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Join Christina Warren and Brett Terpstra as they navigate the freezing Minnesotan cold without running water, delve into the intersection of tech and political turmoil, and explore the latest in AI agents and multi-agent workflows. Dive into a whirlwind of emotions, tech tips, and political ranting, all while contemplating the ethics of open source funding and AI coding. From brutal weather updates to philosophical debates on modern fascism, this episode pulls no punches. Sponsor Copilot Money can help you take control of your finances. Get a fresh start with your money for 2026 with 2 months free when you visit try.copilot.money/overtired. Show Links Crimethinc: Being “Peaceful” and “Law-Abiding” Will Not Stop Authoritarianism Gas Town Apex OpenCode Backdrop Cindori Sensei Moltbot Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Host Updates 00:21 Brett’s Water Crisis 02:27 Political Climate and Media Suppression 06:32 Police Violence and Public Response 18:31 Social Media and Surveillance 22:15 Sponsor Break: Copilot Money 26:20 Tech Talk: Gas Town and AI Agents 31:58 Crypto Controversies 37:09 Ethics in Journalism and Personal Dilemmas 39:45 The Future of Open Source and Cryptocurrency 45:03 Apex 1.0? 48:25 Challenges and Innovations in Markdown Processing 01:02:16 AI in Coding and Personal Assistants 01:06:36 GrAPPtitude 01:14:40 Conclusion and Upcoming Plans Join the Conversation Merch Come chat on Discord! Twitter/ovrtrd Instagram/ovrtrd Youtube Get the Newsletter Thanks! You’re downloading today’s show from CacheFly’s network BackBeat Media Podcast Network Check out more episodes at overtiredpod.com and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app. Find Brett as @ttscoff, Christina as @film_girl, Jeff as @jsguntzel, and follow Overtired at @ovrtrd on Twitter. Transcript AI Agents and Political Chaos Introduction and Host Updates Christina: [00:00:00] Welcome back. You’re listening to Overtired. I’m Christina Warren. Joined as always by Brett Terpstra. Jeff Severns. Guntzel could not be with us this week, um, but uh, but Brett and I are here. So Brett, how are you? How’s the cold? Brett: The cold. Brett’s Water Crisis Brett: So I’m going on day four without running water. Um, I drove to my parents last night to shower and we’re, we’re driving loads of dishes to friends’ house to wash them. We have big buckets of melted snow in our bathtub that we use to flush the Toyland. Um, and we have like big jugs with a spout on them for drinking water. So we’re surviving, but it is highly inconvenient. Um, and we don’t know yet if it’s a frozen pipe. Or if we have [00:01:00] a bad pump on our, well, uh, hopefully we’ll find that out today. But no guarantees because all the plumbers are very busy right now with negative 30 degree weather. They tend to get a lot of calls, lots of stuff happens. Um, so yeah, but I’m, I’m staying warm. I got a fireplace, I got my heat’s working Christina: I mean, that’s the important thing. Brett: and that went out, that went out twice, in, twice already. This winter, our heat has gone out, um, which I’m thankful. We, we finally, we added glycol to our, so our heat pumps water through, like, it’s not radiators, it’s like baseboard heat, but it, it uses water and. Um, and though we were getting like frozen spots, not burst pipes, just enough that the water wouldn’t go through fast enough to heat anything. So we added glycol to that [00:02:00] system to bring the freeze point down to like zero degrees. So it’s not perfect, but we also hardwired the pump so that it always circulates water, um, even when the heat’s not running. So hopefully it’ll never freeze again. That’s the goal. Um, and if we replace the well pump, that should be good for another 20 years. So hopefully after this things will be smoother. Political Climate and Media Suppression Brett: Um, yeah, but that, that’s all in addition to, you know, my state being occupied by federal agents and even in my small town, we’ve got people being like, abducted. Things are escalating quickly at this point, and a lot of it doesn’t get talked about on mainstream media. Um, but yeah, things, I don’t know, man. I think we’re making progress because, um, apparently Binos [00:03:00] getting retired Christina: I was going to say, I, I, I, I heard, I heard that, and I don’t know if that’s good or if that’s bad. Um, I can’t, I can’t tell. Brett: it’s, it’s like, it’s like if Trump died, we wouldn’t know if that was good or bad because JD Vance as president, like maybe things get way worse. Who knows? Uh, none of these, none of these actual figureheads are the solution. Removing them isn’t the solution to removing the kinda maga philosophy behind it. But yeah, and that’s also Jeff is, you know, highly involved and I, I won’t, I won’t talk about that for him. I hope we can get him monsoon to talk about that. Christina: No, me, me, me too. Because I’ve, I’ve been thinking about, about him and about you and about your whole area, your communities, you know, from several thousand miles away. Like all, all we, all we see is either what people post online, which of course now is being suppressed. [00:04:00] Uh, thanks a lot. You know, like, like the, oh, TikTok was gonna be so terrible. Chi the, the Chinese are gonna take over our, uh, our algorithms. Right? No, Larry Ellison is, is actually going to completely, you know, fuck up the algorithms, um, and, and suppress anything. I, yeah. Yeah. They’re, they’re Brett: is TikTok? Well, ’cause Victor was telling me that, they were seeing videos. Uh, you would see one frame of the video and then it would black out. And it all seemed to be videos that were negative towards the administration and we weren’t sure. Is this a glitch? Is this coincidence? Christina: well, they claim it’s a glitch, but I don’t believe it. Brett: Yeah, it seems, it seems Christina: I, I mean, I mean, I mean, the thing is like, maybe it is, maybe it is a glitch and we’re overreacting. I don’t know. Um, all I know is that they’ve given us absolutely zero reason to trust them, and so I don’t, and so, um, uh, apparently the, the state of California, this is, [00:05:00] so we are recording this on Tuesday morning. Apparently the state of California has said that they are going to look into whether things are being, you know, suppressed or not, and if that’s violating California law, um, because now that, that, that TikTok is, is controlled by an American entity, um, even if it is, you know, owned by like a, you know, uh, evil, uh, billionaire, you know, uh, crony sto fuck you, Larry Ellison. Um, uh, I guess that means we won’t be getting an Oracle sponsorship. Sorry. Um, uh, Brett: take it anyway. Christina: I, I know you wouldn’t, I know you wouldn’t. That’s why I felt safe saying that. Um, but, uh, but even if, if, if that were the case, like I, you know, but apparently like now that it is like a, you know, kind of, you know, state based like US thing, like California could step in and potentially make things difficult for them. I mean, I think that’s probably a lot of bluster on Newsom’s part. I don’t think that he could really, honestly achieve any sort of change if they are doing things to the algorithm. Brett: Yeah. Uh, [00:06:00] if, if laws even matter anymore, it would be something that got tied up in court for a long time Christina: Right. Which effectively wouldn’t matter. Right. And, and then that opens up a lot of other interesting, um, things about like, okay, well, you know, should we, like what, what is the role? Like even for algorithmically determined things of the government to even step in or whatever, right now, obviously does, I think, become like more of a speech issue if it’s government speech that’s being suppressed, but regardless, it, it is just, it’s bad. So I’ve been, I’ve been thinking about you, I’ve been thinking about Jeff. Police Violence and Public Response Christina: Um, you know, we all saw what happened over the weekend and, and, you know, people be, people are being murdered in the streets and I mean that, that, that’s what’s happening. And, Brett: white people no less, Christina: Right. Well, I mean, that’s the thing, right? Like, is that like, but, but, but they keep moving the bar. They, they keep moving the goalpost, right? So first it’s a white woman and, oh, she, she was, she was running over. The, the officer [00:07:00] or the ice guy, and it’s like, no, she wasn’t, but, but, but that, that’s immediately where they go and, and she’s, you know, radical whatever and, and, and a terrorist and this and that. Okay. Then you have a literal veterans affair nurse, right? Like somebody who literally, like, you know, has, has worked with, with, with combat veterans and has done those things. Who, um, is stepping in to help someone who’s being pepper sprayed, you know, is, is just observing. And because he happens to have, um, a, a, a, a gun on him legally, which he’s allowed to do, um, they immediately used that as cover to execute him. But if he hadn’t had the gun, they would’ve, they would’ve come up with something else. Oh, we thought he had a gun, and they, you know what I mean? So like, they, they got lucky with that one because they removed the method, the, the, the weapon and then shot him 10 times. You know, they literally executed him in the street. But if he hadn’t had a gun, they still would’ve executed. Brett: Yeah, no, for sure. Um, it’s really frustrating that [00:08:00] they took the gun away. So he was disarmed and, and immobilized and then they shot him. Um, like so that’s just a straight up execution. And then to bring, like, to say that it, he, because he had a gun, he was dangerous, is such a, an affront to America has spent so long fighting against gun control and saying that we had the right to carry fucking assault rifles in the Christina: Kyle Rittenhouse. Kyle Rittenhouse was literally acquitted. Right? Brett: Yeah. And he killed people. Christina: and, and he killed people. He was literally walking around little fucking stogey, you know, little blubbering little bitch, like, you know, crying, you know, he’s like carrying around like Rambo a gun and literally snipe shooting people. That’s okay. Brett: They defended Christina: if you have a. They defended him. Of course they did. Right? Of course they did. Oh, well he has the right to carry and this and that, and Oh, you should be able to be armed in [00:09:00] these places. Oh, no, but, but if you’re, um, somebody that we don’t like Brett: Yeah, Christina: and you have a concealed carry permit, and I don’t even know if he was really concealed. Right. Because I think that if you have it on your holster, I don’t even think that counts as concealed to Brett: was supposedly in Christina: I, I, I don’t, I don’t, I don’t. Brett: like it Christina: Which I don’t think counts as concealed. I think. Brett: No. Christina: Right, right. So, so, so, so, so that, that, that wouldn’t be concealed. Be because you have someone in, in that situation, then all of a sudden, oh, no. Now, now the, the key, the goalpost, okay, well, it’s fine if it’s, you know, uh, police we don’t like, or, or other people. And, and, and if you’re going after protesters, then you can shoot and kill whoever you want, um, because you’ve perceived a threat and you can take actions into your, to your own hands. Um, but now if you are even a white person, um, even, you know, someone who’s, who’s worked in Veterans Affairs, whatever, if, if you have, uh, even if you’re like a, a, a, you know, a, a gun owner and, and have permits, um, now [00:10:00] if we don’t like you and you are anywhere in the vicinity of anybody associated with law enforcement, now they have the right to shoot you dead. Like that’s, that’s, that’s the argument, which is insanity. Brett: so I’m, I’m just gonna point out that as the third right came to power, they disarmed the Jews and they disarmed the anarchists and the socialists and they armed the rest of the population and it became, um, gun control for people they didn’t like. Um, and this is, it’s just straight up the same playbook. There’s no, there’s no differentiation anymore. Christina: No, it, it, it actively makes me angry that, um, I, I could be, because, ’cause what can we do? And, and what they’re counting on is the fact that we’re all tired and we’re all kind of, you know, like just, [00:11:00] you know, from, from what happened, you know, six years ago and, and, and what happened, you know, five years ago. Um, and, and, and various things. I think a lot of people are, are just. It kind of like Brett: Sure. Christina: done with, with, with being able to, to, to, right. But now the actual fascism is here, right? Like, like we, we, we saw a, a, you know, a whiff of this on, on, on January 6th, but now it’s actual fascism and they control every branch of government. Brett: Yeah. Christina: And, um, and, and, and I, and I don’t know what we’re supposed to do, right? Like, I mean it, because I mean, you know, uh, Philadelphia is, is, is begging for, for, for them to come. And I think that would be an interesting kind of standoff. Seattle is this, this is what a friend of mine said was like, you know, you know Philadelphia, Filch Philadelphia is begging them to come. Seattle is like scared. Um, that, that they’re going to come, um, because honestly, like we’re a bunch of little bitch babies and, um, [00:12:00] people think they’re like, oh, you know the WTO. I’m like, yeah, that was, that was 27 years ago. Um, uh, I, I don’t think that Seattle has the juice to hold that sort of line again. Um, but I also don’t wanna find out, right? Like, but, but, but this is, this is the attack thing. It’s like, okay, why are they in Minnesota? Right? They’re what, like 130,000, um, Brett: exactly Christina: um, immigrants in, in Minnesota. There are, there are however many million in Texas, however many million in Florida. We know exactly why, right? This isn’t about. Anything more than Brett: in any way. Christina: and opt. Right, right. It has nothing, it has nothing to do with, with, with immigration anyway. I mean, even, even the Wall Street Journal. The Wall Street Journal who a, you know, ran an op-ed basically saying get out of Minnesota. They also, they also had like a, you know, a news story, which was not from the opinion board, which like broke down the, the, the footage showing, you know, that like the, the video footage doesn’t match the administration’s claims, but they also ran a story. Um, that [00:13:00] basically did the math, I guess, on like the number of, of criminals, um, or people with criminal records who have been deported. And at this point, like in, you know, and, and when things started out, like, I guess when the raid started out, the, the majority of the people that they were kind of going after were people who had criminal records. Now, whether they were really violent, the worst, the worst, I mean that’s, I’m, I’m not gonna get into that, but you could at least say like, they, they could at least say, oh, well these were people who had criminal records, whatever. Now some, some huge percentage, I think it’s close to 80% don’t have anything. And many of the people that do the, the criminal like thing that they would hold would be, you know, some sort of visa violation. Right. So it’s, it’s, it’s Brett: they deported a five-year-old kid after using him as bait to try to get the rest of his family. Christina: as bait. Brett: Yeah. And like it’s, it’s pretty deplorable. But I will say I am proud of Minnesota. Um, they have not backed [00:14:00] down. They have stood up in the face of increasing increasingly escalated attacks, and they have shown up in force thousands of people out in the streets. Like Conti, like last night they had a, um, well, yeah, I mean, it’s been ongoing, but, uh, what’s his name? Preddy Alex. Um, at the place where he was shot, they had a, like continuing kind of memorial protest, I guess, and there’s footage of like a thousand, a thousand mins surrounding about 50, um, ICE agents and. Like basically corralling them to the point where they were all backed into a corner and weren’t moving. And I don’t know what happened after that. Um, but thus far it hasn’t been violent on the part of protesters. It’s been very violent on the part of ice. I [00:15:00] personally, I don’t know where I stand on, like, I feel like the Democrats are urging pacifism because it affects their hold on power. And I don’t necessarily think that peace when they’re murdering us in the street. I don’t know if peace is the right response, but I don’t know. I’m not openly declaring that I support violence at this point, but. At the same time, do I not? I’m not sure. Like I keep going back and forth on is it time for a war or do we try to vote our way out of this? Christina: I mean, well, and the scary thing about voting our way out of this is will we even be able to have free elections, right? Be because they’re using any sort of anything, even the most benign sort of legal [00:16:00] protest, even if violence isn’t involved in all of a sudden, talks of the Insurrection Act come Brett: yeah. And Trump, Trump offered to pull out of Minnesota if Minnesota will turn over its voter database to the federal government. Like that’s just blatant, like that’s obviously the end goal is suppression. Christina: Right, right. And, and so to your point, I don’t know. Right. And I’m, I’m never somebody who would wanna advocate outwardly for violence, but I, I, I, I, I don’t know. I mean, they’re killing citizens in the streets. They’re assassinating people in cold blood. They’re executing people, right. That’s what they’re doing. They’re literally executing people in the streets and then covering it up in real time. Brett: if the argument is, if we are violent, it will cause them to kill us. They’re already killing Christina: already doing it. Right. So at, at this point, I mean, like, you know, I mean, like, w to your point, wars have been started for, for, for less, or for the exact same things. Brett: [00:17:00] Yeah. Christina: So, I don’t know. I don’t know. Um, I know that that’s a depressing way to probably do mental health corner and whatnot, but this is what’s happening in our world right now and in and in your community, and it’s, it’s terrifying. Brett: I’m going to link in the show notes an article from Crime Think that was written by, uh, people in Germany who have studied, um, both historical fascism and the current rise of the A FD, which will soon be the most powerful party in Germany, um, which is straight up a Nazi party. Um, and it, they offered, like their hope right now lies in America stopping fascism. Christina: Yeah. Brett: Like if we can, if we can stop fascism, then they believe the rest of Europe can stop fascism. Um, but like they, it, it’s a good article. It kind of, it kind of broaches the same questions I do about like, is it [00:18:00] time for violence? And they offer, like, we don’t, we’re not advocating for a civil war, but like Civil wars might. If you, if you, if you broach them as revolutions, it’s kind of, they’re kind of the same thing in cases like this. So anyway, I’ll, I’ll link that for anyone who wants to read kinda what’s going on in my head. I’m making a note to dig that up. I, uh, I love Crime Fake Oh and Blue Sky. Social Media and Surveillance Brett: Um, so I have not, up until very recently been an avid Blue Sky user. Um, I think I have like, I think I have maybe like 200 followers there and I follow like 50 people. But I’ve been expanding that and I am getting a ton of my news from Blue Sky and like to get stories from people on the ground, like news as it happens, unfiltered and Blue Sky has been [00:19:00] really good for that. Um, I, it’s. There’s not like an algorithm. I just get my stuff and like Macedon, I have a much larger following and I follow a lot more people, but it’s very tech, Christina: It’s very tech and, Brett: there for. Christina: well, and, and MAs on, um, understandably too is also European, um, in a lot of regards. And so it’s just, it’s not. Gonna have the same amount of, of people who are gonna be able to, at least for instances like this, like be on the ground and doing real-time stuff. It’s not, it doesn’t have like the more normy stuff. So, no, that makes sense. Um, no, that’s great. I think, yeah, blue Sky’s been been really good for, for these sorts of real-time events because again, they don’t have an algorithm. Like you can have one, like for a personalized kind of like for you feed or whatever, but in terms of what you see, you know, you see it naturally. You’re not seeing it being adjusted by anything, which can be good and bad. I, I think is good because nothing’s suppressing things and you see things in real time. It can be bad because sometimes you miss things, but I think on the whole, it’s better. [00:20:00] The only thing I will say, just to anyone listening and, and just to spread onto, you know, people in your communities too, from what I’ve observed from others, like, it does seem like the, the government and other sorts of, you know, uh, uh, the, you know, bodies like that are finally starting to pay more attention to blue sky in terms of monitoring things. And so that’s not to say don’t. You know, use it at all. But the same way, you don’t make threats on Twitter if you don’t want the Feds to show up at your house. Don’t make threats on Blue Sky, because it’s not just a little microcosm where, you know, no one will see it. People are, it, it’s still small, but it’s, it’s getting bigger to the point that like when people look at like where some of the, the, the fire hose, you know, things observable things are there, there seem to be more and more of them located in the Washington DC area, which could just be because data centers are there, who knows? But I’ve also just seen anecdotally, like people who have had, like other instances, it’s like, don’t, don’t think [00:21:00] that like, oh, okay, well, you know, no one’s monitoring this. Um, of course people are so just don’t be dumb, don’t, don’t say things that could potentially get you in trouble. Um. Brett: a political candidate in Florida. Um, had the cops show up at her house and read her one of her Facebook posts. I mean, this was local. This was local cops, but still, yeah, you Christina: right. Well, yeah, that’s the thing, right? No, totally. And, and my, my only point with that is we’ve known that they do that for Facebook and for, for, you know, Twitter and, and, uh, you know, Instagram and things like that, but they, but Blue Sky, like, I don’t know if it’s on background checks yet, but it, uh, like for, uh, for jobs and things like that, I, I, I don’t know if that’s happening, but it definitely is at that point where, um, I know that people are starting to monitor those things. So just, you know, uh, not even saying for you per se, but just for anybody out there, like, it’s awesome and I’m so glad that like, that’s where people can get information out, but don’t be like [00:22:00] lulled into this false sense of security. Like, oh, well they’re not gonna monitor this. They’re not Brett: Nobody’s watching me here. Christina: It is like, no, they are, they are. Um, so especially as it becomes, you know, more prominent. So I’m, I’m glad that that’s. That’s an option there too. Um, okay. 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Download copilot money on your devices or visit. Try copilot money slash [00:24:00] overti today to claim you’re two months free and embrace a more organized, stress-free approach to your finances. Try copilot.money/ Overtired. Brett: Awesome that I appreciate this segue. ’cause we, we, we could, we could be talking about other things. Um, like it’s, it feels so weird, like when I go on social media and I just want to post that like my water’s out. It feels out of place right now because there’s everything that’s going on feels so much more important than, Christina: Right. Brett: than anything else. Um, but there’s still a place for living our lives, um, Christina: there are a absolutely. I mean, and, and, and in a certain extent, like not to, I mean, maybe this is a little bit of a cope, but it’s like, if all we do is focus on the things that we can’t control at the expense of everything else, it’s like then they win. You know? Like, which, which isn’t, which, which isn’t even to [00:25:00] say, like, don’t talk about what’s happening. Don’t try to help, don’t try to speak out and, and, um, and do what we can do, but also. Like as individuals, there’s very little we can control about things. And being completely, you know, subsumed by that is, is not necessarily good either. Um, so yeah, there’s, there, there are other things going on and it’s important for us to get out of our heads. It’s important, especially for you, you know, being in the region, I think to be able to, to focus on other things and, and hopefully your water will be back soon. ’cause that sucks like that. I’ve been, I’ve been worried about you. I’m glad that you have heat. I’m glad you have internet. I’m glad you have power, but you know, the pipes being frozen and all that stuff is like, not Brett: it, the, the internet has also been down for up to six hours at a time. I don’t know why. There’s like an amplifier down on our street. Um, and that has sucked because I, out here, I live in a, I’m not gonna call it rural. Uh, we’re like five minutes from town, [00:26:00] but, um, we, we don’t. We have shitty internet. Like I pay for a gigabit and I get 500 megabits and it’s, and it’s up and down all the time and I hate it. But anyway. Tech Talk: Gas Town and AI Agents Brett: Let’s talk about, uh, let’s talk about Gas Town. What can you tell me about Gastown? Christina: Okay. So we’ve talked a lot about like AI agents and, um, kind of like, uh, coding, um, loops and, and things like that. And so Gastown, uh, which is available, um, at, I, it is not Gas Town. Let me find the URL, um, one second. It’s, it’s at a gas town. No, it’s not. Lemme find it. Um. Right. So this is a thing that, that Steve Yy, uh, has created, and [00:27:00] it is a multi-agent workspace manager. And so the idea is basically that you can be running like a lot of instances of, um, of, of Claude Code or, um, I guess you could use Codex. You could use, uh, uh, uh, co-pilot, um, SDK or CLI agent and whatnot. Um, and basically what it’s designed to do is to basically let you coordinate like multiple coding agents at one time so they can all be working on different tasks, but then instead of having, um, like the context get lost when agents restart, it creates like a, a persistent, um, like. Work state, which it uses with, with git on the backend, which is supposed to basically enable more multi-agent workflows. So, um, basically the idea would be like, you get, have multiple agents working at once, kind of talking to one another, handing things off, you know, each doing their own task and then coordinating the work with what the other ones are doing. But then you have like a persistent, um, uh, I guess kind of like, you know, layer in the backend so that if an agent has to restart or whatever, it’s not gonna lose the, [00:28:00] the context, um, that that’s happening. And you don’t have to manually, um, worry about things like, okay, you know, I’ve lost certain things in memory and, and I’ve, you know, don’t know how I’m, I’m managing all these things together. Um, there, there’s another project, uh, called Ralph, which is kind of based on this, this concept of like, what of Ralph Wickham was, you know, coding or, or was doing kind of a loop. And, and it’s, it’s, it’s a, it’s kind of a similar idea. Um, there’s also. Brett: my nose wouldn’t bleed so much if I just kept my finger out of there. Christina: Exactly, exactly. My cat’s breath smells like cat food. Um, and um, and so. Like there are ideas of like Ralph Loops and Gastown. And so these are a couple of like projects, um, that have really started to, uh, take over. So like, uh, Ralph is more of an autonomous AI agent loop that basically like it runs like over and over and over again until, uh, a task is done. Um, and, and a lot of people use, use Gastown and, [00:29:00] and, and Ralph together. Um, but yeah, no Ga gastown is is pretty cool. Um, we’ll we’re gonna talk about it more ’cause it’s my pick of the week. We’ll talk about Molt bot previously known as Claude Bot, which is, uses some, some similar ideas. But it’s really been interesting to see like how, like the, the multi-agent workflow, and by multi-agent, I mean like, people are running like 20 or 30 of them, you know, at a time. So it’s more than that, um, is really starting to become a thing that people can, uh, can do. Um, Brett: gets expensive though. Christina: I was, I was just about to say that’s the one thing, right? Most people who are using things like Gastown. Are using them with the Claude, um, code Max plans, which is $200 a month. And those plans do give you more value than like, what the, what it would be if you spent $200 in API credits, uh, but $200 a month. Like that’s not an expensive, that’s, you know, that, that’s, that, that, like, you know what I mean? Like, like that, that, that, that, that, that’s a lot of money to spend on these sorts of things. Um, but people [00:30:00] are getting good results out of it. It’s pretty cool. Um. There have been some open models, which of course, most people don’t have equipment that would be fast enough for them to, to run, uh, to be able to kind of do what they would want, um, reliably. But the, the AgTech stuff coming to some of the open models is better. And so if these things can continue, of course now we’re in a ram crisis and storage crisis and everything else, so who knows when the hardware will get good enough again, and we can, when we as consumers can even reasonably get things ourselves. But, but in, in theory, you know, if, if these sorts of things continue, I could see like a, a world where like, you know, some of the WAN models and some of the other things, uh, potentially, um, or Quinn models rather, um, could, uh. Be things that you could conceivably, like be running on your own equipment to run these sorts of nonstop ag agentic loops. But yeah, right now, like it’s really freaking cool and I’ve played around with it because I’m fortunate enough to have access to a lot of tokens. [00:31:00] Um, but yeah, I can get expensive real, real fast. Uh, but, but it’s still, it’s still pretty awesome. Brett: I do appreciate that. So, guest Town, the name is a reference to Mad Max and in the kind of, uh, vernacular that they built for things like background agents and I, uh, there’s a whole bunch, there are different levels of, of the interface that they kind of extrapolated on the gas town kind of metaphor for. Uh, I, it was, it, it, there were some interesting naming conventions and then they totally went in other directions with some of the names. It, they didn’t keep the theme very well, but, but still, uh, I appreciate Ralph Wig and Mad Max. That’s. It’s at the very least, it’s interesting. Christina: No, it definitely is. It definitely is. Crypto Controversies Christina: I will say that there’s been like a little bit [00:32:00] of a kerfuffle, uh, involved in both of those, uh, developers because, um, they’re both now promoting shit coins and, uh, and so that’s sort of an interesting thing. Um, basically there’s like this, this, this crypto company called bags that I guess apparently like if people want to, they will create crypto coins for popular open source projects, and then they will designate someone to, I guess get the, the gas fees, um, in, um, uh, a Solana parlance, uh, no pun intended, with the gas town, um, where basically like that’s, you know, like the, the, the fees that you spend to have the transaction work off of the blockchain, right? Like, especially if there’s. A lot of times that it would take, like, you pay a certain percentage of something and like those fees could be designated to an individual. And, um, in this case, like both of these guys were reached out to when basically they were like, Hey, this coin exists. You’ve got all this money just kind of sitting in a crypto wallet waiting for you. [00:33:00] Take the money, get, get the, the transaction fees, so to speak. And, uh, I mean, I think that, that, that’s, if you wanna take that money right, it’s, it’s there for you. I’m not gonna certainly judge anyone for that. What I will judge you for is if you then promote your shit coin to your community and basically kind of encourage everyone. To kind of buy into it. Maybe you put in the caveat, oh, this isn’t financial advice. Oh, this is all just for whatever. But, but you’re trying to do that and then you go one step beyond, which I think is actually pretty dumb, which is to be like, okay, well, ’cause like, here’s the thing, I’m not gonna judge anyone. If someone who’s like, Hey, here’s a wallet that we’re gonna give you, and it has real cash in it, and you can do whatever you want with it, and these are the transaction fees, so to speak, like, you know, the gas fees, whatever, you know what you do. You, even if you wanna let your audience know that you’ve done that, and maybe you’re promoting that, maybe some people will buy into it, like, people are adults. Fine. Where, where I do like side eye a little bit is if you are, then for whatever reason [00:34:00] going to be like, oh, I’m gonna take my fees and I’m gonna reinvest it in the coin. Like, okay, you are literally sitting on top of the pyramid, like you could not be in a better position and now you’re, but right. And now you’re literally like paying into the pyramid scheme. It’s like, this is not going to work well for you. These are rug bulls. Um, and so like the, the, the, the gas town coin like dropped like massively. The Ralph coin like dropped massively, like after the, the, the Ralph creator, I think he took out like 300 K or something and people, or, you know, sold like 300 K worth of coins. And people were like, oh, he’s pulling a rug pull. And I’m like, well, A, what did you expect? But B it’s like, this is why don’t, like, if someone’s gonna give you free money from something that’s, you know, kind of scammy, like, I’m not saying don’t take the money. I am saying maybe be smart enough to not to reinvest it into the scam. Brett: Yeah. Christina: Like, I don’t know. Anyway, that’s the only thing I will mention on that. ’cause I don’t think that that takes [00:35:00] anything away from either of those projects or it says that you shouldn’t use or play around with it either of those ideas at all. But that is just a thing that’s happened in the last couple of weeks too, where it’s like, oh, and now there’s like crypto, you know, the crypto people are trying to get kind of involved with these projects and, um, I, I think that that’s, uh, okay. You know, um, like I said, I’m, I’m not gonna judge anybody for taking free money that, that somebody is gonna offer them. I will judge you if you’re gonna try to then, you know, try to like, promote that to your audience and try to be like, oh, this is a great way where we, where you can help me and we can all get rich. It’s like, no, there are, if you really wanna support creators, like there are things like GitHub sponsors and there are like other methods that you can, you can do that, that don’t involve making financial risks on shit coins. Brett: I wish anything I made could be popular enough that I could do something that’s stupid. Yeah. Like [00:36:00] I, I, I, I’m not gonna pull a rug pull on anyone, but the chances that I’ll ever make $300,000 on anything I’m working on, it’s pretty slim. Christina: Yeah, but at the same time, like if you, if you did, if you were in that position, like, I don’t know, I mean, I guess that’d be a thing that you would have to kind of figure out, um, yourself would be like, okay, I have access to this amount of money. Am I going to try to, you know, go all in and, and maybe go full grift to get even more? Some, something tells me that like your own personal ethics would probably preclude you from that. Brett: I, um, I have spent, what, um, how old am I? 47. I, I’ve been, since I started blogging in like 1999, 2000, um, I have always adhered to a very strict code and like turning down sponsors. I didn’t agree with [00:37:00] not doing anything that would be shady. Not taking, not, not taking money from anyone I was writing about. Ethics in Journalism and Personal Dilemmas Brett: Like, it’s been, it’s a pain in the ass to try to be truly ethical, but I feel like I’ve done it for 30 some years and, and I don’t know, I wouldn’t change it. I’m not rich. I’ll never be rich. But yeah, I think ethics are important, especially if you’re in any kind of journalism. Christina: Yeah, if you’re in any sort of journalism. I think so, and I think like how people wanna define those things, I think it’s up to them. And, and like I said, like I’m not gonna even necessarily like, like judge people like for, because I, I don’t know personally like what my situation would be like. Like if somebody was like, Christina, here’s a wallet that has the equivalent of $300,000 in it and it’s just sitting here and we’re not even asking you to do anything with this. I would probably take the money. I’m not gonna lie, I don’t, I don’t, I don’t [00:38:00] know if I would promote it or anything and I maybe I would feel compelled to disclose, Hey, Brett: That is Christina: wallet belongs to me. Brett: money though. Christina: I, I, right. I, I, I might, I might be, I might feel compelled to com to, to disclose, Hey, someone created this coin in this thing. They created the foam grow coin and they are giving me, you know, the, the, the gas fees and I have accepted Brett: could be, I’d feel like you could do it if you were transparent enough about it. Christina: Yeah, I mean, I, I, I think where I draw the line is when you then go from like, because again, it’s fine if you wanna take it. It’s then when you are a. Reinvesting the free money into the coin, which I think is just idiotic. Like, I think that’s just actually dumb. Um, like I just, I just do like, that just seems like you are literally, like I said, you’re at the top of the pyramid and you’re literally like volunteering to get into the bottom again. Um, and, or, or b like if you do that and then you try to rationalize in some way, oh, well, you know, I think [00:39:00] that this could be a great thing for everybody to, you know, I get rich, you know, you could get rich, we could all get money out of this because this is the future of, you know, creator economy or whatever. It’s like, no, it’s not. This is gambling. Um, and, and, and, and you could make the argument to me, and I’d probably be persuaded to be like, this isn’t that different from poly market or any of the other sorts of things. But you know what? I don’t do those things either. And I wouldn’t promote those things to any audience that I had either. Um, but if somebody wanted to give me free money. I probably wouldn’t turn it down. I’m not gonna pretend that my ethics are, are that strong. Uh, I just don’t know if I would, if I would, uh, go on the other end and be like, okay, to the Moom, everyone let, let’s all go in on the crypto stuff. It’s like, okay, The Future of Open Source and Cryptocurrency Brett: So is this the future of open source is, ’cause I mean like open source has survived for decades as like a concept and it’s never been terribly profitable. But a [00:40:00] lot of large companies have invested in open source, and I guess at this point, like most of the big open source projects are either run by a corporation or by a foundation. Um, that are independently financed, but for a project like Gastown, like is it the future? Is this, is this something people are gonna start doing to like, kind of make open source profitable? Christina: I mean, maybe, I don’t know. I think the problem though is that it’s not necessarily predictable, right? And, and not to say that like normal donations or, or support methods are predictable, but at least that could be a thing where you’re like, they’re not, but, but, but it’s not volatile to the extent where you’re like, okay, I’m basing, you know, like my income based on how well this shit coin that someone else controls the supply of someone else, you know, uh, uh, created someone else, you know, burned, so to speak, somebody else’s is going to be, uh, [00:41:00] controlling and, and has other things and could be responsible for, you know, big seismic like market movements like that I think is very different, um, than anything else. And so, I don’t know. I mean, I, I think that they, what I do expect that we’ll see more of is more and more popular projects, things that go viral, especially around ai. Probably being approached or people like proactively creating coins around those things. And there have been some, um, developers who’ve already, you know, stood up oddly and been like, if you see anybody trying to create a coin around this, it is not associated with me. I won’t be associated with any of it. I won’t do it. Right. Uh, and I think that becomes a problem where you’re like, okay, if these things do become popular, then that becomes like another risk if you don’t wanna be involved in it. If you’re involved with a, with a popular project, right? Like the, like the, like the creator of MPM Isaac, like, I think there’s like an MPM coin now, and that, that he’s, you know, like involved in and it’s like, you know, again, he didn’t create it, but he is happy to promote it. He’s happy to take the money. I’m like, look, I’m happy for [00:42:00] Isaac to get money from NPMI am at the same time, you know, bun, which is basically like, you know, the, you know, replacement for, for Node and NPM in a lot of ways, they sold to Anthropic for. I guarantee you a fuck load more money than whatever Isaac is gonna make off of some MPM shitcoin. So, so like, it, it’s all a lottery and it’s not sustainable. But I also feel like for a lot of open source projects, and this isn’t like me saying that the people shouldn’t get paid for the work, quite the contrary. But I think if you go into it with the expectation of I’m going to be able to make a sustainable living off of something, like when you start a project, I think that that is not necessarily going to set you up for, I think that those expectations are misaligned with what reality might be, which again, isn’t to say that you shouldn’t get paid for your work, it’s just that the reason that we give back and the reason we contribute open source is to try to be part of like the, the greater good and to make things more available to everyone. Not to be [00:43:00] like, oh, I can, you know, quit my job. Like, that would be wonderful. I, I wish that more and more people could do that. And I give to a lot of, um, open source projects on, on a monthly basis or on an annual basis. Um, Brett: I, I give basically all the money that’s given to me for my open source projects I distribute among other open source projects. So it’s a, it’s a, it’s a wash for me, but yeah, I am, I, I pay, you know, five, 10 bucks a month to 20 different projects and yeah. Christina: Yeah. I mean, I think it’s important, but, but I, I don’t know. I, I, I hope that it’s not the future. I’m not mad, I think like if that’s a way where people can make, you know, a, a, an income. But I do, I guess worry the sense that like, if, if, if, I don’t want that to be, the reason why somebody would start an open source project is because they’re like, oh, I, I can get rich on a crypto thing. Right? Like, ’cause that that’s the exact wrong Brett: that’s not open source. That’s not the open source philosophy. Christina: no, [00:44:00] it’s not. And, and so, I mean, but I think, I think if it already exists, I mean, I don’t know. I, I also feel like no one should feel obligated. This should go without saying that. If you see a project that you like that is involved in one of those coins. Do you have a zero obligation to be, uh, supportive of that in any way? And in fact, it is probably in your financial best interest to not be involved. Um, it, it is your life, your money, your, you do whatever you want, gamble, however you want. But, uh, I, I, I, I do, I guess I, I bristle a little bit. Like if people try to portray it like, oh, well this is how you can support me by like buying into this thing. I’m like, okay, that’s alright. Like, I, I, if you wanna, again, like I said, if you wanna play poly market with this, fine, but don’t, don’t try to wrap that around like, oh, well this is how you can give back. It’s like, no, you can give back in other ways. Like you can do direct donations, you can do other stuff. Like I would, I would much rather encourage people to be like, rather than putting a hundred dollars in Ralph Coin, [00:45:00] give a hundred dollars to the Ralph Guy directly. Apex 1.0? Brett: So, speaking of unprofitable open source, I have Apex almost to 1.0. Um, it officially handles, I think, all of the syntax that I had hoped it would handle. Um, it does like crazy things, uh, that it’s all built on common mark, GFM, uh, like cmar, GFM, GitHub’s project. Um, so it, it does all of that. Plus it handles stuff from like M mark with like indices. Indices, and it incorporates, uh. Uh, oh, I forget the name of it. Like two different ways of creating indices. It handles all kinds of bibliography syntax, like every known bibliography syntax. Um, I just added, you can, you can create insert tags with plus, plus, uh, the same way you would create a deletion with, uh, til detail. Um, and [00:46:00] I’ve added a full plugin structure, and the plugins now can be project local. So you can have global plugins. And then if you have specific settings, so like I have a, I, my blogs are all based on cramdown and like the bunch documentation is based on cramdown, but then like the mark documentation. And most of my writing is based on multi markdown and they have different. Like the, for example, the IDs that go on headers in multi markdown. If it’s, if it has a space in multi markdown, it gets compressed to no space in common Mark or GFM, it gets a dash instead of a space, which means if I have cross links, cross references in my document, if I don’t have the right header syntax, the cross reference will break. So now I can put a, a config into like my bunch documentation that tells Apex to use, [00:47:00] um, the dash syntax. And in my Mark documentation, I can tell it to use the multi markdown syntax. And then I can just run Apex with no command line arguments and everything works. And I don’t know, I, I haven’t gotten adoption for it. Like the one place I thought it could be really useful was DEVONthink, Christina: Mm-hmm. Brett: which has always been based on multi markdown, which. Um, is I love multi markdown and I love Fletcher and, um, it’s just, it’s missing a lot of what I would consider modern syntax. Christina: Right. Brett: so I, I offered it to Devin think, and it turned out they were working on their own project along the same lines at the same time. Um, but I’m hoping to find some, some apps that will incorporate it and maybe get it some traction. It’s solid, it’s fast, it’s not as fast as common Mark, but it does twice as much. Um, like the [00:48:00] benchmarks, it a complex document renders in common mark in about. Uh, 27 milliseconds, and in Apex it’s more like 46 milliseconds. But in the grand scheme of things, I could render my whole blog 10 times faster than I can with cramm down or Panoc and yeah, and, and I can use all the syntax I want. Challenges and Innovations in Markdown Processing Brett: Did I tell you about, did I tell you about, uh, Panoc Divs? The div extension, um, like you can in with the panoc D extension, you can put colon, colon, colon instead of like back, take, back, take backtick. So normally, like back ticks would create a code block with colons, it creates a div, and you can apply, you can apply inline attribute lists after the colons to make, to give it a class and an ID and any other attributes you wanna apply to it. I extended that so that you can do colon, [00:49:00] colon, colon, and then type a tag name. So if you type colon, colon, colon aside and then applied an attribute list to it, it would create an aside tag with those attributes. Um, the, the only pan deck extension that I wish I could support that I don’t yet is grid tables. Have you ever seen grid tables? Christina: I have not. Brett: There, it’s, it’s kind of like multi markdown table syntax, except you use like plus signs for joints and uh, pipes and dashes, and you actually draw out the table like old ASCI diagrams Christina: Okay. Brett: and that would render that into a valid HTML table. But that supporting that has just been, uh, tables. Tables are the thing. I’ve pulled the most hair out over. Christina: Yeah, I was gonna say, I think I, they feel like tables are hard. I also feel like in a lot of circumstances, I mean obviously people use tables and whatnot, but like, [00:50:00] only thing I would say to you, like, you know, apex is, is so cool and I hope that other projects adopt it. Um, and, uh, potentially with the POC support as far as you’ve gotten with it, maybe, you know, projects that support some of POC stuff could, could, you know, uh, jump into it. But I will say it does feel like. Once you go into like the Panoc universe, like that almost feels like a separate thing from the markdown Flavors like that almost feels like its own like ecosystem. You know what I mean? Brett: Well, yeah, and I haven’t tried to adopt everything Panoc does because you can als, you can also use panoc. You can pipe from Apex into Panoc or vice versa. So I’m not gonna try to like one for one replicate panoc, Christina: No, no. Totally Brett: do all of panoc export options because Panoc can take HTML in and then output PDFs and Doc X and everything. So you can just pipe output from Apex into Panoc to create your PDF or whatever Christina: And like, and, and like to, [00:51:00] and like to me, like that seems ideal, right? But I feel like maybe like adopting some of the other things, especially like, like their grid, you know, table, things like that. Like that would be cool. But like, that feels like that’s a, potentially has the, has the potential, maybe slow down rendering and do other stuff which you don’t want. And then b it’s like, okay, now are we complicated to the point that like, this is, this is now not becoming like one markdown processor to rule them all, but you Brett: Yeah, the whole point, the whole point is to be able to just run Apex and not worry about what cex you’re using. Um, but grid tables are the kind of thing that are so intentional that you’re not gonna accidentally use them. Like the, the, the, the impetus for Apex was all these support requests I get from people that are like the tilde syntax for underline or delete doesn’t work in Mark. And it, it does if you choose the right processor. But then you have to know, yeah, you have to [00:52:00] know what processor supports what syntax and that takes research and time and bringing stuff in from, say, obsidian into mart. You would just kind of expect things to work. And that’s, that’s why I built Apex and Christina: right? Brett: you are correct that grid tables are the kind of thing, no one’s going to use grid tables if they haven’t specifically researched what Christina: I right. Brett: they’re gonna work with. Christina: And they’re going to have a way that has their file marked so that it is designated as poc and then whatever, you know, flags for whatever POC features it supports, um, does. Now I know that the whole point of APEX is you don’t have to worry about this, but, but I am assuming, based on kind of what you said, like if I pass like arguments like in like a, you know, in a config file or something like where I was like, these documents or, or, or this URL or these things are, you know, in this process or in this in another, then it can, it can just automatically apply those rules without having to infer based on the, on the syntax, right. Brett: right. It has [00:53:00] modes for cram down and common mark and GFM and discount, and you can like tell it what mode you’re writing in and it will limit the feature set to just what that processor would handle. Um, and then all of the flags, all of the features have neg negotiable flags on them. So if you wanted to say. Skip, uh, relax table rendering. You could turn that off on the command line or in a config file. Um, so yeah, everything, everything, you can make it behave like any particular processor. Uh, but I focus mostly on the unified mode, which again, like you don’t have to think about which processor you are using. Christina: Are you seeing, I guess like in, in circumstances like, ’cause I, in, in my, like, my experience, like, I would never think to, like, I would probably like, like to, I would probably do like what you do, which is like, I’m [00:54:00] going to use one syntax or, or one, you know, processor for one type of files and maybe another and another. Um, but I, I don’t think that like, I would ever have a, and maybe I’m misunderstanding this, but I don’t think I would ever have an instance where I would be like mixing the two together in the same file. Brett: See, that’s my, so that’s, that’s what’s changing for me is I’m switching my blog over to use Apex instead of Cramdown, which means I can now incorporate syntax that wasn’t available before. So moving forward, I am mixing, um, things from common mark, things from cram down, things from multi markdown. Um, and, and like, so once you know you have the option Christina: right. Then you might do that Brett: you have all the syntax available, you start doing it. And historically you won’t have, but like once you get used to it, then you can. Christina: Okay. So here’s the next existential question for you. At what point then does it go from being, you know, like [00:55:00] a, a, a rendering engine, kind of like an omni rendering engine to being a syntax and a flavor in and of itself? Brett: That is that, yeah, no, that’s a, that’s a very valid question and one that I have to keep asking myself, um, because I never, okay, so what to, to encapsulate what you’re saying, if you got used to writing for Apex and you were mixing your syntax, all of a sudden you have a document that can’t render in anything except Apex, which does eventually make it its own. Yeah, no, it is, it’s always, it’s a concern the whole time. Christina: well, and I, I wouldn’t even necessarily, I mean, like, and I think it could be two things, right? I mean, like, you could have it live in two worlds where, like on the one hand it could be like the rendering engine to end all rendering engines and it can render, you know, files and any of them, and you can specify like whatever, like in, in, in like a tunnel or something. Like, you know, these files are, [00:56:00] are this format, these are these, and you know, maybe have some sort of, you know, um, something, even like a header files or whatever to be like, this is what this rendering engine is. Um, you know, with, with your projects to have it, uh, do that. Um. Or have it infer, you know, based on, on, on, um, the, the logic that you’re importing. But it could also be one of those things where you’re like, okay, I just have created like, you know, the omni syntax. And that’s a thing that maybe, maybe you get people to try to encourage or try, try to adopt, right? Like, it’s like, okay, you can always just use common mark. You can always just use GFM, you can always just use multi markdown, but we support these other things too, from these other, um, systems and you can intermix and match them. Um, because, because I, I do feel like at a certain point, like at least the way you’re running it yourself, you have your own syntax. Like, like, you know. Brett: yeah. No, you have perfectly encapsulated the, the major [00:57:00] design concern. And I think you’re correct. It can exist, it can be both things at once. Um, but I have like, nobody needs another markdown syntax. Like there are so many flavors right now. Okay. There may be a dozen. It’s not like an infinite number, but, but there’s enough that the confusion is real. Um, and we don’t need yet another markdown flavor, but we do need a universal processor that. Makes the differentiations less, but yeah, no, it’s, I need, I need to nail down that philosophy, uh, and really like, put it into writing and say, this is the design goal of this project, uh, which I have like hinted at, but I’m a scattered thinker and like, part of, part of the design philosophy is if someone says, Hey, [00:58:00] could you make this work? I just wanted a project where I could say, yeah, I’m gonna make that work. I, I, I’m gonna add this somewhat esoteric syntax and it’s just gonna work and it’s not gonna affect anything else. And you don’t have to use it, but if you do, there it is. So it’s kind of, it was designed to bloat to a circuit certain extent. Um, but yeah, I need to, I need to actually write a page That’s just the philosophy and really, really, uh, put, put all my thoughts together on that. Christina: Yeah, no, ’cause I was just kind of thinking, I was like, ’cause it’s so cool. Um, but the way that I would’ve envisioned using it, like I, I still like, it’s cool that you can mix all those things in together. I still feel like I probably wouldn’t because I’m not you. And so then I would just have like this additional dependency that it’s like, okay, if something happens to Apex one day and that’s the only thing that can render my documents, then like, you know what I mean? And, and, and if it’s not getting updated [00:59:00] anymore or whatever, then I’m kind of like SOL, um, Brett: Maku. Do you remember Maku? Christina: vaguely. Brett: It’s, the project is kind of dead and a lot of its syntax has been incorporated into various other processors. But if you built your whole blog on Maku, you have to, you have to be able to run like a 7-year-old binary, um, and, and it’ll never be updated, and eventually you’re gonna run into trouble. The nice thing about Unix based stuff is it’s. Has a, you can stop developing it and it’ll work for a decade, um, until, like, there’s a major shift in processors, but like, just the shift to arm. Like if, if Maku was only ever compiled for, uh, for, uh, Intel and it wasn’t open source, you would, it would be gone. You wouldn’t be able to run it anymore. So yeah, these things can happen. Christina: [01:00:00] Well, and I just even think about like, you know, the fact that like, you know, like some of the early processors, like I remember like back, I mean this is a million years ago, but having to use like certain, like pearl, you know, based things, you know, but depending on like whatever your backend system was, then you moved to PHP, they maybe you move, moved to, you know, Ruby, if you’re using like Jekyll and maybe you move to something else. And I was like, okay, you know, what will the thing be in the future? Yeah. If, if I, if it’s open source and there’s a way that, you know, you can write a new, a new processor for that, but it does create like, dependencies on top of dependencies, which is why I, I kind of feel like I like having like the omni processor. I don’t know if, like, for me, I’m like, okay, I, I would probably be personally leery about intermingling all my different syntaxes together. Brett: to that end though, that is why I wanted it in C um, because C will probably never die. C can be compiled on just about any platform. And it can be used with, like, if you have, if you have a Jekyll blog and you wanna [01:01:00] incorporate a C program into a gem, it’s no problem. Uh, you can incorporate it into just about any. Langu

