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Episode Summary This week Jesse & Nat have very special guest Evan Owski on the podcast to discuss the entire Radiohead discography. Edited by Nat Show notes by Jesse Show Links Radiohead - Wikipedia Intelligent Dance Music - Wikipedia Radiohead “Creep” live on Conan O'Brien Thom Yorke - Wikipedia The Smile - Wikipedia Picks Evan: A. G. Cook “Britpop” Jesse: The War on Drugs “I Don't Live Here Anymore” Nat: Grizzly Bear “Veckatimest” (Recorded on sometime in September of 2024 lol)

Literally all we talk about is U2 this episode. IDK what to tell you. Not much to put in show notes this week.

Episode Summary This week Jesse & Nat talk about Contemporary Christian Music (CCM!) which we grew up with and have a complicated relationship with. Edited by Nat Show notes by Jesse Show Links The Eclipse! X-Men '97 Define The Relationship The Flinstones (1994) CCM Jars of Clay Pitchfork's great review of DC Talk's “Jesus Freak” DC Talk Audio Adrenaline Newsboys TobyMac Relient K Switchfoot The Dove Award Amy Grant Announces She Will Host Lesbian Niece's Wedding Because She's a Good, Loving Christian Elaine drives Puddy's car Jesus movement Jesus Revolution (2023) Master's Commission Hillsong Church Warning: Parental Advisory (2002) Project 86 Saved! (2004); Cassandra speaks in tongues. Chubby bunny Picks Jesse: Vampire Weekend “Only God Was Above Us” Nat: Paradise Lost “Obsidian” (Recorded on sometime in June of 2024 lol)

Episode Summary This week Jesse & Nat tackle Baroness’s entire discography. Edited by Nat Show notes by Jesse Show Links Dr. Oz goes shopping for charcuterie Jimmy Kimmel Pranks George Santos on Cameo, Trump Wants “Loyalists” Only & the Chanucorn Returns! Remember when Pitchfork had the audacity to give “De-Loused in the Comatorium” a 4.9? The Mars Volta: New Album, Reunion, and Vulnerability Ryley Walker – Wikipedia Baroness Baroness - Wikipedia Picks Jesse: The Chats “Get This in Ya!!” Nat: Touche Amore “Is Survived By” (Recorded on sometime in April of 2024 lol)

Episode Summary This week Jesse & Nat do their second round of hot takes. Edited by Nat Show notes by Jesse Show Links Lions’ historic collapse: Here’s how Detroit let a 17-point lead slip away in NFC Championship loss to 49ers Lineworker’s Rodeo Excel World Championship America’s rural radio stations are vanishing – and taking the country’s soul with them Picks Jesse: “Snakes for the Divine” by High on Fire Nat: “Kaleidoscope” by Siouxsie & the Banshees (Recorded on sometime in February 2024 lol)

Episode Summary This week Nat & Jesse go over their favorite records of 2023! Edited by Nat Show notes by Jesse Side note from Jesse: I’m intentionally not putting links to these. Look, I don’t know where you listen to music. Spotify? Apple Music? Tidal? Are you like Nat and only do vinyl? I don’t know. But if you’re listening to this podcast I trust your ability to plop this into Google or DuckDuckGo or whatever and find the album. I believe in you. Jesse’s favorites of the year Hot Mulligan — Why Would I Watch? Jason Isabel & the 400 Unit — Weathervanes Better Lovers — God Made Me an Animal Zach Bryan – Zach Bryan Aphex Twin — Blackbox Life Recorder 21f / In a Room7 F760 – EP JPEGMAFIA & Danny Brown — Scaring the Hoes Jenny Lewis — Joy'all Tomb Mold — The Enduring Spirit Ryuichi Sakamoto — 12 Jeff Rosenstock — Hellmode Spaceships — Ruins Nat’s favorites of the year Spotlights — Alchemy for the Dead Slowdive – Everything is Alive Widower – Alone as a God Underdark – Managed Decline Full of Hell and Nothing – When No Birds Sang Agriculture – Agriculture Fiddlehead – Death is Nothing to Us Svalbard – The Weight of the Mask Teenage Wrist – Still Love Yves Tumor – Praise a Lord Who Chews But Which Does Not Consume (or Simply, Hot Between Worlds) Picks Jesse: “Down” by Fennel Flowers Nat: “69” by A. R. Kane (Recorded on sometime in January 2024 lol)

Episode Summary This week we deep dive into the discography of one of our favorite bands, Thursday. Edited by Nat Shownotes by Jesse Show Links Paczki Day Casimir Pulaski Day – Wikipedia Devil’s Night – Wikipedia “Can I pet that dog?” – YouTube Thursday The music video for “Understanding in a Car Crash” Picks Jesse: “God Made Me An Animal” by Better Lovers Nat: “PM226” by Whimz & “Victorialand” by Cocteau Twins

Episode Summary This week Nat & Jesse nepotism in the music industry! Edited by Nat Show notes by Jesse Show Links Behind the Backlash Against Bud Light Zach Bryan Nepotism in indie music industry leads to unequal footing 11 Nepo-Baby Musicians Who Prove It Isn’t Just Hollywood That Has A Nepotism Problem It Runs in the Family: Nepotism in the Music Industry EDITORIAL: TikTok perpetuates nepotism in the music industry Nepo babies: what are they and why is Gen Z only just discovering them? Why Don’t Swedes Feed Their Guests? - Scandinavia Facts Halloween Horror Nights at Universal Studios Picks Nat: “Dénouement” by Respire Jesse: “Like Minds” by Gary Burton, Chick Corea, Pat Metheny, Roy Haynes, & Dave Holland (Recorded on IDK)

