Spiritual Misfits Podcast

Andrew Cox is a Filipino-Australian poet, performer, and the facilitator of Canberra Poetry Slam. In this conversation, we explore how poetry spaces can function as alternative spiritual communities — places of transcendence, vulnerability, and belonging outside traditional religious frameworks.Andrew shares his journey from earnest young performer to community curator, wrestling with questions of colonial identity, the tension between certainty and conviction, and what it means to create spaces that are genuinely safe while still allowing for healthy challenge and growth.Connect with Andrew: https://andrewcoxpoetry.com.au/https://www.instagram.com/andrewcoxpoetryhttps://www.instagram.com/canberraslamWant to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

Justine Toh is a Senior Research Fellow at the Centre for Public Christianity (CPX) and a writer whose work appears regularly in The Guardian. In this conversation, Will and Justine explore the crisis of attention in our digital age — what we lose when our attention is fragmented, what it costs to reclaim it, and if the concept of 'a hidden life' might help us. This conversation doesn't offer simple answers, but genuine wrestling with how to live consciously within the systems we're part of.Articles referenced:Justine Toh, "As the year begins, don't look away from the headlines, look better and deeper" — The GuardianJustine Toh, "A hidden life in the era of social media can still change history, as the story of Jesus shows" — The GuardianJustine Toh, "The world is burning. Who can convince the comfortable classes of the radical sacrifices needed?" — The GuardianBooks referenced:Johann Hari, Stolen FocusOliver Burkeman, Four Thousand WeeksJonathan Haidt, The Anxious GenerationJustine Toh, Achievement AddictionWant to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

What if the beliefs you were taught don't all have to stand or fall together? James McGrath, a New Testament scholar who went through his own faith reconstruction, joins Will to talk about what comes after deconstruction. Using the metaphor of DIY home renovation, James explores how we can take ownership of rebuilding our worldview without guilt - recognising that even the most conservative Christians are already "picking and choosing," doing it thoughtfully is what matters. We discuss the time machine thought experiment that revealed what's actually load-bearing in James' faith, why certainty and conviction are fundamentally different things, and how early Christian apologists actually sought to integrate the best of secular philosophy rather than argue against it. James makes the case that the most basic question about God — does ultimate reality exist? — is actually less debatable than we think, freeing us to focus on the more important questions about attributes, meaning, and how we live.Order James's book: Beyond Deconstruction: Building a More Expansive Faith Available February 3, 2026 https://eerdmans.com/9780802884596/beyond-deconstruction/Connect with James: Blog: Religion Prof (patheos.com/blogs/religionprof) X/Twitter: @ReligionProf Instagram: @jamesfmcgrath TikTok: @ReligionProfWant to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

Mitch and Will hang out with a cuppa in Mitch's lounge room and discuss the state of the world. They talk about raising kids in progressive faith communities, Australia's social media ban for under-16s, and why it's so hard to build thick community when everyone wants the benefits of belonging without the commitment. They wrestle with whether their kids are learning to intuit God or just vibing with religious practice, and Mitch shares what 13 years off social media has done to his tolerance for difference. Like all Pub Theology episodes, it's loose, it's free-form and Mitch  brings up universalism at least once. Settle in with your drink of choice and join us in Mitch's lounge room.Want to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

What comes after faith deconstruction? Tiffany Yecke Brooks joins Will to talk about "second-time-around spirituality" — the beautiful, uncertain space of rebuilding after everything falls apart. Drawing on the final image from Dante's Inferno, Tiffany explores what it means to emerge from hell and 'rebehold the stars'. Tiffany and Will discuss why our understanding of God is only as big as our language for God, how to develop a unique spiritual lexicon that fits your experience, and moving from cynicism to wonder without losing discernment. Tiffany shares practical exercises from the book including body-mapping emotions and church words, reimagining spiritual practices and evaluating faith communities by asking "what story is this church telling?" Pre-order Tiffany's book: To Rebehold the Stars: Reimagining Faith and Formation After Deconstruction Available March 30, 2026 https://eerdmans.com/9780802884367/to-rebehold-the-stars/Tiffany's Website: https://www.tiffanyyeckebrooks.com/Tiffany's Substack: The Leros ProjectWant to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

Amar D. Peterman joins Will to discuss his forthcoming book Becoming Neighbors: The Common Good Made Local — a constructive vision for how Christians might practice radical neighbour love in a world that often rewards self-sufficiency and tribalism.Born in India and raised between a Polish Catholic neighborhood and a white evangelical megachurch in Wisconsin, Amar knows what it's like to be a spiritual misfit. Now a PhD student at the University of Chicago and former assistant director of civic networks at Interfaith America, he's asking Christians a simple but radical question: What if we actually came to the table and loved our neighbours?"What will we be to each other if the world doesn't end? When we believe our entire future depends on the outcome of an election or policy, we'll justify almost anything. But if we live knowing we'll still be neighbors tomorrow, it changes how we show up today."Resources:- Becoming Neighbors: The Common Good Made Local by Amar D. Peterman (Eerdmans, March 2026)Amar's Substack: This Common Lifehttps://www.instagram.com/amarpetermanWant to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

