The Steep Stuff Podcast

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Send us a textA world-level skyrace is returning to U.S. soil, and the path runs straight up a rugged Olympic Mountains summit. We sit down with race director and media voice Mathias Eichler to unpack how Beast of Big Creek became the only U.S. stop on the Skyrunner World Series, what ISF course certification really requires, and how you scale a steep, technical route without breaking the wilderness that makes it magic.Mathias shares the full arc: inheriting a beloved local race, modernizing without losing soul, and navigating permits, fires, trail capacity, and access in a part of Washington that's breathtaking and stubbornly off-grid. We get practical about logistics—Olympia as a pre-race hub, ferry approaches from Seattle, limited parking, and why camping might be a feature, not a bug. Along the way, we zoom out to the sport's bigger picture: why short trail and VK-style events thrive in Europe, how UTMB, Golden Trail, and Cirque each shape the calendar, and what it will take to build a real fan culture here—cheer zones, better visuals, and honest, story-driven media.Expect sharp takes on world championship timing, sponsor incentives, and how to film races that live above treeline. If you care about the future of American skyrunning—course design, elite fields, and spectator experience—this conversation is your field guide to what's next and what's possible.Enjoyed the episode? Subscribe, share with a trail friend, and leave a review on Apple or Spotify. Your feedback helps more runners discover new mountains to climb.Follow Mathias on IG - @einmaleins / @electric.cable.carFollow The Beast of Big Creek on IG for Updates - @beastofbigcreekListen to Mathias on Electric Cable Car - @electriccablecarCheck out Electric Cable Car Online - @electriccablecarCheck out the Beast of Big Creek online - @beastofbigcreekFollow James on IG - @jameslauriello Follow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_pod Use code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com!

Send us a textThe ache that won't sit still, the quad-dominant stride, the back that tightens after miles on trail—none of it is random. We invited Dr. Sean Rimmer, PT, DPT of Run Potential PT, to unpack how the pelvis truly drives running: three-plane motion, rotational loading, and the elastic recoil that makes a stride feel effortless. When the pelvis stops moving, hips overwork, nerves get irritated, and the system loses its spring. Sean explains how to spot the difference between hip, pelvis, and nerve-driven pain, and why a shifting, vague ache is often a neural clue rather than a muscle tear.We go deep on practical solutions you can apply today. Sean demos walking pelvic rotations and reverse steps to restore glide and rotation, and shows how a simple flow rope builds rhythm, timing, and side-to-side weight shift that mirrors efficient running mechanics. He also shares quick self-screens—pelvic side glides and marching with hands on the pelvis—to reveal blocked planes of motion. If you've been told “anterior pelvic tilt” is your problem, you'll learn why hip flexor rotation is the missing piece and how better sequencing beats endless stretching.Strength that actually transfers to performance is the final lever. Sean outlines heavy split-stance isometrics to load the glute–ham complex the way running demands—fast stabilization with tendon recoil—without crushing soreness during hard training blocks. Expect clearer cues, less quad overload, and a snappier, more resilient stride within weeks. Whether you're dealing with nerve flare-ups, stubborn hip tightness, or you just want more power and durability, this conversation gives you a blueprint: restore pelvic motion, retrain rhythm, and load what matters.If this helped, subscribe, share it with a running friend, and leave a quick review on your favorite app. Tell us which drill changed your stride first, and what body area you want us to tackle next.Follow Sean on IG - @runpotentialptContact Sean for PT - @runpotentialptCheck out Run Potential PT online - @runpotentialptFollow James on IG - @jameslauriello Follow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_pod Use code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com!

Send us a textThe sport keeps growing, the livestreams keep improving, and the fields get deeper every year—so why do so many iconic ultras still offer zero prize money? We sit down with Eric, the builder behind Run Fund, to unpack a direct, no-drama solution: let the community and sponsors crowdfund purses that pay athletes fairly and transparently. No betting, no gimmicks, just clean rails that move money from fans and brands to finishers.We dig into how Run Fund works behind the scenes—escrowed funds, Stripe payouts in seven to ten days, and simple tax handling—plus the decision to split purses 50-50 for men and women by default. Eric explains why the platform leans on existing adjudication for races and FKTs, how it handles athletes serving sanctions, and what happens when a drug test lands months after the podium photos. We also explore the “nonprofit” defense from legacy races, the quiet dependence on brand bonuses, and what it means for an unsponsored winner to take home nothing while a contract athlete cashes a check for the same result.The conversation stretches from six-figure short trail purses to the potential of FKT bounties on iconic routes like the AT, where attempts demand serious logistics and community support. We talk partnerships with organizers who want the visibility of prize money without building new infrastructure, and why grassroots races can benefit just as much as marquee events—because $500 to a regional winner can pull a whole club onto a start line next year. Eric shares early targets like HURT and Black Canyon, thoughts on future international expansion, and a fan-first vision that boosts engagement without crossing into gambling.If you care about fair pay, athlete pathways, and a healthier event ecosystem, this one's for you. Hit play, then tell us: which race should get a crowdfunded purse next? Subscribe, share with a friend who races, and drop a review to keep the conversation moving.Check out the Run.Fund - Run.FundFollow James on IG - @jameslauriello Follow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_pod Use code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com!

Send us a textWhat does it take to choose the mountains when a different calling has your heart? We sit with Arc'teryx athlete Emma Cook-Clarke for a candid, high-altitude conversation about identity, risk, and the rare joy of sustainable excellence. Emma reflects on a season loaded with contrasts—top 10 in the world at the uphill and a historic team bronze for Canada, a Speedgoat podium in a record-fast year, and the sting of missing Olympic SkiMo qualification—then walks us through how she's rebuilding momentum by staying grounded in Canmore and training by feel.Emma's path didn't start on talus. Gymnastics built composure, rugby taught grit and trust, and running unlocked freedom. A local uphill challenge during the pandemic revealed world-class climbing talent and led to her Arc'teryx partnership—support that feels like true professionalism: wellness first, smart planning, and access to specialists. We dig into her decision to step away from structural firefighting, drawing clear lines from the fireground to the backcountry: risk a lot to save a lot, fight complacency, and communicate with purpose. That same mindset shows up on technical ridges, at chaotic VK starts, and when the watch tries to drown out intuition.You'll hear a tactical breakdown of World Champs VK strategy, the team dynamics behind Canada's first-ever medal, and a pacing masterclass from Speedgoat—altitude, heat, and humility yielding a steady engine and a late-race surge. We also celebrate the soul of skyrunning at Meet the Minotaur, where handbuilt trails and scree descents keep adventure alive, and we talk Rockies reality: bear spray, smart route choices, and a rare, unforgettable wolverine sighting that reminds us to look up and simply watch.If you're an athlete navigating big goals, a fan of skyrunning and SkiMo, or someone weighing a hard life pivot, Emma's story offers a clear compass: protect your joy, respect risk, and let the mountains reshape what success looks like. Enjoy the conversation—and if it moves you, subscribe, share with a friend who needs it, and drop a review to help others find the show.Follow Emma on IG - @emcookclarkeFollow James on IG - @jameslauriello Follow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_pod Use code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com!

Send us a textBreaking news rarely hits mountain running like this. The World Skyrunner Series is officially returning to the United States, and the Beast of Big Creek on Washington's Olympic Peninsula is the stage. We dive straight into what makes this 23K course so compelling: sustained grades exceeding 20 percent, a clean up-and-down profile that rewards efficient climbers and fearless descenders, and a summit near 6,000 feet that avoids altitude headaches without losing the punch. With 1.5x points on offer, we make the case for why European stars could cross the Atlantic and why sub-two hours might be in play.We unpack the “why here” question through logistics and strategy. Seattle's international access makes travel simple, while the terrain delivers classic skyrunning character without sprawling altitude or complex permitting. Then we zoom out: how ISF certification interacts with the World Series, the signals from Whiteface and Broken Arrow, and whether a U.S. skyrunning series is waiting in the wings. We compare philosophies too, contrasting Golden Trail's media-friendly flower loops with skyrunning's traditional aesthetic lines and discussing why a tighter global calendar could sharpen competition and improve storytelling.This is also a conversation about athlete pathways. If more U.S. events gain certification, short-trail standouts, collegiate converts, and VK specialists can build toward European icons like Matterhorn and Trofeo Kima without crossing oceans for every test. We talk rumors, real implications for the Northeast and Pacific Northwest scenes, and how brands and athletes might respond if skyrunning gains momentum here. Hit play to catch our hot takes, practical race analysis, and the questions that will define the next phase of American mountain running. If you enjoy the show, follow, share with a trail friend, and leave a quick review—what race should be the next U.S. skyrunning stop?Follow James on IG - @jameslauriello Follow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_pod Use code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com!

Send us a textWhat happens when a top ultrarunner steps behind the curtain and starts managing athletes, budgets, and contracts—while still chasing Western States dreams? We sat down with Coree Woltring for an unfiltered deep dive into the modern trail ecosystem: how sponsorships really get done, why timing matters, what brands value beyond results, and how the sport can better support its athletes.Coree traces his arc from triathlon hopeful to crewing Leadville, to a breakout North Face contract sparked by a well-timed magazine article. Then the script flips. He explains life on both sides of the table at Merrell—shaping a roster that spans Skyrunner World Series, Western States, and UTMB—while guiding athletes through contract season, social expectations, and the art of the ask. If you're wondering how to pitch a brand, whether to hire an agent, or how to stand out without selling out, Coree's playbook is refreshingly clear: start early, know your value, and communicate like a pro.We also tackle the money question head-on. From Broken Arrow's big prize purse to the financial squeeze on golden ticket chasers, Corey lays out why meaningful prize money and smarter collaboration between races and brands would elevate competition and sustainability. And when injury forced a midyear reset, photography and storytelling filled the gap—leading to paid work with Cirque Series and a new creative lane that complements, rather than replaces, racing.There's plenty of forward look, too: Western States is back on Coree's calendar, with Moab 240 and Cape Town in the mix, plus a sharp take on trail running's Olympic prospects through sub-ultra formats. It's a conversation for athletes, fans, and industry folks who care about performance, credibility, and the future of the sport. If this resonated, subscribe, share with a friend, and leave a review—then tell us what you'd fix first: contracts, prize money, or social expectations?Follow Coree on IG - @coreewolteringFollow James on IG - @jameslauriello Follow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_pod Use code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com!