Episode Summary This week Nat & Jesse DIY! And also how we saw The Cure and it was amazing. Edited by Nat Show notes by Jesse Show Links The Cure 2023 tour The Cure's Robert Smith actually got Ticketmaster to refund fans those extra fees Sunn amps CBGB & OMFUG CBGB & OMFUG – Wikipedia Squeeze – Wikipedia Television – Wikipedia Bad Brain – Wikipedia Green Day – Wikipedia Melvins reveal why they fired Nirvana's Kurt Cobain as their producer: ‘He was a mess' Black Jeopardy SNL skit – YouTube Elon Musk Andrew Tate, Tucker Carlson support Russell Brand after sex assault claims Jack Antonoff Dream of Antonoffication | Pop Music's Blandest Prophet Picks Nat: Alanis Morissette – Jagged Little Pill Jesse: PJ Harvey – To Bring You My Love (Recorded on July 10, 2023 lol)

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Episode Summary This week Nat & Jesse talk WWE, Vince McMahon’s new mustache, Trump’s first indictment (this was recorded in like late April or early May of 2023 I’m sorry we are behind!), and Nat’s new album!!! It’s so good! Go buy it! Also, eventually we talk about what we’re calling “Pitchfork core”. If you don’t know what that is… you do. If you were listening to non-top 40 music between 2003 and 2015 you’ll be at home here. P.S. Ian Cohen can catch these hands. Stop giving everything that even has a hint of emo a 6.0 or less! Edited by Nat Show notes by Jesse Show Links WrestleMania 39 – Wikipedia UFC’s Endeavor set to buy WrestleMania company WWE – WaPo Vince McMahon has a mustache now and it’s terrifying – SI Trump has been indicted twice now – Wikipedia Apple Corps v Apple Computers – Wikipedia Buy Nat’s new album!!! “Ruins” by Spaceships The Mina Times Show ft. Lenny – ESPN Spittin’ Chicklets – Barstool Pitchfork dot com The history of Pitchfork reviews section in 38 reviews Pitchfork Music Festival Pitchfork Gives Music 6.8 – The Onion Pitchfork – Wikipedia Pitchfork Reviews Rescored Pitchfork’s “Sunday Review” of DC Talk’s “Jesus Freak” Pitchfork-core defined Anthony Fantano Picks Nat: “Pool Kids” by Pool Kids Jesse: “Scaring the Hoes” by Danny Brown & JPEG Mafia (Recorded on… IDK)

Episode Summary This week Nat & Jesse talk about the band The Cure, specifically their entire discography. Also, BUY NAT’S NEW ALBUM!!! I’m so proud of him, but don’t tell him I said that. Edited by Nat Show notes by Jesse Show Links The Cure – Wikipedia The Cure’s Discography – Wikipedia Robert Smith is not as excited as you – YouTube The Cure Acceptance Speech at the 2019 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony – YouTube Trent Reznor Inducts The Cure | Rock and Roll Hall of Fame 2019 (Full Speech) – YouTube disintegration is the best album ever – YouTube Picks Just listen Nat: “I Let It In & It Took Everything” by Loathe Jesse: “Disintegration” by The Cure (Recorded on… IDK)

Episode Summary This week Nat and Jesse talk about vinyl record collecting. Also, BUY NAT’S NEW ALBUM!!! I’m so proud of him, but don’t tell him I said that. Edited by Nat Show notes by Jesse Show Links Jeff Buckley performs “Lover, You Should’ve Come Over” live in Chicago – YouTube Jesse’s record collection on Discogs Nat’s record collection on Discogs Nat’s band’s new single “Spillt” featuring Ryan from the band Holy Fawn Jangle pop – Wikipedia RIP Jeff Beck – Wikipedia The forest moon of Endor – Wikipedia Michael Clayton – Wikipedia Jesse’s Sonos setup Very Detailed Turntable Setup for Beginners – YouTube Audiophile Label Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab Faces Class-Action Lawsuit Over ‘Fraudulent' Mastering Process Statements Guns N’ Roses – “Appetite for Destruction” – Wikipedia Picks Nat: “Disintegration” by The Cure Jesse: Disc one of “The River” by Bruce Springsteen (Recorded on Thursday, February 23, 2022)

Episode Summary Nat & Jesse (finally) do a 2022 year-end list! A month late! But that is at least more respectable than putting out your year-end list in early December! Edited by Nat Shownotes by Jesse Show Links Nat’s Year End List Nat actually blogged about this on his very good personal blog. I recommend reading it. Holy Fawnn — Dimensional Bleed Brutus — Unison Life The Smile — A Light for Attracting Attention Pedro the Lion — Havasu Cave-In – Heavy Pendulum Astronoid – Radiant Bloom Rolo Tomassi – Where Myth Becomes Memory SOM – The Shape of Everything Chalk Hands – Don’t Think About Death Calm Collapse – Mirrored Nature Cremation Lily – Dreams Drenched in Static Grivo – Omit Cold Gawd – God Get Me The Fuck Out Of Here HERIOT – Profound Morality Joe Baughman & the Righteous Few – Antichrist Complex Jesse’s Year End List Spoon — Lucifer on the Sofa Wilco — Cruel Country Holy Fawnn — Dimensional Bleed Conjurer — Pathos Pusha T — It's Almost Dry Freddie Gibbs — $oul $old $eparately The Smile — A Light for Attracting Attention Brutus — Unison Life Chat Pile — God's Country Pianos Become the Teeth — Drift

Episode Summary This week Nat and Jesse dive into music urban legends and how they some how spread even without the help of social media. Edited by Nat Show notes by Jesse Show Links Survivorship bias – Wikipedia About lead-based paint “Welcome to My House” by Nu Breed & Jesse Howard – YouTube Paul is dead – Wikipedia Somebody Asked MARILYN MANSON If He Actually Had His Ribs Removed To Suck His Own Dick Was shock rocker Marilyn Manson Kevin’s geeky sidekick on TV’s ‘The Wonder Years’? Did the Beatles really smoke marijuana in Buckingham Palace? Dark Side of the Rainbow – Wikipedia Backmasking & Fundamentalist Christian groups – Wikipedia WHY THE ‘TUPAC LIVES’ CONSPIRACY REFUSES TO DIE Elvis sightings – Wikipedia Meet Joe Black intro death scene – YouTube Ozzy Osbourne Bit the Head Off a Live Bat 40 Years Ago Today Alice Cooper, Golf Monster: A Rock ‘n’ Roller’s Life and 12 Steps to Becoming a Golf Addict Weezer – Rolling Stone article - June 20, 2002 Picks Nat: “Song of Salvation” by Dream Unending Jesse: “Live at the Lexington” by Owen (Recorded on Tuesday, November 11, 2022)

