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Most of the folks who live on Langdon Street along Madison’s Lake Mendota are short-timers: students or young professionals. But at Kennedy Manor, on the corner of Langdon and Wisconsin Avenue, many residents have lived in the same apartment for decades – some for as long as 40 years. Jess Miller lives around the corner from Kennedy Manor. His curiosity led him to exploring what makes residents want to stay.
Welcome to another episode of our Milwaukee Legends Series, presented by the iconic Harley-Davidson, a committed partner not only to this podcast, but to our local and global communities. The Milwaukee Legend Series has been presented in partnership with Harley-Davidson's 2024 Homecoming Celebration. This episode features Milwaukee legend Beth Weirick, CEO of Milwaukee Downtown - Business Improvement District 21. My conversation with Beth reveals her deep personal connection and nostalgia for Milwaukee. From her memories of Sunday drives in a wood-paneled station wagon with her family to riding the number 10 bus downtown as a teenager, Beth gives us genuine joy and pride in seeing downtown Milwaukee's transformation from a place where "you could roll a bowling ball down Wisconsin Avenue" to today's vibrant community. Jump in to learn more about your city and the people that make it great! Thanks for listening. Love you, Milwaukee.
It was exactly 60 years ago today that the Beatles came to play at the Milwaukee arena in front of 11,838 ecstatic fans! September 4, 1964, the Beatles were at the height of their fame at this point and their arrival in Milwaukee was met with a frenzy of excitement. Once they arrived at the Coach House Inn on 19th and Wisconsin Avenue, the Beatles were quickly ushered inside where they held a press conference in the afternoon. John Lennon was unable to attend due to laryngitis. At the Beatles highly anticipated concert, the mostly female audience, was treated to an exciting lineup of warm-up acts. The night kicked off with the Bill Black Combo, then Clarence Fogman Henry, the Exciters, and finally, Jackie DeShannon rounded out the lineup. In a previous podcast, Jackie told of how she had to arrange her set to please the crowd. After the warmup acts, I thought the Beatles would be taking the stage. They were not in the building, and I had to stall for 15 minutes. The Beatles then put on a legendary performance at the Milwaukee arena. Their set in order included: I Saw Her Standing There You Can't Do That She Loves You If I Fell Roll Over Beethoven Can't Buy Me Love Things I Said Today Boys Hard Days Night Long Tall Sally The fans for the most part had behaved well up until the day the Beatles were scheduled to leave Milwaukee. They knew that they may never come back, so this was their last chance. The Beatles appearance in Milwaukee was a historic moment for the city, and the memories of that night still live on for those lucky enough to witness it. The impact of the Beatles' music continues to be felt to this day as they remain one of the most iconic and influential bands in music history.
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Pediatric Physical Therapy Podcast Volume 36, Issue 3, 2024 Creator: Pediatric Physical Therapy AN INTERVIEW WITH: Toby Long PhD, Department of Pediatrics, Center for Child and Human Development, Georgetown University, Washington DC, USA. “Inclusion, Participation, Belonging = Surviving, Thriving, Flourishing” Toby Long PhD tells podcast anchor Sarah Maxwell about the role physical therapists play in helping children with impairments participate in day-to-day life: the theme she addressed in her lecture to the Academy of Pediatric Physical Therapy for the prestigious Ann Van Sant Global Scientific Writing Lectureship, now documented in her Pediatric Physical Therapy article. Title: Inclusion, Participation, Belonging = Surviving, Thriving, Flourishing Author: Toby Long, PT, PhD, FAPTA Author affiliations: Department of Pediatrics, Center for Child and Human Development, Georgetown University, Washington, DC, USA Conflict of Interest Statement: The author declares no conflict of interest. Correspondence: Toby Long, 2115 Wisconsin Avenue, NW, Suite 600, Washington, DC 20007. Email: longt@georgetown.edu ABSTRACT Purpose: To share my perspectives on how pediatric physical therapists support children with disabilities and their families to maximize their potential to flourish. Key Points: Best practice supports the inclusion of people with disabilities in all aspects of society. Policy statements from governmental agencies, research universities, advocacy, and non- governmental organizations all support inclusion. The concept of belonging and how pediatric physical therapists can promote belonging is less familiar to pediatric physical therapists than that promote belonging. Key words: International perspectives, inclusion, participation, belonging inclusion and participation.
Lawe Street, between Taylor Street and Wisconsin Avenue, reopened Friday in downtown Kaukauna; 12 days after bricks fell from the façade of a building. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Eight years ago, local historian and writer John Gurda sat down with 88Nine to share stories from Milwaukee's neighborhoods. The idea for the series came after the release of Gurda's 2015 book, Milwaukee: City of Neighborhoods, which chronicles 37 contemporary portraits of Milwaukee's neighborhoods.With the weather warming and conditions ripe for exploring the city, we decided it was the ideal time to look back at this collection and share Gurda's very well-informed perspective on these well-known areas of Milwaukee. We've taken you from the south end of town to the east side and then swung around to the north. Now, we wrap things up out west with the most colorfully named neighborhood of the bunch: Piggsville.In addition to its curious moniker, this is probably the most isolated of Milwaukee's neighborhoods. In fact, you've probably driven past — or through it — without even knowing.Piggsville is nestled in the northeast corner of where the stadium freeway and I-94 meet. The interstate accounts for its southern border, Wisconsin Avenue marks its northernmost point, and it only stretches as far east as 39th street. This tiny chunk of Milwaukee has just 11 streets — and seven of them are dead ends.So what's the story behind this small neighborhood with a big (or, um, pig) name? How did it end up with that porcine label? And why do most of us refer to it as “The Valley” instead of its original name? Listen to get your answers from Gurda and to discover more about this hamlet.
Andrew Weiland and Arthur Thomas from BizTimes Media discuss the news of the week, including the city of Milwaukee issuing a new request for proposals for a vacant site at 401 W. Wisconsin Ave., just south of the convention center in downtown Milwaukee. Andrew shares his thoughts on what kind of development makes the most sense, what the city should avoid for the site and the prospects for a viable development to be proposed. Insider Story Spotlight:Q&A: Toppers new CEO talks leadership, growth strategyInpro plans expansion to Muskego HQBig StoryCity again seeks development proposals for long-vacant Wisconsin Avenue site
In the last few years, the Bethesda skyline has been transformed. Buildings now tower over Wisconsin Avenue at more than 20 stories tall. Elza Hisel-McCoy is Division Chief of Downcounty Planning at Montgomery County Planning and tells us this is just the start of development in Bethesda. Across the river, things are very different. The massive growth expected in Arlington County with the arrival of Amazon's HQ2 has been stymied by the pandemic. Kate Bates with the Arlington Chamber of Commerce tells us where the construction stands in Northern Virginia's tech corridor, ‘National Landing'.
In the last few years, the Bethesda skyline has been transformed. Buildings now tower over Wisconsin Avenue at more than 20 stories tall. Elza Heisel-McCoy is Division Chief of Downcounty Planning at Montgomery County Planning and tells us this is just the start. Across the river, things are very different. The massive growth expected in Arlington County with the arrival of Amazon's HQ2 has been stymied by the pandemic. Kate Bates with the Arlington Chamber of Commerce tells us where the construction stands in Northern Virginia's tech corridor, ‘National Landing'.
WCBU's On Deck has everything you need to know to start your day for Thursday, August 25th. You'll hear comments from Governor JB Pritzker and his Republican challenger Darren Bailey as they passed through central Illinois for an event focused on agriculture. Plus, hear about the improvements coming to Wisconsin Avenue.
We look at a Wisconsin Supreme Court decision that will impact who is allowed to possess a gun. Then during Period Poverty Awareness week, we learn what the Milwaukee Diaper Mission is doing to address the issue. We get tips on how to keep pests out of our yards, while encouraging pollinators. Plus, share the story of Gertie the duck: what she brought to the city and why she has her own statue on the Wisconsin Avenue bridge.
The Wendy's Big Show Hour Four: Sparky has some thoughts on the new mural of Giannis that was just finished on Wisconsin Avenue in downtown Milwaukee and also comes to the slight defense of broadcaster Hubie Brown. Also, he and Gary give their predictions for tonight's Game Four!
