Podcast appearances and mentions of Lindsey Buckingham

INTRO (00:24): Kathleen opens the show drinking a Staycation Land Brilliant Lager from Baxter Brewing Company in Lewiston, ME.    TOUR NEWS: See Kathleen live on her “Flying Cats & Marching Armadillos Tour.”   TASTING MENU (2:36): Kathleen samples Cabot Creamery Firey Cheddar Popcorn, Al's Backwoods Berrie Company Pineapple Ghost Pepper Bourbon Sauce, and Cape Cod Sweet & Spicy Jalapeno Chips.    QUEEN NEWS (11:33): Kathleen shares that Stevie Nicks is rumored to be reconciling with Lindsey Buckingham, and Meghan Markle has entered a feud with Martha Stewart.   HOLLYWOOD HAPPENINGS (1:02:12): HollyBobby provides the latest news in Hollywood.   UPDATES (24:04): Kathleen reports that the Wizard of Oz's first year at Sphere in Vegas boasted $450M in sales, and Nashville Zoo's data center issues could be solved through an eminent domain vote.   FABULOUS LIVING BY AMY (35:02): Kathleen and her sister-in-law Amy review details to enhance a fabulous lifestyle, including her favorite summer beach hats by Eric Javits, Scala Hat Co, and San Diego Hat Co.    HOLY SHIT THEY FOUND IT (28:33): Kathleen reports on the discovery of a 162-year-old bottle of Guinness discovered by divers in a shipwreck in the English Channel, and a Viking ship has been discovered in Norway.    NEWS (47:12): Kathleen reports that Anna Wintour is being called a bigot over her friendship with John Galliano, Barbie honors Whitney Houston with a collective doll, California bans octopus farming, Colonel Sanders' Kentucky estate is for sale, one snakebite to the vein costs a man $1.3M, Egypt bans camel rides at the Pyramids, the Gordie Howe Bridge opens between Detroit and Canada.   SPORTS NEWS (1:13:04): Kathleen reports that Bills Mafia are voicing concerns after experiencing so many poor sight lines in the new Highmark Stadium, and a former college golfer resigns from Winghaven Country Club after faking a hole-in-one.   SPANISH PHRASE OF THE WEEK (1:23:49): The Spanish phrase to learn this week is “cuánto dinero ganas” or “how much money do you make” in English.    PATRON SAINT OF THE WEEK (1:31:30): Kathleen reads about Saint Gall, the patron saint of birds, geese, poultry, and Switzerland.     FEEL GOOD STORY (1:26:54): Kathleen shares that Mexico has set free 350 captive dolphins after banning dolphin encounters, and Kazakhstan officially began an initiative to reintroduce the Caspian Tiger species back to the Balkhash region. 

The Mac Attack's Mirage Tour concluded in October 1982 and the cranky gentle-rockers were clearly ready for a hiatus. While grandma-haired Lindsey Buckingham and the rest of the Mac sulked, Stevie Nicks made new friends and cranked out The Wild Heart - the energetic follow-up to Bella Donna. Stevie Nicks at her peak here - right before she quit coke and started wearing the Mrs. Doubtfire outfits.

In this episode, I'm taking you behind the music to uncover the incredible story of Fleetwood Mac's legendary album Rumours. It's an album that has sold more than 40 million copies, won Album of the Year, and continues to captivate listeners nearly 50 years after its release—but its creation was anything but smooth. I'll explore how divorces, breakups, and personal heartbreak nearly tore the band apart while somehow inspiring one of the greatest albums in rock history. We'll dive into the stories behind iconic songs like "Dreams," "Go Your Own Way," "The Chain," and "Don't Stop," uncover fascinating behind-the-scenes moments from the recording sessions, and talk about why Rumours still resonates with music fans of every generation. Whether you've loved this album for decades or you're discovering it for the first time, join me as we revisit the chaos, creativity, and timeless music that turned Fleetwood Mac's most difficult chapter into a masterpiece..RUMOURS ALBUM SONGS MENTIONED…Second Hand NewsDreamsNever Going Back AgainDon't StopGo Your Own WaySongbirdThe ChainYou Make Loving FunGold Dust WomanOh DaddyI Don't Want to Know OTHER FLEETWOOD MAC SONGS MENTIONED… RhiannonSay You Love MeOver My HeadLandslideWhat did you think of this episode? Support the showKeep listening, keep grooving, and let the music in you continue to shine.  Thank you, and see you soon!CONTACT TERI:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/terirosborg/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/teri.rosborgYouTube: The Music in MeTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@terirosborgPodcast Facebook Page: The Music in Me Podcast Facebook pageTHEME SONG BY:  Hayley GremardINTRODUCTION BY: Gavin Bruno

1976 was a banner year for music.  Some of the greatest albums of all time were released that year, and Mick & Jeff were there as it happened. This episode, they look at their favourites of the “Class of ‘76” - what was great (and what wasn't!) & why.   In Rock News, the boys check out who's touring, and what aged care arrangements are in place! Their “Album You Must Hear Before You Die” is Paul Simon's “Graceland”, which brought African street music to Western radios and stereos.   A wide-ranging romp through one of music's finest years!  We think you'll love it.   References:  1,001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die, Robert Dimery, The Eagles, Las Vegas Sphere, Journey, Rod Stewart, AC/DC, Motley Crue, Iron Maiden, Deep Purple, Kansas, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Foreigner, Yes, Graceland, Paul Simon, Ladysmith Black Mambazo, South Africa cultural sanctions, Los Lobos, Steve Berlin, The Rolling Stones, Black and Blue,  Jagger/Richards, The Glimmer Twins, Ron Wood, Harvey Mandel, Wayne Perkins, Billy Preston, “Do You Love Me?”, “I'm Black & Blue from The Rolling Stones”, The Modern Lovers, “The Modern Lovers”, John Cale, “Roadrunner”, “Pablo Picasso”, “Jonathan Richman & The Modern Lovers”, Joan Armatrading, “Joan Armatrading”, “Down to Zero”, “Love and Affection”, Dave Mattacks (Fairport Convention), Kenney Jones (Faces), Boz Scaggs, State Theatre Sydney, Silk Degrees, David Paich, Jeff Porcaro, David Hungate, Toto, “What Can I Say?”, “Lowdown”, “Lido Shuffle”, Peter Frampton, Frampton Comes Alive!, "Show Me the Way", "Baby, I Love Your Way", "Do You Feel Like We Do?”, George Harrison , talk box, Boston, “Boston”, Tom Scholz, "More than a feeling”, Fleetwood Mac, “Rumours”, Lindsey Buckingham, Bob Welch, Mick Fleetwood, “Buckingham Nicks”, Lindsey Buckingham, Stevie Nicks, Bob Dylan, “Desire”, “Blood on the Tracks”, “Hurricane”, “Mozambique”, “Joey”, Rolling Thunder Revue, Emmylou Harris, violinist Scarlett Rivera, guitarist Dave Mason, “Hard Rain”, The Saints, (I'm) Stranded, Bob Geldof, Nick Cave, Fatal Records, EMI, Ed Kuepper, “Also Sprach the King of Euro-Disco", “Thus Spake Zarathustra”,  Playlist (all the artists and music we talk about in this episode)The Queen of Pub ChoirsSend us a message, so we know what you're thinking!

The turntable is my alarm clock, it has this thing where you can program it, but it will only play one side of course, and it doesn't switch off after, so I wake up to a few lines by Tears For Fears, or a guitar solo by Lindsey Buckingham, but then I doze again and wake up to the train-rhythm of the needle just butting against the end groove and locked in a loop. I've named the rat Ben. After the song. And because there's just the two of us here, if you must know. Anyway, Ben has been quite useful in one way. He gets me out of bed. I'm up and off, always hopeful to not actually see Ben.I have the alarm set, and so does this mean I have routine? I mean it's the beginnings, right? It's dangerously close, right? It's a pretty good day to be alive too, we are using my car to get as much discounted beer as we can. The student rag posted some special offer, $5 off a dozen, but they forgot to do the limit per customer, or one coupon only or any of that fine print. So my mate Will has done a break-in on the office of the student magazine and got home down the hill with hundreds of copies; when they realised the mistake, they pulled them from circulation, but the store has to honour what they get. We've used a few between us over the last week or so, but today is the final day of the promotion and that fucking bottle store is not going to know what has hit it. We are going to pack beer so deep into the car we will be swimming in it. Will hands the vouchers out in the carpark and one by one, all eight of us go in with a trolley and come out with our arms out in front, boxes of beer heaving. I dialled up some student loan before we got down here for the 10am opening. It's gone straight in, and I'm all set to buy a dozen dozens. That seems the right amount. Should last me several days, at least. It makes each dozen only $10 instead of $15, that's a third off, so it's highly educational too. Packing the wagon is like a game of Tetris. And the guys are all gonna walk back home with me in charge of the precious cargo. I find a park near the town party-flat, and we carry up as many of the bricks of beer as we can in one go. We were gonna head back to finish the job, but just the first run up those stairs proves thirsty work, and besides, we've got enough piss up here now to last a week at least, so what's the harm in cracking a can or two, and anyway it's nearly lunchtime.Well one or two turns into eight or nine before too long, because Jase has this amazing idea for us to do 100 nips of beer in 100 minutes; basically you all get a shot glass and you set up a timer, or just watch the second-hand on the clock, and every 60 seconds you take a shot. A shot of beer is nothing, right? But you can keep drinking in-between times, so you've got a can or two on the go all the time, then you top up your shot every 45 or 50 seconds in anticipation. Tell you what, it fucking comes around quick after the first few. By 20 or 30 shots, we were all starting to feel it. Jase implemented this rule that you were not allowed to leave the room, so you have to hold your piss in and no spewing or anything. Just be a man basically. So we're sitting around this table in the kitchen pouring these shots and downing them and fuck me it starts to hit hard pretty quick. The game is over in less than two hours, and you get a mighty buzz on, all amber glow and lazily in love with what's left of the day. Daz has been visiting the whorehouse up the road. He's quite proud of it. We're all a bit blown away really, that it's even a thing. I mean, we know it's a thing, but you know, we didn't know we'd know someone who frequents the establishment. After his hundred shots, Daz is loose as fuck, and he just lifts his wallet out of his pocket and holds up this card. It says ‘Frequent Flyer: 50% Discount' — and underneath, on the all-pink card, it says, embossed, in italics in a slightly darker pink, The Pink Palace. I am thinking it's some cheap dessert restaurant, but Daz confirms, this is his “whorehouse card.” We're all a bit gobsmacked, but giggling.“Shall we go tonight?”“Um, sure,” I say, because someone has to say something. We've all just had our bluff called big time. Will is looking at the wall. Glen is looking at the beer-can ring he's fitted to his index finger. And John shrugs alongside me, as if it's no big deal. But it's a big deal. Ultimately we leave Daz to it. John saves the day, by mentioning that The Bleeding Hearts & Artists are playing a gig that night in the old warehouse. They're a collective from Dunedin, and I've never seen them.“Eh Daz, save us at least the 50% you get off from when you get off for another time okay!” It doesn't really make sense, but I've said it, and the room is deep enough in fizzed-up fake laughs that this is some knockout punch.Glen is such a fucking dick at the gig, trying to convince us all that the Bleeding Hearts & Artists are not very good. I angrily point out that that is the point. It's experimental, and improvisational, and you get what they serve on the night. And besides, there's absolute fucking heart and complete truth in what they actually give. But Glen is a jazz school dropout who has just enough theory to be good in theory, and knows too many chords to not be annoying. When he can't get his ideas over the line with me that we should all leave in protest, he starts petitioning the group. There's only four of us left in the crumpled-packet end of the evening, but Glen is bugging Will to do a walkout with him, and I have to jump in and say, “Look, fuck, just let those of us enjoying it enjoy it you fucking dick.” And as I say it, I'm thinking I'll probably be getting a call from Glen in the morning to hear all about his feelings on the matter. Yawn. “This is just pretentious shit,” Glen says over the band, but they finish their song, and the burst of applause dies down right as he finishes whisper-shouting ‘pretentious,' so a lot of people actually hear him yelling the word ‘shit.' And fuck it is hilarious. And he ducks down low. And I just let him suffer in that for a bit, until it becomes murky around who said it, and it looks like it could just as easily have been me — so of course we all leave. Speaking of leave, I stumble home up the long and grinding road, leaving the car in town, even with its precious cargo of everyone else's extra beer, and mine. I've got Paul Kelly on the discman, and I've got nothing much on my mind, except for the fact that his concert is coming up soon, and I should go, even if I have to go alone.I get in to my empty rat-nest, and thankgod Ben is away on business, or with his family quietly in the walls, or anywhere else. The turntable still whirring away, and I kinda like its ambience. The stick and click of the needle and arm knocking into that end-groove still. It's been going on 12 hours already, so what's a few more. I'm out. Face down, clothes on.I wake up to the phone ringing. Fucking Glen. Banging on about the dominant Phrygian mode in music, and how The Bleeding Hearts & Artists could take a cue from Paco de Lucia, and Yngwie Malmsteen, and Steve Vai, and Joe Satriani, and though I've heard of them all, I've really only listened to Vai and Satch, and really, that shit was best left at high school. I mean, fucking grow up. So I tell him I'm in a ‘Fridge-ian' mode and hope there's no real queue — meaning I want beer. Straight away. But this joke doesn't really pop across the phone. So I hang up, after telling him I'll be down the hill as soon as I can and we'll refrigerate what's left in the car. Nearly fifty steps up to the gang's flat, just the two of us carrying, so this time it's a few trips. But the rest of the beer is in the two fridges they have, with some extra boxes stacked to the side and ready to go. I've kept a half dozen of my dozens in the back of my car, under the passenger and driver's seats — for emergencies. But I don't need to tell the others that. That's for me to know, and the ambulance and cops to find out, and I snigger to myself and then have to pretend I'm thinking back to last night's big botch with Glen yelling out “Shit” right at the end of one of the best songs. “Holy shit that was embarrassing,” I add.“Yeah mate, but so was that band.”“Oh, fuck off!”“Hey, neither my comment nor their music was as embarrassing as a bunch of us sitting waiting for the whores to come down the stairs at the Pink Palace though, eh? We dodged a bullet there.”“Ha,” I say. Adding, “You hear from Daz at all yet?”“Only to tell me he punched his card.”“I don't get it,” I say.“Some men need pussy,” Glen states. “It makes them feel good about themselves. Like they've conquered something for the day — or, er, night. This is fucked up, but I reckon the ones that visit prostitutes the most never had proper relationships with their mums.”“Hmmm,” is about all I can say to that. And then, “I spoke to my mum last night.”“That's a weird fucking segue,” Glen spits. “I'm just trying to clear my name,” I say, laughing. But Glen doesn't laugh. Perhaps largely because he was with me the whole night, so knows I'm talking complete shit. I haven't talked to my mum in months, on account of how much money I've been chewing through. The student loan, the money they are sending to cover the rent. The petrol vouchers I sneakily cash in for a Cream Egg or Moro Bar, and then pocket the $18-19 in cash that comes back. And I have to write a letter! To the fucking bank manager…Sounds Good! is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.Thanks for reading Sounds Good! ! 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Ian speaks with the great Mike Campbell about his affectation and appreciation for Brian Wilson, growing up with the Beach Boys, working through the loss of Tom Petty, pinch hitting for Lindsey Buckingham, working with the Dirty Knobs, the pleasures of airports, the True Confessions '86 Tour, and much more. LISTEN TO "MISSION OF MERCY" FOLLOW MIKE ON INSTAGRAM

Send us Fan MailIn this episode, we revisit Fleetwood Mac's Tango in the Night, the sleek, polished 1987 album that gave the band one of its biggest late-career comebacks. With hits like “Big Love,” “Little Lies,” “Seven Wonders,” and “Everywhere,” the album wrapped classic Fleetwood Mac drama in a glossy '80s pop sound.We'll talk about the tension behind the scenes, Lindsey Buckingham's major creative role, Christine McVie's perfect pop hooks, Stevie Nicks' presence, and why Tango in the Night still feels like one last dazzling dance from the classic Fleetwood Mac lineup.Support the showBrowse the 33/24 Archives: Check out the backroom!Follow us:InstagramFacebookWatch us on YouTube!

