Podcasts about marketing millennials

Marketers are about to face a new kind of search—and Jay Schwedelson and Daniel Murray are breaking down what it means. Between trick-or-treating mishaps and Halloween candy hot takes, they unpack how AI browsers like Atlas and Comet are rewriting the rules for SEO, content gating, and how your website needs to function for both humans and AI agents.ㅤFollow Daniel on LinkedIn and check out The Marketing Millennials podcast for sharp, no-fluff marketing insights. Subscribe to Ari Murray's newsletter at gotomillions.co for sharp, actionable marketing insights.ㅤBest Moments:(02:55) Why new AI browsers like Atlas and Comet could change how marketers think about search(04:45) How to make your website scannable, fast, and AI-friendly(06:15) Why you should optimize your forms for AI agents, not just humans(09:15) The future of gated content and why “resources” pages might disappear(10:15) How to design sites with fewer clicks and more instant answers(11:00) The great Halloween candy debate: full-size bars or bustㅤCheck out our 100% FREE + VIRTUAL EVENTS! ->Guru Conference - The World's Largest Virtual EMAIL MARKETING Conference - Nov 6-7!Register here: www.GuruConference.comㅤCheck out Jay's YOUTUBE Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelsonCheck out Jay's TIKTOK: https://www.tiktok.com/@schwedelsonCheck Out Jay's INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/jayschwedelson/ㅤMASSIVE thank you to our Sponsor, Marigold!!Email chaos across campuses, branches, or chapters? Emma by Marigold lets HQ keep control while local teams send on-brand, on-time messages with ease.Podcast & GURU listeners: 50 % off your first 3 months with an annual plan (new customers, 10 k-contact minimum, terms apply).Claim your offer now at jayschwedelson.com/emma

What if your next big marketing win comes from making your website easier for AI, not people, to read?  Jay and Daniel look into the future of browsing with AI-powered tools like Perplexity's Comet and ChatGPT's Atlas. They reveal how these new browsers are changing the way people discover brands and what marketers need to do to keep up. From turning your site into answer-ready content to making it agent-friendly (yep, AI agents filling out your demo forms are real), Daniel and Jay break down: > Why PDFs and gated content could be killing your visibility > How to reverse engineer search prompts to get found > Simple tweaks to make your website more AI-scannable > What this all means for SEO, lead gen, and content strategy If you're a Marketer who wants to keep up with AI and even get ahead, this is the episode for you.

Marketers love to talk about great copy…but few actually know how to write it. Kate Mountz does. She's one of the sharpest content marketers in the game, and in this episode, she and Daniel break down the mindset and mechanics behind writing that converts, connects, and actually feels human. They get into how marketers can use research to find real insights (not just filler), how to build a brand voice that scales, and why your quirks as a writer are the key to authenticity in a world full of AI content. Kate shares her journey from raising her hand to run social media at a startup to ghostwriting for founders and building entire content systems. She also explains how to keep your creativity alive when you're publishing at scale and why doing the hard part of writing yourself will always be your marketing superpower. If you care about storytelling, brand voice, and creating content that actually hits, this episode will make you rethink how you write, research, and create. Acquired by Atlassian in 2023, Loom is an AI-powered video communication tool for work that lets users record and share videos quickly and easily. Loom helps teams stay connected across time zones and boosts productivity. Visit Loom.com for more information. Follow Kate: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kjmountz/ Follow Daniel: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Ever felt like your to-do list was running your life instead of the other way around?  This week, Tamara sits down with Erika from Trello, who went from being part of a 10-person product marketing team to leading a two-person powerhouse and somehow became more productive in the process. They unpack how to set real boundaries, build systems that scale (without burning out), and turn chaos into clarity. From choosing the right tools and saying no to endless Slack pings, to developing intentional rituals and co-creating SLAs across teams, Erika shares practical ways to bring sanity back to your workflow. If you've ever wrestled with a launch that didn't hit its mark, struggled to get cross-functional buy-in, or wondered how to make your messaging actually resonate, this is the episode for you.  Follow Erika: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erika-storli/ Follow Tamara: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tamaragrominsky/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Even on airplanes, chaos finds Jay Schwedelson and Daniel Murray—but this Bathroom Break isn't just about travel horror stories. Between speakerphone offenders and oversized dogs, they break down how to actually organize your content so it doesn't become one big mess. From tagging systems and Notion libraries to “writer's rooms” that actually work, this one's packed with simple, real-world ideas to keep your marketing machine humming.ㅤFollow Daniel on LinkedIn and check out The Marketing Millennials podcast for sharp, no-fluff marketing insights. Subscribe to Ari Murray's newsletter at gotomillions.co for sharp, actionable marketing insights.ㅤBest Moments:(01:13) Jay's nightmare airplane encounter with the loudest guy on speakerphone(03:03) Daniel explains how tagging content and tracking performance makes remixing easy(05:37) Why pain points and headlines belong in your content library, not just campaign names(07:31) The surprising way Daniel's team keeps newsletters fresh and relevant each week(09:15) Jay's tip for solo creators—schedule a content-only block on your calendar(10:43) Why you should include people outside your marketing team in brainstorming sessions(11:00) Jay's plea for airlines to ban “farm animal–sized” dogs from middle seatsㅤCheck out our 100% FREE + VIRTUAL EVENTS! ->Guru Conference - The World's Largest Virtual EMAIL MARKETING Conference - Nov 6-7!Register here: www.GuruConference.comㅤCheck out Jay's YOUTUBE Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelsonCheck out Jay's TIKTOK: https://www.tiktok.com/@schwedelsonCheck Out Jay's INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/jayschwedelson/ㅤMASSIVE thank you to our Sponsor, Marigold!!Email chaos across campuses, branches, or chapters? Emma by Marigold lets HQ keep control while local teams send on-brand, on-time messages with ease.Podcast & GURU listeners: 50 % off your first 3 months with an annual plan (new customers, 10 k-contact minimum, terms apply).Claim your offer now at jayschwedelson.com/emma

Ever feel like your content strategy is one chaotic flight away from crashing? This week on Bathroom Break, Jay and Daniel take off on a wild ride, literally and creatively. From chaotic airplane passengers and oversized in-flight pets to the real reason your content strategy is a disorganized mess, they unpack how to actually organize your creative output. Daniel shares how his team uses tagging, tracking, and writer's room brainstorming to build a bank of high-performing ideas without losing their minds. Jay reveals his own battle with inbox chaos and canine co-passengers. If you're a Marketer who wants to get organized, this is the episode for you.