For decades, commercial real estate development in metro Milwaukee was the domain of white men – with a couple exceptions. That's changed in recent years as more minority developers are emerging. Milwaukee Business Journal's Rich Kirchen talked with fellow reporter Sean Ryan about his story on leading minority developers overcoming challenges to gain a foothold. Later, the western section of Wisconsin Avenue in downtown Milwaukee has languished for years with vacancies and the collapse of the Grand Avenue mall. The mall is being redeveloped as The Avenue opening this fall and the Wisconsin Center convention facility is undergoing a major expansion. Rich chats with leaders of both projects. For more information on some of the stories featured in today's episode, visit https://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/
Allison Jornlin is a leading haunted history researcher, Fortean researcher, and spooky history tour guide in Milwaukee, WI and we are excited to have had the chance to talk to her about her new Youtube Channel: Paranormal Women: A Hidden History. Check it out! https://www.youtube.com/c/ParanormalWomen "Each video recounts amazing stories from the life of a forgotten female trailblazer in parapsychology and paranormal research. Although there are many men who have made contributions, in general, their work is already well-known. My aim is to uncover tales you've never heard before. Female contributions are featured here because they’ve too often been relegated to obscurity. The object is to showcase works whose excellence triumphed over adversity and encourage you to read the featured books for yourself. There is so much left to learn." About Allison Allison Jornlin founded Milwaukee’s first haunted history tour in 2008. When she’s not teaching fourth graders at a local elementary school, she conducts ghost tours in the Third Ward and down Milwaukee’s haunted main street, Wisconsin Avenue. She assists businesses and paranormal investigation teams with in-depth historical research. As an admirer of anomalies researcher. www.milwaukeeghosts.com Radio Wasteland is a radio show and podcast that covers all topics mysterious to conspiratory, ranging from corrupt governments and cover-ups to UFO phenomenon and cryptozoology… and everything in between… and more importantly, everything beyond. Learn about the cast and crew at https://radiowasteland.us/about/ #RadioWasteland #AlisonJornlin #ParanormalWomen Follow Us at: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RadioWasteland.us/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/radiowasteland6 Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/Radio_wasteland/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/radiowasteland/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCacz6KvUCCTuMKg0rBkXdAA radio wasteland 2020 10 12 Interview
INTERVIEW - ROY RODMAN - owner of Rodman's Discount Food & Drug store (he's a second generation owner of Rodman's...it's a family owned business) TOPIC: Discuss how the pandemic has impacted his business and then how looting in the D.C. protests hurt his business ABOUT RODMAN'S: The Washington, D.C.-based chain Rodman’s Discount Food & Drug is a two-story location in D.C.’s Friendship Heights section runs the gamut from pharmacy services, housewares and gourmet specialty items to produce, wine and beer. Rodman’s is not your typical drugstore. In fact, the Washington Post has described the 25,000-square-foot D.C. location as “the weirdest little drugstore in Washington.” Despite the growth of national drugstore chains in the last few decades, Rodman’s has maintained its positioning as a neighborhood purveyor of prescription drugs and other merchandise for nearly 60 years. The first Rodman’s was opened on northwestern Wisconsin Avenue in 1955 by Leonard, who was a pharmacist. http://marketwatchmag.com/rodmans-discount-food-and-drug-november-2014/ ROY RODMAN wrote an op-ed in USA Today: "ROY RODMAN: Small business owner: The looters who broke into my store weren't protesting Floyd death My heart goes out to all those who haven't had a fair shake and are victims of violence. But I'm delighted the National Guard is in Washington. By Roy Rodman "...the people who broke in and looted my store had a completely different agenda than those who were protesting about violence. Looting is horrible for small businesses. In addition to the economic costs of lost product and destroyed property, you feel so violated..." https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/06/07/george-floyd-riots-protests-small-business-looted-destroyed-column/3158622001/ MORE ABOUT THE LOOTING OF RODMAN'S: https://wamu.org/story/20/06/02/damaged-d-c-shops-assess-dynamic-between-a-broken-window-and-a-lost-life/
A new home is coming for Marquette University’s College of Business Administration and innovation leadership programs. In a recent address, Marquette President Mike Lovell announced that the university will build in on a prominent location on the corner of 16th Street and Wisconsin Avenue, the former location of McCormick Hall. The plan calls for much more than new classrooms –– it will rethink the entire nature of an academic space – and how it integrates with campus and community. Guests: Dr. Joe Daniels, dean of the College of Business Tim McMahon, vice president for University Advancement Lora Strigens, vice president for planning and facilities management Geri "Nana" Fotsch, president of Fotsch Family Foundation Mike Lovell, president of Marquette University Lauren Burke, Marquette University executive producer
Bio Richard Lake is the founding Principal of Roadside Development. Roadside was formed 20 years ago as a Washington, DC-based development company, focused on the creation of retail and mixed-use environments. Roadside has become one of the leading experts in urban and town center development throughout the metropolitan Washington, DC region. "Passion is the emotion I am seeking on my team" Richard Lake Richard has been responsible for overall acquisition, entitlement, development, leasing, and property management of more than 25 million SF over the past three decades. Notable recent projects include City Ridge located at 3900 Wisconsin Avenue, NW which occupies 550 feet of frontage along Wisconsin Avenue NW, the site includes approximately 9.71 acres of land that is bound by a residential neighborhood to the south, Glover-Archbold Park to the west, and a private office building to the north; City Market at O & 880 P, a million square foot, urban infill project in the heart of the Shaw neighborhood in Washington DC, which spans two city blocks and features nearly 90,000 square feet of retail, 550 luxury rental apartments, 90 affordable senior rental units, a 182-room key hotel, a 500-car parking garage, and incorporates the historic preservation of the nationally registered landmark O Street Market; Stonebridge at Potomac Town Center, a 105-acre mixed-use retail town center and residential community in Woodbridge, Virginia; and Cityline at Tenley, which preserved and transformed an abandoned historic Sears building into an award-winning mixed-use project that attracted Washington, DC’s first Best Buy and Container Store retailers while also incorporating a contemporary addition of 204 luxury condominium units. His talent for working with development teams and optimizing a project’s full value potential throughout all stages of the real estate cycle is one of his greatest assets. He has also served as a consultant on several real estate projects throughout the country, with an expertise in place-making, by creating successful retail environments and public spaces that amenitize and enhance residential, commercial, and cultural uses to become vibrant mixed-use communities. He is a native Washingtonian and have been an active member of the business community for over 30 years. Prior to co-founding Roadside Development, Richard was the founding partner of The Retail Group and led Madison Retail Group, a full-service retail brokerage firm that was the dominant leader in the DC and Mid-Atlantic markets. He began his career in real estate as a broker with Smithy Braedon ONCOR International. He is a graduate of Boston University. Richard currently serves on the board of directors for several non-profit and economic development organizations, including Co-Chair of the Washington DC Economic Partnership, Iona Senior Services (also previously President of the Board), Executive Committee Member for DCBIA, Developers Roundtable of DCBIA, Prince William County Economic Advisory Board and Trustee of Federal City Council, Member of Children’s National Real Estate Committee. He is also a member of ULI and ICSC.
Have you heard of kefir? It's an amazing probiotic drink that offers vitamins, minerals, metabolites, enzymes, amino acids, peptides and more to help sustain and regain health. Victor Cozzetto, of Vitagenics, explores the wonders of this ancient drink on today's episode. He discusses gut health (and how kefir can help repair the gut lining), the importance of a holistic mindset when it comes to healing, why it's better to get bacteria from our food and drink (as opposed to a pill) and why making kefir is so very satisfying and gratifying. If you're new to kefir, this podcast offers a sweet introduction to the drink. If you love it already, you'll find more reasons to do so. Visit Victor's website: vitagenics.net Check out our sponsor: Ancestral Supplements Give a gift to WAPF here: westonaprice.org Write a note to WAPF: The Weston A. Price Foundation PMB 106-380 4200 Wisconsin Avenue, NW Washington, DC 20016 USA
Twenty-seven percent of Americans have sleep issues. What keeps us tossing and turning or waking up and having trouble falling back asleep? Today, Dylan Petkus, of Optimal Circadian Health, helps us analyze our sleep patterns and troubleshoot the issues. What keeps us awake? For starters, anxiety. Blue light that suppresses melatonin function. A poor sleep environment. And more. To improve our sleep quality, Dylan talks about the importance of circadian rhythm, mitochondria, environment, and mindset. And he offers concrete take-aways to help us rediscover the benefits of deep, restorative sleep. Visit Dylan's website: optimalcircadianhealth.com Check out our sponsor Ancestral Supplements: ancestralsupplements.com Give a gift to WAPF here: westonaprice.org Write a note to WAPF: The Weston A. Price Foundation PMB 106-380 4200 Wisconsin Avenue, NW Washington, DC 20016 USA
Al McGuire wanted to do something for the kids of Children’s Hospital of Wisconsin. The legendary Marquette coach felt a special connection to the children and families that were receiving care at the local hospital. So he started a race to benefit the hospital that started at Marquette’s campus and runs through downtown Milwaukee. Today, Brigg’s and Al’s Walk and Run has been a Milwaukee tradition for more than 40 years. Each year, thousands of participants line up on Wisconsin Avenue on Marquette University’s campus to walk or run in support of Children’s Hospital of Wisconsin. The event is a critical fundraiser for Children’s but it’s also a day for families and the community to come together to support and celebrate the children in their lives. Today, we’ll find out why Brigg’s and Al’s Walk and Run is named for the legendary Marquette figure, how Marquette and Children’s have worked together over the years, and what the race means to Milwaukee.
