"The Newfangled Lawyer Podcast" offers a fresh perspective of lawyers. Through candid conversations and storytelling, we aim to humanize the lawyer experience. By doing so, we want to provide opportunities for our listeners to get to know lawyers in a unique way. In our episodes, we feature lawyers discussing their passions, sharing unique stories, and offering insights into their lives outside of the law. We challenge preconceived notions and emphasize the multifaceted nature of lawyers. We hope to inspire our listeners to embrace their own humanity and stories.
About ErinErin Gerner is an attorney turned elite coach, speaker and founder of the Powerhouse Lawyers community. She helps high-achieving women in law reclaim their power, set bold boundaries, and build lives and careers they actually love. Through her podcast, retreats, and coaching programs, Erin empowers women to define success on their own terms—without sacrificing themselves in the process.https://www.linkedin.com/in/erin-gernerwww.eringerner.com
This episode features Allie Levene, a lawyer revolutionizing legal services, particularly for small businesses and nonprofits. Her view of the law is that it is not as an elite profession, but is a vehicle to help the everyday person. She opens up about the challenges of fitting into traditional law firms that weren't designed for her differences and her desire to make legal support truly accessible.Discover why Allie passionately advocates for flat-fee billing and presents services via a "menu," seeing it as a way to remove skepticism clients often hold towards traditional lawyers and to even the playing field. Her core mission is educating clients, empowering them to handle legal issues themselves over time. Hear about her creative methods for simplifying complex legal concepts, such as using the debate "Is a hot dog a sandwich?" to teach argument and reasoning to second and third graders.The conversation explores common misconceptions about lawyers, the critical distinction between what is strictly legal and what is ethical or moral, and the importance of navigating uncertainty in the law. They discuss the significant risks of relying on readily available, non-traditional sources like Reddit, Legal Zoom, or ChatGPT for legal help. Allie shares a crucial perspective: compliance is not 100% perfection, and what truly matters is what you do after a mistake occurs. She explains how empowering clients to understand and interact with the law not only benefits them but also builds valuable relationships and generates referrals, akin to the idea of teaching someone to fish.Tune in as they discuss necessary improvements in the legal profession, highlighting the need for authenticity, humanizing lawyers, and prioritizing mental health. She shares how launching her own practice in January 2024 provided the vital flexibility needed to be present for her children's school activities and daily pickups, while acknowledging the privilege that facilitated this path. Ultimately, she views lawyers as essential community helpers.Beyond the law, learn about Allie's personal interests, including her passion for Legos and her collection of meaningful tattoos. This episode offers an insightful and refreshing perspective on creating a legal practice that is transparent, client-centric, and dedicated to promoting equitable access to justice.About AllieAllie Levene is the founder of Levene Legal, a Connecticut-based law firm dedicated to providing affordable legal services to small businesses and nonprofits. Allie helps clients navigate legal issues at every stage of their business by helping them understand their legal obligations and options, without all of the confusing legal jargon. She believes in empowering organizations to prioritize proactive legal support to protect their business. https://www.linkedin.com/in/allie-levene/https://www.levenelegal.com/
Join host Patrick Patino and guest Bradley Miller as they discuss finding peace while practicing law in your own way. Bradley discusses deprioritizing his identity as a lawyer and what that reframe brought to his life. About BradleyHelping Create a Better Legal Profession | Happy Lawyers → Happy Clients | Legal Counsel for Franchisees and Small Business Buyers & Sellers | #LawyerDad #LawyersWhoWoowww.linkedin.com/in/bradleymillerwww.newmodernlawyer.comwww.bradleymillerlaw.com
Join host Patrick Patino and guest Johnathan Merel. With a focus on bringing comfort to his clients, Jonathan has created a family law firm that provides a refreshing experience, bucking the traditional way of doing things. Jonathan has made his impact by reshaping what a law firm looks like. This episode is filled with laughter, no-BS insights, and pushback on traditional ways of thinking about practicing law. About JonathanJonathan Merel is an experienced attorney who advocates for his clients in all divorce and family law proceedings, including settlement negotiations and trials. Jonathan founded Merel Family Law in early 2009 after working for many years at another family law firm in Chicago. Through his hard work and unwavering dedication to his clients, Jonathan has quickly grown the firm to become one of the premier divorce and family law firms in the Chicagoland area.https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathanmerel/https://merelfamilylaw.com/
In this episode of The Newfangled Lawyer, Karen Munoz discusses the personal and professional impact of working in high-trauma legal practice areas and what led her to study and practice yoga, mindfulness, and eventually trauma therapy. She and host Patrick Patino unpack the mental toll of practicing law, the weight of vicarious trauma, and how presence, community, and self-awareness helped her build a new path forward.About KarenKaren Munoz is a veteran plaintiff's attorney, wellness educator, and founder of Roaring Grace, a legal wellness consultancy. With nearly 20 years of trauma-informed practice, she now blends law and psychology to help lawyers lead with clarity, resilience, and heart.https://www.linkedin.com/in/karenmunoz/https://www.roaringgrace.com/
In this episode of The Newfangled Lawyer, Patrick Patino and Maddison Koper get real about what it means to build a legal career—and a life—on your own terms. They swap stories about running your own firm, blending personal and professional identities, and choosing authenticity over outdated expectations. Maddison shares her journey of creating a law practice that actually fits who she is, while Patrick reflects on why being a lawyer today means designing your own path instead of following someone else's. If you have ever wondered whether you can be both yourself and a successful lawyer, this conversation will show you the answer is a resounding yes.About MaddisonMaddison Koper is a spiritual entrepreneur blending wellness, coaching, and law to help others create a balanced life and business. She and her husband, Connor, co-founded MaddConscious, a lifestyle e-commerce brand and wellness community where she leads movement and breathwork as a Pilates and fitness instructor. Through Life Coach Lawyer, she offers 1:1 coaching to support entrepreneurs in both business and personal growth. Sunshine Law Firm brings a fresh, accessible approach to LLCs, contracts, and trademarks. Whether guiding legal strategy or mindful growth, Maddison empowers others to build, protect, and live their dreams.https://www.linkedin.com/in/maddison-koper-esq-a1085b129/https://lifecoachlawyer.net/
In this episode host Patrick Patino is joined by guest Drew Amoroso to discuss lawyer coaching, non-attachment, and bringing kind and gentle masculine energy to the practice of law.About DrewDrew Amoroso is a former lawyer and the Founder of DueCourse, the legal industry's only platform enabled coaching company. He's a recognized workday coach and thought leader on how to bring a human-centered approach to the future of work and work models that promote ahappier workforce - starting with DueCourse. The company shifted to a four-day workweek in August 2024.Drew founded DueCourse in 2018 to help professionals design an intentional, authentic, and values-driven approach to their workday and career. The company partners withinnovative talent teams at AmLaw 200 firms deliver impactful coaching at scale, specializing in cohort-based and 1-1 coaching.Prior to DueCourse, he was a senior litigation associate at Reed Smith LLP and is a visiting lecturer at three Bay Area law schools where he teaches a Practice Ready Seminar designed to prepare law students to make the transition from students to practice-ready lawyers.https://www.linkedin.com/in/drewamoroso/www.duecourse.coach