Simon Buckingham-Shum is Professor of Learning Informatics and Director of the Connected Intelligence Centre at the University of Technology Sydney. Learn more: https://Simon.BuckinghamShum.netAbundant Intelligences (Abundant-Intelligences.net): Indigenous knowledge systems provide a way to rebuild AI's epistemological foundations - transforming tools that currently reinforce colonial practices of extraction and exclusion into engines of abundance that enable us to care better for ourselves, our communities, and our world.Vanessa de Oliveira Andreotti Brazilian/Canadian educator and researcher whose work invites a reckoning with the ontological assumptions driving systemic harm and extinction-level thinking. Author of the widely acclaimed "Hospicing Modernity" (2021) and more recent "Outgrowing Modernity" (2025). She has turned this scholarship to reframe AI within an ecological, relational ontology, aligned with many Indigenous knowledge systems. See Burnout From Humans (2024) and MetaRelational.AI.In the podcast, Simon drew the parallel between the disposition that many of us in the Spiritual Misfits community bring to life's questions and faith dilemmas, and the “meta-relational” disposition that Andreotti's work calls us to bring to our planetary predicament, and AI specifically: "Meta-relationality is not a theory, but a practice of becoming-with. Of attuning to the fields we nest and are nested in. Of noticing the codes and the stories we carry, the systems we uphold, and the possibilities we've exiled. Of learning to hold space for complexity, plurality, tension, paradoxes and indeterminacy without turning away, throwing up, throwing a tantrum or throwing in the towel." https://metarelationaltech.ca/ Chatbots to Try:Qreframer: Surfaces hidden assumptions behind your question and invites you to explore these, which may lead you to reframe your questionCoLearn: Walks you through guided conversation about anything you're learning, plus reflection on the quality of the conversationACI Designer: For challenges or ideas your group/organization is wrestling with - walks you through structured problem framing and solution exploration with emphasis on collective intelligenceAidenWant to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

Carolyn Meers offers a contemplative journey through the mystery of light across traditions, through time, into prayer. This episode includes a guided practice of holding yourself and others in the light of dawn, midday, and twilight.At the end Caro reads Jan Richardson's blessing 'How the light comes'.Want to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

Christmas can be wonderful...and complicated. Especially when your beliefs have shifted and you're heading into family gatherings or other contexts where not everyone understands or agrees with where you're at now. In this conversation, Will sits down with pastor and spiritual director Carolyn Meers and therapist Linda Pesavento to explore why Christmas amplifies these tensions, how to navigate relational minefields with integrity, and what it looks like to create new meaning while honouring what remains beautiful from your past.Whether you're facing judgment from family, translating yourself to preserve relationships, or trying to figure out what Christmas means when the old story doesn't fit anymore, this episode offers practical wisdom, honest stories, and permission to keep yourself safe at this time of year.Want to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

Anne Lanyon joins Will to discuss her work with the Faith Ecology Network (FEN), an interfaith network of people bridging conversations between science and religion. Anne shares about her formative years growing up as an Irish Catholic in rural Victoria, the work she has done for many decades at the intersection of peace, ecology and justice, and the way she hears the earth speaking a prophetic message we all need to heed. Anne and Will explore the powerful and underestimated role of wonder, and the role it can play in science, spirituality and community. Learn more about the Faith Ecology Network: https://www.fen.org.auExplore the Ten Ways to Care for Biodiversity here: https://www.tenwaysbiodiversity.orgWant to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

We're living through wild times. In this episode I'm sharing how I'm holding anxiety about various AI possibilities within the season of Advent and its invitation.I talk about attachment hacking, cognitive atrophy, and the existential questions around artificial general intelligence. But more than that, I'm trying to practice what it means to face reality with courage while staying grounded in hope, embodiment, and the ever-coming Christ.The second half is a guided contemplative practice. An invitation to breathe, to be present in your body, and to bring your concerns to the divine one.The episode closes with "Breath," a track I created a while ago with Jon Reichardt that seems fitting here.Diary of a CEO episode mentioned with Tristan Harris: https://youtu.be/BFU1OCkhBwo?si=fOTYaQowSNMLg2Cm Want to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

Mike Hardie joins Will to share about his winding journey through various denominations and changes in faith, leading him to where he is today: helping establish a new community of faith called Oasis, part of the Uniting Church in Sydney. Mike and Will discuss how to create spaces that honour mystery alongside conviction, structure and freedom, holding space for children developing their understanding of God as well as people who have had their frameworks come undone. Learn more about Oasis, a new (misfit friendly) community of faith at https://www.oc.org.auWant to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

Mikenzie Ling joins Will to explore three crucial tensions for our times:Can we be locally grounded with a global mindset?Can we stay physically embodied in an increasingly digital age?Can we be both ancient and progressive?A conversation that will spark your thinking and invite you into deeper listening.Will mentions the work of Vanessa Andreotti: Hospicing Modernity https://decolonialfutures.net/hospicingmodernity/and 'Burn out from Humans'https://burnoutfromhumans.net/Want to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

What do you do when you realise you haven't prayed in months, and you haven't missed it? Sally Douglas joins Will to explore what it means to 'rewild' prayer: moving beyond formulas, gendered God-language, and the Zeus-like deity many of us inherited. A conversation about trinitarian prayer, holy demanding, and finding your way back to the real when your ability to pray feels dead.Get Sally's new book, ‘Rewilding Prayer' here: https://www.sallydouglas.net/rewilding-prayerWant to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

Mitch Forbes joins Will for another Pub Theology chat. They discuss topics like Christian indignation at Halloween, the existence of evil, thoughts about death, and questions about authenticity, performance and the essential nature of human beings.The Substack article Mitch and Will discuss regarding Authenticity: https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/p/against-authenticity?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=qtmh6&triedRedirect=trueWant to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