Send us a textWhat happens when a Texas kid with marathon roots drops 60 pounds, moves across continents to mentor young athletes in Kenya, and then turns that purpose into a season-long charge through the Cirque Series? We unpack the full story with McKennon Woltman—complete with chai-fueled mornings, singletrack at altitude, and the lessons that only service and steep terrain can teach.We start with a family tradition of marathoning and the health scare that pushed him to act. That path led to Germany, then into the heart of Kenya's running culture, where daily life is simple, meals are consistent, and training is built on red roads and forest trails around Iten and Kaptegat. McKennan opens up about the ethics of sport—doping access, predatory management, and the realities of poverty—then explains how holistic mentorship (mind, body, spirit) helps athletes chase big dreams without losing themselves. The result is a rare, grounded view of what high performance looks like when anchored in integrity.Then we head stateside, where he maps that foundation onto the Cirque Series: short, steep, technical races that demand weekly readiness and tactical restraint. He breaks down how he learned to race smart—saving legs for the downhill, choosing the right shoes for mixed terrain, and making decisive moves at Targhee's off-trail descents. We also talk culture: why short mountain races are a perfect development path, and how American trail running can build a louder fan experience with lift-access cheering zones, cowbells on ridgelines, and community stoke that rivals Europe.Looking ahead, McKennan shares plans to focus on sub-ultra events in the UTMB ecosystem, race Broken Arrow, and sharpen road speed with a spring marathon as a step toward the 2028 U.S. Olympic Trials standard. If you care about mountain running, athlete development, or simply want to feel the energy of someone who races hard and gives more back, this one hits home.Enjoyed this conversation? Follow the show, share with a trail friend, and leave a rating and review. And if you're watching on YouTube, smash subscribe so more runners can find it.Follow McKennon on IG - @mckennonwoltmanFollow James on IG - @jameslauriello Follow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_pod Use code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com!

Send us a textWhat happens when a mountain athlete chooses meaning over metrics? We sit down with ski mountaineer and mountain runner Michael Wirth for a rare, candid conversation about privacy, purpose, and why FKTs feel more honest than podiums. Michael traces his path from the Roaring Fork Valley to a brief stint in consulting, then into a life shaped by long tours, sketchy weather windows, and the strange pressure of being recognized for what you do in quiet places.We dive into the gritty details of his November push on the Tonto Traverse—training alongside David, the tendon flare-up that arrived five days out, the decision to keep moving until it didn't make sense, and the bittersweet satisfaction of seeing a partner set the record. Michael explains why FKTs pull him more than racing: logistics and judgment matter, terrain asks real questions, and the reward lives in moving across a landscape with speed and care. He also opens up about social media's tradeoffs—how YouTube can tell richer stories than Instagram, why follower counts too often shape contracts, and how protecting your relationship with the mountains sometimes means posting less.From scouting the North Cascades High Route and a scary black bear encounter to training blocks built on threshold, VO2 efforts, and the occasional treadmill sufferfest, Michael's outlook is equal parts frank and thoughtful. He's eyeing future ski objectives, possibly a renewed push on the High Route with friends, and a career path that might include climate tech or even farming—all while keeping the flame for big, meaningful days outside. If you care about the soul of mountain sport, the pull of place, and the balance between craft and commerce, this one hits home.If the conversation resonates, follow the show, share it with a friend, and leave a quick review. It helps more curious listeners find these stories and keeps the stoke going.Follow Michael on IG - @michaelcwirthFollow Michael on Youtube - @michaelcwirthFollow James on IG - @jameslauriello Follow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_pod Use code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com!

Send us a textThe view from a razorback ridge can change your life—and your training. We invited Robin Vieira Brower, one of the few American women racing the Skyrunner World Series, to unpack how she built a season across Austria and Ireland, what “sea to sky” truly demands, and why skyrunning needs a bigger footprint in the U.S. Robin shares a refreshingly candid path from college soccer to technical mountain running, the exact workouts that paid off on steep grades, and the mindset shift required when weather cancels races the day before the start.We dig into the nuts and bolts—heart rate based training, base-building through winter, and the intervals that translate directly to efficient climbing and controlled descending. Robin also opens up about running a creative studio while racing internationally, turning storytelling into a strength instead of a distraction. We compare skyrunning with Golden Trail and UTMB, talk through ISF standards that protect the sport's identity, and spotlight the best U.S. gateways for “real sky” skills: Cirque Series venues, The Rut, Alyeska, and the Wasatch. Expect practical insights on gear, travel, and course selection, plus honest talk about representation and how to support more women on technical terrain.If you've wondered how to break into skyrunning—or just want to understand why switchbacks are sometimes optional in Europe—this conversation delivers a clear map and plenty of motivation. Tap play, then tell us which course you'd race first. If you're enjoying the show, follow Robin at @mindfullyrobin, subscribe, and leave a quick review to help more mountain athletes find us.Follow Robin on IG - @mindfullyrobinContact Robin on her website - mindfullyrobin.comFollow James on IG - @jameslauriello Follow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_pod Use code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com!

Send us a textA Tahoe childhood can shape an athlete for life—and Noah McMahan proves it. At 19, he's a Gonzaga steeplechaser who keeps his easy runs on dirt, wins Broken Arrow 11K off a Hayward Field PR, and carries hard-earned lessons from the World Mountain Running Championships in Spain. We talk about the quiet confidence it takes to recover from injuries, the patience to build fitness through a long collegiate season, and the racecraft to navigate tight European singletrack when the start line explodes.We dig into what it means to balance D1 expectations with trail ambitions: coach buy-in, smart training blocks, and the reality of fitting a “fourth season” into a college calendar. Noah opens up about recruitment from a small Nevada school, why team culture sold him on Gonzaga, and how a kinesiology major helps him stay healthy. He breaks down the Worlds course—road surge, singletrack congestion, switchback duels—and the two changes he'd make next time: more hill-specific work and earlier positioning to avoid bottlenecks.Gear talk includes Nike Ultrafly on race day, a rotation that's open to Saucony for daily miles, and curiosity about adding poles for steeper 23K goals. We share inspiration from Max King, Kilian Jornet, Jim Walmsley, Ruth Croft, and the next wave of hybrid athletes bridging track, road, and mountain disciplines. If you're a young runner considering a future in trail running—or a fan who loves the sport's evolving pathways—you'll hear a clear blueprint for turning college structure into a sustainable pro trajectory.If this story resonates, follow the show, share it with a teammate, and leave a quick review on your favorite app. Your support helps us bring more emerging voices and big trail dreams to the mic.Follow Noah on IG - @noah_mcmahan_Follow James on IG - @jameslauriello Follow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_pod Use code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com!

Send us a textWhat happens when a Nordic engine meets Wasatch steeps and a taste for big objectives? We sit down with pro skier and trail runner Mali Noyes to trace the throughline from Sun Valley ski kid to freeride competitor to ultra podium threat, and the conversation is packed with sharp takeaways you can use right away.Mali unpacks the modern mountain athlete's toolkit: how backcountry ski touring builds unmatched muscular endurance, why Speedgoat rewards poles and patience at altitude, and how pacing transforms “survival” into a strong finish. We go inside freeride fundamentals—venue scouting, judging criteria, and the fast-and-fluid style that actually scores—then zoom out to the career reality where athletes must be storytellers, producers, and community builders. Mali shares how she approaches YouTube with authenticity over polish, using simple tools to bring people into the raw, decision-heavy world of snow, lines, and risk.We dig into UTMB ambitions, comparing CCC's runnable rhythm with the power-hike nature of Speedgoat, and why the Wasatch is a near-perfect training ground for European profiles. Mali is candid about nerve pain and the grind of messy injuries, emphasizing critical PT, hip and core rebuilding, and data that supports intuition—heart rate, lactate, HRV, and truly easy recovery days. The capstone is The Shooting Gallery: skiing all 93 steep Wasatch lines in 47 days. It's a masterclass in logistics, avalanche judgment, partner management, and mental endurance, stacking over 300,000 feet of vert while staying sharp enough to make clean choices day after day.If you care about mountain performance, women's representation in snowsports, or the craft of turning adventures into stories that matter, this one will stick with you. Subscribe, share this episode with a training partner, and leave a quick review to help more mountain athletes find the show.Follow Mali on IG - @malinoyesFollow Mali's Adventures on Youtube ! - @MaliNoyesFollow James on IG - @jameslauriello Follow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_pod Use code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com!

Send us a textThe road from an Okinawan family dojo to the rocky spine of the Northeast isn't as long as it looks. Meet trail runner and former Muay Thai athlete Niko Teller, a blue-collar UPS driver who turns daily mileage, discipline, and gritty terrain into real speed. We dig into how martial arts forged his mindset, why hips are the hidden engine for climbing and descending, and how he built technical downhill confidence on the Appalachian Trail, in the Catskills, and across the White Mountains.We break down the Northeast short-trail scene—from Chocorua to the Baldface Scramble—and why these 20 to 30K courses deliver as much vert and skill demand as some ultras. Nico explains how he trains when the “mountains” are 400 feet high, stacking hill repeats, AT long runs, and gravel bike cross-training to stay durable. Then we go deep on his JFK 50 game plan: smooth execution on the AT, a mid-race shoe swap into road foam, and a 6:30–6:40 towpath pace target backed by a simple fueling strategy of 90 grams of carbs per hour with Neversecond gels and mostly water in cool temps.We also unpack the hard lessons from Run Rabbit Run 100 in Steamboat—cold, hail, and a cranky Achilles—and how finishing on a tough day built more confidence than any PR. Niko shares why jiu-jitsu keeps him humble, how coaching with Fastquatch helps working athletes find balance, and what's next: Black Canyon 100K speed, a Cocodona waitlist gamble, and winter goals on the track with a sharper mile and 5K.If you love Northeast trail running, JFK 50 strategy, technical downhill tips, or blue-collar training that actually fits a busy life, this conversation will feel like a map you can use tomorrow. Subscribe, drop a review, and share with a friend who's eyeing a fast towpath split or their first White Mountain scramble.Follow Niko on IG - @nikolassuaveFollow James on IG - @jameslauriello Follow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_pod Use code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com!

