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Tawny and Lisa talk about all things sober summer. Going on vacation or to parties where there will be booze and maybe pressure to drink? They've got you covered. Staying home without plans? They've got you covered, too. They share tips, tools, and options to make the most of the sunny season.Music Minute features Sublime, Lana Del Ray, Dirty Head. Bananarama and Talking HeadsSign up for Tawny's Writing ClassesOrder The Sobriety Deck Listen to The Sobriety Deck Playlist by Hannah GardnerOrder Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the BoozeSubscribe to Tawny's newsletter "Beyond Liquid Courage"Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses)Purchase Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
Tawny and Lisa are both experiencing new challenges in their work due to the fascist administration. It's gotten much harder for Tawny to do her many jobs (working with a non-profit, academic public speaking, writing) under MAGA 2.0. Lisa shares some recent changes in the legal field and how she's choosing to be on the right side of history. They also discuss how this new list of “banned words” impacts science, research, and people in recovery.Music Minute features Missing Persons and The WhoOur episode on Nonprofits in CrisisRead These Words Are Disappearing in the New Trump Administration Check out Tawny's essay about Running an Indie Brand in a Venture Capital World Order The Sobriety Deck Listen to The Sobriety Deck Playlist by Hannah GardnerSign up for Tawny's Writing ClassesOrder Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the BoozeSubscribe to Tawny's newsletter "Beyond Liquid Courage"Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses)Purchase Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
Back by popular demand, Tawny and Lisa discuss the importance of finding Glimmers (smallthings in daily life that spark a little joy) during stressful times. They share some recent glimmersin their lives, how to be open to finding your own glimmers, and even how to be a glimmer forsomeone else.Music Minute features Maneskin and The Spice GirlsOrder The Sobriety DeckListen to The Sobriety Deck Playlist by Hannah GardnerSign up for Tawny's Writing ClassesOrder Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Withoutthe BoozeSubscribe to Tawny's newsletter "Beyond Liquid Courage"Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses)Purchase Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
Showing Up as an Activist While Prioritizing Sobriety and Mental Health What does it mean to “show up” as a sober person in this time of political unrest? Tawny and Lisa share how they stay politically engaged with firm boundaries. If you can join the resistance for protests and/or other activities, do it! But if it's more than you can put on your plate, that's all good. First things first, and take care of yourself. Tawny and Lisa talk through cards from The Sobriety Deck on this topic. Music Minute features Jane Fonda's audiobook and Taylor SwiftCheck out Rise and ResistCheck out IndivisibleSign up for Tawny's Writing ClassesOrder The Sobriety DeckListen to The Sobriety Deck Playlist by Hannah GardnerOrder Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the BoozeSubscribe to Tawny's newsletter https://tawnylara.substack.com/ "Beyond Liquid Courage"Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses)Purchase Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
We're all experiencing information overload, with truth and lies mixed across all kinds of media we consume. As a journalist, Tawny has guidance on how to make sure you're reading credible, real news. To keep ourselves mentally healthy, we need to consume news in a way that works for us. Look for objectivity and coverage that doesn't pick sides. Also, most importantly, engage in critical thinking. Music Minute features The Beatles, Green Day, 4 Non Blondes, and Fleetwood Mac Some satire on how to spot misinformation Check out 1440 News Check out The Bulwark Listen to The Daily from The New York Times Order The Sobriety Deck Listen to The Sobriety Deck Playlist by Hannah Gardner Order Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze Subscribe to Tawny's newsletter, "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses) Purchase Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
Lisa celebrated 21 years sober and Tawny is coming up on 10 years of sobriety and life in New York City. Neither of them say they'll never drink again – they still take it one day at a time. They also talk about keeping things fresh in long-term sobriety. Let yourself try new things just for yourself. As Tawny tells her students, “feel free to write badly!” That goes for other things you enjoy or want to try like painting or playing piano. Whatever it is, just have fun doing it. Music Minute features (being sad about Gwen Stefani and) No Doubt, Gin Blossoms, The Allman Brothers Band, and Talking Heads Order The Sobriety Deck Listen to The Sobriety Deck Playlist by Hannah Gardner Order Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze Subscribe to Tawny's newsletter "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses) Purchase Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
