Podcasts about building thinking classrooms

In this episode, Sharona and Boz sit down with Jen Smielewski, a math teacher at Avondale High School. Jen works with Doug Wilson, the principal at Avondale High School who was a guest on episode 101 about visionary leadership. In this episode, Jen shares the "experience first, formalize later" methodology that the entire math department has adopted through the change to standards-based grading and under Doug's leadership. From the adoption of Building Thinking Classrooms to the methods of daily assessment of common schoolwide standards, Jen provides detailed examples of the changes at Avondale and how they have unlocked success in her classroom. Join us for this amazing conversation!LinksPlease note - any books linked here are likely Amazon Associates links. Clicking on them and purchasing through them helps support the show. Thanks for your support!Episode 101 – Visionary Leadership: Culture Change through Asking Questions – A 10-Year Journey to Building-Wide Grading Reform (with Doug Wilson)Building Thinking Classrooms In Mathematics, by Peter LiljedahlFAME: Formative Assessment for Michigan EducatorsA Beginner's Guide to Standards Based Grading, by Kate OwensResourcesThe Center for Grading Reform - seeking to advance education in the United States by supporting effective grading reform at all levels through conferences, educational workshops, professional development, research and scholarship, influencing public policy, and community building.The Grading Conference - an annual, online conference exploring Alternative Grading in Higher Education & K-12.Some great resources to educate yourself about Alternative Grading:The Grading for Growth BlogThe Grading ConferenceThe Intentional Academia BlogRecommended Books on Alternative Grading:Grading for Growth, by Robert Talbert and David ClarkSpecifications Grading, by Linda Nilsen

Are you looking for Building Thinking Classrooms Style Math Tasks that are perfect for 2nd garde? In this episode, I talk about the best of the best, most popular second grade low-floor, high-ceiling math tasks!Have a topic you want me to discuss? Fill out the Google Form!Helpful Links2nd Grade Math Task Blog2nd Grade Bestselling Bundle2nd Grade Year-Long BundleTry a FREE Math TaskLet's Connect!InstagramWebsiteYouTube Channel

Are you looking for Building Thinking Classrooms Style Math Tasks that are perfect for first grade? In this episode, I talk about the best of the best, most popular 1st grade low-floor, high-ceiling math tasks!Have a topic you want me to discuss? Fill out the Google Form!Helpful Links1st Grade Math Task Blog1st Grade Bestselling Bundle1st Grade Year Long BundleTry a FREE Math TaskLet's Connect! InstagramWebsiteYouTube Channel

Are you looking for Building Thinking Classrooms Style Math Tasks that are perfect for Kindergarten? In this episode, I talk about the best of the best, most popular Kindergarten low floor, high ceiling math tasks!Have a topic you want me to discuss? Fill out the Google Form! Helpful LinksKindergarten Math Task BlogK Bestselling BundleK Year Long BundleTry a FREE Math TaskLet's Connect! InstagramWebsiteYouTube Channel

This month, Mark talks with Emma Mitchell, the chair of the science department at the Ethel Walker School in Connecticut. They talk about her background working in labs, often as the only female. They talk about Emma's experience teaching at an all-girls' school, and then about how she came across modeling instruction when trying to figure out how to teach physics in a pandemic. She completely changed how she teaches by bringing modeling to her ninth graders and to her advanced physics students. They talk about the way students become the ones doing the heavy lifting during class, as opposed to sitting back and receiving the information through lecture. They talk about Peter Liljedahl's book, Building Thinking Classrooms, and how similar the author's ideas for math instruction are to the ideas of modeling. They spend time talking about the benefits of vertical whiteboarding for students' thinking. Emma finishes with her best tips for starting a new school year well. Guest Dr. Emma Mitchell Emma Mitchell teaches introductory- and advanced-level physics and is the Science Department Chair at The Ethel Walker School, an independent boarding and day school for girls in Simsbury, Connecticut. She holds a BA in Physics from Vassar College and a Ph.D. in Engineering Physics from University of Virginia. Emma participated in her first workshop in Modeling Instruction in 2020 and has been involved in the AMTA ever since. She is currently the Vice President of the AMTA Executive Board. She is excited about the transformative change that Modeling has brought to her classroom and loves any opportunity to discuss pedagogy with other science teachers. X | Bluesky Highlights [4:18] Emma Mitchell "And so introducing modeling just brought this joy and this, it just made me love teaching even more. And that was scarce in 2020. So I felt really appreciative that I found this new way of teaching at a time when teaching was so hard because it made it easier actually." [5:26] Emma Mitchell "Science is built off of iterative mistakes, right? And science is built off of collaboration." [20:54] Emma Mitchell "So students have a tendency if you go straight from lab to equation, at least for my ninth graders, they would think about it really algorithmically. And so they would just sort of revert to this kind of plug-and-chug way of solving problems. And by making them go through the step with the diagrams, it's actually harder in a lot of ways because they have to wrap their minds around what's really going on. And they have to apply, new situations and applying that to the graphs and that to these diagrams, is asking them to do a lot more thinking." Resources Download Transcript Ep 70 Transcript Links [27:02] Building Thinking Classrooms

Chase Orton shares his vision for transforming math education by shifting teacher identity from content deliverers to "cultural stewards" of students' mathematical stories. He advocates for embracing imperfection while continuously growing, focusing on human connections rather than test scores, and creating classrooms where mistakes are valuable learning opportunities.Join us for upcoming learning opportunities with Chase Orton at MCIU, including a virtual text talk series in September-October and a three-day in-person workshop series covering "Building Thinking Classrooms" on October 29th, December 3rd, and February 25th. Visit https://learn.mciu.org for more information.

Mathematics education never stands still. After a decade of classroom implementation, research advances, and teacher feedback, CPM Educational Program has reimagined their middle school curriculum for today's learning environments.In this enlightening conversation with Tony Jones (Managing Editor) and Karen Wootton (Director of Curriculum Assessment), we explore how the third edition of CPM's Core Connections middle school courses brings cutting-edge teaching practices directly into mathematics classrooms. This isn't merely an update – it's a thoughtful integration of proven strategies that transform how students engage with mathematical concepts.The new edition incorporates Building Thinking Classrooms principles through vertical non-permanent surfaces where students work collaboratively while standing, making their mathematical thinking visible to everyone. Daily randomized teams ensure students experience diverse perspectives, while streamlined one-day lesson structures maintain coherent mathematical storylines despite changing group dynamics.Teachers will appreciate the addition of structured "door questions" to immediately engage students, brief "launches" that activate mathematical thinking, and reflection journals that deepen student understanding. Meanwhile, beloved problem contexts like the "jumping frogs of Calaveras County" and "algebra walk" remain intact, preserving what has made CPM distinctive while updating content to ensure all students see themselves reflected in the curriculum.Beyond pedagogical enhancements, the team carefully analyzed and adjusted content alignment with current standards frameworks, rebalanced major and supporting work clusters, and completely refreshed the physical design with new illustrations, fonts, and spiral-bound teacher materials for improved usability.Discover how this curriculum evolution honors what works while embracing what's next in mathematics education. Whether you're a current CPM teacher or simply curious about how curriculum can respond to research advances, this conversation offers valuable insights into thoughtful educational design.Ready to explore how the third edition might transform your mathematics classroom? Visit support.cpm.org or check out the materials at CPM's booth at an upcoming mathematics conference.Send Joel and Misty a message!The More Math for More People Podcast is produced by CPM Educational Program. Learn more at CPM.orgX: @cpmmathFacebook: CPMEducationalProgramEmail: cpmpodcast@cpm.org

In this episode, Mark talks with Beth Burns, who is a modeler and modeling workshop leader who teaches chemistry to both high school and college students. They talk about her journey from working in industry to teaching, and to modeling instruction. They talk about how whiteboarding is so importing in modeling instruction as part of giving students autonomy in their own learning. Guest Elizabeth Burns Elizabeth Burns has been teaching Advanced Placement Chemistry as well as Syracuse University Project Advance (SUPA) Forensic Science at Fairport High School in western New York State for over 20 years. She is also an adjunct professor of General Chemistry at Nazareth University. She has a BS in Chemistry and an MS in Education. She took her first modeling workshop in 2019 and has been using the Modeling Instruction pedagogy ever since. X  |  BlueSky Highlights [5:02] Beth Burns "Why do we know what we know and do we just trust or do we do some investigations and kind of create that knowledge as we're learning?" [16:03] Beth Burns "I always tell my students, I'm like, when you go off to college and you go on and get a PhD and you discover a better picture of what the atom looks like, you're gonna come back and tell me what it is, and then I'll teach it to my students." Resources Download Transcript Ep 68 Transcript Links [5:22] Building Thinking Classrooms by Peter Liljedhal

Looking to supplement your curriculum with problem based lessons and units? Make Math Moments Problem Based Lessons & UnitsNot sure what matters most when designing math improvement plans? Take this assessment and get a free customized report: https://makemathmoments.com/grow/ Math coordinators and leaders – Ready to design your math improvement plan with guidance, support and using structure? Learn how to follow our 4 stage process. https://growyourmathprogram.com Building Thinking Classrooms is praised for promoting engagement and rich discourse, but is there such a thing as too much BTC? In this episode, we explore both the benefits and the potential pitfalls—yes, students are talking more, but are they thinking more? We discuss concerns like over-reliance on group work, the risk of passive participation, and how easy it can be for students to copy rather than truly engage. Join us as we unpack the nuances of this approach and consider how to find the right balance for your classroom.Key discussion points include:Building Thinking Classrooms fosters engagement, collaboration, and deep mathematical discourse, making it a powerful approach worth considering.Too much emphasis on group work can lead to passive participation, uneven contribution, and students copying rather than thinking.Learn how to implement BTC strategically—balancing structure with flexibility to ensure all students are thinking, not just talking.Explore ways to integrate BTC effectively without losing sight of individual accountability, diverse learning needs, and varied instructional approaches.Show NotesLove the show? Text us your big takeaway! Get a Customized Math Improvement Plan For Your District.Are you district leader for mathematics? Take the 12 minute assessment and you'll get a free, customized improvement plan to shape and grow the 6 parts of any strong mathematics program.Take the assessmentAre you wondering how to create K-12 math lesson plans that leave students so engaged they don't want to stop exploring your math curriculum when the bell rings? In their podcast, Kyle Pearce and Jon Orr—founders of MakeMathMoments.com—share over 19 years of experience inspiring K-12 math students, teachers, and district leaders with effective math activities, engaging resources, and innovative math leadership strategies. Through a 6-step framework, they guide K-12 classroom teachers and district math coordinators on building a strong, balanced math program that grows student and teacher impact. Each week, gain fresh ideas, feedback, and practical strategies to feel more confident and motivate students to see the beauty in math. Start making math moments today by listening to Episode #139: "Making Math Moments From Day 1 to 180.