Send us a textA road racer with big engine and bigger grit, Makena Morley decided to test the mountains—and then turned a curious experiment into a statement season. We go all the way back to Maui and Montana, through a high-pressure collegiate career at Colorado, and into the realities of turning pro during Covid. Then the pivot: why ASICS' support opened the door to trails, how Bozeman and Montana State became her training backbone, and what it took to blend threshold speed with the chaos of technical terrain.Makena breaks down the moment Kodiak nearly unraveled—a missed turn, minutes lost, and a mental reset from chasing time to hunting the win. She explains how trail pacing lives in effort, not pace; how VKs mimic the misery of a 5K at altitude; and why nutrition and hydration need to be tighter once you're racing beyond marathon duration. We talk SIS gels, Skratch Superfuel, cramp control, and keeping heart rate near low threshold to ride the up-down rhythm without detonating. She also shares self-coaching insights: writing four-month blocks, moving workouts when the body says no, and using heart rate as a guardrail rather than a governor.Looking forward, we map a smart, exciting calendar: half marathons to sharpen, runnable 50Ks like Canyons to leverage road speed, and a technical progression toward OCC in Chamonix. Golden Trail and Cirque Series sit on the radar as skill-building playgrounds, tempered by timing and travel. The theme running through it all is joy—how switching surfaces revived hunger, built durability, and made big goals feel possible again.If this story fires you up, hit follow, share the episode with a friend who needs a nudge to try something new, and leave a quick review so more athletes can find the show.Follow Makena on IG - @makena_morleyCheck out Ultimate Direction !Use code steepstuffpod for 25% off ultimatedirection.comDisclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Follow James on IG - @jameslauriello Follow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_pod Use code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com!

Send us a textThe plan was simple: go test the 100K waters. The reality was a masterclass in pacing, hydration, and what happens when marathon instincts meet an eight-hour mountain day. Chad Hall brings candor and clarity to his Kodiak debrief—why he went out hard, where the wheels came loose around Snow Summit, and how he'll rebuild for another shot. From there, we widen the lens: short trail versus ultras, why 50K deserves more respect in the U.S., and how cycling's strength engine can transform uphill running without sacrificing leg speed on descents.We trade notes on altitude strategy for Pikes Peak, the balance between sea-level power and high-elevation adaptation, and practical ways to integrate strength—heavy lifts, bike blocks, or ski mountaineering—when schemo isn't an option. Chad traces his arc from triathlon to domestic elite cycling to trails, and explains how coaching, long mountain days, and flat-speed workouts all fit inside a program designed to resist fatigue and stay smooth on technical terrain.Then we go deeper. We push on the professionalization of trail running, UTMB-style event culture, and the line between authentic partnership and hollow consumerism. Chad is honest about sponsorship: only promote what you'd buy, center the mountains, and protect the community's soul. We also challenge the hype cycles of social media and the attention economy, where presentation can outrun performance and algorithms shrink our view of the world. Finally, we wrestle with AI and work—what jobs mean, where meaning comes from, and how a conscious buyer base can reshape the outdoor industry for the better.If you enjoy conversations that braid training insights with bigger questions about culture and purpose, this one will stick. Follow Chad on Instagram at @chadoflife, hit play, and then tell us: are you team short trail, team ultra, or somewhere in between? Subscribe, share with a friend, and leave a review to help more curious runners find the show.Follow Chad on IG - @chadoflifeFollow James on IG - @jameslauriello Follow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_pod Use code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com!

Send us a textA broken back, a fractured knee, and nearly a year off running—then podiums at Pikes Peak Ascent, Kodiak, and Moab. That's the arc Alicia Vargo takes us through, sharing how a brutal dog attack in 2024 unraveled her season and how skate skiing, patience, and stubborn belief stitched it back together. We start with her fresh Moab Trail Half podium and the course's split personality—slickrock step-ups, sandy slogs, and off-road pavement—before moving into the training mindset that keeps her sharp late in the year.From there, we head home to Breckenridge. Alicia talks altitude as the quiet performance lever, the surprising strength of the local community, and why winter skimo and skate skiing are the perfect mix to preserve fitness without the pounding. Then we go deep on her recovery: delayed diagnoses, crutches, months of uncertainty, and the tentative first races at Broken Arrow that proved her body could hold. She opens up about Sierre-Zinal's balcony trail, heat shock, and the crowded chaos of European starts where elbows fly and gels get trampled.We zoom out to the sport's big questions. Should women have separate starts or days? Alicia weighs the trade-offs—clear competition and spotlight versus thin fields and lost atmosphere. She revisits the early Nike Trail years, shifting to Hoka, and why the sport once nudged athletes toward ultras due to a lack of short trail opportunities. Now, with Golden Trail, Broken Arrow, and the Rut, short trail finally looks like the welcoming on-ramp for D1 talent and the most TV-ready version of mountain running.We also talk storytelling. What Coca-Dona got right with long-form livestreams. Why commentators who race—like Dani Moreno—can translate chaos into context. And why Alicia's skeptical about the Olympics reshaping trail into a TV-friendly shadow of itself, much like skimo's shift. Through it all, her message is grounded and energizing: protect the mountain identity, invest in women's race formats, tell better stories, and give athletes the room to come back strong.If this conversation hits, follow and share. Subscribe on YouTube for 4K episodes, drop a rating on Apple or Spotify, and tell a friend who loves steep stuff and strong comebacks.Follow Alicia on IG - @aliciavargoFollow James on IG - @jameslauriello Follow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_pod Use code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com!

Send us a textThe sport we love is growing up, and that's a good thing—if we build it right. I'm joined by athlete and agent Nick Cornell of Trailhead Athlete Management to dig into what “professional” actually looks like in trail running: livable contracts, smarter bonuses, real anti-doping, and a path that lets athletes focus on performance without losing the grassroots soul that makes this community special.Nick shares how he went from thru-hiking the Triple Crown to winning Montana 50Ks and managing athletes who train 20 hours a week while juggling logistics, content, deliverables, and travel. We unpack what brands want beyond results—genuine people with presence—and why short trail deserves more investment alongside ultras. We also talk hard numbers: why most pros still sit in the low five figures, how a league minimum could change that, and where healthcare and PT stipends fit in. If you've wondered whether rumors of huge salaries are real, or how to negotiate your first deal, Nick gives grounded, practical insight.We go deep on legitimacy and the World Mountain and Trail Championships—federations offering team camps and big bonuses, the realities of kit rules, and why national team results should be bonused just like track. From out-of-competition testing to non-endemic sponsors—cars, banks, tourism boards, food brands—we explore the funding models that could unlock full-time careers without sidelining local races. The takeaway is hopeful: keep the watermelon at aid stations and the big stages on the calendar. With smarter structure, everyone wins.If this conversation helped you think differently about the future of trail running, tap follow, share it with a friend, and leave a quick rating or review. Your support helps us bring more candid, useful conversations to the community.Follow Nick on IG - @nickcornell.runFollow Trailhead Athlete Mgmt on IG - @trailheadathletemgmtReach out to Trailhead Athlete Mgmt for Representation - Get in TouchFollow James on IG - @jameslauriello Follow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_pod Use code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com!

Send us a textA brand doesn't become real the day the website goes live—it becomes real the day someone beats it up on a mountain and still reaches for it the next morning. That's the heart of our conversation with Dust founder Zach Colby, who walked away from politics to build a running brand rooted in the Mountain West: trails, dirt, big days, and gear that doesn't need babysitting.We trace the idea back to Boulder, where Zach saw a clear gap. The urban-run-club look had its champions, but the West's mix of gravel, alpine, and singletrack culture felt underserved. Dust answers with simple, durable pieces that carry a Western soul—led by the mechanic shirt, a breathable button-down designed to race, ride, and recover. Zach breaks down the less glamorous side too: hunting for the right factory, negotiating MOQs, iterating fabric weights across time zones, and learning that a great sample is earned, not ordered.From there, we get into launch mechanics and marketing without the fluff. Boxes stacked in an apartment, a Shopify backend, word-of-mouth over ads, and photography that actually reflects how people move outside. We talk about the Dust Bus—a retired sheriff's van now turned rolling pop-up—and why in-person events, beer miles, and race weekends matter more than impressions. Zach also shares what's next: a women's line with a dedicated designer, tech-forward shorts and tights, and an interest in a lightweight, no-nonsense running belt that disappears on the run.If you care about trail running, niche outdoor brands, or the craft behind gear that holds up mile after mile, this one will hit. Tap play, then tell us what piece you wish more brands would build. And if you're vibing with the show, subscribe, share with a trail friend, and leave a quick review—it helps more runners find us.Follow Dust on IG -  @weardustShop the Dust Website - @weardustCheck out the Mechanic Shirt - Mechanic ShirtFollow James on IG - @jameslauriello Follow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_pod Use code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com!

Send us a textA sharpening workout at 10,000 feet. A sudden stab in the chest. Vision slipping. Hours later, Abby Locke learned her right lung had collapsed—and that was only the beginning. Across one summer she weathered three collapses, seven chest tubes, helicopter flights, and two surgeries, then found her way back to 50-mile weeks with a new definition of strength.We talk through the full arc with honesty and grit: the ER chaos, hospital routines, and why “take it easy” is dangerous advice for driven athletes. Abby details the shift from vague rest to a precise, metrics-based return—heart rate caps, minutes-based progressions, and a deliberate habit of undershooting. We dig into the identity quake that comes when sport is stripped away, and how watercolor, friendship, and a gentler mindset helped her rebuild. She shares practical wisdom on training by feel, listening for pain signals, and balancing risk without living in fear.We also explore what's next: genetic testing, altitude questions, and a smart path toward longer trail races where intensity spikes are fewer. Abby opens up about coaching, sub-ultra roots, and why the northeast's technical trails deserve more love. The takeaway is bigger than running: gratitude changes performance, diversified meaning sustains motivation, and a broader life makes you braver on race day.If this story resonates, tap follow, share it with a friend who needs perspective, and leave a quick review so more runners can find conversations like this.Follow Abby on IG - @abigaildlockFollow Abby on Substack - @adlockReach out to Abby for coaching & Nutrition Follow James on IG - @jameslauriello Follow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_pod Use code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com!

