Other People's Shoes

Season Finale – Heart Pain (Unedited & Unfiltered)

In this powerful episode of Other People's Shoes, we explore the true meaning of transformation — not just physically, but emotionally and mentally. Much like the 80s classic Transformers cartoon, where characters could shift into stronger, more capable versions of themselves, today's guest, Roman Fischer reveals how he tapped into that same transformative power through fitness. Bullied and body-shamed growing up, Roman struggled with negative thoughts and the pain of others' judgments. But everything changed when he discovered the gym. What started as a way to escape became a path to empowerment. Through the discipline of weight lifting, Roman found confidence, clarity, and control over his own narrative.We dive into:Roman's early experiences with bullying and self-doubtHow fitness became a safe place for growth and healingThe mindset shift that helped him overcome negativityWhy it's never too late to start your health journeyThe power of routine and showing up, even on the hard daysHis favorite quote: "Motivation gets you going, but consistency keeps you growing."If you've ever struggled to take the first step toward your goals or felt limited by your past. Roman reminds us all that we are more than meets the eye — and that the strongest transformation always starts within. Join me as I walk in Roman's shoes. 

Let's use our imagination for a moment.Picture a puzzle box—1,000 pieces, maybe more. You've just opened it. The pieces spill out across the table. As you begin flipping each one over, you try to envision what the finished picture will look like. Piece by piece, the image becomes clearer. You start to feel that satisfaction of progress… until you realize something's not right. Some pieces are missing. No matter how hard you search, they're just not there.This is more than just a frustrating puzzle. For Dr. Danisha Keating, it's a metaphor for her life.Danisha grew up in the foster care system—moving from place to place, often without answers or a sense of stability. As an adult, she recently attempted to retrieve her childhood records, hoping to uncover the truth about what led to her placement in foster care. She was seeking answers, clarity, and maybe even healing. But instead, she found redacted files. Pages of information blacked out. Details erased. Just like a puzzle with critical pieces gone.Her story brought to mind a song I hadn't heard in years: “Does Anybody Hear Her” by Casting Crowns. The lyrics still hit hard:"Does anybody see?Or does anybody even know she's going down today?Under the shadow of our steepleWith all the lost and lonely peopleSearching for the hope that's tucked away in you and me..."Danisha's story is one of heartbreak, yes—but also of incredible resilience. She has taken those blank spaces, those unanswered questions, and chosen to build something beautiful with what she does have. She's now a speaker, educator, and advocate—helping others find hope amid their missing pieces.In this episode, we lace up and try on Dr. Danisha Keating's boots—walking with her through trauma, silence, and discovery. You'll hear about what it means to grow up without a clear picture of your past, how to keep walking forward even when things don't make sense, and how empathy and awareness can change everything for someone still struggling to be seen.

Let's step out of the box! Today, I'm joined by the incredibly talented and deeply authentic Seán O'Grady. Seán's journey is one many of us can relate to—marked by challenges, including a past with drugs, and a search for identity and purpose. Seán's story is so powerful because he turned the lens on his own life and began to tell stories through photography and videography. Seán first picked up a camera back in high school while navigating his love for skateboarding, music, and the arts. Although he didn't feel confident enough to pursue those creative paths directly, the camera gave him a unique way to immerse himself in the culture, document it, and become a creative force within it. Whether he's capturing the energy of a live show, the artistry of a chef in the kitchen, or the spirit of a brand with a meaningful mission, Seán has found a way to be present, contribute, and inspire. He sees his camera as more than just a tool—it's a bridge between his passions and the world, a stage where he doesn't need to perform, but still gets to shine. Now, Seán uses his skills to tell engaging stories that spark social change and bring awareness to the causes and communities he cares about. As he puts it, "I'm blessed to be able to do what I love to do. Come with me on my journey and let me capture your reality.” Join me as I try on Seán shoes.

April Fools' Day: A Day of Tricks—But Don't Be Deceived. April Fools' Day has been around for centuries, but its origins are a little murky. Some say it started in 1582 when France switched from the Julian to the Gregorian calendar, moving the New Year from April 1st to January 1st. Those who didn't get the memo—or refused to accept the change—were mocked and tricked, earning the title of “April fools.” Others trace it back to ancient Roman festivals where deception and pranks were part of the celebration. Either way, it's a day built on fooling people, making them believe something that isn't true.Yesterday, I played along. On social media, I teased that Other People's Shoes was coming to an end and that the time had come for a change. It was just a joke, but for a moment, some believed it. And that got me thinking—how often do we believe the lies we're told?Because the truth is, deception isn't just for one day a year. It's happening all around us, every single day.Our Children Are Under AttackRight now, our young people are being fed lies—about their identity, their worth, their purpose. They're told they can define their own truth, that faith is outdated, that they don't belong. And many parents are left feeling helpless, believing another dangerous lie: there's nothing they can do.My guest, Debra McNinch, knows this battle all too well.For her, one phone call changed everything. She had raised her family in faith, yet one of her children took a path she never expected. Fear, shame, and heartbreak followed. She wondered where she went wrong, and questioned if she had failed as a mother. But then she learned the most powerful truth of all:God is not done writing their story.In Battle Cry, Debra shares how to:Develop a focused daily prayer plan to lay your prodigal at Jesus' feet.Let go of your imagined “fairy-tale” life and trust God with your reality.Overcome the shame of not raising perfect Christian children.Her motto is simple: NO ONE FIGHTS ALONE.This is a wake-up call. The enemy wants us to believe our prodigals are too far gone, that prayer doesn't work, that hope is lost. But that's just another trick.Who will rise up? Who will answer the call to stand in the gap, to battle in prayer, to intercede for our sons and daughters?Satan may think he's won, but the battle isn't over. God is still in control, and our prodigals are coming home.Buy Battle Cry click here today and pray your prodigal home. Join me as I walk in Debra's shoes.

Imagine this for a moment: it's Saturday afternoon. The week has been long, and you've finally carved out some time for yourself. You're in your favorite cozy spot in the living room—maybe it's the couch that perfectly hugs you or that recliner that's seen better days but feels just right. You've got the TV on, ready to catch up on your favorite show, and for a moment, everything feels perfect.

Loathing...The Duke vs. UNC rivalry is the sports equivalent of Loathing from Wicked—a relationship built on deep-seated animosity, unwavering contempt, and just a hint of begrudging respect. Much like Elphaba and Glinda's cutting yet strangely harmonious duet, the Tar Heels and Blue Devils are forever intertwined, each defining the other through decades of battles on the hardwood. Every season, the Cameron Crazies' sneers and the Dean Dome's roars echo the song's theatrical vitriol—"Every little trait, however small, makes my very flesh begin to crawl!"—a sentiment any UNC fan can relate to when spotting Duke's blue and white on the court. My guest today is Andy Bagwell. Andy Bagwell, co-author of Duke Sucks: A Completely Even-Handed, Unbiased Investigation into the Most Evil Team on Planet Earth, captured this dynamic perfectly, dissecting Duke's infamous flopping, smug superiority, and, of course, their uncanny ability to get every foul call.But in true Other People's Shoes fashion, what happens if we step back and examine this rivalry from another angle? The loathing, after all, is what makes it great—what fuels the passion, the unforgettable moments, the pure ecstasy of victory and the gut-wrenching agony of defeat. Without Duke, there is no UNC dominance; without UNC, there is no Duke villainy. Just as Elphaba and Glinda's friction drives Wicked's story forward, this rivalry elevates college basketball itself. It's a hatred that, deep down, every fan secretly loves. Because in the end, while loathing may be the foundation, the rivalry itself is pure magic. Join me as I step into Andy's shoes. 

Which would you rather indulge in, lemons or tamales? I feel like it's a pretty easy choice, right? Life has a way of throwing challenges at us when we least expect it. Sometimes, it feels like all we have are lemons—sour, bitter, and hard to swallow. But what if, instead of making lemonade, we made something heartier, something rich with culture, love, and perseverance—like tamales? In this episode, I sit down with Leslie Alvarez, a woman whose life is a testament to resilience, hustle, and the power of staying true to oneself. From a young age, Leslie learned the value of hard work and determination. Whether it was selling homemade oatmeal cookies to buy a bike or making tamales to support her family, she embraced the philosophy: “Where there is a will, there is always a way.” This mantra has carried her through some of life's toughest moments. Leslie's journey is one of incredible highs and devastating lows—financial struggles, relationship breakdowns, health crises, and career setbacks. She has faced them all, from early motherhood and divorce to job loss and a terrifying incident involving her son. Yet, through every storm, she chose to rise, using each hardship as fuel for growth and transformation. Leslie reminds us that while life may hand us lemons, we can turn them into something meaningful. Whether it's tamales, a new career, or a fresh perspective, there is always a way forward. Join me as I walk in Leslie's shoes.Key Takeaways from This Episode:The Power of Hustle: How a strong work ethic and creative problem-solving helped Leslie push through tough times.Overcoming Adversity: Facing challenges head-on, from financial struggles to personal losses, and emerging stronger.Authenticity as Strength: The importance of staying true to oneself in a world that often pressures us to wear masks.Finding Hope in Hardship: Why struggles can be a catalyst for transformation rather than a reason to give up.

