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“I've learned the value of culture – if we don't create a culture, the culture will be created whether you like it or not.” Phil Dumontet, CEO and Co-founder, Whole Sol Phil discovered that healthy options for fast casual food that he found in NYC were not available in Colorado – a place with an active and healthy population.  That seems odd to Phil and his wife Alexa so they decided to fix that by using profits from a delivery company Phil bootstrapped then sold to GrubHub, move to Denver, and create Whole Sol – now five locations and growing fast.

The Jason & Scot Show - E-Commerce And Retail News
EP281 - Mark Mahaney, author and top internet analyst

The Jason & Scot Show - E-Commerce And Retail News

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 23, 2021 55:38


EP281 - Mark Mahaney, author and top internet analyst  Mark Mahaney is Senior Managing Director at Evercore ISI, Research Division, he's one of the original and longest lasting internet analysts on Wall Street. He recently published “Nothing but Net: 10 Timeless Stock-Picking Lessons from One of Wall Street's Top Tech Analysts.” We cover a variety of fun topics including the beginning of his career with with Mary Meeker. His initial evaluation of EBay. His long positions on Amazon, Netflix, and Priceline, and butting heads with Jim Cramer over Google. We also discuss what's next for Amazon, and where the best investments of the future might be. Episode 281 of the Jason & Scot show was recorded on Thursday, November 18th, 2021 http://jasonandscot.com Join your hosts Jason "Retailgeek" Goldberg, Chief Commerce Strategy Officer at Publicis, and Scot Wingo, CEO of GetSpiffy and Co-Founder of ChannelAdvisor as they discuss the latest news and trends in the world of e-commerce and digital shopper marketing. Transcript Jason: [0:00] Welcome to the Jason and Scot show this is episode 281 being recorded on Thursday November 18 20 21. I'm your host Jason retailgeek Goldberg and as usual I'm here with your co-host Scott Wingo. Scot: [0:16] Hey Jason and welcome back Jason Scott show listeners. Jason as you and the listeners know I am a huge scene in b.c. junkie and you can't turn on CNBC Durning Earth during earning Seasons without seeing Mark mahaney he is one of the top internet analyst. He was actually on recently talking about the artist previously known as Facebook meta Mark has a new book out called quote-unquote Nothing But net and is joining us tonight give listeners an early peek of what is sure to be the best seller in the bookmark covers some of our favorite companies including Amazon Apple Facebook / meta Google Netflix Twitter and Uber Mark welcome to the show. Mark: [0:56] Thanks for having me on guys. Jason: [0:58] Mark we are thrilled the chat with you is you know Scott is a huge Amazon fan boy so I anytime he gets a chance to talk Amazon he's excited. And I'm super excited because after tonight show I'm going to be smart enough to get rich like you and Scott so that's pretty pretty exciting for me. But before we jump into all that we always like to give listeners a little bit of a feel for our guests background and in your case I know I think you're officially the the oldest analysts on Wall Street is that true. Mark: [1:29] Well that's the oldest and longest lasting internet analyst on Wall Street but I don't look the part so how about we do that yes I've been covering Internet stock since 1998 do a series of bank said I started, working with this tremendous analysts her name was Mary Meeker her name is Mary Meeker and started the first Friday I was on Wall Street I got a call from the CFO of this tiny little online auction company that sold Pez dispensers and was looking to see whether any banks would be interested in their IPO that company was eBay so I wasn't there at the beginning of the internet but I was there pretty close to the beginning of the commercial for the public market to internet and it's been a fascinating ride and I thought there were a lot of lessons I could draw both from the successes the market and failures in the market and my personal successes and failures as a stock picker. Scot: [2:20] Cool what's so name some of the firm's so in my recollection you've probably worked at six firms like how many firms have you worked out over or that career. Mark: [2:30] Yeah now I don't want you to think I you know I jump around too much but I started off at Morgan Stanley also worked at Citibank Royal Bank of Canada. A small boot wonderful Boutique called American Technology research and I'm currently at evercore isi but I've been doing nothing but net. Hence the title of the book that's been my email tagline or always online is one of those two it's been my email tagline for 25 years but nothing but net and that's just doing my best to try to stay ahead of these internet stocks the early ones the the eBay's the Amazons the Yahoo excite if you might remember them infoseek. And then and then AOL and then and then later on some of the more Dynamic ones came out ended up with names like uber including most recently one you talked about Warby Parker so it's been a fascinating span and arguably one of the most dynamic. Parts of Wall Street I guess if you were working as an analyst on Wall Street. Or portfolio manager portfolio manager if you could have picked two sectors to be a part of to track over the last 25 years one of them has to have been the internet just how explosive it's been a been plenty of – explosions in there but there's been some wonderful wealth creation the other sector would probably be software just just too wonderful Industries I got lucky I was I was part of the internet. Scot: [3:49] Yeah I'm glad you didn't pick Mall Focus treats that would have been a bad choice. So you know as Jason mentioned there's kind of this auspicious title that you have of the oldest I would say wisest and most longest lasting internet unless. Tell us about some of the as you reflect in the book is kind of got some really good stories and you've been kind of on the front row seat of a lot of cool stuff maybe tell us what was your worst pick and best pick in the span of the career there. Mark: [4:22] Well I had a sale on Google it close to its IPO I was brought on to CNBC show and told by none other than Jim Jim Cramer that I was an analyst with a three-egg omelette on my face because of my cell phone call he was right I was wrong so you know one doesn't pretend one doesn't tend to forget moments like that on public television being told that you know you're pretty much an ass. But it does happen you know there are axes and then there are you know others and so I made plenty of mistakes I had to buy on Blue Apron although the lessons from that turned out to be different than I thought I got the call wrong but the lessons were different than I thought I kind of dissect that a little bit in the book. So those are some of my some of my worst calls I think my to my three best calls have frankly been sticking with a buy on Amazon for pretty much the last 15 years Netflix for the last 12 years and Priceline and now now booking for. [5:18] For a solid 12 years both Netflix of all three of those were really decades-long S&P 500 Best in Class stocks for a variety of different reasons and in the book I try to call out what were those reasons what were the what's that what's the pattern recognition so that you know we as investors can find the next Netflix and the next Amazon doesn't mean and Amazon and Netflix can't perform well from here but what are the things you can see in common that can help you as a stock picker you know kind of see ahead what really kind of started a lot of the the insights the idea of the book was this wonderful book that was written in 1980 called that one up on wall by Peter Lynch kind of a Bible or primer for anybody really looking to invest invest in the market with some wonderful advice and I really had any wrote it based on some wonderful examples of successful stocks and companies of his generation and I thought somebody needed to write one about our generation and you know these phenomenal money-making we know wealth-creating stocks that have. [6:19] That have soared the charts top the charts over the last 20 10 5 and even two years that have been dramatic dramatic winners from the covid crisis to I try to keep it long term in duration and frankly that's one of the big lessons I have in my book is. Is you know long-term I've found stocks do follow fundamentals they just do companies get bigger more Revenue more profits their stocks go higher almost always that's the case if you're a patient long-term investor so you can make money just investing you don't need to day trade and I think that was the last thing that really inspired me to write this book there about 15 million new. [6:53] Trading accounts that have opened up over the last two years you know the mean Traders the Robin Hood accounts and I just wanted to step back and say look you can have very good returns in the markets by buying high quality companies especially Tech and growth companies you don't have to day trade you can sleep better at night I got plenty of examples of companies that created wonderful. Shareholder returns over time and their stories you can take your time and really understand and stick with and anyway that's it this is this book is a little bit of little bit of personal Memoir but really more of a history of the Great. Companies and the ones that failed and then what are the lessons you can draw to apply going forwards. Jason: [7:32] Got it so I know it's not in your coverage area but you would have a buy on GameStop is that what you're saying no. I Nostalgia requires me to ask though I am staring right now at a pets.com. Puppet still in the box that's like sort of a Memento I have on my on my desk like we're you covering like those guys at the at the. Dot-com boom. Mark: [8:00] No no I didn't but I refer to that in the book and I make this I draw the comparison you know pets.com and smoke you know pets.com went public with trailing 12 month month revenues of 5 million I don't know if you heard that right five million dollars. [8:16] Trailing 12 months they had been an operating company for under two years I mean how that thing got out you know in hindsight is is is pretty shocking but wait a second go you know go forward 15 years and what came out. To e.com chewy.com went public with 3 billion in trailing sales and you knows the same sort of basic value proposition to Consumers it's just that the market was a lot bigger it allowed for a lot more scale and a bunch of other things came out o like cell phones smartphones cloud computing which allowed companies to scale up at much lower costs and so the markets really were proved out at that you know the time of pets.com there were three unknowns is there really an internet Market are there really good management teams and other really good business models today the first question is emphatically yes they are huge Market opportunities and they've been proven in in the Internet space advertising retail entertainment a lot of different ways you can cut it and there's some business models have generated enormous amounts of free cash flow and then there are yes of course there's always a few select excellent management teams who find that right combination it can be it's proven to be a great path to making money in stocks and chewy has been a stock that I've really liked since its IPO even though it's the next pets.com and that's the cynicism that people be placed in front of it when they went public. This was a very different puppy. Jason: [9:39] Yeah it does it seems like timing it seems obvious but timing is such a big. Part of all that you referenced Peter Lynch and I know you know there's. There's all the old Netflix stuff I actually started my career at Blockbuster entertainment and so in my in my industry everyone makes fun of Blockbuster that we got Netflix stand and all those sorts of things and I always have to point out. You know we sold Blockbuster for 18 billion dollars in 1995 like five years before Netflix was invented. Then it was a good business with a good exit you know every every business has it it's it's moment and it's time and you know the the railroads aren't the investment that they once were either. Mark: [10:28] Netflix is a fascinating story so let me let me let me jump to it a little bit you know one of the things the punchline of I asked people if you're going to remember one thing for my book I hope you'll still buy it but if you're going to remember one thing from my book it's dhq it's not DQ That's Dairy Queen dhq is dislocated high-quality companies and. You know time you mentioned timing I was thinking in terms of stock timing I thought those were your going to take us I think it's very hard to the time stocks but you know you can clearly see when stocks are dislocated I either traded off twenty Thirty forty percent so that's usually you know time if you think it's high quality asset and it dislocates them they all dislocate from time to time even the best highest quality names. That's when you can kind of Step In add the positions by the stock knowing that you in a way mitigated some of the valuation risk as investors your tries an investor you're trying to do two things mitigate valuation risk and mitigate fundamentals risk you know the chance that Revenue falls off a cliff margins get crushed the way you mitigate that fundamentals. Risk is to focus on companies with large Tam's excellent management teams great product Innovation and superb customer value prop and Netflix screen so well for me on those four things I'll just take this off super quickly if you don't mind. [11:42] The industry Vision so let's see Reed Hastings invented or started Netflix back in 1997 Netflix the name itself sort of implies that somehow we're going to be doing some streaming thing and this is a 1997 when it would have taken you four hours to download the first five minutes of Terminator like there was no streaming Market there but yet. [12:02] That was the premise of the company in 10 years later you know you look at the first initial interviews with Reed Hastings I mean this is where he was going to take the company all along so I was just giving him kudos for industry vision and the fact that he was willing to cannibalize his existing DVD business first dreaming business very few entrepreneurs can do that so management you know checks My Box customer value proposition the best way to tell whether a customer a company has a great value proposition is do they have pricing power will do people love it so much that they'll pay more for starting in 2014 Netflix started increasing pricing just about every other year and there's some ads accelerated that's a compelling that's evidence of compelling value proposition third is this product Innovation and you know they just don't have a lot of things not just streaming but there's a lot of these little tweaks that the side like binge watching you know kudos to Netflix for just rolling out new series all at once I mean practically invented binge-watching and of course you know they sort of invented the streaming thing or the people who founded music really did that but but Reed comes in a close close second on that and then you know I'm finally in terms of Tam's large Tam's total addressable markets. [13:13] You can add it up a couple of different ways but you know home entertainment video consumption it's it's a couple of hundred billion dollars in total you know Market opportunity and then who knows these things come along like smartphones and all of a sudden the majority of usage is on smartphones that tells you that these markets could be a lot bigger than we traditionally thought just like Spotify blew out the market for what really could be music advertising revenue and music subscription Revenue Netflix is did the same thing with me with Video subscription Revenue they blew up the tan they made it a lot bigger so that's right you know I love that story about the stories about Netflix I gave him a tremendous amount of Kudos I think the sometimes people under appreciate just because it's kind of a singular company just you know video video streaming I think they I think they don't get enough credit for what they've done and what they could still do because I think there's still one more one more trick up Reed Hastings sleeve and I think it's gaming and he's reached they've received such so much skepticism about this pivot or missing expansion in the gaming but you know management team to figured out dvd-by-mail streaming original content International expansion mount give them the benefit of the doubt that they can figure out an Innovative new way. To deliver gaming and therefore further increase their value proposition you'd want to stick with a company like that I stick with the stock like that. Scot: [14:34] Ever kind of a random question let's say there was I'll pick something at random a company that was Reinventing Car Care and making it mobile and digital would you call that a dhq. Mark: [14:45] I think that yes yes absolutely. Scot: [14:51] All right leading the witness. I do have to give you Kudos because in the Netflix section you do have a Star Wars reference you talk about the Disney death star which is which is appropriate because they now own the Death Star it's got a part of there is one of their IPs. Mark: [15:09] But by the way that was you know there were a couple of Netflix there's a rocky stock Rocky stock here that's right that's a that's a rocky stock for you it's had there were two times they miss Subs because of uncertainty over the price increases and they got some pushback it was an obvious that they had pricing power but they proved it over time and then they've got this great competitor risk with Disney and I think what the market missed on that this is just kind of leaving aside the book of just talking about stock picks is you know people are going to sign up for multiple streaming services now not now not five six or seven but they'll sign up for two or three if there's original content and they have original content I mean there's some things you will you have to sign up for Disney Plus for if you if people are like use God and you know dramatic. [15:52] Star Wars fans of course you can sign up for Disney plus but you know there's because its original content if you want to watch squid game there's one and one only place you can go for that and you know there's going to be another squid game or you know another show that just kind of breaks through the site-geist and by the way that's where Netflix is so I'll leave Netflix aside but I'm so struck by is this company shapes the Zeitgeist whether they can cause a run on chess board sales worldwide with the Queens Gambit a year ago where they can cause more people start studying Korean on Duolingo a language app which I actually like is the stock because they can you know they've introduced this show squid games like when a company reaches the Zeitgeist when they when they become almost like a lucky lexicon like they become a verb like I'm gonna google that or you know it's the Uber of this that or that you know that's that's something special and those are usually stocks that have gotten very long runways. Scot: [16:44] Yeah and I'm here in North Carolina and we have all these MBA we have all these universities and I was actually speaking earlier this week at MBA class over at Duke. And you know I have this whole little joke track that I do where I talk about my first company was profitable and I learned I could never raise VC because get the TV season that's a your profit we don't invest in property companies so yeah I often joke that I've been doing it wrong and ever since then I haven't made a dime. And I kind of thought it was those funny because you kind of. The internet sector was kind of early before SAS where and you point this out where there's kind of you know what we learned is there is an investor that loves Revenue growth and in a way that the opposite side of that coin is it can actually hurt you if you start to make profits maybe share with listeners that that you know probably many of them come from traditional businesses where that sounds nonsensical maybe maybe explain kind of what happened there. Mark: [17:41] Well I want to be I want to be on to get nuanced here which is you know I that chapter that says the most important thing out there is revenue revenue revenue you know for tech stocks and growth stock. But of course earnings and free cash flow matter it's that sometimes the public market is a lot longer term focused than people give it credit for Netflix is a great example that also is Amazon. I mean those those businesses had if you look at near-term valuation PE metrics price to free cash flow there's no way you would have bought those stocks. But what I think long-term growth investors realized is there's this you know when these get these assets that can grow their Top Line twenty to thirty percent Plus. From scale for multiple years like that can that creates an enormous amount of value over time and it's so rare I came up with something of a 20% rule you know it's one to two percent of the S&P 500 that can consistently grow at from scale their Top Line 20% which is like five times faster or six times faster than Global GDP growth so it's rare for good reasons but those companies dramatically outperformed the market because they're rare and it's not like growth and scale solve everything but geez they solve a lot of things I've yet to see it's got you know you go way back on this I'm sure you had these comments like Amazon will never turn a profit my first year on the street. [19:04] There's a person who's not one of the most influential investors out there put his finger in my chest. And said you know Amazon will never be profitable and you know I guess he must have been writing he was so smart but he was wrong because he didn't realize just what how powerful Amazon could be as it's scaled over time I mean you generate billions and billions in revenue and you can you can run over a lot of your fixed costs as long as you're not selling dollars for 95 cents you know if you're you know if you're selling them for a dollar and two cents and then you get scale against your fixed cost yeah scale will solve just about anything and I look at what happened with Amazon and I've looked at more much more recently its bring it up to up to date to Uber Uber just printed its first free cash flow quarter ever even though it's Rideshare businesses like down 40% since Pre-K covid levels how the heck did they do that because it took a lot of costs out of the business and then they had this delivery business that really scaled so look earnings matter it's just that when we look at tech stocks and growth stocks you know especially early on is IPOs they rarely go public. As profitable businesses the question you have to answer yourself is can they be profitable long-term are there companies that are already you know similar business models that are already are that's one way or their segments of the business that are already profitable. [20:19] Is there a reason that scale can't drive profitability for the company and the fourth what I call profitability Action question that detail this in a book is yo Are there specific steps steps that the management team can take to bring the product the company to profitability so I've yet to see a company. [20:36] And I'm sure there are some but I've yet to see one that hit the public markets that couldn't scale itself to profitability now some blew up. Well you know that's because they couldn't hit the enough scale so that's that's kind of my answer to the question of yes of course earnings and free cash flow matter at the end of the day that's what they're going to be valued on but just watch these companies that they really execute well they can take what looks like really aggressive valuations and overtime those valuations can turn awfully awfully attractive and a lot of times the stock wealth creation goes from point A to point B it doesn't start at point B. Jason: [21:10] Yeah the you know it's you mentioned then the Netflix. Effect on the cultural zygous fun fun stat on Queen's gamut it drove the sale of millions of chessboard and caused hundreds of people to start playing chess. I do one of the things that comes out strongest in in the book to me and that you alluded to upfront is sort of the difference between trading and investing. You know I always have people come up to me and they're like hey you know a lot about these retail companies what's a good investment and I'm like. I have no idea can you can you talk a little bit about sort of what you mean by sort of fundamental investing versus trading. Mark: [21:56] Well I sum it all up in the pithy expression don't play quarters I find playing quarters is almost a Fool's game the number of times I get questions you know what should I buy for the quarter and for little sophisticated institutional investors that could be I've got a position in. [22:15] Amazon or Google or Twitter and you know do I should I be you know heading into the position prior to earnings or you know facing back and adding to it more afterwards okay that's a different setup but if you're just playing a company for that quarter pop the problem is quarterly earnings reactions there's two things that drive them. Fundamentals great get the fundamentals right that it's expectations so the quarter trades are really about expectations you may get the quarter right you may be right that Nvidia or Roblox are going to have super strong quarters because I see how many of my friends kids are all over Roblox you maybe well right on that but you have to know you know what the market is actually expecting and numbers can go Revenue can accelerate but if the bar is higher than that then you're going to see these stocks trade off it happens a lot so I just unless you're unless you're a pro less you're in day in and day out. You know working working these stocks and really have a sense of where the expectations are. I think it's just a Fool's game to play play stocks just four quarters instead you know you want to stick with stocks for the you know you want to find an asset that you think is going to be. [23:29] Materially bigger in two to three years down the road and you think it's high quality based on some of the screens I threw out then stick with that name and don't try to play around the quarters and it's in fact sometimes you can use weakness or strength around the quarter to adjust your position but don't use it too initiator close out a position at the then you fall trap to these expectations game that is very hard to participate in if you're just a regular you know retail investor and you can make just as much money just staying invested in some of these great assets. Jason: [23:59] That is great advice and it's I certainly resonate with the sticking with the Investments I am curious though on the other end of that on the really long Horizon you mentioned you've you've been had a buy on Amazon for like 15 years. Wait. Like are you going to have a buying them for the next 15 years is that how I mean like does there come a point when they achieve their potential and you have to start worrying about them getting on the other side of the Hill. Mark: [24:26] Yeah I think you can I think you can one look for the fundamental towel and so I'm going to I'm going to spin over to another stock I talked about in the book Priceline. Which is actually the single best performing S&P 500 stock for like a 10 year period 2005 to 2015 phenomenal stock travel name everybody knows it William Shatner excetera although they're real secret sauce with what they did in European markets but. But that's a company that you know sustained premium growth like they were growing their bookings in the revenue 40 percent year over year for years and years and years and years and that's what powered that that that stock and when it stopped materially ah performed Market was when the growth rate decelerate it below 20%. [25:10] And so I don't want to you know create a hard and fast rule but I do feel strongly about this twenty percent rule 20 percent you know we're close to it you know don't don't Nick me at 19.8% you know could close to twenty percent is unusual rare growth. [25:23] And the markets usually pay up for that and when you see a company over time either because of Miss execution it happens or Market maturity and their growth rates you know kind of slide below 20% then that's when you reconsider your position that's a simplistic rule as a lot of caveats to that when I see with Amazon here is despite the size of this business I think they're still growing 20% for the next five years so in that if that's the case. [25:48] You know the simple rule of thumb is companies that can grow like. They can I like to see stocks that can double in in three years in order to do that you kind of have to do you know 20 to 25 percent earnings growth that's what a Maps out too. And you know you can double a stock in 3 years your handily beating the market in almost all time periods. And so when I see what it'll change my opinion really on Amazon is if I believe that this company is going to go X growth it's going to go you know well below 20 percent Revenue growth I just don't see that in the next couple of years given how much growth they have in retail in NE ws and cloud computing and in some of these really newer areas that I'm really interested in whether they really can crack the code on groceries and they can that's a large opportunity and business supplies Industrial Supplies I think that's a very underappreciated part of Amazon's business so I don't see myself changing my opinion on Amazon although you don't want things that we talked about this earlier that I love to see your founder LED companies that's no longer the case with with Amazon so that's you know at some level I've got slightly less conviction than the in the by case but I'm going to stick with it as long as the numbers prove out right and long as I can see this path that's consistent 20% Revenue. Scot: [26:59] Yeah and this is kind of breaking out of the book thing but since you brought up Amazon it wouldn't be a Jason Scott show if we didn't kind of double click on that what did any thoughts on the Q2 and Q3 earnings feels like they're slowing down a bit and feeling some of the labor and see what we call Supply pain on the show are you are you getting nervous about it or you think it's just a little one of their little kind of investment phases. Mark: [27:23] I called the six billion dollar kitchen sink that's how much lower their guidance was for operating income in the December quarter then then what the street was looking for like she was looking for close to eight billion and they guided to billions six billion dollar kitchen sink and they threw it all in there wage inflation you know you right you drive that route 95 on the east coast and you'll see Amazon Amazon is hiring Billboards up and down the East Coast Seaboard I did it recently so yeah they're aggressively hiring at higher wages that's impacting their margins there still some covid related cost shipping they're just not able to a sufficiently source and bring in product and so they have to bring in product into the the ports that aren't optimized for their distribution Network so just a lot of. [28:14] Positive blowing up now the question you have to ask yourself as an investor is are those are those cost increases elective structural discretionary temporary it's kind of like which of those are they the more that you can make a determination that the cost bikes are temporary the more you stick with the name if you think there's something structurally changed about Amazon okay that's different I don't think there's anything structurally changed about Amazon and certainly not its competitive position and then the last thing what I really like to see. [28:44] Frankly is this company. I mean the level of investment this company is making its distribution Network you know you talked about Facebook earlier they're dumping 10 billion into the metaverse which I think there's a there there but I don't know Amazon is dumping billions and billions into its own Logistics Network like they're doubling down on their core competency you bet I'll stick with that and what they're going to what's going to come out of that is even faster and faster delivery and they're going to prove out this concept what I call shipping elasticity the faster you ship the more that people are going to use you in a more of their of the more of their wallet and per-share you're going to Amazon's going to get so we're going to actually going to Super up one day delivery and then they're going to Super up super same day delivery and I think they'll be able to just grab more and more and offer more and more products to people so I like those kind of investment initiatives so I think a lot of that margin pressure by the way it was really due to these kind of elective investments in the infrastructure they added more distribution capacity the last two years than Walmart has in its history. That's how aggressive Amazon is being an eye you know my guess is that third we're going to see dramatic market share gains from Amazon in the next 12 months so I like those companies that kind of really lean in bendin and the double down on our core competency that's what the Amazon is doing now. Scot: [30:00] Yeah. The Press is making a lot of noise around Shopify versus Amazon and Shopify is kind of amplifying that with they're arming the rebels and everything. Jason Connor makes our I won't say his thing but he's not a believer in that I think it's kind of interesting in there's definitely no love lost between the company's what what's your take on that is that a real battle or is that just kind of genda by to kind of raise awareness for Shopify. Mark: [30:26] You have a quick point of view on that Scott. Scot: [30:29] I think Shopify becomes a Marketplace adjacent thinks that's crazy Jason what do you what I'll let you state your own opinion. Jason: [30:38] Yeah I mean I think Shopify is a phenomenal company and a good executor so I'm not throwing rocks at Shopify. They're to me they're not a competitor to Amazon they don't acquire customers they have no traffic there there. Piece of infrastructure and a great valuable piece of infrastructure but a piece of infrastructure. Doesn't draw any customers in so I call these people that are like oh man they're like Amazon they have all this aggregated gmv and they could sell ads to it and they can you know recruit more sellers because they have this this audience and all these things will they don't have any of those things they don't have a single b2c marketer. In their company and I would argue that's that's been one of Amazon's Court competencies is they've they use the flywheel to build this this huge audience that they get to sell all the. Their goods and services to so I just I don't think. They compete in any in any meaningful way and I think if Shopify were to try to become a true b2c company like Amazon. It would just be a phenomenal pivot it would be you know. Can't you know obviously they have the resources to fund trying for it but I'm not sure that's the best move for them. Mark: [31:57] Yeah I don't so I Do cover Shopify I've been really impressed with them I don't know them as well as I know Amazon but I've been super impressed. With them and terms of the product development and they are just providing more and more services to small Merchants so I think there's an are now bigger than eBay in terms of GM vo but I can never there's not enough disclosure to figure out so where's that GM D coming because I think some of that probably does come through eBay so a little bit of double counting that goes on in there but it's really impressive what they've pulled together whether they can actually aggregate demand in a way that Amazon has I think that's I think that's unlikely I think that's a very hard thing to do it's possible they do have a shop app I just, yeah I guess that's the action question we often ask ourselves do you think you're going to use the shop app to shop. [32:45] I don't think so I don't think people are going to do that but you know if they can get enough people to do that boy they will have really they will have some really circled it that you know because they got the infrastructure okay they're talking about building out fulfillment and doing fulfillment for people and spending a billion dollars on it sorry my friends you're gonna have to spend a heck of a lot more than a billion if you if you really want to you know compete. Because the bar is getting higher it's not getting lower it's getting higher in terms of funeral the speed of delivery eBay learn this the hard way and so shockfights Memphis spend a lot more than that so anyway there's a lot of wonderful things about Shopify and I don't know whether if you listening to slammed on by if you think they can build up an aggregate an audience I don't think they can so does it make doesn't make it a slam dunk by it's it's you know it's a deep three point shot put it that way. And you're not Steph Curry. Jason: [33:41] I think we're going back to the basketball references in the book. Yeah it you know I tend to agree I'm not I don't think the shop app you know has attracted an audience that uses it for shopping yet it's a shipping trapping tracking app at the moment. But the it is funny like there are lots of companies that facilitate huge amounts of gmv so I think of like. Excuse me and Akamai is a. Is a CDN that's that used by almost every retailer to help help sell stuff right and so if you said well what's the CD the gmv of Akamai well it's bigger than Amazons. Um but that doesn't mean that Akamai can compete with Amazon so yeah I don't know. [34:28] I do want to go back to Amazon earnings just briefly because I you know I think a lot of the Slowdown is kind of a covid blip and I don't know if you ever think of it this way but. They're there their times in history when. It feels like the external factors aren't a big influence and and you know some companies perform really well and other companies struggle so you know there could be a year when you see Home Depot doing really well and lows struggling and you say. There's something special about Home Depot that I might be interested in investing in at the moment it feels like the external environment for retail is having a. [35:07] Sort of a consistent effect on everyone right and so you look at the industry average is you look at all of them is on Spears and they all have sort of the same shape of deceleration. That Amazon has so it's to me it's hard to attribute that to some. Some fundamental flaw in Amazon but there is one thing I noticed this quarter that it was interesting and I wanted to get your opinion about because I know as an investor you like seeing companies that have pricing power. And you know of course Amazon famously raise the price of prime a while back and seems like that was wildly successful this quarter. They've raised the price for grocery delivery there now charging ten dollar delivery fees even for Prime members. And then this week we saw that they made a pretty substantial increase to the cost of f ba which is you know the fundamental service used by almost all marketplace hours and they they just raise the price of that by like five percent and I'm curious do you look at that as a good sign that hey. They have pricing power and they're doing so well that they can command those prices or to me it's a potential warning sign because I feel like Amazon is so. Zealous an advocate of the flywheel in the flywheel is all about driving costs down to get scale up I just was surprised to see some of these like price increases in in you know. Especially grocery which isn't super mature yet. Mark: [36:33] Well I'm not sure really of the answer to your question Jason it's a it's a it's a really good thoughtful question on the on the groceries I think they raised it because the unit economics were just not working for them in terms of grocery delivery that's that's my guess they also you know yet to have that get to really crack the code on the grocery business and so I sort of see that as they tried it and it just can't right size the economics of they got to charge more for it so I read that kind of negatively what did the raising fees to sellers. But my guess is it's a mixture of things but it's largely driven that my guess is that this largely driven off of Just Rising. [37:17] You know Rising infrastructure costs have been rising shipping costs I mean Rising the two costs that they called out specifically on the earnings call my recall is correct is our steel costs because of all of that dish construction they're doing with their fulfillment centers and trucking services and so my guess is that they've they're doing is not necessarily the right size the economics is I think the economics are working but because they want to try to keep their unit economics relatively intact. And that's sort of the way I think they thought about the raising the price of prime it wasn't they did it because they could. It's they did because they sort of had to like the costs are rising it's just that what I found interesting in terms of pricing power is van acceleration in in Prime ads you know post that price increase like that and so does Netflix to me Netflix is essentially raise fees use the fees to you know generate more Revenue by more content is like a flywheel that they've worked with their make the service more bringing more users allows them to get a little bit raised money just a little bit more so it's not so much raising fees to extract excess profits it's raising fees to further accelerate growth and the value proposition is strong enough that they can do that and not lose customers that's that's that that there's this is subtle nuance and maybe it's too salty but but I think it's an important it's important difference it's not it's no it's raising pricing not to raise margins it's raising pricing to fuel growth. [38:46] And when you so either way it's good I happen to think you you want to the the better one is the latter one is a more impressive the latter one is more impressive because you're raising pricing just to Goose your margins you know you just put a Target on your back. Scot: [39:03] Reading the book made me nostalgic and maybe we'll do a little bit of a lightning round but one of the companies you wrote about that I kind of forgot about and those interesting was Zulily I remember when they came on the scene and we were all like. They were all blown away by how fast they could just get product up right they had this thing where they could. They could have most of those kids so they'd get like all these little kid models in there and throw some clothes on them take a picture and then like changed outfit take another so they could do something like you know thousand different products an hour or something. What's your recollection on Zulily. Mark: [39:40] She really is that was one of my calls that didn't work and. So I and I learned some lessons from that I think to me the lesson I drew a to do with value proposition they had wonderful cohort disclosure in their S1 when they went public I mean it was truly impressive. And you know the they also raise kind of an analytical question because the first it's not too dissimilar to stitch fix today the first three or four million customers were extremely happy the question is. Were there another three to four million customers that could be extremely happy and the problem that Zulily faced is that it customer value proposition had one major flaw which is that you couldn't return product if you didn't like it they didn't they didn't accept returns oh I'm sorry there were two problems and there was no Speedy Delivery you know you could get stuff in seven days and 20 days. That was good for the first day of the first three to four million customers who are fine with that you break into the mainstream and you mean I can't return something if I don't like it you mean I gotta wait how many days until I get something like that ended up. [40:45] And it was very hard being the survey you really had to go with gut instinct on that to realize in advance that they were going to hit a wall in their growth. Geez when you saw what happened to their growth rate when they went public it was Triple digits six quarters later they were doing 10 percent Revenue growth they hit the wall because the value proposition. Wasn't strong enough and then they end up going going private that to me was kind of a lesson which is you know the. [41:10] Growth was impressive but that value proposition if it's not if they hadn't they didn't have it nailed down and you knew from the beginning I knew from the beginning what the two Falls were I just I didn't know when it would hit them and hit them earlier than I thought so you know it gives us another reason to really focus on how compelling do you think this value proposition is how many you know will that can the can a customer base double given the existing value prop. And that's one of the big lessons if I spin it a little bit I mean that's to me is and Scott you look through this entire history like you know the first decade of the internet the king of online retail wasn't Amazon it was eBay and they had like six times seven times the market cap of Amazon that's completely changed and why is it change and I think in part it's because of the value prop I mean Amazon just beat him on price selection and convenience year in and year out and that really mattered but a more recent example in my book. [42:02] In literally and figuratively is doordash and GrubHub and that's example many people will will know but grub have that great business model wonderful investor Centric business model High margins and doordash had this you know generating tons of losses but they had the better value prop because they had more restaurants selection and the end of the day that they want and they were able to scale up and generate serve reasonable profits over time that was the case where my quick tag line is you know customer-centric companies. Beat investor Centric companies most of the time in market cap and market share Amazon versus eBay, GrubHub versus doordash those two examples really drilled that less than to me. Jason: [42:48] Yeah I've been fighting those companies because you know there. They're like increasingly overlapping with a lot of my Commerce clients and like you know a big. A big sort of disruption and commerce right now is all these ultra-fast delivery services and you know it seems pretty clear that doordash and Uber are both gonna want to play directly in that space so it seems like some of those those sectors are on a collision course to chase that Tam. Mark: [43:15] I think you're right Jason I also think Amazon I mean you're talking about logistics like that's Amazon's competency so whether you need to. Whether you're going to vertically integrate and do that or whether you going to do that virtually you know Foo you know a gig economy Network. I don't know which which is going to work better long-term but yeah and you know it's going to raise the bar and make it more and more expensive for anybody to operate in that in that segment I have a bias that Amazon in the end wins that but it's big enough of a market it's so early stage that you can have multiple winners for the next five years I don't know that you can have multiple winners for the next 10 years. Jason: [43:56] Yeah there was a funny question in the Amazon earnings call someone asked about ultra-fast delivery in the CFO kind of I thought brilliantly threw some shade on it he's like. He said something to the effect of we like where we are and ultrafast like we have one hour delivery on about 178,000 skews right now and we're you know we're going to continue to scale that and I don't know how many people follow this but all of the competitors in this space are are desperately trying to figure out how to do one hour delivery for like 7000 skus. So so like they're you know they definitely are gonna be able to leverage the infrastructure there and I'm sure they're making some big investments in that space too. Another area that's that's been kind of interesting lately and I know you've been following this little bit is obviously there are all these privacy changes and the depreciation of the third-party cookies and especially the IDF a you know mobile privacy changes. That Apple has instituted and that obviously had a pretty pronounced impact on the value of some companies like Snap recently A View you have a opinion there is that. Is that a blip or is that a systemic change. Mark: [45:08] I think it's a big pothole in the road. But it's not there but the but the it's a big pothole in the road but it's not a bridge that it's not a collapsed bridge that get that mountain out. Yeah so poor that hey yes. Yes it is yeah that's it that's pretty I mean that's a big pothole that idea Fay allowed Facebook to offer amazing attribution to millions and millions and millions of businesses and now that's gone and and and to their credit to Facebook's credit they warned about it for a year two snaps discredit they didn't warn about it ever and so that's why their stock went off you know 22 decline 25 percent whereas Facebook stock even the numbers came in weaker than expected you know kind of fell off to the 3% and by the way then is traded up above where it was at earnings time so what I mean very intrigued by is I think it will be a son of that idea of a. [46:12] You know child of idea say I like I think there's so much at stake here both from the advertising platforms like Facebook you know and Google's to some extent a little bit and Snapchat but also for you know the millions of marketers out there who you don't you were able to thank thanks to Facebook use of people's privacy data you know from right or wrong I mean that's what that's what they they did I mean this help Merchants really know which of their campaigns worked and allow them to you know run creative and that creative could be automatically you know a be tested abcdefgh like 8 times 8 different ways in which ever those creatives work best. You could actually beat successful one of them then you can just pivot all of the dollars behind that one campaign you know campaign h for campaign be your campaign e.e. and that's just a wonderful way to help these small businesses you know really succeed and that's been taken away now you know there's I think there's first a little bit of shock shoot I can't get the attribution I had I'm going to pull a my marketing dollars but marketers got a market. [47:13] And I think you're going to see those dollars come back and my guess is that Facebook and other companies are going to find some way to do. Better targeting they may not quite get to idea that a type of levels but they were going to be able to do some sort of audience targeting they also have a lot of first-party data but they'll be able to do it in a way that doesn't that you know respect people's privacy and yeah you'll see those dollars come back so that's why I referred to as a pothole I it's a big pothole it's but it's not that it's not a bridge that just collapsed you know you're going to be you can they can they got stuck in that pothole more than anybody else but you know the cranes there whatever they're getting a tow trucks they're they're getting out of it they got to do some nobody work they'll fix the car and it'll be back on the road in part because they've got the talent to do it but in part because there are millions of small businesses that are given to going to give them the incentive to do it because they'll get those marketing dollars back once they figure out some of the idea that a. Jason: [48:09] Yeah I always like to remind people that are like The Skys Falling on the advertising industry that you know. It wasn't very long ago that we had much worse targeting than than we have in digital even with idea of a I mean targeting used to be deciding which publication you were going to print your ad in. And they still got a lot of money in the advertising industry so like I kind of suspect that that marketers are going to figure out you know the best ways to invest their money even if it maybe isn't quite as. As real-time as people got used to for a short while. Mark: [48:42] I think you're right Jason. Scot: [48:45] So Mark you in the book you recap kind of this awesome 25-year career and you know one of the things I've learned is if you're in the game of making predictions you know that it's kind of humbling but then you kind of slowly but surely get better at it right you never get to kind of you know a hundred percent but over time you get better and like like for example you learned the lesson of. The companies that are customer focused to do better than investor focused think founder based in that kind of as you as you take those backward 25-year learnings and project them forward what are some of the things that you get excited about looking out the next five or ten years. Mark: [49:23] Well in terms of Trends even the next year or two I think whoever solves. Marketing attribution is going to be worth a lot more in two years than they are today just because there's so many businesses so many marketers that will pay for that. So I you know so that's that's kind of a debt that whoever whoever fills in the pothole that's going to be a very valuable company it's going to be a lot more valuable to years and it is today my guess is that there's gonna be Facebook so I'm interested in that then there's thing this thing called The Medic verse which I don't know this is just virtual reality just renamed do a Google Trends search on metaverse just watch that just spiked up in the last love so you know you kudos to the person who came up with that idea may be excited maybe Jason or Scott maybe was you I. Jason: [50:09] It's just a rebranded second life. Mark: [50:12] Okay and. But but you know the fact that it was two things that kind of struck me there's some pretty big companies throwing a lot of big money at metaverse you know Facebook Microsoft there's a bunch of others and then there's this Roblox generation people young people who are perfectly comfortable living in the meta verse in virtual reality and. [50:38] You know participating in concerts safely and you know and shopping and communicating and entertaining and learning. [50:49] And learning through the metaverse and so you know we knows 8 18 year olds you know get out into the real world you know they're going to be perfectly comfortable in the meadow verse maybe not the way you know not the way that we will naturally be but you know though they'll help us figure it out and so so I'm really intrigued by the metaverse I think it is going to take 5 to 10 years because that to really develop and I'm trying to trying to figure it out who the big winners are but but I'm very intrigued by that. [51:18] Yeah I'm also got one of those oculist you know I've gotten two different versions Generations the it's the iterations of the Oculus Rift and you know i-i've always it's kind of like when I first saw the Kindle you know the first Kindle I ever got was pretty darn kludgy but you know I just love the idea that you could just download any book on the your kludgy device will you know whenever you whenever you were in a Wi-Fi area and and I and you and you just saw how that device got better and better each iteration and so I just think about that with these with these virtual reality headsets I mean they're clumpy their clunky their kludgy it's kind of embarrassing to be have a picture of you taking them but you know just you can imagine already know how much they've improved over the last couple of years and just think ahead is it possible the next five to seven years it's going to be just it's going to be like putting on a pair of sunglasses I think that's what we should be thinking about if you can easily put on a pair of sunglasses and and enter the metaverse and have you know share a virtual you know in presence experience that sounds but that sounds odd or not but you can do that, I think a lot of people will do that and you know the education the work applications around that so I'm very intrigued by that. Jason: [52:28] So you're saying that that could be chewy.com to Google Glasses pets.com. Mark: [52:36] Yes yes I love that yes I hadn't thought about that way yeah and by the way I've got my Google Glass here you know I'm. Got that I got that early version I got the Amazon Fire Phone you know but just be the the early failures sometimes see these I mean they're kind of in the right direction I don't know exactly what there's a there's a backstory to Google Glass that we only partially know but anyway they have the concept is there and and you know the big iterations that these products do get better and as they get better easier cheaper lighter cooler you know like Main Street cooler not Silicon Valley cooler then then markets can appear. Scot: [53:17] I think that's something the three of us have in common I think the three of us are probably the only people that ordered and probably still own an Amazon Fire Phone. Jeff Ellis. Mark: [53:29] And I've Got My Socks.com puppet to it's in my office I put the hits I got it as a warning. Scot: [53:31] I have one of those too yeah we all I guess we all have one of those too. Jason: [53:36] That that puppet ended up being the most valuable asset from pets.com sidenote like I don't know if you followed it but there was there was there was a whole intellectual property fight with Triumph the comedy dog and all that stuff yeah. Unattended value unintended value creation. Scot: [53:53] Mark were you you know we've used up about an hour of your time we really appreciate you coming on the show to tell us about the book when's it come out where can people find it do you do you want them to order from that Seattle bookstore that we've been chatting about. Mark: [54:09] So yeah and thanks Scott Jason I've always enjoyed listening to your show I did tell you it beginning I your analysis recently all birds and Warby Parker I took the heart because I initiated Warby Parker as an analyst but I after after I've seen what your thoughts were on it. So thanks for having me on the show and to talk about the book nothing but Net 10 Timeless stock-picking lessons from one of wall Street's top Tech analyst I just like to nothing but net on a big Hoops fan. And my kids are hoops and that's been my email pack lines there's a lot of meaning for me in that that title it is available wherever fine literature is sold it is available on Amazon it's the it's a top bestseller now and in the business category so I've been I've been just it was just a it was a labor of love for me and throw like a chance to talk with both of you about it because you've lived through the sister just as much as I have and it's fascinating the lessons we can draw from. Jason: [55:01] Well Mark is been entirely our privilege and it's a great sign that you know just halfway through your career you had enough material for an amazing book so I can't wait to read the the sequel after the next half. Mark: [55:13] All right I will talk with will do it again in 25 years. Jason: [55:18] I'm booking it right now. Scot: [55:20] Bring our sock puppet are and pets.com puppets in our Amazon Fire Phone. Mark: [55:24] That's. Jason: [55:25] Yeah everyone else will be living in the metaverse at that point in no one's going to get it but it's cool. But Mark really appreciated your time and until next time happy commercing!

