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This is the story of a three-year-old girl and the highest court in the land. The Supreme Court case Adoptive Couple v. Baby Girl is a legal battle that has entangled a biological father, a heart-broken couple, and the tragic history of Native American children taken from their families. We originally released this story back in 2013, when that girl's fate was still in the balance of various legal decisions. We thought now was a good time to bring the story back, because the Act at the center of the story is still being questioned.When then-producer Tim Howard first read about this case, it struck him as a sad but seemingly straightforward custody dispute. But, as he started talking to lawyers and historians and the families involved in the case, it became clear that it was much more than that. Because Adoptive Couple v. Baby Girl challenges parts of the 1978 Indian Child Welfare Act, this case puts one little girl at the center of a storm of legal intricacies, Native American tribal culture, and heart-wrenching personal stakes.LATERAL CUTS:What Up Holmes?The GatekeeperEPISODE CREDITS:Reported by - Tim HowardProduced by - Tim HowardEPISODE CITATIONS (so many):Background and Reporting from a range of different perspectives"Couple forced to give up daughter"An introductory article by Allyson Bird, for the Charleston, SC Post and Courier"Supreme Court Takes on Indian Child Welfare Act in Baby Veronica Case" A report for Indian Country Today by Suzette Brewer, who has also written a two-part series on the case."Supreme Court hears Indian child custody case"Tulsa World article by Michael Overall which includes Dusten Brown's account of his break-up with Veronica's mother, and his understanding about his custodial rights. Plus photos of Dusten, Veronica, and Dusten's wife Robin in their Oklahoma home_._Randi Kaye's report for CNN on the background of the case, and interviews with Melanie and Matt Capobianco: "Video: Adoption custody battle for Veronica"Nina Totenberg's report for NPR: "Adoption Case Brings Rare Family Law Dispute To High Court"Reporting by NPR's Laura Sullivan and Amy Walters on current ICWA violations in South Dakota.Dr. Phil's coverage: "Adoption Controversy: Battle over Baby Veronica"Analysis and EditorialsOp-ed by Veronica's birth mom, Christy Maldonado, in the Washington Post: "Baby Veronica belongs with her adoptive parents"Colorlines report "The Cherokee Nation's Baby Girl Goes on Trial:"Americans remain dangerously uninformed about the basics of tribal sovereignty, and what it means for the relationship between the United States and Native tribes and nations.The Weekly Standard's Ethan Epstein argues that ICWA is "being used to tear [families] apart]: "Mistreating Native American Children"Andrew Cohen considers the trickier legal aspects of the case for the Atlantic in "Indian Affairs, Adoption, and Race: The Baby Veronica Case Comes to Washington:"A little girl is at the heart of a big case at the Supreme Court next week, a racially-tinged fight over Native American rights and state custody laws.Marcia Zug's breakdown of the case (Marica Zug is an associate professor of law at the University of South Carolina School of Law who she specializes in family and American Indian law) "Doing What's Best for the Tribe" for Slate:Two-year-old “Baby Veronica” was ripped from the only home she's known. The court made the right decision.Marcia Zug for the Michigan Law Review: "Adoptive Couple v. Baby Girl: Two-and-a-Half WAys To Destroy Indian Law"From Walter Olson, a senior fellow at the Cato Institute's Center for Constitutional Studies: "The Constitutional Flaws of the Indian Child Welfare Act"Rapid City Journal columnist David Rooks poses a set of tough questions about ICWA: "ROOKS: Questions unasked, unanswered"Editorial coverage from The New York Times:"A Wrenching Adoption Case""Adoptive Parents vs. Tribal Rights"Contemporary, Historic, and Legal Source MaterialsAdoptive Couple v. Baby Girl on the SCOTUS (Supreme Court of the United States) BlogAudio from the oral arguments in the Supreme CourtOfficial website for ICWA (the federal Indian Child Welfare Act)1974 Hearings Before the Subcommittee on Indian Affairs "on problems that American Indian families face in raising their children and how these problems are affected by federal action or inaction." PDFThe National Indian Child Welfare AssociationThe First Nations Repatriation Institute, which works with and does advocacy for adopteesSignup for our newsletter!! It includes short essays, recommendations, and details about other ways to interact with the show. Sign up (https://radiolab.org/newsletter)!Radiolab is supported by listeners like you. Support Radiolab by becoming a member of The Lab (https://members.radiolab.org/) today.Follow our show on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook @radiolab, and share your thoughts with us by emailing radiolab@wnyc.org.Leadership support for Radiolab's science programming is provided by the Simons Foundation and the John Templeton Foundation. Foundational support for Radiolab was provided by the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation.
