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Today in the business of podcasting: PRX has acquired Soundrise, Spotify has a lot of new news, Rooster Teeth joins the growing community of creator-owned publishers, SoundStack launches HLS streaming capabilities, and coverage of Podcast Upfront influencer discussion.Find links to every article covered by heading to the Download section of SoundsProfitable.com, or by clicking here to go directly to today's installment.

Today in the business of podcasting: PRX has acquired Soundrise, Spotify has a lot of new news, Rooster Teeth joins the growing community of creator-owned publishers, SoundStack launches HLS streaming capabilities, and coverage of Podcast Upfront influencer discussion.Find links to every article covered by heading to the Download section of SoundsProfitable.com, or by clicking here to go directly to today's installment.

Episode Title: Best Film & TV Coaches – Featuring Cam Awesome When it comes to coaches who shaped characters and culture, we've got opinions—and this week on The My Five Cents Podcast, hosts SoSo Juv, HLS, and Logical Genius step into the ring with none other than Cam Awesome to debate the Best Film & TV Coaches of All Time. Cam isn't just a guest—he's a force of nature. A 12-time national boxing champ, 3-time Olympic Trials winner, and the former captain of Team USA, Cam went from a bullied kid with a busted MP3 player to becoming one of the most decorated amateur boxers in U.S. history. After a suspension derailed his Olympic dreams in 2012, Cam rewired his mindset and came back swinging—winning three more national titles and qualifying for the 2016 Games. Now? He's a motivational speaker, stand-up comic, and unapologetic truth-teller using humor and raw honesty to explore resilience, masculinity, plant-based performance, and bouncing back from failure without losing yourself. In this episode, Cam joins the hosts to debate which fictional coaches actually coached up greatness—whether it's pushing underdogs to glory or breaking players down to build them back stronger. From inspirational speeches to next-level playbooks, the squad ranks their top 5 picks—and with Cam's unique perspective as a real-life elite athlete and mental health advocate, expect unfiltered insights and unexpected laughs.

Welcome to another MIMS episode with HL- wait a second it's not HLS. Something must be wrong! Listen as the third place loser makes sense of what travesty transpired!

