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Guests Caleb Connolly | Pablo Correa Gómez Panelist Richard Littauer Show Notes In this episode of Sustain, host Richard Littauer is joined by guests Pablo Correa Gómez and Caleb Connolly to explore the development and sustainability of postmarketOS, an open-source Linux distribution designed to extend the life of mobile devices. The team dives into the project's mission, governance, and the community-driven nature of its work. They discuss the challenges related to funding, primarily through grants and Open Collective donations, and the significance of upstreaming Linux kernel support to collaborate with other communities like Alpine Linux. The conversation also highlights the growth of the postmarketOS community, encouraging contributions from both technical and non-technical supporters, and the importance of comprehensive documentation. Additionally, issues of privacy, telemetry, and user support are examined, alongside the steps towards making postmarketOS more professional and economically sustainable. Press download now to hear more! [00:01:30] Pablo explains postmarketOS and its mission to empower people to have full control over their devices and promote sustainability. [00:02:12] Caleb talks about the governance of postmarketOS that started with a few contributors working on a package repository on top of Alpine Linux and overtime more maintainers were added. [00:03:59] There's a discussion on the structure of the team, how the community around hardware components forms sub-communities bases on common SOCs, and the focus on improving tooling and the ecosystem rather than building a product for end users. [00:06:29] Richard discusses the massive, refurbished phone market and asks about how postmarketOS fits into this ecosystem. Caleb shares their experience working on the OnePlus 6 phone and explains the technical process of making the device work on upstream Linux and the challenges of hardware enablement. [00:10:05] Pablo explains that the project is largely funded by volunteer work and Caleb describes the challenges in deciding which devices to prioritize for hardware enablement and how all hardware work so far has been done by volunteers. [00:14:09] On the importance of upstreaming, Pablo explains that postmarketOS works hard to contribute back to the Linux ecosystem rather that maintaining device-specific patches and postmarketOS is downstream to Alpine Linux but contributes much of its work upstream to maintain sustainability. [00:20:09] Richard asks about how the project builds shared context and onboards new developers and Pablo and Caleb explain how the project relies on its wiki page to provide extensive documentation and how the pmbootstrap tool makes it easier for new contributors to get started with porting new devices to postmarketOS. [00:25:01] Richard asks about telemetry and how the team tracks their impact. [00:25:39] Pablo talks about how they receive community feedback through events like FOSDEM and have seen an increase in donations, social media engagement, and community members. [00:28:39] Caleb reflects on the pros and cons of collecting telemetry, which could help guide development but may also create unwanted challenges by focusing too heavily on specific devices. [00:31:30] What are Pablo and Caleb most excited about for the next year? Pablo is excited about professionalizing the project, starting to pay contributors, and scaling the project's growth sustainably, and Caleb jokes about looking forward to the “pre-market OS.” Quotes [00:12:00] “We are trying to grow organically, bit by bit, and be able to pay people to do core things where volunteer work doesn't reach.” [00:15:06] “In the environment we live in, where you have X amount of code per update, it is totally unsustainable.” [00:16:18] “As a distro, we predominately put together the pieces that other people give us.” [00:19:13] “Downstream patches allow to experiment, but long term are a burden. That's the same for every project.” [00:19:22] “The sustainability goes beyond reducing waste and also goes into the social ecosystem and how we maintain projects.” [00:30:33] “We know we are not ready for end users, but we need to build the structure and economic support.” Spotlight [00:32:32] Richard's spotlight is DOSBox. [00:33:03] Pablo's spotlight is FOSDEM and the FOSDEM team. [00:33:57] Caleb's spotlight is processing.org. 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What agile software development is exactly, why planning and being willing to adapt the plan are key, the pros and cons of all the process that's involved, the role that scrum plays, and why it's all about communication. Study finds 268% higher failure rates for Agile software projects Amolith will be at Fossy in... Read More
What agile software development is exactly, why planning and being willing to adapt the plan are key, the pros and cons of all the process that's involved, the role that scrum plays, and why it's all about communication. Study finds 268% higher failure rates for Agile software projects Amolith will be at Fossy in... Read More
Guest Angie Byron Panelist Richard Littauer Show Notes Hello and welcome to Sustain! Richard is in Portland at FOSSY, the Free and Open Source Software Yearly conference that is held by the Software Freedom Conservancy. In this episode, we're joined by Angie Byron, the Director of Community at Aiven, a leading open source data platform. Angie brings us insights from her role overseeing 11 open source projects, explaining how they provide managed services and security updates for several data projects, and highlighting the importance of prioritizing by impact. She also gives us a peek into their “start at the end” exercise used for goal setting and talks about the challenges of transparency and confidentiality in open source projects. Tune in now and download this episode to hear more! [00:00:39] Angie explains that Aiven is an open source data platform that provides managed services and security updates for several open source data projects such as Apache Kafka, MySQL, Postgres, Redis, and Grafana. [00:01:30] Angie shares that she's the Director of Community at Aiven and has been there for a couple of months. She talks about her role as a meta community manager, overseeing 11 open source projects with a small team. [00:02:32] There's a discussion by Angie on the importance of prioritizing by impact and empowering community members, and she explains the “start at the end” exercise she uses for setting their goals, and she explains using the Open Practice Library, which is a division of Red Hat. [00:07:17] Richard asks about the challenges of balancing transparency and confidentiality in open source projects. Angie shares that they're working on a public-facing version of a roadmap with an ideation system. [00:08:23] Angie discusses three main goals of their work: increasing revenue, reducing costs, and mitigating risk. [00:09:59] Angie explains that she internalizes achievement by helping others grow, thrive, and accomplish their goals, with her success and that of her team tied to the success of others. [00:11:24] Find out where you can learn more about Aiven's community efforts, and where you can learn more about Angie online. Links SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) SustainOSS Twitter (https://twitter.com/SustainOSS?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) SustainOSS Discourse (https://discourse.sustainoss.org/) podcast@sustainoss.org (mailto:podcast@sustainoss.org) SustainOSS Mastodon (https://mastodon.social/tags/sustainoss) Richard Littauer Twitter (https://twitter.com/richlitt?lang=en) Software Freedom Conservancy (https://sfconservancy.org/) Open OSS (https://openoss.sourceforge.net/) Angie Byron Tech Blog (https://openpracticelibrary.com/) Angie Byron Twitter (https://twitter.com/webchick) Angie Byron LinkedIn (https://ca.linkedin.com/in/webchick?original_referer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F) Angie Byron Mastodon (https://mastodon.social/@webchick) Aiven (https://aiven.io/) Open Practice Library (https://openpracticelibrary.com/) Credits Produced by Richard Littauer (https://www.burntfen.com/) Edited by Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Show notes by DeAnn Bahr Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Special Guest: Angie Byron.
Guest Joseph Castle Panelist Richard Littauer Show Notes In this episode, Richard welcomes Joe Castle, Executive Advisor for Strategic Partnerships and Technology at SAS, and he was previously featured on an episode in the FOSSY 2023 series podcasts. Today, they engage in conversations about various aspects of open source and Code.gov, exploring its history, budget changes, and challenges. Joe provides an overview of SAS Institute, its role in analytics and AI software, and its presence in the federal government. The discussion dives into the federal source code policy, its key aspects, and the allocation of the federal IT budget. They explore the idea of making government source code open source and the challenges associated with it, and there's a discussion on the importance of supporting open source projects and various initiatives in different countries and labs. Press download now to hear more! [00:01:23] Joe gives us an overview of SAS Institute, its focus on analytics and AI software, and its presence in the federal government and other sectors. [00:02:08] Joe talks about his background and how he became an advocate for open source software, especially Python, in both personal and professional context. He discusses his role at SAS, which involves promoting open source integration and education. [00:06:41] We learn about the history of Code.gov, which was born out of the U.S. federal source policy in 2016, and then Joe explains the three key aspects of the federal source code policy: creating a source code policy, updating acquisition language, and publishing an inventory of source code, including at least 20% as open source software. [00:10:03] Richard mentions the size of the federal IT budget and asks about the allocation of the remaining 93% of the budget. Joe explains that the 93% of the budget goes towards labor, infrastructure, commodity IT, and various IT-related expenses. [00:14:31] Richard inquires about the availability of a manifest listing all open source packages on Code.gov, and Joseph explains that Code.gov provides agency inventories of their source code, and each agency can decide what to include or exclude from the list based on various factors, including security. [00:16:31] Joe discusses his involvement with Code.gov, which started when he worked at the White House and volunteered to help implement the federal source code policy. [00:19:21] Richard asks about the budget for Code.gov and its changes over the years and Joe clarifies that Code.gov had a budget of about a million dollars a year for platform, staff, and related expenses. [00:20:09] Joe discusses the rise and fall of Code.gov, including policy changes and a decrease in funding, resulting in downsizing and limited maintenance of the website and code. [00:22:30] The role of the CIO at OMB is brought up and Joe explains that the focus of the federal CIO can shift with changing priorities and administrations. [00:23:23] Richard asks about how to reinvigorate Code.gov and whether it's possible to influence the CIO to prioritize it. Joe mentions an interaction with a Senate committee staffer and suggests that getting attention from key decision-makers is essential for pushing such initiatives. [00:27:34] Richard wonders if there are any internal efforts to track multiple contracts for the same vendors and improve code management. Joe tells us he's not aware of specific internal efforts but mentions the existence of similar projects in other places. [00:31:47] Joe notes that there weren't discussions about financially supporting open source projects at Code.gov, and the focus was on making the code available to the public and raising awareness of its existence. [00:32:52] Richard discusses the importance of supporting open source projects used by the government and mentions governmental efforts like the Sovereign Tech Fund in Germany. Joe talks about how certain agencies and labs, such as NASA and the Department of Energy, fund open source projects. He also mentions that he once considered making Code.gov an open source project separate from the government but didn't proceed with the idea, and he mentions the GitHub Government website. [00:37:06] Find out where you can follow Joe on the internet. Quotes [00:07:06] “Code.gov was born out of the U.S. Federal source code policy.” [00:18:37] “It's basically holistically the OSPO for the U.S. federal government.” Spotlight [00:37:45] Richard's spotlight is a book series he read called, Bloody Jack by L.A. Meyer. [00:38:27] Joe's spotlight is some great books he read: The Work by Wes Moore, Still Standing by Larry Hogan, and Bridgebuilders by William D. Eggers and Donald F. Kettl. 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Meyer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Jack_(novel)) The Work: Searching for a Life That Matters by Wes Moore (https://www.amazon.com/Work-Searching-Life-That-Matters/dp/081298384X) [Still Standing: Surviving Cancer, Riots, a Global Pandemic, and the Toxic Politics That Divide America by Larry Hogan](https://www.amazon.com/Still-Standing-Surviving-Pandemic-Politics/dp/B08CFVK3VK/ref=sr11?) Bridgebuilders: How Government Can Transcend Boundaries to Solve Big Problems by William D. Eggers and Donald F. Kettl (https://www.amazon.com/Bridgebuilders-Government-Transcend-Boundaries-Problems-ebook/dp/B0B5Y8XZKR) Credits Produced by Richard Littauer (https://www.burntfen.com/) Edited by Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Show notes by DeAnn Bahr Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Special Guest: Joseph Castle, PhD.