Tulsa World columnist Berry Tramel joined DJ & PK for his weekly visit on the show to talk about the Big 12 and SEC and other college football-related topics.
The entirety of DJ & PK for September 25, 2025: HOUR ONE Jay Hill and Aaron Roderick, BYU Football Riley Jensen, College Football Expert Brian Howell, BuffZone and Boulder Daily Camera HOUR TWO What is Trending: NFL, CFB, Utah Jazz, Utah Mammoth What's your evaluation of Bear Bachmeier Cameron Walker wants to stay at USU long term? HOUR THREE Berry Tramel, Tulsa World What's Bear Bachmeier's evaluation? Stats do or don't lie early on? HOUR FOUR Bryan Kehl, Former BYU Linebacker Slacker Radio Headlines Feedback of the Day
Hour three of DJ & PK for September 25, 2025: Berry Tramel, Tulsa World What's Bear Bachmeier's evaluation? Stats do or don't lie early on?
Tulsa World columnist Berry Tramel joined DJ & PK to talk about the Mike Gundy firing at Oklahoma State, John Mateer breaking his hand at Oklahoma and what he makes of the weekend ahead in the Big 12.
Tom and Berry discuss Oklahoma State's firing of Mike Gundy, offer their thoughts on trick plays, like the one OU used against Auburn, plus a look at three huge games this weekend. About the hosts Berry Tramel is a columnist at the Tulsa World in Oklahoma. Tom Shatel is a columnist for the Omaha World-Herald in Nebraska. Tramel has been covering college football since 1979. Shatel has been covering Nebraska for the Omaha World-Herald since 1991 and has been covering college football since 1980. Friends from their days covering the Big 8, these two get together once a week to talk all things college football. Follow the writers Berry Tramel: Click here to follow Berry's work Tom Shatel: Click here to follow Tom's work
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Host Tyler Jones (@TylerJonesLive) is joined by Tulsa World Sports Columnist Bill Haisten (@billhaisten), Bryan O'Connor (@CoachBoKnowsShow) & Thomas Bridges (@Thomas_Bridges).(0:30-13:35) Why we should replace Jimmy Kimmel at ABC!(13:35-25:10) Around the NFL: Joe Burrow's injury, Aaron Rodgers' bad performance against the Seahawks and the Chiefs' 0-2 start.(25:10-51:35) Big 12/SEC Breakdown: Hot Takes on Tennessee, Georgia, South Carolina, Kansas/Arizona State in London, new NCAA transfer portal window plus Big 12 and SEC Week 4 Preview.(51:35-1:28:10) Bill Haisten on Oklahoma and Oklahoma State.(1:28:10-2:26:10) Coach Bo's Football Fix Presented By O'Connor Advisory Group: Why Joe Burrow should demand a trade, Baker Mayfield's elite status, Daniel Jones and the Colts' fast start. Plus, NFL Week 3 Preview: LAR/PHI, DEN/LAC, KC/NYG and DET/BAL, as well as Arch Manning's struggles, Brent Pry out at Virginia Tech and DeShaun Foster out at UCLA, plus CFB Week 4 Preview: TTU/UTAH, OU/AUB, ILL/IU and MIZZOU/SCAR.