Podcast appearances and mentions of Jesus Lizard

Without Your Head podcast with host Nasty Neal joined by "A Desert" co-star Jesus Lizard frontman David Yow! Out now at select theaters and VOD/Digital Platforms!"A photographer's road trip takes a dark turn when he befriends a reckless couple, plunging him into a nightmarish neo-noir spiral of unpredictable horror."

You know you're dealing with a slightly classier type of pop star movie when the director has a knighthood, and Sir Steve McQueen's Blitz is no exception. Despite getting no love at this year's Oscars - it's no Emilia Perez, eh, the Academy? - it's still an ambitious, multi-stranded tale of one boy's adventure through the underworld of World War II-era Britain. It tackles racial prejudice, community organising, McQueen's usual theme of the communal role of music and... wait, is that Paul Weller?Maybe it was inevitable that the former frontman of the Style Council and the Jam would end up in a film where people do, indeed, end up down in the tube station at midnight. But there's more to it than that, as Weller superfan Mick points out. Rejoining the show after previously tackling the Style Council movie Jerusalem, he talks to Graham about the many near-misses of Weller's screen career, as well as the many palpable hits of McQueen's. And, since this podcast was recorded late last year we might as well say it here: RIP Rick Buckler.If you want to help us make money without robbing the victims of the Luftwaffe, you can donate to our Patreon where you'll soon find the latest exclusive episode of this very show - one for fans of The Jesus Lizard, we'll say - plus exclusive regular articles on classic Asian genre cinema, The X-Files, Red Dwarf, The Twilight Zone and much more. Follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to find out more.

In the latest recap episode, Len recounts his day at the five-Best-Picture-Nominee marathon in Woodridge, IL. We also talk NBA and college hoops, including the new Northwestern mini-resurgence. We have our "I Recommend" section, where Beave recommends the baseball book "July 2, 1903", and Len recommends some SNL-related books, including Norm McDonald's "Based On A True Story", Martin Short's "I Must Say", "The Chris Farley Show", and Colin Jost's "A Very Punchable Face". Len shakes his head at the now monumental task of completing the New Yorker's 100th Anniversary Issue. Beave reviews the new album from Matt Berry ("What We Do In The Shadows"). Finally, they review Bob Dylan's "Modern Times", plus Recently Discovered Top 40 Albums. Tune in!

This season we discuss over 300 albums of the 1990s selected from https://besteveralbums.com. The show starts at (1:23). The Ten Singles segment starts at (7:30). This episode covers the following albums: 2Pac - All Eyez On Me (56:19), The Jesus Lizard - Goat (1:26:41), and The Amps - Pacer (1:40:39).

Full Rig Info: https://www.premierguitar.com/videos/rig-rundown/the-jesus-lizard-2025Subscribe to PG's Channel: http://bit.ly/SubscribePGYouTubeWhen the Jesus Lizard released their seventh studio record, Rack, last September, it ended a 26-year hiatus between recordings, and lovers of raucous, steely rock music around the world rejoiced. As guitarist Duane Denison told PG's Nick Millevoi in our feature story, the key to the album's vitality—and reviving the band's brutal sound—was simple: “Practice loud.” Ahead of a hotly anticipated U.K. tour celebrating the record, the band gathered at SIR's rehearsal space in Nashville to do exactly that. PG's Chris Kies stopped by to see what Denison and bassist David Wm. Sims were stuffing into their suitcases for the trip across the pond.Full Rig Info: https://www.premierguitar.com/videos/rig-rundown/the-jesus-lizard-2025Subscribe to PG's Channel: http://bit.ly/SubscribePGYouTubeWin Guitar Gear: https://bit.ly/GiveawaysPGDon't Miss a Rundown: http://bit.ly/RIgRundownENLMerch & Magazines: https://shop.premierguitar.comPG's Facebook: https://facebook.com/premierguitarPG's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/premierguitar/PG's Twitter: https://twitter.com/premierguitarPG's Threads: https://threads.net/@premierguitarPG's TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@premierguitar0:15 - Duane Denison Playing Intro1:08 - Celebrating Band's Longevity & New Album Rack2:18 - Duane Denison's Powers Electric Type A5:04 - Why Duane Denison Practices Really Loud6:43 - What Duane Denison Needs From His Guitar Tone7:44 - The Jesus Lizard Tunings8:42 - Duane Denison's Core Tone (Hide and Seek)10:02 - Duane Denison's Chorus Tone11:42 - Duane Denison's Delay & Unison Notes12:53 - Duane Denison's "Oddball" Sound13:44 - How Duane Denison Uses Space in His Guitar Playing16:55 - Duane Denison's Stringjoy Strings & Picks18:37 - How Duane Denison Warms Up & Stays Limber19:44 - Duane Denison's Victory VS100 Super Sheriff21:25 - Duane Denison's Line 6 Helix Floor23:25 - Duane Denison's Soloing Technique ("Grind")25:35 - What Still Excites Duane Denison About Guitar?27:03 - "Puss" Live27:42 - John Bohlinger & XPND Pedalboard28:33 - David Wm. Sims' Memphis Jazz Bass Copy31:20 - David Wm. Sims on Using a Pick & Rotosound Strings32:28 - David Wm. Sims' Core Bass Tone33:18 - David Wm. Sims Gallien-Krueger 800RB34:01 - David Wm. Sims on Recording 'Rack'34:48 - David Wm. Sims Cabinet & Speaker Preferences35:55 - David Wm. Sims' Pedals37:30 - David Wm. Sims' "What If" Bass Tone38:36 - David Wm. Sims' Favorite Songs & Most-Difficult Parts39:43 - Final Thoughts & Outro40:23 - D'Addario Strings[Brought to you by D'Addario: https://ddar.io/wykyk-rr & XPND Pedalboard: https://ddari.io/xpnd.rr]© Copyright Gearhead Communications LLC, 2025#guitar #rigrundown #guitarist #guitarplayer #guitargear

The Jesus Lizard, IDLES, Lambrini Girls and McDonalds all get a mention in today's Stop & Chat with Cal from DITZ. Their new album Never Exhale is out this Friday, and they're touring all over EU in Feb/March. Join the 101 Fan Club for £2 per month (comes with big badge): Patreon.com/101parttimejobs Get yourself some top class Shure microphone gear: https://shu.re/3YhV7p2 DistroKid makes music distribution fun and easy with unlimited uploads and artists keeping the ENTIRETY of their revenue. Get 30% off the first year of their service by signing up at https://distrokid.com/vip/101pod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Our guest today is John Baldwin - a mastering engineer from Nashville, TN. John has worked with Lou Reed, Sly Stone, Emmylou Harris, Nancy Sinatra, Glossary, and The Jesus Lizard. We talk about persistence in getting an internship, not convoluting the process, leaning on Brian Eno for guidance, retraining yourself to not “grind” yourself until defeat, and getting outside to do things unrelated to mastering. This episode's music is brought to you by Maggie Mae from Philadelphia, PA. For more information on Maggie Mae, head to: https://www.maggiemaemusic.com For more information about John: Check out https://johnbaldwinmastering.com And you can find him on Instagram: @johnbaldwinmastering

Episode 456 Brian Boucher is an art writer, journalist and critic living in New York, with bylines at publications including the New York Times, New York Magazine, Artnet News, ARTnews, and many others. He previously served as a staff writer and editor at Art in America and a staff writer at Artnet News. He writes about crazy artists' projects (such as when Darren Bader offered his practice for sale), reports on the art market, covers developments in the art education field, and often reports on places where the art world and the wider world intersect, such as the potential cultural impact of the second Trump presidency and how Syrian artists and other cultural figures are looking ahead to a post-Assad era.  Here, he looks back on some of the shows, events and artworks that moved him in 2024, some of which he wrote about, including Bruce Nauman's current show at Sperone Westwater, Marlon Mullen's current show at MoMA, Guillaume Guillon Lethiere's recent show at the Clark Art Institute, now at the Louvre, Christopher Wool's recent self-organized show at a disused Lower Manhattan office space, the collective MSCHF's piece “Met's Sink of Theseus" in their recent Perrotin show, and some he didn't write about, like the Maurice Sendak exhibition now at the Denver Art Museum and the Siena exhibition now at the Metropolitan Museum of Art.  He also talked about some of the live music that turned his crank in 2024, including Soul Coughing, Tigue, and the Jesus Lizard, and looks ahead to the farewell tour of the legendary British punk band Gang of Four.

Queue up some jams for your New Year's Eve party with this roundup of some of our favorite music segments from 2024, featuring Beyoncé, the Jesus Lizard, Bayonne and more. The post Our top music stories for the year appeared first on KUT & KUTX Studios -- Podcasts.

This week: a sister-cast episode to a series we have called the Inbetweeners where we on the bands straddling the 80s and 90s in rock n' punk n' metal. This is more specific to metal in the 90s after feeling the impact of the overwhelming shifting of sounds during the decade. Metal became a dirty word by the mid-90s as grunge and alternative took over the rock world, but a new movement in the metal genre blended all of these influences with the heavy. Thus, we give you - 90s Alternative Metal!What's this InObscuria thing? Our podcast exhumes obscure Rock n' Punk n' Metal and puts them in one of 3 categories: the Lost, the Forgotten, or the Should Have Beens. This week we cover mostly bands that have been forgotten including some bands that we played early on in the podcast. The transition from the heavy metal 80s to the punk-edged alternative of the 90s was a time like no other, and metal bands that began during this time put it all in an industrial-strength metal blender. Hope ya dig! Songs this week include:Quicksand – “Thorn In My Side” from Manic Compression (1995)Fragile Porcelain Mice – “Brown Nickel” from Frostbiddin (1996)Therapy? – “Nasuea” from Nurse (1992)Corrosion Of Conformity – “Clean My Wounds” from Deliverance (1994)Prong – “Unconditional” from Prove You Wrong (1991)Fight – “I Am Alive” from A Small Deadly Space (1995)Life Of Agony – “This Time” from River Runs Red (1993)Please subscribe everywhere that you listen to podcasts!Visit us: https://inobscuria.com/https://www.facebook.com/InObscuriahttps://twitter.com/inobscuriahttps://www.instagram.com/inobscuria/Buy cool stuff with our logo on it!: https://www.redbubble.com/people/InObscuria?asc=uCheck out Robert's amazing fire sculptures and metal workings here: http://flamewerx.com/If you'd like to check out Kevin's band THE SWEAR, take a listen on all streaming services or pick up a digital copy of their latest release here: https://theswear.bandcamp.com/If you want to hear Robert and Kevin's band from the late 90s – early 00s BIG JACK PNEUMATIC, check it out here: https://bigjackpnuematic.bandcamp.com/

Unlock the full episode here: https://www.patreon.com/c/coldpodDerek Madison aka Grasshopper is a Toronto legend who has worked with many seminal Toronto artists throughout the 90's and 2000's, spanning genres such as grunge, indie rock and hip hop. Up until recently, his store Grasshopper Records was a fixture of the Dundas West strip. Grasshopper sat down with us to discuss Godspeed You! Black Emperor, wandering the streets of Toronto as a kid, getting exposed to punk by his uncle, Yonge St in the 80's, joining a goth band, Slither Club, Dawn Wilkinson, opening a store in the 8th grade, SEED Alternative School, The Rivoli, sneaking into shows as a kid, Dinosaur Jr, The Jesus Lizard, Mudhoney, begging the promotor of Lee's Palace to book Nirvana, Sonic Youth, The Beastie Boys, starting Grasshopper the day after seeing Nirvana live, The Twilight Zone (club), Sassy Magazine, Play De Record, smoking hash for the first time, going to Jamaica, Sebadoh, De La Soul, the after hours at 44 Dovercourt, getting a cease and desist from UofT, Phleg Camp, getting introduced to RZA by The Butthole Surfers, touring with Unsane, Da Grassroots, working with Gadget in the 90s, Main Source, The Philosopher Kings, befriending Lenny Kravitz, meeting Biggie, never asking for an autograph, Sean Paul, all ages shows, Liars, The Strokes and much more!GrasshopperJosh McIntyreAustin Hutchings----COLD POD

Today's episode finds friends Harris King and Oswald König riding the September 2024 New Music Train. The duo share new music from Julie, Mo Dotti, Floating Points and The Jesus Lizard. Rockin' the Suburbs on Apple Podcasts/iTunes or other podcast platforms, including audioBoom, Spotify, Google Podcasts, Amazon, iHeart, Stitcher and TuneIn. Or listen at SuburbsPod.com. Please rate/review the show on Apple Podcasts and share it with your friends. Visit our website at SuburbsPod.com Email Jim & Patrick at rock@suburbspod.com Follow us on the Threads, Facebook or Instagram @suburbspod If you're glad or sad or high, call the Suburban Party Line — 612-440-1984. Theme music: "Ascension," originally by Quartjar, covered by Frank Muffin. Visit quartjar.bandcamp.com and frankmuffin.bandcamp.com.