Francois Daost is a W3C staff member and co-chair of the Web Developer Experience Community Group. We discuss the W3C's role and what it's like to go through the browser standardization process. Related links W3C TC39 Internet Engineering Task Force Web Hypertext Application Technology Working Group (WHATWG) Horizontal Groups Alliance for Open Media What is MPEG-DASH? | HLS vs. DASH Information about W3C and Encrypted Media Extensions (EME) Widevine PlayReady Media Source API Encrypted Media Extensions API requestVideoFrameCallback() Business Benefits of the W3C Patent Policy web.dev Baseline Portable Network Graphics Specification Internet Explorer 6 CSS Vendor Prefix WebRTC Transcript You can help correct transcripts on GitHub. Intro [00:00:00] Jeremy: today I'm talking to Francois Daoust. He's a staff member at the W3C. And we're gonna talk about the W3C and the recommendation process and discuss, Francois's experience with, with how these features end up in our browsers. [00:00:16] Jeremy: So, Francois, welcome [00:00:18] Francois: Thank you Jeremy and uh, many thanks for the invitation. I'm really thrilled to be part of this podcast. What's the W3C? [00:00:26] Jeremy: I think many of our listeners will have heard about the W3C, but they may not actually know what it is. So could you start by explaining what it is? [00:00:37] Francois: Sure. So W3C stands for the Worldwide Web Consortium. It's a standardization organization. I guess that's how people should think about W3C. it was created in 1994. I, by, uh, Tim Berners Lee, who was the inventor of the web. Tim Berners Lee was the, director of W3C for a long, long time. [00:01:00] Francois: He retired not long ago, a few years back. and W3C is, has, uh, a number of, uh. Properties, let's say first the goal is to produce royalty free standards, and that's very important. Uh, we want to make sure that, uh, the standard that get produced can be used and implemented without having to pay, fees to anyone. [00:01:23] Francois: We do web standards. I didn't mention it, but it's from the name. Standards that you find in your web browsers. But not only that, there are a number of other, uh, standards that got developed at W3C including, for example, XML. Data related standards. W3C as an organization is a consortium. [00:01:43] Francois: The, the C stands for consortium. Legally speaking, it's a, it's a 501c3 meaning in, so it's a US based, uh, legal entity not for profit. And the, the little three is important because it means it's public interest. That means we are a consortium, that means we have members, but at the same time, the goal, the mission is to the public. [00:02:05] Francois: So we're not only just, you know, doing what our members want. We are also making sure that what our members want is aligned with what end users in the end, need. and the W3C has a small team. And so I'm part of this, uh, of this team worldwide. Uh, 45 to 55 people, depending on how you count, mostly technical people and some, uh, admin, uh, as well, overseeing the, uh, the work, that we do, uh, at the W3C. Funding through membership fees [00:02:39] Jeremy: So you mentioned there's 45 to 55 people. How is this funded? Is this from governments or commercial companies? [00:02:47] Francois: The main source comes from membership fees. So the W3C has a, so members, uh, roughly 350 members, uh, at the W3C. And, in order to become a member, an organization needs to pay, uh, an annual membership fee. That's pretty common among, uh, standardization, uh, organizations. [00:03:07] Francois: And, we only have, uh, I guess three levels of membership, fees. Uh, well, you may find, uh, additional small levels, but three main ones. the goal is to make sure that, A big player will, not a big player or large company, will not have more rights than, uh, anything, anyone else. So we try to make sure that a member has the, you know, all members have equal, right? [00:03:30] Francois: if it's not perfect, but, uh, uh, that's how things are, are are set. So that's the main source of income for the W3C. And then we try to diversify just a little bit to get, uh, for example, we go to governments. We may go to governments in the u EU. We may, uh, take some, uh, grant for EU research projects that allow us, you know, to, study, explore topics. [00:03:54] Francois: Uh, in the US there, there used to be some, uh, some funding from coming from the government as well. So that, that's, uh, also, uh, a source. But the main one is, uh, membership fees. Relations to TC39, IETF, and WHATWG [00:04:04] Jeremy: And you mentioned that a lot of the W3C'S work is related to web standards. There's other groups like TC 39, which works on the JavaScript spec and the IETF, which I believe worked, with your group on WebRTC, I wonder if you could explain W3C'S connection to other groups like that. [00:04:28] Francois: sure. we try to collaborate with a, a number of, uh, standard other standardization organizations. So in general, everything goes well because you, you have, a clear separation of concerns. So you mentioned TC 39. Indeed. they are the ones who standardize, JavaScript. Proper name of JavaScript is the EcmaScript. [00:04:47] Francois: So that's tc. TC 39 is the technical committee at ecma. and so we have indeed interactions with them because their work directly impact the JavaScript that you're going to find in your, uh, run in your, in your web browser. And we develop a number of JavaScript APIs, uh, actually in W3C. [00:05:05] Francois: So we need to make sure that, the way we develop, uh, you know, these APIs align with the, the language itself. with IETF, the, the, the boundary is, uh, uh, is clear as well. It's a protocol and protocol for our network protocols for our, the IETF and application level. For W3C, that's usually how the distinction is made. [00:05:28] Francois: The boundaries are always a bit fuzzy, but that's how things work. And usually, uh, things work pretty well. Uh, there's also the WHATWG, uh, and the WHATWG is more the, the, the history was more complicated because, uh, t of a fork of the, uh, HTML specification, uh, at the time when it was developed by W3C, a long time ago. [00:05:49] Francois: And there was been some, uh, Well disagreement on the way things should have been done, and the WHATWG took over got created, took, took this the HTML spec and did it a different way. Went in another, another direction, and that other, other direction actually ended up being the direction. [00:06:06] Francois: So, that's a success, uh, from there. And so, W3C no longer works, no longer owns the, uh, HTML spec and the WHATWG has, uh, taken, uh, taken up a number of, uh, of different, core specifications for the web. Uh, doing a lot of work on the, uh, on interopoerability and making sure that, uh, the algorithm specified by the spec, were correct, which, which was something that historically we haven't been very good at at W3C. [00:06:35] Francois: And the way they've been working as a, has a lot of influence on the way we develop now, uh, the APIs, uh, from a W3C perspective. [00:06:44] Jeremy: So, just to make sure I understand correctly, you have TC 39, which is focused on the JavaScript or ECMAScript language itself, and you have APIs that are going to use JavaScript and interact with JavaScript. So you need to coordinate there. The, the have the specification for HTML. then the IATF, they are, I'm not sure if the right term would be, they, they would be one level lower perhaps, than the W3C. [00:07:17] Francois: That's how you, you can formulate it. Yes. The, the one layer, one layer layer in the ISO network in the ISO stack at the network level. How WebRTC spans the IETF and W3C [00:07:30] Jeremy: And so in that case, one place I've heard it mentioned is that webRTC, to, to use it, there is an IETF specification, and then perhaps there's a W3C recommendation and [00:07:43] Francois: Yes. so when we created the webRTC working group, that was in 2011, I think, it was created with a dual head. There was one RTC web, group that got created at IETF and a webRTC group that got created at W3C. And that was done on purpose. Of course, the goal was not to compete on the, on the solution, but actually to, have the two sides of the, uh, solution, be developed in parallel, the API, uh, the application front and the network front. [00:08:15] Francois: And there was a, and there's still a lot of overlap in, uh, participation between both groups, and that's what keep things successful. In the end. It's not, uh, you know, process or organization to organization, uh, relationships, coordination at the organization level. It's really the fact that you have participants that are essentially the same, on both sides of the equation. [00:08:36] Francois: That helps, uh, move things forward. Now, webRTC is, uh, is more complex than just one group at IETF. I mean, web, webRTC is a very complex set of, uh, of technologies, stack of technologies. So when you, when you. Pull a little, uh, protocol from IETFs. Suddenly you have the whole IETF that comes with you with it. [00:08:56] Francois: So you, it's the, you have the feeling that webRTC needs all of the, uh, internet protocols that got, uh, created to work Recommendations [00:09:04] Jeremy: And I think probably a lot of web developers, they may hear words like specification or standard, but I believe the, the official term, at least at the W3C, is this recommendation. And so I wonder if you can explain what that means. [00:09:24] Francois: Well. It means it means standard in the end. and that came from industry. That comes from a time where. As many standardization organizations. W3C was created not to be a standardization organization. It was felt that standard was not the right term because we were not a standardization organization. [00:09:45] Francois: So recommend IETF has the same thing. They call it RFC, request for comment, which, you know, stands for nothing in, and yet it's a standard. So W3C was created with the same kind of, uh thing. We needed some other terminology and we call that recommendation. But in the end, that's standard. It's really, uh, how you should see it. [00:10:08] Francois: And one thing I didn't mention when I, uh, introduced the W3C is there are two types of standards in the end, two main categories. There are, the de jure standards and defacto standards, two families. The de jure standards are the ones that are imposed by some kind of regulation. so it's really usually a standard you see imposed by governments, for example. [00:10:29] Francois: So when you look at your electric plug at home, there's some regulation there that says, this plug needs to have these properties. And that's a standard that gets imposed. It's a de jure standard. and then there are defacto standards which are really, uh, specifications that are out there and people agree to use it to implement it. [00:10:49] Francois: And by virtue of being used and implemented and used by everyone, they become standards. the, W3C really is in the, uh, second part. It's a defacto standard. IETF is the same thing. some of our standards are used in, uh, are referenced in regulations now, but, just a, a minority of them, most of them are defacto standards. [00:11:10] Francois: and that's important because that's in the end, it doesn't matter what the specific specification says, even though it's a bit confusing. What matters is that the, what the specifications says matches what implementations actually implement, and that these implementations are used, and are used interoperably across, you know, across browsers, for example, or across, uh, implementations, across users, across usages. [00:11:36] Francois: So, uh, standardization is a, is a lengthy process. The recommendation is the final stage in that, lengthy process. More and more we don't really reach recommendation anymore. If you look at, uh, at groups, uh, because we have another path, let's say we kind of, uh, we can stop at candidate recommendation, which is in theoretically a step before that. [00:12:02] Francois: But then you, you can stay there and, uh, stay there forever and publish new candidate recommendations. Um, uh, later on. What matters again is that, you know, you get this, virtuous feedback loop, uh, with implementers, and usage. [00:12:18] Jeremy: So if the candidate recommendation ends up being implemented by all the browsers, what's ends up being the distinction between a candidate and one that's a normal recommendation. [00:12:31] Francois: So, today it's mostly a process thing. Some groups actually decide to go to rec Some groups decide to stay at candidate rec and there's no formal difference between the, the two. we've made sure we've adopted, adjusted the process so that the important bits that, applied at the recommendation level now apply at the candidate rec level. Royalty free patent access [00:13:00] Francois: And by important things, I mean the patent commitments typically, uh, the patent policy fully applies at the candidate recommendation level so that you get your, protection, the royalty free patent protection that we, we were aiming at. [00:13:14] Francois: Some people do not care, you know, but most of the world still works with, uh, with patents, uh, for good, uh, or bad reasons. But, uh, uh, that's how things work. So we need to make, we're trying to make sure that we, we secure the right set of, um, of patent commitments from the right set of stakeholders. [00:13:35] Jeremy: Oh, so when someone implements a W3C recommendation or a candidate recommendation, the patent holders related to that recommendation, they basically agree to allow royalty-free use of that patent. [00:13:54] Francois: They do the one that were involved in the working group, of course, I mean, we can't say anything about the companies out there that may have patents and uh, are not part of this standardization process. So there's always, It's a remaining risk. but part of the goal when we create a working group is to make sure that, people understand the scope. [00:14:17] Francois: Lawyers look into it, and the, the legal teams that exist at the all the large companies, basically gave a green light saying, yeah, we, we we're pretty confident that we, we know where the patterns are on this particular, this particular area. And we are fine also, uh, letting go of the, the patterns we own ourselves. Implementations are built in parallel with standardization [00:14:39] Jeremy: And I think you had mentioned. What ends up being the most important is that the browser creators implement these recommendations. So it sounds like maybe the distinction between candidate recommendation and recommendation almost doesn't matter as long as you get the end result you want. [00:15:03] Francois: So, I mean, people will have different opinions, uh, in the, in standardization circles. And I mentioned also W3C is working on other kind of, uh, standards. So, uh, in some other areas, the nuance may be more important when we, but when, when you look at specification, that's target, web browsers. we've switched from a model where, specs were developed first and then implemented to a model where specs and implementing implementations are being, worked in parallel. [00:15:35] Francois: This actually relates to the evolution I was mentioning with the WHATWG taking over the HTML and, uh, focusing on the interoperability issues because the starting point was, yeah, we have an HTML 4.01 spec, uh, but it's not interoperable because it, it's not specified, are number of areas that are gray areas, you can implement them differently. [00:15:59] Francois: And so there are interoperable issues. Back to candidate rec actually, the, the, the, the stage was created, if I remember correctly. uh, if I'm, if I'm not wrong, the stage was created following the, uh, IE problem. In the CSS working group, IE6, uh, shipped with some, version of a CSS that was in the, as specified, you know, the spec was saying, you know, do that for the CSS box model. [00:16:27] Francois: And the IE6 was following that. And then the group decided to change, the box model and suddenly IE6 was no longer compliant. And that created a, a huge mess on the, in the history of, uh, of the web in a way. And so the, we, the, the, the, the candidate recommendation sta uh, stage was introduced following that to try to catch this kind of problems. [00:16:52] Francois: But nowadays, again, we, we switch to another model where it's more live. and so we, you, you'll find a number of specs that are not even at candidate rec level. They are at the, what we call a working draft, and they, they are being implemented, and if all goes well, the standardization process follows the implementation, and then you end up in a situation where you have your candidate rec when the, uh, spec ships. [00:17:18] Francois: a recent example would be a web GPU, for example. It, uh, it has shipped in, uh, in, in Chrome shortly before it transition to a candidate rec. But the, the, the spec was already stable. and now it's shipping uh, in, uh, in different browsers, uh, uh, safari, uh, and uh, and uh, and uh, Firefox. And so that's, uh, and that's a good example of something that follows, uh, things, uh, along pretty well. But then you have other specs such as, uh, in the media space, uh, request video frame back, uh, frame, call back, uh, requestVideoFrameCallback() is a short API that allows you to get, you know, a call back whenever the, the browser renders a video frame, essentially. [00:18:01] Francois: And that spec is implemented across browsers. But from a W3C specific, perspective, it does not even exist. It's not on the standardization track. It's still being incubated in what we call a community group, which is, you know, some something that, uh, usually exists before. we move to the, the standardization process. [00:18:21] Francois: So there, there are examples of things where some things fell through the cracks. All the standardization process, uh, is either too early or too late and things that are in spec are not exactly what what got implemented or implementations are too early in the process. We we're doing a better job, at, Not falling into a trap where someone ships, uh, you know, an implementation and then suddenly everything is frozen. You can no longer, change it because it's too late, it shipped. we've tried, different, path there. Um, mentioned CSS, the, there was this kind of vendor prefixed, uh, properties that used to be, uh, the way, uh, browsers were deploying new features without, you know, taking the final name. [00:19:06] Francois: We are trying also to move away from it because same thing. Then in the end, you end up with, uh, applications that have, uh, to duplicate all the properties, the CSS properties in the style sheets with, uh, the vendor prefixes and nuances in the, in what it does in, in the end. [00:19:23] Jeremy: Yeah, I, I think, is that in CSS where you'll see --mozilla or things like that? Why requestVideoFrameCallback doesn't have a formal specification [00:19:30] Jeremy: The example of the request video frame callback. I, I wonder if you have an opinion or, or, or know why that ended up the way it did, where the browsers all implemented it, even though it was still in the incubation stage. [00:19:49] Francois: On this one, I don't have a particular, uh, insights on whether there was a, you know, a strong reason to implement it,without doing the standardization work. [00:19:58] Francois: I mean, there are, it's not, uh, an IPR (Intellectual Property Rights) issue. It's not, uh, something that, uh, I don't think the, the, the spec triggers, uh, you know, problems that, uh, would be controversial or whatever. [00:20:10] Francois: Uh, so it's just a matter of, uh, there was no one's priority, and in the end, you end up with a, everyone's happy. it's, it has shipped. And so now doing the spec work is a bit,why spend time on something that's already shipped and so on, but the, it may still come back at some point with try to, you know, improve the situation. [00:20:26] Jeremy: Yeah, that's, that's interesting. It's a little counterintuitive because it sounds like you have the, the working group and it, it sounds like perhaps the companies or organizations involved, they maybe agreed on how it should work, and maybe that agreement almost made it so that they felt like they didn't need to move forward with the specification because they came to consensus even before going through that. [00:20:53] Francois: In this particular case, it's probably because it's really, again, it's a small, spec. It's just one function call, you know? I mean, they will definitely want a working group, uh, for larger specifications. by the way, actually now I know re request video frame call back. It's because the, the, the final goal now that it's, uh, shipped, is to merge it into, uh, HTML, uh, the HTML spec. [00:21:17] Francois: So there's a, there's an ongoing issue on the, the WHATWG side to integrate request video frame callback. And it's taking some time but see, it's, it's being, it, it caught up and, uh, someone is doing the, the work to, to do it. I had forgotten about this one. Um, [00:21:33] Jeremy: Tension from specification review (horizontal review) [00:21:33] Francois: so with larger specifications, organizations will want this kind of IPR regime they will want commit commitments from, uh, others, on the scope, on the process, on everything. So they will want, uh, a larger, a, a more formal setting, because that's part of how you ensure that things, uh, will get done properly. [00:21:53] Francois: I didn't mention it, but, uh, something we're really, uh, Pushy on, uh, W3C I mentioned we have principles, we have priorities, and we have, uh, specific several, uh, properties at W3C. And one of them is that we we're very strong on horizontal reviews of our specs. We really want them to be reviewed from an accessibility perspective, from an internationalization perspective, from a privacy and security, uh, perspective, and, and, and a technical architecture perspective as well. [00:22:23] Francois: And that's, these reviews are part of the formal process. So you, all specs need to undergo these reviews. And from time to time, that creates tension. Uh, from time to time. It just works, you know. Goes without problem. a recurring issue is that, privacy and security are hard. I mean, it's not an easy problem, something that can be, uh, solved, uh, easily. [00:22:48] Francois: Uh, so there's a, an ongoing tension and no easy way to resolve it, but there's an ongoing tension between, specifying powerful APIs and preserving privacy without meaning, not exposing too much information to applications in the media space. You can think of the media capabilities, API. So the media space is a complicated space. [00:23:13] Francois: Space because of codecs. codecs are typically not relative free. and so browsers decide which codecs they're going to support, which audio and video codecs they, they're going to support and doing that, that creates additional fragmentation, not in the sense that they're not interoperable, but in the sense that applications need to choose which connect they're going to ship to stream to the end user. [00:23:39] Francois: And, uh, it's all the more complicated that some codecs are going to be hardware supported. So you will have a hardware decoder in your, in your, in your laptop or smartphone. And so that's going to be efficient to decode some, uh, some stream, whereas some code are not, are going to be software, based, supported. [00:23:56] Francois: Uh, and that may consume a lot of CPU and a lot of power and a lot of energy in the end. So you, you want to avoid that if you can, uh, select another thing. Even more complex than, codecs have different profiles, uh, lower end profiles higher end profiles with different capabilities, different features, uh, depending on whether you're going to use this or that color space, for example, this or that resolution, whatever. [00:24:22] Francois: And so you want to surface that to web applications because otherwise, they can't. Select, they can't choose, the right codec and the right, stream that they're going to send to the, uh, client devices. And so they're not going to provide an efficient user experience first, and even a sustainable one in terms of energy because they, they're going to waste energy if they don't send the right stream. [00:24:45] Francois: So you want to surface that to application. That's what the media, media capabilities, APIs, provides. Privacy concerns [00:24:51] Francois: Uh, but at the same time, if you expose that information, you end up with ways to fingerprint the end user's device. And that in turn is often used to track users across, across sites, which is exactly what we don't want to have, uh, for privacy reasons, for obvious privacy reasons. [00:25:09] Francois: So you have to balance that and find ways to, uh, you know, to expose. Capabilities without, without necessarily exposing them too much. Uh, [00:25:21] Jeremy: Can you give an example of how some of those discussions went? Like within the working group? Who are the companies or who are the organizations that are arguing for We shouldn't have this capability because of the privacy concerns, or [00:25:40] Francois: In a way all of the companies, have a vision of, uh, of privacy. I mean, the, you will have a hard time finding, you know, members saying, I don't care about privacy. I just want the feature. Uh, they all have privacy in mind, but they may have a different approach to privacy. [00:25:57] Francois: so if you take, uh, let's say, uh, apple and Google would be the, the, I guess the perfect examples in that, uh, in that space, uh, Google will have a, an approach that is more open-ended thing. The, the user agents has this, uh, should check what the, the, uh, given site is doing. And then if it goes beyond, you know, some kind of threshold, they're going to say, well, okay, well, we'll stop exposing data to that, to that, uh, to that site. [00:26:25] Francois: So that application. So monitor and react in a way. apple has a more, uh, you know, has a stricter view on, uh, on privacy, let's say. And they will say, no, we, the, the, the feature must not exist in the first place. Or, but that's, I mean, I guess, um, it's not always that extreme. And, uh, from time to time it's the opposite. [00:26:45] Francois: You will have, uh, you know, apple arguing in one way, uh, which is more open-ended than the, uh, than, uh, than Google, for example. And they are not the only ones. So in working groups, uh, you will find the, usually the implementers. Uh, so when we talk about APIs that get implemented in browsers, you want the core browsers to be involved. [00:27:04] Francois: Uh, otherwise it's usually not a good sign for, uh, the success of the, uh, of the technology. So in practice, that means Apple, uh, Microsoft, Mozilla which one did I forget? [00:27:15] Jeremy: Google. [00:27:16] Francois: I forgot Google. Of course. Thank you. that's, uh, that the, the core, uh, list of participants you want to have in any, uh, group that develops web standards targeted at web browsers. Who participates in working groups and how much power do they have? [00:27:28] Francois: And then on top of that, you want, organizations and people who are directly going to use it, either because they, well the content providers. So in media, for example, if you look at the media working group, you'll see, uh, so browser vendors, the ones I mentioned, uh, content providers such as the BBC or Netflix. [00:27:46] Francois: Chip set vendors would, uh, would be there as well. Intel, uh, Nvidia again, because you know, there's a hardware decoding in there and encoding. So media is, touches on, on, uh, on hardware, uh, device manufacturer in general. You may, uh, I think, uh, I think Sony is involved in the, in the media working group, for example. [00:28:04] Francois: and these companies are usually less active in the spec development. It depends on the groups, but they're usually less active because the ones developing the specs are usually the browser again, because as I mentioned, we develop the specs in parallel to browsers implementing it. So they have the. [00:28:21] Francois: The feedback on how to formulate the, the algorithms. and so that's this collection of people who are going to discuss first within themselves. W3C pushes for consensual dis decisions. So we hardly take any votes in the working groups, but from time to time, that's not enough. [00:28:41] Francois: And there may be disagreements, but let's say there's agreement in the group, uh, when the spec matches. horizontal review groups will look at the specs. So these are groups I mentioned, accessibility one, uh, privacy, internationalization. And these groups, usually the participants are, it depends. [00:29:00] Francois: It can be anything. It can be, uh, the same companies. It can be, but usually different people from the same companies. But it the, maybe organizations with a that come from very, a very different angle. And that's a good thing because that means the, you know, you enlarge the, the perspectives on your, uh, on the, on the technology. [00:29:19] Francois: and you, that's when you have a discussion between groups, that takes place. And from time to time it goes well from time to time. Again, it can trigger issues that are hard to solve. and the W3C has a, an escalation process in case, uh, you know, in case things degenerate. Uh, starting with, uh, the notion of formal objection. [00:29:42] Jeremy: It makes sense that you would have the, the browser. Vendors and you have all the different companies that would use that browser. All the different horizontal groups like you mentioned, the internationalization, accessibility. I would imagine that you were talking about consensus and there are certain groups or certain companies that maybe have more say or more sway. [00:30:09] Jeremy: For example, if you're a browser, manufacturer, your Google. I'm kind of curious how that works out within the working group. [00:30:15] Francois: Yes, it's, I guess I would be lying if I were saying that, uh, you know, all companies are strictly equal in a, in a, in a group. they are from a process perspective, I mentioned, you know, different membership fees with were design, special specific ethos so that no one could say, I'm, I'm putting in a lot of money, so you, you need to re you need to respect me, uh, and you need to follow what I, what I want to, what I want to do. [00:30:41] Francois: at the same time, if you take a company like, uh, like Google for example, they send, hundreds of engineers to do standardization work. That's absolutely fantastic because that means work progresses and it's, uh, extremely smart people. So that's, uh, that's really a pleasure to work with, uh, with these, uh, people. [00:30:58] Francois: But you need to take a step back and say, well, the problem is. Defacto that gives them more power just by virtue of, uh, injecting more resources into it. So having always someone who can respond to an issue, having always someone, uh, editing a spec defacto that give them more, uh, um, more say on the, on the directions that, get forward. [00:31:22] Francois: And on top of that, of course, they have the, uh, I guess not surprisingly, the, the browser that is, uh, used the most, currently, on the market so there's a little bit of a, the, the, we, we, we, we try very hard to make sure that, uh, things are balanced. it's not a perfect world. [00:31:38] Francois: the the role of the team. I mean, I didn't talk about the role of the team, but part of it is to make sure that. Again, all perspectives are represented and that there's not, such a, such big imbalance that, uh, that something is wrong and that we really need to look into it. so making sure that anyone, if they have something to say, make making sure that they are heard by the rest of the group and not dismissed. [00:32:05] Francois: That usually goes well. There's no problem with that. And again, the escalation process I mentioned here doesn't make any, uh, it doesn't make any difference between, uh, a small player, a large player, a big player, and we have small companies raising formal objections against some of our aspects that happens, uh, all large ones. [00:32:24] Francois: But, uh, that happens too. There's no magical solution, I guess you can tell it by the way. I, uh, I don't know how to formulate the, the process more. It's a human