The Steep Stuff Podcast

Send us a textA road racer with big engine and bigger grit, Makena Morley decided to test the mountains—and then turned a curious experiment into a statement season. We go all the way back to Maui and Montana, through a high-pressure collegiate career at Colorado, and into the realities of turning pro during Covid. Then the pivot: why ASICS' support opened the door to trails, how Bozeman and Montana State became her training backbone, and what it took to blend threshold speed with the chaos of technical terrain.Makena breaks down the moment Kodiak nearly unraveled—a missed turn, minutes lost, and a mental reset from chasing time to hunting the win. She explains how trail pacing lives in effort, not pace; how VKs mimic the misery of a 5K at altitude; and why nutrition and hydration need to be tighter once you're racing beyond marathon duration. We talk SIS gels, Skratch Superfuel, cramp control, and keeping heart rate near low threshold to ride the up-down rhythm without detonating. She also shares self-coaching insights: writing four-month blocks, moving workouts when the body says no, and using heart rate as a guardrail rather than a governor.Looking forward, we map a smart, exciting calendar: half marathons to sharpen, runnable 50Ks like Canyons to leverage road speed, and a technical progression toward OCC in Chamonix. Golden Trail and Cirque Series sit on the radar as skill-building playgrounds, tempered by timing and travel. The theme running through it all is joy—how switching surfaces revived hunger, built durability, and made big goals feel possible again.If this story fires you up, hit follow, share the episode with a friend who needs a nudge to try something new, and leave a quick review so more athletes can find the show.Follow Makena on IG - @makena_morleyCheck out Ultimate Direction !Use code steepstuffpod for 25% off ultimatedirection.comDisclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Follow James on IG - @jameslauriello Follow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_pod Use code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com!

Send us a textThe plan was simple: go test the 100K waters. The reality was a masterclass in pacing, hydration, and what happens when marathon instincts meet an eight-hour mountain day. Chad Hall brings candor and clarity to his Kodiak debrief—why he went out hard, where the wheels came loose around Snow Summit, and how he'll rebuild for another shot. From there, we widen the lens: short trail versus ultras, why 50K deserves more respect in the U.S., and how cycling's strength engine can transform uphill running without sacrificing leg speed on descents.We trade notes on altitude strategy for Pikes Peak, the balance between sea-level power and high-elevation adaptation, and practical ways to integrate strength—heavy lifts, bike blocks, or ski mountaineering—when schemo isn't an option. Chad traces his arc from triathlon to domestic elite cycling to trails, and explains how coaching, long mountain days, and flat-speed workouts all fit inside a program designed to resist fatigue and stay smooth on technical terrain.Then we go deeper. We push on the professionalization of trail running, UTMB-style event culture, and the line between authentic partnership and hollow consumerism. Chad is honest about sponsorship: only promote what you'd buy, center the mountains, and protect the community's soul. We also challenge the hype cycles of social media and the attention economy, where presentation can outrun performance and algorithms shrink our view of the world. Finally, we wrestle with AI and work—what jobs mean, where meaning comes from, and how a conscious buyer base can reshape the outdoor industry for the better.If you enjoy conversations that braid training insights with bigger questions about culture and purpose, this one will stick. Follow Chad on Instagram at @chadoflife, hit play, and then tell us: are you team short trail, team ultra, or somewhere in between? Subscribe, share with a friend, and leave a review to help more curious runners find the show.Follow Chad on IG - @chadoflifeFollow James on IG - @jameslauriello Follow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_pod Use code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com!

Send us a textA broken back, a fractured knee, and nearly a year off running—then podiums at Pikes Peak Ascent, Kodiak, and Moab. That's the arc Alicia Vargo takes us through, sharing how a brutal dog attack in 2024 unraveled her season and how skate skiing, patience, and stubborn belief stitched it back together. We start with her fresh Moab Trail Half podium and the course's split personality—slickrock step-ups, sandy slogs, and off-road pavement—before moving into the training mindset that keeps her sharp late in the year.From there, we head home to Breckenridge. Alicia talks altitude as the quiet performance lever, the surprising strength of the local community, and why winter skimo and skate skiing are the perfect mix to preserve fitness without the pounding. Then we go deep on her recovery: delayed diagnoses, crutches, months of uncertainty, and the tentative first races at Broken Arrow that proved her body could hold. She opens up about Sierre-Zinal's balcony trail, heat shock, and the crowded chaos of European starts where elbows fly and gels get trampled.We zoom out to the sport's big questions. Should women have separate starts or days? Alicia weighs the trade-offs—clear competition and spotlight versus thin fields and lost atmosphere. She revisits the early Nike Trail years, shifting to Hoka, and why the sport once nudged athletes toward ultras due to a lack of short trail opportunities. Now, with Golden Trail, Broken Arrow, and the Rut, short trail finally looks like the welcoming on-ramp for D1 talent and the most TV-ready version of mountain running.We also talk storytelling. What Coca-Dona got right with long-form livestreams. Why commentators who race—like Dani Moreno—can translate chaos into context. And why Alicia's skeptical about the Olympics reshaping trail into a TV-friendly shadow of itself, much like skimo's shift. Through it all, her message is grounded and energizing: protect the mountain identity, invest in women's race formats, tell better stories, and give athletes the room to come back strong.If this conversation hits, follow and share. Subscribe on YouTube for 4K episodes, drop a rating on Apple or Spotify, and tell a friend who loves steep stuff and strong comebacks.Follow Alicia on IG - @aliciavargoFollow James on IG - @jameslauriello Follow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_pod Use code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com!

Send us a textThe sport we love is growing up, and that's a good thing—if we build it right. I'm joined by athlete and agent Nick Cornell of Trailhead Athlete Management to dig into what “professional” actually looks like in trail running: livable contracts, smarter bonuses, real anti-doping, and a path that lets athletes focus on performance without losing the grassroots soul that makes this community special.Nick shares how he went from thru-hiking the Triple Crown to winning Montana 50Ks and managing athletes who train 20 hours a week while juggling logistics, content, deliverables, and travel. We unpack what brands want beyond results—genuine people with presence—and why short trail deserves more investment alongside ultras. We also talk hard numbers: why most pros still sit in the low five figures, how a league minimum could change that, and where healthcare and PT stipends fit in. If you've wondered whether rumors of huge salaries are real, or how to negotiate your first deal, Nick gives grounded, practical insight.We go deep on legitimacy and the World Mountain and Trail Championships—federations offering team camps and big bonuses, the realities of kit rules, and why national team results should be bonused just like track. From out-of-competition testing to non-endemic sponsors—cars, banks, tourism boards, food brands—we explore the funding models that could unlock full-time careers without sidelining local races. The takeaway is hopeful: keep the watermelon at aid stations and the big stages on the calendar. With smarter structure, everyone wins.If this conversation helped you think differently about the future of trail running, tap follow, share it with a friend, and leave a quick rating or review. Your support helps us bring more candid, useful conversations to the community.Follow Nick on IG - @nickcornell.runFollow Trailhead Athlete Mgmt on IG - @trailheadathletemgmtReach out to Trailhead Athlete Mgmt for Representation - Get in TouchFollow James on IG - @jameslauriello Follow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_pod Use code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com!

Send us a textA brand doesn't become real the day the website goes live—it becomes real the day someone beats it up on a mountain and still reaches for it the next morning. That's the heart of our conversation with Dust founder Zach Colby, who walked away from politics to build a running brand rooted in the Mountain West: trails, dirt, big days, and gear that doesn't need babysitting.We trace the idea back to Boulder, where Zach saw a clear gap. The urban-run-club look had its champions, but the West's mix of gravel, alpine, and singletrack culture felt underserved. Dust answers with simple, durable pieces that carry a Western soul—led by the mechanic shirt, a breathable button-down designed to race, ride, and recover. Zach breaks down the less glamorous side too: hunting for the right factory, negotiating MOQs, iterating fabric weights across time zones, and learning that a great sample is earned, not ordered.From there, we get into launch mechanics and marketing without the fluff. Boxes stacked in an apartment, a Shopify backend, word-of-mouth over ads, and photography that actually reflects how people move outside. We talk about the Dust Bus—a retired sheriff's van now turned rolling pop-up—and why in-person events, beer miles, and race weekends matter more than impressions. Zach also shares what's next: a women's line with a dedicated designer, tech-forward shorts and tights, and an interest in a lightweight, no-nonsense running belt that disappears on the run.If you care about trail running, niche outdoor brands, or the craft behind gear that holds up mile after mile, this one will hit. Tap play, then tell us what piece you wish more brands would build. And if you're vibing with the show, subscribe, share with a trail friend, and leave a quick review—it helps more runners find us.Follow Dust on IG -  @weardustShop the Dust Website - @weardustCheck out the Mechanic Shirt - Mechanic ShirtFollow James on IG - @jameslauriello Follow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_pod Use code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com!

Send us a textA sharpening workout at 10,000 feet. A sudden stab in the chest. Vision slipping. Hours later, Abby Locke learned her right lung had collapsed—and that was only the beginning. Across one summer she weathered three collapses, seven chest tubes, helicopter flights, and two surgeries, then found her way back to 50-mile weeks with a new definition of strength.We talk through the full arc with honesty and grit: the ER chaos, hospital routines, and why “take it easy” is dangerous advice for driven athletes. Abby details the shift from vague rest to a precise, metrics-based return—heart rate caps, minutes-based progressions, and a deliberate habit of undershooting. We dig into the identity quake that comes when sport is stripped away, and how watercolor, friendship, and a gentler mindset helped her rebuild. She shares practical wisdom on training by feel, listening for pain signals, and balancing risk without living in fear.We also explore what's next: genetic testing, altitude questions, and a smart path toward longer trail races where intensity spikes are fewer. Abby opens up about coaching, sub-ultra roots, and why the northeast's technical trails deserve more love. The takeaway is bigger than running: gratitude changes performance, diversified meaning sustains motivation, and a broader life makes you braver on race day.If this story resonates, tap follow, share it with a friend who needs perspective, and leave a quick review so more runners can find conversations like this.Follow Abby on IG - @abigaildlockFollow Abby on Substack - @adlockReach out to Abby for coaching & Nutrition Follow James on IG - @jameslauriello Follow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_pod Use code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com!

