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A judge in Plymouth, Massachusetts spent Thursday afternoon reading twelve adults the definition of a word.Not the evidence. Not the eighty-odd witnesses. A definition. Reasonable doubt. Because a note came out of that jury room saying one person in there will not take it.Disagreeing with eleven people is allowed. That's the job. Refusing the standard itself is something else, and it's about to blow up five weeks of trial. Six days of deliberation. Thirty-six and a half hours. Split eleven to one. Judge Sullivan has already spent the dynamite charge, and under Massachusetts law he can't use it again without the jury's permission. Kevin Reddington stood up in open court and asked him to throw the holdout off the panel. Sullivan said no. They're back Friday morning. This episode: what actually happened in that courtroom Thursday, why courts almost never remove a holdout juror and why you should be glad they don't, and what a mistrial would actually mean for this case.Plus the number nobody in the discourse wants to look at. For three weeks the argument was that a jury of nine women and three men would split along sex. That prediction needed nine to three. It got eleven to one, and there is no way to reach eleven from a pool of nine women without bringing men along. And there is one thing I'm not telling you in this episode, about the identity of the holdout, and the reason why is the most important part of the whole hour.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/we-saw-the-devil-a-true-crime-podcast--4433638/support.Website: http://www.wesawthedevil.comPatreon: http://www.patreon.com/wesawthedevilRobin's Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/robin_wstdTwitter: http://www.twitter.com/WeSawtheDevilInstagram: http://www.instagram.com/wesawthedevilpodcastTikTok: tiktok.com/@wesawthedeviltruecrime
After 36 hours of trying to reach a verdict, the jury in the Lindsay Clancy trial will return on Friday for their seventh day of deliberations. But we just heard from defense attorney Kevin Reddington who told reporters there will first be an inquiry into the juror who reportedly refused to follow the judge’s instructions on reasonable doubt. Reddington hope that inquiry will be in open court, after his motion to remove the juror was denied this afternoon.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
After 36 hours of trying to reach a verdict, the jury in the Lindsay Clancy trial will return on Friday for their seventh day of deliberations. But we just heard from defense attorney Kevin Reddington who told reporters there will first be an inquiry into the juror who reportedly refused to follow the judge’s instructions on reasonable doubt. Reddington hope that inquiry will be in open court, after his motion to remove the juror was denied this afternoon.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
After 36 hours of trying to reach a verdict, the jury in the Lindsay Clancy trial will return on Friday for their seventh day of deliberations. But we just heard from defense attorney Kevin Reddington who told reporters there will first be an inquiry into the juror who reportedly refused to follow the judge’s instructions on reasonable doubt. Reddington hope that inquiry will be in open court, after his motion to remove the juror was denied this afternoon.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
After 36 hours of trying to reach a verdict, the jury in the Lindsay Clancy trial will return on Friday for their seventh day of deliberations. But we just heard from defense attorney Kevin Reddington who told reporters there will first be an inquiry into the juror who reportedly refused to follow the judge’s instructions on reasonable doubt. Reddington hope that inquiry will be in open court, after his motion to remove the juror was denied this afternoon.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders has a formal diagnosis for caffeine withdrawal.It does not have one for postpartum psychosis.That's where this episode starts, and it turns out to explain almost everything about the six weeks that followed. As I record this, the jury in Plymouth has told the judge for the second time in two days that it cannot agree on whether Lindsay Clancy was criminally responsible. Five weeks of trial. More than eighty witnesses. The judge has now read them the Tuey-Rodriguez charge, the last instruction he has, and under Massachusetts law he can't read it again without their consent. Twelve people who saw every exhibit can't get there. The internet got there in nine minutes. This episode is not about whether she's guilty. It's about the machine that spent August turning three dead children into content, and it hits everybody.The women who made this their entire personality: the pink shirts, the "Same, Lindsay" trend, a hundred and sixty-four thousand TikToks, twenty-five Etsy designs, a crowd cheering a defense attorney like he'd walked out of Selma, and a fifty-six-year-old woman arrested in a courthouse parking lot. And the men who decided the correct response to a psychiatric emergency was a constitutional amendment. A retired UFC champion who was calling to repeal the 19th two years before he'd ever heard her name. A podcaster on episode 1,825. A commentator who looked at a stranger holding her own baby and asked where CPS was. Also in here: Why parasocial defendant worship is a format and not a female pathology, and what ten thousand people mailing $290,000 to Luigi Mangione proves about that. The Andrea Yates conviction that got overturned because an expert witness testified about a Law & Order episode that had never been filmed. All 269 episodes were searched. It did not exist. Twenty-five years later, a major podcaster covering this case said out loud that he didn't need his story verified.The nine murder-suicides a week that nobody is holding a rally about, and why there is no federal database counting them. Three fathers who raised the exact defense Clancy is raising. Nobody proposed taking anyone's vote away. And the number that ends the argument: the UK has around 21 psychiatric units where a woman in this emergency is admitted with her baby. France has 15. The United States has four million births a year and zero. Six weeks of the loudest people in America screaming about dead children, and not one of them proposed a bed or a solution. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/we-saw-the-devil-unfiltered-political-analysis--4433638/support.Website: http://www.wesawthedevil.comPatreon: http://www.patreon.com/wesawthedevilRobin's Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/robin_wstdTwitter: http://www.twitter.com/WeSawtheDevilInstagram: http://www.instagram.com/wesawthedevilpodcast.TikTok: tiktok.com/@wesawthedevilpolitics
Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski | True Crime News & Commentary
ADA Jennifer Sprague argued Lindsay Clancy did not want her life anymore. She was depressed. She was exhausted. She was done. She did not want to try anymore. The prosecution's theory is that Lindsay killed her three children — Cora, Dawson, and Callan — because they were her protective factor. As long as they were alive, she could not kill herself. Removing them was the plan.Criminal defense attorney Bob Motta of Defense Diaries was in the room when Sprague made that argument to a jury of nine mothers and three men. He joins Tony Brueski to assess whether it landed — or whether it sounded like a prosecutor telling a room full of parents that a sick mother resented her own children.The defense painted a different picture. Kevin Reddington argued Lindsay was a labor and delivery nurse who named her daughter Cora after the first baby she ever delivered. She sought treatment from multiple providers. She was prescribed over a dozen psychiatric medications in months. She documented her declining mental state in a journal whose handwriting deteriorated as the medications piled up. Reddington called the prosecution's case repulsive.Bob walks through both arguments from inside the courtroom — how Sprague built the resentment theory, how Reddington dismantled it, and which version the parents on the jury appeared to absorb. He also addresses the question millions of mothers watching this case are asking: where is the line between being overwhelmed and being broken?Listen Anywhere You Get Podcasts: https://pod.link/1655749292Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod?sub_confirmation=1Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#LindsayClancy #PostpartumPsychosis #LindsayClancyTrial #TrueCrime #BobMotta #MaternalMentalHealth #HiddenKillers #MurderTrial #KevinReddington #CriminalJustice
Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski | True Crime News & Commentary
Sprague told the jury Lindsay Clancy left three children on the basement floor with exercise bands around their necks and went upstairs. She called them broken toys because she was done playing the game. Reddington held up a honeymoon wish jar and thirteen medications and called the prosecution the thing that ripped the soul out of a woman who never did anything wrong.Retired FBI Special Agent Jennifer Coffindaffer joins Tony Brueski for a three-part interview as the jury deliberates. They disagree on this case and cover how the prosecution landed, how the defense landed, and what could happen next.The prosecution's own expert Kirk Heilbrun called the killings out of love. Defense expert Phillip Resnick called Clancy a puppet. The voice she described appeared once, lasted roughly eighteen minutes, and stopped the moment the children were dead. The prosecution's expert Gregory Saathoff called that pattern clinically unusual.Nine women and three men have five verdict options — first-degree murder, second-degree, manslaughter, not criminally responsible, or not guilty. Three and a half hours on day one with no verdict.Patrick Clancy's wrongful death lawsuit against the providers is already filed.Listen Anywhere You Get Podcasts: https://pod.link/1655749292Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod?sub_confirmation=1Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#LindsayClancy #LindsayClancyTrial #HiddenKillers #JenniferCoffindaffer #TrueCrime #PostpartumPsychosis #VerdictWatch #ClosingArguments #JuryDeliberations #MaternalMentalHealth