A visually stunning, definitive tribute to rock's most enigmatic, enduring, and stylish icon, Stevie Nicks, written by New York Times bestselling music journalist Annie Zaleski.This beautifully illustrated book goes beyond the glitter and shawls to explore the raw artistry, resilience, and magic that define Stevie Nicks's five-decade career. From singing "Are You Mine" with her grandfather in Phoenix to becoming the first woman inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame twice, Stevie's story is as sweeping and bold as her stage presence. Stevie Nicks in 50 Songs covers it all: her early musical roots, folk and country influences, first guitar at sixteen, and fateful harmony with Lindsey Buckingham on "California Dreamin'"-a moment that launched one of rock's most complicated partnerships. This is not just a music biography. It's a deep dive into Stevie's powerful songwriting and mythmaking. The book analyzes iconic tracks like "Rhiannon," inspired by Welsh mythology, "Landslide," written during a pivotal moment in her relationship with Buckingham, and "Stand Back," created with an uncredited synth assist from Prince. It covers breakout Fleetwood Mac hits like "Dreams" and "Gold Dust Woman," along with cult classics from the Buckingham Nicks era and her solo work, like "Edge of Seventeen." The book also offers surprising insights into her personal life: her friendships, her struggle with addiction, her political engagement, and advocacy work. Nick's unmatched fashion legacy shines through these pages, too. A dedicated section explores her famous shawls and capes, her di Fabrizio boots, the mystical Rumours look, and her real-life wardrobe inspirations. Beyond the music and style, Stevie Nicks in 50 Songs dives into the artist's cultural impact, like her pop mentorship of artists Taylor Swift, Harry Styles, and more.Featuring rare photos, extensive track breakdowns, and revealing quotes, Stevie Nicks in 50 Songs is not just a celebration of a career. It's a celebration of a woman who twirled through heartbreak and fame and emerged bolder than ever.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/arroe-collins-unplugged-totally-uncut--994165/support.

A visually stunning, definitive tribute to rock's most enigmatic, enduring, and stylish icon, Stevie Nicks, written by New York Times bestselling music journalist Annie Zaleski.This beautifully illustrated book goes beyond the glitter and shawls to explore the raw artistry, resilience, and magic that define Stevie Nicks's five-decade career. From singing "Are You Mine" with her grandfather in Phoenix to becoming the first woman inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame twice, Stevie's story is as sweeping and bold as her stage presence. Stevie Nicks in 50 Songs covers it all: her early musical roots, folk and country influences, first guitar at sixteen, and fateful harmony with Lindsey Buckingham on "California Dreamin'"-a moment that launched one of rock's most complicated partnerships. This is not just a music biography. It's a deep dive into Stevie's powerful songwriting and mythmaking. The book analyzes iconic tracks like "Rhiannon," inspired by Welsh mythology, "Landslide," written during a pivotal moment in her relationship with Buckingham, and "Stand Back," created with an uncredited synth assist from Prince. It covers breakout Fleetwood Mac hits like "Dreams" and "Gold Dust Woman," along with cult classics from the Buckingham Nicks era and her solo work, like "Edge of Seventeen." The book also offers surprising insights into her personal life: her friendships, her struggle with addiction, her political engagement, and advocacy work. Nick's unmatched fashion legacy shines through these pages, too. A dedicated section explores her famous shawls and capes, her di Fabrizio boots, the mystical Rumours look, and her real-life wardrobe inspirations. Beyond the music and style, Stevie Nicks in 50 Songs dives into the artist's cultural impact, like her pop mentorship of artists Taylor Swift, Harry Styles, and more.Featuring rare photos, extensive track breakdowns, and revealing quotes, Stevie Nicks in 50 Songs is not just a celebration of a career. It's a celebration of a woman who twirled through heartbreak and fame and emerged bolder than ever.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/arroe-collins-like-it-s-live--4113802/support.

Don and Dude dig into two self-titled records that turned personal identity into radio gold and lifelong fan obsessions. From diva-defining ballads to California soft-rock confessions, the guys trace how these albums relaunch careers, reset expectations, and prove that sometimes the simplest album title hides the messiest feelings.The AlbumsMariah Carey – Mariah Carey (1990)A tightly controlled debut that introduces a once-in-a-generation voice through lush ballads and new jack swing bounce, balancing radio-ready polish with glimpses of the struggling songwriter behind the spotlight.Fleetwood Mac – Fleetwood Mac (1975)A reborn band finds its classic lineup and sound, blending Lindsey Buckingham's urgency, Christine McVie's melodic warmth, and Stevie Nicks' mystical storytelling into a surprisingly cohesive California rock pivot from their blues roots.Diggin' AlbumsKacey Musgraves – Middle of Nowhere (2026)Reflective, rootsy country with spacey edges, full of quiet, late-night songs about isolation and finding yourself again out past the glow of the city.Van Halen – Van Halen (1978)A swaggering, high-voltage hard rock debut that turns Eddie Van Halen's guitar pyrotechnics and David Lee Roth's big personality into one nonstop, party-starting calling card.American Football – American Football (LP4) (2026)Veteran emo craftsmen stretch out with piano, vibraphone, and brass around their signature clean guitars, turning midlife anxiety and emotional scar tissue into slow-burning, late-evening mood pieces.The Haunted Youth – Boys Cry Too (2026)Dreamy indie rock that cranks the guitars and leans into vulnerability, using bittersweet hooks to argue that sadness and softness belong in the story for boys and men, too.Follow & Support Follow the show on Instagram, Facebook, Threads, and Bluesky @albumnerds, and support by subscribing, rating, reviewing, and sharing with another music obsessive who still loves hearing whole albums front to back.“What's in a name? That which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet.” - Juliet in William Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet (1597)

Welcome to Season 05 Episode 5.17- the "Did Ya Miss Me?" edition - of Notes from the Aisle Seat, the podcast featuring news and information about the arts in northern Chautauqua County NY, sponsored by the 1891 Fredonia Opera House. Your host is Tom Loughlin, SUNY Distinguished Teaching Professor and Chair Emeritus of Theatre and Dance at SUNY Fredonia. Guests on this episode include: Ray Bonilla/Turner and Constable; Alison Barry/Commencement Eve Concert; Sgts. Levi Cull and Brian Bean/USAF Heritage Brass Band. Notes from the Aisle Seat is available from most of your favorite podcast sites, as well as on the Opera House YouTube Channel. If you enjoy this podcast, please spread the word through your social media feeds, give us a link on your website, and consider becoming a follower by clicking the "Follow" button in the upper right-hand corner of our home page. If you have an arts event you'd like to publicize, hit us up at operahouse@fredopera.org and let us know what you have! Please give us at least one month's notice to facilitate timely scheduling. Time Stamps (Approximate) Ray Bonilla/Turner and Constable - 2:25 Alison Barry/Commencement Eve RAC - 19:25 Arts Calendar - 35:57 Sgts. Levi Cull and Brian Bean/USAF Heritage Brass Band - 38:32 Artist Links Ray Bonilla - raymondbonilla.com Alison Barry - Rockefeller Arts Center TSgt Levi Cull and TSgt Brian Bean Media "Did You Miss Me?", from the album Did You Miss Me, written and performed by Lindsey Buckingham, 2008, Reprise Records "Puttin' On The Ritz", music and lyrics by Irving Berlin, performed by Taco, from the album After Eight, 1982, Peer Southern Productions "Puttin' On The Ritz", music and lyrics by Irving Berlin, performed by Herb Alpert, music video produced by Herb Alpert Presents LLC, 2013 "Heritage Band Veterans Salute", performed by the Heritage Brass Band, May 2020. Visual and Performing Arts Events @ SUNY Fredonia Box Office at SUNY Fredonia Cathy and Jesse Marion Art Gallery Lake Shore Center for the Arts Main Street Studios Ticket Website SUNY Fredonia School of Music Events WCVF Fredonia WRFA Jamestown   BECOME AN OPERA HOUSE MEMBER!    

The rock group Fleetwood Mac is one of the most well-known and beloved in music history, but it certainly wasn't that way when they started in 1967. Before finding international success with the addition of Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks in 1975, they had numerous personnel changes at the guitarist position. In fact, before Lindsey, they changed guitarists five times in seven years, as they ran the gamut from hardcore British blues to contemporary rock to breezy L.A. soft pop. In his latest article for the Strange Brew, Scott G. Shea tells the story of this magnificent band's development through its guitarists. He describes how they arrived at the band, what they contributed, and why they eventually broke down. If you're interested in discussing the story of Fleetwood Mac, I hope you'll consider inviting Scott G. Shea, a leading music historian and the author of the best-selling book “All the Leaves Are Brown: How the Mamas & the Papas Came Together and Broke Apart,” to your program. Scott can discuss what went wrong with the five guitarists who preceded Lindsey Buckingham and why Buckingham was able to make it work, at least for a little while.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/arroe-collins-unplugged-totally-uncut--994165/support.

The rock group Fleetwood Mac is one of the most well-known and beloved in music history, but it certainly wasn't that way when they started in 1967. Before finding international success with the addition of Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks in 1975, they had numerous personnel changes at the guitarist position. In fact, before Lindsey, they changed guitarists five times in seven years, as they ran the gamut from hardcore British blues to contemporary rock to breezy L.A. soft pop. In his latest article for the Strange Brew, Scott G. Shea tells the story of this magnificent band's development through its guitarists. He describes how they arrived at the band, what they contributed, and why they eventually broke down. If you're interested in discussing the story of Fleetwood Mac, I hope you'll consider inviting Scott G. Shea, a leading music historian and the author of the best-selling book “All the Leaves Are Brown: How the Mamas & the Papas Came Together and Broke Apart,” to your program. Scott can discuss what went wrong with the five guitarists who preceded Lindsey Buckingham and why Buckingham was able to make it work, at least for a little while.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/arroe-collins-like-it-s-live--4113802/support.

INTRO (00:24): Kathleen opens the show drinking a Peach State Lite Lager from Peach State Brewing in Athens, GA. She reviews her week in Augusta, watching the Monday practice round of the Masters tournament.    TOUR NEWS: See Kathleen live on her “Day Drinking Tour.”   TASTING MENU (2:02): Kathleen samples Ritz Toasted Buffalo chips, Skippy + Girl Scouts mashup PB Bites, and Limited Edition Nashville Hot Cheddar Lance crackers.    QUEEN NEWS (8:29): Kathleen shares an update on Taylor Swift's wedding location.   SPANISH PHRASE OF THE WEEK (35:22): The Spanish phrase to learn this week is “a qué hora cierra la cocina?” or “what time does the kitchen close” in English.   HOLLYWOOD HAPPENINGS (16:12): HollyBobby provides the latest news in Hollywood.   WHAT ARE WE WATCHING (39:22): Kathleen recommends watching “Trust Me: The False Prophet” on Netflix.    UPDATES (37:44) : Kathleen shares updates on Lindsey Buckingham's stalker, Britney Spears checks into rehab, Waymo's Nashville launch encounters many issues, Prince Harry is being sued by his own charity,    SPORTS NEWS (50:42): Kathleen reviews the 2026 Masters Tournament influencer culture, and Tom Watson calls for a lifetime ban on PGA players who left to join LIV golf.    FRONT PAGE PUB NEWS (1:10:36): Kathleen shares articles on Philly's reaction to Uber Eats delivery robots, Billy Idol makes an appearance at Coachella and Coachella is taken over by influencers, Lynyrd Skynyrd announces a new tour, Marriott swaps their 35-year relationship with Pepsi for Coca Cola, and Detroit offers new residents financial incentives to relocate there.   SAINT OF THE WEEK (1:27:25): Kathleen reads about Saint Vincent of Saragossa, the patron saint of vintners.    FEEL GOOD STORY (1:23:36): Kathleen shares a story about the world's oldest gorilla celebrating her birthday in the Berlin zoo. 