Biblical scholar Michelle Eastwood joins Will Small to discuss her journey from growing up Lutheran, journeying through multiple denominations and shifting in the way she engages the biblical text. Drawing from her PhD research on Psalm 71 and aging women, Michelle advocates for reading the Bible as a "flawed document" that can still inspire faith, without needing to explain away its difficult passages. For anyone who still wants to read the Bible, while acknowledging its violent and troubling nature, this is a great conversation.Want to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

Rev. Samuel Dow joins Will Small to share how he found his calling at the intersection of faith and ecology through Baroona Farm, an urban farm in Brisbane that grows food with and for refugees and asylum seekers. Will and Samuel discuss eco-theology, links between agriculture and spirituality and how to build more gentle and sustainable communities.Follow Baroona Farm on social media: @baroonafarmWant to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

Content Warning: This episode contains detailed discussion of suicidal ideation, intrusive thoughts, religious trauma, and mental health crisis. If you're struggling, please reach out to Lifeline (13 11 14) or Beyond Blue (1300 22 4636).Jon Reichardt is an ARIA-nominated music producer who's worked with some of Australia's biggest hip hop artists: Hilltop Hoods, Bliss n Eso, 360. But this conversation delves into the deeper struggles Jon has faced in the past, at the intersection of mental ill-health and toxic theology.  Jon shares about some of the darkest chapters he's faced and how he emerged from them with a more beautiful and healing conception of God. At the end of the episode Will and Jon share a brand new track they've been working on as part of a mental health campaign: Gravity & Grace. A stirring combination of spoken word poetry and atmospheric music, the track is a perfect way to conclude the conversation, acknowledging the weight of life (gravity) while holding space for wonder and healing (grace).  Want to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

This week we're revisiting a conversation from December 2023 with Sara M. Saleh - Palestinian-Australian human rights lawyer, poet, and activist.As we mark two years since the beginning of Israel's devastating assault on Gaza, and as news breaks of a fragile ceasefire agreement, Sara's voice offers crucial context and perspective that remains deeply relevant.In this conversation, Sara helps us understand the long history of settler colonialism in Palestine, disentangles anti-Zionism from antisemitism, and articulates a vision of liberation that makes room for everyone. She speaks with both fierce conviction and generous wisdom about what it means to show up consistently for justice, even when hope feels scarce.Sara reminds us that the systems causing harm are human-made, which means they can be dismantled and remade. She calls us toward imagination, discipline, and unconditional solidarity - fighting for a world where everyone can live in dignity and freedom.About Sara M Saleh: Sara is a human rights lawyer, community organiser, and writer - the daughter of migrants from Palestine, Egypt, and Lebanon. She was the first poet to win both the Australian Book Review's Peter Porter Poetry Prize and the Overland Judith Wright Poetry Prize (2020 and 2021). Her debut novel, Songs for the Dead and the Living, is available now. Sara's book: Songs for the Dead and the Living  Want to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

How do you address God when you pray? Has the way you name the divine changed over your lifetime?In this contemplative episode, Carolyn Meers invites us to slow down and explore the mystery of naming God. Drawing from biblical stories like Hagar's encounter with "the God who sees" and Moses' conversation with the burning bush, we reflect on how our names for God reveal as much about us as they do about the divine.This episode includes gentle questions for reflection, periods of space for contemplation, and a guided practice of "naming and un-naming" that might help you explore both familiar and unfamiliar ways of addressing God. It's an invitation to embrace both the intimacy of naming God and the beautiful mystery of the unnameable.Want to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

Brian Recker used to be an evangelical pastor. Growing up fundamentalist, hell was always core to his experience of Christianity. But when he started questioning the doctrine as a pastor, it unraveled more than he expected. His new book 'Hell Bent' argues that fear of hell fundamentally distorts Christian spirituality, disconnecting us from God, ourselves, and others. We discuss the power of hell-based religion, how it shapes our politics and relationships, and what a love-centred spirituality looks like when you're no longer afraid of punishment.Check out the book, 'Hell Bent' here.Connect with more of Brian's work here. Want to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

Join Mitch and Will at the pub for an unstructured conversation about the recent deaths of James Dobson and Charlie Kirk, the challenge of responding maturely to political violence, and how universalist theology might offer a different way of thinking about these situations.Topics covered:The deaths of James Dobson and Charlie Kirk and the polarised online responsesWhy ‘and' is better than ‘but'The problem with performative social media responses to tragedyHow universalism shapes our view of ideological opponents"Praying for their souls" - what does redemption look like for everyone?Why local, interpersonal conversation often beats online discourseContent note: This is a "thinking out loud" conversation where we work through complex issues in real time rather than offering polished analysis.Want to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

Steff Fenton joins Will to discuss their new book Gender Expansive Faith: How Trans Lives Are Illuminating the Divine, Transforming Feminism, and Ending Christian Patriarchy. The conversation explores Steff's interpretation of Matthew 19 and Jesus's teaching about eunuchs, how trans and gender diverse people offer healing to a world harmed by rigid gender binaries, and practical questions around inclusive spaces in sports and community groups. Steff also shares insights from their time away from church community and what they've learned about the irreplaceable value of collective spiritual practice.About Steff FentonSteff is a trans Christian, ex-pastor, speaker, and writer who has spent years advocating for LGBTIQA+ inclusion in church spaces. Their new book Gender Expansive Faith offers both theological foundation and practical guidance for Christians wanting to welcome and celebrate their transgender loved ones. You can find more about Steff and purchase their book at their website.Purchase & ReviewsYou can buy Gender Expansive Faith directly from Steff's website (https://www.steffenton.co/) or from major book retailers. If you purchase on Amazon, Steff would especially appreciate reviews to help the book reach more readers.Connect with Steffhttps://www.steffenton.co/Want to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