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Episode Summary We’re back! This week we catch up and talk about dad rock! Edited by Nat Show notes by Jesse Show Links Dad Rock playlist – Spotify A Brief History of Dad Rock – YouTube I Introduced the Term ‘Dad-Rock’ to the World. I Have Regrets. – Esquire 40 Bands That Define “Dad Rock” – Spin We Interviewed a Ton of Dads About Dad Rock – Vice Harry Chapin – Spotify Jacob Givens is a must follow on Instagram Cool Dad Raising Daughter On Media That Will Put Her Entirely Out Of Touch With Her Generation Brutus “War” (Live at Rain City Picks Nat: “Unison Life” by Brutus Jesse: “Midwestern Farmer’s Daughter” by Margo Price (Recorded on Tuesday, October 25, 2022)

Episode Summary This week we talk about things we got wrong regarding music. Edited by Nat Show notes by Jesse Show Links Torches Together: A Tribute to mewithoutYou “In a Sweater Poorly Knit” (mewithoutYou cover) – The Foxes in the Vineyard & the Electric St. Lucy – YouTube A Year of Vinyl – Nat’s music review blog Ashley Madison – Wikipedia “How to do Nothing” by Jenny Odell Infamous Pitchfork review of “The Fragile” by Nine Inch Nails (It’s really bad) Michigan Fest 2002. I was there man… Picks Nat: The Rehearsal by Nathan Fielder Jesse: “Lost in the Dream” by The War on Drugs (Recorded on Thursday, August 8, 2022)

Episode Summary This week Jesse tries to get into Thrice and disappoints Nat. Edited by Nat Show notes by Jesse Show Links Jim Brewer’s terrible 2022 stand-up special – YouTube A Goofy Movie – Wikipedia Dane Cook – Wikipedia Paxlovid rebound Rafi’s “Baby Beluga” – Wikipedia The Bear TV show Thrice – Wikipedia The Thrice playlist Nat made for Jesse – Spotify Brand New – Wikipedia Hillsong United – Wikipedia Picks Nat: “Omit” by Grivo Jesse: “Remission” by Mastodon (Recorded on Weekday, July 14, 2022)

This week Nat & Jesse give their musical hot takes! If you disagree with us at any way please email Nat about it. Edited by Nat Show notes by Jesse Show Links Big Tymers – Still Fly – YT Jesse’s obnoxious 2022 Warrior’s Championship Hat Billy Joel’s “Movin Out” but it repeats heart attack 124 times – YT Metallica Earns Its Top Billing of the Big Four We Asked These 5 Slayer Fans When Exactly It All Went Wrong for Them – The Hard Times Opinion: Fuckin’ Slayer – The Hard Times Metalhead Running out of Body Parts to Carve Slayer Into – The Hard Times Anthrax & Public Enemy - Bring The Noise – YT Public Enemy: The Forgotten Innovators Of Post-Hardcore Katy Perry – Teenage Dream – Wikipedia The Antlers – Wikipedia Goo Goo Dolls – Wikipedia A “human video” to “Iris” by Goo Goo Dolls – YT Black Sabbath – Wikipedia Dio – Wikipedia Daniel Johnston – Wikipedia KISS – Wikipedia Detroit Rock City – Wikipedia KISS: Does It Stand for ‘Knights in Satan's Service'? – Snopes Insane Clown Posse Admit To Being Evangelical Christians, Don’t Want To Know How Fucking Magnets Work Javelins Fawnn Thunderbirds Are Now! – Wikipedia Grizzly Bear – Veckatimest – Wikipedia Creed – Wikipedia Ron Kenoly – Ancient of Days (Live) – YT Picks Nat: “Radiant Bloom” by Astronoid Jesse: “A Diabolic Thirst” by Spectral Wound (Recorded on Tuesday, July 5, 2022)

Episode Summary This week Nat & Jesse dive into the “garage rock revival” of the early 2000s. Edited by Nat Show notes by Jesse Show Links Meet Me In Bathroom – Wikipedia What is the joke in ‘Sidney Applebaum' on SNL? Post-punk revival – Wikipedia The Strokes “Is This It” Pitchfork review The White Stripes - Fell In Love With A Girl – YouTube KoRn - Got The Life – YouTube Limp Bizkit – Faith – YouTube Linkin Park – One Step Closer – YouTube The Hives – Hate To Say I Told You So – YouTube The Vines – Get Free – YouTube Post-grunge – Wikipedia Top 10 Garage Rock Revival Bands: Where Are They Now? Yeah Yeah Yeahs – Maps – YouTube The Killers – Mr. Brightside – YouTube Almost Famous – Wikipedia Franz Ferdinand – Take Me Out – YouTube Kaiser Chiefs – Ruby – YouTube The Bravery - An Honest Mistake – YouTube Interpol – Obstacle 1 – YouTube Bloc Party – Banquet – YouTube Vampire Weekend – A-Punk – YouTube Arcade Fire – Rebellion (Lies) – YouTube The Weird Gear of Wes Borland The Kills – No Wow – YouTube Arctic Monkeys – I Bet You Look Good On The Dancefloor – YouTube The Futureheads – First Day – YouTube TV on the Radio – Wolf Like Me – YouTube Liam Gallagher vs. Noel Gallagher | Celebrity Deathmatch – YouTube Ryan Adams – New York New York – YouTube LCD Soundsystem – Losing My Edge – YouTube At the Drive-In – “One-Armed Scissors” LIVE on The Late Show on 9/12/2001 – YouTube The worst cover of all time – YouTube Conan O’Brien Can’t Stop – Wikipedia Picks Nat: “Heavy Pendulum” by Cave In Jesse: “Crawler” by IDLES (Recorded on Weekday, Month 21, 2022)