(2:26:40-2:43:00) Tom Foolery Story of the Week: Samsung introduces ads on fridges.Today's show is sponsored by O'Connor Advisory Group. Start planning for your future now at https://oconnoradvisorygroup.com!Follow Tyler Jones on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TylerJonesLiveFollow Tyler Jones on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tylerjoneslive/Follow Tyler Jones on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/tylerjonesliveFollow Studio Soapbox on Twitter: https://twitter.com/Studio_SoapboxFollow Studio Soapbox on Facebook: https://facebook.com/studiosoapboxFollow The Jones Report on Instagram: https://instagram.com/jones_report
The entirety of DJ & PK for September 19, 2025: HOUR ONE Recapping Thursday Night Football Berry Tramel, Tulsa World Mark Harlan, Utah Athletic Director HOUR TWO What is Trending: NFL, CFB, MLB, RSL, NHL Hot Takes or Toast: How will Ute fans feel tomorrow? Finish the sentence "Death, Taxes and ___." HOUR THREE Football Friday shenanigans and superlatives Making our picks for Week 3 NFL locks Chris "The Bear" Fallica, Fox Sports HOUR FOUR Pablo Mastroeni, Real Salt Lake Slacker Radio Headlines Feedback of the Day
Hour one of DJ & PK for September 19, 2025: Recapping Thursday Night Football Berry Tramel, Tulsa World Mark Harlan, Utah Athletic Director
Thursday's 7am hour of Mac & Cube began with a preview of Auburn vs. Oklahoma by looking at the rather full injury report, Jackson Arnold's ability, and the plan for the Auburn Tigers; then, Berry Tramel, who covers Oklahoma for the Tulsa World, tells us why John Mateer has lived up to the billing, if Jackson Arnold is viewed as a villain, and how he sees the game against Auburn playing out; later, Cole gets enamored with the accents of some broadcasters; and finally, listeners chime in with their favorite accents. "McElroy & Cubelic In The Morning" airs 7am-10am weekdays on WJOX-94.5!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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This week, Tyler Jones and Thomas Bridges are joined by Tulsa World columnist Bill Haisten for a deep dive into Oklahoma football. The Sooners are set for their SEC opener against Auburn, and Haisten explains why OU's defense already looks playoff-ready while quarterback John Mateer has emerged as a surprise Heisman contender. The crew also breaks down Auburn quarterback Jackson Arnold's return to Norman and the pressure he'll face. Then the focus shifts to Stillwater, where Oklahoma State struggles under Mike Gundy have raised questions about recruiting, leadership, and the program's long-term direction. Is this Gundy's final season? Don't miss Haisten's insight into two programs heading down very different paths.This episode is sponsored in part by TicketSmarter:Use promo code LWOS10 to receive $10 off purchases of $100 or moreUse promo code LWOS20 to receive $20 off purchases of $300 or moreThink smarter. TicketSmarter
Hour three of DJ & PK for September 18, 2025: Berry Tramel, Tulsa World The CFP dog and pony show Buffalo Bills and Josh Allen shining
Tulsa World columnist Berry Tramel joined DJ & PK for preview the weekend ahead for BYU, Utah and the rest of the Big 12 Conference.