On today's episode, we discuss how collapsing national currencies—from Iran's rial to Venezuela's bolívar—are driving ordinary people into Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies as a last‑ditch store of value. Mark explains why institutional players like Vanguard and Morgan Stanley are finally recommending small crypto allocations, how ETF filings and FOMO are pushing Bitcoin higher, and why none of this should be confused with personalized investment advice. From there, the conversation moves to practical home tech: VPNs, Starlink, and why reliable local storage and good passwords still matter more than shiny gadgets when the internet goes dark. James and Mark also kick around Elon Musk's AI and robotics ambitions—Grok, xAI, Optimus, and full self‑driving Teslas—debating whether a Unix‑like, tightly controlled “Apple‑style” stack will prove safer than a more open, Windows‑like ecosystem for autonomous vehicles. A creek‑flooding scenario near James's house becomes a case study in what current self‑driving systems still miss, forcing humans to override software that cannot yet reliably interpret brown, moving water across a road. That leads into a broader discussion of how many edge cases engineers must sample before regulators will bless truly driverless cars, and why early adopters will inevitably be the ones whose mishaps teach the machines. Throughout, they keep circling back to a core theme: in both finance and transportation, new tech may be transformative, but ordinary users still have to live with the bugs, crashes, and unintended consequences of bleeding‑edge systems. Don't miss it!