Tawny and Lisa get back to basics and the Serenity Prayer. Whether your Higher Power is God, the universe, or a stick of incense, this episode is for you. Even if the whole "Higher Power thing" is not for you, knowing what we can and cannot control is a key tool in staying sober. It's not acquiescing or giving up if what you need to do right now is take care of yourself physically and mentally, and no more than that. Rest is essential. Letting go of what you can't control helps tremendously. Music Minute features the Dropkick Murphys and the musical Rent Watch The Dropkick Murphys Made in the USA Order The Sobriety Deck Listen to The Sobriety Deck Playlist by Hannah Gardner Order Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze Subscribe to Tawny's newsletter "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses) Purchase Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
Tawny and Lisa get a primer on ibogaine treatment for addiction from Dr. Eduardo Ramirez Juấrez, who has extensive emergency medicine experience at Cancun's leading private hospitals and five years of specialized work with ibogaine treatment. They talk about what ibogaine is, how it is used for substance use disorder, the steps involved in treatment, and stigma. If you're curious enough, magical things can happen. But note that Tawny and Lisa do not have personal experience with ibogaine and this interview is not an endorsement – it's strictly informational. Music Minute features a discussion of soundtracks designed for ibogaine treatment and Manấ Check out Dr. Juấrez at Beond Read the recent Stanford University study Order The Sobriety Deck Listen to The Sobriety Deck Playlist by Hannah Gardner Order Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze Subscribe to Tawny's newsletter https://tawnylara.substack.com/ "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses) Purchase Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
We're all experiencing information overload, with truth and lies mixed across all kinds of media we consume. As a journalist, Tawny has guidance on how to make sure you're reading credible, real news. To keep ourselves mentally healthy, we need to consume news in a way that works for us. Look for objectivity and coverage that doesn't pick sides. Also, most importantly, engage in critical thinking. Music Minute features The Beatles, Green Day, 4 Non Blondes, and Fleetwood Mac Some satire on how to spot misinformation Check out 1440 News Check out The Bulwark Listen to The Daily from The New York Times Order The Sobriety Deck Listen to The Sobriety Deck Playlist by Hannah Gardner Order Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze Subscribe to Tawny's newsletter, "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses) Purchase Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
Lisa and Tawny acknowledge their transfer addictions, sometimes spending money as a coping strategy similar to how they drank. Cutting down on purchasing and consumption has been a trend for years, but is even bigger this year. No-Buy or Less-Buy is having a moment in 2025. Beyond saving money, it's also a way to support your recovery and core values. No Buy is not a punishment – it should feel empowering and even fun. Consider setting some goals for spending less and doing it with an accountability buddy. But don't put too much pressure on yourself! We also need to go gently in 2025. Music Minute features Trixie and Katya and I Like To Watch and NSYNC Order The Sobriety Deck Listen to The Sobriety Deck Playlist by Hannah Gardner Order Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze Sign up for "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses) Purchase Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
In our current political environment, it's more important than ever to lean on our sobriety toolkits. What are the core elements of staying sober? Asking for help when needed, knowing your triggers (including people, places, and things), making time for physical activity, taking it all one day at a time, leaning into community, and just breathing. Remember the opposite of triggers is glimmers, the things that bring us shots of joy. Also remember HALT –if you feel off, ask yourself if you're hungry, angry, lonely or tired. If so, acknowledge it and take action to fix it, when you can. Go gently and be kind to yourself! Music Minute features Christina Aguilera, Janet Jackson and Led Zeppelin Order The Sobriety Deck Listen to The Sobriety Deck Playlist by Hannah Gardner Order Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze Sign up for "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses) Purchase Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
Tawny and Lisa catch up on all they've been reading and watching in an attempt to stay distracted from the horrendous 24-hour news cycle. Allowing time to check out and get lost in stories is a critical element of their self-care and sobriety routines. It's important to stay informed, but you have to make space for moments of joyful distraction, too. Music Minute features The Substance soundtrack, Chappelle Roan, Doechii, and Beyonce. Read: All Fours You Don't Need a Budget The Mighty Red The Herd Watch: Severance The Substance Dexter Order The Sobriety Deck Listen to The Sobriety Deck Playlist by Hannah Gardner Order Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze Sign up for "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses) Purchase Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
