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What if the quality your team calls "intimidating" is the same thing responsible for every result you've ever produced? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill tackle three listener questions about the uncomfortable truths of firm leadership: what to do when anonymous feedback calls you intimidating, how to stop letting partner consensus paralyze decisions, and why the partner who drives accountability always ends up labeled the villain. This conversation draws a clear line between high standards and bad behavior, and shows why getting to the truth matters more than being popular. Here's what you'll learn: Why seeking 100% partner consensus on every strategic decision is quietly stalling your firm's growth How to hold exceedingly high standards and still create a culture where your team tells you the truth What "disagree and commit" looks like in practice, and why it builds more trust than endless debate If your firm's best ideas keep dying in committee and your team's real feedback never reaches you, this episode explains exactly why. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:01:52) The World Cup and Being a Fan (00:05:51) Maturity Is Recovery Time (00:09:59) Q1: My Team Calls Me Intimidating (00:12:26) High Standards and Kindness Coexist (00:14:28) Not All Feedback Deserves Action (00:16:11) Q2: My Leaders Resent My Decision (00:17:31) Why Full Consensus Stalls Growth (00:20:49) Disagree But Commit (00:21:34) Q3: I'm the "Bad Guy" Partner (00:24:35) You Don't Have to Be Loved (00:26:08) Wrap Up Links & Resources: Radical Candor by Kim Scott FIFA World Cup 2026 Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 456. AMMA - Why It's Your Fault If Your Team Isn't Performing 375. AMMA - Stop Being The Bottleneck: Lead Your Firm Without Being Needed 284. AMMA - Elevate Your Leadership with Emotional Intelligence

What if the thing separating high performers from everyone else has nothing to do with skill? In this encore episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill revisits his conversation with Rich Diviney, retired Navy SEAL Commander and bestselling author of The Attributes: 25 Hidden Drivers of Optimal Performance. Rich reveals why the innate qualities that define how we show up under stress, challenge, and uncertainty are far more predictive of success than any resume credential or technical ability, and what that means for leaders building teams in high-stakes environments. Here's what you'll learn: Why the attributes that drive performance under uncertainty can't be taught the same way skills can, and how to develop them anyway How to identify what separates someone who thrives under pressure from someone who folds, long before the pressure arrives What the five categories of attributes (grit, drive, mental acuity, leadership, and team ability) reveal about your own performance profile and the teams you build If you've ever wondered what it actually takes to build a team that performs when things don't go as planned, this conversation is your blueprint. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:02:17) Rich's Navy SEAL Journey (00:06:26) Attributes vs. Skills (00:10:02) The Five Categories of Attributes (00:13:02) Commonalities Among Top Performers (00:14:37) How to Develop Attributes (00:16:10) Creating Environments That Bring Out the Best (00:19:54) The Neuroscience of Courage (00:26:59) Peak Performance vs. Optimal Performance (00:29:17) Understanding Narcissism as an Attribute (00:32:33) Insouciance and Marching to Your Own Beat (00:36:48) How to Use Your Assessment Results (00:38:52) Real-World Success Stories (00:40:12) What Being a Game Changer Means Links & Resources: The Attributes: 25 Hidden Drivers of Optimal Performance by Rich Diviney The Attributes Huberman Lab Podcast Navy SEAL Training Purdue University Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 471. How Core Values Affect Leadership, Culture, and Fulfillment with Robert Glazer 366. How to Transform Your Business with Military Precision and Strategy with John Berry 62. John Maxwell - Leadership is a Verb, Not a Noun

Get Fit Over 40 with Peter Iacavazzi Afightingchanceprogram.com 40fitness.com Iacavazzi.com About the Guest(s): Peter Iacavazzi is a renowned two-time Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu World Champion, elite performance coach, entrepreneur, and nationally recognized instructor. Raised in Princeton, New Jersey, Peter grew up in a family where excellence was the norm, with his father being a notable NFL athlete. He became a leading figure in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and is now dedicated to helping others build strength, resilience, and purpose. Peter is the force behind 40 Fitness and A Fighting Chance programs, which aim to inspire personal growth and self-defense awareness. Episode Summary: In this engaging episode of The Chris Voss Show, host Chris Voss dives deep into a conversation with Peter Iacavazzi, a distinguished Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu World Champion and elite performance coach. Specializing in helping individuals over 40 achieve their fitness goals, Peter discusses the inception and principles behind his initiatives, 40 Fitness and A Fighting Chance. This episode is filled with insights into how individuals, especially those in their middle ages, can reclaim their physical prowess and mental clarity by adopting disciplined workout regimens and strategies that combat challenges related to aging and lifestyle changes. Throughout the discussion, the focus is placed on transformative lifestyle approaches through tailored fitness programs and the importance of mental discipline. Peter elaborates on the critical role of self-defense for women, emphasizing his highly specialized program, A Fighting Chance, designed to empower women with essential skills. The insight that sets this episode apart is Peter’s unique perspective on combining elite training philosophies used by military operators for everyday individuals, effectively bridging the gap between rigorous athleticism and practical, everyday fitness needs. Listeners can expect to gain knowledge on fitness techniques, the significance of nutrition and hormone check-ups, and motivational anecdotes from Peter’s journey in sports and coaching. Key Takeaways: Fitness Programs for 40+: Peter’s 40 Fitness initiative is precisely crafted for individuals over 40 who seek to look, feel, and perform better through personalized training plans. Women’s Self-Defense: “A Fighting Chance” offers vital self-defense strategies tailored to help women protect themselves in dangerous situations. Discipline Over Motivation: Success in fitness is less about short-term motivation and more about cultivating long-lasting discipline. Holistic Health Approach: Emphasizing the importance of nutrition and hormone balance, Peter highlights how testosterone replacement therapy can aid those over 40. Transformative Coaching: Unique coaching that applies high-level athletic training principles to everyday fitness challenges helps break barriers and overcome personal health plateaus. Notable Quotes: “The goal is not to compete against other people. It’s to compete against yourself.” “Motivation shows up at the gym on January 1st. Discipline shows up on February 1st.” “What if we tailored [elite military training] down for the 45-year-old soccer mom?” “If I could spend my whole life teaching that and I can save one woman’s life, then I will have lived a life worth living.” “We’re trying to make the world a better place by making you a better person in it.”

