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In this deeply moving and raw interview, Jennie shares her powerful life story—from growing up in a strict Mormon household to breaking free from the expectations that shaped her identity. She opens up about her parents' conversions, her challenging marriage, the emotional toll of purity culture, and her gradual disillusionment with the church.Jennie also recounts the heartbreaking loss of her daughter Izzy, and how grief reshaped her spirituality and perspective on life. Through it all, she finds resilience, healing, and the courage to choose herself.A story of love, loss, faith, and transformation you won't forget.Topics Include:-Childhood in a devout LDS family-Marriage, purity culture, and incompatibilities in marriage -Crisis of faith and discovering church history-Navigating grief after the loss of her daughterSubscribe for more real stories about faith, loss, and rebuilding.Show NotesYouTube00:00:00 Introduction00:04:25 Background on her parents, who were both converts to the church00:14:02 Their early family life00:18:37 How did her baptism affect her00:23:04 Stories about her grandmother, and the passing of her uncle00:25:14 Her mother began looking into her ancestry and finds out she has other family in Texas.00:29:30 Jennie loved theatre as a kid00:38:02 Her dad was very strict with what content they were allowed to watch00:45:45 Confessed to her bishop about sexual sin00:49:33 What is a patriarchal blessing00:54:46 Discussing her marriage01:06:09 Hated sex in their marriage because she was so afraid of it before01:22:39 Jennie's reaction to the new changes for women's garments01:36:48 Who was Fanny Alger?01:40:46 Who was Helen Mar Kimball?01:49:00 Told her husband that she wanted to stop attending church, and he is thrilled01:54:00 They officially separate, and decided to start dating other people02:02:28 They unexpectedly got pregnant02:13:49 What it is like to have a newborn with a health issue02:21:32 Izzy's passing02:52:50 Unsupportive things people have said to her, and what to say instead03:00:25 Discussing the stages of grief and the healing process03:10:23 Pressure to have a Mormon funeral03:19:05 How does she ground herself when things feel uncertain03:27:58 ConclusionMormon Stories Thanks Our Generous Donors!Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today:One-time or recurring donation through DonorboxSupport us on PatreonPayPalVenmoOur Platforms:YouTubePatreonSpotifyApple PodcastsContact us:MormonStories@gmail.comPO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117Social Media:Insta: @mormstoriesTikTok: @mormonstoriespodcastJoin the Discord

Was Joseph Smith's sealing to Fanny Alger and adoptive, rather than marriage sealing? Dr Christopher Smith and Don Bradley have come up with an amazing thesis that re-writes the polygamy origin story. Check out our conversation... https://youtu.be/thDum2jOD8U Don't miss our other conversations on Secret Covenants! https://gospeltangents.com/books/secret-covenants/ Copyright © 2024 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission. transcript to follow Copyright © 2024 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission.

Referencias: Sitio de Brian C. Hales, José Smith Polygamy: https://Josésmithspolygamy.org/ Ensayo de la Iglesia, "El matrimonio plural en Kirtland y Nauvoo": https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics-essays/plural-marriage-in-kirtland-and-nauvoo?lang=spa Otros movimientos de los Santos de los Últimos Días: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/topics/latter-day-saint-movements?lang=spa Lista de referencias de la poligamia en el sitio de la Iglesia: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/si/questions/plural-marriage?lang=eng Artículo sobre Fanny Alger en el sitio de la Iglesia: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/topics/fanny-alger?lang=spa Esposas de José que ya estaban casadas: https://Josésmithspolygamy.org/common-questions/sexual-polyandry/ Carta de José a Sarah Anne Whitney: https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/answers/Sarah_Ann_Whitney#Did_José_Smith_write_a_.22love_letter.22_to_his_plural_wife_Sarah_Ann_Whitney_to_request_a_secret_rendezvous.3F Emily Partridge escribió sobre Emma en su autobiografía: https://Josésmithfoundation.org/emily-partridge-young-1824-1899-autobiography/ Emma niega la poligamia de José: Mormon Enigma: Emma Hale Smith, pp. 301-302 Ley de Illinois de 1833: https://archive.org/details/revisedlawsofill00illi/page/198/mode/2up?view=theater ¿Los matrimonios plurales incluían relaciones sexuales? https://Josésmithspolygamy.org/common-questions/plural-marriages-sexual/ Nancy Maria Winchester: https://Josésmithspolygamy.org/plural-wives-overview/nancy-maria-winchester/ Declaración jurada de Emily Partridge: https://Josésmithspolygamy.org/common-questions/plural-marriages-sexual/emily-dow-partridge-evidence-of-sexuality/ Lucy Walker, evidencias de sexualidad: https://Josésmithspolygamy.org/common-questions/plural-marriages-sexual/lucy-walker-evidence-of-sexuality/ Testimonio de Malissa Lott: https://Josésmithspolygamy.org/plural-wives-overview/malissa-lott/ John C. Bennett: https://Josésmithspolygamy.org/john-c-bennett-and-spiritual-wifery/ Louisa Beaman: https://Josésmithspolygamy.org/common-questions/plural-marriages-sexual/louisa-beaman-evidence-of-sexuality/ Fanny Alger: https://Josésmithspolygamy.org/common-questions/plural-marriages-sexual/fanny-alger-evidence-of-sexuality/ Mary Heron: https://Josésmithspolygamy.org/common-questions/plural-marriages-sexual/mary-heron-evidence-of-sexuality/

John C Bennett made allegations of non-ceremonial spiritual wifery. Did that happen? Was there a revelation for Joseph Smith to marry Fanny Alger? Does the 1835 Declaration on Marriage reference polygamy? We'll talk about the early scandals in Nauvoo. Check out our conversation with Clair Barrus about his chapter in Secret Covenants... https://youtu.be/EnGXIZozaug Don't miss our other conversations with Clair: https://gospeltangents.com/people/clair-barrus/   Copyright © 2024 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission transcript to follow Copyright © 2024 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved

Join hosts Radio Free Mormon and Bill Reel on this captivating episode of “Mormonism Live,” where the tantalizing title “Dating Fanny Alger” sets the stage for an exploration of one of the most controversial relationships in Mormon history. This week, our esteemed guests Don Bradley, Cheryl Bruno, and Chris Smith delve into the detailed research… Read More »Dating Fanny Alger [Mormonism Live 189]

Join hosts Radio Free Mormon and Bill Reel on this captivating episode of “Mormonism Live,” where the tantalizing title “Dating Fanny Alger” sets the stage for an exploration of one of the most controversial relationships in Mormon history. This week, our esteemed guests Don Bradley, Cheryl Bruno, and Chris Smith delve into the detailed research… Read More »Dating Fanny Alger [Mormonism Live 189] The post Dating Fanny Alger [Mormonism Live 189] appeared first on Mormon Discussions Podcasts - Full Lineup.

