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Yep, I'm finally going there. If you're in a painful marriage and you're wondering what your options are, this episode is for you. resources:in a difficult marriage?*if you're not safe or if you or your children are being physically or sexually hurt, please set up a safety plan (https://www.thehotline.org/plan-for-safety/create-your-personal-safety-plan/) and contact the National Domestic Violence Hotline (1-800-799-7233)*confidential marriage assessment: http://bit.ly/marriage-assessment*Surviving in a Difficult Christian Marriage e-book: https://elisabethklein.com/books *14-Day Marriage Challenge: https://elisabethklein.com/marriage-challenge-2/ *3-month e-course, Marriage Methods (now PAY WHAT YOU CAN): https://bit.ly/marriage-methods-pwyc*if you're in a difficult marriage with biblical grounds to divorce and you're trying to decide whether to stay or go: my 5-week e-course, Decision Time (now PAY WHAT YOU CAN): https://bit.ly/PAY-WHAT-YOU-WANT-FOR-ALMOST-EVERYTHING*The Emotionally Destructive Marriage by Leslie Vernick*Divorce & Remarriage in the Church by David Instone-Brewer*get 10% off your first month of BetterHelp online therapy: betterhelp.com/allthattosay

Today David IB gave the first of two talks on the subject of money, concentrating on the teaching of Jesus from Luke 16.

Even if you're reading the Bible every day, you may be missing -- or misunderstanding -- some of what it says.Bible expert David Instone-Brewer recommends putting yourself in the place of the first Christians. By reading the Bible through the eyes of the people for whom it was first written, you'll better understand the meaning of the text. How do you do that? In highlights from this 2022 interview with David, he offers practical tips for mining more gold from the pages of God's Word.Here is an article based on the interview.After serving as a Baptist minister, David spent over two decades as a research fellow at Tyndale House, a research library in biblical studies located in Cambridge, England. His books include Divorce and Remarriage in the Bible, Divorce and Remarriage in the Church, and three books in the  Scripture in Context Series. Check out his Step Bible resource.Contact:Mike Hatch: mhatch@clchq.orgChris Bolinger: chris@mensdevotionals.comResources:Mike's book: Manhood: Empowered by the Light of the Gospel (paperback, audiobook)Join the Empowered Manhood Facebook GroupDaily Strength for Men: A 365-Day Devotional52 Weeks of Strength for MenCLC: https://www.clchq.org/BiblicalLeadership.com

Enid & David broke the taboo of mixing religion and politics! But with a general election looming - how would Jesus vote?

David shared a view of three parables in Matthew 21:28-22:14 - two sons, tenants in the vineyard, wedding feast.

David launched our new series on the Kingdom of Heaven in the gospel of Matthew. This week: a surprising new message.

David examines this question - if we pray for the peace of Jerusalem, and if we see from prophecy that there will be war against Jerusalem when Jesus returns, are we praying for the wrong thing?

David looks at the Bible passages where God promises the land to Abraham, and finds something that may surprise you.

Talk 1 of a mini-series of three talks from David Instone-Brewer about the status of Israel in the Bible.

It's Remembrance Sunday and David looks as the glimpse that Daniel gets of what goes on behind the scenes when we pray. Our next talk in Colossians follows the same theme so you hear it next.

David looks at theories of the Cross - how did Jesus save us, and from what?

In this episode we discuss the answers Paul gave to the questions the Corinthians wrote to him about relationships with others. *****************************************To support this ministry visit becomingabiblenerd.com and click the giving tab. Thank you for your support. *****************************************For more insight on David Instone Brewer's teaching on marriage and divorce check out his book Divorce and Remarriage in the Church. Or listen to the Naked Bible Podcast episode 316 & 318 or Remnant Radio podcast dated 8/10/2020.

David asks why Paul prayed so much for the church in Colossae, and what he asked for.

The second of three talks based on the points found in the booklet Knowing God Personally. This week - Jesus came to fix the problem, but how does it work?

We're told that Cain got married and founded a town after he left Eden, and was afraid that someone out there would kill him so God promised to protect him. But who was there to marry and to fear?

For additional notes and resources check out Douglas' website.1 Cor 7:10-12, 15“Not I, but the Lord” and “I, not the Lord.” Paul reveals the Lord's will on an issue common in the Greco-Roman world: mixed marriages. (“I, not the Lord.”) A Christian has a pagan spouse.Paul and Jesus agree on the subject of divorces between covenant people. Assuming there are no grounds for divorce—and no remarriage—then anyone who deserts a Christian spouse is still married to them. Ideally reconciliation will be reached. Otherwise, one must live as a single person.Paul accepted neglect (abandonment) as grounds for divorce and remarriage. He refers also to withholding of conjugal love. Thus the promises of the marriage vows are in the background of everything he writes. In 1 Cor 7 Paul stresses the 4 obligations of marriage (corresponding to the 4 grounds for divorce).Divorce by separation: Desertion is grounds for divorce as it deprives one's spouse of essential marital rights.Since separation was divorce in the Roman world, if the unbeliever left, the Christian spouse was free to remarry (“not under bondage”). If Christians could not remarry, they would still be in bondage to a spouse who had left, even if that spouse had remarried.1 Cor 7:39: Paul frees the woman from the strictures of levirate marriage (Deut 25:5) – the brother of the widow is required to marry her so that her dead husband's lineage will not die out. The language of 1 Cor 7:39 (free to marry whoever she may please) is part of all standard ancient divorce documents.Thus it appears that widows and divorcees had equal rights – permission to remarry. Yet the traditional church interpretation forbids remarriage except after death or adultery. This does not concur with the understanding of 1stcentury rabbis, Jesus, and Paul.Paul would say to us todayBelievers should never cause a divorce, and must not use (any-cause) divorce.If an unbelieving spouse leaves you, you may remarry.A believer who wrongly got a divorce should strive to be reconciled, not remarry (which would make the divorce irreversible). If they're already remarried, of course, it's too late.The Church Fathers (Patristic writers)Incorrect teaching because the original debate—the issues of a bygone age—had been forgotten.2nd-C Judaism and Christianity alike overreacted in the area of sexual ethics.The early church often erred on the side of harshness.No forgiveness for those who deny Christ.By the 3rdcentury many leaders allowed only one sin after baptism (and some, none at all!). This led to the custom (4th C.) of delaying baptism till near one's time of death.Severe church discipline.Skewed theology of martyrdom.Immortality of the soul – and the concomitant doctrine of infinite hell, increasingly explicit…Asceticism (leading in part to the rise of monasticism): Harsh treatment of the body (Col 2:20-23) easily led to harsh treatment of people.Church polity—the rise of the bishop, the decline of autonomy, and increasing heavy-handedness.Celibacy—a good thing, according to Jesus and Paul (Matt 19:11-12; 1 Cor 7:7), although it came to be viewed as a badge of spirituality. In the western church, celibacy was more and more expected of “clergy.”Divorce—lack of grace, lack of appreciation of nuance.Remarriage – discouraged, despite Paul's counsel in 1 Tim 5.Did the 2nd-century church use certificates of divorce? How would we recognize whether such a document had been written for a Christian or a non-Christian?Keep in mind that the Gentiles wouldn't have this certificate—by far the greater number of Christ-followers—and in Palestine the Christians were still viewed as Jews.So it probably would not be obvious in a such document whether someone was a Jew (non-Christian) or a Jewish Christian. (This was long before the multitudinous documents of medieval canon law!)After the Patristic periodThe Catholic Church sacramentalized marriage.No release.A horrific form of entrapment, for some.Protestants normally allowed divorce for adultery and desertion.Later, liberal Protestants (today) are back to “no-fault” marriage.Final thoughtsThe four grounds for a valid divorce are found in one's wedding vows. All are mentioned in the OT; two are mentioned and two more alluded to in the NT. These include adultery, abuse, abandonment, and neglect.Without proper grounds, a second marriage is adultery.And yet… we are not told to break up a second marriage, even if improperly grounded.For if we did, then there would be two wrongs. Consider 2 Sam 12, or John 4.Divorce is a last resort.Believers should never be the cause of a divorce—that is, they should not break their own marriage vows, or behave badly in hopes that will trigger a divorce.Nor should they initiate a groundless divorce—that is, where a spouse hasn't broken his or her wedding vows.Cautious humility required, because of:Naïvete. There are significant gaps in our knowledge. Background information is needed! For too long we may have been taught a naïve way of interpreting the Bible. The meaning of a biblical passage isn't always obvious. Interpretation is essential. Perspicuity of scriptures?Legalism: It's too easy for all of us to drift into legalism. It's easier sometimes to make a rule than to do extra reading, speak with those who know more than we do, or patiently explore the nuance of scripture. Nor will we learn if our hearts are full of hate and legalism.Pride: We tend to think we are right.A word to church leaders—7 strong suggestionsRead critically—not just books supporting our own view!David Instone-Brewer, the world's preeminent expert on 1stcentury M&D customs and documents.Visit his website, https://www.divorce-remarriage.com. I-B is especially helpful because he provides the ancient Jewish and pagan sources, which paint of picture of expectations and practices in the ancient world.Click here for a précis of his two books.Jerry Jones (former head of the Bible Department, Harding College; elder, Boston Church of Christ; with his wife, teaches widely on marriage). Marriage, Divorce and Remarriage: Seen Through the Character of God and the Mind of Jesus (Joplin, MO: College Press, 2016).His position coincides with Instone-Brewer's.“The ‘guilty' and ‘innocent' parties do not have to be identified.A divorce severs the marriage, and the couple is no longer married ‘in God's eyes.'A past, failed marriage (or marriages) does not demand a future life of singleness.Marriages that are destructive or abusive do not have to be maintained until a spouse is sexually unfaithful” (127).Jones's specific advice: “Before the decision to end the marriage is made, efforts to prevent divorce should be exhausted and the following questions considered:What does the character of God dictate?How does the mind of Christ impact this decision?Are any of the 4 elements of marriage being violated?” (p.126).Encourage people to think. Don't tell them what to do. Jesus often did not immediately answer questions.“Who appointed me a judge or arbiter…?” “The Law—how do you read it?” “Come and see.” “Bring me a denarius.” “Go and learn what this means.”Biblical principles internalized help us to become spiritual people, instead of legalists (who tend to read the Bible like a rulebook).Consider the grounds for divorce carefully.Verbal abuse – the husband is not protecting his wife – a violation of his vow.Of course pornography is a violation of the wedding vows. However, that doesn't mean the offended party should initiate a divorce. That's up to her [him]. Yet there's no need to wait to divorce until intercourse has taken place.Just because someone has stopped coming to church, he isn't necessarily in the category of the “unbeliever” who leaves the faithful spouse (1 Cor 7). His faithful spouse should not divorce him if things can be worked out. Marriage matters can be intensely stressful, and I wouldn't take someone's failure to turn up for a couple of weeks—even if they announce they're done with church—as the final word. They could well come back.The victim of broken vows is normally the one who can best decide when the marriage is over—not his or her spouse.Especially when there is abuse in a marriage.“Only the Lord knows the heart… We cannot leave it up to the minister or a church leadership team to decide when a marriage ends; it is up to the individual victim, in prayer before the Lord. Only they and the Lord know what their life is really like. Only they know if their partner has expressed repentance, and only they will have to live with the consequences of the decision” (Instone-Brewer).I'm not saying church leaders should never be involved. But sometimes we are unnecessarily involved—perhaps often siding with the husband over the wife, or siding with the spouse with the more pleasant personality.Refer the couple (or one of the spouses) to pastoral counseling if you're not a professional.And even if you are a trained counselor, make sure your counsel is truly biblical, and not just a reflection of your denomination's position.“Marriage counseling is often hampered by the lack of a coherent biblical approach to divorce and remarriage… A Christian counselor can say with confidence that believers do have grounds for divorce in cases of adultery, abuse or neglect but that Jesus asks us to forgive partners who repent after breaking their vows. Jesus allows us to divorce a ‘hardhearted' partner, but neither he nor Paul chose to define how much neglect is too much—unlike the rabbis, who defined the minimum amount of food, clothing and conjugal love that was due. This biblical teaching gives people who are suffering within marriages both an encouragement to persevere and a safety net when they find they cannot cope with it anymore. They can, if necessary, divorce their ‘hard-hearted' partner in the knowledge that God himself was forced down this route when Israel hardheartedly broke her marriage vows to him… Divorce is never good, but sometimes it is the only way to end the evil of a broken marriage” (Instone-Brewer, 170-171).Always be discreet; maintain confidentiality.Marriages should not be discussed in leaders' meetings or staff meetings.There are laws governing the disclosure of personal details.Relate respectfully to other leaders who may not have arrived at the same conclusions you have. Although how we handle divorce and remarriage is important, it isn't a central issue of the faith. It's a “middle circle” item.The apostle Paul

