Podcast appearances and mentions of alicia davis

First came the gerrymander, as Georgia's state GOP legislators redrew a majority liberal county's commission map to better favor Republicans. Then came the court battle to unseat the commissioner elected to serve, but drawn out of her district by said gerrymander. Today, with both the map and the vacancy now adjudicated (poorly, I might add), many Cobb County voters head to the polls today to fill the vacancy with either former state representative Erick Allen or Alicia Davis, whose leading donor is the state senator who sponsored the gerrymander creating the vacancy i the first place. Other voters in Cobb will either re-elect incumbent Democrat Monique Sheffield or GOP challenger Matthew Hardwick. However, because the gerrymander and court thievery weren't eough, conservatives launched an 11th-hour disinformation campaign with a tactic that smacks of old mid-20th century "good ol' boy" tactics. You know the one: "Republicans vote today; Democrats tomorrow." With me to speak on it today is Cobb County Democratic party chair Essence Johnson and candidate Erick Allen. ------Meanwhile state party leaders will convene to elect a new state party chair, and the six candidates vying for the job held another forum last night in Toccoa. Hear their introductions and feel free to review that forum or the first or second forum of these same candidates held earlier this month.

*This is a recast of episode #59 from 2022. Creation is a divine characteristic. Are you a creator in your life and of your life? If you feel you could use some guidance in this area, take a listen to this episode. You will leave feeling uplifted and with a greater desire to create. Coach Alicia Davis believes in the importance of tapping into our creator capabilities and truly learning what we are meant to create with our lives. She believes that as we turn to the One who knows us best, our Heavenly Father, we are able to not only create ourselves but also help the creation process of those around us.    For more information about Alicia and for links to access all she has to offer, please click HERE! Watch this interview on YouTube, HERE. For more information and available downloads, go to: https://ldslifecoaches.com/ All content is copyrighted to Heather Rackham and featured coaches. Do not use without permission.  

No matter the role. The work of an Ingalls shipbuilder is both complex and inspiring. For 85 years, the world-class shipbuilders at Ingalls have designed, built and maintained amphibious ships, destroyers and cutters for the U.S. Navy and U.S. Coast Guard. Welcome to Inside Ingalls, a podcast that dives deep into the stories and perspectives of those who shape our legacy.

In this episode, I share a list posted on TikTok by OnlyFans model Alicia Davis of her must-haves in a man. I also talk about how so many chronically single people get in their own way in their love life. Sources: https://www.perthnow.com.au/lifestyle/influencers/aussie-onlyfans-creator-alicia-davis-goes-viral-for-brutal-non-negotiable-dating-checklist--c-15329326 https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/alicia-davis-left-her-job-as-a-prison-guard-to-embark-on-career-in-porn/news-story/63336cf994af4ec7a14cbed98bb08ef3 https://www.tiktok.com/@littlebrunettebaddiee/video/7387398088756858132 --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/1morethingwsologreen/support

While being a parent to any child brings its own unique challenges and struggles, parenting styles often vary based on the gender of a child. Boys need to be parented differently than girls. Coach Alicia Davis is a mom to four boys of her own and loves helping moms of boys learn how to better parent their sons. In today's episode Alicia is talking about three important areas she feels moms need to make sure their teen boys know before they send them out into the world. All moms want to make sure their kids are ready for real life and this is a great episode to help you make sure you have taught some important life skills to your boys.  If you feel overwhelmed or need help in parenting your boys, make sure you reach out to Alicia. She knows what you are going through and is a great resource. Enjoy today's episode.  For more information about Alicia and for links to access all she has to offer, please click HERE! To watch this interview on YouTube, go HERE. For more information and available downloads, go to: https://ldslifecoaches.com/ All content is copyrighted to Heather Rackham and featured coaches. Do not use without permission.  

Today we're kicking off a new series on the business of coffee roasting, exploring all aspects of setting up a roastery - from sourcing equipment and green coffee to building a brand and establishing wholesale partnerships.In the first episode, we speak with Lem Butler, Co-Founder, Black and White Coffee Roasters and Kirby Sinclair, Co-founder, The Roasting Party, to understand the basics and first steps of establishing a roastery In these conversations we discuss how to find the right location, how to know when to upgrade facilities as you grow and the importance of defining your vision and building business relationships. Credits music: "Bad as you Are" by Alicia Davis in association with The Coffee Music Project and SEB CollectiveSign up for our newsletter to receive the latest coffee news at worldcoffeeportal.comSubscribe to 5THWAVE on Instagram @5thWaveCoffee and tell us what topics you'd like to hear

Ever felt like you're navigating the stormy sea of parenting with no compass in hand? Our latest episode features certified life coach Alicia Davis, who dedicates herself to guiding moms back to sure ground. She opens up about her deeply personal journey, revealing how she discovered the transformative power of taking radical responsibility for her own life. Her experiences and insights offer a beacon of hope and a treasure trove of practical tools for all moms struggling to foster deeper connections with their children, spouses, or a higher being.We plunge into the unique terrain of raising boys, with Alicia leading the way - a seasoned adventurer, having journeyed this path with her four sons. She not only shares the bumpy parts of the journey - the self-doubt, exhaustion but also the high points - the hands-on exploration, the raw energy, the joy of boyhood. As we pivot into the delicate subject of handling disagreements in the parental sphere, Alicia underscores the importance of acknowledging and managing our emotions.As our conversation progresses, we focus on the critical skill of understanding our children's emotions. Here, Alicia shares her wisdom on nurturing their emotional intelligence, emphasizing the importance of validation over advice. We explore strategies to nurture parent-child relationships filled with love and mutual respect, empowering you with effective communication and conflict resolution tools. Finally, we shine a spotlight on the offerings of Alicia's one-on-one sessions and her podcast, "Seven Minute Sunshine," a beacon of light for busy moms. This episode is a heartening blend of thought-provoking discussions and practical tips - a valuable companion for your parenting journey.Find Alicia on Instagram!https://www.instagram.com/aliciadaviscoaching/Find Alicia on her website!https://www.aliciadaviscoaching.com/Listen to Alicia's Podcast!https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/7-minute-sunshine-the-podcast-for-mothers-raising-men/id1564537709

Alicia Davis and Jamille Wilson of the Neighborhood Assistance Corporation of America (NACA) sat with us in this episode. They shared their knowledge and experience of the housing market, both past and present. They spoke of the importance of NACA and its upcoming 3 day event from October 6th to October 8th, which provides a great opportunity for families to begin creating generational wealth. Davis and Wilson both emphasized the potential of NACA to help families achieve their real estate goals and establish financial security. It was an informative and insightful interview, as two experienced professionals shared their expertise with us. ----Connect With Us On Social Media ----- Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.instagram.com/illanoizeradio⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter:⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠twitter.com/illanoizeradio⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.facebook.com/illanoizeradio

In episode 7, I told you the first part of the story of 12-year-old Alex Hurley. I provided updates on Alex's case throughout the next three years. This past week, the last family member charged in Alex's death was finally sentenced, so I'm revisiting Alex's story in an all-new, comprehensive episode like I've never told it before.On February 3, 2020, first responders were summoned to a home in West Yellowstone, Montana, where they found 12-year-old Alex Hurley dead on the living room floor, battered and malnourished. Five people aged 14 to 48, including four paternal family members, were arrested and charged with various crimes surrounding Alex's long-term systematic torture and eventual murder. In this episode, I'll tell you Alex's story as thoroughly as possible from start to finish. You'll also hear my recent conversation with Alex's mom, Alicia Davis, who told me all about the happy, active boy she nicknamed “Bubba Brown.” This is the heartbreaking story of Alex Hurley, retold. A realtor video of the Sasser home before the family bought it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwTwGqJRias&ab_channel=ListingsMagicRemember James “Alex” Hurley on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2920235218061666 This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/STLC, and get on your way to being your best self.Photos related to today's episode can be viewed on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sufferthelittlechildrenpod You can also follow the podcast on:Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sufferthelittlechildrenpodInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/sufferthelittlechildrenpodTwitter: https://www.twitter.com/STLCpodTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@STLCpodMy Linktree is available here: https://linktr.ee/stlcpod Visit the podcast's web page at https://www.sufferthelittlechildrenpod.com. Please help make the show my full-time gig to keep the weekly episodes coming! By supporting me on Patreon, you'll also access rewards, including a shout-out by name on the podcast and exclusive gifts. Pledges of $5 or more per month access ad-free versions of my regular Wednesday episodes (starting with episode #88). Pledges of $5 per month can listen to my weekly episodes ad free, while $10 or more per month access a small but growing collection of Patreon-exclusive bonus minisodes! Visit www.patreon.com/STLCpod. You can also support the podcast on www.Ko-Fi.com/STLCpod. Merch is available at www.sufferthelittlechildrenpod.com/shop. This podcast is researched, written, hosted, edited, and produced by Laine.For more stories like this one, visit https://sufferthelittlechildrenblog.com.Music for this episode is licensed from https://audiojungle.net. Subscribe to Suffer the Little Children:Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/suffer-the-little-children/id1499010711Google Podcasts: https://playmusic.app.goo.gl/?ibi=com.google.PlayMusic&isi=691797987&ius=googleplaymusic&apn=com.google.android.music&link=https://play.google.com/music/m/I5mx3lacxpdkhssmk2n22csf32u?t%3DSuffer_the_Little_Children%26pcampaignid%3DMKT-na-all-co-pr-mu-pod-16Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/suffer-the-little-childrenSpreaker: https://www.spreaker.com/show/suffer-the-little-children Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/suffer-the-little-children/PC:61848?part=PC:61848&corr=podcast_organic_external_site&TID=Brand:POC:PC61848:podcast_organic_external_siteSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0w98Tpd3710BZ0u036T1KEiHeartRadio: https://iheart.com/podcast/77891101/ ...or on your favorite podcast listening platform.This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/4232884/advertisement

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Recorded at EThOs Small Business Incubator and Co-working Spaces in Marion, Illinois. https://members.ethosmarion.org/ SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST Our guest: https://www.mysfagentalicia.com/

