Voices of VR Podcast – Designing for Virtual Reality

Here's my interview with Keiichi Matsuda, Designer and Director of Liquid City, that was conducted on Thursday, June 12, 2025 at Augmented World Expo in Long Beach, CA. In the introduction, I read through Matsuda's essay titled "Gods" (also uploaded here) where he explores the idea that AI should be more like pets and polytheistic and animistic familiars rather than the more monotheistic approach where there's one true AI God represented by one of Big Tech's omniscient and all-powerful AI systems. This approach has lead Matsuda to developing a system of what he calls "parabrains" that is an interface for AI agents that goes beyond the narrative scripting capabilities that he was exploring in inworld.ai with his project MeetWol that I covered previously at AWE 2023. A lot of Matsuda's ideas were also explored in the speculative fiction short film called Agents that was produced in collaboration with what was a the time Niantic Labs and is now Niantic Spatial (check out my interview with Niantic Spatial at AWE 2025 for more on how they're using Matsuda's Parabrains system). And you can also see more context in the rough transcript below. This is episode #41 of 41 of my AWE Past and Present series totaling 24.5 hours. You can see a list of all of the interviews down below: #1590: AWE Past and Present: Ori Inbar on the Founding of Augmented World Expo to Cultivate the XR Community #1591: Sonya Haskins' Journey to Head of Programming at Augmented World Expo #1592: Highlights of AWE 2025 from Head of Programming Sonya Haskins #1593: From Military to Enterprise VR Training with Mass Virtual on Spatial Learning #1594: Part 1: Rylan Pozniak-Daniels' Journey into XR Development (2019) #1595: Part 2: Rylan Pozniak-Daniels' Journey into XR Development (2025) #1596: Engage XR's Virtual Concert as Experiential Advertising for their Immersive Learning Platform (2023) #1597: Educator Vasilisa Glauser on Using VR for Twice Exceptional Students #1598: Part 1: Immersive Data Visualization with BadVR's Suzanne Borders (2018) #1599: Part 2: Immersive Data Visualization with BadVR's Suzanne Borders (2021) #1600: Part 1: Jason Marsh on Telling Data Stories with Flow Immersive (2018) #1601: Part 2: Jason Marsh on Telling Data Stories with Flow Immersive (2019) #1602: Part 3: Jason Marsh on Telling Data Stories with Flow Immersive (2025) #1603: Spatial Analytics with Cognitive3D's Tony Bevilacqua (2023) #1604: Investing in Female Founders with WXR Fund's Amy LaMeyer + Immersive Music Highlights (2019) #1605: Rapid Prototyping in VR with ShapesXR + 2021 Launch with CEO Inga Petryaevskaya #1606: Weekly Meetups in VR with XR Women Founder Karen Alexander #1607: 2023 XR Women Innovation Award Winner Deirdre V. Lyons on Immersive Theater #1608: AWE Hall of Famer Brenda Laurel on "Computers as Theater" Book, Ethics, and VR for Ecological Thinking #1609: Framework for Personalized, Responsive XR Stories with Narrative Futurist Joshua Rubin #1610: Scouting XR & AI Infrastructure Trends with Nokia's Leslie Shannon #1611: Socratic Debate on Future of AI & XR from AWE 2025 Panel #1612: AWE Hall of Famer Gregory Panos's Journey into VR: Identity, Body Capture, and Virtual Immortalization #1613: VR Content Creator Matteo311 on the State of VR Gaming #1614: Story Behind "Escape Artist" 2024 Polys WebXR Awards Winner #1615: Viverse's WebXR Plublishing Strategy with James C. Kane & "In Tirol" Game #1616: Founding Story of Two Bit Circus Micro-Amusement Park with Brent Bushnell & Eric Gradman (2018) #1617: Dream Park: Using MR in Public Spaces to Create Downloadable Theme Parks with Brent Bushnell & Aidan Wolf #1618: Producing Live Sports for Cosm's Immersive Dome with Ryan Cole #1619: Deploying Snap Spectacles in Verse Immersive AR LBE with Enklu's Ray Kallmeyer #1620: Snap's Head of Hardware Scott Myers on Spectacles Announcements & Ecosystem Update