Stephanie is back after a week off, and Lauren DeGregorio of O'playsis in Buzzards Bay pulls up a chair for grant season, chaos gardening, and the question nobody has a good answer to: where do you actually meet people in your 40s?IN THIS EPISODEComing back from a week away and the guilt of feeling like you missed everythingO'playsis explained: a collaborative art studio and music lounge on Main Street in Buzzards Bay, where play has no age limit, plus Reddington the resident snakeShoulder squirrels, Shelby's souvenir magnets for the business owner brainLive show nerves, the aunt who thought everyone could see her, and why the answer is to do it scaredFootball mom season: front page bruises, the ER visit, and the last-season cryCanal Farmers Market wrap and the food truck family that showed up every single weekChaos gardening: pumpkins volunteering out of the compost pile and tomatoes reseeding themselvesPen and paper people versus the brand new Kindle that has never been openedBourne Youth Council lands back to back $5,000 grants and moves the Witches Walk onto Main StreetQuestion of the day: the best way to meet people in your 40sWallet Hub's 2026 Money and Relationships Survey, where 26 percent are hiding an account and 75 percent say money fights beat political onesBrunch bingo, the bingo cards that ran out 30 minutes before start, and the art of the pivotArmy Family Day back on base with Sergeant Major Asia, 42 tents and a dunk tank for the commandersHaunted Hallows Mashpee: volunteers wanted, 39 days to openingThe celebrity death rule of three and why our brains insist on itPEOPLE AND BUSINESSES MENTIONEDLauren DeGregorio and O'playsis (oplaysis.com), Bourne Youth Council (bourneyouthcouncil.com), Jen Christian of Ask Jen and Carseat Mama, Brooke MacKay, Kono Pizza Cape Cod, Adobo, Bourne to Cater, Shady's, Kind Hearts for Kids, Sharing Kindness, Magic Mirror, Morrissey Manor, the Mashpee Improvement Fund, Mashpee TV, the Mashpee Chamber of Commerce, the Mashpee EDIC, Mass Cultural Council, Bourne Community Engagement Council, SCORE, Allison Reed (Sam and Frank), Indie Art by the Sea, Seaside Le Mans.MARK YOUR CALENDARMon Sept 7: SCORE segment with Mark on small business accountabilitySat Sept 12: Seaside Le Mans, Mashpee CommonsSun Sept 13: Kindness Walk, Candyland theme, foam machine at the finish lineSun Oct 4: Kindness Festival. Nonprofit info booths, youth vendor tables and the Kids Zone are all freeFour weekends in October: Haunted Hallows Mashpee. Tickets at hauntedhallowsmashpee.comGreat Gables Witches Walk, moving to Main Street with a parade, a live band and a scavenger huntQUOTABLE"It's scary stuff when you haven't done it. So just do it scared." (Lauren)"You are the sum of the people you surround yourself with. So what kind of people do I want to be surrounding myself with in this season of my days?""I was like, neglect, neglect, neglect. This is how we get these grown.""You have to be okay during lean months, and you have to be normal during flush months so that you can get through the lean months."HELP WANTEDHaunted Hallows and the Kindness Festival both need hands. Actors, candy apple sellers, Kids Zone table hosts, vendors and nonprofit booths. Reach out through the show.Stephanie in the Morning. Every morning we ask and you answer, where locals take the mic. Powered by Lemonadio.=================================================
The Lindsay Clancy trial remains deadlocked as jurors once again fail to reach a verdict—and the circus surrounding the courthouse may be getting even stranger. From Clancy attorney Kevin Reddington's growing fan club to street interviews and one man's blunt assessment of the case, we break down the latest developments. Then Scott Bessent takes aim at Canada amid the ongoing trade fight before President Trump faces questions about Iran and delivers a memorable response to a reporter asking about nuclear weapons. Tucker Carlson's latest criticism of Trump also enters the conversation. Plus, the battle over America's massive data-center expansion is becoming a major political issue. JD Vance defends the buildout while AOC, MTG and Abdul El-Sayed push back, John Fetterman breaks with Democrats, and concerns over water and energy use take center stage. Later, JD Vance fires back at Abdul El-Sayed over comments involving his wife, Mallory McMorrow addresses an awkward press-conference freeze-up, and the immigration debate heats up with illegal-voting allegations, California voter registration concerns, CDL fraud and election-fraud charges.Check out HealthyCell Immune Super Boost to support your immune system in one gel pack! Visit https://HealthyCell.com/CHICKS code CHICKS20 to save 20% on your first purchase.Get your summer glow-up with a skincare upgrade from Bon Charge. Visit https://BonCharge.com/chicks and use code CHICKS for 15% off sitewide.Subscribe and stay tuned for new episodes every weekday!Follow us here for more daily clips, updates, and commentary:YoutubeFacebookInstagramTikTokXLocalsMore InfoWebsite
Lindsay Clancy told evaluators a male voice appeared for the first time on the afternoon of January 24, 2023. The voice told her this was her last chance — kill the children and then herself. It lasted roughly eighteen minutes. It stopped the moment the children were dead. She has not reported hearing it since.The prosecution's own expert Gregory Saathoff called that pattern unusual. Command hallucinations do not typically appear once and vanish. Defense experts Paul Zeizel and Phillip Resnick both testified the voice was consistent with postpartum psychosis. Resnick called Clancy a puppet and categorized the killings as altruistic filicide — killing out of a belief she was protecting her children from suffering without her.Retired FBI Special Agent Jennifer Coffindaffer joins Tony Brueski as the jury deliberates in Plymouth Superior Court. They disagree on this case and dig into what the defense actually proved — and whether a jury of nine women and three men can convict after hearing it.Reddington blamed the medications and the doctors. Sprague blamed the woman who made a choice. The jury is deciding which version they believe.Listen Anywhere You Get Podcasts: https://pod.link/1655749292Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod?sub_confirmation=1Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#LindsayClancy #LindsayClancyTrial #TrueCrimeToday #JenniferCoffindaffer #TrueCrime #PostpartumPsychosis #VerdictWatch #CommandHallucination #MurderTrial #JuryDeliberations
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A male voice appeared on the afternoon of January 24, 2023 — the first time Lindsay Clancy had ever heard it. The voice told her this was her last chance. She had to kill her children and then kill herself. It lasted roughly eighteen minutes and stopped the moment the children were dead.The prosecution's expert called the pattern unusual. Defense experts Paul Zeizel and Phillip Resnick both diagnosed bipolar disorder with postpartum psychosis and testified Clancy had no appreciation for the wrongfulness of what she did. Resnick called her a puppet. He is the same expert who testified for Andrea Yates.Retired FBI Special Agent Jennifer Coffindaffer joins Tony Brueski as the jury deliberates. They disagree on this case and dig into whether the defense's evidence — the voice, the medication history, the journal entries, the chaplain's testimony — actually blocked the prosecution from proving criminal responsibility.Reddington held up a wish jar from the Clancy honeymoon filled with handwritten wishes for healthy children. He held up a poster listing thirteen psychiatric medications. He blamed the pills and the doctors who never talked to each other.The jury — nine women, three men — has five verdict options on those slips.Listen Anywhere You Get Podcasts: https://pod.link/1655749292Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod?sub_confirmation=1Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#LindsayClancy #LindsayClancyTrial #HiddenKillers #JenniferCoffindaffer #TrueCrime #PostpartumPsychosis #VerdictWatch #CommandHallucination #DefenseCase #JuryDeliberations
Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski | True Crime News & Commentary
Nine women and three men are deliberating Lindsay Clancy's fate. They sat for three and a half hours on day one at Plymouth Superior Court and came back with no verdict. Five options are on those slips: first-degree murder, second-degree, manslaughter, not criminally responsible, or not guilty.First-degree means life without parole. Not criminally responsible means a psychiatric facility — not freedom. Andrea Yates got that verdict twenty years ago and is still locked up. The judge added manslaughter at the defense's request, and Reddington's team called it a positive development.Retired FBI Special Agent Jennifer Coffindaffer joins Tony Brueski as the jury works. They disagree on this case and dig into what could happen — whether jury composition decides the outcome, whether manslaughter becomes the compromise, and what it means if the jury can't agree.Patrick Clancy has already filed a wrongful death lawsuit against Lindsay's providers. If the doctors who prescribed thirteen medications without coordinating care end up liable for the same deaths the state is prosecuting, the two outcomes collide.Every mother watching this case is watching those nine women.Listen Anywhere You Get Podcasts: https://pod.link/1655749292Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod?sub_confirmation=1Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#LindsayClancy #LindsayClancyTrial #HiddenKillers #JenniferCoffindaffer #TrueCrime #PostpartumPsychosis #VerdictWatch #JuryDeliberations #NineWomen #MaternalMentalHealth
