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This week, the fallout continues as OpenAI scrambles to rework its deal with the Pentagon, while government agencies adapt to life without Claude. Then we break down the grim new reality of prediction market bets on the U.S.-Israel led war with Iran. Finally, it's time for another edition of The Hard Fork Review of Slop. This time we're joined by Arijeta Lajka, a New York Times reporter, to discuss her recent article about the short form A.I.-generated slop YouTube is feeding to young children.Guest: Arijeta Lajka, New York Times video journalist Additional Reading: The Pentagon Officially Notifies Anthropic That It Is a ‘Supply Chain Risk' OpenAI Amends A.I. Deal With the Pentagon  How Talks Between Anthropic and the Defense Dept. Fell Apart  How Anonymous Bettors Cashed In on the Iran Strike, Just Hours Before It Happened Israeli Army Reservists Are Suspected of Using Inside Knowledge to Bet How A.I.-Generated Videos Are Distorting Your Child's YouTube Feed   We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Mark Karpelès is the former CEO of Mt. Gox, the defunct Bitcoin exchange. Recently, he requested the Bitcoin community to hard fork the chain in order to recover 79956 BTC that was stolen from his exchange. In this episode, he explains all about it. Time stamps: 00:01:19 Introducing Mark Karpelès & His Recent Activities 00:03:29 Mark's Entry into Bitcoin & Move to Japan 00:06:01 Acquiring Mt. Gox from Jed McCaleb in early 2011 00:08:00 Early Challenges & First Mt. Gox Hack 00:10:20 Handling the Loss & Transparency 00:13:16 Regrets & Lessons from Early Mt. Gox 00:15:09 Mt. Gox's Rapid Growth & Regulatory Pressure 00:17:15 Rumors: Satoshi & Silk Road Allegations 00:21:16 Security, Hacking Attempts, and Physical Breach 00:24:07 Mt. Gox Bankruptcy, Recovery, and Alexander Vinnik 00:27:00 Technical Details of the Mt. Gox Hack 00:29:05 Evolution of Bitcoin Security 00:35:14 Why Mt. Gox Dominated the Market 00:44:53 Legal Compliance in Japan vs. US 00:48:12 Mt. Gox, Talking to Satoshi, and Early Bitcoin Development 00:51:35 Speculation on Satoshi & Bitcoin's Future 00:55:30 Mark's Current Projects: Solana & Meme Coin (Chief Pussy) 00:59:03 Why Mark Isn't Focused on Bitcoin Anymore 01:00:28 Bitcoin Innovation, Scaling, and Forks 01:14:00 Sidechains and Drivechains Discussion 01:36:10 Mt. Gox as a Cautionary Tale & Exchange Security 01:42:14 Mark's Life After Mt. Gox & Prison 01:44:58 The 80,000 Bitcoin Hard Fork Proposal 01:51:11 Community Reaction To Hard Fork & Precedent Concerns 01:55:09 Bitcoin Forks & Legal Recovery 02:15:25 Bitcoin Foundation & Developer Funding 02:25:05 Mark's Current Ventures: VPN (vp.net) & Solana Tools 02:27:02 Bitcoin's Future in 15-17 Years & Final Thoughts

Cameron Robertson first discovered Bitcoin in 2009, after reading a post on hacker website Slashdot. About a year later, he started mining and mingling with other Bitcoin enthusiasts in the Silicon Valley area. More recently, he created a product named the Burner: an affordable, NFC-based card that enables anyone to gift, save, and spend their BTC within a simple browser-based and mobile-optimized interface. In this episode, we talk about the past, present and future of the Bitcoin project: including topics such as mining, open source development culture, and the quantum threat. Get 25% discount on your Burner card purchase with promo code ”BTCTKVR”: https://www.burner.pro/bitcoin Time stamps: 00:01:15 Introducing Cameron Robertson 00:02:45 Cameron's Bitcoin Origin Story 00:03:40 Early GPU Mining & Startup Life 00:04:46 Meeting with Brian Armstrong of Coinbase & Smart Locks 00:06:10 Evolution of the Crypto Ecosystem 00:07:20 Building Self-Custody Tools 00:08:30 Kong Cash: Physical Crypto Notes 00:10:25 Community Reactions to Physical Crypto 00:11:17 NFTs, Halos, and Physical Authentication 00:12:30 Offline Cash: Improved Bitcoin Notes 00:13:30 Denominations, Sats, and Psychological Value 00:15:30 Challenges of Issuing Physical Bitcoin 00:16:22 From Cash Notes to Burner Card 00:17:30 Web-Based Wallets & App Store Challenges 00:18:48 Bitcoin Banknotes & Physical Representations 00:21:01 Casascius, Legal Precedents & Coinage Laws 00:24:28 Mining, Spending, and Store of Value 00:28:22 Early Bitcoin Community & Mining Stories 00:30:02 Bitcoin as Money vs. Store of Value 00:32:07 Unit of Account Challenges 00:37:31 Development Culture: Then vs. Now 00:39:03 Silicon Valley, Meetups, and Early Builders 00:40:58 Money Changes Everything: 2013–2017 00:46:57 Bear Markets, Building, and Lightning 00:50:23 Future Risks: Mining, Quantum, and Hard Forks 00:54:44 Quantum Resistance: Migration and Hardware 00:56:52 Quantum Attacks: Practical Risks and Mitigations 01:03:20 Consensus, Upgrades, and Developer Culture 01:05:41 Ethereum vs. Bitcoin: Governance and Upgrades 01:14:57 Stablecoins, Sidechains, and Payments 01:18:03 Burner Card Demo & Security Model 01:22:36 Technical Details: Secure Element & Open APIs 01:25:49 Third-Party Wallets & Business Model 01:29:31 Supported Coins & Expansion Plans 01:32:44 Naming & Philosophy Behind Burner 01:34:38 Cameron's Non-Shitcoin Picks & Privacy Coins 01:40:08 Privacy vs. Scaling: ZK Tech & Future Hopes 01:44:31 ZK Apps & Privacy Onramps 01:47:24 16-Year Outlook: Bitcoin & Crypto's Future 01:53:29 No Price Predictions, Just Tech 01:53:37 Promo Code BTCTKVR & Closing Thoughts

In this week's roundup of the latest news in online speech, content moderation and internet regulation, Ben is joined by Casey Newton, founder and editor of Platformer and co-host of Hard Fork, a podcast that makes sense of the rapidly changing world of tech. Together, they discuss:After a deadly raid, an AI power struggle erupts at the Pentagon (Washington Post)Following: Anthropic vs. The Pentagon (Platformer)Anthropic Drops Flagship Safety Pledge (TIME)Hackers Expose Age-Verification Software Powering Surveillance Web (The Rage)Discord is delaying its global age verification rollout (The Verge)Reddit fined £14m by UK data watchdog over age verification checks (BBC News)How to evaluate Trust & Safety vendors (Everything in Moderation*)Regulate platforms, not children – Commissioner urges caution over social media bans (Commissioner for Human Rights)MPs reject total ban, want data housed locally (The Star)Exclusive: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere (Reuters)Play along with Ctrl-Alt-Speech's 2026 Bingo Card and get in touch if you win! Ctrl-Alt-Speech is a weekly podcast from Techdirt and Everything in Moderation. Send us your feedback at podcast@ctrlaltspeech.com and sponsorship enquiries to sponsorship@ctrlaltspeech.com. Thanks for listening.