Join Patrick Patino on The Newfangled Lawyer Podcast as he sits down with John Avi Socha, Chief Operating Officer at Hemmatt Law Group, a prominent family law firm in Seattle. John shares his journey and experiences in driving innovation through technology, automation, effective management practices, and embracing novelty. John dives into the challenges of maintaining a high-touch client experience while scaling operations and discusses his approach to building a firm culture that embraces innovation without losing the human element. This episode offers valuable insights and actionable advice for legal professionals aiming to modernize their practices, boost productivity, and stay competitive in an evolving legal landscape.Perfect for attorneys, legal tech enthusiasts, and law firm leaders committed to growth and excellence!About JohnJohn Avi Socha serves as the Chief Operating Officer of the Hemmat Law Group, a complex family litigation firm headquartered in Seattle, Washington. He is the Co-Host of Gossip Without Prejudice, a podcast profiling the ways the legal industry fails society. A triple attendee of the University of Washington, John champions change in the legal industry through storytelling and public advocacy for a kinder industry. https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnavisocha/https://gossipwithoutprejudice.com/
In this episode, host Patrick Patino returns from a brief hiatus and sits down with Brandy Wilson Edwards, a self-described "multi-passionate person and professional." While Brandy is an attorney and motivational speaker, much of the conversation focuses on her vibrant identity beyond traditional titles. She shares her love for hot yoga, abstract painting, personal development, and her unapologetic obsession with the color pink. The two dive into the evolving concept of professional identity, with Brandy emphasizing the importance of embracing all facets of oneself rather than limiting identity to a job title. This insightful and uplifting dialogue encourages lawyers and anyone in a high-performing role to reflect on their full selves and pursue joy, passion, and authenticity alongside their careers.About BrandyAttorney, Author, Motivational Speaker and Well-Being Advocate, Brandy Wilson Edwards empowers you to be a zealous advocate for yourself while challenging you to pursue your potential. Brandy works with organizations that prioritize well-being and want to use the power of mindset to create happier, engaged, and confident professionals. Brandy is obsessed with personal development and believes both your happiness and well-being should be non-negotiable.She obtained her undergraduate degree from the University of North Texas and received her law degree from Oklahoma City University School of Law. As a multi-passionate person and professional, Brandy is also certified to teach yoga and mindfulness. Her life mantra is "Be Strong and Courageous", which she encourages you to adopt so you live with more courage and less regret. https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandy-wilson-edwards-esq/www.BrandyWilsonEdwards.com
In this episode, Patrick is joined by Henry Nelson-Case, a UK-based lawyer and content creator, for an engaging conversation about breaking traditional molds in law. Henry shares his unconventional journey from a traditional legal career to becoming a social media influencer, balancing the structured world of law with the creative freedom of content creation. He reflects on the challenges of stepping outside professional norms and the rewards of building a digital community. Through personal anecdotes, Henry reveals how platforms like TikTok have transformed his confidence, allowed him to connect with people worldwide, and opened doors to unexpected opportunities, from TEDx talks to global collaborations. Together, Patrick and Henry explore themes of authenticity, innovation, and rethinking what it means to be a lawyer. They challenge outdated stereotypes, encouraging lawyers to embrace their individuality and unique voices. The episode highlights the importance of continuous learning, self-expression, and letting go of rigid notions of professionalism, offering practical insights for lawyers looking to adapt to the profession's rapidly changing landscape. Whether you're a lawyer seeking inspiration or simply curious about the intersection of law and creativity, this episode is a thought-provoking and uplifting listen. About Henry Alongside working as a lawyer, Henry creates relatable and impactful content on social media that aims to positively impact the lives of all those who have been affected by negative corporate workplace behaviours. In doing so, Henry strives to promote the importance of mental health and wellbeing in the workplace and challenge such toxic corporate behaviours. Henry has also delivered a TedX talk on how toxic masculinity negatively impacts mens mental health, alongside speaking on BBC World News on Millennial and Gen Z behaviours. Henry has also spoken at Oxford and Cambridge universities and has also lead discussions at a whole host of UK conferences. https://www.linkedin.com/in/henrynelsoncase/ https://www.henrynelsoncase.co.uk
In this engaging episode of The Newfangled Lawyer, host Patrick Patino sits down with Justie Nicol, founder of Colorado Lawyer Team, to discuss her decade-long journey as a firm owner and her experiences as a legal professional in today's rapidly evolving world. Patrick and Justie recount their first meeting at ClioCon in Austin, where a chance introduction over unexpectedly great pizza laid the foundation for this insightful conversation. Justie shares the highs and lows of running her own firm for over ten years, offering a glimpse into her focus areas of criminal defense, family law, and civil litigation. With honesty and humor, she reflects on the lessons learned from balancing the demands of law firm ownership while staying connected to her passion for client advocacy. The discussion highlights the power of networking, the value of attending industry conferences, and the importance of embracing change in the legal field. Justie and Patrick explore topics like maintaining work-life balance, leveraging technology to streamline legal practices, and fostering meaningful client relationships. Whether you're a seasoned attorney, a law student, or someone curious about the inner workings of modern legal practice, this episode is packed with practical advice, personal anecdotes, and actionable insights. Join Patrick and Justie for a thoughtful conversation that underscores the adaptability, resilience, and innovation required to thrive as a newfangled lawyer. About Justie Justie Nicol is a feisty, red-headed, nerdy, dog & toddler mom, with a variety of legal experience who's actually a PERSON (human first, then attorney) and who wants to GENUINELY HELP her clients. Justie practices primarily criminal defense work but is also well-known for innovation, systems-design, and using legal tech to achieve great results for the firm and her clients. Justie is often teaching other lawyers about tech stacks , guest-lecturing at local universities about animal law, teaching animal control officers how to testify and investigate, or giving webinars on law firm automation. She is the Colorado Lawyer Team visionary. https://www.linkedin.com/in/justieforjustice/ https://colawteam.com
Patrick Patino welcomes guest Heather Moulder, a former corporate finance attorney turned career and business coach for lawyers, to discuss what it means to be a "newfangled lawyer." Heather shares her journey from 18 years in Big Law to helping attorneys align their personal values with their professional practice. Together, they explore the importance of authenticity, self-awareness, and value-driven decision-making in creating a fulfilling and successful legal career. About Heather: Heather Moulder is a former Big Law partner turned lawyer coach who traded in her multi-million dollar law practice to help lawyers build their own seven-figure law practice to support the life they actually want to live. Using her unique mindset, values and strengths-based framework, Heather is known for helping clients 10x their performance while also reenergizing professionally. When not assisting her clients achieve balanced success, you'll most likely find Heather cooking a never-guess-it's-gluten-free meal from scratch or cheering on her 2 baseball-obsessed boys in the searing hot Texas sun. https://www.linkedin.com/in/heathermoulder/ https://www.coursecorrectioncoaching.com/