Guest Kyle Wiens Panelist Richard Littaueropen-source Show Notes Hello and welcome to Sustain! Richard is in Portland at FOSSY, the Free and Open Source Software Yearly conference that is held by the Software Freedom Conservancy. In this exciting episode, Richard welcomes Kyle Wiens, the driving force behind iFixit, a large open source collection of user-generated repair manuals. Born out of a response to Apple's stringent copyright regime on their service manuals, iFixit has grown into the most extensive collection of medical service manuals for hospitals. Kyle shares his journey from combating copyright laws to working on right to repair laws for everyday devices like tractors. From discussing locks on toasters to exploring the use of Linux and WINE on John Deere tractors, Kyle offers an insightful glimpse into the world of repair, open source contributions, and the potential futures of hardware. Press download now to hear more cool stuff! [00:00:46] Kyle explains that iFixit is a large open source collection of repair manuals. The manuals are created by the users, not sources from other companies, and they are the largest collection of medical service manuals for hospitals, from ventilators to vital sign monitors since the COVID-19 pandemic. [00:02:08] Kyle explains that iFixit is a for-profit company that sells parts and tools. He also mentions his friendship with Scotty Allen from Strange Parts. [00:03:08] Richard brings up the topic of legal implications surrounding iFixit and Kyle explains that while they do receive takedown notices, they've never been sued. He discusses how they deal with these notices, providing a detailed analysis of fair use. [00:05:27] Richard asks about LEGO building guides on iFixit, to which Kyle mentions a separate website dedicated to it. [00:06:04] We hear about the “Right to Repair” laws they are advocating for in various states. Kyle discusses the success of passing four bills in three states, focusing on electric wheelchairs and tractors, a consumer electronics bill passes in New York, and a law passed in Minnesota. [00:09:00] Kyle tells us his perspective about the intersection between right to repair and open source. [00:11:07] Richard asks Kyle if he collaborates with groups like Software Freedom Conservancy to circumvent these protections, and he confirms and gives an example of their work with “Right to Repair” laws for tractors. [00:12:46] What's exciting for Kyle about this conference? Kyle expresses optimism about the conference and the potential of transferring the momentum from the right to repair movement to the open source world. [00:13:33] Kyle suggests that open source contributors can help by assigning their copyrights to the Conservancy, aiming to get GPL software into as much physical hardware as possible. [00:14:46] You can go to iFixit.com for guidance on fixing their devices and find out where you can follow Kyle online. Links SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) SustainOSS Twitter (https://twitter.com/SustainOSS?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) SustainOSS Discourse (https://discourse.sustainoss.org/) podcast@sustainoss.org (mailto:podcast@sustainoss.org) Open Collective-SustainOSS Contribute (https://opencollective.com/sustainoss) SustainOSS Mastodon (https://mastodon.social/tags/sustainoss) Richard Littauer Twitter (https://twitter.com/richlitt?lang=en) Software Freedom Conservancy (https://sfconservancy.org/) Open OSS (https://openoss.sourceforge.net/) Kyle Wiens Website (https://kylewiens.com/) Kyle Wiens Twitter (https://twitter.com/kwiens?lang=en) Kyle Wiens LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/kylewiens?original_referer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F) iFixit (https://www.ifixit.com/) Strange Parts (https://www.strangeparts.com/author/scotty/) The Repair Association (https://www.repair.org/) The End of Ownership: Why You Need to Fight America's Copyright Laws by Kyle Wiens (Wired) (https://www.wired.com/2014/01/174071/) Credits Produced by Richard Littauer (https://www.burntfen.com/) Edited by Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Show notes by DeAnn Bahr Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Special Guest: Kyle Wiens.
Guest Emily Omier Panelist Richard Littauer Show Notes Hello and welcome to Sustain! Richard is in Portland at FOSSY, the Free and Open Source Software Yearly conference that is held by the Software Freedom Conservancy. Today, we chat with Emily Omier, a revenue strategy and positioning consultant who helps open source startups accelerate revenue and community growth. Based in Paris, Emily lends her expertise to primarily European startups, helping them navigate their unique challenges and carve out a profitable strategy. We discuss her approach, which connects perfectly with her marketing background with company and product alignment in the open source space. We also touch on the critical role open source workers play in business profitability. Press download now to hear more! [00:00:47] Emily explains her role as a consultant who works with open source businesses to help them clarify their commercial strategy and positioning. [00:01:24] Emily reveals that she's originally from Portland but currently resides in Paris. She serves both the European and American market and shares why she finds the European ecosystem more interesting. [00:03:00] Richard inquires about Emily's approach to improving profit margins for European startups through open source strategy. Emily explains that her clients are typically companies that have already decided to be open. [00:05:56] Emily tells us that her ideal clients are relatively small startups that have some revenue and a commercial offering. [00:07:21] The topic of marketing comes up and Emily explains that although her background is in marketing, her current role involves various parts of a company, not just marketing. She discusses the importance of knowing the company's identity, understanding the target user for the opens source project, and aligning product development with the company's story. [00:10:06] We find out that Emily works mainly with founders and has never worked directly with a community or an Open Source Program Office (OSPO). She emphasizes the importance of open source workers in big businesses being able to articulate how their work in open source contributes to the company's bottom line. [00:11:45] How did Emily get into this field if she hasn't worked with open source communities? She goes in depth how she was working in marketing with Kubernetes companies in the cloud native sphere, where she found a significant overlap with open source communities. [00:13:43] Find out where you can learn more about Emily online. Links SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) SustainOSS Twitter (https://twitter.com/SustainOSS?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) SustainOSS Discourse (https://discourse.sustainoss.org/) podcast@sustainoss.org (mailto:podcast@sustainoss.org) SustainOSS Mastodon (https://mastodon.social/tags/sustainoss) Richard Littauer Twitter (https://twitter.com/richlitt?lang=en) Software Freedom Conservancy (https://sfconservancy.org/) Open OSS (https://openoss.sourceforge.net/) Emily Omier Website (https://www.emilyomier.com/) The Business of Open Source Podcast (https://www.emilyomier.com/podcast) Emily Omier Twitter (https://twitter.com/EmilyOmier?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) Emily Omier LinkedIn (https://fr.linkedin.com/in/emilyomier?challengeId=AQHJRrJupUzrmAAAAYmn4QujXz32UfFYYdOJu6Cwe8np9YMXmh2KyyQTSopAxSC0DOoo2UQR1RVR5_3WnrQ5dUEB_ACLVd1nlQ&submissionId=8fe02694-e1b5-7617-5a1c-ad714a549b7f&challengeSource=AgGQwK0uUAAOQQAAAYmn4UKDUfqqgKKeE4IgYfXz2zitfD0NjjWc4ZlBEVCHufA&challegeType=AgEU8E9XcIwLhQAAAYmn4UKGTco4NnuMpQ_7KshxTbqlpYZsv3Mqpe0&memberId=AgE1fNY20cuH2AAAAYmn4UKJNK_nVe-y3Y6S8Exd8XMDdOg&recognizeDevice=AgHGFy9fem4K2AAAAYmn4UKMAGkvgKlal2Kdg8CJ9dDoydDseQXZ) The New Stack-Entrepreneurship for Engineers (https://thenewstack.io/author/emily-omier/) Credits Produced by Richard Littauer (https://www.burntfen.com/) Edited by Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Show notes by DeAnn Bahr Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Special Guest: Emily Omier.