Neste episódio falamos sobre os principais temas de segurança digital e privacidade das últimas semanas, abordando assuntos que você precisa conhecer para entender o cenário atual da proteção de dados, segurança infantil online e inteligência artificial. Você vai descobrir como o Roblox e o Discord lidam com a verificação de idade e proteção de crianças na internet, incluindo os riscos de predadores digitais, mecanismos psicológicos de retenção e a ausência de controles parentais eficazes. Também abordamos o polêmico caso do Grok no X (antigo Twitter) gerando imagens de nudez de mulheres e menores de idade sem guardrails, e as medidas tomadas pela ANPD, Ministério Público Federal e Senacon contra a plataforma. Discutimos o acordo de adequação mútua entre Brasil e União Europeia em proteção de dados pessoais e o que isso representa para transferências internacionais de dados e oportunidades comerciais. Ainda comentamos a solicitação do FBI à Microsoft pelas chaves de criptografia BitLocker, a ação judicial contra a Meta por suposto acesso às mensagens criptografadas do WhatsApp, o fenômeno das personas digitais criadas por IA, como a “Aboriginal Steve Irwin”, e os deepfakes com celebridades. Por fim, apresentamos a WhisperSafe, novo patrocinador do podcast, um software de transcrição local com privacidade em foco, usando modelos Whisper da OpenAI sem envio de dados para a nuvem. Assine o podcast para não perder nenhum episódio, deixe sua avaliação nas plataformas e siga o Segurança Legal no Instagram, Mastodon, Blue Sky, YouTube e TikTok. Apoie o projeto independente em apoia.se/segurancalegal. Esta descrição foi realizada a partir do áudio do podcast com o uso de IA, com revisão humana. Acesse WhisperSafe – Transcreva áudio e grave reuniões direto no seu computador, mesmo offline. Rápido, leve e pronto para usar com qualquer IA. Use o cupom SEGLEG50 para 50% de desconto na sua assinatura. ShowNotes Grupo 1 – Roblox, crianças e proteção digital em plataformas de jogos ‘Estou sendo atacado por crianças’, diz Felca após ser alvo de protesto no Roblox Opinião: feito para viciar, Roblox tem lógica de cassino e vira caça-níquel para crianças Palcos no Discord serão bloqueados para adolescentes e restritos para grupos da mesma idade Hackers expose age-verification software powering surveillance web ‘O que adolescentes fizeram com cão Orelha acontece todas as noites em muitas casas do Brasil, ao vivo no Discord’, alerta juíza Vanessa Cavalieri Internal chats show how social media companies discussed teen engagement Como vão funcionar as novas regras do Discord para verificar idade no app? Grupo 2 – Grok, conteúdo sexual gerado por IA e responsabilização do X/Musk ANPD, MPF e Senacon recomendam que X impeça geração e circulação de conteúdos sexualizados indevidos por meio do Grok ANPD, MPF e Senacon determinam que X implemente de forma imediata medidas para corrigir falhas no Grok Masterful gambit: Musk attempts to monetize Grok’s wave of sexual abuse imagery Joint statement on AI-generated imagery and the protection of privacy Grupo 3 – Adequação mútua Brasil-UE em proteção de dados e multas na UE Brasil e União Europeia reconhecem adequação mútua em matéria de proteção de dados pessoais Violation de données : sanction de 5 millions d'euros à l'encontre de FRANCE TRAVAIL Violation de données : sanction de 42 millions d'euros à l'encontre des sociétés FREE MOBILE et FREE Más sanciones y de mayor importe: La AEPD sube el nivel de multas en 2025 Grupo 4 – Vigilância, privacidade e Estado The Department of Homeland Security is demanding that Google turn over information about random critics Microsoft is giving the FBI BitLocker keys US authorities reportedly investigate claims that Meta can read encrypted WhatsApp messages Grupo 5 – IA generativa e identidade ‘It’s AI blackface’: social media account hailed as the Aboriginal Steve Irwin is an AI character created in New Zealan Imagem do Episódio – Children’s Games (Bruegel)  Transcrição do Episódio (00:00:08.000 –> 00:00:17.500) Bem-vindos e bem-vindas ao Café Segurança Legal, episódio 411, gravado em 24 de fevereiro de 2026. (00:00:17.500 –> 00:00:22.920) Eu sou Guilherme Goulart e junto com o Vinícius Serafim vamos trazer para vocês algumas notícias das últimas semanas. (00:00:22.920 –> 00:00:24.440) E aí, Vinícius, tudo bem? (00:00:24.440 –> 00:00:27.940) Olá, Guilherme, tudo bem? (00:00:24.440 –> 00:00:27.940) Olá aos nossos ouvintes. (00:00:28.180 –> 00:00:30.600) Você estava com saudade de gravar ou não? (00:00:30.600 –> 00:00:39.160) Cara, eu já estava até duvidando da minha capacidade de gravar de novo, porque a gente passou quase.. (00:00:30.600 –> 00:00:39.160) Vai fechar dois.. (00:00:39.160 –> 00:00:40.820) Um mês e pouco. (00:00:40.820 –> 00:00:45.280) O último foi ali em janeiro, não foi? (00:00:45.280 –> 00:00:46.720) Foi em janeiro que a gente gravou. (00:00:46.720 –> 00:00:51.000) Agora você me pegou, você me pegou no contrapé. (00:00:51.000 –> 00:00:57.820) Mas nós gravamos o episódio 410 da Retrospectiva, que se você não ouviu, está lá no dia 6 de janeiro. (00:00:58.180 –> 00:01:02.100) De 2026. (00:00:58.180 –> 00:01:02.100) Retrospectiva 2025. (00:01:03.780 –> 00:01:07.380) Bem, então, esse é o nosso momento de conversarmos sobre algumas notícias. (00:01:07.380 –> 00:01:10.240) Pegue o seu café e venha conosco para entrar em contato. (00:01:10.240 –> 00:01:18.760) Vocês já sabem, é lá no podcast.roba.segurançalegal.com, no Mastodon, no Instagram, no Blue Sky, no YouTube e no TikTok também. (00:01:18.760 –> 00:01:24.520) Você pode ver que tanto no TikTok quanto no YouTube você consegue ver também uns shorts lá que aparecem no Instagram também. (00:01:24.900 –> 00:01:30.420) A nossa campanha de financiamento coletivo, vocês já sabem, lá no apoia.se barra segurança legal. (00:01:30.420 –> 00:01:36.940) A gente sempre pede que você considere colaborar com esse projeto independente de proteção de conteúdo. (00:01:36.940 –> 00:01:41.960) E, Vinícius, temos uma novidade que é um novo patrocinador aqui no Segurança Legal. (00:01:42.500 –> 00:01:43.520) É isso aí, Guilherme. (00:01:43.520 –> 00:01:54.360) Tem a WhisperSafe, na verdade, o produto da WhisperSafe de uma startup que nós conhecemos, inclusive o dono da startup. (00:01:54.360 –> 00:02:04.360) É um software para transcrição de voz com um valor bastante acessível comparado com outros que tem no mercado. (00:02:05.420 –> 00:02:08.640) Ele faz transcrição tanto.. (00:02:08.640 –> 00:02:13.760) Eu tenho usado muito para fazer, para mandar comandos para IA. (00:02:13.760 –> 00:02:17.060) Eu fazia prompt tudo estruturadinho, digitando e tal. (00:02:17.060 –> 00:02:26.200) Agora, para programar, para criar scripts, criar alguns programas, para fazer alguns testes, eu tenho utilizado essencialmente ele para digitar. (00:02:26.200 –> 00:02:34.080) E tem uma funcionalidade muito interessante, que é a gravação e transcrição de reuniões, que eu também tenho utilizado. (00:02:35.220 –> 00:02:40.820) Independente do software que você utiliza, você abre ele, clica gravar a reunião, ele vai gravar todo o áudio da reunião. (00:02:40.820 –> 00:02:48.280) E depois que ele grava e você aperta lá o botãozinho para transcrever, ele te dá uma.. (00:02:48.280 –> 00:02:53.000) Ele tanto gera um arquivo com a transcrição bruta, se tu quiser usar com alguma IA, (00:02:53.000 –> 00:03:04.160) Como ele já deixa na área de transferência a tua transcrição com um prompt montado para te colar na IA que tu quer utilizar para fazer um resumo da tua reunião. (00:03:04.160 –> 00:03:07.500) Então, termina a reunião, cola na IA e pimba. (00:03:07.500 –> 00:03:16.880) O valor dele é um valor bastante acessível e, para os ouvintes do Segurança Legal, nós temos 20 cupons. (00:03:17.840 –> 00:03:28.700) O cupom é SEGLEG50, ele dá 50% de desconto vitalício, digamos assim. (00:03:28.700 –> 00:03:35.360) Você faz a assinatura, aplica o desconto, se fizer mensal ele vai aplicar a todos os pagamentos mensais (00:03:35.360 –> 00:03:40.080) E, se for anual, ele vai aplicar a todos os pagamentos anuais. (00:03:40.080 –> 00:03:44.540) Então, não é um desconto que vale só no primeiro ano ou só no primeiro pagamento. (00:03:44.540 –> 00:03:48.460) SEGLEG50 para os ouvintes do Segurança Legal. (00:03:49.080 –> 00:03:55.520) São 20 cupons, são 20 cupons que a gente tem aí, pelo menos para este episódio. (00:03:55.520 –> 00:04:01.320) E o mais importante, Vinícius, ele é um aplicativo que é construído com privacidade em foco. (00:04:01.320 –> 00:04:06.820) Ou seja, se você, os dados e toda a parte de transcrição, ela fica só na sua máquina, (00:04:06.820 –> 00:04:11.020) Não vai para a nuvem, a não ser que você queira depois usar isso no MyA e tal, (00:04:11.020 –> 00:04:14.580) Mas, assim, para assuntos mais críticos. (00:04:14.580 –> 00:04:18.560) Se você quiser ter lá para fazer uma ata depois, isso fica só na sua máquina. (00:04:18.560 –> 00:04:24.280) Ele faz, ele usa os modelos da Whisper, isso está lá na interface, está muito claro. (00:04:24.280 –> 00:04:31.040) Ele usa os modelos da, os modelos Whisper da OpenAI, que são modelos que rodam local na máquina. (00:04:31.040 –> 00:04:35.460) E o interessante é que tu não precisa nem ter uma placa de vídeo, não precisa ter GPU nem nada, (00:04:35.460 –> 00:04:39.280) Ele funciona muito bem, eu testei no meu notebook, não tem placa de vídeo dedicada. (00:04:40.700 –> 00:04:45.580) E funcionou muito bem, assim, ele é bastante rápido. (00:04:45.580 –> 00:04:52.320) E eu tenho feito os testes até para ver a questão de velocidade, já que tem os modelos disponíveis lá. (00:04:52.320 –> 00:04:55.000) Eu estava usando sempre o Turbo, assim, vou usar o melhor. (00:04:55.000 –> 00:05:00.500) Aí eu resolvi começar a usar o Medium e o Small lá dos modelos. (00:05:00.500 –> 00:05:04.580) E, cara, o Small, ele dá umas erradas, assim, sabe? (00:05:04.580 –> 00:05:06.260) Mas o Medium funciona muito bem. (00:05:06.260 –> 00:05:08.060) Tá bom. (00:05:08.840 –> 00:05:15.480) Então, basta você acessar o whispersafe.ai.ai, você vai ver lá todos os valores. (00:05:15.480 –> 00:05:19.920) Na hora do pagamento, pode usar o cupom SEGLEG50 e vamos lá. (00:05:19.920 –> 00:05:24.080) Bem-vindos, então, ao novo patrocinador do podcast Segurança Legal. (00:05:24.080 –> 00:05:30.480) Vamos para os temas, então, Vinícius, desses últimos dois meses, dá para se dizer aí. (00:05:30.480 –> 00:05:32.680) Hoje já estamos aí no dia 24 de fevereiro. (00:05:32.680 –> 00:05:44.260) Bastante coisa acontecendo, mas nós vamos, em vez de comentar propriamente as notícias, claro que nós vamos citá-las aqui, mas nós dividimos em alguns grupos. (00:05:44.340 –> 00:05:49.420) De temas que nos chamaram a atenção e que também foram temas importantes aí nas últimas semanas. (00:05:49.420 –> 00:05:53.860) O primeiro deles diz respeito à questão da proteção da criança na internet. (00:05:53.860 –> 00:05:56.400) Proteção digital, sobretudo em plataformas. (00:05:56.400 –> 00:06:00.200) Você que nos acompanha aqui sabe que a questão da proteção de criança é importante. (00:06:00.200 –> 00:06:04.860) A gente tem diversos, para esse podcast, a gente tem diversos episódios gravados sobre isso. (00:06:05.100 –> 00:06:11.420) Chegamos a comentar, inclusive, um episódio mais recente também sobre o ECA Digital, Vinícius, se você puder ver o número aí para nós. (00:06:11.420 –> 00:06:24.280) E, basicamente, o que nós estamos vendo mais recentemente é toda uma questão sobre como tornar essas plataformas, os problemas envolvendo plataformas utilizadas por crianças. (00:06:24.280 –> 00:06:33.320) E cada vez mais as crianças têm usado, seja o discórdio, mas aqui o foco dessas notícias é o Roblox. (00:06:33.320 –> 00:06:38.740) Então, se você tem filho, provavelmente já ouviu falar sobre Roblox, que é um jogo. (00:06:38.740 –> 00:06:44.020) Dá para dizer que é um jogo, mas que simula quase como um ambiente, assim. (00:06:38.740 –> 00:06:44.020) Virtual. (00:06:44.020 –> 00:06:47.600) Eu cheguei a jogar ele logo que ele apareceu. (00:06:47.600 –> 00:06:52.020) Assim, não tão logo, mas os colegas do meu filho começaram a jogar. (00:06:52.020 –> 00:06:54.900) Ai, meu filho veio com essa história do Roblox. (00:06:54.900 –> 00:06:57.140) E aí, disse, não, beleza, vamos ver. (00:06:57.140 –> 00:06:58.860) Aí eu entrei com ele. (00:06:59.320 –> 00:07:02.180) Cara, é um ambiente, é um ambiente virtual. (00:07:02.180 –> 00:07:08.400) Para mim, me lembrou muito aquele Second Life, tá ligado? (00:07:08.400 –> 00:07:09.320) Sim, Second Life. (00:07:09.320 –> 00:07:11.100) Me lembrou muito aquilo, então. (00:07:11.100 –> 00:07:15.880) E aí, dentro, tu tem espaços. (00:07:15.880 –> 00:07:19.980) Que tu acessa aplicações, jogos e tudo mais. (00:07:19.980 –> 00:07:22.560) Tu pode criar, inclusive, e tal. (00:07:22.700 –> 00:07:26.080) E aí, ele tem uma moeda interna no jogo, tá? (00:07:26.080 –> 00:07:28.080) Ele tem grana envolvida. (00:07:28.080 –> 00:07:36.080) E, cara, em cinco minutos de Fussaclo ali, eu larguei para o meu filho, ó, tem jogos melhores (00:07:36.080 –> 00:07:36.640) Para te jogar. (00:07:36.640 –> 00:07:39.060) Tu não vai jogar isso aqui. (00:07:39.060 –> 00:07:44.520) Justamente porque é um ambiente, eu percebi, o que eu percebi de cara, e se confirmou depois, (00:07:44.520 –> 00:07:47.180) Um ambiente muito descontrolado, entende? (00:07:47.680 –> 00:07:56.360) Um ambiente muito descontrolado, com muita, assim, nomes estranhos de personagens, todo (00:07:56.360 –> 00:08:03.060) Mundo pode se comunicar com todo mundo, então, é um negócio bem estranho. (00:08:03.060 –> 00:08:04.880) Pelo menos, era. (00:08:04.880 –> 00:08:06.060) A percepção. (00:08:06.060 –> 00:08:06.260) Não entrei mais para jogar. (00:08:06.260 –> 00:08:11.720) Mas aí, pelo que a gente vê agora nas reações e notícias e tudo mais, pelo visto, (00:08:11.720 –> 00:08:12.580) Continua estranho. (00:08:12.580 –> 00:08:13.620) Continua estranho. (00:08:13.620 –> 00:08:18.880) O, o, a grande questão aqui é que, por fora, e isso está acontecendo no mundo (00:08:18.880 –> 00:08:20.140) Inteiro, não é só no Brasil. (00:08:20.140 –> 00:08:23.820) No Brasil, por conta do ECA Digital, mas assim, começa.. (00:08:23.820 –> 00:08:24.660) Episódio 400, viu, Guilherme? (00:08:24.660 –> 00:08:25.940) Tá, legal. (00:08:25.940 –> 00:08:26.660) Episódio 400, isso é legal. (00:08:26.660 –> 00:08:32.380) É que começa a se ampliar toda a discussão de como você fazer a verificação de idade (00:08:32.380 –> 00:08:34.120) De pessoas nessas plataformas. (00:08:34.120 –> 00:08:41.000) Então, aqui a gente junta nesse mesmo pacote o Roblox e também o Discord. (00:08:41.360 –> 00:08:43.840) E aí, uma coisa muito interessante. (00:08:43.840 –> 00:08:48.460) Que gerou, assim, até um fenômeno social, me parece que relevante. (00:08:48.460 –> 00:08:52.160) Crianças começaram a protestar lá, porque as crianças seriam os beneficiários. (00:08:52.160 –> 00:08:56.820) Mas começaram a protestar por conta das novas medidas de verificação de idade. (00:08:56.820 –> 00:08:59.280) Aí, o Felca foi alvo de protesto e tal. (00:08:59.280 –> 00:09:05.920) E tem as crianças lá, simulando um protesto, segurando cartazes lá dentro do Roblox. (00:09:07.520 –> 00:09:11.380) Saíram também notícias dizendo, e aí, mais ou menos na tua percepção, Vinícius, (00:09:11.380 –> 00:09:16.720) De que o Roblox, como acontece com grandes plataformas, ele teria uma lógica de cassino, (00:09:16.720 –> 00:09:21.860) Ou seja, as crianças ficariam ali, utilizariam gatilhos psicológicos, (00:09:21.860 –> 00:09:26.860) Como já ocorre em redes sociais, para que as crianças ficassem mais tempo lá dentro. (00:09:26.860 –> 00:09:33.160) E aí, também começou a se ventilar de que predadores sexuais estariam dentro do Roblox, (00:09:33.160 –> 00:09:36.760) Se fazendo passar por crianças. (00:09:33.160 –> 00:09:36.760) Disfarçados aí. (00:09:36.760 –> 00:09:40.700) Nos Estados Unidos, isso é um problema bem sério lá, justamente com isso. (00:09:40.700 –> 00:09:52.020) E teve o CEO do Roblox, ele teve lá no episódio do The Hard Fork. (00:09:53.020 –> 00:09:59.060) Eu já vejo o número de episódios aqui, mas o nome do CEO é Dave Bazzucchi, tá? (00:09:59.060 –> 00:10:06.020) E, cara, o pessoal do The Hard Fork tentou, assim, impressionou, foi uma coisa que ficou até tenso, sabe? (00:10:06.020 –> 00:10:08.940) Não é normal, assim, tu ver esse episódio do The Hard Fork desse jeito. (00:10:08.940 –> 00:10:14.100) E o cara sempre saindo pela tangente, assim, e perguntas bem diretas. (00:10:14.460 –> 00:10:21.300) Em termos de controle de comunicação, a questão de deixar adultos falar com crianças, assim, várias coisas. (00:10:21.300 –> 00:10:23.420) E ele sempre dando evasiva. (00:10:23.420 –> 00:10:26.320) Ele não.. (00:10:23.420 –> 00:10:26.320) Assim, foi muito ruim, sabe? (00:10:26.320 –> 00:10:32.020) A impressão que tu tens é que o cara foi ali para tentar se justificar, (00:10:32.020 –> 00:10:35.280) Não aceitando os problemas que ele tem na plataforma. (00:10:35.280 –> 00:10:38.800) Isso o CEO da própria Roblox, sabe? (00:10:38.800 –> 00:10:40.320) Na própria empresa. (00:10:40.320 –> 00:10:50.300) Então, isso me deixou ainda mais convencido de que é uma empresa que não tem preocupação nenhuma (00:10:50.300 –> 00:10:54.240) Com essa questão de segurança de crianças e tudo mais, entende? (00:10:54.240 –> 00:10:55.540) É bem delicado. (00:10:55.540 –> 00:10:58.760) Se o pessoal já se preocupa com o Discord, o Roblox é muito pior. (00:10:58.760 –> 00:11:00.000) É muito pior. (00:11:00.000 –> 00:11:03.140) Em termos de possibilidades de comunicação. (00:11:03.140 –> 00:11:06.380) É uma reportagem aqui da Folha de São Paulo. (00:11:06.420 –> 00:11:10.920) Pelo Daniel Mariani, ele destaca justamente isso. (00:11:10.920 –> 00:11:13.660) Inclusive de monetização. (00:11:13.660 –> 00:11:18.120) Práticas predatórias em games e monetiza compulsão e frustrações. (00:11:18.120 –> 00:11:22.720) Explora mecanismos psicológicos como medo de ficar fora da plataforma. (00:11:22.720 –> 00:11:25.060) Ficar de fora e perda de noção de tempo. (00:11:25.060 –> 00:11:27.540) Então, ele conta uma historinha que ele sai com o filho e o filho diz (00:11:27.540 –> 00:11:31.600) Olha, nós temos que voltar até tal hora porque vai acontecer um evento lá no Roblox (00:11:31.600 –> 00:11:34.920) E eu preciso estar lá e enfim. (00:11:35.800 –> 00:11:42.840) E aí, a crítica toda é também de que haveria uma falta de vontade, digamos assim, (00:11:42.840 –> 00:11:46.920) Da empresa de adotar controles parentais e também a questão da verificação da idade. (00:11:46.920 –> 00:11:52.820) E a verificação da idade que começa agora também a ficar mais presente agora em março. (00:11:52.820 –> 00:11:55.440) Tudo indica que vai acontecer também no Discord. (00:11:55.720 –> 00:11:57.760) Então, isso.. (00:11:57.760 –> 00:12:01.500) E também o Discord, Vinícius, se você quiser falar logo a seguir, (00:12:01.500 –> 00:12:07.160) Mas o Discord também aplicando novas formas de controle parental. (00:12:07.160 –> 00:12:11.440) Mas a grande discussão, e mais uma vez, isso está acontecendo no Brasil e no mundo, é (00:12:11.440 –> 00:12:17.200) Mas qual vai ser ou quais serão as medidas de controle de identidade. (00:12:18.080 –> 00:12:27.420) Então, se fala em biometria facial, se fala em envio de documentos e tal, e aí a grande preocupação que se coloca (00:12:27.420 –> 00:12:33.320) É no aumento das práticas de vigilância sobre como, que as empresas vão lidar com isso, (00:12:33.320 –> 00:12:39.040) Sobre o fato de a biometria facial ser um dado sensível, que poderia ser utilizado para outras sinalidades. (00:12:39.040 –> 00:12:47.020) Uma das notícias aqui mostra que o próprio Discord estava usando uma empresa lá, ou contratou uma empresa de verificação (00:12:47.020 –> 00:12:53.380) Que tinha conexões, que é a tal da persona lá, conexões no site deles, dizia mesmo (00:12:53.380 –> 00:12:55.840) This is a US government system. (00:12:55.840 –> 00:13:01.240) Mas aí que tá, Guilherme, assim, a gente tem um problema bem sério para resolver aí, tá? (00:13:01.240 –> 00:13:08.060) Porque ao mesmo tempo que se quer que as empresas consigam fazer a verificação de idade, (00:13:09.040 –> 00:13:11.160) E aí sim, é ok. (00:13:11.160 –> 00:13:12.660) O que que eu faço essa verificação de idade? (00:13:12.660 –> 00:13:17.000) O que que eu faço de um jeito que eu consiga ter um mínimo de confiança (00:13:17.000 –> 00:13:20.060) De que a criatura não tá mentindo pra mim, que o Zora não tá mentindo pra mim (00:13:20.060 –> 00:13:22.420) E tá entrando com menos de 13 ou coisa parecida? (00:13:22.420 –> 00:13:25.660) Então, eu preciso uma forma de verificar isso. (00:13:25.660 –> 00:13:28.400) Tu vai verificar como? (00:13:28.400 –> 00:13:30.080) Imagina a própria empresa. (00:13:30.080 –> 00:13:34.680) Ela vai usar reconhecimento facial para tentar identificar a idade? (00:13:34.680 –> 00:13:36.440) Ela vai pedir documentação? (00:13:38.360 –> 00:13:40.020) Não sei se isso é bom, se é ruim, entende? (00:13:40.020 –> 00:13:42.000) Eu só tô com o problema. (00:13:42.000 –> 00:13:46.220) Aí, o ideal, eu não gostaria de ficar dando minha identidade pra tudo quanto é empresa. (00:13:46.220 –> 00:13:50.460) Então, uma outra opção o governo tem as informações. (00:13:50.460 –> 00:13:54.360) Uma agência governamental tem as informações, as nossas informações. (00:13:54.360 –> 00:13:55.580) Sabe a idade que a gente tem. (00:13:55.580 –> 00:13:57.540) Tem toda a comprovação de quem a gente é. (00:13:58.220 –> 00:14:07.340) Será que não dá pra ter um protocolo que, de forma anônima, eu acesso um site e esse site (00:14:07.340 –> 00:14:15.160) Conversa com o site do governo e aí eu converso com o site do governo e digo, gera aí um token (00:14:15.160 –> 00:14:21.420) Pra mim, eu sou fulano, gera um token dizendo que eu tenho mais de 18 anos ou tem mais de 13 (00:14:21.420 –> 00:14:22.460) Ou coisa parecida. (00:14:22.460 –> 00:14:27.360) Parecido com o que a gente já faz no Alt pra fazer autenticação quando a gente usa o Google e tudo mais. (00:14:27.360 –> 00:14:31.720) Parecido com isso, mas em vez de dizer quem nós somos, ele diz que idade que a gente tem. (00:14:31.720 –> 00:14:32.860) Tá? (00:14:32.860 –> 00:14:36.000) Só que daí tu tem vários outros problemas. (00:14:36.000 –> 00:14:38.380) Ok, o site pode não saber quem tu é por ali. (00:14:38.380 –> 00:14:39.360) Não tem problema. (00:14:39.360 –> 00:14:41.460) E aí tem outro jeito de saber quem tu mas enfim. (00:14:41.460 –> 00:14:43.180) Até porque você vai ter um cadastro lá. (00:14:43.240 –> 00:14:43.960) Exato. (00:14:43.960 –> 00:14:51.560) Então assim, ok, ao mesmo tempo tu vai estar dizendo pro governo o que que tu tá acessando. (00:14:51.560 –> 00:14:57.260) Então se o governo começar a registrar lá na hora de consultar quem tá consultando o teu cadastro (00:14:57.260 –> 00:15:00.900) Ou pra quem tu tá se autenticando, ele sabe o que que tu tá acessando. (00:15:00.900 –> 00:15:06.060) E aí teve um problema recente, a gente chegou a comentar aqui, eu só não lembro se foi na (00:15:06.060 –> 00:15:10.120) Inglaterra especificamente ou foi na União Europeia, tá? (00:15:10.120 –> 00:15:11.900) E se eu não tô enganado, foi na Inglaterra, cara. (00:15:11.900 –> 00:15:19.940) Mas eles estavam com a demanda de, pra acessar site pornográfico, tu tem que dar a tua (00:15:19.940 –> 00:15:23.300) Identificação real, tá? (00:15:23.300 –> 00:15:28.080) Pra que o site tenha certeza de que tu é o maior de idade. (00:15:28.080 –> 00:15:36.360) E aí começou uma outra discussão da questão da privacidade das pessoas que acessam (00:15:36.360 –> 00:15:37.600) Esses sites e tudo mais. (00:15:38.100 –> 00:15:46.060) Então eu não vejo uma solução perfeita, assim, que empresa privada não guarde as informações (00:15:46.060 –> 00:15:48.760) Ou não tem um repositório de informações pra fazer isso. (00:15:48.760 –> 00:15:52.560) Tem uma solução que já é conhecida que é uma chamada, com a chamada Meu ID. (00:15:52.560 –> 00:15:59.420) Eu uso pra algumas plataformas de jogos, que a ideia é justamente essa, tu se autentica (00:15:59.420 –> 00:16:04.100) Com a plataforma, com a tua documentação, faz prova, faz o esquema da imagem e tudo mais. (00:16:04.100 –> 00:16:06.140) Aí tu usa ela pra se autenticar uma plataforma. (00:16:06.140 –> 00:16:11.660) Então, ou a gente vai ter que ter uma empresa como essa, ou vai ter que vincular com algum (00:16:11.660 –> 00:16:12.500) Órgão do governo. (00:16:12.500 –> 00:16:18.140) Eu não vejo uma saída diferente pro Discord, por exemplo. (00:16:18.140 –> 00:16:21.540) Eu não vejo uma saída diferente pro Facebook. (00:16:22.220 –> 00:16:27.240) Como é que eu vou autenticar, como é que eu vou saber que o usuário tem mais certa idade, (00:16:27.240 –> 00:16:37.040) Sem que eu possa ser enganado e sem pedir uma confirmação mais consistente, documental, (00:16:37.040 –> 00:16:43.280) Nem que seja interfaceada ou intermediada pelo governo ou por uma empresa privada, (00:16:44.460 –> 00:16:49.760) Que diga, não, Vinícius realmente tem mais de 13 anos. (00:16:49.760 –> 00:16:51.620) É um problema não. (00:16:51.620 –> 00:16:53.520) Eu não vejo uma solução fácil pra isso. (00:16:53.520 –> 00:16:55.720) É um problema de privacidade. (00:16:55.720 –> 00:17:01.940) Essa questão que eu comentei aqui desse persona que o Discord tava usando, (00:17:01.940 –> 00:17:05.660) A grande questão era que era um negócio quase como um data broker de verificação (00:17:05.660 –> 00:17:11.980) Que iria ser utilizado para fins de vigilância estatal. (00:17:11.980 –> 00:17:17.900) E aí o Discord, depois que isso vira notícia, eles voltam atrás. (00:17:17.900 –> 00:17:19.940) Eles dizem, nós não vamos mais usar isso. (00:17:19.940 –> 00:17:21.100) Ou seja, assim, tiram. (00:17:21.100 –> 00:17:23.000) O problema é um problema de privacidade. (00:17:23.000 –> 00:17:27.280) Você poderia, eu imagino, Vinícius, que se todo mundo tivesse, (00:17:27.280 –> 00:17:31.960) Levasse proteção de dados a sério, você poderia sim ter um protocolo (00:17:31.960 –> 00:17:36.560) Em que empresas e Estado poderiam fornecer um meio de autenticação (00:17:36.560 –> 00:17:39.540) Privacy-friendly. (00:17:39.540 –> 00:17:43.860) Ou seja, sem a coleta de informações sobre quem acessou o quê. (00:17:43.860 –> 00:17:48.360) Eles, ambos os lados, ou todos os lados, deveriam abrir mão disso. (00:17:48.360 –> 00:17:53.080) Mas nós sabemos que no estado atual de coisas, isso não vai acontecer. (00:17:53.080 –> 00:17:53.800) É o contrário. (00:17:53.800 –> 00:17:57.440) O que essa notícia mostra é que as empresas e governos estão, (00:17:58.560 –> 00:18:02.820) Frequentemente, caminhando para utilizar essa desculpa da verificação (00:18:02.820 –> 00:18:04.760) Para aumentar o monitoramento sobre as pessoas. (00:18:04.760 –> 00:18:06.620) E essa que me parece que é a preocupação. (00:18:06.620 –> 00:18:12.060) Enfim, nós vamos deixar, como sempre, todas as notícias lá no Show Notes. (00:18:12.060 –> 00:18:15.020) Tem outras coisas aqui, se você se interessa por essa questão. (00:18:15.020 –> 00:18:18.660) O papel do Discord em questão de agressão de animais, (00:18:18.660 –> 00:18:21.040) Que teve aí recentemente com o caso do Cão Orelha. (00:18:21.040 –> 00:18:25.860) E também sobre como empresas internamente discutiram e sabem. (00:18:25.860 –> 00:18:29.540) O próprio Instagram sabia como o próprio Instagram fazia mal para meninas (00:18:29.540 –> 00:18:30.680) E para adolescentes e tudo mais. (00:18:30.680 –> 00:18:32.440) Então, isso continua acontecendo. (00:18:32.440 –> 00:18:35.160) Documentos internos aí vazados. (00:18:35.160 –> 00:18:40.440) Como acontece, demonstram que eles sabem dos potenciais maléficos. (00:18:40.440 –> 00:18:46.680) Para adolescentes e continuam oferecendo as plataformas ou serviços (00:18:46.680 –> 00:18:49.700) Sem levar em consideração a proteção da criança e do adolescente. (00:18:49.700 –> 00:18:53.220) Então, fica nesse primeiro grupo aí, Vinícius. (00:18:54.120 –> 00:18:54.640) Perfeito. (00:18:54.640 –> 00:18:57.720) Segundo grupo, tem a ver também. (00:18:57.720 –> 00:19:00.300) Tem a ver com crianças e adolescentes, mas não somente. (00:19:00.300 –> 00:19:03.120) Mas tem a ver também com proteção de.. (00:19:03.120 –> 00:19:05.740) Sobretudo de mulheres na internet, da imagem de mulheres (00:19:05.740 –> 00:19:12.360) E sobre como a IA tem sido utilizada especificamente pelo X ou Twitter, Vinícius? (00:19:12.360 –> 00:19:15.660) Todo mundo que fala X logo depois tem que dizer o antigo Twitter. (00:19:15.660 –> 00:19:17.800) Mas todo mundo já sabe que o X é o antigo Twitter. (00:19:18.040 –> 00:19:20.500) Você fica meio com um vício ali. (00:19:20.500 –> 00:19:22.880) E aí, o que começou? (00:19:22.880 –> 00:19:24.060) O nome virou.. (00:19:24.060 –> 00:19:26.180) Parece que o nome virou o X antigo Twitter mesmo. (00:19:26.180 –> 00:19:27.440) Junto. (00:19:27.440 –> 00:19:28.400) Que nem a HBO. (00:19:28.400 –> 00:19:31.180) Viu a HBO Max, que era HBO. (00:19:31.180 –> 00:19:33.280) Aí depois virou a HBO Max. (00:19:33.280 –> 00:19:34.760) Aí depois foi Max. (00:19:34.760 –> 00:19:35.980) Aí tinha.. (00:19:35.980 –> 00:19:36.140) Gol. (00:19:36.140 –> 00:19:38.360) Aí voltaram com a HBO agora. (00:19:38.360 –> 00:19:40.940) Eu tenho a assinatura deles lá. (00:19:40.940 –> 00:19:41.360) Meu Deus. (00:19:41.360 –> 00:19:44.700) Eu nem sei mais o que eu tô assinando lá, porque eu não sei mais o nome desse. (00:19:44.700 –> 00:19:51.960) E aí a questão que, enfim, nesses últimos meses aí virou, uma notícia muito forte (00:19:51.960 –> 00:19:57.740) Foi que o pessoal pedia lá pro Grock no X pra que ele tirasse, deixasse mulheres nuas (00:19:57.740 –> 00:20:02.920) Ou tirasse a roupa de mulheres, inclusive de crianças. (00:20:03.660 –> 00:20:10.520) E naquela perspectiva, de que a ferramenta é neutra, a ferramenta só faz aquilo que (00:20:10.520 –> 00:20:16.440) O usuário pede pra ela fazer, a culpa não é nossa e tal, mas ao mesmo tempo a ferramenta (00:20:16.440 –> 00:20:22.400) Era programada sem guardrails ali pra despir pessoas. (00:20:22.400 –> 00:20:28.940) E se ela pode ser programada para despir pessoas, me parece que também é fácil colocar guardrails (00:20:28.940 –> 00:20:35.400) Aí pra impedir que ela dispa, dispa, despir, despir pessoas. (00:20:35.400 –> 00:20:37.920) Acho que eu nunca tinha usado o verbo despir dessa forma. (00:20:37.920 –> 00:20:39.840) Então, é.. (00:20:39.840 –> 00:20:41.080) E aí o que que aconteceu? (00:20:41.080 –> 00:20:43.860) Não sei se você quer fazer uma observação agora ou depois aqui, só pra.. (00:20:43.860 –> 00:20:45.080) Não, pode sim, pode sim, pode sim. (00:20:45.080 –> 00:20:46.580) Aí o que que aconteceu? (00:20:46.580 –> 00:20:52.860) Foi toda uma pressão em cima do X, Elon Musk chega e diz, não, olha, nós vamos, (00:20:52.860 –> 00:21:00.340) Então vamos ampliar os controles aqui, só vai poder despir pessoas quem tiver a conta (00:21:00.340 –> 00:21:01.920) Paga do X. (00:21:01.920 –> 00:21:09.820) E obviamente que daí a emenda saiu pior que o soneto e no Brasil também já vimos movimentações, (00:21:10.160 –> 00:21:17.560) De três entidades aqui, a NPD, Ministério Público Federal e Senacom, em primeiro lugar fizeram (00:21:17.560 –> 00:21:25.420) Uma recomendação lá em janeiro e agora mais recentemente, depois da resposta do X, esses (00:21:25.420 –> 00:21:32.400) Três órgãos entenderam que as medidas foram insuficientes e cada um deles, na medida das (00:21:32.400 –> 00:21:36.620) Suas competências, iniciou um processo pra determinar. (00:21:36.620 –> 00:21:42.500) Aí sim, antes tinham sugerido medidas, o X informou as medidas que foram tomadas, eles (00:21:42.500 –> 00:21:47.500) Entenderam que não foram suficientes e a partir de agora começaram, cada um na medida das (00:21:47.500 –> 00:21:53.000) Suas competências, procedimentos administrativos, seja a NPD, uma medida preventiva, o Ministério (00:21:53.000 –> 00:21:58.960) Público também, um procedimento interno e a Senacom também numa medida cautelar administrativa (00:21:58.960 –> 00:22:01.700) Determinando que eles imediatamente parem. (00:22:01.700 –> 00:22:08.720) E implementem soluções técnicas e administrativas pra impedir a geração de imagens de pessoas (00:22:08.720 –> 00:22:10.000) Nuas. (00:22:10.620 –> 00:22:16.580) E pra variar. (00:22:10.620 –> 00:22:16.580) Pra variar as maiores vítimas disso foram mulheres, tá? (00:22:16.580 –> 00:22:19.800) E inclusive menores de idade, tá? (00:22:19.800 –> 00:22:20.800) E adolescentes. (00:22:20.800 –> 00:22:25.920) Isso foi o que causou, claro que, mesmo que não tivesse menores de idade envolvidas, (00:22:25.920 –> 00:22:32.620) Isso já gerou bastante polêmica, mas com menores de idade é a coisa.. (00:22:33.300 –> 00:22:37.840) E aí uma coisa, Guilherme, só uma observação, a gente já fala há muitos anos aqui no Segurança (00:22:37.840 –> 00:22:42.880) Legal, há muito tempo, essa questão da super exposição das crianças na internet e muitas (00:22:42.880 –> 00:22:43.960) Vezes pelos próprios pais. (00:22:43.960 –> 00:22:48.920) Quando a gente falava assim, ó, não expõe, não fica botando foto, não sei o quê, tu não (00:22:48.920 –> 00:22:50.900) Sabe o que vai poder ser feito com isso amanhã. (00:22:52.040 –> 00:22:56.620) E eu lembro de estar falando e falando sobre isso em 2015, em escolas, fazer umas palestras (00:22:56.620 –> 00:22:59.020) Assim, falando pro pessoal exatamente nesses termos. (00:22:59.020 –> 00:23:07.800) E agora aqui estamos nós em 2026 com o X antigo Twitter, uma ferramenta de ar embutida (00:23:07.800 –> 00:23:13.940) Que, cara, tira a roupa de adolescente, menor de idade e tudo mais. (00:23:14.480 –> 00:23:19.600) E aí, e mesmo que você seja cuidadoso com a imagem dos filhos e tal, que é realmente (00:23:19.600 –> 00:23:20.500) A recomendação.. (00:23:20.500 –> 00:23:22.560) As escolas tinham foto, publicam, é um.. (00:23:22.560 –> 00:23:28.740) Exato, não, e ainda você tem pessoas públicas, que eventualmente, eventualmente não, (00:23:28.740 –> 00:23:34.940) Mas pessoas públicas que têm a sua imagem publicada em função da sua, da sua atividade, (00:23:34.940 –> 00:23:40.600) Sei lá, uma política, pessoas do ramo político, enfim, artistas e tudo mais, e ainda (00:23:40.600 –> 00:23:46.220) Assim não há, me parece, aliás, eu tenho certeza que não há um direito de pessoas (00:23:46.220 –> 00:23:53.460) Usarem IA pra macular a imagem de mulheres, inclusive teve notícias, pegaram lá uma (00:23:53.460 –> 00:23:58.420) Primeira ministra, não lembro exatamente de qual país, e aí começaram a fazer isso (00:23:58.420 –> 00:24:02.200) Com a imagem dela pra desqualificá-la, enfim. (00:24:02.200 –> 00:24:10.580) E aí acaba entrando, Vinícius, um pouco naquilo, eu vou puxar lá pro grupo 6, (00:24:10.580 –> 00:24:16.200) Mas tem um pouco a ver, o Vinícius me mandou esses dias uma notícia de um.. (00:24:16.200 –> 00:24:21.120) Seria um aborígine, da Nova Zelândia, que fazia vídeos.. (00:24:21.120 –> 00:24:21.760) O Steve Irving. (00:24:21.760 –> 00:24:23.340) Conta aí a história, conta aí a história. (00:24:23.340 –> 00:24:23.680) O Steve Irving. (00:24:23.680 –> 00:24:24.440) . (00:24:24.440 –> 00:24:26.260) É inacreditável. (00:24:26.260 –> 00:24:29.200) O Steve Irving, o Steve Irving é um.. (00:24:29.200 –> 00:24:37.740) Um aborígine, australiano, que faz vídeos.. (00:24:37.740 –> 00:24:38.240) Neo-zelandês. (00:24:38.240 –> 00:24:38.740) Neo-zelandês. (00:24:38.740 –> 00:24:39.380) Neo-zelandês. (00:24:39.380 –> 00:24:42.400) É Nova Zelândia, não misturar Nova Zelândia com a Austrália. (00:24:42.400 –> 00:24:43.140) Nada. (00:24:43.140 –> 00:24:49.400) Neo-zelandês, que faz vídeos, aqueles vídeos assim, meio de aventura, assim, de ver os bichos (00:24:49.400 –> 00:24:50.780) De perto e meio.. (00:24:50.780 –> 00:24:55.620) Encontra uma cobra e mexe na cobra e um escorpião e por aí vai. (00:24:55.700 –> 00:24:56.700) Esses vídeos assim, sabe? (00:24:56.700 –> 00:24:57.140) E mostrando.. (00:24:57.140 –> 00:25:00.160) Mas mostrando os animais lá da Nova Zelândia. (00:25:00.160 –> 00:25:01.120) Sim, exatamente. (00:25:01.120 –> 00:25:02.460) Fazendo um negócio.. (00:25:02.460 –> 00:25:04.060) Cara, um negócio muito bem feito. (00:25:04.060 –> 00:25:05.340) Um negócio muito bem feito. (00:25:05.340 –> 00:25:06.800) Tipo um National Geographic, assim. (00:25:06.800 –> 00:25:09.320) Tinha um outro cara, aquele cara que morreu.. (00:25:09.320 –> 00:25:13.500) Bem conhecido, ele morreu com ferrão de uma arraia. (00:25:13.500 –> 00:25:14.200) Uma arraia. (00:25:14.200 –> 00:25:15.560) No peito. (00:25:15.560 –> 00:25:18.040) Eu não lembro o nome dele, mas tudo bem. (00:25:18.040 –> 00:25:21.040) .. (00:25:21.040 –> 00:25:24.880) E esse personagem é uma vibe muito parecida, tá? (00:25:25.700 –> 00:25:30.620) Cara, um negócio com, assim, muita gente seguindo. (00:25:30.620 –> 00:25:37.660) Houve 90 mil pessoas no Instagram e aí começou a chamar muita atenção, muita atenção. (00:25:37.660 –> 00:25:42.600) E aí o cara que criou o personagem veio ao público e dizia, ó, esse cara não existe. (00:25:43.400 –> 00:25:47.980) O Steve Irving era o cara que morreu com ferrão de arraia. (00:25:49.420 –> 00:25:50.400) Sim, verdade. (00:25:50.400 –> 00:25:51.480) Na notícia, sim. (00:25:51.480 –> 00:25:53.080) Eu misturei aqui que ele chamou.. (00:25:53.080 –> 00:25:54.620) É o Aboriginal Steve Irving. (00:25:54.620 –> 00:25:56.860) É o Steve Irving aborigine. (00:25:56.860 –> 00:25:57.340) Exatamente. (00:25:57.340 –> 00:25:59.780) O Steve Irving é o cara real que morreu. (00:25:59.780 –> 00:26:00.720) Isso, isso. (00:26:00.720 –> 00:26:01.220) Isso. (00:26:01.220 –> 00:26:03.380) E o nome do cara que.. (00:26:03.380 –> 00:26:06.220) Essa persona digital criada. (00:26:07.620 –> 00:26:09.340) Quem criou foi o.. (00:26:09.340 –> 00:26:10.400) Quem criou foi o.. (00:26:10.400 –> 00:26:13.720) O Keegan, John Manson, o cara que fez a.. (00:26:13.720 –> 00:26:15.140) Que criou o personagem. (00:26:15.140 –> 00:26:17.260) Cara, eu não tenho o nome do personagem aqui. (00:26:17.260 –> 00:26:20.040) Seria o Bush Legend. (00:26:20.040 –> 00:26:20.480) Mas.. (00:26:20.480 –> 00:26:21.320) Bush Legend. (00:26:21.320 –> 00:26:22.260) Esse é o canal. (00:26:22.260 –> 00:26:23.760) Esse é o canal, Bush Legend. (00:26:23.760 –> 00:26:24.520) O Bush Legend. (00:26:24.520 –> 00:26:25.260) A conta aqui, ó. (00:26:25.260 –> 00:26:26.260) Tá separado aqui. (00:26:26.260 –> 00:26:27.280) Bush Legend, a conta. (00:26:27.780 –> 00:26:30.500) Mas o interessante é que não é a conta em si, tá? (00:26:30.500 –> 00:26:33.260) Quem quiser olhar o Bush Legend lá, deve estar no ar ainda esse negócio. (00:26:33.260 –> 00:26:35.240) O interessante não é a conta em si. (00:26:35.240 –> 00:26:41.400) O interessante é que é uma coisa que tu assiste e, cara, tu não se dá a conta que (00:26:41.400 –> 00:26:42.360) Não é real. (00:26:42.360 –> 00:26:47.360) Talvez ali num vídeo ou outro tu possa até perceber, tá? (00:26:47.360 –> 00:26:50.880) Mas a maioria das pessoas não vai perceber. (00:26:50.880 –> 00:26:51.920) Não vai se dar conta, não vai se dar conta. (00:26:51.920 –> 00:26:53.560) Então, assim.. (00:26:53.560 –> 00:27:01.540) E recentemente teve um vídeo também, eu vi essa semana, ou semana passada, um vídeo (00:27:01.540 –> 00:27:06.360) Em que tava o Brad Pitt lutando com o Tom Cruise, tá? (00:27:06.360 –> 00:27:10.320) E eles discutindo os Epstein Files na luta. (00:27:10.320 –> 00:27:20.040) Eu mostrei pra minha esposa o vídeo e disse assim, olha só o trailer de um filme que eles (00:27:20.040 –> 00:27:20.940) Estão lançando e tal. (00:27:21.420 –> 00:27:24.060) Aí a gente começou a ver o vídeo, eu já tinha visto, ela começou a ver o vídeo, (00:27:24.060 –> 00:27:29.440) Assim, tá, mas aí eles falando e tal, e eles se batendo e não paravam de se bater (00:27:29.440 –> 00:27:31.840) E conversar, assim, mas que cena mais. (00:27:31.840 –> 00:27:33.080) Sem propósito. (00:27:33.480 –> 00:27:34.820) Uma coisa meio.. (00:27:34.820 –> 00:27:37.000) Mas ao mesmo tempo ela achou que fosse verdade. (00:27:37.000 –> 00:27:38.060) Aham. (00:27:38.060 –> 00:27:43.120) Ela achou que fosse verdade, porque os personagens, ali o Tom Cruise e o Brad Pitt, tá certinho (00:27:43.120 –> 00:27:43.500) Ali, cara. (00:27:43.500 –> 00:27:44.900) Claro que fica.. (00:27:44.900 –> 00:27:48.780) Depois eles começam a zoar, começam a mudar demais, assim, começam a botar uns personagens (00:27:48.780 –> 00:27:49.800) Meio estranhos no negócio. (00:27:50.560 –> 00:27:51.240) Mas é.. (00:27:51.240 –> 00:27:51.800) E há, cara. (00:27:51.800 –> 00:27:53.660) E aí isso gera tanto.. (00:27:53.660 –> 00:27:54.580) Não só uma preocupação. (00:27:54.580 –> 00:27:56.300) Agora nós estamos vando pra ano de eleição. (00:27:56.300 –> 00:27:57.360) Vamos ver o que vai acontecer. (00:27:57.360 –> 00:28:07.520) Mas não só gera essa possível confusão com quem assiste, pra quem assiste, mas também (00:28:07.520 –> 00:28:13.300) Tá gerando uma boa discussão lá nos Estados Unidos com relação, lá nos sindicatos dos (00:28:13.300 –> 00:28:16.380) Artistas e tudo mais. (00:28:16.380 –> 00:28:23.620) Porque, cara, se tu não quiser usar a imagem de alguém, que obviamente tu vai ter que pagar (00:28:23.620 –> 00:28:28.240) Pra usar a imagem do Tom Cruise, ninguém discute que mesmo que seja autorizado pelo Tom Cruise (00:28:28.240 –> 00:28:33.160) Tu vai ter que pagar o Tom Cruise pelo uso da imagem dele, mas que tu possa começar a criar (00:28:33.160 –> 00:28:37.600) Personagens completamente fictícios, ou pessoas. (00:28:37.600 –> 00:28:44.560) Atores fictícios, pra.. (00:28:37.600 –> 00:28:44.560) Pra atuarem num filme, atuarem numa série. (00:28:45.560 –> 00:28:48.320) E aí tu não precisar mais. (00:28:48.320 –> 00:28:53.580) Talvez tu possa substituir até o roteirista na brincadeira, mas tu não precisar mais (00:28:53.580 –> 00:28:55.500) De atores humanos pra atuar. (00:28:55.500 –> 00:28:57.120) Então.. (00:28:57.120 –> 00:29:01.940) Tem uma discussão bem interessante em cima disso, sabe? (00:29:01.940 –> 00:29:07.680) A questão do emprego dos artistas e da questão do conteúdo que tu entrega. (00:29:07.680 –> 00:29:09.200) Pras pessoas. (00:29:09.200 –> 00:29:11.120) Tu vai assistir um filme.. (00:29:11.120 –> 00:29:14.480) Assim, tu topa assistir um filme muito bom feito por Iá? (00:29:14.480 –> 00:29:16.560) Cara.. (00:29:16.560 –> 00:29:21.280) Eu acho que tem um elemento ético, inclusive se fala isso lá numa das notícias. (00:29:21.800 –> 00:29:27.300) Que é um preceito de trans.. (00:29:21.800 –> 00:29:27.300) Um preceito ético de transparência no uso de Iá. (00:29:27.300 –> 00:29:32.160) Então, quando a gente fala em princípios de governança de Iá, a transparência, ela (00:29:32.160 –> 00:29:36.060) Se desdobra em várias.. (00:29:32.160 –> 00:29:36.060) Várias situações. (00:29:36.060 –> 00:29:40.680) E uma das situações que a transparência se desdobra, enquanto princípio que deve reger (00:29:40.680 –> 00:29:45.320) O uso da Iá, isso eu tô falando porque é princípio já adotado na União Europeia (00:29:45.320 –> 00:29:46.940) E tudo mais, é.. (00:29:46.940 –> 00:29:51.140) . (00:29:46.940 –> 00:29:51.140) Você tem que saber que aquele conteúdo é gerado por Iá. (00:29:51.140 –> 00:29:52.800) E a grande.. (00:29:52.800 –> 00:29:54.320) E por que que isso virou notícia? (00:29:54.320 –> 00:29:55.540) Na verdade, são duas coisas. (00:29:55.540 –> 00:30:00.500) Isso virou notícia porque não se deram.. (00:29:55.540 –> 00:30:00.500) Ninguém se deu conta. (00:30:00.500 –> 00:30:05.540) Porque se diz, você mostra pra pessoa, se você olhar num vídeo e prestar atenção, (00:30:05.540 –> 00:30:06.760) Você vai descobrir que é. (00:30:06.760 –> 00:30:10.420) A questão é que hoje, até a gente comentava isso antes. (00:30:10.420 –> 00:30:17.520) Nós, eu e você e quem nos escuta, nós já estamos consumindo conteúdos gerados por (00:30:17.520 –> 00:30:18.440) Iá sem se dar conta. (00:30:18.440 –> 00:30:18.840) Por quê? (00:30:18.840 –> 00:30:23.400) Porque a lógica de consumir conteúdo em rede social não é você ficar prestando atenção (00:30:23.400 –> 00:30:28.980) Nos detalhes, a lógica é que você vai passando rapidamente sobre certos conteúdos. (00:30:28.980 –> 00:30:32.780) E você fica vendo muitos, aquela história do feed infinito que a gente já falou. (00:30:32.780 –> 00:30:38.080) Que é uma das maldições das redes sociais e o que aprisiona as pessoas lá dentro é (00:30:38.080 –> 00:30:38.860) O feed infinito. (00:30:38.860 –> 00:30:39.900) E vamos lá. (00:30:39.900 –> 00:30:42.620) O teu espírito crítico ali fica bem rebaixado. (00:30:42.840 –> 00:30:45.960) Claro que quando a gente olha o vídeo depois sabendo o que bom, tudo bem. (00:30:45.960 –> 00:30:51.860) Ontem mesmo eu tava na academia e fica uma TV ligada lá e tava passando uma propaganda (00:30:51.860 –> 00:30:53.300) Do Liquida Porto Alegre. (00:30:53.300 –> 00:30:57.000) É tipo uma liquidação de verão que eles fazem aqui na cidade. (00:30:57.800 –> 00:31:05.020) E, cara, cinco segundos da coisa já deu pra ver que era tudo gerado por Iá, cara. (00:31:05.020 –> 00:31:09.860) Toda uma propaganda gerada por Iá, até porque no final tinha uma senhora bem idosa correndo (00:31:09.860 –> 00:31:15.540) Junto com um monte de pessoas que ela não teria como uma senhora. (00:31:15.540 –> 00:31:19.400) Enfim, até teria, mas chamou a atenção o fato de ser uma senhora bem idosa correndo (00:31:19.400 –> 00:31:21.000) Loucamente na cidade, assim, sabe? (00:31:21.640 –> 00:31:25.980) Não que não seja possível, não que não seja possível. (00:31:25.980 –> 00:31:29.660) Não, não que não seja possível, mas, assim, aquilo já disparou, não, como assim. (00:31:29.660 –> 00:31:35.940) Então, você tem um elemento ético muito, isso tá acontecendo, a propaganda, eu acredito, (00:31:35.940 –> 00:31:39.720) Que o CONAR, enfim, a regulamentação da propaganda tem que deixar isso claro. (00:31:39.720 –> 00:31:45.220) Olha, você está assistindo uma reportagem, uma propaganda feita por Iá, assim como você (00:31:45.220 –> 00:31:49.340) Quando você tá consumindo um produto no supermercado, diz se aquilo ali tem transgênico (00:31:49.340 –> 00:31:51.900) Ou não, ou o que consta. (00:31:51.900 –> 00:31:52.140) Excesso de sal. (00:31:52.140 –> 00:31:53.980) Excesso de sal, por que não? (00:31:53.980 –> 00:31:58.020) Porque a gente sabe que isso é bem brain rotizável. (00:31:58.020 –> 00:31:58.900) Aham. (00:31:58.900 –> 00:32:01.200) Brain rotizável, você não inventei agora, Vinícius. (00:32:01.200 –> 00:32:02.880) É um bom verbo. (00:32:02.880 –> 00:32:04.220) Brain rotizável. (00:32:04.220 –> 00:32:13.740) Vinícius, Brasil, você já deve ter ouvido falar disso, mas Brasil e União Europeia, (00:32:13.740 –> 00:32:17.320) Consolidaram lá o seu acordo de adequação mútua. (00:32:17.320 –> 00:32:23.180) Então, basicamente, agora, no final de janeiro, foi anunciado esse reconhecimento recíproco (00:32:23.180 –> 00:32:25.560) De adequação dos regimes de proteção de dados. (00:32:25.560 –> 00:32:31.800) E tem-se pintado isso como um marco histórico, porque, além desse franco reconhecimento, (00:32:31.800 –> 00:32:35.060) A ideia é que se abra, principalmente para o Brasil. (00:32:35.440 –> 00:32:42.000) Mas a ideia é que o Brasil poderia se beneficiar com base nesse acordo de adequação, (00:32:42.000 –> 00:32:47.660) Prestando serviços, para toda a União Europeia. (00:32:47.660 –> 00:32:53.020) Então, isso poderia ampliar o uso de data centers para IA e também o uso de próprio serviço, (00:32:53.020 –> 00:32:56.040) Porque uma vez que você tem esse reconhecimento, você não precisa, (00:32:57.180 –> 00:33:00.580) Digamos assim, quando você for fazer a transferência internacional de dados, (00:33:00.580 –> 00:33:03.140) Que é uma das situações lá em que você faz de um lado para o outro, (00:33:03.140 –> 00:33:05.800) Esse reconhecimento implica na possibilidade automática, (00:33:05.800 –> 00:33:08.880) Sem, por exemplo, você pedir, precisar pedir consentimento, (00:33:08.880 –> 00:33:12.820) Ou fazer avisos adicionais, ou reconhecimentos das autoridades. (00:33:12.820 –> 00:33:18.980) Então, abre-se, de fato, um espaço comercial também, (00:33:19.040 –> 00:33:22.300) Não seja de fluxos, de fluxo seguro de dados, enfim. (00:33:22.300 –> 00:33:24.600) Qual a questão? (00:33:24.600 –> 00:33:31.800) A questão é que, quando a gente faz uma comparação em como a União Europeia tem aplicado sanções (00:33:31.800 –> 00:33:35.620) E como o Brasil tem aplicado sanções, mesmo diante desse reconhecimento, (00:33:35.620 –> 00:33:39.620) Nós notamos que há uma distância, porque no Brasil ainda há, (00:33:39.620 –> 00:33:43.980) E aqui eu falo como titular de dados pessoais, (00:33:44.360 –> 00:33:49.580) Ainda há um certo, é um certo, como é que eu vou dizer, (00:33:49.580 –> 00:33:54.640) Atraso, talvez, na aplicação de sanções em situações muito complexas. (00:33:54.640 –> 00:33:57.340) Apenas para vocês terem uma ideia de alguns números, (00:33:57.340 –> 00:34:00.120) Na França, por exemplo, agora é janeiro, fevereiro, (00:34:00.120 –> 00:34:06.280) Você teve a France Travel, foi multada em 5 milhões de euros, (00:34:06.280 –> 00:34:09.920) A Free Mobile, 42 milhões de euros, (00:34:10.920 –> 00:34:14.820) É dividido aqui em Free Mobile e Free, não sei o que é. (00:34:14.820 –> 00:34:19.140) Então, você teve aí todas essas situações somente, (00:34:19.140 –> 00:34:22.120) Ou seja, multas milionárias na França, (00:34:22.120 –> 00:34:27.400) Somente por situações de vazamentos que se confirmou que ocorreram (00:34:27.400 –> 00:34:30.300) Por causa de insuficiência de medidas de segurança (00:34:30.300 –> 00:34:32.560) Adotadas por essas organizações. (00:34:32.560 –> 00:34:34.060) Isso na França. (00:34:34.060 –> 00:34:36.940) Na Espanha, que é uma autoridade pequena, (00:34:36.940 –> 00:34:40.180) Tem, se não me engano, menos funcionários do que, (00:34:40.180 –> 00:34:43.540) Até fiz esses dias um apanhado de número de funcionários e tal, (00:34:43.540 –> 00:34:45.960) Mas acho que tem menos funcionários do que a nossa NPD, (00:34:45.960 –> 00:34:53.040) Eles terminaram 2025 com 394 procedimentos sancionadores (00:34:53.040 –> 00:34:57.040) E com multas que somadas deram 40 milhões de euros. (00:34:57.040 –> 00:35:00.040) Então, acho que para consolidar, de fato, (00:35:00.040 –> 00:35:03.700) Urge que nós tenhamos um aprimoramento, (00:35:03.700 –> 00:35:05.480) E eu não falo nem somente em multas, (00:35:05.480 –> 00:35:08.720) Eu falo em sanções, impedir certos tratamentos, (00:35:08.720 –> 00:35:14.400) Caminhar justamente para a implementação de medidas de segurança, (00:35:14.400 –> 00:35:16.680) Resolver a questão das farmácias, (00:35:16.680 –> 00:35:20.380) Resolver a questão que a gente já falou aqui no nosso podcast (00:35:20.380 –> 00:35:26.980) Sobre a farra das biometrias faciais em academias, (00:35:26.980 –> 00:35:29.580) Em condomínios. (00:35:29.580 –> 00:35:32.780) Então, acho que a gente comemora, de fato, (00:35:32.780 –> 00:35:36.060) Mas há um caminho ainda a ser perseguido, me parece, (00:35:36.060 –> 00:35:40.100) Posso estar errado, enfim, mas me parece que há um caminho ainda a ser percorrido. (00:35:40.100 –> 00:35:42.580) Isso, obviamente, é uma via de duas mãos. (00:35:42.580 –> 00:35:45.340) Então, a gente tem uma equivalência. (00:35:45.340 –> 00:35:46.080) Isso. (00:35:46.080 –> 00:35:48.500) Então, uma coisa que muda, então, por exemplo, (00:35:48.500 –> 00:35:51.660) Se você quiser usar algum data center na Europa, (00:35:51.660 –> 00:35:53.620) Na União Europeia, para fazer mais ou menos de dados (00:35:53.620 –> 00:35:57.820) E cidadãos brasileiros, em princípio, ok. (00:35:57.820 –> 00:35:59.860) Isso. (00:35:59.860 –> 00:36:02.260) Quando você tem na União Europeia, (00:36:02.260 –> 00:36:04.040) Nos países que fazem parte da União Europeia, (00:36:04.040 –> 00:36:06.980) Não é na Europa, porque você tem países que.. (00:36:06.980 –> 00:36:08.340) Sim, eu falei, União Europeia, não é Europeia. (00:36:08.340 –> 00:36:10.960) Tu tem Inglaterra que não faz mais parte da União Europeia. (00:36:10.960 –> 00:36:12.060) Inglaterra não é mais. (00:36:12.060 –> 00:36:14.520) Aí o pessoal lá da Inglaterra, (00:36:14.520 –> 00:36:15.720) Quando entra na União Europeia, (00:36:15.720 –> 00:36:18.300) Eles ficam na fila não dos residentes da União Europeia, (00:36:18.300 –> 00:36:20.040) Eles têm que enfrentar a fila de todo mundo, (00:36:20.040 –> 00:36:21.800) Mas Suíça também não é. (00:36:21.960 –> 00:36:22.660) É engraçado. (00:36:22.660 –> 00:36:24.420) A Suíça também não é. (00:36:24.420 –> 00:36:25.960) Embora a Suíça tenha, (00:36:25.960 –> 00:36:30.200) Seja conhecida justamente por hospedar sistemas, (00:36:30.200 –> 00:36:32.080) The Privacy Friendly, de segurança, (00:36:32.080 –> 00:36:34.180) Mais VPNs que ficam lá na Suíça, (00:36:34.180 –> 00:36:36.520) Se vendem, mas não faz parte da Suíça. (00:36:36.520 –> 00:36:38.740) A Suíça acho que faz parte do espaço Schengen, (00:36:38.740 –> 00:36:39.340) Se não me engano, (00:36:39.340 –> 00:36:42.320) Que permite que você entre, (00:36:42.320 –> 00:36:44.640) Sem a necessidade de passar por fronteiras, (00:36:44.640 –> 00:36:46.120) Tem o tráfego livre, (00:36:46.120 –> 00:36:47.180) Mas acho que não faz, (00:36:47.180 –> 00:36:49.740) Mas não faz da União Europeia. (00:36:51.160 –> 00:36:52.620) Bom, Vinícius, (00:36:52.620 –> 00:36:54.680) Seguindo aqui, (00:36:54.680 –> 00:36:59.520) Nós temos também toda a questão da vigilância, (00:36:59.520 –> 00:37:02.240) Lá no Grupo 5, (00:37:02.240 –> 00:37:04.420) De vigilância e privacidade, (00:37:04.420 –> 00:37:05.220) Que nós vimos, (00:37:05.220 –> 00:37:07.680) Que me chamou bastante atenção, (00:37:07.680 –> 00:37:09.320) Chamou bastante atenção, (00:37:09.320 –> 00:37:13.660) Que foi o FBI solicitando a Microsoft (00:37:13.660 –> 00:37:17.460) A entrega de chaves BitLocker. (00:37:17.460 –> 00:37:20.720) E a gente estava conversando sobre isso antes, (00:37:20.720 –> 00:37:23.100) Não é obrigatório, (00:37:23.100 –> 00:37:26.540) Que você salve a chave do BitLocker na Microsoft. (00:37:26.540 –> 00:37:26.940) Não. (00:37:26.940 –> 00:37:27.900) Você pode salvar. (00:37:27.900 –> 00:37:29.380) Pode não estar em outro lugar. (00:37:30.520 –> 00:37:33.140) O que chama atenção aqui é a possibilidade, (00:37:33.140 –> 00:37:33.740) E vejam, (00:37:33.740 –> 00:37:35.360) Assim, (00:37:35.360 –> 00:37:36.800) O FBI e a polícia, (00:37:36.800 –> 00:37:39.040) Eu tenho absoluta certeza (00:37:39.040 –> 00:37:44.300) Que todos esses órgãos de investigação, (00:37:44.300 –> 00:37:45.220) De persecução penal, (00:37:45.220 –> 00:37:46.440) Tem o direito de, (00:37:46.440 –> 00:37:47.820) Eventualmente, (00:37:47.820 –> 00:37:50.180) Por uma ordem judicial fundamentada, (00:37:50.180 –> 00:37:52.420) Pedir acesso a nuvens, (00:37:52.420 –> 00:37:54.300) Como é o que está acontecendo agora. (00:37:54.560 –> 00:37:56.020) Os grandes escândalos aí, (00:37:56.020 –> 00:37:56.820) Banco Master, (00:37:57.240 –> 00:37:57.620) Mas, assim, (00:37:57.620 –> 00:38:01.300) Grandes escândalos e de crimes e tal, (00:38:01.300 –> 00:38:04.420) O pessoal acaba acessando nuvem de gente (00:38:04.420 –> 00:38:06.180) Que deixa o WhatsApp fazendo, (00:38:06.180 –> 00:38:07.480) Não se fala muito, (00:38:07.480 –> 00:38:10.940) Mas que deixa o WhatsApp fazendo backup lá no Google, (00:38:10.940 –> 00:38:11.940) Acessa o Google, (00:38:11.940 –> 00:38:14.000) Recupera o backup e vê tudo que o cara fez, (00:38:14.000 –> 00:38:14.720) Quem conversou, (00:38:14.720 –> 00:38:16.020) E arquivos e tudo mais. (00:38:16.020 –> 00:38:18.580) Mas o que chama atenção (00:38:18.580 –> 00:38:22.160) Sobretudo como os Estados Unidos agora estão se posicionando, (00:38:22.160 –> 00:38:23.440) Nessa parte de vigilância, (00:38:23.440 –> 00:38:25.520) Já vem se posicionando ao longo dos últimos anos, (00:38:25.520 –> 00:38:27.260) De repente, (00:38:27.260 –> 00:38:30.500) O FBI pegar a tua chave do BitLocker (0

