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New Year's resolutions are a lovely idea—until life body-checks you in week two. Changing habits takes extra energy: consistency, patience, perseverance, and actual application. The good news? If you're a presenter (or you want to be), you've already got the three levers that move the needle every year: time, talent, and treasure—used wisely, they turn "I should…" into "I did." Why do presenters talk about "time, talent, and treasure" as the big three? Because presentation success is a leverage game: time builds repetition, talent grows through practice, and treasure buys acceleration. In a post-pandemic world of hybrid meetings, global teams, and always-on competition, persuasion is the divider—whether you're pitching internally at Toyota, selling B2B SaaS like Salesforce, or leading change in a mid-sized Australian firm. In Japan, the US, and across Europe, the pattern is consistent: people with clearer messages and stronger delivery get faster alignment. If you can't bring others with you, you end up living inside someone else's agenda. The "time, talent, treasure" model keeps you honest: how much are you practising, what skills are you deliberately developing, and where are you investing to shortcut the learning curve? Do now: Pick one presentation you'll deliver in the next 30 days and allocate time (practice), talent (skill focus), and treasure (tools/coaching) against it—on purpose. How does better use of time make you more persuasive? Time is life, and in presenting, time becomes trust—because repetition turns ideas into instinct. Persuasion isn't magic; it's built from small, consistent reps: clarifying your point, tightening your story, and refining your delivery until it sounds like you, not a script. Compare a startup founder in Silicon Valley to a manager in Tokyo: different cultures, similar pressure. The founder needs speed and punch; the Tokyo manager needs clarity, respect, and structured logic. In both cases, the presenter who rehearses wins—because they can think while speaking, handle questions, and stay calm when the room goes quiet. This is where habit science (think James Clear's "Atomic Habits" approach) helps: schedule short practice sprints, not heroic marathons. Do now: Put 15 minutes on your calendar, three times a week, to rehearse out loud—standing up, with a timer, and one clear "next step" at the end. Is presentation skill natural talent, or can it be learned? Great presenting is learned, not born—confidence is trained, not gifted. Most people aren't "naturals"; they're practised. The fear of embarrassment is real (hello, sweaty palms), but it's also beatable with the right method: structure + repetition + feedback. Look at the ecosystems that consistently produce strong communicators: Toastmasters, TED-style coaching, and frameworks used in leadership training programs like Dale Carnegie. The common denominator is guided practice and measurement—voice pace, eye contact, message structure, audience control. If you're in a multinational, you might get formal training; if you're in an SME, you might rely on YouTube and trial-and-error. Either way, the fastest path is: learn the fundamentals, apply immediately, then refine. Do now: Identify one skill to improve this month (openings, storytelling, slides, Q&A). Record a 2-minute practice video weekly and track one metric (clarity, pace, filler words). How do you build talent without drowning in content overload? Talent grows when you consume less content—but apply more of what matters. Content marketing has made learning ridiculously accessible: YouTube explainers, LinkedIn creators, podcasts on Apple Podcasts and Spotify, courses on Coursera and LinkedIn Learning. That's the upside. The downside? You're drinking from a firehose. The fix is a simple filter: choose one "lane" for 30 days—storytelling, executive presence, sales persuasion, or slide design—and ignore the rest. In the US, people often optimise for charisma; in Japan, audiences often reward clarity, humility, and structure. So your learning plan should match your context and industry (tech, finance, manufacturing, professional services). Quick checklist (use this before you watch anything): Will this help my next presentation in 14 days? Can I practise it within 48 hours? Can I measure improvement (time, audience response, outcomes)? Do now: Commit to one creator/course for 30 days and write one line after each session: "What I will do differently next time." When should you invest money (treasure) in training, coaching, or tools? Spend treasure when it buys speed, feedback, and real-world practice—not just inspiration. Free content is fantastic for discovery, but it rarely gives you personalised correction. Coaching, workshops, and quality programs can compress years of trial-and-error into months—especially when your role requires influence: executives, sales leaders, project managers, and subject-matter experts. Think of it like this: in a startup, treasure might be a pitch coach before a funding round. In a Japanese conglomerate, it might be a structured program to lift manager communication across regions. In Australia, it might be a practical workshop that improves internal briefings and client updates. Tools count too: a decent microphone, a ring light, or a slide template system can make your message land better in remote settings. Do now: Set an annual "persuasion budget" (even a small one). Prioritise: (1) coaching feedback, (2) skills program, (3) delivery tools—then measure ROI by outcomes (wins, approvals, reduced rework). What should leaders and professionals do if their resolutions already derailed? Resetting isn't failure—it's leadership: you regroup, adjust the system, and start again with better context. The people who improve each year aren't perfect; they're consistent about restarting. Presenters especially need this mindset because the stakes keep rising—hybrid audiences, shorter attention spans, and higher expectations for clarity. The practical move is to make "presenting improvement" part of your weekly rhythm, not a motivational burst. Use SMART goals, build tiny habits, and attach practice to something you already do (Monday team meeting, monthly client update, quarterly review). If you're leading others, make it cultural: run short "presentation sprints," rotate who opens meetings, and reward clarity—not just confidence. Do now: Choose one recurring event (weekly meeting or monthly update) and upgrade one element for the next 8 weeks: opening, structure, visuals, or Q&A handling. Conclusion Time, talent, and treasure aren't abstract ideas—they're the knobs you can actually turn. Use time deliberately, nurture talent through applied learning, and invest treasure where it accelerates feedback and skill. And if you've already fallen off the wagon this year? Brilliant. Now you've got data. Reset, refine, and climb the next rung. FAQs How long does it take to become a confident presenter? Most people feel noticeable improvement in 6–8 weeks with consistent practice and feedback. What's the fastest way to sound more persuasive? Tighten your opening: one clear point, one reason it matters, one next step. Do I need expensive training to improve? Not always—start with structured practice, then invest when you need faster progress or personalised correction. What if I'm terrified of public speaking? Start small: 60-second updates, then build duration and complexity while recording and reviewing. Author bio Dr. Greg Story, Ph.D. in Japanese Decision-Making, is President of Dale Carnegie Tokyo Training and Adjunct Professor at Griffith University. He is a two-time winner of the Dale Carnegie "One Carnegie Award" (2018, 2021) and recipient of the Griffith University Business School Outstanding Alumnus Award (2012). As a Dale Carnegie Master Trainer, Greg is certified to deliver globally across all leadership, communication, sales, and presentation programs, including Leadership Training for Results. He has written several books, including three best-sellers — Japan Business Mastery, Japan Sales Mastery, and Japan Presentations Mastery — along with Japan Leadership Mastery and How to Stop Wasting Money on Training. His works have been translated into Japanese, including Za Eigyō (ザ営業), Purezen no Tatsujin (プレゼンの達人), Torēningu de Okane o Muda ni Suru no wa Yamemashō (トレーニングでお金を無駄にするのはやめましょう), and Gendaiban "Hito o Ugokasu" Rīdā (現代版「人を動かす」リーダー). Greg also publishes daily business insights on LinkedIn, Facebook, and Twitter, and hosts six weekly podcasts. On YouTube, he produces The Cutting Edge Japan Business Show, Japan Business Mastery, and Japan's Top Business Interviews, which are widely followed by executives seeking success strategies in Japan.

Brian Halligan co-founded HubSpot, ran it as CEO for about 15 years, and now coaches Sequoia's fastest-growing founders as their in-house CEO coach.We discuss:1. His LOCKS framework for evaluating founders2. Why you should build your team like the 2004 Red Sox3. Why hiring “spicy” candidates beats consensus picks4. Why enterprise sales will be the last white-collar job AI replaces5. Some of my favorite “Halliganisms”—Brought to you by:Sentry—Code breaks, fix it faster: http://sentry.io/lennyDatadog—Now home to Eppo, the leading experimentation and feature flagging platform: https://www.datadoghq.com/lennyWorkOS—Modern identity platform for B2B SaaS, free up to 1 million MAUs: https://workos.com/lenny—Episode transcript: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/sequoia-ceo-coach-why-its-never-been—Archive of all Lenny's Podcast transcripts: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/yxi4s2w998p1gvtpu4193/AMdNPR8AOw0lMklwtnC0TrQ?rlkey=j06x0nipoti519e0xgm23zsn9&st=ahz0fj11&dl=0—Where to find Brian Halligan• X: https://x.com/bhalligan• LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/brianhalligan• Delphi: https://www.delphi.ai/bhalligan• Podcast: https://sequoiacap.com/series/long-strange-trip—Where to find Lenny:• Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com• X: https://twitter.com/lennysan• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/—In this episode, we cover:(00:00) Introduction to Brian Halligan(03:56) The perpetual state of constructive dissatisfaction(05:25) Coaching CEOs(07:49) The art of interviewing and hiring(11:21) Getting the most out of reference calls(13:10) Homegrown talent vs. big company hires(16:31) Traits of successful CEOs(19:40) Brian's LOCKS framework for evaluating founders(21:34) Are great CEO's born or made?(23:41) Giving effective feedback(25:54) The future of go-to-market strategies(31:56) Understanding forward deployed engineers(34:17) How the CEO role has evolved over the last 20 years(38:10) Halliganisms(01:01:18) The CEO's role in scaling a company(01:02:41) Lightning round and final thoughts—Referenced:• Dev Ittycheria on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dittycheria• HubSpot: https://www.hubspot.com• Parker Conrad on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/parkerconrad• McKinsey & Company: https://www.mckinsey.com• Brian Chesky's new playbook: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/brian-cheskys-contrarian-approach• Jensen Huang on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenhsunhuang• Winston Weinberg on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/winston-weinberg• James Cadwallader on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jsca• Gabriel Stengel on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabestengel• He saved OpenAI, invented the “Like” button, and built Google Maps: Bret Taylor on the future of careers, coding, agents, and more: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/he-saved-openai-bret-taylor• Scaling Entrepreneurial Ventures: https://orbit.mit.edu/classes/scaling-entrepreneurial-ventures-15.392• OpenClaw: https://openclaw.ai• Ruth Porat on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ruth-porat• Mike Krzyzewski: https://goduke.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/coaches/mike-krzyzewski/4159• Dalai Lama's 18 Rules for Living: https://www.prm.nau.edu/prm205/Dalai-Lama-18-rules-for-living.htm• Zigging vs. zagging: How HubSpot built a $30B company | Dharmesh Shah (co-founder/CTO): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/lessons-from-30-years-of-building• Kareem Amin on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kareemamin• Glassdoor: https://www.glassdoor.com• Tobi Lütke's leadership playbook: Playing infinite games, operating from first principles, and maximizing human potential (founder and CEO of Shopify): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/tobi-lutkes-leadership-playbook• Katie Burke on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katie-burke-965767a• Jerry Garcia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Garcia• Bob Weir: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Weir• Phil Lesh: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Lesh• Ron “Pigpen” McKernan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_%22Pigpen%22_McKernan• Marc Andreessen: The real AI boom hasn't even started yet: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/marc-andreessen-the-real-ai-boom• The American Revolution: https://www.pbs.org/kenburns/the-american-revolution• Delphi: https://www.delphi.ai• Sonos: https://www.sonos.com• Yamini Rangan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yaminirangan• The Boston Red Sox: https://www.mlb.com/redsox—Recommended book:• Marketing Lessons from the Grateful Dead: What Every Business Can Learn from the Most Iconic Band in History: https://www.amazon.com/Marketing-Lessons-Grateful-Dead-Business/dp/0470900520—Production and marketing by https://penname.co/. For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email podcast@lennyrachitsky.com.—Lenny may be an investor in the companies discussed. To hear more, visit www.lennysnewsletter.com

Welcome to the CanadianSME Small Business Podcast, hosted by Maheen Bari. In this episode, we explore how manual sales orders create hidden bottlenecks for manufacturers and distributors, and how automation can eliminate errors while boosting productivity and margins.Our guest is Scott Parker, Senior Director of Product Marketing at Conexiom. With over 20 years in B2B SaaS, Scott shares how AI powered automation transforms order processing from a messy, error-prone task into a seamless, hands-free workflow.Key HighlightsPMM Perspective: How Scott's diverse background in sales, support, and product shapes complex automation positioning. The Myth of "Good Enough": Why executives often ignore manual processes until costly errors occur. The 100 Spools Nightmare: A real story of how a small error disrupted a distributor's entire customer relationship. AI in Action: How Conexiom ensures order accuracy before data even reaches the ERP system. Frictionless Commerce: What a fully automated, customer-centric order workflow looks like for manufacturers and distributors.Special Thanks to Our Partners:UPS: https://solutions.ups.com/ca-beunstoppable.html?WT.mc_id=BUSMEWAGoogle: https://www.google.ca/A1 Global College: https://a1globalcollege.ca/ADP Canada: https://www.adp.ca/en.aspxFor more expert insights, visit www.canadiansme.ca and subscribe to the CanadianSME Small Business Magazine. Stay innovative, stay informed, and thrive in the digital age!Disclaimer: The information shared in this podcast is for general informational purposes only and should not be considered as direct financial or business advice. Always consult with a qualified professional for advice specific to your situation.

