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Becky: You. Hello. Welcome to the Hoss Lady podcast, where I help you declutter your life and your home. Hey friends. It's Becky, the Hoss lady. How is everybody doing today? I am sitting in my office with my puppy in my lap who is snoring extremely loud. Hopefully, you can't hear it. If you can, I apologize. Or maybe it'll give you a good laugh, I don't know. So I wanted to talk today about a very, very simple thing, and it's actually what we're going to be focusing on in the month of May for our monthly challenge. Now, if you do not get my monthly challenge newsletters, you need to go out to www.thehosslady.com getstarted , and you will get on my email list, where you will get a monthly email newsletter talking about our monthly challenges. And this month of May, we are going to be doing the bedroom. So I don't know, and I think I've shared this, but I was diagnosed with ADHD about two years ago, and I have taught myself over the years, way before I was diagnosed, that having a good system in place is what's going to get me into productivity and perform at a higher level, right? So one of the systems that I started a few years ago is the bedroom. And I know a lot of people don't make their bed. And just hear me out for a second. I just decided one day that I was somebody who would make the bed every morning. And again, this might seem a little pointless, but guys, it changed my whole life because I used to be somebody who would snooze the alarm like 13 times before rolling out of bed, like, throwing on whatever outfit was clean. I would run a brush through my hair. If I was lucky, I'd have time to get together a lunch. And if I was even more lucky, I'd have actually time to sit down and have a cup of coffee. Very rarely, though. So I was either like, flying into the parking lot of work on two wheels, or I was beating myself up halfway down the road because I actually left on time but forgot something. And that happened a lot. But I started to realize that all of these things were choices. I was making these choices. I was doing this to myself. It wasn't the world against me. It wasn't that I had too much to do. It was that I was choosing to make my life complicated. And so I didn't really see the benefit of having a morning routine back then. I just didn't see it. And I just chose not to create one. But then I started listening to a lot of, like, self help, self development, future self work, and almost everybody, all the mentors out there talk about their morning routine and how important it is. So I was like, okay, let me give it a little bit of a try. Maybe I will create a good morning routine. So I thought, okay, if they can get up at 05:00 in the morning and have all this time to do everything they need to do and have a productive and amazing day, let's try it. So, hey, I set my alarm for 05:00 A.m. Next morning. I was like, what the ****? I hit snooze. The rest was history. So, okay, first time didn't go. So maybe second time. So I tried it again. Let's just try it again. Becky again. Next morning, 05:00 comes. I'm like, this is bull ****. So I hit snooze and then just repeat, repeat, over and over. And then I realized it's not me, it's my system. I have been so used to just reaching my arm across onto my nightstand and slapping this news button on my phone that I was not giving myself a chance to break that habit. I needed a pattern interrupt. Okay, so I needed a new system. So I had an idea. All right, I am going to put my phone on the other side of the room for when the alarm goes off. I will be forced to get out of bed to turn it off. Okay? So I did that. The first day I heard that alarm, I woke up, I was kind of like, Where's my phone? In a frantic search. And I jump out of bed. I was like, oh, yeah, it's across the room. I go over to the other side of the room, I turn off the alarm, I turn around, and I look back...

Becky Brown on Discovering Your Attachment Style, with Merrill and Linda Hutchinson on Rock Solid Radio PodcastBecky Brown, Development Director of New Life Ministries, was interviewed by Merrill and Linda Hutchinson of Rock Solid Radio podcast on attachment styles.Caption: Rock Solid Radiohttps://www.rocksolidfamilies.org/podcast/rock-solid-radioBecky has been a Professional Clinical Counselor for 25 years. She has worked as a CoHost of the national radio show, New Life Live for the past 3 years. She has been involved with New Life Ministries in Donor Relations and Development for over 12 years. Becky has her Masters in Mental Health Counseling.She is a wife and mother of three grown children and grandmother of three grandchildren. She has a special knack for bringing expert counseling support with a well rounded Christian foundation to her listeners and clients. In this episode, she explains the concept of attachment styles, shares how a person's attachment style impacts all of their relationships, and explains the steps to begin healing and learning to create secure attachments. “The one pivotal question that attachment theory starts with is, ‘what are your first memories of being comforted?',” shares Becky Brown, Development Director of New Life Ministries. Becky has been a professional clinical counselor for 25 years, offering Christian counseling and life coaching. She helps people to learn about their attachment styles and work towards creating secure attachment in order to heal their relationships. Today, Becky joins co-hosts Linda and Merrill Hutchinson to talk about attachment styles, mental health, healing relationships, and the transformative power of faith.Listen to, or watch, the full podcast interview by Merrill and Linda Hutchinson with Becky Brown on your preferred podcast channel.In this podcast, the host covers:Why Becky chose to become a Christian counselorWhat attachment theory is and why it impacts every relationship a person hasHow to discover your attachment styleWhy the 12 step path can be helpful to life recovery, even for non addictsWhy it is important to expand your emotional vocabularyHow Every Man's Battle, a workshop and book, can help men develop healthier attachment stylesCaption: Becky Brown, Development Director of New Life MinistriesLink: https://newlife.com/Podcast Quotes:“There is this complicated thing called life where it does make a difference with intact families. It does make a difference when we are teaching the kids how to see other people as people and humans and love them with the love of Christ.” (10:00-10:15 |  Becky)“When people understand their attachment style, it impacts every relationship they have.” (12:45-12:52 | Becky) “The one pivotal question that attachment theory starts with is, ‘what are your first memories of being comforted?'.” (13:39-13:47 | Becky)“What we don't realize many times is that we are the ones that may be disrupting what's actually happening in the connection.” (21:47-21:55 | Becky)“You don't have to have a Bible study to start with. You just need to be seen and heard.” (46:30-46:34 | Becky)Support the show

Becky Antkowiak is a writer, leader of the 540 Community for writers, and my new best friend. Today, Becky shares with us her story of following a calling that seemed to not work out only to discover how God uses everything. Becky also opens up about a season of grief and lets us in on how she found the Lord when he seemed absent. Becky leads a group of writers called the 540 Community and explains why everyone has a story to tell. Becky's story reminds us that no matter where we find ourselves, God is working. Listen to Becky's story now! Stories Becky shared: Homeschooling and working at Redemption Press Growing up in Virginia Going to Bible college The pastor that she looked up to Convincing her grandfather that she loved Jesus at 4 years old The spiritual biographies that influenced her Learning that teaching was not for her Feeling angry that the Lord didn't take her overseas Why “living for God” does not mean “ministry” work How her husband helped her through the anger Receiving a lupus diagnosis Sensing God's distance while grieving her sister Processing her grief and where God is in the middle of grief Why she started the 540 Community Great quotes from Becky: You don't need a crazy education to homeschool but you do need to have commitment. As long as you are putting your best effort in, you're working hard, and you're happy,  find a way to do that for Jesus. I lived in a bubble until the last year. Resources we mentioned: Becky's website 540 Facebook group Redemption Press Through Gates of Splendor by Elizabeth Elliot George Müller: Delighted in God Related episodes: September McCarthy and Suffering as Sanctification Douglas Groothuis and Walking Through Twilight James Prescott and Processing Grief Well The post Becky Antkowiak and Faithfulness Through Grief appeared first on Eric Nevins.

On this episode of Is That Like a Thing, all four of us are back in a room together for the first time since May!! We are so excited to have our sister, Crystal, back with us as we wrap up Season One of the podcast. We didn't know how this episode was going to end up, but we talk suffering and conquering our giants. Crystal shares her journey from  healing from Covid-19 while Becky and Magen share personal giants they've been battling the last few months. If you have ever struggled with doubt or unbelief, y'all, this episode will be of great encouragement to you.  Thanks for joining us on this episode of Is That Like a Thing! Want more info? Follow us on facebook, twitter and Instagram @isthatlikeathing or reach us at 469-854-9636QUOTES to SHARE : “God allowed some things in my own heart to rise to the surface in a way that they'd always been there, I just didn't realize that they'd always been there.” Magen“The Lord knows us better than we know us.” Magen“We are not operating within lack.” Magen“We've got to free ourselves from the idea that our suffering is not as bad as someone else's.” Crystal“God is using your suffering in ways that are fuel for Him in our worship, in our prayer, in our faith.” Crystal“I really believe that it is by the grace of God that led me to face my giant… and fight it.”  Crystal“Who are we without our battles?” Crystal“My only comfort was Him.” Crystal“I was doing all the things I was supposed to do, but somehow, I had to face the battle anyway.” Crystal“The whole world can believe God for you, but if you don't believe him for yourself, then what is this all about?” Crystal“We have been equipped more than enough to face the giants.” Magen“Do I just not have enough faith?” Becky“You're going to struggle with unbelief and that's not a surprise to the Lord.” Becky“It's not always gonna feel good… you're not gonna feel like you trust God all the time.” Becky “Instead, it's this act of coming to the battlefield again and again and saying, “Lord, I believe, but help my unbelief.” Becky“Don't give up begging God to help your unbelief.” Becky

In this episode, we talk about the trip we are about to take together.  Road Trip!  We might be just a little excited.  We also talk about how we like to THM on the road and offer some tips for eating out.  If you are enjoying these podcast episodes, the best way to help spread the word is to rate, review, and subscribe to our podcast on Apple Podcasts.  Thank you for your reviews.

In today's episode, we talk about the staples we keep on hand to help us with our THM lifestyle.  You can find out about all things Girls Gone Trim here:https://linktr.ee/GirlsGoneTrimWhere to find Becky

In today's episode, we talk about how you can be a Trim Healthy Mama whether you are super organized or you aren't.  You can find out about all things Girls Gone Trim here:https://linktr.ee/GirlsGoneTrimWhere to find Becky

In this episode, we share our fave THM breakfasts with you.   You can find out about all things Girls Gone Trim here:https://linktr.ee/GirlsGoneTrimWhere to find Becky

In this episode, we discuss some of the obstacles that can keep you from committing to THM for life. You can find out about all things Girls Gone Trim here:https://linktr.ee/GirlsGoneTrimWhere to find Becky

Becky Goebel - Influencer, Professional Motorcyclist, and Entrepreneur. Becky Goebel is a social media influencer with more than 80,000 followers across her platforms and a professional motorcyclist that’s been on shows such as Riverdale, and Ride with Norman Reedus. Becky is a hustlin’ entrepreneur who runs both the largest gathering of women on motorcycles in Canada, and the second largest in the world.  Listen in to hear how Becky’s journey started with motorcycles - years ago, she posted a photo of her riding a bike on Instagram and got 7,000 followers in a day. Now that’s developed into her running two major conferences, writing for every major motorcycle brand out there, and producing content for brands like Harley Davidson, Triumph, Ducati, and Volcom and Vans. Book recommendation: Don Starkell - Paddle to the Amazon. Want to connect with Becky? You can find her on Instagram @actuallyitsaxel, @thedreamroll, and @wizespirits and on her website www.actuallyitsaxel.com Want to listen to more episodes? Click one of the links below… Spotify: http://bit.ly/StriveForMorePodcast Apple Podcasts:  https://tinyurl.com/StriveApplePodcast If you enjoy this podcast, would you consider leaving us a short review and a 5-star rating on Apple podcasts? It takes like 20 seconds, and goes a long way to convincing on-the-fence listeners to try us out.  Get my FREE Ebook: https://mailchi.mp/728bcc8982db/3secretsbook You can also get access to my free newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/0d7a9206f0e7/behindthecurtains Follow Strive: Instagram: instagram.com/striveaccelerator Facebook: facebook.com/striveaccelerator  Twitter: twitter.com/striveaccelera1

Episode 5 - Podcasters Choice - Anything goes on this edition of What the Lyric. Becky and Matthew choose their favorite bad lyrics from any decade and and genre. One is from 2016 and the other is from 1978. Who will be victorious? Podcasters Choice   [Start 00:00:00]   [Music playing 00:00:06]   Becky: Welcome. To What he Lyric? the podcast that confirms, yeah, that actually made it to radio.   Hello and welcome to What the Lyric? Today and What the Lyric? podcasters choice, we pick apart whatever song we want, it's a free for all. And I have picked something recent.   Matthew: Oh.   Becky: I think it still fits into the me-too movement theme I got going on.   Matthew: I do have to ask first though. Most hated bands…   Becky: These guys.   Matthew: Across the board…   Becky: Yes.   Matthew: Do not tell me yet. But any others like…   Becky: These guys.   Matthew: Was it an easy choice for you to make?   Becky: Yes. It was so… The first song that James Arthur, horrific train wreck of a wedding song that people are using. That one and I think this one are the reason that this podcast exists.   Matthew: Wow.   Becky: Yeah.   Matthew: There was no other song. That popped into your head?   Becky: Nope. This one. I was like and this is it. There are a couple others. That I thought of because they were funny, but I was like, no, I hate this one immensely. Like. So much, so much   Matthew: Fascinating. See! Mine was less generated by hatred and more confusion. Because I do have… This is again a favourite song of mine.   Becky: Kind of how bizarre confusion?   Matthew: Yes.   Becky: Okay.   Matthew: It is precisely how bizarre. I think everyone has heard the song and everyone has been like the fuck. I am excited to get into that.   Becky: Then I am going to let you go first, because…   Matthew: Really?   Becky: Yeah.   Matthew: End on the hatred note but start with confusion.   Becky: I have got a heavy dissertation going on over here.   Matthew: I mean, it is going to take, you no time to get…   Becky: Okay.   Matthew: What this song is. I am trying to think. Let me find. Oh, the songwriter is Jimmy Webb. And you know what…   Becky: Jimmy Webb?   Matthew: You’re going to have to think of more of the 70s. This is coming out of the 70s. I am breaking my millennial streak and also my 2008 streak.   Becky: Does it have to do with pina colada?   Matthew: It does not, although that is a fantastic song and I will not hear a word about those lyrics. I am going to skip the part where the song title is. Well, let's just start at the beginning. Spring was never waiting for us, dear. It ran one-step ahead as we followed in the dance. Blank is melting in the dark. There is your first clue.   Becky: Is this MacArthur Park?   Matthew: Yes, and I…   Becky: And I can't tell you how much I love this song for craziness of it.   Matthew: Right, but precisely right. If you look at the lyrics and this is a fantastic song by Donna Summer.   Becky: Oh, no. It is not, have you read the history of this?   Matthew: I have read a part of it. I don't know all of it. I love the Donna Summer version.   Becky: Oh, that is the classic. That one. Yes. Then Anthony Clark, a comedian, did a version. Well, he did a part about this song and his bit, which always made me giggle.  We used to play this at work, I looked it up, and there was somebody that did a cover of it. That we then spent a good half an hour trying to find so that we could play it. Now I get to look it up. But yes, MacArthur Park, genius.   Matthew: So I already knew off the bat, like, this is going to be low on the yikes scale. because…   Becky: Oh, it is so good.   Matthew: It is a phenomenal song if you have not heard it. But again, the entire thing is about MacArthur Park.   Becky: Cake out in the rain.   Matthew: And supposedly, it is supposed to be about the park because it says MacArthur's park is melting in the dark.   Becky: Yep.   Matthew: All the sweet green icing flowing down, presumably foliage.   Becky: Yep.   Matthew: And then it just goes off the fucking rails and it is like someone left the cake out in the rain. I don't think that I can take it. Cause it took so long to bake it.   Becky: Oh, my God.   Matthew: And I will never have that…   Becky: Here is when I hear the disco [Making noise 00:4:48] noise, yeah.   Matthew: There is so much going on in the song and this person is lamenting it took so long to bake it and I will never have that recipe again. And the series of oh no. Like you cannot describe the depth of emotion captured by that no.   Becky: So good. It is so good. And it's a seven minute long song. Also my favourite, it was Waylon Jennings. Matthew: I did not know Waylon Jennings.   Becky: Including a 1969 Grammy winning version by Waylon Jennings. And you can hear how pissed off he was singing that. Like he's fuckin lyrics don't mean shit. He was probably drunk or stone or whatever.   Matthew: [Inaudible 00:5:30]   Becky: Yeah. Oh, amazing. Waylon Jennings, Grammy won a Grammy.   Matthew: Did not know that. Also, I apologize, it was not in the 70s but it was in the 60s.   Becky: Yeah, 69. Yeah. I had to look it up.   Matthew: General area.   Becky: 68 was when it was first recorded. But you were close. It is a known area for the Donna Summer one.   Matthew: Right.   Becky: My mom had that album by the way.   Matthew: I mean it is phenomenal. And the thing is, there aren't many lyrics here. And I would argue that none of them are terrible. It is just so fucking weird. Like I recall the yellow cotton dress. Okay, that makes sense presumably someone wearing it, foaming like a wave. That makes absolutely no sense. And the ground beneath your knees, even less sense. Like how do you track and create lyrics that make absolute zero sense when you take three sentences together.   