INTRO (00:24): Kathleen opens the show drinking a No Jacket Required Czech Style Pilsner from Savannah River Brewing Company in Augusta, GA. She reviews her weekend in Philadelphia and Augusta, GA for the Masters.    TOUR NEWS: See Kathleen live on her “Day Drinking Tour.”   TASTING MENU (2:44): Kathleen samples Prawn Tayto's, Masters Potato Chips, and the new Masters Candy Bar.    SPANISH PHRASE OF THE WEEK (1:16:28): The Spanish phrase to learn this week is “el bar sirve comida?” which translates to “does the bar serve food.”   HOLLYWOOD HAPPENINGS (22:15): HollyBobby provides the latest news in Hollywood.   QUEEN NEWS (16:00: Kathleen shares updates on Stevie Nicks' reported new “Ghost Record,” and Dolly Parton has a mic-drop quote for the director of Steel Magnolias.    UPDATES (31:29 : Kathleen shares updates on Britain's Chief Mouser Larry the Cat, Tucson's Sheriff Nanos is under fire again, more info is uncovered about Banksy's personal life,    FRONT PAGE PUB NEWS (1:13:33): Kathleen shares articles on Lindsey Buckingham's recent attack by a stalker, Celine Dion announces a Paris residency, Jessica Lange teases the next season of American Horror Story, Texas announces plans to utilize air taxis, Prince World is opening at the Mall of America, the Canadian Mint is releasing a glow-in-the-dark coin, some Mount Everest guilds are accused of poisoning climbers and collecting insurance money, demand for exorcisms is on the rise, and Chicago implements a new tourism fee.    SPORTS NEWS (45:55): Kathleen reviews words and phrases that broadcasters are forbidden to say on the official Masters golf broadcasts, the Utah Mammoth NHL team unveil their new Zammoth zamboni, and the NFL announces that you'll need TEN different subscriptions to watch all of the 2026 NFL season.    HOLY SHIT THEY FOUND IT (42:135): Kathleen reads about a 2,500 year-old golden helmet recovered in Romania after it was stolen last year in a heist in the Netherlands, and Alexander the Great's long-lost city has been located.    FEEL GOOD STORY (1:37:41): Kathleen shares a story about a Netherlands supermarket chain offering chat checkouts where people can spend extra time talking to cashiers to help reduce loneliness. 

Trash Pandas, it's time for another catch up with some of our favorite TD alums. In the Dumpster this week, Alicia celebrates the upcoming SIX The Movie, coming to America and Canada in August; wonders aloud why celebrities can't take an Uber instead of flipping their cars or otherwise dealing with DUI-related fallout, notes a changed landscape in the lawsuit against Justin Baldoni, talks parenting a la Gavin Rossdale and Gwen Stefani, correlates sexism with the #tradwife movement, and has a Lindsey Buckingham story where he's decidedly not the bad guy. Sponsors For a limited time, get 60% off your first order, plus free shipping and free treats for life, when you head to ⁠Smalls.com/TRASHY⁠. Want early, ad-free episodes, regular Dumpster Dives, bonus divorces, limited series, Zoom hangouts, and more? Join us at patreon.com/trashydivorces! Want a personalized message for someone in your life? Check us out on Cameo! To advertise on our podcast, please reach out to info@amplitudemediapartners.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Fleetwood Mac Legend Lindsey Buckingham's Suspected Stalker Charged After Street Attack with 'Unknown Substance'Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Maureen and Jim discussed the recent attack of Lindsey Buckingham (of Fleetwood Mac) by a stalker who has been harassing him and Stevie Nicks for years.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Fleetwood Mac’s mid-’70s merger with the musical duo of Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks changed the course of the band forever, propelling them to Top 40 mega-fame and cocaine-fueled excess. At the core of it all were rampant Rumours — both the album and the literal gossip. Breakups, divorce, drama: the same intra-band personal dynamics that stressed the group simultaneously led to the creation of one of the top-selling albums of all time. For Fleetwood Mac, Rumours was how the truth came out. And over 40 years later, there’s still a lot that needs clearing up. To see the full list of contributors, see the show notes at ⁠www.disgracelandpod.com⁠. This episode was originally published on September 21, 2021. To listen to Disgraceland ad free and get access to a monthly exclusive episode, weekly bonus content and more, become a Disgraceland All Access member at ⁠disgracelandpod.com/membership⁠. Sign up for our newsletter and get the inside dirt on events, merch and other awesomeness - ⁠GET THE NEWSLETTER⁠ Follow Jake and DISGRACELAND: ⁠Instagram⁠ ⁠YouTube⁠ ⁠X⁠ (formerly Twitter) ⁠Facebook Fan Group⁠ ⁠TikTokSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hour 1: We want to take on your problems! Email us for advice: Badadvice973@gmail.com. Vinnie says hitting rock bottom means there's only one way to go! Let's talk about Survivor! Why are people mad at MrBeast? Upon further resourch, we're not sure. Artemis II is paving the way to return humans to the moon. Plus, the bathroom is fixed! The 5th dimension and dark matter - we don't get it! A Star Wars fast fact you probably haven't heard! We've peaked! Unfortunately. Hour 2: Let's give some bad advice! First up, a mom is facing a lice crisis - but is she being too vain to truly solve the problem? Then, the gang is torn on how to handle an overbearing boyfriend with his girlfriend's location. What's still in your room at your parents house? Is ‘The Giving Tree' about a toxic relationship? Travel pet peeves - we all have them. Are they justified? Hour 3: Super Mario Bros had a record breaking opening day… on a Wednesday! Zendaya and Robert Pattinson star in ‘The Drama' and the tag line is enticing Bob to go see it this weekend. Khloe Kardashian is opening up BIG TIME about Lamar Odom in a new documentary. Body cam footage from Tiger Woods' arrest is shocking. An update on the woman who assaulted Lindsey Buckingham. Plus, if you're looking for a new book series, Sarah's got you! Seth Macfarlane agrees! March Madness Final 4 starts tomorrow. Is the future of Meta AI glasses going to help the sightless? An emerging food trend: Sushi roll push up pops. How much money do we need to retire? Hour 4: Olivia Rodrigo announced her 3rd studio album! Pooh Shiesty is in trouble for a “business meeting” gone wrong. Sarah has ANOTHER story about AI. What does Better Than Ezra have to do with it? A tree fell on the chicken coop! Bob's telling us what's going on this weekend in The Bay. Plus, When Did That Happen?!

Super Mario Bros had a record breaking opening day… on a Wednesday! Zendaya and Robert Pattinson star in ‘The Drama' and the tag line is enticing Bob to go see it this weekend. Khloe Kardashian is opening up BIG TIME about Lamar Odom in a new documentary. Body cam footage from Tiger Woods' arrest is shocking. An update on the woman who assaulted Lindsey Buckingham. Plus, if you're looking for a new book series, Sarah's got you! Seth Macfarlane agrees! March Madness Final 4 starts tomorrow. Is the future of Meta AI glasses going to help the sightless? An emerging food trend: Sushi roll push up pops. How much money do we need to retire?

U2 DroGary Graff: U2 Drops Surprise EP While Taylor Swift Faces ‘Showgirl' Suit and Lindsey Buckingham Survives Stalker Attack by 102.9 The Hog

Shocking Attack: Fleetwood Mac Legend Lindsey Buckingham, 76, Doused with Unknown Substance by 'Stalker' Who Claimed 'He's My Father'Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Oprah Winfrey's mean streak, Tiger Woods loves pills, Artemis II to the moon, Lamar Odom makes Khloe Kardashian look good, a new Bonerline, Maz loves the Kennedys, and boxer Deontay Wilder's crazy story about impregnating his girlfriend. Artemis II is launching into space to visit the dark side of the moon. We don't want to hear about any signs of life unless it's The Great Gazoo Donald Trump is addressing the nation on TV tonight to assure everyone that everything is fine. Congress has allegedly made a deal to fund DHS. Tyler Perry tried to fund the TSA, but buzzkills are making agents return his gift cards. Tiger Woods had pills on him during his most recent traffic crash. He failed his sobriety test, but at least he's making money because the polo he was wearing sold out. For some reason The View defended Tiger Woods. A brand new Bonerline. Kristie Noem's husband and his hot pants are the talk of the town in Washington. She now has the excuse to be out in the open with Corey Lewandowski. Lindsey Buckingham was attacked in LA by his stalker. Megan Thee Stallion had to be rushed to the hospital in the middle of her Broadway show.... because she was tired. DTF St Louis on HBO features too much penis. Untold: The Death & Life of Lamar Odom is on Netflix. He seems like a real selfish jerk. Maz joins us after a Detroit Tigers loss, mourns the death of Ambrosia founder Christopher North, calls the Detroit Lions cheap, questions Tom Izzo's flirtation with the Phoenix Suns, Michigan PG Elliot Cadieux gets food poisoning, making the cover of the Hudson Dispatch, Love Story: JFK Jr, and his own personal Carolyn Bessette. We check Oprah Winfrey's Who's Dated Who because we cannot think of any other man she's dated. Drew digs up more Oprah stories from the Kitty Kelly unauthorized biography. Boxer Deontay Wilder tells Piers Morgan a wild story about how his first baby momma tricked him and got pregnant. Merch Madness! Buy it before it's gone or miss out forever. If you'd like to help support the show… consider subscribing to our YouTube Channel, Facebook, Instagram and Twitter (Drew Lane, Marc Fellhauer, Trudi Daniels, Jim Bentley and BranDon)

Artemis lifts off as NASA takes four astronauts around the moon. Greg criticizes the mission for not landing on the moon, because they are there anyway. Ex-Fleetwood Mac member Lindsey Buckingham is attacked by a stalker. Trump gives us more info about the status, and eventual end, to the war in Iran. LeAnn Rimes is back with another weird physical therapy video, and Speedy tries the procedure on Greg. Rick shows us the "perfect stretch." Find more at http://www.RickBurgessShow.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hour 1: Bob's Movie Club Presents: Project Hail Mary! Andy Weir wrote an incredible book, and it makes a phenomenal movie! Sarah and Vinnie and the gang are discussing everything they loved about Ryan Gosling's new blockbuster hit and how it compared to the book. Amaze Amaze Amaze! In other space news, Artemis II's successful launch marks a historic moon mission. Did the moon landing even happen? The earthquake this morning sure did! Smoking in the bathroom is way easier these days for the teens but not for the toilets. Hour 2: Olaf fell into trouble at Disneyland Japan. Tiger Woods is leaving the country for rehab. Sarah and Vinnie have their official opinions on the Bravo drama of the week. Follow us on instagram! @Alice973! Sarah tells us more about horse college. Remember these things you thought were going to be such a big deal? Like what's going on with the Bermuda Triangle these days? Hour 3: What the heck is microneedling? Should we get it? Lindsey Buckingham is dealing with a stalker. Sarah is complaining about sex scenes about body horror. Sudoku packing might make your next trip lighter. There's major Reese's cup news! Then, Sarah, Matty, and Bob make fun of Vinnie. Hour 4: Let's make fun of Vinnie a little bit more. It turns out Megan Thee Stallion needed an IV and a nap. Weezer has their first new song since 2022, but we aren't sure if it's finished yet. Sarah has updates on Taylor Swift's wedding… supposedly. 1 in 3 Americans are age preventers. Is Matty one of them? House rules! Don't be stingy with your I Love Yous. Plus, How Old Is That Guy?

What the heck is micro needling? Should we get it? Lindsey Buckingham is dealing with a stalker. Sarah is complaining about sex scenes about body horror. Sudoku packing might make your next trip lighter. There's major Reese's cup news! Then, Sarah, Matty, and Bob make fun of Vinnie.

Artemis II lifts off for historic return to the moon; Woman attacks Lindsey Buckingham with unknown substance; Chef Sheldon Simeon shares easy everyday recipes from new cookbook Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On today's MJ Morning Show:Mylar balloons vs power linesMorons in the newsRichard Hatch still facing IRS debtMJ mailbagFester's latest "scam"Burger King Bobby wants to go to dinner with FesterUsing the name "Jessica" on your kidsIs mayonnaise a musical instrument?Caller wants to thank MJ Guy has issue with the order machine at Wendy's Follow-up: Hershey's returning to original ingredientsResearch on microplastics while wearing lab gloves skews resultsRelationship stories: Where do you sit at a half/half booth? Guy sent nudes to gf, what did she do after they broke up? Sending Jehovah's Witnesses to ex's... repeatedlyGoogle now allows gmail addressed to be changedCEO of Five Guys gave out $1.5 million in staff bonuses so he wouldn't get shot Lindsey Buckingham attacked with unknown liquid by 'stalker'Goodwill is being filled with coffee makersRecall - Home Depot recalls 10.2 million grill brushesJetBlue raising their checked baggage fee because of high fuel picesAsk Reddit: How common are swingers? We took calls about the local swinger scene.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Megan Thee Stallion was diagnosed with extreme exhaustion when she collapsed during her Broadway show, a stalker doused Lindsey Buckingham with an unknown substance and stuff we would like at the front of stores instead of the back. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

On this episode, we break down NASA's historic Artemis II moon launch, the wild Kristi Noem scandal involving leaked reports about her husband and the political fallout around it, and President Trump's planned address on Iran as he signals the war may be winding down. Plus, the Supreme Court hears arguments over birthright citizenship, Hershey backs off changes to Reese's, Lindsey Buckingham is attacked by a suspected stalker, the 2026 James Beard finalists are revealed, and Summer House gets hit with a Bravo relationship bombshell messy enough to feed reality TV for weeks.#ArtemisII #KristiNoem #IranGet more AoA and become a member to get exclusive access to perks:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOfx0OFE-uMTmJXGPpP7elQ/joinGet Erin C's book here: https://amzn.to/3ITDoO7Get Merch here - https://bit.ly/AnthonyMerchSubscribe to the Anthony On Air Podcast here:Facebook - https://bit.ly/AntOnAirFBYouTube - https://bit.ly/AntOnAirYTApple Podcast - https://bit.ly/AntOnAirAppleSpotify - https://bit.ly/AntOnAirSpotTwitter - https://bit.ly/AntOnAirTwitterInstagram - https://bit.ly/AntOnAirInstaTikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@anthonyonairpodDiscord - https://discord.gg/78V469aV22Get more at https://www.AnthonyOnAir.com

Fleetwood Mac's Lindsey Buckingham has a real problem with a female stalker!