*NEW EPISODE NOW AVAILABLE**The Tobacco Road ShowEpisode 143- The "DEBBY IS BACK” Episode.All throughout October we'll celebrate the CHICAGO INDUSTRIAL MUSIC SCENE! Welcome to CHICAGOTOBER!Last Call Tonight...members of KMFDM and Thrill Kill Kult unite.. to form EXCESSIVE FORCE!!LETS GO FROM TWANG TO BANG!The Tobacco Road Show comes to you live every Wednesday at 7:30 PM CST with Chicagoland's dlonz on Cowboy's Juke Joint Radio www.cowboysjukejoint.com.  Take a ride down Tobacco Road for the best in dirty cowpunk, whiskey soaked blues, and beyond. Hey bands! Submit your songs to:Email:  tobaccoroadshow@gmail.com01. Ron&Bjorn - Tobacco Road02. Devon Sants - Finding Hotel California03. the Bridge City Sinners - Doubt04. Fishgutzzz - 01 - Fishgutzzz - Crawling To Church05. Soviet Shiksa - Texas06. Bound by Law - Cold Dark I07. Nocona - Post Apocalyptic Blues08. Bent Brothers - Mystery09. Bobby Lee - Trucker Speed 10. Bria - The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine Anymore11. Bishop Gunn - Gypsy Cadillac12. White Rose Motor Oil - Werewolves of London13. Annie Dukes - Blood Red14. VOLK - Yorkshire Girl15. The Curls - The Pink Room (Ft Salesforce Child)16. The Curls - Muncher Madness17. wht.rbbt.obj - Jolene's Reply (Re-Mastered)18. badcandy - Regret19. Local Motive - Killer20. Bradley Palermo - R.F.H.21. The Jesus Lizard - 7 vs. 822. Whores. - BABY BIRD23. Helmet - Bad Mood 24. Season To Risk - Snakes25. Excessive Force - Violent Peace

On this week's episode, the boys talk about Chris' Best Friends Forever Fest, including bands like, Phony, Karate, Braid, Built To Spill, Unwound, Murder City Devils, The Get Up Kids, The Jesus Lizard (who won the festival), that's the reason why Chris was so blown and not able to pod the last couple of days. Other topics include the release of the 2025 WSL Championship Tour Schedule, some more surfers who are in and out of the 2025 Championship Tour rookie class like, Vahine Fierro, George Pittar, and Joel Vaughn (just to name a few), the new Electric Acid Surfboard Test with Rasta, 10 people you meet when buying used boards by The Inertia, Jamie Thomas turns 50 starts Warsaw footwear, Colby + wetsuit review, Todd's mini-industry rant, Mikey LeBlanc for COAL headwear, Arbor Snowboard team announcement, some questions answered, and not much more. Presented by: Sun Bum @sunbum By Spy Optics @spyoptic Hansen Surfboards @hansensurf Bachan's Japanese BBQ Sauce @trybachans MachuPicchu Energy @machupicchu.energy Pannikin Coffee And Tea @pannikincoffeeandtea Bubs Naturals @bubsnatruals Hansen Surfboards @hansensurf Slobber @slobber.xyz New Greens @newgreens Pedal Electric @pedal.electric Vesyl Shipping @vesylapp Mint Tours @minttours Die Cut Stickers @diecutstickersdotcom

Join DJ Jesse Luscious as he dives into new tunes from veteran bands The Jesus Lizard, Slim Cessna's Auto Club, Wolfbrigade, The BellRays, & The Linda Lindas & up-and-comers Dakka Skanks, Enforced, Mental Fix, The Dead And Living, The Puncturists, Divide and Dissolve, Night Court, Hunger Anthem, The Meringues & The Calamatix! Hear classics from Ramones, Rocket From The Crypt, Fea, Snuff, Soda Pop Curtis, The World/Inferno Friendship Society, Zorn, Phantasm (Australia), Misfits, Sweet Baby, Choked Up, Mission of Burma, Tension Span, Amyl and The Sniffers, Savage Republic, & Rancid, plus the Luscious Listener's Choice!  Dakka Skanks- Babylon Falling Calamatix- Still Rudy Meringues- 70 Lemon Trees Choked Up- Just The Best Party World (Inferno) Friendship Society- The Elegant Solution Mission Of Burma- That's When I Reach For My Revolver Slim Cessna's Auto Club- Cesaré Savage Republic- The Hanging Garden Linda Lindas- Nothing Would Change Amyl And The Sniffers- Balaclava Lover Boogie Night Court- Captain Caveperson Hunger Anthem- Patron Jesus Lizard- Grind Tension Span- Cracked Society Dead And Living- Damage Divide And Dissolve- Monolithic Phantasm- Conflict Reality Zorn- Endless Fantasies Wolfbrigade- Ways To Die Enforced- A Leap In The Dark Rancid- Killing Zone Misfits- Die, Die My Darling Bellrays- Hard Drive Puncturists- It's Untrue Mental Fix- Persona Non Grata Sweet Baby- Andorra Soda Pop Curtis- Skinny Dip Snuff- Patient Zero Fea- Girl Band Ramones- Pet Sematary Rocket From The Crypt- Ditch Digger

Welcome back to another TCP... yeah, we're shortening it for time. On this week's show we look at a bunch of really, really great records from September. Including both of our faves from the months. There's chat on big new ones from Mercury Rev, MJ Lenderman, Fat Dog, The Jesus Lizard, Floating Points and Zetra.

Autumn releases arrive with the album for the season, a huge return, and several much hyped debuts to assess, from Unto Others, The Black Dahlia Murder, Nightwish, Zetra, Heriot, Vended, Vicious Blade, & The Jesus Lizard.Unto Others 21:45The Black Dahlia Murder 57:55Nightwish 1:19:30Zetra 1:37:58Heriot 1:52:42Vended 2:08:41Vicious Blade 2:27:34The Jesus Lizard 2:38:44

In this episode of Our Big Dumb Mouth (OBDM), the show kicks off with a mix of casual banter and light music talk, focusing briefly on the chaos surrounding Perry Farrell and his tour demands. Mike shares an anecdote about attending a Jesus Lizard concert, reflecting on the wild energy of the band's performance. However, the show quickly moves past music and delves into deeper, more intriguing subjects, shifting the focus toward paranormal discussions and conspiracy theories. In the second segment, the hosts dive into political and current events, sparked by a call from Joe at Six Flags. The conversation touches on unsettling topics such as the recent spike in executions in Saudi Arabia, a bizarre court case involving a man suing his mother over his comic book collection, and a North Carolina judge allowing digital IDs for voting. Mike and Cratchit then transition into a heavier discussion about an assassination attempt on Donald Trump, speculating on the involvement of multiple sniper teams and potential government cover-ups. They express their concerns about the lack of media attention and the FBI's role in concealing key details, highlighting their ongoing skepticism about official narratives. In the final segment, the show takes on a strange and entertaining turn with bizarre news stories and listener calls. A major smuggling operation is uncovered at the U.S.-Mexico border involving over 700 pounds of Mexican bologna, as well as undeclared prescription drugs. The hosts also discuss recent UFO sightings, particularly a mysterious object shot down over Canada, and speculate on the possibility of advanced civilizations using avatars to interact with humans. The episode wraps up with fascinating theories about time-traveling aliens and their potential involvement in human affairs, keeping the audience captivated with a mix of humor, strange news, and wild conspiracy ideas.   Secret Service Counter Snipers: More than 1 shooter https://x.com/I_Am_JohnCullen/status/1839336489593008502 First Look At Mystery Object Shot Down Over Canada By F-22 Raptor Last Year https://www.twz.com/air/first-look-at-mystery-object-shot-down-over-canada-by-f-22-raptor-last-year This theory explains UFO and Aliens https://x.com/digijordan/status/1836521626269356388   - Affiliates Links - Jackery:  https://shrsl.com/3cxhf Barebones:  https://bit.ly/3G38773  - OBDM Merch - https://obdm.creator-spring.com/ Buy Tea! Mike's wife makes some good tea: Naked Gardener Teas: https://www.thenakedgardener.us/store Bags Art Store: https://www.redbubble.com/people/BagsDraws/   Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research ▀▄▀▄▀ CONTACT LINKS ▀▄▀▄▀ ► Phone: 614-388-9109 ► Skype: ourbigdumbmouth ► Website: http://obdmpod.com ► Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/obdmpod ► Full Videos at Odysee: https://odysee.com/@obdm:0 ► Twitter: https://twitter.com/obdmpod ► Instagram: obdmpod ► Email: ourbigdumbmouth at gmail ► RSS: http://ourbigdumbmouth.libsyn.com/rss ► iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/our-big-dumb-mouth/id261189509?mt=2  

I'll never forget the first time I heard the music of the iconic noise-rock band The Jesus Lizard — it was more than thirty years ago, thanks to my older brother Michael playing me their song “Seasick,” from the band's second studio album, Goat, released in 1991 and produced by the legendary Steve Albini.  That song blew my mind. It made me feel like I was actually inside of the tune itself, and that, like the narrator of the song, yowling about how he “can't swim,” that I was somehow drowning in the music. Not in a scary way — in an empowering, visceral way. It's a song I still go back to, and that album is one I go back to all the time. It was a thrill to get to ask David about that song, in particular, about working with Albini, and so much more. In this episode, David discusses his earliest creative inclinations as a visual artist, and as a music lover and musician, and how everything changed when he discovered punk rock at age twenty. We also delved into the making of the first new studio album by The Jesus Lizard in twenty-six years, their excellent, newly released LP Rack. Although he cites influences such as the Beatles and Queen and The Huns and Fear and Nick Cave's band The Birthday Party, what David does is a thing unto itself. He is truly an inimitable performer and it was an honor to speak to him for this episode. 

This week we're discussing every album by Flipper. While known to many as a huge influence to bands like Nirvana and the Melvins, Flipper are a punk band unlike any other. They're as amazing as they are terrible, but completely unique and bizarrely innovative. After founding member and bassist/vocalist Will Shatter died in 1987, they've gone through various breakups and reunions, even as far as recruiting Nirvana's Krist Novoselic and the Jesus Lizard's David Yow. These days they tour with the legendary Mike Watt.Closing track: "Hard Cold World" from Public Flipper Limited (1986)Patreonhttps://www.patreon.com/everyalbumeverMerchhttps://pandermonkey.creator-spring.com/Mike's EP:Pander Monkey on Bandcamp, Spotify, Apple,Instagram:Mike @pandermonkeyAlex @everyalbumalexRobert @hoodpass.wicTom @tomosmansoundsHistory Tom's stuff:Music on Spotify, ApplePodcast on Spotify, YouTubeSubstackWebsiteRobert's show on NTS Radio: https://www.nts.live/shows/yayayi Robert's album: https://open.spotify.com/artist/6y9HtgqNCUTgnemSjTdpO4?autoplay=trueMike's Picks:Sex Bomb Baby (1988) -- Best AlbumAlbum - Generic Flipper (1982) -- Personal FavoriteAmerican Grafishy (1993) -- Worst Album, Least FavoriteAlex's Picks:Album - Generic Flipper (1982) -- Best AlbumGone Fishin' (1984) -- Personal FavoritePublic Flipper Limited (1986) -- Worst Album, Least FavoriteRobert's Picks:Album - Generic Flipper (1982) -- Best AlbumSex Bomb Baby (1988) -- Personal FavoriteAmerican Grafishy (1993) -- Worst Album, Least FavoriteAlbums we discussed this episode...Album - Generic Flipper (1982)Blow'n Chunks (1984)Gone Fishin' (1984)Public Flipper Limited (1986)Sex Bomb Baby (1988)American Grafishy (1993)Love (2009)

This week, hosts Reggie Worth and Jason Jefferies are joined by music journalist Corey duBrowa, author of An Ideal for Living: A Celebration of the EP-Extended Play, in a discussion about whether EPs and live albums should be considered in discussion regarding the Album of the Year.  Also discussed are the new releases of 9/13/24, including Rack by The Jesus Lizard, Soft Tissue by Tindersticks, Moon Mirror by Nada Surf, and much more.  Happy Listening!

