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In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Sam Mandel, co-founder and CEO of Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles (KCLA). Find full show notes and links here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-301-sam-mandel/?ref=278 Sam shares his journey co-founding KCLA with his father in 2014, pioneering ketamine infusion therapy when few were exploring its potential for mental health. From humble beginnings in a storage closet to becoming a leading mental health center with over 30,000 infusions administered, Sam discusses the challenges and triumphs of building a patient-centric practice. He explains the science behind ketamine's effectiveness compared to alternatives like Spravato, highlights the importance of individualized treatment, and offers a passionate critique of the current mental healthcare system while envisioning what meaningful reform could look like. Co-founder & CEO of Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles (KCLA), Sam Mandel has channeled his lifelong passion for healthcare advocacy into transforming mental health care. From volunteering at a teen-to-teen suicide prevention hotline at twelve to pioneering one of the foremost Ketamine Infusion Therapy clinics in 2014 alongside his father, Dr. Steven L. Mandel, Sam has been featured in Entrepreneur's Top 10 Inspiring Healthcare Entrepreneurs (2023) and earned two 2024 Stevie Awards. Under his leadership, KCLA has provided over 30,000 infusions to more than 6,000 patients with an 83% success rate, establishing gold-standard treatment protocols while expanding services to include General Psychiatry and TMS therapy. Highlights: The founding story of KCLA and early skepticism from the medical community Why IV ketamine outperforms nasal Spravato in efficacy and cost-efficiency Creating individualized ketamine protocols for optimal patient outcomes How insurance companies create barriers to effective mental healthcare KCLA's 83% success rate compared to 50-70% in controlled research settings Expanding from ketamine to TMS and general psychiatry Preparing for future psychedelic medicines like MDMA and psilocybin The critical flaws in America's mental healthcare system Episode Links: Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles (KCLA) The difference between Ketamine and Spravato (esketamine) Third Wave's Ultimate Guide to Ketamine Episode Sponsor: Psychedelic Coacing Isntitute's Intensive for Psychedelic Professionals in Costa Rica - a transformative retreat for personal and professional growth.
Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell break down key insights from Lesley's conversation with Sam Mandel, CEO and co-founder of Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles, one of the first ketamine clinics in the country. They explore how ketamine therapy can help reframe trauma, unlock new mental pathways, and provide clarity for lasting change. In this recap episode, they discuss the power of perspective shifts, breaking free from limiting beliefs, and why taking action—despite fear or perfectionism—is the key to growth. If you've ever felt stuck in your past, this conversation will give you a fresh way to move forward.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. 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Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:How ketamine therapy helps reframe past experiences and shift perspectives on trauma.The role of ketamine in rewiring the brain and breaking old thought patterns.Why a structured clinical environment ensures the best results with ketamine therapy.The importance of normalizing alternative mental health treatments and breaking the stigma.How perfectionism holds you back and why taking “messy action” leads to real growth.Episode References/Links:Cambodia October 2025 Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.com Spring Pilates Training - https://opc.me/eventsPilates Studio Growth Accelerator - https://prfit.biz/acceleratorAccessories Flashcards Waitlist - https://opc.me/flashcardwaitlistKetamine Clinics LA Website: https://Ketamineclinics.com Sam Mandel's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thesammandel If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.DEALS! 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And he said the ketamine really helps you dig in, because, well, first off, he said the most challenging aspect of trauma is that we feel like it can define us, and ketamine helps you see the traumatic events with a new perspective, detaching from the overwhelming emotions and allowing for more objective processing. Lesley Logan 0:31 Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 1:10 Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the eye-opening convo I had with Sam Mandel in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause this now go back and listen to that one or you can listen to this one and then listen to that one. You can listen, too, in whatever order you want. I found it to be really fascinating.Brad Crowell 1:35 Yeah, actually, I always find it funny that people tell us we've clearly said this almost 300 times now, or 250 times now saying you could pick if you want to watch one, listen to one first or the other, or watch and. Lesley Logan 1:48 People need permission. Brad Crowell 1:49 But then when people meet us, they say, oh, I'm really enjoying your recap. So I listen to them first and then go back. Or other people are like, I don't know. I have to listen to this first versus the I can't listen (inaudible).Lesley Logan 1:59 They want to guess. They want to know if their takeaway is what we're going to talk about, which I think is really fascinating. I think it's also what a great personality test.Brad Crowell 2:08 Yeah. I don't know what conclusions we're drawing from it but yes. Lesley Logan 2:11 Here's what I would say. I listen to a couple true crime shows, and I cannot listen to the talking about the show until I've listened to the show, because I like the anticipation of, like, did he do it? What's going on? Like, I like that. And then I like listening to. Brad Crowell 2:26 What are you talking about you skip to the end? Lesley Logan 2:30 Well, when we watched The Crown, yes, I Google. I Google, like, if it is true. Well, sometimes the anxiety makes me want to know.Brad Crowell 2:37 This is the Lesley thing. We start a thing, there's some kind of stress, which is, in every TV show, it's on purpose. And then she pulls out her phone, Google's the resolution for the entire show. And then I'm always like, don't tell me. I don't want to know. I literally don't want to know. I want to enjoy the show the way they made it. Lesley Logan 2:54 I am not your friend to support you not finding out if you're having a boy or girl, even though I completely support whether or not they identify as that, I like to know. Brad Crowell 3:06 You're not going to do the Moira Rose, I don't know if you trust me with that secret. Lesley Logan 3:13 No, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't want to be I don't want to hold a secret. No, that's not true. I can't hold a secret. Brad Crowell 3:20 Hilarious. All right. Well, today is March 13th 2025 and it's a day for two specials things here. Lesley Logan 3:26 Oh, okay. So here we go. First up, it's International Every Girl Wins Day. This holiday helps bring attention to women's rights worldwide, especially to young girls. The celebrations involve talks, lectures and conferences on women's empowerment in every country, the goal is to achieve long-term systemic change that addresses women's rights to equity. The day also inspires young girls to take pride in their most essential assets. They're encouraged to support each other and be ambassador of the female empowerment movement, not just beneficiaries of it. The Ever Girl Wins Institute introduced this holiday. That's so cool. Brad Crowell 3:59 Yeah, pretty cool. Lesley Logan 4:00 What a fun day. Okay, well, that's so fun, we have to figure out how to celebrate that more. Let's participate next year. I don't know. Lex, if you're listening, let's talk about it.Brad Crowell 4:08 Yeah. Second up, it's National Open An Umbrella Indoors Day. Lesley Logan 4:13 What? Brad Crowell 4:13 Right? I was like, okay, I need to include this. So it's a day to test the popular superstition that opening an umbrella inside will bring bad luck. So I didn't know that was a thing. I didn't realize it. I've heard of walking under a ladder, something about black cats. I don't actually know. Lesley Logan 4:29 I have always heard that opening the umbrella inside is bad luck, but I've never participated in it, because where else are you supposed to open the umbrella, outside in the rain? Not everythin has a.Brad Crowell 4:39 You always open it indoor first, and then go outside with it.Lesley Logan 4:42 Oh, I kind of want to, if I can push the door open, I want to open the umbrella as I'm going outside, because. Brad Crowell 4:48 Yeah, as you're going outside.Lesley Logan 4:49 If there's not a, most buildings don't have a porch, like a, what do you call it? It's not a porch. It's not what you're staying on, it's, it's overhang. Most of them don't have the overhang. And I just think it's annoying, because then you're wet under your umbrella.Brad Crowell 4:49 Yes, yes.Lesley Logan 4:55 Okay, well, tell us more about this day. Brad Crowell 5:03 Apparently, superstitions are baseless beliefs held by people that influence their behavior. So, shame on you, apparently. There are irrational beliefs that performing or not performing particular acts will lead to either bad luck or good luck. National Open An Umbrella Day, Indoors Day, allows you to try your luck and see how your day goes. So if you're willing to risk it. Lesley Logan 5:27 I just think that this person is kind of an ass. It's baseless. Your superstitions are baseless beliefs. There are so much studies on where you have attention, that's where things go, and that's why manifesting works. So I would just say, focus on the good things. You don't bring in the bad. I wouldn't go wrong going, oh my God, this happened because I opened an umbrella inside, but maybe you do. And so this day is for you. Lesley Logan 5:47 Okay, so we are at P.O.T. Denver. It actually starts Friday, but we are on our way. And so if you're there, make sure you come and say hi. If you're an OPC agency or eLevate member, we are having a little happy hour, so make sure you come over and find us. We want to talk about it. We want to hug you. Then get this, guess what, guys, March 18th to the 24th the Accessories Deck is on presale.Brad Crowell 6:09 So that's less than one week, y'all. Lesley Logan 6:11 Yes, so if you go to opc.me/flashcardwaitlist, this is your last chance, because next week's podcast, we won't even be talking about it, because if you're not on the waitlist, you can't get the discount. So you must go to opc.me/flashcardwaitlist to get that 30% off. Brad Crowell 6:27 I think we'll still talk about it this week. Lesley Logan 6:29 No, no. Urgency, people. Get on it.Brad Crowell 6:30 Get on it right now, opc.me/flashcardwaitlist. Lesley Logan 6:34 Hey, look, in case our things fuck up, and even though you get on the waitlist, you don't hear about it. Brad Crowell 6:38 It's possible. Lesley Logan 6:38 Also, because this is the last flashcard deck. Is there a waitlist anymore? Brad Crowell 6:43 Yeah, what are we going to do with this waitlist? We're going to have to email y'all and be like, hey, this waitlist is now closed. Do you want to go over to other waitlists and we'll, we'll let you know what we got.Lesley Logan 6:52 Yeah, we'll have to, someone, whoever was on the team listening, please assign me that task. Okay.Brad Crowell 6:56 Okay. Lesley Logan 6:57 April. Brad Crowell 6:58 Coming up hard. Coming up fast. Lesley Logan 7:00 April is coming up fast, and Spring Training is going to be April 27th through May 3rd, and those who are on the waitlist are going to get the early bird special. And this is a different waitlist than the flashcard waitlist. Brad Crowell 7:12 True. They're not the same waitlist. Lesley Logan 7:13 No, they're not. And so if you go to opc.me/events you are going to be entered.Brad Crowell 7:19 That is plural, opc.me/eventsLesley Logan 7:21 Plural. That's where you go to make sure you get the early bird opportunity, because we will open up the early bird sign-ups a few days before regular sign-ups, and only those on the waitlist are going to get the discounted rate. Up next, Brad, what do you got for them? Brad Crowell 7:35 Okay, we've got the Profitable Pilates Accelerator free webinar, if you are taking any clients on your own anywhere, whether that is at your house or in the park or your friend is, I don't know, buying you lunch. Technically, you are getting paid to teach, and that means you have your own business. And I'm sure you're aware, Lesley and I have been working with business owners just like you, just like us, where we were and where we are, coaching them through all the hard questions. How do you get new clients? How do I make this a living? Whatever the question might be, but I have a free webinar for you, specifically on increasing your income. Okay. So, come join me. Go to prfit.biz/accelerator that is profit without the O dot B-I-Z slash accelerator and join me for this free webinar. I can't wait to dig into the three biggest secrets that Lesley and I have learned after coaching more than 2500 small business owners just like you. And then finally, we've got October of this year. Lesley Logan 8:40 Cambodia.Brad Crowell 8:41 Cambodia. We literally just got back. Lesley Logan 8:43 We just got back and it was kind of a quick trip for us. We were only there. Brad Crowell 8:47 Two and a half weeks. Yeah, we were traveling for two and a half weeks. Lesley Logan 8:50 Yeah, we had a couple of days in Singapore, so not really two full weeks in Cambodia, but we loved it, and we're jonesing to go back already. And we have some epic people who already signed up. I'm really excited. Some of these people have been on the next time I'm gonna go next time for years, and now they're coming. Brad Crowell 8:50 It's true. Lesley Logan 8:55 And we have some repeat offenders. Brad Crowell 9:09 We have someone else signing up this weekend. It's definitely starting to get full. October is a very popular time for our community. The weather is lovely. It's quite beautiful. If that's something of interest to you, make sure you reach out to us as soon as possible, and we'll get you all the information that you need to make the decision. But it's going to be October 12th through the 18th, 2025 so, come hang out in our favorite place in the world. Lesley Logan 9:33 Yes. Brad Crowell 9:33 Where do you go? Crownestretreats.com crowsnestretreats.com okay.Lesley Logan 9:39 Okay, so we're gonna get into the amazing Sam Mandel, and we're gonna learn all about ketamine and talk about it. Before we do that, we have a question from the audience. Brad Crowell 9:48 We sure do. Okay. Eva de Brune from Instagram, states and asks, I know you enjoy lifting weights. Is the reformer, like the Contrology reformer and mat and Wunda chair, etc., is that enough? Or do you recommend adding weights to the workout routine? I get asked a lot, is mat enough? Yoga, you are using your body weight. What is your take on this? So a couple of things. So I think the way that this is written, I'm not sure if she's asking if she should go to the gym and be lifting weights, or if she's asking if she'd be adding weights to your Pilates practice. Lesley Logan 10:21 I think it's go, I think it's the first, which is going to the gym and lifting weights in addition to your Pilates and your yoga. So here's the deal. Unfortunately, many of the studies that have been done on Pilates implies resistance has been done with Pilates isn't how I teach. Scientific studies cost a fuck ton of money. I actually, I've postponed a particular call with a group that does these studies multiple times, because it's tens of thousands of dollars. And the reality is, it's not even the best way of testing, because the more Pilates you do, the more muscles you bring in. So then who should we be testing? You know, there's just a lot of things. So what I can tell you is, my Contrology equipment has the heavy springs, obviously, that is resistance. That is absolutely resistance. Is it the same resistance training as heavy weights? I don't think we can say that it is. And so what I'm going to say is, I know you're very busy. I know you've got a lot going on. I would love to be able to say Pilates is all you need. I don't think it's true. Brad Crowell 10:21 