Send us a textReady to stop signing up for everything and start building a season that actually fits your life? We sit down with CTS coach Addison Smith to design a smarter year from the ground up: choosing an A race that truly motivates you, mapping B and C races that build skill without burnout, and matching training blocks to your goal's specific demands. Whether you're eyeing a first 50K or sharpening for a 100-mile bid, this conversation turns vague intentions into a practical plan.We break down the three-phase progression that drives long-term growth—learning to train, learning to race, and learning to win—and show how each stage shapes your calendar. Addison explains how to dial intensity by race duration and athlete level, why mid-packers often race best with more zone two than they think, and how to layer in threshold and marathon-effort work at the right time. We also get real about volume and recovery: minimum viable hours for 50K, 100K, and 100 mile, the risk of copying pro training, and how to avoid the all-in gambles that lead to burnout.Fueling myths get a major reality check. That 100 to 120 grams of carbs per hour? It only works if your pace and gut training support it. Most runners succeed at 60 to 90 grams per hour with fewer GI blow-ups. We walk through a simple framework to personalize hydration with a one-time sodium sweat test and easy at-home sweat rate tests, so your plan adapts from cold starts to hot, exposed climbs. Plus, actionable race routines, post-race debriefs, and candid insights from crewing at Javelina help you execute calmly when it counts.If lotteries didn't go your way—or life's time budget got tight—you'll hear how to pivot without losing momentum. Subscribe for more coaching-focused episodes, share this with a training partner who's planning their season, and leave a quick review so we know which topics to dig into next. Your next PR starts with a better plan—let's build it together.Work with Addison, CTS Coach  - @addisonsmithFollow Addison on IG - @addison_smith16Follow James on IG - @jameslauriello Follow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_pod Use code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com!

Send us a textA week after tackling a steep Canadian classic, two-time Leadville champion Adrian Macdonald joins us to chart a season that nearly went off the rails—and how he brought it back. After Western States left him drained and “half-sick,” bloodwork confirmed anemia. Adrian pressed pause on workouts, added iron, and rebuilt with patience. That decision reshaped his plans: fewer hero efforts, more deliberate steps. Now he's heading to Ultra‑Trail Cape Town's 100 miler to practice night pacing, big vert management, and problem‑solving—key skills he wants dialed before returning to UTMB.We trace Adrian's path from Massachusetts soccer and college track to Boston road marathons and, finally, Colorado trails. Winning Leadville unlocked travel, sponsorship, and a renewed sense of racing—not just time‑trials—but it also brought pressure and a few humbling lessons. He learned race specificity the hard way: the same engine that crushes runnable high altitude doesn't guarantee success on technical, hour‑long burners. His solution is pragmatic and refreshing. Choose one major ultra a year, sometimes two. Add short, sub‑ultra mountain races as tune‑ups to sharpen nerves, descents, and pacing without the deep fatigue of an ultra. Mix in East Coast staples like Mount Washington for nostalgia and family time, and lean on a supportive Fort Collins crew—mentors like Nick Clark and training partners who keep the work honest.We also go inside the On Running ecosystem, where rapid gear innovation and a cross‑discipline team culture keep Adrian inspired. From plated trail shoes to polished kits, he's part of a brand sprinting forward while still celebrating the messy, human side of ultras. If you've wondered how to rebuild after a rough race, plan a smarter season, or pick courses that actually fit your strengths, this is your blueprint. Enjoy the story, steal the strategies, and tell us what big race you're targeting next. If this conversation resonates, follow the show, leave a quick review, and share it with a friend who loves big climbs and bigger comebacks.Follow Adrian on IG - @macdonaldadrianFollow Adrian on Youtube - @adrianmacdonaldContact Adrian - @adrian.runFollow James on IG - @jameslauriello Follow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_pod Use code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com!

Send us a textA tailbone crash on a triangle rock. A season of strange falls and late-race cramping. And then a decision to tear it all down and rebuild. We sit with Dan Curts to map the truth behind his 2025 campaign, from a promising start at Canyons to a frustrating run through Iger, ETC, and Plitz Alpin Glacier. The thread is unglamorous and vital: when the posterior chain shuts down, quads overwork, climbing implodes, and even the best descenders can't press when it matters.Dan walks us through a hard reset with coach Jack Kenzel—starting with a track-based drift test to lock in real aerobic limits, adding heavy strength to hit a baseline of force, and then pressing the volume button with sustained climbs, daily vert, and technical footwork. We dig into why he believes cramping is a muscular endurance problem more than a bottle problem, how heart rate caps keep ego in check, and why Northeast granite and mud might prep athletes better for Europe than endless sunshine ever will.We also zoom out. Short trail is growing, but it needs stars, live coverage, and sharper storytelling. Dan shares what Europe gets right—stacked fields, iconic venues, and snackable highlight reels—and how U.S. races can catch up with consistent live streams, honest athlete recaps, and creative embeds that show how fast “runnable” really looks. Gear matters too: lighter, grippier shoes like the Cascadia Elite change what's sustainable at speed on wet rock and alpine grass, expanding both safety and excitement.If you care about subultra trail, this is the blueprint: build durability, race smart, tell the story well, and make it easy to watch. Hit play, then tell us—what race do you want live-streamed next? And if you're new here, follow, share, and drop a quick review so more runners can find the show.Follow Dan on IG - @dancurtsFollow James on IG - @jameslauriello Follow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_pod Use code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com!

Send us a textA short trail host, a 214-mile finish, and a brutally honest look at what it really takes to cross a 200-mile line with your head still on straight. Franc returns fresh off the Mammoth 200 to unpack the race that started as a joke and turned into a test of logistics, mindset, and pain tolerance. We talk about the fast first day that had him mixing it with the leaders, the sandy fire roads that shredded his feet, and the moment—somewhere around mile 114—when he had to find a real why or walk off the course.We go deep on the parts most recaps skip. How do you structure sleep so you stop dozing while walking? What does smart foot care actually look like under constant sand—washing, lube, taping, sock swaps—and how fast does neglect ruin a great engine? Why does some pain feel worse when you walk than when you jog? Franc shares what worked in his fueling (steady gels and real food, zero stomach drama), what didn't (delayed foot fixes), and why crew can make or break a second night. We also zoom out to the front of the race: how Jimmy Elam proved 200s can be fast and how Rachel Enterkin's relentless push hints at a new era for the distance.Training takeaways are clear and actionable: build volume patiently, treat heavy strength work as a durability cornerstone, and test your sleep and foot systems long before race week. We touch tough edges too—microdosing debates, WADA rules, appetite suppression risks, and the boundaries of sobriety—without glamorizing shortcuts. If you're eyeing Sedona 125, Cocodona, or any race where days blur and aid stations feel like islands, this conversation gives you a roadmap and a reality check.If this resonated, follow the show, share it with a trail friend, and leave a quick review so more runners can find it. Your support helps us bring on athletes who tell the whole story—the messy parts, the smart choices, and the moments that change how we race.Follow Francesco on IG - @Franc.SunseriFollow Run.SL.UT on IG - @run.sl.utFollow Chasing Trail on Youtube - @Chasing TrailFollow Chasing Trail on Spotify - @ Chasing Trail Follow Chasing Trail on Apple -  @Chasing TrailFollow James on IG - @jameslauriello Follow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_pod Use code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com!

Send us a textA month after Canfranc, the dust has settled but the stories still sting—sometimes literally. We sat down with Team USA leaders Paul Kirsch and Tom Hooper to unpack a world championship defined by raw terrain, tight logistics, and athletes who found another gear when it mattered most. If you watched the medals, you saw the headlines. If you listen here, you'll hear the blueprint.We start where results are made: planning. Paul and Tom pull back the curtain on selection debates, athlete travel, hotel puzzles, kit approvals, and an aid station operation designed for seconds, not comfort. Imagine three staff crewing a dozen athletes off a single table while frost slicks the rocks, ground wasps erupt near the trail, and two bulls jog past a sunrise checkpoint. That's the reality of world-level trail—messy, improvised, and relentlessly precise.From there we dig into racing. The long and short trail routes tilted skyward and technical, but champions like Jim Walmsley and Katie Schide still rose, proving that range and resilience travel across terrain. Hillary Gerardi stepped from VK to 80K to keep the team whole. Short trail newcomers like Jane and Ruby showed composure well beyond their caps. The vertical and classic squads highlighted rising stars—Anna Gibson, Cam Smith—and real team tactics, with athletes working together late to lock in points, cross-country style. Meanwhile, U20 athletes arrived with true mountain chops, signaling a pipeline ready to meet a deeper, more global field that now includes full squads from Uganda and Kenya and breakthrough team medals from nations like Canada.We also talk about the gap that still holds the sport back: brand buy-in. Many athletes earn no bonuses for worlds and must choose between country and paycheck. With more sponsor support—following models we already see in track and the Olympics—world championships could become the premier stage they deserve to be. South Africa is next, and with the right mix of citizen races, media, and partners, the scene could match the spectacle.Hit play for a candid, inside look at how Team USA turned chaos into podiums and why the future of mountain and trail running has never looked brighter. If this conversation resonates, subscribe, share with a friend, and leave a quick review to help more fans find the show.Follow Paul Kirsch on IG - @pkrunswithdogsFollow Tom Hooper on IG - @tomhooper603Follow Six03 Endurance on IG - @six03enduranceCheck out Six03 Races - @six03enduranceFollow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! Follow James on IG - @jameslauriello Follow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_pod Use code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com!

Send us a textWhat if you didn't grow up on a track and still became a force on steep, thin-air courses? We sit down with Colorado Springs native Amanda Koslosky to trace a candid, practical path from soccer fields to summit podiums—top ten at the Pikes Peak Ascent, podiums at Telluride Mountain Run and Bar Trail—and the bold decision to go part-time at work to chase what's possible.Amanda opens up about the moment a Golden Trail–stacked Ascent proved her ceiling was higher than she thought, and why a coach, community, and course-first strategy changed everything. We unpack the mental game—pre-race nerves, stacking confidence with small wins, and holding a belief that borders on audacious. Then we get tactical: altitude prep with 3-2-1 uphill sessions, Rampart Reservoir loops, and smart long runs that build climbing economy without frying the legs. With Moab ahead, her training pivots to speed—three-minute reps near six-minute pace, downhill economy, and the quad conditioning needed to finish fast.Recovery and longevity take center stage. Amanda shares how she replaced “smaller is better” with fuel-first thinking—pairing protein and carbs post-run, dialing hydration, and protecting easy days. Nightly rolling, consistent stretching, and monthly massage keep the system absorbing work. TRX strength provides the chassis: core stability, single-leg control, and full-body resilience that pays off on steep climbs and technical descents. We also cover race-day strategy on the Ascent's W's, when to sit on a steady runner, and how to time the move past A-Frame.If you're chasing a sub-three at altitude, eyeing Broken Arrow, or wondering whether your fastest years can still be ahead, Amanda's story offers a blueprint: train for the course you'll race, treat recovery like a pillar, and let community sharpen your edge. Follow Amanda at run_cos_run, then hit play and take notes for your next build. Enjoy the conversation, and if it helps your long run, subscribe, share, and leave a quick review to help others find the show.Follow Amanda on IG - @run_kos_runFollow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! Follow James on IG - @jameslauriello Follow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_pod Use code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com!