Lindsay Clancy described a male voice that appeared for the first time on the afternoon of January 24, 2023. The voice commanded her to kill her children and then kill herself. It lasted roughly eighteen minutes. It stopped the moment the children were dead. She has never reported hearing it again.The prosecution's forensic psychiatrist Gregory Saathoff called that onset-and-vanish pattern clinically unusual. Defense experts Paul Zeizel and Phillip Resnick both testified the voice was consistent with postpartum psychosis. Resnick said Clancy was a puppet controlled by an external force and that she genuinely believed killing the children was protecting them.Retired FBI Special Agent Jennifer Coffindaffer joins Tony Brueski live as the jury deliberates. They disagree on this case and dig into the defense's evidence — the voice, the thirteen medications, the journal entries, the chaplain who testified Clancy said she was glad her children were safe.Reddington's closing attacked the medications, the providers who never coordinated care, and the prosecution for building a case against a woman whose brain was under chemical siege.Nine women and three men are deliberating. Five verdict options sit on those slips.Listen Anywhere You Get Podcasts: https://pod.link/1655749292Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod?sub_confirmation=1Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#LindsayClancy #LindsayClancyTrial #HiddenKillers #JenniferCoffindaffer #TrueCrime #PostpartumPsychosis #VerdictWatch #CommandHallucination #HKLive #JuryDeliberations
Three days. Seventeen hours. Twelve jurors, five possible verdicts, and a door nobody can see behind.Day three of deliberations in the Lindsay Clancy trial ended Monday afternoon with no verdict and instructions to come back Tuesday. Robin breaks down where the case actually stands...the criminal responsibility standard, what "not guilty" would really mean here, and why the jury's request for the pill bottles and the knife tells you they're doing the work.Then the sidewalk: the pink shirts, the twenty-five-plus Etsy designs, the defense attorney fan merchandise, the free coffee at a verdict watch, and the fact that somebody bought the Duxbury house.Plus a viral post arguing that a not-guilty verdict from a nine-woman jury is grounds for repealing the Nineteenth Amendment, and the math problem that argument doesn't survive.And in Philadelphia in the House of Horrors case...fifty hard drives, five urns, four missing women, no bodies, and what investigators say they found on one of those drives this week, which is something Western media very much claims doesn't exist as a theory. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/we-saw-the-devil-unfiltered-political-analysis--4433638/support.Website: http://www.wesawthedevil.comPatreon: http://www.patreon.com/wesawthedevilRobin's Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/robin_wstdTwitter: http://www.twitter.com/WeSawtheDevilInstagram: http://www.instagram.com/wesawthedevilpodcast.TikTok: tiktok.com/@wesawthedevilpolitics
The defense in Lindsay Clancy's murder trial argued that her medical providers prescribed medication after medication without talking to each other. Kevin Reddington showed the jury her journal entries from December 2022 — the handwriting falling apart, the mind deteriorating a month before the killings.Criminal defense trial attorney Bob Motta was in the courtroom. He joins Tony Brueski to evaluate whether the defense proved overmedication caused a psychotic break — and whether the Resnick testimony carried the weight Reddington needed.END LINKSListen Anywhere You Get Podcasts: https://pod.link/1655749292Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod?sub_confirmation=1Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpodDISCLAIMERThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#LindsayClancy #KevinReddington #InsanityDefense #TrueCrime #PostpartumPsychosis #LindsayClancyTrial #BobMotta #HiddenKillers #CriminalDefense #MurderTrial
On Friday morning, twelve people in Plymouth, Massachusetts asked to see two things: a bag of prescription pill bottles and the knife Lindsay Clancy used on herself. That request is the entire factual content of the biggest news day in this trial since closing arguments, and within hours it had been publicly interpreted as a conviction, an acquittal, a hung jury, and a verdict coming Monday before lunch.This episode walks Friday minute by minute, then does the thing this show exists to do: separates what happened from what people needed it to mean.Also covered: the prosecution's rebuttal psychiatrist, Dr. Avram Mack, resigned from Nemours Children's Health on the same day he finished testifying, and Nemours will not say why. What that fact does and does not establish. The full evidentiary record the jury is working through, including why the central dispute is not whether Clancy was mentally ill. The five verdict options and what an insanity finding actually means in Massachusetts, which is not what the internet says it means. The sidewalk outside the courthouse, where pink t-shirts and handwritten signs reading "1st Degree MURDER" sat on benches thirty feet apart.And a Reality Check on why women are responding to this case the way they are, built on a fact most of the coverage has missed entirely: postpartum psychosis, the condition at the center of this five week trial, is not in the DSM.Recorded Sunday afternoon. The jury returns Monday at 9 a.m. Eastern. Nothing in this episode assumes a verdict.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/we-saw-the-devil-unfiltered-political-analysis--4433638/support.Website: http://www.wesawthedevil.comPatreon: http://www.patreon.com/wesawthedevilRobin's Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/robin_wstdTwitter: http://www.twitter.com/WeSawtheDevilInstagram: http://www.instagram.com/wesawthedevilpodcast.TikTok: tiktok.com/@wesawthedevilpolitics
The Lindsay Clancy jury has three options and none of them sends her home. Guilty of first-degree murder means life without parole. Guilty of second-degree means life with eventual parole eligibility. Not guilty by reason of lack of criminal responsibility means commitment to a psychiatric facility with no time limit. Each path has a legal fight attached to it that outlasts the verdict.Eric Faddis, a defense attorney and former prosecutor, walks through all three outcomes and the deliberation that precedes them. In Massachusetts, the prosecution carries the burden of proving criminal responsibility beyond a reasonable doubt. The two-prong McHoul test requires the Commonwealth to prove Clancy could appreciate the wrongfulness of her actions and could conform her conduct to the law. Both must be met. The prosecution's rebuttal psychiatrist told this jury Clancy had a severe depressive episode but would not call it psychosis. The legal test does not require that label.On the not-guilty path, commitment under MGL Chapter 123 allows indefinite hospitalization. Andrea Yates was found not guilty by reason of insanity twenty years ago and remains in a state psychiatric facility. She declines her annual release hearing every year. Reddington's role as Clancy's attorney continues through the periodic review process.On the guilty path, the SJC automatically reviews the conviction. The trial record includes the mental health testimony the jury rejected. Clancy would also transfer from Tewksbury Hospital to the corrections system — paralyzed and on 24-hour suicide watch, entering a facility not designed for her level of need.If the jury cannot agree, the judge can issue a Tuey-Rodriguez charge. If it fails, the result is a mistrial and the case starts over.Listen Anywhere You Get Podcasts: https://pod.link/1655749292Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod?sub_confirmation=1Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#LindsayClancy #LindsayClancyTrial #HiddenKillers #JuryVerdict #CriminalResponsibility #InsanityDefense #PostpartumPsychosis #MassachusettsLaw #TrueCrimePodcast #TrueCrime
Three verdicts. Three completely different futures. Lindsay Clancy's jury begins deliberations after closing arguments Thursday, and the outcome determines whether she spends the rest of her life in a prison, a psychiatric hospital, or back in a courtroom for a second trial.Eric Faddis sits down to walk through every scenario. He covers the jury room first — the Massachusetts legal standard that puts the burden on the prosecution, the two-prong test for criminal responsibility, and why the prosecution's own expert acknowledging severe mental illness matters under a standard that says mental disease or defect without requiring a specific diagnosis.If the jury acquits, Clancy enters a commitment process with no end date. Under Massachusetts law, the state can petition for involuntary commitment after 40 days of observation. Andrea Yates has been in a state hospital for twenty years after a similar verdict. Periodic review hearings require the state to prove Clancy remains mentally ill and dangerous. Reddington continues to represent her through those hearings.If the jury convicts on first-degree murder, the sentence is mandatory life without parole. Clancy transfers from Tewksbury Hospital to the corrections system — a paralyzed woman on 24-hour suicide watch moving from a treatment facility to a prison. The conviction goes to the SJC on automatic appeal with the full trial record, including the rejected mental health evidence.If the jury deadlocks, a mistrial is declared. The Karen Read jury deliberated 23 hours across five days and could not reach agreement even after Tuey-Rodriguez instructions.Faddis covers the mechanics of each outcome and what the legal fight looks like for Reddington after every possible verdict.Listen Anywhere You Get Podcasts: https://pod.link/1655749292Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod?sub_confirmation=1Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#LindsayClancy #LindsayClancyTrial #HiddenKillers #JuryDeliberation #NotGuiltyInsanity #LifeWithoutParole #PostpartumPsychosis #CriminalAppeal #TrueCrimePodcast #TrueCrime
