Podcasts about Butler County

Il 22 febbraio 1985, una bambina di otto anni scompare senza lasciare traccia. Il suo nome è Cherrie Mahan, e il suo caso diventerà uno dei più misteriosi casi di scomparsa infantile negli Stati Uniti.Quel pomeriggio, Cherrie torna da scuola a bordo dello scuolabus nella zona rurale di Butler County. Scende alla fermata vicino alla sua casa e viene vista per l'ultima volta mentre cammina lungo la strada verso la sua abitazione.Ma la bambina non arriverà mai a casa.Quando la madre si accorge che Cherrie non è rientrata, scatta immediatamente l'allarme. Le ricerche coinvolgono volontari, polizia e agenti federali. Nonostante le indagini e centinaia di segnalazioni, nessuna traccia concreta della bambina viene mai trovata.Un dettaglio inquietante emerge dalle testimonianze: alcuni bambini riferiscono di aver visto un furgone blu con un murale dipinto sul lato aggirarsi nella zona quel giorno. Il veicolo diventa uno degli indizi più discussi dell'intero caso, ma non verrà mai identificato con certezza.Negli anni, l'immagine di Cherrie appare su cartoni del latte e poster di bambini scomparsi, diventando uno dei volti simbolo delle campagne per i minori scomparsi negli Stati Uniti.A distanza di decenni, il destino di Cherrie Mahan rimane sconosciuto. Nessun corpo è stato trovato, nessun responsabile è stato arrestato. Il caso resta uno dei più lunghi misteri irrisolti di scomparsa infantile in Pennsylvania.

This week I'm back in Pennsylvania and analyzing Bigfoot sightings in Butler County! Many of my listeners have told me about Butler and the great Bigfoot habitat there, and I found some really interesting encounters! A man camping with Boy Scouts at Muskrat Cove hears wood knocks that seem to be communicating; a fisherman is spooked by tree knocks and rock clacks coming from shore; campers hear something near their campfire and see a Bigfoot with glowing red eyes; a driver witnesses a late-night road crossing as Sasquatch walks calmly in front of the car; a biker sees a hairy, bipedal creature; two hunters encounter Sasquatch drinking from a creek; and two men on ATV run into a Bigfoot that roared and threw rocks at them. Bigfoot definitely seems to be stalking the residents of Butler County!Chapters:1:52 - Butler County, Bigfoot, and the Brooklyn Bridge3:47 - A man camping at Moraine State Park hears wood knocks9:56 - A fisherman on Lake Arthur hears strange sounds in the woods15:37 - Campers sitting around a campfire see Bigfoot watching them 22:06 - A driver has a roadside Bigfoot encounter29:24 - Pennsylvania Bigfoot Society map and stories30:24 - A biker sees Bigfoot on Cornplater Road in Cabot, Pennsylvania31:23 - Two hunters observe Bigfoot drinking water and sniffing the air32:29 - Two men on ATVs have rocks thrown at them by a tall, hairy creature34:20 - Final Thoughts on Butler County Bigfoot#bigfoot #pennsylvania #cryptids Links!Follow us on Social media!Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/oddanduntold/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/oddanduntoldWebsite: https://www.oddanduntold.comEmail me! : jason@oddanduntold.comBigfoot Sightings in Pennsylvania | Clearfield CountyBigfoot Sightings in Pennsylvania | Erie CountyBigfoot Sightings in Pennsylvania: Lycoming CountyMelissa's Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@beyondtheunveiled11BFRO Sightings in Butler County: https://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_county_reports.asp?state=PA&county=ButlerPennsylvania Bigfoot Society: https://www.pabigfoot.com/archived-sightings.html?utm_source=chatgpt.comCheck out Riversend, the band behind "Moonlight," our awesome theme music!Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/track/1yIwfeu2cH1kDZaMYxKOUe?si=NIUijnmsQe6LNWOsfZ2jPwRiversend Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RiversendbandRiversend Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/riversendband/

Welcome to another episode of TWIRx – This Week in Pharmacy, where we break down the most important developments impacting the pharmacy profession. This week's show features leaders from across community pharmacy, health systems, healthcare advocacy, and international patient engagement. From PBM reform to patient-centered care and health system growth in Western Pennsylvania, this episode brings together voices shaping the future of pharmacy. Sponsored by Sykes & Company, P.A. Accounting, tax strategy, and advisory services dedicated exclusively to independent pharmacy operators. Segment 1 Austin Murray Communications and Marketing Director – Sykes & Company, P.A. We kick off TWIRx with Austin Murray from Sykes & Company, discussing the NCPA Consumer Marketing Campaign designed to educate the public about the value of community pharmacies. Austin shares insights on: • The importance of telling the community pharmacy story directly to consumers • Why independent pharmacies remain essential healthcare access points • The evolving state of independent pharmacy nationwide • Continued momentum around PBM Reform • Strategic accounting and tax advantages pharmacy operators should understand in today's challenging reimbursement environment Austin also explains how pharmacy-focused accounting firms like Sykes & Company help owners navigate reimbursement pressure, tax planning, and business strategy. Segment 2 Mark Duman Pharmacy 50 Award Winner – United Kingdom International healthcare thought leader Mark Duman joins TWIRx to discuss one of the most important principles in healthcare transformation: The patient must come first. Mark shares his perspective on: • Why healthcare systems must remain patient-centered • How pharmacy can lead the way in improving patient outcomes • Lessons learned from patient engagement initiatives in the UK healthcare system • Why meaningful healthcare innovation always begins by focusing on the patient experience Mark emphasizes that when healthcare professionals keep the patient as the constant focus, better pharmacy care and stronger health systems follow. Segment 3 Dr. Laura Mark, PharmD Vice President of Pharmacy – Allegheny Health Network Next, we welcome Dr. Laura Mark, Vice President of Pharmacy at Allegheny Health Network (AHN), who shares exciting news about new pharmacy operations facilities recently built in Butler County, Pennsylvania. Todd and Laura also reflect on their shared roots growing up in Butler County, while discussing how AHN is investing in the future of pharmacy. Topics include: • The new pharmacy operations infrastructure in Western Pennsylvania • How AHN is expanding pharmacy services across the Greater Pittsburgh region • The role of health system pharmacy in improving access to care • Strategic positioning for future healthcare growth and integration AHN continues to strengthen its pharmacy operations as a key component of coordinated patient care throughout the region. Segment 4 Eric Pusey Independent Pharmacy Owner – Pennsylvania Closing out this week's episode, pharmacy owner Eric Pusey joins TWIRx to discuss the latest updates on PBM Reform in Pennsylvania. In 2024, Pennsylvania enacted Act 77, a landmark law aimed at increasing oversight and fairness in pharmacy benefit management. Eric explains how the law: • Grants new regulatory authority to the Pennsylvania Insurance Department • Restricts PBM patient steering to pharmacies owned or affiliated with benefit managers • Improves transparency requirements for PBM operations • Establishes payment protections intended to level the playing field for community pharmacies Patient steering practices have long limited competition and reduced patient choice. Eric shares why these reforms represent an important step toward protecting both patients and independent pharmacy providers across the Commonwealth. Listen & Subscribe Stay informed on the business, policy, and innovation shaping the pharmacy profession. Follow TWIRx – This Week in Pharmacy on the Pharmacy Podcast Network, featuring conversations with the leaders and advocates advancing pharmacy practice.

Hour 3 - Ted and John wrap up a Wednesday with business news from The Wichita Business Journal.

 Host Tricia Pritchard sits down with Dylann Yarrington to discuss an upcoming job fair that will give community members the opportunity to connect with local employers, explore career opportunities, and potentially find a new job. Butler County Career Fair - BC3 Calendar #Local #ButlerPA #Jobs

Democratic lawmakers push for state minimum standards, and we discuss the Trump administration's push to convert warehouses to ICE detention centers.

Your Nebraska Update headlines for today, Jan. 7, include: Nebraska lawmakers open legislative session facing $471 million budget shortfall, police oversight officials revoked badges from 26 Nebraska officers last year, new state report shows Nebraska's teacher shortage improved, Gov. Jim Pillen invites Nebraskans to take part in planning celebrations for nation's 250th birthday, another case of bird flu was confirmed in commercial poultry flock in Butler County, developer of Omaha's former Civic Auditorium site has sued city over delays.

AlabamaGovernor Ivey orders flags at half staff in Marshall County for Ronny ShumateNew hemp law requires edibles sold at licensed stores for those over 21Audit clears the former ADVA commissioner Kent Davis on financial conductEmergency services to expand in Butler County by non profit organizationImmigration and the Bible discussed on 1819 The Podcast by Pastor Rich LuskNationalUS military strikes 3 more narco terrorist vessels, killing 8 drug smugglers5 states start new restrictions on SNAP funds used for soda, candy&junk foodHouse Oversight seeks a hearing with MN governor over fraud in that stateSomalian daycare manager in MN claims all docs on kids were stolenMuslim Socialist Zohran Mamdani sworn in as mayor of NYCRecent poll shows more Americans prayed on NYE rather than imbibed

Butler County's proposed data centers spur concerns from residents and business owners.

Options for Using Ad Hoc Payments, Part 1 Options for Using Ad Hoc Payments, Part 2 Gifts for Gardeners   00:01:05 – Options for Using Ad Hoc Payments, Part 1: Jenny Ifft, K-State Flinchbaugh agricultural policy chair, and Brady Brewer, K-State associate professor in agricultural economics, begins today's show discussing ad hoc payments and what producers need to consider when receiving these one-time government payments.   00:12:05 – Options for Using Ad Hoc Payments, Part 2: The show and ad hoc conversation continues with Jenny Ifft and Brady Brewer. Top 5 Considerations for Managing Large, One-Time Government Payments Ag Profitability Conferences   00:23:05 – Gifts for Gardeners: K-State Extension horticulture agent for Butler County, Calla Edwards, ends the show noting a survey done among Master Gardeners and gardening enthusiasts that revealed their favorite tools, supplies and plants.      Send comments, questions or requests for copies of past programs to ksrenews@ksu.edu.   Agriculture Today is a daily program featuring Kansas State University agricultural specialists and other experts examining ag issues facing Kansas and the nation. It is hosted by Shelby Varner and distributed to radio stations throughout Kansas and as a daily podcast.   K‑State Extension is a short name for the Kansas State University Agricultural Experiment Service, a program designed to generate and distribute useful knowledge for the well‑being of Kansans. Supported by county, state, federal and private funds, the program has county Extension offices statewide. Its headquarters is on the K‑State campus in Manhattan. For more information, visit www.ksre.ksu.edu. K-State Extension is an equal opportunity provider and employer.

Coach Colin : https://www.youtube.com/@coachcolin 00:00:00 – Meet Coach Collin: conspiracy YouTuber origins, YouTube strikes, Union of the Unwanted and learning to tiptoe around platform rules. 00:04:50 – Alex Jones Clips of the Week: Fetterman "cyborg" on Rogan, rants about ancient studio cameras, bankruptcy auction math and a torrent of quotes that guarantee no YouTube monetization. 00:14:08 – Where OBDM actually lives (Spotify, Rumble, Twitch, Twitter), how they handle edits for YouTube, and the decision to leave the insane Jones montage fully intact. 00:18:41 – Ian/"In Carol" stream breakdown: Rob McCoy's sermon vanishes mid-watch, backup found on Apple Podcasts, then an instant flood of "just retire man" Twitch bots that looks like targeted harassment of a small creator. 00:24:18 – Threat-modeling the bot swarm: JavaScript trackers vs malware vs state-level profiling of dissident channels, plus why Ian's modest van-life income and Candace Owens ties might still put him on a watchlist. 00:33:51 – Tesla Cybertruck bomb at Trump's Vegas hotel: Green Beret on leave, Turo-rented Cybertruck, explosives and a now-classified phone manifesto describing gravity-propulsion drones launched from submarines. 00:38:57 – Butler County and Charlie Kirk parallels: same kinds of enemies (intel community, defense contractors, radicals), bizarre rooftop security failures and fast, tidy crime-scene cleanups that feel pre-scripted. 00:43:08 – Trump's shooting as message, not stunt: why staging it himself would be nearly impossible, Schumer's "six ways from Sunday" warning, and the sense that Trump is oddly content with a murky investigation. 00:53:02 – Epstein as "Mr. Deep State": Maxwell-to-Epstein handoff, Zorro Ranch, cloning obsessions, Powerball luck, Mongolia-Israel security deals, Harvard office access and a role far beyond "simple" sex trafficking. 00:56:45 – The files vs Trump's legacy: Cash Patel, Dan Bongino and Pam Bondi's conflicting claims about thousands of hours of tape, and why the base wants names released before Epstein becomes Trump's eternal asterisk. 01:04:29 – Dan Aykroyd's The UnBelievable and the Ariel School sighting: kids in Zimbabwe, telepathic "save the trees" messages, and using the case to argue UFOs are long-running interdimensional or demonic entities. 01:08:38 – CE5 sky-summoning, Crowley, Jack Parsons, Tesla and Hollywood rituals: "biological drone" greys, summoning things that pretend to be aliens, and celebrity plastic surgery as possible demonic face-morphing experiment. 01:14:55 – Madonna and Lil' Kim as "grey-coded" figures, then wacky news: Taco Bell's limited Baja Blast pie, a listener buying a half-eaten one for Thanksgiving, and using junk food as a window into cultural weirdness. 01:18:44 – NASA's awful comet 3I/ATLAS blue-dot photos, its quiet promotion to intelligence agency status, speculation about reverse-engineering evil interdimensionals and a tangent into Megadeth's dream of a final show on the moon. 01:33:02 – Stolen child's brain and organ markets: rare disease research derailed when her brain is sold off, theories about rich collectors, legal rulings that organs can be resold, and wild pricing for skulls and bones online. 01:41:29 – Linux Torvalds on "vibe coding": AI as okay for learning but bad for maintenance, dev layoffs, and the hosts' own experience with AI code review, hallucinated links and having to scold chatbots like lazy employees. 01:46:49 – Chatbots melting minds: Canadian user pushed into math-savior psychosis by ChatGPT, multi-plaintiff lawsuits after suicides, a man who fell in love with his bot wife, and the theory that these systems are temporary demon housing. 01:59:05 – Pumpkin-everything Thanksgiving: stuffed ravioli, cheesecake crumble, pumpkin butter ice cream, then Coach Collin's plugs, OBDM's schedule, Discord jokes and the "keep watching the skies" sign-off aimed at NASA's lousy photos. Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research ▀▄▀▄▀ CONTACT LINKS ▀▄▀▄▀ ► Website: http://obdmpod.com ► Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/obdmpod ► Full Videos at Odysee: https://odysee.com/@obdm:0 ► Twitter: https://twitter.com/obdmpod ► Instagram: obdmpod ► Email: ourbigdumbmouth at gmail ► RSS: http://ourbigdumbmouth.libsyn.com/rss ► iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/our-big-dumb-mouth/id261189509?mt=2  

As the Trump administration ramps up deportations, ICE has turned to local law enforcement through a program that has existed for decades. Under the agreements, sheriffs’ offices hold undocumented immigrants in jail before they are transferred. Butler County, Ohio, Sheriff Richard Jones reinstated his county’s partnership when Trump returned to office. He joined Geoff Bennett to discuss more. PBS News is supported by - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/about/funders. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy

As the Trump administration ramps up deportations, ICE has turned to local law enforcement through a program that has existed for decades. Under the agreements, sheriffs’ offices hold undocumented immigrants in jail before they are transferred. Butler County, Ohio, Sheriff Richard Jones reinstated his county’s partnership when Trump returned to office. He joined Geoff Bennett to discuss more. PBS News is supported by - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/about/funders. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy

What should I do if I have a heart for the foster care community, but I can't open my home to foster right now? We hear this question often. Sometimes it comes from individuals who have fostered before and are simply in a season where they need to pause. Other times we hear it from people who don't feel called to foster, but still have a deep passion to support vulnerable children and families. No matter which group you fall into, there are so many meaningful roles you can step into to make a difference. Today, we want to highlight one such role—and a foster parent who stepped into this role when her home was at capacity. We're honored to introduce you to one of our TFI Advocates, Hanna Thrower. Hanna is a dedicated TFI Advocate serving Butler County, Alabama. Her heart for foster care began at a young age, and since then Hanna and her husband, Caleb, have fostered over 20 children, welcomed one adopted child into their family, and are raising three biological children. In this episode, Hanna shares about her foster care journey, how she got started as an Advocate and earned the trust of her local agency, advice she would give someone considering the role of a TFI Advocate, and much more. Find resources mentioned and more in the show notes for this episode: https://theforgotteninitiative.org/hanna-thrower-282/