The Unix v4 recovery, webzfs, openbgpd 9.0, MidnightBSD 4.0, and more... NOTES This episode of BSDNow is brought to you by Tarsnap (https://www.tarsnap.com/bsdnow) and the BSDNow Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/bsdnow) Headlines University of Utah team discovers rare computer relic (https://ksltv.com/science-technology/university-of-utah-discovers-rare-computer-relic/853296/) The attempt to read the UNIX V4 tape is underway! (https://mastodon.social/redirect/statuses/115747843746305391) UNIX V4 Tape from University of Utah (https://archive.org/details/utah_unix_v4_raw) UNIX V4 tape successfully recovered: First ever version of UNIX written in C is running again (https://www.theregister.com/2025/12/23/unix_v4_tape_successfully_recovered/) An initial analysis of the discovered Unix V4 tape (https://www.spinellis.gr/blog/20251223/) WebZFS (https://github.com/webzfs/webzfs) News Roundup OpenBGPD 9.0 released (https://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20251231070524) MidnightBSD 4.0 (https://www.midnightbsd.org/notes/4.0/index.html) Let's run FreeBSD 15.0-RELEASE on a Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W (https://briancallahan.net/blog/20251216.html) Figuring out how I want to set up the TVPC (https://vulcanridr.mataroa.blog/blog/figuring-out-how-i-want-to-set-up-the-tvpc/) TVPC update (https://vulcanridr.mataroa.blog/blog/tvpc-update/) C&C Red Alert2 in your browser (https://chronodivide.com) Tarsnap This weeks episode of BSDNow was sponsored by our friends at Tarsnap, the only secure online backup you can trust your data to. Even paranoids need backups. Feedback/Questions rick - shout out.md (https://github.com/BSDNow/bsdnow.tv/blob/master/episodes/646/feedback/rick%20-%20shout%20out.md) Send questions, comments, show ideas/topics, or stories you want mentioned on the show to feedback@bsdnow.tv (mailto:feedback@bsdnow.tv) Join us and other BSD Fans in our BSD Now Telegram channel (https://t.me/bsdnow)