Join hosts Radio Free Mormon and Bill Reel on this captivating episode of “Mormonism Live,” where the tantalizing title “Dating Fanny Alger” sets the stage for an exploration of one of the most controversial relationships in Mormon history. This week, our esteemed guests Don Bradley, Cheryl Bruno, and Chris Smith delve into the detailed research… Read More »Dating Fanny Alger [Mormonism Live 189]

Show Information  Dec 10, 2023 Greetings brothers and sisters! Welcome to the weekly MormonNewsRoundup. I am your humble host Dives, talent on loan from Kolob,  My crew and I ruminate weekly on the great and spacious beehive! Thanks so much for joining us to discuss the latest current events in Mormondom.  Full Title EP 93 - Disturbing Mormon sexual assault hush money allegations, bizarre Book of Mormon themed move hits the big screen, LDS Christmas devotional fallout, and yet another Tim Ballard lawsuit  Welcome to the MormonNewsRoundup! Get to know Enos Envy Articles https://youtube.com/shorts/HvlhX-3cn3Q?si=uscG-TlxRS4yH79L  Recordings show how the Mormon church protects itself from child sex abuse claims https://apnews.com/article/mormon-church-investigation-child-sex-abuse-9c301f750725c0f06344f948690caf16  The best 60 second summary  https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0e60aJthw6/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==  Video https://x.com/floodlitorg/status/1732101622992429274?s=46&t=Kn3MLSjDGf_9v6exU2J_Gg   Church responds Video of Church Response Response Response If AP story is factually in error   Helpline Irony Actual pics of Mormons protesting the AP Just the comments section  https://www.sltrib.com/news/2023/12/06/new-court-filing-accuses-tim/ This is a new development in the Tim Ballard fiasco:  https://x.com/AdamHerbets/status/1732525193422160087?s=20 Another Mormon News rooster in the henhouse https://www.youtube.com/live/m2pF7Ugwn88?si=6h8aMV01CV0_cHs7  B roll to talk over  Link Moroni comes to the big screen, but some LDS scholars see some big problems https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2023/12/03/new-movie-aims-reach-beyond-lds/  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1CUF_oC7js&ab_channel=TheSaltLakeTribune  Poster  https://m.facebook.com/groups/latterdaylobsters/permalink/3625990431052596/?mibextid=cr9u03  Video https://youtu.be/BTSCW0Q30Ds?si=Fec3xBpBr7Y0dWin  Review MNRU Top 10 Poll of the week Slides What do you want to see most in the new Moroni Inspired feature length movie MNRU Joke of the week Conclusion What projects are you currently working on?   I have two things I try to maintain consistently:  The Mormon Question of the Day: Weekday Polls on Twitter (so follow @Enos_Envy to add your vote) Could be something simple like “What's the scariest room in a ward building”  or doctrinal “How many gods exist in Mormon theology” The Aposties–the annual ExMo Awards on Twitter I'll be taking nominations starting in January and we have a panel of ExMos who select the winners which are announced each hour of April General Conference.  We'd really like to host a live Aposties in person at a Chili's someday–Cultch would have to handle the parody musical numbers. Shout out to Jacob Hansen for winning 2022's Mental Gymnast of the Year award. He took home the Fanny (our digital trophy is named after Fanny Alger).  He's sure trying hard to repeat in 2023, but the competition is FIERCE! Connect with Dives! www.MormonNewsRoundup.org kolob@mormonnewsroundup.org Voicemail Twitter YouTube Instagram TikToc Facebook  Support this Podcast Patreon New MNRU episodes live on YouTube Sundays at 9:30pm EST New MMR episodes live on YouTube Mondays at 9:30pm EST Shoutout to Weird Alma on bandcamp.com for this episode's music. Thanks so much for ruminating with us on the great and spacious beehive!  And remember, remember: No unhallowed hand can stop this podcast from progressing!  #lds, #mormon, #exmormon, #postmormon,#religion, #news, #ldschurch, #comeuntochrist, #churchofjesuschrist, #churchofjesuschristoflatterdaysaints, #byu, #byui, #josephsmith, #comefollowme, #polygamy, #bookofmormon, #becauseofhim, #hearhim LDS church appoints new apostle after death of Ballard --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/mormonnewsroundup/support

Dear listener. Was Joseph Smith honest about the divine inspiration that brought him to polygamy? And why does it matter? And how does this apply to our emotional well-being and even our perception of freedom? Click that play button after enjoying a dollop of suspense as you wonder how we tackle today's topics, but you know how we do: lots of love, tears, and a few F-bombs.  Fanny Alger timeline- https://hemlockknots.com/joseph-smiths-wives/fanny-alger/ Average age of marriage-    https://www.theclassroom.com/age-marriage-us-1800s-23174.html Nauvoo Expositor: The First and Last Issue. https://a.co/d/6ORAIsg The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints Gospel Topics Essays.  https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics-essays/plural-marriage-in-kirtland-and-nauvoo?lang=eng The year of polygamy. Podcast episode #1.  https://open.spotify.com/episode/6Shz82CEdb3sZtHERPPbvN?si=mLXmc0HHRrKxVBIU70uzRg https://open.spotify.com/episode/5cjRCkjcvEPaKKoGIk9f2t?si=l7LoJFFNQlS_wddjsmswHQ  

