Creativity is Spirituality

For two years now this podcast has served as the fertile ground for the emergence of the Creativity is Spirituality Ministry, and we couldn't have done it without you, our listeners. Ministry is a term I don't take lightly. It has a very specific connotation for me as someone who was raised in and subsequently deconstructed and departed from evangelical christianity in the United States. Seeing as though I'm only months away from Ordination as an Interfaith Minister, I hope to not only reclaim the word ministry for myself in my calling as well as reclaim it for you, and what I mean by ministry comes from an interfaith perspective, and refers only to the ways I make offerings to the community. While our podcast is on hiatus until I am ordained in July of 2022, what we do is evolving, and the ways in which we accept support has changed, too. Creativity is Spirituality now has a team in place to make this ministry possible, for which I am sincerely grateful, and allows the ideas we promote to reach further. The best way to stay engaged with us these days is to visit our Linktree, where you will find an entire menu of our offerings, or ways to show your support for this ministry, and to stay informed on events, announcements, and more conversations like this one. You can also find us on Youtube, Twitter, Instagram, or LinkedIn You can also sponsor this podcast monthly by going to the description on Anchor or Spotify. We appreciate our listeners very much. Thank you so much for your support, in any way you can show it! --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/aprilklingmeyer/support

Alexander Meyer is the Junior National Team Head Coach of Archery Ireland as well as a User Experience Designer. These two expertises may not seem like they have a great deal of overlap, but Alex has found many commonalities between the two in his simultaneous career in both fields. Originally from New York City, the son of a painter and an interior designer who raised him to be artistically inclined, Alex has lived most of his life in Austin, Texas, having recently moved to Ireland in summer of 2019 to coach archery for the national Olympic-level team. Making it to become one of the 10 highest qualified Olympic-style archers in the world hasn't happened without tremendous and seemingly insurmountable setbacks, the greatest of which being the relationship he has had to forge with his own body, transforming that relationship from one that is adversarial to one that is collaborative only through open communication to and from the physical body, which for Alex has served as a portal to his own understanding of his spiritual nature. Here's the TEDx talk referenced in the episode with Tim Harford. Alexander can be found at: alexmeyer.design instagram.com/archeralexmeyer --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/aprilklingmeyer/support

(PLEASE NOTE: This episode is FROM OUR “Dream Journaling for Creatives” podcast series archives. Republishing once again to promote April's launch of “DREAM TIME: How and Why You Can Make the Dream Work,” a free informational ebooklet available at https://creativityisspirituality.ck.page/make-the-dream-work) Meghan is at a crossroads in her career as a community organizer. She has high hopes for the future, which is a rare and vital way to think this day and age, and she sees tremendous promise in the power of people she serves in the various organizations she works for and supports. Her dream delves into her positive approach about the issues we face today, and being quite a vivid one that casts Meg herself as the woman she aspires to be, it borders on the edge of being a vision of the future. Meg's coming to terms with her gift of clairvoyance, and wow-- what an amazing gift to have as a community builder. Some of the advice and foretelling she receives in this episode is just generally good for anyone, even if it is very specific to Meg's own life.  For more information about the organizations Meghan mentions in this episode, you can visit: Go Austin Vamos Austin (GAVA)  Measure Austin GroundWork Music Project --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/aprilklingmeyer/support

Samuel D. Ibrahim was once a Baptist minister in Houston, TX. He's also a licensed attorney who advocated for special needs children and parents alienated from their children. His first book, "Mind of the Prophet - The Diary of a Curious Mind - Volume I,” was an accident. Sam never intended to write a book when he began journaling. Writing helped him to overcome a severe, protracted bout with depression, and served as a method to organize his thoughts to understand recent mystical experiences with Creation. However, after sharing his expanded views about God and the Universe, many of his blog readers encouraged him to publish these supernatural experiences for public consumption and discussion. Find him and support his work at mindoftheprophet.wordpress.com --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/aprilklingmeyer/support

Suzanne is a martial artist and dog mom who loves travel, photography, and treasure hunting, among other things. She is currently in training to become an ordained minister with OneSpirit Interfaith Foundation. Instagram: @suzernathy Travel/Life Blog: behindtheinstagram.blogspot.com Self Defense Blog: suzernathy.blogspot.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/suzanne.abernathy.7 --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/aprilklingmeyer/support