Send us a textTen hours on the edge, a live stream watched by hundreds of thousands, and a second-place finish that announced David Sinclair to the world stage. We unpack how an injury scare turned into a smarter build, why he chose CCC over OCC, and the exact training and fueling choices that helped him lead for hours, survive the low points, and find the grit to hold the podium in Chamonix.David takes us inside the chaos at Worlds—from canceled flights to a sky-high vert profile—and what that taught him about specificity and course targeting. Then we go deep on the nuts and bolts: threshold-focused workouts drawn from his ski background, a summer of cross-training and uphill-only running, and the course recon that let him pace with intent. We break down his fueling strategy in plain terms—80 to 100 grams of carbs per hour, flavor fatigue management, and why separating carbs, fluids, and electrolytes can save your stomach late. With Western States on the horizon, he shares a practical heat plan: steady sauna work, relentless ice at every aid, and simple systems that keep core temperature down without overcomplicating race day.We also talk shoes and gear, including Craft prototypes that balance cushioning with stability on runnable terrain, and why East Coast training—rolling dirt roads, rooty steeps, variable weather—can build world-class durability without altitude. David's philosophy is refreshingly clear: keep it fun, stay flexible, and double down on the basics that actually move the needle. If you're mapping your next build or just love a front-row view of a breakthrough season, this conversation is a masterclass in turning setbacks into fuel.If this episode adds value to your training, follow the show, share it with a friend, and leave a quick rating or review. Your support helps us bring on more voices you'll want to learn from.Follow David on IG - @david.a.sinclair.92Follow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textThe race began before the gun—shoulder to shoulder, 12 rows deep, with a call-up protocol that flipped expectations and turned the opening meters into a high-stakes fight for position. From a fast frontage road into stairs and tight singletrack, Tyler McCandless had to manage chaos without panic: protect effort, find clean lines, and pass only when it counted. What followed was a masterclass in patience and presence—steady gains through the forest, a fierce late surge on a 30% wall to the summit, and a finish that helped Team USA lock down bronze at the World Mountain Running Championships in Confranc.We get into the texture of Worlds that you can't see on a results sheet: the camaraderie of sharing meals with athletes you'd never usually race alongside, the electricity of cheering other disciplines all week, and the way team identity changes how you suffer. Tyler breaks down the travel and course recon with Joe Gray, the jet lag fix that worked, and the quiet confidence that came from previewing key sections. We also revisit Broken Arrow VK—how a last-minute course change erased the runnable grind he wanted, why he still qualified under pressure, and what it feels like to crest steep singletrack with David Sinclair closing fast.There's gear talk too—Nike's radical cooling long sleeve, why it's more than a fashion statement, and how innovation is finally meeting trail reality. Then we look ahead: a winter marathon bid to punch a fifth Olympic Trials ticket (sub-2:16), plus a summer slate that fits Tyler's engine—Sierre-Zinal, Pikes Peak Ascent, and select Golden Trail races. And we make the case for a dedicated U.S. uphill series to cultivate specialists, build team culture, and grow the fan base with short, watchable vertical races.If you enjoy stories of resilience, smart racing on steep ground, and the power of team over self, you'll want to queue this one up. Hit follow, share it with a trail friend, and leave a quick review—what part of Tyler's strategy would you try on your next climb?Follow Tyler on IG - @tracktyFollow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textGolden Trail World Series Final Preview with Robert Prosser Follow Robert Prosser on Substack - @robrunsround (substack.com/@robrunsround)Follow Robert Prosser on Instagram - @robrunsroundFollow James Lauriello on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textA fall storm, ankle‑deep snow, and a west wind tearing across the Sawatch set the stage—then David Hedges took the Nolans 14 record back by roughly ten minutes. We unpack how it happened, from the early confidence on Antero to a near-collapse between Harvard and Oxford, a frozen night saved by borrowed layers and hot gels, and a final, ruthless push off Massive that flipped the math with miles to spare. The story isn't just splits; it's style, stewardship, and what local fluency really looks like when the terrain turns feral.We dig into route decisions like choosing the Columbia–Harvard traverse when conditions allow, why Princeton is the true make‑or‑break, and how Pine Creek's flooded willows taxed time and patience. David contrasts a lean, self‑navigated approach with a big‑budget model, raising thoughtful questions about GPX dependency, pacers, and what FKTs are rewarding now. He also walks through working directly with the Leadville district ranger during the La Plata closure—a quiet example of respecting the place you move through fast.Looking ahead, David shares a sharp slate of objectives that fit his engine: the Tonto Trail, the La Sal Traverse, and SCAR in the Smokies. Then comes the bold target—Aconcagua's standard route FKT—where altitude physiology, long uphill intervals, and precise downhill pacing become the whole game. If you love FKTs, mountain strategy, and honest talk about what it takes to move fast when conditions say no, this one's a feast.If this conversation resonated, follow David on Instagram at D_hedges_, share the episode with a friend who geeks out on routes and style, and leave a quick review so more mountain nerds can find the show. Got thoughts on purity vs pace on Nolans? Drop us a note and join the debate.Follow David on IG - @dhedges_Follow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textStart in city gravel, end on a knife-edge ridge. That's the arc of Kyle Richardson's 1,300-mile Northeast Summits Tour—fifteen days, 84,000 feet, and six peaks stitched together by a bivy, a bike, and a refusal to overplan. We talk about why he treats endurance like an art form, how loosening timelines kept motivation high, and what it means to curate routes that flow from Catskill roots to Adirondack slabs, across the Whites, and onto Katahdin's cathedral spine.We get tactical without killing the magic. Kyle breaks down mapping with Gaia GPS, weaving the Empire State Trail, Eastern Divide, and local connectors, plus the on-the-fly decisions that save you from interstates and dead ends. He shares stealth bivvy habits, smart resupply strategy in the Maine woods, and the gear that actually works: hydrophobic, big-lug trail shoes that drain fast in boggy terrain and a tidy kit that looks presentable from diner to trailhead. We dig into recovery while moving daily, the mental cadence of silence vs. sound, and why his east coast takeaway is simple: technical, steep, and slept-on can be world-class.There's more beyond the Northeast. Kyle unpacks his Boulder–Steamboat ride for Moots' 40th anniversary—crossing divides, tagging Longs Peak, and dropping Rollins Pass—plus the South Platte Twirl, a two-night Colorado loop that blends singletrack, OHV roads, gravel, and quiet pavement. We revisit his pre-tour dawn linkup on Longs with Kilian Jornet and the lessons in communication, safety, and community that came with it. If you're hungry for routes that balance beauty, efficiency, and honest difficulty, this one's a map you can trust.If this conversation sparked ideas for your next ride or run, tap follow, leave a quick review, and share it with a friend who needs a nudge to plan less and move more.Follow Kyle on IG - @kylerichardsonFollow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textWhat if the best prep for a world-stage 50K isn't altitude at all—but rock, root, and relentless decision-making? That's the case Ben Robinson makes as we dive into his Grindstone 50K win, an OCC qualifier that doubled as redemption after a brutal DNF during a rabies vaccine saga the year before. From Pennsylvania's Roxylvania series to Alaska's Mount Marathon chaos, Ben maps a season where the Northeast's technical terrain becomes a training edge, not a compromise, and where joy beats pressure as a performance tool.We trace Ben's arc from Lock Haven long runs to short-trail evangelist, race director, and community builder. He breaks down what makes PA special—Heiner's culture, Boulder Beast's car-sized rocks, and Miller Mountain's steep, clean design—then gets specific about permitting, landowner trust, and why a cookout can be the most important gear choice of race day. We go deep on Mount Marathon strategy (cliffs vs roots), how to commit on snowfields and scree without blinking, and why downhill skill is often the true separator. He explains the switch from pro-contract pressure to free agency freedom, how self-coaching lets him fit training around a full-time job and board roles, and how rebuilding his why—love of the sport, service to others, growth through difficulty—made him faster.We also zoom out. Cirque Series growth in the Northeast? Good for the sport when courses stay honest. UTMB structure vs the Olympics? Keep the edges sharp and the terrain real. World Championships takeaways? Technical venues reveal depth; surprise performances are a feature, not a bug. Ben's near-term path points to OCC, a Javelina 100 experiment, and a Skyrunner Series return, plus bucket-list aims like Transvulcania and Western States—not as résumé items but as pilgrimages worth the work.If you're into East Coast grit, skyrunning energy, and practical insight on training, race directing, and building a life that can hold it all, this one's for you. Listen, share with a friend who loves steep stuff, and leave a quick rating or review to help more runners find the show.Follow Ben on IG - @ben_robinson88Follow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textWhat does it take to race at a world-class level when running itself isn't an option? We sit with Meikael Beaudoin-Rousseau to trace a brutal knee injury—down to bone—and the long, confusing road back: tendon thickening, scar pain that burns like hot iron, false starts, and a fitness base built on a handbike, arms-only swims, and an elliptical. Meika is candid about uncertainty and the daily choice to believe that today could be the first day of the comeback. Then we go deep on what that mindset looks like on the start line, from a med-tent finish at Pikes Peak to a podium at the Rut VK, and how trail racing rewards whole-body fitness even when mileage is scarce.We widen the lens to the life that makes the athlete. Meika's a tri-citizen (United States, France, Canada) who grew up in California splitting time between ocean and Sierra, now based in Boulder's running community. He talks gardening, ocean kayak fishing with whales and dolphins, and the grounding joy of catching and cooking his own food. We cover Stanford, discovering pro trail running through Megan and David Roche, and why sub-ultra distances still feel like home while 50K races like OCC/CCC pull him toward longer adventures that feel like missions.The future of the sport takes center stage: how sub-ultra is booming, why FKTs and personal mountain projects should live alongside race series, and the role of storytelling in building real fandom. Meika shares honest takes on sponsorship trends, Brooks' investment in sub-ultra, anti-doping beyond race-day tests, world championships versus UTMB, and the calendar coordination needed for true head-to-heads. Through it all, he stays focused on longevity and authenticity—keeping the community feel while growing prize money, media, and opportunity.If this conversation fires you up, tap follow, share it with a friend who needs a spark, and leave a quick rating and review to help more trail fans find the show. Then tell us: what should trail running fix first as it grows?Follow Meikael on IG - @mountain_man_meikFollow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textThe mountains of Spain are set to host an unprecedented gathering of mountain running talent as the World Mountain Running Championships descend upon Canfranc in the Pyrenees. This year's championship field is arguably the deepest ever assembled, with elite athletes from Kenya, Uganda, Italy, France, Spain, and the United States poised for an epic showdown across four grueling disciplines.The championship courses themselves present extraordinary challenges. The vertical race features nearly 1,000 meters of climbing over just 6.4 kilometers, while the short trail packs a staggering 12,000 feet of elevation gain into its 45-kilometer route. These aren't your typical mountain races – they feature sustained climbs and descents that dwarf what most American runners encounter domestically, with technical terrain that will test even the most seasoned mountain athletes.Kenya's Patrick Kipengeno seeks to make history with a third consecutive vertical championship, while Team USA fields perhaps its strongest contingent ever. Christian Allen makes his world championship debut with legitimate medal potential, Anna Gibson represents an exciting American talent who could surprise everyone, and the accomplished veterans Joseph Gray and Grayson Murphy each chase their third world titles in different disciplines. The Spanish team, led by technical descending maestro Manuel Morales, will enjoy home field advantage on courses that seem tailor-made for their skills.The team competition adds another compelling dimension, with nations scored based on their top performers in cross-country fashion. This creates strategic depth requirements beyond individual brilliance. After Kenya's dominant showing in 2023, teams like Italy, France, Spain, and the USA all bring squads capable of challenging for team medals.Whether you're tracking the established champions, the emerging talents, or the team battle, this championship weekend promises mountain running at its most thrilling and competitive level. Watch as athletes push their limits on Spain's demanding terrain in pursuit of world championship glory.Follow Robert Prosser on Substack - @robrunsround (substack.com/@robrunsround)Follow Robert Prosser on Instagram - @robrunsroundFollow James Lauriello on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textChristian Allen takes us deep into the rugged heart of the Pyrenees as he prepares to represent Team USA at the World Mountain Running Championships. The reigning US Mountain Running Champion opens up about the wild, technical trails of Canfrank that barely resemble paths at times—"They stuck flags into a bunch of rock that you're just hiking up. It's really steep."Fresh off his stunning victory at Broken Arrow, where he outpaced legends Kilian Jornet and Joe Gray, Allen reveals the strategic approach that's transformed his running. "I've been working with David Roach and he definitely focuses on running economy and turnover more than when I was coaching myself," he explains, crediting this shift for his breakthrough performances despite coming back from a six-week injury layoff earlier this season.Beyond the physical aspects of elite mountain running, Allen shares how his family and faith provide deeper meaning to his athletic pursuits. The father of two recounts touching moments of his children's involvement in his racing journey, including his son's disappointment after a fourth-place finish: "He was super mad and just in the worst mood ever... he said he hated the guy that won the race because he beat daddy." These personal insights reveal the human side of a champion who balances world-class athleticism with fatherhood and spiritual purpose.As Team USA looks toward potential gold at the World Championships, Allen's confidence is measured but unmistakable. "I think we can definitely podium. I don't see why not, and everyone in the back of their mind is shooting for gold." His preparation, mindset, and journey exemplify what it takes to compete at the highest level of mountain running while maintaining perspective on what truly matters most.Follow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textTaylor Stack's remarkable transformation from promising college runner to Team USA representative has been nothing short of extraordinary. In this wide-ranging conversation, Stack opens up about his breakthrough European racing season where he finished as top American and 12th overall in the Golden Trail Series, plus secured a podium at the brutally