Meet Kene Erike. Kene, pronounced “Kenny” is short for “Kenechukwu” which means "Thank God" in Igbo (a tribe in Nigeria) was born in New York and lived most of his life there. He will tell us about growing up and why he majored in “AEM”, Applied Economics and Management from Cornell University. Kene describes himself as a naturally curious individual who grew up thinking about how things didn't always need to be as they appeared. He will tell us about some of his experiences in wholesale and how they shaped what he does today. Also, he will tell us about his life including a story about a severe illness he had as well as how he overcame it. Kene is the founder and owner of K.E. Consulting, an organization that specializes in helping clients achieve their potential, build genuine connections, and become more effective leaders. He discusses what he does as well as how he accomplishes helping people become better leaders. Along the way, he will give us thoughts and ideas we all can use to make our own lives more productive and unstoppable. About the Guest: Kene Erike is a leadership development coach. (His name is informally pronounced as "Kenny", short for "Kenechukwu", which means "Thank God" in Igbo (a tribe in Nigeria).) He is the founder of K.E. Consulting, an organization that specializes in helping clients achieve their potential, build genuine connections, and become more effective leaders. Kene holds a degree in Applied Economics and Management from Cornell University along with decades of experience in personal and professional development. He has always had an interest in how people interact with each other. Like many of us, he has battled shyness, social anxiety, and struggles with confidence. Determined to improve his ability to be his own advocate and connect with those around him, he designed—and completed—exercises that developed skills for growing businesses and strengthening interpersonal relationships. A few years back, God spared him from an ailment that kills tens of thousands of people every year. (Listen to the full story here: https://soundcloud.com/user-31492767/kene-shares-complete-clot-testimony-with-audience-jan-6-2019) In exchange for that second chance at life, Kene swore an oath to do two things: 1.Share the testimony of that ordeal, providing a powerful example of what God can do for all of us. 2.Stop wasting time and get going on his life's work. And that covenant has been a driving force behind K.E. Consulting ever since. When he's not helping others tackle challenges, he enjoys reading and playing football. Social Media Links: Website: https://keneerike.com Twitter: @KeneErike LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kene-erike YouTube: K.E. Consulting Instagram: @k.e.consulting About the Host: Michael Hingson is a New York Times best-selling author, international lecturer, and Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe. Michael, blind since birth, survived the 9/11 attacks with the help of his guide dog Roselle. This story is the subject of his best-selling book, Thunder Dog. Michael gives over 100 presentations around the world each year speaking to influential groups such as Exxon Mobile, AT&T, Federal Express, Scripps College, Rutgers University, Children's Hospital, and the American Red Cross just to name a few. He is Ambassador for the National Braille Literacy Campaign for the National Federation of the Blind and also serves as Ambassador for the American Humane Association's 2012 Hero Dog Awards. https://michaelhingson.com https://www.facebook.com/michael.hingson.author.speaker/ https://twitter.com/mhingson https://www.youtube.com/user/mhingson https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelhingson/ accessiBe Links https://accessibe.com/ https://www.youtube.com/c/accessiBe https://www.linkedin.com/company/accessibe/mycompany/ https://www.facebook.com/accessibe/ Thanks for listening! Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! If you enjoyed this episode and think that others could benefit from listening, please share it using the social media buttons on this page. Do you have some feedback or questions about this episode? Leave a comment in the section below! Subscribe to the podcast If you would like to get automatic updates of new podcast episodes, you can subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts or Stitcher. You can also subscribe in your favorite podcast app. Leave us an Apple Podcasts review Ratings and reviews from our listeners are extremely valuable to us and greatly appreciated. They help our podcast rank higher on Apple Podcasts, which exposes our show to more awesome listeners like you. If you have a minute, please leave an honest review on Apple Podcasts. Transcription Notes Michael Hingson 00:00 Access Cast and accessiBe Initiative presents Unstoppable Mindset. The podcast where inclusion, diversity and the unexpected meet. Hi, I'm Michael Hingson, Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe and the author of the number one New York Times bestselling book, Thunder dog, the story of a blind man, his guide dog and the triumph of trust. Thanks for joining me on my podcast as we explore our own blinding fears of inclusion unacceptance and our resistance to change. We will discover the idea that no matter the situation, or the people we encounter, our own fears, and prejudices often are our strongest barriers to moving forward. The unstoppable mindset podcast is sponsored by accessiBe, that's a c c e s s i capital B e. Visit www.accessibe.com to learn how you can make your website accessible for persons with disabilities. And to help make the internet fully inclusive by the year 2025. Glad you dropped by we're happy to meet you and to have you here with us. Michael Hingson 01:21 Well, Hi, and thanks for attending with us today on unstoppable mindset where inclusion, diversity and the unexpected meet. But today we get to when we get to do a little bit of all of that. And I have the honor to have a chance to chat with Kene Erike. And he will tell us all about his name, I understand along with a whole bunch of other stuff. And so we hope that you'll enjoy the next hour or so with us. And I invite you at the end to give us a five star rating. I hope you'll do that. And we'll talk more about that later. But Kene, welcome to unstoppable mindset. And thanks for joining us. Kene Erike 01:55 Thanks for having me, Mike. I know you've been talking to me for a number of months about appearing on the podcast. I'm just really glad we're able to get that done today. So I'm happy to be here. Thank you. Michael Hingson 02:05 I am glad as well. And I'm really appreciate you taking the time to come on. Kene is in New York. So it's about 530 in the afternoon where you are right now, which is fine. And are you getting snow? Kene Erike 02:22 No, there was a light dusting of snow last week didn't last because it was only like maybe 3334 So it was inclined to melt. But fortunately we been able to dodge that so happy. Michael Hingson 02:37 Down out here in Victorville California, we got to 26 last night so we've got down low but we don't tend to get most of the precipitation. The ski places up in Big Bear which is about 30 miles from here hug it all so we don't get any Kene Erike 02:52 side ticket you must be elevated above sea level quite severe if you guys are getting snow. Michael Hingson 02:57 We're about here we're about 2620 850 feet above sea level. Yeah, but the snow usually comes a little bit higher than that. But we do get the benefit of the cold temperatures. Kene Erike 03:10 That one of the it's funny to me because usually one of the things people love about being California is usually supposed to be Oh, it's supposed to be temporary never supposed to get below 40 degrees but Michael Hingson 03:19 depends on where you live in California. Kene Erike 03:21 Exactly. Michael Hingson 03:22 I'm there is a lot of truth to the fact that you can be at the beach swimming and get in a car and go to two and a half hours and be up skiing. Kene Erike 03:32 That's the beauty of a big state like California with all range of weather there. So worthwhile. Michael Hingson 03:38 Right? Let's let's start tell us a little bit about you growing up and all that kind of stuff. Kene Erike 03:45 Sure. First thing is I'll answer what would might be a common question about my name. People see a spell. Oh, it's K E N E? Is that like a ghetto version of Kenny? No, not at all. My real first name is actually Kenechukwu K E N E C H U K W U, it means thank God and IBO that's a tribe in Nigeria. And often I go by Kenny for short. This to save time such so I would say growing up. I was reserved. I could be talkative depending on the group I was in. But I was always I would describe it cerebral and the way I did things I like to try to think through problems. Although, you know, sometimes a lot of people who are very intellectual, they kind of get stuck by the book that wasn't me at all. I was always about. I don't feel like I'm constrained by convention. I care about finding what works for me. I don't see life as just one answer on some scientists science tests that can be accepted. It's like I try to eliminate preconceived notions about what's possible. So I can try to find many answers to the problem. Any which could be useful in that particular time. And even how I would describe myself now, I would say is evolved in like the last six or eight months due to various life events, I would say, and this is something women listening might appreciate, I become much more emotionally available better at thinking, and articulating my feelings and thoughts in a way that allows people to connect with them more. And I would just say, I was always open to learning more and doing more, I didn't see or think that I had to be a specific type of person or do a specific type of thing. I always thought that who I was the person could evolve. I have certain core principles, but I'm not married to any particular thing about who I am. So that's how I describe how I was growing up. And even now, more so. Michael Hingson 05:54 Did anything happen that kind of made you that way? Or were you just always sort of open and curious and flexible? Or? Kene Erike 06:03 I would definitely say, Sorry to cut you off my, I would definitely stay intellectually curious. That's what allowed me to continue to grow and learn and evolve. I didn't think that because I say I did well in school. So I want to limit myself to what I do. Well, it's like, no, I'd actually want to learn more about what the world is about. Because you never know who you're going to be down the road, who you are at 15 is going to be different than who you are at 25, who's going to be different than who you are. 35. So I always wanted to listen and learn things I wouldn't. I'm not the kind of person who had an ego so big that like if some six year old told me something I thought was interesting. I'd actually be willing to listen to us like, Hey, can I learn from this doesn't matter what the source of the information is? It's the information I cared about. So I would say, I don't know that there was anything per se, that led me to developing that mindset. It's just that I like to learn. And I think if you like to learn, you tend to skew towards being more willing to listen and evolve more so than people that think they know everything, which ironically might suggest you might not know everything. Michael Hingson 07:12 You're in New York, were you from New York originally. Kene Erike 07:16 Yes, I was born in Queens. As a young child, I lived in Rhode Island, but I lived in New York in different parts of life. I went to school, upstate New York, spend most of my life down in Long Island. Michael Hingson 07:33 How much of an influence Were your parents? Do you think on your whole approach to life of being curious, intellectually curious, wanting to learn and grow? Did they foster that and and help instill that in you? Kene Erike 07:48 I think so. I know, both my parents always encouraged us all to read and learn, they definitely said as Nigerian parents, that academics was paramount, getting in the car, getting good work, and just doing all the things related to being good student would tend to encourage you to learn more. There might be some emphasis on with some families, and just doing well on tests. And that's important, but also learning for learning safe, like they my mom used to take us to a library a lot. And both parents would help us with homework if we needed it. But they always encouraged us not to, not to pigeon holed ourselves in ways like you know, some families, I'd be like, Oh, well, my kids have to go in entertainment, or my kids have to study XYZ is like, no, they want you to learn and do well. But they also want you to use your mind in ways that are going to leave you more flexible and more capable down the road. So I would say my parents definitely played a role in my own mindset of how I learned and how I adapted going forward. Michael Hingson 08:54 So where did you go to college? Or did you? Kene Erike 09:00 Yeah, I did. I did go to college. I went to Cornell University, upstate New York. It's a whole different world there. Now, I wouldn't be surprised if it was snowing in Ithaca. I haven't checked. I Michael Hingson 09:12 wouldn't be surprised either. Kene Erike 09:13 Yeah, I know that. I think there was one semester in May that I was there where we actually had snow. It was shocking. Well, not that shocking, given given the topography of their area, but just the fact that you can have snow in May somewhere. A lot of people are like, well, I can't happen. Well, no, I think I can happen. Cornell University. Yeah. Michael Hingson 09:42 The last year we lived in Westfield, New Jersey, which was last full year 2001. In May. We got snow and we had enough snow that in the morning it did not all melt and our house I had a hill in the backyard. And actually, I would walk the dogs by going down the hill and let them go do their business. We didn't have a fenced yard. And there was enough snow that it didn't melt and that hill became totally ice. floe is glass. And it was incredibly hard to get down the hill and up the hill. So I wore my snow boots and I did it once I went asked not going to work very well. We had a long flex leash on like a 2025 foot long leash. So I'd stand at the top later in the day and the next day, and the dogs would go down and do their business. And they came back up and didn't need a lot of help. But boy, I would have if I had tried to do that I did it once. And it was not something I'd want to do on a regular basis. But in May of 2001 What a crazy world. Kene Erike 10:56 What breed of dogs did you have? Michael Hingson 10:59 They were well, let's see, actually, we had one. And she know we had two. They were both yellow labs, female yellow labs. One was a retired guide dog Linney. And then Roselle who checked out my story was with me in the World Trade Center. I saw that. So Roselle, who was the puppy and Lynnie and both of them did well on the hill, but I sure didn't tell tell you. I was I was Kene Erike 11:28 I didn't see it. Especially if it's a slick Hill, you might have some unexpected sledding experiences without a sled. So Michael Hingson 11:37 yeah, I absolutely would. Kene Erike 11:40 But I know those breeds of dogs, they love to run around and love to explore. So I'm sure they really loved that even when I was icy. Michael Hingson 11:47 Oh, yeah, they loved it. They did really well. So it's one of those memories of New Jersey, though, Jersey. So what did you What did you study at Cornell? Kene Erike 12:00 I studied. You know what I should actually backtrack, I can tell you. What led to me studying when I studied. So that's actually a good segue that you mentioned your dogs. I actually initially went to Cornell to study animal science. That's the it's the number one school in the world of Veterinary Medicine always has been for years and years. I can't see that changing. So growing up, I always loved animals. And I wanted to be a veterinarian. I taken a number of research opportunities at different colleges during my high school years. I also interned at a vet's clinic for about a year. And I realized that I still love animals, but the science behind animals is really boring to me. And I wanted to figure out what to change to. But I still wanted to go to Cornell aside, I still matriculated as an animal science major, but I wasn't sure yet what I was going to change to and this is where I got to give credit to a friend. His name is Toby Lewis. He was actually I have been a sophomore. When I met him. Cornell has something called diversity hosting weekend's where they allow students that have gotten accepted into the school to come for a weekend in April, and spend time on campus. And Toby was the student that hosted me. I remember I had a number of conversations with him. And he was like, Maybe you should look into this major called aim, Applied Economics and Management, that might be something of interest to us. So I kept that in mind. And eventually I did become an A major and my sophomore year, again, is applied, Applied Economics and managed economics. Yeah, so a lot of what they do. A lot of the coursework entails some social psychology, econ, marketing, a lot of business related things that you would study in the major. And it fit with me, because I've always been interested in how people interact with each other, which kind of colors the work I do now. So the major made sense. I never lost my love for animals. So I love animals, but this major made sense for me. That's what I studied there. Michael Hingson 14:01 So you didn't talk yourself into going to restaurant and hotel management at Cornell, huh? Kene Erike 14:06 No, no, but I would go into battler every now and then because they had really good food, their own campus mostly had good food. I give them credit for that. And I took some classes. I think I took one class that was in the hotel school and I knew a lot of people in the hotel school as well. So you kind of get that experience offhand. You just walking around. Maybe next time I go to Epic, I don't know when that will be. I might actually stay at the Statler because I have actually stayed at the Statler but Michael Hingson 14:35 yeah, I have a friend who many years ago, went and matriculated in in that school. So she talks about it every so often. Kene Erike 14:47 How does she like it? Michael Hingson 14:48 She loved it. She had a lot of fun night she I don't know that she used it all that much. But she did. She did some but now she's retired and doesn't do that. So there you go. Kene Erike 15:00 It's funny, you mentioned that hotel school, I think I heard that Cornell folded the hotel school into some other part of the curriculum at Cornell. That's what I heard. I can't confirm that. But I just, to me, I thought that when I heard that if it was true, I thought that was a mistake, because that was one of the things that helped Cornell stand out. It's like I maybe it's a money thing that we're not like, we want to try to combine coursework, and I get that part just that having a standalone hotelschool was something that sets you with that, besides me really? Michael Hingson 15:31 Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. It was pretty unique. Yeah. Kene Erike 15:36 higher reps make those decisions. So Michael Hingson 15:38 yeah, they do sometimes good. And sometimes they're not. Yeah. So what did you do after you graduated? Kene Erike 15:48 So like a lot of people, I wasn't sure what I wanted to do. I had some themes about my life, like I've always enjoyed solving problems with how people interact with each other, both the business side and social side. That kind of covers my work. Now. I used to, while I was in college, I was very entrepreneurial, I used to actually sell electronics online, through eBay and some other online sources. And eventually down the road. What I started doing was manufacturing and importing commercial kitchen equipment, had hydroponics equipment and gymnastic equipment, and then bringing it into America and selling it to other people sold other people. So like a wholesaler, I got a bunch of stories related to ecommerce and that, but what I've done now, which really fits with that, and who I am inside is I do leadership and personal development coaching. What does that mean? layman's terms of what it just means is like, I help people take their bundle of skills and interest and use that to help them connect better with people around them both in a business context. And socially, I'd say if you're looking to find a way into a better relationship, can help them with that. How can I be a better manager on site? How can I corral people towards a unified vision and really speak to people in a language that they get? How can I connect with customers better in a way that's authentic, but still puts the interests of both my potential clients and myself at the forefront? So that's much of what I do, as well as career related services like creating resumes and cover letters, CVS, helping with interview and negotiation strategy. So really solving problems in that those areas. That's what I do now, that really fits with, I think, what I was made to do, Michael Hingson 17:42 how did you finally get to this place where you are now, Kene Erike 17:47 it's trial and error. I remember a lot of older adults said, when I was trying to figure out what I want to do, because I actually thought about going to graduate school and becoming some sort of psychologist or therapist, and many adults will give me advice, like, you know, you just got to keep trying things and see what fits, I worked for the government for a while for a couple of years, helping with nonprofits, senior citizens, and veterans save money on their property taxes. So that was always an interesting line, you get an idea of what's out there in both the public and private sector, and just different experiences. There were times that I've worked temp jobs over the years, I'm trying to figure out what I'm gonna do in addition to the work, I'm already doing different entrepreneurial experiences, and I just found that certain themes fit with me, like I love to diagnose what sort of problems are happening with whatever situation I'm in and try to figure out, alright, what's this person's motivation? What are their strengths and development areas that we can use to solve whatever problem we're doing? And not just coming up with solutions, but coming up with solutions that were palatable to whoever I was talking to, like you can't use? You can't use a one size fits all solution for everyone, you've got to be able to say, Okay, this is who is participating in this situation? What do I do to help everyone involved, accomplish whatever goal they're trying to do. So diagnosing problems, being able to create solutions that were practical, not Ivory Tower, or, you know, overly idealistic things that actually worked in the real world, and that were based on science and evidence, and then helping people with these both organizations than individuals. I would say, that's a roundabout answer to your question of how I got into this line of work is just paying attention to different themes in my life, and where opportunities were to help people. Michael Hingson 19:47 So again, you just sort of came to doing that through trial and error doing other kinds of things. And then there was Kene Erike 19:57 some of that there was I would definitely say I got Gotta give some mentions of the Holy Spirit as well, that kind of steers you in a certain direction, like you won't be certain things that have been pulling at you for years. But for whatever reason, you haven't been given enough attention. And once I started doing more of that as like, you know what I should start looking to these kinds of fields and this kind of work, really, it feels like it fits. And that's often a sign that God's directing you somewhere. So you don't want to ignore that. Michael Hingson 20:26 Right? Absolutely true. But you You did throw a big temptation out there. So I do have to ask, you said you had all sorts of stories about the time that you were doing wholesale type things, and so on love to hear some stories. All right, I'll Kene Erike 20:41 give you I'll give you one story is there you go. This is like a summary of something that transparent, inspired a few years ago, but actually, a version of the story made it into New York Times one week in the business section. So one of the more popular items I used to sell online, I would manufacture it and bring it in was a mini donut machine. Certain restaurants, entrepreneurs loved to make donuts, so it was a good seller. And I would frequently sell this machine on eBay for depending on the time of year round, like $1,500 or so. And I don't know if you're familiar with how the eBay dispute resolution process works, but they're very buyer slanted. Like, I have an idea of why they do it. There's some incentives as to why eBay does it. But they're inclined to listen to buyers, when there's even in the absence of real evidence the buyers might have I've been on both sides, like I bought from eBay, plenty of times, and I've sold plenty of time, but I know from being on both sides how biased they can be and how they rule on certain things. Anyhow, so I sold this machine to a particular lady, I tested it actually had the assemblers video. It's being used before I shipped to her. So I had proof that it actually worked mountains of evidence, buyer gets the item. And I should actually backtrack here, this machine, it's a commercial kitchen equipment. So it's not something that the average person can plug into their home outlet in a work that requires a certain amount of amperes and voltage to work. And because I understand this, and I like to make sure people get what they need. I was painstakingly clear and most of my listings about certain things that required a specific environment. And with this machine, it required a certain electrical environment. So I put that in bold, like do not buy this, if you don't have XYZ, when people are trying to buy it because they don't sometimes they don't understand electricity, cetera, et cetera. Anyhow, so lady bought it, you cleaned it, it didn't work. She described the symptoms of what was happening. I knew just by listening to it, they said she probably didn't have the right electrical environment for it. Anyway, I told her, alright, you can return it, you have to abide by the return conditions, which means you have to pay the shipping back because this is like an 80 pound machine. So it cost a lot of money to ship. Anyhow, she, we had some back and forth, she told eBay that the machine didn't work. And despite mounting mountains of evidence that I sent to eBay showing that the machine worked, they sided with her. And they were going to stick me with a bill of not only paying to have it returned to myself, but to give the lady or money back, but it's like you've already used it and etc. Anyhow. So rather than just settle with what eBay was telling me, I have to pay XYZ to resolve this problem. I'm like, You know what, I'm not going to deal with this. I decided I'm going to write to the New York Times, there was a particular column that used to run called the Hagler who's like a consumer fair, or Yeah, I used to love reading his stuff saying, I'm creative. Let me come up with a solution. So I write to the guy pitch on the store. I said, Listen, this is what happened. I think it'd be a great story. Your readers are gonna love reading this. And he went forward. He's like, Yeah, this is actually really good. So I told him the story. He ran the story in The New York Times. It was like the front page of Business Times that particular Sunday, that Monday, like two or three eBay execs call me trying to solve the problem. Now, all of a sudden, they've got I've got their attention now. And eventually the problem was solved, which was good to my satisfaction. And another coup that I really appreciated the Agler he did, he actually did some research on me. And he mentioned my book in the I didn't even tell him I had this book. He mentioned my book, I guess, because the title is particularly controversial attention grabbing title, the book is called no doesn't always mean now that required a subtitle strategies for influencing behavior and winning cooperation. So it was a nod to one of Dale Carnegie's famous books, and it was and he mentioned the book and the column which was nice. I got some attention for that. But that's just one story related to the wholesale business. This is a whole bunch things like I've been in it for years, researching how to find certain sellers, both US and international. I've got have a bunch of like research and skills related to that I've helped other people do it in some aspects. So that's just one story of many a thought would be useful. Michael Hingson 25:09 That's pretty cool. Well, at least it did get resolved, and you found a real creative way to make it get resolved, which was, which was, of course, a good thing. Kene Erike 25:18 That's what I tried to do. I never feel like I'm boxed in, like a lot of people feel like, Oh, well, you can't do this. This is how it's always been done. Like, why, why? Why can't you do? You start asking why started letting your mind run the gamut of potentials, and you'll come up with all sorts of solutions. That's really what I help a lot of my clients do, as well as like, people told you this couldn't work. Why? Let's examine that. So. So, Michael Hingson 25:41 you know, as a as a guy who's also been in sales, pretty much my whole adult life, I could make the case, I've always been in sales, because there's a blind person I got to sell to convince people to let me do stuff. But I've been in professional sales. Yeah, I've, I've had some really great sales stories. I had one situation where I was going to Pittsburgh to meet one of our customers who had sold a lot of products to, I only ever known him on the phone. And he had placed an order. And I was going to Pittsburgh, coincidentally at the time that the order was to ship to him. And it was supposed to actually arrive the day. I left. I guess the day I was to get to Pittsburgh. And know the day I left. And so I had left California to fly. And he called ticked off because the product hadn't arrived and they had an urgent need for it. And we had committed to getting it there by a certain date. And I had actually gone down the day before to the shipping dock than touched the box and send now this is going to Dale at Westinghouse in Pittsburgh, right? And they said yes, all set up. Well, I left and I told him I actually left him a message I went down and saw it on the dock. So the the day that I left, he called and spoke to one of my colleagues. And he said, Hey Hinkson said that he went down and saw it on the dock and my my friend started laughing all over the place. What do you mean? He said he saw it on the dock he's blind saw really pretty hilarious. When I got there, you know, he said, What is this? And I said, look, look it up in the dictionary to see is to perceive I went and touch to the box. Well, it turns out, the President decided there was somebody else more important than Westinghouse that needed the product. And he stole it away, which is something unfortunately, that they were prone to do sometimes. And so it was a little bit frustrating. We dealt with it. But you know, sales is really fun. And you get to see all sorts of human beings and you get to see all sorts of people. And what a great learning environment. I like you I'm a great Dale Carnegie fan. In fact, I learned to sell by taking the Dale Carnegie sales course. Kene Erike 28:05 Oh, yeah, I've heard good things about it. So I won't blame you there. But so how did you actually find out who took it or No, Michael Hingson 28:13 I don't know what customer. But apparently somebody said that there was someone who absolutely was desperate to get this product. And so he reallocated the president of our company reallocated the product. So it didn't go to my customer went somewhere else. So I don't know where it went. But then they built something and got it to him the next day, but still, it was a day late. Yeah, I mean, it was. It does, except fortunately for me, I was in Pittsburgh, and so I was also able to help deal with it. Kene Erike 28:44 Okay, you're able to modify him. So that's good. Yeah, Michael