Episode Summary This week we are live! Sort of. We aren’t live for you, but we were in each other’s presence and recorded live with Rosemary in the Galaxy Brain studios in SF! And we talk about the 1967 Summer of Love! Sort of… Edited by Nat Show notes by Jesse Show Links Galaxy Brain studios Brain Tape “Friends with Burger-fits” – Bob’s Burgers – Wikipedia Ron Swanson’s Best Friend — Parks & Rec — YouTube Muir Woods THE EWOKS WERE NAMED AFTER THE NATIVE AMERICAN TRIBE MIWOK The Summer of Love – Wikipedia Long, hot summer of 1967 – Wikipedia Dot-com bubble – Wikipedia Why George Harrison asked Eric Clapton to perform on ‘While My Guitar Gently Weeps’ The mayor of SF in 1967; John F. Shelley – Wikipedia The CIA’s Secret Quest For Mind Control: Torture, LSD And A ‘Poisoner In Chief’ Expand Your Mind — How to Grow Psychedelic Mushrooms Using Uncle Ben's Rice “I’m shocked! Shocked! To find that gambling is going on in here!” – Casablanca – YouTube 27 Club – Wikipedia “Every day, somebody’s born who’s never seen The Flintstones” – or, why telling it once isn’t enough Maharishi Mahesh Yogi – Wikipedia “Forever Changes” by Love – Wikipedia State of Jefferson – Wikipedia This Woman Who Was Almost Part of the OG Destiny’s Child Lineup Just Auditioned on The Voice Jon Brion – Wikipedia Hellraiser Rights Return to Clive Barker in 2021 Picks Rosemary: “The Brass Tax” by Downward Nat: “Odessey and Oracle” by The Zombies Jesse: “Cruel Country” by Wilco (Recorded on Tuesday, May 31, 2022)

Episode Summary This week Nat & Jesse put on their Stetsons and discuss modern country music & their path to loving (some) modern country. Edited by Nat Show notes by Jesse Show Links Make South Bend owners reinvest in River Park with plans to purchase building Don Corneo “I hate the f***in’ Eagles man” — The Big Lebowski “Come On Over” by Shania Twain – Wikipedia Alan Jackson - Chattahoochee – YouTube “Sold (The Grundy County Auction Incident)” – John Michael Montgomery – YouTube Big & Rich Cowboy Troy – Wikipedia Ryan Adams – Wikipedia Jason Isbell The Origins of Country Music Jason Isbell Locates His Musical Compass On ‘Southeastern’ Bright Eyes: Tiny Desk (Home) Concert – YouTube Atkinson’s “Intro to Country” Playist – Spotify Jesse performs “The Righteous Path” by Drive-By Truckers on ep. 35 of “It Might Get Personal” – YouTube “Southern Girl” by Jesse’s old band The Jacets – Spotify KIDZ BOP Kids – Disturbia – YouTube Nat mashed-up “Jesus Walks” & “Loser” Rick Ross Recounts Correctional Officer Experience, Says He Only Beefs With Rappers ‘With More Money Than Me' Chris Stapleton’s Tiny Desk Concert – YouTube Jenny Lewis Kacey Musgraves and Spotify Took Fans Back in Time With a '90s-Inspired Pre-Album Event Experience Trace Adkins - Honky Tonk Badonkadonk – YouTube Morgan Wallen Party - SNL – YouTube Opinion: F***in’ Slayer! Picks Jesse: “Reckless” by Morgan Wade Nat: “Dreams Drenched in Static” by Cremation Lily (Recorded on Weekday, May 03, 2022)

Episode Summary This week Jesse & Nat discuss what makes a good Bond theme. Edited by Nat Show notes by Jesse Show Links Elden Ring – Wikipedia The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild – Wikipedia The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim – Wikipedia Horizon Zero Dawn – Wikipedia Horizon Forbidden West – Wikipedia Everything Everywhere All at Once – Wikipedia In the Mood for Love – Wikipedia James Bond music – Wikipedia James Bond Movie Theme Songs, Ranked Worst to Best Pet Sounds was originally meant to be a James Bond theme Fifty Years Later, Johnny Cash’s Rejected Theme Song For James Bond’s “Thunderball” Is Still Pretty Great Radiohead’s “Spectre” Pulp's Awesome Rejected James Bond theme song Picks Nat: “Twin Dream” by Glassing Jesse: “Mier” by Kvelertak (Recorded on Weekday, April 19, 2022)

Episode Summary This week we talk extensively about mewithoutYou – Nat's favorite band – in depth. Edited by Nat Show notes by Jesse Show Links “Diatonic Major And Minor Scales” by Andres Segovia Go listen to Nat's band SPACESHIPS and buy their stuff! mewithoutYou – Wikipedia mewithoutYou Discography – Wikipedia “All the Clever Words on Pages: A Portrait of My Friendship with Aaron Weiss of mewithoutYou” by Paul Matthew Harrison The Psalty website is something else… Shane Claiborne – Wikipedia Star Wars described by a non-fan from In the Thick of It A collection of mewithoutYou interviews from over the years in order of publication My name's Aaron Weiss, I'm an aquarius. I'm 25 years old and I live with my parents. Published: early October 2004 Jesus Freak Hideout interview with mewithoutYou Published: June 6, 2009 An Interview with MewithoutYou: More Stories To Tell Published: January 7, 2015 mewithoutYou Frontman's Sexuality Is an Open Book Published: June 24, 2015 Things got a bit deep when we interviewed mewithoutYou Published: August 5, 2015 Q&A: mewithoutYou grew, faced turmoil, and made their best album in years Published: October 1, 2018 mewithoutYou: “I'd like to think that it's not too late to start again” Cult faves mewithoutYou are getting on for twenty years in the game, and they're still one of the most interesting bands around. Published: October 24, 2018 TIPPING THE SWEAR JAR: HOW MEWITHOUTYOU USED THE F-BOMB TO SAY MORE THAN THE F-WORD Published: January 16, 2020 Aaron Weiss of mewithoutYou Talks Returning to The Stage & the Pros & Cons of Long Distance Publish: August 9, 2021 Picks Nat: “Don't Think About Death” by Chalk Hands Jesse: “What's Going On” by Marvin Gaye (Recorded on Thursday, March 24, 2021)