Calling all Swifties! Tawny and Lisa talk to Julianne Griffin, the founder of Swift Steps, a sober community for Taylor Swift fans, with music as a vital part of recovery. The inclusive group supports Swifties facing challenges from substance use disorder to codependency, heartbreak, toxic familial relationships, gambling, and other compulsive disorders. There are meetings and journaling workbooks that blend Taylor's music with recovery-focused prompts. Swift Steps also holds monthly themed craft nights, milestone bracelet (instead of traditional coins) projects, and even virtual fitness classes designed to support both mental and physical health, all with an emphasis on T. Swift lyrics and intersectionality. Music Minute features Taylor Swift, of course! Check out Swift Steps Follow Swift Steps on Instagram Order The Sobriety Deck Listen to The Sobriety Deck Playlist by Hannah Gardner Order Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze Sign up for "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses) Purchase Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
Tawny and Lisa talk to Ellen Scanlon, the host of “How to Do the Pot,” a podcast about cannabis for women. This podcast was a huge resource to Tawny when she began implementing cannabis into her recovery program. She fangirled a bit while interviewing Ellen! They discuss what to consider when incorporating cannabis as a medical alternative to prescription drugs. They also talk about the difference between CBD and THC, cannabis for anxiety and endometriosis, and share research on the psychological and physical effects of cannabis. Music Minute features Beyonce and West Coast jazz Listen to How to Do the Pot podcast and get all the info Subscribe to Ellen's Substack Find Ellen on Instagram Order The Sobriety Deck by Hannah Gardner Listen to The Sobriety Deck Playlist by Hannah Gardner Order Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze Sign up for "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses) Purchase Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
The new administration is cutting off financial support for nonprofit organizations that support diverse communities, including the LGBTQA+ population, who struggle with higher rates of addiction than the general population. Banning the language of gender and equality has put people's lives and sobriety in danger. Tawny and Lisa discuss the need to support nonprofit organizations that serve at-risk populations. Consider donating, volunteering, speaking up, and even buying coffee for a cause! Music Minute features Tawny and Fred Schneider of the B-52s perform “Outer Space” Support nonprofits like Road Recovery, Big Vision NYC, Gay and Sober, and New Alternatives. Shop the Road Recovery Coffee Collection Make calls to your government representatives through 5Calls.org Read up: Trump Shuts Down White House Spanish Language Page and Social Media Journalist Gabrielle Kassel's Video on "Forbidden Words" LGBTQ+ Community and Addiction Order The Sobriety Deck Listen to The Sobriety Deck Playlist Order Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze Sign up for "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses) Purchase Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
Tawny and Lisa discuss a recent essay in The Guardian titled I tried ‘intermittent sobriety'. Here's what I learned jumping on and off the wagon by Arwa Mahdawi. They appreciate the author's candid approach to harm reduction for the sake of self-discovery. Intermittent sobriety is similar to sober curiosity in that they both encourage thoughtful consideration in reevaluating one's relationship with alcohol without going fully sober. These booze-breaks can be regular, planned periods of sobriety or spontaneous decisions. Changing rituals, “playing the tape forward,” and spicy food-induced dopamine (!) are all suggested ways to help. Music Minute features Audioslave, Counting Crows and The Who Read The Guardian article Order The Sobriety Deck Listen to The Sobriety Deck Playlist Order Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze Sign up for "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses) Purchase Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
Tawny and Lisa share how they feel about the new presidential administration. They're trying to balance the 24-hour news cycle, active resistance, and staying sober while continuing to find glimmers of joy. Feeling anger? Go for a run or hit a punching bag. Volunteer at a local organization or online. Exhausted? Nap. Play. Binge-watch your comfort show. As always, take care of yourself! Music Minute features Democracy in Retrograde (audiobook) and The Sobriety Deck Playlist. Read Tawny's Rage Resources Order The Sobriety Deck Listen to The Sobriety Deck Playlist by Hannah Gardner Order Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze Sign up for "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses) Purchase Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
Tawny and Lisa chat with best-selling author, Sari Botton. Sari's memoir, "And You May Find Yourself: Confessions of a Gen-X Weirdo," is about finding yourself later in life. They discuss Sari's recent newsletter about how bars and restaurants should embrace quality NA choices. Tawny and Sari also address the reality of pitches being rejected by traditional media outlets and why they bring those rejected stories to their newsletters. Sari publishes Sober Oldster, Oldster Magazine, Memoir Land, and Adventures in Journalism on Substack.Music Minute features Free to Be You and Me and Joni MitchellRead Too Many Bars and Restaurants Still Aren't Effectively Catering to a Growing Sober (and Soberish) Clientele Check out all things Sari on SubstackCheck out The Sober Oldster SeriesFollow Sari on Instagram Check out Sari's website Order The Sobriety Deck Listen to The Sobriety Deck Playlist by Hannah GardnerOrder Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze.Sign up for Tawny's newsletter, "Beyond Liquid Courage"Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses)Order Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