Send us a textReady to stop signing up for everything and start building a season that actually fits your life? We sit down with CTS coach Addison Smith to design a smarter year from the ground up: choosing an A race that truly motivates you, mapping B and C races that build skill without burnout, and matching training blocks to your goal's specific demands. Whether you're eyeing a first 50K or sharpening for a 100-mile bid, this conversation turns vague intentions into a practical plan.We break down the three-phase progression that drives long-term growth—learning to train, learning to race, and learning to win—and show how each stage shapes your calendar. Addison explains how to dial intensity by race duration and athlete level, why mid-packers often race best with more zone two than they think, and how to layer in threshold and marathon-effort work at the right time. We also get real about volume and recovery: minimum viable hours for 50K, 100K, and 100 mile, the risk of copying pro training, and how to avoid the all-in gambles that lead to burnout.Fueling myths get a major reality check. That 100 to 120 grams of carbs per hour? It only works if your pace and gut training support it. Most runners succeed at 60 to 90 grams per hour with fewer GI blow-ups. We walk through a simple framework to personalize hydration with a one-time sodium sweat test and easy at-home sweat rate tests, so your plan adapts from cold starts to hot, exposed climbs. Plus, actionable race routines, post-race debriefs, and candid insights from crewing at Javelina help you execute calmly when it counts.If lotteries didn't go your way—or life's time budget got tight—you'll hear how to pivot without losing momentum. Subscribe for more coaching-focused episodes, share this with a training partner who's planning their season, and leave a quick review so we know which topics to dig into next. Your next PR starts with a better plan—let's build it together.Work with Addison, CTS Coach  - @addisonsmithFollow Addison on IG - @addison_smith16Follow James on IG - @jameslauriello Follow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_pod Use code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com!

Send us a textA week after tackling a steep Canadian classic, two-time Leadville champion Adrian Macdonald joins us to chart a season that nearly went off the rails—and how he brought it back. After Western States left him drained and “half-sick,” bloodwork confirmed anemia. Adrian pressed pause on workouts, added iron, and rebuilt with patience. That decision reshaped his plans: fewer hero efforts, more deliberate steps. Now he's heading to Ultra‑Trail Cape Town's 100 miler to practice night pacing, big vert management, and problem‑solving—key skills he wants dialed before returning to UTMB.We trace Adrian's path from Massachusetts soccer and college track to Boston road marathons and, finally, Colorado trails. Winning Leadville unlocked travel, sponsorship, and a renewed sense of racing—not just time‑trials—but it also brought pressure and a few humbling lessons. He learned race specificity the hard way: the same engine that crushes runnable high altitude doesn't guarantee success on technical, hour‑long burners. His solution is pragmatic and refreshing. Choose one major ultra a year, sometimes two. Add short, sub‑ultra mountain races as tune‑ups to sharpen nerves, descents, and pacing without the deep fatigue of an ultra. Mix in East Coast staples like Mount Washington for nostalgia and family time, and lean on a supportive Fort Collins crew—mentors like Nick Clark and training partners who keep the work honest.We also go inside the On Running ecosystem, where rapid gear innovation and a cross‑discipline team culture keep Adrian inspired. From plated trail shoes to polished kits, he's part of a brand sprinting forward while still celebrating the messy, human side of ultras. If you've wondered how to rebuild after a rough race, plan a smarter season, or pick courses that actually fit your strengths, this is your blueprint. Enjoy the story, steal the strategies, and tell us what big race you're targeting next. If this conversation resonates, follow the show, leave a quick review, and share it with a friend who loves big climbs and bigger comebacks.Follow Adrian on IG - @macdonaldadrianFollow Adrian on Youtube - @adrianmacdonaldContact Adrian - @adrian.runFollow James on IG - @jameslauriello Follow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_pod Use code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com!

Send us a textA tailbone crash on a triangle rock. A season of strange falls and late-race cramping. And then a decision to tear it all down and rebuild. We sit with Dan Curts to map the truth behind his 2025 campaign, from a promising start at Canyons to a frustrating run through Iger, ETC, and Plitz Alpin Glacier. The thread is unglamorous and vital: when the posterior chain shuts down, quads overwork, climbing implodes, and even the best descenders can't press when it matters.Dan walks us through a hard reset with coach Jack Kenzel—starting with a track-based drift test to lock in real aerobic limits, adding heavy strength to hit a baseline of force, and then pressing the volume button with sustained climbs, daily vert, and technical footwork. We dig into why he believes cramping is a muscular endurance problem more than a bottle problem, how heart rate caps keep ego in check, and why Northeast granite and mud might prep athletes better for Europe than endless sunshine ever will.We also zoom out. Short trail is growing, but it needs stars, live coverage, and sharper storytelling. Dan shares what Europe gets right—stacked fields, iconic venues, and snackable highlight reels—and how U.S. races can catch up with consistent live streams, honest athlete recaps, and creative embeds that show how fast “runnable” really looks. Gear matters too: lighter, grippier shoes like the Cascadia Elite change what's sustainable at speed on wet rock and alpine grass, expanding both safety and excitement.If you care about subultra trail, this is the blueprint: build durability, race smart, tell the story well, and make it easy to watch. Hit play, then tell us—what race do you want live-streamed next? And if you're new here, follow, share, and drop a quick review so more runners can find the show.Follow Dan on IG - @dancurtsFollow James on IG - @jameslauriello Follow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_pod Use code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com!

Send us a textA short trail host, a 214-mile finish, and a brutally honest look at what it really takes to cross a 200-mile line with your head still on straight. Franc returns fresh off the Mammoth 200 to unpack the race that started as a joke and turned into a test of logistics, mindset, and pain tolerance. We talk about the fast first day that had him mixing it with the leaders, the sandy fire roads that shredded his feet, and the moment—somewhere around mile 114—when he had to find a real why or walk off the course.We go deep on the parts most recaps skip. How do you structure sleep so you stop dozing while walking? What does smart foot care actually look like under constant sand—washing, lube, taping, sock swaps—and how fast does neglect ruin a great engine? Why does some pain feel worse when you walk than when you jog? Franc shares what worked in his fueling (steady gels and real food, zero stomach drama), what didn't (delayed foot fixes), and why crew can make or break a second night. We also zoom out to the front of the race: how Jimmy Elam proved 200s can be fast and how Rachel Enterkin's relentless push hints at a new era for the distance.Training takeaways are clear and actionable: build volume patiently, treat heavy strength work as a durability cornerstone, and test your sleep and foot systems long before race week. We touch tough edges too—microdosing debates, WADA rules, appetite suppression risks, and the boundaries of sobriety—without glamorizing shortcuts. If you're eyeing Sedona 125, Cocodona, or any race where days blur and aid stations feel like islands, this conversation gives you a roadmap and a reality check.If this resonated, follow the show, share it with a trail friend, and leave a quick review so more runners can find it. Your support helps us bring on athletes who tell the whole story—the messy parts, the smart choices, and the moments that change how we race.Follow Francesco on IG - @Franc.SunseriFollow Run.SL.UT on IG - @run.sl.utFollow Chasing Trail on Youtube - @Chasing TrailFollow Chasing Trail on Spotify - @ Chasing Trail Follow Chasing Trail on Apple -  @Chasing TrailFollow James on IG - @jameslauriello Follow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_pod Use code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com!

Send us a textA month after Canfranc, the dust has settled but the stories still sting—sometimes literally. We sat down with Team USA leaders Paul Kirsch and Tom Hooper to unpack a world championship defined by raw terrain, tight logistics, and athletes who found another gear when it mattered most. If you watched the medals, you saw the headlines. If you listen here, you'll hear the blueprint.We start where results are made: planning. Paul and Tom pull back the curtain on selection debates, athlete travel, hotel puzzles, kit approvals, and an aid station operation designed for seconds, not comfort. Imagine three staff crewing a dozen athletes off a single table while frost slicks the rocks, ground wasps erupt near the trail, and two bulls jog past a sunrise checkpoint. That's the reality of world-level trail—messy, improvised, and relentlessly precise.From there we dig into racing. The long and short trail routes tilted skyward and technical, but champions like Jim Walmsley and Katie Schide still rose, proving that range and resilience travel across terrain. Hillary Gerardi stepped from VK to 80K to keep the team whole. Short trail newcomers like Jane and Ruby showed composure well beyond their caps. The vertical and classic squads highlighted rising stars—Anna Gibson, Cam Smith—and real team tactics, with athletes working together late to lock in points, cross-country style. Meanwhile, U20 athletes arrived with true mountain chops, signaling a pipeline ready to meet a deeper, more global field that now includes full squads from Uganda and Kenya and breakthrough team medals from nations like Canada.We also talk about the gap that still holds the sport back: brand buy-in. Many athletes earn no bonuses for worlds and must choose between country and paycheck. With more sponsor support—following models we already see in track and the Olympics—world championships could become the premier stage they deserve to be. South Africa is next, and with the right mix of citizen races, media, and partners, the scene could match the spectacle.Hit play for a candid, inside look at how Team USA turned chaos into podiums and why the future of mountain and trail running has never looked brighter. If this conversation resonates, subscribe, share with a friend, and leave a quick review to help more fans find the show.Follow Paul Kirsch on IG - @pkrunswithdogsFollow Tom Hooper on IG - @tomhooper603Follow Six03 Endurance on IG - @six03enduranceCheck out Six03 Races - @six03enduranceFollow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! Follow James on IG - @jameslauriello Follow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_pod Use code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com!