A Christian life lived by the Spirit will show the fruit of the Spirit.

Pastors Chris and Alex discuss marriage, divorce and remarriage. The goal is to chase the ideal and know that wherever you are at... aim for the ideal with your current spouse. Grab Divorce and Remarriage in the Bible by David Instone-Brewer if you would like.Key thought from this episode: Aim for the ideal.We look forward to hearing from you for future topics we might address!Email chris.stukenberg@parkhillsefc.org or check out parkhillschurch.com for more info.

David updates Paul's rather convoluted reasoning as he (Paul) continued to show how Peter went wrong.

Dr. David Instone-Brewer discusses Jewish law and rabbis during the time of Jesus. 

What did Paul mean by "Another gospel"? What do we think of other Christian sects?

David unpacks what was in Paul's mind when he wrote this passage. (The recording missed the beginning of the reading.)

David looks at the Ten Commandments, and the rest of the law of the OT, as a vehicle of justice.

David has been chatting with Chat GPT - it knows a lot, but is it wise?

John's Baptism for Repentance was a startling new concept. Jesus takes it a step further - Forgiveness.

Have you realised that the Nativity plays in many local churches actually have little to do with the birth of Jesus as depicted in the Gospels? In this interview with Premier's resident leadership expert Andy Peck, Rev Dr David Instone-Brewer Research Fellow at Tyndale House, Cambridge, tackles some of the mythical elements surrounding the incarnation and suggests a new way and better way of understanding what was really going on. The Profile is brought to you by Premier Christianity magazine. Subscribe for news, features and analysis from £3.95 (UK) or $1 (International) at premierchristianity.com/subscribe

David explores the important of gold in the Bible and what the Magi's gift says about Jesus.

David shows what was new about Amos's message, and examines our own response to prophecy.

Paul is furious with the "circumcision party" - those who wanted non-Jewish Christian converts to follow Jewish law. What add-ons to the Gospel do we throw into people's path that hinder their journey to faith?

David kicks off a new series in which we dig into the details of God as father, Son and Holy Spirit. Today - what do we need to know about God?

David investigates Paul's own conversion testimony and looks for lessons that we can take from it.

Many men today struggle with reading the bible. We don't know where to start and we lack confidence in handling the word of God. Our guest today, Reverend Dr. David Instone-Brewer, shares some unique and helpful insights to make the bible more approachable. If reading the bible has been challenging for you, this episode will offer some great ways to move you forward.The Rev. Dr. David Instone-Brewer is a research fellow at Tyndale House, a research library in biblical studies located in Cambridge, England. He previously served as a Baptist minister. His books include Divorce and Remarriage in the Bible, Divorce and Remarriage in the Church, and Traditions of the Rabbis from the Era of the New Testament.SHOW NOTES:David's Website: www.biblecontexts.com (https://www.biblecontexts.com/)David's Books on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/David-Instone-Brewer/e/B001JS8E32%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_shareStep Bible Resource: www.stepbible.orgThe Bible Project Resource: www.bibleproject.comCLC Website: https://www.clchq.org/Contact Mike Hatch: mhatch@clchq.orgContact Chris Bolinger: https://chrisbolinger.com/author/Men's Devotional: "Daily Strength for Men" (https://www.amazon.com/Daily-Strength-Men-365-Day-Devotional-ebook/dp/B07N9P7DRD)

John 1:1-14 tells us “the Word became meat.” Sounds shocking? So it was for John's first readers. David Instone-Brewer shows how far Jesus stooped for love of us. Video with the visuals at https://youtu.be/PMSdpVx3bZk.

For additional notes and resources check out Douglas' website.“It was said, ‘Whoever sends his wife away, let him give her a certificate of divorce'; but I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except for the reason of unchastity, makes her commit adultery; and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery” (Matthew 5:31-32).The Jewish worldThere were grounds for divorce besides adultery, including failure to provide food and clothing for one's spouse and failure to offer conjugal love. The ancient rabbis understood this to be the case because of Exodus 21:10-11 and other passages.Legitimate grounds for divorce did not, however, necessarily mean one should divorce his or her spouse.A divorced person was expected to remarry—under strong social pressure.In the 1st century there were two schools of thought about divorce:Shammai—a matter of indecency (Deut 24)Hillel—“any cause”—the kind of divorce Joseph was intending to offer Mary (Matt 1:19).“Any cause” divorce was by far the norm in the 1st century.When the Pharisees ask Jesus about divorce in Matt 19:3-9, they want to know which side of the debate he is on: just cause or “any cause.”He is certainly not on Hillel's side!God's intention is for marriage to last a lifetime.However, Matt 19:9 has been misunderstood. “What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate” doesn't mean that we cannot dissolve a marriage through divorce, but that we ought not. Divorce is a last resort, but necessary in some cases.Exod 21:10-11If he takes to himself another woman, he may not reduce her food, her clothing, or her conjugal rights. If he will not do these three things for her, then she shall go out for nothing, without payment of money.This passage describes the rights of a slave wife: food, clothing, sexual love—that is, material support as well as emotional support.If her husband reneges, she may be released from the marriage. The rabbis correctly saw that if a slave had such rights, so did a free woman, who implicitly expected his faithfulness as a husband.If any of these four rights is neglected, there are grounds for legitimate divorce. The grounds are withdrawal of physical support (food or clothing), withdrawal of emotional support (manifest in sexual engagement), and (implicitly) adultery. This does not mean there should be a divorce, only that if the innocent party initiates proceedings, she may be legally divorce.Marriage has historically been understood as contractual. (Contract is the same word as covenant.) To fail to feed, clothe, and love constitute unfaithfulness to one's marriage vows. And neglected marriage vows justify (though do not require) divorce.Divorce for broken marriage vows (once the infidelity was proven in court) was still practiced up to 70 AD. However, by Jesus' day no-fault divorce (“any cause”) was predominant.Deut 22:13-18 implies that in O.T. times groundless divorce was not permitted, or else it resulted in severe financial penalty.The Roman worldLike Jewish marriage contracts, pagan contracts also included vows to provide physically and sexually for one's spouse.Separation = divorce. (This is the culture into which Paul is speaking in 1 Cor 7.)Divorcees, widows, and widowers were required to remarry by law.All togetherMost Jews practiced easy, “any-cause” divorce. The divorce certificate allowed one to remarry.The pagans simply walked out on their spouses. This was tantamount to divorce.Podcasts to come – by March 2020.Matt 5:31-32For the Jews, this would be shocking. Any-cause divorce was standard.In the broader Roman world separation was Thus Jesus' words would have been shocking to Gentiles, too.Readers unfamiliar with the 1st-century context could easily misunderstand Jesus—but then that is the case with many of Jesus' teachings.Note: Paul accepted neglect (abandonment) as grounds for divorce and remarriage. He refers also to withholding of conjugal love. The promises of the marriage vow are in the background of everything he writes.Remarriage when still married to your original spouse is adultery—a repudiation of one's marital vows.Of course if one is unlawfully divorced and remarried, he has provided grounds for divorce to his (former) spouse. (The NT does not teach that one must return to one's first spouse.)No 1st century Jewish group prohibited remarriage after divorce. In the Roman world, remarriage was mandatory after 18 months; not to remarry was to break the law. Thus it would be quite strange if Jesus and Paul taught against remarriage.Learning from historyThe original debate between the Shammaites and the Hillelites was quickly forgotten after the Jewish War (ending in 70 AD).Many church fathers were unnecessarily harsh in a number of biblical areas, and divorce is one of those.As strange as this may sound, in some ways we are better positioned than the 2nd century church fathers to understand what Jesus and Paul meant, since we have access to multiple sources to which they were not privy:Dead Sea Scrolls fragments on divorceNewly discovered Jewish divorce certificates from the 1st and 2nd centuriesOver 200 Aramaic, Greek, and Latin marriage and divorce papyriRabbinic evidence datable to the 2nd centuryDivorce documents from the Geniza of the Cairo SynagogueThese documents have all been discovered in the last 150 years.ConclusionKeep your marital vows!Without grounds, a second marriage is adultery. (Both the OT and the NT allow four grounds for divorce: desertion, adultery, failure to provide/protect, refusing conjugal love.)Divorce should be the last resort.Note: “We cannot appreciate fully the social implications of Joseph's decision to take Mary as his wife in an honor/shame world. In a difficult social circumstance, Joseph moves beyond even the teaching of Jesus in Matthew 19 to pursue the way of mercy. We might summarize the story of Joseph using the formula of Matthew 5:21-48 this way: “You have heard it said that you may write Mary a certificate of divorce, but I say to you do not be afraid to take her as your wife.” – Mark Love of Rochester University (Leaven 176)Fidelity is far more than not having sex with someone who is not your spouse. We are called to be faithful to our marriage vows. That includes much more than merely avoiding adultery.Jesus taught selfless, sacrificial love in the marriage (Eph 5:21-33).Further: If you want to grappled with the issues for a better understanding of the background situation of the 1st-century Roman world, take a look at David Instone-Brewer's work.Or listen to my series on Divorce & Remarriage.

