Podcast appearances and mentions of stephen roach

The Beauty of Authenticity — John Van DeusenSongwriter John Van Deusen joins Makers & Mystics to explore the beauty of authenticity in art, faith, and vocation. In a creative landscape that often rewards certainty and success, John reflects on the cost—and freedom—of making honesty the point.At the center of the conversation is his latest album, As Long As I Am In The Tent of This Body I Will Make A Joyful Noise, a shape-shifting, faith-inflected collection that resists tidy resolutions and embraces vulnerability, doubt, joy, and embodied life.Together, host Stephen Roach and John Van Deusen talk about creative calling, audience expectation, near-successes, family life, and why authenticity remains a risky—but faithful—posture for artists.Send us a textSupport the show Get Tickets to The Breath and The Clay 2026 featuring Malcolm Guite, Jon Guerra, and Jonathan Pageau! March 20-22 in Winston-Salem, NC.

Our worship director, Olivia Dyer, brings an inspirational message about creativity and expression. The first thing we read about God in the Bible is that He created and that we are created in his likeness. If we are created in His likeness, then even if you don't believe you are a creative person, He has made you to create. May you be encouraged this week to approach creativity in worship as we finish our 21 day fast! Book references from sermon: "Naming the Animals" by Stephen Roach"The Peace of Wild Things" by Wendell BerryIn addition to this message, we encourage you to look at our 21 Day Fast website at www.bighousechurch.com/fast26 for more details, instructions, and especially to view our "Ways to Worship" PDF, which provides daily prompts on a weekly basis, which were intentionally crafted to partner with each week's message. Be blessed in your fasting and worship!---Big House Church is cultivating a community of passionate worshippers who partner with Jesus to create a kingdom culture on earth as it is in heaven. We regularly meet on Sundays @ 9 & 11 AM at the Zeider Theater in Town Center Virginia Beach.Learn more at www.bighousechurch.com.

What role does beauty play in a fractured and hurried world—and what might happen if we allowed it to slow us down?This episode marks the beginning of a new Makers and Mystics series, The Pace of Beauty, exploring how beauty invites us into a more attentive and spiritually grounded way of living.In this opening conversation, Stephen Roach is joined by Winfield Bevins, author, artist, and founder of Creo Arts, a missional arts community awakening the world to the beauty of the Christian story.  Together, they explore the themes of Winfield's book How Beauty Will Save the World and reflect on the intersection of art, faith, and community.Winfield shares personal stories of how art became a lifeline during a formative season of his life, and how creative practices can function as spiritual disciplines. He emphasizes the transformative power of beauty and the arts in a broken world, advocating for a deeper integration of creativity within the church. Book Offer for ListenersOaks Press is offering listeners of Makers and Mystics a free copy of Winfield Bevins's book How Beauty Will Save the World. Simply cover the cost of shipping and use the code MAKERS at checkout.Get your copy here: How Beauty Will Save the World — Oaks PressResourcesHow Beauty Will Save the World by Winfield BevinsCreo ArtsMakers and Mystics PodcastSend us a textSupport the show Get Tickets to The Breath and The Clay 2026 featuring Malcolm Guite, Jon Guerra, and Jonathan Pageau! March 20-22 in Winston-Salem, NC.

What if beauty isn't an escape from the outrage and exhaustion of the world—but a form of resistance against it?In a culture overrun with anxiety and uncertainty, turning toward beauty can feel almost defiant. In this episode of Makers & Mystics, host Stephen Roach is joined by theologian, poet, and cultural critic Jonathan P. Walton to explore how beauty forms us for resilience, integrity, and repair—both personally and communally.Drawing from his book Beauty and Resistance: Spiritual Rhythms for Formation and Repair, Walton reflects on the spiritual and emotional work required to live truthfully in a hurried, narcissistic culture. Together, they discuss the tension between joy and guilt, the importance of celebration and lament, and the danger of the false self in spiritual formation.Jonathan introduces the Four Rs—Rest, Restore, Resist, Repeat—as a crafted rule of life that helps us resist what deforms us while cultivating beauty, depth, and intentional living. He also shares the backstory behind his poem “Change of Plans,” offering insight into how community, faith, and honesty shape the long journey toward wholeness.This conversation is an invitation to slow down, tend to what is wounded, and rediscover beauty not as escape—but as faithful resistance.Resources & LinksBeauty and Resistance: Spiritual Rhythms for Formation and Repair — Jonathan P. WaltonSupport The Podcast —  Join our Patreon growing community! http://www.patreon.com/makersandmysticsSend us a textSupport the show Get Tickets to The Breath and The Clay 2026 featuring Malcolm Guite, Jon Guerra, and Jonathan Pageau! March 20-22 in Winston-Salem, NC.

In this episode of Makers and Mystics, host Stephen Roach is joined by Jared Farley of Porter's Call, a nonprofit dedicated to supporting the emotional and mental health of touring artists and their families.Together, they explore the tension between persona and person, stage life and home life, and the unique pressures artists face when identity becomes brand. The conversation examines the impact of fame on the human soul, the importance of sustainable rhythms, and why community and storytelling are essential for healing and wholeness.Jared shares insights into why the soul is not built for fame, how isolation fuels addiction, and how intentional care and connection help artists return to themselves. Whether you're a touring musician, a creative professional, or someone seeking greater integration in your life, this conversation offers practical wisdom for the journey toward wholeness.ResourcesPorter's Call: https://www.porterscall.comBackline: https://backline.care/Makers and Mystics Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/makersandmysticsSend us a textSupport the show Get Tickets to The Breath and The Clay 2026 featuring Malcolm Guite, Jon Guerra, and Jonathan Pageau! March 20-22 in Winston-Salem, NC.

