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The Sound Off Podcast
Rob Greenlee: Human-Hosted in an AI World

The Sound Off Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 8, 2026 44:15


I welcome back Rob Greenlee for a discussion about how podcasting is changing under the weight of new media, big platforms, and AI. Rob and I talk about how the real battle lines are drawn around who controls distribution and audience, as companies like YouTube and Spotify push proprietary ecosystems while RSS still quietly powers most of my downloads.We look back at the early days of video podcasting, why big media walked away from video in RSS, and how HLS video might reconnect audio and video so listeners can move seamlessly between car, phone, and TV.Rob and I also dig into how AI is reshaping production—from tools like Descript that automate editing and repurposing, to the emerging world of AI hosts and cloned voices. Throughout, we keep coming back to what matters most in podcasting: trust, transparency, and being clear about how we use AI with our audiences.For a complete summary about what Rob belives in the current status of podcasting - please check out his website.Please sign up for the SOUNDING OFF Newsletter. All the things that went unsaid on the show.Also we added the Sound Off Podcast to the The Open Podcast Prefix Project (OP3) A free and open-source podcast prefix analytics service committed to open data and listener privacy. You can be a nosey parker by checking out our downloads here.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

New Media Show (Video)
Are Podcast Networks becoming Creator Networks? | Greg Wasserman #666

New Media Show (Video)

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 8, 2026 Transcription Available


In episode 666 of the New Media Show, hosted by 2017 Podcast Hall of Famer Rob Greenlee, Rob talks with Greg Wasserman, Head of Relationships at RSS.com and host of Podcast Network Insights, for a deep conversation about one of the biggest questions facing podcasting, video, creator media, and digital networks right now: Podcast networks were originally built for an audio-first industry, but audiences have already moved the definition of a podcast beyond audio. Today, a podcast can be a YouTube show, a Spotify video, an Apple video podcast, a livestream, a short clip, a newsletter, a community, or part of a larger creator-led media brand. Greg brings a unique perspective from his work at RSS.com and from interviewing the leaders behind podcast networks, collectives, production companies, and niche media groups on Podcast Network Insights. He explains that podcast networks are no longer one simple model. Some are media-sales businesses. Some are community-driven groups. Some operate more like production companies, collectives, or full creator networks. Rob and Greg explore how the network model is shifting as video, live streaming, AI, Apple Podcasts, HLS video, YouTube, Netflix, Spotify, FAST channels, private communities, and creator monetization reshape what podcasting can become. The conversation also asks whether independent podcasters should join networks, what creators need to understand before making that decision, and why the future may depend less on downloads alone and more on trust, audience relationships, collaboration, niche value, and direct monetization. 00:00 Welcome to New Media Show #666 00:32 Are podcast networks becoming creator networks? 01:00 How audiences have already redefined podcasting 02:00 Introducing Greg Wasserman from RSS.com 03:00 Why Greg created Podcast Network Insights 04:00 How different podcast networks define community 05:00 Monetization, growth, and the changing role of networks 06:00 Internal network community vs audience community 07:00 Private communities, subscriptions, and audience relationships 08:00 Nova Podcast Network and media-company network models 09:00 Cross-promotion and collaboration inside networks 10:00 Are creators returning to collaboration? 11:00 Podcast networks as media companies 13:00 Owned-and-operated shows vs independent rev-share shows 15:00 Why ad revenue is not the only network business model 16:00 Marketing Podcast Network and niche value 17:00 Jay Shetty, Netflix, and platform exclusivity 18:00 Is Netflix becoming a podcast network? 19:00 Collectives, media companies, and different network definitions 20:00 What is a podcast network today? 21:00 Production companies and network partnerships 23:00 How creators should decide whether to join a network 24:00 Understanding your “why” before joining a network 25:00 iHeart, ad inventory, and the volume-based network model 26:00 Why sponsor status can distract from real monetization 27:00 Does network branding still matter? 28:00 Pineapple Street, GZM, Disney, and network identity 30:00 MCNs, YouTube networks, and the return of multi-channel networks 31:00 Silicon Valley, new media networks, and digital-native media 34:00 Traditional media adopts podcasting, video, and companion content 35:00 Apple Podcasts HLS video as a future distribution channel 36:00 Why video attracts higher media dollars 37:00 Know, like, and trust as a creator value 38:00 Will Apple Podcasts HLS video matter? 39:00 Free platforms, hidden costs, and creator control 41:00 Future ad dashboards across Spotify, Apple, YouTube, and Twitch 42:00 Platform exclusivity, Jay Shetty, Joe Rogan, and audience loss 44:00 Creator hustle and why networks cannot do all the work 46:00 Subscription fatigue and fragmented media access 47:00 More than 20 ways creators can make money 48:00 Lean creator teams, production help, and content scale 49:00 How podcast networks are using AI 50:00 AI-generated voices, sleep content, and audience behavior 52:00 AI for ads, scripts, show notes, social, and workflows 53:00 AI podcast networks and automated show creation 54:00 Agentic workflows and creator production systems 56:00 AI-generated content, humanity, and audience trust 57:00 Algorithms, AI interfaces, and future discovery 58:00 Platform algorithm changes and creator risk 59:00 Human connection, live events, and AI video podcasts 01:00:00 Why human storytelling still matters 01:01:00 Could creators build AI clones of themselves? 01:02:00 Avatars, HeyGen, Gemini, and disclosure 01:03:00 Human-hosted content labels and AI transparency 01:04:00 Video-first creators and separate audio/video feeds 01:05:00 Why The New Media Show still uses separate audio and video feeds 01:06:00 Audio-first creators, social media, and growth challenges 01:07:00 Different networks play different games 01:08:00 The future of compelling audio experiences 01:09:00 Spatial audio, AI audio, and interactive media 01:10:00 Personalized audience experiences and liquid content 01:11:00 Can audiences be moved from YouTube to Netflix? 01:12:00 Bundling, subscriptions, and platform experiments 01:15:00 Algorithms vs human curation 01:16:00 Netflix, FAST channels, and new distribution models 01:17:00 The technology challenge behind FAST channels 01:23:00 Greg's Tesla and the future of in-car video podcast listening 01:24:00 RSS.com, Podcasting 2.0, and AI labeling standards 01:25:00 Closing thoughts and where podcasting is heading Guest and Host Links Guest: Greg Wasserman Head of Relationships at RSS.com and host of Podcast Network Insights RSS.com: https://rss.com Greg Wasserman at RSS.com: https://rss.com/blog/greg-wasserman/ Podcast Network Insights: https://rss.com/podcasts/podcast-network-insights/ Greg Wasserman on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregwasserman Host: Rob Greenlee New Media Show: https://newmediashow.com Rob Greenlee: https://robgreenlee.com Podcast Hall of Fame: https://podcasthall.com Rob Greenlee on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robgreenlee Rob Greenlee Booking: https://calendly.com/robgreenlee About the Host/Author: Rob Greenlee is a 2017 Podcast Hall of Fame inductee and Chair, a global new-media leader who bridges podcasting's human roots and its AI-driven future. As founder of Trust Factor Lab and host of the “New Media Show” and “Spoken Human”, Rob helps creators start, grow, monetize, and future-proof their content. He's held leadership roles at Microsoft, Spreaker, Libsyn, StreamYard, and PodcastOne, and serves as Chairperson of the Podcast Hall of Fame. Learn more at RobGreenlee.com and join the Trust Factor Lab Creator/Podcast Services. Personal/AI Disclosure Note: I used AI tools to help organize and edit this episode and generate show notes. I have made hand edits; the views, clarifications, responsibility, and industry perspective are mine and my guest's. I have been working in podcasting and platform adoption for more than two decades, and this article reflects my own position.The post Are Podcast Networks becoming Creator Networks? | Greg Wasserman #666 first appeared on New Media Show.

New Media Show (Video)
What Is New Media Now vs Podcasting? | Ashley Christenson / @Ashni #665

New Media Show (Video)

Play Episode Listen Later May 31, 2026


In episode 665 of the New Media Show, hosted by 2017 Podcast Hall of Famer Rob Greenlee, Rob talks with Ashley Christenson, also known as Ashni, for a deep conversation about one of the most important questions facing podcasting, streaming, creator media, startups, and traditional media right now: What does “New Media” actually mean today? The term “New Media” has been around since the late 1990s, but its meaning is shifting again. What once described digital media outside traditional broadcast and print is now being used by creators, VCs, startups, streaming strategists, AI companies, and professional communities to refer to something more specific: creator-led media that builds trust, influence, industry position, and direct audience relationships. Ashley brings a unique perspective from 13 years in online media, Twitch streaming, YouTube education, startup marketing, community building, and creator strategy. She explains that she sees the creator economy as building an audience as the asset, whereas the emerging version of New Media is more about building status and position within an industry conversation. In her view, the key difference is not simply between consumer and professional audiences, but about what the media operation is designed to build and protect. Rob brings the longer history of podcasting and digital media into the discussion, asking whether podcasting was one of the first major expressions of New Media and whether it now sits within a much larger creator-led ecosystem. The conversation explores how podcasting, YouTube, streaming video, newsletters, live shows, X, AI-generated content, and Apple Podcasts' move toward HLS video streaming are all blurring the old lines between podcasting, creator media, and professional media. A major theme in this episode is whether podcasting is still its own category or has become a powerful format within the broader New Media industry. Rob argues that the word “podcast” is increasingly defined by audiences and platforms, while creators may need to think more broadly as show builders, media operators, and participants in the creator economy. Ashley and Rob also explore how X is becoming a real-time professional media layer, why founders, investors, executives, and AI builders are returning to the platform, and why companies are experimenting with live streaming, clipping, launch videos, short-form content, and creator-style formats to reach professional audiences. The episode also moves into AI-generated media, human-hosted content, AI clones, disclosure, and trust. Rob argues that human-created and AI-created content may both need clear labeling, while Ashley points out that long-form podcasts may remain more defensible because listeners often build real relationships with hosts over time. This conversation lands on a bigger media reality: New Media is no longer just a technology term. It is becoming a business category, a creator category, a trust category, and a professional influence category. Podcasting helped build the foundation, but the next version of New Media is broader, more video-driven, more AI-assisted, more platform-diverse, and more dependent on trust than ever before. Key Topics: What “New Media” means in 2026 Creator economy vs. New Media Audience as an asset vs. status as an asset Why podcasting helped define early New Media Whether podcasters should now think more like creators and show builders Apple Podcasts HLS video and the return of video podcasting YouTube, Spotify, X, and the platform shift around shows Why VCs and startups are using the term New Media X is a professional media and live content platform Traditional media is trying to become more internet-native AI-generated podcasts, AI clones, and synthetic media Human-hosted content, disclosure, and audience trust Why long-form podcasts may remain defensible in the AI era Chapter Markers: 00:00 Cold Open and Welcome 00:32 What Does New Media Mean 02:08 Podcasting Meets Multi Format 03:14 Meet Rob Greenlee 04:01 Introducing Ashley Christensen 04:53 Ashley’s Creator Economy Journey 08:26 AI Definitions of New Media 12:35 Creator Economy vs New Media 16:29 The Kill Switch Test 21:38 Is VC Rebranding New Media 24:10 Niche Status Media Examples 31:55 Traditional Media Goes Internet Native 34:59 Podcasting Identity and Convergence 41:35 Creator as a Catch-All Term 43:56 Naming New Media 46:11 Podcast Term Debate 51:02 X Shapes Media 55:35 X Video Creator Push 01:00:51 Twitter Podcast Roots 01:04:38 AI Flooding Podcasts 01:07:48 Human Trust Labels 01:11:34 Clones and Disclosure 01:17:49 Trust Factor Wrap 01:18:19 Closing and Where to Follow Guest and Host Links Guest: Ashley Christenson / Ashni Streaming strategist, creator economy, and new media operator X: https://x.com/ashnichrist YouTube: https://youtube.com/@ashnichrist Hype Partners: https://x.com/hypepartners Host: Rob Greenlee New Media Show: https://newmediashow.com Rob Greenlee: https://robgreenlee.com Podcast Hall of Fame: https://podcasthall.com Rob Greenlee on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robgreenlee Rob Greenlee Booking: https://calendly.com/robgreenlee About the Host/Author: Rob Greenlee is a 2017 Podcast Hall of Fame inductee and Chair, a global new-media leader who bridges podcasting's human roots and its AI-driven future. As founder of Trust Factor Lab and host of the “New Media Show” and “Spoken Human”, Rob helps creators start, grow, monetize, and future-proof their content. He's held leadership roles at Microsoft, Spreaker, Libsyn, StreamYard, and PodcastOne, and serves as Chairperson of the Podcast Hall of Fame. Learn more at RobGreenlee.com and join the Trust Factor Lab Creator/Podcast Services. Personal/AI Disclosure Note: I used AI tools to help organize and edit this episode and generate show notes. I have many hand edits; the views, clarifications, responsibility, and industry perspective are mine and my guests’. I have been working in podcasting and platform adoption for more than two decades, and this article reflects my own position. The original word choice was mine, and so is the clarification. The post What Is New Media Now vs Podcasting? | Ashley Christenson / @Ashni #665 first appeared on New Media Show.

The Podcasting Morning Chat
513. Why Independent Podcasters Are Losing Control

The Podcasting Morning Chat

Play Episode Listen Later May 8, 2026 46:16


Independent podcasters are slowly losing control of their reach. In this episode, the PMS cast and crew talk with podcasting veteran Rob Greenlee about RSS, platform control, and AI-generated content. They explore why creators are being pushed into closed systems, how video and API distribution could erode podcasting's open foundation, and why trust keeps surfacing as the real problem underneath everything. The conversation also covers AI creeping into production, cloned voices, and the feeling many creators share when the tools move faster than they can keep up. You won't leave with easy answers, but you'll probably think differently about who actually owns your audience and your future in podcasting.Episode Highlights:[01:51] Rob Greenlee Joins[02:10] Podcasting 2.0 Fringe Debate[04:55] Podcasting 2.0 Explained[08:49] Rob's Podcasting Origin Story[11:40] Is RSS Still the Heart?[14:57] APIs, HLS, and Platform Control[24:58] What This Means for Indies[28:15] AI in Podcasting: Trust and Slop[37:16] Disclosure and Labeling Standards[43:49] Wins of the Week Wrap-UpLinks & Resources:Content Creators Accountant:contentcreatorsaccountant.comAI disclosure guidance site:shouldidisclose.aiFeature Your Podcast on the Podcasting Morning Show:https://PodcastingMorningShow.com/spotlightThe Podcasting Morning Show:⁠⁠www.podcastingmorningshow.com⁠⁠Ways to Watch or Listen:⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.podcastingmorningshow.com/joinus/Meet the PMS Cast and Crew:⁠⁠https://podcastingmorningshow.com/people⁠⁠Join The Empowered Podcasting Facebook Group:⁠⁠www.facebook.com/groups/empoweredpodcasting⁠⁠⁠Book A Free Call With Marc:https://calendly.com/ironickmedia/freestrategycallApplication To Submit Your Show For Evaluation:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcastingmorningshow.com/eval⁠⁠Join us every other Monday at 8 AM ET for the Obsession Worthy Podcasts:⁠⁠⁠http://podcastingmorningshow.com/owp/⁠⁠Join us LIVE every weekday morning at 8 am ET (US) on ⁠Clubhouse⁠: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcastingmorningshow.com/clubhouse⁠⁠EPC3 Speaker Application:⁠⁠ ⁠https://empoweredpodcasting.com/speakersPowered by⁠⁠⁠ ⁠iRonickMedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ and⁠ ⁠ContentCreatorsAccountant.com⁠⁠Send in your mailbag questions:⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.podcastingmorningshow.com/contact/⁠⁠⁠⁠ or ⁠marc@ironickmedia.com⁠Want to be a guest on The Podcasting Morning Show? Send me a message on PodMatch, here:https://podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/1729879899384520035bad21b

New Media Show (Video)
Can Indie Podcasters and Media Creators Still Win? | Dave Jackson #661

New Media Show (Video)

Play Episode Listen Later May 2, 2026


On Episode 661 of The New Media Show, host Rob Greenlee, 2017 Podcast Hall of Fame inductee, Chairperson of the Podcast Hall of Fame, and longtime new media executive, is joined by Dave Jackson, 2018 Podcast Hall of Fame inductee, founder of School of Podcasting, and Head of Podcasting at Podpage.com, for a deep conversation about whether independent podcasters and media creators can still win in today's rapidly changing creator economy. This episode centers on a question many creators are quietly asking right now: Can indie podcasters still grow, monetize, and build trust in a market being reshaped by video, AI, platform control, and professionalized media production? Rob and Dave discuss the recent combination of Podpage and School of Podcasting, why podcast education matters more than ever, and how websites, email lists, communities, video, RSS, and AI-assisted workflows are becoming essential parts of a creator's survival strategy. Dave joined Podpage as Head of Podcasting in 2024, and School of Podcasting has been helping creators launch, grow, and monetize podcasts since 2005.  The conversation also moves into some of the biggest issues facing podcasting and new media in 2026, including AI-generated shows, human voice and video cloning, creator burnout, YouTube's influence on podcast identity, Apple's HLS video podcast direction, and why human trust may become the most valuable asset creators have left. Rob and Dave bring decades of experience to this discussion. Both have seen podcasting shift through multiple technology waves, from the early RSS era to platform consolidation, video podcasting, AI tools, and the rise of creator-led media. That history makes this episode a practical and honest look at what indie creators need to do now to stay relevant, trusted, and discoverable. What does this episode cover? Can independent podcasters still succeed in a noisier, more competitive market? What does “winning” even mean now: downloads, money, trust, community, authority, or sustainability? Why the Podpage and School of Podcasting connection matters for podcast education and creator websites Why podcasters need a home base beyond social platforms and YouTube How AI is changing show notes, images, writing, research, production, and creator workflows Why AI-generated content should not all be treated as spam, but fraud and abuse must be addressed How human storytelling, lived experience, and trust help creators stand apart from AI content Why video is becoming harder to ignore, but audio-only creators should not panic How YouTube has changed public perception of what a podcast is What Apple's HLS video direction could mean for audio, video, RSS, and creator workflows Why websites, email lists, communities, and audience ownership still matter How indie creators can avoid burnout while adapting to new media expectations Key Takeaways: Indie podcasters can still win, but the definition of winning has changed. Creators need more than a microphone and a media host. They need clarity, a trusted point of view, a website, a distribution plan, and a realistic path to audience growth. AI is not going away. The smartest creators will learn how to use it without losing their human voice. Video will continue reshaping podcasting, but not every creator has to become a full-scale video studio overnight. Human-created content still has a powerful advantage when it is rooted in story, experience, transparency, and trust. Websites are becoming more important again because creators need a stable home base that is not controlled by a single platform. Podcast education matters because the barrier to starting is low, but the barrier to standing out is much higher. Guest Dave Jackson Founder, School of Podcasting Head of Podcasting, Podpage.com 2018 Podcast Hall of Fame inductee Author of Profit From Your Podcast Dave Jackson has been helping creators launch and improve podcasts since 2005 through the School of Podcasting. He is also Head of Podcasting at Podpage, where he supports podcasters using websites as a central hub for discovery, audience ownership, and long-term growth. (The School of Podcasting) Guest links: School of Podcasting: https://www.schoolofpodcasting.com/ Podpage: https://www.podpage.com/ Dave Jackson: https://davidjackson.org/ Podcast Consultant: https://www.podcastconsultant.com/ Host Rob Greenlee Host, The New Media Show Podcast Hall of Fame inductee Chairperson, Podcast Hall of Fame Founder, Trust Factor Lab and Adore Network Co-Founder, Passion Struck Network Host and show links: New Media Show: https://newmediashow.com/ Rob Greenlee: https://robgreenlee.com/ Podcast Hall of Fame: https://podcasthall.com/ Adore Network: https://adorenetwork.com/ Trust Factor Lab: https://trustfactorlab.com/ Passion Struck Network: https://passionstrucknetwork.com/ Rob on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robgreenlee/ Bottom Line in this Episode: This episode answers a major creator economy question for 2026: Can indie podcasters and independent media creators still compete as podcasting becomes more professional, more video-driven, and more influenced by AI? Rob Greenlee and Dave Jackson explain why the answer is yes, but only if creators evolve. The winning indie creator now needs a clear purpose, a strong human voice, trusted expertise, a discoverable website, owned audience channels, thoughtful use of AI, and a strategy that works across audio, video, search, social, and community. The episode is especially useful for podcasters, YouTube creators, podcast consultants, media educators, creator economy leaders, podcast hosting companies, AI media startups, and independent showrunners trying to understand the next phase of podcasting and new media.The post Can Indie Podcasters and Media Creators Still Win? | Dave Jackson #661 first appeared on New Media Show.

New Media Show (Video)
Libsyn's Next Chapter: Podcast Hosting, Video, Monetization, RSS and API | Brendan Monaghan #660

New Media Show (Video)

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 23, 2026


“Podcast episode hosting used to be simple. You uploaded an audio file, generated an RSS feed, and distributed your show everywhere. That model still matters, but it is no longer enough for the modern creator economy.” In this Episode 660 of The Live New Media Show, from April 22nd, 2026, Host Podcast Hall of Famer and Former Libsyn VP Rob Greenlee shares a screen and microphone with Brendan Monaghan, President and CEO of Libsyn, to explore how podcast hosting is changing and what creators should expect from platforms in 2026 and beyond. This conversation gets to the heart of a major shift happening across podcasting and new media. Hosting companies are no longer judged only by whether they can deliver a clean RSS feed and reliable file storage. Creators now expect monetization, analytics, video support, workflow efficiency, AI-assisted publishing, broader distribution, and real help with audience growth. That larger shift frames the entire discussion between Rob and Brendan. Brendan explains that Libsyn still carries the legacy of being one of podcasting's earliest and most important hosting platforms, but the company is now operating in a far more complex environment. Brendan points to Libsyn's evolution from a technology-led hosting company into a broader creator platform that includes advertising and monetization infrastructure, especially after the company acquired businesses such as AdvertiseCast and Pair Networks. He argues that the modern hosting business must combine publishing, monetization, measurement, and simplicity for creators at every stage of growth. Rob pushes the conversation further by asking the bigger industry question: What should a podcast hosting company become now? That leads into a wide-ranging discussion about platform aggregation, creator workflows, newsletters, live events, merchandise, and the growing expectation that creators should be able to manage more of their media business from one place. Brendan makes the case that the future belongs to companies that can keep creators at the center while simplifying the growing complexity around distribution and monetization. A major part of the episode focuses on AI. Brendan breaks AI into three areas: how Libsyn uses it internally as a business, how AI can assist creators with production and publishing workflows, and how fully AI-generated content may affect the medium’s future. Rob adds a deeper perspective by arguing that AI podcasting is already becoming more competitive than many in the industry want to admit. The two discuss whether the market will ultimately decide what AI content succeeds, why “AI slop” may be too broad a label, and why trust and disclosure may become much more important as synthetic media becomes harder to distinguish from human-created work. The episode also dives into one of the most important strategic tensions in podcasting right now: RSS versus API publishing. Rob and Brendan both acknowledge that most creators care more about simple distribution than the underlying protocol, but they also recognize that this shift has major implications for openness, platform control, and long-term creator independence. Their exchange about Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and the shift toward more controlled video delivery models reflects a broader market reality: creators increasingly want to be everywhere, but the mechanics of getting there are becoming more fragmented and platform-specific. Another strong section of the conversation centers on video. Brendan says Libsyn intends to be a leader in video, while Rob raises a practical concern many creators are just beginning to feel: a show that works well on YouTube may not automatically translate well to an audio-first experience, and a show built for traditional audio may not fully satisfy video-driven discovery environments. That raises the possibility that creators will need to think more deliberately about format, audience expectations, and whether a single production workflow can truly serve all platforms equally well. The conversation becomes especially valuable when the two discuss metrics: Apple's HLS direction, and what streaming-style delivery might mean for podcast measurement and advertising. They point to a future in which the industry may move closer to actual listening signals rather than relying so heavily on download-based assumptions. If that happens, it could affect CPMs, ad sales, programmatic video advertising, and the broader economics of the medium. Rob also frames one of the biggest unresolved questions in new media today: If AI-generated shows become easier, faster, and more polished, what will human creators need to do to remain distinct and trusted? The answer that emerges from this episode is not panic. It is focus, transparency, stronger format thinking, and a deeper commitment to serving audiences with clarity and value. That makes this episode less about Libsyn alone and more about the future structure of podcasting itself. Topic Chapters and Timestamps 00:00 Podcast hosting is no longer simple 01:00 What creators now expect from hosting platforms 02:00 Brendan Monaghan introduction and background 03:00 Why Libsyn's legacy still matters 05:00 Hosting, publishing, monetization, and measurement 07:00 How Libsyn expanded its monetization business 08:00 Why creators should not need to leave Libsyn to scale 09:00 How monetization changed podcasting 10:00 Lowering barriers for creators to earn revenue 12:00 What the future hosting platform should become 13:00 Newsletters, live events, merchandise, and creator tools 15:00 AI and creator workflows 16:00 Brendan's three-bucket view of AI 18:00 AI-generated content and the “AI slop” debate 20:00 Why the market may decide what AI content wins 23:00 RSS versus API publishing 25:00 Simplicity and multi-platform distribution 26:00 Why RSS matters less to end users now 28:00 Open versus closed ecosystems 29:00 RSS innovation and slow adoption 31:00 Apple HLS and changing audio-video delivery 32:00 Platform control and the walled garden debate 41:00 Measurement, streaming, and actual listening data 43:00 Programmatic video ads and creative formats 45:00 Why video creators may need to think more like audio creators 47:00 Can AI help bridge the gap between formats? 49:00 Audio loyalty versus video momentum 50:00 The growing pressure on creators to win everywhere 51:00 AI Algorithms, the first audience for human content 53:00 Are AI-generated shows driving growth? 55:00 AI clone content and rising competition for humans 56:00 Why AI labeling may become essential 59:00 What Libsyn will focus on over the next 24 months 01:01:00 Audio, video, audience growth, and execution 01:03:00 Staying focused on core creator needs 01:05:00 Closing thoughts This episode answers key industry questions that creators, executives, and media strategists are increasingly asking: -What is Libsyn doing next under Brendan Monaghan? -How is podcast hosting changing in 2026? -Will video become a required part of podcast distribution? -What does Apple's HLS move mean for audio and video podcasting? -Is RSS still the future, or are APIs taking over? -How will AI-generated content affect podcasting, trust, and monetization? -What should creators expect from modern hosting platforms now? -Those questions are directly addressed in this discussion, making this episode highly relevant to search, social discovery, AI answer engines, and recommendation surfaces. Guest and Show Links Brendan Monaghan, CEO of Libsyn https://Libsyn.com Host Rob Greenlee and Show LinksNew Media Show: https://newmediashow.com/Rob Greenlee: https://robgreenlee.com/Trust Factor Lab: https://trustfactorlab.com/Adore Creator Network: https://adorenetwork.com/Podcast Hall of Fame: https://podcasthall.com/Rob Greenlee YouTube: https://youtube.com/@robgreenleeRob Greenlee LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/robgreenleeRob Greenlee Instagram: https://instagram.com/robwgreenleeThe post Libsyn's Next Chapter: Podcast Hosting, Video, Monetization, RSS and API | Brendan Monaghan #660 first appeared on New Media Show.

New Media Show (Video)
Podcasting's Multi-Format Future | Sharon Taylor #659

New Media Show (Video)

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 16, 2026


Podcasting is entering a new phase, and this episode goes straight into the infrastructure, business models, and platform shifts shaping what comes next. On episode 659 of The New Media Show, Host and Podcast Hall of Famer Rob Greenlee shares the microphone with Sharon Taylor, Chief Revenue Officer at Triton Digital (Spreaker & Omny Studio), for a deep conversation about where the podcasting market is heading right now. Sharon brings years of experience from Omny Studio, Triton Digital, and Spreaker, making her one of the best people to help unpack what is changing across hosting, monetization, video, AI, advertiser demand, and measurement. We talk through why podcasting is not simply becoming video-first, even as video becomes a bigger part of how shows are discovered and monetized. Sharon makes a strong case that audio remains at the center of the medium, but the future is clearly becoming more multi-format. That means creators, publishers, and platforms need to think differently about how they distribute content, measure audience behavior, and build sustainable business models for both audio and video. A big part of this conversation focuses on Triton Digital's role in the market today and why its combination of Omny Studio, Spreaker, and broader ad tech infrastructure makes it an important player in podcasting's next chapter. Sharon explains the unique roots of Omny Studio as a platform built for large-scale broadcast and enterprise publishing needs, while Spreaker helped pioneer early podcast programmatic monetization for creators. That combination gives Triton a unique perspective on both professional publishing and creator-driven growth. We also spend time on Apple's HLS video move and what it may mean for podcasting's future. Sharon shares how Triton had already been preparing for a broader video environment and why Apple's support for HLS is such a meaningful shift. We discuss how HLS could improve flexibility around delivery, ad insertion, and measurement, while still raising important questions about RSS, open distribution, and whether major platforms may slowly pull podcasting into more platform-specific publishing models over time. Another major topic in this episode is trust. From programmatic advertising to AI-generated content to labeling and transparency, Sharon and I explore how podcasting can continue to grow without losing the authentic connection that made the medium valuable in the first place. We both agree that podcasting still has enormous strength as an audio-led medium, but the industry is now balancing openness, innovation, and monetization in ways that will define the next few years. This is a wide-ranging and important discussion for anyone watching the evolution of podcasting, video, ad tech, platform power, and the future of open media. Topics covered – Why Triton Digital matters in podcasting right now – Sharon Taylor's path from Omny Studio to Triton CRO – What Triton is seeing in audio versus video audience behavior – Why podcasting is becoming multi-format, not simply video-first – How Omny Studio and Spreaker fit different parts of the publishing market – What Apple's HLS video move changes for publishers and hosting platforms – Why advertiser confidence and better measurement matter more than ever – The future of RSS, open podcasting, and platform fragmentation – How AI-generated content is affecting publishing growth and industry trust – Where Sharon sees the next big opportunities for podcast growth Guest Sharon Taylor is the Chief Revenue Officer at Triton Digital. She was appointed to the CRO role in August 2025 after helping lead Triton's podcast and content delivery efforts. Before joining Triton, Sharon was CEO of Omny Studio and played a key role in building it into one of the leading enterprise podcast platforms before its acquisition by Triton Digital. Triton Digital: https://www.tritondigital.com/ Spreaker: https://www.spreaker.com/ Omny Studio: https://omnystudio.com/ Host Rob Greenlee is a 2017 Podcast Hall of Famer, Chairperson of the Podcast Hall of Fame, and leader behind Trust Factor Lab and Trust Creators Community at M3Linked. New Media Show: https://newmediashow.com/ Rob Greenlee: https://robgreenlee.com/ Podcast Hall of Fame: https://podcasthall.com/ Trust Creators Community: https://m3linked.com/ Supporters: Get a $10 StreamYard Video Recording and Live Streaming tool Discount using this LINK – https://streamyard.com/pal/c/5606177711325184 Podcasting pros use Podpage – Build a podcast or video show website that updates itself and showcases your show beautifully. Start for just $12/month! –>podpage.com?via=adoreThe post Podcasting's Multi-Format Future | Sharon Taylor #659 first appeared on New Media Show.

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Local Podcasts in a Growing Video World | David Plotz #658

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Play Episode Listen Later Apr 11, 2026


If you are trying to understand where podcasting may still have real, untapped opportunities in 2026 and beyond, this is one of those conversations that point to an important answer: Local. On Episode 658 of The New Media Show, Host Podcast Hall of Famer Rob Greenlee shares a microphone and a video camera with guest David Plotz, founder and CEO of CityCast.fm and co-host of the Political Gabfest podcast from Slate, to: Explore what local podcasts can become in a media environment increasingly shaped by video, platforms, social discovery, and changing audience habits. The conversation starts with local audio, but it quickly opens into something bigger: trust, emotional connection, local relevance, and the question of whether city-based media may be one of the strongest growth areas left in podcasting. David frames City Cast as a network of daily local podcasts, newsletters, social content, and events, built around helping people feel more connected to the cities they live in. The real takeaway in this episode is that local podcasting is not simply a smaller version of national podcasting. It operates under a different set of strengths and constraints. Local Podcasting may never offer the same scale as national audio, but it can offer something more personal and durable: a trusted daily relationship grounded in place. That becomes a powerful differentiator at a time when many creators and media companies are chasing reach but struggling to build loyalty. David brings a rare combination to this topic because he is not just theorizing about local media from the outside. He has built and led major editorial organizations, co-hosted one of podcasting's longest-running political shows, and is now running one of the clearest experiments in local podcast-first media. In the episode, he explains that podcasting's deepest strength is not raw information delivery but feeling, intimacy, and connection. He argues that podcasting works when people are not just informed but emotionally connected to the speakers and the place being discussed. That idea becomes the foundation for how City Cast approaches local media. One of the most useful parts of this episode is hearing David describe what City Cast is actually trying to replace and what it is not. He makes clear that City Cast is not primarily a breaking-news operation. Instead, it builds on an existing local news ecosystem and tries to become the smartest, most interesting, and most delightful daily conversation about what matters in a city. That distinction matters. It means City Cast is not trying to be a direct substitute for newspapers or broadcast radio in every function. It is trying to become additive, conversational, and habit-forming in ways that better fit the strengths of podcasting. From there, the conversation moves into the central tension of the episode: if podcasting is so strong at local trust and emotional connection, why is local podcasting still so hard to scale? David is candid about the addressable audience being smaller, discovery being difficult, and the economics still being figured out. Those are not minor obstacles. They are the core business problem. City Cast's challenge is not simply editorial quality. It is proving that local podcast audiences are valuable, engaged, and commercially meaningful enough to support a durable business. That leads directly into the video. One of the strongest strategic insights in the episode is David's acknowledgment that City Cast did not lean into social and video early enough. He says plainly that the company is now correcting that. The reason is not that audio has failed. The reason is that discovery increasingly happens elsewhere. Younger audiences find local information through social media, YouTube, and short-form feeds. Audio may still be the best format for relationships and routines, but video and social are becoming essential for visibility, especially among younger audiences. A core theme in this episode is that the real opportunity may not be “local podcasts” as a narrow category, but local media brands built around podcasts. City Cast is already moving in that direction through newsletters, events, social distribution, and membership. David's description of the “Neighbors” membership concept is especially revealing. It shows that the City Cast brand is not just about delivering content. It is about building a sense of mutuality, place, and civic belonging. That is a different ambition than simply growing downloads. It is also where local podcasting may have an edge over broader media. This episode ultimately lands on a simple reality: local podcasting is real, but it is not easy. Audio still has a unique role to play in building trust and connection, but it is no longer enough to rely on audio alone for growth and discovery. The winning local media brands may be the ones that understand how to keep audio at the center while surrounding it with the right mix of video, social, newsletters, and community. In that sense, this conversation is not just about local podcasts. It is about where the media gets human again. Quick Q & A Answers What is City Cast trying to build?A local media network built around daily city podcasts, newsletters, social content, and events that help people feel more connected to where they live. Is local podcasting a replacement for local newspapers or radio?Not exactly. David describes it more as additive than as a replacement, with podcasting playing to conversation, feeling, and connection rather than to pure breaking news. Why is local podcasting hard to build as a business?The audience is geographically limited, discovery is difficult, and the economics are still being worked out. City Cast is trying to prove that highly engaged local audiences can support a durable model. Does video matter for local podcasts?Yes, increasingly as a discovery-and-growth layer. David says City Cast came to social and video later than it should have and is now correcting that. What is the deeper advantage of local audio?Its strength is emotional connection, intimacy, daily relevance, and trust. That may matter more as audiences seek media that feels useful and human. Video Chapters: 00:00 Welcome and local media framing02:26 David Plotz joins the show03:00 Slate Political Gabfest history07:39 Live events and audience connection11:47 Podcasting as emotion and intimacy16:27 Why City Cast exists18:07 How City Cast serves cities20:12 Why City Cast is additive, not a replacement25:00 The economics of local podcasting26:22 Washington DC and local news opportunity29:12 Local versus diaspora audiences32:02 Your City Could Be Better33:14 Local advertising and audience value35:12 Why local podcasting is harder than it looks37:02 Social discovery and local media habits38:07 Video and Apple Podcasts44:40 City Cast video workflow challenge47:28 Graham Holdings and Megaphone context51:12 Which cities work best for City Cast53:12 Public radio overlap and younger audiences54:40 Why City Cast missed the video early57:27 Audio, video, and multimedia future01:00:11 Neighbors and local trust01:01:53 Politics, balance, and civic voice01:05:18 Events and community building01:06:36 Wrap up Links Guest David Plotz Links City Cast: https://citycast.fm/City Cast Mission: https://citycast.fm/our-missionCity Cast Membership / Neighbors: https://membership.citycast.fm/David Plotz LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-plotz-ab02164a Host Rob Greenlee and Show Links New Media Show: https://newmediashow.com/Rob Greenlee: https://robgreenlee.com/Trust Factor Lab: https://trustfactorlab.com/Adore Creator Network: https://adorenetwork.com/Podcast Hall of Fame: https://podcasthall.com/Rob Greenlee YouTube: https://youtube.com/@robgreenleeRob Greenlee LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/robgreenleeRob Greenlee Instagram: https://instagram.com/robwgreenleeThe post Local Podcasts in a Growing Video World | David Plotz #658 first appeared on New Media Show.

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Apple Video Podcasts, RSS vs API, Rise of Synthetic Creators | Justin Jackson #657

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Play Episode Listen Later Apr 7, 2026 133:03


If you are trying to understand where podcasting is going in 2026 and beyond, this is one of those conversations that clarifies the whole board. On Episode 657 of The New Media Show, Host Rob Greenlee shares a microphone and a video camera with Justin Jackson, CEO and Co-Founder of Transistor.fm, to unpack two forces reshaping the medium at the same time: Apple's push back into video podcasts using HLS streaming, and the accelerating rise of synthetic creators and human clones powered by AI. The real takeaway in this episode is that this is no longer just a podcasting story. It's a media transformation story, and creators who treat it that way will have the advantage. Justin brings a rare combination to this topic because he is not just watching the ecosystem from the outside. He is building one of the most respected independent podcast hosting platforms and is deeply involved in coordinating the industry’s progress through the Podcast Standards Project. One of the most useful parts of this episode is hearing how standards actually get adopted. Podcasting has a coordination problem, and the only way the open ecosystem keeps evolving is when hosting providers, apps, and major platforms agree on what becomes “standard.” Justin explains why this work is slower than people want and why it matters, using real examples such as transcript support and creator-recommendation tooling via Podroll. From there, we go straight into the big shift: Apple leaning harder into video again, this time through HLS. The practical impact for creators is obvious. Video becomes easier to distribute, monetize, and measure across platforms. The strategic impact is bigger. Apple's move creates a cascade effect. As more hosts build HLS workflows, those streams can increasingly appear not only within Apple's experience but also through open standards like alternate enclosures, especially if apps continue to adopt them. Justin is bullish on RSS-based open podcasting surviving, not because it is nostalgic, but because consumer demand and creator distribution needs keep pulling it forward. A core theme in this episode is that creators and consumers decide what “a podcast” is, not the industry. Justin puts it plainly: if everyday listeners think podcasts are something they watch on YouTube, that belief drives behavior, and behavior drives platforms. This is why the listen-and-watch switching paradigm matters. Consumers want to start in audio and seamlessly jump into video. That pressure changes production habits over time, because the “audio from the video” becomes the default in many workflows. For some audio-first producers, that feels like a loss. For video-first creators, it is an opportunity to build a more fluid media experience that meets people where they are, whether they are watching closely or listening in the background. Rob and Justin also dig into a topic most platforms are not talking about enough: demographics and attention. Apple Podcasts remains a valuable audience, often older, higher-income, harder-to-reach, and premium-friendly. But YouTube and short-form feeds have already shaped younger consumer habits. Justin raises an interesting possibility that a backlash is forming among Gen Z against addictive, brain-rotting feeds. If that continues, there is a real opening for more mindful media experiences, which could benefit audio- and podcast-style consumption and even give Apple an unexpected positioning angle if they choose to lean into it. Then move into the other major shift: synthetic creators, AI cloning, and AI-generated media at scale. We talk about what is real, what is hype, and what's already happening in the market. Justin's perspective is grounded: audiences still choose what they care about, and a lot of AI-generated “slop” is being produced with no real demand. At the same time, I warn that this is the worst the tech will ever be, and that quality is moving fast. The deeper layer is that AI is already part of the content distribution pipeline, because algorithms decide what gets surfaced and recommended. As cloning and synthetic production improve, trust and identification become the bigger story. If people cannot tell what is real, standards for disclosure, verification, and labeling become essential to preserve credibility. This episode ultimately lands on a simple reality: creators do not need to panic, but they do need to adapt. Video is becoming a default entry point. RSS is still resilient, but platform native APIs are expanding. AI will increase volume, forcing platforms to filter more aggressively. The winning creators will be the ones who build trust, produce content people actually want, and package it so it travels across environments without losing the core promise that made the audience show up in the first place. Quick answers What does Apple HLS video mean for podcast creators in 2026?It signals a stronger platform push toward seamless listen-and-watch experiences, better measurement, and future monetization opportunities, and it pressures hosts and apps to support HLS workflows more broadly. Is RSS dying because platforms want APIs and direct uploads?RSS remains highly resilient because creators want distribution portability and consumers want access to the shows they already follow. Platforms may add more native workflows, but RSS continues to power the open layer. Will AI-generated creators replace humans?AI will dramatically increase content volume, but audience trust and relevance will still determine what survives. The big shift is that trust, verification, and disclosure become more important as synthetic media becomes harder to detect. Chapters: 00:00 Welcome and big shifts 01:13 Meet Justin Jackson 02:50 Why podcast standards matter 06:23 Apple HLS video ripple 10:34 Transistor distribution view 13:24 Video podcasting history 17:09 Why the video faded to audio 22:30 YouTube wins attention 29:33 Apple subscriptions and TV 35:57 Demographics and Gen Z 39:03 Mindful media backlash 43:32 Apple culture and video 45:44 Retro tech resistance 46:50 Apple Ads And Privacy 47:40 HLS Rollout And Ad Load 49:25 Will RSS Survive Platforms 50:25 Why RSS Keeps Winning 54:17 Open Standards Like Email 59:16 Gen Z Video Threat 01:01:01 HLS Video Via RSS 01:04:40 Audio Video Switching Pain 01:07:53 Creators Adapt To Fluid Media 01:19:09 Consumers Define Podcasts 01:24:10 AI Voices Enter Podcasting 01:25:16 Reid Hoffman Digital Twin 01:28:17 AI Video Not Live 01:28:46 Latency And Real Time Avatars 01:29:08 Julia McCoy Avatar Demo 01:32:31 Do Audiences Care 01:33:28 AI Lowers Creation Bar 01:35:41 Real Humans Still Win 01:38:20 Noise Raises The Bar 01:40:53 AI For AI Audiences 01:47:39 Deepfake Hype Check 01:50:32 Trust And Disclosure Standards 01:52:19 Platform Overload From Slop 02:00:00 Pulia Spam Example 02:02:57 Throttling And Verification 02:08:27 Wrap Up And HLS Updates Links Guest Justin Jackson Links Transistor.fm: https://transistor.fm/Justin Jackson: https://justinjackson.ca/ Host Rob Greenlee and Show LinksNew Media Show: https://newmediashow.com/Rob Greenlee: https://robgreenlee.com/Trust Factor Lab: https://trustfactorlab.com/Adore Creator Network: https://adorenetwork.com/Podcast Hall of Fame: https://podcasthall.com/Rob Greenlee YouTube: https://youtube.com/@robgreenleeRob Greenlee LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/robgreenleeRob Greenlee Instagram: https://instagram.com/robwgreenlee The post Apple Video Podcasts, RSS vs API, Rise of Synthetic Creators | Justin Jackson #657 first appeared on New Media Show.

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Can Apple Make Video Podcasts Matter? | Jay Nachlis #656

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Play Episode Listen Later Mar 25, 2026


In episode 656 of the New Media Show, Podcast Hall of Famer Rob Greenlee is joined by Jay Nachlis,  Media Research VP at Coleman Insights. “It’s a timely and deeper conversation about Apple Podcasts moving more aggressively into HLS video streaming and what that really means for the future of podcasting, audience behavior, platform competition, and creator strategy in 2026.” This episode goes far beyond the Apple announcement itself. Jay brings a strong audience research and brand strategy perspective to the conversation, and together we dig into the real question behind all of this: will Apple's push into video actually change listener and viewer behavior, or is this simply Apple trying to catch up to audience habits that are already being shaped by YouTube and Spotify? “Apple Podcasts still has major brand recognition in podcasting, but may face an uphill battle in the current environment where YouTube has become the default platform for video-based podcast discovery, and Spotify continues to build a more native monetization and creator ecosystem.” We talk about how audience habits often outweigh platform features, why consumer perception matters as much as technical innovation, and whether Apple can reclaim any meaningful momentum in a category it helped establish years ago. We also discuss how this shift is creating a more fragmented publishing environment for creators. Audio and video are no longer just different formats. They increasingly represent different user expectations, different discovery paths, and different monetization opportunities. “We discuss the growing need for creators to think strategically about separate audio and video feeds, platform-native publishing, HLS streaming delivery, audience experience, and the long-term risks of overreliance on closed ecosystems.” Jay and I also explore the broader competitive chessboard. That includes YouTube's dominance in video & video podcast consumption, Spotify's continued attempts to define its role in both audio and video, and even whether players like Netflix could successfully move into podcast-adjacent content formats. This episode is really about where podcasting is headed as a medium, not just one Apple feature update. If you are a podcaster, creator, media strategist, advertiser, or platform watcher trying to understand where podcasting, video, discovery, and monetization are all heading next, this is an episode you should not miss. Chapters: 00:00 Apple Video Podcast Push 00:47 Meet the Hosts 01:56 Apple Streaming Update 03:14 Early Podcasting Era 05:19 YouTube Spotify Takeover 07:05 Can Apple Compete 08:25 Research YouTube Wins UX 10:30 Awareness Drives Usage 12:07 Netflix Podcasting Fit 15:58 Discovery Algorithms Habits 18:10 Apple Video Hidden Toggle 19:26 Audio Quality vs Video 22:22 Brand Content Trust Matrix 24:05 Apple Podcasts Brand Gap 24:51 Differentiation Over Video 25:41 RSS and HLS Debate 27:09 Why Listeners Choose Apple 28:03 Zune Era Video Podcasts 30:07 YouTube Parallel History 30:59 Winning Tech Standards 33:16 Reaching Younger Audiences 36:48 Hosting Costs and HLS 39:05 Creator Burden of Video 41:20 Future Screens in Cars 43:23 Marketing and Discovery Fixes 45:35 Alternative Enclosures Path 46:49 Wrap Up and Where to Follow Guest Jay Nachlis LinksJay Nachlis LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaynachlis/Coleman Insights: https://colemaninsights.com/Tuesdays with Coleman: https://colemaninsights.com/blog/ Host Rob Greenlee and Show LinksNew Media Show: https://newmediashow.com/Rob Greenlee: https://robgreenlee.com/Trust Factor Lab: https://trustfactorlab.com/Adore Creator Network: https://adorenetwork.com/Podcast Hall of Fame: https://podcasthall.com/Rob Greenlee YouTube: https://youtube.com/@robgreenleeRob Greenlee LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/robgreenleeRob Greenlee Instagram: https://instagram.com/robwgreenlee The post Can Apple Make Video Podcasts Matter? | Jay Nachlis #656 first appeared on New Media Show.

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Podcast Growth and Discovery in 2026 | Arielle Nissenblatt #655

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Play Episode Listen Later Mar 18, 2026


Podcast discovery feels harder in 2026, not because creators stopped trying, but because attention is now split across podcast apps, YouTube, short-form video feeds, newsletters, and search-driven recommendations. On this recorded episode of the New Media Show, host Rob Greenlee shares the screen and a microphone with Arielle Nissenblatt, 2026 Podcast Hall of Famer and Founder of EarBuds Podcast Collective and Head of Community and Content at Pinwheel by Audily, to break down what is actually changing right now and what creators can still do that consistently grows audience and trust. “Arielle brings a listener-first, creator-first perspective that cuts through the noise. Platforms matter, but they are not the whole story. If a show is not clearly positioned, consistently delivered, and genuinely recommendable, the best metadata in the world will not create retention.” This episode focuses on the practical middle ground: respect the power of platforms, but build your growth strategy around behaviors you can control. “A big part of that conversation is Apple's renewed push into video podcasts and what an HLS-based video experience signals for the direction of distribution.” Rob frames it as part of a broader convergence toward a unified listen-and-watch experience, where measurement and monetization are easier for platforms when content is native. “Arielle agrees that video is becoming an important top-of-funnel entry point, not because every show should be video-first, but because platforms can more easily optimize what they can see, track, and sell.” We also talk through Spotify's monetization strategy and what it means when major platforms keep building native paths to get paid. The underlying point is that creators need to understand the economics behind product decisions. “The more platforms own the experience, the more they can shape the rules of distribution, monetization, and visibility.” Then we get into the part that matters most for working creators: what still works. “Arielle argues that recommendation culture remains one of the most underused growth engines in podcasting. Word of mouth, curated lists, and community flywheels can outperform algorithm chasing, especially for shows that serve a clear audience with a clear promise.” That is exactly why EarBuds has remained durable for years in a market that constantly reinvents itself. “Human curation is still a superpower because it creates trusted signals that travel even when platforms turn the knobs.” Community comes up too, with a reality check. Not every show needs a community, and not every audience wants one. “The test is whether people are already reaching for a deeper connection and shared identity around your content. When that demand exists, the community can compound trust and retention. When it does not, forcing it can drain your energy and distract you from the actual product, the show.” If you are building in 2026, the creators who win are not the ones who panic-switch formats every quarter. They are the ones who lock in a format strategy, build audience ownership where possible, and package their content for multiple environments without losing the core promise that makes listeners return. Quick answers people are searching for: Is podcast discovery broken in 2026? It is fragmented. People discover shows across apps, video platforms, newsletters, and search experiences, so creators need packaging that works across multiple paths. Do I need a video to grow a podcast? Not always. Video is becoming a common entry point, but growth still comes from clarity, consistency, and ease of recommendation. What is the fastest reliable growth lever right now? Recommendation loops: collaborations, curated lists, newsletters, and audience sharing that create real trust signals. What should creators prioritize this year? Format strategy, audience ownership, cross-platform packaging, and a repeatable workflow you can sustain. Show and Guest Links: Host Rob Greenlee https://robgreenlee.com/ (Rob Greenlee) New Media Show https://newmediashow.com/ (New Media Show) Rob Greenlee Live Podcasts https://robgreenlee.com/live-podcasts/ (Rob Greenlee) Rob Greenlee & New Media Show YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@RobGreenlee (Rob Greenlee) Spoken Human Show – YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@spokenhuman (Rob Greenlee) LinkedIn – Rob Greenlee https://www.linkedin.com/in/robgreenlee (Rob Greenlee) Instagram – Rob Greenlee https://www.instagram.com/robwgreenlee (Rob Greenlee) X.com – Rob Greenlee https://x.com/robgreenlee (Rob Greenlee) Adore Podcast Network https://AdoreNetwork.com (Rob Greenlee) Podcast Hall of Fame https://PodcastHall.com (Rob Greenlee) Guest Arielle Nissenblatt LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/arielle-nissenblatt EarBuds Podcast Collective: https://earbuds.audio/ Pinwheel by Audily: https://pinwheelshows.com/The post Podcast Growth and Discovery in 2026 | Arielle Nissenblatt #655 first appeared on New Media Show.

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Building a Very Human Media Business | Erin Diehl #654

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Play Episode Listen Later Mar 12, 2026


As AI becomes more embedded into content creation, discovery, and distribution, one truth is becoming clearer: the long-term winners in media may not be the fastest or the most automated. They may be the most human. That was the core idea behind this conversation with Erin Diehl of Improve It! and the host of the Workday Playdate Podcast, and New Media Show host and Podcast Hall of Fame Inductee Rob Greenlee on New Media Show Episode 654, where we explored what it really means to build a media business rooted in trust, emotional connection, authenticity, and memorable audience experiences. Erin Diehl, founder of improve it! and host of the Workday Playdate podcast, brings a distinctive perspective to this discussion. Her work sits at the intersection of improv, leadership, communication, and community-building. On her podcast and in her live workshops, she focuses on helping people reconnect with empathy, listening, adaptability, humor, and playfulness as practical tools for stronger communication and leadership. Erin describes those same qualities as the traits of both a great improviser and a great human, and that framing shaped this entire conversation. (itserindiehl.com) What made this episode especially timely is that it did not treat AI as the enemy. Instead, it argued that AI is becoming part of the infrastructure of modern media, especially in discovery, distribution, workflow, and scale, while human presence remains the true differentiator. I said during the episode that creators are still in the human media business, and Erin agreed that what continues to work is the authenticity of human experience. That idea matters because audiences are increasingly surrounded by an abundance of content. When everything becomes easier to generate, the value of presence, perspective, vulnerability, and emotional resonance goes up. Erin argued that humanity is not becoming less important in the AI era. It is becoming more important. She pointed to empathy, trust, culture, and connection as qualities that are not going away, even as new technologies reshape jobs, workflows, and media formats. A major theme in this conversation was the role of play in serious work. Erin's approach is not about being frivolous. It is about using play, improv, and emotional openness to create real breakthroughs in communication. In her workshops, she guides people step by step out of their comfort zones, not to embarrass them but to help them reconnect with spontaneity, attentiveness, and confidence. She explained that many adults lose that natural instinct for play as they grow older, replacing it with judgment, self-doubt, and emotional caution. Her work is designed to reverse some of that pattern and reawaken more authentic human interaction. We also talked about how this translates directly into content creation. Erin shared that her podcast has become more than just a show. It is part of a broader ecosystem that supports her workshops, speaking, community, and business growth. She uses monthly themes to shape her episodes, guest selection, social content, and offers. That strategy helps create consistency, clarity, and a stronger trust pathway between audience attention and business outcomes. It is a smart reminder that a podcast today often works best when it is part of a larger media and relationship-building system. Another valuable part of this episode was Erin's openness about team building. She made it clear that creating across podcasting, social media, video, live events, and community is difficult to sustain on one’s own. She credited her team with helping manage production, guest coordination, marketing, logistics, sales, and creative execution. That is an important lesson for professional creators and media entrepreneurs. Building a durable media business often means building systems and support around your voice, not trying to do every part of the machine alone. We also dug into mindset, self-expression, and the emotional reality of being a creator today. Erin spoke candidly about doubt, comparison, and the danger of code-switching or muting your true personality to fit an environment. Her advice was direct: find the people, audiences, and teams that allow you to be more fully yourself. In a media environment increasingly shaped by algorithmic incentives and imitation, that may be one of the most important strategic advantages a creator can have. This episode is really about a bigger question facing everyone in podcasting, video, and digital media right now: if AI can help produce and distribute content at scale, what still makes a creator matter? The answer from this conversation is not just better tools or smarter systems. It is humanity. It is the ability to make people feel seen, understood, energized, and connected. That is what creates trust. That is what builds community. And that is what makes a media business more durable over time. Brief Episode Description In New Media Show Episode 654, Rob Greenlee talks with Erin Diehl, founder of improve it! and host of Workday Playdate, about what it takes to build a truly human media business in an AI-driven era. They explore why trust, empathy, emotional intelligence, playfulness, authenticity, and community may become even more valuable as AI expands across media creation and distribution. The conversation also looks at how improv principles can strengthen podcasting, leadership, content strategy, live events, and audience connection. Erin shares how she built her business and shows around human transformation, while Rob frames why creators still need to think of themselves as being in the human media business first. Key Takeaways – Creators are still in the human media business, even as AI becomes more useful for discovery, workflow, and distribution. – Authenticity, empathy, trust, and emotional connection are becoming more valuable as content volume increases. – Improv skills like listening, adaptability, humor, and presence map directly to stronger media creation and leadership. – A podcast works best when it is part of a broader ecosystem that includes community, services, events, and business strategy. – Monthly content themes can help creators build a more focused and sustainable content engine across multiple platforms. – In-person human experiences still have unique power in an increasingly digital media world. – A strong team can be essential for creators trying to build across audio, video, social, and live experiences. – The future of media may depend less on sounding polished and more on being unmistakably human. Relevant Links Host Rob Greenlee https://robgreenlee.com/ (Rob Greenlee) New Media Show https://newmediashow.com/ (New Media Show) Rob Greenlee Live Podcasts https://robgreenlee.com/live-podcasts/ (Rob Greenlee) Rob Greenlee & New Media Show YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@RobGreenlee (Rob Greenlee) Spoken Human Show – YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@spokenhuman (Rob Greenlee) LinkedIn – Rob Greenlee https://www.linkedin.com/in/robgreenlee (Rob Greenlee) Instagram – Rob Greenlee https://www.instagram.com/robwgreenlee (Rob Greenlee) X.com – Rob Greenlee https://x.com/robgreenlee (Rob Greenlee) Adore Podcast Network https://AdoreNetwork.com (Rob Greenlee) Podcast Hall of Fame https://PodcastHall.com (Rob Greenlee) Guest Erin Diehl https://www.itserindiehl.com/meet-erin (itserindiehl.com) improve it! https://www.learntoimproveit.com/ (learntoimproveit.com) Workday Playdate Podcast https://www.learntoimproveit.com/podcast-page (learntoimproveit.com) Workday Playdate on Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/workday-playdate/id1508450538 (Apple Podcasts)The post Building a Very Human Media Business | Erin Diehl #654 first appeared on New Media Show.

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Can Fiction Story Podcasts Survive Video Push | Lauren Shippen #652

New Media Show (Video)

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 1, 2026


New Media Show #652 with Rob Greenlee and Lauren Shippen On Episode 652 of the New Media Show, host Rob Greenlee shares a screen with Lauren Shippen, Creative Director at Atypical Artists, to tackle a growing tension in creator media around audio fiction, which is thriving as a storytelling format but is being pressure-tested by the industry's video-first discovery push. Fiction podcasts did not stop working. What changed is how platforms signal value, how audiences discover new shows, and how creators feel forced to look video-ready to compete. The real question for fiction creators in 2026 is not “How do I force my story into video?” It is “How do I protect the magic of audio storytelling while adding the right discovery layers for today's platforms?” Lauren shares what fiction creators often misunderstand about sustainability, what typically breaks first when the story stalls, and where video helps, hurts, or becomes unrealistic. Rob lays out a practical framework for separating audio as the product from video as the discovery layer, plus realistic tiers of visual strategy that will not turn your show into a second production company. Quick answers for creators What is the episode about A practical conversation about protecting audio fiction storytelling while adapting to video-driven discovery across platforms in 2026. Should fiction podcasts become video podcasts to grow Not automatically. The strategy is to keep audio as the core product and use video selectively as a discovery layer when it improves reach without breaking the production model. What is the biggest mistake fiction creators make Trying to solve growth with promotion before fixing story retention fundamentals like onboarding, pacing, cadence, and season design. How should fiction shows think about video? As budget tiers. Start with lightweight discovery assets and only move toward full narrative adaptation if the economics and workflow support it. Topics we cover – Why fiction creators feel pulled between story-first goals and video-first platform expectations – The top growth inputs fiction creators still control, even when platforms shift – Story architecture that drives retention before promotion pacing, onboarding, cadence, and season design – Video pressure: what is real, what is hype, and what creators should ignore – Audio only vs video for fiction when format helps and when it hurts – Budget tiers for video lightweight discovery assets vs full narrative adaptation – Trailers as conversion assets and how to build a simple start here listener path – Why human recommendations still beat algorithm chasing for story shows Community reality checks what to prove before building Discord or fan spaces – Where AI helps scripted storytelling workflows, and where it can damage authorship and trust – A practical 30-day growth plan for fiction podcasters Chapters: 00:00 Story Versus Screen 01:41 Meet Lauren Shippen 03:22 What Counts As Podcast 06:00 Video As Discovery 08:18 Netflix Podcast Strategy 15:30 Monetization And Paywalls 19:48 Apple Video Feed Tension 22:36 Always On Audio Fiction 27:47 Audience Growth Beyond Podcasts 32:50 AI Slop Versus Art 40:21 Sports Analogy For AI 42:38 Why AI Lacks Heart 43:31 Gaming and Interactive Futures 45:03 If Everyone Can Generate It 47:10 The Internet Shapes AI Adoption 48:45 Podcasting as Human Story 51:14 Blurring Fiction and Truth 54:01 Atypical Artist Slate Tour 57:17 Making Shows Work Economically 01:03:54 Producing and Adapting Workflow 01:06:04 Origin Story Bright Sessions 01:10:21 New Projects and Immersive Marketing 01:14:14 Serial Model and Journalism Worries 01:15:38 Fiction Podcast Evolution 01:17:22 Wrap Up and Next Episode Tease Featured projects mentioned The Bright Sessions Rebel Robin 2000 and Late Breaker Whiskey Resource Links: Host: Rob Greenlee [https://robgreenlee.com] The New Media Show [https://newmediashow.com/] Adore Network [https://AdoreNetwork.com] Podcast Hall of Fame [https://PodcastHall.com] Rob on YouTube [https://YouTube.com/@RobGreenlee] Rob on LinkedIn [https://LinkedIn.com/in/robgreenlee] Guest: Lauren Shippen [https://www.laurenshippen.com/] Atypical Artists [https://www.atypicalartists.co/] Book Rob Calendly [https://calendly.com/robgreenlee]The post Can Fiction Story Podcasts Survive Video Push | Lauren Shippen #652 first appeared on New Media Show.

Your Brand Amplified©
The Podcasting Veteran's Playbook: Rob Greenlee on Platform Convergence and Creator Strategy

Your Brand Amplified©

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 25, 2026 55:58


Starting with marketing-focused customer acquisition through internet content, Rob Greenlee evolved from radio into pioneering podcast creation, revealing a crucial historical truth: video podcasting has existed since podcasting's inception, with major media companies distributing full television episodes via RSS feeds since the early 2000s. His core principle—that content bridges creators and audiences—remains constant across all technological transformations. His most valuable takeaway is that professionalization and rising production standards, while elevating content quality, have simultaneously raised barriers to entry. Rather than fearing AI as a threat, Rob advocates owning digital intellectual property—including AI clones capturing voice, expressions, and gestures—as a control mechanism over narrative and opportunity. This democratizes creation for those with disabilities and limited budgets while simultaneously demanding that human creators differentiate through authentic creativity and vision. His critical insight is that AI strips away production complexity and reduces labor intensity, making content creation more accessible while simultaneously raising the bar for what constitutes compelling, human-centered work. For creators committed to thriving in this multi-platform, AI-enabled future, Rob Greenlee's guidance is rooted in continuous experimentation and informed flexibility. Visit his website to access his coaching, strategic sessions, podcast networks, and archival content dating to 1999—all resources designed to help you align creative work with sustainable business models. Rob's fundamental message: success belongs to those who remain observant of industry shifts, adaptable in their approach, and unwavering in their commitment to authentic human connection and creative excellence. For the accessible version of the podcast, go to our Ziotag gallery.We're happy you're here! Like the pod?Support the podcast and receive discounts from our sponsors: https://yourbrandamplified.codeadx.me/Leave a rating and review on your favorite platformFollow @yourbrandamplified on the socialsTalk to my digital avatar Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

New Media Show (Video)
Apple's New Video Podcast Deep Dive | James Cridland #651

New Media Show (Video)

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 19, 2026


On Weds, February 18th Live Episode #651 of the New Media Show, Rob Greenlee, Host, 2017 Podcast Hall of Famer and CEO of Trust Factor Lab at https://RobGreenlee.com, and James Cridland, Editor, https://Podnews.net and 2026 Podcast Hall of Famer discuss Apple's announcement of a new and improved video podcast experience in the Apple Podcasts app and what it changes technically and strategically heading into 2026.  They explain how video was previously active in Apple Podcasts but was hidden and poorly presented in the iOS apps, and how this new updated experience makes video playback front and center, with a “turn video off” option that keeps the audio track playing.  The episode breaks down Apple's preferred move to HLS-based on-demand video delivery (via a separate, proprietary API HLS video streaming pass-through submission from approved hosting partners) while still supporting legacy MP4 video via RSS.  They cover HLS basics (chunked delivery, adaptive quality, reduced bandwidth, and hosting costs), improved seeking/scrubbing versus progressive MP4 playback, and new measurement implications (better insight into drop-off and ad viewing). A major focus is monetization: Apple plans to enable dynamic ad insertion for HLS video and charge a per-impression fee, positioning Apple to take revenue without operating an ad business.  The conversation notes early launch partners (Acast, Art19, Omny Studio, Simplecast), questions about specs and rollout timing (an app update is likely by the end of March; dynamic ad features later in the year), and the risk of platform fragmentation as distribution shifts from open RSS to proprietary APIs.  James and Rob discuss alternate enclosures (Podcasting 2.0) as an open path to wider app support, reference iHeart's stated support for video via RSS alternate enclosures, and highlight creator concerns about losing separate audio edits when video replaces the audio feed during playback.  They also touch on device support (not initially on Apple TV; CarPlay doesn't show video; Vision Pro support) and briefly discuss future RSS innovation ideas like comments, payments, transcripts, and location tags, plus a short note on upcoming podcast events (Podcast Show London, Podcast Movement New York, Podcast Movement at SXSW). Chapter Topics: 00:00 Welcome + Why Apple's Video Podcast Update Matters 01:31 Apple Brings Video Front-and-Center (and Why Now) 06:00 The New Playback Experience: Full-Screen Video & One Feed 10:49 How Apple's HLS Video Works (and Why It's Better) 11:36 The Money Shift: Dynamic Video Ads & Apple's Per-Impression Fee 17:59 Rollout Timeline, Unknown Specs, and Early Partner Shows 23:54 Partners, Two Ingestion Paths, and the RSS vs HLS Debate 34:47 Hands-On Demo: Video Icons, Turn Video Off, and MP4 vs HLS 39:47 Bandwidth, Scrubbing, and What HLS Enables for Measurement 44:16 Quality/Resolution Questions + Missing Apple TV (for Now) 46:26 CarPlay & Vision Pro: Where Apple Podcasts Video Actually Plays 47:09 Will HLS Replace MP3 for Audio? Monetization, Costs, and Reality Check 49:51 Apple vs Spotify: Open Hosting, Dynamic Ads, and Why This Helps Creators 52:30 Audio Isn't ‘Video Without Pictures': Why Separate Edits Matter 55:21 Will It Work With Spotify for Creators? Partners, Megaphone, and Pressure 01:00:02 How HLS Interstitials Work: Client-Side Ad Breaks and Spec Unknowns 01:07:48 Keeping RSS Relevant: Alternate Enclosures, Comments, Payments, and New Tags 01:13:48 Local Podcasting & Specialized Apps: Location Tag, TuneIn, and the Future 01:20:20 Wrap-Up: Conferences, Cold Weather, and Final Goodbyes What you will learn in this episode – How Apple's HLS video differs from RSS MP4 enclosures in real-world creator workflows  – Why HLS segment-based delivery enables adaptive streaming and modern video ad insertion – What Apple's limited launch partner list means for hosting competition and creator choice  (Podnews) – https://podnews.net/article/video-apple-podcasts-details – How Apple Podcasts Connect API keys work, and what they do and do not grant to hosting providers – https://podcasters.apple.com/support/5593-how-to-publish-video – How creators should decide between RSS video, Apple HLS video, and other platform video strategies in 2026 – https://www.theverge.com/tech/879749/apple-podcasts-video-swap-hls-live-streaming Links for show notes Watch live or On Demand https://newmediashow.com Apple announcement https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2026/02/apple-introduces-a-new-video-podcast-experience-on-apple-podcasts/ Apple creator documentation https://podcasters.apple.com/video-apple-podcasts  https://podcasters.apple.com/support/5593-how-to-publish-video https://podcasters.apple.com/support/3684-video-podcasts  Podnews analysis https://podnews.net/article/video-apple-podcasts-details  https://podnews.net/update/apple-podcasts-hero  Guest James Cridland, Editor, https://Podnews.net https://james.cridland.net/biography/  Host Rob Greenlee, 2017 Podcast Hall of Fame Inductee https://robgreenlee.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/robgreenlee https://www.youtube.com/@RobGreenlee https://x.com/robgreenlee https://PodcastHall.comThe post Apple's New Video Podcast Deep Dive | James Cridland #651 first appeared on New Media Show.

New Media Show (Video)
How AI-Created Podcasts Impacting Humans? | Jeanine Wright #650

New Media Show (Video)

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 8, 2026


AI-generated podcast hosts and shows are rapidly changing podcasting, video podcasting, and the creator economy across all distribution platforms, including AI LLMs. In this episode of The New Media Show Live #650 from Feb 4th, 2026, Host Rob Greenlee, CEO/Founder of Trust Factor Lab, explores how AI-generated podcasts affect people, trust, and the future of media with Jeanine Wright, Co-Founder and CEO of Inception Point AI. Jeanine Wright will help us better understand what Inception Point AI is building and why AI-generated personalities are different from human-created podcasts and AI-assisted editing tools. This conversation is designed to help podcasters, creators, media executives, and advertisers understand AI-generated podcast content without fear. It will be a clear, accurate discussion about how synthetic hosts work, how audiences respond emotionally, and what the next 12 to 24 months may look like as AI improves. As humans seem to be rejecting AI-generated content, its human consumption is growing and quality is rapidly improving. Key topics covered in this 60-minute conversation -AI-generated podcast hosts and synthetic media explained in plain language -How AI personalities are created using story plus technology -How listeners build trust and emotional attachment with AI voices -Disclosure and transparency for AI-generated content -Authenticity and credibility in AI-created podcasts versus human-created podcasts -Ethics, consent, voice, likeness, and IP issues in synthetic media -Brand safety, advertising readiness, and monetization for AI-hosted shows -Platform discovery and distribution when AI content volume explodes -What human creators should do now to stay differentiated and future-proof? -Practical strategies for building trust and growth in 2026 and beyond Who this episode is for -Podcast creators and video creators -Media companies, podcast networks, and platform teams -Advertisers and brand safety leaders -Listeners curious about AI-generated content and the future of podcasting Watch live at YouTube.com/@RobGreenlee and join the conversation Watch On-Demand/Podcast Audio and Video Versions at https://newmediashow.com  Guest Jeanine Wright, Inception Point AI https://www.inceptionpoint.ai Host Rob Greenlee https://robgreenlee.com https://www.youtube.com/@RobGreenlee https://www.youtube.com/@spokenhuman https://www.linkedin.com/in/robgreenlee https://www.instagram.com/robwgreenlee https://x.com/robgreenlee https://AdoreNetwork.com https://PodcastHall.com 00:00 Introduction to the New Media Show 00:55 Guest Introduction: Janine Wright 01:42 Addressing AI Controversies 05:18 AI’s Impact on Jobs and Content Quality 13:36 Exploring AI-Generated Content 14:41 AI Personalities and Content Creation 22:42 Future of AI in Content Creation 31:32 Transparency and Ethical Considerations 43:25 Human Creators in an AI-Driven World 46:40 Exploring Swap Farms and Bot Traffic 47:28 The Evolution of Podcast Quality 50:45 AI in Video Content Creation 52:20 Digital Clones and Ethical Considerations 56:50 AI Personalities and Content Creation 01:04:19 The Future of AI in Podcasting 01:23:09 Advertiser Reactions and Industry Impact 01:25:43 Final Thoughts and Future ConversationsThe post How AI-Created Podcasts Impacting Humans? | Jeanine Wright #650 first appeared on New Media Show.

New Media Show (Video)
What Actually Grows a Podcast or Show Now? | Jordan Harbinger #649

New Media Show (Video)

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 31, 2026


This week in episode 649 of the New Media Show, Rob Greenlee is joined by Jordan Harbinger to unpack the question creators ask nonstop in 2026: What actually grows a podcast or show (and what doesn't)? – Jordan's core answer is refreshingly “boring,” but real: long-term consistency, and realistic expectations about how long monetization can take—even for shows that eventually become huge. From there, the conversation expands into the bigger shift happening right now: – Audio podcasts increasingly competing (and collaborating) with video ecosystems especially YouTube where the “rules” and algorithmic expectations are fundamentally different from audio distribution. They also dig into platform strategy and brand-fit tension like whether “talk show” style content truly belongs on Netflix, and why creators may face tough tradeoffs when platforms want exclusivity that can limit reach elsewhere. After Jordan wraps and leaves the show, Rob closes with a rapid-fire, ranked set of growth plays emphasizing that none are magic bullets, but together they form a practical menu you can test based on your format and audience: – Short-form clips (done well) to reach different audiences while recognizing shorts viewers don't always convert to long-form listeners/viewers. – Guest/social amplification that's genuinely value-add (not generic promo spam). – Niche community, value-first posting built around knowing exactly who your show serves. – Owned audience via email/newsletter + even a WhatsApp group concept. – AI clip volume + testing (alternate cuts, tighter versions, experimentation). – Structured cross-promos / feed drops with comparable shows and fair “impressions”-style thinking. – Video distribution expansion including Spotify video (if Spotify makes changes) as another potential growth surface—and the emerging “start audio, finish video” behavior across devices. Guest: Jordan Harbinger Website: https://www.jordanharbinger.com Podcast: https://www.jordanharbinger.com/podcast/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JordanHarbinger Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jordanharbinger/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordanharbinger X: https://x.com/jordanharbinger Host: Rob Greenlee and New Media Show Links Rob Greenlee Website – https://robgreenlee.com/ New Media Show (Audio & Video) – https://newmediashow.com/ New Media Show Audio (Apple Podcasts) – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-media-show-audio/id392545649 Rob Greenlee on YouTube – https://youtube.com/@RobGreenlee Podfest Expo – https://podfestexpo.com – https://podcasthall.comThe post What Actually Grows a Podcast or Show Now? | Jordan Harbinger #649 first appeared on New Media Show.

New Media Show (Video)
Where Audio, Video, and AI Flow Together | Podfest Panel #648

New Media Show (Video)

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 27, 2026


The New Media Show #648 Live On-Stage at Podfest Expo (Jan 16, 2026) Where Audio, Video, and AI Flow Together Recorded live on stage at Podfest Expo in Orlando,  Rob Greenlee is joined by three of the smartest voices shaping where podcasting is headed right now: James Cridland (Podnews), Rox Codes (Flightcast), and Philip Nelson (Nelco Media). This episode tackles the collision of audio RSS, platform-native video, and AI-powered creator workflows and why the podcast conversation in 2026 is less about labels and more about content that works everywhere. What we cover: -Audio podcasting vs video podcasting and what audiences actually want -Why content first matters more than format wars -The roots of video in early podcasting and why it feels full circle again -Fragmented audiences across YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and Shorts -Practical creator strategy packaging, titles, thumbnails, retention, and workflow systems that scale Guests and Links: James Cridland Podnews – https://podnews.net/ Podnews Weekly Review – https://weekly.podnews.net/ Rox Codes Flightcast – https://flightcast.com/ Rox Codes – https://rox.codes/ Philip Nelson Nelco Media – https://nelco.media/ Philip Nelson – https://nelco.media/about/ Rob Greenlee and New Media Show Links Rob Greenlee Website – https://robgreenlee.com/ New Media Show (Audio & Video) – https://newmediashow.com/ New Media Show Audio (Apple Podcasts) – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-media-show-audio/id392545649 Rob Greenlee on YouTube – https://youtube.com/@RobGreenlee Podfest Expo – https://podfestexpo.com – https://podcasthall.comThe post Where Audio, Video, and AI Flow Together | Podfest Panel #648 first appeared on New Media Show.

School of Podcasting
Behind the Scenes at Podfest: Lessons, Laughs, and Cold Coffee

School of Podcasting

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 26, 2026 36:13


Hey, it's Dave Jackson from the School of Podcasting, and in this episode, I'm recapping my experience at Podfest 2026, which was a whirlwind of hallway chats, memorable dinners, and some eye-opening lessons. Here's what I cover:Hallway Conversations & Overheard Myths: I noticed folks were obsessing over tiny details like the exact minute a podcast should release, debating things like whether 8:01am is better than 8:00am. Honestly, I don't think anyone is waiting by their phone for your show to drop to the minute. Being consistent matters more than timing it down to the second.The Role (and Cost) of AI in Podcasting: I talked to podcasters searching for AI tools that could do everything—generate ideas, write scripts, edit, publish, you name it—ideally for free. The reality is, good AI isn't free, and companies are raising prices when they add AI features. “AI” stands for “Always Increase” when it comes to your expenses!Reflections on Video: Unlike previous conferences, there wasn't as much pressure this time to dive into video podcasting. Most folks seemed to realize you don't want AI or automation to create your whole show. Polishing? Sure, but not producing the meat.A Cool AI Demo: I saw a preview of Episonic AI, which analyzes your past episodes, constructs a target audience profile, and even suggests topics and guests. It was interesting in demo form, but I'd want to play with it myself before really judging.Conference Costs and Why They're So High: I break down just how expensive it is to put on a conference—think $10k to rent an LED screen and $8k just to plug it in. Even coffee for attendees can run $135/gallon! High ticket prices aren't about gouging attendees; organizers are just trying to cover astronomical hotel fees.Networking Magic: The biggest benefit of these events is always the networking. I had a blast connecting with old friends, like Daniel J. Lewis, Rob Walsh, Rob Greenlee, and James Cridlin, and got to enjoy some great stories and camaraderie.Podcasting Hall of Fame: The Hall of Fame event was a highlight. Seeing so many people who've truly served the podcasting community—sharing knowledge, fighting legal battles, innovating—reminded me that serving your audience is the common denominator among podcasting greats.A Word on Programmatic Ads: I discuss my article comparing podcast CPM/programmatic ads to the historic crash of banner ad prices on websites. My worry: as more low-quality, AI-generated shows flood the market and accept pennies, ad rates may sink across the board."How to Pitch a Podcast" Show Update: I'm experimenting with a new show concept where we share the worst—and best—podcast pitches. So far, the main hurdle is getting folks to submit their stories in audio form. I've simplified the process, and hope more people will participate. If not, it may become a segment rather than a full show.Final Thoughts: If you went to Podfest, don't wait to follow up with those business cards—make the most of your new connections! I share about my next steps, including attending the Novel Marketing Conference in Austin, and remind everyone to check out schoolofpodcasting.com if you want personal help growing your show.Mentioned In This EpisodeSchool of Podcasting CommunityPodnewsRich Graham the Merch Drop Show

The Podcasting Morning Chat
441. The Hidden Time Drains in Podcasting

The Podcasting Morning Chat

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 23, 2026 58:13


Podcasting can feel lonely when you're stuck making decisions no one prepared you for. The technical choices, the workflow questions, the moments where you can't help but wonder if you're overthinking everything or missing something obvious. We get it. We've been there. Today, we open the mailbag and respond to real questions submitted by podcasters navigating both the technical and non-technical sides of the craft. From platform frustrations to workflow doubts, the team slows the conversation down and thinks things through together, offering perspective without panic or pressure. You may hear your own challenges reflected in these questions. If you have podcast-related questions of your own, you're always welcome to submit them through the Empowered Podcasting Facebook Group using the link below. We're always happy to help. Toward the end of the show, we shift gears and share our wins from the week, celebrating the progress, milestones, and accomplishments happening across the community.Episode Highlights: [02:00] Diving into the listener mailbag[02:51] Jeff's Riverside recording issues[05:08] Advice and troubleshooting for Jeff's setup[07:28] Exploring alternative recording and workflow tools[18:01] Question on guest management[31:03] Taking ownership of podcast promotion[31:28] Building an effective guest workflow[32:06] Collaborating with guests to promote episodes[36:35] Concerns about podcast hosting platforms[44:19] Wins from the weekLinks & Resources: The Podcasting Morning Chat: www.podpage.com/pmcJoin The Empowered Podcasting Facebook Group:www.facebook.com/groups/empoweredpodcasting⁠Empowered Podcasting Conference Course with Recordings: https://ironickmedia.com/courses/epc2025/Empowered Podcasting Conference 3: Use discount code ‘Podfest26' to get your ticket for under $200: https://empoweredpodcasting.comApplication To Submit Your Show For Evaluation: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSc8-Xv6O6lrNPcPJwj3N0Z5Osdl-5kHGz_PiAU45U57S-XgoA/viewform?usp=headerPodpage: https://www.podpage.com/?via=ironickmedia&u=515146796&ch=Mzrg46OpLate Bloomer  Living: https://www.latebloomerliving.com/blog/episode-257Riverside: https://www.riverside.fm/?via=0676daPodMatch: https://podmatch.com/?ref=1646144442692x331135044042346200Libsyn: www.lybsyn.com Capcut: www.capcut.com Captivate: https://www.captivate.fmNotion:www.notion.comTrello: https://trello.comClickups: https://clickup.com/downloadRalph Estep's Guest Appearance with Rob Greenlee on The New Media Show:  www.youtube.com/live/MHr3B3tF7cQ?si=stvLoQowgOoGtxQ5Katie Brinkley: https://katiebrinkley.comRemember to rate, follow, share, and review our podcast. Your support helps us grow and bring valuable content to the podcasting community.Join us LIVE every weekday morning at 7 am ET (US) on ⁠Clubhouse⁠: ⁠⁠⁠ https://www.clubhouse.com/house/empowered-podcasting-e6nlrk0w⁠⁠Live on YouTube: ⁠https://youtube.com/@marcronick⁠Brought to you by⁠ ⁠iRonickMedia.com⁠⁠ Please note that some links may be affiliate links, which support the hosts of the PMC. Thank you!--- Send in your mailbag question at:⁠ https://www.podpage.com/pmc/contact/⁠ or ⁠marc@ironickmedia.com⁠Want to be a guest on The Podcasting Morning Chat? Send me a message on PodMatch, here: ⁠https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/1729879899384520035bad21b⁠

New Media Show (Video)
Digital Creator 2026 Money Playbook | Ralph Estep Jr. #647

New Media Show (Video)

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 23, 2026


The New Media Show Episode 647 Live on Jan 21st, 20026 at 6pm ET. Show Topic: Digital Creator 2026 Money Playbook Content Creator's Business and Financial Strategies are moving faster than ever with video, audio podcasting, AI tools, and nonstop platform changes, but many are still running the business side like a hobby. The New Media Show with Rob Greenlee is joined live by Ralph Estep Jr, licensed accountant and host of The Content Creators Accountant, to break down the simple money systems creators need to turn creator chaos into calm financial clarity. If you earn from YouTube AdSense, brand deals and UGC, affiliate income, memberships and subscriptions, courses, coaching, digital products, or PayPal and Stripe payouts, this episode is built for you. Topics we cover: – How to separate business money from personal without overcomplicating it – How to track income across multiple platforms without headaches – How to set aside taxes automatically even in uneven months – How to make smarter gear decisions without wrecking cash flow – How to build simple repeatable financial systems that creators can follow – What to focus on in 2026 to run a real creator business that lasts – 2026 Podcast Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony on Jan 16th, 2026 Watch Live and Subscribe: New Media Show Website – https://newmediashow.com Rob Greenlee Website – https://robgreenlee.com Rob Greenlee YouTube – https://www.youtube.com/@RobGreenlee Podcast Hall of Fame – https://podcasthall.com Adore Creator Network – https://AdoreNetwork.com Passion Struck Network – https://PassionStruckNetwork.com Rob Greenlee LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/robgreenlee Book Rob Greenlee – https://calendly.com/robgreenlee Ralph Estep Jr Links: Content Creators Accountant Website and free resources https://contentcreatorsaccountant.com The Content Creators Accountant Podcast https://contentcreatorsaccountant.com/podcastThe post Digital Creator 2026 Money Playbook | Ralph Estep Jr. #647 first appeared on New Media Show.

The Cliff Ravenscraft Show - Mindset Answer Man
803 - Behind the Scenes of Bringing Podcast Answer Man and Podcasting A to Z Back

The Cliff Ravenscraft Show - Mindset Answer Man

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 5, 2026 66:53


In this episode, I share a full behind the scenes look at everything I have been working on since I made the decision to bring Podcast Answer Man and Podcasting A to Z back as a primary focus in my business. Episode 802 was the story of why this decision happened. This episode is the story of what actually happened next. Over the past month, I have been rebuilding, reconnecting, and reactivating an entire ecosystem that had been dormant for nearly a decade. In this conversation, I walk you through the real work behind the scenes. The relationships, the systems, the strategy, and the momentum that started moving the moment I committed to this direction. I talk about landing a speaking engagement at Podfest Expo and what that means for reconnecting with the podcasting community. I share how reconnecting with people like Nick Pavlidis and Rob Greenlee has already started opening doors and reconnecting relationships in the industry. I also walk through how Podcast Answer Man is now back on a true weekly publishing schedule. Every Friday at 12:01am Eastern Time, there is a new episode. I also announce that The Cliff Ravenscraft Show is now back to a weekly schedule as well. Every Monday at 12:01am Eastern Time, there will be a new episode focused on business strategy, mindset, and the behind the scenes of what I am building. I share some of the emotional responses I have already received from longtime listeners who heard the Podcast Answer Man intro music again for the first time in years. Those messages reminded me just how meaningful this work has been in people's lives for more than two decades. I also talk about the strategic decisions I have made to support this new season, including moving the Podcast Answer Man website to PodPage, setting up new affiliate partnerships, rebuilding the Podcasting A to Z sales page, and launching a new series of live interviews called Where Are They Now featuring former Podcasting A to Z students who are still creating content more than a decade later. A big part of this episode is dedicated to the work I have been doing behind the scenes on my email list. I explain why I moved back to ConvertKit, how I am rebuilding my email sequences, and how I am creating separate paths for people who want podcasting focused content and those who want business, mindset, and entrepreneurial content. This episode is a snapshot of a turning point. It captures what it looks like when an idea becomes a commitment and when momentum starts to build. If you want the deeper story of why Podcast Answer Man came back, listen to Episode 802. If you want to understand how everything is now being built to support that decision, this episode is the next chapter. Thank you for being here and for walking with me through this season of growth and realignment. Links Mentioned In This Episode Podcast Answer Man https://PodcastAnswerMan.com Podcast Answer Man Episode 477 Why I Moved the Podcast Answer Man Website to PodPage https://PodcastAnswerMan.com/477 Podfest Expo https://PodfestExpo.com Use promo code PAM for 10 percent off tickets Podcasting A to Z https://PodcastingAtoZ.com PodPage https://PodcastAnswerMan.com/podpage ConvertKit (Kit) https://PodcastAnswerMan.com/kit Kajabi https://PodcastAnswerMan.com/kajabi What Are You Creating Podcast https://www.cliffravenscraft.com/podcasts/what-are-you-creating Free the Dream Keynote https://MindsetAnswerMan.com/free Podcasting A to Z If you have been thinking about starting a podcast or you already have one but feel stuck, this is your invitation. Podcasting A to Z is my four week live coaching program where I personally walk you through every step of launching or refining your podcast. You get direct access to me, weekly group coaching calls, and the ability to ask as many questions as you want. I will answer every single one. The next session begins January 26. If you are ready to finally put your voice into the world or take your existing podcast to a higher level, go to PodcastingAtoZ.com and join me. This is a guided experience where you have me as your coach. I would love to work with you.

Ask the Podcast Coach
Is It a Podcast Without an RSS Feed? The Great Debate

Ask the Podcast Coach

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 21, 2025 89:11


Send us feedback/questions via TextWelcome to another episode of Ask the Podcast Coach! I'm Dave Jackson from School of Podcasting, joined by podcasting legend Rob Greenlee from the New Media Show. In today's episode, we dive into a ton of topics ranging from the definition of a podcast to AI-generated content, and industry trends. Sponsors:PodcastBranding.co - They see you before they hear youBasedonastruestorypodcast.com - Comparing Hollywood with History?Video Version (unedited)Mentioned In This EpisodeSchool of Podcastinghttps://www.schoolofpodcasting.com/joinPodpagehttp://www.trypodpage.comNew Media Showhttps://www.newmediashow.comPodcaster Hall of Famehttps://www.podcasthof.comPod SEOhttps://www.podseo.com (use coupon schoolofpodcasting )Answer Socrateshttps://answersocrates.com?via=sopAnswer the Publichttps://www.answerthepublic.comFeatured Supporter: Shane from SpybraryWe interview spy authors, espionage historians and fans of spy books, spy movies and spy TV series! Check it out at https://spybrary.com/ Podcast Hot Seat Black Friday DealNot happy with your downloads? Get some honest, constructive, feedback to get your show going in the right direction AND get a free month at the School of Podcasting (now through the end of the year). Take advantage of this black friday deal and get your podcast going in the right direction. Go to podcasthotseat.com Leave Your QuestionGo to askthepodcastcoach.com/voicemail and leave your message to be answered on the next show.PodMatchPodMatch Automatically Matches Ideal Podcast Guests and Hosts For InterviewsSupport the showBE AWESOME!Thanks for listening to the show. Help the show continue to exist and get a shout-out on the show by becoming an awesome supporter by going to askthepodcastcoach.com/awesome

New Media Show (Video)
Making a Pro Level Live or Recorded Show – New Media Show #644

New Media Show (Video)

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 12, 2025 82:56


In the December 10th, 2025 Live episode of The New Media Show, host Rob Greenlee welcomes Mike Dell, VP at Blubrry Podcasting, as guest co-host for a grounded, practical conversation about what keeps a podcast growing long after the initial excitement fades. The episode opens with a sincere reflection on Todd's passing and the lasting impact he had on the community, along with the intention to honor his legacy in the months ahead. From there, Rob and Mike move into the core topic: why many podcasts and live shows start strong, then stall. They unpack how a lack of clarity and consistency often shows up as drifting topics, uneven pacing, and episodes that feel improvised in a way that does not serve the listener. Their argument is simple: sustainable shows are built, not stumbled into. Structure does not mean sounding scripted or robotic. It means defining a format your audience can recognize, returning to it reliably, and creating a repeatable experience that keeps people coming back. They also talk about how modern media habits are reshaping expectations. With short form video and endless scroll everywhere, audiences decide quickly whether to stay. Rob and Mike stress the importance of a strong opening, clear positioning, and content that delivers on what the title promises. They discuss video as part of the current landscape, but keep the focus on fundamentals like audio quality, intentional production choices, and making platform decisions that do not compromise the listener experience. Mike pulls in lessons from his own shows, including what he has learned from hyperlocal and niche content, and how community relevance can drive engagement in ways that surprise creators. The conversation highlights practical ways to increase interaction, including live chat, polls, and Q and A segments, not as gimmicks, but as tools to build a real sense of participation and belonging. They also touch on workflow improvements, handling technical issues gracefully, simplifying video production, and using on screen titles and lower thirds so viewers can easily follow along. By the end, the episode becomes a clear playbook for leveling up: know what your show is trying to achieve, design a format that supports that goal, respect attention early, keep the quality bar consistent, and build community in a way that invites people in instead of pushing them away. Rob Greenlee Rob Greenlee Website https://RobGreenlee.com New Media Show for Audio and Video RSS feeds https://NewMediaShow.com Adore Podcast Network https://AdoreNetwork.com Adore Creator Community on Skool https://Skool.com/AdoreNetwork Podcast Hall of Fame https://PodcastHall.com https://YouTube.com/@OfficialPodcastHallofFame The Pro Creator Playbook with Rob Greenlee Audio podcast https://www.adorenetwork.com/show/pro-creator-playbook-audio/ Video show https://www.adorenetwork.com/show/pro-creator-playbook-video/ Spoken Life Show https://www.adorenetwork.com/show/spoken-life-show/ Spoken Human show on YouTube https://YouTube.com/@spokenhuman Rob Greenlee YouTube channel https://YouTube.com/@RobGreenlee Mike Dell Blubrry Podcasting https://blubrry.com https://MikeDell.com Audio Chapters: 00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction 01:00 Reflecting on Podcasting Changes 01:25 The Importance of Podcast Structure 03:19 Balancing Planning and Spontaneity 04:58 Engaging the Audience 08:08 Navigating Algorithms and Goals 18:54 Hyperlocal and Niche Podcasting 34:26 Live Shows and Audience Interaction 42:34 Improving Podcasting Skills 43:03 Maintaining Authenticity in Production 43:32 Handling Technical Glitches 44:33 Simplifying Video Production 44:46 Using Streaming Platforms Effectively 48:52 Importance of Lower Thirds and Titles 50:12 Editing and Post-Production Tips 56:59 Building a Community 01:01:02 Engaging with Your Audience 01:07:51 Q&A Session 01:12:46 Final Thoughts and AnnouncementsThe post Making a Pro Level Live or Recorded Show – New Media Show #644 first appeared on New Media Show.

New Media Show (Video)
Rebooting the Show: Video, AI and Revenue #643

New Media Show (Video)

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 4, 2025


In this episode, we relaunch the New Media Show #643 with special guest Rob Walsh, VP of Libsyn. After a difficult last few months following the passing of longtime friend and co-host Todd Cochrane, The New Media Show officially returns with a fresh format and a familiar voice. In this reboot episode, we again talk candidly about the process of bringing the show back, honoring Todd's legacy, and where the podcasting industry is really headed in 2025 and beyond. Rob Greenlee and Rob Walch dig into the renewed 2026 Podcast Hall of Fame, why hosting it at Podfest Expo matters, and how this year's inductee class reflects both the early pioneers and today's global voices. They unpack what advertisers are actually buying right now, why mid sized loyal shows often outperform the “big names,” and how the shift from demographic targeting to psychographic and genre based buying is changing deals for creators at every level. The conversation also explores the rise of private communities and paid video ecosystems on platforms like Substack and Uscreen, plus the relaunch of NewMediaShow.com with a fully restored archive of nearly 600 past episodes. From YouTube and Spotify's “top podcast” charts to Apple's long running audio ecosystem, the two Robs wrestle with a core question: what truly counts as a podcast in an era where many YouTube only shows get labeled as such. They contrast audio first and video first strategies, debate download versus HLS streaming, and talk through how measurement, attribution, and IAB revenue reports reveal a still under valued ad market relative to radio and other media. Finally, they tackle the current wave of AI generated ads and shows, including legal requirements around disclosure and why so much AI content still feels soulless, even as tools get faster and more powerful. Whether you are an indie creator, a network executive, or someone who has followed The New Media Show for years, this reboot episode sets the tone for a new chapter that stays true to the show's roots while leaning hard into the realities of today's business of podcasting. Rob Greenlee Rob Greenlee website https://RobGreenlee.com New Media Show for Audio and Video RSS feeds https://NewMediaShow.com Adore Creator Network and shows hub https://AdoreNetwork.com Adore Creator Community on Skool https://Skool.com/AdoreNetwork Podcast Hall of Fame https://PodcastHall.com https://YouTube.com/@OfficialPodcastHallofFame The Pro Creator Playbook with Rob Greenlee Audio podcast https://www.adorenetwork.com/show/pro-creator-playbook-audio/ Video show https://www.adorenetwork.com/show/pro-creator-playbook-video/ Spoken Life Show https://www.adorenetwork.com/show/spoken-life-show/ Spoken Human show on YouTube https://YouTube.com/@spokenhuman Rob Greenlee YouTube channel https://YouTube.com/@RobGreenlee Rob Walch Libsyn podcast hosting and network https://libsyn.com Podcast411 with Rob Walch https://podcast411.com The post Rebooting the Show: Video, AI and Revenue #643 first appeared on New Media Show.

Creating a Brand
Ensuring Success in Podcasting | Glenn Hebert, Jaime Legagneur, Rob Greenlee

Creating a Brand

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 28, 2025 37:17 Transcription Available


There's a 94% failure rate among podcast hosts and podcast guests. Most people quit podcasting altogether before ever achieving any meaningful results. The reality is that it doesn't have to be this way! There's a way to ensure your success in podcasting! In this episode, Alex Sanfilippo talks with Rob Greenlee, Glenn Hebert, and Jaime Legagneur to learn the 3 key things that have led to their success as podcast hosts and guests. Get ready to start experiencing positive results from your podcasting efforts!MORE FROM THIS EPISODE: HTTPS://PODMATCH.COM/EP/355Chapters00:00 Introduction to Podcasting Legends05:26 The Importance of Commitment in Podcasting16:45 Continuous Improvement: The Key to Success27:56 Building Community Among ListenersTakeawaysLongevity plays a crucial role in podcasting success.Commitment to a consistent schedule is essential for growth.Starting with fewer episodes can help avoid burnout.Continuous improvement is key to enhancing podcast quality.Networking helps improve storytelling and presentation skills.Building a community fosters listener loyalty and engagement.Authenticity in hosting attracts and retains listeners.Feedback from a focus group can guide content improvement.Creating a space for community discussion enhances listener connection.Engaging with listeners post-episode strengthens relationships.MORE FROM THIS EPISODE: HTTPS://PODMATCH.COM/EP/355PodMatch has officially launched a podcast network for independent interview-based podcasts! To apply to be part of the network, please visit https://PodMatch.com/network and press the "Join Network" button in the top center of the screen. While you're there, be sure to check out some of the incredible shows in the network!

The Future Of Work
How Integrating New Media In Education Can Realistically Prepare Our Workforce With Rob Greenlee Founder of Spoken Life Media Episode 154

The Future Of Work

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 16, 2025 28:40


How might educational institutions begin to tap into new media tools to support and prepare students? Today we will discuss the importance of understanding the new forms of media being developed and how we can prepare our students to enter this new industry successfully. Founder of Spoken Life Media, Rob Greenlee, is here to fill us in on where education and new media should be overlapping. From valuable skill sets students should learn to school career centers where they can build their personal brands, there is so much potential. We'll break down the implementations needed to meet the demands of new, global media formats so we can give our students the most valuable knowledge possible. By integrating educational materials surrounding online media, like podcasting, we can help students connect to future employers and stay up-to-date with current news and trends.    Engage with us: LinkedIn, Instagram & Facebook: @PasadenaCityCollegeEWD Join our newsletter for more on this topic: ewdpulse.com Visit: PCC EWD website   More from Rob Greenlee:  Visit robgreenlee.com Visit www.adorenetwork.com  Listen to New Media Show Email: rob.greenlee@gmail.com  LinkedIn: @Rob Greenlee  Twitter: @robgreenlee   Partner with us! Contact our host, Salvatrice Cummo, directly: scummo@pasadena.edu Want to be a guest on the show? Click HERE to inquire about booking    Find the transcript of this episode here   Please rate us and leave us your thoughts and comments on Apple Podcasts; we'd love to hear from you!

The Feed The Official Libsyn Podcast
Memorial to Todd Cochrane on New Media Show

The Feed The Official Libsyn Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 11, 2025 66:08


Remembering our good friend Todd Cochrane.  This is a special feed drop of the memorial for Todd on the New Media Show, with Rob Greenlee, Adam Curry, Mike Dell, and Rob Walch.  Todd you will be greatly missed.  

Rejoice
Memorial to Todd Cochrane on New Media Show

Rejoice

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 11, 2025 66:08


Remembering our good friend Todd Cochrane.  This is a special feed drop of the memorial for Todd on the New Media Show, with Rob Greenlee, Adam Curry, Mike Dell, and Rob Walch.  Todd you will be greatly missed.  

Buzzcast
No Filter, All Heart: Remembering Todd Cochrane

Buzzcast

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 9, 2025 7:34 Transcription Available


Send us a textThe sudden passing of Todd Cochrane, Blubrry CEO and unwavering champion of independent podcasters, has left our community in shock and mourning. Having just spent meaningful time with Todd at Podcast Movement three weeks ago, we're grateful for those final conversations, booth visits, and moments in the Podcast Standards Project room.Don't miss the final memorial episode of the New Media Show this Wednesday at 3pm EST, where Rob Greenlee will be joined by Adam Curry, Mike Dell, and Rob Walch to honor Todd's extraordinary legacy.Contact Buzzcast Send us a text message Tweet us at @buzzcastpodcast, @albanbrooke, @kfinn, and @JordanPods Thanks for listening and Keep Podcasting!

New Media Show (Video)
Bryan Barletta of Podcast Movement: What's Next for the Show?

New Media Show (Video)

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 3, 2025 70:59 Transcription Available


The episode titled “Bryan Barletta of Podcast Movement: What's Next for the Show?” features hosts Todd Cochrane and Rob Greenlee, who welcome guest Bryan Barletta. The episode begins with Todd introducing Bryan and discussing the recent happenings at Podcast Movement following the event. Bryan expresses gratitude for Todd and Rob's previous discussions about Podcast Movement … Continue reading Bryan Barletta of Podcast Movement: What's Next for the Show? → The post Bryan Barletta of Podcast Movement: What's Next for the Show? appeared first on New Media Show.

New Media Show (Video)
Podcast Movement Recap and Insights #641

New Media Show (Video)

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 27, 2025 70:25 Transcription Available


In this episode titled “Podcast Movement Recap and Insights,” hosts Todd Cochrane and Rob Greenlee discuss their experiences and observations from the recent Podcast Movement conference held in Dallas. Todd has also posted a piece on Linkedin that has garnered nearly 8000 views. Todd kicks off the conversation by expressing gratitude for the listeners. Rob … Continue reading Podcast Movement Recap and Insights #641 → The post Podcast Movement Recap and Insights #641 appeared first on New Media Show.

New Media Show (Video)
Podcasting’s Future Is a Choice

New Media Show (Video)

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 14, 2025 59:01 Transcription Available


In this episode titled “Podcasting's Future Is Choice”, hosts Todd Cochrane and Rob Greenlee discuss various aspects of the podcasting industry, particularly surrounding the upcoming Podcast Movement event. The episode begins with Todd and Rob greeting each other and discussing their plans to attend the Podcast Movement conference. They discuss the costs associated with attending … Continue reading Podcasting's Future Is a Choice → The post Podcasting's Future Is a Choice appeared first on New Media Show.

Believe you can because you can!
How to Be More Human in the Age of AI (#809)

Believe you can because you can!

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 1, 2025 34:31


In a world where AI voices sound charming and algorithms create endless content, what makes you unique? Rob Greenlee, a host of Hall of Famer and Spoken Human—to talk about something that machines can't fake: real humanity. We explore the superpower of human voice, the art of emotional storytelling, and why vulnerability might just be…

New Media Show (Video)
Overcast quietly tests built-in transcripts!

New Media Show (Video)

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 31, 2025 70:54 Transcription Available


In the latest episode of the New Media Show, hosted by Todd Cochrane and Rob Greenlee, the discussion begins with a light greeting and banter about upcoming events, particularly Todd's anticipated return to the United States and the podcast movement. They briefly touch on the advertising campaigns Todd has been involved with on PodNews and … Continue reading Overcast quietly tests built-in transcripts! → The post Overcast quietly tests built-in transcripts! appeared first on New Media Show.

Passage to Profit Show
Can AI Steal Your Words and Still Be Legal?

Passage to Profit Show

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 25, 2025 9:35


A bombshell ruling from a San Francisco court just changed the game for creators and AI companies alike. In this segment of "Intellectual Property News" on Passage to Profit Show, we dive into how Anthropic allegedly scraped 7 million pirated books to train its AI—and why the judge's mixed ruling could shape the future of copyright law and content ownership. If you create anything—books, blogs, software, podcasts—this is a must-listen. The panel unpacks what it means for your IP, your business model, and the fight for ethical AI.   Richard Gearhart and Elizabeth Gearhart, co-hosts of Passage to Profit Show have this discussion with podcasting and digital media expert Rob Greenlee, global beauty specialist Tania Crawford and Michael Tomao from Service Level Advisors.     Whether you're a seasoned entrepreneur, a startup, an inventor, an innovator, a small business or just starting your entrepreneurial journey, tune into Passage to Profit Show for compelling discussions, real-life examples, and expert advice on entrepreneurship, intellectual property, trademarks and more. Visit https://passagetoprofitshow.com/ for the latest updates and episodes. Chapters (00:00:02) - Passage to Profit(00:00:37) - The Big Thing in AI Intellectual Property(00:03:23) - Artificial Intelligence Creates Distributed Content(00:08:00) - Passing to Profit

New Media Show (Video)
Independent Podcasts Build Massive Annual Revenue

New Media Show (Video)

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 24, 2025 62:03 Transcription Available


In this episode of “The New Media Show,” hosts Todd Cochrane and Rob Greenlee discuss various aspects of independent podcasting, referencing the financial success of the Joe Budden Network, which reportedly makes over a million dollars a month on Patreon plus an equal amount in advertising revenue. Todd expresses his views on what constitutes an … Continue reading Independent Podcasts Build Massive Annual Revenue → The post Independent Podcasts Build Massive Annual Revenue appeared first on New Media Show.

Passage to Profit Show
Entrepreneurs: Making Money with AI in Media with Rob Greenlee + Others (Full Episode)

Passage to Profit Show

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 21, 2025 71:42


Richard Gearhart and Elizabeth Gearhart, co-hosts of Passage to Profit Show interview podcasting and digital media expert Rob Greenlee, global beauty specialist Tania Crawford and Michael Tomao from Service Level Advisors.   Podcasting legend Rob Greenlee joins us to explore how AI is revolutionizing content creation—and what that means for entrepreneurs. From AI-generated co-hosts to instant, hyper-targeted advertising, Rob shares insider insights on where media is heading and how founders can stay ahead of the curve. Read more at: https://robgreenlee.com/   Tania Crawford is a global beauty specialist, ranked in the top 2% of elite hair extensionist worldwide. From award-winning artistry to helping stylists build $500K+ businesses, Tania is transforming the beauty industry one breakthrough at a time. Read more at: https://taniacrawfordedu.com/     Matthew Tomao is the CEO and founder of Service Level Advisors, the go-to expert for helping security and AV integrators turn service agreements into multi-million-dollar recurring revenue streams. He's helped clients go from zero to $7M+ in RMR using a proven system that delivers fast, scalable results. Read more at: https://www.sladvisers.net/       Whether you're a seasoned entrepreneur, a startup, an inventor, an innovator, a small business or just starting your entrepreneurial journey, tune into Passage to Profit Show for compelling discussions, real-life examples, and expert advice on entrepreneurship, intellectual property, trademarks and more. Visit https://passagetoprofitshow.com/ for the latest updates and episodes. Chapters (00:00:00) - How to Build a Six-Figure Business(00:00:27) - Passage to Profit(00:02:02) - The Big Risk You Take When Starting a Business(00:03:33) - Tamia Crawford on Taking a Risk(00:04:54) - AI Shaping the Future of Media(00:10:42) - How Will AI Change Advertising and Media?(00:12:53) - The Investment Value of Gold(00:13:55) - The Cruise Line Hotline(00:14:53) - The Great Grapes of Podcasting(00:16:45) - Are We Ready for the Rise of AI Voices?(00:20:33) - Will AI Replace Humans in the Content Industry?(00:24:38) - Where Do People Find Rob Greenlee?(00:25:10) - AI Creators Win in the Court(00:27:55) - Artificial Intelligence Creators: Should They Be Protected?(00:32:32) - Passage to Profit(00:36:09) - Elizabeth Spotlight(00:38:13) - Dr. Patel on AI's Impact on Medical Scans(00:40:47) - Tania Crawford on How to Make Money From Hair Extensions(00:41:45) - What motivated you to get started?(00:44:19) - What Do You Teach Your Clients to Improve Their Efficiency?(00:47:51) - How Your AI Is Helping You Find Your Clients(00:49:31) - How AI Is Advancing Businesses(00:51:40) - What do you think is the biggest challenge that people who are running(00:52:48) - How to Get Out of Your Skin in the Film Industry(00:53:56) - Software Business Owners on Reoccurring Revenue(00:57:41) - Matt Kearney on His Challenges(00:59:43) - Service Agreement(01:00:58) - Do You Ever Give Advice to Your Clients?(01:04:59) - Personal Injury Lawyers(01:06:04) - Real or a fake?(01:07:02) - Secret to the Entrepreneurial Mind(01:08:25) - Copyright and Intellectual Property: How to Win

New Media Show (Video)
Adam Curry Returns and Spotify’s Seven Million Shows – LOL

New Media Show (Video)

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 17, 2025 61:05 Transcription Available


In this episode titled “Adam Curry Returns and Spotify's Seven Million Shows,” hosts Todd Cochrane and Rob Greenlee welcome listeners to the new media show. Rob expresses his excitement about discussing various topics, particularly noting the significant milestone of seven million podcasts, mainly attributed to Spotify (wink)(wink). As they delve into the numbers, Todd and … Continue reading Adam Curry Returns and Spotify's Seven Million Shows – LOL → The post Adam Curry Returns and Spotify's Seven Million Shows – LOL appeared first on New Media Show.

New Media Show (Video)
Additional Video Podcast Format via RSS

New Media Show (Video)

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 10, 2025 65:04 Transcription Available


In this episode of “The New Media Show,” hosted by Todd Cochrane and Rob Greenlee, the discussion centers on various topics in the podcasting space, with a particular focus on the emerging interest in video podcasting publishing formats. The episode starts with Todd welcoming listeners and mentioning that Rob has joined him for the episode. … Continue reading Additional Video Podcast Format via RSS → The post Additional Video Podcast Format via RSS appeared first on New Media Show.

New Media Show (Video)
Podcasting Pulse: Live Festivals Surge, Awards Voting Opens & Apple Turns 20

New Media Show (Video)

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 3, 2025 63:42 Transcription Available


In this episode of “The New Media Show,” hosts Todd Cochrane and Rob Greenlee discuss various developments in the podcasting industry, including the surge of live festivals, the opening of awards voting, and Apple's 20th anniversary of supporting podcasts. The episode begins with Todd and Rob checking in with each other, with Todd sharing updates … Continue reading Podcasting Pulse: Live Festivals Surge, Awards Voting Opens & Apple Turns 20 → The post Podcasting Pulse: Live Festivals Surge, Awards Voting Opens & Apple Turns 20 appeared first on New Media Show.

New Media Show (Video)
Expanding Podcast Image Standards for a Better Cross-App Experience

New Media Show (Video)

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 25, 2025 46:02 Transcription Available


In the podcast episode titled “Expanding Podcast Image Standards for a Better Cross-App Experience,” host Todd Cochrane starts by welcoming listeners to the show. He mentions that Rob Greenlee is absent due to personal business but will return next week. Todd expresses his gratitude to both live listeners and those tuning in later. Todd discusses … Continue reading Expanding Podcast Image Standards for a Better Cross-App Experience → The post Expanding Podcast Image Standards for a Better Cross-App Experience appeared first on New Media Show.

New Media Show (Video)
YouTube isn’t Podcasting King

New Media Show (Video)

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 11, 2025 75:03 Transcription Available


In this episode of “The New Media Show,” hosts Todd Cochrane and Rob Greenlee discuss the evolving landscape of podcasting, with a focus on the interplay between audio and video content, especially addressing the question of whether YouTube is dominating the podcasting space. The episode opens with Todd welcoming Rob back from a trip to … Continue reading YouTube isn't Podcasting King → The post YouTube isn't Podcasting King appeared first on New Media Show.

The Sound Off Podcast
Rob Greenlee: What Is A Podcast in 2025?

The Sound Off Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 3, 2025 55:03


What is a podcast in 2025? We called in Rob Greenlee to provide insights into the evolving landscape of podcasting, focusing on the rise of video podcasting. He discusses how platforms like YouTube and Spotify are reshaping the industry, challenging traditional RSS-based distribution. We tried to land on the definition of a podcast, emphasizing content over distribution method.We talked metrics, monetization, and content creation for new podcasters. Rob highlighted the importance of personal branding and adapting to technological changes, including the potential impact of AI on media. The group debates the future of local podcasting and the difficulties creators face in generating revenue. Things are changing. Fast.⁠⁠A full transcription of the episode is available on our website.⁠⁠Check out more from the Superfriends below:Johnny Peterson - ⁠⁠⁠Johnny Podcasts⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠https://www.johnnypodcasts.com⁠⁠⁠Catherine O'Brien -⁠⁠⁠ Branch Out Programs ⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠https://www.branchoutprograms.com/⁠⁠⁠ Jon Gay: Jag in Detroit ⁠⁠⁠https://www.jagindetroit.com⁠⁠⁠David Yas: Pod 617 -⁠⁠⁠ The Boston Podcast Network⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠https://www.pod617.com/⁠⁠⁠Matt Cundill - ⁠⁠⁠The Sound Off Media Company⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠https://soundoff.network⁠⁠⁠ Please sign up for the SOUNDING OFF Newsletter. Full of all the things you never knew what you were missing in your life.Both the Sound Off Podcast and The Podcast Superfriends are apart of The Open Podcast Prefix Project (OP3) A free and open-source podcast prefix analytics service committed to open data and listener privacy. You can be a nosey parker by checking out our downloads here.Thanks to the following organizations for supporting the show:Nlogic - TV & Radio Audience Data SolutionsMary Anne Ivison at Ivison Voice. - Make her the female voice of your radio station.Megatrax - Licensed Music for your radio station or podcast production company.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

New Media Show (Video)
New Media Show – Is this the End?

New Media Show (Video)

Play Episode Listen Later May 28, 2025 120:50 Transcription Available


In the episode titled “New Media Show – Is this the End,” hosts Todd Cochrane and Rob Greenlee discuss the state of the podcasting industry, particularly in light of recent changes and trends. Todd opens the conversation with a metaphor about everything being “on fire” in the podcasting space, emphasizing a sense of urgency and … Continue reading New Media Show – Is this the End? → The post New Media Show – Is this the End? appeared first on New Media Show.

The Casey Adams Show
Rob Greenlee – 20 Years of Podcasting Wisdom and the Future of the Industry

The Casey Adams Show

Play Episode Listen Later May 14, 2025 47:25


On today's episode of The Casey Adams Show, I sit down with Rob Greenlee — a 20-year podcasting veteran and one of the most influential voices in the space. From leading roles at Microsoft, Libsyn, PodcastOne, and Spreaker, to helping shape the very fabric of the industry through The Podcast Academy and the Podcast Hall of Fame, Rob has been at the forefront of podcasting's evolution.We discuss the early days of the medium, the rise of SaaS platforms in podcasting, and how video, distribution, and monetization have transformed over the past two decades. Rob also shares his insights on where the industry is headed, the importance of trust and authenticity in creator communities, and why podcasting is still one of the most open and innovative media formats in the world.Whether you're a creator, founder, or someone watching this space closely, this episode is filled with rare industry wisdom from someone who's helped shape podcasting from the inside out.Learn more about Rob Greenlee: https://robgreenlee.com/Chapters00:00 Introduction to Podcasting and Rob Greenlee's Journey04:43 The Evolution of Podcasting and Community Building09:47 Reflections on the Growth of Podcasting12:09 The Cultural Impact of Podcasting Today17:42 The Convergence of Audio and Video in Podcasting22:50 Insights from Podcast Technology Companies and M&A Trends26:40 The Evolution of Listener Control29:36 The Importance of Being a Great Listener32:30 Navigating the Podcasting Landscape36:15 The Shift Towards Video in Podcasting40:44 The Future of Podcasting Deals and M&A42:30 Building Networks for Content Creators

New Media Show (Video)
The Shift from Word-of-Mouth to Social Media in Podcasting #628

New Media Show (Video)

Play Episode Listen Later May 8, 2025 92:56


In this episode, “The Shift from Word-of-Mouth to Social Media in Podcasting,” hosts Todd Cochrane and Rob Greenlee discuss the evolving landscape of podcast discovery, particularly how social media is becoming a primary driver rather than traditional word-of-mouth. The episode opens with Todd and Rob greeting listeners and mentioning the upcoming return to their regular … Continue reading The Shift from Word-of-Mouth to Social Media in Podcasting #628 → The post The Shift from Word-of-Mouth to Social Media in Podcasting #628 appeared first on New Media Show.

New Media Show (Video)
The Growing Ad Revenue in Podcasting

New Media Show (Video)

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 24, 2025 94:49 Transcription Available


In this episode titled “The Growing Ad Revenue in Podcasting,” hosts Todd Cochrane and Rob Greenlee discuss various insights related to the podcast industry's current state, including recent earnings reports and trends in advertising revenue. The episode begins with a casual greeting between Todd and Rob, where Todd shares that he is sleeping late due … Continue reading The Growing Ad Revenue in Podcasting → The post The Growing Ad Revenue in Podcasting appeared first on New Media Show.

New Media Show (Video)
Women in Podcasting and the Rise of Female Listeners

New Media Show (Video)

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 17, 2025 91:36 Transcription Available


In this episode of the New Media Show, hosts Todd Cochrane and Rob Greenlee come together to discuss various topics including growth in podcast listening among women, deep fakes, and AI assistants. The episode opens with Todd welcoming Rob back, explaining that he has been on vacation. Todd mentions a recent situation involving deep fakes, … Continue reading Women in Podcasting and the Rise of Female Listeners → The post Women in Podcasting and the Rise of Female Listeners appeared first on New Media Show.

Believe you can because you can!
Ultimate guide to mastering digital strategy with Rob Greenlee (#766)

Believe you can because you can!

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 28, 2025 32:43


Super excited to have the opportunity to speak with Rob today. Rob is the Founder of Spoken Life Media, LLC, Host of “Podcast Tips with Rob Greenlee” LIVE streamed every Thursday, 7 pm EST on Rob Greenlee Channels, and Host of Spoken Life Show and Co-Founder/Adviser, PodcastEZ.comWelcome to the Unmiss Podcast, your ultimate guide to…