Bienvenue dans le trois-centième épisode de CacaoCast! Dans cet épisode, Philippe Casgrain et Philippe Guitard discutent des sujets suivants: electricite-quebec.info - La demande provinciale au bout des doigts Electron Liquid Glass - On n'arrête pas le progrès! Swift concurrency - Enfin un guide simplifié Icônes dans les menus de Tahoe - Vous pouvez les enlever dans votre application Subtext - Un éditeur de texte pour iOS simple et gratuit Unixv4.dev - Unix original dans votre navigateur Sloppy - La nouvelle mascotte IA de Microsoft Drone et ski - Un petit film de Philippe Ecoutez cet épisode

В твоей руке сейчас устройство, которое на 60% состоит из того, что изобретено в Bell Labs и на 100% существует благодаря им. Центральный процессор и оперативная память — это миллиардов транзисторов, изобретённых в Bell Labs в 47-м. Операционная система телефона свои истоки берёт в Bell Labs, где написали Unix — будь то IOS, который и есть Unix, или Android — Linux, который вдохновлён Unix и написан, чтобы быть свободным. 69-й Сама связь — Wi-Fi, мобильная, Bluetooth — придумана в Bell Labs Клодом Шенноном в 48-м. Даже концепция использования электронных компонентов для реализации булевой алгебры — основы современных компьютеров — родом из Bell Labs — и тоже спасибо Шеннону. А всё началось в 1875 году с бага, который Александр Грэм Белл не проигнорировал, а превратил в патент. Столетняя историй уникальной компании, где тысячам инженеров и учёных дали возможность реализовать себя без требования скорейшего коммерческого успеха. Что из этого вышло, слушайте в заключительном эпизоде 4-го сезона ДНД. Оставайтесь на связи Кто мы такие: https://linkmeup.ru/about/ Пишите нам: info@linkmeup.ru Канал в телеграме: https://t.me/donasdoshlo. Приходите обсуждать и предлагать. Плейлист подкаста на Youtube Поддержите проект:

We talk with Matt Trentini, Principal Software Engineer at Planet Innovation, about using MicroPython for professional embedded development—including medical devices. Matt shares how he was drawn back to embedded development after becoming jaded with traditional C-based workflows, and explains why MicroPython's interactive REPL and rapid development cycle have become game-changers for his team.We explore the practical realities of using an interpreted language on microcontrollers: how Planet Innovation uses it for Class B medical devices, what the performance trade-offs actually look like, and how features like the Unix port enable robust testing. Matt walks us through deployment considerations, explains how to integrate C code when needed, and shares compelling stories about real-time client demos that would be impossible in C++.Whether you're skeptical about high-level languages in embedded systems or curious about alternatives to traditional development workflows, this conversation offers a grounded, engineering-focused look at what MicroPython can—and can't—do in production environments.Key Topics[03:30] Matt's background and why he left embedded development before MicroPython brought him back[08:45] What MicroPython is: a complete re-implementation of Python for microcontrollers with REPL, filesystem, and machine module[13:20] How Planet Innovation introduced MicroPython through an OpenMV vision processing project[17:15] The game-changing power of the REPL for interactive hardware development and testing[21:40] Running MicroPython code on x86 for testing, and the mock machine library approach[26:30] Python library compatibility: what works, what doesn't, and memory considerations[29:50] Integrating C and C++ code through extension modules for performance-critical sections[33:10] Performance realities: 10-100x slower in interpreter, but can always drop to C speed when needed[37:45] Tooling: MPRemote, the magical mount feature, and development workflow[42:20] When NOT to use MicroPython: cost-sensitive high-volume products and resource constraints[45:30] Using MicroPython in Class B medical devices and safety-critical applications[49:15] Garbage collection: simple, predictable, and controllable—can be disabled when needed[52:40] Real-time client demo story: modifying state machines during a call and showing results immediately[56:20] Deployment: frozen code, disabling REPL and filesystem, and OTA considerations[01:01:30] Common mistakes: logic errors and inadvertent allocations rather than memory corruption[01:05:45] Threading, AsyncIO, and the Global Interpreter Lock across different ports[01:08:20] State machine frameworks: StateChart, Yasme, and PyTransitions[01:11:40] Junior developer productivity: faster onboarding compared to C/C++ embedded development[01:15:10] Getting started: board bring-up as an ideal first use case for MicroPython[01:17:50] Hardware-in-the-loop testing as a low-risk way to try MicroPythonNotable Quotes"It's hard to overstate how game changing the REPL is. Particularly as an embedded engineer, once you see that you can interactively talk to a peripheral, you can generate your own I2C, squirt it across and see what the peripheral does with it—suddenly driver development has just become easy to experiment with." — Matt Trentini"My trite answer is that MicroPython is slow—10 to 100 times slower than C in the interpreter. But my flip side answer is that it can always be made as fast as C because you can always drop into C to write things." — Matt Trentini"There was a moment in a recent project where we were discussing the workflow of a state machine with the client, and while we were on a call, another engineer was actually making changes to MicroPython code. Literally a couple minutes after we'd been hashing out the details, they showed the changes in the state machine using the REPL. The client was blown away—in 25 years of development, I have never had that kind of turnaround in C and C++." — Matt Trentini"If you want to make a good friend of your electronics engineers, give them a build of MicroPython that can run on their custom board. In the past, they would typically be waiting for weeks or sometimes months before a software resource could be assigned. Now I can turn around a MicroPython build in a day or two, and they can test I2C, GPIOs, and UARTs themselves." — Matt Trentini"The irony is that the people who have embedded C knowledge are actually the people that can benefit the most from MicroPython. It's like having a superpower—you understand what MicroPython is doing in the background, you know you're just effectively writing a lot less code." — Matt TrentiniResources MentionedMicroPython Official Site - The official MicroPython project website with documentation and downloadsOpenMV - Computer vision project using MicroPython for camera-based applicationsMPRemote - Tool for interacting with MicroPython devices, including the magical mount featurePlanet Innovation - Medical device consultancy using MicroPython in production devicesStateChart - State machine library compatible with Python and MicroPythonYasme - Yet another state machine library developed at Planet InnovationPyTransitions - Popular Python state machine library being ported to MicroPythonCircuitPython - Adafruit's fork of MicroPython with additional features and CPython compatibility focus You can find Jeff at https://jeffgable.com.You can find Luca at https://luca.engineer.Want to join the agile Embedded Slack? Click hereAre you looking for embedded-focused trainings? Head to https://agileembedded.academy/Ryan Torvik and Luca have started the Embedded AI podcast, check it out at https://embeddedaipodcast.com/

Holidays 2025 - What you been do'in? NOTES This episode of BSDNow is brought to you by Tarsnap (https://www.tarsnap.com/bsdnow) and the BSDNow Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/bsdnow) Headlines What tech did we enjoy playing with or found interesting in 2025? Tarsnap This weeks episode of BSDNow was sponsored by our friends at Tarsnap, the only secure online backup you can trust your data to. Even paranoids need backups. Feedback/Questions - Gary - Storage Is Cheap (https://github.com/BSDNow/bsdnow.tv/blob/master/episodes/644/feedback/Gary%20-%20Storage%20Is%20Cheap.md) Send questions, comments, show ideas/topics, or stories you want mentioned on the show to feedback@bsdnow.tv (mailto:feedback@bsdnow.tv) Join us and other BSD Fans in our BSD Now Telegram channel (https://t.me/bsdnow)

After receiving an Al generated email, the programming legend (known for his work on Go, Plan 9, UNIX, & UTF-8) says, "F**k you people. Raping the planet."More from The Lunduke Journal:https://lunduke.com/ This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit lunduke.substack.com/subscribe

On this week's Film Sack Podcast, a decidedly odd couple with ulterior motives convince Dr. Grant to go to Isla Sorna for a holiday, but their unexpected landing startles the island's new inhabitants. I wonder if it will feature people running from wild dinosaurs. Oh, right. This has all the flying ones! It's a UNIX system! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On this week's Film Sack Podcast, a decidedly odd couple with ulterior motives convince Dr. Grant to go to Isla Sorna for a holiday, but their unexpected landing startles the island's new inhabitants. I wonder if it will feature people running from wild dinosaurs. Oh, right. This has all the flying ones! It's a UNIX system! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Nesse episódio trouxemos as notícias e novidades do mundo da programação que nos chamaram atenção dos dias 20/12 a 26/12.☕ Café Código FontePrograme sua xícara para o sabor certo!https://cafe.codigofonte.com.br

Nesse episódio trouxemos as notícias e novidades do mundo da programação que nos chamaram atenção dos dias 20/12 a 26/12.☕ Café Código FontePrograme sua xícara para o sabor certo!https://cafe.codigofonte.com.br