technical Pitz Alpine Glacier race.What makes Stack's journey particularly fascinating is his balanced approach to high-pressure competition. Rather than buckling under expectations, he emphasizes gratitude for these opportunities and focuses on embracing the experience—a mindset that has paradoxically enhanced his performances against the world's elite. His versatility across different course types—from cold, technical mountain races to scorching hot runnable routes—demonstrates a rare adaptability that's becoming his competitive signature.The conversation delves into Team USA's unprecedented depth heading into World Championships, with Stack describing how a genuine team atmosphere has developed under the leadership of veteran Cam Levins. This camaraderie was evident when Stack, Levins, and Mason Coppi worked together throughout the Broken Arrow race, showcasing the collaborative dynamic that could prove decisive against European dominance at Worlds. Stack also shares insights about his training base in Salida, Colorado, where immediate access to the highest peaks in the state has prepared him perfectly for international mountain competition.As Stack prepares to don the stars and stripes, there's tangible excitement about the mountain classic course at Worlds reportedly favoring American strengths with more runnable terrain. Could this be the year an American man finally breaks through for gold? With his rapid development and balanced perspective, Stack represents a new generation of American trail runners closing the gap with European competitors and redefining what's possible on the global stage.Have you experienced the transformative power of finding the right team and mindset in your own athletic pursuits?Follow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textNoah Williams has been on fire this summer. Fresh off a breakthrough performance at Sierre-Zinal where he clocked an impressive 2:45:10 as the third American finisher, he's now setting his sights on something even bigger: gold at the Trail Running World Championships in Spain.The conversation kicks off with Noah recounting his recent racing adventures, from Alaska's rugged terrain to the iconic trails of Switzerland. His Sierre-Zinal performance stands out as particularly special - finishing 27th in what many consider the most competitive mountain race globally. Noah breaks down how he managed to improve significantly from last year, particularly in maintaining energy through the runnable sections after the brutal climbs. "I think I just improved significantly in that stretch and I was actually catching runners rather than being caught," he explains, showing how his training is paying dividends at the highest level.As we turn to the upcoming World Championships, Noah doesn't shy away from ambition. With teammates like David Sinclair, Eli Hemming, and veteran Max King (replacing the injured Ryan Becker), Team USA is bringing perhaps its strongest squad ever. "Gold is definitely the goal," Noah states confidently, while acknowledging the fierce competition from European powerhouses like France, Spain, and Italy. The discussion delves into course specifics, equipment choices (poles vs. no poles), and the unique challenges of representing American trail running on the world stage.What comes through most clearly is Noah's passion for elevating American trail running and inspiring the next generation. "I just want to do it for that next generation and inspire some American trail runners to do the same and show them that we are the best in the world, or we can be," he shares, highlighting how this race transcends individual achievement. After Worlds, he'll transition to his winter life as a ski patroller and competitive skier, demonstrating the versatility that makes mountain athletes so impressive.Follow along as Noah takes on the world's best in the Pyrenees! Share your support for Team USA and let us know your predictions for the World Championships.Follow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textCam Smith and Anna Gibson join the podcast from Italy where they're juggling an extraordinary athletic challenge. Currently training with the USA Skimo team, both athletes are preparing to represent Team USA in dual events at the upcoming Mountain Running World Championships in Spain.The conversation offers a fascinating glimpse into their Italian training camp and the unique dynamics of preparing for two completely different mountain disciplines simultaneously. Anna reveals her deep skiing background—"It's definitely the original sport for me"—explaining how her lifelong passion for skiing has naturally evolved into competitive ski mountaineering as the sport heads toward its Olympic debut. Meanwhile, Cam shares insights about the technical challenges of mastering quick transitions and equipment changes essential to skimo racing.What makes this episode particularly compelling is the candid discussion about team dynamics within USA Trail Running. Cam details his efforts to foster camaraderie through a pre-Worlds training camp in Colorado, where the team tackled challenging 14,000-foot peaks together. "This exact group will never be together again as teammates," Smith reflects, highlighting the fleeting nature of these special team configurations and the importance of maximizing every moment.The most poignant segment comes when Anna discusses her decision to postpone her Grand Teton FKT attempt after rolling her ankle before Sierre-Zinal. Her thoughtful explanation reveals the complex calculus elite athletes must navigate when balancing personal goals against team responsibilities. The conversation concludes with a passionate discussion about anti-doping in trail running and the athletes' hopes for the sport's future, including potential Olympic inclusion.Whether you're a mountain sports enthusiast or simply fascinated by elite athlete mindsets, this episode offers remarkable insights into the dedication, versatility, and thoughtful decision-making required at the highest levels of endurance sports. Follow along as Cam and Anna head to Worlds to represent Team USA in this pivotal moment for American mountain running!Follow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textWhat does it truly mean to represent your country on the world stage? For Michelino Senseri, it's the fulfillment of a childhood dream that once seemed impossible. Speaking from Spain where he's been meticulously studying the World Trail Championship course, Michelino offers an unfiltered look at what American trail runners can expect when they toe the line against the world's best.The terrain in Spain presents a fascinating challenge - more technical than anything in the United States, with runnable climbs that zigzag up mountains and downhills so steep and rocky that Michelino warns "if it rains the night before, you're gonna wish to God you had lugs and good rubber." His early arrival and careful course reconnaissance reveal a race that will demand technical proficiency, strategic pacing, and mental fortitude from every competitor.Despite what he calls a "bumpy season," Michelino approaches this championship with refreshing clarity and determination. "How many chances do you have to line up at a world championship? If you're not rolling the dice and going for it, then why are you there?" This all-in mentality extends to his assessment of Team USA's chances against powerhouse nations like Spain, Italy, and France. With teammates Eli Hemming, David Sinclair, Seth DeMoor, Noah Williams, and late addition Max King (replacing injured Ryan Becker), Michelino believes they have the firepower to challenge for gold if three Americans can crack the top 15.Perhaps most compelling is Michelino's perspective on what success actually means. "The dream was not to win in the jersey. The dream has been to represent the jersey and the colors and the country." In a sport often focused on individual achievement, his pride in wearing the stars and stripes transcends personal results. Listen now for an insider's perspective on international competition and what it truly means to race not just for yourself, but for something larger.Follow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textWhat happens when you throw away your carefully crafted race plan and follow your intuition instead? For elite mountain runner Remi Leroux, it meant transforming a 15-race schedule into nearly 25 events across two continents in a single summer.Diving deep into his whirlwind season, Remi shares how his partnership with Brooks teammate Dan has pushed him toward spontaneity and risk-taking. Their contrasting personalities—Dan's high-energy spontaneity balanced against Remy's thoughtful approach—created the perfect dynamic for an unforgettable European racing campaign. From training camps in Les Houches to competing alongside the Brooks team at Golden Trail Series events and during UTMB week, Remy found himself surrounded by a professional team atmosphere that elevated his performance.The conversation explores Remi's victory at Cirque Series Cannon Mountain despite racing with a significant foot injury, his surprising 5th place finish at the hyper-competitive ETC race, and his specific preparation for the upcoming World Mountain Running Championships in Spain. With remarkable self-awareness, Remy analyzes his strengths—particularly his ability to climb efficiently after descending—and how he's tailoring his training for the unique demands of championship mountain racing.Perhaps most compelling is Remi's perspective on representing Team Canada on the world stage. Beyond personal achievement, he sees international performance as crucial for growing competitive mountain running in Canada, shifting perceptions from casual recreation to serious sport. His measured ambition—targeting a top-10 finish against running powerhouses like Kenya, Uganda, and Italy—reveals both humility and confidence.Join us for this fascinating glimpse into elite mountain running through the eyes of an athlete who's learned that sometimes the best decisions come from following your gut rather than your spreadsheet. Whether you're chasing podiums or personal bests, Remy's journey offers valuable insights on balancing structure with spontaneity in pursuit of your running goals.Follow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textWhat happens when you suddenly find yourself among the world's elite athletes? Mason Coppi, who has exploded onto the sub-ultra mountain running scene with remarkable success, joins us for a candid conversation about his journey to the top and upcoming World Championships appearance.Despite dominating races and earning his place among the sport's best, Mason reveals his ongoing battle with imposter syndrome. "I would feel uncomfortable putting my name in that conversation," he admits, even as his results speak volumes. Yet he's found a powerful antidote in staying present during competition – deliberately pausing during races to absorb the scenery and experience the joy of the moment.Having represented Team USA once before at Chiang Mai, Mason approaches this year's World Championships in Spain with fresh perspective. His first European trip represents not just a personal milestone but an opportunity to be part of something bigger. The camaraderie within Team USA has transformed his approach, creating what he describes as a true team environment he hasn't experienced since college. Through pre-championship training camps and races, these elite individuals have formed a cohesive unit ready to challenge the world's best.As preparation for the technically demanding world championship course continues, Mason shares his philosophy of maintaining successful training approaches rather than making dramatic changes. His balanced perspective extends to his championship expectations – acknowledging the exceptional difficulty while maintaining confidence in his abilities. Most compelling is his vision for what a team medal might mean: "This is an opportunity to really show what we're capable of" and potentially rewrite the narrative around American mountain running on the global stage.Listen now to this inspiring conversation about athletic excellence, team dynamics, and finding joy in the journey to the top. Follow Mason and Team USA as they take on the world's best mountain runners and represent American trail running on the global stage!Follow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textWhen Lindsay Allison submitted her application for the US Mountain Running World Championship team, she never expected to be selected. "When I got the call I was like, 'What? Are you sure? Me?'" she shares with genuine surprise in her voice. This unexpected honor comes at the perfect moment in her season—just as she's hitting her stride after overcoming early-season challenges.Our conversation explores Lindsay's fascinating journey through a summer of unexpected hurdles and triumphant breakthroughs. After battling persistent nausea that severely impacted her performance at Speedgoat, Lindsay discovered she might have been over-consuming electrolytes. "I think my sweat rate changed throughout the summer," she reflects, highlighting how our bodies' needs evolve with adaptation. This experience serves as a powerful reminder that even elite athletes continue learning about their bodies through careful observation and experimentation.Perhaps the most profound shift in Lindsay's season came when she intentionally disconnected from training technology. As a self-described "type A" athlete, she found herself overwhelmed by data from multiple devices. Her decision to run without her watch for several weeks proved transformative: "It was so liberating... I just felt free." This digital detox allowed her to reconnect with the pure joy of running, making decisions based solely on feel. Her subsequent performances at the Telluride Mountain Run and The Rut—both technically demanding mountain races with significant vertical gain—not only provided perfect physical preparation for Worlds but also rekindled her passion for mountain running at precisely the right moment.As Lindsay prepares to represent Team USA in Innsbruck, her humble approach and genuine excitement for the experience shine through. With plans to race UTMB Bariloche in Patagonia afterward, she's embracing every opportunity this remarkable season has presented. Join us for this candid conversation about finding balance between data and intuition, overcoming mid-season obstacles, and the unexpected paths that lead to representing your country on the world stage.Follow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textCourtney Coppinger takes us inside her journey to the Mountain Running World Championships in this candid conversation about mental resilience, team camaraderie, and the pursuit of excellence on the international stage.From Colorado's high altitude training grounds to the pristine trails of Europe, Courtney shares the rollercoaster of emotions that define an elite athlete's preparation. "Nothing felt really shiny and nothing felt really good," she admits about her final training block, before describing how arriving in Europe instantly restored her confidence: "The stoke immediately came back because sea level, 60-degree temps, perfect trails... I had a run yesterday and it just all came back and I'm like, yep, you're fit, you're ready."Her recent performances validate that preparation. At the World Cup Finals in Slovenia, Courtney made a pivotal mental shift, deciding to race aggressively from the start rather than working from behind. The result? A breakthrough third-place finish that transformed her self-belief. Similarly, at the A-Basin Cirque Series race, she pushed through early suffering to claim second place, reinforcing valuable lessons about race strategy and recovery.What truly shines through is Courtney's deep appreciation for team culture. She speaks passionately about the pre-World Championships camp organized by teammate Cam Smith, where Team USA members formed meaningful bonds. "There were no egos, everybody was just super excited to get to know each other," she reflects. This team-first mentality extends to her Brooks teammates, who have become her closest friends in the sport. "I literally was tearing up because I didn't know that I was going to sign with you guys and find two of my best friends," she shares, emphasizing that these relationships transcend running achievements.Looking ahead to the World Championships, Courtney's confidence in Team USA is unwavering. "This team, it's just these girls on this team... I couldn't pick a better group of four sub-ultra classic style racers," she declares, believing they have excellent medal potential. With a month in Europe planned after the championships, Courtney's passion for the