“Vibecoding,” or using artificial-intelligence tools such as Claude Code to generate code for websites or apps, is the newest A.I. trend, and it could transform the software-development industry.Kevin Roose, a technology columnist for The New York Times, takes us inside the process.Guest: Kevin Roose, a technology columnist for The New York Times in the San Francisco Bay Area and a host of the Times tech podcast, “Hard Fork.”Background reading: Here are five ways people are using Claude Code.With “vibecoding," A.I. can help anyone build an app.Not a coder? With A.I., just having an idea can be enough.Photo: Photo illustration by The New York TimesFor more information on today's episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.  Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On Christmas Eve, Elon Musk's X rolled out an in-app tool that lets users alter other people's photos and post the results directly in reply. With minimal safeguards, it quickly became a pipeline for sexualized, non-consensual deepfakes, including imagery involving minors, delivered straight into victims' notifications.  Renée DiResta, Hany Farid, and Casey Newton join Kara to dig into the scale of the harm, the failure of app stores and regulators to act quickly, and why the “free speech” rhetoric used to defend the abuse is incoherent. Kara explores what accountability could look like — and what comes next as AI tools get more powerful. Renée DiResta is the former technical research manager at Stanford's Internet Observatory. She researched online CSAM for years and is one of the world's leading experts on online disinformation and propaganda. She's also the author of Invisible Rulers: The People Who Turn Lies into Reality. Hany Farid is a professor of computer sciences and engineering at the University of California, Berkeley. He's been described as the father of digital image forensics and has spent years developing tools to combat CSAM. Casey Newton is the founder of the tech newsletter Platformer and the co-host of The New York Times podcast Hard Fork.  This episode was recorded on Tuesday, January 20th. When reached for comment, a spokesperson for X referred us to a ⁠a statement post on X⁠, which reads in part: We remain committed to making X a safe platform for everyone and continue to have zero tolerance for any forms of child sexual exploitation, non-consensual nudity, and unwanted sexual content. We take action to remove high-priority violative content, including Child Sexual Abuse Material (CSAM) and non-consensual nudity, taking appropriate action against accounts that violate our X Rules. We also report accounts seeking Child Sexual Exploitation materials to law enforcement authorities as necessary. Questions? Comments? Email us at on@voxmedia.com or find us on YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, Threads, and Bluesky @onwithkaraswisher. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The jobs artificial intelligence could replace and the blunders it makes tend to steal all the headlines. But are there also ways we could use AI to actually make us better people? And how would we even define or assess that? At the 2025 Aspen Ideas Festival, three experts on the human side of this technology discuss what AI is capable of, how it's limited and how it could be harnessed for self-improvement. UCLA marketing and psychology professor Hal Hershfield joins MIT researcher Pat Pataranutaporn and co-host of the “Hard Fork” podcast, Kevin Roose, for a lively exploration of AI-assisted human potential. Journalist and host of “Radio Atlantic,” Hanna Rosin, moderates the conversation.

Over the past year we've been working with the podcast “Search Engine” on a project that reimagines what the internet can be. What if instead of rage-baiting, a social platform incentivized friendly interaction and good faith discussion? Today we're bringing “Hard Fork” listeners an episode we made with the “Search Engine” team called “The Fediverse Experiment” where we end up creating our own social media platform. Guest:PJ Vogt, host of the podcast “Search Engine.” Additional Reading: The Dream of the Fediverse Is Alive on ThreadsWhat Is Mastodon and Why Are People Leaving Twitter for It? We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

Our present version of the internet is arguably the worst it's ever been. Which means – any shot at changing things, even an unlikely one – is worth trying out. Three podcasters who've spent years critiquing social media companies try to build their own small alternative social media. A collaboration with Hard Fork's Kevin Roose and Casey Newton. Incognito Mode⁠⁠, our ad-free, no-rerun, bonus episode feed. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Happy New Year! We're kicking things off by sharing our tech resolutions for 2026 and reflecting on how we fared with our social media and meditation goals from last year.Then, we open up the listener mailbag and answer your questions on data centers in space, who's to blame when a customer service A.I. bot lies to you and whether it's OK to deepfake Santa into your home security footage.Also, get your very own “Hard Fork” hats, now available at the Times Store: https://store.nytimes.com/products/hard-fork-baseball-cap Additional Reading: What I Learned About Productivity This YearData Centers in Space + A.I. Policy on the Right + A Gemini History MysteryShuffling Some Whimsy Into Poker and Blackjack We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