In this episode of The Newfangled Lawyer podcast, Patrick Patino welcomes Allison Harrison, the founder of ALH Law Group, a firm celebrating its 10th anniversary. Allison shares her journey of building a firm that specializes in estate planning for the queer community while also maintaining a unique niche in representing car dealers. She discusses the success of embracing her firm's unconventional identity. Allison provides thoughtful insights into the importance of authenticity and persistence in building a sustainable legal practice. She recounts the hurdles of establishing her business and the innovative approaches she has taken to address the diverse needs of her clients. The conversation also touches on the broader challenges faced by lawyers trying to carve out nontraditional paths in the legal field, emphasizing the value of staying true to one's vision. Listeners will gain practical advice and inspiration from Allison's story of perseverance and innovation. Whether you're navigating niche legal markets or looking to make your mark in the industry, her journey offers a refreshing perspective on what it takes to build a law firm with purpose and personality. About Allison Allison Harrison founded ALH Law Group in 2014 with a clear mission: to provide practical, no-nonsense legal services to small businesses and individuals, especially those underserved or facing unique challenges. She's passionate about empowering minority-owned businesses and the LGBTQ+ community, offering them a trusted partner to navigate complex legal landscapes. From defending small businesses in consumer disputes to guiding estate planning with care and transparency, Allison's work is rooted in a drive to make the law more accessible and equitable. Over the past four years, she has reimagined her team, blending innovative technology with personalized service to deliver exceptional results without losing the human touch. When she's not advocating for her clients, Allison enjoys traveling the world with her wife, Heidi, doting on her cats, Stabler and Benson, and hitting the golf course, snowboarding slopes, or tennis court. https://www.linkedin.com/in/alharrisonlaw/ https://www.alhlaw.com/
In this episode of The Newfangled Lawyer podcast, host Patrick Patino welcomes Frank Ramos, a Miami-based civil defense lawyer with a flair for innovation and a passion for AI. Frank shares his journey into the world of artificial intelligence, explaining how he became captivated by the technology when ChatGPT passed the bar exam in 2023. Now, he's an avid AI evangelist, incorporating it into his daily practice to streamline tasks like deposition preparation and case analysis, which has not only enhanced his productivity but also reshaped his client interactions. Frank discusses how AI has transformed the legal landscape and shares practical insights into leveraging it ethically and effectively. The conversation then takes a reflective turn as Frank opens up about his upbringing in Chicago, where he navigated a tough environment that demanded vigilance and adaptability. He recounts his experiences growing up near gang territories and how they instilled in him a keen sense of observation—a skill he now uses to excel in depositions and courtroom settings. Frank's story sheds light on how his past shaped his resilience and ability to size up situations, which have become invaluable in his legal career. His openness about the challenges and lessons from his youth provides listeners with a unique perspective on how personal history can influence professional success. Frank also shares how his experience with OCD has heightened his ability to notice details that others might miss, turning what could be seen as a limitation into a unique strength. The discussion covers a wide array of topics, from his thoughts on social media's impact on younger generations to the importance of curiosity and lifelong learning. Throughout, Frank exemplifies what it means to be a "newfangled lawyer," constantly evolving and adapting to the ever-changing legal landscape. About Frank: Frank Ramos is a seasoned civil litigation attorney with over 26 years of experience, currently serving as a partner at Goldberg Segalla in Miami. Specializing in retail and hospitality, product liability, and alternative dispute resolution, Frank has built a reputation for his strategic defense work across diverse industries, from pharmaceuticals to construction. He is especially known for his success in defending high-stakes cases involving catastrophic personal injuries, commercial disputes, and transportation-related claims. His notable accolades include being named Miami's Product Liability Lawyer of the Year for both 2020 and 2023 by *The Best Lawyers in America*. In addition to his practice, Frank is a prolific writer and speaker, having authored over 20 books and 500 articles on various aspects of law, litigation management, and career development. He has also delivered more than 400 presentations, sharing insights with legal professionals on topics ranging from trial skills to the ethical use of artificial intelligence. Frank's contributions extend to mentoring young lawyers through his books, such as From Law School to Litigator and The Associates' Handbook, as well as through one-on-one conversations and numerous public speaking engagements. Recognized as a thought leader, Frank is deeply involved in industry organizations, including the Federation of Defense and Corporate Counsel, where he serves on multiple committees. His dedication to advancing the legal profession has earned him numerous awards and honors, such as the Martindale-Hubbell AV Preeminent rating and consistent recognition in *Florida Super Lawyers*. Beyond his legal practice, Frank remains committed to helping clients navigate the evolving landscape of artificial intelligence, ensuring they adopt these technologies safely and effectively. https://www.linkedin.com/in/miamimentor/
Join host Patrick Patino and guest Shane Seppinni on a laugh-filled episode where they discuss living in awe, creating boundaries, and giving yourself permission to doing things differently. About Shane: Shane Seppinni founded Seppinni Law. Seppinni Law is a preeminent plaintiffs law firm headquartered in New York City, representing employees and survivors against Corporate America and abusers. After graduating from Stanford Law School, where he was a member of the Black Law Students Association, Shane worked as a Civil Rights Public Defender at the Bronx Defenders. Shane then joined the trial law firm of Quinn Emanuel Urquhart & Sullivan. Before becoming a lawyer, Shane worked at Google studying tech companies' employment practices. Shane was the first student from his public high school to be admitted to Cornell University, where he studied Industrial Labor Relations as an undergrad. Shane lives in Brooklyn with his wife, their son, and their dog. https://www.linkedin.com/in/seppinni/ https://www.seppinnilaw.com
Join host Patrick Patino and guest Shams Merchant as they discuss taking ownership of your career with joy. Shams shares how he started building a book of business even before becoming a licensed attorney and how he took control of his career through intentional business/personal brand development. About Shams Shams is a real estate private equity attorney, representing investors, developers and real estate private equity firms in their transactional and securities matters. Shams has represented some of the largest real estate investment firms in the world and currently represents many active real estate players in the Texas market. https://www.cre.law/ https://mwfirm.com/shams-merchant https://www.linkedin.com/in/shams-merchant/ About this episodes sponsor stage: Stage is a women-owned legal marketing and business development firm specializing in business development coaching and actionable strategies to boost empathy, revenue, and visibility for lawyers, with a particular focus on women. They love working with lawyers and legal marketers to turn touchpoints into “trustpoints.” They believe stage stands out as one of the pioneering in-house legal marketing teams to transition from Big Law and launch an independent company as a united team. They stay true to their ethos by providing free business development coaching to support working parents before/after parental leave. Their love of working together shines through for all who collaborate with them. They bring experience from Big Law + Big Four + investment banking. They have worked side-by-side with lawyers at all levels, bringing together practice groups, collaborating with professional/talent development teams, and deepening client relationships and revenue ranging from start-ups to Fortune 500.