Have you realised that the Nativity plays in many local churches actually have little to do with the birth of Jesus as depicted in the Gospels? David Instone-Brewer Research Fellow at Tyndale House, Cambridge, tackles some of the mythical elements surrounding the incarnation and suggests a new way and better way of understanding what was really going on. 

Welcome to the Hardwick Evangelical Church Sunday Sermon podcast. Today we hear from David Instone-Brewer as he explores Jonah chapter 2 and how we might all recognise, understand and respond to the call God has for our lives. For more information about Hardwick Evangelical Church, head to www.hechurch.co.uk

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In this episode I respond to a talk given by Dr. Instone-Brewer at the Rethinking Hell Conference some years ago. In his talk, Dr. Instone-Brewer argued that Jesus preached a conditionalist view of Hell in which those without faith in Him would eventually be annihilated. In my response, I argue that any strict literalist and/or Semiticist hermeneutic should be abandoned in favor of the hermeneutic of love. Despite my disagreement with Dr. Instone-Brewer, I find his presentation extremely valuable, compelling, and insightful. I highly recommend it to everyone. This is the link to his presentation on YouTube: https://youtu.be/YGvel-fEcj8

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The Bible offers guidance on many issues. But when it coms to issues like divorce and remarriage in the church, there are still many questions that don't have quick and easy answers. Questions like … Is adultery the only grounds for divorce? Is remarriage considered adultery? What should you do if your spouse walks away from the marriage? Dr. David Instone-Brewer helps clear things up on these issues that continue to remain controversial in the church today. Originally recorded in 2013 on the grounds of Tyndale House in Cambridge, England, today's episode of the Great Stories podcast is packed with answers to some of the toughest questions surrounding divorce and remarriage, along with helpful insights on what is actually said in the Bible and how the church should respond. Dr. Instone-Brewer is the author of several books, including Divorce and Remarriage in the Church. He is also a research fellow at Tyndale House, which is a research library in biblical studies located in Cambridge, England. He previously served as a Baptist minister. Going Deeper Take a deeper dive into the research behind Dr. David Instone-Brewer's conclusions by getting a copy of his book on the topic. Read some excerpts from his book in this short blog titled 4 Questions you were scared to ask about divorce and remarriage.

This week we look at two different Christian views of Divorce and Remarriage. Andrew Cornes is part of the clergy team at All Souls Eastbourne.  He holds to the traditional understanding that Jesus taught divorce is only permissible for adultery, and that the Bible forbids remarriage. David Instone-Brewer is a New Testament scholar from Tyndale House Cambridge.  He believes the church has misunderstood Jesus teaching on divorce.  He claims that Jesus was responding to "any cause" divorce - a Rabbinical view of divorce popular at the time. They debate the Biblical and pastoral issues involved. For David Instone-Brewer’s book Divorce and Remarriage in the Church (Paternoster) Click here For Andrew Cornes’ book Divorce and Remarriage: Biblical Principle and Pastoral Practise (Christian Focus) Click here For Unbelievable? The Conference 2021 http://www.unbelievable.live USA listeners check out our new USA website for exclusive resources and to support us: http://www.unbelievable.show Subscribe to our newsletter and receive the free Unbelievable? e-book ‘In Conversation With…’ https://www.premier.org.uk/Unbelievablenewsletter   Support the show: https://resources.premier.org.uk/supportunbelievable    For more faith debates visit http://www.premierchristianradio.com/Shows/Saturday/Unbelievable  Facebook https://www.facebook.com/UnbelievableJB   Twitter https://twitter.com/unbelievablejb   Insta https://www.instagram.com/justin.brierley

The Rev Dr David Instone-Brewer joins us this episode to talk through what the Bible has to say (and doesn't have to say!) about masturbation, polygamy/polyamory, divorce, and so much more. Rev Dr David Instone-Brewer is an Honorary Research Fellow of Tyndale House, Cambridge, specialising in ancient Jewish background to the Bible. He brings a pastoral heart to scholarly issues, which he communicates in both widely read and academic publications. He exercises his other love - computer programming - by creating websites such as www.STEPBible.org, where you can read multiple Bibles and understand the underlying Greek and Hebrew without knowing the languages.Check out Dr. Instone-Brewer's recent book here!Links mentioned on the program: www.STEPBible.org www.BibleContexts.comwww.DivorceRemarriage.com

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Reading- Erica- Meaning of Marriage by Timothy and Kathy Keller Chris- Divorce and Remarriage in the Church, Divorce and Remarriage in the Bible both by David Instone-Brewer, Colossians commentaries, Coddling of the American Mind by Lukainoff and Haidt   Watching- Erica- Away on Netflix Chris-Longmire, Tenet, The Pale Tourist   Learning- Erica- Let it go! Chris-Limitations stink, I love our house and learning to love imperfections (even if not made by me)   Listening to- Erica- My fall playlist Chris-podcasts, Brett Eldridge   On your heart- Erica- People are important.  Chris -Prayer journey/proper hope and expectation   Co-hosts - Chris and Erica Producer - James Music - Brian

Welcome to the Midtown Midweek, a resource to equip you to be with Jesus and become more like Him as we continue the conversation from Sunday's teaching.Questions? Send us an email at teaching@midtowncolumbia.comRecommended ResourcesDivorce and Remarriage in the Bible by David Instone-BrewerDivorce and Remarriage in the Church by David Instone-Brewer

Welcome to the Midtown Midweek, a resource to equip you to be with Jesus and become more like Him as we continue the conversation from Sunday’s teaching.Questions? Send us an email at teaching@midtowncolumbia.comRecommended ResourcesDivorce and Remarriage in the Bible by David Instone-BrewerDivorce and Remarriage in the Church by David Instone-Brewer

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David Instone-Brewer joins me in this episode to share from his expertise in first-century backgrounds and culture so we can see familiar doctrines with fresh, first-century, eyes. I know you'll be surprised at how much church tradition and our modern context has influenced our understanding of many core Christian doctrines.   Get your own copy of David Instone-Brewer's Church Doctrine and the Bible: Theology in Ancient Context (Scripture in Context Series).   For additional show notes, visit ShaunTabatt.com/398.   The Shaun Tabatt Show is part of the Destiny Image Podcast Network.

VIDEO MAP/TIME STAMPS 0:00 Intro to topic #1 10:07 What you need to know about the Jewish backdrop of Jesus' teaching on divorce. #2 25:53 Why you should be open to exceptions to Jesus' rule about not divorcing. #3 37:15 What all four Gospels have in common on this topic. #4 39:00 Jesus' teaching on divorce in Mark 10. #5 46:54 Jesus' teaching on divorce in Luke 16. #6 48:42 Jesus' teaching on divorce in Matthew 5. #7 50:16 I've been taught that marriage is literally unbreakable; that it is ontologically impossible to end unless your spouse dies. What about that? #8 54:26 What did Jesus mean by “sexual immorality”. #9 1:11:00 Jesus' teaching on divorce in Matthew 19. #10 1:21:22 Jesus' teaching on divorce in Romans 7. #11 1:28:17 Paul's teaching in 1 Corinthians 7 vs. 10-16. #12 1:37:54 Does “not enslaved” allow remarriage after divorce in 1 Corinthians 7 vs. 15? #13 1:51:19 When can a Christian spouse be treated like a non-Christian? #14 2:00:49 What about abuse or extreme situations? #15 2:08:25 If you divorce for abuse or extreme situations can you get remarried? #16 2:10:51 Paul's teaching in 1 Corinthians 7 vs. 17-40. #17 2:19:05 Who are we to disagree with the church fathers? #18 2:31:46 God said, “I hate divorce”, doesn't that mean you can't get divorced? #19 2:33:53 What about those who will abuse the exceptions and wrongly divorce? #20 2:36:28 What about alcoholism, gambling, drug use, etc.? #21 2:37:29 What about a marriage that was entered sinfully? Should it be broken up? #22 2:44:05 What about David Instone-Brewer? #23 2:57:06 Should a pastor marry someone who is wrongly divorced? #24 2:58:53 Summary of all 16 biblical principles. #25 3:02:45 What are bad reasons for getting a divorce? #26 3:03:16 Final thoughts. RESOURCE LIST My teaching for husbands. https://youtu.be/65eMggo_xKQ My teaching for wives. https://youtu.be/H8PFVZgIQ2w Know that I don't endorse these different works. They are resources showing a wide variety of interpretations from the most strict to relatively lenient. If you want to go deep on this topic then I recommend reading several authors, especially those you disagree with. ARTICLES: John Piper, “Divorce and Remarriage: A Position Paper” https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/divorce-and-remarriage-a-position-paper Raymond Westbrook, “The Prohibition on Restoration of Marriage in Deuteronomy 24:1-4” https://www.wisereaction.org/ebooks/westbrook.pdf this is where he gives his case for the first marriage involving a man keeping the ketubah and the second marriage involving the woman getting it. Wayne Grudem, “Grounds for Divorce: Why I Believe There Are More Than Two” (the infamous paper delivered at last year's ETS) http://www.waynegrudem.com/grounds-for-divorce-why-i-now-believe-there-are-more-than-two/ David Instone-Brewer's article on ancient marriage and divorce papyri. http://www.tyndalearchive.com/Brewer/MarriagePapyri/1Cor_7a.htm The Damascus Document https://www.academia.edu/28913750/The_Damascus_Document_CD_2005_ Carol Osburn article refuting David Pawson's view that the Greek shows second marriages are continual adultery. “The Present Indicative in Matthew 19:9” https://digitalcommons.acu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1029&context=restorationquarterly BOOKS: David Pawson - “Remarriage is Adultery Unless…” https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00564TNV2/ Gordon Wenham, “Jesus, Divorce, and Remarriage: In Their Historical Setting” https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B083ZN5ZQ3/ Wenham, Heth & Keener, “Remarriage after Divorce in Today's Church: 3 Views” https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0050O6P1O/ David Instone-Brewer, “Divorce and Remarriage in the Bible: The Social and Literary Context” https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001Q3L4VY/ See reviews of Instone-Brewer's work here (Gagnon's negative review and I-B's response are particularly interesting) https://www.divorce-remarriage.com/ Craig Keener, “…And Marries Another: Divorce and Remarriage in the Teach