Episode Summary This week we discuss guilty pleasures and basically how we don’t have any. (This is less about actual guilty pleasures and more about loving your past self.) Edited by Nat Show notes by Jesse Show Links New Orleans Vacation – SNL – YouTube The Used – Wikipedia The number 88 in white nationalism and supremacy – Wikipedia ’Guilty' Pleasures? No Such Thing The Eraser by Thom Yorke – Wikipedia The Fall by Gorillaz – Wikipedia Lou Reed – Wikipedia For Damon Albarn, modern life is still pretty much rubbish ‘It's F-cked Up to Try and Discredit My Writing': Taylor Swift Fires Back at Blur's Damon Albarn Two Alleged Victims of Brand New's Jesse Lacey Detail Years of Sexual Exploitation of Minors Louder Than Life Chester Bennington – Wikipedia Michael Tate is the lead singer of The Newsboys Orchid – Wikipedia “War All the Time” by Thursday – YouTube Piebald – Wikipedia The Ataris – Wikipedia Audioslave’s self-titled record – Wikipedia “I Want You” by Savage Garden WHY GROWN-ASS MEN GET SO EMOTIONAL ABOUT CARLY RAE JEPSEN Pitchfork Reviews: Rescored Pitchfork originally gave Clarity by Jimmy Eat World a scathing review and a score of 3.5. Weezer – SNL “Keep Fishin’” by Weezer SARSfest – Wikipedia Picks Jesse: “Voodoo” by D’Angelo Nat: “Actor” by St. Vincent (Recorded on Thursday, March 10, 2022)

Episode Summary This week Nat & Jesse discuss ethical music consumption. What is our responsibility as listeners and fans? Is it on us to right the wrongs of the music industry and streaming services paying artists pennies? Edited by Nat Show notes by Jesse Show Links Cody Rhodes – Wikipedia “The Boys in the Bar” episode of Cheers – Wikipedia Last Man Standing – Wikipedia The Good Place – Wikipedia Love Is Blind – Wikipedia Varg Vikernes – Wikipedia What.CD – Wikipedia How much does Spotify pay per stream? Streaming payouts comparison [2021] How much did vinyl music sales grow in 2021? (Hint: a lot) The Devil Still Unable to Get Out of Contract With Victory Records A DAY TO REMEMBER Awarded $4 Million In Contract Dispute With Victory Records RedGorilla Music Festival – Wikipedia The Full(est Possible) Story of the Four Seasons Total Landscaping Press Conference Grandma Moses – Wikipedia Spotify Bet Big on Joe Rogan. It Got More Than It Counted On. Forever 21 Sold Bootleg Minor Threat Shirts Fugazi - Waiting Room - Cleveland School of Rock – YouTube Apple's 30% Fee, an Industry Standard, Is Showing Cracks Jainism – Wikipedia Picks Jesse: “Lucifer on the Sofa” by Spoon Nat: “Possessions” by Blushing (Recorded on Tuesday, March 8, 2022)

Episode Summary This week Jesse made a rap playlist for Nat and made Nat listen to radically popular rap songs from the past decade that he’s never heard. Edited by Nat Show notes by Jesse Show Links “non-woke rap 4 nat” Spotify playlist Jesse made for Nat Zack Snyder Steps Down From ‘Justice League' to Deal With Family Tragedy Furnace Fest Drummer Implicates Dave Grohl in Shelving of Sunny Day Real Estate Album Mos Def to change his name in 2012 What Happened at Travis Scott's Astroworld Concert? The Grey Album – Wikipedia Datpiff – The Authority on Free Mixtapes Nat’s mashup of Fugazi’s “Waiting Room” & Jay-Z’s “Lucifer” Missy Elliott – “The Rain (Supa Dupa Fly)” – YouTube WHY KANYE'S LINKS TO TELEVANGELIST JOEL OSTEEN COULD HAVE SINISTER UNDERTONES Cowboy Troy – Wikipedia MTV Crib’s episode w/ Redman – YouTube Redman: MTV Tried to Get Me to Rent a House for “Cribs” – YouTube I Introduced the Term ‘Dad-Rock’ to the World. I Have Regrets. Picks Nat: Eugenius – “Midlife” – Spotify Jesse: Amelie Lens vinyl only home session – YouTube (Recorded on Weekday, February 22, 2022)

Episode Summary This week we do our second deep dive into a singular band’s discography (sort of… we get hand-wavey for the latter albums), The Smashing Pumpkins! Edited by Nat Show notes by Jesse Show Links Eric Clapton’s “This Has Gotta Stop” – YouTube Hear an Eyewitness Account of Eric Clapton's ‘Full-Tilt Racist' 1976 Onstage Rant Vaccine Skeptic Eric Clapton Insists He Just Loves ‘Freedom of Choice' Hannibal Buress: how a comedian reignited the Bill Cosby allegations The Smashing Pumpkins – Wikipedia Zwan – Wikipedia The Smashing Pumpkins on “The Simpsons” - S7E24 ‘Homerpalooza’ Billy Corgan Confirms WWE Turned Down Buying the NWA Before He Purchased It The Big Muff – Wikipedia Dinosaur Jr. Leader Says He Nearly Joined Nirvana Twice Reverb SMASHING PUMPKINS TO HOLD OPEN AUDITIONS FOR NEW DRUMMER PAWS Chicago 20th Anniversary Magazine Smashing Pumpkins Frontman William Corgan & Chloe Mendel Advocacy, Family and Touring With a Toddler Mötley Crüe's Tommy Lee says it was a ‘big challenge' working with Smashing Pumpkins Picks Nat: “Gypsum” by Gypsum Jesse: “Pretty Girls Like Trap Music” by 2 Chainz (Recorded on Wednesday, February 2, 2022)