Becky: Let's be honest. Late 60s, the whole summer of love coming up soon.   Matthew: Wholesome non-drug usage   Becky: Probably a lot of drugs happening. Why is there a cake reference? What the whole cake reference? Matthew: Like looks at a park and says, you know, I really want to go to the cake.   Becky: It looks like a cake.   Matthew: Everything that I walk around this park screams cake.   Becky: I have never had a park look like a cake. Yeah,   Matthew: I would want to go the park more if it did.   Becky: That's again, that's an acid trip. And I may or may not have seen things that looked unlike that.   Matthew: It’s just like so weird because someone… Interesting fact, though, if you look at the lyrics, the first time you hear about the cake. It says someone left the cake out in the rain. She says it again; someone left the cake out in the rain. A little bit later on the song, the final stanza…   Becky: Does it becomes her cake?   Matthew: It does. It said someone left my cake out in the rain. And I don't think that I can take it because it took so long to bake it. And I'll never have that recipe again.   Becky: I will tell you what. After the whole cake off that we had at work, I understand that layer…     Matthew: There was a cake off?   Becky: We had the cake off. The Halloween theme, Friday the 13th, cake off.   Matthew: Well, we should clarify that this cake off was not for October Friday the 13th. It was a September Friday.   Becky: Yeah it was September, Friday 13th, a Halloween. It was more horror Friday 13th inspired cake off that we did it work. And yeah, I get that. I get that. The It cake I did was rough. I will never do that one again. And I hope I never remember that recipe because it did take so long to bake it.   Matthew: And you will never do that recipe again.   Becky: And I will never do that recipe again. Yeah. So yeah, I get it. I understand where she's coming from on that. I mean, I get it. I am with her.   Matthew: I know. All of them get it. I mean I personally don't understand the analogy of a park to a cake.   Becky: So good.   Matthew: The emotion in it, regardless of how…   Becky: She is good.   Matthew: batshit crazy the lyric are.   Becky: Yeah.   Matthew: I honestly give this zero yikes. Because it is, weird but I just wanted to bring it because it is a favourite song.   Becky: It is so good.   Matthew: And it make so a little sense.   Becky: Yeah. It makes no sense whatsoever. It is so good. So good. All right. So mine.   Matthew: Who do you hate? Oh, it might be recent. I might get it.   Becky: It is from 2016.   Matthew: Ariana Grande?   Becky: Oh, no, it’s a group and then another singer. These guys are known also for being producers, but they do all these collabs, as the kids say. And this was the first time that I heard them. At first I was like, well, this is kind of bland. Then I start listening to lyrics and I wanted to punch them in the face.   Matthew: I am intrigued.   Becky: Okay let me read some of the lyrics. Here is how it starts. Hey, I was doing just fine before I met you. I drink too much and that is an issue, but I am okay. No. hey! tell your friends it was nice to meet them, but I hope I never see them again. I know it breaks your heart. Moved to the city in a broke down car. In 4 years, no calls. Now you are looking pretty in a hotel bar. And I can't stop. No, I can't stop.   Matthew: I remember vaguely the song and I would not remember it if I had not heard you. Months ago talking about how much you hate this band.   Becky: Eviscerate this band. Yeah.   Matthew: I forget what the song is called, but is it The Chainsmokers?   Becky: Oh, it is.   Both Speakers: And Halsey.   Matthew: That is it.   Becky: I necessarily have issue with Halsey. I have a lot of issues with the fucking Chainsmokers. First off, let us just start with. I drink too much and that is an issue, but I am okay. No, clearly you are not. This is what AA is.   Matthew: I have issue but I am okay.   Becky: I'm okay. No, it is intervention time. Then like he sees you looking pretty good in a hotel bar? This is the dude that broke up with you because you got fat. Then comes back and is like, whoa! Somebody lost some weight. And wants to get back in on it. No, and then it goes in to baby pull me closer in the backseat of your rover that I know you can't afford. Come on. You don't know that. You have been away from her for four years. She could be doing well because  she did not have that frickin rock of an ex hanging around her.   Matthew: Dragging her down.   Becky: Yeah. Pull the sheets right off the corner of the mattress you stole from the roommate back in Boulder. There are several issues here. First off, bed bugs.   Matthew: Absolutely riddled with them. There is no way she is not.   Becky: God knows what else is on that mattress. Or has been on that mattress. There is not enough steam cleaning. or defogging or what you do with a mattress to kill anything that is on it. You should have just left that out in the backyard or on the side of the street somehow. No, gross. So gross. I can’t even.  How is that a lyric in a song way?   Matthew: Wait, pause because technically wait. Not only bed bugs would be a concern, but she…   Both Speakers: Stole it.   Becky: From her roommate.   Matthew: Yeah, at what point…   Becky: We don’t know.   Matthew: Did she just decide to up and leave while the like roommate was at work. Oh, shit this is a nice like Caspar mattress. Caspar if you would like to sponsor this podcast.   Becky: Yeah.   Matthew: Please contact us.   Becky: I picture like the tablecloth trick. Roommate sleeping whip the mattress out from underneath there. Drops 0n the box spring and runs.   Matthew: Done, love it.   Becky: That is what I am picturing. Gross, cooties. You don't know what that roommate's done on that mattress. What if that roommate blacked out, drunk, peed on the bed or…   Matthew: Worse?   Becky: Worse or, you know, maybe…   Matthew: There are so many imagination.   Becky: There is so, many fluids that could be on that bed.   Matthew: And likely are.   Becky: Again, not enough steam cleaning or de-fogging or whatever you could do.                                       Matthew: When they say get a new mattress every eight years, they mean get a new mattress from the factory, not a new mattress to you. So don't steal your roommates mattress.   Becky: Yeah and no amount of mattress bag or pads could get me further away. I am like the princess and the pea. I would be like, I still now that there is pee there.   Matthew: Wow! Again, well done.   Becky: Yeah. Then he just like we ain’t ever getting older. You are, you are, you are, you turd, you are, you are. I can't stand these guys. Then now all of a sudden he is like, you look as good as the day I met you. I forgot just why I left you. Cause you are a turd. I think we have established you are an alcoholic turd. Because you have a drinking problem, but you are okay with it. The first reason to leave the guy, I don't know why you even went back. I mean, granted, maybe your whole revenge plot was the mattress did have some sort of cooties and you put him down there first was like, I will be right back.   Matthew: Good lie. Becky: While all the bugs jump on him.   Matthew: Abandon ship.   Becky: Yeah, I mean, I can't. I would not. Then he says, stay and play that Blink-182 song, right there   Matthew: Yeah, which is it...That one?   Becky: I’m out.  Blink-182. Are we that old?   Matthew: Wait, which one is it?   Becky: Blink-182. There is so many. Oh, it's the one that they beat to death in Tucson. Did they beat the Blink-182 to death?   Matthew: Blink-182 death.   Becky: Then it just goes the course. I know I broke your heart. I know it breaks your heart. Moved to a city in a broke down car and four years later didn't call. I don't know why? Why?   Matthew: This go back into your craw.   Becky: I was like, what the…This is bull shit. You don't know I can't afford a Rover. I am paying for your sad ass. And not four years later I've been able to save up for a Rover and then bite the tattoo on your shoulder. No, you ain’t touching me.   Matthew: Gross don't?   Becky: Get your get your shit away. Get your…   Matthew: Bed bug infested.   Becky: You need to get back to the hole. Just get on track. Now I am looking pretty in a hotel bar.   Matthew: Wait, he is saying that?   Becky: That is her singing it now.   Matthew: Oh, yikes.   Becky: Yeah.   Matthew: No.   Becky: I mean. I am sure you are Halsey. You are a good looking gal. But…And I and I can't stop. No, I can't stop. Yeah. It is called self-control.   Matthew: Yeah. No, I have…   Becky: I can’t stand this, I can’t… everything.   Matthew: What I love about this. Going back to the we ain't ever getting older because I'm like, wait. You already admitting you have a drinking problem. So like, that is for sure. Aging your liver.   Becky: You are going to get aged quick.   Matthew: But your band is The Chainsmokers. Yeah, like all are 100 percent getting old just because you are going to die young. Does that mean you are not getting older?   Becky: Yeah. Then they have a collab with Coldplay that I just hear everywhere. Is that I want something just like this. Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo. I can't.   Mathew: Oh, I never heard it.   Becky: Oh, you have.   Matthew: Have I?   Becky: You have. Yeah, it is fucking everywhere. That one, they have another one, and I was like, oh, this sounds like…oh it is The Chainsmokers. This feeling maybe. I don't know. I can't. They just need to stop. They need to really take stock of what, the hell they are doing. I am sure they are great producers. I don't give a shit. Just don't sing anymore. Don't write any more lyrics. Just produce the music. Be happy with making that money. You are good looking guys. You get whatever you want.   Matthew: You will be fine.   Becky: You will be giving the ladies. It is not a big deal. Just stop singing and putting out this piece of crap.   Matthew: Now the question I have. Is, how many yikes you assigning it? One is the worst. Are you going for one?   Becky: There are a big fat one for me, across the board. You could go, hey, The Chainsmokers. Nope. one. I don't like it. I don't like it. They could do something with Pavarotti. And I'm still like, no. They could bring Elvis back from the dead. And I will still say, no. Beatles back from the dead. Nope, nothing. There is nothing. Yeah.   Matthew: What, if they cured cancer?   Becky: Maybe   Matthew: That is hard maybe.   Becky: Maybe if they cured cancer and never recorded again…   Matthew: Deal.   Becky: I would pump it up to two. But they won't stop producing crap.   Matthew: No.   Becky: It is in their blood now. They have had like two or three hits. So now they're like, yeah,   Matthew: We are band.   Becky: We fucking rock. Everything we touch turns to gold bitches. Yeah. No.   Matthew: Yikes.   Becky: I hate them. I hate them. Oh, my God, they make my skin crawl. I hate so much.   Matthew: It is important to have that. I was like, okay, this is good, you know. James Arthur,   Becky: James Arthur and The Chainsmokers.   Matthew: Wait for that collab. When that does inevitably happen. We will have to talk about it here.   Becky: Oh, it is going to happen. You know it is going to happen.   Matthew: If it has not already.   Becky: The sweet, sweet dulcet tones of James Arthur followed by the. I don't even know what the producing style of the…   Matthew: The Chainsmokers   Becky: The Chainsmokers.   Matthew: We know that there singing style will be slurred because both of them have drinking problem.   Becky: Yes. It is all about alcohol, and I am pretty sure it'll take forever because I have to keep stopping for a smoke break, run out side. Then come back in and be like, all right, let's do it.   Matthew: Ah, the wheeze.   Becky: Yeah.   Matthew: Just wait for the smokers hack.   Becky: Before, okay. Let me just clears out. [Making coughing hacking sound 00:19:20] All right I am ready, and then…   Both speakers:  That is the dulcet of James Arthur.   Becky: Yeah. Oh, yeah.   Matthew: Wow! Cause there, you know. Puff, huffing and puffing.   Becky: I am trying to think. They don't even really singing that song. It is like doing just fine before. Like mumbling of, yeah.   Matthew: [Inaudible 00:19:40-45]   Becky: Yeah. It is like a teenager who's doesn't want to talk to his parents. That is what it is like. That is how they sound to me.   Matthew: They just get close to the microphone [Inaudible 00:19:57].   Becky: I am pretty sure that's how they do it.   Matthew: You know the mumblers.   Becky: Yeah. Oh my God. Oh…   Matthew: Mumble core.   Becky: I dislike…the mattress you stole from…What is wrong with you people? Have we not heard of hygiene? I mean.   Matthew: They, no.   Becky: Bleach? anything. Please, dear God.   Matthew: You have the money. Please buy a new mattress.   Becky: Yeah. You could buy 50 or 40, however.   Matthew: I think we should make several pleas here. The first is please send us pizza or cake whenever you so desire. Check out the Website.   Becky: Oh, yes.   Matthew: whatthelyrics.com.   Becky: Nice one. I am glad you pulled that one because I didn’t. I was not even thinking about it.   Matthew: And specifically, we are going to make a plead directly to The Chainsmokers to use their money, put their money to good use and buy a new mattress. You deserve it, Casper mattresses.   Becky: Just buy a new mattress every year because if this song is any indication of what you are going through and doing. Maybe even every six months.   Matthew: Wait; was the name of the song? Remind me.   Becky: Closer.   Matthew: That is a closer. Well, that will be.   Becky: I don't want to get closer. I don't want to get closer to that mattress. I don't want to get closer to them. I don't want to get closer to anything in this song. I don't understand. Why are we just glossing over your alcoholism? That is like a one-liner. Like yeah! I know I drink too much. It is all right.   Matthew: No, it is not a problem.   Becky: I am a throw up on that mattress you stole from your roommate. Then I am going to pass out, blackout and pee on it like…   Matthew: You are going to love it.   Becky: Oh and why do you want to take that back?   Matthew: No, instead of closer. That was will be our closer.   Becky: Oh, I like it.   Matthew: Well, what will we be talking about next time?   Becky: Next time. Its party anthems.   Matthew: What kind of party anthems?   Becky: Yeah, it’s kinda open… children's birthday party. So party anthems I took to mean a song that everyone sings along to has their own kind of version of it when they sing. Or is like the go to karaoke one or like the end of the night drunky song that everybody sings drunk to. That is what I kind of took as the party anthem.   Matthew: I have mine. I don't know if it's from 2008, but it's probably close.   Becky: Minds of course, from the 80s. This I believe, is the first one that does not fit into the me too movement theme. I finally found one.   Matthew: We’re doing good work.   Becky: Maybe I can work it there. I got to look at the lyrics again, but I'm pretty sure it's not really, me too. It is more stalker-y.   Matthew: Okay, in the family of but not directly under the category.   Becky: Yeah, there is no overt booty references.   Matthew: Mambo number 5?   Becky: There is no donkey… ass   Matthew: With a monkey   Becky: Yeah, no big old butt kind of thing.   Matthew: Not yet.   Becky: Not yet. Although I don't know. It would be hilarious to have this. Yes next time. Party anthems. I cannot wait for mine.   Matthew: Well, I am excited and we will talk ‘atcha then?   Becky: Yes. Talk to you soon.   [Music playing]   [End 00:24:00]

In this episode Becky and Matthew delve deep into the late 80s and the early 2000s hip hop.  Will it be a hip hop battle to end all battles?   What the Lyric? Rap/Hip-Hop   [Start 00:00:00]   Music: [00:00:07]   Becky: Welcome to What the Lyric?, the podcast that confirms. Yeah, that actually made it to radio.   Welcome to What the Lyric? Today we are talking about hip-hop, the rap. I don't know what else I'd call it.   Matthew: The rap.   Becky: The rap.   Matthew: I mean you are talking to the two white people in the room talking about hip-hop. That is what this episode is.   Becky: I know. Oh, this is going to go down horribly. Although I do love my 80s, rap and I love the old Run DMC stuff before Aerosmith. Who else is in there? I am trying to think. A tribe called Quest. Although I cannot remember if they were 80s or not. It all runs together now for me. Then, of course, Public Enemy. I don't think that was 80s. Maybe they were 80s. Oh, my God. Yeah. Oh, there is a lot in there. 3rd Bass. That is right; I pull out 3rd Base, which you will never know. But the one guy in 3rd Base, a white guy is now like a baseball historian at Cooperstown, if I remember correctly.   Matthew: That is a turn career.   Becky: Yeah, Pete Nice. Was it Pete Nice? Oh I don't think it was Pete Nice. I cannot remember who it was now.   Matthew: Was it was not Pete Townsend? Becky: No, now I am going to have to look it up. Who were the members of 3rd Base? Yeah, so that is where I am coming from.   Matthew: Interesting. Mine, you know. Like, that is all I really need to say. We actually had a very interesting discussion at the end of the last episode talking about where does R&B begin versus hip-hop specifically.   Becky: Yes.   Matthew: I approach hip-hop from the more R&B side. So I am thinking Beyoncé, Lemonade.   Becky: All right, okay.   Matthew: To an extent, Drake, although he is not my favourite.   Becky: Oh God!   Matthew: And then smaller artists, particularly from the HBO show Insecure, has some very good hip-hop…   Becky: See I don’t know that.   Matthew: References. TT the artists. What is the name of the song? Is featured in it. She is great. Now I will have to introduce you to it. Then, of course, where would we be? But two people, two white people talking about hip hop. Also, listen to the entirety of Hamilton and needed to get said. There it is. It has been said we can now glaze past it.   Becky: I only know the Alexander Hamilton [Making sound 00:2:56]. I don't know anything else.   Matthew: That is all you need to know. That is what the musical is.   Becky: Yeah, I. Oh, man. I think I was right with Pete Nice. What did I say? Oh, my God.   Matthew: You did say Pete Nice.   Becky: Yeah. There is MC Serch and Pete Nice, but I feel like. Yeah. Pete Nice. Baseball historian, I had it right the first time.   Matthew: Well, with a band name like 3rd Base, you kind of have to.   Becky: They had a song called The Cactus.   Matthew: Why?   Becky: I can't even remember. I just remember The Cactus. I am sure I still have that CD somewhere. But yeah, The Cactus.   Matthew: I love.   Becky: I cannot even remember. It is all gone. It is so bad; they did have a big hit. What was their big hit?   Matthew: Was, it baseball related?   Becky: No, surprisingly. You would think with a name like 3rd Base. Pop goes the weasel.   Matthew: Oh.   Becky: From 1991. I remember that. That sounds like a hit. I did not have that one. I had the Cactus album and that was eighty-nine derelicts of dialect, which had the pop, goes the weasel. Yep, that was ninety-one. That was when I graduated high school.   