A weekly magazine-style radio show featuring the voices and stories of Asians and Pacific Islanders from all corners of our community. The show is produced by a collective of media makers, deejays, and activists. On tonight's episode, we're focusing on a particular segment of our immigrant and refugee community, Hmong and Bhutanese refugees. Both of these targeted communities are stateless with no land to call their own, and their deportation carries the very real danger of disappearance and death. Robin Gurung from Asian Refugees United and Kao Ye Thao from Hmong innovating Politics, discuss their community and personal refugee stories, and talk about the intersection of the US' deeply broken immigration and criminal legal systems, otherwise known as crimmigration. We also get to hear from the wives of two detained refugees, one Bhutanese and one Hmong, who are currently fighting to keep their families together and to protect their loved ones from the dangers of deportation as stateless people.   Important Links: Hmong Innovating Politics: Website | Instagram Asian Refugees United: Website | Instagram Bhutanese American Refugee Rights website Transcript Swati Rayasam: You are tuned in to Apex Express on KPFA. My name is Swati Rayasam. Since the onset of the Trump administration, immigrant and refugee communities have been under increased attack, being kidnapped in broad daylight, detained in unsanitary and unsafe conditions, and deported to countries many of them barely know. All without due process or communication to their loved ones and communities. On tonight's episode, we're focusing on a particular segment of our immigrant and refugee community, Hmong and Bhutanese refugees. Both of these targeted communities are stateless with no land to call their own, and their deportation carries the very real danger of disappearance and death. Robin Gurung from Asian Refugees United and Kao Ye Thao from Hmong innovating Politics, discuss their community and personal refugee stories, and talk about the intersection of the US' deeply broken immigration and criminal legal systems, otherwise known as crimmigration. We also get to hear from the wives of two detained refugees, one Bhutanese and one Hmong, who are currently fighting to keep their families together and to protect their loved ones from the dangers of deportation as stateless people. I also want to note because this is a rapidly developing situation, that this episode was recorded on August 13th, 2025, and is being released on August 28th, 2025. For the most recent updates, please go to bhutaneserefugeerights.org or check out the Pardon Refugees campaign. Now, here's Miko. Miko: Welcome to Apex Express. Thank you so much for being here today. I'm so glad to bring you all together in this time. I'm wondering if I could ask you each to introduce yourselves and tell us a little bit about the community your organization serves and what you do, and let's start with Kao Ye. Kao Ye: Hello everyone, and thank you for making space- my name is Kao Ye Tao. I use she her pronouns, and I work as the director of policy and partnerships with an organization called Hmong Innovating Politics. We are an organization that serves Hmong youth and families in Sacramento and Fresno, which holds two of our largest Hmong American communities in California. And our work with Hmong youth and families is really about developing their leadership to organize towards social justice and to get the resources that their communities deserve. Miko: Thank you, Kao Ye and Robin, could you please introduce yourself? Robin: Sure. My name is Robin Gurung. I use he, him, his, I'm from the Nepali speaking Bhutanese community. I live in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. my role at Asian Refugees United is the co-founder and the co-executive director. We have our program in California and Pennsylvania. California programs are, are serving Asian diaspora and then, Pennsylvania programs are focused serving the Nepal speaking Bhutanese community. We work in the intersection of arts and healing, storytelling, civic engagement, leadership development. Thank you. Miko: Thanks Robin and I am your host Miko Lee, lead producer at Apex Express. And all of us are part of a network called AACRE Asian Americans for Civil Rights and Equality, which is a network of progressive Asian American groups. So you all work with refugee populations. I'm wondering if you could tell a little bit more about the backstory of your community, and also if you feel comfortable about how you personally came to be a refugee in the United States. And, Robin, I'd love to start with you on that one. Robin: Sure. My community is Nepali speaking, Bhutanese refugee community. And we are ethnically Nepali, which means culture wise and language wise we speak Nepali and follow the Nepali culture tradition. Our ancestors like maybe in 18 hundreds, 19 hundreds migrated from Nepal to Bhutan and became the citizen of that country. And most people don't know about Bhutan, it's a very tiny country between China and India. And, if people know about Bhutan, then people know it through the cross national happiness concept, Bhutan is considered the happiest country in the world. So our ancestors were in mostly in the southern area of Bhutan for generations, they became the citizen. They had their own home, their own land. And then later, 1980s, early nineties, there was a policy by the government of Bhutan, which is the monarchy government system- king rules the country. They brought a policy called One Nation, One People Policy. Which means all different groups of people would have to follow the same culture, same religion, kind of follow the same dress code and because of that policy all people were forced to stay away from following our own culture or our own religion, which, most of our folks were Hindu. Our people protested against it and because of that, the government expelled over a hundred thousand of our community members. And, they expelled to India and then from like India wouldn't allow us to stay and we had to resettle in Nepal in seven different refugee camps under different international agencies like U-N-H-C-R and other agencies. Miko: And then Robin, can you tell a little bit about your personal story and how you came here? Robin: Yeah. Yeah. So 1992 is when my family had to leave Bhutan. And at that time I was three years old. I remember growing up in a refugee camp in Nepal, from three years until I was 23 years. So 20 years of my life I was in a refugee camp in Nepal. And in 2012, I came to US through the refugee resettlement program introduced to our camps in 2008, and through it US agreed to resettle 60,000 of our committee members. By 2017, I think US has resettled about 70 to 80,000 of our Bhutanese community members.   Miko: Thank you so much for sharing. Kao Ye I wonder if you could talk about your community and the refugee resettlement program that your community was a part of. Kao Ye: The Hmong American community, or just the Hmong community overall, is a group that's indigenous to East and Southeast Asia. And through our ancient history, we've always been a stateless, people fighting for our autonomy to live to practice our customs and our culture. And particularly where we come into this history of refugee is during the Vietnam War where many Hmong people, alongside other ethnic groups in Laos, were caught in the crossfire of the United States conflict in Southeast Asia. And so with the Vietnam War. The Hmong as well as many other ethnic communities that lived, in the hills and the mountains were recruited in covert operations by the CIA to fight back against the Vietnamese, the Northern Vietnamese communist forces, as well as the Putet Lao. And so once the US withdrew from Southeast Asia, it created a vacuum of conflict and violence that our people had to escape from in order to survive. And so after the Vietnam War in 1975, we saw the mass displacement of many Southeast Asian ethnic communities, including Hmong families. And that is where my history starts because my parents were born in Laos and because of this war, they fled to Thailand refugee camps and lived there for a few years until they were able to come to the United States in 1992. And I'm actually I'm a child of refugees and so what I know about this part of my history comes from the stories of my grandparents who raised me as well as what little I could learn in the textbooks of public education. And so it wasn't actually until going to college and. Being able to access more of this literature, this history that I really learned about what the United States had done in Southeast Asia and the ramifications of that for myself and my family and so many others, refugees that. Have to have had to resettle in the United States. And so it's definitely a history that runs very close, because we have relatives that live through that refugee experience. And so it is very well and alive. And so as we now approach this conversation around ICE and deportations, it really is a reminder of the trauma that our people face, but are still facing as a people that have been seen as disposable to the United States government. Miko: Thanks, Kao Ye. Let's talk a little bit more about that. But first I wanna say, did either of you ever hear about refugees in your textbooks? I never did. So I'm wondering if, you said you learned a little bit about that from textbooks. Was that something you learned in public education. Kao Ye: I did not learn about refugees or refugees experience. I learned about the war and as a Hmong kid it brought me so much delight to try to scroll through the history books just to see if Hmong people were mentioned. And even then the refugee experience was not ever something that we talked about. I felt like definitely not in, in high school. I think it was college really, that then started to articulate those terms and that Southeast Asian identity, that is really where I think I also became politicized in that. Miko: Yeah, because I think in textbooks there might be a little section on the Vietnam War, but it does not talk about the, all the Southeast Asian ethnic peoples that actually fought in the war. We have to dig that information out on our own, but I wanna move us to what is happening right now. So the Trump administration has created. Culture of fear among immigrants and refugees, these ICE raids and disappearances. It is so intense and using immigrants as a fear tool to prop up white supremacy is so blatant right now. I'm wondering if you can each talk about, how this administration's policies are impacting your communities. And, Robin, let's start with you. What is happening right now? I know since the end of March, can you share a little bit about what's been happening with Bhutanese Americans? Robin: Sure. Sure. So our people were settled to this country with the hope that this is going to be our home. But starting March of this year, with the new policies of this current administration, we started seeing abrupt, ICE arrest in our communities. People were picked up from home, their workplaces, and from their ICE, check-ins. And, since March, within I would say two to three months, more than 72 of our community members were picked up, mostly from Pennsylvania and then Ohio, and also from other states like New York, Georgia, North Dakota. So until now, we have, the records of at least 50 people who have been deported to Bhutan and at least 72 who are detained. So more than 30 people are [at risk] of getting detained. The nature of the ICE arrests that we have seen is we don't know whether the due processes were followed. They made it so hard for the families to look for attorneys, and also to track their family members. Within days family members would find their loved ones disappeared, and then they wouldn't be able to talk to them they wouldn't be able to track them and provide the support that they needed. So for us as a community organization we did not anticipate this and we were not prepared for this. And, and we didn't have the infrastructure to really address this, right? So it became such challenging work for us. Like within days we had to mobilize our people. We had to mobilize our teams to help family members with legal support, emotional support, mobilize our community members to update what's happening with this situation. The rapid response work, know your rights clinics that we had to set up. So on one hand it's the detention and deportation in the US and on the other hand, when our people were deported to Bhutan, what we're seeing is within 24 hours, they are being expelled from Bhutan to India, and then from India because India wouldn't accept them as well, they had to enter Nepal because for most of these Deportee, they're very young, they were born in refugee camps, and for most of them, the only known land is Nepal. Right. And they had to enter Nepal without documentation. And then some of them were found in refugee camps. And most of them are unknown. Like they're, they have disappeared. Miko: So that is so much over the last few months that ARU has had to step in and take a leading, role in this situation that has impacted the Bhutanese community from focusing on wellness and youth development to suddenly translating materials into Nepali, translating, know Your Rights materials into Nepali, hosting all these different events, the work that you have been doing is really powerful. I wonder if you could share with us the story of Mohan Karki, who is a community member that's currently detained in Michigan. Robin: Sure. So, Mohan Karki is now in detention in Michigan and he's a community member member who lived in Ohio. So he was detained by ICE during his regular ICE check-in , I believe in April, they detained him and then he was taken for deportation. And last minute, the families and the community had to come together and then appeal the deportation. Right now he's in Michgan detention center and his wife, who was pregnant and had due date, when Mohan was being deported on June 10, is now fighting day and night to stop the deportation and also to bring Mohan home. Right now, Asian Refugees United and other community partners, like AWPAL, Asian Law Caucus are working together to support Mohan's family, to bring Mohan home and also running a, GoFund me fundraiser, to help the family pay the legal fees. Miko: Thanks Robin. And we're gonna listen to Tikas story right now. Tika Basnet: Hi, my name is Tika Basnet I'm from Ohio and I'm fighting my husband deportation case. So on April seven, a lot of people told us not to go to the ICE office, but my husband wanna follow the rules, he wanna go there. We went to the Westerville office inside And we sit down, we talk to each other. Nothing will go wrong. And suddenly ICE told us to come inside and they told us that my husband got travel documents from Bhutan. I told them like it is not safe for my husband to get deport in Bhutan, all the Bhutanese people run away in 1990s due to the ethnic cleansing and if my husband get deported in Bhutan, he will either gonna get killed, tortured, disappeared, imprisoned, I don't know what will happen, but they did not listen to me. So they detained my husband and I came at the parking lot and his mom saw me coming alone. So they start crying and I told them like, Mohan is gone and this is the last time I think I'm gonna see my husband. the time that my husband was taken away from Butler County on June 10 I was 41 weeks pregnant. I was supposed to deliver on, June 10. But no, I told the doctor I change my delivery time. I am not gonna go now like I need to fight for my husband. Like, When Bhutanese people started coming here in 2007. Third party promise us that in here in United States, we will get our identity. That identity will never taken away. They promise us that the way Bhutan take our identity, they will not gonna do that. we thought that this is our home. We thought that having a green card, having a citizenship, it is permanently, but no, we are, we all are wrong. And that identity is taken away within a second. And we became stateless again. So, my husband, Mohan Karki he just arrived in the United States he been here less than two years when the incident happened. He did not understand the law. He did not understand the culture. He did not know anything. My husband he was only 17 years old, high school student coming from school to home. On the way to reach their apartment, there is one private house. They are just trying to go to the shortcut from the backyard. So some neighbor call 9 1 1. And that only one mistake lead to deportation. The place that we come from, there is no boundaries. In Nepal, we are allowed to go anybody property We are allowed to walk somebody else house and because of the cultural difference, he's paying price right now. At that time, nobody can speak English. They cannot understand what police were saying and Nepali interpreter told my husband that if you say I'm guilty, you'll out of prison soon. But if you did not say I'm guilty, you'll end up in prison for 20 to 25 years. High school student he's scared he just say, I'm guilty, and he did not know what is deportation mean. He did not know what he was signing. Nobody informed him what he was signing. That signing was deportation. What happened in 2013 is impacting us in 2025 and still he wish he did not cross somebody else backyard at that time. He wish he knew that he wasn't allowed to cross somebody else's backyard. I don't know what will our future is gonna be, but I hope that he gets second chance. His community love him. He love people. He was working as a truck driver. He paid taxes. He was supporting his parent. He was supporting me. My daughter deserve to have a father. You know, she's just one month. But now the dream that I was hoping one day I'm gonna build with my husband that is taken away and I'm left alone with this child. I already went through a lot without him, i'm the only one that fighting for my husband case. The deportation is not only breaking one family, but it is breaking everybody, the community and the family. And I hope that people can support me so I can fight for my husband case. Like I really need so many attorney. I need criminal attorney to open up his 2013 case. And I have wonderful, wonderful attorney, my husband get stay off removal, but that is not guarantee my husband can get deport anytime. The attorney fee are really expensive and he still needs support. The US made bhutanese people a promise of home. We belong here. Stop the detention and deportation. Stop deporting Bhutanese people. We are stateless. We don't have country, don't have a home. This is our home. US is our home. We belong here. Miko: Of the 72 people, Mohan is the first Bhutanese refugee that we actually have a stay of release on, as Robin was saying earlier, most of the folks were moved from state to state, so you can't really get a lawyer in that time. And as we all know, nonprofit immigration lawyers are under a lot of stress because of the attack of this administration. So it makes it incredibly complicated, let alone the legal fees that it costs to help support people going through this. And right now, Mohan has a stay on his, deportation and the lawyer that they do have is drafting up a letter to be able to release him into the community and also overturn his original case that happened as a minor in Georgia, which was a ridiculous case where he was leaving school, early high school, first year in the country, leaving high school early, and walked with his friends across a backyard. And the neighbor that they walked through their yard called the police, and they arrested him along with his friends for trespassing, they gave him paperwork that he didn't even understand. He signed it along with a interpreter they gave him false information to say he'd be locked up for 25 years, or if he signed this papers, that would be fine. He could go and what the papers said was it changed his charge into a felony and had him sign a letter of deportation. So this is part of the failure of our American legal system that we're not providing adequate information. It is a lack of due process. Thankfully, the work that Asian Law Caucus and United States of Stateless and other community activists are doing to call this out and help work with us is really critical. I wanna turn now to Kao Ye how this administrations is impacting Hmong refugees, and how is it similar or different to the experiences that Robin is describing for the Nepali speaking Bhutanese community? Kao Ye: I echoed many of the sentiments and the challenges that Robin shared around what we as nonprofit, grassroots organizations are having to build and grapple with just the limited infrastructure that we have to deal with the current ICE disappearances and deportation and all the support that's needed for the families. And so thank you Robin, for sharing that. I wanted to start broad a little bit because I think that this Trump administration is happening in the backdrop of the 50th year commemoration of the end of the wars in Southeast Asia and the refugee resettlement. We had over 1.1 million Southeast Asians resettle to the United States, the largest immigration resettlement, in American history. And so this year brings so many complexities, I think as a Southeast Asian community where there is a level of looking back at policies that have impacted us and have failed, but also looking forward what is the community that we are building together to move and progress together. And so there are those complexities, I think as the fact that it's the 50th year and like, this is what we're dealing with. This is the trauma that we are grappling with. And so I wanted to put that out front and center because even I think within our communities , there is no necessarily enlightenment in terms of how we talk about what is happening to our people and how they're getting deported unjustly. So that is why it is so important to have this dialogue within our communities as well as the solidarity that we also share with the Bhutanese community and other immigrant groups too. I think that in many of our Southeast Asian communities, their reasons for deportations is very tied to past convictions, and so this is the intersection between criminal law and immigration law. And it makes it complex because our people are now having to consult not just an immigration lawyer, but like criminal attorney so that they could really assess like what kind of relief they can get in order to mitigate, impending deportations. And then also miko you had shared about the lack of adequate legal service or representation because many of these folks, right, that have had these convictions that have now served their time and are simply members of our community that make our community rich. They are now having to revisit removal orders that they signed, thinking that, oh, nothing necessarily was gonna happen because they don't have a repatriation agreement. So, in our community, there was never a thought that we were going to be deported back to our home country because of that policy. And so that is a big contributing factor as to why the Hmong community, we don't have that infrastructure to really support our members who have gone through the criminal justice system and now have those removal orders. And so HIP, as well as many other grassroots. Sadly we did have to scramble to put this know your rights information together because again, I don't think that there was visibility in the need for us in this conversation around immigration Southeast Asians are a segment of our API community and so it just, I think, multiplied the invisibility that we already faced as a group of Southeast Asians. And so the support was definitely not there. And, to Robin's point, we did our best to try to put this information together to our community, starting with the Know Your Rights. And then we also realized like it was more complex than that, and that the legal supports were so necessary because everyone's case was different. I think what we're still dealing with now is that there's always been a lack of trust between our community members and government entities and nonprofit organizations. And so, if someone is dealing with the situation, they wanna go to, a partner that they trust to help them, even if they're not necessarily equipped to do that work, is that they're going to only the people that they trust because there is such a big mistrust. And so I think that, there is still the level of trust building that is needed to be done within our community so that folks feel comfortable to come to us or come to other people for support. And I think what makes me feel emotional is just when I hear about community members feeling hopeless and just feeling like there's nothing that they can do and that level of disempowerment to me, I think is something that is real. And I can't say that we can't combat it, but I think that it is about being able to find different outlets of support for them. Miko: Thank you for lifting that up. And just , in terms of the numbers, over three months, March, April and May, there were about 72 Bhutanese Americans that have been detained. And this is just kind of starting up with the Hmong community. So we had 15 that were detained from Minnesota and another 10 right now are being held in Michigan. And we also see this happening with Vietnamese, Laotian, Cambodians, and Myan folks. All of these folks as Kao Ye you're pointing out, have had common threads, which is connections with the system, with the criminal legal/ justice system and crimmigration is something that in the AACRE network we've been talking about and working on, which is really about the education to prison, to deportation pipeline. And one of the things that this administration had talked about is, let's get rid of all the murderers and the rapists. You know, this like scare language about people that are convicted criminals, let's get rid of them all. But the fact of the matter. The vast majority of all of these people are people like Mohan Karki, a cultural misunderstanding that happened when he was a child. Like Lou Yang, who is Hmong refugee detained in Michigan right now. Somebody who was involved in something as a kid, but has since then become a leader in the community. So let's take a moment and listen to the spouse of Lou Yang, a Hmong refugee detained in Michigan in July. Anne Vu: My name is Anne Vu and I come before you today with a heart full of hope. Sorrow and a plea for justice. I am a proud American, a mother of six, the daughter of Hmong refugees who would gain their citizenship, and the wife of a man called Lou Yang, who is now detained and faced with potential deportation from the only country that he's ever known. Lou has lived in Michigan since October, 1979. He was born stateless in a refugee camp in Nongkai Thailand and his family fled Laos due to persecution. His father and like many others, served with the United States force during the Vietnam War as part of the Secret War, recruited by CIA in Laos, a conflict that most Americans do not know has happened. The Hmong were recruited by the CIA as part of the Secret War to help America during the Vietnam War. But when the war ended and the US withdrew, we were as the Hmongs declared enemy of the state. What followed was genocide, polarization and persecution by the state, and it was because of our alliance, the promise made by the US government that the Hmong refugees were legally settled here under certain migration of refugee laws and acts. And Lou arrived here as a young, toddler in infancy. In 1997, he was arrested on an alleged accomplice in an attempt home invasion, second degree. He was in the vehicle at the time. He never entered the home. He literally was still a juvenile at that time. He had a court appointed attorney and was advised to take a plea without being told it would affect his immigration status for the rest of his life. This is the reality of our immigration system – long, complex, confusing and devastating, unforgiving. It is not built for people like us, people like Lou, people who have served their time, rebuilt their lives and have nowhere else to go. We've walked this legal path, we've stayed together in the lines, and yet we are here punished today. Lou has no other charges, no current legal issues, no history of violence. He is not a flight risk. He is not a danger to our public safety. He is a father, my husband, a son, a son-in-law, a grandson and a brother to many, and our leader and a provider to our community, and to my family. He renews his work authorization and follows every rule asked of him no matter how uncertain the future felt. Together, we've raised six beautiful children. They're all proud Americans. Lou has contributed to Michigan's economy for decades working in our automotive industry and now he is gone and all that he is built is unraveling and the community is heartbroken. We didn't come from wealth. We didn't have every opportunity handed to us because we didn't come seeking a land of opportunity. We came here because of survival. We had to build from the ground up. But the most important thing was Lou and I, we had each other. We had our families, our friends, and our neighbors. We had a shared commitment to build a better life, grounded in love, respect, and purpose. And somehow that's still not enough. For years, we were told like other Hmong families that Laos in Thailand would never take us back. And that has changed. In June, 2025 the US imposed a partial travel ban on Laos, citing visa overstays, and lack of deportation cooperation. And in response, Laos began issuing these documents under pressure. Today over 4,800, including Hmong, Myan, and the other ethnic minorities are facing removal to Laos and to many other countries, many have never stepped foot in a country that they are now being sent to. Lou is Stateless like many others that is detained with him. None of these countries recognize him. He was born in the Thailand refugee camp, it does not recognize him nor qualify him for any sort of Thai citizenship and I'll tell you guys right now if forced to return, he will face danger because of his family's deep ties to the CIA and United States military. Deporting him turns him, a civil servant and respected community leader, into a political casualty, it would be a grave and irreversible injustice. To deport him now is to punish him to death. Once again, 50 years later, as we celebrate resilience this year across the nation, we are now celebrating a fight within our own grounds, right here in United States, right here in Michigan. We're now fighting the same fight within our own country. Thousands of Southeast Asian Americans, many that entered legally admitted as refugees are being deported for decade old offenses they've longed paid for. America is our country. All we ask is the right to stay in the home that we've helped to build and work hard to protect. We are not seeking special treatment. We are asking for justice, compassion, and a second chance in this country to claim what we believe in. To Governor Whitmer and members of Congress and all elected officials, please help bring Lou and the many others home. Urge ICE and DHS to release him on humanitarian grounds. Help his case. Help us preserve the integrity of our laws and the dignity of our families. And to the public allies and the media. Please call our elected officials. Please call these offices. Please share Lou's story. We need voices. Voices louder than ours alone. It is hard times you guys. It is real. And I speak to you from the bottom of my heart. Please help me and our families in the many that are suffering. This is our home. These are our children. This is my husband and this is our fight. Let him come home. Let our families be whole again, and let America keep its promise. Thank you guys for hearing me. Miko: Lou Young is a community leader. Michigan, who actually runs a nonprofit in support of Hmong folks in that community, and is targeted and also has a stay of removal. So we're doing a targeted campaign for both of these folks, Lou Yang and Mohan Karki, to be able to get them released to overturn their original convictions and they also have spouses that are telling their stories and telling the impact these detentions have had. Because while this current administration talks about getting rid of criminals, what they are actually doing is breaking apart families and community. Swati Rayasam: You are tuned in to Apex Express on 94.1 KPFA, 89.3 KPFB in Berkeley, 88.1 KFCF in Fresno and online@kpfa.org. Coming up is Deporting the Pilgrim from the Anakbayan Long Beach Mayday Mix tape.   Swati Rayasam: That was please be strong, featuring Hushed, loudmouth and Joe handsome. And before that was deporting the pilgrim from the Unec Bayan Long Beach Mayday Mixtape. Now back to the show. Miko: I wanna shift us a little bit to talking about Asian american representation in the larger fabric of immigration justice in the United States. Mostly many of our Asian communities have been like isolated, not really involved in the broader immigration movement. And I'm wondering if you could talk a little bit about the difficulty and nuance of bringing your community struggle to the forefront because many of us heard about the Venezuelans and the Mexicans that have been deported and what was going on, but we don't hear as much about these stories of our Asian sisters and brothers. I wonder if one of you could give voice to that. Robin: Before going there can I add something to Miko: of course. Robin: crimmigration conversation? So when you all are sharing about that, I was thinking about, the justice system in this country and what we are seeing right now is a broken justice system. Like you said, Miko, where families are separated where families are broken, and what I don't understand is, when, let's say your loved one gets into trouble, makes a mistake, and gets into a trouble, then, as a human being, like, don't you want your loved ones to rebuild their lives? Like Yes, of course there is a system that you have to follow, the laws that you have to follow, but at the end, I think we all want our loved ones to come back, rebuild their lives, right? And what we're seeing in this country is they're constantly breaking the families. And I don't see how we are going to build a better future when we are constantly, hurting the families. And in the cases of detention and deportation, what we're seeing is the double punishment. Like the mistakes that they had made, but then throughout their life, they have to go through that, a continuous cycle of being punished. And not just the individuals, but their family members have also go through the challenges, the suffering, right? And in the case of Bhutanese from double punishment to double expulsion to this, the state of being statelessness. Right? So what kind of future we are imagining when an individual has to go through that continuous cycle of being punished and not having the opportunity to rebuild their lives. So that's a big question mark that I think, we all need to think about. To your later question around my community and the larger Asian American context or the national context. My community is relatively new to this country. We lived, almost two decades in a refugee camp, which was a enclosed camp. And our lives were dependent on foreign aids like UNHCR or ILWF. Pretty much I would say we had our own world over there. And for us to work outside the refugee camp was illegal. There was no laws that gave us the permission to work outside. So we were not pretty much exposed to the outer world. So for us to come to US was a big step. Which means pretty much from basic every day stuffs like, you know, using a bathroom, using a kitchen, taking a bus. All of those were foreign for us. So for our community to really tap into the education system, the political landscape of this country. And also like the experience of being expelled for voicing our, our opinions, for fighting for our rights. Right? So for us, for our community to kind of step in into the politics, it's like re-traumatizing ourselves. I would say there are a lot of barriers, multi-layered barriers for our community members to really tap into the larger political, like socio political landscape, from language barriers to culture barriers to education, to pretty much everything. So right now, the way our committee has been being attacked. It's a surprise to the community. And also it is like kind of traumatizing the community and taking us back to the same place of feeling, insecure, feeling like we don't have a home. And we did hope that this is legally, this is going to be a home. Because after coming to the US most of us became the legal citizens of this country and we started rebuilding our lives. Now it's kind of like going back to the same circle of statelessness. Miko: Thank you for sharing about that. Kao Ye, would you like to add to that? Kao Ye: When I think of the Hmong American community and even the Southeast Asian community and why the narratives of what is happening still feels very invisible. I think of how our community, we were assimilating for survival. And I speak on that as a child of my refugee parents and siblings where growing up we were taught to, listen, not speak out, not cause trouble. Go through the system, listen to authority, listen to law enforcement. And because of that, I feel it's shaped a culture of fear. Fear to dissent and fear to speak out because we care so much about the stability of our families. And we wanted to protect ourselves, because of everything we've gone through with the war. And we are finding that it's been challenging for our community members to come forward with their stories. Honestly, we're still sitting on that and we're still kind of sitting through like, why is there that tension? You know, I feel like folks are going through a lot and even folks have, our impacted loved ones, but they're afraid to tell their story because of fear of of retaliation. And so I think that there is a level of, I think that lack of even psychological safety, but real, physical, real financial safety that people have. And I think that being a factor to the assimilation, but also this facade of like the American dream and like if we don't just disrupt, if we don't speak out, we will be protected. And, white supremacy, right? Like we will be okay. And it's a facade because we know that because our communities are the ones getting kidnapped and getting deported. Right. And so I think there is that fear, but there's also recognition of this now, this facade that the silence doesn't protect us and that there is a real need for us to really, be strong in speaking out, not just for our SEA siblings that are impacted, but for all of our immigrant groups, even the Bhutanese community, right. That's been impacted during this time. And so I, yeah, I think it is that multi-layered experience of being a Southeast Asian refugee community on top of, being part of this AAPI umbrella. AAPI we are not homogenous. We all have very unique histories as to how we have dealt with the systems in this country and how we came into this country. And so I think it's been challenging to make space for those nuances. And at the end of the day, I still see the interconnections that we all have together too. And so, I think it's the willingness to make space for those different stories. And I am finding that more of our ethnic media, our smaller news outlets are more willing to cover those stories as opposed to, these larger mainstream outlets. Like they're not covering those stories, but we are. Miko: Thank you. Oh, both of you have brought up so much today about our failed criminal justice system, about us punishing people as opposed to rehabilitating people and punishing them more than once. We brought up questions around statelessness and the impact that it has, and I just recently learned that the United States does not have any policy on Statelessness. So one of the things that this coalition of folks is trying to do is to get a congressional hearing to help the United States develop policy around statelessness, because it is actually our responsibility and our duty to do that. The other thing I hear you both talking about is this good immigrant, bad immigrant trope, which we've heard of a lot, but I think that's also very much connected to why so many members of our communities don't wanna speak out because this connection with, you know, quote unquote criminal history might be something that's shameful. And I'm wondering if you both see that as a divide mostly between elders in the community and younger folks. Robin, do you wanna talk about that? Robin: Yeah. I mean, initially when we were mobilizing our community members to fight against the the unjust and unfair detention and deportation, this issue around the perception around good immigrants and bad immigrants became one of the main topic of discussion. We had to deal with people, and mostly elders, but I would say some young folks as well, who would pull themselves back on speaking against this issue because for them people who are being deported or detained are criminals and they deserve this kind of mindset. And not being able to see the larger picture of how the administration is targeting the immigrant and the refugee population of this country and really trying to dismantle community power, right? So, yes, it is a challenge that we are, we're going through and I think it's going to be quite a bit of work, to really build solidarity within our own communities. Kao Ye: I feel that the divide in the Hmong community is stemming from class and education. I feel as though when folks are articulating, regurgitating these justifications of the bad immigrant as to why folks should be deported it's folks that maybe kind of made it in their lives and now they're comparing themselves to folks that were not in that situation. And there is this growing within our community as well, where some folks are getting that education, getting, good jobs. But so much of our community, we still suffer from poverty, right? And so, I think that has been really interesting to witness the level of division because of class, because of income and also the education piece. Because oftentimes when folks are feeling this, it comes from a place of ignorance as well. And so that's why I think the education piece is so important. I actually feel though our elders are more understanding because these are their children that are being separated from them. And Robin's point is that when we have loved ones that go through the system, we just want them to rebuild their lives and be self-sufficient. And I feel like those are the values that I grew up in my community where our parents were always about keeping the family together to a fault, you know? And so they don't want separation. They just want us to be well and to do well, and to turn our lives around. And so, I feel strongly that our elders, they do understand that the importance of giving this opportunity for us to, to stay together and turn our lives around. Miko: Thank you so much, both of you for joining me here today to talk about this important conversation. I'm wondering if you could provide our audience with how they could find out more about what is going on and what are next steps for our audience members. Robin, let's start with you. Robin: Yeah. I just wanted to add what, Kao Ye talked about. I do agree the patterns around the divide is based on class. And I do see that in the community, and not just the class, but in our community class and caste, I would say. And in terms of the class, there were some instances where we had to deal with even the highly educated like PhD holders kind of, questioning us like, you know, what we are advocating for, and, I couldn't understand like, I couldn't relate the education, the title, the degree that he holds and the perception around this issue. Right. So, I just wanted to echo that. So, in terms of our work and Asian Refugees United, our website is www.asianrefugees.org And you can find us in our Instagram, Facebook, Asian Refugees United. Miko: And you can also get latest news about what's happening at bhutaneserefugeerights.com. Yeah. And Kao Ye how can folks find out more about your work? Kao Ye: Right now HIP is part of a statewide network in California called the Pardon Refugees Campaign, where we are really pushing Governor Newsom to pardon all refugees, not just Southeast Asians because of everything that we talked about, about how our families, they deserve to stay together. And so, I don't think we have a website up yet, but you can follow this campaign with us. We will be having a rally and press conference, coming up soon, in the next few weeks. And so, I would say that please follow us in that work where we are really moving in coalition with all of our uh, grassroots partners to advocate for our loved ones that are currently being impacted. Miko: Thank you so much, Robin Gurung, Asian Refugees United and Kao Ye Thao from Hmong Innovating Politics. Thank you so much for being with us here today, and I hope you listeners out there take action to keep our families together, to keep our people in the communities as loved ones where they belong. Thank you all. Have a great night. Swati Rayasam: I'm so grateful that Miko was able to talk to Robin and Kao Ye. And for those who missed it, visit bhutanese refugee rights.org for the most recent updates on the Bhutanese refugees. The press conference in rally Kao Ye mentioned took place last week on August 21st, 2025, but check out the Pardon Refugees Campaign for updates from the coalition supporting Hmong, Cambodian Laotian, Myan, and other refugees facing deportation. Thanks so much for tuning in to Apex Express. Please check out our website at kpfa.org/program/apexexpress to find out more about the show tonight and to find out how you can take direct action. We thank all of you listeners out there. Keep resisting, keep organizing, keep creating, and sharing your visions with the world. Your voices are important. Apex Express is produced by  Miko Lee, along with Jalena Keene-Lee, Ayame Keene-Lee, Preeti Mangala Shekar,  Anuj Vaida, Cheryl Truong, Isabel Li, Ravi Grover, and me Swati Rayasam. Thank you so much to the team at KPFA for their support and have a good night. The post APEX Express – 10.23.25 -And We Become Stateless Again appeared first on KPFA.

Introduction: Know Your Salvation (1 Corinthians 1:1-9) GRACE. (v4) Ephesians 2:8 – For by grace you have been saved through faith. GIFTED. (v5-7a) Ephesians 6:19 – also for me, that words may be given to me in opening my mouth boldly to proclaim the mystery of the gospel... GUILTLESS. (v7b-9) 2 Corinthians 5:21 – For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God. Sermon Notes (PDF): BLANKHint: Highlight blanks above for answers! Small Group DiscussionRead 1 Corinthians 1:1-9What was your big take-away from this passage / message?If the Bible is so clear that we are saved by grace (Ephesians 2:8), why do so many people insist on earning your salvation or hold the idea that good people go to heaven?Explain 1 Cor 1:5 in your own words. How does this apply to your personal walk with Christ?What does 1 Cor 1:8 say about the doctrine of eternal security (once saved, always saved)?Why do you think Paul starts this letter by calling them sanctified (1 Cor 1:2) and reminding them of their salvation (1 Cor 1:4-6)? BreakoutPray for one another. AUDIO TRANSCRIPT Today is our ministry year kickoff and that also means that today is our anniversary.So today we are celebrating 14 years of Harvest Bible Chapel and we're like alot of 14 year olds. We've come a long way but we have a long way to go.Right? What kind of church is this? We sit on four pillars we have from thebeginning. We've proclaimed the authority of God's Word without apology. That'swhat kind of church this is. We lift high the name of Jesus in worship. That'swhat kind of church this is. We believe firmly in the power of prayer. That's whatkind of church this is. And we share the good news of Jesus with boldness. Thoseare the four pillars this church was resting on when it was planted by God'sgrace. Those are the four pillars today. It may it always be. So I want you to openup your Bibles to 1 Corinthians and we're just going to pause. I want you to justplease pray for me to be faithful to communicate God's Word and I will prayfor you to have a heart open to receive what it is the Lord wants to teach ustoday. Alright? Let's just take a moment.Father in heaven as we get into your Word now I pray that your Spiritwould work with your Word in the hearts of every person here. In the hearts ofevery person that is streaming or going to be listening to this podcast later.Father thanks to the technologies we have in our day. This goes out to somany people all over the planet and we thank you that you've given usopportunity and we want to use that opportunity to exalt your Word, to exaltyour Son. Father has to start right here.Father incline our hearts towards nothing but your glory. We pray in Jesus' name.All of God's people said amen. Amen. A couple of decades ago Aaron and I weredoing foster care and for about a year and a half we had a brother and sister.They were five and seven and it was at the time it was the worst case of childabuse in Butler County. I don't know if that's still the case but it was at thetime. But the five-year-old boy was pretty broken when he came to us. Hecouldn't even talk really and we tried our hardest to give them somesemblance of a normal childhood. You know? Well one of the things that we did tothat end was we signed our five-year-old, his name is Walter. We signed him up forsoccer and I played soccer in high school and in college so I was asked tohelp coach the team. Now anybody ever coach five-year-olds in soccer? It's areal hoot because coaches have to be on the field with the kids. Okay, not on theside shouting instructions. "Will, you're standing on the field with the kids andyou have to run." And did you ever see five-year-olds play soccer? Okay, it's notlike World Cup where they're all like spread out and passing. It's just thiswave of kids chasing the ball. Well we were really trying to get really tryingto get Walter to embrace this, right? It was a big part of my childhood. Justwasn't clicking. The kids would run by with the ball. We're like, "Walter, get theball! Get the ball!" And Walter would run a couple of steps and he'd go, "They're toofast." Like, "Walter, no, come on, come on, get the ball! They're too fast." And then hewould get increasingly frustrated. Walter's big insult for people was tocall them naked. So the kids would run by, I'm like, "Walter, get the ball!" He goes,"They're naked! They're naked! They're naked!" And I'm like, "Actually, they'reclothed, but we need you to hustle, right?" And I don't know if this is greatparenting or not. Probably not. But at one point, Aaron and I offered Walter 25cents for every time he even touched the ball. We paid up zero. Well the othercoach, she was the mom of the goalie. Before the first game, she pulled measide. She goes, "I just want to warn you. I can't remember her son's name. We'll callhim Joey." She goes, "I just want to warn you." She goes, "Joey doesn't like gettingscored on." I'm like, "Well, that makes sense." She goes, "No, he really, reallyoverreacts." Like, well, good to know. Well, sure enough, we got scored on. To saythat the kid lost his mind as an understatement, he started ripping hisclothes like trying to rip his jersey off. And it was this scene. It was likehe was turning into the Hulk. And I'm watching this. I'm like, "Oh, man, what isgoing on here?" And then all of a sudden, I realized, "Wait a minute. Where didWalter go?" All of a sudden, I lost the foster kid. You don't want to tell theagency that. I'm like, "Where did he go? Where is he? Where?" Then I looked down.Walter is celebrating with the other team. Hugs and high fives and...This unity on the soccer team, it was funny. But you know, when there's thisunity in the church, it's not so funny. Let's be honest, we're a lot like thosekids in the soccer team sometimes, aren't we? Irrationally losing our minds overstupid things, calling people names, not wanting to participate. That's the themeof this first stretch in 1 Corinthians. You're gonna be hearing this a lot,because it's important to the heart of God, so it's important to the heart ofthe leaders in this church. Get unified. Church, we need to get unified.1 Corinthians was written to the church in Corinth, and you have tounderstand a little bit about their background. The city of Corinth wascorrupt. Like, how corrupt were they? They were so corrupt that the city's veryname became synonymous with immorality.They were known for their temple to the false goddess Aphrodite, the goddess oflove, and they had about a thousand priestesses who served as prostitutes.So you can imagine what passed for worship in Corinth.Well, it's in that backdrop that the Apostle Paul planted a church. You can readabout this, little homework assignment for you. Acts chapter 18. Go home and read it.Not right now, but go home and read it, and you'll see how the church was planted.So you have this church planted in this horrible city, and the church, the churchitself, was absolutely perfect. They just had two problems. Bad doctrine and badbehavior. Other than that, they were perfect. What the Corinthian church neededwas unity and purity. Look at chapter 1 verse 1. Paul called by the will of Godto be an apostle of Christ Jesus and our brother Sostenes to the church of Godthat is in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saintstogether with all those who in every place call upon the name of our LordJesus Christ, both their Lord and ours. Grace to you in peace from God, ourFather, and the Lord Jesus Christ. This church had a lot of problems, and we'regoing to be getting into that. And if you're familiar with God's word at all,you know. And it's so interesting to me that Paul starts this letter saying, hey,you Christians, those of you in Christ Jesus, you are sanctified. That word meansholy, I mean set apart. And then he goes, he calls them saints. Again, the wordmeans holy. Saint is a name for all true Christians, by the way. And when you lookat this little introduction, you're like, wow, Paul, that's quite a thing to saywhen you consider the rest of the book. And we're going to see as we go throughthis, but these Christians were worldly, and they were divisive, and there wassexual sin, and the list goes on and on and on. They were just, they were somessed up in so many ways. And why in the world would Paul kick this letter up bysaying you sanctified saints you? Like, why would he start that way?What, was it to butter them up? Like, I'm about to lay the hammer down, so I'm justgoing to make you feel good on the front. That wasn't it. Was Paul justignoring all their problems? Like, maybe if I don't mention it, they'll go away.No, that's certainly not it. So why did he start by calling them sanctifiedsaints? Why? Because it was true. Wait, wait, wait. How can they be holy and stillstruggle with being holy? Well, biblically, when we talk about holiness,holiness is two things. There's positional holiness, and there is practicalholiness. Positional holiness is when you receive Jesus Christ as your Lord andSavior, when you believe in Him, when you are born again, God pronounces you holy.In God's eyes, He's looking at you through the lens of Jesus Christ, and from God'sperspective, He says you are perfectly holy. We're going to talk more about thatin just a couple of minutes. So while we are positionally holy, practicalholiness, that is the growing, living like Christ, growing in Christ'slikeness, doing the things that honor the Lord, growing in maturity as a Christian.Put it this way, the Christian life is growing to be what God already pronouncedyou to be. That's what the Christian life is. It's growing to be what Godalready pronounced you to be. It's like joining the army. When you enlist in thearmy, as soon as you enlist, you are a soldier. So why go to boot camp? Why doyou go to boot camp? So they make you a soldier. You're like, "Wait, I thought Ialready was." You are. That's what the army does. They're making you what they'vecalled you to be. That's what God does in holiness. He's pronounced you holy andJesus, and your sanctification, your growth, your maturity. He is making you whatHe's already pronounced you to be. So now do you understand why Paul started theletter this way? Paul says, "Granthians, this is who you are. This is your identity.You are holy people." So we're going to get to this down the road. Paul's saying,"If you're holy, why are you acting unholy? Sin is inconsistent with who youare." So if we, Corinthian church, if we harvest Bible chapel, if we are going tobe unified and purified, it has to start here. You have to know your salvation.That's where Paul starts. So on your outline, I want you to draw three wordsdown. Know your salvation. Now this passage we're looking at today says somuch in just a few short verses. It says so much about salvation. The Bibleitself says so much about salvation, but you're going to see here in this passageknowing salvation is really knowing three G's. Your cell phone might needfive G's, God only needs three. Know your salvation. Three G's, it's allstraight from the text. Here's what you have to know about your salvation.If you're going to grow in unity and purity, here's what you have to knowabout your salvation. Number one, write this word down. Grace.Look at verse 4. "I give thanks to my God always for you, because of the grace ofGod that was given you in Christ Jesus." And I get to tell you as a pastor, I lovethat. He says, "I give thanks for you." Again, the church had so many issues thatPaul needed to deal with, but notice he didn't see them for where they are. Hesaw them for who they are. It's like, "I give thanks for you." Why? They were given.Actually, that word in the Greek refers to being given something at a moment oftime in the past. You know, I'm thankful for you because at one point in your past,you were given one of the most beautiful words in the whole Bible. The word isgrace. You were given grace. You know, that's a word that we throw around a lotin church. Sometimes we don't wrestle down what exactly it means.You look up a theology textbook, grace is unmerited favor. It is undeservedkindness. But you know, the best definition of grace I've ever heard isthis, grace is God giving to you what He requires from you. That's grace. Godgiving to you what He requires from you. What does God require from you?Holiness, righteousness, perfection. God requires that. We don't have it. Grace isGod giving that to us in Jesus Christ. Sometimes we mix up grace with otherconcepts in the Bible like long suffering and mercy and things like that. Myfavorite illustration, some of you have heard this before. You're going to hear itagain. It helps me to really understand what grace is, is this. Imagine that youhave a teenage son. Some of you do and some of you did. Some of you will andsome of you can use your imaginations. But imagine you have a teenage son andyour teenage son goes to a party. And at this party there's another boy, same ageas your son, who hates your son. Something stupid probably, a girl andmurders your son. Cold-blooded murder, unprovoked murder. This other kidmurders your son. Now, if you track that kid down that murders your son, if youtrack him down and you kill him, that is called vengeance. But if you track himdown and you help the law, you help the police get him arrested, that's calledjustice. But if you track him down, help the police get him arrested and you showup at his court date and somehow, somehow, you're able to convince the judge tojust let him go. Like just let him go. That's called mercy. But you help thepolice track him down, arrest him and you show up at his court date and somehow,somehow, you convince the judge to allow you to adopt that kid as your own andraise him as your own son. That's called grace. And understand that's what God hasdone for us in the Gospel of Jesus Christ. We have sinned against him and wekilled his son. And what's God's response to that? God's response is, "I want toadopt you." That is grace. The Bible tells us, Ephesians chapter 2, "For by grace youhave been saved through faith." By grace we have been saved, we've been adopted, we'vebeen regenerated, we've been sanctified. It's all grace. Grace isn't withheldbecause of our sin. God is able to be gracious to us because Jesus Christ tookaway our sin. Our part is faith. That's our part. Faith is believing in Jesus.It's believing Jesus is who he said he is. He is God in the flesh. It's believingthat Jesus accomplished what he said he would accomplish. That his death on thecross was to pay the penalty for my sin and for your sin. He rose from the dead togive us eternal life. It's believing that. It's receiving that. Our part is faith.God has done all the work in Christ. That's His grace.Now, this is so fundamental.But at the same time, it's so hard to believe. It's so hard to believe becauseevery single area of our lives are performance-based. Every single one. Right?My boss is happy with me when I perform. My teacher at school is happy with me whenI perform. My family is happy with me when I perform. Every area of life it's justI gotta do stuff to make somebody happy and we bring that thinking into thechurch. Like what do I have to do to make God happy? This is salvation is notbased on your performance. It's based on Jesus Christ's performance.So as we start this stretch, as Paul starts this stretch in 1 Corinthianstelling the Corinthian church, telling Harvest Bible Chapel today, get unified.You have to know your salvation and you have to understand grace because it'sonly when you understand this that you take the first step to unity. What doesthis have to do with unity? Grace puts us all on the same level.We don't have time to do this but I'd sure like to. I'd like to get everyChristian to line up here like we do for communion. We will be doing that. I'dlike to get every Christian line up here. Just have testimony time. How were yousaved? By grace? Not because you were special or you worked for it? Oh that'sawesome, me too. Next. How were you saved? Oh by grace? Not because you were specialor did anything to earn it? Oh me too. Next. Do you see what that does?None of us deserve to be saved. None of us. None of us are any better thananother.We're not going to get unified until we come to grips with that. We're all onthe same level. We all, in Christ, are recipients of grace.It's the first thing you need to know about salvation. The second one, number two,write this word down. Gifted. Gifted.Look at verse 5 through the first part of verse 7.Paul says that in every way you were enriched in him in all speech and allknowledge, even as the testimony about Christ was confirmed among you, so thatyou are not lacking in any spiritual gift.You are not lacking in any spiritual gift. You see grace speaks to the past.That's what was received. Gifted speaks to the present. You are saved to serve.Notice Paul says you are enriched. You are not lacking any gift. Jesus,Paul is telling us here, Jesus has gifted you everything that you need to serve him.You're like, well, can you be more specific? He was more specific actually.Do you notice that? What is that? Verse 5, all speech and all knowledge.These are two of the gifts that he highlights here. First of all, you weregifted with all speech. You were gifted with the ability to speak the truth.All knowledge. You were gifted with all knowledge. That doesn't mean you knoweverything. That means you know everything that you need to know pertaining to the gospel.So here's what Paul is saying. Listen, church, you have been gifted to speak and you have beengifted with knowing what to say. So the question is, how are you using that?You have the gift if you're a Christian. How are you using that?Here at this church, it can be used in teaching and preaching.All speech, all knowledge. It can be used in Harvest Academy,teaching the kids back there while we're teaching in here. It can be used in small group.It can be used in youth group, in conferences, in prayer services, in workshops, in precepts,in our witnessing.You've been given a gift. How are you using it?Because the reality is the biggest problem with most Christians is not that we don't know what to say.Our problem is just opening our mouths and saying.I hear that all the time when it comes to witnessing. Well, I don't really witness becauseI don't know what to say. If you don't know enough to share, then you probably don't know enough to be saved.Look what Paul says in Ephesians 619.He's talking about prayer. He says, "Praying also for me that words may be given to me in openingmy mouth boldly to proclaim the mystery of the gospel." You see that? Paul didn't say,"Pray that I can't speak or pray that I would know what to say." He says, "I need boldness."Our fourth pillar, sharing the good news of Jesus with boldness. That's what we need to be praying for.Boldness isn't jerkiness. It's not obnoxiousness. It's just confidence in God's calling and God'sgifting. It's just confidence to say, "Look, God gave me a message and he gave me the knowledgeof what I'm supposed to say, so I'm just going to open my mouth and I'm going to say it."And again, if you know enough to be saved, then you know enough to share.Share what you know. Look at verse 6 again. I love as he says, "Even as the testimonyabout Christ was confirmed among you." What's he saying? He's saying the people of Jesus usingthe gifts of Jesus is confirmation that Jesus is at work in the church.When I was little, my dad, for Christmas one year, he wanted magnifying goggles.Because he was going to undertake this hobby of putting boats and bottles. Have you ever seenthese things where you have like a bottle and there's like a boat inside? You know what I'mtalking about? Okay, my dad was going, "I'm going to make those and I need magnifying goggles."Like I said, I was just a little kid. I'm like, "I'm going to get those for dad."Now listen, I can tell already you're not impressed. So I'm going to remind you of something.This was pre-Internet. I know right now you can get on your phone and get on Amazon's orEtsy or whatever. I don't know. But you can eBay, you can get on there and you can probably rightnow find me 500 pairs of magnifying goggles. This was pre-Internet. This was pre-smartphone.This was pre-cell phone.All right? So I'm like, "I'm going to find those for him." And you know, it took me forevermaking phone calls and going to different stores and talking to people and tracking.And do you know, I found a pair of them. I went to a jewelry repair storeand I found them and I saved my money. Those weren't cheap. I saved my money,especially for a little kid. I saved my money and I bought those magnifying goggles.I bought them for dad for Christmas. I got to tell you, I can't think of a gift that I was moreexcited to give in my life. See, one of them, I couldn't get them, but I tracked them down.And I was so, I was so proud to give dad those magnifying goggles for Christmas.Well, my father died in 2003. And you know, when somebody passes away and you start tokind of go through their stuff and figure out what to do with all that,found those magnifying goggles, still in the box, never used.And I wonder, church,when Jesus returns, how many boxes of magnifying goggles is he going to find?I wonder when Jesus returns, how many of his gifts that he gave to his people,is he going to return and find? Oh, we had them. We didn't use them.We didn't use them. You have been gifted so much. And we're going to talk about this later,the gifts of the Holy Spirit. We're going to talk about this later in 1 Corinthians.But have you been using the gifts that God gave you?Listen, if your mindset is this, you know what, Pastor Jeff, I just attend church.My spiritual gift is attendance. My spiritual gift is warming a seat. And you know, I just leavethe ministry to the professionals. I don't really have a gift. That's bad news. Because not havinga gift means you're not saved, because he tells us right here that Jesus' people are enriched in him.Paul is saying, church, you have everything you need. Everything has been gifted to you,to minister to each other, and to reach the world.So look, there's no bench warmers on this team.On this team, listen, if you're saved, you're starting.All right? Don't call the other players naked. All right? If you're saved, you're starting.Get unified. Get unified. You know, the biggest unity killer in the church is selfishness.My wants, my desires, my preferences, especially in this culture where we are right now,right here geographically where we are, this is a horrible place. Because the mindset of mostchurchgoers in this area is church is the place that I go to get. And I'm going to this churchbecause they have better coffee, and I'm going to this church because, you know, they have a zipline for their youth group, and I'm going to this church because they have fog machines and laserlights. And we have this idea that church is the place that I go to get. And that is completelyforeign to the Bible. Church is not the place you go to get. Church is the place you go to get.And anything you receive here is bonus. The mindset has to be church is the place I go to get.You're expected to. It's why you're saved, and it's why you have been gifted.Know your salvation. Three Gs, grace, gifted, one more.Guiltless.Guiltless. Pick up second part of verse seven,where he says, "As you wait for the revealing of our Lord Jesus Christ."That Greek word for wait means to wait eagerly. Right? I don't have to tell you on that.There's a big difference between the way a kid is waiting to open his birthday presentsversus the way that kid's dad is waiting at the DMV. Right? This is wait eagerly. It's this idea ofanticipation like, "Oh, he's coming. He's coming. I can't wait. I cannot wait. Jesus is coming, and Icannot wait." Do you see that? What are we waiting for? He tells us the revealing of our Lord JesusChrist. I don't know if you noticed, but Jesus Christ is mocked now. He's about to show up.And he's going to make everything right. And he's going to make everything new.Are you excited for that? I sure am.In the verse eight, he says, "Who will sustain you to the end? Who will sustain you to the end?If you believe that you can lose your salvation, I want you to explain that verse to me.Will sustain you to the end?" Did you ever wonder if you're going to make it?Did you ever wonder,am I going to make it to the end? Loving Jesus, following Jesus, serving Jesus, am I going to make it?Listen, if you are legitimately born again in Christ, you will make it.On the authority of the Word of God, you are going to make it.Because you didn't work to earn your salvation, and you can't work to keep your salvation.And here very plainly, God's Word tells us that Jesus will sustain you to the end.How? That's His responsibility. He's going to get you there.You're like, okay, well maybe He's going to get me there, Pastor Jeff, but I got a lot to answer for.When I stand before God, He's going to tell me how disappointed He is in me.God's going to tell me how upset He is with me. And I've had people tell me, Pastor Jeff,you know what, when we're like in line to get to heaven, don't be standing behind me.Because God is, He's got a lot of stuff that He's going to, He's really going to let me have it.You don't want to stand behind me in line to get to heaven.Well, let's keep reading, shall we? Who will sustain you to the end? Look at this.Guiltless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.Guiltless.In that day, when you stand before Christ, it is not going to be for Himto tell you how badly you messed up. In Christ, what does your Bible say? You have no guilt.2 Corinthians 5.21 says, "For our sake, God He made Him Jesus."God made Jesus to be sin, who knew no sin, so that in Him we might become the righteousnessof God. There's a trade that's going on here. Jesus took our sin on Himself, on the cross,to the point that somehow He is personified sin here.He took our sin. What did He give us in exchange? So that in Him we might become the righteousnessof God. Do you see that this grace, it didn't just take away your sin. God's gracemade you as righteous as God Himself is. And look, you can talk to me about the trinityand creation and predestination, and I've never lost a moment's sleep over any of those things.To me, this is the most baffling doctrine in the entire Bible, the fact that God would takea piece of dirt, sinner like me, and because of Jesus Christ, He would pronounce me as righteousas He is. I don't even have the ability to explain how awesome that is.Guiltless. He's going to sustain you until the day that you stand before Him when Hepronounces you guiltless. You're like, "You sure about that?"Well, look at verse 9, "God is faithful, by whom you were called into the fellowshipof His Son, Jesus Christ, our Lord." Yeah, I am sure about that, because it's not basedon my ability, and it's not based on my integrity. It's based on God's ability,and it's based on God's integrity. He called you to this, the fellowship of His Son.You've got to know your salvation.And you see, it's past, present, and future, right? It's justification, sanctification,glorification. It's just in this particular passage, it's grace, gifts, and guiltless.And for them then, and for us now, this isn't new information.But these are foundational truths that we seem to forget about over time.Because church harvest Bible chapel like the Corinthians over time, we tend to forget aboutour identity in Jesus Christ. We forget that we were lost, hellbound sinners saved by His grace.We forget that we are here to serve, not to be served. We forget that Jesus Christ is comingsoon, and we forget that this is Jesus' church, not our church.And when we forget these things, unity goes out the window, because we start to thinkthat church is about us. Know your salvation. It's Jesus. It's Jesus. It's His grace. It's His gifts.It's His fellowship. So our worship team makes their way forward in our communion servers.You know, Jesus gave us a way to remind us of all these truths that unite us in Him.That's what I love about the Lord's table. Jesus said, "Do this in remembrance of Me."This keeps bringing us back when we are tempted to think this is about us, when we are tempted tothink that we are contributing to our salvation. When we are tempted to thinkthat God doesn't love us and we need to figure stuff out, this brings us back to the foundationaltruths of the way God purchased your salvation and what it means for us today.

A weekly magazine-style radio show featuring the voices and stories of Asians and Pacific Islanders from all corners of our community. The show is produced by a collective of media makers, deejays, and activists. Important Links: Hmong Innovating Politics: Website | Instagram Asian Refugees United: Website | Instagram Bhutanese American Refugee Rights website Transcript Swati Rayasam: You are tuned in to Apex Express on KPFA. My name is Swati Rayasam.  Since the onset of the Trump administration, immigrant and refugee communities have been under increased attack, being kidnapped in broad daylight, detained in unsanitary and unsafe conditions, and deported to countries many of them barely know. All without due process or communication to their loved ones and communities. On tonight's episode, we're focusing on a particular segment of our immigrant and refugee community, Hmong and Bhutanese refugees. Both of these targeted communities are stateless with no land to call their own, and their deportation carries the very real danger of disappearance and death. Robin Gurung from Asian Refugees United and Kao Ye Thao from Hmong innovating Politics, discuss their community and personal refugee stories, and talk about the intersection of the US' deeply broken immigration and criminal legal systems, otherwise known as crimmigration. We also get to hear from the wives of two detained refugees, one Bhutanese and one Hmong, who are currently fighting to keep their families together and to protect their loved ones from the dangers of deportation as stateless people. I also want to note because this is a rapidly developing situation, that this episode was recorded on August 13th, 2025, and is being released on August 28th, 2025. For the most recent updates, please go to bhutaneserefugeerights.org or check out the Pardon Refugees campaign. Now, here's Miko. Miko: Welcome to Apex Express. Thank you so much for being here today. I'm so glad to bring you all together in this time. I'm wondering if I could ask you each to introduce yourselves and tell us a little bit about the community your organization serves and what you do, and let's start with Kao Ye.  Kao Ye: Hello everyone, and thank you for making space- my name is Kao Ye Tao. I use she her pronouns, and I work as the director of policy and partnerships with an organization called Hmong Innovating Politics. We are an organization that serves Hmong youth and families in Sacramento and Fresno, which holds two of our largest Hmong American communities in California. And our work with Hmong youth and families is really about developing their leadership to organize towards social justice and to get the resources that their communities deserve. Miko: Thank you, Kao Ye and Robin, could you please introduce yourself? Robin: Sure. My name is Robin Gurung. I use he, him, his, I'm from the Nepali speaking Bhutanese community. I live in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. my role at Asian Refugees United is the co-founder and the co-executive director. We have our program in California and Pennsylvania. California programs are, are serving Asian diaspora and then, Pennsylvania programs are focused serving the Nepal speaking Bhutanese community. We work in the intersection of arts and healing, storytelling, civic engagement, leadership development. Thank you. Miko: Thanks Robin and I am your host Miko Lee, lead producer at Apex Express. And all of us are part of a network called AACRE Asian Americans for Civil Rights and Equality, which is a network of progressive Asian American groups. So you all work with refugee populations. I'm wondering if you could tell a little bit more about the backstory of your community, and also if you feel comfortable about how you personally came to be a refugee in the United States. And, Robin, I'd love to start with you on that one. Robin: Sure. My community is Nepali speaking, Bhutanese refugee community. And we are ethnically Nepali, which means culture wise and language wise we speak Nepali and follow the Nepali culture tradition. Our ancestors like maybe in 18 hundreds, 19 hundreds migrated from Nepal to Bhutan and became the citizen of that country. And most people don't know about Bhutan, it's a very tiny country between China and India. And, if people know about Bhutan, then people know it through the cross national happiness concept, Bhutan is considered the happiest country in the world. So our ancestors were in mostly in the southern area of Bhutan for generations, they became the citizen. They had their own home, their own land. And then later, 1980s, early nineties, there was a policy by the government of Bhutan, which is the monarchy government system- king rules the country. They brought a policy called One Nation, One People Policy. Which means all different groups of people would have to follow the same culture, same religion, kind of follow the same dress code and because of that policy all people were forced to stay away from following our own culture or our own religion, which, most of our folks were Hindu. Our people protested against it and because of that, the government expelled over a hundred thousand of our community members. And, they expelled to India and then from like India wouldn't allow us to stay and we had to resettle in Nepal in seven different refugee camps under different international agencies like U-N-H-C-R and other agencies. Miko: And then Robin, can you tell a little bit about your personal story and how you came here? Robin: Yeah. Yeah. So 1992 is when my family had to leave Bhutan. And at that time I was three years old. I remember growing up in a refugee camp in Nepal, from three years until I was 23 years. So 20 years of my life I was in a refugee camp in Nepal. And in 2012, I came to US through the refugee resettlement program introduced to our camps in 2008, and through it US agreed to resettle 60,000 of our committee members. By 2017, I think US has resettled about 70 to 80,000 of our Bhutanese community members.   Miko: Thank you so much for sharing. Kao Ye I wonder if you could talk about your community and the refugee resettlement program that your community was a part of. Kao Ye: The Hmong American community, or just the Hmong community overall, is a group that's indigenous to East and Southeast Asia. And through our ancient history, we've always been a stateless, people fighting for our autonomy to live to practice our customs and our culture. And particularly where we come into this history of refugee is during the Vietnam War where many Hmong people, alongside other ethnic groups in Laos, were caught in the crossfire of the United States conflict in Southeast Asia. And so with the Vietnam War. The Hmong as well as many other ethnic communities that lived, in the hills and the mountains were recruited in covert operations by the CIA to fight back against the Vietnamese, the Northern Vietnamese communist forces, as well as the Putet Lao. And so once the US withdrew from Southeast Asia, it created a vacuum of conflict and violence that our people had to escape from in order to survive. And so after the Vietnam War in 1975, we saw the mass displacement of many Southeast Asian ethnic communities, including Hmong families. And that is where my history starts because my parents were born in Laos and because of this war, they fled to Thailand refugee camps and lived there for a few years until they were able to come to the United States in 1992. And I'm actually I'm a child of refugees and so what I know about this part of my history comes from the stories of my grandparents who raised me as well as what little I could learn in the textbooks of public education. And so it wasn't actually until going to college and. Being able to access more of this literature, this history that I really learned about what the United States had done in Southeast Asia and the ramifications of that for myself and my family and so many others, refugees that. Have to have had to resettle in the United States. And so it's definitely a history that runs very close, because we have relatives that live through that refugee experience. And so it is very well and alive. And so as we now approach this conversation around ICE and deportations, it really is a reminder of the trauma that our people face, but are still facing as a people that have been seen as disposable to the United States government. Miko: Thanks, Kao Ye. Let's talk a little bit more about that. But first I wanna say, did either of you ever hear about refugees in your textbooks? I never did. So I'm wondering if, you said you learned a little bit about that from textbooks. Was that something you learned in public education. Kao Ye: I did not learn about refugees or refugees experience. I learned about the war and as a Hmong kid it brought me so much delight to try to scroll through the history books just to see if Hmong people were mentioned. And even then the refugee experience was not ever something that we talked about. I felt like definitely not in, in high school. I think it was college really, that then started to articulate those terms and that Southeast Asian identity, that is really where I think I also became politicized in that. Miko: Yeah, because I think in textbooks there might be a little section on the Vietnam War, but it does not talk about the, all the Southeast Asian ethnic peoples that actually fought in the war. We have to dig that information out on our own, but I wanna move us to what is happening right now. So the Trump administration has created. Culture of fear among immigrants and refugees, these ICE raids and disappearances. It is so intense and using immigrants as a fear tool to prop up white supremacy is so blatant right now. I'm wondering if you can each talk about, how this administration's policies are impacting your communities. And, Robin, let's start with you. What is happening right now? I know since the end of March, can you share a little bit about what's been happening with Bhutanese Americans? Robin: Sure. Sure. So our people were settled to this country with the hope that this is going to be our home. But starting March of this year, with the new policies of this current administration, we started seeing abrupt, ICE arrest in our communities. People were picked up from home, their workplaces, and from their ICE, check-ins. And, since March, within I would say two to three months, more than 72 of our community members were picked up, mostly from Pennsylvania and then Ohio, and also from other states like New York, Georgia, North Dakota. So until now, we have, the records of at least 50 people who have been deported to Bhutan and at least 72 who are detained. So more than 30 people are [at risk] of getting detained. The nature of the ICE arrests that we have seen is we don't know whether the due processes were followed. They made it so hard for the families to look for attorneys, and also to track their family members. Within days family members would find their loved ones disappeared, and then they wouldn't be able to talk to them they wouldn't be able to track them and provide the support that they needed. So for us as a community organization we did not anticipate this and we were not prepared for this. And, and we didn't have the infrastructure to really address this, right? So it became such challenging work for us. Like within days we had to mobilize our people. We had to mobilize our teams to help family members with legal support, emotional support, mobilize our community members to update what's happening with this situation. The rapid response work, know your rights clinics that we had to set up. So on one hand it's the detention and deportation in the US and on the other hand, when our people were deported to Bhutan, what we're seeing is within 24 hours, they are being expelled from Bhutan to India, and then from India because India wouldn't accept them as well, they had to enter Nepal because for most of these Deportee, they're very young, they were born in refugee camps, and for most of them, the only known land is Nepal. Right. And they had to enter Nepal without documentation. And then some of them were found in refugee camps. And most of them are unknown. Like they're, they have disappeared. Miko: So that is so much over the last few months that ARU has had to step in and take a leading, role in this situation that has impacted the Bhutanese community from focusing on wellness and youth development to suddenly translating materials into Nepali, translating, know Your Rights materials into Nepali, hosting all these different events, the work that you have been doing is really powerful. I wonder if you could share with us the story of Mohan Karki, who is a community member that's currently detained in Michigan. Robin: Sure. So, Mohan Karki is now in detention in Michigan and he's a community member member who lived in Ohio. So he was detained by ICE during his regular ICE check-in , I believe in April, they detained him and then he was taken for deportation. And last minute, the families and the community had to come together and then appeal the deportation. Right now he's in Michgan detention center and his wife, who was pregnant and had due date, when Mohan was being deported on June 10, is now fighting day and night to stop the deportation and also to bring Mohan home. Right now, Asian Refugees United and other community partners, like AWPAL, Asian Law Caucus are working together to support Mohan's family, to bring Mohan home and also running a, GoFund me fundraiser, to help the family pay the legal fees. Miko: Thanks Robin. And we're gonna listen to Tikas story right now. Tika Basnet: Hi, my name is Tika Basnet I'm from Ohio and I'm fighting my husband deportation case.  So on April seven, a lot of people told us not to go to the ICE office, but my husband wanna follow the rules, he wanna go there. We went to the Westerville office inside And we sit down, we talk to each other. Nothing will go wrong. And suddenly ICE told us to come inside and they told us that my husband got travel documents from Bhutan. I told them like it is not safe for my husband to get deport in Bhutan, all the Bhutanese people run away in 1990s due to the ethnic cleansing and if my husband get deported in Bhutan, he will either gonna get killed, tortured, disappeared, imprisoned, I don't know what will happen, but they did not listen to me. So they detained my husband and I came at the parking lot and his mom saw me coming alone. So they start crying and I told them like, Mohan is gone and this is the last time I think I'm gonna see my husband. the time that my husband was taken away from Butler County on June 10 I was 41 weeks pregnant. I was supposed to deliver on, June 10. But no, I told the doctor I change my delivery time. I am not gonna go now like I need to fight for my husband. Like, When Bhutanese people started coming here in 2007. Third party promise us that in here in United States, we will get our identity. That identity will never taken away. They promise us that the way Bhutan take our identity, they will not gonna do that. we thought that this is our home. We thought that having a green card, having a citizenship, it is permanently, but no, we are, we all are wrong. And that identity is taken away within a second. And we became stateless again. So, my husband, Mohan Karki he just arrived in the United States he been here less than two years when the incident happened. He did not understand the law. He did not understand the culture. He did not know anything.  My husband he was only 17 years old, high school student coming from school to home. On the way to reach their apartment, there is one private house. They are just trying to go to the shortcut from the backyard. So some neighbor call 9 1 1. And that only one mistake lead to deportation.  The place that we come from, there is no boundaries. In Nepal, we are allowed to go anybody property We are allowed to walk somebody else house and because of the cultural difference, he's paying price right now.  At that time, nobody can speak English. They cannot understand what police were saying and Nepali interpreter told my husband that if you say I'm guilty, you'll out of prison soon. But if you did not say I'm guilty, you'll end up in prison for 20 to 25 years. High school student he's scared he just say, I'm guilty, and he did not know what is deportation mean. He did not know what he was signing. Nobody informed him what he was signing. That signing was deportation. What happened in 2013 is impacting us in 2025 and still he wish he did not cross somebody else backyard at that time. He wish he knew that he wasn't allowed to cross somebody else's backyard. I don't know what will our future is gonna be, but I hope that he gets second chance. His community love him. He love people. He was working as a truck driver. He paid taxes. He was supporting his parent. He was supporting me. My daughter deserve to have a father. You know, she's just one month. But now the dream that I was hoping one day I'm gonna build with my husband that is taken away and I'm left alone with this child. I already went through a lot without him, i'm the only one that fighting for my husband case. The deportation is not only breaking one family, but it is breaking everybody, the community and the family. And I hope that people can support me so I can fight for my husband case. Like I really need so many attorney. I need criminal attorney to open up his 2013 case. And I have wonderful, wonderful attorney, my husband get stay off removal, but that is not guarantee my husband can get deport anytime. The attorney fee are really expensive and he still needs support. The US made bhutanese people a promise of home. We belong here. Stop the detention and deportation. Stop deporting Bhutanese people. We are stateless. We don't have country, don't have a home. This is our home. US is our home. We belong here. Miko: Of the 72 people, Mohan is the first Bhutanese refugee that we actually have a stay of release on, as Robin was saying earlier, most of the folks were moved from state to state, so you can't really get a lawyer in that time. And as we all know, nonprofit immigration lawyers are under a lot of stress because of the attack of this administration. So it makes it incredibly complicated, let alone the legal fees that it costs to help support people going through this. And right now, Mohan has a stay on his, deportation and the lawyer that they do have is drafting up a letter to be able to release him into the community and also overturn his original case that happened as a minor in Georgia, which was a ridiculous case where he was leaving school, early high school, first year in the country, leaving high school early, and walked with his friends across a backyard. And the neighbor that they walked through their yard called the police, and they arrested him along with his friends for trespassing, they gave him paperwork that he didn't even understand. He signed it along with a interpreter they gave him false information to say he'd be locked up for 25 years, or if he signed this papers, that would be fine. He could go and what the papers said was it changed his charge into a felony and had him sign a letter of deportation. So this is part of the failure of our American legal system that we're not providing adequate information. It is a lack of due process. Thankfully, the work that Asian Law Caucus and United States of Stateless and other community activists are doing to call this out and help work with us is really critical. I wanna turn now to Kao Ye how this administrations is impacting Hmong refugees, and how is it similar or different to the experiences that Robin is describing for the Nepali speaking Bhutanese community? Kao Ye: I echoed many of the sentiments and the challenges that Robin shared around what we as nonprofit, grassroots organizations are having to build and grapple with just the limited infrastructure that we have to deal with the current ICE disappearances and deportation and all the support that's needed for the families. And so thank you Robin, for sharing that. I wanted to start broad a little bit because I think that this Trump administration is happening in the backdrop of the 50th year commemoration of the end of the wars in Southeast Asia and the refugee resettlement. We had over 1.1 million Southeast Asians resettle to the United States, the largest immigration resettlement, in American history. And so this year brings so many complexities, I think as a Southeast Asian community where there is a level of looking back at policies that have impacted us and have failed, but also looking forward what is the community that we are building together to move and progress together. And so there are those complexities, I think as the fact that it's the 50th year and like, this is what we're dealing with. This is the trauma that we are grappling with. And so I wanted to put that out front and center because even I think within our communities , there is no necessarily enlightenment in terms of how we talk about what is happening to our people and how they're getting deported unjustly. So that is why it is so important to have this dialogue within our communities as well as the solidarity that we also share with the Bhutanese community and other immigrant groups too. I think that in many of our Southeast Asian communities, their reasons for deportations is very tied to past convictions, and so this is the intersection between criminal law and immigration law. And it makes it complex because our people are now having to consult not just an immigration lawyer, but like criminal attorney so that they could really assess like what kind of relief they can get in order to mitigate, impending deportations. And then also miko you had shared about the lack of adequate legal service or representation because many of these folks, right, that have had these convictions that have now served their time and are simply members of our community that make our community rich. They are now having to revisit removal orders that they signed, thinking that, oh, nothing necessarily was gonna happen because they don't have a repatriation agreement. So, in our community, there was never a thought that we were going to be deported back to our home country because of that policy. And so that is a big contributing factor as to why the Hmong community, we don't have that infrastructure to really support our members who have gone through the criminal justice system and now have those removal orders. And so HIP, as well as many other grassroots. Sadly we did have to scramble to put this know your rights information together because again, I don't think that there was visibility in the need for us in this conversation around immigration Southeast Asians are a segment of our API community and so it just, I think, multiplied the invisibility that we already faced as a group of Southeast Asians. And so the support was definitely not there. And, to Robin's point, we did our best to try to put this information together to our community, starting with the Know Your Rights. And then we also realized like it was more complex than that, and that the legal supports were so necessary because everyone's case was different. I think what we're still dealing with now is that there's always been a lack of trust between our community members and government entities and nonprofit organizations. And so, if someone is dealing with the situation, they wanna go to, a partner that they trust to help them, even if they're not necessarily equipped to do that work, is that they're going to only the people that they trust because there is such a big mistrust. And so I think that, there is still the level of trust building that is needed to be done within our community so that folks feel comfortable to come to us or come to other people for support. And I think what makes me feel emotional is just when I hear about community members feeling hopeless and just feeling like there's nothing that they can do and that level of disempowerment to me, I think is something that is real. And I can't say that we can't combat it, but I think that it is about being able to find different outlets of support for them. Miko: Thank you for lifting that up. And just , in terms of the numbers, over three months, March, April and May, there were about 72 Bhutanese Americans that have been detained. And this is just kind of starting up with the Hmong community. So we had 15 that were detained from Minnesota and another 10 right now are being held in Michigan. And we also see this happening with Vietnamese, Laotian, Cambodians, and Myan folks. All of these folks as Kao Ye you're pointing out, have had common threads, which is connections with the system, with the criminal legal/ justice system and crimmigration is something that in the AACRE network we've been talking about and working on, which is really about the education to prison, to deportation pipeline. And one of the things that this administration had talked about is, let's get rid of all the murderers and the rapists. You know, this like scare language about people that are convicted criminals, let's get rid of them all. But the fact of the matter. The vast majority of all of these people are people like Mohan Karki, a cultural misunderstanding that happened when he was a child. Like Lou Yang, who is Hmong refugee detained in Michigan right now. Somebody who was involved in something as a kid, but has since then become a leader in the community. So let's take a moment and listen to the spouse of Lou Yang, a Hmong refugee detained in Michigan in July. Anne Vu: My name is Anne Vu and I come before you today with a heart full of hope. Sorrow and a plea for justice. I am a proud American, a mother of six, the daughter of Hmong refugees who would gain their citizenship, and the wife of a man called Lou Yang, who is now detained and faced with potential deportation from the only country that he's ever known. Lou has lived in Michigan since October, 1979. He was born stateless in a refugee camp in Nongkai Thailand and his family fled Laos due to persecution. His father and like many others, served with the United States force during the Vietnam War as part of the Secret War, recruited by CIA in Laos, a conflict that most Americans do not know has happened. The Hmong were recruited by the CIA as part of the Secret War to help America during the Vietnam War. But when the war ended and the US withdrew, we were as the Hmongs declared enemy of the state. What followed was genocide, polarization and persecution by the state, and it was because of our alliance, the promise made by the US government that the Hmong refugees were legally settled here under certain migration of refugee laws and acts. And Lou arrived here as a young, toddler in infancy. In 1997, he was arrested on an alleged accomplice in an attempt home invasion, second degree. He was in the vehicle at the time. He never entered the home. He literally was still a juvenile at that time. He had a court appointed attorney and was advised to take a plea without being told it would affect his immigration status for the rest of his life. This is the reality of our immigration system – long, complex, confusing and devastating, unforgiving. It is not built for people like us, people like Lou, people who have served their time, rebuilt their lives and have nowhere else to go. We've walked this legal path, we've stayed together in the lines, and yet we are here punished today. Lou has no other charges, no current legal issues, no history of violence. He is not a flight risk. He is not a danger to our public safety. He is a father, my husband, a son, a son-in-law, a grandson and a brother to many, and our leader and a provider to our community, and to my family. He renews his work authorization and follows every rule asked of him no matter how uncertain the future felt. Together, we've raised six beautiful children. They're all proud Americans. Lou has contributed to Michigan's economy for decades working in our automotive industry and now he is gone and all that he is built is unraveling and the community is heartbroken. We didn't come from wealth. We didn't have every opportunity handed to us because we didn't come seeking a land of opportunity. We came here because of survival. We had to build from the ground up. But the most important thing was Lou and I, we had each other. We had our families, our friends, and our neighbors. We had a shared commitment to build a better life, grounded in love, respect, and purpose. And somehow that's still not enough. For years, we were told like other Hmong families that Laos in Thailand would never take us back. And that has changed. In June, 2025 the US imposed a partial travel ban on Laos, citing visa overstays, and lack of deportation cooperation. And in response, Laos began issuing these documents under pressure. Today over 4,800, including Hmong, Myan, and the other ethnic minorities are facing removal to Laos and to many other countries, many have never stepped foot in a country that they are now being sent to. Lou is Stateless like many others that is detained with him. None of these countries recognize him. He was born in the Thailand refugee camp, it does not recognize him nor qualify him for any sort of Thai citizenship and I'll tell you guys right now if forced to return, he will face danger because of his family's deep ties to the CIA and United States military. Deporting him turns him, a civil servant and respected community leader, into a political casualty, it would be a grave and irreversible injustice. To deport him now is to punish him to death. Once again, 50 years later, as we celebrate resilience this year across the nation, we are now celebrating a fight within our own grounds, right here in United States, right here in Michigan. We're now fighting the same fight within our own country. Thousands of Southeast Asian Americans, many that entered legally admitted as refugees are being deported for decade old offenses they've longed paid for. America is our country. All we ask is the right to stay in the home that we've helped to build and work hard to protect. We are not seeking special treatment. We are asking for justice, compassion, and a second chance in this country to claim what we believe in. To Governor Whitmer and members of Congress and all elected officials, please help bring Lou and the many others home. Urge ICE and DHS to release him on humanitarian grounds. Help his case. Help us preserve the integrity of our laws and the dignity of our families. And to the public allies and the media. Please call our elected officials. Please call these offices.  Please share Lou's story. We need voices. Voices louder than ours alone. It is hard times you guys. It is real. And I speak to you from the bottom of my heart. Please help me and our families in the many that are suffering. This is our home. These are our children. This is my husband and this is our fight. Let him come home. Let our families be whole again, and let America keep its promise. Thank you guys for hearing me. Miko: Lou Young is a community leader. Michigan, who actually runs a nonprofit in support of Hmong folks in that community, and is targeted and also has a stay of removal. So we're doing a targeted campaign for both of these folks, Lou Yang and Mohan Karki, to be able to get them released to overturn their original convictions and they also have spouses that are telling their stories and telling the impact these detentions have had. Because while this current administration talks about getting rid of criminals, what they are actually doing is breaking apart families and community. Swati Rayasam: You are tuned in to Apex Express on 94.1 KPFA, 89.3 KPFB in Berkeley, 88.1 KFCF in Fresno and online@kpfa.org. Coming up is Deporting the Pilgrim from the Anakbayan Long Beach Mayday Mix tape.   Swati Rayasam: That was please be strong, featuring Hushed, loudmouth and Joe handsome. And before that was deporting the pilgrim from the Unec Bayan Long Beach Mayday Mixtape. Now back to the show. Miko:  I wanna shift us a little bit to talking about Asian american representation in the larger fabric of immigration justice in the United States. Mostly many of our Asian communities have been like isolated, not really involved in the broader immigration movement. And I'm wondering if you could talk a little bit about the difficulty and nuance of bringing your community struggle to the forefront because many of us heard about the Venezuelans and the Mexicans that have been deported and what was going on, but we don't hear as much about these stories of our Asian sisters and brothers. I wonder if one of you could give voice to that. Robin: Before going there can I add something to  Miko: of course.  Robin: crimmigration conversation? So when you all are sharing about that, I was thinking about, the justice system in this country and what we are seeing right now is a broken justice system. Like you said, Miko, where families are separated where families are broken, and what I don't understand is, when, let's say your loved one gets into trouble, makes a mistake, and gets into a trouble, then, as a human being, like, don't you want your loved ones to rebuild their lives? Like Yes, of course there is a system that you have to follow, the laws that you have to follow, but at the end, I think we all want our loved ones to come back, rebuild their lives, right? And what we're seeing in this country is they're constantly breaking the families. And I don't see how we are going to build a better future when we are constantly, hurting the families. And in the cases of detention and deportation, what we're seeing is the double punishment. Like the mistakes that they had made, but then throughout their life, they have to go through that, a continuous cycle of being punished. And not just the individuals, but their family members have also go through the challenges, the suffering, right? And in the case of Bhutanese from double punishment to double expulsion to this, the state of being statelessness. Right? So what kind of future we are imagining when an individual has to go through that continuous cycle of being punished and not having the opportunity to rebuild their lives. So that's a big question mark that I think, we all need to think about. To your later question around my community and the larger Asian American context or the national context. My community is relatively new to this country. We lived, almost two decades in a refugee camp, which was a enclosed camp. And our lives were dependent on foreign aids like UNHCR or ILWF. Pretty much I would say we had our own world over there. And for us to work outside the refugee camp was illegal. There was no laws that gave us the permission to work outside. So we were not pretty much exposed to the outer world. So for us to come to US was a big step. Which means pretty much from basic every day stuffs like, you know, using a bathroom, using a kitchen, taking a bus. All of those were foreign for us. So for our community to really tap into the education system, the political landscape of this country. And also like the experience of being expelled for voicing our, our opinions, for fighting for our rights. Right? So for us, for our community to kind of step in into the politics, it's like re-traumatizing ourselves. I would say there are a lot of barriers, multi-layered barriers for our community members to really tap into the larger political, like socio political landscape, from language barriers to culture barriers to education, to pretty much everything. So right now, the way our committee has been being attacked. It's a surprise to the community. And also it is like kind of traumatizing the community and taking us back to the same place of feeling, insecure, feeling like we don't have a home. And we did hope that this is legally, this is going to be a home. Because after coming to the US most of us became the legal citizens of this country and we started rebuilding our lives. Now it's kind of like going back to the same circle of statelessness. Miko: Thank you for sharing about that. Kao Ye, would you like to add to that? Kao Ye: When I think of the Hmong American community and even the Southeast Asian community and why the narratives of what is happening still feels very invisible. I think of how our community, we were assimilating for survival. And I speak on that as a child of my refugee parents and siblings where growing up we were taught to, listen, not speak out, not cause trouble. Go through the system, listen to authority, listen to law enforcement. And because of that, I feel it's shaped a culture of fear. Fear to dissent and fear to speak out because we care so much about the stability of our families. And we wanted to protect ourselves, because of everything we've gone through with the war. And we are finding that it's been challenging for our community members to come forward with their stories. Honestly, we're still sitting on that and we're still kind of sitting through like, why is there that tension? You know, I feel like folks are going through a lot and even folks have, our impacted loved ones, but they're afraid to tell their story because of fear of of retaliation. And so I think that there is a level of, I think that lack of even psychological safety, but real, physical, real financial safety that people have. And I think that being a factor to the assimilation, but also this facade of like the American dream and like if we don't just disrupt, if we don't speak out, we will be protected. And, white supremacy, right? Like we will be okay. And it's a facade because we know that because our communities are the ones getting kidnapped and getting deported. Right. And so I think there is that fear, but there's also recognition of this now, this facade that the silence doesn't protect us and that there is a real need for us to really, be strong in speaking out, not just for our SEA siblings that are impacted, but for all of our immigrant groups, even the Bhutanese community, right. That's been impacted during this time. And so I, yeah, I think it is that multi-layered experience of being a Southeast Asian refugee community on top of, being part of this AAPI umbrella. AAPI we are not homogenous. We all have very unique histories as to how we have dealt with the systems in this country and how we came into this country. And so I think it's been challenging to make space for those nuances. And at the end of the day, I still see the interconnections that we all have together too. And so, I think it's the willingness to make space for those different stories. And I am finding that more of our ethnic media, our smaller news outlets are more willing to cover those stories as opposed to, these larger mainstream outlets. Like they're not covering those stories, but we are. Miko: Thank you. Oh, both of you have brought up so much today about our failed criminal justice system, about us punishing people as opposed to rehabilitating people and punishing them more than once. We brought up questions around statelessness and the impact that it has, and I just recently learned that the United States does not have any policy on Statelessness. So one of the things that this coalition of folks is trying to do is to get a congressional hearing to help the United States develop policy around statelessness, because it is actually our responsibility and our duty to do that. The other thing I hear you both talking about is this good immigrant, bad immigrant trope, which we've heard of a lot, but I think that's also very much connected to why so many members of our communities don't wanna speak out because this connection with, you know, quote unquote criminal history might be something that's shameful. And I'm wondering if you both see that as a divide mostly between elders in the community and younger folks. Robin, do you wanna talk about that? Robin: Yeah. I mean, initially when we were mobilizing our community members to fight against the the unjust and unfair detention and deportation, this issue around the perception around good immigrants and bad immigrants became one of the main topic of discussion. We had to deal with people, and mostly elders, but I would say some young folks as well, who would pull themselves back on speaking against this issue because for them people who are being deported or detained are criminals and they deserve this kind of mindset. And not being able to see the larger picture of how the administration is targeting the immigrant and the refugee population of this country and really trying to dismantle community power, right? So, yes, it is a challenge that we are, we're going through and I think it's going to be quite a bit of work, to really build solidarity within our own communities. Kao Ye: I feel that the divide in the Hmong community is stemming from class and education. I feel as though when folks are articulating, regurgitating these justifications of the bad immigrant as to why folks should be deported it's folks that maybe kind of made it in their lives and now they're comparing themselves to folks that were not in that situation. And there is this growing within our community as well, where some folks are getting that education, getting, good jobs. But so much of our community, we still suffer from poverty, right? And so, I think that has been really interesting to witness the level of division because of class, because of income and also the education piece. Because oftentimes when folks are feeling this, it comes from a place of ignorance as well. And so that's why I think the education piece is so important. I actually feel though our elders are more understanding because these are their children that are being separated from them. And Robin's point is that when we have loved ones that go through the system, we just want them to rebuild their lives and be self-sufficient. And I feel like those are the values that I grew up in my community where our parents were always about keeping the family together to a fault, you know? And so they don't want separation. They just want us to be well and to do well, and to turn our lives around. And so, I feel strongly that our elders, they do understand that the importance of giving this opportunity for us to, to stay together and turn our lives around. Miko: Thank you so much, both of you for joining me here today to talk about this important conversation. I'm wondering if you could provide our audience with how they could find out more about what is going on and what are next steps for our audience members. Robin, let's start with you. Robin: Yeah. I just wanted to add what, Kao Ye talked about. I do agree the patterns around the divide is based on class. And I do see that in the community, and not just the class, but in our community class and caste, I would say. And in terms of the class, there were some instances where we had to deal with even the highly educated like PhD holders kind of, questioning us like, you know, what we are advocating for, and, I couldn't understand like, I couldn't relate the education, the title, the degree that he holds and the perception around this issue. Right. So, I just wanted to echo that. So, in terms of our work and Asian Refugees United, our website is www.asianrefugees.org And you can find us in our Instagram, Facebook, Asian Refugees United. Miko: And you can also get latest news about what's happening at bhutaneserefugeerights.com. Yeah. And Kao Ye how can folks find out more about your work? Kao Ye: Right now HIP is part of a statewide network in California called the Pardon Refugees Campaign, where we are really pushing Governor Newsom to pardon all refugees, not just Southeast Asians because of everything that we talked about, about how our families, they deserve to stay together. And so, I don't think we have a website up yet, but you can follow this campaign with us. We will be having a rally and press conference, coming up soon, in the next few weeks. And so, I would say that please follow us in that work where we are really moving in coalition with all of our uh, grassroots partners to advocate for our loved ones that are currently being impacted. Miko: Thank you so much, Robin Gurung, Asian Refugees United and Kao Ye Thao from Hmong Innovating Politics. Thank you so much for being with us here today, and I hope you listeners out there take action to keep our families together, to keep our people in the communities as loved ones where they belong. Thank you all. Have a great night. Swati Rayasam: I'm so grateful that Miko was able to talk to Robin and Kao Ye. And for those who missed it, visit bhutanese refugee rights.org for the most recent updates on the Bhutanese refugees. The press conference in rally Kao Ye mentioned took place last week on August 21st, 2025, but check out the Pardon Refugees Campaign for updates from the coalition supporting Hmong, Cambodian Laotian, Myan, and other refugees facing deportation. Thanks so much for tuning in to Apex Express. Please check out our website at kpfa.org/program/apexexpress to find out more about the show tonight and to find out how you can take direct action. We thank all of you listeners out there. Keep resisting, keep organizing, keep creating, and sharing your visions with the world. Your voices are important. Apex Express is produced by  Miko Lee, along with Jalena Keene-Lee, Ayame Keene-Lee, Preeti Mangala Shekar,  Anuj Vaida, Cheryl Truong, Isabel Li, Ravi Grover, and me Swati Rayasam. Thank you so much to the team at KPFA for their support and have a good night.   The post APEX Express – August 28, 2025 – “And we became stateless again” appeared first on KPFA.

July 17, 2002. Butler County, Pennsylvania. After spending the night partying and drinking, 15-year old Scott Fosnaught and his 15-year old best friend, Shawn Baur, leave a friend's house in order to walk back home during the early morning hours. Shortly thereafter, their bodies are discovered by the side of a rural road and Scott's injuries seem to indicate that he was the victim of a hit-and-run by a vehicle. However, Shawn only has some fatal head wounds and a crushed skull, but since he has no injuries beneath his shoulders, it appears that he was killed in another fashion. This makes the boys' families suspect that their deaths were not an accident, but no suspects are ever identified and the truth about what happened remains unknown. On this week's episode of “The Trail Went Cold”, we explore the baffling unexplained deaths of two teenage boys. In addition, we will also discuss the unsolved 1992 murder of David Hurley, who was shot to death in an apparent road rage incident in neighbouring Allegheny County. Additional Reading: https://archive.triblive.com/news/hit-run-driver-suspected-in-death-of-2-teens/ https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news/state-police-butler-county-cold-case-reward/ https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news/20-years-since-deaths-of-shawn-baur-and-scott-fosnaught-butler-county/ https://www.wpxi.com/news/local/mother-still-looking-answers-21-years-after-son-friend-killed-rural-butler-county-road/MA3EVNH2N5DHDOE5BMVPLBTAPQ/ https://www.butlereagle.com/20220721/mystery-still-surrounds-deaths-of-two-seneca-valley-teens/ https://www.post-gazette.com/local/north/2017/07/17/shawn-baur-scott-fosnaught-cold-case-butler-county-cashdollar-road-forward-township/stories/201707170148 https://www.pennlive.com/news/2023/12/accident-or-murder-police-families-still-baffled-by-2002-deaths-of-boys-on-rural-western-pa-road.html https://www.newspapers.com/image/90299670/ https://www.newspapers.com/image/1079296828/ https://unsolvedmysteries.fandom.com/wiki/David_Hurley https://unsolved.com/gallery/david-hurley/ https://archive.triblive.com/news/new-leads-emerge-when-old-case-featured-on-tv/ http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=218248 “The Trail Went Cold” is on Patreon. Visit www.patreon.com/thetrailwentcold to become a patron and gain access to our exclusive bonus content. The Trail Went Cold is produced and edited by Magill Foote. All music is composed by Vince Nitro.

We started with more fallout about the Cam Heyward contract ‘dispute' that spurred up yesterday with the All-Pro wanting a pay raise. Fans have gone from loving Heyward and his legacy in Pittsburgh to calling him a ‘diva' and ‘distraction' at training camp. We took some calls on the topic. Chris Boswell is getting out of this scot-free because Cam Heyward is taking up the headlines. How will this work out? More calls. Bucco Minute – 6 shutout innings from Paul Skenes, who is reportedly ‘optimistic' about where the team is going. There was also a man that pooped in a pizza box in Butler County.

Part 2 of our Butler County series with guest Tommy Hines continues the journey through the county's rich and often dramatic past. We explore the impact of the Civil War, how Butler County navigated its divided loyalties, and the transformation that followed in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.https://linktr.ee/Kyhistorypod

Welcome to Part 1 of our deep dive into Butler County, Kentucky with special guest Tommy Hines, Executive Director at South Union Shaker Village. In this episode, we explore the early history and settlement of Butler County. From Native American presence and frontier migration routes to the founding of towns and the evolution of agriculture and trade, Butler County has a rich and layered past. https://linktr.ee/Kyhistorypod

In today’s Trish Regan Show, Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson is under serious fire after ordering police NOT to cooperate with federal immigration officials—placing him in direct violation of federal law. With President Trump vowing to arrest any official who obstructs the deportation of criminal illegal migrants, Johnson may now face legal consequences. Meanwhile, leaked audio from a heated town hall shows furious Chicago residents demanding the mayor put American citizens first—not illegal migrants. And it's not just Chicago: L.A. Mayor Karen Bass may soon face similar legal jeopardy. PLUS: Former CIA Director John Brennan appears to be unraveling as new investigations loom. Trish breaks it all down. Also: ⚡ Secret Service agents in Butler County, PA placed on leave. ⚡ Trump’s top aide Susie Wiles calls his survival “divine intervention.” ⚡ Joe Biden’s doctor PLEADS THE FIFTH in auto-pen scandal. ⚡ Michelle Obama and Julia Louis-Dreyfus play the victim—Trish asks: What about Riley Gaines and Title IX?

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New charges for the Venezuelan man who posed as a high school student in Toledo; some Butler County sheriff's deputies are authorized to make ICE arrests; the new state budget is going to the governor's desk; Sen. Bernie Moreno wants President Trump to receive the Nobel Peace Prize.

It’s being hailed as the largest private sector investment in state history. Tech giant Amazon has announced it will spend $20 billion on two data center complexes in Pennsylvania. President Donald Trump has posted on social media about the proposed sale of US Steel of Pittsburgh to Japan-based Nippon. But details are still vague, and a deadline to complete the deal is a week away. A proposal to fund mass transit in Pennsylvania would involve a fee attached to the price for rideshare services, such as Lyft or Uber. With the summer driving season underway, gas prices seem to have settled in for the time being. We have the current trends at the pump. The US Supreme Court has rejected a Republican appeal and left in place a ruling allowing voters in Pennsylvania to cast provisional ballots when their mail-in votes are rejected for not following technical procedures in state law. The justices acted on an appeal filed by the Republican National Committee, the state GOP and the Republican-majority election board in Butler County. A motorcyclist was killed after a police pursuit last Thursday night. Pennsylvania State Police say a West Shore Regional Police officer attempted a traffic stop in Wormleysburg involving a motorcyclist who police say committed numerous traffic offenses. The midstate is resembling a mini-United Nations this week. Harrisburg University is hosting a delegation from the European Union. The health of the Chesapeake Bay declined over the past year, according to an annual report card issued by the University of Maryland Center for Environmental Science. The University gave the bay a C. Support WITF: https://www.witf.org/support/give-now/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Willie talks to Mike Cline, the cousin of a man killed in OTR over the weekend due to low police presence. Also Sheriff Richard K Jones explains why a local kids was arrested for deportation in Butler County. Finally Senator John Husted comments on the LA riots.

Willie talks to Mike Cline, the cousin of a man killed in OTR over the weekend due to low police presence. Also Sheriff Richard K Jones explains why a local kids was arrested for deportation in Butler County. Finally Senator John Husted comments on the LA riots.

Willie talks to Mike Cline, the cousin of a man killed in OTR over the weekend due to low police presence. Also Sheriff Richard K Jones explains why a local kids was arrested for deportation in Butler County. Finally Senator John Husted comments on the LA riots.