In this episode of Other People's Shoes, we take an X-Ray look into the life and work of Mary Beth Schrudder, a transformational life coach with expertise in the Law of Attraction, relationship coaching, addiction recovery, and spiritual transformation.Mary Beth's journey has been anything but easy. After years in the corporate world, balancing life as a single mom while battling addictions to alcohol, food, and toxic relationships, she realized something had to change. Traditional 12-step recovery programs didn't work for her, so she set out on a path of self-discovery, researching alternative and spiritual recovery methods that truly transformed her life.Now, as a certified coach, she helps others break free from limiting beliefs and destructive cycles by applying the correct principles of the Law of Attraction—going beyond just “positive thinking” to become the deliberate creators of their own lives truly.In our conversation, Mary Beth shared:

In this heartfelt episode of Other People's Shoes, I sit down with my good friend Mike Oppenheim from the podcast Coffin Talk. Mike has become a true friend in this podcasting space, and today he shares a deeply personal journey about anger, grief, and missing his son. He opens up about the invisible weight he carries—how, on the outside, you might not see the pain etched into his heart, but it's always there, shaping his days. Mike's story is a raw, emotional exploration of love, loss, and the resilience it takes to move forward. Through our conversation, we unpack the layers of his grief, understanding how it intertwines with hope and the belief in eventual reunion. As part of this episode, I wrote a poem titled Tomorrow, inspired by Mike's experience. It captures the enduring love of a father for his son, the ache of absence, and the unwavering hope for a reunion. Join me as I try on Mike's shoes.TomorrowTomorrow, I'll think of you just like today,With echoes of laughter that never fade away.Your name is carved deep within my chest,A sacred place where my heart finds rest.Tomorrow, I'll stand by the door you once passed,Holding onto memories I pray will last.Not out of anger, not out of blame,But love unshaken, still burning the same.Tomorrow, I'll sit in the room made for you,Though you've never seen it, it's always felt true.Walls whispering stories we never got through,Pillow untouched, sheets still neat,But in my dreams, I hear your feet.Tomorrow, I'll feel the ache in my chest,Missing your voice, your smile, your jest.Yet hope's gentle whisper calls out to say,There will come our Reunion Day.Tomorrow, I'll trace the stars in the sky,Imagining you're under the same, close by.Though miles may stretch and time may roam,You've never left the heart you call home.Tomorrow, I'll believe in the thread unseen,Tied between hearts, strong and keen.No distance can break, no silence can sway,The love that grows stronger every day.Tomorrow, I'll wait with arms open wide,No shadow of anger, just warmth inside.For deep down I know, come what may,We'll find each other on that bright Reunion Day.Tomorrow, and every day until then,I'll carry you softly, again and again.Not with sorrow, not with dismay—But with the hope of our tomorrow, lighting the way.Tomorrow, and always, know this is true,No words could measure how much I love you.Takeaways from This Episode:Grief can be hidden beneath the surface; you never know the pain someone carries.The power of friendship and authentic conversations in healing.How hope can coexist with grief, offering a light in the darkest moments.Connect with Mike Oppenheim:Listen to Coffin Talk wherever you get your podcasts.If this episode touched your heart, please share it with someone who might need to hear Mike's story. Let's keep these conversations alive, making space for both grief and hope.

Romeo, Romeo! Wherefore Art Thou? - A playful nod to Shakespeare sets the stage for a conversation about love, heartbreak, and the pursuit of healthy relationships. What comes to mind when you think of Valentine's Day? With Valentine's Day on the horizon, we're diving into the hilariously relatable world of modern dating. In this Other People's Shoes episode, my guest Charity Sinclair joins me to share insights from her witty memoir, We're All Dating The Same Guy: Laughs, Lessons, and Love After Dating a Narcissist. 

Buffalos have a unique instinct when facing storms—they don't run away like other animals; instead, they charge directly into the storm. By doing this, they minimize their time in harsh conditions and emerge stronger on the other side. In life, we are constantly faced with challenges, and just like the buffalo, we have a choice: we can run from adversity and prolong our struggles, or we can face difficulties head-on, knowing that growth lies beyond the storm. Jill Ogle, a guest on Other People's Shoes, shares this powerful message of transformation, encouraging others to embrace life's storms rather than run from them. Like the buffalo running into the storm, you have the power to transform your current reality into one of harmony and success. We believe in the power of synchronicity and know that you have found us for a reason. When the student is ready, the teacher appears, and your time for transformation is now. Step into the storm with courage, embrace all that you are, and watch as you emerge stronger than ever. Join me I try on Jill's sandals.

Welcome to a very special episode of Other People's Shoes! Today, we're taking a moment to celebrate six incredible years of podcasting, over 300 episodes, and countless stories that have inspired, challenged, and encouraged us all. Thank you for walking alongside me on this journey—whether you've been here since day one or just laced up your shoes to join the adventure.Reflecting on the JourneyOver the last six years, Other People's Shoes has become more than just a podcast; it's become a community. This milestone wouldn't be possible without the support of so many amazing people:My family — To my wife, Elizabeth, and our family, thank you for your endless encouragement and love. You've been my rock and biggest cheerleader.Garrett — My all-in executive producer, your unwavering support and guidance have been invaluable. Thank you for keeping the wheels turning behind the scenes.Christine, my mother-in-law — Your love and encouragement have been a steady source of strength. Thank you for believing in me and the show.Eric Nevins — My podcast mentor, your wisdom and insights have shaped so much of what this podcast has become. I'm so grateful for your guidance.Sean McCoy, Adria Wilkins, and Jodi Howe — Incredible friends who have shared your support and encouragement at every step. Your kindness means the world to me. With hearts of gold, your birthday greetings and on going encouragement inspire me to keep going.Jessica Lewis, Ally Murphy, my voice gals,  Neil Getzlow, Rodney Olsen, James Early, Jennifer Sakata, Judi Meriam, Megan Newkirk, Kim Patton, and Alex from Podmatch — Your contributions, support, and friendship have made such a difference in this journey. Thank you for being part of the story.So many other friends — To everyone who stopped by to give a birthday greeting, your words remind me why I continue this journey.The Real Reason I Keep Moving ForwardThis podcast has always been about progress—slow and steady, just like the tortoise in the fable of the tortoise and the hare. The journey hasn't always been fast or easy, but it's been consistent and meaningful. Every story shared, every lesson learned, and every listener touched fuels my determination to keep going. It's not about the race; it's about the journey.A Big AnnouncementStay tuned until the end of the episode because we're closing out with an exciting surprise announcement! I promise you won't want to miss it.Join the CelebrationI'd love to hear from YOU! What's been your favorite episode or takeaway from the past six years? Feel free to share your thoughts, and let's celebrate together.Thank you for being part of this journey. Here's to the next chapter of Other People's Shoes! Let's keep walking together, one story at a time.

Imagine this for a moment: it's Saturday afternoon. The week has been long, and you've finally carved out some time for yourself. You're in your favorite cozy spot in the living room—maybe it's the couch that perfectly hugs you or that recliner that's seen better days but feels just right. You've got the TV on, ready to catch up on your favorite show, and for a moment, everything feels perfect.

What comes to mind when you hear the word "yoga"? To be candid, my first thought is yoga pants—and pain. Okay, maybe sweat and a little smelliness, too.

In this episode of Other People's Shoes, we sit down with LT. COL. Jason G. Pike is a veteran with over 31 years of military service. Continuing our X-Ray season's theme of seeing beyond the surface, Jason shares insights into the art and science of military camouflage—from blending into environments to outsmarting advanced sensors—and its role in survival and strategy. Jason also opens up about his personal journey, chronicled in his memoir, A Soldier Against All Odds. Despite being diagnosed with a learning disability and bone disease as a child, he defied expectations to achieve the rank of lieutenant colonel. His story of perseverance, determination, and resilience will inspire you to uncover your hidden strength and face challenges head-on. Join me as I try on Jason's shoes. 

Welcome to Season 19 of Other People's Shoes titled "X-Ray." 

What's the greatest Christmas gift you've ever received? For many, it might have been a pony or a horse—a dream for countless children. For our guest Kim Tschirret, founder of Hope Reins in Raleigh, horses were more than a gift; they were a lifeline. Growing up in a home marked by her father's alcoholism and a lack of unconditional love, Kim found solace and safety in her horse. While her father prioritized performance and horse shows, Kim longed for a deeper bond—a relationship that planted the seeds for Hope Reins. Today, Hope Reins is a ministry that "Inspires True Hope and Real Healing," offering a place where children and families can encounter Jesus, who meets them in their brokenness and brings restoration. For Kim, the journey of founding Hope Reins has brought her personal healing and a profound experience of God's love. This growing community of grace is making a tangible impact across the Triangle and beyond, providing a space where love, healing, and transformation come to life. Saddle up! Join me as we try on Kim's shoes.

What is your favorite Christmas Movie? One of my favorites has to be "It's A Wonderful Life". In *It's a Wonderful Life*, George Bailey discovers his worth and the profound impact of his life on others. Guided by an angel, he sees a world without his influence, realizing how deeply his choices matter. Similarly, *Homecoming*, the 18th season of *Other People's Shoes*, explores returning to places of safety and belonging, reminding us of the unseen value of our lives and connections. This idea resonates with John Graham and the Good Samaritan Home, a non-profit that has been offering ex-offenders housing and support since 2001. From one remodeled house to 17 homes in Dayton, Ohio, they've helped over 1,000 people rebuild their lives through faith and kindness. Just as George learns that brokenness can lead to redemption, the Good Samaritan Home shows that broken lives, like broken houses, can be restored. Join me as I walk in John Graham's boots.

Who do you need a hug from today? Take a moment and read that sentence again: *Who do you need a hug from today?* Now, think carefully—who was the first person that came to mind? Say their name out loud. Chances are, it's someone you hold close to your heart, someone who means the world to you. It's probably not someone you hold resentment or disdain toward, is it? Hugs, after all, symbolize connection, care, and a shared moment of vulnerability. My guest today is Jennifer Sakata, someone who understands the deep power of grace in everyday life. Jennifer invites you and me to step into a place she calls "the corner of real grace for real life." It's a neighborhood where forgiveness, belonging, empowerment, and faith aren't just concepts—they're alive and thriving.  Join me as we lace up Jennifer's shoes and walk alongside her story. Let's explore how grace can reshape our lives, relationships, and even the way we think about who we need a hug from today.

Imagine playing make-believe as a pirate, hunting for buried treasure armed only with a map and sheer determination. My guest today is Matthew Lesko—the energetic, colorful advocate you know, famous for his bold suits covered in question marks. Together, we uncover the hidden treasure of government resources—vast, untapped opportunities that most people don't even realize exist. Lesko shares his vision of a thriving community where people use these resources to start businesses, pay for education, cover medical expenses, and more. His passion and deep knowledge turn the intimidating maze of bureaucracy into an exciting adventure, inspiring us all to claim our share of the treasure and build stronger, empowered communities. Join me as I walk in Matthew's shoes.

What would your life look like if you could take control of your happiness and choose joy daily? My guest today, Dannie De Novo, has explored this question and shares her journey in her book, *Get in a Good Mood & Stay There.* After battling a deep spiritual depression and facing numerous setbacks, Dannie refused to let life happen to her. Instead, she developed a systematic approach to reclaim her mindset, overcome adversity, and design the fulfilling life she had always envisioned. This book is more than a guide; it's a personal tour through the exercises and insights that transformed her attitude and opened the door to lasting happiness. If happiness feels like a moving target, perhaps it's time to step into these shoes—are you ready? Join me as I walk in Dannie's shoes. 

Have you ever allowed yourself to dream? Picture this: a genie appears, offering you three wishes. But there are conditions—no asking for love, no bringing back the dead, and no wishing for more wishes. It makes you wonder. What three things would you choose if you had three chances to get something special into your life? Now and then, life gives us moments that feel like a wish fulfilled—an experience so surreal, it's like magic. For me, that moment came on November 11, 2023, at the North Carolina vs. Duke football game. The night was alive with 50,500 fans packed into Kenan Stadium in Chapel Hill. The stands were a sea of Carolina blue, buzzing with excitement as the Tar Heels and Blue Devils went head-to-head in one of the fiercest rivalries in college sports. The game had all the intensity of a dream: heart-stopping plays, tense moments, and nail-biting suspense. And just when it seemed like the Tar Heels' hopes might fade, Noah Burnette, today's guest, stepped up as time expired, lining up for a 42-yard field goal. The ball sailed just inside the right upright, tying the game at 36 and sending it into overtime. The stadium exploded. As the clock ticked down and North Carolina clinched the win, 47-45, it felt like I was living a storybook ending—one I'll never forget. The whole weekend was more than a game; it was a trip of a lifetime, an experience that will always be one of my "three wishes come true." Today, I get to relive it all through Noah's eyes. So join me as I walk in Noah's shoes, sharing this unforgettable moment that left an indelible mark on my heart.

When was the last time you remodeled a room? My guest today is Dr. Merry C. Linn PhD. Imagine you're remodeling a room in your house—a space where old paint, cluttered shelves, and outdated furniture no longer feel like "you." The process begins by stripping away layers, revealing what lies beneath them. Similarly, in life, finding our true selves isn't just about adding layers; it's about "unbecoming" what we believed we had to be to feel accepted and loved, and "rebecoming" who we truly are, as Dr. Merry C. Lin explores in her transformative book. Just as a room remodel requires intentional effort to create a space that reflects our true taste and purpose, rebecoming our essential, God-given selves requires peeling back the fear-driven habits and self-protection mechanisms that keep us from authentic joy and resilience. Understanding our motivations, identifying patterns rooted in fear, and building resilience parallels the careful choice of new paint, furniture, and décor that fit the life we want to live. It's a journey to re-create our inner spaces, find the courage to pursue dreams with integrity, and ultimately fulfill God's purpose for our lives. Join me as I try on Dr. Merry's shoes. What does this election season mean to you? On Tuesday, November 5, 2024, Americans across the nation will head to the polls amidst a backdrop that feels as fractured as ever. Tensions run high as pressing issues reveal deep divisions, shaping an election season that underscores a United States that feels, in many ways, like a house divided. Questions about our collective values, the nation's future, and the fundamental direction we're heading are high, and every vote is vital. My guest, Josh Lewis, joins me in unpacking the importance of voting this season and why making your voice heard matters more than ever. But perhaps the question on everyone's mind is, who is Josh voting for? Join me as I walk in Josh's shoes.

What does this election season mean to you? On Tuesday, November 5, 2024, Americans across the nation will head to the polls amidst a backdrop that feels as fractured as ever. Tensions run high as pressing issues reveal deep divisions, shaping an election season that underscores a United States that feels, in many ways, like a house divided. Questions about our collective values, the nation's future, and the fundamental direction we're heading are high, and every vote is vital. My guest, Josh Lewis, joins me in unpacking the importance of voting this season and why making your voice heard matters more than ever. But perhaps the question on everyone's mind is, who is Josh voting for? Join me as I walk in Josh's shoes.

When was the last time you were humbled? This week on the podcast, I'm thrilled to welcome Rick Romano, whose heart for serving others has taken him and his family to the Dominican Republic, where they are building sustainable communities in the northern region of El Cibao. Rick's mission, rooted in the teachings of Christ and inspired by Matthew 25:35-36, calls on us to love those in need. He's dedicated himself to this by providing struggling communities with clean water, food, healthcare, and job training. But his work goes beyond just meeting immediate needs—planting churches and empowering individuals through these practical solutions. Rick believes that building a home for someone less fortunate isn't an impossible task; it's an act of love that can transform lives, embodying the call to live beyond ourselves. Join me as I try on Rick's shoes. 

When was the last time you opened a box? What was inside? Marriage is like unpacking boxes in life—each box represents a different aspect of the journey, filled with experiences, challenges, and opportunities for growth. My guest today is Tammy Cox. Tammy is here to share with us why marriage can be difficult. However, it doesn't have to be. Just as we carefully unpack a box, revealing its contents piece by piece, in a healthy marriage, we uncover layers of ourselves, our emotions, and our needs. Some boxes hold joyous memories or shared accomplishments, while others contain challenges that must be handled with care. A strong marriage involves the willingness to open these boxes together, communicate openly about their contents, and support each other in sorting through them, whether they are filled with joy or hardship. Just like unpacking, it requires patience, teamwork, and commitment to keep things organized and moving forward. In doing so, couples build a deeper understanding and bond, creating a home where love and trust grow stronger with each box they unpack. Join me as I try on Tammy's shoes.

When was the last time you had to check the "other" box during a survey? Social Identity Theory, developed by Henri Tajfel in the 1970s, explains how people define themselves through group memberships like nationality or religion. This often leads to favoritism toward one's in-group and distancing from out-groups, fostering stereotypes and discrimination. When we "Other" people—seeing them as outsiders—we lose compassion and focus on differences instead of shared humanity, reinforcing division. This issue is both psychological and spiritual. God's people are called to bless and care for the marginalized, yet misuse of power often causes harm. My guest today is Jenai Auman. Jenai, work offers hope to those who feel "Othered" by the church, reminding them that God sees and loves the outcast, even when the church fails to. Join me as I walk in Jenai's shoes. 

Did you ever do this? I remember when my daughter, Adia, was younger, my wife and I would stand her up against a wall at GGma's house—my wife's grandmother—and measure her height. As we sold the house, I wondered what the new owners would think of those marks. My guest today is Mark Collins, and he reflects on how those marks, much like childhood height measurements, serve as symbols of growth. For many men, masculinity can feel like an elusive mark, always shifting just beyond reach, as though no matter how hard we try to stand tall, we're told we don't measure up. Society often defines what it means to be a man, but like the faded lines on the wall, our value isn't found in those measurements. Real growth happens in the unseen spaces, where true strength isn't about height, but depth of character.

Lauren Burns was only seven years old when her world was turned upside down—her father took her from home, leaving her feeling lost and uncertain. But it was her mother's unwavering faith that shone brightest during this dark time. Armed with a deep trust in God's plan and an unshakable love for her daughter, Lauren's mother embarked on a courageous mission to bring her home. With the help of some amazing men who stepped in at crucial moments, the rescue was nothing short of heroic. Through it all, Lauren watched her mother's faith in action, learning powerful lessons about trusting in God's timing, perseverance, and the strength that comes from leaning on faith in the hardest of times. Today, Lauren's story reflects not only the victory of a mother's love but also the profound influence her mother's faith had on shaping her own, as they both leaned on divine guidance to overcome the unimaginable. Join me as I walk in Lauren's shoes.

EPISODE 300...The journey of a singer-songwriter is often filled with challenges that go beyond the glamorous image portrayed by reality TV shows like *The Voice*, *American Idol*, and *America's Got Talent*. While these platforms promise fame and fortune, the reality is that they often don't deliver lasting success. True artistry and recognition take years of dedication, perseverance, and frequently, the road less traveled. My guest today, Wilkes, has navigated this complex world, finding his voice through mainstream avenues Wilkes was when in the Christian band "Disciple." Join me as I walk in his shoes and explore the highs and lows of his musical journey.

What does it mean to find yourself truly? For many, it's about coming home to who you are and finding peace in your own skin. This journey of self-discovery is invaluable, allowing you to live authentically and confidently, free from external pressures. A trusted confidant can be a key part of this process, whether it's a loyal dog, a cherished stuffed animal, or even a journal. These companions provide comfort and a safe space to explore your thoughts and emotions. Today's guest, Barbara Thompson, knows this journey well. As the founder of Self-Care Studios in Australia, she brings a unique perspective on coming home to oneself. With four years of experience in guiding others through this process, Barbara offers fresh insights into the deeply personal yet universally transformative path of self-acceptance. Join me as I try on a NEW pair of what?

PLEASE TAKE DISCRETION IN LISTENING TODAY, IF RAPE AND MURDER ARE IN YOUR BACKGROUND. What would happen if you were wrongly accused of something? Has that ever happened? My guest today is Jeff Deskovic was wrongfully imprisoned for 16 years, from the age of 17 to 32, for a rape and murder he did not commit. The injustice of losing his youth to a crime he never committed had a profound impact on his life. His wrongful conviction not only stripped him of his freedom during the critical years of his young adulthood but also left deep emotional scars. The time he spent behind bars shaped his worldview, altering the course of his life in ways that can never be fully repaired. Upon his release, Jeff faced the daunting challenge of rebuilding a life that had been unjustly stolen from him, grappling with the lingering effects of trauma, lost opportunities, and the struggle to find his place in a world that had moved on without him. Join me as I walk in Jeff's shoes

SEASON FINALE OF DEAR... When was the last time you attended a funeral or a celebration of life service? Over the years, I've found myself in those seats many times. I wish I could say it gets easier each time, but unfortunately, it doesn't. During these moments, I often reflect on what I could have or should have said. I know I'm not alone in feeling this way. At one of these services, the pastor shared words of encouragement that stayed with me, and I hope they resonate with you too: love the ones you're with, hug the ones you can, miss the ones you should, but sometimes, we ultimately have to let them go—not from our hearts, but from our grasp. As we wrap up this season of Other People's Shoes, we look forward to sharing more stories with you in the fall.

Think about marriage for a moment. Who is a could that you know that has been married the longest. Three days ago my wife Elizabeth and I just celebrated our 23rd wedding anniversary. My guest today is Kyle Jetsel. Kyle shares losing his wife of 30 years felt like the world stopped spinning for Kyle—a void that seemed impossible to fill. The silence in the house was deafening, the weight of her absence almost unbearable. Yet, in the depths of that pain, Kyle knew he had to find a way forward—not just for himself, but for their children and the legacy they had built together. He chose to find strength in the love they shared, letting that love fuel his days instead of his grief. Kyle began to focus on living a life that honored her memory, finding reasons to smile again, to breathe deeply, and to inspire others to cherish every moment with their loved ones. Through this journey, he realized that the best way to honor her was to live fully, love well, and leave a legacy that their children could carry forward—a legacy of resilience, kindness, and an unshakable belief in the power of love. Join me as I walk in Kyle's pearl white Lebron James signature shoes. 

What is something that you absolutely, can't stand? I tried once making a list. If you were to make a list where would grief fall in the rankings? My guest today is Chelsea Ohlemiller. She wrote this brand new book called "Now That She's Gone". Chelsea is here to share her story about grief. Grief is profoundly challenging to cope with because it encompasses a wide range of intense emotions, from deep sorrow and anger to confusion and guilt. This emotional turbulence often arises from the loss of a loved one, a significant life change, or an unfulfilled dream, leading to a sense of emptiness and helplessness. The process of grieving disrupts our daily lives, impacting our mental and physical health. To navigate through grief, it is essential to allow oneself to feel and express these emotions rather than suppressing them. Seeking support from friends, family, or professional counselors can provide comfort and understanding. Additionally, engaging in self-care practices, such as maintaining a routine, exercising, and finding creative outlets, can help in gradually rebuilding one's life and finding a new sense of normalcy. Recognizing that grief is a personal journey and giving oneself the grace and time to heal is crucial. Join me as we walk in Chelsea's shoes. 

Where were you on July 20, 1984? That was the day The movie "The NeverEnding Story" was released in the United States. My guest today is Nancy Bruscher. Nancy believes wholeheartedly in the fact that there is power in your story. The power of remembering and sharing your story lies in the profound connection it fosters between individuals and generations. Each person's life is a tapestry woven with experiences, lessons, and values that are uniquely theirs. These stories are not only a testament to their journey but also a beacon of wisdom and resilience for others. When we share our stories, we affirm our value and humanity, offering insights that can inspire, guide, and comfort us. Future generations, in particular, need to remember our family stories, for they are the custodians of our legacy. By preserving these narratives, they gain a deeper understanding of their roots, a sense of belonging, and the strength to navigate their own paths. In this way, our stories transcend time, becoming a vital thread in the fabric of our collective human experience. Join me as we walk in Nancy's sandals.

Do you love the story of Winnie the Pooh? My favorite part is the image of Winnie the Pooh and Christopher Robin walking with an umbrella is a powerful depiction of companionship and support. My guest today is Noah Asher. Noah talks about how as they stroll together, the umbrella shields them from the unpredictable elements, symbolizing the protective presence of friendship. Just as the umbrella guards them against the rain, having someone by our side can help us navigate the chaos of life. With its inherent ups and downs, this shared journey becomes more manageable when we have a trusted companion to lean on. The umbrella, much like a steadfast friend, provides comfort and reassurance, reminding us that we are never truly alone in facing life's storms. Join me as we walk in Noah's shoes.

When was the last time you heard the phrase "I know how you feel" My guest today is Cate Purvis. Cate is here to share how she found the strength to get through her miscarriages.  Miscarriage is a profoundly difficult experience for women to navigate alone due to the intense emotional, physical, and psychological toll it takes. The grief and sense of loss can be overwhelming, compounded by feelings of guilt, shame, or inadequacy, even though these feelings are unfounded. Physically, the body undergoes significant changes, and the recovery process can be painful and exhausting. The emotional turmoil can lead to depression, anxiety, and isolation, especially if societal stigmas or lack of understanding prevent open conversations about the loss. The support of loved ones, friends, and professionals is crucial in providing the emotional comfort, validation, and care needed to help women heal and process their grief. Join me as I walk in Cate's shoes.