Keith sits down with David Yow to discuss growing up in Africa, the UK and Texas, early show going experiences including seeing Led Zeppelin in 1977, joining Scratch Acid as their vocalist, some of the band's history, their breakup and the formation of the Jesus Lizard. We also discuss the early days of The Jesus Lizard, recording the debut LP "Head" with Steve Albini, their time on Capitol records, their split release with Nirvana and some gigs they played together, the making of their new LP "Rack", David's acting career and recent roles in "I Don't Feel at Home in This World Anymore" and "Under the Silver Lake", what's next for the Jesus Lizard and more. 

Today, the first Jesus Lizard record release in 26 years goes down, an event that demands celebration. Join No Age's Randy Randall and Discograffiti Host Dave Gebroe as we rate and discuss the entire catalog of one of rock and roll's finest all-time bands. Huge thanks to Ipecac Recordings for making this happen! Listen: https://podfollow.com/1592182331  I support a wife and a five-year-old son with Discograffiti as my sole source of income.  SUBSCRIBE TO DISCOGRAFFITI'S PATREON and receive a ceaseless barrage of must-hear binge-listening! Discograffiti's 4-show-a-week release schedule can be yours for the price of one measly cup of coffee a week. Patreon.com/Discograffiti VENMO GEBROE @David-Gebroe PayPal to davidbgebroe@gmail.com  Even a $1 tip will be massively helpful. Thank you. Order the $11 Digital package of our METAL MACHINE MUZAK double album (feat. Lou Barlow, Cory Hanson, Mark Robinson, & Will Cullen Hart): www.patreon.com/discograffiti/shop/197404 Order the METAL MACHINE MUZAK Double Vinyl: www.patreon.com/discograffiti/shop/169954 Order some choice goods from the Discograffiti Merch Shop: https://discograffitipod.myspreadshop.com/all CONNECT Join our Soldiers of Sound Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1839109176272153 Patreon: www.Patreon.com/Discograffiti Podfollow: ⁠⁠https://podfollow.com/1592182331⁠⁠ YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClyaQCdvDelj5EiKj6IRLhw Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/discograffitipod/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Discograffiti/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/Discograffiti Order the Digital version of the METAL MACHINE MUZAK 2xLP (feat. Lou Barlow, Cory Hanson, Mark Robinson, & W. Cullen Hart): www.patreon.com/discograffiti/shop/197404 Order the $11 Digital version of the MMM 2xLP on Bandcamp: https://discograffiti.bandcamp.com/album/metal-machine-muzak Order the METAL MACHINE MUZAK Double Vinyl + Digital package: www.patreon.com/discograffiti/shop/169954 Merch Shop: https://discograffitipod.myspreadshop.com/all Venmo Dave A Tip: @David-Gebroe Web site: http://discograffiti.com/ CONTACT DAVE Email: dave@discograffiti.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hooligandave Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/davidgebroe/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/DaveGebroe #music #metalmachinemuzak #soldiersofsound #discograffiti #peoplehelpingpeople #dragcity #noage #thesmell #jesuslizard #davidyow #thejesuslizard #lizard #noiserock #scratchacid #vinyl #melvins #posthardcore #shellac #vinylcollection #punk #touchandgorecords #stevealbini #postpunk #recordcollection #noise #recordcollector #vinylcommunity #eraser #mouthbreather  --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/discograffiti/support

EVERY OTHER KREATIVE KONTROL EPISODE IS ONLY ACCESSIBLE TO MONTHLY $6 USD PATREON SUPPORTERS. Enjoy this excerpt and please subscribe now via this link to hear this full episode. Thanks!The Jesus Lizard Week '24 concludes with Duane Denison discussing the Jesus Lizard's new album RACK, why Nashville has been so enticing for musicians looking for a home, working as a guitar teacher and providing remote lessons to students, why he thought to employ quality control measures in writing new songs in the Jesus Lizard, whether or not the band ever contemplated making RACK with previous collaborators like the late Steve Albini, some of the guitar players and musical heroes he pays homage to on the new album, his golden era for the Jesus Lizard, touring again, writing new songs, other future plans, and much more.Support vish on Patreon! Thanks to Pizza Trokadero, the Bookshelf, Planet Bean Coffee, and Grandad's Donuts. Support Y.E.S.S., Pride Centre of Edmonton, and Letters to Santa. Follow vish online.Related episodes/links:Ep. #904: Mac McNeilly from The Jesus LizardEp. #903: David Wm. Sims from The Jesus LizardEp. #902: David Yow from The Jesus LizardEp. #170: Andy Gill of Gang of FourEp. #92: The Jesus Lizard Week with David Wm. SimsEp. #91: The Jesus Lizard Week with Duane DenisonEp. #90: The Jesus Lizard Week with Mac McNeillyEp. #89: The Jesus Lizard Week with David YowEp. #9: David YowSupport this show http://supporter.acast.com/kreative-kontrol. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

EVERY OTHER KREATIVE KONTROL EPISODE IS ONLY ACCESSIBLE TO MONTHLY $6 USD PATREON SUPPORTERS. This one is fine, but please subscribe now on Patreon so you never miss full episodes. Thanks!The Jesus Lizard Week '24 is still going with Mac McNeilly discussing the Jesus Lizard's new album RACK, building a home studio, navigating how political correctness and being decent to other people works, his interest in preserving vintage drums and teaching music students, why he left the Jesus Lizard when he did and why he came back, the stamina and fitness it takes to play drums in this band, how he came up with his parts on RACK, touring again, other future plans, and much more. Support vish on Patreon! Thanks to Pizza Trokadero, the Bookshelf, Planet Bean Coffee, and Grandad's Donuts. Support Y.E.S.S., Pride Centre of Edmonton, and Letters to Santa. Follow vish online.Related episodes/links:Ep. #903: David Wm. Sims from The Jesus LizardEp. #902: David Yow from The Jesus LizardEp. #170: Andy Gill of Gang of FourEp. #92: The Jesus Lizard Week with David Wm. SimsEp. #91: The Jesus Lizard Week with Duane DenisonEp. #90: The Jesus Lizard Week with Mac McNeillyEp. #89: The Jesus Lizard Week with David YowEp. #9: David YowSupport this show http://supporter.acast.com/kreative-kontrol. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It's nice to be back!  Vacation is over and school is officially in session, as Duane Denison is here this week to drop a ton of knowledge on us.  Not only is his legendary band, The Jesus Lizard, releasing a new album this Friday, but he was kind enough to swing through and chat all things songwriting, maintaining integrity as a band, gear, and much more. Their new album "RACK" will be available wherever you listen to music via Ipecac Recordings The Jesus Lizard will also be hitting the road later this year, and you would be a fool to sleep on one of their shows.  Check their dates HERE If you want early access to these episodes like this, head over to the Rigs of Dad Patreon Page where you can also hear more unedited, ad-free interviews with previous guests, patreon exclusives, and beyond! PLUS early access to other episodes.  AND billing has been paused for the month of July. Rad things: If you are in a band and are looking to cut shortcuts in developing a website, no company can help you more than SUPERTAPE.com.  It is the easiest way to streamline your entire online presence from merch sales to video, press, and beyond... ALL done with only a few clicks.   Big shout out to the homies at www.shearrevival.com Take care of yourself.  Look good, smell good, and feel good.  Treat your body and neighbor's nose with love using Shear Revival!  Use the code CLEANTONE10 to get 10% off your next order!   Huge loves to the incredible Sacha Dunable from Dunable Guitars.  The guys is building the absolute BEST axes in the game and I am a firm believer that EVERYONE needs to own one.  Check out www.dunableguitars.com if you need some real tone in your life. Much love to the fine folks at Custom District Pedalboards for allowing me to pack the heaviest tones on the lightest boards.  Get yours over at www.customdistrictpedalboards.com Do you have a ton of guitars?  Does the show not go on unless you have at least three guitars with you?  Then you need to check out Quantum Industries.  These dudes are putting out true tanks of guitar cases.  Check out https://www.quantumindustries.jp/ BE SURE to enter ROD10 for a discount on your order!!!

EVERY OTHER KREATIVE KONTROL EPISODE IS ONLY ACCESSIBLE TO MONTHLY $6 USD PATREON SUPPORTERS. Enjoy this excerpt and please subscribe now via this link to hear this full episode. Thanks!The Jesus Lizard Week '24 continues with David Wm. Sims discussing the band's new album RACK, recent music festival experiences, the significance of the Jesus Lizard's close friendships, his own golden era in the band, how and why they chose to write and record RACK the way they did, what may become of the songs that were captured but didn't make the album, his penchant for coming up with fresh bass parts by playing along to music made by people like War and Wu-Tang Clan, why he is contemplating moving out of the United States of America, upcoming tour dates, other future plans, and much more. Support vish on Patreon! Thanks to Pizza Trokadero, the Bookshelf, Planet Bean Coffee, and Grandad's Donuts. Support Y.E.S.S., Pride Centre of Edmonton, and Letters to Santa. Follow vish online.Related episodes/links:Ep. #902: David Yow from The Jesus LizardEp. #844: Pissed JeansEp. #170: Andy Gill of Gang of FourEp. #92: The Jesus Lizard Week with David Wm. SimsEp. #91: The Jesus Lizard Week with Duane DenisonEp. #90: The Jesus Lizard Week with Mac McNeillyEp. #89: The Jesus Lizard Week with David YowEp. #9: David YowSupport this show http://supporter.acast.com/kreative-kontrol. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week we're discussing Rack, the latest album by The Jesus Lizard and their first in 26 years. None of us saw this album coming and the return of one of the greatest noise rock bands of all-time is a welcome one. Rack shows David Yow, Duane Denison, David Wm. Sims, and Mac McNeilly returning to their roots, as well as venturing into fairly uncharted musical territory. We were not disappointed and it deserves a listen by any fans of the band. Don't forget to check out our full episode on The Jesus Lizard if you haven't already (episode 142).Closing track: "Alexis Feels Sick"Patreonhttps://www.patreon.com/everyalbumeverMerchhttps://pandermonkey.creator-spring.com/Mike's EP:Pander Monkey on Bandcamp, Spotify, Apple,Instagram:Mike @pandermonkeyAlex @everyalbumalexTom @tomosmansoundsHistory Tom's stuff:Music on Spotify, ApplePodcast on Spotify, YouTube, AppleSubstackWebsite

EVERY OTHER KREATIVE KONTROL EPISODE IS ONLY ACCESSIBLE TO MONTHLY $6 USD PATREON SUPPORTERS. This one is fine, but please subscribe now on Patreon so you never miss full episodes. Thanks!The Jesus Lizard Week '24 begins with David Yow discussing the Jesus Lizard's new album RACK, loving Los Angeles but moving out of the United States of America, his writing practice these days and those few but notable people who've contributed to lyrics in the Jesus Lizard over the years, how the late Lhasa de Sela and also Led Zeppelin influenced his vocals and writing on RACK, working on his singing in his old band Qui, and how he almost fronted a reconstituted Nirvana for an event a few years ago, other future plans, and much more. Support vish on Patreon! Thanks to Blackbyrd Myoozik, Pizza Trokadero, the Bookshelf, Planet Bean Coffee, and Grandad's Donuts. Support Y.E.S.S., Pride Centre of Edmonton, and Letters to Santa. Follow vish online.Related episodes/links:Ep. #844: Pissed JeansEp. #170: Andy Gill of Gang of FourEp. #92: The Jesus Lizard Week with David Wm. SimsEp. #91: The Jesus Lizard Week with Duane DenisonEp. #90: The Jesus Lizard Week with Mac McNeillyEp. #89: The Jesus Lizard Week with David YowEp. #9: David YowSupport this show http://supporter.acast.com/kreative-kontrol. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week's show, after a 1993 Catherine Wheel croon: brand new Nada Surf, Successful Failures, Fastbacks, Tears Run Rings, Sansyou, Jesus Lizard, and The Chords U.K., plus The Squires, John Lennon, Stealers Wheel, Hank Thompson, Upsetters, Bert Jansch...

For the CBBP 300th Episode, The Jesus Lizard drummer Mac McNeilly talks about their new record “Rack” and the process of recording it, revisits their records chronologically- from Head to Shot ,playing along to Deep Purple & Black Sabbath in his early years (and the genius of Bill Ward), Jody's first impression of the band via a cassette tape of Liar, having Steve Albini cranking the shit out of their live sound as their live Front of House Sound Engineer, his exit front band in 96', getting struck by lightning, digging Captain Beyond, Yes & King Crimson and other highlights from the Jesus Lizard “Book”, & how vocalist David Yow is “not what you'd call a shy person”.PIC: Doug Coombe

This week we're discussing every album by Dazzling Killmen. While they were peers of bands like Scratch Acid and the Jesus Lizard, and worked with Steve Albini numerous times, the Killmen were impossible to compare. Equal parts noise rock, punk, and math rock, their music is ferocious, complex, and unmeasurably tight. If you're into noisy aggressive music at all, you simply must hear them. They are legends who don't get nearly enough credit.Closing track: "Agitator" from Face of Collapse (1994)Patreonhttps://www.patreon.com/everyalbumeverMerchhttps://pandermonkey.creator-spring.com/Mike's EP:Pander Monkey on Bandcamp, Spotify, Apple,Instagram:Mike @pandermonkeyAlex @everyalbumalexTom @tomosmansoundsHistory Tom's stuff:Music on Spotify, ApplePodcast on Spotify, YouTubeSubstackWebsiteMike and Alex's Picks:Face of Collapse (1994) -- Best Album, Personal FavoriteRecuerda (1996) -- Worst Album, Least FavoriteAlbums we discussed this episode...Dig Out the Switch (1992)Face of Collapse (1994)Recuerda (1996)

The Jesus Lizard is back! The band is set to release “Rack” on September 13, their first new album of new music since “Blue” (1998).   TJL guitarist Duane Denison joins me for a conversation about the new album, the early Chicago days, and whether “Rack” and a lengthy tour are signs of what's to come for the band.   In Chicago? Don't miss the Jesus Lizard's return: they'll be playing the Warm Love Cool Dreams festival at Salt Shed on September 28.   While I'm on the topic of the Jesus Lizard's live show, I've always loved this quote from John Haggerty (Pegboy/Naked Raygun) about an especially memorable night:  “They're playing; they get through about two or three songs, and a full bottle of beer comes shooting from the back of the audience, hits Dave Yow square in the head. He goes down like a ton of bricks. He's out cold, like a light. The band keeps playing for a little while, then they realize he's not going to get up. So they stop playing. There's a bunch of sauntering about—what are we going to do? What's happening? It went on for what seemed like a really long time, but I'm sure it was only two or three minutes. After this extended period of time, being passed out cold on the floor, he gets up and he says, ‘Nice shot, asshole.' Before the word ‘asshole' was even out of his mouth, they were into the next song and they just continued as if nothing had happened.” Photo credit: Joshua Black Wilkins   ##   A smart home connects virtually all of the technology in your home.  With an Easy Automation-installed smart home system, you and your family can control nearly every device and system in the house in ways that are easy and fun to use.   Transform your living space with cutting-edge home automation. Experience seamless control over audio/video, lighting, climate, security, and more. Embrace the future of smart living – your home, your rules.   Get a quote by visiting Easy-automation.net, or call Dan at 630.730.3728See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

When people think of Electrical Audio Recording in Chicago they usually only think of the late, great Steve Albini. But the studio is (and has been) home to a distinguished troop of engineers and operators that continue to keep the venerable institution running — including our pal Greg Norman, who's been doing the Lord's work over at Electrical since he LITERALLY helped lay the foundation of the studio building before the opening of its doors in 1997. On this episode we talk about sneaking into Shorty shows at Lounge Ax, Albini's tighty whities, Adobe bricks, Alain Delon's dog, The Jesus Lizard, The White Album, Steely Dan, broken Calrec Soundfield mics, and WHAT'S THE BEST?!? recording production.

Welcome to the final part of WorkTape's deep dive into 1994, a year that delivered some of the most iconic albums in alternative and hip-hop. In this edition, we discuss the timeless beauty of Jeff Buckley's "Grace", the underground grit of The Jesus Lizard's "Down", and the raw energy of Hole's "Live Through This". We also reflect on standout grunge releases from bands like Soundgarden and Pearl Jam, and the cultural impact of Oasis' debut album "Definitely Maybe". Join us as we wrap up this nostalgic journey through a pivotal year in music.Episode Highlights:Was Hole's "Live Through This" merely a Nirvana “rip-off”?What made Soundgarden's "Superunknown" a standout grunge album?How did Pearl Jam's "Vitology" contribute to their 90s legacy?Was Oasis' Definitely Maybe the edgier counterpart to "(What's the Story) Morning Glory?"?Have Gorillaz turned out to be a better effort from Damon Albarn than Blur?How did "Monster" mark a turning point for REM?