Kevin recently joined the hosts of The Wirecutter Show for a conversation about the A.I. products he's using, strategies to make chatbots work better and his beloved robot vacuums Bruce Roose and Bruce Roose Deuce. It's a conversation we think Hard Fork listeners will enjoy.We'll be back in your feeds with our annual tech resolutions episode on Friday.  Additional Reading Tips for Using A.I. Smarter With Hard Fork's Kevin Roose We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

Alex Chepurnoy is a cryptographer & researcher who famously wrote a Bitcoin client in Haskell in only 3600 lines of code. He is currently working on Ergo, a proof of work blockchain which improves upon Bitcoin's design in order to achieve smart contracts and DeFi. How does it work? Let's find out! Time stamps: 00:01:11 Introducing Alex Chepurnoy 00:01:51 Alex's Bitcoin Discovery & Early Development 00:02:37 Namecoin, SmartContract.com, and Cardano Involvement 00:05:15 Satoshi Theories & Code Analysis 00:07:00 Rewriting Bitcoin & Distributed Systems Perspective 00:08:39 Consensus Protocols & Altcoin Proliferation 00:10:20 Bitcoin's Early Appeal & Peer-to-Peer Motivation 00:14:08 Bitcoin's Revolutionary Monetary Model 00:15:45 Staying in Crypto: Problems to Solve 00:17:19 Bitcoin as Digital Gold & Smart Contracts 00:21:29 Ethereum vs. Bitcoin: Contractual Capabilities 00:23:02 Ergo's Approach: Contracts & Protocol Upgrades 00:26:56 Namecoin's History & Technical Innovations 00:31:10 Merged Mining & Sidechain Politics 00:34:35 Early Bitcoin Contributions & BTC Scala Client 00:38:49 Conference Presentations & ZeroJoin 00:41:49 Demurrage, Storage Rent, and Bitcoin Upgrades 00:45:01 NFTs, Inscriptions, and Bitcoin Community Divisions 00:50:10 Hard Forks, Immutability, and Ethereum Classic 00:55:17 Markets, Transaction Fees, and Bitcoin's Security Budget 00:57:59 Lightning Network Limitations & Off-Chain Cash 01:01:58 Challenging Bitcoin's Scaling & Off-Chain Solutions 01:06:38 Ergo's Protocol Design & Civil War Lessons 01:08:25 Ergo's Innovations for Bitcoin 01:15:38 Quantum Resistance & Hard Fork Challenges 01:19:51 Consensus Cleanup & Upgrade Difficulties 01:23:10 Community Proposals & Development Gridlock 01:25:07 Alex's Tech Stack & Personal Devices 01:31:07 Satoshi's Identity & Coding Style 01:38:34 NXT, Bitcoin 2.0, and Ethereum's Success 01:45:35 Proof of Work vs. Proof of Stake 01:50:44 Philosophy of Proof of Work & Fair Distribution 01:53:09 VCs, Token Dumps, and Proof of Work Revival 01:54:16 Proof of Stake Attacks & Network Resilience 01:59:20 Ergo's Network Parameters & Smart Contracts 02:21:17 Privacy Features: Mixers & Stealth Addresses 02:28:40 Monetary Policy, Emission, and Pre-mine 02:34:09 Monero vs. Zcash: Community & Funding 02:48:03 Bridging Blockchains & Rosen Bridge 02:51:04 Peer-to-Peer Finance & Smart Contract Design 02:53:57 Future Vision: Interconnected PoW Blockchains 02:56:41 Double Merged Mining Sidechains 03:17:45 Community Resources & Getting Involved 03:20:11 Conclusion & Final Thoughts

From an unenforced TikTok ban and a chatbot calling itself MechaHitler to mounting fears that we're in an AI bubble, 2025 was another messy year for the tech industry. We watched billionaire CEOs fully align themselves with President Trump, Nvidia become the first $5 trillion company, and Elon Musk's popularity tank, thanks to his DOGE antics (and yet he could still become the world's first trillionaire).  Kara breaks down the biggest tech stories of 2025 with four journalists: Bill Cohan, a longtime financial journalist, author, and Puck co-founder who covers Wall Street; Casey Newton, founder and editor of the tech newsletter Platformer and host of The New York Times podcast “Hard Fork”; Joanna Stern, senior personal technology columnist for The Wall Street Journal and author of a forthcoming book about how she surrendered her life to A.I. for a year; and Charlie Warzel, staff writer at The Atlantic and host of the tech and culture podcast “Galaxy Brain.”  (Please note, this conversation was recorded before news broke that TikTok had signed a deal to spin off its U.S. business to a group of American investors, the Justice Department released a trove of documents tied to investigations into Jeffrey Epstein, and Waymo halted service in San Francisco because of power outages in the area.)  Questions? Comments? Email us at on@voxmedia.com or find us on YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, Threads, and Bluesky @onwithkaraswisher. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week I'm the guest and my friends at Whiskey Web and Whatnot are the hosts. And they're great hosts, because they send their guests a bottle of whiskey before talking web and whatnot...As we head into the holidays I hope you'll raise a glass with us and enjoy this very laid back episode... Chuck and Robbie hosted me a year ago and I love that they got me on tape when they did, because it was just as I was starting to consider making some big changes to my show... Changes that I will announce in late January... so get excited for that! and please subscribe to this here podcsat in your favorite apps, and get the newsletter at crafted.fmHere's how they described the episode:Robbie and Chuck talk with Dan Blumberg about his journey from radio producer to product manager and podcaster. They explore the art of building great software, podcasting essentials, and the changing landscape of podcast platforms. Plus, Dan shares his kayaking adventures and insights on balancing authenticity and growth.And if you please…Subscribe to the CRAFTED. newsletter atcrafted.fmShare with a friend! Word of mouth is by far the most powerful way for podcasts to growSponsor the show? I'm actively speaking to potential sponsors for 2026 episodes. Drop me a line and let's talk.Get psyched!… There are some big updates to this show coming soonFor more on Whiskey Web and Whatnot...Check ou:t https://whiskey.fmConnect with Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagnerConnect with Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd In this episode:- (00:00) - Intro- (03:26) - Whiskey review and rating: Woodinville Straight Bourbon- (09:23) - Apple Podcasts vs Spotify- (11:20) - Spotify video vs YouTube- (13:02) - Podcasting audio vs video- (15:24) - Advice on starting a podcast- (19:24) - Equipment requirements for guests on podcasts- (22:15) - Having a pre-interview interview- (26:06) - Social media and podcasting challenges- (27:37) - How to grow your audience- (33:18) - How to make money as a podcaster- (37:28) - Being yourself vs having a persona- (38:42) - Monetizing your podcast- (42:11) - What's missing from RSS- (43:38) - Dan's non-tech career ideas- (45:40) - Podcast recommendations- (49:12) - Dan's plugsLinks- Woodinville Straight Bourbon: https://woodinvillewhiskeyco.com/- Crafted: https://crafted.fm- WNYC: https://www.wnyc.org/- NYT: https://www.nytimes.com/- Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/- Spotify: https://www.spotify.com/- Pocket Casts: https://pocketcasts.com/- IAB: https://www.iab.com/- National Geographic: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/- Shure SM7B: https://www.shure.com/en-US/products/microphones/sm7b- Focusrite: https://focusrite.com/- Shure MV7: https://www.shure.com/en-US/products/microphones/mv7- Elgato: https://www.elgato.com/- AirPods: https://www.apple.com/airpods/- Audio Technica: https://www.audio-technica.com/en-us/- Morning Edition: https://www.wnyc.org/shows/me- Chicago Public Radio: https://www.wbez.org/- Riverside: https://riverside.fm/- TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/- Mr. Beast: https://youtube.com/@mrbeast- Docker: https://www.docker.com/- Artium: https://www.thisisartium.com/- Jay Clouse: https://creatorscience.com/- Hark: https://harkaudio.com/- Syntax: https://syntax.fm/- Hard Fork: https://www.nytimes.com/column/hard-fork- Big Technology with Alex Kantrowitz: https://www.bigtechnology.com/- Decoder with Nilay Patel: https://www.theverge.com/decoder- How I Built This: https://www.npr.org/series/490248027/how-i-built-this- Acquired: https://www.acquired.fm/- Smartless: https://smartless.com/- Wondery: https://wondery.com/- Sacha Baron Cohen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacha_Baron_Cohen- Tim Burton: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Burton- Beetlejuice: https://www.warnerbros.com/movies/beetlejuice- Darknet Diaries: https://darknetdiaries.com/

Abdel is one of the most prolific developers in the Zero Knowledge space. Since our conversation in September, he was able to accomplish so much that he requested another interview to talk about it. So what happened with ZK STARKs that is so important? Time stamps: 00:01:04 Podcast Introduction & Sponsor Acknowledgments 00:02:15 Vlad's Rant on Bitcoin Media & Podcast Landscape 00:03:24 Bitcoin Takeover Podcast Mission & Seven-Year Anniversary 00:04:39 Transition to Abdel's Updates & ZK-STARKS 00:05:44 Abdel's Zcash & Bitcoin Proposals 00:07:00 Comparing Bitcoin and Zcash Community Reactions 00:08:36 Altcoins as Experimentation Grounds 00:11:23 Scaling, Rollups, and Drivechains 00:13:10 Abdel's Proposal for Native STARK Verification 00:17:19 Zcash's TDE and Layer 2 Possibilities 00:19:22 ZK-Rollups, Privacy, and Regulatory Pressures 00:21:02 Government Surveillance & KYC Concerns 00:24:26 Cultural Stigma Around Bitcoin Privacy 00:25:34 Zcash's SEC Presentation & Institutional Acceptance 00:28:58 Debate on Privacy, Transparency, and Backdoors 00:30:00 Bitcoin's Social Layer & Governance 00:32:47 Critique of Bitcoin Perfectionism & Altcoin Dismissal 00:35:49 Bitcoin's Mission: P2P Cash vs. Store of Value 00:36:49 Learning from Ethereum & Second-Layer Innovations 00:37:24 Sponsor Plugs & BTCfi Introduction 00:40:14 BTCfi: Bitcoin Staking & Yield Mechanisms 00:46:15 Bridging BTC to StarkNet & Atomic Swaps 00:48:36 BTCfi: KYC, Permissionless DeFi, and Institutional Offerings 00:50:59 DeFi Risks & Bitcoin Staking Security 00:51:40 ZK-STARK Verifiers on Bitcoin Cash 00:53:10 Bitcoin Cash, Zcash, and Social Layer Value 00:58:54 Bitcoin Cash's Technical Innovations & Community Dynamics 01:00:04 Quantum Resistance: Investor Fears & Satoshi's Coins 01:02:29 Quantum Threat Timeline & Migration Planning 01:10:25 Quantum-Resistant Signatures & Scalability Trade-offs 01:11:20 Hard Fork vs. Soft Fork for Quantum Resistance 01:13:08 Consensus, Confiscation Proposals, and Social Risks 01:17:56 Stagnation in Bitcoin Development & Altcoin Innovation 01:23:12 Ethereum's Role in Crypto Ecosystem 01:25:24 Zcash's Dual Incentives & Institutional Recognition 01:28:08 Zcash's Future: Innovation vs. Ossification 01:30:39 Sponsor Plugs: Noones & SideShift 01:33:42 Quantum Resistance Migration: Hard Fork Efficiency 01:37:11 Bitcoin's Future: Security, Consensus, and Upgrades 01:43:09 Bull Markets, Technological Breakthroughs, and Lightning 01:45:18 Lightning's Shift to B2B & Retail Challenges 01:47:02 Bitcoin Treasury Companies & Business Models 01:49:18 Seinfeld Analogy & Bitcoin's Societal Impact 01:52:11 Magic Wand: Abdel's One Change for Bitcoin 01:54:03 Legitimate Altcoins & Project Criteria 01:57:16 Monero, Kaspa, Litecoin, and Altcoin Usefulness 02:02:06 ZK-STARKs: Complementary or Standard? 02:06:21 ZK-STARKs for Fast Bitcoin Syncing 02:10:27 Call for Wallet Integration & User Experience 02:14:08 Bull Bitcoin Wallet & Open Source Security 02:22:02 Freedom Tech, Nostr, and ZK for Sovereignty 02:26:02 ZK-STARKs: Career Opportunities & Verification 02:28:41 Outro & Listener Easter Egg

This week, Australia implemented the most aggressive social media ban in a democracy to date, kicking children under 16 off 10 of the most popular social platforms. We discuss how the platforms lost the argument around child safety and whether others will follow Australia's lead. Then, the blogger Andy Masley joins us to separate fact from fiction on the topic of A.I. water use. Is it a distraction from other more pressing environmental concerns? And finally, our first-ever “Hard Fork” Wrapped: We break down our favorite “Hard Fork” stats from 2025 and bring you up to date on three of our biggest stories of the year. Guests:Andy Masley, blogger The Weird Turn Pro Additional Reading: A Grand Social Media Experiment Begins in AustraliaThe A.I. water issue is fakeWhy Is Everyone So Wrong About A.I. Water Use?Trump Signs Executive Order to Neuter State A.I. LawsTrump Clears Sale of More Powerful Nvidia A.I. Chips to ChinaWe Asked Roblox's C.E.O. About Child Safety. It Got Tense. We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