Hingson 28:47 yeah, we were we were pretty good friends. We had been working together for more than a year. But still, it's really frustrating when, when those kinds of things happen. Kene Erike 28:56 And as you want, it seems like it's out of your control. Michael Hingson 28:59 Well, and and as you said, it's all about why and how do you deal with it? Well, you can't just ignore it. And so you learn how to deal with those stressful situations without getting stressed. And that's the big issue, of course. So you went in from wholesale and the kinds of things and the development that you were doing. So what exactly do you do today? Kene Erike 29:23 So I do leadership development with a number of folks in organizations, I actually specialize. I have a special cadre of folks that I work with in the neurodiverse community. So folks and families impacted by ADHD, Asperger's, autism, other challenges that I work with and both with helping them find and land jobs that feel like they're made for them. Giving them certain strategies to connect with people socially in a way that's authentic for them that allows them to achieve a lot of their goals, as well as understanding that? Well, I'll say is this is that that neurodiverse areas very under served population. A lot of people don't recognize, like there's resources needed there. And there ways that folks can help. And I was always something that caught my eye in the last few years. So for the last four or five years, I've been working with folks in that area, as well as other corporate clients and individuals who just looking to, as you mentioned, find ways to relieve stress related to better ways of working on the job, better ways of connecting with people around them, whether that's like, I want to form better relationships with my family, I want to find my ways into relationships that jive with who I am not feel like I'm being taken advantage of, or I'm not going to be safe and secure. Whether that entails using your skills to grow a business, like what sort of talents and abilities would match best with what areas coming up with solutions and strategies for that. So that's a lot of the work that I do both one on one and group coaching, and workshops for folks. So what, Michael Hingson 31:15 what got you involved in? Why did you decide to work in the neurodiverse and neurodivergent kind of environment. Kene Erike 31:23 I've always had an interest in solving people related problems. And I just noticed that just from casual interactions with other people that's like, there's a lot of this population that people don't really understand. Well, you know, they don't take the time to, they just have like, we all have our own issues and problems. So we don't have time to worry about what the next guy is doing. But I just noticed that a lot of the talents and abilities that I've been working on can be useful for helping other people just like someone who's always spent spent years cooking, they take for granted that a lot of things they do well, other people would pay, and really could use as value like someone who loves to cook and is a great baker. There's lots of people who are on the lookout for that, I'm going to give you a name, I'm going to shout this lady out because I just met her in the last couple of weeks. Her name is Alicia Davis, Granny's cookie jar.com, I'm giving her free advertising, because they're very nice people around her husband in Houston, Texas, they do a great job with desserts. And she's She's grown up her own life cooking. That's just an example of someone who can use their value to provide value to other people. And she makes great desserts. I can't recommend them enough, I'm actually going to order more at a certain time in order to live in Texas. But I will say is regards to my own journey. I just noticed that a lot of the things that are challenges in that particular area, and that neurodiverse area, I think that not only do I enjoy working on, but I generally have an interest in the people that I converse with. And I have like a stake in their own success. I like to see them succeed. But that's one of the things that drew me there. Because there's always people, every single person on this earth has some talent or some proclivity that can be developed and useful for someone else. And if you find ways that you can ply this trade, all the better. I've noticed that that's a particular area that really speaks to me and I can provide value to so I've been working on that for the better part of five years in that area. Michael Hingson 33:42 Well, as long as we've started down the road, does she ship? Kene Erike 33:47 I'm sure she would. I mean if you if you pay or whatever it costs to ship from Texas to California, whoever's listening wherever you want to get your stuff shipped to I'm sure like there's he's a business lady. I'm sure right. arrangements can be worth that. Michael Hingson 34:03 We'll just have to go investigate. It is Christmas, you know? Kene Erike 34:08 Yes, exactly. Michael Hingson 34:10 And kind of cooking on good cookies are always worth good cookies are always worth having. Kene Erike 34:15 Yeah, not just cookies. He's got a lot of other things there. I could tell you, but it's better if you're curious to go check out the other desserts there. So Michael Hingson 34:22 we will sounds like a lot of fun. But so you've been doing this leadership development coaching primarily in the neurodiverse world. But you've been doing that for five years, you say Kene Erike 34:34 with the neurodiverse community, the better part of four or five years but I've been doing work related to both leadership and personal development in some capacity. I want to say since I was a teenager, I was using it and how I sold my goods online like I've used that not only would I create, like, I create recipe books, strategies for people who are buying from me, especially machines like, Okay, this is how these are the six most type, most popular types of doughnuts that are being sold right now, in your area. I've send these people these kinds of documents, as well as if they had any questions about how to use the machine. Other things they can buy that could be abused, like I had other accessories that I created, like a fan that might go on the donor machine that cool it down. And that's how some like coaching would find its way into other business as well as personal coaching I do with other people I know, like, we work on certain things like, Hey, I'm dealing with XYZ problem. Let's brainstorm how to solve it. So I've been doing that work in some capacity for a number of years. But I would, I would say I've been, I've had this specialty and neurodiverse community for last four or five years, but other work as well. Michael Hingson 35:48 So in in all the things that you've done, you're you're clearly pretty successful, you're a person that values really exploring and trying to make things happen the right way. But have you ever been confronted with some real adverse kind of situation? And how did you deal with it? Kene Erike 36:08 Well, I'll say first of the first part of your question, I'm definitely growing like I have any advice, I'm always willing to listen, as like, we're, I'm continuing to elevate, but I need to do more. So and I just know by being willing to listen, meet new people that will continue to grow. to your second question. Yeah, I've actually, I had a number of challenges. But I'll give you a long story. And when I tell the story, and I can't summarize it, you realize after I tell the story, why couldn't summarize it, but I'll give you my take me like 10 minutes, but I'll give you the entire story of a particular challenge. So is that cool, Michael? Michael Hingson 36:46 Sure. I may interrupt and ask a question along the way, just to break it up. But sure, go ahead. No Kene Erike 36:51 problem. So we're going to flashback to January of 2018, I had this pain develop my right calf. That pain was bad enough that couldn't stand, let alone walk without extreme pain. So I tried to stay off my feet for a few weeks. And as I was doing that, I was doing some rehab work on my leg as well. And my legs started to feel better. So I said to myself, you know, let me go start exercising again, because I like to exercise regularly. I hate to be sedentary. So first day out, do a little 20 yard jog, and I feel like I'm going to collapse. Like I just run a marathon. And for me this is abnormal, because I regularly sprint on the yard distances. So jogging is nothing to me. But I figured, hey, I just haven't worked out in a few weeks, I'm probably just out of shape, no big deal. So a couple days later, I go to a football game that I regularly plan. And I catch a couple passes on the first drive of the game. And I'm really winded again, but I'm like, it's no big deal. That's part of the conditioning process. So the second drive of the game cubies like Alright, can we're gonna burn over here for a big play. So he calls the play. I run the route, he makes a great throw, we connect for like 50 yards or something. And I get up and I can't catch my breath. And I'm dizzy. My heart is racing. And at some point when I'm walking back to the line of scrimmage. I just collapsed right there on the field moves consciousness. And I come to and I see everyone staring at me. I'm like what happened? Like, oh, you lost consciousness. I was like, how long was I out there like you out for a couple of minutes. So I'm like, okay, they call the ambulance ambulance come to check me out. I'm like, I don't want to spend all day in some emergency room waiting. You can just check me out here. I sign a waiver or go to urgent care when I get closer to home. That's what they did they check me out. Next one, I go to urgent care. And the doctor runs some test. And they tell me no, we can't figure out what happened to you. You should go to the emergency room. So I go to the emergency room. Doctors there, run some more tests. And they tell me we can't figure out what happened to you either. And we actually don't think it's safe for you to be walking around. We want to check you in. Now I was a little startled because I wasn't expecting some overnight stay but figured Better safe than sorry. I'll just agree roll with it. So I check in next morning, doctors wake me up and they tell me Well, we ran some more tests and we figure out what happened to you. You have what's called bilateral pulmonary Ambilight layman's terms what this means that had blood clots in both my lungs and blood clots. And actually one of the more common killers of Americans take out like 1010s of 1000s of people every year. What blood clots do is they impair the organ that they're impacting from functioning at full capacity, which explains why I was having trouble breathing. What doing what for me was no exercise. Not only that I have clotting in both my lungs. I had clotting surrounding my heart and throughout my entire right leg where the pain originated? That's just gonna ask about that. Yeah, yes. So that was the, the genesis of what happened. And doctors told me that the cladding was so severe and extensive that I probably should have died from it. But they said, I survived because I was in good shape, built like a tank. I was flattered by that. But I'm like, God's grace is at play here. Because a lot of times, we'll spare you from things because he's got things left for you to do. So I spend three days in this hospital. And I transferred to another hospital on the fourth day to get more specialized care. And I was in that new hospital for one day before the attending doctor decided to just just charge me. And I remember, I didn't feel that great when he decided this charging, but I knew that not feeling good to be a status quo thing. In retrospect, I know I remember because of some events that happened later, I'm about to tell you about, I probably could have sued the hospital because I could have easily died when I was discharged. But I wasn't in great condition. I think the doctor was trying to get his bed count down. Who knows. Anyhow, so I remember I was discharged around seven o'clock that night, and I go home. And I started feeling weaker and weaker progressively through the night. And I remember I had this pain develop my stomach, as well as making it harder for me to breathe. So I said to myself, let me go to sleep, see if I can sleep this off. And I remember, as I'm drifting in and out of consciousness, trying to go to sleep, I heard two dueling voices in my head. The first voice was like, you're really weak, you're not a pain, you're going to die tonight. This is what this voice actually told me. And I've told people, they say, Oh, you were just hallucinating. It's like, No, I actually heard this voice. And I knew that this voice was the voice of the devil, because the Bible says the devil is accuser of the brethren at these moments in time when you're not at your strongest chance to try to slip his way in there and see if he can't take you out. And I knew this is The Voice, though, because I'm familiar with the voice of God sounds like and all of us can learn what that sounds like by getting a good study Bible. One with annotations in the margins, because a lot of times scripture, especially the King James Version, is difficult to interpret on your own. And it helps to have some sort of commentary help you with that. There are also a number of ministers that one ministers and teachers one can look up that can really break down the Bible into plain English, one I like to recommend is Andrew Mac, aw mi.net, he does a really, really good job of breaking down biblical wisdom so that you can apply it in all areas of life, I can't recommend this stuff strongly enough, he's on YouTube as well. And I'd be remiss if I didn't mention this point, as well. There's a whole spirit realm that exists outside of the physical realm that we can see and touch and hear. And much of what transpires in this world that we can interact with physically, is dictated by what's happening in a spiritual realm. So it helps to have an idea of that. And our minds, our brains were designed by God to manifest what we dwell on, which is why people will think negatively all the time, or we're overly fearful of things. So they see those exact same things come to pass, because that's what you're feeding your mind. This is particularly important when you deal with health related situation because you allow your mind to go too far in the wrong direction that could be it for you. And I was cognizant of this. So when I heard this first voice, I told him to get behind me. And I mentioned at the start of the story, I heard two voices. Now the second voice chimed in and told me yeah, you're not feeling great right now. And you actually have the option of passing away and going to heaven. Let me say that again. This voice gave me the option of dying in my sleep and going to heaven. And I knew was the voice of God, because again, I'm familiar with what the voice of God sounds like. And I remember I had a conversation with him. And I said, I'm not ready to go yet. Two reasons. One, I knew for a family and friends to lose me at that young of an age I was 31. At the time, that would be devastating for them. I don't want them to go through that outside submissions that I had yet to see, come to pass that I wanted to make come to pass. So I said to God, I'm not ready to go yet. What are my options? He said, you want to stick around, this is what's going to happen, you're gonna get up, you're gonna go back to the hospital. And as a condition of your survival, you have to share this story with others as a testimony. Hence me going to the 10 Minute version of story because that's what I was duty bound to do way back then I have to share it per my commitment. So I said fine. Deal. I write then I snap back awake. And I get a ride back to the hospital. And I remember it was maybe midnight or 1am or so. So I'd only be gone for a few hours from the hospital. And I get readmitted to the hospital and I end up spending another six days there. High Pass the time there was I watched some bad daytime TV there are no other chance to watch it Definitely a little more and see Moreno, well, I did a lot of reading, I did a ton of writing, because I wanted to fulfill my end of the promise and remember everything that was happening. So I could be able to like now, four years later, to be able to share the story with still crystal clear recollection. I also spent a lot of time conversing with other people in the hospital, doctors, nurses, hospital staff, other patients and visitors. And what I found in many of my conversations with these people is that a lot of people live lives of quiet desperation, where there's some sort of emptiness that's lingering there. Sometimes they try to fill that with watching YouTube, TV, music, partying, stuffing themselves with food, whatever it is the kind of drawn out that silence is saying, hey, is there more. And there's really no substitute for that vacancy inside us, but a relationship with God. And absent that. That emptiness doesn't really go away. And because people don't understand this fact, it often leads them into dire straits. Unfortunately, I'll give you another mini story. While I was in the hospital, I didn't want to lay in bed all day, I was there for a while. So I was like, I need to get up and walk around. Once it was safe for me to move around, I started walking around regularly around the hospital floor. And every day, I would pass by a lady a couple of doors down from me. And there was always a hospital attendee with the desk inside of her room with her. Finally, ask them, what's the deal? Why is there always in a hospital employee in this room with her, and they told me Kene Erike 46:47 the lady was a single mom worked in the legal fields, I still remember names, I sent her an email, way back when. And she was in the hospital because she tried to commit suicide. I don't know what the story was, I don't only spoke to her briefly. But, you know, for whatever reason, she just got to the end of a rope and decided like that was the best alternative for her. And really like this is something that can happen anyone, if you don't have a way of tackling some of the inner demons inside you, you have this emptiness that feels like it's not going to go away people. They just undergo and decide to go through all sorts of drastic action to resolve and could lead to problems. And let me be clear about what I mean by our relationship with God, I don't mean just cracking open your Bible once a week or going to church, once or twice a year, I mean, developing and kind of close relationship, you would with God, the same way you have with a spouse or a really good friend that's close to you. And there's all sorts of value and benefits related to that relationship that'll steal you through tough times. So I ended up saying the hospital for a total of like nine days, nine days or so over two hospitals, stays I got out of hospital in late January of 2018. I had to take medication every 12 hours for the next 10 months to prevent myself from recladding. And that was a whole ordeal had to stick out of sports, a bunch of other things and be very careful about the kind of contact that I had, though still, the blood thinners made you more susceptible to internal bleeding. So to be careful about a lot of things. I finally got off the medication around Thanksgiving of 2018. And I had some blood work done in January of 2019. To get some more answers. The hematologist told me that my blood was now quote, okay, we were never able to get answers as to why I had the class in the first place. It wasn't genetic. I suspect it might have been spiritual or something else. But I would say that is a very long story related to me having to deal with something traumatic as you asked. So that's my answer to your question. Michael Hingson 48:57 Well, you know, I appreciate the story. And I value it and agree with you. And the relationship with God is certainly something that we talk a lot about. What most people never do is take the time just to get quiet and listen, and really think about what is occurring in their lives. Listen for guidance to evaluate what's going on in our lives. We think we have all the answers and the reality is most of the time we don't because we don't listen to get the answers. My favorite example of that is I love to play Trivial Pursuit. Kene Erike 49:40 Okay, all right, fun game. Michael Hingson 49:42 And how many times and I gather you play Trivial Pursuit. Kene Erike 49:47 I played it. I think one time my entire life, but I don't know Michael Hingson 49:51 the concept. But the concept. Yeah. How many times do you think that someone is playing the game and Someone asked them a question. And the answer flashes in their mind. And they go, No, it isn't that it's this, they give the wrong answer. And they didn't listen to what their heart said. And it happens a lot. It happens a lot. And it's one of those things where we don't learn to listen to the voice in us. That's, that's guiding us. And we've talked about that on this podcast before. And I don't think that's crazy. I don't think it's hokey. The reality is, one of the things that I've begun to do of late is to start to write a book. And it's now gone to the publisher with our first draft, trying to teach people how to control fear. Because I worked in doing some things prior to September 11, that helped me create a mindset so that I wasn't at all afraid. On September 11, I observed things that were a variety of things that happen. And I've talked about not being afraid, but I've never taught people how to not be afraid, or I should rephrase that, how to control their fear and use the fear in a positive way, rather than as I put it being blinded by fear. And it's all about in large part listening to your, your guidance, the voice in you, the voice that's around you, and really recognizing that you can truly move forward. And you can truly go through this world without being afraid and have a meaningful life if you look for guidance. But it is something that we don't see nearly as much as we should. And learning to control fear is in part, learning to listen to and immediately dealing with what you hear from that voice in you. Kene Erike 51:49 Okay, let me flip roles here and act as the podcast interviewer to help you promote the book, Michael? So can you give us one strategy one can use to suppress fear Michael Hingson 52:04 at the end? Well, it's it's learning to deal with fear not suppressing, but redirecting. And so one of the things that I encourage people in the book to do is to take time at the end of every day, relax, look back at the day, what worked, what didn't work, and even the things that went well, what could you have done to make them go better? And the things that didn't go, Well, why didn't they go? Well, don't beat yourself up over it. Don't become afraid because it didn't work? What can you learn from it, so you won't do that again. And those kinds of exercises and practices, if you put them to use in your life, will help you deal with whatever comes along. And specifically, I deal with the unexpected life challenges that suddenly we get, and we face, September 11 is a perfect example. And the reality is that you as an individual can learn not to be afraid of whatever is going on. Yeah, the building could have collapsed. And there's nothing I could do about that. But the building hadn't collapsed. By the time we some felt the building stopped moving. But other things were going on that told me that whatever was occurring wasn't such an imminent danger to us that we needed to panic. And also panic wouldn't work anyway. Because even if we ran to the stairs and started running down the stairs, and everybody was running down the stairs, people would have been killed. So it's all about internalizing, and really listening to that voice. Kene Erike 53:44 That is a really good strategy and solution, Michael, it makes a lot of sense, especially both the quiet time aspect, and the learning to trust the inner witness within you. I think that's, as you mentioned, I think a lot a lot of people don't realize that's another value of Christianity. Like it's that inner guide with you, within you that Jesus actually put it within all of us that often lies dormant, is awakened and started giving you all sorts of direction and instruction, especially in times of fear. So I actually look forward to seeing that book. What's the title? Michael Hingson 54:22 Well, the working title right now is called a guide dogs Guide to Being brave, because we talk a lot about working with animals and so on as part of it, and then having had eight guide dogs got to have the dog influence in there. So it's, it's important to, to have that in there. So whether that will be the final title when the publisher is done with it. It's hard to say because when we did thunder dog, my first book, which wasn't number one New York Times bestseller about September 11 In my life, I wanted to call it forward and the publisher said no, we should call it thunder dog because the dog aspect will help it sell more copies, perhaps So, but we ended up calling it thunder dog. And everyone liked it Barnes and Noble put it in their animal section because of that. But by the same token, you know, it did well, and I wasn't so tied to forward that that was the only title that would be acceptable. And so, Thunder dog has done really well, as I said, it has been a number one New York Times bestseller, and it's still out there. And people get it. So that's pretty cool. But it is, it is all about, really us learning and growing. And as what we need to do, we, we don't do enough of that. And we should do more of it. So you, you know you are, are a person who believes in yourself, you're confident about what you do. On the other hand, I don't hear ego in you. I hear confidence and I hear knowledge, what kind of advice or what kind of knowledge can you pass along and impart to people about how to create that kind of a mindset. And in our lives. Kene Erike 56:07 I would say ironically, there was some there was some people in my life who might disagree with the ego thing. But that's what I mentioned. At the start, who I've been becoming has evolved over the last six to eight months with people that are paying attention in my life. So I've learned to kind of call that aspect of me. But I've always been open to learning. And that's one key one best practice or being open to learning in terms of the building competence thing. I myself, I because I I am aware of the insecurities I have and I've had and how to overcome that. So I've had to continue to grow in that aspect, I'd say I can think of four things off the top of my head, that are very useful for building competence and do a lot of things like impostor syndrome. The first one is visualization. The ability to see in your mind's eye, what it's like to accomplish a goal, what it's like to do the things that help you accomplish the goal. And how you can put that visualizations and uses. You don't want to use visualization as like a third party perspective view as though you're watching something on television, you want to first person as though you're seeing it to your own eyes, you want to visualize the steps you need to take what it feels like to accomplish the goal in order to get it done. Because those mental reps are just as effective as physical reps, that's been proven scientifically, I'll give you an example. Say you want to lose this, I'm just gonna say 10 pounds. So that's I, when I hear people make weight loss goals, I don't think they're specific enough, all pounds aren't equal, you're going to look different, losing 10 pounds of muscle versus 10 pounds of fat, or like three pounds of fat and seven pounds of muscle like, let's make your goal 10 pounds of fat loss. That's a really good thing to do. So how would we visualize that? First off, you want to think about the sort of activities that you're going to do. So you're going to change up how you eat, you're definitely going to want to cut down on some carbs, some non fibrous carbs. So these are carbs that break down into like sugar, things like oats, rice, a lot of desserts, you want to limit those, as well as eat more protein, like you want to try to, I think point seven or point eight grams per pound of body weight. So let's say you were 100 pounds, you want to try to get 70 pounds of protein per day. And you want to visualize what it's like to eat the foods that are going to help you lose fat. What it's like to do the exercise is going to help you lose fat, I highly recommend more high intensity stuff rather than slow, steady state, jogging, etc. That's an aside though, and you want to visualize what you'll look like and feel like when it's all said and done. That helps you that's one thing you can do to build confidence. Another thing you can do to build competence is what we call dedicated practice. And that's just not practice where you're going out and doing some action over and over again, this is methodical practice where you're actively working on improving some of your areas of deficiency. So let's say I want to do a better job of hitting a baseball. I'm going out I'm taking a bunch of swings in the batting cage. I'm thinking about my stance I'm thinking about and what I've learned, like as a casual baseball fan, but discipline likes mastery of skills in general. It's not your form is not nearly as important as having a good eyes what pitches to hit which pitches to stay away from especially based on account. So you want to work on I want to be more of a long ball hitter what sort of pitches Am I holding out for? practicing that? What I'm specifically working on a specific skill to get better if I want to be a musician? What kind of chords and scales am I going to play to get better over time, dedicated practice that's the second one that can be used for competence. A third one this is one One that you really don't hear much of, but I think it's a really good idea. It's called Keeping a success journal. So in essence, you have a document that you maintain that has a competence people have given you over the years, the things you've accomplished over the years, and you just write these down, you could say, on March 5 2020, I completed a 5k, and a new time, or just I completed a 5k period. And you maintain this document, not just to show yourself in the future, hey, I was I was able to do XYZ, which can boost your confidence in the moment, and help you with self esteem. But it just gives you a running list of things that you can refer to which is useful. For thing I would say is like, it's an underlying theme of this conversation is, if you ground yourself in something bigger than yourself, Christianity helps here where you understand that you were made for a specific mission, that there exist resources, well within your fingertips, Bible, other Christian leaders that can help you generate more of yourself now than you think you can, that helps a competence when you have something that's bigger than yourself that you're anchored into, you know, a rising tide lifts all ships, I'm attaching myself to the tie that never stops arising, that helps. So that was say those are four things that can help with building confidence. Tackling insecurities, Michael Hingson 1:01:21 going back to your losing weight, you said 70 pounds, I think you meant 70 grams of protein, but that's okay. Yeah, I thought that's what I said like a protein. Yeah. And in a guide dogs Guide to Being brave, we talk about things like treasure mapping, vision, boarding, and internalizing those things. I tend not to journal a lot, but I tend to leave myself a lot of reminders in my echo device, and other things like that. So that I do keep the same things in the forefront of my mind. And I know that that's something that needs to happen. So I've just found those ways to do it. Because even if I write it down in Braille, unless I touch it, it's out of sight. So I do it in a way that it won't escape, you know, I won't escape from it, which is really cool. Kene Erike 1:02:14 That's a really good method to use there anything that that can be used to remind you whenever you need it, whether it's audio Michael Hingson 1:02:19 visual, and internalizing, and, and doing and structuring it in a way where you're really causing your mind to think about it. That's the important part about it. Kene Erike 1:02:28 Exactly. And,

Today's episode features Shanna, Talia, and Nikki delving into the latest student debt news. Our spotlight segment features Alicia Davis and Theresa Sweet, the named plaintiffs in the Sweet v. Cardona case (previously known as Sweet v. DeVos), who provide us with an update on the proceedings. Additionally, we highlight upcoming events for April and share what brings us joy at the moment. Don't miss out on this informative and enjoyable episode. Tune in now! News: Conservative Author Totally Freezes Up When Pressed to Define ‘Woke' (Daily Beast) Florida House Bill 999 won't ban historically Black fraternities and sororities from state universities New College of Florida Is DeSantis's Launchpad for Attack on Higher Education As Supreme Court Considers Student Loan Forgiveness, States May Expand Their Programs (PEW) Q&A: The New Student Loan Income-Driven Repayment Waiver (Nerd Wallet) SoFi Bank sues to block Biden's student loan payment pause (AP) References: Apply for Borrower Defense Reddit: r/BorrowerDefense Borrower Defense- Student Loan Discharge (Facebook group) Loan Discharge: Corinthian Colleges/ Heald/Wyotech/Everest (Facebook group) Borrower Defense – Sweet v. Cardona (Facebook group) Restore GI Bill for Veterans (Facebook group) A.I. Confidential (Facebook group) Debt Collective events Corinthian 15 BIDEN JUBILEE 100 Harvard Law – Predatory Lending and Consumer Protection Clinic What happened to Florida Metropolitan University Understanding Master Promissory Notes Before Taking a Federal Student Loan Revised Master Promissory Notes for Direct Subsidized Loans, Direct Unsubsidized Loans, and Direct PLUS Loans How College Enrollment Contracts Limit Students' Rights Case – SWEET V CARDONA Case – PRATT V. CARDONA Documentary –FAIL STATE Betsy DeVos is giving defrauded student debtors the back of her hand SCARED TO DEBT SERIES Events: Theater Activism Troupe, April 10, 17 & 24th. 4:00 pm - 5:00 pm EDT New Member Call Apr 17, 2023 8:30 PM ET / 7:30 PM CT / 6:30 PM MT / 5:30 PM PT Jubilee School Carceral Debt Series: Cars, Poverty, & Incarceration Apr 20, 2023 5:00 pm - 6:00 pm PDT

This week's guests, Alicia Davis and Theresa Sweet are named plaintiffs in the case titled Sweet v. Cardona (formerly Sweet v DeVos). They celebrate the lawsuit victory that affects 264,000 borrowers who had pending borrower defense applications as of June 22, 2022. They discuss their activism, the support groups they have started, and what this victory means for them. References Apply for Borrower Defense Reddit: r/BorrowerDefense Borrower Defense- Student Loan Discharge (Facebook group) Loan Discharge: Corinthian Colleges/ Heald/Wyotech/Everest (Facebook group) Borrower Defense – Sweet v. Cardona (Facebook group) Restore GI Bill for Veterans (Facebook group) A.I. Confidential (Facebook group) Debt Collective events Corinthian 15 BIDEN JUBILEE 100 Harvard Law – Predatory Lending and Consumer Protection Clinic What happened to Florida Metropolitan University Understanding Master Promissory Notes Before Taking a Federal Student Loan Revised Master Promissory Notes for Direct Subsidized Loans, Direct Unsubsidized Loans, and Direct PLUS Loans How College Enrollment Contracts Limit Students' Rights Case – SWEET V CARDONA Case – PRATT V. CARDONA Documentary –FAIL STATE Betsy DeVos is giving defrauded student debtors the back of her hand SCARED TO DEBT SERIES

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Creation is a divine characteristic. Are you a creator in your life and of your life? If you feel you could use some guidance in this area, take a listen to this episode. You will leave feeling uplifted and with a greater desire to create.   Coach Alicia Davis believes in the importance of tapping into our creator capabilities and truly learning what we are meant to create with our lives. She believes that as we turn to the One who knows us best, our Heavenly Father, we are able to not only create ourselves but also help the creation process of those around us.  For more information about Alicia and for links to access all she has to offer, please click HERE! Watch this interview on YouTube, HERE. To continue the conversation with Alicia, please join us on Clubhouse February 24th @1pm MST. Click HERE for the link. For more information and available downloads, go to: https://ldslifecoaches.com/ All content is copyrighted to Heather Rackham and featured coaches. Do not use without permission.

This week we welcome a dynamic duo to the set! Candace M. Blue and Alicia Davis of Houston Luxury Living, stop by to share some of their best-kept secrets for success! Don't miss this highly energetic, highly entertaining episode! Special Thanks to Jeff Whitespeare and Amanda Whitespeare of Cityside Houston

On this week's program, hosts Ann Baldwin and Lisa DeMatteis-Lepore speak with Alicia Davis, Professional Certified Coach (PCC) for Transformative Leadership Strategies. Transformative Leadership Strategies, LLC (TLS) provides coaching support and leadership development services to individuals looking to increase their personal fulfillment and improve their leadership skills. Alicia talks about the importance of May being National Mental Health Awareness Month, emphasizing physical, mental and emotion well-being. Tune in this Sunday to hear more from Alicia about signs and symptoms of Covid fatigue, and the difference between self-care vs essential-care.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week’s guest, law enforcement professional Alicia Davis, talks about her multi-year journey to discharge her fraudulent for-profit student loans through the Borrower’s Defense to repayment. Read More

The Love Horrors comedy troupe (Alicia Davis, Morgan Anderson, and Emily Pedersen) joins Johnny  to discuss transitioning from stand-up to sketch, being creative in a pandemic, and what they miss most about performing live. Johnny also gives an update on his upcoming comedy album on Stand Up!

This week on The Family Ties, Kelley and Julia sit down for an interview with Alicia Davis. Alicia is the mother of 12-year-old James "Alex" Hurley, who was tortured and murdered by his grandparents, James Sasser, Jr. and Patricia Batts, and their 14-year-old son, J.S.Kelley and Julia ask deep and serious questions to learn more about this James Hurley, the events that led up to his murder, and how homeschooled children oftentimes become victims of neglect, abuse, and violence before law enforcement can and should step in.Don't miss this true-crime podcast episode!Support the show

He's a business man, but she's a free spirit. Are they gonna end up together?? Or are they both just sociopaths. Special guests Kate Malone and Alicia Davis

Alicia Davis, Remy Clio and I discuss the worst Halloween movie in the franchise

Alicia Davis is back!  Her third time on the podcast really was a charm.  Please enjoy this episode with my very dear friend Alicia, we talk all about Love Horrors, comedy, and much much more.  Episode 68, here we go!Love Horrors on The GramLove Horrors on YoutubeComic Talk on The GramComic Talk on YoutubeMento Buru on Youtube

Safety Professional and mommy to be, Alicia Davis catches up with Mining Minds to walk us through her mining journey. Alicia discusses her many intern stories and we are not sure we captured all of them, but had a fun time walking through that part of her journey. She tells us how she almost left the mining industry but ultimately faced some personnel challenges and stayed in the industry. Join Mining Minds as we welcome Alicia Davis into the studio.     Rockwell Industrial and Mining  Working Athlete Motor Mission Machine and Radiator  Feedspot 

They say Comparison is the Thief of Joy. Well that is not case when it comes to our next two guests, Alicia Davis & Trio Springer. Alicia and Trio are the hosts of our new favorite podcast called “You've Got This Sis”. Like us they are two friends who are having fun together creating uplifting, fun, and inspiring content for their listeners and viewers. As a matter of fact it was Alicia's video about Comparison that inspired our chat. It was so much fun! We are BIG fans of theirs now and we know that you'll be, too. Grab your favorite drink and snack and then sit back and enjoy getting to know them just like we did. You can get to know Alicia and Trio on your favorite platforms: https://www.facebook.com/youvegotthissis https://www.instagram.com/youve_got_this_sis They say Comparison is the Thief of Joy. Well that is not case when it comes to our next two guests, Alicia Davis & Trio Springer. Alicia and Trio are the hosts of our new favorite podcast called “You've Got This Sis”. Like us they are two friends who are having fun together creating uplifting, fun, and inspiring content for their listeners and viewers. As a matter of fact it Alicia's video about Comparison that inspired our chat. It was so much fun! We are BIG fans of their's now and we know that you'll be, too. Grab your favorite drink and snack and then sit back and enjoy getting to know them just like we did. You can get to know Alicia and Trio on your favorite platforms: https://www.facebook.com/youvegotthissis https://www.instagram.com/youve_got_this_sis https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/youve-got-this-sis/id1512999238

Alicia Davis is about to make her debut as a Producer with her show Love Horrors.  Listen to Alicia and I talk about Love Horrors, Dope Rooms, and finding the right people at the right time.  All this and more on this episode of Comic Talk The Podcast, here we go!!!!!

On this week's program, host Ann Baldwin and Guest Co-host Beth Connor speak with Professional Certified Coaches, Alicia Davis and Stacie Watson of Transformative Leadership Strategies. We discuss the many ways that having a “coach” can be beneficial both personally and professionally.  From improving company culture, to helping individuals reach their full potential, they explain how their innovative and experiential coaching, teambuilding and training works See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What a night!  I'm so blessed to have such amazing and talented friends.  Tonight I gave the stage to two really good friends of mine and they returned the favor by delivering great sets and then sitting down and sharing with me why they love doing what they day.  Please enjoy the latest edition of Comic Talk The Podcast with Alicia Davis and Tina San Lucas.  P.S I love these pics of Alicia and Tina!!! 

The founder and CEO of Cubicles and Curls Alicia Davis joins the show to discuss a very important topic: what to do when you're unemployed. She also relates her own experience with unemployment and shares effective advice regarding how to handle it. Connect with Alicia: LinkedIn, Cubicles & Curls website, IG, TwitterConnect with us! LinktreeTRANSCRIPTZach: What's up, y'all? It's Zach with Living Corporate, and you're listening to a special B-Side. For those of you who are new here, B-Sides are essentially episodes we have in-between our more formal episodes, and they are even somehow more lit than our regularly scheduled content. That's right, more lit. Now again, this B-Side is special, because we have Alicia Davis, CEO and founder of Cubicles and Curls. Alicia, please introduce yourself.Alicia: What up? This is Alicia. I am the creator and founder of Cubicles and Curls, which is a blog or blog, you know, platform, for black professionals doing their natural hair thing, doing their career thing. We talk about hair care, we talk about hair styling, we talk about career advice. The whole thing.Zach: Come on, now. That's right, and it's special also not just because Alicia is here--that's plenty special of course, but because we're doing, like, an interview/collab episode. That's right. Alicia, why don't you walk through how we're gonna do this today?Alicia: All right. So today's episode is something that I felt was very important to talk about, 'cause we don't talk about it enough. We're talking about what to do when you are unemployed, and that could be, you know, you got fired, laid off, underemployed, you know, just haven't found a job yet. [Everyone?] goes through it at some point in their life, and we really wanted to get into the whole nitty-gritty of how that feels, what to do, how to look for a next job, and, just, you know, letting you know it's okay and it happens.Zach: That's a great subject. I'm excited about this because--you know, labor statistics show that non-white professionals are more likely to be unemployed and more likely to be unemployed for longer stints of time, so it's really important that we, I believe, have this conversation. Have fun with it of course, but really just address it, and address it courageously, because it's part of your career journey. And there's a quote here. Do you want me to read it or do you want to read it, Alicia?Alicia: Sure, I'll read it if you're talking about the Anna Wintour quote.Zach: Yes.Alicia: So Anna Wintour, who is the editor of Harper's Bazaar--sorry, no, I think she's the editor of Vogue. She used to work for Harper's Bazaar, and she said, "I worked for America's Harper's Bazaar. They fired me. I recommend they all get fired, because it's a great learning experience."Zach: For sure, for sure, for sure. So right, we want to talk about our experiences of losing jobs, what we did during unemployment, and what we did to find a new job. So Alicia, do you want to start or do you want me to start?Alicia: Yeah, sure. So I'll start.Zach: Okay.Alicia: You know, I would like to say that I've probably been unemployed a total of three times, under different circumstances. You know, once when I was in college. You know, another time it was just kind of, like, an issue of lack of work. You know, the company had to downsize. And another time I actually got fired. So, you know, those experiences really resonated with me, because, you know, something that I think we're ashamed of a lot, and one thing--when I was going through that at first I was just so down, but once I got out of it I kind of saw it for the gift that it was at that time.Zach: Yeah. No, for sure. So I was thinking about this--as we met of course and you proposed this topic, I was thinking "Okay, so I don't think I've ever been fired," right? And I haven't really ever been, like, asked to resign or anything like that either, but I do remember in college just not having a job and desperately wanting a job, and that journey of, like, getting into the workforce for the first time for real and trying to, like, prepare myself for a real career after college. I also remember--though I did not get fired and I wasn't asked to resign, I do remember quitting a job because the environment was so toxic, right? It was super racist, and I was getting called out on my name and threatened and things of that nature, which was, like, genuinely a dangerous and toxic environment, and I remember for about 3 or 4 months I was just, like, freelance consulting. I remember that, and that was a major part of my learning journey as well. So I'm excited about this for sure. And so then what did you do to find a job? Like, in those instances--Alicia: [inaudible] fired?Zach: Yes.Alicia: Oh, sorry.Zach: No, go ahead.Alicia: I said not everyone's been fired, but I think everyone faces unemployment, either after college or underemployment, you know? Sometimes things just happen where you're in-between jobs or, like you said, you quit 'cause you just can't take it anymore, and so I think at some point everybody goes through one of these phases where you're just, you know, in-between jobs.Zach: Absolutely. And, you know, something I've also realized is how big--so the gig economy, which is, like, a whole 'nother podcast episode, but in that same vein, contract employment, right, and working through temp agencies and contracting agencies where you're not, like, a--you're not your own boss, but, like, you're working through someone--you're working through an agency that if they don't staff you on a role, then you don't have any--you don't have any paper, right? And there's--that type of work lends itself to being underemployed for months at a time.Alicia: Exactly, and even if you are making paper you don't have benefits.Zach: Right, right. You don't have benefits, right. So yeah, I mean, let me ask you, what did you do--in those seasons of unemployment, what were you doing to find a new job?Alicia: Right. So the first time, you know, when I got laid off, my company was downsizing, you know? It just was a matter of how scared--I had moved out, like, boldly moved out of my mother's house for a year, and I was like, "I have to make ends meet." So, you know, I reached out to, like, my contacts. I was, like, really just kind of nervous about it, you know? And I found a job kind of quickly, just 'cause, like, I needed something to do. So I found a job. It was decent. I was like, "Okay, we can do this." It wasn't really what I wanted to do. It was outside of my field, but it was a job. It had benefits, and I was happy for it until, you know, finally it kind of came out that really that job wasn't gonna be a good fit, and, you know, they agreed it wasn't a good fit. We had to part ways. After that, I was unemployed for a year, but this time moreso voluntarily. I wasn't looking for a job at first because I really wanted to use the time--you know, 'cause prior to that I was unemployed for 2 months, and I was like, "If I ever find myself in that situation again, I'm gonna use the time a little differently." So I used the time to kind of reassess the kind of person I am, what my goals are, work on projects that I didn't get time to do when I was working full-time, and I was really--you know, I had saved up enough, so I was really just working to, you know, get myself ready to work and to come back to the workforce before I started looking for a new job.Zach: So those are great points, and it's interesting 'cause I think, for me, when I took a step away from that really toxic job, I was doing a lot of freelancing, like, contract work and kind of, like, staff agency stuff, and I really had to really take--for me, what I learned and what I really had to really pause and--there was a certain level of intentionality on my side of "Okay, well, before I just throw myself headlong into something else, what do I really need to, like--" 'Cause that was--I probably need to find some healing from that situation, right? And everybody who quits or leaves a job or--you know, it's not that it always is gonna be traumatic per se, but listen, man, leaving a job is hard. Like, even if you leave a job for something else that might be better, you kind of got to wash some of that old stuff off, right? Like, you need to--like, there needs to be a certain part of you that needs to kind of let it go. It's kind of like getting out of a relationship or--to be honest, right? Like, platonic or romantic.Alicia: Yeah, 'cause when I was [single?] I was like, "Am I describing my breakup?" Or "Am I describing when I left a guy?"Zach: And then, you know, also, you know, your living situation and your--you know, your savings and your severance and unemployment insurance, stuff like that. I mean, having those things lined up too. Thankfully for me, when I was doing the contract work and the checks were not as steady because I was freelancing and doing a bunch of different other consulting work, my wife had a job at the time, so--and because of the way that we had budgeted and we lived under our means, you know, nothing went under, by the grace of God, but it's important to think about those things too. So, you know, regardless of what they say, when you resign--when you leave a job, regardless if you leave--if you leave a job for another job or you leave a job just because "I got to leave"--people say "Don't make an emotional decision." Listen, it's always gonna be an emotional decision. You will never be able to, quote unquote, take the emotions out of it. There's gonna be some emotion involved with you transitioning away. At the same time, it's important to think through, like, "Okay, what are my plans once these checks stop," right?Alicia: Mm-hmm, yep. And, you know, to that it's really--one thing I want to tell people is if you're quitting, you need to make sure you have the financial means, but however if you're getting laid off, you might not have had that stacked up, you know? And one of the first things I did when I was laid off, I was like, "Well, can I get--" You know, talked about severance and all that stuff, and I was like, "Can I get unemployment?" And, you know, there's different--I don't know how it works in every state, but, you know, some states you have to have certain reasons. So if you're fired you might not be able to get unemployment, but if you're laid off you could, you know? So really that's a conversation--and it is emotional like you said, but that's really a conversation you do want to have with HR no matter what the circumstances and apply for unemployment right away if you can. If you can't apply for unemployment, you know, what I did too--you know, when I had left the second job that I got after I, you know, was laid off for a year, I actually applied to be an SAT teacher, because I was like, "Well, what other skills do I have?" And randomly I got an email, and it was from Kaplan saying, "Hey, do you want to do SAT teaching?" And I was like, "Oh, I can do that," you know? You might want to--like you said, you tapped into your freelancing. You know, think of some other things you can do with the internet. You know, there's so many opportunities to, you know, make a little money on the side to hold you over until you can find something else. And I really want to stress, you know, utilizing those resources as best as you can. If you're in your home town, you know, you might want to live with your parents. You might want to, like, rent out your apartment, you know, temporarily, Airbnb, whatever you need to do to make sure that you're stable, 'cause if you feel like you're drowning and you're on the verge of, you know, going into bankruptcy, you're not gonna be able to concentrate on getting better and healing.Zach: That's a good point, and it sounds as if really you were having to flex a few different creative muscles.Alicia: Mm-hmm. Yep, that's exactly what happened.Zach: And I think--which leads to another point. You know, not everyone is super creative and, like, industrious in that way, and so I think it's important to talk to people before you decide to leave, or if you know you're about to get fired or let go or there's some type of downsizing, have some trust and confidants around you that you can talk to as things are happening so they can maybe help you kind of navigate or they can point you in the direction of someone who can help you figure out how to--what the next season looks like.Alicia: Exactly.Zach: I know for me--I know for me, when I did leave--and I was depressed. Like, we've talked about mental health and mental wellness on Living Corporate before. I have no shame in saying that. When I quit that job, I was genuinely depressed and ended up gaining a lot of weight, and so--and did not take care of myself, and it took me--it took me some years to, like, lose that weight--and a little bit more, but to lose that weight that I had gained, and it was crazy because by the time, like, another opportunity came up that was, like, a great opportunity, and I got the job, but I wasn't in the best of shape. I wasn't at my best self, and so I think it's important as well, like, when you're in that season, that off-season, quote unquote, that you don't fall off, right? Like, go to the gym. Like, if you have--if you have some type of--whatever your belief system or structure is, pour into your local community. Like, continue to invest in yourself, that way when you show up at the next job you glowed up. Now, again, they hired you, so you have some level of [gold regards?], but for you to be at your best self--'cause I tell you, I regret not being healthier when I started my job, because I would've--you know, I would've enjoyed some things better. When I took business trips, I would have--I would have been more comfortable. I would have been able to explore the cities more, things of that nature, but I wasn't able to because I wasn't--I was not at a healthy--I wasn't physically healthy.Alicia: Yeah. And you know, I want to peel that back a little bit, you know? Like, when I was laid off as well, I was depressed, and, you know, I gained weight. I remember when I did have an interview I couldn't even fit into any of my suits, and I didn't have any money to buy a new suit 'cause I'm, you know, unemployed, but I really want to peel back. You know, a lot of people, when they find themselves in a situation, they do fall into these depressive episodes, and it's really important to--I mean, it's important to let yourself feel the emotions, but you have to tap into your support system, and I think a lot of times why we fall into those depressive episodes is because 1. because of the trauma of what happened and 2. because we assign a lot of self-worth to having a job, you know? I was embarrassed to go to, you know, events or leave the house 'cause I didn't want anyone to ask me "What are you doing? When are you finding a job?" Because I felt so ashamed to just not be having a job for the first time, you know? And I think it's really important. One of the things I did, you know, when I was, you know, unemployed the second time and I was using that me time was detaching my self-worth from what I do to get paid, you know? What my full-time employment is, and I think that's something, you know, a lot of people need their support system and help to get out of, and I think if anything I just really want to stress that part alone, that you are not your job. You're more than your job. Your job is gonna change 20 times over, and you're still gonna be that person you are.Zach: That's so true, and I believe--well, we live in a capitalistic society, and the cost of living is going up, and wages aren't necessarily matching the cost of living as it continues to increase, and so more and more folks are switching from work/life balance to work/life blend, because really our lives have become work, right? By some degree or another. That's why the gig economy is popping like it is. You know, a lot of people are doing full-time jobs and they're also Uber drivers and Favor delivers. Shout-out Favor, shout-out Uber. Y'all are not sponsors, but if y'all hear this, holla at your boy.Alicia: What's Favor? We don't have that here.Zach: So Favor is a food delivery service. It's kind of like--so y'all have Uber Eats, right?Alicia: Like Grubhub?Zach: Yeah, like Grubhub.Alicia: That's what we have.Zach: Okay. Yeah--Alicia: Okay.Zach: Y'all also have DoorDash though, right?Alicia: We do. We just got that.Zach: Listen, they getting all this free pub.Alicia: I know.Zach: But whatever, it's cool. Favor is similar to DoorDash. Anyway, it's hard not to disassociate yourself from what you do that keeps food on your table, but the more you can really align yourself with whatever--your family, your community, volunteer efforts, and things that really keep you going spiritually, mentally, emotionally, that's gonna help you, because if all you are is your job, and you lose your--Alicia: Zach? Sorry, you cut out real quick.Zach: Oh. Can you hear me now?Alicia: Sorry. Yeah, I can hear you now.Zach: Okay, cool. Because if all you have is your job and you lose your job, then what do you have? So it's important that you're always thinking about that, and I think we're in a really interesting season of self-care and mental and emotional wellness. I think those spaces have been rapidly growing over the past 6 or 7 years, especially for black and brown people, and so I think it's important, like, to invest in some things of that nature just while you have a job. Like, invest in those things while things are good, that way you're not scrambling if something changes.Alicia: Mm-hmm. It's all about foundation.Zach: It is, it is. So to your point though about, you know, being laid off or fired, it's not a mark of shame, and really there's only so much about you keeping your job that's in your control, and I think that's the thing about--there's a term when you talk about--oh, yes, job security. Yes, that's the term. So job security is a myth, but most people think "If I have a job, and I'm getting paid a salary, then I'm going to--" Like, "Nothing can happen that's gonna change me from having that job." Like, we are--we buy into a certain level of--we buy into a narrative that our jobs are extremely stable and that having a quote unquote "steady paycheck" is more reliable than, like, being an entrepreneur or whatever the case is, but, you know, the reality is unless you're, like, a VP, like, someone very senior at an organization, you're really only, like, one or two decisions away from you not having a job, right? And it's interesting as I've gotten a little bit older. Like, I'm 29, and as I've gotten a little bit older and I'm kind of moving up the ladder a little bit--I'm a manager, so I'm not in any real--I'm not making no real moves, but I see a few things differently now than I did at--like, when I was an associate or an entry-level employee, because I'm starting to see how things kind of move and push together.Alicia: Behind the scenes.Zach: Behind the scenes, and, like, when I was--and even before my current industry, which is consulting, I was an HR business partner, and I was working with the--like, with the CHRO. I was working with the COO of a start-up, and I was just noticing, "Okay--" There'd be people, like, three or four, five, six, seven levels under him, under me at the time, and in their world they're thinking, like, everything's hunky-dory, it's all great, blah-blah-blah. They don't know, like, their boss is about to get fired. They're about to get moved to a whole 'nother department. And the higher up you go, it doesn't seem like anything to you. Like, you have to really practice empathy as you get higher up because at the higher--it doesn't seem like anything to you, but to them, like, their whole world has changed, and so I'm just thinking more and more about that. Like, if you're an entry-level employee, if you're a non-executive employee, they can make one decision, and you end up moving from Department A to Department G or Department G to unemployment, and it's like that. So there's--it's not in your control. What's in your control is your attitude, your level of gratefulness, and how you show up to work every day, and then--and how flexible you're being and prepared you're being to find that next thing, but I think sometimes, because we buy into the fact that, like, these jobs are promised and that--and that things are just so secure that we can't fathom, or we kind of--I know I did. I'll speak for myself, that I really was shook when I walked away and I was like, "Wait, but I thought this was gonna work out. I thought this. I thought this. I thought that." You know? Am I making any sense?Alicia: Yep, absolutely, and I think that--I really like that emphasis of "it's not in your control," you know? You could have been the best worker, and sometimes it's just a numbers thing, you know? And I feel like once you accept that, you know--if you did your best, fine. If you didn't do your best and you got laid off, you know, really just take time to just learn from, "Okay, what could I change for next time?" I think that, you know, focusing on what you can control really can help prevent you from going into that whole spiral afterwards.Zach: And it takes a while. Like, sometimes it may take--you know, so for me, like I said, I quit that job. I was doing some freelance stuff, and I was underemployed for about 3.5, 4 months, and I've talked to people and they'll be like, "Man, Zach, that is no time." Like, "There are people who are unemployed, you know, 6 months to a year." It happens. Okay, so let's--go ahead, go ahead.Alicia: Well, I mean, speaking of that, you know, we should probably pivot into what do you do when you're unemployed and looking for that next job?Zach: No, that's super true. Okay, so figuring out what you liked and didn't like about your last position and crafting--can help you craft an ideal position and picture for your next job, right?Alicia: Yep. You know, I think a lot of times we either over-romanticize our jobs or over-demonize them, you know? So we're like, "That place was terrible," or "This is the best place I'm ever gonna work," you know? And I think it's really important to really think about what you did and didn't like about that job, and when you're going into interviews or applying to jobs, look for the signs. Again, it feels like I'm talking about a relationship, but, you know, I guess we spend so much time at work it might as well be.Zach: But it is though. You spend more time at work than you do with your family.Alicia: You do, exactly. So, I mean, I guess the same tenets apply here. So, you know, you might have really noticed, "Okay, this is what I enjoy about my position. I enjoy doing these things, and I don't enjoy doing these things." Sometimes I was even able to, like, look at job descriptions, and I could tell "This isn't the place." It wasn't gonna--like, you know, "can work without structure," you know? "Quick on her feet. Doesn't need much direction." And I was like, "So you're basically saying you don't know what you're doing, and you want me to come in and figure it out, and you're not gonna help me at all?" And I was like, "I'm good," you know? Like, you learn how to read in-between the lines after a while. I remember I said to one of my friends, "This job wants me to work 20 hours a day, I can tell." They didn't say it, but I know what "fast-paced environment" and "willing to go the extra mile" means, you know?Zach: Oh, wow. Mm-mm.Alicia: Mm-hmm. They're setting you up to be like, "This is gonna be hard," and if that's not something you want, you know, you've got to read in-between those lines. Even in the interview, you know, we get so scared asking people questions, like, the real questions about these positions, but that's your only chance to figure out if it's gonna be right for you before you get in there. So, you know, ask them, "Why did the last person leave?" You know? "What's the hardest part about this job?" You know? Or "What are the challenges of this job?" Or "Who do you think is gonna be a fit for this?" And be realistic with yourself of if what they're saying sounds right to you.Zach: Those are great--that's just great advice. You know what? Alicia, you should really have, like, a blog or something. Oh, wait! [both laugh] Okay. So no, you're right though, and it's also recognizing what your non-negotiables are, right? So for me, I know--like I said, I quit that one job 'cause it was just super toxic, but I've quit some other jobs too. Like, some of my first--I was working at a major retailer, and I realized that for me--I had to walk away from that job because the scope was way too small. Like, it was focused on a store. That was it. And so I knew that when I quit my--when I quit that job I said, "Okay, I gotta find a new job that's gonna give me more space to be autonomous and be creative and really flex some other muscles that I believe I have," and so a non-negotiable for me was working in the retail industry at a store level. Like, that was a non-negotiable--that was a non-negotiable for me. A non-negotiable was having an extremely limited scope. That was a non-negotiable for me, but you learn that after you reflect and think through what you did and did not like about your last place of employment. There's things I did like from that job, and so I took that things forward as well, but--we're just gonna keep on relationship references. Sometimes we have friends--and if you don't have any friends like this, then look in the mirror and then point at the mirror, and then you're that person--they kind of date the same person.Alicia: Mm-hmm, over and over again.Zach: Right? Over and over again. It's like, "Yo, like, you kinda got, like, a type." "No, I don't. I don't have a type." "Eh, you kind of have a type." And, like, you keep making the same mistakes with this one that you did with this one, so... and I bet your friend, or you if you look--the person looking in the mirror, you probably haven't, like, paused and reflected, "Okay, well, what is it that I like and don't like about this?" 'Cause there seems to be a pattern here. And a lot of us do that in our careers too. It's like--I have people who, like, they are serial careerists. They have--like, they'll take the same job and quit for the same reasons over and over and over and over. So it's really important that you're thinking through what's working and what isn't working.Alicia: Yeah, I agree. I agree.Zach: So this resume/cover letter refresh. Now, that's important.Alicia: Yes. So, you know, I thought my resume was pretty bomb. Like, I think my--I've always had a pretty solid resume, but you know what? I was putting out feelers, and I was getting--like, I was getting phone interviews, but I wasn't getting past the phone interviews, so I was like, "What's going on here," you know? Like, my resume's dope. One job, like, I matched it exactly. Like, and it was a pretty [inaudible] job, so I was like, "How could you not hire me?" Like, I am the one, you know? But what I did was I actually at some point got a career coach, 'cause one I was kind of not--like, I was ready to apply, but I was still feeling a little bruised from, like, you know, past experiences, worried. So, you know, a lot of the times when you're writing these cover letters, it requires you to reflect on your experiences at these past jobs, and sometimes that's causing you to live in the hurt and the trauma all over again, you know? Just writing the cover letter can be an ordeal 'cause you're just like, "Wow, that job was really terrible," and it's coming out into your cover letter how wishy-washy you were about that job, you know? So what I did was I actually got a career coach to rewrite my cover letter for me, you know? Like, I [hired?] her, and she gave me advice. She rewrote my resume, because one thing she said was, you know, "You're listing out the things you've done, but you're not really giving me that, you know, "I'm a star" kind of thing in your resume. You're mostly like, "I did this, I did this," but you're not really telling me "I accomplished this" or, like, "I'm the winner," or, like, "I'm the best 'cause of X, Y, and Z." It wasn't shining, and my cover letter was much of the same, more just listing things that I did but not really, like, spelling out why I stand out, you know? And she was teling me that, you know, I think that comes from a place of you trying to be over-humble, and you're trying to, you know, downplay yourself a little bit because you're bruised. And so, like, getting her to refresh my resume really--honestly, the results were instant in terms of call-backs, in terms of moving on to the next level, in terms of even just changing my interview style, 'cause I realized, yeah, you know, I was kind of--like, I felt like, "Okay, maybe I'm not as good as I think I am," because, like, I had been laid off before, but I was like, "No, I am as good as I think I am, and that was just an isolated incident," you know? And it's really just about your attitude, but sometimes you just need someone else to step in and do that work for you because it's too painful to do it yourself.Zach: Man, I just--I 100% agree. I think the other thing I'd like to add to the idea of a resume/cover letter refresh is a LinkedIn refresh, right? So, you know, LinkedIn is like the--I mean, LinkedIn first of all, as--I'm gonna put my futurist hat on real fast. So as millennials and Gen Z get more into the workforce and they start engaging LinkedIn, it's gonna become--and it has already, if you've noticed, become way more social and, like, almost kind of, like, Facebook in certain ways, good and bad, the point being that it's gonna become an indelible part of your identity, professional and personal. I mean, even if you Google someone's name, their LinkedIn pops up. Their LinkedIn pops up more than their Facebook does, and so, you know, make sure that you have a professional and accurate depiction of who you are and what you want to present on LinkedIn is huge too, because that can have instant results as well. I've seen certain companies--if your LinkedIn isn't popping it's kind of like, "Eh, I don't really know." Like, that can be the difference maker, to your point, between, like, a phone interview and, you know, an actual in-person--Alicia: Yeah, 'cause let's face it, everybody looks everybody up nowadays. As soon as I hear your name I'm looking you up, you know? "What can I find?" [laughs] So either--if you have a generic name you might be safe, but if you don't you better have that LinkedIn popping. And, you know, just real quick on that, you know, make sure your picture is great, or--you know, it doesn't have to be a professional head shot, but it shouldn't be, like, a selfie. It shouldn't be inappropriate. It should look like how you would probably come for an interview.Zach: It really should though. And I'ma say this, at this point--so again, a lot of this speaks to financial privilege and access. Everyone can't afford, like, a professional head shot. At the same time, these cell phones... really?Alicia: Right? [laughs] If you have an iPhone X, just go against a white wall and take that picture.Zach: Take that picture. Get a nice outfit, you know what I'm saying? Get some drip. Okay, side-note, 'cause we're in 2019, and Ade and I, we would insert slang in 2018, but we did not always give context to the slang, and I have--Alicia: Explanatory comma.Zach: Absolutely. And we have aspiring allies and non-black and brown folks who listen to the show, and people will hit me up and be like, "Hey, what does "the bag" mean?" And I'm like, "Oh, the bag is, like, the money and the wealth or the opportunity." Anyway, so drip--for everyone who's listening who doesn't know--so drip is your fit, right? So drip is not to be confused with sauce, which is more influence and swag. One can have swag and sauce but not have drip, and one can have drip but not have swag. So with all that being said, you'll be dripped out, right, in the picture. White background, iPhone X. It'll be great. Now--Alicia: As a friend of mine said, "Drip or drown."Zach: [laughs] Oh, that's funny to me. Yes, drip--Alicia: I think that's my favorite thing I've heard all year. [laughs]Zach: Drip or drown. You better--you're gonna have to drip or drown. That might be the subtitle for this little B-Side, Drip or Drown. That might be the hashtag, #DripOrDrown. And then the last thing, don't let desperation lead you to another job that won't be a good fit. That's real.Alicia: I think that's important, because you know what? I get it. Your bills are coming down. You feel like you need to get a new job ASAP. You really need to take--like I said, just make sure you're making the right decision for you. The money could look good, but, like, if it's something that's gonna make you be working 20 hours a day, and you're not the type of person that likes to work 20 hours a day--if it's something where you're gonna be working from home a lot or you're gonna be traveling, you need to make sure it's a good fit, else you're gonna end up quitting or they're gonna end up letting you go again, you know? Like, you really want to make sure that 1. this next move--a lot of times what people do is they'll start applying to any job. It's not even in their field, you know? But it's like, "Okay, well, I think I can do that." That's when you're getting desperate, and people can tell, you know? You really want to stick to what you want to do, 'cause, you know, you might be at that job for a long time, and if you want to be--Zach: You never know.Alicia: Exactly. If you want to be in consulting but you're taking a job over at hospitality, you imght end up staying there for a year, and now you have a year of something outside of your field on your resume, and you're gonna have to work to explain, you know, how it lines up, 'cause--what I always think is funny is, you know, people are very narrow-minded when they look at your resume, and they're really only looking at your last thing, and you have to do so much explaining. Like, I had a whole major in health care. All of my jobs were in health care except for one, and people only focus on the one that wasn't. And I was like, "I was only there for 3 months," you know? And it's so crazy how things like that--so that's what I'm saying. Being intentional about, you know, your next move, even if it means passing up, like, a bunch of other, you know, could be easy wins, you really want to make sure your next one is gonna move along in your career path and not just pay the bills.Zach: No, I super agree with that. You know, I kind of make--see, now, this is your fault, Alicia, 'cause you brought up relationships, 'cause now I'm thinking about all these relationship jokes. But it's kind of, like, you know, when you--you might have a breakup, but it's cold outside. Like, it's cuddle season, and so, you know, it's like, "Man, I gotta find somebody."Alicia: Oh, no. Yeah, don't get a warm body job.Zach: [laughs] Yo. Don't get anybody. Don't get a rebound joke is my point. Like, you've gotta, you know, find somebody that is going to put a ring on it or that you will put a ring on. I don't know. You know, everybody's proposing to everybody. It's no problem, no judgment, but the point is figure out what is gonna really be stable for you, 'cause--this is two things. First of all, people very much so underestimate time, and underestimate it in terms of how fast it can go by, and the fact that you can't take it back. So to your point earlier, you said about a year in hospitality. Like, you can look up, and you're gonna have--there are people who are like, "I got this job 5 years ago 'cause I just wanted something 'cause I got laid off and I was just trying to find something," and you look up and it's like, okay, this is your job now, and you don't like it, or you've been doing this thing for a year and a half, 6 months to a year, and then you try to interview somebody--you try to interview for what you really want, and people are like, "Okay, well, why were you doing this?" Like, what are you going to say? And not to say that you're stuck. I mean, it happens, but it's gonna take a little bit more work in how you craft your story and convince interviewers that, "Okay, no, I'm really actually interested in this." Now, I would think that folks with a modicum of empathy and logic would recognize that life happens and that we don't always find--land in the jobs that we want, but often times, like you said--like, it's weird. Like, people put on these weird blinders during interviews and don't always think about context and how just things shift and change and everyone isn't the same, but anyway, this has been great, this has been great. Alicia, what else do we have? Before we go--you go ahead.Alicia: Before I go, I just want to ask--the last question was, you know, if you're an interview and it comes up "Why did you leave your last job?" And it's not exactly an easy answer, that's something you want to practice ahead of time, 'cause that's always gonna come up, you know? You know, one of the things I said when I was laid off was, you know, "My company was going in a different direction. We were shifting from the work that I was doing to a different sector, and that's not something I wanted to do, so, you know, we agreed it wasn't a fit and I left." And another job, the one that I was there for 3 months, I told them, you know, it was a temp job, 'cause basically [inaudible]. It just didn't transfer over into full-time, you know? So don't lie, but have some sort of, you know, palatable truth into your interviews, and practice your answers so that you're not coming off nervous or, you know, it feels like there's something shady going on there. I think that's really important, but I do want to stress that most places, at least in New York--you know, your employer--your past employer shouldn't tell your next employer that you were fired, because that would mess up your chances of getting a new job. I think there's some legality to that.Zach: No, that's illegal.Alicia: Yeah. It is, right?Zach: It's illegal, yeah.Alicia: Exactly. So I want you to have that comfort in knowing that, you know, you kind of are getting a fresh slate as long as, you know, you kind of know how you're gonna work it. Don't feel like it's gonna be, like, a scarlet letter that follows you for the rest of your life.Zach: No, that's super true, and it's interesting because you really gotta figure out ways to politicize--not politicize, but politic that answer. So for me, you know, I was at a major retailer for, like, less than a year, and so even now--I'm 7 years into my career, and people will say, "Okay, well, you know, why were you here?" And I'm like, "Well, you know, that really gave me the--" Like, my answer now is "That really helped me baseline some HR knowledge and best practices. However, I realized that the scope of that retailing context was not conducive for my professional development, and so I ended up finding X, Y, and Z," and I just kind of transition. And I think it's also important, now that we're talking about just how you interview and walk through your career, that you have, like, a story and a overarching narrative that you're speaking to. So if you talk about it from that perspective, then you're kind of--you're talking about these jobs as just points in your journey and not necessarily "I was this, I was this, I was that." It's--for me as an example, I'll say something like, "My name is Zachary Nunn. I'm very passionate about people." And so you'll see in my career, as you look at my resume, all of the roles that I have involve people, and then from there I just kind of walk through the story of "I was here, then I was in oil and gas, then I was in pharmaceuticals. Now I'm in consulting," and it makes sense, as opposed to, like I said, having, like, a really segmented story, 'cause that's how people like to--that's an older way of thinking, but just remember we're transitioning now into a much more fluid workforce, and it's okay to be in different places and have different experiences, but--Alicia, to your point, I 100% agree that you have to have some practice and verbiage behind how you're gonna spin that.Alicia: Yep.Zach: Okay. Now, look, this has been dope, and like I said, this is the first one of its kind. This has been pretty fun for me. Have you had a good time?Alicia: I had a great time.Zach: Okay. Before we let you go, where can people learn more about Cubicles and Curls?Alicia: Okay. So you can learn more about Cubicles and Curls on our blog, CubiclesAndCurls.com, or you can follow us on Instagram @CubiclesAndCurls. Sometimes I'm on Twitter, and that's just @CubiclesCurls, but, you know, Instagram is definitely the place where you'll usually find me.Zach: Aye. Awesome. Well, that does it for us, y'all. Thank you for joining us on the Living Corporate podcast. Make sure to follow us on Instagram @LivingCorporate, Twitter @LivingCorp_Pod, and subscribe to our newsletter through living-corporate.com or living-corporate.co or livingcorporate.co, livingcorporate.tv, livingcorporate.org.Alicia: Ooh.Zach: I know. Yeah, that's right, Alicia. We got 'em all. We don't have livingcorporate.com because Australia owns livingcorporate.com.Alicia: Hm.Zach: I know, right? It's crazy. It's crazy. Anyway, if you have a question you'd like for us to answer and read on the show, make sure you email us at livingcorporatepodcast@gmail.com. This has been Zach, and you've been listening to Alicia Davis, founder and CEO of Cubicles and Curls. Peace.Alicia: Peace.