In this episode, Stephen Roach sits down with creative collaborators Justin McRoberts, Whitney Hancock, and Corey Frey for a conversation about the art of building authentic creative community.From introducing their new online offering, "The Light Between," to a behind-the-scenes look at the upcoming Breath and the Clay 2026 event, themed "Making Space," this conversation explores how artists can create meaningful spaces for vulnerability, process, and mutual discovery in their creative work.This episode is a celebration of artistic collaboration, meaningful friendship, and the quiet transformation that happens when we make room for mystery. About the Guests:Corey Frey is a visual artist, poet, and musician based in Frederick, Maryland. Alongside his wife Christy, he co-founded The Well Collaborative, a community devoted to wonder, hospitality, and creativity. Corey serves as Exhibitions Manager at the Delaplaine Arts Center and is also a co-host of the Makers & Mystics Creative Collective book clubs.Justin McRoberts is an author, speaker, musician, and spiritual director whose work bridges storytelling, faith, and creative formation. Through books, retreats, and mentorship, Justin helps people uncover their voice and live with greater authenticity. His work invites individuals and communities into deeper reflection, meaningful transformation, and a more embodied approach to creativity and spiritual life.Whitney Hancock is an embodiment coach and creative director whose work centers on restoring presence, emotional honesty, and embodied spirituality. A former founding director of the Redding City Dance Company, Whitney now leads spaces—online and in person—where movement, breath, and nervous system awareness help people reconnect with the sacred intelligence of their bodies.Stephen Roach is the founder of The Breath & The Clay and host of the Makers & Mystics podcast. He is a poet, creative mentor, and multi-instrumentalist with a background in ethnomusicology and film composition. His forthcoming book, How To See Invisible Things, will be published in October 2026 with Zondervan Reflective.Opportunities & Resources:

Paul Anleitner, John Mark McMillan, and Stephen Roach discuss the deeper meaning embedded in Netflix's new Frankenstein. https://www.makersandmystics.com/   Subscribe to my FREE weekly newsletter: https://paulanleitner.substack.com/ Support my work on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/deeptalkstheologypodcast

In this inter-seasonal episode, Stephen Roach is joined by returning guests Paul Anleitner and John Mark McMillan for a discussion of Guillermo del Toro's new Frankenstein adaptation. Together they explore del Toro's visual storytelling, the spiritual and theological roots of Mary Shelley's original vision, and why horror remains one of the most powerful vehicles for truth in our modern age.What We DiscussMary Shelley's Origin Story The Geneva “ghost story” challenge, volcanic winter, and the dream that inspired Frankenstein—plus the timely synchronicity with Stephen's upcoming book.Del Toro's Visual Parable Color symbolism, the contrast between Victor and the creature, and how the film communicates its meaning through pure imagery.Theology, Philosophy & Monsters Del Toro's spiritual connection to the story, humanity's desire to play creator, and how horror works only within a moral universe.Ambition, Ego & Shadow Victor and the creature as two halves of the same self, crucifixion imagery, and why many successful people feel they've “created monsters” of their own.Why Horror Still Haunts Us Horror as enchantment, ancient narrative patterns, and our longing for stories that reveal hidden cosmic significance.GuestsPaul Anleitner – paulanleitner.substack.comJohn Mark McMillan – johnmarkmcmillan.comHostStephen Roach, author of the upcoming How to See Invisible Things (October 2026). makersandmystics.com • thebreathandtheclay.comSend us a textSupport the show Get Tickets to The Breath and The Clay 2026 featuring Malcolm Guite, Jon Guerra, and Jonathan Pageau! March 20-22 in Winston-Salem, NC.

In this brief inter-seasonal update, Stephen Roach shares what is happening within the Makers and Mystics community, where the podcast is headed next, and what to expect at the next Breath and The Clay event, March 20-22, 2026. The Breath and The ClayJoin our creative collectiveSend us a textSupport the show Get Tickets to The Breath and The Clay 2026 featuring Malcolm Guite, Jon Guerra, and Jonathan Pageau! March 20-22 in Winston-Salem, NC.

AI integrations fail when they replace human connection entirely. Stephen Roach, VP of Ecosystems and AI at Qualified Digital, explains why customers immediately reject automated experiences that lack human touchpoints. He outlines designing better handoff triggers between AI and human agents, implementing contextual personalization that adapts to individual customer needs, and creating hybrid experiences that enhance rather than replace human interaction.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

AI integrations fail when they replace human connection entirely. Stephen Roach, VP of Ecosystems and AI at Qualified Digital, explains why customers immediately reject automated experiences that lack human touchpoints. He outlines designing better handoff triggers between AI and human agents, implementing contextual personalization that adapts to individual customer needs, and creating hybrid experiences that enhance rather than replace human interaction.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

AI implementations fail when companies eliminate human touchpoints entirely. Stephen Roach, VP of Ecosystems and AI at Qualified Digital, specializes in integrating machine learning models for Fortune 500 brands like McDonald's and Hyundai. He advocates for strategic handoff triggers that route complex queries to human agents and contextual personalization systems that adapt AI responses to individual customer profiles. The discussion covers designing AI experiences that enhance rather than replace human interaction across customer service workflows.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

AI implementations fail when companies eliminate human touchpoints entirely. Stephen Roach, VP of Ecosystems and AI at Qualified Digital, specializes in integrating machine learning models for Fortune 500 brands like McDonald's and Hyundai. He advocates for strategic handoff triggers that route complex queries to human agents and contextual personalization systems that adapt AI responses to individual customer profiles. The discussion covers designing AI experiences that enhance rather than replace human interaction across customer service workflows.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Most marketing leaders are automating AI without human oversight. Stephen Roach, VP of Ecosystems and AI at Qualified Digital, explains why customers reject purely automated experiences and demand human interaction. He outlines designing better handoff triggers between AI and human agents, implementing contextual personalization that adapts to individual customer plans and needs, and creating quality checkpoints where humans validate AI outputs before customer-facing deployment.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Most marketing leaders are automating AI without human oversight. Stephen Roach, VP of Ecosystems and AI at Qualified Digital, explains why customers reject purely automated experiences and demand human interaction. He outlines designing better handoff triggers between AI and human agents, implementing contextual personalization that adapts to individual customer plans and needs, and creating quality checkpoints where humans validate AI outputs before customer-facing deployment.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this season finale, Stephen Roach closes out our exploration of creative flow with a rich conversation with several artists from the Makers & Mystics Patreon community. Joining the discussion are artist and educator Angela Houk, writer and branding expert Steve Brock, and poet and visual artist Corey Frey.Together, the crew explores the interplay between resistance and flow—how creative blocks, limitations, and even frustrations can actually become the conditions that allow new work to emerge and personal character to develop. As Wendell Berry reminds us, “the impeded stream is the one that sings.”This episode examines:Why resistance can be a gift in the creative process.How Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi's theory of flow connects to happiness and fulfillment.The balance between focus and receptivity in both art and relationships.How preparation, practice, and openness set the stage for flow.The “radical middle” where challenge and skill convergeConnecting the experience of flow to the Holy SpiritThis is a thoughtful, inspiring conversation on navigating resistance, finding flow, and staying open to the creativity that emerges when we least expect it.Connect with the guests:Angela HoukSteve BrockCorey Frey–––Support the Podcast If you'd like to go deeper in these conversations and be part of the Makers & Mystics creative collective, consider joining us on Patreon. You'll gain access to monthly online gatherings, bonus content, creative prompts, and a vibrant community of artists pursuing faith and imagination together.

AI customer interactions fail when companies prioritize automation over human connection. Stephen Roach, VP of Ecosystems and AI at Qualified Digital, explains why Fortune 500 brands need strategic human oversight in their AI implementations. He outlines better handoff triggers between AI and human agents, contextual personalization frameworks that adapt to individual customer needs, and experience design principles that integrate AI without eliminating the human element customers actually want.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

AI customer interactions fail when companies prioritize automation over human connection. Stephen Roach, VP of Ecosystems and AI at Qualified Digital, explains why Fortune 500 brands need strategic human oversight in their AI implementations. He outlines better handoff triggers between AI and human agents, contextual personalization frameworks that adapt to individual customer needs, and experience design principles that integrate AI without eliminating the human element customers actually want.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

AI integration fails when companies ignore human interaction needs. Stephen Roach, VP of Ecosystems and AI at Qualified Digital, specializes in balancing automation with human-centered customer experiences for Fortune 500 brands. He outlines designing better handoff triggers between AI and human agents, implementing contextual personalization that adapts to individual customer plans and preferences, and creating AI systems that enhance rather than replace human touchpoints in customer service workflows.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

AI integration fails when companies ignore human interaction needs. Stephen Roach, VP of Ecosystems and AI at Qualified Digital, specializes in balancing automation with human-centered customer experiences for Fortune 500 brands. He outlines designing better handoff triggers between AI and human agents, implementing contextual personalization that adapts to individual customer plans and preferences, and creating AI systems that enhance rather than replace human touchpoints in customer service workflows. Stephen Roach: Website // LinkedInThe MarTech Podcast: Email // LinkedIn // TwitterBenjamin Shapiro: Website // LinkedIn // TwitterSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

While Sunday Sanctuary is on a break, we want to share episodes from podcasts that we think you'll really like. This week: Makers & Mystics. This episode is from season 13 of Makers and Mystics, "the podcast for the art-driven, spiritually adventurous seekers of truth and lovers of life." In this episode, Stephen Roach and his guest, John Heers, discuss viewing "hospitality as revolution". Big thanks to Stephen for letting us share this episode. If you like what you hear, you can find Makers & Mystics wherever you listen to podcasts. Makers & Mystics website Makers & Mystics Instagram

Stephen Roach talks about how, as the former chairman of Morgan Stanley Asia, h ehad the hear of many Asian political leaders. But as he became more pessimistic about the Chinese economy, China's leadership became less interested in what he had to say.About Peking HotelThe Peking Hotel podcast and newsletter are digital publications in which Liu He interviews China specialists about their first-hand experiences and observations from decades past. The project grew out of Liu's research at Hoover Institution collecting oral history of China experts living in the U.S. Their stories are a reminder of what China used to be and what it is capable of becoming.Podcast musicTommy H. Brandon, The Last Road Trip. Artlist Original Music.Tomer Lavie, Silky Secrets. Artlist Original Music.Roie Shpigler, Clarity. Artlist Original Music.PBS, American Experience: Police Tactics at the Dow Demonstration. 2017. Get full access to Peking Hotel at pekinghotel.substack.com/subscribe

John Mark McMillan is a Platinum-selling American singer-songwriter, born in Charlotte, NC. Stephen Roach is an author, musician, and founder of The Breath & the Clay, a creative community at the intersection of art, faith, and culture. As host of the Makers & Mystics podcast, he curates conversations that help artists recover wonder and live with deeper spiritual attention.   Subscribe to my FREE weekly newsletter: https://paulanleitner.substack.com/ Support my work on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/deeptalkstheologypodcast

Behind the curtain of cinema lies a hidden language, spoken not in words, but in sound.In this episode of Makers and Mystics, Stephen Roach interviews Foley artist Ronnie Van Der Veer, exploring the intricate world of sound design in film. Ronnie shares his journey into Foley art, the importance of creating realistic sound effects, and the techniques he employs to enhance the cinematic experience. The conversation explores the creative process behind sound symbolism, and practical advice for aspiring Foley artists. Through case studies of films like 'The Occupant' and 'The Forgotten Battle,' listeners gain insight into the art of sound and its profound impact on storytelling.About the guest:  Ronnie van der Veer is an award winning foley artist from the Netherlands. From his studio just outside Amsterdam he has worked on movies like The Lobster by Yorgos Lanthimos, Girl by Lukas Dhont, war movie The Forgotten Battle and various Netflix, Disney and Amazon Originals. Ronnie uses his background as a drummer in his work as a foley artist.See more of Ronnie's work:www.foleytales.comInstagram https://www.instagram.com/foley.tales/Films referenced in this episode:  The Forgotten Battle: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10521092/?ref_=nm_knf_t_2The Occupant: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7230422/?ref_=nm_flmg_job_1_cdt_t_6Connect with Makers and Mystics:Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/makersandmysticsInstagram: http://www.instagram.com/makersandmysticsAPPLY FOR OUR NOVEMBER 21-23, 2025 WRITER'S RETREAT IN THE BEAUTIFUL MOUNTAINS OF N.C. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScaiDW84Ktc1KH1JLt236fNPaiKW22E_XnzJqIgjHc5zijzfA/viewform?usp=headerSend us a textSupport the show Get Tickets to The Breath and The Clay 2026 featuring Malcolm Guite, Jon Guerra, and Jonathan Pageau! March 20-22 in Winston-Salem, NC.

Amy Leigh Wicks is a poet, actress, and educator from New York City. She holds a PhD in Creative Writing from Victoria University of Wellington in New Zealand and an MFA from The New School in New York. She recently served as Dean of Performing Arts at Bethel Conservatory of the Arts and is the author of The Dangerous Country of Love and Marriage (Auckland University Press, 2019) and Orange Juice and Rooftops (Eloquent Books, 2009).In this episode, Stephen Roach talks with Amy about the intersection of presence, performance, and poetic confession. Their conversation explores the emotional depth of character work, the daily rhythms that sustain creativity, and the subtle terrain where vulnerability gives way to transcendence.At the heart of the conversation, Amy unpacks the idea of confessional transcendence—the mysterious way raw honesty in art can lead beyond self-expression into something sacred and universal. Through personal stories and reflections, she explores how poetry and acting together deepen her awareness of beauty, pain, and the human condition. The episode culminates in a moving reading of her poetry that embodies the very themes explored.Resources: Get Amy's Book: The Dangerous Country of Love and MarriageSupport The Podcast! Show some love! If this, or other episodes, have helped you in your creative/spiritual journey, become a monthly patron. Follow us on InstagramSend us a textSupport the show Get Tickets to The Breath and The Clay 2026 featuring Malcolm Guite, Jon Guerra, and Jonathan Pageau! March 20-22 in Winston-Salem, NC.

How does imagination shape not only our art but our spiritual formation? And what does it mean to hold space for play, growth, and even disappointment within our creative process?In this episode, Stephen Roach is joined by Jon Guerra — a singer, songwriter, and film composer based in Austin, Texas, whose work is marked by its devotional nature and spiritual depth.Jon shares the inspiration behind his latest record, Jesus, a deeply personal and contemplative album born from the tension between daily life and artistic calling. The conversation explores his experience scoring Terrence Malick's A Hidden Life, the unpredictable and iterative nature of the creative process, and how imagination serves as a vital tool in both spiritual formation and the search for creative flow.Topics Include:Imagination as a tool for spiritual and artistic formationFinding creative flow amidst life's changing seasonsThe role of play, growth, and disappointment in the creative processScoring for film and the collaborative, iterative nature of that workThe inspiration behind Jon's new album JesusThe relationship between daily demands and sustained creativitySupport The Podcast:One time donation or monthly Send us a textSupport the show Get Tickets to The Breath and The Clay 2026 featuring Malcolm Guite, Jon Guerra, and Jonathan Pageau! March 20-22 in Winston-Salem, NC.

In this soul-stirring episode of What Are You Made Of?, Mike "C-Roc" sits down with musician, poet, and creative visionary Stephen Roach for a powerful conversation that fuses rhythm, art, spirituality, and authenticity. Fresh off an inspiring trip to Utah with Richard Branson, Mike "C-Roc" dives into Stephen's rich Southern roots, growing up surrounded by bluegrass musicians and discovering his voice through poetry and experimental music. Stephen shares his unique musical journey—from leading drum circles at Grateful Dead shows and composing cinematic scores to founding The Breath & the Clay creative arts community and Makers & Mystics, a podcast exploring the intersection of art and faith.Their discussion flows through everything from death metal and smoke bombs to world music, DNA and musical resonance, and even the unlikely appeal of a Selena Gomez track. They also explore the nuances of spiritual identity, the difference between dogma and relationship, and how true greatness starts with self-love and radiates outward. With candid stories, humor, and deep reflection, this episode reminds us that creativity, belonging, and belief can coexist in powerful ways—and that being made of “rhythm and bones, poetry, music, and a love for home” is something to celebrate.Website-http://makersandmystics.com Social Media Links/Handles-https://www.instagram.com/thebreathandtheclay/?hl=en https://www.instagram.com/makersandmystics/?hl=en

In this concluding segment of our Artist Roundtable, Stephen Roach, Corey Frey, and Donna Matthews continue their conversation on ecstatic experiences, flow states, and the artist's impulse through a Christian lens. This episode explores ecstatic states in both Pentecostal and Orthodox traditions, highlighting the shared hunger for transcendent encounter across streams of faith. The discussion also hits on the need for a deeper theological framework around flow states, offering both spiritual and practical insights for artists navigating these immersive creative moments.About The Guests: Donna Matthews is a musician and creative artist. In the 1990's she played lead guitar in Elastica and lo-fi, DIY band Klang, and in subsequent years devised and facilitated creative workshops for people in recovery from addiction. She is currently in her final year of a practice-based PhD in Music at the University of Glasgow. Interested in issues such as poetic intuition, inspiration, and gift, her work explores how the intuitive state might be conveyed through aesthetic form, while also exploring improvisation as a means of 'undoing form' to experience the inspired state.Corey Frey is a visual artist, poet, and musician. He and his wife, Christy, are the founders of The Well Collaborative, a community in Frederick, Maryland, dedicated to wonder, hospitality, and creativity.  Corey works as the Exhibitions Manager at The Delaplaine Arts Center in Frederick's downtown area. He is also the co-host of the Makers and Mystics podcast's creative collective book clubs.Stephen Roach is the host of the Makers and Mystics Podcast and the founder of The Breath and The Clay creative arts organization. He is a published author, keynote speaker, and multi-instrumentalist with a background in ethnomusicology and film composition. He has penned five volumes of poetry, a practical guide for artists titled Five Creativity Killers and How To Avoid Them, and his most recent book, Naming The Animals: An Invitation To Creativity, published by Square Halo Books. Stephen lives in North Carolina with his wife, Sarah, and children Evangelyn Belle and Isaac Brighton. His next book, published by Zondervan Reflective, is scheduled for release in October 2026. Resources: The Gifted State: Previous episode with Donna MatthewsIf you've been inspired by this podcast, please consider helping us continue our work of advocating for the arts by becoming a monthly patron at http://www.patreon.com/makersandmystics As an independent creator, your generosity enables us to continue our work! Thank you!!Send us a textSupport the show Get Tickets to The Breath and The Clay 2026 featuring Malcolm Guite, Jon Guerra, and Jonathan Pageau! March 20-22 in Winston-Salem, NC.

In this Artist Roundtable, Stephen Roach, Corey Frey, and Donna Matthews explore the concept of flow states, ecstatic experiences, and their intersections with art and faith. They discuss how creative processes can lead to profound spiritual encounters, the importance of vulnerability and surrender in accessing these states, and the role of discernment in navigating spiritual experiences. This Two-Part conversation highlights the deep longing for human connection, speaking in tongues, and the challenges artists face within faith communities.About The Guests: Donna Matthews is a musician and creative artist. In the 1990's she played lead guitar in Elastica and lo-fi, DIY band Klang, and in subsequent years devised and facilitated creative workshops for people in recovery from addiction. She is currently in her final year of a practice-based PhD in Music at the University of Glasgow. Interested in issues such as poetic intuition, inspiration, and gift, her work explores how the intuitive state might be conveyed through aesthetic form, while also exploring improvisation as a means of 'undoing form' to experience the inspired state.Corey Frey is a visual artist, poet, and musician. He and his wife, Christy, are the founders of The Well Collaborative, a community in Frederick, Maryland, dedicated to wonder, hospitality, and creativity.  Corey works as the Exhibitions Manager at The Delaplaine Arts Center in Frederick's downtown area. He is also the co-host of the Makers and Mystics podcast's creative collective book clubs.Stephen Roach is the host of the Makers and Mystics Podcast and the founder of The Breath and The Clay creative arts organization. He is a published author, keynote speaker, and multi-instrumentalist with a background in ethnomusicology and film composition. He has penned five volumes of poetry, a practical guide for artists titled Five Creativity Killers and How To Avoid Them, and his most recent book, Naming The Animals: An Invitation To Creativity, published by Square Halo Books. Stephen lives in North Carolina with his wife, Sarah, and children Evangelyn Belle and Isaac Brighton. His next book, published by Zondervan Reflective, is scheduled for release in October 2026. Resources: The Gifted State: Previous episode with Donna MatthewsIf you've been inspired by this podcast, please consider helping us continue our work of advocating for the arts by becoming a monthly patron at http://www.patreon.com/makersandmystics As an independent creator, your generosity enables us to continue our work! Thank you!!Send us a textSupport the show Get Tickets to The Breath and The Clay 2026 featuring Malcolm Guite, Jon Guerra, and Jonathan Pageau! March 20-22 in Winston-Salem, NC.

It's summer, that means everyone is hitting links (provided our meteorologist Paul Piorek recommends it). So we welcomed Stephen Roach from Fairchild Wheeler to the Melissa in the Morning Diner Tour to talk about golf! Image Credit: Logo by Meghan Boyd, Edit by Eric Urbanowicz

In this episode, Stephen Roach explores creative flow as a generative, life-giving way of being. He highlights the need for trust in the process and the vulnerability that comes with sharing one's art. Stephen encourages listeners to embrace rhythms of rest and rebirth and imitate the ocean. Join the Makers and Mystics Creative Collective Support the podcast with a one-time donation. Send us a textSupport the show Get Tickets to The Breath and The Clay 2026 featuring Malcolm Guite, Jon Guerra, and Jonathan Pageau! March 20-22 in Winston-Salem, NC.

Leah Song is a storyteller, song-catcher, musician, poet, and community builder. She's best known as the front-woman of the beloved band Rising Appalachia, which she leads alongside her sister Chloe.As a solo artist, Leah draws from the rich traditions of Southern soul, the diasporic sounds of the Celtic Isles, and her deep studies of folk music from across the Americas.In this episode, Leah talks with Stephen Roach about her journey through music, exploring the intersections of various cultural traditions and how the pace of our lives impacts creative flow.  Resources: Join the Makers and Mystics Creative CollectiveSupport The Podcast with a one-time donationPatreon: Patreon.com/makersandmysticsSend us a textSupport the show Get Tickets to The Breath and The Clay 2026 featuring Malcolm Guite, Jon Guerra, and Jonathan Pageau! March 20-22 in Winston-Salem, NC.

Flow begins with attentiveness. In this episode, Stephen Roach shares how tuning the room became a creative and spiritual practice.Welcome to Season 15 of Makers & Mystics. In this opening episode, host Stephen Roach invites listeners into the unfolding journey of Finding Flow—not just as a creative high, but as a sacred rhythm and intentional spiritual practice.Anchored in a story from his experience as a touring musician, Stephen shares how he developed a pre-show ritual: using a sustained drone and improvised melody to “tune the room”—to draw the audience (and himself) into a space of collective attentiveness. It became more than a musical practice; it became a way of entering flow, of opening space for something beyond performance to emerge.In this episode, Stephen explores:What it means to prepare a space for creativityHow flow requires attentiveness and surrenderThe parallels between creative flow and spiritual presenceWhy the environment we create—internally and externally—matters to our artWhether you're a musician, painter, poet, or simply someone longing to move through the world with greater presence, this episode will help you begin to tune your own room—and step into your creative flow.Featured Music: Songs of WaterJoin the Creative Collective: PatreonSupport the Podcast with a one-time donation: SupportFollow Us on Instagram:  @makersandmysticsFive Creativity Killers Book: Get the book mentioned in this episode.  Send us a textSupport the show Get Tickets to The Breath and The Clay 2026 featuring Malcolm Guite, Jon Guerra, and Jonathan Pageau! March 20-22 in Winston-Salem, NC.

In this final conversation of our BC25 introductions, Stephen Roach, Corey Frey, and Dr. Marie Teilhard discuss the complexities of art that challenge conventional boundaries. They explore themes of heretical art, the distinction between shock art and risk art, and the importance of trust and exploration in the creative process. **Trigger Warning: This episode deals with sensitive subject matter such as self-harm and cutting. Follow Makers and Mystics on Instagram: @makersandmysticsConnect with Dr. TeilhardConnect with Corey FreySpecial Thanks to our patrons and friends who help us keep this train running. If you've been inspired by the Makers and Mystics podcast and would like to show the love, you can give a one-time donation here or become a monthly patron here. Send us a textSupport the show Get Tickets to The Breath and The Clay 2026 featuring Malcolm Guite, Jon Guerra, and Jonathan Pageau! March 20-22 in Winston-Salem, NC.

Amanda Cook is a writer/musician/lover of books whose music explores the intersections of faith/doubt, love/loss, hope/despair, and fun/notfun. In this episode, Amanda talks with Stephen Roach about her latest EP Survey: Part 2 along with her thoughts on reconciling faith and art and the motivations behind her creative process. This episode continues our introductions to the presenters who will be with us at BC25.Resources: The Breath and The Clay (virtual & In person tix available.)Follow us on InstagramHelp us continue our work by becoming a monthly patron or by giving a one time donation. Send us a textSupport the show Get Tickets to The Breath and The Clay 2026 featuring Malcolm Guite, Jon Guerra, and Jonathan Pageau! March 20-22 in Winston-Salem, NC.

What role does contemplative prayer have in healing the fractures of our modern culture and those of our own fragmented lives? And how can our spiritual and creative practices offer an antidote to the chaos of contemporary life?In today's episode, we're exploring these questions with best-selling author, counselor, and teacher John Eldredge. Drawing insights from his latest book, Experience Jesus. Really: Finding Refuge, Strength, and Wonder Through Everyday Encounters with God, John highlights several themes that align with those of our upcoming Breath and Clay creative arts gathering. He shares insights on what it means to live in the hour of fragmentation and how we can reconnect to the integrating center of all things. Resources: Makers and Mystics Creative CollectiveThe Breath and The Clay event! March 21-23rd in Winston Salem, NC. Use the code DREAM25 for a discount on registration! Credits: Episode Sponsor:  Be. Make. Do. Podcast. Music: Some Were At Sea Produced by Stephen Roach and Brightbell CreativeSend us a textSupport the show Get Tickets to The Breath and The Clay 2026 featuring Malcolm Guite, Jon Guerra, and Jonathan Pageau! March 20-22 in Winston-Salem, NC.

Creativity isn't a talent reserved for a select few—it's a way of being. In this inspiring episode of The 1000 Hours Outside Podcast, Ginny Yurich welcomes Stephen Roach, host of the Makers & Mystics podcast and founder of The Breath & the Clay gathering, to explore the heart of creativity and why it matters now more than ever. Stephen shares his deep-rooted creative journey, from growing up in a musical Appalachian family to becoming a musician, author, and advocate for artistic expression. Together, they discuss the five creativity killers (comparison, fear, passivity, consumerism, and perfectionism), how failures actually enrich the soil for future success, and why contemplation is an essential but often overlooked ingredient in creative work. This conversation is packed with wisdom on how to embrace your unique creative expression, overcome fear, and cultivate wonder in daily life. Whether you think you're creative or not, this episode will challenge you to rethink how you show up in the world. Plus, Stephen shares details on The Breath & the Clay gathering, a unique event at the intersection of art, faith, and culture. Tune in for an inspiring discussion that will leave you with a renewed perspective on creativity, failure, and the beauty of embracing your own story.

In this engaging conversation, Jason and Stephen Roach explore the intersection of art, faith, and creativity. They discuss the importance of embracing failure, the value of dreaming, and the generational impact of their work.Stephen shares his journey as an artist and instigator, emphasizing the need for honest reflection and the role of community in understanding God. The dialogue highlights the shift in their perspectives on spirituality and the significance of legacy in their creative endeavors.The guys explore themes of disappointment, identity, and the creative journey, particularly in the aftermath of COVID-19. They discuss the importance of journaling, reflection, and community in navigating challenges and cultivating hope.The conversation also highlights the upcoming The Breath And The Clay gathering, which aims to bring together creatives to explore the theme of wholeness amidst life's fragments.Exploring The Intersections of Art, Faith and Culture: A Creative Arts Gathering in Winston Salem, NC March, 21-23, 2025For More Information: https://www.thebreathandtheclay.com/Discount Code DREAM25For more on Stephen RoachWebsite: https://www.thebreathandtheclay.com/Podcast: https://www.makersandmystics.com/For more content like this, go to:https://afamilystory.org/Please rate, review, share, and SUBSCRIBE!Podcast intro and outro music by Wilde AssemblyJoin A Family Story's Mailing Listhttps://landing.mailerlite.com/webforms/landing/e2f4i4Join Rethinking God with Tacos Facebook Group at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/godandtacosFollow Rethinking God with Tacos on Instagram at:https://www.instagram.com/rethinkinggodwithtacos/Follow Jason's personal Facebook page at: https://www.facebook.com/afamilystory.org/Follow Jason on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/jasonclarkis/ Follow Jason on X at: https://x.com/jasonclarkis Send a donation!! https://app.moonclerk.com/pay/36393kxxeh8

This episode offers a preview of the types of panels we'll be hosting at The Breath and The Clay 2025. It includes a live conversation with Grammy Award-winning singer/songwriter Victory Boyd, gospel recording artist Leeland Mooring, visual artist and curator Corey Frey, and podcast host Stephen Roach.This conversation was recorded live at the Resound Creative Arts event in Boulder, Colorado.Reserve Your Spot at The Breath and The Clay March 21-23 in Winston Salem, NC.

In this series of conversations, Makers and Mystics will highlight several of the presenters and themes for the BC25 creative arts gathering, March 21-23, in Winston Salem, NC. Today's guest is Theo-poet and mystic Dr. de'Angelo DIA. The conversation explores the intersections of poetry, theology, and personal experience. DIA discusses how his early exposure to literature and comic book mythology shaped his understanding of sacredness and black charismatic spirituality. Stephen Roach highlights BC25 themes of fragmentation and wholeness, the search for the divine in secular spaces, and the influence of neo-Appalachian art on DIA's work.Learn more about Dr. de'Angelo DIAGet Tickets to BC25Join the Makers and Mystics Creative Collective Treat us to a cup of coffee for our work on the podcast.

In the season 14 finale of Makers and Mystics, Stephen Roach reflects on the theme of reclaiming wonder. Drawing from personal stories, spiritual insights, and the wisdom shared by this season's guests, Stephen examines how we can rediscover awe and beauty in our everyday lives, even in a world that often feels disconnected from the miraculous.Stephen closes the episode with a thought-provoking insight: Wonder is not just an experience; it's an invitation. It's the residue of the divine, a call to transformation, and a reminder that we are made for more than survival. When we open ourselves to wonder, we become what we behold and begin to see the possibility for beauty and meaning in every corner of life.Get Tickets to The Breath and The Clay Join the Makers and Mystics Creative CollectiveHelp us continue our work with a one-time donation.

Makers and Mystics has teamed up with New Zealand's Sunday Sanctuary Podcast for a special collaborative episode.For the November 10th episode of Sunday Sanctuary, Stephen Roach joins host Petra Bagust for a chat about poetry, creativity, and the different ways that noticing the small wonders of the world can reopen, restore, and change our lives.In this segment of the conversation, Petra and Stephen discuss the wonder found in Maori culture, storytelling, and the gift of our elders.Petra Bagust is a multi-talented Aotearoa, New Zealand media personality, writer, and advocate. Her passion for creativity and ethical living resonates with a wildly diverse audience, making her one of New Zealand's most sought-after radio and television hosts since the nineties.Join our creative collectiveGive a one-time donationAttend our Advent Book Club!

Melbourne-based visual artist and electronic musician Mike Lane creates under the name Chalom, a name spoken to him in a dream. His practice consists of visually expressing dreams and meditations, with mostly found materials, embedded bible pages, penciled notes, and spray paint. Beyond the haphazard backgrounds of his paintings, brushes or tools are rarely used in the making, just hands and fingers employing scrawly texts, scribbles, and vaguely figurative forms.CHALOM's prolific work is a deeply spiritual practice, and he loves to write blessings and prophecies, hidden under the paintings for the viewer to experience as mysteries and positive energetic flow, intended to shift the atmosphere in the spaces where the works are hung.In this episode, Chalom talks with Stephen Roach about his creative process and the deeply-felt spiritual underpinnings behind his visual art.Topics: Dreams and VisionsAbstract ArtRisk in ArtSurprise in Art Experiencing the Now Name Drops: Ludwig Von Zinzendorf Henri Nouwen Rivertribe Become a Patron! Help us continue our work!

In this episode, podcast host Stephen Roach takes listeners on a journey into the world of ecstatic poetry. Drawing from the wisdom of Trappist Monk, Thomas Merton and author/scholar Michael Edwards, Stephen highlights poetry as mankind's first language. He tells us, the meaning of a poem is not found in what a poem is about, but rather what effect the poem has on it's hearer. Through reciting several of his own poems, Stephen reveals poetry and the poetic encounter as a doorway to wonder.THE BREATH AND THE CLAY WRITER'S RETREAT Oct. 25-27 in Moravian Falls, NC. APPLY NOW.Join our creative collectiveGive a one-time donationPurchase A Collection of Stephen's Poetry

Cleo Rinkest is a South-African actor who has worked with the likes of Samuel L Jackson, The Walking Dead's Callan McCauliff, and Game of Thrones, Charlotte Hope. Through her acting, she seeks to perform stories that go beyond entertainment and enlighten her audiences to values of human flourishing. Her current film projects follow themes of justice and mercy, capital punishment laws in Southern Africa, the supernatural realm, and the impact of AI on humanity. In our conversation, Cleo shares about the sacred service of the actor, the role of empathy in her art form and how she embodies the personas of the characters she portrays. In keeping with our season theme Reclaiming Wonder, I asked Cleo what reclaiming wonder looks like in her life. Be sure to listen to the end for her answer. If you're a patron of podcast, we reserved a special segment of our conversation exclusively for you. In that segment, Cleo shares about the aspect of collaboration and the challenges of being a working actor in South Africa. Help us continue our work! We can't do this without your support. If this podcast has been meaningful to you, show the love.You can give a one-time donation here or join our monthly creative collective here.Thank you, friends!Poema: An Online Course by Stephen Roach

Wonder is all around us. In every moment, in every mundane or grand occasion. The earth and all that is in within it, is an unfolding poem spoken from divine lips in search of an audience. In this introductory episode, Stephen Roach shares the groundwork for this season's exploration of Reclaiming Wonder. He says, “It is the artist whose work bridges the realm of everyday life with the realm of mystery and deeper meaning. It is the artist who again re-enchants the world and helps us to reclaim our sense of wonder.” Join the creative collective!

In this live talk, recorded at the Audiofeed Festival in Urbana, Illinois, Stephen Roach encourages listeners that the value of a dream is not contingent upon its coming to pass. The value of a dream, he says, is in the dreaming. For anyone, who has grappled with the death of a dream or the pain of letting go, this talk will encourage you that a dream can take many shapes and forms and that nothing is wasted. Join the Makers and Mystics Creative CollectiveTake Stephen's FREE course on Creativity & FearSupport the podcast with a one-time donation.

If you're a regular listener to the podcast then you know that we haven't produced our regular episodes for the past few weeks. And if you follow us on Instagram or get our email newsletters then you know the reason why. On May 27th, my studio laptop was stolen. In light of this event and feeling disoriented, I began to study the word 'orient.'I discovered that ‘orient' means to arrange something as to face east. The implication is to look in the direction of the sunrise. To be disoriented then means a time of darkness. And to be reoriented means looking past the darkness to a rising sun. ⁣ ⁣This short update is an encouragement for anyone who has felt themselves disoriented or interrupted.You can contribute to the cause here.You can become a monthly patron here.

This week's episode is a collaboration with Lisa Smith of the Be. Make. Do. Podcast! We are flipping the mic around for this one and inviting fellow podcaster, Lisa Smith to ask MM host, Stephen Roach a few questions about the importance of community in the life of the artist and why gathering together now is such an important part of our creative work and the process of healing from social isolation. You can learn more about Lisa's community of artists at soulmakers.org or see the show notes of this episode. In just a few weeks Lisa and several of the artists from her community will be joining us at The Breath and The Clay creative arts gathering to host a workshop on Curating Wholeness: Building A purposeful world through Art. Join the Makers and Mystics Creative Collective

This cultural moment may be one of history's most interesting times to find home among a community of likeminded people with whom we identify. On the one hand we are more connected than we ever have been (thank you internet) and yet at the same time, people feel more disconnected than ever before. Isolation and loneliness have become an epidemic. So much so, in May of 2023, the surgeon general put out a statement calling isolation and loneliness a public health crisis. In this introductory episode, podcast host Stephen Roach sets the stage for this season's conversations and discusses how the artist can respond to the need for community and become an agent of healing for our culture.Build community with us at The Breath and The Clay March 22-24 in Winston Salem, NCGo deeper into these conversations with our online community Music by: Some Were At Sea