Matthew: I won't say where I was at the time.   Becky: And a hoodie [Laughing], moving on. All right. I am going to let you go first this time.   Matthew: All right. So like I said, my primary job on this podcast is to serve as millennial ambassador.   Becky: And I am the only.   Matthew: There is a generation, obviously listen to this podcast. Who is waiting for your songs, too?   Becky: I am sure.   Matthew: But I want to bring them up to speed in case they hopefully missed it.   Becky: I would also like to point out I am representing old school with my older school tortoiseshell old schools.   Matthew: Wow! Well done. Actually…   Becky: I did not even think about that. I just put them on this morning.   Matthew: I should as a side note, give Becky more credit for being much more fashionable than me. I mean, because I have just got like these shitty Nike…   Becky: No   Matthew: Running shoes and blue jeans.   Becky: It is Old Navy jeans and Adidas. It is not really fashionable, it is just comfortable.   Matthew: As we should.   Becky: As my vsco [Inaudible 00:5:26] said.   Matthew: Oh, I forgot the vsco queen of this podcast.   Becky: Yeah, the old lady vsco queen.   Matthew: So really, this song I remember driving to high school, I think senior year of high school.   Becky: Okay.   Matthew: This song is being played a lot.   Becky: 2008?   Matthew: 2008   Becky: Okay.   Matthew: Right. I was graduating high school that year.   Becky: Lord, have mercy, okay.   Matthew: And more specifically, I am trying to think. Where do I go with this? I am not really sure, but let me just say…   Becky: 2008 [Inaudible 00:6:09]   Matthew: There you go. Very fluent in Spanish.   Becky: Is he like Pitbull?   Matthew: Oh, nailed it, yes. And it was his first song. Because I was going to say, like oh! He is like…   Becky: The one with Robin Thicke?   Matthew: I did not know there was one, but that really disturbs me.   Becky: Where he sing I don't like it. I love it, love it, love it. Oh, is that Pitbull? That is Pitbull.   Matthew: Probably.   Becky: yeah, oh boy.   Matthew: This is his first one. He speaks a lot of Spanish and again, since I am incredibly white. Even though I grew up in Texas, I know no Spanish. Because I took French in high school for whatever…   Becky: Yeah, I took German.   Matthew: For whatever godforsaken reason. But my favourite my favourite thing about Pitbull is the fact that he can't decide on a nickname. He is either Mr. 305 or he is Mr. Worldwide, which therefore implies that the entirety of the 305 area code is actually the world to either him, which could either be very sweet, or the fact that he doesn't travel a lot.   Becky: 305, Miami, I am assuming?   Matthew: Yes.   Becky: Yeah, okay.   Mathew: So that is where he is from. I am assuming he is Cuban. No offense to Mr. Pitbull, if he eventually listens to this podcast…   Becky: I think he is.   Matthew: Which I highly doubt.   Becky: I am sure he is a big fan.   Matthew: Obviously.   Becky: Can't wait to get fan mail about that one.   Matthew: So really, the song that he chose was I know you want me. Becky: Mm hmm.   Matthew: Which makes several assumptions that I think Pitbull has not quite figured out. I am not sure there, is a huge audience who is craving his music, but nonetheless, he still posits that people do want him. Again, most of it is in Spanish. So I will skip those parts because quite simply, I just did not take the time to Google translate any of it. The bad lyrics for it. I give it minus one point for repetitiveness…   Becky: Yeah.   Matthew: Because some of it is simply. I know you want me, want me. Then it is like…   Becky: oh, God, I don't remember.   Matthew: You know I want you, want you. Then it just repeats multiple times. I will not go into that. There is a lot of just, word association.   Becky: Yeah, okay.   Matthew: I know that Good hip-hop. You can do word association. And it makes sense and it flows. Pitbull just being like, oh, shit. Got it right. Like you can you can hear him like a train barrels towards the end.   Becky: Those are make the favourite raps. Post Malone, I hate that guy so much for this. At one point, he says something. He is trying to rhyme something. Instead of saying Luck Roy, he is says Lecroy, so he can rhyme it. First off, I hate that damn drink anyways. Second, you cannot even pronounce it right. Why? Just so you can fit in your little rap. Mr. Syracuse? I don't think so.   Matthew: Oh, he is from Syracuse.   Becky: Yeah.   Matthew: Congrats. Another New York native like Becky.   Becky: Yeah. I did not get all the face tats, though.   Matthew: Not yet, you are young.   Becky: Working on it. I am working on it.   Matthew: Pitbull goes on to say, you know, stick to the clock on my way to the top, which I am like, okay. He is being timed. One assumes.   Becky: Yeah.   Matthew: I do not think that is necessarily a bad lyric. Then there is just a weird word association, so like Pit got it locked from Bruce to the lock her. The bruise, b-r-e-w-u-s according to the lyrics, I find that amusing. RIP so rest in peace…   Becky: Yeah.     Matthew: Huh, Big and PAC. P-A-C, I don't know if that's like the…   Becky: Biggie and Pac? Biggie and 2Pac   Matthew: That is what I am assuming, right?   Becky: Yeah, okay.   Matthew: So it is like ok, he is doing due diligence as one does in hip-hop by making references.   Becky: Yeah.   Matthew: So far he has not necessarily run afoul of anything, he said premise.   Becky: He is also hitting both coasts like he's trying and play Sweden…   Matthew: Right?   Becky: Yeah.   Matthew: Even though he very clearly raps the east coast by being like Mr 305 checking in for the Remix.   Becky: Yet it is also Miami like it's not New York vs LA…   Matthew: You can calm down.     Becky: Hip-hop, yeah.   Matthew: He extends his condolences to both of them, and then disses himself.   Becky: Many years kind of late too, by the way.   Matthew: This is where I started to get concerned. As far as bad lyrics and also his self-esteem, because he immediately feels like R.I.P too Bigg and Pac. That he is not, but damn, he is hot. So what that implies to me is, Pitbull is actually saying that, oh, actually I'm not nearly as talented as Bigg and Pac, which I was like…   Becky: Truth,   Matthew: Which is just truth.   Becky: Truth.   Matthew: I do appreciate it. Then he has to saddle himself like, you know, I can never be them, but I am attractive. And that's still a stretch.   Becky: Yeah, I would say to 2Pac is probably better looking than him in my opinion.   Matthew: I would agree.  I am inclined to agree. Pitbull, He has a face like a pit bull.   Becky: He does, there is a reason he have that name. Yeah.   Matthew: I don't know what it is, but I can assume it's his face.   Becky: Yeah.   Matthew: And so continuing. What is even weirder is that he is like the label flop. So he's already saying that like whatever label he's on is going to flop presumably because of his songs like that doesn't inspire confidence. So it's like again, a diss at the start. Then he says, but Pitt won't stop. Label flop, but Pitt won't stop.   Becky: Wait a minute. Maybe what he is saying is, you know, I like when you would be like, oh, my God, I am totally failing this test. Then you nail it like he's psyching himself out, like I am the shittiest rapper. Then boom! Platinum.   Matthew: Huge fame. I don’t know if this ever went platinum. I would be surprised, but also not surprised if that were to happen.   Becky: You never know.   Matthew: But he is always starting with the dislike that he is not. But damn, he's hot. Label flop. But Pitt won't stop. And I'm like, ok. Then very left turn. Got her in the car playing with his como. And that's where he answered Spanish. Oh, wait, why are you having sex in a car? I am not surprised.   Becky: Yeah.   Matthew: But he was like, I am going to be an amazing rapper. Oh no, getting my dick sucked in a car.   Becky: Well, all right. I mean, you know, to each his own is all I am saying. You granted it back in the day…   Matthew: So, we should let Pitbull have his own.   Becky: Whatever makes him happy? You do you. Live your best life.   Matthew: Right. And this is where the associations continue because right. In two lines, He has gone from being like, I am sorry that Biggie died…   Becky: Yeah.   Matthew: And Tupac died. The label is going to flop. I mean, but I am going to keep making music. I am receiving oral in our car. Then he says, watch him make a movie like Alfred Hitchcock. Ha! Enjoy me.   Becky: Has, he made a movie?   Matthew: No, not at all. None. I don't think he's directed his own music videos. If he has, I can tell you the music one for this one. Looks like it was directed by…   Becky: I might know somebody who has done a video with him.   Matthew: Did they direct it?   Becky: No. He is a cinematographer. Curious at least he picked a good director.   Matthew: Right.   Becky: Alfred Hitchcock.   Matthew: He was not choosing…   Becky: One of my favourites.   Matthew: I am trying to think of who would be a bad director.   Becky: Well, the guy did. Oh, God. What is that movie that? James Franco did a movie about him that won an award, but he did not.   Matthew: Tommy Wiseau.   Becky: Yeah.   Matthew: Watch him make a movie like Tommy Wiseau. Huh! Enjoy me.   Becky: See, that works a little better for this.   Matthew: It actually does.   Becky: If he could have just let us edit his words, he would be spot on. Yeah, either him. I am trying to think Ed Wood.   Matthew: What does he do? I don't think I know, Ed Wood.   Becky: Oh, you have to go back and watch an Ed Wood movie. I think one of my favourites, which is called Jail Bait. And there's this weird 1950s. There is this weird, depending on which version you get. There is this weird kind of like guitar piece in it that keeps showing up randomly throughout and you think it is there to like build tension, but you are like, [Inaudible 00:15:01] just threw that guitar riff in there for no real reason. It is like you have flamenco, kind of. I don't know how to describe it, but it's hilarious. Johnny Depp actually starred is him in a movie called Ed Wood. He was pretty epic at making like B movies where you're like, what! is going on here? Plan 9 from outer space, I think is him…   Matthew: Oh! Okay,   Becky: Yes. Jailbait is probably my favourite.   Matthew: I will have to check these out. Thank you for the movie recommendation. The last time I recommended Repo the Genetic Opera.   Becky: Yeah. Plan 9 from outer space…   Matthew: Jailbait first.   Becky: Jailbait though is my favourite and I used to own it on VHS. That is how old I am.   Matthew: Oh yeah. If it makes you feel any better. I was acquainted with VHS.   Becky: Yeah. I am the VHS. Oh God! That movie was so good. So bad, it was so good. I am sure it is him, Jailbait. It has to be. He has done so many, and I think he did with like Vampira. Yeah, that is Ed Wood. Oh, so many. Oh, yeah. Glen or Glenda? Also a classic. Mm hmm. Genius of a man.   Matthew: That is incredible.   Becky: I wish there were more like him out there that could do these kinds of movies.   Matthew: We can only aspire too. But I mean, also Pittbull could aspire to, be the Ed Wood but currently he wants to be Alfred Hitchcock.   Becky: That is not happening.   Matthew: But when I was really thinking about this, I was like, what? You know, in my limited experience with hip-hop, what lyric stand out to me is like the worst things I can think of.   Becky: Yeah.   Matthew: And this one stood out in my brain, has not left my brain for the past eleven years, and presumably will not be my brain until I die. It is this line.   Becky: Okay.   Matthew: Because remember, the rest is repetitive. Mommy got an ass like a donkey with a monkey look like King Kong. Welcome to the crib. Now, granted, also, I do need to…   Becky: Okay.   Matthew: Make a very specific point that when I say mommy, it sounds like I am talking about…   Becky: Mom. Matthew: Right.   Becky: And actual Mom   Matthew: Its spell M-A-M-I. It is Spanish. I am incredibly white. I cannot make this work. I need you to know...   Becky: Mommy and Pappy.   Matthew: Yes. Exactly. Like he is clearly talking about an attractive young woman.   Becky: A lady friend.   Matthew: Quite honestly, does not make me feel any better about it because he's dancing. She has an ass like a donkey, which I do. I will give him credit for the association…   Becky: That is good little…   Matthew: Word played.   Becky: Yeah.   Matthew: It is like saying like, oh, hurray. I can do this wordplay. But I forgot that this is implying that I would fuck a duck.   Becky: Yeah. Yeah, like a donkey got a sweet booty. Yeah…ewe.   Matthew: An ass like a donkey and he says monkey. Like a donkey with a monkey. Then why with a monkey? She specifically has an ass like a donkey that has a monkey. Look like King Kong. Now, does he mean the woman? Does he mean the monkey? Or does he mean the donkey?   Becky: It is all very offensive. However, you look at it, every part of that is offensive. Like there is not a moment where you go, well, that is very flattering. I appreciate that. No, nothing like. Where does the monkey come in? That is just to make the rhyme, clearly.   Matthew: Now, would you be flattered if a man would actually say you have an ass like a donkey.   Becky: That is like Sisqo she got dumps like a truck, truck, truck.   Mathew: Okay I did forget about that.   Becky: The Thong Song, and then there is Wreckx-n-Effect with the rump shaker. There is another one, actually. This is a perfect lead in mine.   Matthew: Done, I was like, honestly, that I just want to say for the audience at home, that lyric haunts me to this day and I truly wish that it haunts you as well.   Becky: Great. Okay and mine is from 1989.   Matthew: That was prior to around the time of conception but definitely not [Inaudible 00:19:48].   Becky: Okay. So mine is from 1989 and I remember this song so I'm going to read the first part of it. I was at the mall sipping on a milkshake, playing the wall, taking a break. Admiring the girls with the bamboo earrings, baby hair and bodies built to swing. That is when I seen her. Name was Tina. Grace and Poise, kind of like a ballerina. I say how you doing? My name's big L don't ask me how I'm living because yo, I'm live in swell. But then again, I am living kind of foul because my girl don't know that I'm out on the prowl. To make a long story short, I got the digits.  Calls, one that drives me crazy. Calls her on my car phone and paid her a visit. I was spanking her, thanking her, chewing her, and doing her. Land like a king and sat on sheets of Satin. Well, that is what time it is. You know what is happening? She had a big old booty, and I am doing my duty.   I mean, yo, I admit that girls cutie. But Tina was erratic, Earl is my witness with the kind of legs that put stockings out of business. I went home. I kissed my girl on the cheek, but in the back of my mind was this big butt freak. I fat my girl down. I could not hold it in, and that is when I said to her, with a devilish grin. Tina got a big old butt. Matthew: That was a perfect Segway. Becky: Yeah, then it goes on. I know I told you I would be true. But Tina got a big old butt, so I'm leaving you. So this is LL Cool J, big old butt.   Matthew: This is LL Cool J?   Becky: Oh, my God. He has another one called Backseat in my Jeep, which is another one of my favourites, one of the lyrics said. It is like backseat of my Jeep. We swing an ep. So you could not say episode, he had to shorten it down to ep to sound hard.   Matthew: Wow   Becky: But yes, the whole song has him bouncing around from girl to girl with big old butts. So then, he moves on to I believe it is Brenda. Who he met at high school. Mm hmm.   Matthew: That's, you know, usually where this occurs.   Becky: Then he goes to Red Lop, so he started at the mall. Then he goes to the high school.   Matthew: Have we confirmed that he too is in high school?   Becky: Oh, I don't think so at this time.   Matthew: Oh, yikes.   Becky: Yeah. Mm hmm. He went to the high school about three o'clock. So clearly, he is not in high school.   Matthew: Oh.   Becky: To try and catch cutie. Riding my jock.   Matthew: That is a popular line.   Becky: I have not heard that a long time. She had that kind of booty that I always remember. I would say to my man, stop the jeep. She is only 17, but yo, don't sleep. So again, I have a theme for this series, apparently.   Matthew: You sure you do. I like 2008. You like rape song.   Becky: Yeah. I don't know what it is. Then he put the big booty on a bearskin rug.   Matthew: Wow! Why the fuck does, he have a bearskin rug?   Becky: He got satin sheets and a bearskin rug. LL…   Matthew: He just fuck so much.   Becky: He is on point as far as like 70s porn house.   Matthew: Easily. He call Hugh Hefner and I was like, can I fuck as many girls in your house as possible?   Becky: Yeah. I like I scope the booty like a big game hunter. I said to the girl, you, you look tired. Let's go get some rest. Relax by the fire.   Matthew: Oh, okay. Naked.   Becky: Apparently.   Matthew: But that is a terrible way to lay naked, because let us all remember that fires only come in one direction.   Becky: Yes, so half of you is sweating to death. The other half is freezing and you are on a bearskin rug. So now, half of you is sweating with bear fur stuck to you. Everything about this is wrong.   Matthew: That is so erotic. Becky: Then if you move to like the satin she. She just like right off. like nothing about it is good. Yeah. Oh, he also grabbed a pack of bullets and pulled out the steel. So how about that?   Matthew: The steel?   Becky? How about that for slang for putting a condom on?   Matthew: Okay.   Becky: Yep. Then he gets back, and he goes to Tina. I am going with Brenda now because she got a big old butt. So he's leaving you.   Matthew: Wow!   Becky: Later on, he goes to Red Lobster. For shrimp and steak, as it says, it must be the next day because we are at lunchtime now, because this is around the time when the waitresses are on lunch break. You know, he is hanging his bro, then he meet Lisa, one thing leads to another. And he's got to tell Brenda.   Matthew: It is time for her to go.   Becky: Yeah.   Matthew: Wait! What is the name of the song? Remind me.   Becky: Big ole butt.   Matthew: Big ole butt. It is just butt?   Becky: This was on the radio.   Matthew: Constantly.   Becky: Yeah, I remember this. Yeah.   Matthew: This is…   Becky: Big ole butt.   Matthew: Fascinating.   Becky: Hmmm. LL Cool J 1989.   Matthew: Assinating that is what I am going to call it.   Becky: It is assinating. I mean, he just. You know, I out and about. Maybe pulled in the parking lot, and parked his car. Somebody shouted out. I don't care who you are, I pay no attention. I walk inside because Brian had a nine and he was chilling in the ride. I got to be honest, I don't know what the hell that means.   Matthew: That is so weird.   Becky: Shrimp and Steak was not the only thing cooking.   Matthew: What?   Becky: Yeah.   Matthew: Although this does make you feel better that like consistently hip-hop artist, do you go to Red Lobster after they are fucking because, you know, Beyoncé is like… like,   Becky: Yeah.   Matthew: Fuck him so good. I don’t remember.   