Tired of endless meetings, confusing handoffs, and feeling out of the loop? Feel like you need to get your team on board in a better way? Internal marketing might just be the most overlooked superpower in business. Daniel talks with Jesse Feldman, Product Marketing Lead at Loom. From using AI note-takers and video walkthroughs to running faster go-to-market campaigns, Jesse reveals how great Marketing starts inside your org, not just outside it. Jesse breaks down exactly how Loom uses its own product to build alignment across global teams, accelerate launches, and save hours of meeting time…all while keeping creativity and connection alive. She shares why internal communication might be the most underrated part of Marketing success. Daniel and Jesse also dive into the human side of Marketing: building empathy into leadership, making your team feel seen, and creating internal hype that drives better ideas from across the org.  If you've ever wondered how to connect with your team better so your brand can focus more on marketing and less on busy work, this episode is for you. Acquired by Atlassian in 2023, Loom is an AI-powered video communication tool for work that lets users record and share videos quickly and easily. Loom helps teams stay connected across time zones and boosts productivity. Visit Loom.com for more information. Follow Jesse: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessfeld/ Follow Daniel: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

What makes a product launch actually land? And why do so many fall flat? Daniel's OUT, Tamara's IN. She sits down with marketing leader Julien Savauge to unpack the difference between a launch and a go-to-market strategy, why most teams treat “launch day” as the end when it should be the beginning, and how great marketers use story to shift perception. So what matters more: release dates or momentum? Julien shares lessons from his time at Salesforce, Gong, and beyond, reveals why pre-launch momentum matters more than release dates, how to avoid internal misalignment, and why launches fail when they're built from the inside out. If you've ever wrestled with a launch that didn't hit its mark, struggled to get cross-functional buy-in, or wondered how to make your messaging actually resonate, this is the episode for you.  Follow Julien: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/julien-sauvage/ Follow Tamara: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tamaragrominsky/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Everyone thinks they're sending too many emails, but according to Jay Schwedelson and Daniel Murray, the truth is you're probably not sending enough. In this Bathroom Break episode, the duo dives into the myths around email frequency, timing, and those dreaded unsubscribes. They share hot takes, real data, and a few caffeine-fueled truths about what really keeps your emails in the inbox (and your audience engaged).Follow Daniel on LinkedIn and check out The Marketing Millennials podcast for sharp, no-fluff marketing insights. Subscribe to Ari Murray's newsletter at gotomillions.co for sharp, actionable marketing insights.Best Moments:(01:05) Jay admits to skipping a VIP dinner for room service and honesty wins the night(03:12) Why sending more emails actually improves open rates and inbox placement(06:40) The myth of the “best day and time” to send emails and why variety wins(09:22) How AI tools can now auto-time your email sends to each subscriber's habits(13:00) Unsubscribes aren't bad—they can be a sign your content finally stood out(16:44) Relevancy and frequency are a power couple—great content earns more sends(19:55) Daniel shares the real cost of parenting on six Celsius a dayCheck out our 100% FREE + VIRTUAL EVENTS! ->Guru Conference - The World's Largest Virtual EMAIL MARKETING Conference - Nov 6-7!Register here: www.GuruConference.comㅤCheck out Jay's YOUTUBE Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelsonCheck out Jay's TIKTOK: https://www.tiktok.com/@schwedelsonCheck Out Jay's INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/jayschwedelson/ㅤMASSIVE thank you to our Sponsor, Marigold!!Email chaos across campuses, branches, or chapters? Emma by Marigold lets HQ keep control while local teams send on-brand, on-time messages with ease.Podcast & GURU listeners: 50 % off your first 3 months with an annual plan (new customers, 10 k-contact minimum, terms apply).Claim your offer now at jayschwedelson.com/emma

Think you're sending too many emails? Spoiler alert: you're probably not sending enough.  Daniel and Jay bust the email amount myth. They dig into why frequency and relevancy go hand in hand, why “unsubscribes” can actually be a good thing, and how send timing is wildly overrated. More emails = more engagement (when the content doesn't suck).  And, do subject lines and emojis actually matter? They do, and testing them is a way to figure out what actually moves the needle.  If you're a Marketer who wants to lock in on email strategy, this is the episode for you.

How does a 125-year-old brand still manage to feel fresh?  Daniel talks with Dawn Hedgepeth. She shares her unfiltered take on modern marketing, brand love, and the art of staying relevant. From once dreaming of becoming a lawyer to now leading marketing for one of the most iconic brands in the world, Dawn reflects on two decades of lessons in curiosity, creativity, and change.  She dives into how Hanes continues to evolve - from influencer collabs and TikTok Shop to uncovering real consumer insights that drive product improvement.  Plus, how do you keep a 125-year-old brand meaningful? Dawn reveals how using empathy and curiosity are the basis of every good Marketing campaign. If you've ever wondered how to build brands with good bases and a great mission, this episode is for you. Acquired by Atlassian in 2023, Loom is an AI-powered video communication tool for work that lets users record and share videos quickly and easily. Loom helps teams stay connected across time zones and boosts productivity. Visit Loom.com for more information. Follow Dawn: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dawn-hedgepeth/ Follow Daniel: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

After years of digital everything, audiences are craving something real again…and Haley Janisch knows exactly how to deliver it.  As the Head of Creator Community at Kit, Haley has built experiences like Craft and Commerce and Kit Studios that connect creators beyond the screen. In this episode, Haley joins Tamara to unpack the art and strategy behind unforgettable events. They explore why offline connection matters more than ever, how to design experiences that stick in people's minds, and the small details that make a huge difference. You'll also hear the story behind ConvertKit's Taylor Swift–themed studios, why vulnerability creates stronger communities, and how smart marketers should rethink the ROI of events. If you've ever wondered how to build moments people can feel (not just attend) this episode is your blueprint. Follow Haley: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/haley-janicek/ Follow Tamara: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tamaragrominsky/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

