So There I Was

This week's episode was recorded live at King Mackerel's Beach Tavern Bar & Grill in Moorehead City, NC, right after the historic Harrier Sundown Ceremony at Cherry Point. In Segment 1, call sign Ag—a Texas Aggie and former Harrier XO—takes you on an unforgettable journey crossing the Atlantic to Desert Storm. From a midnight “Casablanca” goodbye at Cherry Point to dangerous night tanking with KC‑10s, metal-to-metal probe contact, a thunderstorm with St. Elmo's fire, and a tense close ID with an Israeli E‑2, Ag's story is a masterclass in nerve, precision, and naval aviation under pressure.Segment 2 shifts to DC-style storytelling with Derek from dcartworks.net, the artist behind stunning 3D metal squadron patches, Harrier bottle openers, and custom whiskey glasses. He shares a heart-stopping Afghanistan emergency airdrop in the Korangal Valley—jumping over 16 bundles to fix a ramp/door issue, realizing he's three feet from the edge with no tether, and facing Taliban fire below. Plus, we uncover how D.C. drove updated tactics and seeker-equipped bombs that prevent the guesswork Harrier pilots endured. Tune in—for service, art, and stories that will stop your heart.

Buggsy joins us to talk Flight school, Joining the Navy, Flying Harriers, Sundown Ceremony and more!

A near mid-ground collision by Strecken and

Col Bill Wehrung - Horny sits with us to talk Naval Academy, Marine Aviation - including 235 combat missions in Vietnam, getting hit twice and an amazing career spanning 3 decades... starting before Safety Standards were a 'thing!'

Fig & RePete go over several aviation topics - including the F/A-18 Growler Mid Air collision in Mountain Home Idaho, last week.

Brain joins us to talk Flight School, Harriers, Drones and F-35s! Funny, touching... Don't miss this Great American!

Bonk, Top Gun, Marine MAWTS-1 and Test Pilot Stories kick off with him bobbing in the Pacific after less than 500 flight hours in total flight time! Actually, that's just the warmup. This week on So There I Was, Fig and RePete sit down with Bonk, a former Test Pilot School graduate, Top Gun instructor, and MAWTS pilot whose career somehow became more insane every decade. One minute he's failing eye exams. Consequently, he almost misses aviation entirely. The next minute he's disconnecting A-4 flight controls in flight and wondering if this was really the best career choice. Then things get weird. Bonk talks about ending up in the water early in his career. Furthermore, he explains what happens when you suddenly discover the ocean is now your office. There are stories about VMFA-531, absurd amounts of flight time, and the strange reality of becoming “the old guy” while still doing incredibly dumb fighter pilot things. Wait, what? At one point, Bonk casually explains flying through an afterburner plume because he heard it. Heard it. Not saw it. Heard it. Naturally, that turns into a discussion about air combat maneuvering, test flying, and the tiny margin between “legendary story” and “aviation mishap report.” The episode also dives into: Top Gun and MAWTS culture Test Pilot School insanity Zero-G flights Engine testing Why Boards of Inquiry can ruin your week The origin of the callsign “Bonk” The strange process of translating fighter pilot language into something normal humans understand This episode feels like sitting at the bar after a squadron reunion while somebody keeps saying, “No seriously… this actually happened.” And somehow, every story gets crazier. Sponsor Spotlight – DCArtworks creates custom CNC-cut aviation and military artwork that honestly belongs in a ready room or squadron bar. Their handcrafted steel work is ridiculously good, and nearly every piece is custom-built to tell your story. Check out DCArtworks.net and talk to Derrick about building something unique for your office, hangar, or home. Sponsor Spotlight – We're excited to partner with OneSkin, a company founded by PhD scientists dedicated to skin longevity. Rather than just masking the signs of aging, OneSkin's proprietary OS-01 peptide targets the biological root causes of skin aging at the molecular level. It's a simple, science-backed addition to your daily routine that helps your skin stay resilient and healthy, no matter how much time you've spent in the cockpit or out on the water. It's dermatologist-tested and even has the National Eczema Association Seal of Acceptance, so it's safe for the most sensitive skin. Get 15% off OneSkin with the code STIW at oneskin.co/STIW#oneskinpod

This week kicks off with Kemo back in the saddle, and it goes sideways immediately! Actually, this one starts fast. No warmup. No easing in. Just straight into stories that make you stop and go, wait… what? Kemo's back. And if you've heard him before, you already know this is going to be ridiculous. If you haven't—well, buckle up. This is one of those episodes where the stories don't just escalate… they stack. First, we get into how his name came to be. Sounds simple, right? It's not. Then somehow we're talking about Marine Corps commandants, open bars, and a story that absolutely should not exist—but does. Furthermore, things pivot hard into airline life. Boeing vs Airbus logic. MD-11 decisions. The kind of stuff that sounds boring—until it isn't. Because the real question becomes: what happens when automation replaces instinct? And then… carrier ops. Night landings. Yellow shirts. That moment where you're taxiing and thinking, “this feels wrong,” but also knowing it's exactly right. Consequently, the conversation shifts into something deeper—manual flying skills vs modern systems. Then comes the F-35 discussion. This is where it gets interesting. Helmet tech. Sensor fusion. Seeing through the jet. It sounds like science fiction, but it's not. The real debate? Whether pilots are gaining capability… or losing something critical. Meanwhile, Kemo's stories keep landing like punches. Red trucks. Target talk-ons. Situations where you're listening and thinking, “there's no way this ends well…” But it does. Somehow. Eventually. And just when you think it's wrapping up, we detour into three-eyed turtles, legacy, and a closing stretch that feels like the perfect bar story ending—half reflection, half chaos. So yeah… this one's a ride.

Doober comes back to tell of his acquisition of former US Marine Corps H-34 helicopter, YL-37. The helicopter restoration story starts with a mission that sounds simple. It is not. Actually, it quickly turns into a “wait, what?” situation. This episode picks up with Doober and the ongoing saga of bringing YL-37 back from the brink. The aircraft is not just old. It is stubborn. Furthermore, every step forward seems to uncover two new problems. At first, it looks manageable. Then reality shows up. Parts are rare. Systems are tired. And the deeper you go, the more you realize this is not just a restoration. It is a resurrection. Consequently, the team has to make decisions that are equal parts engineering and gut instinct. Do you rebuild? Replace? Or walk away? (Spoiler: nobody walks away.) Meanwhile, the human side of this story becomes the real hook. The persistence. The frustration. The small wins that feel huge. Actually, those moments are what keep the whole thing moving. Then comes the turning point. A breakthrough that shifts everything. But does it stick? Or is this just another setup for the next problem? By the end, YL-37 is more than a machine. It represents effort, risk, and a refusal to quit. And yeah… you will absolutely wonder if you would have stuck with it this long.YL-37 helicopter restoration story starts with a mission that sounds simple. It is not. Actually, it quickly turns into a “wait, what?” situation. This episode picks up with Doober and the ongoing saga of bringing YL-37 back from the brink. The aircraft is not just old. It is stubborn. Furthermore, every step forward seems to uncover two new problems. At first, it looks manageable. Then reality shows up. Parts are rare. Systems are tired. And the deeper you go, the more you realize this is not just a restoration. It is a resurrection. Consequently, the team has to make decisions that are equal parts engineering and gut instinct. Do you rebuild? Replace? Or walk away? (Spoiler: nobody walks away.) Meanwhile, the human side of this story becomes the real hook. The persistence. The frustration. The small wins that feel huge. Actually, those moments are what keep the whole thing moving. Then comes the turning point. A breakthrough that shifts everything. But does it stick? Or is this just another setup for the next problem? By the end, YL-37 is more than a machine. It represents effort, risk, and a refusal to quit. And yeah… you will absolutely wonder if you would have stuck with it this long. This episode proudly sponsored by DCArtworks.net and OneSkin at https://www.oneskin.co/SoThereIWas  #oneskinpod #sponsored #ad YL-37 helicopter restoration story engine and mechanical rebuild workScreenshot YL-37 helicopter restoration story nearly completed aircraft on ground

This is part two with Al Cisneros, and this time, it opens in a hurry. No notice. Grab the jet. Haul critical intel. Get it to Saigon—fast. Actually, what starts as a straightforward courier mission quickly takes on weight. The tasking is urgent, the stakes are real, and the realization hits that this flight matters far beyond just flying from point A to point B. Furthermore, that opening story sets the tone for the entire episode. From there, the conversation expands into a full career arc. Early uncertainty. Lessons learned the hard way. Moments of pressure that shape judgment and confidence. Consequently, the stories build into something bigger than individual flights. You hear how experience stacks over time. How decisions compound. And how leadership isn't assigned—it's earned. Anf of course, what a small world Aviation in general is, and Naval Aviation in particular. By the end, the through-line is clear. The guy flying that mission becomes the one others look to for direction. And yeah… the path between those two points is anything but predictable.

This episode drops you straight into one of those situations pilots train for—but hope never happens. A routine mission turns serious fast when the fuel state stops being a number and starts becoming a problem. Not a “tight on gas” problem. A zero fuel over hostile territory problem. And now the math matters. Range, burn rate, options… none of them look good. As the situation unfolds, you'll hear how quickly cockpit priorities shift. There's no room for denial. Gauges are questioned. Assumptions get challenged. And the reality sets in: this might end with an ejection into a very bad place. Then comes the sliver of hope—a tanker. But even that isn't simple. Different aircraft, mismatched speeds, and a setup that doesn't quite work on paper. What follows is a tense, improvised attempt to make something possible out of something that really shouldn't be. The story walks through the decision-making, the physics, and the human side of being right on the edge. There are moments of calm, flashes of clarity, and a few “this is really happening” realizations that hit hard. By the end, it's not just about how it worked out—it's about what it took to get there, and what sticks with you long after a flight like that is over. Tune in to this week’s show for the build up and amazing stories – and next week, we close the loop!

Fig & RePete kick back for a raw hangar-talk session unpacking aviation's razor edge: LaGuardia runway crash layers failing Swiss-cheese style, sim freezes hiding ghost jets, and C-130 crews lining up on the wrong damn strip packed with paratrooper Chinooks. Lessons learned? Night viz traps, CRM meltdowns, bozo announcements, and “shut up, navigator” tricks that nearly sparked war's biggest fireball—plus hand-on-head foul-deck signals and trainee controller fumbles. Irreverent, technically sharp close-call confessions that'll have pilots nodding and laughing darkly.

The C-130 flight engineer is a disappearing breed. However, the stories remain. In this episode of So There I Was, DC pulls back the curtain on high-stakes aircrew life. We explore the Air National Guard culture and the “routine” moments that turn sideways. Why is the Flight Engineer being phased out? We discuss what is lost when a computer replaces a human eye. We also spend some time chatting about DCArtworks – Online at DCArtworks.Net – DC is a sponsor of our show and – Go check out his amazing work – you will want SOMETHING either for yourself or as a gift. These are AMAZING pieces for the person who has everything… cuz they don’t got one of these! From crew dynamics to the reality of flying with “Fig,” DC shares the grit of a career spent in a Herc. Beyond the cockpit, we are also supporting our airmen downrange in Operation Old Spice by providing necessities they can’t access while deployed. This is a wandering hangar story where “normal” is only a temporary state of mind. … C130 #FlightEngineer #AirNational Guard Click the Photo to Donate

Naval aviation stories rarely go as planned. This episode of So There I Was features Matt “Taco” Bell sharing his wildest moments… This episode of So There I Was delivers multiple “wait, what?” moments from Matt “Taco” Bell, from getting in trouble over a low transition (yeah… that didn't go well), to realizing just how terrifying it is to be the instructors’ instructor in Kingsville, to being “in the barrel” at night trying to get aboard the boat. And talk about a small world?!?! — The jumpseat story hits. Consequently, this is one of those episodes where every segment somehow tops the last. Episode 203 Highlights Low Transition Trouble: Taco shares a naval aviation story about a flight maneuver that went lower than expected and the debrief that followed. Kingsville Instruction: Insights into the high-stakes environment of training the next generation of Navy pilots. Night Carrier Landings: A firsthand account of being “in the barrel” and the precision required for night operations. The Jumpseat Story: A unique connection that proves how small the aviation community really is. If you enjoyed these naval aviation stories, check out our previous episodes featuring F-14, F-18, and A-6 Intruder pilots. Each episode of So There I Was brings you the raw, unscripted reality of life in the cockpit. …#aviation #navalaviation #pilotstories

Nasty's worst day Navy starts when a young Tomcat hopeful hears “you're a qual” on the radio, then “you're a disqual” at the ladder. Consequently, that gut punch on the Lex knocks his timeline off, pairs him with Bug Roach, and quietly sets the stage to help save two lives later. Actually, he walks from Key West heartbreak in a TA-4J Skyhawk to the bridge of Nimitz, with failures, promotions, and a near-buoy strike with an admiral watching. Furthermore, he digs into rules of engagement over Afghanistan, AI-driven factories that can out-build China, and why straight, honest leadership keeps people alive at sea and in combat. The “wait, what?” is how Nasty's worst day Navy becomes the best thing that ever happened to his career, and to a couple of people who are still breathing because of it. Adm Manazir Commanded the USS Nimitz Adm. Manazir’s Leadership Maxims This week we acknowledge the tragic loss of RS-2 Tyler Jaggers US Coast Guard. Please consider donating to help support his family in this difficult time: https://tinyurl.com/tylerjaggers

He Heard Me Go By pilot story comes from Navy pilot Stretch Curran, who flew the massive A-3 / EA-3 Skywarrior “Whale,” the largest jet routinely launched from aircraft carriers. In Episode 201 of So There I Was, Stretch joins us for a wide-ranging hangar-talk conversation about flying the Whale from carriers, the realities of multi-crew naval aviation, and the kind of moments that make pilots stop talking for a second. Furthermore, Stretch describes launching at night from USS Midway when an electrical fire and system failures suddenly complicate the mission. Consequently the crew must stabilize a very large jet in darkness and poor weather while troubleshooting failures in real time. But that's only one of the stories. The episode also explores the unique world of EA-3 electronic warfare missions, life operating the largest aircraft ever routinely flown from carrier decks, and the culture of the Whale community. Then comes the moment that gave the episode its title. During one maneuver another pilot later reported he “heard me go by.” Wait… what? Consequently the conversation turns to close passes, crowded training airspace, and the kind of unexpected moments that become legendary sea stories. If you enjoy naval aviation stories, carrier flying, and ridiculous pilot bar stories, Episode 201 delivers all of it. … #navypilot #aviationpodcast #a3skywarrior #carrieraviation #navalaviation #militaryaviation #pilotstory #aviationstory #carrierlanding #aviationhistory #navyaviation #aviationlife #aviationgeek #fighterpilotstories #sothereiwas

Royce Williams Medal of Honor recipient joins the show to recount a legendary tale. Imagine bringing a knife to a gunfight. In this case, the knife is a subsonic F9F Panther. Furthermore, the guns are seven Soviet MiG-15s. This was just a typical Tuesday for Captain Royce Williams.   In this episode, we unpack a 35-minute dogfight hidden for half a century. The government kept it secret to avoid a “diplomatic risk.” Consequently, we dive into how Royce used his underpowered jet like a ballerina. He dodged 760 rounds of Russian spite. Then, he limped back to the carrier in a jet that looked like Swiss cheese.   Actually, this is the greatest naval aviation story you weren’t allowed to hear for fifty years. It finally features a new Medal of Honor and 73 years of “I told you so.” If you've ever wondered how a lone naval aviator survives a supersonic ambush, this is for you. We explore pure pilot skill and aggressive engine management.   Stay Connected: Subscribe To The Podcast: https://sothereiwas.us/subscribe/ Follow Us On Twitter: https://x.com/There_I_Was Follow Us On TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@so_there_i_was Website: https://sothereiwas.us … #MedalOfHonor #KoreanWar #MiG15 #NavalAviation #Dogfight #F9FPanther #AviationHistory #PilotStories #AviationPodcast #RoyceWilliams #NavyHero #DogfightStories #MilitaryAviation #FlightTest #FighterPilot

This aviation podcast episode explores real pilot stories, flight safety lessons, and ATC coordination. We dive into the extreme demands of flying high-performance military aircraft like the SR-71 Blackbird.   SR-71 pilot stories don't get much better than this. On this episode of So There I Was, we sit down with BC Thomas. As the highest-time SR-71 Blackbird pilot in history, BC discusses Mach-3 flying and flight test insanity. He shares the kind of aviation decision-making that only happens at 80,000 feet while moving faster than a rifle round.   From WWII Inspiration to the Cold War Ready Room BC's journey began with early inspiration during WWII. His career spanned flying the KC-135, C-130, and F-104 before he eventually strapped into the legendary Blackbird. This episode offers a front-row seat to Cold War aviation history. We tell these SR-71 Blackbird test pilot stories the way they sounded in the ready room: honest, irreverent, and occasionally unbelievable.   BC explains what it takes to earn a seat in the Blackbird. The process requires months of systems training and intense blindfold cockpit checks. He describes a safety culture where experts dissect mistakes with surgical precision.   Surviving Mach-3 Unstarts and Hangar Mishaps In this interview, you'll hear about Mach-3 unstarts that try to swap ends with the airplane. BC also recounts his F-104 “zoom rocket” adventures and the intense pressure of test pilot school. These SR-71 Blackbird test pilot stories even cover why flying the world's fastest jet can leave you mildly disappointed when nobody shoots at you.   Surprisingly, BC's closest call didn’t happen at high altitude. It happened while he was sliding sideways across a hangar floor at a walking pace. He found himself pointed directly at a blast fence in a multi-million dollar jet.   Why You Should Listen to This Aviation Podcast If you enjoy SR-71 Blackbird test pilot stories, this episode is packed with aviation storytelling and pilot lessons. It delivers the kind of safety wisdom that only comes from flying the most demanding aircraft ever built. Listen in to hear how BC survived these high-stakes missions long enough to laugh about them. … #SR71 #blackbird #aviation

Discover gripping F-106 pilot stories, test pilot emergencies, and aviation safety lessons from a career pushing airplanes—and luck—to the brink. Buckle up for Da Benj's wild ride from F-106 ice-breaking sonic booms over frozen Lake Superior to praying “Please God, don't let me F-up” in the cockpit of the Douglas Aircraft ‘Bird of Prey’—because who straps an Air Force test pilot into a company-funded tech demo that flies like a drunk penguin? This aviation legend spills absurd tales of trapped fuel emergencies, French test pilot school spins that nearly pancaked a Casa 212, and why the 777 feels like it reads your mind better than your spouse. Dive into pilot stories that make you question every career choice while laughing your ass off at near-death absurdities only a true sky god survives. … #aviation #pilot #avgeek #testpilotstories #pilotstories #aviationsafety #militaryaviation #airforcetestpilot #fighterpilotstories #airlinepilotstories #flightinstructor #aviationpodcast #SoThereIWas #NeverRelax

In 1967, legendary author John Steinbeck climbed into a Huey helicopter over Vietnam—and what he wrote afterward was so raw, so strange, and so brutally honest that it still messes with pilots and historians today. This episode dives into the Vietnam War helicopter experience through Steinbeck's eyes: the sound, the fear, the weird calm, and the “ecstasy” of combat aviation that only those who've strapped into a military aircraft truly understand. We unpack what happens when a world-class writer meets rotary-wing warfare head-on, why Huey pilots in Vietnam lived on a knife edge between poetry and panic, and how Steinbeck captured the psychology of flight, risk, and survival better than most official war histories ever did. It's part aviation storytelling, part Vietnam War history, and part “what did I just read?”—told the only way pilots can: with irreverence, curiosity, and a healthy respect for anyone who willingly steps into a machine designed to hover over a jungle full of people shooting at it. If you've ever wondered what flying a Huey in Vietnam felt like, how war correspondents experienced combat aviation, or why pilots sometimes describe danger in oddly beautiful terms… buckle up. This one's a ride.From Vietnam War Huey helicopter missions to pilot safety, ATC coordination, and the strange psychology of combat aviation storytelling, this episode explores how flying in war changes everyone who touches the sky. Stay Connected: Subscribe To The Podcast: https://sothereiwas.us/subscribe/ Follow Us On Twitter: https://x.com/There_I_Was Follow Us On TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@so_there_i_was Website: https://sothereiwas.us … #VietnamWar #HueyHelicopter #MilitaryAviation #VietnamWarHistory #HelicopterPilot #CombatAviation #WarStories #AviationPodcast #PilotStories #JohnSteinbeck #VietnamHelicopter #AviationHistory #TrueWarStories #USMilitaryHistory #SoThereIWasPodcast

The Beginning of My Crime Spree sounds like a joke—until Captain Mike “Masher” McGrath explains how survival inside the Hanoi Hilton sometimes meant quietly breaking the rules. In this episode of So There I Was, Masher, a retired US Navy A-4 Skyhawk and A-7 Corsair pilot, recounts flying 179 combat missions over Vietnam before being shot down in 1967 and spending nearly six years as a Prisoner of War in Hanoi. He shares firsthand stories of resistance, resilience, and the subtle “crimes” POWs committed to survive captivity—communicating in secret, organizing under pressure, and refusing to break. Told with dry humor, clarity, and perspective earned the hard way, this conversation offers an unfiltered look at life as a POW during the Vietnam War and how human will, discipline, and leadership endured under brutal conditions. Masher also discusses how he later documented these experiences through stark artwork and his book Prisoner of War—Six Years in Hanoi. This is not history from a textbook—it's lived experience, told straight. … #VietnamWar #POW #HanoiHilton #NavalAviation #MilitaryHistory #AviationPodcast #SoThereIWas #CombatStories #WarStories #USNavy #A4Skyhawk #A7Corsair #Leadership #Resilience #TrueStories

So there I was… five miles from the runway at Stansted, flaps moving from 35 to 50 on an MD-11, when the airplane abruptly rolled to nearly 60 degrees of bank on short final. That's not a metaphor. That actually happened. In this episode of So There I Was, Fig and RePete sit down with Chubbs, a Guard fighter pilot turned FedEx check airman, for a master-class in aviation storytelling, decision-making, and pure “how did we survive that?” moments. From a flap literally departing the aircraft and landing between cars at a pub, to CRM failures so bad they ended careers, to Guard shenanigans involving stolen cars, helicopters, and a flattened Crown Vic — this one covers it all. Along the way, we dive into MD-11 systems quirks, high-stakes line checks, cargo ops into combat zones, fatigue, judgment calls on short final, and why sometimes the smartest move is to undo the last thing you did and land the airplane. Equal parts hilarious, terrifying, and educational — exactly how aviation stories should be told. … #AirlinePilotLifestyle #WhatIsIOEForPilots #AviationHumor

In this episode of So There I Was, Fig and RePete are joined by Kemo and they sit down with two air traffic controllers to talk about what pilots never see — and rarely understand — on the other side of the mic. From go-arounds that mean “you're not trying hard enough,” to near-miss moments that make an entire tower pucker, this conversation pulls back the curtain on how airspace actually gets managed. Along the way, we dig into controller training timelines that rival military pipelines, staffing shortages that stretch patience and margins, and what it's like working a shutdown while still moving metal safely. Then things go sideways — canceled takeoffs for iguanas on the runway, Brasher warnings explained, and stories that absolutely did not make it into the AIM. It's equal parts aviation reality check, dark humor, and behind-the-scenes storytelling — and once you hear it, you'll never hear ATC the same way again. This episode dives into air traffic control stories, control tower moments, pilot experiences,aviation storytelling, flight safety discussions, and behind-the-scenes ATC perspectives. … #AirTrafficControl #AviationPodcast #SoThereIWas

New Year's Eve, no guest, and somehow the cockpit still turns into a full-blown sitcom. Fig & RePete kick off with a takeoff that goes sideways at V1 when “rotate” gets called… and apparently translated into “stare blankly into the void.” From there, it's the perfect hangout episode: Top Gun continuity crimes (medals disappear, sunglasses teleport), a hard pivot into the Air India 787 post-rotation dual-engine power-loss mystery (and why one explanation feels disturbingly too plausible), and a buffet of leadership horror stories that'll make you grateful for every normal human you've ever flown with. Plus: quiet professionals, jumpseat survival tactics, and one legendary “turn the checklist 90 degrees” power move that ends exactly how it should. Funny, sharp, and just unhinged enough to feel like the crew room after midnight.

This week’s So There I Was episode is a Hangout — that happens when you put pilots, controllers, and a few proud troublemakers in the same virtual room and hit “record.” We swap the kind of stories that never fit in a checklist: a Harrier night recovery that ended six inches from a very bad day, a Learjet that missed an airliner by 100 feet in IMC, and a “UFO” sighting that turned out to be Starlink doing accidental aerobatics in the sun's glare. Then Heater drops in and casually explains how Top Gun almost became a dark vampire movie (until someone showed the director what blue sky actually looks like). Add laser-strike rage, EMAS explained for non-pilots, and the annual reminder that the Marines were the in-flight entertainment. Happy New Year—check six, and don't touch the igniter wiring. Sticks Heater Scotty Bag O Pawel Dizzy Porky Fig RePete

This is what happens when you put a Navy Tomcat legend behind a camera and let him tell the story his way. Heater takes us from KC-135 tanker ops with that infamous hard hose, to the kind of “how'd-you-do-that?” plug where he's steady on the basket and still managing to grab photos mid-refuel. Then we pivot into Top Gun lore from someone who was actually there: the “Star Wars on Earth” in more ways than one; the image that helped ignite the franchise; two days of filming “You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin',” and the blink-and-you'll-miss-it mystery of a possible Darth Vader lurking in the background of the bar scene. Along the way, Heater breaks down what aviation photography really takes: planning, timing, composition, and the occasional blind shot that somehow becomes iconic. And years later, he's still uncovering gems in old slide boxes that prove the best pictures sometimes outlive the moment by decades. Long-form, hilarious, and packed with aviation history and insider detail. F-14 on the Fantail Heater Paint Scheme

Episode 190 is what happens when you hand the mic to Captain CJ “Heater” Healy and then just try to keep up. Heater takes us from a childhood obsession with WWII airplanes to roller-coaster “G-training,” to flying—then teaching—at the highest levels of naval aviation. Along the way, we hit the $10 “Mexican Justice of the Peace” wedding that turned into a 53-year marriage, the fighter-pilot path that almost didn't happen, and the mind-bending world of MiGs at Area 51 — yes, the ones that “smelled like a hydraulic leak with an electrical fire.” — Heater also reveals how a single photograph helped spark Top Gun, plus what it was like being on set and shooting real missile events that almost ended VERY badly with a very non-digital camera… including mid-flight film surgery. This one's a top-five all-timer—no doubt. The Shot that Changed His Life Heater’s Paint Scheme

In this week's episode of So There I Was, Ike joins us with stories so wild they make the Quigley, Beirut, and Cherry Point weather sound like minor inconveniences. We open with Ike casually mentioning that he once found himself upside-down over the North Atlantic at night — because of course he did. From growing up under the Nashville approach path to being choked in boot camp for laughing, to nearly “smoking” the British ambassador in Beirut when his door gunner got jumpy, Ike's journey from farm kid to single-seat attack pilot is a rollercoaster with no safety bar. We hit everything: CH-46 shenanigans, A-4 aileron rolls where drop tanks were definitely still attached, Harrier culture, maintenance-shop misery, and why flying vertical is basically a religion. Add in toilet installations on mountain peaks, British PT instructors who try to kill you, and Marines being Marines… and you've got an episode that is equal parts chaos, nostalgia, and aviation gold. Screenshot

B-2 stealth bomber test pilot Sparky joins So There I Was to explain why the world's sneakiest bomber still can't go direct to Liberal, Kansas without a paperwork migraine. From “switches up, auto missile, eat a sandwich” bomb runs to 24-hour missions fueled by go-pills, honey buckets, and a hacked-together cot, he walks us through life in a jet built for nuclear armageddon but terrible at simple IFR. Then we follow him to test pilot school at Edwards, where he flies everything from F-16s to flying boats, helps beat up the “Franken-tanker” KC-46, and explains how big airliners survive stalls, rejected takeoffs, and absurd crosswinds. Sparky also tells the sobering story of losing a classmate in a T-38 crash—and the piano-burning tradition that followed—before closing with the truly unbelievable tale of how Wayne Newton kissing his wife on stage earned him his call sign. Burning a Piano B-2 School Mates Last TPS Flight Using the Good Part of the Runway While Craters Get Fixed

Strap in, because Sparky's ride from the C-17 to the B-2 is basically the aviation version of “What could possibly go wrong?” — except when everything did go wrong, and somehow nobody died. We open with Sparky nearly spearing aPassenger Airliner 737 at FL280 when the T-38's pitot-static system decided to take the day off. That set the tone. Next, he walks us through dropping flares directly onto a detainee camp in Kandahar (oops), landing a 585,000-pound C-17 on a 3,000-foot dirt strip, and descending at 25,000 feet per minute because… why not? Then we move to the B-2, where one of the highlights is pressing one button and starting all four engines at once, like a nuclear-hardened Nespresso machine. Sparky's stories swing from hilarious to jaw-dropping, and many would make an FAA inspector faint. It's chaos, comedy, combat aviation, and classic So There I Was—all wrapped into two monster episodes… This week and next we are honored to welcome our first B-2 Spirit Pilot

So There I Was dives into the UPS MD-11 crash, compressor stalls, and why some jets are “varsity airplanes.” Fig kicks things off with a flaming T-45 compressor stall story, then we walk through what we know so far about the UPS MD-11 crash, V1 decision speed, startle factor, and why “no fast hands” can literally save your life. From tail tanks and induced drag to cargo-pilot zombie sleep schedules, you'll hear how big jets, night freight, and human factors all collide at high speed. Along the way we roast armchair investigators, explain jet engines and compressor stalls with a clever Taco Bell analogy from BadAss! We share some stories that will make every pilot nod and every non-aviator gasp. If you've ever wondered what really happens on the flight deck when everything goes sideways at rotation, this episode is your front-row seat. Screenshot

Six Marines. One table. Zero chill. This round-robin mayhem starts with a Harrier pilot fishtailing toward a hover pad in Iwakuni, Japan when a yaw reaction-control literally comes loose and starts “helping” at random. From there, we spiral into why conventional landings in a Harrier are a last resort, how “taking the jog” at Cherry Point doesn't mean going for a run! Then we chat about what happens when your fire light says, “Land. Now.” We talk PMCF flights when you shut your ONLY engine off on purpose (whose idea was that?), nozzle jams, outriggers, brake math with one brake, and a Spanish exchange pilot's mishap that grounded a fleet. In between: Marines being Marines—bridges, beer, tape, typhoons, and the legendary Zero Hangar. It's loud, fast, and occasionally naked (don't ask). 

Jedi's back—and the brake-check lesson starts before the beers do. An F-4 slides into rainy Pensacola, our hero reports “good braking,” and a brick-built Marine promptly edits his vocabulary: “It's poor.” Decades later, that same Marine reappears—through Jedi's son. Aviation is a small world with a loud voice. From there, we ricochet through cockpit lore: a British captain freeing stuck throttles by axe-murdering a radar scope (maintenance note: “radar inop”), a Vampire jet literally pruning the only tree in northern Germany—onto a soldier, and the fine art of CRM when an FO treats a 767 like a single-seat fighter. Jedi also talks writing: Substack confessions, a new thriller, and why the FAA's “kinder, gentler” era works when crews own their mistakes. It's hangar talk at altitude—equal parts cautionary tale, comedy, and “don't try this at home.” Strap in, stow your screwdriver, and remember: if a Marine asks about braking action… you already know the answer.

Allyn Hinton, Marine and Army aviator, joins So There I Was for a wild, first-person tour from low-level Huey recons over Da Nang to Blackhawks in Desert Storm. In this Allyn Hinton interview, he relives a smoke-grenade surprise that flushed eight guys from a bunker, a foot chase through a dry rice paddy, and a med-evac detour that out-prioritized a Korean officers' trip to LZ-3! Then we leap to carrier quals, C-130 world travel, and the only thing harder than hovering: trying not to laugh while catching the “wrong” wire. Along the way, Hinton flies with his son, chauffeurs U.S. senators past oil-well fires, and explains why Marines embraced the “Purple Fox” moniker. It's fast, funny, and shockingly human—aviation history told at rotor-wash speed. Listen now to feel the jet blast, the rotor thump, and the unmistakable Marine grin.

Nose pointed at a rock wall, rescue specialist on the skid, rotor wash bouncing off granite, and then—power loss. Abort! Welcome to the world of helicopter rescue with Double D, Arizona Department of Public Safety pilot and systems operator. He's pulled climbers out of box canyons, rescued the stranded, recovered the fallen, and somehow lived to tell the story with gallows humor intact. Pete and Sticks dive into hoists, short-hauls, taglines, and near-death pucker-factor flying. We get into what it means to “move at the speed of safety,” how to manage canyon winds, and why teamwork matters more than horsepower when you're hanging 200 feet below a chopper. Add in rotor-wash physics, and Dos Gringos jokes—it's absurd, intense, and ridiculously good. Come for the rescues; stay for the adrenaline and the laughs. For an instagram video of the opening rescue sequence on the show, look here

Helicopter search and rescue takes center stage as DPS pilot Darrell Detty walks us through hair-raising missions, near-misses and small-town chases that feel like action movies with rotor wash. From a 50-foot hovering autorotation, governor failures and a frantic stolen-car pursuit that ends in a live carjacking rescue, to talcum-dust LZs and a barbed-wire fence that almost kissed the skid, this episode blends gritty rotor-head detail with absurd human moments. Expect clear lessons on the dead-man's curve, manual-throttle saves, crew decision-making, and the weird mentorships that keep pilots sane. Laugh, cringe, and learn as we walk the thin line between heroics and hubris. Strap in, grab the collective, and hold on for rotor-powered storytelling. And here's a link that will raise your heart rate just sitting on the floor - you'll STILL feel too high up! - TERRIFYING Hoist Rescue!

When a 21-year-old warrant officer thinks he's bulletproof, fate (and a very determined round of enemy fire) impolitely disagrees. In this episode we ride shotgun with Cobra 3-1 — from Duluth misadventures and Playboy Clubs to flight school horrors, hovering triumphs, and the day a bullet turned a routine racetrack into a near-fatal last stand. He survives being shredded through his legs, gets stitched up by a miraculous surgeon, and later closes loops with the medic and chaplain who kept him breathing and believing. It's equal parts grotesque, hilarious, and deeply human: the gallows humor of helicopter crews, the absurdity of military bureaucracy, reunion epiphanies, and the weird grace of Honor Flights. If you like flying-too-close-to-death stories served with dry wit, irreverent banter, and surprising moments of spiritual closure — buckle in! This isn't just a war story; it's a life told with profanity, humility, and a pilot's stubborn joy.

Two Marines-turned-airline-pilots go full hangar-talk: first solo flight stories (equal parts terror and triumph), Harrier hover witchcraft, and why unstable approaches demand the magic words “unable” and “go-around.” We compare squadron life to airline ops, decode FOQA, MD-11 bounce-landings, porpoising, and laugh through “death-by-go-around” sim rides. We hit auto-lands, HUD/AOA, guarding the controls, and why seniority rules your calendar—and your soul. We even tiptoe across the third rail: raising pilot retirement age (opinion: individual fitness and cognition should matter more than a blunt number). Come for the aviation stories; stay for the checklist discipline and humor. It's fast, funny, a little absurd—but always remember - it's better to die and look good than live and look stupid! RePete & Fig Recording the Show

Welcome to Hangout #2 of So There I Was—a gloriously unfiltered romp of Harrier stories and V-22 tales. Expect FAA side-eye and concussion-grade comedy. RePete and a very lightly concussed Fig corral Sticks, Bago, Lawman, Deuce, Mike Evans, and Col. Jim Schaefer for pure airshow mayhem. We relive Gallo's rain-soaked Harrier demo that made the FAA clutch pearls. We bust a few Blue Angels myths. We even ask if a Harrier could land on I-93 without leaving a “Harrier kiss.” Then we dive into Osprey translation. Why does the MV-22 fly like a dream—and sometimes like a rumor? Add 53 downwash that can relocate outhouses. Toss in a dolphin mega-pod trying to outpace a Coast Guard helo. Plus, a CH-53K “towing” an F-35 (because why not), the VMA-223 sundown, and a salute to Marines, families, and the legends who keep these stories alive. Come for the aviation nerdery. Stay for the trophy shaped like… well, you'll hear it. Subscribe, laugh, and check six.

NOTICE***There is going to be a Zoom 'Hangout' With the "Numbskulls" on 24 September. If you are a Patreon member or Direct Donor you should get an invitation. If not - check back here on the 24th. I will keep the link from being public until the 24th to prevent trolls from trying to ruin it.***NOTICE So there I was… strapping into a seven-ton “dirt bike with wings.” The Marine Corps OV-10 Bronco was tough, noisy, and sometimes terrifying. It had no autopilot, a canopy down to your thighs, and a relief tube that occasionally worked like a fountain. In this episode, Marine aviators Felix and Pigpen share unforgettable OV-10 Bronco pilot stories from Desert Storm. Flying what they called a “missile magnet,” they marked targets with rockets, juggled five radios, and trusted a GPS that only worked part-time. Humor mixes with danger. You'll hear about clogged piss tubes, aerobatic joyrides at 100 feet, and even Marines being launched out of the back of the Bronco. But you'll also learn how these pilots survived night missions without mutual support and earned the deep gratitude of every grunt on the ground. If you thought Harrier tales were wild, wait until you saddle up with the Bronco crowd. This is a mix of absurd humor, combat grit, and aviation history you won't forget. Screenshot Screenshot Flare - Goin' back to Cali!

Student pilot judgment takes center stage in this absurdly true tale of near-misses, smart calls, and the mysterious power of the “E-word.” We welcome Chock as he fights through weather, maintenance gremlins, and schedule chaos on the winding road to his private pilot check ride. From an RV-12 with opinions to a Cirrus with a parachute and sparrows doing formation work on the runway, he keeps choosing discretion over disaster—and lives to laugh about it. We unpack why declaring an emergency is free (and wise), how to beat get-there-itis, and why a plastic credit card might be your best safety tool when the forecast lies. Chock's now at Embry-Riddle, cruising through ground school, logging real-world Aeronautical Decision Making, and proving that repetition builds a rock-solid foundation. Come for the pretty lights and seven welcome wagons; stay to hear how not killing yourself is a habit you can practice.

Booz, a freshly-minted CFI, New Hampshirite, and RePete's daughter—whose glider-to-airline path includes a first solo at 15, a daddy-daughter cross-country in a Grumman Tiger, and a commercial check ride where a simulated engine roughness forced a wrong-side pattern call (good judgment > dogma). We talk density altitude (rude), VMC demos (also leg fatigue), and why hypoxia makes your alphabet wander off the page — thanks, hyperbaric chamber! An alternator gremlin in Texas led to a fateful diversion and meeting CFI legend Mary Latimer (GIFT) [Episode 162], proving aviation serendipity is real. Booz shares practical advice: take a discovery flight, consider scholarships and ANG paths, and remember progress isn't linear—more like porpoising on a hot day. Come for the thunderstorm-dodging check ride, stay for the cactus awe, checklist Sharpie art, and donuts for the Feds. Listen, laugh, and maybe plot your own glider to CFI journey. Screenshot Screenshot Screenshot

Tito brought stories that will make you laugh, wince, and wonder why anyone gives gunners ANY spare time! Kool-Aid boots and hot-sauce toilets are savage reminders that no one is safe in a combat zone! Tito's journey took him from slinging bombs as a “Load Toad,” to fighting fires in baked-potato suits, to strapping into the legendary AC-130 Spectre gunship—where 105mm recoil could literally make the airplane flinch. He survived dunkers, duct tape wars, pink-mist firefights, and kept Nair on hand as a weapon of revenge. And when he wasn't flattening bad guys in Afghanistan and Iraq, he was saving lives in HH-60 Pave Hawks. Tito also wrote Moonchild, a raw memoir about combat, camaraderie, and finding humor in the absurd. If you like war stories spiked with ridiculous pranks, blunt honesty, and a side of absurdity, buckle up. This one will shake the walls. Order his excellent memoir here! Moon Child Book CoverVersion 1.0.0

This special mid week episode of So There I Was takes a slight detour from our usual lineup of aviators and aircrew—but it's still all about aviation at heart. Our guest, Mark, from Long Island Watch Co., joined us to share the story behind a limited-run Harrier commemorative watch designed in collaboration with the folks at Patuxent River Naval Air Station (PAX River). PAX, the Navy's legendary flight test center, was the perfect place for the Harrier community to dream up a way to honor their jet as it heads into retirement. Mark walked us through the design cycle, the hoops of Boeing approvals, and the cool details built into the watch. And yes—Mark is a pilot himself, with a story about learning to fly in some of the busiest airspace around. Aviation, watches, and Harriers—you'll find it all here. You can see more about the watch here You Can Order the watch here

Retired Marine AV-8B Harrier pilot, “Cutter,” brings stories that are equal parts funny and awe-inspiring. He kicks off with the 2005 twelve-ship departure from al-Asad—skimming the Saudi desert on fumes, praying the tankers showed up—before pushing through a 10.5-hour odyssey to Rota, Spain. He rewinds to OCS at Camp Upshur with 300 candidates lined up for a cold gamma-globulin shot, then to flight school in T-2s that needed a literal bicycle pump to make the radio work. Cutter recounts the logging cable in Japan that shredded his wing at 480 knots, and the engine fire in Yuma that ended in an ejection so violent it still rattles him. He explains how smart fixes and blade blending saved Harrier engines, why “Hobbitville” became a deployment, and how commanding MCAS Yuma eventually led to teaching in Vermont. It's fast, funny, and human: Marine brotherhood, cockpit chaos, and leadership lessons from a Colonel who's seen it all. Stick around for the Extra—Cutter at Mach .99 over on Patreon!

IIn this wild, laugh-until-your-ribs-hurt episode of So There I Was, we dive into Marine Corps Harrier pilot stories that blur the line between combat history and barroom legend. We round up a squadron of Harrier pilots — including Spiko, who joins mid-flight — for tales of 8.5-G nozzle breaks in the Philippines, midair collisions, midnight carrier deck landings, and questionable uses for government-issued canteens. “Mongoose” lets the squadron run wild, “Woody” wakes up surrounded by boots, and one Marine's coffee ritual nearly sparks an international hygiene incident. Between the absurd tales, these Marine Corps Harrier pilot stories also carry moments of respect for fallen brothers like LZ and Trey, memorials in their honor, and the unshakable loyalty forged only in the cockpit and combat zone. If you enjoy this chaos in the cockpit, you'll also love Episode 170 for even more Harrier tales and high-speed mishaps. Equal parts irreverent and heartfelt, this is Marine aviation storytelling at its most unfiltered. Strap in, hold on, and prepare for impact. If you love authentic Marine Corps Harrier pilot stories, this episode delivers them with humor, heart, and the thrill of high-speed flight. 542 Pilot in a Harrier

Strap in and try not to twist your balls. This week's episode goes full afterburner with the “Young Guns” of VMA-542: Auto, Disco, Pisser, Spiko, Strut, and Vapor join Fig and RePete to recount the wild, the ridiculous, and the occasionally flammable moments of Marine Harrier squadron glory. There's a missile shoot that nearly ends in a self-induced jet barbecue, poker games that could fund small countries, and bar fights with women who can deadlift your Harley. You'll hear how napalm delivery tactics were invented on the fly (literally), how morale was fueled by Scope bottle cocktails, and how the infamous “Deadbeat Club” probably violated several Geneva Conventions. This isn't just war stories—it's Marine aviation mythology, told by the guys who lived it, built it, and occasionally broke it. Oh—and “Olo Polo”? We don't know either. Just scream it into the void and roll tape.

This week, we flip the script—Fig and RePete aren't hosting, we're the guests on The Flying Dutchman Show. Dutch dives into the stories, chaos, and camaraderie that define life as a Marine Harrier pilot, pulling out unforgettable tales from our years in the cockpit. From flight school struggles and first carrier landings to NATOPS checkride drama and mid-air close calls, no part of Marine aviation is off limits. You'll hear how Fig got his call sign, how RePete nearly lost his flight contract, and how both of us beat the odds to fly the legendary AV-8B. We talk about our time in VMA-223, what makes the Harrier such a beast to fly, and why landing on a postage stamp at sea isn't just a figure of speech. Whether you're a pilot, veteran, or aviation junkie—if you've ever wondered what it takes to survive a nozzle-flop or why a death equation matters at 50 feet—this one's for you. https://youtu.be/v0KBqE97e5I

So there he was…35 feet above the water, at night, trying to airlift survivors. What happens next involves a suitcase, a shrug, and one hell of a throw. Join So There I Was as Coast Guard helo pilot “Sticks” returns to recount harrowing rescues during the Texas floods—where flying into chaos is just another Tuesday. From medevacs that look more like belly-flop contests to triaging 170 people solo in rising waters, Sticks paints a vivid—and frequently absurd—picture of what real-world Coast Guard rescues look like. We talk dynamic rollovers, helicopter dogfights (yep), shared controls (don't try this at home), and why some paramedics apparently prefer jumping out of perfectly good aircraft with their shoes still on. This one's funny, terrifying, and humbling. Spoiler: someone ends up soaking wet, and it's not just the patient.

From screw-up recruit to revered drill instructor, First Sergeant John Crouch takes us deep into the crucible of Marine Corps transformation. In this gripping episode, Crouch recalls his early days at bootcamp, his infamous misstep during the Laws of Land Warfare class, and the brutal but formative experience of Drill Instructor School at Parris Island. He shares harrowing tales of PT punishment, spit-shined leadership, and the unwavering standards that mold raw recruits into Marines. Whether he's talking about the origin of “YUT!” or the moment he lost all attraction to a stunning Staff Sergeant mid-drip, Crouch delivers humor, humility, and hard-earned wisdom. You'll hear how tradition, stress, and shared adversity forge the kind of leaders America needs. This one's got everything: embarrassment, endurance, and the emotional gravity that only the Corps can provide. Don't miss this raw, hilarious, and unforgettable ride through the making of a DI.

So there I was… with $174 in loose change, one Garande rifle, and a sandpit full of regret. In this unforgettable episode, retired Marine First Sergeant John Crouch returns to So There I Was to share a story so absurd, it should be fiction—but it's 100% real! From psychological stress at Officer Candidate School to creative punishments involving unsecured wallets and rifles. And you'll hear how a Medal of Honor dog tag program gave candidates something bigger than themselves to fight for—and how a quiet act of remembrance, years later, brought that message full circle. This one has it all. You'll laugh, wince, and maybe reconsider ever presetting a lock again. Plus: the mystery of the disappearing platoon, and the officer candidate who DOR'd mid-leg lift (spoiler: she made captain). Whether you're a vet, a pilot, or someone who just likes your wallets where you left them, this episode is a wild ride through discipline, leadership, and 34 pounds of copper and nickel-based motivation.