Engaging students in meaningful thinking and learning is essential for effective education. We explore the principles of creating a thinking classroom with Dr. Peter Liljeddahl, emphasizing the importance of collaboration, purposeful tasks, and a supportive learning environment.What we'll cover...- Discussion of non-thinking behaviors observed in traditional classrooms  - Introduction to the 14 key practices for building thinking classrooms  - Importance of random group formations for collaborative learning  - Strategies for implementing thinking tasks into classroom routines  - The role of teacher-student dynamics in fostering engagement  - Emphasis on valuing mistakes as learning opportunities  - How to incorporate playful and non-curricular tasks into learning  - Insights into Dr. Liljedahl's further resources and booksIf you enjoyed this conversation, be sure to subscribe for more insights on transforming education through innovative practices!About our guest...Dr. Peter Liljedahl is a Professor of Mathematics Education in the Faculty of Education and an associate member in the Department of Mathematics at Simon Fraser University in Vancouver, Canada. Dr. Liljedahl has authored or co-authored 9 books, 26 book chapters, 27 journal articles, and over 50 conference papers. His research interests are creativity, insight, and discovery in mathematics teaching and learning and teacher development. He consults regularly with schools, school districts, and ministries of education on issues of teaching and learning, assessment, and numeracy. Connect with Peter...Building Thinking Classrooms - the book!Got a story to share or question you want us to answer? Send us a message!About the podcastThe KindlED Podcast explores the science of nurturing children's potential and creating empowering learning environments.Powered by Prenda Microschools, each episode offers actionable insights to help you ignite your child's love of learning. We'll dive into evidence-based tools and techniques that kindle young learners' curiosity, motivation, and well-being. Got a burning question?We're all ears! If you have a question or topic you'd love our hosts to tackle, please send it to podcast@prenda.com. Let's dive into the conversation together!Important links:• Connect with us on social • Subscribe to The Sunday Spark• Get our free literacy curriculum Interested in starting a microschool?Prenda provides all the tools and support you need to start and run an amazing microschool. Create a free Prenda World account to start designing your future microschool today. More info at ➡️ Prenda.com or if you're ready to get going ➡️ Start My Microschool

Send us a textWe're back with Part 2 of our conversation with Christi Edwards, where she shares her final two strategies for ensuring students don't just succeed on class assignments but can apply their learning in future assessments and beyond. In this episode, Christi focuses on helping students regulate their own thinking and communicate their ideas effectively—two key skills that build confidence and deeper understanding.Key Topics Covered:How to teach students to self-regulate their thinking so they take ownership of their learning.The importance of in-the-moment reflection, not just after an assignment is complete.Why exit tickets and visual cues (like red, yellow and green cups) help students track their progress.How to encourage students to explain their thinking and engage in meaningful academic conversations.The power of questioning strategies to build deeper understanding and confidence.Resources Mentioned:Self-regulation tools (checklists, journals, anchor charts) to help students monitor their progress.Peter Liljedahl's “Building Thinking Classrooms” strategies for promoting student-driven discussions.Keisha King's episode on classroom discussions for tips on getting students to talk more.Quotable Moments:“Instead of asking students to show their work, ask them to show their thinking.” — Christi Edwards“Reflection shouldn't just happen at the end of an assignment—it needs to happen throughout the learning process.” — Ashley Shaw“A coach's job isn't to give teachers the answers—it's to help them become curious about their own teaching.” — Jason AdairDon't Miss:Ashley's realization: Why she needs to build reflection into her lessons earlier, not just at the end.Christi's exit ticket strategy that helps students assess their own understanding before they leave class.Jason's coaching takeaway: How instructional coaches can spark curiosity in teachers, just like teachers do for students.You can get feedback from Christi by sending us a message through social or email.   The Southern Regional Education Board is a nonprofit, nonpartisan organization that works with states and schools to improve education at every level, from early childhood through doctoral education and the workforce. Follow Us on Social: Facebook Instagram X

Today's episode comes from a listener email about getting buy-in from other teachers to give BTC a try!Have a topic you want me to discuss? Fill out the Google Form! Helpful LinksK Task Bundle1st Grade Task Bundle2nd Grade Task BundleLet's Connect! Email me! lara@makingnumbersensemakesense.comInstagramWebsiteYouTube Channel

Guest: Alyssa Davis, Spectrum Elementary - 5th Grade In this episode, I sit down with Alyssa Davis to explore the power of active math learning strategies, including the transformative approach of Building Thinking Classrooms by Peter Liljedahl. We discuss practical ways to engage students, foster deep mathematical thinking, and create a classroom culture where every learner thrives. Even if you are not a math teacher, tune in for ideas for strategies that can be used in any lesson! Building Thinking Classrooms Online BTC Conferences and Events  

In this episode, we dive into how AI tools like ChatGPT can support teachers in crafting creative and engaging math tasks for Kindergarten, 1st-grade, and 2nd-grade students. While AI can't replace the human magic you bring to your classroom, it can be a great brainstorming partner to help spark ideas, refine tasks, and create meaningful learning experiences.

In this episode, Kyle and Maegan welcome Tammy McMorrow (@TammyMcMorrow / @tammymcmorrow.bsky.social) to discuss her experiences with Building Thinking Classrooms. Tammy shares her journey from discovering the transformative BTC approach in 2021 to implementing it with her first-grade students in Idaho. She talks about the impact of creating a Thinking Classroom including the surprising gains her students have made as mathematicians. The conversation addresses the challenges of managing young learners, adapting BTC practices for primary grades, and the importance of embracing the messy and magical aspects of teaching. Tammy also shares her insights on the thin-slicing technique, the importance of trust in students, and how BTC has changed her approach to student engagement. Listeners will also hear about Tammy's podcast, Little Minds Big Thinkers, where she shares stories from her classroom and interviews with fellow educators.

In this episode Angela and Lisa chat with Mattie McKinney, math teacher at Summers Middle School, who shares her journey from accountant to passionate teacher. A proud Royse City ISD alumni, Mattie reflects on working in her hometown and contributing to the district that shaped her. She discusses how she uses the "Building Thinking Classrooms" model, to encourage discovery-based learning, critical thinking, and student collaboration. Mattie reveals how she creates a supportive classroom culture that encourages productive struggle and helps students grow academically and personally. To learn more about guest, visit our shownotes.

In this episode Angela and Lisa chat with Mattie McKinney, math teacher at Summers Middle School, who shares her journey from accountant to passionate teacher. A proud Royse City ISD alumni, Mattie reflects on working in her hometown and contributing to the district that shaped her. She discusses how she uses the "Building Thinking Classrooms" model, to encourage discovery-based learning, critical thinking, and student collaboration. Mattie reveals how she creates a supportive classroom culture that encourages productive struggle and helps students grow academically and personally. To learn more about guest, visit our shownotes.

Sometimes coming up with a task for Kindergarten is the hardest part! In this episode, I share 7 tasks perfect for your kindergarten classroom in a building-thinking classrooms style! Dive into the world of playful, hands-on math tasks in this episode of Making Number Sense Make Sense! From counting and number writing with the mischievous dogs at Paw-some Pups Playhouse to solving addition problems with a broken cash register in "Cash Out," we'll explore creative ways to engage young learners. Plus, hear how sorting toys, composing shapes, and comparing lengths bring math concepts to life through fun, story-driven activities. Whether you're teaching counting to 20, addition within 10 or 20, or tackling shape challenges, these tasks will have your students excited to learn and eager for more!Have a topic you want me to discuss? Fill out the Google Form!Helpful LinksKindergarten Task BundleKindergarten Task Bundle BlogCounting and Number Writing TaskCash Out Addition Within 10Sorting TaskComposing Shapes TaskComparing Longer and Shorter TaskLet's Connect!InstagramWebsiteYouTube Channel

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In this episode, Jamie and Fabian chat with Dr. Peter Liljedahl, the mind behind Building Thinking Classrooms. Peter shares how his journey into teaching wasn't a childhood dream but a path he stumbled into through coaching, carpentry, and a knack for helping others learn. They dive into how the Thinking Classroom approach works in not just math, but other subjects like social studies and language arts. Finally, Peter leaves us with a recommendation for a portable card game, perfect for life on the road, in our ever popular segment “Whatcha Been Playin'…?, Join @hofmannedu, @mrsjamiehalsey, and @findingmyaloha each week by subscribing to our podcast and rating and reviewing us on Apple Podcasts! Join our Discord on rebelteacheralliance.com or here. Find us on Instagram @rebelteacheralliance, on Twitter @rebelteacherpod, and on TikTok @rebelteacheralliance. Leave us a message here! Things mentioned on the show: - Building Thinking Classrooms - Dr. Liljedahl's book - Monopoly Deal - Monopoly but without the boring parts! - Vändtia - Classic Swedish Card Game --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/rebel-teacher-alliance/support

In this episode, Kyle, Maegan, and Dean welcome back Dr. Peter Liljedahl to discuss his ongoing work and insights in Building Thinking Classrooms. Together, they delve into a range of topics like the recent BTC conference, various strategies for using banners and partitioning student workspaces, and the evolving nature of the Thinking Classrooms practices. Tune in to also hear about the importance of student self-efficacy, identity in math, and the effects of math trauma. Peter highlights ongoing research, shares effective teacher practices, and offers valuable recommendations for further reading and professional development. This episode was recorded in early October, 2024.

Send us a textAre you tired of offering professional development that feels like a box-checking exercise? In this episode, we're diving into how to create standards-based PD that actually works—because your teachers deserve better.I'll share how a focused approach to professional learning, inspired by frameworks like Teach Like a Champion, Get Better Faster, and Building Thinking Classrooms, can empower your teachers to thrive and bring real results to the classroom.You'll learn:How to align PD with teacher and student needs.Practical strategies that teachers can implement immediately.Why follow-up and support are critical for sustained growth.It's time to move beyond cookie-cutter workshops and create professional development that inspires change. Tune in for actionable insights you can use right now to transform your approach to teacher growth.

Learning to teach math teachers better with Dr. Rick Hudson, Chair of Department of Mathematical Sciences at the University of Southern Indiana and Vice President for Professional Learning of the Association of Mathematics Teacher Educators. Listen as he shares his experience and advice on being a mathematics teacher educator and opportunities for learning and growing as an educator through experiences, relationships, and opportunities to serve. Links from the episode Hiebert, J., Carpenter, T. P., & Fennema, E. (1997). Making sense: Teaching and learning mathematics with understanding. Heinemann. Liljedahl, P. (2020). Building Thinking Classrooms in Mathematics, Grades K-12: 14 Teaching Practices for Enhancing Learning. Sage. Hudson, R. A., Mojica, G. F., Lee, H. S., & Casey, S. (2024). Data Moves as a Focusing Lens for Learning to Teach with CODAP. Computers in the Schools, 1–26. https://doi.org/10.1080/07380569.2024.241170 ESTEEM: Enhancing Data Science and Statistics Teacher Education with E-Modules (https://research.ced.ncsu.edu/esteemhub/) CODAP (https://codap.concord.org/?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiAmMC6BhA6EiwAdN5iLcvCvJ1peMzqlzOA6fFWP3kbfZDMbbQePmfRpJAuVIoqFNhkno9paBoC-NgQAvD_BwE) Modern Math Tasks to Provoke Transformational Thinking Grades 3-5 (https://www.nctm.org/Store/Products/Modern-Math-Tasks-to-Provoke-Transformational-Thinking,-Grades-3-5/) Modern Math Tasks to Provoke Transformational Thinking Grades 9-12 (https://www.nctm.org/Store/Products/Modern-Math-Tasks-to-Provoke-Transformational-Thinking,-Grades-9-12/) Association of Mathematics Teacher Educator Links 2025 Conference Website (https://amte.net/content/2025-annual-amte-conference) Volunteer Form (https://amte.net/form/volunteer) Giving Link (https://amte.net/support-amte) Mathematics Teacher Educator Podcast (https://mtepodcast.amte.net/) Special Guest: Rick Hudson.

