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Transcript00:00:00 Intro Music[Speaker] Kathy Fettke: In this Real Estate News Brief for the week ending July 24th, 2021… why refi's are getting cheaper, what investors are doing with this hot market, and how homeowners are making money from their backyard swimming pools.Hi, I'm Kathy Fettke and this is the Real Estate News for Investors.Economic NewsWe begin with economic news from this past week, and a jump in the number of people applying for unemployment benefits. Initial jobless claims were up 51,000 to 419,000 in the last week. It's the highest level in two months, but the increase is “not” due to the pandemic. As MarketWatch reports, claims were higher in auto manufacturing states like Michigan, Kentucky and Texas because plants are shut down during the summer for retooling. (1)Existing home sales rebounded in June. They had been heading lower for four months due to the tight inventory, but there's been an increase in listings, and that's boosting home sales. Inventory levels are currently at 2.6 months of supply. That's up from 2.5 in May. It takes about 17 days, on average, for homes to sell. (2)Builders are also increasing their output. June housing starts hit their highest level since March. They were up 6.3% from May to June, and are up 29% year-over-year. Permits were down a bit however. They dipped 5% from May but are still 23% higher year-over-year. (3)That dip in permits may reflect a dip in home-builder confidence. The monthly index fell one point in July to a reading of 80. Anything over 50 is a positive sign of builder confidence. The National Association of Homebuilders says builder confidence has dropped somewhat because of a shortage of workers, construction materials and buildable lots. (4) Mortgage RatesMortgage rates dipped quite a bit this last week. Freddie Mac says the average 30-year fixed rate mortgage was down 10 basis points to 2.78%. The 15-year was also down 10 points to 2.12%. The report says that rates have dropped because of concerns about the Delta variant of the Covid virus, which is putting pressure on Treasury yields. And when Treasury yields drop, so do mortgage rates. (5)In other news making headlines…Bye-Bye to Dreaded Refinancing FeeA controversial fee added to refinancing loans during the pandemic has been eliminated, and that will lower the cost of most refi's. The Federal Housing Finance Agency announced that, starting in August, lenders will not be required to pay an adverse market fee of 50 basis points to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. That fee has been, of course, passed on to borrowers. (6)The FHFA began charging that fee last year to cover higher costs and risks during the pandemic. Critics claim it was imposed to help raise capital during last year's refinancing boom. The GSEs have done well throughout the pandemic. As Housingwire reports, Fannie Mae reported $5 billion in net income for the first quarter of this year while Freddie Mac reported $2.8 billion.Investors Pouring into the Rental MarketThe number of homes purchased by investors set a new record in the second quarter. A Redfin study shows that investors bought almost 68,000 U.S. homes worth a record $48.5 billion. That's a 15.1% increase from the first quarter, and a 106.7% increase from the same quarter last year. (7)Redfin says that investors are buying about one in every six homes, and that multi-family properties are still the most popular. But it says single-family homes and condos are gaining ground. Redfin senior economist, Sheharyar Bokhari, says: “Investors see soaring home prices as an opportunity. With housing values consistently on the rise, solid returns are pretty much guaranteed -- especially when you're an investor who has access to extremely cheap debt.”But it's interesting to note that about 75% of the investor purchases were financed with all cash. That's the highest level of all-cash investor home purchases since 2018. It's also much higher than the national average of 30% for all buyers, although that represented a big increase from last year, as well. (8)Airbnb for Backyard PoolsIf you can't rent your home to short-term guests, what about your backyard pool? That's apparently what some people have discovered as a way to earn extra cash. Realtor.com reports that “homeowners are listing their underused private pools online to rent them out for a few hours” and the trend is being called “Airbnb for backyard pools.”Realtor mentions one pool rental site called Swimply. It has about 13,000 pool owners signed up in about 125 markets. And reservations are reportedly “booming.”That's it for today. Check the show notes for links. And please remember to subscribe to our podcasts and leave a review if you like what you hear.You can also join RealWealth for free at newsforinvestors.com. As a member, you have access to the Investor Portal where you can view sample property pro formas and connect with our network of resources, including experienced investment counselors, property teams, lenders, 1031 exchange facilitators, attorneys, CPAs and more.Thanks for listening. I'm Kathy Fettke...00:05:32 Closing MusicEndLinks:1 - https://www.marketwatch.com/story/u-s-unemployment-claims-jump-51-000-to-nine-week-high-of-419-000-11626958688?mod=economic-report2 - https://www.marketwatch.com/story/existing-home-sales-rebound-in-june-after-four-months-of-declines-11626963388?mod=economy-politics3 - https://www.marketwatch.com/story/construction-of-new-homes-improves-but-home-builders-hold-the-key-to-the-housing-markets-trajectory-11626785317?mod=economy-politics4 - https://www.marketwatch.com/story/home-builder-confidence-wanes-as-materials-and-labor-shortages-continue-11626703703?mod=economy-politics5 - http://www.freddiemac.com/pmms/6 - https://www.housingwire.com/articles/fhfa-to-kill-the-adverse-market-fee/7 - https://www.redfin.com/news/investor-home-purchases-q2-2021/8 - https://www.redfin.com/news/all-cash-home-purchases-2021/9 - https://magazine.realtor/daily-news/2021/07/22/homeowners-are-renting-out-their-pools-for-extra-cash

What's the one thing that we all want but can't have? You guessed it – it's a vacation! *sigh* That wasn't a fun riddle. What's worse is, this feeling of longing may last a while, until it gets safe to travel again. But, of course, one can still dream. Till then, here's a mixtape full of travel-worthy tunes to keep you going until you can book that flight or hit the road again. Song List: Tribemama Marykali - Bless Ya Heels (02:30 - 05:37) Alan Ebe - Honey (06:45 - 11:29) Vinayak ft. Tushar Joshi & Harjot Kaur - Tu Mujh Mein (12:18 - 16:06) Trenance - Tell Me Again (17:35 - 20:52) Apartment Upstairs feat. Doc.Awes, Abhay Sharma and Fakeer - I'll Be With You (22:38 - 26:16) Michael Timothy feat. Nami - Bye Bye (27:15 - 29:31) --- Come be our friend: Facebook @maedinindia Instagram @maedinindia Twitter @maedinindia CREDITS: Host: Mae Twitter: @maebemaebe Instagram: @maemariyam Audio Editor Post: Kartik Kulkarni Producer: Shaun Fanthome and Husein Haveliwala

Deuxième épisode sur les peurs liées à l'arrêt de la pilule. Ce sont de grandes questions qui nous bloquent souvent dans notre volotné d'arrêter la pilule. Avec cette série de podcast, notre objectif est de t'amener à réfléchir et travailler sur ces peurs. Parce que nous sommes nous aussi passer par là. Nous aussi nous avons mis du temps à l'arrêter ! Nous sommes comme vous, avec les mêmes réfléxions, les mêmes craintes. Une chose est sûre et on te le répètera à chaque fois : l'arrêt de la pilule est un beau chemin. Un chemin qui se veut positif, vers une meilleure connaissance de soi et une connexion profonde avec son corps. Quelle autre peur souhaites-tu qu'on aborde dans le prochain épisode ? IGTV : comment choisir son naturopathe ? : https://www.instagram.com/tv/CQWa2iIhJwv/ Où nous retrouver ? : Sur le site : ma-vie-apres.com Sur Instagram : @_mavieapres Sur Le Cocon :  https://le-cocon.ma-vie-apres.com/  Prendre rendez-vous avec Maëlle :  https://ma-vie-apres.com/produit/rendez-vous-naturopathique/ Le programme Bye Bye les boutons Post Pilule : https://ma-vie-apres.com/bye-bye-les-boutons-a-larret-de-la-pilule/ 

Post-Lockdown Anxiety Don't put this off Not a long podcast episode but maybe one with a really important message. Everything is about to change again as we come out of lock-down and I am seeing a huge increase in people suffering from anxiety in all different forms and it no coincidence of the timing with what's been going on and what's about to happen in our ever-changing world. And the thing is this anxiety is relatively easy to deal with if you deal with it now but if left, like all issues, they tend to get worse and spread to other areas of our lives. You don't want that and I don't want that for you so let's nip it in the bud right now. And also as you listen if there is anything you are experiencing and need more help that I can give here - Let me know - simply email me at feedback@personaldevelopmentunplugged.com Because this is such an important topic please share this episode with anyone and everyone you know - it might be the best thing you can ever do for them Here's the link: https://personaldevelopmentunplugged.com/242-post-lockdown-anxiety Shine brightly Paul Please remember you can leave a comment or email me with questions, requests and feedback. If you have enjoyed this or any other episode please share and subscribe. 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Well, welcome back, or welcome to the PDU as a poet, poetry, personal development unplugged, the podcast that tries to make things as simple as possible to get the most return on your investment, or break down that complicated stuff. And I wanted to have a little talk about post lockdown anxiety because I'm seeing a lot of it now through the therapy side of my, my little other life, my alter life. And I wanted to just have a chat. So this might be a five-minute quickie, I think so a little bit longer. But it's not going to be the longest of long podcasts. But I think it's something that you might just want to consider, see if any of this resonates with you. And if it does, then there'll be some solutions within this podcast. So post lockdown anxiety, now not talking about the things that run through your mind, all those things, because you know what they are. But the whole problem is you think you do, you know you think you know what the voices the thoughts are, say voices, you might get voices, the voice, your voice, maybe the questioning, the things that you make up in your mind, or, in some ways been created by this locked down COVID 19 lockdown, or working from home, which is the same thing to me. But we're coming out of it. And it's causing, or what I can see is causing a lot of anxiety in different ways. So whilst I say you already know about it, but I think you know what, what the elements are, sometimes we need to understand what is happening because they're happening for a reason. You see, when you can understand, I believe that's when you can use processes and methods to help. Because if you just fight against things, you push against things, your unconscious mind can push back a lot harder, you know, consciously. You don't wake up in the morning and have these, this anxiety, the various things that go with a fear of missing out, imposter syndrome, all that stuff, you don't consciously think, do you know what today I think I'm gonna feel like a real imposter. You don't do it do you? but it happens all the same. You might even wake up in the morning and go, you know what this, this day, today is going to be completely different. I am going to nail it. And then something happens and boom. Good old best friend of yours says I'll find a way to protect you. So I'll give you a few worries. But those worries are, as I just said, there to protect you. Which seems really, really quite weird because well, that's where the conflict comes from. Because if your best friend inside is trying to protect you and keep you safe, yet, the one thing you don't feel is safe, you feel frightened or anxious, then we know there's a conflict. But we do want to feel safe, we do want to feel protected. Consciously, if you knew you could do anything and always be safe protected, you would have well, any unconfidence you had would disappear, wouldn't it. You would be confident in your competence, you'd be looking forward to things, the pictures you make in your mind would be all positive of seeing wonderful results. Now, understanding what it is or the conflict is easier said than done. But  I will go through that with you. But the thing is, I'm not gonna give you any mind hacks, because you know what I think about hacks, you know, hacking away, and we hate that. But when you start thinking, I mean, here's a typical mind hack. I'm really nervous. I keep going through how bad it's going to be, and how bad it'll end up. And it's going to be so bad. And so the mind hack is "right stop!" And we do a lot of stopping and pausing here. But stop, take four deep breaths. In fact, if you want to do some square breathing for in for four, hold for four then out, and hold for four, It'll bring your heart rate down. And it might allow you to think a little clearer for a little while because it's a pattern interrupt. That's all it is. Unless you deal with that conflict. Generally, I can only say generally, sometimes that pattern interrupt will give you sufficient time to think of an answer or do something differently. But generally, we go back to the same thing because that's what human beings do, don't we? We think we're going to get a different result. Because when we go back to do the same things, but pretty soon, generally it comes back. So what are you going to do? Well, I think we need to just understand that this is our protection measure, but it's going a little bit haywire. your unconscious mind is now seeing Danger, it's seeing it everywhere. And it's taking it well out of proportion into overwhelm. And this is all it is, we're getting overwhelmed. When we get overwhelmed, we get anxious, we get fearful, that's when we get that fear of missing out FOMO, that's when we get imposter syndrome. That's when we get anxiety from, as well, we don't want to go out, we don't do anything, we get unconfident, you name it, they're all there. But protection is good. The thing is, overwhelm with all those other effects of overwhelm, are not good. So all we just need to do is understand, first of all, hey, this is just a behavior, or behavior that my unconscious mind has chosen, you chose it, chosen to help. And the thing is, all we need to do now is change the behavior. Simple, one of the simple things I love to do is to ask some questions, but I'll do that in a minute. But if there's overwhelm, is creating, well, creating such anxiety that you're unable to perform properly, or it's giving you, you know, too much, and you're thinking about taking pills and things like that. I'm not a doctor. I'm a therapist, but not your therapist. But here's what I would suggest. The best way, if the overwhelm is too much, maybe you've turned to a little bit more alcohol because I'm seeing that a lot. People are changing to turning to alcohol, maybe they're turning to a bit more smoking, and a bit more food, all these things that give instant gratification as it were, but do not resolve the problem. Because haven't gone to the cause. And to do that, I always say one to one was one to a one to one help see a therapist. One thing about that is, it's quick. It's so quick, when you get to be with a good therapist, I always promote someone who does something like what I do NLP hypnosis, and timeline therapy, and a few more twists on those. But those are the core. Because I know people who, when we have those types of skills, we just seem to get the results a lot quicker, a lot easier. And they're a lot gentler. It's a comfortable way to work with somebody not, we don't do things to you, we work with you to find out what's happening, what's causing it, and how you want to be and get that change. Because when you think about how you want to be. And if you could imagine it, it would, I'm going to guess feel pretty comfortable, pretty good, pretty safe. And that's what we need to show the unconscious mind to say there's a better way. Because your unconscious mind has chosen a better way. But at this moment in time, it doesn't know a better way. So we just did a little bit of education. Get it to learn from what it's trying to do. Learn that it's in conflict with itself, it's not getting the result at once, and then get it to access those resources that you want, what you want, not what other people. So that's what I would do, work with therapists like myself, that does hypnosis, respect, good hypnotist, a good NLP practitioner, and a good time no therapy practitioner and other stuff. But that's only me because that's what I was trained as, or trained in. But put that aside. So if it's overwhelming, and you want it to do quick, and you get other people to help you with it, to do it with you, you don't have to do it yourself. Therefore, it's not I don't call it lazy, but it's just, it takes less effort. Return on Investment, easy solution. The next one, and you can do this, while you're seeking that one-to-one help is to we all say stop and pause, not take those four breaths, but it does help. Not gonna poopoo that one because that was like a mind hack. But it is stopping and breathing, square breathing will bring your heart rate down will bring you into a more comfortable state. But when you just stop and pause and go into that feeling and just acknowledge it or not accept it, we don't accept these types of things. Because we don't, we know there's a better way. So we acknowledge that it's the unconscious mind your best friend trying to protect you. But we do also know and your unconscious mind will be listening to you and listen to this, that the conflict is, is here because he's not working. He's trying to protect you and you don't feel protected. It's not working. So simply as you stop and pause and you go inside you breathe properly. You just become comfortable. Becoming aware of where that feeling is in your body and just say either out loud or just with your inner voice. How can you protect me in a better way? Now, you might like to give an example because you know how you want to feel so As you say that, and I thank you, my best friend, I know you're trying to protect me. But you have to understand there's a conflict going on Cloughie said there's a conflict. And I agree with him because it's not working. So you can play this over and over again. But just talk to your best friend and just say, this is how I'd like it to be. Maybe you could remember times in the past where you've dealt with these types of things before in a good way. And notice, when you remember it, you can go back to that time, see what you saw, hear what you heard, and feel those feelings. And say, to your unconscious mind, this is about another way, this is one better way, if I had this, it would be so much better. But this is only one way of a myriad of wonderful, rich ways. Here's