In this episode of The Newfangled Lawyer Podcast, host Patrick welcomes Krisina Zuñiga, a newly minted partner at Susman Godfrey, as the first episode of Season 3 following a brief hiatus. Krisina offers insights into balancing a demanding legal career while maintaining personal well-being. Krisina shares her path to becoming a partner, highlighting her background growing up in Laredo, Texas, a border town, and her experiences as both a federal law clerk and attorney. She reflects on how her upbringing shaped her professional identity. Krisina also explains how her philosophy studies, particularly in ethics and logic, enhanced her ability to navigate the complexities of law with a sharp, analytical approach, bringing a fresh perspective to her litigation work. The conversation explores being a female Hispanic attorney and how Krisina manages the balance between her legal career and motherhood. She describes her approach to handling both worlds with intention, supported by a strong family network and a firm culture that embraces work-life balance. Krisina also touches on her mentorship and involvement in the community, emphasizing the importance of setting boundaries and prioritizing what truly matters. This engaging episode offers a fresh take on what it means to be a "newfangled lawyer" — one who embraces both professional excellence and personal fulfillment. Krisina's story is not only a testament to her resilience but also an inspiration for attorneys who aspire to make meaningful choices in their careers and lives. About Krisina: Krisina Zuñiga represents plaintiffs and defendants in all types of commercial litigation. Career highlights include securing a dismissal of the FTC's antitrust challenges to client Intercontinental Exchange's proposed $11+ billion acquisition of Black Knight; winning a nearly $40 million judgment for the defendant Repeat Precision after a federal court trial; and representing the City of Baltimore in its litigation against the opioid distributors and manufacturers that fueled the worst opioid epidemic in the country, which litigation is ongoing and has already resulted in $242.5 million in settlements, a larger recovery than the City would have received under the global settlement. Krisina has been recognized by the American Bar Association as one of the nation's Top 40 Lawyers Under 40, by the National Law Journal as a Rising Star of the Plaintiff's Bar, by Super Lawyers as a “Rising Star,” by Bloomberg Law as an “Intellectual Property Fresh Face,” by Texas Lawyer as one of fewer than 30 lawyers “On the Rise,” and by the Greater Houston Women's Chamber of Commerce as a “Breakthrough Woman.” Krisina joined Susman Godfrey after clerking for the Honorable Diana Saldaña of the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Texas in her hometown of Laredo, Texas, and the Honorable Jennifer Walker Elrod of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit. Krisina earned her J.D. from Stanford Law School after graduating summa cum laude from Rice University. She is a past president of the Houston Young Lawyers Association and a board member of the Houston Bar Foundation and the Hispanic Bar Association of Houston. www.linkedin.com/in/krisina-zuniga https://www.susmangodfrey.com/attorneys/krisina-zuniga/
To wrap up Season 2, Ryan McLaughlin & Derek Witte join me for a conversation where I play more episode participant than host. This is for sure the most I have shared in an episode of the podcast, a first look into what I have going on, my approach to life (and the practice of law), and being okay with being. I ask more questions than I have answers to. Derek & Ryan encourage deep conversation with curious questions. Grateful for these and all of the connections that I have made doing the podcast. We are all more connected than we know. About Derek: I am the General Counsel for an insure tech. I started my legal life as a big firm litigator, then taught law school, owned by own law firm and eventually found my way inhouse. I am a lifelong learner exploring what it means to be a fully engaged and present human and a lawyer. https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-witte-527a559/
About Josh: Joshua Brumley is the managing attorney at Brumley Law Firm, a professor, and an author. Once a young punk who faced more than his share of adversity, he was motivated to practice law in defense of vulnerable communities and still applies a community-first punk approach to his work. After a start in criminal defense, Joshua began practicing family law free of charge – he doesn't believe in profiting from family strife – but it wasn't long before money ran out. When he started practicing personal injury to fund his pro bono work, it illuminated that industry's exploitation too. In response, he forged a path for a new kind of PI practice that improves access to justice through core punk principles: mutual aid, anti-racism, equity, and never (ever) selling out. Brumley Law Firm is a blueprint for better, human-first law practice. He provides free access to rights education at local community centers and on his podcast, offers numerous free resources like translation services, and is a professor at Highline College's legal studies program. https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuabrumley/ https://brumleylawfirm.com/ https://www.instagram.com/joshxbrumley/
About Megan: Megan Senese, a former Big Law legal marketing and business development professional, is now the co-founder of stage. stage, a women-owned legal marketing and business development firm, specializes in coaching and actionable strategies to boost empathy, revenue, and visibility for lawyers, with a particular focus on women. stage stands out as one of the pioneering in-house legal marketing teams to transition from Big Law and launch an independent venture as a united team. Additionally, stage provides free business development coaching to support working parents before and after parental leave. Megan brings over 16 years of experience in professional services marketing and business development, covering personalized coaching, revenue growth strategies, new team development, co-selling initiatives, programming, and content campaigns for profile building. Her passion and expertise make her a valuable asset in the legal marketing and business development field. https://www.linkedin.com/in/megansenese/ www.stage.guide
About Brian: Brian Beckcom is one of the nation's leading trial lawyers as well as a Philosopher and Computer Scientist. Brian is the founder and host of "Lessons from Leaders," a podcast that features national and international leaders. He received degrees in Computer Science and Philosophy from Texas A&M. Brian graduated with honors from the University of Texas School of Law. Brian is the founding partner and owner of VB Attorneys in Houston, Texas. He is an accomplished golfer, fly fisherman, author, Dad, and husband.
About Chris: Chris Valdheims is an entrepreneur, writer, podcaster, and lawyer dedicated to helping creative people turn things into reality. While he does a lot of this through his innovative law firm, Counsel for Creators, he also shares insight into the creative process on his podcast. Chris has long been an innovator in the legal field, and is well known for pioneering one of the first viable subscription/based law firms. https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisvaldheims https://counselforcreators.com
About Chad: Chad is a Coach, Advisor and Speaker. His mission is to help everyone he can uncover their natural gifts, so they are more successful and fulfilled in their career. Chad has shared his message and tools with individuals and organizations around the world, including Google and on the TEDx stage. He is the host of the What You're About podcast and is a former General Counsel and Lawyer in a national Law Firm. linkedin.com/in/chadaboud https://www.chadaboud.com/
About Lauren: Lauren is a consultant lawyer, Human Design guide and career strategist. As the creator of Legally Different, Lauren's mission is to support legal professionals to create careers, businesses & beyond by design. Powered by a passion to; transform the one-size-fits-all model for success, create feelings of true personal fulfilment and improve team & collective working dynamics, Lauren's work marries soul-level depth with strategy & pragmatism to inspire, empower & equip people to understand and leverage their innate blueprint for success. www.legallydifferent.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauren-kay-o%E2%80%99sullivan-96139570/
About Anastasia: Yale-trained tax lawyer turned lawyer lifecycle expert, with broad knowledge of law firm practice, in-house legal talent, alternative legal services and technology, and academia. Currently leading innovation efforts at Utah Law, and previously held transformational and change management roles at Practical Law, Axiom and Yale Law School. Obsessed with how we teach and train lawyers and prepare them to lead. Fascinated by the legal service model - its limitations and its possibilities. Passionate about facilitating the success of others through operational efficiency and talent optimization. https://www.linkedin.com/in/anastasiaboyko/
About Paul: Paul Karvanis is a recovering lawyer, an author, speaker, and coach. He practiced as a corporate lawyer for 12 years (in private practice, in-house, and government). He's been coaching for 6+ years and has created The Happy Lawyer project, where he has interviewed over 100 lawyers, determined the blueprint to being happy as a lawyer, and put it all into his new book The Happy Lawyer. https://www.linkedin.com/in/karvanis/ https://leaderrising.com/
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Join Albert and I for an awesome conversation about the excitement of learning new things and using that as a foundational part of practicing law. About Albert: Albert Tawil is the Founder & CEO of Lateral Hub, the popular job board for laterals to find jobs at top firms, and Summer Associate Hub, a free resource and content hub for law students to navigate the BigLaw recruiting process. Albert is a former IP/Technology Transactions associate at Cleary Gottlieb and Fenwick & West in New York. https://www.linkedin.com/in/albert-tawil/ lateralhub.com summerassociatehub.com
In this lil' nugget of a bonus episode Nick Hansen, Communications Manager at ABA, and I jam out to authentic relationship building.