Welcome to the OC, Bitches!
The OC: The Cultural Impact with Alan Sepinwall + Grace Perry

Welcome to the OC, Bitches!

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 16, 2021 80:37


This episode the hosts dive into the cultural impact of The OC. They are joined by TV critic and author of the book, “Stop Being a Hater and Learn to Love the O.C.,” Alan Sepinwall. Find out what Alan loved about the show and what he thought didn't work. The OC didn't make it into Alan's top 100 TV shows of all time -- the hosts want to know why! Also, hear all about what being a TV critic entails and how it's changed since the days of The OC. Later, Rachel and Melinda are joined by author of the book, “The 2000s Made Me Gay,” Grace Perry. She shares her experience as a young girl growing up in the early aughts, discovering her sexuality and how it was all impacted by pop culture and characters in television, especially, “banter boy,” Seth Cohen. Find out what a banter boy is, hear Grace's opinion on the Alex and Marissa storyline in season 2, and learn what she thinks Seth's super power is. Furnish your home like Rachel and Melinda! Visit https://www.article.com/OC and get $50 of your first purchase of $100 or more. Mejuri makes fine jewelry for everyday use. Visit https://www.mejuri.com and use code OC for 10% off your first order. Grubhub loves restaurants - from the food to the passion and determination of the people behind them. Today, they're doing a little extra to serve Panera. Get a Free Delivery Perk on your first order from Panera of $15 or more. Order at https://www.Grubhub.com or through their app. With Olive & June's Mani System, you can achieve beautiful, salon-perfect nails at an affordable price! Visit https://www.OliveandJune.com/OC and and use code OC for 20% off your first mani system. Talkspace is the #1 online therapy platform. They offer individual therapy, couples therapy, and medication prescription services. Match with a licensed therapist when you go to https://www.talkspace.com and get $100 off your first month with the promo code THEOC. Visit https://www.fablehome.co and use code THEOC to take 10% off your first purchase. Follow https://www.instagram.com/rachelbilson & https://www.instagram.com/themelindaclarke on Instagram! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Culture Factor 2.0
Shawn Walchef: Amazon Prime of BBQ Winning with Digital Hospitality

Culture Factor 2.0

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 11, 2021 44:34


Jason and Deb Full Show
The Morning X with Jason Dick and Friends - Full Show - Emily Vs The Ticket Taker

Jason and Deb Full Show

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 8, 2021 59:34


We discuss Cecily Strong talking clown abortions on Saturday Night Live, how Nick got got by Grubhub, and Emily's drama with a former friend who stole her tickets to a show. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

UNPLUGGED Live Concerts
Coldplay - Audacy Live - Album Release | Music Of The Spheres | Full Concert

UNPLUGGED Live Concerts

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 4, 2021 26:43


#AudacyLive, delivered by GrubHub, is hosting the official Coldplay Album Release Concert for ‘Music of the Spheres' from their show at City Winery in NYC! Team UNPLUGGED.

