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Ben Densley joins So There I Was to share his extraordinary journey—opening with a terrifying incident during a night parachute jump on to becoming a Green Beret, then a helicopter pilot in Vietnam. He recalls intense special forces training, covert operations in Laos, and flying for Air America in combat zones. Ben speaks candidly about the dangers he faced, the emotional toll of war, and the resilience needed to navigate PTSD. He also offers a behind-the-scenes look at missions involving rescues, supply drops, and demolitions. Post-war, Ben continued his aviation career with the NTSB and even flew for Trump Air. Along the way, he shares humorous stories, personal reflections, and gratitude for those who supported him through both war and peace. This episode is packed with history, heroism, and humanity—told by someone who lived it all.

This week we hand the mic to Pisser — a Marine aviator whose call sign isn't an insult… it's a proven skill... Yes, he really can clear a 15-passenger van... LENGTH-WISE! From calling in fast movers to dropping bombs and one-liners, Pisser takes us on a high-speed run through the hilarity and hazards of military aviation. He crushed flight school, built tactical air control programs, and somehow kept a straight face through “murder boards” that were anything but academic. You'll hear about combat missions, ballsy-flybys, and just enough bathroom humor to stay on brand. Strap in — this one's got altitude, attitude, and absolutely no apologies.

In this riveting episode of So There I Was, we sit down with John “Apache 2-3” Haugen, a Vietnam-era Army aviator with stories that span from the draft line in 1968 to combat flying in the Mekong Delta. John shares how he dodged a ground-pounder fate by heading to Officer Candidate School, ultimately flying slicks and accumulating over 900 hours of combat flight time. With humor, humility, and gripping detail, he recounts narrow escapes, night missions, forced landings, and his close call in a mangrove swamp that led to a surreal “third man” experience. From learning in OH-23s and flying Hueys to coordinating strikes with Cobras and Puff the Magic Dragon, John's stories highlight the courage, camaraderie, and absurdities of combat aviation in Vietnam. Bonus tales include bar tabs in Manhattan, unexpected rat-kebabs, and the elusive “Hawk's” little black book. This is an episode packed with history, grit, and a whole lot of heart!

Dr. David Hamilton, retired surgeon and award-winning historian joins us to to discuss his upcoming book The Enigmatic Aviator: Charles Lindbergh Revisited (out May 21, 2025—on the 98th anniversary of Lindbergh's legendary flight to Paris). Dr. Hamilton unveils the lesser-known side of Lindbergh—his pivotal contributions to medical science, organ perfusion technology, and even the design of early centrifuges. We explore Lindbergh's engineering brilliance, his secretive private life, and how his scientific legacy was buried beneath decades of political smears and tabloid noise. From barnstorming to building perfusion pumps, from fighting with the Luftwaffe to shaping the future U.S. Air Force, Lindbergh's life was more complex than the myths suggest. This deep dive is both revelatory and respectful, with stories you've never heard—because until now, no one had dug this deep. Dr. Hamilton at the Smithsonian - Unusual, in that the Spirit of St. Louis was down for cleaning - NOT hanging from the ceiling as it usually is!

Bill Robinson recounts the harrowing story of being shot down over North Vietnam in 1965 during a rescue mission gone sideways. What followed was nearly eight years as a prisoner of war — making him the longest-held enlisted POW in American history. From in-flight helicopter refueling with 55-gallon drums to the chaos of capture, jungle survival, torture, and eventual release, Robinson shares vivid memories and razor-sharp insights. His humor, humility, and perspective on service, sacrifice, and resilience offer a powerful reminder of the cost of war and the strength of the human spirit. You'll hear tales of duct-taped helicopters, donkey competitions, and homemade POW education programs — all delivered with unforgettable wit. This is not just a history lesson — it's living testimony from a true American hero.

Former U.S. Coast Guard rescue swimmer Jason “Quinny” Quinn shares the harrowing story behind the Distinguished Flying Cross he earned after saving five people from a burning ship in the Bering Sea. With only one helicopter and 26 people reported in the water, Quinn was deployed near the vessel Galaxy as it rolled violently in 25-foot seas. Swimming close to massive propellers and through smoke and flames, he rescued survivor after survivor—fighting exhaustion, freezing water, and chaos along the way. Quinn also takes us back to where it all started: growing up on a lake in Massachusetts, joining the Coast Guard, and training to become one of the elite. He describes the intense physical demands of rescue swimmer school and the mental toughness it takes to operate in the world's most dangerous conditions. This episode is packed with real-world rescue tactics, unforgettable training moments, and pulse-pounding close calls. It's a gripping, high-stakes look inside the life-and-death world of Coast Guard search and rescue—told by one of the best to ever wear the fins.

