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Can We Welcome the Stranger and Uphold the Law?   How should Christians think about immigration, the border crisis, and refugees—without getting trapped in partisan talking points? In this Good Faith podcast episode, host Curtis Chang sits down with Jennie Murray, president of the National Immigration Forum, to explore a faith-informed approach to U.S. immigration policy. They explore why the U.S. immigration system is so broken and confusing, the tension between compassion and the rule of law, how immigration affects jobs, labor shortages, and the economy, all while debunking myths about crime, fentanyl, and "open borders." (02:34) - Christian first or American first? Identity and immigration (06:01) - Compassion vs rule of law? (10:36) - How the immigration system is failing (14:09) - What really drives migration (18:21) - Labor, talent, and the U.S. economy (22:12) - Who counts as "illegal" or "undocumented"? (31:27) - Law, grace, and the gospel (37:34) - Crime, fentanyl, and fear-based narratives (48:03) - What ordinary Christians can do   Episode Guide for Personal and Group Study   Download World Relief's: "Let's Talk About It" conversation cards   Partner with World Relief in walking alongside families displaced by war, disaster and persecution — give today: World Relief   Get your Good Faith mug by donating to the Good Faith podcast today!   Mentioned In This Episode: TRAC: Immigration numbers and research  Refugee resettlement ceilings and numbers caps: Migration Policy Institute  A Turning Point for the Unauthorized Immigrant Population in the United States  Gallup Polling: Surge in U.S. Concern About Immigration Has Abated Pew Research Research: Majority of Americans to say immigrants strengthen the U.S. Pew Research: U.S. Unauthorized Immigrant Total Dips to Lowest Level in a Decade Lifeway/World Relief Research Study: Evangelical Views on Immigration Study Pew Research: Support for Legal Status for Immigrants Illegally Ariving as Children Bill Summary: Dream Act of 2025 CATO Institute: 72% Believe Immigrants Enter the U.S. for Jobs & to Improve Their Lives Referenced Scripture: Leviticus 19:34 (ESV) - The foreigner residing among you Matthew 25:35-36 (ESV) - Treatment of the stranger International Comparison Stories: Reuters, Nov 2022: Canada's immigration targets to fill workforce gaps/support economic growth DW News, June 2023: Germany aims to make it easier for non-nationals to work there The Guardian, April 2023): Australia targets skilled migrants to fill critical job vacancies BBC News, Dec 2023): "The UK government is responding to workforce shortages by expanding visa opportunities for foreign workers More From Jennie Murray and National Immigration Forum: More about Jennie Murray Learn more about National Immigration Forum Engage with Resources from National Immigration Forum Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   Sign up: Good Faith Newsletter   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.

In this episode, Thomas Berry of the Cato Institute and Jed Shugerman of the Boston University School of Law join the recap the oral arguments from Trump v. Slaughter and debate whether the statutory removal protections for members of the Federal Trade Commission violate the separation of powers. Jeffrey Rosen, president and CEO of the National Constitution Center, moderates.   Resources  Thomas Berry, Brief of the Cato Institute as Amicus Curiae in Support of Petitioners (10/17/2025)  Jed Shugerman, Brief Amicus Curiae of Professor Jed Handelsman Shugerman in Support of Respondents (11/14/2025)  Jed Shugerman, “The Indecisions of 1789: Inconstant Originalism and Strategic Ambiguity” (2023)  Jane Manners and Lev Menand, “The Three Permissions: Presidential Removal and the Statutory Limits of Agency Independence” (2021)  Marbury v. Madison (1803)  Myers v. United States (1926)  Humphrey's Executor v. United States (1935)  Morrison v. Olson (1988)  Seila Law LLC v. CFPB (2020) Stay Connected and Learn More Questions or comments about the show? Email us at ⁠podcast@constitutioncenter.org⁠ Continue the conversation by following us on social media @ConstitutionCtr Explore the ⁠America at 250 Civic Toolkit⁠ Explore ⁠Pursuit: The Founders' Guide to Happiness⁠ ⁠Sign up⁠ to receive Constitution Weekly, our email roundup of constitutional news and debate Follow, rate, and review wherever you listen Join us for an upcoming ⁠live program⁠ or watch recordings on ⁠YouTube⁠ Support our important work:   ⁠⁠⁠Donate

If you were in your twenties and could choose to be born at any point in human history, would you be insane to choose any other time to be alive than right now? Our guest says yes, and the statistics back him up. Regardless of perception, shaped in part by politicians and populists, the average person today is richer than John D. Rockefeller simply by virtue of being alive in 2025. And yet, the “anxious generation” of Gen Z and Gen Alpha seem unaware of their own financial wellbeing and appear confused as to why they aren't instantly as well off as their parents in providing for themselves. Many believe homeownership is impossible, that they will never pay off their loans, and that the cost of living is unmanageable. Is this belief based in any reality? Was life truly better for their parents? Or is this a generational cycle of perception? And who benefits from peddling this fear?Norbert Michel is the Vice President and Director of the Cato Institute's Center for Monetary and Financial Alternatives, where he specializes on issues pertaining to financial markets and monetary policy. Michel was most recently the Director for Data Analysis at the Heritage Foundation where he edited and contributed chapters to multiple books. Michel is also the author of the book “Crushing Capitalism: How the Stagnation Narrative is Threatening the American Dream”, and coauthor of “Financing Opportunity: How Financial Markets Have Fueled American Prosperity for More than Two Centuries”. Read the transcript here.Subscribe to our Substack here.

The Cato Institute's Katherine Thompson and Josh Shifrinson join Justin Logan to dissect the most contentious passages of the National Security Strategy, including its warnings about European “civilizational erasure,” its revived Monroe Doctrine instincts, and the absence of military escalation language on China. The discussion weighs whether this NSS truly reflects restraint and realism or simply refines old habits under a new rhetorical wrapping. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

David Bier, director of immigration studies and the Selz Foundation chair in immigration policy at the Cato Institute, shares data from the Department of Homeland Security that shows almost three-quarters of people detained by ICE since October do not have any criminal convictions, despite claims from the Trump Administration that they are prioritizing detaining people with violent criminal histories.

