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“My life was all working out for me and still I was really hurting. I wasn't sure about anything. I lived a life that, from the outside, was great, but I was constantly doubting whether that's what I wanted. It felt very meaningless. What am I actually doing with my life? And all these questions started popping up in my head but I was very good at pushing them down. But at some point I was so tired of pushing them down. So I decided to take some time off. I thought I was just overworked.” Julie Vandermeulen is a Story Strategist at StoryFlow. She joined an UNPLUG retreat at the moment she decided to say YES to life. In this episode you'll learn about:- The process of leaving the golden cage of success.- Life as an introvert in an extravert world- How a serious broken heart can be a transformative life event in a positive way.- How Julie experienced her retreat,  and the post-retreat dip.- Why falling in love with yourself is a first priority. Hope you enjoy it!x CarlienP.S.: If this episode resonates with you, feel free to share it. Are you an ambitious entrepreneur, business man or woman that wants to get everything out of life?Do you feel you are always busy?Do you sometimes wonder what's really essential?How to be ambitious but in a more sustainable way?Important life questions require time and attention. At Unplug 48 we offer curated personal clarity experiences that will guide you towards more clarity, balance and courage. Our DNA: small groups, unique locations, highly professional guidance.Discover our programs at www.unplug48.com.--------Upcoming events: 29.08 | Reflections (invitation only) 08.09 | Disconnect to Reconnect Day Retreat Belgium (female leaders only) 20.09 – 23.09 | Unplug Retreat France 14.11 – 16.11 | Thrive Retreat Belgium (female leaders only) 29.02 – 03.03 | Transform Retreat Kenya---------Follow us on Linkedin.Follow us on Instragam.

On this next episode of 48 Minutes: Paul Van Oyen, the outgoing CEO of Etex. Etex is a multinational construction materials company with roots in Belgium. Their slogan is “Inspiring Ways of Living”, which intrigues me by the mere fact that it contains the word “inspiring”. Paul and I met each other through the Belgian's 40 Under 40 program, where he interviewed me and caught my attention within the first five minutes of talking to him.I got to know Paul as an atypical and purpose driven CEO with whom I have had the most interesting conversations on leadership, the role of companies in today's society and growth. I thought this was too interesting not to share with more people, therefore I asked if Paul would be willing to be a guest in this podcast series. And he said yes.Enjoy!https://www.unplug48.comAlso find us onInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/unplug48/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carliencavens/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/79ZCOyiBH3XgON5SY85bwM?si=73b41f7ebc4b451eApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/be/podcast/48/id1492858798 Don't forget to subscribe to 48 Minutes for new episodes!The beautiful music in this podcast is "Back to Utopia" by Dirk Brossé and the Brussels Philharmonic. 

In this episode I talk to one of my personal role models Jerry Colonna. Jerry is a world class executive coach and is often referred to as the CEO whisperer. He coaches many Silicon Valley startup CEOs and coached amongst others Brad Feld from the Foundry Group, Chad Dickerson from Etsy and Alexander Ljung from Soundcloud. People would describe Jerry as “the best in the world”, “ a life savior” and “A trojan horse of the best kind”. He is also the co-founder of Reboot, a coaching company that helps individual leaders, teams and organizations to realize their full human potential. Jerry is a highly requested speaker on leadership topics and published his first book in 2019. It's called Reboot - Leadership and the Art of Growing Up. Him and his company, Reboot, have been a role model for me almost from the very start. Which is why I hoped to have a conversation with him, but I had to bear in mind he has a full agenda. Therefore, I am extremely excited and grateful that he accepted my request and is here with me today for a conversation.Enjoy this episode!https://www.unplug48.comAlso find us on Instagram, LinkedIn, YouTube, Spotify and Apple Podcasts: https://linktr.ee/Unplug48Don't forget to subscribe to 48 Minutes for new episodes!

In deze aflevering spreek ik met Lieven Vanlommel, CEO van Foodmaker en StarMeal, twee voedingsbedrijven die gezonde voeding naar de massa brengen. Momenteel zijn ze actief in België, Nederland en Frankrijk, maar de ambitie reikt veel verder. Lieven zijn droom is om een wereldleider te worden in gezonde maaltijden en meer te verkopen dan McDonalds in alle landen waar hij actief is. Lieven won verschillende prijzen voor zijn ondernemingszin, waaronder de Mercuriusprijs met Foodmaker, een prijs die wordt gegeven aan bedrijven die innovatie in hun sector stimuleren.Veel luisterplezier!https://www.unplug48.comVind ons ook op Instagram, LinkedIn, YouTube, Spotify en Apple Podcasts: https://linktr.ee/Unplug48Vergeet je niet te abonneren op 48 Minutes voor nieuwe episodes!

In today's episode I talk to Steven Peleman, who is a sustainability and circular economy expert that recently left his golden cage at Deloitte and started his own venture, Triple Helix. With Triple Helix, Steven plans on building circular and sustainable material companies and using his knowledge and skills to make the world a better place. Earlier this morning he got the newspaper front page with the announcement of the opening of SurePure, a recycling company for polyurethane.I got to know Steven as a participant in my Unplug 48 retreats and must say I find it very hard to put a label on him. He seems to be the ultimate jack of all trades to me. I am intrigued and would like to take this opportunity to get a deeper understanding of who Steven Peleman is, what drives him and what we should remember about him.https://www.unplug48.comAlso find us on Instagram, LinkedIn, YouTube, Spotify and Apple Podcasts: https://linktr.ee/Unplug48Don't forget to subscribe to 48 Minutes for new episodes!

In deze aflevering van 48 minutes spreek ik met Jeroen Wils, criminoloog, journalist en ondernemer. Hij was één van de sleutelfiguren in de verslaggeving rond de Dutroux affaire in de jaren 90 en was nadien onder andere chef nieuws bij VTM. Hij had ook zijn eigen misdaad documentaireprogrammas. Nadien ontwaakte de ondernemer in hem en richtte hij meerdere PR en communicatiebedrijven op die later werden overgenomen door MediaFin. Recent nam Jeroen de beslissing om een professionele break te doen en te herbronnen, iets waar ik uiteraard getriggerd door ben en meer over wilde weten.https://www.unplug48.comAlso find us onInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/unplug48/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/48ho...Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4mSX7oQ...Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/be/podcast...Don't forget to subscribe to 48 Minutes for new episodes!

In this episode I have the honor to talk to Bart De Smet, who is the former CEO and current Chairman of Ageas Group, an International insurance group, active in 14 countries and employing around 45000 employees worldwide. Bart holds several board positions in Belgium and abroad and is the president of the Federation of Belgian Entreprises. Before joining Ageas he was active in Fortis, ING, Nationale Suisse and Argenta. In 2016 he got the prestigious Manager of the year Award by the business magazine Trends. He was rewarded for transforming Fortis’ insurance activities into the strong international insurance group Ageas. He is known for being a coach, bringing out the best in his people.

Today in 48 minutes, Elke Geraerts. Elke is the CEO and founder of Better Minds at Work, a company that focuses on the human capital of their clients. What’s unique about them is that they translate scientific research into a day-to-day approach to promote employee wellbeing and growth. If a company takes care of their employees, the rest will follow. We talked to Elke about her passion for interior design, the Covid-19 crisis and the vaccination strategy as well as some of her thoughts and practices while raising her kids.

In this episode of 48 Minutes I speak to the one and only José Woldring. José is the founder and CEO of The Media Nanny and SEG Artists. The Media Nanny offers global PR services for artists, events and brands in the entertainment industry and beyond. She has worked with DJs like Martin Garrix, David Guetta, Gianluca Vacchi and our very own Charlotte De Witte.Last year The Media Nanny joined forces with Sport Entertainment Group, a talent management company that represents hundreds of talented clients worldwide. As a result of the merger, a new SEG division will come into being in addition to the existing branches Football, Cycling and Esports: SEG Artists. Besides this, she is also brand ambassador for Porsche. I speak to José about how she is dealing with the COVID crisis, the importance of following your own path and the things she does to stay centered. Behind this young, successful woman there is a kind, down to earth and inspiring leader.Listen to her wise words on YouTube, Spotify or Apple Podcasts.

In deze aflevering van 48 Minutes praat ik met Joost Callens. Joost is de CEO en voorzitter van het bouwbedrijf Durabrik. Daarnaast zetelt hij in de raden van bestuur van Mixx, Alides, Mathieu Gijbels, Itam, en Vlaamse Confederatie Bouw, en is hij voorzitter van de raad van bestuur van Konekt. Hij is stichter van het sociaal impact fonds Toontjeshuis, geïnspireerd op zijn zoon Toontje, waarmee hij een eigen thuis wil creëren voor voor volwassenen met een beperking. Tot slot is hij ook medeoprichter van Futureproof Leadership, een leiderschapsprogramma dat hij samen met Bjorn Prins en Veerle Dobbelaere ontwikkelde. Het mag duidelijk wezen dan Joost geen doorsnee CEO is. Zo nam hij in 2010 deel aan een noordpoolexpeditie met Dixie Dancercoer en liet hij naar aanleiding van zijn 50ste verjaardag, 90 dagen lang zijn bedrijf achter om de Camino naar Santiago de Compostella te wandelen. Daar kwam hij naar eigen zeggen “tot zijn kern”. Joost heeft ook een uitgesproken mening over leiderschap, welke hij neerpende in twee boeken “De kwetsbare leider” en “De zoekende leider”.Ik leerde Joost enkele jaren geleden kennen als een hele warme en zachte man, niet meteen wat je zou verwachten van een CEO van een bouwbedrijf. Zoals hij in zijn tweede boek schrijft, is hij een zoekende leider en ik hoop dat hij ons vandaag een inkijk kan geven in de lessen die deze zoektocht hem al geleerd heeft.

Welcome to another episode of 48 Minutes.Our guest today is Dirk Brossé.Dirk is an internationally acclaimed conductor and award-winning composer. He is currently Music Director of the Chamber Orchestra of Philadelphia, and Music Director of the Ghent Film Festival and has guest-conducted many top orchestras, all over the world, among them, the London Symphony Orchestra, Vancouver Opera, Hong Kong Chinese Orchestra and I could go on like this for a little while. Besides this Dirk has produced over 400 works including concerti, oratorios, lieder, chamber music and symphonic pieces, as well as scores for cinema, television and stage. Because that was not enough, he is also professor of composition and conducting at the School of Arts / Royal Conservatory of Music in his hometown Ghent, Belgium. The first time I saw Dirk live was at Tomorrowland last year where I was absolutely blown away by the energy that radiated from Metropole Academy Orchestra bringing his versions of some all time famous EDM music. Despite my music and piano classes as a child and young adolescent, I consider myself as an absolute dummy in classical music. So I was very curious to see where this interview would take us. One thing was sure: I had more questions than we had time.The music used in this podcast is composed by Dirk himself and is called "Back to Utopia".

Welcome to another episode of 48 Minutes.Our guest today is Ronnie Leten. Ronnie is the former CEO of the global industrial player Atlas Copco with headquarters in Stockholm, but active in more than 180 countries and employing almost 40000 employees . He has also served as chairman of the board at Electrolux. Today Ronnie is a board member at SFK Group and serves as the Chairman at Epiroc, Piab and Ericsson, all Swedish companies. In 2013 he received the prestigious Trends “Manager of the year” award.Together with sports coach Paul Van den Bossche, he wrote the book “Act like a coach” in which they give tips for better leadership. Ronnie currently lives in Mol, which is close to where I grew up as a child and he turns out to be exactly as old as my dad. Besides that, I actually don’t know Ronnie, but I am curious to understand how a Belgian manages to win the hearts of the Swedes as well as his take on leadership.

Welcome to another episode of 48 Minutes.Our guest today is Marc Bogaerts.Marc is an international choreographer with over 800 productions on his counter. He has designed choreographies for amongst others Cirque du Soleil, the Royal Ballet of Flanders, Hooverphonic, Pragha Khan, Washington Ballet and the Royal Danish Ballet. Besides that, he has countless of other artistic projects ongoing which makes him, in my opinion, an artist ‘pur sang’. I recently got to know Marc via a friend, and I must say he is definitely the most intriguing person I met in 2020. Which didn’t leave any other choice than to invite him for this podcast. Marc spends his time between Berlin and Antwerp, so I'm very happy he could make some time for us. Let's experience a glimpse of the wonderful world of Marc Bogaerts!

Welcome to another episode of 48 Minutes. Today we are honored to introduce to you someone with a truly unique and inspiring life story. Olivier Onghena - ‘T Hooft, a noble purpose entrepreneur and the founder of the Global Inspiration & Noble Purpose Institute and Wisdom Encounter. He has dedicated his life to inspire CEOs, entrepreneurs and political leaders around the globe to serve the interest of something special, something that transcends their own self. I know Olivier from Young Leaders - Inspiring Mentors, a mentoring program also founded by him, which I took part in last year and in which he inspired me from the first second with his words of wisdom. Recently Olivier launched his first book, ‘The Book of Noble Purpose’, in which he envisions a bright and more sustainable future driven by a higher level of consciousness on an individual, organisational and societal level.Because of Olivier's dedication to purpose and meaning, I realized he could not be left out of our 48 Minute podcast collection, because I believe he will inspire many of you.

In this episode I talk to David Dessers, the Founder of Cresco Law Firm and author of the book “Innovate, Collaborate, Grow”. Cresco is an innovative, entrepreneurial and somewhat pioneering firm in the Belgian legal market. They mainly serve entrepreneurs, companies and investors.I talked with David about his book, his routines to stay balanced and growth.https://www.unplug48.comAlso find us onInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/unplug48/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/48ho...Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4mSX7oQ...Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/be/podcast...YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYcU6dqyWmQGkdbQfDe9ieQDon't forget to subscribe to 48 Minutes for new episodes!

Our guest today is Theo Vaes, one of the most inspiring social entrepreneurs I know. Theo is the founder and driving force behind ArmenTekort, which is a social organisation in my hometown, Antwerp, that focuses on multi-generational poverty. They believe self-esteem is key in solving this problem and therefore they launched a buddy network in which underprivileged people are matched with privileged people. The idea is that these buddy couples regularly spend time together, listening to each other’s stories and have fun which could slowly lead to a higher self-esteem. The privileged buddies are trained by professional trainers in order to be fully prepared for this experience. I know Armentekort because I have been a buddy myself for the past 2 years and I can say it has been one of the most enriching experiences in my life. https://www.unplug48.comAlso find us onInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/unplug48/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/48ho...Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4mSX7oQ...Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/be/podcast...YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYcU6dqyWmQGkdbQfDe9ieQ Don't forget to subscribe to 48 Minutes for new episodes.

A couple of weeks ago, we had the opportunity to interview Pablo Pantaleoni.Pablo is the Vice President of Global Strategy & New Ventures at Headspace, the meditation app which has been downloaded more than 62 million times in 190 different countries. He has achieved many great things. Before he joined Headspace, he was the Senior Director of Health & Venture Design at IDEO. IDEO is a global design & innovation company, which is committed to creating positive impact. Besides this, he is also an entrepreneur. Pablo is the co-founder of Medtep, a digital health company which aims to support people in making lasting behavioural changes. It does this through its app, where doctors can make and share plans with patients. It helps the doctors keep track of whether their patients are actually doing what is expected. Because of his positive experience as an entrepreneur, he guides other start-ups in becoming successful.Last but not least, Pablo was ranked in the Forbes ’30 under 30’ list in healthcare. An amazing achievement.https://www.unplug48.comAlso find us onInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/unplug48/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/48ho...Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4mSX7oQ...Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/be/podcast...Don't forget to subscribe to 48 Minutes for new episodes.

Sihame El Kaouakibi is thé power house of the Belgian political scene. Last year she was elected as member of the Flemish Parliament for the liberal party. Before going into politics she was mainly known as a social entrepreneur. At age 22 she founded Let’s Go Urban, a social organisation that organises art and street culture workshops for urban youngsters in order to help them thrive in life. She is also the driving force behind WannaWork, WannaTaste, WannaChange, JJ House and WeLoveBXL, all initiatives that support a more inclusive society. For her work Sihame received numerous awards and nominations. She wrote a book, #Believe in which she promotes empowerment of urban youngsters.

Pierre Marcolini is the founder of the so-called Maison Pierre Marcolini. At the age of 14 already Pierre knew he wanted to become a chocolatier and started his education. He did several internships with famous chocolate houses like Wittamer and Fouchon. In 1995 he won the World Patisserie Championship in Lyon after which he opened his first atelier in Belgium. 25 years later The Maison has 40 stores worldwide, of which more than 10 in Asia. Pierre Marcolini is known for the way he revolutionised the chocolate industry, with innovative tastes, new packaging and the way he integrated the entire chocolate making process from “bean to bar”.

Raissa de Haas is one of the Dutch twin sisters behind Double Dutch, the immensely popular premium mixer brand. Both sisters studied economics at the University of Antwerp where they regularly threw parties for friends. Frustrated by the low excitement level and quality of the usual mixers that go along with spirits like Gin, they started making their own mixers. A hobby became a passion and a few years later after graduating at UCL in London, they launched Double Dutch, a company that makes premium mixers and tonics. In 2015 they won Virgin’s Foodpreneur award. And in 2019 the twins were recognised on Forbes’ 30 Under 30 Europe list. In the meantime Double Dutch sells over 1m bottles per month, and are available in 26 countries. Earlier this year the Dutch beer giant Heineken took a minority share in the sisters’ company.

In this podcast I talk to Pierre Gurdjian. I know Pierre from my previous job at McKinsey, where at that time he was the Managing Partner of the Belgium - Luxembourg offices. He also held international responsibility for McKinsey’s Human Capital practice in EMEA. In this capacity, he served his clients on building personal and institutional leadership capabilities. He was regularly involved in counseling CEO's and Chairpersons on governance matters and issues of cultural change and effectiveness of top teams. He was an active senior faculty member of several high profile client leadership forums Today he is the President of the Board of Directors of the Université Libre de Bruxelles (ULB), one of Belgium’s largest universities, he is the Vice Chairman of the Board of Directors at UCB, a listed global biopharma company leader in immunology and neurology; a Member of the Board of Directors at Lhoist, a family-owned company world leader in limestone and dolomite production; and a Member of the Board of Governors of the United World College (UWC) in Dilijan in Armenia. Pierre is also Philanthropy and Strategy Partner of the IDeA Foundation, a global philanthropic organization that seeks to establish innovative and transformative ways to change the world through territory development, innovation in education and promotion of humanitarian values.Pierre has a passion for human capital development and co-created the “Roots & Wings” platform that helps equip talented individuals who are on a journey to making the world better. He is also often invited to speak about leadership building, with a focus on wisdom, purpose, and legacy.He is a member of the Young Presidents Organization (YPO), and past President of YouthStart Belgium and the Harvard Club of Belgium. He teaches a graduate course on ‘The CEO Perspective’ at the Solvay Business School (ULB) and is involved in numerous humanitarian, philanthropic, and entrepreneurial initiatives in Europe.Pierre holds a degree in Commercial Engineering from the Free University of Brussels (VUB) and a MBA from Harvard Business School.

Today we have the honour to have John Porter, the CEO of Telenet, as our guest. John has an incredible track record in the media & telco industry spanning more than 3 decades. In 1994 he was recruited to start Austar, a subscription television business in Australia. This turned out to become one of his most remarkable accomplishments as he led the company from a start-up to a $2.5b public company. When Austar got acquired by Foxtel in 2012, John took a gap year, before joining Telenet in 2013.

Olivier Vanden Eynde is one of Belgian's most inspiring people in the sustainability scene. He was a Director at Deloitte in Sustainability Services but is foremost also the founder and managing director of Close The Gap. What started as a student project has evolved to an international social enterprise that aims to bridge the digital divide by offering high-quality, pre-owned computers donated by European companies to educational, medical and social projects in developing and emerging countries. Today, CTG has donated over 1M computers with over 3 million users worldwide. Last year Olivier and his family moved to Kenya to launch a computer recycling and manufacturing hub in Nairobi in order to better serve the local market. COVID-19 temporarily brought Olivier back to Belgium, where he is currently active as one of the key figures behind Digital For Youth. This organisation is providing refurbished laptops to children from less wealthy families in order to make sure they can continue lessons in times when homeschooling becomes the norm.

In this eight’ episode we have a very special guest in our podcast. His name is Mo Gawdat. After running Google’s offices in more than 50 countries, Mo served as the Chief Business Officer of Google [x] also known as “The Moonshot Factory”. At Google [x] he contributed significantly to the operation model, that is now considered as the golden standard in technology innovation around the world. But when in 2014 his 21 year old son Ali died during a routine surgery, things changed. 17 days after his death, Mo started writing about happiness, as a tribute to his beloved son, who was his happiness idol. The result was Solve For Happy, which became an international bestseller translated in 28 languages. Mo left Google in February 2018 to focus entirely on his new personal moonshot: #onebillionhappy. His dream was to start a global pandemic of joy, and spread his son’s message by doing so.

In this episode we interview Roland Slot, one of our absolute role models. Roland is the founder of Aberkyn, a leadership development and coaching company which he founded with and recently sold to McKinsey & Co. Roland started his career at Shell with the goal of being successful (and make a lot of money), then got to the insight that he was not on his path. He started a spiritual path of self-development in 2001 and participated in a 9-day personal development trek through the African bush which changed his life. It was after this experience that he decided to found Aberkyn. Now, after having sold his shares it is time for a new, and huge, mission. He wants to introduce servant ownership into our society and disrupt our economic model.

Today we have one Belgium's youngest CEOs in our podcast. He is an entrepreneur and innovator who has been recognized as one of Belgium’s next generation business leaders. His career trajectory is quite out of the ordinary. He studied hospitality management to then join Delhaize and become the youngest store manager ever at the age of 22. He then jumped into the world of logistics, taking on the role of South-East Asia Manager for Ahlers Group at the age of just 25. At 28 he co-founded e-commerce start-up Parcify, a parcel delivery platform, which was subsequently acquired by Bpost, where he stayed until December as Vice President of Bpost’s innovation incubator the FutureLab. Since January Patrick Leysen is the CEO of Xylos and Bagaar, a next generation IT service company with 250 talented experts.

Sebastien Bellin is a Brazilian-Belgian former professional basketball player who played in the top European leagues for over 15 years. On 22 March 2016, he got severely injured in the Brussels Airport terrorist bombings, where he almost lost both legs and near to 50% of his total blood volume. This accident left him unable to walk let alone continue his basketball career. His positive attitude towards life made him recover remarkably fast. Today Sebastien is training to run the iconic Ironman of Hawaii, despite his still reduced mobility. He pivoted from being a professional basketbal player to being an inspirator to many. He launched Team Bellin, an innovative community and platform whose mission is to create a working blueprint for people to overcome their handicap(s). In these days where people around the world are faced with the Corona enemy, with a feeling of anxiety and loss of control there a few people better placed to give advice on how we can all keep focus in the midst of distraction. Nobody better than someone who came face to face with death and lost everything that defined his career in a flash of light. Next to this, he is also just a really cool human.

Today we are in day 4 of the Corona lockdown and for that reason we are experimenting with remote podcast technology. It is a bit unfortunate because our guest, Jamie Anderson, has a contagious positive energy. Jamie is a professor of strategy who has taught at Antwerp Management School, INSEAD, London Business School, the University of Melbourne, etc. He is also a public speaker who has delivered 4 Ted Talks. His research is focused on the interconnectivity between creativity, innovation, leadership and corporate transformation.

In this edition we interview Louis Jonckheere, co-founder and CPO of one of the hottest global start-ups. Showpad is a content management system that helps retail businesses bring all their marketing and sales content at one location. They grew to over 500 employees in less than 10 years, serve more than 1,000 customers in 50 countries and have offices in London, Munich, San Francisco, Portland, and Wroclaw.

Our first guest at the 48' podcast is An Claes, global VP of Supply Chain Planning in the Consumer Health division of Johnson and Johnson. Consumer Health is a $14B division of Johnson & Johnson, focused on over the counter medicine, skin health and other essential products, touching 1.2B people annually. An participated in a 48HoursUnplug leadership retreat in the Dominican Republic. She was so enthusiastic that she took an advisory role at 48HoursUnplug. We call her the 48HU 'godmother". The interview is conducted by Jennifer Elliot, who recently joined the team to build a stronger Unplug 48 (more news soon).

Because we believe in “leading by example”, we started our 48 minutes podcast with our Unplug48 founder Carlien Cavens. A few years ago, she had the guts to leave the save and prestigious path at McKinsey to help leaders grow. With promising results. The interview is conducted by Jennifer Elliot, who recently joined the team to build a stronger Unplug 48 (more news soon).