It's A.I. model rollout season in Silicon Valley, and OpenAI appears to be feeling the pressure. Sam Altman, the chief executive of OpenAI, sent a memo to staff on Monday declaring a “code red” effort to improve ChatGPT and delay other initiatives. We explain why the latest frontier models from Google and Anthropic have OpenAI spooked and how the company is reshuffling priorities to respond. Then, we give our honest thoughts on which A.I models we like best and share how we're using A.I. in our day-to-day lives. And finally, we take a look at some of the most popular A.I.-generated content on the internet this week in our latest installment of the Hard Fork Review of Slop.Additional Reading: What OpenAI Did When ChatGPT Users Lost Touch With RealityGoogle Unveils Gemini 3, With Improved Coding and Search AbilitiesTourists Tricked by Fake Royal Christmas MarketDeepfake of North Carolina lawmaker used in award-winning Whirlpool video We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

Last year we debuted Hard Fork's 100 Most Iconic Technologies list, in which we ranked the technologies from across all of history that best define life as we know it. To our surprise, it became one of our most popular episodes ever. So now we're doing it again — with a twist. All year, we've been collecting ideas for the 50 Most Iconic Technologies of 2025, and this week we present them to you, along with our case for why each entry played an important part in defining this year, for better or worse. Additional Reading: Check out last year's list: Hard Fork's 100 Most Iconic Technologies Meet the Artist Who Bedazzled Naomi Osaka's Labubus We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

The DoF crew break down everything: from Ubisoft's endless identity crisis to Unity and Epic's unexpected “Make the Metaverse Great Again” alliance.We get into Roblox CEO David Baszucki's tense appearance on Hard Fork, the baffling randomness of The Game Awards nominations, Saudi Arabia's PIF liquidity challenges, and why Turkey's red-hot gaming scene may finally be overheating.Plus: a disagreement for Nordic tax schemes and a dispatch from Helsinki's Slush Conference, home of the world's most optimistic founders in a country with no economic growth.00:00 Welcome01:52 Slush Conference Insights05:06 Tax Benefits for Expats in Europe08:29 Shills09:24 Ubisoft and Tencent Deal12:28 Epic Games and Unity Partnership18:30 Roblox CEO's Podcast Appearance30:11 Game Awards Nominationss32:19 Most Anticipated Games Discussion34:23 Controversial Mobile Game Nominations39:22 Saudi Arabia's Gaming Investments47:12 Turkey's Booming Gaming Ecosystem54:43 Steam Machines and Market Challenges01:01:51 Concluding Thoughts and Thanksgiving Wishes

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Gemini Pro 3 and Nano Banana Pro push Google into the lead in the race for AGI. Meanwhile, OpenAI isn't far behind with GPT-5.1 Pro & Codex Max. The AI news is relentless! Nano Banana Pro's ability to make infographics and edit images is nearly unprecedented and, combined with Gemini 3's analytical abilities, makes us feel all tingly inside. Web design, vibe coded games, there is so much cool stuff to get into. Plus, OpenAI's updates GPT-5.1 and a cool new tool from Meta called Segment Anything 3. And, of course, who could forget the cutest lil robots. No terminators today folks! TIME TO NANO BANANA OURSELVES INTO OBLIVION. WAIT, THAT SOUNDED BAD. Come to our Discord: https://discord.gg/muD2TYgC8f Join our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/AIForHumansShow AI For Humans Newsletter: https://aiforhumans.beehiiv.com/ Follow us for more on X @AIForHumansShow Join our TikTok @aiforhumansshow Show Links Google Nano Banana Pro https://blog.google/technology/ai/nano-banana-pro/ Gavin's Futurama-style Image https://x.com/gavinpurcell/status/1991525928049230170?s=20 14 Inputs on Nano Banana Pro Image https://x.com/nickfloats/status/1991531506397741156 Sims Expansion Packs https://x.com/sinanhelv/status/1991530277974253871 Rowan Atkinson (Mr. Bean) in Total Recall https://x.com/TomLikesRobots/status/1991548219428663586 Gemini 3 Pro https://youtu.be/98DcoXwGX6I?si=Fwd83wo5vRHPb78d https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-3/#note-from-ceo Demis Hassabis Talks About Trajectory on Hard Fork https://x.com/slow_developer/status/1990998467611705344?s=20 Crazy Gemini 3 Pro benchmarks https://x.com/OfficialLoganK/status/1990813077172822143?s=20 Google AntiGravity  https://x.com/antigravity/status/1990813606217236828?s=20 3js interactive webdesign https://x.com/EHuanglu/status/1990967259775570262?s=20 Huge improvements on DesignArena benchmark: https://x.com/grx_xce/status/1990815340893245481?s=20 Replit's new tool for webdesign powered by Gemini 3.0 https://x.com/amasad/status/1990859423942893816?s=20 Gavin's quick website test https://gemini.google.com/share/a1e8d50a3d69 Bouncing Ball Test https://x.com/OfficialLoganK/status/1990819310072443340?s=20 Voxel Art https://x.com/goodfellow_ian/status/1990839056331337797?s=20 Demis Recreates ThemePark https://x.com/demishassabis/status/1990818894177513831?s=20 Playables on YouTube:  https://x.com/GoogleDeepMind/status/1991192012691808472?s=20 Updating My Bear Jump Game https://x.com/gavinpurcell/status/1990832098131763340?s=20 OpenAI: GPT-5.1 Codex MAX https://x.com/polynoamial/status/1991212955250327768?s=20 https://openai.com/index/gpt-5-1-codex-max/ GPT 5.1 Pro https://x.com/OpenAI/status/1991266192905179613?s=20 Matt Shumer GPT-5.1 Pro Review https://x.com/mattshumer_/status/1991263717820948651?s=20 Meta Segment Anything 3 Playground  https://aidemos.meta.com/segment-anything Sunday Robotic's Memo Robot https://www.sunday.ai/ Gemini 3 Pro 3D Lego Editor https://x.com/skirano/status/1990813093727789486?s=20 Realistic Water Test From MattVideoPro https://x.com/MattVidPro/status/1990880204760252834?s=20 Power Plant Recreation https://x.com/sebkrier/status/1990814567820058641?s=20 Sourcey: Open Source Robot https://x.com/sourccey/status/1990903761187828199  

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This week, Gov. Gavin Newsom of California signed a big package of A.I. and social media bills into law — including the first state law in the United States to regulate A.I. companions. We talk through what stood out to us in the package and whether these protections will work. Then, the subpoena that has the whole tech world talking. Nathan Calvin, general counsel at Encode, an A.I. safety advocacy group that has been critical of OpenAI, talks with us about why he thinks the company is investigating him. And finally, grab your opera glasses. It's time for the first edition of The Hard Fork Review of Slop.Guests:Nathan Calvin, vice president of state affairs and general counsel at EncodeAdditional Reading:California Regulates A.I. CompanionsOpenAI Thinks Its Critics Are Funded by Billionaires. Now It's Going After Them.We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

Spam is legal now — welcome to Bitcoin's moral collapse. On this episode of the Hell Money Podcast, we dive back into the spam wars to break down all the discourse in the wake of Bitcoin Core v30. From Luke Jr's plan to hard fork Bitcoin to Nick Szabo clocking in for the discourse, we cover every twist in the ongoing moral and technical meltdown over filters, Knots, and consensus itself.Get bonus content by subscribing to @hellmoneypod on X: https://x.com/hellmoneypod/creator-subscriptions/subscribeOr support the podcast by sending a BTC donation: bc1qztncp7lmcxdgude4px2vzh72p2yu2aud0eyzys ORDINALS SATSCARDS: https://shop.inscribing.com/products/ordinals-satscardGET YOUR TICKET FOR INSCRIBING MIAMI 2025: https://inscribing.com/TIMESTAMPS0:00 Intro 4:00 Bitcoin Core v30 & the history of the blocksize wars9:00 Spam filters, technical vs. moral argument19:00 Bitcoin core's response22:50 Calle's explanation of spam27:00 Dealing with Knots people on X31:30 Luke Jr's plan to hard fork Bitcoin47:00 Nick Szabo clocking in for the discourse57:30 What is consensus?1:07:00 Are girls allowed in Bitcoin?

A shadowy cabal helps erase Satoshi's identity in a new movie. Will you see it?FEATURING:Victoria Jones (https://x.com/satoshis_page)Thomas Hunt (https://twitter.com/MadBitcoins)THIS WEEK:  ———BREAKING: Leaked messages from Bitcoin Knots developer @LukeDashjr reveal his plans to hardfork Bitcoin and introduce radical levels of centralization via a multisig in order to retroactively censor Bitcoin Ordinals and Runes transactionshttps://twitter.com/ord_io/status/1971330244641788393?s=46Source: Twitter | ord_ioLEAKED: Luke Dashjr Plans Hardfork To “Save Bitcoin”https://www.therage.co/leaked-luke-dashjr-bitcoin-hardfork/Source: The Ragecheck this. the OP used to be a reasonable person who helped uncover the lies of BSV and the constant manipulation of Craig Wright.now he's become everything he once hated: even with evidence presented, he would rather insist it was AI generated (not a single sign for this) than to maybe consider changing his world view.what do you call that kind of behavior again?https://twitter.com/callebtc/status/1971495435769364519?s=46Source: Twitter | Calle BTCMany people have asked Luke directly if the screenshots are real and if these text messages were indeed written by him. He has not denied it.I reviewed the source material independently. I'm absolutely confident it was not manipulated.https://twitter.com/callebtc/status/1971498223140245528?s=46Source: Twitter | Calle BTCNow that the Knots mob has realized how much nasty stuff is already stored on their own holy nodes at home, the narrative now is that there's not-so-bad CSAM (split into multiple tx) and bad CSAM (fits into a single tx). This is what anthropology must feel like.https://twitter.com/callebtc/status/1970464053110939836?s=46Source: Calle BTC—Bitcoin crash wipes $1.7 billion, but analysts still predict a surge to $135,000https://m.economictimes.com/news/international/us/bitcoin-crash-wipes-1-7-billion-but-analysts-still-predict-a-surge-to-135000/articleshow/124159987.cmsSource: M. Economic TimesTrump Admin's $20 Billion ‘Bail Out' for Argentina's Milei Raises Eyebrowshttps://www.newsweek.com/trump-admins-20-billion-bail-out-for-argentinas-milei-raises-eyebrows-10780604Source: News WeekPeso in freefall: US lifeline to Argentina met with Bitcoiners' doubthttps://cointelegraph.com/news/argentina-peso-us-offers-lifeline-bitcoiner-skepticalSource: CointelegraphPete Davidson and Casey Affleck Team Up With Doug Liman on Bitcoin Thriller Film ‘Killing Satoshi' (EXCLUSIVE)https://variety.com/2025/film/news/doug-liman-casey-affleck-pete-davidson-bitcoin-killing-satoshi-1236501408/Source: Variety—-Europe's cookie law messed up the internet. Brussels wants to fix it.https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-cookie-law-messed-up-the-internet-brussels-sets-out-to-fix-it/Source: Politico________________________________________________________________World Crypto Networkhttps://www.worldcryptonetwork.com/On This Day in World Crypto Network Historyhttps://www.worldcryptonetwork.com/onthisday/---------------------------------------------------------------------------Please Subscribe to our Youtube Channelhttps://m.youtube.com/channel/UCR9gdpWisRwnk_k23GsHf

Last week on The Mindtools L&D Podcast, L&D Detective Kevin M Yates joined Ross D and Dr Anna to talk about isolating the impact of training at work. When listening back, Ross G took umbrage at some of the claims made by his Mindtools colleagues and so, this week, we re-litigate! We discuss: Are control groups really worth it? How else can you measure impact? Why Dr Anna thinks learning NEVER leads (directly) to business impact To find out how Mindtools can help you measure the business impact of your learning, despite what Dr Anna says, mindtools.com/services/analyst-insights Ross D also discussed Dr Will Thalheimer's LTEM model. In 'What I Learned This Week', Ross D recommended the Hard Fork podcast. For more from Mindtools and Kineo, visit mindtools.com. There, you'll also find details of our award-winning Content Hub, our Manager Skills Assessment, our Manager Skill Builder and our custom work.  Like the show? You'll LOVE our newsletter! Subscribe to The L&D Dispatch at lddispatch.com Connect with our speakers If you'd like to share your thoughts on this episode, connect with us on LinkedIn: Ross Dickie Dr Anna Barnett Ross Garner  

As an asset, bitcoin has reached global recognition and widespread adoption — however, as a technology, it's still often misunderstood. Listen in as our hosts are joined by Jack Blatchford of FCAT's Blockchain Incubator to explore how the network has quietly progressed, utility has expanded, and development has flourished. Want to learn more? Check out the full report to help stay ahead of the curve and dive into the latest developments, expert insights, and in depth analysis of the technology driving the future of Bitcoin: https://fcatalyst.com/blog/aug2025/the-bitcoin-renaissance-part-two-a-technical-deep-dive   Episode Topics:   [0:00] Intro [1:10] Biweekly News Roundup [11:55] The Bitcoin Renaissance [15:50] SegWit & the Blocksize Wars [17:47] Soft Forks, Hard Forks, & The Bitcoin Community [24:51] About Covenants [28:40] What (Might) Be Next for Bitcoin [33:30] Outro       Stay connected with us beyond the podcast by following FCAT on Instagram, LinkedIn, and X where we share additional insights and updates on all things emerging tech. Whether you're crypto-curious or have a crypto foundation, Fidelity may have your next career opportunity. EXPLORE NOW. Please remember: this podcast is solely for informational and educational purposes and is not investment, tax, legal or insurance advice. Digital assets are speculative and highly volatile and you should conduct thorough research before you invest. To learn more, visit: fcatalyst.com FMR LLC. © 2025 FMR LLC. All rights reserved. Chapters (00:00:00) - Intro(00:01:10) - Biweekly News Roundup(00:11:55) - The Bitcoin Renaissance(00:15:50) - SegWit & the Blocksize Wars(00:17:47) - Soft Forks, Hard Forks, & The Bitcoin Community(00:24:51) - About Covenants(00:28:40) - What (Might) Be Next for Bitcoin(00:33:30) - Outro

This is Casey Newton, founder and editor of Platformer and cohost of the Hard Fork podcast. This is the second episode of my productivity-focused Decoder series I'm doing while Nilay is out on parental leave. Today, I'm talking with Notion cofounder and CEO Ivan Zhao. I've followed Notion for quite some time now — I'm a big fan, and I use Notion as part of my workflow with Platformer. So I was very excited to get Ivan on the show to discuss his philosophy on productivity, how he's grown his company over the last decade, and where he sees the space going in the future.  Links:  Introducing Notion AI for Work | Notion Notion Mail is a minimalist but powerful take on email | Verge Notion's new Q&A feature lets you ask an AI about your notes | Verge Notion takes on AI notetakers with its own transcription feature | TechCrunch The impossible dream of good workplace software | Decoder When AI has better taste than you | Julie Zhuo / The Looking Glass Credits: Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Our producers are Kate Cox and Nick Statt. Our editor is Ursa Wright.  The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week, OpenAI released its much-anticipated flagship model, GPT-5. We break down what we know about the upgrade, drawing from our initial testing and a special news briefing with Sam Altman. Then, we explain why we were underwhelmed by Amazon's new Alexa+, which is powered by generative A.I., and take our feedback to Daniel Rausch, vice president of Alexa and Echo, who helps us understand why powering Alexa with L.L.M. capabilities is a major computer science challenge.Guests:Daniel Rausch, Amazon vice president of Echo and AlexaAdditional reading:OpenAI Aims to Stay Ahead of Rivals With New GPT-5 TechnologyAmazon Unveils Alexa+, Powered by Generative A.I.We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok.Also, you can still get a special-edition “Hard Fork” hat! For a limited time, you'll receive one when you purchase an annual New York Times Audio subscription for the first time (U.S. only). Go to nytimes.com/hardforkhat. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