another way, and you could go back to a different memory, keep them specific memories. We don't generalize, we want specific memories when you felt good, where you dealt with issues, maybe you could deal with one this way? This is the way I'd like to feel. Remember a time when you are comfortable, where you were curious away, you are confident, not overcome. I say that, again, not overconfident, that's dangerous, but a time when you were confident and you got a good result. So you start to just remember these different things, always go back to those times because they're good times. So it's nice and safe to do. So go back to those good times. Go back into your body, see what you saw, hear what you heard, and feel that feeling. Just keep on doing it. Now what you can do is also think well, how would I like to feel how to really like to feel, because things change, I can have a little bit of everything. So if I'm thinking of this specific thing maybe is a fear of missing out or maybe it's an imposter syndrome, maybe it's I've got to start talking to people, how to like to act and react and be and imagine yourself and we've got other episodes of how to do this. But just very quickly, just close your eyes. Imagine another you out there doing it on a screen, maybe a movie screen, or just see another you out there, meeting those people doing that stuff that you want to be able to do. And when they're doing when that you out there is doing exactly what you want to do. Doing it, just the way you want to do it. And it looks so good. That it even gives you a good feeling now, then imagine going into them, see what they're seeing through their eyes, hear what they're hearing and feel that feeling and say to your unconscious mind. Look, this is another way. And I know you my unconscious mind can find even better ways, saying those wonderful words, I love to say 'this or something better'. And just keep doing a takes a few moments each time. So don't overkill it as because we're then we're, we're pushing too hard. But just every few minutes, you can think of another time and another time. And just ask your unconscious mind. This or something better How can you keep the intention for protection, keep me safe, and find one of these better ways or create better ways for me. Then if you wanted to, you could either flick through some past episodes to see if there are some things you'd like. And there are some great ones. But what you can do is go to the hypnosis tracks and I have you know where they are. They're on paulcloughonline.com/podcast sign-up. They're all there. There are over 50 I was looking at it the other day, and I'm going to do a podcast to let you know all the ones there. But as you flick down, you're going to say, Ah, that's what I need. That would help me imagine what I want. That would be another one to imagine how I want to feel to talk to my unconscious mind to feel comfortable. Because going back to my very first podcast, and it's the most popular. It's actually the second podcast episode because the first one was just an introduction, but #2 tells you all about being comfortable. And now I'm going to do it again. Because I just want to do that because I keep reminding people I like to like to do it again. But also, there's hypnosis track users scroll all the way down to the bottom of all those tracks, hashtag 2.1 feeling comfortable. Little things like that, because it'll give your unconscious mind a way to look to feel differently and keep you protected and getting you to feel good. And when it does that, guess what happens just like when you're working with a one-to-one therapist, whatever the changes you make generalize into different areas of your life. So yes, I was a little bit nervous or had anxiety about this part of my, my career or my work or what I'm doing. But all of a sudden that's changed. But also my relationships have changed. The way I feel about myself has changed when I do my socializing that's changed my friends notice a difference because I'm more confident with them too. So one change over here makes changes over there, there, and then there because that's what happens with this stuff. So in some ways, if you get a little bit of lockdown or post lockdown anxiety It's a good thing because it's now a chance to do a bit of spring cleaning, to get rid of the overwhelm, and actually start to think of how you want to feel not why you want to do. These are not goals. Not goal setting this is how do you want to feel. Because when you feel and the way you want to feel, it's not just as confident.  Because confidence is made up of a lot of different things for depending on the context, could have curiosity, could have excitement, could have calmness, it could have an awareness, and you put them all together like a menu, Yeah, menu, and you pick the ones to make a recipe and then you bake it inside yourself and go, boom, this is how it is, there's a good chance to spring plain. And it's a good time to say to your unconscious mind. Thanks so much for doing your best. But here's a better way. And now you can make it even better a better way because I know you're better at it than me. I hope in that. In the short, it is a short, longer podcast, I'll give you some ideas, some ideas to deal with post lockdown, COVID, anxiety, the working from home thinking about coming to work, maybe not going to work all those things. What are you going to do? Now, as we finish here? What I want to say is, and I always say it, but I really mean it. If you have any thoughts about this? Or if there are some areas that I don't think you could cope with yourself and you need a little bit of guidance. Email me feedback at personal development, unplugged calm. And I'll do a separate podcast for you, just on that specific one. Because if you need it, I guarantee you so many others will want it too. It just needs you to take the courage to send me an email. And that's really scary, daunting, isn't it? No, because I'll just send an email back to you too. We're gonna have a conversation, and we'll get things going. Okay, so that's what it's all about. Please share this, please share this episode because it's so important, I think. Because we had anxiety going in where the anxiety while we're in lockdown, you know, those probably MadWorld episodes I did. But now this is the time where we want to get better than we were when we went in. Let's really crack it. So we really enjoy life again, more than we could ever imagine. Okay, so please do email me. repeat it again, personal development not it's feedback at personal development, unplugged calm. Hypnosis tracks are at paulcloughonline.com/podcast. If you want to know about the confidence program, just go to paulcloughonline.com, the front page, there it is. And you get a massive discount. PDU40 gives you 40%. If you sign up for the hypnosis tracks, you get more. That's up to you. And come and join us. Come and join us and join me in changing the world and changing yourself Be the change you want to see in others. Great meme. Anyway, to all of that, share everything. And I'll see you again. I'll speak to you again. We'll have a muse and a conversation again, real soon. Bye Bye now.   Transcribed by https://otter.ai

Welcome back to Hoops & Scoops with Rebecca, Liza, Aaron, and Utah Jazz hater, David. The conference finals matchups are set! The Bucks took down the Nets in overtime, in Brooklyn, in game 7 to take the series! The Hawks led by Trae Young took down the Sixers in game 7, in Philly. So we will have Bucks vs. Hawks in the east. In the west, the Suns took out the Nuggets in a sweep. Then the Clippers took out the Jazz in 6 without Kawhi Leonard. We will have Suns vs. Clippers in the west. In this episode, we have conference finals predictions, discussion, and more. Including, is Philly saying Bye Bye to Ben Simmons, only time to tell. All this and more!

Music starts here with (7:40) with music festival talk Release Radar is lacking this week. A very brief Migos Culture III take, a quick revisit to Joey Purp (18:24), Kezo picks up the aux and plays "In the Air" X Destin Conrad (20:40). Genesis Owusu "No Looking Back" , "Bye Bye"(24:02). "Red Room" X Hiatus Kaiyote (28:48). "Chemicals" X SG Lewis (32:04). "Cold Blood" X Junior Varsity (37:40). Kezo plays a few poplar songs that have been sampled as Quan tries to guess what new song used it. (40:37) The boys transition to Anime (47:08) Quan gives his first impressions of "The God of High School" am I too old for this? (50:23) The a brief rundown of the show "91 Days" (54:55) "The Adventures of Sinbad" (1:03:00). "Lupin" the live action and anime (1:13:00). Transition into gaming. Apex tips from tiktok (1:19:20). Backloggery.com a website that helps you organize games you played and finished. (1:25:30) God of War Documentary (1:29:48) Google Pixel is releasing locked folders (1:33:52) Revisiting Cheating Bust in China (1:36:13)

Welcome to the Aphasia Access Conversations Podcast. I'm Jerry Hoepner, a faculty member in the department of Communication Sciences and Disorders at the University of Wisconsin – Eau Claire. I am privileged to introduce today's guest, Brendan Constantine. I'm excited to have a conversation with Brendan about his work with poetry for individuals with aphasia and related disorders.    Brendan Constantine is a poet based in Los Angeles. His work has appeared in many of the nation's standards, including Poetry, Best American Poetry, Prairie Schooner, Poetry Daily, Tin House, Ploughshares, Field, Virginia Quarterly, and Poem-a-Day.  His most recent collections are ‘Dementia, My Darling' (2016) from Red Hen Press and ‘Bouncy Bounce' (2018), a chapbook from Blue Horse Press. A new book, ‘The Opposites Game,' is on the way. He has received support and commissions from the Getty Museum, James Irvine Foundation, and the National Endowment for the Arts. A popular performer, Constantine has presented his work to audiences throughout the U.S. and Europe, also appearing on TED ED, NPR's All Things Considered, numerous podcasts, and YouTube. He holds an MFA in poetry from Vermont College of Fine Arts and currently teaches at the Windward School. Since 2017 he has been working with speech pathologist Michael Biel to develop poetry workshops for people with Aphasia and Traumatic Brain Injury (TBI). Take aways: Learn about Brendan's poetry workshops for individuals with aphasia and traumatic brain injuries.  Hear about the work he has done with Michael Biel's poetry group, the Chippewa Valley Aphasia Camp, and the Blugold Thursday Poetry Guild.  Learn how poetry can reveal competence, self-efficacy, confidence, and self-worth for poets with aphasia and brain injuries.  Hear examples of some of the poetry writing prompts and supports needed to facilitate successful outcomes.  Learn how poetry fits into the life participation approach.  Hear a few of the perceived outcomes from poets with aphasia and brain injuries.  Interview Transcript: Note – a person with aphasia in the group calls Jerry “The Professor” and Brendan the “California Guy”, so we decided to keep it that way in the transcript.  The Professor: All right, well hi Brendan good to see you. I'd say nice to see you again, but we just had poetry class together a few moments ago, so great to see you again five minutes ago. Yeah, we're glad to have you. California Guy: So, yes, it's wonderful it's wonderful to see you again and yeah, we did just have a great class. The Professor: Yeah, it's been a real treat and a real privilege to be a part of the poetry group so I'm excited to talk about that a little bit tonight and about some of your work and other poetry classes and workshops as well. So, shall we dive into it? California Guy: yeah, absolutely okay. The Professor: sounds good, well, maybe, before we start, I know you but not everyone does. Can you share a little bit about yourself, about your poetry about your teaching. That kind of stuff. California Guy: I'm a poet, based in Los Angeles California born and raised and for roughly the last 25 to 26 years I've been making my living here as a poet, and the teacher identified as a poet first and the teacher second maybe because even though I've been doing it for a long time teaching still scares me, and I think of it is something that I do, in addition to writing permanently I've got or a collections of poetry in print and based on the way and a lot of publications in in national journals and I've been fortunate enough to have my work adapted for the screen and I'm doing I'm doing pretty well for a poet these days and trying to think what else I. I've been fortunate enough also that my work has been proven useful. That is to say that my poetry is taught in a lot of places and because it seems so conducive to teaching that's really how I got started with teaching was that began with people reaching out and asking if they could use phones in the classroom and then asking if I would come and visit their classrooms and now I'm not only a full-time teacher at a local high school or high school, I should point out, incidentally, that rejected me as a student back in ‘78. But I also I also get to work with different groups I work with adults who have been away from writing and are just coming back I work with I frequently work with pick an elementary school and lecture at the local colleges a few times a year. And then there are groups like ours, and some of the some of the classes, that I would say, are more specialized. I think a long ago with some around 2009 I met a man named Gary Glaser who had developed a series of poetry workshops for people with Alzheimer's he created a really interesting series called the old timers poetry project and, on the strength of that and working with him. I started working with the facial book Club in Los Angeles, and then ultimately got to work with got to meet and work with you. The Professor: I think that's a terrific answer and I, and I appreciate that you said. Your poetry is useful because I'm interested in diving into that what's useful about it, I kind of phrase, the question I'm not really sure how to address this but is it something about the power of poetry transcendence this ability for people to express things that they can't express other ways, you have ideas about that. California Guy: yeah and the only thing I'm struggling with right now is making sure that my answer doesn't dominate the rest of our time together because it's so loaded. When I first started writing poetry in earnest our tree was experiencing as it does, I kind of, there was a wave of interest in popularity that was that was cresting in the middle nine days. And we were seeing a lot of poetry, at least, out of here, I was aware that poetry was starting to appear on the radio, you were hearing it on you know, on NPR and prairie home companion, and things like that and Things more people were getting gift anthologies of poetry and poetry was starting to enjoy an interesting higher profile slam poetry was also coming into its own and right at that time, the word accessibility started to become a bad word. At least among poets, a lot of poets felt that there were there was too much work out there, that was playing to the audience that wanted to be like. As often happens when anything becomes popular you know, a certain group or sunset identifies everything that makes it popular and immediately begin to disdain it. And likewise in poetry circles, you heard you know lots of folks going well you know. There were a lot of what they called make poetry, it seemed that just poetry was you know, was coming up through the floor and that there was you know, there was tons of it and it wasn't very good work was happy or it seems to have lots of buzzwords and then, once I take accessibility became sort of a bad word efforts paying attention to that I was mostly because I I'm sort of amused by it seemed like a fake issue. It seemed like a fake problem I look at people are reading phones and being moved by. You know why, would you even bother to criticize that you know why, would you bother to say Oh well, there's so much sameness. I think that sometimes people are afraid that work of quality will be drowned out or somehow muffled by an abundance of lesser work but I, I firmly believe that you know, a it's in the eye of the beholder and be only the future nose art. And with all of this sort of swirling around in my head, I have saw instead of accessibility, I saw usefulness, you know, I think that I think that people's attention is a very valuable commodity, and I think it only gets more valuable it only gets more precious because so much competing for attention so much that is worthy is competing for attention the easy observation is that with social media and the phenomenon is celebrity that there's a lot of stuff that is worthless that it's competing for attention, I also think there's a great deal of very important stuff that competes for our attention. And for me to ask for your attention. As a poet I'm asking something serious from you, you know why should you pay attention to me I better have something interesting and useful to say you know. You know if all I'm going to do is shake my fist at you, or just try to make you feel good, then you know. There may be merits to that, but I feel like I would like there to be something useful something that you can take away, something that will clarify something or allow us to identify with each other and so that is the kind of usefulness, I mean then there's the other, there is another kind of usefulness now, which is I believe that as a poet, you know if you are not going to take some responsibility for the excitement then you're going to be complicit in the boredom, and that means I need to look at the work of my contemporaries I need to look at the work of people around me and make noise about it when one thing that I think and share it and put it out there and I also need to help raise the voices of the people around which is one of the big reasons that I teach. And, and that too is another kind of usefulness take the skills of poetry of the things that we use to identify a poem as upon rhythm meter similarly metaphor image personification hyperbole citation all of these things are useful and practical. You know, I believe that metaphor is in fact a gateway to compassion. You know if on a you know spending my days wondering how the light shields, as it falls into the room and how the Chair feels you know I when I luxuriate into it, if I'm wondering about how everything around me feels then it's going to be a lot easier for me to remember to remember how you feel or you know or ask how you feel. And, and I think these are just you know, some of the uses that I'm referring to. The Professor: that's terrific and just to reiterate a couple of those points I think I'm right in saying that it's useful for the people who consume it and useful for the people that produce it right yeah and then that idea of raising up those voices I think it's really powerful as we think about you know, using poetry, with people with stroke and brain injury and dementia, as you said, yeah. California Guy: And a way to segue into that and again I'm hoping your editors will help us cut to the chase well I say I'm a lot I think poetry emerges from culture to culture, for you know, a very simple reason, and that is that. Most of life, he is in fact indescribable that life is you know is characterized by things that just seem impossible to relate things that either are very minute and subtle or things that are huge and breathtaking. And that vein what it's like to be alive and any moments to convey mortal self consciousness to another person it's an almost impossible task, and so we try to come up with other ways to stay the unsayable music is a big one dance is another painting drawing sculpture. You know plays theater movies, these are all an effort to sort of brands like what it's like to be alive and conscious and reacting to things in a mode and perhaps the most perverse of all. Are those of us trying to attempt, the unsayable with language. Because right away the deck seems to be stacked against us, if I just tell you that I'm having a good day or a bad day you will never feel it with me. If I get into a little more detail if I say it was a rough day at work or I felt that nobody was listening to what I was saying, or there was a great deal of traffic again you'll have information, but you won't feel it with me. But if I can give you something that it was like, if I can give you a simile or a metaphor, that I can give you the subtle textures colors sounds and shapes I can give you an image to see in your mind then maybe you and I can start to have higher communication, you will start to know more closely how I felt and as a poet, I know that once I except as my goal as just trying to translate a feeling to you, then I can use just about anything to get there and it has been most wonderful reeducation. The tools of poetry are the characteristics or three are working with people that have traumatic brain injuries and us and language processing disorders, people with like aphasia. Because. In poetry, because feeling is first there's a lot more room for how to use the language and when I encounter a new writer who's dealing with aphasia and they begin to understand that they really can you know work with whatever words are coming to mind, even if they feel like the wrong word, you know that poetry, you know that all poetry suffers from a great deal of inaccuracy and then every poet or the history of poet poetry. You know feels like they got it wrong and they didn't quite choose the right word that there was probably a better word out there, that also most of the word rules of language don't necessarily have to apply, I can write a poem using perfect grammar but I don't have to I can, if I need to abandon subject verb agreement and just put my emphasis on cultivating images and communicate by just relaying to another person, you know, in very what we call in poetry compressed language. You know the bare bones of my sensory memory, you know I touches taste sound smell, you know textures these. That this may be, all I need to create an emotional experience and the reader or the listener. You know, and that it will be its own thing that it will be viable it'll be upon. You know, it will have magnitude. And you know, working with people that have aphasia working with people that have traumatic brain injury folks, that is to say folks that you know. Or you know just putting together a simple sentence might be a challenge it's been amazing to watch what happens. When you just change the focus a little bit instead of saying tell me how you, you know about your day or write me a story about your day if they know going in that they're working with poetry. And then every single word that they choose, will mean potentially more of an itself, you know. But every word that they that they managed to come up with will have a greater currency, you know or for any audience, because, of course, when we experience poetry if we read poetry listen to poetry, we paint we attend it differently than we attend the other things don't like I mean if you know you're reading a problem you're going to read it differently to yourself. Then you would then you would read a story it's a different act of attention and we know that you know that going into it, that there is a kind of preciousness to every word that we might not attribute with just a prose narrative story, and I have found that this has only been empowering people with aphasia and traumatic brain injury. The Professor: I just gotta say I one of the things I love most about working with you on this is your ability to acknowledge competence, you may know not know the but the nerdy speech language pathologists that listen to this will know the term acknowledging competence, this idea that we convey through our words through our actions through our non verbals that someone has the capability and that expectation for competent performance. And I think what you just talked about is really important, if someone's thinking. Oh, I want to run a poetry group, but I don't have Brendan Constantine I think the key is really this idea that you said poetry, you know it is really a heavy lift in that you're trying to explain the unexplainable and you're trying to do it with words and yet we're asking people who have trouble with words doing this, I think your flip of saying, but the angle at this, is that you can use any words and you can use the words that are at your disposal, and you don't have to use them correctly and you can still be really successful and as we've learned really moving in and how you use those words. I just think that's the most remarkable thing about the poetry groups that I've been a part of. California Guy: Thank you, the therapies that I have encountered for people that are dealing with language processing disorders, they tend to be very corrective predictive therapies, you know the example that comes to mind is. Where, for instance, someone will be presented with a worksheet that has a drawing of a bed. And then there'll be an incomplete sentence at the bottom and it'll say when I'm tired I get in my blank and the person with aphasia or TBI is being guided to you know. To finish the sentence in a very predictable way because the emphasis is you know, we need to help them get you know back in the habit of simple communication and being to identify their needs, and this is, this is a very necessary kind of therapy, but. When it comes to poetry what's interesting you know poetry and creative writing in general is we're not interested in the next expected word. You know of you know we're interested in the word that will be emotionally true, and that may be a very unpredictable thing I've found you know witnessing a lot of paraphrases you know word displacement word substitution. You know, you know the substitution of you know, words that are genetically similar to the word that the person wants to use that quite often even when you know, a person with aphasia feels toward it in the act of trying to say something very simple and chooses the wrong word. That goes quote unquote wrong words. Nearly often actually are emotionally compatible with what they are trying to say, you know that you know if they're the wrong words they're only wrong by so much there inexact and that's different. And, and you know many, as I say, it's exactitude that a lot of therapies are trying to produce, but in poetry we're not really interested in exactitude largely because we know it's impossible. I mean great, I mean you know, working with metaphor trying to write this way to communicate through poetry is a lot like you know I liken it to the way diamonds are graded you know if you go to a jeweler and buy a diamond. The scale he's working with has at one end a concept of a perfect diamond but a perfect diamond is, in fact, impossible to possess because on their scale a perfect diamond would be composed entirely of light. And then seems to be, you know that seems to be a perfect own would be as it Lucy when you know you know we're trying for something that you know we know we're never going to get all the way there we're going to get close you know and so. You know. Your employer poetry, you know it's you know. As I said, it is different to the rules, and I find that it does tend to accommodate you know people that have these constrained communicative challenges and to mention that you know quite often, you know. Another thing that that I think you know it's just such a simple fix you know if somebody is interested in creating a poetry workshop. A lot of your you know for people that that have aphasia or people that have traumatic brain injury the standard model of any creative writing workshop is that everybody gets together and ranks. You know, and we do some of that in in the group that you and I shared but if you're willing to just change focus a little bit and give your students time to work on stuff on their own. And instead of putting an emphasis on producing writing right there in the workshop that the workshop is the place where the writing happened. But instead put an emphasis in your workshop on you know communicating about what you like about poetry what you notice about you know a poem that you like and how it works and extracting from that things that you would like to try, with the group and say okay. You know, we looked at this kind of home and this kind of home seems to work by doing this either, it has repetition in it for its shaped a particular way or use a certain kinds of words okay now we're all going to try that and we'll meet again in a week and you give everybody plenty of time to work. Just that you know just that little difference can produce huge results, the pressures off nobody staring over their shoulder nobody's you know they get enough of that you know, but if they have time to say I'm just writing this for me I'm just feeling he's to work on. You know, then get ready for some really interesting results you know and that seems to have been the case with our class is you know they have a week in between sessions, and you know plenty of time to be comfortable with you know with whatever words. The Professor: Yeah agreed and I've been really so we've been doing this, since November and I've been really surprised, but I shouldn't be surprised at how much kind of I'll call it poetry theory poetry approaches that people have just kind of adapted and really understand in terms of the way that they talk about poetry now versus how they talked about poetry before you know, tonight we had one of our Members share a poem about writing poems and it had all of those pieces in it right. You know about using imagery and about using metaphor, and about and was able to kind of talk about those things in a sophisticated way and how much of that that people can really learn and apply is really remarkable. California Guy: From what I've seen there's and it's interesting because we do have some some folks in the class that are dealing with you know different degrees of challenge and I have found in particular, you know, am I allowed to say the names of anyone in the class. The Professor: I that's a good question um I think it's probably okay to say a first name that's fine okay. California Guy: Well, today we have you know we have we had a student named reached out to I think of the folks that we work with has perhaps one of the most extreme. Challenges and what has happened, has been really remarkable because you know, because the pressure has been taken off of her to find the exact words that in fact. She seems to have embodied the principle that, if I can describe for you all the things around the thing that I want to talk to you about. You know I mean Sometimes I feel as though there are very specific words that she cannot some. And so, she gives us all the nouns that exists around that particular now literally like you know case in point, if I couldn't you know, think of the word bed, you know and instead describing everything else in that room or naming all of the things that are on the path. And of course, her poetry that's only going to make the he's more vivid, so you know. If she tells us about going on a trip. She mentioned, you know. The sunlight, you know, on grass and ducks in a pond and the thousands of people getting in and out of their cars. And the wind and her ears and all of these things come up and she does it in one or two words and it's not in complete sentences, but you never miss a beat and these incredible rhythm. You know and it's really pretty stunning, you know, and she knows that she can she can move from image to image to image to image and take us through the course of a day at a lake you know and it's you know it's really quite exciting, this is, you know this is more than once I've you know. I've got my thoughts myself, you know I, you know as her family aware of this or that story that she's you know anything at this, you know. In a home, you know she'll make reference to you know, surely you know, surely to talk about a perfect day or so throwing a memory from childhood and I think. You know this whole sounds like stuff that's coming out here for the first time, you know I mean you know and endeavored to just talk about those things directly would never have done so with this depth of feeling. The Professor: Yeah agreed, you know when you were talking about this, we had a conversation about this tonight in group, one of the most popular or common phrases that our group Members say may become a title for one of our publications about the poems. Which is, I don't think I did this right. California Guy: That's right. We here at every assignment, you know when we meet up again yeah I don't think I did this right and of course that's become my new favorite thing to hear. Because you know it means they're about to blow me away, it means they're about to do something totally unexpected with the prompt. that's another thing for anybody that might listen to this and is interested in putting together a workout. And you want to give your you know your students. Challenges you know I find don't try to you know, don't give them exercises where you know what the poem is going to look like when it's done don't have to fix an idea of what the finished product should look like, in fact, ideally, probably have no idea what the finished product is supposed to look like. You know the this you know, because the class is going to take it in their own direction anyway, you know and so long as they have the freedom to take it in their own direction. You know, it tends to get really exciting, because they will invariably show you things that you just did not see coming you know and I have seen that happen, you know from time to time, where you know, a workshop instructor will give an assignment with very specific instructions and the writer gets a better idea, and you know along the way the prompt inspires them, and you know, which is what you're hoping for, but then they sort of deviate from the rules of the project and take it in some new direction. You know and I've seen it happen, where, then the workshop leaders say, well, you did it wrong. And they didn't they did it right it's a creative writing class. They should be writing creatively, it would be, it would be an amazing if the one thing that got in their way was the assignment, you know. Hopefully we're just you know I mean any good prompt really should just be a means to get you started. yeah, just you know, because you know once the poet has some momentum, you know, let him go yeah. The Professor: Again, that comes back to that principle of acknowledging competence and having that expectation that people are going to produce something that will blow you away I'm kind of jealous for your high school students, because my high school poetry was never that good. So maybe we can talk a little bit about some of the other poetry workshops and classes that you've run so you talked a little bit about the poetry work that you did with individuals with dementia. And I know that you've done some work with Mike Biel maybe that's a good place to start and a lot of our listeners will know Mike.  California Guy: It was really interesting experience back in 2017 I got a letter from Michael Biel I believe he wrote to me through my website and I. He may remember this differently, but I recall that he had heard my name associated with the Alzheimer's poetry project, and he reached out and said look I run a book club for people with aphasia here in Los Angeles. And we've noticed a curious thing we look at all kinds of books, sometimes we read you know novels and sometimes we read you know, you know, a memoir and sometimes we do books of poetry, and whenever we do poetry group discussions become much more animated and engaged. And he said I wonder if it would be possible to lead a poetry writing workshop for people with aphasia I said, well, I you know I don't know how to. You know, work with people with aphasia so I'm just going to teach a workshop for writers and see what happens and if that's good with you will, will you know we'll see if this works, and so I came in and I started with you know lots of very basic prompts. Because I had some experience working with children. I was used to you know it's actually or what I should say I should back up and start with point over I'm fortunate enough that a lot of how I learned to teach started with kids because it affected how I work with adult. When I'm teaching writing workshops with adults, I will quite often bring in props and toys. I'll bring in games and things to sort of simulate creative fun, and so it occurred to me that if I was going to be in a room full of people who were having trouble thinking of words. That it might be smart to bring object, it might be straight, you know, in addition to bringing writing materials and examples of poems that I should bring you know seashells and bones and and uh you know pocket watches campuses you know can be just about us, you know anything I'm going I was bringing in rubber toys, in addition to simple poetry games and toys like magnetic poetry or Taylor molly's wonderful invention metaphor dice. And there's a bunch of these devices out there and I also spent an afternoon just writing random words on index cards. And I just brought in all of this stuff and I started out by talking to the group about what I liked about poetry asked them what they liked about poetry we looked at some different kinds of poetry that was very expansive but also lots of poetry, where the poets communicated in just a few words we looked at haiku poetry we looked at homes by Thomas transformer and we looked at a beautiful poem called silence by Laurence Dunbar Paul Laurence Dunbar I should say which the group really seem to enjoy it was all poem about when you don't need to speak and we looked at a bunch of different kinds and poems that seem to have no order to them and poems were the language was all over the page and we just started there and very slowly got a sense of who, who was comfortable taking a pen in their hands that day, who is comfortable just moving around pieces of paper with words on them desk who wanted to intersperse. You know words and dice and some of the objects together on the table in front of them and make a sentence that would have visual half you know language managing all of you know. And we did you know from session to session started that simply and we started to notice that you know from session to session, the group was becoming a little more fat file a little more comfortable with these materials and the work became more complex. Until You know yeah and I mean I think it's important to emphasize that I'm not talking about touring anything. You know and I'm not talking about poetry as a means to overcoming. A failure or repairing the brain, but what was interesting to me. More than interesting what was actually astonishing with that. There were a couple of students in that class who had given up on holding a pen. Because they had their, the aphasia they had was the result of multiple and severe strokes, which you know resulted in paralysis and you know they've given up on being able to you know steadily hold him suddenly being renewed in their desire to do so and actually managing to get. Like a pen. Steady in their good hands, knowing that if they could just get a few words, so they didn't have to construct a sentence, you know, a one student in particular began isolating nouns it took her while you know she would take the session to do it, she would start isolating the nouns that she wanted us and spacing them out with a live seeds using you know dots and dashes is connective tissue and you know, there was this sort of renewed vigor and You know she gone from you know she started out the first few sentences. Pointing you know to an assistant, you know pointing with an assistant at various things and saying you know put that next to that next to them and now she was taking the pen in our hand and starting to write poems out by hand. And then you know, once you know, and then, once she had the freedom to take you know, as I said, take the things home and work on it for a week. And you know she was there, you know whether index finger and making words on a keypad and doing the same thing, using an ellipse ease or dots and dashes or forward flashes to sort of you know uh, You know, do the work of articles and incidental words and just you know and then information was and then. California Guy: Oh yeah uh you know she was using dots and dashes and and various forms of you know, sometimes just period do the work of conjunctions and you know articles and connective tissue in her language and created this really vivid work. Michael and I decided that we would do a six-week session, and then we followed that with another eight-week session because the group really seem to enjoy themselves and wanted to do more of this and after the second eight week session, he was like Okay, you know. This is this is tested Now this is working over and over again and that's when I got to meet you because we went out to Asia camp in Wisconsin and tried to do some workshops there with a whole new group of folks and you know what started to happen in a really interesting way yeah. The Professor: So maybe we can talk a little bit about what's been happening in our group and kind of where it began, and where it's going those sorts of things kind of how we approach things on the on the front end and welcome kinds of supports are provided that sort of stuff. California Guy: Yeah, this has been a really interesting experience and again it's continued to broaden my understanding of you know what it means to be doing this kind of work. Oh, I'm at risk of a digression, but I think perhaps this is the context that will be helpful. hmm. At the same time I want to get a good handle on how I want to say this. The Professor: Yeah, that's cool. California Guy: As I said, poetry, when you study its origins from culture to culture, it really does seem to emerge in a pattern. And that pattern seems to be you know, of course, mostly of all languages, for the most part, begin spoken whether or not a culture will develop a written language it's not always the case, there are you know, there are exceptions around the world in cultures, where you know. A written tradition might not appear, or it might not appear, for a long time. But when the language is up and running, it does seem that, after a period of time people become aware that it falls short of expressing some very necessary things. That they're things that just cannot simply be named and that they need a special way to talk about special thing they need an intimate way to talk about intimate thing. And so you'll see people will start to use, there will be certain subjects for which they use only the most beautiful words in that language are only sacred words or they will as Pessoa says speak against the true nature of speech they'll give them music and unnatural rhythm or musicality they'll they'll give it a meter or they'll put it to music they'll they may even deliberately misuse their language for the purpose of fire communion because what it is that they seem to lack is an emotional vocabulary. And I think that's what that poetry provides is an emotional vocabulary and what I've seen with our particular group is this vocabulary gets bigger and bigger and bigger. And a famous poet said that poetry was a curious sort of language that is changed slightly by everyone who uses that well and. And our group has been sort of a microcosm for this, you know they started out very simply, and it seems to me that the first the first few efforts in poetry that we got on our on our very first session were largely sort of aphoristic that there were, you know that they there wasn't a lot of image, there was mostly there was mostly just sort of poems you know about being the best that you could be or being the happiest that you could be. They were poems that largely tend to be just sort of both writing encouragement and the more that they began to wait in from session to session to you know putting an emphasis on nouns over adjectives putting an emphasis on you know, on sensory details. On giving the language that kind of flow our rhythm and these kinds of things, and the more examples that they saw these the more different kinds of writing from which to draw upon you know presented to them with this is not a poem for you to imitate you're just looking at what the writer does and see if here's that word again if anything they're doing is useful to you and that you know by the third session we were seeing very vivid changes in how they were expressing themselves and it seemed to happen that fast, you know you know they've got a week between each session, you know so by the third session. You know there's you know, two weeks later. Suddenly, there are these very vivid transformation taking place, and not just in you know and with our with our Members that were, as you know, as we mentioned before, at very. You know, with very different kinds of trump you know and dealing with a very different sort of set of I don't I don't know whether to call and characteristics or pair of beiges or symptoms but you know one person in the group who for the most part is okay with sentence construction, but does tend to Max out over a period of time, and another person who you know who you know who needs two or three tries to get at you know at the sentence, they want and then you know, and then you know and get another person with a slightly more extreme case you know where they really can't very easily construct complete sentences at all on the first they really need some time you know to say let the words calm at their own pace, you know, and if they can't get the word say one you know get it, the words around the words they want. With interesting too and it's true at all levels of writing and by all levels, I don't mean all levels of people, you know that are in therapy with that, but I mean this is true of all writers in fact it's true of all our time has always been largely a question of what the artists does in dead of what they don't do well and that's where your true voice is going to become is going to come from and where it's going to be at its most particular and peculiar. You know. Billie Holiday didn't have a singer's voice neither did Janis Joplin it's what they did with what they fat instead of what they didn't do well, that made it interesting you know. You know, and I, and I guarantee you that if we were to talk to the people in our class about their own writing. I'm guessing that most of them were you know, or at least at the beginning, have felt that the very things that made their week writing week is just the things that to you and I make it the most interesting. You know, you know, and you know and for any writer in any class, you know who is looking at the radius around them and going well, I can't do what they do. No, you can't. Going right yeah. The Professor: Yeah. California Guy: Or rather don't make that her goal I don't I guess I wouldn't say don't try but don't make that your goal, because I guarantee you. You know weakness right like you. You know you're gonna have to you can't do what somebody else does you're gonna have to do what you do because trust me, none of us can. The Professor: Yeah, absolutely I love that metaphor of Janis Joplin and Billie Holiday that idea of don't try to do what you can't do what you can it's just such a powerful mindset. California Guy: When you're looking at supporting broke all over the place, I mean constantly falling off notes and leaving ABS of words, other than whatever what she gave us was so much more powerful you know I mean if she you know I started, and it is true, you know it's not always easy to get yourself in that mindset I get it, I mean I actually heard somebody say something to the effect that, like Thelonious monk was great if you didn't mind all the mistakes. Take you know where you take know your he did. Give me in the emotion, the raw emotion that's coming out on that keyboard. The thing that made my month. You know and made us want to keep going back you know you know those notes, some of them strong and some that are so frail You know, as you know, the way Hendrix would you know would blast through certain chords and combinations of notes and you know and just starting to fall off or get ahead of the bass, the bass, or you know it was just you know amazing you know that's where the artist that's where it gets spectacular. The Professor: And I do. California Guy: Yeah, and we've seen that again and again. The Professor: Yeah absolutely so I mean, so this podcast is about an approach, called the LIFE participation approach for aphasia and I think what we just talked about just really encapsulates that idea of doing what you can do not you know kind of dwelling on what you can't do is just such a great mantra for that that approach, you know one other thing that you do that, I think. Always kind of instills this sense of confidence in this sense of I can take on anything in the world, and I think for anyone who's thinking about a poetry class, this is just so powerful, and I bet you use this expression with your high school kids with anyone. I'm not going to say this right, but you know, sometimes there are words that are in you for 30 years that just needed to come out and this is the moment that they come out on a piece of paper. That idea that you've got things inside of you that want to be shared and that you know, this is just kind of a vehicle for sharing them I just think that. Expresses so much confidence and that they're that they're capable of doing anything, and I think that's powerful. California Guy: And I really you know for anybody that might be cynically going I was like well yeah but maybe you just had an awesome group. I you know I highly recommend that you just you just give it a shot. You know, and that you just you know you take your you take your expectations off of the end result and just you know going to find some poems that you think are interesting you know and be willing to share them with a group of people and be prepared to not have all the answers, in other words, you know, bringing a poem that you don't completely understand that you can't necessarily explain. You know and sit there with the group and wonder at it together. And because the truth of the matter is if a poet could have explained everything in their home down to the teacups they probably wouldn't have needed to write home. You know, and so you know if you're if you're willing to go into this with them and feel a little out of your depth, you know um. You know and just lead in and look at a handful of poems and just say okay we're gonna. You know what would we like about these poems what are these poems seem to do, how are they shaped you know. Is there anything with the poet does over and over is there, you know, is there something they only do once at the end that's really interesting you know well let's see if we can look up can do that, you know let's see if we can. You know, take that example and sort of run with it, and our own direction and I'll See you in a week you just pile up a few weeks to doing that and guarantee you you're going to see. You know, some changes, and if you if you can't find any problems to use you're not sure where to start writing poems to use in your workouts. Because there's just tons of gorgeous work. The Professor: yeah, that's terrific so Brendan I was gonna ask you about outcomes, but I have a different idea. If I share screen, will you read because you're a much better reader than I am some of the right out of the horse's mouth, some of the expressions about the poetry group that group members have shared, so this is what they said about. What poetry group means to them, I think you'll be able to see this there. I'll let you read a little bit and. California Guy: These quotes are examples of the therapeutic power of poetry. It's healing me it's all really helping me now. I'm healing leaps and bounds and other one says it makes me feel like my thoughts are coherent, whereas the rest of the time I don't feel like my thoughts are coherent it helps me bring my thoughts together. Another person says, I didn't know, I was a poet, I also didn't know, I was an international speaker it's pushing me outside of my comfort zone. I guess, I never realized that some of that stuff was in me and maybe I was trying to get it out, but I just didn't quite know how and it's just another avenue for. Another person ads it's helped me to focus my energy more it's helped me to focus my thoughts more because my putting words together oh sorry. I'm going to take that sorry going to take that quote again, it helped me to focus my energy more it's helped me to focus my thoughts more because my thoughts are scattered on a daily basis. Like I have trouble with concentration, I have troubled was putting words together and that kind of stuff So when I sit down and actually, I'm working on a phone it's like words come together miraculously. And I'm like wait a minute, if I could talk like this, all the time I'd be able to really communicate unfortunately life isn't about poetry. But it really has helped me it's given me the boost I need in life to realize that I am capable of something more than what my brain injury is making me capable of, yeah wonderful.  California Guy: Had you shared those important because I don't remember team that? The Professor: I wanted to throw them on you right now, so you get kind of red face. California Guy: Fear to make me cry in the middle of a podcast Thank you. Well yeah well that's miraculous and that's what you hope for, I should also say just and maybe I'm only saying it for myself. I do believe that the most successful that any writer can ever hope to be has nothing to do with publishing a book or having your name on a library or getting a Pulitzer it's not the green room, the most successful that I think you can reasonably hope to be is to meet somebody in your lifetime, who you know says. You know you wrote this thing and it stayed with me. You know. And that's it that's the green room that's you know and what's been interesting is that some of the folks in our groups I've started sharing their work outside of our class and are getting a really interesting response. One person and I guess, I can say first name is Katie was just telling me that. A piece that she wrote, is now being read at a funeral because somebody else you know she shared it with somebody else you know and You know, they were like this, this has to be this this get to what I can say. And you know I mean it's you know that's funny that's you know I mean how successful did you want to be. A waiter that's you know that beats the pants off of anything else you know and for somebody who you know already feels that a huge disadvantage to somebody who's already been dealing with. You know, living in recovery after traumatic brain injury to you know, to find that not only did they did they clarify something that they wanted to say, but that it was useful there's that word again for somebody else I mean that's. You know what are we after, not that oh. The Professor: Absolutely, and I think both of you and I have felt this sense after multiple groups multiple classes, where we just say I just continued to be blown away by what people produce. And how they continue to just knock through that ceiling that glass ceiling that just accomplish things that I just didn't know was in them and they certainly didn't know was in them. For some of them I think what if they had never been a part of that class, and you know to not have known what potential lies underneath you know all of the struggles that they've been through. I think that's the power of something like this is to just see them break through and gain confidence and continue to do things that they didn't think they were capable of doing. yeah yeah. So, I was gonna say it's been a great conversation and just a privilege to be a part of this this work with you anything else you want to say to our listeners and closing? California Guy: Just this. It has been my experience that writer's block is almost never a shortage of magic, it is almost always a surplus of judging. And if you can just take your expectations off of it, you know don't add it before anything lands on the page just let it happen. You will be amazed before you are halfway through. The Professor: Absolutely, and I think you've created a space where people can feel like they have no judgment, where they feel like they can share and be successful and fail and screw up and begin each poem with I think I did this wrong. Right. California Guy: Right and again it's always I mean it's like I said, it's my favorite here like as soon as I heard, like all this is going to be excellent. The Professor: Absolutely, if all therapy for speech language pathologist with people with aphasia and brain injury was like that. Right, I think I did this wrong I'm going to love it. Boy, we got great outcomes. California Guy: Yeah absolutely. Well, thank you so much for inviting me to participate yeah. The Professor: Thank you so much Brendan and see you next Thursday. California Guy: Next Thursday man. The Professor: Alright, thanks. Bye-Bye.

På skolgården står tre nynazister. Rozbeh Aslanian går fram till ledaren och slår honom till marken. Det blir början på resa präglad av upplopp, misshandel, dödshot - och moderskärlek. Jag trodde verkligen att jag gjorde samhället en tjänst, att jag skulle rensa stan på fascister genom våld och hot. Där och då var det att jag ville göra mamma stolt. Att jag hade fortsatt hennes kamp och omformat den till min samtid. Den här programserien handlar om våld som begås av män. Det är historier om jakten på bekräftelse, makt pengar och manlighet. Vi vill veta var våldet kommer ifrån och hur männen bakom våldet resonerar. Bara det faktum att andra män uppmärksammade mig var en enorm bekräftelse. Nu ska ni få för allt gammalt, alla de dagarna när jag blev misshandlad i skolan eller när de kom och klottrade rasistiska slagord på mitt skåp. Jag har i hela mitt liv använt knytnävarna för att få igenom min åsikt. Men det var ju så fel, säger Rozbeh. Programserien Männen bakom våldet är ett samarbete med Teater Fryshuset och Riksteatern och föreställningen Bye Bye bror - om att lämna en kriminell livsstil och destruktiv manlig identitet. Mer information om pjäsen Bye Bye Bror hittar du på Teater Fryshusets hemsida. Vill du komma i kontakt med Fryshusets avhopparverksamhet Passus kan du göra det här. Ett program av Karwan Faraj. Producent: Martin Jönsson

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Jakob är 19 år när han går med i gänget. En kväll misshandlar han en man och hoppar på hans huvud. Han slänger den medvetslösa kroppen i ett vattendrag. Jag kände mig som en riktig man. Jag kände mig odödlig. Ingen kan komma åt mig, ingen kan röra mig. Jag svävar på moln efter en sån grej. Det jag kände efteråt var stolthet och glädje. Den här programserien handlar om våld som begås av män. Det är historier om jakten på bekräftelse, makt pengar och manlighet. Vi vill veta var våldet kommer ifrån och hur männen bakom våldet resonerar. Jag tyckte utpressningarna var roligast. För där fick jag verkligen vara våldsam på ett väldigt brutalt sätt. Jag märker att den här personen är väldigt rädd för mig och det ger mig bekräftelse och matar min manlighet. Det var därför jag, hur sjukt det än låter, tyckte att det här var det roligaste, för det var i de uppdragen som jag fick mest bekräftelse. Programserien Männen bakom våldet är ett samarbete med Teater Fryshuset och Riksteatern och föreställningen Bye Bye bror - om att lämna en kriminell livsstil och destruktiv manlig identitet. Mer information om pjäsen Bye Bye Bror hittar du på Teater Fryshusets hemsida. Vill du komma i kontakt med Fryshusets avhopparverksamhet Passus kan du göra det här. Ett program av Karwan Faraj. Producent: Martin Jönsson

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Astronomy compels the soul to look upwards and leads us from this world to another; A wise man named Plato once said. Mary Stewart Adams has been on a journey of star communication and celestial wonder for what seems like her entire life. A star lore historian, leading dark sky advocate, author, and astrologist who weaves the esoteric knowledge of spiritual science, literature, ancient mythologies, and fairy tales into contemporary astronomy and astrosophy star wisdom. Mary's relationship with the stars is more than a personal journey; It's a quest to inspire others to know and understand the stars in a way that strengthens what it means to be a human living in the 21st Century. In what feels like an other-worldly conversation, Tahnee and Mary weave their way through Egyptian/Greek mythology, Rudolf Steiner's philosophy of anthroposophy, astronomy, and fairytales, all of which are threads in man's eternal relationship with the stars. It's not every day you get to listen to someone like Mary speak; her words will leave you longing for a deeper awareness of the constellations above. Her understanding as a star lore historian and unique expression of this ancient knowledge is truly something divine. Enjoy ~ We can describe our environment as everything that we can see, and we can see as far as the Andromeda galaxy without the use of the telescope. And so all of it is our environment, and it belongs to us, then we belong to it. So even though we can see it's far away from us, finding the stars reveals something deeply intimate to being human. - Mary Stewart Adams   Tahnee and Mary discuss: Astrology and astronomy. The theory of seven year cycles. Egyptian and Greek star Mythology. Constellation mythology and fairytales. Building a relationship with the night sky. Rudolf Steiner's work on the platonic year. Tropical, sidereal, and Heliocentric astrology. Gregorian, Julian and Egyptian solar calendars. International dark sky movement; protecting natural darkness. Rudolf Steiner's philosophy of anthroposophy and star wisdom. Ancient architecture and ceremonial practises connected to star knowledge.    Who is Mary Stewart Adams? Mary Stewart Adams is a Star Lore Historian, and host of the weekly public radio program and podcast “The Storyteller’s Night Sky."  Through her research in spiritual science and her education in literary arts, Mary has developed a unique, humanities-based approach to understanding our relationship with the stars.  Her work is further augmented by an extensive knowledge of ancient mythologies and fairy tales, which she relates to the research and ideas of contemporary astronomy in order to understand the new star wisdom of astrosophy. Mary has traveled extensively in fulfillment of her mission to safeguard the human imagination by protecting our access to the night sky and its stories, and has received numerous honors for her work. As a global advocate for starry skies, Mary led the team that established the 9th International Dark Sky Park in the world in 2011, which later led to her home state of Michigan protecting 35,000 acres of state land for its natural darkness. Mary’s research in human biography and the stars began in 1981, when, at the propitious destiny moment in the life of the young adult, she opened her first book of mystery wisdom.  Mary’s book The Star Tales of Mother Goose~For Those Who Seek the Secret Language of the Stars, richly illustrated by her sister, artist Patricia Delisa, published in April 2021. Mary is available for private readings, star parties, and public lectures, both online and in conscientiously-planned environments. As a dark-sky advocate and member of the International Dark Sky Association, Mary is keen on assisting communities that seek protection for natural darkness and starry skies.   Resources: Mary's Facebook Mary's Instagram Star Lore Website Storytellersnightsky.com Mary's weekly radio reading The Star Tales Of Mother Goose International Dark Sky Association Q: How Can I Support The SuperFeast Podcast? A: Tell all your friends and family and share online! We’d also love it if you could subscribe and review this podcast on iTunes. Or  check us out on Stitcher, CastBox, iHeart RADIO:)! Plus  we're on Spotify!   Check Out The Transcript Here:   Tahnee: (00:00) Technology. Okay. I think we're recording now. Hi everybody, and welcome to the SuperFeast podcast. Today, I'm talking to Mary Adams, she's a star law historian, and I'm really excited to be talking to her. I feel like her work has come into my life at a really important time. For over 20 years, Mary has been working with this kind of extensive knowledge of spiritual science, of literature, of ancient mythology and fairytales.   Tahnee: (00:31) And she relates these concepts to contemporary astronomy in order to help us understand the new star wisdom of anthroposophy, which is based on the work of Rudolf Steiner. So I'm excited to hear more about that. And Mary has also worked with Dark Sky Programmes. I've been to two Dark Sky parks, and I was really excited to hear your connection to this Mary, because there's such incredible places to just be with the stars.   Tahnee: (00:54) And she's also worked a lot with fairytale, Moon Calendars. She has an ongoing weekly radio series. She works one-on-one with people, and she has a new book coming out, which I've ordered for my daughter and myself. And her work is really to help us understand and reconnect with the stars. And that's something that's become really resonant for me in the last five years or so. So I'm really grateful and excited to have you here today Mary.   Mary Stewart Adams: (01:17) Thank you. It's such a pleasure. Thank you.   Tahnee: (01:18) Yeah. Really excited. And sorry, I did miss your Stewart, you're Mary Stewart Adams? I heard you describe on another podcast, how you were the Stewart before the French got to you. [crosstalk 00:01:29] And I remembered it, E-W-A-R-T, Stewart. Yeah. So I wonder, your background, how did you connect to the stars? What was your story to bring you to [inaudible 00:01:47] today.   Mary Stewart Adams: (01:47) I'm the seventh of eight children and I was always longing for more relationship with my mom, I would say. When you're the number seven, there's a lot going on in the life of the mother and I don't fault to her with that, but I was always looking for ways to connect. And one of the things that really intrigued me as a child was big words.   Mary Stewart Adams: (02:10) I liked big words and I couldn't wait to use big words to have real conversations with my mom. And then it was just a gradual step. She read to me a lot of nursery rhymes, a lot of fairy tales. And then one of the first things I remember is standing next to a horse fence with her looking up at the sky. And she had this bowl in her hands that had a... It was created so that you could have an imaginary horizon and move the bowl to see what time of night it was and which stars would be over the horizon.   Mary Stewart Adams: (02:44) And I wasn't so much trying to learn that as I was just wanting to be with my mom. So it was really about relationship. And I think that's one of the beautiful things about learning to know the night sky, is that the easiest way to find stars and constellations is knowing them according to whom they're next to. How does that relate to the environment that it's in? And I think that's one of the gifts that the stars give us, is that ability to relate to one another as human beings. So that's really where it began.   Tahnee: (03:18) Yeah. Your little neighbourhood of star friends.   Mary Stewart Adams: (03:22) Yeah. And really climbing up on my mom's shoulders to have a look, but it was really about being with her. Because I think the very young don't need to be pulled out into the stars. I mean, they just can appreciate the natural world and it isn't until teenagers, young adults, then it starts to become important I think to know, all right. Now I should be able to identify things in my environment.   Tahnee: (03:47) Yeah. And make that, because that was what really landed for me. One day I looked up and I was like, I mean, I know a couple of the really obvious constellations. My dad was pretty big on teaching us the basics, but I really, I was like, "Well, I don't really, I couldn't look at this as a map and really know my way through," and I couldn't identify some of the really major constellations in the astrological kind of sign constellations and stuff. And yeah, it's just something that landed for me that, I was like, "I want to know this. I want to know this language." Did that come later for you that brew longing or...   Mary Stewart Adams: (04:23) Yeah. I mean, it's a significant moment I think, when you start to realise that you want to know that. I was introduced to astrology at the same time that I first heard the name Rudolf Steiner. So it was meeting his anthroposophy and astrology at the same time when I was 18. So it was pretty young and really astrology was a lot easier to get a hold of than the anthroposophy was.   Mary Stewart Adams: (04:48) But again, it was, my mom having conversations about these things with my older sister and I'm still lusting after this relationship. And so I thought, I need to figure this stuff out so I can, I need to be part of what's going on. I don't know, have the sense that when you're one of the younger children in a large family, you always feel like you're trying to catch up.   Tahnee: (05:09) I can't imagine. I mean, I'm the eldest too. So it's not any relationship [crosstalk 00:05:14]   Mary Stewart Adams: (05:14) But I have no fear of missing out.   Tahnee: (05:16) I know, but I can imagine that you're, yeah. You're like this little being kind of seeing these conversations going on and really longing to be a part of that. And I can imagine the drive and the fire that, that puts in you.   Mary Stewart Adams: (05:29) Yeah. And longing is really important as even though longing can be difficult. It really drives a lot of what we do as human beings. We long for things, and that can be an inspiration or a motivation. So I started to really study astrology. It just immediately made sense, was like, "I get it." There's this definition of the planet, Saturn and it has a particular mood.   Mary Stewart Adams: (05:55) And if you put it here, that mood is coloured a certain way, you move it over here, it's coloured a different way. And I thought, okay, this is just like a living jigsaw puzzle, was really what I felt. And so it was like, "I get it." I really can. Now, I can figure everything else out that way. And I really just wanted to study my own chart and just see that it did occur to me pretty early on that this was coming out of ancient cultures and that something we were just talking about, but they weren't wrong.   Mary Stewart Adams: (06:27) And we might think that this was some wild idea that ancients had that we each come from a star, but I really felt like if this was true, then it must be knowable. And if it's knowable, then I'm going to know it, I want to find that. So it graduated from wanting to be in relationship with my mom and my older siblings and be in the conversation to now wanting to be related to ancient cultures in this kind of wisdom that comes to us out of what are called the mystery schools.   Mary Stewart Adams: (06:53) It's like, "All that unknowable stuff. I want to know all of that." Yeah. And then it was actually when I then became a parent, I was at that point started to read charts just for friends. And my daughter came into the room and she said, "What are you doing?" And I said, well, "I'm reading the story of somebody's life, the way it's written in the stars." She was pretty young. So I thought just really creative answer.   Mary Stewart Adams: (07:17) And she said, well, "You're cheating." And I said, "What do you mean I'm cheating?" And she said, "Well, you need to be out reading the stars." And this was a really remarkable moment for me because at that moment I realised, "Wow, I don't know what the constellations look like." I had had this experience in my childhood with my mom, but it wasn't about being able to identify constellations. It was just sharing something.   Mary Stewart Adams: (07:45) And so then I started to teach myself about the constellations, and my experience of that journey is that, I've said this before, but just that when we start on this path of seeking to know the stars, what we find out is they are also seeking to know us. And the only way to explain that is, you can't really explain it. You have to experience it. And so this quest to know the names of the stars and the shape of the constellations, and then the next level of that for me is, "Well, who named them? Where does this conflict?"   Mary Stewart Adams: (08:23) Yeah. Right. [crosstalk 00:08:25] And then I think why, and then it's fascinating to look at least in Western culture, what happens in the age of exploration? Like the 16 hundreds, when now explorers are going out to different parts of the world and seeing stars over regions of the sky that were not available to Claudius Ptolemy and those that are coming out of the Greek, the way it moved toward the West.   Mary Stewart Adams: (08:50) And so now the race is on, and the 16 hundreds to start creating new constellations. But at that point in human history, it was no longer understood that we come from a star. So there weren't these deep mythologies and deep cultural influences connected to why you would name a region of sky a certain way. And I think this gets lost in the conversation about constellations, because there are these ancient constellations. And then there are these kinds of newfangled ones that are just based on what they might look like. And, that has consequences.   Tahnee: (09:25) Yeah. Well, that's so interesting. You bring that up because one of the things I've found interesting and I don't have a strong reaction to it, but I'm just curious that our indigenous people here in Australia, had certain constellations and I've my partner had quite a close relationship with a leader from a tribe. And he was saying that they believed they were from the Pleiades.   Tahnee: (09:48) And there's this kind of real sense of, yeah. For them, the stars aren't just this kind of concept or an abstract like mental conception, but they're literally a part of their living. And I think it's something that we've come over late, our own versions of things. And the way of the world, but yeah, it's what is there to learn from these traditions that helps us make some sense of the land that we live on and the environment that we live on and...   Mary Stewart Adams: (10:19) Right. Yeah. And it's also, Pleiades is the most storied about group of stars in the sky...   Tahnee: (10:26) The sisters.   Mary Stewart Adams: (10:28) Yeah the sisters. And it's oftentimes related to creation myths and stories of becoming. And in fact Rudolf Steiner makes a reference to Pleiades, that this is the point through which we enter our universe. So really, really takes it back to a deep place of creation and the brightest star in Pleiades, at least according to the Greek and then moving through the Arabic culture. It has the name Alcyone, which means foundation stone. So it's like, this is the foundation on which we stand to become in our realm of being. Yeah. So it's really lovely that way.   Tahnee: (11:10) Goosebumps, again. Yeah. Because I think that's something that I... Yeah, when you hear those kinds of things and then you look, one of the things I'm really drawn to is looking across time and different myths, kind of misbearing cultures and where the similarities are. And like she was saying I can't remember this was, before we were talking just now, but you were saying about the knowing it's about, yeah. You sort of, okay, multiple people have seen this and experienced it over time. Can I have a direct experience of this? And then that makes it true for me. And and as a young child, Pleiades you're always so drawn to it and I've heard you speak about this. My cat is now visiting.   Mary Stewart Adams: (11:54) Okay.   Tahnee: (11:57) I've heard you speak about when you want to learn to connect to a star that you sort of find the one you're drawn to and then learn about it. So I'm curious just to jump into that, if you're a new stargazer, and even if you're in a city where you don't have a lot of access to stars, how do you recommend people in the modern world, who maybe don't have access to these myths and these stories, how do they find the star?   Mary Stewart Adams: (12:20) What I think, well, what I did was to get a map. And of course this was the day before apps. And I still will say maps, not apps because I like to have a map in my hands. And what I like to do is to orient a guy, I have to get into my environment and say, "All right, which direction is North, South, East, West?" Get the Cardinal points. And then looking at the map, figure out where is the thing that I want to see? Is it in the Southwest? Is it in the Northeast?   Mary Stewart Adams: (12:54) And what time of day can it be seen or night? Rather, can it be seen and where do I need to go to see it? And what starts to happen is you're building a relationship with the environment, because now you're thinking very specifically in the geography where you find yourself. And this has a consequence, it's like you're building a container, so that you can think about something that seems to be really, really far away from us.   Mary Stewart Adams: (13:18) So far away from us, that scientists will say that the light that's coming from certain stars has taken so long to get here, that the star isn't even there anymore. Which is to me a really crushing thought because there's something about being affirmed when the light finally reaches us. And I feel like that moment is really sacred and it gets lost in this idea for me. And I'm not saying that it's necessarily so, but I feel lost in that thought like, "No, it's not that old because I'm present, I'm in the now moment."   Mary Stewart Adams: (13:50) But just to really build a container in the environment for knowing, whereas Pleiades is going to be relative to my horizon tonight. Will I see it? And then out of that, you start to develop a relationship seasonally to what things are visible in which season. And then how does this inform when we look back into cultures prior to our own time, really prior to the use of electricity, how did this inform seasonal celebrations? Is it connected to what stars are overhead?   Mary Stewart Adams: (14:26) And I'm also fond of saying that when we think about our environment, I would like to say, okay. So our environment can be described by everything that we can see, and we can see as far as the Andromeda galaxy, about the use of the telescope. And so all of it is our environment. So it belongs to us, we belong to it. So really even though we can see it's really far away from us finding the stars, it reveals something that's deeply intimate to being human.   Tahnee: (15:00) Yeah. I've read or heard. I'm trying to remember where I got this from but I seem to recall one of Rudolf Steiner's big teachings was that it's our job to reconnect to the stars in this time of humanity. I might, I'm on the money obviously. So could you explain?   Mary Stewart Adams: (15:17) Yeah. So this really wonderful verse that he gave to his wife in 1922, pretty popular in the anthroposophical community called the Stars Spoke Once to Man. So it's the stars, I'll see humanity, the stars spoke once to humanity, but it is world destiny that they are silent now. So this is, looking back at, at least as far back as the time of ancient Egyptian culture. When you can see that there was a great deal of architecture and at least as far as we can discern ceremonial practise, that was connected to a knowledge of the stars.   Mary Stewart Adams: (15:55) And that there is the idea in this verse, at least that this was the time when the human beings could still understand the speaking of the stars. And that to look at the gestures made between the planets relative to the stars was like a speaking of the divine. As we become more aware of ourselves, physically in the physical world and less aware of our roots in the celestial spiritual world, that kind of knowledge goes silent, takes thousands of years, but then we become more conscious in the physical world and less aware of ourselves as spiritual beings.   Mary Stewart Adams: (16:30) And this is world destiny. We have to become aware here in the physical, but the threat is that we will fall asleep and forget our connection. Forget that we have an origin that is, of course we get this physical body, the physical stuff from the physical earth. But the soul spirit nature is coming from beyond this and that in the human being, we have this kind of threefold nature that unites, but the risk is that we'll forget and sink just into the physical and not know that we come from a star or that we have a soul. And that it's the mediator between the physical and the spiritual.   Mary Stewart Adams: (17:06) And so the continuation of the verse is that this experience of the silencing of the stars can be pain for earthly humanity. There's pain in remembering, or at least knowing that once there was this great connection, but then out of the silence and out of this pain, their grows and their ripens, what the human being is speaking to the stars. And to be aware of this speaking can bring strength for the future human being.   Mary Stewart Adams: (17:35) And so really the quest now, is not so much, how do I get back to know the stars, the way the ancient Egyptians did. But how do I know the stars as a person living in the 21st century with all of this technology that's available to us and all of everything that's happening in our environment? How can I have a direct encounter in a way that is strengthening my ability to be human in the world right now?   Mary Stewart Adams: (18:01) And I think that this is really important because so many of us live where we're cut off from the natural world and from being able to see the stars. And that's really, what's behind the international dark sky movement, is to protect natural darkness, wherever it is, and to look at how it's affecting habitat and the habitats that we share with all of the creatures of the earth and how we use our energy resources, how we're affecting our own health and wellbeing.   Mary Stewart Adams: (18:29) And then for me, it was not only that, but we need to have a kind of thinking to meet the challenges of our day that is really rich in imagination. I think it was Albert Einstein said you can't solve the problem with the same thinking that got you into the problem. So these pointing at the fact that we need a new thinking, and this is where the imagination starts to work and imagination as the kind of thinking that's about the world that we don't know, maybe we used to know it, but we no longer know that.   Mary Stewart Adams: (19:05) And we just have to begin to develop an imagination so that it can start to speak again. And so what I... This is where I go with that. It's like, "Okay, when I'm in the dark, if I'm in a dark space, I can either be inside or outside, but just truly dark. What's the first thing that starts to happen? Your mind starts to, you start to imagine."   Mary Stewart Adams: (19:27) So imagination has its roots in the unknown, which we usually equate with being dark. That it's not unhealthy, it's really healthy to be in the dark and to let the imagination begin to move so we can know it, and then start to develop it to meet the world and to meet what faces us.Yeah.   Tahnee: (19:48) Because I mean, you think about myth and every coach has these stories with, the hero goes into the darkness or the heroine and the great learning of the great experience happens. And then they bring this back to the world above and become these really powerful important figures in a community. And I mean, a lot of the traditions, I've studied Taoism and in yoga. They use dark rooms and dark... One of my teachers runs a three-week dark retreat, when you live in a dark house for three weeks and do all these wacky practises.   Tahnee: (20:27) But what that also does the dreaming on a chemical level that stimulates a little turned into converting to DMT. And we open up into this kind of Chemonics space, I suppose. And I think that's something that we've sort of lost in our culture is that, a lot of these great scientists, they didn't think their way into these insights that they had. They had tracks of intuition.   Mary Stewart Adams: (20:56) Of inspiration. Right.   Tahnee: (20:56) Yeah. And I think that's, when you think about what's going to get us out of some of the messes that we're in. It's probably not going to come from sitting down and thinking about it. I know for me, in my experience, like any of those strong pivotal moments of change in my life have come through, either a lot of suffering, and pain, death and those kinds of big events that really change you or through, yeah. Things that have...   Mary Stewart Adams: (21:21) That throw you even emotionally or psychologically into the dark?   Tahnee: (21:26) Yeah. And then...   Mary Stewart Adams: (21:26) And I think that we can prepare for being in the dark the same way we might meditate in order to create inner space of tranquillity and calm so that when things are really hectic, you can meet it with that, what you've already cultivated in yourself. I have this experience at night sometimes when it's really dark and you're awake, but the activity of perception is engaged, but you can't see physically and it's like you can see inwardly.   Tahnee: (21:59) I've had that experience.   Mary Stewart Adams: (21:59) Yeah. And I think that that's something that we can really cultivate and be conscious of. I can take advantage of that and have a practise that's connected to that. And it's not to say that intellect is bad, but that, because we need to use intellectual cognition in order to then kind of articulate what we're being inspired with, and make it meet the physical world that we're in, but we need access to something that's greater than this. And I feel like the natural darkness does that.   Mary Stewart Adams: (22:27) And then the stars, I mean, you think about a star, it's shining through the dark, but it's not diminishing the dark. It doesn't take darkness away. And it's, I think about this like, "Okay, how do I do that?" How do I do like a star? where you shine. But you let something be so free that you don't diminish where it is even though you're shining toward it. Beautiful, I think it's a beautiful thought.   Tahnee: (22:56) It is a beautiful thought and a beautiful way to live really because yeah, I think it, I mean, I think that sense of the lessons that are held in the stars and the personalities, and I mean, I've been delving a little bit into planetary relationships with herbs and just with us as well. And I think that, obviously planets are big stars.   Tahnee: (23:25) But yeah, I mean, I think that's something that even our astrology, that we're probably in this really powerful relationship with everything we can be observing within that, I just think about the movement of the sky and our place on this earth and how everything's affecting us. And we've sort of really lost touch with that. And [crosstalk 00:23:46]   Mary Stewart Adams: (23:46) And I mean, yeah, we're having. Yeah, go ahead.   Tahnee: (23:49) Well, I was just going to say, does that come in when you're thinking about people's charts and your own astrology? But yeah.   Mary Stewart Adams: (23:55) Yeah, it does. And I also in a much it's just this beautiful harmony that happens between the human being and the earth where, and this is something that I learned through a study of Rudolf Steiner's work about something that's called the great year or the platonic year. And it has to do with the wobble of the earth on its axis. All right. So this took centuries for human beings to figure this out. To be able to measure the rotation of the earth on its axis, which gives us a cycle of night and day.   Mary Stewart Adams: (24:26) And then to really concretely say, "Yes, the earth is in motion around the sun. So we have this orbital rhythm of about 365 days, but then also that earth is wobbling." So as it's rotating or it's wobbling along, and the wobble takes 25,920 years. So it's a really long time, but it's also, you could say it's like 172nd of a degree each year.   Mary Stewart Adams: (24:50) It's hard to measure in the space of one life, but after 72 years, earth has wobbled one full degree. That's the thing to hold on to like, "Okay, I can manage that." Then you look at the human being in the respiratory system, we breathe on average about 18 times a minute. And there's 60 minutes in an hour, 24 hours in a day. So we breathe 25,920 times in every 24 hour cycle, which is in this microcosmic complete harmony with this wobbling.   Mary Stewart Adams: (25:27) But you can say it is like the breathing of the earth. It's a living breathing being. And we are living and breathing with this being, really microcosmically. But then also this 70 seconds and the degree, shows up in the mythology of Osiris that when his mother, who was told that she was pregnant with him, I can never remember their names exactly.   Mary Stewart Adams: (25:53) So I think it's Geb is the God who knows that if he has an offspring, he'll be overtaken. So of course he doesn't want to have any children because he wants to remain top dog. So when she gets pregnant, he curses her and says, you shall give birth to this child in no month and in no year in the Egyptian calendar. But then Thoth, he is gambling with the moon and he wins the 72nd part of every day from the moon.   Mary Stewart Adams: (26:18) And after he has five full days together, he puts it at the end of the Egyptian calendar because it belongs to the no month and no year, then she can give birth. So she gives birth to Osiris, Seth, Typhon, Nephthys, and Isis. So these five great gods and goddesses of the Egyptian Pantheon. And it's this 72nd part of the day that Thoth is winning away from the moon. It's like, "Okay, they had this idea. They were already able to measure this wobble, which causes procession. It's just fascinating."   Mary Stewart Adams: (26:52) And then, when you look astrologically, one of the things that I've learned through a study of ancient astrological tradition is that the idea that we each come from a star is rooted in this rhythm. And so that when we descend from the star toward the physical incarnation, you could imagine it this way. It's as though there's 72 years of life force. And of course not, everybody's going to live for 72 years. Some will die before that time. Some will live much longer than that.   Mary Stewart Adams: (27:25) But that, in the normal course of human evolution, we'll say it that way, that there is this imparting of forces from the celestial spiritual world that's connected to this breathing of the earth and the breaths that we take and the heartbeat and that you can then look at the life in these really interesting cycles that fit into that 72 year rhythm. And after 72 years, it's like you come back into relationship with your star, because the earth has wobbled enough, but now you have a direct relationship with God. Again, it's like the sun moves on and says, "Okay, handing you back."   Tahnee: (28:03) Back to the stars. I was just wondering if that correlates to this idea of the sidereal astrology and the tropical Zodiac and how we as, I'm always curious about that, I guess, because it's something that I wonder if where, even reading accurately, if we're using it. So... yeah [crosstalk 00:28:22]   Mary Stewart Adams: (28:22) It can be confusing. Yes. And it is directly related to that. So the reason the tropical and sidereal do not agree is because of this wobble, because if you imagine [inaudible 00:28:31] so the point of Equinox, when the sun seems to cross the celestial equator, is that, well, let me step back, one step further. The celestial equator is just the equator of the earth projected out into space.   Mary Stewart Adams: (28:48) And so I'm going to make a motion that you can see because we're on a screen, those who are listening, won't see this, but if you have this projection out and you slightly wobble, you can see that that point is moving. So the sun is crossing over that celestial equator slightly earlier, every year. And after 72 years, it's a whole degree earlier after 2000 years, it's a long way earlier. And so the point of beginning processes, and when we get to the time of the beginning, the way they Gregorian calendar is marked, it starts with the birth of the Christ child.   Mary Stewart Adams: (29:26) And at that point, actually the tropical and sidereal Zodiacs agreed at zero degrees of Aries. Since that time it's been processing. If you go back further than that, before you get to the Gregorian calendar and you have the Julian calendar system, and before that you have the Egyptian solar calendars. The Equinox is during... The Egyptian era it's the point of the Equinox when the sun is in front of Taurus. And so the bull is sacred and then this procession begins.   Mary Stewart Adams: (29:55) It doesn't begin, it continues on, and then you get to, for instance, the story of Jason and the Argonauts, and they have to go off to win the golden fleece. So this is related to Aries and part of what he has to do to win the golden fleece is he has to tame the fire-breathing bull. So he's got to overcome this kind of influence out of this ancient culture.   Mary Stewart Adams: (30:16) So the culture prior to their own, like the Egyptians had the bull. Now we're going to the fleece. So this is the procession from Taurus into Aries. And then you see the Christian symbolism that is oftentimes described by the symbol of a fish. So that's Pisces, who are into the Piscean age. And so the procession of the Equinox is something that's followed in sidereal and accounted for.   Mary Stewart Adams: (30:40) And sidereal means relative to the stars. Whereas with the tropical, it's fixed to the zero point as being at the beginning of Aries and that the sun is there on March 20th or 21st, which is no longer true. And so it's not, I want to qualify this though immediately and say, I don't think it's an error to use the tropical Zodiac. It's just to recognise that it has to do more with the physical, more with the day wake, more kind of with the egoic personality.   Mary Stewart Adams: (31:15) But then when we want to do the work of the soul and the spirit, then we move into the sidereal, at least with the soul nature. And then with the heliocentric. So looking toward the planetary system from the sun, then you get more with the spiritual nature. So it's kind of this three-fold way of looking, but first you have to grapple with, "Okay, am I dealing with my day wake personality, self? How aware am I of my soul? Can I actually touch the spirit?" And so all of it can be read.   Mary Stewart Adams: (31:49) I have a dear friend that does this wonderful work, he calls Foundational Flows, where he takes a few planets, he takes mercury, Venus and Mars. And I'm not going to be able to explain exactly how he's arrived at this relationship between these three planets, but looking at them in the tropical Zodiac, the sidereal Zodiac and the heliocentric Zodiac, and doing an exercise to align them within yourself, it's a really wonderful work. And it helps us to harmonise in that relationship to myself and who I am when I'm awake in the world and then in my soul nature and my spiritual nature.   Tahnee: (32:31) I think that's such a beautiful because I think, I mean, I haven't looked a whole lot into it, I've definitely never looked into the heliocentric Zodiac. But sidereal, thinking of that soul personality being slightly different to that egoic personality, that just makes a lot of sense to me in terms of my lived experience.   Mary Stewart Adams: (32:53) Yes. And it's also it's, I mean, this gets pretty esoteric, but one of the experiences that would result from initiation into higher spiritual knowledge is that the flow of time is different in the different realms. So in our day, wake world with the sun rising in the East, going overhead, setting in the West, we live in a linear fashion. Beginning, middle, end, it goes kind of in a straight line.   Mary Stewart Adams: (33:22) But then when we sleep, when we dream, when we die, we are beyond this realm and things move from their end to their beginning. And when I think about this and try to imagine, is that something that I can become aware of while I'm embodied in life and the closest I've come so far. Because I really feel like I'm a neophyte at this. It's just, all right. So the sun rising in the East, setting in the West, but then when I go to sleep, I'm laying horizontally on my bed, on the earth and the earth is turning from the West back to the East.   Mary Stewart Adams: (33:56) So in the day, like my day wake personality, my ego is illuminated for me by the light of the sun, and it's going in a particular direction. But then when I go to sleep, something else is a different level of consciousness that's operating and it's moving in the exact opposite direction, and they don't cancel each other out. So for me, it's not necessary to say it's got to be either tropical or Sidereal.   Mary Stewart Adams: (34:26) It's like they're both operating. And we fix things in place so that we can come to awareness. For centuries, there was a teaching that the earth was fixed at the centre, even though the Pythagoreans taught that the earth was in motion, but that was mystery wisdom. You didn't just go talking about it with your neighbour because it was, it would be unsettling because first there has to become this conscious awareness of, I'm incarnate on the earth and the earth is stable and it can hold me.   Mary Stewart Adams: (34:58) And once I become mature enough in my relationship to being embodied and being on the earth, then I can set it in motion. And we got the scientific revolution now it's okay. Now everybody, "Hey, the earth is moving." Now you can talk about it on the corner with your neighbour.   Mary Stewart Adams: (35:13) This is common knowledge, but then the threat is that we'll forget that, "We came from something, something that emotion that stilled itself so we could become aware." And then, yeah, so this is, I think the challenge right now, I'm trying to take hold of star knowledge again, in a way that doesn't separate from the awareness, we can develop the scientific thinking, but also doesn't lose an awareness of our spiritual nature.   Tahnee: (35:47) Just is for me sounding so much like just the individual human journey, it's like we come in and we need that security of family and community to make us feel safe and land here in this body in this time. And then we have to push back against that and develop through those kinds of years of our twenties and thirties and things. And then it's almost we come back full circle to remembering.   Mary Stewart Adams: (36:14) And we're growing through it. So in the first years of our life, where we are held very closely, and this would be described in esoteric astrology, and maybe in just general astrology as living through the moon sphere. So we live on the earth, we're below the moon. So the first seven years of the life are kind of contained with that. The moon has us at its centre, no matter what is going on with whether the planets are orbiting us, orbiting the sun or not it's, the moon is orbiting the earth, and we are right in the centre. We're at the core of that.   Mary Stewart Adams: (36:48) And then we begin to breathe out and grow beyond that. And our relationships move from those that are defined by the bloodline, into which we are born, into those that come out of the comic encounter, shared spiritual striving, other things that define our relationships, that then allow us to become more cosmopolitan, more worldly, more earth conscious, aware of ourselves as having this origin beyond something other than just this family that held us ideally, very securely and beautifully in the beginning.   Tahnee: (37:24) I heard you speak of Saturn and the moon, being related in terms of time. And also, because I was actually speaking to a friend who's in her fifties about her next Saturn return. Okay. Well, I am right now.   Tahnee: (37:39) It's sort of a running joke in our office, I'm like, [inaudible 00:37:43]   Mary Stewart Adams: (37:43) Yeah, I do. Well, there's a... I read a quote [inaudible 00:37:47] not too long ago, "You must own your Saturn."   Tahnee: (37:51) Look, And I mean, it's such a powerful and important transition as well. A lot of grace and gratitude for that time. But when you're in it, it's pretty wild. Yeah. Could you re remind me of that relationship-   Mary Stewart Adams: (38:07) Yeah. I can talk about it. [crosstalk 00:38:09]   Tahnee: (38:09) Yeah, that was really interesting.   Mary Stewart Adams: (38:10) It's good to know. I think because when we look at astrology, now we are oftentimes including in the interpretation, the outer planets, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, asteroids, other things, the galactic centres and points in space. We talk about the nodes. And actually I think in an ancient astrology, the nodal, well, I'm not going to go there. Let me just stay there.   Mary Stewart Adams: (38:33) So before the introduction of a telescope, the farthest of the wandering stars, the planets that could be seen, it was Saturn. So the fixed stars are much further away from us than the planets are. And if you look into the sky, even if you don't know the sky, if you watch night, after night, after night, you'll see that the stars stay in place relative to one another. But the rest of them, there's a few that seem to move. Those are planets.   Mary Stewart Adams: (38:59) And the one that's moving the slowest always connected to father time that's Saturn. And so Saturn was used to describe the boundaries of time. And when you look at the rhythm of Saturn, it takes it about 29.5 years for it to come exactly back to the place where it started, if you were measuring it, you marked the point. So we will say that the Saturn return starts to begin in the 28th year.   Mary Stewart Adams: (39:26) And depending on apparent retrograde and our own wobbling, sometime between 28 and 30 Saturn is coming back to the place where it was when you were born. And so you can divide that 28 year cycle of Saturn into seasons, so we have four seasons of the year. You can divide the first 28 years of the Saturn cycle into four quarters. So you have birth to, birth and early childhood, then you have childhood proper then adolescents, then young adulthood. And then you've got Saturn.   Tahnee: (40:02) [crosstalk 00:40:02] the seven year?   Mary Stewart Adams: (40:03) Yeah. So this is the seven year cycle. So it's four, seven year cycles. Four times seven is 28. So birth to seven, that's the first leg. And then seven is when you get the change of teeth and sometimes it's happening earlier, but you can see there's bodily things that are going on. And the physiology of the human being, there's these significant shifts that happen.   Mary Stewart Adams: (40:23) So first we're physically born. And then the change of teeth happens. Then we come into puberty. Then we come into adulthood proper, and then seven years later, you're back at Saturn returning to the position it was when you were born. And now what can happen is it's reviewing, all right. These were the circumstances I was born into that it seems to me like I didn't have anything to do with, except if I take the perspective of being a soul spiritual, being with incarnational intentions, I had a lot to do with what circumstances I came into.   Mary Stewart Adams: (40:58) But then now, I'm conscious of myself in a way where I can make a decision that separates from or further develops those circumstances I was born into. But when we're coming, so we were coming from our star, I'm giving you a really long answer. But the idea is that the midnight of the soul is something we actually experience when we're in the vicinity of our star. So it's not just a moment of sadness or heaviness or depression on the earth, but the midnight of the soul is an actual stage of becoming when we're between the time, between death and rebirth and a decision is made.   Mary Stewart Adams: (41:35) That's the only way to say it. I'm reaching up like, "Okay, you're up there with your star. You're making a decision to come toward earthly incarnation." And a process begins whereby you would get the forces for the physical body, from the stars. So Aries the head, Taurus the larynx, Gemini the limbs all the way through to Pisces the feet, and then moving through the wandering stars, the planets. We get the rhythms of the inner organism. So Saturn is connected to the spleen, Jupiter to liver, Venus to kidneys.   Mary Stewart Adams: (42:04) So this whole body is articulated out of our, the staring system. And Saturn as the one marking the boundary of like, "Okay, you're coming out of space and into time." These are two elements that are not synonymous. So we move out of space into time at the planetary spheres. And then the time that Saturn marks as the boundary is in perfect harmony with the moons with them of 28. So Saturn has a 29.5 year rhythm as does the moon. And so that's kind of give a long roundabout answer to what you were asking, but there's this-   Tahnee: (42:41) Is a beautiful one.   Mary Stewart Adams: (42:43) So when we get to the moon sphere. So you imagine now you've come from your star, you're gathering together these forces that will build this body that is related to I mean, I've used the word karma, but what I mean by that is that there are things that we must meet of necessity out of our soul's intentions.And it's not predestination. It's just that these things will be in my path and how I meet those things it's up to my free will.   Mary Stewart Adams: (43:10) I can turn away from it, I can dive in, but nonetheless there are certain things that are going to happen along the way. And that, but as this body is being formed out of these forces, then I feel like I'm way out on the limb here.   Tahnee: (43:28) I love this.   Mary Stewart Adams: (43:28) I can complete the picture. So the last place that the soul spirit germ is resting before incarnating is in the moon sphere, because the moon is like the guardian around the earth. It has the earth at its centre, it's orbiting the earth. And there's just this lovely imagination, that new souls that are coming to birth, they come on the moon beans [inaudible 00:43:48] fairytale, but these fairytales are rooted in these ancient ideas.   Mary Stewart Adams: (43:53) And so when they... The kind of this seed of our becoming drops into the womb of the mother after the conception, then this weaving process begins where the moon will then go through 10 lunations or 10 x 29.5 day cycles, that matches with Saturn that completes this formation of the body, and here in the physical, until we can really support the breathing and the heartbeat, we still can't stand, we don't, aren't born fully complete.   Mary Stewart Adams: (44:29) We still need this really strong, we have a strong relationship and out of necessity with other human beings. And so it's all kind of built in, but that, so you look at this relationship between Saturn and moon as kind of holding the rhythm of what life are you going to build into this structure that you've been gifted from the stars?   Tahnee: (44:54) And I mean, that I'm feeling like into that Saturn return thing, as well about that almost coming back to rebirth and this approach [inaudible 00:45:04] to like, which is certainly my experiences [inaudible 00:45:07] to recreate yourself again. And that the seasonal thing of like, I'm really feeling a lot of the Daoist stuff, even though it's different.   Tahnee: (45:16) I don't know about the Western astrology, but in Taoism, the liver, all the organs have a spirit and the liver holds the hun, which is the one that holds our visioning and our dreaming. And it said that when we lay down horizontally at night, it goes out into the stars and dances amongst the stars.   Mary Stewart Adams: (45:33) That's Beautiful.   Tahnee: (45:34) Keeps us to that higher realm, I suppose. And that made me laugh when you were saying that, because it's also this sense that we do move back from the West to the East, through the underworld. And so there's this kind of, and that would also be correlated to winter time and these darkness and descent.   Tahnee: (45:55) And yeah, I can really feel like that in that sort of flow with Saturn and with the moon and that feminine essence as well of coming back. I always think of Saturn as a masculine archetype, but in that it's in a relationship with the moon that feels like a really beautiful kind of dance.   Mary Stewart Adams: (46:11) Yeah. I think traditionally the moon is regarded as feminine and Saturn as masculine, but it is that it has that sense of being embraced or in wound. And I think when we do come back to when Saturn returns to the place where it was when we were born or when the moon comes back to that place, which it does every 19 years or so that we can have this sense of, "This is who I am. I'm walking in my own shoes."   Mary Stewart Adams: (46:40) And for those moments, it's an opportunity to assess where have I been? And to really sense in the feeling of life that I did have an intention and where am I in relationship to that? So I think that looking at these rhythms in our lives can be really healthy, because it allows us to say, there are these markers that happen naturally and rhythmically in every human life.   Mary Stewart Adams: (47:04) Whether we accept that we have a relationship with the planets and the stars or not, it's a matter of fact that each one of the planets will return rhythmically to the place where they were when we were born. They won't all be in the same place when that happens, but each time they return, there's just this encounter we have with ourselves. And in the anthroposophical worldview about the planets, it's that moon, and mercury, and Venus are destiny determining.   Mary Stewart Adams: (47:39) So this is where we can look for the forces of destiny. And then that Mars, and Jupiter, and Saturn are liberating. And there's just this really wonderful way that they are woven together through the days of the week. So I hope it's not hard to conceive of this without seeing, but we go from Monday, which is moon day to Mars day.   Mary Stewart Adams: (48:02) So the moon is between earth and sun. Mars is beyond the sun from the earth. And then, so we go from moon day to Mars day for Tuesday, then to Wednesday, which is mercury. So we're going from a destiny determining planet out, to a liberating planet, back to a destiny, determining planet, back to a liberating planet back and forth weaving in the cycle of the week. And then the sun is there mediating.   Mary Stewart Adams: (48:33) So the sun being the sun hero in Christianity, this is the Christ being in Egyptian mythology. It's RA, there's always, it's her own Mazda. There's always this sun being, that is mediating between these forces of karmic, necessity and liberation. And the reason I think that they weave together through the week is because we are incarnate on the earth and we do have to deal with being human in the world and sorting out our relationships to one another, to our environment, to the other creatures that live in this space.   Mary Stewart Adams: (49:06) And then we get this opportunity also to lift that up, weaving back and forth. It's really beautiful, but when you think about like, "Why is it ordered that way? Who did that?" Do you know who did that? Because, I mean, I've shipped from the... Yeah. I mean, I know calendars are so different all over the world, but the shift to a Gregorian calendar's has a big impact on outlook.[crosstalk 00:49:36]   Mary Stewart Adams: (49:36) Yeah. So that, yeah, Gregorian calendar reform happened in the 15 hundreds, but then of course there was Napoleon in France during the French revolution. They got it... It wasn't Napoleon or maybe it was in the French revolution and he re-instituted it, they got rid of the Gregorian calendar and tried to go to a 10 day week and change things up. But I think really it was the Babylonians, the ancient Babylonians that divided the sky or at least the Zodiac into 12 parts.   Mary Stewart Adams: (50:08) It doesn't get fixed right away. And I can't, I wish I could answer that question. I'm not really sure who gets credited with saying, "Okay, seven days of the week and how it's related to the planets," but in many different languages, you hear the planets in the name of the days of the week.   Tahnee: (50:26) Yeah. Well, that's, I know that with some, the Vedic culture as well. [inaudible 00:50:29]   Mary Stewart Adams: (50:29) Yeah. So it seems that it's pretty universal? But all right. Here's these planets were related to that and it's right into the days of the week for us. Yeah.   Tahnee: (50:38) Have you ever seen this huddle shell that has the 13?   Mary Stewart Adams: (50:42) Yes.   Tahnee: (50:42) Yeah. That's always been really interesting to me, because we do have 13 moons in a year.   Mary Stewart Adams: (50:47) Right. Yes.   Tahnee: (50:50) [crosstalk 00:50:50] often, so there's this sort of little bit of a normal-   Mary Stewart Adams: (50:52) Yeah. And then making that shift from a lunar based calendar to a solar based calendar. So for instance, in the Islamic culture, the new year is connected with the moon and the moon doesn't occur on the same day, from one year to the next... That's the same date, rather it's always processing through the year.   Mary Stewart Adams: (51:14) And so this is a very interesting dynamic culturally, that's a lot different from a culture that is rooted in the rhythm of the sun. And I think that it's, I just really think it's really important to pay attention to that, the calendar system, when trying to understand different cultures. That if you're basing your high ceremony and sacred observance on the moon, it's quite different than if you're basing that on the sun, your rhythms are going to be different and the culture will be different. And that's okay. Because the sun and moon are different.   Tahnee: (51:53) Yeah. Well that makes me think, because we were off the camera, when we were talking earlier, we were talking about anthrosophia   Mary Stewart Adams: (51:58) anthroposophy.   Tahnee: (52:02) anthroposophy. Yes. Happy now, you've explained that to me. But that feminine, that this is a feminine age and it's sort of almost if you feel that strong, like masculine, again, I relate to the sun is very masculine, strong energy, a very young energy from that Daoist sort of perspective. And then, you've got this Gin kind of moon energy. Yeah, you can feel that it's a challenge to be in a feminine space in this culture. It's a very linear forward moving coach, which I think has its benefits in some ways, but it's also, it does take away a lot from that soft.   Tahnee: (52:41) And that's always been what attracted me to those sort of Daoist wisdom traditions is that they're very fluid, they're very water like, they're very feminine in a way, almost soft and yeah, I think it's, can be difficult to embody that feminine essence in this time. And can you speak a little bit to that? What is that calling for humans at this time?   Mary Stewart Adams: (53:03) Yeah. [crosstalk 00:53:04] So if I went back to this verse that said from Rudolf Steiner, about becoming aware of our speaking to the stars, there's also in this idea that, again, I feel like I keep talking about the ancient Egyptians, but they had this wonderful art about the sky goddess, not who at the end of every day, she swallowed the sun and then it would move through her body. And the Starlight that we see was actually the light of the sun radiating through her body.   Mary Stewart Adams: (53:33) And then every morning she would give birth to the sun. And so this being is a celestial goddess and she bears the stars toward us. And then one of the things that Rudolf Steiner describes is that in the Egyptian myth of Osiris, he slain and then it's Isis, his concert and queen that has to remember him. She gathers together the parts of his body and puts it in a common grave.   Mary Stewart Adams: (54:02) But she also goes throughout Egypt to gather the parts of his body, and everywhere she goes, she teaches ceremony, according to what part of the body does the community have. So to be crude, but like, okay, if you have the left foot, you do a certain ceremony different than the right arm. But in this way, all of the culture is engaged in re embodying this great God.   Mary Stewart Adams: (54:26) And then what Rudolf Steiner brings to this mythology is that it goes on and Isis, herself is slain. And that she's slain in the thought about the cosmos that only looks at it according to the laws of gravitational force and celestial mechanics. And only looking at how to measure distances, and speeds, and chemical composition, and things like that, that this is the grave of Isis.   Mary Stewart Adams: (54:53) It's the grave of this celestial goddess that bears the star wisdom toward us, and that we are living in a time now where we have to like the ancient Egyptians remembering Osiris, we would now be called upon to remember this being of the divine feminine. That is really intimately connected with the way we know the stars. So we see this celestial goddess described in Dante's Divine Comedy.   Mary Stewart Adams: (55:22) It's in this manuscript called the Chemical Wedding of Christian Roseanne Crites. It shows up that there's this being that descends. It was the philosophia of the ancient Greeks, but how Rudolf Steiner describes the being of anthroposophia is that the anthropo, means the human being and the Sophia, is this universal wisdom that is inherent in being human.   Mary Stewart Adams: (55:46) But that if we bring to this an imagination, not just a make belief, but using the cognition about the unseen world, that there's actually something embodied in this, that this sophianic wisdom has descended toward the human being from ancient ages, stars were speaking, they've grown silent, come all the way.   Mary Stewart Adams: (56:12) And to us rests on our shoulders, the way Atlas gives Hercules the pillars of the heavens. Now it's up to us to speak this wisdom back to the stars. So Sophia, the wisdom becomes the anthroposophia emerged from the human being. And so this having kind of disappeared into humanity now, would emerge from us and lead us on and lift us up. And it's very much described in the feminine.   Tahnee: (56:41) Yeah. And I think if you look at, I mean, we live in a community that's a little bit probably ahead of some of the rest of the world in terms of that-[crosstalk 00:56:52]   Mary Stewart Adams: (56:52) Those ideas.   Tahnee: (56:54) Yeah. But I do notice that this rising of that consciousness, I suppose, in this time, which is, yeah, it's really interesting to observe. And I guess it's a lot of what your work is. Is that very feminine art of, I know a lot of men carry stories too, but reading to children and caring for children and telling stories and teaching through fable. And like you were saying with your daughter, when she was very young, giving her creative and poetic, you don't want to be really linear with little kids-   Mary Stewart Adams: (57:25) And you don't want to cut them off from their imagination.   Tahnee: (57:28) Yeah. And I think that's, when I heard about your book, I was so excited because I really want to introduce my daughter to the stars, but I was like, "I don't really want to be like those, the constellation."   Mary Stewart Adams: (57:40) Right.   Tahnee: (57:40) And we're just at the moment, we look at them and we look at bright and which ones are together and just make up stories and see if we can see any animals. And, but yeah, I love this idea that we can tell stories and fables and bring in that kind of yeah, I guess more sort of subtle aspect of learning, and less scientific, and rational, and more in the dreaming. And so I know your book is really for the Northern hemisphere, but could you tell us a little bit, I bought it anyway because I'm like- [crosstalk 00:58:11]   Mary Stewart Adams: (58:12) Which I love, thank you very much.   Tahnee: (58:13) Well, and I bought a couple, I bought one for a friend as well, and I bought one to give away for this podcast. Because I thought some people out there would be interested as well but...   Mary Stewart Adams: (58:21) That's fine. Yeah.   Tahnee: (58:22) Yeah. But I really, I just think that my experience with myths is that it's sort of opened me up in a way that reminds me of when I was a child and I was reading fairy tales and my parents were very big on me reading all the classics and-   Mary Stewart Adams: (58:39) Wonderful.   Tahnee: (58:40) Yeah. I mean, even the hobbit, it was given to me very, very young. My dad was really into fantasy and so I think that's a really good introduction for children into these, like the hero's journey. And all these kinds of things.   Mary Stewart Adams: (58:51) And really developing healthy imaginations. Yeah.   Tahnee: (58:55) Yeah. So I'm really excited for my daughter to experience that too.   Mary Stewart Adams: (58:58) That's wonderful.   Tahnee: (59:00) But yeah. Could you tell us a bit about how you came to write it and what it's?   Mary Stewart Adams: (59:02) Yeah. It's called the Star Tales of Mother Goose. And mother goose comes at least as far as I can tell really out of French culture in the gosh, eighth or ninth century is when the first references are being made. And then it doesn't get written down until the 16 hundreds. And then it makes its way over to England. And then these tales, which were originally fairytales become associated with nursery rhymes or mother goose rather becomes associated with nursery rhymes.   Mary Stewart Adams: (59:33) And then that's how it comes to America as these little children's ditties. And so I have this idea that as we go through history and the star knowledge begins to go to sleep in us, that it doesn't disappear entirely. It playfully lives in fairytales and in nursery rhymes and these little ditties that just move very freely and enthusiastically, enjoy fully around the world.   Mary Stewart Adams: (01:00:04) In every culture, there's just these little sing-songy things that happen in culture that are the places where it's just like the Starlight, is just sparkling in that. And you don't have to have any intellectual grasp of what it means. It can just be nonsense and whimsy and fun and joy. That's just all we need, until we're ready to remember again.   Mary Stewart Adams: (01:00:26) And so at this period of time, as we're coming toward the scientific revolution historically, and the star knowledge is changing in that there's no longer this idea that we come from a star or that we're connected to stars in any kind of a way that they might bear an influence on us. But now it's, again, its weight, its measure, its number. And at that time that the scientific revolution is really taking off. Also, you have fairy tales and nursery rhymes showing up.   Mary Stewart Adams: (01:00:55) So I think that there's, it's really interesting that that seems to coincide. But so what happened for me was that my niece was reciting a mother goose nursery environment. I thought it was really cute, I had never heard it before. I was like, "Where did you get that?" She said, "What's mother goose?" And I said, "No, it's not. I know every mother goose nursery rhyme, that's not one."   Mary Stewart Adams: (01:01:17) And my sister pulled out her original mother goose and flipped to the page and showed it to me. And I got really mad, I was like, "Another goose is mine, I know all the mother goose rhymes." And so I went to bed really angry then, and I was in my forties. So it's not like I was a little kid I was [inaudible 01:01:36] And when I woke up. Yeah. I woke up and I got a message out of my dream.   Mary Stewart Adams: (01:01:42) All right. So I'm going to qualify this by saying that, throughout my life, I've had a really interesting experience of this kind of thing. I take it seriously because I love it. I love to try to investigate these kinds of things when they happen. Where does that come from? And what does it lead to? If anything in my life that I could say that this has value. And so I got this message as I was waking up and the messag

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Good morning, everybody. I was on this morning on WTAG with Jim Polito.   We discussed not only that Elon Musk's Tesla Organization is now accepting Bitcoin for payment but an additional interesting twist to that.  Then we talked about the Suez Canal and the problems with the Ever Given.  Here we go with Jim. For more tech tips, news, and updates, visit - CraigPeterson.com. ---  Automated Machine Generated Transcript: Craig Peterson: [00:00:00] Mining equipment. It's like those guys that you watch on the discovery channel, where they're mining for gold up in Alaska. The guys that make the money, they've got these massive machines moving all of this stuff and they're making lots of money. Well, there's specialized equipment as well for mining for Bitcoin. Good morning, Craig Peterson here. Of course, I was on with Mr. Jim Polito this morning. I had to talk about the Suez canal, this blockage. So we did, we got into that. Then also a little bit about Tesla and Bitcoin.  What is Elon Musk doing? What what's he thinking? I had a couple of ideas and we talked about them with Jim. Here we go. Jim Polito: [00:00:44] You can buy now a Tesla with Bitcoin. There are organizations that will accept Bitcoin. Here's what's different here. Most of those organizations take the Bitcoin converted to regular currency and then that's it. Well, Elon Musk must be betting on Bitcoin. I don't know. I need a guy much smarter than me here, which doesn't take a lot of work. That is in no way to take anything away from our next guest, who is our good friend and tech talk guru. Craig Peterson. Good morning, Craig. Craig Peterson: [00:01:20] Hey, good morning, Mr. Jim. Yeah. What a different world. Jim Polito: [00:01:24] Yeah. You can buy a Tesla with Bitcoins, which is that crazy currency that we talk about frequently here. When he takes the Bitcoin in, unlike other businesses, he's not then converting it. Like when you go to Europe and you're converting your money into euros. He's not converting it. He's keeping the Bitcoin. Does that mean he thinks Bitcoin is viable? Craig Peterson: [00:01:50] Yeah, boy does he ever. He's been talking about it and promoting it for a while. He bought one and a half billion dollars, of course, that sends the price up. It isn't just ransomware now being used for Bitcoin. Everything's going crazy. Look at this musician Grimes. I don't know if you heard about this, but he sold the collection of digital work for 6.3 million. Jim Polito: [00:02:19] The digital artwork just makes me laugh. Somebody makes a piece of digital artwork, which, unlike the Mona Lisa, you can't go there and just pick it up and say, I'm going to bring it home, or I'm going to take a copy of it. You can't do that digital artwork as far as I'm concerned is worthless. Craig Peterson: [00:02:37] It's a perfect copy, right? It's not like the Mona Lisa a forgery. Jim Polito: [00:02:42] It's actually right. You're right. If you copy a piece of digital artwork, it's exactly the same. Craig Peterson: [00:02:49] It absolutely is. They filed at Tesla here. This is a regulatory filing with the securities and exchange commission about a month ago now saying that they would begin accepting Bitcoin as payment for Tesla cars. Now, I'm not sure who they're going after or what they are gonna use bitcoin for, maybe he sees a Bitcoin going up even further. We've certainly seen some major runs in it. You referred to it as a currency. I think that's an interesting word because of what is. What is the currency? We have dollars that we have right now that has the full faith and credit of the government just laughable in and of itself. But anyway, everybody takes it right from the pizza shop, that first took 10,000 Bitcoin for two pizzas. They're the first Bitcoin transaction ever. So figure out how much they were worth then far less than a penny. Now, Tesla saying, yeah, you can bring in one Bitcoin and I'll give you a full car. Jim Polito: [00:03:57] I don't know. I'm just not getting it, you know what, as they say, that I think the chance to get in on the ground floor was a long time ago. I'm just not getting in on the ground floor.  I'll stick with all that stuff. Craig Peterson: [00:04:09] My son and I started doing mining, years ago, Bitcoin mining. It was just so expensive to do because we didn't have specialized mining equipment. It's like those guys that you watch on a discovery channel where they're mining for gold up in Alaska, the guys that make the money. They've got these massive machines moving all of this stuff and they're making lots of money. Well, if there's specialized equipment as well for mining for Bitcoin, and with the cost of electricity here in the Northeast, it's just not worth doing. If you go to eBay right now, You could do a search for Bitcoin mining equipment and you would find all kinds of used stuff for sale because the next generations out. And the only way they can stay effective is to get the next generation. So right now it is cheaper to mine a Bitcoin than to pay for the electricity. It's about 25 to $30,000 for one Bitcoin. If you're trying to mine it, it's going to vary. It's a little bit of a luck of the draw too, by the way, the Bitcoins they're in the $50,000 range. Okay, that makes some sense to do some mining. But again, you've still got to have this specialized equipment. That's going to cost you a lot of money and get busy. He's obviously betting on it going up. Yeah, he may be just saying, I'll convert it to a hard currency, when I hit the hundred thousand dollars a Bitcoin, he really hasn't said. Jim Polito: [00:05:37] There really are people who believe that it will too. Craig Peterson: [00:05:41] Oh yeah. Jim Polito: [00:05:42] Eric Bolling who used to be on Fox. He's a former investment person who then worked at the business channels. Then it gets a Fox. Then he had a sexual harassment allegation against him he's out. He does work for Newsmax now a few others. I listened to a podcast with him talking about it and he's betting on it. He's not a stupid guy, he's betting on it. Craig Peterson: [00:06:06] I wish I had money to bet on it. I just don't right. I'm trying to build a business and raise a family, support a wife, kids, chickens, by the way, the Fox got four or two foxes came by this morning I got four my chickens, but, we get it. Jim Polito: [00:06:22] We gotta talk about that after, but keep that thought in mind. Cause I gotta tell you a good story. Go ahead. Craig Peterson: [00:06:28] It's that time of year. We'll see what happens, Bitcoin. I just don't know. I've never had the trust in it. It takes trust to buy Bitcoin. The major drive driving force behind Bitcoin has been corporations buying Bitcoin so they can pay for a ransom when they get ransomware. They're buying Bitcoin in advance. That's part of their plan for disaster if they get hit with ransomware. Then the other thing that's really driven up Bitcoin over the years is people buying it to pay ransoms themselves. And that's a real big deal. That's something we're covering on the improving windows security course this week too. You got to keep yourself safe. How do you mitigate it? There just aren't that many places that accept it. Maybe Elon saying while we've got all of these total geeks that mine Bitcoin, now they'll trade it over. The fact that he bought a billion and a half drove the value of Bitcoin up. Is he playing the market? Is he gaming it by buying it? Driving it up, testing it, which will drive it up, right? The value just keeps going up. Who knows maybe that's even illegal. Jim Polito: [00:07:41] Well, he's been in trouble before with the SEC. Remember some of the statements he made. He should stop smoking pot, live on a podcast.  He should maybe start with that. You have to give him some credit though for what he's done was SpaceX and other things. The very fact that he bought $1.5 billion worth of Bitcoin, right after that purchase is closed. The price goes up because people seem to just see that Elon Musk bought Bitcoin maybe he's part of the whole thing and like old man, Joe Kennedy used to do. He knew when to get in the market and when to get out. Maybe Elon Musk got a little bit of that. I just think it's fascinating. Craig Peterson: [00:08:21] Hey, I gotta bring up those Suez canal thing here too, Jim. Oh no, go Jim Polito: [00:08:25] Go ahead. Go ahead. Craig Peterson: [00:08:26] I've got two kids in the maritime industry and you know that. It was three actually that have been. One of whom is a Master Mariner. She has unlimited oceans, unlimited tonnage command vessels for the US Navy and merchant vessels. And she's been through that very Suez canal before. She's told me some stories about it. I'm not sure that the pilots, now remember pilots when it comes to ships, are the specialized people, that know the harbors. Jim Polito: [00:08:59] Usually, they come out to the ship. Bring them out, they climb up the side, get in. They know the local waterways they take over for the Captain. Craig Peterson: [00:09:09] Those are the guys. You know what nepotism is, right? Jim Polito: [00:09:12] Oh yes, I do. We have quite a bit of that in Rhode Island and Massachusetts. We have a little bit of that going on. Craig Peterson: [00:09:19] I'm not sure these ships pilots over there by the descriptions I have heard. From the family members and others, I'm not sure those ship pilots are actually even qualified to get a Massachusetts voters license. Jim Polito: [00:09:35] No. Craig Peterson: [00:09:36] They are the least competent people I have ever heard of, nepotism runs rampant. If you actually want to get through the canal, you have to make sure when you go over there that your ship, you might be hauling oil, you might be hauling it doesn't matter what, but you better be hauling Marlboro Reds and M&M's because that's what powers the Suez Canal.. Jim Polito: [00:10:01] You know what, that's great. One of the busiest waterways in the world, what is it? How much of the trade of the world? 11% of the world's trade goes through and you're telling me that if you don't have the Marlboro Reds, forget about the Marlboro lights but if you don't have the Marlboro Reds and some M&M's, it's all over. Craig Peterson: [00:10:20] Forget about it. You're going to end up blocking that Canal. Jim Polito: [00:10:25] That's very, very interesting. There's a cool little app out there right now that allows you to put the ship anywhere that you want. Like, you can drop it on a map anywhere. You can drop it on your street on the map. Craig Peterson: [00:10:42] Boston public library curator. It's called when the Suez. Jim Polito: [00:10:48] I'm seeing quite a few online of people taking it and putting it in interesting places. Hey, you mentioned it and then maybe we should just now close with is that program that you're putting on. We always ask you at the end, how can folks get more information from Craig Peterson? Craig Peterson: [00:11:06] Absolutely. Now's the time to do this. This is an Improving Windows Security course. You probably also got an email if you're active on the email list. I don't want to bother people who aren't that interested. First of all, Big big problem right now with iOS Apple's operating system for its mobile devices, you should have already received and installed a patch from Apple, even an old Apple phone. Okay, good. Jim Polito: [00:11:38] Yeah, I saw Craig Peterson: [00:11:42] Android. That's why I don't like Android. Apple gets it out even for old, old phones, Number two, this Improving Windows Security course is starting this week. I hope to get the email out this afternoon with all of the details. It is going to help you tighten up your windows computer. If you're not on that email list, get on it now. Credit Peterson.com/subscribe, because I send out tips and tricks and training. We do free webinars, just all kinds of stuff. You'll only know if you go to Craig peterson.com/subscribe Jim Polito: [00:12:17] Craig that is great. Good. Good to hear from you. Thank you as usual for making the very complex simple, and we'll catch up with you next week. Craig Peterson: [00:12:28] Bye-bye Jim Polito: [00:12:28] Bye-Bye. Craig Peterson. --- More stories and tech updates at: www.craigpeterson.com Don't miss an episode from Craig. Subscribe and give us a rating: www.craigpeterson.com/itunes Follow me on Twitter for the latest in tech at: www.twitter.com/craigpeterson For questions, call or text: 855-385-5553

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