The entirety of DJ & PK for September 18, 2025: HOUR ONE Pablo Mastroeni, Real Salt Lake Bill Armstrong, Utah Mammoth Riley Jensen, College Football Expert HOUR TWO What is Trending: NFL, CFB, MLB, RSL, Utah Mammoth Hot Takes or Toast: Utah's short injury report Kyle Whittingham shortchanged Devon Dampier? HOUR THREE Berry Tramel, Tulsa World The CFP dog and pony show Buffalo Bills and Josh Allen shining HOUR FOUR Mark Harlan, University of Utah Athletics Slacker Radio Headlines Feedback of the Day
Big-time programs have already lost two games. Do we know who the great teams are? Also, Arch Manning has not looked good so far, but is it OK to boo a college athlete? About the hosts Berry Tramel is a columnist at the Tulsa World in Oklahoma. Tom Shatel is a columnist for the Omaha World-Herald in Nebraska. Tramel has been covering college football since 1979. Shatel has been covering Nebraska for the Omaha World-Herald since 1991 and has been covering college football since 1980. Friends from their days covering the Big 8, these two get together once a week to talk all things college football. Follow the writers Berry Tramel: Click here to follow Berry's work Tom Shatel: Click here to follow Tom's work
With a new quarterback, OU looks like a different team and Nebraska's offense led by Dana Holgorsen is doing nice things. Plus, Berry and Tom get into another wild week of college football with teams we thought were going to be good, looked anything but. About the hosts Berry Tramel is a columnist at the Tulsa World in Oklahoma. Tom Shatel is a columnist for the Omaha World-Herald in Nebraska. Tramel has been covering college football since 1979. Shatel has been covering Nebraska for the Omaha World-Herald since 1991 and has been covering college football since 1980. Friends from their days covering the Big 8, these two get together once a week to talk all things college football. Follow the writers Berry Tramel: Click here to follow Berry's work Tom Shatel: Click here to follow Tom's work
Hour one of DJ & PK for September 5, 2025: Recapping the night in sports Berry Tramel, Tulsa World Trevor Reilly, Utah Islanders
The entirety of DJ & PK for September 5, 2025: HOUR ONE Recapping the night in sports Berry Tramel, Tulsa World Trevor Reilly, Utah Islanders HOUR TWO What is Trending: NFL, College Football, MLB Hot Takes or Toast: Bold Prediction time What is Ron McBride's legacy? HOUR THREE Kevin Graham talking football David Locke, SEG Media Ron McBride enters Utah's Ring of Honor HOUR FOUR Digging into QB's in college football and NFL Slacker Radio Headlines Feedback of the Day
The entirety of DJ & PK for September 4, 2025: HOUR ONE Aaron Roderick, BYU Football Riley Jensen, College Football Expert Troy Clardy, Stanford Cardinal PxP Voice HOUR TWO What is Trending: NFL, College Football, NBA, MLB Hot Takes or Toast: Do you like college football or NFL more? What is the best NBA All-Star Game format? HOUR THREE Berry Tramel, Tulsa World Big 12 football thoughts Northern Utah Players of the Week HOUR FOUR Trevor Reilly, Utah Islanders Slacker Radio Headlines Feedback of the Day
Hour three of DJ & PK for September 4, 2025: Berry Tramel, Tulsa World Big 12 football thoughts Northern Utah Players of the Week
Tulsa World columnist Berry Tramel joined DJ & PK for his weekly visit to talk about the Big 12, BYU and Utah.
Oklahoma-Michigan talk dominates most of the conversation today as for only the second time in history these two storied college programs play each other in football. About the hosts Berry Tramel is a columnist at the Tulsa World in Oklahoma. Tom Shatel is a columnist for the Omaha World-Herald in Nebraska. Tramel has been covering college football since 1979. Shatel has been covering Nebraska for the Omaha World-Herald since 1991 and has been covering college football since 1980. Friends from their days covering the Big 8, these two get together once a week to talk all things college football. Follow the writers Berry Tramel: Click here to follow Berry's work Tom Shatel: Click here to follow Tom's work
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Tuesday's 9am hour of Mac & Cube kept on with Berry Tramel, who covers Oklahoma for The Tulsa World, telling us what, if anything, they learned from the opening FCS opponent, what questions the team has heading into Oklahoma, and what's the ceiling for this OU team; then, they guys question how focused some college football players are in today's game; later, we hear from you as you want to know what Alabama can do to fix what happened last weekend; and finally, to end on a laughing matter, we get a great Bad Box Score of the Day! "McElroy & Cubelic In The Morning" airs 7am-10am weekdays on WJOX-94.5!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
The entirety of DJ & PK for August 28, 2025: HOUR ONE Jay Hill and Kyle Whittingham Riley Jensen, College Football Expert Chris Kamrani, The Athletic HOUR TWO What is Trending Kelly Poppinga, BYU Football Hot Takes or Toast: Cupcake or P4 opener? HOUR THREE Berry Tramel, Tulsa World Wayne Cook, UCLA Sideline Reporter What type of game would you like to start with? HOUR FOUR What kind of opener do you prefer? Slacker Radio Headlines Feedback of the Day
Hour three of DJ & PK for August 28, 2025: Berry Tramel, Tulsa World Wayne Cook, UCLA Sideline Reporter What type of game would you like to start with?
Tulsa World sports columnist Berry Tramel joined DJ & PK to talk about the formal opening weekend of college football around the Big 12 Conference.
The entirety of DJ & PK for August 22, 2025: HOUR ONE Recapping the night in sports Greg Wrubell, BYU Cougars Broadcaster Berry Tramel, Tulsa World HOUR TWO What is Trending Hot Takes or Toast: Lauri Markkanen a Jazzman for long haul? HOUR THREE Pablo Mastroeni, Real Salt Lake David Locke, Utah Jazz and SEG Media Locke's numbers don't lie HOUR FOUR It's college football eve Slacker Radio Headlines Feedback of the Day
Hour one of DJ & PK for August 22, 2025: Recapping the night in sports Greg Wrubell, BYU Cougars Broadcaster Berry Tramel, Tulsa World
The entirety of DJ & PK for August 21, 2025: HOUR ONE Recapping the night in sports Spencer Fano, Morgan Scalley and Kalani Sitake Riley Jensen, College Football Expert HOUR TWO What is Trending Hot Takes or Toast Reaction to Bear Bachmeier poll HOUR THREE Berry Tramel, Tulsa World Are the Utes the odds-on favorite to win the Big 12? DJ & PK are full of it? HOUR FOUR Greg Wrubell, BYU PxP Voice Slacker Radio Headlines Feedback of the Day
Hour three of DJ & PK for August 21, 2025: Berry Tramel, Tulsa World Are the Utes the odds-on favorite to win the Big 12? DJ & PK are full of it?
Tulsa World columnist Berry Tramel made his weekly visit to talk about the Big 12, Bear Bachmeier as a freshman starter for BYU, Utah's place in the conference race and his fandom of Marie Osmond.
Hour one of DJ & PK for August 14, 2025: Devon Dampier, Utah Football Riley Jensen, College Football Expert Berry Tramel, Tulsa World
The entirety of DJ & PK for August 14, 2025: HOUR ONE Devon Dampier, Utah Football Riley Jensen, College Football Expert Berry Tramel, Tulsa World HOUR TWO What is Trending Hot Takes or Toast Taylor Swift makes waves again HOUR THREE Big 12 adds player availability reports Kansas lands unprecedented monetary gift Taylor Swift shows she has genuine football interest HOUR FOUR RJ Young, Fox Sports Slacker Radio Headlines Feedback of the Day
Tulsa World sports columnist Berry Tramel joined DJ & PK to talk about the Big 12 Conference, their place in the college football universe and look at the season ahead.
The entirety of DJ & PK for August 13, 2025: HOUR ONE Keanu Tanuvasa and Kyle Whittingham Frank Dolce, Former Utah Quarterback Jay Drew, Deseret News HOUR TWO What is Trending Hot Takes or Toast Bear Bachmeier as QB1 for BYU? HOUR THREE Riley Jensen, College Football Expert Bear Bachmeier in line to start at BYU? BYU's schedule would be good for young QB HOUR FOUR Berry Tramel, Tulsa World Slacker Radio Headlines Feedback of the Day
Hour four of DJ & PK for August 13, 2025: Berry Tramel, Tulsa World Slacker Radio Headlines Feedback of the Day
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Monday's 7am hour of Mac & Cube began with a look back at the last few practices that Alabama had on during fall camp; then, Berry Tramel, sports columnist for the Tulsa World, tells McElroy & Cubelic how Oklahoma's fall camp has gone & if the team is feeling the high expectations that most have for the team; later, Berry dropped a line from Batman '89 that got us thinking about Michael Keaton and whether or not he's an underrated gem; and finally, sticking with movies, what's the one movie that you'd HAVE to see if they re-released it into theaters? "McElroy & Cubelic In The Morning" airs 7am-10am weekdays on WJOX-94.5!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Gideon discusses the Sooners with Mason Young of the Tulsa World, a college QB shoots off his mouth, and which players are expected to move at the MLB trade deadline! Follow WWLS on X @sportsanimal, thesportsanimal.com, and The Sports Animal app!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Ben Criddle talks BYU sports every weekday from 2 to 6 pm.Today's Co-Hosts: Ben Criddle (@criddlebenjamin)Subscribe to the Cougar Sports with Ben Criddle podcast:Apple Podcasts: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/cougar-sports-with-ben-criddle/id99676
Host Tyler Jones (@TylerJonesLive) is joined by Tulsa World Oklahoma State Beat Writer Eric Bailey (@EricBaileyTW), Bryan O'Connor (@CoachBoKnowsShow) & Thomas Bridges (@Thomas_Bridges).(0:30-16:10) The #SummerOfJones survives Little Rock!(16:10-36:15) NBA Free Agency: Thunder extend SGA, J-Dub + Chet, Giddey likely staying in Chicago, Chris Paul's final stop and why Damian Lillard might not sign anytime soon.(36:15-56:30) Big 12/SEC Breakdown: Hot Takes on Arch Manning and Mike Gundy, Joe Castiglione announces retirement from OU and Big 12 Media Days highlights.(56:30-1:24:10) Eric Bailey on Big 12 Media Days, Oklahoma State and Joe Castiglione.(1:24:10-1:56:05) Coach Bo's Football Fix Presented By O'Connor Advisory Group: Tristan Wirfs' injury, Kirk Cousins felt 'misled' by the Falcons, Brock Purdy's future without Deebo Samuel, Coach Prime's next chapter at Colorado, PJ Fleck's extension at Minnesota and the Big 12's partnership with the WWE.(1:56:05-2:31:05) Draft SZN: Sports figures you'd like to grab a beer with.(2:31:05-2:50:00) Tom Foolery Story of the Week: Too many people are pooping on the beach.Today's show is sponsored by O'Connor Advisory Group. Start planning for your future now at https://oconnoradvisorygroup.com!Follow Tyler Jones on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TylerJonesLiveFollow Tyler Jones on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tylerjoneslive/Follow Tyler Jones on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/tylerjonesliveFollow Studio Soapbox on Twitter: https://twitter.com/Studio_SoapboxFollow Studio Soapbox on Facebook: https://facebook.com/studiosoapboxFollow The Jones Report on Instagram: https://instagram.com/jones_report
The entirety of DJ & PK for July 11, 2025: HOUR ONE Devon Dampier, Utah Football Tim LaComb, SEG Media Berry Tramel, Tulsa World HOUR TWO What is Trending Hot Takes or Toast Hype for Cooper Flagg vs. Bronny James warranted? HOUR THREE David Locke, SEG Media Pablo Mastroeni, Real Salt Lake Who wins the Big 12 this fall? HOUR FOUR Can Ace Bailey become Tracy McGrady and is that good? Slacker Radio Headlines Feedback of the Day
Tuesday's 7am hour of Mac & Cube started off with a live look at Big 12 Media Days as Greg has boots on the ground in Frisco, Texas; then, did you know that there are Love Island watch parties?!; later, Cole & Greg continue the fun by asking if Morgan Wallen is a top-5 musical act right now; and finally, Berry Tramel, who covers Oklahoma for the Tulsa World, tells us what OU is losing when Joe Castiglione retires and why the Sooners are in good shape moving forward. "McElroy & Cubelic In The Morning" airs 7am-10am weekdays on WJOX-94.5!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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The Tulsa World's Berry Tramel sits down with Mark and Brad live from Big 12 Media Days in Frisco, TX. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Leila Rahimi and Marshall Harris were joined by Tulsa World columnist Berry Tramel to discuss the Thunder and Pacers being tied at 1-1 in the NBA Finals. He also discussed potential changes to the College Football Playoff format.
In the second hour, Leila Rahimi and Marshall Harris were joined by baseball analyst and former general manager Ruben Amaro Jr. to preview the Cubs-Phillies series, which begins Monday evening in Philadelphia. After that, Tulsa World columnist Berry Tramel joined the show to discuss the Thunder and Pacers being tied at 1-1 in the NBA Finals. He also discussed potential changes to the College Football Playoff format. Later, Rahimi and Harris held the Halftime segment.