Here's my interview with Alicia Berry (Executive Producer at Niantic Spatial) & Asim Ahmed (Head of Product Marketing at Niantic Spatial) that was conducted on Thursday, June 12, 2025 at Augmented World Expo in Long Beach, CA. Check out their announcement blog posts including "Niantic Spatial and Snap's Multi-Year Strategic Partnership to Build AI-Powered Map" as well as "Niantic Spatial Joins Khronos Group to Advance Geospatial AI and 3D Standards" (mentioned in my latest interview with Neil Trevett, as well as "Meow Wolf and Niantic Spatial Announce Plans to Explore an Expansion of the Meow Wolf Universe". Also be sure to check out my interview with Keiichi Matsuda about Liquid City's Parabrains system that Niantic Spatial was using in their VPS guided tour demo they were showing at AWE. And you can also see more context in the rough transcript below. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

Here's my interview with Caitlin Krause, Founder of Mindwise, that was conducted on Wednesday, June 11, 2025 at Augmented World Expo in Long Beach, CA. This is part 2 of 2 of my conversations with Krause, you can see part 1 from 2019 here. See more context in the rough transcript below. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

Here's my interview with Caitlin Krause, Founder of Mindwise, Writer, Speaker, Programmer, Educator, & Curator of Experiences, that was conducted on Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at Oculus Connect in San Jose, CA. This is part 1 of 2 of my conversations with Krause, you can see part 2 from 2025 here. See more context in the rough transcript below. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

Here's my interview with Neil Trevett, President of the Khronos Group talking about the new OpenXR Extension of Spatial Entities that has been in development for two years including PICO, Collabora, Godot Engine, Google, Meta, Unity, and Varjo, Microsoft, and ByteDance. You can see statements from many of these companies at the end of the blog announcement titled "OpenXR Spatial Entities Extensions Released for Developer Feedback." My interview with Trevett was conducted on Tuesday, June 10, 2025 at Augmented World Expo in Long Beach, CA. See more context in the rough transcript below. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

Here's my interview with Tom Emrich, founder and editor-in-chief of Remix Reality, XR Product leader, Community Builder, Journalist, & Investor, that was conducted on Wednesday, June 11, 2025 at Augmented World Expo in Long Beach, CA. This is part 2 of 2 of my conversations with Emrich, you can see part 1 from 2018 here. See more context in the rough transcript below. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

Here's my interview with Tom Emrich from June 17, 2018 when he was still a partner of Super Ventures, co-producer of Augmented World Expo. This is part 1 of 2 of my conversations with Emrich, you can see part 2 from 2025 here. See more context in the rough transcript below. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

Here's my interview with Ziad Asghar, Qualcomm's Senior Vice President & General Manager of XR & Spatial Computing, that was conducted on Wednesday, June 11, 2025 at Augmented World Expo in Long Beach, CA. See more context in the rough transcript below. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

Here's my interview with Brian Vogelsang from June 1, 2023 at Augmented World Expo when he was still Qualcomm's Senior Director of Product Management for Snapdragon Spaces and Developer Ecosystem. We cover a lot of Qualcomm's announcements from AWE 2023, including the dual-render fusion features for tethering the touch-screen interfaces to AR experiences that could be seen on different head-mounted glasses form factors. See more context in the rough transcript below. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

Here's my interview with Karl Guttag of the KGOnTech Blog as well as independent analyst for consumer XR display devices and systems that was conducted on Thursday, June 1, 2023 at Augmented World Expo in Santa Clara, CA. See more context in the rough transcript below. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

Here's my interview with Scott Myers, Vice President of Hardware Engineering at Snap and Snapchat Spectacles, that was conducted on Tuesday, June 10, 2025 at Augmented World Expo in Long Beach, CA. See more context in the rough transcript below. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

Here's my interview with Ray Kallmeyer, Founder and CEO of Enklu and their 22 Verse Immersive AR LBE locations, that was conducted on Tuesday, June 10, 2025 at Augmented World Expo in Long Beach, CA. See more context in the rough transcript below.