Outspoken with Shana Cosgrove
I'm Speaking: Roy White, Veteran and IT Leader

Outspoken with Shana Cosgrove

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 2, 2021 52:44


Impact, Air Force, and Information Technology.In this episode of The Outspoken Podcast, host Shana Cosgrove talks to Roy White, a leader in the world of Information Technology. Roy's upbringing, be it tough, was no match for the success he would have throughout his future. Roy speaks on all he's accomplished, including joining The Air Force, obtaining experience in many senior information technology positions, and being a positive mentor to many, including his children. As someone who has been very driven since his childhood, Roy goes into the life experiences that drive him even further and make him the entrepreneur he is today. Roy also talks about what it's like having his busy schedule all while being a good husband and father. Finally, we hear Roy's secret to success, his “why,” and his real thoughts about public speaking!  QUOTES “I did have a lot of trauma. I dealt with a lot of things, but I can say I persevered. A lot of my drive is based upon not having to go back or not wanting to go back to dealing with that and protecting my kids from dealing with whatever I dealt with.” - Roy [15:26] “A lot of the underclassmen started teasing me about “well what are you going to do Roy?... Because I never really voiced my plans of what I was wanting to do and things like that. And I said ‘Well one day I'm going to own my own business' and everybody just busted out laughing, even the coaches and all of that. And so, that's been my fuel for years… To kind of really push me toward business and entrepreneurship and things like that.” - Roy [18:54] “[The secret to success is] being relentless. And understanding that there is no escalator, there's no elevator, you know, there's no catapult or anything like that to the top. You have to take the stairs.” - Roy [34:27]   TIMESTAMPS  [00:04] Intro [01:33] Meet Roy [03:52] Roy's Schedule and Working Out [06:58] Roy and Shana Meeting [09:11] Golf [12:03] Roy's Wife [13:15] Managing Services [14:30] Growing Up [15:43] Ending Up in IT [19:37] Entrepreneurship [20:47] Air Force and Losing Scholarship [24:26] Marriage and Social Life [25:40] Party Promoter [27:55] Consortium [31:56] Wife and Children [34:24] Secret to Success [36:18] Year Plans [37:18] What Roy Would Do Differently [38:26] Roy's Reads and Inky Johnson [42:50] Mentors [43:50] Impact, Opposition, and the “Why” [47:04] Roy's Surprising Fact [50:08] Roy's Ask [52:23] Outro   RESOURCES https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/surface (Microsoft Surface) https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365?rtc=1 (Microsoft 365) https://www.google.com/ (Google) https://www.godaddy.com/ (GoDaddy) https://www.apple.com/ (Apple) https://www.webroot.com/us/en/about/events (Webroot) https://www.pax8.com/en-us/ (Pax8) https://www.af.mil/ (United States Air Force) https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathan-turner-9323871/ (Nathan Turner) on LinkedIn https://pentagontours.osd.mil/Tours/ (The Pentagon) https://www.boozallen.com/ (Booz Allen Hamilton) https://park14.com/ (The Park at 14th) https://www.eventbrite.com/ (Eventbrite) https://nitaac.nih.gov/gwacs/cio-sp4 (CIO-SP4) https://www.tiktok.com/en/ (TikTok) https://www.grubhub.com/ (Grubhub) https://www.acq.osd.mil/cmmc/ (Cybersecurity Maturity Model Certification (CMMC)) https://www.amazon.com/Empty-Bucket-Inky-Johnson/dp/B01L800C4O (Empty the Bucket) by Inky Johnson https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0366389/ (Kevin Hart) https://www.mosaicsgroup.com/about-us/leadership/ (Michael Grier with MOSAIC Technologies Group) https://www.linkedin.com/in/angie-lienert-pmp-1a753453/ (Angie Lienert) on LinkedIn https://intelligenesisllc.com/ (IntelliGenesis LLC)   RELEVANT LINKS https://www.linkedin.com/in/rwmbapmp/?trk=public_profile_browsemap (Roy White) on LinkedIn https://nylatechnologysolutions.com/ (Nyla Technology Solutions) I'd love to hear from you -- your feedback is important to me and I read all of it. If you enjoyed the podcast, I...

Fast Casual Nation Podcast
94. Building A Brand For Expansion | Pasta 78

Fast Casual Nation Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 29, 2021 46:29


The Fast Casual Nation Podcast offers exclusive interviews with experts ranging from top chefs and brand makers to executives and restaurants who work in one of the fastest-growing segments of the restaurant industry. In this episode, host Paul Barron chats with Cosmo Magliozzi, founder of Pasta 78 to discuss preparing to create a fast casual brand and developing it for expansion. Magliozzi talks about his introduction to what would become the birth of fast casual concepts back in the nineties, being inspired by Chipotle, and how his mentors and friends Joey Ciolli and Eric Grennwald of Grimaldi's Pizzeria helped Magliozzi get his brand launched. One year prior to opening Magliozzi says, his goal was to be able to make fresh pasta, cook it in under four minutes, and get it into a bowl and served. He adds, “you can make fifty to sixty pounds of pasta in less than an hour.” In November of 2020 Magliozzi says they opened their doors and then the pandemic. Since they have been building the brand and Pasta 78 is at the top of the list when fresh pasta is searched in Google. Magliozzi says, when they entered the space, third party delivery like DoorDash, GrubHub and UberEats saved the restaurant industry. He adds, if you were already an established business it was a lot easier to go online to order but being new they would have to find your restaurant first. Barron asks Magliozzi about the next generation of consumers, he says Pasta 78 has embraced TikTok and they began inviting bloggers and influencers to come to the restaurant for a free meal. Magliozzi says he had late teens and early twenties coming in, even the millennials were coming. Pasta 78 had a video go viral getting fifty six thousand hits, which drove business to the restaurant. To hear more from Magliozzi about the positive impact of social media, the importance of delivery, and Pasta 78's future growth plans, tune in to the episode of Fast Casual Nation on iTunes.

Sweet'N Up with Jeff Spencer
Episode #70 with Vanessa Sena

Sweet'N Up with Jeff Spencer

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 29, 2021 58:19


Chef Vanessa Sena is the founder & owner of My Local Chefs a new Hartford-based food-delivery service that wants to be thought of as the “anti-GrubHub or anti-Uber Eats. My Local Chefs launched on July 5th, 2021 with 11 Hartford-area culinary talents ranging from restaurateurs, meal-prep chefs, caterers, food-truck owners, farmers, condiment makers, wellness coaches and shop owners. Deliveries are made twice a week, on Mondays and Thursdays. My Local Chefs makes it easy to order home cooked meals and so much more from your favorite chefs! Vanessa is a rockstar entrepreneur and boss lady with an incredible story! We sat down together at the lovely Better Half Brewing Company located in Bristol, CT and had some incredible food from BirriaDilla! Seriously, you have to get out to Better Half and say hello to owners Mike & Rachel! They are the real deal! Thank you both so much for having us!

Meat + Three
Masked: Fakes, Fees, and Feasts

Meat + Three

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 28, 2021 24:35


We explore what is masked and hidden in the food world. From culinary imitation and unseen nutritional compounds, to anonymous Mukbang feasts, we pull back the veil. We explore hidden aspects of food production, food composition, and food enjoyment.  Further Reading:From the imitation meat story, read more about Dr. Steven Van Vliet and his research on the nutritional differences between plant-based meat and grass-fed meat.Learn about oxalate content and food alternatives for stoneformers through this Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health resource. Also see this story's guest Dr. Ross Holmes , and his research on dietary calcium oxalates and stoneforming. To read more about the DoorDash & Grubhub lawsuits, check out this McKinsey study  that was referenced in the story. Also read the City of Chicago's press release for the lawsuit, as well as DoorDash's response to the allegations. For a brief overview of mukbang in American culture versus Korean culture, read here. Also, read here for more about the rise of single-person households and emotional well-being. The mukbang sounds in this episode are excerpts from Youtube videos by 문복희 Eat with Boki, Stephanie Soo, and Eat with Que.

Five Stripe Weekly
DROPPED POINTS AGAIN FROM A WINNING POSITION & JOSEF TO START OR NOT START? | FIVE STRIPE WEEKLY #201

Five Stripe Weekly

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 27, 2021 33:25


In this episode, AJ and Marc review the Atlanta United vs NYCFC match! They also catch you up on the news from the past week and preview the match vs Inter Miami and Toronto FC. What are your thoughts? COMMENT TO JOIN IN! TODAY'S SPONSOR: Thinking Man Tavern is a cozy neighborhood pub where you can grab a tasty beverage or something delicious from the menu - to go! Locally sourced, house made and offering curbside takeout. Simply pay for your to go order over the phone, let them know when you've arrived, and they will bring the food to you. Curbside service will be available during normal business hours. Also on GrubHub, DoorDash and Uber Eats. Go check out Thinking Man Tavern! Google Maps: https://goo.gl/maps/2Lf2CPUbqvTRVkLj9 --------- We've launched a Patreon! We're constantly leveling up our video and social media content and you can help us sustain the channel and assist from a grassroots level. Help us make more of the content you want to see! Join us! http://patreon.com/atlutdfantv --------- ▶ Find our podcast in audio form on your favorite podcatchers! --------- ▶ Support the channel while you shop for ATL UTD gear (at no extra cost to you!): https://www.amazon.com/shop/atlantaunitedfantv --------- ▶ COP FROM OUR SHOP (grab some ATL UTD fan gear!): https://teechip.com/stores/tackl --------- About Atlanta United Fan TV: We are created by fans for the fans of Atlanta United and soccer. Join the community to get in on the conversation! Bringing you fan cams, podcasts, vlogs, mini-documentaries and much more! If you're a Five Stripe, we want to hear from you! Whatever you want to say about ATL UTD you can say it in the comments below. And to get in touch with us, connect with us: ▶ INSTAGRAM: https://goo.gl/9uOLVn ▶ TWITTER: https://goo.gl/5uc709 ▶ TWITCH: https://www.twitch.tv/atlutdfantv ▶ DISCORD: https://discord.gg/C4RXb2b ▶ FACEBOOK: https://tinyurl.com/y3ga5mst ▶ SNAPCHAT: atlutdfantv17 ▶ TIK TOK: atlutdfantv --------- #ATLUTD #UniteAndConquer #MLS

RB Daily
Sweetgreen, Grubhub, Tim Hortons

RB Daily

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 27, 2021 3:25


Sweetgreen is big on digital. Grubhub explains why it fell behind. And Tim Hortons is having issues at dinner.

RB Daily
Burger King, Grubhub, EEOC

RB Daily

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 26, 2021 3:53


Burger King doesn't want diners clipping coupons. An activist investor has major qualms about the Just Eat-Grubhub deal. And the EEOC made a surprise vaccine announcement.

Welcome to the OC, Bitches!
Adam Brody: The Strip + All Things The OC (Part 1 of 2)

Welcome to the OC, Bitches!

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 26, 2021 49:48


Rachel and Melinda are joined by Adam Brody, who played fan-favorite Seth Cohen on The OC, to discuss “The Strip,” (S1 Ep26). However, in part 1 of this 2 part episode, the conversation takes a turn away from the episode and dives more into Adam's overall OC experience. How similar is Adam to Seth? How did he feel about his performance playing the character? What does he still struggle with in regards to Seth? Listen to hear his answers. They'll also reminisce about the project Adam collaborated with Rachel's dad on, and the first gift he ever gave to her.  And, hear the one thing Rachel has been wanting to tell Adam!  Then, tune in next week as they share memories from The Strip as well as more never-before-discussed moments from their time on The OC. The Strip Synopsis: When word gets out that Caleb is having a bachelor party in Vegas, Sandy, Jimmy, Seth, and Ryan all invite themselves along. With the hopes to win some money to help Theresa out, Ryan and Seth instead end up owing money… to a pimp, after unknowingly inviting prostitutes over to their penthouse. Back home, Kirsten agrees to Julie's wishes and hosts her a bachelorette party that includes strippers! Leave the OC, Bitches a message: https://www.speakpipe.com/ocbitches Please support our sponsors: Get a Free Delivery Perk on your first order from Panera of $15 or more when you order through the app or at https://www.Grubhub.com. Start building better habits for healthier, long-term results. Sign up for your trial at https://www.Noom.com/OC.  Talkspace is the #1 online therapy platform. Match with a licensed therapist when you go to https://www.talkspace.com and get $100 off your first month with the promo code THEOC. Athletic Greens is going to give you an immune supporting FREE 1 year supply of Vitamin D AND 5 free travel packs with your first purchase if you visit https://www.athleticgreens.com/theoc to take control of your health and give AG1 a try.  Experience your new favorite clean skincare line. Get 10% off your first order with promo code OC at https://www.OSEAmalibu.com. Follow https://www.instagram.com/rachelbilson & https://www.instagram.com/themelindaclarke on Instagram! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jon & Chantel
2nd Date Update- I Choose 'Call of Duty'

Jon & Chantel

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 25, 2021 8:19


Tyler planned a fun date with Kay; the aquarium, dinner from Grub Hub and....video games?

Eat It, Virginia!
Daquan and Nicole Woodberry: LoCo

Eat It, Virginia!

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 25, 2021 65:43


To say Daquan and Nicole Woodberry have a lot of irons in the fire would be an understatement. The chef and entrepreneur power couple hopes to transform the way Richmond orders food with both the LoCo food delivery app and virtual restaurants. "A virtual restaurant is essentially a restaurant within a restaurant. It thrives and operates solely off of delivery platforms," Dequan, who goes by Chef DQ, explained. "So if you go on any of the delivery apps such as [his app] LoCo, Uber Eats, GrubHub and DoorDash. And you're like, hey, I want fried chicken sandwiches, and you're scrolling down and you'll see [his new brand] Absurd Bird pop up. Well, you'll be able to order. And that food will be made at [his restaurant] RVA Cafe and it'll be delivered to you and you may or may not know is coming from RVA Cafe. So the big thing here is a lot of bigger chains and a lot of bigger corporations are getting into this. Maybe people have heard of Hootie's Burger Bar, that's a virtual restaurant from Hooters. But you walk into Hooters and they're going to look at you like you're crazy If you come ask them for a Hootie's burger. They're like, we don't know what that is, the servers are sometimes unaware. So this is how the world is changing. And it was happening way before COVID. But you know, being honest, COVID accelerated that process pretty much five times over." Daquan, who served in the Marines, said he learned his work ethic from his father Maurice and was inspired to follow his dreams by his wife Nicole. "When I say she saved my entire life she did. I was in a really dark space. I had just come out of the Marine Corps. I was actually injured. So I'm more than thankful, that God spared life on that end and I'm still able to function because I have friends that can't," Daquan said. "She really refreshed my life. She really came and poured life back into me and kind of encouraged me to go and find what I love to do. So that's actually what led me to be a chef. She said do what you love. And, you know, she supported me the whole entire way." Several years and businesses later, Dqquan admits it's more than support. "Now she's the real boss of the whole business," he said. " just sit here and look pretty. She does everything else." See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

KoffeeSipsTea
How to Pivot while Sippin' Matcha tea w/ Cynthia C.

KoffeeSipsTea

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 24, 2021 44:29


Hello Lovely Lattes ☕️! Thanks for stopping by the KoffeeSipsTea Podcast with our guest Cynthia Concordia who is a life coach! Hear her inspirational story here. Then connect with her for services at Dream to Rise LLC: https://www.dreamtorise.info *********************************************Interested in becoming a guest on one of the top rated Faith-based podcasts?! Then send an email to hasessions12@gmail.com with your availability and your business services! Can't wait to have you on the show! Or book your appointment directly on my calendar: https://calendly.com/hasessions12/intro-to-ha ******************************** Now lovely lattes can leave a message with any questions or prayer requests

Geobreeze Travel
Episode 53 - How to Earn Points on Rent with Richard Kerr

Geobreeze Travel

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 24, 2021 41:23


Richard Kerr is the director of travel rewards at Bilt. He is a veteran Naval officer and founder of the Award Travel 101 Facebook community. He's one of the foremost experts in points and miles strategy, featured in Forbes, US News, Money Magazine, Kiplinger Personal Finance and presented at #SXSW 2017. Richard has visited over 45 countries, lived in England and Japan, and spends his spare time dissecting loyalty program award charts to maximize the value of points and miles. Richard holds a BBA in International Business and has his wife and two small children in tow for his travels as often as possible. In this episode, Richard and I discuss his career journey as a points and miles creator, his current role at Bilt, and all the features of the new Bilt program -- a program that has no annual fee, lets you earn interest on your points bank, points on rent payments, and more! Currently, there is a reallllly long waitlist for getting the Bilt card. Thousands upon thousands of people. But I have a promo code for you to skip the line! Use the code "GEOBREEZEXBILT" in all caps at https://www.biltrewards.com/waitlist and you'll get your Bilt application fast-tracked. Here's how to get more than 35% back on your next $30 at GrubHub: Sign up for Fluz using the link in the show notes, and you'll get 3 vouchers, each worth 35% back. Use each one to purchase a separate $10 gift card on GrubHub through the Fluz app and load all three gift cards into your GrubHub account. Easy! Even better, the gift cards code as dining purchases so you'll earn extra points if you use a credit card that gives bonus points for dining. Download the Fluz app using the link in the show notes. Thank you to Fluz for partnering with this episode of the Geobreeze Travel Podcast! Download the Fluz app at: https://joinfluz.app.link/GEOBREEZETRAVELPODCAST Sign up for Bilt at: https://www.biltrewards.com/waitlist Use the code "GEOBREEZEXBILT" (all caps) to jump the waitlist You can find Richard at: https://www.instagram.com/kerrpoints You can find Julia at: Website: https://www.geobreezetravel.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/geobreezetravel Credit card links: https://www.geobreezetravel.com/cards Masterclasses: https://www.geobreezetravel.com/hangouts Patreon to access recordings of masterclasses: https://www.patreon.com/geobreezetravel Award travel coaching call: https://www.geobreezetravel.com/calendly Sign up for the newsletter and get exclusive access to sign up for free coaching calls: https://www.geobreezetravel.com/free-coaching Geobreeze Travel is part of an affiliate sales network and receives compensation for sending traffic to partner sites, such as MileValue.com. This compensation may impact how and where links appear on this site. This site does not include all financial companies or all available financial offers. Terms apply to American Express benefits and offers. Enrollment may be required for select American Express benefits and offers. Visit americanexpress.com to learn more.

Best of News Talk 590 WVLK AM

Jack talks to the Kentucky Technado James Mason about security of delivery apps like Grubhub and DoorDash.   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

CMO Moves
Steven Tristan Young, CMO of Poshmark - Problem-Solving Over Perfection

CMO Moves

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 21, 2021 42:17


When Steven Tristan Young decided to take on the role of the first-ever CMO for the digitally native fashion marketplace Poshmark three years ago, he knew he had a big opportunity to make a mark on a lesser-known category that was ripe for adoption. And he was no stranger to taking on such a task, having served as VP of Growth for Grubhub at a time when the concept of food delivery was just starting to catch on. In this episode, Young shares what it means to be a tech CMO today and what skills are most needed for marketers moving forward.

Five Stripe Weekly
MORENO BALLS OUT & BARCO SEES RED IN A WILD MATCH IN TORONTO! | FIVE STRIPE WEEKLY #200

Five Stripe Weekly

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 20, 2021 30:00


In the 200TH EPISODE, AJ and special guest Chris Smith from 90min talk the Atlanta United vs Toronto FC match in the new free flow format! They also catch you up on the news from the past week and preview the match vs NYCFC. What are your thoughts? COMMENT TO JOIN IN! TODAY'S SPONSOR: Thinking Man Tavern is a cozy neighborhood pub where you can grab a tasty beverage or something delicious from the menu - to go! Locally sourced, house made and offering curbside takeout. Simply pay for your to go order over the phone, let them know when you've arrived, and they will bring the food to you. Curbside service will be available during normal business hours. Also on GrubHub, DoorDash and Uber Eats. Go check out Thinking Man Tavern! Google Maps: https://goo.gl/maps/2Lf2CPUbqvTRVkLj9 --------- We've launched a Patreon! We're constantly leveling up our video and social media content and you can help us sustain the channel and assist from a grassroots level. Help us make more of the content you want to see! Join us! http://patreon.com/atlutdfantv --------- ▶ Find our podcast in audio form on your favorite podcatchers! --------- ▶ Support the channel while you shop for ATL UTD gear (at no extra cost to you!): https://www.amazon.com/shop/atlantaunitedfantv --------- ▶ COP FROM OUR SHOP (grab some ATL UTD fan gear!): https://teechip.com/stores/tackl --------- About Atlanta United Fan TV: We are created by fans for the fans of Atlanta United and soccer. Join the community to get in on the conversation! Bringing you fan cams, podcasts, vlogs, mini-documentaries and much more! If you're a Five Stripe, we want to hear from you! Whatever you want to say about ATL UTD you can say it in the comments below. And to get in touch with us, connect with us: ▶ INSTAGRAM: https://goo.gl/9uOLVn ▶ TWITTER: https://goo.gl/5uc709 ▶ TWITCH: https://www.twitch.tv/atlutdfantv ▶ DISCORD: https://discord.gg/C4RXb2b ▶ FACEBOOK: https://tinyurl.com/y3ga5mst ▶ SNAPCHAT: atlutdfantv17 ▶ TIK TOK: atlutdfantv --------- #ATLUTD #UniteAndConquer #AD #MLS

Ali on the Run Show
432. Shayla Martin, Breast Cancer Survivor

Ali on the Run Show

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 14, 2021 82:15


“In my gut, I knew my life was about to change.” Shayla Martin has a lot to celebrate right now. First, her 43rd birthday. Then, a spontaneous experience dancing onstage at a concert with Diplo. And, perhaps most importantly, her three-year anniversary of being cancer-free. On this episode, meet two-time marathoner Shayla Martin, a woman who is always joyful, smiling, and seeking a good time. But in 2017, at just 39 years old, Shayla's world was rocked when she found a lump in her breast that turned out to be breast cancer. Here, Shayla shares her cancer story, which included a mastectomy, chemo, radiation, and three breast reconstruction surgeries. She talks about how cancer changed her relationship with her body, and why, in her forties, she decided to pursue therapy for the very first time. She talks about living her best life at Burning Man, about a low point in her life last summer, when she was arrested on her way home after a run, and about why she thinks "life should be lived in a tutu." Shayla lives in New York City where she works in hospitality sales for GrubHub. SPONSOR: AfterShokz — Visit ontherun.aftershokz.com for 15% off wireless headphones. What you'll get on this episode: On dancing onstage with Diplo and Jess King, and going to Burning Man (3:00) What Shayla's life was like before her cancer diagnosis (15:30) What it was like being diagnosed with breast cancer (19:50) How Shayla responded to chemo and radiation (35:00) How Shayla's relationship with her body has changed since getting cancer, and what it was like being told she was cancer-free (44:55) Therapy talk (54:00) Shayla's experience getting arrested last summer while walking home after a run (1:04:00) Check out: The Pink Agenda Black Burner Project on Instagram @blackburnerproject Follow Shayla: Instagram @sdotmartin05 Follow Ali: Instagram @aliontherun1 Join the Facebook group Twitter @aliontherun1 Support on Patreon Blog Strava Listen & Subscribe: Apple Podcasts Spotify SoundCloud Overcast Stitcher Google Play SUPPORT the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Spread the run love. And if you liked this episode, share it with your friends!