#sud #mormon #lds Canal do novo projeto. Psicanálise Play: https://youtube.com/@psicanaliseplay Matéria 60 minutes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIP_YuyiN_w Matéria The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/may/15/mormon-church-whistleblower-taxes-hedge-fund Mande seu áudio de até 15 minutos para o WhatsApp a seguir. Lembre-se de falar seu nome e de onde é. https://wa.me/message/OYWI2WG7PAB4F1 Citações de líderes da igreja: “Você vê alguns grupos da família humana que são negros, desajeitados, feios, desagradáveis e baixos em seus costumes, selvagens e aparentemente sem a benção da inteligência [...] o Senhor pôs uma marca nele, que é o nariz chato e a pele negra”. (BRIGHAN YOUNG, Jornal dos Discursos, vol. 7, p. 290,291) “Se eu tivesse algo a ver com negros, eu os manteria limitados à sua própria espécie por lei rigorosa...”. (JOSEPH SMITH – História da Igreja, vol. 5, p. 218,219) “[...] a marca colocada nele devido à sua revolta contra Deus e o assassinato de Abel é a pele negra [...]” (BRUCE McCONKIE) “[...] A posteridade de Caim (e mais tarde de Cão) foi amaldiçoada com aquilo que chamamos características raciais negróides”. (DOUTRINA MÓRMON, p. 606) “[...] Caim foi amaldiçoado com uma pele escura; ele se tornou Pai dos negros...” (DOUTRINA MÓRMON, p.109.) “[...] a posteridade de Caim é negra porque ele [Caim] cometeu assassinato.” (O CAMINHO PARA A PERFEIÇÃO, p.105,106) “Milhões de almas tem vindo a este mundo amaldiçoadas com uma pele negra, e tem lhes sido negados o privilégio do Sacerdócio e a plenitude das bênçãos do Evangelho”. (O CAMINHO PARA A PERFEIÇÃO, p.43) “[...] era necessário que o Diabo tivesse um representante na terra assim como Deus” [Tal descendente aqui seria a raça negra]. (JOHN TAYLOR – Jornal dos Discursos, vol. 22, pg. 304.) Umas das 8 versões da primeira visão de Joseph Smith diferente da apresentada oficialmente: https://img.comunidades.net/dig/digitalizarimagens/Vers_o_da_primeira_vis_o.png O relato de Emma Smith ter pego Joseph com Fanny Alger no celeiro: Em 1872, William McLellin escreveu uma carta para Emma e o filho de Joseph, Joseph Smith III (Necessário traduzir em português) https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/respostas/Joseph_Smith/Poligamia/Esposas_plurais/Fanny_Alger/Descoberto_em_um_celeiro Sobre o Banco de Joseph Smith: https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/topic/kirtland-safety-society Presidente do CTM acusado de abusos: https://vozesmormons.org/2018/03/26/funcionario-do-ctm-corrobora-parte-da-acusacao-de-abuso-sexual/ Esposas de Joseph Smith: http://investigacoessud.blogspot.com/2010/01/poligamia-joseph-smith-e-suas-33.html Como é que Emma Hale Smith reagiu à prática de casamento plural de Joseph? https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/respostas/Joseph_Smith/Poligamia/Emma_Smith/Qual_foi_a_rea%C3%A7%C3%A3o_dela Plágio do Livro do mórmon: https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/respostas/O_Livro_de_M%C3%B3rmon/Acusa%C3%A7%C3%B5es_de_Pl%C3%A1gio Carta do presidente dos Estados Unidos para Joseph Smith em 1843: https://img.comunidades.net/dig/digitalizarimagens/pres_eua.png Matéria sobre a multa de 5 milhões de dólares : https://g7.news/noticias/2023/02/21/igreja-mormon-multada-em-us-5-milhoes-por-usar-empresas-de-fachada-para-esconder-investimentos-da-sec Parte da entrevista em que falo sobre o mórmon uma ova: https://youtu.be/8_M2DgJluCI Entrevista completa: https://www.youtube.com/live/P_MpIu5LImc?feature=share Imprima e assine seu certificado de "Participante da locomotiva em alta velocidade que não tem parada do mórmon uma ova podcast" pelo link abaixo: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1drxICtuddY38MzEKtFFRONtpYGONQQqW/view Mande a sua foto com o certificado informando seu nome para o e-mail: mormonumaova@gmail.com Modelo de Carta de Renúncia á condição de membro (Pedido de Resignação) para ser preenchido e enviado aos líderes locais - presidente do ramo, bispo ou presidente da estaca. httpsshaive.google.com/file/d/1o-_PVzYvh

Another installment of cult mind control and Saints: The Standard of Truth! We start with discussing Thought control in Hassan's BITE model of undue influence. That springs us into the period of 1836-1838 of early Mormon history from the church's new “history” book. The Kirtland Safety Society, the uprising of Warren Parrish, a heist in Salem, Fanny Alger, so many controversies it's hard to keep them all straight! Speaking of not keeping things straight, happy PRIDE month! Our happy news covers a LGBTQIAP+ play that was shut down by bigots but made a triumphant return in spite of the bigots!   Saints Links: https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/letterbook-2/69 https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/account-of-hearing-between-circa-3-and-9-june-1837-state-of-ohio-v-js-for-threatening-to-take-life/1    Live hangout 6/12 at 6 p.m. Mountain Time!!! Find it on the Naked Mormonism YouTube channel: youtube.com/@bryceblankenagel7707/streams   Happy News: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:dU4WbfUKQFMJ:https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/05/31/marian-school-theater-lgbtq-indiana/&cd=13&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us   Other Appearances:    Come see us on Aron Ra's YouTube channel! He's doing a series titled Reading Joseph's Myth BoM. This link is for the playlist:   https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXJ4dsU0oGMKfJKvEMeRn5ebpAggkoVHf    Email: glassboxpodcast@gmail.com  Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/GlassBoxPod  Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/glassboxpodcast Twitter: https://twitter.com/GlassBoxPod  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/glassboxpodcast/  Merch store: https://www.redbubble.com/people/exmoapparel/shop Or find the merch store by clicking on “Store” here: https://glassboxpodcast.com/index.html One time Paypal donation: bryceblankenagel@gmail.com   

As we continue our conversation with Dr. Todd Compton, we'll discuss some of the more controversial marriages of Joseph Smith. Fanny Alger was just 16 years old inn 1833. Was her marriage to Joseph that early, or as late as 1836 as some claim? We'll also discuss Sylvia Sessions Lyon. Was she havinng sexual relations […]

What do we know about the practice of plural marriage in the early Church? Who was Fanny Alger? The post Witnesses of the Book of Mormon — Insights Episode 13: Plural Marriage – Part 1 first appeared on The Interpreter Foundation.

Joseph Smith was involved with Fanny Alger in some type of “girl business” probably around 1836, and Oliver Cowdery referenced this in 1838.  What other types of evidence exists of polygamy in Kirtland?  Mark Tensmeyer will tell us more. GT: I'd like to start out talking a little bit about some of the Kirtland-era rumors about […] The post Kirtland-era Polygamy Evidence (Part 7 of 10) appeared first on Gospel Tangents.

Part 2 of an interview between Ryan Hinckley (host of the "Mormon Theories" podcast), exploring the story of Fanny Alger. We discuss the quantity & quality of the 19 sources behind the story, and how they align with today's common narrative. The post Fanny Alger: Fact or Fiction? appeared first on Hemlock Knots.

Part 2 of an interview between Ryan Hinckley (host of the "Mormon Theories" podcast), exploring the story of Fanny Alger. We discuss the quantity & quality of the 19 sources behind the story, and how they align with today's common narrative. The post Was Polygamy Taught in the Scriptures? appeared first on Hemlock Knots.

Segmentos: - ¿Emma Smith trató de envenenar a José? - Cuánto creció la Iglesia en el 2020 - John W. Taylor: Apóstoles adolescentes y revelaciones de la poligamia Referencias: - Emma Smith y el envenenamiento de José: https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V17N03_89.pdf - FairMormon sobre el supuesto envenenamiento: https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/answers/Emma_Smith/Brigham_Young - Emma ve a José y a Fanny Alger en el granero: https://josephsmithspolygamy.org/plural-wives-overview/fanny-alger/ - Datos estadísticos del 2019: https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/2019-statistical-report - Datos estadísticos del 2020: https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/april-2021-general-conference-statistical-report - La Iglesia Católica tiene un crecimiento del 1.5 % anual: https://www.ncronline.org/news/vatican/vatican-statistics-show-continued-growth-number-catholics-worldwide - Los líderes más jóvenes de la Iglesia: https://www.ldsliving.com/the-man-who-was-ordained-an-apostle-at-11-years-old-other-church-leaders-called-at-young-ages/s/88399 - Quién era John W. Taylor y la revelación de la poligamia de su padre: https://tokensandsigns.org/betrayed-for-loyalty-john-w-taylor-and-polygamy/    