It's all you need. Lesley Logan 10:21 I don't think it's true, but here's what I would say, pick a couple of days to do some heavy kettlebells. Pick a couple of days to do some barbell training. You don't have to hit. I'm not actually a big fan of hit for women over a certain age, it's can be really cortisol-inducing, but I would do some or do some heavy weightlifting. I would, also, because it's cool, because it's really cool to see what you can lift. It's really fun. The mat alone is epic and amazing for mobility and strength training. But even Joe realized that people needed more, and that's why he brought the springs in. And it's not that they need more because the mat isn't enough. It's because they need support to teach the body parts that don't have the access yet. So I actually use my weight training as information on where I have work to do, like my Pilates practice could support my weight training. I recognize like I have a balance issue when I do my single leg dead lifts. And so I use my Pilates Cadillac and my reformer to help train the things that I need so I can weight-train better. So to me, Pilates is actually so I can do my life. I'm sure there's a yogi out there who's gonna get pissed if I say yoga is not an not enough, but I'm gonna be really honest, depending on what your bone density is doing, body weight exercises alone are not necessarily enough, because you need to stress the muscles. So that is where I do think heavy springs can be compared to lifting weights, but they're just different things. Brad Crowell 12:40 Stress the bones. Lesley Logan 12:41 Stress the bones, yeah, you stress the muscles, which pull in the bones, which creates good stress on the bones, which creates good bone density. So, the other thing I would just say is your body is you got one, and the longer we wait to challenge it, the harder it is to support it. And so if you went in my routine, I do Pilates five to six days a week. I lift three to four days a week. I do yoga twice a week. I walk every day. And I do these things because I actually want to be 100 years old and still be able to travel and hike and be independent. So it's just like, what do you want in your future? And then how does your fitness regimen actually support what you want? Where are you at in your age group? Notice I didn't mention any cardio in there, because my Pilates practice has bouts of cardio in it. When I'm doing some of my yoga stuff, my heart rate goes up. When I do some of my lifting stuff, my heart rate goes up. So I'm challenging my heart in multiple ways. I don't need to spend time doing that, but I would, I would lift some weights, babe. And yes, your mat practice is essential. It's amazing. It's great for mobility and longevity. But I do not have a study in front of me that says it's enough.Brad Crowell 13:46 Right. Well, great question, Eva, thanks for asking. Lesley Logan 13:49 Yeah. You know, here's the deal. If someone wants me to do a study, I would love to do it. You have no idea how much money you actually need to do it, and you need people who know the method. I would want to have people who are beginners, people who are advanced. I want to have women, men, but then, you need to know the women's cycle and where they're at. There's so much information. And I think that until we have that, you got to do it all. Brad Crowell 14:10 You got to do it all. All right, well, stick around we'll be right back, because we're about to dig in to a really interesting conversation with a doctor, Dr. Sam Mandel. We're going to talk about. Lesley Logan 14:20 Ketamine. Brad Crowell 14:21 Ketamine. Special K, all the drug paraphernalia names. It's all the same stuff, y'all, it's just actually how you use it. And he went way deep on that, so I thought it was really interesting. We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 14:33 Okay, welcome back. Let's talk about Sam Mandel. Sam Mandel is the co-founder and CEO of Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles, Sam and his father, who's also a doctor, opened KCLA in 2014 making it one of the first ketamine clinics in the entire country. Sam's passion for this innovative treatment stems from the profound and lasting positive impacts it has on people's lives. He believes ketamine therapy offers individuals the oportunity to rewrite their stories, overcome deeply ingrained mental patterns and step into a life filled with hope, resilience and joy.Lesley Logan 15:09 Okay, so when I got to talk to Sam, I was like, okay, I'm very interested, because we've had Dr. Kelly Bender on. Brad Crowell 15:15 Yes. Lesley Logan 15:15 She's a dear friend of mine, and I know that she does ketamine therapy and treatment, and we have a personal friend who we know has done ketamine treatments. She tried to do them on her own and. Brad Crowell 15:26 Yes, I mean, she was prescribed it, but she did them at home alone, which I thought, I didn't realize that was an option.Lesley Logan 15:32 And also, we have another friend where his wife has gone to the clinic like Sam's, and then he did on his own. And so anyways, so I just was very interested, because also, I think there's a lot of misinformation out there, and then when you have a death of someone who is abusing it with other things, then people get scared of something. And so I was really intrigued, because I think a lot of ways that people are affected of being it till they see it is they have past traumas or things going on in their brain that keep them from having the ability to be it till they see it. They have all the ideas. They've been listening this podcast. They have all this support, but then they have this stuff that's keeping them in their way. And so I really want to have Sam on because if ketamine can help them, then they need it to be it till they see it, right? So here's one thing I learned, ketamine is actually a psychedelic. I guess I didn't know that. I don't know what I thought ketamine was, so I thought that was really interesting. And it's really the only legally available psychedelic in the United States. It has the ability to dissolve these barriers that get in our way and help people get out of their own way. And so obviously, traditional talk therapy is really great. It can be helpful, but it says limitations. It's because our conscious mind gets in the way and makes it difficult to confront those deep seated issues. But ketamine acts in a different part of the brain than antidepressants can, and it allows these breakthroughs that aren't necessarily possible with other methods. And I think that's really cool, because we've heard of great stories of how ketamine can help people, like vets and different things, and like. Brad Crowell 16:57 PTSD.Lesley Logan 16:58 Oh yes, and it also like just kind of helps you take a different look at what the thing is. And I think in our own brains, we can judge ourselves for our actions we took or we didn't take in that situation, because it can be difficult to kind of forgive yourself about how you participated in an event that's affecting you, or how long it's, you just get in your head about it. And the way that ketamine can actually, when prescribed correctly and when done at a I think it's so cool that there's a clinic that you can go so, you know, you're safe, you know, I mean, first of all, it is safe. Brad Crowell 17:30 It's a controlled environment. Oh, yeah. Lesley Logan 17:31 It's a controlled environment, yes.Brad Crowell 17:32 I think that's half the reason why I stayed away from drugs was I didn't know what was going to happen, and if I knew something was going to happen to me and I was going to be impaired. Am I in a place where I'm going to be safe, right? So.Lesley Logan 17:45 Right. When I finally tried doing a little like micro dosing of mushrooms, it has to be at the house. There can be nothing going on. Brad Crowell 17:53 I can't have any obligations, no expectations from anybody else.Lesley Logan 17:59 Yeah, all these things we didn't even need to do that we could have just gone to Sam's clinic, and it's all set up in his clinic. Brad Crowell 18:05 Sam's clinic. Lesley Logan 18:05 Sam's clinic. It's called, not Sam's clinic. It's called, Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles, KCLA. So anyways, I just think that it's important for me to bring to everyone's attention here, that this is something that exists, and there are places that you can do it in a controlled way to actually get the true benefits from it. And because I've had so many people tell me that they have good benefits, I just didn't want negative stuff to keep people from doing it in the right way. Brad Crowell 18:32 Well, let's talk about why you might want to participate. Why would you be signing up to do a psychedelic? What I really enjoyed about Sam was him breaking it down from the perspective of a doctor, of what it actually is doing, how it's affected his patients. They've been around since 2014 so they're 10 years. So, they've done like, 30,000 treatments or something, you know, amazing. So he said ketamine helps people to craft the story around the trauma that they have. He said what happened is fixed, meaning the past. Whatever traumatic event happened, it's fixed, and it can never be changed. The past is the past, but our story about it can change at any given moment. So the event still happened, but the story we tell ourselves about that event that is something that we can change. And he said that ketamine really helps you dig in, because, well, first off, he said the most challenging aspect of trauma is that we feel like it can define us, and ketamine helps you see the traumatic events with a new perspective, detaching from the overwhelming emotions and allowing for more objective processing. The potential for ketamine to promote neuroplasticity, meaning your brain is creating new pathways, right? So, you know the expression, old dog can't be taught new tricks, right? Well, the whole idea there is that you're in a rut. You're in a groove, and it's really hard to jump out of that groove and create a new way of thinking, because we just default to what is easiest, and what is easiest is what we already know. So if we've defined for ourselves years ago that this thing equals pain, this thing equals fear, this equals whatever the thing is the story we tell ourselves, it is actually really hard to rewrite that story, and ketamine can help allow your brain to create those new storylines, those new pathways, so it helps bump out of that rut, which I thought was pretty cool. He said ketamine provides this kind of objective clarity. It can be extremely healing and transformational for people. Lesley Logan 18:51 Yeah, it kind of makes you go, should we all just go and do a ketamine treatment? Like, can it just be, like, the jump start you need? I don't know. It feels, I just, I feel like maybe it would help me get the all the journaling in the world that I've been doing, I might be able to speed up the process if I just did a treatment around the thing that keeps coming up.Brad Crowell 20:55 I think that's the idea. And I think also, even just the concept of that, it still feels taboo. It still feels like this scary thing that, great we've put it in a controlled environment, but I actually think it would benefit society if we normalized it. Lesley Logan 21:12 Yeah, well, we have to, first of all, we got to normalize mental health and that we all have different ways.Brad Crowell 21:17 Yes, same exact stigma as any kind of therapy, or any of that. This is a different form of therapy than talk therapy, than. Lesley Logan 21:25 I don't know. Maybe this is because we actually did do 14, 15 years in LA, and I knew people who were doing these things and doing controlled micro dosing of other things. And because my friend studies it, I know the benefits. And so to me, it doesn't feel taboo. Also, maybe we all could use a little bit of like, when you lived in LA, everyone had a therapist, and it was not unheard of for people to go, yeah, I'm gonna go get some ketamine therapy. We need to normalize all that for the rest of the country. Therapy is real. Do it. And also, if you can't get to, LA, do your research. But I would definitely use Sam's website for what you're looking at, as far as what the standard should be.Brad Crowell 22:07 Like the standard, which organization's the gold standard, you know, go look up Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles, and then compare that to a local clinic. Lesley Logan 22:14 Or and or go to LA. Brad Crowell 22:16 Yeah, or reach out to them and talk to them and ask them, you know, what they recommend. Lesley Logan 22:19 Yeah, they had some great stuff. So anyways, I think it's great. I think I could see where this could be really useful. And obviously it's not what you go do every Thursday. But if you've got -ish holding you back, what are you waiting for? Brad Crowell 22:33 Yeah, let's splash that -ish.Lesley Logan 22:35 I don't think that's what Sam wants.Brad Crowell 22:42 All right, stick around. We'll be right back with those Be It Action Items from Dr. Sam Mandel. Brad Crowell 22:47 All right. So finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Sam Mandel? Borrowing Nike slogan, he said take action. Just do it. Honestly, planning and strategizing is important, thinking things through, figuring out who you are, what you want, and putting together a plan that actually matters. So, the just do it part could start with the planning, but I think it's so easy for us to have analysis paralysis. I was just having this conversation with someone over the weekend of yeah, I started to do the thing, and then I ran into a speed bump, and I had to make a choice. But to make the choice, I had to learn a whole lot of stuff, and to learn a whole lot of stuff, it was going to take me a lot of time. And then what did I do? Nothing, right? So sometimes maybe we can phone a friend and shortcut that maybe we can, I don't know, join a coaching group and shortcut that maybe we can call a doctor and shortcut that when it comes to the planning and whatever, but I think just getting out there and taking messy action, we talk about that all the time. Lesley Logan 23:43 And also, if you haven't yet listened to the interview, go listen to it, because you actually hear about how he and his father started the clinic, which was like just doing it. It was like a freaking closet with a tiny desk and everything. But I think as we plan different things, there's part of me that loves how I do things. I just go for it. And then sometimes you and the team have too many questions, and I'm like, I don't have the answer for that. I think we're gonna figure it out when we get there. And it doesn't always work that way. So I would say, if you are someone who has to know every single thing before you get started this Be It Action Item is for you.Brad Crowell 24:14 Yeah, there's just too many unknowns. So planning can stop you in your track. Lesley Logan 24:18 We've coached so many people who have made sure they have all their plans to a tee, and then something out of everyone's control comes in and fucks it all up. I've had friends who've literally planned exactly what they want their business do, and then literally, two months later, after they did everything to a tee, perfectly, exactly how they wanted, they spend the budget the right way, everything, then COVID happened, fucked it all up. Didn't matter. So, you know, I think there's a healthy balance. Brad Crowell 24:44 Yep. What about you? Lesley Logan 24:45 Okay, he talked about it's too easy to let perfection keep us from taking the steps that we need to take to get done who we want to be, so. Brad Crowell 24:51 Wait, say that one more time. Lesley Logan 24:53 It's too easy to let perfectionist keep, perfectionism keep us from taking the steps we need to take to get done who we want to be. So like. Brad Crowell 24:53 I think it would be better to say to become who we want to be. Lesley Logan 25:03 To become who we want to be, probably. So I couldn't agree more. And he said you're going to make mistakes, and it's really the only way you actually succeed in life. And he said, if you're dealing with mental health condition, he encourages you to call and so a lot of times perfectionism shows up as a sign of imposter syndrome that you're dealing with, but it could also be a way of you controlling things, which can be part of a mental health situation. And so.Brad Crowell 25:26 I mean, it's the same exact, here's a perfect example. If he's the gold standard and you don't live in Los Angeles, then you won't take any action, because you can't get to the best one, right? That is perfectionism. What you could do is take messy action, give them a call and say hey, I