process, and that's very important that it remains a human process as well. [00:32:41] Jeremy: I suppose the role of, of staff and someone in your position, for example, is to try and ensure that these different groups are, are heard and it isn't just one group taking control of it. [00:32:55] Francois: That's part of the role, again, is to make sure that, uh, the, the process is followed. So the, I, I mean, I don't want to give the impression that the process controls everything in the groups. I mean, the, the, the groups are bound by the process, but the process is there to catch problems when they arise. [00:33:14] Francois: most of the time there are no problems. It's just, you know, again, participants talking to each other, talking with the rest of the community. Most of the work happens in public nowadays, in any case. So the groups work in public essentially through asynchronous, uh, discussions on GitHub repositories. [00:33:32] Francois: There are contributions from, you know, non group participants and everything goes well. And so the process doesn't kick in. You just never say, eh, no, you didn't respect the process there. You, you closed the issue. You shouldn't have a, it's pretty rare that you have to do that. Uh, things just proceed naturally because they all, everyone understands where they are, why, what they're doing, and why they're doing it. [00:33:55] Francois: we still have a role, I guess in the, in the sense that from time to time that doesn't work and you have to intervene and you have to make sure that,the, uh, exception is caught and, uh, and processed, uh, in the right way. Discussions are public on github [00:34:10] Jeremy: And you said this process is asynchronous in public, so it sounds like someone, I, I mean, is this in GitHub issues or how, how would somebody go and, and see what the results of [00:34:22] Francois: Yes, there, there are basically a gazillion of, uh, GitHub repositories under the, uh, W3C, uh, organization on GitHub. Most groups are using GitHub. I mean, there's no, it's not mandatory. We don't manage any, uh, any tooling. But the factors that most, we, we've been transitioning to GitHub, uh, for a number of years already. [00:34:45] Francois: Uh, so that's where the work most of the work happens, through issues, through pool requests. Uh, that's where. people can go and raise issues against specifications. Uh, we usually, uh, also some from time to time get feedback from developers and countering, uh, a bug in a particular implementations, which we try to gently redirect to, uh, the actual bug trackers because we're not responsible for the respons implementations of the specs unless the spec is not clear. [00:35:14] Francois: We are responsible for the spec itself, making sure that the spec is clear and that implementers well, understand how they should implement something. Why the W3C doesn't specify a video or audio codec [00:35:25] Jeremy: I can see how people would make that mistake because they, they see it's the feature, but that's not the responsibility of the, the W3C to implement any of the specifications. Something you had mentioned there's the issue of intellectual property rights and how when you have a recommendation, you require the different organizations involved to make their patents available to use freely. [00:35:54] Jeremy: I wonder why there was never any kind of, recommendation for audio or video codecs in browsers since you have certain ones that are considered royalty free. But, I believe that's never been specified. [00:36:11] Francois: At W3C you mean? Yes. we, we've tried, I mean, it's not for lack of trying. Um, uh, we've had a number of discussions with, uh, various stakeholders saying, Hey, we, we really need, an audio or video code for our, for the web. the, uh, png PNG is an example of a, um, an image format which got standardized at W3C and it got standardized at W3C similar reasons. There had to be a royalty free image format for the web, and there was none at the time. of course, nowadays, uh, jpeg, uh, and gif or gif, whatever you call it, are well, you know, no problem with them. But, uh, um, that at the time P PNG was really, uh, meant to address this issue and it worked for PNG for audio and video. [00:37:01] Francois: We haven't managed to secure, commitments by stakeholders. So willingness to do it, so it's not, it's not lack of willingness. We would've loved to, uh, get, uh, a royalty free, uh, audio codec, a royalty free video codec again, audio and video code are extremely complicated because of this. [00:37:20] Francois: not only because of patterns, but also because of the entire business ecosystem that exists around them for good reasons. You, in order for a, a codec to be supported, deployed, effective, it really needs, uh, it needs to mature a lot. It needs to, be, uh, added to at a hardware level, to a number of devices, capturing devices, but also, um, uh, uh, of course players. [00:37:46] Francois: And that takes a hell of a lot of time and that's why you also enter a number of business considerations with business contracts between entities. so I'm personally, on a personal level, I'm, I'm pleased to see, for example, the Alliance for Open Media working on, uh, uh, AV1, uh, which is. At least they, uh, they wanted to be royalty free and they've been adopting actually the W3C patent policy to do this work. [00:38:11] Francois: So, uh, we're pleased to see that, you know, they've been adopting the same process and same thing. AV1 is not yet at the same, support stage, as other, codecs, in the world Yeah, I mean in devices. There's an open question as what, what are we going to do, uh, in the future uh, with that, it's, it's, it's doubtful that, uh, the W3C will be able to work on a, on a royalty free audio, codec or royalty free video codec itself because, uh, probably it's too late now in any case. [00:38:43] Francois: but It's one of these angles in the, in the web platform where we wish we had the, uh, the technology available for, for free. And, uh, it's not exactly, uh, how things work in practice.I mean, the way codecs are developed remains really patent oriented. [00:38:57] Francois: and you will find more codecs being developed. and that's where geopolitics can even enter the, the, uh, the play. Because, uh, if you go to China, you will find new codecs emerging, uh, that get developed within China also, because, the other codecs come mostly from the US so it's a bit of a problem and so on. [00:39:17] Francois: I'm not going to enter details and uh, I would probably say stupid things in any case. Uh, but that, uh, so we continue to see, uh, emerging codecs that are not royalty free, and it's probably going to remain the case for a number of years. unfortunately, unfortunately, from a W3C perspective and my perspective of course. [00:39:38] Jeremy: There's always these new, formats coming out and the, rate at which they get supported in the browser, even on a per browser basis is, is very, there can be a long time between, for example, WebP being released and a browser supporting it. So, seems like maybe we're gonna be in that situation for a while where the codecs will come out and maybe the browsers will support them. Maybe they won't, but the, the timeline is very uncertain. Digital Rights Management (DRM) and Media Source Extensions [00:40:08] Jeremy: Something you had, mentioned, maybe this was in your, email to me earlier, but you had mentioned that some of these specifications, there's, there's business considerations like with, digital rights management and, media source extensions. I wonder if you could talk a little bit about maybe what media source extensions is and encrypted media extensions and, and what the, the considerations or challenges are there. [00:40:33] Francois: I'm going to go very, very quickly over the history of a, video and audio support on the web. Initially it was supported through plugins. you are maybe too young to, remember that. But, uh, we had extensions, added to, uh, a realplayer. [00:40:46] Francois: This kind of things flash as well, uh, supporting, uh, uh, videos, in web pages, but it was not provided by the web browsers themselves. Uh, then HTML5 changed the, the situation. Adding these new tags, audio and video, but that these tags on this, by default, support, uh, you give them a resources, a resource, like an image as it's an audio or a video file. [00:41:10] Francois: They're going to download this, uh, uh, video file or audio file, and they're going to play it. That works well. But as soon as you want to do any kind of real streaming, files are too large and to stream, to, to get, you know, to get just a single fetch on, uh, on them. So you really want to stream them chunk by chunk, and you want to adapt the resolution at which you send the stream based on real time conditions of the user's network. [00:41:37] Francois: If there's plenty of bandwidth you want to send the user, the highest possible resolution. If there's a, some kind of hiccup temporary in the, in the network, you really want to lower the resolution, and that's called adaptive streaming. And to get adaptive streaming on the web, well, there are a number of protocols that exist. [00:41:54] Francois: Same thing. Some many of them are proprietary and actually they remain proprietary, uh, to some extent. and, uh, some of them are over http and they are the ones that are primarily used in, uh, in web contexts. So DASH comes to mind, DASH for Dynamic Adaptive streaming over http. HLS is another one. Uh, initially developed by Apple, I believe, and it's, uh, HTTP live streaming probably. Exactly. And, so there are different protocols that you can, uh, you can use. Uh, so the goal was not to standardize these protocols because again, there were some proprietary aspects to them. And, uh, same thing as with codecs. [00:42:32] Francois: There was no, well, at least people wanted to have the, uh, flexibility to tweak parameters, adaptive streaming parameters the way they wanted for different scenarios. You may want to tweak the parameters differently. So they, they needed to be more flexibility on top of protocols not being truly available for use directly and for implementation directly in browsers. [00:42:53] Francois: It was also about providing applications with, uh, the flexibility they would need to tweak parameters. So media source extensions comes into play for exactly that. Media source extensions is really about you. The application fetches chunks of its audio and video stream the way it wants, and with the parameters it wants, and it adjusts whatever it wants. [00:43:15] Francois: And then it feeds that into the, uh, video or audio tag. and the browser takes care of the rest. So it's really about, doing, you know, the adaptive streaming. let applications do it, and then, uh, let the user agent, uh, the browser takes, take care of the rendering itself. That's media source extensions. [00:43:32] Francois: Initially it was pushed by, uh, Netflix. They were not the only ones of course, but there, there was a, a ma, a major, uh, proponent of this, uh, technical solution, because they wanted, uh, they, uh, they were, expanding all over the world, uh, with, uh, plenty of native, applications on all sorts of, uh, of, uh, devices. [00:43:52] Francois: And they wanted to have a way to stream content on the web as well. both for both, I guess, to expand to, um, a new, um, ecosystem, the web, uh, providing new opportunities, let's say. But at the same time also to have a fallback, in case they, because for native support on different platforms, they sometimes had to enter business agreements with, uh, you know, the hardware manufacturers, the whatever, the, uh, service provider or whatever. [00:44:19] Francois: and so that was a way to have a full back. That kind of work is more open, in case, uh, things take some time and so on. So, and they probably had other reasons. I mean, I'm not, I can't speak on behalf of Netflix, uh, on others, but they were not the only ones of course, uh, supporting this, uh, me, uh, media source extension, uh, uh, specification. [00:44:42] Francois: and that went kind of, well, I think it was creating 2011. I mean, the, the work started in 2011 and the recommendation was published in 2016, which is not too bad from a standardization perspective. It means only five years, you know, it's a very short amount of time. Encrypted Media Extensions [00:44:59] Francois: At the same time, and in parallel and complement to the media source extension specifications, uh, there was work on the encrypted media extensions, and here it was pushed by the same proponent in a way because they wanted to get premium content on the web. [00:45:14] Francois: And by premium content, you think of movies and, uh. These kind of beasts. And the problem with the, I guess the basic issue with, uh, digital asset such as movies, is that they cost hundreds of millions to produce. I mean, some cost less of course. And yet it's super easy to copy them if you have a access to the digital, uh, file. [00:45:35] Francois: You just copy and, uh, and that's it. Piracy uh, is super easy, uh, to achieve. It's illegal of course, but it's super easy to do. And so that's where the different legislations come into play with digital right management. Then the fact is most countries allow system that, can encrypt content and, uh, through what we call DRM systems. [00:45:59] Francois: so content providers, uh, the, the ones that have movies, so the studios here more, more and more, and Netflix is one, uh, one of the studios nowadays. Um, but not only, not only them all major studios will, uh, would, uh, push for, wanted to have something that would allow them to stream encrypted content, encrypted audio and video, uh, mostly video, to, uh, to web applications so that, uh, you. [00:46:25] Francois: Provide the movies, otherwise, they, they are just basically saying, and sorry, but, uh, this premium content will never make it to the web because there's no way we're gonna, uh, send it in clear, to, uh, to the end user. So Encrypting media extensions is, uh, is an API that allows to interface with, uh, what's called the content decryption module, CDM, uh, which itself interacts with, uh, the DR DRM systems that, uh, the browser may, may or may not support. [00:46:52] Francois: And so it provides a way for an application to receive encrypted content, pass it over get the, the, the right keys, the right license keys from a whatever system actually. Pass that logic over to the, and to the user agent, which passes, passes it over to, uh, the CDM system, which is kind of black box in, uh, that does its magic to get the right, uh, decryption key and then the, and to decrypt the content that can be rendered. [00:47:21] Francois: The encrypted media extensions triggered a, a hell of a lot of, uh, controversy. because it's DRM and DRM systems, uh, many people, uh, uh, things should be banned, uh, especially on the web because the, the premise of the web is that the, the user has trusts, a user agent. The, the web browser is called the user agent in all our, all our specifications. [00:47:44] Francois: And that's, uh, that's the trust relationship. And then they interact with a, a content provider. And so whatever they do with the content is their, I guess, actually their problem. And DRM introduces a third party, which is, uh, there's, uh, the, the end user no longer has the control on the content. [00:48:03] Francois: It has to rely on something else that, Restricts what it can achieve with the content. So it's, uh, it's not only a trust relationship with its, uh, user agents, it's also with, uh, with something else, which is the content provider, uh, in the end, the one that has the, uh, the license where provides the license. [00:48:22] Francois: And so that's, that triggers, uh, a hell of a lot of, uh, of discussions in the W3C degenerated, uh, uh, into, uh, formal objections being raised against the specification. and that escalated to, to the, I mean, at all leverage it. It's, it's the, the story in, uh, W3C that, um, really, uh, divided the membership into, opposed camps in a way, if you, that's was not only year, it was not really 50 50 in the sense that not just a huge fights, but the, that's, that triggered a hell of a lot of discussions and a lot of, a lot of, uh, of formal objections at the time. [00:49:00] Francois: Uh, we were still, From a governance perspective, interestingly, um, the W3C used to be a dictatorship. It's not how you should formulate it, of course, and I hope it's not going to be public, this podcast. Uh, but the, uh, it was a benevolent dictatorship. You could see it this way in the sense that, uh, the whole process escalated to one single person was, Tim Burners Lee, who had the final say, on when, when none of the other layers, had managed to catch and to resolve, a conflict. [00:49:32] Francois: Uh, that has hardly ever happened in, uh, the history of the W3C, but that happened to the two for EME, for encrypted media extensions. It had to go to the, uh, director level who, uh, after due consideration, uh, decided to, allow the EME to proceed. and that's why we have a, an EME, uh, uh, standard right now, but still re it remains something on the side. [00:49:56] Francois: EME we're still, uh, it's still in the scope of the media working group, for example. but the scope, if you look at the charter of the working group, we try to scope the, the, the, the, the updates we can make to the specification, uh, to make sure that we don't reopen, reopen, uh, a can of worms, because, well, it's really a, a topic that triggers friction for good and bad reasons again. [00:50:20] Jeremy: And when you talk about the media source extensions, that is the ability to write custom code to stream video in whatever way you want. You mentioned, the MPEG-DASH and http live streaming. So in that case, would that be the developer gets to write that code in JavaScript that's executed by the browser? [00:50:43] Francois: Yep, that's, uh, that would be it. and then typically, I guess the approach nowadays is more and more to develop low level APIs into W3C or web in, in general, I guess. And to let, uh. Libraries emerge that are going to make lives of a, a developer, uh, easier. So for MPEG DASH, we have the DASH.js, which does a fantastic job at, uh, at implementing the complexity of, uh, of adaptive streaming. [00:51:13] Francois: And you just, you just hook it into your, your workflow. And that's, uh, and that's it. Encrypted Media Extensions are closed source [00:51:20] Jeremy: And with the encrypted media extensions I'm trying to picture how those work and how they work differently. [00:51:28] Francois: Well, it's because the, the, the, the key architecture is that the, the stream that you, the stream that you may assemble with a media source extensions, for example. 'cause typically they, they're used in collaboration. When you hook the, hook it into the video tag, you also. Call EME and actually the stream goes to EME. [00:51:49] Francois: And when it goes to EME, actually the user agent hands the encrypted stream. You're still encrypted at this time. Uh, encrypted, uh, stream goes to the CDM content decryption module, and that's a black box well, it has some black, black, uh, black box logic. So it's not, uh, even if you look at the chromium source code, for example, you won't see the implementation of the CDM because it's a, it's a black box, so it's not part of the browser se it's a sand, it's sandboxed, it's execution sandbox. [00:52:17] Francois: That's, uh, the, the EME is kind of unique in, in this way where the, the CDM is not allowed to make network requests, for example, again, for privacy reasons. so anyway, the, the CDM box has the logic to decrypt the content and it hands it over, and then it depends, it depends on the level of protection you. [00:52:37] Francois: You need or that the system supports. It can be against software based protection, in which case actually, a highly motivated, uh, uh, uh, attacker could, uh, actually get access to the decoded stream, or it can be more hardware protected, in which case actually the, it goes to the, uh, to your final screen. [00:52:58] Francois: But it goes, it, it goes through the hardware in a, in a mode that the US supports in a mode that even the user agent doesn't have access to it. So it doesn't, it can't even see the pixels that, uh, gets rendered on the screen. There are, uh, several other, uh, APIs that you could use, for example, to take a screenshot of your, of your application and so on. [00:53:16] Francois: And you cannot apply them to, uh, such content because they're just gonna return a black box. again, because the user agent itself does not see the, uh, the pixels, which is exactly what you want with encrypted content. [00:53:29] Jeremy: And the, the content decryption module, it's, if I understand correctly, it's something that's shipped with the browsers, but you were saying is if you were to look at the public source code of Chromium or of Firefox, you would not see that implementation. Content Decryption Module (Widevine, PlayReady) [00:53:47] Francois: True. I mean, the, the, um, the typical examples are, uh, uh, widevine, so wide Vine. So interestingly, uh, speaking in theory, these, uh, systems could have been provided by anyone in practice. They've been provided by the browser vendors themselves. So Google has Wide Vine. Uh, Microsoft has something called PlayReady. Apple uh, the name, uh, escapes my, uh, sorry. They don't have it on top of my mind. So they, that's basically what they support. So they, they also own that code, but in a way they don't have to. And Firefox actually, uh, they, uh, don't, don't remember which one, they support among these three. but, uh, they, they don't own that code typically. [00:54:29] Francois: They provide a wrapper around, around it. Yeah, that's, that's exactly the, the crux of the, uh, issue that, people have with, uh, with DRMs, right? It's, uh, the fact that, uh, suddenly you have a bit of code running there that is, uh, that, okay, you can send box, but, uh, you cannot inspect and you don't have, uh, access to its, uh, source code. [00:54:52] Jeremy: That's interesting. So the, almost the entire browser is open source, but if you wanna watch a Netflix movie for example, then you, you need to, run this, this CDM, in addition to just the browser code. I, I think, you know, we've kind of covered a lot. Documenting what's available in browsers for developers [00:55:13] Jeremy: I wonder if there's any other examples or anything else you thought would be important to mention in, in the context of the W3C. [00:55:23] Francois: There, there's one thing which, uh, relates to, uh, activities I'm doing also at W3C. Um. Here, we've been talking a lot about, uh, standards and, implementations in browsers, but there's also, uh, adoption of these browser, of these technology standards by developers in general and making sure that developers are aware of what exists, making sure that they understand what exists and one of the, key pain points that people, uh. [00:55:54] Francois: Uh, keep raising on, uh, the web platform is first. Well, the, the, the web platform is unique in the sense that there are different implementations. I mean, if you, [00:56:03] Francois: Uh, anyway, there are different, uh, context, different run times where there, there's just one provided by the company that owns the, uh, the, the, the system. The web platform is implemented by different, uh, organizations. and so you end up the system where no one, there's what's in the specs is not necessarily supported. [00:56:22] Francois: And of course, MDN tries, uh, to document what's what's supported, uh, thoroughly. But for MDN to work, there's a hell of a lot of needs for data that, tracks browser support. And this, uh, this data is typically in a project called the Browser Compat Data, BCD owned by, uh, MDN as well. But, the Open Web Docs collective is a, uh, is, uh, the one, maintaining that, uh, that data under the hoods. [00:56:50] Francois: anyway, all of that to say that, uh, to make sure that, we track things beyond work on technical specifications, because if you look at it from W3C perspective, life ends when the spec reaches standards, uh, you know, candidate rec or rec, you could just say, oh, done with my work. but that's not how things work. [00:57:10] Francois: There's always, you need the feedback loop and, in order to make sure that developers get the information and can provide the, the feedback that standardization can benefit from and browser vendors can benefit from. We've been working on a project called web Features with browser vendors mainly, and, uh, a few of the folks and MDN and can I use and different, uh, different people, to catalog, the web in terms of features that speak to developers and from that catalog. [00:57:40] Francois: So it's a set of, uh, it's a set of, uh, feature IDs with a feature name and feature description that say, you know, this is how developers would, uh, understand, uh, instead of going too fine grained in terms of, uh, there's this one function call that does this because that's where you, the, the kind of support data you may get from browser data and MDN initially, and having some kind of a coarser grained, uh, structure that says these are the, features that make sense. [00:58:09] Francois: They talk to developers. That's what developers talk about, and that's the info. So the, we need to have data on these particular features because that's how developers are going approach the specs. Uh. and from that we've derived the notion of baseline badges that you have, uh, are now, uh, shown on MDN on can I use and integrated in, uh, IDE tool, IDE Tools such as visual, visual studio, and, uh, uh, libraries, uh, linked, some linters have started to, um, to integrate that data. [00:58:41] Francois: Uh, so, the way it works is, uh, we've been mapping these coarser grained features to BCDs finer grained support data, and from there we've been deriving a kind of a, a batch that says, yeah, this, this feature is implemented well, has limited availability because it's only implemented in one or two browsers, for example. [00:59:07] Francois: It's, newly available because. It was implemented. It's been, it's implemented across the main browser vendor, um, across the main browsers that people use. But it's recent, and widely available, which we try to, uh, well, there's been lots of discussion in the, in the group to, uh, come up with a definition which essentially ends up being 30 months after, a feature become, became newly available. [00:59:34] Francois: And that's when, that's the time it takes for the, for the versions of the, the different versions of the browser to propagate. Uh, because you, it's not because there's a new version of a, of a browser that, uh, people just, Ima immediately, uh, get it. So it takes a while, to propagate, uh, across the, uh, the, the user, uh, user base. [00:59:56] Francois: And so the, the goal is to have a, a, a signal that. Developers can rely on saying, okay, well it's widely available so I can really use that feature. And of course, if that doesn't work, then we need to know about it. And so we are also working with, uh, people doing so developer surveys such as state of, uh, CSS, state of HTML, state of JavaScript. [01:00:15] Francois: That's I guess, the main ones. But also we are also running, uh, MDN short surveys with the MDN people to gather feedback on. On the, on these same features, and to feed the loop and to, uh, to complete the loop. and these data is also used by, internally, by browser vendors to inform, prioritization process, their prioritization process, and typically as part of the interop project that they're also running, uh, on the site [01:00:43] Francois: So a, a number of different, I've mentioned, uh, I guess a number of different projects, uh, coming along together. But that's the goal is to create links, across all of these, um, uh, ongoing projects with a view to integrating developers, more, and gathering feedback as early as possible and inform decision. [01:01:04] Francois: We take at the standardization level that can affect the, the lives of the developers and making sure that it's, uh, it affects them in a, in a positive way. [01:01:14] Jeremy: just trying to understand, 'cause you had mentioned that there's the web features and the baseline, and I was, I was trying to picture where developers would actually, um, see these things. And it sounds like from what you're saying is W3C comes up with what stage some of these features are at, and then developers would end up seeing it on MDN or, or some other site. [01:01:37] Francois: So, uh, I'm working on it, but that doesn't mean it's a W3C thing. It's a, it's a, again, it's a, we have different types of group. It's a community group, so it's the Web DX Community group at W3C, which means it's a community owned thing. so that's why I'm mentioning a working with a representative from, and people from MDN people, from open Web docs. [01:02:05] Francois: so that's the first point. The second point is, so it's, indeed this data is now being integrated. If you, and you look, uh, you'll, you'll see it in on top of the MDN pages on most of them. If you look at, uh, any kind of feature, you'll see a, a few logos, uh, a baseline banner. and then can I use, it's the same thing. [01:02:24] Francois: You're going to get a baseline, banner. It's more on, can I use, and it's meant to capture the fact that the feature is widely available or if you may need to pay attention to it. Of course, it's a simplification, and the goal is not to the way it's, the way the messaging is done to developers is meant to capture the fact that, they may want to look, uh, into more than just this, baseline status, because. [01:02:54] Francois: If you take a look at web platform tests, for example, and if you were to base your assessment of whether a feature is supported based on test results, you'll end up saying the web platform has no supported technology because there are absolutely no API that, uh, where browsers pass 100% of the, of the, of the test suite. [01:03:18] Francois: There may be a few of them, I don't know. But, there's a simplification in the, in the process when a feature is, uh, set to be baseline, there may be more things to look at nevertheless, but it's meant to provide a signal that, uh, still developers can rely on their day-to-day, uh, lives. [01:03:36] Francois: if they use the, the feature, let's say, as a reasonably intended and not, uh, using to advance the logic. [01:03:48] Jeremy: I see. Yeah. I'm looking at one of the pages on MDN right now, and I can see at the top there's the, the baseline and it, it mentions that this feature works across many browsers and devices, and then they say how long it's been available. And so that's a way that people at a glance can, can tell, which APIs they can use. [01:04:08] Francois: it also started, uh, out of a desire to summarize this, uh, browser compatibility table that you see at the end of the page of the, the bottom of the page in on MDN. but there are where developers were saying, well, it's, it's fine, but it's, it goes too much into detail. So we don't know in the end, can we, can we use that feature or can we, can we not use that feature? [01:04:28] Francois: So it's meant as a informed summary of, uh, of, of that it relies on the same data again. and more importantly, we're beyond MDN, we're working with tools providers to integrate that as well. So I mentioned the, uh, visual Studio is one of them. So recently they shipped a new version where when you use a feature, you can, you can have some contextual, uh. [01:04:53] Francois: A menu that tells you, yeah, uh, that's fine. You, this CSS property, you can, you can use it, it's widely available or be aware this one is limited Availability only, availability only available in Firefox or, or Chrome or Safari work kit, whatever. [01:05:08] Jeremy: I think that's a good place to wrap it up, if people want to learn more about the work you're doing or learn more about sort of this whole recommendations process, where, where should they head? [01:05:23] Francois: Generally speaking, we're extremely open to, uh, people contributing to the W3C. and where should they go if they, it depends on what they want. So I guess the, the in usually where, how things start for someone getting involved in the W3C is that they have some

Greg Wasserman from RSS.com is on the show to talk podcasting. Having made his way through the media ad buying world, Greg spent some time selling for the CBS radio cluster in LA before hooking in to podcasting. We share some similar views when it comes to the importance of show packaging, including artwork and descriptions, to attract and retain listeners. We also talked about the shift from downloads to audience engagement across multiple platforms like YouTube. Then we talked about the new toys in the toy box at RSS.com. Like their new programmatic ad feature, which allows podcasters to monetize with as few as 10 downloads per month. Additionally, he mentions the potential of video podcasting through HLS and the significance of local and location tags for building hyper-local communities. Now before you bail on the show and think things like HLS is geeky and silly, ask yourself. Do you want to let YouTube house all your video or do you want some degree of control over it?Greg also shares his LinkedIn initiatives, Podcast Monday and Give Back Tuesday, aimed at discovering and supporting podcasts and job seekers.Please sign up for the SOUNDING OFF Newsletter. Full of all the verbal diarrhea you never knew what you were missing in your life.Also we added the Sound Off Podcast to the The Open Podcast Prefix Project (OP3) A free and open-source podcast prefix analytics service committed to open data and listener privacy. You can be a nosey parker by checking out our downloads here.Thanks to the following organizations for supporting the show:Nlogic - TV & Radio Audience Data SolutionsMegatrax - Licensed Music for your radio station or podcast production company.Podderapp: Where podcasters can get access to their advanced data dashboard here.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The cinematic clash continues in Part 2 of The My Five Cents Podcast episode, "Movies That Changed the Culture." Hosts SoSo Juv, HLS, and Logical Genius return to the ring, joined again by award-winning filmmaker and cultural visionary Jaze Bordeaux, for the persuasion round—where egos flare and film opinions get tested. In this segment, the gloves come off as the hosts and guest engage in cross-examination, poking holes in each other's lists and defending their picks like true cinephiles. Jaze, known for his brilliant storytelling in EFC and Genesis, challenges the crew to back up their claims—and ultimately decides who deserves third place and who takes the top spot as this week's culture-shifting champion. But the debate doesn't end there—Jaze delivers his own 5 Cents on the topic, revealing the films he believes truly transformed society. Then, the crew dives into the People's Poll, spotlighting fan favorites and bold takes from the audience, and wraps with the AI Poll, where artificial intelligence throws in its algorithmic opinion on what movies changed the game.

(0:00) Intro(1:27) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel(2:13) Start of interview(2:51) Jonathan's origin story(4:23) His Journey into Governance, initially via accounting with PwC and later with Lazard.(6:17) Types of Governance Structures(7:51) About his firm Current Capital Partners (M&A advisory, corporate management services, and PE investing).(8:31) The Inspiration Behind his book On Boards: The Modern Playbook for Corporate Governance.(10:44) Interviews that Shaped the Narrative. His standout: Admiral Michael Mullen.(13:04) Target Audience for the Book(14:48) The importance of "boards [with a roster of] best athletes, not experts in a narrow area."(17:04) His personal journey into boardrooms(19:56) Experience as an Expert Witness (21:41) Evolution of Delaware's Corporate Law. *Reference to Moelis case and Tesla's Elon Musk CEO compensation case. (24:40) AI's Impact on the Boardroom. "[I]t is critical to remember that directors oversee, but management runs the company day to day."(29:50) Navigating Geopolitical Challenges(32:01) The Rise of Shareholder Activism(34:29) Insights on Corporate Restructuring *Reference to E38 on the rise of bankruptcy directors with Jared Ellias (now at HLS)(38:33) Separation of Chair and CEO is preferable(39:00) "I think term-limits are a cop-out" there should be annual individual director evaluations.(39:43) The Need for Corporate Director Licenses.(41:36) Books that have greatly influenced his life:On a Clear Day You Can See General Motors, by Patrick J. Wright (1979)The Right Stuff, by Tom Wolfe (1979)The House of Morgan, by Ron Chernow (1990)(42:30) His mentors(43:18) Quotes that he thinks of often or lives his life by: "You can't get a hit if you don't swing the bat" "I'm dumb enough to make a decision" "It's all about tomorrow" "Have fun, life is too short"(44:24) An unusual habit or an absurd thing that he loves.(45:31) The living person he most admires: the Pope and Lebron James.Jonathan Foster is an experienced corporate director, investment banker, and expert witness in corporate litigation, and the author of the new book On Boards: The Modern Playbook for Corporate Governance. He has served on more than 50 boards, including Fortune 500 companies, private companies and companies involved in restructurings. You can follow Evan on social media at:X: @evanepsteinLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/epsteinevan/ Substack: https://evanepstein.substack.com/__To support this podcast you can join as a subscriber of the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at https://evanepstein.substack.com/__Music/Soundtrack (found via Free Music Archive): Seeing The Future by Dexter Britain is licensed under a Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 United States License

Podcasting 2.0 August 22nd 2025 Episode 231: "Keep Publishing" Adam & Dave are joined by John Spurlock to discuss HLS, OP3, PSP and many more acronyms! ShowNotes We are LIT John Spurlock op3.dev HLS Podcast Radar HLS Costs - Google Sheets Standard Podcast Consumption (SPC) HLS VIDEO etc What Will Apple Do? This week in Vibe Coding - TWIV ------------------------------------- MKUltra chat Transcript Search What is Value4Value? - Read all about it at Value4Value.info V4V Stats Last Modified 08/22/2025 14:18:27 by Freedom Controller

Podcasting 2.0 August 22nd 2025 Episode 231: "Keep Publishing" Adam & Dave are joined by John Spurlock to discuss HLS, OP3, PSP and many more acronyms! ShowNotes We are LIT John Spurlock op3.dev HLS Podcast Radar HLS Costs - Google Sheets Standard Podcast Consumption (SPC) HLS VIDEO etc What Will Apple Do? This week in Vibe Coding - TWIV ------------------------------------- MKUltra chat Transcript Search What is Value4Value? - Read all about it at Value4Value.info V4V Stats Last Modified 08/22/2025 14:18:27 by Freedom Controller

The ASX 200 back below 9000 to 8967, down 52 points (0.6%) as results weighed after a long week. Banks remained firm with WBC up 0.7% and NAB slightly firmer, the Big Bank Basket drifting to $288.16 (-0.2%). Other financials also drifted lower, GQG fell 3.0% after early gains. Insurers firmed, ASX fell 2.1%, and ZIP soared 20.2% on better results. REITs were under pressure as GMG fell 4.8% on broker comments, SGP and CHC both better. Industrials slid, BXB saw some profit-taking, QAN dropped 2.1%, and ALL off 1.7%.Retail stocks also eased back, PMV down 4.0% and JBH falling 1.6%. GYG collapsed 18.2% after the results and a trading update. CTD in a trading halt awaiting some material news. Tech stocks eased back too, WTC down 1.8% and XRO continuing to fade. Down 0.6%. The All-Tech Index up 0.2%. WOW and COL under pressure. CSL resumed the downward momentum, off 4.2% as TLX trundled higher.In resources, BHP slightly lower, RIO fell 1.1%, and gold miners were mixed. WAF up 3.3% and VAU up again post results. Lithium stocks fell, PLS down 4.5% and MIN off 3.2%. Uranium stocks better, PDN up 4.3% and DYL rising 3.8%. Oil and gas firmed, coal stocks eased.In corporate news, ING dropped 20.3% as Woolies contract took its toll, HLS rallied 18.6% after results, AX1 dived 17.8% on disappointing sales growth, MVF fell 13.7% on disappointing profits and outlook.Nothing much on the economic front.Asian markets mixed again, Japan flat, China up 1.7% and HK up 0.5%European markets opening flat. US Dow futures down 18 Nasdaq down 32.Want to invest with Marcus Today? The Managed Strategy Portfolio is designed for investors seeking exposure to our strategy while we do the hard work for you. If you're looking for personal financial advice, our friends at Clime Investment Management can help. Their team of licensed advisers operates across most states, offering tailored financial planning services.  Why not sign up for a free trial? Gain access to expert insights, research, and analysis to become a better investor.

This week on The My Five Cents Podcast, it should be no surprise that the self-proclaimed most favorite host, HLS, tries to plead his case as to why he doesn't deserve the losing spot against Soso Juv and guest host Carl King. Was the vibrant Andy Paige, known for her work as an actress on General Hospital, QVC guest host, bestselling author, and internationally recognized beauty and lifestyle expert, correct?  Listen and decide for yourself.

This week on The My Five Cents Podcast, hosts SoSo Juv, HLS, and Carl King tackle the behaviors of insecure men with the always vibrant Andy Paige. Known for her work as an actress on General Hospital, QVC guest host, bestselling author, and internationally recognized beauty and lifestyle expert, Andy brings her unique blend of humor, wisdom, and storytelling to the conversation. Together, they unpack the behaviors, habits, and mindsets that scream insecurity—and how these traits affect relationships, self-worth, and personal growth. With her expertise in image transformation and self-confidence, Andy offers practical advice on navigating these dynamics, whether you're the one feeling insecure or trying to support someone who is. Tune in for a candid, insightful, and often hilarious discussion with Andy Paige and your favorite trio of podcast hosts! Don't miss this enlightening episode of The My Five Cents Podcast!

This week on The My Five Cents Podcast, hosts SoSo Juv, HLS, and Carl King tackle the behaviors of insecure men with the always vibrant Andy Paige. Known for her work as an actress on General Hospital, QVC guest host, bestselling author, and internationally recognized beauty and lifestyle expert, Andy brings her unique blend of humor, wisdom, and storytelling to the conversation. Together, they unpack the behaviors, habits, and mindsets that scream insecurity—and how these traits affect relationships, self-worth, and personal growth. With her expertise in image transformation and self-confidence, Andy offers practical advice on navigating these dynamics, whether you're the one feeling insecure or trying to support someone who is. Tune in for a candid, insightful, and often hilarious discussion with Andy Paige and your favorite trio of podcast hosts! Don't miss this enlightening episode of The My Five Cents Podcast!

Podcasting 2.0 July 25th 2025 Episode 228: "Tokenless" Adam & Dave are back from their break and solve all the world's media problems with HLS and L402! ShowNotes We are LIT Freedom! Memo to self - water softener History Timeline | CPB Signed up for PCM August 19th 1:30pm Exclusive episodes on the RSS feed: · Podcastindex-org/podcast-namespace · Discussion #726 · GitHub Freemium HLS Streaming: The Future of Video Podcasts in RSS FUNDING! Fountain pure V4V Fiat Hosting Companies - Funding, LIT , Podroll, PodPing This week in Vibe Coding - TWIV ------------------------------------- MKUltra chat Transcript Search What is Value4Value? - Read all about it at Value4Value.info V4V Stats Last Modified 07/25/2025 14:20:51 by Freedom Controller

Podcasting 2.0 July 25th 2025 Episode 228: "Tokenless" Adam & Dave are back from their break and solve all the world's media problems with HLS and L402! ShowNotes We are LIT Freedom! Memo to self - water softener History Timeline | CPB Signed up for PCM August 19th 1:30pm Exclusive episodes on the RSS feed: · Podcastindex-org/podcast-namespace · Discussion #726 · GitHub Freemium HLS Streaming: The Future of Video Podcasts in RSS FUNDING! Fountain pure V4V Fiat Hosting Companies - Funding, LIT , Podroll, PodPing This week in Vibe Coding - TWIV ------------------------------------- MKUltra chat Transcript Search What is Value4Value? - Read all about it at Value4Value.info V4V Stats Last Modified 07/25/2025 14:20:51 by Freedom Controller

In dieser Folge spricht Patrick Heinen mit Demen Selcan über die besonderen Herausforderungen in der Healthcare and Life Sciences Branche und darüber, warum KI hier mehr ist als nur ein Effizienz-Booster.Demen zeigt auf, wie sich regulatorischer Druck, kurze Zeitfenster im ärztlichen Alltag und komplexe Datenstrukturen auf die Arbeit von Pharmaunternehmen auswirken und wie KI helfen kann, diese Hürden zu überwinden.Außerdem spricht er über die Life Sciences Cloud und die Frage, wie sich globale Märkte und nationale Regularien in Einklang bringen lassen.Was ihr in dieser Folge lernt:✅ Warum die Änderungen in der Health and Life Sciences Branche jeden betrifft✅ Wo KI konkret Zeit spart: bei Pharmaunternehmen, im Außendienst und bei Ärzt:innen✅ Warum Standardisierung in HLS so schwierig, aber gleichzeitig so entscheidend istDemens Folgetipp der Folge:Blog: Too long didn't read – tech:https://tldr.tech/ Fierce Pharma:https://www.fiercepharma.com/Kapitel00:00 - 01:15 Intro01:15 - 02:40 KI-Lebenslauf02:40 - 06:37 Was ist die Health and Life Science Branche?06:37 - 12:51 Was sind Herausforderungen in HLS?12:51 - 24:05 Wo kann die heutige KI-Technologie zum Einsatz kommen?24:05 - 25:29 Warum hat mir das KIner gesagt?25:29 - 31:54 Datenplattformen31:54 - 34:24 Der Folgetipp der Folge34:24 - 36:31 OutroMehr zu Salesforce:Website: https://www.salesforce.com/de/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/salesforce/

In this episode of Status Check with Spivey, Spivey J.D. admissions consultants Danielle Early (former Associate Director of Admissions at Harvard Law School and military/veteran admissions specialist) and Mike Burns (former Director of Admissions & Financial Aid at Northwestern Law and Navy veteran) interview Brian Henson, a former consulting client of Danielle's, Navy Intelligence Officer, Service to School mentor, Harvard Law Armed Forces Association president, and recent HLS graduate. They discuss Brian's story of applying to law school from the middle of the ocean on an aircraft carrier and his experiences as a veteran at HLS, plus insights into admissions and legal education specifically targeted at military veterans and those on active duty.What considerations should military applicants keep in mind that differ from non-military applicants? What is the adjustment like moving from the military to law school? What sorts of admissions resources are available for military members and veterans? What are common pieces of misinformation that military applicants may encounter, and what's the true story? They cover these topics and more, including admissions for enlisted soldiers vs. officers (29:36), getting letters of recommendation from supervisors/commanders (36:44), application timing (5:28 and 21:51), resumes (43:36), personal statements (46:08), determining your chances and making a school list (31:51), job search advice (1:03:42), and more.You can listen and subscribe to Status Check with Spivey on ⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠. You can read a full transcript of this episode here.

Tired of HLS losing, the fellas of the My Five Cents Podcast decide to do a special episode of Make it Make Sense, and this time, they decide to enact an episode of "Not Ones" where they force HLS to eat hot sauces while asking him some very honest, personal and tough questions.   Did they play it too safe or did the fire burning inside reveal some dark truths?  Take a listen to this special hot episode. 

Interviews with the Golden Lobes, Adelicious, and the Podcast Standards Project - all in the chapters! Plus:• NPR adding support for the funding tag across all its shows, enabling direct audience support• Updates to podcast linking services with Nathan Gathright regaining control of Podlink from Spotify• The inaugural Golden Lobes awards celebrating the funniest people, podcasts, and moments in the industry• Cheerful Earful festival expanding globally to New York, London, and Melbourne• Detailed discussion on HLS video implementation challenges for podcasting• Growing international markets with India emerging as the third largest podcast market globally• Exploration of podcast certification standards and what they actually measureIf you get value from this show, please support us with a monthly contribution at weekly.podnews.net or by streaming Sats, leaving a super comment, or using the Buzzsprout fan mail link in our show notes.Send James & Sam a messageSupport the showConnect With Us: Email: weekly@podnews.net Fediverse: @james@bne.social and @samsethi@podcastindex.social Support us: www.buzzsprout.com/1538779/support Get Podnews: podnews.net

What if your dream TV role wasn't just about fame, but about finding meaning, healing, and a way to leave your mark on the world? In this episode, actress Jessie Liang joins SoSo Juv, HLS, and Logical Genius to share her Top 5 TV Shows She'd Guest Star In — but this isn't just a list, it's a powerful conversation about passion, purpose, and perseverance. Jessie opens up about the heartbreaking loss of her father during college, how that tragedy reshaped her family's outlook on life, and why she now lives with a carpe diem mentality that fuels her creative journey. From navigating a competitive industry with compassion to embracing the idea that “there's space for all of us,” Jessie reminds us that art isn't about scarcity — it's about connection. Expect deep dives into iconic shows, surprising choices, hilarious hypotheticals, and a heartfelt reminder that your story is your superpower.

The secret has finally been revealed.  HLS is not holding back, as he peels back the curtains and exposes the truth behind his loss and the unbelievable win.  What is a pop song? The Habitual Line Stepper shares his thoughts with the help of Artificial Intelligence, to unleash the scandal behind his co-hosts victory.  Is he onto something or has inflated ego gotten the best of him yet again?  Listen and decide. 

The gloves come off in Part Two of Pop Songs We Wish We Wrote In This Millennium! In the high-stakes persuasion round, the debate heats up as SoSo Juv, HLS, and Donnie Klang enter the cross-examination arena—poking holes, throwing shade, and defending their song choices like their names are on the liner notes. Our guest, the ever-talented Alissa Musto, takes center stage as the final judge. After a barrage of passionate arguments and playful digs, she delivers the verdict—deciding once and for all who ends up in third place, and who claims the crown as this episode's ultimate pop visionary. But before we wrap, Alissa gives her Five Cents on the topic, revealing the songs she wishes she wrote and why. The hosts then review The People's Poll and the always-unpredictable Artificial Intelligence Poll to see how their picks stacked up with the fans and the bots. It's a lyrical battle, a strategic showdown, and a celebration of pop genius. Who will come out on top? And who gets dragged for that “one questionable pick”? Who's Right, Who's Wrong YOU DECIDE!

What pop songs from the 2000s to now are so iconic, we wish we had our names in the songwriting credits? In this chart-topping edition of The My Five Cents Podcast, SoSo Juv, HLS, and Making The Band winner Donnie Klang are joined by multitalented artist, Harvard grad, and GRAMMY voting member Alissa Musto to break down the pop anthems that defined a generation—and the ones we're still jealous of. But the convo goes deeper than just catchy hooks. The crew debates the shifting value of music videos in the digital era—do you pour your budget into one full-length music video, or stretch it across 10 high-impact short-form clips for more bang for your buck? Alissa shares insight from the frontlines of today's music business, blending industry savvy with firsthand experience. Plus, HLS and the hosts reflect on how R&B has evolved from soulful serenades and dramatic “air-grab” ballads to the new-age "thug lover" era—and why some of that magic might be missing. This one's for the music lovers, content creators, and anyone who's ever shouted, “I should've written that!”

This week in the business of podcasting: Sound Profitable's latest study shows podcasting trust is at an all-time high, HLS could be the future of RSS, and NPR's CEO writes an open letter to Congress about funding for public media. Find links to every article mentioned right here on SoundsProfitable.com

This week in the business of podcasting: Sound Profitable's latest study shows podcasting trust is at an all-time high, HLS could be the future of RSS, and NPR's CEO writes an open letter to Congress about funding for public media. Find links to every article mentioned right here on SoundsProfitable.com

The ego showdown continues, and no one has a bigger ego than HLS of The My Five Cents Podcast.  HLS is in the hot seat, where he belongs, as he tries once again to redeem himself from his losing ways.  As always, HLS tries to defend his list, this time with the help of therapist and friend to the show, Dr. Melissa Robinson Brown. Take a listen, share your thoughts, but most of all enjoy!

LAST CALL: Tomorrow at 2:00 p.m. EST the second chapter of The Advertising Landscape, the largest study of podcast advertising effectiveness in the U.S., will debut in a live webinar hosted by Tom Webster. Register now to grab your virtual seat and get the report sent directly to your inbox after the presentation. Today in the business of podcasting: The Podcast Standards Project pitches HLS streaming as the future of RSS, MarketingBrew looks at advertisers' hesitance to book True Crime, and Kast Media emergeces from bankruptcy proceedings at an operating profit. Find links to every article mentioned here on SoundsProfitable.com

LAST CALL: Tomorrow at 2:00 p.m. EST the second chapter of The Advertising Landscape, the largest study of podcast advertising effectiveness in the U.S., will debut in a live webinar hosted by Tom Webster. Register now to grab your virtual seat and get the report sent directly to your inbox after the presentation. Today in the business of podcasting: The Podcast Standards Project pitches HLS streaming as the future of RSS, MarketingBrew looks at advertisers' hesitance to book True Crime, and Kast Media emergeces from bankruptcy proceedings at an operating profit. Find links to every article mentioned here on SoundsProfitable.com

The ego showdown continues in Part 2 of The My Five Cents Podcast episode, "Signs Your Ego Is Sabotaging You"—and this is where things get real. Hosts SoSo Juv, HLS, and Logical Genius return alongside transformational healer and spiritual teacher Sarah Spark Malone for the persuasion portion of the show, where cross-examinations fly and egos get thoroughly examined. In true My Five Cents fashion, each host defends their list while Sarah and the crew poke holes in each other's arguments. Who's being self-aware—and who's just being self-righteous? As the debates heat up, Sarah listens closely before deciding who takes third place and who earns the title of this week's ego-free victor. Sarah also shares her own 5 Cents on the topic—bringing powerful insights from her experience as a clinical hypnotherapist and spiritual guide. Finally, the episode wraps up with a review of the People's Poll and the AI-generated list, proving once again that even machines can sniff out ego sabotage.

In episode 821 of the QAV Podcast, Cameron and Tony kick things off with tales of gas outages and cold showers before diving into the markets. They review the portfolio performance, explain the HLS sell-off, and unpack the latest antics of Donald Trump's tariff diplomacy. Stocks under the spotlight include VVA (Viva Leisure) with their eyebrow-raising stake in Gorilla X Labs, NRW's legal wrangle over the Whyalla port, and a deep-dive pulled pork on ANZ. The ANZ segment touches everything from executive turnover, the bloated One Platform app, substance abuse allegations, and the Suncorp acquisition, to Cameron's prediction that the whole thing will be scrapped in favour of an AI-driven rebuild. Sprinkle in some talk about robot security Roombas, the legacy of Damien Broderick, Sparks' new album, and Japanese punk, and you've got another vintage QAV session.

Is your ego quietly running the show—and ruining your progress? This week on The My Five Cents Podcast, hosts SoSo Juv, HLS, and Logical Genius dive deep into the subtle (and not-so-subtle) ways your ego might be holding you back, and what you can do to stop the sabotage. Joining the conversation is the insightful and inspiring Sarah Spark Malone—a nationally recognized clinical hypnotherapist, transformational healer, and spiritual teacher known for her work on TLC's 90 Day: The Last Resort, as well as her bestselling book Affirmations for a Peaceful Life and her podcast Ignite the Spark Within. With over a decade of experience helping people break free of subconscious patterns and heal emotional wounds, Sarah helps unpack how the ego disguises itself as protection while actually blocking growth, love, and success. As always, the hosts bring their top five takes on the topic—and with Sarah as the judge, only one can be crowned this week's ego-aware champion. Follow Sarah on Instagram @sarah_sparkmalone

Exotic annual grasses, or EAGs, are invasive species. They outcompete native grasses. They are extremely flammable. And they are expanding into higher elevations. Targeted sheep grazing is one way to combat these invasive grasses, manage fire risk, and help restore native sagebrush in western states.The EROS team releases weekly EAG maps during the peak green-up in late April to early June, along with annual phenology maps to show the seasonal timing of the green-up. Dr. Kelly Hopping at Boise State University is using these maps to see whether targeted sheep grazing can help manage EAGs. The maps help researchers work with sheep producers to know when is the best time to move the sheep into those areas so their grazing can do the most good. The sheep then, as a part of the team solving the problem of invasive grasses, get to eat in the field when they might not otherwise have grazing available. Learn more in this episode of Eyes on Earth.

You've heard the saying “It's not what you say, it's how you say it”—but what if your voice is the secret weapon to unlocking your next level of professional success? In this powerful episode of The My Five Cents Podcast, hosts SoSo Juv, HLS, and Logical Genius explore the impact of vocal presence, tone, and communication style with special guest Tina Deitz—award-winning speaker, acclaimed performer, vocal leadership expert, and founder of Twin Flames Studios and Alembic Press. Join us for part 2 of this episode as Tina breaks down how your voice can influence credibility, leadership, and personal branding—whether you're in the boardroom, on stage, or behind a mic. With features in Forbes, The Wall Street Journal, ABC, and Inc.com, Tina brings a wealth of insight and charisma to the conversation. As always, the hosts present their top five takes on the topic—and with Tina as judge, we'll see who has the most influential perspective this week. Expect laughs, learning, and a few mic drops in an episode that proves your voice might just be your most powerful professional tool.

You've heard the saying “It's not what you say, it's how you say it”—but what if your voice is the secret weapon to unlocking your next level of professional success? In this powerful episode of The My Five Cents Podcast, hosts SoSo Juv, HLS, and Logical Genius explore the impact of vocal presence, tone, and communication style with special guest Tina Deitz—award-winning speaker, acclaimed performer, vocal leadership expert, and founder of Twin Flames Studios and Alembic Press. Tina breaks down how your voice can influence credibility, leadership, and personal branding—whether you're in the boardroom, on stage, or behind a mic. With features in Forbes, The Wall Street Journal, ABC, and Inc.com, Tina brings a wealth of insight and charisma to the conversation. As always, the hosts present their top five takes on the topic—and with Tina as judge, we'll see who has the most influential perspective this week. Expect laughs, learning, and a few mic drops in an episode that proves your voice might just be your most powerful professional tool.

From Minority Report to Her, Hollywood has a way of turning fiction into uncanny reality. In this mind-bending episode of My Five Cents, SoSo Juv, HLS, and Logical Genius are joined by futurist, hacker-turned-farmer, and former broadcaster Jesse Hirsch to unpack how movies have eerily predicted the world we're living in now. Jesse brings his unique lens—sharpened by decades of exploring tech, society, and the strange dance between innovation and control—to explore how science fiction has forecasted surveillance, artificial intelligence, virtual relationships, and even the collapse of societal norms. Is Hollywood psychic, or are we just living in someone else's screenplay? What role do these films play in shaping the very future they claim to predict? And how does a life spent farming tie back to humanity's most radical dreams? Tune in as we blend nostalgia, critical thinking, and a dash of dystopia—because sometimes, the truth is stranger (and better produced) than fiction.

From sci-fi classics to eerie thrillers—some movies didn't just entertain us, they predicted what was to come. In this futuristic (and funny) episode of The My Five Cents Podcast, hosts SoSo Juv, HLS, and Logical Genius are joined by special guest Jesse Hirsh—a futurist, recovering broadcaster, and master of smart conversations—for a deep dive into the films that saw the future before it happened. Which movies got it weirdly right? Which ones were way off? And which host picked the most prophetic flicks? With Jesse's expansive knowledge, quick wit, and love of improvisation, the conversation flows from AI to surveillance to societal shifts—all through the lens of film. Tune in as each host presents their top five “future-predicting” movies, debates heat up, and we find out who takes the crown in this week's challenge. It's insight, entertainment, and plenty of laughs—because here at My Five Cents, it's always a little bit smart and a whole lot of fun.

Many thanks to SRAA contributor, Dan Greenall, who shares the following recording and notes:Broadcaster: Maritime radio HLS Seoul KoreaDate of recording: October 31, 1998Frequency: 8.725 MHzReception location: Coe Hill, Ontario, CanadaReceiver and antenna: Panasonic RF-3100 and longwire antennaMode: Single Side BandNotes: Maritime radiotelephone station HLS in Seoul, Korea continued to operate in the late 1990's on shortwave. Instead of a repeating voice mirror, this station played Beethoven's "Ode to Joy" over and over so that the receiving station could tune them in. This recording is from October 31, 1998 at Coe Hill, Ontario, Canada, and the frequency they were using was 8725 kHz upper sideband. My receiver was a Panasonic RF-3100 hooked up to a long wire antenna.The station was identified by Richard "RD" Baker, editor of Communications Confidential, in the January 1999 issue of Popular Communications magazine. In his Reader Mailbag section, he wrote:"Dan Greenall in Ontario, Canada, has been hearing a new (at least to folks in North America) maritime marker on 8725.0 USB: Beethoven's 9th Symphony "Ode to Joy" is repeated. In trying to track this marker down, we sent the call out over the WUN Club's listserver. Costas Krallis in Greece, Fabrizio Magrone in Italy. Alex Wellner and Robin Harwood. both in Australia. all became involved. They soon began logging the marker on other maritime frequencies. Eventually, it was noted on 6513, 8725, 8797, 13161, and 17341. Only one station has those frequencies in common: HLS, Seoul Radio. South Korea. The marker was completely IDed within 32 hours!"

This week on The My Five Cents Podcast, hosts SoSo Juv, HLS, and Carl King dive into the hilariously awkward and cringe-worthy topic of the worst things to say right after sex. Joined by the quick-witted and unfiltered guest Amy Taylor, the crew shares their most outrageous, embarrassing, and downright terrible post-intimacy moments. From accidental honesty to downright bizarre comments, no story is off-limits.   As the laughs flow, the hosts compete to see who can come up with the most cringe-inducing line—and who will be crowned the ultimate victor of the week. Will it be SoSo Juv's brutal honesty, HLS's awkward charm, or Carl King's unexpected zingers? Tune in to find out and prepare to laugh, gasp, and maybe even cringe at this unforgettable episode!   Disclaimer: This episode may cause secondhand embarrassment. Proceed with caution.    

Brace yourselves! This episode of The My Five Cents Podcast is about to take you on a hilarious and slightly awkward journey as Soso Juv, HLS, and Logical Genius dive into the absolute worst things you can say immediately after getting down and dirty. From cringe-worthy confessions to mood-killing missteps, we're breaking it all down with the perfect guest to weigh in—Amy Taylor! Amy is not only super smart and wickedly sexy, but her class, exclusivity, and razor-sharp sense of humor make her the ultimate expert for this conversation. She's a real-life model (unlike the inflatable one in HLS's closet), and her presence alone will make you rethink everything you thought you knew about post-coital communication. Can you recover from a bad post-sex remark? What's the biggest turn-off you can utter in the heat of the moment? And what words will get you permanently banned from the bedroom? Tune in as Amy shares her insight, the guys go head-to-head with their wildest picks, and we all learn a thing or two about what not to say when the deed is done. Get ready for laughs, lessons, and maybe a little secondhand embarrassment.

Show Notes: Jacinda Townsend shares her journey of living in 10 different states and two foreign countries, having four careers, including being an elected official, having a couple of kids, and doing various weird things.  Working in Law, Journalism, and Fiction When Jacinda graduated at 20, she went to law school, which was part of a straight trajectory she had imagined since childhood, and while she initially believed she would go into politics and return to Kentucky, she realized she did not want to pursue a career in law. After finishing her degree, she worked as a news commentator for the Christian Science Monitor network, which led to her being hired as a professional journalist to cover international and national politics. Jacinda was passionate about the news and TV news. Writing for the sound byte was a challenge for her, but she loved it because it allowed her to express herself politically and learn a lot about the English language. She decided she wanted to pursue writing seriously and is now a novelist. She also teaches at Brown University in the MFA program. Throughout her career, Jacinda explains, it has been random events and circumstances that led her to each position.  Motivated by Anger and Moving into Politics Jacinda talks about her career in politics and how it transpired fueled by her anger at issues she could not ignore. She shares her experiences as a sitting school board member in Bloomington, Indiana. She served in a progressive town with a lot of socio-economic segregation and disciplinary disparities by race and ethnicity which she could not ignore. Jacinda ran for re-election and was elected again, and this time, it was a landslide.  She moved to Michigan and was asked to run for the school board there. Jacinda talks about the issues tackled, changes made, and how integration has changed. Jacinda believes that the ideal of integration is not happening. She explains that segregation has increased with 80 percent of white kids going to a school where the percentage of white children is above 75 percent, and minority children and still 90 percent more likely to be in a minority school. She mentions that peak integration happened in 1987 and goes on to explain the driving factors behind the segregation.  Working as a Writer The conversation turns to her writing career, which includes the award-winning novel Mother Country and the forthcoming novel Trigger Warning. Jacinda talks about her routine, which includes a 500-word word count daily.  She also shares a story of working with a student who felt unsure about her writing, and how she copes with the uncertainty of working in the arts. She also shares her approach to keeping up with her characters, and uses random texts to remember what was going through the character's head and keeps up with them. This helps her keep up with the story and remember the characters' reactions to things. When writing a novel, Jacinda immerses herself in the character's world, trying to experience it through their eyes. She doesn't take breaks during the writing process, as she believes that the imagination begets the imagination, and when living with her characters every day, it becomes like a muscle memory. When she returns to the story, she can remember every bit of why she did something, making her work more enjoyable and fulfilling. Living in Foreign Countries Jacinda was a Fulbright student in Cote d'Ivoire, and she has lived in two foreign countries, including Mali and Morocco. While in Mali, she encountered modern-day slavery. She also went to Morocco and visited Mauritania, where 20% of the population is enslaved. She explains that Mauritania is a remote country where it is like stepping back 500 years. It is difficult to escape slavery, as employment is caste-based, so if they escape slavery, there is no work. She met an escaped slave and her family, who gave birth to her last of eight children while escaping slavery. Jacinda shares that holding this baby was a profound moment in her life, and it was this experience that led to her novel, Mother Country. Jacinda explains that the reason no-one knows about the slavery issues in Mauritania is because it is not often mentioned in the news. The media is state-run, and the slavery system is brutally enforced. It is also difficult to get to due to its remoteness so there are very few Western visitors. People there often believe they should be slaves, that it is divinely ordained.   Influential Classes and Professors at Harvard Jacinda mentions Martin Kilson, a brilliant political scholar. She was initially shy in his class, but after her campus activism went viral, he hugged her and said, "You're brilliant." This was a moment that made her feel like she belonged there for the first time. Jacinda appreciates the gift of Martin Kilson's support and tries to make her students feel seen when they are quiet and nervous. She believes that making people feel heard is important and that she will never forget the gift of his presence. Jacinda Townsend shares her campus activism story. At the time she had no idea of the impact this would have. One night, the Boston Police came to her room. She was alone, but before she knew it, seven girls showed up who had come to support her. This experience taught her to speak on television and that even in difficult times, it's important to be there for others, and that others will be there for you, if you share a common belief.  Timestamps: 01:59: Early Career and Education  07:51: Public Office and School Board Experience  22:11: Writing Career and Novels  30:22: Experiences in Foreign Countries  36:39: Personal Reflections and Life Philosophy 40:15: Campus Activism and Media Experience  48:10: Impact of Media and Public Perception  48:27: Final Thoughts and Future Plans  Links: Website:   https://jacindatownsend.com/about-me/ Featured Non-profit "Hi, I'm Khedrub, Class of 1992. The featured non-profit of this episode of The 92 Report is Kadampa Meditation Center Boston. I've been privileged to work for this budding organization since I moved back to Cambridge in 2020. In addition to our regular programming, I speak at Lehman Hall in the Yard for GSAS now every month and at HLS once a semester, paying back a bit to Havard." You can learn more about our work at www.meditationinboston.org  

In this captivating episode of The My Five Cents Podcast, the third-place host, HLS, reaches out to some loyal listeners as they get raw and uncut in their thoughts about toxic relationships.  Who's to blame for em, and how to avoid em!

In this captivating episode of The My Five Cents Podcast, hosts SoSo Juv, HLS, and Logical Genius dive into the fascinating and often misunderstood world of toxic relationships. Why do some men repeatedly attract toxic partners, and how can they break free from this cycle? To help unravel the mystery, the trio welcomes special guest judge Stefania Puleo, a renowned Dating and Relationship Coach for Successful Men. Stefania shares her expert insights on recognizing red flags, understanding the psychology behind toxic attractions, and cultivating healthier relationship dynamics. Tune in for "Cross Examination" as the hosts try to persuade to judge to earn her favor. This episode has, eye-opening perspectives, and practical tips that could change your approach to relationships forever. Whether you're in the dating game or looking to level up your self-awareness, this is one episode you won't want to miss!

In this captivating episode of The My Five Cents Podcast, hosts SoSo Juv, HLS, and Logical Genius dive into the fascinating and often misunderstood world of toxic relationships. Why do some men repeatedly attract toxic partners, and how can they break free from this cycle? To help unravel the mystery, the trio welcomes special guest judge Stefania Puleo, a renowned Dating and Relationship Coach for Successful Men. Stefania shares her expert insights on recognizing red flags, understanding the psychology behind toxic attractions, and cultivating healthier relationship dynamics. Tune in for honest conversations, eye-opening perspectives, and practical tips that could change your approach to relationships forever. Whether you're in the dating game or looking to level up your self-awareness, this is one episode you won't want to miss!

WARNING: Adult Content!  First, does getting hit on by a teenager count as a compliment? Then, come join Jayna and 2 Besties of the male variety for a cheeky convo at the adult table. This one's informative and good for a laugh- Soso Juv (Team Loverboy) and H.L.S.(Team F*boy) from the "My 5 Cents Podcast" never hold back!  To hear more from Soso and HLS, check them out on spotify THE MY FIVE CENTS PODCAST   IN THIS EPISODE -How to incorporate sexy talk in the bedroom -How much is TOO much when it comes to talking nasty? -Is baby talk sexy? -Do cellulite and stretchmarks give men the ick? -Who's locker room talk is worse? Women or Men?   If you loved this episode and would like to support Big Lash Energy please click here: Buymeacoffee.com/BigLashEnergy   Our not-so-secret goal is to create a tribe of badass women who find beauty in the messiest parts of life. We're learning and laughing as we go! If you know someone who could use a little BLE in their life? If so, could you pretty please share this show with them! ...let's grow this tribe together!    HOW TO CONNECT:  Find us on INSTAGRAM!  BigLashPodcast   Jaynas makeup and personal IG: JaynaMarieMakeup   We're official! Here's our website: www.biglashpodcast.com   

This week on The My Five Cents Podcast, it should be no surprise that the self-proclaimed most favorite host, HLS, tries to plead his case as to why he doesn't deserve the losing spot against Soso Juv and guest host Carl King. Was the vibrant Andy Paige, known for her work as an actress on General Hospital, QVC guest host, bestselling author, and internationally recognized beauty and lifestyle expert, correct?  Listen and decide for yourself.  

This week on The My Five Cents Podcast, hosts SoSo Juv, HLS, and Carl King tackle the behaviors of insecure men with the always vibrant Andy Paige. Known for her work as an actress on General Hospital, QVC guest host, bestselling author, and internationally recognized beauty and lifestyle expert, Andy brings her unique blend of humor, wisdom, and storytelling to the conversation. Together, they unpack the behaviors, habits, and mindsets that scream insecurity—and how these traits affect relationships, self-worth, and personal growth. With her expertise in image transformation and self-confidence, Andy offers practical advice on navigating these dynamics, whether you're the one feeling insecure or trying to support someone who is. Tune in for a candid, insightful, and often hilarious discussion with Andy Paige and your favorite trio of podcast hosts! Don't miss this enlightening episode of The My Five Cents Podcast!

This week on The My Five Cents Podcast, hosts SoSo Juv, HLS, and Carl King tackle the behaviors of insecure men with the always vibrant Andy Paige. Known for her work as an actress on General Hospital, QVC guest host, bestselling author, and internationally recognized beauty and lifestyle expert, Andy brings her unique blend of humor, wisdom, and storytelling to the conversation. Together, they unpack the behaviors, habits, and mindsets that scream insecurity—and how these traits affect relationships, self-worth, and personal growth. With her expertise in image transformation and self-confidence, Andy offers practical advice on navigating these dynamics, whether you're the one feeling insecure or trying to support someone who is. Tune in for a candid, insightful, and often hilarious discussion with Andy Paige and your favorite trio of podcast hosts! Don't miss this enlightening episode of The My Five Cents Podcast!

SoSo Juv, and HLS breakdown this episode and delve into the costly mistakes made by special guest host Mizchitchat, sealing her fate as the 3rd place host of this comically musical episode. 

Every show needs a musical. Join us for My Five Cents singalong as SoSo Juv, HLS, and Mizchitchat create My Five Cents the musical. Listen in as SoSo Juv sings reggaeton, HLS sings the classics, and Mizchitchat shakes her head in disbelief. We will find out who our guest Aunt Nae Nae chooses as the victor for this episode on childhood movies.