In this episode, Brian and Jake talk about the first controversy of the season, being the situation with Fanny Alger. Joseph's relationship with Fanny was his first plural relationship and first plural marriage. Brian talks about why it is a controversy. Was Joseph cheating on Emma? Why didn't he tell her about it? Did she have any children? Why was she kicked out of the house? We go through all of these and more in this episode! Comment below your thoughts and questions! SUBSCRIBE: http://saintsunscripted/subscribe Follow Us: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SaintsUnscripted/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/saintsunscripted/ Website: https://saintsunscripted.com/ Follow Jake: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jacob.watson.5817 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jacob.watson0_0/

The years 1836-1838 were some of the most tumultuous in Church history.  Events included the Kirtland Banking Crisis, the Fanny Alger affair, excommunication of high church leaders including Oliver Cowder, Thomas Marsh, and the Whitmer brothers.  There were lots of changing alliances and not only a civil war among the Mormons of Missouri, but Mormons […] The post Mormon-Missouri War of 1838 (Part 4 of 8 ) appeared first on Gospel Tangents.

A NEW season of the Saints Unscripted Podcast is here! The first episode is coming out this Sunday! This season, Brian Hales and Jake talk about the most controversial topics of Polygamy. Here is a list of the topics to come: 1. Fanny Alger 2. Plurality of Husbands (Polyandry) 3. Sexuality in Joseph Smith's Plural Relationships 4. Ages of his Young Wives 5. Emma Smith's Path 6. Polygamy Questions (Why was the church so silent about it for so long?)

We sit down with Lindsay Hansen Park, host of “The Year of Polygamy” podcast and discuss the most troubling aspects of Joseph Smith's polygamy and LDS Polygamy at large. Lucy Walker, the Partridge Sisters, Fanny Alger, Helen Mar Kimball, and others. RESOURCES: https://www.yearofpolygamy.com/ https://mormondiscussionpodcast.org/2017/12/premium-lucy-walker-spiritual-experiences/ https://mormondiscussionpodcast.org/2019/08/mormon-discussion-342-nancy-rigdon-and-the-happiness-letter/ mormondiscussionpodcast.org/2020/08/gospel-topic-essays-011-plural-marriage-in-kirtland-and-nauvoo/ http://wivesofjosephsmith.org/2021-EmilyandElizaPartridge.htm Also don't forget to support Sunstone by purchasing… Read More »Mormonism LIVE: 032: Lindsay Hansen Park – Troubling Aspects of Joseph Smith's Polygamy

We sit down with Lindsay Hansen Park, host of “The Year of Polygamy” podcast and discuss the most troubling aspects of Joseph Smith’s polygamy and LDS Polygamy at large. Lucy Walker, the Partridge Sisters, Fanny Alger, Helen Mar Kimball, and others. RESOURCES:https://www.yearofpolygamy.com/ https://mormondiscussionpodcast.org/2017/12/premium-lucy-walker-spiritual-experiences/ https://mormondiscussionpodcast.org/2019/08/mormon-discussion-342-nancy-rigdon-and-the-happiness-letter/ mormondiscussionpodcast.org/2020/08/gospel-topic-essays-011-plural-marriage-in-kirtland-and-nauvoo/ http://wivesofjosephsmith.org/2021-EmilyandElizaPartridge.htm Also don’t forget to support Sunstone by purchasing the […]

We sit down with Lindsay Hansen Park, host of “The Year of Polygamy” podcast and discuss the most troubling aspects of Joseph Smith’s polygamy and LDS Polygamy at large. Lucy Walker, the Partridge Sisters, Fanny Alger, Helen Mar Kimball, and others. RESOURCES:https://www.yearofpolygamy.com/ https://mormondiscussionpodcast.org/2017/12/premium-lucy-walker-spiritual-experiences/ https://mormondiscussionpodcast.org/2019/08/mormon-discussion-342-nancy-rigdon-and-the-happiness-letter/ mormondiscussionpodcast.org/2020/08/gospel-topic-essays-011-plural-marriage-in-kirtland-and-nauvoo/ http://wivesofjosephsmith.org/2021-EmilyandElizaPartridge.htm Also don’t forget to support Sunstone by purchasing the […] The post Mormonism LIVE: 032: Lindsay Hansen Park – Troubling Aspects of Joseph Smith’s Polygamy appeared first on Mormon Discussions Podcasts - Full Lineup.

We sit down with Lindsay Hansen Park, host of “The Year of Polygamy” podcast and discuss the most troubling aspects of Joseph Smith’s polygamy and LDS Polygamy at large. Lucy Walker, the Partridge Sisters, Fanny Alger, Helen Mar Kimball, and others. RESOURCES:https://www.yearofpolygamy.com/ https://mormondiscussionpodcast.org/2017/12/premium-lucy-walker-spiritual-experiences/ https://mormondiscussionpodcast.org/2019/08/mormon-discussion-342-nancy-rigdon-and-the-happiness-letter/ mormondiscussionpodcast.org/2020/08/gospel-topic-essays-011-plural-marriage-in-kirtland-and-nauvoo/ http://wivesofjosephsmith.org/2021-EmilyandElizaPartridge.htm Also don’t forget to support Sunstone by purchasing the […] The post Mormonism LIVE: 032: Lindsay Hansen Park – Troubling Aspects of Joseph Smith’s Polygamy appeared first on Radio Free Mormon.

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In Denver Snuffer’s book, Passing the Heavenly Gift, he argued that Joseph Smith practiced polygamy.  Since that book was written, Denver has changed his mind and now believes Joseph was a monogamist.  How did he come to change his mind? Denver:  The Fanny Alger stuff, and you’ve got all of these points to triangulate from. […] The post Why Denver Changed on Joseph’s Polygamy (Part 4 of 7) appeared first on Gospel Tangents.

With the “stay at home order” in place, Our PNW Music podcast had to get creative in order to bring you the best of the Pacific Northwest musicians. With most of the country hunkering down at home due to the COVID-19 virus, it got us thinking .... or maybe remembering.... there used to be a time, before music streaming services and mixed tapes, where we would listen to a FULL vinyl album (and 8-tracks/cassettes/CD's). In the words of Shane Gildnes from Fanny Alger, it was a time “that provided for the ability to not listen to music as a background activity, but it was actually THE activity”. Now, when so many people have this extra time on their hands, it's a great opportunity to go back and revisit the “lost art of deep listening”. On “Listening To Albums Again II” we spoke with Dennis Dorgan (New Brother, Whiskey Fever) and Chuck Dingée (The Walrus, Free Harmony)Dennis Dorgan recounts how the “Commit This To Memory” album by Motion City Soundtrack helped him deal with the suicide of his brother; listening to other narratives helped him consider other prospectives. “Reconstruction Site” by The Weakerthans helped pull him through his own suicidal feelings.Chuck Dingée spoke about his love of concept albums, starting with Pink Floyd's “Dark Side Of The Moon”; where there was very little space between the songs because it was made to be listened to as one whole piece. Other concept albums that Chuck dives into are: “Twelve Dreams Of Dr Sardonicus” by Spirit, “It's A Beautiful Day” by It's A Beautiful Day and “Abbey Road” and “Sargent Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band” by The Beatles.Do you have any albums that you've listened to over and over from beginning to end? If so, let us know. We're always anxious to add to our own collections.