Take a moment and think about your worst day. Perhaps it was the day you dumped coffee all over yourself right before you walked into work? Maybe it was the day your baby pooped all over your brand-new pants? Or maybe it was a very sad day when a loved one died? All these examples seem dire and even awful. Did your worst day involve your job? I believe one of the hardest jobs is law enforcement. My guest today is Jared Altic. Jared has dedicated his life's work to helping law enforcement. Being in law enforcement is fraught with dangers, making it one of the most dangerous professions. Officers regularly face life-threatening situations, from confronting armed suspects to navigating high-speed pursuits. The risk of physical harm is ever-present, whether during routine traffic stops, domestic disputes, or responding to active crime scenes. Additionally, law enforcement personnel are often targets of violence and may suffer from psychological stress due to the high-stakes nature of their work. The constant exposure to danger and traumatic events can lead to long-term mental health issues, such as PTSD. Despite rigorous training and protective measures, the unpredictable nature of their duties means that law enforcement officers must always remain vigilant, underscoring the significant risks they endure to ensure public safety. Join me as I walk in Jared's shoes. 

When is it okay to be angry at God? Is there ever a time you have found yourself in that spot? My guest today is Julie Sunne. You would like by Julie's name that never rains or Julie has never had a bad day. We all know that is completely preposterous. Recovering from five miscarriages and four live births involves a multifaceted approach addressing both emotional and physical well-being. Emotionally, it is essential to seek support from loved ones, therapists, or support groups to navigate the grief and complex emotions associated with loss. Engaging in activities that promote mental health, such as journaling, meditation, or creative pursuits, can also be beneficial. Physically, it is important to work with healthcare providers to ensure proper recovery and address any underlying medical conditions that may contribute to pregnancy loss. Regular check-ups, a balanced diet, exercise, and possibly fertility treatments or interventions might be part of the physical recovery process. Emphasizing self-care, setting realistic expectations, and allowing time for healing are crucial for regaining balance and moving forward. Join me as we delicately walk in Julie's shoes.

Who is the hardest person to believe and trust? My guest today is Tim Stearns. I am guessing his name isn't jumping out to you? Oh wait, wasn't he in that movie "My Blue Heaven" that great 1990 film? Fun fact he was. Sort of...Tim is here to read his letter to Bob his Step-Father that became so much more. Having an earthly father provides invaluable guidance, support, and love, serving as a foundational pillar in one's life. A father shapes a child's understanding of strength, compassion, and responsibility, helping to navigate the complexities of the world. Equally vital, however, is the relationship with our Heavenly Father. Knowing God and putting faith and trust in Jesus Christ is paramount, as He offers the ultimate salvation from sin. Jesus' sacrifice and teachings provide a path to eternal life, peace, and a profound sense of purpose. Embracing this divine relationship enriches our lives, offering hope and an unshakeable foundation that transcends earthly challenges. Join me as I walk in Tim's shoes. 

How do you create a safe space for young people in your life? My guest today is Keri Cooper, LCSW NBCCH. Keri specializes in Holistic Therapy for Teens and Adolescents. Most of us know this right? Teenagers today often struggle to find a safe space to express their thoughts and feelings, a challenge exacerbated by societal pressures, social media scrutiny, and academic stress. Without a supportive environment where they can openly share their emotions without fear of judgment or ridicule, many teens internalize their struggles, leading to increased anxiety, depression, and a sense of isolation. Are you creating a safe space for teenagers? Having a safe space is incredibly valuable as it allows teenagers to explore and understand their emotions, develop healthy coping mechanisms, and build resilience. This nurturing environment fosters open communication, encourages self-expression, and promotes mental well-being, ultimately helping teens navigate the complexities of adolescence with confidence and support. Join me as I walk in Keri's shoes.

What do you think about having a brother? The great value in having a brother lies in the unique and irreplaceable bond that offers a blend of companionship, support and shared history. My guest today is David Hollenbach. David shares, a brother often serves as a lifelong friend, confidant, and ally, providing a sense of security and belonging. This relationship is marked by mutual understanding and loyalty, cultivated through shared experiences and memories. A brother's presence means having someone who genuinely understands your background and can offer perspective and advice with empathy. In times of joy and hardship alike, a brother's support is steadfast, making the journey of life richer and more meaningful. However, what do you do if that brother is now gone? Brotherly love is a profound and enduring bond that enriches life with a sense of security, understanding, and companionship. Having a brother who loves and cares for you is invaluable; it means always having someone in your corner, ready to support you through life's challenges and celebrate your successes. This unique relationship is marked by a blend of camaraderie and loyalty, where shared memories and mutual respect foster a deep connection. A loving brother provides not only emotional support but also a sense of belonging and continuity, making life's journey more meaningful and joyful. Join me as we walk in David's shoes.