Here's my interview with Ryan Cole, Vice President of Video Technology at Cosm, that was conducted on Wednesday, June 11, 2025 at Augmented World Expo in Long Beach, CA. See more context in the rough transcript below. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

Here's my interview with the co-founders of Dream Park, Brent Bushnell & Aidan Wolf, that was conducted on Wednesday, June 11, 2025 at Augmented World Expo in Long Beach, CA. See more context in the rough transcript below. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

Here's my interview with the co-founders of at Two Bit Circus, Brent Bushnell & Eric Gradman, that was conducted on Thursday, October 11, 2018 at site visit to Two Bit Circus in Los Angeles, CA just over a month from their grand opening September 5th, 2018. See more context in the rough transcript below. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

Here's my interview about Viverse's Open Metaverse Strategy built on WebXR frameworks as well as the new WebXR game by James C. Kane called In Tirol. Kane is a Director in Emerging Technologies with a Focus on Immersive Tech, AR/VR, & WebXR, and this interview was conducted on Wednesday, June 11, 2025 at Augmented World Expo in Long Beach, CA. See more context in the rough transcript below. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

Here's my interview about the WebXR experience called Escape Artist with James C. Kane (who at the time was Technical Director at Paradowski), Andy Wise (Vice President of Creative Technology at Paradowski), & Ayushman Johri (3D Artist at Paradowski) that was conducted via Zoom on Tuesday, March 12, 2024. See more context in the rough transcript below. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

Here's my interview with Matteo311, VR Content Creator, that was conducted on Tuesday, June 10, 2025 at Augmented World Expo in Long Beach, CA. See more context in the rough transcript below. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

Here's my biographical oral history interview with Gregory Panos, 2025 Inductee into the Augmented World Expo Hall of Fame, talking about his journey from the early days of computer graphics to becoming a virtual reality evangelist and consultant, community builder via SIGGRAPH, as well as his long-time fascination with identity, volumetric capture of people, memorialization, and his ideas around a celebratory process of virtual immortalization as elaborated in his 1994 paper "Using Virtual Reality to Document Human Existence." Thursday, June 12, 2025 at Augmented World Expo in Long Beach, CA. See more context in the rough transcript below. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

Here's the panel discussion of Socratic Dialogue on the Future of AI and Immersive Technology with Alvin Wang Graylin, Kent Bye, Louis Rosenberg, Leslie Shannon that was recorded on the main stage of Augmented World Expo on Thursday, June 12, 2025 at Augmented World Expo in Long Beach, CA. See more context in the rough transcript below, and you can watch the original video here. Here's some other relevant episodes that I've done recently in preparation for this debate on AI: #1563: Deconstructing AI Hype with “The AI Con” Authors Emily M. Bender and Alex Hanna #1568: A Process-Relational Philosophy View on AI, Intelligence, & Consciousness with Matt Segall #1585: Debating AI Project and a Curating Taiwanese LBE VR Exhibition at Museum of Moving Image #1609: Framework for Personalized, Responsive XR Stories with Narrative Futurist Joshua Rubin #1610: Scouting XR & AI Infrastructure Trends with Nokia's Leslie Shannon #1629: Niantic Spatial is Building an AI-Powered Map with Snap for AR Glasses & AI Agents #1630: Keiichi Matsuda on Metaphors for AI Agents in XR User Experience: From Omniscient Gods to Animistic Familiars #1611: Socratic Debate on Future of AI & XR from AWE 2025 Panel This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

Here's my interview with Leslie Shannon, Nokia's Head of Trend and Innovation Scouting, that was conducted on Tuesday, June 10, 2025 at Augmented World Expo in Long Beach, CA. See more context in the rough transcript below. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