Becky: Yeah.   Matthew: Basically the sex so good that she's like, I take his ass to Red Lobster and now turns out LL Cool J originated the like lets go to lobster.   Becky: I feel Beyoncé is lying on this one.   Matthew: She would never…   Becky: Jay Z…..Red Lobster.   Matthew: There are multiple things like really…   Becky: For reals, yeah. But this girl Lisa was like, you got a girl and it don't matter. You are looking tastier than a piping hot pizza. Then he of course, I don't know why this was something he thought the ladies are going to enjoy this line. When she walked out the door, I threw my tongue down her throat.   Matthew: Ewe.   Becky: No.   Matthew: Also, that is a terrible verb for it. Like I threw it down her throat.   Becky: I don't want you touching my tonsils. The doctor is the old one who should be touching my tonsils and my uvula, and I love that term uvula.   Matthew: Even there on him fucking ice when they touch your tonsils.   Becky: Yeah. Dentist if necessary. No. And of course, this is the 80s. Late 80s after he has done his business. He grabs his pants and put on his kangol.   Matthew: Wow. It is the 80s.   Becky: Yeah. Then who did I see? Oh, yow it was Brenda. Yow, she worked at Red Lobster but I did not remember.   Matthew: Wow!   Becky: Lisa got a big ole butt. Matthew: Wait, he bring Lisa to Red Lobster.   Becky: He picked up Lisa a Red Lobster, but forgot Brenda also worked at Red Lobster.   Mathew: LL Cool J, what the hell are you doing.   Becky: I mean you just getting yourself into a train wreck. Yeah-Big Ole Butt.   Matthew: Wow! That is…   Becky: I can still hear the whole thing in my head. Brenda got a big ole butt it is awesome. I will listen to it tomorrow at work.   Matthew: See what I appreciate. I feel like with very few exceptions, most of the songs that we choose are so lovable.   Becky: Oh, I am still going to listen to him.   Matthew: In spite of the bad lyrics.   Becky: Except for two. The first one we did. Which is that James Arthur piece of trash.   Matthew: Yes.   Becky: That one, never. Like I will listen to it because I am being forced to. Because somebody wants to see me go what the fuck is? Does anyone not listen to this.   Matthew: Is anyone hearing this?   Becky: Yeah. Then there is another song. That is right up there for me. That every time it comes on I am like no. There is no way, no how, nope.   Matthew: What is it?   Becky: Oh, you will find out because it is going to be, I think, on our next episode.   Matthew: Oh, this will be interesting.   Becky: Yeah, yes.   Matthew: Actually. You know what. I realized we mistakenly forgot to do for our last episode.  We need to give…   Becky: We keep doing this.   Matthew: We have to assign a yikes.   Becky: We did not assign a yikes. Then we also forgot that we do have a Web site.   Matthew: You, know what? People who are bingeing this up.   Becky: Yeah.   Matthew: You will been binge these episode…   Becky: And you will know. It is just whatthelyric.com. I mean, really make sense.   Matthew: Exactly.   Becky: The yikes factor on this one for me. Oh God. I love it.   Matthew: Yeah. That is the thing where it is like honestly.   Becky: Hmm.   Matthew: Well, it depends. Right. Because it is like infidelity.   Becky: Yeah.   Matthew: That is not pleasant. But lyrics purely on lyrics alone. I think that is where we have to go with.   Becky: It is a little like that holiday song. Baby its cold outside where people like, oh, my God, that is awful.   Matthew: Oh, yes.   Becky: We should never play it again, but we remove it out of the context of the time that it was done in. And granted, it's never okay to be pushy with a woman at the same time. Is 1940s much like shipoopi with 1950s. It is not like somebody is writing up, redoing shipoopi.   Matthew: To make it…   Becky: Yeah.   Matthew: Hip and also consensual.   Becky: Though maybe I will give it a go.   Matthew: I hope you do.   Becky: I am going to do the female version of it.   Matthew: He poufy?   Becky: What would that be? Oh, no.   Matthew: He is shitty.   Becky: Oh that, I am writing it down. He is shitty. Okay I am writing down he is shitty, and then this is my assignment. Okay, it is going to take a while, but I will come up with something.   Matthew: Love it. That should be the season finally.   Becky: [Inaudible 00:30:35] shitty. Matthew: Debuting.   Becky: Oh, if only I knew someone who could get like Peter Griffin to read it. It would be amazing. Yeah, so on the yike scale. For me, I just…sigh, [Inaudible 00:30:56] is a tough one for me because I have seen interviews and he's just Mr. Positive.   Matthew: I know.   Becky: So you cant really hate him, but God. His lyrics are awful.   Matthew: The lyrics are bad. I give it, trying to be unbiased, but I can't.   Becky: Yeah.   Matthew: Like I would say a solid 3, I'm almost out of 4. But the positivity and honestly the rest of it is like huh! Most of this is in Spanish. You just mistakenly said that you wanted to fuck a donkey with a monkey around or on the donkey.   Becky: Yeah, Maybe it is just the setting. He did not express what the setting was. Like they are out on a beach, some tropical beach where there is wild animals.   Matthew: That is true, and also, I feel like it's one of those things where it's like Pitbull is the Tobias Funke of hip hop.   Becky: Really? He is.   Matthew: Because he said shit where he is like, oh, I want it. It sounds like he wants to fuck this animal. But really, it's like I just blow myself.   Becky: Yeah.   Matthew: That is the equivalent.   Becky: Yeah.   Matthew: I just blew myself.   Becky: Yeah, I think you are right. I think he is. Yeah. Matthew: So I will give it a three.   Becky: See, I am going four. I feel like he's never really offended, like he's not. There is nothing super offensive about it. Like the donkey, butt thing is probably the worst. But that kind of rolls back on him, I mean.   Matthew: He did let these lyrics…..he both…   Becky: Yeah.   Matthew: Helped write and perform these lyrics.   Becky: Yeah. I am going with a four on that one.   Matthew: [Inaudible 00:32:30]   Becky: LL Cool J on the other hand. He is like right up there. I am going with like one is like the end all be all the yuck factor. Is that what we said before? I probably do it all around.   Matthew: No. I forget… honestly I do also forget what the scale is. For the purposes of this podcast and moving forward.   Becky: Yeah.   Matthew: One is the worst. Five is the least offensive.   Becky: I am saying Pitbull is low grade offensive.   Matthew: Yes, okay. I would agree.   Becky: Yeah. On the scale, he is low grade. LL Cool J In the 80s, full on offensive like that whole song is epically like wow! In every way. I feel like I need a crying game shower after listening that. Also same deal with backseat of my jeep. But I still listen to them.   Matthew: You got to love them.   Becky: Kind of Religiously. Yeah, so I would give them. Backseat of my jeep, which I really wish I had kind of done too. And big ole butt more like two for me. Matthew: Okay, see I was leaning much more toward four for with this.   Becky: Oh!   Matthew: I will say I am a product if nothing but of my generation.   Becky: Yeah.   Matthew: You have to remember, like, boom. Twenty-three. Robin Thicke Blurred Lines come out.   Becky: Yeah.   Matthew: Suddenly someone being like I am having sex with a lot of these women and in really inconvenient places. But I'm only referring to their butt, I'm referring to their butts as butts and not like she's got a fine ass on her like a donkey.   Becky: Yeah.   Matthew: So I am kind of like this is heart-warming. He is only calling it a butt. And, you know, it's like he is problematic in different ways, but not as bad as…   Becky: Oh.   Matthew: You know, raping people, raping and pillaging.   Becky: Yeah, he was definitely rapey. Yeah, I'm going…     Matthew: I like spread, though.   Becky: Apparently so did LL Cool J. Seems to be a common theme in the rap.   Matthew: They all like the spread.   Becky: Even some of the ladies. Yeah. God, I am trying to think who is the one. There was one Lil Kim who you can't even… doesn't even look like she used to. I was like that's not a Lil Kim. Oh, my God, it is. Yeah, she liked the spread, so to speak.   Matthew: Oh, I agree. But I feel like this is product. I feel like we hit some high notes in hip-hop. Becky: Yes. We went with the tried and true. The old school, like one of the godfathers of hip-hop, sort of. More popular hip-hop.   Matthew: And one of the parasite's.   Becky: Yes. Exactly I mean, God love your Pitbull.   Matthew: But is he even making music? I am sure he is.   Becky: Guarantee tomorrow we will be like, oh…   Matthew: The newest Pitbull song.     Becky: He just drop the deuce, so to speak.  That is kind of wrapping it up on the hip-hop. Oh, I pull a dad joke. Next time, we are just going rogue and we are picking whatever, the hell we want. And I will tell you, I have a doozy.   Matthew: I have no doubts. Oh, I should have thought of No Doubt.   Becky: No   Matthew: [Inaudible 00:36:06] hole But we will save that for next.   Becky: Oh, all right. So next time it is our free for all. And we will talk to you guys then.   [Music playing]   [End 00:36:35]

Join Becky and Matthew as they turn their attention to musicals - both the broadway kind and the movie musical kind.  One is from the golden age of Broadway.  The other is from a little know movie opera from 2008.  Both deserve to be skewered.   What the Lyrics? Musicals [Start 00:00:00]   Becky: Hey, guys, just a quick note. When we went to record this, I left my headphones at home so I couldn't hear the funky noises that were happening when I was banging on the table during this discussion because I was so excited and heated about this discussion of musical songs. I apologize for that. Hopefully doesn't interfere with you loving the episode and liking us a million times and telling your friends about how awesome we are. With that said, I hope you enjoy it, and next time I will remember my headphones.   Music playing [00:00:38-00:00:45]   Becky: Welcome to What the Lyric? The podcast that confirms, yeah, that actually made it to radio. Welcome to Episode 3 of What the Lyric? Today we are talking musicals. How are you doing Matt?   Matthew: I am doing pretty well considering how much research I had to do into bad musicals, of which there are many.   Becky: There are a lot and a lot have made money, which is the part that I don't quite get. I am not sure how they made money because they were so bad.   Matthew: Agreed, and I took a broad stance on the definition of musicals. So thinking more along the lines of not just Broadway musicals, but off Broadway and basically movie musicals.   Becky: It was the movie ones that I was kind of like, do I go Disney? Because Disney has some crap lyrics, or I could go to all the stuff, we did when I was in high school. What did we do? We did Grease, but we had to change the lyrics on some of the stuff because it was too racy.   Matthew: Such as?     Becky: In one of the songs about him meeting. It was some weird slang for condom, but we could use it. Matthew: Was it rubber?   Becky: It was not using. I don't think it was. I would have to look it up but I think it was rubber. I feel like it was something like balloon or something. But you knew what it was when he was thinking about it. So we had to kind of do like the radio edit and go [sound 00:2:30] or something in it so that you filled in the blank.   Matthew: Which teenager does not know about condoms?   Becky: Oh my god. It was in the 1990s.   Matthew: Oh, they really did not know about condom.     Becky: 1991, so we should have. I mean it was all coming up then so we should have left it in there but no.   Matthew: I mean our high school did Wizard of Oz. That is very wholesome to an extent considering the fans, I don’t know, destruction.   Becky: Yeah. The Wizard of Oz. What else do we do? Of course, there is always music Man Fiddler on the Roof.   Matthew: South Pacific.   Becky: You guys had some serious production.   Matthew: I did not say it was good.   Becky: High school musicals are very rarely good. I mean, let us be realistic on that one. I went back to my high school musical roots for mine.   Matthew: I think that is a perfect segue way into me asking   Becky: Okay.   Matthew: Where did you go?   Becky: All right.   Matthew: Take us back.   Becky: We are going back to and in the movie sung by Buddy Hackett, who I remember from when I was younger and he was an older man who I have this vague recollection of him being like a dirty old man kind of guy.   Matthew: I mean he was way. Wait, when was this made?   Becky: 60-65, let us say. I want to say 65. No, Sorry. Well, the musical was 57; 62 was the movie.   Matthew: That was a generation of dirty old men.   Becky: Yeah, yeah. Also covered by the Family Guy and several other outlets. I am just in a dive right into it. You ready?   Matthew: I don't believe so, but I'm willing to listen.   Becky: I think this first group, set it up nicely. Well, a woman who will kiss you on the very first date is usually a hussy and a woman who will kiss you on the second time out is anything but fussy. But a woman who will wait till the third time around. Head in the cloud, feet on the ground. She is your girl. You are glad you found. She is your shipoopi, shipoopi, shipoopi. The girl who is hard to get shipoopi, shipoopi. shipoopi, but you can winner yet. Mm hmm. That is shipoopi from the Music Man.   Matthew: Wow.   Becky: The whole thing is yet again a me-too movement in song form.   Matthew: Do we have any historical context for, is shipoopi slang for anything. Do we..   Becky: I don't think so. When I was doing the research for this. I just typed in worst song in a musical ever, and it brought up like some sort of forum for Broadway musicals. And everybody was writing these dissertations and one person just wrote shipoopi. And that's really all you need because shipoopi, I mean you can't say without giggling either, before, after, during and it shipoopi. What is that?   Matthew: And they don't explain it? That is why I love that. He does not need to explain it. He is just like.   Becky: No.   Matthew: So she is playing hard to get or presumably saying no. But it was like men who are super into...   Becky: My guess is she probably hates this guy. Thinks he is a total dill hole, but yet he just keeps breaking her down by saying shipoopi in front of her. Like a playground thing. He just keeps calling her shipoopi. And eventually she breaks out and goes, okay, I guess that's the guy.   Matthew: That is the guy from me. You know, I was not going to have sex with him the first day. Then he said shipoopi about 17 more times.   Becky: You know when I met your father.   Matthew: [Laughing] he had cutest name for me.   Becky: All he said was shipoopi. He did not say anything. He just said shipoopi over and over and over again. And we thought he had been dropped on his head, but apparently not. And that's when I fell in love.   Matthew: I knew he was the one.   Becky: By the third day of shipoopi. That is when I knew.   Matthew: Wait. What is the bumper sticker slogan that is like? Sorry, like not having to say sorry.   Becky: Oh, I cannot. Yeah, I know the one you are talking about.   Matthew: I think it is from a movie. Something means not having to say you are sorry.   Becky: Yeah, shipoopi mean.   Becky and Matthew: Not having to say that you are sorry.   Becky: I'm going to just start filling in shipoopi when I can't remember the words, which is a lot of times now that we've found out we have Alzheimer's and dementia in the family. So now, all of us are forgetting everything. So we are just going to be like, you know, that time shipoopi, you know? Right. shipoopi and see, who knows. But yeah, I mean and it continues on in the kind of abusive way with squeezer once when she isn't looking.   Matthew: Who!   Becky: Who does that?   Matthew: Apparently Buddy Hackett.   Becky: I like if you get a squeeze back that is fancy cooking. I don't know anyone, any woman who would get squeezed and be like oh, oh well hello. Then squeeze back and mean it.   Matthew: It brings up a very viable point. Of where on the spectrum of being touched does being slapped follow like is it technically a squeeze?   Becky: It could be. Or she might have just grabbed him by his junk and was like, never do that again, if you want to keep this and then he said once more for a pepper upper, she'll never get sore on her way to supper. So all this is happening, I presumably on the first date?   Matthew: No, because then she will be a hussy. So would it be…?   Becky: Well, no. If you kissed her on the first date, is she is usually a hussy.   Matthew: I see.   Becky: The second date it is your borderline because a woman who you kiss the second time out is anything but fussy. She is, you know, almost out to pasture. Then the third time around, that is the gal.   Matthew: Okay, got you.   Becky: If on the third day you squeeze her and she squeezes you back, home run.   Matthew: Fancy cooking.   Becky: Yeah, It is fancy cooking and a home run. Then once more up for a pepper upper. If you do it again and she is game, then you have just won the World Series, I guess.   Matthew: Marry this woman.   Becky: Yeah. Yeah. I cannot even.   Matthew: I feel like this song is a good example of like, is it bad lyrics? Because in the 50s and 60s, you had no way of just saying like, oh, we are banging on the bathroom floor.   Becky: Yeah. I mean.   Matthew: There is a lot of euphemisms for sex here. Fancy Cook and Pepper upper.   Becky: Well, pepper upper. I think drugs. I think we are looking for like an upper. Like maybe, a little ecstasy or I don't know, special k. Do kids still do that? Is that even a drugs?   Matthew: I think I am sure. I am a square, you are talking to the wrong person. I am impressed. I am assuming that most of these are euphemisms for sex.   Becky: I don't know. I should have asked my mother and father and be like, hey, when you guys were kids and talking about slang for sex. Did you ever go shipoopi or fancy cooking or pepper upper?   Matthew: Actually, there is still time. So like the follow up to this episode will be the [Inaudible 00:10:37]   Becky: I will call my parents after this.   Matthew: We will record it.   Becky: Quick question. It would not be any worse than, some of the questions my mom woken me up with her asking to, tell her what some slang means because somebody's at work, young kids that work mentioned and she didn't want to seem like she was not cool.   Matthew: Uncool.   Becky: Yeah. Tea bagging was one of them.   Matthew: Perfect. Never forget where you were. The moment your mom asks you.   Becky: No, I was not. I will not. I just gotten to work. And my mom called and she said, hey, look, I got a question for you, can you. What is tea bagging? I just walked in the door. Can I call you back after I call my therapist and get some coffee? And apparently it was during the whole like…   Matthew: Tea Party moment?   Becky: Tea Party stuff. And mom, they were joking. It said something about Tea Bagging and I had to explain tea bagging. It went downhill from there. Years of therapy for that one.   Matthew: That is fancy cooking.   Becky: And a pepper upper in the morning if you have to answer that question, yeah.   