Guest Karen Sandler Panelist Richard Littauer Show Notes Hello and welcome to Sustain! Richard is in Portland at FOSSY, the Free and Open Source Software Yearly conference that is held by the Software Freedom Conservancy. In this episode, Richard is joined by Karen Sandler, Executive Director at Software Freedom Conservancy. Today, they discuss the various aspects of organizing a conference, emphasizing ethical considerations, precautions taken, software freedom, community involvement, GNOME pronunciation, and highlight community contributions and the balance between using open source and proprietary software. They explore topics like DRM, exemptions, coordination on renewals, the challenge of “trafficking provision,” and the global influence of U.S. law. Hit download now to hear more! [00:00:35] Karen discusses the challenges of organizing the conference but praises her staff. [00:01:18] Richard and Karen discuss conference inspiration, focus on software freedom, and avoiding corporate noise. There's an overview of talks and speakers, and a discussion on the correct pronunciation of “GNOME.” [00:03:46] Karen mentions attending the keynote session, Red Hat Enterprise Linux, and reflects on the complexity of organizing with ethical considerations. [00:04:22] Richard asks Karen if there's any controversies she's had to weather at the conference, and she talks about COVID precautions, collaboration with charities, ethical practices in organizing, and how high school students have contributed to the event's success. [00:06:53] Richard questions Karen about the balance between using open source and proprietary software for practicality. Karen emphasizes the need for thoughtful decisions about using proprietary software, reflecting on the realistic choices to ensure software freedom. [00:09:14] Karen mentions having a nice coffee chat session with Kyle Wiens, and working together on 1201 materials, referring to the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA). She further discusses about how the 1201 provision affects people. [00:11:27] The conversation takes a shift to discussing the trafficking term. They begin discussing potential legislation and the frustrations around applying for limited exemptions. [00:12:28] Richard questions why they focus so much on U.S. law instead of working in a country without restrictive laws. Karen explains the global impact of the U.S. law and how other countries often follow suit. [00:14:15] They discuss the lobbying impact of big companies and how they can influence laws even in small countries. Also, Karen shares being grateful for the ability to criticize and work within the system, the idea of working in another place, and the need for a global movement. [00:15:25] Find out where you can learn more about Software Freedom Conservancy and Karen. Links SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) SustainOSS Twitter (https://twitter.com/SustainOSS?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) SustainOSS Discourse (https://discourse.sustainoss.org/) podcast@sustainoss.org (mailto:podcast@sustainoss.org) SustainOSS Mastodon (https://mastodon.social/tags/sustainoss) Open Collective-SustainOSS (Contribute) (https://opencollective.com/sustainoss) Richard Littauer Twitter (https://twitter.com/richlitt?lang=en) Karen Sandler Twitter (https://twitter.com/o0karen0o?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) Software Freedom Conservancy (https://sfconservancy.org/) Open OSS (https://openoss.sourceforge.net/) GNOME (https://www.gnome.org/) Digital Millennium Copyright Act (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Millennium_Copyright_Act) Credits Produced by Richard Littauer (https://www.burntfen.com/) Edited by Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Show notes by DeAnn Bahr Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Special Guest: Karen Sandler.
Guest Richard Littauer Panelist Karen Sandler Show Notes Hello and welcome to Sustain! In this episode, the tables are turned today as Karen Sandler takes over as host, interviewing our very own Richard Littauer. Recorded at the Free and Open Source Yearly conference, the discussion delves into Richard's evolving perspective on sustainability in open source projects. His experiences attending multiple conferences have led him to question the term ‘sustainability,' advocating instead for a shift towards values such as human rights, joy, and mitigating harm. Also, Richard and Karen explore the significance of user rights, copyleft licensing, and GPL, voicing concerns over the erosion of these rights. They end with a discussion on the systemic complexities in the open source world, the potential for a new community approach to sustainable code, and an emphasis on collective action and personal joy. Press download to hear more cool stuff! [00:00:58] Richard offers a detailed insight into his talk. He explains his perspective on sustainability, suggesting it may not be the most fitting term when applied to the open source community. He shares his experience attending multiple sustain conferences and how it shaped his views, and discusses sustainability for developers, touching upon burnout, recognition, and issues of dependency, supply chain, security, and legal issues. [00:03:31] He notes the wide range of topics covered in the Sustain podcasts, highlighting the complexity of sustainability. He questions the usefulness of the term ‘sustainability' and suggests we need to focus on what truly matters in life, such as human rights, mitigating harm, and seeking joy. [00:04:39] Karen reviews the flow of Richard's talk, and he summarizes his talk questioning the emphasis on sustainability and growth, recommending instead to focus on joy and relieving suffering. [00:05:55] Richard advocates for focusing on personal fulfillment and societal impact instead of simply growth and funding. He emphasizes that the ultimate goal should be about human rights, liberties, and happiness. [00:07:20] Karen wonders if Richard is going to rename the podcast. He maintains his support for open source but stresses the importance of focusing on impact and human values. He emphasizes the importance of considering one's own project in the larger context and evaluating its actual importance. [00:08:47] Richard discusses the importance of GPL for user protections and shares concerns about devices locking users out, he shares his changing stance towards GPL and the impact of his code. [00:09:36] Karen and Richard discuss the potential for a new community approach to sustainable code, and Richard suggests that sharing stories and rethinking relationships with technology is a way forward. [00:10:46] Karen asks Richard about his views on corporate power, and he explains how his view has evolved. [00:12:04] They discuss the systematic problems and individual roles within them. Richard explores the conundrum of trying to change a system from the inside or outside, and he prefers to use his knowledge and privilege to make an impact rather than disengage from the system. [00:13:41] Thinking back to all the conversations Richard's had about the sustain movement, he shares his favorite conversation with Dominic Tarr, who left coding to pursue personal joy. Karen emphasizes the need for collective action to address systemic problems. [00:16:01] Find out where you can follow Richard and his projects online. Links SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) SustainOSS Twitter (https://twitter.com/SustainOSS?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) SustainOSS Discourse (https://discourse.sustainoss.org/) podcast@sustainoss.org (mailto:podcast@sustainoss.org) SustainOSS Mastodon (https://mastodon.social/tags/sustainoss) Open Collective-SustainOSS (Contribute) (https://opencollective.com/sustainoss) Richard Littauer Twitter (https://twitter.com/richlitt?lang=en) Richard Littauer Website (https://www.burntfen.com/2023-05-30/socials) Software Freedom Conservancy (https://sfconservancy.org/) Open OSS (https://openoss.sourceforge.net/) Dominic Tarr (YouTube) (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMSmy7qF24q4f_y6L86zNMA) Sustain Podcast-Episode 56: Dominic Tarr on Coding What You Want, Living On a Boat, and the Early Days of Node.js (https://podcast.sustainoss.org/guests/dominic) Credits Produced by Richard Littauer (https://www.burntfen.com/) Edited by Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Show notes by DeAnn Bahr Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Special Guest: Richard Littauer.
Guest Adam Monsen Panelist Richard Littauer Show Notes Hello and welcome to Sustain! Richard is in Portland at FOSSY, the Free and Open Source Software Yearly conference that is held by the Software Freedom Conservancy. In today's episode, Richard is joined by Adam Monsen, co-founder of the open source conference, SeaGL, and author of the soon-to-be-published book, Steadfast Self-Hosting: Rapid-Rise Personal Cloud, which aims to guide individuals and groups towards personal data control, an important step towards autonomy, agency, and freedom. The discussion highlights the value of self-hosting data, its potential applications, and the benefits it can bring to small and mid-sized businesses. Adam shares that his book is free and open for remixing and reprinting, and it will not only be a guide but also serve as a starting point for tech authors. Hit download now to hear more! [00:01:36] Adam talks about his book which aims to guide people on how to maintain control over their personal data. [00:02:33] The conversation moves towards the difficulties faced while extracting personal data from large tech companies, and Adam suggests the use of open source servers and software like Nextcloud to migrate data. [00:03:31] Adam mentions that the first step towards data sovereignty could be purchasing his book, which provides guidance on setting up personal servers and services. [00:06:11] Why did Adam write this book? He explains why and shares his experience with self-hosting data for his family and emphasizes that doing this for a group can be empowering and meaningful. [00:07:27] Richard brings up the shift from cloud to self-hosting by Basecamp and he wonders if Adam thought about pitching any of his book towards businesses to host their own data. [00:09:53] Richard mentions a group in the UK working to create a standard for APIs to allow users to extract their data from big tech companies and maintain ownership. [00:11:11] Adam affirms his willingness to contribute and underscores the value of individual data ownership, using healthcare records as an example of a system that could greatly benefit from more seamless data sharing. [00:12:12] Richard brings up the topic of digital sovereignty, and Adam tells us his view that data sovereignty should be more about serving individuals and small groups, transcending politics, and should be capable of crossing borders. [00:13:52] Adam tells us where you can find his book online and he reveals that the book will serve as a starting point for tech authors who are stuck or uncertain about where you begin. Also, the book build system itself will be free and open source. Links SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) SustainOSS Twitter (https://twitter.com/SustainOSS?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) SustainOSS Discourse (https://discourse.sustainoss.org/) podcast@sustainoss.org (mailto:podcast@sustainoss.org) SustainOSS Mastodon (https://mastodon.social/tags/sustainoss) Richard Littauer Twitter (https://twitter.com/richlitt?lang=en) Software Freedom Conservancy (https://sfconservancy.org/) Open OSS (https://openoss.sourceforge.net/) Adam Monsen LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/amonsen) Adam Monsen Website (https://adammonsen.com/) Steadfast Self-Hosting: Rapid-Rise Personal Cloud (https://selfhostbook.com/) SeaGL (http://seagl.org/) Sustain Podcast-Episode 75: Deb Nicholson on the OSI, the future of open source, and SeaGL (https://podcast.sustainoss.org/guests/debofthenorth) Nextcloud (https://nextcloud.com/) Credits Produced by Richard Littauer (https://www.burntfen.com/) Edited by Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Show notes by DeAnn Bahr Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Special Guest: Adam Monsen.