INTRO (00:00): Kathleen opens the show drinking a Savannah Banana “Banana Beer” from Service Brewing Company. She reviews her weekend doing shows in LA, watching MLB Opening Day at her favorite LA bar and hanging out with HollyBobby in Anaheim.    TOUR NEWS: See Kathleen live on her “Day Drinking Tour.”   TASTING MENU (2:04): Kathleen samples Trader Joe's Chile Lime Pork Rinds, South Bend Chocolate Company Irish Cream Crunch, and Goldfish Spicy Dill Pickle Crisps.    SPANISH PHRASE OF THE WEEK (11:15): The Spanish phrase to learn this week is “donde esta la barra” which translates to “where is the bar.”   HOLLYWOOD HAPPENINGS (15:20): HollyBobby provides the latest news in Hollywood.   QUEEN NEWS (40:20): Kathleen shares updates on Martha Stewart's boyfriend criteria, Stevie Nicks has not acknowledged Lindsey Buckingham's reunion rumors, Cher is rumored to portray Lilyth in Season 13 of American Horror Story,    UPDATES (46:05) : Kathleen shares updates that Peachy the flamingo is back at the Flamingo Las Vegas wildlife habitat, Prince harry hopes for “family time” with King Charles while in the UK this summer, and Punch the monkey has paired with an older girlfriend.    FRONT PAGE PUB NEWS (1:00:32): Kathleen shares articles on squirrels becoming addicted to vape pens, the Los Angeles Angels have promoted a woman to be their next President, United Airlines is considering a “twilight bag drop” program and introducing a “relaxed row” seating program, Tiger Woods breaks his silence after his latest DUI arrest, Alberta's legendary “Boss” bear has officially been spotted out of hibernation in Banff, the NBA approves exploration of expansion in Seattle and Vegas, 2 Las Vegas hotels are offering all-inclusive pricing, and a Charlie Daniels hologram concert will headline the July 4th celebration in Fort Campbell.   HOLY SHIT THEY FOUND IT (54:56): Kathleen reads about a rare and ancient megalodon shark tooth found by a teen in ocean off of the Florida Keys.    WHAT ARE WE WATCHING: Kathleen recommends watching “The Madison” on Paramount+.    SAINT OF THE WEEK (1:17:00): Kathleen shares the history of Saint Lawrence, the patron saint of Comedians.    FEEL GOOD STORY (1:21:36): Kathleen shares a story about 7 dogs who escaped a Chinese slaughter house and returned home, and a Dutch Café introduces a “Brownies & Downies” work program for people with Down's Syndrome.     

Rush gave their first public performance with drummer Anika Nilles during Canada's Juno Awards, Something seems to be in the works that would involve Lindsey Buckingham reconnecting with Stevie Nicks and/or Fleetwood Mac, Black label Society debut live performance of 'Ozzy's Song', more in today's 'Rock News'See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Rush gave their first public performance with drummer Anika Nilles during Canada's Juno Awards, Something seems to be in the works that would involve Lindsey Buckingham reconnecting with Stevie Nicks and/or Fleetwood Mac, Black label Society debut live performance of 'Ozzy's Song', more in today's 'Rock News'

This week, Jodie and Red are joined by Jason Alme, to go through some Classic Rock!!Can a song that was made famous by 1 misheard lyric that you thought was an original, but turns out it was a cover, beat a song that was famous for being ONLY used in road trip movies?? YOU be the JUDGE!!!Bruce Springsteen - Blinded by the LightVSLindsey Buckingham - Holiday RoadSubscribe to Alme's show on YOUTUBE.Vote via ⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠Discord OR under the episode description on Spotify.Join the ⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠Join the ⁠Discord⁠