Matthew: To say the least.   Becky: [Laughing] you have no idea. I was like I'm sorry, what now? did you just ask me. I got to go. I need to call my therapist. And I’m actually my therapist right now, and the siren. Oh, Seattle full moon weekend. You are the best.   Matthew: I should have curse a lot more. Just so, we can edit it out.   Becky: I know, oh well. All right. So Matt, what did you go with?   Matthew: Since we will be releasing the other music episode, we did.   Becky: Yes.   Matthew: This is actually a redo by my request. Upon reflection, realized that I feel like I had not done my due diligence. Right. Because the purpose of this podcast is to find bad lyrics and call them out as they happen, even in songs that we love. Upon reflection, I realize that rent, the reason why I called out rent the way I did is because I fucking hate that musical.   Becky: The musicals is awful.   Matthew: The lyrics were not necessarily the problem. The content of the entire musical is what really bothered me.   Becky: Yeah. That is a whole other episode. Like we could take down the entire musical in one episode. Maybe that would be a probably a two-parter.   Matthew: Yes just for me.   Becky: There is an intermission in that play.   Matthew: Forty-five minutes of me bitching about this movie because of how much, I fucking hate rent.   Becky: Yeah.   Matthew: But I was like, you know the lyrics were not necessarily bad. I just hated the content. So then, I dug deep and ended up watching a movie musical from 2008.   Becky: 2008.   Matthew: The two biggest names would have been Paris Hilton, and Sarah Brightman.   Becky: what?   Matthew: Who famously.   Becky: Was married. To Andrew Lloyd Webber.   Matthew: The best play write of a generation.   Becky: I dislike that guy and all, he's written so much. I cannot. I just cannot. I cannot.   Matthew: Surprisingly, though, he did not write. It feels like this would have been something he wrote.   Becky: Paris Hilton and Sarah Brightman.   Matthew: I think they were the two biggest names. Also, the guy who played well, he was on Buffy. I think he was British.   Becky: Oh, yeah. Who then married…   Matthew: Giles.   Becky: Yeah. Who then married one of the other characters in that.   Matthew: Did not realize that.   Becky: Yeah.   Matthew: But he is in this movie as well. I ended up watching.   Becky: 2008.   Matthew: Eleven years ago.   Becky: God. Okay, 2008. I don't even know what happened in 2008.   Matthew: Financial crisis.   Becky: Okay.   Matthew: Well actually, that could play into this story.   Becky: Please tell me, they did a musical, The Wolf of Wall Street.   Matthew: I think that on is still in the works.   Becky: probably. What the hell?   Matthew: I don't really have any hints, but I will say that it is. Repo, the genetic opera, which if you have heard of or have not heard of, rather, is a movie musical from 2008. The overall plot of which is that everyone is getting cancer. Everyone is dying in this dystopian land. As they are dying, there is this one capitalistic company that says, oh, well, we have organs essentially for rent. We will give you these organs to keep you alive. But if you miss any payments, the repo man will come take the organ and you will die.   Becky: This feel like that Tom Cruise movie. What was that one? Similar? I don't know if it was similar. It is probably not, I just see Tom Cruise and then I go to my happy place because I cannot stand him either. Oh, well that is gone now. I have to look at.   Matthew: I feel like…   Becky: It is shipoopi. It is shipoopi.   Mathew: Tom Cruise in shipoopi.   Becky: I would see that. Actually, that would be something I would see.   Matthew: His voice undoubtedly is terrible.   Becky: That laugh, I needed that laugh.   Matthew: That is the overall plot of it. There are a lot of twists and turns in it. It is a real weird movie musical. I am not sure if I recommend it, but I do recommend watching it just so that you get context for how bad the song is. One of the main characters is a girl who is told that she has this terrible condition. She basically can't go outside.   Becky: Oh, my God. Like bubble boy?   Matthew: Exactly. Spoiler alert. Full spoiler alert. It is not real. Her dad was just like I told you that so you wouldn't leave an entry this like dystopian land, whatever. But the entire movie is incredibly angst. The main character, this little girl named Shiloh is 16. Then she celebrates her 17th birthday and she has a song about turning 17. That, is the song that I have picked. It is called 17 and I chose it. Not only because of how terrible the lyrics are, but also it is precisely a Goth version of 16 going on 17…   Becky: Thank you.                                                                                                           Matthew: From sound of music.   Becky: I was going to ask is it? Please tell me that it has something to do with, I am 16, going on 17. Minority Report was the movie I was thinking.   Matthew: Yeah, okay. I could see that.   Becky: Yeah, sorry.   Matthew: Sound of music. Right. It is super cute. She is falling in love with the Nazi.   Becky: Sad note, I have never seen it.   Matthew: Oh. Spoiler alert. She fall in love with the Nazi.   Becky: Yeah. I have never seen it, but I know it. I know all the lyrics, to that frickin musical as well.   Matthew: She is 16   Matthew and Becky: Going on 17.   Matthew: It gets repeated a lot. It is very cute. I think she is like very excited about that.   Becky: She dating a Nazi, wait.   Matthew: Yes.   Becky: Okay. Yep, there we go.   Matthew: She is dancing on a gazebo with him and she is very happy to turns 17. Shiloh in this movie, however, is very displeased to be 17. And what I will pause it here. Is that Repo the genetic opera for all of the bad lyrics, in fact, actually nails were being 17 is like. Let's take a look at the lyrics.   Becky: The title of the movie makes me think a repo man like an opera of the Repo Man, which would be kind of awesome. I don't know if you can still get Emilio Estevez.   Matthew: Probably not, but this is like a much dumber version of it. I still recommend watching it. Only if you are inebriated in some way, but don’t do drugs kids.   Becky: Yeah, that will be later on today.   Matthew: Yes. Alcohol or weed. That is as strong as my recommendation get.   Becky: That will be today.   Matthew: It is very angst. She cries out 17. Momma drama has to go dad. 17, nothing is going to bring her back. Oh, her mom is dead. Also spoiled alert. Her mom's dad. Hence mama dramas.   Becky: I thought maybe he had a couple of ladies on the side and he didn't know which one was the actual mother of this kid.   Matthew: Oh, no, he is not dating. But the daughter is distraught. Her mom's dead, so 17. Nothing is going to bring her back. 17, experiment with something living. 17, cause I am sweeter than 16.                              Becky: That sounds like dad is hooking up with his daughter.   Matthew: The movie leaves that open. I mean, not really, but there are some weird things happening there.   Becky: Please tell me that this, character's played by Paris Hilton.   Matthew: No, sadly.   Becky: Damn it.   Matthew: But Paris Hilton's character is very on brand…. I will does not spoil that.   Becky: Does she sing?   Matthew:  Not well.   Becky: That is right. She did have an album out.   Matthew: She did. We all know she did not get many after or any Grammys.   Becky: Did she really mean to? She is loaded,   Matthew: Right. That ends up being the chorus. So I will stop yelling 17 at you, but just know that throughout this she got 17. Other choice lyrics, I would say. Again, I feel like this captures my experience being a 17 year old. I have always longed for true affection is one lyric. I am like, okay. Like, that is not a bad lyric.   Becky: No.   Matthew: But the next line after it is. But you compare me to a corpse.   Becky: What?   Matthew: And then the third lyric is Stay with the dead. I'm joining the living cause I'm freer than 16.   Becky: Huh? Okay.   Matthew: Right. It is teenage angst.   Becky: Yeah.   Matthew: Specifically served up in teenage incomprehension.   Becky: Yep.   Matthew: Which I do appreciate. I don't know why 16 is the thing holding her back. Why she needs to be freer than 16. Also, I don't know why she got compared to a corpse.   Becky: Yeah, and I got to say, being 46 now. 16 looks awesome because nobody else is paying my goddamn bills.   Matthew: Doesn't it feel great?   Becky: And like my laundry was getting done? Like, yeah. Food was…   Matthew: Served.   Becky: Yeah.   Matthew: You did not have to cook. You did not have to clean.   Becky: No.   Matthew: Pay bills.   Becky: Nope.   Matthew: did not have to work.   Becky: I just had to be angst, and sit in my room and listen to music.   Matthew: Exactly.   Becky: Yeah.   Matthew: Music like 17 from repo the genetic opera.   Becky: Just like that.   Matthew: So it goes on because there are two more things that I really appreciate about this. Number one; there is a Joan Jett solo in this.   Becky: As in like the real Joan Jett?   Matthew: Yes. She makes an appearance in the movie.   Becky: Wow.   Matthew: Bless you Joan Jett. But you did not need that.   Becky: No, no, no, no, no, no.   Matthew: Joan Jett makes a very strange appearance. But the final lines, I just love because they're terrible. She goes something is changing. I can feel it building suspense. I am 17 now. Why can't you see it? 17 and you cannot stop me. 17 and you won't boss me. You cannot control me, father. Daddy's girl is a fucking monster and that is the end of the song. It is one of these that I am like, I know that they're bad lyrics, but deep down the very small angst part of me as a twenty nine year old is like, yeah, fuck em, fuck parents. Boom make money.   Becky: She is a monster. What? Please tell me. She turns into like some sort of weird. I don't know. I just picture like the Toxic Avenger. But a 16 oh 17 year old girl.   Matthew: Yeah. She is freer. She is sweeter and freer than 16.   Becky: Yeah.   Matthew: She did not turned into a monster. She ends up actually being. Actually, I think it is a very good metaphor for puberty because she is saying all these things in song form.   Becky: Yeah.   Matthew: First of all, you took the time to create a song to convey your angst. That is a very teenage trait.   Becky: Oh, God, yes. Yeah.   Matthew: She does all of this. Then at the end of the movie, it turns out she is a big softie who like as her spoiler alert, dad dies. She is like, I love you, dad. I am sorry I was kind of an asshole. And I forgive you for lying to me about a debilitating condition that led you to lock me up for 16 years.   Becky: Okay, I have never been in that situation before, but clearly, the last time we heard about this, the girl killed her mother, just saying.   Matthew: That is true.   Becky: Yeah. Serving in time.   Matthew: Now, she is locked up in a different way.   Becky: Yeah. You are no longer free. So probably should have just left the house. Yeah. Okay, that is bad. Now I kind of want to see this at the same time.   Matthew: I do recommend it, but not because it is good.   Becky: Where did you see this? How did you see this?   Matthew: If anyone is interested in watching Amazon Prime, it is available. Just watch it.   Becky: Okay. Well, now I know what I am doing this week.   Matthew: Imagine if you really, really overfunded my chemical romance music video,   Becky: Oh God.   Matthew: So that is your aesthetic. Repo the genetic opera is absolutely the movie for you.   Becky: Oh, that is…   Matthew: Paris Hilton. Her best performance, arguably.   Becky: That is just awful. I cannot even like I bought this backpack. Then I realized, oh, my God, I am 46-year-old version of a vsco girl, unintentionally. Now I am, oh I kind of want to return.   Matthew: Wait, a what girl?   Becky: Vsco girl. Apparently, all these Instagram girls, it is a weird of crunchy, granola hippy kind of thing with really expensive accessories. Vsco is like a filter. You can run the photos through. Of course, all these girls do that.  It is like the backpack, like scrunches. Why? Anyone, want to bring that.   Matthew: [Inaudible 00:26:11]   Becky: I cannot even begin crocs in like Birkenstocks. It’s like, can we go in now on both of those? Sorry. No, no, no. No. Can do skis. What was the other thing? Oh, like a puka shell.   Matthew: Oh yeah.   Becky: Necklace kind of thing. I did not buy the $80 backpack. I went for the Chinese knockoff, but it is like that. Eighty-dollar Swedish backpack, which, by the way, somebody told me they got for their daughter. And she's like, and I looked inside. It is made in Vietnam. I was like, way to go, Sweden. Then I thought, well, had I known about that 6 years ago, I would have bought one when I was there. But no, no, no. I was like, oh, I am now this…   Mathew: Vsco girl.   Becky: Forty six year old vsco girl. I will put my hair up in a scrunches. Then there was some other accessories that I was like, Oh, sweet Jesus. There is one clothing company. That only makes one size. And it's like a size Barbie doll. I don't know. It is like a small. Then their clothes are like. It is like some Italian clothing company, Quartz.   Matthew: Yikes.   Becky: Which is funny because all the Italian ladies in my family were not Barbie size. But whatever, probably not their target market, but yeah, so.   Matthew: Wow. I mean, I, for one, am just grateful that I'm neither a vsco girl nor am 17 anymore.   Becky: Oh, thank God. Yeah, I don't even remember what… Oh, I do remember it as doing and it was not good. Properly better, pass that.   Matthew: You could have put all of your angst into a song and you would have felt properly much better.   Becky: I would properly come up with shipoopi though, as opposed to that.   Matthew: I think we both are on par.   Becky: Yeah, we got it.   Matthew: We nailed what being 17 was like in two different decades.   Becky: Shipoopi. Oh, shipoopi. Yeah. All right. Well, I think that probably rounds out the old musicals. Thank God. So coming up next week, or next episode next week, episode, whatever. It all runs together right now.   Matthew: We will release it when we want.   Becky: When we feel like it. No pressure, please. So next time around, we are doing hip-hop.   Matthew: I am excited.   Becky: I had to kind of figure out what the definition really was, because for me, it was just straight up rap. But it's not cause I looked and Drake's in there and post Malone. I don't get that one at all. Beyoncé was in there, and like that's more like R&B stuff to me.   Matthew: Interesting.   Becky: R&B pop.   Matthew: I will be very curious to know what you choose.   Becky: Now, full disclosure, I do love me some Old-School Hip-Hop and by Old School, I mean like 80s. Cause I remember Fab 5 Freddy on MTV, which you have no idea who that is.   Matthew: I sure don’t.   Becky: Yeah, he was in Blondie video and she even mentioned him in it. Old school. I can't remember, I think he was a rapper and M.C. but I can't remember it. Oh my god. My brain is fried and all of my friends who know are yelling right now. But yeah, I remember Fab 5, Freddy and then Yo!, MTV Raps and then it became the two Ed lover and Dr. Dre, but not the Dr. Dre we all know and love today. Yeah, so.   Matthew: This will be good because we are going to be getting that [Inaudible 00:30:14] and then I will be serving my purpose as the millennial on the podcast by bringing us back to 2008.   Becky: Oh, minus.     Matthew: Wow. I just realized I am a 2008 freak.   Becky: Sticking with the year. I don’t even know when mine came out. I want to say it was late 80s, early 90s. So Yeah. All right. Well, that is something to look forward to, and I guess that is the end of this episode. And we will see you next time. When we ask What the Lyric?   [End 00:30:45]  

   Episode #1 Description   Welcome to “What the Lyric?!?” In this episode, we bring our favorite bad lyrics from Pop Music (c. 2016-2019). One song from an artist who desperately wants to fix her “Reputation” with some cringe-y spoken-word lyrics. And another from a Brit whose time would best be spent learning to “let go” of the booze.   Transcript of Episode #1   Becky: Welcome to What the Lyric?!? -- the podcast that confirms...yeah, that actually made it to radio.   Matt: Is it recording?   Becky: Oh now we’re recording. Oh fun!   Matt: Oh yay!   Becky: Hello everybody and welcome to What the Lyric?!? where we talk about how much we love awful, awful lyrics. A little bit about me: I’m Becky. I will listen to anything once, and over and over again if it’s really bad. And then there’s Matthew over here, my partner in crime…   Matt: You know, honestly, if you had to summarize my musical tastes, the best way to look at it would be to say that my go-to karaoke song is “Promiscuous” by Nelly Furtado ft. Timbaland.   Becky: So you know we have good taste. That goes without saying. How this whole podcast is going to work is...We have one song each that {...} we get to pick off the theme of the episode. Today’s theme is Pop Music from 2016 to 2019. We get to do a dramatic reading, and after the dramatic reading, we talk about why the lyrics are SO bad and why we had to call it out. All right, so starting first is...Matthew.   Matt: Okay.   Becky: Get ready.   Matt: Definitely get ready for this. So I chose a song...just to give you a little context for this: it comes from, I believe, August of 2017. So put yourself in that state of mind. It’s a year after the election; things are terrible...still.   Becky: I was probably high.   Matt: I mean, weren’t we all?   Becky: Yeah.   Matt: It is Seattle.   Becky: You’d have to be.   Matt: And so this person has decided to reshape their image and, you know, I’ll just let the lyrics speak for themselves:   “I don’t like your little games Don’t like your tilted stage The role you made me play Of the fool, no, I don’t like you I don’t like your perfect crime How you laugh when you lie You said the gun was mine Isn’t cool, no, I don’t like you (oh!)”   Matt: And that’s the first stanza.   Becky: Okay, so I’m guessing… Who’d be packing heat in 2017, you said? August?   Matt: Uh huh. Changing the image!   Becky: Could be… Oh! Changing the image? Only because of the changing image thing, that would be Taylor Swift?   Matt: Correct.   Becky: Oh the Swifties.   Matt: But do you...do you know the song?   Becky: Oh Jesus! Is it that...It’s the one where she then breaks it down and says, “Oh, Taylor Swift isn’t here right now. Because she’s dead!” Something along those lines? *Laughs*   Matt: This would be “Look What You Made Me Do” by Taylor Swift.   Becky: Oh yes. *Repeats the phrase “Look What You Made Me Do” twice.* Or however the rest goes.   Matt: Exactly. And really, my choice for all of the songs in this podcast are based on what I like to call “Cringecore.”   Becky: I love that. We are going to copyright that.   Matt: *Laughs* Really any songs that have lyrics that [make you go] “Oh!” You’ve heard of cringe comedy; that’s kind of how I view these lyrics.   Becky: I like it.   Matt: And specifically the -- what makes this so cringey is what you already mentioned, the, let’s find it…”I’m sorry the old Taylor can’t come to the phone right now” set to the background music of, “Ooh, look what you made me do.” “Why?” “Oh ‘cause she’s dead! Becky: The old Taylor is, like, what? 23? 