Guest Josh Simmons Panelist Richard Littauer Show Notes Hello and welcome to Sustain! Richard is in Portland at FOSSY, the Free and Open Source Software Yearly conference that is held by the Software Freedom Conservancy. In this exciting episode, we welcome guest Josh Simmons, a notable figure with an illustrious career in the open source community. We hear about Josh's important contributions, particularly his involvement with OSCON as a community manager and now, a co-organizer and program chair of the community track. Josh also outlines his talk on health and safety policies in the diversity, equity, and inclusion track, focusing on minimizing risks and promoting inclusivity at events. Josh also introduces his exciting new venture, Open Chapters, a consultancy designed to support and elevate open source projects, community organizers, and institutions. If you're curious about the dynamics and challenges of open source communities, this episode is a must listen! Hit download now! [00:00:41] Josh talks about his involvement in OSCON as a community manager and how he's now involved in the community track, as a co-organizer and program chair and mentions his fellow organizers. He also mentions his upcoming talk on health and safety policies in the diversity, equity, and inclusion track. [00:02:14] Richard shares his experience of traveling and getting COVID twice, and asks Josh provides an overview of health and safety practices. [00:05:05] Josh shares about his newly launched consultancy with Julia Ferraioli called Open Chapters, which focuses on social and technical systems in open source projects. [00:06:00] He explains his ideal clients for their consultancy for profit or non-profit organizations looking to benefit from or contribute to open source and free software. [00:07:03] Josh discusses the “community manager trap” and how they plan to avoid it by providing coaching, strategy, and educational materials to mentor new community managers into those roles. [00:07:50] Josh acknowledges the resource disparities in open source and his hopes to level the playing field. [00:10:40] Richard presents a devil's advocate stance, challenging the approach of trying to help maintainers and suggesting that they should be encouraged to set boundaries instead. Josh agrees with Richard's stance and highlights the importance of maintainers and suggesting that they should be encouraged to set boundaries instead. [00:12:47] Find out where you can follow Josh, Open Chapters, and his health and safety policy work online. Links Sustain OSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Sustain OSS Twitter (https://twitter.com/SustainOSS?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) Sustain OSS Discourse (https://discourse.sustainoss.org/) podcast@sustainoss.org (mailto:podcast@sustainoss.org) Sustain OSS Mastodon (https://mastodon.social/tags/sustainoss) Richard Littauer Twitter (https://twitter.com/richlitt?lang=en) Software Freedom Conservancy (https://sfconservancy.org/) Open OSS (https://openoss.sourceforge.net/) Josh Simmons Website (https://joshsimmons.com/) Josh Simmons Mastodon (https://josh.tel/@josh) Josh Simmons LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshsimmons) Open Chapters (https://openchapters.tech/) The Public Health Pledge (https://publichealthpledge.com/) Credits Produced by Richard Littauer (https://www.burntfen.com/) Edited by Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Show notes by DeAnn Bahr Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Special Guest: Josh Simmons.
Guest Stuart Geiger Panelist Richard Littauer Show Notes Hello and welcome to Sustain! Richard is in Portland at FOSSY, the Free and Open Source Software Yearly conference that is held by the Software Freedom Conservancy. In today's episode, we're joined by Stuart Geiger, and Assistant Professor at University of California, San Diego. Stuart shares his unique expertise on “invisible work” in the open source communities, discussing his research funded by the Digital Infrastructure Fund and emphasizing the importance of documenting and valuing such efforts. The conversation delves into the gendered aspects of invisible work, the intersection between capitalism and open source work, and the emotional impact of burnout in emotionally demanding and undervalued roles. Richard and Stuart also explore the motivations of open source practitioners, potential links between religious backgrounds and open source evangelism, and the intriguing implications of large language model AI in the open source world. Hit download now to hear more! [00:00:32] Stuart tells us his focus area and explains that he also studies a range of decentralized, volunteer-based, peer production communities. [00:00:57] Stuart was one of the first recipients of funding from the Digital Infrastructure Fund, aimed at researching the unseen aspects of open source software. [00:01:31] What does Stuart mean by “invisible work?” In open source projects they are things that aren't tracked on public code repositories. He shares that they have conducted over 50 interviews to learn more about the “invisible work”, and discusses the importance of documenting “invisible work.” [00:04:56] Richard and Stuart discuss the need for environmentally friendly alternatives to in-person meetings or conferences. Stuart suggests using tools like Open Collective to and the All Contributors project. [00:05:57] Richard asks if there are parallels between invisible work in open source and societal invisible work, particularly regarding women. Stuart affirms this and mentions that some of this labor can be gendered, especially work marked as more social. Richard and Stuart brainstorm a slogan to describe the transition from non-contributors to contributors in open source projects, so if you have any suggestions send an email. [00:08:48] The topic about the intersection between capitalism and open source work is brought up, and Stuart discusses burnout, explaining that if often occurs in professions that are emotionally demanding and undervalued. [00:11:29] Richard asks Stuart if open source practitioners see it as a calling. Stuart explains that some do while others are motivated by business necessity. [00:12:57] A question arises around the potential religious backgrounds of open source evangelists, and Stuart shares he has not specifically investigated this connection, though he has observed comparisons with political activism. [00:14:22] What is Stuart working on right now? He mentions exploring the implications of large language model AI in the open source world. [00:16:32] Find out where you can follow Stuart and his work online. Links SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) SustainOSS Twitter (https://twitter.com/SustainOSS?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) SustainOSS Discourse (https://discourse.sustainoss.org/) podcast@sustainoss.org (mailto:podcast@sustainoss.org) SustainOSS Mastodon (https://mastodon.social/tags/sustainoss) Richard Littauer Twitter (https://twitter.com/richlitt?lang=en) Software Freedom Conservancy (https://sfconservancy.org/) Open OSS (https://openoss.sourceforge.net/) All Contributors (https://allcontributors.org/) Stuart Geiger Website (https://stuartgeiger.com/) Stuart Geiger Google Scholar (https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=0AvWi3wAAAAJ&hl=en) Credits Produced by Richard Littauer (https://www.burntfen.com/) Edited by Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Show notes by DeAnn Bahr Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Special Guest: Stuart Geiger.
Guest Aaron Wolf Panelist Richard Littauer Show Notes Hello and welcome to Sustain! Richard is in Portland at FOSSY, the Free and Open Source Software Yearly conference that is held by the Software Freedom Conservancy. Join us on a captivating journey with guest Aaron Wolf, the co-founder of Snowdrift.coop, as he unravels the story behind the innovative crowdfunding platform for open source projects. From his initial resistance to founding something, through his eye-opening Linux experience and a friend's prompt to solve a pressing problem, Aaron details how he ended up creating Snowdrift.coop. Learn about the platform's unique funding model, the early challenges and progress made over a decade, and its exciting recent developments. Despite not being a programmer, but a music teacher, Aaron finds parallels between his profession and the open source world, while he passionately advocates for the open source process in other industries. Discover the ups and downs faced by Snowdrift, the challenges of running a campaign, its current standing as a debt-free entity with a dedicated team, and a recent major milestone is revealed. Download this episode now! [00:00:29] Aaron tells us about himself and being a co-founder, and how his friend encouraged him to act on a problem he was complaining about which is the lack of funding for public goods. He was frustrated with certain software limitations and desired improvements, which led to his idea for Snowdrift. [00:03:38] How does Snowdrift work? Patrons pledge to donate more to a project when others join the crowd that gives together, a method they call 'crowdmatching'. Aaron expresses his reluctance to start something like Snowdrift due to the complexities involved, but his friend convinced him to give it a shot. [00:04:47] Aaron talks about the challenges faced and progress made over the past 10 ten years, and the importance of early adopters. He also tells us he's not a programmer but a music teacher and discusses the similarities he sees between open source software and the process of creating music. [00:06:26] He talks about his frustration with the copyright system and how it hampers creativity, discusses his belief in the need for an open source process in other industries, like music education, and discusses the obstacles encountered when trying to use open source software and run Snowdrift as a co-op. He shares the Snowdrift gained early attention and interest but struggled to secure funding. [00:09:30] Aaron shares that despite difficulties, Snowdrift is debt-free, has a small, dedicated team, and 156 patrons with real money. [00:11:52] Richard and Aaron discuss the difficulties of applying for and giving grants. Aaron mentions they have not focused much on this aspect as it requires a lot of time and expresses that their work is still relevant and needed as it was 10 years ago. He also reveals a recent major milestone. [00:13:55] Aaron mentions their early effort in reviewing around 760 crowdfunding sites to understand the landscape. They found many people working on similar projects but not collaborating, leading to many of these projects disappearing after a few months. [00:15:31] Aaron highlights Open Collective as the closest to their own project, and mentions the benefits of Open Collective, including their legal foundation and handling of money, which Snowdrift has struggled with. [00:17:37] We hear about Aaron's talk on the nature of public goods and why coordination is necessary for their type of solution. [00:18:02] Find out where you can follow Aaron online. Links SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) SustainOSS Twitter (https://twitter.com/SustainOSS?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) SustainOSS Discourse (https://discourse.sustainoss.org/) podcast@sustainoss.org (mailto:podcast@sustainoss.org) SustainOSS Mastodon (https://mastodon.social/tags/sustainoss) Richard Littauer Twitter (https://twitter.com/richlitt?lang=en) Software Freedom Conservancy (https://sfconservancy.org/) Open OSS (https://openoss.sourceforge.net/) Aaron Wolf social.coop Mastodon (https://social.coop/@wolftune) Aaron Wolf LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/wolftune/) Aaron Wolf Website (https://blog.wolftune.com/) Snowdrift.coop (https://snowdrift.coop/) Credits Produced by Richard Littauer (https://www.burntfen.com/) Edited by Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Show notes by DeAnn Bahr Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Special Guest: Aaron Wolf.
Guest Joe Castle Panelist Richard Littauer Show Notes Hello and welcome to Sustain! Richard is in Portland at FOSSY, the Free and Open Source Software Yearly conference that is held by the Software Freedom Conservancy. Today, Richard speaks with Joe Castle from SAS, a global analytics and AI company, about the fascinating world of open source software. Joe, who supports the federal team at SAS, shares the company's journey from its roots as a statistical software company in the 1970s to its current role as an AI leader. We'll dive into SAS's integral involvement with open source software, how it supports and contributes to the community, and its ambitious plans for future engagement. Explore Joe's unique insights into the motivations and sustainability of corporate open source efforts and discover how SAS balances financial incentive with authentic community engagement. Tune in for an exciting conversation about SAS's shift towards greater open source integration and its commitment to building superior products, and ongoing discussions about making Python packages a first-class citizen in SAS. Hit download now! [00:00:30] Joe explains his role at SAS, explaining how he supports the federal team at SAS and how it involves business development with government executives and advocating for and developing open source software. [00:00:54] What does SAS do? Joe describes it as an analytics and AI company, and SAS clients are not just federal governments but also span industries such as banking, insurance, and more across the globe. [00:01:51] Joe discusses how SAS uses and supports open source. Their product suite allows integration with Python, R, Lua, and JavaScript. [00:03:33] Richard asks Joe to explain where SAS fits on the spectrum of corporate influence on open source. Joe tells us that SAS is involved in all aspects of open source usage, development, and contribution. [00:05:36] Joe talks about SAS's evolution from being a statistical software company to an AI company and how open source figures in their AI offerings. Developers can use Python to develop AI models using SAS's packages and run it through their large compute engines. [00:07:09] Joe explains his talk about the architecture of the CAS (Cloud Analytic Service), which is a Python package that allows for the sequential processing of large datasets. [00:07:57] On the question of open source vs closed source, Joe says it depends on the context. While SAS has proprietary algorithms for model processing, developers can use their own python code to interact with these models. [00:08:30] SAS's primary audience includes data scientists, developers, and data engineers who have an understanding of Python and R. [00:13:46] Richard inquires about the experiences of SAS in the realm of open source. Joe tells us they're competitive motivations and they want to help users and capture a wider audience by signaling that they are open source friendly. He brings up the financial incentive for companies to engage with open source. [00:15:27] Joe provides an example of a large financial customer who's using their software for significant data processing and analysis. [00:16:21] What's Joe most excited to open source? He admits that some proprietary elements will remain closed due to business reasons. However, he mentions that there are ongoing discussions about making Python packages a first-class citizen. [00:19:06] Find out you can follow Joe and SAS developer stuff online. Links SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) SustainOSS Twitter (https://twitter.com/SustainOSS?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) SustainOSS Discourse (https://discourse.sustainoss.org/) podcast@sustainoss.org (mailto:podcast@sustainoss.org) SustainOSS Mastodon (https://mastodon.social/tags/sustainoss) Richard Littauer Twitter (https://twitter.com/richlitt?lang=en) Software Freedom Conservancy (https://sfconservancy.org/) Open OSS (https://openoss.sourceforge.net/) Joseph Castle Twitter (https://twitter.com/jrcastle_vt) Joseph Castle, PhD LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/jrcastle/) SAS (https://www.sas.com/en_us/home.html) SAS Developer Home (https://developer.sas.com/home.html) Python SWAT Library (https://developer.sas.com/guides/python-swat.html) SAS Explore (https://explore.sas.com/event/33f11b50-88c8-4525-ad70-86a5b527d441/websitePage:3169d95a-1f77-45e2-93fd-968feb1a813e?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=events-us-non-non-americas&utm_content=PLN_14503&dclid=&gclid=Cj0KCQjw5f2lBhCkARIsAHeTvljmteuPr6RqTDiqjKKQzR0uPyKW0M8P_aPQv0NzawePK2tmPlN5VAIaAmY_EALw_wcB) Credits Produced by Richard Littauer (https://www.burntfen.com/) Edited by Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Show notes by DeAnn Bahr Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Special Guest: Joseph Castle, PhD.
Guest Vagrant Cascadian Panelist Richard Littauer Show Notes Hello and welcome to Sustain! Richard is in Portland at FOSSY, the Free and Open Source Software Yearly conference that is held by the Software Freedom Conservancy. In this episode, Richard invites guest Vagrant Cascadian to delve into the world of Reproducible Builds. Vagrant walks us through his role in the project where the aim is to ensure identical results in software builds across various machines and times, enhancing software security and creating a seamless developer experience. Discover how this mission, supported by the Software Freedom Conservancy and a broad community, is changing the face of Linux distros, Arch Linux, openSUSE, and F-Droid. They also explore the challenges of managing random elements in software, and Vagrant's vision to make reproducible builds a standard best practice that will ideally become automatic for users. Vagrant shares his work in progress and their commitment to the “last mile problem.” Hit download now to hear more! [00:00:47] Vagrant talks about their work at Reproducible Builds and details their responsibilities, including removing timestamps from Debian packages to enable reproducibility and maintaining infrastructure on ARM-based machines. [00:02:25] Why do reproducible builds matter? Well, they allow verification that the source code matches the binary code that runs on a computer, enhancing security and preventing potential exploits. Also, they are important in scientific principles and for developers during code refactoring. [00:03:41] The Reproducible Project is made up of a few developers under the Software Freedom Conservancy, but also includes a large community working on different projects. The project receives funding from various grants and sometimes corporate sponsors. [00:05:56] We hear about the challenge of managing random elements in software to achieve reproducible builds. Vagrant talks about their goal to make reproducible builds a standard best proactive in the industry, benefitting software users. [00:08:27] Vagrant shares their challenge in educating people about reproducible builds while also trying to make it a standard practice. [00:09:09] How can open source projects help? They can help by setting up reproducibility testing in their continuous integration frameworks. [00:10:24] Richard asks how large companies can benefit from and contribute to reproducible builds. Vagrant mentions how companies like Google find value in reproducible builds as it saves time, energy, and money by not having to rebuild things when they know they don't have to. [00:11:56] Vagrant mentions that they're in the proof of concept phase of making Debian 96% reproducible, which includes over 30,000 source packages and over 50,000 binary packages. Richard asks about the project's expected completion date, which Vagrant responds it's his last mile problem to some degree, but they're close. [00:12:51] Find out where you can find Vagrant and Reproducible Builds on the internet. Links SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) SustainOSS Twitter (https://twitter.com/SustainOSS?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) SustainOSS Discourse (https://discourse.sustainoss.org/) podcast@sustainoss.org (mailto:podcast@sustainoss.org) SustainOSS Mastodon (https://mastodon.social/tags/sustainoss) Richard Littauer Twitter (https://twitter.com/richlitt?lang=en) Software Freedom Conservancy (https://sfconservancy.org/) Open OSS (https://openoss.sourceforge.net/) Vagrant Cascadian Mastodon (https://floss.social/@vagrantc) Aikidev, LLC (https://www.aikidev.net/about/story/) Reproducible Builds (https://reproducible-builds.org/) Credits Produced by Richard Littauer (https://www.burntfen.com/) Edited by Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Show notes by DeAnn Bahr Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Special Guest: Vagrant Cascadian.
This week, Brandon and Coté are joined by a special guest host, Brian Gracely. We discuss HashiCorp's transition to BSL and break down the recent interview with AWS CEO Adam Selipsky. Plus, some thoughts on the use of the word "orthogonal." Watch the YouTube Live Recording of Episode (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP7eM-EO8Lo) 428 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP7eM-EO8Lo) Runner-up Titles I like T-Bone Re:invent the T-Bone Byzantine Bramble Path This show isn't three hours, but it could be Those who are satisfied do not speak. Rundown BSL As HashiCorp adopts the BSL, an era of open-source software might be ending (https://www.runtime.news/as-hashicorp-adopts-the-bsl-an-era-of-open-source-software-might-be-ending/) HashiCorp changes its source licence to BSL (https://www.theregister.com/2023/08/11/hashicorp_bsl_licence/) HashiCorp Abandons Open Source for Business Source License (https://thenewstack.io/hashicorp-abandons-open-source-for-business-source-license/) Craig Box on LinkedIn: Hashicorp did a thing, and many people are responding with a variant of… (https://www.linkedin.com/posts/crbnz_hashicorp-did-a-thing-and-many-people-are-activity-7096055691773124608-BtQz?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop) There's no AI without the cloud, says AWS CEO Adam Selipsky — Decoder with Nilay Patel (https://overcast.fm/+QLdsFX2X0) Relevant to your Interests Hubert Horan: Can Uber Ever Deliver? 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(https://medium.com/@gordon.messmer/fossy-panelists-talk-rights-what-about-responsibilities-8b2bb2ae95f5) Oracle, SUSE and CIQ launch the Open Enterprise Linux Association amid Red Hat controversy | TechCrunch (https://techcrunch.com/2023/08/10/oracle-suse-and-ciq-launch-the-open-enterprise-linux-association-amid-red-hat-controversy/) Nonsense Why Taco Bell's free taco giveaway is happening everywhere but New Jersey | CNN Business (https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/08/business/taco-bell-giveaway-new-jersey/index.html) Mike Young, co-founder of Chuy's, has died (https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/mike-young-co-founder-of-chuys-has-died/) Mark Zuckerberg (@zuck) on Threads (https://www.threads.net/@zuck/post/Cv5CV3-rMKb/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==) Hitler Reacts to HashiCorp Transitioning to BSL (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J10xyPTE4I) Man eats nothing but Whataburger for a week to unlock the secrets of Texan identity | Boing Boing (https://boingboing.net/2023/08/10/man-eats-nothing-but-whataburger-for-a-week-to-unlock-the-secrets-of-texan-identity.html) Conferences Aug 21 - 22, Kubernetes Community Day Australia (https://community.cncf.io/events/details/cncf-kcd-australia-presents-kubernetes-community-day-australia-2023/) in Sydney, Matt attending. 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Guest Denver Gingerich Panelist Richard Littauer Show Notes Hello and welcome to Sustain! Richard is in Portland at FOSSY, the Free and Open Source Software Yearly conference that is held by the Software Freedom Conservancy. In this episode, Richard hosts Denver Gingerich, a member of the Software Freedom Conservancy and Founder of JMP. Denver dives into the backstory of JMP, the initiative to make phone numbers as flexible as emails. They explore Denver's role as the Director of Compliance at the Software Freedom Conservancy, where he ensures companies comply with open source software licenses. Then, the conversation takes a turn to tackle a range of software compliance controversies, from Vizio's violation of GPL to John Deere's restrictive software that hinders farmers' right to repair their machines. Denver provides an invaluable perspective on the work being done to protect users from software licensing malpractices. Press download now to hear more! [00:01:22] Denver tells us how he started JMP and the motivation behind it. [00:02:52] Richard asks Denver about the funding model for JMP and how he supports himself financially, and Denver explains his role at the Software Freedom Conservancy, a non-profit charity based in New York. [00:05:35] The Vizio lawsuit is talked about and Denver outlines how GPL enforcement lawsuits traditionally focus on copyrights but argues that the direct harm is usually done to the users of the software who receive it out of compliance. [00:06:58] Denver shares that he's not a lawyer by training, but he ended up in his role after reporting a GPL violation he encountered with an Insignia Blu-ray player to Bradley Kuhn at a conference. [00:08:44] Richard asks if XMPP, the protocol uses by JMP, has license or compliance issues, and Denver explains that it's not a software license issue and that XMPP, made through the IETF, doesn't pose any licensing concerns. [00:09:48] Richard discusses companies with bad track records in software licensing compliance and the right to repair, using John Deere as an example, and asks how anyone could know if a that company is violating software license agreements. Denver explains that the first step is to investigate what software is used on the machines. He also highlights the issues with modern agricultural technology. [00:12:20] Denver tells us there are around eight employees at the Software Freedom Conservancy. [00:12:47] Richard wonders about potential lawsuits against John Deere and Denver clarifies while they haven't sued, they did make a public post about their concerns after private discussions didn't lead to resolution. [00:13:41] Richard asks if there are similar user protection efforts in other countries, and Denver assures there are, citing examples in Germany and mentioning other organizations, such as FSFE. [00:14:50] Find out where you can learn more about Denver's work and the Software Freedom Conservancy. Links SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) SustainOSS Twitter (https://twitter.com/SustainOSS?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) SustainOSS Discourse (https://discourse.sustainoss.org/) podcast@sustainoss.org (mailto:podcast@sustainoss.org) SustainOSS Mastodon (https://mastodon.social/tags/sustainoss) Richard Littauer Twitter (https://twitter.com/richlitt?lang=en) Software Freedom Conservancy (https://sfconservancy.org/) Open OSS (https://openoss.sourceforge.net/) Denver Gingerich Website (https://ossguy.com/) JMP (https://jmp.chat/) FSFE (Free Software Foundation Europe) (https://fsfe.org/index.en.html) Credits Produced by Richard Littauer (https://www.burntfen.com/) Edited by Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Show notes by DeAnn Bahr Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Special Guest: Denver Gingerich.
Guests Timmy Barnett | Devin Ulibarri Panelist Richard Littauer Show Notes Hello and welcome to Sustain! Richard is in Portland at FOSSY, the Free and Open Source Software Yearly conference that is held by the Software Freedom Conservancy. In this podcast episode, Richard interviews Devin Ulibarri and Timmy Barnett about their work with Music Blocks and Sugar Labs. Music Blocks is a visual programming language that combines music and computation, allowing users to explore musical and computational concepts. Sugar Labs is a non-profit organization focused on providing free software learning activities for kids and teachers. Devin explains that Music Blocks started as a collaboration with Walter Bender, co-founder of Sugar Labs, to create a tool that empowers kids to learn and create music using free software. The software aims to offer a creative approach to music education, helping students explore concepts and compose music from the very beginning. Download this episode now to hear more! [00:01:28] Devin Ulibarri introduces Music Blocks. It's a visual programming language for music developed in collaboration with Sugar Labs, a non-profit organization promoting free software for education. Music Blocks combines music and computation, allowing users to explore both musical and computational concepts. [00:02:26] Devin explains how it got started. He was interested in free software in education and attended a talk by Walter Bender, co-founder of Sugar Labs. They collaborated to create Music Blocks. [00:03:43] There are more than 150 contributors to the Music Blocks project, and Japan has shown interest in using it in their national elementary school curriculum for teaching programming. [00:04:21] Devin explains how you can use different instruments or even record a sample of a sound to create an instrument. [00:05:14] Devin talks about being a musician and started a job at the Free Software Foundation last year, having played a significant role in incorporating Sugar Labs. [00:06:20] Sugar Labs is used across the world and it's impossible to really know with the nature of the software. However, there isn't nearly enough people operating it in the U.S. [00:08:23] Music Blocks is seen as an instrument, and the team focuses on reaching a critical mass of users to create a culture that promotes active learning and creativity. [00:09:16] The main challenge is educating the public about Music Blocks and providing teachers with the necessary tools and materials to integrate it into classrooms effectively. Also. there needs to be a culture with it. [00:10:15] There's Music Blocks for musicians and music educators. It offers a creative approach to music composition and exploration of musical concepts from the very beginning, which can be beneficial for music education. [00:11:15] They use an active approach to technology rather than passive. They hire students from music colleges to teach the kids via Music Blocks. [00:13:39] Music Blocks allows students to explore musical concepts and start composing music from the very beginning, promoting a more active and engaging learning experience. [00:14:35] Find out where you can follow Devin and Timmy on the internet. Links SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) SustainOSS Twitter (https://twitter.com/SustainOSS?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) SustainOSS Discourse (https://discourse.sustainoss.org/) podcast@sustainoss.org (mailto:podcast@sustainoss.org) SustainOSS Mastodon (https://mastodon.social/tags/sustainoss) Richard Littauer Twitter (https://twitter.com/richlitt?lang=en) Software Freedom Conservancy (https://sfconservancy.org/) Open OSS (https://openoss.sourceforge.net/) Devin Ulibarri's Website (https://www.devinulibarri.com/) Timmy Barnett's Website (https://timmybarnett.com/) Music Blocks (https://musicblocks.net/) Music Blocks Mastodon (https://mastodon.education/@musicblocks) Sugar Labs (https://www.sugarlabs.org/) Free Software Foundation (https://www.fsf.org/) Credits Produced by Richard Littauer (https://www.burntfen.com/) Edited by Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Show notes by DeAnn Bahr Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Special Guests: Devin Ulibarri and Timmy Barnet.
Guests Matthew Wild | Stephen Paul Weber Panelists Richard Littauer Show Notes Hello and welcome to Sustain! Richard is in Portland at FOSSY, the Free and Open Source Software Yearly conference that is held by the Software Freedom Conservancy. Today, he engages with XMPP protocol experts Matthew Wild and Stephen Paul. Matthew shares about his project, Snikket, which aims to make XMPP more accessible for everyday communication among friends and family groups. Stephen introduces JMP, a project designed to facilitate connections using an XMPP based stack, allowing smoother transitions from other communication platforms. They explore why XMPP stands out against competitors, and you'll get a glimpse into JMP's transparent funding model, Snikket's user base, and the open source projects it's built upon. Our guests also discuss their future visions, highlighting the importance of open communication and the potential for growth in the XMPP ecosystem. Hit download to hear more! [00:00:48] Matthew talks about his work with Snikket, and Stephen talks about the project JMP, which helps people connect with their friends and family using XMPP based stack and transition from other communication platforms. [00:01:57] Matthew explains why XMPP is a better protocol for Snikket compared to Signal; the main reason being that XMPP is federated, giving users more choice. [00:02:42] Matthew tells us how XMPP is different from Matrix and Delta Chat. [00:04:06] Stephen agrees with Matthew, stating that JMP also supports multiple protocols and wishes to promote open communication, and acknowledges concerns around Matrix's scalability and funding models. [00:04:47] Stephen describes JMP's straightforward funding model with customers paying a monthly fee for their services. Matthew reveals that Snicket's user base is hard to determine due to self-hosting and different statistics. [00:06:21] Matthew explains that Snicket is built on a variety of XMPP-based open-source projects, including Prosody, Conversations on Android, and Siskin on iOS. Stephen mentions that JMP is a five-member team. [00:07:37] Stephen explains JMP's business model, stating they function on a traditional business model where customer directly pay for the services they receive, and they operate as a cooperative. [00:08:59] JMP has about 3,300 paying customers and Stephen explains they don't have a dedicated marketing team, but they use blogs. [00:10:03] Stephen explains that he and the other primary founder of JMP do not currently draw income from the project. [00:10:54] Richard asks Matthew and Stephen about their long-term vision for their projects. Matthew explains his goal is open communication and Stephen shares his goal is create sustainable funding for the XMPP ecosystem. [00:13:22] Why are Matthew and Stephen focused on XMPP? Matthew tells us he always had a passion for communication and Stephen emphasizes the importance of communication, stating it's often overlooked and consumes by proprietary silos, which can be harmful. [00:14:47] Find out where you can follow Matthew and Stephen and learn more about JMP and Snikket. Links SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) SustainOSS Twitter (https://twitter.com/SustainOSS?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) SustainOSS Discourse (https://discourse.sustainoss.org/) podcast@sustainoss.org (mailto:podcast@sustainoss.org) SustainOSS Mastodon (https://mastodon.social/tags/sustainoss) Richard Littauer Twitter (https://twitter.com/richlitt?lang=en) Software Freedom Conservancy (https://sfconservancy.org/) Open OSS (https://openoss.sourceforge.net/) Matthew Wild Website (https://matthewwild.co.uk/) Stephen Paul Weber Website (https://singpolyma.net/) Snikket (https://snikket.org/) JMP (https://jmp.chat/) Credits Produced by Richard Littauer (https://www.burntfen.com/) Edited by Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Show notes by DeAnn Bahr Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Special Guests: Matthew Wild and Stephen Paul Weber.
Guest Erik Benner Panelists Richard Littauer | Eriol Fox Show Notes Hello and welcome to Sustain! We are in Portland at FOSSY, the Free and Open Source Software Yearly conference that is held by the Software Freedom Conservancy. Richard and Eriol are joined by Erik Benner, who works for Mythics, a large public sector IT company specializing in cloud migration and traditional legacy applications. Today, they discuss the challenges of transitioning open source software to government departments and the need for technical and cultural support in sustaining open source in the public sector. Erik emphasizes the importance of verifying true open source software and shares insights on Mythics role in providing services and support for government organizations. They also dive into the usability of open source applications, Erik's background in Unix and Linux, and the potential benefits and considerations of government involvement in open source. Hit download to hear more! [00:00:57] Erik tells us about Mythics. [00:01:43] Eriol asks Erik about the challenges of transitioning open source software to government departments and their familiarity with it. He also mentions the challenge of companies misrepresenting proprietary software as open source. [00:04:43] Erik suggests that governments should be more diligent in verifying if technology marketed as open source is truly open source and not modified. [00:05:56] Richard is curious about Mythics and Erik clarifies that Mythics helps government organizations procure and support commercial distributions like Oracle, providing services and knowledge base for technical support and education. [00:08:16] We learn about Mythics responsibility for fixing dependencies in the tech stack as Erik emphasizes the need for education and enablement in the public sector where training may be limited. He gives an example of cities adopting open source and highlights Mythics role in providing assistance. [00:09:44] Eriol expresses interest in the usability and user design of open source software, suggesting it could be more user-friendly, and Erik agrees and mentions that open source applications in the UI space have room for improvement in terms of user experience. [00:10:56] Erik talks about his early experience with Unix systems and his introduction to Linux, he mentions his involvement in kernel hacks, bug finding, and bug fixes. Then, he explains his career transition, how he became more involved with technologies and open source and discusses the importance of using the right tools for the right job. [00:13:04] Richard asks Erik about his opinion on government subsidizing or paying for open source to improve cybersecurity and make it a part of shared infrastructure. Erik mentions the MITRE Corporation and other government-funded initiatives that contribute to open source, highlighting existing grants and funding mechanisms. He compares government involvement in open source to examples like the post office and Amtrak, noting that a mix of government funding and other approaches can be effective. [00:15:09] Find out where you can follow Erik online. Links SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) SustainOSS Twitter (https://twitter.com/SustainOSS?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) SustainOSS Discourse (https://discourse.sustainoss.org/) podcast@sustainoss.org (mailto:podcast@sustainoss.org) SustainOSS Mastodon (https://mastodon.social/tags/sustainoss) Richard Littauer Twitter (https://twitter.com/richlitt?lang=en) Software Freedom Conservancy (https://sfconservancy.org/) Open OSS (https://openoss.sourceforge.net/) Erik Benner Twitter (https://twitter.com/Erik_Benner) Erik Benner LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/erikbenner) Tales from the Datacenter v2.0 (Erik's Blog) (https://talesfromthedatacenter.com/) Mythics (https://mythics.com/) MITRE Corporation (https://www.mitre.org/) CVE (https://cve.mitre.org/) Security Technical Implementation Guides (STIGs) (https://public.cyber.mil/stigs/) Credits Produced by Richard Littauer (https://www.burntfen.com/) Edited by Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Show notes by DeAnn Bahr Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Special Guest: Erik Benner.
Guest Sam Whited Panelist Richard Littauer Show Notes Hello and welcome to Sustain! Richard is in Portland, OR at FOSSY, the Free and Open Source Software Yearly conference that is held by the Software Freedom Conservancy. Today, our guest is Sam Whited, a bicycle mechanic with a deep involvement in open source software development. His contributions include work with the XMPP Standards Foundation, the Internet Engineering Task Force, and the creation of Mellium, an XMPP library in Go. The conversation delves into the sustainability challenges faced by Mellium and similar projects with Sam advocating for support from larger companies and well-funded open source initiatives. Sam, a strong supporter of open source co-op consultancies, also shares his personal journey from tech to bicycle mechanic, underscoring the struggle of maintaining open source projects while managing living expenses. Go ahead and download this episode now to hear more! [00:00:38] Sam tells us about himself, working as a bicycle mechanic while contributing to open source software in his free time. He's worked with the XMPP Standards Foundation, the Internet Engineering Task Force, and maintains an XMPP library called Mellium. [00:01:45] He explains XMPP stands for Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol and is an open standard communication protocol. He believes in it because of its recognized standards body, resilience, and the continuing work to keep it open, free, and sustainable. [00:02:38] XMPP sits at several levels in the communication stack. It's used in various applications like Snikket, Cisco's mobile video conferencing, Grindr, Zoom, and Jitsi. [00:04:11] Mellium is explained as an implementation of XMPP in Go. [00:05:13] Richard asks about the sustainability of Mellium. Sam acknowledges the challenges of attracting maintainers and funding for the project, and he explains his goal is to operate Mellium as a cooperative. [00:08:00] The conversation turns to funding for protocol implementation and Sam suggests that companies and well-funded open source projects should give back to the smaller projects they utilize. He mentions that Mellium sets aside a portion of their donations for upstream projects that helped him. [00:10:38] Sam explains “The Seven Cooperative Principles” from the International Cooperative Alliance. [00:11:30] Sam explains why he decided to work as a bike mechanic instead of pursuing work related to his expertise in using Golang. [00:13:43] Find out where you can find Sam on the internet. Links SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) SustainOSS Twitter (https://twitter.com/SustainOSS?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) SustainOSS Discourse (https://discourse.sustainoss.org/) podcast@sustainoss.org (mailto:podcast@sustainoss.org) SustainOSS mastodon (https://openoss.sourceforge.net/) Richard Littauer Twitter (https://twitter.com/richlitt?lang=en) Software Freedom Conservancy (https://sfconservancy.org/) Open OSS (https://openoss.sourceforge.net/) Sam Whited-social.coop (https://social.coop/@sam) Sam Whited Blog (https://blog.samwhited.com/) Mellium-Go XMPP library (https://xmpp.org/software/mellium/) XMPP Standards Foundation (XSF) (https://xmpp.org/about/xmpp-standards-foundation/) Go (https://go.dev/) Snikket (https://snikket.org/) Jitsi (https://jitsi.org/) Grindr (https://www.grindr.com/) The Seven Cooperative Principles (International Cooperative Alliance) (https://www.ica.coop/en/cooperatives/cooperative-identity) Credits Produced by Richard Littauer (https://www.burntfen.com/) Edited by Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Show notes by DeAnn Bahr Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Special Guest: Sam Whited.
Guest Karen M. Sandler Panelists Richard Littauer | Justin Dorfman Show Notes In this episode of Sustain, hosts Richard and Justin welcome Karen Sandler, Executive Director of the Software Freedom Conservancy (SFC). Karen shares her journey from engineer to lawyer, and how her personal health condition led her to the world of open source. She discusses her role at SFC, the importance of Copyleft licenses, and the organization's diversity initiative, Outreachy. Karen also shares her personal experience with her defibrillator pacemaker, emphasizing the need for more control over technology. The conversation then turns to SFC's role as a fiscal sponsor, its support for alternatives to proprietary software, and its work in enforcing Copyleft licenses. The episode concludes with a discussion about SFC's ongoing lawsuit with Vizio over Copyleft license obligations. Hit download to hear much more! [00:01:46] Karen discusses her background and how she got involved in open source and her role at the Software Freedom Conservancy (SFC). [00:04:44] Karen shares her personal experience with her defibrillator pacemaker, emphasizing the need for more control over technology. [00:09:34] Richard wants to know about how Software Freedom Conservancy came about, and if she helped found it. [00:10:58] Karen goes onto explain SFC's role as a fiscal sponsor, its support for alternatives to proprietary software, and its work in enforcing Copyleft licenses. [00:12:52] Justin is curious to find out the status of the Vizio lawsuit, so the group discusses SFC's ongoing lawsuit with Vizio over Copyleft license obligations. [00:15:08] Karen explains the difference between Copyleft and Copyright, emphasizing the importance of Copyleft. [00:17:30] Why is this lawsuit so important? Karen explains how companies like Vizio are not sharing source code under the terms of the Copyleft license. [00:26:54] Richard shares the news he read about how Japan says, “AI Model Training Doesn't Violate Copyright,” and Karen shares her thoughts and how it could be playing a role with things like Microsoft Co-pilot and its effect on Open Source Code. [00:31:55] We find out what software freedom means to Karen and the importance of holding companies accountable for their responsibilities under Copyleft licenses. Quotes [00:03:43] “Our technology may not be made for us, and what are we going to do when it's not.” [00:12:29] “It was never our purpose to just be a fiscal sponsor. It was our purpose to support software freedom.” [00:13:32] “The really deep thinking about licensing and whether or not how it works out to have non Copyleft licensing and Copyleft Licensing, how that impacts the longevity of a community and the ability to maintain the software as open source.” [00:17:10] “There's so much promise in devices where you can get access to the software because you can create alternative builds, you can do really cool stuff with them.” [00:19:42] “It's really the downstream recipients who are the ones who are hurt by the lack of compliance.” [00:24:03] “We're in it for the long haul. Going to do this slog so that we can come out at the other end and do our best and see if we can get a good result for software freedom.” [00:25:49] “Almost no business models rely on proprietary source code anymore. Very few are like royalty based.” [00:29:54] “I don't care about Copyleft necessarily. It's a strategy to get us to that goal of software freedom.” Spotlight [00:31:55] Justin's spotlight is py-cord, which allows you to create Discord bots. [00:35:49] Richard spotlights Kevin Kelly, and the Tim Ferriss Show podcast episode he was on. [00:36:20] Karen shares a personal spotlight, the late Marina Zhurakhinskaya. Marina helped found Outreachy and passed away just over a year ago. 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Come to FOSSY 2023! Show Notes: FOSSY 2023 will happen next week in Portland, OR, USA. Send feedback and comments on the cast to . You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter. Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums. The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).