Send us a textWhat if you didn't grow up on a track and still became a force on steep, thin-air courses? We sit down with Colorado Springs native Amanda Koslosky to trace a candid, practical path from soccer fields to summit podiums—top ten at the Pikes Peak Ascent, podiums at Telluride Mountain Run and Bar Trail—and the bold decision to go part-time at work to chase what's possible.Amanda opens up about the moment a Golden Trail–stacked Ascent proved her ceiling was higher than she thought, and why a coach, community, and course-first strategy changed everything. We unpack the mental game—pre-race nerves, stacking confidence with small wins, and holding a belief that borders on audacious. Then we get tactical: altitude prep with 3-2-1 uphill sessions, Rampart Reservoir loops, and smart long runs that build climbing economy without frying the legs. With Moab ahead, her training pivots to speed—three-minute reps near six-minute pace, downhill economy, and the quad conditioning needed to finish fast.Recovery and longevity take center stage. Amanda shares how she replaced “smaller is better” with fuel-first thinking—pairing protein and carbs post-run, dialing hydration, and protecting easy days. Nightly rolling, consistent stretching, and monthly massage keep the system absorbing work. TRX strength provides the chassis: core stability, single-leg control, and full-body resilience that pays off on steep climbs and technical descents. We also cover race-day strategy on the Ascent's W's, when to sit on a steady runner, and how to time the move past A-Frame.If you're chasing a sub-three at altitude, eyeing Broken Arrow, or wondering whether your fastest years can still be ahead, Amanda's story offers a blueprint: train for the course you'll race, treat recovery like a pillar, and let community sharpen your edge. Follow Amanda at run_cos_run, then hit play and take notes for your next build. Enjoy the conversation, and if it helps your long run, subscribe, share, and leave a quick review to help others find the show.Follow Amanda on IG - @run_kos_runFollow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! Follow James on IG - @jameslauriello Follow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_pod Use code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com!

Send us a textTen hours on the edge, a live stream watched by hundreds of thousands, and a second-place finish that announced David Sinclair to the world stage. We unpack how an injury scare turned into a smarter build, why he chose CCC over OCC, and the exact training and fueling choices that helped him lead for hours, survive the low points, and find the grit to hold the podium in Chamonix.David takes us inside the chaos at Worlds—from canceled flights to a sky-high vert profile—and what that taught him about specificity and course targeting. Then we go deep on the nuts and bolts: threshold-focused workouts drawn from his ski background, a summer of cross-training and uphill-only running, and the course recon that let him pace with intent. We break down his fueling strategy in plain terms—80 to 100 grams of carbs per hour, flavor fatigue management, and why separating carbs, fluids, and electrolytes can save your stomach late. With Western States on the horizon, he shares a practical heat plan: steady sauna work, relentless ice at every aid, and simple systems that keep core temperature down without overcomplicating race day.We also talk shoes and gear, including Craft prototypes that balance cushioning with stability on runnable terrain, and why East Coast training—rolling dirt roads, rooty steeps, variable weather—can build world-class durability without altitude. David's philosophy is refreshingly clear: keep it fun, stay flexible, and double down on the basics that actually move the needle. If you're mapping your next build or just love a front-row view of a breakthrough season, this conversation is a masterclass in turning setbacks into fuel.If this episode adds value to your training, follow the show, share it with a friend, and leave a quick rating or review. Your support helps us bring on more voices you'll want to learn from.Follow David on IG - @david.a.sinclair.92Follow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textThe race began before the gun—shoulder to shoulder, 12 rows deep, with a call-up protocol that flipped expectations and turned the opening meters into a high-stakes fight for position. From a fast frontage road into stairs and tight singletrack, Tyler McCandless had to manage chaos without panic: protect effort, find clean lines, and pass only when it counted. What followed was a masterclass in patience and presence—steady gains through the forest, a fierce late surge on a 30% wall to the summit, and a finish that helped Team USA lock down bronze at the World Mountain Running Championships in Confranc.We get into the texture of Worlds that you can't see on a results sheet: the camaraderie of sharing meals with athletes you'd never usually race alongside, the electricity of cheering other disciplines all week, and the way team identity changes how you suffer. Tyler breaks down the travel and course recon with Joe Gray, the jet lag fix that worked, and the quiet confidence that came from previewing key sections. We also revisit Broken Arrow VK—how a last-minute course change erased the runnable grind he wanted, why he still qualified under pressure, and what it feels like to crest steep singletrack with David Sinclair closing fast.There's gear talk too—Nike's radical cooling long sleeve, why it's more than a fashion statement, and how innovation is finally meeting trail reality. Then we look ahead: a winter marathon bid to punch a fifth Olympic Trials ticket (sub-2:16), plus a summer slate that fits Tyler's engine—Sierre-Zinal, Pikes Peak Ascent, and select Golden Trail races. And we make the case for a dedicated U.S. uphill series to cultivate specialists, build team culture, and grow the fan base with short, watchable vertical races.If you enjoy stories of resilience, smart racing on steep ground, and the power of team over self, you'll want to queue this one up. Hit follow, share it with a trail friend, and leave a quick review—what part of Tyler's strategy would you try on your next climb?Follow Tyler on IG - @tracktyFollow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textGolden Trail World Series Final Preview with Robert Prosser Follow Robert Prosser on Substack - @robrunsround (substack.com/@robrunsround)Follow Robert Prosser on Instagram - @robrunsroundFollow James Lauriello on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textA fall storm, ankle‑deep snow, and a west wind tearing across the Sawatch set the stage—then David Hedges took the Nolans 14 record back by roughly ten minutes. We unpack how it happened, from the early confidence on Antero to a near-collapse between Harvard and Oxford, a frozen night saved by borrowed layers and hot gels, and a final, ruthless push off Massive that flipped the math with miles to spare. The story isn't just splits; it's style, stewardship, and what local fluency really looks like when the terrain turns feral.We dig into route decisions like choosing the Columbia–Harvard traverse when conditions allow, why Princeton is the true make‑or‑break, and how Pine Creek's flooded willows taxed time and patience. David contrasts a lean, self‑navigated approach with a big‑budget model, raising thoughtful questions about GPX dependency, pacers, and what FKTs are rewarding now. He also walks through working directly with the Leadville district ranger during the La Plata closure—a quiet example of respecting the place you move through fast.Looking ahead, David shares a sharp slate of objectives that fit his engine: the Tonto Trail, the La Sal Traverse, and SCAR in the Smokies. Then comes the bold target—Aconcagua's standard route FKT—where altitude physiology, long uphill intervals, and precise downhill pacing become the whole game. If you love FKTs, mountain strategy, and honest talk about what it takes to move fast when conditions say no, this one's a feast.If this conversation resonated, follow David on Instagram at D_hedges_, share the episode with a friend who geeks out on routes and style, and leave a quick review so more mountain nerds can find the show. Got thoughts on purity vs pace on Nolans? Drop us a note and join the debate.Follow David on IG - @dhedges_Follow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textStart in city gravel, end on a knife-edge ridge. That's the arc of Kyle Richardson's 1,300-mile Northeast Summits Tour—fifteen days, 84,000 feet, and six peaks stitched together by a bivy, a bike, and a refusal to overplan. We talk about why he treats endurance like an art form, how loosening timelines kept motivation high, and what it means to curate routes that flow from Catskill roots to Adirondack slabs, across the Whites, and onto Katahdin's cathedral spine.We get tactical without killing the magic. Kyle breaks down mapping with Gaia GPS, weaving the Empire State Trail, Eastern Divide, and local connectors, plus the on-the-fly decisions that save you from interstates and dead ends. He shares stealth bivvy habits, smart resupply strategy in the Maine woods, and the gear that actually works: hydrophobic, big-lug trail shoes that drain fast in boggy terrain and a tidy kit that looks presentable from diner to trailhead. We dig into recovery while moving daily, the mental cadence of silence vs. sound, and why his east coast takeaway is simple: technical, steep, and slept-on can be world-class.There's more beyond the Northeast. Kyle unpacks his Boulder–Steamboat ride for Moots' 40th anniversary—crossing divides, tagging Longs Peak, and dropping Rollins Pass—plus the South Platte Twirl, a two-night Colorado loop that blends singletrack, OHV roads, gravel, and quiet pavement. We revisit his pre-tour dawn linkup on Longs with Kilian Jornet and the lessons in communication, safety, and community that came with it. If you're hungry for routes that balance beauty, efficiency, and honest difficulty, this one's a map you can trust.If this conversation sparked ideas for your next ride or run, tap follow, leave a quick review, and share it with a friend who needs a nudge to plan less and move more.Follow Kyle on IG - @kylerichardsonFollow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textWhat if the best prep for a world-stage 50K isn't altitude at all—but rock, root, and relentless decision-making? That's the case Ben Robinson makes as we dive into his Grindstone 50K win, an OCC qualifier that doubled as redemption after a brutal DNF during a rabies vaccine saga the year before. From Pennsylvania's Roxylvania series to Alaska's Mount Marathon chaos, Ben maps a season where the Northeast's technical terrain becomes a training edge, not a compromise, and where joy beats pressure as a performance tool.We trace Ben's arc from Lock Haven long runs to short-trail evangelist, race director, and community builder. He breaks down what makes PA special—Heiner's culture, Boulder Beast's car-sized rocks, and Miller Mountain's steep, clean design—then gets specific about permitting, landowner trust, and why a cookout can be the most important gear choice of race day. We go deep on Mount Marathon strategy (cliffs vs roots), how to commit on snowfields and scree without blinking, and why downhill skill is often the true separator. He explains the switch from pro-contract pressure to free agency freedom, how self-coaching lets him fit training around a full-time job and board roles, and how rebuilding his why—love of the sport, service to others, growth through difficulty—made him faster.We also zoom out. Cirque Series growth in the Northeast? Good for the sport when courses stay honest. UTMB structure vs the Olympics? Keep the edges sharp and the terrain real. World Championships takeaways? Technical venues reveal depth; surprise performances are a feature, not a bug. Ben's near-term path points to OCC, a Javelina 100 experiment, and a Skyrunner Series return, plus bucket-list aims like Transvulcania and Western States—not as résumé items but as pilgrimages worth the work.If you're into East Coast grit, skyrunning energy, and practical insight on training, race directing, and building a life that can hold it all, this one's for you. Listen, share with a friend who loves steep stuff, and leave a quick rating or review to help more runners find the show.Follow Ben on IG - @ben_robinson88Follow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textWhat does it take to race at a world-class level when running itself isn't an option? We sit with Meikael Beaudoin-Rousseau to trace a brutal knee injury—down to bone—and the long, confusing road back: tendon thickening, scar pain that burns like hot iron, false starts, and a fitness base built on a handbike, arms-only swims, and an elliptical. Meika is candid about uncertainty and the daily choice to believe that today could be the first day of the comeback. Then we go deep on what that mindset looks like on the start line, from a med-tent finish at Pikes Peak to a podium at the Rut VK, and how trail racing rewards whole-body fitness even when mileage is scarce.We widen the lens to the life that makes the athlete. Meika's a tri-citizen (United States, France, Canada) who grew up in California splitting time between ocean and Sierra, now based in Boulder's running community. He