Get ready to relive the timeless warmth of Peanuts as we celebrate Good Grief Day! We share personal stories and fond memories from iconic Peanuts TV specials, discussing the often hapless yet charming Charlie Brown and his interactions with friends like Lucy and Snoopy. Join us for part 2 of our conversation with Dr. Peter Liljedahl, who brings groundbreaking insights into Building Thinking Classrooms. Through the lens of his new book, explore innovative strategies like thin slicing tasks and their integration with CPM to foster student learning. To connect with Dr Liljedahl on X: @pgliljedahlSend Joel and Misty a message!The More Math for More People Podcast is produced by CPM Educational Program. Learn more at CPM.orgX: @cpmmathFacebook: CPMEducationalProgramEmail: cpmpodcast@cpm.org

After a bit of a break from the podcast, we're back with a new episode (and more to come)! In this episode, Dean, Maegan, and Kyle reintroduce themselves and share updates on their current roles and endeavors. They delve into their experiences with the Thinking Classroom model across various grade levels, discussing both the successes and challenges they've encountered. Maegan highlights her work with younger students and her focus on enriching mathematical experience, while Dean shares his high school teaching journey, emphasizing innovative assessment strategies. Kyle reflects on his new role focused on facilitating BTC professional development and the importance of staying connected to classroom realities. They also share highlights and takeaways from their recent participation in the Building Thinking Classrooms conference in Phoenix, which brought together passionate educators and offered valuable insights. Links Mentioned: ⁠Podcast Survey - have your say!⁠ ⁠Visual Patterns⁠ ⁠Kaktovik Number System⁠ (⁠@BurdessAlicia⁠) Building Thinking Classrooms 2024 (SAPDC) (BTC Intro Course lead by Kyle) Assessment & What's New in Thinking Classrooms (SAPDC) (BTC Assessment Course lead by Kyle) ⁠Building Thinking Classrooms 2025 Annual Conference⁠

This #coachbetter episode is another in our series of coaching case studies, with one of Kim's amazing clients, Kelly Esposito, K12 Instructional Coach at Phoenixville School District in Pennsylvania USA. Kelly is a graduate of The Coach Certificate and Mentorship Program, and Kim's been working with Kelly (and the rest of the coaching team at her school in Pennsylvania) for several years. These case study episodes are designed to share the story of a coach, and the development of their coaching program and practice in their unique setting.   In this conversation they talk about...  What coaching looks like in Kelly's school setting right now How her role has, and the coaching program at PASD has, evolved over the years A big “aha” moment Kelly had in The Coach around equity and math instruction The success of implementing Building Thinking Classrooms at PASD How she's refining her practice over this academic year What she wish she knew when she started coaching This episode is a fantastic example of how successful instructional coaches are always intentional about growing their skills and refining their practice over time. Find the show notes for this episode here.

This edWeb podcast is sponsored by The Modern Classrooms Project.The webinar recording can be accessed here.Building Thinking Classrooms in Mathematics by Peter Liljedahl has taken the mathematics education world by storm for its innovative pedagogical approach transforming classrooms into thinking classrooms.For an educator starting to build or already has the blended, self-paced, and mastery-based learning structures in place, the thought of integrating additional strategies can feel daunting and redundant. So why should an educator implement building thinking classrooms practices? If so, how are the practices best applied in a student-centered classroom?This edWeb podcast dives into the what, why, and how of implementing building thinking classrooms practices within the blended, self-paced, mastery-based learning structures of a blended, self-paced, and mastery-based learning.We explore:The 14 elements and 4 implementation toolkits of Building Thinking Classrooms in Mathematics by Peter LiljedahlThe rationale for instructional pedagogy that balances collaborative and independent learning to support deeper learningPractical integration of building thinking classrooms practices in a blended, self-paced, mastery-based learning structureWhen the practices can be implementedHow to scaffold implementation efficacy through the four toolkitsWhat a teacher can do to start tomorrowDiscover how to bring the best of two worlds together for the benefit of student learning. Leave with actionable steps to integrate building thinking classroom practices in your classroom! This edWeb podcast is of interest to teachers, school leaders, district leaders, and education technology leaders of all grade levels.The Modern Classrooms ProjectMeet every student's needs with classroom-tested techniques that help every student truly learn. Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Learn more about viewing live edWeb presentations and on-demand recordings, earning CE certificates, and using accessibility features.

Toni Rose is joined by Don Allen to talk about his journey from the classroom into school and district leadership positions, and the philosophy and approaches to education that guided him along the way. Show Notes The Pygmalion Effect (https://kb.ndsu.edu/page.php?id=131858) "Grading for Equity" (https://crescendoedgroup.org/grading-for-equity/) by Joe Feldman Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow%27s_hierarchy_of_needs) Building Thinking Classrooms (https://www.buildingthinkingclassrooms.com) Universal Design for Learning (https://udlguidelines.cast.org) (UDL) "Community: The Structure of Belonging (https://www.peterblock.com/books/community-the-structure-of-belonging-2nd-edition/)," by Peter Block "Constructivism: Theory, Perspectives, and Practice (https://www.amazon.com/Constructivism-Perspectives-Catherine-Twomey-Fosnot/dp/0807745707)", by Catherine Twomey Fosnot "Linguistics for Writers (https://sunypress.edu/Books/L/Linguistics-for-Writers2)," by Coleen Donnelly "The Best We Could Do (https://www.arts.gov/initiatives/nea-big-read/best-we-could-do-illustrated-memoir)," by Thi Bui "I Won't Learn From You: And Other Thoughts on Creative Maladjustment (https://www.amazon.com/Wont-Learn-You-Thoughts-Maladjustment/dp/1565840968)," by Herbert Kohl Learning Experiences for the Upcoming Week Our Back to School Toolkit is out and ready for you! For this year, we focused on communicating to caregivers and stakeholders all about blended, self-paced, mastery-based learning. Download here (https://www.modernclassrooms.org/toolkit/back-to-school-24) Have you always wanted a community to read books with? We are hosting a book club with ScreenPal and Kami starting at the end of this month. The community has chosen to read UDL & Blended Learning by Katie Novak and Catlin Tucker. Join us in this 10-week community of practice to learn with and from educators across the country, receive Premium access to both ScreenPal and Kami, and deepen your understanding of UDL and blended learning. Register here (https://www.modernclassrooms.org/book-club) Want to learn more about how to use AI to create self-paced lessons for you. Join us in this 30-minute info webinar with TeachFlows on Tuesday, September 17, 6pm ET. Register here (https://modernclassrooms.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_ZHnhS7AnQtKpxXT1njP5Vw) Contact us, follow us online, and learn more: Email us questions and feedback at: podcast@modernclassrooms.org (mailto:podcast@modernclassrooms.org) Listen to this podcast on Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1SQEZ54ptj1ZQ3bV5tEcULSyPttnifZV) Modern Classrooms: @modernclassproj (https://twitter.com/modernclassproj) on Twitter and facebook.com/modernclassproj (https://www.facebook.com/modernclassproj) Kareem: @kareemfarah23 (https://twitter.com/kareemfarah23) on Twitter Toni Rose: @classroomflex (https://twitter.com/classroomflex) on Twitter and Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/classroomflex/?hl=en) The Modern Classroom Project (https://www.modernclassrooms.org) Modern Classrooms Online Course (https://learn.modernclassrooms.org) Take our free online course, or sign up for our mentorship program to receive personalized guidance from a Modern Classrooms mentor as you implement your own modern classroom! The Modern Classrooms Podcast is edited by Zach Diamond: @zpdiamond (https://twitter.com/zpdiamond) on Twitter and Learning to Teach (https://www.learningtoteach.co/) Special Guest: Don Allen.

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Rounding Up Season 3 | Episode 1 – Grouping Practices That Promote Efficacy and Knowledge Transfer Guest: Dr. Peter Liljedahl Mike Wallus: We know from research that student collaboration can have a powerful impact on learning. That said, how we group students for collaboration matters—a lot. Today we're talking with Dr. Peter Liljedahl, author of “Building Thinking Classrooms in Mathematics,” about how educators can form productive, collaborative groups in their classrooms. Mike: Hello, Peter. Welcome to the podcast. Peter Liljedahl: Thanks for having me. Mike: So, to offer our listeners some background, you've written a book, called “Building Thinking Classrooms in Mathematics,” and I think it's fair to say that it's had a pretty profound impact on many educators. In the book, you address 14 different practices. And I'm wondering if you could weigh in on how you weigh the importance of the different practices that you addressed? Peter: Well, OK, so, first of all, 14 is a big number that publishers don't necessarily like. When we first started talking with Corwin about this, they were very open. But I know if you think about books, if there's going to be a number in the title, the number is usually three, five or seven. It's sometimes eight—but 14 is a ridiculous number. They can't all be that valuable. What's important about the fact that it's 14, is that 14 is the number of core practices that every teacher does. That's not to say that there aren't more or less for some teachers, but these are core routines that we all do. We all use tasks. We all create groups for collaboration. We all have the students work somewhere. We all answer questions. We do homework, we assign notes, we do formative, summative assessment. We do all of these things. We consolidate lessons. We launch lessons. Peter: These are sort of the building blocks of what makes our teaching. And through a lot of time in classrooms, I deduced this list of 14. Robert Kaplinsky, in one of his blog posts, actually said that he thinks that that list of 14 probably accounts for 95 percent of what happens in classrooms. And my research was specifically about, “How do we enact each of those 14 so that we can maximize student thinking? So, what kind of tasks get students to think, how can we create groups so that more thinking happens? How can we consolidate a lesson so we get more thinking? How can we do formative and summative assessments so the students are thinking more?” So, the book is about responding to those 14 core routines and the research around how to enact each of those to maximize thinking. Your question around which one is, “How do we put weight on each of these?” Peter: They're all important. But, of course, they're not all equally impactful. Building thinking classrooms is most often recognized visually as the thing where students are standing at whiteboards working. And, of course, that had a huge impact on student engagement and thinking in the classroom, getting them from sitting and working at desks to getting them working at whiteboards. But in my opinion, it's not the most impactful. It is hugely impactful, but the one that actually makes all of thinking classroom function is how we form collaborative groups, which is chapter two. And it seems like that is such an inconsequential thing. “We've been doing groups for forever, and we got this figured out. We know how to do this. But … do we really? Do we really have it figured out?” Because my research really showed that if we want to get students thinking, then the ways we've been doing it aren't working. Mike: I think that's a great segue. And I want to take a step back, Peter. Before we talk about grouping, I want to ask what might be an obvious question. But I wonder if we can talk about the “why” behind collaboration. How would you describe the value or the potential impact of collaboration on students' learning experiences? Peter: That's a great question. We've been doing collaborative work for decades. And by and large, we see that it is effective. We have data that shows that it's effective. And when I say “we,” I don't mean me or the people I work with. I mean “we, in education,” know that collaboration is important. But why? What is it about collaboration that makes it effective? There are a lot of different things. It could be as simple as it breaks the monotony of having to sit and listen. But let's get into some really powerful things that collaboration does. Number one, about 25 years ago, we all were talking about metacognition. We know that metacognition is so powerful and so effective, and if we get students thinking about their thinking, then their thinking actually improves. And metacognition has been shown time and time again to be impactful in learning. Some of the listeners might be old enough to remember the days where we were actually trying to teach students to be metacognitive, and the frustration that that created because it is virtually impossible. Peter: Being reflective about your thinking while you're thinking is incredibly hard to do because it requires you to be both present and reflective at the same time. We're pretty good at being present, and we're pretty good about reflecting on our experiences. But to do both simultaneously is incredibly hard to do. And to teach someone to do it is difficult. But I think we've also all had that experience where a student puts up their hand, and you start walking over to them, and just as you get there, they go, “Never mind.” Or they pick up their book, and they walk over to you, and just as they get to you, they just turn around and walk back. I used to tell my students that they're smarter when they're closer to me. But what's really going on there is, as they've got their hand up, or as they're walking across the room toward you as a teacher, they're starting to formulate their thoughts to ask a question. Peter: They're preparing to externalize their thinking. And that is an incredibly metacognitive process. One of the easiest forms of metacognition, and one of the easiest ways to access metacognition, is just to have students collaborate. Collaborating requires students to talk. It requires them to organize their thoughts. It requires them to prepare their thinking and to think about their thinking for the purposes of externalization. It is an incredibly accessible way of creating metacognition in your classroom, which we already know is effective. So, that's one reason I think collaboration is really, really vital. Peter: Another one comes from the work on register. So, register is the level of sophistication with which we speak about something. So, if I'm in a classroom, and I'm talking to kindergarten students, I set a register that is accessible to them. When I talk to my undergraduates, I use a different register. My master's students, my Ph.D. students, my colleagues, I'm using different registers. I can be talking about the same thing, but the level of sophistication with which I'm going to talk about those things varies depending on the audience. And as much as possible, we try to vary our register to suit the audience we have. But I think we've also all had that instructor who's completely incapable of varying their register, the one who just talks at you as if you're a third-year undergraduate when you're really a Great Eight student. And the ability to vary our register to a huge degree is going to define what makes us successful as a teacher. Can we meet our learners where they're at? Can we talk to them from the perspective that they're at? Now we can work at it, and very adept teachers are good at it. But even the best teachers are not as good at getting their register to be the same as students. Peter: So, this is another reason collaboration is so effective. It allows students to talk and be talked to at their register, which is the most accessible form of communication for them. And I think the third reason that collaboration is so important is the difference between what I talk in my book about the difference between absolute and tentative knowledge. So, I'm going to make two statements. You tell me which one is more inviting to add a comment to. So, statement number one is, “This is how to do it, or this is what I did.” That's statement number one. Statement number two is, “I think that one of the ways that we may want to try, I'm wondering if this might work.” Which one is more inviting for you to contribute to? Mike: Yes, statement number two, for many, many reasons, as I'm sitting here thinking about the impact of those two different language structures. Peter: So, as teachers, we tend to talk in absolutes. The absolute communication doesn't give us anything to hold onto. It's not engaging. It's not inviting. It doesn't bring us into the conversation. It's got no rough patches—it's just smooth. But when that other statement is full of hedging, it's tentative. It's got so many rough patches, so many things to contribute to, things I want to add to, maybe push back at or push further onto. And that's how students talk to each other. When you put them in collaborative groups, they talk in tentative discourse, whereas teachers, we tend to talk in absolutes. So, students are always talking to each other like that. When we put them in collaborative groups, they're like, “Well, maybe we should try this. I'm wondering if this'll work. Hey, have we thought about this? I wonder if?” And it's so inviting to contribute to. Mike: That's fascinating. I'm going to move a little bit and start to focus on grouping. So, in the book, you looked really closely at the way that we group students for collaborative problem-solving and how that impacts the way students engage in a collaborative effort. And I'm wondering if you could talk a little bit about the type of things that you were examining. Peter: OK. So, you don't have to spend a lot of time in classrooms before you see the two dominant paradigms for grouping. So, the first one we tend to see a lot at elementary school. So, that one is called “strategic grouping.” Strategic grouping is where the teacher has a goal, and then they're going to group their students to satisfy that goal. So, maybe my goal is to differentiate, so I'm going to make ability groups. Or maybe my goal is to increase productivity, so I'm going to make mixed-ability groups. Or maybe my goal is to just have peace and quiet, so I'm going to keep those certain students apart. Whatever my goal is, I'm going to create the groups to try to achieve that goal, recognizing that how students behave in the classroom has a lot to do with who they're partnered with. So that's strategic grouping. It is the dominant grouping paradigm we see in elementary school. Peter: By the time we get to high school, we tend to see more of teachers going, “Work with who you want.” This is called “self-selected groupings.” And this is when students are given the option to group themselves any way they want. And alert: They don't group themselves for academic reasons, they group themselves for social reasons. And I think every listener can relate to both of those forms of grouping. It turns out that both of those are highly ineffective at getting students to think. And ironically, for the exact same reason. We surveyed hundreds of students who were in these types of grouping settings: strategic grouping or self-selected groupings. We asked one question, “If you knew you were going to work in groups today, what is the likelihood you would offer an idea?” That was it. And 80 percent of students said that they were unlikely or highly unlikely to offer an idea, and that was the exact same, whether they were in strategic groupings or self-selected groupings. The data cut the same. Mike: That's amazing, Peter. Peter: Yeah, and it's for the same reason it turns out; that whether students were being grouped strategically or self-selected, they already knew what their role was that day. They knew what was expected of them. And for 80 percent of the students, their role is not to think. It's not to lead. Their role is to follow, right? And that's true whether they're grouping themselves socially, where they already know the social hierarchy of this group, or they're being grouped strategically. We interviewed hundreds of students. And after grade 3, every single student could tell us why they were in the group this teacher placed them in. They know. They know what you think of them. You're communicating very clearly what you think their abilities are through the way you group them, and then they live down to that expectation. So, that's what we were seeing in classrooms was that strategic grouping may be great at keeping the peace. And self-selected grouping may be fabulous for getting students to stop whining about collaboration. But neither of them was effective for getting students to think. In fact, they were quite the opposite. They were highly ineffective for getting students to think. Mike: So, I want to keep going with this. And I think one of the things that stood out for me as I was reading is, this notion that regardless of the rationale that a teacher might have for grouping, there's almost always a mismatch between what the teacher's goals are and what the student's goals are. I wonder if you could just unpack this and maybe explain this a bit more. Peter: So, when you do strategic grouping, do you really think the students are with the students that they want to be with? One of the things that we saw happening in elementary school was that strategic grouping is difficult. It takes a lot of effort to try to get the balance right. So, what we saw was teachers largely doing strategic grouping once a month. They would put students into a strategic group, and they would keep them in that group for the entire month. And the kids care a lot about who they're with, when you're going to be in a group for a month. And do you think they were happy with everybody that was in that group? If I'm going to be with a group of students for a month, I'd rather pick those students myself. So, they're not happy. You've created strategic groupings. And, by definition, a huge part of strategic grouping is keeping kids who want to be together away from each other. Peter: They're not happy with that. Self-selected groupings, the students are not grouping themselves for academic reasons. They're just grouping themselves for social reasons so that they can socialize, so they talk, so they can be off topic, and all of these things. And yes, they're not complaining about group work, but they're also not being productive. So, the students are happy. But do you think the teacher's happy? Do you think the teacher looks out across that room and goes, “Yeah, there were some good choices made there.” No, nobody's happy, right? If I'm grouping them strategically, that's not matching their goals. That's not matching their social goals. When they're grouping themselves in self-selected ways, that's matching their social goals but not matching my academic goals for them. So, there's always going to be this mismatch. The teacher, more often than not, has academic goals. The students, more often than not, have social goals. There are some overlaps, right? There are students who are like, “I'm not happy with this group. I know I'm not going to do well in this group. I'm not going to be productive.” And there are some teachers who are going, “I really need this student to come out of the shell, so I need to get them to socialize more.” But other than that, by and large, our goals as teachers are academic in nature. The goals as students are social in nature. Mike: I think one of the biggest takeaways from your work on grouping, for me at least, was the importance of using random groups. And I have to admit, when I read that there was a part of me thinking back to my days as a first-grade teacher that felt a little hesitant. As I read, I came to think about that differently. But I'm wondering if you can talk about why random groups matter, the kind of impact that they have on the collaborative experience and the learning experience for kids. Peter: Alright, so going back to the previous question. So, we have this mismatch. And we have also that 80 percent of students are not thinking; 80 percent of students are entering into that group, not prepared to offer an idea. So those are the two problems that we're trying to address here. So, random groups … random wasn't good enough. It had to be visibly random. The students had to see the randomness because when we first tried it, we said, “Here's your random groups.” They didn't believe we were being random. They just thought we were being strategic. So, it has to be visibly random, and it turns out it has to be frequent as well. About once every 45 to 75 minutes. See, when students are put into random groups, they don't know what their role is. So, we're solving this problem. They don't know what their role is. When we started doing visibly random groups frequently, within three weeks we were running that same survey. Peter: “If you know you're going to work in groups today, what is the likelihood you would offer an idea?” Remember the baseline data was that 80 percent of students said that they were unlikely or highly unlikely, and, all of a sudden, we have a hundred percent of students saying that they're likely or highly likely. That was one thing that it solved. It shifted this idea that students were now entering groups willing to offer an idea, and that's despite 50 percent of them saying, “It probably won't lead to a solution, but I'm going to offer an idea.” Now why is that? Because they don't know what their role is. So, right on the surface, what random groups does, is it shatters this idea of preconceived roles and then preconceived behaviors. So, now they enter the groups willing to offer an idea, willing to be a contributor, not thinking that their role is just to follow. But there's a time limit to this because within 45 to 75 minutes, they're going to start to fall into roles. Peter: In that first 45 minutes, the roles are constantly negotiated. They're dynamic. So, one student is being the leader, and the others are being the follower. And now, someone else is a leader, the others are following. Now everyone is following. They need some help from some external source. Now everyone is leading. We've got to resolve that. But there is all of this dynamicism and negotiation going on around the roles. But after 45 to 75 minutes, this sort of stabilizes and now you have sort of a leader and followers, and that's when we need to randomize again so that the roles are dynamic and that the students aren't falling into sort of predefined patterns of non-thinking behavior. Mike: I think this is fascinating because we've been doing some work internally at MLC around this idea of status or the way that … the stories that kids tell about one another or the labels that kids carry either from school systems or from the community that they come from, and how those things are subtle. They're unspoken, but they often play a role in classroom dynamics in who gets called on. What value kids place on a peer's idea if it is shared. What you're making me think is there's a direct line between this thing that we've been thinking about and what happens in small groups as well. Peter: Yeah, for sure. So, you mentioned status. I want to add to that identity and self-efficacy and so on and so forth. One of the interesting pieces of data that came out of the research into random groups was, we were interviewing students several weeks into this. And we were asking them questions around this, and the students were saying things like, “Oh, the teacher thinks we're all the same, otherwise they wouldn't do random groups. The teacher thinks we're all capable, otherwise they wouldn't do random groups.” So, what we're actually talking about here is that we're starting—just simply through random groups—to have a positive impact on student self-efficacy. One of the things that came out of this work, that I wrote about in a separate paper, was that we've known for a long time that student self-efficacy has a huge impact on student performance. But how do we increase, how do we improve student self-efficacy? Peter: There are a whole bunch of different ways. The work of Bandura on this is absolutely instrumental. But it comes down to a couple of things. From a classroom teacher perspective, the first thing, in order for a student to start on this journey from low self-efficacy to high self-efficacy, they have to encounter a teacher who believes in them. Except students don't listen to what we say. They listen to what we do. So, simply telling our students that we have confidence in them doesn't actually have much impact. It's how we show them that we have confidence in them. And it turns out that random groups actually have a huge impact on that. By doing the random groups, we're actually showing the kids that we believe in them and then they start to internalize this. So that's one thing. The work of Bandura about how we can start to shift student self-efficacy through mastery experiences, where they start to, for example, be successful at something. And that starts to have an impact that is amplified when students start to be successful in front of others, when they are the ones who are contributing in a small group. And that group is now successful. And that success is linked in some small or great part to your contributions; that self-efficacy is amplified because not only am I being successful, I'm being successful in a safe environment, but in front of others. Peter: Now, self-efficacy contributes to identity, and identity has an interesting relationship with status. And you mentioned status. So, self-efficacy is what I think of myself. Status is what others think of me. I can't control my status. I can't shift my status. Status is something that is bestowed on me by others. And, of course, it's affected by their interactions with me in collaborative spaces. So, how they get to see me operate is going to create a status for me, on me, by others. But the status gets to be really nicely evenly distributed in thinking classrooms when we're doing these random groups because everybody gets to be seen as capable. They all get to be someone who can be mathematical and someone who can contribute mathematically. Mike: I want to shift back for a moment to this idea of visibly random groups. This idea that for kids, they need to believe that it's not just a strategic grouping that I've called random for the sake of the moment. What are some of the ways that you've seen teachers visibly randomize their groups so that kids really could see the proof was right out there in front of them? Peter: So, we first started with just cards. So, we got 27 kids. We're going to use playing cards, we're going to have three aces, three 2S, three 3s, three 4s, and so on. We would just shuffle the deck, and the kids would come and take a card. And if you're a 4, you would go to the board that has a 4 on it. Or maybe that fourth 4 is there, so to speak. We learned a whole bunch of things. It has to be visible. And however way we do it, the randomization doesn't just tell them what group they're in, it tells them where to go. That's an efficiency thing. You don't want kids walking around the classroom looking for their partners and then spending 5 minutes deciding where they want to work. Take a card, you got a 7, you go to the 7 board. You got an ace, you go to the ace board. Peter: And that worked incredibly well. Some teachers already had Popsicle sticks in their classroom, so they started using those: Popsicle sticks with students' names. So, they would pull three Popsicle sticks and they would say, “OK, these students are together. These students are together.” At first, we didn't see any problems with that. That seemed to be pretty isomorphic … to using a playing card. Some teachers got frustrated with the cards because with a card, sometimes what happens is that they get ripped or torn or they don't come back. Or they come back, and they're sweaty or they're hot. And it's like, “OK, where were you keeping this card? I don't want to know. It's hot, it's dirty.” They got ink on it. The cards don't come back. The kids are swapping cards. And teachers were frustrated by this. So, they started using digital randomizers, things like Flippity and ClassDojo and Picker Wheel and Team Shake and Team Maker. Peter: There were tons of these digital randomizers, and they all work pretty much the same. But there was a bit of a concern that the students may not perceive the randomness as much in these methods. And you can amplify that by, for example, bringing in a fuzzy [die], a big one, and somebody gets to roll it. And if a 5 comes up, they get to come up and hit the randomized button five times. And now there's a greater perception of randomness that's happening. With Flippity, that turns out actually it'd be true. Turns out that the first randomization is not purely random, and the kids spot that pattern. And we thought, “OK, perfect. That's fine. As long as the students perceive it's random, that it is truly random, that the teacher isn't somehow hacking this so that they are able to impose their own bias into this space.” So, it's seemingly random, but not purely random. And everything was running fine until about six to eight months ago. I was spending a lot of time in classrooms. I think in the last 14 months I've been in 144 different classrooms, co-teaching or teaching. So, I was spending a lot of time in classrooms, and for efficiency's sake, a lot of these teachers were using digital randomizers. And then I noticed something. It had always been there, but I hadn't noticed it. This is the nature of research. It's also the nature of just being a fly on the wall, or someone who's observing a classroom or a teacher. There's so much to notice we can't notice it all. So, we notice the things that are obvious. The more time we spend in spaces, the more nuanced things we're able to notice. And about six to eight months ago, I noticed something that, like I said, has always been there, but I had never really noticed it. Peter: Teacher hits a randomized button, and all the students are standing there watching, waiting for the randomized groups to appear on the screen. And then somebody goes, “Ugh.” It's so small. Or somebody laughs. Or somebody's like, “Nooo.” And it's gone. It's in a moment, it's gone. Sometimes others snicker about it, but it's gone. It's a flash. And it's always been there, and you think it's not a big deal. Turns out it's a huge deal because this is a form of micro-bullying. This is what I call it, “micro-bullying.” Because when somebody goes, “Ugh,” everybody in the room knows who said it. And looking at the screen, they know who they said it about. And this student, themself, knows who said it, and they know that they're saying it about them. And what makes this so much worse than other overt forms of bullying is that they also are keenly aware that everybody in the room just witnessed and saw this happen, including the teacher. Peter: And it cuts deeply. And the only thing that makes bullying worse is when bullying happens in front of someone who's supposed to protect you, and they don't; not because we're evil, but because it's so short, it's so small, it's over in a flash. We don't really see the magnitude of this. But this has deep psychological effects and emotional effects on these students. Not just that they know that this person doesn't like them. But they know that everybody knows that they don't like them. And then what happens on the second day? The second day, whoever's got that student, that victimized student in their group, when the randomization happens, they also go, “Ugh,” because this has become acceptable now. This is normative. Within a week, this student might be completely ostracized. And it's just absolutely normal to sort of hate on this one student. Peter: It's just not worth it. It cuts too deeply. Now you can try to stop it. You can try to control it, but good luck, right? I've seen teachers try to say, “OK, that's it. You're not allowed to say anything when the randomization happens. You're not allowed to cheer, you're not allowed to grunt, you're not allowed to groan, you're not allowed to laugh. All you can do is go to your boards.” Then they hit the random, and immediately you hear someone go, “Ugh.” And they'll look at them, and the student will go, “What? That's how I breathe.” Or “I stubbed my toe where I thought of something funny.” It's virtually impossible to shut it down because it's such a minor thing. But seemingly minor. In about 50 percent of elementary classrooms that I'm in, where a teacher uses that digital randomizer, you don't hear it. But 50 percent you do. Almost 100 percent of high school classrooms I'm in you hear some sort of grunt or groan or complaint. Peter: It's not worth it. Just buy more cards. Go to the casino, get free cards. Go to the dollar store, get them cheap. It's just not worth it. Now, let's get back to the Popsicle stick one. It actually has the same effect. “I'm going to pull three names. I'm going to read out which three names there are, and I'm going to drop them there.” And somebody goes, “Ugh.” But why does this not happen with cards? It doesn't happen with cards because when you take that card, you don't know what group you're in. You don't know who else is in your group. All you know is where to go. You take that card, you don't know who else is in your group. There's no grunting, groaning, laughing, snickering. And then when you do get to the group, there might be someone there that you don't like working with. So, the student might go, “Ugh.” But now there's no audience to amplify this effect. And because there's no audience, more often than not, they don't bother going, “Ugh.” Go back to the cards, people. The digital randomizers are fast and efficient, but they're emotionally really traumatizing. Mike: I think that's a really subtle but important piece for people who are thinking about doing this for the first time. And I appreciate the way that you described the psychological impact on students and the way that using the cards engineers less of the audience than the randomizer [do]. Peter: Yeah, for sure. Mike: Well, let's shift a little bit and just talk about your recommendations for group size, particularly students in kindergarten through second grade as opposed to students in third grade through fifth grade. Can you talk about your recommendations and what are the things that led you to them? Peter: First of all, what led to it? It was just so clear, so obvious. The result was that groups of three were optimal. And that turned out to be true every setting, every grade. There are some caveats to that, and I'll talk about that in a minute. But groups of three were obvious. We saw this in the data almost immediately. Every time we had groups of three, we heard three voices. Every time we heard groups of four, we heard three voices. When we had groups of five, we heard two voices on task, two voices off task, and one voice was silent. Groups of three were just that sort of perfect, perfect group size. It took a long time to understand why. And the reason why comes from something called “complexity theory.” Complexity theory tells us that in order for a group to be productive, it has to have a balance between diversity and redundancy. Peter: So, redundancy is the things that are the same. We need redundancy. We need things like common language, common notation, common vocabulary, common knowledge. We need to have things in common in order for the collaboration to even start. But if all we have is redundancy, then the group is no better than the individual. We also have to have diversity. Diversity is what every individual brings to the group that's different. And the thing that happens is, when the group sizes get larger, the diversity goes up, but redundancy goes down. And that's bad. And when the group sizes get smaller, the redundancy goes up, but the diversity goes down. And that's bad. Groups of three seem to have this perfect balance of redundancy and diversity. It was just the perfect group size. And if you reflect on groups that you've done in your settings, whatever that setting was, you'll probably start to recognize that groups of three were always more effective than groups of four. Peter: But we learned some other things. We learned that in K–2, for example, groups of three were still optimal, but we had to start with groups of two. Why? Because very young children don't know how to collaborate yet. They come to school in kindergarten, they're still working in what we call “parallel,” which means that they'll happily stand side by side at a whiteboard with their own marker and work on their own things side by side. They're working in parallel. Eventually, we move them to a state that we call “polite turn-taking.” Polite turn-taking is we can have two students working at a whiteboard sharing one marker, but they're still working independently. So, “It's now your turn and you're working on your thing, and now it's my turn, I'm working on my thing.” Eventually, we get them to a state of collaboration. And collaboration is defined as “when what one student says or does affects what the other student says or does.” Peter: And now we have collaboration happening. Very young kids don't come to school naturally able to collaborate. I've been in kindergarten classrooms in October where half the groups are polite turn-taking, and half the groups are collaborating. It is possible to accelerate them toward that state. But I've also been in grade 2 classrooms in March where the students are still working in parallel or turn-taking. We need to work actively at improving the collaboration that's actually happening. Once collaboration starts to happen in those settings, we nurtured for a while and then we move to groups of three. So, I can have kindergartens by the end of the year working in groups of three, but I can't assume that grade 2s can do it at the beginning of the year. It has a lot to do with the explicit efforts that have been made to foster collaboration in the classroom. And having students sit side by side and pair desks does not foster collaboration. It fosters parallel play. Peter: So, we always say that “K–2, start with groups of two, see where their level of collaboration is, nurture that work on it, move toward groups of three.” The other setting that we had to start in groups of two were alternate ed settings. Not because the kids can't collaborate, but because they don't trust yet. They don't trust in the process in the educational setting. We have to nurture that. Once they start to trust in working in groups of two, we can move to groups of three. But the data was clear on this. So, if you have a classroom, and let's say you're teaching grade 6, and you don't have a perfect multiple of three, what do you do? You make some groups of two. So, rather than groups of four, make some groups of two. Keep those groups of two close to each other so that they may start to collaborate together. Peter: And that was one of the ironies of the research: If I make a group of four, it's a Dumpster fire. If I make two groups of two and put them close to each other, and they start to talk to each other, it works great. You start with groups of two. So, having some extra groups of two is handy if you're teaching in high school or any grade, to be honest. But let's say you have 27 students on your roster, but only 24 are there. There's going to be this temptation to make eight groups of three. Don't do it. Make nine groups, have a couple of groups of two. Because the minute you get up and running, someone's going to walk in late. And then when they walk in late, it's so much easier to plug them into a group of two than to have them waiting for another person to come along so that they can pair them or to make a group of four. Mike: Yeah, that makes sense. Before we close, Peter, I want to talk about two big ideas that I really wish I would've understood more clearly when I was still in the classroom. What I'm thinking about are the notion of crossing social boundaries and then also the concept of knowledge mobility. And I'm wondering if you could talk about each of them in turn and talk about how they relate to one another. Peter: Certainly. So, when we make our groups, when we make groups, groups are very discreet. I think this comes from that sort of strategic grouping, or even self-selected groupings where the groups are really separate from each other. There are very well-defined boundaries around this group, and everything that happens, happens inside that group, and nothing happens between groups. In fact, as teachers, we often encourage that, and we're like, “No, do your own work in your group. Don't be talking to the other groups.” Because the whole purpose of doing strategic groups is to keep certain kids away from each other, and that creates a very non-permeable boundary between the groups. But what if we can make these boundaries more porous, and so that knowledge actually starts to flow between the groups. This is what's called “knowledge mobility,” the idea that we don't actually want the knowledge to be fixed only inside of a group. Peter: The smartest person in the room is the room. We got to get that knowledge moving around the room. It's not groups, it's groups among groups. So, how can we get what one group is achieving and learning to move to another group that's maybe struggling? And this is called “knowledge mobility.” The easiest way to increase this is we have the students working at vertical whiteboards. Working at vertical whiteboards creates a space where passive knowledge mobility is really easy to do. It's really easy to look over your shoulder and see what another group is doing and go, “Oh, let's try that. They made a table of values. Let's make a table of values. Or they've done a graph, or they drew a picture” or whatever. “We'll steal an idea.” And that idea helps us move forward. And that passive can also lead to more active, where it's like, “I wonder what they're doing over there?” Peter: And then you go and talk to them, and the teacher can encourage this. And both of these things really help with mobilizing knowledge, and that's what we want. We don't want the only source of knowledge to be the teacher. Knowledge is everywhere. Let's get that moving around the room within groups, between groups, between students. And that's not to say that the students are copying. We're not encouraging copying. And if you set the environment up right, they don't copy. They're not going to copy. They'll steal an idea, “Oh, let's organize our stuff into a table of values,” and then it's back to their own board and working on that. And the other way that we help make these boundaries more porous is by breaking down the social barriers that exist within a classroom. All classrooms have social barriers. They could be gender, race. They could be status-based. Peter: There are so many things that make up the boundaries that exist within classrooms. There are these social structures that exist in schools. And one of the things that random groups does is it breaks down these social barriers because we're putting students together that wouldn't normally be together. And our data really reveals just how much that happens; that after three weeks, the students are coming in, they're socializing with different students, students that hadn't been part of their social structure before. They're sitting together outside of class. I see this at the university where students are coming in, they almost don't know each other at all. Or they're coming in small groups that are in the same class. They know each other from other courses, and within three, four weeks, I'm walking through the hallways at the university and I'm seeing them sitting together, working together, even having lunch together in structures that didn't exist on day one. There are so many social structures, social barriers in classrooms. And if we can just erode those barriers, those group structures are going to become more and more porous, and we're creating more community, and we're reducing the risk that exists within those classrooms. Mike: I think the other piece that jumps out for me is when I go back to this notion of one random grouping, a random grouping that shifts every 45 to 75 minutes. This idea of breaking those social boundaries—but also, really this idea that knowledge mobility is accelerated jumps out of those two practices. I can really see that in the structure and how that would encourage that kind of change. Peter: Yeah. And it encourages both passively and actively. Passive in the sense that students can look over the shoulder, active that they can talk to another group. But also passively from the teacher perspective, that random groups does a lot of that heavy lifting. But I can also encourage it actively when a group asks a question. Rather than answering their question, looking around the room going, “You should go talk to the sevens over there.” Or “We're done. What do we do next?” “Go talk to the fours. They know what's next.” That, sort of, “I as a teacher can be passive and let the random groups do a lot of the heavy lifting. But I can also be active and push knowledge around the room. By the way, I respond to students' questions.” Mike: Well, and I think what also strikes me is you're really distributing the authority mathematically to the kids as well. Peter: Yeah, so we're displacing status, we're increasing identity. We're doing all sorts of different things that are de-powering the classroom, decentralizing the classroom. Mike: Well, before we go, Peter, I'm wondering if there are any steps that you'd recommend to an educator who's listening. They want to start to dabble, or they want to take up some of the ideas that we've talked about. Where would you invite people to make a start? Peter: So, first of all, one of the things we found in our research was small change is no change. When you make small changes, the classroom as a system will resist that. So, go big. In building thinking classrooms, random groups is not a practice that gets enacted on its own. It's enacted with two other practices: thinking tasks, which is chapter one of my book, random groups, which is chapter two. And then, getting the students working at vertical whiteboards. These are transformational changes to the classroom. What we're doing in doing that is we're changing the environment in which we're asking students to behave differently. Asking students to behave differently in exactly the same environment that they behaved a certain way for five years already is almost impossible to do. If you want them to behave differently, if you want them to start to think, you're going to have to create an environment that is more conducive to thinking. Peter: So, that's part of it. The other thing is, don't do things by half measures. Don't start doing, “Well, we're going to do random groups on Mondays, but we're going to do strategic groups the rest of the days,” or something like this. Because what that communicates to students is that the randomness is something that you don't really value. Go big. We're doing random groups. We're always doing random groups. Have the courage. Yes, there's going to be some combinations that you're going to go, “Uh-oh.” And some of those are going to be really uh-oh combinations. But you're also going to have way more situations where you go and then it turns out to be amazing. So, have that courage. Go with the random groups and do it persistently and consistently. Because there is going to be resistance. The students are going to resist this thing because at least when you're being strategic, you're being thoughtful about it. Peter: But this feels like too much chance. And they start to attribute, they start to map their emotions around being placed in strategic groups, which were often for a month, into this setting. And what we need to do is, we need to show that this is not that by being consistent, doing it randomly, doing it frequently, so they start to realize that this is different. This is not the kind of grouping structures that have happened in the past. And do it. Do it consistently, persistently. Do it for at least 10 days before you start to really see and really reap those benefits. Mike: I think that's a really great place to stop. Thank you so much for joining us on the podcast, Peter. It really has been a pleasure chatting with you. Peter: Thanks so much. It's been a great conversation. Mike: This podcast is brought to you by The Math Learning Center and the Maier Math Foundation, dedicated to inspiring and enabling all individuals to discover and develop their mathematical confidence and ability. © 2024 The Math Learning Center | www.mathlearningcenter.org

I share my takaways from day 2 of the Building Thinking Classrooms conference in Phenix this summer. I hope you enjoy and learn something that you can use in your classroom. #BTC2024 #Buildingthinkingclassrooms

Guest Lorenzo Rodriguez has been a math educator for the past eight years, joyfully honing his craft and developing a pedagogy that works to convince students that a mathematician can be anybody, with any background, who thinks in any language. He has served as the Math Department Chair and Activities Director, worked within our cross-curricular Cybersecurity pathway, and hosted “math labs,” collaborative days spent engaging in dialogue about how best to support mathematical thinking in our diverse classrooms. Summary This is part 2 of an episode I aired with Dr. Peter Liljedahl last week. Peter created the program “Building Thinking Classrooms in Mathematics” that Lorenzo uses. Our conversation here delves into the challenges and rewards of transforming math education. Lorenzo shares his journey from traditional teaching methods to a more student-centered approach. He emphasizes the importance of building buy-in among colleagues and sparking student curiosity to foster a love of math. The conversation highlights the power of project-based learning and real-world connections in making math relevant and engaging for students. Lorenzo's implementation of the Thinking Classrooms model showcases how collaborative problem-solving can transform the classroom dynamic. The episode also addresses the need to rethink assessment to better measure student understanding and growth. The episode concludes with a hopeful outlook on the future of math education, emphasizing the potential to create more equitable and engaging learning experiences for all students. Social Media Social Media: X (twitter) - @getoffyourath About Jeff Jeff Ikler is the Director of Quetico Leadership and Career Coaching. “Quetico” (KWEH-teh-co). He works with leaders in all aspects of life to identify and overcome obstacles in their desired future. He came to the field of coaching after a 35-year career in educational publishing. Prior to his career in educational publishing, Jeff taught high school U.S. history and government. Jeff has hosted the “Getting Unstuck—Cultivating Curiosity” podcast for 5 years. The guests and topics he explores are designed to help listeners think differently about the familiar and welcome the new as something to consider. He is also the co-host of the Cultivating Resilience – A Whole Community Approach to Alleviating Trauma in Schools, which promotes mental health and overall wellness. Jeff co-authored Shifting: How School Leaders Can Create a Culture of Change. Shifting integrates leadership development and change mechanics in a three-part change framework to help guide school leaders and their teams toward productive change.  