Upwrapping OpenZFS gifs, Propolice the OpenBSD Stack Protector, refreshing zpools, and the FreeBSD 15.0 release. NOTES This episode of BSDNow is brought to you by Tarsnap (https://www.tarsnap.com/bsdnow) and the BSDNow Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/bsdnow) Headlines Unwrapping ZFS: Gifts from the Open Source Community (https://klarasystems.com/articles/zfs-community-contributions-2025/?utm_source=BSD%20Now&utm_medium=Podcast) Who wins when we filter the open web through an opaque system? (https://hidde.blog/filtered-open-web/) News Roundup We can't fund our way out of the free and open source maintenance problem (https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/tech/OpenSourceFundingNotSolution) The story of Propolice, the OpenBSD stack protector (https://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20251212094310) Copying everything off a zpool, destroying it, creating a new one, and copying everything back (https://dan.langille.org/2025/12/11/copying-everything-off-a-zpool-destroying-it-creating-a-new-one-and-copying-everything-back/) All aboard the 15.0-RELEASE train! (https://vulcanridr.mataroa.blog/blog/all-aboard-the-150-release-train/) Beastie Bits Running A PDP-8 From 1965 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2r_GujSc6w) The library of time (https://libraryoftime.xyz) OPNsense 25.7.9 released (https://forum.opnsense.org/index.php?topic=49986.0) - OPNsense 25.10.1 business edition released (https://forum.opnsense.org/index.php?topic=50052.0) Tarsnap This weeks episode of BSDNow was sponsored by our friends at Tarsnap, the only secure online backup you can trust your data to. Even paranoids need backups. Feedback/Questions Martin - recordings (https://github.com/BSDNow/bsdnow.tv/blob/master/episodes/643/feedback/Martin%20-%20recording%20of%20bsdnow.md) Send questions, comments, show ideas/topics, or stories you want mentioned on the show to feedback@bsdnow.tv (mailto:feedback@bsdnow.tv) Join us and other BSD Fans in our BSD Now Telegram channel (https://t.me/bsdnow)

NOTES This episode of BSDNow is brought to you by Tarsnap (https://www.tarsnap.com/bsdnow) and the BSDNow Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/bsdnow) Headlines NOTES This episode of BSDNow is brought to you by Tarsnap (https://www.tarsnap.com/bsdnow) and the BSDNow Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/bsdnow) Headlines Is DWPD Still a Useful SSD Spec? (https://klarasystems.com/articles/is-dwpd-still-useful-ssd-spec/?utm_source=BSD%20Now&utm_medium=Podcast) Moving From Windows To FreeBSD As The Linux Chaos Alternative (https://hackaday.com/2025/11/11/moving-from-windows-to-freebsd-as-the-linux-chaos-alternative/) Computer Chronicles Revisited 131 - Open Look, OSF/Motif, Macintosh IIcx and A/UX (https://computerchronicles.blog/post/computer-chronicles-revisited-131-open-look-osf-motif-macintosh-iicx-aux/) - Submitted by listener S.M. Oliva News Roundup We haven't seen ZFS checksum failures for a couple of years (https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/solaris/ZFSOurRareChecksumFailuresII) Using FreeBSD to make self-hosting fun again (https://jsteuernagel.de/posts/using-freebsd-to-make-self-hosting-fun-again/) The usability of open source operating systems (https://posixcafe.org/blogs/2025/11/24/0/) Phoenix AZ timezone issue (https://lists.iana.org/hyperkitty/list/tz@iana.org/thread/JZTH2RBARV4YFNTNFAXBGOACAN65JPIX/) The only existing copy of UNIX v4 (https://oldbytes.space/@bitsavers/115505135441862982) Tarsnap This weeks episode of BSDNow was sponsored by our friends at Tarsnap, the only secure online backup you can trust your data to. Even paranoids need backups. Feedback/Questions Send questions, comments, show ideas/topics, or stories you want mentioned on the show to feedback@bsdnow.tv (mailto:feedback@bsdnow.tv) Join us and other BSD Fans in our BSD Now Telegram channel (https://t.me/bsdnow) Is DWPD Still a Useful SSD Spec? (https://klarasystems.com/articles/is-dwpd-still-useful-ssd-spec/?utm_source=BSD%20Now&utm_medium=Podcast) Moving From Windows To FreeBSD As The Linux Chaos Alternative (https://hackaday.com/2025/11/11/moving-from-windows-to-freebsd-as-the-linux-chaos-alternative/) Computer Chronicles Revisited 131 - Open Look, OSF/Motif, Macintosh IIcx and A/UX (https://computerchronicles.blog/post/computer-chronicles-revisited-131-open-look-osf-motif-macintosh-iicx-aux/) - Submitted by listener S.M. Oliva News Roundup We haven't seen ZFS checksum failures for a couple of years (https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/solaris/ZFSOurRareChecksumFailuresII) Using FreeBSD to make self-hosting fun again (https://jsteuernagel.de/posts/using-freebsd-to-make-self-hosting-fun-again/) The usability of open source operating systems (https://posixcafe.org/blogs/2025/11/24/0/) Phoenix AZ timezone issue (https://lists.iana.org/hyperkitty/list/tz@iana.org/thread/JZTH2RBARV4YFNTNFAXBGOACAN65JPIX/) The only existing copy of UNIX v4 (https://oldbytes.space/@bitsavers/115505135441862982) Tarsnap This weeks episode of BSDNow was sponsored by our friends at Tarsnap, the only secure online backup you can trust your data to. Even paranoids need backups. Feedback/Questions Send questions, comments, show ideas/topics, or stories you want mentioned on the show to feedback@bsdnow.tv (mailto:feedback@bsdnow.tv) Join us and other BSD Fans in our BSD Now Telegram channel (https://t.me/bsdnow)

In this episode of Hands-On IT, Landon Miles explores the history of servers and enterprise IT infrastructure, from early mainframe computers to cloud computing, Linux servers, virtualization, containers, and AI-driven data centers.This episode connects decades of server evolution into a clear, accessible story, focusing on the people, technologies, and ideas that shaped modern computing. From IBM's System/360 and minicomputers, to Unix and Linux, virtualization, cloud platforms like AWS and Azure, and container orchestration with Docker and Kubernetes, this episode explains how servers became the foundation of today's digital world.Topics covered include: • Server history and early computing systems • IBM mainframes and enterprise computing • Minicomputers and distributed computing • Unix, Linux, and open-source software • Virtualization and data center efficiency • Cloud computing and hyperscale infrastructure • Docker, Kubernetes, and cloud-native architecture • AI workloads, GPUs, and modern server hardwareLandon also highlights key figures in computing history, including Grace Hopper, Ken Olsen, Linus Torvalds, Dave Cutler, Diane Greene, and Jeff Bezos, and explains how their work still influences IT operations today.This episode is part of our December Best Of series, featuring some of our favorite moments and episodes from the past year.Originally aired March 20, 2025.

Podcast 294 of atomar audio, featuring cutting edge techno artists. This week we present you unix. from Leipzig, Germany. unix.: SC: @unix-le Visit atomar audio on Facebook: www.facebook.com/atomar.audio

In this episode, Todd and Jon discuss the latest AI agreements, updates to the Apple ecosystem (OS 26.2), and the history of PowerShell. The core discussion focuses on the "overcomplication issue" facing tech enthusiasts and offers hardware and software tips to simplify daily workflows. AI & Industry News Disney & OpenAI: The Walt Disney Company has reached an agreement to license characters to OpenAI's Sora. Google Labs: Todd joined the waitlist for "Google Disco," a tool that uses "GenTabs" to create interactive web apps and complete tasks using natural language without coding. Visual Podcasting: Todd discussed using "Nano Banana Pro" and Gemini to create visual whiteboard summaries for podcast notes. Apple OS 26.2 Updates watchOS 26.2: Features updates to Sleep Scores, which Jon notes can feel "judgmental" regarding sleep quality. iPadOS 26.2: Reintroduces multitasking features like slide over and enables "Auto Chapters" for podcasts. macOS 26.2: Introduces "Edge Light" (a virtual ring light for video calls) and "low latency clusters" for local AI development on M5 Macs. Tech History PowerShell Origins: Jeffrey Snover, creator of PowerShell, revealed in a blog post that "cmdlets" were originally named "Function Units" (FUs), reflecting the "Unix smart-ass culture" of the era. Discussion: Simplifying the Tech Stack The hosts discuss the tendency to overcomplicate setups, such as using Docker for RSS feeds or complex SSO for home use. They recommend the following simplifications: Hardware KableCARD: A credit-card-sized kit containing multiple adapters, a light, and a phone stand to replace carrying multiple cables. Presentation Remotes: Use a simple dedicated remote ($20–$30) or repurpose a Surface Pen via Bluetooth instead of relying on complex software solutions. Software Pythonista (iOS/macOS): Run simple local scripts (e.g., GPA calculators) rather than paying for dedicated subscription apps. Homebridge: A lighter-weight alternative to Home Assistant for connecting IoT devices (like Sonos) to Apple HomeKit. Troubleshooting Tip Pixel Tablet YouTube Glitch: If the YouTube app on the Pixel Tablet displays unusable, giant thumbnails, the fix is to clear both the app's cache and storage/memory.

FreeBSD 15 release, moving from OpenBSD to FreeBSD, ZFS Boot Environments explained, and more... NOTES This episode of BSDNow is brought to you by Tarsnap (https://www.tarsnap.com/bsdnow) and the BSDNow Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/bsdnow) Headlines Welcome to the world FreeBSD 15.0-RELEASE Announcement (https://www.freebsd.org/releases/15.0R/announce/) and Release Notes (https://www.freebsd.org/releases/15.0R/relnotes/) We're (now) moving from OpenBSD to FreeBSD for Firewalls (https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/sysadmin/OpenBSDToFreeBSDMove) - Submitted by listener Gary News Roundup ZFS Boot Environments Explained (https://vermaden.wordpress.com/2025/11/25/zfs-boot-environments-explained/) Why I (still) love Linux (https://it-notes.dragas.net/2025/11/24/why-i-still-love-linux/) rocinante - A configuration management tool by the BastilleBSD team (https://github.com/BastilleBSD/rocinante) A Grown-up ZFS Data Corruption Bug (https://github.com/oxidecomputer/oxide-and-friends/blob/master/2025_11_24.md) and YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srKYxF66A0c) Tarsnap This weeks episode of BSDNow was sponsored by our friends at Tarsnap, the only secure online backup you can trust your data to. Even paranoids need backups. Feedback/Questions Claudio - A Silent Reflection (https://github.com/BSDNow/bsdnow.tv/blob/master/episodes/641/feedback/Claudio%20-%20Reflection.md) Send questions, comments, show ideas/topics, or stories you want mentioned on the show to feedback@bsdnow.tv (mailto:feedback@bsdnow.tv) Join us and other BSD Fans in our BSD Now Telegram channel (https://t.me/bsdnow)

FreeBSD is an OCI runtime, ZFS Disaster Recovery, Cleaning up Hammer, and some historical information, and more... NOTES This episode of BSDNow is brought to you by Tarsnap (https://www.tarsnap.com/bsdnow) and the BSDNow Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/bsdnow) Headlines FreeBSD Officially Supported in OCI Runtime Specification v1.3 (https://freebsdfoundation.org/blog/freebsd-officially-supported-in-oci-runtime-specification-v1-3) ZFS Enabled Disaster Recovery for Virtualization (https://klarasystems.com/articles/zfs-enabled-disaster-recovery-virtualization?utm_source=BSD%20Now&utm_medium=Podcast) News Roundup How I think OpenZFS's 'written' and 'written@' dataset properties work (https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/solaris/ZFSWrittenPropertyHowItWorks) Make sure your Hammer cleanup cleans up (https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2025/11/13/make-sure-your-hammer-cleanup-cleans-up) [TUHS] David C Brock of CHM: 2024 oral history with Ken Thompson + Doug McIlroy (https://www.tuhs.org/pipermail/tuhs/2025-November/032751.html) Special Issue “Celebrating 60 Years of ELIZA? Critical Pasts and Futures of AI” (https://ojs.weizenbaum-institut.de/index.php/wjds/announcement/view/8) Source and state limiters introduced in pf (https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20251112132639) Tarsnap This weeks episode of BSDNow was sponsored by our friends at Tarsnap, the only secure online backup you can trust your data to. Even paranoids need backups. Feedback/Questions Göran - grafana (https://github.com/BSDNow/bsdnow.tv/blob/master/episodes/640/feedback/G%C3%B6ran%20-%20grafana.md) Send questions, comments, show ideas/topics, or stories you want mentioned on the show to feedback@bsdnow.tv (mailto:feedback@bsdnow.tv) Join us and other BSD Fans in our BSD Now Telegram channel (https://t.me/bsdnow)

In this wildly cosmic and deeply grounded episode of Third Eye Roll, Justine and Emily dive headfirst into the psychedelic storm of Rahu entering Shatabishaka—the star of 100 healers, 100 illusions, and the shadow scientist inside all of us. Cue spiritual hypochondria, Google-diagnosed awakenings, black-bug omens, and one extremely on-theme tick encounter.With Saturn finally moving direct in Pisces and Mercury straightening itself out, the grown-ups have walked back into the room… and they're asking whether your healing journey is medicine or madness (spoiler: sometimes both).Expect couture lab coats, futuristic headpieces, Rahu-coded fashion, AI expansions, ascension-syndrome snark (“You're not ascending, you're just ungrounded”), plus a detour into Woodstock 1969, the Unix epoch, MAS*H, and why the universe apparently wants us all to become low-key engineers of our own psyche.Justine closes with the myth of Matsya and the Great Flood, revealing how Saturn in Pisces is the steady hand that pulls us through dissolution into renewal.Stay to the end for Yatra gossip, Spain retreat teasers, and the most Rahu-coded sign-off ever.