Come to FOSSY 2023! Show Notes: FOSSY 2023 will happen next week in Portland, OR, USA. Send feedback and comments on the cast to . You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom by following Conservancy on on Twitter and and FaiF on Twitter. We are working on setting up a group chat again, too! Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums. The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).
Guests Chris Baker | Stephen Jacobs Panelists Richard Littauer | Justin Dorfman | Abby Cabunoc Mayes Show Notes Hello and welcome to Sustain! The podcast where we talk about sustaining open source for the long haul. Today, we are excited to have as our guests, Chris Baker and Stephen Jacobs, who work at RIT (Rochester Institute of Technology). Chris is the Assistant Director for the Open@RIT Program Office, and Stephen is a Professor at RIT and the Founder of Open@RIT. Our conversations today focus on how academia is trying to integrate open source into traditional academic practices, and how OSPO's are creating standards and best practices. Stephen and Chris also discuss how to help students deal with diverse incentives in open source and academia, the importance of role diversity in software development, and Stephen advocates for policy change to recognize the value of open work and to give credit to those who do it. Download this episode to hear more! [00:01:39] Chris fills us in on Open RIT where they're working to build open community and foster collaboration in the open space. [00:03:19] Stephen tells us about RIT having an open source department that teaches open source classes, offers an academic minor, and has an experiential education program. [00:07:50] Abby wonders if OSPO's are creating more career pathways, and Stephen explains they hope to create more opportunities in open source work in the future. [00:10:19] We hear about The Boyer's model of scholarship, and a classification system of four types of scholarship, and Stephen mentions the classic “Einstein Eureka” model being one of many, and he brings up Open Work Definition that RIT and a couple of other collaborators put out. [00:15:06] Stephen talks about The Sloan Foundation and why they're so interested in the research space of open source. [00:17:37] Open@RIT was founded by Stephen, Chris is the Assistant Director, and Mike Nolan is the Associate Director, and we'll hear about their responsibilities. [00:19:03] Chris explains how he's helping students deal with diverse incentives in open source and academia, and Stephen adds there's a need for educating on open science practices. [00:23:45] Stephen believes that policy need to change to recognize the value of open work and to give credit to those who do it. He also discusses the importance of role diversity in software development and how it can lead to more DEIA friendly projects. [00:27:10] What successful alumni came out of the Open@RIT? How about Justin Flory Jenn Kotler, and our very own Django Skorupa. [00:29:29] Chris and Stephen talk about other avenues they're pursuing to help teach open work outside of the university, and the FOSSY conference is mentioned. [00:33:59] Find out where you can learn more about Open work at RIT and where you can follow Chris and Stephen on the web. Quotes [00:04:25] “We became the second university with an OSPO.” [00:19:42] “We're taking students given their backgrounds, whether it be full-stack developers, or graphic design, and using that to produce the structure for open work inside of research.” Spotlight [00:36:49] Justin's spotlight is the 988 Crisis Lifeline. [00:37:23 Abby's spotlight is GitHub + Slack Integration open source project. [00:37:45] Richard's spotlight is getyourshittogether.org and Brain Donor Project. [00:38:28] Stephen's spotlight is Software Freedom Conservancy FOSSY Conf. [00:38:55] Chris's spotlight is the young ladies in rural high schools who are standing up to passive and aggressive sexism. 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Two households, both alike in dignity, in fair Seattle where we lay our scene... sounds like Kyle XY S02E16, "Great Expectations", obviously! It's the Romeo and Juliet episode for some reason, and these households truly are alike in dignity, between our least favorite son Josh Trager and our least favorite mom Carol Bloom! No dignity to be found! This episode isn't the best, but at least Hillary isn't in it, right? Right??? Sam | Jordan Twitter | Patreon | Discord | YouTube
Join Clovis, Aegor and Berkley (and Brynn? Bran? Bren?) as they explore the city of Fossy together...ish. Instagram: critsandwitsTwitter: @critsandwitsEmail: critsandwits@gmail.com
1. Where'd You Come Up (6:31) 2. First Board (8:31) 3. First Big Break (9:20) 4. Back Noseblunt Down Clipper (12:20) 5. Re-Shutting Down (19:00) 6. Free Your Mind Part (22:07) 7. Fossy (33:24) 8. Homies With Scott (37:10) 9. Keep Your Gnar Blade Sharp (40:34) 10. Switching It Up (43:54) 11. Lost Darell Tapes (48:24) 12. Superteam Rumours (54:29) 13. BTS (59:15) 14. Butter Tha Bread (1:02:26) 15. Ghetto Audio (1:07:09) 16. What You Been Up To (1:08:28) 17. What's Next (1:09:42) 18. Rapid Fire W/ Da Ghost (1:11:11) 19. Post Office (1:19:14) 20. The Rundown (1:36:54)
Hey Y'all! A long list this week - I guess I've just missed being with y'all so much that I had too much to tell you! I switched things up this week and started with #1 first, and if you listen, you'll understand why. Hope y'alls days and weeks are full of light! 1. Fossy's voice 2. My Pop Pop 3. Shepherd by Bethel featuring Amanda Cook 4. Cultivating Fossy's love for Coldplay 5. Reading the Bible with our Young Life Kids 6. Confronting OJ Simpson Podcast 7. Sports Wars Podcast - Season 3 "Michael Jordan vs. Isiah Thomas" 8. On the Fly Woven Pant by Lululemon 9. Late Sunsets 10. My First 30 Quiet Times by Ty Saltzgiver 11. Target $1 Bubbles 12. Psalm 37:9 MSG Version 13. Swimming with Meagan Hawley's girls
This week we have Bev's birthday, Tricksy Trickett, Foss not Fossy, many lovely emails, the passing of Keith Flint, arbitrarys and thingys, stats and super swift ladies, Nicola at Oakwell Hall parkrun and Danny at Tewkesbury parkrun.
Well, we made it. Fossy celebrated his first year last Friday, so Tay and I sat down to recap the second 6 months of Fossy's life, and talk through expectations vs. reality of parenting. Some topics that came up? Sleep, discipline, our parents, travel, attachment, and being a dad vs. a mama in the first year. We also talk about our plans for fostering and adopting, and it wouldn't be a Tay and Kam podcast if I didn't throw him under the bus at least 3 times. Happy listening!
Happy Tuesday! I've got seven things for ya this week, each of which have gave me a glimpse of glory since I've talked to ya last. On this week's list: 7. Nan Blair 6. Hiding behind doors (playing peek-a-boo with Fossy) 5. College Young Life 4. Sails by Pat Barrett ft. Steffany Gretzinger and Amanda Cook 3. The Cuckoo's Calling by Peter Galbraith (aka JK Rowling) 2. Middle Schoolers 1. Having margin
My favorite person is back behind the mic again. This time, we are discussing the tornado that has encompassed every fiber of our being, otherwise known as our mixed mocha babe, Foster. Tay recaps the birth situation, (which I recap in Episode 21)and we jointly discuss essentially anything you can think of: Moving with a 3 week old, how I thought him coming home 3 minutes later than he said he'd be was the end of the world (sleep deprivation makes everything worse), Fossy's (lack of) sleep, and our favorite parts about him. Heck, we even talk about sex. Sorry Grandma. Hope our honesty sheds some light for some of y'all prospective parents, and for all of y'all wise enough to not have kids, here's to a few laughs.
Hey Y'all! Staying home with Fossy is my favorite thing. As you can probably tell, the pace of life over here has slowed way down, and the number of hours each day I have both hands free are few. I want every baby cuddle I can get, and I also want to continue to give the podcast the adequate preparation and prayer it deserves, so I'm moving to releasing one every other week! In this quick episode, I share how our new city is, a few highlights from his 2 months on earth, and give you a preview as to who you have coming on the podcast in 2017! Thank you for your grace as I figure out this new mama hat. I'm still so humbled that God has given me this creative outlet and I couldn't be more excited for what's to come on the podcast.
Hey Ya'll! One of the things I benefitted the most from and helped me feel the most prepared before going into labor was reading a birth story and meeting with another woman who had been induced several times the day before I went to the hospital! I hope that this podcast episode is exactly that for some of you, regardless of if you're having a baby tomorrow or in 10 years! I kept a pretty detailed note on my phone throughout the process because I knew I wanted to share with ya'll. In this episode, I talk about the days leading up to, the actual labor, and how things have been going since Fossy man has been home with us. Warning: the word cervix is used several times :) Even if you aren't anywhere near this stage of life, I pray its encouraging! *Letting the Light In will be taking a brief break - look for the next episode on Tuesday, October 3rd! In the mean time, I would be so thankful if you left a review or rating on iTunes! I'll miss ya'll and am already looking forward to sharing the first guest - hint: she has 3 kiddos, champions down syndrome, and has one of the greatest insta accounts EVER (@macymakesmyday).
Gleich zu Beginn bedanken wir uns bei unseren Hörern Fossy und Alexander, die uns ein schönes Geschenk gemacht haben, welches Ruben live in der Sendung zum ersten Mal auspackt. Nach einer kurzen Nachbesprechung des DFB-Pokal Finales gegen Stuttgart widmen wir uns hauptsächlich den News der vergangenen Wochen. Darunter natürlich das unentwegte Hickhack um Lewandowski und der wahrscheinliche unrühmliche Abschied von Mario Gomez. Natürlich findet ein anständiger Rückblick über die Saison statt, der von einer Spielerwahl durch die Hörer garniert wird. Die Ergebnisse der Abstimmung findet ihr unter read more. Jetzt geht es erstmal in die Sommerpause. Wenn sich aber besondere News ergeben, sind wir sofort wieder da mit einer Folge. Die Hangout-Aufnahme ist heute ein bisschen länger mit viel doofem Gelaber am Anfang. Vielleicht stört's euch nicht =)