We continue to be on verdict watch as 9 women and 3 men continue a second day of deliberations, with no verdict as of yet. Earlier today, Lindsay Clancy’s defense attorney, Kevin Reddington, told reporters the jurors asked to see the bag of empty pill bottles found in Clancy’s nightstand, as well as the bloody knife she used in her suicide attempt. Reddington also let the press know how Clancy was holding up, as the rest of us wait to hear word from the jury.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
We continue to be on verdict watch as 9 women and 3 men continue a second day of deliberations, with no verdict as of yet. Earlier today, Lindsay Clancy’s defense attorney, Kevin Reddington, told reporters the jurors asked to see the bag of empty pill bottles found in Clancy’s nightstand, as well as the bloody knife she used in her suicide attempt. Reddington also let the press know how Clancy was holding up, as the rest of us wait to hear word from the jury.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
We continue to be on verdict watch as 9 women and 3 men continue a second day of deliberations, with no verdict as of yet. Earlier today, Lindsay Clancy’s defense attorney, Kevin Reddington, told reporters the jurors asked to see the bag of empty pill bottles found in Clancy’s nightstand, as well as the bloody knife she used in her suicide attempt. Reddington also let the press know how Clancy was holding up, as the rest of us wait to hear word from the jury.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Everyone following the Lindsay Clancy trial wants to know what happens if the jury says she is not criminally responsible. The answer is not what most people expect. She does not go home. She enters a commitment system that can hold her for the rest of her life.Eric Faddis, a defense attorney and former prosecutor, breaks down the path. After a not-guilty-by-reason-of-lack-of-criminal-responsibility verdict, Massachusetts law allows the court to order Clancy hospitalized for observation and evaluation for up to 40 days. The district attorney or hospital superintendent can then petition for involuntary commitment under MGL Chapter 123. The commitment has no time limit. Release requires showing she is no longer mentally ill or dangerous — and that burden falls on the person seeking release.At periodic review hearings, the state must demonstrate that Clancy still meets the standard for continued commitment. The proceedings are adversarial. Reddington would represent Clancy at each one. The state can fight to keep her committed even after a jury rejected their criminal case.Clancy has been at Tewksbury Hospital receiving court-ordered psychiatric treatment since May 2023. She is paralyzed from the waist down and on continuous suicide watch. Inside a commitment facility, treatment is the daily structure — medication management, therapy, psychiatric evaluation. In prison, treatment is available but the institution serves a different purpose.Andrea Yates provides the closest comparison. Found not guilty by reason of insanity in 2006, she remains in a Texas psychiatric hospital twenty years later. She has declined every annual release hearing she is entitled to. Faddis examines whether Clancy's path after an acquittal would look the same.Listen Anywhere You Get Podcasts: https://pod.link/1655749292Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod?sub_confirmation=1Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#LindsayClancy #LindsayClancyTrial #HiddenKillers #PostpartumPsychosis #MentalHealthLaw #NotGuiltyInsanity #AndreaYates #CriminalResponsibility #TrueCrimePodcast #TrueCrime
Reddington showed the jury a small box Lindsay and Patrick Clancy bought on their honeymoon. Over the years they'd filled it with folded slips of paper — wishes for healthy and successful children. Clancy wiped away tears at the defense table as Reddington read them aloud.Reddington also accused prosecutors of calling Clancy's suicide attempt fake. He held up a book titled "Good Moms Have Scary Thoughts" that a provider gave Clancy, and said law enforcement missed pill bottles at the scene that he and Patrick found themselves. He called her a nurse, a wife, and "a darn good mother" who did nothing wrong until the medical system failed her.ADA Sprague's closing took the opposite approach. She conceded Clancy was mentally ill, then argued the killings were "a choice she made." Her strongest point: in December 2022, Clancy told her family about thoughts of harming her children but lied to every doctor who asked. Sprague said that concealment proves she knew those thoughts were wrong. The jury began deliberating August 27 with four verdict options, including manslaughter.Listen Anywhere You Get Podcasts: https://pod.link/1655749292Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod?sub_confirmation=1Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpodDISCLAIMERThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#LindsayClancy #LindsayClancyTrial #HiddenKillers #TrueCrime #PostpartumPsychosis #ClosingArguments #PlymouthSuperiorCourt #InsanityDefense #MaternalMentalHealth #TrueCrimeToday
If this jury convicts Lindsay Clancy of first-degree murder, the sentence writes itself — life in prison, no parole, no discussion. But what that sentence means in practice for a paralyzed woman who has been living in a hospital on suicide watch for over three years is a question nobody in the courtroom addresses at sentencing.Eric Faddis, a defense attorney and former prosecutor, answers it. Clancy would leave Tewksbury Hospital and enter the Massachusetts corrections system. The prison system would have to accommodate her physical condition — paraplegia requiring around-the-clock medical care — while also managing her psychiatric needs. In a treatment facility, the institution is built around care. In prison, care exists within a structure built around confinement. Faddis explains what Reddington can fight for inside that system — placement, conditions, mental health access — and how long the attorney-client relationship extends after a life sentence.Every first-degree murder conviction in Massachusetts is automatically appealed to the Supreme Judicial Court. Reddington does not need to file — the case goes up by operation of law. The SJC reviews the trial record, which includes the psychiatric testimony from both sides, the medical records, and the jury instructions on criminal responsibility. Faddis walks through what that review examines and whether the mental health evidence the jury rejected can come back in a different form.This jury can also convict on second-degree murder — life with parole eligibility. How twelve people reach that conclusion on facts where the killing is undisputed comes down to how much weight they give the mental health evidence without fully buying the insanity defense.Two exits exist from a first-degree sentence — appeal and commutation. Both are steep roads.Listen Anywhere You Get Podcasts: https://pod.link/1655749292Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod?sub_confirmation=1Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#LindsayClancy #LindsayClancyTrial #HiddenKillers #LifeWithoutParole #CriminalAppeal #MassachusettsLaw #PostpartumPsychosis #MentalHealthPrison #TrueCrimePodcast #TrueCrime
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Lindsay Clancy has been at Tewksbury Hospital for over three years. She is paralyzed from the waist down. She has been on 24-hour suicide watch since January 2023. If this jury convicts her of first-degree murder, she leaves that facility and enters the Massachusetts corrections system. The sentence is mandatory — life without parole.Eric Faddis breaks down what that transition looks like. The prison system must accommodate Clancy's physical condition — around-the-clock medical care for a paraplegic inmate — on top of her psychiatric needs. In a treatment facility, she is a patient. In prison, she is an inmate who happens to need care. The institutional mission changes, and with it the daily structure, the staffing, and the access to mental health treatment.Faddis covers what Reddington can do for Clancy once she is inside the system. Advocacy for an incarcerated client includes fighting for placement, conditions of confinement, medical care, and mental health treatment access. The attorney-client relationship does not end with the verdict.Every first-degree murder conviction in Massachusetts triggers an automatic appeal to the Supreme Judicial Court. The trial record — including all of the mental health testimony the jury heard — goes up for review. Faddis explains what the SJC looks for and whether the rejected insanity defense evidence has any life on appeal.The verdict slip gives this jury a second option. Second-degree murder carries a life sentence with parole eligibility after 15 years. How a jury reaches that verdict when the act itself is undisputed depends on how they weigh the mental health evidence without fully accepting the insanity defense.First-degree life without parole has two exits — commutation by the governor or a successful appeal. Both are rare.Listen Anywhere You Get Podcasts: https://pod.link/1655749292Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod?sub_confirmation=1Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#LindsayClancy #LindsayClancyTrial #HiddenKillers #FirstDegreeMurder #LifeSentence #CriminalAppeal #PostpartumPsychosis #PrisonSystem #TrueCrimePodcast #TrueCrime