Reproducible builds, Highly available ZFS Pools, Self Hosting on a Framework Laptop, and more... NOTES This episode of BSDNow is brought to you by Tarsnap (https://www.tarsnap.com/bsdnow) and the BSDNow Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/bsdnow) Headlines FreeBSD now builds reproducibly and without root privilege (https://freebsdfoundation.org/blog/freebsd-now-builds-reproducibly-and-without-root-privilege) How to Set Up a Highly Available ZFS Pool Using Mirroring and iSCSI (https://klarasystems.com/articles/highly-available-zfs-pool-setup-with-iscsi-mirroring?utm_source=BSD%20Now&utm_medium=Podcast) News Roundup Self hosting 10TB in S3 on a framework laptop + disks (https://jamesoclaire.com/2025/10/05/self-hosting-10tb-in-s3-on-a-framework-laptop-disks/) Crucial FreeBSD Toolkit (https://vermaden.wordpress.com/2025/07/08/crucial-freebsd-toolkit/) Some notes on OpenZFS's 'written' dataset property (https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/solaris/ZFSSnapshotWrittenProperty) vi improvements on Dragonfly (https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2025/10/28/vi-improvements) Big news for small /usr partitions (https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20251112121631) Tarsnap This weeks episode of BSDNow was sponsored by our friends at Tarsnap, the only secure online backup you can trust your data to. Even paranoids need backups. Feedback/Questions Patrick - Feedback (https://github.com/BSDNow/bsdnow.tv/blob/master/episodes/639/feedback/patrick%20-%20notes.md) Send questions, comments, show ideas/topics, or stories you want mentioned on the show to feedback@bsdnow.tv (mailto:feedback@bsdnow.tv) Join us and other BSD Fans in our BSD Now Telegram channel (https://t.me/bsdnow)

New Open Indiana Release, Understanding Storage Performance, a Unix OS for the TI99, FreeBSD Tribal knowledge, and more... NOTES This episode of BSDNow is brought to you by Tarsnap (https://www.tarsnap.com/bsdnow) and the BSDNow Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/bsdnow) Headlines Signifier flotation devices (https://davidyat.es/2025/09/27/signifier-flotation-devices) Open Indiana Hipster Announcement (https://openindiana.org/announcements/openindiana-hipster-2025-10-announcement/) Understanding Storage Performance Metrics (https://klarasystems.com/articles/understanding-storage-performance-metrics?utm_source=BSD%20Now&utm_medium=Podcast) News Roundup UNIX99, a UNIX-like OS for the TI-99/4A (https://forums.atariage.com/topic/380883-unix99-a-unix-like-os-for-the-ti-994a) Making the veb(4) virtual Ethernet bridge VLAN aware (https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20251029114507) FreeBSD tribal knowledge: minor version upgrades (https://vulcanridr.mataroa.blog/blog/freebsd-tribal-knowledge-minor-version-upgrades) It's been 10 years since ZFS's 10th aniversary its integration into Solaris - A Reflection (https://blogs.oracle.com/oracle-systems/post/happy-10th-birthday-zfs) Tarsnap This weeks episode of BSDNow was sponsored by our friends at Tarsnap, the only secure online backup you can trust your data to. Even paranoids need backups. Feedback/Questions Send questions, comments, show ideas/topics, or stories you want mentioned on the show to feedback@bsdnow.tv (mailto:feedback@bsdnow.tv) Join us and other BSD Fans in our BSD Now Telegram channel (https://t.me/bsdnow)

It's a wet November evening across Western Europe, the steel-grey clouds have obscured a rare low-latitude aurora this week, and Elliot Williams is joined by Jenny List for this week's podcast. And we've got a fine selection for your listening pleasure! The 2025 Component Abuse Challenge has come to an end, so this week you'll be hearing about a few of the entries. We've received an impressive number, and as always we're bowled over by the ingenuity of Hackaday readers in pushing parts beyond their limits. In the news is the potential discovery of a lost UNIX version in a dusty store room at the University of Utah, Version 4 of the OS, which appeared in 1973. Check out your own stores, for hidden nuggets of gold. In the hacks, we have two cameras at the opposite end of the resolution spectrum, but sharing some impressive reverse engineering. Mouse cameras and scanner cameras were both a thing a couple of decades ago, and it's great to see people still pushing the boundaries. Then we look at the challenge of encoding Chinese text as Morse code, an online-upgraded multimeter, the art of making lenses for an LED lighting effect, and what must be the best recreation of a Star Wars light sabre we have ever seen. In quick hacks we have a bevvy of Component Abuse Challenge projects, a Minecraft server on a smart light bulb, and a long term test of smartphone battery charging techniques. We round off with a couple of our long-form pieces, first the uncertainties about iRobot's future and what it might mean for their ecosystem -- think: cheap hackable robotics platform! -- and then a look at FreeBSD as an alternative upgrade path for Windows users. It's a path not without challenges, but the venerable OS still has plenty to give. As always, check out the links to all the articles over on Hackaday.

เคยสงสัยไหมว่า โลกเทคโนโลยีที่เราใช้อยู่ทุกวันนี้ มันมีหน้าตาเป็นแบบนี้มาได้ยังไง ทำไมระบบปฏิบัติการบนมือถือส่วนใหญ่ ถึงมีแค่ iOS กับ Android ทำไมคอมพิวเตอร์ที่เราใช้ ถึงมีแค่ Windows กับ macOS มันดูเหมือนเป็นสงครามที่สู้กันจนเหลือผู้ชนะไม่กี่ราย แต่ย้อนกลับไปในอดีต ในยุค 80 มันเคยมีสงครามที่ดุเดือดกว่านั้นมาก เป็นสงครามที่ไม่ได้สู้กันด้วยอาวุธ แต่สู้กันด้วยโค้ดคอมพิวเตอร์ เป็นสงครามที่เปลี่ยนโฉมหน้าอุตสาหกรรมคอมพิวเตอร์ไปตลอดกาล และเป็นสงครามที่… พูดตามตรง… เละเทะมาก นี่คือเรื่องราวของ “สงคราม Unix” เลือกฟังกันได้เลยนะครับ อย่าลืมกด Follow ติดตาม PodCast ช่อง Geek Forever's Podcast ของผมกันด้วยนะครับ #UnixWars #Unix #ประวัติคอมพิวเตอร์ #ระบบปฏิบัติการ #OS #Linux #BSD #Microsoft #ATT #SunMicrosystems #สงครามเทคโนโลยี #ประวัติศาสตร์ #รอบรู้ไอที #ไอที #TechHistory #SystemV #OSWar #GNU #WindowsNT #geekstory #geekforeverpodcast

Thunderbolt on FreeBSD, ZFS on Illumos and Linux and FreeBSD, ZFS Compression, Home networking monitoring, LibreSSH and OpenSSH releases and more... NOTES This episode of BSDNow is brought to you by Tarsnap (https://www.tarsnap.com/bsdnow) and the BSDNow Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/bsdnow) Headlines Thunderbolt on FreeBSD (https://blog.feld.me/posts/2025/10/thunderbolt-on-freebsd) The broad state of ZFS on Illumos, Linux, and FreeBSD (as I understand it) (https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/solaris/ZFSOnIllumosLinuxAndFreeBSD) News Roundup zfs: setting compression and adding new vdevs (https://dan.langille.org/2025/10/18/zfs-setting-compression-and-adding-new-vdevs) The hunt for a home network monitoring solution (https://vulcanridr.mataroa.blog/blog/the-hunt-for-a-home-network-monitoring-solution) LibreSSL 4.2.0 Released (https://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20251015043527) OpenSSH 10.2 released (https://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20251010131052) - Related to 10.x versions : Post-Quantum Cryptography (https://www.openssh.com/pq.html) Check your IP infos using nginx (https://www.tumfatig.net/2025/check-your-ip-infos-using-nginx) Experimenting with Compression (just given an overview, I dont exepect you to read the all three writeups fully) Experimenting with compression off (https://dan.langille.org/2025/10/06/experimenting-with-compression-off/) Experimenting with compression=lz4 (https://dan.langille.org/2025/10/06/experimenting-with-compressionlz4/) Experimenting with compression=zstd (https://dan.langille.org/2025/10/06/experimenting-with-compressionzstd/) Compression results (https://dan.langille.org/2025/10/06/compression-results) Tarsnap This weeks episode of BSDNow was sponsored by our friends at Tarsnap, the only secure online backup you can trust your data to. Even paranoids need backups. Feedback/Questions Anton - Boxybsd (https://github.com/BSDNow/bsdnow.tv/blob/master/episodes/636/feedback/anton%20-%20boxybsd.md) Send questions, comments, show ideas/topics, or stories you want mentioned on the show to feedback@bsdnow.tv (mailto:feedback@bsdnow.tv) Join us and other BSD Fans in our BSD Now Telegram channel (https://t.me/bsdnow)

OpenBSD 7.8, Building Enterprise Storage with Proxmox, SSD performance, Virtual Machines and more... NOTES This episode of BSDNow is brought to you by Tarsnap (https://www.tarsnap.com/bsdnow) and the BSDNow Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/bsdnow) Headlines OpenBSD 7.8 Released (https://www.openbsd.org/78.html) also (https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20251022025822) and (https://bsd.network/@brynet/115403567146395679) Building Enterprise-Grade Storage on Proxmox with ZFS (https://klarasystems.com/articles/building-enterprise-grade-storage-on-proxmox-with-zfs) News Roundup [TUHS] Was artifacts, now ethernet (https://www.tuhs.org/pipermail/tuhs/2025-July/032268.html) I wish SSDs gave you CPU performance style metrics about their activity (https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/tech/SSDWritePerfMetricsWish) Migrate a KVM virtual machine to OmniOS bhyve (https://www.tumfatig.net/2025/migrate-a-kvm-virtual-machine-to-omnios-bhyve) Tarsnap This weeks episode of BSDNow was sponsored by our friends at Tarsnap, the only secure online backup you can trust your data to. Even paranoids need backups. Feedback/Questions brad - bhyve (https://github.com/BSDNow/bsdnow.tv/blob/master/episodes/635/feedback/brad%20-%20bhyve.md) Send questions, comments, show ideas/topics, or stories you want mentioned on the show to feedback@bsdnow.tv (mailto:feedback@bsdnow.tv) Join us and other BSD Fans in our BSD Now Telegram channel (https://t.me/bsdnow)

Why Self-host?, Advanced ZFS Dataset Management, Building a Simple Router with OpenBSD, Minimal pkgbase jails / chroots, WSL-For-FreeBSD, Yubico yubikey 5 nfc on FreeBSD, The Q3 2025 Issue of the FreeBSD Journal, and more NOTES This episode of BSDNow is brought to you by Tarsnap (https://www.tarsnap.com/bsdnow) and the BSDNow Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/bsdnow) Headlines Why Self-host? (https://romanzipp.com/blog/why-a-homelab-why-self-host) Advanced ZFS Dataset Management: Snapshots, Clones, and Bookmarks (https://klarasystems.com/articles/advanced-zfs-dataset-management/) News Roundup Building a Simple Router with OpenBSD (https://btxx.org/posts/openbsd-router/) Minimal pkgbase jails / chroots (https://forums.FreeBSD.org/threads/minimal-pkgbase-jails-chroots-docker-oci-like.99512/) WSL-For-FreeBSD (https://github.com/BalajeS/WSL-For-FreeBSD) Yubico yubikey 5 nfc on FreeBSD (https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/yubico-yubikey-5-nfc-on-freebsd.99529) The Q3 2025 Issue of the FreeBSD Journal is Now Available (https://freebsdfoundation.org/blog/the-q3-2025-issue-of-the-freebsd-journal-is-now-available/) Tarsnap This weeks episode of BSDNow was sponsored by our friends at Tarsnap, the only secure online backup you can trust your data to. Even paranoids need backups. Send questions, comments, show ideas/topics, or stories you want mentioned on the show to feedback@bsdnow.tv (mailto:feedback@bsdnow.tv) Join us and other BSD Fans in our BSD Now Telegram channel (https://t.me/bsdnow)

Go 1.25.3 and 1.24.9 released

ZFS Features, Roadmap, and Innovations, Magical systems thinking, How VMware's Debt-Fueled Acquisition Is Killing Open Source, OpenSSH 10.1 Released, KDE Plasma 6 Wayland on FreeBSD, Unix Co-Creator Brian Kernighan on Rust, Distros and NixOS, Balkanization of the Internet, GhostBSD 25.02 adds 'Gershwin' desktop for a Mac-like twist, and more NOTES This episode of BSDNow is brought to you by Tarsnap (https://www.tarsnap.com/bsdnow) and the BSDNow Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/bsdnow) Headlines What the Future Brings – ZFS Features, Roadmap, and Innovations (https://klarasystems.com/articles/zfs-new-features-roadmap-innovations?utm_source=BSD%20Now&utm_medium=Podcast) Magical systems thinking (https://worksinprogress.co/issue/magical-systems-thinking) The $69 Billion Domino Effect: How VMware's Debt-Fueled Acquisition Is Killing Open Source, One Repository at a Time (https://fastcode.io/2025/08/30/the-69-billion-domino-effect-how-vmwares-debt-fueled-acquisition-is-killing-open-source-one-repository-at-a-time) News Roundup OpenSSH 10.1 Released (https://www.openssh.com/txt/release-10.1) KDE Plasma 6 Wayland on FreeBSD (https://euroquis.nl/kde/2025/09/07/wayland.html) Unix Co-Creator Brian Kernighan on Rust, Distros and NixOS (https://thenewstack.io/unix-co-creator-brian-kernighan-on-rust-distros-and-nixos) GhostBSD 25.02 adds 'Gershwin' desktop for a Mac-like twist (https://www.theregister.com/2025/08/27/ghostbsd_2502/) Beastie Bits Adventures in porting a Wayland Compositor to NetBSD and OpenBSD by Jeff Frasca (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oo_8gnWQ4xo) Tarsnap This weeks episode of BSDNow was sponsored by our friends at Tarsnap, the only secure online backup you can trust your data to. Even paranoids need backups. Feedback/Questions Kylen - CVEs (https://github.com/BSDNow/bsdnow.tv/blob/master/episodes/633/feedback/Kylen%20-%20CVEs.md) Send questions, comments, show ideas/topics, or stories you want mentioned on the show to feedback@bsdnow.tv (mailto:feedback@bsdnow.tv) Join us and other BSD Fans in our BSD Now Telegram channel (https://t.me/bsdnow)

This seminar examines the challenges of securing Linux (and legacy UNIX) systems in heterogenous enterprise environments, where cohabitant Windows infrastructure often dictates corporate security focus, resources, and tooling. Drawing on experiences across academia, large industry, and more modestly-sized startups, Sharp will highlight practical strategies, open source approaches, and mindset shifts needed to effectively protect Linux in a Windows-centric security landscape. About the speaker: Matthew Sharp has dedicated over two decades to securing UNIX and Linux servers across diverse environments of widely varying scale and complexity, in roles encompassing systems and network administration, red team contract work, and system and security engineering. Presently, he serves as a Principal Engineer at Toyota Motor North America with their Cyber Defensive Services group. His extensive experience has provided firsthand insights into the challenges associated with securing Linux systems in environments where Windows typically dominates both infrastructure and security investments. Sharp is particularly interested in advancing practical, open-source-driven approaches to Linux security and fostering a mindset that empowers practitioners to take proactive steps in addressing problems that mainstream security tools often overlook.

zipbomb defeated, Optimizing ZFS for High-Throughput Storage Workloads, Open Source is one person, Omada SDN Controller on FreeBSD, Building a Simple Router with OpenBSD, Back to the origins, Enhancing Support for NAT64 Protocol Translation in NetBSD, and more NOTES This episode of BSDNow is brought to you by Tarsnap (https://www.tarsnap.com/bsdnow) and the BSDNow Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/bsdnow) Headlines zipbomb defeated (https://www.reddit.com/r/openzfs/comments/1niu6h7/when_a_decompression_zip_bomb_meets_zfs_19_pb/) Optimizing ZFS for High-Throughput Storage Workloads (https://klarasystems.com/articles/optimizing-zfs-for-high-throughput-storage-workloads?utm_source=BSD%20Now&utm_medium=Podcast) News Roundup Open Source is one person (https://opensourcesecurity.io/2025/08-oss-one-person) Omada SDN Controller on FreeBSD (https://blog.feld.me/posts/2025/08/omada-on-freebsd) Back to the origins (https://failsafe.monster/posts/another-world/) Google Summer of Code 2025 Reports: Enhancing Support for NAT64 Protocol Translation in NetBSD (http://blog.netbsd.org/tnf/entry/gsoc2025_nat64_protocol_translation) Undeadly Bits j2k25 - OpenBSD Hackathon Japan 2025 (http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20250601104254) OpenSSH will now adapt IP QoS to actual sessions and traffic (http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20250818113047) Preliminary support for Raspberry Pi 5 (https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20250903064251) OpenBSD enters 7.8-beta (https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20250911045955) Full BSDCan 2025 video playlist(s) available (https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20250912124932) OpenBGPD 8.9 released (https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20250926141610) Tarsnap This weeks episode of BSDNow was sponsored by our friends at Tarsnap, the only secure online backup you can trust your data to. Even paranoids need backups. Feedback/Questions Brad - a few things (https://github.com/BSDNow/bsdnow.tv/blob/master/episodes/632/feedback/Brad%20-%20a%20few%20things.md) Send questions, comments, show ideas/topics, or stories you want mentioned on the show to feedback@bsdnow.tv (mailto:feedback@bsdnow.tv) Join us and other BSD Fans in our BSD Now Telegram channel (https://t.me/bsdnow)

What happens when AI stops being a product and starts being a platform?With OpenAI's latest Dev Day changing the game, we might find out sooner rather than later. In this episode, Chris and Yaniv explore OpenAI's Dev Day and the huge announcements made (including the Sora 2 launch), as well as their apparent transformation from product to platform. In other tech news, the guys dive into Anthropic's open-source counterpunch with Claude's Agent SDK, along with Apple's controversial censorship call - all while analyzing what all of this means for startup founders building in the AI era.In this episode, you will:Understand how SDK, OpenAI's new ChatGPT App, turns AI into a full developer ecosystemLearn about “platform risk”,and how founders can avoid being crushed by itCompare OpenAI's walled-garden strategy to Anthropic's open, Unix-inspired approachExamine the launch of Sora, OpenAI's new AI video social network, and why it mattersDebate whether large tech companies can ever succeed in building new social platformsAnalyze Apple's ICE Block takedown and what it says about censorship in curated ecosystemsThe Pact Honor the Startup Podcast Pact! If you have listened to TSP and gotten value from it, please:Follow, rate, and review us in your listening appSubscribe to the TSP Mailing List to gain access to exclusive newsletter-only content and early access to information on upcoming episodes: https://thestartuppodcast.beehiiv.com/subscribe Secure your official TSP merchandise at https://shop.tsp.show/  Follow us here on YouTube for full-video episodes: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNjm1MTdjysRRV07fSf0yGg Give us a public shout-out on LinkedIn or anywhere you have a social media followingKey linksGet your question in for our next Q&A episode: https://forms.gle/NZzgNWVLiFmwvFA2A The Startup Podcast website: https://www.tsp.show/episodes/Learn more about Chris and YanivWork 1:1 with Chris: http://chrissaad.com/advisory/  Follow Chris on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrissaad/  Follow Yaniv on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ybernstein/Producer: Justin McArthur https://www.linkedin.com/in/justin-mcarthurIntro Voice: Jeremiah Owyang https://web-strategist.com/

video: https://youtu.be/GWF9d5CDF9g Sponsored by Sandfly Security: the revolutionary agentless platform designed for Linux. Visit https://destinationlinux.net/sandfly to experience security that's not just effective but gives you peace of mind. No agents. No downtime. Just cutting-edge protection. In this episode of Destination Linux, the team dives into global privacy laws and how the UK's proposed child protection and filtering systems could reshape the internet as we know it. Ryan breaks down Google's latest developer decree that threatens the very existence of F-Droid and other open-source Android app stores, while Jill takes us on a nostalgic journey through her boxed Linux collection—from Red Hat 5 to Corel Linux and Mandrake 7.0. Nate wraps things up with a look at Samsung's bizarre decision to push advertisements on $1,800 smart refrigerators. Privacy, history, and a little bit of corporate absurdity all collide in this week's show. Forum Discussion Thread (https://destinationlinux.net/forum) Download as MP3 (https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/32f28071-0b08-4ea1-afcc-37af75bd83d6/14fee361-101b-4f8f-834b-68c94975eedc.mp3) Support the show by becoming a patron at tuxdigital.com/membership (https://tuxdigital.com/membership) or get some swag at tuxdigital.com/store (https://tuxdigital.com/store) Hosted by: Ryan (DasGeek) = dasgeek.net (https://dasgeek.net) Jill Bryant = jilllinuxgirl.com (https://jilllinuxgirl.com) Michael Tunnell = michaeltunnell.com (https://michaeltunnell.com) Chapters: 00:00:00 Intro 00:02:58 Update on Michael & The Two-Week Hiatus 00:05:12 Community Feedback: UK Privacy Laws & Router Control 00:23:09 Sponsor: Sandfly Security 00:25:30 Is Google Killing F-Droid? Android's Open Source Dilemma 00:43:18 Jill's Treasure Hunt: Unboxing Classic Linux Distros 00:45:50 Red Hat 5.0 Hurricane: The Shift from UNIX to FOSS 00:53:29 Corel Linux OS: Industry Graphics and the Wine Breakthrough 01:07:29 Linux Mandrake 7.0: The Distro That Detected Your Sound Card 01:15:06 Treasure Hunt Wrap Up 01:15:35 Samsung's Ad-Riddled ,800 Refrigerator 01:40:44 Over Time 01:41:44 Support the Show 01:43:35 Outro 01:44:36 Post Show Links: Community Feedback https://destinationlinux.net/comments (https://destinationlinux.net/comments) https://destinationlinux.net/forum (https://destinationlinux.net/forum) Sandfly Security https://destinationlinux.net/sandfly (https://destinationlinux.net/sandfly) Is Google Killing F-Droid? Android's Open Source Dilemma https://f-droid.org/en/2025/09/29/google-developer-registration-decree.html (https://f-droid.org/en/2025/09/29/google-developer-registration-decree.html) Samsung's Ad-Riddled ,800 Refrigerator https://fortune.com/2025/09/19/samsung-family-hub-refrigerators-advertisements/ (https://fortune.com/2025/09/19/samsung-family-hub-refrigerators-advertisements/) Support the Show https://tuxdigital.com/membership (https://tuxdigital.com/membership) https://store.tuxdigital.com/ (https://store.tuxdigital.com/) Special Guests: Nathan Wolf and Wendy Hill.

FreeBSD Foundation Q2 2025 Status Update, Keeping Data Safe with OpenZFS, Ollama on FreeBSD Using GPU Passthrough, ClonOS, Preliminary support for Raspberry Pi 5, Sylve: Manage bhyve VMs and Clusters on FreeBSD, Preventing Systemd DHCP RELEASE Behavior, Call for testing - Samba 4.22, and more

This is a recap of the top 10 posts on Hacker News on October 01, 2025. This podcast was generated by wondercraft.ai (00:30): Jane Goodall has diedOriginal post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45441069&utm_source=wondercraft_ai(01:54): Show HN: Autism SimulatorOriginal post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45438346&utm_source=wondercraft_ai(03:18): CDC File TransferOriginal post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45433768&utm_source=wondercraft_ai(04:42): Don't avoid workplace politicsOriginal post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45440571&utm_source=wondercraft_ai(06:06): I only use Google SheetsOriginal post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45435463&utm_source=wondercraft_ai(07:30): Building the heap: racking 30 petabytes of hard drives for pretrainingOriginal post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45438496&utm_source=wondercraft_ai(08:54): TigerBeetle is a most interesting databaseOriginal post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45436534&utm_source=wondercraft_ai(10:18): Our efforts, in part, define usOriginal post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45435825&utm_source=wondercraft_ai(11:42): Unix philosophy and filesystem access makes Claude Code amazingOriginal post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45437893&utm_source=wondercraft_ai(13:06): Solar leads EU electricity generation as renewables hit 54%Original post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45440387&utm_source=wondercraft_aiThis is a third-party project, independent from HN and YC. Text and audio generated using AI, by wondercraft.ai. Create your own studio quality podcast with text as the only input in seconds at app.wondercraft.ai. Issues or feedback? We'd love to hear from you: team@wondercraft.ai

Converting Timestamps in .bash_history Unix shells offer the ability to add timestamps to commands in the .bash_history file. This is often done in the form of Unix timestamps. This new tool converts these timestamps into a more readable format. https://isc.sans.edu/diary/New%20tool%3A%20convert-ts-bash-history.py/32324 Cisco ASA/FRD Compromises Exploitation of the vulnerabilities Cisco patched last week may have bone back about a year. Cisco and CISA have released advisories with help identifying affected devices. https://sec.cloudapps.cisco.com/security/center/resources/asa_ftd_continued_attacks https://www.cisa.gov/news-events/directives/ed-25-03-identify-and-mitigate-potential-compromise-cisco-devices Github Notification Phishing Github notifications are used to impersonate YCombinator and trick victims into installing a crypto drainer. https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/github-notifications-abused-to-impersonate-y-combinator-for-crypto-theft/

Secure Boot for FreeBSD, Systems lie about their proper functioning, Teching the tech and rushing the endorphins, Passing a Device Into A FreeBSD Jail With A Stable Name, ZFS snapshots aren't as immutable as I thought, due to snapshot metadata, Let's write a peephole optimizer for QBE's arm64 backend, Migrate a Peertube instance from Debian to FreeBSD, and more NOTES This episode of BSDNow is brought to you by Tarsnap (https://www.tarsnap.com/bsdnow) and the BSDNow Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/bsdnow) Headlines Secure Boot for FreeBSD (https://forums.FreeBSD.org/threads/how-to-set-up-secure-boot-for-freebsd.99169/) The Fundamental Failure-Mode Theorem: Systems lie about their proper functioning (https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20250716-00/?p=111383) News Roundup Teching the tech and rushing the endorphins (https://vulcanridr.mataroa.blog/blog/teching-the-tech-and-rushing-the-endorphins) Passing a Device Into A FreeBSD Jail With A Stable Name (https://blog.feld.me/posts/2025/09/passing-device-freebsd-jail-with-stable-name/) ZFS snapshots aren't as immutable as I thought, due to snapshot metadata (https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/solaris/ZFSSnapshotsNotFullyImmutable) Let's write a peephole optimizer for QBE's arm64 backend (https://briancallahan.net/blog/20250901.html) Migrate a Peertube instance from Debian to FreeBSD (https://www.tumfatig.net/2025/migrate-a-peertube-instance-from-debian-to-freebsd) Tarsnap This weeks episode of BSDNow was sponsored by our friends at Tarsnap, the only secure online backup you can trust your data to. Even paranoids need backups. Feedback/Questions -Steve - Interviews (https://github.com/BSDNow/bsdnow.tv/blob/master/631/feedback/Steve%20-%20Interviews.md) Send questions, comments, show ideas/topics, or stories you want mentioned on the show to feedback@bsdnow.tv (mailto:feedback@bsdnow.tv) Join us and other BSD Fans in our BSD Now Telegram channel (https://t.me/bsdnow)

The Death of Industrial Design, Host naming Convensions, Symbian reflections, bash timeouts, nvme vs ssds, a system to organize your life, and more. NOTES This episode of BSDNow is brought to you by Tarsnap (https://www.tarsnap.com/bsdnow) and the BSDNow Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/bsdnow) Headlines The Death Of Industrial Design And The Era Of Dull Electronics (https://hackaday.com/2025/07/23/the-death-of-industrial-design-and-the-era-of-dull-electronics) Host Naming Convention (https://vulcanridr.mataroa.blog/blog/host-naming-convention) News Roundup Open, free, and completely ignored: The strange afterlife of Symbian (https://www.theregister.com/2025/07/17/symbian_forgotten_foss_phone_os/) TIL: timeout in Bash scripts (https://heitorpb.github.io/bla/timeout/) It seems like NVMe SSDs have overtaken SATA SSDs for high capacities (https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/tech/NVMeOvertakingSATAForSSDs) A system to organise your life (https://johnnydecimal.com) Tarsnap This weeks episode of BSDNow was sponsored by our friends at Tarsnap, the only secure online backup you can trust your data to. Even paranoids need backups. Feedback/Questions - Nelson - Books (https://github.com/BSDNow/bsdnow.tv/blob/master/629/feedback/Nelson%20-%20books.md) Send questions, comments, show ideas/topics, or stories you want mentioned on the show to feedback@bsdnow.tv (mailto:feedback@bsdnow.tv) Join us and other BSD Fans in our BSD Now Telegram channel (https://t.me/bsdnow)

Simon Ritter has been in the IT industry for 40 years. He went from university to work on Unix in the early days, employed by AT&T and programming in the C language. In 1996, he switched gears to join Sun Microsystems, programming in Java. Years later, after the Oracle transition, he started to dig into what might be next. Outside of tech, he is married with an older son. He is a complete petro-head - meaning, he is really into cars. In fact, in the last few years, he and his son re-built a classic mini from the ground up.While Simon was at Oracle, he started to crave a different opportunity, but still in the Java space. He stumbled upon a company digging into powering the Java platform, to make it the most secure, efficient and trusted platform on the planet - and he, and the company, found a great fit.This is Simon's creation story at Azul.SponsorsFull ScalePaddle.comSema SoftwarePropelAuthPostmanMeilisearchLinkshttps://www.azul.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/siritter/Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/code-story-insights-from-startup-tech-leaders/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

The Hype is the Product, Programmers Aren't So Humble Anymore—Maybe Because Nobody Codes in Perl, Is OpenBSD 10x faster than Linux?, How to install FreeBSD on providers that don't support it with mfsBSD, SSHX, Zvault Status Update, and more NOTES This episode of BSDNow is brought to you by Tarsnap (https://www.tarsnap.com/bsdnow) and the BSDNow Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/bsdnow) Headlines The Hype is the Product (https://rys.io/en/180.html) Programmers Aren't So Humble Anymore—Maybe Because Nobody Codes in Perl (https://www.wired.com/story/programmers-arent-humble-anymore-nobody-codes-in-perl) News Roundup Is OpenBSD 10x faster than Linux? (https://flak.tedunangst.com/post/is-OpenBSD-10x-faster-than-Linux) How to install FreeBSD on providers that don't support it with mfsBSD (https://it-notes.dragas.net/2025/07/02/install_freebsd_providers_mfsbsd/) SSHX (https://github.com/ekzhang/sshx) Zvault Status Update (https://github.com/zvaultio/Community/blob/main/posts/2025-07-13.md) Undeadly Bits 4096 colours and flashing text on the console! (http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20250705081315) Font caching no longer runs as root (http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20250717061920) OpenSSH will now adapt IP QoS to actual sessions and traffic (http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20250818113047) Tarsnap This weeks episode of BSDNow was sponsored by our friends at Tarsnap, the only secure online backup you can trust your data to. Even paranoids need backups. Feedback/Questions Send questions, comments, show ideas/topics, or stories you want mentioned on the show to feedback@bsdnow.tv (mailto:feedback@bsdnow.tv) Join us and other BSD Fans in our BSD Now Telegram channel (https://t.me/bsdnow)

An (almost) catastrophic OpenZFS bug, crawler plague and the fragility of the web, Classic CDE (Common Desktop Environment) coming to OpenBSD, Some notes on DMARC policy inheritance and a gotcha, GNAT (Ada) is in fact fully supported on illumos, Eighteen Years of Greytrapping, and more NOTES This episode of BSDNow is brought to you by Tarsnap (https://www.tarsnap.com/bsdnow) and the BSDNow Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/bsdnow) Headlines An (almost) catastrophic OpenZFS bug and the humans that made it (and Rust is here too) (https://despairlabs.com/blog/posts/2025-07-10-an-openzfs-bug-and-the-humans-that-made-it) The current (2025) crawler plague and the fragility of the web (https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/web/WebIsKindOfFragile) News Roundup Classic CDE (Common Desktop Environment) coming to OpenBSD (https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20250730080301) Some notes on DMARC policy inheritance and a gotcha (https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/spam/DMARCPolicyInheritanceNotes) Despite thoughts to the contrary, GNAT (Ada) is in fact fully supported on illumos (https://briancallahan.net/blog/20250817.html) Eighteen Years of Greytrapping - Is the Weirdness Finally Paying Off? (https://bsdly.blogspot.com/2025/08/eighteen-years-of-greytrapping-is.html) Tarsnap This weeks episode of BSDNow was sponsored by our friends at Tarsnap, the only secure online backup you can trust your data to. Even paranoids need backups. Feedback/Questions Send questions, comments, show ideas/topics, or stories you want mentioned on the show to feedback@bsdnow.tv (mailto:feedback@bsdnow.tv) Join us and other BSD Fans in our BSD Now Telegram channel (https://t.me/bsdnow)

FreeBSD Journal Summer 2025 Edition, Java hiding in plain sight, BSDCan 2025 Trip report, Call for testing OpenBSD webcams, recent new features in OpenSSH, Improved 802.11g AP compatibility check, and more NOTES This episode of BSDNow is brought to you by Tarsnap (https://www.tarsnap.com/bsdnow) and the BSDNow Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/bsdnow) Headlines FreeBSD Journal April/May/June 2025 Edition (https://freebsdfoundation.org/our-work/journal/browser-based-edition/networking-3/) BSDCan 2025 Trip Report – Chuck Tuffli (https://freebsdfoundation.org/blog/bsdcan-2025-trip-report-chuck-tuffli/) News Roundup Call for testing: USB webcams (http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20250808083341) From Minecraft to Markets: Java Hiding in Plain Sight (https://freebsdfoundation.org/blog/from-minecraft-to-markets-java-hiding-in-plain-sight/) Recent new features in OpenSSH (http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20250802084523) NetBSD 11.0 release process underway (https://blog.netbsd.org/tnf/entry/netbsd_11_0_release_process) Interview: Nico Cartron Tarsnap This weeks episode of BSDNow was sponsored by our friends at Tarsnap, the only secure online backup you can trust your data to. Even paranoids need backups. Feedback/Questions Send questions, comments, show ideas/topics, or stories you want mentioned on the show to feedback@bsdnow.tv (mailto:feedback@bsdnow.tv) Join us and other BSD Fans in our BSD Now Telegram channel (https://t.me/bsdnow) Special Guest: Nico Cartron.