In this episode of Car Con Carne, James VanOsdol welcomes Josh Chicoine, the creative force behind Cult Canyon, to discuss the release of the debut album, Smoke Tricks. The conversation delves into the evolution of Josh's musical projects, from the raw energy of the M's and the acoustic harmonies of Cloudbirds to the collaborative and sophisticated sound of Cult Canyon. Key Highlights: The Making of Smoke Tricks: Josh explains how the album, initially inspired by string arrangements recorded in 2019, was brought to life through a grant from the Department of Cultural Affairs and Special Events (DCASE). Creative Collaborations: The album features contributions from talented musicians like Alison Chesley, Susan Voelz, and Dave Max Crawford, as well as backup vocals from Melissa Busch-Wolford and Lindsay Weinberg. DIY Spirit: Josh shares his experiences with the DIY approach to music, from producing and promoting records to filming music videos with a GoPro and a vintage VHS filter. The Influence of Chicago: The city of Chicago serves as a backdrop for the album, with Josh reflecting on his relationship with the city and the local music scene. Second Hand News: Josh and James discuss his involvement in the Fleetwood Mac tribute band, Second Hand News, and the transgenerational appeal of the legendary band's music. Album Information: Item Details Artist Cult Canyon Album Title Smoke Tricks Release Date March 13, 2026 Label Rattleback Records Release Show The Hideout, March 14, 2026 This episode is brought to you by Exploding House Printing. Based in Hermosa, they specialize in screen printing, embroidery, and custom merch for bands and brands. Visit explodinghouseprinting.com for a quote. Episode Transcript (Note: Auto-generated transcript; errors are possible) James VanOsdol: This right here is Car Con Carne. Car Con Carne is a Q101 podcast. I'm James VanOsdol. Car Con Carne is brought to you by Exploding House Printing. They’re based in Hermosa and they specialize in screen printing, embroidery, and custom merch for bands and brands. Check them out on explodinghouseprinting.com. Get a quote, see all the people, businesses, bands, and brands that they’ve worked with. Explodinghouseprinting.com. (Theme song plays) James VanOsdol: So, after the Golden Line EP a few years ago, Cult Canyon is set to release its debut album, Smoke Tricks, on March 13th. The album will be released on lovely vinyl via Rattleback Records and the release will be celebrated with a live show at The Hideout the following night. Josh Chicoine, whose creative resume is deep, impressive, and familiar, joins me in the car on a rainy, dreary, just kind of shitty transitional winter-into-spring night. Josh Chicoine: Muck, winter mix. James VanOsdol: Let’s talk about Cult Canyon. We’re here, the album’s almost out as we’re sitting here talking about it. Josh Chicoine: It is. James VanOsdol: A lot of us came to know you from your time with the M’s earlier this century. Have you metaphorically moved from the garage to the living room with these projects? Josh Chicoine: It feels like I have. I mean, there was definitely a lot of garage influences happening with the M's. Certainly a DIY spirit. James VanOsdol: That kind of raw immediacy. Josh Chicoine: Yeah, I think we were trying to—well, it was of the time too. So this was the early 2000s, there was a lot of that stuff rolling around. And we kind of fit into that mix and just wanted to bring our own little flavor, which is heavily melodic, a lot of singing, a lot of gang vocals, which is one of my favorite things to do. And still, I guess, pop ethos, you know? Major and minor chords, nothing crazy. But yeah, we got done with that and I started a three-piece singing group called Cloudbirds and did that for about three years with a couple of guys that were in the M’s also, Joey King and Glenn Russell. And that was definitely in the living room. That was acoustic guitars, sometimes we had electric, but mostly acoustic music and three-part harmonies and very folky. And it was a real welcome relief, I’d say, to almost 10 years of loud guitars and bashing drums and shouting vocals. James VanOsdol: You weren’t pounding kids anymore. Josh Chicoine: We were not. We were not, and we kind of got started late anyway. So by the time 2009 rolled around, I was probably in my mid-30s, early 30s, everybody was kind of getting into their 30s. So being on the road was just awful. I think I was about ready to have my first child. And so yeah, the whole kind of idea shifted. And so we just couldn’t sustain that. So being in a singing group and just three guys, a lot easier to organize practices and singing some sweet melodies and harmonies, and that was more my style. And I kind of chased that for a little while, and then I had a new band called Sabres and I tried to do the rock thing again in 2014 and self-released that record, put a lot of time into that record. And it was another big record. And I found out I was just really tired. The DIY thing is that you have to do it yourself. So that means producing the record, promoting the record, getting all the artwork together, getting five people—now more grown people—to get together for any rehearsal, any show. I thought it was going to maybe be a bit easier, but it just wasn't. It wasn't easy, so I had to put that down. James VanOsdol: DIY is hard. We’re doing DIY right now in a car on urban radio in 2026. I do it in my car with a couple of cheap—see how the world has shifted for us both. Josh Chicoine: It has. I might say for the better. James VanOsdol: One would argue or could argue that, yeah. We’re our own bosses. Josh Chicoine: I think so. Yeah, there you go. James VanOsdol: You’re the CEO of Cult Canyon. Josh Chicoine: I am the CEO of Cult Canyon. I have a lot of contributors and collaborators, which I’m very thankful for. James VanOsdol: Let’s talk about some of them. Alison Chesley is a contributor. Josh Chicoine: She is. She is actually appearing on the latest record. To go back to the Golden Line EP in 2019, so right before COVID, I released an EP called Josh Chicoine and it was called Dream Believers. And I was imagining this trajectory where the next bunch of songs would include a string quartet. And so in 2019, early 2019, I recorded three songs including with Susan Voelz, who’s a good friend also. James VanOsdol: She’s delightful. Josh Chicoine: Yeah, she’s delightful, she’s an old friend, she’s a great contributor, what a great spirit. And with her and a few other string players. And then COVID came, so I sat on this thing. And I sat on this thing for quite a while because part of the DIY situation that we’re in now is that there’s so much noise and there’s so many competing avenues for attention, including your couch doing nothing. That’s a big one. James VanOsdol: Yeah. Josh Chicoine: Yeah, so I sat on it and I didn’t know what I was going to do. And so I applied for a grant. It was really the Department of Cultural Affairs and Special Events here in Chicago, they have an individual artist program, DCASE. James VanOsdol: DCASE. Shout out to DCASE. Josh Chicoine: They have a grant program every year, and I applied and I said, you know, I’m coming back into making things and this is what I want to do. I want to make a rock record in the city of Chicago using Chicago musicians out of Chicago studios. And that was really the kind of impetus to be like, okay, what do I want this Cult Canyon thing to be? And so that’s when I looked back at those Golden Line songs, which are really lush string arrangements done by our good friend Dave Max Crawford of Poi Dog Pondering and the Total Pro Horns. And he does a fantastic job. I’ve been collaborating with him since the M’s, he did a lot of those string arrangements and horn arrangements and stuff, so he’s really adept and really tasteful. And so I was just like, why not bring it into everything that I’m doing and make Cult Canyon more of a catch-all and a place where, for one, I can do what I want and I can do it with others that I want to do it with, people that I love. And yeah, Alison Chesley, I met her through Susan because playing with quartets, you end up having a large stable of artists because people are busy or they want more money than you want to give them or can give them on any given night. So I was able to meet and reach out to a bunch of string players and continually find new ones in town that can fill a role for a time. And happily, Alison is on this record on a tune called Good Bad Habits. James VanOsdol: I love it. And the album sounds great. Now, we’re recording this right before it comes out, like I said. The album is Smoke Tricks. We’ve had—we, the public—have experienced some of it already. Real Sublime is a single. You shot a video for this one. Josh Chicoine: I did. James VanOsdol: Was that your house you shot it in? Josh Chicoine: That was at my house, yeah. James VanOsdol: Very tastefully appointed. Josh Chicoine: Thank you. That’s all due to my wife. James VanOsdol: You’ve got you in a convertible on the lakefront. Josh Chicoine: That’s my buddy Al’s ‘67 Oldsmobile. James VanOsdol: That’s badass. Josh Chicoine: Pretty badass. We all need a buddy like Al. Al’s the best. James VanOsdol: Convertible on the drive, clearly different time of year from when we’re recording this. Josh Chicoine: Yeah. James VanOsdol: And is that the lake you jumped into or did you shoot that— Josh Chicoine: Yeah, jumped into the lake. Another good friend of mine is a Great Lake jumper, Dan O’Conor. James VanOsdol: He’s a celebrated Great Lake jumper. Josh Chicoine: They continually celebrate Great Lake jumper. I think he did it for five years straight every day. And yeah, so I started going out there and doing that. So it wasn’t so far afield to imagine, because what are videos now? I don’t even know what they are. But for this one, it was like, all right, Al, let’s get in a car, let’s drive around. I got this GoPro, I’ll stick it to your car, drive around, and then let’s go to the lake and let’s jump in the lake. James VanOsdol: So it doesn’t necessarily tie back to the lyrics or the theme? Josh Chicoine: I don’t think so. I mean, but maybe somebody sees something that I don’t. I think that’s part of my MO, at least, is to leave enough fog to allow for some interpretation. But yeah, this is more of kind of a performance, roll around, get some good footage, put a 1989 VHS filter on it and make it look cool and get it out. James VanOsdol: And you’re a fan of film and what can be done with movies. Josh Chicoine: Yeah, for sure. I mean, I love film, I love movies, I love music movies. For eight years I was the co-founder and director of the Chicago International Movies and Music Festival. And we were all over the place throughout the city. And we would show movies from all over the world, like 33 countries usually were represented each year. And that was just, for me, was fascinating to figure out how to build something like that that could last and to raise money for it, you know, practicing all these adult skills that being in a van in a band on tour you’re not really practicing too much. James VanOsdol: Do you miss doing CIMMfest? Josh Chicoine: There’s a lot of it that I do. I really miss just the people and the spirit. I mean, we had an incredible group of volunteers that would come every year and really they were the ones that were able to activate this thing. And so I loved sitting around and dreaming, I loved building marketing materials, if only because then I could have something to go and take to people that I knew and a network that I was building. And I thought it was really a cool thing for the city and it really got me in touch with a lot of old friends and made so many new friends and it kept me—this was right after the M’s, and the M’s were kind of media darlings and played a lot of shows and, you know, I knew a lot of club owners and I knew publicists and I knew all that network. So it kind of allowed me personally to stay connected to that world. And coming out of there, that’s what my kind of career goals were. I was just like, okay, I want to stay in this world, I want to stay connected to these people. So it was my friend Ilko Davidov, who’s a Bulgarian filmmaker, and it was his concept. And I was just sort of the right person that was able to come and hoodwink a bunch of people into coming on board and giving me a bunch of money and being able to try to make this thing into a sustainable institution. We never quite got there. It’s always resource-light and operations-heavy. And never quite got there, but still just some great memories and really happy and really proud of what we were able to build. James VanOsdol: Thinking about film and music and making short music films, I’ve wondered this out loud on this podcast before, but I feel like this is a golden moment. This is the time for artists to explore that side of things. I mean, it’s not like the 1980s when I grew up, when videos were bankrolled by record labels and there were millions of dollars. Like, you grabbed a GoPro, you sit it on the dash—like, this is a real opportunity for creative expression, I think. I just don’t know if enough independent artists are taking advantage of it. Josh Chicoine: I mean, if you look at—I’ll have to disagree, I feel like, you know, the barriers are down and people now, everybody’s got a pretty decent camera in their pocket at all times. Since the barriers are down and since everybody’s got a camera, you can do whatever you want, put it up there, and not going to say it’s good, most of it’s not, most of it’s schlock. But you at least have the opportunity to make something that’s decent and the technology affords it. You don't even need to be great at editing. You can cobble stuff together. You really can. I mean, I use a really cheap editing software. James VanOsdol: Can I ask? Josh Chicoine: It’s called CapCut. And the same company, I can’t remember what they’re called, the TikTok corporation, ByteDance. It’s a ByteDance product. And I got it because it was cheap and another friend of mine was using it. And he was making some cool stuff, so I was just like, all right, I’m just going to dive in and start doing stuff. And so that’s what I did. James VanOsdol: That’s DIY. Roll up your sleeves, let’s get to it. Josh Chicoine: Yeah, it’s just—I had spent CIMMfest was so much about favors and so much about waiting for favors from people that you were either getting a deep discount from or not paying at all. And I know the pain, you know? And it’s real. So if you have any kind of means by which you can get a hold of this stuff, then it’s just about putting the work in and, you know, time is mine to give or throw away. So, yeah, it’s just sort of—I keep getting better and better, I mean other people can be the judge of that, but I feel pretty good about what I’ve been able to do with hardly any resources. James VanOsdol: It’s pretty cool. Josh Chicoine: Yeah, it’s pretty cool. James VanOsdol: All right, going back to this album Smoke Tricks again, available on March 13th. Bitter Birdies is how we begin. If you listen close, actually you don’t even need to listen that closely, there are dogs barking at the beginning of the song. Josh Chicoine: Yeah, Ralfy. James VanOsdol: I was going to ask. Josh Chicoine: It’s my doggie. James VanOsdol: And you were aware when you were recording the dog was part of it, right? Josh Chicoine: Yeah, well, my producer, my co-producer on this was Todd Rittmann and Todd Rittmann was in US Maple. I don’t know if you remember that band. Affiliated with Cheer-Accident, of course. James VanOsdol: Of course, always interesting. Josh Chicoine: Yes. Now he’s in Dead Rider, for everybody out there who’s watching, check out Dead Rider. Yeah, he’s fascinating, he’s got a great little studio called Shy Diamond Studio down in Logan, just north of Fullerton. And, you know, him and I kind of cobbled this thing together. And I never expected that the piano tracks were the final. So I would just make demos at my house and then I would send them to Todd and I’d be like, “Here’s what I’m thinking for this song,” and then we would try and fit it in somehow. And he was just—he’s like a maestro. He was just like, “I love it, you’re never taking away the dog’s bark. We’re keeping it in there 100%.” So I was like, “All right, let’s go.” Piano sounded fine, sounded good, it’s my piano in my living room. I loved it, and that’s my boy Ralfy. So he’s my spirit animal and I’m glad he’s on the record too. James VanOsdol: Good boy, Ralfy. Josh Chicoine: He’s a very good boy. James VanOsdol: On this song, I know you want people to interpret songs as, you know, as any artist would suggest, like you want to feel a connection, right? But you do mention “stuck here in Chicago” in that song. Were you feeling—do you feel a weird relationship with the city? Josh Chicoine: I think I love Chicago. It’s my favorite city. It’s especially my favorite city to come back to. I don’t know if you’ve ever leave for like a little while, but when you come back, it’s just like—ah. Especially when you’re driving back home and like you catch that first glimpse of the skyline. That is a moment. It’s real. So, I mean, when I got that grant from DCASE, it was like, “Oh no, now I got to write a record.” They called your bluff. Every time for me, at least, I decide to write a record, I have to figure out how to write a record again. And that—it’s like a lot of introspection and a lot of like, “Who am I now? What am I going to write about now?” And it takes a long—it took me a long time. And Bitter Birdies kind of came about based upon that piano that opens it up. I had that piece for a long time, but sort of like lyrically I wasn’t quite sure. And my wife and I are going to be married 25 years in June. James VanOsdol: Congratulations, that’s a big milestone. Josh Chicoine: Thank you. It’s been wonderful. But seven years into our relationship, there was a breakup. Post-college, I mean I was dating her since I was 19. I’ve known her for a long time. So yeah, moved to Chicago, joined a band, you know, our lives were diverging. And so we broke up. And she went—she quit her job, she was like working at a financial firm downtown. I was in a band, so you can see divergence. For sure. But yeah, she quit her job, she went on walkabout in Europe for six months. And I took myself back to that time. And that time was sort of very freeing and very fun at the beginning, and then the longing just really set in and, you know, the longer my notes and messages would go to her, the shorter and shorter that they came back to me. So it appeared like she was moving on and there was something really heart-wrenching about that for me. So yeah, that song was about that. So, you know, she was having this really great experience and seeing all new things and new people and I was here stuck in Chicago. So I was living in a loft space where Salvage One is now off of Hubbard, between Wood and Wolcott. With these crazy artist people and there were raves and I was making a bunch of music. So it was just like this Kevin Bacon Quicksilver life that I was living. And I just started to really miss her, no matter what I was just like, “What if she came back here and she lived with me in this hovel and we could do this together?” And that’s sort of the kind of emotional impulse that I felt from writing that and wanting to get out of it, you know, wanting to get out of that space. So nothing against Chicago, I love Chicago, but you know there’s definitely moments where you’re just like, “Okay, get me out of here.” James VanOsdol: Write what you know. Josh Chicoine: That’s I think what I came back to and when I was confronted with that idea and I keep a quote book and Louise Bourgeois said that, “If you’re not writing about yourself, then it doesn’t mean anything.” And I’m parsing—I’m screwing that quote up, but I really took that to heart. So I was like, “Okay, well then I am going to write about myself and my experiences because it’s all that I have really that I could feel a connection with.” Oh, it’s okay up there. I got an ambulance. Ambulance, police car, normal stuff. Stuck in Chicago. Here we are. James VanOsdol: Run Red Lights, which I don’t recommend. I mean, I recommend the song. Who’s doing the backup vocals on that? Josh Chicoine: Yeah, so that’s my friend Melissa and Lindsay. Melissa Busch-Wolford and Lindsay Weinberg. And they play with me in a Fleetwood Mac tribute band called Second Hand News. James VanOsdol: Good segue. I was going to ask about that. Because the backup vocals have a really nice texture in that song in particular. Josh Chicoine: Thanks. James VanOsdol: And that actually dovetails perfectly to the question about working and being part of Second Hand News because you play with those harmonies which are magical. Clearly you bring some of that back to Cult Canyon. Josh Chicoine: Yeah, I think it for me it’s always sort of been there. You can hear it in the M’s, you can hear it if you listen to Sabres, you can hear it there too. Certainly with Cloudbirds it was very much about the harmonies. And yeah, as I started to enter into this promo world of Cult Canyon, I was just trying to like think about things that were a common thread. And harmonies, singing—that’s how I kind of come up with ideas. I just kind of start with the voice, have something on the guitar that’s fine. I’m a mediocre guitar player but it’s really about voice and vocals. And so when I started playing in Second Hand News, you know, I had never been in a band with women before. I’ve played music with women before, but not in a band. So it was sort of like, “Oh, this whole another resource that I would love to bring into this project.” And they were so game and, you know, they brought their whole selves to it and I think it really shows in the recording. James VanOsdol: I love it. Since we’re on the topic of Fleetwood Mac, Tusk. Misunderstood classic or big awful mess? Josh Chicoine: Can it be both? Depends on which side you’re on, yeah. I was really naive about Tusk and I had it in my record collection just from a bunch of records that somebody gave me. And I think at one point the—because there’s two record sleeves in it—they both got kind of separated. So all of a sudden I had four record sleeves separated and I was like, “Wait a minute, this is a quadruple album? This is crazy.” But it wasn’t. There’s a record sleeve that hides another record sleeve that has the record in it. That’s how much money and wasteful money that they had. Because that’s coming off Rumours. Like, they could do whatever they wanted. Lindsey Buckingham could do whatever he wanted. And he really did. He really did. And some of it, you know, it could be argued that he shouldn’t have done it, but we still play a bunch of jams off of there. The title track to me is still one of the coolest songs of the 1970s. Super cool. I mean, there’s a lot on there that are really unheralded. Think About Me is another really good one that we love to play. James VanOsdol: Sara’s on that too, right? Josh Chicoine: Oh God, I’m going to get killed by my bandmates. Sara’s on there, yeah, it’s on there. Let’s say yeah, when no one’s looking it up. But yeah, we play Sara all the time and it’s like seven minutes long and the audience loves it and Melissa crushes it. And yeah, those are just really fun songs to play. And the audiences are crazy. It’s like there’s 18-year-olds there. James VanOsdol: I was going to say. Josh Chicoine: There’s 88-year-olds there. James VanOsdol: It’s one of those bands that is transgenerational. My daughter, who’s heading towards 21, Stevie Nicks is probably a top five artist for her. For her birthday a few years ago I took her to see Stevie Nicks at the United Center and it was this magical night for her. Like, we walked out of the United Center and she said, “I only cried three times.” I’m like, “What do you mean you cried?” “Well, you know, during Gold Dust Woman and... oh gosh, what else did she cry during? Dreams, Rhiannon, and Landslide.” Of course, classics. But I mean it is interesting how maybe millennials didn’t give a shit, but suddenly like Gen Z is full on board with Stevie Nicks. Josh Chicoine: I take it back to that dude who was on the skateboard chugging cranberry juice and all of a sudden Dreams became something. But it just feels like it’s cyclical. It keeps coming back, those songs are just so classic. Timeless, absolutely timeless. And the recordings of them were amazing. So it just seems like they’re just not going to go away, which is great for Second Hand News. Yeah, I mean we played the Metro a couple weeks ago. That’s amazing. James VanOsdol: That’s nuts. Josh Chicoine: Yeah. I love it. James VanOsdol: And to your point, like all ages get into it. That’s something you don’t get to experience necessarily in the M’s or Cult Canyon. Josh Chicoine: It’s different. Yeah, it’s different for sure. And I think that we—I’ve been told this by a lot of audience members after the show and they’re just like glowing coming out after scream-singing at us for two hours. And they just say like, “You bring so much joy.” And I really feel that. Like, we do. I mean the band is killer. And so the band in Second Hand News, the guitar player, bassist, drummer, Mike, Mike, and Dan, they play in Cult Canyon too. So they’re the ones who are the backing band on this Cult Canyon record. So I just was just enamored with this whole group and just because we had such good times together on stage and in front of giant crowds and harmonizing and singing and playing those classic songs. So it was just kind of a natural little pivot to bring them into my songwriting and I was really happy that they did. James VanOsdol: I love that. So Rattleback Records, easily a favorite record store of mine. Josh Chicoine: Mm-hmm. James VanOsdol: Releasing the album on vinyl. How important was it for you to have this as a record, as an LP? Josh Chicoine: It was critical for me. I think one of the things—so I released the Sabres record in 2014. And it kind of, like many, many, many, many, many records out there, it just kind of gets—it’s like, “Okay, it’s out there,” and then you tell your friends and then it just doesn’t really go anywhere. James VanOsdol: And that ambitious ordering of 500 records turns into, “Okay, we’re still sitting on 250.” Josh Chicoine: I have a lot of CDs. Let’s put it to you that way. Hit me up if you want a CD by Sabres. I’ll just give it to you. It’s got—anyway. Yeah, so I think I was determined to at least try and make a stink with this Cult Canyon record. And I really liked it. And so one of the first things I did was I talked to my friends in the AM Slingers, who are another Rattleback band and they’re friends of mine too. And I knew that Paul over at Rattleback had put out a 7-inch of theirs. And by put out, I mean he paid for it. So he facilitated the production and then, you know, created a connection between the band and the record store. Really love that idea, you know? It’s going to be DIY anyway, it’s all about building community bit by bit by bit. So I was introduced to Paul kind of—I don’t even remember when, it’s probably a year ago now, if not more. And he was really intrigued and I sent him a bunch of songs including the Golden Line EP, which he really loved. And that just gave me a lot of confidence, and so I took this Smoke Tricks record and I was like, “I’m really looking for somebody to help me out with this.” And he was game and continues to be game. James VanOsdol: I love that. Josh Chicoine: It was his dream to have a boutique record store. And that happened, and then it was his dream to have a boutique little tiny record label. So that happened. James VanOsdol: I’ve never been in that store, by the way, where it hasn’t been busy. Josh Chicoine: Oh good. James VanOsdol: No, I mean I love going there. Like, they’ve got one of the best, I think, mixes of new and used and their prices are very reasonable. Josh Chicoine: I agree. I agree. Yeah, they have a lot of cool chotchkies around, good t-shirt collection. It’s like a proper record store. James VanOsdol: And I mean if you’re one of those budget-bin divers like there’s dollar records, you’ll hurt your knees going through them, but I mean there’s occasionally gold to find in there. Josh Chicoine: I agree. It’s everywhere. James VanOsdol: But yeah, it’s a cool place, I mean right over there on Clark Street. And I love just that kind of brand extension for Rattleback. Like it makes so much sense. Josh Chicoine: I love that. I love that for Paul, I love that we were able to become a part of that and we’re putting on a showcase of Rattleback Records artists May 29th at the Burlington. James VanOsdol: Nice. Which for the record, one of the loudest rooms in Chicago. Josh Chicoine: That’s right. We’ll do what we can, but I mean it’s hard, it’s like a lot of hard flat surfaces and they didn’t do any soundproofing or nothing. So, yeah. James VanOsdol: That’s good. That’s part of its charm. Josh Chicoine: It’s part of the charm. Yeah, yeah, you know what you’re getting into when you go back there. Just bring earplugs, what’s the big deal? James VanOsdol: Just bring ear—that’s—if you bring earplugs, you’re good. Josh Chicoine: Yeah, that’s right. James VanOsdol: But if you go deaf, I mean who better to go deaf from? Josh Chicoine: Yeah, that’s a badge of honor. It’s a badge of honor. I mean it’s not a good recommendation, I would say. But if you want good earplugs, just go to Sensaphonics down there on Milwaukee Avenue. Shout out. Yesterday was National Hearing Day and I got myself fitted for a new pair of earplugs. James VanOsdol: Smart. Josh Chicoine: And it basically—it’s no joke. No, it’s no joke if you listen to a lot of live music. It basically just turns the volume down. The clarity is still there versus sticking toilet paper in your ears or those foam things. James VanOsdol: Exactly what they feel like. Or those like pool noodles shrunk down. Josh Chicoine: Yeah, that’s right. They’re good if you want to sleep. If you’re like on tour and everybody else snores in your hotel room, then those are really effective. James VanOsdol: For sure. All right, so Smoke Tricks is the album. It’s awesome. It comes out on March 13th. The Hideout is the release show on March 14th. And onward and upward. What a great record, you really did it. Josh Chicoine: Thanks, man. I really appreciate it. That was nice talking to you. Are we done? Is this the wrap? James VanOsdol: This is the wrap. Josh Chicoine: All right, love it. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this episode of Car Con Carne, James VanOsdol welcomes Josh Chicoine, the creative force behind Cult Canyon, to discuss the release of the debut album, Smoke Tricks. The conversation delves into the evolution of Josh's musical projects, from the raw energy of the M's and the acoustic harmonies of Cloudbirds to the collaborative and sophisticated sound of Cult Canyon. Key Highlights: The Making of Smoke Tricks: Josh explains how the album, initially inspired by string arrangements recorded in 2019, was brought to life through a grant from the Department of Cultural Affairs and Special Events (DCASE). Creative Collaborations: The album features contributions from talented musicians like Alison Chesley, Susan Voelz, and Dave Max Crawford, as well as backup vocals from Melissa Busch-Wolford and Lindsay Weinberg. DIY Spirit: Josh shares his experiences with the DIY approach to music, from producing and promoting records to filming music videos with a GoPro and a vintage VHS filter. The Influence of Chicago: The city of Chicago serves as a backdrop for the album, with Josh reflecting on his relationship with the city and the local music scene. Second Hand News: Josh and James discuss his involvement in the Fleetwood Mac tribute band, Second Hand News, and the transgenerational appeal of the legendary band's music. Album Information: Item Details Artist Cult Canyon Album Title Smoke Tricks Release Date March 13, 2026 Label Rattleback Records Release Show The Hideout, March 14, 2026     This episode is brought to you by Exploding House Printing. Based in Hermosa, they specialize in screen printing, embroidery, and custom merch for bands and brands. Visit explodinghouseprinting.com for a quote. Episode Transcript James VanOsdol: This right here is Car Con Carne. Car Con Carne is a Q101 podcast. I'm James VanOsdol. Car Con Carne is brought to you by Exploding House Printing. They're based in Hermosa and they specialize in screen printing, embroidery, and custom merch for bands and brands. Check them out on explodinghouseprinting.com. Get a quote, see all the people, businesses, bands, and brands that they've worked with. Explodinghouseprinting.com. (Theme song plays) James VanOsdol: So, after the Golden Line EP a few years ago, Cult Canyon is set to release its debut album, Smoke Tricks, on March 13th. The album will be released on lovely vinyl via Rattleback Records and the release will be celebrated with a live show at The Hideout the following night. Josh Chicoine, whose creative resume is deep, impressive, and familiar, joins me in the car on a rainy, dreary, just kind of shitty transitional winter-into-spring night. Josh Chicoine: Muck, winter mix. James VanOsdol: Let's talk about Cult Canyon. We're here, the album's almost out as we're sitting here talking about it. Josh Chicoine: It is. James VanOsdol: A lot of us came to know you from your time with the M's earlier this century. Have you metaphorically moved from the garage to the living room with these projects? Josh Chicoine: It feels like I have. I mean, there was definitely a lot of garage influences happening with the M's. Certainly a DIY spirit. James VanOsdol: That kind of raw immediacy. Josh Chicoine: Yeah, I think we were trying to—well, it was of the time too. So this was the early 2000s, there was a lot of that stuff rolling around. And we kind of fit into that mix and just wanted to bring our own little flavor, which is heavily melodic, a lot of singing, a lot of gang vocals, which is one of my favorite things to do. And still, I guess, pop ethos, you know? Major and minor chords, nothing crazy. But yeah, we got done with that and I started a three-piece singing group called Cloudbirds and did that for about three years with a couple of guys that were in the M's also, Joey King and Glenn Russell. And that was definitely in the living room. That was acoustic guitars, sometimes we had electric, but mostly acoustic music and three-part harmonies and very folky. And it was a real welcome relief, I'd say, to almost 10 years of loud guitars and bashing drums and shouting vocals. James VanOsdol: You weren't pounding kids anymore. Josh Chicoine: We were not. We were not, and we kind of got started late anyway. So by the time 2009 rolled around, I was probably in my mid-30s, early 30s, everybody was kind of getting into their 30s. So being on the road was just awful. I think I was about ready to have my first child. And so yeah, the whole kind of idea shifted. And so we just couldn't sustain that. So being in a singing group and just three guys, a lot easier to organize practices and singing some sweet melodies and harmonies, and that was more my style. And I kind of chased that for a little while, and then I had a new band called Sabres and I tried to do the rock thing again in 2014 and self-released that record, put a lot of time into that record. And it was another big record. And I found out I was just really tired. The DIY thing is that you have to do it yourself. So that means producing the record, promoting the record, getting all the artwork together, getting five people—now more grown people—to get together for any rehearsal, any show. I thought it was going to maybe be a bit easier, but it just wasn't. It wasn't easy, so I had to put that down. James VanOsdol: DIY is hard. We're doing DIY right now in a car on urban radio in 2026. I do it in my car with a couple of cheap—see how the world has shifted for us both. Josh Chicoine: It has. I might say for the better. James VanOsdol: One would argue or could argue that, yeah. We're our own bosses. Josh Chicoine: I think so. Yeah, there you go. James VanOsdol: You're the CEO of Cult Canyon. Josh Chicoine: I am the CEO of Cult Canyon. I have a lot of contributors and collaborators, which I'm very thankful for. James VanOsdol: Let's talk about some of them. Alison Chesley is a contributor. Josh Chicoine: She is. She is actually appearing on the latest record. To go back to the Golden Line EP in 2019, so right before COVID, I released an EP called Josh Chicoine and it was called Dream Believers. And I was imagining this trajectory where the next bunch of songs would include a string quartet. And so in 2019, early 2019, I recorded three songs including with Susan Voelz, who's a good friend also. James VanOsdol: She's delightful. Josh Chicoine: Yeah, she's delightful, she's an old friend, she's a great contributor, what a great spirit. And with her and a few other string players. And then COVID came, so I sat on this thing. And I sat on this thing for quite a while because part of the DIY situation that we're in now is that there's so much noise and there's so many competing avenues for attention, including your couch doing nothing. That's a big one. James VanOsdol: Yeah. Josh Chicoine: Yeah, so I sat on it and I didn't know what I was going to do. And so I applied for a grant. It was really the Department of Cultural Affairs and Special Events here in Chicago, they have an individual artist program, DCASE. James VanOsdol: DCASE. Shout out to DCASE. Josh Chicoine: They have a grant program every year, and I applied and I said, you know, I'm coming back into making things and this is what I want to do. I want to make a rock record in the city of Chicago using Chicago musicians out of Chicago studios. And that was really the kind of impetus to be like, okay, what do I want this Cult Canyon thing to be? And so that's when I looked back at those Golden Line songs, which are really lush string arrangements done by our good friend Dave Max Crawford of Poi Dog Pondering and the Total Pro Horns. And he does a fantastic job. I've been collaborating with him since the M's, he did a lot of those string arrangements and horn arrangements and stuff, so he's really adept and really tasteful. And so I was just like, why not bring it into everything that I'm doing and make Cult Canyon more of a catch-all and a place where, for one, I can do what I want and I can do it with others that I want to do it with, people that I love. And yeah, Alison Chesley, I met her through Susan because playing with quartets, you end up having a large stable of artists because people are busy or they want more money than you want to give them or can give them on any given night. So I was able to meet and reach out to a bunch of string players and continually find new ones in town that can fill a role for a time. And happily, Alison is on this record on a tune called Good Bad Habits. James VanOsdol: I love it. And the album sounds great. Now, we're recording this right before it comes out, like I said. The album is Smoke Tricks. We've had—we, the public—have experienced some of it already. Real Sublime is a single. You shot a video for this one. Josh Chicoine: I did. James VanOsdol: Was that your house you shot it in? Josh Chicoine: That was at my house, yeah. James VanOsdol: Very tastefully appointed. Josh Chicoine: Thank you. That's all due to my wife. James VanOsdol: You've got you in a convertible on the lakefront. Josh Chicoine: That's my buddy Al's '67 Oldsmobile. James VanOsdol: That's badass. Josh Chicoine: Pretty badass. We all need a buddy like Al. Al's the best. James VanOsdol: Convertible on the drive, clearly different time of year from when we're recording this. Josh Chicoine: Yeah. James VanOsdol: And is that the lake you jumped into or did you shoot that— Josh Chicoine: Yeah, jumped into the lake. Another good friend of mine is a Great Lake jumper, Dan O'Conor. James VanOsdol: He's a celebrated Great Lake jumper. Josh Chicoine: They continually celebrate Great Lake jumper. I think he did it for five years straight every day. And yeah, so I started going out there and doing that. So it wasn't so far afield to imagine, because what are videos now? I don't even know what they are. But for this one, it was like, all right, Al, let's get in a car, let's drive around. I got this GoPro, I'll stick it to your car, drive around, and then let's go to the lake and let's jump in the lake. James VanOsdol: So it doesn't necessarily tie back to the lyrics or the theme? Josh Chicoine: I don't think so. I mean, but maybe somebody sees something that I don't. I think that's part of my MO, at least, is to leave enough fog to allow for some interpretation. But yeah, this is more of kind of a performance, roll around, get some good footage, put a 1989 VHS filter on it and make it look cool and get it out. James VanOsdol: And you're a fan of film and what can be done with movies. Josh Chicoine: Yeah, for sure. I mean, I love film, I love movies, I love music movies. For eight years I was the co-founder and director of the Chicago International Movies and Music Festival. And we were all over the place throughout the city. And we would show movies from all over the world, like 33 countries usually were represented each year. And that was just, for me, was fascinating to figure out how to build something like that that could last and to raise money for it, you know, practicing all these adult skills that being in a van in a band on tour you're not really practicing too much. James VanOsdol: Do you miss doing CIMMfest? Josh Chicoine: There's a lot of it that I do. I really miss just the people and the spirit. I mean, we had an incredible group of volunteers that would come every year and really they were the ones that were able to activate this thing. And so I loved sitting around and dreaming, I loved building marketing materials, if only because then I could have something to go and take to people that I knew and a network that I was building. And I thought it was really a cool thing for the city and it really got me in touch with a lot of old friends and made so many new friends and it kept me—this was right after the M's, and the M's were kind of media darlings and played a lot of shows and, you know, I knew a lot of club owners and I knew publicists and I knew all that network. So it kind of allowed me personally to stay connected to that world. And coming out of there, that's what my kind of career goals were. I was just like, okay, I want to stay in this world, I want to stay connected to these people. So it was my friend Ilko Davidov, who's a Bulgarian filmmaker, and it was his concept. And I was just sort of the right person that was able to come and hoodwink a bunch of people into coming on board and giving me a bunch of money and being able to try to make this thing into a sustainable institution. We never quite got there. It's always resource-light and operations-heavy. And never quite got there, but still just some great memories and really happy and really proud of what we were able to build. James VanOsdol: Thinking about film and music and making short music films, I've wondered this out loud on this podcast before, but I feel like this is a golden moment. This is the time for artists to explore that side of things. I mean, it's not like the 1980s when I grew up, when videos were bankrolled by record labels and there were millions of dollars. Like, you grabbed a GoPro, you sit it on the dash—like, this is a real opportunity for creative expression, I think. I just don't know if enough independent artists are taking advantage of it. Josh Chicoine: I mean, if you look at—I'll have to disagree, I feel like, you know, the barriers are down and people now, everybody's got a pretty decent camera in their pocket at all times. Since the barriers are down and since everybody's got a camera, you can do whatever you want, put it up there, and not going to say it's good, most of it's not, most of it's schlock. But you at least have the opportunity to make something that's decent and the technology affords it. You don't even need to be great at editing. You can cobble stuff together. You really can. I mean, I use a really cheap editing software. James VanOsdol: Can I ask? Josh Chicoine: It's called CapCut. And the same company, I can't remember what they're called, the TikTok corporation, ByteDance. It's a ByteDance product. And I got it because it was cheap and another friend of mine was using it. And he was making some cool stuff, so I was just like, all right, I'm just going to dive in and start doing stuff. And so that's what I did. James VanOsdol: That's DIY. Roll up your sleeves, let's get to it. Josh Chicoine: Yeah, it's just—I had spent CIMMfest was so much about favors and so much about waiting for favors from people that you were either getting a deep discount from or not paying at all. And I know the pain, you know? And it's real. So if you have any kind of means by which you can get a hold of this stuff, then it's just about putting the work in and, you know, time is mine to give or throw away. So, yeah, it's just sort of—I keep getting better and better, I mean other people can be the judge of that, but I feel pretty good about what I've been able to do with hardly any resources. James VanOsdol: It's pretty cool. Josh Chicoine: Yeah, it's pretty cool. James VanOsdol: All right, going back to this album Smoke Tricks again, available on March 13th. Bitter Birdies is how we begin. If you listen close, actually you don't even need to listen that closely, there are dogs barking at the beginning of the song. Josh Chicoine: Yeah, Ralfy. James VanOsdol: I was going to ask. Josh Chicoine: It's my doggie. James VanOsdol: And you were aware when you were recording the dog was part of it, right? Josh Chicoine: Yeah, well, my producer, my co-producer on this was Todd Rittmann and Todd Rittmann was in US Maple. I don't know if you remember that band. Affiliated with Cheer-Accident, of course. James VanOsdol: Of course, always interesting. Josh Chicoine: Yes. Now he's in Dead Rider, for everybody out there who's watching, check out Dead Rider. Yeah, he's fascinating, he's got a great little studio called Shy Diamond Studio down in Logan, just north of Fullerton. And, you know, him and I kind of cobbled this thing together. And I never expected that the piano tracks were the final. So I would just make demos at my house and then I would send them to Todd and I'd be like, "Here's what I'm thinking for this song," and then we would try and fit it in somehow. And he was just—he's like a maestro. He was just like, "I love it, you're never taking away the dog's bark. We're keeping it in there 100%." So I was like, "All right, let's go." Piano sounded fine, sounded good, it's my piano in my living room. I loved it, and that's my boy Ralfy. So he's my spirit animal and I'm glad he's on the record too. James VanOsdol: Good boy, Ralfy. Josh Chicoine: He's a very good boy. James VanOsdol: On this song, I know you want people to interpret songs as, you know, as any artist would suggest, like you want to feel a connection, right? But you do mention "stuck here in Chicago" in that song. Were you feeling—do you feel a weird relationship with the city? Josh Chicoine: I think I love Chicago. It's my favorite city. It's especially my favorite city to come back to. I don't know if you've ever leave for like a little while, but when you come back, it's just like—ah. Especially when you're driving back home and like you catch that first glimpse of the skyline. That is a moment. It's real. So, I mean, when I got that grant from DCASE, it was like, "Oh no, now I got to write a record." They called your bluff. Every time for me, at least, I decide to write a record, I have to figure out how to write a record again. And that—it's like a lot of introspection and a lot of like, "Who am I now? What am I going to write about now?" And it takes a long—it took me a long time. And Bitter Birdies kind of came about based upon that piano that opens it up. I had that piece for a long time, but sort of like lyrically I wasn't quite sure. And my wife and I are going to be married 25 years in June. James VanOsdol: Congratulations, that's a big milestone. Josh Chicoine: Thank you. It's been wonderful. But seven years into our relationship, there was a breakup. Post-college, I mean I was dating her since I was 19. I've known her for a long time. So yeah, moved to Chicago, joined a band, you know, our lives were diverging. And so we broke up. And she went—she quit her job, she was like working at a financial firm downtown. I was in a band, so you can see divergence. For sure. But yeah, she quit her job, she went on walkabout in Europe for six months. And I took myself back to that time. And that time was sort of very freeing and very fun at the beginning, and then the longing just really set in and, you know, the longer my notes and messages would go to her, the shorter and shorter that they came back to me. So it appeared like she was moving on and there was something really heart-wrenching about that for me. So yeah, that song was about that. So, you know, she was having this really great experience and seeing all new things and new people and I was here stuck in Chicago. So I was living in a loft space where Salvage One is now off of Hubbard, between Wood and Wolcott. With these crazy artist people and there were raves and I was making a bunch of music. So it was just like this Kevin Bacon Quicksilver life that I was living. And I just started to really miss her, no matter what I was just like, "What if she came back here and she lived with me in this hovel and we could do this together?" And that's sort of the kind of emotional impulse that I felt from writing that and wanting to get out of it, you know, wanting to get out of that space. So nothing against Chicago, I love Chicago, but you know there's definitely moments where you're just like, "Okay, get me out of here." James VanOsdol: Write what you know. Josh Chicoine: That's I think what I came back to and when I was confronted with that idea and I keep a quote book and Louise Bourgeois said that, "If you're not writing about yourself, then it doesn't mean anything." And I'm parsing—I'm screwing that quote up, but I really took that to heart. So I was like, "Okay, well then I am going to write about myself and my experiences because it's all that I have really that I could feel a connection with." Oh, it's okay up there. I got an ambulance. Ambulance, police car, normal stuff. Stuck in Chicago. Here we are. James VanOsdol: Run Red Lights, which I don't recommend. I mean, I recommend the song. Who's doing the backup vocals on that? Josh Chicoine: Yeah, so that's my friend Melissa and Lindsay. Melissa Busch-Wolford and Lindsay Weinberg. And they play with me in a Fleetwood Mac tribute band called Second Hand News. James VanOsdol: Good segue. I was going to ask about that. Because the backup vocals have a really nice texture in that song in particular. Josh Chicoine: Thanks. James VanOsdol: And that actually dovetails perfectly to the question about working and being part of Second Hand News because you play with those harmonies which are magical. Clearly you bring some of that back to Cult Canyon. Josh Chicoine: Yeah, I think it for me it's always sort of been there. You can hear it in the M's, you can hear it if you listen to Sabres, you can hear it there too. Certainly with Cloudbirds it was very much about the harmonies. And yeah, as I started to enter into this promo world of Cult Canyon, I was just trying to like think about things that were a common thread. And harmonies, singing—that's how I kind of come up with ideas. I just kind of start with the voice, have something on the guitar that's fine. I'm a mediocre guitar player but it's really about voice and vocals. And so when I started playing in Second Hand News, you know, I had never been in a band with women before. I've played music with women before, but not in a band. So it was sort of like, "Oh, this whole another resource that I would love to bring into this project." And they were so game and, you know, they brought their whole selves to it and I think it really shows in the recording. James VanOsdol: I love it. Since we're on the topic of Fleetwood Mac, Tusk. Misunderstood classic or big awful mess? Josh Chicoine: Can it be both? Depends on which side you're on, yeah. I was really naive about Tusk and I had it in my record collection just from a bunch of records that somebody gave me. And I think at one point the—because there's two record sleeves in it—they both got kind of separated. So all of a sudden I had four record sleeves separated and I was like, "Wait a minute, this is a quadruple album? This is crazy." But it wasn't. There's a record sleeve that hides another record sleeve that has the record in it. That's how much money and wasteful money that they had. Because that's coming off Rumours. Like, they could do whatever they wanted. Lindsey Buckingham could do whatever he wanted. And he really did. He really did. And some of it, you know, it could be argued that he shouldn't have done it, but we still play a bunch of jams off of there. The title track to me is still one of the coolest songs of the 1970s. Super cool. I mean, there's a lot on there that are really unheralded. Think About Me is another really good one that we love to play. James VanOsdol: Sara's on that too, right? Josh Chicoine: Oh God, I'm going to get killed by my bandmates. Sara's on there, yeah, it's on there. Let's say yeah, when no one's looking it up. But yeah, we play Sara all the time and it's like seven minutes long and the audience loves it and Melissa crushes it. And yeah, those are just really fun songs to play. And the audiences are crazy. It's like there's 18-year-olds there. James VanOsdol: I was going to say. Josh Chicoine: There's 88-year-olds there. James VanOsdol: It's one of those bands that is transgenerational. My daughter, who's heading towards 21, Stevie Nicks is probably a top five artist for her. For her birthday a few years ago I took her to see Stevie Nicks at the United Center and it was this magical night for her. Like, we walked out of the United Center and she said, "I only cried three times." I'm like, "What do you mean you cried?" "Well, you know, during Gold Dust Woman and... oh gosh, what else did she cry during? Dreams, Rhiannon, and Landslide." Of course, classics. But I mean it is interesting how maybe millennials didn't give a shit, but suddenly like Gen Z is full on board with Stevie Nicks. Josh Chicoine: I take it back to that dude who was on the skateboard chugging cranberry juice and all of a sudden Dreams became something. But it just feels like it's cyclical. It keeps coming back, those songs are just so classic. Timeless, absolutely timeless. And the recordings of them were amazing. So it just seems like they're just not going to go away, which is great for Second Hand News. Yeah, I mean we played the Metro a couple weeks ago. That's amazing. James VanOsdol: That's nuts. Josh Chicoine: Yeah. I love it. James VanOsdol: And to your point, like all ages get into it. That's something you don't get to experience necessarily in the M's or Cult Canyon. Josh Chicoine: It's different. Yeah, it's different for sure. And I think that we—I've been told this by a lot of audience members after the show and they're just like glowing coming out after scream-singing at us for two hours. And they just say like, "You bring so much joy." And I really feel that. Like, we do. I mean the band is killer. And so the band in Second Hand News, the guitar player, bassist, drummer, Mike, Mike, and Dan, they play in Cult Canyon too. So they're the ones who are the backing band on this Cult Canyon record. So I just was just enamored with this whole group and just because we had such good times together on stage and in front of giant crowds and harmonizing and singing and playing those classic songs. So it was just kind of a natural little pivot to bring them into my songwriting and I was really happy that they did. James VanOsdol: I love that. So Rattleback Records, easily a favorite record store of mine. Josh Chicoine: Mm-hmm. James VanOsdol: Releasing the album on vinyl. How important was it for you to have this as a record, as an LP? Josh Chicoine: It was critical for me. I think one of the things—so I released the Sabres record in 2014. And it kind of, like many, many, many, many, many records out there, it just kind of gets—it's like, "Okay, it's out there," and then you tell your friends and then it just doesn't really go anywhere. James VanOsdol: And that ambitious ordering of 500 records turns into, "Okay, we're still sitting on 250." Josh Chicoine: I have a lot of CDs. Let's put it to you that way. Hit me up if you want a CD by Sabres. I'll just give it to you. It's got—anyway. Yeah, so I think I was determined to at least try and make a stink with this Cult Canyon record. And I really liked it. And so one of the first things I did was I talked to my friends in the AM Slingers, who are another Rattleback band and they're friends of mine too. And I knew that Paul over at Rattleback had put out a 7-inch of theirs. And by put out, I mean he paid for it. So he facilitated the production and then, you know, created a connection between the band and the record store. Really love that idea, you know? It's going to be DIY anyway, it's all about building community bit by bit by bit. So I was introduced to Paul kind of—I don't even remember when, it's probably a year ago now, if not more. And he was really intrigued and I sent him a bunch of songs including the Golden Line EP, which he really loved. And that just gave me a lot of confidence, and so I took this Smoke Tricks record and I was like, "I'm really looking for somebody to help me out with this." And he was game and continues to be game. James VanOsdol: I love that. Josh Chicoine: It was his dream to have a boutique record store. And that happened, and then it was his dream to have a boutique little tiny record label. So that happened. James VanOsdol: I've never been in that store, by the way, where it hasn't been busy. Josh Chicoine: Oh good. James VanOsdol: No, I mean I love going there. Like, they've got one of the best, I think, mixes of new and used and their prices are very reasonable. Josh Chicoine: I agree. I agree. Yeah, they have a lot of cool chotchkies around, good t-shirt collection. It's like a proper record store. James VanOsdol: And I mean if you're one of those budget-bin divers like there's dollar records, you'll hurt your knees going through them, but I mean there's occasionally gold to find in there. Josh Chicoine: I agree. It's everywhere. James VanOsdol: But yeah, it's a cool place, I mean right over there on Clark Street. And I love just that kind of brand extension for Rattleback. Like it makes so much sense. Josh Chicoine: I love that. I love that for Paul, I love that we were able to become a part of that and we're putting on a showcase of Rattleback Records artists May 29th at the Burlington. James VanOsdol: Nice. Which for the record, one of the loudest rooms in Chicago. Josh Chicoine: That's right. We'll do what we can, but I mean it's hard, it's like a lot of hard flat surfaces and they didn't do any soundproofing or nothing. So, yeah. James VanOsdol: That's good. That's part of its charm. Josh Chicoine: It's part of the charm. Yeah, yeah, you know what you're getting into when you go back there. Just bring earplugs, what's the big deal? James VanOsdol: Just bring ear—that's—if you bring earplugs, you're good. Josh Chicoine: Yeah, that's right. James VanOsdol: But if you go deaf, I mean who better to go deaf from? Josh Chicoine: Yeah, that's a badge of honor. It's a badge of honor. I mean it's not a good recommendation, I would say. But if you want good earplugs, just go to Sensaphonics down there on Milwaukee Avenue. Shout out. Yesterday was National Hearing Day and I got myself fitted for a new pair of earplugs. James VanOsdol: Smart. Josh Chicoine: And it basically—it's no joke. No, it's no joke if you listen to a lot of live music. It basically just turns the volume down. The clarity is still there versus sticking toilet paper in your ears or those foam things. James VanOsdol: Exactly what they feel like. Or those like pool noodles shrunk down. Josh Chicoine: Yeah, that's right. They're good if you want to sleep. If you're like on tour and everybody else snores in your hotel room, then those are really effective. James VanOsdol: For sure. All right, so Smoke Tricks is the album. It's awesome. It comes out on March 13th. The Hideout is the release show on March 14th. And onward and upward. What a great record, you really did it. Josh Chicoine: Thanks, man. I really appreciate it. That was nice talking to you. Are we done? Is this the wrap? James VanOsdol: This is the wrap. Josh Chicoine: All right, love it.