Jude-Martin is a people and organisational development professional with 15+ years' specialism in Leadership, Culture Change, and Personal Development. He has worked with public, private & not-for-profit organisations in education, insurance, transport, healthcare, professional services, and consulting sectors in the UK and Australia. His mission is to use social media to bring mindfulness practices to as many as possible, particularly those in the workplace, so they can be at their best and move with confidence by applying simple mindfulness practices, including learning to harness the power of silence. Connect with Jude-Martin here: Website: www.jude-martin.com Email: info@jude-martin.com Instagram: @judemartinetuka Twitter: Jude_MEtuka Visit https://jude-martin.groovepages.com/corporatemeditation for more info on how to book Jude-Martin for yourself or your organization. Look out for: Jude's new online Masterclass – Total Self Transformation, currently in production and scheduled for release December 2021. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/aprilklingmeyer/support

James Prescott has hosted the Poema Podcast since 2015, where he curates conversations with international authors, speakers and advocates on topics of spirituality, faith, mental health, grief and identity. He's contributed to Huffington Post, Thrive Global and many other publications. You can find James online at jamesprescott.co.uk and follow him on Twitter & Instagram at @JamesPrescott7. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/aprilklingmeyer/support

Cassandra Lawrence works engaging faith communities to address anti-Muslim discrimination. She is a trained mediator, dialogue facilitator, and interfaith and racial justice community organizer. She also teaches negotiation and conflict transformation primarily to faith communities. She has a BA in Religious Studies from the University of British Columbia and a master's degree in comparative ethnic conflict from Queen's University Belfast, Northern Ireland. In 2021 she completed a master of divinity at Wesley Theological Seminary with honors, specializing in Public Theology, and received the Excellence in Public Theology Award. She can be found on Twitter at @casslawrence. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/aprilklingmeyer/support

Sophie Strand is a poet, historical-fiction writer, and essayist based in the Hudson Valley with a focus on the intersection of spirituality and ecology. Her first book of essays The Flowering Wand: Lunar Kings, Lichenized Lovers, Transpecies Magicians, and Rhizomatic Harpists Heal the Masculine is forthcoming from Sacred Planet Books (Inner Traditions). She has three chapbooks: Love Song to a Blue God (Oread Press) and Those Other Flowers to Come (Dancing Girl Press) and The Approach (The Swan) Her writing has been published by The Dark Mountain Project, www.poetry.org, Unearthed, Braided Way Magazine, Creatrix Magazine, and Your Impossible Voice.  And you can continue to follow her work and poetry on Facebook or Instagram: @cosmogyny. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/aprilklingmeyer/support

Brooke Preston is an Ohio-based comedy writer, satirist, teacher, and storyteller. Her work has been featured in The New York Times, The Cut, Real Simple, McSweeney's, Reductress, Men's Health, and other fine outlets and crumpled napkins. She is a co-founder and editor of online satire publication The Belladonna; she and her fellow editors co-wrote New Erotica for Feminists: Satirical Fantasies of Love, Lust and Equal Pay. She has taught for The Second City, Thurber House and more, and was head writer for this year's Thurber Prize ceremony.  Follow her on Twitter at @bigu. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/aprilklingmeyer/support

Johanna is the director of Illumina Yoga and is known as a teacher of teachers and an inspiration fairy who mentors countless yoga instructors on their ever expanding journeys. She is a sequencing specialist devoted to the infinite creative and connective stream of each individual's truth and is the founder of the Full Spectrum Sequencing Approach. Her classes incorporate poetry, moving metaphor and music in a rich orchestral way that guides the student on a soulful, sweaty journey into the heart of what it means to be human. As a spiritual counselor, she is recognized for her ability to see the light, wholeness and infinite potential within everyone she meets. www.Illuminayoga.com Instagram: @johannagbell --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/aprilklingmeyer/support

Cheryl O'Meara is a designer and owner of an antique textile and wallpaper archive. Cheryl and her archive are resident at The Monastery, Manchester where she is creative consultant as well as studying (with April!) to be a OneSpirit Interfaith Minister. As a designer she works with many well known brands from high street to haute couture, as well as creating magical interiors for hotels, homes and now a Monastery! Her constant creativity is grounded in daily spiritual practice and a love of nature. IG: @print_pattern_archive www.printpatternarchive.com --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/aprilklingmeyer/support