In this unforgettable episode of So There I Was, Howie Franklin—the only steward to serve five U.S. Presidents aboard Air Force One—joins us for an incredible deep dive into presidential history. With unmatched humor, insight, and warmth, Howie shares behind-the-scenes stories about Presidents Clinton, Reagan, Carter, Bush, and Ford. From rock-and-roll boombox diplomacy to emotional moments following family loss, Howie paints a vivid portrait of the human side of leadership. He details what it was like to see President Clinton evolve in office, the unmatched organization of the Reagan administration, and hilarious anecdotes about presidential quirks—including broccoli mishaps and golf trip pranks. Howie's tales span the globe, from Air Force One logistics in Moscow to midnight flights across the Mediterranean, all grounded in respect and service. With humility and passion, Howie reminds us that behind every commander-in-chief is a hardworking team, and that leadership—at its best—is about compassion, service, and humor. If you've ever wanted a fly-on-the-wall perspective of history in motion, this episode delivers.

In this episode, Howie Franklin, the only flight steward to serve five U.S. Presidents aboard Air Force One, joins us with jaw-dropping stories from a life lived at the center of American history. It kicks off with a story with former Marine Commandant General Krulak and quickly dives into Howie's early days — from rubbing elbows with celebs on Fire Island to working in elite kitchens as a teenager. Drafted into the Air Force, he found his way from a toxic chow hall in South Dakota to flying global missions with generals and diplomats. Howie shares how a single flight changed his life, landing him in a world of professionalism and purpose. We hear how he earned the trust of Henry Kissinger, cooked on diplomatic missions across the globe, and eventually became the go-to steward for Presidents Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, and Clinton. With vivid recollections of world leaders, near-farcical bathroom lines in midair, and White House-level logistics, this episode is a front-row seat to history—with plenty of laughs and a few “Did he just say that?” moments.

In this high-speed, low-altitude ride of So There I Was, the guest—a decorated WSO in both the F-111 Aardvark and F-15E Strike Eagle—shares some of the most intense moments of his flying career. He takes us over the Nevada desert at Mach 1.3 and just 100 feet above ground level. He recalls near-misses, like narrowly avoiding an A-10 while threading a ridge line. The thrill of tactical aviation comes through in every story. The episode also covers his nuclear weapons delivery training in Europe, pulling Gs at 600 knots, and precision strikes during Red and Green Flag exercises. Listeners get an inside look at the F-111's unique systems: its terrain-following radar, manually controlled swing wings, and infamous escape capsule. Hair-raising tales continue with compressor stalls at Mach 1.69, sandstorm landings during Southern Watch, and using sheer speed to evade enemies in mock combat. Throughout the episode, the guest delivers a masterclass in military aviation history, tactics, and aircraft systems—especially the Aardvark's legendary low-level, high-speed mission profile.

In August 2017, about 100 miles west of Key West, a Yort found himself in a tense moment during what was supposed to be a routine intercept mission. After being redirected to the Phantom airspace, he learned an aircraft might have gone down—a chilling way for any aviation story to turn serious.  That moment of uncertainty launched a gripping tale that unfolds with career-spanning insights into military aviation. From childhood memories of climbing into old B-17s to intense training with the Navy SEALs, to navigating ROTC, OCS, and finally flying F-18s off carriers, the story offers an unfiltered look at life as a Marine aviator.  There are moments of raw humor, anxiety, and pride as he details everything from flight school stress to pulling Gs in low-level bombing runs. Whether you're an aviation aficionado or a fan of military stories, this account delivers authenticity, adrenaline, and plenty of dark-humored truth from life in the cockpit. Refueling in the Basket

From a kid watching F-16s in Albuquerque to flying the legendary AV-8B Harrier, Warren's journey into Marine Corps aviation is packed with twists, challenges, and near-disasters. It all started with a recruiter's dare and his mother's skepticism—fueling his path from Navy ROTC to the cockpit of one of the most unique aircraft in military aviation. But the road to the sky wasn't easy. Warren overcame a broken leg in flight school, a last-minute major change, and grueling combat missions over Iraq and Afghanistan. He pulls back the curtain on white-knuckle night sorties, navigating strict rules of engagement, and managing fuel over hostile terrain—where a single mistake could mean disaster. Then there's the moment that gives this episode its title: a functional check flight gone horribly wrong. At 18,000 feet, Warren found himself in an uncontrolled spin… with no engine. How did he survive? You'll have to listen to find out. This episode is loaded with hidden gems—including a jaw-dropping story of rebuilding Harrier engines in record time after catastrophic water contamination in Afghanistan. And when you're done here - go to our GiveAway page to enter to win one of 5 custom engraved flasks with your name or callsign etched on it!