If you're tired of chasing "flash in the pan" tactics that promise overnight results, this episode is your reality check. In this episode of Pipe Dream, host Jason Bradwell sits down with Dev Basu, CEO of Powered by Search, to unpack how to build an inbound-only growth motion that actually compounds over time instead of burning out your team and budget. Dev's core point is clear: stop creating remixable AI content and start building lived-experience content that creates goodwill as a moat. The marketers winning today aren't the ones doing more, they're the ones doing the simple things better and measuring what actually matters. For 16 years, Dev has helped VPs of marketing and CMOs at B2B SaaS companies build predictable pipeline without cold outreach. His approach targets two groups: the 5% in-market demand actively looking for solutions, and the 45% of right-fit customers who don't wake up thinking they need your software but would benefit from it. Dev walks through Powered by Search's playbook, which drives more than half their inbound leads through LinkedIn alone. His SAGE framework (Simple, Actionable, Goal-oriented, Easy to consume) focuses on publishing content about how they've done something, not generic how-to advice. This lived-experience approach can't be copied through ChatGPT or Claude, building genuine goodwill that compounds over time. The conversation breaks down the "do more, do better, do new" framework. Most companies don't need revolutionary tactics, they need to optimise existing channels ruthlessly. AI plays a role, but it's about speed, not strategy. Dev uses AI to accelerate production once they know what good looks like, not to figure out what to say. Then Dev drops the tactical goldmine: the 3x10 rule. Get 10% more right-fit traffic, reduce acquisition cost by 10%, and increase average contract value by 10%. When you stack these three improvements, they compound to roughly 30% more pipeline. He guarantees this in 90 days and explains exactly how, from internal linking to push pages onto page one of Google, to cutting wasted ad spend, to targeting slightly larger companies with higher willingness to pay. If you want a blueprint for building predictable B2B SaaS demand generation without the hype, this conversation delivers. Chapter Markers 00:00 - Introduction: Dev Basu and the inbound-only motion  01:00 - The 5% in-market demand vs 45% right-fit customers  02:00 - Eating your own dog food: How Powered by Search acquires clients  03:00 - The problem with flash in the pan tactics and LinkedIn slop  04:00 - SAGE content framework: Building goodwill as a moat  05:00 - Triangulating attribution to prove LinkedIn drives half the pipeline  06:00 - Lived-experience content you can't remix with AI  08:00 - The playbook: Five pillars of demand generation  13:00 - Do more, do better, do new: The framework for prioritisation  16:00 - Using AI for speed, not strategy  20:00 - Buyer psychology and why nobody wants to "get a demo"  22:00 - The 3x10 rule: 30% more pipeline in 90 days  23:00 - Getting 10% more traffic with simple internal linking  24:00 - Cutting wasted ad spend to reduce CAC by 10%  25:00 - Moving upmarket slightly to increase ACV by 10%  26:00 - The Grand Slam offer and guarantee  27:00 - Where to learn more about Powered by Search Useful Links Connect with Jason Bradwell on LinkedIn Connect with Dev Basu on LinkedIn Learn more about Dev Basu Explore Powered by Search and the Grand Slam Offer Check out Clay for enrichment Explore B2B Better website and the Pipe Dream podcast

Send a textIf you think the future of AI is being decided only in Silicon Valley or Beijing, this conversation will stretch your perspective. Amith Nagarajan and Mallory Mejias sit down with Benjamin “Benji” Rosman—Professor at the University of the Witwatersrand, Founder of the Machine Intelligence and Neural Discovery (MIND) Institute, and recently named to the Time 100 Most Influential People in AI for 2025—to explore how Africa is building its AI ecosystem from the ground up. From the origin story of Deep Learning Indaba (now the largest machine learning summer school in the world) to the concept of algorithmic sovereignty, Benji explains why diversity of thinking fuels scientific breakthroughs, how constraints drive innovation, and why leaders must balance exploration and exploitation in an era of exponential change. 

Most B2B SaaS startups waste their Google Ads budget on broad keywords and homepage traffic without a plan in place. I'll show you exactly how to deploy Google Ads strategically on a low budget by focusing on infrastructure-first deployment that actually drives results.This systematic approach has helped clients generate significant revenue by focusing small budgets on high-intent keywords with the proper infrastructure in place.

SaaStr 841: Going From Blobs to Billions. Clay's Co-Founder Breaks Down Inbound, Outbound, and AI-Powered Sales. Clay's Co-Founder Varun Anand takes the stage at SaaStr to break down how the company went from paying for claymation blobs before generating any revenue to powering growth workflows for companies like Cursor, Anthropic, and Figma. He explains why brand has always been core to Clay's identity, how their CFO roast videos and creative campaigns are actually capturing mindshare in a world where B2B marketing is painfully boring, and why he pushes back on the "use AI for everything" mentality that's taken over the industry. Varun does a full live demo building an inbound qualification workflow from scratch using real audience volunteers, walking through everything from lead enrichment and waterfall data sourcing to AI-powered scoring, personalized meme generation, research brief creation, and CRM updates. He also brings audience members on stage to do live growth hacking for their actual business problems. Beyond the product, this session goes deep on hiring. Varun shares the origin story of the GTM Engineer role, how it went from an internal job title for Clay's non-traditional sales team to the most in-demand position in B2B SaaS, and what he actually looks for when evaluating candidates (hint: it's creativity, not a traditional sales background). He talks about Clay's take-home process, work trials, why they hire generalists who commit to specific roles, and the surprising backgrounds of some of their best hires. Whether you're building out your go-to-market motion, thinking about how to use AI without losing what makes your brand unique, or just trying to figure out what a GTM Engineer actually does, this session covers it all. --------------------- This episode is Sponsored in part by HappyFox: Imagine having AI agents for every support task — one that triages tickets, another that catches duplicates, one that spots churn risks. That'd be pretty amazing, right? HappyFox just made it real with Autopilot. These pre-built AI agents deploy in about 60 seconds and run for as low as 2 cents per successful action. All of it sits inside the HappyFox omnichannel, AI-first support stack — Chatbot, Copilot, and Autopilot working as one. Check them out at happyfox.com/saastr   ---------------------   Hey everybody, the biggest B2B + AI event of the year will be back - SaaStr AI in the SF Bay Area, aka the SaaStr Annual, will be back in May 2026.    With 68% VP-level and above, 36% CEOs and founders and a growing 25% AI-first professional, this is the very best of the best S-tier attendees and decision makers that come to SaaStr each year.     But here's the reality, folks: the longer you wait, the higher ticket prices can get. Early bird tickets are available now, but once they're gone, you'll pay hundreds more so don't wait.    Lock in your spot today by going to podcast.saastrannual.com to get my exclusive discount SaaStr AI SF 2026. We'll see you there.

Are you actually growing your product, or just stacking signups that never turn into usage?A lot of teams get stuck there. More registrations feel good, but it's not the same as real usage, paid adoption, and a pipeline you can trust. And now with AI in the mix, it's easy to create more activity without getting more signal.In this episode of B2B SaaS Marketing Snacks, hosts Stijn Hendrikse and Brian Grav bring on their first guest, Alex Laventer.Alex has spent years in growth roles in B2B SaaS, including leading growth at DataStax and now leading go-to-market work on an AI agent product at IBM.The conversation gets practical fast, what “growth” really means, and how teams split (or combine) growth marketing and product growth.You'll walk away with a clearer way to measure growth, how to set up tracking you can rely on, and where AI can help (and where it tends to distract), including lead scoring and workflow automation.In this episode, you'll learn:Why signups mislead growth conversationsWhere teams lose signal without trackingHow PQLs connect product and marketingPerspective on sales assist with PLGExample: AI-assisted lead scoring workflows By the end, you'll know what to measure, what to ignore, and what to fix next so “growth” stops being a vague label and starts being a real operating system. Resources shared in this episode:BSMS 88 - Why founders overestimate PLG, and what VCs should check before investingBSMS 23 - Product led growth vs. sales led growthThe Foundation of a Successful SaaS GTM (Go-to-Market) Strategy T2D3 CMO MasterclassSubmit and vote on our podcast topicsABOUT B2B SAAS MARKETING SNACKSSince 2020, The B2B SaaS Marketing Snacks Podcast has offered software company founders, investors and leadership a fresh source of insights into building a complete and efficient engine for growth.Meet our Marketing Snacks Podcast Hosts: Stijn Hendrikse: Author of T2D3 Masterclass & Book, Founder of KalungiAs a serial entrepreneur and marketing leader, Stijn has contributed to the success of 20+ startups as a C-level executive, including Chief Revenue Officer of Acumatica, CEO of MightyCall, a SaaS contact center solution, and leading the initial global Go-to-Market for Atera, a B2B SaaS Unicorn. Before focusing on startups, Stijn led global SMB Marketing and B2B Product Marketing for Microsoft's Office platform.Brian Graf: CEO of KalungiAs CEO of Kalungi, Brian provides high-level strategy, tactical execution, and business leadership expertise to drive long-term growth for B2B SaaS. Brian has successfully led clients in all aspects of marketing growth, from positioning and messaging to event support, product announcements, and channel-spend optimizations, generating qualified leads and brand awareness for clients while prioritizing ROI. Before Kalungi, Brian worked in television advertising, specializing in business intelligence and campaign optimization, and earned his MBA at the University of Washington's Foster School of Business with a focus in finance and marketing. Visit Kalungi.com to learn more about growing your B2B SaaS company.  

In dieser Folge tauchen Tim und Matthis tief ins Thema Paid Media ein und diskutieren, welche Strategien für B2B SaaS Companies in 2026 (noch) funktionieren. Dabei teilen sie konkrete Tipps für das richtige Targeting, kanalübergreifende Kampagnen, Budgetplanung und Winning Creatives auf Paid Social. Diese Folge ist extrem relevant für alle B2B Marketer, die 2026 auf Paid Media setzen und ihr Budget profitabel einsetzen möchten. Jetzt reinhören!

In this episode of Always Be Testing, host Tye DeGrange is joined by Cormac Jonas, CEO and Founder of The Jonas Agency, for a deep dive into what's actually broken in modern performance marketing. With years of experience across affiliate, paid media, and creator-led growth, Cormac brings a sharp perspective on why so many brands are optimizing campaigns while ignoring the bigger problem: flawed measurement.The conversation unpacks how misattribution, last-click bias, and platform incentives distort ROI, using the recent Honey browser extension controversy as a real-world example of how value gets misassigned across channels. They explore why TikTok and YouTube reshaped high-intent demand, how AI, CTV, and programmatic traffic are inflating “performance” metrics, and why owning an audience now matters more than owning traffic. This episode is a candid look at where affiliate and performance marketing are heading — and what brands need to fix before scaling spend.

saas.unbound is a podcast for and about founders who are working on scaling inspiring products that people love, brought to you by https://saas.group/, a serial acquirer of B2B SaaS companies. In episode #6 of season 6, Anna Nadeina talks with Belma Ibrahimovic, Head of AI at saas.group, a founder-friendly acquirer of B2B SaaS companies and a global team of passionate SaaS operators building the future of software.----------- Episode's Chapters -----------0:00 — Introduction & Belma's Background2:44 — Is Anyone Behind in AI?6:14 — Where to Draw the Line with AI9:46 — Can AI Replace Teams?14:26 — AI Empowerment at SaaS Group18:06 — Learning Resources & Time Investment21:50 — How Brands Use AI in Products30:44 — Building with AI: Technical Challenges35:23 — Staying Ahead in AI39:47 — Biggest Wins & Failures45:42 — Practical AI Hack: Using ProjectsBelma - https://www.linkedin.com/in/belma-ibrahimovic/Saas.group - https://saas.group/Subscribe to our channel to be the first to see the interviews that we publish - https://www.youtube.com/@saas-groupStay up to date:Twitter: https://twitter.com/SaaS_groupLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/14790796