With the 2020 “stay at home order” in place, Our PNW Music podcast had to get creative in order to bring you the best of the Pacific Northwest musicians. With most of the country hunkering down at home due to the COVID-19 virus, it got us thinking .... or maybe remembering.... there used to be a time, before music streaming services and mixed tapes, where we would listen to a FULL vinyl album (and 8-tracks/cassettes/CD's). In the words of Shane Gildnes from Fanny Alger, it was a time “that provided for the ability to not listen to music as a background activity, but it was actually THE activity”. Now, when so many people have this extra time on their hands, it's a great opportunity to go back and revisit the “lost art of deep listening”.On “Listening To Albums Again”, we talk with Cory Vincent (solo artist formerly from Josey Wales), Michelle Montoya (Gin Gypsy), Andy Brown (Whiskey Fever, Fortune 500, Pavlov Jones, Hindu Grass) and Shane Gildnes (Fanny Alger, Blue Green, Stagnant Water) while they recount their favorite albums from their youth.Discover how a used album of Black Sabbath's “Paranoid”, purchased from a second hand record store, redirected Cory Vincent's love of blues into a new direction.Michelle Montoya talks about being introduced to Michael Jackson's “Off The Wall” album by her neighbor ..... and that she would go to her neighbors house so often just to listen, it was eventually gifted to her.Andy Brown talks about how Tom Petty's “Damn The Torpedos” made a huge impression on him as a young adult growing up in Sedro Woolley. And on a comical note .... Andy will tell you what artists were not his favorites ... but always made big points with the ladies during his “dating days”.And finally, Shane Gildnes, the walking encyclopedia of musical knowledge, talks about the impression that Pink Floyd's concept album “The Wall” made on him. And .... as only Shane can do .... you will also hear his thoughts on what important people DJ's are, his rules to reading liner notes, how Led Zeppelin snuck up on him, his memories of the Columbia record company and his 7 degrees of separation between Pink Floyd's “The Wall” and actor Kevin Bacon. There is never a dull moment talking to Shane and we are so lucky to have him here in the PNW.

ourpnwmusic.comJoin hosts Rudy and Kristine as they roundup all the PNW music happenings for March 2020 and play some tunes from some of the local musicians. In addition to reviewing upcoming shows, they will also be discussing local musicians/bands such as Kristin Allen-Zito, Cory Vincent, Lazy Acres, Havilah, Sway Wild, Gin Gypsy, Kickin Names, Fanny Alger, Toast, The Enthusiasts as well as Tom Savage's bands Ebb Slack & Flood, The Savage Blues Band and Tommy & The Nazgul.Make sure to check into Our PNW Music often as shows are being added all the time. Also, as always, if there is a band/musician that you would like featured, please email us.Check out Whiskey Fever: https://jackmattinglyandwhiskeyfever.com/media The song used in the intro is 'Why Would I Ever Want to Miss This'

This is the third week of this series on issues discussed in the LDS Church-published book Saints. Today we will discuss Fanny Alger and the “dirty rotten affair” she had with the married Joseph Smith.

Oliver Cowdery has long been quoted that what happened between Joseph Smith and Fanny Alger was a “dirty, filthy, nasty affair.”  But are those really his words?  It turns out that those are not actually Oliver’s words, but the words of his nephew!  In our next conversation with historian Don Bradley, Don will tell us […] The post Rewriting Oliver’s Words: Dirty, Filthy, Nasty Scrape? (Part 2 of 12) appeared first on Gospel Tangents.

Don Bradley is one of the funniest Mormon historians I know.  In our first conversation with Don, we’ll talk about my first memory of him, which deals with the timing of Fanny Alger’s marriage/affair with Joseph Smith.  Was Fanny pregnant?  Don Bradley thinks it is a strong possibility.  Check out our conversation…. Don:  A big […] The post Dating Fanny Alger (Part 1 of 12) appeared first on Gospel Tangents.

There are multiple examples of Joseph Smith’s manipulation of vulnerable women in order to pressure them into a polygamous relationships.  The Partridge sisters, Lucy Walker, Fanny Alger, The Lawrence Sisters.  Today we share the story of Nancy Rigdon and the Happiness Letter.  Nancy, Daughter of Early Church Leader Sidney Rigdon is a prime example of […] The post Mormon Discussion: 342: Nancy Rigdon and the Happiness Letter appeared first on Mormon Discussion by Bill Reel.

There are multiple examples of Joseph Smith’s manipulation of vulnerable women in order to pressure them into a polygamous relationships.  The Partridge sisters, Lucy Walker, Fanny Alger, The Lawrence Sisters.  Today we share the story of Nancy Rigdon and the Happiness Letter.  Nancy, Daughter of Early Church Leader Sidney Rigdon is a prime example of […] The post Mormon Discussion: 342: Nancy Rigdon and the Happiness Letter appeared first on Mormon Discussions Podcasts - Full Lineup.

On this episode, we take a time warp back to episode 2 to revisit an aspect of Mormon history largely ignored in our timeline to this point, Emma Hale Smith. Little of her own writings survive the years and she left no journal or diary. We’re forced to construct an image of Emma to live in our minds through other peripheral mentions in the hand of her closest friends and associates. We rediscover her timeline with the help of Mormon Enigma and catch up on her story leading up to the formation of the Nauvoo Female Relief Society. Check out this week's sponsor! Use promo code 'Naked' at checkout. https://49dollarsites.com/ Mormon Enigma by Newell and Avery https://www.amazon.com/Mormon-Enigma-Emma-Hale-Smith/dp/0252062914 Emma Hale Smith Bidamon biography http://www.josephsmithpapers.org/person/emma-hale-smith Smith Family https://www.lds.org/ensign/2005/12/family-of-joseph-smith-sr-and-lucy-mack-smith-the-first-family-of-the-restoration?lang=eng Lucy Mack Smith biography http://www.josephsmithpapers.org/person/lucy-mack-smith Timeline of Joseph Smith http://www.josephsmithpapers.org/bc-jsp/content/jsp/library/pdf/chart1.pdf Fanny Alger http://josephsmithspolygamy.org/plural-wives-overview/fanny-alger/ Lucinda Pendleton Morgan Harris http://josephsmithspolygamy.org/plural-wives-overview/lucinda-pendleton-harris/ Children of Emma and Joseph Smith https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_of_Joseph_Smith God Awful Movies, Joseph Smith Prophet of the Restoration https://audioboom.com/posts/6884005-joseph-smith-prophet-of-the-restoration Show Links: Website http://nakedmormonismpodcast.com Twitter @NakedMormonism Facebook https://www.facebook.com/pages/Naked-Mormonism/370003839816311 Patreon http://patreon.com/nakedmormonism Music by Jason Comeau http://aloststateofmind.com/ Show Artwork http://weirdmormonshit.com/ Legal Counsel http://patorrez.com/

Oliver Cowdery has been accused of practicing polygamy before he was authorized to do so.  In our next conversation with Dr. Bill Smith we'll address these rumors.  Are they true? https://youtu.be/RJwoRNCjKuc Bill:  That I think is wrong.  I think it developed out of a story that happened because before Oliver left on his Lamanite mission to the borders of the Lamanites in Missouri, he was with Parley Pratt and a couple of other guys going to be missionaries out there to the Lamanites.  They get commissioned by revelation to do this. Before he leaves, he has asked Elizabeth Whitmer to marry him, so he is engaged to her.  On the way through Ohio he meets another woman there, falls madly in love with her, asks her to marry him.  That's the extent of any Cowdery polygamy.  That was a pretty big issue for a number of early Mormons.  Some of his mission companions talk about this later.  That was a big issue.  He has a high council session about this thing.  He repents.  “I'm really going to marry Elizabeth.” This other woman was just a flight of fancy or something.  But that's the extent of it. We will talk about Oliver's accusation of Joseph's dirty, nasty, filthy affair with Fanny Alger. Bill:  There is no evidence as far as I know of that.  I think that Oliver and some other people were aware of the Alger affair... Don't forget to listen to our conversation about Emma!  Check out our conversation….. [paypal-donation]

We're continuing our discussions with Dr. Newell Bringhurst.  We've talked about the controversial topics of blacks and the priesthood, as well as Fawn Brodie, and we're going to continue to talk about controversial topics with Dr. Bringhurst.  What is Bringhurst's Approach to Controversy?  We'll ask him in this episode? https://youtu.be/NSLI_s5hbrU GT:  Apparently you enjoy controversy.  You've talked about blacks and the priesthood and then you talk about polygamy.  What are your latest polygamy books that you've put together? Newell:  I've been involved with Craig Foster, a co-author, co-editor.  The two of us together did a series of volumes.  They are anthologies, collections of essays by various contributors as kind of a trilogy.  Volume 1 is the Persistence of Polygamy:  Joseph Smith and the Origins or Mormon Polygamy.  That was initially published in 2009 and we focus on the controversial aspects of Joseph Smith and his involvement and practice of polygamy.[1] How does Newell deal with controversial topics?  Mentions his books have many perspectives from many different authors.  For example, Newell:  Don Bradley did an essay on Fanny Alger, arguing that Joseph's marriage to Fanny was actually a marriage and not an affair, not a “nasty, filthy affair” as Oliver Cowdery said.  I tend to take issue with him.  I allowed him to make his case and he gave a good argument for his position.  I felt like it should be out there for people to consider.  I've always considered myself to be fair-minded when I look at controversial issues.  I want to make sure that people are aware of all sides of an issue. What does he like most about the study of Mormon history? Newell:  I think that's one of the healthy things about the field of Mormon studies.  You can disagree and not be disagreeable and still remain friends and enjoy camaraderie with people you disagree with.  I think that's one of the great things about the whole field of Mormon studies. Check out our conversation….. Dr Newell Bringhurst talk about how he deals with controversy [1] Volume 2 was published in 2013: The Persistence of Polygamy: From Joseph Smith's Martyrdom to the First Manifesto, 1844-1890.  See http://amzn.to/2oEfFIj .  Volume 3 was published in 2015:  The Persistence of Polygamy, Vol. 3: Fundamentalist Mormon Polygamy from 1890 to the Present.  See http://amzn.to/2FP20pq

On this episode, we jump into part 2 of our dive into the history of polygamy, and we’re going to focus in on Joseph Smith and Mormonism specifically. For ease of listening we break this episode into three separate segments (The Entered Apprentice, The Fellowcraft, The Master). Links: Plural Marriage in Kirtland and Nauvoo https://www.lds.org/topics/plural-marriage-in-kirtland-and-nauvoo?lang=eng Joseph Smith: Making of a Prophet http://signaturebookslibrary.org/joseph-smith-09/ Eber Howe Mormonism Unvailed http://www.fullerconsideration.com/images/mormonismunvaile00howe.pdf Fair Mormon on Eliza Winters https://www.fairmormon.org/answers/Polygamy_book/Early_womanizer Hales-Vogel open exchange about Winters and Stowells http://josephsmithspolygamy.org/hales-vogel-2-private-correspondence/ 1830s Joseph Smith polygamy http://josephsmithspolygamy.org/history/polygamy-early-1830s Fanny Alger http://josephsmithspolygamy.org/common-questions/plural-marriages-sexual/fanny-alger-evidence-of-sexuality/ Statement on Marriage 1835 http://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/statement-on-marriage-circa-august-1835/2 Sexual Grooming https://www.allure.com/story/what-is-sexual-grooming-abuse Nauvoo Expositor https://archive.org/stream/NauvooExpositor1844/Nauvoo_Expositor_1844#page/n2/mode/1up Joseph Jackson Mormon Expose http://www.olivercowdery.com/smithhome/1840s/1844Jack.htm Wilhelm Wyl interviews William Law http://www.mrm.org/law-interview Last Testimony of Sister Emma Hale Smith Bidamon http://www.mormonthink.com/files/emma-interview-1879.pdf D&C 132 original revelation http://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/revelation-12-july-1843-dc-132/1 Show Links: Website http://nakedmormonismpodcast.com Twitter @NakedMormonism Facebook https://www.facebook.com/pages/Naked-Mormonism/370003839816311 Patreon http://patreon.com/nakedmormonism Music by Jason Comeau http://aloststateofmind.com/ Show Artwork http://weirdmormonshit.com/ Legal Counsel http://patorrez.com/ Voicemail Line (864)Nake-dMo (625-3366)

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A short biographical sketch. The post Bio 11: Fanny Alger appeared first on Joseph Smith's Polygamy.

The Temple Lot Case is one of the most important sources for polygamy documents.  The RLDS Church wanted ownership of the temple lot in Independence, Missouri but another group, sometimes known as the Temple Lot Church owned the property.  The LDS Church assisted assisted the Temple Lot Church and had women testify about their polygamist relationships with Joseph Smith in order to counteract the RLDS claims that they were the true successors to Joseph Smith.  Dr. Brian Hales describes this important court testimony.  This is a continuation of our previous conversation about young bride Helen Mar Kimball, as Brian discusses her relation to the Temple Lot case. If we didn't have the RLDS Church saying Joseph wasn't a polygamist, we wouldn't have the 1869 affidavits, we wouldn't have the 1877 collection by Andrew Jensen, and we wouldn't have the additional information from the Temple Lot Case.  Together those three are 75% of what we know, and it's scary for researchers on polygamy to think about what we would know about Nauvoo polygamy if the RLDS Church had not taken the stance that they did.  It's really scary.  You'd have John C. Bennett.  You'd have William Law, and you would not know even a fraction of what we think we know about it today. Check out our conversation… Don't forget to check out our previous episodes on Fanny Alger, as well as parts 1–7 of our conversations with Brian. https://youtu.be/IDP7Ybvk1cw   Our New Contest! Don't forget to sign up for a contest to win a free book!  You can sign up here!  It is the Parallel Doctrine & Covenants that contains the 1832, 1833, and 1835 Doctrine & Covenants side by side so you can see the changes.  When it was originally published, it was about $50, but the book is now out of print.  Curt Bench was actually the one who wrote the introduction to this book.  It's a fairly recent book, but if you find it on Amazon now, check this out.  It's $175.  On Abebooks it's even higher–$260!  This book is a valuable book and has become a collector's item, especially for historians or those seriously interested in Mormon history. Here's what you need to do for a chance to win.  Just go to https://gospeltangents.com/newsletter .  In there, enter your email address and your name, and we will simply put you in a contest for a drawing on Pioneer Day, July 24th, 2017. https://gospeltangents.com/shop/transcripts/polygamy-temple-lot-case/  

We know that in the Bible, many prophets practiced polygamy.  However, modern Christians and Jews mostly condemn the practice.  What are Joseph's theological justifications for polygamy?  Dr. Brian Hales tells us, The easiest one is part of the restitution of all things, and if somebody asks you, “Why did Joseph do it?”  The easy answer is, he was a prophet-restorer, and the old prophets did it, and he restored it.  That's not entirely nuanced, and some would say it's even correct.  I think it is generally. The second one is it was a trial.  This is the one I couldn't remember.  It presented a special trial.  The Lord does do that.  It gives different people at different times different kinds of trials. A third one was to—it was the one I had talked a great deal about.  It allowed all men and women to enter into a marriage, even if this is a plural wife, and then the [fourth] one is the one we started with, multiply and replenish the earth. We'll also talk about what Brian thinks of Carol Lynn Pearson's book, The Ghost of Eternal Polygamy. Of course on earth, polygamy is not fair.  It's unequal.  You could say it's sexist if you want, on earth.  But I don't think that we know anything about eternal marriage, and we certainly don't know anything about eternal plural marriage.  So to assume that that's a bad thing, that it victimizes women, and to assume that women should fear that is to fear unknown things.  God has promised us everlasting joy, a fullness of joy.  His plan is a plan of happiness. Check out our previous episode on Fanny Alger, as well as parts 1, 2, 3. Many of you will find Mark Staker's interview on Kirtland polygamy  enlightening too.  Don't forget to check out a transcript (link below), or the video! https://youtu.be/HXVAFCDxVRQ   https://gospeltangents.com/shop/transcripts/theological-justifications-polygamy/  

Here's part two of our discussion about Joseph's plural marriage to Fanny Alger.  In this discussion we'll talk about Emma Smith as well as Oliver Cowdery's reaction.  They both thought it was adulterous. What we understand is that more or less, the people that Joseph Smith told about Fanny Alger as a plural wife, they didn't believe him.... Joseph, according to one of the accounts gets Oliver and says in the middle of the night.  ‘Oliver, come help me with this.'  Oliver hears the story and sides with Emma and thinks Joseph is having an adulterous affair.  That was his opinion, probably right up until his death, that Joseph was not authorized to marry her.  It wasn't a marriage.  He made hints to members of the high council that Joseph had been guilty of adultery.  He did not accept any story of a marriage ceremony as being valid, and neither did Emma. On the other hand, Fanny's family seemed to believe that it was a legitimate marriage. But most of the people that learned it from Fanny did believe which is interesting.  Fanny's family believed.  The family that Fanny went to live with was Chauncey Webb and Eliza Jane Webb, they believed that this was an actual marriage Fanny eventually married a non-Mormon man in Indiana, but her family came to Utah, and her brother was a polygamist! Brian:  Whatever actually happened between Joseph and Fanny did not bother their faith of these people who knew the details, same with Eliza Snow. GT:  Was it true that her parents came all the way to Utah? Brian:  Her brother did and I don't know if they died or all, but they didn't leave the church. It's interesting that John Alger in 1891, this is right after the 1890 Manifesto, he left the church over the Manifesto.  He had a polygamist wife and he could not accept that.  So again some irony. GT:  Fanny's brother was a polygamist? Brian:  Uh huh, and he left the church over the Manifesto of 1890. Why do you think people believed Fanny, but not Joseph?  Were you surprised to learn that Fanny's family stayed in the church?  (Check out parts 1-4 as well!) https://youtu.be/soTfozXvQUM Check out a transcript! https://gospeltangents.com/shop/transcripts/fanny-alger-part-2-plural-marriage-adultery/  

We're here to talk about Joseph's first plural wife. Dr. Brian Hales noted that this marriage likely occurred prior to the sealing power being restored. Was this a time, or eternity sealing? Brian:  If it wasn't a sealing, then what authority was used?  The state wasn't going to allow Joseph to marry a second wife, so the only authority that it could have been would be priesthood authority and Joseph was already using that authority to marry people just for time there in Kirtland.  So one interpretation is Joseph gave that authority to Levi and this would have been strictly a priesthood marriage that Joseph would have argued God recognized and so if he recognized it and Fanny and her family apparently recognized it as did others who were involved, but not Oliver [Cowdery] and not Emma. What do you think?  Was this an adulterous relationship, or was it a true marriage?  Was it a sealing, or just a polyamist marriage for time?  What do you think of polygamy? Check out parts 1, 2, and 3, as well as Mark Staker's interview on Kirtland polygamy!  See the video here: https://youtu.be/mbJADIEyxCg https://gospeltangents.com/shop/transcripts/1st-plural-wife-fanny-alger-time-eternity-polygamy/  