This week on the show jD welcomes Vish from his own Kreative Kontrol, if you haven't checked it out get after it!Vish discusses song 18 and shares his Pavement origin story.Transcript:Track 1:[0:00] Previously on the Pavement Top 50.Track 2:[0:02] This week we're going deep on Box Elder. How are you feeling about song number 19, Kyra, from the COWI? I fucking love Box Elder so much. It's a great song. It's one of the earlier Pavement songs. I think it's a very early Pavement song, which is cool. And it's one that really holds up.Track 1:[0:25] I think, too. you. Hey, this is Westy from the Rock and Roll Band Pavement, and you're listening to The Countdown.Track 3:[0:34] Hey, it's JD here, back for another episode of our Top 50 Countdown for Seminole Indie Rock Band Pavement. Week over week, we're going to count down the 50 essential pavement tracks that you selected with your very own top 20 ballads. I then tabulated the results using an abacus, a wet towel, and some scrawny kid from 10th grade gym class. How will your favorite songs fare in the rankings? You'll need to tune in to find out. So there's that. This week I'm joined by Pavement superfan Vish from Creative Control with Vish Khanna. Dude, thanks for taking some time to do this. It means a lot. How the hell are you doing? I'm well, JD. Thanks for having me on your show. How are you doing? I'm great today. It's a little overcast here, but it's about five degrees so i'm gonna go for a walk later and uh.Track 3:[1:24] And that's a, that's, those are good times for me. Very nice. That's good. Going outside. Can't beat it. Yeah. No, you can't at all. Well, let's not beat around the bush, speaking of beat it, and get right into your Pavement Origins story.Track 3:[1:38] Talk to me about that, Vish. Well, I was trying to, you know, I knew I was coming on your show, so I figured I should try to ponder this, you know, and I, I was trying to remember. Remember, I think I first came upon the band when I read about them in Spin Magazine, like, I think before Crooked Rain came out. And I don't know what it was about that piece. This is right around the time I started getting to go to record stores. You know, I'm, what would I have been then? I would have been 15, 16. Some of us were driving so we could leave Cambridge, Ontario, where I'm from, and we could go to Kitchener and Waterloo and Toronto. They had the cooler record stores those were like uh college university towns so then we started going to record stores and then you start talking to the record store people and they tell you what they like and you respect them because they're your surrogate parents so somebody somebody somewhere along the line told me about pavement i i'm pretty sure it was the spin magazine article that i was i started devouring more and more music journalism and i think it was that so i remember owning uh slanted and enchanted and also uh the record store had the trigger cut single so i think i bought both things and i'm fairly certain about both things and uh i will say that that first single got me completely obsessed with their singles um because i think they're.Track 3:[3:07] I don't know, they're one of the greatest treasure troves of any band I can think of. I know you've probably talked about this with others, but I really value Pavement B-Sides. Like, I wasn't that surprised. I mean, I was surprised that Harness Your Hopes went kind of bonkers recently, but like, I'm not surprised. Like, Pavement B-Sides, I know some of them better than I know the album songs, to be honest with you. I just became so obsessed with how great, like, the the quality of their B-sides really spoke to me. And then, yeah, that's one of the, and then I feel like that was a gateway into like, what is Silver Jews? Like, why is this, what is Silver Jews in the pavement section? What is it? Oh, it's a, it's a project. Oh, there's Bob and Steve on the back of the album covers. So they're in this, I guess. And so, yeah, the B-side alternate pavement universe if you will really spoke to me and still does uh i find myself uh kind of you know mumbling song lyrics and and tunes and melodies from you know humming them from from all the b-side so yeah i i would i would position myself that way as someone who i get a little obsessive so it wasn't just the album uh the albums it was like i want to get all the singles so i owned every single.Track 3:[4:24] On mostly on compact disc when i was coming up of age and now i've got them all on actually you know what i ordered i ordered that thing that you ordered the box that i ordered the singles box that i have a bunch of them but i was like what the hell i'm gonna do it so the book looks good yeah everything about it looks good i love pavement so uh i just thought i would get that too and uh yeah i think that's pretty much it that's where i discovered them and then of course they blew up uh you know they're one of those bands that all your cool uh heroes were talking talking about before you even heard them you know so you'd read a interview with somebody you liked and they'd mention pavements you're like what is this pavement so really have a time and place for me word of mouth and then actually digging in i have still a sense memory of playing slanted and enchanted and hearing summer babe and you're just like what the hell so yeah i'd say that's that that that's that's got to be it i think that's it and you got to be there for the release of watery then did you as somebody who was like sort of ep and single obsessed did you pick that up when it came out i did i did pick it up i don't know if i got it right when it came out i can't say that for sure because i feel like i still came to them a little bit later um because i'm sure they were that article was 93 like i don't think it was about slanted it was just mentioned so but i got it yeah and as you may have heard me talk about it's yeah it's my it's like my favorite thing, really, in some ways. I love, and yeah, I miss Gary Young.Track 3:[5:51] I never got to meet or talk to Gary Young, but yeah, the drumming as a drummer as well, as a budding drummer, like hearing Gary's playing, that had a huge influence on me too. So yeah, that era. Put your finger on what it is, isn't it?Track 3:[6:06] Like, what it is about Gary's drumming. I love Westy. I love him. He's a great guy, and he's a great drummer. But there's something about Gary. There's something about the looseness and the showmanship of people like Gary Young. I would say here in Canada, we have Mark Gaudette, who was in Eric's trip, and his drumming, too. Like, it's punk rock, but it's a bit more technical. And it's precise, but it's loose. And it just has it. He's making an instrument. you know they have their own voice i suppose as drummers they have their own like you hear it and you're like oh that's that's that's either gary or as i mentioned mark for two examples uh or it's someone copying them you know it's someone someone kind of ripping them off so i certainly was of this learning how to play the instrument and getting into some really amazing drummers at the time uh just because i didn't take drum lessons i would just listen to things or go see bands and And certain people and their drumming had a huge impact on me. And certainly early pavement drumming, you know, I think it's an underrated facet of that band. Did you get a chance to see the Gary Dock?Track 3:[7:18] No, you know what? I haven't seen that doc. That's a good call. I've been rather swamped of late and I need to do that. Have you seen it? Yeah, it's really, it's, it's pretty fabulous. Yeah, I can imagine. You're right. I should, I don't know. I'm at a thing where I got to do so much and I process so much information and music and I can't keep up with everything. So yeah, I saw it come through and I was like, yeah, I will watch that eventually. And then before you know it, I don't think I'm alone in this where there's just so much stuff to consume, but yeah, good Good call. Good call. I'll try to track it down on, I don't know if it's on a thing, a service or whatever, a streaming service, but I'll try and watch that. Yeah, I think it is because I don't know how I would have seen it. I forgot. Yeah. Um, when, when did you finally get to, uh, see them live or did you see them live in the original sort of run? I saw them for the first time in Barrie, Ontario at Lollapalooza in 1995. This was the. Wow. Lollapalooza curated by Sonic Youth.Track 3:[8:18] So also on the bill was, it was supposed to be Sinead, or sorry, it was supposed, yeah, it was supposed to be Sinead O'Connor, but I think I attended the first show that she couldn't play because she was pregnant. And so Elastica filled in, but the day was like a mighty, mighty Boston's first time I got to see the Jesus lizard. Blizzard, uh, uh, Pavement obviously played during the day, uh, Hole played. Beck was on the lineup too, wasn't he? Yeah, I saw Beck play two sets, one on the main stage, uh, this was just ahead, uh, ahead of Odile coming up, and, um, he also did a side stage, uh, performance where I actually spoke to him, he, he came down and, uh, signed autographs, so he signed, I don't know where it is but he signed my Lollapalooza ticket stub and I asked him I actually I think I, I tripped him out a little because I'd heard that he was going to be collaborating with a Toronto musician. And when I mentioned it, he was like, oh, yeah, we have been talking about that. Like he was I kind of nardwired him.Track 3:[9:23] I didn't mean it was just a rumor. I just said it. And he was like, oh, yeah, we were talking about that. So anyway. Yeah. So, yeah. And the Far Side played and Moby played and all sorts of amazing eclectic. Yeah. Yeah, Cypress Hill was one of the headliners. Bob Nastanovich, when he was on my show, I did a little documentary about Bright in the Corners. And he talked extensively about their experiences with some of the artists and their experiences playing Lollapalooza. And Bob's amazing innovation of suggesting that instead of getting a bus, they would each get minivans. He got a great deal in some rental minivans and that way they could play and then just drive ahead to the show and not worry about the gear and all that stuff and and and they could kind of travel at their leisure and uh yeah anyway so Lollapalooza 95 is the first show then I saw them at the Phoenix in Toronto for the Bright in the Corners tour and then I saw them play uh you remember the cool house and the, sorry, for those wondering in Toronto.Track 3:[10:33] There was a venue and it had two rooms. It was called the Warehouse. And then beside it was something called the Government, a smaller room. And then the Warehouse became, it was like the RPM Warehouse or something like that. That's right. And then it changed names. It was the Cool House, but I think the Government was still there. So for Terror Twilight, as I recall, Pavement played the Government. So the smaller room on that tour. So I saw them there. And then I saw them on Toronto Island on the first reunion tour with the Broken Social scene.Track 3:[11:08] And I think that's the last time I was invited or I was supposed to go see them in Austin, Texas. And Bob hooked me up. And I think I might have even been able to attend the Austin City Limits taping. But unfortunately, I couldn't make it at the last minute. So that was a bit of a bummer. But I regret it. But, you know, it was weird, still weird pandemic times then. And I, I think there was also other stuff going on. So I didn't get to see them on this current reunion, but it still seems to be going as we're speaking. So who knows?Track 3:[11:42] Maybe I can see them somehow. now yeah yeah and we are recording this in early april so yeah there's we're not uh that's not a scoop people just in case you're listening to this in october and you're like oh christ they're coming back um they may they very may well be i just edited the bob episode and you know i sort of teased him because he's like we're done after south america and i was like come on come on yeah i'll believe you're done when i when when you're done yeah but um enough about me back to you uh i'm curious about the lola performance like so you got to see them in a government isn't intimate but it's nice um and then you got to see them in um lollapalooza in front of a big crowd what do you think of the the festival version of pavement well i mean obviously it's well documented that they didn't have the best time on that tour on some level uh in slow century there's obviously the the fracas uh you know uh where people are throwing mud at them and all sorts of a rock at steven actually uh you know i i was a kid i mean that was sensory overload i i was just going to how old was I? So 95 I was had I even turned.Track 3:[13:08] Yeah, I was not even, what was I, seven, 16 or something like that? I don't know. I was not an old, I was young. You were 76? No, wait a minute. Yeah, I was 17. So I was born, no, I was born in 77. So I hadn't yet turned 18. So I was 17. And yeah, it was just, that was a bonkers year, to be honest with you. That summer, I went to everything. I went to so many festivals.Track 3:[13:31] For all my bellyaching about my parents not letting me do stuff, they let me do a lot of stuff that summer so uh yeah i don't i think i was just overwhelmed by how many people were surrounding me and and and i got up as close as i could for pavement um and we got up really close like seeing the jesus lizard was a bit i love the jesus lizard already at that point i just love them and to see them was like they were larger than life and you know yeah for those who've never seen them or footage of them at that point, Yao would come into the crowd, you know, he would leap off the stage and crowd surf and all that kind of stuff and sing while he was doing it. So it was very immersive. And then Pavement, relatively the opposite, you know, they're on stage and the songs are great and they played well, as I recall. But on some level, I remember just making a point of getting up as close as possible and trying not to, at the same time, you know, be conscious of not bothering people as you move your way up, you know, because I was kind of annoyed at everyone running around and pushing their way forward and all that stuff. So, uh... Never made sense to me. Yeah, it just... That's my main memory of just, like, trying to... I was probably... For the Jesus Lizard and Pavement, I was probably... That was the closest I was probably, uh, to the stage. And, uh... And then otherwise, yeah, I don't know. I mean, I have...Track 3:[14:57] I have a real sense memory of the Phoenix show for Bright in the Corners for a few reasons. And I've talked about them with Bob, at least.Track 3:[15:05] Bob did an interpolation of a Cool Keith song, which I just, I was like, oh, I didn't know people knew about Cool Keith. Like I had only started listening to Cool Keith at that time. And he did. I have no clue. blue cool keith is a a really uh innovative uh underground hip-hop superstar he was in a group called ultra magnetic mcs and then he went solo as dr octagon and as cool keith has all these pseudonyms and uh to be precise uh and oh yeah black elvis like he had all these cool names so to be precise i believe as i recall bob was quoting dr the dr octagon project and he just did it in the middle of a song and then also the other thing that occurred to me and it's sort of relevant to the song today is during uh stereo when steven malcolm is saying the lines about getty lee and his voice being so high he shot his voice up super high like a comically high effect how did it get so like just pitch perfect super high i think it's i think it's documented in a much music interview that they did that day or whatever, like while they were in town. And then obviously afterwards, they interspersed some live footage of the band playing.Track 3:[16:26] And Stephen singing, you know, on this song that we're here to talk about today is so remarkable to me. And I remember that I had this sense memory of him singing that and thinking it was very amusing. I thought it was more amusing than impressive at the time. but over over time as i um have come to value steven's singing voice and his range and his ability, And just instincts as a singer, I view it as more impressive now than, I still think it's funny because I think he's got a comical element to his choices and certainly live anything can happen, but they were just, I think that Bright in the Corner show is the, it's certainly one of the best shows I've ever seen. So I would also say it's one of the, if not the, it was the best time I saw Pavement probably. Oh, that's a great venue. That's what I, that's, I think the Phoenix is phenomenal. I don't want to discount the reunion show I saw because I think with age and time away from each other, they actually have, I don't know, I don't know how many reunion shows you've seen, but often I find that these bands that, particularly for us, you know, the bands around in the 90s, when they come back, they're better. Yeah. They seem more at ease with themselves as people and as players.Track 3:[17:45] And so the absence, I don't know what it is. They just seem more relaxed. And I think when you're more relaxed, you play better. I think 20-something angst, we'll call it. I think if you're not relaxed with each other, you don't play as well. You're just a little uptight. And then as you sort of resign yourself to, well, not resign yourself, but as you sort of get, yeah, you let go of things. I guess that is a way of putting it. You kind of let go of any little grudges and you don't have that angst, whether it's your own or whether it's about yourself or whether it's interpersonal. And I think you just play better. So when I saw the Jesus Lizard on the reunion tour, having seen them several times in the 90s, I just was like, I think they're better. You know, they might be better. better and pavement as i recall from the toronto island show it felt good they played so well you know together um but up until that point yeah i would say that bright in the corners show i saw at.Track 3:[18:46] The phoenix in toronto was just like they were just on fire it was brilliant so yeah cool yeah well before we get into song number 18 i gotta ask you as one of the only people i know that has interviewed Mark Eibold, the reclusive Mark Eibold, how the hell did you do it? And that interview, by the way, was phenomenal. It was great.Track 3:[19:09] Well, that's very kind of you to say. I have to draw back on my memory for this. So the occasion was the Terror Twilight reissue from a year or two or a couple of years ago, whenever it was. Yeah, who knows? And like you, I think my social entry point into this band is Bob Mstanovich.Track 3:[19:32] Absolutely. So Bob is, uh, I've gone on record saying this to others. I think I said it maybe to him during our terror twilight discussion. Bob is the greatest podcast guest of all time. You don't even have to ask him a question and he starts. He's so funny and he's so frank and he says things that I surprised he might say. I love him so much and he's been very kind to me over the years as well. I first spoke with Bob, uh around the time of that reunion uh tour um uh and so what was that 2009 10 thank you very much yeah sorry i think the jesus lizard was 2009 so yeah i spoke to bob around that period and then we've maintained contact basically ever since that was for my college radio show actually and then so that was here in toronto yes that's right yeah well i lived when i was living in ontario at at the time. Um, I had a college radio show and would play some pavement and Bob was a guest on that show. And he's, and I probably wrote a magazine article for exclaim magazine as well. That's what I do and used to do more often. Anyway. Um.Track 3:[20:43] Yeah. So the Tara Twilight thing came about by this point, Bob and I had, he'd been on my podcast a few times. And so I just, I'm sure I went through the proper channels to get, try to figure out the interview and get the music and the, and you know, all the assets and all that. But Bob, I think I was like, Bob, like, can we get everyone? Let's just get everyone on the show. Probably like you have done, like you just, you know, you're, you're trying to do this now. You're trying to talk to as many of the members as you possibly can. Absolutely. And in the loop. So, yeah, you know, I'm emailing Stephen and I think I texted Stephen because, you know, he wasn't responding.Track 3:[21:22] And so we sort of landed on Westy and Bob and Mark and then Jesper, who was involved in the reissue for Matador, was going to take part. And then at the day of, Mark couldn't do it. He was in transit. He couldn't join us for the group call. But yeah, Bob connected us over email, I believe, and maybe text, I don't recall. And so Mark and I, Mark felt, I think, kind of badly that he couldn't do it, like that he said he would do it and that he didn't end up doing it. And uh i i assume bob vouched for me you know um and so that was kind of it uh really we corresponded uh he felt badly that he couldn't make the group call we arranged a time we had a good talk you heard it uh and then i believe i put it out the right after i had put out that that group call uh so back to back it was like pavement week on my show for terror twilight light. Um, so, uh, yeah, I don't, can't recall cause I do so many of these, uh.Track 3:[22:37] Exactly what mark and i talked about i think we talked about some of his, radio listening habits you did yes he still uses a radio yeah you might actually have a better perspective on it than me at this point because i just don't remember uh you know i jd i'm sure you're familiar with this you do so many of them uh interviews uh episodes you're just like oh yeah, i forgot i had so and so on the show what the hell did we talk about again i that happens to me all the time when i edit i'll be listening and i'll be like it sounds like a conversation between somebody who doubles my voice and my guests because i don't recall virtually anything about what we talked about well i remember realizing it was um a real kind of rarity for mark to do such a thing i think at the time um a sonic youth uh archival compilation had had just come out that mark appeared on so there's just a fair amount to talk about it was a lot of memory jogging unfortunately for him like you know trying to remember the terror twilight sessions trying to remember playing with sonic youth like all about a decade out from doing it you know or more a decade or more 20 years um so uh yeah i i he was very lovely and uh and forthcoming and um.Track 3:[23:59] I really appreciate it. I think I've spoken to everyone but Gary, I suppose. I never got a chance to speak to Gary Young. But in terms of the, I guess, whatever, core or original lineup, yeah, I've talked to all of them at some points in my life. And I hope to talk to them again.Track 3:[24:20] Yeah, I do adore them. So it's, yeah. You can tell. You can really tell. And we should have said this off the top, but Viche is, Creative Control is a podcast, if you haven't listened to it, you should listen to it. If you like music, if you're maybe a bit obsessive about music, Viche does a really phenomenal job of, you know, conversations with famous people. People uh for people who listen to this show you might want to start with some of the david berman stuff because it's it's pretty spectacular and uh and then work your way through the pavement but it's all it's all good from the stuff that i've heard for sure well thank you for the kind words and for saying so yeah i uh i do love doing the show and uh it has uh you know it's granted me access and insight, uh, to, and from people I really, truly admire and adore. And, uh, yeah, I marvel at, uh, what I've been able to, uh, accomplish and get away with, uh, it is, it is, I don't really understand it, but certain people like Bob and others, uh, uh, have a fondness for me and return to the show and all that sort of stuff. And, uh, so yeah, it means a lot. Thanks for saying that. No, no, I should have said it off the top. but uh what do you say we talk about the the song this week song number 18 let's do it okay we'll be back right after this hey.Track 1:[25:48] This is bob mistanovich from pavement uh thanks for listening and now on with a countdown 18.Track 3:[29:27] So today we're talking all about song number 18 from the masterpiece Wowie Zowie. It's the absolutely gorgeous Father to a Sister of Thought. Vish, what are your initial thoughts about this song? Well, you know, I was so happy that we landed on this as a song to talk about because I do love Wowie Zowie. I have a sense memory of picking it up when it came out. I think the day it came out. um and um obviously a strange sort of a strange record uh an eclectic record uh and this is interesting it's a really fascinating song because in some ways it's super accessible uh musically it leans with the pedal steel and some of the other moves it leans towards country music.Track 3:[30:18] I will say, as I was pondering it, I mean, I know we are in a vacuum here of people who love Pavement and who love Stephen Malcomus, but as I was listening to this in preparation for our chat, I'm like, Malcomus is like an underrated everything. I really feel that way. And in particular, I think he's a remarkable singer. And, you know.Track 3:[30:51] And this song, I think, exemplifies that. He makes super fascinating choices with his phrasing, I think, and just the notes he's going to go for on words. Like, I don't know how to put it. I'm not super adept at maybe talking about music on that level. But it's just very dynamic, the way he shoots his voice up and sort of speaks, sings one line.Track 3:[31:17] And I think aside from missing his sort of grittiness, he also is a great screamer, great yeller. He really is. Like Paul McCartney level dynamic range, I think, with Steven when he wants to. Like he can sing. I don't know if that resonates with you. Like McCartney, to me, can sing anything. He can sing a ballad. He can sing like a Little Richard Rocker and sound like a punk. Like it's bonkers, that guy's vocal range. And I think Malcomus is in that, totally in that vein. So he's not yelling on this song but i think if anyone is interested like this song is a perfect showcase for what he can do as a vocalist and before i go much further jd does that resonate with you it certainly does i when i think of this song you know the word i used right off the bat was gorgeous uh and it's gorgeous in a number of ways the vocal the melody uh like his ability as a songwriter. I don't know how much of the arranging he did, or if it was Easley who said, let's use this pedal steel.Track 3:[32:25] But nevertheless, it just works so well with the timbre of his voice. And it all comes together in a really lovely ball.Track 3:[32:36] Yeah, and I think the little contrarian aspect to, or I don't know how to describe it, this little element of, yeah, it's a little contrary, I think, you know, I don't think I'm saying anything untoward where there's an element of self-sabotage sometimes in the pavement realm where everything's going fine, and then all of a sudden, let's pull the plug and do something wild and nuts or crazy, you know what I mean? And then yeah so this song has this really jaunty country vibe and then it ends with this like, minimalist noise rock stomp damn yeah yeah yeah like it gets it suddenly becomes a little more punk after the sort of so it's kind of this and it's all part of this it's that end it has nothing to do with anything else we've heard no instrumentally nothing but it works like it works so perfectly and i think it's a way of being like all right i think i think we're getting a little saccharin here it's too gentle or something let's end a little more raucous and uh so to me i hadn't really pondered it as such before but between malchumus i think singing his ass off and and really showing his range uh the band also ends up playing very dynamically and really beautifully and and also grit like as i say there's some grit towards the end so in a weird way.Track 3:[34:03] And again i hadn't thought of it like this was a single as i recall um like there was a video for it and whatnot and they're all dressed up in like country western garb and all these sorts of things, but uh no it's a nice exemplification like this is a pretty good gateway in the pavement if you were like yeah listen to this song again you never heard of this band try this song just try it it's got humor it's enigmatic lyrically the arrangement itself is beautiful but funny uh yeah i i really think uh 18 this should be in the top five it's really wonderful wow yeah i would have it in my top 10 yeah i know you top 10 sure i don't know what these ratings mean i don't believe in ratings and awards but it's water cooler talk no it's i'm just saying as i think about it more first of all uh anyone out there listening uh once i dig into a topic i get a little excitable. So, uh, you can make the argument like, what about these other 10 songs? And I'd be like, yeah, yeah, those are also great. But this, this to me, I think, as I say, it's got a nice balance of earnestness, irreverence, beautiful singing, wonderful playing. Uh, yeah, I just think all across the board, it's beautiful. Yeah. Uh, well said.Track 3:[35:20] When you think back to buying Wowie Zowie, you said you got it on the day it came out. First of all, that's very cool.Track 3:[35:29] And second of all, I wonder, just to go on a tangent for a moment.Track 3:[35:34] I wonder if your penchant for B-sides helped you with that record. Because it's almost constructed to me where there's like a song and then more of a b-side song than a song than more of a b-side song uh you know i'm thinking like brink's job and and and stuff like that um yeah you know so that that would have really helped but what were you thinking the first time and this is asking you to really stretch your brain i apologize but what were you thinking the first time you heard this song on this wicked roller coaster ride of a record you know what it's i know this song gets come or rather the album why always how he gets compared a lot to the white album sure by the beatles um who are from liverpool uh and are no longer around but they were uh that album was um i think it's rightly regarded as this uh odd pastiche niche of sounds and ideas and somehow it it only coheres because contextually they made it cohere like it doesn't really make a ton of sense as an album but it's one of those albums where like i couldn't tell you what the best song on it is because i almost view it conceptually as a whole Oh, wow. Wow. So, there's some of it, like, you can, there are singles from it and whatnot.Track 3:[37:01] But I have a weird, this is more about me, I suppose, JD, than maybe most people, but like, I'm an albums person. So, when an artist or a band puts out an album, I assume, rightly or wrongly, in some cases it's not the case, but I assume it's a unified statement that they're making of a time, of.Track 3:[37:25] Rolling Stones, certain bands, you'll be like, yeah, this album is actually like odds and sods from the previous couple of albums that they just reworked or whatever, revisited. Um, and they still count as albums, you know, certainly Stones in the seventies, you can make that argument. There's a few records where, yeah, like just what I'm describing, it's an album, but it's really like leftovers from some ideas they had. Um, I would put Wowie Zowie in that white album category of like, it's a whole thing. Like, the way it's sequenced, the way songs blend together.Track 3:[38:04] As soon as you hear an artist do that, where the songs kind of barely, there's barely any air between them. Right. That's a sequencing choice. That's a mastering choice. That's all sorts of choices they're making. but there's then tends to be this coherence between them this isn't the case all across wowie zowie but there are songs as you know where it's just the next one just starts you're just right into another song um so it becomes a sort of sweet like thing all this to say uh i might be stalling to answer your question because i haven't listened to the whole album in some time this is going to prompt me to i listened to this song on its own and i will say it was a bit weird.Track 3:[38:48] To hear it on its own because i don't listen to pavement sorry as i've tried to just maybe exemplify i generally don't listen to um bands i got a friend pointed out to me a few years ago he was we were in a band together and he said yeah you once said you don't like greatest hits compilations i said i said that said yeah we were driving we were listening to like acdc or something and you were just it came up in conversation and you said you don't like greatest hits compilations because the context of the music is all out of order and i said right that makes sense to me yeah you're i said yeah okay i don't remember saying that sometimes i say things and i don't remember that i said them and i said oh yeah well i mean i said i said it and it stuck with him like he said yeah i've started to listen that way now because you're right like the context of an album is so important to it so when you asked me to be on the show and and suggested uh you know that we were going to talk about this particular song i just listened to it on its own.Track 3:[39:52] Totally weird. Totally weird to hear it out of the album context. So I think going back to my sense memory, I don't know. I mean, it starts with We Dance, which is weird. And then you're right. Some of the songs seem, I mean, to some people, they would seem like half finished ideas. That's right. Right. Or just like little jabs of things, you know. So you're absolutely right too, like Serpentine Pad, Brink's Job, those sound like they could be B-sides, but I would argue that the pavement B-sides are never really, they don't feel like throwaways to me. I agree. Sometimes they're a little looser and more fun, like things happen and that you wouldn't really hear. No I don't even you know what I'm just going to retract that I think they are all fully.Track 3:[40:48] Realized songs that stand on their own but yeah Wowie Zowie I suppose might have been the first sort of inkling that this band could do anything and they weren't afraid to try anything, I'm sure some people were disappointed after Crooked Rain Crooked Rain to hear this, band be a little more punk but also as we're talking about a song that like I say who knows I don't know I I've not really thought about this in a long time but I'm sure making the construction of wowie zowie and the sequencing was potentially a reaction to how much success and how they broke through with crooked rain.Track 3:[41:34] Yeah, I can get behind that thought because, I mean, it's almost outlined in Cut Your Hair, right? Yeah. That's sort of the blueprint for Wowie Zowie in a way. Yeah, like not deliberately self-sabotaging themselves, but being like, we're maybe a little too big. Let's do something a little less accessible. Like, let's do something a little more. I just want to be clear. I think it's brilliant. I don't find it confusing. But if you got into Cut Your Hair or Gold Sounds or got into that band that you saw freak out on The Tonight Show, you know... And then listen to Pueblo. Yeah, yeah. I think you're kind of like... Yeah. You would just be like, as a band, I doubt it was even conscious, but maybe it was. Maybe we should do something that's a little more like wild. And if that was the case, I'm not sure it was, I'm sure there's literature and I should have maybe revisited some of the liner notes and reissues and things to read about where their mindset was at. But, you know, even describing father to a sister of thought, it has that mix of totally, totally accessible. I could play this for my country music loving grandfather, but then it ends with like, Hey, grandpa, we're still kind of a punk band. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah.Track 3:[43:02] Oh, that's great. Going back to the theory of potentially sabotaging themselves, which I'm with you, I don't think they did it on purpose.Track 3:[43:13] I almost think it's like a sound and style change. You're right, Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain was so accessible, and it had a familiar sound. It had sort of a California classic rock kind of vibe to it. It crooked rain is i will interject only to say that i think crooked rain is also super weird.Track 3:[43:35] It is it helped them break through but it is a weird album like it starts weird it has like a full studio sound like it sounds like i know that was made in a bit of a patchwork as well but like it sounds more like a studio record um sure they went they went to a place that that it wasn't going to be noisy and hissy and ambient even though it has elements of that like it has a warmth to it but it's a weird and wildly arranged album too but this is even well coming off a slant coming off a slanted though it seems it just seems more you know readily available i suppose to to a wider birth of people yeah but what i was going to say is it almost reminds me of what sm did when he went solo that first record is so accessible and so poppy and so hooky and so earwormy it's amazing and then he did piglib after that which i fucking adore but it's so off the wall compared to the self-titled debut yeah and if we're viewing malcolm as you know uh obviously obviously the main driver of of their songs then yeah it's it's his whims and it's his.Track 3:[44:50] His notions for a batch of songs like you know i think bright in the corners is uh on some level it's the cleanest sounding pavement album but it's also the most esoteric and and you know i the songs sprawl and they're all over the place as well but it's also somehow more coherent and contained than wowie zowie like but but the songs stretch out that's their what did we talk about with somebody recently uh maybe it was with the pavement guys uh grateful dead type stuff yeah sure yeah like it it has a it's it's a little more zen it's less frenetic even though the imagery and whatnot is pretty intense and some of the arrangements are too so yeah i think it's just modes again this goes back to my argument i love albums i love knowing that we're hearing where a band was at, at that given time. Uh, and, and that, that batch of songs, however, like wowie zowie, however disparate the songs might be from one another, that's what they were into. Like, that's what was going on with them at the time, whether it had anything to do with external considerations or perceptions about who they were, uh, how successful they wanted to be. Like Like, that might just be all bullshit I'm making up. It could just be that's just what he had, what Malcomus and what the band had going.Track 3:[46:18] And this is it. You know, why waste it? This is, it's all over the place. Let's put it out as one thing. The next album, a little, like, I think it's, it's fair to say, uh, Bright in the Corners. Well, you know, maybe it's not fair to say, I'll ask you. Bright in the Corners, probably safe to say a more coherent sounding album than Why We Sowie. Absolutely. Yeah. It's, it's a more album-y album. Right. In a sense. But I also think Slanton and Enchanted all sounds like it's from the same expression, too. Sure, I guess I mean album to album. I just love the way it opens. There's a middle, and then there's an end. There's a finite end with Finn. Yeah yeah well i mean maybe i don't know like we we mentioned lollapalooza uh there was something going on in the in the moment in the cultural moment where you it was really cool to be an open-ended music listener it was really cool to be like yes we're playing with a folk musician we're playing with shanae o'connor and cypress hill on the same day bonkers and the jesus lizard like on some level that is a culture saying everyone is welcome every sound has merit.Track 3:[47:34] We're sick of the orthodoxies we're sick of there being camps um and so maybe wowie zowie reflects that too uh on a musical level it can be noise damaged it can be a beautiful if strange folk song, it can be a country song, it can be a goddamn screamer where Malcolm clearly loses his voice you know, on Half a Canyon or whatever. Like, it's.Track 3:[48:01] Yeah, as we speak of it, I love that album. And like I say, though, I'm having trouble decontextualizing this song from the whole. Right. And that's more about me. But if we really dial into it, when I say this is a good exemplification of Pavement as a whole, maybe it's a good exemplification of Wowie Zowie as a whole. It has that beauty and thoughtful lyricism where you're like, what's he talking about? What's going on? this is really interesting imagery. Is he talking about Corpus Christi, Texas? Or is he talking about Corpus Christi, the kind of event? Like, I remember just thinking right away, why is he singing about Texas? Like, I have that sense memory. And I have this song and some, I'm just a man. Like, I have just little bits of lyrics that are just always with me that I just hum to myself. And yeah, I, this is one of those songs where I just have sort of mindlessly sung it out loud to myself as i'm sort of tooling around my my life you know i don't know if you have that where you just have these lyrical lyrical fragments but this is definitely one of those songs.Track 3:[49:08] And uh i think um yeah it exemplifies both the band and the album in a really fascinating way for me cool well is there anything you want to say uh more about father to a sister of thought or, well you know i'm a lyrics guy and we didn't uh have a chance to get too far into it but i also i know that i mean it's on the surface it seems to be about spirituality and uh people's relationships to that but with malcolm is also you never really know um on some level i think he's spoken about this song and whatnot but um no i don't know all i'll say is i marvel at the guy and i don't think uh he's one of these people i don't think we marvel at enough as a guitar player as a musician as a as a lyricist and particularly on this song as a singer and i hope uh this isn't uh some people don't find this to be a hyperbole but you know i think we take him for granted as He's a vocalist, and this is a great example of what he can do.Track 3:[50:15] Agreed. Well, Vish, it's been dynamite to talk to you today. We went off on a few different directions, and I'm glad we got to do that. Do you want to talk a little bit more about you and the podcast? And I want to say right off the bat that I said it earlier, Creative Control, it's with K's, Creative Control. So if you're searching for it on the Google, you're going to want to spell it correctly. Correctly well thank you thank visha style of correctly well i will uh immediately say that this is a reference to a hot snake song of the same name creative control um so that's why i didn't make up the case thing and now there's like a fashion company called creative control and i think someone like fashions themselves a rapper and they call themselves creative control but they kind of show up and they don't show up i don't know what's going on but anyway yeah that's my show i mean on the internet they'll be like tweeting ramp like rabidly and then they just disappear. And then I don't know what's going on. Anyway. Yeah. Nothing to do. I, Hey, I copped the name from a band I like, so I can't really complain. Complain spelled with a K by the way.Track 3:[51:23] So, uh, yeah, I have this podcast and as we're speaking, uh, you know, it's, it's still going, uh, and it's more important to me than ever because, uh, it is now my main, job at the moment as maybe by October it won't be, but, um.Track 3:[51:41] Yeah, so all I can say is if you support the work of people like me and JD and want to support podcasters, crowdfunding, I don't know about you, JD, and we don't have to talk too much shop, but the advertising revenue is very minimal and it's honestly a little gross. No offense to your sponsors.Track 3:[52:01] I'd rather just not have it. Yeah, I'd rather not have it. But yeah, the crowdfunding and the Patreon that I have is particularly important to me at the moment. So I have different incentives and different tiers and all that kind of stuff, like pay tiers, and it's flexible and monthly and all that kind of stuff. So sorry to make this about the money. We've already talked about some of the content or whatever, like the people I talked to. Yeah, I'm proud of it. It seems to be relentless. It's never going to stop unless I do and stop making it. That sounded morbid. uh by the way if i die the show will likely die too i i just want to be clear about that but no i i love doing the show it's afforded me um some wonderful experiences and both in the conversations and then just from people like you jd reaching out wanting to talk i mean it means a lot to me so thank you for giving me a time to some time to plug and thank you for having me on this wonderful show of yours and for the the lovely conversation it means a lot yeah for me Me too. Thank you so much. All right, everybody, that's what we've got today. So be cool. Make sure you're safe and wash your goddamn hands.Track 1:[53:15] Thanks for listening to Meeting Malcolmists, a pavement podcast where we count down the top 50 pavement tracks as selected by you. If you've got questions or concerns, please shoot me an email. JD at MeetingMalcolmists.com. You.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/meeting-malkmus-a-pavement-podcast/exclusive-contentAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

He first caught our ears with the propulsive lines that drove Austin weirdos Scratch Acid; and then David Wm. Sims - and SA vocalist David Yow - decided to set it all on fire, joining forces with guitarist Duane Denison and drummer Mac McNeilly to form noise rock progenitors Jesus Lizard. Now, 26 years after their last studio album, the quartet has returned with a barn burner of a new album, “Rack” (Ipecac), coming out September 13th, and a slew of tour dates. Tune in to find out what makes David, and the band, click, what made them return, and, perhaps, the secret to his much-coveted bass sound and style. This episode is brought to you by "The Bastard Instrument: A Cultural History of the Electric Bass," the essential new book that illuminates the origins and impact of our beloved instrument in all its glory. An amazing read. Buy it at Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/Bastard-Instrument-Cultural-Electric-Tracking/dp/0472056816/) or your favorite book slinger. And check out author Brian F. Wright's amazing website (https://www.brianfwright.com/) for unreleased content from the book and more of his writing. We have a short interview snip with Brian - listen in for a chance to win your OWN copy of the book, too - but you have to answer a trivia question to enter. Jesus Lizard (https://thejesuslizard.bandcamp.com/) Scratch Acid (https://scratchacid.bandcamp.com/) unFact (https://unfact.bandcamp.com/album/bleached-valentine) Jesus Lizard Tour Dates (https://www.ticketmaster.com/the-jesus-lizard-tickets/artist/1131990) Jesus Lizard Book (https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Lizard-Book/dp/1617750808)