Join me and Adriana Paris, the only other attorney that might say "dude" more than I do, in the 29th Episode of The Newfangled Lawyer Podcast. We chat about productivity, recovering attorney life, yoga, discovering who you are, and so much more! About Adriana: As the Director of Attorney Development and Recruiting at Rissman Law, Adriana oversees the hiring, training, and retention of lawyers who share our firm's values and vision. She has more than 10 years of experience as a civil litigator, working in-house and at two large law firms, where she handled complex and high-stakes cases across various industries and jurisdictions. She also wrote "Rising Lawyer," a practical guide for law students and junior associates who want to succeed in the legal profession. Earlier this year, Adriana ventured into the world of coaching where she works 1:1 with lawyers on productivity, implementing better time skills & reworking their daily routines in order to create more time for their personal lives. https://www.linkedin.com/in/adrianaparis/ adrianaparis.com
Pat and Pat on a Podcast. Pat Veilleux moved with his family from Canada to Costa Rica to embrace his family's motto of live life like an adventure. That same ethos and theme shows up throughout our conversation. About Pat: Pat is a Fractional General Counsel with over 16 years of experience as a commercial and technology lawyer. Currently living in Costa Rica, Pat runs a successful virtual law practice that is among the most fulfilling work of his career. In 2023, Pat made the transition from being a successful in-house attorney at Shopify to establishing his own practice. He believes that lawyers should be accessible and responsive, with an enabler attitude that gets excited about sales and products. He is part of the trailblazers breaking down the barriers of the billable hour, advocating for a practice that doesn't rely on personas. https://veilleuxlaw.co/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/pat-veilleux-967845186/
In this episode of the Newfangled Lawyer Podcast, host Patrick Patino sits down with guest Jonah Perlin to explore the windy road of the professional journey. Jonah, the host of "How I Lawyer," shares insightful perspectives on how lawyers can navigate their professional paths with flexibility and resilience. They discuss the evolving roles of fathers in the legal profession and society, challenging traditional perceptions and embracing the idea of being an active, present parent. Jonah reflects on his experiences in private practice, transitioning to academia, and the surprising journey of launching and sustaining his podcast. They touch on the power of narrative in legal education and the importance of sharing diverse stories to inspire the next generation of lawyers. The conversation delves into the importance of storytelling in the legal profession, emphasizing the value of diverse narratives and experiences. Jonah highlights the need for lawyers to share their stories authentically, disrupting confirmation biases and inspiring the next generation of legal professionals. Patrick and Jonah discuss the evolving perception of creativity in the legal field, challenging traditional notions of success and highlighting the role of problem-solving and innovation. Drawing parallels between sports and law, they explore the mindset of high-performing individuals and the importance of embracing the unexpected twists and turns in one's career. With anecdotes from their own journeys, Patrick and Jonah offer practical advice for lawyers seeking fulfillment and purpose in their professional lives. From embracing uncertainty to finding joy in the unexpected, this episode inspires listeners to embrace the winding road of legal careers and seize opportunities for growth and self-discovery. Tune in to gain valuable insights into the evolving landscape of legal careers and discover how embracing uncertainty can lead to new possibilities and personal fulfillment. About Jonah: Jonah Perlin is an Associate Professor of Law, Legal Practice at the Georgetown University Law Center. Jonah teaches and writes about legal communication, legal ethics, and technology of law. Jonah is also the host of How I Lawyer, a Top-25 Careers Podcast where he has conducted more than 125 interviews with lawyers about what they do, why they do it, and how they do it well. Previously, Jonah was a litigator at Williams & Connolly LLP and a law clerk on the District Court for the District of Columbia and the Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit. https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonah-perlin-7554025/ howilawyer.com
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Guest Tony Albrecht joins host Patrick Patino for the 26th episode of The Newfangled Lawyer Podcast to discuss wandering, taking risks, and finding yourself in the process. From a Guam jail cell to selling all of his belongings and flying to Bangkok to silent retreats in India, Tony has experienced an amazing breadth of living life. Join us as we explore the non-linear life of Tony Albrecht. About Tony: I was a lawyer. Now I run a newfangled marketing agency, CONTENDER. ;-) https://www.linkedin.com/in/tony-albrecht/ Unrationed
In the 25th episode of the Newfangled Lawyer Podcast, host Patrick Patino engages in a candid and insightful conversation with guest Elena Gurevich. The episode delves into the evolving landscape of the legal profession, emphasizing the importance of human connection, authenticity, and soft skills in the face of advancing technology like AI. Elena advocates for a more humane and personalized approach to legal practice, prioritizing civility, and genuine human connection. Throughout the episode, they explore the human side of innovation, discussing how advancements in technology affect individuals on a personal and professional level. The conversation extends beyond legal matters as Elena and Patrick explore the significance of curiosity and personal growth outside the professional realm. From delving into linguistic nuances to reflecting on cultural differences in social interactions, they highlight the value of continuous learning and embracing change. They reflect on their personal journeys of embracing change and staying curious, with Elena revealing how the COVID-19 pandemic transformed her introverted nature into a desire for meaningful connections. Through their dialogue, Elena and Patrick underscore the essence of being a "newfangled lawyer" – someone who embraces authenticity, adapts to change, and prioritizes meaningful connections over traditional norms. Join them for an engaging discussion that challenges the status quo and celebrates the multifaceted nature of the legal profession. About Elena: A multilingual lawyer with a background in intellectual property law, and a keen interest in data protection, AI, and blockchain technology. I am passionate about learning and sharing my knowledge on how these technologies can transform creative industries and the legal profession. https://www.linkedin.com/in/elena-gurevich/ YouTube Channel
In this episode, host Patrick Patino sits down with Colin Levy, the Director of Legal and an Evangelist for Malbek. Colin shares insights into humanizing the legal profession, technology in the legal profession, and the importance of empathy in legal practice. Colin discusses his journey from corporate lawyer to legal tech enthusiast, emphasizing the need for lawyers to embrace their innate humanity and emotional intelligence. Drawing from personal experiences, Colin shares how struggles with mental health early in his career shaped his perspective on the legal industry's need for improvement. The conversation delves into the challenges of traditional legal education and the importance of multidisciplinary learning approaches. Colin and Patrick explore the evolving role of attorneys in a dynamic world, emphasizing adaptability and nuance over rigid frameworks. From discussing the quirks of being human to astronomy to the joys of gaming and feline companionship, this episode offers a candid and refreshing perspective on the modern legal profession. Join us as we explore what it means to be a newfangled lawyer in today's ever-changing landscape. Don't miss out on this insightful and engaging conversation between two passionate advocates for positive change in the legal world! Like, review, and share this episode to join the conversation. About Colin: Colin Levy is the author of "The Legal Tech Ecosystem" and the editor of the "Handbook of Legal Tech," serving as a dedicated guide in the legal technology sector. A corporate lawyer by training and well-known legal tech writer and speaker, he has a passion for innovation and technology. Colin has positioned himself at the intersection of business, technology, and law, aiming to illuminate and inspire about the possibilities of legal tech. Currently, as the Director of Legal and an Evangelist for Malbek, and with roles as a legal tech startup advisor and investor, he remains deeply connected to the industry's advancements. https://www.linkedin.com/in/colinslevy/ https://www.colinslevy.com https://www.malbek.io/
Dive into the 23rd episode of the Newfangled Lawyer Podcast with host Patrick Patino and guest Karl Seelbach as they explore the evolving landscape of legal practice. Beyond the buzz of artificial intelligence (AI), Patrick and Karl discuss the broader spectrum of innovation reshaping the legal profession. From challenging traditional norms to embracing new technologies, they share insights on how attorneys can adapt and thrive in a changing world. Drawing from their experiences, Patrick and Karl delve into the importance of staying curious and open to new approaches. They highlight the significance of exploring innovative ways to enhance client services and streamline workflows, from remote depositions to virtual practice models. Through engaging anecdotes and thought-provoking discussions, they underscore the importance of embracing change and seeking continuous improvement. Furthermore, Patrick and Karl reflect on the personal and professional benefits of autonomy and agency in legal careers. They discuss the freedom to prioritize family and personal well-being while delivering exemplary legal services. By sharing anecdotes and practical advice, they inspire listeners to find balance, delegate responsibilities, and cultivate a fulfilling professional life. According to Karl, being a Newfangled Lawyer means being willing to set aside traditional norms and explore better ways of practicing law. It involves challenging the status quo, continuously seeking innovation, and embracing new technologies and approaches to improve legal services for clients. Join Patrick and Karl on this insightful journey as they challenge conventional wisdom, share practical strategies, and redefine what it means to be a forward-thinking legal practitioner. Tune in to discover how embracing innovation can empower attorneys to navigate the complexities of modern legal practice with confidence and resilience. About Karl: Karl is a seasoned litigation attorney with over 17 years of experience in the courtroom, representing clients in personal injury and business litigation. He is a skilled advocate and a tenacious fighter who handles cases with precision and an eye towards trial from day one. His adversaries describe him as "skilled" and "whip smart." But Karl's legal expertise doesn't stop there - he's also the founder of Skribe.ai, a software platform for capturing legal testimony that's changing the game for attorneys and their clients. https://skribe.ai https://www.linkedin.com/in/kwseelbach/
Welcome to the 22nd episode of the Newfangled Lawyer Podcast with your host Patrick Patino. In this insightful episode, Patrick sits down with Joel Carney, the Director of Business Development at Cashroom and Of Counsel at Goosmann Law Firm, based in Omaha. Joel's journey from private practice lawyer to Chief People Officer sheds light on the evolving roles within law firms. As a natural people connector, Joel discusses the importance of fostering genuine relationships and adapting to new opportunities in the legal industry. Through engaging anecdotes and insightful reflections, Joel and Patrick delve into the essence of being a "newfangled lawyer." They explore the willingness to challenge conventional notions, take smart risks, and prioritize efficiency in legal practice. Joel shares his insights on the significance of wellness initiatives for attorneys and the value of maintaining a healthy work-life balance. Joel brings a unique perspective to the table, emphasizing the significance of relationships and personal growth in the legal profession. He challenges the stereotype of the hardened attorney, advocating for kindness, boundaries, and a balanced approach to work and life. Drawing inspiration from his family background—where his grandmother served as a trailblazing judge—Joel reflects on the importance of pursuing one's passions and embracing diverse opportunities in the legal profession. He discusses his love for travel, family, and staying active with activities like skiing and Peloton rides. Joel's journey exemplifies the importance of embracing change and focusing on what truly matters in both personal and professional life. Tune in to gain valuable insights into the dynamic landscape of modern legal practice and the importance of staying true to oneself while navigating professional growth. Join Patrick and Joel as they explore the intersection of law, technology, and human connection. About Joel: Young at heart, father of 3, and married for 24 years. I have been in private practice for almost 25 years focusing on litigation and managing my firms. I am an early adopter of new technology and have been on a never-ending quest to find ways to work smarter so I have time for my family and friends. Recently I joined Cashroom as the Director of Business Development. Our accounting and bookkeeping services are tailored specifically for law firms. The outsourcing model has struck a chord with US law firm leaders. https://www.linkedin.com/in/jcarney32/ https://www.thecashroom.com/
Join Host Patrick Patino and Guest Robert Ingalls for the 1st episode of season 2 of The Newfangled Lawyer Podcast. Robert shares how he went from being a dreamer to a dream chaser, taking his dreams and acting upon them instead of just letting them live inside of his head. About Robert: Robert Ingalls is a legal marketing expert, former litigation attorney and LawPods founder. Robert helps some of the world's largest law firms market their firms through podcasting and he can talk about why law firms need to market by constantly mentioning their niche!
Welcome to the season finale of season 1 (20th episode) of the Newfangled Lawyer Podcast, hosted by Patrick Patino. In this episode, Patrick has the pleasure of interviewing Jazz Hampton, the CEO and co-founder of TurnSignl —an innovative app reshaping the way individuals access attorneys during traffic stops. The podcast delves into Jazz's personal journey from a litigator to an entrepreneurial attorney, exploring the risks, challenges, and rewards of venturing into the world of startups. Patrick and Jazz reflect on the importance of embracing change, thinking creatively, and how Turn Signal's success is changing the landscape of legal services. Jazz's insights shed light on the importance of embracing new perspectives and the fulfillment that comes from making a positive impact in the legal industry. Join Patrick and Jazz for a thought-provoking conversation that challenges traditional legal norms and explores the limitless possibilities for innovation and change in the legal profession. This episode is a testament to the power of reimagining the role of lawyers and creating solutions that prioritize accessibility, safety, and genuine impact. About Jazz: Jazz Hampton is CEO and General Counsel at TurnSignl and an Adjunct Professor at the University of St. Thomas Opus College of Business. TurnSignl is a Minnesota-based tech company that provides real-time legal guidance from an attorney to drivers, all while their camera records the interaction.Hampton has been featured on NBC Nightly News with Lester Holt, MSNBC, CBS, NBC Top Story, and was recently named one of Minneapolis-St. Paul's 40 Under 40 for his work at TurnSignl and in the community, where he sits on the Board of Directors at the Minneapolis Foundation, Catholic Charities Twin Cities, and Great North Innocence Project. He is also a Masonic Institute for the Developing Brain's Philanthropic Advisory Council member. Finally, Jazz is on the board for the Greater North Innocence Project, and beyond his board position, he is actively representing incarcerated individuals in their legal disputes to prove their innocence and gain their freedom.Before joining TurnSignl, Hampton was the Director of Diversity and Inclusion and a practicing attorney at Foley & Mansfield, a national law firm with 150+ attorneys, as well as an adjunct professor at Mitchell Hamline School of Law, an Emerging Leader within Twin Cities Diversity in Practice, and the Co-Chair of DRI's Young Lawyer Diversity Committee. https://www.turnsignl.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/jazz-hampton/
Welcome to the 19th episode of the Newfangled Lawyer Podcast with your host, Patrick Patino! In this episode, Patrick engages in a captivating conversation with the insightful Esperanza Franco, author of "The Emotionally Intelligent Lawyer." Esperanza shares her unique perspective on embracing vulnerability, tenderness, and a multitude of emotions in the legal field. The conversation takes unexpected turns, exploring the intersection of professional and personal identity, creativity, and the importance of integrating both rational thinking and emotional intelligence. Patrick and Esperanza share their perspectives on the transformative power of pursuing activities without the pressure of being perfect. They delve into the challenges lawyers face, such as the fear of failure and the societal expectations of always excelling. Esperanza encourages law students to explore different paths and emphasizes the importance of critical thinking and curiosity in the legal profession. Esperanza opens up about her personal journey and the spiritual aspects of writing her book. The duo explores the concept of compassion in the legal field, shifting the focus from traditional measures of success to personal fulfillment and shared experiences. Join Patrick and Esperanza on this thought-provoking episode as they unravel the layers of emotional intelligence, professional growth, and the authentic human experience in the legal realm. Don't miss out on the wisdom and laughter this episode has to offer! About Esperanza Esperanza Franco is a Spanish-U.S. immigration attorney, educator, and the author of "Emotionally Intelligent Lawyers: How to Navigate the Psychological Implications of Becoming a Lawyer." She's been featured in the Arizona Attorney Magazine for her series on the lawyer mental health crisis and won the 2021 International Bar Association (IBA) Vlogging competition on Lawyer Well-being. Esperanza is also the founder of Esperanza is Hope, an online platform where she teaches academic strategy, emotional intelligence, and legal writing to law students. For more info, please visit www.esperanzaishope.com.
In the 18th episode of the Newfangled Lawyer Podcast, host Patrick Patino sits down with Jordan Levey. The episode explores the intersection of interconnectedness, well-being, and the value of incorporating moments of stillness and daydreaming into a busy attorney's schedule. Discover Jordan's array of wellness practices, from mindfulness and yoga to journaling and tarot card readings. Jordan explains how these practices have not only shaped her personal well-being but have also influenced her approach to professional development and coaching. Delve into the significance of gratitude, intentional connection, and the magic of rediscovering childhood passions, as Patrick and Jordan explore the profound impact of embracing unconventional wellness in the legal profession. Tune in to Episode 18 for a thought-provoking and inspiring conversation that challenges conventional norms and encourages listeners to explore the witchy wisdom within wellness. About Jordan Jordan Levey (she/her) is the Professional Development & Well-Being Manager at Katten, resident in Katten's Chicago office. Prior to joining Katten, Jordan practiced family law at a boutique firm and spent four years counseling law students and alumni at UIC School of Law. She is passionate about improving well-being in the legal industry, drawing on her social work training to help legal professionals become happier, healthier, and more successful. Jordan holds a JD from The John Marshall Law School, a MS/MSW from University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, and a BS from Miami University. She is an ICF-certified Lawyer Coach and certified in Mental Health First Aid. In her spare time, she enjoys yoga/mindfulness, horseback riding, gardening, and DIY home projects. https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-l-levey-15587442/
In this episode of the Newfangled Lawyer Podcast, host Patrick Patino sits down with Owen McGrann. The conversation covers a wide spectrum, from the meaning of time and the billable hour to facing mortality and embracing risk. Owen shares his unique journey into law, revealing that being a lawyer is not his primary identity. He discusses his dual practice areas—working with startups and in estate planning—and the challenges of managing two separate firms. The episode delves into Owen's perspective on risk, challenging the traditional legal mindset that seeks to minimize it. Owen sees risk as the currency of business and emphasizes the importance of understanding and embracing calculated risks. As the conversation unfolds, Owen talks about his ADHD and how it has shaped his ability to see connections and systems quickly. The discussion takes a poignant turn as Owen opens up about facing mortality. He shares a personal health crisis that led him to reevaluate his life and prioritize creative endeavors. The episode explores the power of giving oneself permission to pursue passions and the transformative impact of understanding one's mortality. Listeners gain valuable insights into the mindset of a lawyer who views his work as a creative endeavor, finding purpose and joy in every moment. The episode encourages lawyers and professionals to embrace risk, creativity, and authenticity in their practices. Patrick and Owen discuss the importance of personal time and self-care for introverts like. As they explore the challenges of burnout and the need for personal outlets, Owen shares how he has structured his businesses to align with his life rather than the other way around. The conversation delves into Owen's passion for guitars and books, revealing how he balances simplicity and abundance in his life. Owen reflects on the unique sounds of his guitars, each with its own distinct personality, and the joy he finds in playing different instruments based on his current state of mind. The duo also touches on the concept of simplicity, creativity, and the freedom that comes with letting go of things that no longer serve a purpose. As the episode unfolds, Owen and Patrick discuss the evolution of their personalities and the process of reinventing oneself. They explore the idea of interconnectedness, acknowledging the fluidity of identity and the freedom that comes with letting go. Owen shares valuable insights from his post-transplant perspective, transitioning from a type A personality to a more laid-back approach to life and work. The conversation concludes with Owen sharing his perspective on what it means to be a "newfangled lawyer." He emphasizes the importance of practicing law in a way that suits the individual and serves the needs of the clients without conforming to traditional expectations. Patrick and Owen wrap up the episode with a reflection on purpose, the significance of the podcast, and the impact it can have on attorneys navigating their professional journeys. Tune in for an hour of wisdom, laughter, and thought-provoking insights as Patrick and Owen explore the intersection of personal fulfillment and professional success on The Newfangled Lawyer Podcast. About Owen Mostly, I make dinner and walk the dog. Sometimes I write and play music. Every once in a while, people pay me to talk with them about complicated things. https://www.linkedin.com/in/omcgrann https://www.mcgrannlaw.com https://www.purelyestates.com
Hold onto your hats because this episode is a doozy. Guest Lynden Renwick covers topics ranging from living life as an adventure to using anxiety as fuel. He became a lawyer not once, but twice! First in Australia and then in the United States. In his spare time, when he isn't running his law firm providing "General Counsel as a Service" at Out-house Attorneys, he runs a vintage-never-been-opened video game e-commerce store, High Score Gaming. He has also written a novel and set a Guinness World Record. The episode takes a dive into the idea of "imposter syndrome" and how Lynden overcame it by benchmarking himself against other attorneys and recognizing his worth. He shares his inquisitive nature and how he constantly seeks to learn and improve by asking questions and seeking knowledge from those around him. The conversation also touches on the transition from running away from fear and anxiety to running toward success and fulfillment About Lynden Lynden Renwick has been every kind of attorney there is. He has practiced as a cross-border corporate attorney for one of the top three AmLaw 100 law firms, a commercial litigator, and General Counsel for a U.S. Defense Contractor. An attorney in both the United States and Australia, Lynden now leads Out-House Attorneys, LLC. to provide overflow support to the in-house teams of some of the largest companies in the world. https://www.linkedin.com/in/lyndenrenwick/ https://www.outhouseattorneys.com/
Join host Patrick Patino as he engages in a thought-provoking conversation with Jordana Confino, a thought leader in the field of positive psychology and its application in the legal profession. In this episode, they explore the power of self-compassion, breaking free from perfectionism, and redefining success in the legal world. Jordana shares her personal journey from overachieving law student to a Big Law attorney and eventually finding her true calling in positive psychology. She emphasizes the importance of taking both external and internal positive risks to create a fulfilling career and personal life. Jordana and Patrick discuss actionable micro-practices to fuel self-compassion, such as: Noticing and acknowledging your inner critic. Micro-moments of connection throughout the day. Gratitude practice to rewire the brain away from negativity bias. Embracing mindfulness to develop self-awareness and self-compassion. In a world where external pressures and demands on lawyers are relentless, Jordana's insights offer a practical and refreshing approach to navigate the legal profession. Whether you decide to stay in the legal field or explore other paths, the principles of self-compassion and self-love are universally applicable. By applying these principles, lawyers can effectively reframe their mindsets, handle external pressures, and thrive in their careers, ultimately becoming newfangled lawyers who play to win with love, purpose, and resilience. Discover how embracing positive change, recognizing your true values, and practicing self-compassion can lead to a healthier, happier, and more successful life as a lawyer. Whether you're a seasoned legal professional or just starting your law career, this episode offers valuable insights to help you thrive in the demanding legal landscape. About Jordana Jordana Confino is a certified professional coach, lawyer, and Positive Lawyering professor dedicated to helping lawyers and other high-achieving professionals achieve greater satisfaction and success in their lives and work. Seven years after graduating from Yale Law School, Jordana founded JC Coaching & Consulting to advance the well-being of the legal profession and empower lawyers and other professionals to transform their lives and work for the better. Having spent the bulk of her career working as a lawyer and in legal education at elite institutions, Jordana knows that many high-achieving, successful people hold limiting beliefs that prevent them from truly flourishing. For many years, she was one of them. Jordana transformed her life leveraging the science of positive psychology and human motivation theory, and she is passionate about helping others do the same. Jordana holds a J.D. from Yale Law School, a B.A. in Psychology from Yale University, and Certifications in Coaching and Applied Positive Psychology. In her blog, Chronicles of a Recovering Type A+ Perfectionist, Jordana shares stories and offers science-backed tips and strategies for reining in fear and cultivating joy, love, and values-based living in our crazy cut-throat world. jordanaconfino.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordanaconfino/jordanaconfino.com
In the 14th episode of The Newfangled Lawyer Podcast, host Patrick Patrick is joined by the brilliant and insightful Heidi Brown. They delve into a wide range of topics, from introversion as a superpower to the importance of self-discovery. Heidi shares her journey of self-realization, identifying her four key "well-being pillars" that have shaped her life. She opens up about her experiences as a writer, a recovering lawyer, a passionate traveler, and a boxer. Heidi's journey from the legal world to academia and her love for solo travel provide listeners with a unique perspective on personal growth and self-discovery. Heidi and Patrick also discuss the idea of taking healthy risks and how embracing your individuality is crucial in the legal profession. Heidi's "introverted rebel" mindset challenges the traditional norms of what it means to be an attorney, encouraging a more balanced and holistic approach to well-being. Join us as we explore Heidi's fascinating insights, her love for U2, her journey through self-discovery, and her unique perspective on the legal profession. You won't want to miss this episode of the Newfangled Lawyer Podcast! About Heidi: Professor Heidi K. Brown is a graduate of the University of Virginia School of Law, Associate Dean for Upper-Level Writing at New York Law School, and a former litigator in the construction industry. Heidi is the author of three books about well-being for law students and lawyers: The Introverted Lawyer, Untangling Fear in Lawyering, and The Flourishing Lawyer: A Multi-Dimensional Approach to Performance and Well-Being. She is also the author of a two-volume legal writing book series entitled The Mindful Legal Writer. In 2021, Heidi earned a master's degree in Applied Positive Psychology from the University of Pennsylvania. She is the 2023 Award Recipient for “outstanding contributions to well-being in legal education” from the Association of American Law Schools' Section on Balance and Well-Being in Legal Education, and was selected as a 2023-2024 SCRIBES Fellow by the American Society of Legal Writers. Building on a foundation of thirty years of experience in legal practice and academia, Heidi champions the importance of openly discussing stressors, anxieties, and fears in lawyering, and helping quiet and anxious law students and lawyers tap into individual strengths to become profoundly effective advocates—in their authentic voices. She is an internationally-recognized public speaker on issues of lawyer identity, writer identity, peak performance, and flourishing. Heidi resides in New York City. She loves writing books, traveling solo internationally, taking boxing lessons, and jumping up-and-down at U2 concerts around the world. Website: www.TheFlourishingLawyer.org. Twitter: @introvertlawyer Instagram: @introvertedlawyer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/theintrovertedlawyerbook
In this episode of The Newfangled Lawyer Podcast, host Patrick Patino chats with guest Patty Beck, an attorney turned attorney well-being coach, consultant, and advocate. They explore well-being, authenticity, and career pivots in the legal profession. Patty shares her journey, from Big Law to well-being advocacy, highlighting the importance of introspection, happiness, and genuine connections. Her experiences should resonate with attorneys navigating the challenges of their profession, and she encourages authenticity, passion pursuit, and adaptation. Join us for an enlightening discussion on redefining legal careers and finding fulfillment. About Patty I'm Patty Beck, and as President & Owner of A Balanced Practice, my goal is to teach lawyers, judges, and legal professionals how to infuse well-being into their personal and professional lives. I offer programming focused on how little things like practicing mindfulness, self-compassion, and setting boundaries with clients and colleagues can help manage stress, promote career satisfaction, and enhance compliance with the ethics rules. I also offer wellness retreats focused on developing workplace relationships and will be launching my coaching practice during the fall of 2023. https://www.linkedin.com/in/patty-beck-8418a988/ https://abalancedpracticellc.com/
In the 12th episode of "The Newfangled Lawyer Podcast," host Patrick Patino engages in a conversation with Hallie Ritzu, who refuses to confine herself to a single identity. This enlightening episode delves deeply into Hallie's unique journey, perspectives, and experiences, providing listeners with a multifaceted look into her life, career, and diverse interests. Hallie Ritzu shares her insights and experiences from running her own law firm, where she brings creativity and innovation to the forefront of her legal practice. Listeners are treated to a glimpse of Hallie's resilience and willingness to explore new opportunities, including her decision to leave a large law firm and venture into entrepreneurship, teaching, and her love for reading. What sets this episode apart is Hallie's candid acknowledgment that being an attorney does not define her entire identity or calling. Instead, she embraces the idea that the legal profession offers a multitude of possibilities, allowing legal professionals to explore diverse interests and paths. Her story serves as a compelling testament to the richness and fulfillment that can be found within the legal world when one embraces their multifaceted nature. Whether you're an attorney seeking inspiration, a legal professional curious about new perspectives, or simply someone intrigued by the legal field, this thought-provoking discussion is sure to provide valuable insights and inspiration. Join Patrick and Hallie as they explore the depths of the legal profession and discover how to fully embrace the multitudes within it. About Hallie Hallie Ritzu is an attorney and the founder of Olive Avenue LLC, an estate planning law firm based in Chicago, Illinois. Hallie is also the co-host of Personal Jurisdiction, a podcast featuring conversations with lawyers about their journeys before, during, and after law school. She's a graduate of Northwestern University Pritzker School of Law, Middlebury College, and the College of Charleston. https://www.linkedin.com/in/hallieritzu/ https://www.oliveavenue.law
In the 11th episode of The Newfangled Lawyer Podcast, host Patrick Patino engages in a conversation with Aliza Shatzman, President of the Legal Accountability Project. Aliza shares her inspiring journey from law school to a horrible clerkship experience that ignited her passion for changing the legal profession. They discuss the urgent need for transparency and reform in clerkships, revealing shocking realities and the culture of silence that surrounds law clerk mistreatment. Join this thought-provoking discussion about the legal profession, authenticity, and the call for justice. Explore what it means to be a "newfangled lawyer" as they challenge norms and pave the way for a brighter legal future. About Aliza: Aliza Shatzman is the President and Founder of The Legal Accountability Project, a nonprofit aimed at ensuring that law clerks have positive clerkship experiences, while extending support and resources to those who do not. Aliza earned her BA from Williams College and her JD from Washington University School of Law. After law school, Aliza clerked in D.C. Superior Court during the 2019-2020 term. In March 2022, Aliza submitted written testimony for a House Judiciary subcommittee hearing about the lack of workplace protections in the federal judiciary, detailing her personal experience with gender discrimination, harassment, and retaliation by a former D.C. judge, in order to advocate for the Judiciary Accountability Act, legislation that would extend Title VII protections to judiciary employees, including law clerks. Aliza now writes and speaks regularly about judicial accountability, clerkships, and diversity in the courts. She has been published in numerous law journals and mainstream publications. https://www.linkedin.com/in/aliza-shatzman-58b55223/ https://www.legalaccountabilityproject.org/
In this episode, host Patrick Patino and guest Angela Lennon, a partner at Koenig Dunne PC LLO and creator of untieonline.com, dive deep into the world of intentional lawyering and the pursuit of fulfillment within the legal profession. They explore the myriad challenges that lawyers often encounter, including the delicate balance between client demands and personal well-being, and the crucial need for establishing boundaries in a demanding field. Angela shares her invaluable insights on crafting a legal practice that harmonizes with your values and life vision. She underscores the significance of intentionality in making career choices and emphasizes the importance of setting clear goals and boundaries to maintain a healthy and fulfilling legal career. They also explores the evolving landscape of law firms, drawing inspiration from client care models adopted by other industries. Angela and Patrick unravel the notion of redefining success in the legal field and discuss what it means to be a "newfangled lawyer," forging your unique path in the legal world. Whether you're a lawyer seeking to discover meaning and balance in your profession or someone keen on understanding the changing contours of the legal landscape, this episode is a must-listen. Join Patrick and Angela as they share their wisdom, experiences, and fresh perspectives on navigating the 21st-century legal profession. Tune in to Episode 10 of the Newfangled Lawyer Podcast for an enlightening conversation that challenges conventional notions of lawyering and inspires you to embark on a fulfilling legal journey infused with intentionality and purpose. About Angela: Angela is a divorce attorney and Partner at Koenig|Dunne, Omaha's premier divorce law firm. She focuses her practice on divorcing differently through the collaborative law process. She is also the founder of Untie Online, an online limited scope divorce service. Untie Online is the first online divorce service offered by local Nebraska attorneys. https://www.linkedin.com/in/angela-lennon-a1417857/ www.koenigdunne.com
Welcome to the 9th episode of the Newfangled Lawyer Podcast, where host Patrick Patino engages in a refreshing conversation with Thomas Horgan, an attorney in Omaha, Nebraska. They share a common desire to bring a fresh perspective to the legal profession, challenging traditional norms. Discover how Tom transitioned from the fast-paced legal world in New York City to find his place in Omaha, emphasizing the importance of individuality, authenticity, and trust in the legal community. They discuss setting boundaries, the power of saying "no," and the liberating impact of embracing one's unique identity as an attorney. Whether you're a seasoned legal pro or just starting, this episode offers valuable insights into a more fulfilling and innovative legal career. Join us for this engaging conversation that challenges conventional norms and inspires change in the legal profession. About Tom: He practices at all levels of state and federal courts with a highly-diversified portfolio of clients. After attending Villanova University for his bachelor's degree, he attended Creighton University School of Law to obtain his Juris Doctor degree. He practiced in New York for several years before moving back to his hometown of Omaha, Nebraska. https://www.linkedin.com/in/thomas-horgan/ https://orrhorgan.com/