According to DHS, almost three-quarters of people detained by ICE since October do not have any criminal convictions.On Today's Show:David Bier, director of immigration studies and the Selz Foundation chair in immigration policy at the Cato Institute, explains the data, and claims from the Trump Administration that they are prioritizing detaining people with violent criminal histories.

The Cato Institute's Jeff Singer and Michael Fox mark Repeal Day by examining how alcohol prohibition and the modern drug war share the same destructive logic: criminalizing peaceful people, fueling black markets, corrupting law enforcement incentives, and empowering violent traffickers. Drawing on real-world examples of overdose deaths, civil forfeiture, and policing excesses, they argue for a consistent, liberty-based framework that treats drug users with the same legal respect afforded to alcohol consumers. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Arab Digest editor William Law's guest this week is Jon Hoffman from the Washington libertarian think tank the Cato Institute. Their conversation focuses on the growing rift in American right wing circles about ongoing US support for Israel. Jon Hoffman also reflects on his recent visit to Israel and the Occupied West Bank and he delivers a simple message: America walk away. Sign up NOW at ArabDigest.org for free to join the club and start receiving our daily newsletter & weekly podcasts.

Thank you so much for listening to the Bob Harden Show, celebrating over 14 years broadcasting on the internet. On Wednesday's show, we continue our discussion of Trump's expansion of executive authority with Cato Institute Chairman Emeritus Bob Levy. Professor and author Andrew Joppa and I discuss a variety of topics including the Democrat vision for America, immigration (both legal and illegal), the importance of assimilation into American culture, and anti-Semitism. Please join us on Thursday's show. We'll visit with Florida Citizens Alliance CEO Keith Flaugh, Cato Institute's Michael Cannon, Orthopedic Surgeon Dr. George Markovich, and former Mayor of Naples, Bill Barnett. Access this or past shows at your convenience on my web site, social media platforms or podcast platforms.

Might this be the last of the special elections in Georgia this year? No, there's another on the 9th (ranked choice would eliminate this silliness). Still, a tight Tennessee Congressional special election could signal shifting political winds. Nick Alex, a Democrat running in Georgia's gerrymandered 9th District, joined the show today. What happens in Tennessee today could be a bellwether for his campaign, centered on affordability, rural health care, and persuading voters who feel left behind by their own party. Then there are the mounting concerns around Pete Hegseth seemingly finding war crimes without a war. Allegations of an unlawful second strike on a drug boat — a story with a Georgia twist: did Admiral Alvin Holsey, a Morehouse grad and Georgia native, resign because of this strike? The alignment is uncanny. Bipartisan sharks are circling, Pete. At today's Cabinet knob-slob, VP JD Vance went off on the Biden presidency - granted rent-free space in this administration's head, apparently, on affordability issues that pre-date Biden, like housing costs (hint: it isn't undocumented immigrants, couch canoodler) to "green new deal" investment hurting agri-business (because climate change hasn't?).The Cato Institute's Adam Michel - Director of Tax Policy Studies - joined to parse out who really wins with Trump's new “baby accounts,” and CBS News' Michael Wallace gave seniors a last-minute reminder as Medicare enrollment nears its deadline.OH, it's Giving Tuesday: consider Lost-N-Found Youth, please and thanks!Tune in to catch the Ron Show weekdays from 4-6pm Eastern time on Georgia NOW! Grab the app or listen online at heargeorgianow.com.#NickAlex #MichaelWallace #DrOz #TrumpAccounts #MedicareEnrollment #GeorgiaPolitics #TennesseeElection #WarCrimeInquiry #HearGeorgiaNow #TheRonShow

In this episode of Management Matters, host James-Christian Blockwood sits down with Romina Boccia, Director of Budget and Entitlement Policy at the Cato Institute and a leading voice on federal spending and entitlement reform, and Academy Fellow Rob Shriver, Managing Director of the Civil Service Strong and Good Government Initiatives at Democracy Forward and former Acting Director of the U.S. Office of Personnel Management to reflect on the longest government shutdown in U.S. history. Together, they explore its root causes, economic and social impacts, and the lessons policymakers can draw to prevent future crises. Tune in for an insightful discussion on governance, fiscal responsibility, and the ripple effects of political gridlock.Management Matters is a presentation of the National Academy of Public Administration produced by Lizzie Alwan and Matt Hampton and edited by Matt Hampton. Support the Podcast Today at: donate@napawash.org or 202-347-3190Episode music: Hope by Mixaund | https://mixaund.bandcamp.comMusic promoted by https://www.free-stock-music.comFollow us on YouTube for clips and more: @NAPAWASH_YT

President Trump said Friday he wants to “permanently pause migration” from poorer nations in the wake of Wednesday’s shooting of two National Guard members. David Bier, director of immigration studies at the libertarian Cato Institute, joins Liz Landers for more on the president's call for immigration reforms. PBS News is supported by - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/about/funders. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy

Thank you so much for listening to the Bob Harden Show, celebrating over 14 years broadcasting on the internet. Happy Thanksgiving! On Thursday's show, we bills proposed for the next Florida legislative session for public education with the Director of Policy and Advocacy for the Florida Citizen's Alliance, Ryan Kennedy. We visit with Cato Institute … The post What About Those Obamacare Subsidies? appeared first on Bob Harden Show.

Is your Thanksgiving dinner more or less affordable this year? Human Progress's Marian Tupy joins the Cato Institute's Ryan Bourne to discuss the political battle over affordability, the long-term costs of high inflation, and how time-prices show most goods becoming more abundant over time. Plus, the pair discuss human progress developments and why they are both thankful for the USA. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Thank you so much for listening to the Bob Harden Show, celebrating over 14 years broadcasting on the internet. On Wednesday's show, we continue our discussion of Trump's expansion of executive authority with Cato Institute Chairman Emeritus Bob Levy. Professor and author Andrew Joppa and I discuss a variety of topics including Trump's floating the concept of a 50-year mortgage, his meeting with New York City Mayor-Elect Mamdani, the “seditious-six” video on following illegal orders, the radicalization of Generation Z, and the chaos leading up to the mid-term election. Please join us on Thursday's show. We'll visit with Florida Citizens Alliance Legislative Liaison Ryan Kennedy, Cato Institute's Michael Cannon, Pacific Legal Foundation Senior Legal Fellow William Yeatman, and former Mayor of Naples, Bill Barnett. Access this or past shows at your convenience on my web site, social media platforms or podcast platforms.