sport, her teammates, and the adventure of it all promises to carry her through the biggest race of her season.Follow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textWhen Sydney Petersen toed the line at the Broken Arrow Skyrace this summer, she wasn't sure she'd even finish. After two weeks of complete rest nursing what she feared might be a serious hip injury, her training was far from ideal for what would serve as the US World Championship qualifier. Yet sometimes our greatest performances emerge when expectations fall away."I think everything that could have gone wrong leading up to this race went wrong," Peterson reveals in this candid conversation. "I wasn't feeling good, I wasn't even sure if I was going to be able to race." Despite these setbacks, Peterson found herself in a unique mental space—grateful simply to be healthy enough to compete and free from self-imposed pressure. What followed was a breakthrough performance that secured her spot on Team USA's vertical squad for the World Mountain Running Championships.The drama of that qualifying race unfolds like a thriller as Petersen describes getting caught behind slower runners at the start, methodically working through the field, and misunderstanding her position. Believing she was the fourth American (the final qualifying spot) rather than her actual position as second American, she sprinted desperately to the finish in what she calls "the farthest I've ever gone into the pain cave." This performance marked a profound shift in how she views herself within the competitive landscape: "Before it was like the top American women are in their race and I'll be running my race behind them. Now I consider myself in the same race."From European racing adventures to Team USA training camps in Colorado, Peterson shares the lessons she's gathered in her rapid evolution as an elite trail runner. With the World Championships approaching, she balances the team's medal potential with her desire to remain present for the experience. Her journey reminds us that in trail running's unpredictable world, adaptability and gratitude often matter more than perfect preparation.Follow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textRuby Lindquist has experienced a meteoric rise in the trail running world this season, securing a coveted spot on Team USA for the World Trail Championships following a gutsy sixth-place finish at the hyper-competitive Broken Arrow 50K. Our conversation dives deep into the mental strategies that allow her to push through pain barriers when races aren't going according to plan."You feel this awful feeling and you just have to pass right through it," Ruby explains, describing how she managed to stay focused at Broken Arrow despite not feeling her best. This acceptance of suffering rather than resistance to it has become a cornerstone of her racing philosophy. It's particularly relevant as she prepares for the World Championships course with its punishing 12,000 feet of vertical gain—terrain that should play to the strengths of the strong Alaskan contingent heading to the event.Ruby's evolution as an athlete extends beyond the mental game. She's embraced a data-driven approach to nutrition, working with professionals to determine she's actually a "low salty sweater"—contradicting the high-sodium approach she'd previously followed. This personalized nutritional strategy has eliminated much of the trial-and-error that plagued her longer races in the past. Combined with targeted strength training and focused vert sessions, Ruby is methodically addressing every aspect of performance.What stands out most in our conversation is Ruby's balanced perspective on competitive running. Despite her elite status, she emphasizes the importance of maintaining joy in the sport: "The reason why we do this is to be outside," she reminds us. This philosophy extends to her vision for trail running's future, where she believes Olympic-level competition can coexist with the community-oriented soul of the sport—much like what's happened with climbing and surfing.Want to follow Ruby's journey or discover what fuels one of America's most promising mountain runners? Listen now to hear her full story, from eating udon daily in Japan to finding herself on the start list with some of the world's best ultra athletes.Follow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textSummits conquered, records shattered, and mountains yet to climb—Jasmine Lowther's extraordinary summer of racing defies conventional limits. Fresh from breaking the Grand Teton FKT and excelling at OCC, she now stands on the precipice of the World Championships in Spain.The Grand Teton FKT attempt reveals a fascinating dimension of Jasmine's relationship with mountains. Despite having only three weeks to prepare for a challenge that ideally requires months of intimate mountain knowledge, she conquered not just the technical terrain but her own fears. "You're going to be dancing with it," her sports psychologist told her about the mountain, "so get to know it." That dance between fear and achievement colors every step of her journey, whether navigating exposed ridges where one misstep means a 6,000-foot fall or facing wild boars on Spanish training runs.Now preparing for World Championships, Jasmine paints a vivid picture of what awaits: a course unlike any typical trail race. With significant sections completely off-trail through grassy fields and technical gullies, dozens of punishing switchbacks, and terrain so challenging "it's going to run like a 120K race" despite being only 50 miles. The technical downhills will favor skilled mountain runners over pure speed specialists, creating an unpredictable race where "dark horses" might challenge established champions.Beyond the physical challenges, Jasmine thoughtfully addresses broader issues facing trail running—from the complexities of anti-doping enforcement to the special feeling of representing Canada on an international stage. Her perspective balances competitive fire with genuine appreciation for the mountain environments and community that make this sport so compelling.Looking to challenge yourself on technical mountain terrain? Listen now for insights from someone who's mastering the art of dancing with mountains, and follow Jasmine's journey as she carries the maple leaf to Spain's most demanding trails.Follow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textStanding at the base of Pike's Peak, staring up at the formidable 14,115-foot summit piercing the Colorado sky, runners face more than just a grueling physical challenge—they confront what veterans call "the ultimate mental battle." Every year, over 2,500 athletes from 46 states and eight countries gather in Manitou Springs to test their limits in America's most iconic mountain race.What keeps bringing elite and recreational runners back to this punishing course year after year? As one participant puts it: "You know this is a test against yourself... everybody that's out here is doing it and everybody's testing themselves." The Pike's Peak Marathon and Ascent aren't merely races; they're deeply personal journeys of self-discovery set against the backdrop of one of America's most magnificent mountains.We dive deep into what makes the 2025 edition particularly compelling, examining the stacked elite fields in both the Ascent and Marathon races. The Ascent competition looks especially fierce this year, with Seth DeMoore, Brian Whitfield, Mika Bowdoin, and rising star Zach Erickson headlining the men's field, while Reena Schwartz leads an equally impressive women's contingent. Meanwhile, John Sinclair and Christina Conati both chase historic fourth consecutive victories in the Marathon.The podcast also explores what sets Pike's Peak apart as one of America's three oldest trail races alongside Dipsea and Mount Marathon in Alaska. We examine the community cultures surrounding each event, race strategies for conquering the mountain's brutal upper sections, and ideas for enhancing the Pike's Peak experience for both participants and spectators. Whether you're a competitive mountain runner or simply fascinated by what drives humans to push their limits at 14,000 feet, this episode offers an inspiring look at the physical and psychological journey that awaits on America's Ultimate Challenge.Ready to test yourself against the mountain? Join us as we unravel what makes Pike's Peak the definitive proving ground for trail runners from around the world.Follow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textPike's Peak isn't just a mountain—it's America's Ultimate Challenge. Rising dramatically from 6,000 to 14,000 feet, this Colorado landmark draws over 2,500 runners annually from across the globe, all seeking to test their limits against its unforgiving terrain.What makes this race truly special? As elite mountain runner Kiern Nay explains, "It's just you're constantly wondering if you're going too hard and if you're going to die." Unlike strategic ultra events where pacing and problem-solving matter, Pike's Peak demands maximum effort from start to finish—a "total red line from the gun to the top." Pull back even slightly, and the mountain makes you pay.For Kieran, who grew up in Colorado Springs with Pike's Peak as his constant backdrop, the mountain represents both personal history and professional benchmark. After finishing an impressive fifth place in his first competitive trail race there at age 20, he returns year after year, drawn by the mountain's brutal honesty and the race's rich tradition. "You know this is a test against yourself," he reflects, highlighting why this race transcends competition to become something more profound.The podcast explores Kieran's evolution as an athlete, from focusing on shorter mountain races to embracing longer challenges like the Grand Traverse and Speed Goat. We also dive into his upcoming adventure representing Team USA at the Continental Sky Running Championships in Mexico, where he'll race at elevations exceeding 15,000 feet. Throughout our conversation, Kieran shares insights into high-altitude training, race preparation, and building community among elite mountain runners in Colorado's Gunnison Valley.Whether you're a dedicated trail runner or simply fascinated by what drives athletes to push their limits, this episode offers a compelling glimpse into the mind of an elite mountain runner and the iconic race that continues to define his journey. Subscribe now and join us for more inspiring conversations with the remarkable athletes who call the mountains their proving ground.Follow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textThe mountain looms ahead, a vertical challenge that tests not just physical endurance but mental fortitude. "It's just you're constantly wondering if you're going too hard and if you're going to die," says one elite runner, capturing perfectly why uphill racing has become such a compelling discipline within trail running.We dive deep into the world of vertical challenges, exploring America's Ultimate Challenge at Pike's Peak, where over 2,500 runners from 46 different states and eight foreign countries gather annually to push their limits. The conversation takes us across continents as we compare the established European uphill racing scene with its growing American counterpart, examining what makes these pure tests of human endurance so addictive for those who attempt them.From the grueling Bar Horn race in Switzerland with its staggering 10,500 feet of vertical gain to the community-focused Mount Ashland Hill Climb, we explore different race formats and what makes each unique. Elite runners share their strategies for conquering these monsters – from specialized nutrition approaches that favor liquid carbohydrates to equipment choices like modified road shoes that maximize efficiency on the climbs.Perhaps most fascinating is the psychological component of uphill racing. The successful athlete must master the art of measured effort, knowing when to push and when to conserve, while constantly battling the inner voice that questions if they're going too hard or not hard enough. As one runner puts it, "You know this is a test against yourself... everybody that's out here is doing it and everybody's testing themselves."Whether you're a seasoned mountain goat or curious about why anyone would willingly subject themselves to thousands of feet of continuous climbing, this conversation reveals the pure, primal satisfaction that comes from starting at the bottom and finishing at the top – testing your limits against gravity itself.Follow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textThe mental battle against the mountain defines Pike's Peak Ascent, drawing thousands to test their limits at what's rightfully earned its reputation as "America's Ultimate Challenge." Elite trail runners reveal that beyond physical preparation, it's the psychological fortitude required that brings them back year after year.When asked what keeps competitors returning to this grueling ascent, the answer is simple yet profound: "You're constantly wondering if you're going too hard and if you're going to die." This raw honesty captures why over 2,500 runners from 46 states and eight countries gather annually in Manitou Springs to push themselves toward the clouds. For veterans and newcomers alike, Pike's Peak represents something deeper than competition against others—it's a personal test against oneself.We dive into the world of professional trail running with elite athlete Sarah, who shares insights from her remarkable season racing across Europe and the United States. From the mud-soaked technical descents of Plitzalpin Glacier Trail to the passionate fans lining OCC's course in Chamonix, Sarah offers a glimpse into the highest levels of mountain racing. Her perspective on balancing mental energy across multiple high-stakes races provides valuable wisdom: "You can only put your soul on the line so many times in a season."The conversation highlights a fascinating contrast between European and American race atmospheres. While European events boast incredible spectator culture with fans cheering in remote mountain locations regardless of weather, American races are still developing this vibrant support system. "There's something about being 30 miles into a race and having people cheer your name that gives you a little more life," Sarah notes, suggesting that perhaps all we need is a "cowbell fund" to elevate the American trail racing experience.Whether you're an aspiring mountain runner or simply fascinated by those who challenge themselves in extreme environments, this exploration of Pike's Peak Ascent reveals why this iconic race continues to captivate the imagination and test the limits of human endurance. Join us for an intimate look at what drives athletes to push beyond their perceived limitations when the mountain calls.Follow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textEvery summer, thousands of runners journey to Manitou Springs for America's Ultimate Challenge – the legendary Pikes Peak Marathon. For three-time champion Kristina Mascarenas, this race represents something far deeper than just another mountain to conquer."It's just you're constantly wondering if you're going too hard and if you're going to die," Kristina candidly shares, capturing the essence of what draws elite athletes back to this grueling event year after year. "You know this is a test against yourself. Everybody that's out here is doing it and everybody's testing themselves."In this revealing conversation, Kristina opens up about her 2024 racing season, including a difficult DNF at Black Canyon 100K that prompted her to refocus on events that bring joy rather than pressure. She discusses her strategic approach to shorter races like the Broken Arrow 23K and her triumphant win at the Barr Trail Mountain Race – perfect preparation for her upcoming attempt at a historic fourth Pikes Peak Marathon victory.The personal connection to Pikes Peak runs deep for Kristina, who's planning a multi-generational family participation for next year's race. Her intimate knowledge of every section of the mountain, from equipment choices to weather considerations, reveals why she's become synonymous with this iconic event. Yet she remains humble, joking about being labeled a "backyard betty" despite achievements that place her among the all-time greats of mountain running.Whether you're fascinated by the mental aspects of endurance sports, curious about elite training approaches, or simply drawn to stories of human potential, Christina's journey reminds us why we challenge mountains – not just to reach their summits, but to discover what lies within ourselves when pushed to the edge of possibility.Follow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com! 