David Yow discusses "RACK", the first Jesus Lizard album in 26 years, his acting career, stage vs. screen, dangerous moments of live performances & more! Topic Include: David Yow meets Skater the cat Penny the cat meets Skater “Rack” is the first album in 26 years Releases on Touch and Go and Ipecac Inspiring bands and albums for David Being inspired by punk bands in Austin Taking inspiration from The Incredible Shrinking Dickies Starting with bass then moving to vocals with Scratch Acid Coming up in a scene alongside Butthole Surfers Avoiding a musical speed trap Skater asks David a question Mixing the vocals lower in the mix Steve Albini's awareness of new album Talk of having Steve Albini's ashes in space What is David's signature dish? Is David a good handyman? Does David miss performing in downtimes for his bands? Comparing playing live with acting An actor's job is to make the director's dream come true Good chance of tour dates in Japan and Australia Acting in FREE L.S.D. movie Does he have a different persona for the stage? Preparation for a live show – involves beers The most dangerous performance of his career The band thought David was dead Does David know his limits for performance? The Jesus Lizard show at Garden Amp – June 2024 Any apprehension about extending the Jesus Lizard catalogue with “Rack”? The process for song writing for “Rack” David isn't the person who tracks the master tapes Random find of Scratch Acid tapes in an Oklahoma warehouse Engineer/Producer SPOT part of the Austin scene Making all Jesus Lizard albums with 4-letter words What were alternative titles before “Rack” was decided There probably won't be another Jesus Lizard album Does David have a record collection? What does he collect? “Tonight You Look Like a Spider” Monolith edition Making physical items, sculptures The cover art of “RACK” Holes in the backstory of “Hide & Seek” It's good to have mystery in lyrics The story of the Nirvana / Jesus Lizard split 7” Interview wrap up Order the new Jesus Lizard LP "RACK" here. Order the "FREE LSD" Blu-Ray and CD package here Extended, Commercial-Free & High Resolution version of this podcast is available at: www.Patreon.com/VinylGuide Listen on Apple: https://apple.co/2Y6ORU0 Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/36qhlc8

Duane Denison is a songwriter, guitarist and founding member of Tomahawk, The Denison/Kimball Trio and most notable and widely influential, The Jesus Lizard. The Jesus Lizard have recorded six studio albums, two live recordings and a brace of singles and EPs, with the band's seventh album, Rack, out September 13 via Ipecac Recordings. Armed with their never dusty, always furious chops, The Jesus Lizard will support Rack with both national and international touring throughout 2024 and 25.  Duane share's his early relationship with music, why he decided to pick up a guitar and his path from classical training, to heavy, angular rock and jazz. He tells us why The Jesus Lizard are able to retain their energy and intensity over their long career and why quality control is so important to the band.  We also learn how refinement and brutal honesty play a role in the evolution of his guitar playing.  Joe and Duane discuss the celebration of “heavy music” in the UK with bands like IDLES, and we hear a couple new Jesus Lizard tunes. The Jesus Lizard Ipecac Episode supported by Izotope Episode supported by Distrokid Episode supported by Thunder Road Guitars

Part 2 of my conversation with guest Jay Breitling about our favorite music of 2024 so far. Show notes: JB's #6 and JK's #7: Philly's Mannequin Pussy is a wide-ranging delight JK's 6: Excellent jangle rock from Toronto's Ducks Ltd. JB's #5 and JK's #3: J Mascis with a laid-back winner of a solo album Let us know if you want to be in the studio audience for the year-end wrapup JK's #5: A more electronic effort from St. Vincent The limited amount of media attention given to albums now How do current artists measure success?  Remembering weird synth pop from the early '80s Fewer barriers to entry, but fewer ways to get your music in front of people JB's #4: Another great Slumberland release from Lunchbox, featuring folks from Hard Left JK's #4: First release in 14 years from NYC art rockers Les Savy Fav JB's #3: NH-based act combines post punk with many different genres JB's #2: Johnny Foreigner returns with EP previewing their upcoming album JK's #2: METZ adds catchiness to their noise rock  JB's #1: Political swipe at gentrification from Neutrals Anticipated albums: Fontaines D.C., Sunset Rubdown, Johnny Foreigner, Chime School, Peel Dream Magazine, Jesus Lizard, Horse Jumper of Love, Los Campesinos, Osees JK's #1: Hot collection of power pop rippers from Daniel Romano's Outfit Completely Conspicuous is available through Apple Podcasts. Subscribe and write a review! The opening and closing theme of Completely Conspicuous is "Theme to Big F'in Pants" by Jay Breitling. Voiceover work is courtesy of James Gralian.

Feral Vices, a dynamic two-piece alternative rock band from Louisville, Kentucky, has carved out a unique sonic identity. Influenced by a diverse array of bands such as Queens of the Stone Age, Refused, The Jesus Lizard, and The Dillinger Escape Plan, lead singer and guitarist Alexander Hoagland, along with drummer Justin Cottner, deliver a fresh and distinctive sound in the realm of two-piece bands. Relentlessly touring and consistently releasing new music, this prolific duo has shared the stage with acts like Four Year Strong, Microwave, and Save Face. Their track "Mass Produce Your Revolution" was featured in the end credits of the Scott Adkins and Ray Stevenson film "Accident Man: Hitman's Holiday". With their innovative style and relentless drive, Feral Vices is a band to watch closely. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tophillrecording/support

  Hey have you heard the news? Jesus Lizard is back! They've dropped a new album and are hitting the road for a tour. To celebrate this exciting comeback, we're jumping on the Jesus Lizard bandwagon. So, we're bringing you a replay of our classic interview with the one and only David Yow.  

150 Episodes!!!! Past #CBGML publicity stunts that have gotten us in trouble, i.e. filling ponds with cold brew, spraying pond water onto the mayor's furniture store. ALSO: Greg's AI movie script! Charles Manson covering Kelly Clarkson! PLUS: Meeting your future wife at Rock City, and a new Jesus Lizard song!!!!The Jesus Lizard - "Hide and Seek": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Zx-vUlFXEkCold Brew Patreon: Patreon.com/ChrisCroftonChannel Nonfiction: Channelnonfiction.comCan Do Cold Brew: CanDoColdBrew.com

This week's show, after a 1994 Lush lulling: brand new Jesus Lizard, Black Watch, Idaho, Steve Wynn, Alejandro Escovedo, GospelbeacH, and Matt Hunter & the Dusty Fates, plus Clarence “Gatemouth” Brown, Ringo Starr, John Renbourn, Augustus Pablo, Count ...

21st dang installment of LLR pod's bonus offering is OFF THE FLIPPN' CHAIN. Jay and Deon discuss what's been on their turntables and pumped into their ears. A mildly summery mixtape is manufactured with input from Super-Secret-Special-Friend Scott Baker, who also waxes poetic on podcasting, creating his own music, and (sometimes reluctantly) sharing sonic interests with his children. Join us for a super-sized helping of sonic deliciousness. TRANSLATION: This b!#@h is looooooooooooooong. Enjoy! Sonic contributors to the twenty-first bonus episode of Lightnin' Licks Radio include:  Koreatown Oddity, DJ Nu-Mark, Jurassic 5, Dave Matthews Band, Zach Braff, Natalie Portman, Prince Paul, De La Soul, Delvon Lamarr Organ Trio, Pale Jay, Lindsey Buckingham, Matt Pond PA, Lightning Love, Silver Jews, Pavement, Jesus Lizard, STEVE FUCKING ALBINI, Cheap Trick, Ant Banks, Too $hort, MC Breed, Mel Brown, Hanna-Barbara's Flintstones, The Beatles, Dead Kennedys, The Ramones, Hanson, Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers, The Who, Cal Tjader, Public Image Limited, Eric Sermon, Marvin Gaye, MC5, Van Halen, White Zombie, The Stooges, Jon Stewart, Marianne Towan, Steve Drzewiecki Band, Meghan Trainor, MMHP from the 989, ? & the Mysterians, Bob Segar System, Billy Stings, Willie Nelson, Dick Wagner, Alice Cooper, Norah Jones, Scott Baker, Gotye, Adrian Gorvitz, Bobby Caldwell, Llyod Cole, Everything but the Girl, Neil Finn, The Style Council, Ashiko, Monwa & Son, The Black Five, Hot Soul Singers, Zasha, David Axelrod, Organized Konfusion, Meredith Monk, Cut Chemist, Afrika Bambaataa, Candito, Babe Ruth, Chicago Gangsters, Juice, and Original Concept. Jay brought to the dining room table the sounds of Veruca Salt, Thunderclap Newman, Tinted Windows, and DJ Shadow. Deon offered up tunes from Purple Mountains, Spice 1, Yusef Lateef, and Stimela. Scott suggested taking a trip with Rich Hinman vs. Alan Levy, Alan Baufman, Hozier, and Crowded House. Do summer right. Consume Blue Chair Bay Flavored Rums. Be kind, rewind, and enjoy lawn darts responsibly. XXI mixtape: {SIDE ONE} [1] Sell out intro [2] DJ Shadow – The Number Song [3] Rich Hinman vs. Adam Levy – Flawless [4] Purple Mountains – She's Making Friends, I'm Turning Stranger [5] Veruca Salt – Shimmer Like a Girl [6] Alan Braufman – Spirits (edit) [7] Stimela – Mind Games (edit) {SIDE TWO} [1] Tinted Windows – Messing With my Head [2] Crowded House – Night Song [3] Yusef Lateef – Like It Is (edit) [4] Thunderclap Newman – The Reason [5] Spice 1 featuring Mel Brown – Money Gone (remix) [6] Hozier – De Selby (parts 1 & 2, edit) mix intro/bumper/outro lifted from The Who's classic 1967 LP The Who Sell Out Guest Scott Baker's website Guest Scott Baker's podcast Michigan Rock and Roll Legends Hall of Fame --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/llradio/message

It is with heavy hearts that we deliver this week's episode honoring the passing of a true recording innovator and master of his craft: the amazing Mr. Steve Albini. Our good friend and fellow podcasting brother, Chris L joins us from the awesome Pod Of Thunder podcast. We knew we needed someone who represented the region of the country Steve was from and where he did most of his work; a magical faraway place called Chicagoland. Chris was a musician in the Chicago scene in the 90s when Albini's “production” was soaring, and his recordings were impacting the rock and alternative world hugely. This a tough loss, as Albini's ability to capture the true essence of a real rock n' roll band was second to none.New to InObscuria? Typically, what we do is exhume obscure Rock n' Punk n' Metal in one of 3 categories: the Lost, the Forgotten, or the Should Have Beens. Rest In Peace, Steve. The sounds of recorded drums will never be the same!Songs this week include:Bodhisattva – “Broken” from Bodhisattva (1993)Big Black – “Bad Penny” from Songs About Fucking (1987)Urge Overkill – “Lineman” from Wichita Lineman (1987)Pegboy – “Never A Question” from Fore (EP) (1993)Shellac – “My Black Ass” from At Action Park (1994)Spy – “Way Inside” from Spy (2005)Foxy Shazam – “Shoe Box” from GONZO (2014)The Mean Reds – “A Little Truth” from CRC Demo (1996)Please subscribe everywhere that you listen to podcasts!Visit us: https://inobscuria.com/https://www.facebook.com/InObscuriahttps://twitter.com/inobscuriahttps://www.instagram.com/inobscuria/Buy cool stuff with our logo on it!: https://www.redbubble.com/people/InObscuria?asc=uIf you'd like to check out Kevin's band THE SWEAR, take a listen on all streaming services or pick up a digital copy of their latest release here: https://theswear.bandcamp.com/If you want to hear Robert and Kevin's band from the late 90s – early 00s BIG JACK PNEUMATIC, check it out here: https://bigjackpnuematic.bandcamp.com/Check out Robert's amazing fire sculptures and metal workings here: http://flamewerx.com/

Lickers Jay and Deon wax poetic on ten of their favorite records from their respective collections which are filed under the letter J. Their choices lead to discussions on Blindboy Boatclub (he rules), the origins of their nicknames (do you even know these guys?), another blind-bought Burger Records beauty (Jay is a total Burger fanboy), Steve Albini (R.I.P.), and much more. Tune in and rock out! --- In the early 1970s, legendary collaborator and self-proclaimed non-musician Brian Eno famously designed a deck of 115 cards containing elliptical imperatives to spark in the user creative connections unobtainable through regular modes of work. He called his creation "Oblique Strategies." For the past half century, countless artists and professionals across the globe have benefited from utilizing the oblique strategies technique when attempting to overcome a lull in creative output. In 2024, idiotic, introverted yet somehow still award-winning* hobby podcasters and self-proclaimed Lightnin' Lickers Jay and Deon found themselves uninspired when contemplating the potential theme of their upcoming thirty-seventh episode. Together, they decided... to default back to the alphabet. Because they have a reasonably solid grasp of the alphabet and how it works. They had previously utilized the letters A thru I, so naturally, they went with J. Sonic contributors to the thirty-seventh episode of Lightnin' Licks Radio podcast include: Brothers Johnson, Holland-Dozier-Holland, Lee Moses, Steve Albini, L.L. Cool J, Patience, Prince Paul, De La Soul, Freddie King, Little Walter, Blinboy Boatclub, SHANNON, Cornbroom Jenkins, Mighty Mista Knapps, Lucy Givens, Sesame Street, Huey Lewis & the News, The Jesus Lizard, Jonathon Wolffe, Kenny Gamble, Leon Huff, The Three Degrees, EMINIM, Labi Siffre, Marilyn Manson, Hootie & the Blowfish, Drive Like Jehu, Led Zepplin, Helmet with David Yow, Junk Monkeys, Goo Goo Dolls, Syl Johnson, Howlin' Wolf, Wu-tang Clan, Kanye West with Jay-Z, Hank & Kieth Shocklee with Public Enemy, Charlie Rich, Cypress Hill, The Luniz, R2D2, Jessie Jones, Death Valley Girls, Pete Jolly, Art Pepper, Jessica McQuarter, Herb Alpert, Jerry Moss, Ugly Duckling, DJ Einstein, Jimmie & Vella, Bobby Womack, Dead Prez, J. Cole, Kendrick Lamar, Anthony Fantano, Drake, Timmy Thomas, Post-POTUS George W. Bush, Childish Gambino, Jobriath, David Bowie, Stephen Trask, Vernard Jonson, Peter C. Johnson, Paul Vance & Lee Pockriss, Cody Jinks, Shellac, the Radiolab archives, The Clockers. LLR “J” mixtape: [SIDE A](1) The Jesus Lizard - Mouth Breather (2) Jimmie & Vella - Well (3) Peter C. Johnson - Snowblind (4) J. Cole - No Role Modelz (5) Vernard Johnson - Soul Metamorphosis Medley MegaMix [SIDE B] (1) Pete Jolly - Springs (2) Junk Monkeys - Round and Round (3) Syl Johnson - Is It Because I'm Black (4) Jessie Jones - Sugar Coated (5) Jobriath - World Without You Thanks for listening. Tune in again sometime within a few weeks for another bonus episode. Have a great summer! *former REVIEW magazine best live streaming production --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/llradio/message

A conversation about one of the most admired, and divisive, figures in rock. Guest host: Ben Sisario. Guests: The Atlantic's Jeremy Gordon, and Joe Gross.

Is your home studio the best place for your client? Ken talked about recording at home vs a big studio, playlists vs endless sessions, why pressure is good for music, riding the master fader, mixing with drum samples, and setting up for Atmos. Get access to FREE mixing mini-course: https://MixMasterBundle.com My guest today is Ken Sluiter, a Grammy-nominated recording engineer/producer/mixer who has been on the podcast before for episodes RSR111 and RSR194 when we talked about his background and shared some awesome mixing tips for the studio. Ken's credits include artists such as Morrissey, Flogging Molly, Andra Day, Divine Fits, Heart, Jerry Lee Lewis, James Blunt, Weezer, the Mekons, The Jesus Lizard and Ok Go to name a few. He has worked with many audio greats like Joe Chiccarelli, Jim Scott, and Andrew Scheps.  It has been a few years since we've chatted with Ken so today we will be focusing on what's new at his studio and surely sharing some more thoughts on mixing in stereo and immersive audio. Thanks to Brad Wood for making our original introduction! THANKS TO OUR SPONSORS! http://UltimateMixingMasterclass.com https://gracedesign.com/ https://www.native-instruments.com use code ROCK10 to get 10% off! https://lewitt.link/rockstars https://iZotope.com use code ROCK10 to get 10% off! https://www.adam-audio.com https://RecordingStudioRockstars.com/Academy  https://www.thetoyboxstudio.com/ Listen to this guest's discography on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2npn62Oc7269nmVWKIDXK8?si=cf72bda775f84634 If you love the podcast, then please leave a review: https://RSRockstars.com/Review CLICK HERE FOR COMPLETE SHOW NOTES AT: https://RSRockstars.com/445

How many engineers can you fit on a podcast? Pete, John and Brandon talked about the good and bad of a shared studio, Atmos mixing and mastering, how to make great bass, vinyl records, and why their worst day is better than most jobs' best days! Get access to FREE mixing mini-course: https://MixMasterBundle.com My guests today are Pete Lyman, John Baldwin & Brandon Towles mixing, mastering, and cutting vinyl at Infrasonic Sound East here in Nashville. Pete Lyman who has been a guest on episode RSR165 is a GRAMMY-nominated mastering engineer, and owner of Infrasonic Mastering, an audio and vinyl mastering studio with locations in Los Angeles, CA and Nashville, TN. Pete's digital and vinyl mastering career spans thousands of titles with clients like Chris Stapleton, Jason Isbell, Brandi Carlile, Sturgill Simpson, John Prine, Weezer, Panic! At the Disco and more.   John Baldwin is a GRAMMY-nominated mastering engineer based in Nashville, TN. In 2010 John launched John Baldwin Mastering out of a studio he built in his house, eventually moving to Historic RCA Studio A. John joined the Infrasonic Mastering roster in 2021, bringing a wide spectrum of genres and skills, including restoring and remastering from vinyl and tape. His discography includes artists such as Nancy Sinatra, Deer Tick, Emmylou Harris, The Jesus Lizard, Sly Stone, The Stone Roses, Margo Price, Delta Spirit, and many others INCLUDING Twiggs II a record I produced at The Toy Box Studio. Brandon Towles is a Mixing Engineer and Assistant/Engineer/All Around Good Guy to multi-Grammy winner F. Reid Shippen. Originally from Georgetown, KY, after traveling the country for a few years, Brandon landed in Nashville to work with Reid and Infrasonic Immersive. He has Co-Mixed and Assisted on projects for artists including Dierks Bentley, Keke Palmer, Parker McCollum, The Aces, Kenny Chesney, and many more. Outside of music, Brandon loves playing basketball, the Detroit Lions, and very, very short walks on the beach. Thank you to Raelynn Janicke for setting this interview up! THANKS TO OUR SPONSORS! https://UltimateMixingMasterclass.com https://www.native-instruments.com use code ROCK10 to get 10% off! https://lewitt.link/rockstars https://www.Spectra1964.com https://MacSales.com/rockstars https://iZotope.com use code ROCK10 to get 10% off any individual plugin! https://www.adam-audio.com https://RecordingStudioRockstars.com/Academy  https://www.thetoyboxstudio.com/ Listen to these guests' discography on Spotify: Pete Lyman: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7MjQvecFkWiCvpVubFQ1Xe?si=8a3c8e75085945b1 John Baldwin: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5Bc7sk7fQyTR4zIGpukczw?si=8e56f9203b114ee8 Brandon Towles: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5cYne80PW7Q0RJgBHzzNNn?si=b8ca212e598247db If you love the podcast, then please leave a review: https://RSRockstars.com/Review CLICK HERE FOR COMPLETE SHOW NOTES AT: https://RSRockstars.com/434