don't live there, but.Lesley Logan 25:44 What are my options? Brad Crowell 25:45 What am I, what should, what should we be talking about here and just see if there is a path or some kind of alternate option for you, wherever it is that you live. So. Lesley Logan 25:52 Yeah, I mean, we talk about perfectionism here a lot, and I would just say, don't get mad at the perfectionist tendencies that you have. Use them as a highlighter of where you have work to do, whether that is doing a controlled ketamine treatment to get over this perfectionist issue that you have, or it's how can I get a friend over here who I just envy that they just go for things to help me take a look at this thing that I want to do, because I can borrow a little bit of their imperfection and go-getterness and help you. You know what I mean? Brad Crowell 26:23 It's like a barrier. Perfectionism is a barrier that we throw up to keep ourselves from failure. Lesley Logan 26:33 It is a great excuse for not getting shit done. You are correct, sir. Like, I know a lot of people who will say, oh, it's because I'm perfectionist. That's why I haven't done it. And it's a really good excuse that people will just go, oh, well, that's true.Brad Crowell 26:45 For me, I think it's the other extreme of the concept of, oh, I don't set any goals, because then I can't be let down. If you heard someone say that, you would go, well, that's not how I want to live. Well, the irony is that perfectionism is just the flip side of that coin. We are inadvertently putting roadblocks in the way. We've got to make sure everything's good, because if we don't, then it's going to fail, right? Then I'm going to be let down. Lesley Logan 27:09 I really enjoyed him sharing his stories of how he built everything, because they had to be (inaudible). Even if everything they did around how they controlled the environment for ketamine was exactly to a tee, the way they had to open the business, grow the business, put things together, you know, they had to do it, trying to figure it out, because it didn't exist before. And so a lot of you who are listening have ideas. Brad Crowell 27:30 He said he went to a Radio Shack and bought a burner phone so that they could make sure they had some kind of a (inaudible).Lesley Logan 27:36 I think it was the Radio Shack that, like, is on Santa Monica Boulevard. Brad Crowell 27:36 No it's the other one. That one, you brought up, though. Lesley Logan 27:42 Yeah. I was like, but even if you just listen to this episode to learn from Sam, just getting started with what you have access to that helps you get going, we have to stop allowing ourselves to be like, well, I don't have enough information. I don't have enough of this. I don't have enough this to start, it's affecting your gifts from being enjoyed by the people who it's for. Imagine if Sam and his dad hadn't started in an office because it's not sexy enough, right? So anyways, just do it. That's what he said.Brad Crowell 28:09 Just do it.Lesley Logan 28:10 Yeah, I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 28:11 And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 28:12 Thank you so much for listening to our episode today. How are you going to use these tips in your life? Are you going to go to KCLA? Please let us know. Tag Sam Mandel. Tag the Be It Pod. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 28:23 Bye for now. Lesley Logan 28:25 That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. 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Lesley Logan sits down with Sam Mandel, co-founder of Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles, to discuss the transformative potential of ketamine therapy for mental health. They debunk common misconceptions, explore its impact on PTSD, anxiety, and depression, and highlight how it empowers individuals to reshape their personal narratives.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:What ketamine therapy is and how it differs from traditional treatments.How ketamine enhances neuroplasticity and helps reframe traumaThe science behind ketamine's impact on depression, anxiety, and PTSD.The difference between medical ketamine use and recreational misuse.What to expect during a ketamine therapy session.How ketamine therapy can help individuals reconnect with themselves and regain motivation.Episode References/Links:Ketamine Clinics LA Website - https://Ketamineclinics.comInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/ketamineclinicslaFacebook - https://www.facebook.com/KetamineClinicsLASam Mandel Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thesammandelGuest Bio:Co-founder & CEO of Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles (KCLA), Sam Mandel, is a tour-de-force of compassion and innovation in mental health care. From volunteering at a teen-to-teen suicide prevention hotline at twelve to pioneering one of the world's foremost Ketamine Infusion Therapy clinics in 2014 alongside his father, Dr. Steven L. Mandel, Sam has channeled his lifelong passion for healthcare advocacy into transforming lives for the better. Sam was featured in Entrepreneur's list of Top 10 Inspiring Healthcare Entrepreneurs to Watch in 2023 and acknowledged by MSN as an Entrepreneur Leading the Business Frontier in 2024. Numerous media outlets have interviewed Sam for his expertise in Ketamine Infusion Therapy, and he is a frequent speaker at medical conferences and events. Under his leadership, KCLA has provided over 30,000 infusions to over 6,000 patients with an 83% treatment success rate, establishing the field's gold standard treatment protocols and patient satisfaction. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox.DEALS! 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Lesley Logan 0:16 Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:59 Okay, Be It babe. This is going to be a different kind of episode, but in the best way. I have Sam Mandel, who is a founder of Ketamine Clinics in LA and I was really intrigued by what I know about ketamine from my friends' holistic doctors. And when he came up as someone I could interview, I was like, oh, we need to do this, because there is a lot of misinformation about ketamine and what ketamine can be used for, and I'm on a mission to help you be it till you see it. And I really want you to understand all the different ways that you can have support in feeling more like yourself and not letting things get in your way. And so that is why we're going to talk about ketamine today. And if you think you know what it is, I strongly encourage you to just stay and listen, because I thought I knew and I learned so much. And then on top of all of that, I really enjoy Sam's story of how he started these clinics and what he and his dad did. And so there's just a lot of beautiful information in this episode, and I can't wait for you to hear it. So here is Sam Mandel. Lesley Logan 2:00 All right, Be It babe. I am really excited. I can tell you for a fact, we've never talked about this on the Be It Pod. And only is it quite timely, I think it's actually extremely imperative that we have this discussion so we have Sam Mandel here on the show. We're gonna talk about ketamine and all things about it, ketamine therapy. Sam, can you tell everyone who you are and probably why you rock at ketamine therapy?Sam Mandel 2:25 Yes, yeah. Thank you so much for having me, Lesley. So, I am Sam Mandel. I'm the co-founder and CEO of Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles. We're one of the first ketamine clinics in the country, established in 2014 and we specialize in IV infusions of ketamine for mental health, but we also offer several other innovative therapeutics for mental health. Lesley Logan 2:45 I love that mental health is something more people are talking about, and there's like more awareness around it, but also that there can be clinics that are working on different ways of helping, supporting mental health, including these infusions. For people who have heard about ketamine, and maybe not the positive ways, can we kind of, can we just dive in and ease their nerves about what we're talking about here?Sam Mandel 3:07 Let's do it. Some of your listeners are definitely like, ketamine what? And there's five different people saying that it's five different things, and all of them are correct. So that's one of the interesting things about ketamine. It is, first and foremost, an FDA-approved anesthetic for humans. It was FDA-approved in 1970. This is an old medicine. It's also commonly used in veterinary medicine. So a lot of people know of it as a horse tranquilizer or a cat tranquilizer. In some circles, it's more commonly known as that than as a drug for humans. But there's a lot of medications that we use for humans, that we also use in veterinary medicine. And it's also a drug of abuse, or something that people use recreationally or self-medicate with, depending on how you want to look at it, known as Special K. Same drug. It's used as an analgesic, as a pain reliever, in emergency room departments and crisis situations, trauma situations, when someone's in a terrible accident, they're in pain, they need sedation, or someone goes in and they need their shoulder reset, they commonly will use ketamine for conscious sedation. So it is a ubiquitous drug. It has a lot of different uses and applications, and one of its most recent, or probably its most recent, addition to that list of its identities, if you will, is as a mental health treatment. And in the last 25 years, there's been a growing body of clinical research proving ketamine to really be among the fastest, if not the fastest-acting, safest, most effective depression treatments available today.Lesley Logan 4:36 I mean, it's kind of amazing that it can be all these different things, also not, right? Like there's so many things, I feel like there's a lot of untapped medicines out there that we're already using, and we don't realize it could be done for other things. Can we talk about how it helps? Because I'll say my family's understanding of mental health treatment is when you sit on a couch and you talk to a therapist and you go weekly if you're depressed, you can take a pill that will kind of help with some hormonal imbalances. But that's not what this is. Sam Mandel 5:01 Yes, that is not what this is. And by the way, talk therapy is great. I go to therapy every week, you know, even when I'm in a good place and I don't necessarily feel like I have a lot to talk about, it's like going to the gym. I just go. I show up every week no matter what. And I think that's really good and healthy, especially if you have a therapist who you think cares about you and is invested in you, and you can just talk about, you know, life. And I'll tell you, sometimes when I go and I don't have anything bothering me or an agenda is when I do the most important work in those sessions, sometimes, so you just never know. But talk therapy is great, but it can only go so far. The conscious mind really gets in the way. Finding someone who cares is difficult the right credentialed person is expensive. A lot of the best people typically don't take insurance. It's not true for all of them. There's wonderful people out there who do, but a lot of the really good ones don't, and so it's a tough thing, but it has its limitations, like with anything. Ketamine and other psychedelic medicines, because ketamine, for all intended purposes, really is a psychedelic, and it's really the only legally available psychedelic in the United States, has the ability to really dissolve these barriers that get in our way. It helps people to get out of their own way and with exponential growth in ways that really are not possible and haven't been seen in any other treatment or modality. And the way it does that is really two primary mechanisms of action. The first is the neuro chemical effects and what's going on in the brain and how ketamine is impacting the brain and our neurochemistry in ways that really nothing else does. And the other is the experiential component, psychologically, what is going on during the experience or the trip that people have when they're receiving this medicine. And both of those are profound and really create lasting impact. On the neuro-chemical level, there's a neurotransmitter called glutamate. It's the most abundant neurotransmitter in the brain. It's present in 85% of the brain. All the other neurotransmitters combined comprise only 15% but for some reason, we've been disproportionately focused on them with mental health treatment. Those are the common ones you know of. Serotonin, dopamine, norepinephrine, you know, the most common class of antidepressant medications are SSRIs. Those are selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, and those are targeting serotonin. They're a tool. They help some people. They really don't help a lot of people, too, and the people they do help, they really cause a lot of negative side effects and weight gain, sexual dysfunction, dried mouth, blurred vision, even increased suicidality, and the list goes on and on, really terrible side effects that are really debilitating for a lot of people. Even when those side effects are not as debilitating, the quality of relief is typically not very good. So people will say, oh, well, I definitely am not as depressed, but I don't feel happy either. I'm just kind of existing. They have the spectrum of life and of the human experience narrowed, so the lows are not as low, but they're not really thriving either. Not a nice place to be. Is it better than being in bed all day? Absolutely. But that's not the goal. That's not my goal for my life. That's not my goal for other people's lives and for the patients who come to our clinic. We want people to really thrive. Ketamine has the ability to help people to truly thrive. It restores compassion for self and others. It is enhanced energy and motivation for most people. It's a genuine reconnection of self. One of the things that happens with this, with the glutamatergic system and other processes that are occurring in the brain with IV infusions of ketamine, is it causes and promotes neurogenesis, enhanced neuroplasticity, actual new pathways, new connections forming in the brain. This helps people to form new habits, new patterns, new ways of thinking and being that can be very, very positive by disrupting a lot of the automatic responses and reactions we have in our day to day life that get so deeply enmeshed in us that they become a part of our personality, and ketamine can kind of push the reset button on that so that we have the opportunity to consciously choose who we want to be and how we want to be, and helps us call into question the things that we've accepted as just that's the way that I am, or that's the way that it is, and that's not the case most of the time. You look at trauma, for example, ketamine is extremely helpful for depression and anxiety, but also for PTSD, and a lot of people have some trauma that is at the root of one of those issues, and ketamine helps people to recraft the story around that trauma. So what happened is fixed and can never change. The past is the past, but our stories about it can change at any given moment, who we are and who we were and the other people and our role in it, and their role in it, and what happened and what didn't happen, and ketamine provides this kind of objective clarity on that that can be extremely healing and transformational for people.Lesley Logan 9:50 Yeah, this is fascinating. What I've known about ketamine, and I have friends who, I have a holistic doctor friend who offers it as a treatment, and I've heard of these amazing effects that can happen, but I never understood on the brain level, like what's going on and why it's different than the antidepressants that people are on, and how it could, so if someone comes in, first of all, what are some of the reasons why they're coming in for treatment, and then what is the, what are the expectations? Are they coming in one time for an IV infusion? Is this a weekly thing? And how long can the effects last? Can it be forever? Do they have to keep coming back? Can I get the lowdown on that? Sam Mandel 10:25 Yeah, you're asking all the right questions. So what treatment looks like is typically a series of six infusions over two to three weeks after that process I just explained where people are cleared for treatment. They come in, we have them fill out some paperwork, do a brief physical exam, and they come back to a private room. We help them to become comfortable in a recliner with noise canceling headphones, a sleep mask, unlimited selection of relaxing music, pillows, blankets, and we start an IV, and then we infuse the