Episode Summary This week Nat and I get into our approach to songwriting. Edited by Nat Show notes by Jesse Show Links Internet of Shit Twitter account The Facebook Outage – A Postmortem When We Were Young Festival Your Scene Sucks Every Time I Die is having an ugly break-up Pedro the Lion surprise releases “Havasu” Aqua Teen Hunger Force – Wikipedia If you haven’t listened to Nat’s band Spaceships yet you really should “The Ship Is Sinking” by Lune Muse – Wikipedia Jesse’s old band the Jacets Jason Isbell The secret rhythm behind Radiohead’s “Videotape” – YouTube Picks Nat: Life On Venus – “Odes to the Void” – Spotify Jesse: Floating Points & Pharoah Sanders – “Promises” – Spotify (Recorded on Sunday, January 20, 2022)

Episode Summary This week we dive into why people stop listening to new & current music as they get older and how we haven’t (totally) fallen victim to this. Jesse’s take is predictably viewed through the lens of Marxism. Nat’s is much more gracious and concerned with aging. Edited by Nat Show notes by Jesse Show Links The Big Podcast w/ Shaq Barkley Shut Up and Jam 2 – Wikipedia The Undertaker on Hot Ones – YouTube Sting is 62yo & still wrestling – Wikipedia The Cure – Wikipedia Kate Bush – Wikipedia Nick Cave – Wikipedia Bob Seger & The Silver Bullet Band – “Night Movies” – YouTube Flyleaf – Wikipedia Tony Robbins – Wikipedia I Think You Should Leave with Tim Robinson a Comedy Show Why I Still Love My Alkaline Trio Tattoo “You can’t bring Pepsi” – YouTube “Understanding In A Car Crash” by Thursday – YouTube My Bloody Valentine's shows were so loud they feared destroying venues: “Chunks were falling out of the ceiling” “()” by Sigur Ros – Wikipedia Jupiter Ascending – How Did This Get Made? Anthony Fantano AKA The Needle Drop – YouTube TwinsthenewTrend react to “In the Air Tonight” – YouTube Rage Against the Machine (first time reaction) Picks Nat: HarborLights – “Isolation Ritual” Jesse: The Strokes – “The New Abnormal” (Recorded on Sunday, January 12, 2022)

Episode Summary Jesse's Tiger Electronic games his parents, for some reason, still have. This week we catch up after the holidays and discuss our families’ influence on our own musical tastes. Edited by Nat Show notes by Jesse Show Links GEICO Cavemen TV show – Wikipedia Why ‘Jake from State Farm' Had to be Re-Cast Pope Francis claims pets replacing children in many families is ‘selfish.’ That’s rich. The Complete History and List of Tiger Electronics Handheld Games Clydesdale horse – Wikipedia Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping plot – Wikipedia Harry Chapin – Wikipedia Hanson – Wikipedia Petra – Wikipedia DC Talk – Wikipedia KJ–52 – Wikipedia “Will Smith don’t gotta cuss in his raps…” The Batman Forever Soundtrack – Wikipedia Phil Keaggy – Wikipedia Primus – Wikipedia Stevie Ray Vaughan – Wikipedia Stevie breaks a string & his guitar tech swaps his guitar flawlessly – YouTube (3:03) 8-track tape – Wikipedia Ben Folds – Wikipedia Mayor Pete & Ben Folds jam together – YouTube ‘Pete’s wine cave’: Why Buttigieg’s rivals are slamming his Napa fundraiser Kyuss – Wikipedia Josh Homme – Wikipedia Picks Nat: SOM – “The Shape of Everything” – Spotify Jesse: Silk Sonic – “An Evening with Silk Sonic” – Spotify (Recorded on Sunday, January 5, 2022)

Episode Summary Nat & Jesse swing the pendulum back from pop music to the opposite side of the spectrum. We talk hard-to-listen-to / avant garde music. “Challenging” music, if you will. “I never worked out what it was that possessed me when music possessed other than I always wanted it.” “Furthermore it made me someone of course. Thanks to music I became someone who was the forefront. Someone you had to admire. Not as much as you had to admire those who made the music admittedly. But as a listener I was in the vanguard.” From “My Struggle” by Karl Ove Knausgard Show Links “Drunken Hot Girls” by Kanye West ft. Yasiin Bey sampling Can – YouTube “Less Than You Think” by Wilco – YouTube A Jesus Piece: Looking Back at Christianity's Role in Metalcore Converge – “Jane Doe” – Wikipedia Cool Hand Luke – “I Fought Against Myself” – Spotify Anathallo – Wikipedia Tangerine Dream – Wikipedia King Crimson – Wikipedia Braid – Wikipedia Hey Mercedes – Wikipedia ARTHUR: Binky’s Musical Daydream – YouTube Daughters – “Canada Songs” – Wikipedia Interpunk Orchid – Wikipedia WHAT. THE. HELL. WHO IS ARCADE FIRE????? Charles Mingus – “Blues & Roots” – Wikipedia Archie Shepp – “Kwanza” – Wikipedia Joe McPhee – “Nation Time” – Wikipedia Grizzly Bear – “Veckatimest” – Wikipedia Deerhunter – “Cryptograms” – Wikipedia Aphex Twin – “Film” – YouTube Merzbow – Wikipedia Rafael Toral – “Wave Field” – Bandcamp Captain Beefheart – “Trout Mask Replica” – Wikipedia Danielson – Wikipedia Ryuichi Sakamoto – Wikipedia Nat’s weekly picks – School of Seven Bells – “SVIIB” – Wikipedia Jesse’s weekly picks – Olivia Rodrigo – “Sour” – Wikipedia Recorded on Sunday, November 28, 2021.