Content note: animal abuse, murder, rape, sexual violence, torture, necrophilia, child molestation, drug use and misuse, cannibalism, gross details of so many things, sanism, and ableism. Photo: Dahmer's sketch of his body altar, courtesy of Oxygen. Even thought part one wasn't even an hour, I wanted to be rid of Dahmer as quickly as humanly fucking possible, y'all. So, part 2 is almost two hours long... but we don't have to talk about it anymore. This episode starts right as he moves into the notorious apartment on North 25th Street. For the early stuff, make sure to listen to the first episode. Resources Wiki Biography Crime Museum Inside the Mind of Jeffrey Dahmer: Serial Killer’s Chilling Jailhouse Interview 1991 Vanity Fair piece Jeffrey Dahmer Trial Victim Impact Statement Highlights (video) 5 Of The Most Shocking Moments From The Jeffrey Dahmer Trial 9 Mind-Blowing Quotes Made By Serial Killer Jeffrey Dahmer Dahmer on Dahmer Sneak Peek from Oxygen 2 Servicemen Reveal Their Stories Of Being Sexually Abused By Jeffrey Dahmer These Are The Chilling Crime Scene Photos From Jeffrey Dahmer's Apartment Stone Phillips interview Murderous Minds: Inside Serial Killers S1E7 on Amazon Prime All the other links I said I'd include Study Shows Mentally Ill More Likely to Be Victims, Not Perpetrators, of Violence True Crime Obsessed - Episode 40: Kidnapped For Christ Bruce McArthur (Toronto serial killer)How alleged Toronto serial killer Bruce McArthur went unnoticed Toronto serial killer destroyed gay safe space Grad student claims she tipped off police to serial killer a year ago The sad predictability of Toronto’s alleged serial killer Patreon poll Transcription Welcome back to the Spooky Sconine podcast. This is the podcast that covers everything that is paranormal, criminal, spooky and just plain weird from the state of Wisconsin. This is the second episode in the Jeffrey Dahmer Series. If you haven't listened to the first one, go back and catch that because there are going to be some things I talk about in here that I explained in the first episode. And also like you wouldn't watch the last half of the movie, right? Like, go listen to the first one. ----more---- When we last left Jeffrey Dahmer, he had just convinced a judge he was going to change his ways after molesting a child. Let's rejoin him a year later, shall we? On May 14th, 1990 Dahmer moves out of his grandmother's house where he had had to move back into it, because of the molestation charge and having just gotten out of jail and all that jazz. He moves into apartment 213 at 924 north 25th street and takes any momentos he'd kept from his previous victims, including the mummified head and genitals of Anthony Sears. Within one week of moving into his new apartment, he had already killed his sixth victim. Raymond Smith was a 32 year old sex worker who Dahmer lured to his apartment with the promise of $50 in exchange for sex at the apartment. He gave Smith a drink laced with seven sleeping pills and manually strangled him. The following day, Dahmer purchased a Polaroid camera with which he took several pictures of Smith's body in suggestive positions before dismembering him in the bathroom. This all becomes a very major part of his M.O. and, with very few exceptions, this is what he tends to do with the rest of his victims from here on out. He boils the legs and arms and also the pelvis in a steel kettle with Soilex, which allows him to then rinse the bones off in his sink. He dissolves the remainder of Smith's skeleton with the exception the skull in a container filled with acid. Dahmer later spray paints Smith's skull, and he places it alongside the skull of Anthony Sears upon a black towel inside a metal filing cabinet. About a week later - and it's on or about May 27th - Dahmer lures a young man to his apartment but he fucks up. Um, you know how he spikes the drink, right? He'll go and he'll be like, "oh, I'm going to make us a drink." And then he sneaks the sleeping pills into the one drink. Well, just this one time he forgets which drink is which and drinks the laced drink himself. He wakes up the next day and his intended victim stole a bunch of his close $300 and a watch. He doesn't report this to police, natch. You know, when you have like a severed head hadn't genitals, you don't report this. On May 29th, though, he does share that he'd been robbed with his probation officer because, remember, he's also still on probation, you know, for molesting a kid. In June of 1990 he brings a 27 year old acquaintance to the apartment named Edward Smith. He drugs and strangles Smith and instead of just immediately acidifying the skeleton or going through his normal process, he actually puts Smith's skeleton in his freezer for several months because he thought maybe it wouldn't retain as much moisture, which like from a scientific background, bruh, no, this is not going to work. Obviously it didn't work and then he acidified the body like later on. He'd destroyed the skull on accident because he placed it in the oven to dry and it exploded. It exploded! Later, he told police that he felt 'rotten' about Smith's murder since he didn't get to keep anything from the body. Less than three months later he meets a 22 year old Chicago native named Ernest Miller on the corner of north 27th street. Miller agrees to company Dahmer to his apartment for $50 and then is like, oh, you want to listen to my heart and stomach? Okay. Dahmer decides, 'mm, since I'm here I might as well try to suck your dick.' And Miller says, 'you know what, that's going to cost you extra.' So that's when Dahmer goes and grabs the drinks. He only had two sleeping pills to put in Miller's drink though. So he is out for a very short amount of time and when he wakes up suddenly in the middle of Dahmer doing stuff to him, Dahmer kills him by slashing his carotid artery and he does this with the same knife he uses to dissect the victims bodies. So it's a knife he really has taken time to like sharpen and make sure it's in the best possible form, which to be honest, is kind of a godsend in this type of a situation because I'd rather have something sharp nick my carotid and die quickly then try to have someone use like a very dull knife to do that. He bleeds to death within minutes, but not before Dahmer grabs his Polaroid camera and is like taking pictures of Miller dying and bleeding out. He puts Miller's body in the bathtub for dismemberment after he does the sex to it. While he is dismembering the rest of the body, he takes time to like kiss Miller's face and talk to him, which everything I read was really um, happy to point that out with this victim. But I'm pretty sure if you're going to do it to one victim, you probably do it to most victims. And let's be real. How many of us don't talk to random stuff when we're doing things? Like I talk to random stuff all the time, like, 'hey, cherry coke, how you doing? I'm going to put you in my mouth.' Um, which I am, but like, you know, I cannot be the only other person who does this and also isn't a serial killer. That's all I'm saying. He wraps Miller's heart, Miller's biceps, and parts of his legs in plastic bags and puts them in the fridge so he can eat them later. He boils the rest of the flesh and organs, and they turned into this jelly like substance because again he's using that Soilex and he wanted to keep the skeleton. So he rinses it off, puts the bones in this light bleach solution for 24 hours and then allows them to dry like, like you would with dishes, right. Um, and this is all stuff that his father had taught him to do - by the way. The severed head was initially placed in the refrigerator before being stripped of flesh and then painted and coated with an enamel, which is a smart move because at least it won't get as brittle as the other ones that he's had to discard at this point. He's learning. Three weeks after murdering Ernest Miller, on September 24th, Dahmer meets a 22 year old man named David. Thomas at the Grand Avenue Mall. It's a mall, but it's like weird because it's set up between several buildings and then there's like skywalks and like I, I was there like a decade ago going through the mall and being like, what the fuck is this place? It's weird. Anyway. It's not like Ye Grand Mall, okay? It's, it's a weird mall. Anyway, Dahmer persuades Thomas to come to the apartment for a few drinks and again with his MO of picking up people who are down on their luck or people who are sex workers. He offers money for nude photographs. Dahmer would later state that after giving Thomas a drink full of sedatives, he felt bad because he realized all of a sudden he wasn't attracted to Thomas, but he was still afraid to allow him to wake up in case he would have been angry about being drugged. So he decides to go through with strangling and dismembering. Since he wasn't attracted to Thomas, though, he intentionally doesn't keep body parts. He does take photographs throughout the dismemberment process and keeps them and honestly that's part of what led them to being able to identify this victim as being David Thomas. So, as creepy as it is that he took photographs - he didn't remember people's names, he probably didn't know many names - and these photographs at least allowed us to find the victim's families and let them know what had happened. I can't believe I'm saying I'm kind of grateful for these photographs. Jesus Christ. Um, okay. He doesn't kill anyone for like five months. He tries to bring a couple of guys back to his apartment during that time period. But like, you know, it just wasn't happening. So he takes all of that creative energy, you know, that you use when you do the same thing over and over again to dead bodies and starts planning the altar he wants in his apartment. And this is really interesting because it's got like different sets set ups. So he wanted this black shower curtain behind the altar, um, and was going to put that in front of a window. And then, um, I'll put a link in the show notes because this is wild. So on either side he's got skeletons that have been painted. And then there's a black table where he has the skulls that he's saved that have been painted. And then there's like one of those funky lights that has like several different bulb things coming down behind that in front of the window. And then he has like a little plaque above the window and a chair set up in front of the altar so that, you know, he could, uh, sit there and look at it. It's so creepy. He is also known to regularly complain of anxiety and depression to his probation officer throughout this time. And you know, talks a lot about being gay, being alone, not having a lot of money. And this is when he also starts talking about feeling suicidal. He was really careful if you think about it to select victims on the fringe of society. They were often itinerant or criminal or even criminal by association. They were children at times or even slightly older people, not too old, but still. And often he went after, men who were not white. Um, his first two victims were white. But I think the bulk of the rest of them are Black, Hispanic, Native American/Indigenous, and Asian. Like he picks people who are not white on a regular basis. And this actually led, once he's captured, to a lot of racial tension in Milwaukee, which is consistently battling with St Louis to be one the most segregated cities in the United States. Like whatever one is number one, the other one is either number two or three like it. They are consistently in the top three. Um, and just because it's 2019 doesn't mean that's changed a ton. I gotta tell Ya. In February of 1991, he observes a 17 year old named Curtis Straughter standing at a bus stop near Marquette University. He brings Straughter back to his apartment again with the idea of giving him money in exchange for nude photos. And he's also like, 'Hey, I'll pay you to do the sex.' Dahmer drugs and and strangles Straughter with a leather strap. Then dismembers him and keeps his skull, hands, and genitals. The head is put in the freezer along with several other heads at this point. On April 7th, he meets 19 year old Errol Lindsey who iss walking to get a key cut. Now Lindsey was straight, but Dahmer somehow gets him back to his apartment, drugs him, and this is where he starts his major experiment to try to zombify his victims because remember, he doesn't necessarily want them dead - and he later says this in interviews - but he wants them to not leave him. And what's the best way to get someone to not leave is to have complete control of them. And if somebody is in a Zombie like state, you can do that a lot easier then, uh, you can with just keeping them bound, especially in a safe way too. So, after being drugged, uh, Lindsey winds up with a hole in his skull - Dahmer drills a hole in and he pours hydrochloric acid right into Lindsay's brain. Lindsay wakes up, um, and says, 'I have a headache. What time is it?' He then collapses on the floor and, um, just keeps holding his head. At this point, Dahmer drugs him again and strangles him because he's like, well, this didn't work. He decapitates Lindsey, keeps his skull, flays the body, and actually places his skin in this solution of cold water and salt AKA like a brine for several weeks because he wanted to keep it. But of course that doesn't work. Um, so he tosses it eventually. At this point his apartment smells like awfulness and the other residents in the Oxford apartment building are continually like repeatedly complaining to management about foul smells, about falling objects, about hearing a chainsaw, etc. The manager Sopa Princewill contacts Dahmer in response to these complaints several times. Although Dahmer initially excuses the odors because he's like, 'aw, my freezer keeps breaking. And the, you know, the stuff inside got spoiled.' 