When Jay Schwedelson and Daniel Murray swap stories about awkward baby-in-restaurant moments and LinkedIn strategy hacks in the same breath, you know it's going to be entertaining. This Bathroom Break episode takes a surprising turn into how commenting (with memes, images, or one-liners) might actually beat posting when it comes to growing on LinkedIn.ㅤFollow Daniel on LinkedIn and check out The Marketing Millennials podcast for sharp, no-fluff marketing insights. Subscribe to Ari Murray's newsletter at gotomillions.co for sharp, actionable marketing insights.ㅤBest Moments:(02:15) Daniel reveals why LinkedIn's new comment impressions feature is a signal you should lean into comments.(03:30) How using memes and images in comments outperformed posts for The Marketing Millennials.(04:25) Why comments can act like mini-posts that spark conversations and visibility.(05:45) A smart way to use comments to test content ideas before posting them officially.(07:15) Daniel shares how this commenting strategy fueled faster LinkedIn growth than years of posting.(08:45) Jay's kids roast his “embarrassing” LinkedIn one-liners.ㅤCheck out our 100% FREE + VIRTUAL EVENTS! ->Guru Conference - The World's Largest Virtual EMAIL MARKETING Conference - Nov 6-7!Register here: www.GuruConference.comㅤCheck out Jay's YOUTUBE Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelsonCheck out Jay's TIKTOK: https://www.tiktok.com/@schwedelsonCheck Out Jay's INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/jayschwedelson/ㅤMASSIVE thank you to our Sponsor, Marigold!!Email chaos across campuses, branches, or chapters? Emma by Marigold lets HQ keep control while local teams send on-brand, on-time messages with ease.Podcast & GURU listeners: 50 % off your first 3 months with an annual plan (new customers, 10 k-contact minimum, terms apply).Claim your offer now at jayschwedelson.com/emma

Want to grow faster on LinkedIn without burning out on daily posts? It's all in the comments section.  Daniel and Jay share how a comment-first strategy helped The Marketing Millennials gain thousands of new followers in a single year, outpacing traditional posting.  Daniel reveals how LinkedIn's new comment impressions feature signals a shift: comments can now generate as much or more reach than traditional posts. Comments can act like “mini-posts” inside someone else's thread. Plus, how do you take advantage of adding images to your comments? Comments that have memes or quick insights perform better than text-only. They also give you a chance to test ideas in comments before committing to a full company post. If you're a Marketer looking to up your LinkedIn engagement, this is the episode for you.

What happens when a Microsoft marketer takes TikTok-style humor to LinkedIn?  Viral growth, 35K+ followers, and a whole new playbook for B2B content. Daniel sits down with Heike Young, content leader at Microsoft, former Salesforce veteran, and one of LinkedIn's most recognizable creators. Heike has built an engaged audience by proving that professional content doesn't have to be boring. Heike opens up about her journey: from editing For Dummies books and running social at Salesforce, to reinventing herself as a LinkedIn video creator who blends humor, relatability, and practical insights. You'll hear: > Why low-fidelity, authentic content often outperforms polished, high-budget productions. > How to bring humor and personality into B2B without losing credibility. > The step-by-step playbook for individuals who want to build their personal brand on LinkedIn. If you're planning on scaling your B2B brand through social content, this is the episode for you.  Acquired by Atlassian in 2023, Loom is an AI-powered video communication tool for work that lets users record and share videos quickly and easily. Trusted by millions of users across 400,000 companies, Loom is improving how teams communicate. Visit Loom.com and get started.  Follow Heike: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heikeyoung/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Think you know your customer? You might be wrong. And that's costing you.  Daniel sits down with Rachel Waldstein, VP of Global Strategic Consulting at Wunderkind, to explore how today's top brands balance personalization and privacy.  Money isn't the only currency around here…it's also about trust. Rachel walks through how Marketers can collect and activate first-party data without crossing the line, and how to shift KPIs as privacy regulations and platform changes reshape what really matters. And, Rachel describes her 15-touch customer path: a plan to meet customers where they are located. From email to SMS, to scouring Reddit pages and beyond, where are your customers located? How does AI play a role in this? If you're planning on using customer data to drive decisions AND care about their privacy while doing your job, this is the episode for you.  Wunderkind is a global performance marketing solution powered by AI, data, and identity. To learn more, visit: https://www.wunderkind.co/ Follow Rachel: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rachel-waldstein/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Travel hacks, Instagram secrets, and even a little Miami tourism pitch sneak their way into this Bathroom Break episode with Jay Schwedelson and Daniel Murray. Between Jay's “carry-on only and lie about parties” conference survival guide and Daniel's Instagram growth tricks, this one's packed with fast, practical tips you'll actually want to try.ㅤBest Moments:(01:04) Jay reveals why he hates travel now and the sneaky way he skips event invites(02:21) Daniel shares the story reply trick that gets 4–5x more engagement than link clicks(04:20) The frustrating new Instagram banner format and why you should still test it(05:30) Jay points out you can now pin your own comments to posts for extra visibility(06:30) Daniel explains why captions matter for SEO and why hashtags are basically dead(08:28) Daniel defends Miami summers and why the Florida heat is overhatedㅤCheck out our 100% FREE + VIRTUAL EVENTS! ->Guru Conference - The World's Largest Virtual EMAIL MARKETING Conference - Nov 6-7!Register here: www.GuruConference.comㅤCheck out Jay's YOUTUBE Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelsonCheck out Jay's TIKTOK: https://www.tiktok.com/@schwedelsonCheck Out Jay's INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/jayschwedelson/ㅤMASSIVE thank you to our Sponsor, Marigold!!Email chaos across campuses, branches, or chapters? Emma by Marigold lets HQ keep control while local teams send on-brand, on-time messages with ease.Podcast & GURU listeners: 50 % off your first 3 months with an annual plan (new customers, 10 k-contact minimum, terms apply).Claim your offer now at jayschwedelson.com/emma

Instagram is always changing. So, it's time to optimize your content.  Daniel and Jay break down the newest Instagram updates and share the practical strategies driving serious growth right now: reply-driven stories, banners, and even pinning comments are doing numbers.  Plus, should you prioritize SEO-friendly captions or chase hashtags? Captions are the way to go…and hashtags are on their way out.  If you're a Marketer looking to beat the algorithm, get more eyeballs on your content, and convert viewers, this is the episode for you.

Think cloud security is boring? Think again. Daniel talks with Tom Orbach, Director of Growth Marketing at Wiz and creator of the Marketing Ideas newsletter. His mission? Make “boring” impossible to ignore. Tom reveals the three-step framework he's used to turn a quiet cybersecurity brand into a social-media magnet: Humor. Participation. Status. He drops real examples you can steal: a CISO Toy Store, a cybersecurity musical, even a meditation app for stressed-out security leaders. These stunts turned brand awareness into fuel for sales and made Wiz the name everyone in cloud security knows. Whether you market SaaS, finance, or any “too serious” industry, this conversation proves “boring” can be exciting if you know how to Market your brand. If you want your brand to get noticed, talked about, and remembered, this episode is for you.  Atlassian is made for teams. Organize, collaborate, and manage work with a suite of tools that include Jira, Confluence, Trello, and more. To learn about how Atlassian can change the game for your team, go to https://www.atlassian.com/ Follow Tom: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomorbach/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