Lazar Jovanovic is a full-time professional vibe coder at Lovable. His job is to build both internal tools and customer-facing products purely using AI, while not having a coding background. In this conversation, he breaks down the tactics, workflows, and framework that let him ship production-quality products using only AI.We discuss:1. Why having no coding background can be an advantage when building with AI2. Why most of your time should go to planning and chat mode, not prompting3. What to do when you get stuck: his 4x4 debugging workflow4. The PRD and Markdown file system that keeps AI agents aligned across complex builds5. Why kicking off four or five parallel prototypes is the best way to clarify your thinking6. Why design skills and taste are going to be the most important skills in the future7. His “genie and three wishes” mental model for making the most of AI's limitations8. How product, engineering, and design roles are converging—and what that means for your career—Brought to you by:Strella—The AI-powered customer research platform: https://strella.io/lennySamsara—Saving lives with AI built for physical operations: https://samsara.com/lennyWorkOS—Modern identity platform for B2B SaaS, free up to 1 million MAUs: https://workos.com/lenny—Episode transcript: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/getting-paid-to-vibe-code—Archive of all Lenny's Podcast transcripts: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/yxi4s2w998p1gvtpu4193/AMdNPR8AOw0lMklwtnC0TrQ?rlkey=j06x0nipoti519e0xgm23zsn9&st=ahz0fj11&dl=0—Where to find Lazar Jovanovic:• X: https://x.com/lakikentaki• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lazar-jovanovic• YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@50in50challenge• Starter Story course: https://build.starterstory.com/build/ai-build-accelerator?via=lazar (code LAZAR15 for 15% off)—Where to find Lenny:• Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com• X: https://twitter.com/lennysan• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/—In this episode, we cover:(00:00) Introduction to Lazar and professional vibe coding(04:53) What a professional vibe coder actually does day-to-day(09:26) Why non-technical backgrounds can be an advantage(12:24) The importance of self-awareness(14:42) His “genie and three wishes” mental model(17:43) Developing taste and judgment in the age of AI(21:46) The parallel project approach for better outcomes(29:30) Creating dynamic context windows with PRDs(36:56) Why elite vibe coders focus on planning, not coding(44:43) Creating MD files to guide AI development(50:57) Why prototyping still matters(56:50) Why “good enough” is no longer good enough(01:00:53) The future of engineering in an AI world(01:05:14) What to do when you get stuck: his 4x4 debugging workflow(01:14:27) Helping agents learn from their mistakes(01:15:35) Why watching agent output is more important than code(01:19:08) The incredible pace of AI development(01:22:55) Why emotional intelligence will become more valuable(01:28:30) How to become a professional vibe coder(01:30:10) Why building in public is the fastest path to opportunities(01:37:03) Final thoughts on focusing on quality over tech stack—Referenced:• The new AI growth playbook for 2026: How Lovable hit $200M ARR in one year | Elena Verna (Head of Growth): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-new-ai-growth-playbook-for-2026-elena-verna• Elena Verna on how B2B growth is changing, product-led growth, product-led sales, why you should go freemium not trial, what features to make free, and much more: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/elena-verna-on-why-every-company• The ultimate guide to product-led sales | Elena Verna: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-ultimate-guide-to-product-led• 10 growth tactics that never work | Elena Verna (Amplitude, Miro, Dropbox, SurveyMonkey): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/10-growth-tactics-that-never-work-elena-verna• Lovable: https://lovable.dev• Lovable + Shopify: https://lovable.dev/shopify• Everyone's an engineer now: Inside v0's mission to create a hundred million builders | Guillermo Rauch (founder and CEO of Vercel, creators of v0 and Next.js): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/everyones-an-engineer-now-guillermo-rauch• Mobbin: https://mobbin.com• Dribbble: https://dribbble.com• 21st.dev: https://21st.dev• Lovable base prompt generator: https://chatgpt.com/g/g-67e1da2c9c988191b52b61084438e8ee-lovable-base-prompt• Lovable PRD generator: https://chatgpt.com/g/g-67e1e85fbeac8191a69b95c6d5c42ef6-lovable-prd-generator• Felix Haas's newsletter: https://designplusai.com• Bauhaus: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bauhaus• Glassmorphism: https://www.figma.com/community/plugin/1197106608665398190/glassmorphism• UI style guide: http://uistyle.lovable.app• Cloudflare: https://www.cloudflare.com• Ben Tossell on X: https://x.com/bentossell• The rise of Cursor: The $300M ARR AI tool that engineers can't stop using | Michael Truell (co-founder and CEO): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-rise-of-cursor-michael-truell• Peter Thiel says AI will be ‘worse' for math nerds than for writers: https://www.businessinsider.com/peter-thiel-ai-worse-for-math-professionals-than-writers-2024-4• Andrej Karpathy on X: https://x.com/karpathy• The 100-person AI lab that became Anthropic and Google's secret weapon | Edwin Chen (Surge AI): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/surge-ai-edwin-chen• Why experts writing AI evals is creating the fastest-growing companies in history | Brendan Foody (CEO of Mercor): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/experts-writing-ai-evals-brendan-foody• Slumdog Millionaire: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1010048—Production and marketing by https://penname.co/. For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email podcast@lennyrachitsky.com.—Lenny may be an investor in the companies discussed. To hear more, visit www.lennysnewsletter.com

Send us a textIn this high-octane episode of Sidecar Sync, Amith and Mallory cover an ambitious trio of AI developments with massive implications for associations. They dive into Kimi K2.5, a Chinese open-source model built for multimodal agent swarms that rival GPT-5.2 at a fraction of the cost. Then, they explore Claude's new domain-specific plugins for Cowork and what it means for associations when Big AI moves into vertical markets like legal and finance. Finally, they unpack Elon Musk's latest megamerger: SpaceX and xAI joining forces to launch AI data centers into orbit. Whether it's AI agents that run teams of themselves or compute infrastructure leaving Earth altogether, this episode challenges assumptions and encourages leaders to rethink what's possible.  

Why does “ABM” so often become a logo-swap landing page and a prayer? In this episode, Emma and Ruta sit down with Marta George (ex-Head of ABM, now Field & Channel Marketing) to get brutally honest about what real ABM takes—and when you shouldn't do it at all.We get into: ✅ Why “ABM Lite” isn't real (and why it keeps getting sold anyway) ✅ The village ABM needs: sales, SDRs, CS, product marketing, brand, design ✅ Account selection done right (data > opinions, relationships matter) ✅ Start small: 2–4 accounts, bottom-of-funnel first, then scale ✅ Timelines & expectations: quarters to years—not weeks—and what to report ✅ What to track (and why MQLs are the wrong question for ABM) ✅ When to skip ABM and do personalised demand gen instead ✅ Tools & AI: faster personalisation ≠ ABM ✅ Spicy take: why growth teams deserve bonuses/commission We're Ruta and Emma, the marketing consultants behind Blame it on Marketing. If you're in B2B SaaS or professional services and looking to do marketing that actually drives revenue and profit, we're here for it.Visit blameitonmarketing.com and let's get this show on the road.

Learn the small shift that makes referrals repeatable. Check out our new video training. --What happens when years of planting seeds finally meets the right market moment?Alexis Trammel is Chief Growth Officer at Stratabeat, a B2B SaaS organic growth agency. She recently transitioned from account management into a biz dev role.  But the real story is how timing and preparation collided. For years, Stratabeat was doing the unglamorous work: niching down, building LinkedIn presence, publishing original research, speaking at conferences, nurturing relationships. Then GEO (generative engine optimization) hit right as AI anxiety peaked, and suddenly the leads started flooding in. This conversation explores what it looks like when the groundwork you've been laying finally pays off, and why most agencies aren't ready when their moment arrives.What You'll Leave With:Why lead flow needs to exist before you hire a salesperson—not the other way aroundHow years of niching down positioned them to catch the GEO waveThe compounding value of original research, LinkedIn presence, and conference visibilityWhy internal sales hires often outperform external ones when the foundation is thereHow to keep planting seeds even when you're not sure which one will sproutThe seasonality reality and why "when it rains, it pours" cuts both waysTimestamps:[00:00] Introduction to Alexis Trammel and Stratabeat[02:36] The long road of niching down and eliminating services[03:19] When AI panic created unexpected demand for GEO[05:16] Original research as a lead gen and credibility play[07:46] Coming back from maternity leave to a sales opportunity[10:00] Why the lead flow has to come before the sales hire[11:47] Wearing both the sales and marketing hats[14:10] Planning for seasonality when you're riding a wave[16:41] LinkedIn as long-term brand building, not cold outreach[22:04] GEO converting better than almost everything except referrals[30:12] The relationship groundwork that makes referrals possibleMentioned Resources / Links:Stratabeat - B2B SaaS organic growth agencyNever Eat Alone by Keith FerrazziAlexis Trammell on LinkedInTom Shapiro on LinkedIn

In this episode of Pathmonk Presents, Kevin sits down with Kelsey Formost, Head of Marketing at Togal, an AI-powered construction software platform transforming preconstruction workflows. Kelsey breaks down how Togal helps estimators, contractors, and subcontractors automate takeoffs, reduce manual work, and bid faster with higher accuracy. From a marketing lens, she explains the challenge of selling AI into a traditionally conservative industry and why trust, education, and customer experience matter more than hype. The conversation dives into shifting acquisition strategies, the declining power of traditional SEO, and why third-party reviews and LinkedIn now drive stronger conversions. This episode is packed with practical insights for B2B SaaS marketers navigating AI adoption and buyer skepticism.

In this episode of Always Be Testing, host Tye DeGrange sits down with Guillaume Cabane, Founder of HyperGrowth Partners and one of the earliest leaders to shape modern B2B SaaS growth.Guillaume breaks down why most companies struggle to scale—not because they lack tools or talent, but because they're unwilling to embrace the speed, risk, and failure real growth requires. The conversation unpacks what actually defines a growth team, why experimentation must move faster than polish, and how founders often sabotage growth by demanding results without accepting uncertainty.They also explore where AI is genuinely creating leverage in B2B today, why SDRs haven't been fully replaced, and how trust, culture, and incentives shape whether growth teams succeed or stall.This episode is a practical, no-fluff look at what it really takes to build growth systems that scale in B2B SaaS.

In this episode of The Venture Capital Podcast (VC.fm), hosts Jon Bradshaw and Peter Harris sit down with Olivia Goldstein, General Partner at StartFast Ventures and CEO of Upstate Venture Connect, to discuss venture capital, startup ecosystems, and why the best founders and companies can be built far outside Silicon Valley.Olivia shares her founder journey (including building a startup that used influencer marketing and exiting in 2019), her thesis on investing in overlooked markets like Upstate New York, and practical advice for founders raising venture capital from non-traditional hubs.The conversation also explores emerging opportunities in entrepreneurship through acquisition (ETA), small business succession as baby boomers retire, and how AI and shifting labor markets may push more people toward owning real-world cash-flowing assets.Keywords and topics:Venture capital, StartFast Ventures, Upstate Venture Connect, Upstate New York startups, Buffalo startups, Rochester startups, Syracuse startups, B2B SaaS investing, startup ecosystem, founder-led companies, fundraising advice, entrepreneurship through acquisition, ETA, small business acquisition, SBA loans, VC opinions, investing outside Silicon Valley.Follow the PodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/venturecapitalfm/Twitter: https://twitter.com/vcpodcastfmLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/venturecapitalfm/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7BQimY8NJ6cr617lqtRr7N?si=ftylo2qHQiCgmT9dfloD_g&nd=1&dlsi=7b868f1b72094351Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/venture-capital/id1575351789Website: https://www.venturecapital.fm/Follow Jon BradshawLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mrbradshaw/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mrjonbradshaw/Twitter: https://twitter.com/mrjonbradshawFollow Peter HarrisLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/peterharris1Twitter: https://twitter.com/thevcstudentInstagram: https://instagram.com/shodanpeteYoutube: https://www.youtube.com/@peterharris2812

saas.unbound is a podcast for and about founders who are working on scaling inspiring products that people love, brought to you by https://saas.group/, a serial acquirer of B2B SaaS companies. In episode #5 of season 6, Anna Nadeina talks with Iliya Valchanov, founder of Juma, an AI workspace platform built for marketing teams to collaborate and create on-brand content.----------- Episode's Chapters -----------0:00 — Introduction & Background2:44 — The OpenAI Letter & Rebrand Trigger5:35 — The Power of Product Communities8:03 — Finding Product-Market Fit at $1M ARR9:22 — Choosing the Name: Just Marketing10:14 — The Vision: AI Marketing Super Agent13:46 — Data Analysis: The Killer Use Case27:19 — Impact on Growth & SEO32:02 — AI in Operations: Where to Draw the Line39:20 — Wins, Failures & Team Changes42:00 — Growth Hack: Analyzing Customer CallsIliya - https://www.linkedin.com/in/iliya-valchanov/ Juma - https://juma.ai/ Subscribe to our channel to be the first to see the interviews that we publish - https://www.youtube.com/@saas-groupStay up to date:Twitter: https://twitter.com/SaaS_groupLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/14790796