ketamine for 50 to 55 minutes. And it's a slow, gradual, steady state of infusion. People are conscious and awake the entire time. There's a level of dissociation where we don't want them to go so far that they don't know what's happening, but we want them to go into it far enough that they can kind of have a little bit of that quieting of the noise and chatter in their minds, and get a little bit of that clarity that I was describing earlier, and this separation really from themselves in a healthy way to take a look at things that can be really therapeutic, and doing that inner work. We monitor them the whole time. We use hospital-grade monitoring equipment. So that's like pulse, oxygen, EKG, blood pressure, continuous monitoring. I mean, it's a very safe medicine when it's used responsibly in a clinical setting like Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles. We still do all the proper monitoring just to make sure that people are comfortable and safe. And yeah, it's, that's pretty much the, you know, summary of the experience.Lesley Logan 11:53 Yeah, no. Thank you for sharing that, because I think, I don't think anyone's ever explained that, and I'm trying to think about people listening. It's like, well, what does it look like, you know, because let's just talk about what, we have heard about ketamine in the news lately, and it will continue to be in the news as people are going on trial, like when we hear Matthew Perry pass away from not the best use of ketamine, I think people are like, well, then how do you, what does it look like? Am I doing this myself? And I love that you have a wonderful protocol that allows people to be safe and use it in the best way that gets them the best results. But can we talk about the dark sides of ketamine, and what are some signs that people might not be in the safest situations using ketamine?Sam Mandel 12:30 Yeah, well, I'll definitely answer that with your reference to Matthew Perry, which is obviously a really sad situation. He was taken advantage of by people he trusted. He was a addict. He had a really, he's really struggled with addiction. He was very public about that, and not with ketamine specifically, but with really any substance that he could get his hands on. And was in a lot of pain, obviously, and it's a terrible situation. I think it's really important that people understand, though, that that has nothing to do with ketamine therapy. And the media created a lot of confusion for people saying that he had had ketamine therapy a few weeks ago and but that wasn't really a part, a factor in his death. But by the way, he had that and, you know, saying that he died from the acute effects of ketamine, that's just it was really, really distorted. He took more than 10 times the dose of ketamine that we give in the clinic by himself, in combination with buprenorphine, which is essentially an opioid, and Lorazepam, a benzodiazepine, which is another sedative. So he's combined three powerful sedatives, one of them in really absurd doses, by himself in a hot tub. And of course, what happens? He becomes incapacitated and he drowns. This is not, this is such a departure from what we do when we use ketamine in a therapeutic context. There's no correlation, but the way that it's been reported on, and what the average person hears is, oh, ketamine is a bad, dangerous drug, and that's it. That's the takeaway, and that's really a sad thing for people to to get from it. What they should get is that addiction is a serious illness. What they should get is taking lots of sedatives in combination is dangerous. Taking drugs unsupervised, alone in a hot tub is dangerous. These are the takeaways. There was even medical doctors involved in supplying it to him, but they were part of an illicit, underground, illegal drug ring. You know, this is not like mental health care, you know?Lesley Logan 14:25 I know. It's so sad because, well, first of all, the whole situation is sad. It's sad that someone was taken advantage of. It's sad that someone died from combining too many things, but also because they had doctors doing it, like all of that is sad, and, but, really, what I find, and one of the reasons I wanted to talk with you is, so this podcast is called Be It Till You See It, and one of the things that I am always on a search for is like, what can keep us from being it until we see it, what's holding us back in our life, or what can help us more? And the facts of what ketamine therapy that you do that is supervised, and you have pre-screened people to make sure that this is the right therapy for them, the benefits can actually change people's lives, like you said at the beginning, to choose what they want, and that allows them to step into the person that they want to be, like to me, this can be an amazing option for people who they know what they want, but they are just stuck, and they've got other things going on that with their mental health that the talk therapy hasn't helped with, or antidepressants haven't helped with. And so I really wanted to, like, clear the air and go, this can be an option for the right person.Sam Mandel 15:30 Absolutely and I'm really grateful for the opportunity to speak with you and for you creating a platform to have conversations like this, because people deserve to know the truth. And you know, you talk about talk therapy. I mean, a number of patients have literally said that was like 20 years of therapy in an hour. I mean, it really is that exponentially transformational. And it's not instead of therapy, but in addition to, right? When you can do a treatment like this and then work through the material and the learnings that come up for you with someone who understands mental health, who you trust, that's where a lot of even more growth can happen, and you can implement those learnings into your day to day life in the weeks to come. That process is usually referred to as integration, and it can look a lot of different ways, but then you have your experience. How do you integrate it into your life and actually make lasting change? Ketamine really does produce transformation for most people. In the almost 11 years that we've been doing this, we have done over 30,000 infusions. We have an 83% success rate, and we're typically not seeing people who are just wanting to have growth because they're stuck. We're seeing people who have treatment resistant depression, complex PTSD, severe anxiety, suicidality. I mean, there are definitely more moderate cases, but we see a lot of people have really just they've tried a lot, and some of them tried everything, and they haven't benefited. And this really works for them, because it works on under a completely different mechanism of action than the conventional treatments like antidepressant pills or even ECT or talk therapy, or really anything else out there. Lesley Logan 17:04 Yeah, when I think about PTSD, we obviously a lot of things about vets. People have been in the military, but there are people with PTSD who have had other traumas. It doesn't have to be that you've been to war. You could have been in a bad car accident, you could have been assaulted. Can you kind of explain and maybe it's redundant, but just how does ketamine help with PTSD, and then what does someone's life look like? What with one, do you have a case that a person who you can talk about, like, who had PTSD and like, what their life was like after the ketamine treatment? Sam Mandel 17:29 I'm glad you bring that up, because while a lot of us do think of military and war, there's actually many more cases of PTSD among the civilian population in the examples that you mentioned with violence, assault, accidents, etc. So it's super common, unfortunately. I believe there's around 16 million Americans suffering from PTSD who are at least diagnosed. There's many more, I'm sure, who are undiagnosed. And ketamine really does help with the neurochemistry in the brain and helping to rewire the brain, and it also really helps with the perception that we have of ourselves, of the event. People who have trauma are able to go back and revisit the trauma without being as emotionally triggered by it. And so sometimes, when I've talked about this with you know, friends, they say, yeah, you can revisit your trauma and work through it, and it's so great. And they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Why would I want to revisit my trauma? What are you talking about? I'm going to go and spend time and money to go there? No, thank you. I spent time and money avoiding my trauma, not going to visit it. But it isn't like that. You know? There's this ability to work through it without having the kind of pain of going there that is so often keeping people from addressing it head on in talk therapy and in life. We avoid, naturally, what's painful, but it isn't painful for most people in this context, they're able to have this detachment that is healthy in this way, to revisit it and to understand who we are, who we were, what our role was, what It was and etc, and to get clarity on that. And it can be really healing. It can really provide closure for a lot of people. And just with the whole cascade of different chemicals going on in the brain, it gives people generally a better mood and more positive outlook and demeanor, and enhanced feelings of compassion towards oneself and towards others and energy and motivation and just all around wellness, it's an elevator in that way which can just be really motivating for people to be able to do the things that most of us know we need to do and just struggle with in terms of our lifestyle, like fitness and eating healthy and sleeping well and talk therapy and having healthy relationships with people, getting outdoors and getting some sun and some fresh air, doing things we enjoy, all that stuff is absolutely critical for longevity, and for someone who's really severely depressed or anxious or dealing with real trauma, they can also feel like it's almost impossible to do a lot of those things. Lesley Logan 20:00 Yeah, yeah. You know, it's really interesting. If you're not someone who has PTSD, or you haven't had, like, severe depression, it can be hard to understand that it becomes all encompassing, you know? But if you think about it, like, when you've had an injury, you've been sick for a few days and you can't leave the bed, that's the the domino effect of what happens to your strength, and then what happens to your ability to, like, feel like you can reach out and that you can connect with people because you've been sick for a week. It's an easy way to see like, oh, if that's my life all the time, you know, it's not easy to go outside, and it doesn't feel easy to connect with people. And so it becomes part of their whole life. And so it's really cool to hear that with ketamine treatments over a couple of weeks that they could have a new lease on life and enjoy it. And I love that you brought up longevity, because I think we forget that how we treat our bodies now is what dictates how long will you get to have them? Hopefully, there won't be anything that stops us from living the life that we're supposed to but if you don't see like a lease on life there, what longevity do you have, you know, so it must be really amazing to get to do what you do every day. You really help so many people.Sam Mandel 21:01 I love it. It's the most gratifying thing ever, you know. When I tell people a lot of my job, the reality of what I do on a day to day basis, I have to do a lot of things I don't like to do, I don't want to do. I'm the CEO of my company. I get the worst, toughest problems that no one else can deal with. I get the fires to put out, the problems, the issues that got escalated to me, and all the weight and pressure and responsibility of it, and there's a lot of stuff, this is not fun, frankly, but I do it because of the, for the patients and for my team, and the work that we're doing, the impact that we're having. It's hugely motivating and gratifying. And when I see patient who I pass in the hallway in the clinic, and they just, can I just give you a hug, or I just want to say thank you so much, or we get a new Yelp review, and someone goes through and lists, you know, half my team by name and how amazing each one of them is, and how life-changing this has been for them. That's what gets me up in the morning, and that's what helps me to keep going every day. I just love it. The transformations are very abundant. And, you know, like I said, 83% it's not magic. It doesn't work for every person every time. It's not perfect, but it is a really incredible treatment.Lesley Logan 22:04 Yeah, yeah, I do understand that. I mean, my husband and I run our own businesses, and sometimes you can forget what you do while you're doing it, because you're doing all the fires, yeah? But then you do get stopped by someone who's been helped by it, or their life has changed, and you're like, oh, that's why I do this. Obviously, you know, it's been a journey to get to do this. Can you take us back how you figured out how to create a space where people could have ketamine therapy? You know, you are the first in the country. So, like, there wasn't really a model to go off of. So I feel like there's a be it till you see it story in there.Sam Mandel 22:36 Oh yeah. Started with me building the website with GoDaddy website builder, drag and drop modules, not knowing a lick of code, never built a website or anything of the sort, not even the most tech savvy guy, and literally just dragging and dropping and, you know, doing research on articles and clinical research, and conferring with my father, who I co-founded the practice with. He's a physician, and I'm talking about, what do you think about this? I'm just trying to make sense of it all in a way that I could understand it well enough to then be able to put it into layman's terms and explain it to other people. What is this? How does it work? And just putting it together, and then going to Radio Shack and getting a motorLesley Logan 23:17 That's how long ago this is because I don't even think they're around anymore.Sam Mandel 23:20 They're not, They went bankrupt. Lesley Logan 23:22 Was it the Radio Shack on Santa Monica Boulevard underneath the yoga place? Because that was my favorite. Sam Mandel 23:27 It was the Radio Shack in Marina Del Rey by the CVS and little strip mall off of Max Stella or something. Anyways, I got a Motorola flip phone prepaid, and I said to my father, you ready to launch the site? We're going to make it live. And made it live, and started taking calls on this cell phone. We were renting space in another doctor's office that was literally this closet. No kidding, they used it as a utility closet before we rented it, and once we moved out and got our own space. They went back to just keeping boxes in there. That's how tiny this room was, no kidding, and it was just really a trip. We had a operating room, recovery area, recovery room for an OR right outside of that little closet that we were in, which, by the way, we were sitting at literally just two folding chairs, a folding table with two laptops, and that was it, no kidding. And we use this recovery area to see patients. And we saw our first few patients, and their transformations were so incredible. We went, this is just too special. We have to do whatever it takes to do more of this. And my father was working as an anesthesiologist. He also has a master's degree in psychology. He was chief of anesthesia in this plastic surgery suite where we were. And so it started out with, well, he's already there, doing anesthesia for the surgery. Maybe we see a couple patients here or there, see how it goes. And next thing we knew, we just started getting busier and busier. The word got out. This was such a radical thing that a lot of people were very incredulous, very suspicious. A lot of people were very critical, but we were like, it doesn't matter. I mean, this is just too special. And it got to the point where my father had to choose between doing our cases or doing ketamine infusions for patients. And I, I remember that quite vividly, where I said, it's really gotta pick. We can't continue to do both. And it was a big risk, you know, it was a really big risk. So I have a lot of respect, you know, for him, for that and that we both just said, let's be all in on this. And, you know, we bootstrapped it. We put everything on credit cards. We had no investors, no financing, no loans, nothing. It's just a little bit of cash, credit cards. And really, just brick by brick, built it up, and now we have 15 employees, 5000 square feet, a really beautiful purpose-built office. I still have, well after the falling table, I had a custom desk built because of maximizing every inch of that space. So I had, there was a little nook between two pillars in that room, under a window, where they made this skinny little desk that was probably literally eight inches wide by three and a half feet long or something. Just stick it in this little nook so I could sit at a proper desk, and I still have that here in our suite now, and so that's kind of fun, but, yeah, it's just truly been an incredible journey.Lesley Logan 26:12 I thank you for taking this back, because we do have a lot of people who are entrepreneurs, and I think that they need to hear that like even a ketamine clinic, the first of its kind, starts in a utility closet. You know, people don't realize, because if you, one, you have to know if people want the thing. You knew it was great. You knew it could be amazing. But you have to get people to buy in, and especially on something that long ago, where people might not know all the amazing things that it can do. And even today, now, even with a beautiful space that can attract people in and make them feel super safe, doing something that changes lives, but also going up against where misconceptions, misinterpretations, and also the people who are misusing it can affect the majority getting the help that they need. I love hearing the stories of how things come to be. And also that is pretty amazing that your dad was like, yeah, I'm gonna quit my safe job. There's always gonna be surgeries, you know. So that's so, so, so cool, and it's really amazing. Is there anything about ketamine therapy that I haven't asked you, that you want to make sure people know? Is there anything else that we can help people understand why this would be something they might need to use, or might use so that they can have the life they want to have?Sam Mandel 27:19 Yeah, I do want to mention, you know, I was talking about how, you know, Matthew Perry was misusing it, and how different that situation is from what we do. And ketamine is still something that people do use recreationally or abuse or misuse. It's not as common, I think, as sometimes it's portrayed, but it definitely can happen, but it's also not in the same category as most other substances, because ketamine is not addictive in the way that most others are. And what I mean by that is you don't develop a physical dependence on it if, for example, like nicotine or opioids or alcohol or benzodiazepines, all you can get to the point where you actually need it to not feel sick. I mean, you have physical symptoms of feeling like nausea, headaches, wanting to throw up. Even with benzos, you can actually, if you abruptly stop taking high doses, you can literally have seizures and die. And you know, you can have symptoms from abrupt cessation of alcohol if you're a heavy alcoholic. That doesn't happen with ketamine. So some people can use it in the way that they're using it as a means to escape, but that's not really that different as far as the psychological dependence in the way that someone can use ice cream or chocolate or, you know, sour candies or sex or any of these other video games as a means of escape or avoiding or to self-soothe. So I think it's important that people understand that. It also has a very, very high therapeutic index. There's actually no known lethal dose of ketamine, so you can obviously be in a bad, unsafe environment, where, if you take a bunch and get into a car, that's not a not such a great outcome for you, or in a jacuzzi, but the medicine itself is unlikely to hurt you on its own. Most of the issues are people in bad situations, or they're combining it with other drugs. Virtually, almost all of the fatalities that are related to ketamine were one of those two, either in combination with other drugs and or in a situation like behind the wheel of a car. So I just want people to know that it's not to say that there aren't people who have an issue with misusing ketamine, because there are, but it really is distinct from most other substances that people are misusing or abusing.Lesley Logan 29:20 Thank you for saying that, because I do think, as a child of the night, you know, I grew up in the 80s, so it's, like, always just say no to drugs. Sam Mandel 29:25 The cocaine epidemic. Lesley Logan 29:28 Yeah, so I know they really that didn't really help them, did it? But, like, they thought it would. But I, like, grew up, so it's really funny when I have friends who, like, talk about doing some sort, some psychedelics, or do I have this innate like, I don't, I don't know, I don't know if I could do that. I'm afraid to try. I'm like, I'll be addicted on the first dose. Sam Mandel 29:45 Right, right, right. Lesley Logan 29:47 This is my fear, which is why I drink, right? That's what people do. And so they said no to drugs, but then they drink. But I really appreciate because it's nice to know that if I were to do a ketamine therapy, I'm not going to be dependent on coming to ketamine therapy every single week or I'll be using it at home, like, it's nice to know that it's a non-addictive thing that people can use to get the benefits. And I think that can make a lot of people feel more comfortable, you know. Sam Mandel 30:08 Yeah, because people are afraid of that, they think, God, well, if I go and do this, even if it's in a therapeutic way, am I going to become a ketamine addict? You know? I'm going to go and then be looking to score some on the street the next day. It's really a sad perception that some people might have due to the media or for whatever reason or they know somebody who misuse ketamine or the DARE program, like you said, or the 80s. A lot of baloney. Lesley Logan 30:28 Oh, and by the way, the DARE program was a lot of baloney. I just heard a whole podcast about it, and I was like, ah. So, but it, but it does put in people's minds, and also good for good reason. Like, I don't want people going out there doing other drugs we do know our addictive and like, hoping that they are fine out there the first time, but I am on this mission of helping people figure out how to get out of their own way and live their best life, and sometimes our own way are things that are really outside of our control, the PTSD, the depressions, the mental health, the suicide like I think it's important that people have access to forms of therapy out there that they may not know about or they may have misconceptions. Because we do know that the media does like to click bait things into headlines that get people to look at them, but don't actually give all the information. So I'm just so grateful that you were here to just really explain all this and the benefits of it.Sam Mandel 31:22 Absolutely, yeah, no, I appreciate the opportunity. Yeah, there are drugs that you can do once or twice and develop a real serious problem with pretty fast, methamphetamine, probably not one that you need to ever try. You know, if you're curious about trying drugs, I'd say take that one off the list. Heroin, probably not a good idea. Pretty easy to die, pretty easy to get addicted to that one, right? Opioids, crack, cocaine. These are some that maybe you don't need to, you don't need to check out, but maybe there's some others that if you really want to with the right mindset in the right context, if you're going to be safe or responsible, maybe you'd be okay with. And by the way, I'm not advocating for you to go do illicit drugs illegally either. But there are some that you can have, even in a controlled environment, such as ours, where you don't need to be afraid of them. I'll tell you what are the most dangerous, though, is the prescription legitimate drugs. As a matter of fact, prescriptions are more commonly abused than any of the other illicit drugs. You look at your stimulants like Adderall, your benzodiazepines, like Xanax, opioids, I mean, these are drugs that are a lot of people are really hooked on and that are killing a lot of people, especially the opioids, but because they're from big pharma, they're not all that bad. I mean, people are finally starting to scrutinize the opioids, but the others are still kind of under the radar, and they're really widely abused, but the focus is on the big, bad, illegal ones. Lesley Logan 32:39 I know of a client who's a social worker, and she used to work in a hospital, and we're talking about pain meds, and she's like Lesley, I watched a 14 year old kid come in super healthy, just had a broken arm. They had to have surgery, but within the three days they were there, they were extra tapping the pain meds. And she's like, we create addicts with these pharmaceutical drugs quickly, but we don't think of it like that, because they had a prescription written. And so it's important for us to educate ourselves, to be informed and to be able to advocate for ourselves or advocate for others when we have this information we can. So, thank you so much. I'm not gonna let you go. We actually are gonna take a brief break, and then we're gonna find out Be It Action Items from you. Lesley Logan 33:19 All right, Sam, where can people find you, follow you, connect with you. If they want to know more about ketamine therapies, if they want to come to your clinics, how can they connect with you best?Sam Mandel 33:28 Yeah, so ketamineclinics.com. That's K-E-T-A-M-I-N-E-C-L-I-N-I-C-S dot com. Lots of great information on there. People are more than welcome to call us, 310-270-0625. Consultations are free. We're always happy to chat see how we can help you. We do offer other treatments we really didn't talk about today, TMS, General Psychiatry, medication management, we take 12 of the biggest insurance networks in California, including Medicare, so there's a lot more that we can cover with you. Whether or not ketamine is the right fit if you are dealing with a mental health condition, I would encourage you to call and see if there's anything we can do to help. And we're on social it's ketamineclinicsLA on all socials and my personal is theSamMandel on all socials. And just really happy to connect with people and hear their stories, answer questions and help in any way that we can. Lesley Logan 34:23 I love it. Thank you. And that's also so cool, because we mentioned, like, it can be really hard to find a therapist these days because they don't always take insurance. So to hear that you do. It's really nice. Okay, we always ask people bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps they can take to be it till they see it. What do you have for us?Sam Mandel 34:41 Oh, I wasn't ready for that one. I would say action. Take action. Just do it. Take Nike slogan. I mean, honestly, planning and strategizing is important, and thinking things through and figuring out who you are. What you want, what you like, what you don't like, putting together a plan matters. But I think most of us, or almost all of us, spend too much time on that, and there's just too many unknowns and too many things that you really can't solve for until you're in it and doing it, and it's too easy to let perfectionism keep us from taking the steps that we need to take to get done what we want, become, who we want to be, and who what our potential is. And I personally struggle with this too. So I say that from, you know, my own experience, and I really strive, and I want to encourage other people to really strive, to just get out there and do it, and you're going to make mistakes, and that's okay, but it's really the only way to succeed in life. You have to be on the fields, on the court, in it, and behind the scenes, thinking, planning, strategizing is only going to get you so far.Lesley Logan 35:58 Yeah, yeah. Oh, thank you for that. And also, I can tell you, practice what you just preached, because it's true. You started with a utility closet and some folding chairs and a Motorola phone, I mean. But also, you're correct. People do spend too much time in the planning, or they're waiting for it to be perfect, or they're waiting for the perfect decoration, and then they have the perfect branding and all the things. And if you guys had done that, you wouldn't have been able to help the thousands of people that you have today. So thank you so much, Sam for being here, for educating us, for informing us. Lesley Logan 36:29 And, you guys, how are you gonna use these tips in your life? Please share this episode with a friend as you hear conversations come up about the misuse of ketamine, and now you know you could share this with them to educate them, and also, if you have friends and family or yourself who needs this, please contact Sam and his team, because there's help out there for you. Until next time, Be It Till You See It.Lesley Logan 36:50 That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. 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Episode 107! This conversation with Sam is all about mental health from the perspective of someone leading what is now one of the world's most respected Ketamine clinics. Ketamine has it's proponents and it's naysayers in the mental health treatment space and Sam covers the risks and benefits to this therapy that has been a key aspect of therapy for many of his clinicians' patients' suffering from PTS, depression and other mental health crisis. At the early age of 13, Sam Mandel began volunteering for TeenLine, a non-profit teen-to-teen suicide prevention hotline where he took calls from teens in crisis. And in 2014, Sam co-founded with his father, Dr. Steven Mandel, Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles. Join us in this fascinating conversation about Ketamine and other therapies that have had much success for those struggling with mental health challenges, in addition to how living a natural, holistic life can greatly impact overall mental well-being. Enjoy!============================================================================Follow Sam here: Website: https://ketamineclinics.com/IG: @thesammandelhttps://www.instagram.com/thesammandel/LinkedIn: Sam Mandelhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/thesammandel/Thanks for listening! Eric Sardina Executive Life Coaching Feeling stuck, empty or out-of-sync at work, at home, or in your relationships? As a business and life coach, I help individuals work through these feelings towards authentic lives of meaning and purpose. I also work with organizations to optimize their teams and individual contributors. Interested in working with me or learning more? Connect with me below: Website: https://www.ericsardina.com - book a free, 15-minute strategy session. https://calendly.com/ericsardina/8-session-authentically-you-discovery-call-website-linkFollow me on: Instagram: @Eric_sardina26.2 Facebook: Eric SardinaLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericsardina/ Affiliate: LMNT hydration drink mix: get a free sample pack with your first order by using this link: http://elementallabs.refr.cc/ericsardina
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In this episode, we look into Ketamine infusion therapy with our guest, Sam Mandel, the co-founder and CEO of Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles. With his strong dedication to mental health advocacy, Sam discusses Ketamine infusion therapy. This treatment method offers relief for a variety of mental health conditions, including depression, PTSD, anxiety, and suicidal tendencies. The conversation provides insights into how Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles sets itself apart with its treatment approach. They also discuss the function of ketamine and how it works within the human body to remedy mental health challenges. Subsequently, Sam elaborates on how patients engage with the process and the impressive success rate of the clinic. Finally, he provides valuable advice on seeking out reputable ketamine therapy clinics. You will get an insider's look into this innovative therapy that provides rapid, effective results with minimal side effects. 00:00 Introduction 00:16 Understanding Ketamine Infusion Therapy 01:34 Exploring Diverse Uses of Ketamine 03:54 The Actual Process and Care in Ketamine Infusion 03:33 Benefits and Duration of Ketamine Infusion Therapy 09:20 Features of an Ideal Candidate for Ketamine Infusion Therapy 24:24 Advice for Potential Therapy Seekers Support the Show Veteran Suicide & Crisis Line: Dial 988, then press 1 4Patriots - visit https://4Patriots.com/DriveOn to get the best discounts and deals on survival supplies! Links & Resources Website: https://ketamineclinics.com Follow Sam Mandel on Instagram: https://instagram.com/thesammandel Follow Sam Mandel on Twitter: https://twitter.com/thesammandel Follow Sam Mandel on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thesammandel/ Transcript View the transcript for this episode.