This week on So There I Was, Jeff & Jay Moss join us to share their unique journeys as Army attack pilots and men of faith. From the cockpit to the home front, their paths have been shaped by battlefield decisions and life's toughest challenges—the kind that test both the body and the soul. Jeff has faced the crucible of war. Jay has forged his own path, carrying on the family legacy as an attack pilot. Through it all, faith, family bonds, and even a connection to a former President have shaped their journey. Their book, My Leading Edge (co-authored by Jeff & Camille Moss), is a powerful testament to resilience through faith. Facing incredible fear, helplessness and uncertainty when their beautiful daughter, Mallory, experienced life-threatening seizures and were told neither a cure nor a treatment were likely they turned to faith and friends. When Jeff's faith was shaken, Camille's remained steadfast. When she struggled, he found the strength to lift them both. Together, they weathered life's storms—offering a road map for perseverance, trust, and the unshakable power of belief.

Buckle up for a wild ride with A-10 Warthog pilots T-Dub and Quintana! From dodging bureaucracy to dodging bullets, these two bring hilarious and jaw-dropping combat stories straight from the cockpit. Hear about strafing tanks in Iraq, the legendary Kandahar Unicorn, and why British Special Forces will obliterate anyone who messes with their dog. Expect fighter pilot pranks, piddle pack nightmares, and some highly questionable call signs. Oh, and did we mention an explosion of 200 barrels of oil? If you love aviation, military humor, and tales of airborne mayhem, this episode is guns hot!

From ‘Worm' to ‘Wolfy': A wild ride through a career in Naval Aviaton What happens when a determined young man with a dream of flying almost misses his shot—only to have fate (and a sharp-eyed Naval Officer) step in? Wolfy joins us to share his incredible journey: from nearly missing his chance to serve, to nailing the perfect interview, to never, ever quitting. Along the way, he'll crack you up with stories of how ‘Worm' became ‘Wolfy', and drop some unexpectedly deep wisdom—like what it's like to attend your own funeral. Oh, and did we mention he's worked alongside the elite Navy SEALs and somehow made it into the Blue Angels? Yeah, buckle up for this one. Laugh, learn, and get inspired—you won't want to miss this episode of So There I Was!

JTAC Combat Stories with Black Rifle Coffee's JT This week, So There I Was takes a wild turn as we welcome JT—combat veteran, Air Force JTAC, and co-founder of Black Rifle Coffee Company. Not only is he a certified badass, but he also runs a fund to support veterans and first responders—because great coffee and great causes go hand in hand. Surviving JTAC Training & Dodging Bullets JT shares insane combat stories, from his grueling selection process (spoiler: it involved deception, suffering, and maybe some regret) to climbing a ladder in the middle of a warzone while F-16s screamed overhead. What could possibly go wrong? Explosions, Cows & Annoying Canadians Ever wonder how to seriously piss off a Canadian soldier? Or what happens when military guys accidentally take out a cow with a .50 cal? Yeah, we go there. Don't Miss This One! If you like wild combat stories, dark military humor, and people making questionable decisions under fire, this episode is for you.

Lucky may be the most fitting callsign ever. On September 11, 2001, she and her squadron were caught off guard—just like the rest of the nation. Thrust into an unprecedented mission, they had to adapt and overcome in real-time. In this gripping firsthand account, hear how Lucky responded to the attacks, the challenges she faced, and why she still believes they failed that morning. This episode delivers a powerful inside look at one of the most pivotal days in modern American history.

This week on So There I Was, we sit down with Dan from the Danger Close podcast—an active-duty ATC Tower Controller with a wealth of experience keeping the skies safe. Dan takes us inside the tower, where every day is a mix of routine operations, high-pressure moments, and the occasional heart-stopping emergency. Ever wondered what really happens when pilots mess up on the radio? Or how controllers handle everything from student pilots to fast-moving military traffic? Dan shares the good, the bad, and the hilarious from behind the mic. But that's not all—Dan is also a combat veteran with firsthand experience in high-stakes military operations. He opens up about his time in service, the mindset required to make split-second decisions, and how those experiences shape the way he sees the world today. It's an episode packed with stories, insight, and the kind of no-BS perspective you can only get from someone who's lived it. Don't miss this one!