Tawny and Lisa talk about crying – why humans do it, how it works physically, and what it can mean emotionally. As we grow older, our patterns and triggers for crying evolve. Tawny is just learning to cry and Lisa is not much of a crier. They talk about situations when feel like they “should” cry, but it just doesn't happen. And Tawny talks about the relationship between sadness to anger and how to work with it. Music Minute features System of a Down, Rage Against the Machine, Limp Bizkit, Bob Marley, and Prince. Read the article, Why Humans Cry Order The Sobriety Deck Listen to The Sobriety Deck Playlist Order Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze Sign up for "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses) Purchase Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
Tawny and Lisa talk with Brian Cuban, a lawyer, writer and recovery advocate. He's the author of four books, both memoir and fiction. His latest is The Body Brokers, a crime thriller that digs deep into the opioid epidemic. Brian is a groundbreaker in discussing eating disorders among professional men. In fact, 35% of people who struggle with eating disorders are men. They also talk about the co-occurrence of eating disorders and other addictive behavior. Music Minute features Billy Joel. Check out Brian's advocacy work and writing here and here Order The Sobriety Deck Listen to The Sobriety Deck Playlist by Hannah Gardner Order Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze Sign up for "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses) Purchase Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
Tawny and Lisa talk with Lindsay Sutherland Boal, a coach, advocate, and the founder of both The Uncovery App and She Walks Canada, which support women overcoming problematic relationships with alcohol. They chat about gray-area drinking and the concept of “rock enough,” the acknowledgement that you don't need a “rock bottom” crisis to quit drinking. The Uncovery App is dedicated to the pursuit of alcohol-free living through self-investigation and support. She Walks Canada organizes walks around the world to support recovery and foster community.Music Minute features Lindsay's opera career and tropical lounge music. Check out The Uncovery App Learn about She Walks Canada On Instagram: @theuncoveryapp and @shewalkscanada Order The Sobriety Deck Listen to The Sobriety Deck Playlist by Hannah Gardner Order Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze. Sign up for Tawny's newsletter, "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses) Order Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
Tawny and Lisa talk about the evolution of Dry January, including some Do's and Don'ts. DO give yourself grace, journal about your experiences, find an accountability buddy and/or seek outside support, and stock your fridge for success with NA beverages. DON'T compare your relationship with alcohol to someone else's, don't expect to do Dry January “perfectly,” don't try to take on too many other personal goals at the same time, and don't overthink it. Music Minute features The Sobriety Deck Spotify playlist! Order The Sobriety Deck by Hannah Gardner Listen to The Sobriety Deck Playlist by Hannah Gardner Order Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze Sign up for "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses) Purchase Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
Tawny and Lisa talk about how the change of seasons, including Daylight Savings Time, effects them physically and emotionally. Seasonal Affective Disorder is real and they make space for it. But it also requires an acknowledgement that slowing down means giving themselves permission to be not as productive as usual. Music Minute features Hanson, Limp Bizkit, The Four Seasons and Garbage. Check out WINTERING: The Power of Rest and Retreat in Difficult Times Pre-order The Sobriety Deck Order Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze Sign up for "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses) Purchase Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
Tawny and Lisa celebrate 250 episodes with a light convo about what they're reading, watching, and listening to. Tawny's been going to live performances in NYC, including Julio Torres and LCD Soundsystem. She's following Taylor Lorenz's Substack and Hard Fork for tech news. Read The Winner, Queenie, and Whoever You Are Honey Listen to podcasts: La Culturistas, SmartLess, and Armchair Expert On TV: Ru Paul's Drag Race, Shrinking, Fanatical: The Catfishing of Tegan and Sara, and Only Murders in the Building Music: The Dare, Charlie XCX and Chappelle Roan Order The Sobriety Deck Order Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze Sign up for "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses) Purchase Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
Tawny and Lisa talk about boundaries with social media, taking breaks from it, and being mindful with it. Tawny is quiet-quitting social media and Lisa is spending five minutes a day on it. Addiction to social media is real thing. They talk about the dopamine effects of social media and how that has turned toxic with algorithms and disinformation. Also, consider taking a social media inventory – what are the pros and cons? What are the platforms you most enjoy? Choose those and engage in a way that makes you feel good. Music Minute features vinyl records and deep dive playlists. Order The Sobriety Deck Order Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze Sign up for "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses) Purchase Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
