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Michael Tau had spent years obsessed by the extremes of musical expression. “Extreme Music: Silence to Noise and Everything In Between” is the culmination of decades of research into the sounds (and silences) that comprise the outer limits and conceptual expressions that stretch the definition of music. Tau defines and categorizes these recorded sounds into sections that allow fans and newcomers to explore the fascinating world of musicians who defy convention. He explores a wide range of extremes including volume, speed, and vulgarity to packaging, recording methods, unplayable media, outdated technologies, and digital pioneers. He asks and answers the questions: Are all sounds music? Is silence music? Does a plate of rotting food once cataloged, packaged and sold by a distributor qualify as music?“Extreme Music” includes over 100 interviews with makers and musicians as Tau uses his background in psychiatry to help readers understand what motivates people to create and listen to non-mainstream music. As a fan of multiple avant-garde musical genres, Tau uncovers the pleasures (and sometimes pain and frustration) found at the outré fringes of music.“Extreme Music” is the ideal guide for curious seekers, die-hard fans, and cultural investigators. Michael Tau was born and raised in Toronto, Canada. As a teenager, he was introduced to bizarre and adventurous music via the after-hours CBC radio program, Brave New Waves, which he recorded onto cassette to listen to the next day. In university, he attended noise shows in lofts in Montreal's quasi-industrial districts, to the detriment of his hearing. He has since written for numerous underground music publications and has authored several music zines. When he isn't listening to the Merzbow boxset, he works as a physician.Purchase a copy of “Extreme Music: From Silence to Noise and Everything In Between” through Feral House: https://feralhouse.com/extreme-music/Listen to a playlist of some the music discussed in this episode: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0pTeMurVDluqaY0txFEPF0?si=de95b551eb3d4ebbMusic Not Available Through Spotify Playlist:Jem Finer's “Longplayer”: https://longplayer.org/ or www.trinitybuoywharf.com/whats-on/longplayer8-Bit Tribute to Miles Davis' ‘Kind Of Blue' called ‘Kind Of Bloop' by Andy Baio: https://kindofbloop.comVulfpeck's ‘Sleepify' album: www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTE2UdbmDw4Hantasi ‘Vacant Places': www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qut4OjmBS0 Visit Michael Tau's website: https://anomalyindex.com/The Booked On Rock Website: https://www.bookedonrock.comFollow The Booked On Rock with Eric Senich:FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/bookedonrockpodcastTWITTER: https://twitter.com/bookedonrockINSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/bookedonrockpodcastSupport Your Local Bookstore! Find your nearest independent bookstore here: https://www.indiebound.org/indie-store-finderContact The Booked On Rock Podcast:thebookedonrockpodcast@gmail.comThe Booked On Rock Music: “Whoosh” & “Nasty” by Crowander (https://www.crowander.com)
David & Meru sprechen über die Faszination an Retro Gaming. Außerdem geht es um "Outriders" und "Forza Horizon" mit schlechter xCloud-Verbindung. Hauptthema: 00:22:03 Website des Retro Spiele Clubs in Hamburg: http://www.retrospieleclub.de Video von Wolf, David & Meru im Retro Spiele Club: https://youtu.be/BFeuR17lySc Blogartikel zum Retro-Gaming-Erziehungsexperiment von Andy Baio: https://bit.ly/3Momgzg Musik: David Albus Twitter: @LCRPodcast Paypal/Email: levelcapradio@gmail.com
In the final installment of our deep-dive Spelunky 2 miniseries, creator Derek Yu and lead programmer Micky Pascual regale us with stories of development, their approach to the post-launch changes, and how they tackled an ocean of secrets. First half is largely spoiler-free (until 1:14), second half is full spoilers! Show notes: Derek Yu Micky Pascual BlitWorks Conor McGregor vs. Donald Cerrone Minus World Spelunky book Andy Baio's kid Eirik Suhrke UFO 50 Goats screaming like humans
Ep 143FU: Marko Stošić iskopao isti lek za Apple Watch unlockiPhone 12 Pro Max Camera Review: Zion — Austin MannGoogle Photos Will No Longer Offer Free and Unlimited Storage — Thurrott.com. Andy Baio lepo sročio.Apple App Review šabanerija prvo pripretila pa popustila oko iSH I sličnih terminal apps. A popustila jer “run to the press always helps”.Srpska eUprava i 2FAiOS, macOSIzašao iOS 14.2, sa značajnim security ispravkama.Steven Aquino: Apple Adds New AR-Enhanced ‘People Detection’ Accessibility Feature To iOS 14.2iOS 14.2 brings JIT compilation support, which enables emulation apps at full performance — 9to5MacObjavljen i Big Sur uz teške porođajne muke, sa jednom zanimljivom izmenom u EULA. Muke su zakačile i sve nas koje se drže podalje od Big Sura.What’s new in macOS 11, Big Sur! — DortaniaFCP, LP for M1 — MacRumorsOne more thingEverything Announced at Today's Apple Event in 6 Minutes — MacRumorsReakcije: Marques Brownlee (MKBHD), Dave Lee (Dave2D), Linus Tech Tips, Jonathan Morrison (TLDToday), Rich Siegel (BareBones)Apple Announces The Apple Silicon M1: Ditching x86 - What to Expect, Based on A14 (11 kB) — AnandTechApple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro — MacRumorsiMore o reakcijama na benchmark cifre. :DApple executives on new MacBook, M1 chip and the future of its products — The IndependentHeh, izgleda Apple ceni iFixit tools ;)OstaloLex Fridman Podcast #131 — Chris Lattner: The Future of Computing and Programming LanguagesIli samo ovaj isečak: Most beautiful programming language featureMatt Sephton:I spent a few hours last night unbinding The BeOS Bible using a hairdryer and putting it through a feed scanner, making light work of 994 pages!The Apple Watch allowed me to capture a precious moment from my mother who was declared brain dead due to Intracranial HematomaZahvalniceSnimljeno 13.11.2020.Uvodna muzika by Vladimir Tošić, stari sajt je ovde.Logotip by Aleksandra IlićArtwork episodeDajbog/Dazhbog2013.ulje na platnu/oil on canvas187 x 131 cmby Saša Montiljo, njegov kutak na Devianartu.