In our third conversation with Dr. Brian Hales we'll talk about the earliest rumors of polygamy.  In 1835, the Doctrine & Covenants published a Declaration on Marriage.  We've got a couple questions about that.  First of all, did Joseph Smith actually author that revelation or was it someone else like Oliver Cowdery? Brian:  You know in my volume one, I go into this in some detail, and what we find is yes Joseph was gone, and yes they were quick to get this passed.  In fact they called for this conference on Sunday to be done on Monday and there were almost no leaders there.  The Quorum of the Twelve there were almost no one present, the High Council really weren't represented.  The theory is that they were trying to get it pushed through before Joseph got back because Oliver had these reasons and stuff. I don't think so and I'm grateful for Michael Marquardt for helping me.  We sat one afternoon down in his basement and we went through all the documents, and what we find is at that at point in time they needed to go forward with printing the Doctrine & Covenants.  They had published we think most of the book up to section 101, which is the Article on Marriage and that they're having piles of all these papers around the printing office. So we think, or at least I think and I think Michael agrees that the driver at that point was really that they just wanted to get official approval so that they could finish publishing the Doctrine & Covenants and so I don't think that they were trying to do something backhanded with Joseph. When Joseph came back there's no evidence that he really disapproved of what had happened.  In fact he quotes or refers to the Article on Marriage two or three times later when he is performing marriages.  He said this declares our church's belief which they had to have in writing in order for the elders of the church to be authorized by the state to perform state recognized marriages, so there were a number of things.... GT interrupts:  So whether Oliver may have authored it or not, it didn't seem like it bothered Joseph at all and he was fine with it.  Is that safe to say? Brian:  I believe so.  I'd have to refresh my memory, but what we do know is he could have had it rescinded but he also quoted it as authoritative and Michael Marquardt pointed this out to me I think he's even published that somewhere that Joseph did consider it after the fact to be the official declaration of the church at that time. Second, was it a response to polygamy that could have been happening in the Kirtland community?  What does Dr. Brian Hales think about these things? Brian:  The first accusation against the Latter-day Saints, they weren't called that then, against the Mormons, the Mormonites, that they had embraced some alternate form of marriage, came in 1831.  It was in conjunction with the Law of Consecration and it was basically not only do they share everything, they share wives.  That was the accusation that came up. Of course it's easily refuted.  There's nothing to support that it was even thought of or discussed.  So when people say they were talking about polygamy in Kirtland, I would really like to see the data on that, that this was really a response to polygamy because my research shows that there was, with respect to Joseph and Fanny Alger, discussion of adultery and that was the claim that everybody was worried about.  I don't find anybody discussing polygamy during that period. Don't forget to check out parts 1 and 2 of our interview with Dr. Brian Hales.  When do you think polygamy started being practiced among the Mormons? https://youtu.be/UqoLrao3vs8 https://gospeltangents.com/shop/transcripts/polygamy-rumors-declaration-marriage/  

Sometime in late 1835 or early 1836, in a priesthood ceremony performed by Levi Hancock, Joseph secretly married Fanny Alger, a domestic living in the Smith home. When Oliver Cowdery and […] The post Episode 9 (Common Questions): Joseph Smith and Fanny Alger appeared first on Joseph Smith's Polygamy.

Sometime in late 1835 or early 1836, in a priesthood ceremony performed by Levi Hancock, Joseph secretly married Fanny Alger, a domestic living in the Smith home. When Oliver Cowdery and […] The post Episode 9 (Common Questions): Joseph Smith and Fanny Alger appeared first on Joseph Smith's Polygamy.

The vision of Elijah is one of the most important Church history events in all of the Doctrine & Covenants.  It's the vision where Elijah came to Joseph and Oliver and restored the sealing power.  Did you know that Joseph was sealed to his first plural wife, Fanny Alger a year or two prior to that?  We asked LDS Anthropologist Dr. Mark Staker how to explain that, and I think you'll find his explanation very interesting. I believe that Joseph Smith received from Peter, James and John all the authority that he needed, including the sealing power.  He holds all those through Peter, James, and John.  What Elijah brings is keys; keys to enact those sealing powers on behalf of other individuals.   I don't think that's what we typically learn at church.  Do you agree?  Did Joseph get the sealing power in 1830, and the keys to share with others in 1836?  What do you think of this distinction between sealing and sealing keys? I encourage you to listen to the podcast, watch the YouTube, get a transcript here or on Amazon.  I hope you find this podcast a valuable resource! https://youtu.be/2fmFaOe5eq4  

On this episode, we jump back into the historical timeline! We start off with the wiles of a Michael H. Chandler, and how he made $2400 off Joe's fascination with ancient artifacts, then, the 1835 Doctrine and Covenants are voted in as scripture by every member of the church. After that, Big Daddy Cheese is given a living stipend and fees for giving patriarchal blessings, and we talk about another first vision account, only this one is taken from Joe's own diary. To finish out the episode, we read a couple of autobiographical accounts covering the end of 1835, and leading into 1836, the second of which takes us into talking about the first real sex-scandal we have good evidence for, the one between 18 year-old Fanny Alger, and 30 year-old Joseph Smith. We don't run short on crazy for this episode, so strap in and enjoy! Show links: Website http://nakedmormonismpodcast.com Twitter @NakedMormonism Facebook https://www.facebook.com/pages/Naked-Mormonism/370003839816311 Patreon http://patreon.com/nakedmormonism Outro music Jason Comeau http://aloststateofmind.com/ Show Artwork http://weirdmormonshit.com/ Links: BoC D&C comparison by Joel http://joelakuhn.com/dc-compare/ Autobiography of Jonathan Crosby http://www.boap.org/LDS/Early-Saints/JCrosby.html Autobiography of Benjamin F. Johnson http://www.boap.org/LDS/Early-Saints/BFJohnson.html Brian Hales on Fanny Alger http://josephsmithspolygamy.org/common-questions/fanny-alger-2/ Oliver Cowdery to Warren A. Cowdery (Dirty, nasty, filthy scrape) http://josephsmithspolygamy.org/oliver-cowdery-letter-to-warren-a-cowdery-olivers-brother-january-21-1838/ Mormon Think Book of Abraham Article: http://www.mormonthink.com/book-of-abraham-issues.htm

Join Lindsay for the primer series on Mormon Polygamy that will begin with the wives of Joseph Smith and eventually broaden to contemporary strains of the practice today. This episode deals with Joseph’s first plural wife, Fanny Alger. Links and text mentioned and read in this podcast: Read the text of the post here. Buy […]

I had the privilege of speaking with Brian Hales about his upcoming three-volume history of Joseph Smith's Polygamy, published by Greg Kofford Books. Brian is a practicing anesthesiologist, author and scholar of Mormon History, with emphasis on Mormon Fundamentalism and Plural Marriage. He is also an active, faithful Latter-Day Saint. In this interview, Brian discusses his research of the historical context, circumstances, and theology that gave rise to Joseph Smith's secret practice of polygamy in the Kirtland and Nauvoo periods. We talk about specific cases and incidents, including Fanny Alger, polyandry, Helen Mar Kimball, Emma Smith's struggle with the Principle, as well as Brian's perspective as a faithful Latter-Day Saint who embraces the theological necessity for the Mormon doctrine of Plural Marriage.

I had the privilege of speaking with Brian Hales about his upcoming three-volume history of Joseph Smith's Polygamy, published by Greg Kofford Books. Brian is a practicing anesthesiologist, author and scholar of Mormon History, with emphasis on Mormon Fundamentalism and Plural Marriage. He is also an active, faithful Latter-Day Saint. In this interview, Brian discusses his research of the historical context, circumstances, and theology that gave rise to Joseph Smith's secret practice of polygamy in the Kirtland and Nauvoo periods. We talk about specific cases and incidents, including Fanny Alger, polyandry, Helen Mar Kimball, Emma Smith's struggle with the Principle, as well as Brian's perspective as a faithful Latter-Day Saint who embraces the theological necessity for the Mormon doctrine of Plural Marriage.

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