Tawny and Lisa talk about THE SOBRIETY DECK, out December 3! The deck is 50 cards, broken into five sections: Sobriety Tool Kit, Knowing Ourselves, Relationships, Showing Up, and Experiencing Joy. They dig into cards on Boundaries, Understanding Your Triggers, SoBerthday, and Give Yourself Grace. The deck is full of tips and tools based on the conversations on the podcast. It's a choose-your-own-adventure tool for support in any way you find helpful! Music Minute features Jeff Buckley and Road Recovery. Order The Sobriety Deck Order Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze Sign up for "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses) Purchase Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
Tawny and Lisa talk about the holiday season and how to get through it with your sanity and sobriety. Tawny shares talking points if you want to challenge family members who are aligning themselves with the *wrong* side of history. They also share tips for self-preservation if you opt out of political tension at the dinner table. Set the terms on which you're willing to engage and stick to them. Feel free to take a pass on family and friends to protect your recovery. As always, go gently with yourself. Music Minute features Bruce Springsteen, Lindsey Buckingham, Wham!, Mariah Carey, Madonna, and Hanson. Order The Sobriety Deck Order Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze Sign up for "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses) Purchase Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
Tawny and Lisa talk about the U.S. election and its devastating implications. They discuss what happened, what it means, and how we can organize around going forward. There's anger and fear, but also determination to be part of the fight for democracy. Most of all, to stay or get sober, take care of yourself however that means – exercise, rest, tuning out of social media, and diving deep into community. Music Minute features Rage Against the Machine, 4 Non Blondes, Limp Bizkit, and System of a Down.Check out She RecoversCheck out Sober Mom SquadCheck out The Luckiest Club Order The Sobriety Deck Order Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze. Sign up for Tawny's newsletter, "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses) Order Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
Tawny and Lisa talk about how they look back on their drinking days now. There's compassion for their old selves, gratitude for living a booze-free life, and an appreciation that in all the drama and mess, there are happy memories to look back on. Not to mention, that they wouldn't have the lives they have today without living through all the experiences they had before. Music Minute features Texas country music and Oasis. Read Tawny's Substack newletter, Reframing My Drinking Era Pre-order The Sobriety Deck Order Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze Sign up for "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses) Purchase Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
Tawny and Lisa talk about what having Tawny's book out in the world for a full year has brought. They catch up what's followed on from the book's publication, including THE SOBRIETY DECK. Things have changed, some for the good, with sober dating apps and sober mixers popping up. But some of the big sober dating challenges remain. Tawny also shares about reader reactions. Music Minute features the Stranger Things score and The Beatles. Buy Stick, Sexy, Sad Pre-order The Sobriety Deck Order Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze Sign up for "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses) Purchase Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
Tawny and Lisa talk with Satya Doyle Byock, LPC, about her book, QUARTERLIFE: The Search for Self in Early Adulthood. Satya is a practicing Jungian psychotherapist in Portland and the director of The Salome Institute of Jungian Studies, where she regularly teaches online seminars. They talk about the changes that happen in early adulthood, as well as how find a therapist despite all of the challenges, including insurance. Music Minute features Bill Evans, Maggie Rogers, and Beyonce Find all things Satya on her website. Buy QUARTERLIFE: The Search for Self in Early Adulthood Sign up for Satya's Substack newsletter and check out Why You Struggle to Find a Therapist Preorder The Sobriety Deck Order Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze Sign up for "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses) `Purchase Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
Tawny and Lisa talk with Hilary Sheinbaum about her new workbook, GOING DRY: A Practical Guide to Drinking Less and Living More. The workbook takes readers through all phases of a sober or sober-curious journey, ranging from assessing your relationship with drinking to setting realistic expectations to discovering new experiences that bring you joy without booze. Music Minute features Sabrina Carpenter, Taylor Swift, and Flow State on Substack Get GOING DRY: A Practical Guide to Drinking Less and Living More Get The Dry Challenge: How to Lose the Booze for Dry January, Sober October, and Any Other Alcohol-Free Month Check out Hilary's TED Talk, Dry Dating: Why and How Check out Hilary's GoingDry.co event series. Find Hilary on IG: @hilarywritesny and @goingdry.co More on socials: #goingdrybook Preorder The Sobriety Deck Order Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze. Sign up for Tawny's newsletter, "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses) Order Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