A lot of customers add items to their carts, but never buy. It's time to fix that.  Daniel is joined by Brian Best, current Senior CRM Lead @ Samsung. They talk about the impending holiday season (yes, it's right around the corner) and how you can pull shoppers back in using CRM and retargeting strategies.  Brian talks about making SMS, push, and email into a seamless journey, even if we're trained to think they're separate items. This journey also works for retargeting. With things like smart emails to category-specific nudges, you can move customers down the funnel…and have them coming back for more.  Plus, what's the deal with customer lifetime value? How do you even calculate it? CLV should drive every decision you make, especially around the holiday season. Staying at the top of your customers' minds should be your priority.  Whether you're gearing up for Black Friday or building year-round retention, this is the episode for you.  Wunderkind is a global performance marketing solution powered by AI, data, and identity. To learn more, visit: https://www.wunderkind.co/ Follow Brian: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brian-r-best/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Parenting mishaps, exploding diapers, and even a surprise bird incident somehow all tie back to smart marketing takeaways in this Bathroom Break collab between Jay Schwedelson and Daniel Murray. From no-scroll forms that skyrocket conversions to why your CTA button text might be killing deals, this one is equal parts messy, funny, and surprisingly useful.ㅤFollow Daniel on LinkedIn and check out The Marketing Millennials podcast for sharp, no-fluff marketing insights. Subscribe to Ari Murray's newsletter at gotomillions.co for sharp, actionable marketing insights.ㅤBest Moments:(01:00) Daniel's first baby carrier experience turns into a poop explosion mid-call(02:56) Jay reveals how a no-scroll form boosted conversions by 60 percent(03:35) Daniel explains why two-step forms make capturing emails easier(05:00) Why quantifiable testimonials beat generic praise every time(06:45) The danger of weak offers like “Request a demo” and how to make them action-based(07:12) Why your CTA button text should never just say “Submit”(07:30) Small copy details that build trust, like time estimates and progress bars(12:13) Jay shares his own “bathroom break” moment courtesy of a birdㅤCheck out our 100% FREE + VIRTUAL EVENTS! ->Guru Conference - The World's Largest Virtual EMAIL MARKETING Conference - Nov 6-7!Register here: www.GuruConference.comㅤCheck out Jay's YOUTUBE Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelsonCheck out Jay's TIKTOK: https://www.tiktok.com/@schwedelsonCheck Out Jay's INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/jayschwedelson/ㅤMASSIVE thank you to our Sponsor, Marigold!!Email chaos across campuses, branches, or chapters? Emma by Marigold lets HQ keep control while local teams send on-brand, on-time messages with ease.Podcast & GURU listeners: 50 % off your first 3 months with an annual plan (new customers, 10 k-contact minimum, terms apply).Claim your offer now at jayschwedelson.com/emma

A baby blowout, a bird bomb, and a masterclass in making people click “yes.” Jay and Daniel go over parenting woes, bird mishaps, and how to get people to actually fill out your forms. Ever heard of a no-scroll tactic? Jay shares how it boosted conversions by 60%. Daniel also shares how his two-step tactic is more effective than forms with 4-5 steps.  Ever felt like filling out a form takes too much time? As Marketers, you can always use microcopy like “this takes 30 seconds” to reassure your audience. Plus, how do you create the best CTA possible? If you're a Marketer looking to come up with better forms AND have them convert, this is the episode for you.

Think AI is just for coming up with hooks and generating images? Think again.  Daniel sits down with Phil Lakin, Head of Enterprise Innovation at Zapier, to reveal how marketers can turn AI into a measurable growth engine, partner, and automation tool. Phil breaks down the biggest mistakes teams make when adding AI to their workflows. What does mapping have to do with automation? Turns out, you should map workflows manually before implementing anything AI-related. He also shares quick wins that save Marketers 20-40 hours a week. Plus, who should lead the charge? Daniel and Phil discuss how the next leaders in AI will be skilled people managers who know how to guide and evaluate a team of digital agents just as they would human employees. If you're ready to make AI a trusted partner and part of your workflow, this is the episode for you.  Check out Zapier + build and ship AI workflows in minutes: https://zapier.com/ Zapier has nearly 8,000 integrations, so you can automate with AI without relying on engineering. That means you can roll out AI-powered workflows that do real work across your whole company in minutes, not weeks. Turn disconnected data into lush campaign insights, automate your sales outreach and follow-up, and clear your IT ticket queue faster. The possibilities are endless. Follow Phil: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/philip-lakin/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

BFCM is the Super Bowl of ecom. Do you have your game plan? In this episode, Daniel and Tim (VP of Digital, Content, and AI at Wunderkind) discuss how the smartest brands are turning anonymous visitors into lifelong customers…and doing it automatically. If you're still blasting the same email to everyone, you're leaving mountains of revenue on the table. Tim breaks down how AI decisioning engines pinpoint exactly when and how to reach each shopper, creating hyper-personalized messages that convert at lightning speed.  Also, should you be totally transparent about pricing in the age of taxes and tariffs? What does it mean to be mobile-first as a brand? They explain how all of it matters in the long run for trust and staying top-of-mind.  If you're ready to move past spray-and-pray marketing this BFCM and start selling to people for life, this is the episode for you.  Check out Wunderkind and their Agentic AI capabilities: https://www.wunderkind.co/ Follow Tim: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/timglomb/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Riding in a driverless car might not sound like the ideal place to kick off a marketing chat, but Jay Schwedelson and Daniel Murray made it work. Between sweating it out in a Waymo and figuring out how to breathe again, they got into why Reddit is one of the most powerful (and underused) platforms for marketers. From spotting trends before they hit the mainstream to actually listening in on real customer pain points, this episode shows why ignoring Reddit means missing big opportunities.ㅤFollow Daniel on LinkedIn and check out The Marketing Millennials podcast for sharp, no-fluff marketing insights. Subscribe to Ari Murray's newsletter at gotomillions.co for sharp, actionable marketing insights.ㅤBest Moments:(00:45) Trapped in a Waymo, overheating, and questioning life choices(02:15) Daniel explains why he always adds “Reddit” to his Google searches(04:15) Jay shares how to use ChatGPT prompts to surface top Reddit threads(06:15) Daniel points out that Reddit conversations move faster than any other platform(07:00) Jay's Google search hack for finding Reddit content directly(08:45) Why Reddit forces marketers to earn credibility instead of faking it(09:45) The surprising safety and social perks of choosing Waymo over UberㅤCheck out our 100% FREE + VIRTUAL EVENTS! ->Guru Conference - The World's Largest Virtual EMAIL MARKETING Conference - Nov 6-7!Register here: www.GuruConference.comㅤCheck out Jay's YOUTUBE Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelsonCheck out Jay's TIKTOK: https://www.tiktok.com/@schwedelsonCheck Out Jay's INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/jayschwedelson/ㅤMASSIVE thank you to our Sponsor, Marigold!!Email chaos across campuses, branches, or chapters? Emma by Marigold lets HQ keep control while local teams send on-brand, on-time messages with ease.Podcast & GURU listeners: 50 % off your first 3 months with an annual plan (new customers, 10 k-contact minimum, terms apply).Claim your offer now at jayschwedelson.com/emma