Yancey Strickler, Author and Kickstarter Co-Founder In this inspiring podcast interview, Nathan Chan sits down with Kickstarter co-founder and author Yancey Strickler to discuss his 'Bento Box' method for making better decisions, how his company Kickstarter found it’s feet, and our unhealthy obsession with “financial maximization”. Strickler was working as a music journalist in New York when a chance encounter with future co-founder Perry Chen in a restaurant led to the creation of Kickstarter, and crowdfunding as a category-defining player in a new field. A writer at heart, Stickler used his time post-Kickstarter to write the groundbreaking This Could Be Our Future. An in-depth look at our current obsession with financial gain, and how society has conditioned us to always choose whatever will make the most money. Making the right choices in life is a mission close to Strickler’s heart. As such, he created the revolutionary “Bento Box” framework, an inspiring and humbling process for individuals and businesses alike to frame and structure their decisions. This podcast is one of our most inspiring insights into human nature and the importance of caring for our future selves and our future business. Learn from Strickler as he gives you the secret Bento Box method to help you make the right decisions in life. This is a conversation you won’t want to miss! Key Takeaways Strickler discusses how the idea for Kickstarter came about in 2005 while working in the music industry Why it took Strickler close to 4 years for the idea to be executed The conscious decision to frame Kickstarter as a funding method for passion projects and new ideas rather than a charity platform Why Kickstarter was originally called “Kickstartr” Pitching the idea of Kickstarter and the initial investors, and getting Andy Baio onboard with the project How they went from unpaid developers to profitability in 14 months The effect of being a category-defining player in a new field Stepping down from his position at Kickstarter Strickler’s new book “This Could Be Our Future” and our current obsession with Financial Maximisation: whatever makes the most money is the right decision Strickler’s Bento Framework Now Me: profitability Future Me: as a business, your values Now Us: stakeholders, employees, suppliers, etc. Future Us: the bigger idea of what you want to be Key Resources From Our Interview https://www.ystrickler.com/book
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"The smartest thing we did was reject old fashion, old media, old world advice of how to trick people into giving you their money" - Max Temkin If you are becoming frustrated, depressed, and disillusioned learning about how to raise money to fund your project, then this podcast will inspire you. Max Temkin has directly raised, or advised in a number of projects that have raised over $10 million total on Kickstarter. You MAY have heard of them… In December, 2015, Max raised $1,479,046 for "Secret Hitler", a social deduction table game based in pre World War 2 Germany. Players have to help or hinder the beautifully illustrated Junta-Komodo-Dragon-Adolf-Hitler from taking over the government. His goal was $54,450 and he raised over $100,000 in the first 24 hours. But that is not where he started. His first project was Cards Against Humanity, one of the first games in the early days of Kickstarter, raised "only" $15,540 but since exploded and has been #1 Best Seller on Amazon for Toys and Games for as long as we can remember. (...and is a staple at every games night I host with friends!) In fact, Cards Against Humanity, as of publishing, occupies 3 - WOW! - of the top 20 spots on the Amazon.com Best Seller List including the TOP 2, besting classics like Jenga and Connect 4. Max also helped advise his friends who made the Most Backed Game in Kickstarter history, Exploding Kittens, which raised $8,782,571. Max understands Kickstarter, the Kickstarter Community, and his audience, probably better than anyone on the planet. But Max is not a "marketer". He hates "gimmicks" and "tricks" and "gurus who don't know what they are talking about". If you are feeling jaded by the Kickstarter Marketing World, and think that in order to fund your project you need to sacrifice your vision, then listen now. It will be the best 38 minutes of your day, guaranteed! You will discover The number #1 Trend in Kickstarter Today Why Max still has the "fear to launch" and it never goes away, even after millions of dollars raised Why it is important to ignore the temptation to look for "tricks" and "gimmicks" to hit your goal and "focus on the art" Why no one knows really knows what the future of your project, or any project, holds What it means to "front load" your project, and why it is absolutely critical to the success of your project (...and also when it isn't!) Why “failing a project is a gift”...and how to embrace failure so "you are not on the hook to build something nobody wants" Why you should never take the money if you don't reach your funding goal on Indiegogo Why you should "Show don't tell" to sell your project The importance of "user testing" and "iteration" to produce the best product possible before you launch your campaign (Max took a year and over a hundred iterations to get Secret Hitler just right The importance of knowing your market better than they know themselves The difference between "a good project and a good life" Why your story is so important and why you need to be crystal clear communicating what it is about Your page should clearly explain why a backer should not fund your project How crushing his funding goal on Cards Against Humanity set the project delivery back Famous last words: "Finally, I am not the funniest guy in the room" -Del Close Resources Mentioned: Connect with Max on Twitter Secret Hitler Secret Hitler Website Secret Hitler Kickstarter Campaign Secret Hitler on Forbes Cards Against Humanity Cards Against Humanity Website Cards Against Humanity Kickstarter Page Cards Against Humanity Review Kickstarter CASE STUDY: Cards Against Humanity Buy Cards Against Humanity on Amazon Max’s Other Projects Humans vs Zombies - Help develop the software that powers games of Humans vs. Zombies at over 350 locations and universities all over the world. Philosophy Posters - Ten giant philosophy posters with big ideas presented simply. Wearwolf - A simple game about deceiving your friends. Maxistentialism Zine - A monthly zine about philosophy, design, humor, and social insects, delivered to your door for one year. Spelunky Dance - An interpretive dance for Andy Baio. Exploding Kittens Exploding Kittens Website Exploding Kittens Kickstarter Page Exploding Kittens on Forbes Buy Exploding Kittens on Amazon CONNECT WITH KHIERSTYN: www.khierstyn.com
infocom https://uploads.fireside.fm/images/8/8902c1c9-f2fa-4d62-89a4-5ff690afde35/U0mvOCIF.png Andy Baio is a veteran of the early web, creator of waxy.org (http://waxy.org), upcoming.org (http://upcoming.org), and playfic.com (http://playfic.com). He was the first CTO for Kickstarter and went on to create the XOXO Festival (https://2018.xoxofest.com/) in Portland Oregon. He's also into collecting original 1980s Infocom games and still plays them today despite owning modern computers and video cards that can do so much more.