The Berean Manifesto
S3EP48 - Unveiled

The Berean Manifesto

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 14, 2021 61:21


Pastor Bill: [0:06] Welcome to season 3 episode 48 Berean Manifesto, brought to you by The Ekklesian House; Faith, Hope, and Love for the Modern Christian. Some people thought they were having TV issues because people are just a black screen and audio.   Pastor Newms: [0:29] TV, I will not talk bad about a brand normally, and I won't here for in this situation is why I'm saying I'm not going to say their name I love their monitors this particular company. Love their monitors my girls have the TV way too loud in the living room and hopefully they'll hear that and then turn it down that's beside the, um the. TV we have in the living room I bought because I love the monitors from this company and so I was like okay they must put out a good TV also, right we've had the TV for about a year and it is now like. We restarted a movie like eight times today and then ended up giving up instead of watching. On it. Um because it would just stop and freeze and we've tried using a different network we've tried all kinds of stuff. Multiple times hard resets because it's an Android device you know we've tried all of it Zaydiee says she can't hear us well, but I don't understand how that is because I can hear me through my headset and across the house so that confuses me a little, um Zaydiee do you mean you can't hear one of us.   Pastor Bill: [2:13] Which is funny because Groggy says we're too loud. The same room watching on the same device.   Pastor Newms: [2:28] They're all sitting at the dining room table coloring I'm not sure what groggy is doing I don't know if he's coloring or just sitting there but yeah they're all over there so I'm not sure. Bill is a lot quieter that brain says you can hear him fine the lines state that bill is louder than me.   Pastor Bill: [3:08] Okay the chat is a little live right.   Pastor Newms: [3:12] Our house our house is an open-concept house because it's cheaper not to put walls and let's be honest that's the only reason Builders build oh. It go there I've always found it to be a rip off but that's beside the point so they are in the dining room and he is on the couch.   Pastor Bill: [3:33] Technically they're in different rooms.   Pastor Newms: [3:35] The couch is technically separate from the couch is the separator between the two rooms so fine they are not all in the same room.   Pastor Bill: [3:49] Okay well tonight's episode we have titled Unveiled, but before we get into, it's time to get to know the pastor's and it doesn't look like you've pulled out your card yet Pastor Newms it's your week.   Pastor Newms: [4:05] I know that because it was your week last week I just hadn't showed you that  I'm holding mine.   Pastor Bill: [4:10] And it's not even up this even-numbered episode sir.   Pastor Newms: [4:12] I don't pay attention to either of those two things so.   Pastor Bill: [4:16] You literally asked me what the episode number was earlier because you were making the folder.   Pastor Newms: [4:20] And yet you assumed I didn't have my card.   Pastor Bill: [4:23] I knew you didn't have your card ready because usually when it's your turn you're sitting there playing with it fidgeting.   Pastor Newms: [4:29] I do not fidget with the card.   Pastor Bill: [4:31] You're fidgeting with it right now.   Pastor Newms: [4:33] To ask I don't know what you're talking about sir I don't even know what gaslighting means.   Pastor Bill: [4:40] Gaslighting are you? You're the one who just brought that up. What does the card say. Silence, no he was rejected the first card.   Pastor Newms: [4:57] We're not doing that it there's too much ambiguity it's not actually going to tell us anything about ourselves other than we don't like it hot I mean we already know that so okay. Oh this one's going to break your brain because you can get real upset about this one you ready.   Pastor Bill: [5:17] Oh my goodness okay here we go.   Pastor Newms: [5:20] Thinking back to all the great TV series finales that you have ever seen over all the years. Which show do you believe had the best final episode. So of all your fandoms choose which one ended the best now I will not answer this question, because, I hate endings so I'm not going to answer the question but I will answer which is the worst of one of my favorite television shows and that is, a show from the 90s where old show from the 90s called Dark Angel and I own both the American and a Korean copy of the entire series. And the first season ends real well goes right into the second season real well, and then we get to the end of the second season and Dark Angel, who's played by Jessica Alba, who's a genetically created person blah blah blah blah blah she runs up this ramp and starts to jump this fence into this area too, in protest and in you know to go save the people in fight against the people that are in this area and as she's crossing over the fence the season ends because they were supposed to be a third season. And so forever she's just.   Pastor Bill: [7:12] She's just flying over.   Pastor Newms: [7:13] In the air just Midway over a fence that has. Barbed wire wrap on it there's been Fanfictions there was a comic book written about it but I've never looked at any of them just because I was so angry that they ended it that way, and I just thought about it it's probably a good time I should try to find it online and introduce the girls to that I think they might enjoy that show it was one of the first shows me and my wife watch together because I forced her to watch them when we were still friends back in the day and I made her watch the on a laptop the DVD versions that were from Korea. So Billiam, what is your answer?   Pastor Bill: [8:04] I have no idea.   Pastor Newms: [8:10] Come on that's not fair.   Pastor Bill: [8:22] Unveiled, unveiled tonight... I really like how they ended Sense8 on Netflix   Pastor Newms: [8:36] Never seen.   Pastor Bill: [8:38] A mind-bending psychological intimate Journey.   Pastor Newms: [8:41] Oh that thing.   Pastor Bill: [8:48] Not intended for those. It's NC-17 let's put it that way.   Pastor Newms: [8:59] Okay okay, so I will say another thing that's really important right now because it's just that cool there's nothing to do with anything we're talking about but I just got took a drink and so I want to show it sneak who is my favorite, energy drink company released metal shakers and it's laser-etched, tactile nice, tastes better because it's metal instead of plastic that allows you know Nast in two days because drinking out of plastic is disgusting so anyway I just wanted to throw that out there that good on them.   Pastor Bill: [9:49] Phoenix on Twitch says Game of Thrones was the worst ending.   Pastor Newms: [9:57] Never finished it couldn't get past how bad it got at certain points and just never finish.   Pastor Bill: [10:05] I wasn't happy with the way Angel ended, the series with David Boreanaz, they intentionally trigger the apocalypse to try to stop the secret society that was trying to end the world, and it's got like this horde of demons are coming and the last scene is Angels got this ax and he's running into the horde of demons, and it goes off, and it wasn't intended to be the end of the story it was just intended to be the end of the season because it was the most popular show on the network, and then they drug their feet on you know renewing everybody and so Josh Whedon went in and said hey my guys are getting offers from other shows, we need to know if we're being renewed or not and the network head thought he was giving him an ultimatum and so he just canceled the show instead of just level-headedly answering the question of whether or not the stars of the show should take the other offers they're getting or not and that was the death of that show.   Pastor Newms: [11:20] Which I never finished that show I enjoyed it.   Pastor Bill: [11:22] That's a good show they.   Pastor Newms: [11:26] Another one of those 90.   Pastor Bill: [11:28] Definitely should have replaced everyone in the writers room about halfway through the final season when they released an episode where all the characters get turned into puppets but other than that it's a great show.   Pastor Newms: [11:43] Yeah but that the 90s was the era of like let's do really dumb like we have this gritty Sci-Fi show and it's like let's, let's do something really stupid like make a whole episode of musical make a whole episode cartoon.   Pastor Bill: [11:57] Hey hey the musical ever.   Pastor Newms: [12:00] Make a whole episode no no no it was terrible.   Pastor Bill: [12:02] And test it.   Pastor Newms: [12:03] It was terrible I don't care I don't care the episode of Buffy where there's no speaking whatsoever I know.   Pastor Bill: [12:11] Songs in The Buffy Musical on our shared playlist. So how was your week pastor.   Pastor Newms: [12:31] Growl at you in disgust my week was good it was very good. It was good I was fixing to preface with I was very busy so I didn't get to play games as much as I enjoy and this was the last week of my training, at work next week I am by myself so it's just been a little bit of a stressful week but good overall, but I have was not happy with lots of situations in the amount of distressing that I was able to do throughout this week.   Pastor Bill: [13:16] And one that really got your goat the worst more than anything else that happened this week was the lack of Venom 2 leaks online.   Pastor Newms: [13:26] Okay I wasn't going to talk about that because that's illegal.   Pastor Bill: [13:29] You're not the one leaking it, you're just coming across them.   Pastor Newms: [13:33] We weren't going to talk about that but yeah that made me real mad on Friday night like a baby real mad. Real mad because we didn't want to go to the theater because it's so expensive to go to the theater even just for adults, the tickets are $14 a piece for a theater that I don't want to actually step in, because it's not a nice theater like if I was going to somewhere that had like you know red carpets and you know something like worth going into cool this is a movie theater and, a city here in Tennessee. I don't want to go there to begin with I don't want to go spend 40 sorry 53 whatever dollars just to walk in the door. I was so upset so we wouldn't play pool. Which is not bad because it's really weird that one of the pool halls here in Murfreesboro, is actually one of the top rated restaurants in on not the Uber Eats the other one. GrubHub, they're one of the top restaurants in GrubHub because certain of their food is just that good and like when I read that like in the bar you're like hmm right I bet it is you know and then I actually ordered the burger. And I was like oh. This burger is better than some actual burger places like this is, not all their food was great but their burger was I was like okay yeah I can see why someone would actually order this to be delivered to their house because some food I'm like why would you order that to be delivered to your house like I do, I don't get it but this I would this I would it was really good burger and so. And somehow it ended up talking for over 30 minutes with the waitress about things so you know as always I can't leave the house without, have you finished your opportunity at random places.   Pastor Bill: [16:08] Strip clubs, Walmart, restaurants.   Pastor Newms: [16:11] Now we hook why are you got it why are you got a straight up go with the worst one.   Pastor Bill: [16:16] We went to a.   Pastor Newms: [16:17] The past and it was yeah.   Pastor Bill: [16:18] Went to a strip club for this bachelor thing and and it me and my brother-in-law were sitting at the table and we noticed Newms has been missing for a while, he is outside, sitting with the strippers in the smoking section just having a normal conversation they're all fully dressed just being ladies just having their smoke breaks and he's out there like oh girl I feel ya I just hate it when that happens and I'm like, you ditched us inside to come hang out, he's outside and he's like hey man I just I'm just being me.   Pastor Newms: [16:53] It's odd it's really funny we talk about our relationship quite often, and you love Ministry and you love ministering to people that is something you love I, I would prefer to be not talks to normally at all, like even with, this podcast you had to drag me and force me you should really do the podcast part with me I don't want to do the podcast part with you I'll be with you for the other parts I'm not doing the you should really do but I don't want to be with you for the I don't need it I don't want it I don't, I don't need people to look at my face I don't want people to hear my voice I'm good and we're very different in those types of ways because you prefer you like that, and yet everywhere The Waitresses the cashiers the the yes Tina's like, why are you talking to the people what the girls are like Daddy stop talking to the people I didn't start the conversation, trying to go home too but once you know you get to a point where you're like, all right this person is talking to me or I'm talking to this person cool no problem and then like you know the Holy Spirit leads the conversation, to religion and you're like well now I can't walk away like I'm morally obligated now to finish the conversation until that person is done because if you pass up a Ministry opportunity. You're kind of a garbage person in my mind but.   Pastor Bill: [18:37] I would have to agree with that assessment.   Pastor Newms: [18:41] Biggs is correct it is because of him the same thing happens to him and it's you put the two of us out and you're not getting anywhere fast like just don't plan on you know which can run and grab food real quick now we're going to be there for an hour and a half, whether or not we're eating the whole time like you're not getting out of here and so yeah it is it is something that Biggs does as well and so but yeah ended up, very nice conversation with a lady who, is an ex-catholic in whose boyfriend is still in religion and she was struggling with it and ended up literally having a 30-minute conversation while she was trying to put in Tina's Wing order. And it was slow so she didn't have other tables so she was just standing at the table talking about you know at the pool table talking to us and I was like hi groggy and Heather just sat down there like what.   Pastor Bill: [19:32] This is going to be a while.   Pastor Newms: [19:33] It's fine anyway how was your.   Pastor Bill: [19:40] My week was great I think.   Pastor Newms: [19:44] You had date night.   Pastor Bill: [19:45] Date night yesterday which was very nice we went to an event by a company called fever the event was called House of Spirits, we got a VIP VIP entry and then they came with this lovely Scotch drinking cup not that I drink Scotch because I. Keep alcohol in the house at all.   Pastor Newms: [20:10] I was like scotch, that I can't imagine.   Pastor Bill: [20:13] Is that not a scotch cup that's the scotch cup is it.   Pastor Newms: [20:15] No no no you.   Pastor Bill: [20:16] But you can't imagine me.   Pastor Newms: [20:18] Imagine yeah.   Pastor Bill: [20:20] Now yeah so it was a.   Pastor Newms: [20:20] No that's not yeah I can't see that at all.   Pastor Bill: [20:22] It was they called it a haunted mini cocktail soiree, and it basically was there was like four stations with with cocktail stations and my wife BatBrain she put up the, the pictures on her Facebook page if you're friends with her on Facebook, and as for many cocktail stations and each one was named and and you know bespoke crafted around a different part or rather a different character of the overall ghost story surrounding the. And it was a lot of fun just to you know get around a bunch of adults and pretend that. I don't know we were just kind of there and it was like let's pretend it spooky and, have fun and there was a in the dark maze downstairs with, you know one jump-scare at the end and then there was a Monster Hunt upstairs where you basically just went from room to room and hung out with this this person to know, full costume inspired by the paintings of a Madman who was driven mad by losing his daughter and, and they were like they'd point something on the picture or they point a part of the room yet to find the thing they wanted to give it to them and then they point you out of the room and you'd go speak to the next person.   Pastor Newms: [21:50] It's definitely well done.   [21:58] Yeah these are really good pictures love her tights.   Pastor Bill: [22:02] All right so we had a lot of fun and but the last the last cocktail the VIP cocktail it was made with this ghost vodka oh yeah all you.   Pastor Newms: [22:14] That's a ghost.   Pastor Bill: [22:15] It's so spicy all you can taste is the spicy all that ghost vodka it doesn't even have any flavor it's so spicy it's just it just hurts it's just the pain of the spiciness, so that was that was a little intense but we had a lot of fun and then we went to Moxie's in Downtown Dallas I don't know if anybody's ever been to Moxie's bat-brains says thanks for the compliment on her pictures, she took all of those pictures except for the one that I edited were you know she was like do the mirror thing if you can and so I took, you know some pictures and then edit it in my Photoshop to make it look like she was looking at her mirror reflection was doing something different than her.   Pastor Newms: [22:59] And yeah.   Pastor Bill: [23:04] So it's a Moxie's and Moxie's is a um, it's known as a test kitchen so like when big restaurants want to try new recipes but they want to get a feel for them first they'll hire Moxie's to carry it on their menu for a while so each one that you go to has kind of a different, he's going to have a different menu then each other and the menu will change from time to time, but I got the so if you're headed to Moxie's in Dallas right now I got the the vindaloo is beef vindaloo on the menu but I substituted in for chicken let me tell you, it was real, then dilute this is wasn't like the watered-down Americanized cheapened you know mild stuff this was the I'm going to break off my piece of non and pick up some, um It's a vindaloo for my bowl and I'm going to put in my mouth and I'm going to start coughing and my sinuses are going to be instantly clearer than they've been in months, that kind of vindaloo, it was great. I fell asleep in the in the lift on the way to the event and then Roxanne fell asleep in the lift on the way back from the event so.   Pastor Newms: [24:18] You forced everyone to go to Facebook congratulations.   Pastor Bill: [24:23] Congratulations.   Pastor Newms: [24:24] In the in the middle of the middle of our livestream everyone with the face.   Pastor Bill: [24:35] What are we going to do there was an uptick in like three people came to Facebook all at the same time. You're welcome Facebook all right so that's all I really have to share about this week I. We can't think of anything else I need to share about this way that was the big highlight of my week was the date night with my wife.   Pastor Newms: [24:59] Date nights always good date night is always fun.   Pastor Bill: [25:04] Date night is good, Moxie's is a little expensive though just fair warning the only reason that I got the permission to stay and have a meal at Marty's is because it's somewhere that I wanted to try since I started driving for Uber every time I drop somebody off over there I be like I want to try that one day but it is, expensive but it was really good so yes I fall asleep if I close my eyes, that is a fact my biology my wife falls asleep if she's tipsy so I fell asleep on the way there she fell asleep on the way back. Because you know I close my eyes she's for like two seconds and then and then and I was out. Well not made of money and even insurance is too expensive so there you go.   Pastor Newms: [26:09] That's not a cheap procedure to begin with because you gotta do the whole sleep study stuff it's getting cheaper to actually do the sleep studies because they've started to do like at home sleep study.   Pastor Bill: [26:19] Yeah I can order an at-home sleep study it's like a hundred and fifty bucks a night but then how am I supposed to pay for a $3,000 apnea machine and.   Pastor Newms: [26:30] That's the that's the that's the problem some of them are very expensive.   Pastor Bill: [26:34] Some of the math like the cheapest one I could find.   Pastor Newms: [26:37] Well I'm.   Pastor Bill: [26:39] They would like six hundred dollars down and did it up.   Pastor Newms: [26:43] There's there's ways around it but you gotta go through a home health to get that and that of course is.   Pastor Bill: [26:54] Focus this back down in on the topic here because it's time for that we're talking about unveiled like the concept is unveiled so, we I say it a lot newms doesn't realize I say we say it but it's not we as me I say it we are not like Moses we are not veiled, and this is a concept that I've brought up from the very very beginning of the equation house and this was the thing that I was reading you know I was reading through the other day and I was like hey I didn't realize this is where I got that concept from, we brought that up last week and then it was just it wouldn't go away it was just on my heart that yeah okay this is what we need to talk about. We are in 2nd Corinthians chapter 3 I highly, if you've never read through 2nd Corinthians chapter 3 you should if you've never studied second Corinthians chapter 3, you should you should spend some time in second Corinthians chapter 3 because it's really good but for those of you who haven't read it yet I'm about to read it to you it's only, 18 verses, so I'm going to read it to you and then we'll focus in on just the part that we're talking about tonight and how it applies to the way I use it and and the concept here at The Ekklesian House and with The Berean Manifesto, and it's the concept we're talking about as presented in 2nd Corinthians has more than one facet to it and we can talk about you know, the different ways to look at it and then also you know like I said the way I'm using. So we'll certain in verse 1 of second Corinthians chapter 3 are we beginning to commend ourselves again, or do we need like some letters of recommendation to you or from you you yourselves are our letters, written on our hearts known and read by everyone, you show that you are Christ letter delivered by us not written with ink but with the spirit of the Living God not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human. Such is the confidence we have through Christ before God, it is not that we are competent in ourselves to claim anything as coming from ourselves, but our actor adequacy is from God he has made us competent to be Ministers of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the spirit for the letter kills but the spirit gives life. Now with the ministry that brought death chiseled and letters on Stones came with Glory, so that the Israelites were not able to gaze steadily at Moses's face because of its Glory which was set aside, how will the ministry of the spirit not be more glorious, for if the ministry that brought condemnation had Glory the ministry that brings righteousness overflows with even more Glory, in fact, what had been glorious is not glorious Now by comparison because of the glory that surpasses, for what was set aside was glorious what indoors will be even more glorious. Since then we have such a hope we act with great boldness, we are not like Moses who used to put a veil over his face to prevent the Israelites from gazing steadily until the end of the glory of what was being set aside, but their minds were hardened for to this day at the reading of the old Covenant the same Veil remains, is not lifted because it is only set aside I'm sorry I, mix the only where it's not supposed to be because it is set aside only in Christ yet still today whenever Moses is read a veil Lies over their heart, but whenever a person turns to the Lord the veil is removed, now the Lord is the spirit and where the spirit of the Lord is there is freedom. We all with unveiled faces, are looking as in a mirror at the glory of the Lord and are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, this is from the Lord who is the spirit okay. So what is Paul talking about here with Moses and a veil and the glory and all the stuff that he's talking about so in Exodus, where is The Exodus Exodus chapter 34, it talks about Moses would go into the tent of meeting and he would meet face-to-face with God, and then he'd come back out his face would be shining with the glory of the Lord so much so that the people in the camp of the Israelites were afraid, to talk to him afraid to go up and even be near him because he was showing with the glory of the Lord and they would sit there and they would stare at it. Until it faded and he became normal old Moses again and life went on, as normal okay you know that's that's fine so what Moses would start doing is he would put on a veil over his face. And we saw talking to God he take the veil off and then he'd leave this into meeting he'd put the veil back on and then he'd leave the veil on. And speak to the people on behalf of God like he had done when his face was glowing for them, and when his face would then stop glowing he'd leave the veil on. And people would think. He was still glowing with the glory of the Lord and had recently talked to God and that everything he was saying was still from this position of, someone that was heavily influenced by the glory of the Lord and it was this kind of this kind of little chink in his armor this little imperfection, that Moses kept this Veil on even though the glory had a faded and he was just regular old Joe Schmo again, okay so there's there's two concepts here that Paul is playing off of back and forth, one he's saying don't be ashamed of the Gospel, you are a Christian don't be ashamed of who you are don't be ashamed to let people know don't be ashamed of the glory of the Lord don't be ashamed of the fact that you are set apart to be holy don't be ashamed of that, at the same time because Paul's got to be, careful he's writing to Gentiles he's he knows Jews are going to be reading what he's writing he knows Romans are going to read it so he's got it he's got to say things that always mean multiple things and we've this, awesome thing together is awesome concept together to give a whole idea. At the same time he saying even though you've got this Christianity and you've got this glory and you've got this remember, you are still being renewed you when you look in the mirror still see Joe Schmo, and you are steadily being changed. So it's the same time that you're not ashamed of the Gospel you're not ashamed of your Christianity you're not ashamed of who you are in Christ don't pretend that you're. Don't pretend don't Vale your imperfections. In a veil of oh no I'm a Christian I'm perfect take it take it by my word the my face is glowing I've still got the glory. Do it the veil altogether, you don't be ashamed of the Gospel don't be ashamed of your Christian don't pretend to be perfect don't pretend like you don't have flaws don't pretend like you've never been to a strip club don't pretend like you don't play video games don't pretend like you don't have, a miniature cocktail and a date with your wife right, um you are a regular person a regular individual person and when I say you know we're not veiled here, that's what I'm talking about we're not ashamed of our faith we're not ashamed to sit to speak our faith and at the same time we're not afraid to wear shirts that have Deadpool riding a unicorn on, while we're doing Ministry with our microphones muted.   Pastor Newms: [36:52] It was not muted I must have I really did mute that to take a drink and then completely sat here letting you speak and not mute oops my bad, I said who me.   Pastor Bill: [37:06] Who me yeah you.   Pastor Newms: [37:06] No okay.   Pastor Bill: [37:09] So this is this is the concept here you know we live our lives unveiled because we not only want to spread the gospel but we want to use this friendship evangelism, um because evangelism in and of itself is not bad, in your face I don't really care about you I just care about numbers but oh yeah I do care about you. I just want to draw that back down to remind everyone of the thing that really hit home for me when we talk about evangelism, is if you aren't willing to give the person you're evangelizing your personal telephone number and take a call from them at 2 a.m. when they're having a crisis of faith, then you're not actually evangelizing you're not. You're doing what's called a cast seed you're throwing seeds and hoping for result but that's not evangelism.   Pastor Newms: Pastor Newms: [38:22] Well I'll disagree with that because there's there's two aspects of evangelism theirs, evangelism to bring people in and there's what we're actually supposed to be doing which isn't even evangelism but making disciples and I think they're in the modern Church those two things are extremely.   Pastor Bill: [38:45] I would say the word evangelism has dropped making disciples but originally to evangelize you would be making disciples.   Pastor Newms: [39:02] I mean maybe.   Pastor Bill: [39:04] But I'm also the guy that says.   Pastor Newms: [39:06] 45 minutes.   Pastor Bill: [39:07] I'm also the guy that says words are allowed to change meanings because that's how words work.   Pastor Newms: [39:17] So technically the word evangelize by definition is to convert someone to your religion so it's not actually a, at least the modern definition is it might not have been originally but that is the modern definition of the word evangelize. That being said I mean we made it 45 minutes in 46 minutes in at this point I can say it English is a terrible, and so you know it is. That aspect.   Pastor Bill: [40:03] And the word evangelize isn't even in the Bible.   Pastor Newms: [40:07] And that's something that you know me and you have had lots of conversations about and I was actually having a conversation about it yesterday with someone not knowing what today's topic was going to be about.   Pastor Bill: [40:17] Because I didn't tell you till this morning.   Pastor Newms: [40:20] I know about how there are, one of in my mind a major failing of the modern church is taking the Great Commission, and changing it to mean evangelization you know the Great Commission is go out and make disciples. You know and what a lot of people have done is to say okay well I've made a lot of converts and as big said there are some people who are better at just, throwing seed and aren't good at the interpersonal relationships. And that's you know all forms are needed as long as it's done in Love Don't spread hate on the street which I know Biggs doesn't I know he wouldn't mean that I'm just pressing. But I think that's a major thing in our churches that we have forgotten to do is that we have continued to just seek to convert people, and not build the relationship with God and I think that's cause a lot of failings and you know there's this whole deconstruction, that means deconstruction means two different things so it depends on what you feel about the movement on what that word means to you but that we're not gonna get into that on this week we've talked about that in the past.   Pastor Bill: [41:46] But we're not we're not anti deconstruction.   Pastor Newms: [41:50] One version yes we're not gonna get it again I was going to say we're not.   Pastor Bill: [41:53] Hello Paul said if you were ever with us.   Pastor Newms: [42:00] I understand but there is a point of deconstruction where when you take it to lump the entire church there are aspects I don't want to get into like you do like I do to you all the time there's a reason why I said what I said because this is a longer conversation because there the deconstruction movement as a whole me, exiting the Christian faith.   Pastor Bill: [42:21] Just thought I'd give you a little a little payback for last week.   Pastor Newms: [42:26] But leaving the Christian faith because the Christian faith is wrong is not what we condone of course because that's not what, but deconstructing the things you've learned as a Berean and figuring out what is actually valid because a lot that's taught isn't is what we do can do which is a form of deconstruction.   Pastor Bill: [42:47] What my last my last word on deconstruction is if you leave the Christian faith because you don't believe in it I'd rather you find that out now, then after you die and you're at the judgment and then you find out you never actually believed in it and you lived your whole life a lie, with no chance of having salvation because you believed a lie so there you go that's my last statement on that.   Pastor Newms: [43:13] And you'll have to go from here because I don't remember anywhere that I was going.   Pastor Bill: [43:18] I wait wait wait wait wait wait lead you.   Pastor Newms: [43:25] It's okay I just have no idea.   Pastor Bill: [43:27] What were we even talking about.   Pastor Newms: [43:29] Evangelism and the conversations I had with someone this week and I don't remember what part I was talking about.   Pastor Bill: [43:35] Well they thought Concepts being real being unveiled in.   Pastor Newms: [43:40] Yeah but it was something though.   Pastor Bill: [43:42] So you know when I see when I hear of and see churches that are have that concept of, you just you just bring them in here you bring them into the church and will lead them to the Lord you just bring them in instead of the church equipping people to make disciples. They you know cut the actual work of the Christian themself out of the equation, and just bring them in to let the church do the work bring them into the church to the work that you're supposed to be doing. The church isn't staffed to disciple hundreds of people at a time that's what the Christians are supposed to be doing.   Pastor Newms: [44:24] We're all individually supposed to be doing that so unveiled I think one of the huge issues in the Christian faith, the modern Sea church that's caused a lot of deconstruction is people not being real, you've got these pastors that have struggles and don't talk about them and I'm not saying you to talk about all your struggles from the pulpit it's not always appropriate some are some aren't you know, we are little different because we are a little different but people don't talk to even the people around them their support, about their struggles and then all of a sudden you hear such and such pasture was embezzling or such and such pastor had an affair such-and-such Pastor walked away or such-and-such Pastor was never actually a Christian in his walked away from the faith because he read one thing that blew him away or.   Pastor Bill: [45:17] Or committed suicide and only his wife knew he was struggling what.   Pastor Newms: [45:24] Which and you have you have a support group around you as a pastor you should you should have pastors that are ministering to you both me and Bill, neither one of us are like oh well we are pastors at a church so, we know everything and we don't do anything else no I fully attend most of the time another church Bill listens to lots of other speakers that Minister into him. Because we both know you can't. Just be the end most good pastors you'll hear them say this is the person I consider to be my pastor and you're like wait what. And it's usually like a campus pastor at one of the facilities that they are at or they're the pastor that was above them originally and so they still listen to everything that he puts out and talks to him on a weekly basis you know things like that.   Pastor Bill: [46:21] It's a good sign another good sign to hear from your pastor is oh I stole this concept from so-and-so or I stole this concept from so and so and they should listen all these other pastors that I got this concept that were preaching today from this, that's a really good sign that you know they're working on themselves or submitted to other teachings that's the only reason why I mention, that I read nine commentaries is so that people understand when I say hey this scripture means this it means that because I've read nine commentaries from people, ranging over the last 200 years and the consensus of the last 200 years of theologians I'm not making it up I'm Gonna Know.   Pastor Newms: [47:12] Which they can still all be wrong does.   Pastor Bill: [47:13] They could absolutely one hundred percent.   Pastor Newms: [47:16] But but it is one of those things where you, we're always at least here we are always very open about we're not right. We think we're correct but we have both been proven wrong more than once we've both been proven wrong more than once while talking here by the other person and then have to go back and go hmm. Oops.   Pastor Bill: [47:51] Gone in to prepare to speak you know to recording these podcasts and been proven Wrong by the scriptures on what I thought something was and I'm going how have I missed this all this time what.   Pastor Newms: [48:06] Yeah and it's very very easy, to happen because we as humans we put our faith in other people and other things, and when a teacher that you trust tells you something often times you absorb it and make it part of you without ever, truly looking at it which is while Paul brings up the Brand's at all of hey I really like these guys because they don't trust me at all and when you stop and think about it you're like wait what Paul, shouldn't date because we're taught some Churches they teach if your pastor says that it's true.   Pastor Bill: [48:50] And if you question it then you should be somewhere else you should need to go somewhere.   Pastor Newms: [48:55] Elder says it yeah but I think we always have to be questioning because it always has to go back to the scriptures I've been in conversations where it's like well where is that oh it's here, and you go back and read it you're like oh that's odd why have I never seen that you know and, you know I definitely think it's something that that being unveiled is so important because it is. Showing that we all have struggles and we all need help every day and the second, like I mentioned before which I didn't really even think about the second half of being unveiled because I only go to the negative normally not the positive I didn't think about any of the fact of what my stories were in the beginning of this talked about the second half which is, the holy spirit will bring people to you, don't hide from what you are which don't start with me I don't need to hear it sir I can see your judgey face from here. Those listen to the podcasts that can't see how judgy his face is but just imagine it's very judgy because now he's going yeah says can say to I was gonna bring it up yeah, so we all struggle with things and so you know, I think it's one of those things that we have to look at and I also find it interesting one thing I did want to bring up. We get towards the end which I you know is always dangerous. Chapter 4 in second Corinthians starts with therefore.   Pastor Bill: [50:41] Oh my.   Pastor Newms: [50:43] Which we always talk about that's so important chapter 4, of second Corinthians starts with therefore and so you're like oh cry like you made this point it's a really good point and he's got a second follow-up, that the biblical writers were that mean the people who dissected the Bible for what we currently have we're like oh here's a good split which with Paul's writings it's almost impossible because he is a master of run-on sentences and run on thoughts, and so like there's no good breaks in like very very very very few times is like chapters are versus good brakes with Paul but, he says you know therefore since we have this ministry because we were shown Mercy we do not give up instead we renounce, secret and shameful things not acting deceitfully or distorting the word of God. Commending ourselves before God to everyone's conscious by open display of truth if our gospel is veiled it is veiled to those who are perishing, and then it goes on about a bunch more about unbelievers and and other aspects but it's that one part that I found interesting is instead you know we've renounced the secret and shameful things not acting deceitfully or distorting the word of God, not saying you know we do this and that means it's okay.   Pastor Bill: [52:13] Per se.   Pastor Newms: [52:14] For everyone.   Pastor Bill: [52:15] Even someone like me. Can receive the Gospel and salvation that's what Paul is saying there even someone like me.   Pastor Newms: [52:29] Cuz I cuz I messed up a bunch and let's be honest there are very few people that this podcast will reach, I'm not saying none but few that, we're as bad as saw was like it could if it gets into a prison ministry somewhere or some ex convert convert, the word that bill will say in a second because I can't find it, you know if you've done some like truly too because Paul did he did some truly Terrible Things assault and then was like, oops and so that's his point there's even if you know therefore this is why I'm saying this you know we have to live, unveiled to show people you know.   Pastor Bill: [53:19] It is part of the Gospel message, to not be flaky and to not pretend you're okay and to not pretend everything's hunky-dory and let people know that even a messed-up slob like me who's done the things that I've done is worthy of salvation,can be changed by God and that changes on.   Pastor Newms: [53:49] And that's always something that is interesting to look at of those types of aspects of you know there's, it's just he was very good writer and it's very interesting sometimes all the concepts he puts into one chapter, because that chapter is definitely a lot I read it several times today going okay Paul. Sentence and you've got several Concepts going in the same chapter, I actually went back to the KJV for a minute just because I was like okay I've learned this at one point, what's something that's not sticking because I'm reading it differently this time we go back to the these in the vowels because I'm missing something and oh okay I see now, that's what I was missing because I did so much of my study in the past in that it's sometimes hard to equate the newer translations.   Pastor Bill: [54:51] On that as we you know wind down now funny fact from history. In the creams English which is what the KJV is written in it's called the queen's English it's not old English is not quite Middle English and the queen's English the terms of thee and thou, these are the casual ways of saying things. These are not the Pomp and official sounding these are the way that Beggars speak. The king you would never find royalty or someone that was highly respected in society, saying the and thou when they were talking so when someone you know is reading the scripture like vocalist say these heated and then they pray that way and stuff like that. Doing their best impersonation of a popper covered in mud who just left the pig farm and is doing their best to speak in the public market and I just think that's so funny because it's got this. These overtones of well I'm better than you because I say thee and thou and my Bible says thee and thou and it and then in the context of the queen's English it's actually just the opposite. It's a little funny detail from history there for you alright now we need to give a 30-second buffer or some of our.   Pastor Newms: [56:24] No now we need to say our byes first.   Pastor Bill: [56:27] I thought we did the Bubba's yeah you're right we did the Baba's before we do the 30 seconds.   Pastor Newms: [56:31] We decided to switch it last week which completely wrecked to you and so I did.   Pastor Bill: [56:37] I don't know what to do with myself, all right so we record this every Sunday night when we do record it as 6:30 p.m. Central Standard Time and I'd like to invite anyone listen to this to come join us live you can participate on Twitch you're going to Facebook YouTube, any of those places you can comment live in the chat and we will see it and you can be a part of the conversation we love having people be a part of the conversation, um and it really does deepen the way things go nothing that happened tonight, as far as you know, building upon and people asking questions something like this but that's okay it doesn't have to happen you're not required to participate in the chat you are invited too, and we try to keep it on topic as much as possible but you know what I don't even know is not always going to happen back when we were meeting.   Pastor Newms: [57:35] You think you think you think this is bad as far as being on topic this is this is on top.   Pastor Bill: [57:44] This isn't done.   Pastor Newms: [57:45] We this is we if you ever join us in our streaming, that that is that is that is us not on.   Pastor Bill: [57:54] Does all over the.   Pastor Newms: [57:55] And it is it is scary to places we can end up but anyway.   Pastor Bill: [58:01] Now we're bad just you know not necessarily bad.   Pastor Newms: [58:06] No not necessarily bad but what I mean is is I always joke I was listening to my Spotify, at the at the pool hall I loaded up my my eyes I put 20 bucks.   Pastor Bill: [58:19] Yours or mine.   Pastor Newms: [58:21] Started queuing mine I started queuing up songs for my Spotify into the Jukebox and, the lady actually came up to us and was like are you guys playing all of this music and we're like not all but a lot of it. I can't tell what you guys and what isn't it was like yeah you won't be able to because it was me Zaydiee and Phoenix I don't know if groggy was queuing anything up I don't remember. And all of us are very eclectic and so the music was just all over the place Zaydiee put some Striper in there at one point even so I mean it went all over the place, and so yeah good luck I feel sorry for the person who has to figure out what my browsing, I have an NSA agent I am sorry homie like I am bad but.   Pastor Bill: [59:15] All right, this podcast comes out every Wednesday night at 7 p.m. Central Standard Time wherever you get your podcasts we actually just joined another podcast host that I didn't know existed and they reached out to us of a Vurbl, so if you're on Vurbl and you haven't been here in The Berean Manifesto we are officially on Vurbl now, like I said we try to keep up with every podcast host and as they pop up we try to make sure we're on there as well, what are you grinning at over there Pastor Newms.   Pastor Newms: [59:48] You can hear us vurbly or non-verbally.   Pastor Bill: [59:49] Your has verbally and verbal all right so that was everything right you give me you give me so sidetracked, come join us live on Sunday nights please do the podcast comes out on Wednesdays, if you like our content if we've helped you or made you laugh or just made you smile or and you think someone else could deal do with having a smile or could be helped by us. Please share like our content share our content we're not, trying to get o get big and famous or make a whole bunch of money we talked about friendship evangelism because we literally want to be able to interact on a personal level with people, and so it's not about getting big but it is about reaching those who need, the message they need to be included they need to have family spiritual family and so that's really what we want to do so if there's somebody that you know needs this, please share with them and point them our way and that's really all we have for tonight so would love you guys, have a great week now your catchphrase Pastor Newms.   Pastor Newms: Be safe out there. (I love messing with him)   Pastor Bill: And until next time...