Hey BillOReilly.com Premium and Concierge Members, welcome to the No Spin News for Monday, November 24, 2025. Stand Up for Your Country.  Bill reports on a federal judge throwing out the criminal cases against former FBI Director James Comey and New York AG Letitia James. Talking Points Memo: The latest on the Ukraine negotiations after an outline of the proposed peace deal was leaked. Michael F. Cannon of the Cato Institute joins the No Spin News to discuss U.S. health care and Trump's expected proposal, which includes a two-year extension of Obamacare subsidies. What happened to the DOGE Department? Georgia Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene announced her resignation from Congress, effective next year. Final Thought: Subscribe to Bill's YouTube channel and watch his new bonus commentary.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this edition of Trendsgiving Week, Jack and Miles discuss the Cato Institute's report on ICE detainees, Ryan Lizza revealing a raunchy poem RFK Jr. sent to his fiance, Sean Duffy thinking you dress terribly, Federal Courts throwing out the Comey and James cases, Donald Trump Jr. and J-Lo at an Indian wedding and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

How have immigration efforts in Chicago and Charlotte gone? What have we seen from the sweeps there? We talk with David Bier, Director of Immigration Studies for the Cato Institute.

FEMA was meant to help only when disasters exceeded state capacity. Yet today it functions primarily as a national subsidy machine, encouraging development in floodplains, bailing out wealthy coastal states, and shifting costs onto taxpayers far from the danger zones. The Cato Institute's Dominik Lett and Chris Edwards discuss how well-intentioned federal aid has created perverse incentives, bureaucratic delays, and a long tail of spending that continues decades after storms like Katrina. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

For Donald Trump, China has served as a major justification for economic protectionism, highlighting our dependencies and need to onshore products with national security implications. But that's the talk. The reality is more dismal: a less-than-hawkish trade deal this month, with tariffs that seem to isolate allies and, inversely, reshore production on China's mainland. For Team Trump, three camps have merged into one contradictory mess within the administration. Members of these camps look to use tariffs as leverage for trade deals, as a source of revenue, and to protect domestic industry. No single tariff can achieve all three and brief, ambiguous trade deals do little to decouple with China, friend-shore, and rebuild American industry. Where do we go from here? How will these tariff camps shake out? And how can we improve our strategic approach to global trade and protect America from the very real China threat?Scott Lincicome is the Vice President of General Economics the Cato Institute's Herbert A. Stiefel Center for Trade Policy Studies. He writes on international and domestic economic issues, including international trade; subsidies and industrial policy; manufacturing and global supply chains; and economic dynamism. Lincicome also is a senior visiting lecturer at Duke University Law School, where he has taught a course on international trade law. Prior to joining Cato, Lincicome spent two decades practicing international trade law at White & Case LLP, where he litigated national and multilateral trade disputes. He also authors a column for The Dispatch entitled, Capitolism.Read the transcript here.Subscribe to our Substack here.

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Thank you so much for listening to the Bob Harden Show, celebrating over 14 years broadcasting on the internet. On Wednesday's show, we continue our discussion of Trump's expansion of executive authority with Cato Institute Chairman Emeritus Bob Levy. Professor and author Andrew Joppa and I discuss a variety of topics including the transformation of American culture, the “Overton Window,” and our political climate, the attraction of Socialism for young people, and the Jeffrey Epstein issue. Please join us on Thursday's show. We'll visit with Florida Citizens Alliance Legislative Liaison Ryan Kennedy, Cato Institute's Michael Cannon, Competitive Enterprise Institute Senior Economist Ryan Young, and former Mayor of Naples, Bill Barnett. Access this or past shows at your convenience on my web site, social media platforms or podcast platforms.

Mike Fox of the Cato Institute joins Josh to discuss the trial of Kilmer Abrego Garcia and how the Trump administration's attempted use of a plea bargain—and Garcia's refusal to accept it—has put not only the administration's mistake in his case but also the entire plea bargaining process in the spotlight. Using the Garcia case as one example, Josh and Mike explore how prosecutors wield plea bargains. They examine the manipulative and heavy-handed tactics that convince the majority of defendants to surrender their right to a trial by a jury of their peers.   Mike's article in Reason: https://reason.com/2025/10/09/whats-really-at-stake-in-the-kilmar-abrego-garcia-case/   Follow Mike's work at the Cato Institute, and on X: https://www.cato.org/people/mike-fox https://x.com/foxmike90?s=21&t=S8JoQpY3m4n6bFrTo8tLrg  

University of Georgia professor emeritus George Selgin argued that many of FDR's New Deal programs were counterproductive and impeded recovery during the Great Depression. He spoke at the Cato Institute in Washington, D.C. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Krystal Ball joins Katie to discuss the Democrats pathetic caving in the face of the government shutdown. Then Jon Hoffman, PhD, of the Cato Institute joins to the political rift in America's right-wing over Israel and the potential for things to escalate with Iran. And then we speak to Etan Mabourakh, the Action Organizing Manager at the National Iranian American Council (NIAC). For the full interview with Krystal Ball, join us on Patreon at: https://www.patreon.com/posts/patreon-krystal-143382865 Krystal Ball is an American political commentator and host of Breaking Points and Krystal Kyle & Friends. She was previously a political candidate, as well as co-host on the MSNBC show The Cycle, a regular contributor to The Huffington Post, and a co-host of The Hill's Rising. Jon Hoffman is a research fellow in defense and foreign policy at the Cato Institute. His research interests include U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East, Middle East geopolitics, and political Islam. Hoffman's work has been featured in a number of academic and policy-oriented platforms, including Foreign Policy, The Washington Post, The National Interest, Middle East Policy, and more. Hoffman was included in the inaugural cohort of the “40 under 40” award provided by the Middle East Policy Council for furthering U.S. understanding of the Middle East. Hoffman holds a Ph.D. in political science, an M.A. in Middle East and Islamic Studies, and a B.A. in Global Affairs, all from George Mason University Etan Mabourakh is the Action Organizing Manager at the National Iranian American Council (NIAC), where oversees NIAC's grassroots efforts to empower Iranian American In every state around the country for pro-peace, pro civil rights and human rights advocacy. He also co-captains the NIAC New York Chapter mobilizing volunteer leaders, engaging policymakers, and advancing campaigns for peace and justice in the Middle East and U.S. **Please support The Katie Halper Show ** For bonus content, exclusive interviews, to support independent media & to help make this program possible, please join us on Patreon - / thekatiehalpershow Get your Katie Halper Show Merch here! https://katiehalper.myspreadshop.com/all Follow Katie on Twitter: https://x.com/kthalps Follow Katie on Instagram: / kthalps Follow Katie on TikTok: / kthalps