Keith Mascord joins Will to discuss his latest book 'An Honest Faith' after an East Coast tour. A former Sydney Anglican and Moore College lecturer Keith's views have shifted over time in an ongoing commitment to honest philosophical and theological inquiry. Keith now advocates for a radically inclusive and intellectually honest Christianity.Faith remains deeply important to Keith but he insists Christianity must change.In this wide-ranging conversation, Will and Keith explore how philosophy can strengthen rather than threaten faith, why the Bible might be best understood as mythic-epic literature, and what tips the scales toward belief when rational arguments reach their limits.See Keith's books, including 'An Honest Faith' here: https://wipfandstock.com/author/keith-mascord/Want to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

Following last week's collaborative conversation between Spiritual Misfits and On the Way podcast, this episode features the poetry that bookended our special evening at West End Uniting Church in Brisbane, performed by Will Small and Boy Renaissance.Related EpisodesSpiritual Misfits, On the Way (Live from 'Words for Those Who Wander') - The panel conversation from this eventA Non Binary God & a Fluid Faith with Boy Renaissance - Previous conversation with Boy RenaissanceWant to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

A special cross-over podcast episode between Spiritual Misfits and On the Way, recorded at 'Words For Those Who Wander' at West End Uniting Church in Brisbane. In this conversation, Will Small, Dom Fay, Sue Grimmett, and Peter Catt explore what happens when the old spiritual maps stop working and we need to become cartographers for our time.Together they wrestle with profound questions: What if we're all exiles seeking belonging? How do we build community when our frameworks for understanding are themselves lost? And what would we write on 'the map' for those who come after us? Want to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

In this episode, we explore what it means to live faithfully during times of political and social upheaval with systematic theologian from Princeton Theological Seminary Hanna Reichel, author of "For Such a Time as This: An Emergency Devotional."Drawing on lessons from the Confessing Church's resistance to Nazi Germany, Hanna challenges us to move beyond simple answers and moral purity toward what they call "tolerance for complexity." We discuss why tradition can actually fuel progressive resistance, the difference between staying morally pure versus taking responsibility, and how joy becomes an act of resistance.  Get Hanna's new book, 'For Such a Time as This': https://www.eerdmans.com/9781467470575/for-such-a-time-as-this/Want to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

Danny Bryant joins Will to discuss his book Unless a Seed Falls to the Ground: Welcoming the Death of the Whiteness Gospel. Part memoir, part theological critique, Danny's work traces his journey from growing up in a fundamentalist cult to becoming a pastor who now practices what he calls "hospice ministry", allowing cancerous forms of American Christianity to die.In this deeply personal conversation, Danny shares about:Growing up as a "misfit among misfits" in a cult that prided itself on exclusionHow patterns of control and superiority infected even "mainstream" churches he encounteredHis reimagined TULIP framework diagnosing the cancer of white American ChristianityWhy he believes certain forms of faith need to die—not be reformedThe difference between violent destruction and the natural death that leads to new lifeWhat it means to "side with the seeds" in our current momentHow his own motivation for ministry evolved from anger at harm to being grounded in loveWhat St. Mary of Bethany Parish looks like as a "field hospital" for the spiritually woundedDanny draws on voices like James Baldwin, Howard Thurman, Willie James Jennings, and Abraham Joshua Heschel to imagine what might grow after the death of Christianity-as-empire. This is a conversation about grief, hope, and the spacious places that await us when we stop clinging to what needs to die.About Danny Bryant: Danny Bryant is a pastor and priest at St. Mary of Bethany Parish in Nashville, Tennessee, where he also offers spiritual direction. He lives with his wife Rebecca, their four children, and several pets.Want to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

Joyce Tangi is the Culture of Safety Pastor for the Uniting Church NSW & ACT Synod, and she cares deeply about building communities where everyone can thrive.In this conversation, we explore what safety actually looks like beyond policies and procedures, how to navigate power dynamics in faith communities, and why deep listening might be the most radical act we can practice.Want to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

David Gate joins Will Small to discuss his new book "A Rebellion of Care" and what it means to stay tender in a world that often seems to demand hardness.David Gate is a poet, writer, and visual artist who grew up in London and now lives in Asheville, North Carolina. His work centres around care for the individual and the nurture of community, and his Instagram poetry has touched thousands with its accessible wisdom and raw honesty. This conversation explores the poems and essays within David's book as well as the process and thought behind them. Read the Book: "A Rebellion of Care: Poems and Essays" by David GateFollow David: Instagram @davidgatepoet | Website: davidgatepoet.comWant to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

Bradley Jersak is a theologian, author, and Principal of St. Stephen's University. His books including A More Christlike God, A More Christlike Word, and Out of the Embers have helped countless people navigate faith transitions and discover a more expansive understanding of the gospel. This conversation explores some of the pivotal movements in Brad's story as well as his views on things like penal substitutionary atonement, hell and the very character of God. If you've ever struggled with images of a God who seems angry, distant, violent or retributive, this is a conversation for you. Some of Brad's (many) books we mention in this conversation:A More Christlike God: A More Beautiful GospelA More Christlike Word: Reading Scripture the Emmaus WayOut of the Embers: Faith After the Great DeconstructionHer Gates Will Never Be ShutStudy with Brad and the team at St. Stephen's University: https://www.ssu.ca/Want to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