VIDEO MAP/TIME STAMPS 0:00 Intro to topic #1 10:07 What you need to know about the Jewish backdrop of Jesus’ teaching on divorce. #2 25:53 Why you should be open to exceptions to Jesus’ rule about not divorcing. #3 37:15 What all four Gospels have in common on this topic. #4 39:00 Jesus’ teaching on divorce in Mark 10. #5 46:54 Jesus’ teaching on divorce in Luke 16. #6 48:42 Jesus’ teaching on divorce in Matthew 5. #7 50:16 I’ve been taught that marriage is literally unbreakable; that it is ontologically impossible to end unless your spouse dies. What about that? #8 54:26 What did Jesus mean by “sexual immorality”. #9 1:11:00 Jesus’ teaching on divorce in Matthew 19. #10 1:21:22 Jesus’ teaching on divorce in Romans 7. #11 1:28:17 Paul’s teaching in 1 Corinthians 7 vs. 10-16. #12 1:37:54 Does “not enslaved” allow remarriage after divorce in 1 Corinthians 7 vs. 15? #13 1:51:19 When can a Christian spouse be treated like a non-Christian? #14 2:00:49 What about abuse or extreme situations? #15 2:08:25 If you divorce for abuse or extreme situations can you get remarried? #16 2:10:51 Paul’s teaching in 1 Corinthians 7 vs. 17-40. #17 2:19:05 Who are we to disagree with the church fathers? #18 2:31:46 God said, “I hate divorce”, doesn’t that mean you can’t get divorced? #19 2:33:53 What about those who will abuse the exceptions and wrongly divorce? #20 2:36:28 What about alcoholism, gambling, drug use, etc.? #21 2:37:29 What about a marriage that was entered sinfully? Should it be broken up? #22 2:44:05 What about David Instone-Brewer? #23 2:57:06 Should a pastor marry someone who is wrongly divorced? #24 2:58:53 Summary of all 16 biblical principles. #25 3:02:45 What are bad reasons for getting a divorce? #26 3:03:16 Final thoughts. RESOURCE LIST My teaching for husbands. https://youtu.be/65eMggo_xKQ My teaching for wives. https://youtu.be/H8PFVZgIQ2w Know that I don’t endorse these different works. They are resources showing a wide variety of interpretations from the most strict to relatively lenient. If you want to go deep on this topic then I recommend reading several authors, especially those you disagree with. ARTICLES: John Piper, “Divorce and Remarriage: A Position Paper” https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/divorce-and-remarriage-a-position-paper Raymond Westbrook, “The Prohibition on Restoration of Marriage in Deuteronomy 24:1-4” https://www.wisereaction.org/ebooks/westbrook.pdf this is where he gives his case for the first marriage involving a man keeping the ketubah and the second marriage involving the woman getting it. Wayne Grudem, “Grounds for Divorce: Why I Believe There Are More Than Two” (the infamous paper delivered at last year’s ETS) http://www.waynegrudem.com/grounds-for-divorce-why-i-now-believe-there-are-more-than-two/ David Instone-Brewer’s article on ancient marriage and divorce papyri. http://www.tyndalearchive.com/Brewer/MarriagePapyri/1Cor_7a.htm The Damascus Document https://www.academia.edu/28913750/The_Damascus_Document_CD_2005_ Carol Osburn article refuting David Pawson’s view that the Greek shows second marriages are continual adultery. “The Present Indicative in Matthew 19:9” https://digitalcommons.acu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1029&context=restorationquarterly BOOKS: David Pawson - “Remarriage is Adultery Unless…” https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00564TNV2/ Gordon Wenham, “Jesus, Divorce, and Remarriage: In Their Historical Setting” https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B083ZN5ZQ3/ Wenham, Heth & Keener, “Remarriage after Divorce in Today’s Church: 3 Views” https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0050O6P1O/ David Instone-Brewer, “Divorce and Remarriage in the Bible: The Social and Literary Context” https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001Q3L4VY/ See reviews of Instone-Brewer’s work here (Gagnon’s negative review and I-B’s response are particularly interesting) https://www.divorce-remarriage.com/ Craig Keener, “…And Marries Another: Divorce and Remarriage in the Teaching of the New Testament” https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0801046742/ Jay E. Adams, “Marriage, Divorce, and Remarriage in the Bible” probably the single book I’d recommend if you were only going to read one book and wanted extended advice for pastoral ministry along with simple but thoughtful treatment of the Bible passages in question. https://www.amazon.com/Marriage-Divorce-Remarriage-Bible-Adams/dp/0310511119 D.A. Carson’s commentary on Matthew https://www.amazon.com/Matthew-Expositors-Bible-Commentary-Carson-ebook/dp/B01N2BKWIG There are a number of commentaries and quite a few other scholarly articles I used in my prep that I’m not including here. But if you pay attention to the footnotes in these sources I’m sure you will have more than enough content to look into.

VIDEO MAP/TIME STAMPS 0:00 Intro to topic #1 10:07 What you need to know about the Jewish backdrop of Jesus’ teaching on divorce. #2 25:53 Why you should be open to exceptions to Jesus’ rule about not divorcing. #3 37:15 What all four Gospels have in common on this topic. #4 39:00 Jesus’ teaching on divorce in Mark 10. #5 46:54 Jesus’ teaching on divorce in Luke 16. #6 48:42 Jesus’ teaching on divorce in Matthew 5. #7 50:16 I’ve been taught that marriage is literally unbreakable; that it is ontologically impossible to end unless your spouse dies. What about that? #8 54:26 What did Jesus mean by “sexual immorality”. #9 1:11:00 Jesus’ teaching on divorce in Matthew 19. #10 1:21:22 Jesus’ teaching on divorce in Romans 7. #11 1:28:17 Paul’s teaching in 1 Corinthians 7 vs. 10-16. #12 1:37:54 Does “not enslaved” allow remarriage after divorce in 1 Corinthians 7 vs. 15? #13 1:51:19 When can a Christian spouse be treated like a non-Christian? #14 2:00:49 What about abuse or extreme situations? #15 2:08:25 If you divorce for abuse or extreme situations can you get remarried? #16 2:10:51 Paul’s teaching in 1 Corinthians 7 vs. 17-40. #17 2:19:05 Who are we to disagree with the church fathers? #18 2:31:46 God said, “I hate divorce”, doesn’t that mean you can’t get divorced? #19 2:33:53 What about those who will abuse the exceptions and wrongly divorce? #20 2:36:28 What about alcoholism, gambling, drug use, etc.? #21 2:37:29 What about a marriage that was entered sinfully? Should it be broken up? #22 2:44:05 What about David Instone-Brewer? #23 2:57:06 Should a pastor marry someone who is wrongly divorced? #24 2:58:53 Summary of all 16 biblical principles. #25 3:02:45 What are bad reasons for getting a divorce? #26 3:03:16 Final thoughts. RESOURCE LIST My teaching for husbands. https://youtu.be/65eMggo_xKQ My teaching for wives. https://youtu.be/H8PFVZgIQ2w Know that I don’t endorse these different works. They are resources showing a wide variety of interpretations from the most strict to relatively lenient. If you want to go deep on this topic then I recommend reading several authors, especially those you disagree with. ARTICLES: John Piper, “Divorce and Remarriage: A Position Paper” https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/divorce-and-remarriage-a-position-paper Raymond Westbrook, “The Prohibition on Restoration of Marriage in Deuteronomy 24:1-4” https://www.wisereaction.org/ebooks/westbrook.pdf this is where he gives his case for the first marriage involving a man keeping the ketubah and the second marriage involving the woman getting it. Wayne Grudem, “Grounds for Divorce: Why I Believe There Are More Than Two” (the infamous paper delivered at last year’s ETS) http://www.waynegrudem.com/grounds-for-divorce-why-i-now-believe-there-are-more-than-two/ David Instone-Brewer’s article on ancient marriage and divorce papyri. http://www.tyndalearchive.com/Brewer/MarriagePapyri/1Cor_7a.htm The Damascus Document https://www.academia.edu/28913750/The_Damascus_Document_CD_2005_ Carol Osburn article refuting David Pawson’s view that the Greek shows second marriages are continual adultery. “The Present Indicative in Matthew 19:9” https://digitalcommons.acu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1029&context=restorationquarterly BOOKS: David Pawson - “Remarriage is Adultery Unless…” https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00564TNV2/ Gordon Wenham, “Jesus, Divorce, and Remarriage: In Their Historical Setting” https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B083ZN5ZQ3/ Wenham, Heth & Keener, “Remarriage after Divorce in Today’s Church: 3 Views” https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0050O6P1O/ David Instone-Brewer, “Divorce and Remarriage in the Bible: The Social and Literary Context” https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001Q3L4VY/ See reviews of Instone-Brewer’s work here (Gagnon’s negative review and I-B’s response are particularly interesting) https://www.divorce-remarriage.com/ Craig Keener, “…And Marries Another: Divorce and Remarriage in the Teaching of the New Testament” https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0801046742/ Jay E. Adams, “Marriage, Divorce, and Remarriage in the Bible” probably the single book I’d recommend if you were only going to read one book and wanted extended advice for pastoral ministry along with simple but thoughtful treatment of the Bible passages in question. https://www.amazon.com/Marriage-Divorce-Remarriage-Bible-Adams/dp/0310511119 D.A. Carson’s commentary on Matthew https://www.amazon.com/Matthew-Expositors-Bible-Commentary-Carson-ebook/dp/B01N2BKWIG There are a number of commentaries and quite a few other scholarly articles I used in my prep that I’m not including here. But if you pay attention to the footnotes in these sources I’m sure you will have more than enough content to look into.