Join 6AMRun.com Ambassador and Host, Marc Paisant, as we welcome Ketamine Infusion Expert and Entrepreneur, Sam Mandel. Sam Mandel is a lifelong mental health advocate & entrepreneur. Sam cofounded Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles with his father, Dr. Steven L. Mandel, in 2014 and has grown the clinic to be one of the most successful and well-respected Ketamine Infusion Therapy clinics in the U.S. He serves as the company's Chief Executive Officer and is responsible for the day-to-day operations and strategic direction of KCLA, managing its growing staff of 16. He oversees all non-clinical functions, including patient satisfaction, human resources and employee retention, vendors, marketing, public relations, technology, compliance, legal, and finance. Sam also enjoys weightlifting, traveling, snowboarding, and spending time with his dog Banksy. Please visit: http://ketamineclinics.com/ to learn more. To be a guest, or share your story with the 6AM Run Community apply at: https://forms.gle/hBHCKpYKT6R9tH6m7 6AM Run believes in improving everyone's physical ability to not only have motion, but STAY IN MOTION. All this while creating an amazing supportive, surrounding community. Run Faster, Farther, & Recover For More Runs! Guest are found through podmatch.com and recorded through Riverside.fm. 6amrun.com #6amrunSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Coming up on today's show -My guest is Sam Mandel CEO of the ketamine clinic Los Angeles ,I'll be talking with Sam about the KCLA,S work and the pioneering treatments that have helped thousands of patients and led to an Amazing success rates By The KCLA So then (KCLA) is a world-renowned ketamine clinic specializing in intravenous (IV) infusions of ketamine for various mental health conditions such as depression, anxiety, PTSD, suicidality, and other mood disorders. Cofounded by Dr. Steven L. Mandel and as mentioned CEO Sam Mandel in 2014, KCLA emerged as one of the pioneering ketamine clinics in the United States. With a strong focus on reshaping and redefining mental health care, the Mandels have been at the forefront of utilizing Ketamine Infusion Therapy, delivering more than 25,000 infusions with an 83% success rate over ten years-The use of low doses of ketamine properly administered by a professional for mental health issues is having a massive impact on the huge problem facing societies mental health sufferers,My guest Sam Mandel is here today to discuss just how much the ketamine treatment that the KCLA administers how much that is helping those suffering and consequently is showing amazing results,I think I'll make this point also The ketamine is not an alternative to traditional allopathic medicine it is in fact a massive part of it -In addition all of its staff at the KCLA are uniquely qualified in their field of expertise and they definitely have a finger on the pulse of the latest innovations to help and treat those in need ,///My understanding having not talked with Sam yet is the use of low dose treatment of ketamine “could “ possibly alleviate The need for constant medication that maybe masking the actual cause of dis-ease by treating the symptoms only But I must be careful here throwing out guesses or assumptions as I'm not the expert .K.C.L.A Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles - Nation's Leading Providerhttps://www.amazon.co.uk/Ayelet-Waldman/e/B000APIXG8/ref=aufs_dp_mata_mblYou can find the simon Laurie king podcast on all the usual platforms as well as Facebook-universessim YouTube apple , buzz sprout etc If you enjoy the episode give it a like and subscribe also if you'd be so kind -Leave a comment below or Send the show an email- Theslkpodcast@gmail.com but either way please keep them kind .————————————————————All jingles artwork and logos are copyright and owned by the simon Laurie king podcast ©
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In this inspiring video, we dive into the transformative journey of Sam Mandel, a lifelong mental health advocate and successful entrepreneur. As the Co-founder and Chief Executive Officer of Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles (KCLA), Sam has played a pivotal role in establishing KCLA as one of the most respected and renowned Ketamine Infusion Therapy clinics in the U.S. With his father, Dr. Steven L. Mandel, Sam embarked on the mission of creating a safe haven for individuals seeking mental health solutions. Since its inception in 2014, KCLA has flourished under Sam's leadership, now boasting a team of 16 dedicated professionals. As the CEO, Sam oversees all non-clinical aspects of KCLA, including patient satisfaction, human resources, vendors, marketing, technology, and finance. His strategic direction has propelled the clinic's growth and success, while ensuring the highest standards of care and compliance. Beyond his professional endeavors, Sam enjoys various pursuits, such as weightlifting, traveling, snowboarding, and cherishing time spent with his beloved dog, Banksy. His vibrant personality and passion for life shine through both in and out of the clinic. Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles stands at the forefront of mental health innovation, offering Ketamine Therapy, Psychiatric Medication Management, and Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (TMS) with plans for further advancements. Accredited by Quad A, the clinic upholds the gold standard in safety, efficacy, and patient satisfaction. The exceptional clinical team at KCLA, including highly skilled professionals such as an Anesthesiologist with a master's degree in psychology, double and triple-board-certified psychiatrists, a physician assistant, a psychiatric mental health nurse practitioner, registered nurses, and administrative staff, collaborate in a state-of-the-art, 5,000-square-foot facility in Los Angeles, CA. At KCLA, accessibility is crucial. The clinic has joined forces with nine of California's largest health insurance plans to expand the reach of their life-changing services. Anyone seeking mental health support will find compassionate care and effective treatment within the welcoming walls of KCLA. Ready to learn more about ketamine therapy for mental health and wellness? Visit our website at http://ketamineclinics.com. Join us on this transformative journey and discover the incredible impact of ketamine therapy – a pathway to a brighter future. #ketaminetherapy #mentalhealthawareness #transformingmentalhealth #sammandel #inspiringstory #ketamine #mentalhealthtreatment #mentalwellness #hope #recoveryjourney #depression #anxiety #ptsd #addictionrecovery #mindfulness #selfcare #healingjourney #breakingstigma #endthestigma #suicideprevention #therapy #mentalhealth #therapy #mentalhealthmatters #breakthestigma #selfcare #mentalhealthawareness
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In this inspiring video, we dive into the transformative journey of Sam Mandel, a lifelong mental health advocate and successful entrepreneur. As the Co-founder and Chief Executive Officer of Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles (KCLA), Sam has played a pivotal role in establishing KCLA as one of the most respected and renowned Ketamine Infusion Therapy clinics in the U.S. With his father, Dr. Steven L. Mandel, Sam embarked on the mission of creating a safe haven for individuals seeking mental health solutions. Since its inception in 2014, KCLA has flourished under Sam's leadership, now boasting a team of 16 dedicated professionals. As the CEO, Sam oversees all non-clinical aspects of KCLA, including patient satisfaction, human resources, vendors, marketing, technology, and finance. His strategic direction has propelled the clinic's growth and success, while ensuring the highest standards of care and compliance. Beyond his professional endeavors, Sam enjoys various pursuits, such as weightlifting, traveling, snowboarding, and cherishing time spent with his beloved dog, Banksy. His vibrant personality and passion for life shine through both in and out of the clinic. Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles stands at the forefront of mental health innovation, offering Ketamine Therapy, Psychiatric Medication Management, and Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (TMS) with plans for further advancements. Accredited by Quad A, the clinic upholds the gold standard in safety, efficacy, and patient satisfaction. The exceptional clinical team at KCLA, including highly skilled professionals such as an Anesthesiologist with a master's degree in psychology, double and triple-board-certified psychiatrists, a physician assistant, a psychiatric mental health nurse practitioner, registered nurses, and administrative staff, collaborate in a state-of-the-art, 5,000-square-foot facility in Los Angeles, CA. At KCLA, accessibility is crucial. The clinic has joined forces with nine of California's largest health insurance plans to expand the reach of their life-changing services. Anyone seeking mental health support will find compassionate care and effective treatment within the welcoming walls of KCLA. Ready to learn more about ketamine therapy for mental health and wellness? Visit our website at http://ketamineclinics.com. Join us on this transformative journey and discover the incredible impact of ketamine therapy – a pathway to a brighter future. #ketaminetherapy #mentalhealthawareness #transformingmentalhealth #sammandel #inspiringstory #ketamine #mentalhealthtreatment #mentalwellness #hope #recoveryjourney #depression #anxiety #ptsd #addictionrecovery #mindfulness #selfcare #healingjourney #breakingstigma #endthestigma #suicideprevention #therapy #mentalhealth #therapy #mentalhealthmatters #breakthestigma #selfcare #mentalhealthawareness
We're joined by Sam Mandel, CEO and Co-founder of Ketamine Clinics of Los Angeles, for a thought-provoking discussion that aims to clear the air around some widespread misconceptions surrounding the tragic passing of Matthew Perry.Ketamine therapy often falls victim to myths and misconceptions, particularly in the wake of high-profile cases like Perry's. @thesammandel offers insightful perspectives on how ketamine, when used responsibly and under professional supervision, can be a beneficial therapeutic tool.Make sure to check out this very informative conversation. You don't want to miss it.Listen to the full episode here:https://tr.ee/wzRmfsMtDcTakeawaysKetamine infusion therapy is a safe and effective treatment for mental health conditions and chronic pain.Misconceptions about Matthew Perry's death should not deter individuals from considering ketamine therapy.Harm reduction and patient advocacy are crucial in navigating the healthcare system.Personal experiences and research should guide decisions about treatment options.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Tribute to Matthew Perry00:58 Discussion of Ketamine Infusion Therapy03:44 Debunking Misconceptions about Matthew Perry's Death07:32 Safety and Effectiveness of Ketamine Infusion Therapy14:18 Importance of Harm Reduction and Patient Advocacy20:33 Personal Experience and Confidence in Ketamine Clinic23:11 Closing Remarks and Invitation
On the first What The Func?! episode of season 5, Laura and Clayton chat with Sam Mandel, CEO of Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles. They discuss the mental health benefits of Ketamine Infusion Therapy and why it's developed into a treatment option for individuals with treatment-resistant depression, anxiety, PTSD, suicidality, and other mood disorders. On What The Health?!: New Year's Resolutions? Let's see the stats. Code FUNC15 for 15% off organic mattresses and bedding at https://www.naturepedic.com. Code FUNC15 for 15% off your first order of the Adapt Naturals Core Plus bundle at https://adaptnaturals.com/FUNC15 Learn more about Functional Medicine Health Coaching at Functional Medicine Coaching Academy
Embark on a journey into the heart of psychedelic medicine with us, where the transformative effects of ketamine are revealed as a beacon of hope.Joined by mental health advocate, CEO, and entrepreneur Sam Mandel of Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles, we unravel the intricate web of traditional mental health care and its limitations.Together, we illuminate the contrast of societal norms that celebrate certain substances while vilifying others and champion the nuanced understanding of substance use in our quest for wellness.Our conversation delves into the awe-inspiring potential of psychedelics like ketamine in clinical settings, once relegated to the fringes of recreation and spirituality, now at the forefront of treating afflictions such as chronic pain, depression, and PTSD.We share candid stories of personal encounters with the shortcomings of Western medicine and the profound relief alternative treatments offer. Sam's passionate narrative, spurred by the mental health struggles of those close to him, underscores the urgency of exploring these promising avenues for healing.Closing on a note of optimism and hope, we spotlight the treatment options that bring together unconventional paths to wellness. As we highlight the full spectrum of ketamine therapy's potential, including its non-addictive nature and the importance of a holistic health strategy, we invite you to join the conversation, share your narratives, and support one another in the unwavering pursuit of hope and healing through these groundbreaking therapies.(0:00:04) - Exploring Psychedelics for Healing Chronic Pain(0:04:26) - Psychedelics and Stigma Surrounding Drug Use(0:09:33) - Exploring the Benefits of Ketamine Treatment(0:15:50) - Psychedelics and Ketamine(0:25:22) - Hope and Healing Through Ketamine Therapy Website: https://ketamineclinics.comInstagram: @thesammandelTwitter: @thesammandelLinkedIn: @thesammandelWebsite: ketamineclinics.comTikTok: @thesammandel>> LISTEN here --> https://linktr.ee/thepaingamepodcast
Det här ett återpublicerat och reklamfritt samtal som spelades in 2019.Dr. Steven L Mandel grundade Ketamine Clinics, i Los Angeles 2014, tillsammans med sin son Sam Mandel, COO. Majoriteten av deras patienter lider av depression, PTSD eller kronisk smärta. De säger att över 80% av deras patienter med depression mår bättre inom bara några dagar. Ibland även inom några timmar. Följ far och sons arbete här: https://www.ketamineclinics.comHär hittar du alla samtal från Hur kan vi?Utforska Hurkanvipedia för att lära dig mer Stötta Hur kan vi? 3.0 genom att bli månadsgivare härBoka oss till ditt team, ledningsgrupp eller företag Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Dive into the transformative power of ketamine therapy with Sam Mandel, CEO of Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles (KCLA). Explore its history, off-label use, and broader issues in the U.S. healthcare system. Uncover the neurochemical and experiential aspects of ketamine treatment, its effectiveness for chronic pain, and success stories in mental health. Gain insights into ketamine therapy's potential for addressing substance abuse. Don't miss this eye-opening podcast episode with a mental health advocate and entrepreneur. 00:00 - Introduction to the power of ketamine infusions 04:48 - Frustration with traditional depression treatment and ketamine as an alternative 09:02 - History, challenges, and off-label use of ketamine in mental health 14:58 - U.S. healthcare system issues, FDA approval of ketamine nasal spray, and limitations 20:04 - Ketamine's addictive nature, clinic success rates, and treatment factors 25:16 - Delayed response, challenges in progress recognition, and mindset in depression 30:54 - Neurochemical and experiential aspects of ketamine treatment 35:00 - Ketamine as a pain reliever and effectiveness for True CRPS 38:00 - Addressing concerns about the psychedelic experience and ensuring patient safety 45:00 - Success stories and transformative impact on mental health 50:00 - Benefits of ketamine therapy in a clinical setting for substance abuse Welcome to "A² The Show" – your ticket to the human mind's wild rollercoaster! We're a crew of pals from Lebanon, now globally scattered, who combat homesickness with friendship, gaming, fiery chats, and a sprinkle of controversy. Our podcast is more than just words; it's a fun-fueled rebellion against the everyday, and a beacon in the mental health fog. With a diverse lineup of guests who've braved the depths of the human psyche, we're here to inspire resilience, provoke thought, and tickle your funny bone. So strap in for a journey through the human mind's crazy maze. It's like your favorite videogame, but the cheat codes are science, empathy, and a dash of madness. Dive into "A² The Show" – your unforgettable adventure starts here! Ride the digital waves with us on social media: @a2theshow Ali "The Professor" Haajl @alitheprofessor alitheprofessor.com Saeed El Jammal @saeedjay97 Mohamed Owydat @mowydat Abbas Jawhar @abbasjawhar3 Ameer Asmar @cold_and_flew Sherif Seif El Nasr --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/a2theshow/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/a2theshow/support
In this episode of the Label Free Podcast, host Deanna Radulescu interviews Sam Mandel, co-founder and CEO of Ketamine Clinics in Los Angeles. Sam shares his personal journey and passion for mental health advocacy, stemming from his own experiences with friends and family members who have struggled with mental health issues and addiction. He explains that ketamine, an FDA-approved anesthetic, is also an effective treatment for depression, PTSD, anxiety, and chronic pain. Sam emphasizes that ketamine treatment has a success rate of 83% and works much faster than conventional antidepressant medications. He also discusses the misconceptions surrounding ketamine and the challenges of raising awareness due to the lack of pharmaceutical marketing. Sam highlights the holistic approach of ketamine treatment, which promotes healing and enhances brain function without the long-term side effects of traditional medications. He also mentions the clinic's expansion to offer psychiatric med management and transcranial magnetic stimulation (TMS) as additional treatment options. Despite the stigma surrounding mental health, Sam encourages listeners to seek help and reminds them that there is always hope. To learn more head to the link ⬇️:https://ketamineclinics.com/https://www.sammandel.com/This episode is brought to you by Supapass: For 10 years we've enabled entrepreneurs & content makers to afford the type of technology that previously only big tech platforms like Netflix or Spotify could provide to audiences ...on your own website and app!No coding, tech or design expertise needed. We empower you to keep 100% of your money, share your content on the best technology, and own the relationship with your customers.Grow your business, without it costing the earth. Use the code: LFG20 for 20% off at the link ⬇️:https://www.supapass.comAs always thank you for the support, to contact me directly follow the link below:https://www.labelfreepodcast.com Stay Healthy, Stay Ready- Deanna Marie Radulescu#podcastguest #labelfreepodcast #supapass
In this episode of the Label Free Podcast, host Deanna Radulescu interviews Sam Mandel, co-founder and CEO of Ketamine Clinics in Los Angeles. Sam shares his personal journey and passion for mental health advocacy, stemming from his own experiences with friends and family members who have struggled with mental health issues and addiction. He explains that ketamine, an FDA-approved anesthetic, is also an effective treatment for depression, PTSD, anxiety, and chronic pain. Sam emphasizes that ketamine treatment has a success rate of 83% and works much faster than conventional antidepressant medications. He also discusses the misconceptions surrounding ketamine and the challenges of raising awareness due to the lack of pharmaceutical marketing. Sam highlights the holistic approach of ketamine treatment, which promotes healing and enhances brain function without the long-term side effects of traditional medications. He also mentions the clinic's expansion to offer psychiatric med management and transcranial magnetic stimulation (TMS) as additional treatment options. Despite the stigma surrounding mental health, Sam encourages listeners to seek help and reminds them that there is always hope. To learn more head to the link ⬇️:https://ketamineclinics.com/https://www.sammandel.com/This episode is brought to you by Supapass: For 10 years we've enabled entrepreneurs & content makers to afford the type of technology that previously only big tech platforms like Netflix or Spotify could provide to audiences ...on your own website and app!No coding, tech or design expertise needed. We empower you to keep 100% of your money, share your content on the best technology, and own the relationship with your customers.Grow your business, without it costing the earth. Use the code: LFG20 for 20% off at the link ⬇️:https://www.supapass.comAs always thank you for the support, to contact me directly follow the link below:https://www.labelfreepodcast.com Stay Healthy, Stay Ready- Deanna Marie Radulescu#podcastguest #labelfreepodcast #supapass
In this episode of the Wise Decision Maker Show, Dr. Gleb Tsipursky speaks to Sam Mandel, CEO and Cofounder of Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles, who shares why the future is bright for ketamine improving mental health.You can learn about Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles at https://ketamineclinics.com/
Ketamine, once known as an anesthetic and recreational drug, has evolved into a revolutionary mental health treatment. With a complex mechanism of action on the brain's NMDA receptors, ketamine shows promise in addressing conditions like Treatment-Resistant Depression (TRD), PTSD, and chronic pain. Administered in clinical settings, its rapid efficacy contrasts with the gradual effects of SSRIs. The unique "psychedelic" experience it induces sets it apart, making it a beacon of hope for those seeking alternatives beyond conventional treatments. https://ketamineclinics.com/ https://www.instagram.com/thesammandel/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cupofnurses/ Website: https://fanlink.to/CONsite Shop: https://fanlink.to/CONshop Free Travel Nursing Guide: https://fanlink.to/Travelnursingchecklist Nclex Guide: https://fanlink.to/NCLEXguide Interested in Travel Nursing? https://fanlink.to/TravelNurseNow Cup of Nurses FB Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/cupofnurses YT: https://www.youtube.com/@CUPOFNURSES
Sam Mandel, CEO and Co-Founder of Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles, Expert in Ketamine Infusions, Mental Health Psychedelic Medicine Ketamineclinics.com Here are some key points from the podcast conversation between Chris Voss of The Chris Voss Show Podcast and Sam Mandel: Ketamine infusion therapy involves receiving low, sub-anesthetic doses of ketamine intravenously in a clinical setting. It is used to treat depression, PTSD, anxiety, and other mental health conditions. Ketamine works very quickly, with many people experiencing relief after just 2-3 infusions within the first week. This is much faster than conventional antidepressants like SSRIs which can take 4-6 weeks to start working. Ketamine has an 83% success rate for treating depression and mental health issues, even in treatment-resistant cases that have not responded to other medications and therapies. The effects of ketamine last for months at a time, unlike medications that need to be taken daily. There are also no major long-term side effects. Ketamine works through different mechanisms than conventional antidepressants. It stimulates regrowth of neural connections and pathways in the brain. It also induces a psychedelic state that allows revisiting trauma and gaining new perspectives on issues. Proper ketamine treatment involves intravenous administration in a clinical setting under supervision of medical professionals, not taking lozenges or sprays at home which the FDA has warned against. Ketamine clinics provide comprehensive mental healthcare including therapy, psychiatry, transcranial magnetic stimulation in addition to ketamine infusion therapy. Ketamine treatment costs around $3900 for a complete series of 6 infusions. Some insurance plans may cover parts of the treatment. Biography About Sam Mandel Sam Mandel is a lifelong mental health advocate & entrepreneur. Sam cofounded Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles with his father, Dr. Steven L. Mandel, in 2014 and has grown the clinic to be one of the most successful and well-respected Ketamine Infusion Therapy clinics in the U.S. He serves as the company's Chief Executive Officer and is responsible for the day-to-day operations and strategic direction of KCLA, managing its growing staff of 16. He oversees all non-clinical functions, including patient satisfaction, human resources and employee retention, vendors, marketing, public relations, technology, compliance, legal, and finance. Sam also enjoys weightlifting, traveling, snowboarding, and spending time with his dog Banksy.
Sam Mandel is a lifelong mental health advocate & entrepreneur. Sam cofounded Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles with his father, Dr. Steven L. Mandel, in 2014 and has grown the clinic to be one of the most successful and well-respected Ketamine Infusion Therapy clinics in the U.S. He serves as the company's Chief Executive Officer and is responsible for the day-to-day operations and strategic direction of KCLA, managing its growing staff of 16. He oversees all non-clinical functions, including patient satisfaction, human resources and employee retention, vendors, marketing, public relations, technology, compliance, legal, and finance. Sam also enjoys weightlifting, traveling, snowboarding, and spending time with his dog Banksy.About Ketamine Clinics Los AngelesKetamine Clinics Los Angeles is a world-renowned mental health center and leading provider of Ketamine Infusion Therapy. Cofounded by Dr. Steven L. Mandel and CEO Sam Mandel in 2014, KCLA was one of the first ketamine clinics to open in the United States. KCLA is the first and only ketamine clinic accredited by Quad A, upholding the gold standard in safety, efficacy, and patient satisfaction. Services include Ketamine Therapy, Psychiatric Medication Management, and Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (TMS), with plans for further advancements soon. KCLA has contracted with nine of California's largest health insurance plans to expand access to their services.The clinical team at KCLA comprises an exceptional group of highly skilled professionals regarded as leaders in their field. The team includes one Anesthesiologist with a master's degree in psychology, two psychiatrists (double and triple-board-certified), one physician assistant, one psychiatric mental health nurse practitioner, four registered nurses, and six administrative staff. All teammates collaborate in KCLA's state-of-the-art, 5,000-square-foot facility in Los Angeles, CA.www.ketamineclinics.com
https://www.paypal.me/Truelifepodcast?locale.x=en_USIntroducing Sam Mandel, a force of compassion and innovation in the realm of mental health care. As the Co-founder and Chief Executive Officer of Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles (KCLA), Sam's journey is one of profound dedication to healing. From the early days of volunteering at a teen-to-teen suicide prevention hotline to managing one of the world's foremost Ketamine Infusion Therapy clinics, Sam has channeled his lifelong advocacy into transforming lives.In his role, he orchestrates the symphony of operations that make KCLA a beacon of success and ethical care. From nurturing patient satisfaction to pioneering cutting-edge technologies, Sam is a relentless advocate for best practices in mental health.Join us as we delve into the mind and heart of Sam Mandel, a mental health advocate, entrepreneur, actor, and rapper who's changing the way we approach mental health care and giving voice to the underserved. Welcome to a journey of compassion and transformation.https://ketamineclinics.com/sam-mandel-ceo/ https://www.paypal.me/Truelifepodcast?locale.x=en_US
I had the great pleasure of meeting with Dr. Steven L. Mandel, Founder & President, and Sam Mandel, Cofounder & Chief Operating Officer of Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles. We got into many great discussions on the policies and procedures of their ketamine clinic. Discussions on many of the mental health and substance abuse-related benefits of ketamine-assisted therapy. It was a tremendous honor and learning experience having these gentlemen on my show! Dr. Steven Mandel is an internationally-recognized expert & pioneer in the use of ketamine infusion therapy to treat mental health disorders & chronic pain. Dr. Mandel has more than 40 years of experience utilizing ketamine as a board-certified anesthesiologist. He also earned his master's degree in psychology. He is the founder & president of Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles, a leading ketamine infusion therapy clinic in Southern California. Dr. Mandel is also the founder and first president of ASKP. Sam Mandel is a lifelong mental health advocate & entrepreneur. Mandel started Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles with his father, Dr. Steven Mandel, in 2014 and has grown the clinic to be one of the most successful and well-respected ketamine infusion therapy clinics in the US. Mandel is responsible for the day-to-day operations of KCLA and manages its staff of 15. He oversees all non-clinical functions, including patient satisfaction, vendors, marketing, technology, development, & finance. When not in the clinic, Mandel enjoys weightlifting, snowboarding, traveling, and spending time in nature. Contact Information ketamineclinics.com Social media: @ketamineclinicsla on Tik Tok, Instagram, and Facebook @ketamineclinics on Twitter Host Jacob Minnig's contact information https://behavioralhealthintegration.org/ behavioralhealthintegration121@gmail.com BHI Sponsor calmigo.com?fid=614&utm_source=affiliatly&utm_medium=influencer&utm_campaign=Jacob_Minnig-614&utm_content=facebook-ig&utm_term=BHIPODCAST&source=affiliatly&placement=facebook-ig&medium=influencer&aff_id=614&aff_name=Jacob_Minnig&coupon_code=BHIPODCAST
Ketamine is sometimes overlooked in conversations about psychedelics and mental health. Overlooked no more, this conversation with father-son duo Dr. Steven Mandel and Sam Mandel of the Ketamine Clinics of Los Angeles focuses on the many potential uses of ketamine to alleviate mental suffering. We explore why ketamine is potentially underutilized in mental health and examine barriers to access that affect its use. Intro (0:00 – 1:37) Their Background (1:38 – 3:45) The Scope of Their Clinics (3:46 – 5:31) From Anesthesiology to Ketamine (5:32 – 8:59) In The Underground (9:00 – 12:32) Best Practice of Ketamine Treatment (12:33 – 17:03) How Ketamine is Delivered to the Patient (17:04 – 21:58) No Talk Therapy (21:59 – 25:23) Best Practices 2.0 (25:24 – 28:29) The Role of Dissociation (28:30 – 35:56) Ketamine's Usefulness Against Suicidality (35:57 – 41:05) Final Thoughts (41:06 – 44:18) End (44:19 – 45:59) About the guests: https://ketamineclinics.com/about-us/
Doctors treating depression see promise in #ketamine, a cheap drug already approved for anesthesia. Some say it is the only legal #psychedelic. Steven L. Mandel, M.D., is an internationally recognized expert and pioneer in the use of ketamine infusion therapy to treat mental health disorders and chronic pain. Dr. Mandel has more than 40 years of experience utilizing ketamine as a board-certified anesthesiologist. He also earned his master's degree in psychology. He is the founder and president of Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles, a leading ketamine infusion therapy clinic in Southern California: https://ketamineclinics.com/ Sam Mandel is co-founder and chief operating officer of Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles, a leading provider of ketamine infusion therapy for the treatment of mental health disorders and chronic pain conditions. Brain Health with Dr. Nissen brings you advancements in medicine, #neuroscience, psychiatry, and #nutrition to help you live a better life. Dr. Nissen's expert interviews reveal new, evidence-based approaches to enhancing mental health, sharpening cognition, and optimizing performance. With topics such as #Alzheimer's disease, #neuromodulation, #depression, the Mediterranean #Diet, and #psychedelics, this show is sure to expose listeners to new topics on the frontiers of medicine and neuroscience. Join our community at DrNissen.com Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/drnissen Subscribe to the podcast at https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/brain-health-with-dr-nissen/id1510757864 Dr. Nissen is a medical doctor (M.D.) and therapist. This show is intended for entertainment and educational purposes only and does not substitute personalized medical advice. Please speak with your doctor before attempting any medical or major diet and lifestyle changes. Check out Dr. Nissen's new children's book on empathy and emotional intelligence, Emily Empathy! http://bit.ly/emilyempathy #depression #mentalhealth #wellness #health #healthylifestyle #medicine #treatment #medical #healthcare #psychotherapy #psychedelics #psychedelictherapy
We've talked about therapy, we've talked about antidepressants... but today we're talking about a totally different type of treatment for depression: Ketamine.When I say that, you might think, WOAH, that's an anesthetic. Or, that's a party drug. But here's how it relates to mental health - there are now places you can go, doctors you can go to, to get a Ketamine infusion for your depression.And this is fascinaing to me. Because I am all for anything that can be proven to help people's brains. Ketamine - because of its use as an anesthetic, is legal for medicinal use. And has been since the 1960s.My guests today are Dr. Steven Mandel and Sam Mandel, the founders of Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles!Dr. Mandel has been using Ketamine to treat patients for over 40 years, as a board-certified anesthesiologist. He's also a founder of the American Society of Ketamine Physicians, Psychotherapists, and Practitioners. Sam Mandel is his son, and the Chief Operating Officer of Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles. They opened the clinic together 7 years, ago, and since then, have administered over 8 thousand treatments.I loved talking to them about what Ketamine infusions entail, how it actually works on the brain, and how it has helped many of their patients feel SO much better.You can keep up with Mentally Together on Instagram @mentallytogetherpod. Cassidy's Instagram is @cassidyquinntv, and you can watch the video version of each podcast episode at YouTube.com/cassidyquinn.Books recommended by Mentally Together guests: https://bookshop.org/lists/mentally-togetherMentally Together is a creation from Cassidy Quinn in collaboration with Coba.fm.Zoom+Care ZoomCare offers same-day doctor visits—that you can book online or from their app. Instacart - Groceries delivered in as little as 1 hour. Free delivery on your first order over $35.Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Support the show
PSY FIUNRAVELING THE MYSTERIES OF PSYCHEDELIC SCIENCEWe take an evidence-based exploration into the world of psychedelic medicine with leading researchers, clinicians and industry experts. Dr. Steven MandelFounder & President, Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles Dr. Steven Mandel is an internationally-recognized expert & pioneer in the use of ketamine infusion therapy to treat mental health disorders & chronic pain. Dr. Mandel has more than 40 years of experience utilizing ketamine as a board-certified anesthesiologist. He also earned his master's degree in psychology. He is the founder & president of Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles, a leading ketamine infusion therapy clinic in Southern California. Dr. Mandel is also founder and first president of ASKP. Sam MandelCofounder & Chief Operating Officer, Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles Sam Mandel is a lifelong mental health advocate & entrepreneur. Mandel started Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles with his father, Dr. Steven Mandel, in 2014 and has grown the clinic to be one of the most successful and well-respected ketamine infusion therapy clinics in the US. Mandel is responsible for the day-to-day operations of KCLA and manages its staff of 10. He oversees all non-clinical functions, including patient satisfaction, vendors, marketing, technology, development, & finance. LINKS:https://ketamineclinics.com/ (https://ketamineclinics.com/) TIMESTAMPS:1:18: Ketamine is not new — supported War Vets in the 70s. 6:35 Among the first Physicians to apply Ketamine with patients. 6:53 In 2014 Many people considered it very experimental. 8:04 3 Different populations of patients. 9:10 Mental health benefits of Ketamine at anesthetic doses. 12:14 Spearheading the movement of using chemicals to promote better mental health. 15:10 Why is Ketamine so effective, so quickly? 17:05 Ketamine works on chemical level and experiential level. 23:50 Evidence-based approach. 28:42 Ketamine vs. Traditional treatment efficacy. 32:30 Ketamine is no longer a last resort. 34:49 Ketamine has no long-term side effects. Quality of Relief. 39:23 Ketamine is an activator rather than a depressant. 42:52 Working with my son. 45:05 Working with my father. 50:37 What about the 17% who don't experience benefits? 55:15 Is Ketamine frequently abused or addictive? 59:44 The largest cause of disability globally? Depression. 1:03:45 Ketamine is the fastest acting, safest, most effective anti-depressant. 1:04:34 Ketamine saves lives.
A hot topic in the world of psychedelic medicine is whether ketamine infusion therapy is as effective as ketamine-assisted therapy (also called KAP). Today's guests Dr. Steven Mandel and his son Sam Mandel have administered over 13,000 treatments at their Los Angeles-based clinic and they are passionate about the power of intravenous ketamine treatment. On the show we discuss the efficacy of IV ketamine therapy and how it compares to intramuscular as a route of administration. We talk about Dr. Mandel's specific protocol including the use of a pump instead of a drip bag for administration. We cover the potential health concerns around ketamine and finish as always with advice to psychedelic therapists. Dr. Steven Mandel has more than 40 years of experience utilizing ketamine as a board-certified anesthesiologist and has a master's degree in psychology. He is the co-founder and president of Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles, and the co-founder of American Society of Ketamine Physicians, Psychotherapists and Practitioners. Sam Mandel is co-founder and chief operating officer of Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles. A mental health advocate and entrepreneur, he oversees all non-clinical functions of the company and has been active in the ketamine infusion therapy community since its formative days. LINKS Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles American Society of Ketamine of Physicians, Psychotherapists & Practitioners TIMESTAMPS :05 - How Dr. Mendel and his son Sam started the Ketamine Clinics of Los Angeles :09 - Should psychedelic practitioners receive the treatment themselves? :16 - How ketamine functions in the brain :23 - Is ketamine infusion therapy as effective as psychedelic-assisted talk therapy? :32 - Intervenus vs Intramuscular ketamine :39 - Dr. Mandel's ketamine protocol :46 - How do you assess the effectiveness of ketamine therapy? :54 - Potential issues with ketamine use: addiction, bladder damage, or cognitive impairment. 1:08 - Dr. Steven and Sam Mandel share their advice
Dr. Steven Mandel, Founder and President of Ketamine Clinics of Los Angelas, returns to the show, with Sam Mandel, Clinic Director. Dr. Mandel is a pioneer in the use of Ketamine to treat Depression, Suicidality, PTSD, and other psychological disorders. As a returning guest, he updates us on what has changed in the research and use of Ketamine over the past year, and we talk about the health impact that depression and suicide have in our society in general, and in the time of the COVID19 Pandemic. Become a patron of the show at www.patreon.com/brokenbrain, or give a one time tip at www.buymeacoffee.com/brokenbrain
The How can we? podcast is available at Radio Play, Spotify, Itunes, Acast and www.howcanwepodcast.com. Dr Steven L Mandel founded Ketamine Clinics in Los Angeles 2014 together with his son Sam Mandel, COO. The main part of their patients suffers from depression, PTSD or chronic pain. They say that over 80 % of their patients with depression gets better within hours or days after treatment. Navid spoke to both of them to hear more about their work. Learn more: https://www.ketamineclinics.com Follow Navid: Instagram: @navidmodiriofficial Twitter: @modiri_navid