Send us a textThe mental and physical crucible of Pike's Peak brings together over 2,500 runners annually to test themselves against what organizers aptly call "America's Ultimate Challenge." What drives athletes back to this mountain year after year? As one elite runner explains, "You're constantly wondering if you're going too hard and if you're going to die... it's an ultimate mental battle."This conversation dives deep into the psychology of mountain racing, examining how athletes approach a challenge where the real competition isn't other runners but the mountain itself. "I don't care what racers show up," shares a veteran competitor. "This is a test against yourself. Everybody that's out here is doing it, everybody's testing themselves."We explore the strategic elements that make Pike's Peak particularly demanding - from pacing the notorious "W's" section where "you can't gain much but can sure as hell lose a lot," to adapting nutrition strategies as altitude increases and digestive challenges mount. Elite runners share their training approaches, balancing structured workouts with time spent "running in the mountains, getting in the Alpine, seeing cool lakes and tagging some peaks."The discussion reveals how these athletes think about race craft - the mental calculations, the physical adaptations to altitude, and the nutrition strategies that evolve from trailhead to summit. For anyone fascinated by endurance psychology or considering their own mountain challenge, this episode offers both practical wisdom and a window into what happens when body and mind are pushed to their limits against one of America's most iconic peaks.Curious about what it takes to conquer your own mountains - literal or metaphorical? Listen now for insights that extend far beyond the trail.Follow Jeff on IG - @jefe.cunoFollow James on IG - @jameslaurielloFollow the Steep Stuff Podcast on IG - @steepstuff_podUse code steepstuffpod for 25% off your cart at UltimateDirection.com!