Keith welcomes back Todd Drowlette, star of A&E's The Real Estate Commission, to help demystify commercial real estate for residential investors.  They explore which sectors are most resilient to disruption from AI, automation, and Amazon, why certain office and warehouse assets still work, and how service-based retail like nail salons and quick-service restaurants can offer durable returns.  Todd breaks down the basics and advantages of triple net (NNN) leases, key considerations in office-to-residential conversions, and how rising interest rates are reshaping commercial deals.  He also shares negotiation tactics from large commercial transactions that investors can immediately apply to their next rental property purchase. 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You sure can at Ridge Lending Group NMLS 42056 They provided GRE listeners with more loans than anyone because Ridge specializes in investment property. They'll help you build a long-term plan for growing your real estate empire with leverage. Start your prequal and even chat directly with President Caeli Ridge. While it's on your mind, start at ridgelendinggroup.com. That's ridgelendinggroup.com.   Speaker 1  2:19   You're listening to the show that has created more financial freedom than nearly any show in the world. This is Get Rich Education.   Keith Weinhold  2:35   Welcome to GRE from Peoria, Illinois to Peoria, Arizona, and across 188 world nations. I'm Keith Weinhold, and you're listening to Get Rich Education. Though we're a show centered on how to build wealth through residential real estate investing, today we're talking mostly about the commercial side with a guest that's more comfortable investing in commercial real estate than he is residential. We'll learn why. He is the star of the new real estate show called the Real Estate Commission that airs on A&E Network. Todd Drowlette, because he was here with us last year shortly before the show debuted, and he had so many interesting things to tell us then. That's why he's back. Now we know that residential real estate is positioned well at surviving the boom in artificial intelligence's influence because everybody still needs a place to live. You can't download a kitchen or living room, and a chatbot can't replace a roof. But some types of commercial real estate are vulnerable to AI. I'm going to ask Todd which types and businesses are the most resilient to survive AI, robots, and Amazon, because there surely are some. He does a good job of making commercial real estate approachable to those that have never invested in it before.   Keith Weinhold  3:59   Contrary to the narrative, he also likes to talk about why office real estate is not dead. Occupying both worlds, I will ask him about office to residential conversions and also get his take on what is happening with commercial loans because apartment investors have been feeling the pain ever since mortgage rates doubled and nearly tripled in 2022. I'll ask about commercial loans blowing up and just how much more of that is expected to happen because the pain is certainly not over there. Let's meet this week's guest. A series on A and E Television and streaming launched last year called The Real Estate Commission, and it's going well enough that it's gearing up for season two. The star of that show is with us today. He was with us last year just before the show debuted, and that's when he shared all kinds of interesting insights with us, like why. A gas station is on a certain side of the road. He's perhaps the most prolific commercial real estate broker in the nation. He's managing director at Titan Commercial Realty Group in New York, closing deals totaling over $2 billion all across commercial real estate sectors. He's represented everyone from local startups to national reits. Hey, welcome back to Get Rich Education, Todd Drowlette.   Todd Drowlette  5:26   Thank you so much for having me back. I appreciate it. It's always great to talk to you.   Keith Weinhold  5:30   Yeah, same. It was so interesting when you were here last year, and I do want to ask you about how it's going with the A and E show later. Most of our listeners own single family rentals or small multifamily, and I think the commercial side, Todd. Frankly, it it intimidates some people. I know I've thought of it that way before. What are some of the misconceptions that the residential side seems to have about the commercial side?   Todd Drowlette  5:56   So a big misconception is that you have to be smart to do it. You certainly do not. A lot of people also think you have to already be a multimillionaire to do it, right? So the same way with residential, there's levels to it. There's levels to commercial real estate. So I say there's pros and cons, right? So in commercial real estate, if you have an office building or a shopping center or a ground lease, you rent to a McDonald's, whatever. You don't get phone calls at two in the morning saying my hot water tank just exploded, my furnace isn't working. So you still get property management calls, but they're typically from you know Monday through Friday, nine to five type of thing, and you don't need millions of dollars. People think you do. It's like you can buy a small two or three tenant office building or a two or three tenant retail shopping center, maybe something has a nail salon, hair salon in it. Depending on the market you're in, that could be a couple $100,000 to buy. If you're in a tertiary town in the United States, if you're in a major metro, it could be a million, 2  million bucks. But the rent is commiserate with what you're paying. So if you can make an 8 or 10% return, a lot of banks will finance startup people as long they're looking in commercial at the quality of the tenant and what the lease is. So you could have no experience, but if you're going to rent to a Hertz rental car, a Starbucks, a McDonald's, even if you personally have like say a 750 credit score, it's decent. It's not a perfect credit score, but you're financeable. They're lending in commercial real estate based on the credit and the length of the leases, not necessarily on your own financials. And a lot of people don't realize that, and they think, "Oh, bank's never going to approve me because I've never done commercial real estate before. Well, nobody's ever done anything until they do it, right? So as long as you start small, banks will lend to people, you know, on smaller things, there's a ton of pros to being in commercial real estate compared to residential. There's less competition. It's easier to repeat deals because once you know one tenant's looking for something, then you can find the next thing they're looking for, and it's a small knit group. You know, if there's 3 million real estate agents in the United States, I would say across the entire country, maybe 10,000 of us are commercial real estate agents.   Keith Weinhold  8:05   Yeah.   Todd Drowlette  8:06   So if you get into commercial, once you get into that network of people with a deal with the tenants and the whatever, you know, if you're in, you're in. If you're out, you're out. That was a very long answer to a very short question.   Keith Weinhold  8:16   Well, some people even have one of the same hangups about residential real estate investing-they think just to buy income property takes an awful lot of money, not realizing you can start with a single-family home of less than 300k or even less than 200k still today and make a small down payment on it. And you know, Todd, I think one thing that refines commercial real estate for some people and piques interest among residential investors is one of the first things that they learn when they're finding out about commercial real estate investing is the triple net lease. Oftentimes, you see that abbreviated NNN out there, and how that can make things somewhat more hands off for that commercial real estate investor. So, can you tell us about triple net leases?   Todd Drowlette  9:00   I sure can. Number one, the funny thing about triple net leases: none of the three things the N's represent start with an N. So your triple nets are literally your real estate taxes, your insurance, and your commonary maintenance. None of which start with an N. Yet it's called N N N.   Keith Weinhold  9:14   It's kind of like reading, writing, and arithmetic. The 3r is what only one of them starts with an R. It's a terrible acronym, but yes.   Todd Drowlette  9:22   Exactly. So there's different types of triple net properties. So essentially, a triple net property, unlike most residential, where you're responsible, you get X amount of rent, and then out of that rent for your income, you're going to subtract out your school tax, your property tax, your property insurance, liability insurance, you know, snow plowing, lawn mowing, all that type of stuff, right? So triple net properties, you have absolute net properties, which is the best thing you can own from a landlord's perspective. Those are things that are called absolute ground leases or an absolute net lease. Typically, you'll see those in like many gas stations. Will be that a lot of McDonald's. Deals are that where essentially you own a piece of property, you buy a piece of property, and you go here. You have X amount of time to put your building up, do construction, get your approvals. You're going to pay me X per month in a ground rent. You build your own building, you own your own building, you're responsible for it, and I just own the dirt. And those are typically 10 to 20 year leases with options. The downside of a triple net ground lease is you can't depreciate anything because it's just ground, right? So you don't get the depreciation you get with other properties, but you have no risk other than the credit of the tenant. So if you're signing a lease with the United States Postal Service and it's the federal government, you know you're getting that. Those will trade typically about one percentage point higher than U.S. Treasuries because there's very, very little risk in it. But there is some risk, so as an investor, you need a little bit better return than the guarantee of a U.S. Treasury.   Todd Drowlette  10:54   Then you have roof and structure triple net properties, where basically, okay, the roof and the structure I'm responsible for as the landlord. Anything inside of that, or you're responsible for, and then the tenants pay the proportionate share of, like I said, the taxes, the snow plowing, whatever. If that's a multi-tenant building, then you run the risk. Oh, tenant moves out as the landlord, you got to pick up that percentage. If if you have a 10,000 foot building and someone's in 2000 feet and they move out, well, now you're responsible for 20% of that tax and CAM and insurance bill until you replace it with a new tenant. But typically, if you're investing in small strip centers, smaller office buildings, which people say office is dead, I've made a fortune in office. Office is not dead. You just have to own the right office in the right place. A lot of downtown offices are dead, where they're moving to the suburbs for drugs and a lot of other issues. But typically, you know, strip centers today, people are buying those for 8% returns to as much as 10, 12% and a lot of times they're vacancy. That's upside you can add into it as well. But again, these are all things that you can get into for a couple $100,000 down, and there's way more room for error than people think there is. As long as you have a professional that's looking at the lease for you before you buy it, you know you just want to make sure the guarantee is on the lease that you have corporate guarantees. But typically, if a bank will finance it, they're also looking at that. But it's not as scary as people think it is, and it's really a strong alternative to investing in single-family homes. Not that I'm knocking single-family homes. There's pros and cons to literally everything you do in life, as you know. 100.   Keith Weinhold  12:28   A triple net lease, where in commercial property the tenant covers three main expenses or nets: property taxes, insurance, and the maintenance and repairs. And in a lot of the situations, like Todd is describing, that really leaves landlords responsible for little more than the mortgage, really increasing the passivity here. And you know, tenants that are willing to shoulder a triple net lease, I don't think of them as taking on those extra costs for nothing. I think about it is in exchange, tenants typically pay lower rent then, and the tenant also gets more control over the property in a triple net arrangement.   Todd Drowlette  13:08   That's a generally safe thing to say, but I hate saying this. I can't believe I'm even saying this, but you know they say location, location, location. So it really depends on the market. The biggest mistake people make to go, oh, I get asked all the time, should I invest in land? I'm like, hell no, raw land. I go when I develop stuff, I have a use for it. Once I get the approvals, then I'll close and buy the land. Land banking stuff and just going and buying land and hoping it goes up in value. I have a number one rule that I always say to people, and it's anytime you can buy $1 for 50 cents, you buy it, but you don't buy property for $1 hoping it goes to $2 because there's no guarantee that that'll happen. In raw land, you know you have a guaranteed. You're paying taxes every year, so just paying taxes on something that's also not returning you anything is a terrible investment, in my opinion. You're speculating. If you want to speculate, just go to the casino, play roulette, pick black or red, and you have roughly a 50-50 shop minus the three greens, but there's a lot easier ways to make money than buying raw land. But shopping centers, triple net properties, there's definitely ways for people to get into that that are much lower risk, and they're not as scary as you'd think. And many banks will finance them.   Keith Weinhold  14:18   Now, if you had to buy one commercial asset today, what would that be? I know that might depend on some factors, but generally, I've got to say, industrial comes to mind for me as one of the hottest commercial real estate asset classes in quite a while.   Todd Drowlette  14:32   So I would pick two strategies. One would be high bay warehouse, whether it's specifically industrial or just warehouse, but things with high ceilings, open floor plans, like you know, a 20,000 foot warehouse, 30,000 feet, something in that range, that a lot of people want that type of use. Warehouse rents have been increasing way faster than office or retail rents have been in the same markets. And as things get more and more automated, you still need to ship stuff. You still need to. Stuff you still need to get things to people's houses, so with the whole AI boom and the crazy things that are happening, I think there's going to be a lot fewer people with jobs sooner than people realize. But I do think the warehouse is a good thing to be invested in, especially if it's on main streets. It could be retail, could be warehouse, could be whatever. The second thing I'll say that's very low risk are any businesses that Amazon can't compete with you for. So, a small strip center that's two or three tenants, that's a hair salon, a nail salon, service type business, retail tenants, because it's a turnover business. So, like nail salons, they're never going to come to your house and do your nails unless you're a billionaire, because they can make more money with people coming to them in back-to-back appointments. So any type of service business tenant that you can have, and typically nail salons, hair salons, they don't usually go out completely. Usually, if they don't want to do it anymore, they'll sell the business to somebody else, and you keep a tenant. From an ownership standpoint, there's very low turnover and having to pay new brokerage fees or do give tenant fit-ups or free rent to like get their business up and running. So I would either go high bay warehouse with loading docks like 18 foot, 20 foot or higher ceilings, open floor plans, overhead doors, 20, 30,000 square feet, or two or three tenant strip malls with high traffic counts, good suburban locations that have service type businesses. Those are your two. Would be very hard to lose as long as you don't overpay when you buy them.   Keith Weinhold  16:25   This is such an interesting thing to say when you think about a resilient business, something that can't easily be disrupted by AI or Amazon, which something like a nail salon would fit into. Tell us about some of those other types that might fit into a small retail center that are resilient that way.   Todd Drowlette  16:45   End caps, so any kind of like a Popeyes, a McDonald's, anything that's drive-through or food. Even you're starting to see, you know, the Tesla robots, and you're seeing more and more of that. However, people will still buy the food. So whether the employees are actually still in there, it's all robots. They still physically need a place that's close and convenient for people to drive to, or even the food delivery apps. Like a lot of the retail restaurants now are telling me 30, 40% of their orders are delivery through like Uber Eats and whatever. But those are great tenants to have because they're still making money, and as the world's changing, they're adapting. And I want tenants that adapt to the changing world. And honestly, they can afford to pay more. This is terrible. But from a strictly landlord perspective, the fewer employees they have, you don't have workers' comp claims, you don't have the insurance, you don't have all those things. The more you can afford to pay rent to landlords. So as the world's changing, those type of retail, small strip centers, end caps, fast food, QSR type food, quick serve retail. Those are definitely things that I would be considering if I was someone getting into this, and they're things that I also own. So I always recommend what I would do myself.   Keith Weinhold  17:55   Right, and with that commercial tenant, if they're serving fast food, yes, it's not like their customer has to physically show up there at that business for that business to thrive.   Todd Drowlette  18:06   And actually, if you have them as a tenant, because of the delivery, like with a drive-through, you're typically only working off one or two miles. But Uber Eats or these other meal services, they're now going out five, six, even seven miles in some places. So that actually means their sales could be higher. And another thing I didn't mention, but now I'm thinking, a lot of restaurant tenants will pay a percentage rent. So actually, as their sales go up, even though there's not more infrastructure, you know, strains from more customers coming in and out of your property, as they're doing the meal delivery, you're actually potentially be getting cut of that as a landlord with percentage rent, which is a thing that doesn't exist in residential real estate, obviously, there's multiple streams of income for triple net properties at times when you have percentage rent that doesn't exist in warehouse, where it's in retail. It doesn't exist in office, doesn't exist in warehouse, doesn't exist in residential. So that can be a nice bonus, and you see that with supermarkets, restaurants, different types of retailers pay percentage run.   Keith Weinhold  19:05   Okay, so in a sense, Todd, we've been talking about going against the flow, if you will, in being in businesses that are resilient toward disruption from AI or Amazon. But while we're talking about industrial real estate, warehouses do come to mind for me soon afterward, I think generations ago maybe industrial had the connotation of a dirty factory. But today, when I think about warehouses, I think about Amazon fulfillment centers or AI data centers. So, what is the business like for investing in those sort of warehouse deals, and how do those deals even get put together for these warehouse types.   Todd Drowlette  19:42   So you have two types. So you have people who do spec building. So there's guys that will go out and say, "Hey, I'm in the warehousing business, and they'll go through. They'll get approvals and they'll say they'll buy 10 acres, 20 acres, 30 acres, and they'll say, "Okay, we're going to." Put I'm making this up. 500,000 square feet of warehouse on this. They'll go get approved, but they basically will put up a spec building of 40,000 50,000 feet, and then they'll lease it. Depending how long it takes them to lease it, then they'll build the next one. Once you kind of have one building up, it's much easier to prelease. If you just have a piece of dirt and say, hey, I'm going to do a warehouse building here. Unless you have a direct in specifically with Amazon, and they're like, hey, we need to be in Skoda, New York, you know, at this exit within 10 miles of that. And it's like anything. Once you do something for someone once, they're working across the whole country. So if you're particularly good in a specific region as developer, they will often say, "Hey, find me a spot here, here, because they're in the business of getting open and running data centers. They don't care if you're making a profit on the real estate, and they're not set up to locally go through the approvals, know the politicians, know the process, that whole thing. So there's opportunities like that. If you don't know anyone from a hole in the wall, if you have a big piece of property and you start with whatever you're comfortable with to spec out a warehouse, 10,000 feet, 5000 feet. See how long it takes. Do you lease that in six months? Does it take three months? Does it take a year? And then you can kind of take some of the profits from that, either refinance, or if you have a construction loan, then build the next one, build the next one, and build the next one. You can kind of build out as the demand comes along.   Keith Weinhold  21:22   You're listening to Get Rich Education. We're talking to the star of the A and E show, the Real Estate Commission, Todd Drowlette. So much when we come back. He's going to update us on what's happening with office to residential conversions, how much higher interest rate pain is still going to surface in some of these deals, and a negotiation tactic or two that you can use for your own residential deals. I'm your host Keith Weinhold. Flock Homes helps you retire from real estate and landlording, whether it's one problem property or your whole portfolio, through a 721 exchange, deferring your capital gains tax and depreciation recapture. It's a strategy long used by the ultra wealthy. Now, mom and pop landlords can 721 the residential real estate request your initial valuation. See if your properties qualify at flockhomes.com/gre. That's flockehomes.com/gre. Let me ask you something: If you've worked hard to build wealth, is your money positioned to actually support your goals? A lot of accredited investors leave capital sitting in cash because it feels safe, but inflation and missed income opportunities can quietly erode its value. Freedom Family Investments offers freedom notes for investors seeking structured income backed by real estate. It's a straightforward approach built on real assets, not speculation. And full disclosure, I'm an investor myself. What I like is that their team walks you through how it all works, so you can decide if it aligns with your portfolio and income goals. Every investment carries risk, and nothing is guaranteed, but with a track record of consistent, on-time investor payouts, they built real credibility.   Todd Drowlette  24:15   Well, I'll tell you about some of the pitfalls, and I'll tell you the huge opportunities. If you have office buildings that are vacant, you know, particularly in downtown municipalities like in Albany, New York, you know, our state capital in New York. Politicians and the government right now are creating a lot of incentives to convert those, where they're putting up grant and giving away millions of dollars to private developers that you don't have to repay. So there's a huge opportunity to have people take on a lot of the risk for you to do it. Some of the pitfalls people get into are you want to pick the right office building to do it for. So you want to a make sure that that office building either has on site parking garages or on site parking because I've seen people try to do it and that. Downtowns where there's no parking, and you can put a lot of money in a building with no parking. And if you're not in New York City, where people are used to, and you're competing against suburban apartments, that's a tough sell. So that's number one. Number two, for whatever reason, people really want in office buildings and downtown settings floor-to-ceiling windows. So you really want to pick office buildings that already have floor-to-ceiling windows because it can be very expensive. If you get over three floors, it can be very expensive to cut out windows and make them larger. And another, this is a huge money potential pitfall if you're not careful. Many municipalities and states have different codes for elevators for residential buildings than they have for office. It makes no sense to me, but office buildings. It has to do with fitting the elevator has to be large enough that you can get a stretcher if someone had a heart attack and needed to be wheeled out. Ah, for some reason, residential buildings require larger elevators, and if your shaft isn't big enough and your car isn't big enough. You could have a million dollars or more of an unexpected expense to either make the shaft bigger. Some buildings you can't even do it.   Keith Weinhold  26:08   Well, but if it was originally set up for-   Todd Drowlette  26:09   It doesn't make any sense either. This is new. If you have an office building that's 30 stories tall, people could have heart attacks in the middle of the day at the office. So how is that any different than if they're at home in an apartment and have a heart attack, so it doesn't make any sense to me why the code is different for the fire code. But in New York State, the fire code is different, and that can be astronomically expensive, or it can literally stop your project dead in the tracks if it just becomes cost prohibitive to do it.   Keith Weinhold  26:34   That's something that I never would have thought about. I generally like to see office to residential conversions revitalizing central business districts in our cities. You know, you talked about the parking before having less need for parking. If people can walk to work and where they work, that increases the walkability of an area. I like so many things about office to residential conversions, despite all the hardships and the pitfalls you have to avoid.   Todd Drowlette  27:01   Oh, they're great. You just want to make sure you're picking the right building. So my point is, if you have five or 10 vacant office buildings, mostly vacant office buildings, just make sure you're choosing the right one. And before you buy it, do your due diligence and go through with contractors and engineers and architects that understand all the codes and say, hey, the other positive thing that saves money in office conversions is most office buildings. If you have an elevator bank, typically have bathrooms directly across from the elevator bank, so water and sewer can be very expensive when you're running apartments. So having central lines going up through usually concrete floors can save you a ton of money in the design and the layout of how you place the units and do it around central bathrooms, but typically larger office buildings will have plumbing and sewer on different parts of the floor. So it just means you have to go less distance and it saves money. And a lot of office buildings, even older ones, have higher ceilings, which today is very desirable for apartments. So if you can have a building that has natural light, high ceilings, and you can get grant money to do it, that's definitely something people should look into. And even with a smaller building, I've seen people in New York people are converting 5000 foot office buildings into like five units. You know, there's money to be made. You just have to buy right. I always say, you know, if you can buy $1 for 50 cents. Buy it. Don't buy $1 and hope it goes to $2 A   Keith Weinhold  28:25   lot of these physical limitations, oftentimes in the office to residential conversion, and Todd in the residential world, oftentimes apartment buildings have been problematic. A lot of these syndicators have had their deals blow up because in 2022 or earlier they got five to seven year fixed rate debt. Those deals are coming due. The mortgage payments double, and a lot of times the operator just can't meet it, and it blows up. And apartment building values have been down about 30% nationally, largely for that reason, even though an apartment building owner gets a commercial loan, I still want to know from the commercial side and the commercial use type how much higher interest rate pain do you see that has surfaced and is still going to surface.   Todd Drowlette  29:17   So, I'll answer this by quoting my grandmother. She said, "Anytime you want to cook, whatever size pot you think you need, pick twice that size pot and start using that.   Keith Weinhold  29:29   Yeah.   Todd Drowlette  29:29   So I say the same thing when you're financing a deal or you're writing it out and seeing what your returns are. I always say to people, make sure that you have a big enough cushion in there for all the things you can never predict in commercial loans, there's a ton of guys that are about to lose their shirts, and you're starting to see it because, unfortunately, I don't know if it's true in residential real estate, but in commercial real estate, I've seen guys go from nothing to 50 million, 100 million, $200 million net worths, but I've also seen. Lose everything. So what happens in commercial real estate that you don't want to do is so many people say OPM, use other people's money, use other people's money, use other people's money, which is fine as a strategy. But what you don't want to do is cross collateralized loans. So if you have one property and then you go, oh, let me refinance that and then buy a next property and I'll refinance that and buy the next property, and then the bank's like, okay, we'll refinance that, but we're going to now tie all these properties together as one mortgage, or you're going to cross guarantee these properties. Right. The problem with that is, the people who do that strategy, if you started at that, you know, in 2021 when interest rates, you could get things at three and three quarters percent. Well, commercial loans are five-year loans typically, and they might have 20 or 20-five-year amortizations. So, unlike a residential mortgage that's a 15 or 20 or 30-year self-amortizing loan, they're not. At the end of five years, you have a balloon payment that you have to pay off. So, if interest rates are going down, that's amazing because if your tenants are the same, and even if your rents didn't change, and you bought something at 6% and now it's at 5% Your cash flow goes up significantly, and nothing happened other than your refinance. The problem is you have a ton of guys right now, guys, women, people that were financing stuff five years ago at three and three quarters, and now interest rates are hanging six and a quarter, six and a half, depending on the property, is might maybe seven. Same tenant, same everything. You're giving the keys back to the bank because you're broke now. Because all of a sudden you're financing, you squeeze too much out of the deal. I always say you can take on the in in or you can take on the out, but you can't have both. So when people are financing stuff, they just need to make sure. Like here's another thing I'll go off on. A lot of people will buy stuff with tax credits, and you see even with residential apartments, a lot of guys are financing that, selling people tax credits. Economies and things change and things move. If a deal is so tight that you need the tax credits to make the deal make sense, yeah, don't do the fricking deal because tax credits should be an added bonus. That's just, hey, that's a nice adding to the cushion. So many people have razor thin margins. They go, oh well, I do the tax credits. If I can get 70 cents on the dollar, this is how I make the money. I tell people I will have nothing to do with tax credit deals unless it's strictly a bonus. The deal has to stand on its own, and always assume in the course of five years interest rates could go up three points or down three points. Most people will not listen to me and will not do that. If you do that, you'll never get killed and you won't lose a property. It's super conservative, but there's enough money you can make, and if you buy it right, that's how you can afford to figure that spread in when you're financing something. But just so many people get greedy, and I just think back to my friend Bob Bear, who died. I met him when he was like 70-five. He was a billionaire, self-made, and he used to say to me, "It's not what you make; it's what you keep. And when people would ask how rich are you, he knew how rich he was. He would say, "I don't owe anybody in the world a dime.   Todd Drowlette  32:59   And to me, my entire strategy is I don't owe anybody in the world a dime. So I personally look at deals and say, out of my own cash flows, what can I buy? And instead of buying four properties a year, I might buy one property a year. But if I'm buying that and compounding my returns, I'm not paying interest to the banks. So it's just a different strategy. I sleep at night. I'm like the multimillionaire next door. I don't live extravagantly. I don't drive Ferraris and Rolls Royces. That's just not my thing. But I sleep at night and I have peace, which is important to me, knowing I don't owe anybody in the world a dime. But will I get as rich as the guy who's risking everything? No. But real estate to me is musical chairs, and the music always stops at some point. And there's never enough chairs for everybody. But if you're somebody who's in a cash position, which you're going to be going through in the next six months to a year, on the residential and commercial, I think there's going to be blood in the streets. And I think people who are sitting in cash are going to have like a once in a lifetime opportunity to buy things at a deep discount.   Keith Weinhold  34:02   Philosophically, we're different in one way. I use debt and leverage to grow larger, but ensuring that I do have enough income to cover the mortgage and all the operating expenses. But Todd, to your analogy about your grandmother in selecting a bigger pot than what she would need to cook whatever she's going to do, when it does come to debt, the last time I bought an apartment building myself, which wasn't recent, I could have chosen seven-year fixed-rate debt with a balloon at the end, or 10-year fixed-rate debt with a balloon at the end. The 10-year fixed-rate debt cost me one quarter of a percent more in mortgage rate, which dented my cash flow during the entire duration of that loan. But I did indeed choose that 10-year loan in order to have that much more certainty, and I sure am glad that that's what I did.   Todd Drowlette  34:54   That's always the game because it's people think that rich people know what you don't, or it's inside. Whatever I'm like. Number one, if you sit in a room with a bunch of rich people, yes, they will work against you if it benefits them to work together. But if it doesn't, you have egos and separate interests that are all competing. And there's always that thing of I know very very rich people who could buy and sell me 100 times over, and I also know that you don't know what you don't know, and the world has gotten so complicated, and financial markets are all intertwined globally. Anyone to be able to predict, it's like it's a crapshoot when you're like, okay, do I take seven years? Where do I think interest rates will be in seven years? It's hard to say where interest rates going to be tomorrow. You ask a banker tomorrow, they can't tell you. So it's like, what's your best educated guess of seven or 10 years? What's the better play? But I always go the conservative route.   Keith Weinhold  35:43   I think it's easier to predict the future direction of capital prices than it is interest rates. Myself,   Todd Drowlette  35:50   but I will say also, I am the exception. And if you have 100 other guests on here in the next year, well, 50-one more guests in here the next year, yeah, they would all say Todd's an idiot. That's terrible advice. If you want to get rich, literally leverage, leverage. Just do it intelligently, and I acknowledge that. I don't see the world the way other people do, but my end game is to be rich and comfortable, and to sleep at night with peace. And that's why I choose to do what I do, realizing I'm giving up. It's the you know what are you giving up to what do you gain benefit analysis, and I'm realizing I'm giving up some upside in my total potential net worth. But I like peace, and you know I had anxiety for years. I don't have it anymore, and I live my life to be as anxiety free as I can possibly be.   Keith Weinhold  36:34   That's interesting, and that certainly works for you, Todd. What's one negotiation tactic that you get from dealing with, well, let's say Decca or Centa million dollar commercial deals that our listeners could use the very next time that they buy a rental property.   Todd Drowlette  36:53   So the number one mistake I think people make is they assume what's motivating the other person, and they assume it's always price. So anytime I'm going to negotiate a deal from someone, whoever has the most information always wins, and whoever doesn't need the deal always wins. Yeah. So I want to know as much about that other person on the other side as I am. Are they going through a divorce? Are they desperate? Do they hate each other? Is it a partnership breakup? Did somebody inherit it and they live five states away and don't even know what this thing is worth that they have. So the number one thing from a negotiating standpoint is understand exactly who you're negotiating with and what's motivating them. From an actual tactic standpoint, just think logically through whatever the process is, and you can always go up. You can't go down. So the key is to offer as little as you can without insulting the person, so they don't even respond. So figure out what that fine line is, and before you go into the negotiation, know what your walk away number is. That's just the point you're not getting over. The fast way to lose in a negotiation is to get stuck in a bidding war. There's nothing I want so much that I'm going to overpay for it. So when people go, "Well, if somebody else is interested, I go then sell it to them. Yeah, I don't need it. Sell it to them. And then the other thing I'll say is, if you start the negotiation, this is the one piece. Say your number and shut up. So many people are scared of silence. And then, right, if the person doesn't immediately respond, they go, "Oh, well, I guess I offered you 500,000 I mean, I guess I could go 550. As soon as you talk after you give a number, you're negotiating against yourself. So throw the number, let it land wherever it lands, and do not talk until that person responds to you. That's like the number one mistake I see people do. They throw out a number, they get nervous with the silence, and then they immediately go up in their offer. That person could have been thinking, "Oh my God, did I forget to call back my whatever? And they're not even thinking about the number you just threw out. But people just assume, oh God, the number was too low, and then they negotiate against those. Do not do that.   Keith Weinhold  38:48   Risk the awkward silence. And yes, to your point about learning more about the other side, terms are often more important than price for sure. Well, Todd, you know a lot of commercial real estate content in mainstream media it tends to focus on these big institutional deals. But what has made your A and E show interesting, the Real Estate Commission, is what it's called. Is it focuses more on sort of leasing and this negotiation that we're just touching on there, and that's what makes you interesting. So tell us about what audiences can expect for season two of the Real Estate Commission on A and E.   Todd Drowlette  39:24   So, season two, you will 100% see real landlords, real brokers, real investors. You'll see real retailers. You'll see people relocating their offices in New York City. You'll see stuff in upstate New York. It's generally in the Northeast. In the first season, we helped a kitchen cabinet manufacturer relocate their suburban offices in Philadelphia. I sold a 50-unit HUD property that has a HAP contract you might be familiar with. That was crazy going through a bankruptcy foreclosure proceeding two year. That was crazy. Yeah, so you are going to. See more of that. It's a documentary. It's not a reality show, so you're watching the deal as it unfolds. Some things have happy endings. Some things have terrible endings, but they're real endings either way. So people will see a lot of that of deals happening in the Northeast. And if someone's listening and they're a business owner and they want to be part of the show, they can apply. We're announcing the casting will be open for about three weeks across the U.S. They can go to the realestatecommission.com/forward/tv and they can apply to be part of the show.   Keith Weinhold  40:32   Now, since you started this last year, I want to ask: Has this A and E exposure helped you generate more business and create traffic? I would really think so.   Todd Drowlette  40:42   Yeah, I wasn't sure. You know how because you never anything new. You never know, right? Like I put time and energy into it. It definitely did. Definitely, people start to notice you, which is a little weird. I was in a cell phone store, and they literally it was playing, and the guy's like, "Oh, it's you! Like, and then everybody who's walking in, he's like, "Hey, look, it's the guy on TV. He's right here. That was like kind of an awkward. Like, I'm like, "Okay, this is weird. Guy was excited, so that was fine. It's an adjustment of things, but it definitely has increased our overall visibility and people reaching out to do deals with us for sure.   Keith Weinhold  41:18   Is there any last resource you'd like to tell our audience about.   Todd Drowlette  41:21   I would just quickly announce the first season did so well. We're actually doing a spinoff show that'll also air on A and E called the Real Estate Commission New York that we're casting in upstate New York as well as New York City for brokers, agents, home sellers, home buyers that will actually document real buyers, real sellers, same thing. It'll follow our format, which I know there's a million shows on TV about real estate. Those are reality shows, not docu series. And I'll say, without going into the details, there's a very big difference between those two and what you're actually seeing on camera and what's happening. That will air in March of 2027, back to back with our show, I will make cameos in that. But I'm executive producing that show, so from your residential audience, that's a show they should tune into. I think they'll get a lot out of it.   Keith Weinhold  42:12   Congratulations! Your show has had so much success that it's setting the template for another show, and it has been most interesting since we first had you here last year to follow this along, Todd Drowlette. It's been a valuable chat. Thanks so much for coming back onto the show.   Todd Drowlette  42:28   I'd love to come back anytime, and thank you so much for having me on again. I appreciate it.   Keith Weinhold  42:38   Drowlette is spelled D R O W L E T T E. Todd and I talk a good bit off mic as well. In addition to the elevators, sometimes he emphasizes how cumbersome to impossible HVAC system compatibility is when you're doing office to residential building conversions. Too, you just never seem to hear about an easier than expected office to residential property conversion. It is most interesting and rare that Todd is not much of a leverage guy at all. Whereas in the vein of financially free beats debt free, I like to approach deals where the interest cost is lower than the expected opportunity cost. When it comes to negotiating, some of Todd's approach, you know, it's similar to what prominent hostage negotiator Chris Voss shared with you here on the show a few years ago. That silence is powerful in negotiating. In fact, if you feel like you need to say something to fill the silence. Use what Chris Voss calls the mirroring technique, and the mirroring technique that is simply repeating what the other party just said, kind of like a parrot would. For example, if you're trying to buy a property and the seller says that the best they can do is sell it to you for 550k and a delayed 90-day close. Reply with 550k and a 90-day close, and then listen to see if the seller comes down from there. Or instead, you can simply say nothing and just sit there with the silence like Todd recommended. The reason I like these particular negotiating techniques right here is that they're easy to remember and they're easy to do. You either remain silent or, per the mirroring technique, you just repeat the last words that the other party said. Thanks to Todd Drowlette today, you can check out the real estate commission on A and E Coming up here on the show soon. Back to residential, where for the first time ever on the show here we discuss what might be the greatest real estate cash flow strategy because it's becoming quite popular today. Until next week, I'm your host Keith Weinhold. Don't quit your daydream.   Speaker 1  45:08   Nothing on this show should be considered specific, personal, or professional advice. Please consult an appropriate tax, legal, real estate, financial, or business professional for individualized advice. Opinions of guests are their own. Information is not guaranteed. All investment strategies have the potential for profit or loss. The host is operating on behalf of Get Rich Education LLC exclusively.   Keith Weinhold  45:36   The preceding program was brought to you by your home for wealth building getricheducation.com  