Five Stripe Weekly
CAN ATLANTA UNITED MAKE THE PLAYOFFS? + JOSEF MARTINEZ HITS 100! | FIVE STRIPE WEEKLY #199

Five Stripe Weekly

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 13, 2021 27:33


In this episode, AJ and Marc catch up and talk about the Atlanta United vs CF Montreal match in a new free flow format! They also catch you up on the news from the past week and preview the match vs the Toronto FC. What are your thoughts? COMMENT TO JOIN IN! TODAY'S SPONSOR: Thinking Man Tavern is a cozy neighborhood pub where you can grab a tasty beverage or something delicious from the menu - to go! Locally sourced, house made and offering curbside takeout. Simply pay for your to go order over the phone, let them know when you've arrived, and they will bring the food to you. Curbside service will be available during normal business hours. Also on GrubHub, DoorDash and Uber Eats. Go check out Thinking Man Tavern! Google Maps: https://goo.gl/maps/2Lf2CPUbqvTRVkLj9 --------- We've launched a Patreon! We're constantly leveling up our video and social media content and you can help us sustain the channel and assist from a grassroots level. Help us make more of the content you want to see! Join us! http://patreon.com/atlutdfantv --------- ▶ Find our podcast in audio form on your favorite podcatchers! --------- ▶ Support the channel while you shop for ATL UTD gear (at no extra cost to you!): https://www.amazon.com/shop/atlantaunitedfantv --------- ▶ COP FROM OUR SHOP (grab some ATL UTD fan gear!): https://teechip.com/stores/tackl --------- About Atlanta United Fan TV: We are created by fans for the fans of Atlanta United and soccer. Join the community to get in on the conversation! Bringing you fan cams, podcasts, vlogs, mini-documentaries and much more! If you're a Five Stripe, we want to hear from you! Whatever you want to say about ATL UTD you can say it in the comments below. And to get in touch with us, connect with us: ▶ INSTAGRAM: https://goo.gl/9uOLVn ▶ TWITTER: https://goo.gl/5uc709 ▶ TWITCH: https://www.twitch.tv/atlutdfantv ▶ DISCORD: https://discord.gg/C4RXb2b ▶ FACEBOOK: https://tinyurl.com/y3ga5mst ▶ SNAPCHAT: atlutdfantv17 ▶ TIK TOK: atlutdfantv --------- #ATLUTD #UniteAndConquer #AD #MLS

Welcome to the OC, Bitches!
The Proposal with Alan Dale

Welcome to the OC, Bitches!

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 12, 2021 70:39


Rachel and Melinda discuss “The Proposal,” (S1 Ep24). They're joined by Alan Dale, who you may know from Entourage, Lost, and Dynasty, but most likely, The OC, where he played Caleb Nichol.  Hear how this New Zealand kiwi made his way to the US to expand his acting career where he's played several roles, many of them ending in a heart attack! Alan shares his favorite acting role, tells a story of a hair mishap the day they shot the famous booty call scene, and comments on why Caleb proposes to Julie. In The Proposal, which some refer to as “the episode that destroyed everything,” the hosts discuss how the gruesome twosome's union will change the lives of all characters on the show. Find out which storyline Rachel loved and the scene she couldn't stop laughing while shooting, plus, way more memories from this episode. The Proposal Synopsis: The Balboa Lighthouse is almost open but a major roadblock, the loss of their liquor license, stands to ruin it all. Luke is leaving Newport but first wants forgiveness from Marissa. When neither she nor Julie will talk to him, he drinks too much and nearly dies. Caleb proposes to Julie and to make her happy, strikes a deal with Marissa. Seth and Summer undergo a massive home repair project to make Marissa feel more at home at Jimmy's. Leave the OC, Bitches a message: https://www.speakpipe.com/ocbitches Please support our sponsors: Get Rachel and Melinda's favorite razor from Billie! Visit https://www.Mybillie.com/OC to get your starter kit for only $9 plus FREE shipping. Hungry? Grubhub to the rescue! Get a Free Delivery Perk on your first order from Panera of $15 or more. Order through the app or at https://www.Grubhub.com. Get beautiful salon-perfect nails at home with Olive & June! Visit https://www.OliveandJune.com/OC and use code OC for 20% off your first Mani System!  Don't fall for subscription scams. Start canceling today at https://www.Truebill.com/OC.  Follow https://www.instagram.com/rachelbilson & https://www.instagram.com/themelindaclarke on Instagram! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Tech Lead Journal
#59 - DevOps Solutions to Operations Anti-Patterns - Jeffery Smith

Tech Lead Journal

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 11, 2021 52:23


“DevOps is about creating a collaborative environment between the development team and the operations team, and aligning goals and incentives between those two teams. Because so many of the problems that we encounter in life, not just even in technology, are due to misalignment of goals." Jeffery Smith is the author of “Operations Anti-Patterns, DevOps Solutions” and the Director of Production Operations at Centro. In this episode, Jeffery described DevOps essentials and emphasized what DevOps is not. He also explained about CAMS, a framework that outlines the core components required for successful DevOps transformation. We then discussed three anti-patterns taken from his book: paternalist syndrome, alert fatigue, and wasting perfectly good incident; and he explained how to recognize those anti-patterns in order to avoid them on our DevOps journey. Finally, Jeffery also talked about postmortem and shared tips on how to cultivate a good postmortem culture. Listen out for: Career Journey - [00:04:47] DevOps - [00:09:13] CAMS - [00:12:42] Why DevOps Anti-Patterns - [00:16:48] Anti-Pattern 1: Paternalist Syndrome - [00:19:55] Anti-Pattern 2: Alert Fatigue - [00:27:20] Anti-Pattern 3: Wasting a Perfectly Good Incident - [00:34:33] Postmortem - [00:39:59] 4 Tech Lead Wisdom - [00:45:57] _____ Jeffery Smith's Bio Jeffery Smith has been in the technology industry for over 15 years, oscillating between management and individual contributor. Jeff currently serves as the Director of Production Operations for Centro, a media services and technology company headquartered in Chicago, Illinois. Before that he served as the Manager of Site Reliability Engineering at Grubhub. Jeff is passionate about DevOps transformations in organizations large and small, with a particular interest in the psychological aspects of problems in companies. He lives in Chicago with his wife Stephanie and their two kids Ella and Xander. Follow Jeffery: Website – https://attainabledevops.com/ Twitter – @DarkAndNerdy LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffery-smith-devops Our Sponsor Are you looking for a new cool swag? Tech Lead Journal now offers you some swags that you can purchase online. These swags are printed on-demand based on your preference, and will be delivered safely to you all over the world where shipping is available. Check out all the cool swags by visiting https://techleadjournal.dev/shop. Like this episode? Subscribe on your favorite podcast app and submit your feedback. Follow @techleadjournal on LinkedIn, Twitter, and Instagram. Pledge your support by becoming a patron. For more info about the episode (including quotes and transcript), visit techleadjournal.dev/episodes/59.

RB Daily
Jobs, Subway, Grubhub

RB Daily

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 11, 2021 4:08


Restaurant hiring is slowing down. A judge sides with Subway in a fishy tuna lawsuit. And Grubhub's founder is parting ways with the company.

Today in PA | A PennLive daily news briefing with Julia Hatmaker

Pennsylvania still technically recognizes Columbus Day although many of its cities are today observing Indigenous Peoples' Day. Philly is thinking of making a 15 percent cap on food delivery fees for services like Grubhub permanent. This is the 4-1-1 on where to see the best fall foliage in the state. Finally, this pumpkin in Allentown grew to be so big, Cinderella could use it as an SUV. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Geobreeze Travel
Episode 51 - Growing a YouTube + Using Award Travel for Medical Procedures with Dustin Waller

Geobreeze Travel

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 10, 2021 37:15


Dustin Waller of @wallerswallet hosts a Youtube channel that teaches viewers how to find the cards that work best for them and how to make the most of their points with award travel. In this episode, Dustin and I discuss how he grew his points YouTube channel, and also how the magic of points and miles helped him and his wife grow their family by making in-vitro fertilization more affordable by traveling abroad for the procedure. When you sign up with Fluz using my referral code GEOBREEZETRAVELPODCAST, you'll receive 3 vouchers to earn up to 35% cashback on merchants such as Grubhub, CVS, and more. You also earn a high cashback voucher for each friend you refer to the app! And if you would be interested in hosting a PAID collaboration with Fluz, send me an email at julia@geobreezetravel.com letting me know you're interested, and I'll introduce you to the marketing team! Check out the show notes to download the Fluz app! Thank you to Fluz for partnering with us on this episode of the Geobreeze Travel podcast! Download the Fluz app at: https://joinfluz.app.link/GEOBREEZETRAVELPODCAST You can find Dustin at: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wallerswallet Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/WallersWallet You can find Julia at: Website: https://www.geobreezetravel.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/geobreezetravel Credit card links: https://www.geobreezetravel.com/cards Masterclasses: https://www.geobreezetravel.com/hangouts Patreon to access recordings of masterclasses: https://www.patreon.com/geobreezetravel Award travel coaching call: https://www.geobreezetravel.com/calendly Sign up for the newsletter and get exclusive access to sign up for free coaching calls: https://www.geobreezetravel.com/free-coaching Geobreeze Travel is part of an affiliate sales network and receives compensation for sending traffic to partner sites, such as MileValue.com. This compensation may impact how and where links appear on this site. This site does not include all financial companies or all available financial offers. Terms apply to American Express benefits and offers. Enrollment may be required for select American Express benefits and offers. Visit americanexpress.com to learn more.

Rising Above
Red Bike Delivery: Interview with Jeremy Hurt

Rising Above

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 7, 2021 90:36


Repeat guest Jeremy Hurt came back to share whats been going on. Jeremy is the owner of Red Bike delivery an all green alternative to Uber Eats, or Grub Hub or services alike. #Rising Above #risingabovepodcast  Social Media:  Instagram: dave_hess28  Facebook: Rising Above Podcast  Email: @risingabovewithdavidhess@gmail.com   Can be found on all podcast streaming services  Check out Red Bike delivery on social media! --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/risingabove/support

Reset
How food delivery apps destabilized an industry

Reset

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 6, 2021 15:08


Food delivery apps like Grubhub, DoorDash, and Uber Eats may have made life easier for customers, but delivery workers are the ones paying the price. Left without protections, workers in New York City are calling for change. The Verge's Josh Dzieza (@joshdzieza) explains. References:  Read Josh's story for Curbed here  Enjoyed this episode? Rate Recode Daily ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ and leave a review on Apple Podcasts.   What do you want to learn about on Recode Daily? Send your requests and questions to recodedaily@recode.net. We read every email!    Subscribe for free. Be the first to hear the next episode of Recode Daily by subscribing in your favorite podcast app.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices This episode was made by:  Host: Adam Clark Estes (@adamclarkestes) Producer: Alan Rodriguez Espinoza (@ardzes) Engineer: Paul Robert Mounsey Support Recode Daily by making a financial contribution to Vox! bit.ly/givepodcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Myths and Legends
241-African Folklore: Hippopotamaster

Myths and Legends

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 6, 2021 45:26


In a story from the folklore of the Sorko people who lived along the Niger river in West Africa, a hippo is causing all sorts of trouble. I mean, hippos are dangerous, but ones that can sprout ovens on their back and shoot fire streams like some kind of final-evolution Pokemon mean this village needs a hero. The creature is Babamik! She's a deranged murderer who had it all...until her daughter started dating. -- Sponsors: Indeed! Get started right now with a $75 sponsored job credit to upgrade your job post at http://indeed.com/legends Grove! Get awesome stuff delivered to your door. Go to http://grove.com/legends for a free starter pack! Grubhub! Check it out! Order through the Grubhub app or online at http://grubhub.com MeUndies! Get 15% off your first order, free shipping AND a 100% satisfaction guarantee at http://meundies.com/myths -- Links: Hobbit feet: https://myths.link/feet Store: https://myths.link/store Membership: https://www.mythpodcast.com/membership Source: https://myths.link/miriam -- Music: Music by Podington Bear and Blue Dot Sessions See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Carl Gould #70secondCEO
CarlGould-#70secondCEO- Rethinking Your Business Model

Carl Gould #70secondCEO

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 5, 2021 1:25


Big picture thinking to maximize your area of business, a quick daily hit with Carl Gould to achieve a lifetime of results.  Read full transcript: Hi everyone, Carl Gould here with your #70secondCEO. Just a little over a one minute investment every day for a lifetime of results. I was talking to a grub hubber, a delivery service I would say let's look at what your core competency is, you move things from point A to point B, it just so happened you started out in the food delivery service but what else could you deliver? Could you pick up somebody's tailoring, their dry cleaning, their laundry? Could you pick up something from the pharmacy for them, all you are is a messenger service, you bring things from point A to point B, so I would say you have a lot of real estate you're moving around at a very low cost at a very low revenue, so in other words if I'm grub hubber I've got a couple of bags of food on my front or back seat but what about the trunk, that's not full, what about the back seat, that's not full, so where else can we be providing services for people and getting them from point A to point B? Most people live and operate in a 10 mile radius of their home, so that's where Grub Hub drivers are within that 10 mile radius, what other errands can we do, that's where I'll be looking at. Like and follow this podcast so you can learn more. My name is Carl Gould and this has been your #70secondCEO.

The Nathan Barry Show
050: Dave Pell - Lessons From Two Decades of Publishing Online

The Nathan Barry Show

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 4, 2021 62:22


Dave Pell has been writing online for almost as long as the internet has existed. His popular newsletter, NextDraft, has over 140,000 subscribers. NextDraft covers the day's ten most fascinating news stories, delivered with a fast and pithy wit.Dave has been a syndicated writer on NPR, Gizmodo, Forbes, and Huffington Post. He earned his bachelor's degree in English from U.C. Berkeley, and his master's in education from Harvard.Besides being a prolific writer, Dave is also the Managing Partner at Arba, LLC. For more than a decade, Arba has been angel investing in companies like Open Table, GrubHub, Marin Software, Hotel Tonight, Joyus, and Liftopia.In this episode, you'll learn: How Dave merged his two writing passions into a successful product The key to building a strong relationship with your audience How Dave dramatically increased signups to NextDraft Links & Resources Flicker Unsplash Fareed Zakaria Jim Rome The Skimm Morning Brew The Hustle Spark Loop Sam Spratt Dave Pell's Links Dave Pell on Twitter NextDraft newsletter Dave's new book: Please Scream Inside Your Heart NextDraft app PleaseScream.com Episode Transcript[00:00:00] Dave:If you have something to say in one way or another, the internet is a great place for people to figure out a way to receive it. So, that's pretty powerful and still excites me. I still press publish with the same enthusiasm now than I did when the internet first launched.[00:00:23] Nathan:In this episode I talk to Dave Pell, who has been writing for basically as long as the internet has been around. He's been an investor since the early days. He's been writing since the.com bust, and even before then. He writes his popular newsletter with 140,000 subscribers called Next Draft.We have this really fun conversation about writing. His writing process. How he grew the newsletter. Bunch of other things that he cares about. Even a few things that I was interested in, like he doesn't have his face in photos on the internet very much. He has his avatar instead. So, just getting into why that is.He also has a book coming out soon. It's called Scream Inside Your Heart, which is a fun reference to some memes from 2020. So, enjoy the episode. There's a lot in there.Dave. Welcome to the show.[00:01:12] Dave:Thanks a lot for having me on.[00:01:14] Nathan:Okay. So you've been doing this for a long time. You've been writing on the internet since the .com era. So, I'm curious maybe just to kick things off, what have you seen—I realize this is a giant question.What have you seen change? What are some of those trends that you've seen, that you either really miss from the early days, or some of those things that you've held onto from the early days of the internet, that you're really still enjoying?[00:01:46] Dave:Yeah, that is a pretty huge question, but I'll give it a shot. The thing I miss from the early days of the internet is that our democracy was not being destroyed by the internet in the early days of the internet. So, everything we thought we were building, basically it turned out to be the opposite of what actually happened.The part about the internet that I still feel is there, although a little bit less so because of the big companies have sort of taken over all the platforms and stuff, is just the idea that someone can have a passion or a creative output that they want to share with the world, and they can mold internet tools to fit their skills, and then use the internet to broadcast that out, and still become sort of pretty popular withour the “OK” of some gatekeeper at a publication, or at a television studio, or whatever.The indie spirit of the internet still lives on. It ebbs and flows, and has a lot of different iterations. But that was the thing that excited me the most when I first played with the internet. And that's the thing that continues to excite me the most now.[00:02:57] Nathan:I always think of the newsletter, and your newsletter in particular, is that indie spirit. Is that what you see most commonly in newsletters? Or are you seeing it in other places as well?[00:03:10] Dave:I see it in podcasts. I see it in newsletters. I see it in people sharing their art, sharing their photography on Flicker, and up through the more modern tools. I go to a site called Unsplash all the time to look at images, and it's just basically regular people sharing their images.Some of them are professional photographers, some aren't, and they're getting their work out there, and then some of them probably get jobs out of it and stuff like that. So, just the idea that you can have some kind of creative output and have a place to share it. And try to get an audience for that is really inspiring.It's a lot harder than it used to be because there's a few billion more people trying to get attention also, and because there are more gatekeepers now. So, you have to, hope that your app meets Apple's guidelines, or that different products you might want to share on the internet have to meet certain classifications now, whereas they might not have in the very early days of the internet. But in general, if you have something to say in one way or another, the internet is a great place for people to figure out a way to receive it.So, that's pretty powerful, and, still excites me. I still press published with the same enthusiasm now that I did when the internet first launched.[00:04:32] Nathan:Yeah. So let's talk about the main project that you have right now, which is Next Draft. Give listeners the 30-second pitch on Next Draft, of what it is.[00:04:46] Dave:Sure. Basically I call myself the managing editor of the internet. What I basically do is a personality-driven news newsletter where I cover the day's most fascinating news. I cover 10 stories. A lot of times in each section there's more than one link. I give my take on the day's news, each individual story, and then I link off to the source for the full story.When I first launched it, I called it Dinner Party Prep. I provided enough information for you to sort of get the gist of the story. And if there's topics you want to dig deeper, you just click and, you know, go get the story yourself. So that's sort of the overview of it.[00:05:27] Nathan:Nice. And you said that you're obsessed with the news maybe in a somewhat, even unhealthy way. why, where did that come from?[00:05:36] Dave:Yeah. Well, nothing, nothing about my relationship with the internet is only somewhat unhealthy. it's all extremely unhealthy, but, both my parents are Holocaust survivors and, when I was growing up, news was just a very big part of our daily lives, especially when my three older sisters moved out and it was just the three of us, that was sort of our mode of communication.We talked about the news. We watched the news together. Fareed Zakaria is basically the sun my parents always wanted. but so I got really into the news and being able to connect the news to, our everyday lives, which of course my parents had experienced as children and teens and Europe during world war II.And also reading between the lines about why certain politicians might be saying something, why stories are getting published a certain way. So I just got really into that and I've always been into a and college, you know, I, I majored in English, but if we had minors at Berkeley, I would have minored in journalism.I took a bunch of journalism courses. I've always been really into the media, but not so much as quite an insider where I go to work for a newspaper, but more observing, the news and providing sort of a lit review of what's happening and what has momentum in the news. So I sorta got addicted to it and, Also as a writer.My favorite thing to do is counter punch. I like to have somebody give me a topic and then I like to be able to quickly share my take, or make a joke or create a funny headline about that content. So I sorta took those two passions of the way I like to write. I like to write on deadline. I like to write fast and I like to counter punch and the content that I like, which is news, and I sort of merged those two things and created a product, and a pretty cool suite of internet tools to support that.[00:07:35] Nathan:Yeah. So that makes sense that you've identified the constraints that match your style and made something exactly that fits it. the deadline, like having, he, you know, coming out with something on a daily basis, is more than a lot of creators want to do. so what's your process there?[00:07:55] Dave:Yeah. I mean, I should emphasize that I do it every day. Not because I think it's some incredible draw for readers to get Daily Content. I do it every day because I'm addicted to it. If my newsletter had five stories in it, instead of 10, it would do better. If my newsletter came out three days a week instead of five days a week, I'm sure it would do better.If it came out once a week, it would do even better then you know, also if I had a more marketable or not marketable, but a more, business-oriented topic that was more narrow, it would do better. I used to write a newsletter that was just on tech and it was. Really popular in the internet professional community back in the first boom, I had about 50,000 subscribers and there were probably about 52,000 internet professionals.So I just like writing about what I want to write about and I'm addicted to pressing the publish button and I'm just addicted to the process. So I do it because of that. I'm not sure that would be my general advice to somebody trying to market or promote a newsletter.[00:09:01] Nathan:Yep. Are there other iterations, either ever before or things that you tried that you realized like, oh, that's not a fit for your personality, your writing style?[00:09:09] Dave:Yeah. When I first started it, I actually, I'm an angel investor also and have been since, probably right after Google and Yahoo launched. so a while, and I used to, my passion has always been writing, so I wanted to mix writing into that, process. So I would send out 10. Daily stories, but they were all tech news related to the CEOs of the companies I worked with and a few of their employees, so that they wouldn't have to spend their time reading the news or worrying about competitors or worry about what the latest trends in tech, where I would give it to them.And they could focus on doing their jobs and that sorta got shared and got out. so I did that for a few years. really, that was my iteration. I should've kept the brand. It was called David Netflix. not that it was a great name, but I've shifted brands about 40 times in my life. Cause I love branding and naming.I that's another, maybe this is more of a cautionary tale than a lesson and newsletter marketing. I would stick with a brand if anybody has the possibility of doing that, that was a big mistake I've made over the years is having multiple brands. But when the bus came, the first internet bust, I basically was writing an obituary column every day and about companies that had failed.So I just decided, I wanted to expand it and I knew I was interested in much broader topics than just tech news. So I expanded it to all news, a critical point that, really changed Next Draft and got it to catch on and become more popular was when I decided to focus on making it more personality driven and less, less overwhelmingly, providing an overwhelming level of coverage.I used to think that I had to provide all the news in the day because people would sort of, depend on me to provide their news. I was sort of selling myself as your trusted news source. So I would include a lot of stories that I didn't have anything to say about because they were huge news, you know, an embassy closed in Iran or whatever.That was huge international news, but I didn't necessarily have anything to say about that that day. So after a while I decided, no, I'm not going to do that. I'm just going to limit it to 10 items. And I'm going to focus that on what I think is the most fascinating and think of it less like a curation tool and more like, a, modern day column.I think if the column newspaper column were invented today, it would look a lot like Next Draft people would sort of share their takes and then provide links off for more information. once I did that, it was a big change. People started signing up much more readily and, once I stopped trying to be exhaustive.[00:11:56] Nathan:That makes a lot of sense to me. I think that that's something you see from a lot of creators is that they're, they're trying to find some model. That's like, this is my idea of what people should want, you know, rather than what they end up doing, eventually it's coming to, it's like, okay, forget all of that.This is what I want. And I'm going to make that. And then people like me can find and follow it. And people who don't can, you know, do their thing. Can you go find one of the other million sources on the internet?[00:12:21] Dave:Yeah. When I think of the people that I like to follow or have followed forever on the internet, all of them are that ladder. They just do it their way. They have a design, they want, they stick to their guns. They say what they feel like saying. they decide. what the personality of the product is.And, they move within that. I always find that to be the most interesting thing, especially when it comes to something like newsletters. I really think newsletters are more like a radio talk shows than they are like other internet content, podcasts to a certain degree as well. But I always feel like I listened to are used to listen a lot to this radio, sports caster named Jim Rome.And whenever he would have a new city that he was launching and he would always give the same speech on the Monday that they launched saying, just give me a week. You might not.Get the vibe of what we're doing today. You might think it's okay, but not great, but just give it a week and listen, and then decide if you like it or not.And I sort of feel like that's how newsletters are your relationship with your readers sort of creates this, sort of insider-y voice and communication that, you, it takes a little while to get into the rhythm of getting it. But once you do, then it's like this familiar voice or this familiar friend that you feel like, even if you didn't read it for a few weeks, you can start a conversation with that person right away easily.That's how I think the voice of a newsletter is most effective. So that's why I've always thought of it. More of what I do is sort of a textual talk radio, more so than a blog or some other format[00:14:01] Nathan:What do you think, or what would you say to someone who maybe had 10 or 20,000 subscribers and felt like their newsletter had gone a bit stale and maybe their relationship to it had gotten a bit stale or they're in this, this position of writing things that no longer have their voice, how would you coach them through like bringing their voice and personality back into it?[00:14:22] Dave:I mean, it's definitely hard. it's hard doing something that you do alone and, something that is often hard to really get off the ground or get to grow, especially when you're on a platform like the internet, where every day, somebody does something and 10 seconds later, they're like internet famous and you're trying day after day.So, I mean, the first thing. Is that you really have to be interested in what you you're passionate about. and focus in on that, because that will alleviate a lot of that stress. Like, do I feel like sending it today? I'm a too burnt out. What's the point? I mean, not that those feelings don't happen. I had those feelings as recently as an hour ago, when I press publish, I have those feelings and disappointments constantly, you know, that's part of being a creator of any kind.Maybe that word is sort of, sort of goofy, but anybody who's putting themselves out there and putting content out, you know, you have that feeling all the time. If you're an indie, and you're doing it all day in front of the computer by yourself, then that's even more powerful because, you know, if you work at a big company or everybody's working on the same goal, or even in a small group, you can sort of support each other and, maybe even bullshit each other at some cases where, oh, no, this really matters.You know, where, if you're by yourself, that has to be pretty self-sustaining or self-sustaining. I do have a friend or two that I always share blurbs with who, one of my friends Rob's, he proves almost all of my blurbs, so it's nice to have that virtual office mate. He's not really officially part of Next Draft, but you know, I don't think I would do it as easily or as, for as long if it weren't for him because he's like my virtual friend on the internet that says, oh, come on, let's get it out today or whatever.So I think that's helpful to have a support team or a couple people you can count on to sort of give you a boost when you need it. But the key really is, is that it's gotta be something that you are passionate about, both in terms of the product and in terms of what you're focusing on, because if you feel strongly about it, then it really.I don't want to say it doesn't matter if people enjoy it, you should take cues from your readers. What are they clicking on? What are they reading? What are they responding to? But at the core, it's gotta be you because that's what gets you through those down points? you know, I had a weird thing because I write about news.The general news, world basically benefited dramatically from the Trump era because everybody was habitually turning on their news, 24, 7, and refreshing and Whitey and Washington post and checking Twitter every two seconds to see what crazy thing happened next. And we're all poor sorta,[00:17:01] Nathan:Wreck to watch.[00:17:02] Dave:So everybody was really into it and it created.Unbelievable platform for people to become media stars. You know, Trump was bad for democracy, but he was great for media. Great for creating new voices out there. whether we like it or not. for me, it was different because I wrote about all news. I wouldn't say I was apolitical, but I wasn't heavily political.The Next Draft had plenty of readers from both sides of the aisle. when Trump came around, it was like one story every day, basically. So it really limited. I would get emails from longtime readers all the time that said, Hey, can't you cover something other than Trump every day?And I say, Hey, if you can find the story for me, I'll cover it. This is what every journalist is on. Now, the people who used to cover the secret service around Trump, the people who used to cover sports are not talking about Trump because of a pandemic relation ship to it. The people who aren't entertainment are talking about Trump because they can't believe that anybody voted for him, whatever the issue was, every dinner party was about Trump.So it was really a bummer for my brand and my product. Actually, it became boring in some ways to me to have the same story every day. And it became, I think frustrating to my readers.But during that era, when it was happening, I had to make a decision. Do I become more political and go full on with this?Or do I sort of try to. Do what I would call a falsely unbiased view or a, you know, false equivalence view that we saw in the media where there's both sides to every story. And you have to pretend they're both accurate, including one guy saying to put disinfectant into your veins. And the other person's saying to wear a mask and take a vaccine, but those things get treated as equal somehow because the president said it.And I really decided, you know, more important than keeping readers is that I'm true to my own sort of ethical standards. In a moment that called for it, at least for me. So I became more political. went into it and I said, what I believe and still believe is the truth, you know, about what was happening with Trump and Trumpism and our slide towards authoritarianism.And I know that this is a podcast more about newsletterish than it is about politics or news, but I'm just sharing that because that's the kind of thing that kept me going. and the people who really cared about what I was writing, appreciated it and would email me and say they got something out of that.And most importantly, my mom would say, yeah, you made the right call. Or my dad would say, yeah, you got that. Right. And ultimately, When it became a sort of a bummer period for me, which I would say 2020 was because of all the horrible news. And, I was writing a book about the year. So I was like living, July of 20, 20, well writing about March of 2020, which I don't recommend for anybody's emotional health.And I just had to think like, what's really important to me. Yes. I want to be funny, which I try to be in my newsletter every day. I want to be read my narcissism is as strong as ever, but ultimately I want to be able to look myself in the reflection of the, darken screen on the rare times that it is dark and say like, yeah, you told the truth and that kept me going there.So I think whatever your brand is, you know, it can be a newsletter about guitars, but if you have that sort of passion, And you have something you want to say, and you think is important to say it sort of gets you through those levels and your motivation. And if it's not getting you through the lows and the motivation, there's nothing wrong with saying, Hey man, this is not worth it.I'm going to go try to make something else. You know, it doesn't have to be, you don't have to beat a dead horse.[00:20:51] Nathan:On the political side. Are there specific things that you felt like it costs you opportunities that it lost you? Because I think a lot of creators, whether they talk about, you know, finance or photography or whatever, I'll see these things. And they're like this either directly relates to me and my audience and I feel like I should take a stand on it.Or it's like a broader macro issue that I feel like we should talk about. And when you do, then there's immediately, you know, somewhere between three and 300 responses of like, we didn't follow you for the politics, you know, or like something like that. And your Instagram, DMS, or newsletter replies or whatever.[00:21:24] Dave:Yeah. it costs me a lot. Definitely it costs me readers or subscribers. It costs me, psychic pain because I was locked into a story that was just overwhelmingly, emotionally painful, really, and shocking and difficult to understand all the things that cause you sort of emotional exhaustion. We're in the Trump story, especially in 2020, when it became a story about our own health and our kids' health.And the frustration level just went through the roof. for me, professionalizing that content actually helps create a bit of a barrier to the feelings about it. Some of my good friends were probably more bummed during 2020 than I was because when the latest crazy story or depressing story would happen, I felt I had to. Ingest that content and then come up with, something cogent to say about it. And maybe hopefully funny to make it a little bit of sugar to take the medicine and then get it out to people. So I've always felt that being able to do that, sorta created a barrier between myself and actually feeling something.So that's another thing I like about the newsletter probably at least unconsciously. but yeah, there was a lot of costs in terms of readers, for sure. Hate mail. but there always is, you know, Today. I would say I get much more hate mail from the far left. If that's what you want to call them. People who feel like every joke is like an incredible triggering a front to their existence or any hint that you mentioned somebody as attractive.I've gotten hate mail because I implied that Beyonce is appearance was part of her brand. I mean, it's totally crazy, but, It's those extremes. You have to be able to turn off. You know, a friend of mine used to work at a major, be the editor of a major American newspaper. And he said every Friday they would get together and they would play the craziest, calls to the editor.They had a call line. In addition to, you could send a letter or you could call, leave a voicemail about something you were upset about in the coverage. And they would just gather around and have drinks on Friday. Listen to this because of course the people who are calling this line are almost self-selecting themselves as a little bit wacko and their takes were usually pretty extreme.The internet, Twitter, social media, Provides, greases the wheels for those people to be more prevalent in our lives. But I think it's really important to know that that's a real minority of people, somebody who sent you a hate mail, that your joke was so offensive, or they can't believe you mentioned that people ever watch pornography on the internet or any of these other things, it's this tiny minority of people.And then it's one step crazier that they felt like they had to contact you. So that's a really hard thing. I think about being split, particularly the newsletter game, because anybody can hit reply and you're going to get many more replies from people with crazy complaints, than you are from people with really thoughtful responses.Not that those don't come and those are valuable and I love getting those, but you get many more from people that just have really bizarre. I mean I could list probably for hours to crazy things that people send me that they're mad about, you know,[00:24:50] Nathan:Is there something specific that you do? Like one thing when I get those replies, if they're just like completely off the wall or abusive or something like that, I just scroll down and then click their unsubscribe link because, you know, they're never going to know, and then I just have to show up in their inbox[00:25:07] Dave:Right.[00:25:08] Nathan:There's something that you do.[00:25:09] Dave:That's not a bad strategy. I like that. I do do that occasionally for sure. occasionally I'll just go to Gmail and just, create a filter for that email to automatically go to my trash. if it's like a hardcore right-winger, that's telling me how stupid I am about ivermectin and that, you know, people should be taking horse dewormer and I'm just not getting the truth.And that Trump is awesome and that, Whatever. I usually just delete, honestly, because I don't see a big benefit to replying to somebody, especially if it's like a rabbit email, you know, they're looking for a reply, they want the conflict. A lot of people sleep easy with conflict. That's one of the lessons of the internet that I learned when I was first starting on the internet, you know, David edix sort sorta became popular because somebody that had a blog with a similar name, that I hadn't heard of, complained that I sort of stole his name because his name was also Dave.And I had got like, probably about three or 400 emails saying, you know, with expletive saying what a horrible person I was. And I also got about 3000 subscribers and at the time I had about 30, so. I didn't know how to respond. I felt like, wow. Number one, I didn't know that guys had the product with the same name.Number two. My name was different enough. Number two or three were both named Dave. I mean, who cares? You know, and plus I don't want to be attacked by anybody. So your first reaction is to respond and a slightly older, although not noticeably these days with my gray beard, slightly older friend of mine who had been in tech a little longer, said, don't respond.This guy lives for conflict. You guys are going to fight. There's going to be this public thing. You're going to be up all night and he's going to never sleep so easy. So, I took that to heart and didn't respond. And I, I think about that a lot when I get rabid emails from people, Mike exception, actually probably my weak point really is from, more my side of the political spectrum, where people who are generally liberal, but are just so extreme for me.In terms of being triggered or having a joke, be every joke, be inappropriate. That those people, I actually do feel like I want to respond to because, I, I don't think I can really motivate or move, somebody who was on the opposite end of the spectrum and is sending me hate aggressive, hate mail, but maybe I can move somebody who's just a little bit different than me, or a little bit more extreme.I will respond to those, although I'm usually sorry. The one other thing I always respond to is if people have been reading, they say, oh, I've been reading you for years. And, I wanted to ask you a couple of questions about this book that you wrote before ordering it. And I'm like, just order the damn book. that's probably my most common email to people these days. It's actually remarkable how many people says, wow, I I've been reading you for years. I share you with all my friends. something, when my sons come home from college where it's always talking about, Dave said this, Dave said that, before I buy your book, I just wanted to ask you a couple of questions to make sure it's going to be for me.I'm like I worked on something for an hour and it's like, your family is talking about it. What, just by the thing I worked on for a year, you know? So those kind of things, personal frustration, I respond.[00:28:37] Nathan:Yeah, that makes sense. okay. I'd love to talk about the book some more, but before we get into that, there's two things I want to talk about. The first one is like, how do you measure success for the newsletter? What's the thing that you'd like to, cause I don't think it's, you're pursuing the monetary side for this.It sounds like the monetary side comes from investing and, and then what's success for the newsletter.[00:28:59] Dave:I mean, I have had right now, I I'm just marketing my, my own stuff. And during the pandemic I marketed non-profits, but, that had to do with either the pandemic or, the democracy issues that we were facing. but I have made decent money from selling straight sponsorships. Year-long sponsorships to people, which I highly recommend.I think some of the ads that people put into his letters that go by clicks or whatever, unless you have a massive audience, it's hard to make much money, but if you pitch to some company that is a like-minded brand, Hey, you're going to be my only brand for a year. And anytime you have special events, I'm going to mention it.Then you can say, okay, you have like, you know, 20,000 readers or a hundred thousand readers that can make a difference to a brand to say, yeah, it's like a rounding air show. We'll give you 20 grand or a hundred grand or wherever it comes in there that you can actually make a decent. Living in terms of writing.So that always worked better for me, but no, my, my internet life is really all about narcissism and, clicks, you know, the dopamine, I just want reads. I'd rather you subscribe to my newsletter than pitch me your startup company. I just, that's what I want the most. So more numbers, more opens, more reads, more subscribers.And unfortunately that's probably the hardest thing to get also, especially in a product that is sort of viral. I think newsletters are sort of viral, but it's better if you have a team and some tools to really get it going. That's, you know, sites like the Skimm morning brew and the hustle. They have teams that are really growth hacking and focusing on that and having rewards programs and ambassador programs.The reason you see that is because.Newsletters themselves are not really inherently that viral. Yes. Somebody can forward it to one person or whatever, but it's not as viral as a lot of other forms of content where you can click a button and share it with all of your followers, like a Facebook post or a tweet.So yeah, the thing that matters to me most is probably the hardest to get in the newsletter game, but that's the truth[00:31:10] Nathan:Yeah. Well, I think the, the point on like newsletters don't have a distribution engine. There's no Facebook newsfeed, YouTube algorithm equivalent for newsletters. And so it really relies on either you posting your content somewhere else, whether it's Twitter or YouTube or medium or something that has an algorithm or your readers saying like, oh, I read Next Draft.You should too. There's not really something else in there. Have you looked at, or I guess if you have thoughts on that, you comments on it, but then also have you looked at launching an ambassador program or, or an actual referral program?[00:31:44] Dave:Yeah, I've thought about him. And now over the last year, there's been a few tools that have come out a few. I think X people from sites like morning view Ru, and some other sites that have sort of perfected some of these marketing programs have, sort of come out with these tools. I've messed around with them a little bit.Some of them still require I find, some technical ones. so I, I have like an engineer who works with me on Next Draft, like as a freelance basis every now and then, but it's not always easy for me to launch stuff that requires a lot of a moment to moment technical support, and management, because it's just me using a lot of, they're customized, but they're over the counter tools.So I've thought about a lot of them, but I really haven't tried it that much.I want to though I do want to do that. I would like to do one of those programs, especially where you get credit for referrals. I think that's the best kind of model. So there's one called spark loop.[00:32:51] Nathan:Yeah, we actually, I invested in spark loops, so we[00:32:54] Dave:Okay.[00:32:55] Nathan:Decent portion of that business, so good.[00:32:58] Dave:Oh, nice. Yeah. That one, if it was just slightly easier, I know that it's probably difficult to make it easier because, there's so many pieces. They have to have your subscribers. I have to have my subscribers, but that is, does seem like a good product. And especially if they can, I think expand into like letting a person sell a product or whatever, get credited for sharing products that can be even bigger.But yeah, that kind of stuff is really powerful for sure. And I, I do want to get into that. it's more just inertia that I it's just a matter of sitting there for the, an amount of hours that it requires to get it going.But I do think that's a great thing for newsletter writers to do, and I'm pretty surprised that more newsletter platforms don't build it right in.I think that'll probably change over time too. Maybe you guys will get acquired by.[00:33:48] Nathan:Yep. No, that makes sense. I know for convert kit, we wanted to build it in, it looks at the amount of time that it would take and then said like let's invest in a , you know, and then roll it into our offering.[00:33:59] Dave:Yeah, it's hard. It's hard not to take that stuff personally, too, you know, for people that do newsletters, you think you're going to put a thing on there and say, Hey, you know, it's just me here and you always read my newsletter and click. I know you love me so much. Can you just do this to get a free whatever?And it's, you know, sometimes not that many people click, you know, or other times like they click just as long as there's the free item. So there's a lot of ways to get depressed. Like I had things where I say, Hey, the first a hundred people who do this, get a free t-shirt or whatever next strap t-shirt.And those hundred people will literally do what I asked them to do in like 34 seconds, you know? And then it like stops after that. The next time you ask them, if there's not a t-shirt. But it's not you, you know, if you go to a baseball game or a lawyer game or whatever, you know, people sit there, they don't even cheer as much for the team as they cheer when the guy comes out with the t-shirt gun.So it's like, people love t-shirts more than they're ever going to love you. And you have to go into these things with that in mind. there's no way, even if it's, even if you're XX large and the t-shirt is, you know, petite, it's still worth more than you are. And the average mind of the average person.So you have to go into all of these things thinking, I hope this works like crazy, but if it doesn't tomorrow, I open up the browser and start writing.[00:35:19] Nathan:Yeah. That's very true. I want to talk about the growth of the newsletter. I was reading something, which I realized later was back in 2014, that you were at around 160,000 subscribers. I imagine it's quite a bit larger than that now. And then I'd love to hear some of the inflection points of growth.[00:35:35] Dave:Yeah, I'm not, I'm not sure. I might've, I don't know if I lied in 2014, but now I have about,[00:35:41] Nathan:Quoted it wrong.[00:35:42] Dave:No, you might've got it right. I might've exaggerated. Maybe that was a including app downloads and a few other things. Yeah. I have about 140,000 or so now, so that would be making that a pretty horrible seven years now.You're depressing me.Your listeners should just stop, stop writing newsletters. It's not worth the depression[00:36:02] Nathan:Just give up now[00:36:03] Dave:Yeah. And by all means if Nathan goals do not pick up. no, yeah, I probably have it 140,000 on newsletter. Made my newsletter. It's hard to believe in this era of newsletters actually, but when I first launched Next Draft, I noticed that even people who would send in testimonials or that I would ask for testimonials would say, basically something to the extent that even though email is horrible, this is the one newsletter I I'd sign up for whatever.And I kept thinking, man, that's a bummer that I'm starting out at this deficit, that people have a negative feeling about the medium. So I, since then I've always made it my goal to. Have the content available wherever people are. So the newsletter is certainly the main way that people get next job, but there's an app for the iPhone and the iPad there.That's the first thing I launched because I wanted to have an alternative for people who just hate email too much. So now you go to the landing page, it's like, Hey, if you don't like email, here's another version. I have a blog version. I have an apple news version. I have an RSS version. I'm lucky enough to have a really good, WordPress custom WordPress install that I just push one button and it pushes it out to all of those things.But I am, I'm a big proponent of just meeting people where they are. even, as an example, I recently launched a sort of a substance. Version of my newsletter under the radar. but when I redo my site, I'm going to make that more clear because if people already subscribed to like 10 sub stacks and they're using their aggregator and they already have their email saved and they can just click a button, it's like, I don't care.You know, it takes me five extra minutes to paste my content into sub stack. So I just want the reads. I don't really care about how they read it or whether they read it.[00:37:55] Nathan:Yeah. That's fascinating. So then let's shift gears a little bit. I want to hear about the book. first I wanna hear about the title. Would you have it on your shirt?[00:38:03] Dave:Yeah. That's pretty embarrassing. I swear. I didn't know it was video today, but I do have a shirt[00:38:06] Nathan:You're good.[00:38:07] Dave:Otherwise I wouldn't have worn. This would have worn my Nathan Barry's shirt.[00:38:12] Nathan:That's right. It's in the mail actually. It's[00:38:15] Dave:Oh, good, good.[00:38:16] Nathan:Big photo of my face.[00:38:17] Dave:Yeah. Convert kit. My wife converted to Judaism before we got married. So I have my own convert kit.[00:38:23] Nathan:There you go. Exactly. so I want to hear like what the book is about and then particularly where the title came from,[00:38:30] Dave:Sure.[00:38:31] Nathan:It made me laugh a lot when I heard it.[00:38:33] Dave:Oh, cool. That's good. That's a good start then. yeah, the title comes from, in July of the, of 2020 when the pandemic was really setting in and becoming a reality for everybody. this amusement park outside of Tokyo in the shadow of Mount Fuji called the Fuji queue. amusement park reopened.And they found that even though everybody w everybody was wearing masks, people were screaming so much on some of the rides, especially the Fujiyama roller coaster, which was their scariest ride, that they were worried about germs spread. So they sort of put signs around the amusement park saying, no screaming, you can come, you can ride and have fun, but keep your mask on adults scream.And it sort of became a little minor social media thing in Japan, where people were sort of making fun of them like, oh, they're telling us not to scream. How can anybody not scream on the Fujiyama roller coaster? So in response, the, park management had to have their executives with perfectly quaffed hair and tie and colored shirts and masks on ride the roller coaster with a webcam facing them the whole time without moving a muscle.Cracking a smile or grimacing or screaming. And then at the end of the ride, when the rollercoaster stops, it says, please Scream Inside Your Heart.And that was always my favorite meme of, 2020. It went really viral. There was like t-shirts. aside from mine, there were posters memes. It sort of went crazy for about a week or two, which by 2020 standards is a pretty long time for a meme to last.And I just thought that made sense as a title for the book, because that's sort of how we felt, all year that I dunno if we were screaming in our heart, but we were certainly screaming into a void. Like no matter what we sat or yelled on social media or complained to our family members or friends, it just kept getting worse.The year just kept getting worse. And, so the idea is that this book sort of, now you're free to sort of let out the scream. And the book is it's about 2020, certainly, but it's really about the issues that led us to 2020. There's a ton about our relationship to media and including my own relationship to media and how that got us into trouble.Some of the stuff we're talking about today, how, technology has impacted our lives stuff. I've been sort of thinking about it, writing about for the last few decades, and a lot of the political hate that emerged. and, but it's all within this time capsule of the craziest year.[00:41:12] Nathan:Yeah. Yeah. And so that's coming out early in November, November 2nd. so you're, it looks like you're just starting the, you know, mentioning the promotion tour and all of that. is there a big, big push that comes with it or are you kind of, I, I'm always curious with people's book launches, what strategy they take.[00:41:30] Dave:Yeah. I mean, I'm a newbie, so it's, the whole process has been interesting to me working with a publisher, working with others, is not my forte. so I got used to that or I'm getting used to that and they're probably getting used to it also because working with grouchy 50 something in these is probably not ideal, but, yeah, I've just been promoting it so far in Next Draft, but I've been doing, I have a PR company that's helping me and I've been doing a ton of podcasts and I'm marketing it to my own readers.And then as it gets a little bit closer to the November 2nd date, I have a lot more stuff planned rut, a lot of influencers have early copies of the book, and hopefully they'll promote it. And, I'll call out a few favors from bloggers and hopefully newsletter writers. I feel like that should be my in theory.That should be my secret weapon because, in addition to being fun and creative, nothing moves traffic, except maybe Facebook, nothing moves traffic more than newsletters. I know a lot of people who run e-commerce companies and newsletters are always second, if not first, in terms of traffic drivers.So, I really think that, if some of my friends out there at morning brew in the hustle and the scam and all these other sites that sort of, have surpassed my size by quite a bit, put the word out that, one of their fellow warriors is, has a book out. That'll probably move the needle even more. The media, I'm hoping to get stuff like that, but I really don't know. I'm trying not to get my hopes up too much because, unlike a newsletter, it's not just one day's work, you know, you like worry about one word or one sentence in a book for like three weeks and then you put it out there and people are like, oh yeah, I'll check it out sometime.Thanks. So, you know, that's, you know, whatever that's life as a, you put yourself out there, that's how it goes. So I'm hoping it sells well. And, the more people that get it, I think some people, their first reaction is, oh my God, 2020. I don't want to relive that again. But, hopefully people who know my brand and those that they share it with, know that it's, you know, there's a lot of humor and there's, it's probably 30 pages before we even get into the first event of 2020.So it's, there's a lot more to it and it's sort of fun and crazy and tries to have the pace of a roller coaster. that was the other thing I took from the Fujiyama roller coaster.[00:43:59] Nathan:Yeah. So one thing that I'm always curious about with people who have like a prolific newsletter, you know, in your case of writing every day, and then like, for a lot of people, that would be a lot to handle of staying on top of a daily newsletter. And then you're writing a book on top of that. How did you schedule your time?Were you blocking off like, oh, these afternoons are specifically for book, book writing. Cause you turned it around relatively fast.[00:44:24] Dave:Yeah. the newsletter is sort of like a full-time job. People always ask me, you know, when do you work on, or how many hours do you spend on it? I mean, I'm, I'm always looking for news, whether it's on Twitter or friends, emailing me stuff or texting me stories, or just in conversations with people to see what they're into or what stories are interesting them or what I'm missing.In terms of actual time spent like where I'm dedicating time. I probably do like about an hour every night, because the story has changed so quick. So I'll do an hour of looking for stories every night. And then the next day I sort of lock in from about nine to one, usually, or nine to 12, where I'm finding stories, saving those stories, choosing what stories I want to go with and then actually writing the newsletter.All of that takes about anywhere from like two and a half to four hours, depending on the day I go pretty fast. When it came to the book, that was tricky. It was actually more emotionally tricky because like I said before, I was like, had to go back and write about, you know, Briana Taylor while I'm living another horrible act, you know, or even more so the Trump, you know, one crazy Trump thing and another crazy Trump thing and seeing the pandemic getting worse and worse.So that was stressful. But I found at the beginning I would try to write a lot at night and that was okay. But I found actually if I just kept going, in the day when I was already rolling and had written the newsletter and I was already in the group just to add on an hour or two to that was actually easier and more effective for me than trying to get going.But that's just me. I mean, I just go by my it's almost like my circadian rhythm or something like that, I almost never eat or consume anything before I'm done with next job except for coffee. I would keep that going, you know, once I would like, sort of have a sandwich or whatever, then it's like, oh, let me just take a quick nap and then whatever.So, yeah, I tried to just keep it going. I always find the more consistently busy I am, the less I procrastinate. And if I take a day off or I take a few hours off, even then, between writing, it just, it takes me longer to get going.[00:46:37] Nathan:Yep. That makes sense. The habit that I'm in right now is starting the day with 45 minutes to an hour of writing and that's working much better for me than like slotting it in somewhere else. So I think like w what I hear you saying is like, experiment and find the thing that works well for you.[00:46:54] Dave:Yeah. I mean, if you're going to start experimenting almost every writer, I know not like newsletter writers, but just general writers, all do what you just described. They sort of pick a time in the morning and they get their output done. then the rest of the day, if ideas come to them or whatever, they jot it down, but they're sort of powering in that morning hours.[00:47:13] Nathan:Yeah.[00:47:14] Dave:That's probably a good one to try. Although, you know, some people just do it better at different hours. I'm sure.[00:47:19] Nathan:Yeah. another thing I realized, I've always you for years, and until we got on this video call, I had no idea what you looked like. and which is kind of an interesting,[00:47:28] Dave:Well, I'm sorry.It's by design. I have a face for Panda.[00:47:32] Nathan:Tell me more about, well, I guess two sides, one, has there ever been an interesting interaction? You know, because you're like, Hey, I'm, I'm Dave and people are like, I wouldn't have ever recognized you. Or has there been any other benefits and thought behind, you know, why it have an avatar?[00:47:49] Dave:If by interesting you mean horrible? Yes. There's been many interesting interactions with people. I mean, before, before I had my current, avatar, which is, pretty awesome, actually, a guy named Brian Molko designed it. I had this incredible drawing of a character that looked like me that, had sort of ether net, Machinery and cord going into his head and it was like me, but my head was actually lifted.The top of my head was lifted off and you could see all this machinery and it was an incredible graphic, by this guy named Sam Spratt. Who's now done, album covers and book covers. He's like a super talent. If you want to follow somebody fun on Instagram, he's just incredible. And it was a drawing, even though it looked photo realistic.And I used that for a while and then I would go places and people would be like, you are so much fatter and grayer than I imagined. And so instead of having Sam sort of ruin his artwork, I went back with the more, cartoonish or animated, avatar. So since then I don't get too much of that, but, that was a good move.Although that's the best thing about avatars and the internet is that your avatar never ages. It always looks the same. It stays the same weight. My avatar never overeats he exercises right here. Angie really gets along well with others and doesn't have any kind of social anxiety either. So he's pretty cool.Yeah, it goes a little downhill with me in person. So[00:49:21] Nathan:Yeah. So is it, that's something that like, it gives you some distance between you and readers, or it gives you some anonymity that, you know, you don't want to be recognized in the streets?[00:49:32] Dave:No, no, it's, it's, basically just what I described. It's like, I literally prefer the, the attractiveness of my avatar versus me, but also actually my avatar is really awesome. my logo, so it's also iconic and scalable. so it looks awesome on t-shirts even people who don't know what Next Draft is when they see, by son wearing his t-shirt, whatever, it just looks awesome.So that that's that's as much of it as anything. I thought your response was going to be mad. You seem perfectly attractive to me. I don't know what the issue is, but no, you went with, am I doing that for some other reason? Yeah. So, I get this all the time.Cause my wife is a very attractive person also. So when people meet me, they're always like, whoa, we were once a very famous celebrity came up to me and I said, oh, I'm Gina's husband. And she was like, wow, you did well. Oh, you know? So I'm like, thanks a lot. That helps. So just gave her a picture of my, my icon and walked away.[00:50:31] Nathan:Then that worked. I'm sure that she has it framed in her office, from now on. it's just interesting to me. You're you're sort of at this intersection between personal brand and, like media brand. And I think the avatar helps push you over into the media brand side. and I don't have any real commentary on it other than I find it interesting.[00:50:53] Dave:Yeah, no, I think there probably is some of that. I I've never really been a fan of using my actual face, or my actual person as a logo. I love the process of designing or working with people to design logos and taglines and all that. But yeah, probably at some point there was a, a goal with Next Draft to make it seem bigger than it is.I know a lot of people that are solo operators. They regularly say we, when they're talking about their brand to make it seem bigger, I actually think that's sort of been flipped on its head though. in the last few years where so many people are coming into the space, it's very clear that what they're doing is leaving a big brand, leaving a we and going to an eye.And I think it's actually a selling point in a lot of ways. So, I mean, I, I still get a lot of emails that say, I don't know if anybody at Next Draft is going to read this email, you know, or if you do, can you get this message to Dave? He's an asshole or whatever. And it's like, I'm the only one here, you know, or the other one I always get is when I email back to people that go, oh, I can't believe you actually emailed back.I didn't think this would get to anybody. It's like, you hit reply. And it had my email, like where else would it go? Exactly. You know? But I think actually having people thinking of you as a person, instead of a brand, Is a benefit today. Whereas if you would ask me when I was younger, I probably would have said, make it seem like you have a big company behind you.[00:52:24] Nathan:Yeah. And I think that that indie shift overall, like people are looking for that.[00:52:29] Dave:Yeah,[00:52:29] Nathan:Want to ask about the intersection between your investing and the newsletter. like, are you still actively investing today and doing author.[00:52:38] Dave:Yeah, yeah, no, I, I still invest a ton. I usually follow along with people who are a little more in tune with today's companies than I am. I don't really go out there and brand myself as an investor much, but I've been really lucky. I have very little intersection actually, if any, with my newsletter and my investing and I definitely want people to. To think of me as a writer first, for sure. Not as an investor who has this hobby, because that's definitely not in terms of time or passion, the reality. but I've been really lucky over the years that, I've invested with people or co-invested with them that were cool with me. branding myself as a writer first, but still looking at deals that came through their brands because they were branded as BCS or investors or angels.That's probably a bigger deal now than when I first started. There were like five angel investors, basically. Nobody really did small, early stage seed deals. you know, I mean, we all knew each other that did it and now there's like thousands of them. So you really have to be either a really pretty well-known entrepreneur or you have to. Sort of attach yourself to our organization or two who are really branding themselves well, getting out there and building a stable of companies,[00:53:58] Nathan:Yeah.[00:53:59] Dave:It's pretty different, more, much more has changed about that than the newsletter game, actually, which is pretty much the same as it was the day I started actually.[00:54:07] Nathan:Are there a few of those I'm curious who are a few of those, people that you would tag along with, you know, when they're investing where like, oh, this person puts money into something I'd like to be right there with them.[00:54:19] Dave:I mean, I have some people that are like entrepreneurs and former entrepreneurs that do it, and if they like it I'll do it. but generally I co-invest with, at any given time, a different group of people, used to be a larger group. When I first started out, my whole investing career, I've co-invested with this guy named Bob zip who's much smarter and much wiser than I am about all things business and.Startup world. So that was really great. And he used to work at a company called venture law group in the first boom, and they represented Google, Hotmail. eGroups all the big, huge, early internet companies, and so he really knew the space well. And when he became, I used to get deals from him.That's how you used to get deals actually was by a couple of law firms that focused on startups. I've been co-investing with him all along and he's been generous enough to, he left the law firm a long, long time ago and became an investor primarily. And he had a fund and was well-known guy and well-respected guy.So I got to sit in when he would hear pitches. and we sort of, we weren't investing together out of the same fund, but we would sort of make our decisions together. And we still do that a lot. these days, I almost always follow along with a guy named run-on barn Cohen and a really good friend of mine.He was for many years at WordPress, basically, most of the things that make money at WordPress, he did. and now he's a investor at a VC called resolute. If anybody's looking for a good VC, he's like incredible, like Bob zip much, much smarter than I am about this stuff. Unbelievably ethical, great business sense.Great technical sense. so I mostly just follow him. So if he does something that's usually good enough for me. And if I see something that I think it's good, I'll pass it along to him, but it's mostly that, but I've been really fortunate. I can't express that enough, that I've been able to invest in companies without having to spend all of my time, branding myself as an investor.That's just been unbelievably lucky. So, I've been able to focus a ton of my energy on my six.[00:56:31] Nathan:That's right. I'm writing a newsletter about the news. I guess, as you're looking to grow and continue on, right? Like the next phase of readers and, and all of that, since we can just say directly that we're all narcissists and we do this for the attention. what's what's sort of that next thing that you're looking for, it's going from 140,000 subscribers to say 200,000 and beyond.[00:56:54] Dave:Yeah, well, I'm, I'm hoping that, I'm not just trying to sell my book here. I'm hoping that the book and the newsletter will sort of have, a coexistence with them because the new the book is really an extension of the brand and the brand is that icon to Next Draft. So I'm hoping that the tricky part about writing about marketing a newsletter, like we discussed earlier, there's not really a natural virality to them.So. You Have this piecemeal growth from people telling each other or their friends or forwarding it to somebody or maybe occasionally tweeting or sharing a Facebook link. Oh, you should check this out. But it's all sort of small little blips. If you get a news story or a big blog story about it, or another newsletter recommending you, that's probably the fastest way people grow these days is by, co-sponsoring each other's newsletters or co-promoting them.Those big hits are more rare and they usually require like, I've had a ton of stories written about Next Draft, but most of them a long time ago, because it's basically a similar product to what it was when they wrote about it the first time. So they're like, Hey, I'd love to write about it, but what's the hook.What's the new thing, you know? so I'm hoping that the book provides that emphasis. It's like, we're doing now a ton of people who may by either been on a podcast in the past, or they've wanted to do a podcast with me say, okay, now's a great time. I'd probably want to move your book and, we can set something up.So it's sort of as an impetus. So I'm hoping that that will be the next big newsletter thing that most, most people who write about the book will also write about the newsletter and the two things can sort of grow together.[00:58:35] Nathan:I think that's spot on.[00:58:36] Dave:That's in terms of, you know, marketing and promotion, otherwise, I do want to try, one of these referral programs because people definitely do like products.And, I am lucky that my icon looks really good on shirts so that people actually really want them. And I have a great designer named Brian Bell who makes all of my shirts.[00:58:58] Nathan:There's something like when creators thinking about products, often if you spread yourself too thin, you're like into the newsletter, the book, the podcast, and like the 14 other things that you could make all at once you sort of hinder the growth of each thing, but then if you really build one of them up to a significant level, then at that point it can start to stall out and by shifting to another medium or have it like launching another product in this case, the newsletter to a book, then that book can have a bunch more momentum that feeds back into it.And so there's just sort of this interesting balance of like, no, When to like, keep pushing on the thing that you have versus when to add the next thing that like, then they feed off of each other and go from there. So I think you're doing it with good timing.[00:59:45] Dave:Hopefully it'll work. All that kind of stuff is the tricky part of doing this stuff. Especially stuff like podcasts and newsletters that are—it's really a ton of word of mouth, unless you get lucky and get some press, and word of mouth is just slow.There's some point where you're going to hit a tipping point where you're going to go from five or 10,000 to like 50,000 much quicker, more quickly because instead of three people going home and saying, “Hey, did you ever hear of this newsletter?” there's like 30 people going home and saying that. But, even with that they hit a plateau, and then you figure out what's the next thing. That's why doing something you're into is so important.And I don't think it's bad to try those other mediums or stretch yourself out, because you never know you might've been writing a newsletter three years, and then you do a podcast and it catches on. For some reason, you're like awesome. Less typing, more talking, let's go. So, but it's tricky. I wish I was better and had better advice for people on promotion and marketing.I'm not awesome at it, and it's not in my nature. So, begging for favors or telling people, even in my own newsletter, to buy my own book is very painful for me. I'm very sensitive to criticism about it. So, if people just all bought it and then made everybody else buy it, that would be a huge relief for me.[01:01:13] Nathan:That would be great. Well, along those lines, where should people go to subscribe to the newsletter, and then follow you on your preferred channel, and then ultimately buy the book?[01:01:24] Dave:I don't want like two or 300,000 people taking my site down. So let's go with if your last name starts between A and M you can start by going to NextDraft.com and sign up for the newsletter there. Or, you can also just go to the App Store and search for Next Draft. If you're N through Z, you can start with the book, and that's at: PleaseScream.com.It has links to all the various audio, and Kindle, and hardcover versions.[01:01:50] Nathan:That's good. I liked how you split the traffic, that way there's no hug of death, and we'll do well there.[01:01:57] Dave:I don't want to get fireballed.[01:01:58] Nathan:That's right.Dave. Thanks for coming on. This was really fun.[01:02:01] Dave:Yeah, thanks a lot for having me.

Foodie and the Beast
Foodie and the Beast - Oct. 3, 2021

Foodie and the Beast

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 2, 2021 54:39


Hosted by David and Nycci Nellis. On today's show: · John Aggrey, founder of Din-Din, a brilliant response to COVID and a new way to build community while enjoying the talents of chefs, food truck operators, and home cooks. Customers can order from local chefs and have their food delivered to their doorsteps; · The global pandemic has revealed how much we need a more resilient food system that sustains the Earth and provides sufficient, nutritious food for all who need it. DMV Food Recovery Week is Oct. 4-9 and Manna's Jenna Umbriac is here to tell us about it; · Luis Sayrols of Santte Foods is the inventor of keto-friendly meringue cookies with CBD! Delish and so much fun to eat…and eat… and eat; · This fall, the National LGBT Chamber of Commerce – in partnership with Grubhub and over 30 of NGLCC's local affiliate chambers – will come to the rescue of many of America's struggling LGBTQIA-owned restaurants and bars serving food through a first-ever grant program to provide a lifeline Sabrina Kent, senior vice president at the NGLCC shares the important details.

Rideshare Rodeo Podcast
#80 [Bonus Episode]: The Future Of Gig Work (EntreCourier.com)

Rideshare Rodeo Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 24, 2021 91:04


Uber Lyft Drivers and Gig Economy Workers Weekly News & Interviews [Weekend Bonus Episode]: This weeks bonus podcast is a little different than usual.  I interviewed Felix a.k.a.  Mr.Flex YouTube Creator.   I am figuring out when this interview will drop, either this weekend or next weekend.   The reason for the change is..... About a month ago, Ron (EntreCourier.com) had me on his podcast to discuss 'ProAct', and a little 'AB5', 'Prop22'.   After we recorded, Ron said, you should post this on Rideshare Rodeo podcast too.   We let about a month go by between the two podcast drops.   In this Ron is interviewing me.  The timing of this content is perfect, since in just a couple weeks I will be having Veena Dubal on the podcast. Thank you to our sponsor Curri! Sign up to drive Curri HERE IS THE BREAKDOWN OF OUR INTERVIEW: The government has been busy lately trying to get things pushed through. We've seen in the past few days the Infrastructure bill and Budget Reconciliation stuff go through the Senate. One of the things that's been a priority for Democrats has been the PRO Act. Protecting the Right to Organize. One of the things the act does is implement the ABC test that was the heart of California's AB5, and the ABC test would then determine classification of employee verses independent contractor for purposes of labor laws.  If it's passed and stands up to court challenges, PRO Act could force Doordash, Uber, Grubhub, Lyft and other gig companies to hire employees rather than employees. Steve Johnson of UberLyftDrivers.com joins us to talk about employment, being an independent contractor, the repercussions of being an employee, and whether Pro Act has a chance of passing. Steve has had several guests on his Rideshare Rodeo podcast and shares insights he's gained from his many conversations on the topic.   Additional reading on PRO Act AB5 and Prop 22: A listing of articles about California's AB5 which implemented the ABC Test, and about Prop 22, the ballot initiative that exempted gig platforms from AB5. What is PRO Act?Driver App London is a blog by Mourad, a frequent guest on Steve's podcast. Later in the episode Steve talks about how some places in Europe are a step ahead of where they are in the US including an app worker designation. The following was the general outline we attempted to follow. Things may have gone a little out of order here and there. Introductions: Steve talks about his gig economy background, how his website and podcast got started, and then talks about the different guests he's had on his podcast to talk about PRO Act (guests both in favor of and against the legislation). Employment verses Independent Contractors Why is this even important? What is there to lose if we are employees? What is PRO Act and how does that impact things? What is the ABC test from California's AB5 and that is now part of PRO Act? How does that compare to the current IRS test Doordash, Uber, Lyft, Grubhub and others as bad actors Part of the problem does lie in the way gig companies treat their contractors. Is there exploitation of the independent contractor model by these companies? How do their actions contribute to how some want to force a change? Can PRO Act be passed into law? PRO Act is stalled right now. Does that mean that it's safe? What kind of things can lead to it passing? Is there a better alternative? Is forcing gig companies to hire employees the only answer? Is there a better way to handle the bad acting of gig companies?  Ready... Set... Rodeo!!!!! Via~~~~> https://entrecourier.com/ ****** Thank you to our sponsor Curri! Sign up to drive Curri Curri links: Curri website: https://www.curri.com/ Curri Twitter: https://twitter.com/curri Curri Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/login/?next=... Curri Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/teamcurri/ Curri LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/1875...  

Bill Handel on Demand
The Bill Handel Show - 9a - New York Assisting Delivery Workers & 'Foodie Friday' with Neil Saavedra

Bill Handel on Demand

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 24, 2021 29:29


Bill Handel on New York passing sweeping bills to improve the conditions of delivery workers, and pets can help fight climate change with an insect-based diet - owners just need to come around to the idea. The Fork Reporter Neil Saavedra joins Handel for this week's edition of 'Foodie Friday,' where the two talk about the history behind the Pringles man, and another TikTok hack teaches how to bake rice in the oven.

TechCheck
Bank of America's 14 Moonshot Ideas, NYT Reporter on Delivery Apps Serving “Food and Misery” & Remitly CEO on Public Debut

TechCheck

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 23, 2021 42:47


Our anchors kick off the show with four trendy names this morning: Apple, Facebook, Microsoft and Roku. Then, Bank of America's Head of Global Thematic Investing Research Haim Israel joins on 14 moonshot ideas to watch to catch the next Apple or Amazon on its way up. We also have New York Times Tech Reporter Shira Ovide on her latest article where she says apps like Uber, DoorDash and Grubhub “deliver food and misery.” Plus, CNBC's Yasmin Khorram joins with the details on Elizabeth Holmes' text messages obtained by CNBC where Holmes calls herself the “best business person of the year.” We also check in on yesterday's IPOs Toast and Freshworks to see how they closed their first day of trading. And later, Remitly CEO Matt Oppenheimer joins live from the Nasdaq on the fintech company's public debut.

Selfie
Broken in the Best Way with Jenny Lawson | Selfie Podcast Episode 185

Selfie

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 22, 2021 58:05


We are talking with Jenny Lawson (The Bloggess) about her book Broken (In the Best Possible Way) about mental health, using humor to cope, our brains lying to us, and our shared introversion mishaps. Jenny's memoir is simultaneously hilarious and thought-provoking, and you can find it here. Give InKind is a platform specifically created for offering care. It is highly customizable and offers a number of ways for family, friends, and even strangers to help out. It offers a variety of ways to crowdfund, as well as the ability to set up care like meals and housekeeping. It allows people to sign up to bring a homemade meal, or to choose an option to send a meal through GrubHub, or simply a gift card to any number of meal delivery services. They also offer the ability to send a number of gifts that are appropriate for times of crisis and loss. Whether you are having a baby, preparing for surgery or a hospital stay, battling cancer, or simply want to support your friends as they go through a challenging time – Give InKind is a great place to coordinate any and all of life's disruptions (the good and bad) and get people the support they need. You can check them out at GiveInKind.com.   ReadySlim's Snoozzzy Night Detox Tea is full of soothing, caffeine-free ingredients designed to destress and calm your mind, like lavender, chamomile and valerian root to promote better sleep, as well as peppermint, Lemon Verbena and nettle leaf to aid with digestion and help reduce bloating. Their morning tea, called Wakey Wakey, is a detox blend to help to remove toxin buildup and reduce inflammation. Green rooibos, ginger, lemon verbena, and nettle leaf all work to reduce bloating and help with digestion, while Organic Yerba mate gives a natural energy boost. ReadySlim's detox teas are made with high-quality, 100% organic herbs. ReadySlim's detox teas are NOT a laxative tea. They are made with no fillers, no additives, and no laxatives – so they're safe to drink every day. Their ReadySlim's 28 Day Detox Tea Kit has both the morning and evening tea. And right now, for a limited time you can save 25% on your first order of ReadySlim's 28 Day Detox Tea Kit plus get a FREE collapsible water bottle! Go to ReadySlim.com/SELFIE and use code SELFIE.  These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.  

The Twenty Minute VC: Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
Welcome 20Growth: How To Hire a Head of Growth? What are Signs of World-Class Talent? How To Structure the Process? How To Onboard Growth Teams? The Relationship Between Head of Growth and CEO and more with Casey Winters, Chief Product Officer @ Eventbrit

The Twenty Minute VC: Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 22, 2021 43:00


Casey Winters is the Chief Product Officer at Eventbrite where he leads the PM, product design, research, and growth marketing teams. Prior to Eventbrite, Casey spent close to 3 years at Pinterest where he led the growth product team. At Pinterest, Casey turned SEO into a scalable acquisition strategy, increasing conversion to signups 5x. Before Pinterest, Casey started the marketing team at Grubhub and scaled Grubhub's demand-side acquisition and retention strategies. Casey played an instrumental role in scaling Grubhub from 3 cities to 1,000+ and from a $1 million series A to an IPO and $7.3 billion exit. If that was not enough, Casey has also advised the likes of Canva, Hipcamp, Reddit, Faire and Career Karma to name a few. In Today's Episode with Casey Winters You Will Learn: 1.) How Casey made his way into the world of startups and came to lead some of the most powerful growth orgs in the world from Pinterest to Grubhub to Eventbrite? 2.) How does Casey define "growth" and "Head of Growth"? When is the right time to start thinking about implementing a growth team? When should one hire a growth leader? How should founders structure the process of hiring a Head of Growth? What do the stages look like? What signals suggest A* talent? What questions does Casey always ask? What tests does Casey do? 3.) What does the optimal onboarding process look like for growth teams? What tasks should a growth team perform in their first few months? What are clear signs you have an amazing candidate in place? What are some obvious red flags? How do the best growth teams approach post-mortems? How are they structured? Who attends them? How often? 4.) What is the ideal relationship between the Head of Growth and the CEO? How often do they meet? What do the best CEOs expect from their growth teams? How does Casey approach the relationship between growth teams and product teams? How does one know when to have an independent growth team vs within the product or marketing team? 5.) Casey AMA: What has been a decision that Casey made without data to back it up? How did it go? What were Casey's lessons? How does Casey prevent past experiments from impacting his future tactics? How does Casey's management style differ when managing larger vs smaller growth teams? How has angel investing impacted his approach to scaling growth teams?

Myths and Legends
240A-German Fairy Tales: Man of Glass

Myths and Legends

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 22, 2021 39:44


A German fairy tale about striving, falling short, and then seeking help from dangerous mythological creatures to help you pick up the slack. The creature is Azrail, the giant who is terrible at fighting. -- Sponsors: Butcherbox: Get free ground beef for life! Sign up at http://butcherbox.com/myths and get two pounds of ground beef free in every order for the life of your membership. Grubhub: check them out online (http://grubhub.com) or through the app! Audible: Go to http://audible.com/dreaming to listen to the next part of The Sandman! Laithwaites Wine: get 6 amazing bottles of wine, plus 2 bonus bottles AND two stemless wine glasses for $49.99 plus tax, with FREE delivery. Just text “MYTHS” to 64000 -- Links: The dog calendar: https://myths.link/pooches The store: https://myths.link/store The membership: https://www.mythpodcast.com/membership See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Welcome to the OC, Bitches!
The Goodbye Girl with Navi Rawat

Welcome to the OC, Bitches!

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 21, 2021 67:20


Rachel and Melinda discuss “The Goodbye Girl,” (S1 Ep21) with Navi Rawat, who played Theresa Diaz on The OC. Later, the hosts are joined by super-fan and Vanderpump Rules star, Scheana Shay! Navi comments on Theresa's life choices in this episode. She also shares which cast members she still sees, and who she enjoyed working with during filming. The women discuss being working moms, their favorite characters from Friends, and Anna's real reason for leaving Newport. Then, the hosts are joined by Scheana Shay and her baby, named after Rachel's character, Summer! Hear about how motherhood is going, Scheana's long-standing obsession with The OC, and a few teases to Season 9 of Vanderpump Rules, returning next Tuesday, September 28th. The Goodbye Girl Synopsis: Another week, another party in Newport - this time honoring Caleb as Riviera Magazine's Man of the Year. Sandy makes an unethical choice to protect Kirsten when Caleb puts him in the middle of an illegal situation. Ryan and Theresa rekindle their relationship but there are tons of questions (from everyone) on how they're going to make it work. And when Anna announces that she is leaving Newport to go back to her home in Pittsburgh, Seth feels guilt-ridden that it's because of him. Leave the OC, Bitches a message: https://www.speakpipe.com/ocbitches Please support our sponsors: Get fresh, pre-measured ingredients and mouthwatering seasonal recipes delivered right to your door with HelloFresh. Go to https://www.HelloFresh.com/oc14 and use code oc14 for up to 14 free meals, including free shipping! It's time for a home refresh with furniture from Article. Get $50 off your first purchase of $100 or more at https://www.Article.com/OC. Grubhub loves restaurants, and they're doing a little extra to serve Panera. Get a Free Delivery Perk on your first order from Panera of $15 or more. Visit https://www.Grubhub.com or use the app to order. Start building better habits for healthier, long-term results. Sign up for your trial at https://www.Noom.com/OC. If you've got a great idea, a passion, or a business you want to get off the ground, you've got to check out Squarespace. Visit https://www.squarespace.com/THEOC for a free trial and when you're ready to launch, use the offer code THEOC to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain. Follow https://www.instagram.com/rachelbilson & https://www.instagram.com/themelindaclarke on Instagram! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Selfie
Do I Have ADD? Am I On the Spectrum? What To Do If You Are Suspecting You're Neurodivergent | Selfie Podcast Episode 184

Selfie

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 15, 2021 39:06


From Tiktok to Youtube, more and more people are talking about their ADD or neurodivergence, and the result is that many of us are wondering . . . is this me? BJ talks about what to do if you suspect it could be true. Kristen talks about shifting away from blogging as a profession, and Roo gives us her outsourcing laundry hack. In this episode we talked about:  Target Composition Journals Overnight Oats Tea Organizer Laundry Service Thrive Causemetics is a clean beauty brand with skin-loving ingredients that not only highlight your best features – they actually improve your skin over time! Their clinically-proven formulas are made without parabens, sulfates, and phthalates and never tested on animals. We love everything about Thrive Causemetics, from the quality of their makeup to the clean formulations to their Bigger Than Beauty mission to help others! We think you will love them too. Visit ThriveCausemetics.com/selfie for 15% off your first order! Give InKind is a platform specifically created for offering care. It is highly customizable and offers a number of ways for family, friends, and even strangers to help out. It offers a variety of ways to crowdfund, as well as the ability to set up care like meals and housekeeping. It allows people to sign up to bring a homemade meal, or to choose an option to send a meal through GrubHub, or simply a gift card to any number of meal delivery services. They also offer the ability to send a number of gifts that are appropriate for times of crisis and loss. Whether you are having a baby, preparing for surgery or a hospital stay, battling cancer, or simply want to support your friends as they go through a challenging time - Give InKind is a great place to coordinate any and all of life's disruptions (the good and bad) and get people the support they need. You can check them out at GiveInKind.com.

Hey YA
Opening Grub Hub and Doing Some Damage

Hey YA

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 15, 2021 34:18


Kelly and Erica highlight excellent books for Latinx Heritage Month and dig into must-read YA memoirs. Follow the podcast via RSS, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or Stitcher. To get even more YA news and recommendations, sign up for our What's Up in YA newsletter! This content contains affiliate links. When you buy through these links, we may earn an affiliate commission. Shownotes Latinx Kid Lit Book Fest SimoneBreaks All The Rules by Debbie Rigaud Fat Chance, Charlie Vega by Crystal Maldonado “Fat Girls in YA” with Crystal Maldonado Somewhere Between Bitter And Sweet by Laekan Zea Kemp Tigers, Not Daughters by Samantha Mabry Undead Girl Gang by Lily Anderson Darkroom: A Memoir in Black and White by Lila Quintero Weaver How Moon Fuentez Fell in Love with the Universe by Raquel Vasquez Gilliland Indivisible by Daniel Aleman I Was Their American Dream by Malaka Gharib The Beautiful Struggle (Young Reader's Edition) by Ta-Nehisi Coates We Are Not Broken by George M Johnson Almost American Girl by Robin Ha On Top of Glass by Karina Manta Brave Face: A Memoir by Shaun David Hutchinson A Face for Picasso by Ariel Henry Notes from a Young Black Chef (Adapted for Young Adults) by Kwame Onwuachi See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

MtM Vegas - Source for Las Vegas
Tesla Vegas Loop Breached, Cheap Shrimp & Dive Casinos + Raiders Ticket Prices Falling!

MtM Vegas - Source for Las Vegas

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 10, 2021 29:43


Episode Description Labor Day came and went with decent crowd levels, but nothing more than we have seen over the Summer. We'll talk what it was like in Vegas plus recap my night out on the Boulder Strip including one of the coolest hotel atriums, a neat dive casino and a $1.50 shrimp cocktail that was better than you would expect. We also discuss how Raiders ticket prices seem to be falling on the secondary market. Is there a lack of support for the team? Plus someone snuck their Tesla in the Vegas Loop tunnel, a new rooftop movie experience coming to Downtown and the World Sandwich Champion is bringing a new shop to Ellis Island. Are you planning to come to our Vegas meetup on September 18? Fill out this form to let us know you'll be there! https://forms.gle/A422RPdFKpVFNEwAA Enjoy our content? Support the show by applying for credit cards and other products. Links can be found at http://www.mtmvegas.com Episode Guide 0:00 Welcome to MtM Vegas 3:00 Someone breached the Vegas Loop Tesla tunnels 6:25 Vegas Labor Day crowds were big but bigger than Summer? 9:52 Hanging out on the Boulder Strip - Sam's Town amazing atrium 11:01 Skyline Casino - Cool old west theme and $1.50 shrimp cocktails 12:35 Circa's secret middle of the night cheap shrimp cocktail 14:52 MtM Vegas meetup coming on September 18 in Arts District 16:07 The business side of Grubhub's goal to kill room service at Resorts World and beyond 20:52 Raiders ticket prices are in a free fall. What is to blame? 22:30 Do the Raiders have the support of homegrown teams like the Golden Knights 23:40 Raiders are the most hated sports franchise in the USA 24:30 New rooftop movie cinema is coming to Downtown Las Vegas 26:35 Ellis Island getting new sandwich shop from “World Sandwich Champion”. 28:15 Jerry's Nugget and other Vegas dive casinos About the Show Each week thousands of people tune into our MtM Vegas news show at YouTube.com/milestomemories. Now we bring you the MtM Vegas podcast where we can spend a little more time sharing our best Vegas info, tips, reviews and stories plus talk to some of the most interesting people in Vegas.  Enjoying the podcast? Please consider leaving us a positive review on your favorite podcast platform! You can also connect with us anytime at podcast@milestomemories.com.  You can subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify or by searching "MtM Vegas" or "Miles to Memories" in your favorite podcast app. Don't forget to check out our travel/miles/points podcast as well!

Marketplace Minute
Another sign that inflation isn't going away - Midday - Marketplace Minute - September 10, 2021

Marketplace Minute

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 10, 2021 1:50


Prices paid to U.S. producers rose 0.7% last month; Toyota is cutting production by 300-thousand vehicles; DoorDash, Uber Eats and Grubhub are suing New York City; the buy now, pay later company Affirm announced better-than-expected fourth quarter earnings

Myths and Legends
238-Indian Folklore: Blue Raja

Myths and Legends

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 8, 2021 48:53


A story from India about what happens when a murder cult who turns intruders into dogs moves in across the river and why you should get as far away as possible...because of the murder cult that turns people into dogs. The creature is Bolster the giant! He has fun festivals celebrating him (dying)! -- Sponsors: Simplisafe! Save 20% off your Simplisafe system and get your first month free when you sign up for Interactive Monitoring Service by going to http://simplisafe.com/legends Grubhub! Check it out! Order through the Grubhub app or online at http://grubhub.com Headspace! Go to http://headspace.com/legends for a free 1-month trial with full access to Headspace's full library of meditations for any situation. Grove! Get awesome stuff delivered to your door. Go to http://grove.com/legends for a free starter pack! -- Music: All music by Blue Dot Sessions -- Links: T-Rex bust candle: https://myths.link/t-rex Twitter: https://myths.link/twitter Shop: https://myths.link/store Membership: https://www.mythpodcast.com/membership See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Welcome to the OC, Bitches!
The Heartbreak with Kaitlyn Bristowe

Welcome to the OC, Bitches!

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 7, 2021 90:20


Rachel and Melinda discuss “The Heartbreak,” (S1 Ep19) but first, they chat with Off the Vine podcast host and former Bachelorette contestant, now co-host, Kaitlyn Bristowe. Kaitlyn asks her pressing OC questions to the hosts. Find out her favorite Summer quote from this episode, hear about her time on Dancing with the Stars, and find out what Julie and Summer would do for their intros if they were on the Bachelor! And for this sex-filled episode, find out the story behind “MILF,” learn which host is the romantic, and hear more about their own personal first-time stories! A special voice memo from Josh Schwartz adds some insight into the music from this episode. Leave the OC, Bitches a message: https://www.speakpipe.com/ocbitches Please support our sponsors: Step up your summer wardrobe with washable, sustainable, stylish shoes and bags from Rothy's. Head to https://www.Rothys.com/OC. Skip trips to the grocery store and count on HelloFresh to make home cooking easy, fun, and affordable – that's why it's America's #1 meal kit! Go to https://www.HelloFresh.com/oc14 and use code oc14 for up to 14 free meals, including free shipping! Today, Grubhub's doing a little extra to serve Panera. Get a Free Delivery Perk on your first order from Panera of $15 or more. Order through the Grubhub app or at https://www.Grubhub.com.  Get yourself some of the most comfortable and versatile clothing on the planet at https://www.vuoriclothing.com/oc. Listeners of the show will receive 20% off plus free shipping on any U.S. orders over $75 and free returns. Truebill is the new app that helps you identify and stop paying for subscriptions you don't need, want, or simply have forgotten about. Visit https://www.TrueBill.com/OC to get started. Follow https://www.instagram.com/rachelbilson & https://www.instagram.com/themelindaclarke on Instagram! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Myths and Legends
237B-Odyssey Finale: To Strive, to Seek, to Find, and not to Yield

Myths and Legends

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 1, 2021 47:21


Odysseus confronts the suitors, and our long journey comes to its end. The creatures (Bakwas and Dzunukwa) just want to make you a roommate in their strange, invisible house. Or kill you. Or both. -- Sponsors: Halo Collar: Go to http://shophalocollar.com/myths to save 20% on your Halo Collar! Grubhub: Check it out! Order through the Grubhub app or online at http://grubhub.com Butcherbox: Right now, new members can get three pounds of chicken breast, two pounds of burgers, and one pack of hotdogs for free! Go to http://butcherbox.com/myths -- Music: All music by Blue Dot Sessions (https://sessions.blue) -- Links: Disclaimer and poem: https://myths.link/237b Twitter: https://myths.link/twitter Shop: https://myths.link/store Membership: https://www.mythpodcast.com/membership See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Myths and Legends
233C-King Arthur: Not Dead Yet

Myths and Legends

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 28, 2021 41:32


We finish up our current run of King Arthur episodes with the most evil castle in the land having fallen...maybe. Some knights will learn that the threat might not be so far removed, and Lancelot meets the dastardly commander of the Dolorous Guard...who might actually be pretty terrible at his job of being terrible. The creature is the Yech, a tiny shapeshifting cat in a top hat! Who wants to set you on fire! -- Sponsors: Best Fiends: Check out the 5 star-rated puzzle game FREE today on the App Store or Google Play! KiwiCo: Get your first month free on select crates at http://kiwico.com.myths Canva: Design like a por with Canva Pro. Get a free 45-day extended trail when you go to http://canva.me/myths Grubhub: Get a free delivery perk on your first order from Panera of $15 or more! Check it out: order through the Grubhub app or online! -- Links: Bread Pillow: https://myths.link/breadpillow Twitter: https://myths.link/twitter Shop: https://myths.link/store Membership: https://www.mythpodcast.com/membership -- Music: "Setting Out on a Quest" by "Gallant Fantasie" by Blue Dot Sessions "Two Boys and a Girl" by Podington Bear "Vegimaine" by Blue Dot Sessions "Selena Leica" by Blue Dot Sessions "Hardsider" by Blue Dot Sessions See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.