Why FreeBSD is the Right Choice for Embedded Devices, The Day GlusterFS Tried to Kill My Career, DragonFly DRM updated, NetBSD on Raspberry Pi, Speed up suspend/resume for FreeBSD, Revisiting ZFS's ZIL, separate log devices, and writes, One of my blog articles featured on the BSD Now podcast episode, New build cluster speeds up daily autobuilds, and more NOTES This episode of BSDNow is brought to you by Tarsnap (https://www.tarsnap.com/bsdnow) and the BSDNow Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/bsdnow) Headlines Why FreeBSD is the Right Choice for Embedded Devices (https://klarasystems.com/articles/why-freebsd-is-the-right-choice-for-embedded-devices/?utm_source=BSD%20Now&utm_medium=Podcast) The Day GlusterFS Tried to Kill My Career (https://it-notes.dragas.net/2025/05/21/the_day_glusterfs_tried_to_kill_my_career/) News Roundup DragonFly DRM updated (https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2025/07/31/dragonfly-drm-updated/) NetBSD on Raspberry Pi! (https://www.ncartron.org/netbsd-on-raspberry-pi.html) Speed up suspend/resume for FreeBSD (https://eugene-andrienko.com/en/it/2025/07/28/speed-up-suspend-resume-freebsd.html) Revisiting ZFS's ZIL, separate log devices, and writes (https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/solaris/ZFSWritesAndZILIII) One of my blog articles featured on the BSD Now podcast episode! (https://www.ncartron.org/one-of-my-blog-articles-featured-on-the-bsd-now-podcast-episode.html) New build cluster speeds up daily autobuilds (http://blog.netbsd.org/tnf/entry/new_build_cluster_speeds_up) Tarsnap This weeks episode of BSDNow was sponsored by our friends at Tarsnap, the only secure online backup you can trust your data to. Even paranoids need backups. Send questions, comments, show ideas/topics, or stories you want mentioned on the show to feedback@bsdnow.tv (mailto:feedback@bsdnow.tv) Join us and other BSD Fans in our BSD Now Telegram channel (https://t.me/bsdnow)

In this episode, Tyler walks through how multi-user accounts work on macOS—why you might use them, how to add a new user, ways to switch quickly (including Touch ID), and how to safely delete an account while preserving data for troubleshooting. He also covers guest access, account types (Administrator, Standard, and Sharing Only), and a few accessibility tips with VoiceOver.Key PointsWhy multi-user: Separate files, settings, and Apple Account sync per person; great for shared Macs or isolating issues by testing in a fresh account.Account types: Administrator can change system settings and install software.Standard has its own files/settings but cannot administer the Mac.Sharing Only can access shared services remotely but cannot log in at the Mac.Guest user: If FileVault is on, Guest can only use Safari; if off, Guest can use apps but all data is wiped on logout.Fast User Switching: Add the menu-bar item via Control Center settings (listed as “Menu Bar” in macOS Tahoe per the recording timeframe), then switch from the status menu.Touch ID switching: Register different fingers per account to jump between users instantly—even from the lock screen.Deleting an account: Three options—(1) save home folder as a disk image under Deleted Users, (2) don't change the home folder, or (3) delete the home folder.Troubleshooting tip: You can preserve your home folder, delete the account, then recreate it with the same account name to merge and reset settings—handy if issues are account-specific.Shared folder caveat: The /Users/Shared folder defaults to read/write for creator and read-only for others; permissions can be finicky, and other sharing methods may be easier.Step-by-Step GuideCreate a New User Open System Settings > Users & Groups, and click Add User…Pick an Account Type (Administrator, Standard, or Sharing Only). Standard is the default.Enter Full Name; Account Name (home folder name) will auto-fill. Set a Password and optional Hint, then click Create User.First Login & Touch ID Log out of your account, select the new user, and sign in.In Setup Assistant, the user can enroll Touch ID with their finger.Enable Fast User Switching (Menu Bar) Go to System Settings > Control Center (labeled “Menu Bar” in future macOS versions relative to the time of recording).Find Fast User Switching and set it to Show (e.g., show Account Name). Then use the status menus to switch users.Switch Between Users Instantly From the menu bar via Fast User Switching, or with Touch ID, a user can press the sensor with the finger registered to their account (works at the lock screen once accounts have been logged into).Share Files Between Accounts (Optional) Use /Users/Shared; creator has read/write, others read-only by default. Adjust permissions via Get Info if needed—but expect some Unix permission quirks.Delete a User Safely In Users & Groups, click the "Show detail" button for an account, click Delete User, and choose what to do with the Home folder.TranscriptDisclaimer: This transcript was generated by…

OpenBSD chflags vs. Log Tampering, How to Defend Against Aggressive Web Scrapers With Anubis on FreeBSD 14, OpenBSD Innovations, Full Ada programming toolchain NOW on FreeBSD, Compute GPUs can have odd failures under Linux (still), A handy collection of shell aliases from my bash startup, and more NOTES This episode of BSDNow is brought to you by Tarsnap (https://www.tarsnap.com/bsdnow) and the BSDNow Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/bsdnow) Headlines When Root Meets Immutable: OpenBSD chflags vs. Log Tampering (https://rsadowski.de/posts/2025/openbsd-immutable-system-logs/) How to Defend Against Aggressive Web Scrapers With Anubis on FreeBSD 14 (https://herrbischoff.com/2025/07/how-to-defend-against-aggressive-web-scrapers-with-anubis-on-freebsd-14/) News Roundup OpenBSD Innovations (https://www.openbsd.org/innovations.html) Full Ada programming toolchain NOW on FreeBSD (https://www.reddit.com/r/freebsd/comments/1m21t7o/ann_full_ada_programming_toolchain_now_on_freebsd/) Compute GPUs can have odd failures under Linux (still) (https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/ComputeGPUsStillFinicky) A handy collection of shell aliases from my bash startup (https://blog.petdance.com/2020/02/03/handy-collection-of-shell-aliases/) Tarsnap This weeks episode of BSDNow was sponsored by our friends at Tarsnap, the only secure online backup you can trust your data to. Even paranoids need backups. Feedback/Questions Efraim - modernizing (https://github.com/BSDNow/bsdnow.tv/blob/master/episodes/624/feedback/Efraim%20-%20modernizing.md) Send questions, comments, show ideas/topics, or stories you want mentioned on the show to feedback@bsdnow.tv (mailto:feedback@bsdnow.tv) Join us and other BSD Fans in our BSD Now Telegram channel (https://t.me/bsdnow)

It's a topic two-fer! Brad's refrigerator died last week, which gives us a chance to talk about online appliance-buying on a budget in 2025, some refrigeration and food-safety basics, product minimalism and applying the Unix philosophy to home ownership, and more. And Will just got back from Super Mario Land in Hollywood, so we go through a (literal) trip report about the experience and the tech underpinning it, from Amiibo wristbands to augmented-reality Mario Kart, ways to stay off your phone in a theme park, and a startling encounter with Bowser Jr. Support the Pod! Contribute to the Tech Pod Patreon and get access to our booming Discord, a monthly bonus episode, your name in the credits, and other great benefits! You can support the show at: https://patreon.com/techpod

Software Bill of Materials (SBOM) for FreeBSD Project, Your Guide to Lock-In Free Infrastructure, and we interview David Gwynne from the University of Queensland and developer on the OpenBSD project. NOTES This episode of BSDNow is brought to you by Tarsnap (https://www.tarsnap.com/bsdnow) and the BSDNow Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/bsdnow) Headlines Software Bill of Materials (SBOM) for FreeBSD Project (https://freebsdfoundation.org/blog/software-bill-of-materials-sbom-for-freebsd-project/) FreeBSD Summer 2025 Roundup: Your Guide to Lock-In Free Infrastructure (https://klarasystems.com/articles/freebsd-guide-to-lock-in-free-infrastructure) Interview David Gwynne from the University of Queensland and developer on the OpenBSD project. Interview thoughts from Benedict and Jason Tarsnap This weeks episode of BSDNow was sponsored by our friends at Tarsnap, the only secure online backup you can trust your data to. Even paranoids need backups. Send questions, comments, show ideas/topics, or stories you want mentioned on the show to feedback@bsdnow.tv (mailto:feedback@bsdnow.tv) Join us and other BSD Fans in our BSD Now Telegram channel (https://t.me/bsdnow) Special Guest: David Gwynne.

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Bret Taylor's legendary career includes being CTO of Meta, co-CEO of Salesforce, chairman of the board at OpenAI (yes, during that drama), co-creating both Google Maps and the Like button, and founding three companies. Today he's the founder and CEO of Sierra, an AI agent company transforming customer service. He's one of the few people I've met who's been wildly successful at every level—from engineer to C-suite executive to founder—and across almost every discipline, including PM, engineer, CTO, COO, CPO, CEO, and board member.In this conversation, you'll learn:1. The brutal product review that nearly ended his Google career—and how that failure led to creating Google Maps2. The question Sheryl Sandberg taught him to ask every morning (“What's the most impactful thing I can do today?”) that transformed how he approached every role3. The three AI market segments that matter4. Why AI agents will replace SaaS products5. His framework for knowing whose advice to actually listen to—and how that came in handy during the OpenAI board drama6. The counterintuitive go-to-market strategy most AI startups get wrong7. Sierra's outcome-based pricing model that's transforming how enterprise software is sold (and why every SaaS company should adopt it)8. What he's teaching his kids about AI that every parent should know—Brought to you by:CodeRabbit—Cut code review time and bugs in half. Instantly: https://coderabbit.link/lennyBasecamp—The famously straightforward project management system from 37signals: https://www.basecamp.com/lennyVanta—Automate compliance. Simplify security: https://vanta.com/lenny—Where to find Bret Taylor:• X: https://x.com/btaylor• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brettaylor/—Where to find Lenny:• Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com• X: https://twitter.com/lennysan• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/—In this episode, we cover:(00:00) Introduction to Bret Taylor(04:10) Bret's early career and first major mistake(08:24) The birth of Google Maps(11:57) Lessons from FriendFeed and the importance of honest feedback(31:30) The future of coding and AI's role(45:26) Preparing the next generation for an AI-driven world(48:46) AI in education(52:05) Business strategies in the AI market(01:04:38) Outcome-based pricing in AI(01:09:15) Productivity gains and AI(01:17:35) Go-to-market strategies for AI products(01:21:49) Lightning round and final thoughts—Referenced:• Marissa Mayer on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marissamayer/• “Lazy Sunday”—SNL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRhTeaa_B98• Quip: https://quip.com/• Sierra: https://sierra.ai/• FriendFeed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FriendFeed• Sheryl Sandberg on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sheryl-sandberg-5126652/• Jim Norris on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/halfspin/• Paul Buchheit on X: https://x.com/paultoo• Sanjeev Singh on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sanjeev-singh-20a1b72/• Barack Obama: https://www.obamalibrary.gov/obamas/president-barack-obama• Oprah Winfrey: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oprah_Winfrey• Ashton Kutcher: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashton_Kutcher• PayPal Mafia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PayPal_Mafia• Sam Altman on X: https://x.com/sama• Warren Buffett on X: https://x.com/warrenbuffett• Unix: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix• Fortran: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortran• C: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_(programming_language)• Python: https://www.python.org/• Perl: https://www.perl.org/• Rust: https://www.rust-lang.org/• Eleven Labs: https://elevenlabs.io/• The exact AI playbook (using MCPs, custom GPTs, Granola) that saved ElevenLabs $100k+ and helps them ship daily | Luke Harries (Head of Growth): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-ai-marketing-stack• Confluent: https://www.confluent.io/• Databricks: https://www.databricks.com/• Snowflake: https://www.snowflake.com• Harvey: https://www.harvey.ai/• Behind the founder: Marc Benioff: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/behind-the-founder-marc-benioff• Larry Summers's website: https://larrysummers.com/• AutoCAD: https://www.autodesk.com/products/autocad/overview• Revit: https://www.autodesk.com/products/revit/• The art and science of pricing | Madhavan Ramanujam (Monetizing Innovation, Simon-Kucher): https://www.amazon.com/Monetizing-Innovation-Companies-Design-Product/dp/1119240867• Pricing your AI product: Lessons from 400+ companies and 50 unicorns | Madhavan Ramanujam: https://lenny.substack.com/p/pricing-and-scaling-your-ai-product-madhavan-ramanujam• Cursor: https://cursor.com/• CodeX: https://openai.com/codex/• Claude Code: https://www.anthropic.com/claude-code• The rise of Cursor: The $300M ARR AI tool that engineers can't stop using | Michael Truell (co-founder and CEO): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-rise-of-cursor-michael-truell• DirecTV: https://www.directv.com/• SiriusXM: https://www.siriusxm.com/• Wayfair: https://www.wayfair.com/• Akai: https://www.akaipro.com/• Chubbies Shorts: https://www.chubbiesshorts.com/• Weight Watchers: https://www.weightwatchers.com/• CLEAR: https://www.clearme.com/• Stripe: https://stripe.com/• Building product at Stripe: craft, metrics, and customer obsession | Jeff Weinstein (Product lead): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/building-product-at-stripe-jeff-weinstein• Twilio: https://www.twilio.com/• ServiceNow: https://www.servicenow.com/• Adobe: https://www.adobe.com/• Jobs to be done: https://jobs-to-be-done.com/jobs-to-be-done-a-framework-for-customer-needs-c883cbf61c90• The ultimate guide to JTBD | Bob Moesta (co-creator of the framework): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-ultimate-guide-to-jtbd-bob-moesta• Inception: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1375666/• Alan Kay's quote: https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/alan_kay_100831• Jobs at Sierra: https://sierra.ai/careers—Recommended books:• Monetizing Innovation: How Smart Companies Design the Product Around the Price: https://www.amazon.com/Monetizing-Innovation-Companies-Design-Product/dp/1119240867• Competing Against Luck: The Story of Innovation and Customer Choice: https://www.amazon.com/Competing-Against-Luck-Innovation-Customer/dp/0062435612• Endurance: Shackleton's Incredible Voyage: https://www.amazon.com/Endurance-Shackletons-Incredible-Alfred-Lansing/dp/0465062881—Production and marketing by https://penname.co/. For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email podcast@lennyrachitsky.com.Lenny may be an investor in the companies discussed. To hear more, visit www.lennysnewsletter.com