325 | Lashay Lewis helps B2B SaaS companies create profit driven content strategies. We talk about why a B2B content strategy should be built from the bottom of the funnel up, why she interviews sales teams to understand "life before using the product" and why she interviews customer success teams to understand "life after using the product" and how that influences content strategy, how writing influences buyers, the power of a strong company POV, training in-house writers and freelancers in a way that scales, where podcasting fits in a B2B content strategy, why search volume can be misleading, and thoughts on how content marketers can use AI. Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Optimizely - A no-code AI platform where autonomous agents execute marketing work across webpages, email, SEO, and campaigns. Get a free, personalized 45-minute AI workshop to help you identify the best AI use cases for your marketing team and map out where agents can save you time at optimizely.com/exitfive. AirOps - The content engineering platform that helps marketers create and maintain high-quality, on-brand content that wins AI search. Go to airops.com/exitfive to start creating content that reflects your expertise, stays true to your brand, and is engineered for performance across human and AI discovery.Visit exitfive.com/retreat to apply for Exit Five's first-ever, in-person Marketing Leadership Retreat, March 18–20, 2026 in Scottsdale, Arizona. Join 100 CMOs and VPs of Marketing from companies like like Zoom, Snowflake, Manychat, Bitly, G2, HP, and more for two days of thinking bigger around a trusted group of peers in marketing. ***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

In this episode, Alex Theuma and Mark Walker, CEO of Nue, discuss how AI is accelerating the pace of change in SaaS and the knock-on effect this is having on pricing and monetisation. Mark explains how Nue has become a critical part of the infrastructure powering many of the world's fastest-growing AI-native and scaled SaaS companies, including OpenAI, Anthropic, and Jasper. Drawing on learnings from these companies, he unpacks how usage-based models, committed spend contracts, and rapid product experimentation are replacing traditional SaaS playbooks. Alex and Mark also reflect on life as an entrepreneur, scaling teams, managing stress, and the need to embrace constant change. - Why AI has disrupted product development cycles and changed how SaaS companies create value. - How faster product iteration is forcing new pricing and monetisation models. - The rise of committed spend, consumption-based contracts and experimentation at scale. - Why you should build revenue systems for the company you want to become, not the one you are today. - How AI-native startups and scaled SaaS companies are converging on the same challenges. - Why speed across product, systems and execution is now the ultimate competitive advantage.       Check out the other ways SaaStock is helping SaaS founders move their business forward: 

Send us a textWhat do AI companions, deepfakes, and White House briefings have in common? Bruce Reed. In this episode, Mallory Mejias and Amith Nagarajan are joined by Bruce Reed, Head of AI at Common Sense Media and former Deputy Chief of Staff in the Biden-Harris White House. Bruce shares an insider's view on how the U.S. government reacted to the launch of ChatGPT, the urgent need for AI guardrails for youth, and why you don't need to be a tech expert to lead responsibly. Bruce Reed is Head of AI at Common Sense Media and a senior White House policy adviser across three administrations. He served as President Clinton's chief domestic policy adviser, chief of staff to Vice President Biden, and Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy in the Biden-Harris administration, helping shape 17 State of the Union addresses. Dubbed President Biden's “AI Whisperer,” Reed led landmark government efforts on AI safety, securing voluntary commitments from major tech companies and advancing a sweeping executive order on responsible AI.  Common Sense Media - https://www.commonsensemedia.org/ Time AI 100 - https://shorturl.at/2NeQZ

Integrations look deceptively simple until they become the backbone of your business. In this episode of Between Product and Partnerships, Pandium CEO Cristina Flaschen sits down with Scott Lavery, Senior Product Manager at Arkestro. They unpack what really happens when integrations shift from a "nice to have" feature to something the company can't function without.Scott shares hard-earned lessons from a decade in B2B SaaS, covering sectors from martech to procurement. He discusses the headache of inheriting messy stacks and why iPaaS tools often hide long-term costs. The conversation also explores how integration work fundamentally changes what it means to be a product manager. Together, they dig into common failure modes and the tough tradeoffs junior PMs face when they're "volun-told" to own integrations.Who we sat down withScott Lavery is a Senior Product Manager at Arkestro. With over ten years of experience in B2B SaaS, he has repeatedly found himself responsible for integrations, often without ever intending to specialize in them.Scott brings expertise in:Unwinding complex iPaaS-driven environments.Designing integrations built to be "set and forget."Managing third-party dependencies alongside specific scale constraints.Advocating for pragmatic, cost-aware strategies.Key TopicsWhy integration PM work is fundamentally different Integration success is defined by invisibility. Unlike standard features, value is found in reliability and trust rather than how often a user clicks a button.The hidden costs of low-code and iPaaS tools Teams often end up writing code blocks inside "no-code" tools. We discuss how pricing models can distort architectural decisions and where velocity eventually hits a wall.What to do when you inherit a messy integration stack Practical advice for PMs walking into undocumented systems filled with inherited workflows and vendor dependencies they can't control.Episode Highlights01:48 - How most PMs “fall into” owning integrations03:58 - Why integration metrics flip traditional product thinking on its head06:31 - Contextual success metrics: Why volume is not the same as value08:21 - Navigating ecosystems without becoming a domain admin11:18 - Why API docs lie and customers ignore your design intent15:37 - Warning signs of an unhealthy iPaaS environment19:05 - Silent failures and the pain of hearing about outages from customers23:45 - The code-block paradox in low-code platforms31:52 - Scott's playbook for PMs inheriting integrationsKey TakeawaysGreat integrations are designed to disappear Successful integrations are rarely touched after the initial setup. In this space, reliability is a far more important metric than user engagement.Metrics are contextual, not universalA monthly sync can be just as vital as one that runs every five minutes. Frequency alone does not signal success.You can't abstract away real-world usage API contracts rarely reflect reality. No tool removes the need to understand how customers actually use systems like NetSuite or Salesforce.Low-code tools often trade speed for long-term pain Teams save time early but spend years optimizing around pricing models and managing fragile logic.Inherited workflows is a scalability risk If only one person understands the system, it is already brittle. This is a massive liability once customers are live.Silent failures erode trust fastest Learning about outages from customers is a major failure. Proactive monitoring and clear communication are bas

Chasing unqualified leads is costing you time, money, and momentum. Want better clients—not just more of them?In this episode of The Business Ownership Podcast I interviewed Mark Osborne. Mark is the  Fractional Revenue Leader for Professional Services & B2B SaaS at Modern Revenue Strategies. Recognized by AdAge Magazine as one of the world's Top 25 “Marketing Technology Trailblazers” in 2017 and a #1 Best-Selling Selling Author on B2B Marketing and Sales, Mark Osborne brings decades of experience creating Revenue Growth Systems for B2B SaaS, Tech, and Boutique Professional Services Firms. Mark has delivered tens of millions of dollars in revenue for his clients, often doubling revenues in 90 days through his focus on building Systems that emphasize strategic approaches to growth. He is founder of Modern Revenue Strategies offering a "10X ROI B2B Growth Guarantee" and a Free Diagnostic Tool to identify your fastest path to growth.Stop marketing to everyone. Start winning the right customers. Learn how to find your most profitable customers.Check this out!Show Links:Modern Revenue Startegies: https://modernrevenuestrategies.com/diagnostic/Mark Osborne on LinkedIn:  Mark Osborne, MBA, CEPA® | LinkedInBook a call with Michelle: https://go.appointmentcore.com/book/IcFD4cGJoin our Facebook group for business owners to get help or help other business owners!The Business Ownership Group - Secrets to Scaling: https://www.facebook.com/groups/businessownershipsecretstoscalingLooking to scale your business? Get free gifts here to help you on your way: https://www.awarenessstrategies.com/

In this episode of Always Be Testing, Tye DeGrange sits down with Ziggy Kopetti, a veteran affiliate marketing operator and platform founder who has spent years working inside the mechanics of performance marketing—from attribution and partner incentives to how networks and platforms actually make money.The conversation explores how affiliate programs really scale, where brands commonly misjudge incentives, and why many performance issues are self-inflicted by poor structure rather than bad partners. Ziggy breaks down the economic realities behind affiliate platforms, how creators and publishers think about risk and reward, and why transparency and alignment matter more than tooling alone. The episode also touches on where affiliate marketing is headed, what brands misunderstand about creator partnerships, and how short-term optimization often creates long-term trust problems.

For years, we've heard about AI transforming software development. But what if that same level of agentic, AI-driven collaboration could be applied not just to writing code, but to writing your entire go-to-market playbook? Agility requires that your go-to-market teams operate at the speed of insight, not at the speed of manual data entry and fragmented workflows. This means empowering them with tools that don't just provide data, but automate action based on strategic intent. Today, we're going to talk about the concept of an 'agentic' go-to-market platform, where AI doesn't just assist, but actively collaborates with sales and marketing teams to automate entire workflows, from strategy to execution. To help me discuss this topic, I'd like to welcome, Marcio Arnecke, Chief Marketing Officer at Apollo.io. About Marcio Arnecke As Apollo.io's Chief Marketing Officer, Marcio Arnecke brings a visionary approach to scaling high-growth B2B SaaS marketing in the AI-driven sales landscape. With over two decades of experience driving revenue acceleration across global markets, he has consistently transformed early-stage technology companies into market-defining brands. Hisexpertise in AI-powered go-to-market strategies uniquely positions him to accelerate Apollo's mission of empowering sales teams through intelligent data and automation. Previously, he played a pivotal role in scaling marketing functions at SaaS giants like Intercom and Zendesk, where he drove remarkable growth from $40M to $1.7B, culminating in a successful IPO that raised $100 million in 2014. Leveraging his comprehensive background in demand generation, product marketing, and strategic storytelling, Marcio is focused on positioning Apollo as the go-to AI sales platform for SMB and mid-market teams. His approach combines data-driven insights with targeted narrative strategies, translating Apollo's technological capabilities into practical business value. Drawing from his global experience across Silicon Valley and international markets, Marcio aims to expand Apollo's brand and demonstrate how AI can meaningfully improve sales engagement for growing businesses. Marcio holds advanced degrees from Stanford University's Graduate School of Business and Golden Gate University, complemented by a BS in Business Administration from Universidade Feevale in Brazil. Marcio Arnecke on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcioarnecke/ Resources Apollo.io: https://www.apollo.io Take your personal data back with Incogni! Use code AGILE at the link below and get 60% off an annual plan: https://incogni.com/agile  The Agile Brand podcast is brought to you by TEKsystems. Learn more here: https://www.teksystems.com/versionnextnow Catch the future of e-commerce at eTail Palm Springs, Feb 23-26 in Palm Springs, CA. Go here for more details: https://etailwest.wbresearch.com/ Drive your customers to new horizons at the premier retail event of the year for Retail and Brand marketers. Learn more at CRMC 2026, June 1-3. https://www.thecrmc.com/ Enjoyed the show? Tell us more at and give us a rating so others can find the show at: https://ratethispodcast.com/agile Connect with Greg on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregkihlstrom Don't miss a thing: get the latest episodes, sign up for our newsletter and more: https://www.theagilebrand.show Check out The Agile Brand Guide website with articles, insights, and Martechipedia, the wiki for marketing technology: https://www.agilebrandguide.com The Agile Brand is produced by Missing Link—a Latina-owned strategy-driven, creatively fueled production co-op. From ideation to creation, they craft human connections through intelligent, engaging and informative content. https://www.missinglink.company

saas.unbound is a podcast for and about founders who are working on scaling inspiring products that people love, brought to you by https://saas.group/, a serial acquirer of B2B SaaS companies. In episode #4 of season 6, Anna nadeina talks with Edward Barrow, Co-Founder & CEO @ Cloud Capital, a Cloud Cost Management platform helping finance (CFOs) and engineering teams control, forecast, and optimize cloud spending, especially on AWS, by bridging financial and technical visibility.----------- Episode's Chapters -----------1:37 — Ed's Journey: From Bootstrap to VC-Backed SaaS6:48 — Post-Acquisition Life: M&A and Private Equity9:16 — Cloud Spend Benchmarks: 10-20% of Revenue12:10 — The Commitment Trap: Saving Money vs Taking Risk15:39 — AI's Impact on Cloud Economics20:11 — How Cloud Capital Works: Financial Risk Transfer29:28 — Building AI-Native: Wisdom Plus Automation34:01 — Partnership Strategy: Bottom-Up vs Top-Down41:49 — 20 Years of Lessons: Running at Brick Walls43:55 — Founder Hack: Walking MeetingsEd - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ebarrow/ Cloud Capital - https://www.cloudcapital.co/ Subscribe to our channel to be the first to see the interviews that we publish - https://www.youtube.com/@saas-groupStay up to date:Twitter: https://twitter.com/SaaS_groupLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/14790796