Originally Recorded October 10th, 2025About Johan Norberg: https://www.johannorberg.net/https://www.cato.org/people/johan-norbergCheck out Johan's new book, Peak Human: What We Can Learn from the Rise and Fall of Golden Ages: https://www.cato.org/books/peak-human-0 This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit musicallyspeaking.substack.com

The Cato Institute's Justin Logan and Brandan P. Buck unpack the Trump administration's shifting justifications for military action in Venezuela, from fentanyl and cocaine interdiction to Monroe Doctrine revivalism. They explore the legal and strategic risks of invoking war powers under dubious pretenses, warning that the push for regime change could repeat the mistakes of Libya and Iraq while doing little to solve the hemisphere's drug or governance problems.Show Notes:https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dont-do-it-mr-president/https://www.theamericanconservative.com/when-peace-through-strength-means-war-is-peace/https://www.cato.org/commentary/us-military-cant-solve-fentanyl-crisis Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Part 2: The Natural Law provides a key to resolving a Republican debate in the 1980s on the normative judicial power, Judicial Activism v. Judicial Restraint. We did the Foreward by Richard A. Epstein last time (15 Oct 2025) and this time we continue with the Preface and Chapter 1. Stephen Macedo published "The New Right v. The Constitution" with The CATO Institute in 1986. We're going to make a fair use and do a transformative reading of the book. CATO offers a free download of the book here: https://www.cato.org/books/new-right-v-constitution We'd like to thank Stephen Macedo for writing the book and to thank CATO for making this material available in publishing it. Consider supporting CATO with a financial donation so that they can continue providing quality resources for discussion. Tell a friend about their resources. This episode includes a reading at the end of Psalm 51 (KJV) and January 18th of Streams in the Desert (Cowman: Los Feliz Station Lost Angeles, CA 1925). The Republican Professor is a pro-appropriate-judicial-activism podcast. Warmly, Lucas J. Mather, Ph.D. The Republican Professor Podcast The Republican Professor Newsletter on Substack https://therepublicanprofessor.substack.com/ https://www.therepublicanprofessor.com/podcast/ https://www.therepublicanprofessor.com/articles/ YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@TheRepublicanProfessor Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheRepublicanProfessor Twitter: @RepublicanProf Instagram: @the_republican_professor

Thank you so much for listening to the Bob Harden Show, celebrating over 14 years broadcasting on the internet. On Wednesday's show, Professor and author Andrew Joppa and I discuss a variety of topics including the problems of American demographics, problems created by gambling in America, Socialism, and the Supreme Court's review of tariffs. Please join us on Thursday's show. We'll visit with Florida Citizens Alliance Co-Founder Keith Flaugh, Cato Institute's Michael Cannon, Better Together CEO Megan Rose, and former Mayor of Naples, Bill Barnett. Access this or past shows at your convenience on my web site, social media platforms or podcast platforms.

Can a president tax Americans at will under the guise of a national emergency? The Cato Institute's Scott Lincicome and Brent Skorup dissect the high-stakes Supreme Court battle over Trump's “fentanyl tariffs,” the broadest assertion of trade power in modern U.S. history. They explore how the case could reshape executive authority, revive dormant constitutional doctrines, and determine whether Congress or the White House truly controls U.S. trade policy.Show Notes:https://www.cato.org/blog/emergency-tariff-refunds-theres-easy-way-very-hard-wayhttps://www.cato.org/blog/why-three-cato-trade-scholars-filed-amicus-brief-us-supreme-courthttps://www.cato.org/commentary/striking-down-tariffs-wont-hurt-anybodyhttps://www.cato.org/legal-briefs/trump-v-vos-selections-learning-resources-v-trump Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

New Episode: “Sheldon Richman Discusses His Life”In this episode, Sheldon Richman—executive editor at The Libertarian Institute and former senior editor at both the Cato Institute and the Institute for Humane Studies—joins Michael Liebowitz to reflect on his life, career, and decades of work advancing the cause of liberty.Richman brings a wealth of experience and insight to the conversation, exploring the philosophical and policy debates that have shaped modern libertarian thought. The discussion ranges from the ethical and economic dimensions of immigration policy to the broader cultural misunderstandings that surround freedom and individual rights.As the author of Coming to Palestine and What Social Animals Owe to Each Other, Richman offers a seasoned perspective on peace, justice, and the moral foundations of a free society.About Michael Liebowitz – Host of The Rational EgoistMichael Liebowitz is the host of The Rational Egoist podcast, a philosopher, author, and political activist committed to the principles of reason, individualism, and rational self-interest. Deeply influenced by the philosophy of Ayn Rand, Michael uses his platform to challenge cultural dogma, expose moral contradictions, and defend the values that make human flourishing possible.His journey from a 25-year prison sentence to becoming a respected voice in the libertarian and Objectivist communities is a testament to the transformative power of philosophy. Today, Michael speaks, writes, and debates passionately in defence of individual rights and intellectual clarity.He is the co-author of two compelling books that examine the failures of the correctional system and the redemptive power of moral conviction:Down the Rabbit Hole: How the Culture of Corrections Encourages Crimehttps://www.amazon.com.au/Down-Rabbit-Hole-Corrections-Encourages/dp/197448064XView from a Cage: From Convict to Crusader for Libertyhttps://books2read.com/u/4jN6xjAbout Xenia Ioannou – Producer of The Rational EgoistXenia Ioannou is the producer of The Rational Egoist, overseeing the publishing and promotion of each episode to reflect a consistent standard of clarity, professionalism, and intellectual integrity.As a CEO, property manager, entrepreneur, and lifelong advocate for capitalism and individual rights, Xenia ensures the podcast stays true to its core values of reason, freedom, and personal responsibility.Xenia also leads Capitalism and Coffee – An Objectivist Meetup in Adelaide, where passionate thinkers gather to discuss Ayn Rand's ideas and their application to life, politics, and culture.Join us at: https://www.meetup.com/adelaide-ayn-rand-meetup/(Capitalism and Coffee – An Objectivist Meetup)Follow Life on Purpose – Xenia's thought-provoking essays at her Substack:https://substack.com/@xeniaioannou?utm_source=user-menu#TheRationalEgoist #Libertarianism #SheldonRichman #MichaelLiebowitz #Philosophy #IndividualRights #Liberty #Reason #Freedom

