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How does one become a political cartoonist? And what lessons can we learn from their craft?Episode Summary In this episode, I sit down with legendary political cartoonist Steve Bell to explore the artistry and challenges behind his provocative work. From his early struggles as a teacher to his meteoric rise as a satirical voice at The Guardian, Steve shares the experiences that shaped his unique style. We delve into his creative process, the evolution of his iconic characters, and his reflections on a career that's spanned over four decades. Steve doesn't hold back as he recounts his battles to maintain creative independence in an ever-changing media landscape. Whether it's navigating editorial constraints, mastering the balance between humour and sharp commentary, or sketching under the pressure of daily deadlines, Steve offers an honest and inspiring perspective on his craft. Along the way, he shares fascinating anecdotes, like the evolution of David Cameron as a cartoon character and the artistic freedom he carved out for himself at The Guardian and how ultimately using that freedom led to him leaving the paper. This conversation isn't just for fans of Steve's work but for anyone interested in creativity, resilience, and the power of satire to provoke and inspire. Join us as we explore the world of political cartooning through the eyes of one of its most iconic practitioners. ⚠️ Warning: this episode contains adult language and content, so listener discretion is advised. Steve Bell Biography Steve Bell is one of the most influential UK political cartoonists of our time, known for his incisive satire and striking illustrations. A graduate of Leeds College of Art, Steve initially trained as a teacher before realizing his passion for cartooning. His first major break came with Time Out magazine, where his “Maggie's Farm” strip skewered the Thatcher era. In 1981, he joined The Guardian, where his daily cartoons became a staple for readers and a thorn in the side of the powerful. Over his illustrious career, Steve developed a reputation for blending biting political commentary with imaginative visuals, often pushing the boundaries of satire. His work has appeared in numerous publications, and he remains a vocal advocate for creative freedom in an increasingly restrictive media environment. AI-Generated Timestamped Key Points [00:00:00] Introduction to Steve Bell and the origins of his artistic journey [00:01:13] Steve's early life, love for drawing, and transition from teaching to cartooning [00:08:06] Struggles and lessons learned from teaching in Birmingham [00:11:00] Early career milestones, including work with Time Out and The Guardian [00:25:02] The evolution of "Maggie's Farm" and creating caricatures of Margaret Thatcher [00:34:15] Steve's thoughts on the creative process and meeting deadlines [00:52:39] How Steve conceptualises characters, like David Cameron as a condom [00:57:18] Reflections on editorial constraints and creative independence [01:10:12] Steve's critiques of the modern media landscape and its treatment of political satire [01:20:00] The enduring relevance of political cartoons in today's world LinksTopics we discuss on the show:Margaret Thatcher: Former Prime Minister of the United Kingdom and a key figure in British politics during the 1980s, known for her conservative policies.
In this rebroadcast of show #1006 from July 23, Paul & Ben welcome back British UFO researcher and retired detective Gary Heseltine to continue discussion from the April 30th show on his book "Non-Human: The Rendlesham Forest UFO Incidents - 42 Years of Denial." Gary takes us through the 17 separate UFO/UAP encounters that make up the RFI, something we believe has never been done on the air before. The Rendlesham Forest Incidents of 1980 are now considered by many to be the second most significant UFO case after Roswell. AUDIO LINK DOWNLOAD LINK
Think you know the Rendlesham Forest Incidents (RFI) of 1980 ("Britain's Roswell")? In five years of intensive research, retired police detective and UFO legend Gary Heseltine has interviewed new witnesses, rehabilitated witnesses who had been sidelined, called into question the generally accepted narrative, and uncovered new UFO incidents not generally known before. In this rebroadcast of show #994 from April 30, Paul & Ben welcome Gary back. His new book is winning critical acclaim: "Non-Human: the Rendlesham Forest UFO Incidents - 42 Years of Denial." AUDIO LINK DOWNLOAD LINK
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Michael Heseltine is a politician with a long political memory. He heard Neville Chamberlain declare war on Germany in 1939. He saw Suez unfold. He attended Churchill's funeral. He's served Conservative prime minister after Conservative prime minister and became the man who eventually even brought down Margaret Thatcher. He never reached the highest office himself, but having seen so many who did up close, and witnessed so much of Britain's political journey over the last century, there can be few who can offer more perspective, more wisdom about the state we are in and where we might yet go, than he. In the latest of our extended political interviews, Lewis talks to Heseltine about his life, his journey, his passionate belief that we must re-enter the EU and how he worries that the current Home Secretary is echoing the rhetoric and division of Enoch Powell.Editor: Tom HughesSenior Producer: Gabriel RadusProducer: Laura FitzPatrickPlanning Producer: Alex BarnettSocial Media Editor: Georgia FoxwellVideo Producer: Will Gibson-SmithYou can listen to this episode on Alexa - just say "Alexa, ask Global Player to play The News Agents".The News Agents is a Global Player Original and a Persephonica Production.
We were really excited to speak to Alison who is the Early Years Development Manager at the Early Years Alliance (EYA) we discover what her role is all about and why understanding Early Years is so crucial. Alison shares with us her journey through the early years arena and we learn how the EYA works to support families and educators with everything early years. The EYA are striving to raise the profile of early years and are working hard to ensure that early years are recognised by the Government and society for its importance and value. Supporting children and families now enables future generations to thrive. Head to the EYA website find brilliant family and educators resources and ‘Join the fight for fair early years funding' www.eyalliance.org.uk Email: connect@eyalliance.org.uk Twitter/X: @EYAlliance Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/EYAllianceLinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/early-years-alliance/Head to www.thrivinglanguage.co.uk In-house training for educators, key note speakers and workshops, one to one sessions for speech language and communication and play sessions for children and families. Publications Routledge: Speech Language and Communication in the Early Years Speech Language and Communication for Healthy Little Minds Email Rebecca@thrivinglanguage.co.uk Thank you for listening and being part of this awesome Thriving community who empower all children to be understood. Love The Beckies
This episode was a new one for the pod in many ways. To start, Courtney was the first nominated guest that I had never met prior to our conversation. On top of that, it was the first virtual conversation. With all that said, it was an incredible chat. Courtney clearly has been up to some awesome adventures and the excited energy she spoke of her trips with made it clear how passionate she was about the outdoors. She has a beautiful view on life and many insights that can be useful for anyone. Go follow along on her travels @court.heseltine on instagram and twitter.
Today we welcome special guest Gary Heseltine to discuss his time in the Royal Air Force Police & His time as a Transportation Police officer. After retiring Gary created PRUFO or "Police Reporting UFO Sightings" which caters for serving & retired British Police so they can report there sightings. Gary is also the Founder & editor for the famous "UFO Truth" Magazine which we will discuss some of his work and how he came to be involved in the field of Ufology. Gary is now the current Vice President of ICER, and is currently working with Colonel Charles Halt to piece together the Rendlesham Incident, so we plan to discuss whats going on with that and what we can expect moving forward. So with that being said, Strap on Those Seat belts, were going for a Ride! - SPONSORED BY: "SPIRITUAL CONSCIOUSNESS: A PERSONAL JOURNEY" By: Kevin J. Briggs - GET YOUR COPY AT: www.KevinJBriggs.com GARY'S BIO: Gary Heseltine is served in the RAF Police between 1983-89 before joining the British Transport Police in 1989. He went on to have a 24-year career in the police, mostly as a Detective Constable who was also an advanced interviewer of suspects and witnesses. In 2013 he retired from the police early to launch UFO Truth Magazine, a bi-monthly ezine (www.ufotruthmagazine.co.uk). In 2020 he became the Vice President of the International Coalition for Extraterrestrial Research (ICER), a not-for-profit NGO with national representatives in 30 countries. In February 2023, after a five-year re-investigation of the Rendlesham Forest Incident he released his first book, NON-HUMAN The Rendlesham Forest UFO Incidents: 42 Years of Denial. UFO TRUTH MAGAZINE - www.ufotruthmagazine.co.uk Gary's Book - https://www.amazon.co.uk/NON-HUMAN.../dp/B0BVDF6W2Z/ref=sr_1 - SPONSORED BY: "SPIRITUAL CONSCIOUSNESS: A PERSONAL JOURNEY" By: Kevin J. Briggs - GET YOUR COPY AT: www.KevinJBriggs.com - DONATE/SPONSOR THE SHOW AT - https://paypal.me/JessePmufonFI - IT WILL HELP KEEP THE SHOW GOING, PLUS YOU GET A "SHOUT OUT" ON THE SHOW AND A PLACE ON THE WEBSITE! CONTACT ME: TWITTER - @AATPEAK WEBSITE - UFOENCOUNTERSWORLDWIDE.WORDPRESS.COM EMAIL - UFOENCOUNTERSWORLDWIDE@GMAIL.COM --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/ufoencountersworldwide/support
Gary Heseltine is a former Police Detective, with decades of investigations under his belt. His work with Jim Penniston as well as others involved in the Rendlesham incident, has led to new discoveries not well known about the events. Many people were involved, not jst a few, and these events were not limited to the few days of sightings reported by Jim Penniston and John Burrougs. We also asked Gary about the "Rendlesham Code" as well as many other interesting points he has gleaned from his investigations. UAP STUDIES Podcast is your source for science and fact based discussions with the biggest names in the field of UFOlogy, discussing topics such as: The UFO/UAP phenomenon, Military witness testimonies, the alien abduction phenomenon, Government disclosure, whistleblowers, quantum physics, extraterrestrial close encounters and so much more! ***SUBSCRIBE TO OUR CHANNEL FOR THE LATEST UPDATES*** HOSTED BY: JASON GUILLEMETTE and LOUIS BORGES Visit our Website: https://uapstudiespodcast.com/ Visit our Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/uappodcast/ Watch us on The UnX Network: https://www.unxnetwork.com/uapstudiespodcast Video Editing: Sage Skaaning
Congress was packed Wednesday, as three witnesses testified about their first-hand encounters with Unidentified Aerial Phenomena, also known as UFO, which they say is being suppressed by the government. Both Republicans and Democrats call on the Pentagon to come clean. Gary Heseltine is with us to assess the hearing on Capitol Hill. Mr. Heseltine is a former member of the British Royal Air Force and vice president of the International Coalition for Extraterrestrial Research. The White House is challenged on what seemed to be a shift of position about President Joe Biden's involvement in his son's business dealings. Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas is facing heated questions from Republican lawmakers over his handling of the southern border. What did lawmakers say, and what was his response? The Alabama senator holding up military promotions says he won't back down before Congress goes into a month-long recess. He also says no one from the Biden administration has contacted him to resolve the standoff. ⭕️ Watch in-depth videos based on Truth & Tradition at Epoch TV