Thank God for the Group Chat EP 032   Judging by the length of this podcast we wanted to spend a lot of time with you this week. Your faithful group chat is back with Lon, Jared and Keith as they converse about this week’s current events. Alicia Davis joins the podcast half way into the show, but just in time nonetheless. Here’s our topics for this week:   Topic   00:14:30 - Kevin Hart Steps Down   00:29:46 - Lauren Daigle Receives Backlash   00:56:44 - Grammy Nominations   01:12:00 - Atlanta United Win the Cup   02:17:48 - Divorce/Cardi B. & Offset   02:43:17 - Cynthia Brown Verdict   The Group Chat   Lon - @lonnopolis Jared - @jpaulsings Keith - @freshheirlife Alicia - @iamalicialynn_

Thank God for the Group Chat EP 032   Judging by the length of this podcast we wanted to spend a lot of time with you this week. Your faithful group chat is back with Lon, Jared and Keith as they converse about this week's current events. Alicia Davis joins the podcast half way into the show, but just in time nonetheless. Here's our topics for this week:   Topic   00:14:30 - Kevin Hart Steps Down   00:29:46 - Lauren Daigle Receives Backlash   00:56:44 - Grammy Nominations   01:12:00 - Atlanta United Win the Cup   02:17:48 - Divorce/Cardi B. & Offset   02:43:17 - Cynthia Brown Verdict   The Group Chat   Lon - @lonnopolis Jared - @jpaulsings Keith - @freshheirlife Alicia - @iamalicialynn_

Thank God for the Group Chat EP 032   Judging by the length of this podcast we wanted to spend a lot of time with you this week. Your faithful group chat is back with Lon, Jared and Keith as they converse about this week’s current events. Alicia Davis joins the podcast half way into the show, but just in time nonetheless. Here’s our topics for this week:   Topic   00:14:30 - Kevin Hart Steps Down   00:29:46 - Lauren Daigle Receives Backlash   00:56:44 - Grammy Nominations   01:12:00 - Atlanta United Win the Cup   02:17:48 - Divorce/Cardi B. & Offset   02:43:17 - Cynthia Brown Verdict   The Group Chat   Lon - @lonnopolis Jared - @jpaulsings Keith - @freshheirlife Alicia - @iamalicialynn_ --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thankgodforthegroupchat/message

The Speaker Sisterhood is a network of speaking clubs for women who want to discover, awaken, and create their voice through the art of public speaking. It's also the company I founded in late 2016! It's a training ground for almost 200 women who are on a journey of self-discovery. In this five-part series, you'll hear from the women of the Speaker Sisterhood as they deliver powerful speeches and discuss the process of arriving at their topic. Their stories are personal, real, and brave. The women are discovering what's inside of them and sharing it with the world. You don't want to miss this series.  In part 1, you'll hear from members Alicia Davis and Beth Fairservis.  Learn more about starting your own club or joining the Speaker Sisterhood at www.speakersisterhood.com. Enjoy! 

In this episode, we're talking to three (yes three!) of Nashville's finest: Joel Parks, Alicia Davis, and Nick Wallace, of @NashDevOps and #DevOpsDaysNashville. Joel Parks is an Account Principal at Contino.io and the co-host of the "Stranger Than Friction" podcast that focuses on the conflict space in Enterprise Software Delivery and Transformation. Somehow, he still makes time for his other roles as an Amateur Radio Operator, Musician, and Audio Engineer. Find him at @joeljparks. Alicia Sepanik Davis of RoundTower Technologies is a Systems Engineer with a specialty in DevOps Enablement. A self-defined Classic Rap Connoisseur, she's also a life-long dog parent and wine enthusiast. She tweets at @SepanikDavis. Nickalaus Wallace is a Cloud Platform Specialist and Digital Business Lead at Dell EMC. A long-time Nashville resident, Nickalaus enjoys live sporting events, live music, and a healthy addiction to golf. You can find photos of Nick standing next to famous athletes and musicians at @NickalausW.

This week, one of our #groupchatgirlfriends goes from listener to co-host and joins Joymarie in the studio for a fun discussion on embracing your authentic self at work. Hey Alicia! Plus, listener questions, rants raves reviews and more! Connect with Alicia: http://cubiclesandcurls.com | @cubiclescurls Follow Us: @joblogues | @cleveoutloud | @heymissparkerr Hit us up: (929) 324-1090 | joblogues.com/askjoblogues See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Mark Langford successful corporate and entrepreneurial experience and coaching training.  He decided to transition out of the corporate world and founded C-Synergy, LLC  to help both people to get clear on their purpose and calling, to develop manageable action plans and to connect and operate from their inner wisdom. Alicia Davis experience in healthcare specializing in the healing arts, stress reduction, mind/body connection, mindfulness practices, and individual and team wellbeing. She brings a unique approach to health, wellness and balanced living Annie Gallagher president of Gallagher Consulting Group. Annie has worked with clients in more than 39 industries to advance missions and achieve profit goals Pamela Yellen financial security expert and New York Times best-selling author of 2 books, including her latest, The Bank On Yourself Revolution: How to Fire Your Banker, Bypass Wall Street and Take Control of Your Own Financial Future.She researched over 450 different financial products and strategies searching for alternatives to the risk and volatility of stocks and real estate For more information go to MoneyForLunch.com. Connect with Bert Martinez on Facebook. Connect with Bert Martinez on Twitter. Need help with your business? Contact Bert Martinez. Have Bert Martinez speak at your event!

Mark Langford successful corporate and entrepreneurial experience and coaching training.  He decided to transition out of the corporate world and founded C-Synergy, LLC  to help both people to get clear on their purpose and calling, to develop manageable action plans and to connect and operate from their inner wisdom. Alicia Davis experience in healthcare specializing in the healing arts, stress reduction, mind/body connection, mindfulness practices, and individual and team wellbeing. She brings a unique approach to health, wellness and balanced living Annie Gallagher president of Gallagher Consulting Group. Annie has worked with clients in more than 39 industries to advance missions and achieve profit goals Pamela Yellen financial security expert and New York Times best-selling author of 2 books, including her latest, The Bank On Yourself Revolution: How to Fire Your Banker, Bypass Wall Street and Take Control of Your Own Financial Future.She researched over 450 different financial products and strategies searching for alternatives to the risk and volatility of stocks and real estate For more information go to MoneyForLunch.com. Connect with Bert Martinez on Facebook. Connect with Bert Martinez on Twitter. Need help with your business? Contact Bert Martinez. Have Bert Martinez speak at your event!    

Mark Langford  25-years of successful corporate and entrepreneurial experience, Harvard MBA and coaching training.  He decided to transition out of the corporate world and founded C-Synergy, LLC  to help both people to get clear on their purpose and calling, to develop manageable action plans and to connect and operate from their inner wisdom. Alicia Davis with over 20 years of experience in healthcare – specializing in the healing arts, stress reduction, mind/body connection, mindfulness practices, and individual and team wellbeing – Alicia brings a unique approach to health, wellness and balanced living. As a certified Core Energy and Energy Leadership™ coach, she provides coaching to a diverse range of clients including:  Executives in healthcare who want to improve team engagement and employee retention; healthcare staff who want to prevent burnout; service providers who are looking to elevate the quality of client care; and individuals who want to shift from a high-stress to a high-energy lifestyle Annie Gallagher  president of Gallagher Consulting Group. Annie has worked with clients in more than 39 industries to advance missions and achieve profit goals. Organizations such as American Electric Power, Cardinal Health, Dave Thomas Foundation for Adoption, Longwood Gardens, Nationwide Insurance, and PriceWaterhouseCoopers engage Annie and her firm to help develop top level executives and strategies Pamela Yellen financial security expert and New York Times best-selling author of 2 books, including her latest, The Bank On Yourself Revolution: How to Fire Your Banker, Bypass Wall Street and Take Control of Your Own Financial Future. Pamela researched over 450 different financial products and strategies searching for alternatives to the risk and volatility of stocks and real estate