You might want to think of this totally gonzo episode as the 3WHH-Squared, as it was taped live during happy hour Friday night in a very noisy Washington Hilton Hotel at the annual conference of the Federalist Society, where John and I are present and making a general nuisance of ourselves. Lucretia was supposed to be in Hawaii this week on some kind of junket or super-secret mission, but the government shutdown interposed itself.) As we did last year, we simply invited a handful of legal luminaries to drop by our not-so-quiet corner, with cocktails in hand, to kick around whatever is on our mind. We were delighted to have Judge William Pryor of the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals drop by briefly before having to run off to host a dinner for his clerks; Roger Pilon, long-time director of constitutional studies at the Cato Institute, hung around to heckle everyone; Ilan Wurman, one of the rising young stars of the conservative legal academy, fell into our snare as well, and Hadley Arkes, who needs no introduction here. (Would any such gathering be complete without Hadley dropping by? To ask the question is to answer it, of course, as any disquisition on necessary truths from Aristotle to Kant would know.)The highlight of this gaggle was Akhil Reed Amar, Sterling Professor of Law and Political Science at Yale University (and one of John's principal mentors at Yale Law way back when, which may explain a few things), to talk about his brand new and highly readable book, Born Equal: Remaking America's Constitution, 1840-1920. Since we were recording out in the open at the Washington Hilton, this episode is a bit . . . authentic, to so speak. We ask the indulgence of listeners to its many irregularities.

Today's podcast is titled “Should America Build a Missile Defense System?” Recorded in 2001, Dennis McCuistion, former Clinical Professor of Corporate Governance and Executive Director of the Institute for Excellence in Corporate Governance at the University of Texas at Dallas, U.S. House Majority Leader Dick Armey, Director of Defense Policy Studies at the Cato Institute, Ivan Eland, Deputy Director of the Coalition to Reduce Nuclear Dangers, Stephen Young, and former Director of the Strategic Defense Initiative Organization and Chairman of High Frontier, Henry F. Cooper discuss whether the United States should build a national missile defense system. Listen now, and …

In a world drowning in talk about government aid, redistribution, and populist “solutions,” it's refreshing to hear from someone who has actually seen what works.This week on the Let People Prosper Show, I'm joined by Dr. Tom G. Palmer, one of the most respected and influential advocates for liberty around the globe. Tom serves as Executive Vice President for International Programs at Atlas Network, where he holds the George M. Yeager Chair for Advancing Liberty, and he's a Senior Fellow at the Cato Institute.He's helped freedom movements in more than 100 countries—from Poland to Peru—and his work has shown time and again that free people, not foreign aid, drive prosperity. He's the author of Realizing Freedom and the editor of The Morality of Capitalism and Why Liberty. His latest book, co-authored with Matt Warner, Development with Dignity: Self-Determination, Localization, and the End to Poverty, offers a roadmap for true, bottom-up progress.We talk about the moral foundations of capitalism, the failures of foreign aid, and how dignity and innovation—not dependency—lift people out of poverty. This conversation is a reminder that prosperity isn't granted by governments—it's earned by free individuals.For more insights, visit vanceginn.com. You can also get even greater value by subscribing to my Substack newsletter at vanceginn.substack.com. Please share with your friends, family, and broader social media network. 

Learn more about the book here: https://www.cato.org/books/fighting-freedom-learn Susan Pendergrass speaks with Dr. James Shuls, fellow at the Show-Me Institute and head of the Education Liberty Branch at Florida State University, and Dr. Neal McCluskey of the Cato Institute about their new book, Fighting for the Freedom to Learn: Examining America's Centuries-Old School Choice Movement. They discuss how the fight for educational freedom long predates modern debates over public schooling, why early advocates viewed schooling as a family and community responsibility, and how today's school choice expansion connects to America's founding principles. The conversation covers the history of the common school movement, the roots of residential school assignment, and why educational freedom has always been central to the American story, and more. Produced by Show-Me Opportunity

In Episode 525 of District of Conservation, Gabriella interviews Travis Fisher - director of energy and environmental policy studies at the Cato Institute. Travis discusses his role at Cato Institute, why energy abundance is having a moment, Bill Gates disavowing climate doomerism, challenging the 2009 EPA endangerment finding, if AI data centers are responsible for rising electricity demand, consumer-regulated electricity, and much more. Tune in!SHOW NOTESFollow Travis on X and Cato InstituteThe Fishtank: Free-Market Insights on Energy PolicyCato Institute: The Budgetary Cost of the Inflation Reduction Act's Energy SubsidiesThe Simon Abundance Index 2025A Critical Review of Impacts of Greenhouse Gas Emissions on the U.S. Climate Advocates for Consumer Regulated ElectricityNew Hampshire Sparks a Revolution in Electricity SupplyWhat Would Consumer-Regulated Electricity Look Like?