Melanie is a facilitator, empowerment coach and founder of the Green Step. Always guided by love of animals and the natural world, she studied Zoology in Cork, Ireland and went on to become a facilitator with a focus on ecological grief and activist burnout. She is currently training as an interfaith minister with a particular interest in Jungian shadow work techniques and sound healing to help heal and enhance our relationship with the more-than-human world. She wonders; 'How do we co-create a post capitalist reality where we embody love and truly cherish one another and our earth mother?' For more of her work you can visit www.thegreenstep.org www.melanieodriscoll.com Or find her on Instagram @awaywiththefairies_3 --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/aprilklingmeyer/support

"Eileen is a Social Physicist and Media Investment Strategist with an empathetic heart centered in a casing of imagination and the Founder/CEO of ideality.com and Blitz Media Labs. In the 1980's Eileen authored a college text book on advertising called, Blitz: You Are What You Pretend To Be, a hands-on book to help students become proficient in media buying. She taught classes at Southwest Texas State University and has instructed many advertising professionals around the country with Media Buying Academy. She has been the visionary force in presidential campaigns, global advertising campaigns, internet strategies, and creating reality platforms. Eileen is a past president of the Austin Advertising Federation. In 1995-96 she was awarded The American Advertising Federation's District's Member of the Year for her work." (from her website, www.ideality.com) Her work at ideality.com has earned the UK's prestigious Content Creation Award, along with earning her a Best of the Best award and placement in 2020's Who's Who in the US. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/aprilklingmeyer/support

Maria Jordan O'Reilly lives in rural County Cavan, Ireland where she actively explores her creative side and, through several community based groups, flourishes in her profession as an artist. Maria dabbled in creative pursuits all her life, but as an emerging artist, has only just begun to put work into the public domain in the past 3 years. She is an active member of Bailieborough Creative Hub with a with pieces in a exhibitions across Ireland. Maria brings a wealth of experience of life, a full gamut of emotions that tell the tale of her trials that resonate with many experiences across her fanbase. She promotes inclusion and diversity in her community and participates in providing amplification to voices of rural youth, immigrants, and people of color throughout Cavan in the ‘Next Chapter' program, and was instrumental in developing and directing a series of video interviews to document their stories. Maria is passionate about mental health issues and "the constant struggle many have to move from the darkness into the light." She also works with the theme of environmental diversity and sustainability, often "repurposing rubbish to create multimedia pieces that speak to our ‘wasted earth' and the need for care to sustain our planet." Learn more about Maria at https://mariajordanoreilly.com/ --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/aprilklingmeyer/support

Andrew Harvey is Founder & Director of the Institute for Sacred Activism, an international organization focused on inviting concerned people to take up the challenge of our contemporary global crises by becoming inspired, effective, and practical agents of institutional and systemic change, in order to create peace and sustainability. Andrew Andrew was born in south India, where he lived until he was nine years old. He left India to attend private school in England and entered Oxford University. Harvey had become disillusioned with life at Oxford and returned to his native India, where a series of mystical experiences initiated his spiritual journey. Over the next thirty years he plunged into different mystical traditions to learn their secrets and practices. He has since lived in London, Paris, New York, and San Francisco, and has continued to study (and teach the wisdom of) a variety of religions, including Hinduism, Buddhism, and Christianity. He has written and edited over 30 books. (Bio excerpts taken from his website, https://www.andrewharvey.net/meet-andrew) --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/aprilklingmeyer/support

After the fateful day of September 11th, 2001, my brother Steven Kling placed his career in IT on hold, joining a Special Operations unit of the U.S. Army known as Civil Affairs. Its mission: to protect refugees and rebuild societies torn apart by war. Steven served two combat tours in Afghanistan and Iraq and is a recipient of the Bronze Star, the Combat Action Badge and the Joint Services Commendation Medal. Steven left the Reserve after 11 years of distinguished service, serving as both enlisted and officer, and achieving the rank of Captain. These days he enjoys a mostly quiet country life in Dripping Springs, Texas with his wife and twin boys, however, the current political environment has motivated him to protect his community in a new capacity as a political activist and former candidate, charged with the passion to reform corruption at the state level, bolster public education, and fight systemic oppression. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/aprilklingmeyer/support

Suella Holland has been taking photos since the late 1980s. She graduated from studying Photography in Dublin Institute of Technology in 1993 and after college was employed there as a supervisor for students' studio sessions and as a lecturer in Introduction to Photography in DIT Mountjoy Square for Design Display students. For twenty-plus years, she's been working for a publisher and serves as the staff photographer. In 2013 she initiated work on the abandoned buildings within Ireland under the name Forsaken Ireland. Suella also works with local schools to teach photographic skills to children. She is currently working with Heather Smith, a photographer based in Denver, Colorado, USA on a long distance collaboration. To help her with the funds she needs to receive her Masters Degree, go to: https://gofund.me/5e25d2b6 --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/aprilklingmeyer/support

Karen Knight is an experienced community leader, sustainability expert, project manager and entrepreneur. In her 30+ year career, Karen has served as an active International Living Future Institute (ILFI) ambassador, has lead multi-disciplinary teams in environmental and health intervention, and has trained as a practitioner of both Creative Alchemy™ and Mobius Method™ as a professional facilitator. She and her partner Graham have been working these past few years to create and expand 67-acre Ardor Wood Farm in Red Rock, Texas--a regenerative wildlife and human habitat, available for private and corporate events. More info: www.ardorwoodfarm.com --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/aprilklingmeyer/support

Heather Bache was Born in Melbourne, Australia where she began what was to become a lifelong love affair with textiles. At 23 Heather left Melbourne with a backpack and headed north. Without access to a sewing machine, she started to make her clothes with hand stitches. After doing a few fashion shows in her home country in Australia, she moved to South India and worked extensively with one of then local tailors for the next seven years, while sometimes being involved with a local Reforestation and Village Development project there. At 37 Heather then moved to the USA, married her longterm partner, and reinvented herself as a dressmaker to make a living. They moved to Central Texas where she rediscovered her love of design and started working in the fashion industries, creating garments and costumes for fashion and film. Heather launched her own brand OTSU in 2015, an archaic Japanese word, that means, "witty, romantic, quirky, odd and tasty." When Covid hit, she went to work making masks for family and friends, and eventually decided to start using some of the fabrics and yarns she had collected over a lifetime from her world travels. Currently she is focusing her design work on knit and crochet wear. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/aprilklingmeyer/support

Juliet Whyte is an accredited and certified Cognitive Hypnotherapist, EFT & NLP Practitioner and Transformational Coach. She is the founder of Wellbeing upon Thames, supporting women who are struggling with difficult emotions and patterns of behaviour to restore their wellbeing & worthiness and discover their innate potential. Her integrative, tailored approach facilitates positive and transformational change. Website: www.wellbeinguponthames.co.uk Instagram: www.instagram.com/julietwhyte_wellbeing --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/aprilklingmeyer/support

Rachel lives in Denver, Colorado with three full time dogs, along with the occasional foster, along with two cats, all of them rescues. She volunteers for a local dog rescue, dances with other adult ballerinas at a local ballet studio, and loves to paint, color, embroider, read books... anything she finds entertaining. She is a deeply spiritual person with a keen interest in connecting both ideas and people. To get to know Rachel better, visit https://metasynchronic.com/wp/ To support My Fairy Dawg Mother Rescue, go to https://dogrescuecolorado.org/ --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/aprilklingmeyer/support

Em Ryan is a Holistic Psychotherapist and Shamanic Sound Healer and Wedding Celebrant. She has been counseling teens and adults since 2003. She moved to Ireland from America in 2016 and has recently permanently settled in County Cavan. Em is the owner/operator of Anam Cara Therapy, Spirit Soul Sounds and The Roving Rev. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/aprilklingmeyer/support

Valerie Ward has been making things since a young age. Sewing, knitting, and crochet have been her main modes of creation, but she has also dabbled in metalsmithing, paper arts, and writing. She has been doing improv for nearly 20 years, and has traveled around the world to teach and perform. She is the cofounder of Sweet Ritual Vegan Ice Cream and of Good Work Austin, a non-profit dedicated to helping small businesses put their progressive values to work. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/aprilklingmeyer/support

Zafira Vrba is a Swedish-Czech artist and educator based in Stockholm, Sweden. Zafira works with digital media, performance, video, textiles and pedagogy. In their art they work with trans visibility, queer ancestry, radical mourning and anti-racist feminism. To meet and connect with Zafira, visit: www.zafirevrba.com (NOTE: The original recording of this podcast and its description refer to the former spelling and pronunciation of Zafira's name with their express permission.) --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/aprilklingmeyer/support

Lars Wolfshield is a Texas native and classically trained musician who has been involved in the music and entertainment industry from a young age, from assisting renowned producer Alan Parsons (The Beatles, Pink Floyd), to tracking a record with Ikey Owens (The Mars Volta, Jack White), to numerous Afropunk festivals and managing Pleasure Venom's tour opening for Garbage. Lars's artists have been featured on The Fader, VICE, NME, Alt-Press, KERRANG!, AFROPUNK, Brooklyn Vegan, and more. Lars currently manages punk bands Pleasure Venom and BLXPLTN and works in an advisory capacity with many others, focusing particularly on BIPOC and queer artists. Outside of the music business, Lars designs and renovates residential spaces and manages a short-term rental business. Lars also enjoys singing, songwriting, sewing, drawing, painting, and crafting with resin, and has kept journals from a very young age. Follow Lars on Instagram: https://instagram.com/grand_larzeny https://instagram.com/wolfshieldrecords --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/aprilklingmeyer/support

Sondra Primeaux is an artist, maker and writer and is cohost of the Unruffled Podcast. When she fell into recovery in 2014, she was grateful to have her creative work to fill the hole she was left with when alcohol was removed. In an effort to serve the recovery community, she started The Unfruffled, where she shares ideas and anecdotes to help others find their own mid-life solution. She lives in Austin, Texas with her husband and two children.  For more information about Sondra and her work, visit: www.theunruffled.com For more information about Austin Creative Reuse, visit: www.austincreativereuse.org --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/aprilklingmeyer/support

Les Weiler, creator of "The Unstuck Creative" and a dynamic and prolific multimedia artist, grew up in Paris, Texas, dreaming of becoming a Disney animator. He loved to draw and paint as a youth, even majoring in painting at University of Texas. During his graphic design career over 14 years, his passions led him into the studio from time to time, producing work for video games, websites, and making logos, while helping friends with their comic books and screenplays-- "anything but art that might reveal a real me." He eventually left a salaried job and tried freelancing, yet still finding an urge to express himself artistically-- and from the heart-- he then decided to get serious about the expression he feels most passionate about: writing. For the last three years he's found balance by splitting his time across his tech support job, his podcasts, his volunteer work, and his screenwriting. "Though I still have a lot of mountain to climb, I'm excited to have my life, and this feels like just the start." Les' work as "The Unstuck Creative" can be found here: https://theunstuckcreative.com/ --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/aprilklingmeyer/support

Layton Blaylock is an award-winning filmmaker, director, cinematographer, and producer who has worked across a wide spectrum of the film industry including feature films, network television, commercials, and documentaries. Blaylock has made two feature documentaries focusing on unique programs for helping the homeless. Layton's most recent documentary, Community First, A Home for the Homeless, had its world premiere at SXSW in 2019 and will be making its PBS broadcast debut in February 2021. Layton lives in Austin, TX and is a graduate of the University of Texas. More about Community First Village can be found here: https://mlf.org/community-first/ More about Art From the Streets can be found here: https://artfromthestreets.org/ ...and here is Layton's film about it, by the same name: https://www.artfromthestreets-themovie.com/ --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/aprilklingmeyer/support

Sarah Blunkosky, M.A., 200 E-RYT, RYT 500, RPYT, RCYT is an integrative education consultant, certified peer-breastfeeding counselor, and registered Accessible Yoga instructor specializing in family, children's, special-needs, and prenatal/postpartum movement/embodiment. Her learning life spanned teaching high school social studies at Open High School in Richmond, Virginia to studying slavery and social history on a graduate school path that pivoted when her eldest daughter's intellectual disabilities and medical needs required an intensive lifestyle shift. She started Learning Heroine LLC in 2015. You can find her on Instagram and Facebook sharing her dharma/mission: Set learning free. When she isn't homeschooling her kids or teaching yoga, you can find her writing articles and working on a book. A forever student of yoga, she is also studying to become a certified yoga therapist. For more information about Set Learning Free, visit setlearningfree.com.  --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/aprilklingmeyer/support

Jimmy Allen is Love and Relationship Coach. He studied with Katherine Woodard Thomas, author of the New York Times bestselling Calling in the One. Jimmy helps courageous & ambitious men overcome limitations with confidence, trust, & vulnerability, so they can create big love, own their worth & achieve their life's ultimate purpose. Book time with Jimmy: https://calendly.com/jimmyallencoaching/30min WEBSITE: https://www.jimmyallencoaching.com INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/jimmyallen/ --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/aprilklingmeyer/support