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Reddington held up a list of Lindsay Clancy's prescriptions and started reading. Lorazepam. Sertraline. Hydroxyzine. Lorazepam again. Buspirone. More lorazepam. Trazodone. "It goes on and on and on and on and on." She took them as she was told, Reddington said. The system gave her medication after medication and still couldn't catch what was happening.He called her a "darn good mother," held up a honeymoon wish jar filled with hopes for healthy children, and showed photos of Clancy smiling with her son Dawson. "They would have you think she killed him first, cruelly because she didn't like him," Reddington told the jury. "That is repulsive."The prosecution answered with a closing that conceded mental illness and reframed the case around a single question: did Clancy know right from wrong? ADA Sprague pointed to thoughts Clancy hid from every medical provider in December 2022 while disclosing them to her family — and called that concealment proof of rational thinking. The jury is now deliberating. Four options on the verdict slip.Listen Anywhere You Get Podcasts: https://pod.link/1655749292Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod?sub_confirmation=1Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#LindsayClancy #LindsayClancyTrial #HiddenKillers #TrueCrime #PostpartumPsychosis #ClosingArguments #PlymouthSuperiorCourt #InsanityDefense #MaternalMentalHealth #TrueCrimeToday
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Not guilty does not mean free. If this jury finds Lindsay Clancy not criminally responsible for the deaths of Cora, Dawson, and Callan, she enters a commitment process governed by Massachusetts General Laws Chapter 123. That process has no end date.Eric Faddis explains the legal mechanics. The court can order Clancy hospitalized for 40 days of observation and evaluation. After that window, the DA or hospital superintendent petitions for involuntary civil commitment. The commitment is reviewed periodically — the state must prove at each hearing that Clancy remains mentally ill and poses a danger. If the state fails to make that case, release is possible. If it succeeds, the commitment continues.Clancy is already at Tewksbury Hospital, where she has received court-ordered treatment since May 2023. She is paralyzed and on 24-hour suicide watch. A commitment facility would provide daily psychiatric care — therapy, medication oversight, structured evaluation. The environment is built around treatment in a way that prison is not.The question the audience keeps asking is whether Reddington still has work to do after an acquittal. Faddis explains why the answer is yes — the commitment hearings require legal representation, the conditions of confinement require advocacy, and the periodic reviews are adversarial proceedings where the state must carry its burden.Andrea Yates has been in a state psychiatric facility for twenty years after a not-guilty-by-reason-of-insanity verdict in the drowning deaths of her five children. She declines her annual release hearing every year. Faddis walks through whether that path is the most realistic comparison for Clancy's case — or whether Massachusetts law creates a different outcome.Listen Anywhere You Get Podcasts: https://pod.link/1655749292Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod?sub_confirmation=1Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#LindsayClancy #LindsayClancyTrial #HiddenKillers #NGRI #PsychiatricCommitment #MentalHealthCourt #PostpartumPsychosis #TrueCrimePodcast #TrueCrime #MassachusettsMurderTrial
A not-guilty verdict in Lindsay Clancy's trial does not result in her walking out of a courthouse. It results in a commitment hearing — and possibly a lifetime inside a psychiatric facility with no statutory release date.Eric Faddis sits down to explain what that path actually looks like. Under Massachusetts law, the court can order 40 days of hospitalization and observation after a finding of not criminally responsible. The district attorney then petitions for civil commitment. The commitment has no time limit. At periodic review hearings, the state must prove Clancy is still mentally ill and dangerous. If the state meets that burden, she stays. If it does not, a judge could order her release.Clancy is already at Tewksbury Hospital. She has been there since May 2023 for court-ordered mental health treatment. She is paralyzed from the waist down and under 24-hour suicide watch. Whether she goes to a psychiatric commitment facility or a prison, her medical and mental health needs remain significant. Faddis explains what the actual difference in care looks like between the two settings.Andrea Yates killed five of her children in Texas in 2001 and was found not guilty by reason of insanity in 2006. She has remained in a psychiatric hospital for two decades, declining an annual hearing that could lead to release. Her attorney has said she will likely never leave.Faddis covers whether the prosecution can continue fighting to keep Clancy committed after a jury rejected their case, what daily life inside a commitment facility looks like, and whether Reddington's legal role continues after the verdict.Listen Anywhere You Get Podcasts: https://pod.link/1655749292Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod?sub_confirmation=1Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#LindsayClancy #LindsayClancyTrial #HiddenKillers #NGRI #PsychiatricCommitment #MentalHealthCourt #PostpartumPsychosis #TrueCrimePodcast #TrueCrime #MassachusettsMurderTrial
We continue to be on verdict watch as 9 women and 3 men continue a second day of deliberations, with no verdict as of yet. Earlier today, Lindsay Clancy’s defense attorney, Kevin Reddington, told reporters the jurors asked to see the bag of empty pill bottles found in Clancy’s nightstand, as well as the bloody knife she used in her suicide attempt. Reddington also let the press know how Clancy was holding up, as the rest of us wait to hear word from the jury.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
For decades, attorney Kevin Reddington has stood beside defendants in some of Massachusetts' most controversial and emotionally charged criminal cases. Now, as he represents Lindsay Clancy, his courtroom strategy has once again placed him in the national spotlight.But what happens when we step away from the headlines and look at the man through his birth chart?In this reading, we explore the astrological patterns surrounding Kevin Reddington—his mind, communication style, intensity, determination, relationship with conflict, and the qualities that may help shape the way he approaches a difficult case.Is there something in his chart that reflects his ability to walk into the courtroom, challenge experts, question authority, and defend people accused of extraordinary crimes?And perhaps most intriguingly: what does his chart reveal about someone who has spent a lifetime standing between the accused and the power of the law?We'll follow the planetary symbolism through his career, his courtroom presence, and the themes of power, justice, confrontation, persuasion, and psychological complexity.This is not about deciding whether he is right or wrong.It is about looking behind the headlines—and asking:What kind of person chooses to become the voice for the accused?What does his birth chart reveal about the man behind the defense?#KevinReddington#KevinReddingtonBirthChart#BirthChartReading#Astrology#AstrologyReading#AstrologyPodcast#AstrologyAndTrueCrime#TrueCrime#TrueCrimePodcast#TrueCrimeCommunity#LindsayClancy#LindsayClancyCase#LindsayClancyTrial#KevinReddington#KevinReddingtonBirthChart#BirthChartReading#Astrology#AstrologyReading#AstrologyPodcast#AstrologyAndTrueCrime#TrueCrime#TrueCrimePodcast#TrueCrimeCommunity#LindsayClancy#LindsayClancyCase#LindsayClancyTrial
As expected, the jury heard a dramatic and powerful closing argument from Lindsay Clancy defense attorney Kevin Reddington. Reporters inside the courtroom described both Clancy and several jurors wiping tears from their eyes as Reddington showed pictures of the once happy family that he said was ripped apart because “of the damn medicine and the lousy medical care that she got." Reddington took nearly the full hour to make his final case to jurors, saying the prosecution has manipulated the evidence, and reiterating that Clancy was a “darn good mother” who had no motive to kill her kids. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
As expected, the jury heard a dramatic and powerful closing argument from Lindsay Clancy defense attorney Kevin Reddington. Reporters inside the courtroom described both Clancy and several jurors wiping tears from their eyes as Reddington showed pictures of the once happy family that he said was ripped apart because “of the damn medicine and the lousy medical care that she got." Reddington took nearly the full hour to make his final case to jurors, saying the prosecution has manipulated the evidence, and reiterating that Clancy was a “darn good mother” who had no motive to kill her kids. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