talks gardening, ocean kayak fishing with whales and dolphins, and the grounding joy of catching and cooking his own food. We cover Stanford, discovering pro trail running through Megan and David Roche, and why sub-ultra distances still feel like home while 50K races like OCC/CCC pull him toward longer adventures that feel like missions.The future of the sport takes center stage: how sub-ultra is booming, why FKTs and personal mountain projects should live alongside race series, and the role of storytelling in building real fandom. Meika shares honest takes on sponsorship trends, Brooks' investment in sub-ultra, anti-doping beyond race-day tests, world championships versus UTMB, and the calendar coordination needed for true head-to-heads. Through it all, he stays focused on longevity and authenticity—keeping the community feel while growing prize money, media, and opportunity.If this conversation fires you up, tap follow, share it with a friend who needs a spark, and leave a quick rating and review to help more trail fans find the show. Then tell us: what should trail running fix first as it grows?Follow Meikael on IG - @mountain_man_meikFollow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textThe mountains of Spain are set to host an unprecedented gathering of mountain running talent as the World Mountain Running Championships descend upon Canfranc in the Pyrenees. This year's championship field is arguably the deepest ever assembled, with elite athletes from Kenya, Uganda, Italy, France, Spain, and the United States poised for an epic showdown across four grueling disciplines.The championship courses themselves present extraordinary challenges. The vertical race features nearly 1,000 meters of climbing over just 6.4 kilometers, while the short trail packs a staggering 12,000 feet of elevation gain into its 45-kilometer route. These aren't your typical mountain races – they feature sustained climbs and descents that dwarf what most American runners encounter domestically, with technical terrain that will test even the most seasoned mountain athletes.Kenya's Patrick Kipengeno seeks to make history with a third consecutive vertical championship, while Team USA fields perhaps its strongest contingent ever. Christian Allen makes his world championship debut with legitimate medal potential, Anna Gibson represents an exciting American talent who could surprise everyone, and the accomplished veterans Joseph Gray and Grayson Murphy each chase their third world titles in different disciplines. The Spanish team, led by technical descending maestro Manuel Morales, will enjoy home field advantage on courses that seem tailor-made for their skills.The team competition adds another compelling dimension, with nations scored based on their top performers in cross-country fashion. This creates strategic depth requirements beyond individual brilliance. After Kenya's dominant showing in 2023, teams like Italy, France, Spain, and the USA all bring squads capable of challenging for team medals.Whether you're tracking the established champions, the emerging talents, or the team battle, this championship weekend promises mountain running at its most thrilling and competitive level. Watch as athletes push their limits on Spain's demanding terrain in pursuit of world championship glory.Follow Robert Prosser on Substack - @robrunsround (substack.com/@robrunsround)Follow Robert Prosser on Instagram - @robrunsroundFollow James Lauriello on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textChristian Allen takes us deep into the rugged heart of the Pyrenees as he prepares to represent Team USA at the World Mountain Running Championships. The reigning US Mountain Running Champion opens up about the wild, technical trails of Canfrank that barely resemble paths at times—"They stuck flags into a bunch of rock that you're just hiking up. It's really steep."Fresh off his stunning victory at Broken Arrow, where he outpaced legends Kilian Jornet and Joe Gray, Allen reveals the strategic approach that's transformed his running. "I've been working with David Roach and he definitely focuses on running economy and turnover more than when I was coaching myself," he explains, crediting this shift for his breakthrough performances despite coming back from a six-week injury layoff earlier this season.Beyond the physical aspects of elite mountain running, Allen shares how his family and faith provide deeper meaning to his athletic pursuits. The father of two recounts touching moments of his children's involvement in his racing journey, including his son's disappointment after a fourth-place finish: "He was super mad and just in the worst mood ever... he said he hated the guy that won the race because he beat daddy." These personal insights reveal the human side of a champion who balances world-class athleticism with fatherhood and spiritual purpose.As Team USA looks toward potential gold at the World Championships, Allen's confidence is measured but unmistakable. "I think we can definitely podium. I don't see why not, and everyone in the back of their mind is shooting for gold." His preparation, mindset, and journey exemplify what it takes to compete at the highest level of mountain running while maintaining perspective on what truly matters most.Follow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textTaylor Stack's remarkable transformation from promising college runner to Team USA representative has been nothing short of extraordinary. In this wide-ranging conversation, Stack opens up about his breakthrough European racing season where he finished as top American and 12th overall in the Golden Trail Series, plus secured a podium at the brutally technical Pitz Alpine Glacier race.What makes Stack's journey particularly fascinating is his balanced approach to high-pressure competition. Rather than buckling under expectations, he emphasizes gratitude for these opportunities and focuses on embracing the experience—a mindset that has paradoxically enhanced his performances against the world's elite. His versatility across different course types—from cold, technical mountain races to scorching hot runnable routes—demonstrates a rare adaptability that's becoming his competitive signature.The conversation delves into Team USA's unprecedented depth heading into World Championships, with Stack describing how a genuine team atmosphere has developed under the leadership of veteran Cam Levins. This camaraderie was evident when Stack, Levins, and Mason Coppi worked together throughout the Broken Arrow race, showcasing the collaborative dynamic that could prove decisive against European dominance at Worlds. Stack also shares insights about his training base in Salida, Colorado, where immediate access to the highest peaks in the state has prepared him perfectly for international mountain competition.As Stack prepares to don the stars and stripes, there's tangible excitement about the mountain classic course at Worlds reportedly favoring American strengths with more runnable terrain. Could this be the year an American man finally breaks through for gold? With his rapid development and balanced perspective, Stack represents a new generation of American trail runners closing the gap with European competitors and redefining what's possible on the global stage.Have you experienced the transformative power of finding the right team and mindset in your own athletic pursuits?Follow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textNoah Williams has been on fire this summer. Fresh off a breakthrough performance at Sierre-Zinal where he clocked an impressive 2:45:10 as the third American finisher, he's now setting his sights on something even bigger: gold at the Trail Running World Championships in Spain.The conversation kicks off with Noah recounting his recent racing adventures, from Alaska's rugged terrain to the iconic trails of Switzerland. His Sierre-Zinal performance stands out as particularly special - finishing 27th in what many consider the most competitive mountain race globally. Noah breaks down how he managed to improve significantly from last year, particularly in maintaining energy through the runnable sections after the brutal climbs. "I think I just improved significantly in that stretch and I was actually catching runners rather than being caught," he explains, showing how his training is paying dividends at the highest level.As we turn to the upcoming World Championships, Noah doesn't shy away from ambition. With teammates like David Sinclair, Eli Hemming, and veteran Max King (replacing the injured Ryan Becker), Team USA is bringing perhaps its strongest squad ever. "Gold is definitely the goal," Noah states confidently, while acknowledging the fierce competition from European powerhouses like France, Spain, and Italy. The discussion delves into course specifics, equipment choices (poles vs. no poles), and the unique challenges of representing American trail running on the world stage.What comes through most clearly is Noah's passion for elevating American trail running and inspiring the next generation. "I just want to do it for that next generation and inspire some American trail runners to do the same and show them that we are the best in the world, or we can be," he shares, highlighting how this race transcends individual achievement. After Worlds, he'll transition to his winter life as a ski patroller and competitive skier, demonstrating the versatility that makes mountain athletes so impressive.Follow along as Noah takes on the world's best in the Pyrenees! Share your support for Team USA and let us know your predictions for the World Championships.Follow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textCam Smith and Anna Gibson join the podcast from Italy where they're juggling an extraordinary athletic challenge. Currently training with the USA Skimo team, both athletes are preparing to represent Team USA in dual events at the upcoming Mountain Running World Championships in Spain.The conversation offers a fascinating glimpse into their Italian training camp and the unique dynamics of preparing for two completely different mountain disciplines simultaneously. Anna reveals her deep skiing background—"It's definitely the original sport for me"—explaining how her lifelong passion for skiing has naturally evolved into competitive ski mountaineering as the sport heads toward its Olympic debut. Meanwhile, Cam shares insights about the technical challenges of mastering quick transitions and equipment changes essential to skimo racing.What makes this episode particularly compelling is the candid discussion about team dynamics within USA Trail Running. Cam details his efforts to foster camaraderie through a pre-Worlds training camp in Colorado, where the team tackled challenging 14,000-foot peaks together. "This exact group will never be together again as teammates," Smith reflects, highlighting the fleeting nature of these special team configurations and the importance of maximizing every moment.The most poignant segment comes when Anna discusses her decision to postpone her Grand Teton FKT attempt after rolling her ankle before Sierre-Zinal. Her thoughtful explanation reveals the complex calculus elite athletes must navigate when balancing personal goals against team responsibilities. The conversation concludes with a passionate discussion about anti-doping in trail running and the athletes' hopes for the sport's future, including potential Olympic inclusion.Whether you're a mountain sports enthusiast or simply fascinated by elite athlete mindsets, this episode offers remarkable insights into the dedication, versatility, and thoughtful decision-making required at the highest levels of endurance sports. Follow along as Cam and Anna head to Worlds to represent Team USA in this pivotal moment for American mountain running!Follow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textWhat does it truly mean to represent your country on the world stage? For Michelino Senseri, it's the fulfillment of a childhood dream that once seemed impossible. Speaking from Spain where he's been meticulously studying the World Trail Championship course, Michelino offers an unfiltered look at what American trail runners can expect when they toe the line against the world's best.The terrain in Spain presents a fascinating challenge - more technical than anything in the United States, with runnable climbs that zigzag up mountains and downhills so steep and rocky that Michelino warns "if it rains the night before, you're gonna wish to God you had lugs and good rubber." His early arrival and careful course reconnaissance reveal a race that will demand technical proficiency, strategic pacing, and mental fortitude from every competitor.Despite what he calls a "bumpy season," Michelino approaches this championship with refreshing clarity and determination. "How many chances do you have to line up at a world championship? If you're not rolling the dice and going for it, then why are you there?" This all-in mentality extends to his assessment of Team USA's chances against powerhouse nations like Spain, Italy, and France. With teammates Eli Hemming, David Sinclair, Seth DeMoor, Noah Williams, and late addition Max King (replacing injured Ryan Becker), Michelino believes they have the firepower to challenge for gold if three Americans can crack the top 15.Perhaps most compelling is Michelino's perspective on what success actually means. "The dream was not to win in the jersey. The dream has been to represent the jersey and the colors and the country." In a sport often focused on individual achievement, his pride in wearing the stars and stripes transcends personal results. Listen now for an insider's perspective on international competition and what it truly means to race not just for yourself, but for something larger.Follow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textWhat happens when you throw away your carefully crafted race plan and follow your intuition instead? For elite mountain runner Remi Leroux, it meant transforming a 15-race schedule into nearly 25 events across two continents in a single summer.Diving deep into his whirlwind season, Remi shares how his partnership with Brooks teammate Dan has pushed him toward spontaneity and risk-taking. Their contrasting personalities—Dan's high-energy spontaneity balanced against Remy's thoughtful approach—created the perfect dynamic for an unforgettable European racing campaign. From training camps in Les Houches to competing alongside the Brooks team at Golden Trail Series events and during UTMB week, Remy found himself surrounded by a professional team atmosphere that elevated his performance.The conversation explores Remi's victory at Cirque Series Cannon Mountain despite racing with a significant foot injury, his surprising 5th place finish at the hyper-competitive ETC race, and his specific preparation for the upcoming World Mountain Running Championships in Spain. With remarkable self-awareness, Remy analyzes his strengths—particularly his ability to climb efficiently after descending—and how he's tailoring his training for the unique demands of championship mountain racing.Perhaps most compelling is Remi's perspective on representing Team Canada on the world stage. Beyond personal achievement, he sees international performance as crucial for growing competitive mountain running in Canada, shifting perceptions from casual recreation to serious sport. His measured ambition—targeting a top-10 finish against running powerhouses like Kenya, Uganda, and Italy—reveals both humility and confidence.Join us for this fascinating glimpse into elite mountain running through the eyes of an athlete who's learned that sometimes the best decisions come from following your gut rather than your spreadsheet. Whether you're chasing podiums or personal bests, Remy's journey offers valuable insights on balancing structure with spontaneity in pursuit of your running goals.Follow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textWhat happens when you suddenly find yourself among the world's elite athletes? Mason Coppi, who has exploded onto the sub-ultra mountain running scene with remarkable success, joins us for a candid conversation about his journey to the top and upcoming World Championships appearance.Despite dominating races and earning his place among the sport's best, Mason reveals his ongoing battle with imposter syndrome. "I would feel uncomfortable putting my name in that conversation," he admits, even as his results speak volumes. Yet he's found a powerful antidote in staying present during competition – deliberately pausing during races to absorb the scenery and experience the joy of the moment.Having represented Team USA once before at Chiang Mai, Mason approaches this year's World Championships in Spain with fresh perspective. His first European trip represents not just a personal milestone but an opportunity to be part of something bigger. The camaraderie within Team USA has transformed his approach, creating what he describes as a true team environment he hasn't experienced since college. Through pre-championship training camps and races, these elite individuals have formed a cohesive unit ready to challenge the world's best.As preparation for the technically demanding world championship course continues, Mason shares his philosophy of maintaining successful training approaches rather than making dramatic changes. His balanced perspective extends to his championship expectations – acknowledging the exceptional difficulty while maintaining confidence in his abilities. Most compelling is his vision for what a team medal might mean: "This is an opportunity to really show what we're capable of" and potentially rewrite the narrative around American mountain running on the global stage.Listen now to this inspiring conversation about athletic excellence, team dynamics, and finding joy in the journey to the top. Follow Mason and Team USA as they take on the world's best mountain runners and represent American trail running on the global stage!Follow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textWhen Lindsay Allison submitted her application for the US Mountain Running World Championship team, she never expected to be selected. "When I got the call I was like, 'What? Are you sure? Me?'" she shares with genuine surprise in her voice. This unexpected honor comes at the perfect moment in her season—just as she's hitting her stride after overcoming early-season challenges.Our conversation explores Lindsay's fascinating journey through a summer of unexpected hurdles and triumphant breakthroughs. After battling persistent nausea that severely impacted her performance at Speedgoat, Lindsay discovered she might have been over-consuming electrolytes. "I think my sweat rate changed throughout the summer," she reflects, highlighting how our bodies' needs evolve with adaptation. This experience serves as a powerful reminder that even elite athletes continue learning about their bodies through careful observation and experimentation.Perhaps the most profound shift in Lindsay's season came when she intentionally disconnected from training technology. As a self-described "type A" athlete, she found herself overwhelmed by data from multiple devices. Her decision to run without her watch for several weeks proved transformative: "It was so liberating... I just felt free." This digital detox allowed her to reconnect with the pure joy of running, making decisions based solely on feel. Her subsequent performances at the Telluride Mountain Run and The Rut—both technically demanding mountain races with significant vertical gain—not only provided perfect physical preparation for Worlds but also rekindled her passion for mountain running at precisely the right moment.As Lindsay prepares to represent Team USA in Innsbruck, her humble approach and genuine excitement for the experience shine through. With plans to race UTMB Bariloche in Patagonia afterward, she's embracing every opportunity this remarkable season has presented. Join us for this candid conversation about finding balance between data and intuition, overcoming mid-season obstacles, and the unexpected paths that lead to representing your country on the world stage.Follow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textCourtney Coppinger takes us inside her journey to the Mountain Running World Championships in this candid conversation about mental resilience, team camaraderie, and the pursuit of excellence on the international stage.From Colorado's high altitude training grounds to the pristine trails of Europe, Courtney shares the rollercoaster of emotions that define an elite athlete's preparation. "Nothing felt really shiny and nothing felt really good," she admits about her final training block, before describing how arriving in Europe instantly restored her confidence: "The stoke immediately came back because sea level, 60-degree temps, perfect trails... I had a run yesterday and it just all came back and I'm like, yep, you're fit, you're ready."Her recent performances validate that preparation. At the World Cup Finals in Slovenia, Courtney made a pivotal mental shift, deciding to race aggressively from the start rather than working from behind. The result? A breakthrough third-place finish that transformed her self-belief. Similarly, at the A-Basin Cirque Series race, she pushed through early suffering to claim second place, reinforcing valuable lessons about race strategy and recovery.What truly shines through is Courtney's deep appreciation for team culture. She speaks passionately about the pre-World Championships camp organized by teammate Cam Smith, where Team USA members formed meaningful bonds. "There were no egos, everybody was just super excited to get to know each other," she reflects. This team-first mentality extends to her Brooks teammates, who have become her closest friends in the sport. "I literally was tearing up because I didn't know that I was going to sign with you guys and find two of my best friends," she shares, emphasizing that these relationships transcend running achievements.Looking ahead to the World Championships, Courtney's confidence in Team USA is unwavering. "This team, it's just these girls on this team... I couldn't pick a better group of four sub-ultra classic style racers," she declares, believing they have excellent medal potential. With a month in Europe planned after the championships, Courtney's passion for the sport, her teammates, and the adventure of it all promises to carry her through the biggest race of her season.Follow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textWhen Sydney Petersen toed the line at the Broken Arrow Skyrace this summer, she wasn't sure she'd even finish. After two weeks of complete rest nursing what she feared might be a serious hip injury, her training was far from ideal for what would serve as the US World Championship qualifier. Yet sometimes our greatest performances emerge when expectations fall away."I think everything that could have gone wrong leading up to this race went wrong," Peterson reveals in this candid conversation. "I wasn't feeling good, I wasn't even sure if I was going to be able to race." Despite these setbacks, Peterson found herself in a unique mental space—grateful simply to be healthy enough to compete and free from self-imposed pressure. What followed was a breakthrough performance that secured her spot on Team USA's vertical squad for the World Mountain Running Championships.The drama of that qualifying race unfolds like a thriller as Petersen describes getting caught behind slower runners at the start, methodically working through the field, and misunderstanding her position. Believing she was the fourth American (the final qualifying spot) rather than her actual position as second American, she sprinted desperately to the finish in what she calls "the farthest I've ever gone into the pain cave." This performance marked a profound shift in how she views herself within the competitive landscape: "Before it was like the top American women are in their race and I'll be running my race behind them. Now I consider myself in the same race."From European racing adventures to Team USA training camps in Colorado, Peterson shares the lessons she's gathered in her rapid evolution as an elite trail runner. With the World Championships approaching, she balances the team's medal potential with her desire to remain present for the experience. Her journey reminds us that in trail running's unpredictable world, adaptability and gratitude often matter more than perfect preparation.Follow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textRuby Lindquist has experienced a meteoric rise in the trail running world this season, securing a coveted spot on Team USA for the World Trail Championships following a gutsy sixth-place finish at the hyper-competitive Broken Arrow 50K. Our conversation dives deep into the mental strategies that allow her to push through pain barriers when races aren't going according to plan."You feel this awful feeling and you just have to pass right through it," Ruby explains, describing how she managed to stay focused at Broken Arrow despite not feeling her best. This acceptance of suffering rather than resistance to it has become a cornerstone of her racing philosophy. It's particularly relevant as she prepares for the World Championships course with its punishing 12,000 feet of vertical gain—terrain that should play to the strengths of the strong Alaskan contingent heading to the event.Ruby's evolution as an athlete extends beyond the mental game. She's embraced a data-driven approach to nutrition, working with professionals to determine she's actually a "low salty sweater"—contradicting the high-sodium approach she'd previously followed. This personalized nutritional strategy has eliminated much of the trial-and-error that plagued her longer races in the past. Combined with targeted strength training and focused vert sessions, Ruby is methodically addressing every aspect of performance.What stands out most in our conversation is Ruby's balanced perspective on competitive running. Despite her elite status, she emphasizes the importance of maintaining joy in the sport: "The reason why we do this is to be outside," she reminds us. This philosophy extends to her vision for trail running's future, where she believes Olympic-level competition can coexist with the community-oriented soul of the sport—much like what's happened with climbing and surfing.Want to follow Ruby's journey or discover what fuels one of America's most promising mountain runners? Listen now to hear her full story, from eating udon daily in Japan to finding herself on the start list with some of the world's best ultra athletes.Follow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textSummits conquered, records shattered, and mountains yet to climb—Jasmine Lowther's extraordinary summer of racing defies conventional limits. Fresh from breaking the Grand Teton FKT and excelling at OCC, she now stands on the precipice of the World Championships in Spain.The Grand Teton FKT attempt reveals a fascinating dimension of Jasmine's relationship with mountains. Despite having only three weeks to prepare for a challenge that ideally requires months of intimate mountain knowledge, she conquered not just the technical terrain but her own fears. "You're going to be dancing with it," her sports psychologist told her about the mountain, "so get to know it." That dance between fear and achievement colors every step of her journey, whether navigating exposed ridges where one misstep means a 6,000-foot fall or facing wild boars on Spanish training runs.Now preparing for World Championships, Jasmine paints a vivid picture of what awaits: a course unlike any typical trail race. With significant sections completely off-trail through grassy fields and technical gullies, dozens of punishing switchbacks, and terrain so challenging "it's going to run like a 120K race" despite being only 50 miles. The technical downhills will favor skilled mountain runners over pure speed specialists, creating an unpredictable race where "dark horses" might challenge established champions.Beyond the physical challenges, Jasmine thoughtfully addresses broader issues facing trail running—from the complexities of anti-doping enforcement to the special feeling of representing Canada on an international stage. Her perspective balances competitive fire with genuine appreciation for the mountain environments and community that make this sport so compelling.Looking to challenge yourself on technical mountain terrain? Listen now for insights from someone who's mastering the art of dancing with mountains, and follow Jasmine's journey as she carries the maple leaf to Spain's most demanding trails.Follow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textStanding at the base of Pike's Peak, staring up at the formidable 14,115-foot summit piercing the Colorado sky, runners face more than just a grueling physical challenge—they confront what veterans call "the ultimate mental battle." Every year, over 2,500 athletes from 46 states and eight countries gather in Manitou Springs to test their limits in America's most iconic mountain race.What keeps bringing elite and recreational runners back to this punishing course year after year? As one participant puts it: "You know this is a test against yourself... everybody that's out here is doing it and everybody's testing themselves." The Pike's Peak Marathon and Ascent aren't merely races; they're deeply personal journeys of self-discovery set against the backdrop of one of America's most magnificent mountains.We dive deep into what makes the 2025 edition particularly compelling, examining the stacked elite fields in both the Ascent and Marathon races. The Ascent competition looks especially fierce this year, with Seth DeMoore, Brian Whitfield, Mika Bowdoin, and rising star Zach Erickson headlining the men's field, while Reena Schwartz leads an equally impressive women's contingent. Meanwhile, John Sinclair and Christina Conati both chase historic fourth consecutive victories in the Marathon.The podcast also explores what sets Pike's Peak apart as one of America's three oldest trail races alongside Dipsea and Mount Marathon in Alaska. We examine the community cultures surrounding each event, race strategies for conquering the mountain's brutal upper sections, and ideas for enhancing the Pike's Peak experience for both participants and spectators. Whether you're a competitive mountain runner or simply fascinated by what drives humans to push their limits at 14,000 feet, this episode offers an inspiring look at the physical and psychological journey that awaits on America's Ultimate Challenge.Ready to test yourself against the mountain? Join us as we unravel what makes Pike's Peak the definitive proving ground for trail runners from around the world.Follow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textPike's Peak isn't just a mountain—it's America's Ultimate Challenge. Rising dramatically from 6,000 to 14,000 feet, this Colorado landmark draws over 2,500 runners annually from across the globe, all seeking to test their limits against its unforgiving terrain.What makes this race truly special? As elite mountain runner Kiern Nay explains, "It's just you're constantly wondering if you're going too hard and if you're going to die." Unlike strategic ultra events where pacing and problem-solving matter, Pike's Peak demands maximum effort from start to finish—a "total red line from the gun to the top." Pull back even slightly, and the mountain makes you pay.For Kieran, who grew up in Colorado Springs with Pike's Peak as his constant backdrop, the mountain represents both personal history and professional benchmark. After finishing an impressive fifth place in his first competitive trail race there at age 20, he returns year after year, drawn by the mountain's brutal honesty and the race's rich tradition. "You know this is a test against yourself," he reflects, highlighting why this race transcends competition to become something more profound.The podcast explores Kieran's evolution as an athlete, from focusing on shorter mountain races to embracing longer challenges like the Grand Traverse and Speed Goat. We also dive into his upcoming adventure representing Team USA at the Continental Sky Running Championships in Mexico, where he'll race at elevations exceeding 15,000 feet. Throughout our conversation, Kieran shares insights into high-altitude training, race preparation, and building community among elite mountain runners in Colorado's Gunnison Valley.Whether you're a dedicated trail runner or simply fascinated by what drives athletes to push their limits, this episode offers a compelling glimpse into the mind of an elite mountain runner and the iconic race that continues to define his journey. Subscribe now and join us for more inspiring conversations with the remarkable athletes who call the mountains their proving ground.Follow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textThe mountain looms ahead, a vertical challenge that tests not just physical endurance but mental fortitude. "It's just you're constantly wondering if you're going too hard and if you're going to die," says one elite runner, capturing perfectly why uphill racing has become such a compelling discipline within trail running.We dive deep into the world of vertical challenges, exploring America's Ultimate Challenge at Pike's Peak, where over 2,500 runners from 46 different states and eight foreign countries gather annually to push their limits. The conversation takes us across continents as we compare the established European uphill racing scene with its growing American counterpart, examining what makes these pure tests of human endurance so addictive for those who attempt them.From the grueling Bar Horn race in Switzerland with its staggering 10,500 feet of vertical gain to the community-focused Mount Ashland Hill Climb, we explore different race formats and what makes each unique. Elite runners share their strategies for conquering these monsters – from specialized nutrition approaches that favor liquid carbohydrates to equipment choices like modified road shoes that maximize efficiency on the climbs.Perhaps most fascinating is the psychological component of uphill racing. The successful athlete must master the art of measured effort, knowing when to push and when to conserve, while constantly battling the inner voice that questions if they're going too hard or not hard enough. As one runner puts it, "You know this is a test against yourself... everybody that's out here is doing it and everybody's testing themselves."Whether you're a seasoned mountain goat or curious about why anyone would willingly subject themselves to thousands of feet of continuous climbing, this conversation reveals the pure, primal satisfaction that comes from starting at the bottom and finishing at the top – testing your limits against gravity itself.Follow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textThe mental battle against the mountain defines Pike's Peak Ascent, drawing thousands to test their limits at what's rightfully earned its reputation as "America's Ultimate Challenge." Elite trail runners reveal that beyond physical preparation, it's the psychological fortitude required that brings them back year after year.When asked what keeps competitors returning to this grueling ascent, the answer is simple yet profound: "You're constantly wondering if you're going too hard and if you're going to die." This raw honesty captures why over 2,500 runners from 46 states and eight countries gather annually in Manitou Springs to push themselves toward the clouds. For veterans and newcomers alike, Pike's Peak represents something deeper than competition against others—it's a personal test against oneself.We dive into the world of professional trail running with elite athlete Sarah, who shares insights from her remarkable season racing across Europe and the United States. From the mud-soaked technical descents of Plitzalpin Glacier Trail to the passionate fans lining OCC's course in Chamonix, Sarah offers a glimpse into the highest levels of mountain racing. Her perspective on balancing mental energy across multiple high-stakes races provides valuable wisdom: "You can only put your soul on the line so many times in a season."The conversation highlights a fascinating contrast between European and American race atmospheres. While European events boast incredible spectator culture with fans cheering in remote mountain locations regardless of weather, American races are still developing this vibrant support system. "There's something about being 30 miles into a race and having people cheer your name that gives you a little more life," Sarah notes, suggesting that perhaps all we need is a "cowbell fund" to elevate the American trail racing experience.Whether you're an aspiring mountain runner or simply fascinated by those who challenge themselves in extreme environments, this exploration of Pike's Peak Ascent reveals why this iconic race continues to captivate the imagination and test the limits of human endurance. Join us for an intimate look at what drives athletes to push beyond their perceived limitations when the mountain calls.Follow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textEvery summer, thousands of runners journey to Manitou Springs for America's Ultimate Challenge – the legendary Pikes Peak Marathon. For three-time champion Kristina Mascarenas, this race represents something far deeper than just another mountain to conquer."It's just you're constantly wondering if you're going too hard and if you're going to die," Kristina candidly shares, capturing the essence of what draws elite athletes back to this grueling event year after year. "You know this is a test against yourself. Everybody that's out here is doing it and everybody's testing themselves."In this revealing conversation, Kristina opens up about her 2024 racing season, including a difficult DNF at Black Canyon 100K that prompted her to refocus on events that bring joy rather than pressure. She discusses her strategic approach to shorter races like the Broken Arrow 23K and her triumphant win at the Barr Trail Mountain Race – perfect preparation for her upcoming attempt at a historic fourth Pikes Peak Marathon victory.The personal connection to Pikes Peak runs deep for Kristina, who's planning a multi-generational family participation for next year's race. Her intimate knowledge of every section of the mountain, from equipment choices to weather considerations, reveals why she's become synonymous with this iconic event. Yet she remains humble, joking about being labeled a "backyard betty" despite achievements that place her among the all-time greats of mountain running.Whether you're fascinated by the mental aspects of endurance sports, curious about elite training approaches, or simply drawn to stories of human potential, Christina's journey reminds us why we challenge mountains – not just to reach their summits, but to discover what lies within ourselves when pushed to the edge of possibility.Follow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textThe mental and physical crucible of Pike's Peak brings together over 2,500 runners annually to test themselves against what organizers aptly call "America's Ultimate Challenge." What drives athletes back to this mountain year after year? As one elite runner explains, "You're constantly wondering if you're going too hard and if you're going to die... it's an ultimate mental battle."This conversation dives deep into the psychology of mountain racing, examining how athletes approach a challenge where the real competition isn't other runners but the mountain itself. "I don't care what racers show up," shares a veteran competitor. "This is a test against yourself. Everybody that's out here is doing it, everybody's testing themselves."We explore the strategic elements that make Pike's Peak particularly demanding - from pacing the notorious "W's" section where "you can't gain much but can sure as hell lose a lot," to adapting nutrition strategies