Young Entrepreneur John Magnor Shares B2B, SAAS and AI-Driven Business Success Strategies Youtube.com/@johnpmag About the Guest(s): John Magnor is a successful 24-year-old entrepreneur, primarily focused on building and scaling B2B companies, including software and service providers. With a career that began at 16, he has devoted himself over the past years to expand businesses through developing robust sales teams and streamlining marketing systems. John is the founder of Magner Equity Partners, aiming to create a portfolio of businesses scalable enough to be sold to private equity. His entrepreneurial journey is motivated by a passion for the business game and the art of marketing and sales. Episode Summary: In this riveting episode of The Chris Voss Show, host Chris Voss engages with John Magnor, a young yet remarkably proficient entrepreneur who has made significant impacts in the B2B industry. Broadcasting from Buenos Aires, John shares his journey from a 16-year-old eager to break norms to becoming a key player in software and service-associated entrepreneurship. This episode shines a light on John’s unique approach to scaling B2B companies, underlining the importance of sales and marketing in business growth. John Magnor narrates his story, highlighting foundational motivations stemming from personal needs and family influence. The discussion flows into the importance of learning sales and marketing, with Chris echoing the sentiment, noting their pivotal role in any business venture. The conversation naturally gravitates towards the future trajectory of businesses, exploring the intricacies of AI technology in revolutionizing traditional market landscapes. With an impressive track record and insightful perspectives, John discusses his investment strategies and shares an exclusive look into his upcoming project, Nova, an AI-driven sales trainer and role player. Key Takeaways: John Magnor started his entrepreneurial journey at a young age, driven by the desire to deviate from the norm and make a mark in the B2B scene by leveraging his skills in sales and marketing. Magnor Equity Partners focuses on helping businesses scale by refining their sales processes and marketing systems, aiming to add them to John's expanding portfolio. Artificial Intelligence (AI) is a crucial element in modern business strategies, offering unparalleled opportunities for growth and efficiency. The interplay between AI, sales, and marketing can drastically improve training and operational efficiency, as evidenced by the introduction of Nova, an innovative AI sales training platform. Chris Voss and John stress the importance of a solid business foundation, emphasizing the benefits of starting young and evolving with market changes. Notable Quotes: “Once you learn sales, you can work anywhere. Sales is an invaluable skill.” – John Magnor “AI is here to stay; companies not utilizing it are left in the dust.” – John Magnor “Business is the best sport…you can do this until you kick the grave.” – John Magnor “Build a foundation in your youth. It creates an amazing arc for the rest of your life.” – Chris Voss “Knowing sales and marketing is crucial. They are the building blocks of successful business ventures.” – John Magnor

Deepak Sindwani is Managing Partner at Wavecrest Growth Partners, an active growth equity firm backing bootstrapped and lightly funded SaaS founders. They work with practical founders who've built profitable businesses to $5–$20M ARR and want help growing without VC pressure or losing control. Wavecrest invests in vertical SaaS companies growing 30–60% annually, typically profitable or breakeven. They help founders scale sales, pricing, analytics, and leadership teams while staying capital efficient. Investments are usually $10–$30M total, with founders often taking some liquidity while continuing to lead. Even with the excitement around AI-first companies from VCs, Deepak sees efficient growth equity in practical vertical SaaS as a great investment and a big opportunity for founders. AI is helping serious practical founders, not making them irrelevant. Key Takeaways Capital Efficiency Matters — Wavecrest only backs profitable or breakeven SaaS companies that already respect the business model fundamentals. Founder Liquidity Helps — Taking some money off the table reduces stress and helps founders make better long-term decisions. Vertical SaaS Wins — Deep industry knowledge and data create defensibility AI-first competitors struggle to replicate. AI Is Additive — Software plus AI and data creates more value than AI replacing SaaS systems of record. No One-Size Playbook — Growth equity works best when strategies are customized, not forced by rigid PE-style playbooks. Quote from Deepak Sindwani, Managing Partner at Wavecrest Growth Partners "We don't think B2B SaaS is dead. It may create great headlines to say, AI eats software. We think software plus AI is the right approach. Software, AI plus data. So they're harvesting and creating that data moat that is going to help make them defensible. "Then, using the AI tools, why not use the AI tools to provide more automation for customers? That's what we really think AI does: increase the ability to automate the use of their product and to get value.  "Every company that we're involved with has some AI initiative. How am I changing how I run my business? How am I changing marketing and sales and finance and customer success using AI? Every company is doing something in every function in terms of new tools and tests." Links Deepak Sindwani on LinkedIn Wavecrest Growth on LinkedIn Wavecrest Growth Partners website Podcast Sponsor – Lighter Capital This podcast is sponsored by Lighter Capital. In the last 15 years, Lighter Capital has helped over 600 software and SaaS founders secure simple, non-dilutive financing to grow a little faster—without giving up any precious equity or board seats to investors.  Simple debt funding from Lighter Capital can range from $50K to $10 million, with straightforward terms, no personal guarantees or covenants, and up to a 4-year payback period. Go to LighterCapital.com to apply and get a quick pre-qualification. Then talk with their experienced team to create a practical funding plan to achieve your goals.  The Practical Founders Podcast Tune into the Practical Founders Podcast for weekly in-depth interviews with founders who have built valuable software companies without big funding. Subscribe to the Practical Founders Podcast using your favorite podcast app or view on our YouTube channel. Get the weekly Practical Founders newsletter and podcast updates at practicalfounders.com. Practical Founders CEO Peer Groups Be part of a committed and confidential group of practical founders creating valuable software companies without big VC funding.  A Practical Founders Peer Group is a committed and confidential group of founders/CEOs who want to help you succeed on your terms. Each Practical Founders Peer Group is personally curated and moderated by Greg Head.

In this emergency episode of Always Be Testing, I'm joined by Ben Edelman—an economist, lawyer, and one of the most respected affiliate fraud investigators in the industry. Ben has spent over two decades uncovering adware abuse, browser extension misconduct, and attribution fraud, working with merchants, networks, and publishers to protect the integrity of affiliate marketing.We break down what actually happened with the Honey browser extension, why multiple affiliate networks removed it, and why this case is fundamentally different from past controversies. Ben explains how affiliate attribution is supposed to work, how “stand down” rules came to exist, and how Honey allegedly bypassed those rules by intentionally concealing violations from testers and networks. We also discuss the real impact on content publishers, review sites, and the broader ecosystem—and why concealment, not just rule-breaking, changes the legal and ethical stakes. This episode is a deep, technical, but essential conversation for anyone who cares about transparency, trust, and accountability in partner marketing.

#323 | Anthony Pierri from Fletch PMM joins Dave to talk about what actually matters in B2B positioning and messaging. They break down how to think about value props, why buyers don't care about your features, and what makes a homepage instantly click. Anthony shares lessons on positioning from working with hundreds of early-stage B2B SaaS companies and explains how to connect real customer problems to clear outcomes. Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Optimizely - A no-code AI platform where autonomous agents execute marketing work across webpages, email, SEO, and campaigns. Get a free, personalized 45-minute AI workshop to help you identify the best AI use cases for your marketing team and map out where agents can save you time at optimizely.com/exitfive. AirOps - The content engineering platform that helps marketers create and maintain high-quality, on-brand content that wins AI search. Go to airops.com/exitfive to start creating content that reflects your expertise, stays true to your brand, and is engineered for performance across human and AI discovery.Visit exitfive.com/retreat to apply for Exit Five's first-ever, in-person Marketing Leadership Retreat, March 18–20, 2026 in Scottsdale, Arizona. Join 100 CMOs and VPs of Marketing from companies like like Zoom, Snowflake, Manychat, Bitly, G2, HP, and more for two days of thinking bigger around a trusted group of peers in marketing. ***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

SaaS Revolution Show with Alex Theuma and Andrew Zhyvolovych, CEO and Founder of Precoro. Together, they unpack a 10-year journey of building a B2B SaaS business to nearly $10M in ARR. Andrew shares how his early career in car sales, finance, and Groupon shaped his mindset as a founder, and how those lessons helped him build Precoro through disciplined execution, customer-funded growth, and a strong “sports team” culture. You'll learn: - How Precoro grew from idea to nearly $10M ARR - Why revenue is the best form of market validation - How to build and motivate a high-performance team - What AI really means for B2B SaaS today - Why cold calling is making a comeback - How Andrew plans to scale to $100M ARR This episode is packed with practical insights for SaaS founders, operators, and anyone building a serious B2B business.       Check out the other ways SaaStock is helping SaaS founders move their business forward: 

Send us a textIn this episode of Sidecar Sync, Mallory Mejias and Amith Nagarajan unpack two powerful narratives shaping our AI future: the surprising global leaderboard of AI adoption and a provocative economic thought experiment on capital, labor, and AGI. From Mallory's firsthand experience using Claude to navigate the stress of first-time home buying to Microsoft's latest diffusion report revealing where AI is truly taking hold (spoiler: it's not the U.S.), this episode blends the personal, practical, and political. The hosts also explore an essay predicting a world where capital outpaces labor permanently, and what associations must do to stay relevant. Tune in for insights on strategic planning, global digital divides, and how your association can lead—not lag—on the AI curve. 

For more thoughts, clips, and updates, follow Avetis Antaplyan on Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/avetisantaplyanIn this episode of The Tech Leader's Playbook, Avetis Antaplyan sits down with Kurt Uhlir, seasoned CMO, operator, and advisor to private equity-backed growth companies, for a no-BS breakdown of what modern marketing and real leadership look like at scale.Kurt challenges the mainstream playbook with sharp insight into why most CMOs aren't actually marketers, how obsession with attribution is damaging businesses, and why the real differentiator is trust, not clicks. From dismantling the myth of PPC-fueled growth to showing how brands win by building long-term category authority, Kurt shares hard-won lessons from the trenches of B2B SaaS and services.You'll hear how he thinks about short-term vs long-term growth horizons, why servant leadership isn't soft, and what companies miss when they separate marketing from customer success. This is a masterclass for any founder, CMO, or growth leader who wants to scale responsibly, attract vs. chase customers, and build teams that actually own outcomes.If you've ever felt like traditional marketing advice didn't match the reality of scaling a company, this one's for you.TakeawaysMost CMOs are actually salespeople afraid of making cold calls, not strategic marketers.Companies lose 70% of deals by not being one of the top 3 trusted brands in the buyer's mind.Short-term tactics (PPC, partnerships) drive revenue from 2–12 months, but trust drives revenue from 12–36+ months.Modern marketing must focus on contribution to outcomes, not just attribution metrics.Search Everywhere Optimization (not just SEO) is now essential, across YouTube, app stores, LLMs, and social.AI is a force multiplier for small teams, if used correctly to repurpose and amplify valuable content.Great marketing starts by mining product usage data, support tickets, and customer success conversations, not keyword tools.Servant leadership isn't about being soft, it's about owning outcomes and developing people.The best leaders are also great followers, especially when serving a strong brand-driven CEO.The cost of authoritative leadership is silent disengagement and missed opportunities for feedback.If every team member can't explain how their role connects to company outcomes, leadership has failed.The most honest marketing feedback comes from calling customers who canceled, and listening without selling.Chapters00:00 Intro & Kurt's Opening Shot at Modern Marketing02:00 Attribution vs. Contribution05:00 The 70% Rule: Brand Trust and B2B Decision-Making08:00 Should You Aim to Be a Top 3 Brand?10:00 The Three Horizons of Marketing ROI13:00 Search Everywhere Optimization and the New SEO Reality16:30 AI + Content Workflows: From Reels to Repurposing18:30 Content Strategy Starts with Customer Support Data20:00 Servant Leadership vs. Authoritative Leadership24:00 Following When It Matters: The Power of Deference26:00 Communication at Scale: Berkman Assessments and Team Alignment28:00 The Silent Cost of Authoritative Leadership30:00 Attribution Is Easy, But Contribution Builds Companies34:00 Why Marketing Should Own Customer Success Insights36:30 Managing Expectation Risk in Sales vs. Service38:30 Creating a Single View of the Customer40:00 Amplifying Referrals Without Getting in the Way42:00 The Ground Truth Lives With Canceled Customers43:30 Atomic Habits, Sticker Charts, and Showing Up44:30 The Billboard Test for Great Leadership Kurt Uhlir's Social Media Link:https://www.linkedin.com/in/kurtuhlir/Kurt Uhlir's Website Link:https://kurtuhlir.com/Resources and Links:⁠https://www.hireclout.com⁠⁠https://www.podcast.hireclout.com⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/hirefasthireright

In this episode, Carlos Gonzalez de Villaumbrosia, CEO & Founder at Product School, interviews Anique Drumright, General Manager and VP of Product at Rippling, the workforce management platform valued at $16.8 billion with over $570 million in ARR.Anique is a product veteran who has shaped high-growth teams at Uber, TripActions, and Loom. Now at Rippling, she helps lead a workforce of over 4,000 employees, including 100 former founders, to maintain the speed and ownership typically lost at scale. In this conversation, Anique breaks down how Rippling successfully operates as a compound startup and why product leaders must evolve into General Managers.What you'll learn:How to pivot from managing a backlog to owning a P&L as a GM.The Compound Startup framework for consolidating enterprise categories.How to build high-performing teams by hiring for "founder-level" curiosity.Strategies for proving ROI to enterprise customers to drive platform adoption.Key takeaways:Go and See: Why leaders must personally investigate customer issues to set the bar for quality.Singular Obsession: How to organize teams to maintain focus and velocity as you scale.Automating ROI: How Rippling uses product efficiency to justify headcount reduction for clients.Credits:Host: Carlos Gonzalez de VillaumbrosiaGuest: Anique DrumrightSocial Links: Follow our Podcast on Tik Tok here Follow Product School on LinkedIn here Join Product School's free events here Find out more about Product School here

What does it really take to acquire 26 SaaS businesses—and keep them growing? In this episode, Jaryd Krause sits down with SaaS M&A professional Guillaume Lussato for a behind-the-scenes look at how successful software acquisitions actually happen. Guillaume breaks down his unconventional path from software sales at a cybersecurity company to sourcing and closing deals at Constellation Software, one of the most disciplined acquirers in the SaaS world. Guillaume reveals why the best SaaS acquisitions aren’t rushed deals but relationships built over years. He shares how patience, credibility, and consistent founder outreach led to his first acquisition at SaaS Group—a low-profile digital calendar tool called DacBoard—and why targeting under-the-radar SaaS companies can unlock outsized opportunities. The conversation dives deep into today’s hyper-competitive M&A environment, including how to stand out when every founder is being pitched. Guillaume unpacks the red flags most buyers miss, from risky customer concentration to weak net dollar retention, and explains SaaS Group’s clear acquisition framework—capital-efficient, product-led growth businesses with strong fundamentals. The episode wraps with a powerful discussion on how to balance organic growth with acquisitions, avoid overextension, and make smarter strategic decisions when scaling a portfolio of software companies. If you’re serious about SaaS acquisitions, this episode is a must-watch. Click through and watch the full video to learn exactly how Guillaume evaluates, sources, and scales SaaS businesses. Episode Highlights 02:52 Transition from Sales to M&A Origination 05:52 The Art of Deal Sourcing 09:04 Evaluating Founders and Their Businesses 11:47 Understanding Acquisition Criteria 15:10 Growth Strategies: M&A vs. Organic Growth 18:00 Identifying Red Flags in Due Diligence 21:06 Navigating Operational Complexity 23:57 AI Risks and Opportunities in Software 27:06 Balancing Capital Allocation and Diversification Key Takeaways ➥ You need to build relationships, build trust, build credibility. ➥ It can take a really long time to acquire a business. ➥ We try to identify red flags as early as possible. ➥ We don't manage our portfolio through spreadsheets; we're not finance people. ➥ Should we buy it? Why? For how much? About Guillaume Lussato Guillaume Lussato is a senior business development and M&A professional at saas.group, where he helps identify, acquire and scale profitable B2B SaaS companies. He hosts discussions on SaaS M&A, growth, and founder transitions and frequently speaks at industry events about how to grow without VC and what makes SaaS acquisitions succeed or fail. Guillaume focuses on sourcing deals, operational playbooks for scaling post-acquisition, and practical insights that matter to anyone buying online businesses to replace income, scale a portfolio, or prepare for exits. Connect with Guillaume Lussato ➥ https://www.linkedin.com/in/guillaumelussato/ Resource Links ➥ Connect with Jaryd here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jarydkrause➥ Buying Online Businesses Website - https://buyingonlinebusinesses.com ➥ Download the Due Diligence Framework - https://buyingonlinebusinesses.com/freeresources/➥ Sell your business to us here - https://buyingonlinebusinesses.com/sell-your-business/ ➥ Google Ads Service - https://buyingonlinebusinesses.com/ads-services/ Buy & Sell Online Businesses Here (Top Website Brokers We Use)

In this episode of the Market Mentors podcast, Matt Dodgson speaks with Michelle Huff, CMO of Alteryx, about her extensive career in B2B SaaS marketing. They discuss the evolution of brand building, the importance of customer advocacy, and the challenges of making data analytics compelling. Michelle shares insights on leveraging AI in marketing strategies and offers practical advice for B2B marketers looking to enhance their careers in the rapidly changing landscape of technology.We cover:Michelle Huff's Career Journey in B2B SaaSSaaS Brand BuildingNavigating Customer Advocacy and Brand LoveLeveraging AI in Marketing and SalesThe Future of Marketing: Embracing AIAdvice for B2B Marketers in 2025Market Mentors is brought to you by Matt Dodgson, Co-Founder of Market Recruitment. Market Recruitment is a recruitment agency that connects B2B Tech & SaaS businesses with world class marketers to help them grow.If you'd like to be a future guest on the Market Mentors podcast, you can apply here.

saas.unbound is a podcast for and about founders who are working on scaling inspiring products that people love, brought to you by https://saas.group/, a serial acquirer of B2B SaaS companies. In episode #3 of season 6, Daniel Thulfaut, the Head of Product at saas.group talks with Arne Kittler, co-founder of Product at Heart, a conference for curious product people, and an experienced product management leader, building digital products & services for 25 years.----------- Episode's Chapters -----------0:05 — Introduction and Guest Welcome2:44 — The Power of Product Communities5:46 — Internal vs External Communities10:12 — Building Community at Xing13:05 — Community Rituals and Values15:39 — Scaling Challenges and Context26:19 — Community Formats and Co-Creation34:54 — Fractional Leadership Roles39:28 — When Part-Time Leadership Works44:13 — Managing Time and PrioritiesArne - https://www.linkedin.com/in/arnekittler/ Product at Heart - https://productatheart.com/ Subscribe to our channel to be the first to see the interviews that we publish - https://www.youtube.com/@saas-groupStay up to date:Twitter: https://twitter.com/SaaS_groupLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/14790796

Episode DescriptionAI is fundamentally changing how SaaS companies should think about pricing. When your software makes teams 70% more efficient, charging per seat means you're literally shrinking your own market. In this conversation, product management veteran Lee Bridges explains why seat-based pricing is a burning platform and what comes next.Lee, returning to the podcast after five years, recently led a pricing transformation project that forced him to confront an uncomfortable truth: AI-driven efficiency gains directly reduce the number of seats customers need. His solution? Outcome-based pricing that aligns incentives between vendors and customers while future-proofing against AI disruption.GuestLee Bridges - Cheif Product Officer at Inn-Flow, father, audio engineer, and vibe coder who recently completed a major pricing transformation project for a B2B SaaS company in the field service space.Key Topics CoveredThe Seat-Based Pricing ProblemHow AI efficiency reduces Total Addressable Market (TAM)The misalignment of incentives between vendors and customersInternal team conflicts created by per-seat modelsWhy "reducing a team from 10 to 3" destroys 70% of your revenue potentialOutcome-Based Pricing ExplainedThe difference between usage-based and outcome-based pricingHow to identify and price meaningful outcomesThe psychology of "you make money when your customer makes money"Avoiding the "nickel and diming" feeling of usage-based modelsReal-World ImplementationCase study: Field service sales teams (20 minutes to 90 seconds per quote)Tiered prepayment models with outcome "credits"Combining platform fees with outcome pricingWhen outcome-based pricing works (and when it doesn't)The Future of SaaS and AIWhy B2B SaaS isn't going anywhere despite AI hypeThe problem with expecting everyone to be a product managerConsistency, training, and the limits of LLM-generated experiencesVibe coding and no-code tools in practiceNotable Quotes"If you create efficiencies that make a process so efficient that some number of people will no longer be necessary... you reduce the number of potential seats. You reduce the Tam.""If I give you a dollar and you're going to give me $10 back, I'd be insane to not do that as many times as I can.""You're really expecting everyone on Earth to be a product manager. That's just not going to happen.""The most people don't have a high level of agency. They don't know what they want, when they want it, and they don't know how to describe it."Practical TakeawaysEvaluate your pricing model now - If you're charging per seat and building AI features, you're creating a strategic vulnerabilityStart with new products - Test outcome-based pricing with new offerings rather than risking existing revenueIdentify measurable outcomes tied to customer revenue - What metrics does your sales team already use when discussing ROI?Consider hybrid models - Platform fees plus outcome pricing can balance predictability with value alignmentThe complexity trade-off - Outcome-based pricing must remain simple enough to avoid litigation-inducing confusion

Angela Earl is the Head of Marketing at Darrow AI, a B2B SaaS company specializing in leveraging artificial intelligence to deliver actionable insights and drive revenue growth for technology organizations. With over 20 years of experience in the tech sector, Angela is a seasoned go-to-market leader who has built high-performing teams and contributed to the success of multiple high-growth software companies. As an author and advisor, she focuses on culture, transparency, and revenue performance, and often emphasizes the importance of communication and trust in achieving organizational goals. In this episode… Revenue issues rarely begin with the numbers themselves. They usually show up earlier as misalignment, cautious conversations, or teams operating from entirely different assumptions. Does predictable growth depend less on new tools or processes and more on a culture of trust and communication? According to Angela Earl, a seasoned go-to-market leader, the answer lies in transparency. She believes revenue performance improves when teams feel safe being honest about risks, gaps, and what's actually happening in the pipeline, rather than presenting overly optimistic forecasts. When transparency becomes the norm, pressure turns productive, decisions get clearer, and revenue stops breaking down at handoffs. In this episode of the Revenue Engine Podcast, host Alex Gluz is joined by Angela Earl, Head of Marketing at Darrow AI, to discuss building a revenue culture rooted in transparency and alignment. They explore how culture directly impacts forecasting accuracy, why trust matters more than polish in pipeline reviews, and where revenue breakdowns really occur between teams. Angela also shares advice on using technology as an accelerator, not a fix, for culture and strategy gaps.

Sam Lessin is a partner at Slow Ventures, a former VP of Product at Facebook, and a two-time founder who's now teaching etiquette to Silicon Valley's founders. In this unconventional episode, Sam explains why proper etiquette has become a vital skill for founders in 2026—especially as technology becomes more central to society and trust becomes harder to build. His etiquette book and courses have become surprisingly popular, teaching founders how to “show up in a room with a low heart rate” and quickly build trust.We discuss:1. Why etiquette matters2. Sam's framework for showing up confidently, with a low heart rate, in any room3. How to navigate introductions, small talk, meetings, and meals like a pro4. Simple hacks for remembering names and handling awkward social situations5. 30+ specific etiquette tips—Brought to you by:10Web—Vibe-coding platform as an APIDX—The developer intelligence platform designed by leading researchersWorkOS—Modern identity platform for B2B SaaS, free up to 1 million MAUs—Episode transcript: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/silicon-valleys-missing-etiquette-playbook—Archive of all Lenny's Podcast transcripts:https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/yxi4s2w998p1gvtpu4193/AMdNPR8AOw0lMklwtnC0TrQ?rlkey=j06x0nipoti519e0xgm23zsn9&st=ahz0fj11&dl=0—Where to find Sam Lessin:• X: https://x.com/lessin• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wlessin• Website: https://www.wlessin.com• Podcast: https://moreorlesspod.com• Lettermeme: https://lettermeme.com/lessin—Where to find Lenny:• Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com• X: https://twitter.com/lennysan• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/—In this episode, we cover:(00:00) Sam's background(04:18) The role of etiquette in business success(09:30) Introductions and entering a room(16:20) Engaging conversations and building relationships(23:55) Hygiene and dress code essentials(33:42) Dining etiquette(37:15) Tipping etiquette(41:36) The “B&D trick”(43:05) Humor in social settings(45:18) Self-deprecating humor(47:42) Winding down conversations(49:20) Scheduling etiquette(55:23) Communication and email etiquette(01:02:28) Meeting etiquette tips(01:04:03) Virtual meeting best practices(01:05:15) The importance of cleaning up after yourself(01:05:58) Exiting and follow-up etiquette(01:07:24) Final thoughts(01:09:20) AI corner(01:11:13) Contrarian corner(01:16:25) Lightning round—Referenced:• Y Combinator: https://www.ycombinator.com• Kleiner Perkins: https://www.kleinerperkins.com• “Lose Yourself” by Eminem on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/track/7MJQ9Nfxzh8LPZ9e9u68Fq• Alison Gopnik on Childhood Learning, AI as a Cultural Technology, and Rethinking Nature vs. Nurture: https://conversationswithtyler.com/episodes/alison-gopnik• Garry Tan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/garrytan• Bain & Company: https://www.bain.com• Evernote: https://evernote.com• Calendly: https://calendly.com• Morning Brew: https://www.morningbrew.com• Cursor: https://cursor.com• The rise of Cursor: The $300M ARR AI tool that engineers can't stop using | Michael Truell (co-founder and CEO): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-rise-of-cursor-michael-truell• DigitalOcean: https://www.digitalocean.com• Cloudflare: https://www.cloudflare.com• SpaceX: https://www.spacex.com• Marc Andreessen on X: https://x.com/pmarca• Landman on Prime Video: https://www.amazon.com/Landman-Season-1/dp/B0D4D8RTMD• Dave Morin on X: https://x.com/davemorin—Recommended books:• Modern Etiquette in Technology, Finance, Society, and at Home: A Slow Ventures Handbook: https://www.amazon.com/Modern-Etiquette-Technology-Finance-Society-ebook/dp/B0G4HSKSY5• Life, the Universe and Everything: https://www.amazon.com/Universe-Everything-Hitchhikers-Guide-Galaxy-ebook/dp/B001ODEQ7A• The Ancient City: A Study on the Religion, Laws, and Institutions of Greece and Rome: https://www.amazon.com/Ancient-City-Religion-Institutions-Greece/dp/0801823048• Man's Search for Meaning: https://www.amazon.com/Mans-Search-Meaning-Viktor-Frankl-ebook/dp/B009U9S6FI• Area 51: An Uncensored History of America's Top Secret Military Base: https://www.amazon.com/Area-51-Uncensored-Americas-Military-ebook/dp/B004THU68Q• The Lessons of History: https://www.amazon.com/Lessons-History-Will-Durant/dp/143914995X• The Fish That Ate the Whale: The Life and Times of America's Banana King: https://www.amazon.com/Fish-That-Ate-Whale-Americas/dp/1250033314• The Last Kings of Shanghai: The Rival Jewish Dynasties That Helped Create Modern China: https://www.amazon.com/Last-Kings-Shanghai-Jewish-Dynasties/dp/0735224439—Production and marketing by https://penname.co/. For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email podcast@lennyrachitsky.com.—Lenny may be an investor in the companies discussed. To hear more, visit www.lennysnewsletter.com

Ander Tallet, co-founder and COO of Dash Bio and CEO of DigitalRadius, joins Ross Katz to discuss transforming the traditional CRO model through automation, transparency, and productization. Drawing on deep experience from Moderna, Science Exchange, and his leadership roles in digital transformation, Ander shares how Dash Bio is slashing turnaround times, improving data quality, and simplifying procurement for biotech companies. This episode unpacks the future of CRO services, strategic procurement, and the power of operational innovation in biotech. What you'll learn in this episode: >> Why traditional CRO models hinder speed and transparency in biotech >> How Dash Bio delivers 90% faster turnaround through automation >> What productizing CRO services really means for the customer experience >> How regulatory requirements shape innovation in clinical bioanalysis >> Why investor buy-in requires solving real, painful problems in biotech Meet our guest Ander Tallett is the co-founder and COO of Dash Bio and the CEO of DigitalRadius, where he leads digital transformation initiatives as one of the largest Smartsheet partners in the ecosystem. He previously served as Chief Strategy Officer at Science Exchange and co-founded Block Mill Capital, a B2B SaaS-focused investment fund shaped by his experience evaluating and implementing more than 100 SaaS platforms.  About the host Ross Katz is Principal and Data Science Lead at CorrDyn. Ross specializes in building intelligent data systems that empower biotech and healthcare organizations to extract insights and drive innovation. Connect with our guest: Sponsor: CorrDyn, a data consultancyConnect with Ander Tallet on LinkedIn  Connect with us: Follow the podcast for more insightful discussions on the latest in biotech and data science.Subscribe and leave a review if you enjoyed this episode!Connect with Ross Katz on LinkedIn Sponsored by… This episode is brought to you by CorrDyn, the leader in data-driven solutions for biotech and healthcare. Discover how CorrDyn is helping organizations turn data into breakthroughs at CorrDyn.

Every marketer wants to create a campaign that cuts through, but most B2B brands try to do it with more spend, more channels, and more polish. The real lever is simpler: say something people actually feel.That's the lesson of Oura Ring's ‘Give Us a Finger,' a campaign that nailed cultural timing, sharp copy, and product-specific boldness without losing its soul. In this episode, we explore its B2B marketing takeaways with the help of our special guest Sylvia LePoidevin, CMO & Creator of The Zero to One Marketer.Together, we break down what B2B marketers can learn from making your copy the multiplier, leading with tension, and turning cultural insight into measurable demand.About our guest, Sylvia LePoidevinSylvia LePoidevin is a B2B SaaS marketing leader who has gone from the first marketing hire to CMO at two companies now valued over $2 billion combined. Most recently, Sylvia was the CMO at Kandji. She joined as employee #4 and helped scale the company from pre-seed to an $850M valuation with global offices across the US, London, Sydney, and Tokyo. A former early hire at DataFox (acquired by Oracle's AI group) and FloQast (now valued at $1.6B), Sylvia has spent her career building go-to-market engines from zero, often without playbooks, resources, or precedent. Her passion is helping founders and scaling teams build with the buyer first, using messaging, content, and community as multipliers for growth. Raised in remote Africa before moving to the US alone at 17, Sylvia credits her resilience and outsider perspective as her greatest assets in navigating zero-to-one challenges in both life and business.What B2B Companies Can Learn From Oura Ring's ‘Give Us the Finger' Campaign:Make your copy the multiplier, not the footnote. Sylvia's first lesson from ‘Give Us a Finger; is that the words are the performance channel. She says, “You think so much about the budget and the metrics, but if you put half as much of that effort into just like what the freaking copy is saying, that can change the unit economics of your whole campaign more than anything.” Oura didn't win because they spent more, they won because the headline is sticky, visual, and instantly understandable. In B2B, it should be the same. Before you tune targeting or add spend, pressure-test the message. One sharp line that people repeat will outperform five “optimized” versions nobody remembers.Lead with tension. What makes this campaign work, in Sylvia's eyes, is that it taps a real, shared feeling in the market. She grounds it in one clear idea: “The whole concept of ‘Give Us the Finger' is sort of an act of defiance against aging.” That's why it resonates beyond the cult fans. It's selling an attitude, not a tracker. For B2B marketers, the move is to find the tension your buyers already live in and build the campaign around that. When the audience feels seen first, the product lands as the natural weapon.Keep the wrinkles in your writing. Sylvia loves this campaign because it doesn't feel sanded down into safe brand mush. Her takeaway is blunt: “ AI takes the wrinkles out of your writing… People are now looking for the wrinkles because it shows that it's real.” Oura's creative has an edge, personality, and a little defiance, which is exactly why it sticks. In B2B, where everything tends to sound committee-approved, the fastest way to disappear is to over-smooth. Let your voice have texture. Keep the sharp edges that make your brand human. That's what people notice, trust, and remember.Quote“ 95% of your buyer is not in market at any moment, only 5% is. And it's very lucrative and tempting to pour all of your resources into that 5% and try to capture the existing demand. But eventually it's going to cap out. And to really achieve that hockey stick, long-term growth, you need to invest in the 95%.”Time Stamps[00:55] Meet Sylvia LePoidevin, CMO & Creator of The Zero to One Marketer[01:26] Why Oura Ring's “Give Us the Finger” Campaign?[04:32] Sylvia's Career Journey in Content Marketing[05:47] Inside the Strategy Behind Oura Ring's ‘Give Us the Finger' [10:52] B2B Marketing Takeaways from Oura Ring's ‘Give Us the Finger' Campaign[26:48] A Content Marketing Playbook for First-Time CMOs[31:47] Modern Marketing Strategies That Actually Work[40:26] The Hidden Power of Internal Influencers[43:55] AI in Content Creation: What to Use, What to Avoid[49:29] Final Thoughts and TakeawaysLinksConnect with Sylvia on LinkedInAbout Remarkable!Remarkable! is created by the team at Caspian Studios, the premier B2B Podcast-as-a-Service company. Caspian creates both nonfiction and fiction series for B2B companies. If you want a fiction series check out our new offering - The Business Thriller - Hollywood style storytelling for B2B. Learn more at CaspianStudios.com. In today's episode, you heard from Ian Faison (CEO of Caspian Studios) and Meredith Gooderham (Head of Production). Remarkable was produced this week by Jess Avellino, mixed by Scott Goodrich, and our theme song is “Solomon” by FALAK. Create something remarkable. Rise above the noise. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of The Fractional CMO Show, Casey tackles the brutal reality every fractional CMO faces: prospects just don't care about what you're offering.    Casey shares a war story about losing a private jet deal the moment he confused "FOB" with "FBO" - instantly revealing himself as an outsider faking expertise. The prospect literally laughed in his face. Most fractional CMOs show up talking about "marketing that isn't working" instead of understanding the CEO whose marriage is crumbling from late nights, or the franchisor terrified about what their FDD will reveal.    The truth? You don't know your audience well enough. Experienced executives don't hire generalists claiming to help "B2B SaaS" or "healthcare." Learn the pains. Speak the language. Become a student of one specific industry instead of pretending you can help everyone. Key Topics Covered: -Know your audience deeply: Become fluent in their language and visceral pains, not surface-level problems  -The FOB vs FBO lesson: One wrong acronym cost Casey a private jet client - proving he was an outsider faking expertise  -Real pains business owners face: Crumbling marriages from late nights, embarrassing FDD reports, losing first-to-market position, burnt out from bad consulting advice  -"B2B SaaS" isn't a niche: Go specific enough that you know when companies get funding, what software they use, and speak the insider language  -Nobody knows who you are: Stop waiting for inbound - go talk to strangers, build real relationships, announce yourself as the specialist  -Business owners spend aggressively: They don't want to save money, they want speed - and they'll pay for the right person  -Bridge the awareness gap: Prospects know something's broken but don't know a fractional CMO exists as the solution

In this episode of The SaaS Revolution Show, Alex Theuma is joined by Nick Turner, CEO of Dreamdata, to discuss the journey from CRO to CEO and what it really takes to scale a B2B SaaS company in the age of AI. Nick shares lessons from Dreamdata's growth journey, including the company's $55M Series B, and explains why trust and accuracy matter more than hype when building AI products. He breaks down the risks of applying generative AI and agents to complex revenue and attribution data and what SaaS leaders should consider before putting AI in front of customers, boards, or finance teams. Alex and Nick also discuss: - Nick's transition from CRO to CEO and what changed at the leadership level. - How Dreamdata approaches AI as a system of context, not just automation. - Why reliable attribution and data integrity are critical for modern GTM teams. - How investors evaluate AI, retention, and fundamentals at growth stage. - Practical advice for founders building sustainable, predictable SaaS businesses into 2026.       Check out the other ways SaaStock is helping SaaS founders move their business forward: 

Boost Your E-commerce with AI-Powered Conversion Tools from Optimonk Optimonk.com About the Guest(s): Krisztian Kiraly is a seasoned Senior E-commerce Growth Strategist and CRO (Conversion Rate Optimization) expert with over ten years of experience in digital marketing. He specializes in helping Direct-to-Consumer (DTC) brands increase revenue by optimizing their full sales funnels. His expertise has delivered impressive results, including a remarkable 86% conversion rate lift in a single month. Currently, Krisztian Kiraly is affiliated with OptiMonk, a leading B2B SaaS company that provides AI-driven CRO tools for enhancing e-commerce performance. Episode Summary: In this episode of The Chris Voss Show, Chris engages in a riveting conversation with Krisztian Kiraly, a leader in the e-commerce optimization space, where they delve into conversion rate optimization (CRO) techniques and tools crucial for modern online businesses. As Krisztian Kiraly articulates why CRO is becoming pivotal in the digital marketing domain due to ever-rising ad costs and heightened customer expectations, listeners will gain invaluable insights into improving online sales performance. This episode promises to unravel data-driven strategies, addressing the challenges Digital Commerce faces amidst increasing competition. Krisztian Kiraly further discusses the transformative role of AI in e-commerce optimization, specifically through their SaaS offering, OptiMonk. The podcast explores how OptiMonk’s AI-powered tools assist businesses in reducing cart abandonment, enhancing product visual appeal, and personalizing direct marketing outreach. This episode also dives deep into the importance of implementing systematic processes over isolated tactics in digital marketing, providing a comprehensive overview of how to effectively leverage technology to achieve more significant business outcomes. Key Takeaways: Conversion rate optimization is essential due to increasing online competition and rising advertising costs. OptiMonk’s AI-based tools offer solutions to enhance CRO by providing personalized and targeted customer experiences. For an e-commerce site to effectively use OptiMonk, it should have a substantial visitor flow to leverage the tool's full potential. AI can dynamically generate more compelling product images and descriptions, potentially transforming visitor interactions and increasing sales. Hyper-personalization in digital marketing campaigns can lead to enhanced customer experiences, crucial in earning robust ROI from ad spend. Notable Quotes: “I call it the hope marketing, which means I do some tactics without measuring anything, and I hope to get results.” “Conversion rate optimization will be one of the most important areas of digital marketing in the future.” “With OptiMonk, it’s possible to rescue the cart abandoners on-site, which is much more effective than just a normal automated email.” “AI does the heavy lifting, but you are in control.” “The future is in segmentation and hyper-personalization, creating a tailored customer experience from beginning to end.”

[Top Resources Series] Marketing Secrets and Productivity Hacks Mitch Steinberg is the CEO of Wilshire Consulting Partners, a financial consulting firm offering tax planning, accounting, outsourced bookkeeping, CFO services, and strategic guidance to individuals and businesses. Chris Mason is a marketing expert who specializes in helping business owners turn their expertise into revenue through data-driven, results-oriented marketing strategies. Alex Gluz is the Founder of T.A. Monroe, a demand generation agency helping B2B SaaS companies to build marketing revenue engines to meet and exceed revenue and growth goals in a scalable, predictable, and sustainable way. Liana Ling is the Founder of Power Up Strategy, a digital marketing agency that empowers visionary entrepreneurs and expert-based businesses to achieve predictable, sustainable client growth through strategic, data-driven marketing systems. In this episode… In today's fast-paced world, businesses must navigate marketing, finances, and growth while staying competitive. Could a data-driven, strategic approach be the key? How can business owners use expert insights to optimize operations and ensure long-term success? Mitch Steinberg, Chris Mason, Alex Gluz, and Liana Ling reveal how they're transforming their industries with innovative approaches to growth and efficiency. Mitch highlights how proper financial systems and bookkeeping can help businesses avoid common pitfalls and achieve sustainable growth. Chris explains how building marketing funnels around existing customer desires leads to higher conversions, while Alex shares how understanding demographics and refining messaging can drive better customer acquisition and reduce costs. Liana emphasizes how AI-driven tools like N8N and OpenRouter can streamline operations, automate content creation, and improve decision-making for businesses looking to scale efficiently. In this episode of the Inspired Insider Podcast, Dr. Jeremy Weisz speaks with Mitch Steinberg, Chris Mason, Alex Gluz, and Liana Ling to discuss strategies for building sustainable business growth. They discuss optimizing financial systems, creating revenue-generating marketing funnels, and utilizing AI tools to enhance business efficiency. They also dive into the importance of understanding customer needs and demographics to drive success.

Elena Verna is the head of growth at Lovable, the leading AI-powered app builder that hit $200 million in annual recurring revenue in under a year with just 100 employees. In this record fourth appearance on the podcast, Elena shares how the traditional growth playbook has been completely rewritten for AI companies. She explains why Lovable focuses on innovation over optimization, how they've shifted from activation to building new features, and why giving away their product for free has become their most powerful growth strategy.We discuss:1. Why 60% to 70% of traditional growth tactics no longer apply in AI2. Why you have to re-find product-market fit every 3 months3. The specific growth tactics driving Lovable's unprecedented growth4. Why giving away product is a growth strategy that beats paid ads5. “Minimum lovable product” as the new standard (not minimum viable product)6. Why activation now belongs to product teams, not growth teams7. Whether you should join an AI startup (honest tradeoffs)—Brought to you by:WorkOS—Modern identity platform for B2B SaaS, free up to 1 million MAUsVercel—Your collaborative AI assistant to design, iterate, and scale full-stack applications for the webPersona—A global leader in digital identity verification—Transcript: ⁠https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-new-ai-growth-playbook-for-2026-elena-verna⁠—My biggest takeaways (for paid newsletter subscribers): ⁠https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/i/181207556/my-biggest-takeaways-from-this-conversation⁠—Where to find Elena Verna:• X: https://x.com/elenaverna• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elenaverna• Newsletter: https://www.elenaverna.com—Where to find Lenny:• Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com• X: https://twitter.com/lennysan• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/—In this episode, we cover:(00:00) Introduction to Elena Verna(05:19) The scale and growth of Lovable(08:55) Confidence in Lovable as a business(12:17) Retention at Lovable(15:02) Lovable's unique growth levers(28:13) The role of marketing in Lovable's success(38:09) Launching new features(40:59) Hiring and team dynamics(43:17) The value of vibe coding(49:46) The importance of community(51:47) Giving away your product for free(56:26) Tripling their company size(01:00:23) Product-market-fit challenges(01:08:50) Advice for joining AI companies(01:12:00) Work-life balance(01:15:20) What it's like to work at Lovable(01:19:45) Women in tech(01:25:29) Final thoughts and lightning round—Referenced:• Elena Verna on how B2B growth is changing, product-led growth, product-led sales, why you should go freemium not trial, what features to make free, and much more: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/elena-verna-on-why-every-company• The ultimate guide to product-led sales | Elena Verna: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-ultimate-guide-to-product-led• 10 growth tactics that never work | Elena Verna (Amplitude, Miro, Dropbox, SurveyMonkey): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/10-growth-tactics-that-never-work-elena-verna• Lovable: https://lovable.dev• Building Lovable: $10M ARR in 60 days with 15 people | Anton Osika (co-founder and CEO): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/building-lovable-anton-osika• Stripe: https://stripe.com• What differentiates the highest-performing product teams | John Cutler (Amplitude, The Beautiful Mess): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/what-differentiates-the-highest-performing• How to win in the AI era: Ship a feature every week, embrace technical debt, ruthlessly cut scope, and create magic your competitors can't copy | Gaurav Misra (CEO and co-founder of Captions): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/how-to-win-in-the-ai-era-gaurav-misra• “Dumbest idea I've heard” to $100M ARR: Inside the rise of Gamma | Grant Lee (CEO): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/how-50-people-built-a-profitable-ai-unicorn• Eric Ries on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eries• Elena's post on LinkedIn about Lovable Missions: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/elenaverna_everythingispossible-lovableway-activity-7401627519646474242-hn6e• SheBuilds: https://shebuilds.lovable.app• Shopify + Lovable: https://lovable.dev/shopify• The Product-Market Fit Treadmill: Why every AI company is sprinting just to stay in place: https://www.elenaverna.com/p/the-product-market-fit-treadmill• Cursor: https://cursor.com• The rise of Cursor: The $300M ARR AI tool that engineers can't stop using | Michael Truell (co-founder and CEO): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-rise-of-cursor-michael-truell• Unorthodox frameworks for growing your product, career, and impact | Bangaly Kaba (YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, Instacart): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/frameworks-for-growing-your-career-bangaly-kaba• The adjacent user: https://brianbalfour.com/quick-takes/the-adjacent-user• Granola: https://www.granola.ai• Wispr Flow: https://wisprflow.ai• I'm worried about women in tech: https://www.elenaverna.com/p/im-worried-about-women-in-tech• Slack founder: Mental models for building products people love ft. Stewart Butterfield: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/slack-founder-stewart-butterfield—Production and marketing by https://penname.co/. For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email podcast@lennyrachitsky.com.—Lenny may be an investor in the companies discussed. To hear more, visit www.lennysnewsletter.com

Alexander Embiricos leads product on Codex, OpenAI's powerful coding agent, which has grown 20x since August and now serves trillions of tokens weekly. Before joining OpenAI, Alexander spent five years building a pair programming product for engineers. He now works at the frontier of AI-led software development, building what he describes as a software engineering teammate—an AI agent designed to participate across the entire development lifecycle.We discuss:1. Why Codex has grown 20x since launch and what product decisions unlocked this growth2. How OpenAI built the Sora Android app in just 18 days using Codex3. Why the real bottleneck to AGI-level productivity isn't model capability—it's human typing speed4. The vision of AI as a proactive teammate, not just a tool you prompt5. The bottleneck shifting from building to reviewing AI-generated work6. Why coding will be a core competency for every AI agent—because writing code is how agents use computers best—Brought to you by:WorkOS—Modern identity platform for B2B SaaS, free up to 1 million MAUs: https://workos.com/lennyFin—The #1 AI agent for customer service: https://fin.ai/lennyJira Product Discovery—Confidence to build the right thing: https://atlassian.com/lenny/?utm_source=lennypodcast&utm_medium=paid-audio&utm_campaign=fy24q1-jpd-imc—Transcript: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/why-humans-are-ais-biggest-bottleneck—My biggest takeaways (for paid newsletter subscribers): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/i/180365355/my-biggest-takeaways-from-this-conversation—Where to find Alexander Embiricos:• X: https://x.com/embirico• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/embirico—Where to find Lenny:• Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com• X: https://twitter.com/lennysan• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/—In this episode, we cover:(00:00) Introduction to Alexander Embiricos (05:13) The speed and ambition at OpenAI(11:34) Codex: OpenAI's coding agent(15:43) Codex's explosive growth(24:59) The future of AI and coding agents(33:11) The impact of AI on engineering(44:08) How Codex has impacted the way PMs operate(45:40) Throwaway code and ubiquitous coding(47:10) Shipping the Sora Android app(49:01) Building the Atlas browser(53:34) Codex's impact on productivity(55:35) Measuring progress on Codex(58:09) Why they are building a web browser(01:01:58) Non-engineering use cases for Codex(01:02:53) Codex's capabilities(01:04:49) Tips for getting started with Codex(01:05:37) Skills to lean into in the AI age(01:10:36) How far are we from a human version of AI?(01:13:31) Hiring and team growth at Codex(01:15:47) Lightning round and final thoughts—Referenced:• OpenAI: https://openai.com• Codex: https://openai.com/codex• Inside ChatGPT: The fastest-growing product in history | Nick Turley (Head of ChatGPT at OpenAI): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/inside-chatgpt-nick-turley• Dropbox: http://dropbox.com• Datadog: https://www.datadoghq.com• Andrej Karpathy on X: https://x.com/karpathy• The rise of Cursor: The $300M ARR AI tool that engineers can't stop using | Michael Truell (co-founder and CEO): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-rise-of-cursor-michael-truell• Atlas: https://openai.com/index/introducing-chatgpt-atlas• How Block is becoming the most AI-native enterprise in the world | Dhanji R. Prasanna: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/how-block-is-becoming-the-most-ai-native• Goose: https://block.xyz/inside/block-open-source-introduces-codename-goose• Lessons on building product sense, navigating AI, optimizing the first mile, and making it through the messy middle | Scott Belsky (Adobe, Behance): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/lessons-on-building-product-sense• Sora Android app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.openai.sora&hl=en_US&pli=1• The OpenAI Podcast—ChatGPT Atlas and the next era of web browsing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdbgNC80PMw&list=PLOXw6I10VTv9GAOCZjUAAkSVyW2cDXs4u&index=2• How to measure AI developer productivity in 2025 | Nicole Forsgren: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/how-to-measure-ai-developer-productivity• Compiling: https://3d.xkcd.com/303• Jujutsu Kaisen on Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/title/81278456• Tesla: https://www.tesla.com• Radical Candor: From theory to practice with author Kim Scott: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/radical-candor-from-theory-to-practice• Andreas Embirikos: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andreas_Embirikos• George Embiricos: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Embiricos: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Embiricos—Recommended books:• Culture series: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WLZZ9WV• The Lord of the Rings: https://www.amazon.com/Lord-Rings-J-R-R-Tolkien/dp/0544003411• A Fire Upon the Deep (Zones of Thought series Book 1): https://www.amazon.com/Fire-Upon-Deep-Zones-Thought/dp/1250237750• Radical Candor: Be a Kick-Ass Boss Without Losing Your Humanity: https://www.amazon.com/Radical-Candor-Kick-Ass-Without-Humanity/dp/1250103509—Production and marketing by https://penname.co/. 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