Paul & Ben welcome back British UFO researcher and retired detective Gary Heseltine to continue discussion from the April 30th show on his book "Non-Human: The Rendlesham Forest UFO Incidents - 42 Years of Denial." Gary takes us through the 17 separate UFO/UAP encounters that make up the known RFI, something we believe has never been done on the air before. The Rendlesham Forest Incidents of 1980 are now considered by many to be the second most significant UFO case after Roswell. VIDEO: https://liveshows.onworldwide.com/watch/432/behind-the-paranormal-with-paul-and-ben-eno/. AUDIO ONLY: https://www.spreaker.com/user/12463438/para072323. DOWNLOAD: https://api.spreaker.com/v2/episodes/56195185/download.mp3
Episode Bio: In this episode your hosts Gary & Shona Allen welcome special guest Gary Heseltine..Gary is a former British Police Officer, Editor of UFO Truth Magazine, creator of PRUFOS (Police Reporting UFO Sightings) database, UFO researcher and author. Gary will be discussing with us his own UFO experience, research and his fascinating new book 'Non-Human: The Rendlesham Forest UFO Incidents: 42 Years of Denial' Guest bio: Gary Heseltine was born in 1960 in Scunthorpe, Lincolnshire, England. Between 1983-89 he served in the Royal Air Force as a police officer. In 1989 he joined the British Transport Police where he had an almost 24 year career before retiring early to follow his passion for UFO research. For 19 years he was a Detective Constable, working on all manner of inquiries from murder, manslaughter to rape. He was also an Advanced police interviewer of suspects and witnesses. In the summer of 1976 Gary Heseltine had an encounter that would fundamentally change his life. He was to experience something that would change his perception of the universe and man's place within it. In simple terms he had a UFO encounter that sowed the seeds in an ever widening ripple effect that would eventually pull him into the field of ufology to the extent that it has become the all pervading theme of his life. In November 2001, Gary woke up with the germ of an idea to create an unofficial database for UK police officers to record and collate their sightings. The database didn't have a name at that point but the basic idea would be to record 'on and off' duty sightings made by serving and retired officers. PRUFOS (Police Reporting UFO Sightings) database was born. The database (note: some cases are not listed yet) contains details of around 550 cases going back to 1901 involving approximately 1,100 British police officers. In June 2022, he was one of nine researchers to give testimony before the Brazilian Senate on UAPs. Gary is also the Vice President of ICER (International Coalition for Extraterrestrial Research), a not-for-profit international NGO, composed of scientists, academics and leading UFO/UAP researchers. It currently has national representatives in 30 countries. Gary is the Editor of UFO Truth magazine and he has a new book out called 'Non-Human: The Rendlesham Forest UFO Incidents: 42 Years of Denial ' and is currently hosting 'NON-HUMAN The Rendlesham Forest Tour'. Websites: ufotruthmagazine.co.uk prufospolicedatabase.co.uk https://www.amazon.co.uk/GARY-HESELTINE/e/B0BW13NMD8/ref=aufs_dp_fta_dsk
Episode Bio: In this episode your hosts Gary & Shona Allen welcome special guest Gary Heseltine..Gary is a former British Police Officer, Editor of UFO Truth Magazine, creator of PRUFOS (Police Reporting UFO Sightings) database, UFO researcher and author. Gary will be discussing with us his own UFO experience, research and his fascinating new book 'Non-Human: The Rendlesham Forest UFO Incidents: 42 Years of Denial' Guest bio: Gary Heseltine was born in 1960 in Scunthorpe, Lincolnshire, England. Between 1983-89 he served in the Royal Air Force as a police officer. In 1989 he joined the British Transport Police where he had an almost 24 year career before retiring early to follow his passion for UFO research. For 19 years he was a Detective Constable, working on all manner of inquiries from murder, manslaughter to rape. He was also an Advanced police interviewer of suspects and witnesses. In the summer of 1976 Gary Heseltine had an encounter that would fundamentally change his life. He was to experience something that would change his perception of the universe and man's place within it. In simple terms he had a UFO encounter that sowed the seeds in an ever widening ripple effect that would eventually pull him into the field of ufology to the extent that it has become the all pervading theme of his life. In November 2001, Gary woke up with the germ of an idea to create an unofficial database for UK police officers to record and collate their sightings. The database didn't have a name at that point but the basic idea would be to record 'on and off' duty sightings made by serving and retired officers. PRUFOS (Police Reporting UFO Sightings) database was born. The database (note: some cases are not listed yet) contains details of around 550 cases going back to 1901 involving approximately 1,100 British police officers. In June 2022, he was one of nine researchers to give testimony before the Brazilian Senate on UAPs. Gary is also the Vice President of ICER (International Coalition for Extraterrestrial Research), a not-for-profit international NGO, composed of scientists, academics and leading UFO/UAP researchers. It currently has national representatives in 30 countries. Gary is the Editor of UFO Truth magazine and he has a new book out called 'Non-Human: The Rendlesham Forest UFO Incidents: 42 Years of Denial ' and is currently hosting 'NON-HUMAN The Rendlesham Forest Tour'. Websites: ufotruthmagazine.co.uk prufospolicedatabase.co.uk https://www.amazon.co.uk/GARY-HESELTINE/e/B0BW13NMD8/ref=aufs_dp_fta_dsk
In this episode of Statistically Speaking we shine the spotlight on local data and look at how good statistics for small areas make for better targeted policy interventions, and more effective use of valuable public resources. Transcript MILES FLETCHER Welcome again to Statistically Speaking, the Office for National Statistics podcast. I'm Miles Fletcher and in this episode we're talking about local data for local people - How good statistics for small areas make for better targeted policy interventions, and more effective use of valuable public resources. We're going to explore, for example, how new data sources are helping to precisely calibrate economic circumstances and local communities. How we may even be able to calculate the GDP of your street or village. Now many economic forces are of course global. Some of the solutions to issues like competitiveness, productivity and inequality might begin on our doorsteps. As ever, we have the cream of ONS expertise here on hand, this time in the shape of Emma Hickman, Deputy Director of the ONS sub national stats division, and Libby Richards, Deputy Director for UK wide coherence and head of an important new initiative called ONS Local, which we'll be hearing about in full. Also joining us is Stephen Jones, Director of Core Cities UK. Its aim is to promote the role of our great cities in creating a stronger fairer economy and society. So Emma, to set the scene for us first then please explain precisely if you would, the value of really good local stats. EMMA HICKMAN So the needs are multiple, really. I think the most important thing is that we are seeing a huge increase in locally targeted policymaking and that's at a range of different levels across government. So in central government, we see near the department for levelling up Housing and Communities kind of really wanting to think about how do they target policies that are going to help to level up the country but equally what we're also seeing is an increase in devolution which is giving more power to local areas and local policymakers. And so it's really also important that they have the statistics and the data that they need and the evidence that they need to make really, really good decisions for their local areas. And they can do that in a really powerful way because they also have knowledge of their local areas. And then finally, you know, actually for citizen kind of uses of our data and statistics really one of the inclusive data principles that people are able to see themselves in the data and that they feel that the data and the statistics that we're producing as an office represent them. And so having statistics and data available at really geographies that are very meaningful to people is hugely helpful in making sure that as a country, right across the UK that we are kind of reflective of the experiences of really kind of a wide range of people and you know, local economies and end users and understand kind of how they're experiencing that as well. MF I guess one of the fundamental principles here is that it's it's local knowledge. It's all very well and everybody thinks they know that local area, but to understand all local areas, we need comparable statistics and data produced to consistent standards. EH Yes, absolutely. And that's, I mean, that's one of the key challenges. I think we'll probably kind of come to talk about a little bit later, but you know, absolutely. And that's really about understanding you know, where are the where are the inequalities within regions, as well as between regions? I think we have a lot of information available about, you know, kind of regions, but actually, we also know that some of the inequalities that people really feel are much greater actually within regions and between them and kind of being able to draw that out of data and statistics in a comparable way I think is really important for helping sort of policymakers and decision makers to understand where best to target resources. MF Stephen, from a policy perspective, describe the demand for local data at the moment, what sorts of policy solutions are policy makers coming up with and how are those best informed by really good data? STEPHEN JONES I think it covers all branches really of policymaking. I think as Emma was saying, the kind of need for really understanding and having a kind of quantitative basis for what's happening in a place is, is actually absolutely crucial for designing policy, whether that's policy about trying to make the economy grow, whether that's policies aimed at trying to reduce disadvantage and challenge facing individuals, whether that's policy about delivering the most effective and efficient public services in the right places at the right times, all of those things, whether that's done in public or private sector need to be built on a good evidence base, good understanding. I think the other thing I would add to the richness of local data can do you can kind of contextualise and understand, you know, a number on its own doesn't mean a huge amount, but if you know that you are 10% higher or 20% lower than your neighbouring place. Or the city of the same size. It's those kinds of contextual dimensions that really help nuance and finesse your policymaking. MF And it does come back to that question of trust in data than to make those comparisons in a really reliable and meaningful way. Which I guess is where the ONS, the Office for National Statistics, where we come in. Now Libby tell us about ONS Local. This is an initiative which is all about making sure that that really high quality data is available for the policy makers LIBBY RICHARDS ONS Local is our advisory service that is staffed by ONS analysts who are based in every nation of the UK and every region of England. And the idea is that we are here to help local policy makers, regional observatories, and lots and lots of different users of sub national data to really understand the enormous offer from ONS in terms of local data. Having said that, it's also very much about those working relationships as well. Stephen's talked a lot about context and understanding the nuances and so understanding the situations and challenges that are happening locally is absolutely key to ONS Local helping local areas understand that context better. MF The big ONS surveys of course have long carried, many of them are typically think about the Labour Force Survey over a very long period of time, carried a great wealth and local data that obviously gets lost in the national headlines that these data releases generate. But is it a question of getting better value out of what the ONS is already creating or actually about sourcing new data from different sources? LR It's a bit of both, very much, in being able to take people through what we already have when understanding their questions, particularly when multiple local areas are asking the same question that's really maximising what ONS already do. However, Emma's side of the house in particular, less so in the regionally and nationally distributed ONS Local is really about developing those new statistics getting into how do we get down to hyper localised sort of 400 to 1200 household building block data that then allow people to build those areas that means something to them. Emma, I don't know if you want to chip in? EH Yeah, very happy to. There's two strands I think to that Miles. I think there's one which is about, you know, how do we make the most of survey data and kind of new administrative data sources together to enable that level of granularity? And then the second part is actually when we talk about administrative data probably, that might not really mean things to lots of people. That's data that is collected for a different purpose, but collected on a on a very, very routine basis. And there are actually a fair number of new sources of that kind of data that we're able to get into the ONS. MF That's interesting. Can you give us an example of that? EH So, I say relatively new. I mean, I think ONS have had this data for quite some time now. But in order to get the level of granularity that we need on Gross Value Added statistics, for example, which is a measure of productivity, we use HMRC's VAT data for businesses and then we can link that to kind of our survey data and think about how can we then apportion estimates down to the level of geography that we need, knowing that the survey is the place where we've been able to ask the question that we really want to know the answer to and then we can use the other data to model sort of some of the other granularity that we need. The other thing is we've been really successful and using card payments data throughout the pandemic to inform the government's response. And we've recently successfully acquired a really exciting new data source from Visa, it's aggregated, so there's absolutely no way of identifying people in the data, but they've aggregated it at a really granular level of geography for us. So again, it would be in the region of probably hundreds of households, but actually that's granular enough for us to get some really, really good insights into kind of how you know, consumer spending is kind of playing out in the local economy. And there are all sorts of applications for that, that we're really excited to be to be able to start taking forwards now that we've got that data in the office. MF So just with those three very important data sources, suddenly we're creating right down to that very micro level, as you say, 400 to 1200 households really quite a full picture of local economic activity. EH And the really exciting thing about that is that people can then build their own geographies as well from that. So you know, traditionally in statistics, we tend to produce data at the level of an authoritative boundary like a local authority, but actually you might really want to know about, I don't know, West Midlands Metro, for example, they extended the line a few years ago, you might really want to know about local economic activity around that and actually, that's not going to be captured in the sort of administrative boundaries and so having the data at that level of granularity really allows people to build a geography that sort of area of interest or importance to them in some way. MF Creating a GDP of your street or village. EH Indeed. MF Okay, that's the project for now, but it comes across with some pretty significant challenges. It comes back to this problem of comparability doesn't it, and particularly if you're looking across the UK contexts there. We've got different government structures, we've got some devolved areas, we've got areas and we've got big metropolitan authorities as well. How difficult is it to be able to standardise and to make uniform the data right across that rather complex government picture? EH Incredibly so. To the point where we don't necessarily aim for uniformity. It's very much about how do we make sure that we're able to tell stories that are coherent and consider that UK wide angle when thinking about the nations but also thinking about how do you enable that comparability that's very tricky. And the more and more devolution happens, the more and more difficult that actually can become, particularly when you're looking, for example, at health data where it is a devolved policy area across the four nations. But actually, if you live on the border, let's say between Wales and England, actually, you may well be getting your health care on the opposite side of the border from which you live and therefore you've got to be able to have an opportunity to consider that. MF There's the issue then of course of samples as well. And the more local you go, of course the less representative your sample is going to be. EH Absolutely. And that gets particularly tricky. Even at a nation level where we're thinking about Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland, for example, the opinions and lifestyle survey, actually, it's quite difficult to find out what that looks like for Northern Ireland. And ideally, we'd want to be able to get more granular than the nation level, but sample sizes make that really tricky to still be representative. And so either we'd need to expand the survey to get that level of granularity or we have to actually say the best we can do is this. MF Yes, because there is only one holy universal survey of course and that is the census and that only happens once every 10 years. I recall when we were running the big COVID infection survey at the height of the pandemic, even a massive data gathering operation like that. We could still only end up getting it down to sub regional level which is what units are for half a million people. So it does show doesn't it how important it is to make the most of that admin data which can be extremely comprehensive sometimes EH I, you know, completely agree with you there Miles on administrative data and how important it is to be able to kind of think about innovative ways to combine that data with our survey data to get a more granular level of information. I talked a bit earlier about kind of estimates of gross value added and I can say that's just that's a measure of productivity and it feeds into the largest component of GDP and in local areas. What we were able to do there as I mentioned kind of earlier, we took HMRC's VAT tax data which is collected for all businesses that pay VAT, we were able to link that to a data set that ONS hold called the interdepartmental business register and the information that's held on that is all of the information about business structure, so has a VAT reference in there so we can link it to HMRC data. But the most important information on there for us was actually that where the local units are, so for example, Tescos will have a headquarters somewhere but you probably have a Tesco Express quite close to where you live. And that's one of the local units so tells us where the local units are and their postcodes and it also tells us how many employees work in those local units. And so we can make an assumption like productivity for all employees in the organisation is the same, and then we can look at actually what the productivity for that firm is top level and then divide that by the number of employees to kind of say, well, actually, if all employees are equally productive, this local unit has a productivity sort of measure of this much, and then we can aggregate that back up again to the sort of area so you know, really kind of key to be able to understand those methods, but there are some other challenges as well, but I can probably come back to those. MF That's fascinating stuff. I mean, you could point to a certain, perhaps a certain enterprise, a certain employer, that is considered to be, you know, fundamental to a local economy. But this way, you can actually really press precisely quantify what that importance is. EH And I think that's one of the challenges because actually as a as an office, we don't want to be disclosing the productivity of any single firm or any single business because that is personal information. So one of the things that we've had to do in very local areas where there are what we call dominant businesses or dominant organisations who have like most of the productivity for that area, is we've actually, you know, I'm gonna be honest, we've we've sort of masked it a bit. And so we've kind of averaged a few local areas together so that you still have a building block level of data, you still have a building block so you can build a bigger area, but you don't actually have any businesses that are considered dominant within the statistics that we produce. That's taken quite a complex algorithm to be able to achieve that. I won't go into too many details just to say that it is a consideration and the challenge that we've had to really innovate to be able to be able to publish that information. MF It's important to stress Isn't it that all the usual principles of non-identification and confidentiality apply in this work as much as they do anywhere else across the ONS. EH Yeah, absolutely. MF Give me a couple of examples of some specific bits of work that you've been doing then. There's been an analysis of towns and out of town locations particularly and how local employment growth is happening outside of town and city centres. EH My team kind of over the last sort of couple of years have been doing a whole series of analysis of towns in particular, like I say, that's a geography that people can really relate to, you know, lots of people kind of live in a town or a city. And that's something that's a bit more understandable than maybe a local authority and is a bit closer to them than the region for example. Our recent analysis on towns and out of town locations when we looked at employment growth, I think has some quite important findings actually for transport planning. For example, what we found is that actually employment growth is not happening the most in town centres, it's happening more and faster within two kilometres of the edges of a town of the town boundaries. And so what we think it might be happening is that kind of employment growth is actually happening in industrial parks are situated on that cusp between town and kind of rural areas. And when you're thinking about, you know, how people might travel to work, for example, I think it's really, really important to have those insights so that we're not just planning transport routes, for example, that go into town centres MF And what other insights have we been generating? EH So another recent piece was a new piece of analysis on the nighttime economy. So I think lots of people will think about the nighttime economy as being predominantly about bars and restaurants and obviously, you know, they will have a really, really big impact on those sort of industries during the pandemic. But in fact, what we find is that actually the nighttime economy in rural areas are surprisingly busy and that's because we also have a nighttime economy that is around health and health care. Nurses, for example, kind of working night shifts and that sort of thing. And then the other kind of aspect to it is sort of warehousing and transport as well. There's often kind of an overnight element to that, too. And again, having that understanding of like how that kind of plays out in different parts of the country is kind of a really, really useful. We originally did it just for London, interestingly, and then we've done this kind of new analysis looking at the whole country, which was really interesting. Other things produced quite recently as well are an expansion of job quality indicators of work across the UK, which is important because if you just look at kind of employment numbers, you're not really getting a sense of, you know, you get a sense of who's employed and who's unemployed in terms of characteristics of people, but what you don't get is like how good is the job quality for those people and actually, job quality is probably quite important for a lot of individuals and in terms of how good they feel about kind of going into work and how productive they are? And all of those those kinds of things, MF That also forms the understanding doesn't it of why some people have opted out of employment in recent years. EH Absolutely. And it also can tell us about things like how many people are working part time who want to be working full time for example. Or vice versa, you know, so there's kind of like a measure of underemployment in there. It tells us a little bit about what percentage of people are working on zero hours contracts versus permanent contracts, all those kinds of things, I think are quite, you know, sort of quite important. MF Some other developments well worth pulling out as well. I think we've been able to produce very interesting picture of comparative housing affordability down to quite local level. EH Yes, I think our main housing affordability release goes down to local authority level, but we have produced actually a range of housing affordability statistics, the local authority, one that we published recently probably been the most comprehensive, we're also doing a lot of work on the housing data that's collected through the census as well to understand dwellings and their characteristics as well. You know, how many dwellings are occupied and versus non occupied and how that varies by different parts of the country as well. Housing affordability in particular tells us about how people's earnings relate to what they spend on housing, and obviously that has huge impact on again, kind of, you know, people's disposable income at the end of the day. So I think it's certainly an important one. MF So lots of fresh insights that are coming from the ONS and local statistics, but it's important to point out that a lot of this you could be doing for yourself if you're so inclined, and we've brought forward a tool called and it's much more exciting than the name implies, actually. It's called the Sub National Indicator Explorer tool. Libby, can you explain how that operates? And some of the really interesting insights that you can generate with it. LR So the Sub National Indicators Explorer is something that we know and have known for a while that users desperately want. So often, if you are trying to understand a particular place, you have to go to lots of different sources to actually find information about one area. So for example, if you want health you have to go to one place. If you want to find out about education, you have to go to another and find your area and then collate that yourself. What the sub national indicators Explorer allows you to do is bring together all of those relevant indicators into one place so you can find your local authority and compare it with say up to three others across more than 40 different metrics ranging from gross median pay, right the way through to healthy life expectancy, and so you have this incredibly useful tool where you go, I want to know everything about place x and you get it all in one place. Our intention is to develop that a little bit further and eventually head into some of the developments that have come out recently around the census where you can build your own maps, build your own areas and flexibly bring different data things together. Alongside that we've also been thinking about how else we might be able to compare other areas and the team have recently done an analysis that clusters local areas together under metrics similar to and including some of the same from the sub national indicators tool and so that explores places that are statistically similar using things like regional growth metrics, and we can see what different parts of the country could potentially learn more from each other. They might be facing similar challenges and therefore getting beyond their local area to kind of join up with other areas across the country and this also gives some really weird potentially interesting insights. MF Yes, which shows that despite the north south divide, about which we continue to hear a great deal some places in North and South have a great deal in common with each other. LR Indeed, and actually places for example, in the south may be very different. So Portsmouth down on the south coast can look a lot more like places in the Northeast than possibly other areas on the south coast. Portsmouth is in a cluster of higher connectivity but lower health and well being whereas neighbouring Havant is in a much higher health and wellbeing and moderate educational performance cluster and you can see this all over the place. So for example, Newcastle upon Tyne is actually very similar to the New Forest and Havant and in fact, so is York and Great Yarmouth. And so they're actually disperate across the country, but mostly situated in particular areas. However, if Havant or the New Forest is facing a particular problem, maybe going and having a chat with York might actually be quite helpful depending on the problem. MF That seems an excellent moment to bring in Stephen Jones as director of Core Cities. Stephen, the local picture, of course, is much more complex than that old cliche about the north south divide. But what work are you doing with the ONS and with others, to produce a really informed picture which policymakers can then act on to deal with these issues of localised deprivation, economic disadvantage and so forth. SJ Firstly, we're doing a piece of work as Core Cities with the Royal Society of Arts called Urban Futures Commission, looking at the kind of like what's the long term potential and trajectory of our biggest cities in the UK and within that, you know, this is the sort of position of why do UK cities relatively underperform compared to the international peers in the developed world is quite a well established problem that's decades old. What some of the new data available is allowing us to kind of really get a better handle on is, why is that the case what is happening to for example, a fairly recent new release of fixed capital formation, so investment data, at a local authority level split by the different asset classes that the ONS have produced is really helpful to bring an understanding and a kind of richness to basically what both public and private investment we can see that our big cities outside of London have a relatively lower levels of public and private investment, particularly then if you strip out real estate investment. So investment in capital and business intangibles, those things are particularly low. So not all of our core cities, the total investment in Greater Manchester most recently was about 9000 pounds per head, central London, it's 55,000 pounds per head. If you go down to Newcastle I think it's down to 3000 pounds per head. You know, that's a dramatic difference in levels of public and private investment. MF Does having much more reliable local data, perhaps hold with it the promise that the policy interventions that result from it can be therefore much more effective? SJ So completely. You know, one of the things that I'm quite excited about in terms of using the local GVA data that Emma was talking about as a new release is there's been a whole host of different policy interventions over the last 10, 20, 30 years trying to kind of create economic activity within zones areas and whatever was saying about the ability to build your own geographies, I think is really has real potential in it. So whether it's the enterprise zones of the Heseltine era or the enterprise zones of the George Osborne era, whether it's free ports policy more recently, whether it's transport led regeneration schemes around new road junctions or new rail stations, whether it's the role of universities, science parks, investment in innovation zones, the government recently announced in the budget just a few weeks ago, the question of investment zones, all of these policies, they are some of the national ones – there's many more when you think locally are attempting to try and create concentrated economic activity within certain locations. One of the main criticisms in a policy sense is that that activity will just get displaced from elsewhere. If the business that is currently located three miles up the road will move to within the zonal boundary to gain sort of benefits and advantages that are being offered there. Well, we'll kind of be able to tell whether that's true or not, by actually looking to see whether the areas nearby have sort of reducing GVA compared to the areas that are growing and I think being able to properly evaluate policy interventions over the last 30 years to really then decide, well, is it worth pursuing policies like the investment zone announcement of recent weeks or actually should we be trying other approaches? I think that that kind of insight is going to be incredibly valuable. MF Indeed, and perhaps also with data at a much lower level and much more micro local level as well, perhaps much smaller, more precisely targeted interventions might be what's called for. SJ Exactly and I think that again, picking up some of what Emma was saying earlier, some of this data is a tool for local authorities. This has huge potential sort of exactly where are the jobs located? Are they in the town centre? Are they in the business park on the edge of town? What time of day is that activity happening? Is it shift patterns versus is it concentrated in the sort of 945 when we know these things, whether you're sitting there working out your local plan and working out where you're going to zone, your new employment land where you're working out whether you're going to offer any business rate incentives in a business improvement district when you're sitting there working out and what time of day do you need to have your trading standards officers available, these kinds of planning decisions day to day when you're trying to think about what your refuse collection plans and patterns are those things that local authorities are doing on just managing public services bringing together those different aspects having that sort of insight to know what's happening, when and what's most effective, we'll just make our policies more efficient. And in a world where public finances are constrained, particularly so for local authorities and have been for a while or be able to use the funding that is available more efficiently and the delivery of those services I think is hugely beneficial. The other thing that I'm interested in I think, is an area where we as Core Cities can can work with the ONS and others going forward is how do we make more advantage and take more advantage of the data, administrative data that is held locally? So if you think of an average local authority, they have huge amounts of data about that area. Whether that's through kind of council tax dates on collections, arrears, council tax discounts, whether that's through business rate data, whether that's through library card membership, planning applications, the list goes on. Obviously, for the same reasons, as we've talked about the need for protecting individuals and protecting data confidentiality, some of that data, you know, we'll need to be careful about how do we use but at the moment, it's largely sitting there on databases being under explored. If we can get to a world where we can start matching some of that data with some of the data sources that the ONS are making available, and then matching it with data sources such as Emma was talking about that the private sector can bring to the table like Visa and others. I think it's in bringing those sort of insights together. You can actually really, really develop the rich pictures. I can see Libby you would like to come in, so I might just pause there. LR Yeah. I was just gonna say Stephen there mentioned about utilising locally held local data alongside national level local data, sort of your ONS data, your government department data, and actually that is one of the things that we're really hoping that ONS Local can help with by having people locally with very good relationships with those individuals in local government, local authorities, regional observatories, actually, if we can pull together their administrative data with what we have at the national level and help with some of that analytical insight because also aware, as Stephen said, local governments are constrained and resources actually, if ONS can help in that analytical insight, then even better that we can help along the way. MF So Emma, an exciting vision of the future there and the possibility to be really improving local and regional policy interventions. What's coming next? EH The really big exciting development that I just wanted to mention is the kind of opportunity for collaboration and I think ONS as an organisation are on the cusp of opening up the Integrated Data Service more widely, and actually, we've been working really, really closely with that team over the last couple of years or so to understand what a good data asset would look like for subnational. And to kind of start to make sure that we can do some of the data engineering to make that micro data. So when I talk about micro data, I'm talking like response level information from surveys kind of available in a secure and safe way and also in a way that's easily linkable, so that you can easily pick up something about health and something about quality jobs and link them together in that service and do the analysis that you were talking about. That's one of the most exciting developments. I think that's on the horizon in terms of how we'll be able to collaborate and kind of use and share data more widely, keeping in mind that privacy aspect. So you know, the idea is that all of that data is anonymized before it goes into the service and then things will be in kind of really strictly controlled through it. But there is that opportunity for those wider collaborations. I don't know Libby, whether you wanted to come in a little bit on some of the other kind of future developments as well. LR Yes, so over the last 9 to 10 months we have co-designed the ONS Local service going out across the country, doing round tables, getting people together in the room, putting forward our vision of what ONS Local might look like but very much saying “tell us why we're wrong, what doesn't work for you, tell us what we're missing”. So really building that service with our users, and now we're really beginning to fly now that we have people across the country. Other bits of new work also on the horizon include new data looking at the effect of place on geographic mobility across towns and cities, so we can follow those trends as people move around the country and can help us build pictures of places, track educational outcomes and workforce trends by area, at a level that we've not been able to do in the past. We've also talked a lot today about the Gross Value Added (GVA) data, and that obviously focuses on businesses. The next innovation for those sorts of granular statistics is more looking at the households aspect, and therefore allowing more targeted policymaking for those bespoke areas, and understand those hyper-local affects that are so important at the moment, particularly when considering all those devolution aspects. MF Some insight there on the work underway here to ensure people across the UK see themselves in our data. Many thanks to our guests today Emma Hickman, Deputy Director of ons sub national stats division, Libby Richards, Deputy Director for ONS Local and UK wide coherence, and Stephen Jones, Director of Core Cities UK. I'm Miles Fletcher and thank you to you for listening. If you've got a question or comment about these ONS podcasts, you can find us on Twitter @ONSfocus. You can also subscribe to new episodes of the podcast on Spotify, Apple podcasts and all other major platforms. Many thanks to our producer for this episode at the ONS Alisha Arthur. Until next time, goodbye. ENDS
Think you know the Rendlesham Forest Incidents of 1980 ("Britain's Roswell")? In five years of intensive research, retired police detective and UFO legend Gary Heseltine has interviewed new witnesses, rehabilitated witnesses who had been sidelined, called into question the generally accepted narrative, and uncovered new UFO incidents not generally known before. This will be the first of several shows with Gary on these findings. VIDEO: https://liveshows.onworldwide.com/watch/363/behind-the-paranormal-with-paul-and-ben-eno/. AUDIO ONLY: https://www.spreaker.com/user/12463438/para043023. DOWNLOAD: https://api.spreaker.com/v2/episodes/53701612/download.mp3
We have all heard about the Roswell incident in 1947. But a series of UFO encounters and sightings at and around two air force bases in Suffolk in Eastern England in December 1980 amounted to something at least as spectacular. The Rendlesham Forest Incidents (RFI), as the 1980 events are called, were a sensation when they became known to the public in 1983. But in the decades since then, the hugely complicated case has been subject to massive cover-up and denial, according to a new book by Gary Heseltine, Non-Human The Rendlesham Forest UFO Incidents: Forty-Two Years of Denial. With his background as an interviewing expert with the police force, Gary has managed to dig up an impressive amount of new, mind blowing information; find new witnesses and elicit new information from known witnesses. ”I surprise myself. I really thought I knew the case really well”, Gary says, laughingly. The area around Rendlesham forest was the scene of a number of mysterious sightings and experiences: Strangely and fast moving intense lights, beams scanning the weapon storage area, at least two landed craft and a handful of testimonies about alien beings. In the book, Gary Heseltine meticulously dissects the often crucial details. He interviews people who were members of the US military at the two bases at the time. He elicits particularly interesting accounts from a sergeant by the name of Adrian Bustinza, who is an instrumental link between at least two of the nights when non-human activity took place. Another US service member, James Stewart, gives a mind blowing testimony about entities, strange footprints and a craft that landed and was being shot at. What Stewart experienced, however, turns out to have happened a year before the main events. Gary concludes that in all, no less than 17 UFO encounters took place over four consecutive nights, plus the one Stewart experienced a year before The deep research that was to become a book started in 2017, when Gary was appointed the lead researcher in the production of a documentary about the case. He then began looking for things he might have missed during years of private investigations. But in a way it began already in 2007, when Gary initiated a seven year long collaboration period with the key witness Charles Halt, who at the time of the RFI was the deputy base commander. Halt is a pivotal figure because of a memorandum he wrote that leaked in 1983. It was probably never meant to reach anybody outside the military or the government. What was in the memo could not be denied once it had got out, but anything else pertaining to the RFI could, and was. In the memo, Halt reported two nights of UFO activity. He admitted to having seen multiple UFO's himself. But as Gary Heseltine has shown, there was more to the story. Gary ended the collaboration in 2014. ”Because I realized he knew more than he was telling me.” Not only the military is guilty of an incredible amount of cover-up and denial, but also the mainstream media, which has not been willing to seriously question the official story. Gary's book UFO Truth Magazine International Coalition for Extraterrestrial Research, ICER (Gary is vice president)
In 1976 Gary Hezeltine, a retired British police officer, had a UFO encounter that would change his life. That sighting at the age of 16 was to become the catalyst for a personal journey that was to take 26 years to fully realize. In November 2001, he came up with an idea to create and unofficial database for UK police officers to record and collate their sightings. The database didn't have a name at that point but the basic idea would be to record 'on and off' duty sightings made by serving and retired officers and in an effort to get them to come forward. PRUFOS (Police Reporting UFO Sightings) database was born.The database (note: some cases are not listed yet) contains details of around 550 cases going back to 1901 involving approximately 1,100 British police officers. He also is the former editor of UFO Monthly.com, and was the co-editor of co-editor of UFO Data magazine. He was awarded the 'Disclosure Award' by Steve Bassett's PRG group in 2010. Hezeltine's current work includes a film about Britain's most famous UFO case - the Rendlesham Forest incident which occurred in December 1980.Websites ufotruthmagazine.co.ukprufospolicedatabase.co.ukBooks NON-HUMAN: The Rendlesham Forest UFO Incidents
Der frühere Kriminalpolizist Gary Heseltine hat Englands berühmtesten UFO-Fall neu untersucht und präsentiert weitere Zeugen und Erkenntnisse. Im Dezember 1980 beobachteten Dutzende Militärs nahe einer Luftwaffenbasis tagelang seltsame Phänomene. Die Rede ist von Englands berühmtesten Fall, der UFO-Landung im Rendlesham Forest. Inzwischen sind mehr als 40 Jahre vergangen und trotzdem wissen wir nicht wirklich, was damals geschah. Zu viele Zeugen, zu viele Tatorte, und sehr viel Widersprüchliches. Nun hat der ehemalige Polizeidetektiv Gary Heseltine das Ergebnis seiner jahrelangen Recherchen in einem neuen Buch vorgestellt (Non-Human. The Rendlesham Forest UFO Incidents: 42 Years of Denial). Und darin fördert er viele neue Erkenntnisse zu Tage, die den ganzen Zwischenfall noch mysteriöser erscheinen lassen...Das gesamte Interview gibt es ab sofort auf Deutsch und Englisch exklusiv auf ExoMagazin.tv ►►https://www.exomagazin.tv/nicht-menschlich-der-fall-rendlesham-forest-neu-aufgerollt-gary-heseltine/ BITTE UNTERSTÜTZT UNSERE UNABHÄNGIGE ARBEIT mit einem Abo auf ExoMagazin.tv! ►►https://www.exomagazin.tv/rabatt/ ►►Oder als Spende hier: https://paypal.me/robertfleischer ►►Oder per Banküberweisung: Robert Fleischer IBAN: DE86 4306 0967 1228 1444 00 BIC: GENODEM1GLS Verwendungszweck: SPENDE Robert Fleischer
Non-Human The Rendlesham Forest UFO Incidents: Forty-Two Years of Denialtells the hugely complicated story of what is now considered to be the second most famous UFO case in history after Roswell in 1947. Gary Heseltine is a former police detective and UFO investigator and researcher. He has used his skills to re-investigate the case literally from day one after the events had taken place. With over five years of research, he has examined virtually everything ever published about the case, and in the process has discovered a wealth of material. Much of which has not featured widely in the public domain, and he lays out the 'true context' around it for you, the public to read. In addition, he has collected explosive new witness testimony from many of the military personnel who were involved in the various incidents that took place, both in the forest, and on the bases in the last days of December 1980. He has also obtained amazing new military testimony from a previously unknown witness that is presented in the book for the very first time. Non-Human also delves deep into the murky 'politics' world of the Rendlesham Forest Incident, and presents information that suggests that the narrative of the case may have been 'controlled' by a small number of people for over a quarter of a century. The author also makes the argument, that both the military and governments of the UK and the US, have downplayed the true significance of the case since it became known. Non-Human lays out the best evidence for the public to see collectively for the very first time. Let the evidence fall where it falls.
Non-Human The Rendlesham Forest UFO Incidents: Forty-Two Years of Denialtells the hugely complicated story of what is now considered to be the second most famous UFO case in history after Roswell in 1947. Gary Heseltine is a former police detective and UFO investigator and researcher. He has used his skills to re-investigate the case literally from day one after the events had taken place. With over five years of research, he has examined virtually everything ever published about the case, and in the process has discovered a wealth of material. Much of which has not featured widely in the public domain, and he lays out the 'true context' around it for you, the public to read. In addition, he has collected explosive new witness testimony from many of the military personnel who were involved in the various incidents that took place, both in the forest, and on the bases in the last days of December 1980. He has also obtained amazing new military testimony from a previously unknown witness that is presented in the book for the very first time. Non-Human also delves deep into the murky 'politics' world of the Rendlesham Forest Incident, and presents information that suggests that the narrative of the case may have been 'controlled' by a small number of people for over a quarter of a century. The author also makes the argument, that both the military and governments of the UK and the US, have downplayed the true significance of the case since it became known. Non-Human lays out the best evidence for the public to see collectively for the very first time. Let the evidence fall where it falls.
Gary Heseltine is a former UK police detective, UFO investigator, researcher, speaker and author, Gary discusses his new book Non-Human, The Rendlesham Forest UFO Incidents: Forty-Two Years of Denial tells the hugely complicated story of what is now considered to be the second most famous UFO case in history after Roswell in 1947. With over five years of research, he has examined virtually everything ever published about the case, and in the process has discovered a wealth of material. Much of which has not featured widely in the public domain. Non Human link https://www.amazon.co.uk/~/e/B0BW13NMD8 project Titan link Project Titan - ICER UFO truth magazine link UFO TRUTH MAGAZINE profus police ufo sighting database HOME - The PRUFOS Police Database
With only a few weeks to go until his 90th birthday, Lord Heseltine talks to EG's Piers Wehner about regeneration, levelling up, Liverpool and leadership. In a special, hour-long interview, the Godfather of Regeneration - or is that Grandaddy? - explains why enterprise zones aren't always the answer, why the LDDC shouldn't be used as a model, why the levelling up agenda is a busted flush and how Liverpool left him 'transformed'.
A new whistleblower law in the US, following last year's historic disclosures by the Pentagon, could trigger an avalanche of truths about extraterrestrial activity. ”We have been lied to for 75 years”, says British UFO expert Gary Heseltine. Gary began his UFO investigations–which were then unofficial–when he was still a police detective. In 2013 he left the police force and launched the online magazine UFO Truth Magazine. ”I've made my passion into my job.” This passion has its roots in a strange experience he had when he was 16. He then saw a strange white light that appeared to trigger a number of power cuts in the area where he was living. Following the light, he was able to predict the cuts. Today, Gary Heseltine is also the vice president of ICER, the International Coalition for Extraterrestrial Research. ”It is a mixture of UFO experts, scientists and academics, which is a very unusual mix in this subject”, Gary says. This episode is recorded in Cusco, Peru, with its many mysteriously advanced megalithic structures. Gary is open to the possibility that these structures were built with extraterrestrial help, possibly thousands of years ago, but he and ICER concentrate on UFO sightings during the modern era, basically from 1947 onwards. 1947 was the year of the famous Roswell incident, the event that kicked off the UFO discussion in the modern era. To Gary, there is no doubt Roswell was real. ”We will never prove they retrieved bodies. But we suspect they did.” ”Personally I believe the US government has lied to the public. There has been a campaign of disinformation–maybe for our benefit, but the bottom line is you can't keep lying. I think due to technology we're close to them losing control.” ICER's broader aim is to prepare people for such a coming paradigm shift: the E.T. Disclosure with a big D, when the media will report 24/7 about a nonhuman presence on planet Earth. ”The world is vastly underprepared”, Gary says. ”Considering what's taking place in America, it's a real possibility that there will be an acknowledgement within the next two years that we are dealing with a nonhuman interaction. But this subject has been so ridiculed for so long, so there will be a culture shock if we are not careful.” According to Heseltine, he and others in the coalition have meetings with diplomats behind the scenes. In June of 2021, the Pentagon released three videos of unidentified aerial phenomena (UAPs) and a briefing admitting to 143 unexplained encounters with UAPs. Legislation is in the pipeline entailing that the intelligence community must produce yearly reports about UAP sightings to the Congress plus a right for whistleblowers in the military and intelligence organizations to come forward without reprisals. To Gary Heseltine, this development is a historic game changer. ”For example, the public will be able to hear direct testimony for the first time from people who have been involved in nuclear weapon shutdowns by UFO intervention, like captain Robert Salas was in 1967.” What are we then seeing in the Pentagon clips? Who is visiting us? ”We believe we are dealing with something nonhuman. When you look at the broad abduction scenario across the world, there are at least five main species that seem to be identified. I think governments, especially the Americans, know a hell of a lot more than they say”, Gary says. When the truth comes out, some people will be scared or even panic. ”Because they've been lied to for 75 years, a proportion of the population will feel very vulnerable”, Gary thinks. ”We need to start preparing the public for what will be a huge shock. People could become very angry.”
UFO Disclosure: What is it? Can it be trusted? These were among the discussion points as former British police detective Gary Heseltine fielded some probing questions from Paul & Ben today. Gary is vice president of the International Coalition for Extraterrestrial Research (ICER) composed of scientists, academics and leading UFO/UAP researchers worldwide, and editor of UFO Truth magazine. He has testified in Washington, D.C., at the Citizens Hearing on UFO Disclosure. See the video of this show.
UFO Disclosure: What is it? Can it be trusted? These were among the discussion points as former British police detective Gary Heseltine fielded some probing questions from Paul & Ben today. Gary is vice president of the International Coalition for Extraterrestrial Research (ICER) composed of scientists, academics and leading UFO/UAP researchers worldwide, and editor of UFO Truth magazine. He has testified in Washington, D.C., at the Citizens Hearing on UFO Disclosure. VIDEO: https://liveshows.onworldwide.com/watch/200/behind-the-paranormal-with-paul-and-ben-eno/. AUDIO: https://www.spreaker.com/user/12463438/para112722. DOWNLOAD: https://api.spreaker.com/v2/episodes/52026799/download.mp3
A political giant for more than five decades, the man who many believe to be ‘the best Prime Minister we never had', Lord Michael Heseltine, joined DIB boss Frank McKenna in the Downtown Den this week. ‘Hezza', also affectionately referred to as ‘Tarzan' by Tory activists in the 1970s and 80s, has been at the forefront of public life since 1979 when he was given his first cabinet role by Margaret Thatcher as the Secretary of State for the Environment. He has also served as the Minister for Defence, the Minister for Trade & Industry, and Deputy Prime Minister. A staunch advocate of the UK remaining in the European Union, Lord Heseltine is President of the European Movement. Despite a general antagonism towards Conservative leaders and politicians, the city of Liverpool have made Heseltine an ‘adopted Scouser', following his pivotal role in helping to regenerate the city in the early Eighties, when he was given the title ‘Minister for Merseyside'. He was made a Freeman of Liverpool in 2012 and he is still a regular visitor to the city. In this wide-ranging conversation, the successful entrepreneur and politician discusses his role in Liverpool's renaissance; his frustrations with Brexit; his time in government; and his vision for the future. In this fascinating discussion, Lord Heseltine chats to Frank about: His role in the urban regeneration of Liverpool Devolution The overdominance of London Levelling Up Brexit and re-establishing EU relations His impressive political career Highs and lows of governments over the years Local government reorganisation His favourite Prime Minister The European Movement https://www.europeanmovement.co.uk Follow DIB here: LinkedIn Twitter Instagram YouTube
In this episode of The Jane Q. Public podQast, Q talks with her longtime internet colleague and digital marketing guru Rachel Heseltine. They discuss Rachel's Micronation Nobility; grouse in a decidedly Gen X way about other generations; and discuss what it's like to be a trans woman making her way in the world - online and off. Find Rachel online: Twitter (@YorkshireBorn) ------- Rachel Heseltine is the VP of Consumer Growth at Trader Interactive in Norfolk, VA. Her award winning team is responsible for all traffic channels for industry leading sites such as Cycle Trader and Commercial Truck Trader. Rachel has led award winning teams at ForRent (2017) and AOL (2014), also working in-house at Hewlett Packard Enterprise, and for several years on the agency side. Rachel taught digital marketing for 5 years at Georgetown University, and was on the board of SEMPO for 4 years, 2 as VP of Education. Rachel is a frequent speaker / trainer / moderator at conferences around the world on a variety of online marketing topics. She has a BA (Hons) from the University of Humberside (England), and a Masters in IT from Virginia Tech Rachel is the Duchess of Simonskorg (Ladonia). and a Dame of the Order of the Polar Cross (West Arctica) - both micronations. Rachel is a former improv / sketch comedy performer and currently writes poetry as an outlet. This Labor day will be the 30th anniversary of Rachel's move to the US from the UK.
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Gary Heseltine UFOLOGY researcher who has done more for the Rendlesham Forest and East Gate Incident than any other researcher. It is a privilege calling him friend. Enjoy! --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app
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Shoring up Cabinet: Boris Johnson hanging by a thread as Rishi Sunak and Sajid Javid walk outIn full: The resignation letters that made for painful readingHow the day unfolded: Knocked senseless by Javid and Sunak, the PM was left staggering about like Rocky in his final fightTim Stanley: Therese Coffey stared at the PM's neck, wondering what it would look like with her hands around itPolitics liveblog: New Chancellor Nadhim Zahawi criticises Sunak and Javid saying it's 'easy to walk away'Analysis: Rishi Sunak and Sajid Javid will now believe they can avoid Heseltine's fateCamilla Tominey: The PM is stuck in a Time Warp of self-delusion. Everyone else could see the show was overPhilip Johnston: Even PM cannot survive these Cabinet resignationsCameron Norrie: Wimbledon crowd finally fall in love with their British No 1'Sold out in f-----' 10 seconds!': Why buying concert tickets has become a living hellRead all these articles and stay expertly informed anywhere, anytime with a digital subscription. Start your free one-month trial today to gain unlimited website and app access. Cancel anytime. Sign up here: https://bit.ly/3v8HLez.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Jeremy discusses the history of law enforcement responding to and witnessing UFOs including a sighting captured by RCMP on dash cam that has recently come to light and the most famous incident of Police Sergeant Lonnie Zamora who came upon a crash landing in Socorro, New Mexico in 1964. Gary Heseltine, Detective Constable (Ret.) in the British Transport Police, opens up his database of officers in the U.K. who have reported their sightings and talks about the current state of ufology. Ed Wilkerson, Chief (Ret.) of Millstadt Police Department, recounts the sighting in Southern Illinois that he tracked with fellow officers on January 5th, 2000. http://parabnormalradio.com/2021/11/13/ep-462-who-ufo-gonna-call-gary-heseltine-ed-wilkerson/
ICER, the International Coalition for Extraterrestrial Research, is an organization of scientists, academics and leading UFO researchers who believe that we are not alone in the Universe. Representing 27 countries on five continents, they believe “it's time to start preparing for contact” with extraterrestrials. On this week's “Edge of Reality Radio,” I'll present ICER's Vice President, Gary Heseltine. Formerly with the UK's Royal Air Force Police, he's an ex-police detective who created a national UK database: PRUFOS (Police Reporting UFO Sightings). Gary will describe upcoming ICER efforts to get all countries involved with possible ET Contact and its global implications.
Ahead of the Conservative Party conference, Dr Victoria Honeyman, associate professor of politics at Leeds University, tells Bloomberg Westminster's Caroline Hepker and Roger Hearing she does not think Boris Johnson has stamped the party with his moniker in the way that Margaret Thatcher did. Plus: Robert Colvile, Director of the Centre for Policy Studies, raises more parallels between Johnson and the leaders of the past. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
What stopped Heseltine, Ken Clarke, Dennis Healey and Kinnock from taking the top slot? Why didn't Barbara Castle become Britain's first female PM? The Observer's Nick Cohen talks to the political columnist and podcaster Steve Richards about his new book The Prime Ministers We Never Had… the intriguing factors that prevented these politicians from reaching power… the tragedy of the Miliband Brothers… and the alternate futures we could have seen if these flawed talents had won. “Those with a formidable past tend not to take the crown BECAUSE of that past.”“If Heseltine had won the leadership contest in 1990, he would have redefined the Tories as a pro-EU party.” “The Dennis Healeys and RAB Butlers were TOO good. They alienated their own parties.”“Ken Clarke used to say ‘My hobby is standing in Tory leadership contests and losing.'” “Ed Miliband destroyed David – but David destroyed Ed too. Because Ed then lost all sense of who he was.” https://www.patreon.com/bunkercasthttps://www.hive.co.uk/Product/Steve-Richards/The-Prime-Ministers-We-Never-Had--Success-and-Failure-from-Butler-to-Corbyn/26113646 See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
Gary was born in 1960 in Scunthorpe in Lincolnshire. He served in the Royal Air Force Police (1983-1989) before spending an almost 24 year career in the British Transport Police (1989-2013). Gary was a Home Office trained Detective Constable for 19 years working on all manner of enquiries including murder, manslaughter and rape. He was an advanced police interviewer of witnesses and suspects and involved in the London Bombings terrorist enquiry as a specialist interviewer of first responding police officers. In January 2002 and whilst still a serving police officer he launched an unofficial national database for police officers reporting UFO sightings in the UK. Following the sudden death of UFO Magazine editor Graham Birdsall in September 2003 Gary launched his own online ezine called UFO Monthly which ran for 41 issues between 2004-2007. He then spent 12 months as the co-editor of UFO Data Magazine (2008), a subscription based printed magazine. In 2010 he was presented with the PRG World Disclosure Award in Washington D.C. by Steve Bassett. In 2012 he was given the Exopolitics Great Britain Award. In April 2013 he gave testimony on behalf of police officers worldwide about their UFO experiences at the Citizen's Hearings at the National Press Club in Washington D.C. He is also one of the leading researchers in the Rendlesham Forest incident, Britain's most famous UFO case. He is currently the lead researcher and co-writer of a major independent feature length documentary called Capel Green that is currently in production in the UK and the USA and due for release in 2019. Based on his police experience Gary has examined the best evidence from around the world and concluded, on a circumstantial evidence basis, that some UFO sightings involve extraterrestrials who are interacting with planet Earth. As a result of this belief he retired early from the police in 2013 to create and launch UFO Truth Magazine, a 96 page bi-monthly ezine and created especially for those people who believe that some UFO incidents involve ET. The ezine features articles by many of the world's leading researchers including Stanton Friedman (Can/US), AJ Gevaerd (Brazil), Steve Bassett (US), Grant Cameron (Can), Bill Chalker (Australia), Mary Rodwell (Australia), Suzanne Hansen (New Zealand) and Tim Good (UK) to name but a few. In April, 2013 he spoke on behalf of police officers worldwide (who had experienced UFO sightings) at the Citizens Hearings at the National Press Club in Washington D.C. The magazine holds two international conferences per year in London and Holmfirth, West Yorkshire respectively. I am the co-writer and lead researcher of a new independent feature length documentary on the Rendlesham Forest incident called Capel Green which is set for a 2019 release. He is also a screenwriter with four feature length screenplays to date and one short screenplay for an animated feature. His latest feature length screenplay (2019) *Eleven Brothers is based on a unique piece of football history (soccer) from 1914 when a family of 11 sons played against another family of 11 sons in the months prior to the outbreak of World War One. The story combines two timelines in flashback through the eyes of the mother of one of the families and through the eyes of one of her sons who fought through the horrors of the trenches. Gary was born in 1960 in Scunthorpe in Lincolnshire. He served in the Royal Air Force Police (1983-1989) before spending an almost 24 year career in the British Transport Police (1989-2013). Gary was a Home Office trained Detective Constable for 19 years working on all manner of enquiries including murder, manslaughter and rape. He was an advanced police interviewer of witnesses and suspects and involved in the London Bombings terrorist enquiry as a specialist interviewer of first responding police officers. In January 2002 and whilst still a serving police officer he launched an unofficial national database for police officers reporting UFO sightings in the UK. Following the sudden death of UFO Magazine editor Graham Birdsall in September 2003 Gary launched his own online ezine called UFO Monthly which ran for 41 issues between 2004-2007. He then spent 12 months as the co-editor of UFO Data Magazine (2008), a subscription based printed magazine. In 2010 he was presented with the PRG World Disclosure Award in Washington D.C. by Steve Bassett. In 2012 he was given the Exopolitics Great Britain Award. In April 2013 he gave testimony on behalf of police officers worldwide about their UFO experiences at the Citizen's Hearings at the National Press Club in Washington D.C. He is also one of the leading researchers in the Rendlesham Forest incident, Britain's most famous UFO case. He is currently the lead researcher and co-writer of a major independent feature length documentary called Capel Green that is currently in production in the UK and the USA and due for release in 2019. Based on his police experience Gary has examined the best evidence from around the world and concluded, on a circumstantial evidence basis, that some UFO sightings involve extraterrestrials who are interacting with planet Earth. As a result of this belief he retired early from the police in 2013 to create and launch UFO Truth Magazine, a 96 page bi-monthly ezine and created especially for those people who believe that some UFO incidents involve ET. The ezine features articles by many of the world's leading researchers including Stanton Friedman (Can/US), AJ Gevaerd (Brazil), Steve Bassett (US), Grant Cameron (Can), Bill Chalker (Australia), Mary Rodwell (Australia), Suzanne Hansen (New Zealand) and Tim Good (UK) to name but a few. In April, 2013 he spoke on behalf of police officers worldwide (who had experienced UFO sightings) at the Citizens Hearings at the National Press Club in Washington D.C. The magazine holds two international conferences per year in London and Holmfirth, West Yorkshire respectively. I am the co-writer and lead researcher of a new independent feature length documentary on the Rendlesham Forest incident called Capel Green which is set for a 2019 release. He is also a screenwriter with four feature length screenplays to date and one short screenplay for an animated feature. His latest feature length screenplay (2019) *Eleven Brothers is based on a unique piece of football history (soccer) from 1914 when a family of 11 sons played against another family of 11 sons in the months prior to the outbreak of World War One. The story combines two timelines in flashback through the eyes of the mother of one of the families and through the eyes of one of her sons who fought through the horrors of the trenches. Gary was born in 1960 in Scunthorpe in Lincolnshire. He served in the Royal Air Force Police (1983-1989) before spending an almost 24 year career in the British Transport Police (1989-2013). Gary was a Home Office trained Detective Constable for 19 years working on all manner of enquiries including murder, manslaughter and rape. He was an advanced police interviewer of witnesses and suspects and involved in the London Bombings terrorist enquiry as a specialist interviewer of first responding police officers. In January 2002 and whilst still a serving police officer he launched an unofficial national database for police officers reporting UFO sightings in the UK. Following the sudden death of UFO Magazine editor Graham Birdsall in September 2003 Gary launched his own online ezine called UFO Monthly which ran for 41 issues between 2004-2007. He then spent 12 months as the co-editor of UFO Data Magazine (2008), a subscription based printed magazine. In 2010 he was presented with the PRG World Disclosure Award in Washington D.C. by Steve Bassett. In 2012 he was given the Exopolitics Great Britain Award. In April 2013 he gave testimony on behalf of police officers worldwide about their UFO experiences at the Citizen's Hearings at the National Press Club in Washington D.C. He is also one of the leading researchers in the Rendlesham Forest incident, Britain's most famous UFO case. He is currently the lead researcher and co-writer of a major independent feature length documentary called Capel Green that is currently in production in the UK and the USA and due for release in 2019. Based on his police experience Gary has examined the best evidence from around the world and concluded, on a circumstantial evidence basis, that some UFO sightings involve extraterrestrials who are interacting with planet Earth. As a result of this belief he retired early from the police in 2013 to create and launch UFO Truth Magazine, a 96 page bi-monthly ezine and created especially for those people who believe that some UFO incidents involve ET. The ezine features articles by many of the world's leading researchers including Stanton Friedman (Can/US), AJ Gevaerd (Brazil), Steve Bassett (US), Grant Cameron (Can), Bill Chalker (Australia), Mary Rodwell (Australia), Suzanne Hansen (New Zealand) and Tim Good (UK) to name but a few. In April, 2013 he spoke on behalf of police officers worldwide (who had experienced UFO sightings) at the Citizens Hearings at the National Press Club in Washington D.C. The magazine holds two international conferences per year in London and Holmfirth, West Yorkshire respectively. I am the co-writer and lead researcher of a new independent feature length documentary on the Rendlesham Forest incident called Capel Green which is set for a 2019 release. He is also a screenwriter with four feature length screenplays to date and one short screenplay for an animated feature. His latest feature length screenplay (2019) *Eleven Brothers is based on a unique piece of football history (soccer) from 1914 when a family of 11 sons played against another family of 11 sons in the months prior to the outbreak of World War One. The story combines two timelines in flashback through the eyes of the mother of one of the families and through the eyes of one
ICER launched at the end of May, and in this episode we talk to Vice-President Gary Heseltine and the UK Deputy Dave Hodrien all about their mission and work they are doing and aim to do, all under the mantra that some UFOs sightings can be explained with the extraterrestrial hypothesis. We also get their thoughts on the recent Pentagon UFO Report and what it means for the future of the subject in the UK and around the world. We finish the show findng out more about the upcoming kickstarter launch of the UFO Wave card game, the brainchild of Dave Hodrien. Find out more about ICER HERE Find out more about UFO Wave HERE We would love to hear your thoughts on this episode! Share your story or contact us to say Hi! at podcast@pursuitoftheparanormal.co.uk Check us out in the following social media platforms Facebook - www.facebook.com/pursuitoftheparanormalpodcast Instagram - www.instagram.com/pursuitoftheparanormal Also check out our regularly updated website - www.pursuitoftheparanormal.co.uk --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/pursuitoftheparanormal/message
Science & Beyond with Joe Montaldo we have Gary Heseltine along with our great panel
Science & Beyond with Joe Montaldo we have Gary Heseltine along with our great panel
Loren and Simon will be discussing Simon's SEO journey from the publisher side at AOL (TechCrunch & HuffPo) to his current "marketplace SEO" focus at Trader Interactive and previously with ForRent.com, and then a bit on working with smaller teams to efficiently get the SEO job done. Simon Heseltine is the VP of the award winning Audience Growth at Trader Interactive (Best In-House Team of 2020 at the Global Search Awards)
Hull has had some of the highest infection rates in the country this week. The team take a look at why that is the case with BBC Look North's Health Correspondent Vicky Johnson. Singer and former Hollyoaks actress Twinnie Lee-Moore from York discusses the impact of coronavirus on the performing arts sector. She also talks about how she's spending lockdown and about moving back in with her mum. Former deputy Prime Minister Lord Heseltine talks about the importance of levelling up the north, a single Yorkshire mayor and his spitting image persona. Producer: Louise Wheeler Studio Director: Qendresa Zena Sound: Adam Campbell
British Detective Gary Heseltine speaks about an amazing UFO sighting in his youth, his thoughts on Rendlesham Forest, his groundbreaking UFO reporting system, PRUFOS (Police Reporting UFO Sightings) database which caters for serving and retired British police UFO sighting reports. He has amassed over 500 cases involving more than 1,100 British police officers and more. Check out our blog on Police Offers that Became UFI Investigators: https://podcastufo.com/blog/police-of...This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5922140/advertisement
Simon Heseltine with Jason Barnard at Ungagged Los Angeles 2019 Simon Heseltine talks with Jason Barnard about SEO for Publishing with AOL. AOL were very very big and were going to dominate the world. Did the CD work? Yes it did. At one point, for 2 weeks, no other CDs were produced in the world. Simon Heseltine was doing SEO for TechCrunch, but the journalists didn't want to listen. So he took them out to lunch and charmed them into submission. Problem solved! Both Simon and AOL were precursors. They had a two-pronged approach – copywriting and tech. Then onto examples of extreme preciceness, then the vagueness in queries and results… and how queries change with story evolution (and articles must change too). Play on people's vanity to get them to do what you want. Sounds very creepy, but is less so than it sounds.
Simon Heseltine with Jason Barnard at Ungagged Los Angeles 2019 Simon Heseltine talks with Jason Barnard about SEO for Publishing with AOL. AOL were very very big and were going to dominate the world. Did the CD work? Yes it did. At one point, for 2 weeks, no other CDs were produced in the world. Simon Heseltine was doing SEO for TechCrunch, but the journalists didn't want to listen. So he took them out to lunch and charmed them into submission. Problem solved! Both Simon and AOL were precursors. They had a two-pronged approach – copywriting and tech. Then onto examples of extreme preciceness, then the vagueness in queries and results… and how queries change with story evolution (and articles must change too). Play on people's vanity to get them to do what you want. Sounds very creepy, but is less so than it sounds.
Paul & Ben welcome retired British police official and UFO researcher Gary Heseltine back to the show to update us all on the most recent and dramatic encounters between police and UFOS.
Richard welcomes a noted British Ufologist to discuss his database which tracks eye-witness sightings of UFOs by the police. GUEST: Gary Heseltine served in the RAF Police between 1983-1989 before spending a 24 year career in the British Transport Police He was a Home Office trained Detective Constable for 18 years working on all manner of enquiries including murder, manslaughter and rape. He was an advanced police interviewer of witnesses and suspects. He also was involved in the London Bombings enquiry as a specialist interviewer of first responding police officers. In January 2002 whilst still a serving police officer he launched an unofficial national database for police officers reporting UFO sightings called PRUFOS. He is the editor of UFO TRUTH MAGAZINE.
Retired British police official Gary Heseltine, keeper of what is probably the world's greatest database of police encounters with UFOs, share some of the strangest cases from his extensive files.
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Retired British police officer and UFO researcher Gary Heseltine retirns to the show to full us in on that latest UFO news from the UK.
Paul & Ben welcome British UFO researcher Gary Heseltine for a discussion of the much-vaunted 'disclosure' movement, the demand that governments, especially in the US, reveal what they know about UFOs and an alien presence. Paul & Ben don't agree that governments can be trusted.