Here's my interview with Joshua Rubin, Interactive Emmy-Winning Narrative Director, Immersive Storyteller, and Narrative Futurist, that was conducted on Tuesday, June 10, 2025 at Augmented World Expo in Long Beach, CA. We talked about his talk at SXSW 2025 titled Building the Personalized, Responsive XR of the Future: Lessons we can learn from immersive theater and gaming See more context in the rough transcript below. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

Here's my interview with Brenda Laurel, Board of Virtual World Society, VR Artist, Theorist, Writer, Speaker, Designer, author of five books including Computers as Theatre, that was conducted on Wednesday, May 29, 2019 at Augmented World Expo in Santa Clara, CA. See more context in the rough transcript below. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

Here's my interview with Deirdre V. Lyons, Founder of Ferryman Collective and winner of the 2023 Women in XR Innovation Award, that was conducted on Thursday, June 1, 2023 at Augmented World Expo in Santa Clara, CA. See my conversation with the XR Women Real World Impact Award recipient Paige Dansinger in episode #1308 and as well as XR Women The Trailblazer Award winner Athena Demos in episode #1192. See more context in the rough transcript below. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

Here's my interview with Karen Alexander, one of the co-founders of XR Women, Consultant, & Executive Director of Academy of Immersive Arts & Sciences, that was conducted on Wednesday, June 11, 2025 at Augmented World Expo in Long Beach, CA. See more context in the rough transcript below. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

Here's my interview with Inga Petryaevskaya, Founder, CEO, ShapesXR, that was conducted on Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at Augmented World Expo in Santa Clara, CA. See more context in the rough transcript below. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

Here's my interview with Amy LaMeyer, Managing Partner of The WXR Fund and Angel Investor in VR, AR, AI space, that was conducted on Thursday, May 30, 2019 at Augmented World Expo in Santa Clara, CA. See more context in the rough transcript below. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

Here's my interview with Tony Bevilacqua, Founder and CEO of Cognitive3D, that was conducted on Friday, June 2, 2023 at Augmented World Expo in Santa Clara, CA. See more context in the rough transcript below. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

Here's my interview with Jason Marsh, Founder and CEO of Flow Immersive, that was conducted on Thursday, June 12, 2025 at Augmented World Expo in Long Beach, CA. This is part 3 of 3 of my conversations with Marsh, you can see part 1 from 2018 here and part 2 from 2019 here. See more context in the rough transcript below. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

Here's my interview with Jason Marsh, CEO and Founder of Flow Immersive, that was conducted on Wednesday, October 16, 2019 at Virtual Reality Strategy Conference in San Francisco, CA. This is part 2 of 3 of my conversations with Marsh, you can see part 1 from 2018 here and part 3 from 2025 here. See more context in the rough transcript below. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

Here's my interview with Jason Marsh, CEO and Founder of Flow Immersive, that was conducted on Tuesday, October 16, 2018 at Virtual Reality Strategy Conference in San Francisco, CA. This is part 1 of 3 of my conversations with Marsh, you can see part 2 from 2019 here and part 3 from 2025 here. See more context in the rough transcript below. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

Here's my interview with Suzanne Borders, CEO and Co-Founder of BadVR, that was conducted on Thursday, November 11, 2021 at Augmented World Expo in Santa Clara, CA. This is part 2 of my conversation with Borders, see part 1 here. See more context in the rough transcript below. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

Here's my interview with Suzanne Borders, CEO and Co-Founder of BadVR, that was conducted on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at Magic Leap's LEAPCON in Los Angeles, CA. This is part 1 of my conversation with Borders, see part 2 here. See more context in the rough transcript below. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

Here's my interview with Vasilisa Glauser, educator specializing in twice exceptionality, that was conducted on Wednesday, June 11, 2025 at Augmented World Expo in Long Beach, CA. See more context in the rough transcript below. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

Here's my interview with ENGAGE's David Whelan, CEO of Engage PLC, that was conducted on Thursday, June 1, 2023 at Augmented World Expo in Santa Clara, CA. Be sure to check out my previous episode #1215: Fatboy Slim's Groundbreaking & Trippy VR Concert on EngageXR that was released a few days before this follow-up conversation with Whelan. See more context in the rough transcript below. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