as altitude increases and digestive challenges mount. Elite runners share their training approaches, balancing structured workouts with time spent "running in the mountains, getting in the Alpine, seeing cool lakes and tagging some peaks."The discussion reveals how these athletes think about race craft - the mental calculations, the physical adaptations to altitude, and the nutrition strategies that evolve from trailhead to summit. For anyone fascinated by endurance psychology or considering their own mountain challenge, this episode offers both practical wisdom and a window into what happens when body and mind are pushed to their limits against one of America's most iconic peaks.Curious about what it takes to conquer your own mountains - literal or metaphorical? Listen now for insights that extend far beyond the trail.Follow Jeff on IG - @jefe.cunoFollow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textWhat does it take to conquer one of America's most grueling mountain races? Elite trail runner James Reeves takes us behind the scenes of his preparation for Pike's Peak, a race that draws over 2,500 runners annually from 46 states and eight countries to challenge themselves against the formidable Colorado mountain."It's just you're constantly wondering if you're going too hard and if you're going to die," Reeves explains about the race experience. "It's an ultimate mental battle." Having previously posted an impressive 2:14:55 at Pike's Peak in 2023, Reeves now returns with ambitious goals after relocating to Colorado's Gunnison Valley for optimal mountain training.The conversation offers a fascinating glimpse into the life of a dedicated mountain athlete. Reeves shares how his recent move from Colorado Springs to the more rural Gunnison provides superior access to high-altitude training in both the Elk Mountains and San Juan ranges. This strategic relocation allows him to "drive to altitude" rather than relying on altitude tents, creating ideal conditions for Pike's Peak preparation.Fresh off a top-five finish at the Cirque Series A-Basin race among 700 competitors, Reeves demonstrates his current fitness level despite being in the middle of a rigorous training block. His approach balances competitive drive with strategic racing: "If I had to choose running a PR or running for first place, I would choose to run for first place." This mentality reveals the tactical thinking required for mountain racing success.Beyond Pike's Peak, Reeves details his plans for the Kodiak 50K (a UTMB World Series Major) and the USATF Half Marathon Championships in Moab. His insights into the mental aspects of endurance racing, training at altitude, and finding motivation through challenges provide valuable perspective for athletes of all levels.Join us for this compelling conversation and discover why these mountain challenges continue to draw athletes back year after year. Ready to elevate your own running journey? Subscribe now and get inspired by more stories from the trail running elite.Follow Brian on IG - @bwhitfield_Follow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textWhat makes a mountain race become legendary? In this deep dive into the historic Pikes Peak Marathon and Ascent, we're joined by Mark Tatum to uncover the remarkable journey of America's third-oldest and longest consecutively running marathon.From its unlikely origins—when a Finnish doctor challenged smokers to race him up the mountain in 1958—to Arlene Piper becoming the first woman to complete a marathon in the United States in 1959 (in "dime store tennis shoes"), the race's heritage is as rich as the mountain is tall. We explore how the Jemez Pueblo runners dominated the early years and how Matt Carpenter's obsession with the mountain created records that stood untouchable for decades.The mountain itself becomes a character in this story, humbling even the greatest athletes who've attempted to conquer it. We dissect the strategic challenges of racing at 14,000 feet, where oxygen drops by 40%, the infamous "W's" section can make or break your race, and unpredictable weather adds another layer of complexity. Through the years, Pikes Peak has witnessed the evolution of trail running itself—from local heroes to international superstars like Kilian Jornet, Rémi Bonnet, and Kim Dobson making their mark.Whether you're a mountain running enthusiast or simply fascinated by endurance challenges that push human limits, this conversation reveals why Pikes Peak continues to captivate runners worldwide. As one racer put it: "It's just you're constantly wondering if you're going too hard and if you're going to die. It's the ultimate mental battle." And perhaps that's exactly why they keep coming back.Follow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textEver wonder how a mountain runner's motivations evolve over decades in the sport? Anton Krupicka opens up about his remarkable journey from Nebraska ranch kid to ultrarunning legend in this captivating conversation recorded live at La Sportiva Boulder.Anton shares the origin story of his running career, from his science scholarship at Colorado College to his early days working at Colorado Running Company and running with the legendary Matt Carpenter. He reflects candidly on how serendipity shaped his path—when a missed email about the Pikes Peak Marathon entry led him to run and win Leadville 100 at just 23 years old.The conversation takes a thoughtful turn as Anton discusses the controversial Grand Teton FKT situation involving Michelino Sunseri. "For me, FKTs have always been about developing a relationship with a place and putting in the time to appreciate it," Anton explains, offering nuanced perspectives on the evolving ethics of mountain records in an increasingly regulated landscape.Perhaps most revealing is Anton's reflection on how his motivations have transformed. "Ten years ago, I wanted to prove myself and be on top of the sport," he admits. "Now it's completely different—all my motivations are intrinsic." Currently recovering from an Achilles injury at 42, he shares surprising insights about finding his greatest fitness after 40 and his transition from competitive athlete to product developer with La Sportiva.For aspiring mountain runners, Anton offers wisdom earned through decades of highs and lows: "Performance is necessary, but it's important to have a value structure you're committed to. Figure out who you are and remain true to yourself."What makes this conversation special is Anton's willingness to look back with honesty and forward with curiosity. Have you found your motivations shifting as you've grown in your running journey? Listen now and join the conversation.Follow Anton on IG - @antonkrupickaFollow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textBalancing on the knife edge between breakthrough performance and burnout, Benjamin Townsend takes us behind the scenes of his remarkable season traversing continents in pursuit of skyrunning glory. From the humid jungles of Malaysia to the technical Alps, his journey reveals the unseen challenges young athletes face when building a global racing career.The conversation opens with Benjamin's qualification for the U23 Skyrunner World Series Final and his rollercoaster experiences competing internationally. After a devastating DNF in Spain where debilitating foot pain left him unable to continue, Benjamin rebounded spectacularly with his first U23 win at Japan's Weta Sky Race - a grueling 16-mile course with over 10,000 feet of vertical gain. The victory marked a pivotal moment, confirming he belongs among the sport's elite.What makes this episode particularly valuable are Benjamin's candid reflections on the physical and logistical challenges of international competition. He details his specialized training approach - using a 40% incline treadmill to develop the power hiking skills Americans often lack compared to Europeans from skiing backgrounds. These insights reveal the technical demands of true skyrunning that casual fans might not appreciate.Perhaps most compelling is Benjamin's vulnerability discussing the fatigue that eventually caught up with him. "I've been pretty much tired since July," he admits, acknowledging the lesson that saying yes to every opportunity has consequences. This hard-earned wisdom shapes his evolving approach to racing strategy and career longevity.The episode peaks with Benjamin's breakthrough at Broken Arrow, where he slashed nearly 20 minutes from his previous time to finish in the top 20. This performance didn't just catch the attention of major brands - it fundamentally shifted his timeline for reaching the sport's pinnacle. "My why hasn't changed," he reflects, "but the when has... it feels a lot closer than before."Whether you're an aspiring mountain athlete or simply fascinated by the mental and physical demands of elite endurance sports, Benjamin's journey offers a rare glimpse into the realities of building an international racing career from the ground up.Follow Benjamin on IG - @benjamin.tsendFollow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textJoin us Thursday Sept 11th for a Live Pod with Anton Krupicka at the La Sportiva Flagship store in Boulder, Colorado When - Thursday September 11thWhat - Group Run & Live Podcast with Anton KrupickaTiming - Group Run Starts at 5:30 pm / Live Pod Starts (around) 6:45/7pm RSVP - https://www.eventbrite.com/e/la-sportiva-summer-run-series-tickets-1344591662859

Send us a textMeet Abby Stone, a 19-year-old trail running phenom who's rewriting the traditional path to mountain running success. After placing 19th at the prestigious Broken Arrow Skyrace 23K in her first-ever trail race, Abby made the bold decision to leave collegiate running behind and dive headfirst into the world of mountain racing.What makes Abby's story so compelling is her refreshing perspective on competition. While she struggled with the pressure and "business" side of track and cross country, she found immediate joy on the trails. "I've never been a big racer, always hated racing like cross country and track," she explains. "And then as soon as I stepped on trails, I have the funnest time." This fundamental shift in mindset has propelled her to unexpected heights, including earning a spot on Team USA for the World Mountain Running Championships in the U20 division.Growing up in the mountains of Utah gave Abby a natural affinity for technical terrain, complemented by her background as a climber. This multidisciplinary approach gives her a distinct advantage on challenging courses that require scrambling skills—something she hopes to leverage in future Skyrunning events. Her unique combination of steeplechase experience, climbing ability, and pure love for mountain environments positions her as an exciting talent to watch in the coming years.Beyond racing, Abby balances her running ambitions with training to become a paramedic, eventually hoping to join search and rescue operations. This pragmatic approach to building dual careers showcases a maturity beyond her years, as she navigates the emerging opportunities for professional trail runners while maintaining perspective on long-term goals.Follow Abby's journey as she prepares to represent the United States on the world stage, and witness firsthand how the next generation of trail runners is forging new paths in the sport. Give her a follow on Instagram at abbystone0 and let her know what you thought about this conversation!Follow Abby on IG - @abbystone0Follow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textWhat happens when an elite trail runner must quickly transition from racing a grueling mountain ultramarathon to coaching other athletes through their own epic challenges? Addison Smith lives this reality, and in our captivating conversation, he reveals the fascinating duality of his role at the UTMB festival in Chamonix.Fresh off his performance at the OCC race, Addison shares the mental gymnastics required to shift from competitor to coach within hours. "When you're really tired, in terms of making mistakes for my athletes, it's like I need to be on when it's time to be on," he explains, offering a rare glimpse into the behind-the-scenes reality of professional coaching at one of trail running's most prestigious events.As a coach for Carmichael Training Systems with a master's degree in movement science, Addison brings exceptional depth to our discussion about the science of ultrarunning. We dive into precision hydration testing, exploring how sodium concentration in sweat impacts performance and how athletes can determine their unique needs. His practical approach blends scientific knowledge with real-world racing experience, making complex concepts accessible and immediately applicable.The conversation takes fascinating turns as we discuss the evolution of training methodologies, the value of various metrics from heart rate to perceived exertion, and the future of trail running as a potential Olympic sport. Addison's balanced perspective—embracing the competitive aspects while honoring the community values that make trail running special—offers wisdom for both elite competitors and weekend warriors.Whether you're struggling with race-day cramping, curious about coaching approaches at the highest level, or interested in how the sport might evolve, this episode delivers actionable insights and thought-provoking perspectives from someone who truly