This is Casey Newton, founder and editor of the Platformer newsletter and cohost of the Hard Fork podcast. I'll be guest hosting the next few episodes of Decoder while Nilay is out on parental leave. For the next three weeks, I'll be talking to leaders in the productivity space about what they're building, and how they can help us get things done.  My guest today: Michael Truell, the CEO of Anysphere, the maker of automated programming platform Cursor AI. I sat down with Michael to talk about his product and how it works, why coding with AI has seen such incredible adoption, and what the future of automated programming really looks like.  Read the full transcript on The Verge. Links:  Anysphere, hailed as fastest growing startup ever, raises $900 Million | Bloomberg AI coding assistant Cursor draws a million users without even trying | Bloomberg Anthropic rehires AI leaders from Anysphere | The Information Cursor apologizes for unclear pricing changes that upset users | TechCrunch OpenAI looked at buying Cursor creator before turning to rival Windsurf | CNBC Interview with Anysphere CEO Michael Truell about coding with AI | Stratechery Credits: Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Our producers are Kate Cox and Nick Statt. Our editor is Ursa Wright.  The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week, we look at the fallout from a sweeping internet age-verification law that went into effect in Britain. We explain why age restrictions are suddenly popping up all over the internet — and how some might create more problems than they solve. Then Matthew Prince, chief executive of Cloudflare, returns to the show to discuss his company's new plan to help publishers fight back against A.I. scrapers and potentially to create a new online marketplace for quality content in the process. Finally, we round up some headlines from around the tech world in the latest round of HatGPT.Guests:Matthew Prince, chief executive of CloudflareAdditional Reading:Supreme Court Upholds Texas Law Limiting Access to PornographyThe U.K.'s age gates are coming to AmericaCloudflare Introduces Default Blocking of A.I. Data ScrapersAlso, you can still get a special-edition “Hard Fork” hat! For a limited time, you'll receive one when you purchase an annual New York Times Audio subscription for the first time. Go to nytimes.com/hardforkhat.We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

On Wednesday, President Trump signed three A.I.-related executive orders, and the White House released “America's A.I. Action Plan.” We break down what's in them, how the federal government intends to target “political bias” in chatbot output, and whether anyone will stand up against it. Then, do we hype up A.I. too much? Are we downplaying potential harms? We reached out to several prominent researchers and writers and asked for their critiques about how we cover A.I. For a limited time, you can get a special-edition “Hard Fork” hat when you purchase an annual New York Times Audio subscription for the first time. Get your hat at nytimes.com/hardforkhatGuests:Brian Merchant, author of the book and newsletter “Blood in the Machine”Alison Gopnik, professor at the University of California, BerkeleyRoss Douthat, New York Times opinion columnist and host of the podcast “Interesting Times”Claire Leibowicz, head of A.I. and media integrity at the Partnership on AIMax Read, author of the newsletter “Read Max”Additional Reading:Trump Plans to Give A.I. Developers a Free HandThe Chatbot Culture Wars Are Here We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok.  Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

This week, we tick through the many dramatic headlines surrounding xAI, including the departure of X's chief executive, Linda Yaccarino; the Grok chatbot spewing antisemitic comments; and the A.I. companion Ani engaging in sexually explicit role-play. Then, we explain why a fight to acquire the start-up Windsurf startled many in Silicon Valley and may reshape the culture in many of the big A.I. labs. And finally, it's “crypto week.” David Yaffe-Bellany explains how crypto provisions in the bills before Congress and the president could affect even people who don't hold digital currencies.Also, we officially have merch! For a limited time, you can get a special-edition “Hard Fork” hat when you purchase an annual New York Times Audio subscription for the first time. Get your hat at nytimes.com/hardforkhatGuests:David Yaffe-Bellany, New York Times technology reporter covering the crypto industryAdditional Reading:Elon Musk's Grok Chatbot Shares Antisemitic Posts on XGoogle Hires A.I. Leaders From a Start-Up Courted by OpenAICognition AI Buys Windsurf as A.I. Frenzy Escalates‘Crypto Week' Is Back on Track After House G.O.P. Quells Conservative RevoltThe ‘Trump Pump': How Crypto Lobbying Won Over a President We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

We're back with part two of Hard Fork Live (see last week's episode for part one). This week, Patrick Collison, Stripe's chief executive, joins us onstage for a wide-ranging conversation about how Silicon Valley could unleash greater progress, from building new housing to curing diseases, and why he believes prestige television is a waste of time. Then, after a quick costume change, Kathryn Zealand, the chief executive of Skip, joins us to talk about her company's robot pants. We test them out live on a StairMaster. Finally, we end the show by taking questions from audience members.Guests:Patrick Collison, Co-founder and C.E.O. of StripeKathryn Zealand, Founder and C.E.O. of Skip We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

The first Hard Fork Live is officially in the books, and for those who couldn't attend, we're playing highlights from the event in this episode and the next. This week, Mayor Daniel Lurie of San Francisco makes a surprise appearance to discuss the advice he's receiving from tech executives during the early days of his administration, as well as how he built a social media presence that's got Kevin wondering: Could we do that? Then, the conversation that had everyone talking: We'll play our interview with OpenAI's chief executive, Sam Altman, and chief operating officer, Brad Lightcap, and explain what was going on in our heads as the conversation unfolded in a way we did not expect. We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

Andrew Camilleri, better known as Kukks, is one of the most prolific contributors to BTCPay Server & an advocate for using bitcoin as money. Recently, he started building Bitcoin Layer 2 applications for Ark Labs & believes in conservative improvements. Time stamps: (00:00:49) Introduction & Andrew's Background (00:01:46) Getting Into Bitcoin & Altcoin Integrations (00:03:02) Focusing on Bitcoin & Monero Plugin (00:04:04) BTCPay Plugins & Community (00:04:22) Bitcoin's Imperfections & Altcoin Use Cases (00:04:55) Pessimism & Stagnation in Bitcoin Development (00:05:16) Introduction to Ark & Its Evolution (00:06:10) Ark's Technical Evolution (00:07:31) Ark's Impact on Developer Morale (00:07:36) What is Ark? (00:09:08) Ark's Virtual Ledger & Dust Problem (00:09:59) Off-Chain Payments & User Experience (00:11:07) Lightning Network vs. Ark (00:13:21) Custodial Lightning & Ark's Broader Goals (00:15:13) Escrow & Multisig Use Cases (00:16:09) Bitcoin's Usability & Fee Volatility (00:16:51) Miners & Second Layer Economics (00:19:08) Drivechains & Network Fragmentation (00:21:38) Rollups, ZK Proofs, and Simplicity (00:25:53) CTV, Musig2, and Soft Forks (00:28:12) OP_CAT, Collider Script, and Efficiency (00:32:38) Cost, Privacy, and Coinjoin (00:36:12) Stablecoins, Payments, and Swapping (00:38:14) Privacy, TumbleBit, and Ark's Superiority (00:41:03) Expiry, Operators, and User Experience (00:44:14) Becoming an Ark Operator (00:47:31) Fedimints, Liquid, and Privacy (00:49:41) Security Against Operator Theft (00:51:31) HODLing, Expiry, and Automation (00:53:37) Payment Finality & Pre-Confirmation (00:57:49) Government Attacks & Decentralization (01:02:51) Ark's User Experience & Wallet Integration (01:05:11) Lightning Interoperability & Partnerships (01:07:48) Arkade OS & Arcade Script (01:13:06) Underrated Use Cases: Escrow & Synthetic Assets (01:18:29) BTCPay Server's Impact & Bitcoin Payment Adoption (01:22:23) Speculation, Regulation, and Medium of Exchange (01:24:20) Litecoin, Extension Blocks, and Privacy (01:26:01) Coinjoin, Amounts, and Privacy Pools (01:29:09) Bitcoin Upgrades, CTV, and Developer Frustration (01:34:27) Soft Fork Politics & Overselling Upgrades (01:41:53) Payments, Credit Cards, and Onboarding (01:44:11) Stablecoins, Speculation, and Fiat Mindset (01:48:48) Taproot Assets, Altcoins, and Control Tokens (01:52:17) Early Bitcoin Days & Escrow (01:54:53) Gaming, Digital Money, and Bitcoin Adoption (01:59:15) Speculative Attack & Fiat Demand (02:00:01) Supercycle Skepticism & Price Predictions (02:02:22) Hard Forks, Big Blockers, and Research Value (02:24:40) NFTs, Ordinals, and Free Market Transactions (02:36:28) BTCPay Plugins & Comparison to LNBits (02:43:14) Zero Conf, RBF, and Payment Risks (02:47:41) Ark's Future: Liquidity & Decentralization (02:49:25) Testing Ark & Reference Wallet (02:51:00) Browser Wars & Internet Evolution (02:56:26) Scaling Bitcoin Payments & Libra Comparison (02:58:10) Tipping, Custodial Wallets, and Ark's SDK (03:02:12) HODL Culture vs. Spending (03:06:07) Optimism, Pessimism, and User Adoption (03:08:13) Lightning's Complexity & Ark's Simplicity (03:11:18) Competition Among Layer 2s (03:14:13) Ark's Launch, Operators, and Liquidity (03:16:08) Ark Operator Incentives & Fee Structure (03:17:08) Testing, Following, and Final Thoughts

This week, we dive into Kevin's recent column about how A.I. is affecting the job market for new graduates, and debate whether the job apocalypse is already here for entry-level work. Then Mike Krieger joins us to discuss the new Claude 4 model, the future of work and the online chatter over whether an A.I. system could blackmail you. And finally, it's time to open up the case files for another round of Hard Fork Crimes Division.Guest:Mike Krieger, chief product officer at AnthropicAdditional Reading:For Some Recent Graduates, the A.I. Job Apocalypse May Already Be HereAnother Suspect Is Charged in Bitcoin Kidnapping and Torture CaseElizabeth Holmes's Partner Has a New Blood-Testing Start-UpWe want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

We're off for Memorial Day weekend, but we're excited to bring you a great episode of the Hard Fork podcast, hosted by journalists Kevin Roose and Casey Newton. In this episode, Kevin and Casey tap actor, comedian and author Ed Helms to answer listeners' questions about their moral quandaries, ethical dilemmas and etiquette questions about technology and discuss his new book on historical blunders.

The actor, comedian and author Ed Helms has a new book out about historical blunders. He swings by Hard Fork to tell us about it and answer your moral quandaries, ethical dilemmas and etiquette questions about technology: How do I tell my mom she can't post about her grandkids on Facebook? Am I being an A.I. hypocrite at work? And is it OK to troll the scammers who blow up my cellphone?Guest:Ed Helms, actor, podcaster and author of “Snafu: The Definitive Guide to History's Greatest Screwups”Additional Reading:Interview: Ed Helms on Historical Snafus and His Reading Life7 Months Inside an Online Scam Labor CampWe want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

This week, with big developments in two antitrust cases against Google, we discuss how the company may be forced to change its business. Then we're joined by the journalist Mark Yarm to discuss his recent visit to an underwater home for his article about techno-utopians who want to colonize the ocean. And finally, it's tool time! We'll tell you about our latest experiments with ChatGPT's o3, Casey's newest journaling practice and Kevin's continued battle to get to inbox zero.Tickets to Hard Fork live are on sale! See us June 24 at SFJAZZ.Guest:Mark Yarm, an executive editor at PCMag and the author of “Everybody Loves Our Town: An Oral History of Grunge.”Additional Reading:Google May Be on the Brink of a BreakupGoogle Is Illegally Monopolizing Online Advertising Tech, Judge RulesThe Techno-Utopians Who Want to Colonize the Sea We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

This week Meta is on trial, in a landmark case over whether it illegally snuffed out competition when it acquired Instagram and WhatsApp. We discuss some of the most surprising revelations from old email messages made public as evidence in the case, and explain why we think the F.T.C.'s argument has gotten weaker in the years since the lawsuit was filed. Then we hear from Princeton computer scientist Arvind Narayanan on why he believes it will take decades, not years, for A.I. to transform society in the ways the big A.I. labs predict. And finally, what do dolphins, Katy Perry and A1 steak sauce have in common? They're all important characters in our latest round of HatGPT. Tickets to Hard Fork live are on sale now! See us June 24 at SFJAZZ. Guest:Arvind Narayanan, director of the Center for Information Technology at Princeton and co-author of “AI Snake Oil: What Artificial Intelligence Can Do, What it Can't, and How to Tell the Difference.” Additional Reading:What if Mark Zuckerberg Had Not Bought Instagram and WhatsApp?AI as Normal TechnologyOne Giant Stunt for Womankind We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

We're joined by Tim Beiko, Ethereum Foundation coordinator, to break down Ethereum's next major upgrades and the future of scaling.We explore the upcoming Petra hard fork, which introduces validator consolidation, increased blob space for rollups, and EIP-7702 for improved account abstraction. Tim also shares insights on Fusaka and Glacier Dam, Ethereum's roadmap for scaling, and how Ethereum's upgrade process is becoming more efficient.------

Kevin reports back from the A.I. Action Summit in Paris, where it was full speed ahead toward artificial general intelligence, with a conspicuous lack of action on the safety front. Also, Happy Valentine's Day! We're taking a look at A.I. on dating apps. First, our producer Rachel Cohn explains what happened when she applied all of the advice from Hinge's new Prompt Feedback tool to her dating profile. Then, we're joined by Hinge's founder and C.E.O., Justin McLeod, to discuss how he thinks A.I. can help users find love. Guests:Rachel Cohn, Hard Fork producer, writer of the newsletter “Are You My Boyfriend?”Justin McLeod, founder and C.E.O. of Hinge Additional Reading:Macron Pitches Lighter Regulation to Fuel A.I. Boom in EuropeVance, in First Foreign Speech, Tells Europe That U.S. Will Dominate A.I.When Cupid Is a Prying Journalist We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

Financial markets went into a panic last week over an obscure Chinese tech start-up called DeepSeek. The company now threatens to upend the world of artificial intelligence and the race for who will dominate it.Kevin Roose, a tech columnist at The Times, discusses how DeepSeek caught us all off guard.Guests: Kevin Roose, a technology columnist for The New York Times and co-host of the Times tech podcast, “Hard Fork.”Background reading: DeepSeek's model has rocked Silicon Valley and upended several fundamental assumptions about A.I. progress.Listen to “Hard Fork”: Your guide to the DeepSeek freakout.For more information on today's episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. Photo: Greg Baker/Agence France-Presse Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

This week, Pat Gelsinger stepped down as chief executive of Intel. We talk with The New York Times's Don Clark about why Gelsinger was ousted, what it means for the chip industry and how his departure could affect national security. Then, Kevin and Casey report back from an artificial intelligence conference, where experts debated how long it would take to build a structure around the sun to capture the star's energy — also known as a Dyson sphere. And finally, gift guides have taken over the internet. We dig into why, and offer up suggestions for gear dads, home cooks and even tech billionaires in our first ever Hard Fork gift guide. Guest:Don Clark, New York Times contributor covering the chips industry.   Additional Reading: Intel CEO Pat Gelsinger Steps Down Amid Chipmaker's StrugglesNvidia Rules A.I. Chips, but Amazon and AMD Emerge as Contenders We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

This week, we're bringing you a Thanksgiving special that's great for a long car ride, a day of cooking or avoiding conversation with your family. We're counting down the 100 most iconic technologies of all time, starting with No. 100: Boats. Our definitive list was carefully crafted using an advanced methodology of vibes-only decision-making. By “iconic,” we mean technologies that have either changed the world, ruined it or at the very least made life a little more interesting. And because we love chaos, we'll explain why we chose each one in roughly 30 seconds or less. Additional Reading:This episode was inspired by the Iconic 400 list compiled by the podcast “Las Culturistas”; check it out. We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.