People of Pathology Podcast

My guest today is Dr Kene Ojukwu. What we discuss with Dr Ojukwu: How she discovered pathology Educational pursuits: from public health to public policy Community engagement: Knowledge is Power Project Health literacy and dermatopathology education Challenges and innovations in patient-facing pathology Exploring language in medical diagnosis Inclusive pathology education Understanding learning styles in medical education Empowering self-assessment in medical training The human impact of pathology Policy influence in medical training The future of pathology and health equity   Links for this episode: The Path to PathA Pathologists' Assistant Shadowing Network Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning Dress A Med scrubs Digital Pathology Club   The Semantics of Cancer UCLA National Clinician Scholars Program Who is the Teacher and Who is the Student? The Dual Service- and Engaged-Learning Pedagogical Model of Anatomy Academy Pathology Project Wins Back to Bedside Recognition   People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram  

Today my guest is artist Evin Felix. What we discuss with Evin: Her introduction to art through her father Discovering a passion for painting The pathology art series: A healing journey Her artistic process as emotional expression How her work became part of The Healing Art of Pathology book The impact of her art on others Links for this episode: The Path to PathA Pathologists' Assistant Shadowing Network Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning Dress A Med scrubs Digital Pathology Club   Evin's Website The Healing Art of Pathology   People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram  

Today my guests are Dr Meriem Sefta, Chief Diagnostics Officer at Owkin, and Amanda Coble, Senior Director of Product at Proscia.  What we discuss with Amanda and Dr Sefta: The history of Owkin Founding vision and early challenges Deep learning in pathology Mission and Precision Oncology Digital pathology and AI integration Biomarker screening products like MSIntuit CRC Outcome prediction solutions like RLapseRisk BC Partnership with Proscia The future of pathology with AI Interoperability and collaboration Disclaimer: MSIntuit CRC, BRCAura BC, and RlapsRisk BC are under development and not for clinical use. They are not FDA cleared or approved in the USA. BRCAura BC and RlapsRisk BC are developed within the PortrAIt consortium, a french consortium financed by the government within the framework of France 2030 and by the European Union - Next Generation EU within the framework of the France Relance Plan. Owkin interoperability with Proscia's software is for Research Use Only. Not for use in diagnostic procedures. Links for this episode: The Path to PathA Pathologists' Assistant Shadowing Network Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning Dress A Med scrubs Digital Pathology Club   Owkin And Proscia Expand Access To AI Pre-Screening For Colorectal Cancer Patients Owkin Proscia   People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram  

My guest today is Dr Soufiane Azdad, founder of Algoscope. What we discuss with Dr Azdad: His journey into pathology Early experiences and challenges in pathology The Turning Point: Misplaced specimen incident Inspiration from technology and entrepreneurship Founding AlgoScope: The Mission and Vision The future of Digital Pathology Innovations in the grossing process The role of AI and robotics in pathology Utilizing innovation in pathology education and training Envisioning the future of pathology Ethical considerations in pathology Links for this episode: Pathologists' Assistant Shadowing Network Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning Dress A Med scrubs Digital Pathology Club   Algoscope From Grossing to Diagnosis: Why pre-analytics deserves a digital revolution   People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram  

My guest today is Dr Swikrity Baskota. What we discuss with Dr Baskota: How Dr Baskota uses social media to promote pathology Attracting more students to pathology Founding and expanding Match to Path The importance of mentorship Challenges for pathology applicants and how Match To Path can help Free resources on Match to Path Dr Baskota's personal journey into pathology Advancements in cytopathology and AI Advice for aspiring pathologists Links for this episode: Pathologists' Assistant Shadowing Network Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning Dress A Med scrubs Digital Pathology Club   Match To Path: Website Instagram Twitter LinkedIn Dr Swikrity Baskota: Instagram Twitter   People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram  

Today is #PathAssistDay 2025, and my guest is Pathologists' Assistant Marissa Spencer. What we discuss with Marissa: The evolution of PA education and training Personalized teaching approaches The rewarding role of a preceptor The growth and expansion of PA programs across the country PAs in Forensic Pathology The PA's role in teaching residents The Role of PAs in tissue banking Future Directions: technology in pathology Advocating for the PA profession Advice for aspiring PAs and the importance of shadowing   Links for this episode: Pathologists' Assistant Shadowing Network Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning Dress A Med scrubs Digital Pathology Club   American Association of Pathologists' Assistants   People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram  

My guest today is Ashley Kalinauskas, CEO of Torigen Pharmaceuticals. What we discuss with Ashley: How her graduate research at Notre Dame led to the founding of Torigen Pharmaceuticals. Their approach provides an alternative to chemotherapy by using immunotherapy. The company aims to make cancer treatment more accessible and affordable for pet owners. Promising results have been seen in aggressive cancers like hemangiosarcoma. How Torigen is utilizing digital pathology with the Concentriq platform to improve cancer diagnostics. Torigen is conducting research into additional applications, including equine and exotic animal cancers. Studying spontaneous cancer in pets provides valuable insights for human oncology research. Veterinary immunotherapy advancements have the potential to influence human cancer treatments. Immunotherapy is playing an increasingly important role in both veterinary and human medicine.   Links for this episode: Pathologists' Assistant Shadowing Network Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning Dress A Med scrubs Digital Pathology Club   Torigen Pharmaceuticals Evaluation of an autologous cancer vaccine for the treatment of metastatic canine hemangiosarcoma: a preliminary study New Hope For Pets In The Fight Against Cancer: Fast, Accurate Diagnoses From Torigen Pharmaceuticals And Proscia   People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram

Today my guest is Dr Meredith Herman. What we discuss with Dr Herman: The recently published paper titled "#Path Art: From Glass Slide to Canvas with a Mission of Enlightening the Burdens of Life." The inspiration for the paper came from the use of the hashtag #PathArt on social media, where pathologists share artistic representations of histology and pathology. The research involved exploring the historical use of art in pathology, dating back to the 1600s, and its role in education before modern technology. Pathology is inherently visual, making art a natural fit for the field; many pathologists have creative hobbies. The rise of Path Twitter (now Path X) has positively influenced the pathology community, fostering a movement around pathology art. Path art competitions have emerged, promoting interest in pathology among students and the public. Ethical considerations in path art include maintaining patient anonymity and being sensitive to the serious nature of diseases depicted. The importance of intent in sharing art, aiming for education and appreciation rather than trivialization. White Coat Artistry, which Dr Herman started during medical school, and has grown through social media engagement. Dr Herman's journey into pathology beginning with an interest in biomedical laboratory science and was solidified by mentorship from a pathologist.   Links for this episode: Pathologists' Assistant Shadowing Network Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning Dress A Med scrubs Digital Pathology Club   #PathArt: from glass slide to canvas; with a mission of enlightening the burdens of life White Coat Artistry on Etsy Dr Herman on Instagram The Healing Art of Pathology   People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram

Today my guest is Jason Maloney, VP of Customer Experience at Proscia.  What we discuss with Jason: His background in customer-facing roles across various company sizes. Being drawn to Proscia by the opportunity to impact lives through digital pathology. Customer Experience (CX) encompasses professional services, technical support, and customer success, focusing on the post-sale experience. Many companies in the industry focus on product development without adequately addressing customer needs and experiences. Jason applies insights from various industries, emphasizing the importance of treating customers as humans and understanding their workflows. Proscia's CX strategies have led to reduced time to go live with software and improved overall customer satisfaction. Proscia fosters a continuous feedback loop between customers and internal teams, enhancing product development and customer support. Proscia's CX team helps pathologists and researchers integrate AI into their workflows, providing expertise and support. The future focus will be on developing trusted advisor relationships with customers, enhancing customer success initiatives, and deepening problem-solving capabilities.   Links for this episode: Pathologists' Assistant Shadowing Network on LinkedIn Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning Dress A Med scrubs Digital Pathology Club   Proscia Expanded Customer Experience (CX) Practice Enables Users To Realize Value Over 30% Faster   People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram

My guest today is Razik Yousfi, CEO of Paige. What we discuss with Razik: Joined Paige in 2019 as Head of Engineering Transitioned to CEO to lead the organization in focusing on AI strengths Shift from a technical focus to overall company accountability. Increased responsibility in setting vision, strategy, and external representation. Importance of Data in AI AI models depend heavily on the quality of training data. Paige emphasizes diverse datasets to improve model performance. Access to a rich dataset from over 800 institutions in 45 countries. Foundation models enhance the ability to analyze rare cancers and biomarkers. Models trained on large datasets improve application development speed. Microsoft partnership including working with Microsoft Research and Azure. Potential for AI to improve patient care and outcomes through better data integration. Alba Introduction: Launched as a clinical-grade AI co-pilot for pathologists. Some foundation models, like Virchow, have been open-sourced for research. Open-sourcing aims to build trust, encourage benchmarking, and boost the ecosystem. Encourages collaboration and faster application development in pathology   Links for this episode: Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning Dress A Med scrubs Digital Pathology Club   Paige Website   People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram

Today my guest is Angie Dowell from Vistapath.   What we discuss with Angie: Her start in microbiology as a tech in a hospital. Transition to Pathologists' Assistant Her belief AI can improve efficiency by handling repetitive tasks, allowing focus on higher-level thinking. Standardization in Grossing Advantages of Standardized Templates Her role at Vistapath as a Customer Success Manager Impact of AI on Pathology Future of Pathology with AI Links for this episode: Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning Dress A Med scrubs Digital Pathology Club   Vistapath AAPA Grossing Guidelines CAP Cancer Protocols   People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram

Bami Farinre returns to the podcast for an in depth discussion of her new book The Mentor's Journey - From Learning to Leading. The book has been a long time coming, inspired by the Bami's early career experiences in STEM as a biomedical scientist and the need for mentorship. She guest grew up in a community where mentorship was intrinsic and not formally defined, with a strong emphasis on education and support from the community. Bami believes mentorship is crucial for developing future leaders and emphasizes the importance of passing on knowledge. The book is part instructional and part autobiographical, using personal experiences to make it relatable. Emotional Intelligence is essential for managing expectations and emotions in mentorship relationships, fostering trust and open dialogue. Allyship is advocating for inclusion and standing in solidarity with someone, while sponsorship involves actively using influence to create opportunities for someone else. Mentors gain fresh perspectives, sharpen leadership skills, and experience fulfillment from their mentees' successes. Reverse Mentorship: Younger mentees can teach mentors about new technologies and perspectives, enriching the mentor's experience. Bami emphasized the importance of passing on knowledge and creating a legacy through mentorship.   Links for this episode: Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning Dress A Med scrubs Digital Pathology Club   The Mentor's Journey - From Learning to Leading on Amazon   People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram

Anna Dhody is back for Part 2 of our conversation.  What we discuss in Part 2: How the pandemic prompted the Mutter Museum to increase its online presence, leading to a virtual tour that garnered over a million views.   A significant event during this time was the donation of a human heart from a living donor, Rob, who wanted to contribute to the museum after receiving a heart transplant. Anna filmed an unboxing video of the heart, which unexpectedly went viral, attracting a wide audience and generating interest in the museum. The success of the heart unboxing led to a series of educational videos about the preservation and display of biological specimens. Anna's videos fostered a community where viewers shared personal stories and experiences related to medical conditions, leading to increased awareness and support. After leaving the museum, Anna founded the Dhody Research Institute to continue her work in science communication and education. The institute aims to increase accessibility to medical and scientific information and inspire young people to explore STEM careers. Anna is developing new video series, including "What's That For?" which invites viewers to guess the purpose of medical objects and learn their stories. The Dhody Research Institute is running a fundraising campaign to support the production of more educational content. Anna emphasized the importance of educating young people to become informed citizens and critical thinkers in today's world. Links for this episode: Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning Dress A Med scrubs Digital Pathology Club   Dhody Research Institute Former Mütter Museum forensic anthropologist launches research institute Dhody Research Institute on Instagram Dhody Research Institute on YouTube Former Curator Anna Dhody has launched the Dhody Research Institute! (and you can help)   People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram

My guest today is Forensic Anthropologist Anna Dhody. What we talk about with Anna in part 1: Anna initially studied archaeology, influenced by visits to the Penn Museum in Philadelphia as a child. She developed a passion for archaeology at a young age, around 9 or 10 years old. Chose Boston University for its separate archaeology department, which offered more opportunities than those combined with anthropology departments. After attending an excavation in Belize during her sophomore year, she became interested in biological anthropology, focusing on human bones and their stories. She realized the competitive nature of academia and planned to pursue a master's in forensic science instead of a PhD. Anna wrote a thesis manual titled "The Underground Crime Scene" for law enforcement on how to excavate buried crime scenes, which gained unexpected international circulation. Applied for jobs after graduation and was scouted by the CIA but ultimately accepted a position at Harvard's Peabody Museum due to the need for osteologists for a NAGPRA project. Worked at the Peabody Museum for four years, taking advantage of free classes and gaining valuable experience. Became involved with a United Nations project in Peru to train local medical personnel in forensic anthropology, which turned into a significant teaching role. Returned from Peru and took a temporary position at the Mütter Museum in Philadelphia.  What was initially meant to last five months ended up lasting nearly 20 years.  Anna's career path was shaped by a combination of luck and the challenges faced in the museum world, emphasizing the importance of seizing opportunities. Links for this episode: Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning Dress A Med scrubs Digital Pathology Club   Dhody Research Institute Former Mütter Museum forensic anthropologist launches research institute   Dhody Research Institute on Instagram  Former Curator Anna Dhody has launched the Dhody Research Institute (and you can help)   People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram

Today my guest is Dr Matt Cecchini. What we discuss with Dr Cecchini: His journey into pathology Initiatives to engage students in pathology His use of novel teaching methods like YouTube Application of large language models (LLMs) in pathology education Synthetic data and how it can be used in education Agentic AI and its role in pathology education Ethical concerns with LLMs The future of LLMs in education Links for this episode: Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning Dress A Med scrubs Digital Pathology Club   Harnessing the Power of Generative Artificial Intelligence in Pathology Education: Opportunities, Challenges, and Future Directions   People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram

Julianna Ianni from Proscia joins me today. What we discuss with Julianna: Her background in biomedical engineering and biomedical imaging. Transition from radiology to pathology and the overlap between the two fields. Role as VP of AI Research and Development at Proscia, focusing on AI applications in digital pathology. An overview of foundation models Embeddings and their role in feature extraction from data Concentriq Embeddings by Proscia: The importance of data diversity in training AI models Importance of collaboration with other companies in developing AI solutions. Future possibilities for foundation models in pathology, including multimodal applications. Links for this episode: Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning Dress A Med scrubs Digital Pathology Club   Concentriq Embeddings Overview "How Proscia's AI R&D Team Leveraged Foundation Models at Scale to Build 80 Breast Cancer Biomarker Prediction Models in Under 24 Hours" Foundation Models For Pathology AI Development At Your Fingertips Accelerating Tumor Segmentation Model Development with Concentriq Embeddings The Hidden Costs of AI Development in Pathology and How Concentriq Embeddings Helps Life Sciences Organizations Mitigate Them   People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram

My guest today is Jon Odle from Pramana. What we discuss with Jon: Overview of Pramana and its scanning technology Importance of QA/QC in digital pathology Challenges in scaling digital pathology, including labor costs The role of AI in digital pathology and its potential as a diagnostic aid The concept of Digital Pathology as a Service (DPAAS) Advantages of DPAAS, including cost-effectiveness and reduced labor The Mayo Clinic project to digitize 12 million slides Challenges faced during the Mayo project, including slide quality issues The importance of interoperability and standardization in digital pathology Future plans for Pramana Links for this episode: Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning Dress A Med scrubs Digital Pathology Club   Pramana Inside the Digitization of Mayo Clinic's Tissue Registry Archive   People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram

My guest today is Pathologist Dr Emily Volk. Mentorship played a significant role in her career, guiding her decisions and shaping her path. Dr. Volk became involved with the College of American Pathologists (CAP) through a mentor, who encouraged her to join the cytopathology committee. Dr. Volk was elected to the CAP Board of Governors and later became the president, serving during the COVID-19 pandemic. Key accomplishments during her presidency included establishing the Council on Informatics and Pathology Innovation (CIPI) and navigating the implications of the Dobbs decision on pathology practice. She emphasizes the importance of pathologists as advocates for patients and the need to communicate effectively about pathology reports. Dr. Volk has started creating short videos on social media to educate patients and share leadership insights, inspired by a friend in the business world. She discusses the concept of "first do no harm" in leadership, advocating for thoughtful responses rather than rushing to action. Dr. Volk shares a personal story about her father's reaction to her language in one instance, emphasizing the importance of treating patients with respect and dignity. She addresses concerns about a study linking tattoos to lymphoma, highlighting the difference between association and causation in medical research. Dr. Volk believes it is crucial for pathologists to continue promoting their field and educating patients about the role of pathologists in their care.   Links for this episode: Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning Dress A Med scrubs Digital Pathology Club   Dr Emily Volk on Instagram College of American Pathologists Council on Informatics and Pathology Innovation   People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram

Dr Allison Goldberg is a cytopathologist, and Director of the Cytopathology Fellowship at Thomas Jefferson University.. What we discuss with Dr Goldberg: How her father's work in pharmaceutical industry on AIDS medications helped to inspire her career path How she found satisfaction in surgical procedures and the operating room environment initially Inspired by a conversation with a pathologist mom she made the transition to pathology How she tailors fellowship experiences based on goals and backgrounds of individual fellows Impact of AI in Pathology, including assisting in tasks like identifying specific cells and estimating percentages AI may not replace pathologists but can enhance certain aspects of pathology Importance of Leadership Roles in Pathology Pathologists should advocate for patient care and be involved in decision-making processes Personalized medicine and molecular testing advancements Emphasizing lifelong learning and curiosity to adapt to upcoming changes in the field   Links for this episode: LabVine Laboratory Transformation Seasonal School Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning Dress A Med scrubs Digital Pathology Club   Thomas Jefferson University Cytopathology Fellowship Program   People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram

Nathan Buchbinder from Proscia returns to discuss Proscia's Precision Medicine AI Portfolio. The portfolio includes leading AI applications available on the Concentriq platform. The portfolio streamlines the process of deploying, supporting, and using AI applications in pathology. The portfolio includes applications from Proscia and other developers, including Ibex, Visiopharm, Stratipath, DoMore Diagnostics, Mindpeak, Nucleai. Collaboration with other vendors and developers is important to address the variety of AI applications needed and helps streamline the process. Multi-AI workflows on Concentriq enable the simultaneous use of multiple AI applications on a single image or work list. The Precision Medicine AI portfolio supports analysis of various tissue types, with a growing portfolio. The partnership with Nucleai enhances the functionality of Concentriq by incorporating AI biomarkers. Proscia's is focused on expanding the Precision Medicine AI portfolio, making platform enhancements, and adding new functionality. Proscia is not the legal manufacturer of the products available in its precision medicine AI portfolio and pipeline. Certain products may only be available for diagnostic use in select geographies. Please contact Proscia for availability of an application in your geography. Multi-AI workflows are available on Concentriq AP. Concentriq AP is for research use only. Not for use in diagnostic procedures.   Links for this episode: Labvine Laboratory Transformation Seasonal School Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning Dress A Med scrubs Digital Pathology Club   Concentriq AP: A New Era of AI in Pathology Webinar   People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram

Dr Denise Gemmellaro is a forensic entomologist, and my guest today.   We discuss how she initially pursued medical school but found it was not for her.   She found forensic entomology to be a complete and engaging field that allowed her to work on real cases and teach. Dr. Gemmellaro emphasized the importance of students realizing they can change their career path and explore different avenues. Forensic entomology involves the study of insects and arthropods in medico-legal investigations, providing valuable information on the circumstances of death and post-mortem events. In entomotoxicology, substances found in maggots can indicate what was present in the body prior to death, aiding in toxicology analysis. Dr. Gemmellaro has conducted training for law enforcement in forensic entomology, emphasizing the importance of proper evidence collection and handling. She has also been involved in international projects in Africa and Central America to introduce forensic science and inspire local professionals in the field. Dr. Gemmellaro encourages those interested in forensic entomology to explore entomology programs and resources, as well as consider related fields like law enforcement or lab technician roles.   Links for this episode: Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning Dress A Med scrubs Digital Pathology Club   Dr Denise Gemmellaro email American Board of Forensic Entomology The ESA (Entomological Society of America) ESA pages listing the entomology programs in the US: here and here   People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram

Today Dr Ritcha Saxena returns to the podcast.   She integrated virtual teaching methods into her educational approach, including online lectures, Zoom discussions, and virtual microscopy. Dr. Saxena was involved in a study analyzing pathology education in medical schools in the U.S. and other countries, focusing on curriculum content, teaching methods, and instructional time allocation. The study showed differences in pathology education between the U.S. and other countries, with more lecture hours and active learning strategies outside the U.S. We discuss the 2010 Carnegie Foundation report on medical education reform, emphasizing integration of basic sciences with clinical training and active learning strategies. She is currently working on integrating pathology into interprofessional education and writing a manual on AI's impact on medical education. Dr. Saxena is dedicated to promoting diversity, equity, and inclusion in healthcare education and has received recognition for her contributions in this area. Links for this episode: Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning Dress A Med scrubs Digital Pathology Club   Pathology teaching in different undergraduate medical curricula within and outside the United States: a pilot study Group for Research In Pathology Education   People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram

Jacob Guggenheim is head of engineering at Vistapath.  Their innovative Sentinel is bringing AI to specimen grossing.  Jacob's background in bioengineering and robotics led him to join Vistapath Vistapath's mission is to improve the efficiency and accuracy of the histology process, inspired by a real-world incident The Sentinel is designed to augment human capabilities in grossing specimens, not replace humans An accomplishment Jacob is proud of is the impact of the Sentinel in providing confidence to grossing technicians through photographic evidence The future of Vistapath includes expanding the capabilities of the Sentinel to gross a wider range of tissue and leveraging data collected during grossing for downstream processes AI is already transforming pathology, but the data bottleneck is a significant barrier that needs to be addressed for further impact   Links for this episode: Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning Dress A Med scrubs Digital Pathology Club   Vistapath First Robotics Superlimbs Agile Development   People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram

My guests today are Dr Simone Arvisais-Anhalt and Dr Daniel Qazi.    We discussed the benefits of using LLMs in pathology, including creating outlines, data analysis, and translating reports for patients There are also challenges in the use LLMs, such as hallucinations and bias Dr. Arvisais-Anhalt and Dr. Qazi described their study on using LLMs in clinical practice They were some interesting findings from the study, including different use cases and limitations of the tool We talked about future plans to implement retrieval augmented generation for tailored responses in pathology and laboratory medicine Links for this episode: Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning Dress A Med scrubs Digital Pathology Club   Establishing priorities for implementation of large language models in pathology and laboratory medicine What is Retrieval Augmented Generation?   People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram

Jospeh Mossel co-founded Ibex in 2016. Since its inception, Ibex has remained committed to developing AI applications for clinical diagnostics. The company achieved its first milestone in 2018 by deploying its first algorithm for prostate cancer. This algorithm not only enhanced diagnostic efficiency but also detected a diagnostic error, demonstrating the value of AI in pathology. Over the years, IBEX has expanded its offerings to include algorithms for breast and gastric cancers, facing challenges due to the unique characteristics of each tissue type. However, through partnerships with healthcare organizations and pharmaceutical companies, IBEX has continued to innovate and grow. This conversation covers the history of Ibex and some of their milestones.  We conclude with a look toward the future of AI in pathology.    Links for this episode: Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning Dress A Med scrubs Digital Pathology Club   Ibex Medical Analytics An artificial intelligence algorithm for prostate cancer diagnosis in whole slide images of core needle biopsies: a blinded clinical validation and deployment study   People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram

My guests today are Imogen Fitt from Signify Research and Nathan Buchbinder from Proscia.  We discuss emerging trends in pathology, including: The current technology with the most significant impact in the field of pathology has been artificial intelligence (AI). AI has stirred up imaginations about the future of pathology and has accelerated the timeline for seeing its impact. Return on investment in digital pathology has shifted from being a challenge to becoming an opportunity that drives adoption. Pathologists are not being replaced by AI but rather augmented by it to make their work easier and more efficient. Precision medicine is a key emerging trend in pathology, with a focus on clinical biomarkers, companion diagnostics, and personalized treatment pathways. Telepathology plays a crucial role in improving access to pathology services, especially in underserved areas and remote locations. Collaboration among digital pathology companies is driven by customer demand for interoperability and seamless integration of technologies. The future of pathology technology is likely to focus on precision medicine, clinical biomarkers, companion diagnostics, digital pathology storage, compression algorithms, robotics, and value-based care.   Links for this episode: Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning Dress A Med scrubs Digital Pathology Club   Signify Research Proscia   People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram

Today my guest is Dr. Bronwyn Bryant, a pathologist and pathology educator. Dr. Bryant has been involved in the National EPA Working Group, focused on implementing Entrustable Professional Activities (EPAs) in pathology residency programs. The group conducted a pilot study on EPAs and is now working on developing an electronic tool to facilitate the completion of EPAs in real-time. Dr. Bryant is passionate about using EPAs to provide more specific and actionable feedback to residents, ultimately improving the learning and assessment experiences. She is also interested in studying the impact of EPAs on resident training. Dr. Bryant emphasizes the importance of faculty development in using EPAs effectively and believes that this method can lead to a culture shift in pathology education. Links for this episode: Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning Dress A Med scrubs Digital Pathology Club   National pilot of entrustable professional activities in pathology residency training Leveraging faculty development to support validation of entrustable professional activities assessment tools in anatomic and clinical pathology training   People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram

Pathology observerships offer a unique opportunity for medical students and recent graduates to gain firsthand experience and insights into the dynamic field of pathology. These structured programs provide participants with the chance to observe experienced pathologists at work, learn about various laboratory techniques, and understand the diagnostic process involved in analyzing tissue specimens.  In this episode, we delve into the significance of pathology observerships and how they contribute to the professional development of aspiring pathologists. Links for this episode: Path Elective Match To Path - Guide To Pathology Residency FREIDA - Search List For Residency Programs   Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning Dress A Med scrubs Digital Pathology Club   People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram  

Pathologists' Assistant Marissa Spencer returns to the podcast and we take a deep dive into the concept of teaching "why" vs teaching "how." Understanding the Why: Marissa emphasized the significance of not just memorizing steps but truly understanding the rationale behind each action in pathology. By grasping the "why" behind the procedures, learners can apply their knowledge effectively to different cases, ensuring thorough and accurate work. Utilizing Specimen Photography: Marissa highlighted the underutilized value of specimen photography in pathology. Photos of normal specimens serve as invaluable reference points for learners, aiding in the recognition of abnormalities and enhancing descriptive skills. By capturing images of both normal and abnormal findings, learners can enhance their understanding and communication in the field. Enhancing Gross Description Skills: Marissa shared practical tips for improving gross description skills, such as avoiding generic terms like "unremarkable" and instead focusing on detailed and descriptive language. By describing normal findings accurately, learners can build confidence in articulating abnormalities, ultimately leading to more precise and effective communication in pathology.   Links for this episode: Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning Dress A Med scrubs Digital Pathology Club  

My guests today are Elizabeth Wingard and Dr Dave Wilbur from Corista. Liz and Dr. Wilbur discussed the evolution of digital pathology and the need for open systems in the field. This goal was realized with Corista's Digital Pathology Processing Platform (DP3). They shared insights into their backgrounds and how they got involved in healthcare technology and pathology. The conversation touched on the importance of collaboration between radiology and pathology, leading to the partnership between Corista and AGFA Healthcare. We discussed some of the features of DP3, such as the Digital Slide Tray, and Digital Microscope Stage.   Then Dr Wilbur and Liz gave us a glimpse of what Corista has in store for the future.     Links for this episode: Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning Dress A Med scrubs Digital Pathology Club   Corista Corista Announces Partnership with AGFA HealthCare to Enhance Digital Pathology Integration in Healthcare Corista's DP3 Image Management System for Digital Pathology Earns CE Mark Under IVDR for Routine Pathology Diagnosis   People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram

Mateo Lopez is Director of Customer Success at Vistapath. In this episode we discuss the future of AI in pathology grossing.  Mateo shares his journey from PA to industry, the founding story of Vistapath, and the innovative Sentinel grossing station. We talk about how the Sentinel uses AI to streamline grossing, improve accuracy, and enhance the pathology workflow.  Finally, we discuss how PAs and others can best prepare for using AI tools to augment their skills.     Links for this episode: Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning Dress A Med scrubs Digital Pathology 101 Book   Vistapath    People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram

In this episode, David West discusses Proscia's recent 510K clearance for Concentric AP-DX software. The conversation delves into the significance of 510 k clearance, explaining its role in regulatory approval for medical devices. David highlights the company's global success and previous clearances in Europe, offering insights into the journey of bringing innovative software to laboratories worldwide. We discuss not only the importance of this clearance to Proscia, but also to digital pathology as a whole.     Links for this episode: Proscia Proscia Receives FDA 510(k) Clearance For Concentriq AP-Dx Welcome To Concentriq AP-DX Webinar   Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning Dress A Med scrubs Digital Pathology Club     People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram

Dr. Aleksandra Zuraw returns to the podcast to discuss her new book, Digital Pathology 101: All You Need to Know to Start and Continue Your Digital Pathology Journey. The book is not only meant as an introduction to digital pathology, but also as a valuable resource for those who already have some knowledge of the field. It covers a wide range of topics, from digital pathology milestones and the basics of digital pathology, to advanced computer vision principles and image analysis techniques. By balancing the needs of both beginners and intermediate learners, Dr. Zuraw has created a valuable resource that can benefit a wide range of readers. We discuss the concept of the "learning mentality," and why it is important in digital pathology.  We also talk about the role of toxicologic pathology in drug development.   Links for this episode: Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning The ConfLab from LabVine Dress A Med scrubs   Digital Pathology 101 - E book Digital Pathology Club Digital Pathology Place Digital Pathology Podcast Digital Pathology Association Webinars   People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram

On this episode Dr Rodney Rohde discusses his involvement with the ASCP's Blueprint for Action to address workforce shortages in the laboratory. He highlights the efforts of various organizations to create solutions and improve the situation, emphasizing that the workforce challenges existed prior to COVID-19 but were exacerbated by the pandemic.  Dr. Rohde explains the importance of aligning titles and credentials across different organizations and programs to create a unified identity for medical laboratory scientists. Transitioning from various titles like CLS (Clinical Laboratory Scientist) to MLS (Medical Laboratory Scientist) can establish a clear and recognizable identity that reflects the rigorous education and critical role these professionals play in healthcare. The process of standardizing titles and credentials involves collaboration with professional organizations, regulatory bodies, and educational institutions. Dr. Rohde shares his journey of leading the effort to change the program name at Texas State University from CLS to MLS. This two-year process involved collecting data, engaging with faculty, alumni, and students, navigating institutional procedures, and obtaining approvals at various levels within the university. Links for this episode: Pathology 101 for Tissue Image Analysis  Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning The ConfLab from LabVine Dress A Med scrubs   Workforce in the Shadow of Healthcare –An Update on the Survival Status of Laboratory Medicine and Public Health Facing Massive Labor Shortage, ASCP Committed to Expanding Medical Laboratory Workforce The Clinical Laboratory Workforce: Understanding the Challenges to Meeting Current and Future Needs Aligning Educational Program Titles to the Medical Laboratory Science Career   People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram

Jeff Rhude is the VP of Technical Operations at Proscia.  Today we discuss the use of cloud-based technologies in digital pathology. Cloud-based storage offers significant advantages over traditional on-premises solutions in the field of digital pathology. The episode highlights several key benefits that make cloud storage a compelling choice for storing sensitive patient data and large image files in pathology. Cloud-based storage offers superior data durability, security, and recovery capabilities.  It also allows for access to the latest AI capabilities.   AI technologies, such as ChatGPT, have already shown significant improvements in various industries, including healthcare. With cloud computing, Pathologists can leverage AI tools to enhance their diagnostic capabilities, streamline workflows, and improve patient outcomes. However, resistance to technology can lead to being left behind in a rapidly advancing field.  So it is important to embrace technology to keep up with the rapidly changing pathology field.    Links for this episode: Pathology 101 for Tissue Image Analysis  Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning The ConfLab from LabVine Dress A Med scrubs   Proscia Website Cloud technologies in digital pathology: taking pathology to the cloud from Pathology News   People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram

The MyPathologyReport website was created by Dr. Jason Wasserman, a pathologist, with the goal of providing patients with a better understanding of their pathology reports. Dr. Wasserman recognized the need for patients to have access to clear and concise information about their diagnosis. Initially, the website started with a glossary of common pathology terms, such as atypia, dysplasia, and margins. It then expanded to include diagnostic articles that break down the different elements of a pathology report and provide more information about specific diagnoses. These articles were written with a focus on simplifying complex pathology terminology, making them accessible to patients. The feedback from patients has been overwhelmingly positive, with many expressing gratitude for the website's resources and assistance in understanding their reports. The website has also gained recognition from patient advocacy groups and medical organizations, who appreciate the effort to make pathology more accessible to patients.   Links for this episode: Pathology 101 for Tissue Image Analysis  Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning The ConfLab from LabVine Dress A Med scrubs   MyPathologyReport For Patients, Demystifying Pathology Reports in CAP Today   People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram

In this episode, Olivia Josephsen and I take you step by step through how to get shadowing opportunities. While this is about pathologists assistants, these tips can be used in any laboratory profession.   We explain how to find someone to shadow, and how to contact them.  While shadowing, it is important to ask questions, and we tell you why.   After shadowing you should follow up with the person you shadowed, especially if you intend to ask them for a letter of recommendation. Shadowing isn't all about the student either.  Listen to find out how the person being shadowed can gain from it too.   We talk about virtual shadowing, and how it is a good option to increase availability of shadowing opportunities. If you're an experienced PA who is open to being shadowed, add #PathAShadow to your social media so students can find you.  Links for this episode: Pathology 101 for Tissue Image Analysis  Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning The ConfLab from LabVine Dress A Med scrubs   Olivia on Twitter Olivia on Instagram Lethally Blonde Gifts on Etsy   People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram

In this podcast episode, I speak with Katie Maloney, a principal at DeciBio, a precision medicine consulting company. We discuss the importance of partnerships in driving innovation and adoption in the field of digital pathology. Katie explains that partnerships are crucial in addressing the complexity and interoperability challenges in digital pathology, as well as meeting the needs of different stakeholders, including healthcare organizations, biopharma companies, and clinical labs. She also highlights the shift from interoperability-focused partnerships to those focused on clinical and research adoption, signaling a potential inflection point in the field. Katie emphasizes the importance of pathologists' input in shaping the future of digital pathology and predicts that as pain points are addressed and financial incentives come into play, the adoption of digital pathology tools will continue to grow. Overall, the conversation provides valuable insights into the current state and future prospects of digital pathology.   Links for this episode: Pathology 101 for Tissue Image Analysis  Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning The ConfLab from LabVine Dress A Med scrubs   2023 Partnership Update - An Adoption Inflection on the Horizon DeciBio   People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram

Amanda Coble is a pathologists' assistant with a diverse career path. After completing her education, she worked as a pathologists' assistant and also took on management activities, such as designing a new anatomic pathology laboratory space and participating in the selection and implementation of a new laboratory information system (LIS). Her experience in managing the LIS led her to explore a career in product management, gaining experience in understanding customer needs, working with software engineering teams, and rolling out new products. In 2021, Amanda joined Proscia and is now the Director of Product Management.  Amanda believes that better collaboration between the clinical and industry parties is crucial for advancing digital pathology. This includes sharing real-world data for AI development, improving interoperability between systems, and working towards standardization, such as the use of DICOM format. She sees AI playing a significant role in triaging workflow, automating routine tasks, and unlocking new insights and functionality in pathology.   Links for this episode: Pathology 101 for Tissue Image Analysis  Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning The ConfLab from LabVine Dress A Med scrubs   Learn More About Proscia    People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram

Susan Stillman recently became the program director of the new Pathologist Assistant Program at Carroll University. In this episode, we discuss Susan's background and how she became interested in the field of pathology. We also talk about her transition into teaching and the process of starting a pathologist assistant program. Susan shares her thoughts on the future of the field and the importance of effective communication in the medical profession. We also discuss the use of technology in the program and the changing roles of pathologist assistants. Links for this episode: Pathology 101 for Tissue Image Analysis  Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning The ConfLab from LabVine Dress A Med scrubs   Carroll University Pathologists' Assistant Program   People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram

Dr Lisa Monetti is a Forensic Anthropologist and Bioarcaeologist specializing in the analysis of burned and cremated remains.  Today we talk about some of the overlap of methods between these two fields.  Dr Monetti tries to make these methods more accessible, in order to create a more diverse field.  She discusses the importance of collaboration, and gives some examples of this from her own career.     Links for this episode: Pathology 101 for Tissue Image Analysis  Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning The ConfLab from LabVine Dress A Med scrubs   Contact Dr Monetti here Drew University Anthropology and Archaeology Department Researcher uses Fulbright Grant to investigate unsolved mysteries in Belize   People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram

Casey Wahl is Senior Product Manager for Core Platform and AI at Proscia. She has been working in the digital pathology space since 2019. We discuss the innovation boom happening in pathology and the benefits of going digital. Casey talks about the increasing importance of artificial intelligence in pathology, as it enables faster analysis and new workflows for precision medicine.  This episode highlights the intersection of technology and healthcare, showcasing the potential of digital pathology to improve access to care and have a profound impact on patients' lives.   Links for this episode: Pathology 101 for Tissue Image Analysis  Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning The ConfLab from LabVine Dress A Med scrubs   Proscia Automated QC The Significance of Robust Validation in Automated Quality Control Solutions   People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram

Dr Tracy Davis is a Dermatopathologist and Certified Professional Coach.  Today we discuss her career path into pathology and dermatopathology.  She also tells us about a few of her interests in pathology, including digital pathology, AI, mentoring, and teaching.  Dr Davis explains how working with a coach was a transformative experience for her, and inspired her to become a coach herself.  We discuss some of her coaching methodologies, and talk about her blog, The Happy Physician.     Links for this episode: Pathology 101 for Tissue Image Analysis  Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning The ConfLab from LabVine Dress A Med scrubs   The Happy Physician The Happy Physician Blog Identification of a Novel Structural Variant of the α6 Integrin Tal Ben Shahar   People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram

Sarah Sabatino is the anatomy labs program manager at Drexel University's medical school. She also works as a per diem autopsy technician for three local counties and is involved in the body donor program. In this role she serves as a liaison with families and helps manage the distribution of donated cadavers to medical and dental schools. Sarah has a masters degree in forensic medicine and has a passion for teaching anatomy to medical and graduate students. She believes in chasing your passions and continuously educating yourself about different career paths.   Links for this episode: Pathology 101 for Tissue Image Analysis  Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning The ConfLab from LabVine Dress A Med scrubs   Drexel University Body Donor Program  Sara Sabatino's Story - Forensic Medicine Program   People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram

Dr David Klimstra is a Pathologist, Chief Medical Officer and Cofounder of Paige.  Today we will learn about his career path and motivation to become a doctor, and his interest in GI pathology. We will also talk about the evolution of subspecialization in pathology, the benefits and drawbacks of subspecialization, and the importance of understanding how diagnoses impact patient treatment. The episode discusses the benefits of digital pathology and the application of AI in driving its adoption, as well as the initial resistance to digital pathology and the changes that have occurred over time. We will also learn about the Paige platform, its interoperability and unique features, and the significance of Paige Prostate Detect as the first FDA-approved AI-based pathology product. The episode highlights the efficiency and time-saving benefits of using AI algorithms in pathology, and the potential benefits of AI in predicting response to therapy and providing more impactful clinical information. The future of pathology with regards to AI is also discussed with Dr Klimstra, including the integration of data from multiple sources and the role of AI as decision support for pathologists.    Links for this episode: Pathology 101 for Tissue Image Analysis  Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning The ConfLab from LabVine Dress A Med scrubs   Paige  Dr David Klimstra Joins Paige As Chief Medical Officer Passionate Pioneers: Transforming Cancer Diagnosis and Treatment with Artificial Intelligence with Dr. David Klimstra   People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram

Today my guest is Pathologist Dr Sheela Upreti Dr Upreti is the author of From Specimen to Sign Out, Anatomic Pathology Explained, which aims to provide accessible and helpful information for health professionals, including junior pathology residents, as well as potentially benefiting patients. She discusses her experience and insights on the role of pathologists in multidisciplinary meetings, emphasizing the importance of communication and collaboration in these meetings, where pathologists can provide valuable insights and suggest further actions based on their access to information and ancillary tests. Dr Upreti also highlights the impact of clinical history on the diagnostic process and dispels the misconception that providing pathologists with too much clinical information may bias their diagnosis. She discusses the limited exposure to pathology in medical school and the declining number of medical students going into pathology, hoping that her book will help reverse this trend.  Finally, she discusses the future of pathology education, focusing on technology, collaboration, and the potential of virtual reality in simulating pathology procedures and providing access to different types of specimens.  Links for this episode: Pathology 101 for Tissue Image Analysis  Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning The ConfLab from LabVine Dress A Med scrubs   From Specimen to Sign-Out: Anatomic Pathology Explained Royal College Of Pathologists of Australasia   People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram

Today my guest is Pathology Resident Dr Casey Schukow We discuss the challenges of balancing personal and professional life in the healthcare field. Dr Schukow emphasizes the importance of fulfilling one's needs and learning to compartmentalize. He also reflect on his decision to pursue pathology as a career and the fulfillment he has found in this work. Dr Schukow also talks about his experience starting the Bone and Soft Tissue Pathology podcast, and leveraging social media for education and awareness in the field. He highlights the benefits of online platforms and the potential for free fellowship-level education. He also shares his journey into medicine, an initial interest in orthopedics and dermatology, and the ultimate decision to pursue pathology. He discusses his fascination with bone and soft tissue pathology and the complexity and intrigue of the field. Finally, Dr Schukow emphasizes the importance of pathology in helping patients and his desire to contribute to the community through his work. Links for this episode: Pathology 101 for Tissue Image Analysis  Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning The ConfLab from LabVine Dress A Med scrubs   Dr Schukow on Twitter Bone And Soft Tissue Pathology Podcast KiKo   People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram

Dr Bilal Ahmad is the managing director of the Spectrum Healthcare Partners Pathology Division.  He has been using digital technology for ancillary testing, such as TCPC FISH, flow cytometry, and IHC interpretation for many years. As a managing director, Dr Ahmad is now leading the digital pathology initiative and trying to steer the ship in the right direction. He believes that digital pathology is the future of pathology and sees it as an opportunity to fix many of the current issues and realize benefits that we may not even recognize yet. However, he also acknowledges that digital pathology is not a homogeneous entity and that there are many different types of digital pathology. Dr Ahmad recommends that pathology groups define their current state and what they hope to achieve before jumping to a solution with vendors and software. Links for this episode: Pathology 101 for Tissue Image Analysis  Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning The ConfLab from LabVine Dress A Med scrubs   Spectrum Healthcare Partners Proscia Spectrum Healthcare Partners Taps Proscia To Democratize Cancer Diagnosis   People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram

Today my guest is Pathologist Dr Richard Levenson We discuss his career path so far, including how he discovered pathology.  Dr Levenson talks about his work in slide free imaging, which he started doing early in his career.  Slide free imaging has the potential to significantly decrease turnaround time, while providing more information than the standard H&E slide.  We also talk about the use of AI in pathology, some of the potential downsides, and what could be done about them.  Links for this episode: Pathology 101 for Tissue Image Analysis  Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning The ConfLab from LabVine Dress A Med scrubs   AI In Pathology - What Could Possibly Go Wrong Dual-mode emission and transmission microscopy for virtual histochemistry using hematoxylin- and eosin-stained tissue sections   People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram

Today my guest is Pathologist Dr Tom Grogan Dr. Grogan is the founder of Ventana and the author of Chasing the Invisible: A Doctor's Quest to Abolish the Last Unseen Cancer Cell. He talks about his journey in both pathology and business, as well as his upbringing and living in countries going through revolutions. He developed the first automated IHC stainer due to a realization of the need for such technology. The book chronicles his quest to bring this idea to reality.   Links for this episode: Pathology 101 for Tissue Image Analysis  Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning The ConfLab from LabVine Dress A Med scrubs   Chasing The Invisible: A Doctor's Quest To Abolish The Last Unseen Cancer Cell Roche Tissue Diagnostics   People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram

Today my guest is Pathologist Dr Derek Welch  What we discuss with Dr Welch: Why he chose medical school and how he discovered pathology How he joined PathGroup and his current role as Chief Medical Officer The collaboration between PathGroup and Proscia His thoughts on the future of artificial intelligence in pathology How pathology data can be used in precision medicine and why pathologists should be part of this Links for this episode: Pathology 101 for Tissue Image Analysis  Health Podcast Network  LabVine Learning The ConfLab from LabVine Dress A Med scrubs   PathGroup Proscia PathGroup Chooses Proscia to Deliver Next Generation of Cancer Diagnosis for Millions of Patients   People of Pathology Podcast: Twitter Instagram