Here's my interview with Rylan Pozniak-Daniels, XR Developer and Futurist, that was conducted on Tuesday, June 10, 2025 at Augmented World Expo in Long Beach, CA. See more context in the rough transcript below. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

Here's my interview with Rylan Pozniak Daniels, Futurist and AR/VR Developer, that was conducted on Wednesday, May 29, 2019 at Augmented World Expo in Santa Clara, CA. See more context in the rough transcript below. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

Here's my interview with Michael Peeler, Business Development Manager at Mass Virtual, that was conducted on Thursday, June 12, 2025 at Augmented World Expo in Long Beach, CA. See more context in the rough transcript below. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

Here's my interview with Sonia Haskins, Head of Programming at Augmented World Expo, that was conducted on Wednesday, June 11, 2025 at Augmented World Expo in Long Beach, CA. This is part 2 of 2 of my conversations with Haskins, you can see part 1 from 2023 here. See more context in the rough transcript below. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

Here's my interview with Sonya Haskins, Head of Programming at Augmented World Expo, that was conducted on Friday, June 2, 2023 at Augmented World Expo in Santa Clara, CA. This is part 1 of 2 of my conversations with Haskins, you can see part 2 from 2025 here. See more context in the rough transcript below. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

Here's my interview with Ori Inbar, co-founder at Super Ventures and Augmented World Expo, that was conducted on Friday, June 2, 2023 at Augmented World Expo in Santa Clara, CA. See more context in the rough transcript below. This AWE Past and Present series represents 41 interviews and 24.5 hours of coverage from AWE 2025 as well as past enterprise XR conferences gatherings from 2018-2025 and should hopefully give a good overview of some of the current trends and discussions happening within the industry. #1590: AWE Past and Present: Ori Inbar on the Founding of Augmented World Expo to Cultivate the XR Community #1591: Sonya Haskins' Journey to Head of Programming at Augmented World Expo #1592: Highlights of AWE 2025 from Head of Programming Sonya Haskins #1593: From Military to Enterprise VR Training with Mass Virtual on Spatial Learning #1594: Part 1: Rylan Pozniak-Daniels' Journey into XR Development (2019) #1595: Part 2: Rylan Pozniak-Daniels' Journey into XR Development (2025) #1596: Engage XR's Virtual Concert as Experiential Advertising for their Immersive Learning Platform (2023) #1597: Educator Vasilisa Glauser on Using VR for Twice Exceptional Students #1598: Part 1: Immersive Data Visualization with BadVR's Suzanne Borders (2018) #1599: Part 2: Immersive Data Visualization with BadVR's Suzanne Borders (2021) #1600: Part 1: Jason Marsh on Telling Data Stories with Flow Immersive (2018) #1601: Part 2: Jason Marsh on Telling Data Stories with Flow Immersive (2019) #1602: Part 3: Jason Marsh on Telling Data Stories with Flow Immersive (2025) #1603: Spatial Analytics with Cognitive3D's Tony Bevilacqua (2023) #1604: Investing in Female Founders with WXR Fund's Amy LaMeyer + Immersive Music Highlights (2019) #1605: Rapid Prototyping in VR with ShapesXR + 2021 Launch with CEO Inga Petryaevskaya #1606: Weekly Meetups in VR with XR Women Founder Karen Alexander #1607: 2023 XR Women Innovation Award Winner Deirdre V. Lyons on Immersive Theater #1608: AWE Hall of Famer Brenda Laurel on "Computers as Theater" Book, Ethics, and VR for Ecological Thinking #1609: Framework for Personalized, Responsive XR Stories with Narrative Futurist Joshua Rubin #1610: Scouting XR & AI Infrastructure Trends with Nokia's Leslie Shannon #1611: Socratic Debate on Future of AI & XR from AWE 2025 Panel #1612: AWE Hall of Famer Gregory Panos's Journey into VR: Identity, Body Capture, and Virtual Immortalization #1613: VR Content Creator Matteo311 on the State of VR Gaming #1614: Story Behind "Escape Artist" 2024 Polys WebXR Awards Winner #1615: Viverse's WebXR Plublishing Strategy with James C. Kane & "In Tirol" Game #1616: Founding Story of Two Bit Circus Micro-Amusement Park with Brent Bushnell & Eric Gradman (2018) #1617: Dream Park: Using MR in Public Spaces to Create Downloadable Theme Parks with Brent Bushnell & Aidan Wolf #1618: Producing Live Sports for Cosm's Immersive Dome with Ryan Cole #1619: Deploying Snap Spectacles in Verse Immersive AR LBE with Enklu's Ray Kallmeyer #1620: Snap's Head of Hardware Scott Myers on Spectacles Announcements & Ecosystem Update #1621: Karl Guttag's Technical Deep-Dive and Analysis of Consumer XR Displays and LCoS (2023) #1622: Qualcomm's 2023 AWE Announcements for Snapdragon Spaces Ecosystem #1623: Qualcomm's 2025 AWE Announcements and Android XR Partnerships with Ziad Asghar #1624: Tom Emrich's State of AR in 2018 #1625: Tom Emrich's "The Next Dimension" Book on AR for Marketing & Business Growth #1626: New Spatial Entities OpenXR Extension to Scan, Detect, & Track Planes with Khronos Group President Neil Trevett #1627: Part 1: Caitlin Krause on Bringing Mindfulness Practices into VR (2019) #1628: Part 2: Caitlin Krause on "Digital Wellbeing" Theory and Practice with XR & AI (2025) #1629: Niantic Spatial is Building an AI-Powered Map with Snap for AR Glasses & AI Agents

