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This interview (with a different "One Quick Thing" segment) originally aired in September of 2022.We're off to the see the Wizard with this REPLAY! At 62, Doug Jones is as busy as ever, playing The Baron on FX's What We Do in the Shadows, Saru on Star Trek: Discovery, and returning to the role of Billy Butcherson in Hocus Pocus 2. But you might be most familiar with Doug for his singular roles in heavy prosthetics -- as Abe Sapien in Hellboy and Hellboy II, as The Amphibian Man in The Shape of Water; as Pan and the Pale Man in Pan's Labyrinth. Doug's physical presence -- once something he'd have wished away -- is a huge part of what has made his performances so rich and memorable. And one early source of inspiration and identification was Ray Bolger's Scarecrow in The Wizard of Oz. Then, Jordan has one quick thing about the terrifying Art the Clown.***With Jordan Crucchiola and Doug Jones.
Weirdos! Are you ready to talk about Vampires? Today we are joined by the ICONIC actor Doug Jones, the nicest monster in Hollywood! He has played everyone from Billy Butcherson in the Hocus Pocus films, the Fawn & the Pale Man in Pan's Labyrinth, to the Amphibian Man in the Academy Award winning film The Shape of Water, as well as the titular role in David Lee Fisher's Nosferatu: A Symphony of Horror available NOW on AppleTV, Amazon Prime, and other purchasing platforms! We ask him about his experience playing the hilarious Baron Afanas on What We Do in the Shadows which entered its final season on October 21st on FX! Ash tops off the episode telling us about a vampire legend from Poland. It has goat throwing! It has pacts with the devil! It has supernatural halitosis! It is the vampire story that keeps giving, hopefully, with the aid of our friend Dougie, will come to a theater near you at some point in the future! Looking for the Full story of Cuntius?? Visit https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/An_Antidote_Against_Atheism/Book_III/Chapter_IXSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
In tonight's story, Lance wraps up spooky season with Julius Long's, The Pale Man (1934).Thank you for being part of the Dozing Off community!
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This episode we explore the classic Pan's Labyrinth and one of it's iconic creatures, the Pale Man! Chris isn't there to stop us from shilling! Adrian's grandma has some very specific advice. Will explains the concept of a glizzy! We, once again, remind our listeners to never eat the food.
We hope you enjoy this slightly creepy tale about a man convalescing in a country inn by author Julius Long. Please let us know what you thought of the episode by leaving us a review on Spotify. If you want to help support us in making more of this type of thing, then please consider supporting us on Patreon! If you enjoyed the cool ambient music in the background show some love to ArchitectSound on Patreon as well!
Watch out! Its the Pale Man! It's Amphibian Man! It's- Actor Doug Jones on this weeks episode of Scream Dreams! Support the show and get 50% off of Factor at https://www.factormeals.com/screamdre... and use code screamdreams50 PATREON: Check out the EXTENDED CUT of this episode with BONUS MATERIAL exclusively for our Early Bird Patreon Subscribers! https://www.patreon.com/ScreamDreamsPod Follow Scream Dreams: linktr.ee/screamdreams Welcome to SCREAM DREAMS - The Nightmares That Shaped Us! This is the show that delves into our most vivid dreams and nightmares, and how they affect our lives and work. Show hosts are Catherine Corcoran (Terrifier, Return to Nuke 'Em High), James A Janisse (Kill Count, Dead Meat Podcast) and Barbara Crampton (Re-Animator, Suitable Flesh). Episode 16 live premieres on Wednesday 2/28 at 7:15 AM PST / 10.15 AM EST. We hope to see you then for our LIVE CHAT - and please don't forget to Like, Subscribe and Comment. We really welcome your Feedback - please let us know what you think of the show so far in the comments, suggest any fun nightmare games we might play, as well as future guests you'd like to see on the show! --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/scream-dreams/support
This week on the #TowerCastPodcast we talk to a very prolifically talented individual who is highly regarded as “The Most Famous Actor You've Never Seen”. Doug Jones is an individual who's widely revered in the creature feature world and beyond acting in films such as Tim Burton's Batman Returns, Guillermo Del Toro's Mimic, also playing Abe Sapien in Hellboy 1 & 2, The Faun and Pale Man characters in Pan's Labyrinth, and even joining Del Toro on the Oscar stage for playing Amphibian Man in his academy award winning picture, “The Shape of Water”. Join us as we dive into his unique and fascinating world as we cover topics such as being recognized as an actor without further subtitles, his beautiful relationship with Guillermo Del Toro, his favorite films, and much more on this week's episode! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/towercast/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/towercast/support
A tale of terror in a nearly empty Cape Cod hotel in the off-season.
Welcome to the CodeX Cantina where our mission is to get more people talking about books! Was there a theme or meaning you wanted us to talk about further? Let us know in the comments below! Let's talk about the spooky "The Pale Man" by Julius Long today! Julius Long Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzhOqtDrlZY&list=PLHg_kbfrA7YBd1zTCw43mVBoBIajiQUiE ✨Do you have a Short Story or Novel you'd think we'd like or would want to see us cover? Join our Patreon to pick our reads.
Welcome to the Instant Trivia podcast episode 964, where we ask the best trivia on the Internet. Round 1. Category: Bottom Dwellers 1: These porous creatures from the phylum Porifera go from the bottom of the Mediterranean to bathtubs. sponges. 2: One of the largest of these bewhiskered bottom-dwelling fish is the European Wels at 15'. catfish. 3: The crayfish found in this famous Kentucky landmark are blind. Mammoth Cave. 4: The American species of this bottom-dwelling crustacean is usually caught in a "pot". lobster. 5: Scientists have found 5' long ones near hydrothermal vents in the ocean. tube worns. Round 2. Category: Here Come The Monsters! 1: This nickname of the demonic villain in the "Hellraiser" franchise is also a term for someone not so sharp. a pinhead. 2: In a 1998 movie the spawn of this reimagined monster hatched in Madison Square Garden. Godzilla. 3: In "The Host", something is living in the River Han and is set to wreak havoc on this capital city. Seoul. 4: In this Guillermo del Toro movie, Doug Jones played both "El Fauno" and "The Pale Man" who had eyes on his hands. Pan's Labyrinth. 5: This term for hatred or malice is also the beast kept in a pit by Jabba the Hutt and defeated by Luke. Rancor. Round 3. Category: State / Prison 1: Attica! and Southport Correctional Facility!. New York. 2: You're off to the land of Lincoln Correctional Center and also Dixon (but no Mason). Illinois. 3: Hey! You! Get off of my correctional facility at St. Cloud! Rush City, too, for that matter!. Minnesota. 4: Cedar Junction and Framingham are wicked excellent prisons for the wicked. Massachusetts. 5: It's another Pleasant Valley State Prison Sunday, no one's flying out of Pelican Bay, either. California. Round 4. Category: Kid Stuff 1: They were first allowed to play Little League ball in 1974. girls. 2: In Mexico kids take a whack at cracking open these, candy-filled papier-mache figures. a piñata. 3: "The Incredible Journey" described the incredible journey of 2 dogs and 1 of these. Siamese cat. 4: Military term for a living room structure with sofa-cushion walls. fort. 5: This game, also called jackstraws, is mentioned in they rhyme, "One, Two, Buckle My Shoe". pick-up sticks. Round 5. Category: My Movies 1: A musical:"My blank Lady". Fair. 2: "My blank Foot ". Left. 3: "My blank blank Greek Wedding". Big Fat. 4: "My blank Is an Alien". Stepmother. 5: "My blank Laundrette". Beautiful. Thanks for listening! Come back tomorrow for more exciting trivia! Special thanks to https://blog.feedspot.com/trivia_podcasts/
The Pale Man by Julius Long Today I tell you a tale about a summer vacation gone wrong in the hopes of chilling your too-hot day. The Pale Man was first published in Weird Tales Vol. 24, Issue 3 (1934). It is in the public domain and you can read it for yourself here. Be featured on a Small Frights episode! Submit all Halloween queries, advice, recommendations, or memories via telephone to the All Hallows Hotline at (802) 532-Dead! or write an EEEEKmail to itsalwayshalloweenpodcast@gmail.com Scare your fellow lanterns this season! Submit your haunting tales, photographs, art pieces, and/or recipes to Lantern's Way #2: There's a G-G-G-Ghost! Email all submissions to thelanternsway@gmail.com Submission deadline: 8/25 Pre-Order The Lantern's Way #2 Order The Lantern's Way #1 IAH Spotify Playlist Subscribe to It's Always Halloween on Patreon Support It's Always Halloween with a One Time Donation Follow It's Always Halloween on Instagram Join the Local Lantern Society Intro music by Pete Byrnes. Scoring for this episode was composed by Toru Takemitsu (Nostalghia, 1987) and performed by Yuri Bashmet.
Diane and Sean discuss the un-fun gorgeous film by Guillermo del Toro, Pan's Labyrinth. Episode music is, "Mercedes Lullaby" by Javier Navarrete, from the OST.- Our theme song is by Brushy One String- Artwork by Marlaine LePage- Why Do We Own This DVD? Merch available at Teepublic- Follow the show on social media:- Tumblr: WhyDoWeOwnThisDVD- Follow Sean's Plants on IG: @lookitmahplantsSupport the show
In the town below the old lodge, things begin to seem almost normal. They aren't, of course. Arial and Walker cannot protect Kasey from the Pale Man's notice forever, and Deacon doesn't really seem to be trying.. but why does that mean that the architecture and geography of the town itself is changing?
Becky has seen the same entity appear in her home and her car for years. But she can't figure out who he is, how to talk to him, or how to get rid of him. Listen to her give the few clues she has about this strange pale man, and see if you have any idea who or what he could be.Want to be a part of our Patreon? Check us out at patreon.com/homespunhaintsCover photo by Raphael Nast on Unsplash
In which Kasey and Deacon cross an underground river and encounter the Pale Man, who is also known - for some reason - as Dracula. This episode features vocals by Jonthan Durnford as Deacon, and Daniel Bell as the Pale Man.
In which Kasey has a great many questions, and does not get nearly enough answers. Who is the Pale Man that Walker calls 'Dracula'? How is he connected to the cultists, with their eerily familiar chanting? Why are Walker and Arial hiding, and who exactly is Nyarlathotep..? This episode once again features vocals by Michele Ong as Arial, Jonthan Durnford as Deacon, and Lee Goldsworthy as Constable Delaney.
Astrid, Karin og Aurora snakker om filmene Pans Labyrint (2006), Shape of Water (2017), Graveyard Rats fra serien Cabinet of Curiosities (2022) og Pinocchio (2022). Vi tar et dypdykk inn i Guillermo del Toro som manusforfatter, regissør og produsent. I tillegg har Aurora et innslag om The Pale Man og Astrid anmelder Tina og Bettina 2 (2023). Ta en lytt!
Mysterious guests at a hotel? What could be more intriguing? In "The Pale Man," by Julius Long, our narrator keeps his eye on a strange man that keeps moving from room to room...ever closer to his own. Join us for this great story and we'll also be checking in to some more haunted hotels.MusicFesliyan Studios: "Ghost Stories," "Unfolding Revelation"Audio Jungle: "Halloween Waltzes"The Staple Singers: "Will the Circle be Unbroken?"Narration: Robert BreaultPlease join us! Like and follow our Facebook page to become " patron of the Cemetery Hills Library, or (even better!), jump on our Patreon page and become a VIP Patron. Mugs, tee-shirts and eternal thanks await you! Patreon Page: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=61177769&fan_landing=trueWebpage: http://www.afterwordsparanormal.comFacebook: After Words Paranormal PodcastEmail: afterwordsstories@gmail.com
Mysterious guests at a hotel? What could be more intriguing? In "The Pale Man," by Julius Long, our narrator keeps his eye on a strange man that keeps moving from room to room...ever closer to his own. Join us for this great story and we'll also be checking in to some more haunted hotels.MusicFesliyan Studios: "Ghost Stories," "Unfolding Revelation"Audio Jungle: "Halloween Waltzes"The Staple Singers: "Will the Circle be Unbroken?"Narration: Robert BreaultPlease join us! Like and follow our Facebook page to become " patron of the Cemetery Hills Library, or (even better!), jump on our Patreon page and become a VIP Patron. Mugs, tee-shirts and eternal thanks await you! Patreon Page: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=61177769&fan_landing=trueWebpage: http://www.afterwordsparanormal.comFacebook: After Words Paranormal PodcastEmail: afterwordsstories@gmail.com
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Ian and company return to the Freehold. They prepare a plan for the Exodus to the colony site. The plan is accepted and approved by the Elder Council. Ian get his Scribe's Apartments. Rumor's about sightings of the "Pale Man" circulate. Lars is sent to spy. Two Feathers follows, because they fear Lars will not be able to get back. Preperation to Go to Jed Johnson Colony site progress. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Ian and company return to the Freehold. They prepare a plan for the Exodus to the colony site. The plan is accepted and approved by the Elder Council. Ian get his Scribe's Apartments. Rumor's about sightings of the "Pale Man" circulate. Lars is sent to spy. Two Feathers follows, because they fear Lars will not be able to get back. Preperation to Go to Jed Johnson Colony site progress. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Happy Halloween Ghosts, Ghouls and Things that go Bump in the night! The Haunted Horrorstorian has a special treat for you all on this spooky occasion. Join us for a holiday tale that will surely leave on the edge of your seat..and maybe even your sanity. Tune in for The Pale Man. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/hauntedhorrorstorian/support
Welcome to the Spill Your Guts Halloween Special!The Man Behind The Masks: Doug Jones Talks About What It's Like To Truly Embody A MonsterFrankenstein's monster, the wolfman, Nosferatu (or Count Orlok to be precise) and the Phantom of the Opera. All iconic monsters of early cinema played by equally iconic actors such as Max Schreck, Boris Karloff, Lon Chaney and Lon Chaney Jr. These performances have stood the test of time not only for their inspired makeup and design but because the actors portraying them found the heart in the monster. Whether it's Karloff's touching humanity as Doctor Frankenstein's shunned creation or Max Schreck's spidery skulking as one of cinema's earliest vampires, these are the monsters that paved the way for countless monsters throughout film history.In the current landscape of cinema monsters there is one man who casts a very, very long shadow. He has portrayed so many memorable characters that will endure that it's hard to count. That actor is Doug Jones.For some, Doug's first stand out role will be as Billy Butcherson in the Halloween classic Hocus Pocus. For others, it's Abe Sapien in Guillermo Del Toro's hit Hellboy. For Kevin Lane, it's his dual roles as the Faun and Pale Man in Del Toro's dark fairy tale masterpiece Pan's Labyrinth. And it's in Doug Jones that Del Toro found his muse. Doug's almost supernatural way of communicating through movement what most actors could not say in a monologue has created a celebrated ongoing collaboration between one of genre cinema's best filmmakers and best actors. This episode is very special because not only do we adore Doug, but host Kevin Lane had the opportunity to sit down with Doug in person in Toronto. Listeners of Spill Your Guts may know that most of our conversations are recorded remotely. There isn't a better guest for us to have had the opportunity to speak to in the flesh! Doug and Kevin discuss his childhood self-consciousness about his body, his early mime work and sort of meeting Christopher Walken on the set of Tim Burton's gothic masterpiece Batman Returns, his deliciously evil role as a cannibal in Larry Fessenden's episode of Fear Itself and his many collaborations with Del Toro, including their best picture Oscar winning film The Shape of Water.As much as Doug has portrayed characters in many magical films, there is nothing more magical then the man himself. Welcome to wonderous world of Doug Jones! Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★
We did it; we did the mash. Join Tomb, Dankenstein, and Scare-ah on a special tour of mythic and modern monsters. After a brief meditation on scary stories and Horror movies, the marathoners run for their lives through monster tales from Greek, Japanese, Cree and Celtic mythology. Also featured are some monstrous figures from modern stories and legends, including the Alzabo from Gene Wolfe's Book of the New Sun, and the infamous Pale Man from Guillermo Del Toro's fantasy masterpiece, Pan's Labyrinth. Contained within: getting bodied by a gadfly, wildly violent defecation, Ickybod Clay, Gabba-Ghouls, and asking tough questions like "Is it a sin to do karate with a bong?"
This film ties together themes of the real, historical power of food and stories via fantastical threads. Anney and Lauren explore the semi-fictional foods of ‘Pan's Labyrinth'.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Here is a relatively obscure tale of suspense for the scary season. After checking into a small hotel to convalesce for the summer, a man becomes curious about an enigmatic guest who has taken up residence and the other end of the hall. About the story: As I can only read stories in the public domain, you might wonder about the reference to a Hitler mustache. That's because this story was published in 1934 and the copyright was not renewed. Julius Long was a lawyer and author of a few horror and detective stories. His work is not well known, but several of his stories, like this one, are quite good. He was not a prolific writer and died fairly young at age 47. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Spooked ya! This week, Rick and Ben get into the holiday spirit by reading some scaaaaary stories. You'll hear: Poe's "The Tell-Tale Heart," Long's "The Pale Man," and the internet creepypasta "Ben Drowned." We thought that this would be a nice change of pace, and maybe the start of a fun holiday tradition. Enjoy!PATREON: www.patreon.com/pixelprojectradio DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Rfjx2ptWP5TWITTER: @pixelprojectpodINSTAGRAM: @pixelprojectradiopodcastThank you for listening! Want to reach out to PPR? Send your questions, comments, and recommendations to pixelprojectradio@gmail.com! And as ever, any ratings and/or reviews left on your platform of choice are greatly appreciated!
Pan's Labyrinth is more than you may think.Hello nomads and welcome to our conversation about Guillermo del Toro's 2006 film, Pan's Labyrinth. Truly a unique film, but what makes this haunting film so beautiful? Is it Ofelia's brave journey between two dark worlds? The battle of good versus evil? Or the Pale Man's lonely buffet? Seriously, what is he doing down there?Stick around until the end for a round of Fairy Tale Trivia.Safe travels, nomads. And don't eat the Pale Man's grapes!
Spooky season has creeped upon us faster than the Pale Man can pop his eyeballs into his palm-sockets. If you don't get that reference, listen to this episode; we examine Guillermo del Toro's 2006 masterpiece, “Pan's Labyrinth.”We talk all about fawns, fairies and Franco era fascism. What more could you ask for? Oh, there's more.Tune in and make sure you bring your chalk for a quick escape. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
At 62, Doug Jones is as busy as ever, playing The Baron on FX's What We Do in the Shadows, Saru on Star Trek: Discovery, and returning to the role of Billy Butcherson in Hocus Pocus 2. But you might be most familiar with Doug for his singular roles in heavy prosthetics -- as Abe Sapien in Hellboy and Hellboy II, as The Amphibian Man in The Shape of Water; as Pan and the Pale Man in Pan's Labyrinth. Doug's physical presence -- once something he'd have wished away -- is a huge part of what has made his performances so rich and memorable. And one early source of inspiration and identification was Ray Bulger's Scarecrow in The Wizard of Oz.Then, Jordan has one quick thing about a movie you've probably heard of: Smile.***Here's that Reddit thread about how sexy people find Baron Afanas.***With Jordan Crucchiola and Doug Jones
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In today's episode, we're exploring the creatures of one of our favorite monster movies (directed by the inimitable Guillermo del Toro), Pan's Labyrinth! We explore the predatory Pale Man, the mysterious Faun, and more! Co-Hosts: Andre Couture Michael Vaughn Editor: Andre Couture
An assistant staying in a country hotel becomes obsessed with a mysterious resident who inexplicably moves from room to room - a tall, pale woman who doesn't speak. Told by Shannon Leigh Webber. Adapted from "The Pale Man" by Julius Long. @thescarystoriespodcast @randomactsnet randomactsnetwork.com --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/scarystoriesra/support
This episode we break down the fantastic mind of Guillermo del Toro with the famous Pale Man scene from his haunting coming of age horror fantasy film Pan's Labyrinth. Make sure to play along with each festival and leave comments so we can interact with you and remember to subscribe to the channel if you like what you see. Follow us for more interaction and content: INSTAGRAM: https://instagram.com/deepdivefilmschool TWITTER: https://twitter.com/ddfspodcast FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/deepdivefilmschool Join our growing community for new videos every week!
Happy Halloween! In honor of our favorite holiday, we're reading two short stories guaranteed to send chills up your spine. Kaytlyn reads The Pale Man by Julius Long, while Celeste reads The Petting Zoo by Peter de Niverville. To get your Ghoul Friends gear, head over to ghoulfriendspod.redbubble.com Got a spooky tale? Send it to us at ghoulfriendspodcast@gmail.com You can find us on Instagram (ghoulfriendspodcast), on Facebook (Ghoul Friends Podcast) or send us a message at ghoulfriendspodcast@gmail.com
Happy Halloween! Thanks for listening. Tonight I bring you a horror story from 1934. Do you ever consider who your neighbors are when you travel and stay at a hotel? Maybe you should....You can visit us on Twitter @IntotheNightPod Email us at itnanthology@gmail.com Facebook https://www.facebook.com/intothenightpod On the CastJunkie Discord server under the podcasts heading https://discord.gg/wgmw5dKFMwNarrated and produced by Nari Kwak.Find her on Twitter @NariKwak_VA Email narikwak.voa@gmail.com Facebook https://www.facebook.com/nari.kwak.904 You can support Nari and this podcast at https://www.buymeacoffee.com/NariKwakWritten by Julius Long This work is in the public domain in the United States because it was legally published within the United States (or the United Nations Headquarters in New York subject to Section 7 of the United States Headquarters Agreement) before 1964, and copyright was not renewed.For Class A renewals records (books only) published between 1923 and 1963, check the Stanford University Copyright Renewal Database.For other renewal records of publications between 1922–1950 see the University of Pennsylvania copyright records scans.For all records since 1978, search the U.S. Copyright Office records.Works published in 1934 would have had to renew their copyright in either 1961 or 1962, i.e. at least 27 years after it was first published / registered but not later than in the 28th year. As it was not renewed, it entered the public domain on .