lives at the intersection of competitive racing and professional coaching.Follow Addison on IG - @addison_smith16Reach out to Addison for Coaching - @CTSFollow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textWhen a Nordic Combined athlete transitions to mountain running, the results can be remarkable. Adam Loomis brings unique insights from his years as a national team ski jumper and cross-country skier to the challenging world of technical mountain races and ultramarathons. Having recently won the Telluride Mountain Run 40-mile race with a course record, Loomis opens up about how his specialized background has shaped his approach to trail running."Training for Nordic Combined, you're combining very, very different sports," Loomis explains, describing how balancing the power and technique of ski jumping with cross-country skiing's endurance demands created an ideal foundation for mountain running. This versatility shows in his impressive range – from placing top five at the technical Speed Goat 50K to taking podium positions at the 100-mile Run Rabbit Run.The conversation explores life in Park City, where Loomis enjoys unparalleled mountain access while working at the Utah Olympic Park. He shares vivid details of racing experiences, including debilitating hamstring cramps during Speed Goat and the unique challenges of Run Rabbit Run ("way harder than it looks on paper"). Loomis offers thoughtful perspectives on the growing Salt Lake running scene and his friendly rivalry with fellow Wasatch runner Grant Barnett.As the sport evolves, Loomis maintains a balanced view on professionalization while hoping the grassroots elements of trail running remain intact. His focus now turns to The Rut 50K and future international races like CCC, where his proficiency with poles (a skill transferred directly from Nordic skiing) should serve him well. For anyone fascinated by athletic versatility and the mental aspects of endurance sports, Loomis provides a compelling blueprint of how diverse athletic backgrounds create exceptional mountain runners.Ready to improve your own mountain adventures? Use code STEEPSTUFFPOD for 25% off at Ultimate Direction, and join us for more conversations with elite mountain athletes.Follow Adam on IG - @skiloomisFollow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textDive into the remarkable dual journey of Nicholas Turco, who seamlessly navigates the demanding worlds of elite trail running and international diplomacy. As one of only three American men invited to the prestigious Golden Trail World Series Final in Italy, Nicholas has established himself among the country's top mountain runners while simultaneously serving as a consultant for the United Nations Human Rights Office.From the vertical trails of Durango that shaped his early running career to the halls of the UN in Geneva, Nicholas shares how he's intentionally crafted a life that honors both passions without compromise. His breakthrough performances this season at races like Broken Arrow Skyrace and the Golden Trail event in Mexico showcase an athlete hitting his stride on the world stage.What makes Nicholas's story particularly compelling is his candid discussion of overcoming performance anxiety through sports psychology and his work with the US Olympic Committee. He reveals how addressing cortisol imbalances and implementing specific breathing techniques transformed his racing experience, allowing him to perform at his best when the stakes are highest.Beyond his personal achievements, Nicholas is pioneering an innovative project connecting Olympic athletes with UN humanitarian efforts, leveraging the power of sport for global impact. As an openly LGBT athlete, he's also passionate about creating inclusive spaces where everyone feels they belong in their athletic dreams.Whether you're juggling multiple career paths, struggling with performance anxiety, or simply fascinated by how elite athletes structure their lives, this conversation offers valuable insights into balancing high-level performance across different domains. Nicholas's message that "if you continue to do what you want to be, you will become it" serves as powerful inspiration for anyone pursuing seemingly divergent passions.Follow Nicholas on Instagram @turco_nicholas as he prepares for the Golden Trail World Series Final and continues his journey toward representing Team USA in international competition while making a difference on the global stage.Follow Nicholas on IG - @turco_nicholasFollow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textBronze medal Nordic skier Michael Earnhart opens up about the fascinating overlap between skiing and trail running, revealing why skiers consistently dominate mountain races despite minimal running-specific training. His journey from a young Alaskan runner to Olympic-level Nordic skier provides a unique window into the physiological and methodological advantages that transfer between sports.The secret lies in the structured, periodized training approach that Nordic skiers follow religiously. While runners might log impressive mileage, skiers focus on heart rate zones, threshold training, and extensive time under tension that builds tremendous leg strength. "We just have these massive engines," Earnhardt explains, describing how their cardiovascular development allows them to power up mountains with relative ease. Their training involves 4-5 hour sessions on snow, creating adaptations that perfectly translate to steep mountain terrain.Earnhart shares his experiences at iconic races like Mount Marathon and Cirque Series Alyaska, where he placed third behind professional mountain runners despite focusing primarily on his skiing career. The significance of these races extends beyond competition—Mount Marathon serves as his showcase to the Alaskan community that might not follow his international skiing accomplishments. His training at Alaska's glacier facility offers a glimpse into the specialized preparation that elite Nordic skiers undertake, skiing on snow even during summer months.The conversation reveals fascinating insights about the future of both sports, with Earnhardt suggesting he might transition to professional trail running after his Nordic skiing career concludes. With his massive aerobic engine already built through years of skiing, he'd only need to develop more running-specific strength to compete at the highest levels. His journey represents the evolving intersection between endurance sports, where cross-pollination of training methodologies continues to raise the competitive bar.Subscribe now to hear more conversations with elite athletes who are redefining what's possible in mountain endurance sports. Follow Michael on Instagram @m.earnhart to keep up with his skiing and running adventures through the Alaskan wilderness.Follow Michael on IG - @m.earnhartFollow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textMatt Daniels opens up about his journey through the highs and lows of professional trail running in this wide-ranging, candid conversation. After battling significant health issues from mold exposure while simultaneously going through a divorce, Daniels shares how he's rebuilding his season around the prestigious Run Rabbit Run ultramarathon.The conversation takes us behind the scenes of the phenomenally successful Boulder Boys podcast, which Daniels co-hosts. What started as casual conversations among friends has evolved into one of trail running's most popular media outlets, now part of Jonathan Levitt's podcast collective. Daniels' insights into this unexpected career development reveal how athletes can build platforms beyond their competitive results.As a former Nike-sponsored athlete with experience at world-class events like Sierre-Zinal and Zegama, Daniels offers a rare perspective on the sponsorship landscape in trail running. At 37, he speaks frankly about how his priorities have shifted—now seeking partnerships that value his community contributions alongside race results. His partnership with Hyperlight nutrition exemplifies this approach, where relationship quality trumps transactional sponsorship.Throughout the conversation, Daniels thoughtfully addresses the future of trail running, expressing concerns about potential Olympic inclusion while acknowledging the sport's growing professionalization. His training approach for Run Rabbit Run (focusing on time rather than mileage) and plans for races like JFK 50 and Black Canyon provide valuable insights for ultrarunners at any level.Whether you're fascinated by the business side of trail running, interested in ultramarathon training approaches, or simply enjoy authentic conversations with thoughtful athletes, this episode delivers remarkable depth and honesty. Follow Matt on Instagram @mattdaniels480, check out the Boulder Boys podcast, and reach out directly if you're interested in his coaching services.Follow Matt on IG - @mattdaniels480Follow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textGet ready for an exhilarating UTMB OCC race preview that blends expert analysis with laugh-out-loud banter! James Lariello teams up with Teddy Tonelli from the Chasing Trail podcast to break down this iconic 55K mountain race that features over 11,000 feet of climbing through some of the most spectacular terrain in the Alps.The duo dives deep into what makes OCC special - from its technical course that prohibits switchback cutting to the mandatory gear requirements that add an extra layer of challenge. With forecasts showing potential rain and temperatures ranging from 48-68°F, the stage is set for an unpredictable battle on the trails.At the heart of this preview is the much-anticipated showdown between Jim Walmsley and Adam Peterman, two American ultra-running stars rarely seen competing in the same race. Has Walmsley's move to France (and his newly acquired French accent, as the hosts joke) given him the European edge? Can Peterman, coming back from injuries, reclaim his position among the elite? The hosts also highlight other Americans to watch including Michelino Sanseri and rising star Cade Michael.On the women's side, defending champion and course record holder Mao Yao returns to face stiff competition from Switzerland's Judith Weider and a strong American contingent led by Hannah Allgood and Sophia Lockley. Canadian Jasmine Lather, fresh off setting records on the Grand Teton, brings her exceptional climbing ability into the mix.Between the analysis, Teddy and James deliver hilarious commentary on everything from European shower habits to the dangers of aggressive Alpine cows, making this preview as entertaining as it is informative. Their chemistry shines through as they debate their podium picks and contemplate the future of betting in trail running.Whether you're planning to follow the live coverage or just want to understand what makes OCC one of the most competitive races of the UTMB weekend, this episode offers the perfect blend of insight, predictions, and trail running culture. Tune in before Thursday's race to get fully primed for what promises to be an epic mountain running showdown!Follow Chasing Trail on Spotify - @chasingtrail Follow Chasing Trail on Apple - @chasingtrailFollow Chasing Trail on Youtube - @chasingtrailFollow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textEver wonder what happens when one of America's most talented track athletes fully commits to the trails? Liam Meirow joins us fresh off his win at the Y East Trail Fest 28K to share exactly that journey.Growing up in Summit County, Colorado, Liam's path wasn't initially pointed toward running - he dreamed of becoming a professional skateboarder or snowboarder. After finding success in high school running, he pursued a collegiate career at Oklahoma, where despite dedication, he never quite reached his full potential. The true breakthrough came after graduation when the pressure lifted and freedom entered his training approach."When you feel good and there's no stress, things just come easier," Liam explains, describing how his post-collegiate mindset shift led to remarkable performances. After joining Bowerman Track Club's elite team in Portland and working for Nike, Liam gradually transitioned to trail running. The pivotal moment arrived in 2023 when he made Team USA for the World Mountain and Trail Running Championships in Austria, placing as the top North American.What makes this conversation particularly illuminating is Liam's candid discussion of the mental challenges elite athletes face. After signing with Nike and experiencing early success, the 2024 season brought struggles and disappointment, including missing the World Championship team. Through this adversity, Liam rediscovered his fundamental motivation: "The rock's always there. You just have to block out that other stuff and bring it back."Today, Liam balances track workouts with trail adventures, mixing distances from 28K to 50K while keeping his training fresh and motivating. As the sport of trail running grows and evolves, his perspective on maintaining its soul while embracing professional opportunities provides valuable insight for where we might be headed.Have you been overthinking your running? This episode might just inspire you to reconnect with the joy and freedom that made you fall in love with the sport in the first place.Follow Liam on IG - @liamrunsFollow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com!