About This Series Over six weeks, we're sharing keynote talks and discussions from the second Future Church Conference, held at the Tram Sheds in Glebe. This gathering brought together church leaders, pastors, and Jesus-followers passionate about creating safer, more inclusive faith communities.Whether you're leading church, leaving church, unsure about the whole thing, or just curious about what the future might hold, these conversations explore what it means to reimagine church for everyone.Conference Posture Future Church Conference invited participants to adopt three key postures:Lean in - Sit with discomfort and ask why certain ideas trigger usListen - Hear vulnerable ideas from speakers and connect with each otherLook forward - Focus on future possibilities rather than past woundsWhat You'll Hear in This Episode: The closing panel discussion of Future Church Conference exploring how the church might move beyond divisive culture wars toward more constructive engagement with complex social issues.About the Panelists: Will Small is joined by Jarrod McKenna (nonviolent activist and Common Grace founder), Josephine Inkpin (transgender priest and activist), and Mikenzie Ling (Wiradjuri woman and First Nations consultant in the Uniting Church of Australia) to discuss why and how the Church ought to transcend Culture War rhetoric and embody a better way forward. Want to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

About This Series Over six weeks, we're sharing keynote talks and discussions from the second Future Church Conference, held at the Tram Sheds in Glebe. This gathering brought together church leaders, pastors, and Jesus-followers passionate about creating safer, more inclusive faith communities.Whether you're leading church, leaving church, unsure about the whole thing, or just curious about what the future might hold, these conversations explore what it means to reimagine church for everyone.Conference Posture Future Church Conference invited participants to adopt three key postures:Lean in - Sit with discomfort and ask why certain ideas trigger usListen - Hear vulnerable ideas from speakers and connect with each otherLook forward - Focus on future possibilities rather than past woundsWhat You'll Hear in This Episode:Josephine Inkpin's keynote on what it means to 'trans' the Church beyond gender alone. A powerful closing poem from Boy RenaissanceAbout the Speaker: Josephine Inkpin is a priest and activist, and a leading voice in Australia for LGBTQ+ inclusion in faith communities committed to a genuinely ecumenical approach. Want to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

About This Series Over six weeks, we're sharing keynote talks and discussions from the second Future Church Conference, held at the Tram Sheds in Glebe. This gathering brought together church leaders, pastors, and Jesus-followers passionate about creating safer, more inclusive faith communities.Whether you're leading church, leaving church, unsure about the whole thing, or just curious about what the future might hold, these conversations explore what it means to reimagine church for everyone.Conference Posture Future Church Conference invited participants to adopt three key postures:Lean in - Sit with discomfort and ask why certain ideas trigger usListen - Hear vulnerable ideas from speakers and connect with each otherLook forward - Focus on future possibilities rather than past woundsWhat You'll Hear: Jarrod McKenna makes the case for nonviolence as central to following Jesus amidst the serious challenges of life on planet earth in our current moment. About the Speaker: Jarrod McKenna is a peace activist, pastor, and founding director of Common Grace. He's a co-host of the Inverse podcast and a pastor at Steeple Church. He challenges the church to embrace Jesus' radical call to nonviolence in a world marked by conflict and division. Listen to more of Jarrod's story on this episode of Spiritual Misfits. Want to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

What might it mean to meet God in the darkness, as well as the light? Carolyn Meers guides us through a contemplative and poetic reflection coinciding with the winter solstice. Want to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

About This Series Over six weeks, we're sharing keynote talks and discussions from the second Future Church Conference, held at the Tram Sheds in Glebe. This gathering brought together church leaders, pastors, and Jesus-followers passionate about creating safer, more inclusive faith communities.Whether you're leading church, leaving church, unsure about the whole thing, or just curious about what the future might hold, these conversations explore what it means to reimagine church for everyone.Conference Posture Future Church Conference invited participants to adopt three key postures:Lean in - Sit with discomfort and ask why certain ideas trigger usListen - Hear vulnerable ideas from speakers and connect with each otherLook forward - Focus on future possibilities rather than past woundsWhat You'll Hear in This Episode: Radhika Sukumar-White explores what it means for the church to actively work against racism and create genuinely diverse communities.About the Speaker: Radhika Sukumar-White is a Minister of the Word at Leichardt Uniting Church, and a friend of the Spiritual Misfits pod! Go back and listen to this earlier episode with her to hear more of Radhika's story and reflections: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1925719/episodes/13938060Want to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

About This Series Over six weeks, we're sharing keynote talks and discussions from the second Future Church Conference, held at the Tram Sheds in Glebe. This gathering brought together church leaders, pastors, and Jesus-followers passionate about creating safer, more inclusive faith communities.Whether you're leading church, leaving church, unsure about the whole thing, or just curious about what the future might hold, these conversations explore what it means to reimagine church for everyone.Conference Posture Future Church Conference invited participants to adopt three key postures:Lean in - Sit with discomfort and ask why certain ideas trigger usListen - Hear vulnerable ideas from speakers and connect with each otherLook forward - Focus on future possibilities rather than past woundsWhat You'll Hear in This Episode: Shane Clifton shares his story and reflections on whether the Church has a future, and what kind it could beAbout the Speaker: Shane Clifton is Associate Professor of Practice in the School of health sciences at the University of Sydney, on the leadership team at the Centre for Disability Research and Policy. Want to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