As expected, the jury heard a dramatic and powerful closing argument from Lindsay Clancy defense attorney Kevin Reddington. Reporters inside the courtroom described both Clancy and several jurors wiping tears from their eyes as Reddington showed pictures of the once happy family that he said was ripped apart because of “of the damn medicine and the lousy medical care that she got." Reddington took nearly the full hour to make his final case to jurors, saying the prosecution has manipulated the evidence, and reiterating that Clancy was a “darn good mother” who had no motive to kill her kids. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Day 21. The last day of evidence in Commonwealth v. Lindsay Clancy.Judge William Sullivan opened with a line from Henry V. Four hours later, defense attorney Kevin Reddington was reading the prosecution's own opening statement out loud to the prosecution's own final witness and asking him if he agreed with it. Dr. Gregory Saathoff, forensic psychiatrist at the University of Virginia and senior psychiatrist for the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit, said the statement minimizes what Lindsay Clancy was going through.That is the state's closer telling a jury the state's theory is too small.He also gave prosecutors the cleanest planning testimony of the trial. Both things happened the same day, from the same witness, under oath.This episode walks Day 21 in chronological order, start to finish.This episode contains discussion of child death, suicide, and psychiatric crisis.If you are struggling: call or text 988 for the Suicide and Crisis Lifeline. For postpartum mood disorders, the National Maternal Mental Health Hotline is free, confidential and available 24/7 at 1-833-TLC-MAMA.We Saw the Devil publishes three times a week.Website and full archive: wesawthedevil.com Patreon: We Saw the Devil Twitter: @wesawthedevil Instagram: @wesawthedevilpodcast TikTok: @wesawthedevilpolitics Facebook: wesawthedevil Robin on Instagram: @robin_wstdBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/we-saw-the-devil-unfiltered-political-analysis--4433638/support.Website: http://www.wesawthedevil.comPatreon: http://www.patreon.com/wesawthedevilRobin's Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/robin_wstdTwitter: http://www.twitter.com/WeSawtheDevilInstagram: http://www.instagram.com/wesawthedevilpodcast.TikTok: tiktok.com/@wesawthedevilpolitics
Kevin Reddington spent an hour on his feet trying to undo weeks of testimony, and he didn't do it quietly. In his closing argument in the murder trial of Lindsay Clancy — the Duxbury, Massachusetts mother accused of strangling her three children, 5-year-old Cora, 3-year-old Dawson, and 7-month-old Callan, with exercise resistance bands inside the family's Summer Street home on January 24, 2023 — Reddington told jurors the prosecution built a version of his client that doesn't exist: cold, controlling, calculating, a woman who supposedly hated the kids she's accused of killing.He didn't stop there. Reddington argued prosecutors even tried to wave off Clancy's own suicide attempt — she allegedly jumped from a second-story window afterward and is now paralyzed from the waist down — as somehow not real, not serious. That's a bold argument to make about someone who broke her spine trying to die.The core of his closing came down to burden of proof. Reddington told the jury the state never showed, beyond a reasonable doubt, that Clancy wasn't in the grip of psychosis when her children died. And he went after the state's own experts by name of function, not credentials — claiming one built a career chasing terrorists, another specialized in juvenile offenders, and a third allegedly mixed up schizophrenia with psychosis. If true, that's not a small gap in expertise.Clancy faces three counts of murder and three counts of strangulation. She's pleaded not guilty, resting her defense on severe postpartum psychosis and psychiatric overmedication. The case is being heard in Plymouth Superior Court, where jurors now carry the weight of deciding whether a mother accused of the unthinkable understood what she was doing — or understood nothing at all.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodDisclaimer This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.Hashtags #LindsayClancy #DuxburyTragedy #PostpartumPsychosis #TrueCrime #PlymouthCounty #CoraDawsonCallan #InsanityDefense #KevinReddington #ClosingArguments #HiddenKillers
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An hour is a long time to spend telling a jury they've been played, but that's what Kevin Reddington did in closing arguments for Lindsay Clancy, the Duxbury, Massachusetts mother charged with strangling her three children — 5-year-old Cora, 3-year-old Dawson, and 7-month-old Callan — with exercise resistance bands inside the family's Summer Street home on January 24, 2023. His pitch to jurors: the prosecution manufactured a heartless, controlling caricature of a woman who was, according to the defense, drowning in psychosis.Reddington took particular aim at how prosecutors framed Clancy's suicide attempt. She allegedly jumped from a second-story window after the killings and is now paralyzed from the waist down — and Reddington argued the state tried to cast even that as manipulation rather than the desperate act it appears to be. That's a hard sell in front of twelve people who've heard the medical details.Then came the expert witnesses, and Reddington didn't hold back. He claimed the state's own experts brought credentials from entirely different worlds — one with a background hunting terrorists, another focused on juvenile offenders, a third who allegedly conflated schizophrenia with psychosis. None of that, he argued, adds up to real expertise on postpartum mental illness. His closing message was simple: reasonable doubt doesn't require jurors to know what happened inside Clancy's mind that day. It just requires the state to have failed to rule out psychosis, and he says they did.Clancy faces three counts of murder and three counts of strangulation, has pleaded not guilty, and is mounting an insanity defense built on severe postpartum psychosis and psychiatric overmedication. The case is in Plymouth Superior Court, and the jury's next move decides everything.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodDisclaimer This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.Hashtags #LindsayClancy #DuxburyTragedy #PostpartumPsychosis #TrueCrime #PlymouthCounty #CoraDawsonCallan #InsanityDefense #KevinReddington #ClosingArguments #TrueCrimeToday
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Judge William Sullivan ruled on August 26 that Lindsay Clancy's jury can consider involuntary manslaughter as a lesser included offense — over the prosecution's objection. The Commonwealth charged Clancy with first-degree murder and fought to keep manslaughter off the verdict slip. Sullivan put it there anyway.The ruling came after the prosecution's final expert gave the Commonwealth the clinical testimony it needed — and then undercut the prosecution's own rhetoric under cross-examination. FBI psychiatrist Gregory Saathoff had told the jury Clancy was in control and her account of the voice was unconvincing.Reddington then read the prosecution's own opening statement aloud — the version that called Clancy's decision "the selfish choice." He asked the FBI psychiatrist if he agreed with the prosecution's words.Saathoff told the jury the characterization "really minimizes what she was going through." The Commonwealth's final witness rejected the Commonwealth's own rhetoric.The jury now has four possible verdicts: first-degree murder, second-degree murder, involuntary manslaughter, or not criminally responsible. Reddington also asked for a jury instruction on inadequate police investigation, arguing officers "didn't investigate anything" and didn't test blood at the scene. Sullivan declined that instruction. Closing arguments Thursday.END_LINKSListen Anywhere You Get Podcasts: https://pod.link/1655749292Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod?sub_confirmation=1Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpodDISCLAIMERThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.HASHTAGS#LindsayClancy #LindsayClancyTrial #HiddenKillers #TrueCrime #PostpartumPsychosis #DuxburyMassachusetts #PlymouthSuperiorCourt #InsanityDefense #MaternalMentalHealth #TrueCrimeToday
As expected, the jury heard a dramatic and powerful closing argument from Lindsay Clancy defense attorney Kevin Reddington. Reporters inside the courtroom described both Clancy and several jurors wiping tears from their eyes as Reddington showed pictures of the once happy family that he said was ripped apart because of “of the damn medicine and the lousy medical care that she got." Reddington took nearly the full hour to make his final case to jurors, saying the prosecution has manipulated the evidence, and reiterating that Clancy was a “darn good mother” who had no motive to kill her kids. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Dolly Parton died at age 80, just months after telling fans in May that her whole system was out of whack and she needed to slow down for treatment, with no official cause of death released yet. Chalene Johnson also breaks down the Callaway Golf ad pulled within hours of airing, where Good Good cofounder Garrett Clark tackles professional golfer Alexis Mistowski over a driver, and asks the uncomfortable question critics won't touch. Plus, the backlash Chalene got for wearing Meta smart glasses, and why she isn't backing down. Then, the latest from the Lindsay Clancy murder trial, where defense attorney Reddington's cross examination of the prosecution's expert witness may have just changed the case, backed by brand new 2026 research out of UCL on how postpartum psychosis actually works. Topics discussed: Dolly Parton, Callaway Golf, Good Good, Garrett Clark, Alexis Mistowski, Chip Brewer, PGA Tour, Meta glasses, Ray-Ban Meta, Kylie Jenner, Lindsay Clancy, Patrick Clancy, Cora Clancy, Dawson Clancy, Callan Clancy, Dr. Mack, Dr. Helbron, postpartum psychosis, UCL research, GoFundMe, Heard foundation. Join Chalene on Patreon her private podcast to hear all the latest on the Penthouse Drama and upcoming episode Session with a Renowned Pet Psychic
***Due to time constants, this episode is unedited. Day 20 was the last full day of evidence in the Lindsay Clancy murder trial, and it was the strangest day of the whole five weeks.The morning belonged to Dr. Kirk Heilbrun, the forensic psychologist the Commonwealth hired to explain postpartum psychosis to a jury. On cross examination, Kevin Reddington established that Heilbrun last treated a patient with postpartum psychosis in 1982, has never published a word on it, wrote his only article on psychosis in 1977, and has been paid roughly $54,000 at $300 an hour.That same witness told jurors Lindsay Clancy committed what he called altruistic filicide. That she killed her three children out of love, so they would not be left behind or suffer without her after she took her own life. The prosecution has argued for five weeks that this was planned and methodical. Their own expert just told the jury it was despair.The afternoon belonged to Dr. Gregory Saathoff, forensic psychiatrist at the University of Virginia and a senior psychiatrist for the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit. He gave that jury something no witness had given them in five weeks: a moment by moment account of how Cora, Dawson and Callan died, sourced entirely to Lindsay Clancy's own words. The refrigerator. The chicken nuggets. The 5:34 phone call. The voice. The order. And then he spent the rest of the day taking it apart.We go through the whole day in order, gavel to gavel, because the order is the argument.In this episode:The Monday mistrial motion, and why "mortal sin" has now been put in front of this jury twice.Heilbrun's direct: bipolar two, peritraumatic dissociation, and the eighteen minute problem. "Why the basement. Who among the children goes first. What do you say to the kids to keep them from panicking."The cross: 1982, the $54,000, the "beast" question, the day program in Rhode Island that would not take her, and Reddington standing behind Lindsay Clancy's wheelchair.Saathoff's five attacks on the voice, including the line that is going to end up in closing arguments: "Committing the act is not curative of the voice. I've not ever seen that."Why the chicken nuggets are contested evidence and not a poignant detail.The circus outside the courthouse, the livestream, and the TikToker the defense actually tried to put on the stand.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/we-saw-the-devil-unfiltered-political-analysis--4433638/support.Website: http://www.wesawthedevil.comPatreon: http://www.patreon.com/wesawthedevilRobin's Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/robin_wstdTwitter: http://www.twitter.com/WeSawtheDevilInstagram: http://www.instagram.com/wesawthedevilpodcast.TikTok: tiktok.com/@wesawthedevilpolitics
An FBI Behavioral Analysis Unit psychiatrist spent today's session in the Lindsay Clancy murder trial getting picked apart on cross-examination, and it wasn't pretty. Dr. Gregory Saathoff testified in the case of the Duxbury, Massachusetts mother accused of strangling her three children — 5-year-old Cora, 3-year-old Dawson, and 7-month-old Callan — with exercise resistance bands inside the family's Summer Street home on January 24, 2023. Clancy faces three counts of murder and three counts of strangulation, has pleaded not guilty, and attorney Kevin Reddington is arguing she was in the grip of severe postpartum psychosis and psychiatric overmedication.Reddington's cross-examination exposed how much of Saathoff's account rested on secondhand information. On the 911 call, Saathoff admitted he heard only grunts from Clancy — not the statement about trying to kill herself, which came from Patrick Clancy's testimony. The claim that Clancy crushed pills also traced back to Patrick, with nothing tested to verify it, leaving Reddington to ask how the empty bottles wound up in a drawer if no one checked. Saathoff acknowledged psychosis can produce false memories and distorted recollection of events. He also revealed he never personally tried to speak with Clancy's mother, relying entirely on the DA's office telling him she was unwilling — he didn't ask Reddington for access either. On redirect, ADA Jennifer Sprague had him walk through his postpartum psychosis experience, including two patients who became psychotic on a drug that's since been discontinued, and he called Dr. Tufts' treatment of Clancy appropriate.Prosecutors maintain Clancy understood the nature of her actions. She allegedly attempted suicide afterward by jumping from a second-story window and is now paralyzed from the waist down. The trial continues in Plymouth Superior Court.LinksJoin Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodDisclaimerThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.Hashtags#LindsayClancy #DuxburyTragedy #PostpartumPsychosis #TrueCrime #PlymouthCounty #CoraDawsonCallan #InsanityDefense #KevinReddington #TrueCrimeToday #Breaking
An FBI forensic psychiatrist found a crack in the voice that Lindsay Clancy says told her to kill her children — and it starts with a bowl of chicken nuggets on a couch.Gregory Saathoff, a senior psychiatrist for the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit, testified on August 25 that Clancy told him she was at the refrigerator preparing chicken nuggets for the children when Patrick called and the voice began. Patrick told Saathoff the children were already eating. Crime scene photographs showed a bowl on the couch. Saathoff called the discrepancy "a cause for significant concern" and identified a second inconsistency — Clancy gave different timelines for when the voice started to two separate evaluators, a gap of roughly twenty minutes.Earlier in the day, prosecution expert Kirk Heilbrun completed his testimony with a collision the jury will carry into deliberations. He told the courtroom Clancy is a grieving mother who tried hard to get help and is not self-centered — then testified she's criminally responsible. Reddington spent the cross exposing his $54,000 bill and his last encounter with postpartum psychosis in 1982. Heilbrun didn't move. Closing arguments expected Thursday.END_LINKSListen Anywhere You Get Podcasts: https://pod.link/1655749292Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod?sub_confirmation=1Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpodDISCLAIMERThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.HASHTAGS#LindsayClancy #LindsayClancyTrial #HiddenKillers #TrueCrime #PostpartumPsychosis #DuxburyMassachusetts #PlymouthSuperiorCourt #InsanityDefense #MaternalMentalHealth #TrueCrimeToday
The Lindsay Clancy murder trial, unfolding in Plymouth Superior Court, moved into a rough patch for the prosecution today. Clancy, 34, of Duxbury, Massachusetts, is accused of strangling her three children — Cora, 5, Dawson, 3, and Callan, 7 months — with exercise resistance bands inside the family's Summer Street home on January 24, 2023. She's pleaded not guilty to three counts of murder and three counts of strangulation, and attorney Kevin Reddington is running an insanity defense centered on severe postpartum psychosis and psychiatric overmedication.On cross-examination, Reddington went straight at the credibility of the state's expert. Dr. Gregory Saathoff, a forensic psychiatrist with FBI Behavioral Analysis Unit ties, had testified Clancy understood right from wrong and was criminally responsible despite a bipolar II diagnosis. Under questioning, he acknowledged he wasn't retained until January or February of 2026, more than three years after the killings, and said he had no idea what his university employer was paid for his time on the case. Reddington also got him to acknowledge a pattern: his expert testimony history runs almost entirely for prosecutors, prisons, and universities — not for defendants.The most uncomfortable stretch came over homicidal ideation. Saathoff confirmed Clancy had told her husband and mother about it directly. But asked whether she'd raised dark, intrusive thoughts of suicide and homicidal ideation with doctors and others more broadly, he wouldn't agree that the homicidal ideation part reached that far — even while admitting she repeatedly sought help and told doctors about dark and suicidal thoughts. Nobody, it turns out, ever asked her the one question that might matter most: were these just thoughts, or voices.Clancy is paralyzed from the waist down after her own alleged suicide attempt. Husband Patrick Clancy, absent from the home that day, now lives in Manhattan. The trial continues.LinksJoin Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.Hashtags #LindsayClancy #DuxburyTragedy #PostpartumPsychosis #TrueCrime #PlymouthCounty #ExpertWitness #InsanityDefense #KevinReddington #CrossExamination #Breaking
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Kirk Heilbrun told twelve jurors that Lindsay Clancy is still grieving her children. That she spent months trying to get help. That she is not self-centered. That she used the words "I have lost everything, and I don't want to be here." He said he would not consider her a beast.Then he told those same twelve people that she's criminally responsible for killing Cora, Dawson, and Callan — and that her moral awareness was "influenced" by suicidal despair but never extinguished. He was paid $54,000 by the Commonwealth to reach that conclusion. His last encounter with a postpartum psychosis patient was forty-four years ago. Reddington attacked his credentials, his compensation, and his lack of published work on postpartum conditions.The prosecution's final witness, FBI psychiatrist Gregory Saathoff, took a different approach — comparing Clancy's accounts across multiple interviews and finding discrepancies the defense will have to answer in closing. Clancy gave different timelines for when the voice started, and a detail about what the children were doing in the kitchen doesn't match the crime scene evidence. Closings expected Thursday.END_LINKSListen Anywhere You Get Podcasts: https://pod.link/1655749292Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod?sub_confirmation=1Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpodDISCLAIMERThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.HASHTAGS#LindsayClancy #LindsayClancyTrial #HiddenKillers #TrueCrime #PostpartumPsychosis #DuxburyMassachusetts #PlymouthSuperiorCourt #InsanityDefense #MaternalMentalHealth #TrueCrimeToday
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Dr. Gregory Saathoff, a forensic psychiatrist who works with the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit, took the stand today in the murder trial of Lindsay Clancy, the Duxbury, Massachusetts mother accused of strangling her three children — 5-year-old Cora, 3-year-old Dawson, and 7-month-old Callan — with exercise bands inside the family's Summer Street home on January 24, 2023. Clancy faces three counts of murder and three counts of strangulation. She's pleaded not guilty, and her attorney, Kevin Reddington, is running an insanity defense built on severe postpartum psychosis and psychiatric overmedication.Reddington spent cross-examination taking Saathoff's testimony apart piece by piece. Saathoff admitted that on the 911 call, he never actually heard Clancy say she tried to kill herself — just grunts. That detail came from Patrick Clancy's account instead. Same story with the pills: Saathoff said he got the information about Clancy allegedly crushing medication straight from Patrick — nothing was ever tested to confirm it. Reddington then asked the obvious follow-up nobody had an answer for: how did the empty pill bottles end up in a drawer? Saathoff also conceded that a person in psychosis can generate false memories and misremember events entirely — which doesn't exactly help a case built on secondhand recollection. He testified he never reached out to Clancy's mother himself, relying only on the DA's office telling him she wouldn't talk.Prosecutors argue Clancy understood what she was doing despite the mental-health claims. After the killings, she allegedly attempted suicide by jumping from a second-story window and is now paralyzed from the waist down. Husband Patrick Clancy, out running errands at the time, has since relocated to Manhattan. The trial continues in Plymouth Superior Court.LinksJoin Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodDisclaimerThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.Hashtags#LindsayClancy #DuxburyTragedy #PostpartumPsychosis #TrueCrime #PlymouthCounty #CoraDawsonCallan #InsanityDefense #KevinReddington #HiddenKillers #Breaking
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Lindsay Clancy, 34, of Duxbury, Massachusetts, is standing trial for the murders of her three children — Cora, 5, Dawson, 3, and Callan, 7 months — allegedly strangled with exercise resistance bands inside the family's Summer Street home on January 24, 2023. She faces three counts of murder and three counts of strangulation, has pleaded not guilty, and her defense, led by Kevin Reddington, is built around an insanity claim: severe postpartum psychosis and psychiatric overmedication.Cross-examination is where the prosecution's expert stopped having it easy. Dr. Gregory Saathoff, the FBI-affiliated forensic psychiatrist who diagnosed Clancy with bipolar II and testified she was criminally responsible, admitted under Reddington's questioning that he wasn't brought onto this case until January or February of 2026 — well after the killings — and that he didn't even know how much his own university employer got paid for his testimony. Reddington didn't let that sit quietly, either, pressing the point that Saathoff's expert work runs almost exclusively for prosecutors, prisons, and the institutions that write his paychecks.It got more pointed from there. Saathoff confirmed Clancy did tell her husband and mother about homicidal ideation — but when Reddington asked whether she'd complained to doctors, friends, and family about dark, intrusive thoughts of suicide and homicidal ideation more broadly, Saathoff wouldn't concede the homicidal piece. He did admit she kept reaching out for help, and that she told her doctors about dark thoughts and suicidal ideation. What never got asked, notably: whether those thoughts were just thoughts, or whether she experienced them as voices.Saathoff also testified he treated women with postpartum depression back in the 1980s and '90s, background the defense clearly wants jurors weighing against his conclusions today.Clancy is now paralyzed from the waist down after allegedly jumping from a second-story window. Husband Patrick Clancy has relocated to Manhattan. The trial continues in Plymouth Superior Court.LinksJoin Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.Hashtags #LindsayClancy #DuxburyTragedy #PostpartumPsychosis #TrueCrime #PlymouthCounty #ExpertWitness #InsanityDefense #KevinReddington #CrossExamination #Breaking
Day 19 of the Lindsay Clancy murder trial in Plymouth Superior Court, and the prosecution's rebuttal case fell apart in slow motion. Forensic psychologist Dr. Kirk Heilbrun called the postpartum psychosis defense "convenient," offered the clearest alternate theory yet, and then said the words "isn't suicide a mortal sin" in front of the jury. Kevin Reddington moved for a mistrial. Judge William Sullivan denied it and then reprimanded the prosecution anyway. The jury went home early. Closing arguments are Wednesday.But the story nobody is covering is the firm. Both of the Commonwealth's rebuttal experts were retained through Park Dietz and Associates, named for the psychiatrist whose false Law & Order testimony got Andrea Yates' conviction overturned in 2005. The defense's star witness on Friday was Dr. Phillip Resnick, who was the Yates defense expert. This trial is a rematch, and the two prosecution experts cannot even agree on what is wrong with Lindsay Clancy.IN THIS EPISODEReddington takes apart Dr. Avram Mack on the DSM's four week postpartum window, the WHO's different standard, and the proposed six week revision. "Postpartum is not a disease, doctor." Mack admits it is roughly the third time in his career he has testified on criminal responsibility, and that he has treated about ten women with postpartum psychosis since 2001. On cross he concedes that blood work and thyroid testing should have been done, and as far as he can tell were not.Then the firm. Park Dietz and Associates, the Andrea Yates conviction reversal, the joint evaluation at Tewksbury, and why "two independent experts" is doing a lot of work in that sentence.Then Heilbrun. His testing found no malingering and a slight tendency to underreport symptoms. He diagnosed bipolar II, which splits the Commonwealth's own two experts. He offered "suicide combined with altruistic filicide" as the alternate theory, a theory in which love is the motive. He attacked the 18 minute voice on three fronts. And he used the word "convenient."Then the mistrial. "Intentional misconduct," Sullivan's instruction from the bench, and the second time religion has entered this trial through the prosecution's door.SOURCESBoston Globe, CBS Boston, ABC News, Boston 25 News, CNN, Fox News Digital, Court TV, and archival reporting from the Washington Post, NBC News and Psychiatric News on the 2005 Andrea Yates reversal.IF YOU NEED ITNational Maternal Mental Health Hotline: call or text 1-833-TLC-MAMA. Free, confidential, 24/7.988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline: call or text 988.Keywords: Lindsay Clancy trial, Duxbury Massachusetts, Plymouth Superior Court, postpartum psychosis, insanity defense, Kirk Heilbrun, Avram Mack, Kevin Reddington, Judge William Sullivan, Park Dietz, Andrea Yates, altruistic filicide, true crime podcast, trial coverageBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/we-saw-the-devil-unfiltered-political-analysis--4433638/support.Website: http://www.wesawthedevil.comPatreon: http://www.patreon.com/wesawthedevilRobin's Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/robin_wstdTwitter: http://www.twitter.com/WeSawtheDevilInstagram: http://www.instagram.com/wesawthedevilpodcast.TikTok: tiktok.com/@wesawthedevilpolitics
Cross-examination turned into a credibility audit in the Lindsay Clancy murder trial this week. Clancy, 34, of Duxbury, Massachusetts, faces three counts of murder and three counts of strangulation in the deaths of her children — Cora, 5, Dawson, 3, and Callan, 7 months — allegedly strangled with exercise resistance bands inside the family's Summer Street home on January 24, 2023. She's pleaded not guilty, and defense attorney Kevin Reddington is arguing insanity: severe postpartum psychosis and psychiatric overmedication.Reddington took his shot at Dr. Kirk Heilbrun, the prosecution's forensic psychologist, and didn't waste time. First point: the evaluation happened about three years after the killings — and Heilbrun himself agreed that sooner is better for assessing someone's mental state after an offense. Second point: Heilbrun's direct experience treating mothers who killed their children came from roughly 44 years ago, four or five patients total. Not exactly current caseload material.Then Reddington opened the CV — about 70 pages of it — and read the gaps into the record. Plenty on juveniles, on prisoners reintegrating into society, on sexual abuse. Nothing on pregnancy. Nothing on postpartum depression or psychosis. Heilbrun confirmed he's coached both prosecution and defense on how to present expert testimony, but Reddington made the point that his actual career has run mostly through prosecutors and corrections. Heilbrun also testified he never met co-evaluator Avram Mack in person until they crossed paths at Tewksbury Hospital, and that his total contact with Clancy amounted to 10.5 hours spread across three days.Afterward, Clancy allegedly attempted suicide by jumping from a second-story window and is now paralyzed from the waist down. Husband Patrick Clancy, out running errands that day, has since relocated to Manhattan.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#LindsayClancy #DuxburyTragedy #PostpartumPsychosis #TrueCrime #PlymouthCounty #KevinReddington #KirkHeilbrun #CrossExamination #ExpertWitness #TrueCrimeToday
Mark Geragos and guest host Lauren Conlin unpack a tense day in the Lindsay Clancy trial, from Kevin Reddington's heated questioning of the Commonwealth's psychiatric expert to the dueling opinions over Clancy's mental state...plus the controversy surrounding those publicly supporting her.Watch Beyond A Reasonable Doubt and all Reasonable Doubt video content on YouTube exclusively at YouTube.com/ReasonableDoubtPodcast and subscribe while you're thereSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.