Double-L comes back to chat with us about firefighting from the air! This episode takes an in-depth look at the dangers and challenges of aerial firefighting, featuring returning guest, Double-L. The discussion kicks off with his harrowing experiences flying C-130s through valleys engulfed in flames, emphasizing the immense risks pilots face. He shares firsthand accounts of Modular Airborne Firefighting Systems (MAFFS), strategies for containing wildfires, and the high-stakes decisions made in extreme conditions. From battling unpredictable microbursts to maneuvering through treacherous terrain, this episode provides an inside look at the crucial role military firefighting pilots play. The crew delves into the coordination required between agencies, the grueling pace of missions, and the ever-present dangers in the cockpit. Packed with real-life stories, technical insights, and a touch of humor, this episode sheds light on a little-known but vital aviation mission. See the video of the show on YouTube here: https://tinyurl.com/SoThereIWas143 Here's the URL to the YouTube of this episode including another video that Sticks played of a retardant lay-down run. https://tinyurl.com/SoThereIWas143

This week, A-10 pilot Soup shares the untold story of leading the first mission into Afghanistan during Operation Anaconda. Navigating chaotic airspace without deconfliction in a high-stakes “knife-fight in a phone booth” battlespace, Soup delivers gripping accounts of close air support, critical decisions, and coordinating dozens of aircraft to protect troops on the ground. This episode dives into leadership, resilience, and the ingenuity of combat aviation, showcasing life-or-death stakes and the pride of serving. Perfect for military aviation enthusiasts and history buffs, Soup's adrenaline-filled stories offer a rare glimpse into the bravery and dedication of those who serve. Don't miss this powerful firsthand account of history in action!

Shyster joins us to talk about flying Marine Attack helicopters after being told by the recruiter, "The Air Force is down the hall." After combat deployments, Shyster found himself at HMX-1 - The Presidential lift squadron - and one fateful morning in September when the world turned upside-down, Shyster was right there at the highest levels of our government watching and working in the highest-stress crisis management of his life. DON'T miss this one! LEAD Technologies Inc. V1.01

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Welcome to the first ever So There I Was Hangout. Being as it's the holiday week we are publishing this hangout as a show. Sound quality is rough in some parts and it's not a 'smooth' interview... but there are thousands of folks who didn't get to come hang out with us. We will do a "Best Of" show on New Years Day - and plan on resuming with regular interviews on the 9th January! We had a ball chatting with so many folks. We will do this again! Come join us next time!

This week Fig, RePete & Sticks engage in some hangar talk this week as we had a tech issue preventing our scheduled guest from joining us. Hear us numbskulls recount some of the stories that led us to where we are today! Hang Out with us on Zoom 22 Dec at 5PM Eastern Time Click Here for the zoom link!

Hop aboard for a thrilling second episode with Bātar, packed with stories that will make you laugh, gasp, and question if pilots moonlight as comedians. The adventure kicks off with the baffling “Hawaii out of gas” debacle and revisits the unfinished “Football Island” tale from last week. Bātar shares a white-knuckle “Utility Hydraulic Failure” and a hilariously questionable moment with his pilot, Fox, debating their sobriety before a mission. Get ready for livestock mishaps, slapstick-worthy landing gear incidents, and the thrill of 685 combat missions (including a wild drop of 24 bombs at once!). From dodging enemy fire to reflecting on the rare boredom when it wasn't there, Bātar's experiences are anything but ordinary. Add in SR-71 “that didn't happen” moments, Great Santini antics, and an F-4 showdown, and you've got an episode that's impossible to miss! See below for Bātar's Memoir! window.option_df_2877 = {"outline":[],"autoEnableOutline":"false","autoEnableThumbnail":"false","overwritePDFOutline":"false","direction":"1","pageSize":"0","source":"https://sothereiwas.us/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/F4-Memories.pdf","wpOptions":"true"}; if(window.DFLIP && window.DFLIP.parseBooks){window.DFLIP.parseBooks();}

Join us on this exhilarating episode as we dive into the gripping tales of “Bātar,” a Marine Corps F-4 Phantom RIO who recounts his heart-pounding experiences in the skies over Vietnam. From navigating treetop-level ordnance runs while dodging streams of tracer fire to his journey from a mechanical engineering student at the University of Rochester to the cockpit of one of aviation's most legendary aircraft, Bātar shares his unique perspective on life, combat, and the camaraderie of the Corps. With anecdotes that range from the humorous to the harrowing, this episode is a must-listen for military aviation enthusiasts and fans of thrilling stories alike. We also explore Bātar's reflections on the “Old Corps,” the evolution of aviation, and the challenges of his time. His memoirs, A Marine Remembers the F-4, offer a rare window into the life of a Marine RIO during one of the most turbulent periods in history. Buckle up for an unforgettable ride with Fig and RePete as we honor Bātar's legacy and hear firsthand about his extraordinary life in the skies. Bātar kept notes and used letters home that his mother kept to reconstruct his memoir - which he graciously shares here! Nose Gear Shot! And Collapsed on Landing! Phantom RIO's Radar Dismount Ready Room with A.C. Chow Hall F-4 Memories: A RIO Remembers the F-4 window.option_df_2877 = {"outline":[],"autoEnableOutline":"false","autoEnableThumbnail":"false","overwritePDFOutline":"false","direction":"1","pageSize":"0","source":"https://sothereiwas.us/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/F4-Memories.pdf","wpOptions":"true"}; if(window.DFLIP && window.DFLIP.parseBooks){window.DFLIP.parseBooks();}

Retired USAF Col. “KC” shared incredible moments from her journey as an A-10 pilot, showcasing bravery, determination, and grit. Some highlights include: The Lucky Rabbit's Foot and a Baghdad Mission KC recounts a harrowing close air support mission over Baghdad in 2003. Battling poor visibility, she and her flight lead responded to a desperate call for help. Diving under the clouds, she targeted enemies beneath a bridge amid chaos. Her A-10 was hit by a surface-to-air missile, forcing her to fly in manual reversion. Despite the damage, she safely returned to base, demonstrating her skill, training, and the resilience of the Warthog. Why She Chose the A-10 KC explains her decision to fly the A-10, the “Warthog,” drawn to its low-level mission focus and dedication to ground troops. Her story highlights the critical role of close air support and her pride in helping soldiers return home safely. Reflections That Save Lives KC shares how lessons from Desert Storm veterans and her training shaped her actions during crises. These stories became a lifeline in her most challenging moments. KC's vivid storytelling reveals what it means to serve with courage and commitment. (U.S. Air Force photo by Airman 1st Class Kristine Legate)

Join us for part two with RobRoy! Hear about his Naval Academy days, life aboard a carrier, landing a C-2 Greyhound, his YouTube channel, FlyBuyer.com, and his final Navy tour. Don't miss this engaging pilot-to-pilot conversation! default

Rob Roy's path to becoming a Navy pilot started with inspiration from watching Top Gun as a child. Coming from a non-military background, he navigated the path to military aviation on his own, attending the U.S. Naval Academy and graduating in 2011. After completing Aviation Pre-flight Indoctrination in Pensacola, he trained in the T-34 and T-45, before Selecting C-2 Greyhounds, used for carrier onboard delivery. Rob's journey included deployments, experiences in Corpus Christi, Texas, and roles that spanned from flying in high-stakes environments to assisting with logistics aboard carriers. One highlight of Rob's career was flying missions to carriers and ensuring delivery of personnel and supplies, showcasing the essential and often overlooked logistical backbone of naval aviation. He tells the story of getting his parents onto a carrier in the Mediterranean, and going around his Squadron CO (Skipper) to do so; a rare and meaningful gesture that illustrated his resourcefulness and deep connection to his family's contributions. His tenure also involved unique assignments, transitioning aspirations, and navigating challenges with commanding officers, illustrating both the rigor and fulfillment of a naval aviator's career.

General Jay shares an intense aviation experience during Desert Storm. While on a KC-135 mission, his aircraft suddenly rolled sharply left and right, resulting in the detachment of two engines. The unexpected maneuver was later attributed to wake turbulence from another plane, which caused severe G-forces that sheared the bolts holding the engines. Despite losing power on one side and handling significant challenges, including hydraulic issues and fuel loss, the crew maintained control and safely landed the aircraft at King Abdulaziz International Airport, blowing several tires but remaining on the centerline. The investigation revealed no structural damage, showcasing the KC-135's durability. General Jay's recollections capture the complexity, quick thinking, and teamwork required in emergency situations. His story underscores the reliability of the KC-135 and the commitment of part-time guardsmen, balancing civilian careers while serving their country. Screenshot

In this episode, G. brings listeners along a remarkable journey from piloting the A-10 Warthog to operating drones in combat. One story that stands out is the transition to remotely piloted aircraft after a neck injury. When introduced to the world of RPAs, she faced the unique challenges of flying remotely and adapting to drone camera interfaces, something very different from a traditional cockpit. Her experience highlights the adaptability required in military aviation and the evolving role of drones in modern warfare. She also shares her time at the prestigious Air Force Weapons School. Despite the odds — pregnant with her second child and the first-ever RPA student at the school — she navigated this demanding program, emerging as a skilled instructor. Her dedication and resilience shine, inspiring those around her. Wrapping up with insights into "Cross-check Mental Performance" training, she emphasizes the importance of mental agility for pilots. Through her stories, listeners gain a firsthand look at the courage, adaptability, and mental fortitude of military aviators.

RePete and Fig are joined by “G,” a highly experienced pilot who instructed in both the T-37 and T-38, flew the A-10 Warthog (Thunderbolt), and operated the Reaper. She shares her remarkable journey into aviation. “G” recounts how she initially pursued the military without knowing much about it, joining Air Force ROTC and landing a pilot slot after what was initially thought to be a medical disqualification turned out to be a non-issue. Overcoming airsickness and various other challenges, “G” talks about her first assignment as an instructor pilot, where she developed a love for teaching. She candidly shares how she earned her callsign, “G-Spot,” after an amusing and confusing misread of her HUD during an A-10 attack training flight. The episode also delves into a nerve-wracking engine failure during her first A-10 flight in Korea and wraps up with a light-hearted story of encountering a persistent praying mantis en route to the Yokota Airshow. “G” is far too humble in her approach to her accomplished career. Her insights into the world of aviation are both inspiring and entertaining, making this an episode you won't want to miss.

Bart shares the thrilling journey of his military service, beginning with a long flight from Japan to Saudi Arabia due to overflight restrictions. He humorously recalls the camaraderie and memorable moments with fellow officers during training. Upon arriving in Iraq, Bart's experience takes an unexpected turn as he navigates logistical challenges, including a less-than-welcoming committee. The stakes heighten as Bart recounts his first combat missions, filled with adrenaline and unpredictability. Tension builds with the onset of Desert Storm, where Bart transitions from training exercises to live combat. The episode takes a dramatic turn when Bart is shot down during his 17th mission, captured by Iraqi forces, and experiences the surreal and dangerous reality of captivity. His eventual release and return to military life underscore the resilience and courage required in such intense circumstances. Screenshot

Bart takes us through some gripping moments from his Marine Corps career, starting with his during a change of command in Iraq. He talks about using the advanced Targeting Pod, known as the Litening Pod. Bart shares stories of operating early versions of the Litening pod and Lasing targets for Hornets on bombing missions, highlighting the technological advancements of the time. He recounts taking command of the 542 squadron in the desert and the challenges of leadership, explaining how admiration can be fleeting in such intense environments. As the episode progresses, Bart relives moments from Iraq in 2003 including what he now knows was a bad idea, but (most of) his Marines followed him anyway… a teachable moment as it were! Harrier Division

In this episode, we speak with Bart, a retired two-star general and Harrier pilot, as he shares his incredible journey from discovering his passion for aviation through ROTC to his experiences in the Gulf War, where he was shot down and taken prisoner. Bart recounts humorous anecdotes from flight school, the challenges of flying Harriers, and the camaraderie of military life. He reflects on the impact of his service, advocacy for aviation advancements, and his transition to civilian life. This engaging conversation offers listeners a deeper appreciation for the sacrifices of military personnel and highlights Bart's humility and the remarkable stories from his career. Join us next week for further insights into Bart's journey and the tales of other aviators.

This week on So There I Was, we continue our conversation with retired Marine Colonel and aviator extraordinaire, Baron. He shares how his career progressed after his initial experiences in the Iranian desert, covering his involvement in the development of the Marine Corps Weapons and Tactics Instructor program. Baron recounts his journey back to Yuma, where he eventually became the commanding officer of HMM-361. He also discusses his time as the V-22 Osprey program manager and the challenges of overseeing its development. Additionally, Baron reflects on some of the most harrowing moments from his Vietnam service, including surviving ground fire and earning his call sign “Baron.”

Baron joins us to tell of a harrowing story of survival during his first tour in Vietnam. After an engine exploded mid-flight, shrapnel tore through the aircraft, leaving the crew struggling to maintain altitude. With one engine failing and the other insufficient to keep them airborne, they made an emergency landing at Camp Eagle, narrowly avoiding disaster. The episode then explores how this veteran's career in aviation began in high school, leading to an unexpected detour with the Marine Corps, and his path to becoming a helicopter pilot. Hear a gripping first-hand account of pivotal moments, including his experiences flying heavy-lift and a mission that ended in disaster in the Iranian desert in April of 1980. A Famous Neighbor!Claude Akins

Dominique Prinet, author and legendary bush pilot, recounts his harrowing experiences navigating the remote and unforgiving Canadian Arctic. Born in France just prior to World War II, Prinet's passion for aviation began as a child watching aerial dogfights overhead. He shares captivating stories of his bush flying career, where he faced life-threatening situations, including flying overloaded planes, navigating without reliable instruments near the North Pole, and surviving plane crashes in freezing conditions. His most jaw-dropping tale involves descending through thick clouds, with ice accumulating on his plane, leaving him powerless to stop an inevitable crash—only to miraculously land safely on a hidden lake. Prinet's tales of resilience, survival, and near-death encounters are riveting, offering listeners a rare glimpse into the extreme conditions bush pilots endure. This episode is a must-listen for aviation enthusiasts, thrill-seekers, or anyone who appreciates the true grit it takes to survive in the wild skies. Prinet's ability to laugh at danger and emerge victorious will leave listeners on the edge of their seats, eager for more. Buy his book - Flying to Extremes to get even more!

We're thrilled to have Beef join us to share his incredible journey. From his formative days at Annapolis, where his roommate ‘Swede' (featured in episode 115) introduced him to his sister, to his passion for motocross racing, and his impressive flying career with the S-3 and the Hornet. We'll also dive into his experience as the Commanding Officer of the Blue Angels. This motivational speaker has some fantastic stories to tell. Enjoy! Threshhold Braking Officer & A Gentleman! Boss & Crew Chief

This week features guest S.A.M., a Marine F-18 pilot with an impressive and unconventional career. 'Sam' shares stories from his time in the Marine Corps, including his journey from having a ground contract to aviator; the unexpected challenges of military aviation; and a memorable deployment during Operation Iraqi Freedom. He discusses the intricacies of flying combat missions, the challenges of carrier operations, and his eventual transition from an NFO to a pilot. The episode is filled with humor, insightful anecdotes, and a look at the unique culture within Marine aviation. Sam's story highlights his resilience and adaptability throughout his military career.

We're Baaack! So There I Was—the podcast where the stories are real, and sometimes, the lessons come from unlikely sources. Like this week's gem: ever been told that even a monkey could do your job? Our guest, LoJack, sure has. When he was scrambling to get his private pilot's license in just two months, his flight instructor looked him dead in the eye and said, “I could teach a monkey to fly in two months!” And that's where it all began. From humble (and hilarious) beginnings to near-World War III incidents, LoJack's journey is packed with the kind of stories you can't make up. So, grab a seat and buckle up—this one's going airborne!

So There I Was - It's how ALL Great Aviation Tales Begin… This is a replay of episode 28: The Boss is HAM'N - Listen to Lawman and learn what it's like to be a Blue Angel - from the camaraderie to the pranks they played on each other to the unbelievably close bonds they formed as they trusted each other with their very lives multiple times daily for years. Find out what ‘HAM'N' means and why it's important to do!

So There I Was - It's how ALL Great Aviation Tales Begin… This is episode 119. This is a replay of episode 64 - You're Going to Have to Talk Me Out. This tells the tale of how ‘One-Eye' extricated himself and 10 other wounded Marines from a scalding hot LZ (Landing Zone) in Vietnam. Not only should he not have been able to fly, none of those Marines should have survived the bad situation they were in, but for the heroic actions of this Marine who knew his machine so well that he could successfully fly it when 99.9% of humans on the planet would not have been able to accomplish what he did that night.We'll be back 22 August with a new guest!

Bacchus, our first Warthog driver and retired CT ANG Brigadier General shared stories from his extensive career as an A-10 pilot, air traffic controller / supervisor and a major airline pilot. Learn about his combat deployments and the challenges and rewards of air traffic control, as well as his deep-rooted love for aviation. The conversation highlighted the intricacies of air traffic control, the camaraderie among controllers, and the importance of clear communication between pilots and controllers. We also delved into the A-10 ‘Hog's combat capabilities, discussing missions over Iraq and personal experiences with the aircraft. The episode featured humorous anecdotes and insightful reflections, blending technical aviation insights with personal narratives. Additionally, we spotlight our sponsor, Flight Training International, and their pilot training programs. Towards the end, Bacchus recounted a memorable low-fuel mission, explained the origin of his call sign inspired by the Greek god, and shared experiences from Aviano and the National Military Airspace Command. CT ANG Warthog Warthogs in Flight F-100s Original Sqn Aircraft

Named after Scrabble's podcast, this week we feature a dynamic conversation with British Royal Navy Sea Harrier pilot, Scrabble. The episode blends humor, aviation tales, and insights into the life and experiences of a Royal Navy Harrier pilot. He shared stories from his aviation career, discussing the unique challenges and exhilarations of flying the Sea Harrier, including stories of engine an failure and a canopy shattering. He also touched on his passion for gliding, highlighting the thrill of flying without an engine and participating in competitive glider races around the world. We also delved into his efforts to help other pilots through his businesses, Flight Deck Wingman and Flight School Wingman, which assist pilots in navigating the complexities of airline recruitment processes. Screenshot Flight Deck Wingman & Flight School Wingman

In this episode of "So There I Was," we meet Messman, a former Navy P-3 Naval Flight Officer and a riveting storyteller with experiences that keep you on the edge of your seat. This episode features Messman's harrowing and often humorous tales from his time as a naval flight officer and beyond. Right from the start, Messman's vibrant personality and candid storytelling grip you. He shares gritty details from his service in the 1960s, providing an authentic slice of military life during tumultuous times. His stories are filled with the rough-and-tumble of service life, complete with the candid and explicit language that marked the era, earning this podcast its explicit rating. Messman recounts episodes that are as nerve-wracking as they are uproarious. From narrowly escaping death multiple times in a single flight to humorous and human interactions with Air Traffic controllers and fellow servicemen, his stories resonate with authenticity and a raw edge that's rare. This episode is more than just recounting tales of past glories; it's a reflection on resilience, quick thinking, and the often-overlooked aspects of military camaraderie. Messman's storytelling doesn't just paint a picture of a man who has lived through extraordinary circumstances; it also offers listeners a vivid portrayal of the era's cultural and social milieu, bringing history to life through personal recollection. Wings of My Father Book Cover Screenshot

Swede joins us to talk about his Naval Career from The Boat School (USNA) to flying in the Patrol Navy. Some Amazing and hilarious stories are in this week's show throughout. Don't miss hearing about his near bail-out of a T-34 or how he got his callsign! Strap in and don't sit on the condition lever! Swede will keep us straight & level!

Hold on to your hats, because this week on So There I Was, we've got a guest who's practically done it all. Fig and RePete are thrilled to welcome Paco to the cockpit as he takes us through his incredible journey from becoming a Navy Attack Pilot to soaring through the skies as a Navy Fighter Pilot. Ever wondered what it's like to stare death in the face and live to tell the tale? Well, Paco's got a hair-raising story about a near-death experience in an F-5 that'll have you on the edge of your seat. And let's not forget the cherry on top – how he scored his own 'private parking spot' on Kemo's six-o'clock! (Yes, you heard that right – we're talking about a dogfight to remember). So, buckle up and prepare for some high-flying hijinks, close calls, and plenty of laughs as Paco joins us for an episode that promises to be as thrilling as it is hilarious. Tune in to hear Fig and RePete navigate through Paco's wild ride in the sky and find out why he's the talk of the town – or should we say, the talk of the tarmac! Don't miss it – Episode 114 of So There I Was is taking off now!

Cory Cromwell, a former curator at the San Diego Air & Space Museum, joins us to share some of the many encounters he had with legends of history and aviation. From General Jimmy Doolittle to Neil Armstrong and even our friend from Episode 54, Brian Shul, Cory delivers the human side of these legendary aviators and his encounters with them during his 20 years at the museum. Join us to hear these amazing and heart-warming tales of people who made history as Cory makes some of their history more personal and real.

Spook joins us to talk about becoming a Marine pilot, Reuniting with Fig after 37 years, Flying the Hornet in the Marines and the Royal Australian Air Force. Find out why he chose the Marines over the Air Force and the Navy. Find out how he got his callsign. Learn that he has video proof that HE was the one to shoot down a drone tractor. Hear how he placed in a race he wasn't even in. Find out why he was grounded on his 1000th hour in the Hornet - and why he became the Supreme Commander of Marine Forces, Northern Australia. All this and more in a great week with another great aviator!

Th is Kemo's hat-trick show as we comes to tell us all about flying CAS (Hint - It's NOT about Close Air Support!)Flying Contract Air Services is a job most of us aren't aware exists - What a waste! And a myriad of other subjects... try 'n keep up!