24? I mean, she’s not old.   Matt: She’s got a guitar. I mean, her…   Becky: She’s country. Country Taylor.   Matt: She’s Country-Pop.   Becky: Yeah.   Matt: Don’t you remember when it was just a love song, baby?   Becky: Oh man. Oh God. Ohh...Getting a little gag reflex going.   Matt: And don’t forget the “I knew you were trouble.”   Becky: Oh is that the one with the turtle sex noise meme?  *Laughs*   Matt: *Laughs* That is exactly what that is. *Laughs*   Becky: My favorite ever!   Matt: So really Taylor...I had a lot of options, just based on Taylor, but I have to admit, the lyrics are just...a mess. Let’s keep it going. I mean, we’ve already heard the first stanza.   Becky: Oh yeah.   Matt: But then she continues to say she doesn’t like being the fool, but “[she] got smarter, [she] got harder in the nick of time.”   Becky: How does one get harder when they’re carrying their cat around everywhere? I see a lot of photos of her with her cat. Don’t get me wrong, [I’m a] crazy cat lady, but I’m not taking Kink with me...My cat’s name is Kinky Disco. I’m not taking Kink with me to the grocery store, to the gym...Okay, I don’t go to the gym, but like, I’m not taking her out on a night on the town.   Matt: Unlike Taylor Swift, which I will also say I find it interesting that for a woman whose last name is Swift, she didn’t choose “faster” for the lyric. Like, that would have made AS much sense… “But I got smarter, I got faster in the nick of time.” Okay! I’ll still take that!   Becky: She got badder? I’ve never heard her swear! I’ve never seen her not smile.   Matt: She doesn’t swear in this song either. The real question, and we can answer this question at the end of the analysis, but what, what, WHAT did we make her do? I’m just very curious.   Becky: Maybe make her carry a cat around all the time. *Laughs*   Matt: *Laughs* We did this to ourselves.   Becky: Maybe she has to date all these DJs. Maybe we forced that on her with our expectations of her music and turtle sex noises.   Matt: And her Starbucks lovers!   Becky: Oh God, that’s right.   Matt: “But honey, I rose up from the dead. I do it all the time.” Necromancer, interesting. “I’ve got a list of names and yours is in red, underlined. I check it once, then I check it twice. Oh.”   Becky: Wait, what does that mean? What are you doing? You checked it. Yup, still there.   Matt: Based on the lyrics alone, we have realized that she has gotten harder in the nick of time and also, presumably, become an elf of the Santa variety. She’s making lists; she’s checking them twice. Don’t know why she’s using a red pen.   Becky: Well it is festive. Red -- Christmas-y. Becky: See I can’t get past the “hard” part. She’s not like, all of a sudden, turned to Nicki Minaj-hard. Or like, back in the day, Lil Kim hard.   Matt: She’s not going to be Beyonce carrying around a baseball bat, breaking windows.   Becky: No, but she did bust out the band, the marching band.   Matt: Oh we can always get into that!   Becky: I saw that! I saw that!   Matt: But if that’s the case, then she still did not get harder in the nick of time because she’s still following Beyonce.   Becky: Yeah. And pink isn’t really a “hard” color for me. Like, it’s not a color I go, “Oh! I see Notorious B.I.G. is wearing pink. He’s hard.” That isn’t why I would have classified him as hard. I don’t think I’ve ever seen B.I.G. [in pink.] Maybe he did? I don’t know; I’d have to go back and look now.   Matt: *Laughs*   Becky: I feel like I’d have to look that up. *Laughs*   Matt: And then really, the rest is chorus, which in case you haven’t realized it, is just: “Ooh, look what you made me do. Look what you made me do. Look what you made me do. Look what you just made me...OOH, Look what…” Okay, I think we’ve got the idea.   Becky: I feel like someone got lazy. I feel like that happens a lot in lyrics. And that’s lazy.   Matt: Which part?   Becky: The just repeating the same line over and over and over again.   Matt: Yeah, it’s not a good look. And worse, is the next stanza:   “I don’t like your kingdom keys” Kingdom keys.   Becky: Keys? As in house keys? Car keys?   Matt: Yeah, apparently someone’s got a kingdom.   “They once belonged to me.”   Becky: Okay.   Matt: Uhhh, questions?   “You ask me for a place to sleep Locked me out and threw a feast”   And the best part of this is at the very end of the line is, “What?!” So even Taylor looked at these lyrics, “Locked me out and threw a feast...WHAT?!” And they just included it.   Becky: Yeah, they said fuck it. It’s Taylor Swift; it’s going to be huge. That’s exactly how it happened.   Matt: And ultimately, it was.   Becky: I know!   Matt: “The world moves on, another day, another drama, drama But not for me, not for me, all I think about is karma And then the world moves on, but one thing’s for sure (sure) Maybe I got mine, but you’ll all get yours.”   Becky: All of a sudden we’ve gone from one person to all?   Matt: Oh yeah. So whoever took her kingdom keys apparently stole her keys, stole her kingdom and was like, “No bitch, you don’t live here anymore.”   Becky: Could kingdom keys *laughs* be a metaphor for virginity, here?   Matt: But then which one? Which one of the Starbucks lovers is guilty of that.   Becky: *Laughs* I wish I had kids so that I could be like, “Kids, keep your kingdom keys as long as you can. Just lock them away.”   Matt: “Your chastity belts won’t rust. Don’t worry.”   Becky: “Just keep those kingdom keys to yourself and be sure to give them to the right person.”   Matt: Abstinence-only education.   Becky: “And if you are going to give them away, just keep them protected.”   Matt: Just keep them on a carabiner. Becky: *Laughs* Those Schneider keys that had the chain you could just pull and snap back.   Matt: Exactly!   Becky: Keep them safe. You’ve got to know where they are at all times.   Matt: Taylor did not follow that advice. She is thinking about karma apparently. She’s not going to do anything about how angry she is, which again really contradicts the meaning of the song.   Becky: The “Look what you made me do”!   Matt: Exactly. She’s like, “Oh karma will take care of it. I won’t do anything about it except sulk.”   Becky: I’m going to sit and just bitch about it.   Matt: Yeah. And honestly, the rest of the song. A) It goes back to, “I got smarter, I got harder in the nick of time.” Return to that and then another amazing chorus of “Look what you made me do.” And the final, original set of lyrics is:   “I don’t trust nobody and nobody trusts me. I’ll be the actress starring in your bad dreams. I don’t trust nobody and nobody trusts me. I’ll be the actress starring in your bad dreams.”   And it just repeats until it transitions flawlessly into “Ooh, look what you made me do.”   Becky: Taylor. Taylor, I get that you’re young, probably started partying, started drinking a little bit and that’s where this came from, maybe. I don’t know.   Matt: Girl’s nearly in her 30s.   Becky: Yeah, I don’t get it.   Matt: Britney had a weird stage; I’ll allow Taylor one, but this was a…   Becky: Britney had a good one because she shaved her head.   Matt: *Laughs* She put on a show!   Becky: *Laughs* She is a showman through and through. Like, she shaved her head, tried to attack somebody with an umbrella…   Matt: I don’t remember the umbrella… Becky: Oh yeah, that was after she shaved her head. I think she went for somebody’s car window because they were taking photos of her in the car, so she went for that. Yeah. That’s a good photo to look up. It’s priceless.   Matt: That’s the next segment.   Becky: Yeah, that’s the second podcast. Photos of people going crazy.   Matt: That’s the first one!   Becky: Okay, so I think, universally, this song is incredibly awful. I think we can both agree.   Matt: Do we have a rating for this?   Becky: I would say she’s mild. Like, on a scale of 1 to 5 -- like, 5-star spicy crappy lyrics -- she’s probably right in the middle there.   Matt: I am inclined to agree.   Becky: It’s like a 3-4.   Matt: Right. It depends on your own taste buds, your ethnicity. Certainly when it comes to this song.   Becky: Oh god, yeah.   Matt: Honestly, on a scale of 1 to 5 yikes, I’m inclined to give it a 3. What nudges it toward 4 is the spoken lyrics...   Becky: Yeah.   Matt: “The old Taylor can’t come to the phone right now.” “Why?” “‘Cause she’s dead.” And then I just hear the teenager in me slam the door and yell, “You’re not my real mom and you never will be!”   Becky: *Laughs* I will say, also, [those lyrics are] my favorite part of the song.   Matt: It’s only the original part of the song!   Becky: It really is! It really is. That’s like her acting out. And you’re like, “Oh. Ohh. Taylor got edge.”   Matt: To be honest, what would have kept it at a 3, if they would have just deleted the spoken word portion. This would have been a goth “Call Me Maybe.”   Becky: Yeah. Ooh, yes! I like that. I agree with you on that one. So we’re going a solid 3 to 4 yikes on the awful lyrics scale.   Matt: I am inclined to agree. It’s not the worst. It’s certainly not the best lyrics.   Becky: It’s definitely not. *Noise of a truck* Sorry for the trucks in the background, people! This is what happens when you record in an old building. Alright, so mine...Honestly, I don’t know when it came out. This song is the reason this podcast is existing because my coworker heard me bashing these lyrics and said, “Oh my god, please record this.” So Ellen, here you go!   Oh God, how do I do this? Okay:   “I met you in the dark, you lit me up You made me feel as though I was enough We danced the night away, we drank too much I held your hair back when You were throwing up   Then you smiled over your shoulder For a minute, I was stone-cold sober I pulled you closer to my chest And you asked me to stay over I said, I already told ya I think that you should get some rest”   Becky: And then it goes into the chorus. Go ahead, see if you can guess this one. Yeah.   Matt: I’m going to need some more lyrics.   Becky: I’m going to go into the chorus right now:   “I knew I loved you then But you'd never know 'Cause I played it cool when I was scared of letting go I know I needed you But I never showed But I wanna…”   Becky: I can’t even get to this part without laughing.   “But I wanna stay with you until we're grey and old Just say you won't let go Just say you won't let go”   Becky: ...Which is the name of the song.   Matt: Ohhhh my God.   Becky: That is James Arthur’s “Say You Won’t Let Go.” Now James Arthur, if I remember correctly won, like, X Factor, which is a British TV show like…   Matt: America’s Got Talent?   Becky: Yeah! I think it’s something similar.   Matt: Are there buttons?   Becky: There are people who are guest judges or whatnot. I think it might just be music, so it’d be like an American Idol situation. And [this song] is one of the more popular wedding songs, which I find offensive.   Matt: Oh no.   Becky: Yes! Yes, this is played at weddings. People pick this as their wedding song. So I’m going to go ahead and we’re just going to start again. So he starts with:   “I met you in the dark, you lit me up You made me feel as though I was enough”   Sweet enough sentiment. Right?   Matt: I will say it sounds like they’re both getting high at a party, which I’m just like, “Oh okay.”   Becky: They’re young. They can do that. I mean, I don’t remember the last time we’d dance the night away. Here’s where I start to have some issues with this being at all a good song and even a wedding song, where he says:   “I held your hair back when You were throwing up”   Now, there’s so many things here for me. You just met her and now you’re holding her hair back. While she’s puking.   Matt: Wow.   Becky: Do you want to be with a girl who can’t handle her booze is my number one question. *Laughs* Like, is that a thing?   Matt: I mean, I have to hand it to him. I can definitely see a couple of things wrong with the dating culture. Number one -- women who look at this song and think, “You know what? I’m just looking for a man who’s going to hold my hair back 30 minutes after I’ve met him.”   Becky: She’s gotten to that point. It’s like in Singles where she’s like, I was looking for all these things, and now I’m just looking for a man who says “God bless you” instead of “Gesundheit” when they sneeze. That’s where she’s at.   Matt: I mean, it’s a pretty low threshold.   Becky: Yeah.   Matt: But I also think it’s very much a critique on straight men who are like -- there’s no such thing as a red flag to me. She’s vomiting in a toilet? I bet I could get laid tonight!   Becky: She is so beyond her means; if anything, we’re going in for the kill. Okay, so now it says:   “You smiled over your shoulder”   Becky: All I can picture at this point is puke-face, which is puke stuck in the teeth, her make-up is now down around her cheeks, she’s got raccoon-face. She is that girl at the end of the night who is missing a shoe. And is holding the other one in somebody else’s shoe in her hand. Her purse is open; shit spilling out all over the place. That’s the girl I’m picturing, and you’re like…”Yeah.”   Matt: Say you won’t let go!   Becky: *Laughs* This is the girl for me. Forever. No. No, I can’t...And a wedding song! I’m going to keep saying this. This is a wedding song. People pick this for their freaking wedding.   Matt: See, what I love about that is that it explicitly gives the couple permission to drink too much, to dance the night away. And THEN, as she’s puking, he’s going to be like, “It’s like the first night we met!” *Laughs*   Becky: Open bar at this wedding! Very clearly. We’re not going to have food, just booze because we’re going to relive our first night. I can’t. And then he says:   “For a minute, I was stone-cold sober”   Becky: Now, when you sobered up for that second, did you go, “What the fuck am I doing?” Because that’s [when] I would have gone, “What am I doing? Why? This girl is puking and I’m holding her hair back and that’s the girl I think…”   But then he went, “Nope! We’re good. I don’t know what that was about. I’m pushing that to the back. Pushing it to the back. That is not a red flag in any way.” I don’t get it. And clearly, puke-face is a turn-on for this guy because then he pulls her close.   Matt: He’s got a thing.   Becky: *Gagging noises* It’s giving me the gag reflex thinking about it. Then he says:   “And you asked me to stay over I said, I already told ya”   Classy. He’s good.   Matt: Wow.   Becky: Yeah:   “I said, I already told ya I think that you should get some rest”   Becky: Now I’m not sure if he’s just being nice because she just lost the contents of her entire stomach in front of him and he doesn’t want to embarrass her any more or he’s like, “I’m going to go in for the kill even though I said ‘Let’s just get some rest.’”   Matt: He’s closing the deal. Honestly, if he cared, he’d be like, “We’re going to get you some water and medical attention.”   Becky: This is a “Me Too” movement issue.   Matt: Yeah, a #MeToo moment.   Becky: And then he goes on: “I knew I loved you then.” Got to be a fetish. Like, puke-face fetish. I don’t know. Not anything I go for. “But you’d never know.” Yeah because she’s black-out drunk. Who remembers during black-out drunk-ness? And then he says: 'Cause I played it cool when I was scared of letting go.” Yeah because she could die of alcohol poisoning. *Laughs* There could possibly be a death that your fingerprints are on the body now.   Matt: He’s scared of letting go and yet, at no point does he think, “You know, there are medical professionals who are paid to take care of this.” Becky: Yeah, maybe urgent care. That’s all I’m saying.   Matt: She deserves better at this point.   Becky: Yeah, and then he goes into, “I know I needed you.” More like she needed you rather than the other way around?   Matt: Yeah, she needed you in the same sense that she needed to be hydrated.   Becky: Yeah, maybe needed to be told, “Maybe not that last drink.”   Matt: Exactly. And this is going to be a bad decision.   Becky: Stop spinning while you’re dancing. Doing that little spinny-dance. That hippie dance thing. I don’t know. I don’t dance. I have no idea what the kids do these days. So then we go into the he wants to stay with her when she’s gray and old.   When you’re gray and old and you’re still puking into a toilet, holding her hair back. That’s old.   Matt: My brain went the opposite direction. Of course he’s excited for her to get gray and old because then all sorts of bodily functions go haywire. He definitely has a kink for this.   Becky: He’s waiting for the diaper stage.   Matt: Yep. 100%.   Becky: So then we get to the next bit:   “I'll wake you up with some breakfast in bed I'll bring you coffee with a kiss on your head”   This is an intervention. She’s daydrinking; she’s hungover. That’s what this has to be.   Matt: Too many damn mimosas.   Becky: “And I'll take the kids to school.” ...Because Mom’s had too much Mom-juice? What is happening here? Now we’ve established there’s a cycle. There’s a problem. “Wave them goodbye.” Because Mommy’s going to rehab and you’re not going to see her for a little while is what I’m getting. I could be wrong. “And I'll thank my lucky stars for that night.” The puke night? You’re thanking your stars because now you are having to take over care -- ALL the care of your kids -- because your wife can’t get out of bed because she’s been day-drinking and going on the Mom-juice.   Matt: Alright, two things. Well, actually, two kinks really come out of this. Number one, he definitely has a thing for girls who are messes. Like, full-on messes. Number two, the dude was playing long-game. If I can get with an alcoholic woman, enable it…   Becky: There will be diapers sooner [rather] than later!   Matt: Exactly. *Laughs* And I cannot wait to get custody of the kids who don’t exist yet. So...interesting, James Arthur.   Becky: Maybe that’s all he wanted was kids. And he just needed some drunk, crazy lady that would believe anything he said to her just to get those kids.   Matt: I hate to say it, but I know a fair number of straight women who, if a dude held their hair back, they’d be like, “Aw, he’s got a caring, tender soul.”   Becky: Yeah, I probably would have said that in my twenties. I’m also 45 now, so I’m like, “There’s something wrong with this guy.”   Matt: That’s because it’s amazing when you get out of your twenties...the clarity through which you can see the world!   Becky: Oh my God, yeah. Okay, so then we go back into the whole, “When you looked over your shoulder. For a minute, I forget that I'm older.” And here’s where I become an asshole for picking this song because the next line is, “Because you’ve been too busy hiding her alcoholism from the family.” The song’s about alcoholism! People are playing this for weddings! Again, top wedding song -- alcoholism is mentioned in the lyrics.   Matt: Wait, repeat that exact lyric.   Becky: “Because you’ve been too busy hiding her alcoholism from the family.”   Matt: Wait, who is? He is?   Becky: He is. His whole little stanza is:   “When you looked over your shoulder For a minute, I forgot that I'm older Too busy hiding her alcoholism from the family.”   