I share my takaways from the Building Thinking Classrooms conference in Phenix this summer. I hope you enjoy and learn something that you can use in your classroom. This is part one, stay tuned for next week for part two. #BTC2024 #Buildingthinkingclassrooms

Let's talk. Send me a text message! Join us this week as we dive in to the history and power of Problem Solving. Look before the Building Thinking Classrooms book took the math world by storm, other educational experts were leading the way with problem solving and the power of teaching through problems. It's time to uncover the history and power of problem solving in math educationToday's TopicsProblem Solving and Problem Based Learning DefinedTeaching Problems and the Problems of TeachingPowerful Problem Solving ActivitiesBenefits of Problem SolvingRelated Resources on Amazon*Max Ray's Powerful Problem SolvingMagdalene Lampert: Teaching Problems and the Problems of TeachingPeter Liljedahl's Building Thinking ClassroomsConnect with Kristen: Follow on Instagram @moorethanjustx Join the Facebook Community: The Modern Math Teachers Movement More About the Modern Math Teacher Podcast Kristen Moore, classroom teacher and instructional coach at Moore Than Just X, empowers modern secondary math teachers to transform the student experience with the strategies and the confidence to implement project-based learning, mastery-based assessment, and student engagement strategies in their classrooms. Whether you're a math education newbie or a seasoned veteran, you'll find something new and inspiring in every episode. You're already a listener, why not join the Movement inside ✨The Modern Math Teachers Movement Facebook group. Join the community of math teachers who are not afraid to shake things up and make math class the best part of the day for our students. So tune in each Tuesday, have some fun, and let's elevate our math teaching game together!*Amazon orders may provide a small affiliate payout at no extra cost to you. These payouts help keep the podcast free for all!

Let's talk. Send me a text message! In this Poolside PD episode, we dive into enhancing our "Building Thinking Classrooms" by mastering two critical areas: consolidating from the bottom through student discussions and creating meaningful notes. Join Kristen as we explore a simple but effective way to support consolidation and a practical 6-step plan for student-centered note-taking that will transform your classroom. Whether you're looking to refine your consolidation techniques or improve your note-taking strategies, this episode is packed with tips to elevate your teaching game. Don't miss out on these essential strategies to build a more effective Thinking Classroom!Today's Topics:What's Working in our BTC ClassroomsConsolidating from the Bottom Meaningful Notes Proposed 6 step method for Consolidating/Note Taking Resources Mentioned:Building Thinking Classrooms by Peter Liljedahl5 Practices for Orchestrating Productive Mathematics Discussions by Margaret Smith and Mary Kay SteinConnect with Kristen: Follow on Instagram @moorethanjustx Join the Facebook Community: The Modern Math Teachers Movement More About the Modern Math Teacher Podcast Kristen Moore, classroom teacher and instructional coach at Moore Than Just X, empowers modern secondary math teachers to transform the student experience with the strategies and the confidence to implement project-based learning, mastery-based assessment, and student engagement strategies in their classrooms. Whether you're a math education newbie or a seasoned veteran, you'll find something new and inspiring in every episode. You're already a listener, why not join the Movement inside ✨The Modern Math Teachers Movement Facebook group. Join the community of math teachers who are not afraid to shake things up and make math class the best part of the day for our students. So tune in each Tuesday, have some fun, and let's elevate our math teaching game together!

In this episode, Maegan and Kyle are delighted to welcome Alicia Burdess (@BurdessAlicia), a coach and numeracy lead from Grand Prairie Catholic School District. Alicia shares her inspiring journey from aspiring sports doctor to a passionate math educator and leader. She discusses her deep love of Building Thinking Classrooms and how it transformed her teaching approach. Alicia passionately talks about the power of 'big, beautiful problems' in mathematics education and how they can engage students of all ages. She also shares insights from her experience running math camps and the joy of connecting math concepts with children's literature. Alicia also gives us a glimpse into her self-published children's book, 'The Dragon Curve,' and its magical approach to teaching fractals. Tune in for an episode filled with enthusiasm, innovative teaching strategies, and a celebration of joyful learning in math. Alicia's Problems Worth Solving in a Thinking Classroom. Books mentioned by Alicia in the episode: Too Many Pigs and One Big Bad Wolf: A Counting Story : Cali, Davide, Balducci, Marianna A Bike Like Sergio's: Boelts, Maribeth, Jones, Noah Z Enter to win a free set of Wipebook Flipcharts for your Thinking Classroom: ⁠www.wipebook.com/TTT⁠

In this episode of Room to Grow, our hosts discuss ways to support student sense-making in teaching and learning mathematics. Building out on the ideas shared in Episode 3 of Room to Grow, Curtis and Joanie dive more deeply into what it means for students to “make sense of mathematics.” They discuss what it looks and sounds like when students are making sense, as opposed to just repeating back learned ideas, and consider which classroom structures and teacher moves might best support students' sense-making. They acknowledge that sense-making is not more or less important than learning mathematical skills and fluency, but that it is a part of deep learning and of a student's ability to generalize their understanding.  As Peter Liljedahl says in Building Thinking Classrooms, “The goal of building thinking classrooms is not to find engaging tasks for students to think about. The goal of thinking classrooms is to build engaged students that are willing to think about any task.” We encourage you to explore the resources below, referenced in this episode:The Standards for Mathematical Practice, now referenced in most states' math standards and originally published by the Council of Chief State School Officers and the Governor's Association;Jo Boaler's Math-ish book and website;Peter Liljedahl's book and website Building Thinking Classrooms, and Robert Kaplinsky's blog post about why you should read it. Did you enjoy this episode of Room to Grow? Please leave a review and share the episode with others. Share your feedback, comments, and suggestions for future episode topics by emailing roomtogrowmath@gmail.com. Be sure to connect with your hosts on Twitter and Instagram: @JoanieFun and @cbmathguy. 

Enter to win a free set of Wipebook Flipcharts for your Thinking Classroom: ⁠www.wipebook.com/TTT⁠ In this episode, Kyle and Dean chat with Jerrold Wiebe (@Jerroldwiebe), a Numeracy & Mathematics Consultant and a part of the Building Thinking Classrooms Canadian team. A "legacy" teacher with over 35 years of experience in education, ranging from classroom teaching to district math lead, Jerrold shares his journey from being introduced to Building Thinking Classrooms and how it has revolutionized his approach to teaching and learning. We discuss the profound impact of Thinking Classrooms, highlighting stories of student transformation, the importance of fostering a culture of lifelong learning among educators, and the strategic shifts that educators can make to enhance student engagement and understanding. Jerrold's reflections on professional development, alongside his vibrant anecdotes, offer invaluable insights into fostering educational environments that challenge and inspire both students and teachers alike.

Are you a primary teacher implementing Building Thinking Classrooms? I have the expert you want to know on the show today!! Maegan Giroux is the co-author of the about-to-release Building Thinking Classroom Tasks book for elementary! Even if you haven't started implementing Building Thinking Classrooms, Maegan is a dream to know! She is passionate about helping students become mathematicians through sense making and thinking. You will feel empowered to get your students thinking after you listen to today's episode with Maegan. In this episode we will chat about: task types and choice curriculum tasks vs. non-curriculum tasks scaffolding tasks for learners while maintaining rigor About our guest, Maegan Giroux:Maegan had an unexpected journey to being a kindergarten teacher. As a middle school math teacher, Maegan loves the opportunity to also teach the youngest students because of the unpredictability and joy they bring each day! For the past 18 months Maegan and Peter Liljedhal have been working on a book full of tasks ready to use in your classroom. Set to release any day!  Building Thinking Classroom: 

In episode 177, I reflect on the changes I made with the Building the Thinking Classroom Model. From it's beginnings to how it is in my curriculum and what is coming up next. You can learn more at Building Thinking Classrooms. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pixelclassroom/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pixelclassroom/support

Enter to win a free set of Wipebook Flipcharts for your Thinking Classroom: ⁠www.wipebook.com/TTT⁠ In this episode, Kyle has a conversation with Judy Larson (@JudytaLarsen), Associate Professor at University of Fraser Valley and longtime Building Thinking Classrooms teacher. Deeply entrenched in math education and an unwavering advocate for innovative teaching, Judy shares her captivating journey alongside Peter Liljedahl. From the initial shock of abandoning traditional teaching to adopting Thinking Classroom practices, Judy recollects her transformative experiences both as a learner and an educator. We explore the roots of Building Thinking Classrooms, including practices like visibly random groups, vertical non-permanent surfaces, and the pivotal role of meaningful notes in shaping students' and teachers' approaches to learning. We also touch on the impact of social media in fostering a vibrant community of educators dedicated to revolutionizing math education. Tune in as we venture into discussions about decolonization, the dynamics of group work, and the perpetual evolution of Thinking Classrooms.

When you shift your teaching practices from “I do, we do, you” to a problem based approach that engages students to think first you will often be led to question how you give feedback to students. In this episode we speak with Diane Hamilton, an elementary classroom teacher from Toronto Ontario. Diane has been implementing the 14 strategies from Peter Liljedahl's book Building Thinking Classrooms and is here to dig into how to give effective feedback to her students instead of grades. Stick around and you'll: Discover innovative self-assessment techniques that empower students to take charge of their learning in mathematics, turning passive learners into active participants.Learn how to develop and communicate effective success criteria, a crucial step in providing feedback that genuinely enhances student understanding and performance.Gain insights into structuring self-assessment and growth-focused activities into your weekly routine, ensuring consistent student progress and deeper comprehension of mathematical concepts.This is another Math Mentoring Moment episode where we chat with a teacher like you who is working through some problems of practice and together we brainstorm ways to overcome them. You'll Learn: Practical self-assessment methods to facilitate student involvement and ownership in their mathematics learning;How can I develop success criteria and share them with students so I can give effective feedback; How can I structure self assessment and growth in mathematics into my weekly routine; Resources: Assessment For Growth: A Blueprint Course For Standards Based Grading in Math ClassMake Math Moments Problem Based Lessons & UnitsDistrict Math Leaders: How are you ensuring that you support those educators who need a nudge to spark a focus on growing their pedagogical-content knowledge? What about opportunities for those who are eager and willing to elevate their practice, but do not have the support? Book a call with our District Improvement Program Team to learn how we can not only help you craft, refine and implement your district math learning goals, but also provide all of the professional learning supports your educators need to grow at the speed of their learning. Book a short conversation with our team now. Get a Customized Math Improvement Plan For Your District.Are you district leader for mathematics? Take the 12 minute assessment and you'll get a free, customized improvement plan to shape and grow the 6 parts of any strong mathematics program.Take the assessment

Have you ever wondered how to ensure your teaching actions align seamlessly with your educational philosophies? How close is your practice with your preach? In this episode we speak with Felicia Favela, a veteran 8th grade pre-algebra teacher from Phoenix Arizona who knows that in the realm of education, consistency between what we say and what we do is pivotal but still wonders how closely she's aligned. Stick around and you'll hear us uncover the root cause of why Felicia feels that she's not aligned with her philosophies, how to identify when students are primed to progress to new challenges, maximizing their learning potential, and learn to harness the power of problem-based lessons as a tool for formative assessment, enhancing your ability to cater to individual student needs.This is another Math Mentoring Moment episode where we chat with a teacher like you who is working through some problems of practice and together we brainstorm ways to overcome them. You'll Learn: How can I make sure my actions match my words? How do I recognize when my students are ready to move to the next problem when using thin slicing from Building Thinking Classrooms; Why problem based lessons are formative assessment gold mines; How we can truly differentiate my instruction while leading a Building Thinking Classroom lesson; What clues do we look for when deciding if a student “gets it”. Resources: Assessment For Growth: A Blueprint Course For Standards Based Grading in Math ClassMake Math Moments Problem Based Lessons & UnitsDistrict Math Leaders: How are you ensuring that you support those educators who need a nudge to spark a focus on growing their pedagogical-content knowledge? What about opportunities for those who are eager and willing to elevate their practice, but do not have the support? Book a call with our District Improvement Program Team to learn how we can not only help you craft, refine and implement your district math learning goals, but also provide all of the professional learning supports your educators need to grow at the speed of their learning. Book a short conversation with our team now. Get a Customized Math Improvement Plan For Your District.Are you district leader for mathematics? Take the 12 minute assessment and you'll get a free, customized improvement plan to shape and grow the 6 parts of any strong mathematics program.Take the assessment

As educators of mathematics around the world embrace the ideas shared in Building Thinking Classrooms, more and more students are being positioned to think collaboratively during math class instead of simply mimicking steps, rules, and procedures. While this shift in mathematics teaching practice is a massive leap in the right direction, our work does not stop once students solve the thinking task at hand. Rather, the real work for the facilitator now begins. Join Peter Liljedahl, Jon Orr, and Kyle Pearce from the opening session of the 2023 Make Math Moments Virtual Summit as they discuss one of the most important, yet often overlooked parts of an effective problem based mathematics lesson: the closing.This is part 2 of the hour-long Keynote session from this past year's Virtual Summit in November. What You'll Learn: Practical Strategies for Dynamic Teaching: Learn how to adapt your teaching style to meet the evolving needs of your students, ensuring that each lesson is as effective as possible.Deep Dive into Consolidation Techniques: Gain insights into powerful consolidation methods, such as gallery walks and group discussions, that can enhance student understanding of complex concepts.Innovative Note-Taking Approach: Discover a structured note-taking method that not only aids in student learning but also encourages active participation and reflection.Resources: 2023 Make Math Moments Virtual SummitMake Math Moments AcademyDistrict Math Leaders: How are you ensuring that you support those educators who need a nudge to spark a focus on growing their pedagogical-content knowledge? What about opportunities for those who are eager and willing to elevate their practice, but do not have the support? Book a call with our District Improvement Program Team to learn how we can not only help you craft, refine and implement your district math learning goals, but also provide all of the professional learning supports your educators need to grow at the speed of their learning. Book a short conversation with our team now.  Take your random grouping to the next level with this printable cards. Mix and match different groupings on the fly. Grab your cards here --> https://makemathmoments.com/random/

Thin sliced problems were coined by Peter Liljedahl in his book Building Thinking Classrooms in Mathematics.What are thin sliced problems & how can you use them to meet all the needs of your students? Be sure to listen as we go through the 9 simple steps to using thin sliced word problems in your math classroom.  In this episode we will chat about: thin sliced problems naturally differentiateusing thin sliced problems in your math classroommaking sure every student is learningLinks: 

This episode has a portion where Tim & Melisa screenshared the tool mentioned, you can watch the video recording here. Join hosts Dean and Kyle as they chat with Tim Brzezinski (@TimBrzezinski) and Melisa McCain (@mccainm), advocates for Building Thinking Classrooms and improving assessment practices. Their conversation is focused on a grading tool, crafted by Tim, Melisa, and their colleagues. This tool, deeply rooted in the principles of Building Thinking Classrooms, provides teachers a tool to actualize the assessment practices laid out by Peter Liljedahl around student assessment. Discover how this innovative rubric, available at http://tinyurl.com/BTCrubric, was designed not just to evaluate, but to enhance students' understanding and learning experiences. The episode delves into the tool's development, design, and its transformative impact on both teaching and learning. This discussion is not just theoretical; it's a practical guide for educators looking to adopt a more effective and empathetic approach to assessment. Tune in to learn how you can implement this game-changing tool in your classroom and foster deeper understanding in your students.

As educators of mathematics around the world embrace the ideas shared in Building Thinking Classrooms, more and more students are being positioned to think collaboratively during math class instead of simply mimicking steps, rules, and procedures. While this shift in mathematics teaching practice is a massive leap in the right direction, our work does not stop once students solve the thinking task at hand. Rather, the real work for the facilitator now begins. Join Peter Liljedahl, Jon Orr, and Kyle Pearce from the opening session of the 2023 Make Math Moments Virtual Summit as they discuss one of the most important, yet often overlooked parts of an effective problem based mathematics lesson: the closing.This is part 1 of the hour-long Keynote session from this past year's Virtual Summit in November. Look for part 2 in two weeks. What You'll Learn: Gain insights into reevaluating traditional teaching methods and discover why "leveling to the top" might be holding back student engagement.Explore the power of the "Consolidating from the Bottom" strategy – a teaching approach designed to make lesson closure inclusive and effective for all students.Learn the art of responsive teaching, fostering flexibility in your lesson plans to create a dynamic, student-centered learning environment.Resources: 2023 Make Math Moments Virtual SummitMake Math Moments AcademyDistrict Math Leaders: How are you ensuring that you support those educators who need a nudge to spark a focus on growing their pedagogical-content knowledge? What about opportunities for those who are eager and willing to elevate their practice, but do not have the support? Book a call with our District Improvement Program Team to learn how we can not only help you craft, refine and implement your district math learning goals, but also provide all of the professional learning supports your educators need to grow at the speed of their learning. Book a short conversation with our team now. Please help new listeners find the show. Leave a rating or review on your platform. Get a Customized Math Improvement Plan For Your District.Are you district leader for mathematics? Take the 12 minute assessment and you'll get a free, customized improvement plan to shape and grow the 6 parts of any strong mathematics program.Take the assessment

In Episode 131, Chey and Pav reflect on how they've been implementing "Thinking Classrooms" in their respective learning spaces. The "Thinking Classroom" model has been coined by mathematician Dr. Peter Liljedahl and his work of creating math learning spaces that encourage students to think more with their math tasks. This problems based approach has several best practices attached to it (outlined by this edutopia post by Peter, himself) and Chey and Pav talk about a few of the first chapters and how they've implemented these strategies. Pav teaches Math and Science, and Chey teaches Language and History - so it has been interesting to see how the two of them use the Thinking Classroom model in different ways to support learning. Learn more about Building Thinking Classrooms from his book found here, and his website. Chey and Pav are always open and willing to engage in meaningful chatter about educational topics. Check out all their content at cheyandpav.com. The Chey and Pav Show! A rich discussion with several a-ha! moments throughout. Tune into this great chat, and as always, be a part of it by tagging @CheyandPav #CheyandPav on X! Tell us what you think, interact, and give us your feedback and reflections. Check out all the podcast episodes, recent and upcoming presentations, the Chey and Pav Blog, and all the other amazing things they are up to at CheyandPav.com! If you're looking for dynamic presenters for professional development, or a seminar or keynote address for a conference, please reach out to us at info@cheyandpav.com. Chey and Pav Educational Services, Inc.

Today we speak with Robert Barth, a high school math teacher from the South side of Chicago. Robert shares his experience with teaching with the original flipped classroom model and how he's morphed it over the years to incorporate Peter Liljedahl's work on Building Thinking Classrooms and the Make Math Moments “Real” Flipped Classroom approach incorporating teaching through task. Listen in as Robert wonders how to engage students who give push back when working in groups and sharing their thinking. You'll hear about teacher moves you can make to motivate students who seem to be unwilling to engage and how to balance your class time between “group thinking” and “individual thinking”. This is another Math Mentoring Moment episode where we chat with a teacher like you who is working through some problems of practice and together we brainstorm ways to overcome them. You'll Learn: Why the “double-flipped” classroom model might be helpful for those who have struggled to implement problem based lessons in the past;Why taking the time to be explicit with students as to why we do what we do in math class; The teacher moves we can leverage to motivate students who seem unwilling to engage;Why too much “group-think” time can may limit the necessary “individual-think” time that students need to individually reflect; and,How we can incorporate routines to intentionally promote the development of relational trust in our mathematics communities.Resources: Quiet - Susan Cain [Book]Episode 204: How To Craft Mentoring Moments - Jim StrachanMake Math Moments Problem Based Lessons & UnitsDistrict Math Leaders: How are you ensuring that you support those educators who need a nudge to spark a focus on growing their pedagogical-content knowledge? What about opportunities for those who are eager and willing to elevate their practice, but do not have the support? Book a call with our District Improvement Program Team to learn how we can not only help you craft, refine and implement your district math learning goals, but also provide all of the professional learning supports your educators need to grow at the speed of their learning. Book a short conversation with our team now.  Please help new listeners find the show. Leave a rating or review on your platform. Get a Customized Math Improvement Plan For Your District.Are you district leader for mathematics? Take the 12 minute assessment and you'll get a free, customized improvement plan to shape and grow the 6 parts of any strong mathematics program.Take the assessment

This week we spoke with Lauren Sawyer, a middle school math teacher from the Chicago area. Lauren has been implementing Peter Lilijedahl's work Building Thinking Classrooms and is trying to find the right balance between collaborative work and individual think time. In this episode we help Lauren limit the illusion of understanding students may get when students are working in groups, determining the right time to schedule individual think time in her lessons, and how she can truly assess her students. This is another Math Mentoring Moment episode where we chat with a teacher like you who is working through some problems of practice and together we brainstorm ways to overcome them. If you have a math class “pebble in your shoe” you'd like to work through, take less than 2 minutes to book a Math Mentoring Moment Call with us and before you know it, you'll be on a call with us to chat all things math!You'll Learn: How do I balance individual work time and group work time?How can we limit the illusion of understanding some students may have when working in groups; How can I truly assess students' understanding when working in groups; When is the right time to schedule individual think time in a Building Thinking Classroom; and,  How I can offer opportunities for students to think collaboratively AND independently every day. Resources: Make Math Moments Problem Based Lessons & UnitsDistrict Math Leaders: How are you ensuring that you support those educators who need a nudge to spark a focus on growing their pedagogical-content knowledge? What about opportunities for those who are eager and willing to elevate their practice, but do not have the support? Book a call with our District Improvement Program Team to learn how we can not only help you craft, refine and implement your district math learning goals, but also provide all of the professional learning supports your educators need to grow at the speed of their learning. Book a short conversation with our team now. Please help new listeners find the show. Leave a rating or review on your platform. If you're looking to explore other ways to build and strengthen your own wealth then each week you'll hear tips, strategies, and options to increase your personal wealth. Listen and subscribe here. Get a Customized Math Improvement Plan For Your District.Are you district leader for mathematics? Take the 12 minute assessment and you'll get a free, customized improvement plan to shape and grow the 6 parts of any strong mathematics program.Take the assessment