There’s never a dull moment for hosts, Drew and Garden System, who are a couple that have both been diagnosed with Dissociative Identity Disorder. While they are navigating their healing journey, they continue to manage full time careers, raise four teenagers and a house full of pets. Not only do they aim to speak to people who have lived experience with DID and their supporters, but also therapists and anyone who wants to learn more. The podcast talks about Dissociative Identity Disorder in a way that someone who knows nothing about DID will be able to understand, and at the same time is designed to be a resource for therapists, while supporting and validating those with lived experience. Dissociative Identity Disorder is a highly stigmatized mental health diagnosis that has been subject to many myths and misinformation over the years. These myths, along with highly-sensationalized media portrayals, have led to many who still believe this disorder is not real and simply created by therapists who impose themselves on highly suggestible clients. The goal of the podcast is to dispel these myths and educate the world at large the truth about Dissociative Identity Disorder, and the reality of what having this diagnosis really looks like. The brain had to find a unique way to cope in order to survive the trauma people with DID faced from a very young age. Also, this condition is not rare, although many reputable sources still cite it as such. People with DID are ordinary members in your community that you might encounter in your daily life. Drew and Garden System want to shed light on the challenging symptoms people with DID face and share how they have overcome those challenges and found the gifts of joy that all of their parts bring to each other.
Drew & Garden System have an insightful and informative conversation with Dr. Alison Miller, the author of Demystifying Mind Control & Ritual Abuse: A Manual for Therapists. Dr. Alison Miller shares important signs that therapists should be aware of when assessing for ritual abuse in their clients with DID and provides education on overcoming the programming of mind control.Thank you to our amazing sponsors:Institute for Creative MindfulnessPetals of a RoseSend us a textFollow us on Instagram: @acoupleofmultiples, @note_to_selves, @seidi_gardensystem Follow us on TikTok: @seidi_gardensystem, @note_to_selves Follow us on Facebook: A Couple of Multiples - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61556823127239 Visit our website: acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list, join our private, on-line community Hearts Multiplied, register for peer coaching, consultations, and workshops!
Drew & Garden System discuss in-patient/hospitalization care for people living with dissociative identity disorder with Donna Earle, LPC, CCPT. They cover important topics such as helpful tips for hospital staff, the differences between the different levels of care, and identifying potential treatment centers. Please note that the hospitals and treatment centers listed are NOT recommended or endorsed by A Couple of Multiples/Mindful Multiplicity Institute LLC. Please research facilities before admittance.Facilities mentioned include: Sierra Tucson in Arizona: https://www.sierratucson.com/ Sanctuary Centers in Santa Barbara: https://sanctuarycenters.org/ The Meadows in Wickenburg, Arizona: https://www.themeadows.com/ The Meadows in Dallas, Texas: https://meadowsoutpatient.com/locations/dallas-tx/ River Oaks in New Orleans, Louisiana: https://riveroakshospital.com/ Khiron Clinics in the UK: https://khironclinics.com/Thank you to this episode's sponsors:Healing Selves TherapeuticsTo Life! CounselingSend us a textFollow us on Instagram: @acoupleofmultiples, @note_to_selves, @seidi_gardensystem Follow us on TikTok: @seidi_gardensystem, @note_to_selves Follow us on Facebook: A Couple of Multiples - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61556823127239 Visit our website: acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list, join our private, on-line community Hearts Multiplied, register for peer coaching, consultations, and workshops!
Drew & Garden System have a candid conversation with Amy Wagner, LMFT/LMHC! Amy Wagner is an EMDRIA approved consultant and they all discuss the many dos and don'ts of using EMDR when clients live with dissociative identity disorder. They discuss the eight phases, resourcing skills, and what to do when clients dissociate or switch during session. You won't want to miss this amazing discussion!Thank to our sponsors for this episode:Alix Amar with Dissociative Creative ExplorationsHealing Selves TherapeuticsAmy Wagner, is a Holistic Trauma Transformation therapist who helps people reclaim the intuitive and connected relationships in the most important parts of their lives. She is an EMDRIA Approved Consultant and Advanced EMDR Topics Trainer. She owns a boutique group trauma therapy practice in Orlando, specializing in working with clients who experience complex and developmental trauma. Amy loves to use EMDR and Expressive Arts to help clients on their healing journey.Amy lives a multi-faceted life, both internally and externally. After dropping out of college to begin a dance studio at age 19, Amy helped dancers get to their big stage for 15 years. When life pivoted, she began a real estate career as she raised her two children. A spiritual calling and her own inner healing led her back to college and then grad school to become a relationship and trauma therapist as her children went off to college. As a therapist, Amy has been transformative in helping other therapists learn to reduce stigma and embrace the healing journey of trauma transformation for their clients. Her course, Soul of Dissociation, sold out during the first two offerings. Amy is on a mission to help healers embrace collective healing by reducing the stigma of “othering”. Amy is passionate about the interplay of intergenerational trauma, peak performance and athlete mental health which she discusses in the book in progress, “Cart Path Only”.When not working, Amy travels the world with her professional golfer daughter, visits her son and daughter-in-love in VA, and spends abundant time with her family. She lives in Windermere, FL with her husband and sweet golden retriever.Send us a textFollow us on Instagram: @acoupleofmultiples, @note_to_selves, @seidi_gardensystem Follow us on TikTok: @seidi_gardensystem, @note_to_selves Follow us on Facebook: A Couple of Multiples - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61556823127239 Visit our website: acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list, join our private, on-line community Hearts Multiplied, register for peer coaching, consultations, and workshops!
Did you know that dissociative disorders are almost as common as mood disorders? Drew & Garden System chat with Dorinna Ruh, LCSW and cover valuable information about prevalence rates, how to recognize dissociation in yourself or in your client, ways to assess for a dissociative disorder, and a few EMDR tips as well! If you're working with complex trauma, then you're working with dissociation. You won't want to miss this episode!About Dorinna Ruh, LCSW:Dorinna's career has spanned 34 years, as she became a counselor in 1989, working in the substance abuse field. She obtained her Master's Degree in Social Work from the State University of New York in 1995.After moving to Fort Collins, Colorado in 1999, she started a private practice. She was trained in Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) in 2001 and found that this therapy was so powerful and such a good fit for her that it has been her primary lens since then. By 2010 she was both certified in and an approved consultant in EMDR therapy. For the past 9 years she has facilitated EMDR trainings for HAP/Trauma recovery and is currently a trainer candidate.She specializes in working with complex trauma and dissociative disorders and in addition to her therapy practice, she offers consultation and training for other therapists through her consultation business Advanced EMDR Education. Group consultation for EMDR certification and for advanced practitioners geared toward treating complex trauma. Individual consultation. Consultation link is https://advanced-emdr-education.com/consultation-groupsTrainings on Demand: Link is https://trainings.advanced-emdr-education.com/collectionsTherapy Snapshots — one-hour low-cost training on topics that have been super important to me: EMDR Treatment Planning and Target Sequencing; Karpman's Drama Triangle as a Lens for Countertransference; Internal Healing Dialogue; Creative Resourcing; Building Internal Scaffolding with Ideal ParentWeaving in Cognitive Interweaves - a three-hour EMDRIA-approved classEMDR and Dissocation from the Beginning - a 12-hour EMDRIA-approved class that focuses on phases 1 and 2 of EMDR therapy.Thank you to our Sponsors for this Episode:https://www.instituteforcreativemindfulness.com/https://www.dylancrumpler.com/watch-petals-of-a-roseSend us a textFollow us on Instagram: @acoupleofmultiples, @note_to_selves, @seidi_gardensystem Follow us on TikTok: @seidi_gardensystem, @note_to_selves Follow us on Facebook: A Couple of Multiples - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61556823127239 Visit our website: acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list, join our private, on-line community Hearts Multiplied, register for peer coaching, consultations, and workshops!
Note: We highly encourage you to listen to Parts I & II before listening to this episode, as we continue to honor our truth and authenticity, which may feel more intense than the previous episodes on this subject. We would like for you to be able to determine if this episode will be something you want to listen to or pass on, so here are some details of what we share in this season 3 finale. The first thing we talk about is being "turned on" and how that isn't always a good feeling and can be triggering. And then we talk about the Big O, but just so you know, we use the actual word and all the actual words in this episode, and also colorful language here and there. We also talk about selves that were created to quote “like” sex, and we discuss flashbacks, body memories and switching. We talk about how we manage our sexual selves, including perceptions of feeling like a perpetrator. We go over the topic of consent, and we also talk about the feelings of guilt that come up for either wanting sex or not wanting sex when in a romantic relationship. Please remember that you may pause and come back if you feel yourself or selves feeling triggered or dissociated. Please take good care of yourself or selves while listening.Please visit acoupleofmultiples.com to see all of our current offerings!Our amazing sponsors for Season 3:The Institute for Creative Mindfulness, one of the largest EMDR Therapy training programs in North America is directed by Dr. Jamie+ Marich, the only EMDR therapy trainer who is “out” as a plural and offers the full EMDR Therapy basic training in a way that honors lived experience and destigmatizes dissociation in clinical work. We felt so validated when we were able to authentically participate in this training as Garden System! Go to www.instituteforcreativemindfulness.com for a full list of upcoming trainings, both online and in-person, offered by Dr. Jamie and her selected network of EMDR trainers.Dr. Wendy Aporta, with Bearings Therapy, is a marriage and family therapist specializing in military and first responder individuals, families, and couples. She is proficient with clients experiencing PTSD, CPTSD, and dissociative disorders. For her, helping those with traumatic experiences is not just a job, it is a vocation. She is experienced in multiple modalities, and utilizes whatever is best for her client's needs. She stays abreast of the latest research and treatments to provide the best possible outcomes for her clients. Call Bearings Therapy today: 214-892-2158As a certified Internal Family Systems licensed therapist, Tiffany Morgan, owner of Holistic Self-Healing Psychotherapy, specializes in working with dissociative identities through IFS and sculpting. Known affectionately as 'Ocean,' she brings lived experience with dissociative identities and anorexia. Offering consulting, psychotherapy, training, and authoring a book on personal and professional experiences in these areas. Visit www.tiffanycobbmorgan.com or call (520) 582-9313 for more information.Alix Amar, LCSW offers Creative Art classes and series including the Creative Journal, Soul Collage and Altered Books, all on the Zoom Platform exclusively for people living with dissociation. The 8-week winter series of the Creative Journal begins in early March. For more information check out her website at alixamar.comSend us a text
Drew & Garden System have a candid conversation with Garden System's two oldest children, both adults now, about what it was like growing up with a parent that has dissociative identity disorder. Please visit acoupleofmultiples.com to see all of our current offerings!Our amazing sponsors for Season 3:The Institute for Creative Mindfulness, one of the largest EMDR Therapy training programs in North America is directed by Dr. Jamie+ Marich, the only EMDR therapy trainer who is “out” as a plural and offers the full EMDR Therapy basic training in a way that honors lived experience and destigmatizes dissociation in clinical work. We felt so validated when we were able to authentically participate in this training as Garden System! Go to www.instituteforcreativemindfulness.com for a full list of upcoming trainings, both online and in-person, offered by Dr. Jamie and her selected network of EMDR trainers.Dr. Wendy Aporta, with Bearings Therapy, is a marriage and family therapist specializing in military and first responder individuals, families, and couples. She is proficient with clients experiencing PTSD, CPTSD, and dissociative disorders. For her, helping those with traumatic experiences is not just a job, it is a vocation. She is experienced in multiple modalities, and utilizes whatever is best for her client's needs. She stays abreast of the latest research and treatments to provide the best possible outcomes for her clients. Call Bearings Therapy today: 214-892-2158As a certified Internal Family Systems licensed therapist, Tiffany Morgan, owner of Holistic Self-Healing Psychotherapy, specializes in working with dissociative identities through IFS and sculpting. Known affectionately as 'Ocean,' she brings lived experience with dissociative identities and anorexia. Offering consulting, psychotherapy, training, and authoring a book on personal and professional experiences in these areas. Visit www.tiffanycobbmorgan.com or call (520) 582-9313 for more information.Alix Amar, LCSW offers Creative Art classes and series including the Creative Journal, Soul Collage and Altered Books, all on the Zoom Platform exclusively for people living with dissociation. The 8-week winter series of the Creative Journal begins in early March. For more information check out her website at alixamar.comSend us a text
Drew & Garden System give an off script interview of each other and share personal stories of what it is like to be a parent when you have dissociative identity disorder. They each dive into topics such as how different selves show up as a parent, interact with the children, and how they navigate the challenges that having DID brings to the role of parenthood. They also touch on the challenges of being a blended family.Please visit acoupleofmultiples.com to see all of our current offerings!Our amazing sponsors for Season 3:The Institute for Creative Mindfulness, one of the largest EMDR Therapy training programs in North America is directed by Dr. Jamie+ Marich, the only EMDR therapy trainer who is “out” as a plural and offers the full EMDR Therapy basic training in a way that honors lived experience and destigmatizes dissociation in clinical work. We felt so validated when we were able to authentically participate in this training as Garden System! Go to www.instituteforcreativemindfulness.com for a full list of upcoming trainings, both online and in-person, offered by Dr. Jamie and her selected network of EMDR trainers.Dr. Wendy Aporta, with Bearings Therapy, is a marriage and family therapist specializing in military and first responder individuals, families, and couples. She is proficient with clients experiencing PTSD, CPTSD, and dissociative disorders. For her, helping those with traumatic experiences is not just a job, it is a vocation. She is experienced in multiple modalities, and utilizes whatever is best for her client's needs. She stays abreast of the latest research and treatments to provide the best possible outcomes for her clients. Call Bearings Therapy today: 214-892-2158As a certified Internal Family Systems licensed therapist, Tiffany Morgan, owner of Holistic Self-Healing Psychotherapy, specializes in working with dissociative identities through IFS and sculpting. Known affectionately as 'Ocean,' she brings lived experience with dissociative identities and anorexia. Offering consulting, psychotherapy, training, and authoring a book on personal and professional experiences in these areas. Visit www.tiffanycobbmorgan.com or call (520) 582-9313 for more information.Alix Amar, LCSW offers Creative Art classes and series including the Creative Journal, Soul Collage and Altered Books, all on the Zoom Platform exclusively for people living with dissociation. The 8-week winter series of the Creative Journal begins in early March. For more information check out her website at alixamar.comSend us a text
Drew and Garden System talk about how in the beginning a system feels separated from each other, even feeling like enemies. There often is difficulty in listening to selves, because it is hard to learn and believe what parts hold and about trauma that occurred. They talk about how they developed relationships within their systems, navigating selves with different values, beliefs and behaviors. Drew and Garden System share personal stories about improving relationships by building trust, figuring out what is important to different selves, compromising and coming together as systems. Also covered is the often necessary topic of adult selves looking after and reparenting younger or little selves. The episode concludes that offering gratitude to your selves for all the strengths they bring to your system as a whole helps all of yous feel appreciated and loved. Your relationship with all of your selves will ultimately help yous heal. Please visit acoupleofmultiples.com to see all of our current offerings!Our amazing sponsors for Season 3:The Institute for Creative Mindfulness, one of the largest EMDR Therapy training programs in North America is directed by Dr. Jamie+ Marich, the only EMDR therapy trainer who is “out” as a plural and offers the full EMDR Therapy basic training in a way that honors lived experience and destigmatizes dissociation in clinical work. We felt so validated when we were able to authentically participate in this training as Garden System! Go to www.instituteforcreativemindfulness.com for a full list of upcoming trainings, both online and in-person, offered by Dr. Jamie and her selected network of EMDR trainers.Dr. Wendy Aporta, with Bearings Therapy, is a marriage and family therapist specializing in military and first responder individuals, families, and couples. She is proficient with clients experiencing PTSD, CPTSD, and dissociative disorders. For her, helping those with traumatic experiences is not just a job, it is a vocation. She is experienced in multiple modalities, and utilizes whatever is best for her client's needs. She stays abreast of the latest research and treatments to provide the best possible outcomes for her clients. Call Bearings Therapy today: 214-892-2158As a certified Internal Family Systems licensed therapist, Tiffany Morgan, owner of Holistic Self-Healing Psychotherapy, specializes in working with dissociative identities through IFS and sculpting. Known affectionately as 'Ocean,' she brings lived experience with dissociative identities and anorexia. Offering consulting, psychotherapy, training, and authoring a book on personal and professional experiences in these areas. Visit www.tiffanycobbmorgan.com or call (520) 582-9313 for more information.Alix Amar, LCSW offers Creative Art classes and series including the Creative Journal, Soul Collage and Altered Books, all on the Zoom Platform exclusively for people living with dissociation. The 8-week winter series of the Creative Journal begins in early March. For more information check out her website at alixamar.comSend us a text
Drew & Garden System go more in depth about sex & intimacy and how it affects one's romantic relationship. They talk about sexual alters, the challenges littles bring, and how they have navigated personal experiences in the moment. They wrap up discussing shame and how they came into acceptance of their sexuality. Obvious trigger warnings apply.Interested in attending the System Mapping workshop this Friday, January 17th from 7pm EST to 11pm EST? You can sign up here: https://calendly.com/mindfulmultiplicity/system-mapping-workshop.Interested in joining our paid on-line community, Hearts Multiplied? Sign up for an information meeting here: https://calendly.com/mindfulmultiplicity/hearts-multiplied-did-community-introduction-meeting.Would you like to chat/consult with Drew & Garden System one-on-one? You can sign up here: https://calendly.com/mindfulmultiplicity/consult-with-a-couple-of-multiples.If you enjoyed this episode please leave us a review! You can visit our website at: acoupleofmultiples.com. Remember, every system is unique and your experiences may be different from ours. And that's okay! You matter and are loved for being all of yous.Our amazing Season 3 sponsors:The Institute for Creative Mindfulness, one of the largest EMDR Therapy training programs in North America is directed by Dr. Jamie+ Marich, the only EMDR therapy trainer who is “out” as a plural and offers the full EMDR Therapy basic training in a way that honors lived experience and destigmatizes dissociation in clinical work. We felt so validated when we were able to authentically participate in this training as Garden System! Go to www.instituteforcreativemindfulness.com for a full list of upcoming trainings, both online and in-person, offered by Dr. Jamie and her selected network of EMDR trainers.Dr. Wendy Aporta, with Bearings Therapy, is a marriage and family therapist specializing in military and first responder individuals, families, and couples. She is proficient with clients experiencing PTSD, CPTSD, and dissociative disorders. For her, helping those with traumatic experiences is not just a job, it is a vocation. She is experienced in multiple modalities, and utilizes whatever is best for her client's needs. She stays abreast of the latest research and treatments to provide the best possible outcomes for her clients. Call Bearings Therapy today: 214-892-2158As a certified Internal Family Systems licensed therapist, Tiffany Morgan, owner of Holistic Self-Healing Psychotherapy, specializes in working with dissociative identities through IFS and sculpting. Known affectionately as 'Ocean,' she brings lived experience with dissociative identities and anorexia. Offering consulting, psychotherapy, training, and authoring a book on personal and professional experiences in these areas. Visit www.tiffanycobbmorgan.com or call (520) 582-9313 for more information.Send us a text
Drew & Garden System have a friendly conversation with Jaime Pollack, founder of An Infinite Mind and the Healing Together conference for those with dissociative disorders, their supporters, and mental health clinicians. They talk about the power of community and how finding others with DID have positively impacted their healing journey. Jaime shares pertinent information about the Healing Together conference that is held each year in Orlando, Florida, with the next one coming up on February 14th - 16th 2025! You can register now by visiting https://www.aninfinitemind.org/healing-together-conference.Jaime Pollack lives in Central Florida where she works as a district Pre-K special education resource teacher. She also works part-time as an in-home early interventionist for special needs children aged birth to three. In 2005, she was diagnosed with Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID) resulting from childhood trauma. Jaime searched for support only to find there were very limited resources available. Her efforts to find support for herself led her to seek out other survivors living with the disorder. As she found others living with DID, she witnessed firsthand the challenges they shared and decided to shift her focus to help others, like herself, living with DID. Her passion to help others led to the creation of An Infinite Mind in January of 2008. Jaime spends her free time traveling with her husband, being out in nature, and snuggling her dog and 2 cats on the couch. If you enjoyed this episode please leave us a review! You can visit our website at: acoupleofmultiples.com. Remember, every system is unique and your experiences may be different from ours. And that's okay! You matter and are loved for being all of yous.Our amazing Season 3 sponsors:The Institute for Creative Mindfulness, one of the largest EMDR Therapy training programs in North America is directed by Dr. Jamie+ Marich, the only EMDR therapy trainer who is “out” as a plural and offers the full EMDR Therapy basic training in a way that honors lived experience and destigmatizes dissociation in clinical work. We felt so validated when we were able to authentically participate in this training as Garden System! Go to www.instituteforcreativemindfulness.com for a full list of upcoming trainings, both online and in-person, offered by Dr. Jamie and her selected network of EMDR trainers.Dr. Wendy Aporta, with Bearings Therapy, is a marriage and family therapist specializing in military and first responder individuals, families, and couples. She is proficient with clients experiencing PTSD, CPTSD, and dissociative disorders. For her, helping those with traumatic experiences is not just a job, it is a vocation. She is experienced in multiple modalities, and utilizes whatever is best for her client's needs. She stays abreast of the latest research and treatments to provide the best possible outcomes for her clients. Call Bearings Therapy today: 214-892-2158As a certified Internal Family Systems licensed therapist, Tiffany Morgan, owner of Holistic Self-Healing Psychotherapy, specializes in working with dissociative identities through IFS and sculpting. Known affectionately as 'Ocean,' she brings lived experience with dissociative identities and anorexia. Offering consulting, psychotherapy, training, and authoring a book on personal and professional experiences in these areas. Visit www.tiffanycobbmorgan.com or call (520) 582-9313 for more information.Send us a text
Drew & Garden System have an honest talk about sex and intimacy and how it affects one's romantic relationship. They talk about how their different selves show up in the relationship, the challenges of engaging in sex, and strategies to manage the triggers that inevitably come up. This episode definitely contains TMI and colorful language and the trigger warning should be obvious here, peoples.If you enjoyed this episode please leave us a review! You can visit our website at: acoupleofmultiples.com. Remember, every system is unique and your experiences may be different from ours. And that's okay! You matter and are loved for being all of yous.You can sign up for a four hour System Mapping workshop here: https://calendly.com/mindfulmultiplicity/system-mapping-workshop, presented to you by A Couple of Multiples!Our amazing Season 3 sponsors:The Institute for Creative Mindfulness, one of the largest EMDR Therapy training programs in North America is directed by Dr. Jamie+ Marich, the only EMDR therapy trainer who is “out” as a plural and offers the full EMDR Therapy basic training in a way that honors lived experience and destigmatizes dissociation in clinical work. We felt so validated when we were able to authentically participate in this training as Garden System! Go to www.instituteforcreativemindfulness.com for a full list of upcoming trainings, both online and in-person, offered by Dr. Jamie and her selected network of EMDR trainers.Dr. Wendy Aporta, with Bearings Therapy, is a marriage and family therapist specializing in military and first responder individuals, families, and couples. She is proficient with clients experiencing PTSD, CPTSD, and dissociative disorders. For her, helping those with traumatic experiences is not just a job, it is a vocation. She is experienced in multiple modalities, and utilizes whatever is best for her client's needs. She stays abreast of the latest research and treatments to provide the best possible outcomes for her clients. Call Bearings Therapy today: 214-892-2158As a certified Internal Family Systems licensed therapist, Tiffany Morgan, owner of Holistic Self-Healing Psychotherapy, specializes in working with dissociative identities through IFS and sculpting. Known affectionately as 'Ocean,' she brings lived experience with dissociative identities and anorexia. Offering consulting, psychotherapy, training, and authoring a book on personal and professional experiences in these areas. Visit www.tiffanycobbmorgan.com or call (520) 582-9313 for more information.Send us a text
In this incredible interview episode, Drew & Garden System dive into the therapeutic relationship with Kelly Caniglia, a Somatically focused Licensed Clinical Mental Health Counselor in North Carolina, a Licensed Mental Health Counselor in FL, a Clinical supervisor in both states as well as Certified Clinical Trauma Professional. Kelly specializes in working with Dissociative Identity Disorder and the plural community. Kelly was first introduced to the DID community, in 2012, through advocacy work as a Clinical intern with An Infinite Mind, and international nonprofit focused on the education and advocacy for individuals living with DID. Immediately, Kelly knew this was the population she wanted to work with for the duration of her career. Since then, Kelly has remained involved with An Infinite Mind, serving as their Intern Coordinator, then added to the Board of Directors, and now as their Director of Marketing and Events. Professionally, Kelly focuses on clinical work with people living with systems through two DID focused group practices located in North Carolina. Kelly is a passionate advocate dedicated to continuing to educate and hopes to ultimately influence educational curriculums for up and coming mental health workers.If you enjoyed this episode please leave us a review! You can visit our website at: acoupleofmultiples.com. Remember, every system is unique and your experiences may be different from ours. And that's okay! You matter and are loved for being all of yous.You can sign up for a four hour System Mapping workshop here: https://calendly.com/mindfulmultiplicity/system-mapping-workshop, presented to you by A Couple of Multiples!Our amazing Season 3 sponsors:The Institute for Creative Mindfulness, one of the largest EMDR Therapy training programs in North America is directed by Dr. Jamie+ Marich, the only EMDR therapy trainer who is “out” as a plural and offers the full EMDR Therapy basic training in a way that honors lived experience and destigmatizes dissociation in clinical work. We felt so validated when we were able to authentically participate in this training as Garden System! Go to www.instituteforcreativemindfulness.com for a full list of upcoming trainings, both online and in-person, offered by Dr. Jamie and her selected network of EMDR trainers.Dr. Wendy Aporta, with Bearings Therapy, is a marriage and family therapist specializing in military and first responder individuals, families, and couples. She is proficient with clients experiencing PTSD, CPTSD, and dissociative disorders. For her, helping those with traumatic experiences is not just a job, it is a vocation. She is experienced in multiple modalities, and utilizes whatever is best for her client's needs. She stays abreast of the latest research and treatments to provide the best possible outcomes for her clients. Call Bearings Therapy today: 214-892-2158As a certified Internal Family Systems licensed therapist, Tiffany Morgan, owner of Holistic Self-Healing Psychotherapy, specializes in working with dissociative identities through IFS and sculpting. Known affectionately as 'Ocean,' she brings lived experience with dissociative identities and anorexia. Offering consulting, psychotherapy, training, and authoring a book on personal and professional experiences in these areas. Visit www.tiffanycobbmorgan.com or call (520) 582-9313 for more information.Send us a text
Drew & Garden System have a candid conversation about relationships when one partner has dissociative identity disorder. Gianu System & Jonathan help provide hope through their personal stories as they share how they overcame challenges navigating their successful long-term relationship.Jenna (@gianusystem) and Jonathan (@splendid_supporter) were married for over fifteen years before they knew that Jenna wasn't just Jenna. She was part of a system of alters sharing one body. As the system made itself known, Jonathan took a proactive role in learning about the disorder and how best to support them in healing. His acceptance and insight have been a key part of their healing journey. If you enjoy this episode please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. We would love to hear what you enjoyed the most. You can visit our website at: acoupleofmultiples.com for additional information, including how to join our new online, paid community called Hearts Multiplied, to book a consultation session, to access additional resources, and to also subscribe to our mailing list to receive future updates. Remember, every system is unique and your experiences may be different from ours. And that's okay! You matter and are loved for being all of yous.You can sign up for a four hour System Mapping workshop here: https://calendly.com/mindfulmultiplicity/system-mapping-workshop, presented to you by A Couple of Multiples!Our amazing sponsors for Season 3:The Institute for Creative Mindfulness, one of the largest EMDR Therapy training programs in North America is directed by Dr. Jamie+ Marich, the only EMDR therapy trainer who is “out” as a plural and offers the full EMDR Therapy basic training in a way that honors lived experience and destigmatizes dissociation in clinical work. We felt so validated when we were able to authentically participate in this training as Garden System! Go to www.instituteforcreativemindfulness.com for a full list of upcoming trainings, both online and in-person, offered by Dr. Jamie and her selected network of EMDR trainers.Dr. Wendy Aporta, with Bearings Therapy, is a marriage and family therapist specializing in military and first responder individuals, families, and couples. She is proficient with clients experiencing PTSD, CPTSD, and dissociative disorders. For her, helping those with traumatic experiences is not just a job, it is a vocation. She is experienced in multiple modalities, and utilizes whatever is best for her client's needs. She stays abreast of the latest research and treatments to provide the best possible outcomes for her clients. Call Bearings Therapy today: 214-892-2158As a certified Internal Family Systems licensed therapist, Tiffany Morgan, owner of Holistic Self-Healing Psychotherapy, specializes in working with dissociative identities through IFS and sculpting. Known affectionately as 'Ocean,' she brings lived experience with dissociative identities and anorexia. Offering consulting, psychotherapy, training, and authoring a book on personal and professional experiences in these areas. Visit www.tiffanycobbmorgan.com or call (520) 582-9313 for more information.Alix Amar, LCSW offers Creative Art classes and series including the Creative Journal, Soul Collage and Altered Books, all on the Zoom Platform exclusively for people living with dissociation. The 8-week winter series of the Creative Journal begins at the end of November. For more information check out her website at alixamar.comSend us a text
True to this season's theme, Drew & Garden System have an intimate conversation with another couple of multiples, LS & Melanie Scarboro, about relationships and dissociative identity disorder. Both LS and Melanie live with DID and they share personal stories of how they navigate the daily challenges that having DID brings to maintaining an intimate relationship as well as all the amazingness that it brings to their healing journeys.If you enjoy this episode please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. We would love to hear what you enjoyed the most. You can visit our website at: acoupleofmultiples.com for additional information, including how to join our new online, paid community called Hearts Multiplied, to book a consultation session, to access additional resources, and to also subscribe to our mailing list to receive future updates. Remember, every system is unique and your experiences may be different from ours. And that's okay! You matter and are loved for being all of yous.You can sign up for a four hour System Mapping workshop here: https://calendly.com/mindfulmultiplicity/system-mapping-workshop, presented to you by A Couple of Multiples!Our amazing sponsors for Season 3:The Institute for Creative Mindfulness, one of the largest EMDR Therapy training programs in North America is directed by Dr. Jamie+ Marich, the only EMDR therapy trainer who is “out” as a plural and offers the full EMDR Therapy basic training in a way that honors lived experience and destigmatizes dissociation in clinical work. We felt so validated when we were able to authentically participate in this training as Garden System! Go to www.instituteforcreativemindfulness.com for a full list of upcoming trainings, both online and in-person, offered by Dr. Jamie and her selected network of EMDR trainers.Dr. Wendy Aporta, with Bearings Therapy, is a marriage and family therapist specializing in military and first responder individuals, families, and couples. She is proficient with clients experiencing PTSD, CPTSD, and dissociative disorders. For her, helping those with traumatic experiences is not just a job, it is a vocation. She is experienced in multiple modalities, and utilizes whatever is best for her client's needs. She stays abreast of the latest research and treatments to provide the best possible outcomes for her clients. Call Bearings Therapy today: 214-892-2158As a certified Internal Family Systems licensed therapist, Tiffany Morgan, owner of Holistic Self-Healing Psychotherapy, specializes in working with dissociative identities through IFS and sculpting. Known affectionately as 'Ocean,' she brings lived experience with dissociative identities and anorexia. Offering consulting, psychotherapy, training, and authoring a book on personal and professional experiences in these areas. Visit www.tiffanycobbmorgan.com or call (520) 582-9313 for more information.Alix Amar, LCSW offers Creative Art classes and series including the Creative Journal, Soul Collage and Altered Books, all on the Zoom Platform exclusively for people living with dissociation. The 8-week winter series of the Creative Journal begins at the end of November. For more information check out her website at alixamar.com or her Facebook page "Dissociative Creative Explorations."Send us a text
Drew & Garden System, a couple both living with dissociative identity disorder, share personal, intimate stories about their relationship including the many benefits and the unique challenges that arise when two multiples are in a relationship with each other. They also cover important tools, such as system mapping, emotional regulation & co-regulation, to help improve awareness of self beliefs that can get in the way of establishing a healthy, secure attachment.If you enjoy this episode please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. We would love to hear what you enjoyed the most. You can visit our website at: acoupleofmultiples.com for additional information, including how to join our new online, paid community called Hearts Multiplied, to book a consultation session, to access additional resources, and to also subscribe to our mailing list to receive future updates. Remember, every system is unique and your experiences may be different from ours. And that's okay! You matter and are loved for being all of yous. You can sign up for a four hour System Mapping workshop here: https://calendly.com/mindfulmultiplicity/system-mapping-workshop, presented to you by A Couple of Multiples!Our amazing sponsors for Season 3:The Institute for Creative Mindfulness, one of the largest EMDR Therapy training programs in North America is directed by Dr. Jamie+ Marich, the only EMDR therapy trainer who is “out” as a plural and offers the full EMDR Therapy basic training in a way that honors lived experience and destigmatizes dissociation in clinical work. We felt so validated when we were able to authentically participate in this training as Garden System! Go to www.instituteforcreativemindfulness.com for a full list of upcoming trainings, both online and in-person, offered by Dr. Jamie and her selected network of EMDR trainers.Dr. Wendy Aporta, with Bearings Therapy, is a marriage and family therapist specializing in military and first responder individuals, families, and couples. She is proficient with clients experiencing PTSD, CPTSD, and dissociative disorders. For her, helping those with traumatic experiences is not just a job, it is a vocation. She is experienced in multiple modalities, and utilizes whatever is best for her client's needs. She stays abreast of the latest research and treatments to provide the best possible outcomes for her clients. Call Bearings Therapy today: 214-892-2158As a certified Internal Family Systems licensed therapist, Tiffany Morgan, owner of Holistic Self-Healing Psychotherapy, specializes in working with dissociative identities through IFS and sculpting. Known affectionately as 'Ocean,' she brings lived experience with dissociative identities and anorexia. Offering consulting, psychotherapy, training, and authoring a book on personal and professional experiences in these areas. Visit www.tiffanycobbmorgan.com or call (520) 582-9313 for more information.Alix Amar, LCSW offers Creative Art classes and series including the Creative Journal, Soul Collage and Altered Books, all on the Zoom Platform exclusively for people living with dissociation. The 8-week winter series of the Creative Journal begins at the end of November. For more information check out her website at alixamar.com or her Facebook page "Dissociative Creative Explorations."Send us a text
Drew & Garden System, a married couple who both have Dissociative Identity Disorder, welcome listeners to Season 3 which focuses on relationships and DID. Many people with Dissociative Identity Disorder were unable to form a secure attachment to a caregiver when they were a child, often due to trauma, neglect or abuse. Drew & Garden System, share personal examples of attachment wounds, and the four different attachment styles: secure, anxious, avoidant and disorganized. They also talk about how these attachment styles have personally affected their relationship with each other. They share how one can change and heal an insecure attachment, and give personal examples of how their therapists helped them heal and form a secure attachment, with a sense of stability and security.If you enjoy this episode please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. We would love to hear what you enjoyed the most. You can visit our website at: acoupleofmultiples.com for additional information, including how to join our new online, paid community called Hearts Multiplied, to book a consultation session, to access additional resources, and to also subscribe to our mailing list to receive future updates. Remember, every system is unique and your experiences may be different from ours. And that's okay! You matter and are loved for being all of yous. Our amazing sponsors for Season 3:The Institute for Creative Mindfulness, one of the largest EMDR Therapy training programs in North America is directed by Dr. Jamie+ Marich, the only EMDR therapy trainer who is “out” as a plural and offers the full EMDR Therapy basic training in a way that honors lived experience and destigmatizes dissociation in clinical work. We felt so validated when we were able to authentically participate in this training as Garden System! Go to www.instituteforcreativemindfulness.com for a full list of upcoming trainings, both online and in-person, offered by Dr. Jamie and her selected network of EMDR trainers.Dr. Wendy Aporta, with Bearings Therapy, is a marriage and family therapist specializing in military and first responder individuals, families, and couples. She is proficient with clients experiencing PTSD, CPTSD, and dissociative disorders. For her, helping those with traumatic experiences is not just a job, it is a vocation. She is experienced in multiple modalities, and utilizes whatever is best for her client's needs. She stays abreast of the latest research and treatments to provide the best possible outcomes for her clients. Call Bearings Therapy today: 214-892-2158As a certified Internal Family Systems licensed therapist, Tiffany Morgan, owner of Holistic Self-Healing Psychotherapy, specializes in working with dissociative identities through IFS and sculpting. Known affectionately as 'Ocean,' she brings lived experience with dissociative identities and anorexia. Offering consulting, psychotherapy, training, and authoring a book on personal and professional experiences in these areas. Visit www.tiffanycobbmorgan.com or call (520) 582-9313 for more information.Send us a text
In this season 2 finale, Drew & Garden System share personal stories of experiencing shame, denial of being a multiple, and coming to acceptance of having dissociative identity disorder. Please visit https://acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list where you can learn more about our online community called Hearts Multiplied, for those living with a dissociative disorder, their supporters, and mental health professionals.We are honored to have a gold plus sponsor for season 2! The Institute for Creative Mindfulness is one of the largest EMDR Therapy training programs in North America, founded and directed by Dr. Jamie+ Marich, author of Dissociation Made Simple. Dr. Jamie is the only EMDR therapy trainer who is "out" as a plural, and since 2015 she's offered the full EMDR Therapy basic training in a way that honors lived experience and destigmatizes dissociation in clinical work. We have never felt more accepted and validated as a multiple than when we were able to show up authentically as Garden System for our basic EMDR training. Having lived experience is valued and respected in these training courses. Go to www.instituteforcreativemindfulness.com for a full list of upcoming trainings, both online and in-person, offered by Dr. Jamie and her selected network of EMDR trainers.Thank you to our bronze sponsor, Alix Amar LCSW, who offers weekly Creative Art classes including the Creative Journal, Soul Collage and Altered Books, all on the Zoom Platform exclusively for people living with dissociation. For more information check out her website at alixamar.com or her Facebook page "Dissociative Creative Explorations".Are you interested in becoming a sponsor? Please send an email to admin@acoupleofmultiples.com to request more information.Send us a text
Drew & Garden System share personal stories of how they brought all of their selves together to aid in the ability to switch on purpose and access all of the strengths and skills that each self holds. They talk about co-consciousness and ways that they practiced this skill amongst their selves.Please visit https://acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list where you can learn more about our online community called Hearts Multiplied, for those living with a dissociative disorder, their supporters, and mental health professionals.We are honored to have a gold plus sponsor for season 2! The Institute for Creative Mindfulness is one of the largest EMDR Therapy training programs in North America, founded and directed by Dr. Jamie+ Marich, author of Dissociation Made Simple. Dr. Jamie is the only EMDR therapy trainer who is "out" as a plural, and since 2015 she's offered the full EMDR Therapy basic training in a way that honors lived experience and destigmatizes dissociation in clinical work. We have never felt more accepted and validated as a multiple than when we were able to show up authentically as Garden System for our basic EMDR training. Having lived experience is valued and respected in these training courses. Go to www.instituteforcreativemindfulness.com for a full list of upcoming trainings, both online and in-person, offered by Dr. Jamie and her selected network of EMDR trainers.Thank you to our bronze sponsor, Alix Amar LCSW, who offers weekly Creative Art classes including the Creative Journal, Soul Collage and Altered Books, all on the Zoom Platform exclusively for people living with dissociation. For more information check out her website at alixamar.com or her Facebook page "Dissociative Creative Explorations".Are you interested in becoming a sponsor? Please send an email to admin@acoupleofmultiples.com to request more information.Send us a Text Message.
Drew & Garden System share personal stories of how they resolved internal conflicts, using a concept called trust by proxy, how they determined what was best for the whole system, how to identify and use the strengths of each self within the system, and some of the ways to keep up with all the daily little things when you live with Dissociative Identity Disorder.Please visit https://acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list where you can learn more about our online community called Hearts Multiplied, for those living with a dissociative disorder, their supporters, and mental health professionals.We are honored to have a gold plus sponsor for season 2! The Institute for Creative Mindfulness is one of the largest EMDR Therapy training programs in North America, founded and directed by Dr. Jamie+ Marich, author of Dissociation Made Simple. Dr. Jamie is the only EMDR therapy trainer who is "out" as a plural, and since 2015 she's offered the full EMDR Therapy basic training in a way that honors lived experience and destigmatizes dissociation in clinical work. We have never felt more accepted and validated as a multiple than when we were able to show up authentically as Garden System for our basic EMDR training. Having lived experience is valued and respected in these training courses. Go to www.instituteforcreativemindfulness.com for a full list of upcoming trainings, both online and in-person, offered by Dr. Jamie and her selected network of EMDR trainers.Thank you to our bronze sponsor, Alix Amar LCSW, who offers weekly Creative Art classes including the Creative Journal, Soul Collage and Altered Books, all on the Zoom Platform exclusively for people living with dissociation. For more information check out her website at alixamar.com or her Facebook page "Dissociative Creative Explorations".Are you interested in becoming a sponsor? Please send an email to admin@acoupleofmultiples.com to request more information.Send us a Text Message.
Drew & Garden System have an important conversation with Dr. Jamie+ Marich about her upcoming memoir, You Lied to Me About God. You can pre-order a copy now anywhere books are sold! They discuss the impact of religious trauma and spiritual abuse and how it can contribute to dissociation. They each share personal stories about their journeys of coming out as people with dissociative systems and being part of the LGBTQIA+ community. Also discussed is the impact of purity culture and sexual abuse. Please take care of your selves while listening!Dr. Jamie Marich (she/they/we) is the author of the popular Dissociation Made Simple: A Stigma-Free Guide to Embracing Your Dissociative Mind and Navigating Life (2023), now available as both a book and a clinical flipchart. She is the author of over 10 other books and manuals in the field of trauma, addiction recovery, and the expressive arts. They are an EMDR Therapy trainer and founder of The Institute for Creative Mindfulness, one of the largest training organizations in North America that works to create an inclusive space for plural trainees and others with dissociative responses. In 2019, the EMDR International Association awarded Jamie with their Advocacy Award for her work in destigmatizing dissociative disorders and other mental health concerns. Personally, Jamie+ is known as the Unicorn System and is a long-time presenter at Healing Together. In October of 2024, her first full memoir comes out called You Lied to Me About God, focusing on her experiences with spiritual abuse and religious trauma. They are based in Akron, Ohio on Erie Nation Land.Please visit https://acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list where you can learn more about our online community, Hearts Multiplied, for those living with a dissociative disorder, their supporters, and mental health professionals.We are honored to have a gold plus sponsor for season 2! The Institute for Creative Mindfulness is one of the largest EMDR Therapy training programs in North America, founded and directed by Dr. Jamie+ Marich, author of Dissociation Made Simple. Dr. Jamie is the only EMDR therapy trainer who is "out" as a plural, and since 2015 she's offered the full EMDR Therapy basic training in a way that honors lived experience and destigmatizes dissociation in clinical work. We have never felt more accepted and validated as a multiple than when we were able to show up authentically as Garden System for our basic EMDR training. Having lived experience is valued and respected in these training courses. Go to www.instituteforcreativemindfulness.com for a full list of upcoming trainings, both online and in-person, offered by Dr. Jamie and her selected network of EMDR trainers.Are you interested in becoming a sponsor? Please send an email to admin@acoupleofmultiples.com to request more information.Send us a Text Message.
Drew & Garden System, a couple living with Dissociative Identity Disorder, share personal stories of how they helped all of their selves develop trust and compassion for each other. Building bonds between all selves helps bring about internal cooperation and internal peace. They also dive into more detail about their fictive selves and how those developed within their systems. This includes the formation of roles that the selves took on to ensure safety and functionality, and how those roles evolved over time, such as system leadership. NOTE: They also have carefully and mindfully included specific personal examples of how this might look for someone that has experienced mind control and/or ritual abuse towards the end of the episode. Please visit https://acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list where you can learn more about our online community for those living with a dissociative disorder, their supporters, and mental health professionals.We are honored to have a gold plus sponsor for season 2! The Institute for Creative Mindfulness is one of the largest EMDR Therapy training programs in North America, founded and directed by Dr. Jamie+ Marich, author of Dissociation Made Simple. Dr. Jamie is the only EMDR therapy trainer who is "out" as a plural, and since 2015 she's offered the full EMDR Therapy basic training in a way that honors lived experience and destigmatizes dissociation in clinical work. We have never felt more accepted and validated as a multiple than when we were able to show up authentically as Garden System for our basic EMDR training. Having lived experience is valued and respected in these training courses. Go to www.instituteforcreativemindfulness.com for a full list of upcoming trainings, both online and in-person, offered by Dr. Jamie and her selected network of EMDR trainers.Thank you to our bronze sponsor, Alix Amar LCSW, who offers weekly Creative Art classes including the Creative Journal, Soul Collage and Altered Books, all on the Zoom Platform exclusively for people living with dissociation. For more information check out her website at alixamar.com or her Facebook page "Dissociative Creative Explorations".Are you interested in becoming a sponsor? Please send an email to admin@acoupleofmultiples.com to request more information.Send us a Text Message.
Drew & Garden System get real with Annie Goldsmith, sharing personal stories and uncovering the root causes of eating disorder behaviors and how they might show up in those living with dissociative identity disorder.Annie Goldsmith, RD, LDN holds an undergraduate degree from the University of Rochester in Brain and Cognitive Sciences and attended Winthrop University for her graduate coursework in human nutrition. Her educational and professional trajectory has always been guided by a strong curiosity about the ways our biology and psychology interact to inform our human experience. Annie worked in neuroscience research labs at New York University and Davidson College before pursuing a career in nutrition. She has experience treating eating disorders at the PHP, IOP, and outpatient levels of care. She opened her outpatient group practice, Second Breakfast Nutrition, in 2015.Annie's practice is rooted in a foundational belief in the inherent worthiness of all bodies. She centers weight inclusive, social justice oriented, and trauma informed frameworks in her approach to eating disorder care and recovery. Annie became interested in somatically and polyvagal-informed approaches to nutrition therapy in 2018 when she began training with the Embodied Recovery Institute, where she now provides training as part of the faculty. Annie has presented on the intersection of eating disorders and dissociation at the ISSTD World Conference, as well as the Healing Together conference. Annie is passionate about working with clients from a “bottom up” approach, centering and supporting the wisdom of the body and its innate capacity for healing.You can visit Annie's website here at Second Breakfast Nutrition.Please visit https://acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list where you can learn more about our online community for those living with a dissociative disorder, their supporters, and mental health professionals.We are honored to have a gold plus sponsor for season 2! The Institute for Creative Mindfulness is one of the largest EMDR Therapy training programs in North America, founded and directed by Dr. Jamie+ Marich, author of Dissociation Made Simple. Dr. Jamie is the only EMDR therapy trainer who is "out" as a plural, and since 2015 she's offered the full EMDR Therapy basic training in a way that honors lived experience and destigmatizes dissociation in clinical work. We have never felt more accepted and validated as a multiple than when we were able to show up authentically as Garden System for our basic EMDR training. Having lived experience is valued and respected in these training courses. Go to www.instituteforcreativemindfulness.com for a full list of upcoming trainings, both online and in-person, offered by Dr. Jamie and her selected network of EMDR trainers. Thank you to our bronze sponsor, Alix Amar LCSW, who offers weekly Creative Art classes including the Creative Journal, Soul Collage and Altered Books, all on the Zoom Platform exclusively for people living with dissociation. For more information check out her website at alixamar.com or her Facebook page "Dissociative Creative Explorations". Are you interested in becoming a sponsor? Please send an email to admin@acoupleofmultiples.com to request more information.Send us a Text Message.
Drew & Garden System have a lively discussion with Ocean about the use of Internal Family Systems, particularly with Dissociative Identity Disorder. Come learn all about the special considerations clinicians need to keep in mind and implement when they choose to use IFS as an intervention with their DID clients.Ocean is a highly educated and Certified Internal Family Systems (IFS) licensed therapist, having completed all three levels of IFS training. With over thirty years of experience in the mental health field, she began her career in a psychiatric trauma and inpatient unit. Ocean specializes in working with individuals who have Complex Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (C-PTSD), Dissociative Disorders (DD), and eating disorders.As a program assistant in IFS Level One training, she has presented on using IFS with individuals with dissociative disorders during break-out sessions. Her diverse academic background includes degrees in Educational Leadership and Clinical Teaching in Special Education, which, combined with her compassion, enable her to share valuable experience and knowledge with other therapists in the field of treating Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID) clients using the IFS model. Ocean firmly believes in the IFS principle that all parts are welcome.Her integrative approach blends mind-body techniques and meditation with IFS, inspiring her journey to become a yoga teacher. She strives to foster a deeper connection with parts work while incorporating holistic practices within IFS. Currently, she is furthering her studies in Ayurveda. In her spare time, Ocean enjoys connecting with nature, swimming, living the van life, spending quality time with her human and furry family members, and meditating by the ocean.Please visit https://acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list where you can learn more about our online community for those living with a dissociative disorder, their supporters, and mental health professionals.We are honored to have a gold plus sponsor for season 2! The Institute for Creative Mindfulness is one of the largest EMDR Therapy training programs in North America, founded and directed by Dr. Jamie+ Marich, author of Dissociation Made Simple. Dr. Jamie is the only EMDR therapy trainer who is "out" as a plural, and since 20 15 she's offered the full EMDR Therapy basic training in a way that honors lived experience and destigmatizes dissociation in clinical work. We have never felt more accepted and validated as a multiple than when we were able to show up authentically as Garden System for our basic EMDR training. Having lived experience is valued and respected in these training courses. Go to www.instituteforcreativemindfulness.com for a full list of upcoming trainings, both online and in-person, offered by Dr. Jamie and her selected network of EMDR trainers. Are you interested in becoming a sponsor? Please send an email to admin@acoupleofmultiples.com to request more information.Send us a Text Message.
Drew & Garden System interview Katie Keech, MFT on the intersections of neurodivergence with DID, autism, and ADHD.Katie Keech, MFT, whose pronouns are They/Them, has over twenty years of professional experience in both community mental health and private practice. They have managed emerging adult community mental health programs and forensic programs.In the late 1990's they were diagnosed with DDNOS then later DID. After much clinical and personal work, they identify as part of a plural system. In private practice they currently specialize in severe dissociative disorders, plurality and complex PTSD as well as autism and adhd from a neurodiversity affirmative framework.Katie is also the co founder of The Refractory, a recently started think tank for clinicians with lived experience DID/OSDD/Plurality, which aims to transform the mental health landscape.Katie is also a Fully Professed Member of The Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, Inc., a 45-year-old global order of queer nuns.Please visit https://acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list where you can learn more about our community for those living with a dissociative disorder, their supporters, and mental health professionals.We are honored to have a gold plus sponsor for season 2! The Institute for Creative Mindfulness is one of the largest EMDR Therapy training programs in North America, founded and directed by Dr. Jamie+ Marich, author of Dissociation Made Simple. Dr. Jamie is the only EMDR therapy trainer who is "out" as a plural, and since 20 15 she's offered the full EMDR Therapy basic training in a way that honors lived experience and destigmatizes dissociation in clinical work. We have never felt more accepted and validated as a multiple than when we were able to show up authentically as Garden System for our basic EMDR training. Having lived experience is valued and respected in these training courses. Go to www.instituteforcreativemindfulness.com for a full list of upcoming trainings, both online and in-person, offered by Dr. Jamie and her selected network of EMDR trainers. Are you interested in becoming a sponsor? Please send an email to admin@acoupleofmultiples.com to request more information.Send us a Text Message.
Drew & Garden System talk about listening (ironic we know!) instead of just trying to talk to parts. Remember that it's not just “talking” you're listening for, because not all parts communicate with words or by talking. Sometimes communication is thoughts we notice or pictures we see internally. Being quiet can feel uncomfortable because one often becomes aware of memories and feelings that parts were keeping tucked away. Validating and accepting parts' feelings and letting your selves express emotions is discussed. Also discussed is parts that still may be stuck in trauma time. We give several personal examples of how to get these parts up to speed on daily life and the present. We also touch on navigating parts in a system having different partner preferences, different and opposing sexual orientations, and different gender identities. Having a system of parts becomes one giant balancing act when you start listening and incorporating everyone's needs, wants and wishes.Visit acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list and to find out all about our private, paid community called Hearts Multiplied for people with dissociative disorders, their supporters, and therapists treating DID!We are honored to have a gold plus sponsor for season 2! The Institute for Creative Mindfulness is one of the largest EMDR Therapy training programs in North America, founded and directed by Dr. Jamie+ Marich, author of Dissociation Made Simple. Dr. Jamie is the only EMDR therapy trainer who is "out" as a plural, and since 2015 she's offered the full EMDR Therapy basic training in a way that honors lived experience and destigmatizes dissociation in clinical work. We have never felt more accepted and validated as a multiple than when we were able to show up authentically as Garden System for our basic EMDR training. Having lived experience is valued and respected in these training courses. Go to www.instituteforcreativemindfulness.com for a full list of upcoming trainings, both online and in-person, offered by Dr. Jamie and her selected network of EMDR trainers. Are you interested in becoming a sponsor? Please send an email to admin@acoupleofmultiples.com to request more information.Thank you to our bronze sponsor, Alix Amar LCSW, who offers weekly Creative Art classes including the Creative Journal, Soul Collage and Altered Books, all on the Zoom Platform exclusively for people living with dissociation. For more information check out her website at alixamar.com, or her Facebook page "Dissociative Creative Explorations". Send us a Text Message.
Drew & Garden System have a playful conversation about the benefits of sand tray therapy for those living with dissociative disorders with Dr. Elisa Niles Thorne (Dr, E). Topics include how sand tray can enhance internal communication between dissociative selves, how it can help nonverbal selves communicate, and how it can be used to process complex experiences. Whether you are a therapist or a client living with a dissociative disorder, you can learn so much from Dr. E's knowledge about the sand tray.Visit acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list.Thank you to our Gold Plus Sponsor: The Institute for Creative MindfulnessDr. E is a Licensed Mental Health Counselor in the State of Florida. She is a Board Certified Counselor and a qualified supervisor for mental health interns and marriage and family therapist interns. Dr. E is a recipient of the National Board of Certified Counselor- Minority Fellowship Program (2016). She completed her education at the University of the Virgin Islands 2002, 2005 and Argosy University in 2009. She completed her Ph.D. in Counselor Education and Supervision at Walden University. Her dissertation examined the Impact of Trauma on Re-occurring Homelessness in the U. S. Virgin Islands.Her Specializations include: Christian Counseling; Clinical Supervision; Dissociative Disorders; Play Therapy; Trauma/Complex Trauma; and Women IssuesShe has presented at local, state, and national conferences. She is now a published contributing author in the textbook: Fazio-Griffith, L. J., & Marino, R. (Eds.). (2021). Techniques and Interventions for Play Therapy and Clinical Supervision. IGI Global. http://doi:10.4018/978-1-7998-4628-4 Dr. E currently works as an associate professor at Hodges University in Fort Myers, Florida. She is the Founder and Owner of SoundMind Counseling and Consulting Services, LLC.Dr. E hails from the Caribbean Island of St. Thomas, United States Virgin Islands, and has also lived in Jamaica and Antigua.Sand Tray Training Resources:Florida Sandplay Therapy AssociationSouthern Sandtray InstituteFree Online Sand Tray by Dr. Karen FriedSend us a Text Message.
Drew & Garden System welcome Alicia Leigh Hann to discuss the healing power of dance & movement when one is a multiple!Alicia is a dance educator, performer, and choreographer based out of Columbus Ohio. She fell in love with dance because of its endless possibilities for creative physical expression. Movement has been an integral part of her personal recovery from a trauma induced eating disorder. Alicia has taught dance technique and facilitated movement experiences in therapeutic, classroom and community settings, as well as performed and set work nationally. She aims to foster an appreciation of dance as a physical, emotional, intellectual, and spiritual pursuit. Alicia serves as the director of operations for the Institute for Creative Mindfulness where she gets to combine her administrative skills with her passion for helping people find healing through self-expression with programs like Dancing Mindfulness and mental health advocacy. She takes pride in being the supportive role which allows ICM's faculty of mental health clinicians to create and train curriculum to providers, leading to therapeutic healing for their clients. Please visit our website at acoupleofmultiples.com to join our mailing list and learn all about our private, paid community called Hearts Multiplied for people with dissociative disorders, their supporters, and mental health professionals treating DID.We are honored to have a gold plus sponsor for season 2! The Institute for Creative Mindfulness is one of the largest EMDR Therapy training programs in North America, founded and directed by Dr. Jamie+ Marich, author of Dissociation Made Simple. Dr. Jamie is the only EMDR therapy trainer who is "out" as a plural, and since 20 15 she's offered the full EMDR Therapy basic training in a way that honors lived experience and destigmatizes dissociation in clinical work. We have never felt more accepted and validated as a multiple than when we were able to show up authentically as Garden System for our basic EMDR training. Having lived experience is valued and respected in these training courses. Go to www.instituteforcreativemindfulness.com for a full list of upcoming trainings, both online and in-person, offered by Dr. Jamie and her selected network of EMDR trainers. Are you interested in becoming a sponsor? Please send an email to admin@acoupleofmultiples.com to request more information.Send us a Text Message.
Drew & Garden System kick off Season 2 by sharing all the first signs of internal communication that happened within their systems. Listen to their comical, personal stories of how their selves made themselves known. This episode includes topics of suicidal ideation, self-harm, and eating disorders.Visit acoupleofmultiples.com to sign up for our mailing list and to find out all about our private, paid community called Hearts Multiplied for people with dissociative disorders, their supporters, and therapists treating DID!We are honored to have a gold plus sponsor for season 2! The Institute for Creative Mindfulness is one of the largest EMDR Therapy training programs in North America, founded and directed by Dr. Jamie+ Marich, author of Dissociation Made Simple. Dr. Jamie is the only EMDR therapy trainer who is "out" as a plural, and since 20 15 she's offered the full EMDR Therapy basic training in a way that honors lived experience and destigmatizes dissociation in clinical work. We have never felt more accepted and validated as a multiple than when we were able to show up authentically as Garden System for our basic EMDR training. Having lived experience is valued and respected in these training courses. Go to www.instituteforcreativemindfulness.com for a full list of upcoming trainings, both online and in-person, offered by Dr. Jamie and her selected network of EMDR trainers. Are you interested in becoming a sponsor? Please send an email to admin@acoupleofmultiples.com to request more information.Send us a Text Message.
In this legendary season one finale episode, Drew & Garden System discuss boundaries with friends, family, and within the therapeutic relationship. They talk about how they created a chosen community of friends and family and what is like to unmask through disclosure, including the thought processes around deciding if and when to disclose a diagnosis of Dissociative Identity Disorder.References:Drew & Garden System discussed the use of therapeutic touch in therapy with clients that have a history of sexual trauma and a diagnosis of Dissociative Identity Disorder. Here is an article discussed: https://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/touch-in-therapy-helpful-or-harmful-one-therapists-perspective-0629175The short film, Petals of a Rose is a great way to teach friends and family about DID. You can watch the 15 minute film here: https://www.dylancrumpler.com/petals-of-a-roseSend us a Text Message.
Drew & Garden System share their experiences with various healing modalities for the trauma that led to dissociative identity disorder, including: music & music therapy, drumming, sound healing, yoga, meditation & visualization, EFT Tapping, anger wall, and the quantum energy wellness bed.Articles on Sound & Music:https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/how_music_bonds_us_togetherhttps://www.soundtravels.co.uk/a-Sound_Therapy_and_the_Vagus_Nerve-3617.aspxhttps://www.scientificamerican.com/article/music-synchronizes-the-brains-of-performers-and-their-audience/https://www.themusiciansbrain.com/making-music-together-syncs-brains/Website for Quantum Energy Wellness Bedhttps://quantumwellnessus.com/quantum-energy-wellness-bedOur websitehttps://www.acoupleofmultiples.com/Send us a Text Message.
Art is one of the many healing modalities used for trauma processing. Megs from Brushstrokes & Imagination helps us to understand how having DID influences her art and creative processes. Megs is an incredible self-taught artist with minimal formal training. Artworks was one of their earliest escapes. They have continued to cultivate and express themselves since childhood. They are inspired by nature, and the bold dash of color. They were also very influenced by emotion and the unseen challenges of their mental health.They began by studying their own childhood photos. While looking at the photographs, they are reminded of the location the photo was originally taken. They're reminded of the smells & voices echoing in their mind. As they begin to paint, they're processing the feelings that emerge. In the photos they see the younger versions of themselves and how they were taught to feel versus how they truly felt. They illuminate the tiniest of details & darkness without light. As they're painting from these photos they are able to rewrite the narrative. They are able to reconnect with all parts of themselves.@Brushstrokes_Imagination@acoupleofmultiples@note_to_selves@seidi_gardensystemacoupleofmultiples.comSend us a Text Message.
Drew and Garden System share a multitude of research-based and some out-of-the-box healing interventions that they have used in their trauma recovery. Topics include CBT, grounding, handling self-harm urges, writing, play therapy, sand tray therapy, equine therapy, and EMDR.Send us a Text Message.
Drew & Garden System have a chat with Dylan & Holly Crumpler about the portrayal of Dissociative Identity Disorder in Hollywood films. Dylan & Holly discuss the diagnostic journey, how the film Petals of a Rose came to be, their upcoming projects to help reduce stigma, and their hopes for the future.Holly and Dylan Crumpler are a mother-son team of passionate activists working to reduce the stigma associated with Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID). Given that DID has historically been depicted in an inaccurate, sensationalized, and violent way in film and television, Dylan created his senior thesis film, Petals of a Rose, at Chapman University to realistically depict a day in the life of a woman with DID. He co-wrote the screenplay with his mother, Holly, who was diagnosed with DID in 2018 at the age of 51.Holly is a retired Tax Partner at Deloitte, an international public accounting firm, where she worked for 25 years consulting with corporations regarding their global compensation and benefit programs. Dylan is an independent filmmaker and 2022 graduate of Chapman University's Dodge College of Film and Media Arts where he received a Bachelor of Fine Arts in Film Production with an emphasis in Directing and a Themed Inquiry in Leadership.Petals of a Rose has received international acclaim, with Dylan and Holly sharing the film at numerous mental health conferences and educational events. The film is being used by clinicians in training sessions, college courses, and therapeutic settings. The film's subtitles are available in twelve languages.Following is the link where you can watch the 15 minute film and learn more about its impact: https://www.dylancrumpler.com/petals-of-a-rosePlease consider rating and reviewing Petals of a Rose on IMDb: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt19715926Dylan and Holly are now developing a documentary exploring the impact of misrepresentation of DID in film and television, and also a longer film/series expanding on the story of their short film's protagonist, Rose.Send us a Text Message.
Drew and Garden System enthrall you with funny stories from grocery shopping while discussing the challenges of managing money as a multiple, and they talk about the positive side of dissociation when visiting the dentist. They also reflect on disclosures made to doctors, friends, and employers. They also share important things to know about medical trauma. References: https://www.peersupportformultiples.com/services and https://www.dylancrumpler.com/petals-of-a-roseSend us a Text Message.
Managing friendships and relationships can be complicated due to attachment wounds when you have Dissociative Identity Disorder. Drew and Garden System reflect on their own attachments with friends, family, and romantic partners throughout the years. They also discuss the importance of the therapeutic relationship and how community has helped in their healing journey. Reference: www.aninfinitemind.org.Send us a Text Message.
When you have dissociative identity disorder and experience yourself as multiple people all sharing one body and one life, it becomes necessary to be able to talk to all of the people inside of you. Figuring out all who is in there is helpful when making decisions ranging from what to wear and what to eat, to more complex compromises such as who you want your romantic partner to be. Learn not only how to talk to everyone, but also how to listen.Send us a Text Message.
Trigger Warning: Mentions of perpetrators and persecutor parts. Brief alluding to RA/MC. Drew and Garden System take you on a journey from discovering internal worlds, to exploring the vast inner landscapes, and to finally showing how they changed some of the places inside. They also explain exactly what internal worlds are and how they can help you get to know your parts and your trauma history.Send us a Text Message.
Trigger Warning: Brief discussions of persecutor and sexual alters. Discovering that you are not the only one inhabiting your body can be a little disconcerting. This episode goes over all the different types of parts one could discover in their system and the different roles these parts might take on. Learning all about one's selves can help foster internal compassion and cooperation among all parts. Drew and Garden System share how their systems have learned to operate as a team with co-consciousness.Send us a Text Message.
Trigger warning: This episode mentions suicidal ideation, attempts, self-harm, eating disorders, and specific types of trauma. Being diagnosed with dissociative identity disorder is a complex journey fraught with misdiagnoses, unnecessary medications, and well-meaning therapists that miss the mark, unfortunately. This leads to years of suffering, which we hope to shorten by educating and raising awareness of what having DID really looks like. While we detail how the DSM-V criteria shows up in our lives, we also go over many signs and flags that were missed that indicated dissociative identities. References: Skałbania, J., Polewik, K., Pietkiewicz, I. J., & Tomalski, R. (2021). Divided mind – divided brain. the neurobiology of dissociative identity disorder from the perspective of dynamical systems theory. Journal of Psychiatry and Clinical Psychology, 21(1), 27-27–35. doi:https://doi.org/10.15557/PiPK.2021.0003.Send us a Text Message.
This first episode introduces you to the hosts of the podcast, Drew and Garden System, who are a couple that have both been diagnosed with Dissociative Identity Disorder. They take you through a day in the life of a couple of multiples, that have full time careers, are raising four teenagers and a house full of pets. Listeners will gain a realistic depiction of what day to day life is like living with this condition. The goal for this episode is to talk about DID in a way that someone who knows nothing about DID will be able to understand. This episode is not only intended to educate the public, but also to validate the experiences of those living with the disorder, and also be a resource for therapists to learn and understand this condition.Send us a Text Message.
A brief introduction to your hosts and our hopes for this podcast.Send us a Text Message.
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