Episode Summary Nat & Jesse talk about pop music they like because we are stereotypically music nerds who don’t listen a lot of pop music. Edited by Nat Shownotes by Jesse Show Links Justin Timberlake on SNL – Immigrant Tale Pharrell Williams – Wikipedia The Black Eyed Peas – “Where is the Love?” – YouTube Captain EO – Wikipedia You guys, Nat wasn’t hallucinating this. OMG. Kelly Clarkson – “Since You’ve Been Gone” – YouTube Drive Like Jehu – Wikipedia is so good, you guys. Imogen Heap – “Hide & Seek” – YouTube “mmmmmmmm whachusayyyyyyyyy”; Marissa shoots Trey on The O.C. – YouTube Frou Frou – Wikipedia Kraftwerk – Wikipedia Detroit Techno – Wikipedia Belleville Three – Wikipedia Global Underground – Wikipedia Katy Perry – “Teenage Dream” – Wikipedia The dude from Reliant K dated Katy Perry – Wikipedia Sonic Youth – “Daydream Nation” – Wikipedia Sex Pistols were a boyband Why Doesn't Pitchfork Review Artists Like Taylor Swift (Unless They're Covered by Ryan Adams)? Mountain Goats “No Children” on TikTok “Head Like a Hole” + “Call Me Maybe” mashup – YouTube (This is so good y’all) Carly Rae Jepsen – “Emotion” – Wikipedia Give Carly Rae Jepsen a sword Why grown-ass men get so emotional about Carly Rae Jepsen Tool “Stinkfist” + Taylor Swift “We are never getting back together” mashup – YouTube Justin Bieber vs. Slipknot - “Psychosocial Baby” – YouTube Joe Pera discovers The Who – YouTube Nat’s weekly pick — Apparently the entire Wire discography – Wikipedia Jesse’s weekly pick — Taylor Swift – “Red” – Wikipedia Recorded on Sunday, November 11, 2021.

Episode Summary The Atkinson's Peanut's Nativity set Nat & Jesse discuss whether or not Christmas music is good actually and then dive into their list of year end favorites. Edited by Nat Shownotes by Jesse Show Links The Fox News Christmas tree fire set to some tunes Keith Urban & Toby Keith are not the same person, apparently Sufjan Stevens – “Silver & Gold” – Wikipedia She & Him Christmas Collection – Spotify Jesse’s least-favorite Christmas song, Paul McCartney’s “Wonderful Christmastime” – YouTube What do She & Him want for Christmas? ‘Real instruments' played by humans Justin Bieber’s very lazy “cover” of “All I Want For Christmas Is You” – YouTube Apparently there was a Muppets tv show in 2015!? – Wikipedia Hamm & Bublé – SNL – YouTube Bing Crosby (not Sinatra) doesn’t remember the reindeer’s names – YouTube Fergie voiced Sally Brown on Peanuts Fergie singing the national anthem Draymond Green & Warriors Respond to Josh Duhamel (Fergie’s husband) For Fergie Comments With TROLL Anthem Remix NPR, Pitchfork, Rolling Stones, & Paste Year End List Jesse’s 2021 Picks Crypta — Echoes of the Soul Turnstile — Glow On Taylor Swift — Red (Taylor’s Version) Every Time I Die — Radial Converge + Chelsea Wolfe — Bloodmoon: I The War on Drugs — I Don’t Live Here Any More Deafheaven — Infinite Granite Kacey Musgraves — star-crossed Olivia Rodrigo — Sour Gorillaz — Song Machine, Season One: Strange Times Nat’s 2021 Picks Lantlôs - Wildhund Deafheaven - Infinite Granite Thrice - Horizons/East Mogwai - As the Love Continues Manchester Orchestra - The Million Masks of God Gojira - Fortitude Converge + Chelsea Wolfe — Bloodmoon: I Bossk - Migration Five Iron Frenzy - Until This All Shakes Apart Slow Crush - Hush Amenra - De Doorn Zao - The Crimson Corridor Big Brave - Vital The Armed - Ultrapop Shy Low - The Snake Behind the Sun Recorded on Sunday, December 12, 20212.

Were the 90s the best decade for music or are we just old? "Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes." — Henry David Thoreau, Walden The quote Jesse thinks of when he remembers he asked for snowboarding gear for Christmas once and barely used it. Show Links Suicide of Kurt Cobain – Wikipedia The Dirt: Confessions of the World's Most Notorious Rock Band by Mötley Crüe Sunny Day Real Estate perform "Seven" on Jon Stewart – YouTube Golden age hip hop – Wikipedia "You Ask, We Answer: 'Parental Advisory' Labels — The Criteria And The History" Anthony Fantano's review of "To Pimp A Butterfly" by Kendrick Lamar – YouTube How Puff Daddy's Bad Boy Empire helped shape contemporary hip-hop Music video for "Smells Like Teen Spirit" by Nirvana – YouTube Blur and Oasis' big Britpop chart battle – the definitive story of what really happened Liam Gallagher vs. Noel Gallagher | Celebrity Deathmatch – YouTube Oasis ● 1996 ● MTV Unplugged ● Liam Heckling – YouTube What Would Billy Joel Do? bit from Community – YouTube "Dude (Looks Like a Lady)" by Aerosmith – YouTube "The Perfect Drug" by Nine Inch Nails – YouTube "Scream" by Michael Jackson – YouTube "Remember the Time" by Michael Jackson – YouTube "Eat It" by "Weird Al" Yankovic – YouTube "Smells Like Nirvana" by "Weird Al" Yankovic – YouTube "Loser" by Beck – YouTube "Devils Haircut" by Beck – YouTube "I'm Afraid of Americans" by David Bowie – YouTube The Story of "Teenage Dirtbag" by Wheatus – YouTube Dee Snider vs Tipper Gore 1984 - Senate hearing PMRC (Parents Music Resource Center) – YouTube Metallica: Some Kind of Monster – Wikipedia Nat's weekly pick — Joy Division's Unknown Pleasures (33 1/3 Series) – Amazon Jesse's weekly pick — Every Time I Die "Radical" – Spotify (Episode recorded Sunday November 7, 2021)