VIDEO MAP/TIME STAMPS 0:00 Intro to topic #1 10:07 What you need to know about the Jewish backdrop of Jesus’ teaching on divorce. #2 25:53 Why you should be open to exceptions to Jesus’ rule about not divorcing. #3 37:15 What all four Gospels have in common on this topic. #4 39:00 Jesus’ teaching on divorce in Mark 10. #5 46:54 Jesus’ teaching on divorce in Luke 16. #6 48:42 Jesus’ teaching on divorce in Matthew 5. #7 50:16 I’ve been taught that marriage is literally unbreakable; that it is ontologically impossible to end unless your spouse dies. What about that? #8 54:26 What did Jesus mean by “sexual immorality”. #9 1:11:00 Jesus’ teaching on divorce in Matthew 19. #10 1:21:22 Jesus’ teaching on divorce in Romans 7. #11 1:28:17 Paul’s teaching in 1 Corinthians 7 vs. 10-16. #12 1:37:54 Does “not enslaved” allow remarriage after divorce in 1 Corinthians 7 vs. 15? #13 1:51:19 When can a Christian spouse be treated like a non-Christian? #14 2:00:49 What about abuse or extreme situations? #15 2:08:25 If you divorce for abuse or extreme situations can you get remarried? #16 2:10:51 Paul’s teaching in 1 Corinthians 7 vs. 17-40. #17 2:19:05 Who are we to disagree with the church fathers? #18 2:31:46 God said, “I hate divorce”, doesn’t that mean you can’t get divorced? #19 2:33:53 What about those who will abuse the exceptions and wrongly divorce? #20 2:36:28 What about alcoholism, gambling, drug use, etc.? #21 2:37:29 What about a marriage that was entered sinfully? Should it be broken up? #22 2:44:05 What about David Instone-Brewer? #23 2:57:06 Should a pastor marry someone who is wrongly divorced? #24 2:58:53 Summary of all 16 biblical principles. #25 3:02:45 What are bad reasons for getting a divorce? #26 3:03:16 Final thoughts. RESOURCE LIST My teaching for husbands. https://youtu.be/65eMggo_xKQ My teaching for wives. https://youtu.be/H8PFVZgIQ2w Know that I don’t endorse these different works. They are resources showing a wide variety of interpretations from the most strict to relatively lenient. If you want to go deep on this topic then I recommend reading several authors, especially those you disagree with. ARTICLES: John Piper, “Divorce and Remarriage: A Position Paper” https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/divorce-and-remarriage-a-position-paper Raymond Westbrook, “The Prohibition on Restoration of Marriage in Deuteronomy 24:1-4” https://www.wisereaction.org/ebooks/westbrook.pdf this is where he gives his case for the first marriage involving a man keeping the ketubah and the second marriage involving the woman getting it. Wayne Grudem, “Grounds for Divorce: Why I Believe There Are More Than Two” (the infamous paper delivered at last year’s ETS) http://www.waynegrudem.com/grounds-for-divorce-why-i-now-believe-there-are-more-than-two/ David Instone-Brewer’s article on ancient marriage and divorce papyri. http://www.tyndalearchive.com/Brewer/MarriagePapyri/1Cor_7a.htm The Damascus Document https://www.academia.edu/28913750/The_Damascus_Document_CD_2005_ Carol Osburn article refuting David Pawson’s view that the Greek shows second marriages are continual adultery. “The Present Indicative in Matthew 19:9” https://digitalcommons.acu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1029&context=restorationquarterly BOOKS: David Pawson - “Remarriage is Adultery Unless…” https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00564TNV2/ Gordon Wenham, “Jesus, Divorce, and Remarriage: In Their Historical Setting” https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B083ZN5ZQ3/ Wenham, Heth & Keener, “Remarriage after Divorce in Today’s Church: 3 Views” https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0050O6P1O/ David Instone-Brewer, “Divorce and Remarriage in the Bible: The Social and Literary Context” https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001Q3L4VY/ See reviews of Instone-Brewer’s work here (Gagnon’s negative review and I-B’s response are particularly interesting) https://www.divorce-remarriage.com/ Craig Keener, “…And Marries Another: Divorce and Remarriage in the Teaching of the New Testament” https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0801046742/ Jay E. Adams, “Marriage, Divorce, and Remarriage in the Bible” probably the single book I’d recommend if you were only going to read one book and wanted extended advice for pastoral ministry along with simple but thoughtful treatment of the Bible passages in question. https://www.amazon.com/Marriage-Divorce-Remarriage-Bible-Adams/dp/0310511119 D.A. Carson’s commentary on Matthew https://www.amazon.com/Matthew-Expositors-Bible-Commentary-Carson-ebook/dp/B01N2BKWIG There are a number of commentaries and quite a few other scholarly articles I used in my prep that I’m not including here. But if you pay attention to the footnotes in these sources I’m sure you will have more than enough content to look into.

VIDEO MAP/TIME STAMPS 0:00 Intro to topic #1 10:07 What you need to know about the Jewish backdrop of Jesus’ teaching on divorce. #2 25:53 Why you should be open to exceptions to Jesus’ rule about not divorcing. #3 37:15 What all four Gospels have in common on this topic. #4 39:00 Jesus’ teaching on divorce in Mark 10. #5 46:54 Jesus’ teaching on divorce in Luke 16. #6 48:42 Jesus’ teaching on divorce in Matthew 5. #7 50:16 I’ve been taught that marriage is literally unbreakable; that it is ontologically impossible to end unless your spouse dies. What about that? #8 54:26 What did Jesus mean by “sexual immorality”. #9 1:11:00 Jesus’ teaching on divorce in Matthew 19. #10 1:21:22 Jesus’ teaching on divorce in Romans 7. #11 1:28:17 Paul’s teaching in 1 Corinthians 7 vs. 10-16. #12 1:37:54 Does “not enslaved” allow remarriage after divorce in 1 Corinthians 7 vs. 15? #13 1:51:19 When can a Christian spouse be treated like a non-Christian? #14 2:00:49 What about abuse or extreme situations? #15 2:08:25 If you divorce for abuse or extreme situations can you get remarried? #16 2:10:51 Paul’s teaching in 1 Corinthians 7 vs. 17-40. #17 2:19:05 Who are we to disagree with the church fathers? #18 2:31:46 God said, “I hate divorce”, doesn’t that mean you can’t get divorced? #19 2:33:53 What about those who will abuse the exceptions and wrongly divorce? #20 2:36:28 What about alcoholism, gambling, drug use, etc.? #21 2:37:29 What about a marriage that was entered sinfully? Should it be broken up? #22 2:44:05 What about David Instone-Brewer? #23 2:57:06 Should a pastor marry someone who is wrongly divorced? #24 2:58:53 Summary of all 16 biblical principles. #25 3:02:45 What are bad reasons for getting a divorce? #26 3:03:16 Final thoughts. RESOURCE LIST My teaching for husbands. https://youtu.be/65eMggo_xKQ My teaching for wives. https://youtu.be/H8PFVZgIQ2w Know that I don’t endorse these different works. They are resources showing a wide variety of interpretations from the most strict to relatively lenient. If you want to go deep on this topic then I recommend reading several authors, especially those you disagree with. ARTICLES: John Piper, “Divorce and Remarriage: A Position Paper” https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/divorce-and-remarriage-a-position-paper Raymond Westbrook, “The Prohibition on Restoration of Marriage in Deuteronomy 24:1-4” https://www.wisereaction.org/ebooks/westbrook.pdf this is where he gives his case for the first marriage involving a man keeping the ketubah and the second marriage involving the woman getting it. Wayne Grudem, “Grounds for Divorce: Why I Believe There Are More Than Two” (the infamous paper delivered at last year’s ETS) http://www.waynegrudem.com/grounds-for-divorce-why-i-now-believe-there-are-more-than-two/ David Instone-Brewer’s article on ancient marriage and divorce papyri. http://www.tyndalearchive.com/Brewer/MarriagePapyri/1Cor_7a.htm The Damascus Document https://www.academia.edu/28913750/The_Damascus_Document_CD_2005_ Carol Osburn article refuting David Pawson’s view that the Greek shows second marriages are continual adultery. “The Present Indicative in Matthew 19:9” https://digitalcommons.acu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1029&context=restorationquarterly BOOKS: David Pawson - “Remarriage is Adultery Unless…” https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00564TNV2/ Gordon Wenham, “Jesus, Divorce, and Remarriage: In Their Historical Setting” https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B083ZN5ZQ3/ Wenham, Heth & Keener, “Remarriage after Divorce in Today’s Church: 3 Views” https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0050O6P1O/ David Instone-Brewer, “Divorce and Remarriage in the Bible: The Social and Literary Context” https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001Q3L4VY/ See reviews of Instone-Brewer’s work here (Gagnon’s negative review and I-B’s response are particularly interesting) https://www.divorce-remarriage.com/ Craig Keener, “…And Marries Another: Divorce and Remarriage in the Teaching of the New Testament” https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0801046742/ Jay E. Adams, “Marriage, Divorce, and Remarriage in the Bible” probably the single book I’d recommend if you were only going to read one book and wanted extended advice for pastoral ministry along with simple but thoughtful treatment of the Bible passages in question. https://www.amazon.com/Marriage-Divorce-Remarriage-Bible-Adams/dp/0310511119 D.A. Carson’s commentary on Matthew https://www.amazon.com/Matthew-Expositors-Bible-Commentary-Carson-ebook/dp/B01N2BKWIG There are a number of commentaries and quite a few other scholarly articles I used in my prep that I’m not including here. But if you pay attention to the footnotes in these sources I’m sure you will have more than enough content to look into.