Hi there! Taking inspiration from a playlist by music guru and MP3 blog pioneer Matthew Perpetua, Joe and Kari are exploring songs with the "crazed energy or manic intensity" of a good ol 80s coke psychosis. Lindsey Buckingham was definitely (ALLEGEDLY) on something when he decided to record "I Want You". Go West also certainly (ALLEGEDLY) had a line for "party favors" in the "Call Me" video budget. And Bobby Brown... him, Slimer and Vigo were for sure (ALLEGEDLY) doing some skiing on the set of Ghostbusters II. Joe and Kari break down all the tea around these wild tracks and more!Also, let's talk about one of the cheesiest, and worst, soundtrack songs of the 80s. No disassemble. Bye there!Send a text

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MUSICSublime are getting into the traveling festival business.The band's Me Gusta festival will start May 9th in Fort Worth, Texas and is billed as featuring a "lineup hand-picked to represent the crossroads of reggae and punk." There's a date also slated for June 27th at a city to be announced in Oregon, with more dates to be revealed soon.The Me Gusta name comes from the band's song "Caress Me Down" and the line "me gusta mi reggae, me gusta punk rock." https://www.megustafest.com/ New releases from Billie Eilish, Billy Joel, Sammy Hagar, Talking Heads and Warren Zevon are among the highlights of Record Store Day's Black Friday lineup.There are 175 limited-edition items on either vinyl or CD slated to drop that day. Check out the complete list at RecordStoreDay.com, or read on for our Top 25 picks.Cage the Elephant - Live From The Vic - 2-LP. This was recorded in 2011 at the famed Chicago venue.Creed - Live in San Antonio (11/14/1999) - 2-LP. This is Creed's first live album. Billie Eilish - Live - 10-inch EP. Live recordings from Amazon's Songline series, never before released physically.Fleetwood Mac - Fleetwood Mac: Live 1975 - 2-LP This captured parts of two shows on the band's first tour with Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham.INXS - Live From Royal Albert Hall, London, 1986 - LP. This was recorded in June 1986. Jelly Roll - Beautifully Broken (Pickin' Up The Pieces) - LP. This features 13 tracks from the digital deluxe version of Jelly Roll's 2024 album, Beautifully Broken. Van Halen - Live at Wembley 1995 - LP. This features eight tracks recorded at London's Wembley Stadium on June 24th, 1995 on the Balance TourScott Weiland - "If I Could Fly"/"Barbarella (Live)" - 7-inch. This features a previously unreleased song from the late Stone Temple Pilots singer. TV The 2025 CMA Awards pulled in 6.04 million viewers on ABC last week. That's an all-time low. https://www.whiskeyriff.com/2025/11/25/cma-awards-hit-another-all-time-ratings-low-in-2025/ Check out the first teaser for the four-part docuseries, "Sean Combs: The Reckoning", produced by his rival 50 Cent. It hits Netflix on December 2nd. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/music/music-news/netflix-diddy-documentary-50-cent-trailer-release-date-1236435362/ Guy Fieri ripped his quad muscle in half, and has to use a wheelchair for eight weeks. https://nypost.com/2025/11/25/entertainment/guy-fieri-hospitalized-after-quad-exploded-during-flavor-town-food-fight-shoot/ Dr. J.D. Dorian and Scrubs are coming back! https://decider.com/2025/11/24/abc-shares-first-look-at-scrubs-reboot-footage-inside-retrospective-promo-see-the-sacred-heart-gang-back-in-action/ MOVING ON INTO MOVIE NEWS:AMC Theatres has announced an intriguing deal for popcorn lovers on Cyber Monday, they're selling an "AMC Popcorn Pass", which gets you a 50% discount on a large popcorn every day of the week . . . plus one free refill per day. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/popcorn-amc-theatres-offers-half-off-discount-pass-1236435291/ AND FINALLYWhat's a movie where the villain is much cooler than the hero?" https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/1p53ija/whats_a_movie_where_the_villain_is_much_cooler/ A song to ‘play us out' – people are listening to our show and taking our creativity. There is a new country song about how there's no kids named Gary anymore… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJm3gYqKehAAND THAT IS YOUR CRAP ON CELEBRITIES!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Stevie Nicks wrote the hit "Dreams" in about 10 minutes as the drama with Lindsey Buckingham was peaking during the Rumours sessions. It's the only Fleetwood Mac song to ever go to #1 when it was released, and it keeps entering the charts as the decades go on! Get into this hit that just won't quit in this episode of the Behind The Song podcast with Janda Lane. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

INTRO (00:24): Kathleen opens the show drinking a Champagne Velvet Premium Pilsner from Upland Brewing Company. She reviews her quick trip to NYC, debating Fantasy Football strategies with Kelly Clarkson and drinking martinis with friends at the King Cole Bar.    TOUR NEWS: See Kathleen live on her “Day Drinking Tour.”   COURT NEWS (24:12): Kathleen shares news announcing that Chappell Roan is inducting Cyndi Lauper into the Rock & Roll HOF, Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham are back on speaking terms, and Dolly Parton's Songteller hotel has started taking reservations for 2026.    TASTING MENU (1:22): Kathleen samples Chick-Fil-A Waffle Potato Chips, Crunchmaster Ranch Rice Crackers, and Cabot Creamery Sharp Cheddar Popcorn.    UPDATES (31:45): Kathleen shares updates on Prince Andrew's removal from Royal life, Meta's Reality Labs posts an astronomical loss, Elon Musk's Boring Company breaks ground in Nashville without government approval, and the expedition to locate Amelia Earhart's plane is halted.   HOLY SHIT THEY FOUND IT (45:00): Kathleen reveals that an extremely rare white Iberian lynx has been photographed in Spain.    FRONT PAGE PUB NEWS (46:20): Kathleen shares articles on Billie Eilish telling billionaires to be more philanthropic, Utah's governor signed into law a new controversial coffee bill, the NFL announced that Sting will headline an intimate “Super Bowl LX Studio 60” concert, Barcelona bans Airbnb, Mormon women are getting an upgrade in their sacred undergarments, mysterious blue dogs are spotted roaming near the Chernobyl site, and the former child actor who appeared in JAWS as a boy is named the police chief of the same Martha's Vineyard town where the move was shot.    SAINT OF THE WEEK (1:11:11): Kathleen reads about Saint Bernadette, patron saint of the sick, the poor, and families.    WHAT ARE WE WATCHING (19:00): Kathleen recommends watching “The Road” on Paramount +, and “John Wayne Gacy: The Devil In Disguise” on Peacock.    FEEL GOOD STORY (1:09:55): Kathleen shares a story about a 105-year old Irish woman who has revealed her secret to long life is staying single, drinking daily, and never giving up on gambling.   

MUSICTwenty One Pilots, will pay tribute to The White Stripes, covering "Seven Nation Army" at the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony on November 8th in Los Angeles. Sad New Details on the Passing of Limp Bizkit Bassist Sam RiversSome really tragic news today about the death of Sam Rivers, the original bassist for the nu-metal band Limp Bizkit. New details are coming out about the circumstances of his passing, and it's just heartbreaking. Former Hole and Smashing Pumpkins bassist Melissa Auf Der Maur will publish her memoir Even the Good Girls Will Cry: A ‘90s Rock Memoir on March 17th. https://www.dacapopress.com/titles/melissa-auf-der-maur/even-the-good-girls-will-cry/9780306833755/ You're not gonna believe this, but it's true; Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham are now on speaking terms. https://www.nme.com/news/music/stevie-nicks-and-lindsey-buckingham-back-on-speaking-terms-break-down-frozen-love-on-song-exploder-podcast-3903657 Carrie Underwood is on top of the country world. She's now the highest Recording Industry Association of America-certified female country artist of all time. https://www.billboard.com/music/country/carrie-underwood-riaa-certification-country-woman-1236101161/ NEW RELEASESAvatar's Don't Go in the Forest contains "Tonight We Must be Warriors."The Pretty Reckless's Taylor Momsen's Pretty Reckless Christmas includes her duetting with herself as a kid from The Grinch Who Stole Christmas.The Cars' Heartbeat City: Deluxe Edition is a four CD and one LP box set that adds unrelesaed mixes and a full concert.Radiohead's Hail to the Thief Live Recordings 2003-2009 gets released on CD and vinyl.The Who's Who Are You: Super Deluxe Edition is a massive box set with 71 unreleased tracks.Everclear's Sparkle and Fade 30th Anniversary Edition adds eight bonus tracks.Trivium's Struck Dead EP is their first new music in four years. TVGayle King is expected to leave her role as an anchor on CBS Mornings after 14 years with the morning show. https://variety.com/2025/tv/news/gayle-king-cbs-mornings-anchor-out-1236565036/ MOVING ON INTO MOVIE NEWS:IN THEATERS"Bugonia" (R) Trailer· Emma Stone is a corporate CEO who is kidnapped by Jesse Plemons . . . an unhinged conspiracy theorist who is convinced that she's an alien and that her company's experiments are the cause of his mother's illness.· He starts out by SHAVING HER HEAD so she can't communicate with the other aliens. (???) And he's not above torturing her to get what he wants . . . a trip to her mothership so he can make a case to save humanity."Anniversary" (R) Trailer (Opened Wednesday)· Diane Lane and Kyle Chandler are celebrating their 25th anniversary when their son brings home his new girlfriend, a former student who publishes a book with radical ideas that lay the foundation for a "unified" single-party, political system.· Things take a dark turn for the family once the book becomes a best seller and America falls more and more under the influence of the new Deep State, whose symbol is a new flag where the stars have moved to the center of the stripes."Stitch Head" (PG) Trailer (Opened Wednesday)· A light-hearted animated twist on Frankenstein's monster, where Stitch Head (voiced by Asa Butterfield) rallies the castle's other monsters to defend themselves against a greedy circus owner and suspicious townsfolk. Your favorite Halloween song, "Monster Mash", is going to be made into an animated movie. https://deadline.com/2025/10/monster-mash-song-miramax-movie-1236599994/ "The Conjuring" universe will live on with a TV series and a prequel movie. https://people.com/the-conjuring-new-prequel-after-last-rites-success-11840396"Yellowstone" creator Taylor Sheridan is developing a live-action "Call of Duty" movie. https://consequence.net/2025/10/taylor-sheridan-call-of-duty-movie-paramount/ The first trailer for Scream 7 is out and Sidney Prescott (Neve Campbell) is back! The new movie finds Ghostface coming after Sidney, her daughter Tatum (a tribute to Rose McGowan's character from the first film), and her husband. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJrghaPJ0RY Robert Englund, who plays legendary villain Freddy Krueger in A Nightmare on Elm Street, served as a marriage witness for two fans ahead of their Halloween wedding. https://people.com/robert-englund-was-marriage-witness-for-a-nightmare-on-elm-street-fans-exclusive-11836520 Jesse Eisenberg is donating his kidney to a person in need. You know, Lex Luthor in Zack Snyder's DC Extended Universe . . . or Mark Zuckerberg in "The Social Network". AND FINALLYHere is Lern's Top 6 Favorite Scary Movies that you should watch this weekend:1. The Witch2. The Shining3. Hereditary4. The Conjuring5. It Miniseries, or the new movies, whatever!6. Return to OzHappy Halloween!AND THAT IS YOUR CRAP ON CELEBRITIES!Follow The Rizzuto Show @rizzshow on all your favorite social media, including YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, and more. Connect with The Rizzuto Show online at 1057thepoint.com/RizzShowSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

On September 5, 1973, the first and only Buckingham Nicks album was released. It wasn't a huge hit, but it was how the world was first introduced to the music of Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham, before they went on to become members of Fleetwood Mac. Their time together in Fleetwood Mac led to some of the best-selling, most critically acclaimed, and most influential albums of all time. Their individual talents, their musical chemistry together, and the ups and downs of their romantic relationship all eventually became legendary. And yet, despite all that, the Buckingham Nicks album went out of print not long after it came out. For over 50 years, it wasn't available, until it finally got re-mastered and re-released in September 2025. So for this episode, I spoke to both Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham about the making of one of the songs from that album, called “Frozen Love.” It's the only song on the album where they're credited as co-writers, and it's the song that led Mick Fleetwood to invite Lindsey Buckingham to join Fleetwood Mac. But Lindsey would only join if Stevie could, too, and that's how that story began. So this episode is about a beginning and an ending. It's the story of how Stevie and Lindsey first met, and how they made "Frozen Love," and how that song really led to the end of their band. I also want to mention that not only was Buckingham Nicks out of print for all those decades, no one has heard the isolated tracks that you're about to hear. To make this episode, there was an epic search for the original master tape from Sound City, the studio where they recorded the album with producer Keith Olsen. It took months, but the tape was finally tracked down and digitized, and it feels very special to be able to present this for the first time here, along with the memories and stories from Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks. For more info, visit songexploder.net/buckingham-nicks.

MUSICBon Jovi will return to the road for their first tour since 2022 when Jon Bon Jovi lost his voice, which required surgery.This announcement comes after a much documented vocal cord surgery and rehab process seen in their Hulu docu-series Thank You, Goodnight: The Bon Jovi Story. Jon says, “I've spoken extensively on my gratitude but I will say it again, I'm deeply grateful that the fans and the brotherhood of this band have been patient and allowed me the time needed to get healthy and prepare for touring. I'm ready and excited!”The shows are:7/7, 9, 12 & 14 - New York, NY - Madison Square Garden8/28 - Edinburgh, SCO - Murrayfield Stadium8/30 - Dublin, IE - Croke Park9/4 - London, UK - Wembley StadiumAll dates are subject to change and tickets for New York go on sale on October 31st at 10am ET at BonJovi.com. Barbie just released a second Stevie Nicks doll, this time inspired by the cover of her solo debut album, "Bella Donna". She wears a flowy white dress and tall white boots, and comes with a microphone and a black top hat. https://creations.mattel.com/products/barbie-music-series-stevie-nicks-bella-donna-doll-jbj45· Fans are convinced that Fleetwood Mac are set to reunite for their 50th anniversary after Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham both shared lyrics from one of their early songs on Instagram. https://societyofrock.com/fleetwood-mac-50th-anniversary-reunion-rumors/ The Cult's Ian Astbury and Billy Duffy have revealed that they're splitting for a spell after their current tour wraps up. https://themusicuniverse.com/the-cult-announces-touring-hiatus/ Last week's death of founding KISS guitarist Ace Frehley is under investigation by the Morris County, New Jersey Medical Examiner. https://www.tmz.com/2025/10/22/ace-frehley-toxicology-report-new-jersey/ The official documentary about the late Iron Maiden's second singer Paul Di'Anno, Di'Anno: Iron Maiden's Lost Singer, will be released next year. Di'Anno died a year ago this past Tuesday, October 21st, at 66 from an aortic dissection after being in poor health for a number of years. https://www.instagram.com/p/DQGF3FXDf0D/ Metallica's Kirk Hammett, a diehard horror fan, has shared his three most cherished pieces of memorabilia from the genre. His three picks, as shared on 'The Metallica Report' podcast, are: https://open.spotify.com/show/3lQ1tOcsLQsgBViuttVzAX?si=779842bdf6094add&nd=1&dlsi=576f94cecc504624 TOP TALK SHOWS GUESTS:Jimmy Fallon has Nobody Wants This actress Kristen Bell and Dave Franco from Regretting You.Stephen Colbert has Ben Stiller and comic Tig NotaroSeth Meyers has Leslie JonesDON'T MISS TV:Grey's Anatomy (ABC)Georgie and Mandy's First Marriage (CBS)Ghosts (CBS)Hell's Kitchen (FOX)Special Forces: World's Toughest Test (FOX)Law & Order (NBC)All listings are subject to change.The widower of Suzanne Somers has helped create an AI clone of the late actress. https://variety.com/2025/tv/news/suzanne-somers-ai-clone-created-after-death-1236558266/ HGTV is making sure to give viewers fresh episodes of House Hunters all of next year. https://variety.com/2025/tv/news/hgtv-house-hunters-400-episodes-property-brothers-spinoff-1236558906/ MOVING ON INTO MOVIE NEWS:Check out the trailer for the Eddie Murphy documentary, "Being Eddie". https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/eddie-murphy-netflix-doc-favorite-tv-show-ridiculousness-1236406944/ Apple TV made a five-part docuseries about Martin Scorsese, unimaginatively titled "Mr. Scorsese". It includes interviews with the biggest names in showbiz. But one guy will not be in there: Joe Pesci. Director Rebecca Miller says he was the only person to say NO. AND FINALLY If you're struggling to decide what to watch for a spooky movie night, a comedy might be a winner for everyone, even the scaredy cats.Here's a list of the 15 Best Horror Comedies AND THAT IS YOUR CRAP ON CELEBRITIES!Follow The Rizzuto Show @rizzshow on all your favorite social media, including YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, and more. Connect with The Rizzuto Show online at 1057thepoint.com/RizzShowSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Next week, I'm going to be publishing an episode with Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham about the making of the song “Frozen Love,” from their only album as the duo Buckingham Nicks. That song is what eventually led to them joining Fleetwood Mac. So in anticipation of next week's episode, I thought it would be great to go back seven years and revisit this Fleetwood Mac episode from 2018, about the making of “Go Your Own Way.” I hope you enjoy it, and I hope you'll come back to hear the Buckingham Nicks episode.-Lindsey Buckingham is a singer-songwriter, a guitarist, and a producer. In 1974, he joined the band Fleetwood Mac, along with Stevie Nicks, his girlfriend at the time. A few year later, in 1977, Fleetwood Mac released the album Rumours, which would go on to sell over 40 million copies and become the eighth highest-selling album in history. In this episode, Lindsey Buckingham breaks down “Go Your Own Way," a song he wrote for that album about his relationship with Stevie Nicks.For more, visit songexploder.net/fleetwood-mac.