An episode about the type of sound The Inception Sound is, the controversy surrounding that sounds authorship, and how it’s effectiveness is deeply rooted in a millennia plus of human culture ---------- Double extra super THANKS to all of Reasonably Sound’s Patrons, who help keep the show afloat. Special shoutout to Allie, Andy McMillan, Autumn, Brandon, Camilla Greer, Chelsea Herrington, Coral Kennelty-Cohen, Elliott, Hans Buetow, Jesse Gamble, Joachim, Joe Krushinsky, John Cifuentes, Kyle Adkins, Susan Rugnetta, Talia F E, Tim, Tod Kurt, Xander C ---------- This episode was ORIGINALLY PERFORMED lived for XOXO Fest in Portland during September of 2016. Thanks to Andy Baio and Andy McMillan for making it possible and for supporting the return of Reasonably Sound. Stephen Bruckert compiled and edited the Gravitas of Braaams supercut (https://vimeo.com/180809720) in this episode. Bailey Math of Bailey Math Sound made this episode’s custom braaams. ---------- Reasonably Sound’s theme music is by Will Stratton https://willstratton.bandcamp.com/ and it’s visual design is by Tida Tep http://www.tidatep.com/ ---------- SOURCES: Who Really Created The ‘Inception’ BRAAAM? - http://bit.ly/2cffkHi | Hans Zimmer Feels “Horrible” - http://bit.ly/2cfvbFD | Hans Zimmer Tells Juicy Stories - http://bit.ly/2fhoKPY | 'Braaams' for Beginners - http://bit.ly/2fhkpvZ | How Sirens Work - http://bit.ly/2fhmp7N | WWII Carter Air Raid Siren - http://bit.ly/2cdetXs | Nash Pt. Fog Horn - http://bit.ly/2cdiAD2 | Deskford carnyx fact file - http://bit.ly/2chq3Rm | Carnyx - http://bit.ly/2cdjMWR | Celts: Secrets of the carnyx - http://bit.ly/2cdkbbM | John Kenny - The Voice of the Carnyx - http://bit.ly/2fhq05C | Music experts create replica of Iron Age Celtic horn used in warfare - http://bit.ly/2cqcPip | Female Pioneer Credited With Bringing Sound Effects To Radio - http://bit.ly/2cftcBp | About Ora Nichols - http://bit.ly/2fhnpbM | Ora Nichols: The Most Influential Woman in Radio - http://bit.ly/2fhiPub | Jump Scare: http://bit.ly/2gDsEIW | Crashing Woosh: http://bit.ly/2gDlDYK ---------- I know show notes suck right now, it’ll get fixed soon, hopefully. Sorry.
In about two weeks, Andy McMillan and Andy Baio will welcome several hundred makers what may be the last XOXO Festival.The Fest is a mere four years old, but during that short run it became a premier destination for discussing creativity and technology. Over the years, attendees included a huge range of creatives: blog stars from Boing Boing, DJ sensation Dan Deacon, design fiends of all stripes, the makers of Cards Against Humanity, and social thinkers like feminist critic Anita Sarkeesian, as well as design fiends, podcasters, comic creators, game developers, and so many more. But despite strong attendance (they end up turning away hundreds of would-be attendees each year) the Andys are hitting the brakes. There will not be a XOXO festival in 2017. We talk with Baio and McMillan about what's up at the Outpost, and where the Fest has taken them.
XOXO's Pulls Plug on the Festival, But Plugs in a New Workspace - 1:15Over the last four years, the XOXO Festival has become a premier destination for the intersection of creativity and technology, drawing blog stars, DJ sensations and creators like the folks behind Cards Against Humanity, while regularly turning away hundreds of would-be attendees each year. Yet co-founders Andy Baio and Andy McMillan are hitting the brakes. There will not be a XOXO festival in 2017. That’s not to say they will never bring it back. But the Andys say that, after four years of listening to talk about methods, markets, practice and process, they decided to dedicate themselves instead to their new, pay-what-you-can co-work space called XOXO Outpost.Kelly Pratt to Kick Off TBA with Hundreds of Horns - 7:00After living a nomadic life for 21 years, the Portland Institute for Contemporary Art finally has a new home in northeast Portland. And to celebrate, they're turning over the opening night event to the multi-instrumentalist Kelly Pratt, who has played and arranged for everyone from Beirut to Arcade Fire to David Byrne. Pratt is writing music for hundreds of brass instruments, amateur and professional alike, with the plan to splatter the walls with music in an event called "Fanfare: Birth>Rebirth."Central Oregon Loses Its Arts Central - 17:40A forty year tradition of arts education and advocacy has run aground in Bend. Arts Central, which brought classes, advocacy, and more to thousands of Central Oregon residents, announced on Aug. 19 that it was closing all operations, including the popular classes at Art Station, leaving us to ask: is anyone steering the region’s arts scene?Can Ages and Ages Make Songs About Earthquakes and the End of Civilization Fun? Yes, They Can. - 21:55The band Ages and Ages is infectious. All those hand claps and group harmonies have made songs like "No Nostalgia" and "Do the Right Thing" total NPR ear worms. But the band has changed tack on their new album, “Something to Ruin.” The music is just as infectious, but the subject matter has become much more topical, dealing with issues of booming real estate, mass consumerism, and, well, the impending Cascadia Subduction Zone earthquake. They played an exclusive preview of the music and talked about how the end of civilization could be a good thing.Pidgin Languages in the Portland Building - 34:55A new art installation in the Portland Building’s lobby explores an immigrant’s experience through the pidgin language spoken in Lagos, the Nigerian capitol. Bukola Koiki came to the US as a teenager, did her undergrad degree in North Texas, and then came to Portland for graduate school. She speaks Yoruba and English, but says pidgin is a necessity in Nigeria, a country where 500 languages are spoken. LAIKA's 'Kubo of the Two Strings" Is a Hit - 41:30The newest film from LAIKA is out, and critics are calling it the Hillsboro-based animation house's best film to date. “Kubo of the Two Strings” is a coming-of-age epic set in fantasy Japan, where a young storyteller uses music to bring his origami paper creations to life. The film stars Art Parkinson as Kubo, as well as Charlize Theron, Ralph Fiennes, Rooney Mara, George Takei and Matthew McConaughey. LAIKA’s CEO Travis Knight is a veteran animator, but Kubo is his first time in the director’s chair, as he recently told Audie Cornish on "All things Considered."