VIDEO MAP/TIME STAMPS 0:00 Intro to topic #1 10:07 What you need to know about the Jewish backdrop of Jesus’ teaching on divorce. #2 25:53 Why you should be open to exceptions to Jesus’ rule about not divorcing. #3 37:15 What all four Gospels have in common on this topic. #4 39:00 Jesus’ teaching on divorce in Mark 10. #5 46:54 Jesus’ teaching on divorce in Luke 16. #6 48:42 Jesus’ teaching on divorce in Matthew 5. #7 50:16 I’ve been taught that marriage is literally unbreakable; that it is ontologically impossible to end unless your spouse dies. What about that? #8 54:26 What did Jesus mean by “sexual immorality”. #9 1:11:00 Jesus’ teaching on divorce in Matthew 19. #10 1:21:22 Jesus’ teaching on divorce in Romans 7. #11 1:28:17 Paul’s teaching in 1 Corinthians 7 vs. 10-16. #12 1:37:54 Does “not enslaved” allow remarriage after divorce in 1 Corinthians 7 vs. 15? #13 1:51:19 When can a Christian spouse be treated like a non-Christian? #14 2:00:49 What about abuse or extreme situations? #15 2:08:25 If you divorce for abuse or extreme situations can you get remarried? #16 2:10:51 Paul’s teaching in 1 Corinthians 7 vs. 17-40. #17 2:19:05 Who are we to disagree with the church fathers? #18 2:31:46 God said, “I hate divorce”, doesn’t that mean you can’t get divorced? #19 2:33:53 What about those who will abuse the exceptions and wrongly divorce? #20 2:36:28 What about alcoholism, gambling, drug use, etc.? #21 2:37:29 What about a marriage that was entered sinfully? Should it be broken up? #22 2:44:05 What about David Instone-Brewer? #23 2:57:06 Should a pastor marry someone who is wrongly divorced? #24 2:58:53 Summary of all 16 biblical principles. #25 3:02:45 What are bad reasons for getting a divorce? #26 3:03:16 Final thoughts. RESOURCE LIST My teaching for husbands. https://youtu.be/65eMggo_xKQ My teaching for wives. https://youtu.be/H8PFVZgIQ2w Know that I don’t endorse these different works. They are resources showing a wide variety of interpretations from the most strict to relatively lenient. If you want to go deep on this topic then I recommend reading several authors, especially those you disagree with. ARTICLES: John Piper, “Divorce and Remarriage: A Position Paper” https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/divorce-and-remarriage-a-position-paper Raymond Westbrook, “The Prohibition on Restoration of Marriage in Deuteronomy 24:1-4” https://www.wisereaction.org/ebooks/westbrook.pdf this is where he gives his case for the first marriage involving a man keeping the ketubah and the second marriage involving the woman getting it. Wayne Grudem, “Grounds for Divorce: Why I Believe There Are More Than Two” (the infamous paper delivered at last year’s ETS) http://www.waynegrudem.com/grounds-for-divorce-why-i-now-believe-there-are-more-than-two/ David Instone-Brewer’s article on ancient marriage and divorce papyri. http://www.tyndalearchive.com/Brewer/MarriagePapyri/1Cor_7a.htm The Damascus Document https://www.academia.edu/28913750/The_Damascus_Document_CD_2005_ Carol Osburn article refuting David Pawson’s view that the Greek shows second marriages are continual adultery. “The Present Indicative in Matthew 19:9” https://digitalcommons.acu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1029&context=restorationquarterly BOOKS: David Pawson - “Remarriage is Adultery Unless…” https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00564TNV2/ Gordon Wenham, “Jesus, Divorce, and Remarriage: In Their Historical Setting” https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B083ZN5ZQ3/ Wenham, Heth & Keener, “Remarriage after Divorce in Today’s Church: 3 Views” https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0050O6P1O/ David Instone-Brewer, “Divorce and Remarriage in the Bible: The Social and Literary Context” https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001Q3L4VY/ See reviews of Instone-Brewer’s work here (Gagnon’s negative review and I-B’s response are particularly interesting) https://www.divorce-remarriage.com/ Craig Keener, “…And Marries Another: Divorce and Remarriage in the Teaching of the New Testament” https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0801046742/ Jay E. Adams, “Marriage, Divorce, and Remarriage in the Bible” probably the single book I’d recommend if you were only going to read one book and wanted extended advice for pastoral ministry along with simple but thoughtful treatment of the Bible passages in question. https://www.amazon.com/Marriage-Divorce-Remarriage-Bible-Adams/dp/0310511119 D.A. Carson’s commentary on Matthew https://www.amazon.com/Matthew-Expositors-Bible-Commentary-Carson-ebook/dp/B01N2BKWIG There are a number of commentaries and quite a few other scholarly articles I used in my prep that I’m not including here. But if you pay attention to the footnotes in these sources I’m sure you will have more than enough content to look into.

VIDEO MAP/TIME STAMPS 0:00 Intro to topic #1 10:07 What you need to know about the Jewish backdrop of Jesus’ teaching on divorce. #2 25:53 Why you should be open to exceptions to Jesus’ rule about not divorcing. #3 37:15 What all four Gospels have in common on this topic. #4 39:00 Jesus’ teaching on divorce in Mark 10. #5 46:54 Jesus’ teaching on divorce in Luke 16. #6 48:42 Jesus’ teaching on divorce in Matthew 5. #7 50:16 I’ve been taught that marriage is literally unbreakable; that it is ontologically impossible to end unless your spouse dies. What about that? #8 54:26 What did Jesus mean by “sexual immorality”. #9 1:11:00 Jesus’ teaching on divorce in Matthew 19. #10 1:21:22 Jesus’ teaching on divorce in Romans 7. #11 1:28:17 Paul’s teaching in 1 Corinthians 7 vs. 10-16. #12 1:37:54 Does “not enslaved” allow remarriage after divorce in 1 Corinthians 7 vs. 15? #13 1:51:19 When can a Christian spouse be treated like a non-Christian? #14 2:00:49 What about abuse or extreme situations? #15 2:08:25 If you divorce for abuse or extreme situations can you get remarried? #16 2:10:51 Paul’s teaching in 1 Corinthians 7 vs. 17-40. #17 2:19:05 Who are we to disagree with the church fathers? #18 2:31:46 God said, “I hate divorce”, doesn’t that mean you can’t get divorced? #19 2:33:53 What about those who will abuse the exceptions and wrongly divorce? #20 2:36:28 What about alcoholism, gambling, drug use, etc.? #21 2:37:29 What about a marriage that was entered sinfully? Should it be broken up? #22 2:44:05 What about David Instone-Brewer? #23 2:57:06 Should a pastor marry someone who is wrongly divorced? #24 2:58:53 Summary of all 16 biblical principles. #25 3:02:45 What are bad reasons for getting a divorce? #26 3:03:16 Final thoughts. RESOURCE LIST My teaching for husbands. https://youtu.be/65eMggo_xKQ My teaching for wives. https://youtu.be/H8PFVZgIQ2w Know that I don’t endorse these different works. They are resources showing a wide variety of interpretations from the most strict to relatively lenient. If you want to go deep on this topic then I recommend reading several authors, especially those you disagree with. ARTICLES: John Piper, “Divorce and Remarriage: A Position Paper” https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/divorce-and-remarriage-a-position-paper Raymond Westbrook, “The Prohibition on Restoration of Marriage in Deuteronomy 24:1-4” https://www.wisereaction.org/ebooks/westbrook.pdf this is where he gives his case for the first marriage involving a man keeping the ketubah and the second marriage involving the woman getting it. Wayne Grudem, “Grounds for Divorce: Why I Believe There Are More Than Two” (the infamous paper delivered at last year’s ETS) http://www.waynegrudem.com/grounds-for-divorce-why-i-now-believe-there-are-more-than-two/ David Instone-Brewer’s article on ancient marriage and divorce papyri. http://www.tyndalearchive.com/Brewer/MarriagePapyri/1Cor_7a.htm The Damascus Document https://www.academia.edu/28913750/The_Damascus_Document_CD_2005_ Carol Osburn article refuting David Pawson’s view that the Greek shows second marriages are continual adultery. “The Present Indicative in Matthew 19:9” https://digitalcommons.acu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1029&context=restorationquarterly BOOKS: David Pawson - “Remarriage is Adultery Unless…” https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00564TNV2/ Gordon Wenham, “Jesus, Divorce, and Remarriage: In Their Historical Setting” https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B083ZN5ZQ3/ Wenham, Heth & Keener, “Remarriage after Divorce in Today’s Church: 3 Views” https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0050O6P1O/ David Instone-Brewer, “Divorce and Remarriage in the Bible: The Social and Literary Context” https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001Q3L4VY/ See reviews of Instone-Brewer’s work here (Gagnon’s negative review and I-B’s response are particularly interesting) https://www.divorce-remarriage.com/ Craig Keener, “…And Marries Another: Divorce and Remarriage in the Teaching of the New Testament” https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0801046742/ Jay E. Adams, “Marriage, Divorce, and Remarriage in the Bible” probably the single book I’d recommend if you were only going to read one book and wanted extended advice for pastoral ministry along with simple but thoughtful treatment of the Bible passages in question. https://www.amazon.com/Marriage-Divorce-Remarriage-Bible-Adams/dp/0310511119 D.A. Carson’s commentary on Matthew https://www.amazon.com/Matthew-Expositors-Bible-Commentary-Carson-ebook/dp/B01N2BKWIG There are a number of commentaries and quite a few other scholarly articles I used in my prep that I’m not including here. But if you pay attention to the footnotes in these sources I’m sure you will have more than enough content to look into.

VIDEO MAP/TIME STAMPS 0:00 Intro to topic #1 10:07 What you need to know about the Jewish backdrop of Jesus’ teaching on divorce. #2 25:53 Why you should be open to exceptions to Jesus’ rule about not divorcing. #3 37:15 What all four Gospels have in common on this topic. #4 39:00 Jesus’ teaching on divorce in Mark 10. #5 46:54 Jesus’ teaching on divorce in Luke 16. #6 48:42 Jesus’ teaching on divorce in Matthew 5. #7 50:16 I’ve been taught that marriage is literally unbreakable; that it is ontologically impossible to end unless your spouse dies. What about that? #8 54:26 What did Jesus mean by “sexual immorality”. #9 1:11:00 Jesus’ teaching on divorce in Matthew 19. #10 1:21:22 Jesus’ teaching on divorce in Romans 7. #11 1:28:17 Paul’s teaching in 1 Corinthians 7 vs. 10-16. #12 1:37:54 Does “not enslaved” allow remarriage after divorce in 1 Corinthians 7 vs. 15? #13 1:51:19 When can a Christian spouse be treated like a non-Christian? #14 2:00:49 What about abuse or extreme situations? #15 2:08:25 If you divorce for abuse or extreme situations can you get remarried? #16 2:10:51 Paul’s teaching in 1 Corinthians 7 vs. 17-40. #17 2:19:05 Who are we to disagree with the church fathers? #18 2:31:46 God said, “I hate divorce”, doesn’t that mean you can’t get divorced? #19 2:33:53 What about those who will abuse the exceptions and wrongly divorce? #20 2:36:28 What about alcoholism, gambling, drug use, etc.? #21 2:37:29 What about a marriage that was entered sinfully? Should it be broken up? #22 2:44:05 What about David Instone-Brewer? #23 2:57:06 Should a pastor marry someone who is wrongly divorced? #24 2:58:53 Summary of all 16 biblical principles. #25 3:02:45 What are bad reasons for getting a divorce? #26 3:03:16 Final thoughts. RESOURCE LIST My teaching for husbands. https://youtu.be/65eMggo_xKQ My teaching for wives. https://youtu.be/H8PFVZgIQ2w Know that I don’t endorse these different works. They are resources showing a wide variety of interpretations from the most strict to relatively lenient. If you want to go deep on this topic then I recommend reading several authors, especially those you disagree with. ARTICLES: John Piper, “Divorce and Remarriage: A Position Paper” https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/divorce-and-remarriage-a-position-paper Raymond Westbrook, “The Prohibition on Restoration of Marriage in Deuteronomy 24:1-4” https://www.wisereaction.org/ebooks/westbrook.pdf this is where he gives his case for the first marriage involving a man keeping the ketubah and the second marriage involving the woman getting it. Wayne Grudem, “Grounds for Divorce: Why I Believe There Are More Than Two” (the infamous paper delivered at last year’s ETS) http://www.waynegrudem.com/grounds-for-divorce-why-i-now-believe-there-are-more-than-two/ David Instone-Brewer’s article on ancient marriage and divorce papyri. http://www.tyndalearchive.com/Brewer/MarriagePapyri/1Cor_7a.htm The Damascus Document https://www.academia.edu/28913750/The_Damascus_Document_CD_2005_ Carol Osburn article refuting David Pawson’s view that the Greek shows second marriages are continual adultery. “The Present Indicative in Matthew 19:9” https://digitalcommons.acu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1029&context=restorationquarterly BOOKS: David Pawson - “Remarriage is Adultery Unless…” https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00564TNV2/ Gordon Wenham, “Jesus, Divorce, and Remarriage: In Their Historical Setting” https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B083ZN5ZQ3/ Wenham, Heth & Keener, “Remarriage after Divorce in Today’s Church: 3 Views” https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0050O6P1O/ David Instone-Brewer, “Divorce and Remarriage in the Bible: The Social and Literary Context” https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001Q3L4VY/ See reviews of Instone-Brewer’s work here (Gagnon’s negative review and I-B’s response are particularly interesting) https://www.divorce-remarriage.com/ Craig Keener, “…And Marries Another: Divorce and Remarriage in the Teach