Tawny and Lisa talk about the specific challenges that addiction to the internet and phones bring. We need them for our work and personal lives. But they can also take over, causing problems and stress through compulsive scrolling, checking social media, and diving down rabbit holes. They talk about Internet and Technology Addicts Anonymous and the broad range of habits and behaviors it helps address. Music Minute features Blondie and Beyonce/Lady Gaga Check out Tawny's recent Substack article, Are you addicted to your phone? Read Filterworld: How Algorithms Flattened Culture Pre-order The Sobriety Deck Order Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze Subscribe to Tawny's newsletter, "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses) Purchase Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
Tawny and Lisa talk with Crystal Hill, President and CEO of Twin Cities Wellness Center and Recovery Gym, an intensive outpatient treatment program that includes a physical fitness component. They discuss the benefits of exercise in co-occurring disorder treatment, the importance of finding the right community, and Moral Reconation Therapy. Music Minute features Iggy Azalea and Liquid Stranger. Check out Twin Cities Wellness Center & Recovery Gym Preorder The Sobriety Deck Order Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze Subscribe to Tawny's newsletter, "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses) `Purchase Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
Tawny and Lisa chat with Betsy Frost, the CEO of Hoplark, a non-alcoholic beverage brand brewing hop teas and waters with layered flavors. They talk about the evolving NA drink scene and innovations. The drinks aren't just for sober folks, but for anyone focused on their health and wellness. The also talk about mentorship for women in business, fostering leadership and community. Music Minute features the Minnesota Orchestra and Nathaniel Rateliff. Use promo code RECOVERY for 35% your order of Hoplark Preorder The Sobriety Deck Order Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze. Subscribe to Tawny's newsletter, "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses) Order Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
Tawny and Lisa talk with Ted Mandell, Associate Teaching Professor at the University of Notre Dame's Department of Film, Television, and Theatre. Tawny has been a guest speaker for Ted's class, “Drunk on Film: The Psychology of Storytelling with Alcohol and its Effects on Alcohol Consumption.” They talk about the reasons kids drink more when they get to college, the persistence of the excessive drinking culture, and ways to reframe how students think about alcohol. Music Minute features a one-week course Ted taught with Rock n Roll Hall of Fame inductee Todd Rundgren. Check out the PBS Newshour feature about “Drunk on Film.” Check out the Drunk on Film website Preorder The Sobriety Deck Order Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze Sign up for "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses) Purchase Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
Tawny and Lisa talk about dry months and dry challenges. For folks considering getting sober, they're a great way to take an intentional look at your drinking. They share ideas to set yourself up for success: grab an accountability buddy, stock your fridge with yummy NA drinks, and journal to reflect. But most of all, be gentle with yourself! Music Minute features Monster Mash, Macy Gray, Pink, Natalie Merchant, and Taylor Swift. Check out author Hilary Sheinbaum's Going Dry and The Dry Challenge Check out Fcking Sober podcast Pre-order The Sobriety Deck Order Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze Sign up for "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses) Purchase Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
Tawny and Lisa catch up at the end of summer on all that's gone on and what they're up to. They talk about Tawny's honeymoon and the importance of taking a real break to recharge and reflect. Lisa talks about how if she was ever to believe Mercury Retrograde was a real thing, August would be the clincher. They also talk books, TV, and movies. Read The Hunter, The Safekeep, All Fours and Filter World: How Algorithms Flatten Culture. TV/Movies: Julio Torres in Problemista and Fantasmas, and Love Off the Grid. Music Minute features the Tom Petty Wildflowers channel and the Bulwark pod songs playlist. Preorder The Sobriety Deck. Order Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze Sign up for "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses) `Purchase Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
Tawny and Lisa chat about how finding hope in a period of stress and anxiety transforms their mental states. And acting on that hope reminds them that they do have power to try to change things. Since VP Kamala Harris became the Democratic Party's candidate for the presidency, they both feel like a weight has been lifted physically and their mental health has improved significantly. It's time to fight for our future! Music Minute features Charli XCX, Lil Jon, and Tupac. Find resources for registering, volunteering and more at Vote Save America. Volunteer to write letters with VoteForward. Check out Judd Legum's Popular Information Substack. Preorder The Sobriety Deck. Order Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze. Sign up for Tawny's newsletter, "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses) Order Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