I talk with Excurio co-founder and CEO Fabien Barati & Jules Rimbaud, business development manager for the US territory, about expanding Excurio to 22 locations worldwide, and now with a focus of expanding into North America. See more context in the rough transcript below. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

I spoke with Todd Little & Erik Horn about Space-Time Adventure Tour in Central Park during Tribeca Immersive 2025. See more context in the rough transcript below. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

I spoke with Philippe Bedard about States of Immersion Across Media: Bodies, Techniques, Practices at Tribeca Immersive 2023. See more context in the rough transcript below. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

I spoke with Michaela Ternasky Holland about her project The Gr(ai)t Debate at Onassis ONX Summer Showcase 2025 as well as the Portals of Solitude: Virtual Realities from Taiwan show she curated at the Museum of Moving Image. See more context in the rough transcript below. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

I spoke to Michaela Ternasky-Holland at the New Images Festival 2023 about the white paper titled "Deepening Engagement and Learning Impact through Virtual Reality Activations: Case Study Project: On the Morning You Wake (to the End of the World." See more context in the rough transcript below. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

I spoke with Michaela Ternasky-Holland at the Immersive Design Summit 2019 about her entry into the immersive space, some of her early immersive storytelling projects, and working with at the Museum of Ice Cream as a creative assistant to the founder. See more context in the rough transcript below. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

I talk with pop culture scholar Shawn Taylor about fandom at the Immersive Design Summit 2019, and be sure to check out his post "We the Fans: How Our Powers Can Change the World" for more on his thoughts on fandom. We also talk about Edward T. Hall's concept of Monochronic vs Polychronic time. See more context in the rough transcript below. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

I spoke with Reese Antoinette & MaryAnn Talavera about The ORIXA Project at Onassis ONX Summer Showcase 2023. See more context in the rough transcript below. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

I spoke with Graham Sack about Neuro-Cinema: From Synapse to Montage at Onassis ONX Summer Showcase 2025. See more context in the rough transcript below. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

I spoke with the (now former) head of creative partnerships at ONX Vallejo Gantner at the Onassis ONX Summer Showcase 2023. We talked about the origin story of ONYX Studios as well the the Onassis Foundation's support for XR art and innovation. See more context in the rough transcript below. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality