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Henry Moeran is joined by former England spinner Phil Tufnell, London Spirit bowler Tymal Mills and Durham coach Ryan Campbell as England continue the hunt for a new head coach and captain, a month before the next Test Series against Pakistan. Whilst the search goes on for the new Test head coach after Brendon McCullum's sacking last Sunday, McCullum has remained as England's white-ball coach and has led England to a 2-1 ODI series win against India since his sacking. The panel discuss what England need from their test head coach and who the leading contenders are.The 2026 edition of The Hundred is set to get underway with significant changes from previous years. The panel are joined by Vikram Banerjee, managing director of The Hundred to go through the new changes and what it means for the tournament. Chair of Glamorgan Mark Rhydderch-Roberts and co-owner of Welsh Fire Sanjay Govil also join the podcast to discuss the business element of the tournament.TIME CODES: 00:00 Intro 01:00 England's hunt for a head coach 10:00 Should it be a short-term appointment? 13:45 The search for a captain 20:40 Runners and riders for the coach position 29:20 Ben Stokes and Durham 32:45 A new era for The Hundred and managing director Vikram Banerjee 42:00 Is The Hundred different? 45:46 Mark Rhydderch-Roberts and co-owner of Welsh Fire Sanjay Govil 49:00 The business behind a team 53:34 Tymal and Tuffers ahead of the tournament

Leg Before Wallet Ep5 - The Hundred 2026 Preview by The Barstewards

This week, we celebrate our 600th (at least) episode with a reunion of the Dudes! Grant, Randy, Kyle, Nick, and Les have a chaotic catch-up about all things TV Dudes! What are our previous hosts watching, now that they don't have to discuss it weekly?? Will Kyle drive Nick nuts? Was Nick already too crazy for us to notice the shift? All these answers, plus Grant tells us about Dungeon Crawler Carl, which is a book (we're told it's a thing you "read"). We'll investigate. Let's GO!!

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Encore registration - "Piano Ten Thousand Leaves" was completed on May 16, 2026. And as a post-completion activity, I hope to deliver it to people 1000 years from now. And so, I have begun "Piano Ten Thousand Leaves - beyond completion -- The Millennium Forest --". I will not be creating any new songs, but I will select one song from the 4536 songs I previously created and re-register it here. ===================================================== 《ピアノ万葉集》は2026年5月16日に完結しました。 そして完結後の活動として、1000年後の皆様に届けたいと考えています。 そして、《ピアノ万葉集》完結世界 -- 深森千年紀 -- を始めています。 そして新しい曲は創りませんが、前に創っている4536曲の中から１曲を選んでここで再登録させて頂きます。 =========================== The Complete Works of Piano Ten Thousand Leaves Vol.3-2 =========================== #spotify: https://open.spotify.com/intl-ja/album/3Vm796tVBoyWIEp1mLOpD6?si=XAl79oycSLew593UEF2VkQ #AppleMusic: https://music.apple.com/us/album/the-complete-works-of-piano-ten-thousand-leaves-vol-3-2/6787596397 #amazonmusic https://amazon.co.jp/music/player/albums/B0H7PGFDNP?marketplaceId=A1VC38T7YXB528&musicTerritory=JP&ref=dm_sh_TvnOaWB0wpvmYJqquVwEz0Do6 ＃YoutubeMusic: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nwzdnA7O232R4vuv1c1duYeQAx9i9Rtak&si=5ojmgsW5cxlv0h_h #LineMusic https://lin.ee/5SED98v #AWA https://s.awa.fm/album/17c47b59557f20fb0620?t=1783245626 --- All Music Streaming Services: 全曲視聴可能なのが嬉しいですね… https://linkco.re/rqBErhU1 =========================== The Complete Works of Piano Ten Thousand Leaves Vol.3-1 =========================== VOLUME3-1 just released! Gentleness, carried on 4,536 leaves of sound. #spotify: https://open.spotify.com/intl-ja/album/5aSDLOUFLgmoK0Nu5uYvxK?si=FxFC1shbTNmcVsbGuZzufw #AppleMusic:  #amazonmusic https://amazon.co.jp/music/player/albums/B0H6VDD1KC?marketplaceId=A1VC38T7YXB528&musicTerritory=JP&ref=dm_sh_Ke44Vvf27v9Scn17Q3GlghCkH ＃YoutubeMusic: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_keXkSwBS2JvaxE-tEwAuXmIOe4CzSijgY&si=tJYfAwa-8cQ8sUyh #LineMusic https://lin.ee/pOzyULD #AWA https://s.awa.fm/album/95f94c20e913e538ed09?t=1782684025 --- All Music Streaming Services: 全曲視聴可能なのが嬉しいですね… https://linkco.re/AAZ0NrcQ

Every family has stories. Some are passed down from generation to generation, while others are nearly lost to time. In this episode of GenX Journeys, Paul Stroessner and Suzanne Mattaboni welcome author Lara Brenckle Malmont to share the remarkable true story that inspired her debut novel, Three Rivers Home. What began as childhood curiosity about a grandfather she never met turned into a twenty-year journey through family records, newspaper archives, courthouse documents, and long-forgotten letters. Along the way, Lara discovered a little-known chapter of Pittsburgh history involving children who were "farmed out" through Allegheny County's early foster care system—while also uncovering a deeper understanding of resilience, family, and the stories that shape us. The conversation also explores growing up Gen X, the books that inspired a generation of readers and writers, the influence of journalism, preserving family history before it's lost, and why asking questions may be one of the greatest gifts we can pass on. Whether you're fascinated by genealogy, historical fiction, or simply love hearing meaningful conversations, this episode is a reminder that every family has a story worth discovering. In This Episode Growing up Gen X in and around Pittsburgh How childhood curiosity became a 20-year research project The true story behind Three Rivers Home Forgotten history and Pittsburgh's early foster care system Journalism, storytelling, and historical fiction The books that shaped a generation of Gen X readers Why preserving family stories matters more than ever About Our Guest Lara Brenckle Malmont is a Pittsburgh native, journalist, and author of Three Rivers Home. Her writing explores the people, places, and stories that define home. Her debut novel is inspired by the true story of her paternal grandfather's childhood in early twentieth-century Pittsburgh and the forgotten history surrounding Allegheny County's dependent children. Connect with Lara larabrencklemalmont.com Get Three Rivers Home on Amazon Facebook Instagram (@lara_brenckle_malmont) LinkedIn: larabrenckle TikTok: @larabrencklemalmont X: @larabrenckle Closing If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe, leave a review, and share it with someone who loves great stories and meaningful conversations. Because every journey begins with a question... and sometimes the answers change everything.   Who in your family has a story you've never asked about? Maybe it's time to start asking.   More from the GenX Book Club Crew

Ninety-four 100-mile races finished. 14 DNFs. A bartending shift that turned into a Red Bull sponsorship. Karl Meltzer, known as the "Speedgoat," sits down with Joe De Sena to talk about what it actually takes to keep showing up to the start line at 58 years old.   They break down his mental strategy for surviving the darkest hours of a hundred-miler, the races he dropped out of, why 11 of his 14 DNFs were mental, and what that taught him about headspace. Karl walks through the three non-negotiables he gives anyone who wants to stay in the game: get outside every day, build a routine you protect, and keep moving even when the first ten minutes fight you. Things You Will Learn: A single-word mental reset that keeps you moving when everything in your body says quit. Why most DNFs are mental, not physical and what that means for your own breaking points. The three daily non-negotiables that sustain performance across decades, not just seasons. Tools & Frameworks Covered: The Blink Reset: When suffering peaks, compress your timeline. Tomorrow at this time, you will be done. That reframe keeps your legs moving now. Headspace Audit: If your mind is checked out before the start line, the race is already lost. Identify whether the resistance is physical or mental before you act on it. Three-Point Daily Standard: Get outside. Protect your routine. Start moving even when the first ten minutes resist you. Consistency across years beats intensity across weeks. If this episode moved you, do not just listen. Do something about it. Sign up. Show up. Do the work. Spartan.com. No more excuses. Chapters: 00:00 Intro: 94 hundred-milers and counting 01:23 How Karl Meltzer found his distance at 100 miles 03:00 The bartending shift that landed a Red Bull sponsorship 04:36 Why luck only works if you follow up 07:58 Going from 71 to 100 finishes raising the bar at 58 10:15 What Karl tells people who have never run 100 miles 11:15 The dark place: how to fight the urge to quit at mile 60 13:00 The DNFs that still haunt him and what headspace really costs 15:01 Three daily non-negotiables: outside, routine, and just start 17:29 Nutrition, burgers, and refusing to be methodical 20:36 What Karl would tell his 10-year-old self 21:40 The plan to reach 100: Hard Rock, Wasatch, and the final six Karl Meltzer, known as "Speedgoat," is the most accomplished 100-mile trail runner in history, with 50 wins at the distance and nearly 100 career 100-mile finishes. Over a 25-year career, he has built a reputation for treating extreme suffering as a mechanical problem to be solved rather than a reason to quit.   From failing twice before conquering the Appalachian Trail FKT to redefining what elite endurance looks like in his 50s, Karl represents resilience, longevity, and relentless discipline. His story is about consistency, mental toughness, and finding what actually works instead of following trends. Connect to Karl:   Website: https://karlmeltzer.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/meltzerkarl/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MeltzerKarl/

The Department of Government Efficiency, better known as DOGE, has officially been terminated. Its July 4th sunset date was part of Donald Trump's original executive order that created the agency, which Elon Musk ran. During his tenure, Musk oversaw the dismantling of U.S.A.I.D., which used to provide life-saving medical and nutritional programs around the world. Musk, who recently became the world's first trillionaire, claims that there is no evidence that a single person died after DOGE cancelled more than eighty per cent of U.S.A.I.D.'s programs, cutting basic health-care access to some ninety-five million people. Atul Gawande disagrees. He was the assistant administrator for global health at  U.S.A.I.D. until he stepped down, the same week Trump ended U.S. foreign assistance. Gawande says an estimated seven hundred thousand people have already died as a result of the cuts. David Remnick speaks with the longtime New Yorker contributor about the profound effects of ending U.S.A.I.D.'s work abroad, Musk's involvement in these decisions, and the deaths it all has wrought.    Further reading, viewing, and listening:  “The Shutdown of U.S.A.I.D. Has Already Killed Hundreds of Thousands,” film by Thomas Jennings and Annie Wong, text by Atul Gawande “Hundreds of Thousands Will Die,” an episode of The New Yorker Radio Hour “Behind the Chaotic Attempt to Freeze Federal Assistance,” by Atul Gawande The Political Scene draws on the reporting and analysis found in The New Yorker for lively conversations about the big questions in American politics. Join the magazine's writers and editors as they put into context the latest news—about elections, the economy, the White House, the Supreme Court, and much more. New episodes are available three times a week.  Tune in to The Political Scene wherever you get your podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Cameron, Ben and Phil react to the big news that Brendon McCullum has been stood down as England's Test head coach. They discuss Bazball's legacy, potential replacements, the decision to keep him in the white-ball jobs and more. 0:00 Intro / 1:28 Brendon McCullum / 11:05 Bazball legacy / 20:15 Potential replacements / 38:06 Rob Key / 45:58 Timing of the announcement / 50:06 Keith Prowse / 51:31 T20 Blast / 56:25 Tammy Beaumont & Heather Knight / 1:03:40 Gambling sponsors allowed in The Hundred / 1:11:04 ECB block Euro Nations Cup final at Lord's / 1:14:18 Southall Travel / 1:15:33 ICC board meeting / 1:17:42 West Indies / 1:20:23 Outro KEITH PROWSE

The Department of Government Efficiency, better known as DOGE, has officially been terminated. Its July 4th sunset date was part of Donald Trump's original executive order that created the agency, which Elon Musk ran. During his tenure, Musk oversaw the dismantling of U.S.A.I.D., which used to provide life-saving medical and nutritional programs around the world. Musk, who recently became the world's first trillionaire, claims that there is no evidence that a single person died after DOGE cancelled more than eighty per cent of U.S.A.I.D.'s programs, cutting basic health-care access to some ninety-five million people. Atul Gawande disagrees. He was the assistant administrator for global health at  U.S.A.I.D. until he stepped down, the same week Trump ended U.S. foreign assistance. Gawande says an estimated seven hundred thousand people have already died as a result of the cuts. David Remnick speaks with the longtime New Yorker contributor about the profound effects of ending U.S.A.I.D.'s work abroad, Musk's involvement in these decisions, and the deaths it all has wrought.    Further reading, viewing, and listening:  “The Shutdown of U.S.A.I.D. Has Already Killed Hundreds of Thousands,” film by Thomas Jennings and Annie Wong, text by Atul Gawande “Hundreds of Thousands Will Die,” an episode of The New Yorker Radio Hour “Behind the Chaotic Attempt to Freeze Federal Assistance,” by Atul Gawande New episodes of The New Yorker Radio Hour drop every Tuesday and Friday. Follow the show wherever you get your podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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If you’ve ever wondered whether alcohol permanently damaged your body—or you’ve quit drinking and found yourself asking, Why am I so anxious? Why can’t I sleep? Why do I still have brain fog?—this episode is for you. Today I’m walking you through what actually happens inside your body after you stop drinking. Not the social media myths. Not the gimmicks. The real biology. You’ll learn how alcohol changes your brain chemistry, why early sobriety can feel so intense, and what your body is doing behind the scenes to restore balance. We talk about the science behind sleep disruption, why your liver is one of the most remarkable organs in your body, how alcohol affects your gut, heart, immune system, and hormones, and why so many people begin feeling physically better long before they feel emotionally healed. One of the biggest messages I want you to take away is this: feeling worse after you quit drinking doesn’t mean alcohol was helping you. It means your body is recalibrating after years of adapting to alcohol. But we also have an important conversation about what sobriety doesn’t magically fix. Trauma, stress, anxiety, menopause, low testosterone, nervous system dysregulation, and emotional healing don’t disappear simply because you stopped drinking. Recovery is bigger than removing alcohol—it’s learning how to build a life you don’t want to escape from. In this episode, you’ll learn: 01:25 Your brain: GABA, glutamate & early sobriety 05:56 Alcohol and sleep: why you wake up at 3 AM 13:38 Your liver’s incredible ability to heal 19:07 Gut health, nutrient absorption & inflammation 24:22 Your heart, immune system & hormones after alcohol 36:26 Physical healing vs. emotional recovery If you’ve been wondering whether your body can recover after years of drinking, I hope this episode gives you something so many people desperately need in early sobriety: hope. Your body isn’t working against you. It’s been fighting for you all along.   Links mentioned in this episode:  Book A Call with Angela: addictionunlimited.com/call Join Sober Society: addictionunlimited.com/society Related Episode: Worried About Your Health in Sobriety? Here's How Your Body Heals After Drinking Instagram:  @addictionunlimited Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/addictionunlimited     Prefer to read instead of listen? Here's the full transcript of this episode. Angela (00:11.96) Hello, my friend. Welcome back to Addiction Unlimited Podcast. I’m your coach, Angela Pugh. If you’ve ever wondered whether alcohol permanently damaged your body, or you’ve quit drinking and found yourself asking, like, is this normal? Why am I so tired? Why am I anxious? Why can’t I sleep? Why do I still have brain fog after a month? Then this episode is for you. Because here’s what I want you to know right from the beginning. Your body wants to heal. In fact, healing begins within hours of your last drink. And while every person’s recovery looks a little different depending on how long they drank, how much they drank, age, genetics, nutrition, overall health, the human body is remarkably resilient. Today we’re going to walk through what alcohol actually does to different systems in your body, what happens when you remove it, what kind of timeline you can realistically expect. And why some parts of recovery happen on a calendar while other parts happen because of the work you choose to do. Angela (01:24.884) Here’s the thing about alcohol that almost nobody explains right. It’s not a substance your brain tolerates, it’s a substance your brain adapts to. Every single time you drink, your brain has to do damage control. And alcohol is a depressant. And before we go any further, I want to clear up one of the biggest misconceptions about that concept. When we say alcohol is a depressant, We don’t mean it makes you depressed or sad. We mean it depresses or slows down the activity of your central nervous system. Think of your central nervous system as the command center for everything your body does. It’s your brain and spinal cord communicating with every other system in your body. It controls your thoughts, your reaction time, your breathing and heart rate. Your coordination, your judgment, memory, emotions, everything. Alcohol comes in and starts turning the volume down on that entire system. Your thoughts and reflexes slow down, your reaction time slows down, your coordination gets worse, speech changes, your judgment becomes impaired. That’s what a depressant does. It slows the activity of your nervous system. But here’s where it gets really interesting. Your brain is obsessed with one thing, keeping you alive. And more specifically, it wants balance. Scientists call this homeostasis. Your brain wants everything operating within a pretty narrow range. So when alcohol keeps slamming on the brakes, Angela (03:13.194) Your brain wants everything operating within a pretty narrow range. So when alcohol keeps slamming on the brakes, your brain doesn’t just sit there and accept it, right? It adapts. It starts pressing the gas pedal to compensate. It ramps up excitatory chemicals, mainly glutamate. And over time it becomes less responsive to the calming effects of GABA because alcohol. Has been providing that calming effect artificially. Angela (03:47.384) Think of GABA as your brain’s brake pedal and glutamate as the gas pedal. As alcohol continues slowing everything down, your brain pushes harder on the gas just to keep you functioning normally. That’s why many people who drink heavily don’t necessarily look intoxicated because they’ve developed tolerance because their brain has adapted. But then one day you stop drinking. Suddenly the artificial breaks disappear. But your brain is still pressing on the gas. That’s why early sobriety can feel so physically and emotionally intense. Anxiety, restlessness, racing thoughts, irritabilities, shaky hands, trouble sleeping, feeling like your skin is crawling. Those aren’t signs something is wrong. They’re signs that your brain is trying to find its balance again. And every day you stay alcohol-free. Your brain begins adjusting in the opposite direction. It gradually turns the glutamate back down, restores its normal response to GABA, and it starts regulating itself without alcohol. That process doesn’t happen overnight, right? But it does happen. One of the biggest mistakes people make is believing that because they feel worse after they quit drinking, like alcohol must have been helping them. But that’s not what’s happening. You’re experiencing life without alcohol. You’re not experiencing life without alcohol. You’re experiencing a brain that’s recalibrating after alcohol. Those are two very different things. Angela (05:56.344) So we talked about the brain. Let’s talk about sleep. One of the biggest lies alcohol tells us is that it helps us sleep. I cannot tell you how many people say to me, Angela, I have to have a few drinks or I’ll never fall asleep. And I get it, I was exactly the same way. It certainly feels that way. Alcohol can absolutely make you fall asleep faster, but falling asleep and getting quality sleep are two completely different things. Think about it this way: if someone put you under anesthesia, Would you call that a great night’s sleep? Of course not. You were unconscious, but your brain wasn’t cycling through the normal stages of restorative sleep that your body needs. Alcohol works in a similar way. It sedates you, but it disrupts the quality of your sleep. One of the biggest problems is that alcohol suppresses REM sleep. REM stands for rapid eye movement, and it’s the stage of sleep. That is incredibly important for learning, memory, emotional processing, and just overall brain health. It’s also the stage where most dreaming happens. So even if you’ve slept for eight hours after drinking, your brain may have missed out on some of the most restorative parts of sleep. Alcohol also causes your sleep to become fragmented. Like you may fall asleep quickly, but as your body metabolizes the alcohol during the night, your brain becomes more active. It gets agitated. That’s why so many people wake up at two or three in the morning with their mind racing, heart pounding, feeling Wide awake, even though you’re exhausted. Your heart rate stays higher, your body temperature is less regulated, your breathing can become less stable, and your nervous system is working much harder than it should while you’re supposed to be recovering. The good news is this starts to improve surprisingly quickly. During the first few days after quitting drinking, sleep sometimes can get worse before it gets better. That’s completely normal. Angela (08:03.212) Because your brain is learning how to fall asleep without alcohol, and that recalibration takes time. But over the next few weeks, your sleep architecture, right? The normal pattern of moving through different stages of sleep, all of that starts to recover. Many people begin noticing they’re sleeping more deeply, they’re waking up fewer times during the night and actually feeling rested in the morning. And that’s a huge difference. Because when you were drinking, you may have been unconscious for eight hours, but now you’re actually sleeping. And I also want to be really transparent about something because I think we do people a great disservice when we oversimplify recovery. Better sleep is one of the most common benefits of quitting drinking, but it isn’t a guaranteed, but it isn’t guaranteed on some magical timeline. Right. And I know this firsthand because I’ve never been a great a great sleeper. Not when I was drinking, and honestly, not long before I ever took my first drink. I’ve struggled with sleep since I was a young teenager. As I got sober, I started real recovery and healing, and I learned that alcohol wasn’t the only problem I had with sleep. I had a lot of problems with my nervous system. Years of chronic stress, trauma, and living in survival mode. Like all of that just taught my body it wasn’t safe to fully relax. And I know I’m not alone in that. Many people discover that alcohol wasn’t the root cause of their sleep struggles. It was just the way they were trying to cope with a nervous system that had been dysregulated for years. That was certainly my story. But once the alcohol was gone, I could finally see the other factors that were affecting my sleep. That’s why I want you to be careful about comparing your recovery to someone else’s timeline. There are so many variables. There are so many variables that affect sleep, right? Your history, stress levels, trauma, anxiety, depression, hormones, perimenopause and menopause, cortisol, blood sugar, caffeine, medications, sleep apnea. Angela (10:13.036) Like there are dozens of things that influence how well you sleep. But here’s what I can tell you without hesitation. The quality of my sleep improved dramatically. There’s a huge difference between spending eight hours unconscious because of alcohol and spending eight hours moving through the natural stages of restorative sleep that your brain and body are designed to have. Even if I still have a rough night here and there, I function better as a sober person, getting sober sleep than I ever did as a person who drank myself unconscious. My brain works better, my body feels better, I have more energy, my mood is more stable, my memory is sharper. I’m actually recovering while I sleep instead of asking my body to recover from what I drank. And that’s really the theme of this entire episode. Sobriety doesn’t remove every challenge from your life. It removes one of the biggest obstacles standing between your body and its ability to do what it was designed to do, and that’s heal. And once you’re finally getting real restorative sleep again, something else starts happening. Your body can begin repairing itself more efficiently. And one of the hardest working organs in that process is your liver. So let’s talk about what happens there. Angela (11:44.61) You know, one thing I always try to be honest about is that sobriety didn’t magically make me a perfect sleeper. I’ve struggled with sleep since I was a teenager. So anything that helps create a calmer, more comfortable sleep environment, I am all about it. I’ve been sleeping on cozy earth sheets for a while now, and they really are as good as everyone says. They didn’t make it to Oprah’s favorite things list for no reason. Okay, they’re incredibly soft. And honestly, they make getting into bed at the end of the day feel like its own little luxury. And since we’re talking about recovery, I think this fits perfectly. Recovery isn’t just about removing alcohol. It’s about taking care of yourself in ways that actually support healing. And creating a bedroom that helps you relax and get quality rest is one of those things that’s worth investing in. I also love that Cozy Earth stands behind what they make. Their sheets come with a hundred-night sleep trial, their clothing has a lifetime warranty. And if something isn’t right, returns are hassle-free. That tells me they’re confident in their products. And I appreciate companies that stand behind what they sell. Summers should feel easy for everyone in the house. Cozy Earth’s bamboo sheet set, the men’s everywhere pant, the women’s joggers. They’re all amazing, comfortable, and designed to keep you relaxed all summer long. Head to cozyearth.com and use my code ANGLE for an exclusive 20% off. That’s code ANGLE for an exclusive 20% off. And if you see a post-purchase survey, mention that you heard about Cozy Earth right here on Addiction Unlimited. Angela (13:38.166) Okay, back to the liver. I have to tell you, I’m absolutely fascinated by the liver. If you’ve listened to this podcast for any length of time, you already know I’m a total brain nerd, right? I can talk about the brain for hours. But the liver, it is a very close second. It’s one of the smartest, hardest working, most dynamic organs in your body, and it doesn’t get nearly enough credit. The liver performs more than five. Hundred different functions every single day without you having to think about a single one of them. Like I say that and it makes me feel lazy. You know? It filters your blood, processes nutrients, stores vitamins, helps regulate blood sugar, produces bile so you can digest food, it makes proteins your body needs, it metabolizes medications, it supports your immune system. It just quietly goes about its business keeping you alive. Every second of every day. Then alcohol shows up. You know, the liver’s number one priority becomes breaking down that alcohol because, from your body’s perspective, alcohol is a toxin. And here’s the catch. While your liver is busy processing alcohol, many of its other jobs get pushed to the back burner. It’s like pulling your best employee away from everything they should be doing because they’re dealing with one emergency after another. If drinking becomes frequent or heavy, that emergency never really ends. Fat begins to accumulate in the liver. That’s what’s known as fatty liver disease. And it’s often the first stage of alcohol-related liver damage. the the important thing to know is that fatty liver doesn’t usually hurt, right? Most people don’t feel it happening. There may be no symptoms at all. That’s why a lot of people have no idea it’s developing. But if drinking can Continues, that fat can lead to inflammation. And over time, repeated inflammation can lead to scarring called fibrosis. If enough scar tissue builds up, it can eventually become cirrhosis. And that’s where that healthy liver tissue is permanently replaced by scar tissue. Now, I don’t tell you that to scare you. I tell you because understanding what’s happening inside your body helps make you. Angela (16:06.134) I tell you because understanding what’s happening inside your body helps you make better decisions. And here’s the hopeful part: the liver is one of the few organs in the body with an incredible ability to regenerate. In many people, healing begins within days of stopping drinking. Fat accumulation can begin to decrease within just a few weeks. And over the following months, many people with fatty liver disease can see significant improvement. It can be completely reversed if permanent damage hasn’t already happened, right? Inflammation goes down, liver function improves, your body becomes more efficient at processing nutrients and eliminating waste. Now, if someone has advanced cirrhosis, that’s a different conversation. Scar tissue that’s already formed generally can’t be reversed. But even then, stopping alcohol can slow or stop further damage. And obviously it’s gonna dramatically improve quality of life. So wherever you are on that spectrum, removing alcohol is one of the best gifts you can give your liver. Angela (17:21.354) And did you know that the liver actually has the capacity to regrow healthy tissue? Like surgeons can take a portion of a healthy liver for a living donation, and both the donor’s liver and the recipient’s transplanted portion will grow to meet the body and that body’s needs over time. I mean, think about that for a minute. It it’s amazing. It’s such an amazing organ. But so many people come into recovery believing they’ve ruined their bodies forever. And while none of us can erase the past, you have to understand the human body is amazingly resilient. If we give it the opportunity, it starts moving toward healing almost immediately. Like your liver is not just sitting there hoping for the best. You know, it’s constantly adapting, constantly repairing, constantly trying to keep keep up with whatever we throw at it. The problem is that every time alcohol shows up, your liver has to stop what it’s doing and deal with the emergency in front of it. And if alcohol keeps showing up day after day, your liver never gets the chance to fully catch up on all of its other incredibly important jobs. So the greatest gift you can give it isn’t some expensive detox tea or a cleanse you found on Instagram. Your liver already knows how to detox your body. That’s literally its job. It doesn’t need help doing its job. It just needs you to remove the thing that’s been monopolizing all of its attention. Every day you don’t drink, it can just get back to work trying to heal. And I love that because there’s a lesson in that for all of us, right? Our bodies. Angela (19:06.998) Are often far more willing to forgive us than we are willing to forgive ourselves. Your brain wants balance, your liver wants to heal. Your body is constantly trying to move you toward health. Our job isn’t to force the healing. Our job is to stop getting in its way. Okay, let’s keep following the path that alcohol naturally takes through the body, because alcohol doesn’t just affect your brain and your liver. It affects your digestive system from the very first sip. Your mouth, your esophagus, your stomach, your intestines, every step of the journey. Alcohol is incredibly irritating to the lining of your digestive tract. And over time it creates inflammation and it makes that lining more permeable. You may have heard the term leaky gut. And that phrase gets used a lot online. The medical concept behind it is what’s called increased intestinal permeability. And here’s what that means in plain English: the lining of your intestines is designed to be selective. Think of it like a really smart security guard or a coffee filter. It’s supposed to let the good stuff through things like vitamins, minerals, amino acids, and other nutrients your body needs. While keeping larger particles, toxins, and bacteria out. Alcohol can damage that protective barrier over time. Instead of being as selective as it’s supposed to be, it becomes a little more leaky. Things that normally wouldn’t pass through can slip into the bloodstream. And that triggers inflammation and forces your immune system to work harder than it should. At the very same time, your body may become less efficient at absorbing some of the nutrients it desperately needs. The protective barrier in your intestines just doesn’t work quite as well as it should. And that matters because your digestive system isn’t just responsible for digesting food, it’s responsible for absorbing nutrients. And if your body can’t absorb nutrients efficiently, it doesn’t matter how healthy you’re eating. Angela (21:25.206) You’re not getting everything your brain and body actually need. Angela (21:35.286) And alcohol interferes with the absorption of a lot of nutrients, especially B vitamins, folate, magnesium, zinc. These nutrients are involved in everything from energy production to nerve function to brain health. So when people say they feel exhausted all the time while they’re drinking, alcohol itself is part of the story. But nutritional deficient, but nutritional deficiencies can be part of that story too. Then there’s the microbiome. Your gut is home to trillions of bacteria. And I know that sounds a little gross, but you actually want them there. Those bacteria help digest food, they provide certain vitamins, they support your immune system, and they communicate with your brain. Researchers call it the gut brain axis because your gut and your brain are in constant communication. So when alcohol repeatedly disrupts that environment, it can throw the whole system out of balance. And that contributes to bloating, digestive issues, inflammation, and even mood changes. The good news is your digestive system is another one of those parts of the body that starts responding pretty quickly once alcohol is removed. Many people notice less bloating in the first week, right? And Digestion becomes more regular over the following weeks. Acid reflux may improve, stomach irritation calms down, your body becomes better at absorbing nutrients again. Angela (23:18.862) And when your body starts absorbing nutrients more efficiently, you’re giving your brain better raw materials to work with. That’s another reason people will often notice improvements in energy and concentration and mood over time. It’s not one magical thing, it’s dozens of systems all getting a chance to do their jobs again. And I do want to make one thing clear because I don’t think because I don’t want anyone listening to think sobriety automatically fixes every digestive issue you’ll ever have, right? If you have food sensitivities, IBS, celiac, gallbladder problems, another medical condition, those don’t magically disappear because you quit drinking. Again, life is still going to be life, but removing alcohol eliminates one major source of irritation. It gives your digestive system a chance to calm down and work the way it was designed to work. Angela (24:21.804) And I love that idea because it keeps coming back to the same theme. Your body isn’t sitting around waiting to fail you, it’s constantly trying to heal you. Sometimes it just needs you to stop interrupting the process. So let’s talk about your heart. Your heart has one job, right? Keep blood moving. Every minute of every day, it’s delivering oxygen and nutrients to every cell in your body and carrying away waste products. And just like your liver, it never takes a day off. Alcohol asks a lot of your heart. Even a single night of heavy drinking raises your heart rate and your blood pressure. That’s one of the reasons so many people wake up after drinking feeling like their heart’s pounding out of their chest. It isn’t just anxiety. Your cardiovascular system is working harder than it should. And when drinking becomes frequent, that extra workload starts adding up. Alcohol can contribute to high blood pressure, irregular heart rhythms, inflammation, and over many years, it can weaken the heart muscle itself. It also increases your risk for heart attack, stroke, especially with long-term heavy drinking. The encouraging news is that your heart responds surprisingly well when alcohol is removed. For a lot of people, heart rate begins settling down within days. Blood pressure often starts improving in a matter of weeks, although that depends on a lot of factors too: genetics, weight, medications, diet exercise, other health conditions, blah, blah, blah. Again, I don’t want to oversimplify it. Sobriety isn’t a cure for every heart condition, but removing alcohol takes a tremendous amount of unnecessary stress off your cardiovascular system. Your heart isn’t Constantly trying to compensate anymore. It gets to just do the job it was designed to do instead of cleaning up after alcohol all the time. Angela (26:29.242) And when your heart is pumping efficiently, then your circulation improves, and oxygen and nutrients are getting where they need to go. And every other system benefits from that. Your muscles recover better, your brain gets better blood flow, your energy improves, even your skin looks healthier because of improved circulation and reduced inflammation, right? Everything in your body is connected. That’s something I hope you’re starting to hear throughout this episode. We tend to think about alcohols affecting one organ at a time or whatever, but your body doesn’t work that way. Your brain talks to your gut, your tu your gut talks to your immune system, your liver supports metabolism, your heart delivers oxygen and nutrients everywhere. They’re all part of the same team. And when alcohol is out of the picture, it’s not just one player that gets better. The whole team starts working together again. And then there’s your immune system, right? I think this is another one of those systems that doesn’t get enough credit. Most of us only think about our immune system when we catch a cold or the flu. But your immune system is working every single day. It’s identifying viruses and bacteria, it’s repairing damaged tissues, cleaning up injured cells, helping wound. Helping wounds heal, monitoring for abnormal cells. It’s constantly scanning, communicating, and protecting you. And alcohol throws a wrench into that entire process, right? One of the biggest things alcohol does is increase inflammation throughout your whole body. Now, inflammation isn’t automatically a bad thing, right? If you cut your finger, inflammation is what helps it heal. If you catch a virus, inflammation is part of your body’s defense system. Angela (28:25.282) The problem is when inflammation never really gets the chance to turn off. That’s what chronic inflammation is. It’s like having your home’s smoke alarm going off all day, every day. Eventually, the whole system becomes stressed. Alcohol can keep your immune system in that constant state of activation. It’s responding to the alcohol itself. It’s responding to damage in the liver. It’s responding to changes in the gut. It’s responding to disrupted sleep. Everything we’ve talked about so far is connected. And over time, that chronic inflammation can contribute to fatigue, slower healing, increased risk of getting sick, and a higher risk for a lot of chronic diseases. Alcohol doesn’t just overactivate parts of your immune system. It can also weaken your ability to fight infections effectively, right? So if you’re in this strange situation where your immune system is working overtime in some ways while becoming less effective in others, it’s busy, but not necessarily efficient. When you stop drinking, that constant alarm finally starts quieting down. Inflammation begins decreasing, your immune system isn’t spending all of its energy responding to alcohol anymore. And it can start focusing on what it’s actually designed to do. And a lot of people notice they don’t get sick anymore. That was huge for me. I had like clockwork a few times a year. I would get super sick and be in bed for, you know, seven, eight days. And I’ve been sober 20 years. I hardly ever get sick. I don’t even get sick when my whole family is sick. Лайк ітскрази the difference it makes. Angela (30:16.588) But even when you do get sick, you recover more quickly too, right? Cuts and bruises heal faster. You just feel better. And while you can’t see inflammation the way you can see a cut on your hand, you definitely notice its absence, right? Like you wake up feeling less puffy, your face looks, your face looks less swollen, your joints don’t ache quite as much. Like your body feels lighter. Again, it isn’t magic, it’s biology. Your body’s been trying to restore balance all along. Removing alcohol just gives it one less battle to fight every single day. I think that’s one of the most hopeful things about recovery. Your body isn’t waiting for permission to heal. It’s been trying to heal from the very beginning. And sometimes the greatest act of self-care isn’t adding another supplement or buying another wellness product. Sometimes it’s simply stopping the thing that’s keeping your body stuck in survival mode. Angela (31:20.832) Okay, and then there are hormones, fucking hormones, ruining lives all day, every day. Okay, that might be a little dramatic, but only a little. When most people hear the word hormones, they immediately think about women: estrogen, PMS, perimenopause, menopause. And yes, we’re definitely going to talk about that. But hormones aren’t just a women’s issue. Every single one of us is running on hormones. They are your body’s chemical. Messengers. Okay, think of them like tiny text messages traveling throughout your body, telling different organs and systems what to do and when to do it. They help regulate your mood, your stress response, appetite, metabolism, sleep energy, sex drive, reproductive health, blood sugar, muscle mass, your body temperature. They influence almost everything we’ve talked about in this episode. And alcohol has its hands in all of it. So let’s start with cortisol. That’s your body’s primary stress hormone. Remember back in the beginning of the episode when we talked about alcohol slowing your nervous system down and your brain trying to compensate? Well, alcohol also disrupts your stress response. It can temporarily make you feel relaxed while you’re drinking, but as it wears off, cortisol often rises. That’s one of the reasons so many people wake up at two or three in the morning feeling. Anxious and restless and sweaty or like their heart is racing. It’s not just anxiety. Your stress hormones are literally shifting while you’re sleeping. And then there’s blood sugar. Alcohol can cause blood sugar to swing up and down, especially if you’re drinking on an empty stomach or you’re drinking sugary drinks. Those swings don’t just affect your energy, they affect your mood, your cravings, your concentration, even your ability to sleep well. And then there are sex hormones. Ladies, if you’ve ever been in perimenopause or menopause, you probably don’t need me to tell you that hormones can make life interesting, let’s say. Hot flashes, night sweats, mood swings, brain fogs, sleep disruption. I mean, sound familiar? Alcohol makes every one of those symptoms worse. Angela (33:44.852) It can intensify hot flashes, fragments your sleep even more, increases anxiety, it adds another layer of inflammation to a body that’s already going through enormous hormonal changes. So if you’re wondering why that nightly glass of wine doesn’t seem to be helping anymore, or why you suddenly feel worse instead of better, that may be part of the reason. But I also want to say something to the men listening: alcohol affects your hormones too. Heavy drinking can lower testosterone levels over time. And that affects energy, mood, muscle mass, strength, recovery after exercise, sex drive, even fertility. So if you’ve been feeling tired all the time or struggling to build muscle despite working out, or you’re noticing a lower sex drive, or you just feel like you don’t have the same drive and motivation you used to have, alcohol may be playing a much bigger role than you think. Again, it’s about understanding what’s happening inside your body. The encouraging thing. Angela (35:05.214) And many of these hormonal disruptions begin improving once alcohol is removed, right? Cortisol becomes more regulated, blood sugar becomes more stable, sleep improves, which supports healthier hormone production, inflammation decreases, your body starts communicating with itself more effectively again. And again, I don’t want to oversimplify this because if you’re in menopause, alcohol isn’t the only reason you’re having hot flashes. If you’re a man with clinically low testosterone, Quitting drinking isn’t guaranteed to bring your levels back to normal. Hormones are complicated. Age matters, genetics matter, medical conditions matter, stress matters. Just like we talked about with sleep, life is still going to be life. But removing alcohol gives your endocrine system one less obstacle to overcome. It gives your body the opportunity to find its natural rhythm again instead of constantly reacting to a substance that throws the whole orchestra off tempo. And that’s really what hormones are all about: communication, coordination, and balance. When alcohol leaves the picture, your body finally gets a chance to start having the conversations it was designed to have. Angela (36:25.866) As we wrap up this episode, I hope there’s one thing you take away from everything we’ve talked about today. Your body is incredibly intelligent. It is constantly working to protect you, adapt to whatever you give it, and move you toward healing. Your brain adapts, your sleep begins to recover, your liver regenerates, your gut repairs, your heart gets a break, inflammation starts to come down. Your hormones begin finding their rhythm again. None of that happens because your body is punishing you, right? It happens because your body has been fighting for you all along. Alcohol didn’t stop your body from wanting to heal. It just kept interrupting the process. And the beautiful thing is the moment you remove alcohol, your body gets back to doing what it’s always wanted to do heal. Now, I also want to make one really important distinction before we finish. Everything we talked about today is biology. Your body does this work automatically, but your emotional healing is different. Learning how to regulate your emotions without alcohol, building confidence, healing your relationships, setting boundaries, managing stress, working through trauma, learning who you are without alcohol, creating a life you don’t want to escape from. Those things don’t happen on a timeline. There isn’t a study that says 47 days in, your confidence comes back, or after six months, you’ll finally forgive yourself. Right. That part of recovery depends on something completely different. It depends on the work you’re willing to do. And honestly, I think this is a part that people miss. They quit drinking and start feeling physically better. And then they hit this point where they think, okay, now what? I’m sober, but I still feel stuck. I don’t know what I’m supposed to be working on. I don’t feel confident. My sobriety doesn’t feel solid. And if that’s where you are, I want you to know you’re not doing anything wrong. You’ve just reached the next stage of recovery. Your body’s been healing. Now it’s time to help the rest of you heal. Angela (38:41.068) And that’s exactly the work I love, right? It’s the work I’ve been doing with clients for years because quitting drinking isn’t the finish line, it’s the foundation. Once alcohol is out of the way, we get to build a life that actually feels good to live. A life where you have the tools to handle stress without reaching for a drink. A life where you trust yourself again, a life where sobriety doesn’t feel fragile. It feels like freedom. So if you’ve been sober for a while and you’re wondering what comes next, or your recovery feels a little uncertain and you want guidance, I would love to help. You can book a call to talk to me about working together and what that looks like. You can do that at addictionunlimited.com forward slash call. Angela (39:34.742) And if you’re still in those early days of sobriety, be patient with yourself. Healing is happening even when you can’t see it. Your body is doing what it was designed to do. Give it time, give it support, and most importantly, understand you are healing. And I’d love to talk to you if you’re ready to get to work and actually enjoy your sobriety. Addictionunlimited.com forward slash call. That link is always in the show notes. Addictionunlimited.com forward slash call. I love you guys. I hope you’re having a fantastic day and I will see you next week.

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“Honor your mind, body, and soul.” In this episode, Nick speaks with Melissa Coloton about her journey from farm life to corporate sales. They talk about high-pressure anxiety and burnout, as well as insights on self-awareness, purpose, and holistic well-being. What to listen for: Honoring yourself means recognizing and responding to your emotional, spiritual, physical, and mental needs. Self-awareness helps us catch patterns and make better decisions over time. Understanding that our mind, body, and soul are connected helps us to see life holistically and from various perspectives External influences and pressures can sometimes become ingrained in who we believe ourselves to be. “Support systems are vital for growth.” Growth is not entirely a solo mission; having the right support system can make a huge difference. Surrounding ourselves with the right people and right environments for us to thrive can take time to separate from the past, but it is always well worth the effort. Support systems can provide new perspectives and help you navigate challenges without burning yourself out. “We really focused on reconnecting with myself. It wasn’t like “you must stop having anxiety”. It was like “when you have anxiety, this is the connection point you have to have with yourself.” Managing anxiety is not about eliminating it, but about learning to navigate it. Self-awareness and self-connection are crucial for managing anxiety and other challenges. By focusing on connection and self-awareness, you can develop coping strategies that work for you. Embracing your emotions and experiences can help you build a stronger sense of self and increase your emotional intelligence. About Melissa Coloton Melissa is a Certified Life Coach and Sales Expert who helps businesses, sales professionals, and entrepreneurs create what she calls aligned success, where purpose, profit, and a fulfilling life all work together. With nearly 20 years of sales leadership experience spanning quota-carrying sales roles, strategy, and executive leadership, she has driven over $1 billion in new business and led high-performing teams to record-breaking growth, particularly in the life sciences sector. After facing burnout and health challenges at the height of her career, Melissa transitioned to a more sustainable model of success and now serves as a trusted strategic partner to people navigating growth, leadership pressure, and pivotal decisions. She is the creator of The Honor You Method, a framework that blends mindset, emotional capacity, and execution strategy to support high-level performance without sacrificing well-being, and the host of The Honor You Podcast, where she explores building success that truly feels as good as it looks. https://melissacoloton.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/melissa-coloton-coach/ https://www.instagram.com/melissa_coloton/ Resources: Check out other episodes about anxiety and burnout: Balancing Law And Spirit: Boundaries, Burnout, And Personal Growth With Cindy Rendon How To Handle And Successfully Navigate Career Burnout Easily Reduce Anxiety By Going Calm, Present And Connected Are you looking for ways to better manage your daily mindset, live a happier, more fulfilled life, and pursue the depths of your soul on your path to self-mastery? Schedule a free clarity session with Nick to see if mentoring is a good fit for you.Interested in starting your own podcast or need help with one you already have? Check out Nick's website for more information: https://nickmcgowan.com/ Interested in starting your own podcast or need help with one you already have? Check out Nick's website for more information: https://nickmcgowan.com/ Please subscribe on iTunes and give us a 5-Star review! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-mindset-and-self-mastery-show/id1604262089 Listen to other episodes here: https://themindsetandselfmasteryshow.com/ Watch Clips and highlights: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCk1tCM7KTe3hrq_-UAa6GHA Guest Inquiries right here: podcasts@themindsetandselfmasteryshow.com Thank you for listening! Your Friends at “The Mindset & Self-Mastery Show” Click Here To View The Episode Transcript Nick McGowan (00:01.462)Hello and welcome to the Mindset and Self Mastery Show. I’m your host, Nick McGowan. Today on the show we have Melissa Coloton. Melissa, how you doing today? Melissa Coloton (00:11.678)I’m good, Nick. How are you? Nick McGowan (00:13.442)I’m good. I’m good. I’m glad you’re here. we were just shooting the breeze talking about things podcasting and life and all of that. So I want to kind of continue the conversation, but why don’t you get us started? Tell us what you do for a living and what’s one thing most people don’t know about you that’s maybe a little odd or bizarre. Melissa Coloton (00:15.767)Me too. Melissa Coloton (00:30.584)Sure. So what I do for a living is I’m a certified life coach and sales expert and I combine those two things by helping people find success that really means something to them by putting purpose and profit together because one without the other will always make you kinda want more out of life. So I try to not be Pollyanna about purpose without profit and I try not to be too focused on profit because, you know, then if we get too into the weeds about that, then that’s all that matters to us and we forget what our purpose is. So that’s what I do. And I spent about twenty years in corporate sales. So that’s my background and always wanted to be a life coach since my late twenties. So finally, finally, finally started doing the thing and combined those two very bizarre things and put them together. So actually they’re not bizarre things on their own, but putting them together is a little bit odd. Nick McGowan (01:18.776)Mm-hmm. Melissa Coloton (01:23.96)And something that people would find odd about me, which I don’t know if it’s too odd, but I do think people are surprised when I say this, is I’m I’m in my blood, I’m a farm girl. So I grew up on a farm, my dad was a farmer, his dad was a farmer. So and I think people are surprised about that because, you know, I’ve spent a lot of time in corporate. So being very corporate y and wearing the jackets and all the things. And so when I say like I grew up basically in the middle of a field and ate dirt for for the most of my childhood, people are like, wow, surprising. So yep. I I I would say that I present this, you know, very polished person, but I really do enjoy, you know, a good old backwood bonfire and grew up partying in fields. So yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Nick McGowan (02:16.556)Nice. I I I like how you slowly kind of got into that and you were like, Yeah, we party a lot in fields. Like that was how it is. Whole lot. Melissa Coloton (02:22.552)And we partied a lot. Like we had to party on state land because well there was nowhere really to go, right? Like we there was nowhere to go. So we just would all get together in State Land fields. That’s what we did. Yeah. Nick McGowan (02:31.715)Yeah. Nick McGowan (02:37.87)Yeah. That’s cool. I mean, we all have I think we all have situations growing up that some people were a little bit more partiers. I’m trying to be real mindful of how I put this. Some people like partied hard in their like high school years and others didn’t. And then they partied too hard in their early 20s when it was legal to go drink or whatever, and then they got out of it. Some like just never get out of it and like belly up to the bar at 65 years old and it’s the same bar they’ve been bellying up to. but I think there are there’s some like. Melissa Coloton (02:53.068)Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Nick McGowan (03:10.606)Crazy moments that you can think back to, I’m sure. There definitely are for me that have to do with some of those parties that I can look back at now and go, holy shit. Like I saw how life could have changed drastically. And also I saw how I learned to kind of manage things in a sense. Like, how do you manage a whole group of 40 people around a bonfire out in the middle of nowhere? Or like the cops are coming. How do you let everybody know? Or whatever that looks like. Melissa Coloton (03:22.56)Mm. Melissa Coloton (03:39.754)Right. Yeah. Nick McGowan (03:41.4)But I I can appreciate coming from basically somewhere that’s not corporate at all, and then ending up in corporate. Cause I’ve seen that with people that I’ve worked with at times that were some of the best workers I’d ever worked with, and some of the almost like hard nosed people I’ve ever worked with. And I think that came from their background of being on their farm. Like you had chores that most city kids didn’t have and like tough things that you had to figure out and what do we do? So I’m sure that Melissa Coloton (04:03.776)Yeah. Nick McGowan (04:11.138)Did that help you, you think, when you got into not only corporate but sales? Melissa Coloton (04:15.306)Yeah. Yeah. I think it did a few things. Honestly, it definitely helped my work ethic. You know, I summers off were not a thing for me. I literally would hay it is what we called it, is basically get all the hay ready for the winter. And I remember me and my cousin, she was only a year older than me. We would fight about who would get the front of the wagon and who would get the back of the wagon. Because if you’re the back, you had to start throwing when eventually you’d had start throwing the bales of hay to the front for the person to put it on the elevator and go up and dump it into the hay mill. And we would fight about that like literally like one of us would try to like try to get to the back and or try to get to the front so they didn’t have to be the one throwing bales of hay. So I definitely feel like it helped my work ethic plus like seeing my dad work like that. You know, my dad he he had to do chores before he went to school when he was in high school. Nick McGowan (04:54.83)Mm-hmm. Nick McGowan (05:08.898)Mm-hmm. Melissa Coloton (05:08.94)You know, he would have to do chores and then he’d have to go do sports or whatever he did and come home and do more chores. So my dad, it wasn’t like he got that like childhood most people think of when they think of childhood. My my dad was worked with his dad. That’s what he did. And they found a way to make it fun. So I think that also helped me was like you can’t take yourself too seriously in an environment like that because shit hits the fan a lot. And if you lose your mind every time the shit hits the fan on a farm, like Nick McGowan (05:31.96)Yeah. Melissa Coloton (05:37.584)you’ll just go nuts. So I have a lot of stories from my my my dad and his aunt about how they grew up and and my grandfather and how crazy that all was. And they just have a lot of laughs about it because I really do think like you would go nuts. So I think that really helped my my work ethic in a really big way. I also feel like it it removed a lot of entitlement. And I’m not I’m not saying I don’t have any entitlement ’cause I think we all do to some degree. But I think it removed a lot of entitlement because Nick McGowan (06:00.814)Mm. Melissa Coloton (06:07.146)I didn’t really come into this world with all this money or like I wasn’t handed anything in my life. Like everything I did, I had to work really hard for. And so when you’re in sales, that serves you very well because you can then make things out of nothing. You know, I even in my sales career, I would get these territories and I’d be like, What the fuck? Like and and I’m like, and at first I was pissed about it, right? Like, why can’t I just get a main account or something like that? But I’m glad I didn’t. Because I learned the art of making something out of nothing, making money where there was no money ig in existence yet. Like I always say, like in sales, especially like the sales the sales professionals that are like, I want an ac I want an active account or I want to tear the territory that’s already bloomed. I’m like, you should actually not want that for especially your first couple go go rounds, because you will learn a skill set that nobody will ever take from you and nobody will ever actually teach you. You will not. You will not learn that in a book, you will not learn that in a podcast. You you have to just do it. And so, yeah, I see I think growing up on a farm helped me with those two things in a in a really big way. Nick McGowan (07:06.689)Yeah. Nick McGowan (07:15.896)My God, I could imagine that you were in a much better spot to be able to handle really tough situations or like calculations of moves, but also probably you experienced different things that other people didn’t, like trying to think from like the opposite perspective. Like I mainly grew up in a city or like right outside of a city. and I’ve always been around a lot of people. So being in a corporate environment, like all the chaos, all the people talking, like you know, those meetings where it’s like. Melissa Coloton (07:21.368)Mm-hmm. Melissa Coloton (07:39.608)Mm-hmm. Nick McGowan (07:45.77)One person should really be running it, but they’ve lost it. It’s off the rails at this point. Like everybody’s just jabbering about whatever the fucking thing is. And how do you pull that back? How do you not? Like, what’s your level of it? When does it not matter what your level is? And go, yo, you know, that sort of thing or whatever. but I I think that there’s stuff that we as people can really try to find the easiest way through. Like we’re seeing a lot of it with AI now. Everybody’s trying to write books and they’re trying to do all these things. Melissa Coloton (08:09.24)Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Nick McGowan (08:13.25)Because they just need to create and they need to do all this. When in all reality, what they’re really doing is saying, well, I have to make money. And I’m told that I have to do more. So I have to do more to make the money, but I don’t have enough time to do it. And I don’t really know what the fuck’s going on. And in sales without AI, we’ve experienced that stuff where you’re like, there’s a lot going on. There’s a lot of moving parts and pieces. And I don’t have enough in my pipeline. And but that’s just a small piece from a salesperson. And we all experience stuff like that. But you ended up getting to the point where you’ve done a lot, you work through, and yeah, you can look back now and go, I was really appreciative of having that. You weren’t then, because you typically aren’t, where you’re like, Are you fucking kidding me? Nobody’s here. This is nonsense. But when you learn and you work through it, you can see the silver lining of it. But that’s not always the case with getting burned out. So talk to us about not only the journey of like looking back at that and going, I can see where I’m starting to burn and where I was starting to smolder. Melissa Coloton (08:54.22)Yeah. Right. Melissa Coloton (09:03.734)Right. Melissa Coloton (09:11.032)Mm. Nick McGowan (09:12.642)But then also what that journey looked like. You shared a bit of that even before we started, of like taking it kind of category by category of our I’m gonna work through this, like the mind, body, soul, et cetera. So what did that look like for you? Melissa Coloton (09:23.649)Yeah. Yeah, you know, hindsight is wildly twenty twenty, right? so honestly, when it when when I would say my burn burning out or burnt outness started showing its ugly head, I I truly blamed it on life situations, how hard I had worked, like that kind of stuff. Cause at the time I also had a a friend that was dying of cancer. So it was life combined with work. And even up until I would say, even just recently, honestly, like I would say like literally probably within the last six to twelve months, this has come to me a little bit clearer. And that is it wasn’t necessarily how much I was working. Right. It it wasn’t necessarily even the work I was doing. It was the lens in which I was seeing it all. And that was being very performative, n really afraid to fail. Like really, really afraid to fail. And I say this with a huge grain of salt because I love my parents, but they my parents were very young when they had me. Sh my mom was 18 when she had me. She was 16 when she had my brother. And so they were like kids raising kids. And so I think my mom put on this suit of like My children are not gonna have the life that I had. They are gonna have a different life in me, which served me very, very, very well. Also, it created a monster in me that was like, you have to succeed, period. Like no matter what, you have to succeed and you cannot fail. And I and I often had these experiences with my mom where I’d like, I remember this one time I got a C in French. Like, French, like who fucking cares? Nick McGowan (11:19.835)Melissa Coloton (11:21.184)I’m not gonna move to Paris. Like, we’re okay. And she like just lost her shit on me. Like, just like, what the fuck are you? Like, she didn’t swear, but basically she was like, What the fuck are you doing? Like, if you can’t get better grades than this, you’re not gonna go to she always held sports over my head because I loved playing sports. So that was always one where she could really get me and to do whatever she wanted me to do. Cause I’d be like, my god, I need to go to sports. and so as I got older and I started working in these really Nick McGowan (11:27.405)Mm. Nick McGowan (11:35.864)Yeah. Nick McGowan (11:41.102)Mm-hmm. Melissa Coloton (11:50.251)immense pressure cookers. I mean, Nick, there were my biggest opportunity I ever had was over a hundred million dollars. And that was just in service fees. So together it was actually probably more like a $200 million deal. So I would get in these pressure situations and instead of being like, I got this, I’d be like, this has to come together. Like, and and it was more of like a lens I saw my work through than it was the actual work I was doing. Nick McGowan (12:01.41)Yeah. Nick McGowan (12:12.622)Yeah. Melissa Coloton (12:19.946)So I started getting these weird bursts of anxiety at very odd times, which is why I kind of shoved it aside. Cause it wasn’t like I would be in the middle of a meeting and be like, my God, I’m about to have a panic attack. It would be more like weirder times, like specifically when I was driving. Like when I would drive, I would get really anxious. And I was just like, that’s weird. And I just kept putting it off, kept putting it off, kept putting it off, kept putting it off. And then one day I couldn’t. Yeah. It was just I was driving on the way to work and Nick McGowan (12:31.874)Mm-hmm. Nick McGowan (12:43.758)Mm-hmm. Nick McGowan (12:47.661)Yeah. Melissa Coloton (12:49.954)complete meltdown. Like pulled off the highway, tried to get back on, pulled off the highway, tried to get back on. I couldn’t do it. Thank God at the time I was working for my boss was my friend. So I was able to call her and say, I don’t know the fuck’s wrong with me, but I cannot come to work today. And I was supposed to like, my team was coming into town. I was supposed to be leading meetings and all this stuff. She’s like, don’t worry about it. Go home. Get some rest. And I thought it would be a blip on the radar. I was like, I’d be fine tomorrow. Right. And I figured I could probably Nick McGowan (13:07.214)You can Nick McGowan (13:11.51)Mm. Nick McGowan (13:17.624)Yeah. Tomorrow, yeah. Melissa Coloton (13:19.768)Keep keep pushing it aside. I woke up the next day and had just anxiety, like just major chronic anxiety. Couldn’t drive, I couldn’t even drive a quarter. I don’t exaggerate this. And when it’s funny when people when I’ve told people this story afterwards, like people who know me really well, they’re like, they literally think I’m lying. And I’m like, no, I don’t think you understand. Like I could not get in my car and drive a quarter mile down the road without being like, I gotta, I gotta go home. I gotta go back home. So Nick McGowan (13:39.768)Mm. Melissa Coloton (13:48.077)That led to work with a a practitioner near where I live and he’s a life coach and an acupuncturist. And so I’ve I’ve been seeing him ever since that day, which has been, I think the summer will be eight years now. And yeah, and and we really focused on reconnection to myself. And when I did get it’s like he didn’t he wasn’t like you must stop having anxiety. It wasn’t it wasn’t like that. It was like when you have anxiety, this is Nick McGowan (14:02.478)Nice. Nick McGowan (14:12.76)Yeah. Melissa Coloton (14:17.356)the connecting point you have to have with yourself because I didn’t, right? It was like, it was very much like a keep it moving. And anything I felt in my body or anything that I anything that I felt anywhere, it was like, no, I ain’t got time for this shit. And I even remember going into his office being like, the fuck, like this I I just don’t have time for this. Like I I leg legitimately remember thinking that. Like and then I remember sitting in his office for the first time, him telling me that I don’t have a relationship with myself. Nick McGowan (14:24.685)Mm-hmm. Nick McGowan (14:37.375)Mm. Melissa Coloton (14:46.678)And I’m like, excuse me. Like I I just thought I was one of the most authentic people and all this stuff. So it took some took some work to even understand what was really going on with myself. And so that led to a lot of connection with self, a lot of soul work, what’s really in my heart. When I do have anxiety, what does that mean? What do I need to console? How do I need to function in that experience? And actually welcoming anxiety, because I believe that like when you have these feelings. It’s your soul being like, Hey, I need some attention here. Like, what about me? And so I was just playing the game of like, I don’t care about you. I’m gonna keep it moving. So that was a lot of our work in the beginning. And then when that got really, really solid, I was like, but actually there’s mind, body, and soul here. And so now I’m really in a big era of f fo focusing. a lot on my mind because I can really see now because I meditate a lot more now and I can really see the thoughts that I I come up with on a fairly regular basis. And I can see the through line and I can see the thread. And then I can take that and command my mind to think a different thought. And then it becomes a belief and then I’m just at a better place, generally speaking. So yeah, and then the body is just kind of more the obvious one I would say, you know, I’m very keen on taking care of my body and Nick McGowan (16:01.069)Mm-hmm. Melissa Coloton (16:09.514)not drinking like god awful amount of caffeine just to get through the day and stay focused and like you know like because that’s what I was doing for a while there. so I hope that kind of paints a picture of what I experienced. It was not pretty and there was a lot to it and there were very dark days. I remember I never thought this before and I only actually told one person this when it was happening. And not even my husband, I told my best friend I was like if in if I Nick McGowan (16:13.43)Ha ha ha. Melissa Coloton (16:40.17)If I’m gonna feel like this for the rest of my life, like I actually don’t think I wanna live like this. And and it wasn’t necessarily a a true like thought of you know what, but it was the start of one for sure. Cause I was like, I don’t wanna live like this. Like, this isn’t living. That’s how terrible I felt on a regular basis. So, you know, I definitely went on anti-anxiety medication. I was told I had major depressive disorder. When they said that to me, I was like, Nick McGowan (16:43.928)Yeah. Melissa Coloton (17:07.296)What did you just say to me? Like it was still like, what the fuck are you talking? What what are any of you people talking about? So it really took me a while to not be in denial. And then when I wasn’t and it was finally like a okay, I will okay, yeah, I get this. Like this is where I’m at and this is what I’m gonna have as I have to deal with this. So yeah, I’m really thankful for my practitioner and all my friends and all my family and everybody I worked with was amazing at the time, thank God. Nick McGowan (17:08.632)Mm. Melissa Coloton (17:37.541)my my boss didn’t tell anybody, you know, like people didn’t really know that I was that I was in that state of being when I was at work and I still was able to to get through, but it took a while and then I finally came off anti anxiety medicine and went back on them one time and that was at the height of my executive and and again I I kinda got to that place of I hope nobody figures out I’m an idiot or you know, I have to be perfect or Nick McGowan (17:37.901)Mm-hmm. Melissa Coloton (18:06.038)You know, what if I don’t meet my target? Like there’s just a again, it was in that pressure cooker moment. And I was just like, I’m gonna like move all these things aside and pretend they’re not there. So I kind of did a solid two rounds of that. The second round wasn’t nearly as bad as the first because I had the tools, but there was definitely elements of that s that same initial experience again. It just wasn’t as bad as the first time because I think I had tools, but it eventually got me to the place where I was like. Okay, something for real needs to give. Like this is not sustainable for me. This is not what I’m supposed to be doing. I think the second round I was a little bit more in that thought process of like, I’ve tried to make this work in corporate. I’m just forcing it at this point. So Nick McGowan (18:39.638)Mm. Nick McGowan (18:52.984)I think that’s critical. Like we, as people, can look at things that we’re told to do. Like you need to go to college, you need to go to school, you need to get married, you need to have kids, you need this, you need that, blah, blah, blah. And those things change with every generation. Like even our parents that were like, You’re gonna have a better life than I did. So I’m gonna do things. And it’s like everything you’re gonna do, you’re still gonna fuck up your kid somehow, because you’re gonna say something weird or something’s gonna happen, they’re gonna interpret it weird or whatever. They’re just different human. Melissa Coloton (19:05.005)Yeah. Melissa Coloton (19:16.512)Yeah. Yeah. Nick McGowan (19:20.312)But we take all these things and we think we have to be a certain way, especially from a from a corporate perspective, not even corporate, from somebody who works in larger organizations with a team of people and a lot of people counting on you from different departments, not just from sales, but production needs things from you. They need you to bring in sales, like all the different stuff that goes along with it, where we can get so stuck thinking it’s all on me, it’s all this, it’s all whatever it is. And that’s Melissa Coloton (19:34.221)Yeah. Melissa Coloton (19:39.948)Yeah. Nick McGowan (19:48.568)typically never ever the actual problem. I find that there’s a lot of times where it’s a misalignment problem where we’re not aligned with what we’re doing, but we don’t want to fucking have that conversation with ourselves to be able to do that. Biggest thing that you pointed out was you did work and then you did more work and then you did more work after that. And now you’re still doing a lot of work. So big moral of the story is keep doing the work because those things will start to clear up. Like the spot you’re in Melissa Coloton (20:01.4)Correct. Right. Melissa Coloton (20:10.68)Hundred percent. Yeah. Nick McGowan (20:17.666)With whatever you’re at, just like the people that are listening that are like, well, I’m in a spot right now with either my company or the company I work for. And really in the back of their minds, they’re like, what the fuck? How do I change? What, what do I even where where do I start? What what happens? Like, what’s the first thing I look at? It I think about it like you know, those junk drawers or even a junky closet that everybody has. Like if you really want to clean that thing out, you have to take everything out. And then you have to audit it. Melissa Coloton (20:44.202)Mm-hmm. Yep. Nick McGowan (20:46.018)And that’s such a fucking project. And no one wants to do it with their junctur, let alone themselves. But they get to the point where they’re like, I can’t not. I have to because I can’t anymore. I don’t want to be here. Wait, if I don’t want to be here, what else does that look like? And then things start to crumble a bit. I think the big thing that you’re saying with doing the work is that there’s consistent work that needs to happen, but then there’s also clarity that comes with that that opens up other doors. Melissa Coloton (20:48.332)Yeah. No. Right. Right. Nick McGowan (21:13.442)Like I see things at times where it’s like I open one door and there’s forty more. And I open another door and there’s four thousand more. And I’m like, fuck, should I turn around? Cause there were less doors this way. Like, what what’s going on here? It’s because of that self awareness. yeah. Yeah. And you’re like, where do I pull that thing from? Melissa Coloton (21:22.408)Yeah. It’s like Jenga, right? Call this one out. What’s about to happen? Nick McGowan (21:31.534)And that that’s a really good point. I think a lot of people live in a Django-like state and they don’t really know it. And anything could crack them. I think it’s on us to be able to be self-aware enough to see like, hey, there’s something there. But it can still like it even gets the best of all of us, no matter how much work we’ve done. It’s how quickly you can kind of snap back in a sense and go, you know, I see what I did there for future next problem. Let’s do something a little different. So looking back at that stuff, because here we are in a podcast where this is easy to talk about. But this is also, I think about it as like a lab sort of situation where we go, cool. If we do the work now, by the time you get in that situation, even if you think back and go, those two fucking people were talking about this thing, I remember this. Here’s what they said. Like that’s the point of like, how do we do work now? So that when we’re in that spot, we go, you know what, I’ve been here before. Let me do something a little differently, or at least catch where we’re off. And what I mean by that is like mindset wise. Melissa Coloton (22:14.496)Yeah. Right. Melissa Coloton (22:26.848)Mm. Mm-hmm. Nick McGowan (22:29.772)I’ve been in situations where my mindset was, I’m going to not fuck this up. I’m going to do the best situation I can. I’m going to do whatever I can, like I’ve learned some things, and I think too hard about it. I’m too mindset with it because I’m so dead set on just like seeing the thing through instead of understanding context and the situation. And I had something years ago where I literally reacted to my partner at the time. She said something and I reacted and like felt my Melissa Coloton (22:42.22)Mm-hmm. Nick McGowan (22:58.786)being split where I was like, yo, dude, don’t you say another fucking word. And I could literally hear myself go, shut up and get the fuck out of the house. And I was like, and one more thing. And it was like, motherfucker. Because like it’s already out there and you can’t do anything. But even that level of self-awareness to go, shit. All right, I did that. So what do I do differently this time? The work has to keep adding up. So now that you’re able to look back at that stuff and say, look, I’ve done a lot of this work. I keep doing work for somebody who’s in Melissa Coloton (23:00.288)Mm. Mm. Melissa Coloton (23:08.93)Yeah. no. Nick McGowan (23:28.128)a a spot either in their own business or something that where they’re managing like you did where you’re like there’s this and there’s that. I don’t want people to find out that I don’t really know what the fuck’s going on. Like what what sort of things did you figure out that worked for you because your energy that would align with them and might be in a similar spot where, hey, I need to do this sort of thing from a mechanism standpoint of like breathing or standing out of my energy or whatever to then get to the point where I can actually do something about my mind. So like what did that look like for you? Melissa Coloton (23:49.676)Mm-hmm. Melissa Coloton (23:56.417)Yeah. Yeah. Well, not to be too prescriptive, but the way I describe my, I guess, set of tools, if you will, is is honoring yourself. And that’s a really big perspective I have now in POV of looking at situations and life as a whole. And that just means, you know, recognizing, respecting, and responding to your emotional, spiritual, physical, and mental needs the best you can. Right. And just Nick McGowan (24:09.324)Mm. Mm-hmm. Melissa Coloton (24:24.888)external circumstances or societal norms or, you know, anything that might pull you away from really truly hearing all those things about yourself and knowing what it is you really want. And too many people, especially now, because we’re getting super influenced by mega externals. Like before it was probably just our parents and maybe our school and maybe our friends. And now it’s The whole world is influencing you in a really big way. And may and maybe T V. Like we had what, a couple of channels, right? And commercials, sure, whatever. But like I know, I think I kinda am though. I kinda am. You know, I’m I’m definitely of the age where you had to sprint to the bathroom or get some new snacks before the the commercial was over. My brother would be like, It’s pretty Nick McGowan (24:51.181)Mm-hmm. Nick McGowan (24:55.916)We’re not that old. Calm down. We had to get up and actually hit the switch and like the rabbit ears. Nick McGowan (25:10.434)yeah. Same, I get that. Well before TiVo. Yeah. Melissa Coloton (25:18.22)But but yeah, I think there’s just, you know, there’s a lot of influence. And so how do you understand what you truly want, what you truly need? How do you recognize that? How do you respect it? And I say respect because, you know, a lot of people do the mindset work where they’re like, Shut up, mind. Well, that’s not respectful to your mind, right? Like, why are you treating a major part of who you are disrespectfully? Not saying I never do it, but that’s not the way to go. Like, that’s not going to leverage. your mind, your body, and your soul to get what you want out of life and perform at a really high level if that’s what you want and whatever you’re doing. Cause when I say perform at a high level, I don’t mean like you’re some CEO or something. I mean this can be parenting. This can be being a friend. This can be, you know, picking up a new hobby and just enjoying it. And so that’s my POV on it all. And I really I’ve really thought a lot about this ’cause I wanted to try to containerize what I experienced so other people might use it as a tool. And there’s a lot more layers to that. When I say honor yourself, there’s a lot of layers to that because there’s a lot of layers to your mind and your body and your soul and your emotions and how to deal with all of that. but that’s a that’s effectively the way I look at it. And, you know, a lot of people spend their time focusing on, you know, what’s my purpose? What’s my purpose? And within the honor you thought process, my my definition of that is fulfilling your soul’s desires. And that can mean You want to start baking cakes because that’s fun to you. And that can mean also that maybe you ha wanna have start a family. That can also mean you wanna be in marketing, right? So so many people are focused on purpose with regard to thinking one thing and one thing only in life. And it’s like no wonder we’re driving ourselves bonkers with this, right? So I think if I were to offer anything to your listeners, I would say that. start thinking about what does honoring yourself mean to you specifically and know that purpose is not just one thing. It’s fulfilling your soul’s desire. So your job in life is to figure out what does your soul actually want at any given point and having like giving yourself the permission to make make changes around that if that if that is appropriate for you at the time. And knowing that when you are having anxiety or stress symptoms is what I like to call them too is when there’s when you’re experiencing things. Melissa Coloton (27:40.065)It’s not to be ignored. It’s actu it’s actually to be recognized, respected, and responded to in an appropriate way so that you don’t find yourself waking up one day and be like, How did I get here? And you know, I call it the ants marching syndrome or like, you know, going down the river syndrome, right? You just jump on a raft and you get told what to do to your point earlier. You get told go to college, get married, have children, stay for retirement, retire and die. Like gross. Yeah. Like what are we even doing? Nick McGowan (28:06.316)No thanks. Melissa Coloton (28:09.344)And a lot of people are going check, check, check, check, check. And then they get to a point where they’re like, What am I actually doing right now? Like I’m not very happy. So then, of course, what ends up happening is everybody starts reaching externally and trying to figure out where the happiness is for them. And that looks better on some people than others. You know, it’s like some people get really fucked up trying to do that because they’ll reach for drugs or alcohol or a whole like plethora of things that don’t serve them. So Nick McGowan (28:37.25)Hmm. Yeah. Melissa Coloton (28:38.508)Yeah, it’s a really long-winded way, but that’s that’s my POV now because I didn’t do any of those things before. I just I I was on the river of life and it was working really well for me because I was making good money. I had you know, just kept going up in the in the ladder, right? That’s what I’m supposed to do. And then before you know it, I was not happy. I had tons of stress symptoms, and I did that twice. The first time being a lot worse than the second time because the first time I didn’t have any of these tools. At least the second time it was like, shoot, here I am again, completely dishonoring myself, doing things that are not what I desire. And I’m just doing it for the money effectively, or to kind of show I could do it or prove a point or not fuck up. Like it wasn’t it wasn’t out of pure joy, I’ll tell you that. So Nick McGowan (29:25.464)Mm-hmm. Nick McGowan (29:30.956)Yeah. Most things that we do aren’t out of pure joy because we feel we have to do certain things, etc. I think you brought up a really good point. I’m glad you bring this up. In fact, I appreciate when anybody brings up the word purpose because we can all look at purpose differently. It’s wild to me when people think that there’s one purpose. Like this is the one thing you’re here to do. And I’ve I’ve learned that that’s not the case, that it’s more so contextual based on the time, where we’re at, like. Melissa Coloton (29:34.837)Yeah. Melissa Coloton (29:51.808)Worst. Nick McGowan (29:59.458)You and I have podcasts 40 years ago. If we were born in the 50s or 60s, we wouldn’t have had a podcast because it didn’t, it wasn’t a thing at that point, but it would have shown up differently. So us being able to take how we show up in the world, what our flavor is, and what we bring to just being authentically us is the most important component of that. But it’s hard for us to get through those layers at times. Melissa Coloton (30:08.585)Right. Right. Melissa Coloton (30:22.519)Mm. Nick McGowan (30:25.996)Like everything that you’re saying, it’s like there’s a deeper foundational layer to it. Even of like, well, I’m doing this because I want to look better, or I’m doing this because I want to do that. Like there’s a level of self awareness to that. And also, what the fuck? Why? Why, why are you doing in that sort of way? And what are you trying to get out of it? I I’ve I get really worried for some people at times when they get stuck in those loops, because you’ve seen stuff like when you’re a Melissa Coloton (30:39.423)Ha ha ha. Melissa Coloton (30:44.802)Mm-hmm. Nick McGowan (30:53.142)And I don’t wanna say ahead or above or anything. You’re just at a different level of your own journey where you can look and go, man, I see you’re gonna drive directly into a wall. I wanna help you. But if you don’t want any help, then fucking at least put your buckle on, like, just see, please, like, please don’t die. but I do think it’s important for us to understand what our purpose looks like through the work that we do. So think about what you’ve done in sales. You’ve learned a lot from sales. Melissa Coloton (31:03.231)Yeah. Melissa Coloton (31:07.479)Right. Melissa Coloton (31:10.838)Right. Mm. Melissa Coloton (31:16.29)Mm-hmm. Nick McGowan (31:22.798)You learned a lot from the farms, learned a lot from what your parents did, what they didn’t do, all these things. And that all ties into work that you do now. But you needed to go through and experience all those things so you can go, hold on, time out. I need to look at this differently. What do I do? How do I get past this, et cetera? And how do I actually do this work? If you were just to tell somebody, hey, you need to do these 400 things that I did, your list was probably 40 times that. But like that, even that list, they’d be like, no, hell no. I don’t want any parts of that. Do you think I can just throw it into Claude and Claude will fix it for me? Or you think I can have AI do a thing for me or whatever? Because there’s a deeper foundational layer to that of us all trying to do more instead of understanding there’s systems at play that are telling us we’re not enough instead of going, well, what am I here for? What do I actually need to do on this planet? So for the people that are on their own path towards self-mastery, what advice do you give them to show up and be them on this planet? Melissa Coloton (32:10.53)Right. Right. Melissa Coloton (32:19.498)Yeah. I I would say don’t outsource. I know you really triggered me when you just said that. Cause so many Yeah, really like it really is like people and but you know, and I would say that anyway, probably because we we even if right before AI, even before AI, we’re outsourcing to the external. We’re really outsourcing to what are people gonna think and Nick McGowan (32:26.798)I didn’t mean to set you up for that one. Melissa Coloton (32:47.998)what if I do this or what if I don’t do that? And some of some people external, you know, look for the external to fix their emotions instead of just feeling them, right? Or trying to cover them up. So there’s it’s the you know, it’s the tale of of time, right? It’s just like something we’ve always done and we probably will always continue to do. And it’s just getting in a different context now. So I would say like, you know, don’t don’t outsource your Nick McGowan (32:55.501)Mm-hmm. Melissa Coloton (33:15.818)life and don’t outsource help having something external help you figure out what it is that you love and what it is that you enjoy. And I always say emotions, your excuse me, your soul speaks in emotions. And if we can really not just intellectualize that, but truly understand that, then we’ll start paying attention a lot more. Like, boy, that made me feel real shitty when that person talked to me that way. Okay, what’s that about? Nick McGowan (33:40.034)Mm-hmm. Melissa Coloton (33:43.051)Is it really cause the person that talked to me that shitty or is it because like I’m grew up with my mom talking to like that and it just triggers the fuck out of me because it might trigger me, but not you, right? Or like there’s been times where I’ve come home and told my husband, like, Can you believe blah blah blah? And he’s like, not really seeing and like Nick McGowan (34:00.82)Yeah, I can’t no. Yeah. Melissa Coloton (34:02.942)You better agree with me. So I I really think that an ability to not outsource things in your life that are so important, which are the things that matter, which are your purpose essentially. Like not to be cliche or too esoteric about it, but pay attention to where you’re at, you know, pay attention to your thoughts. I mean meditate. I like Nick McGowan (34:18.284)Mm-hmm. Melissa Coloton (34:30.752)On my podcast not long ago, I like literally yelled at people. I was just like, If if you’re too busy to meditate, like the fuck are you even talking about? Like if you sit in a line to pick your kids up for twenty, thirty minutes, like close your eyes for a second and just like focus and see what see what you’re like, watch your thoughts, see what happens. You know, like people are just so busy. There’s like, I can’t have I can’t find time for that. No, you actually can’t sit with yourself for more than 10 minutes without picking up your phone or like watching a TV. Like Nick McGowan (34:56.034)Mm-hmm. Melissa Coloton (34:58.232)Pay attention to that. Like that means something. So yeah, I mean I I just think we’re widely outsourcing and w it’s getting probably worse before it’s getting better, unfortunately. but I just think it’s a different version of it now than it probably was however many hundreds of years ago. So, yeah, I would say don’t outsource and you know, on the tail end of that I would say like don’t sit in your shit and then complain about it being stinky either. Right? There’s a time and a place to to to mourn things or to be upset about things or to f really feel things and and experience them one hundred percent from an emotional standpoint. But it’s gotta go through the cycle. We can’t get stuck in part of the cycle, right? I always I always talk about like things are very cyclical as as it relates to nature. And if you get stuck in winter, you get stuck in spring. You like you just can’t do that. You have to keep it moving and let it go through this whole cycle. And yeah, don’t complain if You’re sitting in your shit constantly and and you’re c you’re like saying, why does it stink all the time? It’s like, Well, because you just sit there and you’re shit Nick McGowan (36:01.198)Look at it. Yeah. I think it’s a good point too to point out that it you shouldn’t outsource everything. We actually need to do more of our own work on our own to figure out what parts of it and all. And also that doesn’t take away from reaching out to other people or specifically having practitioners or different modalities that you go through to be able to help you with those things because we can’t just mindset our way through it. Melissa Coloton (36:12.917)Yeah. Melissa Coloton (36:25.217)Yeah. Nick McGowan (36:27.65)We can’t just think about those things and we can’t say like it’s going to be okay. There are different times you have to do work. As you know, you do that work. But being able to take from that to say that those things that we keep coming up against that keep rubbing us a weird way or making us feel some sort of way, that’s the crux moment where I think it can be easiest to just go, well, that sucks. I don’t like the thing. And then the run away instead of being like, this keeps coming back. So what do I do with it? Melissa Coloton (36:28.064)Right. Melissa Coloton (36:35.362)Mm-hmm. Yeah. Melissa Coloton (36:47.436)Mm-hmm. Melissa Coloton (36:51.778)Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Right. Nick McGowan (36:55.96)Because then that’s really the start. Like you may have to talk to somebody. You may just have to sit by yourself for a few minutes to go, well, what the fuck? What is the thing? But you’re still going to need to go through that process to do it. and it helps us uncover what our purpose is through that to go, I don’t want to do this. I want to do more of that. And really when I wake up, I really want to do these things. But I’m in this spot now. So how the fuck do I get there? Melissa Coloton (37:02.636)Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Nick McGowan (37:18.744)Great, that’s the next part of your journey instead of being like, well, that shit sucks and stinks. And everybody, welcome. I’m Linus. You know, like it doesn’t make sense. Melissa Coloton (37:27.158)Yeah. And I mean, I’m certified life coach, so one hundred percent I I think people need to get the support. And I would say even in that scenario, right, you can’t get addicted to getting everything you need. You know, if that if you are talking to someone and they’re not giving you tools to slowly but surely like, you know, when I first started seeing my life coach and acupunctures, it was every week. Nick McGowan (37:41.88)Yeah. Melissa Coloton (37:53.933)Then it went down to every two weeks and then it went down to every month. And now it’s mostly monthly, but I ca you know, I can definitely skip months now. Whereas before it was like, God, right? So one hundred percent and that’s kind of what I mean by like sitting in your own shit too. Like if if you’re stuck somewhere and you just can’t find your way out of that, I mean, there was literally no way I was gonna get out of my situation with anxiety by myself. I mean, right, like I even I Nick McGowan (38:20.216)Mm-hmm. Melissa Coloton (38:22.38)Went to a doctor, had medication, tried to see a counselor. She was awful, no offense, but she was. So I finally landed where I landed with my life coach and acupuncturist. I wouldn’t have been able to do that solely by myself. And he didn’t tell me what to do every second of every day. He taught me how to live with myself and connect with myself. And I took that very seriously. And for a while I intellectualized it because I think we all do that, right? I’m a very like, I get it. I get it. Nick McGowan (38:49.698)You have to. Melissa Coloton (38:52.332)But then there’s gotta be, there’s gotta be a component of embodying it and actually really truly doing that that work and not just being like, I get it. Cause what ends up happening is like you’ll be okay, I get it, I get it. And then the slightest little change in the breeze will knock you over. And now you’re just right back to where you were, right? So that’s where I was for a good while. I’m like, I get it, I get it, I got this. Like I can do this, ’cause that’s how I’ve been my whole life, right? Like, tell me I’ll do something, I’ll fucking do it. You only gotta tell me once. Nick McGowan (38:56.962)Mm. Nick McGowan (39:11.544)Yeah. Melissa Coloton (39:22.096)And and and but then when with that situation I did that and then like the slightest little thing would happen and I’d be kind of right back to square one, you know, it’s like monopolies like or whatever one of those board games where you have to go all the way back to the beginning all the time. So so after a while it was like, wait, this is what I’ve been doing my whole life is intellectualizing it and not actually truly connecting with my soul. So one hundred percent agree with you. There Nick McGowan (39:37.208)Yeah. Melissa Coloton (39:49.931)that’s why people exist is to help each other in my mind, you know, in some way, shape or form. And so find that good practitioner that you can trust and won’t just let you, you know, wallow in your own shit and just have you keep coming back every week with no changes. You know, if that’s the case, then there’s probably a different practitioner for you. Nick McGowan (40:10.529)That’s yeah, that’s a friend at that point. Like you should stop paying them and just hang out with them if that’s what you want to do. but you’re you’re right, it’s it’s all on us. and being open to those resources, I think is really the driver of what I think about. Like going, all right, well, I’m aware of this thing. What the fuck’s near me, what’s around me? And then actually going through the layers of how do I talk to that person or what do I do? Blah, blah, blah. But being able to ask those from the initial question of what’s going on inside is going to help you. so I appreciate you getting into that, especially getting into purpose work. That’s Melissa Coloton (40:13.432)Right. Melissa Coloton (40:22.555)yeah. Melissa Coloton (40:36.76)Mm-hmm. Nick McGowan (40:40.172)Always important on the show. So thank you so much for being with us today. Before I let you go, where can people find you and where can they connect? Melissa Coloton (40:41.496)Mm-hmm. Melissa Coloton (40:48.128)Yeah, the best the best place is my website, which is just melissacoloton.com. I also host a podcast myself called the Honor You Podcast. I love it when people go check that out, of course. Those are probably two the two of the best places, and that’ll direct you to all the socials and all that fun stuff. Yeah. Awesome. Nick McGowan (41:05.23)Cool. And I’ll have all that stuff in the show notes. Again, thank you so much for being on the call today. Melissa Coloton (41:10.018)Thanks for having me, Nick. It was a great conversation. https://youtu.be/gp_zfh3dOHQ

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Hundred up for us - a new player for Everton! Hayden Hackney is on his way after the Blues reached an agreement for an initial £16m deal. How will he fit in with Everton? And what does this mean for the future of Idrissa Gueye, Tim Iroegbunam and more? We also look at the rumours linking David Moyes with the vacant Scotland job. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

County cricket. This is long overdue. If we wanted to do this properly, the was really only one place to start, so I'm delighted to welcome Colin Graves to the show. Colin has held positions at the top of international and domestic cricket as Chair of the ECB and Yorkshire, a role he was re-elected to in 2024 as the club faces some of the biggest decisions in its storied history.The stark reality is that county cricket needs to make more money, attract more fans, produce more content, open itself to new investment. The problem is that there are issues at both a macro and micro level that stop much of that from happening. Private vs member ownership, calendar positioning, fiscal management; how do counties create a business that does more than just survive. This is a compelling take from a man who knows what he's talking about, and recognises this is highly emotive to many of you who will be listening. I look forward to hearing your thoughts. We're delighted to welcome Colin to the Business of SportA huge thank you to our amazing partners on the show: AirwallexThe intelligent financial platform for global businesses⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.airwallex.com/uk/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠GeminiWe empower the most confident sports organisations on Earth⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://geminisports.ai/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you're interested in partnering with the show, please reach out to us at⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠bos@20vc.com

Jessica is back from a week at AFA Nationals in St. George watching Gabby's softball team battle through four games in 102-degree heat (and a home run!), while Kelly's son Wes had his own big weekend in Chicago — also with a home run of his own. The sisters dig into the realities of travel ball season, why some kids start losing interest in the sports they grew up playing, and whether kids today need "real jobs" or if summer chores and creative challenges do the trick. Plus: how Jessica used Claude to build a custom writing workbook for her son who hates writing, summer reading picks (hello, Lord of the Flies), and a full true-crime detour into Netflix's The Crash that gets spicy fast. In This Episode, We Talk About: Surviving four softball games in one day at 102 degrees (and Gabby's clutch home run) Wes's home run weekend at a massive Chicago tournament Why some kids start pulling away from sports they once loved The "should teens have summer jobs" debate — sports vs. work ethic Turning summer into "worker season": chores, reading, and creative projects A flag football carpool experiment in independence (yes, public buses were involved) Using Claude AI to build a custom 60-page writing workbook for a reluctant writer Prepping for honors math placement and tackling Lord of the Flies before fall A deep dive into Netflix's The Crash — the parents, the prosecution, and all the theories A tease for their next true-crime watch, Maternal Instinct Getting nostalgic over Off Campus and what it brings up about their own college years What they're reading this summer (hi, The Bollywood Bride) Shows & Documentaries Mentioned: The Crash (Netflix, 2021) Mean Girl Murders (Hulu) Maternal Instinct Off Campus Books Mentioned: The Bollywood Bride Lord of the Flies by William Golding Connect With Us:

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Friday Bible Study (6/12/26) // Rebuilding the Wall // 3 Then Eliashib the high priest rose up with his brothers the priests, and they built the Sheep Gate. They consecrated it and set its doors. They consecrated it as far as the Tower of the Hundred, as far as the Tower of Hananel. 2 And next to him the men of Jericho built. And next to them[a] Zaccur the son of Imri built.3 The sons of Hassenaah built the Fish Gate. They laid its beams and set its doors, its bolts, and its bars. 4 And next to them Meremoth the son of Uriah, son of Hakkoz repaired. And next to them Meshullam the son of Berechiah, son of Meshezabel repaired. And next to them Zadok the son of Baana repaired. 5 And next to them the Tekoites repaired, but their nobles would not stoop to serve their Lord.[b]6 Joiada the son of Paseah and Meshullam the son of Besodeiah repaired the Gate of Yeshanah.[c] They laid its beams and set its doors, its bolts, and its bars. 7 And next to them repaired Melatiah the Gibeonite and Jadon the Meronothite, the men of Gibeon and of Mizpah, the seat of the governor of the province Beyond the River. 8 Next to them Uzziel the son of Harhaiah, goldsmiths, repaired. Next to him Hananiah, one of the perfumers, repaired, and they restored Jerusalem as far as the Broad Wall. 9 Next to them Rephaiah the son of Hur, ruler of half the district of[d] Jerusalem, repaired. 10 Next to them Jedaiah the son of Harumaph repaired opposite his house. And next to him Hattush the son of Hashabneiah repaired. 11 Malchijah the son of Harim and Hasshub the son of Pahath-moab repaired another section and the Tower of the Ovens. 12 Next to him Shallum the son of Hallohesh, ruler of half the district of Jerusalem, repaired, he and his daughters.13 Hanun and the inhabitants of Zanoah repaired the Valley Gate. They rebuilt it and set its doors, its bolts, and its bars, and repaired a thousand cubits[e] of the wall, as far as the Dung Gate.14 Malchijah the son of Rechab, ruler of the district of Beth-haccherem, repaired the Dung Gate. He rebuilt it and set its doors, its bolts, and its bars.15 And Shallum the son of Col-hozeh, ruler of the district of Mizpah, repaired the Fountain Gate. He rebuilt it and covered it and set its doors, its bolts, and its bars. And he built the wall of the Pool of Shelah of the king's garden, as far as the stairs that go down from the city of David. 16 After him Nehemiah the son of Azbuk, ruler of half the district of Beth-zur, repaired to a point opposite the tombs of David, as far as the artificial pool, and as far as the house of the mighty men. 17 After him the Levites repaired: Rehum the son of Bani. Next to him Hashabiah, ruler of half the district of Keilah, repaired for his district. 18 After him their brothers repaired: Bavvai the son of Henadad, ruler of half the district of Keilah. 19 Next to him Ezer the son of Jeshua, ruler of Mizpah, repaired another section opposite the ascent to the armory at the buttress.[f] 20 After him Baruch the son of Zabbai repaired[g] another section from the buttress to the door of the house of Eliashib the high priest. 21 After him Meremoth the son of Uriah, son of Hakkoz#Nehemiah #BookOfNehemiah #BibleStudy #BibleExplained #Bible #BiblicalStudies #BibleTeacher #WordOfGod #BiblicalLessons #BibleJournal #BibleReading #BibleStudyNotes #biblestudycommunity #ChicagoChurch #BibleVerse

Bangladesh created history by securing their first-ever ODI series victory over Australia, winning the recent three-match contest 2-1. The reigning world champions found themselves on the wrong side of the record books and have now lost four of their last five ODI series. Nikesh Rughani, Jim Maxwell and Sunil Gupta discuss if Australia can fix their problems ahead next year's Cricket World Cup.The influence of the new ownership groups in the Hundred is already being felt, with team rebrands as the competition heads into its sixth season. We hear from MI London's' Nathan Sowter, who has become a short-format specialist, about how the tournament is evolving and what fans can expect this year.Plus, It was a memorable weekend in the England's Dorset League as former Sri Lanka captain Kumar Sangakkara turned out for his local club and smashed a match winning 168 from just 117 balls. We speak to one of his teammates, who tells Stumped he was “coaching” the legendary left-hander through the innings.Photo: Bangladesh's players celebrate after the dismissal of Australia's Marnus Labuschagne during the first one-day international (ODI) cricket match between Bangladesh and Australia at the Sher-e-Bangla National Cricket Stadium in Dhaka. (Credit: AFP via Getty Images)

Vasquez has an idea. V has a nightmare. Vincula has fun. Note: So sorry for the late episode! The season finale will be released on the first Thursday of July. Afterwards, production on Season 4 will become, and the saga of The 100 Hundred will come to a close! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Are you teaching Pilates — or just choreography you borrowed from someone who borrowed it from someone else? In this solo episode of The Pilates Lounge Podcast, host Katie Crane gets honest about one of the most important conversations happening in the Pilates industry right now: the erosion of lineage. Katie shares why learning from the source matters more than ever, what it truly means to earn the title of "master," and why the shortcut is always the long way around. In This Episode, We Discuss Why Pilates has a lineage — not a trend — and what that means for your teaching The problem with teacher training programs that aren't connected to Joseph and Clara Pilates What the word "master" actually means, and why most people are using it too soon The guild model of mastery — apprentice, journeyman, masterpiece — and how it applies to Pilates education Why foundation work like footwork is never something you graduate from The role of repetition and deliberate practice in becoming a truly excellent educator How to choose a mentor, teacher trainer, or course with your eyes open Why filling your own creative cup is essential to sustaining a long career in Pilates Key Takeaways ✨ Get as close to the source as possible Jay Grimes, who trained directly with Joseph and Clara Pilates, said it best: Pilates has a lineage, not a trend. If you're learning this craft, trace the thread back to the source and choose your lineage deliberately — not by default. ✨ Nice is not the same as qualified Just because an educator was kind, encouraging, and gave you a certificate doesn't mean they were the best person to teach you Pilates. Kind is not the same as competent. Helpful is not the same as correct. ✨ The foundation is not something you graduate from The masters Katie admires most are still doing footwork, still refining the Hundred, still finding new depth in the most basic work. The foundation is the thing you return to for the rest of your career — not the thing you rush through to get to the advanced repertoire. ✨ Mastery takes time — and that's the point Whether it's Don Bradman hitting a cricket ball against a corrugated iron water tank or Leonardo da Vinci grinding pigments as a teenager, the path to mastery has always been the same: repetition, patience, humility, and years of deliberate practice. The shortcut is always the long way around. About Katie Crane Katie Crane is the host of The Pilates Lounge Podcast and a Pilates educator based in Darwin, Australia. With over 21 years of teaching experience and four Pilates diplomas totalling more than 2,800 hours of study, Katie is passionate about protecting the lineage of Pilates and developing the next generation of skilled, grounded Pilates professionals. She runs her own studio, teacher training program, and The Pilates Professional — an online platform for Pilates educators. Resources Mentioned Jay Grimes — first-generation student of Joseph and Clara Pilates; quoted on Pilates lineage Don Bradman — Australian cricket legend; referenced as an example of mastery through repetition Malcolm Gladwell — author who popularised the 10,000-hour rule (drawing on Anders Ericsson's research) Anders Ericsson — researcher into expert performance and deliberate practice Romana Kryzanowska — first-generation Pilates elder; known for instructing students to "do it again" Polestar Pilates — training organisation referenced by Katie (founder: Brent Anderson) Pilates Association of Australia — industry body for certified Pilates professionals in Australia PMA (Pilates Method Alliance) — industry body in the United States The Pilates Professional — Katie's online platform: www.thepilatesprofessional.com.au Pilates Pro Academy — Katie's teacher training program; mentioned at the end of the episode Listen & Subscribe Listen to The Pilates Lounge Podcast on your favourite podcast platform. Continue the Conversation in The Pilates Muse Join the conversation here: https://www.thepilatesprofessional.com.au/the-pilates-muse-publication Prefer to Watch? This episode is also available on YouTube. About The Pilates Lounge The Pilates Lounge is a space for Pilates professionals, movement educators, and curious learners to explore meaningful conversations around movement, teaching, health, and the evolving Pilates industry.  

The £295million sale of London Spirit franchise was one of the big sports business stories of the last year. Some of Silicon Valley's most successful and famous leaders buying 49% of The Hundred's Lord's based franchise, in partnership with The MCC, one of the most storied names in cricket.So what is the MCC today, and how is that changing in one of the most important years in the great ground's history? In this episode, Richard Gillis is joined by Katie Maier, Chief Marketing Officer at MCC, and Ellie Roach, Senior Consultant at InCrowd, to ask that question directly. The conversation moves through the central tension of the brand — a 200-year-old members' club, still 97% male, now sitting alongside a 51% stake in The Hundred, a property built on the language of inclusion. Who is an MCC digital follower? What does the MCC look like from India? What's the thesis behind the Silicon Valley investmentWe go in to, the data-led case for not chasing vanity metrics in overseas markets, and a content strategy built on six pillars that runs well beyond the cricket itself. The episode lands just weeks before the most significant summer in the ground's history for women's cricket: the first ever women's Test at Lord's, alongside the Women's T20 World Cup final, fifty years after the first women's international was played there.Unofficial Partner is the leading podcast for the business of sport. A mix of entertaining and thought provoking conversations with a who's who of the global industry. To join our community of listeners, sign up to the weekly UP Newsletter and follow us on Twitter and TikTok at @UnofficialPartnerWe publish two podcasts each week, on Tuesday and Friday. These are deep conversations with smart people from inside and outside sport. Our entire back catalogue of 500 sports business conversations are available free of charge here. Each pod is available by searching for ‘Unofficial Partner' on Apple, Spotify and every podcast app. If you're interested in collaborating with Unofficial Partner to create one-off podcasts or series and live events, you can reach us via the website.

Join us as we welcome P.J. Kohn to discuss Keeping and Breeding Hundred Flower Rat Snakes.Follow: Zac Loughman https://www.instagram.com/dr_crawdad/On FB https://www.facebook.com/zac.loughmanClint Bartley @ IG: MetazoticsLLC Website: metazotics.com Patreon: https://patreon.com/ColubridandColubroidRadioDiscord: dicord.gg/ccradioExo-terra https://exo-terra.com https://linktr.ee/exoterrausa MPR Network FB: https://www.facebook.com/MoreliaPythonRadioIG: https://www.instagram.com/morelia_python_radio/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@mprnetwork5623Swag store: https://teespring.com/stores/mprnetwork ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Send us Fan MailThis is not a victory lap. This is a stone in the ground.In this milestone 100th full episode of The Dangerous Man Podcast, Rory and Matt talk through and remember where TDMP started, celebrate what God has done, and cast vision for the next hundred battles.This episode is built around three questions:Where have we come from?What has God done?Where are we going?Along the way, Rory and Matt talk through the early days of TDMP, the burden behind the mission, the men who helped carry it, the latest podcast reach markers, and the future vision for moving men from listeners to leaders.This one gets personal too, with Rory and Matt interviewing each other about purpose, growth, conviction, and where God is still forging them.The first hundred episodes were never about building a podcast.They were about building men.Support the showTDMP SITE: https://dangerousmanpodcast.com/NEW HERE: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6edYYGXup6pimDwU1kGnsSGrab some DANGEROUS GEAR in our shop https://dangerousmanpodcast.com/shop/Support the show for as little as $3 a month https://www.buzzsprout.com/2080275/supporters/newFollow us on X for more shenanigans https://twitter.com/TDMPodcast603Follow us on Instagram for extra shenanigans https://www.instagram.com/thedangerousmanpodcast/Connect with Matt Fortin & Rory LawrenceEmail us at: thedangerousmanpodcast@gmail.comRemember men... Stop trying & start training!

Dan and Rusty are investigating the circumstances behind a huge life insurance policy. It involves a wealthy and distraught Mrs. Holbrook. Did she kill her husband? Why was his body…

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Dan and Rusty are investigating the circumstances behind a huge life insurance policy. It involves a wealthy and distraught Mrs. Holbrook. Did she kill her husband? Why was his body…

One of the greatest figures in WA cricket, Adam Voges, joins Corbin this week to talk about the next chapter in his coaching journey and reflect on their recent dominance. Voges opens up on why he departed the state job but wanted to remain the Scorchers coach, where he thinks Cam Green's future lies in the Aussie test team, which of the WA youngsters will step up and how new coach Beau Casson differs from him.With stints in Major League Cricket at the Seattle Orcas and The Hundred's Trent Rockets coming up, Voges outlines his intent to focus on T20 coaching and his aspirations for the future to prepare for international jobs that may come his way.To get in touch, email Corbin & Ed at abccricketpodcast@abc.net.auABC Grandstand cricket commentator Corbin Middlemas is joined by Ed Cowan to bring you all the highlights and match analysis to keep you up to speed. The pair discuss the key players and big issues that are dominating the cricket agenda, the latest in live fixtures with a hit of cricket banter.Catch every episode of ‘The ABC Cricket Podcast,' hosted by Corbin Middlemas on ABC listen or wherever you get your podcasts, and get in touch with them on social media via @abc_sport This podcast was formerly known as ‘The Grandstand Cricket Podcast'

I've been reviewing music and following the careers of male seiyuu for 16 years, and over time, I've noticed some seiyuu going from being a disaster as singers to becoming some of the best singers we now have in the industry.In this episode, inspired by regular viewer M L, let's talk about some of the male seiyuu who have improved a lot over time and what could be behind those improvements.This is the first of several episodes covering male seiyuu who have improved their singing skills over time.

Friday Bible Study (5/22/26) // Rebuilding the Wall // 3 Then Eliashib the high priest rose up with his brothers the priests, and they built the Sheep Gate. They consecrated it and set its doors. They consecrated it as far as the Tower of the Hundred, as far as the Tower of Hananel. 2 And next to him the men of Jericho built. And next to them[a] Zaccur the son of Imri built.3 The sons of Hassenaah built the Fish Gate. They laid its beams and set its doors, its bolts, and its bars. 4 And next to them Meremoth the son of Uriah, son of Hakkoz repaired. And next to them Meshullam the son of Berechiah, son of Meshezabel repaired. And next to them Zadok the son of Baana repaired. 5 And next to them the Tekoites repaired, but their nobles would not stoop to serve their Lord.[b]6 Joiada the son of Paseah and Meshullam the son of Besodeiah repaired the Gate of Yeshanah.[c] They laid its beams and set its doors, its bolts, and its bars. 7 And next to them repaired Melatiah the Gibeonite and Jadon the Meronothite, the men of Gibeon and of Mizpah, the seat of the governor of the province Beyond the River. 8 Next to them Uzziel the son of Harhaiah, goldsmiths, repaired. Next to him Hananiah, one of the perfumers, repaired, and they restored Jerusalem as far as the Broad Wall. 9 Next to them Rephaiah the son of Hur, ruler of half the district of[d] Jerusalem, repaired. 10 Next to them Jedaiah the son of Harumaph repaired opposite his house. And next to him Hattush the son of Hashabneiah repaired. 11 Malchijah the son of Harim and Hasshub the son of Pahath-moab repaired another section and the Tower of the Ovens. 12 Next to him Shallum the son of Hallohesh, ruler of half the district of Jerusalem, repaired, he and his daughters.13 Hanun and the inhabitants of Zanoah repaired the Valley Gate. They rebuilt it and set its doors, its bolts, and its bars, and repaired a thousand cubits[e] of the wall, as far as the Dung Gate.14 Malchijah the son of Rechab, ruler of the district of Beth-haccherem, repaired the Dung Gate. He rebuilt it and set its doors, its bolts, and its bars.15 And Shallum the son of Col-hozeh, ruler of the district of Mizpah, repaired the Fountain Gate. He rebuilt it and covered it and set its doors, its bolts, and its bars. And he built the wall of the Pool of Shelah of the king's garden, as far as the stairs that go down from the city of David. 16 After him Nehemiah the son of Azbuk, ruler of half the district of Beth-zur, repaired to a point opposite the tombs of David, as far as the artificial pool, and as far as the house of the mighty men. 17 After him the Levites repaired: Rehum the son of Bani. Next to him Hashabiah, ruler of half the district of Keilah, repaired for his district. 18 After him their brothers repaired: Bavvai the son of Henadad, ruler of half the district of Keilah. 19 Next to him Ezer the son of Jeshua, ruler of Mizpah, repaired another section opposite the ascent to the armory at the buttress.[f] 20 After him Baruch the son of Zabbai repaired[g] another section from the buttress to the door of the house of Eliashib the high priest. 21 After him Meremoth the son of Uriah, son of Hakkoz

Send us Fan MailAl Petrie, Founder and Senior Partner of Al Petrie Advisors and organizer of the Louisiana Energy Conference, joins host Tim Gerdeman and WTR natural resources analysts Richard Tullis and Jeff Robertson for a post-event recap of the 2026 LEC. The conversation covers key themes across all three days, including Gulf of America E&P activity and the return of offshore enthusiasm, U.S. onshore producers watching the futures curve before committing capital, and a forward-looking third day focused on LNG export buildout, carbon capture, AI-driven data center power demand, and energy infrastructure. Petrie also walks through what record attendance of 550 registrants and 50-plus sponsors signals about where industry confidence stands heading into the second half of 2026, and shares early themes shaping the 2027 edition. 

Cam, Lawrence and Phil look ahead to the start of the English Test summer – with input from New Zealand star Rachin Ravindra  – ahead of the first Test at Lord's, and review everything else that's been going on in the world of cricket. 0:00 Intro/ 1:18 Kia UK / 2:07 England / 13:04 New Zealand / 18:11 Rachin Ravindra interview / 39:23 Keith Prowse / 42:21 ICC changes / 54:25 Win Kia's Best Seats in the House / 55:01 The Hundred / 59:14 T20 Blast / 1:02:05 Big Bash / 1:03:14 IPL / 1:07:52 Other cricket / 1:09:52 Test drive Kia's EV2 / 1:10:19 Outro KIA UK

In our last episode, I told you the stories of Elena Jacobs and Teresa Krause. How their bodies were found on Del Rey beach, 7 months after they disappeared from the Tongue Point Job Corps location, and that no one has been held responsible for their deaths. In this episode, I'll still be focused on Del Rey Beach, but jumping ahead to 1988. That was when 15-year-old Dorene Raterman disappeared after going on a bike ride. Someone was held responsible, but was he the only responsible party?The Oregonian June 29 1988 Seaside suspect hunted (PHOTO) - Dorene's Yearbook - Findagrave.com Dorene Marie Raterman - Seaside Signal March 29 1984- Artistic Advice - Seaside Signal June 21 1984- Seaside Kids, Inc. baseball 1984 - Seaside Signal Feb 21 1985- Good citizenship award - Seaside Signal Jan 30 1986 - Other scores… - Seaside Signal Feb 6 1986- Other Scores… - Seaside Signal Feb 20 1986 Other Scores… - Seaside Signal Jan 22 1987 Broadway's Brightest - Seaside Signal April 7 1988 Sports notes - Almond Eastman Obituary (1935 - 2004) - Clatskanie, OR - The Daily News - The Oregonian June 17 1988 Northwest Digest - The Oregonian June 17 1988 - Gearhart girl, 15, vanishes; officials fear foul play - The Daily Astorian June 17 1988 Search widens for teenager who vanished - The Bulletin June 19 1988 Gearhart girl still missing - The Daily Astorian June 20 1988 Leads sparse in search for teen - Albany Democrat-Herald Gerhart Teen Still Missing - The oregonian June 24 1988 'Whoever's got her, please let her go' - The Observer June 28 1988 Astoria man implicated in disappearance - Longview Daily News June 29 1988 Man arrested, charged with killing Oregon girl - Tri-City Herald July 12 1988 Hundreds of residents search for missing Oregon teenager - The Daily Astorian July 26 1988 Cause of Raterman's death uncertain - Seaside Signal Aug 4 1988- Hundred throng to pay last respects for Raterman - Albany Democrat Herald June 30 1988 - Colunteers continue search for girl's body - The Daily Astorian Nov 23 1990 - Penalty phase of Futch's trial opens Monday - JOSH MARQUIS: - Oregon's Death Penalty - The Oregonian July 26 1991 - Figure in teen's murder gets 5-year prison term - Seaside Signal Aug. 1 1991 Eastman meted five years - The Oregonian June 27 1995 - Prospect of a free Mullins shocks victim's parentsOur Sponsors:* Check out Kensington Publishing: https://www.kensingtonbooks.comAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

Welcome to the 100th episode of Talk Spirit To Me.One. Hundred. Episodes.A full century of conversations, spirit stories, big feelings, weird signs, deep healing, unhinged questions, and the kind of chats that make you feel less alone in being human.And honestly? We could not think of a more perfect guest to mark this milestone.This week, Jess welcomes the incredible Rosie Rees.Rosie Rees (she/her) is an activist for internalized freedom, a groundbreaking sex toy creator, sex educator, and pleasure pioneer whose very existence is a catalyst to a leg-shaking awakening of your own.Her work moves beyond “normalizing” the existence of women and their bodies; it is a full-blown revolutionary act that dismantles the structures that have women convinced their bodies aren't their greatest allies, pleasure isn't their birthright, and the pinnacle of their evolution is how small and quiet they can be.Rosie is the founder of Yoni Pleasure Palace, The Naked Awakening (Women's Nude Yoga), and one of Australia's leading Sex and Relationship Coaches. Her work started with her own awakening and continues to have a ripple effect of viral proportions, actively creating the world we have been waiting for.In this episode, Jess and Rosie dive into permission, pleasure, shame, self-expression, embodiment, relationships, awakening, and what it means to stop outsourcing your worth and finally listen to the wisdom of your own body.This is not just an episode about sex.It is an episode about coming back to yourself.It is about taking up space.It is about remembering that your body is not something to fix, punish, hide, or apologies for.It is about the permission you have been waiting for even though, deep down, it was always yours.Thank you for being here for 100 episodes of Talk Spirit To Me. Whether you have been here from the beginning or you've just found us, we bloody love having you in this weird, wonderful little spirit family.If you would like to connect with Rosie, you can follow her on IG @rosie.reesIf you like this sh*t, come hang with us on Instagram:@jessicalynnemediumship & @talkspirittomepodcastWant a Psychic Medium Reading?Book one HERE.Please note: we do not own the rights to this music; jellyfish - Tokiwave トキ波 @RFM_NCM

Why is George so pessimistic about the future of red ball cricket? Is there anything the non-Hundred hosting counties can do to survive? How big a mess is the Blast schedule and what can be done about that? Is 7000 at Lord's for the derby a worrying sign of things to come? Why have England gone in with two openers who bat at three and a number three who hasn't played and who might be injured anyway? Who did Harmy's son face in the nets this week? And don't forget ROTA WATCH!Instagram: @talkSPORT_cricketTwitter: @cricket_ts @fulhamjon @harmy611 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@talkSPORTCricketEmail: cricket@talksport.co.ukHosts: Jon Norman, Steve Harmison, George Dobell & Nick FriendExec Producer: Jon Norman Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this video, Chris and Gerry take a deep dive into the classic The Twilight Zone episode "A Hundred Yards Over the Rom." We explore the story of Christian Horn, a wagon train leader who mysteriously crosses into the future while searching for medicine to save his dying son. We'll discuss the episode's powerful themes of hope, destin, survival, and time travel, along with the emotional performance by Cliff Robertson and the unforgettable storytelling of Rod Serling. We also examine the episode's ending, production background, and why it remains one of the most heartfelt episodes of the original series. If you're a fan of classic television, science fiction, vintage horror, and thoughtful storytelling, this episode is a must-watch. Topics covered include: Episode plot breakdown Christian Horn character analysis Time travel themes in The Twilight Zone Rod Serling's message and social commentary The emotional ending explained Production trivia and behind-the-scenes facts Why the episode still resonates today Be sure to like, comment, and subscribe for more classic horror and sci-fi discussions.

This week's show gets loose as we discuss the latest, greatest games, such as TerraTech Legion, Call of the Elder Gods, and, uh, Candy Box, plus Sony's retreat from PC releases, Embracer attempting to correctly leverage Red Faction and Deus Ex, how to display your childhood consoles, what to do when a skunk-laden dog breaches the house, and more.CHAPTERS(00:00:00) NOTE: Some timecodes may be inaccurate for versions other than the ad-free Patreon version due to dynamic ad insertions. Please use caution if skipping around to avoid spoilers. Thanks for listening.(00:00:10) Intro(00:01:00) That feeling you have? We're the sane ones!(00:06:05) My dog stinks and now my house stinks(00:18:10) Call of the Sea  |  [Xbox One, Xbox Series X|S, PC (Microsoft Windows)]  |  Dec 08, 2020(00:19:17) Call of the Elder Gods  |  [Nintendo Switch 2, PC (Microsoft Windows), PlayStation 5, Xbox Series X|S, Nintendo Switch]  |  May 12, 2026(00:23:29) TerraTech Legion  |  [PC (Microsoft Windows), Xbox Series X|S]  |  Apr 30, 2026(00:33:00) First Break(00:35:49) Saros  |  [PlayStation 5]  |  Apr 30, 2026(00:36:06) [SPOILERS] Just a general warning as we talk about what's in the game(00:48:19) Directive 8020  |  [PC (Microsoft Windows), PlayStation 5, Xbox Series X|S]  |  May 12, 2026(00:51:27) Mixtape  |  [Nintendo Switch 2, PC (Microsoft Windows), PlayStation 5, Xbox Series X|S]  |  May 07, 2026(00:51:59) Forbidden Solitaire  |  [PC (Microsoft Windows)]  |  Apr 30, 2026(00:53:26) Retro Rewind: Video Store Simulator  |  [PC (Microsoft Windows)]  |  Mar 17, 2026(00:57:04) Candy Box  |  [Web browser]  |  Apr 30, 2013(01:06:57) Second Break(01:06:58) Sony confirms single-player games will be not be on PC(01:16:41) Hasbro cancels D&D game(01:23:56) Fortnite returns to Apple platforms(01:28:27) Embracer wants to activate your favorite old franchise!(01:41:13) Vampire Survivors gets an official genre on Steam(01:46:40) Go play Red Faction(01:48:07) Emails(02:13:07) Wrapping up and thanks(02:17:17) Mysterious Benefactor(02:22:08) See ya!

Listen and subscribe at Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube or wherever you listen to podcasts!What does it mean to follow Jesus in a world built on systems of oppression? Ken sits down with the prophetic Sarah Augustine - author, scholar, activist and co-founder of the Coalition to Dismantle the Doctrine of Discovery. We talk about Jesus' mic-drop moment, we talk about divesting from systems of death, we talk about a one-hundred-year organizing strategy and lots more. This one is challenging - especially for those of us who are comfortable and privileged. It's never easy hearing from a prophet. A Reparative Justice Resource from the Coalition to Dismantle the Doctrine of DiscoveryHearts Exchanged - foundational learning series over 8 months with monthly online discussions. This starts in the Fall every year but you can sign up first)Connect to the Canadian chapter of the Coalition by emailing scottmortonninomiya@mcco.ca 

Nvidia reports after the bell, but our portfolio manager sees better opportunities in semis.  Wall Street readying for both SpaceX and OpenAI to file for IPOs this week. Plus, why the Fed may have to hike rates by at least 100 basis points.  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Lara Acosta joins James Smith for a no-holds-barred conversation about LinkedIn, the corporate world, and what it really takes to build a personal brand that actually moves the needle. A LinkedIn growth expert and founder who's helped thousands of professionals turn themselves into trusted authorities, Lara breaks down why most people are doing LinkedIn wrong — and why the platform isn't the problem, corporate is.

FAN MAIL--We would love YOUR feedback--Send us a Text MessageThis is a video and audio podcast:   video hereThe loudest take on the U.S. China summit was that it went nowhere. We see something else: a negotiation structure being built in real time, with the next high-stakes round already scheduled in Washington just 90 days out. Using Michael Pillsbury's The Hundred-Year Marathon as our guide, we break down what matters beneath the ceremony and why patience, timelines, and leverage decide more than headlines.We start with the overlooked signal: Trump doesn't travel with only diplomats, he brings business power. Nvidia, Apple, and Tesla are not props, they represent AI chip constraints, supply chain exposure, and major foreign investment inside China. When CEOs are part of the trip, “trade talks” become a live map of technology controls, market access, and capital flows. That changes how you should read every public line about jets, tariffs, and “stalemates.”Then we walk through Beijing's pre-summit red lines and the chips that remain unspent: the unresolved Taiwan arms package, Iran sanctions relief floated but not signed, and a human rights flashpoint placed on the global record with the name Jimmy Lai. The biggest story, though, is September. A compressed timeline forces decisions, limits delay tactics, and raises the value of every card both sides are holding.Finally, we get to the twist Pillsbury couldn't fully account for in 2015: oil and energy pressure. If sanctions enforcement tightens supply routes and China's growth machine needs fuel, how does that reshape U.S. negotiating leverage, Iran's survival calculus, and the price of a deal?Key Points from the Episode:• framing the Beijing meeting as an opening move, not an ending  • bringing Nvidia, Apple, and Tesla as real economic leverage  • why AI chips, supply chains, and foreign investment shape diplomacy  • putting Jimmy Lai on the record as a strategic signal  • testing China's “four red lines” without spending key chips  • keeping the Taiwan arms package unresolved as leverage  • floating Iran sanctions relief without signing anything  • why a 90-day timeline shifts bargaining power  • the oil constraint Pillsbury could not predict, and what it means for China and Iran  • the closing question: spend the sanctions chip or hold it   Be sure to check out our show page at teammojoacademy.com, where we have everything we discussed in this podcast as well as other great resources.

On Stumped this week with Alison Mitchell, Jim Maxwell and Charu Sharma we discuss if IPL investment could be coming to the Big Bash League? It's an issue that has divided cricket in Australia, but Charu feels Indian investors may not jump at the chance of buying a stake in a franchise.What's the point of one-off Test matches? We debate the pros and cons of short series after former Sri Lanka captain Angelo Mathews blasted the potential idea of one-off Tests in the next series of the World Test Championship.And we hear from Brazil pacer Laura Cardoso, who stunned the cricket world with record-breaking T20 international figures of 9 for 4, the best ever in the format. Remarkably, Cardoso says she had no idea she'd made history.Photo: The Scorchers celebrate with the trophy after victory in the Men's Big Bash League Final match between the Perth Scorchers and the Brisbane Heat at Optus Stadium on February 04, 2023 in Perth, Australia. (Credit: Cricket Australia via Getty Images)

Special discounts up for AIE Melbourne (LS discount) and AIE World's Fair (group discounts up to 25% - CFPs still open for Autoresearch and Vertical AI) Cya there!Abridge did not start as an “GPT wrapper”. It was founded in 2018, years before the Cambrian explosion of AI application layer companies. OpenAI launched ChatGPT publicly on November 30, 2022 and by then, Abridge had already spent years doing the unglamorous work of building trust for one of the highest context, most important workflows in healthcare: the conversation between a patient and a clinician.Abridge's original wedge was clinical documentation. Listen to the visit, generate the note, reduce the clerical burden, and let clinicians spend more time with patients instead of the EHR. By focusing on how doctors actually document, how health systems actually buy, how EHR integration actually works, how clinicians verify outputs, and how missing context during a visit turns into downstream friction across billing, prior authorization, quality, and follow-up, the adoption of LLMs became a force multiplier on a workflow already optimized for sensitive context gathering.The company has scaled fast: Abridge says it is projected to support 80M+ patient-clinician conversations this year across 250 large and complex U.S. health systems, with support for 28+ languages and 50+ specialties. It raised $300M at a $5.3B valuation in June 2025, after a $250M round earlier that year.Today, Janie Lee and Chaitanya “Chai” Asawa of Abridge join us for another crossover pod with Redpoint's Jacob Effron (who is on the board of Abridge) to dive into how Abridge is building the clinical intelligence layer for healthcare starting with ambient documentation, then expanding into clinical decision support, prior authorization, payer/provider/pharma workflows, and eventually real-time agents that act before, during, and after the patient conversation. We go inside the product, data, infra, evals, workflow, privacy, and org design choices behind bringing AI into one of the highest-stakes enterprise environments from 100M+ medical conversations and specialty-specific evals to real-time alerts, EHR integration, de-identification, clinician-scientist teams, and why healthcare may solve some of the hardest AI problems first.We discuss:* Why Abridge started with clinical documentation, “pajama time,” and saving clinicians 10–20 hours a week* The transition from ambient scribe to clinical intelligence layer: save time, save money, and save lives* Why conversations between patients and clinicians may be the most important workflow in healthcare (patient visit summary feature)* Chai's “healthcare-coded Glean” framing: context is king, but healthcare raises the stakes on safety, evals, and rollout* Why Abridge wants AI to feel like “air conditioning”: always in the background, but only interrupting when it truly matters* The prior authorization example: turning a denied MRI weeks later into real-time guidance while the patient is still in the room* Why payer policies, EHR data, medical literature, and hospital-specific guidelines make the problem hard, and also create the moat* How Abridge thinks about ambient form factors: mobile, desktop, in-room devices, nursing workflows, multimodality, and future AR* The multi-sided healthcare customer: CMIOs, CFOs, CIOs, clinicians, patients, payers, and pharma* The hardest AI problem at Abridge: high-quality, low-latency, low-cost real-time support in a high-stakes clinical setting* When Abridge uses frontier models vs proprietary models, and why its unique data from medical conversations matters* Why “every agent is a coding agent underneath,” and how the EHR can be thought of as a filesystem for healthcare agents* How Abridge approaches personalization across individual doctors, specialties, and health systems* Why “AI slop” is AI without context, and how edits, memories, and clinician preferences create a data flywheel* Abridge's eval stack: LFDs, LLM judges, in-house clinicians, third-party evaluators, specialty-specific evals, and progressive rollout* HIPAA, PHI, de-identification, one-way anonymization, customer contracts, and learning from healthcare data safely* What changes when you operate at 100M+ conversations: reliability, cost, post-training, model routing, and infrastructure optimization* Why the same clinical conversation can serve doctors, patients, payers, pharma, and future clinical-trial workflows* How Abridge works with EHRs, and why deep interoperability is table stakes for clinician adoption* Why healthcare AI has regulatory tailwinds, why 80/20 does not work here, and why high-stakes domains may drive AI forward* Why Abridge embeds “clinician scientists” into product and eval teams* What Chai learned from Glean about search, quality, and durable AI infrastructure* Why the future of AI infra may look like context layers, event-driven systems, Kafka, Temporal, sockets, CRDTs, and tools built for humans* Why Janie changed her mind on “PRDs are dead,” and why crisp written clarity matters more in complex AI products* How Abridge uses Claude Code, Cursor, and coding agents internallyAbridge:* Website: https://www.abridge.com/* X: https://x.com/AbridgeHQJanie Lee:* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/janiejleeChaitanya “Chai” Asawa:* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/casawaTimestamps00:00:00 Introduction and what Abridge does00:02:05 From ambient documentation to clinical intelligence00:04:04 Clinical decision support and context as king00:06:57 Alert fatigue, proactive intelligence, and prior authorization00:12:36 Ambient AI form factors and healthcare customers00:16:59 The hardest AI problems in healthcare00:18:26 Frontier models, proprietary data, and model strategy00:21:07 The EHR as a filesystem for agents00:24:03 Personalization, memory, and clinician preferences00:30:40 Evals, LLM judges, and progressive rollout00:36:47 HIPAA, de-identification, and privacy00:39:21 100M conversations and operating at scale00:44:10 EHR integration and the clinical intelligence layer00:46:39 Healthcare regulation, latency, and high-stakes AI00:50:11 Clinician scientists and long-tail quality00:53:04 Lessons from Glean and durable AI infrastructure00:57:03 The future of agentic healthcare workflows00:57:34 PRDs, product clarity, and building serious AI products01:03:11 AI coding tools at Abridge01:04:06 OutroTranscriptIntroduction: Abridge, Clinical Intelligence, and the Latent Space x Unsupervised Learning CrossoverSwyx [00:00:00]: Okay. This is a special crossover Latent Space Unsupervised Learning pod.Jacob [00:00:07]: Very excited to do this.Jacob [00:00:08]: At this point, we get together once a year.Swyx [00:00:10]: Once a yearJacob [00:00:11]: And this is a fun occasion to get to do it on.Swyx [00:00:13]: I really wanted to talk to Abridge but I felt very underqualified because healthcare is not something we cover very intensely. It just so happens that Redpoint's our big investors and supporters of Abridge.Jacob [00:00:27]: Anytime you want to have a portfolio company on your podcastJacob [00:00:29]: Please, by all means.Swyx [00:00:31]: So we'll introduce our guests. Chai and Janie, welcome to the pod.Janie [00:00:34]: Thanks for having us.Chai [00:00:35]: Thank you.Janie [00:00:35]: We're excited to be here.Chai [00:00:36]: Thank you.Swyx [00:00:36]: So for listeners, what do you guys do, just to situate you guys in the company?Janie [00:00:42]: Abridge is a clinical intelligence layer for health systems. We really started with documentation and building for clinicians and as we think about reducing the burden that clinicians have, they're spending 10 to 20 hours a week on documentation. There's a massive doctor shortage in the country. We also think that conversations between patients and clinicians are probably the most important workflow in healthcare. It's where care is given and received but if you think about the 20% of our GDP that goes towards healthcare, almost everything is a derivative of that conversation, whether it's the claim, the payment, the actual diagnosis given, the treatment. And we've started with a conversation to reduce the burden for doctors on documentation but we're really excited about the path ahead as we become this broader clinical intelligence layer.Chai [00:01:34]: I'm Chai. I work on clinical decision support at Abridge.Swyx [00:01:37]: Yes.Chai [00:01:37]: And so as Janie said, we're uniquely situated where we started off with the clinical note. What I'm really excited about and where we're expanding towards is what are all the things you can do before the conversation, during the conversation and after the conversation if you did have access to all the context about patients, payer guidelines, medical literature and put that together and to serve, how healthcare could look fundamentally different.Swyx [00:02:01]: And that's the context engine that you guys have?Chai [00:02:04]: Yes.Swyx [00:02:04]: Is that what it's called? Okay.Swyx [00:02:05]: So historically, as I understand it, the company started in 2018. A lot of people would be familiar with the AI voice notes form factor that doctors would be “Well, do you consent to being recorded?” It replaces handwriting and what have you. But it sounds like more recently there's been a big transition in the company. Tell me about the broader transition.From Documentation to Clinical Intelligence: Save Time, Save Money, Save LivesJanie [00:02:26]: So from a transition perspective, we really think about our journey as The first act was: how do we help save time? And that's where a lot of that original product was.Swyx [00:02:37]: By the way, one of those interesting statsSwyx [00:02:39]: On your landing page was, doctors spend time after hours.Janie [00:02:43]: They call it pajama time.Swyx [00:02:44]: Why is that pajama time?Janie [00:02:46]: Doctors after work in their pajamasSwyx [00:02:48]: In their pajamas. OhJanie [00:02:49]: At home are just writing and catching up on their notes every day.Janie [00:02:53]: Some of our favorite customer love stories, we have a Slack channel called Love Stories. We have clinicians telling us, “Abridge has helped us, from retiring early or we're now finally able toJanie [00:03:06]: go home and eat dinner with our kids for the first time.”Chai [00:03:08]: Save the marriage in some cases.Swyx [00:03:10]: One of the quotes was “We're not divorcing anymore.”Swyx [00:03:12]: I'm asking, “Why?”Swyx [00:03:14]: Because they're working too much.Janie [00:03:16]: But, in terms of where we're going and where we're expanding, we really think about our second and third acts around how do we help health systems save and make more money. Health systems are operating with record-low operating margins. It's getting harder and harder to serve patients and they have regulatory, some tailwinds but also a lot of headwinds coming their way and AI is ripe for helping on the saving and make-more-money piece. And then ultimately, how do we help save lives? The fact that our software and our product is open millions of times a week before, during and after a patient walks in the room, gives us massive opportunity with products like clinical decision support, which Chai is building but so many others to improve patient outcomes and probably one of the most important workflows and problems to be going after right now.From Glean to Healthcare: Context Is KingJacob [00:04:04]: One thing that's interesting, Chai, is you came over to Abridge from Glean and clinical decision support, which for our listeners is, in the context of a visit, helping a doctor figure out the right type of care. It's really a search problem in many ways, going through lots of different data sources. Very analogous to your previous role as one of the earliest engineers over at Glean. I'm sure a lot of our listeners are curious what's similar about the problems that you're going after now and what feels different, now that you're in healthcare.Chai [00:04:33]: Very similar. Taking a step back, with every wave, there's a lot of very similar patterns that happen across different products. A lot of social networking products look the same. A lot of credit-based products look the same. And we're seeing that very similar in the agent era with many companies, of course, in Redpoint's portfolio and so forth. And the key insight between both companies is that you have amazing models but context is king. Context is what puts them to work. So I see it in a lot of ways, a lot of similarities in this is a healthcare-coded version of Glean but the differences are really interesting. A couple things that come to mind. First and foremost, the rigor of the setting we're in. The downside risk is extremely high here in healthcare. It can be fatal in some cases. You prescribe something that the patient is allergic to for example. Whereas at Glean, it's “Oh, you got the question wrong.” It wasn't the end of the world in most cases. And so what does that mean? That shapes our evaluation strategy, both offline evaluation, progressive rollout and there's a lot more we could go into there. Second thing that comes to mind is, vertical versus horizontal. In both cases, there's a large variance but when Glean is, it's a much more horizontal company, there's a variance of personas, companies that you're working with. We also have a variance of personas, different types of specialties, different hospital systems. But the variance is a little more narrow. So from a product perspective, you're able to focus far more, especially when you have a maturing technology and you're building new products that never existed before. It lets you go after them much more easily and especially in healthcare where so many problems were solved with labor and process, that it's extremely ripe for AI to keep helping augment and enable. And the final thing that's really interesting, Abridge specifically compared to many other companies in the AI area, is the modality we started with where we're ambient and we're always listening in the background. And many more AI products will go that way but it's how we started. And that's the greatest form of AI we can create, AI that's seamless. You're not looking at your screen. It's always there. It's always helping you out and being proactive. The Jarvis vision that, every hackathon I went to over the past decade, there was always a Jarvis competitor. But Abridge very much started from the opportunity and continues to go that way.Ambient AI and Alert Fatigue: When Should the Product Interrupt?Jacob [00:06:57]: One thing that is super interesting then from a product perspective is you have this always-on seamless in the background and then you have to decide when you break the wall almost and say, “Hey, clinician, you might not have thought about X,” or whatever it is that you want to do. And in healthcare traditionally there's been this idea of alert fatigue and a million pop-ups and then a doctor just ignores all of them. It's probably a pattern that a lot of builders are thinking through now. How do you think about the right way to intervene or to pop up in a doctor visit?Janie [00:07:26]: It's such a good question. Alerts are notorious in healthcare specifically. Over 90% of alerts are ignored. The first and most important thing is context is everything, as Chai alluded to and I also think about how do we go from being reactive alerting to really proactive intelligence at the point at which it matters most. One thing we like to say is we want our product to feel like air conditioning. It should be in the background just making things better and if there is something that has great clinical risk and we're acutely aware that intervening now and not later is incredibly important, we should decide to act. But if you think about proactive versus reactive, instead of alerting a clinician during a visit when they're with their patient having a pretty serious and sensitive conversation, how do we prep a clinician before they walk into the room with that patient? And so historically, clinicians might have to manually go through charts with a patient that they've had over the course of months or years and they'll try to suss out what are the things they should be doing. You can imagine a world with Abridge. We'll summarize all of the most recent context for you, tell you based on the reason for a visit the patient is coming in for the types of things you should be discussing. And so you're going into that conversation prepped rather than walking in cold to that patient visit and then having this product interrupt you five or 10 times throughout the visit. And there might be times where it's really important to interrupt. We have a product called Prior Authorization and so this is when you may go into a doctor's office with knee pain. They'll prescribe you an MRI and so many of us have had this experience before, where in four weeks you'll get a call saying, “Hey, Sean, that MRI that you were prescribed wasn't approved and why don't you come back in? We'll figure it out.” In a world with Abridge, we might choose to quietly but still alert a doctor in that visit. And alert is probably not even the word we would want to use. Before a patient leaves, we would want to tell the doctor, “Hey, Doctor, before Sean leaves, you should ask him, has he had physical therapy and has his pain lasted for more than six weeks? Because the Aetna plan that he's on in California requires six things. We've already confirmed four of them have been met ‘cause we have all the context. But these two last criteria, if you can address with Sean before he leaves the room, we could guarantee that your MRI is approved before you leave.” And so when you think about clinical usefulness, impact to the patient, there are instances in which if we can catch a doctor while the patient is still in the room, as we think about save time, save money, save lives, we get to check all of those boxes. But when doctors have 15 minutes between visits, we have to be really thoughtful about when it matters.Prior Authorization: Reducing Latency in CareChai [00:10:23]: There's this interesting product opportunity AI has is reducing latency in the world. For example, prior authorization is an example of where care gets delayed and so great AI can reduce that. And the problem with alerts before partially is a technical problem: the quality of your alerts really matters. They're going to get ignored if you get alerts that... Similarly in engineering, where they're noisy alerts that you can't act on. But if you can make really high-quality alerts with both the context, as Janie said, and really high-quality models, then you can create a whole other game.Janie [00:10:53]: And I really like that experience because it starts to tease apart, what makes this so hard and unique. One, to make that prior authorization example possible, think about all the data that you need to have. You need to integrate with the electronic health record to know all of the patient context. Do we have access to your previous labs, previous imaging? And then to match you and to know that you're on Aetna, we have to collect all of the different payer policies and they vary by state. Some of these payer policies live on websites. Some of them live in unstructured 50-page PDF files.Jacob [00:11:31]: I thought this episode wasJacob [00:11:31]: To make sure we didn't scare people from healthcare.Janie [00:11:34]: But when you think about the things that make it hard, it also gives you the moat.Janie [00:11:39]: And then the second is the AI and the model quality we need to be able to hang our hat on. And so the bar, similarly when I worked at Opendoor, I worked on pricing models. Every outlier wiped out the margins of 30 and so similarly here in healthcare, the bar for accuracy is so high. And then I'd say the last is workflow is everything. If insurance companies deploy AI, it typically happens too late and this is when you have the notorious comical examples of AI just fighting each other when it's too late. But if we can pull forward the use of both the AI but also the ability to solve problems when the patient's in the room, you can start to collapse what typically takes weeks or months after your visit, ideally down to minutes or real-time. And it's where healthcare is both very difficult but also extremely rewarding if you can crack it.Product Form Factors: Mobile, Desktop, In-Room Devices, and ARSwyx [00:12:36]: Just to get some baseline on the form factors, because I've seen some videos on your website and stuff. You guys talk a lot about ambient AI. Is it primarily on the phone? Is there any other form factor that people get Abridge in? Is there an Abridge room setup where it's always on? I don't know.Jacob [00:12:55]: An Abridge podcast studio.Janie [00:12:58]: Primary form factor is mobile and desktop. UsuallyJanie [00:13:00]: Clinicians are walking in and out of rooms with mobile but at the end of the day, when they're closing out their notes or wanting to prep for the day ahead, they might use desktop. We have been having a lot of really interesting partnership conversations with a lot of these in-room device companies as you think about the power of multimodality and even more data, as you think about all of what is not captured today. It is fascinating to think about, especially even as we go into building and scaling our nursing product. It's one where nurses constantly, as they're walking in to check in on a patient for two minutes or maybe even 30 seconds,Janie [00:13:43]: Starting an Abridge experience is probably going to take longer than the visit. And so what can we do with in-room devices that are always on starts to raise really interesting and fun product questions.Swyx [00:13:54]: I was thinking, the way in tech companies we have all these Google MeetSwyx [00:13:58]: And other things, we might as well set up entire rooms with just Abridge tech.Chai [00:14:02]: Very much. AR glasses and related form factors are also relevant: how do we bring the information to the clinician in real-time without a screen, while still letting them focus on the patient?Swyx [00:14:18]: Do you think they want that? I'm skeptical of AR, but I'm curious what you've tried.Chai [00:14:26]: Admittedly, it's not a near-term product roadmapChai [00:14:29]: By any means. I'm being far-fetched.Jacob [00:14:31]: There's some sick AR stuff for surgeries.Swyx [00:14:33]: Really?Jacob [00:14:33]: When people are trying to visualize, you're about to make an incision but you want to see, what the cut might look or what the body might look like inside and they can layer in imaging.Swyx [00:14:43]: That's cool.Chai [00:14:45]: At some point in the future.Janie [00:14:46]: But there are a lot of our largest customers and at the largest health systems integrating already and so even as we think about building into it, unlocks a lot of product capabilities.Swyx [00:14:57]: And just to establish the terminology. Sorry, and I know I'm asking basic questions somewhat for myself but also for the audience who might beHealth Systems, Buyers, Clinicians, Patients, and PayersSwyx [00:15:05]: Less integrated. When you say health systems, it's like the Johns Hopkins, the Kaiser Permanentes.Janie [00:15:09]: Mayos, the Kaisers of the world.Swyx [00:15:10]: These are your customers, right? And the outcome that you deliver for them is happier doctors, reduced cost of processing, reduced mistakes. It's weird in a sense that I feel like there's also, a secondary customer, the customer of the customer and I don't know if you — do you think about it that way?Janie [00:15:28]: The other interesting and complex part of building product is we have our buyers, who are the chief medical information officersJanie [00:15:39]: The chief financial officers, the CIOs of these large health systems. Our users today are clinicians but if you think about who downstream is impacted, it's patients. And so as we build, with every product in mind, we think about who we're building for, who the secondary user is and what does that mean either in terms of experience, security compliance, ROI that we have to make tangible. And so like you said, time savings is one of them. But for CFOs, they care a lot more than just time savings. We have to show for every dollar you put into Abridge, because you have more compliant documentation or because you have fewer queries coming from your billing team, we save or add real dollars to your bottom line or top line, are things that we're constantly thinking about because of the dynamic across all three sets of users.Chai [00:16:32]: There's a whole other axis too with the payers and pharmaChai [00:16:35]: as well. Connecting all these three big stakeholders in healthcare isSwyx [00:16:39]: Do the payers ever see your data? Sorry, the payers meaning the insurers, right?Chai [00:16:44]: Yes.Swyx [00:16:44]: They also see Abridge data?Chai [00:16:47]: NoSwyx [00:16:47]: Like the direct integration to you guysChai [00:16:48]: They wouldn't see the raw Abridge data but when you're working together on something like prior authorization, whatever information they need, we'd communicate to them.Jacob [00:16:59]: That's cool. I would love to dig into the AI side. You still have a lot of problems on the AI side. And so maybe to start at the highest level, what's one of the hardest problems you have to solve in AI at Abridge today?The Hardest AI Problems: Quality, Latency, and CostChai [00:17:11]: To make things simple, let's take, building off the prior auth example. So one thing Janie talked about is okay, this data is all over the place and there's this combinatorial explosion of procedures, payer policies and even sometimes different health systems. There can be some cross-product of all of these different considerations you have to take into account. But what's really hard about this problem is doing it real-time in the conversation. So, in any AI product, usually the three KPIs you care about are quality, latency and cost. Now, what we're saying is we want you to do this real-time in the conversation, guiding the clinician. How do we do it in a way that does not break the bank? But we're using — But we also need very intelligent models because you're working with this cross-product of data and this, all this context layer as well. So you need high intelligence and high-quality because you don't want the alert fatigue but you also need to be fast and cost-effective. And so that's where a lot of clever engineering goes. It's okay, without getting into all the details here, can you model these policies in some intermediate representation or other things that you can do that can make this problem tractable? And of course, the Pareto frontier is always changing but we are also trying to do this now.Model Strategy: Third-Party Models, Proprietary Data, and Medical ConversationsJacob [00:18:26]: What implications has that had for what you take off-the-shelf and say, “ what? We don't need to be world-class at X. We'll just take this from the model providers or from some infrastructure player,” and what you're “No, this is where we spend most of our time focused on”?Chai [00:18:38]: This is, the fun challenge in AI?Jacob [00:18:42]: It changes every three months? SoChai [00:18:42]: Of course, with the shifting landscape, we try to be extremely thoughtful on predicting the trends of where third-party models are going and where we can uniquely go. And, sometimes when you talk about AI models, we're the models are just going to get infinitely better. But I don't think... It may be in the grandness of time you could say that but, within every month, every quarter, there's specific ways they're getting better. They're training on a lot more, coding data to be better coding agents, for example. And soChai [00:19:14]: We have to think about where are the things that won't — unique data that we're uniquely training on or to step back a little, where is a proprietary model bringing advantage to us is if it can give higher quality or lower cost and latency for similar quality, very similar to many other companies. And when we can do that is when we have proprietary data. So, for example, we have on the order of eighty million or hundreds of millions now getting close to of medical conversations.Jacob [00:19:44]: It's insane.Chai [00:19:45]: This is a unique data set. And this data set, it's very interesting because this data set is effectively a large part of the trace between the patient and the provider. That's where the quote-unquote debugging happens in healthcare. We have these traces at scale, as in as, our CEOs even called it, an exhaust that comes out of our product. And so when you have these traces, that's how you can train better agents on certain use cases, whether it's your transcription diarization use cases or so on or like note generation models and we can do that much cheaper and faster. But we're always also working with these third-party model providers. We closely collaborate with them and that's how we predict where the trends are going. The thing that I think about a lot is that, I know that the model providers are going to train much more on agentic workflows and so forth, so that's great, so that you have a better agentic harness. But the other thing that's interesting is that the model providers, because a large class of the consumer model providers is healthcare queries, that they might, optimize to train a lot of healthcare data to encode the knowledge in its weights. And this is just a great thing for us as well, where the off-the-shelf models can keep bett-getting better at general healthcare information, such that what our strategy is, we have a constellation of models, we can use something for this, that and, we only care about, at the end of the day, the best product experience.EHR as File System: Agentic Workflows and Real-Time InterfacesJacob [00:21:07]: And, you have, overall capabilities improving. I'm curious, as these models get better, is there something you look at and you're “, three months ago, we really couldn't do that but God, the the latest models really allow us to do it”?Chai [00:21:19]: So here's something interesting that I've, been toying with. So all models are... This wasn't super obvious a year ago but now it's become clear and clear that almost every agent is a coding agent underneath the hood? So you give it whatever file system, it can write its own code and so forth. So when you think about within healthcare and the use case that we have, you can think of the EHR effectively like a file system. It's just — it's a storage of all this information. It's a lot of information there that cannot fit into the context window, at least of today's models and you want to use that context effectively for all these product use cases we're talking about. And so if you have better agents that can, manipulate data, read that data, treat it as a file system as we see they're going and we know model companies are investing this way, then that very directly benefits us.Swyx [00:22:09]: Yeah. Okay, cool. Again, just establishing basic things. But we're going back to the model stuff. I'm really interested in double-clicking more on the real-time, element, which is pretty important for both of you. Is it — Is real-time just batches of every one minute, every five minutes? Is that how we do it? Or is there some more native, genuinely real-time in the sense that OpenAI has a real-time API or Gemini has a real-time API?Chai [00:22:35]: Yeah. Yeah. So today it is more on the on the batch basis but there's interestingChai [00:22:41]: Prototypes that we have that we're still not fully, full time, voice in text out or in that sense. But, can you trigger your models, your agents or agentic workflows, depending on the right times in the conversation?Chai [00:22:58]: And so you can imagine, different techniques to bring this latency down and, you want to bring the feedback loop down as much as you can. And so a lot of clever engineering there without fully... Maybe one day we'll do full voice in and text out, train a model to do something like that.Swyx [00:23:15]: You do — People don't want voice in voice out?Chai [00:23:18]: Now we aren't creating experiences that are, during the conversation, inter — It's almost likeSwyx [00:23:25]: Might be too disruptiveChai [00:23:26]: Too disruptive until, who knows, maybe eventually you could have full voice agents once we — the quality and we improve the comfort of the technology. But right now gra — that change is much more gradual and it's more text focus, text out.Janie [00:23:42]: And so much of currently what our product is trying to do is allow a clinician to focus on their patient and maybe at some point but right now patients, clinicians don't want a third voice, at least in a literal voice in that room. And so how do we be there with all the contacts and information ready at hand when there's the right moment?Personalization: Individual Doctors, Specialties, and Health SystemsJacob [00:24:03]: Jenny, one thing I'm curious about is how you think about, personalization in the product. I imagine, every doctor is a special snowflake in their own way, has their own way they like to do things. There are probably a bunch of different approaches you could take to doing that, both within the model layer itself but then also just with clever prompting or engineering. How do youJacob [00:24:20]: Deliver on that?Janie [00:24:21]: It's such a good question. Personalization is massive for us. We think about personalization at three levels. The first is at the individual, the second is at the specialty level and then the third is at the health system or the organization level. To your point, there are a lot of individual preferences. You-When a note is produced, it almost is a reflection that is so deeply personal of a doctor's work and how they give care. And so do they have preferences on things like style? They might want bullets versus paragraphs, really concise versus comprehensive. They also might have phrases that they really like to use or the templates that they want every note to be structured. And, we see it in our feedback all the time. We want two spaces in between sentences or I refuse to use this tool. And so that's something that we've had to build in. And the tricky part is how do you make sure that stylistic preferences don't interrupt accuracy and quality and that's something that we've really had to refine and hone over time. Second is at the specialty level. A cardiologist note or workflow is going to look very different from a dermatologist workflow.Jacob [00:25:32]: I assume cardiology notes are the highest stakes for you guys, given your CEO is a cardiologist.Jacob [00:25:36]: It's “Oh my God, make sure we get this one.”Janie [00:25:37]: Shiv, our CEO, is still a practicing cardiologist. He rounds once a month. And so, first call when we want just quick and easy user feedback too.Janie [00:25:46]: But, specialties require a lot of personalization, both in terms of what does the product look and so we make sure that as new users onboard, we catch that and the product proportionally reflects that. But also on the back end, evals at the specialty level, they are hard-earned to calibrate and get. What does a really great dermatology note look like? What makes it complete? What makes it compliant and billable is very different than a primary care doctor. And so it's not just about what does the product experience look but on the back end tuning and really deepening our understanding for the specialists. What does great output look like? And that's, a problem that we need to calibrate internally, externally, online, offline but, takes lots of cycles but is necessary in a high-stakes environment. And then at the health system level, for products like clinical decision support, you have health systems who've spent years or decades refining their best practices and they want to know, “Hey, we love your clinical decision support product but how do we embed our own hospital guidelines into them to inform clinicians before, during or after a visit what brest — best practices should look like?” And as you think about, deepening moats as well, when health systems, trust us with that data, allow us to productize it and directly into the clinical workflow, makes us a really great partner to health systems who want to build something that truly meets their needs, their practicing guidelines.AI Slop, Memory, and Product Data FlywheelsChai [00:27:23]: And I want to add onto that. The for the clinical documentation problem, it's very similar to AI writing that doesn't feel like your own and then we call that slop. But the way I describe one framing of slop is like AI without context. But we have all that context and both the clinicians, can have it and can guide it. And so part of the other interesting exhaust for us is, memory is, one of these new systems recordsChai [00:27:49]: Almost.Janie [00:27:50]: And we also have all the edits people make on our product and when you think about a data flywheel and how we get better over time becomes really powerful as a mechanism to just going deeper in personalization.Jacob [00:28:04]: It's interesting. I love this idea of working with systems on the guidelines they built up over a long time. I feel like so many of the best AI app companies today are... The question is: How do you take the expertise that a law firm or a bank has built up over many years and then add that as context and also a special sauce over, a an AI tool? And so seems like y'all are really doing that very effectively.Janie [00:28:24]: We're now starting to have our customers ask, “What are other customers doing?”Janie [00:28:28]: “And how are they doing it?”Janie [00:28:30]: And as we think about having visibility across such a large set of care being delivered right now, a really interesting place we could also partner.Swyx [00:28:40]: I'm just curious. I — This may be a nothing question but, how different are health system guidelines from each other? Don't they all converge to the same thing? And if not, where do they differ?Chai [00:28:52]: At a really high level, they're going to talk about very similar things but the difference is probably in some more of the details. “Oh, you should refer to specialists only when XYZ conditions are met,” or so forth and maybe different organizations have different practices and guidelines around that. But high level, talking about similar things but the details are what, of course, that shapes the context and the decisions you make.Swyx [00:29:15]: And this all goes into the context engine and it might affect the notes but maybe not.Chai [00:29:21]: The — For these local pathways, we're definitely thinking about it a little more for our clinical decision support product.Chai [00:29:26]: So yeah.Swyx [00:29:27]: Which is your stuff, yeah.Swyx [00:29:28]: And then the memory which you raised, let's just tell us more about that. What have you tried in memory? What's the structure of the memory? What works? What doesn't work?Chai [00:29:38]: There's, of course, many different ways you could do memory, where it's okay, can you bake it into the model weights or can you do it in some external store? For us, what's interesting is, of course, when you think the models are rapidly changing, whether it's in-house or third-party, baking into the model weights, sometimes you worry that it could be a little throwaway. And so, how do you... You need to find a way that you decompose the problem, the preferences from the underlying models and so forth. The thing we're right now most both that's easiest to start with and we're excited about is having, a separate store for memory, where you have, for example, a memory sub-agent that's, working in the background, figuring out what are the important parts of the clinician's actions that we want to remember for the long term. And then you can also imagine, other things where in the — you have background jobs that are running that are collating these, memories similar to Sleep, of course and what other pattern, patterns products do as well. Learning over all these action, all the action data we have, again, note edits, the conversations they did and the actual transcripts.Evals: LFD, LLM Judges, and Clinical SafetyJacob [00:30:40]: What about evals? How in the world do you... It is such a complex product surface area. We would love to hear you riff on that and also how has that evolved? I'm sure you've gotten better at it, so any learnings along the way.Janie [00:30:50]: From an evals perspective, we, from day one when we build any new product or feature, we think about, what does good look like? And there are table stakes things like clinical safety but then you start to get deeper into what does good quality look like. And when you go into something like our core product, there's stuff like style and completeness and there's things like does this note become something that can be billable, which is very high stakes for a health system. We have a number of ways in which we get confidence for this. We have, internal in-house clinicians who do what we call an LFD process to give us our very first pass at is this or isn't this a good enough output, look at the effing data.Jacob [00:31:41]: LFD?Chai [00:31:42]: That's why I was smiling. I was “Is Janie going to mention what it stands for?”Jacob [00:31:46]: I was not... There's like a million acronyms.Jacob [00:31:48]: How am I supposed to know that I don't? So “Oh yeah, of course, an LFD.”Swyx [00:31:51]: I've never heard of LFDs.Chai [00:31:53]: It's a bridge for sure.Janie [00:31:55]: I got through three days and then I had to ask someone.Janie [00:31:58]: I thought it was just me that didn't knowJanie [00:32:01]: It's our internal process.Swyx [00:32:02]: But look at the data as a meme in ML, ‘cause you tend to not look at it. You just want to look at number go up.Chai [00:32:06]: Exactly.Swyx [00:32:07]: But yes.Janie [00:32:08]: But so, we make sure we look at the data and then as we think about all of the components of good output, we, one, create LLM judges across all of these and we make sure with annotated data and either internal or external evaluators, we feel like these judges are calibrated. And then depending on the stakes, we also work with in-house and third-party evaluators across all of these before we ship any big change. And the goal is, in terms of evolution, how do you go from this process taking months, down to weeks, down to days? Some of it is, a true science and ML problem. A lot of it's also just, hard operational work. Have you planned ahead in terms of what you need? Have you really optimized the capacity that you need across all of the different specialties you need? Have you gotten a really good sense of which third parties are great to work with for what use cases? This takes a lot of domain, expertise and, lots of mistakes and errors in figuring that out. And so as much of it is an ML problem, so much of it has also been operational gains that are hugely important, where domain-specific expertise is everything.Specialty-Level Evaluation and Progressive RolloutsJacob [00:33:23]: But it's funny, ‘cause I feel like people talk about healthcare like it's one giant market and the reality isJacob [00:33:26]: It's, dozens and dozens of sub-markets. And so it feels like in your evals you have to build that up across the board, probably.Swyx [00:33:34]: And is specialization the primary cardinality at... That's the word that comes to mind.Janie [00:33:40]: Sometimes, depending on the product or the use case. And so if we're making a note improvement or feature for a particular specialty, definitely but we have products that are for nurses. We have products that, are really aimed at making the document or the output a lot more billable. And so we'll want to work with coding teams and not necessary clinicians. And so likeJacob [00:34:05]: Coding meaning healthcare coding.Janie [00:34:06]: Yes. Yes.Jacob [00:34:07]: NotChai [00:34:07]: Yes. I see you.Swyx [00:34:07]: Other kinds.Janie [00:34:09]: But is this output proportional to the work that was delivered? Is there sufficient documentation to justify the amount that a health system may end up charging? And so, specialty sometimes but also domain, very different across all of the different products that we're working for. And building out that network is, not easy and is where a lot of our operational investments have gone into.Chai [00:34:35]: And I view a lot of analogies to self-driving cars here, where, part of it is we really want progressive rollout of features to test in the real world is this useful? Is this going to work? One big difference compared to past lives is before I'd build a product, maybe I'd alpha it and then I'd like GA it the next week, ‘cause I'm “Go, move fast, ship,” and whatnot. But the mentality is like you... I want to make contact with the reality as quick as possible but I want a progressive rollout. Because as much as I get as large of an offline eval set, I want the distribution of that to match real-life distribution. And over time, by rolling out early, similar to Waymo has a tagline, “The world's most experienced driver,” another thing that can, at least linearly increase for us is, both the size of our evaluation offline and online, that and it all feeds back.Janie [00:35:25]: Something that's been earned over time, speaking of evolution, is just the trust we've gotten with customers. Historically, a lot of these health systems, when they bring on new vendors, their release cycles are quarters, sometimes twice a year. We've gotten our customers onto monthly release cycles, which is pretty fast for health systems but what is more exciting over the last, call it, few quarters, has been, a subset of our customers have said, “We want to innovate with you. We trust you,” and we have a pretty, decent chunk of our customers who say, “We'll develop with you outside of these monthly release cycles. We have a higher tolerance. We know that the stakes are very high but we want to be the first ones using these products, giving you feedback.” And so for a pretty substantial set of our customers, we've been able to convince them to be able to ship, in this gradual way before GA. Something we talk about a lot internally is, trust is earned in drops, earned in buckets and so we still can't do what I used to do when I worked at Loom. We had 30 million users. I'd just be, rolling out experiments left and. The bar is still quite high for iterative rollout but because of the trust we've earned, we're able to learn at pretty high volume very quickly.Privacy, HIPAA, and De-IdentificationSwyx [00:36:45]: Your scale is still pretty huge.Swyx [00:36:47]: One thing I want to... We were going to go into scale? In a sec. One thing I wanted to call up, follow up on evals, which, again, just coming from a generalist engineer point of view, just thinking through what would people be scared of in doing this, the privacy and HIPAAJacob [00:37:00]: Elements of this. I have zero experience in that. What do you have to do? What is surprisingly not that bad?Chai [00:37:06]: So one thing that's really important here from a compliance perspective is very much that any of the data we use needs to be de-identified, any real-world data we use as a basis of online eval sets we're learning from. And so you have to — And there's, very clear, government guidelines, what counts as PHI. And so we've even have built models that can take, for example, a clinical transcript and remove all the key PHI indicators and so you have a scrubbed/de-identified version. And then once you... And so one thing that's important is first you've got to get confidence in that model in the first place? And prove that out. Because, now you have, multiple probabilistic systems on top of each other.Chai [00:37:46]: But once you have that, then you can train on it use it for evaluation and so forth, provided one of the cool things also that you can do from a business side is the right data contracting as well with your partners.Jacob [00:37:57]: Is the anonymization one way? Once it's done, you cannot undo it? Or is there someoneChai [00:38:01]: YesJacob [00:38:02]: Who holds the master key that can... Yeah, okay. So it's one way.Chai [00:38:05]: It's one way. Yeah.Jacob [00:38:06]: That's how it works. I just wanted to... Because, there's a lot of this, learning from feedback and everything that, you would want to debug more but you can't because you just physically don't allow yourself to.Janie [00:38:17]: Some of it's also written in our customer contracts in terms of who can or can't access PHI data, how long do we retain it,Jacob [00:38:27]: Very goodJanie [00:38:27]: Before it gets de-identified. And so we have a pretty high bar for who can access that PHI data, just to make sure that we always respect our customer data and privacy. But that's something that we partner with our customers on too, to make sure that as we want full, as close to precision as possible in that qualityJanie [00:38:48]: We can still use it.Jacob [00:38:50]: But it'll be fascinating to see how that space evolves? Because you think about, I used to work at a company that, did a lot of healthcare data in the cancer space and if you asked, the average cancer patient, “Hey, do you want people, do you want other patients to be able to learn-”Chai [00:39:03]: Take it.Jacob [00:39:03]: “... Learn from your experience?”Chai [00:39:04]: Take it all.Jacob [00:39:05]: They're “Please.”Jacob [00:39:06]: “I'd love, nothing more than for other people to be able to learn fromJacob [00:39:10]: The experience that I had.” And so in the past it was a lot harder to do that learning. But with this technology, that might really be practical and so it'll be fascinating to see how that continues to evolve.Chai [00:39:21]: There's so much in our data set of 100 million conversations.Chai [00:39:26]: You can imagine things like insights that you can give to the clinician. How could you, oh, how could you have reacted to this? In coaching or insights around, which treatments are effective or, like... Because you have this, again, this data source that was never captured before but that's, where, intuition or experience is created from, going back to this idea that the conversation is the agent of truth.Operating at Scale: Reliability, Cost, and Token EfficiencyJacob [00:39:46]: Back to the 100 million conversations, I feel like you have this insane scale that maybe only a few other AI app companies have and everyone else dreams of. So not everyone has had to confront this yet but maybe just talk about some of the challenges of operating at that scale and what, our listeners have to look forward to if they ever get to this level of scale.Chai [00:40:05]: At large and larger in scale, so of course there's a general, infrastructure reliability. When you... In any given startup, you're building the plane while it's flying. So there's some notion of that. But what gets interesting on the AI and ML side for sure is this, as you get at more and more scale, so one, you have the data to first and foremost do this. But, you start thinking about costs or infrastructure in a whole different way at scale versus, a prototype.Chai [00:40:34]: You can use the most expensive model, you can burn as many tokens as you want but when you're doing 100 million conversationsJacob [00:40:41]: Token max on leaderboards are less upsetting than that context.Chai [00:40:45]: . When you're doing that and so that comes for we have the data and we also have the team that's able to post-train based on this and you can optimize for efficiency, especially in areas where you believe that maybe a lot of the quality headroom is less so and you don't expect the other off-the-shelf models to go that way, such that you want to do, efficiency maximization, in terms of compute and tokens.Jacob [00:41:08]: I feel like you guys live in the future in some way where most use cases today are really just in use case discovery mode, where it's “God, I really hope I can find something that can get to scale,” and so you're always going to use the most powerful model. And then the few things that do get to this level of scale, you start to do those optimizations.Chai [00:41:22]: It's a natural trajectory where it's like zero-to-one, we're not talking about any of these optimizations.Chai [00:41:26]: But when maybe we're in the one-to-100 or so forth, then we're in optimization mode and, what works out really well is you've got all this data from zero-to-one that lets you do this.What Comes Next: The Conversation as the Shared Healthcare PlatformJacob [00:41:36]: That's fascinating. I feel like one thing that's so interesting about the Abridge footprint is that you're in the doctor-patient visit in real-time. I always like to say, there's like probably 50 years' worth of product you could build on top of that. What gets each of you, I don't know, what are you most excited about building, either in the short term or medium term or even, long down the line?Janie [00:41:53]: Something that I get really excited about is that the same conversation can serve so many stakeholders. If you think about the conversation, a doctor needs to know what is the documentation, how do I make sure that this fully represent the care I gave? A patient needs to know, “What the heck just happened? This was really overwhelming. What are my next steps?” A payer needs to know, was this the proper and appropriate care given? A pharma company might want to know why isn't this drug being properly used or is there a good candidate for this clinical trial that I'm about to run? And where I get excited is that our product and our platform and our infrastructure can be the same product across all of those things and start to what's today, separate, very expensive, complex systems that serve each one of these stakeholders in very different ways, start to collapse all of that into a singular platform that enables not just more efficiency across the board but also better outcomes for everyone. And, all of us experience healthcare in probably very painful ways and knowing that there is a world in which we can simplify a lot is really exciting to me and it all starts with the conversation.Chai [00:43:15]: It's interesting. Of it very similar to going back to the KPIs that any AI product cares about. How do you increase quality of care? How do you reduce latency to care? And how do you reduce costs? Which is a huge, in healthcareJacob [00:43:28]: They call it the triple aim in healthcare.Chai [00:43:30]: But very similar to building AI products and the thing that really excites me is when we talk about that latency piece, we talked about one example earlier of prior authorization, can you reduce the latency to care? But you can imagine so much more. Oh, as soon as the lab value gets updated, do you have like a background agent that, kicks off and uses all the context to be “Oh, hey, the patient should do this next,” for example. And of flagging that to the clinician who's always in the loop but reducing that latency, to care. And then you can imagine this is much further down the road but it's like even connecting that to the direct patient and the consumer. And so how can you, how can you build a bridge to all of these things?EHR Partnerships and the Clinical Intelligence LayerJacob [00:44:10]: Very cool. The connections piece is just an ever-growing thing. And one of the key partners is the EHR and I wonder what that relationship is like. Will they, look at this as, something that is valuable enough that they want to own someday?Janie [00:44:29]: Our partnerships with the EHR is, we know that we have to be extremely close partners with all the EHRs who we partner with. Being able to not only pull and push all of the data into the right places is, not only table stakes, if we can't do that, health systems don't want to use us. The second and the reality of today is clinicians spend a lot of their days in the EHR. So much of what allowed us to win in the largest health systems was pretty direct and, very close partnerships with some of the largest electronic health records that allowed us to pull and push data with APIs that weren't ready out of the box. And clinicians want to save clicks. Anytime we introduce a new product that, adds two clicks for them in their day, they're “We're not going to use it.”Janie [00:45:21]: They have 15-minute back-to-back appointments with their patients. They're spending, hours during pajama time doing documentation. Every second and every minute counts and so we really think about being deeply integrated into the EHR as also table stakes to getting real usage and adoption. And anything that we build or introduce, we really talk about earn the right internally a lot, which is we have to provide so much value or save so much time that people will use us. But those are the two things that are close to us, is we know that the product won't be used unless it is deeply interoperable.Chai [00:46:01]: And strategically, to your point, it's like what does EHR want to own versus us? EHRs are really focused on the clinical workflows and so forth but some of the things that we're talking about here, I do these traditionally are outside of the domain where it's oh, connecting pairs and providers together with provider policies or the clinical trial matching, as Janie brought up. And so these are, entirely — we position ourselves as building this entirely new intelligence, clinical intelligence layer across, again, providers, pharma and, payers.Chai [00:46:33]: And so that's a it's a whole different ballgame that we try to playChai [00:46:36]: In combination with them.Jacob [00:46:37]: But it's like a different layer of scope.Healthcare AI Regulation, Technical Depth, and What Changed Their MindsJacob [00:46:39]: I'm curious, you are both relatively newcomers to healthcare. People have these, there's lots of futuristic healthcare AI takes of “Oh, everything will look different.”, now that you've been in healthcare for a bit, you live at the edge of AI, what have you, changed your mind on around this, as you think about what healthcare looks like in ten, 20 years? Any updates to your mental model from the time being close to the problems?Chai [00:47:02]: One thing that IChai [00:47:04]: Was hesitant about before and it's a common thing when I'm trying to recruit engineers that people ask me around, is definitely oh, healthcare, heavily regulated space. And it is, rightfully so. You want to keep, the patients at the end of the day safe. But one of the interesting things that, is a that surprised me how much it is coming to the company is there's a lot of really favorable regulatory tailwinds as well. Where you think about, government really wants interoperability between all these systems that we talked about and so agents can access this information. The government just in January, the FDA released updated guidance on clinical decision support, what I work on in such a way that they used to have guidance from like 2022 that required you to have, mention all these options and do all these other things but it's a very forward and forward-looking way. And so for me, what's been really cool to work on is this, there's this very special moment both in AI in general, we all know that but there's a special moment also regulatory in healthcare as well.Janie [00:48:05]: One thing I would call out is for the very reasons things are higher stakes or, potentially considered more difficult in healthcare, it's where some of the hardest AI problems will get solved first, just because the bar is so high. When I first joined, I was “Oh, this is where we'll be on the tail end of where, all of the AI innovation will be able to be applied.” But when you think about, zero error evals or multi-step workflows that have really low tolerance, a lot of the innovation will happen here just because we have to or else we can't ship.Jacob [00:48:42]: ‘Cause like in other domains, you'd much rather just solve the 80%-is-good-enough problems firstJanie [00:48:46]: 80/20 doesn't work hereChai [00:48:48]: And building off that, traditionally, there was a bit of stigma that, oh, healthcare companies are not that interesting from a technical perspective or I've seen that or faced that myself. But these are really hard and fun problems from a pure technical perspective beyond just the impact. How do you bring the latency of this thing down and make it really high-quality?Reducing Latency: Clinical Workflows, Agents, and Implementation RealityJacob [00:49:07]: How do you bring the latency of things down?Chai [00:49:10]: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So okay, let's answer the latency question. And maybe hopefully not too redundant with some of the things I've said earlier but some part of it is with any latency, you have to like what is, what is really your bottleneck. In a lot of workflows, it's sometimes it's the model itself. And so that's where like our data flywheel, our post-training team and so forth come in so that can you make the models far more efficient. So that's one aspect of latency. But there's whole other aspects of latency where it's okay, on top of that, if you use a constellation of different models, can you use — can you first use like a — it's like thinking fast and slow. Can you use a cheap, fast model that triages and hands it off to a larger model where you get more intelligence and so forth and so all theseChai [00:49:56]: Clever tricks to make it work.Chai [00:49:58]: And by the way, we are totally — we also realize that the parameter frontier is changing and so these tricks will — may not get us to where we want to be in five years but we need to if we want to build a useful product right now.Jacob [00:50:11]: Should we go to the quick-fire or you want to ask more about Abridge? We can stuff everything that's not Abridge into the quick-fireSwyx [00:50:16]: I don't mind. I was — I feel like Janie was on the topic of more long tail stuff, which isSwyx [00:50:21]: Not the eighty/twenty thing and that really matters. And I'll —, if you have any tips or cool stories or just general approaches that have worked for you that's interesting to dig into.Janie [00:50:32]: One of them is even just how we staff our teams looks different than a traditional software engineering team, I'd say.Swyx [00:50:40]: Let's go.Clinician Scientists, Edge Cases, and Evals at ScaleJanie [00:50:41]: We have a bunch of folks with different roles who are clinicians and so we have this role called the clinician scientist and I heard one of our leaders refer to them as mutants recently. But they are people who've had clinical backgrounds, so MDs typically, who are also deeply technical, somewhere, on the spectrum of like a full stack engineer all the way to like extremely scrappy prompter. But having each of these people embedded within our teams instantly raises the bar for everything that we build because not only are they determining, is this product clinically useful but they're deeply embedded in our whole evals process. And so when we talk about LFDs, when we talk about what is our actual evaluation criteria, you don't want Chai or me creating what those are because we don't have clinical background. But is probably unique to Abridge but has been game changing. And when you think about where the puck is going, you have people build with clinical backgrounds who are technical and where AI tools are going, they just becomeJanie [00:51:53]: More and more, critical and like the killers of the team. And so that's one. And then the second is just the scale at which we do evals to catch that long tail up front before anything ever gets into production is something that we've pretty much like really started to fine-tune, both from a scale but when do we know we need to get several hundred versus several thousand offline responses, what helps us make that quick decision and make this less of an art and as much of a science as possible. But that's also been something we've had to tune over time.Swyx [00:52:27]: And you have partners who opted in to give you those evals.Janie [00:52:31]: So we work either internally or with third-party for offline evals and then we have customers who also agree to give us, whether it's like thumbs up, thumbs down to like choose this or that, a lot of data to get us to what is as close to fully confident as possible.Swyx [00:52:51]: The term that comes to mind isSwyx [00:52:53]: Like active learning on things where you're weak. I feel like it's a lost artSwyx [00:52:58]: Is a lot of the polish that comes into doing something like this.Janie [00:53:02]: Really.Chai [00:53:03]: Hundred percent.Lessons from Glean: Technical Foundations and AI App InfrastructureJacob [00:53:04]: Maybe, on a totally unrelated note, Chai, you had a very, storied run at Glean b

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In this episode, Chip and Gini open with the analogy of Canadian doubles, the tennis format where two players face one. If your team outnumbers the prospect, you don’t project strength, you project awkwardness. But the conversation goes well beyond headcount. A little preparation goes a long way in making sure every seat on your side is justified. You'll want to match expertise to whoever the prospect brought, which requires actually knowing who’s coming. Gini described a recent pitch where she reverse-engineered her attendee list based entirely on who was showing up from the prospect’s side. That’s not logistics, it’s strategy. And whoever is in the room during the pitch needs to be the person doing the work after the contract is signed — not a handoff to a team with no context and no ownership. Both Chip and Gini are emphatic that the meeting itself should not feel rehearsed like a school play. Agency owners who show up prepared to have a real conversation before pitching solutions will stand out. Harder for many owners is knowing when to keep quiet. Interjecting while a team member gives an imperfect answer undermines their confidence, signals to the prospect they can’t be trusted, and makes them rely on you. The debrief after the meeting is where the coaching happens. Key takeaways Chip Griffin: “You can’t do the bait and switch. You’ve gotta make sure that whoever they’re getting to know during the prospecting phase, that that’s who they’re going to be working with.” Gini Dietrich: “I would go to the meetings. I would create the proposal. I would sell it, I would close it, and then I would hand it off. And my team was like, they weren’t bought in. They didn’t understand…The client always felt like, well, I wanna work with you because you were in the room and that’s who we bought.” Chip Griffin: “The more you talk, it does three things. It undermines the confidence of your team member. It undermines the confidence of the client in your team. And it also puts you in a position where you are putting yourself as more necessary to the ongoing success of the relationship. And none of those things are good.” Gini Dietrich: “One of the things I think that sets a small agency apart from a large one is being able to diagnose the problem, being able to ask the questions and really have a conversation instead of doing a dog and pony show. It’s gonna be so much more appreciated because now you’re treating yourselves like their partner instead of their vendor.” View Transcript The following is a computer-generated transcript. Please listen to the audio to confirm accuracy. Chip Griffin: Hello, and welcome to another episode of the Agency Leadership Podcast. I’m Chip Griffin. Gini Dietrich: And I’m Gini Dietrich. Chip Griffin: And today we’re gonna play Canadian Doubles. No, we’re not. For those of you who are not familiar, Canadian Doubles is a version of tennis where you have two players on one side of the net and one player on the other side. Did you know that? Gini Dietrich: I have so many, I have so many questions. Chip Griffin: I don’t know why they do that. And the only reason I even know about it is because of discussions that we’ve had, in the past, or that I had, you know, 30 years ago with some business partners was how you, what the dynamics are of meeting with teams, particularly from a prospect when you’re pitching them on things. And so we always said, you know, we wanna avoid playing Canadian doubles, basically where you’re outnumbering your opponent or prospect in this case. Gini Dietrich: Yeah, I think that’s really smart because you, you probably want to at least balance it, if not come just a little bit under, because when you have more people from your team than the client has, it tends to overpower them and become a little bit overwhelming for ’em, which is not what you want. That’s not the impression you want to leave. Chip Griffin: No. I mean, it’s, uh, you know, any time that, that you, you are in a position where you are confronted by a larger number of people, whether that’s, you know, in combat, in sales, in whatever. You know, you, you don’t like that you, you kind of want even numbers, right? But that’s, we’re gonna go beyond that, folks. So just so you know, we’re not talking just about the numbers of people. Gini Dietrich: The end. Chip Griffin: But really, you know, I thought it would be helpful for us to have a conversation about how you handle group presentations with prospects or even potentially with clients or those sorts of things, because it’s something that many of us, even in small agencies often do where we’ll have more than one person in the room or on a call, pitching to a client, talking them through things. So there’s a lot of things that go into that. How many people, how do you split up the presentation time? How do you make sure that everybody looks like they’re contributing in a meaningful way? How do you manage the time when you’ve got multiple voices speaking and make sure that you’ve got a real dialogue? So. I think there’s a lot of things to consider anytime you’re doing group presentations and it’s something that since we often end up having to do it, it’s worth thinking about how to do it well. Gini Dietrich: Yeah, I completely agree. It’s, you know, one of the things that we think about it all the time, especially we, not just with new business, but with clients too. You know, we had a meeting a couple of weeks ago with a client and they really wanted me in the room, but there were only two of them and there were five of us, and so we had to kind of decide is it really important for me to be in the room? Then, and that’s the case then who are we not going to have in the room from, you know, the client team perspective. And so we went back and forth about it to decide who, who needed to be there for sure, and who was sort of ancillary and who could just get updates later. But it’s definitely something we think about all the time, not just with prospects, both with clients too. Chip Griffin: Yeah. And when I’ve worked in larger agencies, I mean, there have been times where, you know, you feel like you’re in an international summit because, you know, one side’s got 10 people, the other side’s got, you know, 12 or 13. And, and I think those are just silly on both sides. I mean, I don’t understand the value of having that many people in the room for a pitch, really, at any point. So for most of our listeners, that’s not the size and scale that we’re talking about, but I do think it’s important to think through why every single person is in that conversation. From your side in particular. Obviously you can’t really control who the other side brings, although it is worth understanding who they’re bringing and maybe asking them questions about, you know, whether, you know, whether that’s the right mix. Do they need to add somebody? Does, does that person really need to be there for this conversation? You can do that diplomatically so that you have the right mix of people on both sides. But everybody on your side, at least the side you control, needs to have a clear purpose for being there. And you shouldn’t throw extra bodies in just to show Hey, we’ve got these smart people. ’cause I’ve been in plenty of those presentations where like, we don’t really need you for anything. We just want you to be here so that they know that you exist. Gini Dietrich: Yeah. Chip Griffin: And that’s an important temptation to resist because oftentimes the other side will walk out saying, well, why was that person there? That didn’t make any sense. Gini Dietrich: Right. Yes. I think too, if you do your due diligence to say, you know, who from your side is going to be there, then you can sort of match expertise, right? So we had a new business, a new business meeting last week, and from their side they had the VP of comms from two business lines. They had the chief communications officer and they had two data analytics people. So from my side, I ensured that we had at least two communications professionals, at least one data person, myself and our chief Revenue Officer were there. And so it sort of matched the same level of expertise. And everybody was able to have conversations with their peers to be able to understand, okay, this is what they’ll do and this is how they’ll help us. And it was really, really valuable from that perspective. You know, could I have handled the communications piece of it for probably three or four of them? Sure. But I also don’t, I’m not gonna be the point of contact from a day-to-day perspective. So I wanted to make sure that the people that were in the room also were gonna be the day-to-day point points of contact. So you, you can kind of massage that a little bit based on who’s in the room from the client’s perspective or the prospect’s perspective and really understanding, okay, You know, we have to think about it both from the perspective of do we have the expertise on our side to match that. And who will be the day-to-day contact on our side that they would be working with. So that they don’t feel like we’re doing a swap, you know, once the business is won that they’ve then now have to work with the lower class employees. Chip Griffin: Right. I mean, those are, those are two fantastic points. And, so I really wanna underscore those. The first is the simplest one, which is you can’t do the bait and switch. You’ve gotta make sure that whoever they’re getting to know during the prospecting phase, that that’s who they’re going to be working with. Maybe not every single person who’s in the room, but at least whoever they main contact is. If they become a client, absolutely needs to be there. And that’s, that’s important from the client’s perspective so that they get to know that person and it, they can make a, an intelligent, informed decision about whether they want to work with that person, right? So they don’t get surprised after the fact. But it’s just as important for your team as well because by having that person in the room, they can help make, they’ll have heard firsthand what the client is looking for. You don’t have to play a game of telephone with them. They’ll be up to speed from day one. They will also help you to better spec out the proposal and pricing. Yep. Because they will have heard it and, and they’re not having it forced down their throats. They can be in a position to help guide what do you make for promises in terms of results, deadlines, the amount of time involved, those kinds of things. So really important from that perspective. But the second one is equally important, which is that you match up expertise. Particularly from the perspective, I think of, part of it’s the ability to have conversations with peers, but part of it is making sure that if you see someone bringing an expertise on their side, who is likely to ask particular questions or have particular concerns, that you have somebody on your side who can address those questions and concerns. Whether that’s a true subject matter expert on it or whether it’s in your case you’re an owner, you, you happen to know enough about that area that you could handle it if you had to. Sometimes you need to make judgements, but you know, if you’re pitching a website redesign and they say they’re gonna have their IT security guy in the room, you better have somebody in that room who can address their IT security questions. Gini Dietrich: Mm-hmm. Yes. Chip Griffin: Whether that’s you or somebody else. Yes. The fact that they’ve invited them to the meeting means it’s probably going to be a topic of conversation because you generally don’t invite your IT security guys just for Gini Dietrich: Yeah. Chip Griffin: You know, content conversations. They’re there for a particular reason or concern. Gini Dietrich: We find that a lot with the clients that we work with. When they invite their compliance, somebody from their compliance team, you’re like, okay, all right. We’re gonna make sure that we, got it. You’re taking this seriously. Okay. There, there are gonna be questions that I cannot answer. Okay. We’re gonna make sure somebody from our side is. So same kind of thing. You just have to understand who from their side is invited so that you can match that expertise. Chip Griffin: Right. Or, or you happen to notice they’ve invited their IT security guy or something like that and you say, Hey, I, I noticed you’ve invited so and so. I don’t know if this is the right forum for that. Maybe we have a, you know, maybe we should set up a separate conversation so that the whole team doesn’t get bogged down in this. Because, and, and a lot of times the IT security guy will be just as receptive to that, that he doesn’t have to sit through a whole bunch of conversation that is boring to him. And, and it may work better from your side just to have the experts have that conversation as a sidebar instead of eating up valuable time in the group presentation. So certainly look at who’s being brought into the room so that you can maybe address some of those things in advance. And steer it in a direction that’s more likely to achieve the outcome that you are looking for. Again, whether it’s a prospective client or an existing client and you’re trying to steer a project in a certain direction. Gini Dietrich: Yeah, absolutely. I think it’s so smart, and I think you, what you said earlier about, you know, ensuring that the day-to-day contact is there is critical. You know, that’s one of the mistakes I made early, early on from my perspective, is I always felt like new business wasn’t billable and – well, not felt like – it wasn’t billable. And so I didn’t wanna ask my team to go to those meetings. And I was doing a lot in the beginning. Because it was, it would eat into their billable time. Right? And so I would leave them in the office and I would go to the meetings. But you’re right, like you miss the nuance. You miss the context. I would go to the meetings. I would create the proposal. I would sell it, I would close it, and then I would hand it off. And my team was like, they weren’t bought in. They didn’t understand. They may have had their own ideas that, you know, I hadn’t had on my own. The client always felt like, well, I wanna work with you because you were in the room and that’s who we bought, and now you’re having… So it was just like, it was a hard lesson for me to have to learn. But, you know, it’s, it’s a good lesson and I think if you can avoid some of those mistakes, that’s a good way to, to think about it. Because yes, it’s not billable and yes, your team still has to, if you’re, you know, tracking billable hours and capacity and all that, they still have to do that. But you can reduce their percentage that they have to get because they’re participating in new business and they will have ideas as well. Like I, I had a boss earlier in my career who was so smart, and he was a great idea guy. Like, he would go in and he could see a client’s problem or a prospect’s problem immediately, and he would say, okay, this is how you need to solve it. And he’d be like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And when I wasn’t in the room, he would sell all of that stuff. But we didn’t have the capability to do it. Chip Griffin: Yep. Gini Dietrich: And so once I sat in the room, I literally would kick him under the table if he started to sell something we couldn’t do because he would sell stuff that, yeah, it should have been done, but the agency didn’t have the internal capability to be able to do it. And so I started. I, I invited myself to new business meetings so that I could literally sit on, sit across from him and I would kick him underneath the table every time he started to, to sell something that we couldn’t do. And, you know, so all to say that there is an opportunity for your team to help, not just, not that you’re necessarily doing that, but for your team to help but also understand and be bought into the process. And from a client’s perspective, they’re buying the team. They’re buying the people, and a lot of it is chemistry. A lot of it is whether or not I can work with these people. So you wanna have those people in the room. Chip Griffin: It’s, it’s funny when you, when you talk about selling things that you don’t do and you kicking under the table, because I, I had a business partner who, he sort of, reveled in the ability to sell things that we didn’t currently have the capability to do. And then we would walk out of the meeting and he’d kind of have a twinkle in his eye and look over at me and say, do you like how I did that? He’s like, you can do that, right? I’m like, so I’ll be figuring it out now. Gini Dietrich: I mean, we’ll figure it out! Chip Griffin: Because I was the one who owned the figuring it out part. He was the one who leaned into the selling part. Gini Dietrich: Yes. Chip Griffin: So, it certainly made for some, some interesting times. But, but we always seemed to come out okay. Which unfortunately encouraged him to continue doing that. Gini Dietrich: Of course it did. Yes. Chip Griffin: You know, it is what it is. But okay, so, you know, we, we really thought through who we’ve got in the room. Now. Let’s think about how do we actually prepare the presentation or the, really the discussion, because I think we think of these things as presentations, but more often than not, I mean, this is not, you know, you’re not getting up and, and doing an audition on stage where you’ve got, you know, the director, producer, whatever, they’re taking notes and making a decision. It should be more of a dialogue in most cases. So. How do you think about preparing for these, setting the agenda for them, preparing your team for the conversation so that it doesn’t become just, you know, we’re gonna just, you know, do a death march through PowerPoint slides, split up over four people over the next, you know, 60 minutes and there’s no time for conversation at all. Gini Dietrich: Oh, yeah, no, that’s, we, we do not do that. So one of the things that we do is, is typically there is a relationship internally that somebody already has with the prospect. And so that person sort of leads the conversation, right? They make the introductions, they kind of set the agenda. They are the ones that sort of lead the agenda in the conversation. Our chief revenue officer has like a 12 minute, I’d say it’s 12 to 15 minute deck that he goes through that just introduces most, almost everybody knows PESO. So we just kind of give a high level… Like, and it’s a really, it’s a really nice, it’s not a dog and pony show. It’s not a capabilities presentation. It’s more like this is what we know about you and the pain points we see that you have, and here’s how PESO solves it kind of thing. And then we open it up for, for conversations. And so usually the point of contact, the day-to-day person that would be, their day-to-day manages that piece. So it’s a lot of us asking questions and, you know, really listening and taking notes and understanding. And then the person who has the relationship wraps it up at the end and does the follow up. So it’s usually, I would say it’s usually three to five of us, depending on how many on their side. And that’s typically how we set up the agenda is based on that. Chip Griffin: Yeah, I think it’s really smart to have whoever has the best relationship, be the person who is effectively managing the meeting, because that, that generally is gonna improve the comfort level on the other side of the table. And so, you know, you might as well lean into that unless for some reason it would be really weird, right? I mean, maybe it’s some super junior person who happens to just be, you know, friends with or used to work with someone. I mean, you know, maybe in those cases you don’t, but in the vast majority of cases where that relationship exists, you should take advantage of that. And, you know, certainly lean into that. I think the other important thing is to, to think through how you, you spread the conversation around so that everybody feels like there’s a reason for being there, both on your side and theirs, right? You don’t want someone on your side to feel like, well, what was the point? Why did I even have to waste my time coming here or showing up for the call, depending on what it is. But I, you know, so part of that is, is you as the leader, trying to think through how do you make sure that you don’t consume all the oxygen? Because I think there’s a real tendency on a lot of owner’s parts to just jump in because they probably do have an answer to most of the questions that would come up in these sessions. It’s gonna be rare in I think most cases that you couldn’t give that answer in that one hour session that you’ve probably got. But you have to, to find a way to make sure that you’re weaving your team in. And if you’ve brought in an expert in paid media or something like that, and a paid media question comes up, resist the urge to answer yourself Uhhuh and bring your paid expert in to talk about that. When you’re doing the overall presentation, spread it around and let them talk about their areas of expertise. But do make sure they understand what their limits are, because we all have those team members, and maybe it’s us, maybe it’s one of our team members, who just likes to keep going. Gini Dietrich: Uh-huh. Chip Griffin: We, I mean, I see this repeatedly where you get someone on one of these calls and you know you’ve told ’em they’ve got three minutes, 30 minutes later, they’re still going uhhuh because they’re just so excited about whatever they’re talking about. You’ve gotta manage that bit of it so that you have the right spread of discussion. Yes, and information dissemination in those meetings. Gini Dietrich: Yes. I know some of those, I’ll tell you that shutting up and letting your team answer questions is probably one of the hardest jobs you have. And they’re going to answer it in a way that you necessarily wouldn’t. Or sometimes the prospect will ask a question and they do like the runaround, and you can tell they don’t really know the answer and they’re waiting to be saved and you can’t really save them. But they don’t really answer the question, and so you have to figure out a way to sort of wrap it in a bow. It is literally one of the hardest things that you could do. And for those of you on video, I have a, a notebook full of notes where I sit in those meetings and I just, every time I want to interject, I just, and I just write down so that I can provide feedback later. But I’m telling you, it is so challenging, so challenging. Chip Griffin: And it, I would absolutely agree with you. It is one of the most difficult things that I had to learn as I was running teams. But I, I eventually did get to that point where I, I felt like I was pretty good at being able to decide, is this so important that it’s worth me interjecting, correcting, whatever it may be. Because there are times, I mean, you should never just completely zip it and, and let the wrong impression be left or something like that. If you, if you know that it needs clean up on aisle six, just a little yeah, clean up on aisle six, please. But it, but if it’s just not exactly the way you would do it or it’s really, it’s inconsequential to the outcome of the meeting, let it go. Because the more you talk, it does two things. First of all. Well, it does three things really. It undermines the confidence of your team member. Yep. It undermines the confidence of the client in your team. Gini Dietrich: Yep. Chip Griffin: And it also puts you in a position where you are putting yourself as more necessary to the ongoing success of the relationship. And none of those things are good. Gini Dietrich: Not good at all. Yeah, it’s super, super challenging, but I think it’s one of the things that you have to work on. And so one of the things that we do after a meeting is we do a debrief. Right. And I will, I will say, this was great, this was great. This was great. I probably would’ve answered this a little bit differently, and here’s why. You know, and I, I give them the immediate feedback so that they can, and eventually what happens is you start to run like a well-oiled machine, right? But you have to be able to do those things, and every time you hire someone new and bring them into that process, you kind of have to build that well-oiled machine again. And so it’s a constant funnel of having to provide feedback and, you know, take really good notes. And of course AI can take notes for you, but you’ll see things that AI won’t, right? Yeah. That you just wanna jot down. And really providing that instant feedback so that you’re doing that debrief and you’re starting to build that really well oiled machines so that eventually there have been a couple of newbies, the business meetings where I’ve been like, why was I there? I was not needed. Right. And that’s what you wanna get to. Chip Griffin: Absolutely. And I, I think these, you know, having, having meetings afterwards are important. I think having meetings before, so don’t, don’t of course, yes. Throw everybody in. Gini Dietrich: Yes, yes. Yes. Hundred percent. Chip Griffin: There’s a happy balance there too. Yes, because I’ve, I’ve seen a lot of these prep sessions go off the rails because it turns into almost a skit and so, you know. There is a point of too much preparation and so you certainly need to have conversations beforehand. Who’s gonna do what, what are we generally gonna say? Are there any, you know, third rails that we should try to avoid here in this conversation? You know, share that information in advance, particularly for team members who may not be used to those kinds of conversations so that they kind of know, you know, what those guardrails are. But try to avoid scripting it out so heavily that it does come across like you’re doing a school play. Yeah. Because I have been part of those. Mm-hmm. I have seen, I’ve had those presentations made to me. They are mind numbing. It has to be, it has to feel like you’re having a human expert conversation. Yeah. And it should not feel like, you know, I’ve got three and a half minutes and I’ve timed it down exactly like that. And if anything comes up, I’m gonna be, you know, lost because now you’ve knocked me off of my course and I’m gonna hand it right over to you. I mean, treat it like a human conversation. And I think that’s gonna be the way you get the best result. Gini Dietrich: And I will end this by saying that is 100% accurate. We have several clients who are going through the agency of record interview process right now. And because we’re the PESO integrators, we’re part of that process. And, first of all, every large agency, every single one does exactly what you just said. They come in, they’re well rehearsed. They’re well practiced. They each have their part, they’ve memorized it all, and they spend an hour going through a capability stack. And it is mind numbing. Like you just, you’re just like, oh my gosh. They don’t ask questions. They don’t try to better understand what the opportunity is, none of that. And then when it gets to the q and a, they don’t have answers because they didn’t practice that part. And so one of the things I think that sets a small agency apart from a large one is being able to diagnose the problem, being able to ask the questions and really have a conversation. Instead of doing a dog and pony show. It’s gonna be so much more appreciated because now you’re treating yourselves like their partner instead of their vendor who’s just coming in and being like, wah wah wah wah wah. Chip Griffin: And, and it helps your team too because they’re, they’ll be in a better position to handle the questions if, if everybody is so prepared. Yes. It tends to make the q and a session really difficult because Gini Dietrich: it’s very difficult. Chip Griffin: People feel so locked in to what they’ve pre-prepared that anything outside of that they may not have the confidence to handle. So, yeah. Obviously every team is different. Every individual is different. You gotta figure out how to get the most from them, but in general, drive it towards actual human conversation. Not a school play. Gini Dietrich: Yeah, it works every single time. Chip Griffin: Indeed. So with that, hopefully we’ve given you some good tips for your next group presentation to a prospect, a client, or whomever. And, please do, tune into the next episode. In the meantime, I’m Chip Griffin. Gini Dietrich: I’m Gini Dietrich Chip Griffin: and it depends.

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