Hey fam! We're on a summer break, but will be back soon. In the meantime, we hope you enjoy this encore episode!This episode is sponsored by the sober entrepreneurs at Sour Humanoid vinegar. Add a splash of these artisanal vinegars to your dinner to brighten up the flavor of your protein and veggies. Order a bottle today at sourhumanoid.com and follow them at @sourhumanoidTawny and Lisa talk with Laura Cathcart Robbins about her must-read new #quitlit memoir, “Stash, My Life in Hiding.” After concealing her addiction from everyone in her life, she sought recovery while facing divorce, the possibility of a grueling custody battle, and internalized racism. They talk about the power of trusting their intuition, the issues around divorce, and putting on a façade for the world. Laura also shares about “shide,” the painful mix of shame and Pride.Laura also is the host of the popular podcast, “The Only One In The Room,” and her recent articles in Huffpo and The Temper on the subjects of race, recovery, and divorce have garnered her worldwide acclaim.Music Minute features Amy Winehouse, Taylor Swift, Doja Cat, and The Weekend.You can find “Stash” hereLaura's podcast On FacebookOn IGOn TwitterPre-Order Tawny's book, Dry Humping: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the BoozePurchase Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
Hey fam! We're on a summer break, but will be back soon. In the meantime, we hope you enjoy this encore episode!Tawny and Lisa talk to (and fangirl!) Ann Dowsett Johnston, the bestselling author of DRINK: THE INTIMATE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN WOMEN AND ALCOHOL, the book that broke the story on the pinking of the alcohol market and the closing of the risky drinking gender gap. Now a psychotherapist, Ann also runs her popular memoir-writing course called Writing Your Recovery, open to women. They talk about the changes in the recovery community over the last 10 years and the power of writing our truth. To sign up for Ann's October workshop, click here or here. Music Minute features Van Morrison. This episode is sponsored by Soberlink's commitment to accountability for folks in recovery. Request an exclusive $50 off promo code by visiting: www.soberlink.com/recovery-rocks Pre-Order Tawny's book, Dry Humping: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze Subscribe to Tawny's sober dating advice column, "Beyond Liquid Courage" Click here to submit a question. Purchase Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
Hey fam! We're on a summer break, but will be back soon. In the meantime, we hope you enjoy this encore episode!Tawny and Lisa talk to Jolene Park, founder of Healthy Discoveries. Jolene is a functional nutritionist and a pioneer in the area of “gray area drinking,” the kind where there's no rock bottom, but where one drinks to manage anxiety and later regrets how often or how much they drink. They talk about Jolene's recent Substack piece on the online sober community and how it's changed over time, including the problems with over commercialization and misrepresentations. Music Minute features Dolly Parton, Miley Cyrus and Bon Jovi Find all things Jolene: Gray Area Drinking website Gray Area Drinking coach training for coaches Substack 30 day sober choice program Sober AF bundle Private coaching Instagram Check out the Burnout Workbook Order Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze Sign up for Tawny's newsletter, "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses) Order Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
Hey fam! We're on a summer break, but will be back soon. In the meantime, we hope you enjoy this encore episode!This episode is sponsored by the sober entrepreneurs at Sour Humanoid vinegar. Add a splash of these artisanal vinegars to your dinner to brighten up the flavor of your protein and veggies. Order a bottle today at sourhumanoid.com and follow them at @sourhumanoidTawny and Lisa interviewed actor, writer, and director Zach Braff! A Good Person, his latest film, is a gripping story of addiction, grief, and moving on. It stars Florence Pugh, Morgan Freeman, and Molly Shannon. The three of them discuss writing about addiction and grief, sober curiosity, how hobbies can help folks in recovery, and more.Music Minute features the role of music in Zach's work. (We recommend the iconic soundtrack to his 2004 movie, Garden State!) A Good Person Trailer Find A Good Person movie Pre-Order Tawny's book, Dry Humping: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the BoozePurchase Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
Tawny and Lisa talk with Melissa Urban, the co-founder and CEO of Whole30 and an authority on helping people create lifelong healthy habits. She is a seven-time New York Times best-selling author, and her books have sold millions of copies in 20 languages. She lives in Salt Lake City, Utah, with her husband, son, and a poodle named Henry. Melissa is also in long-term recovery and the author of one of Recovery Rocks' favorite books, The Book of Boundaries. Music Minute features experiences and hiking to Chet Baker and Taylor Swift. Buy The New Whole30. Find all things Whole30 Find all things Melissa here Follow Melissa on Instagram Order Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze Sign up for "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses) Purchase Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