A man walked into a room with a gun, a grievance, and nothing left to lose. The person who talked him down had spent 20 years learning one thing: the moment you make someone feel understood, the whole situation changes.Meet Derek Gaunt; he spent 29 years in law enforcement, 20 of those on hostage negotiation teams in the DC metro area. Now an instructor and expert coach at the Black Swan Group — Chris Voss's firm — Derek brings the same tactical empathy that resolved life-or-death standoffs into every boardroom, difficult conversation, and parenting moment he trains. He's the author of Ego Authority Failure and the newly released Fight Less, Win More — a practical companion to Never Split the Difference. In this episode, Derek joins Jon and Will to break down what tactical empathy really is, why your tone does 13 times more work than your words, and how to get more of what you want by getting people to say no.IN THIS EPISODE:1.  What tactical empathy actually is — and why 95% of people aren't getting it anywhere2.  No-oriented questions: why asking for no gets you more than pushing for yes3.  The three levels of listening — and which one most people are stuck in4.  The three voices: accommodator, late-night FM DJ, and the BISS voice to never use5.  The blue flame, ego authority failure, and why rapid promotion creates toxic leadersMore about Derek Gaunt:1.  Website: https://www.blackswanltd.com2.  Book: Ego, Authority, Failure: Using Emotional Intelligence Like a Hostage Negotiator to Succeed as a Leader (2nd Edition) — on Amazon and blackswanltd.com3.  Book: Fight Less, Win More: How Master Negotiators Influence Hearts, Minds, and Deals (co-authored with Jonathan B. Smith, foreword by Chris Voss) — on Amazon4.  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-gaunt-2943a824/ Check out our Awareness-to-action Self Mastery COURSE & COMMUNITY:12 modules on attention, presence & performance. Work at your own pace plus a community built for Inspiration and connection.1.  www.focusnowtraining.com/a2a-CourseJOIN US IN PERSON — Future Events and Retreats.1.  Live in-person event: Warrior Defined. We will be in Charlotte, NC, September 25, 2026 more info HERE: Or mentalkingmindfulness.comGET MORE FROM MTM:Text MTM to 33777 — free weekly newsletter1.  Subscribe: mentalkingmindfulness.com2.  FNT: focusnowtraining.comBRING FNT TO YOUR TEAM:1.  focusnowtraining.com/contactProduced by Robert Lopez | https://www.cratesaudio.com/

What happens when your industry gets flooded with outside capital, your team won't match your effort, and AI is rewriting the rules overnight? In this special live AMMA episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill takes unfiltered questions from law firm owners at the SELECT retreat, covering everything from team motivation to private equity to AI's impact on legal marketing. From why intrinsic drive can't be taught to how to position your firm for a future shaped by PE consolidation, this AMMA is a rapid-fire masterclass in leadership, strategy, and building something worth owning. Here's what you'll learn: Why intrinsic drive can't be coached, and what to do when your team doesn't have it How private equity is reshaping legal, and why the middle of the market is the most dangerous place to be What it takes to attract premium clients through brand, not volume The firms that win from here aren't the hardest working, they're the ones nobody can afford to ignore. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:02:05) Motivating your team (00:04:30) We no longer coach effort (00:05:25) PE and the future of law firms (00:07:30) The MSO model (00:08:54) Marketing for niche practices (00:10:14) The James Sexton playbook (00:12:20) AI, layoffs, and your team (00:14:45) AI as a growth lever (00:16:28) Should you pursue an MSO? (00:18:25) There is no easy money (00:19:41) Run your own race ---- Links & Resources: Morgan & Morgan James Sexton David Goggins Can't Hurt Me by David Goggins Ken Rideout John Foy & Associates Andrew Huberman Atlanta Tech Village David Cummings ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 456. AMMA - Why It's Your Fault If Your Team Isn't Performing 377. AMMA - Market Chaos: How to Not Just Survive, But Thrive 345. AMMA - The AI Advantage: What to Automate, What to Keep Human, and How to Stay Ahead

The Future of GPUs: How iFrame.ai is Redefining Cost and Performance iframe.ai About the Guest(s): Vlad Panit is the CEO of iFrame.ai, a company specializing in deploying GPUs and building data centers for better compute resources, primarily targeting Neocloud providers, hyperscalers, and AI labs. Vlad’s journey in entrepreneurship began at 18, with a pivot towards IT and engineering endeavors from 2008. His significant work includes e-health projects in Europe and AI applications in medical coding automation. Originally from Ukraine, Vlad has expanded his endeavors to the United States over the past seven years, using his expertise to spearhead innovation in AI-related technologies. Episode Summary: In this insightful episode of The Chris Voss Show, host Chris Voss dives into the world of AI with guest Vlad Panit, the CEO of iFrame.ai. The conversation explores the backbone of AI infrastructure focusing on the deployment of GPUs in data centers. Vlad shares how iFrame.ai provides bare metal GPU services, offering significant cost savings over conventional cloud providers like Amazon AWS. This episode sheds light on AI’s evolving landscape and the technological advancements driving it, making it particularly relevant for business professionals and tech enthusiasts interested in AI advancements. Chris and Vlad delve into the differences between AI infrastructure services provided by iFrame.ai and traditional offerings by big players like AWS and Google. Vlad explains the company’s unique position in providing bare metal services that enhance cost and operational efficiency for customers, especially in AI training and inference. Highlighting the broader implications of AI’s rapid development, Vlad also reflects on the challenges and opportunities that come with deploying large-scale GPU networks, touching on both technological and environmental impacts. Key Takeaways: iFrame.ai offers bare metal GPU services which can be three to four times more affordable compared to AWS and Google Cloud offerings. The company’s infrastructure supports significant cost savings in AI operations, making it an attractive option for companies looking to optimize AI workloads. Vlad Panit emphasizes the importance of deploying GPUs efficiently to enhance the availability and reliability of compute resources for AI applications. The discussion highlights the evolving market landscape as tech giants like OpenAI and Anthropic move towards public offerings, with AI infrastructure playing a pivotal role. The conversation also touches on the environmental impact of AI data centers and the importance of sustainable energy practices in powering such facilities. Notable Quotes: “We deploy GPUs. We build data centers, put a lot of compute there, and then sell it to near clouds, hyperscalers, AI labs—some of which you probably use in daily life.” “We’re able to sell our services three to four times cheaper than AWS.” “The difference with AI’s GPU use versus gaming is it requires uploading and storing entire models, which is more complex and costly.” “AI data centers should have their own energy supply to be better for everyone, from local communities to the data center operations.” “It’s a huge overestimation to say there’s a bubble in AI; the infrastructure costs alone are massive to support large-scale AI operations.” Resources: iFrame.ai – Discover more about the company’s GPU deployment services. Connect with Vlad or explore further through LinkedIn and Goodreads. Tune in to the full episode of The Chris Voss Show to gain a deeper understanding of AI infrastructure and the intricacies of deploying GPUs for cutting-edge technology applications. Stay connected for more intriguing discussions with thought leaders shaping the future.

This is A Fan Favorite Rerun Episode I had an incredible conversation with Chris Voss, a former FBI hostage negotiator, in this week's episode of Successful with ADHD. Chris shared so many valuable insights on communication, empathy, and understanding - topics that are very relevant for the ADHD community.Chris is a former Lead FBI Negotiator and dynamic speaker who debunks the biggest myths around negotiation. Chris engages all groups with captivating stories, insights, and useful tips for business and everyday life. Chris has lectured on negotiation at business schools across the country and has been seen on ABC, CBS, CNN, and Fox News. Chris has also been featured in Forbes, Time, Fast Company, and Inc. Chris's Keynotes are based on his book Never Split The Difference©.Episode Highlights:[01:06] – Starstruck by my guest Chris Voss and why his book means so much to me and my husband.[02:48] - Chris emphasizes the importance of listening and paying attention to more than just words in a conversation.[03:50] - Strategies Chris suggests for people with ADHD to improve focus when listening intently.[06:37] - How turning communication into a "game" can help capture wandering attention.[08:39] - The challenges of reading body language accurately via video calls compared to in-person interactions.[10:00] - Tips for maintaining engagement and energy on long video calls.[11:05] - Using the "mirroring" technique to bring attention back to key points you may have missed.[13:52] - Why some personalities may not enjoy being "mirrored" and prefer different approaches.[17:22] - The strategic use of apologies before interruptions or assertions.[19:10] - Why apologies shouldn't necessarily be seen as a sign of weakness.[20:10] - Whether communication tactics can be used effectively when both parties are aware of them.[21:33] - Chris explains prospect theory and loss aversion based on the work of Daniel Kahneman.[25:14] - The importance of empathy and appreciation when using the powerful tool of invoking loss.[26:34] - The benefits of handwriting over typing for memory retention and focus.[29:49] - Practicing mental hygiene to counter our innate negativity bias.[32:33] - Tuning into emotions rather than words when listening.[35:33] - Paying attention to the "emotional timeline" based on the type of feelings being expressed.[36:01] - Strategies for bridging disagreements by ensuring people feel truly heard.[40:03] - Thoughts on reducing conflict through understanding and empathy for all sides.[40:56] - Whether world peace can ever be achieved.[43:13] - The importance of making people feel heard in communication.Connect with Chris Voss:•Black Swan Ltd - Chris Voss's company website: www.blackswanltd.com•The Edge weekly email newsletter - get free negotiation tips from Chris•Never Split the Difference - Chris's bestselling bookI loved diving into so many facets of communication and empathy with an expert like Chris. Let me know if you found this episode valuable by leaving a review! And don't forget to follow along on social media @coachingwithbrooke. See you next time!

When most people think of negotiation, they picture big, high-stakes moments: haggling over the price of a house, negotiating a starting salary, or hammering out the terms of a business deal. But negotiation is also something we do every day. It's working out who's taking on which chores with your spouse, convincing a coworker to help on a project, or even deciding where to go for dinner with friends. The better you understand negotiation — which is really about influencing other people's decisions — the better you'll be at navigating conflicts and opportunities both big and small.My guest has spent decades studying the art and science of wielding that influence. John Richardson teaches negotiation at MIT's Sloan School of Management and is the co-author of Never Settle. Today on the show, John shares what he learned from negotiation legends like Roger Fisher, co-author of Getting to Yes, and FBI hostage negotiator Chris Voss. He unpacks the skills of master negotiators, including how to build reciprocity, uncover what people actually want, and keep your emotions from hijacking your judgment. We also get into the part of negotiation that makes people the most uncomfortable: the back-and-forth over hard numbers like price and salary and how to handle those conversations with greater confidence and better results.Resources Related to the PodcastAoM Podcast #234: Haggling and Deal Making Advice From a FBI Hostage Negotiator (With Chris Voss)AoM Podcast #559: How to Handle Difficult Conversations (With Sheila Heen)Influence: The Essential Guide to the Psychology of Influence and Persuasion in Everyday Life by Robert B. CialdiniAoM Article: How Labeling Your Emotions Can Help You Take ControlGetting to Yes: Negotiating Agreement Without Giving In by Roger FisherStart with NO…The Negotiating Tools that the Pros Don't Want You to Know by Jim CampConnect With John RichardsonNever Settle websiteJohn's faculty page0:00 Everyday Negotiation & Meet John Richardson2:18 John's Path Into Negotiation9:50 Why People Fear Negotiation12:34 Roger Fisher's Philosophy (Getting to Yes)17:46 Chris Voss & Hostage Negotiation Tactics22:54 Give Them a Sandwich (Reciprocity)30:06 Using Someone's Name33:59 Managing Your Emotions39:00 Figuring Out What Everyone Wants46:29 Distributive Negotiation & Anchoring54:52 Alternatives, Saying No & ClosingSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

What if the data you're obsessing over is the very thing capping how far you can go? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Andy Walshe, the human performance leader behind Red Bull's high-performance program and the Felix Baumgartner stratosphere jump. They dig into why the metrics everyone chases can only take you so far, and why the traits that truly separate elite performers (character, creativity, how you show up when it's hard) are the ones almost no one is actually training. It's a look under the hood of what elite performance really requires when the stakes are highest. Here's what you'll learn: How character, not metrics, can be the real dividing line between good and elite How to train creativity as a skill instead of treating it as a gift you're born with What it takes to perform under extreme pressure when everything is on the line If you've been optimizing the measurable and ignoring the human, this is your wake-up call. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:02:40) From athlete to performance coach (00:03:31) Why Red Bull obsesses over performance (00:05:38) What makes elite performers special (00:07:18) Not everything can be measured (00:09:27) Training character and creativity (00:12:00) The Felix Baumgartner jump (00:20:32) Why the Enhanced Games flopped (00:23:12) Training under manufactured fear (00:27:05) The right dose of stress (00:30:00) What cold plunging really trains (00:32:09) No secrets: the 70-20-10 rule (00:36:55) The trait that predicts greatness (00:39:24) Do elite traits cross fields? (00:41:31) Ego, humility, and luck (00:45:47) What it means to be a game changer ---- Links & Resources: Andy Walshe Liminal Collective Red Bull Stratos Felix Baumgartner Joe Kittinger Enhanced Games Australian Institute of Sport ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 461. Mastering Biological Fundamentals for Elite Performance with Dr. Kristen Holmes 338. Will Ahmed - From Stress to Success: Optimizing the Entrepreneurial Journey 298. Rich Diviney - The Fundamental Traits Navy SEALs Use to Excel

At 16, his grandmother fled Kraków after the Nazis killed her father, worked a New York factory floor beside her mother, and applied to every medical school in the state three years running before one finally said yes — then told her second-grade grandson that education is the only thing nobody can ever take away from him.Years later, David Rogier quit his venture capital job with no idea what he wanted to build, and his boss wrote him a check for $500,000 and told him to go think of something; the dark, formless year that followed became MasterClass, whose holding company still carries his grandmother's nickname. Launch day brought so few sales that he went home and cried, and by day four it was obvious he had a real business on his hands. In this conversation, David breaks down how he got Hollywood's biggest names to say yes, why he believes degrees and résumés are quickly becoming worthless, and the three kinds of jobs he thinks will actually survive AI. David Rogier is the founder and CEO of MasterClass, the platform that put instruction from Martin Scorsese, Christina Aguilera, Steph Curry, and dozens of other world-class practitioners into the hands of millions of learners. He built it from a single $500,000 check and has since launched MasterClass Executive, an AI-native alternative to the traditional MBA created in collaboration with OpenAI and the University of Chicago Booth School of Business. IN THIS EPISODE, ILANA AND DAVID WILL DISCUSS: (00:00) Introduction (01:34) The Grandmother Who Survived Kraków and Became a Doctor (05:39) Stuttering, Teasing, and Parents Who Raised the Bar (07:15) Quitting His Job and Getting Handed a $500,000 Check (08:48) The Dark Year: What Happens When You Have No Constraints (12:58) The Three Things That Had to Be True for MasterClass to Work (14:33) The Lost Art of Opening Doors and Influencing People (19:46) Launch Day: No Calls, Almost No Sales, and a Lot of Tears (21:18) What Scorsese, Steph Curry, and Christina Aguilera Do Differently (23:53) Why “Hire Great People and Get Out of Their Way” Is Terrible Advice (27:28) The AI Study That Compressed 18 Months of School Into 18 Hours (34:16) The Skills That Matter Now: Learning Velocity, Execution, People (39:28) The Three Types of Jobs That Survive AI (44:39) Burning the Corporate Ladder: Rebuilding the MBA for $2,500(49:16) What He'd Tell His Younger Self (51:52) Q&A: My Network Feels Crowded — How Do I Get Real Introductions? CONNECT WITH DAVID ROGIER David's Company Website: https://www.masterclass.com David's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drogier/ RESOURCES MENTIONED MasterClass: https://www.masterclass.com Chris Voss's MasterClass on Negotiation: https://www.masterclass.com/classes/chris-voss-teaches-the-art-of-negotiation LEAP Episode with Chris Voss: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/leap-academy-with-ilana-golan/id1701718200?i=1000673141824 LEAP Episode with Tom Bilyeu: Tom Bilyeu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZ4EGDsKudk LEAP ACADEMY Ready to make the LEAP in your career? There is a NEW WAY for professionals to fast-track their careers and leap to bigger opportunities.Check out our free training today at https://bit.ly/leap--free-training

The advice you respect most might be the exact thing keeping your firm stuck. In this AMMA episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill tackle one of the hardest questions in growth: whose advice do you actually follow? Sparked by a listener stuck between her own instinct to get ahead of AI and a respected managing partner telling her to "let everyone else be the guinea pig," Michael breaks down why waiting out a technological shift is a decision you'll regret, why the source of advice matters as much as the content, and why doing great work means nothing if you don't market it. Here's what you'll learn: Why waiting on AI is a permanent competitive disadvantage rather than a safe hold How to tell when a mentor's advice fits your season and when it's holding you back What it takes to turn great work into the visibility that actually wins the best cases Your competitors aren't waiting for permission, and neither should you. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:07:18) The claw machine lesson (00:11:26) Q1: Should we wait on AI? (00:12:02) Early vs. late adopters (00:15:47) Growing or dying (00:17:27) Q2: A mentor says slow down (00:18:11) Right advice, wrong season (00:21:23) Why balance can cost you (00:23:54) Q3: The worst advice (00:25:50) Best cases go to marketers (00:27:43) You can't be hired in secret ---- Links & Resources: Apple Vision Pro Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 477. The Nitty Gritty of AI From an Attorney and AI Expert with Mike Brown 345. AMMA - The AI Advantage: What to Automate, What to Keep Human, and How to Stay Ahead 268. AMMA - Resilience in the Face of Uncertainty

You clawed your way to the top. So why does the fire that got you there feel like it's going out? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Tom Mitchell, the sports psychologist who spent 14 years with the Golden State Warriors and co-authored “The Winning Spirit” with NFL legend Joe Montana. They dig into how elite performers keep their edge long after the money and titles roll in, why the best leaders coach with questions instead of commands, and how one conversation can turn locker-room friction into championship chemistry. It's a masterclass in the mental game, built for the court and the boardroom alike. Here's what you'll learn: Why owning your strengths (not fixing your weaknesses) is what actually gets you paid How to have courageous conversations that eliminate partnership friction instead of letting it fester Why a relentless inner "burn" outlasts raw talent, and how to reignite it when a team gets comfortable Pressure is a privilege, and this episode will change how you carry it. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:02:23) Tom's Path to the Warriors (00:05:06) Discovering the Mental Edge (00:08:43) Courageous Conversations (00:12:43) Coaching vs. Advice Giving (00:15:00) The Question Behind the Question (00:17:49) What Joe Montana Taught Him (00:22:56) Non-Negotiable Standards (00:25:04) Five Principles of Greatness (00:30:58) Reigniting the Burn (00:33:03) Knicks vs. Spurs Breakdown (00:36:33) What Being a Game Changer Means ---- Links & Resources: The Winning Spirit: 16 Timeless Principles That Drive Performance Excellence by Joe Montana and Tom Mitchell Golden State Warriors Los Angeles Lakers Tom Mitchell Joe Montana Billie Jean King Phil Jackson Chris Mullin Mickey Hart Gregg Popovich Sugar Ray Leonard ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 418. Why Discipline Without Toxicity Wins Every Time with Dominique Dawes 255. Joe De Sena - The Spartan Mindset: Embracing Discomfort and Unleashing Mental Toughness 176. George Foreman III - The Fighter's Mentality

Why do perfectly logical, well-researched project plans still fail to win people over? It's one of the most frustrating forms of project failure—not a broken schedule or a blown budget, but a smart solution that nobody trusts. Kim and Kate dig into that exact problem, exploring decision-making, risk management,  and team performance through the lens of one hard-earned leadership lesson: being right is not enough. If you've ever done everything "to the T" and still hit resistance, this conversation is for you. In this episode, Kim and Kate welcome Noel Nicole Ransom—VP of Implementation, PMP, Lean Six Sigma Master Black Belt, educator, speaker, and founder of Sigma Certify—for a wide-ranging conversation about project leadership and career advancement. Noel has led complex enterprise implementations, organizational change efforts, and strategic transformation initiatives, and now coaches professionals on bridging the gap between certification and real influence. The topic matters because so many capable project managers get stuck being seen as schedule-checkers rather than leaders, and that perception ceiling caps both their impact and their careers. This episode explores the throughline that credibility, not correctness, is what actually moves projects forward. Noel explains that organizations run on trust rather than logic, which means a technically perfect plan can still stall if people don't feel included in how it was built. From there, the conversation moves into what Noel calls the shift from "note takers" to "progress makers" — PMs who stop documenting problems and start solving them. She offers a simple framework for unresolved roadblocks: everyone needs an owner, an action, and a date, or it can't actually be managed. The discussion also covers how to work with resistant stakeholders by treating pushback as concern rather than defiance and how leadership conversations require starting with understanding before persuasion, since executives are rarely trying to win an argument—they're trying to get to clarity. Grab a drink and join us. Quotes from the Episode "Being right is not enough." — Noel "Organizations move mostly at a speed of trust and not necessarily logic."  — Noel "You are not a glorified executive assistant."  — Noel "Teams don't need more status updates. They need fewer barriers."  — Noel "Leadership conversations really should begin with understanding before persuasion."  — Noel Practical Takeaways Treat every unresolved roadblock as incomplete until it has an owner, an action, and a date—vague status updates don't count as progress. When a stakeholder resists, get curious about the underlying concern instead of pushing harder on your rationale; questions like, "What concerns do you have?" or, "What are you seeing that we're not?" tend to open doors that arguments close. When bringing ideas to leadership, come with a rough draft or "prototype" rather than an open-ended question—it invites collaboration instead of putting the entire burden of thinking on the other person. Resist the instinct to arrive with every answer buttoned up; asking thoughtful questions early, framed the right way, builds far more trust than appearing to have it all figured out. Closing Reflection The project managers who build lasting influence aren't the ones with the most airtight plans—they're the ones who build trust one honest conversation at a time. Curiosity over certainty, progress over perfection, and quiet obstacle-removal over box-checking.

Stop Having Shallow Conversations: 3 Simple Tools to Get People Talking TalkDoc & Co. discuss how shallow, unsatisfying conversations often come from asking too many closed or leading questions and not “hanging around” for the answer. They define closed vs. open questions and explain that opening the pathway requires commitment to listen without confirming a prewritten narrative. They share three practical tools to help others talk more: asking more open questions, using mirroring (repeating one or two key words from someone's statement with respectful tone, as popularized by Chris Voss), and prompting with fill-in-the-blank fragments like “And that's because…” or “So you feel…,” paired with longer wait time and silence. They note research that getting an interviewer to talk can increase likability, but warn not to use these tools with overly negative or toxic people. Homework: pick one tool, choose a context, and practice—especially with children. Music by Epidemic Sound. SHOW NOTES: Experts : Chris Voss, Dr. Brene Brown Resource : Chris Voss https://www.amazon.com/dp/0062407805?...

Why does hitting the goal so often kill the drive that got you there? In this AMMA episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill answer three questions from law firm owners who all made it to the other side of success and found something missing. Michael offers advice beyond the usual "set a bigger goal" answer, getting into the mechanics of sustaining performance, why running at full throttle stops working as you scale, and knowing when the grind is actually the right move. Here's what you'll learn: How to rebuild drive when achieving the goal leaves you flat instead of fulfilled Why "simplify complexity" is the first move when growth outpaces your systems How to pace a team for consistent output instead of burning it out at full intensity If you've won the thing you set out to win and it feels quieter than you expected, this one recalibrates what comes next. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:02:40) Triathlon Race Recap (00:10:09) Post-Race Pop Up Bagels (00:14:12) Q1: Disconnected After a Big Win (00:15:33) Why Hitting the Goal Feels Empty (00:17:19) Q2: When Growth Outpaces Your Systems (00:20:03) Scaling From $5M to $16M in Three Months (00:21:33) Protect What the Client Feels (00:22:26) Q3: When Calm Is the Problem (00:25:20) Consistency Beats Intensity (00:27:16) Outro ---- Links & Resources: Ironman Growing Pains ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 446. AMMA - How to Know If Hard Work Is Worth It 431. Branding Secrets Your Firm Needs to Scale with Rory Vaden 403. AMMA - How To Scale Beyond Growth Basics

Unlocking Marketing ROI with AI: Insights from Uptempo’s Marie Bahl Uptempo.io About the Guest(s): Marie Bahl is the Chief Marketing Officer (CMO) of Uptempo, a pioneering company focused on providing cutting-edge marketing technology solutions. With over two decades of diverse experience across technology-focused industries, Marie is renowned for her ability to demystify complex technologies and make them appealing to targeted audiences. Her expertise spans roles in marketing and sales within prominent tech companies such as Opower, Tendril Networks, Converge, Yahoo, Zoho, and Sun Microsystems. At Uptempo, Marie drives innovative marketing strategies and customer acquisition approaches, aiming to transform the marketing landscape by leveraging artificial intelligence and data analytics. Episode Summary: In this engaging episode of The Chris Voss Show, host Chris Voss is joined by Marie Bahl, CMO of Uptempo, for an insightful discussion about the transformative potential of AI in marketing and the critical importance of proving return on investment (ROI). Marie shares her expertise on how Uptempo helps brands bridge the gap between spending and strategic success by crafting detailed, data-oriented marketing solutions. The discussion highlights the essential need to reconcile various marketing data sets to achieve a comprehensive view of ROI, which is the holy grail for marketing professionals worldwide. Throughout the conversation, Marie and Chris delve into how marketing data, when properly harnessed, can lead to unprecedented optimization and decision-making capability. Marie emphasizes the importance of using artificial intelligence appropriately, underscoring that it should focus on analytics and data synthesis rather than replacing creative output. The episode explores the concept of AI’s “jailbreak” moment, offering a glimpse into how brands can harness AI-driven insights to optimize marketing budgets and strategies. Additionally, they discuss broader industry trends, including how large corporations are adapting to new technologies and the significant challenges faced by marketers in justifying their budgets. Key Takeaways: Importance of Proving ROI: Marie highlights that ROI is a crucial measure for marketing success and how Uptempo provides the tools to tie various marketing activities directly to revenue outcomes. Role of AI in Marketing: AI’s potential lies more in data processing and analytics, not replacing human creativity. AI in marketing should enhance decision-making, not detract from the human element. Structured Data Equals Success: Reconciled and organized data is paramount for effective AI application, ensuring accurate insights and decision-making capabilities. Marketing Challenges Over Time: Marketers are expected to do more with less, requiring efficient technology to validate their strategies and demonstrate tangible business outcomes. Evolving Marketing Tools: Uptempo stands out by focusing on ROI over proxy indicators, integrating various data points to provide a holistic understanding of marketing effectiveness. Notable Quotes: “It’s not enough just to get the money at the beginning of the year, apply, do the voodoo that we do, and then at the end of the year go, ‘Hey, we did a great job.'” “Applied well, and Uptempo happens to do it, but if you can’t get it through us, buy it, build it, find it, acquire it, get somebody to do it for you, you need to be able to prove your value.” “ROI is the holy grail of every marketing CMO I think across the world; it’s the only measure that matters, and it’s the only measure we can’t get to.” “Marketing was a cost center, and you threw money at it, and we weren’t really sure what happened. Magic. Voodoo happened in the background.” “We have been spreadsheet jockeys, stitching together 80 spreadsheets to validate our existence for the last 30 years.”

There are about to be two kinds of professionals: the ones who command AI, and the ones who get commanded by it. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Mike Brown, a personal injury attorney with zero coding background who taught himself to build with AI agents and then beat 15,000+ applicants to win Anthropic's 2026 Global Claude Code Hackathon. They dig into why so many lawyers are waiting for AI to mature while a small group is already compounding a serious advantage, and why the real dividing line has nothing to do with technical skill. It comes down to curiosity, discipline, and a willingness to be bad at something for one uncomfortable week. Here's what you'll learn: What "vibe coding" actually is and why you don't need to know how to code How to prevent hallucinations, protect client privilege, and actually trust the output you get What it takes to go from overwhelmed to automated with a three-week plan any firm owner can run The people pulling ahead with AI are not the technical ones. They are the curious ones. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:03:04) What vibe coding actually is (00:06:15) Why he bet on ChatGPT early (00:09:03) How the models evolved (00:14:29) Producers vs. consumers (00:15:48) Could AI run a whole firm? (00:19:39) Fixing the housing permit crisis (00:22:26) Will AI kill jobs or create them? (00:26:33) Robotics and the hardware layer (00:34:04) AI for health and longevity (00:43:16) Beating AI's confirmation bias (00:48:18) Wrap-Up ---- Links & Resources: Crossbeam Anthropic Boris Cherny Gary Tan Andrew Huberman ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 392. How One Startup Is Rewriting the Rules of PI Law with Ray Mieszaniec 345. AMMA - The AI Advantage: What to Automate, What to Keep Human, and How to Stay Ahead 321. Kyle Bachus - Harnessing Technology for Legal Success

Ep 284 Peacewarts: Resonant Charms 101 - De-Escalation Framing (Class 3) In class 3, Avis Kalfsbeek discusses de-escalation framing as a method for lowering the emotional weight of a conflict without compromising on the truth. We explore how anchors in our language drag conversations toward escalation and how to replace evaluative judgment with descriptive observation. We examine the 1978 Camp David Accords and the Colombian peace process as masterclasses in reframing positions into interests, allowing for solutions that preserve dignity and honor. Homework: Look up the difference between a position and an interest in conflict resolution. Find one example of how a person's stated demand (position) hides their actual need (interest). Write down one question about any of this episode's topics. If you don't have a question, write no question. Optional: Think of a recurring argument in your life. Identify one anchor word you usually use and try to rewrite that truth using only descriptive, non-judgmental language. If you'd like to read more on this subject, some book suggestions are Getting to Yes: Negotiating Agreement Without Giving In by Roger Fisher and William Ury, a global gold standard for negotiation that teaches how to separate structural positions and demands from actual underlying interests to reframe disputes, and Never Split the Difference: Negotiating As If Your Life Depended On It by Chris Voss, which bridges the tactical mechanics of the FBI behavioral change stairway model with real-world linguistic framing to lower emotional temperatures safely. Learning Topics: De-escalation framing and linguistic weight; The FBI behavioral change stairway; The 1978 Camp David Accords; Reframing surrender in the Colombian peace process; Descriptive vs. evaluative language; The neuroscience of linguistic anchors. Get the Books:AvisKalfsbeek.com Podcast Music: Javier Peke Rodriguez “I am late, madame Curie” Bandcamp: https://javierpekerodriguez.bandcamp.com/ Spotify:  https://open.spotify.com/artist/3QuyqfXEKzrpUl6b12I3KW

She watched $600/hour consultants deliver terrible work for years. Then she quit corporate and built a better firm in 12 months.Rachel Losser left corporate in July 2024 to start Losser Consulting Solutions. In under a year she scaled to six employees and 10-20 consultants, almost entirely on referrals. She replaced 150-page decks with 3-slide proposals and partnered with Chris Voss on a book called Lead With Empathy.Key takeaways:00:00:00 Introduction00:02:16Q: What made Rachel Losser start her own consulting firm?A: She watched $600/hour consultants deliver terrible work and decided she could do it better00:06:35Q: How did replacing 150-page decks with 3 slides change her consulting business?A: She threw out the playbook and clients loved the clarity00:10:28Q: What is the simplest marketing strategy for a service business?A: Good work gets you more good work and fulfillment must be pristine00:19:00Q: Can AI replace consulting?A: For AI to take her job a client would have to accurately describe what they want00:31:35Q: How should founders think about work-life balance?A: Think in seasons not days with non-negotiables like dinner with your spouse every night00:49:58Q: What negotiation technique from Chris Voss changed everything?A: No-based questions remove mental load and make people more comfortable agreeingIf you have ever paid too much for bad consulting or wondered whether AI is coming for your service business, this is the episode.

Three bestselling authors—Nir Eyal, Charles Duhigg, and Chris Voss—join Travis for a powerhouse compilation episode focused on the psychology behind success. From building beliefs that fuel action to mastering meaningful conversations and negotiating with confidence, these world-class experts share practical frameworks that can improve your business, relationships, and decision-making. On this episode we talk about: Why belief—not knowledge—is often the missing ingredient between knowing what to do and actually doing it The hidden reason positive thinking and manifestation can sometimes work against you How great communicators create trust by matching the type of conversation they're having Chris Voss's negotiation tools, including mirroring, labeling, tactical empathy, and strategic silence Practical communication techniques that improve leadership, sales, and everyday relationships Top 3 Takeaways Success isn't just about having the right information—it requires believing both that you can do the work and that the work will produce the desired outcome. The best communicators don't rush to persuade. They first seek to understand by asking thoughtful questions, showing empathy, and matching the emotional context of the conversation. Great negotiators create trust by making people feel heard. Skills like mirroring, labeling emotions, and embracing silence often reveal more information than talking ever could. Notable Quotes "Motivation is not a straight line. Motivation is a triangle." "Successful communication requires having the same kind of conversation at the same moment." "Empathy is demonstrating comprehension—not agreement." Connect with Nir Eyal: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nireyal Website: https://www.nirandfar.com Connect with Charles Duhigg: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlesduhigg Website: https://charlesduhigg.com Connect with Chris Voss: Website: https://www.blackswanltd.com A Word from Our Sponsors: - Visit DrinkAG1.com/TMM to get a free AG1 Travel Case with 7 free AG1Travel Packs in your Welcome Kit with your first AG1 subscription order while supplieslast.  - Go to Leesa.com for 30% OFF select mattresses (through July 12, 2026) PLUS get an extra $50 off with promo code TMM, exclusive for my listeners  - To learn more about Mode Mobile and its investor community, go to https://invest.modemobile.com/travismakesmoney -Travis Makes Money is made possible by High Level – the All-In-One Sales & Marketing Platform built for agencies, by an agency.Capture leads, nurture them, and close more deals—all from one powerful platform.Get an extended free trial at gohighlevel.com/travis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Most firm owners think they have a strategy problem. What they actually have is a standards problem. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill take on three questions every growth-minded firm owner eventually faces: why a six-figure software implementation still isn't sticking, whether to make a major hire before everything feels "ready," and what to do when an org chart that hasn't changed in years stops fitting the business. Michael makes the case that waiting, outsourcing, and settling for "fine" are all the same problem wearing different clothes, and that the fix starts with owning the standard yourself. Here's what you'll learn: Why outsourcing leadership lets your standards slip, and how to pull them back How to tell the difference between being responsible and just procrastinating on a decision you've already made What it really takes to know whether your team and structure can carry you to the next level Stop waiting for the right time, the right hire, or the right consultant to save you: this episode is your push to own the standard yourself. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:01:47) What Michael's Reading & Watching (00:09:15) Q1: A Software Fix That Won't Stick (00:09:56) You've Outsourced Your Standards (00:12:14) Why Projects Never Ship (00:13:45) Q2: The Hire He Keeps Procrastinating (00:14:49) Waiting for Ideal Conditions (00:16:52) Q3: An Org Chart Frozen For Years (00:18:55) Why Scaling Demands a New Org (00:20:10) Would You Rehire Everyone? (00:20:47) Outro ---- Links & Resources: Earned by Chris Pronger Dungeon Crawler Carl by Matt Dinniman Widow's Bay Pantheon Ready Player One by Ernest Cline Tony Robbins ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 456. AMMA - Why It's Your Fault If Your Team Isn't Performing 345. AMMA - The AI Advantage: What to Automate, What to Keep Human, and How to Stay Ahead 240. Jessica Mogill - Why Hiring A-Players is Important

Kristen McGarr has spent over 20 years helping businesses implement CRM systems that actually work. Her core belief is that the future of CRM isn't about more technology, it's about more humanity. For CPA firm owners who have tried a CRM, abandoned it, or never started one at all, that perspective changes the conversation entirely.Kristen is the founder of Adroit Insights and CRM Growth, a growth strategist, fractional chief revenue officer, and CRM implementation specialist. She works across platforms like Zoho, HubSpot, and ActiveCampaign, and she is known for making complex systems genuinely approachable. In this conversation, she gets specific about the problems she sees most often in accounting firms: systems that are over-configured, features that never get used, and adoption that stalls because the CRM feels like administrative work rather than a growth tool.The most actionable part of this episode is Kristen's framework for building a pipeline when you have never tracked one before. She calls it the three R's: renewals, referrals, and recent conversations. For renewals, look at one-off projects that could become recurring revenue and clients you haven't heard from yet this year. For referrals, send a simple email during busy season asking for introductions and reviews. For recent conversations, think about who mentioned a challenge you rolled right past without addressing. The irony, as Kristen points out, is that tax season is exactly when firms have the most contact with clients and the most opportunity for all three, even though it feels like the worst possible time.Kristen's approach strips away the complexity that keeps most firms from ever getting real value out of a CRM. Her advice is consistent throughout: start simple, solve for the 90% of problems you actually have, and build a system that can grow with you rather than one you have to replace in a year.This episode is for firm owners curious about what a CRM can actually do for their practice when implemented well, leaders wondering how to maintain business development momentum through busy season, practitioners ready to build a pipeline but unsure where to start, and anyone who has tried a CRM before and walked away frustrated.Timestamps:00:00 - Brannon Poe intro and podcast welcome 00:14 - Introducing Kristen McGarr, founder of Adroit Insights and CRM Growth 00:57 - Kristen's core belief: the future of CRM is humanity, not more technology 01:17 - Why most CRM implementations fail: adoption and overcomplicated configuration 02:07 - The demo trap: why what you see is rarely the off-the-shelf product 02:47 - Most firms use only 10 to 20% of their CRM's actual functionality 03:03 - Where AI fits into CRM today and why it shouldn't be trusted 100% 03:56 - Signs a CPA firm is ready to scale versus needing to fix its foundation first 04:17 - Why consistency and predictability matter more than fast growth 05:02 - How predictable, even revenue throughout the year affects accounting firm valuation 05:48 - The tax season surge and dip problem and how to create more consistency around it 06:05 - Why business development gets dropped during busy season and how to fix that 06:37 - The growth-ready system: templated outreach that still sounds like you 07:49 - How to automate personalized outreach without doing it manually every time 08:21 - Why spacing out outreach matters more than frequency 08:41 - Turning client education into shareable case study content for prospects 09:17 - The three R's: renewals, referrals, recent conversations 09:36 - Renewals: how to spot recurring revenue opportunities in your existing client base 09:53 - Referrals: why sending referral emails during busy season is low effort, high return 10:26 - Recent conversations: catching the tax planning and advisory needs you rolled past 11:09 - The irony of tax season: it's your busiest time and your biggest pipeline opportunity 11:31 - Why a transactional accounting firm cannot function well without a CRM 11:53 - Kristen's three-part CRM checklist: integrations, reporting, and flexibility 13:06 - Funny story: the vendor lesson that led to building an internal team 14:22 - Why trusting your gut early on a bad vendor fit saves time and money later 14:55 - How building an internal team improved client satisfaction across the firm 15:29 - Why picking technology vendors is especially hard for relationship-focused accountants 15:55 - The value of trusted resources and networks when evaluating new tools 16:11 - Book recommendation: "Never Split the Difference" by Chris Voss 17:09 - Where to find Kristen: LinkedIn and CRMgrowth.comBook Recommendation: Never Split the Difference by Chris Voss

What if loving something (your country, your work, your own self-image) actually requires being brutally honest about its flaws? In this encore episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Dr. Dolly Chugh, social psychologist, behavioral scientist, and bestselling author, to unpack why our brains are wired for consistency instead of objectivity, and how guilt and shame can become engines for real growth. They get into the "psychology of good people," the trap of the flawless narrative, and what it takes to keep getting better instead of defending a story that no longer fits. It's a conversation about replacing brittle perfection with something far more durable. Here's what you'll learn: Why a "good person" is a fragile identity, and what to build instead How to give a real apology that actually resets the relationship What the "long time ago illusion" is, and how it distorts your judgment The version of yourself you're defending might be the thing holding you back. This one will make you rethink it. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:02:48) Becoming a psychologist (00:05:29) The psychology of good people (00:07:29) No one is good all the time (00:09:02) Canceling and growth (00:14:52) Home team bias (00:17:09) The gritty patriot (00:20:40) Guilt vs. shame (00:29:52) The "long time ago" illusion (00:35:32) What makes an apology work (00:36:53) George Takei's story (00:41:13) Being a game changer ---- Links & Resources: A More Just Future by Dr. Dolly Chugh Dr. Dolly Chugh Grit by Angela Duckworth The Power of Us by Jay Van Bavel and Dominic Packer Mindset by Carol Dweck Caste: The Origins of Our Discontents by Isabel Wilkerson George Takei Little House on the Prairie by Laura Ingalls Wilder Buffalo Soldier by Bob Marley ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 330. Jay Van Bavel - Bias, Belonging, and the Battle for Truth 275. Kim Scott - The Power of Radical Respect 121. Ben Crump - Speaking Truth to Power: The Fight for Social Justice in America

If your team has stopped challenging you, that's not alignment, it's a warning sign. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill unpack what really happens when decisiveness turns into dismissiveness. From ignored warnings and bad assumptions to ego-driven leadership and the cost of fake collaboration, Michael breaks down why strong leaders don't just make decisions fast, they stay open to what they're not seeing. Here's what you'll learn: Why decisiveness can become dangerous when you stop listening to the people closest to the work How to create a culture where your team brings you hard truths before problems explode What it takes to hold strong opinions without letting ego override better ideas and better data If you want better decisions, stop acting like your perspective is the only one that matters. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:03:55) Q1: Decisive without dismissive (00:04:31) Ego is the real blind spot (00:07:52) Q2: Don't train your team to be silent (00:09:09) Worry about what you can't see (00:09:48) Strong opinions, loosely held (00:12:56) Q3: When input is just theater (00:15:29) Give people a chance to fail (00:16:06) Why great ideas come from the team (00:17:57) Outro ---- Links & Resources: “Strong opinions, loosely held” (Paul Saffo) First principles thinking ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 433. Everything You Need To Know to Overhaul Your Firm's Culture with Cy Wakeman 389. AMMA - Stop Fixing $5 Problems and Start Solving $1M Ones 158. Alex Hormozi - The Power of Humility in Achieving Entrepreneurial Success

What if everything you believe about your brain inevitably slowing down with age is simply wrong, and you have far more control than you ever imagined? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with neuroscientist, performance coach, and self-described "elite-level professional nerd" Dr. Tommy Wood to dismantle the myth that cognitive decline is destiny. Drawing on his work treating brain injury, advising Formula 1 drivers, and his new book, “The Stimulated Mind,” Dr. Wood lays out a simple framework for keeping your brain sharp at any age, and explains why the small, daily inputs matter far more than you think. For high performers running hard and recovering little, this is the wake-up call your brain has been waiting for. Here's what you'll learn: Why your brain can adapt and improve at any age, and how your expectations alone can change the outcome How to apply the three-S model (stimulus, supply, support) to protect cognitive function for life What it takes to use AI as a tool that sharpens your skills instead of quietly eroding them Your brain is not on a fixed downward path, and this episode is your blueprint for proving it. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:02:27) Becoming a Neuroscientist (00:05:32) What Is a Healthy Brain? (00:07:56) Does Aging Slow You Down? (00:11:30) The 3-S Model for Brain Health (00:17:59) Shifting the Aging Mindset (00:22:40) The Minimum Effective Dose (00:28:16) Does AI Make You Dumber? (00:36:59) Learning Faster as an Adult (00:42:38) Why Your Brain Needs Connection (00:49:56) Inside the Minds of F1 Drivers (00:55:42) Where to Start (00:57:48) Being a Game Changer ---- Links & Resources: The Stimulated Mind: Future-Proof Your Brain from Dementia and Stay Sharp at Any Age by Tommy Wood Why Brains Need Friends by Ben Rein Hintsa Performance ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 461. Mastering Biological Fundamentals for Elite Performance with Dr. Kristen Holmes 364. How to Train Your Brain for Unbelievable Success 116. Steven Kotler - Harnessing Neuroscience for Peak Performance

Most business owners think winning more business means lowering prices. It doesn't. In this episode of the Idaho Business Podcast, we break down how to attract better leads, run professional customer walkthroughs, negotiate with confidence, and win more contracts without sounding salesy. Learn practical strategies from experts like Chris Voss and Marcus Sheridan that help you build trust, stand out from competitors, and become the obvious choice for customers. Whether you're in service, retail, construction, or B2B sales, these principles can help you close more deals and grow your business. If you are feeling the love, make sure to subscribe, rate, and review on iTunes, Spotify, YouTube, or wherever you are!! If you'd like to be featured on an episode go to theidahobusinesspodcast.com to APPLY! Apple Podcasts Spotify YouTube