After discussing leech-themed cocktails (1:30) and another round of Leech Anatomy 101 (4:07), Aaron, Banks and Evan dive into Pan's Labyrinth's leechiest themes (11:28), scenes (22:00), and characters (28:10). To get some relief, the guys head into their first Leech on a Beach segment (35:17). They conclude by considering the film's medicinal qualities (38:49) and giving an overall rating -- from 1 to 4 -- of the film's leechiness (44:10).We're always looking to expand our pond -- please reach out!Series URL: www.theleechpodcast.comPublic email contact: theleechpodcast@gmail.comSocial Media:@leechpodcast on Twittertheleechpodcast on InstagramExternal Links:"Leeches" Cocktail: https://www.ayearofcocktails.com/2012/05/leeches.htmlCredits:Hosted by Evan Cate, Banks Clark, and Aaron JonesEditing by Evan CateGraphic design by Banks ClarkOriginal music by Justin Klump of Podcast Sound and MusicProduction help by Lisa Gray of Sound Mind ProductionsEquipment help from Topher ThomasTranscript:Evan 00:05Hello everyone, welcome back to the Leech Podcast, the most visceral podcast. I'm your host, Evan Cate. And I'm joined by two leechy gentlemen, Aaron Jones and BanksClark.00:16Hey guys. 00:18How's it going?Evan 00:21The Leech Podcast has a show about movies that suck the life out of you. They also stick with you. They may even be good for you. Like a leech. If you're wondering what this means, think of a movie that you saw that you knew was amazing. And it also took so much out of you that you thought I don't think I can watch this movie ever again. And somehow, some way. Later on, you watch the movie again. And it is the best thing you've ever seen. That is a leech movie. Some of our listeners are wondering, how did y'all discover leech movies? Well, the three of us discovered our shared love of leech films. When we used to teach together at a school. We found quickly that the three of us are bleeding hearts, who love films. And we all know that blood attracts leeches. So we used to teach together, but now we leech together.Banks 01:27That's a good one.Evan 01:29Thank you. Thank you, I wrote that myself. We would love for others to join us in this leechy endeavor. So if you're interested in talking to us sharing ideas, please hit us up @LeechPodcast on Twitter, and theLeechPodcast on Instagram. We've already heard from some listeners who got some great ideas. Last week we asked about leech cocktails, what would be great drinks that have a leech theme and very grateful for the listeners who shared a cocktail called leeches. Here's the recipe guys. I'd love to get your feedback on what you think about this cocktail. So the recipe for leeches: -three shots lemonade-half shot vodka-half shot peach schnapps-a quarter shot of Canadian whiskey. Preferably black velvetOkay, guys, what do you think?Banks 02:20A bit sweet for my taste. I don't know. Do I do leeches like high blood sugar? That's my question.Aaron 02:28Hey, I was thinking the appropriate lee ch cocktail might be a little stankier--like a little bit like a bleeding armpit.Banks 02:44How does one make a bleeding armpit, Aaron?Aaron 02:42I'm waiting for the listeners to figure it out.Evan 02:45It's quite the challenge that Aaron has posed to our listeners. And I do think that that was a worthy effort, but we will take more suggestions on the leech cocktail. I believe Banks has a concoction in mind. They don't want to Oh, sorry. Was that too soon to spoil that?Banks 03:00Hey, this is what I'll say..beet juice is included. So that's all I'm gonna say at this point.Aaron 03:07 Mmmmm, snaps and clapsBanks 03:09I heard the pandemic ends. You know, we will get together and we will fine tune what this is we want to hear from you guys about what your ideas are. We'll try them all.Evan 03:21Okay, nothing beats a leech cocktail. Probably a great segue into something new this week, we're gonna have a new segment called “leech on a beach.” This is a segment dedicated to fun or humorous parts of the movies because we realize many of these movies are very serious and very grueling. And sometimes some levity is needed. Beyond our puns, we thought we wanted to really highlight leechy fun parts of movies. So stay tuned.Aaron 03:50Yeah, a little vacation, little vacation.Evan 03:52You can sip on your leech cocktailAaron 04:00for the leech on the beach segment. Evan 4:01 All right, so without further ado, Aaron, please teach us about some leeches with “leech anatomy 101”Aaron 04:08Leech Anatomy 101. This week and I'd like to talk to us about leeches teeth. leeches teeth. Couple years ago, 2019 they discovered a new leech. I'm looking at the News & Observer, Smithsonian researchers who discovered a new leech that had a three jaws each containing 56 to 59 teet--56 to 59--this is a leech that bites and bleeds humans. And so intriguing to me. You look imagine this you're looking like at a straw--this is like the leeches mouth--like three rows of teeth going down into like a little cave. Oh my goodness! This is the thing that's sucking on you! And as I was reading this article, the researcher said the way they discovered this leech was simply by walking into a swamp, just south of DC and Maryland. Walking into the swamp in shorts and flip flops, and seeing what would come up when they walked out? By golly, this little critter with 56 to 59 teeth per each three rows came up attached, greenish brown with some little orange speckles. And that's a leech with some teeth.Evan 05:26Wow. Thank you for that.Banks 05:28Thank you, question mark?05:48Those were some leech teeth. Wow. Okay.05:33teach us about leech-us.05:36So let's, let's all keep this in mind as we dive into this episode of the Leech Podcast. Our movie today, of course, is Pan's Labyrinth, a wonderful film directed by Guillermo Del Toro. And to give us a synopsis of this film, Banks, take it away.05:55Happy to! Obviously about to give a synopsis. So spoiler alert! If you haven't seen the movie, this would be a good time to pause it, go watch it, come back, the recording will still be here. It'll be well worth your time. But find the right time for this movie, that's for sure. It's not, not the one that you want to have to lighten the mood. But it's a wonderful film. Another quick thing is just a quick trigger warning. This is a film that has some pretty serious, just very heavy themes, especially around childbirth, but also it has some really nasty gore scene. Nothing absurd. This isn't a slasher film by any means. But you know, there are some things involving a razor blade that is, that'll stick with you a little bit like a leech. So just wanted to cover that, my guess is we might be talking about it. So just wanted to make sure those are out of the way. And make sure that y'all know about that before we listen to that. So this is a film that bridges between just some really brutal realities of the Spanish Civil War that really holds no punches at all. And then is also paired with some just wonderful wimzie of fantasy throughout. And so it's a film that goes back and forth. And the movie just sort of layers these in, almost like a very strange leechy layered cake of realism and fantasy. One after the other. The lead character is a little girl named Ophelia. And Ophelia is the daughter of Carmen, who is sort of pregnant with her younger brother. And the younger brother's father is named Vidal who is a captain of sort of the like, what is the faction called? I think that they're called the...Aaron 07:58Falangism? Yeah.Banks 08:00Is it the Falangist movement?Evan 08:01Yeah. So it's like fascist Spain. Right. Banks 08:02Yeah, you know, a very authoritarian regime. And so we're sort of thrown into the film and when they're sort of driving out to go meet the captain. And as they arrive Ophelia finds a labyrinth. And after doing that we're sort of then introduced from into this sort of fantasy realm where she meets a fawn, who then gives her a series of trials where she has to, you know, get a key from a toad and then she has to go and you know, get a dagger from a pale man at a feast, and then finally has to then take her younger brother into the labyrinth. And while all this is happening, at the same time, we have, you know, the mother struggling with sickness and childbirth and having traveled too soon. We're seeing the rebels battle in the Spanish Civil War into this gruesome detail, as hostages are detained and tortured. And it sort of escalates further and further as Ophelia progresses more and more in these different trials. And it's both happening as if these two stories are intertwined, but also, the contrast between the fantasy and the reality is incredibly stark, and the movie does a masterful job of balancing these two motifs, and playing them off of one another. And then finally at the end, the last trial Ophelia must take her younger brother into the labyrinth, where she then refuses to spill his her brother's blood. But then she is followed by Vidal, by her at this point stepfather, who then shoots her. And Ophelia dies in the final scene, because she refused to spill the blood of her innocent brother. And as she dies, we also get this sort of fantastic…. We're sort of swept up and taken to her then becoming a princess, the princess Moana of the underworld in a very positive sense. And then she is shown to be like, these have been what all the trials have been building towards, both in reality and out of reality, both at the same time. And so that's how this movie ends. It is an incredibly difficult movie, but also an incredibly powerful one. That I don't know about you guys, but I was left exhausted at the end of it.Evan 10:25Indeed, thank you. Thanks. So we're gonna move into our categories. Our first one is leechy themes. So Aaron, what was the theme? That was Leechy for you in this movie?Aaron 10:37I want him to talk about the theme of fatherhood in the film. I think I told you both that I watched this film for the first time many years ago. And actually before I was myself a father, and I had one reaction to it, then I think, I thought, you know, I, first of all, I never want to watch this movie again. And here I am having watched it a second time with you all. So it's stuck with me though it's stuck with me. But I have to say that being a father now my daughter is seven years old, beloved to me, and watching this movie about a young girl just a couple years older than my daughter go through a lot of suffering I... and without a father in her life to protect her ….or without it just she's an incredible danger so many times, and I think I had this experience of helplessness. As a father watching the film, like there's nothing I can do to help her protect this girl. And I mean, she's perfectly capable a lot of times of protecting herself. But I was intrigued by the ways in which like her in the absence of her father, becomes crucial to the film. And also the way in which fatherhood becomes one of the fantasy elements of the film. What do I mean? What do I mean? I was intrigued by the moment early in the film before Ophelia has met Vidal, who will become her who's her stepfather figure. Her mother says, “I want you to call him your father.” And Ophelia resists this notion so many times throughout the movie when Mercedes says, Oh, you know, your father wants you to call him. “He's not my father. He's not, he's not my father,” she resisted so heavily. And her mother says to her, “it's just a word. Say it. It's just a word.” “Pretend” is what her mother is saying. And that's one fantasy. She won't pretend like there's this deep allegiance to this missing father. And the last thing I'll say, is that Vidal also seems to have this obsession with fatherhood, he desperately wants to be a father--but only to a son. To the point that he...he almost seems cold and lifeless, totally uncaring, unfeeling when his wife dies, so long as the sun is preserved. And we know that's part of his character the whole time that he he only cares about the coming of the Son and his own becoming a father. And I'm intrigued both by, I'll be brief here the, the fixation on his watch. The broken watch, which his father without his father broke at the time of his own death, so his son would know when he died. And then, with Vidal, he sees the rebels with their guns, pointing at him he wants to break his watch. He wants to be remembered to have that same masculinist legacy. And Mercedes says, Your son will never know who you are, you will be erased. And there's something so painful about that, but it feels entirely deserved, like this kind of fatherhood is a reality that should be embraced.Evan 13:40Yeah, thanks. And I think to pick up on that. He's such an extreme version er has such an extreme understanding of fatherhood. And it fits a lot of other parts of his personality, right? He's the most brutal of anybody in the film. He shows no mercy to people who disagree. with him. And he is part of an ideology that is itself. So extreme. It's extreme nationalism. And, and he's not the only extreme character in the film. And I think that's why it's extremity or going to extremes is is my theme for the movie. There's revolutionaries, who will go to extreme measures to overthrow the fascists. Fantasy is woven throughout this film, which shows these extreme versions of reality, these extreme creatures, these extreme trials and quests, all that Ophelia has to undertake with these bloated toads, or this very, extremely pale man. And the film itself even kills a young girl, it's willing to take that step, this extreme step. And so I'm just struck by the extremes of this film, on a thematic level, on a personal level. But also the extremes of beauty in this film. It's funny, you guys had to convince me to watch it, because I thought it looked really scary. And I was so struck by how many scenes took my breath away, because they were so beautiful. And I left the film with a lot more questions. Just wondering, how do you hold together these extremes? And it seems like, somehow for Ophelia these extremes that she she is thrust into, due to choices made by her mom and her stepdad. Her answer is to go to her own kind of extreme, this extreme fantasy world, which is itself painful and scary at times. And yet, it's also beautiful. And it's this way in which she deals with the extreme situation she's in with an even deeper commitment to extreme beauty.Banks 15:30Yeah, it's, I think that Guillermo Del Toro's ability to create a beauty that is odd in some senses. But even when I watch it, you know, I also like Aaron said, I watched this back in high school, and I thought that, “This is such a cool movie. It's great.” And then I watched it again now and I'm like, Hey, this is an amazing movie and be Oof. Like, I was, I remember, you know, we all watched this together, and we were all speechless. For a minute. We were on a zoom call silent, together, just not knowing what to do with it. Partially because of the difficulty, but also because of the beauty of it, how it's masterful and putting that in terms of extremes just make so much sense. I don't know if Aaron, you had anything to say before I jump into mine?Aaron 16:29 No, please go aheadBanks 16:32I think that I just sent around the question of, it's about imagination and the question is this about imagination? Ophelia is fantasy world, something that is simply an escape from the traumatic reality that she's in. This interplay between trauma and imagination, for me, is incredibly powerful. You know, I was an art teacher for eight years. And as a result of that, just ended up being utterly inspired by students facing down incredible difficulty through art and imagination, to the point where I left and now I work in mental health. And so when I watch this movie, all I can, I'm asking, “Well, is this just about imagination as an escape? Or is this about something more than that?” I love that the film just creates this dynamic interplay between those two and we are just left to wonder left to be thoughtful with a bit of a mess at the end. You know, so much of the film is, you know, I think about the opening scene where she, Ophelia walks into the woods because her mother is experiencing morning sickness. And she finds this odd winged bug. And this, and she immediately knows that this is a fairy. And then in sort of in the seclusion and darkness as her mother sleeps back in the house, this transforms into an actual fairy that anybody could recognize, you know, with human form, and dragonfly wings. And it's that slippage. Is this happening? Is it not? Does she actually go into the door that she carves into a wall and face down the world's most frightening monster with eyes in his hands? Or is this simply a flight of fancy? And if it is, why does she fly to such frightening spaces? Why does she go to spaces that are not an escape that you'd want to go to? And I just think that that interplay is so powerful. And the power because it speaks to the power of stories and the power of imagination and the power of why we want to watch movies even to begin with. It's not because just escapism, it's because they speak to us for some reason in the midst of all of it. And that theme I have no resolution for. But man, it is stuck to me like a leech. I'll tell you what.Aaron 19:14Yea, Banks you just put a thought in my head that it's like. It's like in the world of reality she faces trauma and horror, and she has no no power, no quests, no influence. But she translates her trauma and horror into the language and symbology of myth. And then there she has agency in the myths, she has agency and influence and empowerment. And even though it's terrifying. And I just there's something about the creative space that is an empowering space, the fantasy space.Evan 19:47It's like the issue isn't the danger. The issue is agency. Yes. She's not afraid of danger. She's a brave girl. The issue is that with the doll, she's, she has no agency.Banks 20:03And with her mother's failing health. Yeah, yeah. I mean, what can you do? Right.Aaron 20:07Rather than put a Mandrake root in a bowl of milk. Banks 20:11Don't forget the blood. Aaron 20:13Yeah. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. More on that. Yes.Evan 20:19So indeed, more to come. So with those themes, the fatherhood extremes and imagination and trauma, let's think about some really specific things about this film. There are a number of leechy scenes that suck something out of you, but stick with you. I thought I would start. Mine in nothing very profound, I don't think but it is the scene where her first trial, where she goes down to find that key. And she meets this gigantic Toad, and she's in the muck underground. And it's just this large, bloated Toad, with bumps and weird colors and sounds. And it basically just, like explodes and belches out this key. And I don't think I'll ever forget it. And it's, it's stuck with me. So that's my scene.Banks 21:15Man. And I believe that there are things sticking on her and that seem to mean she's covered in. I remember, you're like texting to each other like, Oh, my gosh, she's covered in leeches! Evan 21:30It was very on brand for the Leech Podcast.Banks 21:35But like, she emerges from that, like from the stump covered in muck, right. And even then, right, she has been returned to the dinner party. Right, it's a moment of sort of the world, the extremes colliding, right. A powerful moment. You know, so for me, it's another one of the trial scenes, and oh my gosh, you know, I was alluding to it before but the scene with “the pale man” as it's called, right, with the feast of all the red foods, the murals of this devourer of infants sort of reminds me of Saturn Devouring his Children, this old like painting. Good heavens. It's frightening as anything. And here's this personification of all of that. with Hannah, the scene is literally it not only is very much just about the devouring of, you know, blood, and even the food is all red. All the foods are red. And blood is itself I think, a theme and a visual motif throughout the movie. But when I think of Pan's Labyrinth, unfortunately--I wish it wasn'--the image that comes to my mind is, you know, that pale man walking with his eyes in his hands next to his forehead. You know, full credit. I believe Doug Jones, the person who did sort of the body acting for that, and it's masterful work out amazing work and sort of practical special effects throughout this. That moment sticks with me and I think about it. And I don't want to be necessarily and I in the same way, I don't want that leech on me. Like when I think of the leeches scene, that's it. And it's an overflowing of imaginative imagery. It's full of these ripe themes. That also, it makes my skin crawl. So for me, that wins out. Aaron 24:03Yeah, it doesn't get much leecheir. I have to say, for me, I've scene that sticks with me and take something out of me is this scene of conflict, where I think it's one of the first times that I really remember in the film of Ophelia, and Vidal, her stepfather colliding. And it's the scene at her mother's bedside where Ophelia has been under the bed, tending to the Mandrake with the milk and the blood that she thinks is this healing agent that the Father has given her to help her mother's health and pregnancy. And Vidal finds the bowl and hurls the Mandrake root into the fire, and Ophelia turns and watches the child burn. And good lord, it's this moment of just incredible violence like talk about he who devours infants, he who destroys and is enemy to children, it has to be down. And then that moment, right, he again takes away all her agency, destroys that thing, where she's tried to take control of her mother's health. And you can just see all the foreshadowing in that moment that whatever fatherhood means to him, it's just gonna burn, it's gonna burn it's that moment is terrible.Banks 25:26Good heavens. Think about how that pulls together. I mean, talk about a moment where the extremes collide, the moment where it goes into the fire and you're wondering, is it just a weird root? They are, and then… it starts I can hear right now…Aaron 25:25[Shudders]Banks 25:26...the scream of that root. Oh, are those screams just in her head? Where are they? Are they real? It pulls together all the themes into this just melting pot of just discomfort. Oh, that scene, Aaron...I might have to change my vote.Evan 26:11I mean, these are very Leechy scenes and I guess I mean, Vidal is central in that last one. I mean, next you have a leechy, leechiest character because I feel like he would be in the running, perhaps. Banks 26:30Oh good heavens, I think he's a front runner. I mean, here's, here's the only thing. The reason why I actually don't have the doll as the front runner. Or as the leeches character in this case, is a leech is not the host. If nothing else Vidal is a person of conviction. He is a host... of evil in my opinion. I mean, he is the worst, but he is authentic. He believes and he has drunk the Kool Aid and he is all behind everything making no qualms about it.Aaron 27:12I mean, I think he has three rows of 56 or 59 teeth each Good lord.Banks 27:17I mean, but here's the thing I wonder if the leeches are the ones who are not even taking aside at all. And so I think of, if you look at the banquet, not the banquet that happens with the pale man, but of you know, you see a priest, you see all these people who are there, they're not the rebels. They're there just let me hold on to my wealth and I'm gonna say “Okay” to whatever. And to me that speaks a lot to politics right now. I I think that it's a that that might get a little too real but...Evan 27:49The priest, man….Banks 27:56So if I had to put my finger on an actual character though there, though it's Garces. He's the lieutenant under the Vidal. He's the one who's always uncertain. He [Vidal] always speaks to him. Like, “you know, do you know how a man dies? You know, go into battle. Don't be fair. Don't be afraid, you know, does that and then he just sort of learns that he dies and he just sort of has been. He's a character who was just leeching onto the host who is Vidal? Evil host that he is. He is he had he was spineless. And I'm gonna have to ask our anatomy expert. I'm gonna say Vidall has spine. But do leeches have spines?28:40I'm gonna hold that off until next episode, so those who want to get listening, we're gonna learn about leech spines on the next episode. Do they have spines? Stay tuned.28:51Good plug. Good plug. Aaron, do you have a leaky character?Aaron 28:57All right, let me think. I think I'm reading leechiness in a little bit of a different way. I'm, you know, Ophelia is always gonna be the character in this film, who sticks with me and take something out of me. And watching this watching her struggle, watching her overcome, and even like, stare down, stare down an armed man who wants to kill her? That's always gonna stick with me. Watching her refuse on the very cusp of achieving this mythic salvation that she's been hoping for watching her refuse to hurt the child in her arms. I'm not going to forget that. And that's, that's leads for me. So he does it hurts. take something out of me. But it's medicine. It's it's medicine too. That's what I have.Evan 29:50I think I'm interpreting my character similarly to you, Aaron. I first toyed with the idea of Vidal, which maybe we all did. Because he definitely sucks the life out of me. And kind of out of the film. I mean, every scene he's in, you're just like,”Ehhh” it's like fascism is exhausting. But like to quote Lebowski, thanks to your point Banks, “Say what you will about the tenets of National Socialism? You know, it's an ethos.” He's terrible. Yeah, he has a spine, but it's in the worst ways, right? So I don't see some great lesson or there's no therapy for me in his life. And, and so the character that will stick with me, who I found myself drawn to again and again was Mercedes. I think she holds together these extremes of realism and fantasy in her own way. It is really beautiful. She is the most practical, the most inside the fascist place, knows everything, knows what's going on, has so much trust. And yet she's directing all of that towards this very idealistic thing, revolution, which is, and the bravery, the brilliance, the courage. It's so powerful, and I won't forget her character. And I mean, she has so many unforgettable, unforgettable scenes. And I think, to me... it I think it's fitting that she's the one who cuts Vidal. And she's the one who physically defeats him. She is, I think, the strongest character in the film. Yeah. I mean, many characters are strong, but to me, she, she seems to match Vidal in a certain kind of strength, a kind of political strength. And yet, even there, she does him because she cuts him but she doesn't kill him. She defeats him, but doesn't take his humanity from him. And so I just, I was so taken with her and she will stick with me. And I was so terrified the whole movie that she was going to die. And so in that sense, watching her journey and struggle, sucked the life out of me. Even though she ended up living at the end of the film. So Mercedes for me, is the Leechy character.Aaron 32:07There's something really fitting about her being, in a way she is, she is a mother figure to Ophelia. And many times she provides in ways that Ophelia's mother just can't. Because her life is being sucked out of her at least away from her by the child inside of her So Mercedes, also in a way becomes the recipient, I would say, of afilias sacrifice. Uh huh. She becomes the beneficiary. She won't ever forget a philia and therefore is a different person, I think, at the end of the film.Evan 32:44Okay, so listeners, we're gonna take a quick break. We're gonna pause now for our newest segment, “Leech on a Beach.”Evan 35:32I'll start us off. This is a scene that is, I wouldn't say necessarily light. It is very violent. But after Captain Vidal, gets his mouth sliced by Mercedes, he sews it back up himself with a mirror. Very painful, it looks terrible. And then, too, I guess, disinfected, he takes a sip of whiskey. And it comes out of the wound that he's just sewn up, and he spits it out because it's so painful. And maybe it says a lot about the state of my soul, but I laughed out loud at that moment. And that was my leechy scene, or not my Leechy scene my leech on a beach, in part because it also then made me think of Christopher Nolan's Dark Knight, and the Joker. And all I could think was “Why so serious?”Aaron 33:54Oh, I was gonna say, Evan, this is not what my experience of vacation looks like. Normally when I'm going to the beach, I'm hoping for a better vacation than you just gave me. But I'll uh, I'll answer that I'm gonna try and be a little more lighthearted. And that for me, like when How do I go on vacation in this movie, and this hard movie? I'm still getting the live site data man. I'm at the beach is still leech at the beach. For me, it's for me the character in the film. Who does that, for me is the character of the light. The sunlight in the film for me is its own character. Just like when I'm at the beach, you know? And if you watch scene by scene, the way that the light presents itself in the film, as as a golden light, or is this light clear as water at different moments in the forest? For me, that's when I find myself receiving ease and going on vacation in the middle of a hard film.Banks 34:56I think that Ophelia the actress is Ivana Bachero. She has one of the world's most authentic smiles. And you see it every time something fantastic occurs, she gives this smile. It's the smile that says there is good still, and there is joy still. And yet something can be well. And in spite of all the heaviness that happens, man, that's like a summer breeze on a sunny day. I will enjoy that every time. And it like there's this weird thing right? When she meets a fairy, she finds a rock and like, shoves it into like a statue as its eye and then like a little bug shoots out of his mouth. Everyone else in their sasne mind would freak out, she smiles.Evan 36:05So I think that's a good segue to our next category which is “Hirudo Therapy.” The fancy way of saying the medicinal value of leeches. And I think maybe I'll start us off. I think for me, the idea in this film, or the thing that sticks with me, that makes the film, not just painful, but also instructive, is kind of this idea that when you're in pain, you should dive deeper into what is beautiful. And yet also, as you do so, you become aware that beauty itself brings its own kind of pain. I'm just struck by the ways Ophelia in the midst of all the suffering that she's in, she she dies, she moves toward beauty, but even that beauty is scary and hard, but it's also what she needs, it seems. And so, I guess my lesson is that the opposite of pain isn't happiness or the absence of pain. It's beauty. Only beauty can re-narrate, or redirect, or bring a new kind of order to pain and loss.Banks 37:21And it's not because it's the opposite of it, right? It's just the next step. Right? It's the answer as you put it.Evan 37:30And I thought about, there's a quote attributed to Dostoevsky, which is “Only beauty can save the world.” And I think it's a great quote, I think it's true in many ways. And I looked into it a little bit. It comes from a passage in the novel The idiot. And it's in a scene where this Prince is looking at a painting of a woman. And he says, “So you appreciate that kind of beauty.” This woman asked the prince, he says, “Yes, that kind.” The prince replies with an effort. “Why?” She asks. “In that face, there is much suffering,” he says, as though involuntarily, as though he is talking to himself. “Beauty like that is strength.” One of the other women in the room declares, “One could turn the world upside down with beauty like that.”Aaron 38:20I think for me, I'd say elaborate on that. what I wanted to talk about, you said strength, but for me, it was courage, watching the different kinds of courage that made themselves felt and the film. I'm thinking of Dr. Ferrero, the physician who helps the ailing mother, he helps wounded soldiers on both sides. He doesn't have a side other than the side of life; life prevailing, life being protected. And watching him watching Mercedes, watching Ophelia, this watching these people in the most, these awful circumstances, have courage. Its both inexplicable it's deeply moral, it's, but it's one of the most real things in the film, and it's moving to me, and it's inspiring to me, and its Hirudotherapy.Banks 39:26At least in movie form. When I think of the medicinal quality of this movie it is the love of story of narrative. It's the fact that if you want to tell a story, you can put any two things your imagination wants together, and there's a way to tell that story in a way that will captivate and move. All you have to do is see a path between the two. And somehow in Guillermo Del Toro's mind--which I have want to be able to think like in half don't want, I don't know--he saw a way to narrate the sort of fantasy world, right? That would make JK Rowling envious, and combine that with the brutality of the Spanish Civil War, and he charted a path right through the both of them. And it worked.Aaron 40:27I'm coming back to that. Coming back to the idea of courage. I think that one of the things that Ophelia embodies in the heart of this film is that she decides to value and treasure stories. Against all odds and against constant contradiction from the adults around her are saying, “Get out of your fairytale books stop fleeing into fantasy, stop imagining.” And you're right, like, her resistance is an act of courage and it's, it's enshrining the value of story at the heart of the film.Evan 41:02How many leeches do we give this film?Aaron 41:06How many leeches?Banks 41:09One is the lowest four is the highest, if I'm not mistaken?Aaron 41:12Specifically because four leeches would take your life. Just kidding. That's not actually true. I'll tell you how many leeches it would take to take a life on a future segment. Keep listening.Evan 41:26It's a four point scale still, I know Aaron wanted to cut a leech in half and call that five leeches. Yeah, four leeches. I think is still the criteriaBanks 41:39I'm going to give it fourAaron 41:11Say more, say more.Banks 41:42When I think of movies that, you know, is that, as Evan said in the intro, the movies that you watch that stick with you, then you watch them again and they floor ya. That's what happened when I watched this movie again with you guys. And it's not because I didn't know this movie. Well, I think I'd seen it multiple times, it just had been five or 10 years. And it did for me. And it stuck with me ever since it stuck with me before then. It ain't pleasant. I think it's utterly medicinal. And here's the thing the medicinal part about it has changed for me. As I've grown, as I've moved into mental health, this movie has opened up new layers. And maybe I'm biased because I got this mental health side that I'm really focused in on and this movie clearly has a huge psychological element. But it speaks to me, I'm going to give it four leeches, and I don't care who knows it,Aaron 42:42Damn? Evan 42:43Bolt, I love it.Aaron 42:44I was gonna say I mean, come back to the idea of fatherhood. Let me also come back to the idea of people walking into swamps in shorts and flip flops. Oftentimes, when leech hunters would go into the swamps, and actually oftentimes collecting leeches on their own body for medicinal purposes that they could then take off put into a basket, give to a medical practitioner, they would have to wait at least, oftentimes 20 minutes, like leave a leech on for that long because it's so much easier to take a leech off. Once it's already full it lets go easier. And for me, this movie just kept taking it, I'm giving it three leeches because it for me, as a father watching the end in this film, it took too much. It took too much. And that's why I'm gonna give it three.Evan 43:48So I think I was in a slightly different position, because it's just the first time I saw it. And I'll admit it, I was speechless at the end of it. And yet, I had, I felt it was hard connect for me in certain ways. And yet, as time has gone on, since we've watched it, and I think especially through this conversation, I'm at three leeches as well. I was, I was at two for a little while, just because I felt like I didn't connect to it for some reason. But the more I sat with it, and kind of like what you were saying thanks about story and about the power of narrative and art to work through or work into trauma and pain. I do think this film is profound for that. So I'm a three leecher for this one.Banks 44:39These are high marks. I think that is a, we are holding out at a 3.25/4.Evan 44:49All right. Well that. That brings us to the end of another episode of The leech. Thanks to all our listeners, for tuning in. We would love to hear what you thought about this episode. Again. You can find us on Twitter @LeechPodcast and on Instagram at theLeechPodcast, please. Yes, suggestions, ideas. If there are leechy scenes that we missed, please send us clips, send us summaries, send us videos of you reenacting them! We want to see it all.Aaron 45:23Not all of us are going to watch that.45:29Please keep them appropriate. Please, yeah, talk to us. Tell us what you think about the pod. And we would love to hear from you. Thanks for tuning in. On behalf of Banks and Aaron, I'm Evan Cate. This is the Leech Podcast.
Get ready to get Wicked, Weird, and Grim with the Grim Sisters in our second Spooky Short of this week leading up to Halloween! In this episode, we narrate two short but incredibly scary North Carolina ghost stories and the short story "The Pale Man", accompanied by some pretty awesome sound backing. Dive in and get spooked! --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/wicked-weird-and-grim/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/wicked-weird-and-grim/support
American Horror Story's own “Pale Man”, Spencer Novich joins Anna and Andrew to discuss formative frightening moments, threatening audition tapes and the trials and tribulations of being fitted for fangs. For merch click here: http://tee.pub/lic/bdCk0NATv7o For episode transcriptions click here: https://bit.ly/3n3nDYQ Listen to Scary Stories To Tell On The Pod Ad-Free on Forever Dog Plus: http://foreverdogpodcasts.com/plus FOLLOW ANNA: https://twitter.com/annadrezen https://www.instagram.com/annadrezen FOLLOW ANDREW: https://twitter.com/thatsajellyfish https://www.instagram.com/thatsajellyfish Produced by Tracy Soren Original Theme Music by Chris Ryan Cover Art by Bats Langley Production help from @lefthandedradio SCARY STORIES TO TELL ON THE POD IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/scary-stories-to-tell-on-the-pod/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The Pale Man, by Julius Long. Written for Weird Tales in 1934. Performed by Mark Wilhelm. A mundane visit in an out of the way hotel, becomes the setting for a dark encounter.
A college assistant professor on forced vacation becomes intrigued by the mysterious behaviour of a tall, pale stranger at the country hotel at which he is staying. But who is the man in room 212...and why does he keep changing rooms? This audio presentation of Julius Long's classic tale is part of the EnCrypted Classic Horror podcast series read and produced by Jasper L'Estrange. Fans of the creepiest, spookiest podcasts will thrill to the immersive retellings of these nightmarish short stories from the vaults of terror, complete with compelling narration, sound effects and music. As told by the mysterious Jasper L'Estrange, EnCrypted is the new name in scary story podcasts, drawn from the rich traditions of horror, supernatural, and weird fiction. Don't forget to like, leave a comment, and share! It's the most helpful thing you can do to keep creators creating... Please support my work: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/encryptedpod https://ko-fi.com/encryptedpodcast Listen to the EnCrypted podcast on: Spotify Apple Podcasts Amazon Music RadioPublic PocketCasts Anchor Google Podcasts RSS and many other podcast platforms!! Find and follow on social media: https://linktr.ee/encryptedpod About the episode: "The Pale Man" by Julius Long was first published in Weird Tales, Volume 24, Issue 3. Theme music: The Black Waltz by Scott Buckley | www.scottbuckley.com.au Music promoted by https://www.chosic.com Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0) https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Incidental music: Open Season by Weary Pines. Music from Uppbeat (free for Creators!): https://uppbeat.io/t/weary-pines/open-season License code: IJMJ8WGSKAGY0AMD Raw Meat by Weary Pines Music from Uppbeat (free for Creators!): https://uppbeat.io/t/weary-pines/raw-meat License code: NCPOEGO3F9OYV09M Sound effect attributions: https://freesound.org/ The recording was created using Audacity and distributed via Anchor.
Episode 032 - The end of 2020! Andy Lavine joins Len & Gary for a wrap up of this terrible year. The show starts with a long discussion about The Mandalorian and the Star Wars franchise in general. From there the trio gets into most of the big subjects of 2020 leading into 2021, with some personal experiences mixed in: The Nashville RV bombing, the Illinois bowling alley shooting, Qanon, travel stories, fear of heights, The Cult of Donald Trump, progressives, political parties, Mitch McConnell aka The Pale Man, Trump vs Hitler, covid, the myth of vaccine safety, the myth of privacy, quarantine, the steady decline of the US into Idiocracy, the perception of the US in international cultures, Trump's damage, Joe Biden, corporate control over politics, and lots of future predictions for the new year and beyond.#theupgrade #theupgradepodcast #podcast #landminestudios #billyclubsandwich #hardcoremusic #nyhc #newyorkhardcore #nyhardcore #starwars #mandalorian #politics #2020 #fuck2020 #donaldtrump #trumpsterfire #fucktrump #mitchmcconnell #fascism #quarantine #idiocracy #joebiden #corporateoverlords------------------------ Upgrade your mind - Hosts Len Carmichael & Gary Muttley talk about music, politics, MMA, pro wrestling and all kinds of pop culture. We will also connect with guests from around world to talk, share experiences and probably make fun of people. ------------------------ http://www.theupgradepodcast.net ------------------------ http://www.facebook.com/theupgradepodcast ------------------------ http://www.instagram.com/theupgradepodcast ------------------------
For a Halloween special episode, listen along to the spooky short story "The Pale Man" by Julius Long. Enjoy and happy holidays! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/storiesretoldpodcast/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/storiesretoldpodcast/support
There’s something irresistible about the new guy in town. The Pale Man by Julius Long read by Katie Carolan audio production by Frank Hablawi and [...]
This episode is a deadly buffet of horrific delights! Join Travis, Ricky and for a brief period Angel, as they toss a few shout outs, cover some metal recommendations, feature the creature of folklore and legend: the ogre, and perform a Midnight Ritual of Pan's Labyrinth! Poltergeist OD Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpmPZjVeuPNvvbO5RTxwQ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/poltergeist_od/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/PoltergeistOD
We finally encounter the Pale Man. Ophelia uses her five-finger discount. The rebels emerge with extra Pedro Points. All of this and more, as we conclude our review of Guillermo del Toro's "Pan's Labyrinth".All caught up and ready for more? As a Patreon Applauder, you get access to high quality unrated episodes, blog archives, and that little bit of satisfaction in knowing you're helping us grow that amazing shock value into something much larger.Visit https://www.patreon.com/shockedandapplaud for more details on becoming an Applauder!Support the show
It's time to turn off the lights, dig into that bucket of popcorn, and have the bejeezus scared out of you by the modern-day Man of 1,000 Faces, Doug Jones! That's right! We're joined this week by the incomparable Doug Jones, who has brought to life characters such as Abe Sapien (Hellboy and Hellboy II), the Pale Man and the Fawn (Pan's Labyrinth), the Silver Surfer (Fantastic Four), Billy Butcherson (Hocus Pocus), Cochise (Falling Skies), and the most frightening villain from Buffy The Vampire Slayer.
Welcome to the world of Shadowvane, a place where the horrific and frightening reside. We are a podcast in the same vein as the classic radio dramas of the ‘30s and ‘40s. We hope to offer an experience similar to the classic War of the Worlds or modern storytelling examples in podcasts like Welcome to Night Vale, Sayer, or We're Alive.This week we are taking a break from our current story, Progenix Labs, to bring you a classic tale of terror by Julius Long. His story "The Pale Man" was published in Volume 24, Issue 3 of Weird Tales and can be found online at http://http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Weird_Tales/Volume_24/Issue_3/The_Pale_Man. We hope you enjoy the story.We will release new episodes twice a month on the 1st and 15th. Episode 6 of Progenix Labs will release on January 15th.Please let us know your thoughts! E-mail us at Shadowvanecast@gmail.com, like us on Facebook at facebook.com/shadowvanecast, or follow us on Twitter @Shadowvanecast.