Colin Ray joins us to discuss the evolution and potential future of computer input methods, and strange twists and turns through the landscape of game controllers - most notably the Steam controller. In the words of Andrew: ENGELBART IS LOVE, ENGELBART IS LIFE. ENGELBART IS GENIUS. ENGELBART IS REMEMBERED FOR AN INPUT DEVICE HE DIDN'T EVEN INVENT. COLIN MADE HIS OWN STREET FIGHTER CONTROLLER DECAL. HOVER GESTURES. TOUCH GESTURES. LINE WOBBLER. ENGELBART. ENGELBART. ENGELBART. -The Mother of all Demos (1968) -A brief history of video game controllers -Sketchpad (1963) -Bret Victor of Worrydream -The insane GameCube keyboard controller -The Xbox Chatpad (which is stupid) -Enhance! Let's find some snakes. -🙌 S T E A M C O N T R O L L E R 🙌 -Steam Controller for video editing -Imbroglio -Andy Baio raised his son through the history of video games -A Brief Rant on the Future of Interaction Design -10/GUI -Microsoft hand tracking -Leap Motion -Super-cool hover gestures from Microsoft research (they can't be totally wrong about everything, after all)
Andy Baio loves making things online. He’s written waxy.org for the last 13 years, helped build Kick Starter, and organizes XOXO — an independent art tech festival in Portland. His upcoming projects include the XOXO Outpost, which is an experimental workspace opening this January, and the reboot of the collaborative event calendar, upcoming.org.
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"The smartest thing we did was reject old fashion, old media, old world advice of how to trick people into giving you their money" - Max Temkin If you are becoming frustrated, depressed, and disillusioned learning about how to raise money to fund your project, then then this podcast will inspire you. Max Temkin has directly raised, or advised in a number of projects that have raised over $10 million total on Kickstarter. You MAY have heard of them… In December, 2015, Max raised $1,479,046 for "Secret Hitler", a social deduction table game based in pre World War 2 Germany. Players have to help or hinder the beautifully illustrated Junta-Komodo-Dragon-Adolf-Hitler from taking over the government. His goal was $54,450 and he raised over $100,000 in the first 24 hours. But that is not where he started. His first project was Cards Against Humanity, one of the first games in the early days of Kickstarter, raised "only" $15,540 but since exploded and has been #1 Best Seller on Amazon for Toys and Games for as long as we can remember. (...and is a staple at every games night I host with friends!) In fact, Cards Against Humanity, as of publishing, occupies 3 - WOW! - of the top 20 spots on the Amazon.com Best Seller List including the TOP 2, besting classics like Jenga and Connect 4. Max also helped advise his friends who made the Most Backed Game in Kickstarter history, Exploding Kittens, which raised $8,782,571. Max understands Kickstarter, the Kickstarter Community, and his audience, probably better than anyone on the planet. But Max is not a "marketer". He hates "gimmicks" and "tricks" and "gurus who don't know what they are talking about". If you are feeling jaded by the Kickstarter Marketing World, and think that in order to fund your project you need to sacrifice your vision, then listen now. It will be the best 38 minutes of your day, guaranteed! You will discover The number #1 Trend in Kickstarter Today Why Max still has the "fear to launch" and it never goes away, even after millions of dollars raised Why it is important to ignore the temptation to look for "tricks" and "gimmicks" to hit your goal and "focus on the art" Why no one knows really knows what the future of your project, or any project, holds What it means to "front load" your project, and why it is absolutely critical to the success of your project (...and also when it isn't!) Why “failing a project is a gift”...and how to embrace failure so "you are not on the hook to build something nobody wants" Why you should never take the money if you don't reach your funding goal on Indiegogo Why you should "Show don't tell" to sell your project The importance of "user testing" and "iteration" to produce the best product possible before you launch your campaign (Max took a year and over a hundred iterations to get Secret Hitler just right The importance of knowing your market better than they know themselves The difference between "a good project and a good life" Why your story is so important and why you need to be crystal clear communicating what it is about Your page should clearly explain why a backer should not fund your project How crushing his funding goal on Cards Against Humanity set the project delivery back Famous last words: "Finally, I am not the funniest guy in the room" -Del Close Resources Mentioned: Connect with Max on Twitter Secret Hitler Secret Hitler Website Secret Hitler Kickstarter Campaign Secret Hitler on Forbes Cards Against Humanity Cards Against Humanity Website Cards Against Humanity Kickstarter Page Cards Against Humanity Review Kickstarter CASE STUDY: Cards Against Humanity Buy Cards Against Humanity on Amazon Max’s Other Projects Humans vs Zombies - Help develop the software that powers games of Humans vs. Zombies at over 350 locations and universities all over the world. Philosophy Posters - Ten giant philosophy posters with big ideas presented simply. Wearwolf - A simple game about deceiving your friends. Maxistentialism Zine - A monthly zine about philosophy, design, humor, and social insects, delivered to your door for one year. Spelunky Dance - An interpretive dance for Andy Baio. Exploding Kittens Exploding Kittens Website Exploding Kittens Kickstarter Page Exploding Kittens on Forbes Buy Exploding Kittens on Amazon CONNECT WITH KHIERSTYN: K(at)crowdfundinguncut(dot)com
Andy Baio joins Dan Benjamin to discuss joining Expert Labs, Kickstarter, the inspiration for Upcoming.org, working for Yahoo!, the Star Wars Kid, copyrights, and more. Original Air Date: November 18, 2010
Show NotesIn which we talk about new social media player Ello—some initial impressions, venture capital’s influence in Silicon Valley and its distinctive shape there vs. elsewhere, and thoughts on business model and communication. Chapters Intro (0:44) Definitely Still a Beta (0:44–5:27) That’s Not a Gift (5:27–14:02) How People React to News (14:02–22:32) A Working Business Model (22:32–28:32) Conclusion (28:32–30:04) Outtake (30:04–30:10) Music “Aldebaran Serpent” from Tower by Falcon Arrow. Used by permission. (Isn’t that album art fantastic?) “Winning Slowly Theme” by Chris Krycho. We asked him for permission, and he said “Yes.” Links Things we talked about on the show that we thought you might want to click a lovely link and read about. Ello About: What is Ello? Who Created Ello? Ello Manifesto: Your social network is owned by advertisers. Every post you share, every friend you make, and every link you follow is tracked, recorded, and converted into data. Advertisers buy your data so they can show you more ads. You are the product that’s bought and sold. We believe there is a better way. We believe in audacity. We believe in beauty, simplicity, and transparency. We believe that the people who make things and the people who use them should be in partnership. We believe a social network can be a tool for empowerment. Not a tool to deceive, coerce, and manipulate – but a place to connect, create, and celebrate life. You are not a product. Ello Doesn’t Have Ads Criticism: Aral Balkan: “Ello, goodbye.” Ello user Andy Baio (@waxpancake) on Ello’s venture capital fresh Tracks Capital Their information page on Ello Ello’s and freshTrack’s responses: Ello Founder Says VC Funding Is No Big Secret: ‘That’s Silly’ Ello investor, co-founder: Funding or not, we hate ads and we want to “shift values” Ello Cofounder: ‘We Have NO Exit Strategy’ Ben Thompson: “Ello and Consumer Friendly Business Models” The Vox: “31,000 people an hour are joining the social network Ello. The anti-Facebook, explained.” 86: Moving the Party to the Bar Down the Block (Accidental Tech Podcast) “Considering the audience” – Chris’ conversation with @oluseyi (and others) on Ello about iOS and Android Other social networks attempting to break free of the ad-driven model: App.net Tent.is/Cupcake.io Diaspora Markdown – a simple syntax for writing text for the web. Chris’ post on using Markdown for academic writing Previously on the show: 0.04 Tell Me What to Do: on Editorially and startup business models, and also on bands making genre shifts. 0.13 Ten Thousandth Lightbulb: on App.net, social media, and funding models. 1.07 They Both Start With T?: on Taylor Swift, Twitter, and messaging. 1.11 We Need Life Editors: in which we inveighed gainst the going-it-alone approach to the arts. Follow/Subscribe iTunes App.net Ello Twitter Facebook
Jen Bekman, Zoë Salditch, and Mike Merrill were our guests live on stage at the XOXO 2014 festival in Portland, Oregon, as part of the Story evening that also featured Hrishikesh Hirway's Song Exploder, featuring a song by The Thermals; John Roderick (The Long Winters) interviewing Chelsea Cain; and Harmontown with Dino Stamatopoulos.Jen Bekman founded 20x200 in 2007 to provide art at accessible prices. She spoke about her in work in 2012 at XOXO. Then she had a terrible, no good, very bad year. For a lot of reasons, she can't discuss the particulars of what happened, but she had to reboot 20x200: its site, its technology, its art, and its trust with existing customers.If you have beautiful digital art, you need a place to display it. That's the idea behind Electronic Objects, a massively funded Kickstarter project from a month ago. But Zoë Salditch's interest is less in the technology than the uses to which people will put it. In the midst of producing their EO1 model, they have artists in residence working on concpetual ideas and are considering one future for their hardware as a platform for art — maybe 20x200 and EO have a lot in common?With most people, saying "I can buy and sell you" is a boast about one's own ostensible net worth. With Mike Merrill, it's the literal truth. Mike is a publicly traded company, and shareholders can vote on the course his life takes, including how he pursues romantic interests. Shares in KMIKEYM have traded as high as $25 and typically change hands in a band of $5 to $10. Volume is low.This is our last regularly scheduled episode as we go on hiatus and consider a path forward. Keep watching this site and @newdisruptors for news about future projects.Sponsors and patronsThis podcast has been made possible through the support of sponsors and patrons.gifpop, the makers of physical renditions of your animated GIFs through the scientific magic of lenticular printing! Take a GIF with up to 10 frames and receive a version that you can tilt for animation, or buy a design from featured artists who receive 80% of the purchase price — or even submit your own work for consideration for sale. Listeners get 10% off a gifpop order by using coupon code DISRUPT during checkout.99designs: Have dozens of designers from the over 310,000 that are part of 99designs's network submit ideas for your logo, Web site, T-shirt, car wrap, or other design project, then pick the best and have a finished, professional result in a week or less for a flat price. Our listeners can visit this special destination page to get a $99 Power Pack of services for free!Thanks to our Patreon backers for all their support! Bryan J. Clark, Pasha Alpeyev, Andy Baio, Matthew Blai, Alex Bond, Henry Brown, Anirvan Chatterjee, Ready Chi, Jordan Cooper, Craig, Tarun Gangwani, GravityFish , Accounting Guy, Gregory Hayes, Brian J. Geiger, Jonathan Mann, Mike Mansor, Kris Markel, Roman Mars, Andrei Matetic, Gordon McDowell, Andy McMillan, Rönne Ogland, George OToole, Elliott Payne, Garry Pugh, "r," Neil Richler, James Robilliard, Kay Schumann, Jonathan Stark, Kyle Studstill, Ted Timmons, CJ Tully, and Ben Werdmuller.(Photo by Brad Dowdy.)
Dan is joined by Andy McMillan to talk about The Manual, XOXO Fest, and things you have no control over. Links for this episode:Kind of Screwed - Waxy.orgKind of Bloop: An 8-Bit Tribute to Miles Davis' Kind of BlueWhy Andy Baio’s ‘Kind of Bloop’ Copyright Case Shouldn’t Dissuade Fair Use | Mediashift | PBSAndy Baio - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaPanic - Shockingly Good Software.The ManualGood On PaperAndy McMillan (andymcmillan) | TwitterXOXO · XOXO 2014Death, failure, and all of the other stuff the tech industry won't talk aboutQcut : Denim that FitsThe ManualThe Manual, Everywhere by Andy McMillan — KickstarterSponsored by Casper (Use code XOXO for $50 towards your purchase of a comfy new mattress), Varonis DatAnywhere (Try turning your own network shares into a private cloud free for 30 days with an unlimited amount of users and if you visit www.varonis.com/quit you get 5 users free forever), and Squarespace (use code QUIT for a free trial and 10% off your brand new website).
DigitalOutbox Episode 217 DigitalOutbox Episode 217 - Driverless Cars and Twitch Playback Listen via iTunes Listen via M4A Listen via MP3 Shownotes 2:12 - OKCupid experiments with 'bad' dating matches 6:03 - UK to allow driverless cars on public roads in January 10:16 - BMW Mini drivers in the UK can now get parking help from JustParks new in-car app 12:34 - Apple and Samsung Agree To End All Non-U.S. Patent Disputes 15:44 - UK operator Three confirms that all its phones are now sold unlocked 18:08 - UK piracy police arrest man for running proxy server 21:42 - Twitch bought? 28:09 - Xbox One digital TV tuner will allow Europeans to control live TV without HDMI pass-through 30:05 - EA announces a £3.99 gaming subscription for the Xbox One Picks Ian Nuzzel - Free on the web and iOS - Surfaces content from your friends on Twitter and Facebook - More content shared socially than via RSS, sometimes you just don’t have time to sift through 1000’s of tweets and feeds - Nuzzel will present links shared by your friends on Twitter and Facebook - View by date or number of friends shared - Handy - Your newsfed is public as is your friends - http://nuzzel.com/shweepa Belong.io - Free - Build by Andy Baio - a Twitter-fueled link aggregator that favors new projects/sites over news/articles - Handy
Jamie Wilkinson is the co-founder and CEO of VHX, a service that delivers movies online to the customers of filmmakers. They exist in sharp contrast to many video sites — operated by the likes of Amazon, Apple, and others — in that they only deliver films free of digital rights management, take a sliver of the purchase price, and truly facilitate filmmakers reaching their audiences. Sponsors and patrons This podcast is made possible through the support of sponsors and patrons. Thanks to Cards Against Humanity, which is helping underwrite our new indie ads: inexpensive, short advertisements designed for independent artists, makers, programmers, and others. Thanks to Cards Against Humanity, which just launched a site where you can buy directly from them, including their Bigger Blacker Box and their 2012 and 2013 holiday packs, the profits from which are donated to charity. Our indie advertisers this week are: GaymerX, the inclusive gaming conference for everyone, celebrates the diverse culture and history of gaming. Get $20 off registration with the code "newdisruptors." Pixelwits: hand-crafted pixel portraits. Listen later in the show for a chance to win a custom portrait. DrinkControl helps you to keep track of moderate drinking and your drink expenses. And an ebook novella, Scolding the Winds, is currently being funded, and you can help make it happen. Thanks also to patrons Ben Werdmuller, Alex Bond, and Garry Pugh for supporting us directly through Patreon! You can back this podcast for as little as $1 per month. At higher levels, we'll thank you on the air and send you mugs and T-shirts! Show notes Alex's co-founder is Casey Pugh. He directed Stars Wars Uncut with which Jamie was deeply involved. Jamie also built the Know your Meme system. Chris Anderson's The Long Tail mentions how many screens on which movies are shown when they are in wide release. The number of movie screens in America has increased in recent years! Andy Baio is one of the guys behind XOXO, which just announced its 2014 line-up and registration. Dave Sifry coined the phrase, "the Magic Middle." Shane Carruth shoots sometimes on inexpensive gear. I and Jamie mentioned the Red camera and Black Magic Camera. Julian Velard used PledgeMusic to fundraise for a recent album. Jack Conte of Pomplamoose explained how poorly YouTube pays even with massive traffic in his talk at XOXO 2013. Louis CK solid a concert for $5 and changed the economics of that forever. I spoke to Adam Cornelius and Chris Higgins about their movies The Tetris Masters (2011) and Coined (upcoming) in last week's episode. Lisanne Pajot is the co-creator of Indie Game: The Movie. Aziz Ansari handled his comedy concert with VHX. Kickstarter has started to produce reported features on creators, starting with this terrific one about Max Tempkin, friend of the show and one of the creators of Cards Against Humanity. Jamie and I compared notes about the movie Stripped, which used iTunes, VHX, and Google Play during its launch. The creators of that film were guests on this podcast a few weeks ago. The redemption process for the Veronica Mars movie was kind of a mess, but it all got worked out. They relied on Ultraviolet. VHX posted a case study called "Stripped and the Power of Bonus Content."
In Part 2, Ryan talked with Andy, about "Making A Living Doing What You Love," and how Andy launched the XOXO Festival. The next XOXO is coming up in September, 2014 in Portland, Oregon. and you can register/view the speakers: http://2014.xoxofest.com/ Dan Harmon, Hank Green, and Kevin Kelly. (You can listen to Ryan and Earwolf CEO Jeff Ullrich, talk about Kevin Kelly's inspiring 1,000 True Fans article on Episode 7 of the Influencer Economy). Andy chats about how a theme of the XOXO conference is about "going independent" as a creator, and how it is difficult to go independent, often the pros outweigh the cons. When someone by-passes publishers in the book/gaming/board gaming/movies world (all creative industries), it can be incredible to see how far people's ideas can go. Ryan asked Andy about creating projects online (Kickstarter or otherwise), without having a large (pre-existing) fan following, and how one goes about that. Or if it's even possible. Andy said creators with free-standing ideas that are high concept can often succeed, if you tap into a subject that people care about. Andy sites Indie Game the Movie as a great example of a project where you don't need a pre-existing fan-base to get off the ground. By inviting people into the story& engaging people through the creative process, you can build a base in the process, like the creators of Indie Game did. (You can listen to Ryan chat with VHX Founder Jamie Wilkinson about Indie Game the Movie on Episode # 8. On this podcast you’ll learn: The story of Upcoming.org: the launch, acquisition and re-birth How to leverage the power of Kickstarter How to run successful Kickstarter campaigns (Andy’s projects as examples) How Kickstarter was founded What the XOXO conference is all about (you should sign-up for updates: http://2014.xoxofest.com How awesome the internet is and can be for givers How to "go independent" and by-pass publishers as a creator How Indie Game the Movie, built-up a fan-base and launched a movie with a large (pre-existing) following How board games were re-vitalized via crowdfunding Andy on Twitter: https://twitter.com/waxpancake Sign-up for updates on the XLXL Festival: http://2014.xoxofest.com Sign-up for the re-launch of Upcoming.org: http://upcoming.org
Gary Chou launched Orbital Boot Camp to accelerate people's product ideas into reality in a 12-week intensive session. He knows from startups from his work at Union Square Ventures and The Product Sessions, but his particular interest is making sure that people with traditionally fewer opportunities are included. Sponsors & patrons This podcast is made possible through the support of sponsors and patrons. Thanks to Cards Against Humanity, which is helping to underwrite our new indie ads: inexpensive, short advertisements designed for independent artists, makers, programmers, and others. Thanks to Cards Against Humanity, which just launched a site where you can buy directly from them, including their Bigger Blacker Box and their 2012 and 2013 holiday packs, the profits from which are donated to charity. Our indie advertisers this week are: The Cotton Bureau, enablers of well-designed screenprinted shirts. The Velocity app for faster reading — up to 1,000 words a minute! Ensembles, a Core Data sync framework, which works with iCloud and Dropbox, and is extensible Games by Play Date, an indie tabletop game development studio supporting their new game, Pack the Pack Sparkle, a Mac app for painless Website creation Promoter, a Web service for indie game developers — get 10% off by following the link Hey, Cotton Bureau has a special one-day sale, its first, on June 12: $4 off every shirt on its site! And, from June 12 to June 18, New Disruptors listeners can be entered for a drawing by tweeting #disrupt to @cottonbureau. Five winners will be picked on June 19. Thanks also to patrons Alex Bond, Rönne Ogland, and Andy Baio for supporting us directly through Patreon! You can back this podcast for as little as $1 per month. At higher levels, we'll thank you on the air and send you mugs and T-shirts! Show notes Gary taught a School of Visual Arts with Christina Cacioppo, once a colleague from his venture capital days. Here's a picture of the old Kickstarter offices that Gary's occupying. Stewart Brand's How Buildings Learn is a favorite title for understanding the utility and drawbacks of informal and formal spaces, told through the lessons of how buildings evolve over time. Gary posted information about the breakdown of applicants that shows he met his goals for inclusiveness.
Matt Haughey founded MetaFilter, a well-moderated forum for discussions about interesting things that expanded to also answer questions. At just a few months over 15 years old, it's a veterans of many Internet lifecycles. In the last couple of years, however, MetaFilter began to face an existential challenge, which we'll talk about in this episode, along with its history, nature, and future. Sponsors & patrons This podcast is made possible through the support of sponsors and patrons. Thanks to our sponsor, Harry's: A great shaving experience for a fraction of the price of its competitors. $15 gets you a set that includes a handle, three blades, and shaving cream shipped to your door. Use coupon code DISRUPT for $5 off your first order. We've started a new kind of ad: "indie ads"! If you're a solo creator or small firm, we're offering discounted short ads with the kind underwriting of Cards Against Humanity. (CAH just launched a site where you can buy directly from them, including their Bigger Blacker Box and their 2012 and 2013 holiday packs, the profits from which are donated to charity.) Thanks also to patrons Bryan Clark, Rönne Ogland, and Mike Mansor for supporting us directly through Patreon! You can back this podcast for as little as $1 per month. At higher levels, we'll thank you on the air and send you mugs and T-shirts! Show notes Atex was the first digital composition system, used widely in the newspaper and magazine world into the 1990s, when PageMaker, QuarkXPress, and other software superceded it. Matt worked at Pyra Labs on Blogger for a short stint in its early days with Ev Williams, Meg Hourihan. We mention Tim O'Reilly, a publisher and thinker who invested in Blogger and a number of other interesting early-stage ventures. He founded Global Network Navigator (GNN) in 1993, which was sold to AOL in 1995. He is part of O'Reilly Alphatech Ventures. David Carr, the New York Times' media critic, used the terrible, terrible term platisher to refer to Medium, which is a combination of a platform and a publisher in a recent article. An OC-12 line is up to 622 Mbps of throughput. MAE-West was once the major interconnection point for ISPs on the west coast. The MAE stands for Metropolitan Area Exchange. In 1995, I wrote "The Experiment Is Over," about the how the National Science Foundation was shutting down its contracts for NSFNet, because commercial organizations could now directly operate the Internet backbone. A Virtual Private Server (VPS) is a virtualized instance of an operating system running on a host alongside potentially many others, each of which is allotted guaranteed amounts of CPU usage, storage, and the like. VPSes are just like running a virtual machine on one's own computer, but designed for efficiency and reliability. Glenn uses Linode, which recently switched all its drives to SSDs and doubled many system parameters. Digital Ocean is slightly cheaper (it used to be much more so). Amazon EC2 is another alternative for rapid scaling. After years of pictures of cats in scanners, MetaFilter set up cat-scan.com to house those and its memories. BREAKING! Cat-scan is dead and its file lost forever! BREAKING! File were found and it's fixed. As you were. The community at Ask MetaFilter produces some remarkable answers. A poster asked for help deciphering coded messages her grandmother on index cards before she died in 1996. Within 15 minutes, there was an answer. Andy Baio asked about an image he used a decade ago for the soon-to-be-revived Upcoming, and Boing Boing's Rob Beschizza had an answer four minutes later. Einstein probably didn't tell a story about "no cat," but it's an interesting history of where the apocryphal quote came from; and my original Google Answers query, for which I was willing to pay $15 if someone had an accurate reply. Jessamyn West is part of the lifeblood of the interesting part of the Internet. Matt blames his PVRblog for the rise of content farms. On Medium, Matt explained MetaFilter's Google search and AdSense predicament. But the good news is that even after we recorded this episode, donations continued to pour in. They've now received about $40,000 in one-time donations and a commitment of $10,000 per month in recurring ones. That monthly figure is about one-third of the site's Google ad revenue, and thus a good cushion against future drops. (Photo by Chris Ryan.)
This week Myke is joined by Andy Baio. They talk about the history of Upcoming.org, its return with a Kickstarter project and the future for the site.
Listen in as The Doubleclicks, a geeky two-sister band, perform four songs, and four authors read parts of their reported features from The Magazine: The Book at our last live book event in Portland, Oregon. The event was held at Reading Frenzy, and features John Patrick Pullen, Alison Hallett, Chris Higgins, and Elly Blue. Sponsors & patrons We're sponsored this week by Cards Against Humanity, which just launched a site where you can buy directly from them, including their Bigger Blacker Box and their 2012 and 2013 holiday packs, the profits from which are donated to charity. Show notes Chloe Eudaly owns the bookstore Reading Frenzy. It raised over $50,000 via Kickstarter to move its store after losing its downtown lease and then having a space fall though. If you visit Portland, you have to stop by. Andy Baio is one of the fellows behind the XOXO festival, and is in the middle of fundraising the return of Upcoming, a site he co-developed, sold to Yahoo, and recently bought back. John Patrick Pullen read from "Beacon of Hope." Alison Hallett read from "What Lies Beneath." Elly Blue read from "Hub and Spoke." And Chris Higgins read (the footnotes) from "Playing to Lose." The Doubleclicks performed four songs for us: "Worst Superpower Ever," "Oh, Mr. Darcy," "Impostor," and "Velociraptor." They were guests on this podcast in February 2014.
Amber & Sarah chat with Andy Baio about the return of Upcoming.org, Snapchat settles with the FTC, Moves shares data with Facebook, StandWith and Cinamatic are our apps of the week, & more! Hosts: Amber MacArthur and Sarah Lane Guest: Andy Baio Sponsors: offset.com/welcome/socialhour 99designs.com/socialhour audiblepodcast.com/socialhour
Amber & Sarah chat with Andy Baio about the return of Upcoming.org, Snapchat settles with the FTC, Moves shares data with Facebook, StandWith and Cinamatic are our apps of the week, & more! Hosts: Amber MacArthur and Sarah Lane Guest: Andy Baio Sponsors: offset.com/welcome/socialhour 99designs.com/socialhour audiblepodcast.com/socialhour
Henry Smith is a games app developer, and the evil genius behind the addictive multi-player app Spaceteam. Spaceteam won oodles of awards, and it has the added benefit (or problem) of being free. Henry has an active Kickstarter to fund future development of free work over the next year. Sponsors and Patrons New Relic helps everyone's software work better, and if you're in any business today, you're in the software business. Software powers our apps, runs our databases, manages our accounts, and runs ecommerce sites and email programs. New Relic monitors every move your application makes, across the entire stack, and shows you what's happening right now. Visit newrelic.com/disruptors to find out more. MailRoute filters your mail, quarantines any suspicious mail offsite, and delivers only clean mail to your mailboxes. With one simple click, your domain, mail server and other precious resources are protected. For 10% off the lifetime of your account, and a free 15-day trial, visit mailroute.net/disrupt! Thanks to patrons Andy Baio, Jonathan Mann, and Abraham Finberg for supporting us directly through Patreon! You can back this podcast for as little as $1 per month. At higher levels, we'll thank you on the air and send you mugs and T-shirts. Show notes Watch for an upcoming interview with Greg Wohlwend, the developer of the app Threes. Henry shares details openly about Spaceteam's downloads and revenue. He wrote a post summing up all the money that's come in, including commissions and prize winnings. Henry's Spaceteam Manifesto is a more formal expression than this podcast of a lot of the principles driving him. Greg Knauss talked about exiting a long-time job, some of the paralysis that followed, the fear and reality of failure, and finding a path forward in "Falling Upward" (Episode 63).
In September 2013, I interviewed at the XOXO conference and festival the four lead editors of Boing Boing, an online, thriving descendent of zine culture that is one of the most popular blogs on the Internet. For the day after Christmas, it seems appropriate to celebrate generosity and gift culture with Mark Frauenfelder, David Pescovitz, Cory Doctorow, and Xeni Jardin. As with all the sessions at XOXO, the presentation is Creative Commons licensed, and I separately obtained permission from Andy Baio and Andy McMillan. Thanks, too, to Mike Gebhardt and Betty Farrier of brytCAST.com, the folks who videotaped throughout XOXO 2012 and 2013, for providing the high-quality audio file.
This week Myke is joined by Andy Baio. They talk about Upcoming.org, Waxy.org, Kickstarter, working on independent projects and XOXO.
Mike and Jessie are joined by the one and only Andy Baio himself. They talk about XOXO’s application process, the meaning of maker, the festival itself, and possible future plans. Also, Andy assures Mike he’s not banned from the festival. No matter what Glenn says. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/lets-make-mistakes/message
XOXO is a truly remarkable festival and conference that you've heard me talk about quite a lot. I interviewed Andy Baio and Andy McMillan just before they announced the line-up for the 2013 show, which took place in mid-September. At XOXO, I interviewed the folks behind four companies or projects exhibiting there about what they were up to: Brewbot, Draplin Design, Projecteo, and NeoLucida. To read more about the 2013 event, read my account at Boing Boing, Leah Reich's essay "The Uncanny Valley of Earnestness" about the place for criticism in the midst of positivity, and Frank Chimero's "The Inferno of Independence."
Andy Baio and Andy McMillan simultaneously had the idea for an arts-and-technology conference, and the synchronistic good fortune to wind up in the same city, at the same bar, with the same friend who connected them to talk. The result was XOXO, an event that tore the top of my head right off and led directly to creating this podcast. Hundreds of attendees and tens of thousands of video watchers describe similar enlightenment about what's currently possible — without cynicism, snark, irony, or greed. Andy and Andy talk about the first XOXO in 2012, and preview the second outing, coming in September 2013. (For more, see my photos from 2012 and read an article I wrote for BoingBoing about the event.) Tickets for 2013 will be on sale soon; go to the Web site and sign up for the mailing list to get notified as soon as they are available. On Twitter: Andy Baio, Andy McMillan, and XOXO, as well as the hashtag #xoxofest, still in use. Sponsored by Igloo Software, an intranet you'll actually like. Stop searching, start working. The New Disruptors is supported by MailChimp, celebrating creativity and chaos since 2001.
Dan and Haddie talk to Andy Baio and Andy McMillan about the 2013 XOXO conference September 19th-22nd in Portland, OR, and discuss broader issues including the courage it takes to produce an independent event, the risks and rewards of collaborating with like-minded people, dealing with the fear of success, and more. Links for this episode:XOXO · Portland, OR · September 2013XOXO (xoxo) on TwitterAndy Baio (waxpancake) on TwitterAndy McMillan (andymcmillan) on TwitterConference — XOXO FestivalTwo days of talks from incredible artists and toolmakers. Kind of Screwed - Waxy.orgTL 5by5 | The Pipeline #31: Andy BaioAndy Baio joins Dan Benjamin to discuss joining Expert Labs, Kickstarter, the inspiration for Upcoming.org, working for Yahoo!, the Star Wars Kid, copyrights, and more. 5by5 | The Big Web Show #12: Web Conferences5by5 | The Daily Edition #36: It Deserves To Be RealKind of Bloop: An 8-Bit Tribute to Miles Davis' Kind of BlueKickstarterBuild 2013Good On PaperThe ManualWaxy.org: Andy Baio lives hereSponsored by Shutterstock (use code DANSENTME6 for 30% off) and Squarespace. Use code STOOGE6 for a free trial and 10% off.
“You can’t have art without resistance in the materials” Quoting William Morris, Paul Ford explains that when he wants to learn something he goes out and finds the appropriate software. In the limits of the software you might find a […]