Either Dan Bongino and Kash Patel are corrupt liars or they are lying because they have been made to fear. There is no option where they are telling the truth and we all know it. So what then?Introduction* Opening Remarks (00:00:00 - 00:02:21)* The hosts, self-described as the "two kings of the Rube Empire," introduce the episode with a fiery tone, labeling themselves right-wing extremists, supernaturalists, and Christian bigots.* The Philosopher King holds 51% of the power, while the Iron King is the "people's champ" and hosts the show with unfiltered energy due to Dusty's absence.* The hosts emphasize their Christian faith, with the Iron King declaring his love for Jesus Christ and urging listeners to follow Him.* Tone is set for a candid, no-holds-barred discussion, promising to "give it straight with no chaser."Main Topics Discussed* Criticism of Dan Bongino and Kash Patel (00:00:01 - 00:22:10)* Context: The hosts express frustration with conservative figures Dan Bongino and Kash Patel for statements made on a Sunday talk show (possibly CBS) regarding Jeffrey Epstein's death and the Butler County shooter.* Epstein's Death (00:10:43 - 00:17:18)* Bongino and Patel claimed Epstein killed himself, which the hosts vehemently reject, citing well-known inconsistencies:* Epstein was in a suicide-proof cell with paper sheets.* Cameras malfunctioned, and guards fell asleep, later being exonerated.* Three neck bones were broken, unusual for a suicide.* A cell phone was found in his possession, and his cellmate allegedly tried to kill him.* The hosts mock the "trust the files" narrative, referencing Steven Crowder's breakdown of the impossibility of Epstein's suicide.* They argue this reflects either coercion or complicity, highlighting the power of the "deep state."* Butler County Shooter (00:21:50 - 00:24:36)* Bongino and Patel dismissed conspiracy theories about the shooter, Matthew Thomas Crooks, claiming he acted alone.* The hosts counter with suspicious details:* Crooks' house was wiped clean, and his parents were heavily lawyered up.* His parents were psychologists, potentially linked to CIA-like manipulation.* A call to FBI headquarters was traced to his phone.* Security failures included an understaffed Secret Service, a sloped roof left unguarded, and CNN's rare coverage of the Trump rally that day.* They suggest an orchestrated assassination attempt meant to spark civil unrest, foiled by divine intervention.* Key Takeaway: The hosts view these statements as evidence of a controlled narrative, undermining trust in conservative leaders and exposing the impotence of political figures against systemic corruption.* Distrust in the System and Political Figures (00:18:51 - 00:29:00)* The hosts argue that the presidency and government are powerless against a "deep state" pulling the strings, using an Avenged Sevenfold music video as a metaphor for unseen powers controlling politicians.* They criticize the blind loyalty to figures like Trump, emphasizing that no politician can save America—only Christ can.* The hosts reject the "lesser of two evils" voting argument and lament the lack of principled leaders like Patrick Henry.* They cite Thomas Massie as a rare principled politician who achieves little due to systemic resistance, reinforcing their view that the government is not for the people.* Critique of Political Labels and Conservatism (00:07:35 - 00:09:30)* Referencing Joel Webbin's podcast, the hosts argue there are no true conservatives in government, only "liberals and liberals."* They identify as Christian nationalists, prioritizing biblical principles like truthfulness over political allegiance.* They express frustration with Republicans who attack principled critics rather than addressing systemic lies.* Societal Decline and Spiritual Perspective (00:04:19 - 00:05:55)* The hosts compare America's state to a self-implosion, likening it to biblical Judah facing internal collapse rather than external invasion.* They draw parallels to Elijah's time under Ahab and Jezebel, positioning themselves as voices crying out in the wilderness against a corrupt system.* The Minor Prophets provide "copium" for dealing with a seemingly lost cause, reinforcing their belief that only Christ, not human government, offers salvation.* Positive Developments and White Pills (00:15:21 - 00:19:00, 01:04:50 - 01:05:46)* Policy Wins: The hosts praise RFK Jr. for removing food dyes and challenging the ineffective HHS, as well as Trump for passing no tax on tips, though they push for broader tax reform like eliminating income tax.* Cultural Shifts: They highlight the rise in homeschooling and Christian schools as signs of a growing resistance to secular propaganda, attributing this to divine providence.* Incremental Change: While acknowledging small victories, they urge listeners not to settle, criticizing Republicans who celebrate minimal progress without pushing further.* Joe Rogan and Tucker Carlson's Spiritual Awakening (01:13:31 - 01:20:02)* The hosts cite Joe Rogan attending a Protestant church and Tucker Carlson reading the Bible as evidence of a cultural shift toward Christianity.* Rogan, once dismissive of Christians, now sees the need for Jesus, influenced by guests like Wes Huff and Dave Smith.* Carlson's journey from atheism to faith further illustrates God's movement in influential figures.* This "mustard seed" growth of faith in prominent voices gives hope that God is working despite systemic corruption.* Call to Action for Christians (01:07:49 - 01:13:02)* The hosts reject withdrawing from society or violent rebellion, instead advocating for a long-term strategy of faithful Christian living:* Raise families to love Jesus, build strong churches, and spread faith organically.* Example: A friend running for mayor of Orlando, driven by faith, exemplifies local impact.* They emphasize that faith in Christ, not the system, will restore society, likening it to the kingdom of God growing like a mustard seed.* Evangelistic Appeal (01:20:06 - 01:25:56)* The hosts directly address non-believers, arguing that the world's evil reflects human sinfulness, which only Christ can redeem.* They challenge the notion of morality without God, asserting that evil (e.g., Epstein's actions) is only recognizable because of God's standard.* They call listeners to submit to Jesus, the only perfect founder of faith, for personal and societal transformation.Key Themes* Distrust in Institutions: The hosts view the government, FBI, and mainstream media as irredeemably corrupt, controlled by unseen forces.* Christian Faith as the Solution: They repeatedly affirm that only Jesus Christ, not political figures or systems, can save individuals and society.* Critique of Blind Loyalty: They challenge the idolization of politicians like Trump, urging listeners to prioritize principles over personalities.* Hope in Divine Providence: Despite systemic failures, the hosts see God moving through cultural shifts (e.g., Rogan, Carlson) and grassroots efforts (e.g., homeschooling).* Long-Term Faithfulness: They advocate for incremental, faith-driven change through strong families and churches, rejecting quick fixes or violence.Notable Quotes* On Epstein's Death: “You want me to believe that Jeffrey Epstein killed himself? Because just trust me, bro, I read the files.” (00:13:51)* On the System: “Trump's not in control of the country right now, guys. Sorry. He's not.” (00:19:00)* On Faith: “Faith belongs in only one place. That's Jesus Christ.” (01:12:03)* On Hope: “God will not be mocked. God is taking the number one and two voices in podcasting and turning them to Jesus.” (01:17:04)* On Evangelism: “What are you waiting for? What else do you need to see in 2025 at this point?” (01:20:27)Cultural References* Alex Jones: Quoted for his blunt style: “Don't crap and piss on me and tell me it's raining.” (00:03:18)* Avenged Sevenfold: Music video “The Stage” used to illustrate hidden powers controlling politicians. (00:19:14)* Lord of the Rings: The ring's destruction symbolizes the system's eventual collapse through its own corruption. (01:06:42)* The Matrix: Boomers are likened to those plugged into the Matrix, needing to wake up to reality. (01:00:23)* Narnia: “Aslan's on the move” as a metaphor for God's active work. (01:07:38)* Ghostbusters: “Cats and dogs living together” humorously describes the chaotic cultural shift. (01:20:02)Verse of the Day* Matthew 25:31-32: “When the Son of Man comes in His glory and all the angels with Him, then He will sit on His glorious throne and all nations will be gathered before Him. He will separate them one from another, just as the shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.”* Context: Emphasizes Jesus' ultimate authority and judgment, reinforcing the hosts' focus on His sovereignty.Closing Prayer (01:27:54 - 01:28:47)* The Iron King prays for listeners to seek righteousness, rely on Jesus, and raise families to love Him.* Prays for safety for Dusty in Chicago and the hosts' travels, asking for God's blessing on the “Rube Nation.”Call to Action* Visit kingsplaining.com or kingsplaining.substack.com for more content.* Like, share, subscribe, and comment to support the podcast.* Buy merchandise to help grow the show.* Spread the word fearlessly: “Be not afraid. Be of good cheer. Take heart.” (01:29:24)Final Notes* The episode is a passionate, unfiltered critique of political and cultural failures, balanced with a hopeful call to Christian faithfulness.* The hosts' raw style, humor, and biblical worldview aim to awaken listeners to systemic corruption while pointing to Jesus as the ultimate hope. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit kingsplaining.substack.com/subscribe

The Rich Zeoli Show- Hour 1: 3:05pm- A 38-year-old Harrisburg man was charged with setting fire to the Pennsylvania Governor's mansion. According to reports, the man threw two Molotov cocktails into the residence and planned to beat Governor Josh Shapiro with a hammer. Thankfully, Shapiro and his family were unharmed. President Donald Trump condemned the act and stated: “A thing like that cannot be allowed to happen.” Meanwhile, late last week, Shawn Monper—a man from Butler County, Pennsylvania—was charged with threatening to kill President Donald Trump and Elon Musk in videos posted to his YouTube channel “Mr. Satan.” Monper allegedly began purchasing guns after Trump's inauguration. 3:15pm- During an interview with CNN's “MisinfoNation” with host Donie O'Sullivan, former Washington Post and New York Times reporter Taylor Lorenz referred to Luigi Mangione as a “morally good man.” Mangione has been charged with assassinating UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thomas. In the past, Lorenz has baselessly suggested that Thomas and his company were guilty of murder for denying healthcare coverage. Last week, when questioned by the press, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer declined to condemn violence against Tesla vehicles and their drivers—instead opting to condemn Elon Musk's work on behalf of the Trump Administration. Why isn't the left vociferously condemning politically motivated violence in America? 3:30pm- While speaking with the press from the Oval Office alongside President Donald Trump, El Salvador President Nayib Bukele revealed that he has no plans to return Abrego Garcia who was deported to El Salvador after the Trump Administration determined he was in the U.S. illegally and a member of the gang MS-13. In a recent ruling, the Supreme Court determined that Garcia's deportation was, in part, the result of an “administrative error” and that he should be returned to the United States—though, after the error is corrected, the man would ultimately be eligible for deportation anyway. While speaking with the press, Homeland Security Advisor Stephen Miller denied an administrative error ever occurred. The Trump Administration also noted that because Garcia is a citizen of El Salvador, they have no recourse if Bukele denies their request for release. Weekday afternoons on Talk Radio 1210 WPHT, Rich Zeoli gives the expert analysis and humorous take that we need in this crazy political climate. Along with Executive Producer Matt DeSantis and Justin Otero, the Zeoli show is the next generation of talk radio and you can be a part of it weekday afternoons 3-7pm.

The Rich Zeoli Show- Full Episode (04/14/2025): 3:05pm- A 38-year-old Harrisburg man was charged with setting fire to the Pennsylvania Governor's mansion. According to reports, the man threw two Molotov cocktails into the residence and planned to beat Governor Josh Shapiro with a hammer. Thankfully, Shapiro and his family were unharmed. President Donald Trump condemned the act and stated: “A thing like that cannot be allowed to happen.” Meanwhile, late last week, Shawn Monper—a man from Butler County, Pennsylvania—was charged with threatening to kill President Donald Trump and Elon Musk in videos posted to his YouTube channel “Mr. Satan.” Monper allegedly began purchasing guns after Trump's inauguration. 3:15pm- During an interview with CNN's “MisinfoNation” with host Donie O'Sullivan, former Washington Post and New York Times reporter Taylor Lorenz referred to Luigi Mangione as a “morally good man.” Mangione has been charged with assassinating UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thomas. In the past, Lorenz has baselessly suggested that Thomas and his company were guilty of murder for denying healthcare coverage. Last week, when questioned by the press, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer declined to condemn violence against Tesla vehicles and their drivers—instead opting to condemn Elon Musk's work on behalf of the Trump Administration. Why isn't the left vociferously condemning politically motivated violence in America? 3:30pm- While speaking with the press from the Oval Office alongside President Donald Trump, El Salvador President Nayib Bukele revealed that he has no plans to return Abrego Garcia who was deported to El Salvador after the Trump Administration determined he was in the U.S. illegally and a member of the gang MS-13. In a recent ruling, the Supreme Court determined that Garcia's deportation was, in part, the result of an “administrative error” and that he should be returned to the United States—though, after the error is corrected, the man would ultimately be eligible for deportation anyway. While speaking with the press, Homeland Security Advisor Stephen Miller denied an administrative error ever occurred. The Trump Administration also noted that because Garcia is a citizen of El Salvador, they have no recourse if Bukele denies their request for release. 4:00pm- Bill D'Agostino—Senior Research Analyst at Media Research Center—joins The Rich Zeoli Show to breakdown some of the best (and worst) clips from corporate media: a Boston Globe senior opinion writer compares the modern American economy to the 1930s, Dana Bash insists CNN doesn't hate America, Taylor Lorenz describes the man responsible for assassinating healthcare CEO Brian Thomas as “morally good,” and Democrats STILL (somehow) want Kamala Harris to be their presidential candidate in 2028. 4:30pm- Appearing on ABC News, sports broadcaster Stephen A. Smith said he has “no choice” but to at least consider a presidential run in 2028. Rich notes that he has no chance of winning a primary contest—because he isn't sufficiently “woke” for Democrat voters. On his podcast, Bill Maher argued that the Democrat Party has gone too far placating the “woke”—and it risks making the party “irrelevant.” 4:50pm- Jeff Bezos's Blue Origin aerospace company sent an all-female crew into space on Monday—including pop singer Katy Perry! In a clip that has gone viral on social media, Perry tells a journalist about how she reads about string theory in her spare time…but it's hilariously clear she has no idea what she's talking about. 5:05pm- According to a report from NJ.com, the New Jersey Education Association (NJEA) has contributed $22.25 million to benefit Sean Spiller's NJ gubernatorial campaign. Spiller, who didn't have enough state-wide support to qualify for two upcoming Democrat primary debates, is a former high school science biology teacher who also leads the NJEA. He earns $370,000 per year. Rich wonders: how is this legal? 5:25pm- Montage: Every year, since ...

A man was arrested for publicly threatening an assassination, and apparently the only connection with Satanism is his online name. But that probably won't stop people from asking us about it, so Bill offers his thoughts on the story. Also, answering listener questions on Church of Satan media appearances, Google searches on Satanism, and a Satanic look at 12-step programs. 00:00 - Intro 01:05 - "Mr. Satan" Shawn Monper: Good riddance 06:27 - Speaking of stupid... 06:54 - Church of Satan on Joe Rogan? 13:44 - Google Search results on "Satanism" 24:58 - Satanecdote 27:05 - 12-step programs and their alternatives 36:22 - A more uplifting note

The Rich Zeoli Show- Hour 2: 4:05pm- BREAKING NEWS: Louisiana immigration Judge Jamee Comans determined that she has no authority to question Secretary of State Marco Rubio's decision to deport Mahmoud Khalil——a former Columbia University graduate student and a non-U.S. citizen—who has been outspoken about his support for the terrorist organization Hamas and ending Western civilization. Khalil has until April 23rd to request a stay on his deportation. He will be deported to either Syria or Algeria. 4:30pm- According to a report from ABC27 News, Shawn Monper—a man from Butler County, Pennsylvania—has been charged with threatening to kill President Donald Trump and Elon Musk in videos posted to his YouTube channel “Mr. Satan.” Monper allegedly began purchasing guns after Trump's inauguration. 4:50pm- While visiting Rome, Italy, Queen Camilla was presented with a Margherita pizza to celebrate her 20th wedding anniversary. However, Rich, Matt, and Justin are disturbed…the pizza doesn't look very good! Weekday afternoons on Talk Radio 1210 WPHT, Rich Zeoli gives the expert analysis and humorous take that we need in this crazy political climate. Along with Executive Producer Matt DeSantis and Justin Otero, the Zeoli show is the next generation of talk radio and you can be a part of it weekday afternoons 3-7pm.

The Rich Zeoli Show- Full Episode (04/11/2025): 3:05pm- U.S.-China Trade Feud Escalates: Earlier this week, President Donald Trump increased reciprocal tariffs on Chinese imports to 145%—citing the country's adoption of unfair trade practices and its role in fentanyl distribution. In response, China announced that it will be placing a 125% on American imports. Trump Administration Trade Representative Jamieson Greer called the decision “not terribly surprising but certainly unfortunate.” Rich emphasizes that President Trump “needs to announce deals” in order to calm markets and allow the administration to focus its efforts on remedying Chinese trade predations. 3:10pm- On Friday, White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt said “the phones are ringing off the hook” with U.S. trade partners seeking to discuss retooled agreements. Yesterday, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said he had been in contact with as many as 75 nations—and he plans to begin negotiations in the coming days. 3:20pm- While appearing on Fox News, Acting U.S. Attorney for the District of New Jersey Alina Habba revealed that she has directed her office to investigate Governor Phil Murphy (D-NJ) over the state's refusal to assist federal immigration enforcement officials. 3:40pm- On Friday, President Donald Trump expressed interest in making Daylight Saving Time permanent. In a post to Truth Social, he wrote: “The House and Senate should push hard for more Daylight at the end of a day. Very popular and, most importantly, no more changing of the clocks, a big inconvenience and, for our government, A VERY COSTLY EVENT!!!” Rich jokes that Trump will simply send Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent to negotiate with the sun for an additional hour of daylight—after successfully negotiating new trade deals with Vietnam and Japan, of course. 4:05pm- BREAKING NEWS: Louisiana immigration Judge Jamee Comans determined that she has no authority to question Secretary of State Marco Rubio's decision to deport Mahmoud Khalil——a former Columbia University graduate student and a non-U.S. citizen—who has been outspoken about his support for the terrorist organization Hamas and ending Western civilization. Khalil has until April 23rd to request a stay on his deportation. He will be deported to either Syria or Algeria. 4:30pm- According to a report from ABC27 News, Shawn Monper—a man from Butler County, Pennsylvania—has been charged with threatening to kill President Donald Trump and Elon Musk in videos posted to his YouTube channel “Mr. Satan.” Monper allegedly began purchasing guns after Trump's inauguration. 4:50pm- While visiting Rome, Italy, Queen Camilla was presented with a Margherita pizza to celebrate her 20th wedding anniversary. However, Rich, Matt, and Justin are disturbed…the pizza doesn't look very good! 5:00pm- Dr. Victoria Coates— Former Deputy National Security Advisor & the Vice President of the Davis Institute for National Security and Foreign Policy at The Heritage Foundation—joins The Rich Zeoli Show to discuss an Axios piece baselessly attacking William Ruger, who was recently appointed to the position of Deputy Director of National Intelligence by Director Tulsi Gabbard. Plus, Dr. Coates weighs-in on the Trump Administration's tariff confrontation with China, a report that China was responsible for cyberattacks on American infrastructure, and NATO warning that Russia could cut undersea cables triggering—what some have described—as a “worldwide internet blackout.” Dr. Coates is author of the book: “The Battle for the Jewish State: How Israel—and America—Can Win” which features a forward from Senator Ted Cruz. You can find the book here: https://a.co/d/iTMA4Vb. 5:40pm- While speaking with podcaster Adam Carolla, actor Josh Duhmal revealed that people flip him off because he drives a Tesla Cybertruck! He emphasized that he isn't political and just likes the car. PLUS: Rep. Jasmine Crockett (D-TX) continues to espouse nonsense, Rep. Al Green ( ...

"Good Evening: The show begins with Salena Zito in Butler County, PA, where small businesses are looking forward to a successful year." 1913 Gettysburg CBS EYE ON THE WORLD WITH JOHN BATCHELOR FIRST HOUR 9:00-9:15: KEYSTONEREPORT: POSITIVE SMALL BIZ IN BUTLER COUNTY Guest: Salena Zito (Middle of Somewhere, @DCExaminer, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, New York Post) 9:15-9:30: PACIFICWATCH/VEGASREPORT: HOLLYWOOD 2.0; ARMADILLO MLB STADIUM Guest: @JCBliss 9:30-9:45: SMALLBUSINESSAMERICA: ORDER BOOKS LOOK GOOD Guest: @GeneMarks (@Guardian @PhillyInquirer) 9:45-10:00: SMALLBUSINESSAMERICA: DOGE APPROVED Guest: @GeneMarks (@Guardian @PhillyInquirer) SECOND HOUR 10:00-10:15: OCEANIA: AMERICAN SAMOA, GUAM, NORTHERN MARIANAS AT RISK (Part 1/2) Guest: Cleo Paskal, FDD 10:15-10:30: OCEANIA: AMERICAN SAMOA, GUAM, NORTHERN MARIANAS AT RISK (Part 2/2) Guest: Cleo Paskal, FDD 10:30-10:45: UKRAINE: SATELLITE COMMUNICATIONS AND WAR-STAGING Guest: [Guest name not provided] 10:45-11:00: NATO: BUYING US NUKES FOR GERMANY Guest: Henry Sokolski, NPEC THIRD HOUR Book Discussion: "The Noble State: Governance Options in an Ignoble Era" by Gregory R. Copley 11:00-11:15: Part 1/4 11:15-11:30: Part 2/4 11:30-11:45: Part 3/4 11:45-12:00: Part 4/4 FOURTH HOUR 12:00-12:15: LANCASTER REPORT: SLOWER, EMPTY STOREFRONTS Guest: Jim McTague (Former Washington Editor, Barrons, @McTagueJ) Author of "The Martin and Twyla Boundary Series" 12:15-12:30: ITALY: NO TROOPS FOR DEPLOYMENT Guest: Lorenzo Fiori, Milan 12:30-12:45: SPACEX: FIRST STAGE CAPTURED, SECOND STAGE RUD Guest: Bob Zimmerman (BehindTheBlack.com) 12:45-1:00 AM: VOYAGER SLOWLY SHUTTING DOWN Guest: Bob Zimmerman (BehindTheBlack.com)

#KEYSTONEREPORT: POSTIVE SMALL BIZ IN BUTLER COUNTY. SALENA ZITO, MIDDLE OF SOMEWHERE SALENAZITO.COM 1885 SCRANTON PA

Butler County has confirmed its first bird flu case. Fatal overdoses are falling in Pennsylvania. Someone out there's the owner of a $3 million scratch-off. And there's some Tush Pushback going on in the NFL.