The topic of this episode is, “Should Congress pass a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution?”The federal government experienced a shutdown in autumn 20025, which is one of many that have occurred in the past 20 years. The nation also has racked up about $38 trillion in debt, and Congress and the president have not taken real action to right America's fiscal ship.So should Congress pass a balanced budget amendment to the US Constitution?My guest Kurt Couchman says ‘Yes, it should.' Kurt is the author of the new book, Fiscal Democracy in America: How a Balanced Budget Amendment Can Restore Sound Governance (Palgrave MacMillan, 2025).Kurt has been kicking around Capitol Hill for about 15 years. Presently he is a senior fellow at Americans for Prosperity, a group that promotes the principles and policies of economic freedom and liberty. Previously, Kurt worked for two members of Congress, and has had stints at the Cato Institute and the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, among other gigs. He has spent a lot of time engaged with Congress on matters relating to federal spending and the budget, so I am delighted to have him here with us to discuss the idea of a balanced budget amendment to the US Constitution.Click here for the full transcript to the episode.

After calling out the neocons like Jeb Bush and John McCain and building his campaign on promises of peace and putting America first, President Trump is now flirting with the idea of intervening in Venezuela to take out Nicolás Maduro, using the specter of drug cartels as a pretense. Matt Kibbe is joined by Cato Institute fellow Brandan Buck to explain why this would be a really bad idea. U.S. intervention is what led to the rise of Chavez and Maduro in the first place. Combine that with our nation's history of catastrophic nation-building experiments and the fundamental impossibility of central planning, and it's clear that America's power would be far better used in trying to improve the lives of our own citizens.

Cato Institute's Travis Fisher joins Rep. Crenshaw to cover the current state of climate science vs climate alarmism. They unpack the new Department of Energy climate report that surveys the latest climate models, the impact of CO₂, ocean acidification, and hurricane trends. They look at the impact of a 2009 EPA regulation called the “Endangerment Finding,” which has had a massively negative impact on American innovation and prosperity. They also discuss the path forward towards energy realism: reliable, affordable, and secure energy paired with innovation-driven, commonsense environmental progress.   Travis Fisher is the director of energy and environmental policy studies at the Cato Institute. He has nearly 20 years of experience in energy policy, including leadership roles at the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, the Institute for Energy Research, and the Department of Energy during the first Trump administration. He most recently served again on a detail to the Department of Energy under Secretary Chris Wright, where he managed the development of the new climate report. Find him on X at @ts_fisher and read his research at Cato Institute.

CBS EYE ON THE WORLD WITH JOHN BATCHELOR 1909 DR THE SHOW BEGINS IN THE DOUBTS ABOUT THE LA FIRE RESTORATION...... 10-10-25 FIRST HOUR 9-915 Palisades Fire Aftermath and In-N-Out Expansion GUEST NAME: Jeff Bliss Jeff Bliss discusses the aftermath of the Palisades fire, noting that Adam Carolla, who lost his home, believes rebuilding is stalled by political forces seeking subsidized housing or natural restoration. An arrest was made in Florida for Jonathan Flendernik in connection with the fire. Video evidence suggests the LA Fire Department failed to fully extinguish the initial fire, which spread through root systems. In business news, the family-owned In-N-Out chain, known for high profits and employee treatment, is expanding with five new stores. The Boring Company's Prufrock tunneling machine is operating in Las Vegas. 915-930 Mixed Economic Signals and High-Tech Development in Lancaster County GUEST NAME: Jim McTague Jim McTague reports on Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, which is introducing high-tech industry by building two data centers on the former RR Donnelley printing plant site. Construction is underway on the L-shaped, two-story building. Anecdotally, the local economy shows mixed signals: two young people were seen signing up for the National Guard, suggesting tight employment, while an entrepreneur boasted of successful property investments. Consumers are cautious, engaging in "inflation shopping." 930-945 The Perpetual Conflict Over Executive Power and the Rise of Lawfare GUEST NAME: Professor Richard Epstein Professor Richard Epstein analyzes the perpetual clash between executive and congressional power, particularly regarding the Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act of 1974. He notes the Roberts court generally protects executive power. The dispute over fund impoundment, seen in Department of State et al. versus AIDS Vaccine Advocacy Coalition, reflects deep polarization, hindering compromise. Epstein criticizes the use of lawfare, exemplified by the indictments of Letitia James and James Comey, stating it fails long-term and leads to cycles of violence and discord. 945-1000 The Perpetual Conflict Over Executive Power and the Rise of Lawfare GUEST NAME: Professor Richard Epstein Professor Richard Epstein analyzes the perpetual clash between executive and congressional power, particularly regarding the Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act of 1974. He notes the Roberts court generally protects executive power. The dispute over fund impoundment, seen in Department of State et al. versus AIDS Vaccine Advocacy Coalition, reflects deep polarization, hindering compromise. Epstein criticizes the use of lawfare, exemplified by the indictments of Letitia James and James Comey, stating it fails long-term and leads to cycles of violence and discord. SECOND HOUR 10-1015 NPT Enforcement and the Golden Dome Defense Concept GUEST NAME: Henry Sokolski Henry Sokolski, executive director of the Non-proliferation Policy Education Center, debates whether the US should abandon the 1970 Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), citing foreign criticism and industry constraints. He argues the US should stay to enforce the NPT by clarifying red lines, justifying the bombing of nuclear facilities. Sokolski also discusses the proposed Golden Dome defense system, intended to protect the Western Hemisphere against missiles and drones. The viability of the system, particularly regarding Low Earth Orbit defenses, remains unclear and requires greater Congressional buy-in. 1015-1030 NPT Enforcement and the Golden Dome Defense Concept GUEST NAME: Henry Sokolski Henry Sokolski, executive director of the Non-proliferation Policy Education Center, debates whether the US should abandon the 1970 Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), citing foreign criticism and industry constraints. He argues the US should stay to enforce the NPT by clarifying red lines, justifying the bombing of nuclear facilities. Sokolski also discusses the proposed Golden Dome defense system, intended to protect the Western Hemisphere against missiles and drones. The viability of the system, particularly regarding Low Earth Orbit defenses, remains unclear and requires greater Congressional buy-in. 1030-1045 The US Fiscal Crisis: Spending Cuts Are the Only Way Out GUEST NAME: Adam Michel Adam Michel, director of tax policy at the Cato Institute, discusses the US fiscal crisis stemming from large deficits and overwhelming debt. He recalls the 1980s Ronald Reagan tax cut where promised spending cuts never materialized. The deficit is the annual gap between taxes and spending, accumulating into the national debt. Michel identifies a "deficit hawk coalition" split between deficit hawks (agnostic on revenues/spending) and budget hawks (concerned with government size), advocating for spending cuts to solve the crisis. Entitlement programs like Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid are the root of fiscal problems. 1045-1100 The US Fiscal Crisis: Spending Cuts Are the Only Way Out GUEST NAME: Adam Michel Adam Michel, director of tax policy at the Cato Institute, discusses the US fiscal crisis stemming from large deficits and overwhelming debt. He recalls the 1980s Ronald Reagan tax cut where promised spending cuts never materialized. The deficit is the annual gap between taxes and spending, accumulating into the national debt. Michel identifies a "deficit hawk coalition" split between deficit hawks (agnostic on revenues/spending) and budget hawks (concerned with government size), advocating for spending cuts to solve the crisis. Entitlement programs like Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid are the root of fiscal problems. THIRD HOUR 1100-1115 Roman History: The Rivalry Between Cicero and Clodius GUEST NAME: Professor Josiah Osgood Professor Josiah Osgood discusses the end of the Roman Republic. The scandal involving Publius Clodius Pulcher disguising himself as a woman at the women-only Bona Dea ceremony led to his trial. Cicero testified against Clodius, leading to a dangerous rivalry. Acquitted, Clodius won election as tribune, passed a law targeting Cicero for executing citizens without trial, and destroyed his Palatine Hill mansion. Later, Cicero was present during Julius Caesar's assassination, though not involved in planning. 1115-1130 Roman History: The Rivalry Between Cicero and Clodius GUEST NAME: Professor Josiah Osgood Professor Josiah Osgood discusses the end of the Roman Republic. The scandal involving Publius Clodius Pulcher disguising himself as a woman at the women-only Bona Dea ceremony led to his trial. Cicero testified against Clodius, leading to a dangerous rivalry. Acquitted, Clodius won election as tribune, passed a law targeting Cicero for executing citizens without trial, and destroyed his Palatine Hill mansion. Later, Cicero was present during Julius Caesar's assassination, though not involved in planning. 1130-1145 Roman History: The Rivalry Between Cicero and Clodius GUEST NAME: Professor Josiah Osgood Professor Josiah Osgood discusses the end of the Roman Republic. The scandal involving Publius Clodius Pulcher disguising himself as a woman at the women-only Bona Dea ceremony led to his trial. Cicero testified against Clodius, leading to a dangerous rivalry. Acquitted, Clodius won election as tribune, passed a law targeting Cicero for executing citizens without trial, and destroyed his Palatine Hill mansion. Later, Cicero was present during Julius Caesar's assassination, though not involved in planning. 1145-1200 Roman History: The Rivalry Between Cicero and Clodius GUEST NAME: Professor Josiah Osgood Professor Josiah Osgood discusses the end of the Roman Republic. The scandal involving Publius Clodius Pulcher disguising himself as a woman at the women-only Bona Dea ceremony led to his trial. Cicero testified against Clodius, leading to a dangerous rivalry. Acquitted, Clodius won election as tribune, passed a law targeting Cicero for executing citizens without trial, and destroyed his Palatine Hill mansion. Later, Cicero was present during Julius Caesar's assassination, though not involved in planning. FOURTH HOUR 12-1215 Trump's Diplomatic Triumph: Expanding the Middle East Peace Consensus GUEST NAME: Conrad Black Conrad Black discusses the ceasefire deal between Gaza, Hamas, and the Israeli Defense Forces. He praises President Trump for his astute diplomacy in attracting sympathy from Arab states and non-Arab Muslim countries apart from Iran, such as Indonesia and Pakistan. Black considers this the greatest diplomatic success in the Middle East since the establishment of the state of Israel. The consensus, achieved by expanding the negotiating scope, is that established states are preferable to terrorist operations. 1215-1230 Italy's Rising Diplomatic Status Amid Economic Headwinds GUEST NAME: Lorenzo Fiori Lorenzo Fiori details Italy's enhanced diplomatic role, noting that Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni has been invited to the Israel-Gaza peace agreement signing. Italian carabinieri are already training local police near the Rafah border. Meloni has friction with French President Macron over migration policy and Africa. Italy's production index has fallen below mid-2021 levels due to weak internal demand and the highest energy costs in Europe. Mr. Trump restored Columbus Day, and AC Milan owner Cardinale received honorary Italian citizenship. 1230-1245 Space Updates: NASA Administrator, Reusable Rockets, and Satellite Cell Service GUEST NAME: Bob Zimmerman Bob Zimmerman discusses the potential renomination of billionaire Jared Isaacman as NASA administrator, noting Isaacman's previous private manned space missions. He highlights Stoke Space raising nearly $1 billion to develop its fully reusable Nova rocket, potentially cheaper than SpaceX's offerings. AST SpaceMobile signed Verizon (adding to AT&T) to use its "Bluebirds" satellites for direct cell phone service, eliminating dead spots. SpaceX recently flew a Falcon booster for its 29th flight. Congressional cuts zeroed out 15 potential space missions. 1245-100 AM Space Updates: NASA Administrator, Reusable Rockets, and Satellite Cell Service GUEST NAME: Bob Zimmerman Bob Zimmerman discusses the potential renomination of billionaire Jared Isaacman as NASA administrator, noting Isaacman's previous private manned space missions. He highlights Stoke Space raising nearly $1 billion to develop its fully reusable Nova rocket, potentially cheaper than SpaceX's offerings. AST SpaceMobile signed Verizon (adding to AT&T) to use its "Bluebirds" satellites for direct cell phone service, eliminating dead spots. SpaceX recently flew a Falcon booster for its 29th flight. Congressional cuts zeroed out 15 potential space missions.

The US Fiscal Crisis: Spending Cuts Are the Only Way Out GUEST NAME: Adam Michel Adam Michel, director of tax policy at the Cato Institute, discusses the US fiscal crisis stemming from large deficits and overwhelming debt. He recalls the 1980s Ronald Reagan tax cut where promised spending cuts never materialized. The deficit is the annual gap between taxes and spending, accumulating into the national debt. Michel identifies a "deficit hawk coalition" split between deficit hawks (agnostic on revenues/spending) and budget hawks (concerned with government size), advocating for spending cuts to solve the crisis. Entitlement programs like Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid are the root of fiscal problems. 1903

The US Fiscal Crisis: Spending Cuts Are the Only Way Out GUEST NAME: Adam Michel Adam Michel, director of tax policy at the Cato Institute, discusses the US fiscal crisis stemming from large deficits and overwhelming debt. He recalls the 1980s Ronald Reagan tax cut where promised spending cuts never materialized. The deficit is the annual gap between taxes and spending, accumulating into the national debt. Michel identifies a "deficit hawk coalition" split between deficit hawks (agnostic on revenues/spending) and budget hawks (concerned with government size), advocating for spending cuts to solve the crisis. Entitlement programs like Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid are the root of fiscal problems. 1936

A growing list of U.S. cities are set to see National Guard troops in their communities as President Trump explores ways to deploy the military on American soil. But legal challenges are piling up. On today's show, Kimberly talks with Patrick Eddington, senior fellow in homeland security and civil liberties at the Cato Institute, about the changing role of the National Guard and why Trump's use of the Guard defies precedent.Here's everything we talked about today:"The President's List of Subversive Organizations" from the Cato Institute"Trump's use of Guard may have lasting impact on cities and troops" from The Washington Post"Trump's use of the National Guard sets up a legal clash testing presidential power" from AP News"Troops and marines deeply troubled by LA deployment: ‘Morale is not great'" from The Guardian"What We Lose by Distorting the Mission of the National Guard" from The AtlanticWe love hearing from you. Leave us a voicemail at 508-U-B-SMART or email makemesmart@marketplace.org.

This is the story of a three-year-old girl and the highest court in the land. The Supreme Court case Adoptive Couple v. Baby Girl is a legal battle that has entangled a biological father, a heart-broken couple, and the tragic history of Native American children taken from their families. We originally released this story back in 2013, when that girl's fate was still in the balance of various legal decisions. We thought now was a good time to bring the story back, because the Act at the center of the story is still being questioned.When then-producer Tim Howard first read about this case, it struck him as a sad but seemingly straightforward custody dispute. But, as he started talking to lawyers and historians and the families involved in the case, it became clear that it was much more than that. Because Adoptive Couple v. Baby Girl challenges parts of the 1978 Indian Child Welfare Act, this case puts one little girl at the center of a storm of legal intricacies, Native American tribal culture, and heart-wrenching personal stakes.LATERAL CUTS:What Up Holmes?The GatekeeperEPISODE CREDITS:Reported by - Tim HowardProduced by - Tim HowardEPISODE CITATIONS (so many):Background and Reporting from a range of different perspectives"Couple forced to give up daughter"An introductory article by Allyson Bird, for the Charleston, SC Post and Courier"Supreme Court Takes on Indian Child Welfare Act in Baby Veronica Case" A report for Indian Country Today by Suzette Brewer, who has also written a two-part series on the case."Supreme Court hears Indian child custody case"Tulsa World article by Michael Overall which includes Dusten Brown's account of his break-up with Veronica's mother, and his understanding about his custodial rights. Plus photos of Dusten, Veronica, and Dusten's wife Robin in their Oklahoma home_._Randi Kaye's report for CNN on the background of the case, and interviews with Melanie and Matt Capobianco: "Video: Adoption custody battle for Veronica"Nina Totenberg's report for NPR: "Adoption Case Brings Rare Family Law Dispute To High Court"Reporting by NPR's Laura Sullivan and Amy Walters on current ICWA violations in South Dakota.Dr. Phil's coverage: "Adoption Controversy: Battle over Baby Veronica"Analysis and EditorialsOp-ed by Veronica's birth mom, Christy Maldonado, in the Washington Post: "Baby Veronica belongs with her adoptive parents"Colorlines report "The Cherokee Nation's Baby Girl Goes on Trial:"Americans remain dangerously uninformed about the basics of tribal sovereignty, and what it means for the relationship between the United States and Native tribes and nations.The Weekly Standard's Ethan Epstein argues that ICWA is "being used to tear [families] apart]: "Mistreating Native American Children"Andrew Cohen considers the trickier legal aspects of the case for the Atlantic in "Indian Affairs, Adoption, and Race: The Baby Veronica Case Comes to Washington:"A little girl is at the heart of a big case at the Supreme Court next week, a racially-tinged fight over Native American rights and state custody laws.Marcia Zug's breakdown of the case (Marica Zug is an associate professor of law at the University of South Carolina School of Law who she specializes in family and American Indian law) "Doing What's Best for the Tribe" for Slate:Two-year-old “Baby Veronica” was ripped from the only home she's known. The court made the right decision.Marcia Zug for the Michigan Law Review: "Adoptive Couple v. Baby Girl: Two-and-a-Half WAys To Destroy Indian Law"From Walter Olson, a senior fellow at the Cato Institute's Center for Constitutional Studies: "The Constitutional Flaws of the Indian Child Welfare Act"Rapid City Journal columnist David Rooks poses a set of tough questions about ICWA: "ROOKS: Questions unasked, unanswered"Editorial coverage from The New York Times:"A Wrenching Adoption Case""Adoptive Parents vs. Tribal Rights"Contemporary, Historic, and Legal Source MaterialsAdoptive Couple v. Baby Girl on the SCOTUS (Supreme Court of the United States) BlogAudio from the oral arguments in the Supreme CourtOfficial website for ICWA (the federal Indian Child Welfare Act)1974 Hearings Before the Subcommittee on Indian Affairs "on problems that American Indian families face in raising their children and how these problems are affected by federal action or inaction." PDFThe National Indian Child Welfare AssociationThe First Nations Repatriation Institute, which works with and does advocacy for adopteesSignup for our newsletter!! It includes short essays, recommendations, and details about other ways to interact with the show. Sign up (https://radiolab.org/newsletter)!Radiolab is supported by listeners like you. Support Radiolab by becoming a member of The Lab (https://members.radiolab.org/) today.Follow our show on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook @radiolab, and share your thoughts with us by emailing radiolab@wnyc.org.Leadership support for Radiolab's science programming is provided by the Simons Foundation and the John Templeton Foundation. Foundational support for Radiolab was provided by the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation.