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Special Patreon Release: Better Together with Jon and Jolene Rocke   "What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder." Mark 10:9 (KJV)   *Transcription Below*   Questions and Topics We Discuss: What are you so thankful you did in every season of marriage, from newlyweds to empty nesters that you see the pay off now in the present? How has grace and forgiveness benefited your relationship? What advice do you have for all of us married couples as we seek to grow as one, rather than grow parallel or even grow apart from one another?   Jon and Jolene Rocke are my local friends and my guests for today. They work side by side at Peoria Rescue ministries, and they have so many lovely gifts of leadership and hospitality and teaching, but the topic we are going to focus on today is marriage. From the first time we met, Mark and I adored them and appreciated their sweet bond with one another, and I'm so thrilled to introduce you to them today. Here's our chat:   Jon and Jolene both grew up in Christian homes and accepted Jesus as their Savior and Lord at the age of 15.  Jon is from Morton and Jolene from Elgin, IL. They met on a bus ride to a Youth Gathering in Minnesota.  They sat together and talked the whole way home about life, the Bible and God.  Jon played his guitar and sang John Denver songs and their match was made with “Sunshine on my Shoulders”.   They married at the age of 18 and had their first child, Janelle, at 19.  They left for Grace college in Winona Lake, Indiana with an 18 month old toddler in tow and had another baby girl born while in college named Jaime.  At graduation in 1984, they were accepted to Trinity Seminary to follow Jon's desire to be a Professor of Theology, but became pregnant with their son, Jordan, which changed every plan and sent them back home to build up their finances.   They came back to Morton and worked in the Family Business and felt called to stay.  They raised their 3 children in Morton working in the business until God loosened their tent pegs and called them to Peoria Rescue Ministries in 2017. Jon is the Executive Director and Jolene is the Ministry Ambassador.  They are thankful to be working side-by-side in this new season of their marriage.   Jon and Jolene will celebrate their 44th wedding anniversary and have 3 married children and have 10 grandchildren. Their son Jordan and his wife Jessica live in Sandpoint, Idaho with their 3 Kids.  Their daughter Janelle and husband Ryan live in Kennesaw, Georgia with their 3 children.  And their daughter Jaime and her husband Jonathan live here in Morton with their 4 children.   Related Episodes from The Savvy Sauce: 5 Love Languages with Dr. Gary Chapman Traveling with Your Family with Katie Mueller   At The Savvy Sauce, we will only recommend resources we believe in! We also want you to be aware: We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.   Five Love Languages The 5 Love Languages of Teenagers A Teen's Guide to the 5 Love Languages   Thank You to Our Sponsors: Chick-fil-A East Peoria and The Savvy Sauce Charities (and donate online here)   Connect with The Savvy Sauce on Facebook, Instagram or Our Website.   Please help us out by sharing this episode with a friend, leaving a 5-star rating and review, and subscribing to this podcast!   Gospel Scripture: (all NIV) Romans 3:23 “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,”   Romans 3:24 “and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.”   Romans 3:25 (a) “God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood.”   Hebrews 9:22 (b) “without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.”   Romans 5:8 “But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.”   Romans 5:11 “Not only is this so, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.”   John 3:16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.”   Romans 10:9 “That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.”   Luke 15:10 says “In the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.”   Romans 8:1 “Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus”   Ephesians 1:13–14 “And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God's possession- to the praise of his glory.”   Ephesians 1:15–23 “For this reason, ever since I heard about your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints, I have not stopped giving thanks for you, remembering you in my prayers. I keep asking that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, may give you the spirit of wisdom and revelation, so that you may know him better. I pray also that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened in order that you may know the hope to which he has called you, the riches of his glorious inheritance in the saints, and his incomparably great power for us who believe. That power is like the working of his mighty strength, which he exerted in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly realms, far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every title that can be given, not only in the present age but also in the one to come. And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way.”   Ephesians 2:8–10 “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith – and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God – not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God‘s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.“   Ephesians 2:13 “But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near through the blood of Christ.“   Philippians 1:6 “being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.”   *Transcription*   Music: (0:00 – 0:09)   Laura Dugger: (0:10 - 2:05) Welcome to The Savvy Sauce, where we have practical chats for intentional living. I'm your host, Laura Dugger, and I'm so glad you're here. I want to say a huge thank you to today's sponsors for this episode, Chick-fil-A East Peoria and Savvy Sauce Charities.   Are you interested in a free college education for you or someone you know? Stay tuned for details coming later in this episode from today's sponsor, Chick-fil-A East Peoria. You can also visit their website today at https://www.chick-fil-a.com/locations/il/east-peoria.   If you've been with us long, you know this podcast is only one piece of our nonprofit, which is the Savvy Sauce Charities. Don't miss out on our other resources. We have questions and content to inspire you to have your own practical chats for intentional living.   And I also hope you don't miss out on the opportunity to financially support us through your tax-deductible donations. All this information can be found on our recently updated website, thesavvysauce.com.   Jon and Jolene Rocke are my local friends and my guests for today. They work side by side at Peoria Rescue Ministries, and they have so many lovely gifts of leadership and hospitality and teaching. But the topic we're going to focus on today is marriage. From the first time we met, Mark and I adored them so much and really appreciated their sweet bond with one another. And I'm so thrilled to get to introduce you to them today.   Here's our chat. Welcome to The Savvy Sauce, Jon and Jolene.   Jon Rocke: (2:05 - 2:06) We're so happy to be here, Laura. Thanks so much for having us.   Laura Dugger: (2:07 - 2:43) Well, it's truly my pleasure. And will the two of you just start by giving us a little background on how you came to know Christ as your personal Lord and Savior?   Jolene Rocke: (2:07 - 2:43) Yeah, I grew up in the Chicago area in a suburb and in a Christian home. So, I was very thankful to know about God. And I came to know Him as my personal Savior at 15. And so, then I really had a complete change. And from then on, I have just followed Him as close as I can. So very thankful for Jesus.   Jon Rocke: (2:44 - 2:59) Yeah, and I was actually 15 as well. Became overwhelmed with my sin at 15 and knew that I did not know Christ. And so, since then, a very imperfect following, but glad to be part of the family.   Laura Dugger: (3:00 - 3:15) Well, and that's awesome that both of you were 15 and never knew that piece of your story. But I'm assuming you were living in different places. So then how did the two of you meet and fall in love?   Jolene Rocke: (3:15 - 4:40) That is such a funny story. Because I, along with a friend of mine from Elgin, jumped on a Morton bus going to Morris, Minnesota. And they picked us up in Rockford. And we got on the bus, went to the same youth gathering for our church denomination. And on the way home from that weekend, we sat on the bus the whole way home and talked.   And Jon had what was so interesting to me, a study Bible. And I had never seen a study Bible in my life. And so, he showed me what an open Bible was with notes at the bottom. And because I came to Christ at 15 and started Bible study on my own with just a spiral notebook, a pen, and my Bible, I was fascinated by this Bible.   And I heard from Morton girls that he carried his Bible everywhere. So, he was kind of different than the rest of the guys. And I told them that's the kind of guy I was looking for. And then to top it all off, he had a guitar. And he sang John Denver songs to me. So, Sunshine on My Shoulders, I think, really made me happy.   Laura Dugger: (4:40 - 4:45) Just knowing your family music is such a big part of worship. Yeah. That's part of what wooed you, too.   Jon Rocke: (4:40 - 5:35) Yeah. Part of the crazy story is that it's a long trip. It's like a 12-hour trip. And so, we left Morton at like 5 in the morning. And so, I'm sleeping on the floor. And we picked these girls up. And I wake up, and I'm like, “Oh, an angel just got on the bus.” That's what I thought. And she was like, she didn't really have anything to do with me the whole weekend till the way home.   But we have a lot of fun with that story. And so that was the beginning. I think I sent flowers the next day. And we began, actually, a very long-distance, over-the-phone relationship, getting to know each other. And we actually went through, I think, the Book of Romans together over the course of, I guess, a year. And then got married. And we were pretty young.   Jolene Rocke: (5:36 - 6:47) Yeah. We met when Jon was just 16. And then two weeks after his 18th birthday, we got married. And I'm a year older. So, it was very young. But we are so thankful because we're going to celebrate 44 years of marriage here.   So, God knit us together, I think, through the fact that we were both really pursuing the Lord individually. And then we were so happy to find somebody like that. I thought I was headed to be a missionary in Africa at the time I met him. And he was, like, searching, too. But both all out pursuit of Christ. And so, I think that's what knit our hearts together. And it didn't hurt that he sent flowers the next day.   Laura Dugger: (6:47 - 7:15) It was a wise move. But I love it because the two of you have really grown up together. Totally. You've been meeting as teens. When you reflect back, what are you so thankful that you did in every season of marriage, from newlyweds to now empty nesters, that you're getting to see the payoff now in the present?   Jon Rocke: (6:49 - 8:10) Yeah, I think sometimes you are intentional. And we've tried to be intentional. But I think sometimes God brings circumstances into your life that sort of force something. So not only were we young when we got married, but nine months after we got married, yeah, we had Janelle, our oldest daughter.   And so, we had to realize we still needed time together. And we had a little baby. It began, I think, an intentional course for us to carve out time. So, you know, we put our kids to bed early. It was a big deal for us as parents that we had our time after they went to bed because we didn't get a whole lot of time.   And other little silly things, the kids didn't get to sit in between us at church. That was the rule. You can sit on either side of mom and dad, but you can't sit in between us. And so that was just, you know, again, a little thing that we did. And some things we had to learn. I'm more of a night person. Jolene's more of a morning person. Part of that, we had to learn at one point, you know, let's make sure we prioritize going to bed together. Just so, again, we had that time. So, there's been all sorts of different steps along the way that we've tried to prioritize each other.   Jolene Rocke: (8:10 - 9:01) So the two words that come to my mind with regard to that are compromise. You're two different people, and you're suddenly thrust together into a home situation. Well, that took compromise on both of our parts. So that's kind of sacrifice, too. That means he doesn't get to stay up until midnight if we want to go to bed together, and I'm going to have to push myself to stay up later just so that we can make a common bedtime.   So, compromise, and then I think the other major thing to me would be communication, because we didn't have a relationship before marriage where we were in the same town and could see each other all the time or go on dates. We didn't have that. So, we had letter writing. This is 43 years ago. So, we had letter writing daily.   Jon Rocke: (9:02 - 9:04) Some of us were daily. He was daily.   Jolene Rocke: (9:05 - 9:11) I wasn't quite as good at letter writing every day, but I was in college by now.   Jon Rocke: (9:11 - 9:13) You were still in high school. Now we know.   Jolene Rocke: (9:14 - 10:15) But I think the communication factor, that actually helped us because, yes, I realize face-to-face dating is a great thing, but to not be able to do that and have nothing but be able to write your day out, what happened during your day, you're learning to tell the other person what happened in your day, how you felt about that, what your dreams, your goals are. So, it started, to me and us, I think a great foundation of communication.   Laura Dugger: (10:15 - 10:30) And is it Song of Songs, I believe, 5:16, where part of it says, “This is my lover, this is my friend,” and that's what I'm hearing, is that you were really deepening your friendship in those early years and that from witnessing your lives, it seems that has only continued.   Jolene Rocke: (10:30 - 10:35) Yeah, exactly. We are so thankful. It's a very different story than most people, but we're so thankful.   Jon Rocke: (10:16 - 10:39) I think also, for us, it was Genesis 2 in the sense that you need to leave everything else and cleave together. We were young. It's hard to believe. When we look back, we think about our kids and our grandkids and would we want that for them, and yet I don't think we'd trade it for the world.   Laura Dugger: (10:40 - 10:52) I love that. And what encouragement do you have for others then who are also wanting to build a foundation of remaining connected and intimate in all the aspects of their own marriage?   Jon Rocke: (10:53 - 12:07) That's one of those things about being intentional. Matthew 19:6, where Christ repeats that adage from Genesis 2, that God created them male and female, they need to leave mother and father and cleave together, but then he adds this, “and no one should tear that apart.” And we often think about that, I think, as other people tearing that apart, and that's true.   But the same goes, we can tear ourselves apart if we're not going to make sure everything else, all other distractions, because they're going to continually come, right? And again, we had kids so early that I think we knew we had to carve that time out, because if we wouldn't have, I'm not sure how that would have worked. We would have been so consumed early. But career, we've just known that we've had to say, if we don't make sure that we're the priority, it's so easy to get lost in all the other things of life that are not bad. Kids are not bad, they're great. And your careers and your work, that's all good. But it can be the enemy of great in a marriage.   Jolene Rocke: (12:07 - 12:32) Yeah, we talked about the fact that this is how we started all those years ago. But a pursuit of God individually actually enhances a pursuit of God together. I'm still in the Word individually. Jon's still in the Word individually. But we also then read and pray together every night. So just this pursuit of God.   Jon Rocke: (12:32 - 13:06) But that wasn't something we did from day one either. I mean, that was a learned scenario where one time we were just kind of convicted of the fact that together we're not taking time to pray and read together. And so, then we just made that part of routine at night. So then again, that made us say we're going to go to bed together. Because if we didn't, then we didn't have that time. That opportunity to pray together and read together has just become a connection point that we wouldn't want to trade.   Laura Dugger: (13:07 - 13:55) I think that's encouraging in so many ways because you've grown into this. And I think for anyone just starting out, it's so helpful to see you didn't let excuses get in the way. It reminds me of a supervisor in college who said, “If you want something done, give it to a busy person.” And I think in a unique way with you two being launched into parenthood nine months after you were married, you didn't have the luxury of being frivolous with your time. And you chose intentionality. And it seems like God really has blessed that and honored it.   Jolene Rocke: (13:55 - 14:05) Yeah and continued it to this day. You're very right. We continue to be busy. And that's still the struggle to combat that with intentional time together. So definitely.   Jon Rocke: (13:55 - 14:31) You talk about seasons in our lives. So, I had to have a hip replacement. So, from like 23 till I had that at 50, I couldn't take long walks. But now we get to walk together, which is a huge privilege. And so, I always think about it. I'm not into exercise to exercise, but I'm into being together. And exercise is a thing we can do together. The other thing we did in our, I guess it was on our 25th. We got a tandem bike. And we love doing our tandem bike.   Jolene Rocke: (14:31 - 16:21) But he wanted a tandem bike right when we got married. And I kept saying, no, I didn't really want to sit on the back and have no control. And not be able to see when I thought I should break or when I wanted to turn.   So, this is something that I often encourage women that are moving into the emptiness season of life. I was driving to church alone. And the Lord really impressed on me that the extreme lavish amount of love that as a homemaker I gave to my children who were now gone, I needed to transfer that to my husband.   I've always loved Jon first and best. But I needed to take even the time commitment. What could I do to show Jon I loved him lavishly the way I tried to my children? So that was a time thing for me. And it was like get a tandem bike. So, I was willing then to get the tandem and sit in the back. And you really do; you're called the stoker. You really do work in the back. You don't just sit there. You work. But I no longer had the control of that. And I am learning to see butterflies land on corn stalks. And I actually love our tandem bike. But God had to grow me. And that was part of my several gifts to him in emptiness period that has helped us keep a strong marriage, I think.   Laura Dugger: (16:21 - 16:30) And isn't that interesting how there's a gift in it for you? Like you offer this sacrifice and yet he's teaching you new things.   Jon Rocke: (16:21 - 16:22) I love it, yeah.   Laura Dugger: (16:23 - 16:45) What would you two say is the biggest personality difference that you've recognized in your own marriage?   Jolene Rocke: (16:45 - 17:22) We just had a personality test yesterday. We have an executive team leadership at Peoria Rescue Ministries, and we had to do personality tests again. And that always is quite glaring to see how different we are. So, we're on two ends of the spectrum. But we can encourage any marriage that that can work and actually maybe be in your favor as long as you work hard at it. So, it just takes work and communication to say, you're very logical thinking, I'm very emotional, so how do we come together then in situations where I'm flustered and he's calm because he at times looks as if you don't care.   Jon Rocke: (17:22 - 17:53) Right, yeah, it can be that. You're highly relational. I'm definitely more process. And I think you're going to learn quickly, especially if you have kids, that all your kids are going to have different personalities. That's the weirdest thing, right? They all grew up in the same home and they're all just completely different. And so being able to help them understand kind of a little bit who they are and how that works has been a good thing that we're not the same.   Jolene Rocke: (17:53 - 20:01) God didn't make one good and one bad. He made all of us different, all in His image, to His glory. We all bring value to the family, and we both bring value to one another as helpmates because I'm able to sharpen Jon in areas that are blind spots for him. He's able to totally sharpen me and calm me in blind spots that are mine. So, I think in a marriage, it's just actually, it's been helpful. Differences are good.   Laura Dugger: (20:01 - 20:25) Oh, I love that. Differences are good. It sounds like God sanctified even your views of that. And so, getting really practical, when was a time when your differences were working against each other or caused conflict? And then how, through maturing and more time together, how do you celebrate and even lean into and appreciate those differences?   Jolene Rocke: (20:25 - 21:00) Well, one thing for sure is we had what we call our valley, where we learned that Psalm 23 wasn't just a funeral psalm, but it's a life psalm, and it's a way of life psalm. So, at that time, I had three family members pass away, and Jon had his family business go down. So, we watched our personalities within that in handling loss and grief. So, here's the optimist really down, and here's realist trying to be cheerleader and be up.   And so actually God did it, and we know without a doubt that God can work beyond personalities and bring you to a point where you can actually support one another well. But there again, it's got to be intentional. It's got to be me saying, we need to sit down now and have a meeting, talk about how you're feeling, whether you want to talk about feelings or not, because I need to know where you're at so that I can help you best.   Jon Rocke: (20:01 - 21:20) Yeah, and on a practical level during that time, I found myself not communicating some of what I thought was either scary or just the long drag of it. And so that was a potential way for us to disconnect because all of this is swirling from at least our livelihood standpoint, swirling in my head, and I'm not going to want to share that. And yet we realized we had to, but then those are not always easy things because Jolene, like most ladies, likes security as an important thing, right? Of just knowing what's going to happen.   In the end, it did make us really, again, Joe mentioned Psalm 23, and if he is our shepherd, what else could we want? We both had to end up clinging to that because our security was gone. Part of our sense of who we were, and particularly me in a family business for three generations, was gone. And so, we certainly had to make sure that our tendencies, like in communication, those kinds of things, we had to work through those during that time.   Laura Dugger: (21:21 - 21:30) Thank you for sharing that. I think that's very relatable to hear about the ups and the downs. And so, do you have any specific stories of a time when you were both in your strengths, and even though they were very different, they worked well together?   Jolene Rocke: (21:30 - 23:12) Yeah, I think that it's the learning what your strengths are that you may not know that God gives you at the time, and that's his grace. So, at the time, for all those years previous to the valley, Jon was the one that pushed me to communicate, and shutting down was not an option, which is what I wanted to do. So, I'd rather just not talk about it and go to bed. And he would push, push, push me to keep communicating, and that we would work through everything before the sun went down, as the Bible says.   Well, in the valley, it was Jon that was shutting down. And suddenly, you know, I had to be the one to push communication. So, this is something I heard on a sermon. A personality is not an excuse for sin. So that just means that I can't say, well, I'm not comfortable in conflict, so I'm not going to communicate and I'm going to shut down. No, you need to push yourself, ask the Lord for help, and go as his helpmate and say, you have to talk about it, you have to tell me, how are you doing? How are you feeling? So, I feel like it's just, it was such a beautiful valley when we look back now.   Laura Dugger: (23:12 - 23:25) Another previous guest had said she noticed when she was in the valley, that's when you're closest to the living water.   Jon Rocke: (23:13 - 24:41) Oh, absolutely. For sure. That's how creeks run, through valleys. Yeah. And I think our parenting, it was helpful for us to have both sides of our personality in parenting because I think we could address situations with our kids from different viewpoints and different ways to think about things, and those were helpful things as well.   But we also, during all sorts of the periods of time in our marriage, we had some little things that just reminded us. We had little words. So one was, you know, “we need to swim back.” So, you can often find yourself, because of a season of time or a season with your kids or whatever on the different islands, and we would just say, we got to swim back. And so that was one of our things that we did. And then we also had a, if we went too long, we just realized we weren't intentional about our intimacy of any kind. It was just basically, “Hey, you didn't kiss me today.” And we used to make that, “No, you didn't kiss me today.” And it was just a thing we tried to do to make sure that we had these little things that just kept us reminded. And so, they were really, they were kind of practical, just little code words for us that made a difference and got our minds back to where it needed to be.   Jolene Rocke: (24:41 - 24:50) Yeah, and in the busyness, that's easy to remember those little swing thoughts.   Laura Dugger: (24:50 - 30:17) Swim back. And now a brief message from our sponsor.   Did you know you can go to college tuition free just by being a team member at Chick-fil-A East Peoria? Yes, you heard that right. Free college education. All Chick-fil-A East Peoria team members in good standing are immediately eligible for a free college education through Point University. Point University is a fully accredited private Christian college located in West Point, Georgia. 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We ask that you also will share by sharing financially, sharing the Savvy Sauce podcast episodes, and sharing a five-star rating and review. You can also share any of our social media posts on Instagram or Facebook. We are grateful for all of it and we just love partnering together with you.   Now, back to the show. What encouragement do you have for healthy communication and healthy conflict resolution in marriage?   Jon Rocke: (30:19 - 31:31) God's grace. It's going to have to take time. You have to find that time together. So, I think it's all about prioritizing that time. I don't necessarily like conflict, but I know in our marriage you can't avoid it. And so, we just had to work through it right away. And so, I would say don't let time simmer conflict because that usually never makes it better.   Certainly, there's a sense of if there's something that's really emotional and maybe you need some space. My problem is I often don't give Jolene that space and that's hard on her, it really is, and sometimes not fair. But in the same vein, for me it felt like I didn't care if I just said, “Well, go ahead and be angry or be whatever or be upset about this or just let's not deal with it.” And she was gracious in pressing in and doing that. But I think don't let time go, just deal with it.   Jolene Rocke: (31:32 - 33:26) And two, the encouragement I think of is that Jon and I tell each other everything, every little thing. And we are very aware of couples that don't. And when Jon was holding back for me in that valley time, I really noticed it and I felt pretty alone. So, if you're always telling each other everything, there should be no secrets. So that just means there might be conflict then. If you're going to tell each other everything, then there might be conflict and you need to be prepared for that.   But that's better than me not saying anything. I sometimes say it's like a teapot, you're simmering or you're spouting. What's the perfect in the middle balance? It's really important to not simmer because you will spout eventually and then that's a harder conflict than if you just kept talking, kept telling every little thing. And so, we do tell each other every little thing.   Laura Dugger: (33:26 - 33:40) Well, and to go with that metaphor, if you have a release valve where that hot air can escape, it sounds like your communication has been that where you can get the water temperature back to a healthy place in the relationship.   Jolene Rocke: (33:40 - 33:55) Yeah, yes. And that takes work. So, I mean, honestly, what encouragement? Don't give up. Just keep going because it's worth it.   Laura Dugger: (33:55 - 34:10) Well, and I'm thinking back. Okay, so you had three kids. They're somewhat close together and you were young. So those years when all of your children were in the home, even elementary school age, that timeframe, what did that look like for communication? How did you still make sure you connected every day?   Jon Rocke: (33:26 - 34:31) Well, then throw in, we went to college after we had kids, which was actually, again, just God's grace and gift to us that we were able to leave town, leave the family business for a while, didn't think we were going to be involved in family business, went out to Indiana, went to school, and we didn't have anybody else but ourselves. And so that, again, was just his gift to us as young. We went in 1980, so that was two years after we were married. So, we already had Janelle at that point, and then Jamie came along soon after. And so, I had school but had to work to support. Jolene had to work and she was mom to two little ones. And so, again, I think it was just those times of making sure that we said nothing else can get in the way of us. Again, another phrase that we just had was, you know, we can get through anything together and nothing apart.   Jolene Rocke: (34:32 - 35:21) And that's not a flippant statement for us. That means we're trying and we're going to find the intentional time, put them to bed early, and make sure on weekends we're connecting well. And that meant sometimes driving with our kids. We'd go on drives. But that's Jon and I being able to talk. And then if they're goofing off in the back seat, it's okay. It's just fine because we actually are having talk time. Drive time has always been great communication time for us.   Laura Dugger: (35:21 - 35:35) That's really helpful, I think, for parents in any season. And you're talking about God's grace. So how has grace, and even forgiveness, benefited your relationship?   Jolene Rocke: (35:35 - 35:40) It's everything to our relationship.   Jon Rocke: (35:22 - 37:12) It's the only thing in everything. The parable of the unjust steward in Matthew 18 and just this idea that if you catch the enormity of your sin, then you can forgive others. And so that has been, I think, an important part of what we do because I love that whole story. Peter is asking that question, “How many times do I have to forgive somebody?” And if you think about a marriage context, well, that's a great question because my guess is it's going to be thousands upon thousands of times for whatever little or big things they are. And he's kind of like loading up. I feel that he's getting ready to say, “I've already forgiven this person six times. So, is it seven? And then after that, there's no more?” And the whole point of that is, oh, you really want to keep numbers, Peter? Here's the numbers. You've been forgiven zillions. And so, what's the little trifle amount that you're not going to forgive? And so, I'm thankful that Jolene is gracious because she's had to forgive me and continues to. We're still learning in a new season of life where now we get to work together, which to me is a really great joy. But it's also a different reality where we have a lot of work talk. Well, that's great. And we love that. But that can't dominate everything either. And so that's another one of those things that we have to figure out how to carve out our time away from work. Even though we enjoy working together and it's really fun, it's a new thing. That can't get in the way of us either.   Jolene Rocke: (37:13 - 40:14) There's got to be grace on both parts that now as I look at him as a boss also. And my husband, you know, I need to give a lot of grace to realize he's working within a momentum around a team and a leadership. But then as he comes home, and I'm very fully aware now of what a hat change that means for a man. That means that he's taking off his hat now and becoming my husband at home. And so, it's grace on both sides as he sees me working even under him or with him as a team. But it's a lot of grace and forgiveness over the years because in the early years as you're raising children, there might be unmet expectations is something I wrote down because I feel like as I think back to this pursuer of God and who I married and I remember those early years thinking, well, wow, he's not leading in devotions in the family. And I'm kind of struggling to find, I need to, as the mom then, pick that up and make sure we're doing with the children some family devotions. Well, that can create controversy. It can be that I would be upset, but I needed to forgive him for the fact that he didn't mean to do that and abdicate that responsibility. He just didn't know. And so, there's so much about being graceful as a wife to say, okay, I understand. That wasn't maybe how you were raised, or you didn't see that modeled in the home. But this is what I would desire for our family. And so, you just keep working and you keep forgiving because we've been forgiven so much, as Jon said. So, we know that. And I think the other key thing then with forgiveness becomes no record keeping, just as love is in 1 Corinthians 13. It doesn't keep the record of wrongs. I don't need to sit around with my time and in my brain and think about how much I've forgiven Jon. I need to think about the fact that God's forgiven so much in me, and he has to forgive me all the time. So, you're on this equal footing with forgiveness rather than trying to harbor a record of wrongs.   Laura Dugger: (40:14 - 40:40) Well, and I think you bring up examples for how it works in our families as well with children. And so, it's clear you two have such a solid marriage and you also have a thriving relationship with your adult children and your grandchildren and all their families. So, I think you just have a lot that you could teach us about raising a family as well. What are you so thankful that you did when your kids were living at home that you're now getting to see the payoff as they're adults?   Jon Rocke: (40:16 - 41:43) We literally grew up with our kids. So sorry for our kids that they had to, you know, grow up with their mom and dad. But that's been a lot of fun too because we did a lot of play. Again, these are just little things for us, these little words. So, as the kids were young, we used to, something that bothered them is I would tell them pretty plainly that I love mom most. And so, kids will always try to drive a wedge between mom and dad. That's just part of the fallen nature of kids. And so, we really communicated early. Our kids will tell you that was a hard lesson for them to learn that they didn't quite understand at that age, right? But they've really come to appreciate that in their own marriages. And then the other thing that we said was we choose you second. So, they knew we choose each other first because you're going to be gone someday and mom's not. And so, but we will always choose you second. So, friends were not a higher priority or social or hobby or anything. You know, the kids were always knew they were second. And so our kids are scattered all across, although we have Jamie and Jonathan here, one family here in Morton that we love to live life with. The others are gone, but I think we're still close in a lot of ways from that.   Jolene Rocke: (41:45 - 45:27) Yeah, I think we're a close family because we have stuck together through not just the ups, but the downs, but we're fun loving. Jon and I like games. We like to do stuff, and we like to go places. We prioritized vacation when they were little so that we were all together in an intentional environment that was away from home. And so, we were together, they enjoyed going to Florida every year and it was always what we called just happenstances that were so adverse. It wasn't your ideal. And so, we did not have ideal things happen on any trip, actually, that we go on. So, what we decided to call them is adventures. So, we intentionally took adverse situations, whether that's a flat tire, going to Florida with all the kids and it's the middle of the night and we're all sitting at a gas station on the curb waiting for the next tire to get fixed. It's just, we just always called them adventures and I'm not sorry for that. That's something our kids are passing on to their kids when things happen. Our son in particular, Jordan, his family seems to have a lot of adventures, like Jon and I have had. And that's what they call them to their children. So, I'm not sorry for the word adventure. Jon taught me a saying that he used to say, you love your children, even if you don't like them or you will lose them. And that was really important in the teenage years. When one of our children was struggling in junior high, I knew even if I didn't like the way this one was acting, I needed to just keep loving them as scripture says, right? Not if they're perfect, but all the time. And so, we didn't lose her through that time, I think because there was so much intentional loving beyond the liking. The other thing that I would just mention with that to encourage any, any mom or dad, I picked up the book, The Five Love Languages by Gary Chapman and had this daughter read it with me so that we can learn, how do we love each other? Well, through this time when it feels like we don't really like each other that well. So, well, wow. I had no idea. It was physical touch for you. And I, I thought it was the acts of service. And you would notice that I picked up your room because I knew you had a hard day in a test at school. Well, there was never any knowledge or awareness that I did that for her. But whenever I put my arms around her and gave her a giant hug and wouldn't let her go until she melted in my arms, I realized, yes, that's what she, that's how I can love her best.   Laura Dugger: (45:27 - 45:50) That is awesome to hear that story. It is helpful to have actionable things that we can replicate. And so, I am going to link in the show notes to a few of our episodes that may be beneficial. If people want to take that concept a step further, Dr. Gary Chapman has been a previous guest. I'll link to those. And then also Katie Mueller talked about traveling with your family and the lessons that the Lord teaches his children about traveling in the Bible and how that applies to us. That's great. So, if you're willing, will you share anything more about the honeymoon? I'm so curious now.   Jon Rocke: (45:27 - 46:35) We will. I feel like we're taking too much time here.   Jolene Rocke: (46:35 - 46:36) I don't know, but well, we knew that this was setting the tone for marriage as far as adventures.   Jon Rocke: (46:36 - 46:37) But well, the very first off we, we got on a plane. So, we got married on a Sunday and we were flying out down to Florida on Sunday night. We got to Atlanta where we were supposed to connect to another plane. We were supposed to go to Fort Myers, Florida and there had been a storm and, and they were rushing to get us on the right flights or to get us to the next flight. And they put us on the wrong plane. You know, this was back in the day where that could happen. Couldn't happen today, but put us on the wrong plane. We ended up in Melbourne, Florida at midnight last flight of the night. You know, we're newlyweds. We're supposed to be, you know, on our honeymoon. They put us up at a Holiday Inn Express with the crew and said, you know, we'll get you out a flight. You have to be up at 4 a.m. And so, you know, I was, our first night was not necessarily what you would, you know, call the most romantic night that we could have. And then do you want to tell the second story of our honeymoon?   Jolene Rocke: (46:36 - 46:37) The canoe trip.   Jon Rocke: (46:37 - 46:37) Yeah.   Jolene Rocke: (46:37 - 47:28) The canoe trip is, I have such bad allergies to many things. And so, Jon knew that because we tried to go horseback riding and I thought I'd be okay because it was outdoors, but the dander on the horse made me just blow up into a big ball on my face. And so, he realized how much I have a problem with allergies, but we decided to go canoeing in a very narrow mangrove swamp. That was really depleted in, in its depth that day. And so, we were canoeing along, but we, we got into the side of the mangrove trees and out came a Hornets, Hornets out of this giant nest and stung me all over my back.   Jon Rocke: (47:28 - 47:50) And so Jon went into, I'm like thinking that my six day, you know, marriage is over. My wife, who's so allergic, we're half hour out on our journey and I'm, she's like going to die on the spot. Cause I figured if she's so allergic to animals, then this many, you know, bee stings or wasp stings, she's, you know, she's dead.   Jolene Rocke: (47:52 - 48:12) So he jumps, jumps out. Yeah. First, the truth is he took my top off and started taking mud from the bottom of the creek and, just plasters me with mud on my back. And then he jumps out of the canoe and starts running the, the canoe. Cause it was pretty shallow.   Jon Rocke: (48:12 - 48:31) I decided it was going to be quicker to get her back in time. I figured I had about 30 minutes, you know, to, to try to get her to some medical attention. And so, yeah, so I'm running the canoe back instead of paddling it. Cause I knew I could get faster. Well, then I cut my foot on a shoal and we're a mess.   Jolene Rocke: (48:31 - 48:37) I mean, he had it. What? Like six-inch stitches. So, we ended up in the ER here.   Jon Rocke: (48:37 - 48:38) Yeah.   Jolene Rocke: (48:38 - 48:52) Both of us with me, with stings, Jon, with a cut. And, and that was just the start of the honeymoon that we called a giant adventure adventure since it wasn't great.   Jon Rocke: (48:52 - 48:55) It's been a 44-year adventure.   Laura Dugger: (48:55 - 49:15) You did start with quite the adventure. I love that. And I think the husbands' listening will appreciate, of course you took their top off first.   Jon Rocke: (49:03 - 49:04) That's right.   Jolene Rocke: (49:05 - 49:07) It was a little embarrassing.   Jon Rocke: (49:08 - 49:10) It was a good thing. Nobody else.   Jolene Rocke: (49:10 - 49:15) Nobody else.   Laura Dugger: (49:15 - 49:25) Sorry. I had to tease on that part, but through various seasons, how did you prioritize one another above your kids, your career and your own families of origin?   Jon Rocke: (49:25 - 50:35) We just knew we had to have time. So, a couple of things. I mean, we had a fortunate built in mechanism too, to take trips together. So, within our family business, we had conferences and such that we had to attend. And so, we made that a priority that we were going to do those together. I wasn't going to just go by myself. And so, a couple of times a year, and now that we're working together, it can feel like life blurs between everything. So, while we're at home, we're still talking about work and we're still dealing with ministry. And the other thing is with our kids away, a lot of our trip time is spent with our kids. So, we have to make that, that's gotta be a priority, but we realized we still need just our time away. and when we got, we went down to Florida and we just said, okay, no work talk for these five days, you know, no work talk. And it was pretty fun because most of the time Jolene broke that rule. And I would say, wait a minute, no work talk.   Jolene Rocke: (50:36 - 50:36) It's true.   Jon Rocke: (50:37 - 51:09) It's very true. But those, so trips were a big thing for us, and they don't have to be a big deal trip, but a weekend away to break the routine. You know, the example of that was, that's why God created festivals and holidays were to break routine and to have a stop in our everyday lives. And so, he knew we needed that to reconnect with him. Well, we know we need that in our marriages is to break the routine.   Jolene Rocke: (51:10 - 52:17) Very intentionally. Jon was wise enough to know we needed that as even as young as he was. Can you imagine the volumes of love that that spoke to me, that he wanted me to go with him on the trips. So that meant so much to me. And it still does today because he always wants me to go with him. And then I, I just have over the years, like when the kids were at home, that was days of rest for me when he was in meetings. But as I started growing too, as a person and not needing as much rest, I also would go into all the meetings because I liked the learning. But even as we went through college, like I just was always a part of the learning. And, and I liked that, but Jon included me. That said a lot to me.   Laura Dugger: (52:18 - 52:25) And I love your companionship, how you prioritize that. What advice do you have for all of us married couples as we seek to grow as one rather than start to grow parallel or even worse, start to grow apart from one another?   Jon Rocke: (52:18 - 52:47) Yeah, I think find things to do together. That's part of how even the biking, the tandem thing came about. Cause if we went out on bikes on our individual bikes, then I'm like, I'm wanting to run ahead. Well, you know, and then, and she's like, you know, you're not getting very much exercise or whatever the case may be. But then on a tandem, we could accomplish everything together. And so, finding some of those things.   Jolene Rocke: (52:47 - 54:56) So there's seasons of time when you're raising your children, like that, Jon was biking by himself and with some other men in a fast pace for extreme exercise. And I was doing my thing. And so, I'm not saying that hobbies apart from one another are negative, but for us, they've been mostly together. And so that just means that even there was a period that yes, Jon would go out golfing, not in excess, but when our kids were around and little, I think I was communicating even in that, that you don't just go off golfing every Saturday and leave your wife with the kids on a Saturday because you now that's your day off work. No, it's, we never get a day off work. So, you need to kick in at home too. So, there was this balance, I think is a really good word for how do you, how do you do like even individual hobbies and exercise even, but then mostly we're always trying to figure out how we can do things together. So, taking a back seat, literally on a tandem bike and knowing that that was going to help our marriage to be together. I also said recently now in a decade ago, I will learn how to golf. And so that, that just meant, again, I have no, no interest that much in golfing. I thought I loved riding the car around and being outside, but now it's like, yes, I will learn to golf if that means that that's another hobby and a sport and an activity that we can do together. So, we started a Friday night golf time, just Jon and I, it's a date night of golf and Dairy Queen supper. We call it Dairy Queen supper because we just don't eat supper, but we eat Dairy Queen after we go. So there again, there's just like, what are, what can we do together? And we're still doing date nights because it's just, we actually are really good friends still.   Jon Rocke: (54:57 - 55:51) Well, I think like I say, every season has been different for us. There was a time where kids were intense and Joe was a phenomenal mom and, was totally engaged in that. And you're in your career phase too. And so, all those things are competing. Well, then we've come back in the last five years and now we work together. So that's a different whole different dynamic. And so that's why we needed, you know, yeah, we need a golf and Dairy Queen night because we just need to get away from the intensity of our work relationship, you know, and take that break on our tandems. We usually ride for breakfast. So, most things have to do with food. It's not about exercise. It's about how to eat. So that's kind of just part of what we do.   Laura Dugger: (55:51 - 56:19) I love it though. That's an interest for all people. It's something that we have to do multiple times a day. Well, what do you want to leave us with? Whether it's a challenge or scripture, it can be anything, but how would you like to wind down our time together today?   Jolene Rocke: (56:19 - 56:30) I'm going to just say to encourage everyone. Our marriage has taken compromise and it's taken communication and it pays off in the end.   Jon Rocke: (56:19 - 57:11) You know, Ephesians 5 is really an important understanding that it's submitting to each other. The idea of wives submit to your husband, you're not catching the whole picture of that. If that's what your focus is, because it's husband loves you, love your wives as Christ loved the church. And so, and it starts the whole section off with submit to one another. And so, we have to be just intentional and committed. One of my favorite sayings is from Augustine, who says, when he was in prayer one time says to God, “Command what you will, but give what you command.” And so, when I think about our marriage, that's what grace is all about. Yes, it takes intentionality and commitment, but that only comes by his grace.   Jolene Rocke: (57:11 - 57:55) And one other thing that I thought of is that we always taught our kids to remember whose they are. And that just means that if you do that within a marriage too, and you're remembering that you're the Lord's, you're made in his image, then you relate and you will love the other one better. Even as you know your identity in Christ first, you will love your mate better.   Laura Dugger: (57:55 - 58:05) Amen. And you too may know we're called The Savvy Sauce because savvy is synonymous with practical knowledge. And so, as my final question for both of you today, what is your savvy sauce?   Jon Rocke: (57:56 - 58:07) You know, I just say submission is a good thing. It's not associated that way, but in a marriage it's such a good thing.   Jolene Rocke: (58:08 - 59:13) So that's both submitting to each other, not just the wife being clamped down. But our savvy sauce would be that sacrifice and submission are good things. They're not bad words. So, in our experience, a savvy sauce for our 44-year-old marriage is that sacrifice and submission have been very good things on both of our parts.   Laura Dugger: (59:13 - 59:20) Well, you clearly live this out, and you've been great role models to Mark and to me and our family. You love one another with such an intensity, and you love your Lord that way, and you love your children that way in your community. And I just see the way that He's had this ripple out from being intentional in the most key important parts of life, and that He's really blessed you in that, but He's also blessed all of us around you. So, thank you for sharing your journey with us. Thank you so much for being my guest.   Jolene Rocke: (59:20 - 59:22) It's been so great to be here with you. Thanks for asking, Laura.   Jon Rocke: (59:13 - 59:27) Yeah, it's been a privilege for us just to take the time to reflect again and realize the challenges, but really just celebrate what God has done through His grace in us and our marriage. So, thanks.   Laura Dugger: (59:27 - 1:03:10) One more thing before you go, have you heard the term gospel before? It simply means good news. And I want to share the best news with you, but it starts with the bad news.   Every single one of us were born sinners, but Christ desires to rescue us from our sin, which is something we cannot do for ourselves. This means there's absolutely no chance we can make it to heaven on our own. So, for you and for me, it means we deserve death, and we can never pay back the sacrifice we owe to be saved.   We need a savior, but God loved us so much. He made a way for his only son to willingly die in our place as the perfect substitute. This gives us hope of life forever in right relationship with him.   That is good news. Jesus lived the perfect life. We could never live and died in our place for our sin.   This was God's plan to make a way to reconcile with us so that God can look at us and see Jesus. We can be covered and justified through the work Jesus finished. If we choose to receive what he has done for us, Romans 10:9 says, “that if you confess with your mouth, Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.”   So, you pray with me now. Heavenly father, thank you for sending Jesus to take our place. I pray someone today right now is touched and chooses to turn their life over to you.   Will you clearly guide them and help them take their next step in faith to declare you as Lord of their life? We trust you to work and change lives now for eternity. In Jesus name we pray.   Amen. If you prayed that prayer, you are declaring him for me. So, me for him, you get the opportunity to live your life for him.   And at this podcast, we're called The Savvy Sauce for a reason. We want to give you practical tools to implement the knowledge you have learned. So, you're ready to get started.   First, tell someone, say it out loud, get a Bible. The first day I made this decision, my parents took me to Barnes and Noble and let me choose my own Bible. I selected the Quest NIV Bible and I love it.   You can start by reading the book of John. Also get connected locally, which just means tell someone who's a part of a church in your community that you made a decision to follow Christ. I'm assuming they will be thrilled to talk with you about further steps such as going to church and getting connected to other believers to encourage you.   We want to celebrate with you too. So, feel free to leave a comment for us here. If you did make a decision to follow Christ, we also have show notes included where you can read scripture that describes this process.   And finally, be encouraged. Luke 15:10 says, “in the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.” The heavens are praising with you for your decision today.   And if you've already received this good news, I pray you have someone to share it with. You are loved and I look forward to meeting you here next time.

Episode 173 DNA ID Replay Kim Bryant and Diana Hanson While Jess is on winter break preparing new episodes of DNA ID for 2026, we are airing some of our favorite one part episodes weekly in  what we call 'DNA ID Replay' episodes. These Replay episodes will air every week while on break with the exception of Christmas week. In this episode, we explore the case of Kim Bryant and Diana Hanson which originally aired in episode 37. 1979 Las Vegas, a weekday morning. 16 year old Kim Bryant was at a Dairy Queen waiting for her ride – and then she was gone. Her body was found a month later, sexually assaulted, beaten and murdered. A notorious serial killer was the only real suspect – he was executed in Texas, but he didn't kill her. When a tip came in in 2019, new testing was conducted on the biological evidence in Kim's case that isolated a male DNA profile. Forensic genealogy led to the name of a suspect, and further testing of his living relatives revealed that he was the killer of Kim Bryant. But naming him also allowed the LVMPD to close another cold case – the 1983 abduction, rape and murder of 22 year old Diana Hanson. The same killer had struck twice – at least.   To listen to every episode of DNA: ID ad-free and get other benefits, simply  visit our channel page on Apple Podcasts to get started with an AbJack Insider subscription. Of course, you can also support DNA: ID with a Patreon subscription. Follow us on social media;  find all of our social media links in one spot at our Linktree:  linktr.ee/dnaidpodcast ©2026 AbJack Entertainment -All rights reserved. This content is the sole property of AbJack Entertainment. Any unauthorized re-selling, re-purposing, or re-distribution, is strictly prohibited, and will be subject to legal action.   

Over the next few weeks, I'm gonna be sharing my new book with you—start to finish. The whole thing. It's called Bigfoot Country. All told, it's around eight hours of narration. So, I'll be putting it out in multiple episodes. And honestly... I've been sitting on this for a long time. I'm excited—and a little nervous—to finally put it out there. But before we jump in, I wanna take a minute. Just you and me.What you're about to hear is loosely based on my life. Some of it happened exactly the way I tell it. No embellishment, no polish. Other parts are rooted in real experiences—real people, real moments, real emotions—but maybe stretched a bit, or reimagined, to help the story breathe. And then there are parts where… well, you get to decide what you believe.I also wanna be upfront about something. Early on, you might find yourself wondering where this is all headed. There's a lot of groundwork—family, childhood, personal history. Just know this: it's going somewhere. This book is about Bigfoot. That's the destination. I promise. Just trust me long enough to get there. At its heart, this is a story about my earliest experiences with the strange and unexplained. It starts with something that happened to me when I was twelve years old—an encounter with what I believe was a Sasquatch. That moment stayed with me. It shaped a lot of who I became. And for years, I struggled with how—or even if—I should ever tell that story. Because how do you talk about something the world insists isn't real? How do you open yourself up like that, knowing people are gonna judge you, doubt you, or dismiss you entirely?But these stories have always mattered to me. This book has always mattered. And at some point, I realized I was done keeping it all tucked away. Here's the thing, though—I didn't just write about Bigfoot. I wrote about me. All of me. My childhood. My parents. My failures. My struggles. And yeah… Dani.I know that part isn't gonna sit well with everyone. I get that. Some folks are gonna have opinions, and that's their right. But for me, leaving any of that out would've been dishonest. I can't ask you to trust me with these experiences and then hide pieces of who I am. I can't tell my story without including the person who stood beside me through the hardest parts of it. That's just not how I live, and it's not how this book was written.Believe me, I thought about sanding down the rough edges. Making it cleaner. Safer. Easier to swallow. Cutting out the parts that might make people uncomfortable. But I couldn't do it. I've spent too much of my life holding back, and I'm done with that.So this is me. This is my story. All of it. Some of what you'll hear happened exactly as I describe it. Some of it is how I imagine things might have gone—if the timing had been different, if I'd pushed harder, if the world worked the way I think it sometimes should.And one last thing before we start—this is Book One. There's more coming. A lot more. This is just the beginning. I hope you enjoy Bigfoot Country... as much as I did writing it. Part One is called The Hollow, and it begins in September of 1984. I was eleven years old, just a few months shy of twelve, and my family had just moved to a place called Lyerly, Georgia. Population next to nothing. No stoplight. One gas station. The kind of town where everybody knew everybody's business before you even finished doing it. We moved into an old house at the end of a dirt road—a house that looked like something had crawled there to die. White paint gone gray. Porch sagging in the middle. Eighty acres of woods stretching out behind it like a wall. My father, Jerry Patterson, was a drinker. A man whose silence usually meant a storm was building. My mother, Jean, was small but fierce in the ways that mattered—even if she couldn't fix the things that were broken in our family. She stayed. She always stayed. The woods became my escape. I spent those early weeks mapping the land, building forts out of fallen branches and rotting tarps, disappearing into the trees whenever the tension at home got too thick. I learned every trail, every landmark, every corner of that property. All except one. There was a section way back at the far edge, where our land butted up against the national forest, that I couldn't bring myself to enter. Every time I got close, something pushed me back. A wrongness I couldn't name. A feeling like walking into a cold spot in a warm room.One day in late October, I decided I'd had enough of being scared. I was almost twelve years old. Too old for this. So I grabbed my BB gun and headed out to prove to myself there was nothing back there worth fearing. I was wrong. What I found was a clearing with a depression in the ground where something big had been bedding down. The smell hit me first—wet dog mixed with a dumpster behind a butcher shop. And then the sounds. Heavy footsteps. Bipedal. Something walking on two legs that weighed more than any man. Huffing. Growling. Sounds that rose and fell in patterns that almost seemed like language. It charged at me through the underbrush, stopped maybe twenty feet away, and just... breathed. Watched. Decided. It let me go.I ran home faster than I'd ever run in my life. And I never told a soul.But that wasn't the only strangeness that followed us to that house. At night, I started hearing voices in the walls—whispery, indistinct, speaking in languages I couldn't understand. A dark figure began appearing at the foot of my bed, a void shaped like a man, watching me while I lay frozen and unable to scream. Scratching moved through the walls like something was circling me. Three heavy knocks shook my bedroom door one night, and when I opened it, no one was there—but downstairs, a fire was burning in a fireplace we never used, in a chimney my father said was blocked.Something was in that house. Something that had been there before us and didn't want us there. And then, in January, everything changed. My mother got sick. Skin Cancer. The doctors gave her six months, maybe a year. And my father—the man who was supposed to hold us together—disappeared. Shacked up with some woman in another town, drowning himself in pills and booze while his wife was dying and his son was alone. I ended up staying with my best friend Brad Henderson's family. They took me in without question, gave me a bed and a place at their table. And every weekend, someone drove me to Atlanta so I could watch my mother fade away in a hospital room. She lost her hair. Lost her weight. Lost everything except her will to fight.Against all odds, she won. Almost a year to the day after her diagnosis, the doctors told us her cancer was in remission. She came home for Christmas, weighing maybe eighty pounds, wrapped in a scarf my friend's mother had knitted for her. And the first thing she did was look at my father's empty chair and say the words I'd been waiting to hear my whole life. We're leaving. But leaving wasn't simple. My father showed up one last time, took my mother's pain medication right out of the medicine cabinet, and vanished. He started selling those pills around town—the same town that had taken up a collection to help us, the same community that had rallied around my dying mother while he was nowhere to be found People got angry. The wrong kind of people. One night in January, I woke up to the sound of voices and vehicles in the yard. I looked out my window and saw twenty figures in white robes standing around a burning cross. The Klan had come to our house. Not because of us—because of him. Because of the shame he'd brought on his family in a place that took such things seriously.We left Lyerly two weeks later. My mother divorced my father, took back her maiden name, and we started over in a tiny apartment in Summerville. Two bedrooms. Thin walls. Stained carpet. But it was ours. And it was safe. I got a job at Dairy Queen. Went to school. Helped my mother however I could. The nightmares followed me—the dark figure, the dreams of something chasing me through endless woods—but I buried it all. Pushed it down. Told myself it didn't matter anymore.But I never forgot what I heard in those woods. Never forgot that huffing, that growling, those footsteps too heavy to be human. I knew it was real. I knew it was out there. And someday, I was going to find it again.But first, I had to grow up. First, I had to survive. That's Part One of Bigfoot Country.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/sasquatch-odyssey--4839697/support.

Welcome to this episode of HALO Talks, where host Pete Moore sits down with Bryce Berry, a New York native whose career led him from Westchester County to the mountains of Salt Lake City, and eventually to building a powerhouse presence in the Gold's Gym franchise network. Bryce shares his entrepreneurial path, starting with the unexpected lessons learned from running Dairy Queen stores, before moving into the health club industry and launching some of the largest and most successful Gold's Gym locations in Colorado, Wyoming, and Washington. From the intricacies of site selection and gym operations to adapting to changing market dynamics and member expectations, Bryce reveals how he's created "rainmaker" clubs by offering standout amenities like expansive weightlifting and cardio areas, basketball courts, racquetball, pickleball, and innovative tanning and recovery services. He digs into the evolving branding landscape of fitness franchises, the role of pricing strategy, and why the Gold's Gym name still carries significant weight in local communities. Listen now to hear Bryce's insights on building thriving gyms, the impact of market trends on business decisions, and how his commitment to quality and member experience is shaping the future of fitness for the next generation of club-goers. Key themes discussed Gold's Gym franchise growth and operations. Site selection strategies for gym locations. Importance of brand recognition in fitness industry. Pricing models and market positioning for gyms. Community amenities: Basketball, pickleball, saunas, recovery. Private equity partnerships and business structure. Adapting gym facilities to trends in strength and cardio equipment. A Few Key Takeaways:  1.Strategic Growth and Site Selection: Bryce talks about his career path from Westchester County to building a network of Gold's Gyms, detailing how he strategically drew a 300-mile radius around his home and used his knowledge from previous business ventures (like a book bindery) to select prime gym locations. His hands-on, boots-on-the-ground approach to site selection set the foundation for successful club launches. 2. Gold's Gym Brand Equity: Bryce highlights the enduring power of the Gold's Gym brand. Despite new competitors and rebranded gyms popping up (such as VASA, EoS, and Fitness Connection), he argues that Gold's still has strong recognition and credibility with consumers. People know Gold's Gym, which translates into excitement, loyalty, and ongoing business success. 3. Mid-Range Pricing Wins: Berry defends the decision to position his clubs in the mid-price range, emphasizing that this "middle" is where the majority of the market is. Instead of chasing ultra-low-cost volume or high-end exclusivity, his strategy is to deliver great value for a reasonable price, which has continually proven successful in the communities he serves. 4. Amenity-Rich, Community-Focused Clubs: The Gold's Gym facilities in Colorado, Wyoming, and Washington are designed as urban or suburban "country clubs" with oversized footprints (some over 50,000 sq ft). Bryce invests heavily in amenities like basketball courts, racquetball, pickleball nights, dry saunas, and top-of-the-line equipment to create a vibrant community feel and cater to a broad clientele. 5. Innovation and Adaptation for Younger Members: Bryce discusses a current trend he's seeing with younger members (especially ages 18–40) favoring strength and cardio equipment, recovery spaces, and high-quality gear such as the Matrix treadmill. He's focused on adapting his clubs to these preferences, particularly with recovery rooms, oversized saunas, and best-in-class equipment—which has helped him attract and retain this growing demographic. Resources:  Gold's Gym: https://www.goldsgym.com  Integrity Square: https://www.integritysq.com Prospect Wizard: https://www.theprospectwizard.com Promotion Vault: https://www.promotionvault.com HigherDose: https://www.higherdose.com

Travis teams up with his producer Eric to react to a wild news story about two Dairy Queen franchise owners in Long Island who got hit with a $6 million lawsuit over a technical payroll violation. Using their situation as a springboard, Travis unpacks the often invisible risks of small business ownership, the realities of razor-thin margins, and why the legal and regulatory environment can feel stacked against entrepreneurs. On this episode we talk about: The Dairy Queen “DQ sisters” case—how paying employees every two weeks instead of weekly triggered a multi‑million‑dollar lawsuit under an old New York pay‑frequency law. Why lawyers, not workers or owners, often walk away with the biggest payday from these kinds of class actions. The myth that small business and franchise owners are “rolling in cash” versus the reality of 12–16% profit margins and massive fixed costs. How minimum wage pressures, government regulations, permits, and franchise fees compound the financial strain on brick‑and‑mortar businesses. Why demanding higher pay without building new skills can backfire as automation and robotics become more attractive than hiring entry‑level labor. Top 3 Takeaways Small business owners—especially franchise operators—often operate on thin margins and can be wiped out by unexpected legal or regulatory hits, even when they're acting in good faith. Many “worker protection” lawsuits end up benefiting attorneys far more than employees, while leaving owners financially devastated and sometimes out of business. The most reliable way to increase your income is not to rely on lawsuits or mandated wage hikes, but to build valuable skills, increase your earning power, and keep extra cash reserves for the inevitable surprises of business and life. Notable Quotes "People think business owners are taking their workers to the cleaners, but a lot of them are barely keeping the lights on." "You might feel like you're suing ‘McDonald's,' but in reality you're wrecking the local franchisee who leveraged their house to open that one store." "We need a skill‑building mindset, not a ‘demand more money for the same work' mindset, or we'll just price ourselves right into being replaced by robots." ✖️✖️✖️✖️

In this episode, we talk with Marsail and Tony Abuaita just after they completed two weeks of Fibrenew training in Calgary. They're the new owners of Fibrenew Irving, Texas, bringing together Marsail's artistic eye and Tony's business experience. At the time of this recording, Marsail was entering her final semester at Texas State University, studying scenic painting. She's used to turning design ideas into large-scale theatre sets, so when she discovered Fibrenew, it felt like a natural extension of what she already loves: taking a vision and making it real. Color, texture, and detail all matter to her—if her name is on the work, it has to be something she's proud of. Tony has built and run multiple businesses since immigrating to the U.S. in 1990, including convenience stores, Dairy Queen franchises, and a travel agency focused on religious group tours. After talking with other Fibrenew franchisees, he saw an opportunity for a flexible, scalable business that his daughter could own and grow. A turning point for Marsail was her first ride-along, restoring a small burn in a Porsche seat. The customer's reaction reminded her of seeing an audience respond to a finished stage production—it proved that this work has real emotional impact. Now, Marsail is preparing to juggle her final semester with planning her new business, aiming to “take Irving by storm” once she graduates. With Tony supporting her on the operations and admin side, they see Fibrenew as both a business opportunity and a way to grow together as a family.For more info on Fibrenew Franchising, visit www.fibrenew.com/franchising

Found Dead in a Dairy Queen Bathroom… What Vinney Saw on the Other Side.

Ped & Burk kick off the episode with a discussion of what they think the best month is. The boys ponder their 40th birthdays. Where has the time gone? Parking at a gas station will reveal a person's entire character. Don't sleep on Dairy Queen burgers. We list our perfect Thanksgiving plates, and then, in some foreshadowing, it's Burk's perfect song. For the MEAT, Mm!, it's a massive topic we've been holding onto: Our all-time top ten movies! A nearly impossible task! We get country to end the show. Hut Hut! Love y'all.

Dave and Chuck the Freak talk about Princess Day, Dairy Queen rival files for bankruptcy, guy who broke his dong sent a pic, wife got husband birthday card that she didn’t read, potato bed hack, old lady leaving church ignored cop directing traffic and hit him with car, shots fired during jewelry store robbery, cop saved from his burning patrol car, loud music to get homeless to leave abandoned grocery store, reporter confronts restaurant about failed inspection, taking things from hotel rooms, doctor fixes cameraman’s tremors, Christmas-scented Dude Wipes, player banned for life from NCAA for betting scandal, most hated NFL teams, Lions’ sticky note guy, new sexual assault charges for Diddy, Tom Cruise gets award, Timothee Chalamet says Adam Sandler deserves Oscar, Kathy Hilton’s house robbed, celebs that came from nothing, man’s reaction to being chased by a goat, cop seen driving with his gun on top of car, Heigh Supremacist, flight delayed because guy smoked weed in bathroom, flight delayed after passenger smuggled meat cleaver through security, woman bough husband a look-a-like sex doll, kid stole car and drove home without his mom, guy approached pack of wolves at Yellowstone, photographer rented house on Airbnb and had $35k worth of stuff stolen, woman hears unexplained explosion noises, KFC Thanksgiving chicken dinner with gravy flight, Little Caesars contactless self checkout, and more!

Dave and Chuck the Freak talk about Princess Day, Dairy Queen rival files for bankruptcy, guy who broke his dong sent a pic, wife got husband birthday card that she didn't read, potato bed hack, old lady leaving church ignored cop directing traffic and hit him with car, shots fired during jewelry store robbery, cop saved from his burning patrol car, loud music to get homeless to leave abandoned grocery store, reporter confronts restaurant about failed inspection, taking things from hotel rooms, doctor fixes cameraman's tremors, Christmas-scented Dude Wipes, player banned for life from NCAA for betting scandal, most hated NFL teams, Lions' sticky note guy, new sexual assault charges for Diddy, Tom Cruise gets award, Timothee Chalamet says Adam Sandler deserves Oscar, Kathy Hilton's house robbed, celebs that came from nothing, man's reaction to being chased by a goat, cop seen driving with his gun on top of car, Heigh Supremacist, flight delayed because guy smoked weed in bathroom, flight delayed after passenger smuggled meat cleaver through security, woman bough husband a look-a-like sex doll, kid stole car and drove home without his mom, guy approached pack of wolves at Yellowstone, photographer rented house on Airbnb and had $35k worth of stuff stolen, woman hears unexplained explosion noises, KFC Thanksgiving chicken dinner with gravy flight, Little Caesars contactless self checkout, and more!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

A Texas man stops a Dairy Queen robbery with a chair, Michael Berry reflects on the Aggie Bonfire tragedy, and a University of Houston fraternity faces shutdown after hazing. Plus, wild listener stories on initiation rituals.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Send us a textWhen two sisters who own a Dairy Queen are on the receiving end of a pay violation lawsuit, they are stunned. They've worked hard to create a “second chances” work environment and always paid their employees on time - even giving employees advances when they need it. They quickly learned that the lawsuit wasn't for neglecting to pay their employees, but rather the frequency at which they paid them.Today's story emphasizes the importance of knowing state laws to avoid a sneaky lawsuit. Good intentions don't replace good systems, and a system failure can result in an expensive payout. Support the showOur new book...The Ultimate Guide to HR: Checklists Edition is now AVAILABLE! Go to UltimateGuidetoHR.com to Get HR Right: and Avoid Costly Mistakes. Certified and approved for 3 SHRM Recertification Credits.Join the HR Team of One Community on Facebook or visit TeamAtHRstories.com and sign up for emails so you can be the first to know about new things we have coming up.You can also follow us on Instagram and TikTok at @HRstoriesPodcast Don't forget to rate our podcast, it really helps other people find it!Do you have a situation or topic you'd like the team to discuss? Are you interested in having Chuck or John talk to your team or Emcee your event? You can reach the Team at Email@TeamAtHRStories.com for suggestions and inquiries.The viewpoints expressed by the characters in the stories are not necessarily that of The Team at HR Stories. The stories are shared to present various, real-world scenarios and share how they were handled by policy and, at times, law. Chuck and John are not lawyers and always recommend working with an employment lawyer to address concerns.

Dave, now with the Children's Miracle Network, was a "radio guy" himself and we found out this was his first time back on-air since he said goodbye to his listeners... What a treat. And, literally, there were treats... We were at Dairy Queen! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Once again we get to the almost end of a season of AHS and we begin to slowly unravel. But what else do you expect from us at this point?

Jack Prine shares intimate stories about his legendary father John Prine, discusses the new "You Got Gold" movie, the history and state of "Oh Boy Records" and reveals intentions for unreleased recordings from the family archives. Check out screenings of "You Got Gold - A Celebration of John Prine" here Topics Include: Jack Prine discusses "You Got Gold" film celebrating his father John Prine's legacy Film originated through family friend connection at Radical Media, directed by Michael John Warren Documentary captures 2022 Ryman concert series benefiting the Hello In There Foundation Foundation started after John's death in April 2020, helping family navigate grief Jack reflects on balancing family's personal grief with fans' collective loss Film features collaborators like Bonnie Raitt, Lucinda Williams sharing stories and performances Many people know John Prine's songs without realizing he wrote them Movie bridges generations from Dwight Yoakam to Tyler Childers and Jason Isbell Tyler Childers shares quirky story about John keeping Dairy Queen coupon in wallet Jack's legal name is John Patrick Prine; uses Jack to separate identity Growing up in Nashville, didn't have special musicians' kids friend group Jack joined family business at Oh Boy Records after college, learning the ropes Worked in warehouse initially, understanding physical product and distribution fundamentals Oh Boy Records started in 1984 as fiercely independent label maintaining creative control Archives contain decades of unreleased recordings being carefully curated for future releases Lost Dogs deluxe edition recently released with unheard track "Hey, Aw, Nothing" John Prine disliked his debut album cover showing him on hay bale John was technologically simple, kept flip phone until he died, browsed cars on eBay 80th birthday celebration planned for October, possibly in Chicago rather than Nashville Jack's lessons from father: live in the moment and always give to others Extended and High resolution version of this podcast is available at: www.Patreon.com/VinylGuide Apple: https://tinyurl.com/tvg-ios Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/tvg-spot Amazon Music: https://tinyurl.com/tvg-amazon Support the show at Patreon.com/VinylGuide

As a host, I've met hundreds of shop owners, but every once in a while, I meet someone whose story stops me in my tracks. Ty Haguewood, General Manager and CFO of Manufacturing Technologies, Inc. (MTI) and Stone Mather Designs (SMD), is one of those people. Ty didn't grow up in manufacturing—he was a finance professional who took a random tour of a machine shop six years ago and walked out forever changed. What started as curiosity became a calling. Today, Ty helps lead two growing businesses north of Albuquerque, New Mexico—one serving precision aerospace customers and the other crafting custom lighting for major franchises like Planet Fitness and Dairy Queen. In our conversation, Ty shares how he built his career from the ground up, starting in shipping and ordering tools to eventually running operations and financials for both companies. We talk about leadership, retention, culture, and the power of humility and self-awareness in business. Ty's perspective on intentional leadership, work-life balance, and developing people is something every manufacturing leader can learn from. This isn't just a story about machining—it's about purpose, people, and personal transformation. Ty's passion and discipline prove that excellence isn't something you inherit. It's something you choose, build, and refine every day. You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in... (0:00) Why Ty Haguewood represents passion and excellence in machining (3:02) You'll get honesty and transparency when you work with Phoenix Heat Treating (4:09) Learn more about Manufacturing Technologies Inc. and Stone Mather Designs (9:16) Ty's unique background and what led him to MTI and SMD (16:25) Retaining talent: Creating a culture of humanity and intentional leadership (19:35) Implementing quarterly reviews and bonuses tied to performance metrics (20:53) The impact of shifting to four 10-hour workdays on morale and productivity (22:15) Guarding culture through selective hiring and investing in loyal employees (23:50) Balancing formal systems with organic leadership (25:00) Lessons learned from overcomplicating processes and simplifying systems (27:46) The "data or people" revelation that changed MTI's approach (29:47) Ty's hiring philosophy: Culture over credentials (34:10) Scaling leadership by developing leaders beneath you (35:31) Ty's favorite success story—a McDonald's employee turned machinist (38:04) Workholding Wisdom with SMW Autoblok: Setup Reduction (48:10) Paul's KFC story and discussion on unconventional manufacturing talent (50:50) Training at MTI: shadowing, job progression, and learning by doing (55:33) Standardization, tooling, and why transparency boosts performance (59:13) Balancing data and humanity in leadership (1:01:38) Ty's challenge to leaders: Take the time to become someone worth following (1:07:04) Facing failure, learning from hardship, and rebuilding with integrity (1:09:12) Company-level challenges: losing half the staff and rebuilding stronger (1:10:53) Growth, transparency, and leadership capacity limits (1:11:52) Why authentic leadership is manufacturing's future (1:17:05) Why you should use Hire MFG Leaders for your next hire Resources & People Mentioned You'll get honesty and transparency when you work with Phoenix Heat Treating Achieve setup reduction with SMW Autoblok workholding Why you should use Hire MFG Leaders for your next hire Connect with Ty Haguewood Connect on LinkedIn Manufacturing Technologies Inc. Stone Mather Designs Connect With Machine Shop Mastery The website LinkedIn YouTube Instagram Subscribe to Machine Shop Mastery on Apple, Spotify Audio Production and Show Notes by - PODCAST FAST TRACK

Before it was “110 Munson Ave” The site used to be addressed as 1504 E. Front Street in Traverse City. Back then it was part of the old fast food strip east of downtown. At some point in the early 1990s, that section was renumbered/reassigned and the same building became 110 Munson Ave (Munson Ave and E. Front basically merge/split in that corridor).  So: same physical spot, two different street numbers over time. The business history, oldest to newest Arthur Treacher's Fish & Chips (late 1970s / very early 1980s) One of the classic British-style fried fish & chips chains. The Traverse City location was listed at 1504 E. Front St., which is the same building that later became 110 Munson Ave.  Arthur Treacher's expanded hard in the ‘70s/early ‘80s and then started fading nationally in the mid-'80s. The Traverse City shop was part of that early wave.  Burger Square (≈1981–1984) After Arthur Treacher's left, the spot became Burger Square around 1981. Locals describe Burger Square as a slider/burger place, kind of White Castle-ish. It only lasted a few years, into the mid-1980s.  Dairy Queen (mid-1980s to early 1990s) After Burger Square, the same building turned into a Dairy Queen. Sources say that Dairy Queen ran there through the late '80s and very early '90s, then closed/relocated.  This is also the point where the address shifts: that old DQ at 1504 E. Front is later referred to as 110 Munson Ave.  Schlotzsky's Deli (early 1990s) In the early '90s, after Dairy Queen, the building became a Schlotzsky's Deli (the Austin-style sandwich chain). That didn't last super long; by the mid/late '90s it had flipped again.  Luigi's Pizzeria & Café (mid/late 1990s into 2000s) Next up was Luigi's Pizzeria & Café, doing pizzas, pasta, sandwiches. Luigi's shows up in business directories at 110 Munson Ave and is tied to the Gutowski family locally. One listing says Luigi's (at that address) dates back to the 2000s and had a handful of employees.  A note from the owners suggests this Munson Ave location eventually closed around the late 2000s/very early 2010s.  Mancino's Pizza & Grinders (late 1990s / 2000s era overlap) The same family (Valentine “Billy” and Linda Gutowski) also operated Mancino's Pizza & Grinders in Traverse City. Mancino's is described as their independent, mom-and-pop pizza/grinder shops that started in the area in the 1990s and expanded to multiple Traverse City locations.  Mancino's is specifically listed at 110 Munson Ave in older directories, and some maps still show “Mancino's Pizza & Grinders” or “Gutowski Restaurants” tied to that address even after it was gone.  Over time, the Gutowskis rebranded/relocated the Mancino's/“bread nuggets” operation to other Traverse City spots (Chum's Corner, West Bayshore, etc.), and the Munson Ave shop closed.  That'sa Pizza (2010s–2020) After Mancino's/Luigi's, the building housed That'sa Pizza, a long-running Traverse City pizza brand that traces back to 1981.  That'sa Pizza ran takeout/delivery from 110 Munson Ave through the 2010s. By early 2021 the Munson Ave location had shut down; That'sa Pizza continues today at other Traverse City locations (Long Lake Rd, Hammond Rd, Acme/Williamsburg), but not at 110 Munson.  Jersey Mike's Subs (2021–present) In 2021, a Jersey Mike's Subs franchise moved in. Local business news in February/March 2021 said Jersey Mike's would open in the “former That'sa Pizza space” at 110 Munson Ave, targeting a late-March grand opening.  Jersey Mike's is still the current tenant, and their official store listing shows the address as 110 Munson Ave, Traverse City, MI 49686, phone (231) 421-1379, open daily.  Quick summary timeline Late '70s / early '80s: Arthur Treacher's Fish & Chips

Before it was “110 Munson Ave” The site used to be addressed as 1504 E. Front Street in Traverse City. Back then it was part of the old fast food strip east of downtown. At some point in the early 1990s, that section was renumbered/reassigned and the same building became 110 Munson Ave (Munson Ave and E. Front basically merge/split in that corridor).  So: same physical spot, two different street numbers over time. The business history, oldest to newest Arthur Treacher's Fish & Chips (late 1970s / very early 1980s) One of the classic British-style fried fish & chips chains. The Traverse City location was listed at 1504 E. Front St., which is the same building that later became 110 Munson Ave.  Arthur Treacher's expanded hard in the ‘70s/early ‘80s and then started fading nationally in the mid-'80s. The Traverse City shop was part of that early wave.  Burger Square (≈1981–1984) After Arthur Treacher's left, the spot became Burger Square around 1981. Locals describe Burger Square as a slider/burger place, kind of White Castle-ish. It only lasted a few years, into the mid-1980s.  Dairy Queen (mid-1980s to early 1990s) After Burger Square, the same building turned into a Dairy Queen. Sources say that Dairy Queen ran there through the late '80s and very early '90s, then closed/relocated.  This is also the point where the address shifts: that old DQ at 1504 E. Front is later referred to as 110 Munson Ave.  Schlotzsky's Deli (early 1990s) In the early '90s, after Dairy Queen, the building became a Schlotzsky's Deli (the Austin-style sandwich chain). That didn't last super long; by the mid/late '90s it had flipped again.  Luigi's Pizzeria & Café (mid/late 1990s into 2000s) Next up was Luigi's Pizzeria & Café, doing pizzas, pasta, sandwiches. Luigi's shows up in business directories at 110 Munson Ave and is tied to the Gutowski family locally. One listing says Luigi's (at that address) dates back to the 2000s and had a handful of employees.  A note from the owners suggests this Munson Ave location eventually closed around the late 2000s/very early 2010s.  Mancino's Pizza & Grinders (late 1990s / 2000s era overlap) The same family (Valentine “Billy” and Linda Gutowski) also operated Mancino's Pizza & Grinders in Traverse City. Mancino's is described as their independent, mom-and-pop pizza/grinder shops that started in the area in the 1990s and expanded to multiple Traverse City locations.  Mancino's is specifically listed at 110 Munson Ave in older directories, and some maps still show “Mancino's Pizza & Grinders” or “Gutowski Restaurants” tied to that address even after it was gone.  Over time, the Gutowskis rebranded/relocated the Mancino's/“bread nuggets” operation to other Traverse City spots (Chum's Corner, West Bayshore, etc.), and the Munson Ave shop closed.  That'sa Pizza (2010s–2020) After Mancino's/Luigi's, the building housed That'sa Pizza, a long-running Traverse City pizza brand that traces back to 1981.  That'sa Pizza ran takeout/delivery from 110 Munson Ave through the 2010s. By early 2021 the Munson Ave location had shut down; That'sa Pizza continues today at other Traverse City locations (Long Lake Rd, Hammond Rd, Acme/Williamsburg), but not at 110 Munson.  Jersey Mike's Subs (2021–present) In 2021, a Jersey Mike's Subs franchise moved in. Local business news in February/March 2021 said Jersey Mike's would open in the “former That'sa Pizza space” at 110 Munson Ave, targeting a late-March grand opening.  Jersey Mike's is still the current tenant, and their official store listing shows the address as 110 Munson Ave, Traverse City, MI 49686, phone (231) 421-1379, open daily.  Quick summary timeline Late '70s / early '80s: Arthur Treacher's Fish & Chips

  Once we were young. Now, we're old. Okay, older. Being older is good. Often, it's great! She was always gorgeous. I was always smitten. Madly in love. The love affair began on Wednesday night, July 2, 1975. During a church camp meeting in Oklahoma. I asked her out on a date following church services that night. She said yes. That orange car in the picture was our chariot. We drove around a bit. Talked a lot. Probably went to a Dairy Queen for soft drinks. I can't remember. Eventually, I kissed her. She kissed me back. And it was all so easy. The conversation. The being together. The kissing. But I'm ahead of myself. First, there was her reputation. And my respect for her. She was known for being determined to remain faithful to her convictions. We shared faith. The Faith. She was smart, dedicated, disciplined, and intentional. The oldest of six kids. It was evident. It was among the top reasons I asked her out. She was beautiful, but that was bonus content. ;) I hadn't been in love like this before. Ever. This was different, and I knew it from the very first date. Becoming a Christian was my best decision. Falling in love with her was my second best. She's only ever taken a backseat to God. Eighteen-year-old me would have denied ever being able to fall harder for her. But he'd have been wrong. Did I always behave like it? Nope. To my shame. But that was primarily due to my immaturity and selfishness. Two problems I've experienced and that I often see in the lives of other men, too. I'm not saying it's a uniquely male weakness, but I'm a guy and it was mine. She's not perfect. But she's pretty ideal for me. I'm not perfect. But I'm pretty ideal for her. It's our story. My story. But let's not make this entirely about me, or her, or us. Two ideas have been swirling in my head for as long as I can remember. One, my daily, if not hourly, fascination with her. True confession: I think of her every waking hour. And I always have. Sounds like an obsession, huh? Well, it likely is. But in a good way. It's why many times a day I approach her, seemingly out of the blue (I'm sure that's what she thinks), and hug her because I've been thinking of her a lot before I literally have to hug it out. I'm high-maintenance like that. Two, sadness that too many marriages fail because of selfishness and pride. Mostly, I think of my own selfishness and pride because I know those are ingredients for failure for each of us. Read your New Testament, and you'll see it more clearly — especially in yourself. This is about us - all of us. Yes, it's about those of us who are married. And it's about those of us who aren't. Because love, fascination, selfishness, and pride are both universal and individual. Masculinity seemed all but gone until we got a new President in America. The shift back toward things our country once cherished and away from the idiocy that overtook us starting in 2009 or so has given many of us hope that men can get back to being men and women can return to their glorified place of being women. Love, pride (not the selfish kind, but the honorable kind), commitment, honor, loyalty, and merit. Those were once givens in our society. They eroded in the past couple of decades because we allowed ourselves to be manipulated away from the things we knew to be true and correct. Now, we're seeing how bitter, hateful, and outraged the opponents to truth and right can be. But love and right are worth standing up for, and idiocy deserves to be fought vigorously. Without shame or embarrassment. I make no apologies for being a Christian. I make no apologies for being married to the same woman for almost 47 years. I make no apologies for confessing that we were both virgins when we married. I make no apologies that - because of my faith - I choose not to drink alcohol, gamble, or be promiscuous. I don't care that others have made fun of my stance against...

Our Heroes somehow got unstuck from the floor and escaped the workers only to lament the disaster of not getting the food but what surprise does Michael have in store for everyone? You don't want to miss it, unless you're a Manor ISD student then DO NOT ENTER! Support us directly https://www.patreon.com/100percenteat where you can join the discord with other 100 Percenters, stay up to date on everything, and get The Michael, Jordan Podcast every Friday. Follow us on IG & Twitter: @100percenteat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Happy Wednesday! Man is back from his time off. We open the show with how Man is still blind from his eye doctor appointment and seeing Bob Costas and Michael Jordan on NBA on NBC has the guys excited. Trick or Treat isn't on Halloween, and the guys don't like that. We do Leather Jacket time with 10TV's Nicole Shearin. We do some Saved by the Bell trivia and there are new holiday Blizzard flavors coming to Dairy Queen. We're on the lookout for escaped Monkeys. The NCAA isn't allowing college athletes to bet on sports just yet. And we do Name Dropping with Jeff Rimer.

Our Heroes know that DQ is more than just ice cream, it's also chicken strips and sticky floors and no ice and not having the chicken strips. Wait what? Can we avoid disaster and maybe avoid this DQ FOREVER? Eric is pulling his hair out over this one, too bad he wasn't wearing a hat. Can I be in the photo too? Sponsored by HelloFresh. Thanks HelloFresh! Get 10 FREE meals and a free breakfast for life at HelloFresh.com/PERCENT10FM Grab a hoodie and a shirt because its cool out now? https://100percenteat.store Also grab an autograph from Our Heroes https://streamily.com/100-percent-eat Support us directly https://www.patreon.com/100percenteat where you can join the discord with other 100 Percenters, stay up to date on everything, and get The Michael, Jordan Podcast every Friday. Follow us on IG & Twitter: @100percenteat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Cops brought an end to one man's violence by serving him Dairy Queen, and celebrities are up in arms about a gas station dinosaur. Delivery people are stealing merch left and right, and Americans are feeling really good about marijuana. Nasa is planning to build livable quarters on the moon with material already found up there. What would you do if a workmate hugged you every time they see you? Heidi Klum has boob hair, and proud of it, and a gorilla slammed into a glass viewing wall and cracked it. What TV show never had a bad season, and young and old people are now renting homes together. I give you the latest on Halloween this season, and you'll be pleasantly surprised how a former stripper is now making a living. Hey, we all have to make a living some way! Hop aboard.

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The Two Bobs episode 293 for Monday, October 20, 2025: What are The Bobs drinking? Rob enjoyed a Pumpkin Patch Ale from Rogue. https://untp.beer/363e295a84 Robert had an Apple Crumble Brown Ale from Southern Tier. https://untp.beer/b0zGx Follow us on Untapped at @RobFromTTB and @lowercaserobert or you'll get a drive-by cheeseburgering. This week's CRAZY NEWS negotiated a ceasefire between Albania Pangea. You're welcome. Florida Man® punched his father for kicking his hooker out of the house. https://coralspringstalk.com/coral-springs-domestic-violence-arrest-father-assault-57215 Kim Kardashian just released a line of pubic hair thongs. https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2025/10/15/kim-kardashian-skims-faux-hair-thongs/86703768007/ Florida Man® was arrested for committing a drive-by cheeseburging. https://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/cheeseburger-in-paradise-287013 A Dairy Queen blizzard helped end an armed standoff in Washington. https://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/blizzard/blizzard-standoff-745390 Therapists recommend treating people like shit if you're having a bad day. https://theonion.com/therapists-recommend-treating-people-like-shit-if-you-r-1829600886/

What starts with a debate about Lifesavers candy—and the safety feature of the hole in the middle—quickly devolves into a hilarious ramble that proves why The Almost Amazing Podcast has "lost the plot!"

Joe gives you two news headlines - can you guess which one happened in the great state of Florida?

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CTL Script/ Top Stories of October 10th Publish Date: October 10th   Pre-Roll: From the Ingles Studio Welcome to the Award-Winning Cherokee Tribune Ledger Podcast  Today is Friday, October 10th and Happy Birthday to Van Halen I’m Peyton Spurlock and here are the stories Cherokee is talking about, presented by Times Journal Work to start this month on Canton Creek pedestrian bridge Cherokee County leaders OK $5M contract for CATS building Cherokee County adopts $438 million budget for 2026 Plus, Leah McGrath from Ingles Markets on budgeting We’ll have all this and more coming up on the Cherokee Tribune-Ledger Podcast, and if you’re looking for Community news, we encourage you to listen and subscribe!  Commercial: Ingles Markets 7 STORY 1: Work to start this month on Canton Creek pedestrian bridge Big changes are coming to the Sunnyside community this month, starting with a new pedestrian bridge over Canton Creek. The city says the project will make the area safer for its many walkers and cyclists—something that’s been a long time coming. Thanks to a $2.2 million grant from the Governor’s Office of Planning and Budget, funded by the American Rescue Plan, Canton can finally kick off improvements in this busy corridor along Hickory Flat Highway and Marietta Road. The new bridge? A 160-foot weathering steel beauty, built just for pedestrians. No cars, no chaos—just a safe, scenic crossing. Meanwhile, the old bridge will stay open for vehicles until a replacement is built. Construction starts soon, and the city’s already acquired nearby properties to make way for the upgrades. Sunnyside’s future? Looking bright. STORY 2: Cherokee County leaders OK $5M contract for CATS building Cherokee County is moving forward with a long-awaited upgrade for its transit system. On Oct. 7, commissioners approved a $5.1 million contract with Place Services, Inc. to build the new Cherokee Area Transit Service (CATS) headquarters at Univeter and Pinecrest roads. The new facility? It’s a big deal—offices, dispatch, a driver training room, parking for 50 buses, and even a propane fueling station. The current space is bursting at the seams, so this project is designed to handle CATS’ needs for the next 20 years. Construction starts soon and should wrap up in about a year. Most of the funding—80%—comes from a Federal Transit Administration grant, with the rest covered by local SPLOST funds. This is phase two of the project. Phase one, which included site prep and stormwater work, wrapped up in September. STORY 3: Cherokee County adopts $438 million budget for 2026 Cherokee County just locked in its 2026 budget—$438.6 million. Sounds massive, right? But according to Chairman Harry Johnston, it’s as lean as it gets. Here is Cherokee County Commission Chair Harry Johnston on the budget. CHAIRMAN HARRY JOHNSTON CLIP. The only big addition? A $1.4 million incentive program for sheriff’s deputies to reward education and certifications—an effort to keep them long-term. Public safety eats up over half the general fund, with $73.6 million going to the sheriff’s office alone. Other highlights? $59.3 million for fire services, $9.8 million for parks, and $2.9 million for senior services. SPLOST funds will cover big projects like courthouse expansion, road improvements, and even an airport runway extension. And here’s the kicker: no tax hikes. For the full 511-page breakdown, check out cherokeecountyga.gov. We have opportunities for sponsors to get great engagement on these shows. Call 770.874.3200 for more info.    We’ll be right back. Break: INGLES 7 STORY 4: Canton council to vote on contract to build new park  Canton’s South Canton Park is one step closer to reality, with city leaders set to vote on a construction contract Oct. 16. The bids are in—eight of them, ranging from $7.6 million to over $12 million—and, as Mayor Bill Grant put it, “It’s state of the art... and not cheap.” The park, planned for 2939 Marietta Highway (near Dairy Queen), will be packed with features: two playgrounds (one for little ones, one for bigger kids), dog parks with splash pads, a boardwalk, walking trails, a small amphitheater, and even a “listen and chill lawn.” Food trucks? Yep, there’s space for those too. The city snagged a $2.2 million state grant to help fund the project, with the rest coming from SPLOST and impact fees. Residents weighed in on the design last spring, and while the original concept included a zipline, that’s been scrapped. Once the contract’s signed, the city will finalize the timeline. Stay tuned—this park’s going to be a game-changer. STORY 5: Cherokee County Football Power Rankings - Week 9  The Cherokee County football power rankings are heating up as we head into Week 9. Here’s where things stand: River Ridge (6-1, 3-1)The Knights came off their bye week swinging, shutting out Riverwood 35-0. Camden Cox? A beast—102 rushing yards and a TD on just 11 carries. Add in turnovers from Sam Vincent (INT) and Harris Deriso (forced fumble), and this team looks sharp. They host Sprayberry this week in what could be a region-deciding showdown. Sequoyah (6-1, 3-1)No Rajecki? No problem. The Chiefs crushed Lassiter 32-0, with QB Kolby Martin throwing for 259 yards and 3 TDs. Brooks Darling and Jack Ripley stepped up big. They face Woodstock next, a team they’ve beaten four straight times. Woodstock (5-2, 3-1)The Wolverines barely escaped Pope, winning 20-14 behind QB Graham Burmeister, who’s been lights out all season (1,420 yards, 15 TDs). They’ll need him at his best against Sequoyah this week. Creekview (3-4, 3-1)Don’t sleep on the Grizzlies. They nearly upset Sprayberry in OT last week and have clawed their way back after an 0-3 start. With Pope up next, they’re poised to stay in the playoff hunt. Etowah (3-4, 1-2)The Eagles fell to North Paulding but showed flashes, especially QB Zeke Douglass (91 rushing yards) and WR Walker Hughes (118 receiving yards). They’ll look to rebound against Wheeler. Cherokee (1-6, 0-3)It’s been a tough season for the Warriors, but Brandon Hamilton continues to shine, rushing past 1,000 yards on the year. With Walton and North Cobb looming, the road ahead doesn’t get any easier. And now here is Leah McGrath from Ingles Markets on budgeting Commercial: We’ll have closing comments after this.   COMMERCIAL: Ingles Markets 7   SIGN OFF –   Thanks again for hanging out with us on today’s Cherokee Tribune Ledger Podcast. If you enjoy these shows, we encourage you to check out our other offerings, like the Cherokee Tribune Ledger Podcast, the Marietta Daily Journal, or the Community Podcast for Rockdale Newton and Morgan Counties. Read more about all our stories and get other great content at www.tribuneledgernews.com Did you know over 50% of Americans listen to podcasts weekly? Giving you important news about our community and telling great stories are what we do. Make sure you join us for our next episode and be sure to share this podcast on social media with your friends and family. Add us to your Alexa Flash Briefing or your Google Home Briefing and be sure to like, follow, and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Produced by the BG Podcast Network Show Sponsors: www.ingles-markets.com See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It's here! The finale of the 2025 Septemburger tournament pits Wendy's against Dairy Queen and Carl's Jr. against A&W. Who will make it to the finals, and more importantly: who will take home the ability to proclaim themselves the best burger chain of the 2025 Septemburger field? I'm joined once again by filmmaker Tyler Eaton to cover Dairy Queen, comedian and author Ali Gordon to chat Wendy's, one of my best friends Herbert Amaya to review A&W, and composer James McEnelly to eat Carl's Jr. They also humor me and once again embody the chains they're helping me review to trash talk one another. 2nd Round: Wendy's (#1 seed) Baconator vs. Dairy Queen (#5 seed) Loaded A1 Stackburger Carl's Jr. (#3 seed) Western Bacon Burger vs. A&W (#7 seed) BBQ Bacon Crunch Burger Finals: ??? vs. ???

The sisters owned a Dairy Queen and paid their employees every two weeks, but the law in NY required weekly paychecks - a law many people did not know about. Lawsuits by employees exposed the owners to $6 million in liability but they eventually settled for less. The law has also been changed. https://www.lehtoslaw.com

(00:00 - 4:46) It's Wednesday! We found out this morning that LBF likes to talk to her witch decorations before she leaves for work. Bob thinks it's a bit odd! (4:46 - 9:35) You think you could be married to an NFL Quarterback, you better have tough skin, after Bob saw some comments on Patriots QB Drake Maye wife and was shocked how insane some NFL fans can be. (9:35 - 15:46) You ever walk into a retail store, and you instantly think oh jeez not this guy working. Well Bob experienced this when at Dairy Queen with his family. His wife and daughter have beef with a worker at DQ just because he makes blizzards wrong. LBF has the same issue with a cashier at a certain store she won't mention. (15:46 - 21:53) Today's DM Disaster is from Gaby. She's been seeing a guy for about 3 months recently she snuck into his phone and changed her contact's name to have his last name, she claimed when you know you know! Now the guy hasn't spoken to her since. That's Gaby's DM Disaster! (21:53 - 26:01) Today's Supah Smaht player was Crystal from Pawtucket, R.I. Was she Supah Smaht! (26:01 - 35:02) Bob was seeking advice for a friend who recently ordered some skeletons for decorations. The company sent 3 of them when they only ordered one, now she's wondering what to do with the with the other 2. LBF says karma will come and get you. All this and more on the ROR Morning Show with Bob Bronson and LBF Podcast. Find more great podcasts at bPodStudios.com…The Place To Be For Podcast Discovery! Follow us on our socialsInstagram - @bobandlbfFacebook - The ROR Morning ShowSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Morgann Book lives up to every part of her last name. Over the last few years, she has become one of Canada's biggest book influencers, giving book recommendations and sharing her love for reading online. This year, she added a weekly podcast to her line up called Off the Shelf with Morgann Book. She chats about getting her start on TikTok, and what books currently have her attention. Plus, award-winning musician Debby Friday talks about what she was reading while making her latest album. Books discussed on this week's show include:Project Hail Mary by Andy WeirThe Hour of the Star by Clarice Lispector

Rodeo clowns. Radiohead. Room 105. Welcome to Lakeside, CA—population: weird. Host Billy Merritt welcomes ER doctor–turned–improviser Devlyn Corrigan, who takes us on a tour of his dusty hometown: Lakeside, California. What starts as a stroll down Main Street quickly gallops into full-blown rodeo madness, local teen drama, and a possibly haunted motel room. Then, the Podcast Town players transform this dusty slice of Americana into a fully improvised audio fever dream, featuring:

we unpack the Charlie Kirk assassination questions, sift media narratives vs. facts, confront the censorship creep dressed up as “hate speech”, and revisit the Epstein files as a litmus test for elite accountability. We also tackle geopolitical pressure points (including the Israel debate), analyze digital forensics around chats and “confessions,” reflect on memorial optics and power plays, and—most importantly—chart a path where faith becomes the compass for clearer thinking and better action. Where I've been, why I'm back. We open with a candid reset: how the mission blurred, why the mic went dark, and what brought it back. The answer is both personal and public—a resolve to tell the truth in a way your kids could replay someday and still find courage in. The assassination lens—questions that won't die quietly. We examine the lone-gunman storyline, angle-of-shot disputes, timelines, and the now-infamous chat fragments. Not to force conclusions—but to keep the questions precise, persistent, and public. Media narratives vs. receipts. Next, we pressure-test official statements, “fact checks,” and neatly tied bows. If an explanation demands your blind trust, we'll ask for the evidence—and show you where the holes still are. Free speech, relabeled. Then we move into the censorship fight: how “hate speech” framing is being used as a lever to silence inconvenient opinions, and what stress-tests (big and small) reveal about who holds the switch. Geopolitics, incentives, and the unmentionables. We engage the Israel debate and broader foreign-influence questions with sober skepticism and documented context—because real analysis follows incentives, not hashtags. Epstein as the honesty test. We revisit the files, the evasions, and the convenient amnesia. If leaders won't tell the truth about this, why trust them on anything harder? Forensics & ellipses. We decode the chat logs and digital “confessions,” highlight linguistic oddities, and separate what's provable from what's theatrical—so speculation doesn't drown the signal. Memorials, optics, and power. We assess the staging, speeches, and symbolism—not to snark, but to understand how grief, politics, and influence collide in public rituals. Faith as compass. Finally, we pivot from critique to construction: Scripture-anchored principles that make life better—and make activism braver, wiser, and harder to co-opt. That's the new North Star. Call to Action If you believe truth still matters, subscribe now and turn on alerts. Watch full episodes on YouTube, get deeper dives on Substack, and follow along on social for clips, receipts, and live Q&As. Your listens, shares, and reviews keep this mission moving—thank you for riding with me. All the Links One tap to everything: https://linktr.ee/theaustinjadams   Support My Business: Https://roninbasics.com ----more---- Full Transcript  Adams archive. Hello, you beautiful people and welcome to the Adams Archive. My name is Austin Adams, and thank you so much for listening today. On today's episode, we're gonna talk about where the heck I've been for over a year, because this is my first podcast back and I cannot be more excited about it. So we'll talk about what happened that caused me to drop off the way I did off of social media, off of my podcast. Uh, it has to do with obviously some of the. Political situations that are happening, some of the infighting, kind of just finding my own way and my own mission again. And so I'll tell you all about that journey and actually how I was affected by Charlie Kirk, and he inspired me to grab the microphone back and begin to continue my journey of speaking out for that mission. So then we're gonna talk about all of the happenings with the Charlie Kirk assassination. Absolute tragedy. It has now been. 13 days, almost two weeks since the event happened. And we're gonna talk through all of it. We're gonna talk through Charlie Kirk's character. We're gonna talk through some of the learnings that I had from Charlie Kirk, and all of the clips that we've all been seeing over the last couple of weeks. Uh, we're gonna talk about, um. All of the questions that I have surrounding his assassination. 'cause I have a lot of them. I have gone through and had analyzed many of the previous, uh, assassinations that were super high profile and politically motivated in the past. And through that lens I have a lot of. Questions a lot of them. And so we'll walk through what all of those questions are. We'll walk through what the actual narrative that's being given to us by the government is we'll talk through what are those current plot holes, who is talking about them. And even more importantly, who's not talking about them. We will talk about, uh, and when I say that, I'm mostly sa saying, you know, cash Patel and the FBI and the, you know, the governmental agencies that are responsible for this. Although, I would say one thing we're gonna talk about too is that Cash Patel actually came out and, uh, kind of, uh. Called it what he saw a lot of people talking about. So we'll go through the FBI director's tweet that actually broke down a lot of the conspiracies, so we'll, we'll go through that as well. Then we're gonna talk through what, what could be the political motivation to this? Who could have, this is actually been, if it's not the guy they're saying it is, if it's a patsy, who could it have actually been? Right? A lot of people are throwing out the word real, and I don't know if that's the only name that we should be throwing out in the political landscape that we're in. I have a couple other theories. So then we'll talk about how freedom of speech has been under attack since this happened, and why that's the worst possible reaction you could have ever had to Charlie Kirk's assassination. And then we'll talk a little bit about the memorial 'cause I have some weird thoughts about that, including some thoughts about Erica Kirk, although she had an amazing speech. So nothing to take away from that. But I got some questions guys. I got some questions and I'm here to talk about it with you. So stick around and before I forget. Leave a review, hit that five stars, subscribe. If this is your first time here, thank you so much. I appreciate you from the bottom of my heart. If this is the first time listening to me in over a year, I appreciate you too. I'm so glad to be back. Thank you for listening, and without further ado, let's jump into it. The Adams archive. All right, let's jump into it. So the first question you might have is, where the heck have you been to Austin? Good question. Let me answer that for you. So about a year ago, um. With all the situations that was happening politically, Trump kind of looking like he was getting into office and I kind of lost my mission in, in what I was doing this for, right? We go all the way back to the very first episode. The goal of this podcast was to give my thoughts in a way that I thought that my children, my grandchildren, could hear my opinions as to certain current events and previous historical events. And if nobody ever listened to it, that would be pretty cool to me if my children listened to it and got to hear their dad, their grandpa, their whatever, talk about these events, first person, and not have to take it from some textbook that was written for them without any additional narratives around what actually happened. So that's where this started. Then that turned into me being, uh, very politically motivated in, in a lot of the things that I saw that I think were against the better good of our country. And being the patriot that I grew up being, uh, I wanted to correct those and speak out about those things and, and give my opinion on those things and be a voice for people like you who maybe didn't have the time or the energy or the effort to be able to do these types of things or, um, you know, maybe the, the, I don't know. I would say hopefully not. Uh. You know, eloquence to be able to do so. Um, so that was some of the reasoning behind what I did this four, right? If nothing else, my children could listen to it and they would think that's pretty cool. And I would think that's pretty cool. And along the way, a lot of you guys also cared about my opinion. And so I found myself in a situation where I continued to continue, continued to talk about current events. And I found, found myself getting washed out a little bit, um, because. It felt like we were winning, right? It felt like the war was kind of won. It felt like we overcame the, uh, the wokeness that was ingraining itself into our society, and, and the, the pendulum had swung back. And so I didn't feel as motivated to take the time to speak out about those things as, uh, energetically as I had previously. And so. From there. I also have a business or multiple businesses. I have a family, and so I decided to put my time, energy, and effort into that. But now I realize after tying this into the full narrative here, where that went wrong, right? There is a bigger picture here for those children who will be listening to this, for those grandchildren who would be listening to this. And what I would say to them is, let your voice be heard. Your voice matters, and. But I think there's a reason, there's a, there's a way that I kind of went wrong with what I was doing before, and hopefully I can correct that. It fell very much into the right verse left category right. What I found to be really interesting watching a lot of the clips with Charlie Kirk is that he wasn't just taking his finger and wagging it at people and telling them what they were doing wrong. He was telling them how they could do better and then pointing them in a direction that would help them do so. And by a direction, I mean up towards God, towards Jesus, towards the Bible, towards biblical teachings and how they can improve their life. If they followed these teachings, your life will get better. They don't just tell you, you shouldn't do that thing, right? You should, well, maybe you shouldn't do that thing, and let me show you how this can help you to improve your life, not only in this facet, but in others. And so I think that was something that was missing from my approach before where I don't think I gave enough positive. Answers to the negativity that I found myself having to bask in every day. Right? There was just so much negativity, whether it was the trans stuff, whether it was the, the political landscape or the wars that were breaking out or all of these things like the, the, it just was so heavy and so negative constantly without the guiding light to push people towards. That was what Charlie Kirk. Was able to do and the impact that he had. And what we saw is that the, the biggest theme about Charlie Kirk wasn't his socioeconomic beliefs, his his beliefs on the tax regulation or his judicial beliefs on certain laws and regulations. Like it wasn't, it was none of that. Right? The reason that Charlie Kirk had such a big impact was because he pointed. People up, he ported them towards something better, even if he was critiquing something that they were doing. And usually this morality that he found himself holding was based fundamentally in those teachings that he learned from the Bible. And I, myself, as you, you may know from the years that you've been listening to me, wasn't as, uh, entrenched in my faith as maybe I am now. And I'm glad to say that I, I'm there. I found it. I've, over the last couple of years, I, I have been able to. Read more about the Bible, read more about Jesus, read more about Christianity, and have been able to find something for myself and my family that has made me a better man and have made me a better leader for those around me. And so, um, yeah, that's what I got to say about it guys. Like it was so negative and there was no better way, right? It was just, this is bad, this sucks. You guys are terrible. This is not good for humanity. It was never like, Hey, but check, check this thing out over here. This is pretty cool guys. Like this could actually help you improve your life. And, uh, and so I'm, I'm happy to say that I've found that, and, and the, the way that I plan to approach this moving forward is not that of like left verse right. It's not blue verse red and it is truly about good verse evil. That is what this podcast will be about. If I see something that I think is morally wrong, I will call it out, whether it's on the left, whether it's on the right, whether it's nothing to do with politics, I will call it out. That is the goal of this, and so if you don't like that, if feel free to leave now, that's perfectly fine with me. That's perfectly fine. I will find my tribe, although I have an inkling to think that the people who have been listening to me are also on the same wavelength as me, and for so long I have also criticized Trump and, and the things that he's doing. And, uh, I will continue to do so if those things I believe are morally unethical, including the Epstein files. Right in including the preemptive strike on Iran, including like some of these things that we've been talking about that I've been calling out for quite some time. That is going to be the theme of what we're doing here, guys. Okay. So with all that being said, I found a better way and I am so thankful that Charlie Kirk kind of paved the way for this type of discussion. And, uh, happy to say that I'll be picking up the mic myself along with many, many other people to hopefully continue his legacy. All right. With all that said, let's talk about the event with Charlie Kirk. Right? And one of the things that he taught me is that politics is the battleground for morality, but it's not the only battleground, right? There's so many other things that we need to discuss and talk about, including the health movement, including, you know. So many different topics. And so there's been a complete illusion of choice, right? It's not left versus right. It's not blue versus red. It's good versus evil. And what we saw with Charlie Kirk was absolute evil. And where that came from, we're gonna get to the bottom of it. Alright? So the mainstream narrative with Charlie Kirk is that there was a lone gunman who acted alone, who assassinated Charlie Kirk because of his beliefs on trans ideology. That seems to be the narrative, right? That's the writings on the bullet, right? He, he took himself onto the top of the rooftop and took a shot from almost parallel to Charlie Kirk, and it went into his neck and didn't have any exit wound, and Charlie died right there on the spot. And then, then some weird stuff happened and occurred that we'll talk about too. So one of those things being. One thing that I seem to have the biggest problem with here is that so many people, Donald Trump, k Patel, uh, even Erica Kirk, during the Memorial service, everybody is out there saying that. Anybody who tells you that this is case closed at this point, September 23rd, 2025. Anybody who tells you that this is case closed with Charlie Kirk's assassin, we should stop. Looking at other, other, pulling on other strings, looking in other directions, asking questions that aren't anything to do with this man, Tyler Robinson, then you should be suspicious of them. One, he's made no confession. Why are reacting like this is the guy if there's no confession? He hasn't been tried by a jury. It's not even the court of public opinion at this point because it's not the public's opinion. It's the court of government opinion. We're being told by everybody in the government right now that this is the guy stop asking questions case shut. He did it. Gonna get the death penalty. Doesn't that seem weird in a society that you are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty? That is how this is supposed to go. The government does not get to jump on a news cycle. Say he did it. We know he did it. We don't have the evidence yet besides these discord, discord, uh, discord chats that Discord says didn't exist. Right. And we'll look at those chats together 'cause those are super suspicious. So he goes on the roof, he shoots him, then he gets off of the roof right after dissembling his rifle, which would take more than a minute to disassemble. Big pothole there. Right shot shot him with a 30 out six into the neck, but it apparently had no exit wound. Very weird, right? According to the surgeon that worked on him, according to the PR agent, that works for Turning Point, that's the case because of his bone density. Okay? Anybody who knows anything about guns would tell you that a 30 out six caliber rifle, right, a 36 bullet would completely have an exit wound. No situation where that doesn't occur. That is meant for big game, right? No way. That's the case. So shoots him, jumps off there, goes into a forest, goes, walks through the back area of this, you know, of UVU, takes his rifle, puts it into his backpack while he is on the roof, jumps off the roof, goes into the woods, wraps, reassembles his rifle. Wraps it in a towel, leaves it in the middle of the woods. Just the murder weapon. Right? Just the murder weapon. The one thing that you probably don't wanna leave, the one thing decides to leave it in the towel there. Okay. Then goes to his car, seems to do something for several hours, including go to a McDonald's or a Dairy Queen, I think was where the picture was taken. The same day and then lingers allegedly around where he left his rifle during a huge lockdown, right? Helicopters, tons of police presence lingers around there for like six or seven hours according to the timelines, waiting for the perfect moment to jump in and get his rifle weird. So let's look at those text messages and see what they're telling you was said between them. And this is him and his boyfriend slash trans lover that he lived with. All right, here we go. Here are the text messages. Now, some of the biggest questions people have about this is the type of language that they're using, right? Some of the specific words here come from this bottom paragraph. Now, one thing I'd like to point out that I thought was brilliantly pointed out by. Candace Owens producer or somebody that was on the set with her is that there is a ton when it comes to the Tyler Robinson text messages. There is a ton of ellipses, ton of them. Every single sentence it seems like right ev, above each of these individual text message, ellipses, ellipses, ellipses, ellipses, ellipses. That's not written. That's saying that they cherry picked different statements from different parts of the conversations and omitted others. That's not evidence being given to the public. That's doctored evidence being given to the public. And by the way, there's no timelines here. You know how every single texting platform since a IM has told you when a message came through. They're not telling you that here. Pretty suspicious. Now, if you get to the bottom of this doctored conversation that apparently happened on Discord, but Discord said didn't happen on Discord, you would see this, this writing by Robinson to his trans boyfriend, roommate, lover. And what people are saying about this, by the way, is that it sounds like. They put something into chat, GPT saying that, oh, write a conversation between two people in their twenties where they're talking about, you know, X, Y, and Z. Right? What I would do if I was writing this, if I was the FBI writing this, right? If I was the FBI, writing this conversation between Tyler Robinson and his boyfriend, trans lover, here's the prompt that I would give it. I would say. Write a conversation between two Gen Z men. Both are gay, one is trans, and make it check these evidence boxes. One, he used his grandpa's rifle. Two, he left it in the forest. Three he wrote on the bullets. Four, he X, Y, and Z. Right? Write down the line. Here's exactly what the evidence that I need you to integrate into this discussion. That's what this looks like. Now, what other people are saying is that it doesn't look like people took the, the prompts that they put in said between people in their twenties. It sounds more like they said people in the twenties, like in the 1920s, makes it so much more believable with the way that they're talking. So some of the questions, some of the su suspicions that people have around this are this particular statement which says, I'm wishing I had circled back. This is talking about how he left the, the gun within the forest. I'm wishing I had circled back and grabbed it as soon as I got to my vehicle. Vehicle. Kind of a weird term for a 20-year-old male to use and not somebody who's. Federal law enforcement, which is what it much more sounds like. I'm worried ab, I'm worried what my old man would do if I didn't bring back grandpa's rifle. I don't even know if I, it had a serial number, but it wouldn't trace to me. I worry about my prints. I had to leave it in a bush where I changed outfits. Outfits another weird thing for a 20-year-old male to say, most guys don't change outfits. They change clothes. Most guys don't drive a vehicle. They drive a car. Weird. Didn't have the ability or time to bring it back with me. And I also should probably give you where these ellipses are. 'cause we've already had three in this singular sentence where they're jumping around and cherry picking statements anyways, uh, and changed outfits. Didn't have the ability or time to bring it with me. Or to bring it with ellipses, I might have to abandon it and hope they don't find Prince. How the F will I explain losing it to my old man, the old man and grandpa. Thing's kind of weird. Kind of weird. Maybe some people say that. My old man, like it's still going back. It sounds a little, little off to me right now. There's a bunch of other things in here, but the biggest thing is the ellipses. The biggest thing is the vernacular. The biggest thing is how weird and off this sounds for a 22-year-old. Guy to speak this way. Okay. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt. Maybe he's weird. Probably is. Now, let's look at the tweet from Cash Patel. All right. He wrote this, I think it was two days ago now, on the, yep, the 21st. He wrote a direct. Response to all of the cons, all of the conspiracies, right? Cash Patel says, Hey, I'm going to address these conspiracies. So Cash Patel wrote this tweet addressing these conspiracies, and here's what he had to say about it. As the director of the FBII am committed to ensuring the investigation in the Charlie Kirk's assassination is thorough and exhaustive. Pursuing every lead. Pursuing every lead. Um. To its conclusion. The full weight of America's law enforcement agencies are actively following the evidence that has emerged, but our efforts extend beyond initial findings. We are examining every facet of this assassination. We are meticulously, and I'm gonna break down each one of these for you. 'cause he says all of the different conspiracies, not all of them. He points out some of the inconsistencies in their reporting, and I'll go through what each one of them are broken down into it in detail. We are meticulously investigating theories and questions, including the location from where the shot was taken. The possibility of accomplices, the text message, confession and related conversations, discord chats the angle of the shot and impact how the weapon was transported. Hand gestures observed as potential signals near Charlie at the time of his assassination and visitors to the alleged shooters, residents, and the hours and days of leading up to September 10th, 2025. Some details are known today, while others are still being pursued to ensure every possibility is being considered. So let's go back up and let's talk through each one of these individual things that he's addressing. One is including the location from where the shot was taken. Okay? And I'd like to remind you guys when it comes to Charlie Kirk's assassination, we've been training for this, we've been studying for this. We have an entire society. Who has spent five years uncovering government conspiracies. Now they think in real time they can pull one over on us on a, with a huge world stage assassination. And we're not gonna figure this out. Like guys, we've been training for this from C-O-V-I-D-J-F-K assassination, MLK assassination, right? All of those, we know when there is a lone shooter. That lone shooter. A lone shooter is never usually the person that actually conducted the hit. That's what we call a patsy, the fall guy, right? We know this. That's the formula of these conspiracies, right? That's what happened with JFK. That's what happened with MLK, right? We go back and back to each one of these major assassinations or assassination attempts, right? You go back to the assassination attempt by Trump, which. Weirdly enough, we know far more about Tyler Robinson at this point than we ever figured out about Trump's assassinator, right? Or attempted alleged assassin. Kind of weird, kind of weird that Trump's not even asking questions about why this guy tried to kill him. Kind of weird. Trump. Trump, the guy with the biggest ego in the world. We all know it. Is not even trying to figure out why this kid tried to kill him. You know, the one that was in the BlackRock commercial, kind of weird and everybody just dropped it. Everybody dropped it. Nobody's asking questions about that anymore. We're not even exploring that. That conspiracy over done case closed, shut, bye. But we have been studying for this. We have been. We, we were born in the dark. You simply adapted Bain. Right? We have been studying for this. They think they can pull one over on us. They think you're stupid, just like they've thought for a hundred years. Just like they thought they did when they pulled off JFK, just like they thought you were when they pulled off MLK. Right? Just like they thought when they were doing Operation Northwoods or MK Ultra, or. Any one of these things, right? Go back. I got a whole list of episodes for you to listen to on government conspiracies, but guess what? We're too smart for this now, and we are in real time uncovering exactly where the potholes are, which took us 50 years with the other assassinations. We're gonna figure this out guys. We're not gonna let this go. So here are some of the things that Kash Patel pointed out. We are meticulously investigating theories and questions, including the location from where the shot was taken. Right? Question number one, was the shot actually taken by the man who was running across the top of the building from the location that was directly in front of Charlie Kirk? Well, that would be kind of weird if it was actually a 30 out six cartridge because the location. Everybody's thinking is probably more likely an exit wound, which usually, and everybody saw that video, everybody has PTSD from it. It was horrible to see. That's usually where you see that type of blood amount coming from the body. Not an entrance wound, the exit wound. So that would mean that he wasn't shot from straightforward and it hit here. He was shot maybe from this direction, which is what people are exploring. There was another location that people seem to think there's even videos online where people are slowing down and saying that they saw a bullet from that direction, right? Or I guess the direction to Charlie's right from where he was facing right and up instead of directly in front of him. So people are slowing down that footage and seeing that. So that would mean that there was not only one person on the roof over here, but potentially one person on the roof over here. Not only that. There's also another theory because they seem to have cemented over the patio area that he was shot on, right? All of that, that, you know, the crime scene within 48 hours, they went and covered the entire thing, kind of suspicious. But what people saw when they were covering that with. That there was actually immediately behind, and I saw this on X and I didn't even believe it. I thought this was AI being used to put fuel on the fire of the conspiracies with Charlie Kirk. I didn't believe this one until Candace Owens came with receipts and said there is a trap door behind where Charlie Kirk was sitting. That image is real weird. Very weird. So the question being asked there is, could that person have shot him from that trap door behind him? Seems crazy. Seems super wild. But guess what? People are crazy. Governments are crazy and they've done wild stuff forever. That seems like a pretty clean way to make this happen. Barely gotta even open it, right? Other people are looking at the microphone. Trolley's shirt and seeing how that completely moved. Right. Some people are thinking that it's a, you know, do you wanna get really into the weirdness? I don't agree with it. And I, I think this is, uh, kind of a gross conspiracy where they're saying that it was like some sort of, um, device that would shoot out the blood. Right. But other people are saying, is that where the bullet came from? There's a microphone on him. Right, so, so many questions about it. Just from that first, first statement, so many different theories, so many different possibilities, and I'm sure there's thousands of others possibilities just from that first statement that we're not even thinking of yet. The next question is the possibility of accomplices. Now, this is a weird one. There is a man, there was a man, an old man on the scene after Tyler Robinson allegedly pulled the trigger. Who raised his hand, threw himself in, into the, the, the police and said, I did it. I shot him. And that guy later going to jail for child pornography on his phone. Surprise, surprise, then says, I just did that 'cause I wanted the guy to get away. Hmm. That seems pretty weird to me. Does it not? That seems pretty weird. What person in a situation like that, they hear a gunshot. They, they, let's start from the beginning. They go to an event for somebody they dislike. Now, that's not out of the norm, especially for Charlie Kirk. He invited those people out. He wants to debate those people perfectly fine. Makes sense. Maybe he went to the location for that. Okay. Let's say that then gunfire rings out. In the midst of the chaos, he sees Charlie Kirk get shot. He decides I'm going to not only say that, you know, I'm, I'm gonna raise my hand, say that I did it, which means that he thought through, not only that, but he thought through the idea that, well, I'm probably not actually gonna go to jail for this. If I say that I do it right now, that's also gonna help that guy get away. And that means I'm gonna get away with, or I'm gonna get out of here because there's no real evidence to indict me. Because he's basically saying, I'm gonna be the fall guy for this. Right. Weird. Who thinks to do that during gunfire? Super weird. And who thinks through that far and says, well, I know they're not gonna be able to indict me. I know they're not gonna be able to charge me, even though I'm admitting to it in this moment. It's really just gonna allow that shooter to get away. And by the way, I care so much about that shooter. I don't want him to go to jail for this. I'll be the fall guy all in within a minute or two of this shooting happening. Five minutes, whatever. It's. Super weird. Now other people are saying he was on a discord chat with other, uh, 20 other people and there was a Utah L-G-B-T-Q-I-L-M-N-O-P, something about, uh, gun owners or learning to use guns within that community. Okay? Pretty weird, right? 20 people in the Discord chat. Only Discord still says that they have nothing to do with this. Still says that they don't have the the, the messages. The next one is the text message confession. We just went through that. Super suspicious. The next one is related conversations, discord chats. Okay. The next one is the angle of the shot in the bullet impact. We need an autopsy. The third one is fourth one, fifth one, whatever it is, how the weapon was transported. Was it taken down in real time? That took him an entire minute. Well, that's weird because he jumped off the building within 15 seconds. So how did he take that down? Put it in his backpack, like disassembled a rifle, which takes about a minute. That rifle specifically puts it in his backpack, a backpack that wouldn't fit that rifle. Also suspicious, then gets into the woods, changes his clothes, reassembles his rifle, wraps it in the towel. Throws it in the bush. Yeah, nothing makes sense about that. Okay, good. And then visitors to the alleged shooters residence in the hours and days leading up to September 10th, people were saying with around Tyler Robinson's, uh, location where his house, where he lived with his boyfriend that he had out of state plates visiting his house in the days and weeks leading up to the shooting. Okay, so there's everything Cash Patel is addressing within his tweet about this, but at least he's addressing these things. Now. I don't know if he really had a choice in this environment, right? Anything that Charlie or that that Kash Patel says at this point, I'm just super suspicious of because I've seen him lie about Epstein so many times at this point. Why would we believe anything that he has to say about the assassination of Charlie Kirk? Why would we believe anything? He has lied to the community. He has lied to your face. He has lied to the American people so many times about Epstein. So many times, right? We still don't have answers of why the security footage was cut at the exact time that Epstein was. Suicide. Still don't have that answer. Right? And we'll get into the reasons why. I think, you know, this happened in just a moment, but these are some of the questions that people have, right? So now who, if not he, if not Tyler Robinson, who could it be? Now there's a whole online community of people pointing the finger. It is real. And the reason for that is somewhat legitimate. Everybody. Everybody who has been watching Charlie Kirk over the last several months has seen that Charlie has been criticizing Israel, has been super skeptical, whether it's about what they're doing in Gaza, which he called an ethnic cleansing, literally word for word, just a month ago, to tying Mossad to Jeffrey Epstein, which he said just a month, a month and a half ago. With Patrick Beda, his podcast, I believe it was, and then hosting AM Fest, where he had Dave Smith debate somebody, and not only debate them, but demolish them on the topic of Israel. And how what they're doing is wrong and how it's a genocide and how it's horrible and atrocious. And then he also spoke about how he believes the Mossad and Israel are blackmailing all of the politicians in the us, not all of them, but many of them. And he also spoke about APAC and how he thinks that, you know, they should be registered under Farah, which is also quite interesting. Something that JFK talked about almost in the weeks prior up to him getting assassinated. Then you get into the situation with the Hamptons that Candace is talking about, which is the fact that there was a meeting of influencers, and by influencers, I say all of the traditionalist, uh, corporate influencers in this space, right? All of the Zion. Pr you all of the Zionist daily wire. Um, and then you have some people sprinkle in there that aren't that. But a lot of it had to do with the, you know, the, the entrenched corporate influencers that have been propped up by those types of organizations. And meeting there with Charlie. And originally the idea was that they were gonna talk about menani, the, the, you know, New York, um, mayor. And then it turned into a somewhat. Very serious, uh, cornering of Charlie Kirk about Israel and how, what he's doing wrong. And then that led to a final Stitch effort by Benjamin Netanyahu of offering Charlie Kirk $150 million to Turning Point USA. Why would he do that? Why would you offer $150 million as a country to a foreign country's, uh, media company? Well, for influence. To turn it into a propaganda arm for you, and guess what? Charlie Kirk said, no. Guess where we're at now. Just a month later, he's dead. Makes pretty logical sense, right? That's one of the theories and that's a fair theory, but I don't think it's the only theory that we should be pursuing a question that I have. Who else is gaining off of this? Who is gaining something from this assassination? And maybe we marry these two ideas, right? Every assassination in the last a hundred years was not done by a lone gunman in this political sphere. And there was always some, some of these two, one of these two organizations or groups, Masad, CIA, that's it. Now, it's not to say that there's other foreign governments that aren't doing these things and doing it in different locations, but all of the prominent ones that we know of likely allegedly had to do with one of those two organizations or both of them. So when we look at this situation, the fact that nobody is calling out the Trump administration or the CIA or our local domestic government being a part of this. Seems like a big hole to me. Why? Why would they do this? Who's set to gain from it? Well, Trump has a 39, a 39% approval rating. Right now. Trump has lost much of his base because the litmus test for him being truthful and honest and really wanting to improve American politics and drain the swamp, as he would say was Jeffrey Epstein. Then he went on the gaslighting tour telling us, Jeffrey Epstein is a hoax. It doesn't even really exist. He didn't traffic it to anybody. He was backed up by Dan Bongino. He was backed up by KS Patel. He was backed up by Pam Bombi. Right. Who also said that there was 10,000 hours worth of tapes of horrific things that they found, but then retracts that later. Right. That was the litmus test. That's how we knew if he was being honest or not, and he wasn't, and he lost his base. He lost me. I tried to convince everybody that I talked to to vote for Trump. I would not do that again at this point because he's not being honest and he's very likely a part of the Epstein files. I've reported on that before. Several times. He was on the flight logs, right? He, there's 17 different separate pictures of him at different times. He drew that picture for his birthday and gave it to him. Kind of suspicious and weird. Um, lots of reasons. Lots of reasons. So now with a 39% approval rating, you see what happened at the memorial service, which looked like to me more of a Trump rally when Trump got out there, right? Walked out with his WWE walkout song and fireworks shooting down and a a, a live musician singing. I'm proud to be an American. Right? Not amazing grace. Not, not anything glorifying Charlie Kirk's legacy. I'm proud to be an American. The same song Trump came out to, to his rallies and he treated it like a rally. Majority of the statements that came out of Trump's mouth were not about the legacy of Charlie Kirk. Now he ended most of his sentences trying to tie it back, and Charlie would agree with me on this, that we've done a great job on X, Y, and Z. Right? Then gives his big reveal about vaccines. And Tylenol and autism, right? Uses this as his podium to come out and try to gain public approval again, and we'll get more into detail on that in just a second, but I just thought that's weird. But first, before we jump into that, let's talk about this bringing up Pam Bondy's name is The Situation with Hate speech, let's watch Pam Bondy's own words when it comes to the difference between hate speech and free speech. According to her, here we go. There's free speech and then there's hate speech, and there is no place, especially now, especially after what happened to Charlie in our society. Do you see? More law enforcement going after these groups who are using hate speech and putting cuffs on people. So we show them that some action is better than no action. We will absolutely target you, go after you if you are targeting anyone with hate, speech, anything, and that's across the aisle. There's free speech and then there's hate. So let's be clear what she's talking about there, because she, she came out and said, oh, I was, I was speaking about people who are making threatening remarks. No, no. That's not what hate speech is. Right? There's laws around making violent threats, right, that are credible. But when she's talking about this here, what you have to understand when you have Republicans clapping right to the sound of her saying that they're gonna go after people for hate speech, especially in light of like this Jimmy Kimmel switch of hands where they made it seem like they were actually gonna get rid of him, but they actually didn't. Right. What they were doing is called a shock test, right? They were trying to figure out what would the public's response be if we go after people on mainstream media and get rid of their platform by leveraging, you know, the tools of the federal government, right? Because that's what happened here, is that. Apparently Trump went to the FCC Board and put pressure on them, and they went to A, B, C, and to Disney and to all of these affiliates, and they basically got him pulled off. Right, but the, the point of that was not to actually pull him from the air because today's Tuesday the 23rd and he's going to be aired again already. They were trying to figure out exactly what your response would be. Republicans, Democrats, both sides of the aisle, libertarian, everybody. They were trying to figure out what the response would be, and you guys, maybe not you, but you guys failed right on both sides of the aisle. Right. We were so against hate speech when it had to do with COVID, when it had to do with, uh, the Black Lives Matter riots when it had to do the L-G-B-T-Q-I-E, letter P, whatever, right? We were so against it until it's time for us to, right. The Voltaire quote, uh, I wholly disagree with what you have to say, and I will put down my life to defend your right to say it. Something like that, right? And so the idea. That they were testing you, they were trying to figure out how you would respond, right? And they did that. And now he's gonna be back on air. And now they know that you'll crumble under pressure. And again, maybe not you, but the general public. And so we have to be clear here. This hate speech that Pam Bondy is talking about is not going to be about Charlie Kirk. This had nothing. This statement has nothing to do with Charlie Kirk. They tried to make it seem like that with Jimmy Kimmel. Interesting timing. But it has nothing to do with that. What it has to do with is going to be your criticism of who Take a guess Israel. That will be the new shadow banning crusade. That will be the new lose your platform, get banned from Instagram, Twitter, x, TikTok, all of them, right? That is gonna be the new battleground that will have to be fought on for free speech, right? It's no longer COVID. It's no longer LGB, whatever. It's gonna be Israel. That's what these laws will be used for. And guess what? If you're under 30, if you're under 40, and even if you're on the right, generally statistically, you don't agree with what's happening and what Israel's doing, and so they will come after you. That's what she says at the very bad, at the very end of that clip on both sides of the aisle. Well, what are both sides of the aisle saying that they don't like? It's about Israel. That's gonna be the anti-Semitic hate speech that's going to cause you to get banned on Instagram or TikTok. Right? Trust me. Lost my TikTok. Totally banned from TikTok and lost my Instagram platform for, from growing for like two years during COVID because I was speaking what the truth if they, if they knew that you were lying, they wouldn't have to silence you because the truth eventually comes out. Right. They wouldn't have to label you because they know that what you're saying, right? They don't have to say you're anti-Semitic or you're anti-vax, right? They called you anti-VAX when they didn't like the facts of what you were saying about vaccines, right? They called you vaccine hesitant, right? All of those situations, this will come around to bite you. So if you are the person clapping to this, realize this is not. For what you think it is and it is always and will always be a Trojan horse for the government to gain more power. And guess what? That's what we're against here. Right? Right. That's what we're against here. We do not want to centralize more power to the government to tell people what they can and what they cannot say or think, or this is not the minority report. We're not able to handcuff people for thoughts or words. That is what our forefathers, the founding fathers said explicitly, the freedom of speech is what everything else is built off of. The First Amendment is protected by the Second Amendment, and all the other amendments have to be protected by the First Amendment. That's it. So disgusting, not something I support. Absolutely not, and just further makes me dislike Pam Bondi. All right. Now moving on to the Charlie Kirk Memorial, which I think is important to this to touch on too. There were some beautiful moments. There were some kind of weird moments, right? Some things to do with Erica Kirk that some people are now pointing out is kind of weird. We'll talk about those. Uh, so some of the things that I would like to point out that were positive about this one, I do think it's incredible that we're having a national discussion about our faith. One Nation under God, one nation under God. I think it's amazing that you had all these Christian artists out there singing the gospel. Pretty awesome, pretty cool, all the biggest ones, right? Brandon Lake was there, right? You had all these huge artists there that were, were singing amazing songs. Uh, and then you had almost every politician that was there mentioned. God, Jesus. Right? The believing of Charlie Kirk and what had brought this, this new rising of Christianity within our country. But I do think that there was some bad faith actors leveraging that name, right. Leveraging the name of Jesus in a way that I find to be disingenuous. Right? I also didn't like Jack Poso ex's talk where he was basically doing some sort of weird, like. Rally cried. His, like thinking it was like his coming out party for, for himself to take the stage and not just like honor the, the legacy of Charlie Kirk. I do think that the, uh, you know, Tucker Carlson had some amazing highlights, one of which was talking about exactly what we were talking about earlier, where he was pointing out that, you know, the, the, the very similarities of the story of Jesus and him being crucified for saying things that. A specific party didn't seem to like him saying and was alluding to that being the exact case here, which I thought was interesting. Uh, especially in light of Candace Owens and him being the one that was given a platform to speak at this event and still platforming, platforming stupid word, but still talking about that in an open discussion for this specific party, right, of people that he was claiming might have something to do with this. Right. Tucker's moment was amazing. You should go listen to his entire speech. I thought it was incredible. Uh, now when we get into, uh, Erica Kirk's moments, you know, the, the fact that she was able to stand on stage, I'm not this good of a man yet. The fact that she was able to stand on that stage 10 days after her husband was assassinated, and forgive the person that she's saying assassinated him or believes that assassinated him. Man, that was unbelievably powerful. Unbelievably powerful and incredible. And, and I also loved the part of her statement. You know, often when it comes to Christianity and people getting into Christianity, especially women, they seem to have this negative idea of Christianity based on the idea that they should be subservient or servant to their serve, their husband. And there's this complete wrong way of thinking about it that I think Erica addressed perfectly, which was that you are not his employee. Do, do treat your wife as if she is your partner. You are partner. She is your partner, you are her partner, and she's not your employee. She's not your slave. Right? And I thought that was a great way to address the women of this nation who are maybe interested in Christianity in their Christian faith and exploring it further, but finding some distaste for the way that some people misrepresent the biblical teachings in the way about the way that you should look at your wife and the way that she should, uh, you know, kind of. Allow you to lead your family, right? That doesn't mean that you take advantage of her. And I thought that was a great statement that she made as well. Now, a couple of things that I thought was weird about this, weird about the, the, the situation at the, uh, the memorial service, one being. Trump came out to Charlie Kirk's memorial, like he was about to storm John Cena in the WWE Fireworks and sparklers and music being sang by somebody in the background. God bless America, the whole three minutes, not a little excerpt, the entire thing. And then Trump walked on stage and had the audacity for 30 to 40 minutes, however long it was to barely touch on the legacy of Charlie Kirk. I thought this was completely distasteful. I thought it was gross. Everything that Trump talked about was himself. It seemed like he took that opportunity as a moment for him to try to win back the popularity of the people with a 39% current approval rating to try to, Hey guys, also, you know, this guy died, but also I'm amazing. Look at all the great things that I'm doing. And Charlie thought so too, and that's exactly how he stated all these things was like he would do a whole thing on what he's doing. That's great. Right. The, the vaccine or the autism thing with Tylenol. And then he would, and Charlie would, Charlie would love it. Charlie would love it. He would just, he would put an exclamation point that was about Charlie. He would tie him into every single statement, but none of the statements were truly about Charlie. Maybe the first five minutes, I thought that was gross. I thought it was distasteful. I don't think that was the right platform. This is literally something to honor the legacy of a great man, and you took it as an opportunity for you to grandstand at this man's podium over his casket. Figuratively speaking to talk about how amazing of a job you're doing when you know the general public totally disagrees with you on that. Starting with the Epstein files, it was gross. It was weird. Not the place, not the time. The next thing that I thought was weird was the ending, and, and I'll preface this with I'm. I am not going to, I'm, I'm going to preface this with the idea that I don't believe there's actually something, well, I'm not gonna say that I don't believe it. I don't have any credible evidence that there's something here yet. But there's something weird about the way that Erica Kirk went about her, the ending of that. Like, it was very pageant esque. Right. And she was Miss Arizona, right? Like she was in that environment. So maybe that's just the, the. Muscle fibers, the fast twitch muscle fibers, they're the muscle memory that turns on when she gets on a stage and starts public speaking, which is super fair and, and also we'll also preface this with the fact that if you tell anybody that they need to stand in front of a 10 million people and give a speech about their dead husbands who was assassinated, who died 10 days ago, and also do it next to the president, they're probably gonna act a little weird. But there's a lot of people in the public who are starting to ask questions about Erica Kirk and if she's, uh, in any way, shape, or form, not thinking either in the best interest of Charlie's legacy or something of that sort. I dunno. I don't necessarily agree with it. I did think there was a few weird points. One being at the very end with the hug with Trump, it looked very pageantry. It looked very like, uh, like a photo op. Not like you're literally actually grieving your husband's death and then you so happen to hug the president and lay your head on his chest and like weep in this weird, pageantry way. I just didn't like it. I thought it was weird. I, again, I'm not trying to be disrespectful to her. I have the, the utmost respect to her and her family. I just thought it was weird and a lot of other people did too. I'm not the only guy. Now, this started a whole thing around Erica Kirk and people digging into her background. One of the things that people are starting to point to, and I have found no evidence of this, no proper evidence that supports this, and I looked, but people are saying that Erica Kirk had this. Nonprofit that she started like 20 years ago, almost. Not sure how that's possible with her being 36 or so, 37. Uh, she started this thing called the Romanian Angels and where she set up an orphanage in Romania. And uh, there was some people alleging that locals were saying that they were in some way, shape or form trafficking children or selling them through some adoption channels in the US or. Something of the sort like that I found no evidence of that. But how many people do you know at 19, 18 years old start a Romanian, uh, children's orphanage and work with the US military to do it? Uh, I also saw some. Allegedly, I have not seen any, any validation of this. Some people saying that her dad was, had some ties into, um, like the military industrial complex in Raytheon. I saw some other people pointing out that a, she was a casting director during the time, uh, or not a casting director, but there was like some, she claims to have been in some way, shape, or form a part of the, the movie industry or some sort of like a casting person that would find talent or would, there was something around that, that idea. And people were saying it's kind of weird that at the same time that. Donald Trump owns the Miss USA pageant. She also is a part of Miss Arizona and he's also friends with Jeffrey Epstein. I don't see a connection there. Doesn't make sense to me. And then last but not least, her and Charlie met in Israel of all places. Somewhat interesting. They met for a job interview. He went to interview her, said he didn't wanna hire her, he wanted to marry her, or something along those lines. Great background story. Beautiful love story. Uh, and again, what I'm saying about majority of this is there's no substantial evidence that supports any of these theories at all. I don't. I do not think that there's anything to the Romanian Angels thing at this moment. I don't think that there's, it is kind of a weird coincidence with the Miss Arizona thing and then them meeting in Israel at the same exact time. Kind of weird, but again, doesn't lead me to believe anything. I just had a weird gut feeling when I saw her on stage. And again, that maybe is just the, the muscle memory kicking in with her pageantry and the way that she was on Trump just seemed awkward and weird and like very forced, very photo oppy to me. Uh, I dunno, time will tell. A bunch of people are looking into it a hopefully, and, and you know, all likelihood is that she's a great person because Charlie wouldn't have married her if that wasn't the case. Some people just come off super genuine and some people don't know how to go in front of a crowd like that without, you know, turning on a different mask. Uh, and I'm my gut feeling she's probably a great person and she also probably is used to being in a pageant and has those muscle memories when she gets on the stage and speaks in front of millions of people. That's what makes sense to me. All of that being said, this whole thing's weird guys. It stinks. There's something going on here. There's more than what they're telling us. We need to figure it out. Is it Israel? Is it the us? Are they trying to stop somebody from speaking out and building a large organization of youth, right? The next 20 years from now, the people who are under 30 right now that are completely against Israel are gonna grow up and they're gonna be the next stage of politicians. And how easy are they gonna be bought off when they think Israel is the literal state of the devil? Right. So something weird are going on here. Never let a good crisis go to waste. That's what we're seeing with Pam Bondi and Freedom of Speech, right? That's what we're seeing with the Shock test with Jimmy Kimmel, and we still don't know what's gonna come out from Cash Patel, but I'm glad that he addressed all of those points. Again. All that being said, thank you for being here. I'm excited to go down this journey with you and continue to bring you the truth. Continue to call out things where I see fit and I will see you next time right here on the Adams Archive. Thank you Adams Archive.

Lionel and his callers dissect two major controversies. First, we investigate the death of Charlie Kirk, examining strange details like the accused shooter getting a Blizzard at a Dairy Queen just 15 minutes after the event, theories of multiple shooters, and redacted FBI video and then, the focus shifts to the shocking announcement linking Tylenol (acetaminophen) to rising autism rates. Is this warning a strategic "limited hangout"—an admission of a minor truth to conceal the messier, long-running debate over vaccines? We analyze why experts like RFK Jr. and Dr. Oz are focusing on Tylenol instead of vaccine preservatives. Lionel asks the crucial question: why do people ignore evidence that challenges the official narrative? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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In this NBN episode, host Hollay Ghadery speaks with Susan Glimore about her wonderful novel, The Curious Calling of Leonard Bush (Blair, 2025).  Young Leonard Bush buries his lost leg and saves his whole East Tennessee town in this winsome and miracle-making novel. When twelve-year-old Leonard Bush loses his leg in a freak accident, he decides to give his leg a proper burial in the hilltop cemetery of his East Tennessee town. This event somehow sets off a chain of miraculous and catastrophic events--upending the lives of Leonard's rigidly God-fearing mother, June; his deeply conflicted father, Emmett; and his best friend, Azalea, and her mother, Rose, who is also the town prostitute. While the local Baptist minister passes judgment on events and promises dire consequences, the people of this small community on the banks of Big Sugar move together toward awakening. Susan Gilmore's love of storytelling flows naturally from her Tennessee roots. She's the daughter of a revival preacher's son, brought up on the land and streams that populate this novel that is, as Appalachian novelist Lee Smith says, a "homespun Pilgrim's Progress." Susan Gregg Gilmore is the author of the novels The Curious Calling of Leonard Bush, Looking for Salvation at the Dairy Queen, The Improper Life of Bezellia Grove, and The Funeral Dress. She has written for the Chattanooga Times Free Press, the Los Angeles Times, and the Christian Science Monitor. Born in Nashville, she lives in Tennessee with her husband. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/new-books-network

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  This week on That Don't Sound Right, Peter and Cecil unpack a grab bag of wild headlines and curious stories. The hosts set up the conversation with Florida Man tales, the stereotypical story where a man in Florida ends up in a crazy situation. This week how ever is the spotlight is on the NC Man. Starting with a Surry County election official accused of slipping narcotic-laced pills into his granddaughter's Dairy Queen ice cream, to a Thomasville man juggling three marriages, the news is stranger than fiction.  That Don't Sound Right is a podcast about talking the way we did before the internet — a conversation-driven show where facts take a back seat to curiosity, storytelling, and a good laugh. If it sounds right to you, drop us a comment and join the conversation #ThatDontSoundRight #TDSRpodcast #PodcastLife #WeirdNews #FloridaMan #SmallTownStories #StrangerThanFiction #NostalgiaVibes #StorytellingPodcast #LocalHeadlines #PayphoneRevival #BeforeTheInternet #CuriosityDriven #EverydayOddities   Connect with us:

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In this kickoff to Season 4, Ophira Eisenberg is joined by Broadway veterans turned podcasters David FM Vaughn and Gavin Lodge, hosts of The Gaytriarchs. The dads share how their show began almost as a “you're a gay dad, I'm a gay dad, let's talk” experiment, and how it's evolved into 113 episodes, complete with recurring jokes like referring to their audience as “our listener.” They talk about the strange intimacy of podcasting, meeting each other's kids for the first time only after years of recording together, and the moments that nearly made them quit—until a fan's oddly specific comment kept them going. The conversation spans their careers pivoting from Broadway to TV writing and arts advocacy, the realities of raising kids via surrogacy, and the endless cycle of coming out in playgrounds, school forms, and even Dairy Queen drive-throughs. There are tangents about LaGuardia airport feeling like a spa, the economics of summer camp, and the universal awkwardness of “the talk.” The episode ends, fittingly, with Gavin recalling his daughter casually outing him to a car full of teens before they all nodded in recognition and said, “Oh, my mom used a surrogate too.”

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