Podcasts about third realm

The Third Realm is the next instalment of the series Karl Ove Knausgaard began with The Morning Star and continued in The Wolves of Eternity; like its two precursors, it is a breathtaking exploration of ordinary lives on the cusp of irrevocable change, ‘re-enchanting the cosmos with those beguiling secrets science had stolen from it' (in the words of The Guardian).Knausgaard read from The Third Realm and was joined in conversation about its mysteries and complexities by Helen Charman, author of Mother State.Find more events at the Bookshop: https://lrb.me/eventspod Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It's New Tunesday: new releases from the past week! Give the bands a listen. If you like what you hear, support the bands! Today's episode features new releases by Deviant UK, Adam Rå, Sex Code, Analog 80, Distant Alliance (ft. Mach FoX), Third Realm, Anders Manga, Dlina Volny, Bedless Bones, Night Ritualz (ft. Vick Vapors), Fantasma Negra, Age Of Sleep, Das Noir (ft. Stephen C.), Hocico, DSTRTD SGNL (ft. Martin Bodewell), Lifelong Corporation, and Unique Strain!

The Third Realm by Karl Ove Knausgaard continues the story of a world where change is set in motion when a new star appears in the sky and the lives of those affected. Knausgaard joins us to talk about creating his many characters, crafting a narrative across many books, writing from points of transition and conflict and more with cohost, Jenna Seery. This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Jenna Seery and mixed by Harry Liang.                     New episodes land Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays) here and on your favorite podcast app Featured Books (Episode): The Third Realm by Karl Ove Knausgaard The Morning Star by Karl Ove Knausgaard The Wolves of Eternity by Karl Ove Knausgaard My Struggle, Book 1 by Karl Ove Knausgaard On Writing by Stephen King The Magic Mountain by Thomas Mann The Names by Don DeLillo Creation Lake by Rachel Kushner

In this episode, we were joined by Karl Ove Knausgaard, author of one of the key literary phenomenons of the 2010s, My Struggle, to discuss his latest novel, The Third Realm, the latest instalment in the riveting Morning Star series.Karl Ove spoke to us about his journey toward becoming more at ease in literary interviews, his relationship with his work in translation, and how music informs one's sense of identity—contrasting, for instance, his youthful love of punk and R.E.M. with his daughter's of Ariana Grande. We also discuss “artistic preciousness” and how he has evolved from seeing writing as “sacrosanct” to being able to work at the kitchen table despite constant interruptions.Hosted by Ryan Edgington and Matt Hennessey. Produced by Lily Woods. 

Happy publication day to The Third Realm by Karl Ove Knausgaard! Listen to editor Ann Godoff share backstory on the book, and stay tuned for a reading from the audiobook.About the book: From bestselling author Karl Ove Knausgaard, a kaleidoscopic novel about human nature in the face of enormous change—and the warring impulses between light and dark that live in all of us.Read more: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/731568/the-third-realm-by-karl-ove-knausgaard/Follow us online—Website: https://www.penguin.com/penguin-press-overview/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/penguinpress/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/penguinpress TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thepenguinpress Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/PenguinPress/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/10489701/admin/feed/posts/

More than a decade after reaching worldwide acclaim with his six-volume autobiographical novel ‘My Struggle', the Norwegian author Karl Ove Knausgaard has returned to the fictional form in ‘The Morning Star' series. Knausgaard sat down with Gunnar Gronlid to talk about the latest entry ‘The Third Realm', embodying new perspectives and his fixation with death, family and freedom. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It's New Tunesday: new releases from the past week! Give the bands a listen. If you like what you hear, support the bands! Today's episode features new releases by Ironic Sweden, Third Realm, Absurd Minds, Halovox, Sacred Skin, genCAB, Alice Valkyrie, Violet Silhouette, Denuit, Zoltan Freitag, Noromakina, Alien Skin, Zirkular Dion, Soft Vein, FEVR, Mortal Boy, EkoBrottsMyndigheten, Mind Wired Shut, Pretty Addicted, Mesmer's Ghost, Switchface, Alex Braun, Obsession Of Time, Violentene, KÅRP, Martin Halldén, Lucy Dreams, Coherer, Love Asylum, Climate Zombies, Fuzzle, and The Lightning Kids!

Please enjoy this Haunted Cosmos special preview of our patron-exclusive show: The Dusty Tome.During this period between Season 1 and 2 in the month of August, we will be releasing one episode of The Dusty Tome per week until Season 2 begins on September 6th. That's five episodes! We hope you enjoy it; and we do hope you consider becoming a patron to gain access to 20+ episodes of The Dusty Tome, and so much more.We are pleased to share our sponsor for this episode: White Tree Solutions. Business Owners and IT Leaders, this is your trusted partner from strategy to implementation, harnessing the power of data and AI for your success.Visit their website or send them an email, info@wtsdata.com.Join our Patreon today by clicking this link!Support the show

In this episode, we'll be diving deep into the themes of the Magician card, which represents inventiveness, manifestation, and activating your pure potential. The Magician happens to be one of my Tarot birth cards and so, goes without saying, is one of my personal favorite cards. Our guest today is Pamela Chen, who is the author of several Tarot decks, including the Tarot of the Owls and the Witchling Academy Tarot, which, if you check out my YouTube channel - you can watch the unboxing videos - links in the show notes! We talk about manifestation, of course, but we dive even deeper by also talking about the four realms of manifestation, tangible manifestation techniques you can use in your everyday life, how to surrender and detach from the outcome, as well as Pamela's approach to creating her Tarot and Oracle decks. _____________________________________________ GIVEAWAY: Enter to win a Tarot of the Owls decks when you submit a podcast review to enter! Listen to this episode for more details _____________________________________________ Watch the full podcast interview on YouTube: https://youtu.be/sHQwEP-W7rY Read the show notes and full transcript on the Blog: rebrand.ly/graced-ep-7 _____________________________________________ 00:00 Introduction 00:49 Giveaway Details to Win the Tarot of the Owls Deck! 01:43 How to Create & Market your Deck Masterclass - RSVP for your ticket! http://createyourdeck.club/ 2:33 Interview begins, introducing Pamela Chen 2:55 Pamela's inspiration behind creating her decks 04:53 Self publishing vs working with a publisher 06:04 Themes of the Magician card 07:19 The Four Realms of Manifestation 08:43 Second Realm of Manifestation 09:50 Third Realm of Manifestation 10:38 Fourth Realm of Manifestation 12:05 Detachment in the Manifestation Process 16:17 What is Alchemy? 19:36 Putting Ourselves in our Decks 21:06 Advice for your Younger Self 21:56 How to Handle Manifestations that Happen too Fast 24:05 How to Embody Manifestation 25:44 What is a Walking Meditation 28:05 The Power of Gratitude 28:41 Taking Responsibility for your Reality 30:36 Getting into Alignment 33:50 AD - Pamela's Activated Business Academy - receive a $2000 scholarship! https://graceduong--highmagic.thrivecart.com/activated-business-academy-copy-2/ 34:52 Taking Aligned Action 36:37 Words are Spells 38:08 How to Change your Relationship to Money 41:27 How to Surrender 44:58 What Pamela is Working on Next 47:47 Having Galactic Fun 53:32 Grace gives Pamela a Tarot Reading 57:18 Pamela's Favorite Rituals 58:33 Where to Connect with Pamela 58:56 Endtro + Giveaway Details for the Tarot of the Owls deck! _____________________________________________ ➡️ Buy the Tarot of the Owls deck on Amazon: ⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/40VpS2B⁠⁠➡️ Buy the Witchlings Academy Tarot deck on Amazon: ⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/40VpS2B⁠⁠ _____________________________________________ Mystic Mondays Decks

This week's Dark Nation Radio is pretty much a party from start to finish and includes new VNV Nation, Bellwether Syndicate, Rotersand, Bedless Bones, Gleaming, Blaklight, nolongerhuman, and Diary of Dreams, as well as Voltaire, Mesh, Numb, Alphaville, Zombie Girl, ACTORS, and Shiv-R! And, speaking of parties, my monthly show, DJ cypher's Psychobilly Family Power Hour is tonight (Tuesday February 28th) at 9 PM EST on sorradio.org--tune in and rock out! DJ cypher's Dark Nation Radio Playlist 26 February 2023 VNV Nation, “Before the Rain” ACTORS, “Post-Traumatic Love (Woodhead remix)” Deus Ex Lumina, “Dark Days” Bedless Bones, “A Poison Tree” Blaklight, “Wicked Face (single mix)” Third Realm, “Sniper” Die Robo Sapiens, “Robotimierung (Orange Sector remix)” The Bellwether Syndicate, “We All Rise” Diary of Dreams, “The Secret” Luna 13, “Hear My Call (Stabbing Westward remix)” Aurelio Voltaire, “Better Than You” The Gathering, “Teardrop Parade” Gleaming, “We Dissolve” Rotersand, “Higher Ground (Evendorff remix)” NØIR, “The Bells (Interface remix)” NamNamBulu, “Return (Im club mix)” Mesh, “The Last One Standing” Cryo, “Believer” Incubite, “Glowstix, Neon, & Blood” Shiv-R, “Pharmaceutical Grade (Skyla Vertex remix)” nolongerhuman, “Therapy (DV8R remix)” Numb, “Suspended” [x]-Rx, “Voices” Alphaville, “To Germany With Love (Sebastian R. Komor remix)” Zombie Girl, “Bleeder” DJ CYPHER'S DARK NATION RADIO—23 years strong! **Live Sundays @ 9 PM Eastern US on Spirit of Resistance Radio sorradio.org **Recorded @ http://www.mixcloud.com/cypheractive **Downloadable @ http://www.hearthis.at/cypheractive **Questions and material for airplay consideration to darknationradio[at] gmail[dot]com **Facebook @ http://www.facebook.com/groups/darknationradio

Monday, Mar 14, 2022: Communion After Dark -- featuring the latest and best in alternative-electronic music -- spins new music from Dead Lights, Cellmod, Third Realm, The Birthday Massacre and more.

It's New Tunesday: new releases from the past week! Give the bands a listen. If you like what you hear, support the bands! Today's episode features new releases by 808 DOT POP & Lisa Van Den Akker, Anniee, Avenue Électrique, Beautiful Machines, Betamax Dub Machine, Binaural Silence, Cold Choir, Concavity, Cyber Monday, Dark-O-Matic, Emmon & Processor, Eric Oberto, EXTIZE, Fatigue, Forever Grey, The Gliding Faces, Into The Blood, Irradiated With Sound, Italoconnection, Jonny Fallout, L'Avenir, La Santé, Lifelong Corporation, Lucca Leeloo, Microchip Junky, Munich Syndrome, Noromakina, Octiv Shooter, Paradox Obscur, Plague Pits, Priest, Replicant, Retrograth, Rue Oberkampf, Same Eyes, Sivernot, Slow Danse With The Dead, SubClass, Tenderlash, Third Realm, VOITH, :Waijdan:, When We Believed, and wonder dark!

Twitch Session: Recorded live on Feb 6. Give the bands a listen. If you like what you hear, support the bands! The stream included music by Inter-Connection, Beyond Obsession, Psy'Aviah, Level 2.0, Cynical Existence, Blue Nagoon, Taxon Lazare, Dead Or Alive, Telekon, Lucifer's Aid, Cut.Rate.Box, Melotron, Orbitales, Söderut, Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark, N-616, Laureate Sky, Ton Sur Ton, Cylix, Microchipleague, Xenturion Prime, Reizstrom, Pleasure Time, T3rr0r 3rr0r, Dolls Of Pain, Men Without Hats, Blutengel & Massive Ego, Holocoder, System, Silica Gel, Electrovot, Céleste Noir, Third Realm, Xeno & Oaklander, IDEON, IXIOBO, Suicidal Romance, Fatigue, Das Werk, Norderney, VNV Nation, Oscillian, Informatik, and ARGH!

Edición Limitada - 27 de Diciembre del 2021. Especial con las 50 canciones favoritas de la producción de Edición Limitada en el 2021. Producción: Francisco J. Brenes y Gustavo Verduzco. Realización y Conducción: Gustavo Verduzco. Presentando música de Insides, Working Men's Club, Steven Wilson, Actors, Andy Bell, Dark-O-Matic, A Projection, Funker Vogt, Scheuber, Darwinmcd + Mark Bebb, Black Plastic, Gary Numan, Health + Nine Inch Nails, Hot Chip con Jarvis Cocker, Chvrches con Robert Smith, Beyond Border con Brian Belknap, Blackbook, The New Division, Causeway, Michael Oakley, Clan of Xymox, Double Echo, Erasure, Film School, Danny Elfman & Trent Reznor, XP8, Third Realm, Mental Discipline, Last Activity, Jakuzi, Ela Minus con Helado Negro, Martin Gore, New Order, Bootblacks, Mogwai, Nation of Language, Infra Violet, Covered in Snow, Nite, Exciting Valence, Ora the Molecule, Squid, Radiohead, µ-Ziq & Mrs. Jynx, Trentemøller, VH x RR, Fragrance., Uncreated, Eisfabrik y Elektrostaub con Alex Rush.

DJ Evil Dave in this episode of The Dark Corner Podcast presents another bonus music episode. That is, inspired by XIII Death, Dave mixes ten songs related to the meanings of the this oft misunderstood card of the tarot. Moreover, Dave describes the imagery of the card. Also, he indicates how Death relates to other cards numerological. On top of that, he points out media represents the Death card. Finally, he plays the following playlist. 1. A new beginning by Negative Response from Cage 25 2. One Horse Rider by ATTRITION from In Dark Dreams : 1980 - 2015 3. Thirteen by Arcane Winter from Welcome To Winter 4. Time To Change by Boom Operators 5. Metamorphosis by Polly Fae 6. Only In Death by Strap On Halo from The Dead Don't Lie 7. Transformative Fire by Sound VVitch from Squawksgiving 2020 8. Resurrection by Third Realm from Daydreams and Nightmares 9. Reborn (Synthematika Edit) by Zweifelhaft from Synthematika One 10. The End by Implant from Matrix Downloaded 004 If you want more music, check out DJ Evil Dave's playlist on Soundcloud.

It's New Tunesday: new releases from the past week! Give the bands a listen and if you like what you hear then support the bands! Today's episode features new releases by 1984, Antilav, Benjamin Digby, BlakLight, Bloodpanic, Стереополина, Current One, Cyber Monday, Darkzine, Dread Risks, Echoberyl, Ephemeral Machine, ExoKult, Freezepop, grabyourface, Hideotronix, Himmash, INVA//ID, j:dead vs Teknovore, The Joke Jay, Las Eras, The Last Days Of November, Leifendeth, London Sadness, Megan McDuffee, A Million Machines, MONOPLAN, N-616, Nox Nave, Null Cell, Oceanside85, Outsized, Pontagulha, Projekt Ich, Ravenous, Rina Pavar, Rodney Cromwell, Romy, Sapphira Vee, Ships In The Night, spankthenun, Strange Eyes, STRNGR & Destryur, Sun's Spectrum, Telekon, Third Realm, The Violent Youth, White Noise TV, Wisteria, and Woves!

It's New Tunesday: new releases from the past week! Give the bands a listen and if you like what you hear then support the bands! Today's episode features new releases by Bow Ever Down, CL-20, Eerie Sopor, Gargäntua, In Absentia, Invisible Devastation, Llumen, Lucia Cifarelli, Maschine Brennt, Miss FD, Negative Response, Neurobash, NeuroWulf, Noromakina, Order Of The Static Temple, Panic Reality, Paragon Cause, Pulse Lab & Kiffie, Rector Scanner, Rocket Report, Shiv-R, Spray, Suffer Ring, Symptom Eskalation, Third Realm, and Voltron2!

In Episode 84 of In The Saddle Podcast we look ahead to the 2021 Epsom Derby. For this episode Chris Loader is joined by In The Beer Garden colleagues Hong Kong Racing Journalist Charene Woo and racing pundit Steve Shanks. Also making his first appearance on the podcast is Jamie Benson from The Tote explaining about the World Pool. The panel start by discussing there world famous Epsom Dash Handicap with a variety of opinions including support for the defending champion Ornate who won the race in 2019. In Diomed Stakes the panel agree that is a tight and competitive affair with Maximal getting the verdict for Steve and Jamie. However Chris believes Prince Eiji has some unfinished business for Roger Varian after he returned to form at Ascot. For the feature Epsom Derby all the panel are eager to take on the favourite Bolshoi Ballet who is Aidan O'Briens only representative in the race. However Chris, Steve and Jamie all differ with positive mentions for Third Realm, Hurricane Lane and Youth Spirit. Please Subscribe to us on iTunes, Spotify and Soundcloud!

Edición Limitada - 31 de Mayo del 2021. Producción, realización y conducción: Gustavo Verduzco. Presentando música de Felix Marc, Cold Connection, Unroyal, Dead Astronauts, Psyche, Pixel Grip, The Assembly, John Foxx & Louis Gordon, Electronic, The Beloved, The Human League, Alphaville, Blaklight, Conjure One & Jaren, Handful of Snowdrops, U-Manoyed, VH x RR, Fonohead, Dark-O-Matic, Unzyme, Noprism, I Ya Toyah, Lucia Cifarelli, Orbital, The Future Sound of London, Fluke, 808 State, The Shamen, Revenge, BlueForge, ESA, Third Realm, Digital Energy, Die Braut, F.O.D., Infacted Allstars, Super Dragon Punch!!, Orange Sector con Armageddon Dildos, Massiv in Mensch con Rana Arborea y Funker Vogt.

Nick is joined by journalist and broadcaster Lydia Hislop to discuss the day's racing news, which focuses today on largely local issues. First, Nick and Lydia discuss tonight's action at Sandown Park, widely recognised as the most significant evening fixture in the calendar, before turning their thoughts once more to the Epsom classics next weekend. With those in mind, they are joined by trainer Roger Varian, who is three handed in the Oaks and also saddles Lingfield triallist Third Realm in the Derby. Later in the show, Nick visits his local Park Lane Stables to discover why this crucial hub for Riding for the Disabled has been forced out of its premises, while Racing Post Greyhound expert Dave Clark drops in to talk about the upcoming greyhound Derby.

Nick is joined by journalist and broadcaster Lydia Hislop to discuss the day's racing news, which focuses today on largely local issues. First, Nick and Lydia discuss tonight's action at Sandown Park, widely recognised as the most significant evening fixture in the calendar, before turning their thoughts once more to the Epsom classics next weekend. With those in mind, they are joined by trainer Roger Varian, who is three handed in the Oaks and also saddles Lingfield triallist Third Realm in the Derby. Later in the show, Nick visits his local Park Lane Stables to discover why this crucial hub for Riding for the Disabled has been forced out of its premises, while Racing Post Greyhound expert Dave Clark drops in to talk about the upcoming greyhound Derby.

Monday, May 24, 2021: Communion After Dark -- featuring the latest and best in alternative-electronic music -- spins music from Third Realm, Shiv-R, Auger, Pink Turns Blue and more.

Join Hugh, Tony and Kevin for a full review of all the Racing from the last 7 days. In a mixed week of trials Bolshoi Ballet’s win in the Derrinstown was the undoubted highlight but Third Realm also staked a serious claim for Epsom. In industry talk TC is disappointed that there is no punter representative on the newly formed Whip Steering Group, while Kevin is exasperated by fixture madness and Bob Baffert.

It's New Tunesday: new releases from the past week! Give the bands a listen and if you like what you hear then support the bands! Today's episode features new releases by Agents Of Rhythm, Avenue Électrique, Bara Hari, Beat Noir Deluxe, BlakLight, Blank, Chem, Chemical Sweet Kid, Clan Of Xymox, Cyber Monday, DARK, Distance Dealer, The Distant Minds, Enhok & RedLine, Frisky Monkey, Handful Of Snowdrops, HEALTH + Nine Inch Nails, Hurtsfall, Kirlian Camera, Neuroactive, Nius X, Nox Nave, Null Device, Ontic, The Quilz, The Red Hour, Ruined Conflict, Sawtooth, Sebastian And The Dream, Star Madman & Survey Channel, Suzi Sabotage, Third Realm, and Unzyme!

Monday, Mar 22, 2021: Communion After Dark -- featuring the latest and best in alternative-electronic music -- spins music from Hocico, Faderhead, Third Realm and more.

It's New Tunesday: new releases from the past week! Give the bands a listen and if you like what you hear then support the bands! Today's episode features new releases by AfterDark, Aircrash Bureau, B with ME, Camlann, Candy Corn Ritual, Charlotte Someone, CL-20, Daniel Hall, Distoxia, Fairy Pussy, Feu Follet, Frecvens, Go Fight, Karl Hefner & Hugh Lagerfeld, Karl Kave, Liam Leon, Microchip Junky, Outpost11, Paradox Obscur, Peter Wilson, Projekt Ich, Randolph & Mortimer, SØLVE, Spektor Baal, Sugar Wings, System Syn, Third Realm, and Vestron Vulture!

It's New Tunesday: new releases from the past week! Give the bands a listen and if you like what you hear then support the bands! Today's episode features new releases by Aesthetic Perfection, Alpha Quadrant, Antiflvx, Bara Hari, Cease2Xist, Chiasm, Child Of Night, Croc Shop, Croona, CZARINA, Danz CM, Elektrostaub, enter | me, Entrzelle, Frisky Monkey, Glenn Love, Kanga, The Livelong June, LorD and Master, Masked, Neurotech, Nox Novacula & Profit Prison, Oui Plastique, Portion Control, The Rain Within, Rector Scanner, Red Mecca, Retrograth, Sandor Gavin, Sapphira Vee, Schmerz, The Sere, Slighter, Some Ember, Space March, Star Madman, T-Error Machinez, Third Realm, and Xibling!

It's New Tunesday: new releases from the past week! Give the bands a listen and if you like what you hear then support the bands! Today's episode features new releases by Atlantic Popes, Basscalate, cEvin Key, Cirque D'Ess, Daniel Hall, Death By Magic, Deflexity, Double Echo, Eggvn, Egotragik, Ex-Hyena, Fury Weekend, Ginger Snap5, The Golden UFO, Helalyn Flowers, Insepulto, La Lune Noire, LorD and Master, Montage Collective, Nature Of Wires, Patrik Adolfsson, seaofsin, She Pleasures Herself, Slow Danse With The Dead, Still Forever, Third Realm, This Is The Bridge, Uncreated, and Volker Milch!

It's New Tunesday: new releases from the past week! Give the bands a listen and if you like what you hear then support the bands! Today's episode features new releases by 2PanHeads, Aesthetic Perfection, Bedlam Emotion, Blutengel, Chiasm, Concavity, Control Room, Cult Of Alia, Dead Cool, Egotragik, Fairy Pussy, Fatigue, The Ghost Of Bela Lugosi, Human Electrical Resource, Krõll, Manhatten & Star Madman, Matt Mancid & Color Theory, Microchip Terror, Mindmodvl, Moev, MONOPLAN, Orgreave, Outpost11, Ploho, Psychosomatik, Reality's Despair, Sandor Gavin, SpaceMan 1981, Steven Jones & Logan Sky, Tenth Circles, Terminal, Third Realm, and Unless You Crave Danger!

Flashback Friday! Songs anywhere from 1974 to 2019! Futurepop, Synthpop, EBM, Industrial, Darkwave, Synthwave, and so much more! Give the bands a listen and if you like what you hear then support the bands! Buy their music! Like their social media pages! Go see them on tour! Today's episode features music by Jens Bader, Noisuf-X, Ruined Conflict, Third Realm, A Covenant Of Thorns, New Dead Nation, This Is The Bridge, Elegant Machinery, The Frozen Autumn, Naked Eyes, Alice In Videoland, Dernière Volonté, CygnosiC, Arthur And Martha, Mind:State, New Arcades, Signal Aout 42, Universal Poplab, DV8R, Roosevelt, AGE ZERO, Client, High-Functioning Flesh, Wideband Network, Anything Box, Rational Youth, Lucid Dementia, Hydroxie, and Donkeyboy!

New Music Tuesday: new releases from the last week and songs from earlier in 2019 filling in the gaps! Futurepop, Synthpop, EBM, Industrial, Darkwave, Synthwave, and so much more! Give the bands a listen and if you like what you hear then support the bands! Buy their music! Like their social media pages! Go see them on tour! Today's episode features music by Black Heaven, EchoDroides, Ontic, Thornsectide, Analog 80, Nina, Lapse Of Reason, M73, Amber Teaser, The Ghost Of Bela Lugosi, white.light.monorail, christopher ANTON, Dark Phenomenon, Caisaron, Third Realm, The Evil Dark, Northern Lite, Leifendeth, Channel 69, TimeBitch, Radikal Kuss, The Purge, Caress, Les Berrtas, Nightmares And Neon, Magnus Krieg, Dreaming In Spanda, and ES23!

Dark Indulgence 09.30.18 Industrial | EBM & Synthpop Mixshow by Scott Durand : This week featuring another exclusive preview by Third Realm plus brand new just released tracks by Funker Vogt | Larva | Machinista | Reactor7x | PerfectHate | The Soft Moon | Dark Insights | BlackPill | Cervello electronico & more. Please remember to hit RESPOST and FAVORITE to spread the new music! My Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/djscottdurand Halloween weekend i'll be doing a mini-tour in Texas Guest Dj'ing at the following events: Halloween Official at Panoptikon in Dallas: https://www.facebook.com/events/1910697939230612 Helloween Doomsday FestEvil at Wax Lounge in San Antonio: https://www.facebook.com/events/490405358055619

Dark Indulgence 09.30.18 Industrial | EBM & Synthpop Mixshow by Scott Durand : This week featuring another exclusive preview by Third Realm plus brand new just released tracks by Funker Vogt | Larva | Machinista | Reactor7x | PerfectHate | The Soft Moon | Dark Insights | BlackPill | Cervello electronico & more. Please remember to hit RESPOST and FAVORITE to spread the new music! My Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/djscottdurand Halloween weekend i'll be doing a mini-tour in Texas Guest Dj'ing at the following events: Halloween Official at Panoptikon in Dallas: https://www.facebook.com/events/1910697939230612 Helloween Doomsday FestEvil at Wax Lounge in San Antonio: https://www.facebook.com/events/490405358055619

On this week's podcast, Marcus sits down with Chris Cockrell with Third Realm Creations. We could try and explain everything Chris dips his toes in but we think you should listen to find out! (Hint, hint: he's developing things of the future!) Tune in and listen or read on , Spotify, or iTunes. Chris: I'm Chris Cockrell, and I am co-founder of 3rd Realm Creations. Marcus: Awesome dude. Well, it is great to have you on the podcast today. I am super excited about what you all are bringing to Mobile, so it's awesome to have you here. Chris: Awesome, thanks for having me. I really appreciate it. Marcus: Well, before we get into what the Realm is, let's talk a little bit about you. Tell us the story of Chris, where you from? Where'd you go to high school? College if you went? If you graduated, married? Any of that back story that you [crosstalk 00:00:31]. Chris: Okay, gotcha. The life story of me. Marcus: Yes. Chris: I grew up in a small town in Mississippi, called Mount Olive, Mississippi. Most people don't know where that is, but- Marcus: I don't. Chris: You wouldn't unless you stopped to take a piss stop in my hometown on the way, on South 49 or North 49. It was a small town, our claim to fame is that's where Steve McNair, the former Hall of Fame quarterback is ... that's his hometown as well. I went to, again, small town, I went to a high school there called Magee High School, and after high school, went to Millsaps college which is in Jackson Mississippi, actually played football there and had a great time there. After college, I met my wife, Lindsey, and we moved to Memphis, Tennessee and we got married and have two kids now, Luke and Blakeney, my son Luke is five, and Blakeney is three. Luke just started kindergarten on Monday, it was his first day at Mary B. Austin, so time flies man, time absolutely flies. I guess my first ... I mean, I've been working since I was 12. I grew up in a small town, so a small town means, it's child labor. Marcus: Yeah, small town, yeah. Chris: That was just pretty much it. 12 years old, you're out working on a farm or picking vegetables or whatever the case may be. Marcus: Cutting grass. Chris: Exactly, but my first real job was as a human resources representative for a long term health care company, and that's pretty much been my entire career up until we started 3rd Realm Creations. Marcus: Well, pause there, because actually I do want ... When we talk to people on this podcast, often times we talk about the first job that they had. What I mean by that is not necessarily the child labor job, but the first job like flipping burgers or scrubbing toilets, or that kind of thing. Did you have- Chris: I did. My first, I guess my first paycheck from a reputable source would have been Dairy Queen. I actually worked at Dairy Queen for ... I mean it was in the summer job, I guess for three summers. I did pretty much everything. I was actually assistant manager at 16 years old. Marcus: 16 years old. Chris: Yeah, 16 years old. Marcus: The reason why we ask about that, because I often times find that people have lessons that they learned at a very early stage of their working life. Are there any lessons that you can remember from looking back at that? If there's something that sticks out? Like the example I always give and people are probably tired of me saying this, is that there's a proper way to mop a floor, and I've learned that working in a bagel shop, so. Chris: That's right. I think the lessons I learned there, your job and your career are going to be what you make it. Whenever you go to work every day, like you said, if your job is to mop floors, mop them the best way that you can. There is a right way to do things and there is a wrong way to do things, and if you do the right things, typically you're rewarded for those things, especially in a professional environment. That doesn't matter if you own your own business or if you work for someone else, it doesn't matter. That's probably the biggest lesson I learned. If you make the best of your situation and the best of your opportunities, and do things the right way, things are going to pay off for you. You're going to advance, you're going to get better, you're going to have those intangible things- Marcus: You're going to see the success then warranted. Chris: Yeah, you're going to see the success. Exactly. You're going to have the success at the end of the road. It's all about your perspective. Marcus: Right. Chris: That wasn't the most glamorous job and there weren't a lot of jobs where I grew up, so I was actually lucky to get that job- Marcus: And the fact that you made assistant manager by age 16 is saying something. I don't know how old you are, but that's not something that you typically would be handed at 16 years old, because there's a lot of responsibility that goes along with that at a fast food place. Chris: There was. I was actually assistant manager over a lot of people that were way older than me at the time, which has its own interesting dynamics, but yeah, I think that's the biggest thing, work hard, understand that there's a right way and a wrong way to do things, do it the right way and stick to it. Marcus: Were you a good student? Chris: I was a good student. Marcus: Good grades and studied hard and did well in math and science and all that stuff? Chris: I don't know about math so much. I thought I was really good in math until I went to college. Actually I made very good grades in high school. Millsaps College is a really tough school to get into. I was very fortunate to get into that school. I played football and that's how I got- Marcus: What position did you play? Chris: I played middle linebacker. Marcus: I did too. Chris: Oh, awesome. Marcus: Yeah, very cool. I didn't go past ... Honestly I think I stopped after my freshman year of high school, because I hurt my knee and I was like, "Man, this isn't for me," but I switched to lacrosse. Chris: It's tough man. Oh that's ... Yeah, I wish ... I've never even ... We never had that option. Marcus: I grew up in the Northeast, so it was more popular up there. Chris: More common. Marcus: Yeah. Chris: We had no lacrosse and no soccer where I grew up. It was kind of weird. It was a very small town man, very small. Marcus: Well, yeah it's when you have to make a choice, football wins. Chris: Yeah. Marcus: Now, 3rd Realm. Why don't you kind of describe to people what you're doing, because when we've had discussions in the past, what you guys are doing absolutely just kind of blows me away. I see what you're doing as the future of where things are going, so I'm super stoked about the fact that you exist here in Mobile, so go ahead and tell us a little bit about 3rd Realm. Chris: Sure, thanks number one. The kind of "elevator speech" or us in a capsule is that we're a software and development company, and that we specialize in virtual and augmented reality content. Most of the time when we tell people that, their first question is, "What the heck is virtual and augmented reality content and how do you develop it?" We've kind of ... You're right, it's a ... We've only seen the tip of the iceberg, but we're involved in an industry that we fill will revolutionize the way that we- Marcus: It will change everything. Chris: It'll change everything. It will be as common place as your iPhone or you iPad. Marcus: I'm actually having a little bit of jealousy here, because ... no, seriously. A number of years ago I went to [inaudible 00:07:07] and god, I wish I could remember the ... What was ... Robert Scoble who is a prevalent blogger out of Silicon Valley, so he was there to explain to the audience what he saw coming. I left that conference just absolutely blown away by what he was saying, that people like you are going to actually bring to the rest of the world. Not to take away from what you're saying, but I mean like seriously, it's just really exciting stuff. Chris: It really is. When you see the utilization or I guess I should say the multitude of applications that you can do with this technology, it really starts to ... it make your mind race and then you start to get overwhelmed at all the things that you can do. You think about advertising, marketing, education, just the number of ways this can impact our every day life is, it's really endless, honestly. Marcus: Then the lest new listener think that this is all stuff of video games, and geeks sitting in their basement nerding out. The example that Robert gave was imagine that you go into Home Depot, and you are trying to pick out cabinets for your home, and you're having a hard time visualizing what that looks like. Well, Home Depot will come out to your house, they will scan your house, they'll set up a camera, it'll take a scan and then you will go to Home Depot and you will put on a set of goggles and you'll be able to choose the different textures and finishes and stuff like that and actually experience first hand in a virtual world, what that looks like. That's virtual reality. Augmented reality would be like if you are an aircraft mechanic and you are needing to have something in your peripheral view that allows you to see what the socket size is that you need or whatever, that will be right there at your ready and your peripheral vision, and glasses, so you'll actually be able to see the real world in front of you, the engine, and you'll see the augmented world, whatever information it is that you need. These are the kinds of things that, I mean it is really we're on the [inaudible 00:09:26] of changing everything that we understand about how to interact with these spaces. Yes, video games are a large part of that right now, because it's nerds. You know what I mean? Chris: You're right, and a lot of times, a lot of people that we approach, that's their view of augmented, or that's their view of virtual reality specifically,- Marcus: Right. Chris: Is video games. The fact is that 80% of the people that do what we do, are focused on video games, this low hanging fruit, right? Marcus: Right. Chris: You build a game, you put it out for consumer use. Marcus: It's pretty quick. Chris: It's pretty quick. People buy it or they don't buy it. You know pretty quickly how marketable or how well your product is based on who buys it. How we set ourselves apart is that we focus on the business application, the business use of this technology. Everything you just said is absolutely true. Actually, one of ... I think he was our first client here in Mobile, Frank [Lot 00:10:21] with Heritage Homes. He has that app- Marcus: I know Frank. Chris: ... we built that app for him. Or you can go and pick out your siding, your roof- Marcus: You guys showed me that app. I didn't realize it was for Frank, but yeah, that's cool. Chris: Yeah, it was for Frank. He was our first ... You know, it takes people that have that vision to see kind of how to utilize it, but that was one of the first applications that we did, was exactly what you just said. Pick out your paint, pick out your color, pick out your siding, pick out your door, and then you can go in and pick out your other finishes. A lot of the other industries that we worked in are gaming, healthcare, medical device, education. Marcus: You're working at a national level now. I don't want you to say who, but you just went to New York and had some ... closed a deal. Chris: That's right. We've actually we were in San Francisco last week and closed a deal with a fortune 100 company. We've been to ... We've been a lot, we've been to a lot of places. We've been to New York twice already, we've been to Las Angeles, San Francisco, these are the places, kind of the hot beds where this stuff is really, really happening right now and there's a big need, a big demand for it, for especially for businesses that want to engage with their consumers on a new exciting level, but also just a ... It's just a more, it's like a target missile for marketing. This is a way that you can get in front of that consumer at the point of the sale, or before they make that decision, there's a new interactive way that you can advertise to your target market that makes this a very, very valuable commodity. Marcus: How did you guys get started? Because I mean, I didn't hear anything in your background about software development. Chris: Yeah. You won't find any that other than me playing video games and just kind of [crosstalk 00:12:23]. Marcus: I'm guessing you're the business guy behind the company name. Chris: I am. I do the business part, but I also come up with different ideas. One of the reasons I ... I left my job that I had, I was a healthcare executive for 12 years, and there was an opportunity that came to me and my family to either stay here in Mobile, try something new, or to move to Denver and keep doing what I've been doing. I didn't want to uproot my family, I have two small kids. We love Mobile, we love the community, we absolutely just fell in love with the place when we moved here, so I decided to take the leap and do something new, and this all kind of came to be around the same time that I met Nathaniel, and Charles and those guys through a mutual friend, actually at happy hour at Beer Garden. We sat down and we started talking about this. I've always kept up, I've always been a tech kind of- Marcus: Yeah, plugged in. Chris: Yeah, I've always been plugged in, not really a professional at it or anything, but I've always kept up with the technology part of the industry. I've always had my eye on virtual and augmented reality ever since Google Glass. The first kind of version of Google Glass, I saw that and when I saw that, I was like, that will change everything. That will change everything that we know about technology and how we interact with other people. Marcus: The world. Chris: The world, absolutely. I always kept up with it and read articles and when I saw the development of the Oculus and the basically new hardware that made it a lot easier for this to be more common place, I started to research and I found ... or when I met Nathaniel, we started discussing the business applications he was working on and he showed me a hologram that he had built on a computer, on his iPhone, I'm sorry. He pulled up his phone and he clicked the screen and a hologram stood on the table, and my first ... my mind just, it just took off. I started thinking about business cards. Business cards with holograms on them. You can stand on your business card and you can actually interact with the person you just met with. It's just a whole new level of business opportunity. We started to discuss that and we found that there was a lot of opportunities that we could pursue. We put a business plan together and we started to come up with just a handful of products that we could show for demo purposes and we just took off from then. We started that ... We opened our doors, the exchange on May 1st, 2017 and it has been drinking. Marcus: Has it really just been that long? Chris: It's just been that long, and it has been drinking from a fire hose, ever since the day I started. Marcus: Wow dude, that's really cool. Chris: Yeah. It was shocking- Marcus: It was [inaudible 00:15:16], I hope you take that the right way, but that's just really impressive. That's like insane. Chris: I do. Well, we tapped a vein that we're one of the only, besides Orlando, maybe a couple of companies in Nashville, and Atlanta, we're the only company in the Southeast that does what we do, so it's been, like I said, drinking out of a fire hose since the day we've been opened. Marcus: Well, and there's probably only a handful of companies, not handful, there's probably 100 or less in the country? Chris: Yeah, you're right. There's really, in terms of what we do, we do everything in house. We do our own video production, we do our own animation, we do our own graphics, we do all of those things. A lot of companies that do what we do, they just do the apps. They build the apps, then you have to give them content separately. We do all of that on our own. From my research, we are the only company that I can find in the country that does everything. We do everything from ... We can do commercials for you, we can shoot the commercial for you, then we can put it on a billboard for you in augmented reality. I mean, there aren't a lot of companies that do the full gamut, the full scope of what is included in the virtual and augmented reality development. Marcus: Yeah. It's really cool. Now, I've normally asked, do you remember the first time that you made some product or something where you thought there might be something to this, but the truth is, when you've only existed really for a little over a year, this is all still very new to- Chris: It is. It is very new. Pretty much we think all of our ideas are awesome ideas, but we found that some of the ideas are not great ideas for a myriad of reasons. Mostly its finances, I mean there are some industries that would love to take advantage of this, but the method by which they have resources to pay for this type of technology is just not available, but there are some game changers. There are some real game changers we feel like ... the one app we worked on with Nanny Connie, who is a celebrity Nanny, that lives here in Mobile, she's from Mobile, we work with them on augmenting, doing an augmented reality kind of reader guide, or reader supplement to the book that she just published through Simon & Schuster. She was on Good Morning America. We were fortunate to go up there with her to Good Morning America to promote this book. As we were building that, we were like, "Wow." The possibilities of incorporating augmented reality into books, whether it be this instructional book that the Nanny Connie book represents, just kind of teaches new parents how to be parents for the first four months of parenthood, but then you go to the fiction. When I read a book that's fiction and they reference a place I've never seen, and I automatically go to Google- Marcus: How cool would that be. Chris: ... so just have a logo there and just open your phone and bam, you get that reference. Or children's books. When you're reading, fill in the blank, children's book, what if that character was able to stand on that page and talk with you? That's a big idea that we've been working on and we hope to continue to develop. Marcus: That's cool. If you were talking to someone who wanted to get started in running their own business, what's the one bit of wisdom that you would impart to them? Chris: Be careful what you wish for. I mean, it's a big adjustment even though ... it sounds, when you say entrepreneur and you say you own your own business and all these other things, it sounds really awesome, it sounds really cool, but there's a lot of it that's not. It's not for the faint of heart. Marcus: Nope. Chris: One of the biggest adjustments I think that I've had to make is the value of a Saturday. I'm going to explain that to you in a second. In my old job, my old world, Saturdays were no ... everybody else was off, so even if you were ... there was nobody at the office to send you an email or to call you because everybody's off on Saturdays. There lies the value of a Saturday, like, you're off, you're disconnected from work and you really if you wanted to, you can just do whatever you want to do without worrying about it. When you're an entrepreneur, when you're owning your own business, there's no Saturday. There's no Monday, there's no Tuesday, everyday is work. Now, if you love what you're doing and you do it- Marcus: Every minute is work. Chris: every minute is work, but if you really are passionate and love what you do, it doesn't feel like work. Marcus: Right. Chris: It just feels like life. Marcus: I mean, there are some, yes, it doesn't feel like work, but it's also ... I can't shy away from this idea that at some level, disconnecting is something that is healthy and that entrepreneur's do need to do occasionally- Chris: Absolutely. Marcus: ... and you need to figure out ways to do that and it's really, really hard. Chris: It's a work, life, balance thing. Marcus: There is no such thing. Chris: Well, I think you can ... There is no such thing, but there are ways that you can reset your mind, like you were talking about. Marcus: Right, so going to the beach and spending the day- Chris: Absolutely. Marcus: Like at the water, for me, because that's how I kind of rejuvenate myself I guess, is to just go there and just sit with my feet in the sand. That is my way, but I'm mincing words here, but the truth is, you go to the grocery store and people recognize you if you're doing things correctly. Chris: That's right. Marcus: Or if you go to a chamber event, you're there and you're on, right? Chris: Yeah, that's right. Marcus: You're always in, at least in my situation, because we put so much out. It's you're always under the microscope in a sense. Chris: True. Marcus: I'm not complaining because that is necessary for a business. Chris: That's right. Marcus: It is the fuel that drives lead generation and sales and stuff like that, but at the same time, it's nice and like this past weekend I spent Saturday and Sunday working eight hour days at the new building, and this coming Saturday and Sunday, my wife had said, "We're going to the beach," because I think she realizes that I've gotten a lot more gray hair in the last month. [inaudible 00:21:34] and this is being recorded in the past, so hopefully by the time you listen to this, I will be back and be rested. Chris: Well, I think that what a lot of people ... It sounds really exciting to do that. Marcus: It's sexy. Chris: It is, it's sexy. Marcus: It's sexy, yeah. Chris: I think the degree to which you will last, you'll find out pretty soon, kind of the gauge I use is I feel more of my work days feels like Fridays than they do Mondays. Does that make sense? Marcus: True. No, absolutely. Chris: Like Mondays are typically, generally speaking- Marcus: I look forward to Mondays. Chris: I do too. I look forward to getting back in the office and getting [crosstalk 00:22:12]. Marcus: No slight to my family if you're listening to this. They don't listen to the podcast, but if they do listen to this in the future, it's no slight to my family, I love my family, I love my time at the house and stuff, but there's just something about ... I mean, this is like the oxygen for- Chris: It is. Marcus: ... an entrepreneur is to be able to work on your business and see it grow and take care of it and all that stuff. Chris: Yeah, that kind of becomes almost like when you're excited about doing what you're doing, that's invaluable, it really is. A trick that I do is whenever I'm ... When I go to the beach and I have those moments, turn off your device- Marcus: What? Chris: ... leave them home. Marcus: Sacrilege. I can't do it. Chris: I'm telling you. My wife and I, again, this is back in my old life when I was working 10 hours a day, we went to Costa Rica for a vacation and I did not know. I didn't even check, I didn't even research it. You don't have- Marcus: No cell service. Chris: You have no cell service, there is no Wi-Fi,- Marcus: No Wi-Fi. Chris: There's nothing. I didn't know this. Marcus: Did you have a panic attack? Chris: I almost did. The first day, I went to the office and like, "Do you have a computer?" And [inaudible 00:23:23], no, no computer. No, they did everything by like a cell- Marcus: Silly American. Chris: Yeah. I was like ... I started to, I really started to- Marcus: No, I feel you man, because yeah.- Chris: ... but, the flip side of that, when I left, we were there for eight days. When I left, I have never felt more rejuvenated ever in my life. That's something that has always stuck with me, because I was forced to put this down and turn it off. It made me feel ... Its like a feeling that I highly recommend to anyone. Now I try to ... I can't do it eight days in a row anymore, it's just impossible, but I try to find those opportunities and those times where I can absolutely unplug. Marcus: The interesting thing that I find is when you do get a chance to unplug, that's when the vision comes.  Chris: Absolutely. Yes. Marcus: I have three boys, so I don't get to do it much anymore, it's weird because I actually say, I don't get to do it, but mowing the grass. Mowing our yard is a good two hour affair or something like that, because I don't have a riding mower, I'm old school, I got the old self-propelled, but it's a push mower, but spending that time just wish some music on or something along those lines, maybe listen to a podcast, those are the times when I'm not ... I don't know, there's just something in that time, but also going to the beach, it's nice because you don't have those pressures, so it's that time where sometimes I get the clarity that I need on decisions that I'm trying to make or things like that. Chris: That's right. Marcus: It was kind of funny, because yesterday, I had a block of time set in my schedule and it literally just said meeting and I don't think anybody here ... I'm just going to have to start doing that more, because I need those times to just go and be at a coffee shop or some place and just figure some shit out. Chris: Absolutely. Marcus: I know this is a ... We try to keep her somewhat clean, but at some level, you just got to figure it out. You know, I mean, sometimes that's not easy in an office where there are a lot of ... It's a good thing, questions are being asked and decisions are being made, and conversations are being had and stuff like that, but sometimes you just need an extended period of time to get away and think. Chris: I think also the [manoosha 00:25:51], scheduling time away from ... I try to corner and isolate manoosha. Email, voicemail, those types of things that I believe, I'm a strong believer, this goes back to Franklin Covey kind of principles, like manoosha. Marcus: I'm old school like that too. Chris: Yeah. That manoosha will absolutely kill a business. It'll absolutely, it'll drive a person insane. If you're always answering your emails and doing those things, you don't really have time to step back, look at the big picture and start to realize the opportunities or the ideas that might be coming at you, because you're focused on something that at the end of the day, it's important, yeah, and everything is in its- Marcus: Also, in the industry that we work in, there are very complex problems that are being worked on, and even for the staff, we're trying to look for ways that we can bring in that time where they can unpack those problems and really dive into them, because when there's a lot of little things coming your way, sometimes it's difficult to get to the point where, okay, now I know all the things that I'm dealing with and I can start to solve those problems, so we're being diligent about that. If you look to the business world, what's one person that motivates you? Chris: One person that motivates me. Jimmy Buffett. I'm a [inaudible 00:27:24] and I as you know, people can't see on the podcast, but I wear shorts and flip-flops and usually T-shirts pretty much every day. Marcus: Yeah, you dressed up a little bit today for us. Chris: I did. I put on an actual button- Marcus: It's not a white collared shirt, but it's almost. Chris: No collars. Marcus: Yeah, exactly. Chris: To follow a passion relentlessly, and I don't know if you ever read his book, his plural books, but to follow his passion relentlessly for the amount of time he did and to have it pay off, and then to take that success that he had and not sit on it, but to continue to build his brand, continue to build casinos, hotels, now- Marcus: Restaurants. Chris: ... retirement centers. Marcus: A brilliant idea. Chris: Yeah. He has Margaritaville Assisted Living facilities out. Marcus: Wow. Chris: Restaurants, he writes books. Everything that he's been passionate about, he's just followed throughout his life. From right here in Mobile, Alabama as well. Marcus: He could have very easily have just rested on his laurels and lived the good life on the beach with the royalties- Chris: Royalties from Margaritaville. Marcus: Exactly. Chris: Yeah, because he makes ton of money from that, but I just think that his is not ... He wasn't a Steve Jobs, he wasn't Bill Gates that had this crazy technical knowledge and this genius mind, he's just passionate, that's it. He took a passion, he followed it, and he worked on that and then he took that passion and transformed that into a multi-million dollar business. Marcus: I won't unpack this right now, but it's interesting that you talk about Margaritaville and how he's using that as his brand to go into some other things. There's probably a marketing man in this video in there somewhere, so to be continued. Are there any books, podcasts, people or organizations that have been really helpful in moving you forward in the last year? Chris: I would say, yeah, there definitely been some people here in my building that have really helped us. Todd Greer has been- Marcus: Don't say that. Chris: Oh, don't say that? Marcus: No. Chris: I'm sorry. Marcus: Of all people, Todd's [inaudible 00:29:38]. Chris: Do we need to hit pause on that? No, I mean, from the day we moved into the exchange, he was extraordinarily helpful. Always available, you know? It was one of those guys that no matter ... He's always got time for you, he's always got time to talk to you, he's always got time to help you out, especially for a new business like ours when we were trying to do things that no one had heard of, and how do we explain that to people. Hayley Van Antwerp and Corey James at the Innovation Portal, very helpful to us. Scott Tendall, a good friend of mine, he always opened to have lunch and tell me, being a very straight shooter, this is a stupid idea or this is a good idea, this will work, this will not work, let me tell you why. Marcus: We all need those people in our lives. Chris: You got to have those people, you got to have those people. I think that the Mobile community has been incredible with helping us try to find our place and giving us advice when we need it. They give you tons of advice too. Some of it you can say, "Wow, we can't do that, we don't have time to do ... we don't have time to do all the advice, but you through all the advice, because of people that are genuinely trying to help you, you find some gems, and you stick with those and they've helped us tremendously. Marcus: That's really cool. All stellar people and it's very cool that you mentioned the people instead of ... Not to take anything away from books, podcast, or organizations, but the more I am in business, the more I understand that it's really the people that you lean on that make that difference. Chris: Absolutely. We can get into the Franklin Covey stuff and the Stephen Covey books and all those things, and all those things are tremendously helpful, but I agree with you. I think the most important thing are the relationship with people that we met. Marcus: What's the most important thing that you've learned about running a business? Chris: I think that it's important to understand that the highs are never that high, and the lows are never that low. I think that's an old sales adage or something but, I heard that a long time ago and it's kind of stuck with me, but it's never meant as much to me as it does now. You celebrate the successes when you have those successes, and you celebrate them as wins, knowing that tomorrow, you may take a loss. If you can kind of stay in the middle, if you can always just stay right in the middle of being too high and too low, you'll do fine. Again, it takes a ... This is not for everyone. Running your own business is not for everyone. I find it's the people that can stay calm in a crisis and also to stay calm in the success and not say, "Oh, we're going to be billionaires," and the next day think, "Oh we're going to be poor,"- Marcus: We're going out of business tomorrow. Chris: That's right. Yeah, if you can just kind of live in the middle. Marcus: Such is the life of an entrepreneur. Chris: Exactly, because it is. It is a rollercoaster ride as you well know. It is. Every day brings new challenges, every day brings new successes, and just enjoy the ride, because you don't how long you're going to be able to do it, and just living right there in the middle. Marcus: That's cool. Tell people where they can find out more information about what you all are doing and stuff like that. Chris: Well, we are at the exchange, at 202 Government Street, that's where our offices are. We have our most active page is our  page, we post a lot of things on Facebook and we have a website that's still under construction, it's always been under construction, because we keep changing. Marcus: [crosstalk 00:33:22] issues. Chris: Yeah, well we just ... Our business keeps changing, that's the thing. Marcus: Right. Chris: We started out as being one thing, and now we have morphed over the last year, in a handful of months into coming out with more specific things, so every time we think we're ready to finalize the website, we need to add something or we need to take something away. Marcus: Pivot. Chris: Yeah, that's right, pivot. Come see us at the exchange, we always have some cool toys, we're always the people with the goggles on, so you may have to knock on the door, because we may not see you, but our doors are always open and we love to show people new things and show them new toys. Marcus: You guys have open houses as well sometimes too, which is always really fun, so. Chris: Yeah, we do, we set up V-arcades at the exchange where you actually do get to play games, and we're always more than happy to show people the business applications that we've put together for other companies, but yeah, we do a lot of those things, where a lot of fun stuff at the exchange. It's a cool place to be and yeah, come see us. Marcus: Well, I want to thank you again for coming on the podcast to wrap up any final thoughts or comments you'd like to share? Chris: No, thanks for having us. We're really excited about being here in Mobile and being a part of the business community. We would love to have, for anybody listening, we would love to have more business in Mobile. It's really nice to wrack up frequent flyer miles, however, it would be nice to do some business in town and walk down the street and go to lunch at Dauphin Street or somewhere like that, so yeah, it's been a whirlwind and for anybody that's looking to do a ... to start their own business or be an entrepreneur, jump both feet in, but realize you got to swim when you jump in. Marcus: There is no other way. Again, I'm just excited that you all exist here in Mobile, because- Chris: Thanks, thank you very much. Marcus: ... normally you only here about this stuff in far off places, so I know you guys are going to be successful, so I don't need to say that, but I appreciate your willingness to sit with me and share your journey as a business owner and entrepreneur, it's been great talking with you Chris. Chris: Thanks a lot. Marcus: Yeah.