Matt: This took a turn…   Becky: I know! I’ve never gotten past the first stanza where he’s holding her hair and she’s puking. No idea that they would all of a sudden mention alcoholism. THEY MENTION ALCOHOLISM. How is this a wedding song? You people have got to listen past the first stanza. And then it goes into, “I wanna dance with you right now.” I’m assuming now because shouldn’t she be in rehab? And then, “Oh, and you look as beautiful as ever. And I swear that everyday'll get better.” Everyday’ll. That’s everyday, apostrophe, L, L. Get better. “You make me feel this way somehow.” I don’t know. What would that way be? Afraid of drinking?   “I'm so in love with you And I hope you know Darling your love is more than worth its weight in gold.”   Now we’ve just completely gone past the alcoholism. That was just a little blip. Just a little mention.   Matt: Just going to drop that in as a reminder.   Becky: Yeah. Then this one gets me, “I wanna live with you/Even when we're ghosts.” Really?   Matt: That’s eternity.   Becky: That’s really...no.   Matt: I have yet to meet a single person in my living life who I would want to spend an actual eternity with.   Becky: I don’t want to spend that much time with my cat.   Matt: Ah! But see, that is the precise lyric that made that a wedding song.   Becky: Yeah. OR “I'm gonna love you till/My lungs give out.” Till my lungs give out?   Matt: But then he just literally contradicts what he’s just saying. He’s like, “I’m going to…” What?   Becky: Be with you even when we’re ghosts. But now it’s just till my lungs give out. He backed it up a bit. He was like, “Ooh…”   Matt: There was a rug that he pulled out from underneath her, which is that he doesn’t believe in ghosts.   Becky: OR he’s thinking he’s got a better shot in the afterlife of hooking up with, like, Anna Nicole Smith or something.   Matt: I’m guessing. But no one says what Anna Nicole Smith looks like after she died. What form of Anna Nicole? Becky: He’s thinking ahead. FAR ahead since he cut it back down to just till my lungs give out. “I promise till death we part like in our vows”?   Matt: Yikes. That’s just poor sentence construction.   Becky: Well, again, this song is about alcoholism and it’s a top 10 wedding song.   Matt: That’s a winner.   Becky: I think it’s a top 10 wedding song mainly because he’s British and the Brits do love their booze. *Laughs* So I’m sure it hits home with a lot of Brits.   Matt: I’m going to give you the win on this one. It was never a competition. I’m giving you the win. That is a clusterfuck of a song.   Becky: That TOP hit...I don’t even know what it topped at, but it’s up there. Not only that...WEDDING SONG.   Matt: First of all, he didn’t just have a thing for ladies who were messes, he then also proceeds to move forward with it to be like, “You know what I really love about you? How you hide your debilitating substance use from your family. That’s a major turn-on for me.”   Becky: See? He gave us a little hint in the beginning, and we’re all like, “This guy’s just an idiot. They’re just young.” And then it’s, “Oh shit. They’re alcoholics.”   Matt: She’s got a problem! And then it should have just been, “I’ll love you until we’re ghosts, which will be soon because your liver won’t last much longer.”   Becky: Because cirrhosis is bad. I say this is right up there. I say this is a 4.5 on the yikes scale for me.   Matt: I was precisely thinking somewhere between 4 to 4.5, but I will give it credit. There’s no way it’s going to be a 5, only because there was an emotional journey there.   Becky: There was. He took you on a little bit of a ride, albeit a crazy rollercoaster of alcoholism clusterfucks.   Matt: I don’t think I would have ever..No, no no. AMENDMENT: I would have never guessed there was an actual major pop song that had the word alcoholism in it.   Becky: Now I feel like I’ve got to look it up, but he was up there. I can’t remember where it was, but it played a lot, and I was like, did anyone actually listen to these lyrics before it went anywhere outside of the recording studio?   Matt: I think they saw it and thought to themselves, “Oh my God -- the UK -- this is going to be relatable.”   Becky: *Laughs* These people drink like fish and they are going to love this song. Alright, let’s see if I can find it...where did this damn song hit. I can’t believe this song about alcoholism made the charts. Let’s see, Brit Awards...Video of the Year and Single of the Year in 2017. Also, Oh thank God, it wasn’t for Teen Choice Awards. Thank goodness!  He also won American New Artist of the Year that year!   Matt: No. This is #MeToo moment. First of all it was a #MeToo moment and then, following that, was alcoholism and neglect?   Becky: Peaked at number 11 on the Billboard Hot 100. In May 2018, it was reported that The Script, also another classic band, had launched legal proceedings against him due to alleged copyright infringement in regards to this song.   Matt & Becky: OHH!   Becky: It just got ugly.   Matt: Although now I’m intrigued at the title because...does the title, “Say You Won’t Let Go” refer to…   Becky: The booze?   Matt: ...a Jameson bottle? Or James Arthur?   Becky: I’d go with the bottle of booze. *Laughs*   Matt: I think she’s certainly loving that!   Becky: THAT is good when you’re a ghost.   Matt: You know what pairs best with cirrhosis? Jameson. Informal plug.   Becky: Jameson if you would like to sponsor us…   Matt: Please let us know!   Becky: Please!   Matt: Please get us out of this studio.   Becky: This studio is hot and there’s guns a-blazin’ probably somewhere in Seattle right now. Okay everybody, thanks so much for listening. Please join us next time when we take a peak at the riveting lyrics of songs from the ‘90s. That’s right. I’m Becky.   Matt: I’m Matt.   Becky: And this was…   Becky & Matt: WHAT THE LYRIC?!?

Steve Larsen: All right. Hey, welcome everyone. Today I am super excited; I have a very special guest who's very near and dear to me actually. I have been looking forward to this actually for several weeks; ever since we set it up. Everyone, this is Becky. Becky, say hi. Becky: Hi, everyone. Steve Larsen: Really though, Becky has been very influential to me, and I don't know that I've told you this which makes me feel even worse, but I actually feel like you were very influential on me being in the position that I'm in right now. Becky: Oh, wow. Thank you. Steve Larsen: Yeah, absolutely. If it's all right, I'd like to tell that story because it was a moment of high drama for me, you know what I mean? We always talking to people when they're in a life transition period, and that's kind of what I was in when you and I met. I was in college, obviously. I was about to graduate, literally the week before we met at Russel's last event, the Funnel Hacker event. I was about to go over and work for this guy in Florida. I knew it would be good, but I wasn't totally stoked. I remember at the event Russel had just pitched the whole certification event and I had a little prayer in my heart. I was like, "God, I feel like I should do this," and then ... I can't even remember what I stopped by and asked you. Do you remember that? Becky: I think you just asked me about the certification and kind of what I had talked about. A few of the certification partners had talked a little bit about what I meant to me and I had mentioned that it really meant a lot to me to be able to be home with my kids and work with people who I believed in and who I [crosstalk 00:02:20] make a different. Steve Larsen: Yeah, absolutely. I must've had a freaked out look on my face or something like that because I remember the first thing you said to me is, "Do you just need to go talk?" I was like, "Sure, I guess I do." I didn't realize that I ... I don't know. Anyways, so we stepped out of the whole meeting and you started just answering questions for me and it was awesome and that led me to apply not just for certification, but to work at ClickFunnels, and that's literally why I'm sitting in Russel's office right now I think. It really ... Everyone listening, Becky is amazing. Becky: Thank you. I appreciate that. Steve Larsen: Yeah, I've just been very excited for this. It's fun to interview everyone, but I was like, "Oh, I've got to interview Becky. Becky's been awesome." Throughout the rest of the event you were texting me and you were like, "Hey, just following up with you. Have you been doing all your stuff?" I was like, "Man! Normal people don't do this, that's awesome." Anyways, you've been working on a lot of funnels, obviously. You've been doing this as a certified partner especially for how long? A year and a half? Becky: Yes. I signed up for the certification at the first Funnel Hacking Live in May of 2015, and I've been working with ClickFunnels since it was in beta, so 2 and a half years. Steve Larsen: Oh, awesome. How'd you get into it overall? How'd you get into funnels? Becky: I really just kind of fell into it. Some of my clients had been using different things and we were piecing it together. The whole story about piecing all these different things together. I'd been actually doing funnels without the name "funnels" for years and years just trying to get people in and build that relationship. Then a client of mine went to one of Russel's events or seminars and he said, "Hey, I really wanna try this. Let's check it out." From there we just kind of jumped on. Even after I stopped working with him, when he went to travel, I was hooked; completely jumped on board. Steve Larsen: That's awesome. Obviously ClickFunnels' beta version versus what it is now is very different. Becky: Yes, very very different. It was much clunkier, you didn't have a lot of the drag and drop capabilities, you didn't have a lot of the editing capabilities. It was still better than anything out there, but a far cry from what it is now with the amazing capabilities that it has to drag and drop and edit and customize. I'm really excited with the changes that are coming this summer, too. That's going to be even more cool. Steve Larsen: Oh, yeah. It's going to be cool. For sure. Was it because you'd already been kind of doing it that led you to be a certified partner and go through that whole gate also? Becky: Absolutely. Because I already had that experience, I already had the knowledge, I was already using ClickFunnels about 60% with my clients at the time, if not more. Just a few of the benefits of becoming certified were enough to tell me that it was really a great thing to do, and in the process i developed this whole new family of partners and colleagues and friends who've supported and helped and it's just been really amazing to have that group of people to support me in growing my business and helping people. Steve Larsen: I remember that's one of the things you had mentioned to me when I was asking questions about it, is just how big the network is when you jump into that boat. I've actually really felt that. It's amazing. I know a lot of people and they're all amazing. I went through 9 business partners in the last year and a half and they were awesome, but I moved on for certain reasons. Everyone I've been meeting is just ... They're all A-players. Becky: Absolutely. Absolutely. They say that you draw the people toward you that you need, and I really believe that, particular with this group of people because obviously there's people in this realm who are not the caliber that you and I have met, but somehow we've drawn to us the type of people who we need and who are amazing to work with and supportive and ethical and just not any of the negativities that maybe you've experienced before or I have or that you've seen out there. It's just been a great group of people who are willing to make referrals and help out and answer questions. Steve Larsen: Yeah, absolutely. It's not to say that everyone that everyone that I ever worked with in the past has not been good, because especially a few of them, they knock the socks off of what they do, but it's the ... I don't know what it is. It's fantastic, though. It's a cool community that I've never experienced. Becky: It really is. Steve Larsen: It's kind of funny because whenever you see ads or we all see sales video [headers 00:07:38] or we all see whatever it is. We all like to kind of puff our chest out and say, "This is what I've done and it's amazing and I'm making this much money," but beneath it all there's usually this lifetime of struggle and this lifetime worth of just going against odds that no one else would; a lot of courage and stuff like that. No doubt I'm sure you're the same with that. I was wondering, what are some of the issues you've had with some of the funnels that are now successful that may not have been in the past? Becky: It's funny that you ask that because I've been working recently on one that I feel like it's just a poster child. It's so cool when everything meshes and it just clicks. I didn't really start to feel success with this until I kind of was willing to have my own voice to say who I was and use my personality as opposed to try to be a cookie cutter with other people. That's particular what has made this particular funnel with Alex [Sharfon 00:08:52], and he said that I could definitely use him as an example. Steve Larsen: Do a little name drop. That's awesome. Becky: Yes. It's really cool because he has had so many successes in the past and these particular funnels were successful, but they weren't having the type of reach and success that he had hoped for and that he really wanted. You and I met him in San Diego and he just speaks so well to entrepreneurs especially. When he reached out to me and I went up to his office to work with their [inaudible 00:09:27] for an entire day, the first thing that I noticed was that what was in his funnels didn't resonate with him. It didn't have the same language and personality that he has in all of the things that he does through his podcast and his Facebook lives and even just his posts and everything that I've seen from him as well as the presentation you gave. Steve Larsen: That's interesting. You're saying match the personality with the funnel? Becky: Exactly. What we did was we went in and we basically stripped out a lot of the industry speak types of things where you might have these specific phrases or you might have these things that other people have used with great success with different markets, but it didn't fit him and his market. We really made the wording match what his message was and the people that he wanted to reach and the fact that he wanted to build a long-term client relationship with the people that he was reaching out to. He wasn't looking for a sale, he was looking for that relationship. Steve Larsen: How did you create that? You just basically got the whole funnel, or just changed verbiage? How do you match someone's personality and funnel? I've never thought about that. That makes sense, though. Becky: Yeah, it really does make a big difference. For him, the very first things we did were take out some of the language and the headlines. We focused on the headlines first because obviously that grabs your attention, and we changed the wording where it was going to reach people. We're always saying to touch people's pain points, and so that's really what tried to do, but in a way that matched his message. Then we went through and we looked at: Are we really showing people how much value they're going to get from listening to one of Alex's webinars or one of his products, and we focused on all the ways that this was going to really change their lives. I don't use that phrase loosely when I come to his particular work, but you and I know it really did. Steve Larsen: Oh, yeah. Becky: I do this with all of my clients. How is it going to change their lives? I have an iron man client, and what we focused on was: How is this training going to make these people's lives better? Focus on that messaging in a way that sounded just like she speaks. We looked at the headlines, we looked at what we were offering, and we took out a lot of the things that are purely sales-driven. Like I said, a lot of my clients are trying to build a relationship, so anything that felt too pushy ... Maybe some of the phrases and graphics that were really about sales ... For these type of people we took out so that they could start to build that relationship and let their audience know that they're trying to build a relationship and not just sell them a product. Steve Larsen: That's counter-intuitive to what most people do when they're selling. Does that mean you switch a lot of the things to a lot of soft closes instead of a hard- ... Becky: Yup. Steve Larsen: Okay, interesting. Becky: Absolutely. We did a lot of soft sell. Any time that you're not just about a product, but you're about a relationship, that's so important to look at. Are you pushing too hard to build that relationship and turning people off? This is something that the feedback that I actually got was they had had a lot of unsubscribes in the past 6 weeks, 2 months. Once they had started this particular method of marketing because it didn't resonate with what they were trying to do. Steve Larsen: Did you conduct a lot of interviews and things like that to understand his market better, or was he able to pick out, "Hey, that's not how I would say that." How did you identify what that is since it's matching him? Becky: Before I went in there, I had looked at a lot of his unscripted work: The things he was doing on Facebook, what he was doing on Facebook live, I watched 2 of his presentations, the live one at San Diego and then the video one, and I do that type of background with my clients in trying to get inside their head exactly the same way they're trying to get inside their audiences to really understand them better and really understand what they're trying to do for their audience and how they can do it better. Steve Larsen: Interesting. You watch your clients' social profiles. I never thought about that. That's clever, though. Becky: [crosstalk 00:14:15]. When their business is reaching out to people on social, then yes I do. It sounds very stalker-ish, and I don't mean it that way at all. Steve Larsen: We'll call it research. Becky: Yeah, it really is. For instance, my iron man client, she had been on several interviews, she had done things outside of social media, so watching her there was very helpful. If I have the opportunity, then I will talk to some of her clients or my client's clients as well to get that better feedback for how we can better serve them. In a nutshell, it really all boils down to being authentic and finding out what the real message is. Sometimes that takes a little bit of background, sometimes it takes a little bit of research, or really getting to know the person who is trying to reach out to their audience, but it's so worth it because in the end you are promoting a community and not just a bunch of sales. Like I said before, when I was at Funnel Hacking Live, that's part of the way that you help people change the world is helping them reach their audience. Steve Larsen: Interesting. You're basically going through and you're scraping out all the techno babble and stuff that doesn't make you human; the things that you and I would not normally say in a conversation with each other, and that's awesome. Becky: Exactly. The things that just sound too [canned 00:15:46] that maybe have been said too often or don't fit. You can't fit your particular personality inside someone else's funnel, just like you can't fit inside someone else's shoes or clothing. You just have to make it your own. Steve Larsen: I remember on SalesFunnelBroker.com, the site I built and put up, it was kind of funny because the moment I watched it someone was making fun of it. One my buddies, he was like, "You have yourself in a shirt and tie on the front." I said, "Yeah." He said, "No one looks at you like a shirt and a tie guy." I was like, "You know what? That's good, because I don't either." He's like, "Yeah, if you scroll down you've got a big picture of you being all goofy pointing at your shirt in a black and white. That's more what everyone looks at you as." I said, "Yeah, I know, I just thought I should toss that in there." It makes sense, though. It's not my personality, I probably shouldn't have that on my front page. Becky: Exactly. Especially people who know you, they understand what you're really like and we just can't fit inside someone else's funnel or someone else's marketing because we need to reach out to our audiences in our own voice and be authentic and sometimes share a little bit of our vulnerability and our background so that they know that we're real and we've been through the same types of growth problems that they have. Steve Larsen: Yeah, I am a brass tax really intense guy, everyone. You've just got to watch out for me. I will rip your head off. Becky: I totally get that about you. I totally get it. Steve Larsen: Yeah, most people do. They tremble in fear. Becky: Absolutely. Steve Larsen: Do you mind kind of walking us through the funnel that you've built or fixed with Alex? Is that okay? Just from your perspective I thought it'd be kind of cool to hear, "Hey, on the first page he was getting this percent kind of conversion, but after the tweaks ..." Are you allowed to share that kind of stuff? Becky: Yes, I actually asked him and he gave me the permission to do so. [crosstalk 00:17:48] Steve Larsen: Awesome. Becky: His funnel starts with a free book download, and it's a really impressive book. The people who were going to it were actually warm traffic, so his numbers should have been really high, but they were in the teens and nobody could quite figure out why he was getting 15, 16, 17%. He actually had several funnels for different reasons, but all that were identical and were all for the free book download, but none of them were converting it higher than 30%. Most of his traffic was warm and these people really liked him, so the first thing we did was look at: How are they drawing people in? It was just very simple; there was the title and there was a very very long description. We shortened that up and we made it a little bit more true to his personality. The other thing that we did was they were asking for about I think 6 pieces of information and we stripped that down to 3. Those particular numbers more than doubled after we made those changes. Steve Larsen: You cleaned up the copy and then basically ... I call it funnel friction. He had too much funnel friction; he had to release it a little bit before ... Becky: Right, we just stripped it down a little bit and made it simpler so that people didn't have to read quite so much, but the impressive thing was going from the second page where they would get the "Thank you for downloading" onto looking at another video. This part that we completely gutted. We took out all the headlines, we took out the slide deck video, we took out the offer- ... Steve Larsen: On the thank you page? Becky: On the thank you page. There was an offer for an upsell and people were even clicking to find out more about it. Those numbers were I believe right around 10%, so really really bad, especially for him for [inaudible 00:20:03]. We changed it over to be just a video thanking them, telling them what the book was going to give for them, and offering the opportunity to move on with the training with an additional video and more training. Steve Larsen: Kind of just like a soft offer but not even an offer; you're just asking them to progress clicking. Becky: Exactly. The thing that I said to them before they shot the video was, "You are not selling to people. You are offering them the opportunity to continue on this journey with what they've started to learn, and you're going to help them even more." Steve Larsen: Interesting. Becky: Once he did that, the clip throughs to the third page went up 6 times. Steve Larsen: What?! 60%?! Holy smokes! Becky: Yes, it was pretty phenomenal. It was pretty phenomenal because that was the most heavily salesy page of [crosstalk 00:21:04] marketing. Steve Larsen: Wow. Becky: It was really cool to see that change, that by really dialing into his personality, stripping out everything else, and just giving them the opportunity to continue on, because we weren't going from sales page to sales page the first time and then taking out the sales the second time. The funnel was the same, it was just the messaging that was different. We had the same offer that they could go on to watch this video and get more training, took out all the salesiness. That was very cool to see that stripping that down, making it really about helping made that dramatic of a change. Steve Larsen: That's incredible. Becky: Thank you. Yeah, that was really cool to see. Then on the next step of his funnel which was actually his funnel stack because they were presented this offer a little bit later; it wasn't immediate. What we did was we took the sales page and we stripped out a lot of the pushiness on that one as well and we told them all the ways that this was going to benefit them and all of the things that they could do in order to continue to improve their life, which is his theme as an entrepreneur. By really telling the audience about what they were going to get and the changes they were going to make before we promoted what the course was going to do, those sales doubled. Steve Larsen: Was that an e-course, then? A membership area it promotes? Becky: Yes. It was an e-course; a membership area, it had I think 2 payments. It's within a long-term continuity type of thing, but the offer was the same, the price was the same. The difference was that we added a little bit of graphics so that it wasn't real plain and boring ... The graphics of Alex and of the course ... We talked about the changes that it was going to make and then down next to the order form is where we labeled out the ABC of what it was going to offer. When we went in, I believe it was about 8 days after we made those changes, it was so exciting to see that those sales numbers had doubled. Steve Larsen: That's fantastic. I'm a big fan of Perry Belcher, and one of the things that he talks about is how when you start to do a sales letter, or anything really, everyone comes into these scenarios having different beliefs: "Hey, I can do this," or "Hey, I can't do this," or "I believe I won't be able to because of my past and it's very very hard to get someone to change their beliefs. What a sales person's job is is truly more about suspending people's beliefs long enough for them to purchase, which is the greatest chance of them changing their beliefs in the long run anyways. I think it's interesting that you said in the sales page you didn't put the ABC's of the offer out until way at the bottom and the whole way from the top down to that point, you're really just pre-framing them to suspend their belief with time. Time is the biggest way ever to suspend beliefs. If they're out going from the top of the page down to the bottom, there's more time involved there; more stuff to help them suspend beliefs so that at the end, "Okay, ABC, here's 2 payment plans," and you don't pitch until the end. That's amazing. Becky: Definitely. The top was really about the changes that it would make and it was bullet points. There were very few paragraphs; it was all bullet point to attract the attention and again, to figure out how to help these people realize that they're continuing on a journey and that this is going to help them improve their business, their life, whatever the case may be that you are working on. It's about that transformation. Steve Larsen: That's incredible. That doubled the sales right there. Becky: Mm-hmm (affirmative). Steve Larsen: Holy cow. People get stoked in the stock market when they have like a 10% gain, and you're like, "Nope, let's double it." Becky: It was very very cool to see. The really cool thing about this particular funnel was that the results were so immediate and changes were very obvious. It was very simply, "We are making this for your voice. What would you normally say?", and these are the results. I've only been working with him for I think about 6 weeks. Maybe a little bit more; maybe 2 months, and we've seen these types of changes. If you can get these types of changes quickly when you're really dialing in and he knows his audience, and that's what's really fun about working with clients who are established, is that they've done the background on their audience and they know their message, so you can really help them transform what they're saying just by being more authentic. When you're starting from scratch, it's so nice to know that these results are possible. Steve Larsen: My wife always calls that ... Instead of authentic, she just calls it "being real". We'll be talking to someone and she'll be like, "That guy was the most real guy I've ever heard." I used to tease her and be like, "He was real before that." I get what you're saying, though. Becky: Being authentic is very much a marketing term, but just be true to who you are and be real in your messaging and don't try to hide behind a lot of things. Steve Larsen: Are you allowed to tell a little bit about the membership area also and what he's done in there? Becky: His membership area is phenomenal. He took pieces from a 2 day workshop that he did a few months ago and separated it out and added tools that you can download. Some of it's very focused on yourself and growing into the entrepreneur, the person that you're really meant to be. Some of it is focused on growing your business and some of it is focused on growing your business even more with a team. The pieces that he has and the tools that he's put together just really show how you can take a massive amount of information and break it down via a continuity or a membership area or things like that and offer it to people in bite sized pieces in a way that they don't get overwhelmed so that they can get the most out of what you're doing. Steve Larsen: What I'm curious about is: How did you determine, besides in the the beginning of the funnel and watching the conversions as you kind of worked down, but how did you even figure out that it was overwhelm that people were feeling? Becky: Because I was overwhelmed when I looked at it. I really have to be honest. When I looked at it, I just felt super uncomfortable because it was that pushy. I really believe that we are connected with people for a reason, that God puts people in our path for a reason, and I felt like when I had met him originally that I had so much to learn. Then when I was reading his stuff, I was just very put off. That's part of the reason why the research does so well is kind of getting to know their personality; you can tell if it's congruent with what you're trying to do when you look at someone's funnel. Steve Larsen: Wow. Okay. I'm just thinking. I've been taking notes. I've got a full page of notes of things you've said. I've actually drawn out the whole funnel all the way from the back, all the lessons, I number them out. That's cool. Stu Mclaren, I'm sure you've heard the name. Becky: Yup. Steve Larsen: Stu's the man, and he loves membership sites; that's kind of his mojo there. I heard him say once that overwhelm is actually the number one reason someone cancels from a membership site. They get in and there's too much stuff. People will go in and they're like, "I don't even know where to start." That's interesting that that's what you said it was. Becky: Absolutely. It was the same thing when I looked at his funnels. They had already broken things down on the membership size and had it in bite size pieces, so now what we're working on is just making it more user friendly in that membership area because still we want to make the user experience flow. Again, that's why it's so important to get to know the person that you're working with and do a little bit of research on who's following them and the types of people that they're going to resonate with. If he were, let's say one of these people who was hard-hitting and really promoting hard to corporate men and that type of thing, I honestly would step back and say, "I am not the best person to do your marketing because I have no idea what your message is from a personal standpoint. That's like what I said before: I really try to work with people that I connect with and who I can help make a difference. If I am nowhere in the realm of your target market, then in order for me to really understand what you're trying to say, I'm going to have to do way more research with the people that you're trying to talk to. If you're in that space where you're working with someone who they are not targeting, then that's when the research is really important. Steve Larsen: You made all these changes to the funnel itself, I mean 2x, 6x, 2x ... I'm just looking down all the numbers: 16 to 32, 10 to- ... It's amazing looking at all of it. In that process, you said that he had been sending warm traffic. Did you guys change the traffic source at all? Becky: No change in the traffic source. In the process, we did change the messaging in the e-mails as well. Steve Larsen: Oh, really? Okay. Becky: We took out some of that hard-hitting sales. It was more his conversational personality, it was an invitation and not pushiness, but he didn't change his ads, he didn't change what he was doing on Facebook, and he didn't send out more e-mails. In fact, ,i think he sent out fewer. Everything that he had been doing on social media were really his voice already. It was really just e-mail and the funnel that we had to change. Steve Larsen: Interesting. Okay, so fewer e-mails actually went out. Becky: That's a thing that I do as soon as I start working with a client, is I go in and I subscribe to what they're already doing if they have something in place. I'll subscribe to their e-mail and I'll start looking at it trying to get a feel for their messaging, what they're saying, how they're saying it. That gave me that same off-putting feeling in the e-mails that I got when I looked at that sales page. Steve Larsen: One of the things that Russel I think does ... I've never really realized: Some of it's just for the ease of creation and making things, but it helps him ... What I've seen him do is he will just record himself teaching something and then go get it transcribed so it preserves everything in his voice and it's the way he would say it. Most people, the way we write and the way we speak are 2 different languages, but that's actually an error in sales copy usually. Becky: Right, because you're not going to reach your audience if you are putting on a template, putting on this box of what you're trying to say. If they're already following you, then they're following you for a reason. By following that same type of format that you are engaging them with, then you're just going to engage them more. Steve Larsen: That's fantastic. I know we've been going for a little bit here. I actually have 1 other question, and I'm sure people are going to just kill me if I don't ask this. How on earth did you get a client like Alex [Sharfon 00:34:34]? Becky: It's really cool how that happened, and it goes right back to my strong belief that you provide the value and the rest comes. He had a funnel that he had put out on social media, and I think a friend tagged me in it. I can't even remember how I found it, but I ended up coming across it and suddenly there were all these messages that said, "It's broken, it's broken, it's broken, it's broken." I messaged him and all the people I could tell kind of were working with him and I said, "Send me your information, I will fix it right now," and they did and I did. That's all it was, was just trying to help out. It really pains me to see something like that when there's something not working and they're pushing it out to all these people because literally dozens of people were commenting on it that it wasn't working. Who even knows how many more people didn't comment on it at all. That was all there was. I said, "Here you go, it's fixed," and I don't know, a month or 2 later, probably 6 weeks maybe, his team reached out to me and said, "Can we talk? We'd love for you to help us." Steve Larsen: That's so cool. Becky: Yeah, it was really neat. They just said, "We appreciate that you helped us before and we wanna see about working with you." When you are genuinely interested in helping people, good things come to you. It may not be that obvious and that immediate; that was just a really cool experience of it was a pretty tight turnaround and the same person. People are going to talk about you helping them and about the things that you've done to improve what they're doing, and then good things will come. Steve Larsen: That's incredible. Yeah, I completely agree, and I've seen that definitely on my own. There was a guy I was doing work for once. I actually ... This is kind of how I broke into it, because I needed someone to be able to see what I could do, right? I actually went to him and I told him, "I'm going to build a funnel for you. I know you don't know what that is, so don't pay me for the first 6 months. All I need you to do is pay for the tools, I'll go put it together." I ended up helping him pull an extra $60,000 from just an e-mail campaign that I put out there with his own list through a sales phone. [inaudible 00:37:10] funnel I built. After that, though, then they offered to pay me, and it was a really easy way to go get a relationship going. Becky: Whether or not he had helped you or he had turned around and decided to create it or not, it was good experience for you and you were helping somebody to help other people and so it comes around. All these things kind of click together for good when we're trying to do something good. Steve Larsen: Absolutely. Yeah, and it's such a counterintuitive thing too, because everyone says, "Oh, put your resume out there and go ..." I hate resumes. I don't have one. You don't really need one. Anyways, that's so cool. Thanks so much for sharing that stuff. Becky: You're welcome. It's a privilege to talk to you and I've really enjoyed seeing all the great things that you're doing, so I'm thrilled to be able to chat with you about it and share some f that experience. Steve Larsen: Thank you so much. For all the people who are listening or will listen to this, how can they reach you or follow you? Becky: You can find me on Facebook, and then if you want to reach out in a way that's more direct, I have a website. It's go.funnelpros.net, and you can see a little bit about me and my history and the story of how I came to be here and a few of the people that we've helped. Steve Larsen: That's awesome. Go.funnelpros.net. Becky: Yes. Steve Larsen: Awesome. Thanks so much, and I am looking forward ... I'm going to go check out that site right now, actually. Becky: Thanks so much. I appreciate talking with you. It was a pleasure. Steve Larsen: All right, we'll talk to you later. 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