Tawny and Lisa talk with Shirah Benarde, CEO and Co-Founder of NightCap, a line of multi-purpose drink spiking prevention products. When she was just 16-years old, the idea for NightCap came to Shirah in a dream after hearing about the horrors of drink spiking from friends who experienced it. By 2021, NightCap was featured on ABC's Shark Tank series, striking one of the fastest deals in the history of the show. Music Minute features jazz and The Police. Shop Nightcap here. Watch Shirah on Shark Tank Check out Shirah's In Your Dreams podcast Follow Shirah on Instagram Order Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze Sign up for "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses) `Purchase Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
Watch the special video convo here! Our card deck is available for pre-order! We're so excited! The deck comprises 50 cards, with a glossary and additional resources, that offers guidance and inspiration for anyone rethinking their relationship with alcohol.We've loaded it with practical tools and inspirational prompts to help you conquer the challenges and embrace the joys of a booze-free life. The deck contains countless tips and tricks for getting through early sobriety, finding your sober community, navigating triggering environments, dating, and making space to celebrate all the milestones you reach along your journey. You can use the deck in any way you like – pull a card as a daily practice, consult one before a night out with friends, respond to the prompts in your journal, or keep the deck handy for support on the go. Whether you're participating in Dry January or celebrating 20 years of being alcohol-free, this deck is a fun, nonjudgmental resource for living your absolute best sober life. Pre-order The Sobriety Deck Order Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze Sign up for "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses) Purchase Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
Tawny and Lisa talk with Anna Goldfarb a journalist, author and speaker. Called “The New York Times' friendship correspondent”, Anna's work explores the nuances of friendships, relationships, and pop psychology. They talk about making friends, keeping friends, and approaching friendship with empathy. Her new book, Modern Friendship: How to Nurture Our Most Valued Connections, is available everywhere. Music Minute features Bossa Nova, Queen, and the Rembrandts. Find the book and all things Anna here Sign up for Anna's Substack newsletter, Friendship Explained Follow Anna on Instagram Order Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze. Sign up for Tawny's newsletter, "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses) Order Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
Tawny and Lisa talk about how the 24/7 news cycle, algorithmically designed to spark extreme reactions, can make us feel overwhelmed and sometimes hopeless. They go back to their sobriety tool kits to not only keep them sober, but to reset their thinking. This includes remembering where they are in the moment, reminding themselves of what they can and can't control, connecting locally, doing service for others, and escaping into movies and books. Music Minute features System of a Down. Check out Kathleen Hanna and her work. Watch The Punk Singer. Order Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze Sign up for "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses) Sign up for Nonfiction Book Proposal 101 with Tawny here. Sign up for Tawny's Nonfiction Book Proposal Boot Camp here. Purchase Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
Tawny and Lisa talk about addiction as a family disease. Whether it's with your birth family or your chosen family (or both!), healing individually and as unit can break cycles of addiction and unhealthy behaviors. They both talk about their experiences with their families and how it's an imperfect journey that never really ends. Music Minute features Sister Sledge, Everclear, The Killers and Billie Eilish. Find support at Al-Anon and Co-Dependents Anonymous. Tawny recommends these books on boundaries and codependency: The Origins of You, Set Boundaries, Find Peace, The Book of Boundaries Order Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze Sign up for "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses) Sign up for Tawny's Nonfiction Book Proposal Boot Camp here. Purchase Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar
A recent article in The New York Times discussed two recent studies that cast doubt on whether large-scale mental health interventions are making young people better. But most specialists in adolescent mental health still agree that lack of access to treatment is the biggest problem young people face, along with the damage social media can do. Tawny and Lisa discuss all this with therapist Amanda White, LPC and author of Not Drinking Tonight: A Guide to Creating a Sober Life You Love. Music Minute features Taylor Swift. Check out Amanda's website, find her on Instagram and sign up for her Fence Sitter Substack. Order Tawny's book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze Sign up for "Beyond Liquid Courage" Order Tawny's new NA drink, (parentheses) Sign up for Tawny's Nonfiction Book Proposal Boot Camp here. Purchase Lisa's memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar