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This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.wethefifth.com* Val, Tombstone, Top Secret* Top Gun takes it to 11* One the best Hollywood memoirs * RIP Capucine* African-American Monday * Johnny Depp, musician * OK TIME TO TALK ABOUT THE COLLAPSING ECONOMY* Spartacus moment? Once they start flipping…* “They couldn't believe it. Ben Shapiro, of all people…”* A Norwegian. A Dane…and a guy who *isn't Finnish, Matt** On the best fight of …

NEW PODCAST - SHOW 83  BOB DYLAN - A COMPLETE UNKNOWN Movie Bio Pic Review HOSTS: Rob & Matt ********* On this show we talk about the new BOB DYLAN Bio Pic "A COMPLETE UNKNOWN". Some weeks ago we went to see the movie in the theater. We talk about: 1 - The making of 2 - The concept for the movie 3 - Fact vs. fiction  and also genuinely what we thought of the movie and our take on some of the scenes. Currently the movie is streaming on HULU and for rent on other platforms. If you're a music fan we highly recommend seeing this movie. ********* KNOW GOOD MUSIC can be found on Podbean (host site), Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Iheart Radio, Pandora, YouTube (link below) and almost anywhere you listen to podcasts. Links to more sources at Link Tree - www.linktr.ee/knowgoodmusic  Help support our Podcast by purchasing some cool merch: https://www.teepublic.com/user/knowgoodmusic Visit our YouTube Channel where you can see video segments from all of our interviews.  Just search "know good music" TURN OFF THE TV - TURN UP THE MUSIC!

Event marketers today face growing challenges—proving ROI, keeping attendees engaged after the event, and getting the most out of smaller booth spaces. In this  episode of Event Marketing: Redefined, Matt Kleinrock, CEO of Rockway Exhibits + Events is joined by Coty Adams, they talked about these challenges head-on and uncovers practical strategies that can help you overcome them and achieve real results.They discuss:✅ Why measuring ROI has become more complex—and how leading companies are simplifying it with hybrid events, content repurposing, and smart data use.✅ The true value of trade shows: It's not just about scanning badges or giving out swag, but building meaningful relationships that drive pipeline growth.✅ Real-world case studies showing how Rockway clients are making small booths deliver big results and stronger connections.✅ Key insights from BizBash's must-read list for event pros—perfect for anyone looking to elevate their skills, master hospitality, and create unforgettable, high-impact experiences.✅ Practical tips for designing impactful small booths: Learn how to create memorable interactions in limited spaces and make every square foot count.If you're looking for new ways to measure ROI, boost engagement, or maximize the potential of your event space, this episode is packed with valuable insights you can put into action.Connect with Matt:On his LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-kleinrock-9613b22b/On his Company: https://rockwayexhibits.com/

The trade show is over, but the real work has just begun. How you follow up with leads after an event can make or break your sales pipeline. In this solo episode, Matt Kleinrock, CEO of Rockway Exhibits + Events, shares one of the most critical (and often neglected) aspects of event marketing: the follow-up.Based on his experience and a recent post on LinkedIn, Matt outlines 9 actionable strategies to help you turn event leads into real business opportunities. Whether you're looking to build stronger connections, schedule post-show meetings, or create meaningful touchpoints that stand out, this episode will give you practical advice you can use right away.Here's what Matt will cover:✅ The right way to schedule meetings during the event for post-show success.✅ Qualifying leads: Why proper qualification is key and how to ensure your team is doing it right.✅ Tracking your interactions: How to ensure the data you gather leads to better follow-ups.✅ Personalizing your outreach: Simple tips to make your post-event messages resonate.✅ The power of fast follow-up: Why speed matters and how to get ahead of the competition.✅ Creative ways to engage leads, from offsite events to podcast invites.With these tools in your arsenal, you'll stop losing leads to bad follow-up practices and start turning your events into real, revenue-driving opportunities.Don't miss this episode, and learn how to make every event a long-term sales and marketing channel!Connect with Matt:On his LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-kleinrock-9613b22b/On his Company: https://rockwayexhibits.com/

***With apologies to Andrew Stoeten and our listeners - there was technical difficulties recording this episode leaving us with awesome audio quality from Stoeten and backup recorder quality audio from Matt***On today's show Matt Robinson is joined on the Tall Can Audio podcast by our pal Andrew Stoeten from TheBatFlip.ca.Tons of ground to cover today including why this Toronto Blue Jays team seems so not fun to watch despite a fairly impressive record, reasonable expectations for Vladimir Guerrero Jr, what the Jays will be looking for at the MLB Trade Deadline, whether Shohai Ohtani will be dealt by the Angels and so much more.Read all of Stoeten's work on The Bat Flip by visiting https://stoeten.substack.com/Subscribe to the Blue Jays Happy Hour podcast wherever you get your on demand audio.Follow TCA on bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/tallcanaudio.bsky.socialFollow TCA on Threads: https://www.threads.net/@tallcanaudioFollow TCA on Twitter: https://twitter.com/tallcanaudioFollow TCA on Instagram: https://instagram.com/tallcanaudio?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= Follow TCA on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/tallcanaudio

Welcome to the newest episode of The Cloud Pod podcast! Justin, Ryan, Jonathan, Matthew are your hosts this week as we discuss all things cloud and AI, as well as Amazon Detective, SageMaker, AWS Documentation, and Google Workstation.  Titles we almost went with (and there's a lot this week)

We went to ExhibitorLIVE - the trade show about the trade show industry- set up a our podcast at the Rockway Exhibits + Events booth and interviewed some of the top thought leaders in our industry. We'll be releasing all our conversations in a special series on the show.  This is  Matt Kleinrock, the CEO of Rockway Exhibits and Events, on day 1 talking about what he's looking forward to on the show, plus:- his vision for elevating the role of event marketers- addressing their challenges- providing solutions. Gain valuable insights into the future trends and shifts in the event marketing landscape. Don't miss these engaging conversations with the brightest minds in the trade show industry at Exhibitor Live 2023.Connect with Matt:On his LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-kleinrock-9613b22b/ On his Company: https://rockwayexhibits.com/

Sometimes, business moves so fast that it can feel like the worst thing you could do is pause. And sometimes, circumstances beyond your control force you to halt all business and reassess. While your first instinct may be to either push through doing what you've always done or close shop forever, those are rarely your only options. But how do you figure out what those other options are? Moreover, how do you know which one is the right one for the business, especially when there's limited information available?This week, I'll be speaking with Matt Kleinrock, CEO of Rockway Exhibits + Events, about pulling his business through the COVID pandemic to come out better than ever on the other side. Rockway Exhibits + Events is a wholly event-based company helping organizations design bold customer experiences for their next tradeshow. With halt to in-person events, they had to adapt and downsize to stay afloat. During this week's episode, we'll discuss: 

Outdoor events, pop up activations and experiential marketing campaigns are taking off

You may think that once you climb to the top of your organization, all your issues will go away…and that things will get easier…but that's not exactly the case.Matt Foxhall chased his lifelong dream to become a Regional CEO before he turned forty. Great news! He realized that dream a few years ahead of schedule with Fortune 250 company.But, in his case, it certainly didn't get easier. On his first day, one of his Vice Presidents walked into his office and quit. Within a few short days, he quickly realized his career dream was a toxic nightmare. Everywhere he turned, the business underperformed. There was  lack of systems, no vision, undisciplined hiring, and a total lack of accountability. This led his region to the absolute bottom of the company: 40th out of 40 regions. Dead last in performance.Over the next four years, Matt completely transformed the organization.  By focusing on quality hiring, culture, and strong values, his region skyrocketed from 40th to 20th to 10th to 4th. A truly meteoric rise.During the show, Matt will share: - The importance of vision and values in energizing your people- How disciplined hiring of “10s” transforms an organization- How deciding what game you're playing impacts the decisions you    makeIf you're looking to create a compelling company culture that outperforms, this is a can't miss episode with Matt Foxhall. Come prepared with your questions for this Masterclass on how to build an organization.Connect with Matt:On his LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewfoxhall/On his company: https://www.49financial.com/Don't miss out on all the good stuff that is coming your way!

If you're like me, you know Josepha Haden Chomposy is the Director for WordPress the open source project in title, but you probably don't know what she does on a day to day basis. Or that she's part of the Open Source Group Division inside of Automattic. Something I always knew, but once framed that way in discussion, was more interesting to hear. I was lucky enough to chat with Josepha for nearly an hour, so I'm breaking up the conversation in two parts. Today, part 1, we'll cover the logistics of her role, bringing WordCamps back, and the challenges with Gutenberg. Thanks to folks over at Malcare for supporting this episode of the Matt Report. If you want to support me, you can buy me a digital coffee or join the super-not-so-secret Discord group for $79/year at buymeacoffee.com/mattreport Episode transcription [00:00:00] Josepha: You say that's the easiest question, but like anyone who has spent any time with me knows that I also spend a lot of time, like, considering, like what, what, what are my, what am I doing? What, what purpose do I bring to the world? Who am I when I'm not trying to accomplish things? Like, yeah, it's easy, but it's not easy. [00:00:17] So yeah. I show stuff. I Hayden jumbo, C a WordPress projects, executive director since 2019. So I'm starting my what third year of it is that right? Yeah. Starting my third year of it, time flies.  [00:00:29] Matt: That's 30 years in COVID years, by the way.  [00:00:32] Josepha: ain't that true? Isn't that true? And before I did this, I actually was as my Twitter bio suggests very much into. [00:00:43] Digital literacy and making sure that that communities were safe and sound, because I think that communities are the foundation of everything that we try to do in the world. And so, yeah, that's me. [00:00:53] Matt: There's a lot of folks who think of community as well. It's a big marketing buzzword for sure. Right. Everyone who has a product company wants a community. But they are looking at community in probably a very lesser form definition in a silo and something to just kind of prop up either their brand or product. [00:01:12] Maybe get some feedback and get really interested. Customers. Community is a whole different ball game and scale at your level. Give us a sense of just like the daily routine. One has to go through to manage what you have to manage.  [00:01:29] Josepha: Gosh, from a community aspect or just from like me as a  [00:01:33] Matt: you wake up and you're and you look at your wall-to-wall meetings. Cause I, I imagine largely that's what you're doing is meeting talking to people, fusing ideas, together, shaking hands, dealing with folks, maybe crying and laughing and arguing. How do you do it?  [00:01:50] Josepha: I'll tell you, number one, that only about a quarter of my time, these. Is spent in meetings, which is really different from, from how it used to be. I used to spend about 60% of my time in meetings. And that was really hard just cause when you're in a meeting, you really have to stay present to, to really support the people that you're there with. [00:02:09] And, and also to really get that work done and be as fruitful as you can with it. And so about, about a quarter of my time now is in meetings. And actually like I've got, I've got a number of hats obviously, cause I'm the executive director of the WordPress project, but I also lead the source practice at automatic. [00:02:29] And so there's a lot going on there. And the best way that I have to manage it at the moment is to just kind of set focus intentions for my day. Like I used to have a day where I just worked on automatic things or when I just worked on community things. And like that's still documented out in the world, like the, the themes that I have for each day, so that like, if people had had to work with a deadline, they knew what. [00:02:55] Going to probably get to on various days so that they could time their information. To [00:03:00] me, it was super useful when I didn't have quite as big a job as I have now. But now I kind of have a day where I focus on meetings. I have a day where I focus on the strategy. I try to make sure that if I have any community things that I'm blocking, I try to get those accomplished, like before the big meetings, which generally is like Wednesdays and Thursdays. [00:03:19] So try to get and get everybody the information that they need to keep moving on time. But I actually start basically every day with about 30 minutes of mindfulness. Just no meetings, no slack open, no anything else. And just making sure that I understand what my goals are for the day, what my tasks tend to beat for the day. [00:03:41] And then I end every day with about 30 minutes of what I like to call my ta-da list instead of a to-do list, things that I got done and that I need to get done tomorrow. [00:03:51] Matt: Little positive affirmation to end the and the day you say that the open source practice is sort of a different approach. Maybe something that you wrangle are managed differently. Can you give us give the listener a sense of what that might be  [00:04:04] Josepha: At automatic or just generally do I approach open-source differently?  [00:04:07] Matt: You mentioned that you, that you either manage or work on the open source practice of WordPress is that something different than the, than the day-to-day role of the executive director?  [00:04:17] Josepha: Huh. Yes and no. So on the one hand I do, we technically are referred to as a division inside automatic. It's the open source group division. And I just, I don't know, saying division seems very clinical and. Very divisive, like splitting things into when maybe we, we need to do a bit less of that right now. [00:04:38] And so when I refer to it as open-source practice, it's a little bit, because I'm trying to make it clear that it's like an ongoing thing that we work on an ongoing thing that we do, but also to identify that it is that yeah, we do. We kind of approach it differently. So open source as a practice rather than open source as just a general methodology, I think has a wider application than just software or adjust your product. [00:05:04] I think that open source, many of those 19 lessons of open source that exists out there could be seen as just like core intentions for how to accomplish things. And when you move it away from just like, this is a core directive for how to build software and instead think of it as this open source methodology that you can use to coordinate an. [00:05:30] I think it makes a big difference to how you accomplish things in open-source projects. And so, yes, that's, I wouldn't say it's different from my work as the executive director, but I do know that people don't necessarily identify that work.  [00:05:44] Matt: Right. How big is that division?  [00:05:46] Josepha: that particular division is just over a hundred people at this point. [00:05:50] And then we also have we, the WordPress project also have the five for the future contributors who work with me and that's a little lighter [00:06:00] touch. They get about a ping or two a week from me just asking what I can help them work through. And just checking in with them generally. And there's probably like 20, 25, maybe 50, if we're generous outside of automatic that are doing that. [00:06:16] So yeah. [00:06:16] Matt: And do the core contributors that contribute to WordPress open source, open source wars, WordPress from automatic. Do they fall under that division or can folks be from any division in, at automatic to contribute?  [00:06:28] Josepha: Yeah. Most of them do a lineup in this division, but there are also because so many of automatics products are, are part of the WordPress ecosystem. There are also plenty of people that are just in automatic as a whole that are contributing to core. So, [00:06:43] Matt: And if I could just illustrate that from a non not automatic company, this could be something like a GoDaddy might have a open source division  [00:06:53] Josepha: Right. [00:06:54] Matt: and their objectives or mission would be to give back to open source. And they would say, Hey, let's give back a little bit to WordPress. Let's give a little bit to whatever Joomla or PHP or something else. [00:07:06] That's open source. You'd have this collective that, that their mission is to, Hey, we're part of this bigger company, the bigger company, isn't all about open source and we're missioned to go out and contribute to open source.  [00:07:18] Josepha: Exactly. Right. So blue host has a group like that. Goat GoDaddy does have a group like that. Google also Yoast all those, all those folks in there, others as well. I'm not, I'm not intentionally leaving other people out. It's just that there are probably like a hundred different companies and I will not be able to just rattle them all off that way,  [00:07:38] Matt: Eh speaking of GoDaddy, looking at con core contributors I don't have the pie chart in front of me. In fact, it wasn't even a pie chart, but there were lots of circles. with automatic representing the largest piece. If you were to give advice to other companies to, I don't know, spin up divisions, give more spin up open-source divisions, give back more to whether it be WordPress or another division. [00:08:00] Are there one or two, like key things. If I want to form an open-source division or to contribute more, what's the best step forward for an organization? To either measure it or approach it to rally people around it. Do you have like one or two things that you look to as a north star?  [00:08:20] Josepha: Yeah. So, firstly, if you're, if you are thinking about creating an open source team, who's either planning to give back to WordPress or just planning to give back to open source in general. There is actually a five for the future white paper that exists to just like essentially take to your, your corporate entity that says, like, this is what it means to give back to this product that has given to us. [00:08:45] And it's, I think on wordpress.org/five, I think there's a link to it right there. But if not, We'll get it done.  [00:08:53] Matt: sure.  [00:08:53] Josepha: And, and that in the end does direct you kind of, to me to make sure that you have all of the information about [00:09:00] the open source philosophies that we're working with in the WordPress project. [00:09:03] And also make sure that that, that we all kind of understand what the goals of the WordPress project are at the moment. And so there is kind of just like a kickoff call with me to see if everyone agrees, it's like any, any relationship that you're entering into, everyone should understand what we're working with first and then make that choice together. [00:09:20] So that's one thing that anyone can take a look at also if. As an employer or just as yourself, want to contribute from like a five for the future pledging perspective, but don't necessarily have the time or resources to commit like a whole team's worth. There is actually a contributor training series that you can go through that gives you the basics of like how WordPress does open source, how open source functions in software, and also covers things like how we make decisions in WordPress, all of that stuff. [00:09:54] I believe that's on wordpress.org/contributor, hyphen training or something like that. We can find the link for your show notes, but yeah, those are both excellent ways to just like take stock of what that kind of contribution tends to look like. And see if it's a good fit. [00:10:11] Matt: I I'd imagine that part of your role or part of your efforts are to knock on the doors of, of big businesses that might be leveraging WordPress and saying, Hey, I think you can donate another person or two or 20 to the cause. Do what, what, what is that like? Are those efforts fruitful for you or are there certain strategies you try to put in place before you knock on the door of, I don't know. [00:10:35] I use GoDaddy just because it's the top of mind Right. now, but I'll go daddy or Bluehost or whomever [00:10:39] Josepha: Right. Yes.  [00:10:40] Matt: government.  [00:10:42] Josepha: the government,  [00:10:43] Matt: Right.  [00:10:43] Josepha: I have never knocked on the door of the government to ask them to contribute  [00:10:46] Matt: me know when you find that door, which door is it? I don't know. Neo find another one. [00:10:51] Josepha: find another door. Yeah, no. So, yes, there is general. I don't, I call it fundraising just because I understand that like, there are. Four-ish different economies in the WordPress ecosystem and not all of them are about money. A lot of them are about time and, and other things. But so yeah, I do that outreach every year for the most part. [00:11:14] And actually met does that as well. So Matt often we'll start with like the highest decision-making levels. Cause you, you do kind of have to get some buy-in on that. Not, not this Matt, dear readers other Matt, Matt Mullenweg what was I saying? Yeah, he frequently will start at like the CEO levels of having those conversations and then they move to me to kind of have a better understanding of what it looks like, what it could look like, what we want it to look like, all of that stuff. [00:11:42] As far as like, do we, do we, do I do anything to like prepare companies for that? Not really. The fight for the future program has been an excellent experiment and has been growing for years. And, and I don't know that I have ever [00:12:00] felt the need to like prime prime, anyone for the ask of like, do you have anyone who can help us with these security patches? [00:12:09] Do you have anyone who can help us with these design issues that we have? Like, I've never felt the need to do it necessarily. But that doesn't mean it's not happening. As I mentioned, like Matt does that also, he does that outreach as well. And so if there's priming for that call from that, that outreach from me, it's probably happening there. [00:12:27] Matt: Forgive my not understanding fully of how the inner workings of automatic works, but from executive directors that I've worked with in my local community, a lot of them are for nonprofits and a lot of them are, are raising money and that's a whole large part of their job. [00:12:44] Do you do that at all for any degree of the work for the WordPress foundation or is that completely separate? Not even in your purview.  [00:12:52] Josepha: I used to do that. Yeah. is not in my purview anymore. We actually have some community folks that really have done excellent work to keep that program moving all of this, the global sponsorship programs. They do that work these days. I did use to, but, but not now.  [00:13:09] Matt: Okay. Fantastic. And speaking of the, of the foundation word camps coming back. Question, mark. We just had word camp us last year. And now I think Birmingham is next. If I, if I have that correct. Is there other others coming? Is that something that you're looking forward to proceeding cautiously with? [00:13:32] Again, I know there was something on the Tavern about no or little to no masks at the last camp. A lot of folks worried about it. What's your prediction or what's your outlook on local meetups or local camps? Sorry,  [00:13:45] Josepha: So word camp, U S actually was, was a virtual this year where it can't one state of the word  [00:13:50] Matt: state of the word, sorry. Yep. It felt like a word camp because everyone Was. celebrating it.  [00:13:55] Josepha: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it was it was an excellent experiment and it actually was not our first in-person event. There was a word camp in severe. I want to say that that weekend right before state of the word, that was our first one back. [00:14:09] And then yes, we've got Birmingham on the calendar. We have WordCamp Europe on the calendar as an in-person event. And we have word camp us 20, 22 on the calendar as, as an in-person event. Cautiously with cautious optimism. Is that a thing I can say? We're proceeding forward with cautious optimism about it. [00:14:27] Matt: in San Diego was cautious. Optimism.  [00:14:31] Josepha: Excellent. I'll let them know. Yeah, like. I have been, I've been talking to people about this a lot this week. So much of the information that we get from, from everyday users of WordPress, about what they love and what they don't love, what they need and what they want with the software comes from those events and not having them has certainly been very difficult for the community as a whole, to, to keep on [00:15:00] top of their own resilience. [00:15:01] But, but the community of contributors, as it relates to the support of the community of users, like it really, it's very clear to me that all of our contributors feel a little bit, I don't want to say hamstrung, but like they don't have the same touch points that they used to have to make the decisions that we all have to make. [00:15:22] And so. That's the optimistic side. Like I'm optimistic that we can get back to in-person events so that we can have that, that high value information from our users of the CMS more and, and faster and better. And the cautious side is of course, that everything is changing with this from week to week. [00:15:42] At this point, like for a while, it was month to month, things were changing and now it's week to week, things are changing and, and I never want to put people at undue risk and so am prepared to make the best call that we can make in the moment. And as things move as quickly as they are. It has made it more difficult when things were just kind of progressing on a month to month scale, you had time to, to cancel things or to move them or, or whatever you had to do. [00:16:15] But in the case of Omicron that moved so quickly that, that there was a little bit of blind sightedness happening on it. So  [00:16:24] Matt: is  [00:16:24] Josepha: I don't know if I've answered your question. [00:16:26] Matt: no that you have, or you've let us to at least maybe the next question. or the maybe just helping me define a better question. Is is there more stress on the local volunteers to raise more? Because one, there might not be enough ticket sales for enough people to maybe businesses have retracted from sponsoring camps in three. [00:16:50] I think that there's less money at hand, right? To, to Dole out to word camps in the fund, for lack of a better phrase.  [00:16:57] Josepha: in the fund. Yeah. So, That's such a complicated question. We, the, so the, the WordPress community support entity has been providing still a good portion of, of the infrastructure that people need in order to organize a WordPress event. And as far as like getting fiscal sponsorship, getting financial sponsorship from local entities, I am sure that it is more stressful, but I don't know that, that we, as like the stewards of this community have said, like, you have to find more local sponsorship because we cannot commit to as much global sponsorship. [00:17:40] I don't, I don't recall that happening with any of the events that we've seen lately.  [00:17:46] Matt: got it. Got it. Let's let's shift gears back to to WordPress to Gutenberg we think back well, we have WordPress 5.9 in 19 ish, 19 [00:18:00] ish days. Right?  [00:18:00] Josepha: no one be scared. That's great. [00:18:02] Matt: Thinking back three and a half years ago, whenever Gutenberg was announced, there was mass chaos, massive stereo. My God, we've got this Gutenberg thing. [00:18:10] What is it? Don't want it everyone up in arms about it. I, for one while maybe I didn't enjoy the way it rolled out and the way it was communicated as a non-developer. Yeah. [00:18:22] And when people started using it, I was like, this is, this is, this is just software. It's going to get better. I think here we are three and a half years later, it's a much different product. [00:18:32] It's much more refined from obviously when it started. Cause it's been three and a half years. Although  [00:18:37] Josepha: you've been working on it in the background. [00:18:39] Matt: Yeah. if you were, if you were, if you were in the early beta access, you were, you were playing with it. If you knew how to download it from GitHub [00:18:46] Josepha: Those fancy people.  [00:18:48] Matt: Those fancy people. [00:18:49] I don't even know above my pay grade. [00:18:50] Although I still struggled to drag some blocks in between columns. Sometimes that's a little bit frustrating, but do you think the the time that you think it'll take the same amount of time basically is what I'm getting at for full site editing to mature and to be adopted? Or do you think this is going to be fast paced because now we've kind of experienced Gutenberg.  [00:19:08] Josepha: My short answer is I do not think it's going to take as long and I'm going to give you a long answer now. So on the one hand, I think it's true that people are now a bit more bought in. Like our users are quite a bit more bought in on on this. Change than they were in 5.0, there's, there's a reason for them to trust that it's the right direction. [00:19:29] We have consistently been showing that ever since 5.0, came out and so like, yeah, I think that on the one hand, there's a lot more willingness in public sentiment and public grace that we have at the moment. And so from that aspect, I think that that we're in a much better position than we were when we were merging things in 5.0, but also between 5.0. [00:19:50] And now we have actually heard and by we I'll just be super clear. I have heard so much that it's not necessarily the change that upset people. It was how we made the change. And I totally understand that people felt left out. They felt like it was forging ahead without them, like, there was no way they could keep up with it. [00:20:10] And I, and I understand that it like it's the Gutenberg project was and is moving along a lot faster. Then WordPress core moves along from the, from the standpoint of like how frequently they have releases. So releases every two weeks is very different from releases every four months. And so having heard from so many people in so many different areas of the project, that, that it was the way that we did it. [00:20:37] That was so upsetting. Between 5.0, and now we actually have done together a lot of work to change the way that we talk about it. And so there are a lot more consistent updates from the folks who are working consistently within the core Gutenberg spaces of things, including stuff like our performance metrics that we are [00:21:00] gauging all of the features that we're planning, the features that did get in there. [00:21:03] And the last two weeks, like we're just communicating more in that space, but also we have really re-invigorated the testing area and the triage practice, both of those practices across the WordPress EcoSys. And created a number of different places for anyone to get this kind of information and sponsored a number of different spaces, where users and developers and agency owners and, and decision makers, technical, or not have been able to get better information about what they need to know about the software. [00:21:37] And so when was 5.0 at the end of 2018? Yeah. So. Yeah. Since 2018, I would say that there are probably four or five really big projects that have helped us to move past that whole, like it's the way you did it. Like we figured out the ways that we did it, that made people mad and we've made changes to fix them. [00:21:59] They're four or five large scale things that you can see, but also a lot of just small individual things that each team or any contributor does to make that whole process a little less scary, a little more tidy, little easier to see everything that we're doing on learn right now with trying to get more and more workshops and courses and lessons out for people like, yeah, we've done a lot of work based on the feedback that I got. [00:22:24] I did a six month listening tour after 5.0, to hear how mad  [00:22:29] Matt: That was. said with a big site.  [00:22:31] Josepha: Yeah, it was, it was hard. I it's like a listening tour is hard anyway, but I spent six months going to the events with people who were the maddest at WordPress and at me and at Matt and, and did nothing, but like tell me how much you hate this. [00:22:50] And that's all I wanted to hear it. I didn't have reasons or explanations or excuses for anything like their feelings of anger were because they felt like we hadn't heard them. And so I was showing up to hear them and, and in that six months time, that is when I identified, these are the things we need to fix in the future. [00:23:10] And we have spent years fixing them and I'm very proud of that work, so.  [00:23:13] Matt: It's a perfect segue to a couple other questions. Let's get the pitchforks and the torches out folks. No, I'm just kidding. Surprise. You're on a game show. Have you seen running, man? No, I'm just kidding.  [00:23:20] Josepha: No. [00:23:21] Matt: On the listening tour I'm sure you heard things like, Oh, what we're doing here is we're just competing against Squarespace and Wix. [00:23:28] Why do we want to, this is, I'm sure you've heard that. Right. We're Prestos wants to compete against Squarespace and Wix. My response is duh  [00:23:36] Josepha: of  [00:23:36] Matt: duh. Yes, I do. Like, I want to compete against Squarespace and Wix so that we can, because I want WordPress to survive. Do you think that did one, did you hear that sentiment two, do. [00:23:48] you think that's kind of going away and feeling like, Yeah. [00:23:50] actually we do want to compete against them to, to win.  [00:23:53] Josepha: I definitely heard it a lot and I hear it a lot even now. There are, there are two sides to that [00:24:00] conversation. Cause sometimes people are like, you're competing against these things that are so tiny, why bother. And sometimes it's, you're competing against something that is not the group of, that's not catering to the group of people that WordPress wants to cater to. [00:24:14] And so like, there are two different takes on that particular argument and I see both sides of it. But also like, technology always, you have to stay relevant and you have to move fast enough to be if, if not a competitor to a tiny thing that exists now. Cause like, sure, it's not a threat if it's 1% of usage across the web. [00:24:36] But, but there is something to be said for self disruption in that way, like I like this is my favorite example to use. So like when the iPad came out and there were just. Tablets everywhere. And the iPad mini came out and everyone was like, there's no point in having an iPad mini, we do not know why apple is doing this. [00:24:56] This is the most useless thing. Like people were like, why are you even bothering? No one wants this one. Plenty of people wanted it. And to taking the opportunity to, to, to disrupt what's happening in your own ecosystem before other people can show up and, and do that disruption to you, like that's smart. [00:25:18] That's a good idea. And so I do know that Gutenberg has been a really disruptive change and that for a lot of people, it also has been a breaking change. Even if it's not like breaking websites or breaking the code or breaking your dashboard, a broken workflow is still a breaking change for you. [00:25:35] And like, that is why Gutenberg is, is as a project being done over so many years. Right. If, if you feel like asking me about, about the reason that that was the right call, I would tell you, but most people don't care. But yeah, like moving fast enough to stay relevant, slow enough to bring people with you where you can is so smart and not only for the project, but for the people who rely on the project to have better lives. [00:26:05] So, [00:26:06] Matt: True or false. This is this is not about open source WordPress, but this is about automatic. And I would say that about true or false, the challenge true or false in your opinion  [00:26:14] Josepha: We're building some caveats in here. I like it. [00:26:17] Matt: I don't wanna, I don't wanna like put you too much on the spot, but you have walls. Your opinion. [00:26:22] The challenge for automatic is on innovation and pushing the software forward and fricking everything. Woo commerce, Gutenberg, wordpress.org, jet pack. The challenges still not enough people I'd imagine to, to help produce push code to, to improve everything across the board.  [00:26:42] Josepha: you threw so many pieces in there that I cannot give a true false cause that's probably true for some and less true for others would be my guests right now.  [00:26:50] Matt: let's talk about, let's say Gutenberg true or false, not enough people to, to really refine the whole thing. Fast enough,  [00:26:59] Josepha: I don't know if you [00:27:00] can hear my stomach growling. Cause like my microphone is right down by my stomach. I apologize if you can, like, I don't have a monster in the room. It's  [00:27:06] Matt: your, your stomach. cannot answer the question.  [00:27:10] Josepha: It tried real hard. It had so many things to say. Yeah. So for gluten, so you're asking true false for gluten. Is the limiting factor that we don't have enough people. [00:27:18] Matt: Let me frame some context around it. When I interviewed Matt when I interviewed Matt back in January, 2021 [00:27:24] There's just, there's so much on the plate for automatic in terms of.com jet pack, VU, commerce, which is just a sleeping sleeping giant we don't have anything close to a WooCommerce Shopify yet. And I look at automatic and I say the biggest problem for Matt right now is just, there's just not, he can't hire fast enough to, to iterate and develop these products. There's just. It's just impossible for somebody to hire this many folks and get them up to speed to push these products. [00:27:53] I feel the same for Gutenberg. And I guess the open source answer is yeah. [00:27:58] more, maybe more people should step up or more brands and organizations that have the money hosting companies should step up to to contribute to this right. To refine the product. Like I wanna be able to drag my block in between three columns without me losing my mind.  [00:28:14] Josepha: Oh man, I have a very complicated false for you. I know. So, okay. So there are a lot of people contributing to Gutenberg and, and while we can always use more people contributing that we can not contest there is actually a different limiting factor. That's not necessarily about developers. And so. [00:28:37] I'll just get real clear. So I don't, I don't know that other people agree with me about this and, and that's their prerogative. But as someone who is looking across our entire ecosystem across our entire project from a substance, a pretty high level, with a huge number of, of data points that are coming to me from, from the community, I can say with pretty high confidence that some of the more pressing limiting factors are things like we don't have enough. [00:29:11] Essentially mid-level deciders who can say confidently, these are the black and white questions that have already been answered. This is the answer and move everybody forward. Like we have a lot of bottlenecks that are still built into that, into that product. There is also an incredibly limiting factor of our user outreach, like are unactivated community members, as I like to call them in my notes to myself are the, the community members that represent our community of users. [00:29:42] So people who don't necessarily know that the project exists, they don't necessarily know that they can like provide feedback about what is working. What's not working, what's broken. What is what could be made better? Like the lack of feedback from them. Frequently is something that is more of a [00:30:00] limiting factor than not having enough developers. [00:30:02] Now, if the entire WordPress user base showed up and was like, here's all of our feedback, like for sure, we would suddenly discover that we don't have enough developers to get those things done can confirm.  [00:30:13] Matt: Yeah.  [00:30:13] Josepha: But, but yeah, I think that our more pressing issue is around the people who can help us, like confidently say, this is the most likely decision based on what we know from Mathias, who is our primary kind of Gutenberg architect or Riyadh or whoever it is. [00:30:31] We just have such a small group of people who can do that. And that's true to an extent in the WordPress project as well. There are various things that we could blame that on COVID is a great example of a thing that might cause people to be less. Less engaged in that level of, of contribution. [00:30:52] But yeah, I think that in the hierarchy of things where I would say, yes, we definitely have a dearth of those. Those two would come up prior to developers on the open-source side.  ★ Support this podcast ★

Episode 56 featuring Matt On influential Black radical figures, the importance of reading, and starting a reading club/mutual aid organization. Find more of Matt here and more of his org mutualaid4thehomies here, Check out Matt's writing here, "Looking Back at the Young Lords Occupation of Lincoln Hospital 51 Years Later."

Here we go again back in lockdown watched everything on TV need something new come and join John ,Steve and Matt On the deck this week just for a chat can't wait to have you join us.

Matt Bowles has been a full-time digital nomad with no permanent base since 2013 and has run his company (Maverick Investor Group) from 65 different countries on 6 continents in the last 8 years. He is also the host of The Maverick Show podcast where he interviews today's most interesting location-independent entrepreneurs and world travelers. Matt co-founded Maverick Investor Group in 2007 as a fully-remote company to help people buy cash-flowing rental properties in the best U.S. real estate markets, regardless of where they live. He has been featured in major national media and was named one of the “Top 50 Real Estate Opinion Makers and Market Leaders”. Matt and his co-founders at Maverick have helped individual real estate investors buy residential investment property across 15 U.S. States. This was a super inspiring interview, Matt shared a lot of stories about his previous travel experiences. Click that play button now!Links we mentioned:Free real estate reportFree phone consultation about buying turnkey rental properties in the best U.S. markets from anywhereRemote yearNomad cruiseConnect with Matt:On instagram @mattbowlesmaverickListen to The Maverick ShowConnect with Anne:On instagram @adventurous.anneLearn more about my business: The Podcast Babes

Today we have Zach and Matt On the show! We are discussing the state of mental health from social work and psychiatric Nurse perspective. Don't forget we breakdown single hood and dating. Belt your Seat this one will knock off your socks. Get ready to be inspired. These are some dope guys. IG: matthiaskiwanuka IG: zachaliath ___________________________________________________________________________ Join us as we continue to learn more about dating, relationships, debunking cultural myths, self worth, and mental health. Time to Play No Games with your Favorite Therapist and Boy Wonder CAS Follow us on our IG page : https://www.instagram.com/lookherematching.fri/ Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/play-no-games/id1532296328 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5P0jSBqceT1qAt9gyyjaMB?si=X2DhWiPqQLq3TbnORAQt1Q

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Are you needing assistance with your social media content for your racing? Do you limited time or not know what to post? We can help you by doing it all for you! Race to win@motiv8training.com.au to find out more! Join our Motorsport Sponsorship Group – bit.ly/Motiv8Sp Motorsport Coaching Podcast is brought to you by MotiV8 Training & Management. For more information about their services race to motiv8training.com.au In episode #74 you'll learn: How to start and grow your Youtube account How to engage your sponsors within your social media content How to be authentic and showcase YOU! To follow Matt: On all channels – Haugen Racing Youtube / Facebook / Instagram ▶ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/haugenracing ▶ Website: https://www.haugenracing.com

Are you needing assistance with your social media content for your racing? Do you limited time or not know what to post? We can help you by doing it all for you! Race to win@motiv8training.com.au to find out more!   Join our Motorsport Sponsorship Group – bit.ly/Motiv8Sp   Motorsport Coaching Podcast is brought to you by MotiV8 Training & Management. For more information about their services race to motiv8training.com.au     In episode #74 you’ll learn: How to start and grow your Youtube account How to engage your sponsors within your social media content How to be authentic and showcase YOU!   To follow Matt: On all channels – Haugen Racing Youtube / Facebook / Instagram     ▶ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/haugenracing ▶ Website: https://www.haugenracing.com

We're Live in Studio talking Crossbows, Vertical Bows, and more with Marc our Store Manager/Hunting and Archery Expert. We also get a remote product demo from Matt On the Ravin R26 Mission Sub One XR-Pro! Intro: “The Combine (Triune & E.Q) prod by Joey French” Stay tuned for more TRS Live episodes Live on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/TheReelShot/ and over at http://www.trsoutdoors.com! TRS Live is an outdoor talk show broadcast live on Facebook and on our website trsoutdoors.com, with shows airing every week live on Facebook and trsoutdoors.com! Shop TRS: https://www.thereelshot.com/ Visit our site: http://outdoors.thereelshot.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelShot/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/trsoutdoors/

On this episode, Matt On this week’s podcast, Matt and Tal talk about the next step in their Five Factors Success Path. Healthy leaders find people they can trust to help them process their secrets and wrongdoings. Pastors and Preachers Resources Download a copy of our Feedback Loop Check out our Pipeline Class and learn 5 secrets of leadership development for churches. Continue the conversation on Facebook and Instagram

This week, Tiny and I review the Hulu and Netflix documentaries FYRE and Fyre Fraud. But first, we discuss the news regarding the latest Bryan Singer allegations. Later, in Potpourri, we talk about the documentary series QB1, RBG movie On the Basis of Sex, and briefly touch on Tiny's rewatch of The Shield. This week's stinger comes from our Patreon-exclusive recording: 016 - OV B-Roll - “Should Past Top Ten Lists Be Revised?” - Tiny's Trailering, Work Shopping OV Projects, Bumblebee, The Mummy, and Universal Monsters - Jan 23, 2019 Timestamps Show Start – 00:32 News - 03:51  Fyre Festival Documentaries - 18:29 FYRE (Netflix) - 19:42 Fyre Fraud (Hulu) - 1:00:12  Potpourri - 1:25:03 Tiny: QB1: Beyond the Lights - 1:25:23 Matt: On the Basis of Sex - 1:33:20 Tiny: The Shield - 1:42:19  Closing the Ep - 1:44:12 Stinger: Tiny's Trailering - 1:46:07 Pre-Recorded Outro - 1:47:04 You're Gonna Love This…Or Not Promo - 1:49:55  Related Links 'Nobody Is Going to Believe You' (Bryan Singer's alleged victims tell their stories) - The Atlantic Bryan Singer Responds To Atlantic Report: “Homophobic Smear Piece Timed To Take Advantage Of ‘Bohemian Rhapsody' Success” - Deadline Comparing Fyre Fest Docs: Netflix's 'FYRE' Vs. Hulu's 'Fyre Fraud' - Pajiba Ja Rule Responds To Fyre Fest Docs, Plus How You Can Help - Pajiba Geeking in Indiana's Family of Podcasts   Help Support the Podcast Our Facebook: The Obsessive Viewer Official OV Merch: Our TeePublic Store Matt's Twitter: @ObsessiveViewer  Matt's Letterboxd: ObsessiveViewer Tiny's Twitter: @ObsessiveTiny  Tiny's Letterboxd: ObsessiveTiny Mike's Twitter: @IAmMikeWhite Mike's Letterboxd: IAmMikeWhite Fekkes' Instagram: Nerdster330 Kyrsten's Twitter: @Burger_Lurker Mike's Band: As Good As It Gets  Obsessive Viewer - The homepage for all the things we do. Shocktober in Irvington - Our yearly event screening of short horror films from Indianapolis filmmakers to support the Irvington Historical Society Obsessive Viewer Presents: Anthology - Matt's solo podcast exploring science fiction anthology storytelling in television's first golden age starting with The Twilight Zone. iTunes - Google Play - Stitcher - Twitter Obsessive Viewer Presents: Tower Junkies - Our spinoff podcast dedicated to Stephen King's magnum opus, The Dark Tower and related topics. iTunes - Google Play - Stitcher - Twitter Loudlike “Mistakes We Must Make” EP on iTunes - Our theme song is “An Eclipse of Events.” Grab Loudlike's EP and hear the full version of our theme.  Episode Homepage: http://www.obsessiveviewer.com/OV270

The boys are back with special guest Matt "On 'em" Robertson to talk about his Team Championship Classic Qualification. They also welcome in Elite Series Rookie Quentin Cappo to talk about his upcoming Rookie Season. The boys talk MLF/BASS & FLW News, More PETA Stuff, Weird Pirate crap and more! 

Thirty city blocks, 12,000 potential jobs, and a blank, urban canvas long for a community revival. Thanks to Ambrose Property Group, lead by President Aasif Bade, that urban resurgence is on its way. The projected $1.4 billion development received its name Friday - Waterside; creating an opportunity for another district to make its mark on this great city. On this episode, we sat down with Bade who spoke about how any commercial real estate company can create success within their own community. ---- Do you have a question? Looking to get help on a business decision? Know a great guest for our show? Email roipod@iupui.edu so we can help your organization make better business decisions. ---- Ready to take your next step? Check out if a Kelley MBA is right for you: https://bit.ly/35aeAfZ ---- Show Notes: MATT: A city skyline cannot exist without a property to build on, a design to construct, or a vision to bring to life. Here in Indy, 30 city blocks of blank canvas space exists on the city's southwest side, ready to welcome a development that will last for generations to come – adding another dimension to Indy's skyline. So how can a commercial real estate company most effectively create success? Ambrose Property Group shows us how - Let's get to the podcast… ||ROI MUSIC PLAYS|| MATT: Welcome to another episode of the ROI Podcast presented by the Indiana University Kelley School of Business, I'm your host Matt Martella alongside Associate Dean Phil Powell. If this is your first time tuning in to the ROI Podcast, we are glad to have you. We put out a weekly episode that helps organizations make better business decisions. For those of you who enjoy our show, it would be such an honor to us if you could head to your favorite podcasting app and leave us a review. And finally, if you would like to get a hold of us, send us an email to ROI-pod, that's roipod@iupui.edu. Last year, the Indy Start released an article that names Indianapolis the 2nd most resurgent city in the country – and that was according to realtor.com. The average home price in Indianapolis is just under $310,000. That's a 20% increase since 2012. The city has also seen a 10% increase in population.   PHIL: And according to our own Kelley Faculty and Economists, Kyle Anderson, he stated in his economic forecast that the Indianapolis-Carmel-Anderson economy added almost 25,000 jobs – a 2.3% increase since 2016 with signs of strong growth. According to Kyle, the blend of the low cost of living and the growing number of startups are the major factors why this urban resurgence is number 2 in the country. So as we work to acquire more corporations within our downtown environment, it's up to the commercial real estate industry to get ahead of this growth because it's those office spaces and apartment complexes that will support the ever increasing demand. MATT: On this episode, we sat down with the President of Ambrose Property Group, Aasif Bade – a Kelley Business School grad and commercial real estate expert who manages an impressive property portfolio that includes the old GM stamping plant on the city's west side. Aasif shares the three keys for his real estate success. Aasif Bade: We literally started the business in the height of the recession. We were able to capture some great opportunities in the real estate market at literally the bottom - this building we're sitting in today was purchased in 2011, it's right on the circle in downtown Indianapolis. What differentiates Ambrose from the beginning is the cultural mindset to, number one, focus on our customers, employees, and everyone that's involved with our business, and have a one-to-one people-focused mindset. Number two, we're always conscious of the environment: we operate from a community aspect. Number three, we remember what's happened. Some of the basic economic lessons we learned in the Kelley School of Business [are] not to get ahead of ourselves and remain cautious… every day, every decision we make, we recognize there's ups and downs in the economy, and while we've been successful doing business deals during the downturn, we recognize that it will probably happen all over again in the near future. PHIL:  (Aasif's accomplishments, his presence in Indianapolis, any other thoughts) MATT: As commercial real estate leaders, or those looking to get into commercial real estate, the first key to success is, it's all about timing. Aasif Bade: We've probably made these mistakes too, the two are buying/selling too early and buying/selling too late. I know that sounds like a simple answer to your complicated question, but ultimately, real estate is all about timing. There's a lot of factors that impact everything, but we've benefited from incredible timing that I by no means had control over. While our firm had a hunch, we didn't know, we just happened to get into the business at the  right time, and I don't know if I would recommend to my 26-year-old self to do it all over again or not, it's worked out okay, but it's all about timing. PHIL: And it's the timing that allowed Ambrose Property Group to purchase the old GM stamping plant. History of the plant Employed 6,500 people during its peak 120 acres of land – or 30 city blocks What it means to the city The GM plant carries deep history with the city of Indianapolis MATT: The second key for commercial real estate leaders to success is to respect the city and the history of your property. Aasif Bade: Indianapolis has had a great run over the last fifty years. Our city has been a model around the country for public, private, philanthropic partnerships, everyone here works very well together. We've had great mayors and governors of both parties, great leaders in the public sector and the philanthropic world all work together, and I think we have a reputation around the country for that. People like to do business here and come here to be in this community. With respect to the GM stamping plant. We try to recognize and appreciate the history of that site. It has been primarily a manufacturing employment center for well over 100 years. That speaks to us because we think about the families and generations of people that have worked on that site - they earned a living and literally there's been generation after generation that's done that. A lot of the neighbors in that neighborhood and adjacent ones [have had] families have worked on that site, and [perhaps going as far back as] great-grandparents who did the same. I learned an acronym a very long time ago from one of my mentors, and I probably use it daily: STEP - See The People/See The Properties. I especially use that one when we are over-analyzing some type of project - there's a lot of times where I say we should just go for a walk to the GM plant. After going through 20 pages of design documents, I'd rather just go touch it, see it, and feel it. We're in real estate, it's a visual business. I heard a saying this morning that downtown is a state of mind, and in a lot of ways, we're in the people business and place business. A lot of that is state of mind and much more subjective than objective. I think seeing the people and properties are important - sometimes drawings on paper or in conference rooms get you so far. I encourage myself and others to get out of the office and explore that state of mind. PHIL: Aasif's projected project cost: $1.3 Billion Plans to invest $550-million into site over next 15 years Plan includes some 2.7 million square-feet of residential, office, commercial, hotel and retail assets He estimates 12,000 permanent job creations when fully developed See the People/See the Properties – give your reaction Why it's important for city Why it's important for people How it can affect your image as a property owner if done wrong MATT: Once we understand that it's all about timing, educate ourselves about our property so we can embrace a deep respect for our property's history within the city, the third key for commercial real estate success is to involve the community throughout the development process. Aasif Bade: Our goal is to engage with the community, neighbors, other organizations, the public at large, and public enterprises. We feel a huge weight of responsibility on what will happen there, and we also recognize that just like in the past 100 years, we know may not be around for the next 100 years, and we're just trying to handle it properly for the years that we're directly responsible for it. As you may be able to tell, the GM stamping plant is an enormous project and it's really important. A lot of focus is usually placed on the numbers, the dollars, how big it is, how long the project will last, how many square feet it'll be...the moment for me that crystallizes it and gets me sentimental is number one, having been born and raised in Indianapolis, it's a big point of pride to me to be able to be the owner and developer of that, shaping 30-35 city blocks of downtown Indianapolis… having conversations with folks today who live within eyesight of that property who inherited their home from their parents and also whose family worked at the GM stamping plant. They wanted us to develop it and they encouraged us to continue the pursuit even after 8 years of going after it and not getting it multiple times. They wanted to engage with us and they gave us recommendations of what they thought should go there. That engagement with real people who don't own any part of the development, yet have so much more ownership over it from a state of mind perspective than I ever will, having that relationship and encouragement is what gets me excited as opposed to the physical assets. It goes back to passion. I like to talk to people, to see things develop, have relationships, and have an impact with the community at large. That relationship with those folks, having hired someone on purpose on my staff in this office whose sole job is to engage with the community, report back to the team, and always be in touch with the community, we think that's how the community will continue to get better and how it's gotten to the point it has because of so many people that came before us doing the same thing over the number of decades. PHIL: Comment on “these people don't own any part of property, yet have so much more ownership from a state of mind perspective.” It's importance to tie the community together Why owners should not ignore the people who have more “state of mind ownership” then they do However, also understand everyone cannot be made happy – yet we can be respectful MATT: So let's recap… Ambrose Property Group, led by Aasif Bade, not only started a successful commercial real estate enterprise in the midst of a terrible recession, but also acquired a major piece of Indianapolis history through their recent purchase of the old GM Stamping plant on the city's southwest side. Through Aasif's real estate journey, he gave us three keys for his company's success that us as leaders can embrace to better our organizations. The first key, it's all about timing. Not only was the timing in his favor when he founded Ambrose Property Group, it was also timing that allowed his company to seal the deal with the old GM plant. It may have taken over eight years and multiple offers, but the timing in which he made them paid off. The second key is to understand the history of your property and embrace a deep respect for the people who have more of a “state of mind” ownership of your land. For Aasif, his property gave generations of families the jobs necessary for their success. As he works with developers, he constantly reminds himself, “see the people/see the city,” of that history to better shape the Indianapolis skyline. Finally, the third key is to involve the community inside developmental planning. It's impossible to make everyone happy, however it's the people who will work on your sites, live on your sites, and even travel for leisure to your sites. Allowing the community to have input on your development gives them a major share in feeling like they own that property, which in turn gives them a sense of pride that will one day etch your company's building inside the minds of families for generations to come. This has been another episode of the ROI Podcast presented by the Indiana University Kelley School of Business. I'm your host Matt Martella, alongside Associate Dean Phil Powell – where we work hard to bring you a weekly podcast that helps organizations make better business decisions. We'll see you next week.

OV174 - Independence Day: Resurgence - The Lobster, Central Intelligence, and Matt turns 30 (Guest: Robert Fekkes) This week Matt welcomes friend and frequent guest Fekkes to the podcast to fill in for Tiny, who had to work late. In the episode, Matt and Fekkes discuss Roland Emmerich's latest movie, Independence Day: Resurgence. For Potpourri, they share their thoughts on The Lobster, Central Intelligence, and Matt reflects on turning 30 with a viewing of Jurassic Park. Support The Obsessive Viewer on Patreon for as low as $1 per month. Timestamps Show Start - 00:23 Introducing Fekkes - 01:13 Independence Day (1996) - 06:06  Independence Day: Resurgence - 15:46  Non-Spoiler Review - 17:44 Listener Thoughts - 38:09 Tiny's Independence Day: Resurgence Review - 42:41 Spoiler Review - 1:02:18  Potpourri - 1:36:24 Matt: On turning 30/Jurassic Park (1993) - 1:37:05 Fekkes: The Lobster (2015) - 1:39:58 Matt: Central Intelligence (2016) - 1:44:43  Next Week: Game of Thrones - 1:52:10 Stinger: Armageddon and Ben Affleck - 1:56:04 Pre-Recorded Outro - 1:57:19  Show Notes Related Episodes and Links: Submitted For Your Approval - Ep 26 - Execution Apathetic Enthusiasm Podcast Horror Master George Romero Finally Set For Hollywood Walk of Fame  Matt's Letterboxd Profile Tiny's Letterboxd Profile Matt's DVD Collection List on Letterboxd Matt's Blu-ray Collection List on Letterboxd  Obsessive Viewer - Check out plenty of reviews of movies, TV shows and industry commentary at the blog that started it all. Obsessive Viewer Presents: Anthology - Matt's solo podcast exploring science fiction anthology storytelling in television's first golden age starting with The Twilight Zone. Obsessive Book Nerd - Our “sister site” where you can find book reviews and commentary on the evolving world of reading. r/ObsessiveViewer - The official Obsessive Viewer subreddit! The Secular Perspective - Check out Tiny's side project podcast that explores the concepts of faith, religion and existence from the perspective of secular hosts. Mike's Band: As Good As It Gets - Check out Mike's band and download the “Something New E.P.” for free! Loudlike Facebook Page - Like the band that gave us our theme song on Facebook! Loudlike “Mistakes We Must Make” EP on iTunes - Our theme song is “An Eclipse of Events.” Grab Loudlike's EP and hear the full version of our theme.  Let us know what you think! Like us on Facebook: The Obsessive Viewer Tweet us: @ObsessiveViewer, @ObsessiveTiny, @IAmMikeWhite Email us: Matt, Tiny or Mike at ObsessiveViewer.com Check out the blog: http://ObsessiveViewer.com Find past episodes of the podcast: http://OVPodcast.com RSS Feed: http://obsessiveviewer.libsyn.com/rss The official OV Subreddit: r/ObsessiveViewer Subscribe to us on iTunes and leave us a review.

The guys discuss thetrademark dispute between a CrossFit gym and Nike over the Jordan Jumpman logo. They then answer, "Can I prevent my employees from showing tattoos during work?" What do you think, did this CrossFit gym infringe on Nike? Full Podcast Transcript NASIR: All right. Welcome to our podcast. My name is Nasir Pasha. MATT: My name is Matt Staub. NASIR: Oh, I messed you up, right? This is our podcast where we cover business in the news and answer some of your business legal questions that you, the listener, can send in to ask@legallysoundsmartbusiness.com. Very fun episode today. I’m really looking forward to something that I’m very much into which is CrossFit. Actually, I’m not at all. Never done it in my life but I feel like I should say that. MATT: Yeah, I’ve never done it, never plan on doing it. I have friends that are all about it and I’ve seen people do it. It just seems like it’s asking to be injured. It’s not natural. They’re just, like, jerking around tons of weight awkwardly and – I don’t know – it just seems very questionable but I’m sure it can get you into good shape, if done correctly. NASIR: Yeah, I think the problem is a lot of people do it incorrectly because they’re either not being trained properly or the trainer doesn’t know what they’re doing. Actually, what I am into is all the CrossFit videos of people getting injured doing crazy stuff. That’s pretty funny. MATT: I like to watch injuries. NASIR: Yeah, but they do some really, really dumb stuff and it’s obvious bad form. And then, of course, it’s really what not to do in CrossFit. MATT: Well, it’s one of two things, right? It’s either people that are pushed too far – like, they just go on to keep doing more and more weight or more and more reps so they’re going to push themselves and compromise their body; or, two, they’re just so tired at that point that you’re not 100 percent and you just let something slip and that’s how you get hurt. NASIR: Yeah. MATT: But I’m not like you and like to watch people get injured. NASIR: Uh… Well, I mean, that’s about as close as I can get to CrossFit. MATT: Yeah. NASIR: But there is a joke with CrossFit that I think there’s one rule about CrossFit that you don’t stop talking about CrossFit which is totally true because people that are in it are way in it. I don’t know what it is. MATT: It’s a cult, basically. So, what we’re going to talk about, this is a CrossFit gym in West Palm Beach, Florida. The reason I like talking about these is they’re just good conversation pieces and we’re dealing with trademark infringement, just to let people know. I like to have the debate of whether this is an infringement or not for these things. So, basically, those of you who are familiar with Nike – which I hope everyone is – they have the Jordan brand which, I’m sure, everyone has seen – even you, Nasir. NASIR: Michael Jordan! MATT: Even you who doesn’t watch too much basketball, I’m sure you know who Michael Jordan is and have seen the logo at some point. NASIR: I stopped following basketball when he retired the first time. MATT: 1998. Well, that’s a while ago. So, we’ll link it on the show notes but it’s him, you know, just jumping through the air. It’s the iconic shot of him – like, the ball up in the air, one leg up, one leg back. NASIR: Dunking. MATT: On his way to dunk. So, this CrossFit gym, their logo is basically the exact, it’s not exactly the same but it’s the Michael Jordan Jumpman logo but upside down. NASIR: It’s pretty close. MATT: I just don’t really understand it, I guess. Is it trying to make some sort of message? I don’t understand it to begin with, but that’s why Nike is going after them, saying, “We own the rights to the Jumpman logo. This is infringement. You’ve just taken our logo and flipped it upside-down.” NASIR: How come I can’t find their actual logo? I keep finding the Nike logo. MATT: Yeah, I was just trying to find that, too. If you go to their website,

Nasir and Matt welcome business guru Roy Daya.  They talk about why a business might fail after an acquisition and answer the question, "I have put in many years to get my business profitable and just reached that goal this past year. We have a sound business model in place and secured investments so we have enough cash. What sort of challenges should I expect to face in scaling my business from here?" Transcript:   NASIR: Welcome to Legally Sound Smart Business. This is Nasir Pasha. MATT: And this is Matt Staub. NASIR: Welcome to our business legal podcast where we cover business in the news with a legal twist and also answer some of your business legal questions where you, the listener, can submit to ask@legallysoundsmartbusiness.com. Today, we have a fun guest today. We have a nice startup guru for some of your high-tech startups listening out there. His name is Roy Daya. I call him a startup guru because pretty much every successful startup has one of these consultants in their arsenal – one of these guys that can get them through the process that has been through these serial entrepreneurial cycles before. Roy, welcome to the program! ROY: Hi! Thank you for having me! NASIR: Absolutely. Matt, what store are we covering today? MATT: On this show, we talk a lot about startups and we talk about a lot of big public companies, too. Typically, the problems or the mistakes they make. But we don’t spend a lot of time necessarily in the middle. We’re past the point where they’re a startup and we’re getting to the point where the company might be acquiring something else or they might be on the other end and they might be acquired by a bigger company. It could be in a variety of ways – revenue, maybe a product line, maybe the actual people of another company, or maybe the intellectual property. From what I understand, Roy, you deal a lot in working with these companies on either end. I don’t know if you’ve had any experiences from your perspective in the acquisition phase for these companies. ROY: Yeah, I have experienced both with companies getting bought or acquired and with a lot of companies that wanted to get acquired and for some reason or it didn’t happen or they’re still waiting. I know a lot of startups are obsessed with getting bought out by large enterprises and, you know, I can understand them. NASIR: The thing with these acquisitions though, we’ve seen a lot of these big corporations acquire companies. I know Yahoo! acquired Tumblr a while back and that hasn’t done much. A lot of times, I’ve read statistics with these mergers and acquisitions where, a lot of times, these startups and acquisitions don’t meet their marks. I’ve read up to 60-some percent or even 83 percent in recent years where these acquisitions are just not meeting these goals. You know, I wonder, with the Googles of the world and even Facebook, they’re just acquiring like crazy. They’re just betting on some of these are going to hit the marks and some of them aren’t. ROY: I think, on one side, it is kind of a bet. Sometimes, you know, you buy something to make sure nobody else buys it. Sometimes, you buy a company to reduce future risks. For example, if you need that other company in your operations and you rely on them, you buy from them, you want to make sure that nobody else buys them and triples the prices, for example, and it’s kind of an operational cost reduction, risk reduction. There are different reasons – not always long-term. Sometimes, it’s short-term. You’ll have a problem with your stock and the risk operation and you want to show that you’re innovative and you’re moving forward. There’s a lot of different reasons and I think not always the marks that are checked to be successful or not are the reasons why it was done in the first place. I think there’s so much information we just don’t know about. It’s very exciting. NASIR: Yeah, absolutely. I think, from my personal experience, I’ve been less representing clients that have been ac...

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