Reporting live from a sweaty Waymo in San Francisco, Daniel and Jay ask an important question: Are you using Reddit to your brand's advantage? With a few minutes and the right subreddits, you can figure out trends before they appear on TikTok and Instagram, engage with other users in niche communities, and even hear about customer pain points so you can avoid them as much as possible. There are paid ad opportunities, too. And, do you need a huge following on Reddit? You don't need a zillion followers like Instagram to get likes on your posts. It's totally different and 100% useful.  If you're a Marketer looking to do more research and run some tests, this is the episode for you.

What does the future of marketing look like when every employee has AI agents as teammates? In this episode, Daniel and Slack CMO Ryan Gavin break down how AI and agentic tools are transforming the way we work, collaborate, and create value.  From using Slack AI to instantly access a company's “long-term memory,” to deploying engineering agents that save millions of hours, Ryan shares practical examples of how AI-first thinking is reshaping marketing, sales, and productivity. And, why do marketers need a beginner's mindset in an AI-driven world? Things are changing, including how we rethink email and customer journeys with agents at the center. Ryan also explains the cultural shift needed for teams to embrace AI (moving from doers of tasks to orchestrators of work) and why he believes “marketing is the product, and the product is the marketing.” If you want to understand how AI will change your role, your team, and your company in the next five years, this episode is a roadmap for thriving in the era of agent-first marketing. Follow Ryan: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-gavin-seattle/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials More at www.workweek.com

What really gets you promoted and what keeps you stuck? Daniel's OUT, Tamara's IN. She's joined by Maya Grossman, ex-Google and Microsoft turned CEO and career coach. From the “mid-management loop” to the myths about MBAs and hard work, Maya shares the lessons she learned after 17 promotion rejections on her way to VP. So what actually gets you promoted? Together, Tamara and Maya dig into the real drivers of career growth: shifting from execution to strategy, learning how to say no without guilt, and developing the kind of executive presence that makes leaders see you as ready for more. If you've ever felt like you're doing everything right but still not moving up, this episode will change how you think about advancement. It's not about working harder, it's about working differently. Follow Maya: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mayagrossman/ Follow Tamara: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tamaragrominsky/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

What can we learn from brands like Magic Spoon and other disruptors? Daniel's OUT, Tamara's IN. And just like last episode, she's got Louis Grenier on deck with his stand the f*ck out mantra. Who are the brands that are actually standing out, and what can we learn from them?  Turns out, category creation might be a myth. Instead, Louis explains the power of subcategories and how smart positioning borrows from what customers already know and buy. And, where IS everyone? Tamara and Louis break down the Marketing science behind the concept of continuous reach.   If you're a marketer who wants to build a brand people actually remember when it comes time to purchase, this episode is for you. Follow Louis: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louisgrenier/ Follow Tamara: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tamaragrominsky/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Parenting hacks, diaper duty, and unsubscribe spikes all in one bathroom break? Yep. Jay Schwedelson and Daniel Murray manage to mix dad life with marketing reality in this episode, digging into why unsubscribes peak at the end of the year and what smart marketers should (and shouldn't) do about it. It's funny, a little chaotic, and surprisingly reassuring if you've ever stared at your dashboard panicking over lost subscribers.ㅤBest Moments:(01:00) Daniel shares the highs of new fatherhood and the lows of no sleep(01:23) Using ChatGPT for parenting questions from formula to baby sleep(02:11) Diaper changes as a volume game and a proud dad metric(02:45) Jay explains why unsubscribes spike 200%+ in Q4(03:16) Daniel on welcome offers and why your next deal must beat the first one(06:26) The myth of “AI-written” newsletters and how readers misjudge tone(08:00) Retention curves show when unsubscribes actually stabilize(09:14) Daniel sets firm baby visitor rules: wash hands, no kissing, Tdap requiredㅤCheck out our 100% FREE + VIRTUAL EVENTS! ->Guru Conference - The World's Largest Virtual EMAIL MARKETING Conference - Nov 6-7!Register here: www.GuruConference.comㅤCheck out Jay's YOUTUBE Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelsonCheck out Jay's TIKTOK: https://www.tiktok.com/@schwedelsonCheck Out Jay's INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/jayschwedelson/ㅤMASSIVE thank you to our Sponsor, Marigold!!Email chaos across campuses, branches, or chapters? Emma by Marigold lets HQ keep control while local teams send on-brand, on-time messages with ease.Podcast & GURU listeners: 50 % off your first 3 months with an annual plan (new customers, 10 k-contact minimum, terms apply).Claim your offer now at jayschwedelson.com/emma

New baby, new perspective, and yes, even unsubscribes can teach you something.  In this episode, Daniel shows up as a first-time dad, running on no sleep but plenty of diaper-changing reps, while Jay brings the unsubscriber data that'll make any marketer stop panicking and start paying attention. Why do consumers ghost after the welcome offer? What's unsubscribe season and how can we prepare for it? They break it down.  And, Daniel also gets candid about his newsletter hitting 150,000+ subscribers and the hilarious side effect of readers accusing him of using AI just because of emojis and dashes. He sets the record straight why it's totally fine if people unsubscribe. It means the right audience sticks around longer. If you're a Marketer looking to stop panicking when people leave your list, this is the episode for you.

What does it really take to stand out in a crowded market? Daniel's OUT, Tamara's IN. She's joined by Louis Grenier to unpack his philosophy of “standing the f*ck out.”  From his contrarian roots to lessons learned at Hotjar and beyond, Louis shares core questions every marketer must answer, why traditional personas fall short, and how to create positioning that actually gives customers a reason to choose you. And, what's the role of product marketing? What's the difference between segmentation vs. belonging? Tamara and Louis reveal their answers and even share some hills they're dying on.  If you're a marketer who wants to build a brand people actually remember, this episode is for you. Follow Louis: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louisgrenier/ Follow Tamara: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tamaragrominsky/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Public speaking can feel terrifying or electric depending on who you are, and that's exactly what makes this episode so fun. Jay Schwedelson and Daniel Murray swap raw, honest tips on what actually works when you're about to face an audience—whether it's a Zoom call, a boardroom, or a 12,000-person conference stage. From practicing in chaos to ditching those dreaded agenda slides, they get real about how to keep both yourself and your audience engaged.ㅤBest Moments:(01:00) Jay opens up about his new book, imposter syndrome, and why all proceeds go to cancer research(02:16) Daniel shares why he always rehearses the morning of a talk to calm nerves(03:00) Jay explains why you should practice speeches with background noise to prepare for real-life distractions(04:15) Daniel talks about using word cues instead of memorizing to stay flexible on stage(05:19) Jay calls out the boring “seven things I'll cover” slide that loses audiences instantly(06:18) Daniel stresses trimming tips down to avoid rushing and keep talks tight(07:15) Jay warns against using unexplained acronyms that can alienate people in the room(09:05) Daniel admits to sweating it out pre-stage while Jay thrives on energy and conversation to stay looseㅤCheck out our 100% FREE + VIRTUAL EVENTS! ->Guru Conference - The World's Largest Virtual EMAIL MARKETING Conference - Nov 6-7!Register here: www.GuruConference.comㅤCheck out Jay's YOUTUBE Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelsonCheck out Jay's TIKTOK: https://www.tiktok.com/@schwedelsonCheck Out Jay's INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/jayschwedelson/ㅤMASSIVE thank you to our Sponsor, Marigold!!Email chaos across campuses, branches, or chapters? Emma by Marigold lets HQ keep control while local teams send on-brand, on-time messages with ease.Podcast & GURU listeners: 50 % off your first 3 months with an annual plan (new customers, 10 k-contact minimum, terms apply).Claim your offer now at jayschwedelson.com/emma

What's scarier: writing a book when you swear you're borderline illiterate… or standing on stage in front of 12,000 people at Inbound?  Daniel and Jay get real about public speaking. The wins, the disasters, and the stuff nobody tells you before you grab the mic. You'll hear Jay's wild journey writing his new book Stupider People Have Done It (all proceeds go to cancer research), plus the exact tips they use to survive the spotlight without crashing and burning.  Why shouldn't you memorize your talk? Turns out, it's a fast track to boring. Daniel and Jay spill their best hacks for calming nerves, making a real human connection with your audience, and actually keeping people awake during your talk. If you've ever broken into a sweat before a presentation, rushed through too many slides, or wondered what to do with your hands while you're talking, this one's for you.

Webinars are everywhere, but most marketers are doing them wrong.  In this episode, Daniel sits down with Logan Lyles, founder of Demand Shift, to break down the Webinar Fast Track Framework and how to turn sign-ups into real results.  From the #1 mistake B2B brands make, to building a series that actually converts, Logan shares how to rethink promotion, registration flows, live engagement, and repurposing content. You'll learn: > Why most webinar strategies fail to deliver sales opportunities > How to design titles, graphics, and landing pages that actually drive clicks > The two-step registration hack that 5–10x's booked calls > Ways to boost live attendance with polls, exclusives, and giveaways > How to repurpose webinars into endless content fuel If you're a Marketer who wants to host better (and more engaging live events), this is the episode for YOU. Follow Logan: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/loganlyles/ Follow Daniel: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

AI is changing Marketing faster than ever, but it doesn't have to be intimidating. Daniel's OUT, Tamara's IN…and she's got product marketer, startup veteran, and AI enthusiast Michelle Nieberding to talk about how to bring more play and less panic into experimenting with AI. Michelle shares the story of how necessity at a small startup led her to explore AI tools, and why she now treats testing new tech as both a professional advantage and a personal hobby. So, what are some ways to start using it? Marketers can repurpose webinars into social clips, and analyze customer feedback, and even rethink how KPIs get tracked. Plus, how does she feel about AI agents? Michelle explains her take.  If you've ever wondered how to get started with AI in your work, or just want one new tool to test this week, this is the episode for you.  Follow Michele: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michele-nieberding/ Follow Tamara: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tamaragrominsky/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Sometimes marketing gold shows up when you're not even planning to work. Jay Schwedelson and Daniel Murray pulled in a surprise guest – Daniel's far better half, Ari Murray – and ended up with a masterclass on landing page mistakes you're probably making. From why mobile-first design isn't optional to the sneaky ways widgets can ruin conversions, Ari drops quick, practical fixes that will actually make you money. Plus, you'll hear some surprisingly competitive trivia about birthdays, cakes, and who's the real GOAT in the relationship.ㅤBest Moments:(01:34) Why designing for mobile should be your first priority for any landing page(02:46) The case for full screen popups instead of small mobile forms(03:55) How a two step form can capture more data without killing conversions(05:34) Why birthday and half birthday emails are worth adding to your marketing(08:03) The widget mistake that silently kills your landing page performanceㅤFollow Daniel on LinkedIn and check out The Marketing Millennials podcast for sharp, no-fluff marketing insights. Subscribe to Ari Murray's newsletter at gotomillions.co for sharp, actionable marketing insights.ㅤCheck out our 100% FREE + VIRTUAL EVENTS! ->Guru Conference - The World's Largest Virtual EMAIL MARKETING Conference - Nov 6-7!Register here: www.GuruConference.comㅤCheck out Jay's YOUTUBE Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelsonCheck out Jay's TIKTOK: https://www.tiktok.com/@schwedelsonCheck Out Jay's INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/jayschwedelson/ㅤMASSIVE thank you to our Sponsor, Marigold!!Email chaos across campuses, branches, or chapters? Emma by Marigold lets HQ keep control while local teams send on-brand, on-time messages with ease.Podcast & GURU listeners: 50 % off your first 3 months with an annual plan (new customers, 10 k-contact minimum, terms apply).Claim your offer now at jayschwedelson.com/emma

What makes a landing page irresistible? Should your pop-ups always take over the whole screen? And is it actually worth asking for birthdays and half birthdays on your forms? Jay, Daniel, and their first-ever Bathroom Break guest Ari Murray break down the art of building better landing pages.  From mobile-first design to when a two-step form makes sense, Ari shares the little details that make a big difference in conversions. The truth? Too many brands ignore the basics, like where the CTA sits or how widgets block the cart. Plus, Ari and Daniel go head-to-head over birthday traditions, Jay confesses his love for coconut cake, and we find out which celebrity shares Ari's birthday. This short ‘n sweet Bathroom Break is for marketers, growth hackers, and anyone who wants more clicks, sign-ups, and sales.

What do Michael Kors, Blue Nile, and Typeform have in common? More than you'd think. Daniel's OUT, Tamara's IN. She's joined by Kevin Branscum, a brand leader who's worked across fashion, luxury, and B2B SaaS. Together, they explore why the best brands aren't built on features or functions but on feelings, cultural awareness, and creativity. What can SaaS and B2B Marketers learn from fashion CMOs? Turns out, there's a similar connection between people and software beyond just its practical use. Research should go beyond product usage into the real lives of customers. And, Brand can (and should) be an “always on” refresh. They also dig into how to avoid the copycat trap of competitor marketing and why taste might just be the most important marketing skill in the AI era. If you're a marketer who wants to build a brand people actually connect with, this episode is for you. Follow Kevin: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinbranscum/ Follow Tamara: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tamaragrominsky/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Ever wonder why so much marketing messaging sounds impressive but leaves you cold? That's because most brands are talking to themselves instead of the people they're trying to reach. Daniel's out, Tamara's IN. Messaging strategist and author Emma Stratton joins Tamara to break down how to flip your copy from inside out to outside in so it speaks directly to what your audience cares about. Emma suggests saying things like you actually mean them with her “say it like you would at a barbecue” rule. It's time to ditch jargon and make your value obvious.  Plus, is AI a writer or a thought partner? Truth is, AI is the latter. Emma and Tamara share their opinions on when and how to use it.  If you're a Marketer who wants to write better copy and craft better messages, this is the episode for YOU. Follow Emma: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/emma-stratton-punchy/ Follow Tamara: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tamaragrominsky/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Sometimes the best career advice isn't the polished stuff you find in books, but the off-the-radar tips you'd swap with a friend on a coffee break. Jay Schwedelson and Daniel Murray are back with another “Bathroom Break” to spill the unconventional moves that can get you a better job, a promotion, or just out of a toxic workplace faster. From stealth edits to your resume to the surprisingly simple way to jump the hiring line, this one's full of the kind of practical, slightly rebellious strategies you'll actually use.ㅤBest Moments:(02:00) Why removing your graduation year from LinkedIn can sidestep age bias(03:01) The surprising advantage of applying for jobs while you still have one(04:00) Why you should never turn down an interview, even if you're not looking(04:45) How tailoring your resume to the job description gets you past the first screen(06:00) The DM trick that gets your application noticed by the hiring manager(07:15) Using LinkedIn connections to get insider info before applying(07:30) Building a personal brand as your long-term career cheat codeㅤFollow Daniel on LinkedIn and check out The Marketing Millennials podcast for sharp, no-fluff marketing insights.ㅤCheck out our 100% FREE + VIRTUAL EVENTS! ->Guru Conference - The World's Largest Virtual EMAIL MARKETING Conference - Nov 6-7!Register here: www.GuruConference.comㅤCheck out Jay's YOUTUBE Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelsonCheck out Jay's TIKTOK: https://www.tiktok.com/@schwedelsonCheck Out Jay's INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/jayschwedelson/ㅤMASSIVE thank you to our Sponsor, Marigold!!Email chaos across campuses, branches, or chapters? Emma by Marigold lets HQ keep control while local teams send on-brand, on-time messages with ease.Podcast & GURU listeners: 50 % off your first 3 months with an annual plan (new customers, 10 k-contact minimum, terms apply).Claim your offer now at jayschwedelson.com/emma

What's the secret to getting a job in Marketing? Should you really take your graduation years out of your LinkedIn info? Why was Jay running the security desk at the YMCA at only 14?  Daniel and Jay break down their job search tips and promotion tricks. From tailoring your resume to building your personal brand, a lot goes into your career moves.  The truth? The best time to look for a job is while you still have one. Plus, Jay has a take: you don't need to stay somewhere for a year before looking elsewhere.  And, Daniel mentions you should take every interview, even if you don't want the job…you'll never know what'll happen until you give it a chance.  This short ‘n sweet Bathroom Break is for job hunters, people aiming for a promotion, or if you're just thinking about your next move.

Behavioral science holds the keys to some of the most effective, yet overlooked, marketing strategies. And if you're not thinking about it, you're already behind.  Daniel sits down with Phill Agnew, host of the UK's #1 marketing podcast Nudge, to explore psychological principles that can transform the way you sell.  From why loss aversion outperforms gain framing, to using scarcity without backfiring, to the surprising benefits of admitting your flaws, Phill unpacks examples and research-backed tactics you can apply today. And, what's up with Phill's reading list? He breaks down why you should read the 25 on his list…and why there are 5 to avoid.  If you're a Marketer who wants to understand the WHY behind your customers' decisions, this is the episode for YOU. Follow Phill: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/phill-agnew/?originalSubdomain=uk Phill's 25 Books to Read (And 5 to Avoid): https://nudge.kit.com/reading-list Follow Daniel: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennialsDaniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Search is changing for the first time since Google launched. And it's changing fast. Daniel's out, Tamara's IN. In this episode, she sits down with Nick Lafferty, Growth Marketer at Profound, to unpack the seismic shift from traditional SEO to AI-powered search engines like ChatGPT, Perplexity, and Google's AI Overviews. Nick shares what's broken about search today, how conversational AI is replacing “tin blue links” with direct answers, and why organic traffic is dropping across industries. Plus, where does AI pull its answers from? Nick gives a breakdown of its sources and why now is the time to experiment with new strategies.  If you're a Marketer who wants to stay ahead of the curve, this is the episode for YOU. Follow Nick: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicklafferty/ Follow Tamara: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tamaragrominsky/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: www.workweek.com

Sometimes your best growth comes from your worst flops. On this Bathroom Break edition, Jay Schwedelson and Daniel Murray get real about failure in marketing—not just accepting it, but planning for it, documenting it, and even celebrating it. From botched campaigns to abandoned social channels, they dig into why marketers should embrace failure as a feature, not a bug.ㅤBest Moments:(01:41) If you're not comfortable with failure, you're not going to grow—period(02:49) Bad marketing often just gets ignored, so most people never even see your misses(03:30) Not documenting failures is worse than failing itself(04:20) You have to create a culture where sharing mistakes doesn't feel risky(05:00) Every campaign should have a clear kill switch—don't let it drag on(06:15) The Guru Awards launch flopped fast, and that was the win(07:00) Letting go of TikTok let Marketing Millennials double down on what was working(08:00) Keto, Barry's, vegetarian… personal flops can be just as revealingㅤFollow Daniel on LinkedIn and check out The Marketing Millennials podcast for sharp, no-fluff marketing insights.ㅤCheck out our 100% FREE + VIRTUAL EVENTS! ->Guru Conference - The World's Largest Virtual EMAIL MARKETING Conference - Nov 6-7!Register here: www.GuruConference.comㅤCheck out Jay's YOUTUBE Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelsonCheck out Jay's TIKTOK: https://www.tiktok.com/@schwedelsonCheck Out Jay's INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/jayschwedelson/ㅤMASSIVE thank you to our Sponsor, Marigold!!Email chaos across campuses, branches, or chapters? Emma by Marigold lets HQ keep control while local teams send on-brand, on-time messages with ease.Podcast & GURU listeners: 50 % off your first 3 months with an annual plan (new customers, 10 k-contact minimum, terms apply).Claim your offer now at jayschwedelson.com/emma

Most of your marketing is going to fail. And that's not a problem…unless you pretend it didn't. Daniel and Jay get honest about falling on your face and getting back up again.  Jay breaks down how even “successful” metrics, like a 47% open rate, are still rooted in failure and why marketers need to get comfortable with those numbers if they ever want to grow.  Daniel emphasizes the importance of creating a culture where failure is analyzed and shared. And, they explore how holding onto a bad idea can drain budgets, tank morale, and stop better ideas from getting the attention they deserve. How do you pick things up when it seems like a failure?  This short ‘n sweet Bathroom Break is all about going when the going gets tough.

Templates may save time, but do they kill your creativity? That's the debate Jay Schwedelson and Daniel Murray dive into during this Bathroom Break collab. They get real about why marketers rely on templates, how they backfire, and when it actually makes sense to break the rules. Plus, a tangent about AI glasses you didn't know you needed.ㅤBest Moments:(01:45) Jay compares buying the same shirt to marketers clinging to templates.(02:30) Daniel explains why canned templates make brands invisible on social feeds.(03:36) Jay reveals the “new template” trap that lures teams into stale content.(05:15) Daniel shares how custom styles keep newsletters consistent without blending in.(06:00) Jay points out how copying common webinar formats leads straight to “nowheresville.”(06:18) Daniel highlights why unpolished, text-based emails often outperform slick designs.(07:09) The two riff on AI glasses and the future of wearable tech.ㅤFollow Daniel on LinkedIn and check out The Marketing Millennials podcast for sharp, no-fluff marketing insights.ㅤCheck out our 100% FREE + VIRTUAL EVENTS! ->Guru Conference - The World's Largest Virtual EMAIL MARKETING Conference - Nov 6-7!Register here: www.GuruConference.comㅤCheck out Jay's YOUTUBE Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelsonCheck out Jay's TIKTOK: https://www.tiktok.com/@schwedelsonCheck Out Jay's INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/jayschwedelson/ㅤMASSIVE thank you to our Sponsor, Marigold!!Email chaos across campuses, branches, or chapters? Emma by Marigold lets HQ keep control while local teams send on-brand, on-time messages with ease.Podcast & GURU listeners: 50 % off your first 3 months with an annual plan (new customers, 10 k-contact minimum, terms apply).Claim your offer now at jayschwedelson.com/emma

Not gonna lie, this one gets real. Jay Schwedelson and Daniel Murray go beyond the usual follower-count talk to break down what really matters when it comes to audience size—and what doesn't. Social proof, ad credibility, platform strategies, and how to avoid looking like a ghost town brand all come into play. Whether you're trying to grow a brand or just not embarrass yourself online, this one's got some gems.ㅤBest Moments:(00:40) The real reason Jay preps for Q4 months in advance—even if he procrastinates holiday shopping(01:55) Why followers still matter when it comes to legitimacy and social proof(02:54) Jay checks business credibility by LinkedIn followers, not websites(03:49) YouTube Shorts outperforming subscriber-heavy accounts—and why that proves the algorithm has changed(04:30) Why big brands run multiple burner accounts on social to maximize reach(05:15) Running ads? People will click your profile—and your follower count influences their trust(05:45) Followers unlock newsletter and broadcast features you can't fake(06:00) Set a baseline number to avoid looking sketchy—and stop chasing vanity metricsㅤCheck out our 100% FREE + VIRTUAL EVENTS! ->Guru Conference - The World's Largest Virtual EMAIL MARKETING Conference - Nov 6-7!Register here: www.GuruConference.comㅤCheck out Jay's YOUTUBE Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelsonCheck out Jay's TIKTOK: https://www.tiktok.com/@schwedelsonCheck Out Jay's INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/jayschwedelson/ㅤMASSIVE thank you to our Sponsor, Marigold!!Email chaos across campuses, branches, or chapters? Emma by Marigold lets HQ keep control while local teams send on-brand, on-time messages with ease.Podcast & GURU listeners: 50 % off your first 3 months with an annual plan (new customers, 10 k-contact minimum, terms apply).Claim your offer now at jayschwedelson.com/emma

Memes aren't just for Gen Z or internet junkies—they're a real-deal marketing tool, and Jay Schwedelson teams up with Daniel Murray to break down exactly why. From condiment debates to viral ad strategies, they get into how memes can signal audience empathy, drive shares, and even outperform traditional ad formats. If you've ever wondered whether your “serious” brand could pull one off—yep, you probably can.ㅤBest Moments:(02:05) Jay's traumatic first Florida burger with surprise mustard and ketchup(03:00) Daniel explains why memes are the language of the internet(03:45) How to safely create memes without copyright issues or creative risk(04:20) Memes as powerful ad formats that prove you understand your audience(05:26) Why you shouldn't keep using the same carousel over and over(07:15) Jay's trick for finding viral meme formats to recaption for your niche(08:30) How platforms punish watermarked or reposted content(09:05) Want to reuse a hit meme? Resize it first or risk getting throttled(09:57) Daniel's hot take: skip Taco Bell, hit the local burrito jointㅤFollow Daniel on The Marketing Millennials and let him know what you want future bathroom breaks to cover.ㅤCheck out our 100% FREE + VIRTUAL EVENTS! ->Guru Conference - The World's Largest Virtual EMAIL MARKETING Conference - Nov 6-7!Register here: www.GuruConference.comㅤCheck out Jay's YOUTUBE Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelsonCheck out Jay's TIKTOK: https://www.tiktok.com/@schwedelsonCheck Out Jay's INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/jayschwedelson/ㅤMASSIVE thank you to our Sponsor, Marigold!!Email chaos across campuses, branches, or chapters? Emma by Marigold lets HQ keep control while local teams send on-brand, on-time messages with ease.Podcast & GURU listeners: 50 % off your first 3 months with an annual plan (new customers, 10 k-contact minimum, terms apply).Claim your offer now at jayschwedelson.com/emma