Divorce and Remarriage in the New Testament with David Instone-Brewer This episode follows the previous discussion on divorce and remarriage and the Old Testament with Dr. David Instone-Brewer. Divorce and remarriage are obviously sensitive and difficult subjects. Not surprisingly, the Bible has something to say about both. In this episode we chat with Dr. Instone-Brewer […]

Divorce and Remarriage in the New Testament with David Instone-Brewer This episode follows the previous discussion on divorce and remarriage and the Old Testament with Dr. David Instone-Brewer. Divorce and remarriage are obviously sensitive and difficult subjects. Not surprisingly, the Bible has something to say about both. In this episode we chat with Dr. Instone-Brewer about what how the New Testament handles Old Testament teaching about divorce and remarriage. Specifically, the discussion focuses on the response of Jesus to his Jewish rivals on the question of divorce and Paul’s subsequent teaching in 1 Corinthians 7. Dr. Instone-Brewer is also a pastor, and so the episode includes pastoral advice to the divorced and remarried. Links: Dr. Instone-Brewer’s website on divorce and remarriage Dr. Instone-Brewer’s website for online Bible Study

Divorce and Remarriage in the Old Testament with David Instone-Brewer Divorce and remarriage are obviously sensitive and difficult subjects. Not surprisingly, the Bible has something to say about both. In this episode we chat with Dr. David Instone-Brewer about what the Old Testament teaches about divorce and remarriage, situating the biblical text in its ancient Near Eastern and ancient Jewish contexts. The discussion includes Deut 24:1-4, a major biblical text on the issue, as well as God’s tumultuous relationship with Israel, often depicted by analogy to both marriage and divorce. Links: Dr. Instone-Brewer’s website on divorce and remarriage Dr. Instone-Brewer’s website for online Bible Study

Divorce and Remarriage in the Old Testament with David Instone-Brewer Divorce and remarriage are obviously sensitive and difficult subjects. Not surprisingly, the Bible has something to say about both. In this episode we chat with Dr. David Instone-Brewer about what the Old Testament teaches about divorce and remarriage, situating the biblical text in its ancient […]

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Discussion of an article by Robert A. J. Gagnon on remarriage; contra David Instone-Brewer.

Bible scholar Peter Enns was fired from his position at Westminster Theological Seminary after his views on scripture were deemed to be too liberal. He has continued to question evangelical views of scripture in his book 'The Bible Tells Me So: Why defending Scripture has made us unable to read it'. David Instone-Brewer of Tyndale House, Cambridge discusses why he disagrees with some of Enns' views such as his treatment of the Canaanite passages, Old Testament differences and the Christmas narratives. MP3 of this show http://cdnbakmi.kaltura.com/p/618072/sp/61807200/serveFlavor/entryId/1_m8k7cisq/v/11/flavorId/1_b4ci25j1/name/a.mp3 For Peter Enns http://www.patheos.com/blogs/peterenns/ For David Instone-Brewer http://www.instonebrewer.com/BibleScandals/ For more faith debates visit www.premierchristianradio.com/unbelievable Join the conversation: Facebook and Twitter Get the MP3 podcast of Unbelievable? http://www.kaltura.com/api_v3/getFeed.php?partnerId=618072&feedId=1_jlj47tkv or Via Itunes

In response to listener requests Justin hosts two shows dealing with Homosexuality and Christian faith. This first show addresses the main scriptural passages that relate to homosexuality.  Are the prohibitions against same sex acts in the Old Testament relevant to today?  What is the correct interpretation of the apostle Paul's writing on "homosexual offenders" in Romans, Corinthians and elsewhere?  Were Jonathan and King David gay lovers? Mike Dark of the organisation "Accepting Evangelicals" is a gay Christian in a same sex relationship.  He believes that Old and New Testament prohibitions on homosexuality need to be understood in light of their cultural context and that they do not preclude faithful, loving same sex relationships today. John Richardson (who blogs as the Ugley Vicar) is part of the conservative-evangelical Anglican group Reform.  He believes the remit of scripture clearly stands against all forms of homosexual behaviour. Jeremy Marks of the gay affirming Christian support organisation "Courage UK" explains why they had a radical change of mind on same sex relationships in 2000. For Mike Dark see http://www.acceptingevangelicals.org/ For John Richardson see http://ugleyvicar.blogspot.com/ or http://www.reform.org.uk/ For Jeremy Marks see http://www.courage.org.uk/ For more Christian theological debates visit http://www.premier.org.uk/unbelievable or get the MP3 podcast http://ondemand.premier.org.uk/unbelievable/AudioFeed.aspx or via Itunes If you enjoyed today's programme you may also enjoy:   Unbelievable? 24 Apr 2010 - "Grill a Christian" show - four atheists challenge David Robertson with their objections to faith Unbelievable? 13 Feb 2010 - "What did Jesus really say about Divorce and remarriage?" - David Instone-Brewer debates Andrew Cornes Join the discussion at the Unbelievable? group of the Premier Community http://www.premiercommunity.org.uk/group/unbelievable

Last chance to book: The Reasonable Faith Tour with William Lane Craig 17-26 October http://www.premier.org.uk/craig On today's Show: New Testament Scholar David Instone-Brewer and Bible sceptic Ken Humphreys met in a debte at Gunnersbury Baptist Church, London recently. David argues that the Bible is  reliable source of historical information, Ken Humphreys argues it is not.  Covering archaelogical evidence, the New Testament accounts of Christ and more, they present their case to an audience of sceptics and Christians, followed by Questions. For the full debate visit http://www.gunnersburybaptistchurch.org/events/viewmp3.php?mp3=42-0   For David Instone Brewer see http://www.tyndale.cam.ac.uk/index.php?page=david-instone-brewer   For Ken Humphreys http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/   For more Christian/non-Christian debate visit http://www.premier.org.uk/unbelievable or get the MP3 podcast http://ondemand.premier.org.uk/unbelievable/AudioFeed.aspx or Via Itunes If you enjoyed this progamme you may also enjoy:Unbelievable? 12 June 2010 - The Jesus DiscoveryAdam Bradford and David Instone-Brewer debate Jesus' human identity. Unbelievable? 2 May 2009 "Did Jesus exist?" "Did Jesus Exist?" - Apologist JP Holding & Atheist Ken Humphreys debate.   Join the discussion at the Premier Community http://www.premiercommunity.org.uk/group/unbelievable and via Facebook and Twitter

The second of three shows debating the identity of Jesus. Orthodox Rabbi David Lister talks to New Testament scholar David Instone-Brewer. They discuss the rabbinic credentials of Jesus and why they differ on whether he was the messiah of the Jews. This programme is brought to you in partnership with www.springharvest.org & www.thegodquestion.tv For more resources on the Bible TV series http://www.premier.org.uk/thebible For Rabbi David Lister http://www.edgwareu.com/about/rabbi For David Instone-Brewer http://www.tyndale.cam.ac.uk/index.php?page=david-instone-brewer For more faith debates visit www.premier.org.uk/unbelievable Join the conversation: Facebook and Twitter Get the MP3 podcast of Unbelievable? http://ondemand.premier.org.uk/unbelievable/AudioFeed.aspx or Via Itunes You may also enjoy: Was Jesus the Messiah of the Jews? Rabbi Jonathan Romain vs Stephen Pacht Jesus & Jewishness: are they compatible? Rabbi Shmuley Boteach & Michael Brown debate

Last week to book for Unbelievable? The Conference! http://www.premier.org.uk/reasons David Instone-Brewer is a New Testament Scholar at Tyndale House, Cambridge. He returns to talk about his new book "The Jesus Scandals" and some of the reasons why he believes Jesus' theology doesn't conform to a Calvinist view of God's sovereignty. Does the Parable of the Great Feast contradict the idea of an "elect", did Jesus in some sense believe in "luck", are disasters ordained by God? James White of Alpha and Omega ministries is a Calvinist and responds to David's viewpoint. For The Jesus Scandals http://amzn.to/HiFsHg For David Instone-Brewer http://bit.ly/I44BJ0 For James White http://www.aomin.org/ For more Christian/non-Christian debate visit http://www.premier.org.uk/unbelievable or get the MP3 podcast http://ondemand.premier.org.uk/unbelievable/AudioFeed.aspx or Via Itunes You may also enjoy: Unbelievable? 1 Aug 2009 - Calvinism & predestination Debating doctrine - James White and Roger & Faith Forster debate predestination Unbelievable? 12 June 2010 - The Jesus DiscoveryAdam Bradford and David Instone-Brewer debate Jesus' human identity. Join the conversation at http://www.premiercommunity.org.uk/group/unbelievable and via Facebook and Twitter

On the show this week: The Jesus Scandals is the new book by New Testament Scholar David Instone-Brewer which claims that various aspects of Jesus life and ministry were a scandal to early Christians, and would have never been included in the Gospels if they hadn't really happened.  Today they give us evidence of its reliability. Bob Price is a sceptical Bible Scholar from the US who maintains that it is unlikely that Jesus even existed. Do the "scandals" of Christ's shameful execution, unusual resurrection and the women witnesses support David's case? And what about his claim to have discovered the original arrest warrant for Jesus? For The Jesus Scandals http://amzn.to/HiFsHg For David Instone-Brewer http://bit.ly/I44BJ0 For Bob Price http://www.robertmprice.mindvendor.com/ For more Christian/non-Christian debate visit http://www.premier.org.uk/unbelievable or get the MP3 podcast http://ondemand.premier.org.uk/unbelievable/AudioFeed.aspx or Via Itunes You may also enjoy: Unbelievable? 19 June 2010 - Does the Bible condone slavery? Bob Price & David Instone-Brewer. Unbelievable? 16th April 2011 - Biblical evidence for the Resurrection Bart Ehrman & Mike Licona Join the conversation at http://www.premiercommunity.org.uk/group/unbelievable and via Facebook and Twitter

The Common English Bible is a recently released new translation of Scripture.  An interdenominational team of Bible scholars worked on the project, with thousands of people involved in test readings.  The aim was to produce an accurate, but jargon-free Bible, aimed at today's English reader. Joel B Green, Professor at Fuller Theological Seminary headed the team of NT translators. He discusses some of the unusual choices of phraseology and interpretation with NIV Bible scholar David Instone-Brewer of Tyndale House, Cambridge. Do we need another English translation? Why "Human One" instead of "Son of Man"? Is gender neutral language helpful? Have passages such as 1 Tim 2 been translated to favour an egalitarian theology? Plus questions from listeners. For the Common English Bible http://www.commonenglishbible.com/ Enter the draw for a copy by emailing unbelievable@premier.org.uk  For Joel B Green http://www.fuller.edu/academics/faculty/joel-green.aspx For David Instone-Brewer http://www.tyndale.cam.ac.uk/index.php?page=david-instone-brewer For more Christian/non-Christian debate visit http://www.premier.org.uk/unbelievable or get the MP3 podcast http://ondemand.premier.org.uk/unbelievable/AudioFeed.aspx or Via Itunes   If you enjoyed this progamme you may also enjoy:   Unbelievable? 22 Jan 2011 - Which Translation should we Trust?   Unbelievable? 13 Feb 2010 - Two views on Divorce and Remarriage - David Instone-Brewer & Andrew Corn   Unbelievable? 14 May 2011 - Should women be church leaders?With Christina Rees & John Richardson   Join the conversation at http://www.premiercommunity.org.uk/group/unbelievable and via Facebook and Twitter

In 1995 the Church of England allowed the ordination of Women priests.  But the question of whether the Bible forbids female authority in the church remains. Christina Rees serves on the Archbishop's Council and the General Synod.  She advocates for women in ministry and female Bishops.  John Richardson of the conservative Evangelical grouping Reform within the CofE disagrees with female ordination. They debate Passages in the New Testament that appear to forbid women speaking in Church, the role of husbands and wives and the practical realities of men and women being church leaders.  For Women and the Church http://womenandthechurch.org/ For Christina Rees' book "Apostolic Women, Apostolic Authority" http://www.amazon.co.uk/Apostolic-women-apostolic-authority-transfiguring/dp/1848250401 For John Richardson http://www.ugleyvicar.blogspot.com/ For more Christian/non-Christian debate visit http://www.premier.org.uk/unbelievable or get the MP3 podcast http://ondemand.premier.org.uk/unbelievable/AudioFeed.aspx or Via Itunes If you enjoyed this programme you may also enjoy: Unbelievable? 29 May 2010 - Homosexuality and the Bible This first show addresses the main scriptural passages that relate to homosexuality. Unbelievable? 13 Feb 2010 - Two views on Divorce and Remarriage - David Instone-Brewer & Andrew Corn "What did Jesus really say about Divorce and remarriage?" - David Instone-Brewer debates Andrew Cornes Join the discussion at the Premier Community http://www.premiercommunity.org.uk/group/unbelievable and via Facebook and Twitter

"Unbelievable? The Conference" is available now on DVD - http://www.premier.org.uk/dvd Justin introduces two elements of the conference. Professor John Lennox, Scientist and Christian apologist gave the opening address "What are we apologising for?" We also hear a round table discussion with audience Q&A that took place between Conference speakers David Robertson, David Instone-Brewer, Jay Smith and Mark Roques. They discuss questions on Old Testament reliability, whether apologists need to agree theologically and Osama Bin Laden. These and all 9 seminars from the conference are available on DVD - http://www.premier.org.uk/dvd You can hear more programmes and find great resources at http://www.premier.org.uk/unbelievable For more Christian/non-Christian debate visit http://www.premier.org.uk/unbelievable or get the MP3 podcast http://ondemand.premier.org.uk/unbelievable/AudioFeed.aspx or Via Itunes Join the discussion at the Premier Community http://www.premiercommunity.org.uk/group/unbelievable and via Facebook and Twitter

Today's show begins with details of the forthcoming Unbelievable? apologetics conference in London where Justin will be joined by speakers including John Lennox, Jay Smith, David Instone-Brewer and David Robertson. David Robertson joins Justin for a third round of sceptical questions from Unbelievable? atheist listeners. Andrew in the UK asks about Secular society, Amigo in Japan about trusting scripture and Rob in the Netherlands about Freewill in light of God's omniscience. For David Robertson http://www.solas-cpc.co.uk For Unbelievable? : The Conference www.premier.org.uk/answers For Amigojapan's full story: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhAkY-pwUvg For more Christian/non-Christian debate visithttp://www.premier.org.uk/unbelievable or get the MP3 podcasthttp://ondemand.premier.org.uk/unbelievable/AudioFeed.aspx or Via Itunes If you enjoyed this programme you may also enjoy: Unbelievable? 4 Dec 2010 - "Grill a Christian: Round 2" David Robertson answers questions on miracles, hell and prayer. Unbelievable? 24 Apr 2010 - The "Grill a Christian" show - four atheists challenge David Robertson with their objections to faith Join the discussion at the Premier Communityhttp://www.premiercommunity.org.uk/group/unbelievable and via Facebook and Twitter

Dr Adam Bradford believes he has discovered a significant new insight into Jesus Christ.  In "The Jesus Discovery" he explains why he believes that Jesus was not an unschooled peasant preacher, as many depict him.  Instead, he claims that Jesus came from a middle class family and would have been schooled in Jerusalem's top school of Rabbis.  This, he says, explains how the religious authorities treated him before and after his trial. Is there evidence for this view, and what difference would it make if it were true? New Testament Scholar David Instone-Brewer debates the evidence with Adam. For "The Jesus Discovery" website http://www.thejesusdiscovery.com/ To order the book http://www.templehouse-publishing.com/books.htm For David Instone-Brewer see http://www.tyndale.cam.ac.uk/index.php?page=david-instone-brewer For his work on divorce & remarriage see http://www.instonebrewer.com/divorceremarriage/ For more Christian theological debates visit http://www.premier.org.uk/unbelievable or get the MP3 podcast http://ondemand.premier.org.uk/unbelievable/AudioFeed.aspx or via Itunes If you enjoyed this programme you may also enjoy: Unbelievable? 13 Feb 2010 - "What did Jesus really say about Divorce and remarriage?" - David Instone-Brewer debates Andrew Cornes Unbelievable? 18 Oct 2008 - Why Should I believe in Jesus? Ex-Christian Norman Hansen vs. Amy Orr-Ewing of the Zacharias Trust Join the discussion at the Unbelievable? group of the Premier Community http://www.premiercommunity.org.uk/group/unbelievable

The Bible is often criticised for either supporting or not condemning the institution of slavery.  So how should we treat portions of Scripture in both the Old and New Testaments that relate to slavery?  Why does the Old Testament contain laws regarding the treatment of slaves? Does Paul condemn or affirm the institution? Bob Price is a former US church minister whose doubts about the Bible led him to ultimately reject evangelical Christian faith.  He says that the Bible is a book that reflects the time it was written in.  Slavery was acceptable and the early Christians regrettably followed suit, and did not challenge the prevailing status quo. David Instone-Brewer is a New Testament Scholar at Tyndale House, Cambridge.  He says that, in its cultural context, the Bible goes as far as it can towards an anti-slavery message and that Christians have been at the forefront of anti-slavery movements. For Bob Price see  http://www.robertmprice.mindvendor.com/ For David Instone-Brewer see http://www.tyndale.cam.ac.uk/index.php?page=david-instone-brewer For his Visual Sermons see http://www.visualsermons.co.uk/ For more Christian/non-Christian debates visit http://www.premier.org.uk/unbelievable or get the MP3 podcast http://ondemand.premier.org.uk/unbelievable/AudioFeed.aspx or via Itunes If you enjoyed this programme you may also enjoy: Unbelievable? 20 Feb 2010 - "Is Christianity Good for us?" US atheist Michael Shermer debates Scottish apologist David Robertson Unbelievable? 2 May 2009 -"Did Jesus Exist?" - Apologist JP Holding & Atheist Ken Humphreys debate. Join the discussion at the Unbelievable? group of the Premier Community http://www.premiercommunity.org.uk/group/unbelievable

This week: As part of Premier Radio's coverage of National Marriage Week we look at two different Christian views of Divorce and Remarriage. Andrew Cornes is Vicar of All Saints Crowborough.  He holds to the traditional understanding that Jesus taught divorce is only permissible for adultery, and that the Bible forbids remarriage. David Instone-Brewer is a New Testament scholar from Tyndale House Cambridge.  He believes the church has misunderstood Jesus teaching on divorce.  He claims that Jesus was responding to "any cause" divorce - a Rabbinical view of divorce popular at the time. They debate the Biblical and pastoral issues involved. For David Instone-Brewer visit http://www.divorceremarriage.com For his book "Divorce and Remarriage in the Church" (Paternoster) Click here For Andrew Cornes visit http://www.allsaintscrowborough.org For his book "Divorce and Remarriage: Biblical Principle and Pastoral Practise" (Christian Focus) Click here For Christian/non Christian debate and theology visit http://www.premier.org.uk/unbelievable or get the podcast http://ondemand.premier.org.uk/unbelievable/AudioFeed.aspx or Via itunes If you enjoyed this show you may also enjoy: Unbelievable? 8 Aug 2009 Debating doctrine: Hell - Conditional immortality vs. Eternal conscious torment - James White debates Roger and Faith Forster Unbelievable? 3 Jan 2009 Bart Ehrman & Peter Williams - "Misquoting Jesus: Do we have the original writings of the New Testament?" Join the discussion at the ""Unbelievable?" Group of the Premier Community. http://www.premiercommunity.org.uk/group/unbelievable

Dr. David Instone-Brewer joins Rethinking Hell contributor Chris Date to discuss the nature and scandal of hell as he discusses in his book, The Jesus Scandals: Why He Shocked His Contemporaries (and Still Shocks Today). Links The Jesus Scandals website, www.biblescandals.com Dr. … Continue reading →

Interview with David Instone-Brewer on the Jesus Scandals

Today's interview is with David Instone-Brewer, Senior Research Fellow in Rabbinics and the New Testament at Tyndale House, Cambridge. He talks about the goal and content within The Jesus Scandals, the criteria of embarrassment, the punishment of crucifixion and the shame of the cross, the uniqueness of the resurrection, the betrayal by Judas, Jesus' "scandalous" teachings, the teaching about hell, the virgin birth, the cumulative power of the Gospel accounts, advice for apologists, and more. Pick up David's book The Jesus Scandals here. Book website and excerpts here at BibleScandals.com Enjoy.