About This Series Over six weeks, we're sharing keynote talks and discussions from the second Future Church Conference, held at the Tram Sheds in Glebe. This gathering brought together church leaders, pastors, and Jesus-followers passionate about creating safer, more inclusive faith communities.Whether you're leading church, leaving church, unsure about the whole thing, or just curious about what the future might hold, these conversations explore what it means to reimagine church for everyone.Conference Posture Future Church Conference invited participants to adopt three key postures:Lean in - Sit with discomfort and ask why certain ideas trigger usListen - Hear vulnerable ideas from speakers and connect with each otherLook forward - Focus on future possibilities rather than past woundsWhat You'll Hear in This Episode:Opening welcome from Joel Hollier, on behalf of the Future Church teamAcknowledgement of Country from Mikenzie Ling (Wiradjuri woman, Uniting Church First Nations Strategy and Engagement Consultant)Keynote from Gershon Nimbalker exploring the church's historical DNA of caring for the poorAbout the Speaker: Gershon Nimbalker is National Director of Common Grace, a movement of Christians passionate about justice. He traces how caring for the poor was central to church identity throughout history and challenges both conservative and progressive Christians to reclaim this calling.Learn more about Common Grace: https://www.commongrace.org.au/Learn more about Future Church Conference: https://futurechurchcon.com/Want to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

In this episode of Spiritual Misfits, Will Small continues his "Reclaiming the Language" series with Karina Kreminski, exploring whether the word "mission" is still helpful for progressive Christians or too entangled with colonising mindsets. Karina shares her journey of integrating missiology and mysticism. Together they explore how mystical practices might offer a more humble, attentive approach to engaging with the world that transforms both traditional understandings of mission and ourselves.In This EpisodeThe tensions and problematic history associated with the word "mission"Why Karina chooses to "qualify rather than abandon" mission languageThe concept of "mission in reverse" and mutual transformationHow mysticism provides a framework for encountering "that which is beyond" in everyday lifePractical approaches to ordinary mysticism through paying attention and slowing downThe challenges of maintaining spiritual practices in our distraction-filled digital ageHow small, courageous acts might be our path to meaningful change"The one thing that's been consistent is I've always believed in that which is beyond." - Karina Kreminski About Karina KreminskiKarina Kreminski works for Uniting Mission and Education and is the co-founder (along with her husband Armen Gakavian) of At the Edges Publishing, a community dedicated to nurturing emerging Australian writers. She is passionate about Fresh Expressions of church and finding the sacred in everyday life. Karina is currently working on a new book about ordinary mysticism, following her previous work "Urban Spirituality: Embodying God's Mission in the Neighbourhood."Resources Mentioned"How to Do Nothing" - Jenny Odell"Stolen Focus" by Johann HariThe Light Phone - A minimalist phone designed to reduce digital distractionCentring Prayer practice as taught by Thomas KeatingAt the Edges Publishing - https://www.attheedges.com.au/Fresh Expressions - https://www.nswact.uca.org.au/resources/fresh-expressions/Connect with KarinaInstagram: @karinakreminskiSubstack: https://substack.com/@karinakreminskiWant to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

What happens when women speak up about gender inequality in Christian spaces? In this powerful conversation, Dr. Tracy McEwan, Dr. Rosie Clare Shorter, and Dr. Tanya Riches discuss their research on "feminist complaint collectives" across Catholic, Anglican, and Pentecostal traditions. Drawing on Sara Ahmed's work, they explore how women who raise concerns about sexism often "become the problem" in religious institutions, and how forming collectives can create pathways for change. From historical examples to contemporary activism, this episode offers insights for anyone navigating the complex intersection of faith and feminism.Guests:Dr. Tracy McEwan is a theologian and sociologist of religion at the University of Newcastle and co-facilitates the Australian Women Preach podcast.Dr. Rosie Clare Shorter teaches gender studies at the University of Melbourne and is a research fellow at Deakin University.Dr. Tanya Riches is the director of the Master of Transformation and Development degree at Eastern College Australia.Resources mentioned:"Feminist Complaint Collectives and Doorway Disruptions in Australian Christian Traditions" - the research paper discussed in the episodeSara Ahmed's book "Complaint!" and "The Feminist Killjoy Handbook"The Movement for the Ordination of Women (MOW)Australian Women Preach podcastWant to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

In this powerful conversation, Will Small sits down with Andrew Dodd and Scott Higgins from Hamilton Baptist Church following their historic disaffiliation from the NSW/ACT Baptist Association after 99 years of membership (the first time this has happened in the 150+ year history of the Association).After a six-year bureaucratic process, Hamilton Baptist and Canberra Baptist were formally removed from the Association for their affirming stance toward LGBTQ+ people. Andrew and Scott share the painful journey that led to this moment, the flawed process that never allowed for actual biblical discussion, and the surprising hope they've found in what they're calling "Day One" of a new chapter.In this episode:The six-year process that led to the disaffiliation voteHow real relationships with LGBTQ+ Christians transformed their theologyThe irony of a Baptist denomination refusing to discuss biblical interpretationThe powerful speeches Andrew and Scott delivered at the final assemblyThe emerging network of Open Baptists creating new possibilitiesLinks:Open Baptists websitePrevious Spiritual Misfits episodes with Hamilton Baptist (Part 1)Previous Spiritual Misfits episodes with Hamilton Baptist (Part 2)Previous Spiritual Misfits episode about the Open Baptists (with Christine Redwood, Belinda Groves and Nathan Nettleton)Want to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

In this illuminating conversation, Will Small speaks with Jana Holland, founder of Celu Selah Wellness, about the powerful intersection of neuroscience, spirituality, and somatic healing. In this episode:Jana shares her fascinating backstory of traveling as a nomadic folk family band through 26 countries over 12 years, and how this experience shaped her understanding of spiritual connectionThe meaning behind "Celu Selah" - combining words for "heaven/wholeness" and "to pause/rest"How encountering people from different spiritual traditions helped Jana recognize her "spiritual mother tongue" while opening her to the beauty of other spiritual languagesThe science behind heart coherence and how our bodies communicate wisdom beyond what our minds can processUnderstanding polyvagal theory and how our nervous systems are constantly seeking safety and connectionThe groundbreaking research in neurotheology showing how spiritual practices activate specific areas of the brain, offering neuroprotective benefitsThe difference between being "religious but not spiritual" versus having an authentic spiritual practicePractical ways to incorporate embodied spiritual awareness into everyday activitiesHow trauma can disconnect us from our bodies and how somatic practices can help restore wholenessThe concept of "super-regulation" - accessing spiritual awareness through our neurological "docking station"Jana offers a compassionate framework for those who may feel like misfits in traditional religious spaces but still long for authentic spiritual connection. Her integration of cutting-edge neuroscience with contemplative practices provides a path toward wholeness that honors both ancient wisdom and modern understanding.About Jana Holland:Jana Holland is the founder of Celu Selah, a wellness practice dedicated to fostering emotional and spiritual well-being. As a Spiritual Director and Somatic Coach, she has spent two decades exploring the intersection of neuroscience, spirituality, and somatics. Her approach is deeply rooted in the Way of Yeshua while embracing an open, compassionate stance toward diverse spiritual paths. Jana supports individuals in seasons of awakening, transition, disappointment, or grief, providing a space to explore, heal, connect, and rediscover purpose.Connect with Jana:Website: www.celuselah.com Want to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

In this episode of Spiritual Misfits, Will Small interviews Robyn Whitaker, a biblical scholar specialising in the Book of Revelation. They discuss Robyn's journey of faith, her experiences as a spiritual misfit, and the relevance of apocalyptic literature in today's world. The conversation delves into the political implications of Revelation, the nature of divine violence, and the hopeful imagery found in the final chapters of the text. Robyn emphasises the importance of understanding Revelation as a critique of power and injustice, rather than a tool for justifying violence. They also touch on the significance of a hermeneutic of love, the creative engagement of scripture by figures like Jesus and Paul, and the challenges of introducing children to biblical stories in a way that is life-giving and positive. Want to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

In this special Easter episode, Will Small and Mitch Forbes explore the meaning of Jesus' death and resurrection beyond traditional frameworks. They discuss alternative understandings of atonement, René Girard's scapegoat theory, and how the Easter story reveals God's non-violent love rather than divine wrath.Key Topics:Rethinking traditional atonement theoriesThe problem with viewing God as wrathful and violentRené Girard's theories on mimetic desire, rivalry, and scapegoatingHow the cross exposes human violence rather than divine violenceFinding life-giving ways to understand Jesus' death and resurrectionResources Mentioned:James Alison's "Jesus the Forgiving Victim"James Cone's "The Cross and the Lynching Tree"Brian Zahnd's "The Wood Between the Worlds"Thomas Merton's writingsRené Girard's work on mimetic theoryWant to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

 In this thought-provoking episode Will Small welcomes back Karl Hand to explore the often misunderstood concepts of sin and grace. As part of our series examining challenging theological concepts, this conversation offers fresh perspectives on terms that have sometimes been weaponised against marginalised communities.About Karl HandKarl Hand is a pastor with the Metropolitan Community Church and recently began working with the Australian Student Christian Movement, helping to revitalise campus ministry. With his background in theology and experience ministering primarily to LGBTQIA+ communities, Karl brings unique insights to these complex topics.Key Themes ExploredReclaiming the Language of SinKarl discusses how the word "sin" has been traumatic for many, especially in queer communities, where it's been used to shame and exclude. Yet rather than abandoning the term, he suggests reclaiming it—similar to how the word "queer" has been reclaimed—to access its transformative power when properly understood.Beyond "Crime and Punishment"The conversation traces how our understanding of sin has been shaped by Augustinian theology and mistranslations that frame sin as a crime demanding divine punishment. Karl offers alternative frameworks from theologians like Irenaeus, who viewed sin more as an interruption in our journey toward becoming who we're meant to be.Sin as SeparationRather than viewing sin as primarily about rule-breaking, Karl suggests understanding sin as "anything that comes between us and God." This reframing helps us see sin as exile or separation rather than as moral failure requiring punishment.The Relationship Between Sin and GraceKarl shares his personal experience of grace at age 13, describing how the recognition of sin created space for transformation. "If there's nothing wrong with where I'm at now, then I don't feel the need to cling onto grace quite as much," he explains, highlighting how sin and grace work together in our spiritual journey.Collective Sin and RepentanceThe conversation explores how sin operates not just individually but collectively through systems, structures, and intergenerational patterns. Karl points to global political movements and social injustices as evidence of our deep interconnectedness and shared responsibility.Queer Theology's GiftsKarl highlights how queer theology offers valuable perspectives on sin and grace, including the reclamation of pride as a virtue rather than a sin, the importance of hybrid identities, and the power of collective liberation.Recommended Reading:Want to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

In this episode, Will talks with Kevin Sweeney about his new book "The Cosmic Christ and the Concrete Jesus: Mystics, the Black Prophetic Tradition, and Why I'm Still a Christian."Kevin shares how the mystics gave him the Cosmic Christ, while the Black prophetic tradition offered him the Concrete Jesus. Together, these traditions help us embrace both the universal presence of divine love and the urgent call to justice and liberation.Key Topics Covered:The difference between experiencing Christ and just believing in JesusHow the Black prophetic tradition reveals Jesus as both liberator and threat to empireWhy being "safe" in Christ allows us to become "dangerous" to injusticeThe transition from pastoring to hospice chaplaincyWhy unity with Christ transcends religious boundariesThe Cosmic Christ and the Concrete Jesus is out on May 6th. Follow Kevin Sweeney for updates. Connect with Kevin:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kevinsweeneynow/Website: https://www.kevinsweeneynow.com/Want to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

What happens when the word "salvation" drops out of your vocabulary? In this thoughtful conversation, Will Small is joined by Becca De Souza and Carolyn Meers to explore how our understanding of salvation can evolve beyond formulas and altar calls toward something more communal, justice-oriented, and present. Together they wrestle with questions of what we're being saved from, who's doing the saving, and whether salvation can be meaningful for progressive Christians today.We explore:How our early understandings of salvation were often tied to transactional spirituality and individual "soul-saving" Exploring salvation as solidarity rather than rescue"Salvific resources" and our participation in God's work of healing and restorationReimagining salvation as "salvage work" - what can be rescued and repurposed from the shipwrecks of our worldThe connection between personal salvation and collective liberationWant to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

Welcome back to another Pub Theology episode! Will Small reunites with the good Rev Mitch Forbes to revisit a spicy topic: hell and the afterlife. "Is justice in God's realm retributive or restorative? That's the whole question."What We Cover:The three main theological perspectives on hell and the afterlifeWhy Mitch and Will have both embraced Christian universalismHow our understanding of justice shapes our view of the afterlifeThe philosophical problems with eternal conscious tormentWhy psychological continuity matters in any vision of heavenWant to hear Mitch and Will's earlier conversations about hell from the podcast backlog?Part 1: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1925719/episodes/10513489Part 2: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1925719/episodes/10598997Want to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

In this powerful episode Will Small welcomes Chalise van Wyngaardt (they/them), also known as Boy Renaissance, for a deeply moving conversation about faith, queerness, and finding belonging in spirituality and expression through poetry.Episode Highlights:Chalise's Journey: From growing up in Baptist and Pentecostal churches to discovering their queer identity at 16, Chalise shares their experience of being confronted by church leadership and choosing to walk away rather than deny their authentic self.Faith Fluidity: Chalise describes their "non-binary faith" - embracing days when they feel more atheist than Christian and vice versa, finding beauty in the mystery rather than rigid definitions.Spiritual Transformation: After exploring various spiritual traditions, Chalise found healing when they discovered West End Uniting Church with its pride flag and inclusive communion, allowing them to reconnect with Christianity on their own terms.Poetry Performance: Chalise shares two powerful poems - "God is Non-Binary" and "Shooting Stars Fall into My Mouth" - exploring their spiritual journey, gender identity, and relationship with God.Future Church Vision: The conversation concludes with reflections on creating more inclusive spiritual spaces where diversity is celebrated and no one feels like an outsider.Connect with Chalise:Instagram: @boyrenaissanceWatch the "God is Non-Binary" video by Boy Renaissance featuring Froonky: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1rqWCYUtogWant to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

LIVE: Is Christianity Still Good News? (Panel Discussion from 2023)Originally recorded June 2023In this timely replay from our archives, we revisit a powerful live panel discussion that feels more relevant than ever. As we navigate 2025's challenging landscape of rising Christian nationalism and global uncertainty, four thoughtful voices offer alternative perspectives on Christianity's role and relevance today.Featured Panelists:Gregg MorrisSally DouglasWill NicholasCarlynne NunnKey Topics Explored:Woman wisdom and Jesus as the feminine divineThe 'cultural tale' we carry with usUsing sci-fi and storytelling to explore theological questionsFinding good news in failure, disappointment and ordinary momentsEpisode Highlights:Beautiful alternatives to dominant Christian narrativesFresh perspectives on what "good news" means todayThoughtful engagement with contemporary challengesHope-filled possibilities for faith in uncertain timesImportant Update: Spiritual Misfits is now being supported by the Sydney Central Coast Presbytery of the Uniting Church. For those who support the podcast or wish to begin supporting, please note our new bank account details are available at spiritualmisfits.com.au under the 'Support Us' tab.Want to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com

The conversation revolves around the Religious Trauma Collective, a group formed by Jane Kennedy, Samantha Sellers and Elise Heerde. They discuss the importance of recognising and addressing religious trauma, the context of this issue in Australia and New Zealand, and the differences between healthy and unhealthy religious environments. The Collective aims to provide resources, support, and community for those affected by religious trauma. In this conversation, the group explore the complexities of community, the importance of diversity in faith spaces, and the nuances of navigating online influences and deconstruction. They discuss the journey of healing from religious trauma, the balance between public and private healing, and the significance of therapy in this space.Learn more here: https://www.thereligioustraumacollective.com/Want to reach out and let us know your thoughts or suggestions for the show? Send us a message here; we'd love to hear from you.The Spiritual Misfits Survival Guide (FREE): https://www.spiritualmisfits.com.au/survivalguideSign up to our mailing list:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/Join our online Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/spiritualmisfitspodcastSupport the pod:https://spiritualmisfits.com.au/support-us/View all episodes at: https://spiritualmisfits.buzzsprout.com