'Oh my tropical fish just died. So they're kind of smelly and I haven't had a chance to like clean everything out,' et cetera. But we'll come back to his neighbors cause it will get wild. Anthony Hughes is a friend of Dahmer's and he's Deaf and mute. Um, so he can't hear and he can't speak. He communicates by signing with his hands and also by lip reading for people who don't know how to sign back to him. They are hanging out somewhere else when Dahmer's like, 'hey, you want to hang out at my house?' So they go back to the house, he drugs Hughes, drills a hole in a skull, and injects acid like he previously tried. But this time - and I'm not sure if it's because of the volume or the location of where he drilled - um, the injection winds up killing Hughes and Dahmer gets really sad about that. Like, he didn't want to kill his friend, he just wanted to keep him around and um, he gets really depressed. Like, I don't know... If you don't want to kill your friend, maybe don't do stuff that could kill your friend? That's all I'm saying. That's why I don't text and drive with friends in my car - only on my own. Um, he leaves Anthony's body to rot on his bedroom floor before dissolving it in acid several days later. And actually his body comes into play in this extremely close call I'm about to talk about. On the afternoon of May 26th in 1991, he meets a 14 year old kid on Wisconsin Avenue. The kid's name is Konerak and I cannot pronounce the last name because I am so white. Um, I'm going to try [failes miserably several times] Sinthasomphone. Um, I'm just going to keep calling him Konerak because I don't want to mess up his name several times. Um, he approaches Konerak and is like, 'Hey, I'll give you money for pictures.' And the kid's like, 'okay.' Um, actually the kid's really reluctant at first and then comes with him. He poses for two pictures in his underwear before Dahmer drugs him. Um, while he's drugged, he performs oral sex on this kid. And it's important to note this kid is actually the younger brother of the boy Dahmer molested in 1988 and was convicted of molesting after the kid had to go get his stomach pumped, um, from being drugged. And you know, the kid didn't know that Dahmer was that guy. He didn't remember. This is a couple years later. Um, but Dahmer also doesn't recognize kind of the familial resemblance. Um, it's not until quite a long ways later that they figure this out. But while Konerak is drugged, Dahmer drills a hole in his skull and injects hydrochloric acid right into the frontal lobe - o the front of your head. Before Konerak falls unconscious, Dahmer leads him into the bedroom where Anthony Hughes' body is sitting on the floor naked. And Dahmer says that he believed Konerak saw the body, but Konerak didn't react to it, which is probably because of a mixture of being really sedated and then also, I don't know, having acid in your brain. Soon, Konerak passes out. Dahmer drinks several beers while sitting there next to him and then is pretty sure that the experiment has failed again. He is really upset. So, now that he's out of alcohol, he decides he's going to go drink at a bar and then buy alcohol and come back and he's gone for a few hours. Konerak manages to not only wake up but to escape despite being injured and being incredibly out of it. Um, this kid was a bad ass. Dahmer's neighbor Sandra Smith calls police to report that there's an Asian boy running naked in the street and it's the early hours of the next day when Dahmer comes back to his apartment and he is greeted by Konerak sitting naked on the corner of 25th and state speaking in Lao - cause he he's Laotian - with three distressed, uh, young ish women standing near him. He approaches the trio and explains that Konerak - he uses a fake name by the way - was his friend and tries to get him back into the apartment, but the women are like, 'oh no, no, no, motherfucker. We called 911.' So, 2 officers show up - John Balcerzak and Joseph Gabrish. Dahmer is like really relaxed and he knows he's got to put on a show. So he tells the officers that Konerak who was 14 was his 19 year old boyfriend who had had too much to drink after they fought. And that he just acts like this a lot when he's drunk. The three women were like, 'Excuse the fuck out of me. Do you see that this kid is like actively bleeding from his ass and that he doesn't want to go anywhere with Dahmer? And like, this kid has been hurt.' The officers tell her to butt out, shut the hell up, and not to interfere in this "domestic situation." So the officers have a towel with them, they wrap Konerak up in it and bring him back to Dahmer's apartment. They do try to verify the claim that Dahmer and Konerak lovers. So Dahmer shows them like these pictures he'd just taken of the kid along with his neatly folded clothing - because if he was a victim, why would he fold his clothing, et cetera. The officers later report having noted a strange smell that kind of smelled like shit, um, inside the apartment. And clearly it was coming from Hughes' decomposing body. Dahmer stated that to investigate this, one of the officer's peeked his head around in the bedroom, but he clearly didn't take good look because he missed the body on the floor. The officers leave and tell Dahmer to take good care of Konerak. The thing is, had these officers done their due diligence and at least run a background check, um, like run Dahmer through their system? They would have seen that he was a convicted child molester and on probation. Um, and probably would have investigated this more deeply, especially since this kid is clearly a kid. Like I know it might be hard to tell whether someone's 14 or 19, but I think when you add the layer on that he's a convicted sex offender, that that gets less difficult. The cops leave and Dahmer's like, 'okay, time for round two.' He injects hydrochloric acid right into the frontal lobe again and um, kills Konerak. He takes the next day off of work to devote the entire day to dismembering the bodies of both Konerak and Hughes, and he keeps their skulls. Within a few days, there's an article that appears in the local paper about Konerak being missing and one of the women who had tried to protect him that night calls the police to tell them that like this was that kid. The police don't follow up with her at all. So we've had two spots right here where women - and probably honestly Black women - are saying like, 'Hey, this is this guy. This is what he's doing. Hello.' And police failed to investigate throughout this, this like giant murder period, right? Dahmer is able to maintain his job at Ambrosia Chocolate Factory. His friends and family weren't really suspicious even when they came to his house cause he would take care to really clean up before he let people come over. If he knew his family was coming, you know, he'd clean up, et cetera. The only thing that his father was suspicious of is, you know, Dahmer hasn't revealed that he's gay. By now, Lionel is like, 'yeah he gay - probably,' but they don't talk about it because toxic masculinity. To quell the neighbors, Dahmer by now has had a 57 gallon drum put in his apartment that he's filled with hydrochloric acid. So this way he's able to like dissolve bodies right away - very quickly - and has multiple ways of doing so, meaning less smell at this point. He also knows he needs to change things up a bit because that was really close call with Konerak. So he decides to take a Greyhound bus - cause he doesn't drive - to Chicago, which is about, well on a greyhound bus it's probably closer to three hours of a trip. You can make it in like an hour and a half depending on how fast you're going. That's all I'll say. On June 30th he meets a 20 year old named Matt Turner at the bus station. Turner is like, 'okay, I'll come with you to Milwaukee' because Dahmer has convinced him that he is a professional photographer and is going to have a photo shoot. At Dahmer's apartment, he drugs, strangles, and dismembers Turner, placing his head and internal organs in separate plastic bags in the freezer. Everything else was put into a vat of acid. Turner winds up not ever being reported missing. Five days later on July 5th, he lures a 23 year old - mm, I've seen his name either as Jeremy or Jeremiah. I'm going to go with Jeremiah - Jeremiah Weinberger from a Chicago bar to his apartment to spend the weekend with him. Before accepting the offer, Jeremiah asked a friend who he was at the bar with if the friend thought Dahmer was a safe person and that this would be okay. And the friend was like, 'okay, yeah, no, he seems really nice' - like after having a conversation. The two actually wind up having a really nice couple of days, um, until Weinberger's like, 'hey, I really got to go home. Like I have to go to work and shit.' And of course that's the part Dahmer hates. So he drugs Weinberger after requesting one last drink together. He twice injects boiling water into Weinberger's skull. The first time it didn't seem to work at all and Weinberger wakes up seemingly okay. Dahmer drugs him a second time and does the second injection that sends him into a coma and he actually dies 2 days later. During this kind of waiting period. Dahmer's like, 'okay, I'll go to work. Like, it's fine.' Even after that close call, which I think is brazen. Um, and he comes home after a shift to discover Weinberger dead. The body is dismembered and dissolved an acid, but the head is added to the growing collection in the freezer. The friend who greenlit Weinberger's visit to Dahmer's place later commit suicide because he feels hella guilty. I know what you're thinking right now. Uh, with all of these heads and body parts in the freezer, Dahmer was running outta room, right? He was. Like, honestly, he had no room for real food in his fridge or his freezer. Um, that really didn't stop him. On July 15th, he meets 24 year old Oliver Lacy at the corner of 27th and Kilburn. Lacy was an aspiring body builder and had just moved to Milwaukee from Illinois to live with his girlfriend and their kid. And Dahmer was like, 'Ooh, I like the muscle boys.' So, again, the proposition of posing nude and Lacy agrees. He goes back to Dahmer's apartment and they do some sexy times before Dahmer drugs him. Dahmer really wanted to spend as much time as possible with Lacy while Lacy was alive. So he tries to render Lacy unconscious with chloroform, which does not work. He has to strangle Lacy. And then, um, he has sex with the corpse before dismembering him. He placed Lacy's head and heart in the refrigerator and his skeleton in the freezer. And he had asked for like a days absence during all of this from work, which was granted, but then he was suspended because he kept missing work, right? And then his performance was getting shit. And on the 19th, he actually gets word that he's fired. He doesn't get to come to work anymore and he's distraught, he's pissed. And he goes to bar and approaches 25 year old father of three, Joseph Bradehoft. Like many other victims, he promised cash in exchange for nude photos. Bradehoft was strangled and left laying on Dahmer's bed covered with a sheet for two days. And on the 21st he removes the sheets to find Bradehoft's head covered in maggots. It's gross. He decapitates the body then cleans the head and places it in the refrigerator - which like, brah, that just had maggots - like, why? He later acidifies Bradehoft's torso along with those of the other two victims he killed within the previous month - so along with Lacy's body and Weinberg's. So that's kind of the end of his lucky streak. On July 22nd, 1991, he approaches three men with an offer of $100 to accompany him to his apartment to pose nude for photographs again. Um, but he throws in like, 'Hey, I've got a bunch of beer we can drink and we could just hang out.' Out of the trio, one of them agrees to come to the apartment and that's 32 year old Tracy Edwards. The other two agree to come party later, but Dahmer gives them the wrong address so they don't interrupt his fun. Upon entering Dahmer's apartment, Edwards notices it smells and also sees the acid on the floor. And he asks about it and Dahmer's like, 'Oh yeah, like I do Xyz for work. I use those to clean bricks.' Dahmer keeps pressuring Edwards to get naked and drink a spiked drink and he quickly changes from the sweet talker Dahmer from the bar to very pushy and angry. Edward's decides he probably should leave, and Dahmer distracts him and put a handcuff on his wrist. By the time Edwards is like, 'wait, what's happening?' Um, Dahmer brings Edwards to the bedroom to pose for nude pictures. While inside the bedroom, Edwards notes that there's nude male posters on the wall and that there is a video tape of The Exorcist III playing. This was Dahmer's favorite movie at the time and especially during those last couple of weeks - he got increasingly obsessed with it for some reason, nobody knows. Edwards also notes that 57 gallon drum in the corner that smells. Dahmer brandishes a knife and informs Edwards he intends to take nude photos of him. So Edwards unbuttons his shirt and says he would allow him to do that as long as he takes off the handcuffs and puts the knife away. In response to the promise, Dahmer simply just turns his attention towards the TV. Edwards sees Dahmer rocking back and forth and chanting before turning his attention back to Edwards. He places his head on Edwards' chest, listens to his heartbeat, and then with the knife pressed up towards his neck says that he intends to eat Edwards' heart. Edwards repeatedly says, 'you know, I'm your friend. I'm not going to go away. I promise. Like you don't have to worry, you don't need to attack me.' In his head, Edwards had already decided he was going to have to jump from a window or bolt through the unlocked front door at the next opportunity he had. Edwards says he needs to go to the bathroom and then he asks if they could sit with a beer in the living room because that's where the air conditioning unit was. And Dahmer agrees. So the pair walk to the living room. As soon as Edwards is done in the potty, inside the living room, Edwards waits until he observes that Dahmer has a momentary lapse of concentration. And then he asks to use the bathroom again. So Edwards gets up from the couch, saw that Dahmer was not holding onto the handcuffs, and he turns & punches Dahmer in the face - which knocked him off balance - and Edwards bolts for the front door. By about 1130 - and this is on July 22nd - he has flagged down 2 Milwaukee police officers at the corner of North 25th Street. Um, it took a while for them to understand this was not a domestic thing, but they did notice that he had handcuffs on his wrist. Um, and Edwards explains to them that a "freak," that's what he said, had placed the handcuffs on him and asked if the police could remove them. The police officers try but their keys failed to fit that brand. So Edwards, um, agrees to show the officers where this apartment was that he just spent, you know, several hours and they go. Dahmer invites the three people inside and acknowledges that yeah, he did put handcuffs on Edwards, but he says nothing about why - not a thing. And normally he's so quick with those explanations. At this point, Edwards also tells the officers Dahmer had brandished a very large knife and that this had happened in the bedroom. Dahmer says nothing about that. And he tells one of the officers that the key to the handcuffs was in his bedside dresser in the bedroom. So that officer goes to enter the bedroom. Dahmer tries to kind of block him to get the key himself. And the second officer tells him to back the fuck off. In the bedroom, [Officer] Muller notices that there is indeed a large knife beneath the bed. He also sees an open drawer which, upon closer inspection, contains tons of Polaroid pictures... Not only of naked dudes, but also of, like, the dismemberment process. He notes that the decor in the photos is the same as the apartment that they are in right now. He walks in the living room and shows them to his partner Robert Rauth and says, uh, these are real. When Dahmer sees that Muller's holding several of the Polaroids, he starts fisticuffs with the officers to try to resist arrest. They quickly overpower him, cuff his hands behind his back, and call a second squad car for backup. At this point, Muller is, um, you know, looking around, doing more investigating and opens the refrigerator to reveal the freshly severed head of a black man sitting on the bottom shelf. He's later recalls that he heard someone screaming before realizing that it was him. Like he was screaming himself. Dahmer is pinned on the floor by Rauth and he turns his head towards the officers and mutters the words "for what I did, I should be dead." Uh, yeah. Well, Edwards is deemed a hero. The publicity also is a negative thing for him. It helps the state of Mississippi catch up with him. They had a warrant out for his arrest due to sexually assaulting a 14 year old girl. Um, at least allegedly. He's arrested and charged with a crime, but I can't find anything about the outcome. I tried. By 2011, he is back in Milwaukee. He is homeless and he gets into a fight with two other homeless men, one of whom falls off of a bridge that they are on and drowns. Edwards winds up with time in prison and probation for, um, like aiding and abetting because - Well, one of the things that I saw said the guy just fell off. The other thing that I saw said the other guy pushed him off and then Edwards stayed quiet. And so that's why he got charged. I don't know. I don't know. But that shit's gone down. Back to Dahmer in 1991. A more detailed search at the apartment conducted by the Criminal Investigation Bureau reveals a total of four severed heads in Dahmer's kitchen. There are seven skulls - some painted, some bleached - in his bedroom and inside a closet. They discover collected blood drippings upon a tray at the bottom of Dahmer's fridge because apparently motherfucker does not clean that shit out. They also find 2 human hearts, part of an arm muscle, and those are all wrapped inside plastic bags on the shelves. In Dahmer's freezer, they discover an entire torso - plus a bag of human organs and flesh is stuck to the ice at the bottom of the freezer. [humorous wretching noises] They also discovered two skeletons, a pair of severed hands, 2 severed and preserved penises, a mummified scalp, and in the 57 gallon drum, three further dismembered torsos dissolving in the acidic solution. Um, there winds up being a total of 74 Polaroid photos that detailed dismemberment and sexual stuff. The chief medical examiner later states that it was more like dismantling someone's museum than an actual crime scene. Beginning in the early hours of July 23rd, Dahmer is questioned by detectives Patrick Kennedy and Patrick Murphy as to the murders he committed and the evidence found at his apartment. Over the following two weeks, the detectives conduct numerous interviews with Dahmer which, when combine,d wind up equaling to about 60 hours of face to face time with this motherfucker. He had waived his right to have a lawyer present and said he wanted to confess because he had "created this horror and it only makes sense. I do everything to put an end to it." He readily admits to having murdered 16 men in Wisconsin since 1987 and Steven Hicks back in Ohio in 1978. The detectives, uh, wind up being floored and disgusted because Dahmer's so matter of fact about all of this. He readily admits to performing necrophilia with several of his victims' bodies including performing sexual acts with their viscera as he dismembers their bodies in the bathtub. Now, um, what this means I have sadly learned is that he, you know... In the process of dismemberment, he cuts a hole, say like in the dude's belly button. And especially if the body is still a little warm, your body retains the most warmth in your core. I mean, you can tell if you go outside when it's cold, like your arms get cold, your legs get cold, but your core usually stays warmer because it has to cause you have like your heart and shit. Okay. So again, he, let's say he cuts a dude in the belly button and the body's kind of warm and that's a hole for things to go in... Yeah, it's gross. Uh, it's so gross. Mm. He noted that a lot of blood pooled inside his victims chests after death. So he usually would remove their internal organs first and then he'd suspend the torso. So all the blood drained into the bathroom. He then would dice any organs he didn't want to keep and then pull flesh off the body. Bones that he wanted to dispose of we're pulverized or, um, acidified with Soliex, and bleach solutions were used to aid in the preservation of skeletons and skulls that he wanted keep. He confessed to having consumed hearts, livers, biceps, and portions of thighs of several victims that he'd killed within the last year describing the increase in his rate of killings in the two months prior to his arrest. He's stated he'd been completely swept along and added. "It was an incessant and never ending desire to be with someone at whatever cost. Someone good looking, really nice looking. It just filled my thoughts all day long." This is, uh, I don't know why this is so wild to me. I mean, I do because it's a wild case, but it's, it feels so disturbing. When asked why he had preserved seven skulls and the entire skeletons of two victims, he shared about his private altar that he wanted to make. The display of skulls was to be adorned at each side with the complete skeletons of Ernest Miller and Oliver Lacy. The 4 severed heads in the kitchen we're going to be removed to all flesh and used on the altar and he still needed one more victim to complete the skull number that he wanted on this altar. Incense sticks we're going to be placed at the end - each end of this table above which he was going to put a large blue lamp with extending blue globe lights. It those lights that are like an octopus thing, right? So you've got the stand and then there's several different arms with the, with these blue globe lights. And this is, again, all to be placed in front of a window that had been covered with a black opaque shower curtain. And then he was going to sit in front of it in a black leather chair. In a November 18th, 1991 interview, they asked who the altar was dedicated to and he said "myself. It's a place I could feel at home." He further described it as kind of a place for meditation where he felt he could draw power from, and he felt that if they had arrested him six months later, that they would have already seen the altar - that it would be complete which, at the rate he was going, I could see it. Um, I don't know if the whole thing would be complete, but he had at least have all the components he wanted. He also - it's interesting - he explained that things he does to the bodies like preserving certain parts, taking souvenirs in the form of body parts, et cetera. Um, the photos, whatever. All of that was a way of remembering. And this is, this part's a quote, "remembering their appearance, their physical beauty. I also wanted to keep - if I couldn't keep them here with me whole, at least I felt I could keep their skeletons." On July 25th, 1991, he is charged with four counts of murder and by August 22nd, he is charged with a further 11 counts in the state of Wisconsin. Again, brings the grand total up to 15. on September 14th, investigators in Ohio have like, by this time they have gone back to his childhood home and explored the woods right there and found a shit ton of bone fragments. They formally identify two mplars and a Vertebra with x ray records of Steven Hicks and he's charged by authorities in Ohio with Steven's murder. He winds up not being charged with the attempted murder of Tracy Edwards or with the murder of Steven Tuomi. Now for Tuomi, it was because the Milwaukee County district attorney only wanted to bring charges where there could be no reasonable doubt. And since Dahmer didn't actually have a memory of killing Tuomi, um, and there was like no physical evidence of it, they didn't feel like they had enough to proceed - And that including that within this larger, um, number of charges could actually hinder the ability for him to be charged successfully and like convicted. At a scheduled preliminary hearing on January 13th, 1992 he pleads guilty but insane to 15 counts of murder. His trial begins on January 30th, 1992 - the day my sister was born. I spent the day like in the hospital holding her while she slept after she was born. While she was getting pushed out, like watching The Jungle Book. Um, I dunno, for me, it was a great day. He was tried in Milwaukee for those 15 counts before Judge Laurence Gram. By pleading guilty and on the 13th, he had waived his rights to that initial trial to establish guilt, um, something that is at least required by Wisconsin law. The issue debated by opposing attorneys then is whether or not he was sane. The prosecution says that any disorders he did have clearly did not, um, deprive him of the ability to appreciate how wrong his actions were - and/or I guess that they wouldn't have deprived him of the ability to control his impulses. And the defense were like, "Nah." I mean, basically their experts argued thought he was insane due to his necrophilic drive. And one of their experts, Dr Fred Berlin, testifies that Dahmer's unable to conform his conduct at the time he committed crimes because he was suffering from necrophilia, which is also known as paraphilia. Dr. Judith Becker, who is a professor of psychiatry and psychology, was their second witness, who also, you know, comes at them with that diagnosis. And then forensic psychiatrist, Dr Karl Walstrom not only diagnosis Dahmer with that, but throws in borderline personality disorder, schizotypal personality disorder, alcohol dependence, and a psychotic disorder. All of that is a lot. But I also want us to step back and take a look at - are there people with BPD, borderline personality disorder that don't kill people? Oh yeah. Are there people who have schizophrenia or any similar disorder and don't kill people? Like all of them. Um, what about people who are dependent on alcohol? Oh, good amount of them don't kill people unless they're driving. I just want us to take a look at that because, yes, you could have those things, but those things do not drive someone to kill. Having a mental illness, having a chronic illness, having a disability, those things do not make it more likely for you to commit crimes. In fact, they actually make it more likely for you to be a victim of crimes. Um, and depending on your diagnosis, that can be anywhere from up to like two times more likely, all the way up to like 10 times more likely then, you know, the average mentally abled person. So I just wanna throw that out there. There will be links in the show notes for ya'll to educate yourself further on that if that's something you're into. This is the social justice corner for the week. Having a chronic illness, disability or mental health issue does not make you a murderer. Thank you for coming to my tedtalk. Okay. Back to this, right. The prosecution is like, "no, he's not insane." Um, one of their experts, forensic psychiatrists, Dr Philip Resnick testifies that, yeah, Dahmer likes to do the sex to dead people, but it's not a primary condition because he actually prefers live sexual partners - which is why he was trying to zombify people, right? He doesn't want them dead. He just wants him to do exactly what he wants them to do. He wants control. And so it's not true necrophilia. Another one of their experts, Dr Fred Fosdel says that he believes Dahmer was without mental disease or defect of the time he committed these murders. He says Dahmer is calculating and cunning, able to differentiate between right and wrong, and definitely able to control his own actions. He does believe necrophilia is something Dahmer deals with, but also says he's not like a sadist. He's not necessarily, um, you know, going out with this need to harm people. Um, it's essentially derived from - I'm on a wiki spiral. It's derived from the Marquis de Sade. So sadists are people who derive pleasure if they, or someone else is undergoing pain. And it can actually be a part of personality disorders, which I mean, again, we're going to take a look at and say, hmm, does it make it, does it make you a terrible person? If you have a personality disorder? No. Does it mean you're going to do bad things? No. Anyway, um, the final witness for the prosecution is forensic psychiatrist Park Dietz, and um, he begins his testimony on February 12th. He says, the Dahmer's completely sane. Um, because you know, he's gone to great lengths to be alone with his victims. He's gone to great lengths to have no witnesses. There's ample evidence that he was really prepared. These crimes were not impulsive, um, and all of that. Right? So he believes, too, that Dahmer's alcohol dependence before committing murder is something that's significant. And he says, if he had a compulsion to kill, he would not have to drink alcohol. He had to drink alcohol to overcome his inhibition to do the crime, which he would rather not do. I think that's really important. He also notes the Dahmer strongly identifies with evil and corrupt characters from The Exorcist III - which we already know he's obsessed with - and also Return of the Jedi. He also really identified with the power that these evil corrupt characters had. He saw himself on a similar level. Dahmer would occasionally like wash his favorite scenes from these movies before he went out and looked for a victim and really took power from them, which is creepy. It's creepy. Don't turn my Star Wars into your creepy stuff. I know this was before me, but don't do it - well, not before me, like before I was super obsessed with Star Wars. Given the fact that the majority of Dahmer's victims were African American. Um, there were, like I mentioned, some big racial tensions. Um, it got to the point where we were having a number of, um, you know, racial justice leaders coming in to lead marches, give talks, et cetera. Strict security precautions were taken around the trial. So there was an eight foot barrier of bulletproof glass between Dahmer and other people. Um, one of the things that also pissed off people was there was only one Black person on the jury, which like, I don't know, I'm sorry, but if a lot of this, a lot of what this person has done is negatively affected the Black community locally, you should have more than one Black person on the jury. Also like one Black person on a jury in Milwaukee is not, um, it does not represent a jury of your peers. Like I'm just going to be honest. Like it's just like in everywhere else. You wouldn't just have one Black person on a jury. It's, it makes me mad. Anyway. Um, and then another thing to note is that Lionel Dahmer, Jeffrey's Dad and his second wife, um, attended the trial throughout. Two court appointed mental health professionals both independently testifyed - forensic scientist George Palermo and clinical psychologist Samuel Friedman. Palermo thinks that the murders were result of pent up aggression the Dahmer had within himself. He wanted to kill these men cause he thought they were attractive. And so like he was trying to kill what he hated in himself and also thinks that Dahmer's a sexual sadist who has antisocial personality disorder but is sane. It's amazing how many different personality disorders they're going to try to diagnose Dahmer with - amazing. Um, Friedman testifies that it was more of a longing for companionship that caused him to kill. He says Dahmer's not psychotic, speaks kindly of Dahmer. Um, talks about how he's amiable, pleasant to be with. Nice, funny, handsome, (I don't think so) charming, et cetera. He diagnoses Dahmer with a personality disorder not otherwise specified, featuring borderline, obsessive-compulsive, and sadistic traits. I will say out of all of the diagnoses, um, that one may feel like it fits the most. Um, I'm not a psychologist, I'm not a mental health professional, but I do think that it is important to note when a personality disorder or any other, you know, mental illness has certain traits. So maybe it's just that like, I like how it's laid out. I don't know. I don't know these things. It just feels somehow a better fit than some of the others. Perhaps it also includes because it includes the obsessive compulsive trait. I don't know. Anyway, the trial lasted two weeks. On February 14th, both lawyers give their closing arguments. They speak for like two hours. The defense attorney Gerald Boyle goes first and keeps referring to the mental health professionals - just about everyone said he had some sort of mental health issue. And, um, one of the big sticking points, and it's been quoted in a lot of different things, is that he says that Dahmer's compulsive killings had been a result of "a sickness he discovered, not chose." He keeps painting Dahmer as desperately lonely, profoundly sick, out of control. Um, and you know, I can see where that could sway some people on the jury. After that, Michael Mccann delivers his closing argument for the prosecution. He describes Dahmer as sane, in full control. He simply strove to to avoid detection. He argued that that first murder in Milwaukee - again because this is for all the Milwaukee/Wisconsin crimes - that it was committed hostility and anger and resentment and frustration and hatred and all these big negative feelings and that each victim "died merely to afford Dahmer a period of sexual pleasure." He further argued that by pleading guilty but insane to the charges, Dahmer was trying to avoid accountability or responsibility for his actions. The next day, February 15th, the court reconvenes to hear the verdict. Dahmer was ruled to be sane - not suffering from a mental disorder at the time of each of these murders - although in each count, two of the 12 jurors signified their dissent. On the first two counts, Dom Dahmer was sentenced to life imprisonment plus 10 years with the remaining 13 carrying a mandatory sentence of life imprisonment plus 70 years. The death penalty was not an option because, we in the great state of Wisconsin had that abolished in 1853. Dahmer addressed the court later on and he said, Your Honor, it is over now. This has never been a case of trying to get free. I didn't ever want freedom. Frankly, I wanted death for myself. This was a case to tell the world that I did what I did not for reasons of hate - I hated no one. I knew I was sick of evil or both - now I believe I was sick. The doctors have told me about my sickness and now I have some peace... I take all the blame for what I did... I should have stayed with God,” he said. “I tried and I failed, and created a holocaust." [audibly cringing] We're going to get back to that statement in a second. I just want to finish this part. In addition to expressing remorse for victims and their families, he expressed remorse for causing two policemen to lose their jobs - the policemen that failed to rescue Konerak. He said, "I hope and pray that they get their jobs back because I know they did their best and I just plain fooled them." In both of these statements we see his cockiness, right? "I've created a holocaust." Holocaust is such a big grandiose genocidal act, which is not what he did. And all of these poor cops, I just fooled them. It's not their fault, I'm just that good. Even in this statement, he is reasserting his control of these situations and reasserting the fact that he is better than everyone else in that room. And honestly he's probably doing it with a boner. Let's be honest. People like this thrive and get thrills out of having power over other people. I mean, it's what they do, right? Of course, the statement really wasn't consoling and definitely wasn't convincing. There were a number of powerful impact statements from family members that were read. And, um, so far I've only found one video that puts together a lot of snippets of, um, some of those statements, but I'll put that link to that video in the show notes. Um, there's a really, it's really important I think, to read them, to remember that this is not just like, Ooh, creepy story, but look, this case affected so many more lives than just - 'just' - these 17 people that Jeffrey killed and then his own family, right? It's these people's families, these people's friends. It's Weinberger's friend who commits suicide, right? Because of saying that Dahmer seemed like he was okay. Um, all of these different people struggling with the actions of this man. One of the most impactful victim statements is at the very end of that video Um, so please watch it because I think that's important. Upon hearing of Dahmer's sentencing, his father and his stepmother request to be allowed a 10 minute private meeting with him before he's transferred to the Columbia Correctional Institution in Portage to begin his sentence. The request is granted and they exchange hugs, um, and well wishes before Dahmer is escorted to begin his sentence. Three months after that conviction, he's extradited to Ohio to be tried for the murder of Steven Hicks. It's really just a formality at this point because, again, he has confessed. So the court hearing lasts just 45 minutes. He again pleads guilty and he's sentenced to a 16th term of life imprisonment on May 1st, 1992. After that, he has transferred back to the Columbia Correctional Institution in Portage, Wisconsin. Um, Portage is in again, Columbia County - it's the Columbia correctional facility, right? It is technically part of the Madison metropolitan area, but to be honest, I don't know that I would consider it that. Um, it is really... I mean, I guess? It's north of Madison and just to the east of Wisconsin Dells, so it makes sense to lump it in with Madison, but it's about a 45 minute drive. Like, it is not necessarily close, but I guess that's Wisconsin for ya, right? Hooray! For the first year of his incarceration, Dahmer is placed in solitary confinement. They were worried about his safety should he come into contact with fellow inmates. And we're talking like some of the worst people are in this prison. Right? You've got other serial killers, you've got other, um, rapists, other molesters, and they all absolutely despise this man. I think there's something to be said with that. I don't know what, but... While Dahmer is isolated, he does have a television and access to books, so he's probably blasting like Exorcist III and reading all the Exorcist novels while he's holed up in his cell for a year. After that - and with his consent - he is transferred to a less secure unit after a year. Um, and then he is assigned like a two hour daily work detail, cleaning the toilets. He was actually really happy to get out of solitary because he felt his intrusive, disturbing thoughts were way more harmful than anything anyone else could do to him. He also didn't give a fuck if he lived or died. He had regular phone calls with his family. His father actually visited a lot, making the 11 hour drive from his home in Ohio. He really wanted to understand why Jeffrey committed these crimes, um. To that end, you know, he writes a book, he does a lot of interviews with Jeffrey. He tries to work to figure out the puzzle pieces that, you know, what, what was that last piece that slid into place that caused Jeffrey to really go from very excited, exuberant kid he'd been before that hernia surgery in his youth, right, to where he is now. Shortly after completing his lengthy confessions in 1991 he [Dahmer} had requested that he be given a Bible. And from then on he really devoted himself to being a Christian and you know, use the phrase 'born again.' And his father also like urged him to read a bunch of creationist bullshit. His father - Um, there is an interview I watched earlier, I'm sure it's in the links, but um, with Stone Phillips, and Stone Phillips asks Lionel what um, Lionel would have done had Jeffrey come out as gay, you know, without killing everyone. And Lionel said that he was - and this is paraphrasing, right? - he basically would have made him read the Bible and like try to do something to 'fix him' AKA probably send him off to conversion therapy camp. Which is terrifying. And if you don't know about conversion therapy camps, y'all - whoooo - I'm going to put a link in the shownotes - a couple lins for you to checkout. Um, one of which is a great episode of the podcast True Crime Obsessed (which I'm obsessed with). Um, I think that's the one called Jesus Camp. I mean, whatever one I put in the show notes is it, but if you've listened, you probably know which one I'm talking about. In May, 1994 Dahmer is baptized in the prison whirlpool by Roy Ratcliffe, who is a minister in the Church of Christ and a graduate of Oklahoma Christian University. He visits Dahmer on a weekly basis until Dahmer dies. And they regularly discuss things like death and whether or not Dahmer was sinning against God by continuing to live. And that's Dahmer bringing this up. in July, 1994, a fellow inmate Osvaldo Durruthy attempts to slash Dahmer's throat with a razor embedded in a toothbrush. Um, and it was right after Dahmer was coming back from Roy's weekly church service in the prison chapel. Dahmer gets, you know, some superficial wounds but doesn't wind up seriously hurt. They had a conversation and Dahmer's family said, you know, he'd been ready to die already and was ready to accept whatever punishments he might endure in prison. His mom, um, also retained regular contact with him at least over the phone, um, in contrast to like his dad and step mom coming to visit every so often. But prior to, um, Dahmer's arrest, he hadn't seen his mom since Christmas of 1983. Um, but now at this point he's talking to her on a weekly basis over the phone. And whenever she would express concerns about his wellbeing, he would say, 'you know, um, don't worry. Whatever happens, it'll be fine.' And this one's a direct quote: "It doesn't matter, Mom. I don't care if something happens to me." In a 1994 interview with Stone Philips - Okay, so this is the one I was just watching. It was on Dateline - Dahmer had stated that "If a person doesn't think that there is a God to be accountable to, then what's the point of trying to modify your behavior to keep it within acceptable ranges? That's how I thought anyway." So before he'd become, you know, Super Goddy, right? He didn't think there was any higher power and so he didn't think it mattered what his actions were. This is essentially what he's saying there. So now that he's born again, he realizes the error of his ways and all that good shit. Um, and supposedly wouldn't do this again. Supposedly. On the morning of November 28th, 1994 Dahmer left his cell to conduct his assigned work detail in the toilets. I just, I like the idea of Dahmer having to work in the shitter. Oh, I like it so much. Um, accompanying him were 2 fellow inmates, Jesse Anderson and Christopher Scarver. The trio wound up being left unsupervised in the prison gym, like shower, toilet area for approximately 20 minutes. And, at 8:10 AM, Dahmer is discovered on the floor of the bathrooms, suffering from extreme head and facial wounds. He had been severely bludgeoned in the head and face with a metal bar. His head had also been repeatedly struck against the wall - shit. Although he was still alive and then and then was quickly rushed to a nearby hospital, he died within an hour. Anderson had also been beaten with the same instrument and died two days later from his wounds. Scarver who had already been serving a life sentence for murder committed in 1990, um, comes clean. He tells authorities he attacked Dahmer first with the metal bar as Dahmer was cleaning a staff locker room before attacking Anderson as Anderson cleaned an inmate locker room. Um, they were in, you know, kind of separate areas, which is weird to me that they were still left on supervised - at all. According to Scarver, Dahmer did not yell or make any noise when he was attacked. He had been adamant at the time he had not planned the attacks in advance. He did later divulge to investigators that he concealed the 20 inch iron bar to kill both men in his clothing shortly before the killings, though. There were questions about how involved the prison staff might have been in these murders. Surprise. Scarver hadn't been on toilet detail until literally that morning. He completely loathed Dahmer. He carried around a newspaper clipping about Dahmer's crimes and just completely hated him. Additionally, it's highly irregular for guards to leave inmates alone together at a maximum security prison like Columbia. Hmm. Weird, isn't it? In 2015 Scarver, speaks to the New York post about his reasons for killing Dahmer. He alleged that he was disturbed not only by Dahmer's crimes, but by a habit of Dahmer, um, where he would take prison food and make it look like severed limbs and then squirt ketchup all over the place to look like blood. This fits very much in with the shit that he pulled as a kid, right? Um, and then he would like taunt and antagonize people. So that was part of the reasoning. And he also alleged that both Dahmer and Anderson had, um, taunted him during work detail while they were in completely different spots. He said he confronted Dahmer about his crimes and Dahmer seemed to be unrepentant and that's when he beat him to death. He also claimed the prison guards allowed the murders to happen and that's why they left him alone with these guys. One more thing about the death that puzzles me and many other people is that Dahmer was in really good physical shape. I mean, what do you do in prison? You work out like that's what you do - and I guess make jokes with your food. Um, he could easily have fought back. I mean, a metal bar is no joke, but like he could have fought back and Scarver says he didn't, and his wounds say he didn't. That just leads me back to this whole idea where he's shared his thoughts consistently from his teens even about being suicidal, about not deserving to live, and about questioning if living spits in the face of God. And it, it feels like he wanted it. Um, one of the things that I watched was talking about how, as a born again Christian, he knows that suicide is a no-no, but then if someone else killed you, that's not suicide and you don't necessarily have to fight back. Like I dunno. I thought that was an interesting thought. In Dahmer's will, he asked that there be no services conducted. And he stated he wanted to be cremated. And by September, 1995, he was, and his ashes were split between his parents. His estate was awarded to the families of 11 of his victims who had sued for damages. In 1996, Thomas Jacobson, a lawyer that represents eight of the families, announced that they were planning an auction of his estate. Although victims' relatives stated that the motivation wasn't greed, 'eople were like, oh my God, you're so greedy. Like, dude, I don't know, especially for the people who had kids - at this point, they've gone without, um, you know, the income that parent would have had. I don't know. It's not greed to ask for any sort of reparations or monetary or property payment. I would say like for wrongdoings that you've been through. I think honestly like early nineties peoples weren't there yet in the mindset there was not enough Judge Judy {laughs] I hate that bitch. She's an awful human being. So just FYI. A civic group, Milwaukee Civic Pride was quickly established in an effort to raise funds to purchase and destroy Dahmer's positions. They pledged a little over $400,000 including $100,000 gift by a Milwaukee real estate developer for the purchase of Dahmer's estate. Five of the eight families agree to the terms and Dahmer's possessions were subsequently destroyed and buried in an undisclosed landfill in Illinois. Oh my God. I accidentally scrolled like way up. That was terrifying. On August 5th, 1991 a candlelight vigil to celebrate and heal the Milwaukee community was put on and over 400 people attended. So it was really well attended. There were community leaders, gay rights activist, family members, and they really wanted it to be a spot for people to share their feelings of anger and pain and frustration. And it worked. You know, they got out those feels. And I think it did bring the community closer together, although it also definitely pointed out - like this whole shenanigan right pointed out the lack of fucks the police gave about queer people and especially queer people of color. That's still going on. And the recent serial killings in Toronto are a, uh, good way to say that this, uh, It's not a thing of the past. I'll put a link to that too. I'm going to put a link to everything. The Oxford apartments where Dahmer had killed 12 of his victims were demolished in November of [1992]. The site is a vacant lot still. Um, there've been like these thoughts about like, oh, how do we, how do we fix this piece of land? Do we build a memorial garden or a park or a playground or new housing? And it just never happens. Which honestly, from a ghost perspective, pretty glad about. Lionel released a book in 1994 called A Father's Story where he explores Jeffrey's life and tries to examine what happened. He also talks about their similarities. It's pretty interesting, like I watched a snippet of him reading some, and it was interesting. I think we all have some issues about having control over things. But Lionel tended to blame himself and then also his wife who had been on some medications during like her pregnancy with Jeffrey, that Lionel's pretty sure caused Jeffrey to be a serial killer. I don't think that's how it works, dude. In fact, I'm like 99.999999 to the ninth percent sure that's not how it works. Jeffrey's younger brother - cause remember he has a younger brother - David, he changed his last name. He lives in anonymity. He's not doing any fucking interviews and shit. He's not having it and honestly good for him cause fucking bullshit. I wouldn't want my sister to have to deal with that. I will say it's interesting. Um, there is an odd amount of pride that Wisconsinites seem to feel talking about Dahmer and it's weird. Um, there's an episode of the Netflix show Dark Tourist where he visits spots in the United States and one of the tours they go on is The Cream City Cannibal Tour and it is so disturbing. They make a lot of jokes, which like, okay, I'd probably laugh at the jokes, but then they have like some jump scares along the tour route and stuff? And that just feels wrong. I mean, the jokes are probably a bit much too, if we're honest, but like jump scares? it's wrong. Um, and I mean that tour had been shut down for a time to get it's shit back together before it started to back up. So there's some shit. Um, you know, the other thing is that there's just so much incredibly wrong when we have tours that are light hearted and also only exists to cash in and make light of what happened? And I would say, especially when those tours tend to attract white women. You know, the, the bulk of the audience on this Dar
On this episode of Welcome to Reality, comedian Ryan Mason and host Nicole Toerpe-Mason interview comedians Elijah Holbrook and Raegan Niemela about 90 Day Fiancé season 6 episode 13 from the TLC Network. Elijah is a comedian originally from Northern Wisconsin who has performed throughout the Midwest, most recently at the Cleveland Comedy Festival. He is the host of the Blue Ribbon Comedy Show and a weekly show at Bremen Café, both in Milwaukee. Raegan is a rising star in the Milwaukee scene, starting her own show this month called Baroque & Trebled at the High Note on Wisconsin Avenue in Milwaukee. Intro music from Joe Murphy and podcast artwork from Adam Toerpe.
On episode 79 of SOMEWHERE IN THE SKIES, we continue our Halloween Series with a listener story we've titled, "The Demon Upstairs." Then we take a haunted history tour of Milwaukee and it's many ghostly tales with this week's special guest, Allison Jornlin. As the leading haunted history researcher and tour guide in all of Milwaukee, Allison runs us through some of the most compelling cases of ghostly activity to come out of this Midwestern city. From the tragic death of a young boy beckoned to a lake by an evil spirit to an entire major league baseball team encountering paranormal activity. We hear about a private organization that educates priests in exorcisms and deliverance and we ask the question; can a ghost leave behind footprints? This and much more as we continue to count down to Halloween! Guest Bio: Allison Jornlin founded Milwaukee’s first haunted history tour in 2008. When she’s not teaching fourth graders at a local elementary school, she conducts ghost tours in the Third Ward and down Milwaukee’s haunted main street, Wisconsin Avenue. She assists businesses and paranormal investigation teams with in-depth historical research. As an admirer of anomalies researcher Charles Fort, she frequently provides expert commentary on a variety of Fortean topics for the podcast, See You on the Other Side. Her tours can be found at: www.milwaukeeghosts.com If you have a ghost, monster, or strange story you'd like to tell on this October series, contact Ryan through the website: www.somewhereintheskies.com ALIENCON lands in Baltimore on Nov. 9th-11th. For discount tickets, use promo code: SKIES at check out. Visit: www.TheAlienCon.com/register Patreon: www.patreon.com/somewhereskies Website: www.somewhereintheskies.com Official Store: CLICK HERE Order Ryan's Book by CLICKING HERE Twitter: @SomewhereSkies Instagram: @SomewhereSkiesPod Opening and Closing Theme Song, "Ephemeral Reign" by Per Kiilstofte SOMEWHERE IN THE SKIES is produced by Third Kind Productions, in association with eOne Entertainment SOMEWHERE IN THE SKIES is sponsored by HelloFresh. To receive 50% off your first order, use promo code: SOMEWHERE50 at checkout by visiting www.HelloFresh.ca
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Rick Hindin on meeting Ralph Lauren in 1967 when he was selling ties made by a company called Beau Brummell ~ "He had one table, about a 200-square-foot room, and we walked in and we looked at his ties and they were incredible but they were expensive. So, I told Ralph, "Your ties are too expensive." He said, "Well then you're not the customer for my ties. . . we bought his ties and the rest is history. At one point in time, Britches was the third largest user of Ralph Lauren products in the country." Rick Hindin - Entrepreneur | Britches of Georgetowne, Adworks and Chicken Out with Andy Ockershausen in studio interview Andy Ockershausen: This is Andy Ockershausen and this is Our Town. I am so really personally delighted to have the opportunity to spend at least the next half hour with one of my dearest, oldest friends. The man is absolutely a legend in Washington and Our Town, and, he started in Our Town. He's born in Baltimore but he's Our Town guy. He's done so much for Our Town, but most of all what he did was bring a new enlightenment when he opened Britches. So welcome Rick Hindin. You're much bigger than Britches to me. Rick Hindin: Hi, Andy, how are you? Andy Ockershausen: Do you realize ... Rick Hindin: Good to see you again. Andy Ockershausen: Well, you know, I went to Brotman's90th birthday yesterday. Rick Hindin: Oh really? Andy Ockershausen: Yeah. He's got me by a year. I'm gonna do it next year though. You'll be there, right? Rick Hindin: I'll be there. Andy Ockershausen: Rick, I go back with you to the early '60s. I thought it was with Larrabee, a local advertising agency of some importance at the time. Rick Hindin: Right. Andy Ockershausen: But, you say it isn't. Lewis & Dobrow - Advertising Agency Rick Hindin: Well, Larrabee was owned by Larry Dobrow and I joined the firm after they merged with Allan Jack Lewis. Andy Ockershausen: What was it called? I don't recall. Rick Hindin: Lewis and Dobrow. Andy Ockershausen: That's right, Lewis ... and you had some automobile accounts as I recall. Ourisman Chevrolet Rick Hindin: We had a few. Ourisman Chevrolet was my biggest account. Andy Ockershausen: You get your way with Ourisman Chevrolet. That yours? Rick Hindin: Donor did that. Andy Ockershausen: Oh, I got it. Rick Hindin: Out of Baltimore. Andy Ockershausen: Did you have the helicopter? Rick Hindin: Ours was more exciting. Our slogan was, "Cars cost less at Ourisman Chevrolet." Andy Ockershausen: Yeah, that's unheard of. Why do we have all this advertising now and nobody says that? Rick Hindin: We were very creative in those days. Allan Jack Lewis, he went right to the jugular. Andy Ockershausen: Well, and he was an advertising genius. He was also a writer of some importance. Rick Hindin: Yeah, Allan . . . Jack wrote a play that was produced on Broadway. Andy Ockershausen: Right. I remember you went up to New York for that. Rick Hindin: I did. I did. Andy Ockershausen: See, I know so much about you, Rick, being on the sidelines because at that time, WMAL was very important in this community and you were very important because you were growing. Everybody knew you were gonna go places. The next thing I know, you're talking to me. You've got a slack shop on Wisconsin Avenue in Georgetown. I said, "Rick, what are you doing in the retail business?" Rick Hindin: Georgetown Slack Shop opened in 1966. Andy Ockershausen: And then you've got a...
In this episode, we talk to Jigsaw/Sculpture Milwaukee cohorts Cory Ampe and Marilu Knode about what it's like to turn Wisconsin Avenue into a grand gallery. sculpturemilwaukee.com Hosted by Ryan Day and Mike Wisniewski. Recorded at Keystone Click, "The key to your web foundation." keystoneclick.com
Coach Bob Milloy on Coach Morgan Wootten's coaching style ~ "He could have coached ping pong if you asked him to, but he was just a people guy. I just watched how he dealt with people and he very seldom raised his voice and he never cursed, but he would say to Adrian Dantley, 'Come on Mary Alice, you’ve got to try a little harder.' Those guys would go through the wall. He was the master of it." Coach Bob Milloy, Our Town Guest, and Host Andy Ockershausen in studio Andy Ockershausen: This is Andy Ockershausen and I cannot tell you, you listeners, I hope you all are paying attention, how important it is to me and how it important it is to Our Town to have this gentleman on our program. "The Coach of All Time," I call him. He's the most winningest coach in history for the state of Maryland, high school. He's won over 400 games. He's recently retired, although he'll never retire, and he'd still be winning games. Bob Milloy, the coach of all time. He's in the Sports Hall of Fame, the Maryland Hall of Fame, the Coaches Hall of Fame. He should be in everybody's hall of fame. He's a local guy. Welcome to Our Town, Bob Milloy. Coach Bob Milloy: Thank you so much for that terrific interview. Andy Ockershausen: You hear that all the time. Coach Bob Milloy: It kind of set me back on my heels. I don't know how to follow up on that. Andy Ockershausen: Don't tell me Milloy, you know what it is. You go to, I know, the sports banquets. You know what it is with the Sports Hall of Fame, I was there. You're even a member of the Jocks Hall of Fame, which is bigger to me than that, of course. That's all your guys, all those sports guys you grew up with, went to school with. You're a graduate of the University of Maryland, how about that? Coach Bob Milloy - Homegrown History Coach Bob Milloy: Yes, sir. I am a local guy. I was listening to your podcast with, was it Donald Graham? Andy Ockershausen: Yes. Coach Bob Milloy: He talked about McLean, I guess he was a big real estate guy around here, right? I grew up in McLean Gardens and it's obviously named after his family, right? Andy Ockershausen: That's right. You're Our Town guy. Coach Bob Milloy: No question, yeah. Andy Ockershausen: I knew your dad real well. He was in the automobile business for years. So respected by everybody. But way back, I did not know until today, that you were a St. John's guy. Education - St. Anne's | Blessed Sacrament | Little Flower | St. John's Coach Bob Milloy: Went to St. John's. I started off, went to St. Anne's then Blessed Sacrament when we moved and went to B.S. Andy Ockershausen: St. Anne's is right on Wisconsin Avenue, right? Coach Bob Milloy: Right. I don't think it's a school anymore. Andy Ockershausen: No, I don't ... It's gone. Coach Bob Milloy: The church is still there. Janice Iacona Ockershausen Yeah, church, yeah. Coach Bob Milloy: But then we went to Blessed Sacrament and we got a house out in Bethesda out Bradley Boulevard, which my mother still lives in. Andy Ockershausen: Is that right? How many ... That's a long time ago. Coach Bob Milloy: 1953 we moved in. I was 10 years old and she's still there. Andy Ockershausen: Must have been a dirt road. Coach Bob Milloy: Well there wasn't a lot of trees around in the neighborhood, that's for sure. So anyway, then I went to Little Flower for three years and after Little Flower I went to St. John's. I actually did not get in on the first try. The old man knew somebody and I got a chance to take another test and I got in and then made the honor roll. Andy Ockershausen: How were you commuting then? I know metro, of course, but did you take the bus? Coach Bob Milloy: No, no, no. We had about three families that went to Little Flower and then the other side of the street they all went to Lourde's in Bethesda. Dad went to Capital Cadillac every morning so he would drop us off three days a week and then Mr. Cuddy would drop us off another couple days and it all worked out.
"Voices" A Choral Tribute to Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Voices. REFLECTION ON AN AMERICAN ICON THROUGH WORDS AND SONGS You always need music. You need The Negro Spirituals. I think music lifts our spirits and informus. and that's the jod of music. And if you go back to the enslaved Africans: If they hadn't had a song, how would they have remain sane? They created this body of work that has become the voice of America. From the spirituals, we flow into gospel, jazz. blues.... that's how you pass the dtory along. NIKKI GIOVANNI Howcee Productions Gospel BTR Thank The Choral Arts Society of Washington "Voices" A Choral Tribute to Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. The Choral Arts Society of Washington | 5225 Wisconsin Avenue, NW, Suite 603 | Washington, DC 20015-2024 MLK Celebration Community Initiative Living the Dream...Singing the Dream: Celebrating the Legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. (formerly the Annual Choral Tribute to Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.) now in its 25th year, is an established Washington tradition. Uniting all segments of the DC community through song, the celebration gives eloquent musical expression to Dr. King's timeless message of peace, justice, hope, and unity throughout the world.
This week on MUTV After Hours: -A car drives onto the median on Wisconsin Avenue. -College Republicans and College Democrats hold a debate on Health Care. -MU Radio rocks all night for a good cause All of this plus a look at weekend campus events.
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