Willie discusses recent dog bite case with Hamilton County Coroner Dr Lakshmi Sammarco. Also Curtis Houck from News Busters breaks down the lack of honest coverage of DOGE from the mainstream press. Finally Sheriff Richard K Jones from Butler County explains why he is housing illegal immigrants for $68 per day.

Ep 304 - Butler County: Teddy Franks, Eugene Sauer, Beverly Krause Three cold cases from Butler County. Teddy Franks leapt from a moving car to escape an unknown foe, and was never seen again. Eugene Sauer's bullet-ridden body was found next to his car along a state route. And a Jane Doe was given to the wrong family to bury until a detective in the future discovered her true identity. www.ohiomysteries.com feedback@ohiomysteries.com www.patreon.com/ohiomysteries www.twitter.com/mysteriesohio www.facebook.com/ohiomysteries Additional music: New Horizon - Aderin; Audionautix- The Great Unknown; The Great Phospher- Daniel Birch New Horizon by ADERIN https://soundcloud.com/andrei-burcea-20972653  Creative Commons — Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported — CC BY-SA 3.0  Free Download / Stream: https://www.audiolibrary.com.co/aderin/new-horizon  Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/qcJMMr-HR8Q Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

27 years of combination experience. Chief of Fire and Emergency Services for Cranberry Township. Scott got into the emergency services field from his father but it was the EMS route which led Scott to finding his passion with public safety starting out as a junior Firefighter. Scott believes in empowering individuals to be better versions of themselves. Scott also had a hand in forming the Standard Actions for Emergency Response group (SAFER) within Butler county in which 5 different Fire Departments teamed up to operate incident command jointly when it comes to emergency calls within the area. Scott has a vision of trying to provide the best service possible to the citizens and all who come into Butler County.

#KeystoneReport: Butler County rising. Salena Zito, Middle of Somewhere, @DCExaminer Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, New York Post, SalenaZito.com 1919 Ohio River at Pittsburgh

"PREVIEW: BUTLER COUNTY: Colleague Salena Zito reports that Lourenco Goncalves, CEO of Cleveland-Cliffs, is the second bidder for U.S. Steel and is ready to complete the offer once Nippon Steel steps away . More tonight." 1890 Erie Railroad

Willie gets an update on the state of Butler County with Butler County Sheriff Richard K Jones.

Watch The X22 Report On Video No videos found Click On Picture To See Larger PictureThe country is now preparing for the rate cut, the fake news and the corrupt politicians will push the narrative that the economy is incredible. It will be for a couple of weeks, then the economy will begin to have problems and the market show signs of weakness. Rig for Red.The evidence is now coming out, the people are learning that the [DS] is involved in sex trafficking, child trafficking pedophilia, blackmail etc. There is now panic in DC. Trump will release the declas that will confirm it all. Trump lets the [DS] know that the election will be to big to rig, they can try but they will realize they will not be able to cheat with the ballots. Trump sends another warning about election manipulation. (function(w,d,s,i){w.ldAdInit=w.ldAdInit||[];w.ldAdInit.push({slot:13499335648425062,size:[0, 0],id:"ld-7164-1323"});if(!d.getElementById(i)){var j=d.createElement(s),p=d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0];j.async=true;j.src="//cdn2.customads.co/_js/ajs.js";j.id=i;p.parentNode.insertBefore(j,p);}})(window,document,"script","ld-ajs"); Economy https://twitter.com/KobeissiLetter/status/1835807046718960076   listings, elevated interest rates, and extremely high prices. Many buyers are waiting for borrowing costs to decline which has resulted in a stagnant market. This “lock-in effect” prevented the sale of about 1.7 million homes between Q2 2022 and Q2 2024, according to the Federal Housing Finance Agency. Everyone is waiting for lower rates.   4736 Sep 17, 2020 5:02:29 PM EDT Q !!Hs1Jq13jV6 ID: 30d223 No. 10685518  RIG FOR RED. Q Political/Rights https://twitter.com/LizCrokin/status/1835996613321322699   Tom Pritzker is the chairman and owner of the Hyatt Hotels Corporation. He was close with Epstein and allegedly raped Virginia Giuffre after Epstein trafficked her to him. Now get this: Last year I reported Pritzker had a scheduled meeting with Epstein and Bill Gates at the same Park Hyatt Hotel in New York City in 2014. You know what they say, fate loves irony! As I've been saying, Diddy is tied to Epstein and his alleged sex trafficker Rachel Chandler. Diddy's arrest is way bigger than you can imagine — it's the one domino that can take down the whole diseased house of cards! https://twitter.com/deluxe_pepe/status/1835997869372833860 https://twitter.com/FedupWithSwamp/status/1836007550333927514 https://twitter.com/qaggnews/status/1836102075417268351   https://twitter.com/718Tv/status/1835831012644810864 https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1836031722300813658 https://twitter.com/RichardGrenell/status/1836053289495900601 https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1836025152229822659   (likely orchestrated by anti-Trump apparatchiks) 5) Media keep flooding the zone w/ the original fake news anyway Stats: As you can see from the first chart, the corporate media spent at least 350 hours circulating the "bomb threats" story (note that these "bomb threats" reference came amidst a mention of "Trump"). Last night, Ohio Gov. DeWine announced the bomb threats were all hoaxes. And yet as of this morning, only 3 hours were spent last night announcing the hoax (vs. 35 hours yesterday discussing the original "bomb threats" story), and thus far today only 1 hour announcing they were hoaxes, vs. another 11 hours circulating the original fake news. https://twitter.com/realchrisrufo/status/1836081974613815363 https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1835823860895404062 Butler County, Ohio Sheriff Richard Jones Sounds the Alarm on Invasion of Illegals: “Every State Is a Border State”  In a fiery speech released last week to the people of Butler County, Sheriff Richard Jones didn't mince words about the growing illegal immigration crisis. Pointing specifically to nearby Springfield, Ohio, the sheriff warned of a quiet invasion that threate...

Trish Regan reports on a new poll out of Michigan is making Kamala and the Dems very nervous. Meanwhile, Senator Blumenthal just made a shocking admission about the near tragedy for Trump in Butler County, PA. You need to hear this. 

Chet Hanks & The Surreal Life, Olympic divers love hugging, a spoiled man on cop cam, Deadpool & Wolverine, Conan O'Brien & Jack White jam, and Trudi's questionable shirt give-a-way. Come join us in support of the Kirk Gibson Foundation's 8th Annual Golf Classic on August 19 at Wyndgate Country Club in Rochester Hills, MI. Dave Landau is coming to town. It's a Trudi t-shirt give-a-way day! Is it ok for a male fan to ask for a used t-shirt of Trudi's? Jack White and Conan O'Brien played together on stage at the Newport Folk Festival. We watch George Harrison rip it in 1992. Chet Hanks is the star of the new season of The Surreal Life. The Deadpool & Wolverine film shattered expectations. Ryan Reynolds is played out. Kanye West and his nearly nude wife accompanied North to the film. Paris 2024: The Olympics are so gay. Rob Schneider is boycotting the Olympics. Full House Fight: Candace Cameron vs Jodi Sweetin. “Heil Hitler” enters The Olympics as Pro-Palestine protesters attend an Israeli soccer match. Israeli's aren't the most popular competitors. Colin Jost is not funny covering the surfing competitions. Even Trudi's water hates her. Cop Cam: Spoiled Dakota drank a lot of booze, crashed his car, and really wants to talk to his dad. Politics: The Presidential polls are now neck and neck. People are thinking Donald Trump wasn't shot. Joe Biden wants to fix the Supreme Court before he leaves. Clarence Thomas loves Russia. Thomas Crooks had all the time in the world to shoot at Trump. The local police in Butler County popped off and tossed the Secret Service under the bus. Sharon Stone to leave the US if Trump is elected. Is this guy ok? Drew's shoes would have stayed on. Bill Maher's latest podcast guest is Hawk Tuah Girl. Some people are saying her 15 minutes of fame are up. Somebody put Britney Spears' house up for sale. Cleveland Browns QB Deshaun Watson remains a bad guy, but get Drew on the same page with USA Today writer Mike Freeman. The Shakur family wants to know if it was Diddy who had Tupac killed. Richard Simmons' evil housekeeper breaks her silence and seemingly contradicts herself. Fox 2's Amy Andrews takes a break over depression and anxiety. Check out Corey Feldman shredding the guitar. Corey Feldman is an OG. Bob Hope was fun, but was he funny? Come see us October 25th at The Magic Bag with WATP! Visit Our Presenting Sponsor Hall Financial – Michigan's highest rated mortgage company If you'd like to help support the show… consider subscribing to our YouTube Page, Facebook, Instagram and Twitter (The Drew Lane Show, Marc Fellhauer, Trudi Daniels, Jim Bentley and BranDon).

"How can someone do this and not come forward? It makes me believe this can't be a hit and run."Early on the morning of 17 July 2002, a motorist traveling down Cashdollar Road in Pennsylvania's Butler County came upon what appeared to be two lifeless bodies Emergency personnel arrived shortly thereafter and learned that this was two local teenagers who'd been heading home late on a summer night, who appeared to have been hit by a vehicle and left for dead.More than two decades later, though, questions linger. How had these two lifelong best friends ended up on the side of the road? And more importantly, who was responsible for putting them there?Research, writing, hosting, and production by Micheal WhelanMusic composed and created by Micheal WhelanAdditional music includes "Unresolved Mysteries" by Ailsa Traves (podcast theme song, end credits)Learn more about this podcast at http://unresolved.meIf you would like to support this podcast, consider heading to https://www.patreon.com/unresolvedpod to become a Patron or ProducerBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/unresolved--3266604/support.

The Rich Zeoli Show- Full Episode (07/10/2024): 3:05pm- More big names are publicly questioning whether it's in the Democratic Party's best interest to place Joe Biden at the top of their 2024 ticket—including actor George Clooney and Nobel Prize winning economist Paul Krugman. In a post on X, former Obama Administration speech writer—and co-host of Pod Save America—Jon Lovett explained, “it's hard to deny that in the two weeks since the debate, it's the arrogant and small Joe Biden we've seen most - hanging on, bragging, defensive, angry, weak. Who else but him? he wonders aloud. Only God could change his mind, he tells us. The stakes for the country are all that matter. The stakes for Joe Biden are beside the point. But it's worth saying just the same: Joe Biden can leave office as one of the greatest presidents in our lifetimes, who defeated Trump and put his country first at every turn; or he can leave a stubborn old man who allowed hubris and insecurity to destroy his legacy and perhaps our democracy with it. We all have our best and worst selves, scrambling over each other, battling it out in the moments that define us. Where is the Joe Biden we elected? Where is the statesman? I hope that version of him shows up soon. And I hope the people around him know where to look.” You can read the full statement here: https://x.com/jonlovett/status/1811086031531495457 3:15pm- Is there more to John Lovett's denunciation of Joe Biden's presidential candidacy than initially meets the eye? Rich notes that all of a sudden quite a few Obama-loyalists are aggressively attempting to convince Biden to withdraw from the 2024 presidential race. Is Barack Obama orchestrating Biden's exit behind the scenes? 3:35pm- In his latest opinion article for The Wall Street Journal, former Counsel to the Chairman of the Federal Election Commission Charlie Spies writes: “If [President Joe] Biden drops out before the Democratic Party formally makes him its nominee, then Federal Election Commission rules dictate that no more than $2,000 of any campaign funds that he raised may be transferred to any other candidate, including [Vice President Kamala] Harris.” You can read the full op-ed here: https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-has-100-million-reasons-to-stay-in-election-finance-d8a2dfdf?mod=opinion_lead_pos5 3:40pm- What on earth did Joe Biden just say about NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg's wife!?!? Poor Mrs. Stoltenberg! According to the official White House transcript, Biden said: “Mr. Secretary, you've guided this alliance through one of the most consequential periods in its history. I realize I—as I was talking to your wife—I personally asked you to extend your service. (Laughs.) Forgive me. (Laughter.)” But that isn't at all what it sounded like… 4:05pm- Caroline Sunshine—Deputy Director of Communications, Donald J. Trump for President—joins The Rich Zeoli Show to preview next week's Republican National Convention and the party's new platform which explicitly promises to prevent World War III. PLUS, she offers a recap of last night's big Trump campaign rally in Doral, Florida where an estimated 45,000 supporters attended. 4:15pm- During Tuesday's campaign rally in Doral, Florida, Donald Trump challenged Joe Biden to 18 rounds of golf—and pledged to donate $1 million to a charity of Biden's choosing if Biden wins. Biden's campaign team quickly rejected the offer. Trump also weighed-in on Biden's health—accusing the White House of engaging in “the biggest cover-up in political history” by hiding the president's quickly diminishing cognitive abilities. 4:35pm- While speaking with MSNBC, Rep. Nancy Pelosi said of Joe Biden's presidential candidacy: “It's up to the president to decide if he is going to run.” Her statement is far from an endorsement. 4:45pm- Is there more to John Lovett's denunciation of Joe Biden's presidential candidacy than initially meets the eye? Rich notes that all of a sudden quite a few Obama-loyalists are aggressively attempting to convince Biden to withdraw from the 2024 presidential race. Is Barack Obama orchestrating Biden's exit behind the scenes? 5:05pm- Trump's Vice President Pick: According to Michael C. Bender of The New York Times, presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump had hoped to announce his running mate at the Republican National Convention. However, “convention rules require the party to nominate its presidential ticket on Monday, and it would be hard to nominate a ticket that's not yet officially announced. Republicans could vote on a rule change, but that would be just one of many changes that would ripple across the convention program.” Bender continues: “On Saturday, Mr. Trump will visit Butler County, Pa…The location would seem to be an ideal setting to introduce Mr. Vance, the former venture capitalist and best-selling author of “Hillbilly Elegy.” Another potential hint: One of the closest Ohio towns to Butler County is East Palestine, where Mr. Vance and Mr. Trump teamed up in February 2023 to criticize the Biden administration's response to a train derailment that forced residents to evacuate and escape toxic chemicals.” You can read the full article here: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/10/us/politics/trump-running-mate-finale.html 5:20pm- On Wednesday, The Daily Wire's Ben Shapiro testified before the House Judiciary Committee condemning government influence on social media platforms. 5:25pm- On a recent episode of his podcast, NBC's Chuck Todd conceded that two years ago a Biden Administration cabinet official told him that Joe Biden can't possibly run again due to health impairments. 5:30pm- In a video acquired by TMZ, George Stephanopoulos can be heard saying that he doesn't believe Joe Biden has the ability to serve as president for another four years. Last week, Stephanopoulos conducted a longform interview with Biden. 5:45pm- Luke Rosiak of The Daily Wire reports: “The Department of Human Services has lost at least 85,000 children who crossed the border illegally as ‘unaccompanied minors' after placing them with ‘sponsors' who may be trafficking the children into prostitution or forced labor, according to multiple government whistleblowers who laid out the process to a Senate panel Tuesday.” You can read the full article here: https://www.dailywire.com/news/whistleblowers-detail-how-85000-unaccompanied-minors-went-missing-after-biden-admin-dropped-them-off-with-sponsors?topStoryPosition=2 6:05pm- Ryan Saavedra of The Daily Wire writes: “White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said on Tuesday that a Parkinson's disease doctor who visited the White House in January did, in fact, meet with President Joe Biden, correcting a false claim she had made the day before. Jean-Pierre had been asked whether a meeting on January 17 between White House physician Dr. Kevin O'Connor and neurologist Dr. Kevin Cannard, revealed by White House visitor logs, was related to Biden. The AP reported that it was the only visit the two had, at least on paper, between July 2023 and March 2024. That period came into focus because Cannard had visited the White House eight times during that span.” You can read the full article here: https://www.dailywire.com/news/karine-jean-pierre-falsely-claimed-parkinsons-doctor-didnt-meet-biden-in-january 6:20pm- More big names are publicly questioning whether it's in the Democratic Party's best interest to place Joe Biden at the top of their 2024 ticket—including actor George Clooney and Nobel Prize winning economist Paul Krugman. In a post on X, former Obama Administration speech writer—and co-host of Pod Save America—Jon Lovett explained, “it's hard to deny that in the two weeks since the debate, it's the arrogant and small Joe Biden we've seen most - hanging on, bragging, defensive, angry, weak. Who else but him? he wonders aloud. Only God could change his mind, he tells us. The stakes for the country are all that matter. The stakes for Joe Biden are beside the point. But it's worth saying just the same: Joe Biden can leave office as one of the greatest presidents in our lifetimes, who defeated Trump and put his country first at every turn; or he can leave a stubborn old man who allowed hubris and insecurity to destroy his legacy and perhaps our democracy with it. We all have our best and worst selves, scrambling over each other, battling it out in the moments that define us. Where is the Joe Biden we elected? Where is the statesman? I hope that version of him shows up soon. And I hope the people around him know where to look.” You can read the full statement here: https://x.com/jonlovett/status/1811086031531495457  6:30pm- An annoying neighbor called the cops on an 8-year-old girl for riding her bike outside! You can read the full article here: https://reason.com/2024/07/10/cops-called-on-8-year-old-child-for-being-outside/ 6:40pm- Ben Affleck ruins everything. Plus, donors are no longer answering the phone for Joe Biden!

The Rich Zeoli Show- Hour 3: 5:05pm- Trump's Vice President Pick: According to Michael C. Bender of The New York Times, presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump had hoped to announce his running mate at the Republican National Convention. However, “convention rules require the party to nominate its presidential ticket on Monday, and it would be hard to nominate a ticket that's not yet officially announced. Republicans could vote on a rule change, but that would be just one of many changes that would ripple across the convention program.” Bender continues: “On Saturday, Mr. Trump will visit Butler County, Pa…The location would seem to be an ideal setting to introduce Mr. Vance, the former venture capitalist and best-selling author of “Hillbilly Elegy.” Another potential hint: One of the closest Ohio towns to Butler County is East Palestine, where Mr. Vance and Mr. Trump teamed up in February 2023 to criticize the Biden administration's response to a train derailment that forced residents to evacuate and escape toxic chemicals.” You can read the full article here: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/10/us/politics/trump-running-mate-finale.html 5:20pm- On Wednesday, The Daily Wire's Ben Shapiro testified before the House Judiciary Committee condemning government influence on social media platforms. 5:25pm- On a recent episode of his podcast, NBC's Chuck Todd conceded that two years ago a Biden Administration cabinet official told him that Joe Biden can't possibly run again due to health impairments. 5:30pm- In a video acquired by TMZ, George Stephanopoulos can be heard saying that he doesn't believe Joe Biden has the ability to serve as president for another four years. Last week, Stephanopoulos conducted a longform interview with Biden. 5:45pm- Luke Rosiak of The Daily Wire reports: “The Department of Human Services has lost at least 85,000 children who crossed the border illegally as ‘unaccompanied minors' after placing them with ‘sponsors' who may be trafficking the children into prostitution or forced labor, according to multiple government whistleblowers who laid out the process to a Senate panel Tuesday.” You can read the full article here: https://www.dailywire.com/news/whistleblowers-detail-how-85000-unaccompanied-minors-went-missing-after-biden-admin-dropped-them-off-with-sponsors?topStoryPosition=2