Shownotes Show Links Mint You Need a Budget Breaking Bad RV Tours Clarkson's Farm — Wikipedia Deftones — Wikipedia Glassjaw — Wikipedia Thrice — Wikipedia Fuse TV still exists! Pen & Pixel, who made the cover art for a lot of southern rap artists in the 90s — Wikipedia The Best Pen & Pixel Rap Covers Korn — Follow the Leader — Wikipedia Limp Bizkit — Three Dollar Bill Y'all — Wikipedia Eminem — Slim Shady LP — Wikipedia Kid Rock — Bullgod — YouTube Tool — Wikipedia — Wikipedia onelinedrawing's cover of “Be Quiet & Drive (Far Away)” — YouTube XKCD — Ten Thousand Coma-stricken Deftones' star Chi Cheng dies with mom ‘singing songs he liked in his ear' Palms — Wikipedia Isis — Wikipedia “Back to School (Mini Maggot)” thrown on the front of “White Pony” — Wikipedia Fugazi “Instrument” film — Wikipedia Nat's friend Joe's project — Rhymer/Educator — Spotify Nat's weekly pick — Shabazz Palaces — “Black Up” — Full album stream on YouTube Jesse's weekly pick — Ted Leo + Pharmacists — “Hearts of Oak” — Wikipedia (Episode recorded Sunday October 31, 2021)

Shownotes Show Links LiveJournal — Wikipedia — You had to be there. Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater — Wikipedia Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater Soundtrack — Spotify The Blood Brothers — Wikipedia Wilco — Wikipedia Sunny Day Real Estate perform “Guitar and Video Games” — YouTube “The Wild History Of Demo Discs, Shareware And Covertapes” — Kotaku FuncoLand — Wikipedia — Jesse worked here in high school. It sucked. PS One — Wikipedia 2001 was a really good year for video games — Wikipedia Tim Roger’s review of DOOM is incredible and well worth your time — YouTube Stone Temple Pilots — Wikipedia Limp Bizkit “Faith” music video — YouTube Orgy Blue “Monday” music video — YouTube Powerman 5000’s lead singer Spider One is Rob Zombie’s little brother — Wikipedia Static X — Wikipedia The Space Jam soundtrack was incredible — Wikipedia The Batman Forever soundtrack is so much better than it has any right to be — Wikipedia Trent Reznor did the soundtrack for Quake — Wikipedia Tetris theme techno remix — YouTube Final Fantasy VIII “Balamb Garden” theme — YouTube — The most peaceful instrumental ever. Aphex Twin — Wikipedia Michael Jackson may or may not have done the soundtrack for Sonic the Hedgehog 3 Mega Man 3’s theme for the Shadow Man stage goes so hard and is maybe the first dubstep song???? — YouTube NFL Blitz — Wikipedia Green Day’s “Dookie” — Wikipedia Travis Barker plays drums in Goldfinger sometimes — Wikipedia Nat’s weekly pick — The Melvins’ “Stoner Witch” — Spotify Jesse’s weekly pick — Boris + Merzbow’s “2R0I2P0” — Spotify

Jesse & Nat share their experiences at Riot Fest & Furnace Fest respectively 1/2 way through the episode Jesse’s mic decided to go terrible. Super apologize for that. Shouldn’t happen moving forward. Show Links Furnace Fest Riot Fest Seinfeld “The Airport” — Wikipedia Alkaline Trio “Goddammit” — Wikipedia Celebrating Mexican Independence Day, Chicago-style — Chicago Tribune James Baldwin — Wikipedia Thursday “War All the Time” — YouTube Astronoid — Spotify Sublime’s extremely problematic “Wrong Way” lyrics A New Found Glory’s “Nothing Gold Can Stay” — Wikipedia Sunny Day Real Estate’s “LP2” & “How It Feels To Be Something On” — Wikipedia Pitchfork Music Fest Thursday cover Bruce Springsteen’s “Dancing In The Dark” — YouTube Andrew WK deletes social media and postpones tour dates John Bunch of Further Seems Forever — Wikipedia David Bazan of Pedro the Lion on his change of faith “Emo is Awesome / Emo is Evil 1” compilation Nat’s Weekly Pick — Elliott Smith’s “Elliott Smith” — Wikipedia Jesse’s Weekly Pick — Taking Back Sunday “Tidal Wave” — Wikipedia

Get to know your hosts as Nat and Jesse discuss their formative tentpole moments as music fans, important moments along their journeys, and where they are now. Links to things mentioned: Nat's music review website, “A Year of Vinyl”. “Blackgaze” genre Alcest Deafheaven Isis (the band) The explosion of Christian metalcore Zao Project 86 P.O.D. CCM PFR (Pray for Rain) DC Talk (Pitchfork article on its cultural impact of "Jesus Freak") Sixpence None the Richer The rise of nü-metal Linkin Park & their record “Hybrid Theory” KoRn & their record “Follow the Leader” Christian alternatives to “secular” music Green Day MxPx Other moments: Weezer's “Buddy Holly” music video. My buddy Matt Rickle & The Get Up Kids & Matt's excellent band Javelins Thursday & their video for “Understanding in a Car Crash”. Sigur Ros The Mars Volta Indie rock gets popular Bright Eyes The O.C. & Seth Cohen Weekly Picks Nat: Thrice - Horizons/East Five Iron Frenzy - Until This Shakes Apart Sugarhorse - The Live Long After Daughters - You Won't Get What You Want Amenra - De Doorn Deafheaven - Infinite Granite Manchester Orchestra - The Million Masks of God The Armed - Ultrapop Jesse: Turnstile - Glow On @detuned radio pod on Twitter and Instagram