Keith Weinhold explores why your greatest investment might actually be in yourself.  He's joined by Daniel Thomas Hind, an elite executive coach and former COO who works privately with seven- and eight-figure entrepreneurs and real estate investors to rebuild their health, sharpen their thinking, and strengthen their leadership.  He shares success stories, including Terry Kerr's transformation, and encourages listeners to apply for his private coaching to achieve uncommon results. Together they unpack how high achievers slip into burnout, sacrifice their well-being and relationships, and unintentionally create company cultures shaped by their own unresolved habits. Episode Page: GetRichEducation.com/611 For access to properties or free help with a GRE Investment Coach, start here: GREmarketplace.com GRE Free Investment Coaching: GREinvestmentcoach.com Get mortgage loans for investment property: RidgeLendingGroup.com or call 855-74-RIDGE  or e-mail: info@RidgeLendingGroup.com Invest with Freedom Family Investments.  For predictable 10-12% quarterly returns, visit FreedomFamilyInvestments.com/GRE or text  FAMILY to 66866  Unlock truly passive real estate income—visit flockhomes.com/GRE today to see if your properties qualify for a 721 exchange with Flock Homes. To get in the best physical, mental, and professional shape of your life, go to DanielThomasHind.com and apply for Daniel's intensive 1-on-1 coaching for burnt-out entrepreneurs and executives. Will you please leave a review for the show? I'd be grateful. Search "how to leave an Apple Podcasts review"  For advertising inquiries, visit: GetRichEducation.com/ad Best Financial Education: GetRichEducation.com Get our wealth-building newsletter free— GREletter.com  Our YouTube Channel: www.youtube.com/c/GetRichEducation Follow us on Instagram: @getricheducation Complete episode transcript:   Keith Weinhold  0:01   Welcome to GRE. I'm your host, Keith Weinhold. On this investing show, it's been a long time since we've discussed investing in yourself. We do that today with an amazing guest on Get Rich Education.   Keith Weinhold  0:15   Since 2014 the powerful Get Rich Education podcast has created more passive income for people than nearly any other show in the world. This show teaches you how to earn strong returns from passive real estate investing in the best markets without losing your time being the flipper or landlord. Show host Keith Weinhold writes for both Forbes and Rich Dad Advisors and delivers a new show every week. Since 2014 there's been millions of listener downloads in 188 world nations. He has a list show guests and key top selling personal finance author Robert Kiyosaki. Get rich education can be heard on every podcast platform, plus it has its own dedicated Apple and Android listener phone apps. Build wealth on the go with the Get Rich Education podcast. Sign up now for the Get Rich Education Podcast, or visit getricheducation.com    Keith Weinhold  1:04   You know, Mid South Home Buyers, that top Memphis turnkey provider. I learned that a secret weapon behind their explosive growth is more than just you buying their properties, it's an executive coach. For nine years now, their CEO, Terry Kerr, and his COO, Pat Nix have worked privately with a coach who I've now learned from too, and he doesn't market himself online anywhere. After 12 years behind the scenes, that coach is now making himself available exclusively for GRE listeners. His name is Daniel Thomas Hind. If you're a hard-charging business owner or investor who wants to get in the best shape of your life, physically, mentally, and professionally. You can fill out an application for a free consult. This is private one on one coaching for those willing to go to uncommon lengths to achieve uncommon results. Thanks to Daniel, we've all become better leaders, better operators and better men. It started by showing up for ourselves. Now it's your turn. Go to Daniel Thomas hind.com H I N D, that's Daniel Thomas hind.com and sign up before Spotsville Flock Homes helps multifamily owners exit the operator grind, whether it's your six plex or a 50 unit apartment, through a 721 exchange. This defers your capital gains tax. It's a strategy long used by institutions. Now you can swap tenants and toilets for passive income and zero management. Request your initial valuations. See if your property qualifies at flcokhomes.com/gre that's F L O C K homes.com/G R E.   Speaker 1  2:50   You're listening to the show that has created more financial freedom than nearly any show in the world. This is Get Rich Education.   Keith Weinhold  3:06   Welcome to GRE from Rome, New York to Rome, Oregon, and across 188 nations worldwide. I'm Keith Weinholder. You're listening to Get Rich Education. Your hardest opponent out there is rarely the market, the economy, your boss, or even your schedule, your opponent is the part of you that knows what to do and still hesitates to do it. You are your own biggest obstacle, and deep down you know it. I know this about myself too. We all keep sort of choosing familiar frustration over unfamiliar progress, a personal stay in the same bad routine, same underperforming relationship, same cluttered inbox, same poor money habit, or same low energy pattern, not because you love it, but because it's predictable and it's safe. Growth, though, requires a new identity. Staying stuck only requires repetition, and we all know how to do that already. You delay asking for the sale, or you delay asking the attractive woman out, and you justify that by telling yourself, oh, you're still refining the strategy, but deep down you know that the real issue is discomfort. We're talking about the skills that build yourself today, perhaps somewhat like we did in two episodes with Chris Voss. When you learned how to be a good negotiator, one thing I've learned from today's guest is about culture. Culture is governed by what you tolerate at your company. Do you have a policy? Where you've got to reply to an email within 24 hours. Well, if you start tolerating 48 hour replies, you've tolerated less, and that becomes the new culture. And it also shows that you're going to let other policies slide too. If you let this one slide, do you expect your property manager to physically inspect your unit every six to 12 months, that's something I kind of like. Well, then don't tolerate anything less than that. And parenting is all about tolerance. I'm going to ask our guest about that. I'm also going to ask, how would you even know when you're burnt out at work? What are the hard signs to look for. How would you even know? Another thing that I want to ask about is how he discusses that you are the way that you are because of the shape that you took when you were under pressure. But I want to start by talking about health, and then transitioning. Today's guest talks in a way where you know, at least once today, I'm pretty sure you're going to say to yourself, gosh, it sounds like he's talking about me. It's been the most interesting thing.    Keith Weinhold  6:16   Earlier this year, I learned that a lot of top business owners, including some that you've heard here on the show, have had their life transformed, including pretty explosive growth in their business from working with an executive coach. And then I learned from them all, oh, it's the same guy, it's the same coach. I discovered that he's helping a lot of hard-charging business owners and investors basically get in the best shape of their life, physically, mentally, professionally. He's been especially good with types that burn out. He's also the founder of something called The Apprenticeship, where he helps corporate professionals become pro coaches. In a former life, he was a COO who helped grow a fast-scaling company tenfold, and today he's a marathon runner. He's also a literary novelist working on his second book, and since I met him in person in California recently, I've learned from him too. So I'm pleased to announce that we have this sort of secret weapon behind so many people on the show today. Welcome to GRE, Daniel Thomas Hind,   David Thomas Hind  7:22   Keith. Thank you. That's one heck of an introduction. Hi, I'm gonna have to save that and bring it with me. That's very kind of you to say, and it's a pleasure to be here.   Keith Weinhold  7:31   Oh, you're like, gosh, I can't possibly live up to that now. For those in the audio, only Hind is spelled H I N D, you know, Daniel, I'm happy to have you, because I know, and I've learned that you just really don't market yourself much, frankly, because you don't have to. You just sort of get these organic referrals from people that you already coach, but you do have a website, and it's just uncanny how, when I visited your site, people are doing video testimonials, and I'm like, oh, I know that person, and I know that person, but these people hadn't told me about you for so long, and Daniel, I think when it comes to making the best version of ourselves, or at least moving that way, we talk about wealth building on this show an awful lot, but that has quite an intersection with health.   David Thomas Hind  8:19   Yeah, it does, so my philosophy is first and foremost that health is wealth, right? It's a cliche, but so often hard-charging executive types, whether those are business owners or members of a leadership team, founders, or investors, so often these types of folks, because they're so passionate, they're so driven by the thing that they're working on, that they're building, that they'll often let other things in their life go, and sometimes it's just a season, but often, more often than not, at least with the people that I work with, and see that season turns into many seasons, turns into years, turns into a pattern, right? And it becomes this pattern, this ingrained way of being that, unless gone unchecked, can really cause problems in the long run, and so a lot of people don't exactly know what executive coaching is, and it can mean many different things for many different people. For me, it really is the intersection of your physical well-being, which, of course, includes your diet, your fitness, your nervous system, the health of your nervous system, your sleep quality, it has to do with the way that you organize and structure your days, right? So many of us just enter into a default way of doing life, and we don't. Creatures of habit,   Keith Weinhold  9:55   Yeah   David Thomas Hind  9:56   We're creatures of habit, and for successful people, those habits have helped us succeed and get to where we are, but because of that, we often don't stop and think, well, is this actually serving me anymore, or has some of these habits that used to be healthy and good for me, have they kind of metastasized into something not so healthy, maybe even dangerous or destructive, and then for these sort of people who I'm working with, right, many of them are at the top of organizations, and so these habits, these ingrained ways of being, might seep out and filter out into the company culture, into how we interact with people below us, right, and so my work is an intersection of personal health, personal development, business health, business development company culture, and so we're looking at the leader, the founder, how he shows up for himself in life, how he shows up for others, and how that defines the world around him, that he is usually, or she doesn't have to be, he, he, or she is usually at the center of, right, and so it's quite profound, because I get to be as intimately involved with people I really respect, people who have accomplished so much and who hold themselves to such high standards, and still want more, still know that there's better, still know that there's so much of themselves that they can improve upon, right? So I get a really meaty, holistic, complete inside look of these people's lives and their businesses, and so I get to work in like many businesses at once with incredible people. I'm very blessed and very lucky.   Keith Weinhold  11:37   Well, when it comes to one not having their health, I know a lot of times you told me about how you have a quote successful person, but they're successful in business, not their health. I think a lot of it comes down to one's mental conditioning, even from when they were substantially younger, shaping our worldview. I think a lot of people are programmed with this, I'm supposed to be X, I'm supposed to get this degree within 10 years. I'm supposed to be executive level with a corner office, and I'm supposed to have an eight figure net worth by that age. You know, not that all of these are bad things individually. In fact, it could be a reflection that you're contributing to society, but you know, it's sort of, are you overweighted toward professional accomplishments? Is this program supposed to stuff that you got from somewhere, the stuff that's making you unbalanced and ultimately unfulfilled. So, really, it's the success in one area comes at the expense of what? That's how I think about it. And I know you have a number of stories of helping people with just this,   David Thomas Hind  12:40   I do. And so, let me first comment on the pattern that you're describing, and then I'll, yeah, that I think the best way to really talk about is to show what that looks like in an actual example, so it's it's this shape you took under pressure concept is is a concept that I talk about with all of my clients, so every successful entrepreneur that I know has developed a specific psychological structure that they've adopted to help them survive in the early years, right, when it was just them, or maybe them and their partner, and they were going for it, they were relentless, they were acting with an insane sense of urgency, an inability to sit still. Everything felt at risk, and they really had to sacrifice basically everything else to make this thing happen. It's not the case of everybody, but most people that I know who have accomplished a lot, that they share a similar origin story, and it was like go all in for five years, forget everything else, kind of thing.    Keith Weinhold  13:39   Exactly.   David Thomas Hind  13:40   It looks like some version of that, and so for the ones who succeed and make it through that phase, that's incredible, but you know the cliche is what got you here won't get you there. It's like when by operating that way you have adopted specific ways of being, psychological patterns, ways of relating to other people, beliefs about yourself, and beliefs about, like, how unreliable other people can be, and it can really turn into a dangerous operating system when you have to start building a team and training that team and relying on that team, and then creating a shared team culture, right, a company culture, it's not just like silly exercises that you put like on the wall, like these are our values, doing like trust falls backwards, like a culture is the behaviors that you take on, and like the uniform that you put on that everybody on the team has bought into, right, and so unfortunately, most cultures are shaped by the leadership team's worst qualities, because those qualities are the things that, like, we don't hold together, right? Like, if it's this person who lashes out because somebody doesn't get it, a media. The perfect example of somebody who really has embodied all parts of the coaching, from health to your inner psychology and mindset, and how that impacts your business health and your team and the corporate culture, is my client Terry Kerr. He is the founder of Mid South Home Buyers, and I know that Terry's been a guest on this show a number of times. What an incredible person. I've had the pleasure of working with Terry for close to 10 years now, and I've been working with his COO for close to eight years as well. So, I've gotten a real inside look at that team, and Terry, when he came to me, had let go of parts of himself that he had always held sacred, which was his health and his wellness. Long story short, we started working together. I helped him redesign the way that his life was constructed, pretty much no surprise, everything about his day was oriented towards business, from the second that he woke up to the second that he went to bed. So we really re-architected, we put a lot of intentionality into re-architecting the flow of his day, so that he can make sure that he's prioritizing other parts of himself and his family, his personal health, etc.    David Thomas Hind  13:40   Over time, he lost, I think, that first year he lost something like 60 pounds. He took on meditation as a practice. He started exercising daily, and Terry was a skateboarder growing up, so he was always, yeah, he was big into fitness and in his own ways, and just had let it go for the sake of the company, because for years it was just him building this thing, and most people would say, "Wow, I've done it, like I'm successful, I overcame these things that were weighing me down, and we're done here, but Terry was so opened up by the experience that he wanted to keep going, and he didn't even know what that meant, but over time he's invited me into the way that he operates. Period. As a leader, making decisions for his business, how does he interact with his employees, with his leadership team, so I've effectively become like the inside man, basically become like an AI, but a person who you can run decision making through, right? So, as to check those parts, those impulses, those impulsive parts of ourselves that just like want to do something, I've become like a check for him, so we're communicating on a daily basis. What are the most important things that we need to accomplish today? Are we making sure that you're spending time with your family? Are we making sure that you're getting your exercise in? Is your assistant organizing your food and dinners and everything else for you? Where are you going out to restaurants?   David Thomas Hind  17:59   Right, it's that level of intentionality of being part of almost every decision that over time, like at first we have to put a lot of attention into, because we're building new habits and we're breaking old ones, but over time these become ingrained and then we can start to take on new projects, new habits and routines and ways of being that we want to basically program, and so over these past 10 years, the company has absolutely exploded, and I'm not going to say that it's because of me, but I am going to say it's because Terry has taken on personal growth and growth in general as a vocation, and not allowing his own stops and blocks get in the way of the company going where it needs to go, and so over that time they've really changed the leadership structure. They've let a lot of people who weren't cultural fits go. They have assembled an entire leadership team now below the owners who have a lot more responsibility, whereas everything used to just go right up to the owners, and, and they were pretty much deciding on everything. So we really created a structure, a culture. We've let people go who no longer fit. We brought new people in who do, and you know, I will say that it's a direct result of that level of intentionality and specificity that Terry brings to his day every day, and Terry has given me his blessing to talk about him, or else I would never reveal so much of a person's inner life and inner work like that. But it's just his story is such an inspiring one for me, and that is so cool to get to share with others.   Keith Weinhold  19:38   I'm glad that you checked with Terry, because as you're talking about this I'm thinking I better talk to Terry after this and ask him if this is okay, but it's been said that culture, including company culture, is not what you say or what you do, it's what you tolerate.   David Thomas Hind  19:54   Yeah, well, that's what we said before, is that most found. Treat culture as like an HR exercise, right. Meanwhile, the actual culture of the company is it's shaped by the leader's worst qualities, and so a lot of investors listening to this show probably have teams, whether it's property managers or assistants, contractors, partners, and your team's culture is a mirror of the parts of yourself that you haven't dealt with yet, right. And so it's really your responsibility to fix that. That is the job of the leader. You are at the top, everybody's looking at you. It's not a job for everybody. Most people would prefer not to have that level of attention, and even if you think that you want that level of attention, your true self, the part that wants to just like leave me alone and let me do my work, that part of you, to call it the child, call it the baser self, whatever you want to call it, doesn't want that attention, because it requires constant reinvention, constant opening yourself up to take this on, so yeah, your team's culture is a mirror of the parts of yourself that you haven't dealt with yet. If you fix the leader, you're going to fix the culture, and Mid South Home Buyers is a perfect example of that.   Keith Weinhold  21:18   Yes, this concept about the shape that you take under pressure,   David Thomas Hind  21:23   you don't know how to give yourself relief. So, here's another case in point. Like, this seems like such a simple fix, but you'd be surprised, because this is representative of a number of people that I work with. Like, Terry hadn't given himself an actual vacation in decades, so   Keith Weinhold  21:41   gosh,   David Thomas Hind  21:42   just taking a week or taking two weeks to go to Europe, which he and his wife do every year now.   Keith Weinhold  21:49   Yeah, I know they went to France not long ago.   David Thomas Hind  21:51   Yeah, that's representative of a maturation of the person who can trust that the team can take care of things, who can trust that the business isn't going to fall apart because he's not there at the center of it. You know, we form addictions with just being involved, having to read every email, making sure that we're involved in every conversation. Again, that's a sort of ingrained habit that you learn from the beginning, because it was just you. You did have to be involved in every conversation, if you weren't there, would be no thing to exist. There would be no business, right? But some people might not have a problem with this. I don't know those people. Most people I do know have a real problem with letting go, with changing, with maturing with the company as it demands, so that you're not just bleeding yourself dry day in and day out, right. So, physical burnout, cognitive decline, relationship decline, or let's call it numbing, leadership erosion, right? If you don't check these parts of yourself, all this stuff that you've worked so hard to build, this incredible life that you have assembled, and your accomplishments, they start to whittle away, so that level of identity crisis is on the table if you don't check these parts of yourself, and so I don't want to sound like doom and gloom, but I am describing the costs of success. These are actually typical for people who get to the very top, and the thing is that there aren't a lot of people at the very top, so you don't really want to talk about it. It sounds ungrateful, or term I like to call champagne problems, right? Like, oh, look at the multimillionaire be upset because he has to work so much, right? It's like nobody really is going to have sympathy for that, so you're not going to parade that around, but you know these people are people too, and everybody needs outlets, and everybody needs to express themselves, and everybody can change the way that life is, so again, that's where I come in.   Keith Weinhold  23:49   Yes, at some point a leader has got to back off and tell themselves if it gets done 95% of the way that I would have gotten it done, but it doesn't take any of my time, that could very well be a win, and then they're probably not going to be deemed as wearing the micromanagement hat all the time either. 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I learned about an executive coach that's behind the success for a number of guests that we've had here on the show. It's just been uncanny at how he's transformed others' lives. And since meeting him in person earlier this year, I've now learned from him too. And you know, Daniel, one of the things I learned about that I didn't know before is some people can get burnt out so bad that not only is it messing with their physical health and it's derailing their relationships, but burnout can actually create cognitive decline and more problems. So, first of all, How can one identify when they've reached the burnout point? How will they know? Yeah,   David Thomas Hind  27:00   that's a great question. Obviously, it doesn't come in a one size fits all, but it usually follows this sort of pattern, right? Let's say you've got the portfolio, you've got the cash flow, you've got things are working on paper, you should be happy, right? On paper, you are living some version of the dream that you told yourself 510 15 years ago. However, it doesn't feel that way. You feel worse than you did ever before, or at least within the past recent memory.   Keith Weinhold  27:35   Yeah, that's amazing.   David Thomas Hind  27:36   So that's the place to start looking. Look, everybody has seasons of just, you gotta go through it, something happens, you need to work really hard, you need to bust it, and that's fine. I'm not talking about direct tiredness or exhaustion. What I'm talking about is more of like an existential.. what's like, why is this not feeling the way I hoped it would? Right, I sacrificed everything for this, for xyz, whatever xyz is, and I have xyz, but it feels so empty, or I just, I can't appreciate it, or I'm always on to the next thing. Yeah, and all of this I'm going to call is some version of burnout, because what that means is that you're not able to actually appreciate your life that you've worked so hard for, and so for some it's like this never-ending fascination with the next, the future constant needing to build, and there's nothing wrong with that, but it comes from almost more of like an addictive place, like you're addicted to making things happen, you can never slow down, and underneath it all, there's actually no real joy or satisfaction. It's pure adrenaline, it's pure cortisol, and we like the cortisol bump when it's like, you know, we're feeling it, we're just going for it, we're getting it, but there is going to be a day where that flips upside down, and the exhaustion is almost impossible, because you don't know how to achieve satisfaction other than through sheer output. It's like a marathon runner who can never stop running, like literally never, right? You're just, you're running 20 hours a day, you can't get the high, unless you're crushing yourself, and so that's one form of burnout. Another form of burnout is just I don't have the juice anymore. It's actually experiencing the other side of your nervous system shutting down. It's your body can't produce the raw materials to have you primed and ready to go anymore, so whether that's a hormonal issue, whether that's a cortisol issue, whether you have heart problems, the body keeps the score. So a lot of people that I work with, we're going to have to do a lot of health optimization, working on their diet, their sleep patterns. Patterns, exercise, getting their hormones dialed in, micronutrients, maybe peptides. There's a lot of things that we need to do to rehabilitate the system, because they're just wrecked. When your nervous system is that mainlined for years, it wrecks you in a way that leaves you just totally empty, and it's not like, oh, you know, going on a vacation and getting extra sleep is going to fix this. No, this is like, you need months and months of targeted repair. It doesn't mean that you're completely useless, you can't be working, but what I am saying is you're going to need to reprioritize. Priority means number one, right? So, what are your priorities? As we've been discussing today, it's clear that the sort of person that I work with, and if this is at all resonating with you, the listener, the sort of person that you are, is somebody who is so focused on your mission, you do feel the sense of mission, you are so goal-oriented, and that's the best part of life, is you wake up every day and you know what you want and you're going for it, and I would never want to change that about anybody who has that, because I think we're all looking for that at the end of the day. That is the sweet spot of life. When you have found that thing and you're going for it, my job is never to make that wrong. My job is to actually support the human being who is operating on that level to make sure that they can stay on that level, right, so without doing that, the problem is that you actually lose the thing that you love the most, you lose the joy, you lose the energy for it. I mean, I've worked with people who are on the cusp of selling their business simply because the weight of having to wake up every day and go in and work with others and like, lead the ship.   David Thomas Hind  31:42   It just felt so overbearing, because no surprise, this person had gone 20 years without actually taking care of themselves. They were 60 pounds overweight, they were not sleeping, they were getting maybe five hours of sleep a night. You know, the culture has changed online over the past few years, which is a good thing, but a lot of people used to wear, you know, I don't sleep at all as like a badge of honor, right? Again, this person's marriage was on the ropes. They weren't spending time with their children. They'd become a shell of a person who were just who was miming their normal life. They was just, they were kind of pantomiming normal life. They were going through it, but they weren't really there. And the weights, think about it like this. When you're tired, when you get a bad night of sleep, like a really bad night of sleep, or maybe, God forbid, two nights of bad sleep in a row, every little thing that next day is grating, right? Yeah, the person who cuts you off, it just.. it's that much more annoying, right? That meeting that was supposed to happen, the person has to cancel, and it's like, oh my god, I just.. my whole day was centered around this. How, how selfish of them, right? Everything becomes that much more grating. So, imagine that times 10 years, 15 years, 20 years, right? The weight of everything feels so impossible that they can't hold it together anymore, and so I know a lot of people who have fantasized about selling their business, the thing that they, you know, which is like so paradoxical, because it's not, it's not that they need to sell it, it's not that that was actually even a goal, it's just that they can't imagine themselves having to do this any longer, and they, for whatever reason, they have blinded themselves from seeing that there's another way, it doesn't have to be this way, but it does take work, and that's a problem, because upstream of this, you ask me, what is a sign of burnout? A sign of burnout is saying, oh my god, I can't do anything about this, it's as hopeless, right? This is like a hopeless feeling, so it's not hopeless, and especially for somebody like that, for the sort of person that we're talking about, you're actually more resourced than most people on the planet to take this on,   Keith Weinhold  33:46   like they say, when you have health, you can want everything, when you don't have health, you only want one thing, and yeah, how people can be prevented from getting into that condition by avoiding burnout, some people have such an identity crisis that you know they don't know who they are outside the business, and they would kind of be terrified to find out, maybe that's another sign that you're burned out and you need some help, but you know finding life balances is sort of a tricky word, there are sort of supporters and detractors of the whole life balance school of thought too, but you know, Daniel, one thing I found interesting is, I asked you, how you ever got into coaching, and how you do this, and, like, you know, how you have the aptitude to even help a person go become a coach, and I know you told me that it sort of happened organically, you started helping out friends, and then it really grew into something where you help people professionally.   David Thomas Hind  34:43   Yeah, so health is clearly my primary focus. It has been for years, and I started as a health and wellness coach 1213 years ago. It wasn't something that I designed, I didn't say this is going to be the thing that I. Do with my life, it just sort of happened. I had always been very health conscious. Well, I have been since my 20s, I should say. I actually grew up a fat kid, so I have that ingrained in me, and I think that that shaped a lot of the person that I became later on, which is probably a story for another time. But since my early 20s, I've been very health focused, health conscious, and people took notice of that, and became part of my identity. And after graduating from college, a few years out, a lot of my friends went into Wall Street. They were working 18 hour days, literally sleeping at the office, and started reaching out for help. So I started making guides for them, and then I realized no, they actually need more personal attention, because there's an accountability factor. A lot of people know intellectually what to do, but it's the behavioral, it's the following through with it. It's yeah, but it's 10pm and I'm exhausted, and I have three more hours to go to get this project done, and all I want to do is like shove junk food in my mouth, right? It's those moments where your intellect completely goes away, and that primal overdrive takes over. So I started shaping myself into somebody who became extremely available for my clients, where I really thought of myself as a partner in their daily experience, and part of my role is to give them the information, but most of the time these people are actually the experts of their own lives, so like I couldn't tell a surgeon how to do his work or her work, right? And that's not my role, but my role can be to be a partner in their life experience, to make sure that they're following through with their intentions.    David Thomas Hind  36:38   These people hold themselves to very high standards. Are you following through with that? How are we making your goals achievable on a daily basis? So, let's think about the long term, the medium term, the week term, and then the daily term, right? What are the rocks that we're moving this month, this week, today, actually being able to share all these things? Right, talking about the hard things, this thing happened at work when it came to food and health coaching, like, you know, I just want to go and blow off steam and go to the club tonight, or go drinking with my friends, or whatever, and you know, having somebody to actually talk that through with, to make sure that, yeah, but how is that going to impact tomorrow, and this other thing that you said you wanted to accomplish, right? So, as a young man I had no training going into any of this other than my own fascination with health, my own health transformation and journey in my early 20s, but this call it menage of personal growth, routine building, habit building, psychological construct of why do we know better but do the opposite, why do we do things that are wrong for us, right? And then, how do we check that part of us and build new patterns? So, as I grew in my entrepreneurial journey, and as an operator, I started to incorporate what I was learning in the work with my clients, and I started to choose clients who were growth-oriented and who tended to be entrepreneurs and people who were building things or what then turned into members of leadership teams, etc. etc. etc. And yeah, it's been this symbiotic journey of my personal growth informs the work that I do with my clients and vice versa. And then, of course, over time I got more formal training and have never stopped trying to become better, so that I can really service my clients as well as possible.   David Thomas Hind  38:26   I mean, they put a lot of trust in this relationship, and from my side, I try to show up as the most powerful service provider they've ever experienced. I really think of myself as a partner, less of a coach, more of like a partner. I think of myself as like the COO of their life, I am extremely present for them. We're communicating throughout the day, through text, through voice memo. We do weekly calls.   David Thomas Hind  38:50   Yes, it was kind of funny, Daniel. I remember when I first asked, what your coaching style was like? Like, ask if you do a weekly email or a Zoom call with those people. Yeah, I quickly learned, oh no, it's not like that at all.    David Thomas Hind  39:02   No, we're in the trenches together. Anybody on the outside of your life wouldn't necessarily know that I'm there on your team, I'm on the phone behind the screen, but it's because I want this to be as private of an experience as possible. So, full confidentiality, this is very private. I become somebody that you can share the like scariest, worst, most vulnerable parts of yourself, not judge you and help you turn those into strengths. I feel like I said, we're game planning just about every day together, and really, I give as much energy as you're gonna give, so somebody who is resistant to this sort of work, you're not going to get a lot out of it. I can't force anything, because it's not like I'm in the room with you, right? We are communicating digitally, but I do try to make myself as present in your life as possible, because a lot of people at the top don't have a lot of people. That they trust, you know, they're always providing for other people, they don't provide for themselves as much, they let themselves go. So to have somebody who's giving that back to them can be very, very, very, very, very life affirming and life giving. And yeah, I feel like I have the best job in the world that really nobody knows about, that I couldn't have possibly constructed or imagined for myself either. And it's like a very unique thing in the world, and I'm just so, so grateful that I, that I can do it.   Keith Weinhold  40:25   It is, it gets so personal. Yes, you're frequently texting and messaging people, and yeah, I mean, you must know a lot of information before that client's spouse even does in a lot of cases. Yeah, what an unusual and interesting thing to be doing. Well, Daniel, I hope it's not an imposition, but if you're still open to it, I know you mentioned before that you know that we haven't known each other all that long, but just based on our mutual friends that you would potentially offer private one on one coaching to GRE listeners, so if you're still open to that, tell us about it and what it takes to apply to work with you.   David Thomas Hind  41:00   Yeah, I appreciate that, and I do have spots available, so if anybody, thank you, listening today thought, wow, the way that he's speaking about his clients is how I feel about myself, right? Anything that I said, then I'd say you're a good candidate. So the best way to get in touch with me is just to go to my website, it's my full name, Daniel Thomas Hind, h i n d.com and you can fill out an application, and if you're a good fit, we'll get on a call, it's a free consultation, and on that call we talk about you, we talk about you, and I'm going to find out what it is that you actually want, what it is that's getting in the way, and how I might be able to serve, and that's the only way that we can work together. There's one offering, it's private one on one coaching, and it is an uncommon way to get extraordinary results. So I'm looking for people who believe that there's more, and if you lead with that, then you're gonna, you're gonna get what you want. So, yeah. For anybody who that resonates with, I would love to talk to you.   Keith Weinhold  42:10   Well, Daniel, this has been terrific. I think you said at least one thing that resonates with a lot of people, where they thought, oh my gosh, I can see myself with what he is describing right now, because we all have this gap between who we are and who we could be, the gap in the gain. If this is potentially of interest to you, yes. Thanks, Daniel. You can visit danielthomashind.com That's been great having you here on the show.   David Thomas Hind  42:36   Thanks, Keith. It's been a real pleasure, and it's been a pleasure getting to know you as well. So, more to come.    Keith Weinhold  42:47   The ideal person that Daniel helps is someone named Pierre. Pierre is between the ages of 38 and 50. He's either a tech founder, agency owner, online business owner, real estate investor, or some other flavor of entrepreneur who has built a business doing 500k to 5 million plus a year and is taking home around 350k or more than that, and by every measure that other people use to judge a life, Pierre has won, and he knows it, that's part of what makes this so confusing for him, because Pierre's pain points are physical burnout, which Daniel and I talked about, cognitive decline from the burnout, and before I met Daniel, I didn't even know that burnout could cause cognitive decline, leadership erosion, a marriage on autopilot, where a marriage becomes just another thing that you're managing rather than living. Pierre's also got an identity crisis, and he's got success as the trap, because by every measure that other people use to judge a life, Pierre has won, and that's what makes a situation like this, so confusing, because see, he can't complain to anyone, since from the outside everything looks perfect. But here's what makes someone like Pierre coachable: he's a winner. He's always expected more of himself than anyone around him would dare to ask. He's someone who has never been satisfied with good enough, and he's always been willing to get uncomfortable to unlock the next level. He didn't build a multi million dollar business by accident. You build that by being relentless, being honest with yourself, and refusing to coast. And that same instinct is the reason that Pierre knows he needs coaching. He's not looking for someone to make him feel better about where he is. He's looking for someone to grab him by the shoulders and hoist him into the best version of himself that he knows is still in there. He wants a revamp, health, business, marriage, identity, creativity, purpose. The whole thing, he wants to feel like himself again, and he's willing to do whatever it takes to get there. Pierre's dream outcome is that 12 months from now, he is the healthiest, most creatively alive, highest agency version of himself that he's ever been. He runs the business on his terms, he has built or launched the thing that he's been sitting on for years. Maybe it's the new product, or maybe it's the book that he's always wanted to write. He's taking vacations with his family. He has a phone off policy from dinner time on, so that he's present and he knows who he is when he's not performing. In fact, there's very little performing because he's in flow and the magic is back, so Pierre really describes the journey. Big thanks to Daniel Thomas Hein.   Keith Weinhold  45:54    Today, so great to host him, considering that he rarely does public appearances like this. Next week, it'll be back to our core real estate content. Hey, and a thanks too to the amazing Terry Kerr, the founder of Mid South Homebuyers. He's such a giving guy that it's really no surprise that he would let his story be told for your benefit. So we got to talk about the part that you don't see here. What's behind a person as successful as a property provider to all these hundreds or 1000s of investors across the nation. If you think that performance coaching can help you, you can apply, but since it is highly personalized one on one coaching, he can only take a select few, but it's a rare opportunity. You can do so at Daniel Thomas hind.com and from there you can go on and talk about your favorite subject, which is talking about yourself with him. Until next week, I'm your host, Keith Weinold. Don't quit your daydream.   Speaker 1  46:58   Nothing. Nothing on this show should be considered specific personal or professional advice. Please consult an appropriate tax, legal, real estate, financial, or business professional for individualized advice. Opinions of guests are their own. Information is not guaranteed. All investment strategies have the potential for profit or loss. The host is operating on behalf of Get Rich Education LLC exclusively.    Keith Weinhold  47:24   The preceding program was brought to you by Your Home for Wealth Building, getricheducation.com

The work that drains you isn't a discipline problem. It's a sign you've been ignoring. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill dig into what happens when a firm owner's instincts no longer match what the business actually needs. Michael makes the case that the parts of the work you dread, the growth you can't seem to unlock, and the partner you keep clashing with are all pointing at the same thing: a truth about how you're built that you've been working around instead of working with. Here's what you'll learn: How to tell whether you're a visionary or an integrator, and why forcing yourself to be both will burn you out When optimizing a business that already works stops paying off, and what to do to actually grow it How to keep a partnership from breaking when you and your partner no longer share the same appetite for risk Stop white-knuckling the parts of your business that drain you and start building toward the version that doesn't. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:01:37) Family life & summer camp tales (00:07:49) Q1: Visionary or integrator? (00:11:53) Q2: Stuck at a revenue plateau (00:16:55) Q3: When partners stop aligning (00:21:30) Outro ---- Links & Resources: Rocket Fuel by Gino Wickman Walt Disney Roy Disney Deadliest Catch ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 452. AMMA - The Unexpected Truth About Happiness, Work Ethic, and Priorities 325. AMMA - Pressure, Priorities, and Progress: Mastering the Price of Success 47. Jessica Mogill - A Transformational Partnership: How Opposites Attract

Most people spend twenty years climbing a mountain, reach the top, and realize they never wanted the view. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Robert Glazer to break down why core values are the most underused tool in leadership. They get into where your values actually come from, why you can't coach them into the people you hire, and why most leaders are measuring their teams with the wrong scorecard entirely. If you've ever hit a milestone and felt nothing, this conversation explains why, and what to do about it. Here's what you'll learn: Why your core values were set early in life, and what it costs you to lead without knowing them How to hire for the values people actually live instead of the ones they perform in interviews What separates a real company core value from a poster on the wall nobody believes in The view from the top is only worth it if you picked the right mountain to climb. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:06:07) Where core values come from (00:07:11) Can your values change? (00:09:00) The car-in-a-tunnel analogy (00:11:35) Personal vs. company values (00:16:59) The big three life decisions (00:19:17) Why knowing isn't doing (00:21:25) The four capacities (00:27:36) Money, happiness, and “enough” (00:32:12) Biggest leadership mistakes (00:34:01) Spotting leadership potential (00:38:53) Rethinking the two-week notice (00:43:16) How success gets redefined (00:44:09) What it means to be a game changer ---- Links & Resources: The Compass Within by Robert Glazer Elevate by Robert Glazer The Go-Giver by Bob Burg Arthur Brooks Morgan Housel Traction by Gino Wickman ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 417 - The Secret to Building a Brand People Love with Steve Carse 338. Will Ahmed - From Stress to Success: Optimizing the Entrepreneurial Journey 251. Alex Hormozi - The Power of Humility in Achieving Entrepreneurial Success

Master Your Finances: Amber Duncan’s Debt-Free Strategies Unveiled Reducemydebts.com About the Guest(s): Amber Duncan is the founder of Life After Debt, a company dedicated to helping individuals manage their debt and improve their financial situations. Following personal and professional hardship during the 2008 housing collapse, where both her and her husband, then mortgage brokers, declared bankruptcy, Amber was inspired to create solutions for those affected by unexpected financial crises. As “The Debt Coach,” she is recognized for her empathetic approach and educates consumers on navigating debt through negotiation and leveraging their rights. Her mission is to reduce financial stress and build debt-free paths for her clients. Episode Summary: In this insightful episode of The Chris Voss Show, host Chris Voss welcomes Amber Duncan, founder of Life After Debt, for a conversation centered on debt management and financial empowerment. Having experienced financial collapse firsthand during the 2008 housing crisis, Amber offers a unique perspective and practical advice on managing debt and improving financial health. She emphasizes the importance of challenging financial norms, understanding the nuances of debt, and transforming one’s financial outlook through education and strategic actions. Amber Duncan discusses the frequent misconceptions surrounding taxes and debt, underscoring the notion that not every debt is inherently negative. During the episode, Amber also delves into how debt can sometimes be strategic, such as using low-interest loans for investments. She sheds light on prevalent issues like zombie debt and the significance of consumers knowing their rights. Through her work at Life After Debt, Amber encourages individuals facing financial challenges to seek help without shame or guilt, providing them with clarity and effective debt settlement strategies. Key Takeaways: * Financial challenges are often a result of unforeseen circumstances rather than poor financial management. Facing these challenges head-on with knowledge and support is crucial. * Not all debt is bad; understanding when and how to use debt strategically can lead to financial growth. * Consumers should always validate their debts and understand their rights, particularly with issues like zombie debt and debt collection harassment. * Filing taxes is legally required, but immediate payment is not; people should manage their tax obligations strategically. * A clarity call with a financial expert can significantly change one’s financial perspective and lead to effective debt resolutions. Notable Quotes: 1. “Not every debt is bad debt. It’s about knowing what to do with it, and when to have it, and when to get rid of it.” – Amber Duncan 2. “Everything in life is negotiable. And if that is the one message I want people to hear today, it’s that.” – Amber Duncan 3. “We have rights as consumers, and so if we activate those rights, and actually question and require things that we’re allowed to require, then at that point, guess what? We’re in the driver’s seat.” – Amber Duncan 4. “It’s that moment when I recognized that we have a universal problem right now, that we’re not extending help to those who are in situations they didn’t ask for.” – Amber Duncan 5. “People need to be educated that they can ask for things without feeling guilty. And they can fight things, and they can negotiate things.” – Amber Duncan

The most valuable thing you can build into your firm is its ability to run without you. In this AMMA episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill answer the questions most firm owners put off until it's too late. When should you really start succession planning? How do you pick a successor without letting loyalty override the right call? And how do you build something worth more than the income it generates while you're in it? Michael makes the case that a firm dependent on its owner is a firm that's quietly losing value, and he lays out what it takes to change that. Plus, he kicks things off with his favorite recent movies, shows, and books. Here's what you'll learn: Why succession planning should start at least five years out, and what happens when you wait until your back's against the wall How to separate the discomfort of a hard conversation from the decision that's actually right for the business What it takes to turn your firm into an asset that grows whether or not you show up If something happened to you tomorrow, would your firm survive without you? Build like the answer needs to be yes. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:01:48) Michael's Favorite Things (00:05:36) Books Worth Reading (00:10:07) How Early to Plan Succession (00:14:25) Loyalty vs. The Right Successor (00:18:38) Building a Firm Beyond Income (00:23:42) Outro ---- Links & Resources: Togo Altered Carbon Spider-Man Noir The Penguin Godzilla Minus One King Kong (2005) Fallout Not Just a Goof Thinking in Bets by Annie Duke Everything You Want Is on the Other Side of Hard by Ken Rideout Smile, or You're Doing It Wrong by Andy Glaze The Power of the Dog by Don Winslow The Cartel by Don Winslow The Border by Don Winslow We Are Legion (We Are Bob) by Dennis E. Taylor Project Hail Mary by Andy Weir Life Is Luck by John Morgan You Can't Teach Hungry by John Morgan You Can't Teach Vision by John Morgan ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 469. How to Turn Your Darkest Failures into Unstoppable Drive with Ken Rideout 455. From Addict to UltraRunner: The Ultimate Redemption Arc with Andy Glaze 320. John Morgan - Dream Big, Act Bold: Turning Visions into Reality

What if the same thing that nearly destroyed you is the reason you become unstoppable? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Ken Rideout, world champion marathoner, former Wall Street trader, and recovering addict whose life reads like a story most people wouldn't believe. From a rough, blue-collar upbringing in Massachusetts to winning an ultramarathon across the Gobi Desert, Ken's path has been anything but linear. This conversation digs into how grit actually gets built, why money never filled the void he expected it to, and what it takes to bet on yourself when everyone around you says you can't. Here's what you'll learn: Why toughness isn't something you're born with, and how you can teach it to yourself Why money won't make you happier, even after going from broke to wealthy What it takes to turn a failure into the fire that drives everything after Ken built his comeback one decision at a time, and this episode shows you how to do the same. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:02:19) Why Ken wrote the memoir (00:04:33) A rough upbringing (00:07:49) Is hustle born or built? (00:09:23) The road to Wall Street (00:14:47) Money, watches, and insecurity (00:16:10) How addiction took hold (00:17:24) The constant struggle to stay sober (00:19:37) Why high achievers are wired differently (00:22:03) Finding endurance sports (00:24:24) Quitting the Ironman World Championships (00:32:10) The race across the Gobi Desert (00:39:15) How he defines success now (00:47:33) What it means to be a game changer ---- Links & Resources: Ken Rideout Everything You Want Is on the Other Side of Hard by Ken Rideout David Goggins Mitchell Hooper Darren Waller Mat Fraser Into Thin Air by Jon Krakauer Elon Musk Jeff Bezos Mark Zuckerberg ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 412. Why Doing Hard Things Is the Ultimate Advantage with Joe De Sena 170. Mat Fraser - The Fittest Man on Earth 141. David Goggins - Never Finished: Unshackle Your Mind and Win the War Within

The anger that fuels growth can become the thing that slows it down. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill answer three listener questions that reveal a pattern hiding beneath the surface of almost every high-achieving firm owner: the chip on the shoulder that fueled the climb is still there, long after the summit. From dark energy and manufactured adversity to betrayal, forgiveness, and the stories we carry from past partnerships, this episode unpacks how to evolve your fuel source without losing your edge. Here's what you'll learn: Why the dark energy that drives early success has a shelf life, and how to shift to a fuel source that doesn't cost you the people around you How to stop carrying past betrayal into your current relationships and reset your default to trust before it's broken Why rewriting the story of a painful falling out, through forgiveness and gratitude, is the move that actually sets you free You've already proven you can build something. This episode is about deciding who you're going to be while you keep going. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:06:46) Why No Friction Equals Unhappiness (00:08:37) Q1: When Anger Stops Fueling You (00:10:52) Letting Go of Proving Others Wrong (00:13:15) Q2: Carrying Past Betrayal Forward (00:19:25) Forgiveness Is for You, Not Them (00:20:10) Q3: When the Past Still Lingers (00:26:51) Choosing Friction Over Comfort ---- Links & Resources: The Infinite Game by Simon Sinek John Morgan Mike Tyson ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 407. AMMA - Why Playing It Safe Is the Most Dangerous Strategy 381. AMMA - The Hardest Mindset Shift for Law Firm Owners to Make 229. David Goggins - Never Finished: Unshackle Your Mind and Win the War Within

From TaskRabbit to Trailblazing VC: Leah Solivan’s Unprecedented Path Breakingprecedent.com Leahsolivan.com About the Guest(s): Leah Solivan is the trailblazing entrepreneur behind TaskRabbit, a platform that revolutionized the gig economy by allowing people to outsource small jobs and tasks. Recognized as one of Fast Company’s 100 most creative people in business, Leah is now making waves in venture capital as the founder of Precedent VC, a fund that focuses on AI-powered marketplaces. Beyond her pioneering efforts in business, she is an author and podcast host, with her upcoming book and podcast—both titled “Breaking Precedent”—aimed at highlighting leaders who are transforming their industries and societies. Episode Summary: In this engaging episode of The Chris Voss Show, host Chris Voss converses with Leah Solivan, a visionary in the startup and venture capital domain. Leah delves into her influential journey from founding TaskRabbit to her bold foray into venture capital with Precedent VC, which centers on investing in pioneering AI-powered marketplaces. An equally accomplished author and podcaster, Leah explains how her podcast, “Breaking Precedent,” evolved into a book filled with narratives from various societal leaders. This podcast episode becomes a revelation of entrepreneurship, innovation, and paving new paths in unprecedented times. Throughout the episode, Leah shares her insights on nurturing the entrepreneurial mindset, which she describes as being able to view common situations through a transformative lens—what she terms “vuja day.” Highlighting breakthroughs in AI technology as a modern-day inflection point reminiscent of the dawn of smartphones and social media, Leah discusses how the current technological landscape is redefining entrepreneurship, echoing the pivotal period of 2008. Leah’s inspiring anecdotes and motivational wisdom impart vital lessons in audacity, creativity, and adaptability for budding founders and seasoned entrepreneurs alike. Key Takeaways: Leah illustrates the profound potential AI has in revolutionizing consumer behavior and entrepreneurship, positing that now is an inflection point for groundbreaking business ideas. The origins of TaskRabbit and its eventual acquisition by IKEA reveal the strategic partnerships and market evolution possible in the gig economy. The genesis of Lyft, boosted by TaskRabbit, underscores how collaborative ideas can spur new business models and successes. Leah shares her concept of “vuja day,” encouraging individuals to view everyday experiences with innovative eyes, ready to disrupt conventional norms. Leadership and mentorship have been critical factors in Leah’s journey, driving her commitment to supporting new founders through her venture capital endeavors. Notable Quotes: “We live in a really exciting time if you look at it that way… everything right now is unprecedented.” “This concept of instead of deja vu… I talk about the opposite feeling, which is vuja day.” “In 2008 when all this was happening, I had just left a very cushy job at IBM. My parents thought I was insane.” “We are seeing habit formation happening. We are seeing the consumer mindset changing in real time.”

Elite performance does not come from chasing more hacks. It comes from knowing what matters, cutting what does not, and executing when conditions are not perfect. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Dr. Andy Galpin to break down what separates truly high performers from everyone else. From toughness and self-talk to sleep, strength training, and resilience, Dr. Galpin explains why better performance starts with fewer distractions and better constraints. Here's what you'll learn: Why toughness means producing even when the conditions are working against you How to identify the real constraints holding back your energy, focus, and performance What it takes to build resilience through sleep, strength training, and smarter recovery Stop chasing every new protocol. The people who perform at the highest level focus on what actually moves the needle. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:02:22) What elite performers do differently (00:06:09) Mental toughness and self-talk (00:15:38) Why adaptability beats optimization (00:21:59) What resilience actually means (00:29:19) Why most people fail to improve (00:32:27) Strength training and longevity (00:44:16) Health trends and wasted effort ---- Links & Resources: Dr. Andy Galpin Perform with Dr. Andy Galpin Rick Rubin Methylene blue VO2 max Zone 2 training Hyperbaric oxygen therapy Red light therapy ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 461. Mastering Biological Fundamentals for Elite Performance with Dr. Kristen Holmes 452. AMMA - The Unexpected Truth About Happiness, Work Ethic, and Priorities 435. The 15-Minute Habit That Prevents Attorney Burnout with Leah Lagos

Dr. Laura Sicola reveals why expertise alone won't get you heard — and the 3 Cs that turn knowledge into leadership influence. You've mastered your subject. You know your material cold. So why does the room glaze over when the stakes are highest? Cognitive linguist, executive coach, and author Dr. Laura Sicola says the gap isn't your expertise — it's the three inches between your brain and your mouth. In this episode of the Business of Story, she shares the framework that's helped Fortune 500 executives at Amazon and Kaiser Permanente stop sounding like spreadsheets and start commanding every room they walk into. Her TEDx Talk, "Want to Sound Like a Leader? Start by Saying Your Name Right," has nearly 7 million views — because the problem is universal and the fix is counterintuitive. WHAT YOU'LL DISCOVER IN THIS EPISODE The 3 Cs of Executive Presence: Command the Room, Connect with Your Audience, and Close the Deal — and why each requires a completely different skill  Why the movie playing in your head is never the movie your audience is watching — and how to close that gap before it costs you the deal  The neuroscience of humor: why a well-placed laugh creates dopamine, builds trust, and makes you more persuasive without sacrificing credibility  How to use Chris Voss's "labeling" technique to stay curious when conversations get triggered and defensive  The one counterintuitive move that makes you sound smarter, more likable, and more relatable — all at the same time ABOUT DR. LAURA SICOLA Dr. Laura Sicola is a cognitive linguist, former professor, and executive coach who helps leaders bridge the gap between their expertise and their influence. She is the author of Speaking to Influence: Mastering Your Leadership Voice and the founder of Vocal Impact Productions. Website: laurasicola.com LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/laurasicola Book: Speaking to Influence — available on Amazon in paperback ($12.95), Kindle ($9.95), and Audible (narrated by the author) FREE GIFT FROM DR. LAURA SICOLA Download two free chapters of Speaking to Influence here: [INSERT FREEBIE LINK] ABOUT THE BUSINESS OF STORY The Business of Story is the top-ranked podcast for leaders who use storytelling to grow their influence, their teams, and their organizations. Host Park Howell — known as the World's Most Industrious Storyteller — brings you the strategies, frameworks, and real-world lessons that turn communicators into leaders. Want to build a brand story that actually lands? Visit StoryCycleGenie.com to discover how the StoryCycle Genie® uses your brand's unique story to create marketing that moves people. SUBSCRIBE & LEAVE A REVIEW If this episode gave you one idea you can use today, please subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen. It takes 60 seconds and helps other leaders find the show.

“I've always had a voice, and I finally came into my own. And I've got my voice. And I love giving other people a voice.” – Adrienne BarkerToday's featured bookcaster is a mom, visibility strategist, etiquette educator, corporate speaker, and the creator of MannerShift™, Adrienne Barker. Adrienne and I had a fun on a bun chat about her books, converting podcast interviews into manuscripts, embracing servant leadership in your business, and more!Key Things You'll Learn:What inspired Adrienne to publish anthology booksHow she uses AI tools to create some of her booksHer experience getting certified in corporate etiquette and why it's crucial for professionals of all ages to have etiquetteThree major lessons she learned from starting, running, and growing her podcastsAdrienne's Site: https://adriennebarker.com/Adrienne's Books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B0C6H6RPW3/allbooksAdrienne's Podcast, “No Prep Needed LIVE Show”: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/adrienne-barker-speaks-no-prep-needed/id1736383646PodToBook.ai: https://podtobook.ai/The opening track is titled, “Unknown From M.E. | Sonic Adventure 2 ~ City Pop Remix” by Iridium Beats. To listen to and download the full track, click the following link. https://www.patreon.com/posts/sonic-adventure-136084016 Please support today's podcast to keep this content coming! CashApp: $DomBrightmonDonate on PayPal: @DBrightmonBuy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/dombrightmonGet Going North T-Shirts, Stickers, and More: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/dom-brightmonThe Going North Advancement Compass: https://a.co/d/bA9awotYou May Also Like…1007 – From Panic Attacks to Power Health Habits with Dr. Sandra Scheinbaum (@drscheinbaum): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-1007-from-panic-attacks-to-power-health-habits-with-dr-sandra-scheinbaum-drscheinbaum/#InvisibleNoMore - Lynda Sunshine West, Delores Garcia, Pamela Gort & Mary Elizabeth Jackson: https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/invisiblenomore-lynda-sunshine-west-delores-garcia-pamela-gort-mary-elizabeth-jackson/268 – 800% Your Life with Glenn Lundy (@GlennBLundy): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/268-800-your-life-with-glenn-lundy-glennblundy/Host 2 Host Special - Abundance Daily with Alex Dumas (@adumaswfg): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/host-2-host-special-abundance-daily-with-alex-dumas-adumaswfg/1079 – Gratitude in Adversity and Possibility Beyond Pain with Candice Snyder: https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-1079-gratitude-in-adversity-and-possibility-beyond-pain-with-candice-snyder/435.5 – Crushing the Fears of Becoming A Self-Published Author with Jeremy Sutton (@the_bookboss): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-4355-crushing-the-fears-of-becoming-a-self-published-author-with-jeremy-sutton-the_bookboss/462.5 – Beacons of Leadership with Chris Voss of The Chris Voss Show (@ChrisVossShow1): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-4625-beacons-of-leadership-with-chris-voss-of-the-chris-voss-show-chrisvossshow1/341.5 – Playful Cheeks with Dr. Alison J. Kay: https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-3415-playful-cheeks-with-dr-alison-j-kay-ajkbliss/273 – Rewiring Your Brain For Manifestation Success with Bob Doyle: https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/273-rewiring-your-brain-for-manifestation-success-with-bob-doyle-bobdoyle/967 – Life Lessons from a Jill of All Trades with Kristin Massey (@TheJOATbook): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-967-life-lessons-from-a-jill-of-all-trades-with-kristin-massey-thejoatbook/110 - Self-Intelligence with Jane Ransom (@TheJaneRansom): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/110-self-intelligence-with-jane-ransom-thejaneransom/905 – Leadership Lessons From A Resourceful Human Results Professional with Brenda Neckvatal (@brendaleads): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-905-leadership-lessons-from-a-resourceful-human-results-professional-with-brenda-neckvatal-b/

Hollywood’s Next Revolution: The Multiverse Vision by Scott Hadley Morgan Eventhorizon.studio About the Guest(s): Scott Hadley Morgan is an award-winning writer, producer, and director with over 30 years of experience in Hollywood. Mentored by industry giants Freddy Fields and Barry London, Scott has penned screenplays for major studios including Silver Pictures, HBO, Paramount, TriStar, and Universal. His works include celebrated projects with influential figures like Don Simpson and Jean-Claude Van Damme. Scott has pioneered the use of next-generation technology in filmmaking, being the first director to use a high-definition camera from NASA. He is now focusing on writing, with his latest works including the book series “One Fish Says to Another Fish.” Episode Summary: In this episode of The Chris Voss Show, Chris Voss sits down with Hollywood veteran Scott Hadley Morgan to explore his innovative approach to transforming the entertainment industry. Through his 30-year career, Scott has contributed significantly to major studios and is now channeling his creativity into writing. His upcoming book series, “One Fish Says to Another Fish,” aims to fuse Eastern and Western philosophy in preparation for the AI age, offering insights that are both timeless and ahead of the current entertainment curve. Scott discusses his groundbreaking work in reimagining Hollywood through his Event Horizon Studio, a new multiverse driven by interconnected apps he has developed, known as the “Sling Ring.” By integrating advanced AI and blockchain technologies, Scott seeks to create a new digital ecosystem that expands beyond traditional media. From enhancing audience engagement to providing a counterbalance to AI in Hollywood, Scott’s vision offers investors a pioneering opportunity in the emerging $1.3 trillion ‘Pioneer Cloud’ industry. He outlines how the narrative landscape and media consumption could fundamentally change, inviting investors to be part of this innovative journey. Key Takeaways: Innovative Filmmaking Vision: Scott Morgan is creating a new paradigm in Hollywood with the Event Horizon Studio, integrating next-gen tech to reinvent the industry. The Sling Ring Concept: This innovative app network aims to revolutionize social media and digital presence by creating a “soul” for user profiles that can interact across multiverses. Counterbalance to AI: Scott’s expertise offers a balancing force to the current AI trends in Hollywood, ensuring the preservation of creativity and storytelling. Investor Opportunities: Targeting the $1.3 trillion Pioneer Cloud, Scott’s project invites investors seeking substantial financial and brand engagement returns. Rich Background: With foundational experience in high-definition technology and rich storytelling, Scott blends craft and tech-savvy insight in his new ventures. Notable Quotes: “AI is useful in generating visuals in the background of a game, but there are reasons it will never write the hit screenplays.” “The Sling Ring is an interconnected network of 49 apps, a revolutionary presence for digital engagement reminiscent of Avatar’s soul-saving narrative.” “In Hollywood, nothing exists long if it’s out of balance. I’m bringing the counterbalance to an industry increasingly dominated by AI.” “Each investor is looking at a couple billion dollars a year, driven by innovation in digital ecosystems.” “Your new avatar and social media platform are part of a pioneering cloud, crafting a more enriched experience than any Instagram lifestyle.”

Your edge is not how hard you push. It is how fast you recover, reset, and get back on track. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill break down the difference between discipline and rigidity, burnout and misallocated energy, and rest and weakness. From missed workouts and cheat meals to draining team members and recovery as a competitive advantage, this AMMA is a blunt reminder that high performance is not about being perfect. It is about knowing what costs you energy, what restores it, and what you refuse to tolerate. Here's what you'll learn: Why getting off track only matters if you cannot get back on track How to identify the work, people, and habits that drain your energy What it takes to make recovery a competitive advantage instead of a guilty pleasure You do not need to be perfect to stay disciplined. You just need the discipline to come back stronger the next day. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:01:42) Discipline vs. Enjoying Life (00:05:05) Why One Bad Day Changes Nothing (00:05:32) Getting Back on Track Matters (00:10:05) Q1: Burnout Without Overwork (00:16:18) Q2: Is Recovery an Advantage? (00:22:02) Q3: High Performers Who Drain You ---- Links & Resources: Atlas Restaurant The Garden Room Michelin Guide ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 461. Mastering Biological Fundamentals for Elite Performance with Dr. Kristen Holmes 430. AMMA - What Separates The Pros From The Rest 420. The Sleep Science That Separates Elite Performers with Dr. Michael Breus

The only way to build the next big thing is to stop trying to copy the last one. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with David Vonderhaar, studio lead at Bullet Farm and former studio design director for the Call of Duty franchise, to unpack what it really takes to innovate in a world obsessed with replication. From navigating harsh feedback from passionate audiences to building a studio from the ground up after two decades inside a billion-dollar franchise, David shares the mindset, courage, and conviction required to do things on your own terms. This is a conversation about originality, resilience, and the cost of choosing the harder path. Here's what you'll learn: Why true breakthroughs come from being original, not from copying what's already working How to keep teams engaged under pressure without burning them out What it takes to bet on yourself when walking away from a sure thing If you want to build something that lasts, you have to be willing to build it before anyone else believes in it. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:02:28) Two Decades at Treyarch (00:03:56) Why He Didn't Retire (00:05:49) Origins in the Arcade (00:10:16) Joining the Call of Duty Machine (00:12:07) The Yearly Release Pressure (00:18:43) Navigating a Toxic Community (00:21:12) The End of the Public-Facing Dev (00:26:57) What Made Call of Duty Iconic (00:28:54) When a Game Loses Its Soul (00:30:27) The Business Broke the Industry (00:36:59) Redefining What AAA Means (00:38:45) What Success Looks Like Now (00:41:59) Building the Right Team ---- Links & Resources: Bullet Farm NetEase Games Activision Treyarch Infinity Ward Sledgehammer Games Raven Software Call of Duty X-Men Legends II: Rise of Apocalypse Dungeons & Dragons ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 332. Cliff Bleszinski - What the Legal Industry Can Learn From the Gaming Industry 113. Kevin O'Leary - The Entrepreneurial Journey: Inside the Mind of Mr. Wonderful 48. Eric Siu - Leveling Up: How to Master the Game of Life

Kevin Jacobsen is the CEO of Foxen, a proptech company modernizing multifamily operations with value-add compliance and financial wellness solutions. A former investment banker and private equity professional, Kevin built his career working on technology M&A transactions, IPOs, and capital allocation before moving into operating roles at high-growth SaaS companies. He previously served as CEO of LogicGate and CFO at Kapow. At Foxen, Kevin leads a platform that has served approximately 3 million residential units across the country, offering renters insurance compliance, resident rent reporting, and pet compliance solutions to multifamily owners and operators.     Make sure to download our free guide, 7 Questions Every Passive Investor Should Ask, here.     Key Takeaways Around 40% of residents required to carry renters insurance don't have active coverage, creating real exposure for operators Without resident coverage, a claim defaults to the property policy, which can carry a $50,000 to $100,000+ deductible Renters pay 25 to 35% of after-tax income on rent but receive no credit benefit from on-time payments 85% of renters say they want rent reporting; only about 10% currently have access to it Proptech companies thrive by staying specialized rather than spreading thin across too many solutions When evaluating a deal or operator, trust is the primary filter: if something feels too good to be true, dig harder     Topics From Investment Banking to Multifamily Proptech Kevin started in investment banking after college, working on technology M&A, IPOs, and capital allocation He moved into private equity before finding his footing as an operator of high-growth technology companies He joined Foxen as CEO four years ago and has been focused on building the company's presence across the multifamily industry The Three Core Solutions Foxen Offers Renters insurance compliance ensures all residents maintain active coverage as required by their lease Rent reporting (branded as Rent Street) reports on-time rent payments to credit agencies so residents can build a credit profile Pet compliance manages documentation collection, emotional support animal verification, and HUD-related regulatory requirements The Renters Insurance Compliance Problem Roughly 40% of residents who are required to carry coverage do not have an active policy, either due to lapsed payments or intentional cancellation Property management teams have historically had no scalable way to track and enforce this in real time Foxen tracks compliance and gives residents a choice: maintain their own policy or enroll in a waiver program with no deductible exposure The Financial Wellness Gap in Rental Housing Mortgage payments are automatically reported to credit agencies; rent payments are not, leaving a major gap in the financial reporting ecosystem Renters pay a significant share of their income on rent and build no credit history from it California recently passed a law requiring property management companies to offer rent reporting; other states are evaluating similar legislation How Foxen Thinks About Product Growth There are approximately 50 million rental units in the US; Foxen has served roughly 3 million, signaling significant runway The company focuses on specialized, complex functions that property managers do not want to own in-house Clients increasingly want fewer vendors, not more, which creates a clear opportunity for companies that can deliver multiple services reliably through a single integration    

Chris Voss spent two decades at the FBI and became the Bureau's lead kidnapping negotiator. Today he sits down with Nicole to teach you how to leverage the same psychological tactics to get the salary you want. Chris and Nicole break down exactly what to say to get a raise, how to walk into a new job offer and negotiate without burning bridges, and how to get people to want to pay you more. Chris reveals why finding “common ground” is actually a recipe for resentment, why throwing out a number first can kill a deal, and the three conflict types — fight, flight, and make friends — that explain how almost every deal goes sideways.  Then Nicole and Chris get into why remote work might be quietly tanking your career, an analysis of President Trump's negotiation style and The Art of the Deal, plus the two lines of code planted in your head before age five that drive everything you do with money, work, and relationships. Finally, because Nicole had to ask, Chris explains what you should say if you're ever in a hostage situation. Check out Nicole's financial literacy course The Money School Find a Financial Advisor or Financial Coach from Nicole's company Private Wealth Collective Watch video clips from the pod on Money Rehab's Instagram and Nicole Lapin's Instagram Check out Nicole's Favorite Chris Voss Book “Never Split the Difference” Learn More About The Black Swan Method Here's what Nicole covers with Chris:  00:00 Are You Ready for Some Money Rehab?  01:00 Why Splitting the Difference Builds Resentment 03:19 The Myth of “Common Ground” 06:57 Stories From Being the Lead Hostage Negotiator For the FBI  07:51 How to Get Your Boss to Want to Pay You More  16:00 The Mistake of Getting Too Personal 18:51 What Should You Say If You're a Hostage? 19:19 In A Raise Negotiation, Should You Bring Up a Competing Offer? 22:19 Is Body Language Really Important? 27:12 Does Chris Voss Get Nervous While Negotiating? 28:36 Negotiation Role Play and the Script For Getting a Raise 30:31 Should You Throw Out a Number First? 32:25 Don't Ask “How Can I Help?” 42:15 Negotiating Non-Monetary Perks (Remote Work, Vacation Time, and More)43:06 Chris' Take on Remote Work: It Makes You a C-Player  47:31 How to Use Empathy in a Negotiation  48:00 Why Being Playful Makes You 31% Smarter  50:20 The Three Conflict Types and Why Deals Die  59:00 Analyzing Donald Trump's Negotiation Style 01:08:51 Debunking Negotiation Myths 01:16:00 Rating Deal-Making Cliches  01:18:13 How To Get Inside Someone's Head 01:22:38 How Your Upbringing Influences Your Negotiation Skills 01:25:47 Chris Voss's Tip You Can Take Straight to the Bank

In this episode of The Burn Podcast, Ben Newman sits down with legendary former FBI hostage negotiator Chris Voss for a powerful conversation about pressure, mental toughness, leadership, and the negotiation that impacts your life more than any other—the negotiation with yourself.Known worldwide for his bestselling book Never Split the Difference, Chris shares the mindset, preparation, and emotional discipline required to perform in the highest-pressure situations imaginable. From international hostage negotiations to coaching elite leaders, entrepreneurs, and performers, Chris explains why success under pressure always comes back to preparation, emotional control, and mastering your internal dialogue.Ben and Chris dive deep into the importance of process over emotion, why most people mentally defeat themselves before the moment even begins, and how gratitude can instantly shift your mindset when pressure hits. Chris also shares why the greatest performers rehearse success before the moment arrives—and why elite performers never stop refining their process after they win.This episode is packed with practical lessons for leaders, athletes, coaches, entrepreneurs, and anyone looking to become mentally stronger in high-stakes moments.--------------------------------------------Connect with Chris Voss:Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ChrisVossNegotiationInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thefbinegotiatorWebsite: https://www.blackswanltd.com/The Black Swan Negotiation Community: https://join.blackswanltd.com/Book: https://a.co/d/0aANNows************************************Watch the full episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/VZ7vDdaGZqwListen on all platforms: https://www.theburnpodcast.comLearn about upcoming events and coaching: https://www.workwithbnc.comGet Ben's latest book The STANDARD:  https://amzn.to/3DE1clY1stWork directly with Ben: https://www.bennewmancoaching.comConnect with Ben Newman:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/continuedfightFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/Continuedfight/Twitter: https://twitter.com/ContinuedFightLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-newman-b0b693https://www.bennewmancoaching.com************************************Learn about our Upcoming events and programs:https://www.workwithbnc.comLet's work TOGETHER https://www.bennewmancoaching.comLet's work together to write YOUR next book- BNC PublishingSend us a messageOrder my latest book The STANDARD: Winning at YOUR Highest Level: https://amzn.to/3DE1clY1st Phorm | The Foundation of High Performance Nutrition1stPhorm.com/bnewmanConnect with me everywhere else:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/continuedfightFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/Continuedfight/Twitter: https://twitter.com/ContinuedFightLinkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-newman-b0b693

At what point does believing in someone's potential stop being leadership and start being a liability? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill answer three listener questions about one of the hardest tensions in leadership: the gap between what you see in your people and what they actually deliver. They walk through how to handle a high-talent, low-output team member, how to recognize when a long-tenured leader has plateaued, and whether the popular idea of "unlimited potential" actually holds up. Believing in your team is valuable, but does it replace standards and results? Here's what you'll learn: Why potential without performance becomes a liability, and how to set objective criteria before emotion drives the decision How to know when a team member has hit their ceiling and what to do about it without losing empathy Why "unlimited potential" is a myth, and what a leader can actually be responsible for You can want it for them all day long. If they don't want it for themselves, nothing you do will matter. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:04:12) Earning the Right to Live a Little (00:05:37) Q1: Talent vs. Output (00:08:32) Potential Is Secondary to Performance (00:09:47) The Outside-In Perspective Test (00:10:50) Q2: Has He Hit His Ceiling? (00:11:35) What Got You Here Won't Get You There (00:14:24) Ceilings Aren't Failures (00:15:23) Q3: Does Everyone Have Unlimited Potential? (00:17:03) A Leader Removes Barriers (00:20:48) Closing ---- Links & Resources: No Rules Rules by Reed Hastings and Erin Meyer DreamHack Atlanta LeBron James Michael Jordan Kobe Bryant Gordon Ramsay ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 359. The Ultimate Guide to Retaining Top Talent 313. A-Player Attractors - Winning With Who: Cultivating a Winning Team 207. Patty McCord - How to Build a Culture of Freedom and Responsibility

What if the fastest way to get a “yes”… is to stop asking for it? In this preview episode of Travis Makes Friends, Travis sits down with legendary FBI hostage negotiator Chris Voss to challenge one of the most ingrained habits in communication: chasing agreement. Instead, Chris introduces a counterintuitive approach—go for “no”—and explains why it actually builds trust faster, lowers resistance, and leads to better outcomes in both business and everyday life. Chris breaks down how “yes” has been overused—and even weaponized—leaving people guarded and skeptical. On the flip side, saying “no” makes people feel safe and in control. That subtle psychological shift can completely change the tone of a conversation. You'll hear practical examples of how to reframe common questions, like swapping “Do you have a minute?” for “Is now a bad time?”—a small tweak that can instantly make people more open and engaged. The conversation also dives into the power of lowering expectations before making an ask. By “labeling” a request as inconvenient or even ridiculous upfront, you trigger a sense of relief when the actual ask turns out to be reasonable. Chris explains how this taps into natural human wiring—and why, when used ethically, it can strengthen collaboration rather than manipulate it. Travis and Chris explore how these techniques apply far beyond high-stakes negotiations—from customer service interactions to romantic relationships to everyday moments like ordering dinner or asking for help in a grocery store. At its core, this approach isn't about winning at someone else's expense—it's about creating outcomes where both sides feel understood, respected, and satisfied. You'll also hear why preparation matters more than talent in negotiation, how focusing too narrowly on a specific outcome can cause you to miss better opportunities, and why the best negotiators stay flexible across multiple “levers” of value—not just price. If you've ever felt uncomfortable with traditional sales tactics, struggled to ask for what you want, or wondered how to communicate more effectively without coming across as pushy, this preview will give you a completely new lens on influence and connection. Hit play to learn why the word “no” might be the most powerful tool you're not using—and how a simple shift in language can transform the way you negotiate, connect, and build relationships.**Join the Black Swan Community with Chris Today!** Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The fastest way to destroy a great firm is to let standards slip while you scale. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Sam Pond, founder and managing partner of Pond Lehocky Giordano, to break down what it really takes to build a high-performing law firm without losing what made it great in the first place. From leadership under pressure to culture enforcement, delegation, data, and the real ROI of team retreats, this conversation is a masterclass in scaling without becoming bureaucratic. Here's what you'll learn: Why “take care of the client and everything else will take care of itself” is the only scalable North Star How to build a culture that holds under pressure (and what to do the moment you see slippage) What it takes to run a real executive structure, delegate at scale, and still deliver exceptional service The firms that win next are the ones that scale without surrendering what made them great. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:02:10) Welcome and origin story (00:04:33) Early hustle and entrepreneurship (00:05:59) From adversaries to partners (00:09:18) Mission first, money second (00:11:34) Scaling quality with teams (00:16:13) Retreats, culture, and ROI (00:20:15) Growth metrics and reinvestment (00:24:04) C-suite structure and ops scale (00:28:07) Marketing channels that convert (00:33:20) Adversity, COVID, leadership (00:41:45) Worry, mindset, and perspective (00:44:58) Marriage and shared values (00:46:41) What Sam is most proud of (00:49:42) Closing ---- Links & Resources: Pond Lehocky Giordano John Morgan Jamie Dimon Eagles Autism Foundation Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 247. John Morgan - Fortune Favors the Bold: How to Build a Legal Empire 204. Alexander Shunnarah - The Thin Line Between Success and Failure 182. Randi McGinn - Authenticity is the Advantage

Your firm does not change when you learn more. It changes when you actually execute. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill call out the pattern behind "staying motivated" while making zero real change, then lay out how to turn insights into traction. From a simple hourly discipline habit to a blunt breakdown of filtering advice and finding the right seat, this episode reinforces a core truth about performance: standards are built through action, not consumption. If you have been collecting frameworks while avoiding implementation, this will reset your focus. Here's what you'll learn: Why collecting information can feel productive while actually keeping you stuck, and how to break the pattern. How to filter contradictory advice so you stop second-guessing and start making clean decisions. What it takes to choose the right seat in business so you stop forcing a role that creates constant friction. Want the results? Then start moving like the person who earns them. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:01:56) A habit that builds discipline (00:05:27) The hidden cost of sitting (00:09:00) Q1: When learning is avoidance (00:09:42) Motivation can be procrastination (00:10:27) Knowledge needs execution (00:13:54) Q2: When smart advice conflicts (00:16:49) Choose mentors by outcomes (00:20:32) Q3: The truth about entrepreneurship (00:23:44) The power of the #2 seat (00:28:10) The right seat should feel obvious (00:28:48) Wrap Up Links & Resources: Bryan Johnson Mark Manson Nike "Just Do It" Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O'Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 251. Alex Hormozi - The Power of Humility in Achieving Entrepreneurial Success 203. AMMA - How to Know If You Are NOT Cut Out for Entrepreneurship 10. Gino Wickman - Entrepreneurship. Is it in your DNA?

Are your childhood habits sabotaging your leadership and business decisions? Through her work in developmental psychology, Dr. Aliza Pressman found that many adults unknowingly carry childhood attachment styles and emotional habits into their adult lives, shaping how they think, relate, and communicate. In this episode, Dr. Aliza breaks down her Five Rs framework and explains how understanding your childhood attachment style can transform your leadership, relationships, and personal development. In this episode, Hala and Dr. Aliza will discuss:  (00:00) Introduction (03:04) How Childhood Shapes Adult Behavior (07:53) The Five Rs of Human Development (11:42) Rupture and Repair in Healthy Relationships (16:00) How Attachment Styles Shape Relationships (24:26) How Attachment Styles Manifest in Leadership (42:45) How Great Leaders Set Limits and Boundaries (47:03) Reflection and Self-Regulation Tools (53:50) Setting Healthy Rules and Routines (58:46) Final Takeaways for Entrepreneurs  Dr. Aliza Pressman is a developmental psychologist, co-founder of the Mount Sinai Parenting Center, and host of the award-winning podcast Raising Good Humans. She is also the bestselling author of The 5 Principles of Parenting, which translates decades of developmental science into a practical framework for raising emotionally resilient children, building stronger relationships, and helping leaders and entrepreneurs better understand human behavior.  Sponsored By: Huel - Get over $50 in savings with the Discovery Bundle from Huel. Use my exclusive code YAP15 for 15% off at huel.com/yap15. Indeed - Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/profiting Shopify - Start your $1/month trial at Shopify.com/profiting. Quo - Run your business communications the smart way. Try Quo for free, plus get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/profiting Fabric - Protect your family with term life insurance from Fabric by Gerber Life. Apply today in just minutes at meetfabric.com/profiting  ZocDoc - Stop putting off those doctors' appointments. Find and instantly book a doctor you love today at Zocdoc.com/PROFITING  Blinkist - Turn the world's best nonfiction books into quick 15-minute reads or listens. Grab your free trial plus an exclusive 30% discount at blinkist.com/profiting   Remitly - Transfer money internationally with Remitly, with no hidden fees. Use code BUSINESS to get a $100 bonus after you send $300 or more. New customers only.  Prolon - Reset and rejuvenate your body with Prolon's five-day plant-based fasting mimicking program. Go to ProlonLife.com/PROFITING for 15% off sitewide plus a $40 bonus gift when you subscribe to their 5-Day Program. Resources Mentioned: Aliza's Book, The Five Principles of Parenting: bit.ly/AP-T5POP  Aliza's Podcast: Raising Good Humans: bit.ly/RGH-APPLE  Aliza's Instagram: instagram.com/raisinggoodhumanspodcast  Aliza's Substack: dralizapressman.substack.com  Aliza's Website: draliza.com  Active Deals - youngandprofiting.com/deals  Key YAP Links Reviews - ratethispodcast.com/yap YouTube - youtube.com/c/YoungandProfiting Newsletter - youngandprofiting.co/newsletter  LinkedIn - linkedin.com/in/htaha/ Instagram - instagram.com/yapwithhala/ Social + Podcast Services: yapmedia.com Transcripts - youngandprofiting.com/episodes-new  Entrepreneurship, Entrepreneurship Podcast, Business, Business Podcast, Self Improvement, Self-Improvement, Personal Development, Starting a Business, Strategy, Investing, Sales, Selling, Psychology, Productivity, Entrepreneurs, AI, Artificial Intelligence, Technology, Marketing, Negotiation, Money, Finance, Side Hustle, Startup, Mental Health, Career, Leadership, Mindset, Health, Growth Mindset, Positivity, Human Nature, Human Psychology, Critical Thinking, Robert Greene, Chris Voss, Robert Cialdini