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Republicans are preparing to tear up America's clean energy tax credits as part of their budget reconciliation megabill. Hollowing out those policies will have sweeping implications for the country's energy system — it could set back solar, nuclear, and geothermal development; bring less electricity supply onto the grid; and devastate the country's fledgling electric vehicle supply chain. A new report — written by our own Jesse Jenkins — is all about the real-life consequences of killing the tax credits. On this week's episode of Shift Key, Jesse shares the forthcoming analysis of the bill from Princeton University's REPEAT Project. Rob and Jesse discuss what best-in-class modeling tells us the bill will mean for carbon emissions, the energy economy, the power grid, and consumer energy costs. Shift Key is hosted by Jesse Jenkins, a professor of energy systems engineering at Princeton University, and Robinson Meyer, Heatmap's executive editor.Mentioned:New REPEAT Project report on the GOP reconciliation billHow a House GOP Proposal Would Essentially Gut the IRA's Biggest Tax CreditsWhy it's a problem for the clean energy tax credits to lose transferabilityWhy mortality can fall during recessions: clean airThe natural gas turbine crisisJesse's upshift; Rob's downshift.--Music for Shift Key is by Adam Kromelow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The fight over the Inflation Reduction Act has arrived. After months of discussion, the Republican majority in the House is now beginning to write, review, and argue about its plans to transform the climate law's energy tax provisions. We wanted to record a show about how to follow that battle. But then — halfway through recording that episode — the Republican-controlled House Ways and Means Committee dropped the first draft of their proposal to gut the IRA, and we had to review it on-air. We were joined by Luke Bassett, a former senior advisor for domestic climate policy at the U.S. Treasury Department, and a former senior staff member at the Senate Committee on Energy and Natural Resources. We chatted about the major steps in the reconciliation process, what to watch next, and what to look for in the new GOP draft. Shift Key is hosted by Jesse Jenkins, a professor of energy systems engineering at Princeton University, and Robinson Meyer, Heatmap's executive editor.Mentioned:The House GOP Tax Proposal Would Effectively Kill The IRAPermitting Reform Is Back — and Buried in Trump's Tax BillThe House Ways and Means Committee's first attempt at rewriting the IRA and its energy tax provisions(Note: At one point, Luke refers to a permitting reform proposal as coming from the Energy and Commerce Committee. It's a product of the House Natural Resources Committee.) --​Music for Shift Key is by Adam Kromelow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Last week, more than 50 million people across mainland Spain and Portugal suffered a blackout that lasted more than 10 hours and shuttered stores, halted trains, and dealt more than $1 billion in economic damage. At least eight deaths have been attributed to the power outage.Almost immediately, some commentators blamed the blackout on the large share of renewables on the Iberian peninsula's power grid. Are they right? How does the number of big, heavy, spinning objects on the grid affect grid operators' ability to keep the lights on? On this week's episode of Shift Key, Jesse and Rob dive into what may have caused the Iberian blackout — as well as how grid operators manage supply and demand, voltage and frequency, and renewables and thermal resources, and operate the continent-spanning machine that is the power grid. Shift Key is hosted by Robinson Meyer, the founding executive editor of Heatmap, and Jesse Jenkins, a professor of energy systems engineering at Princeton University.Mentioned: Spain's Blackout Has Put in Motion a Debate Over InertiaSpain Discloses New Power Grid Failure on Day of the BlackoutShift Key: A Beginner's Guide to the Interconnection QueueJesse's upshift; Rob's upshift.--Music for Shift Key is by Adam Kromelow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Texas is one of the country's biggest producers of zero-emissions energy. Last year, the Lone Star State surpassed California to become the country's No. 1 market for utility-scale solar. More solar and batteries were added to the Texas grid in 2024 than any other energy source, and the state has long dominated in onshore wind.But that buildout is now threatened. A new tranche of bills in the Texas House and Senate could impose punitive engineering requirements on wind, solar, and storage plants — even those already in operation — and they could send the state's power bills soaring.Doug Lewin is the founder and CEO of Stoic Energy Partners in Austin, Texas. He writes the Texas Energy and Power Newsletter, and he is the host of the Energy Capital podcast. On this week's episode of Shift Key, Jesse and Rob talk with Doug about how Texas became a clean energy powerhouse, how it has dealt with eye-watering demand power growth, and why a handful of bills in the Texas statehouse could break its electricity market. Shift Key is hosted by Robinson Meyer, the founding executive editor of Heatmap, and Jesse Jenkins, a professor of energy systems engineering at Princeton University.Mentioned: A round-up of the anti-renewables bills now in TexasA map of renewables across TexasElectrifying the PermianThe economic impact of renewables & storage in TexasRural Texans speak out against SB 819How Texas consumers benefit from the renewables expansion Rob's upshift; Jesse's upshift.--Music for Shift Key is by Adam Kromelow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In just the past few years, Chinese EV-maker BYD has become the most important car company most Americans have still never heard of. It is China's biggest private employer, the world's third most valuable automaker (after Tesla and Toyota), and it's capable of producing more than 5 million cars a year. It's also just one of dozens of innovative new Chinese auto companies that are set to transform the global mobility market — regardless of what happens with Trump's tariffs. On this week's episode of Shift Key, Jesse and Rob talk with Michael Dunne, the founder of Dunne Insights and a longtime observer of the Chinese automotive sector. Dunne was president of GM Indonesia from 2013 and 2015, and was once managing director of JD Power and Associates' China division. We talk about the deep history of BYD, the five non-BYD Chinese car companies you should know, and how Western automakers could (with difficulty and a lot of policy help) eventually catch up.Shift Key is hosted by Jesse Jenkins, a professor of energy systems engineering at Princeton University, and Robinson Meyer, Heatmap's executive editor.Mentioned:Michael Dunne on BYDWhy BYD Keeps Shocking the WorldHow China Created an EV JuggernautJesse's upshift; Rob's downshift.--Music for Shift Key is by Adam Kromelow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Donald Trump has implemented what is easily the most chaotic set of American economic policies in recent memory. First, the U.S. declared a trade war on the entire world, imposing breathtaking tariffs on many of the country's biggest trading partners. He's paused that effort — but scaled up punitive tariffs on China, launching what would be the 21st century's biggest global economic realignment without any apparent plan. Now Trump says that more levies are coming on semiconductors and pharmaceuticals, no matter where we get them.All of this is a disaster for the U.S. economy — but it's also ruinous for any potential American role in decarbonization or the fight against climate change. Even more than Trump's deregulatory actions, his trade war could spell the end of a long-held U.S. decarbonization dream.On this week's episode of Shift Key, Rob and Jesse chat about what Trump's chaotic economic policy could mean for the global fight against climate change. What happens to global decarbonization if the U.S. no longer participates? If the U.S. kills its research sector, what happens next? And could China seize this moment to expand its clean tech sector? Shift Key is hosted by Jesse Jenkins, a professor of energy systems engineering at Princeton University, and Robinson Meyer, Heatmap's executive editor.Mentioned: Rob's new op-ed: Poof! There Goes America's Competitive Advantage in a Warming WorldChina's solar panel exports are increasing to the Global SouthWhy American manufacturing is so ‘disincentivized,' according to an induction stove CEOTrump's tariffs have killed off the last hope of a U.S. mining boomTrump's tariffs are terrible for the oil industryJesse's upshift; Rob's upshift.--Music for Shift Key is by Adam Kromelow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

China's industrial policy for clean energy has turned the country into a powerhouse of solar, wind, battery, and electric vehicle manufacturing. But long before the country's factories moved global markets — and invited Trump's self-destructive tariffs — the country implemented energy and technology policy to level up its domestic industry. How did those policies work? Which tools worked best? And if the United States needs to rebuild in the wake of Trump's tariffs, what should this country learn? On this week's episode of Shift Key, Rob and Jesse talk with two scholars who have been studying Chinese industrial policy since the Great Recession. Joanna Lewis is the Provost's Distinguished Associate Professor of Energy and Environment and Director of the Science, Technology and International Affairs Program at Georgetown University's School of Foreign Service. She's also the author of Green Innovation in China. John Paul Helveston is an assistant professor in engineering management and systems engineering at George Washington University. He studies consumer preferences and market demand for new technologies, as well as China's longstanding gasoline car and EV industrial policy. Shift Key is hosted by Robinson Meyer, the founding executive editor of Heatmap, and Jesse Jenkins, a professor of energy systems engineering at Princeton University.Mentioned: Jesse's downshift; Rob's midshift. --Music for Shift Key is by Adam Kromelow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The Inflation Reduction Act dedicated $27 billion to build a new kind of climate institution in America — a network of national green banks that could lend money to companies, states, schools, churches, and housing developers to build more clean energy and deploy more next-generation energy technology around the country.It was an innovative and untested program. And the Trump administration is desperately trying to block it. Since February, Trump's criminal justice appointees — led by Ed Martin, the interim U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia — have tried to use criminal law to undo the program. After failing to get the FBI and Justice Department to block the flow of funds, Trump officials have successfully gotten the program's bank partner to freeze relevant money. The new green banks have sued to gain access to the money.On this week's episode of Shift Key, Rob and Jesse talk with Kristina Costa, who has been tracking the effort to bankrupt the green banks. Costa helped lead the Inflation Reduction Act's implementation in the White House from 2022 to 2025 — and is a previous Shift Key guest. She joins us to discuss how Trump is weaponing criminal law to block a climate program, whether there's any precedent for his actions, and what could come next in the legal battle. Shift Key is hosted by Robinson Meyer, the founding executive editor of Heatmap, and Jesse Jenkins, a professor of energy systems engineering at Princeton University.Mentioned: The Hardest Working $27 Billion in the IRAHow Democrats Are Trying to Trump-Proof Their Big Climate LawWashington Post: Top-ranking career prosecutor resigns after declining to block FBI programDenise Cheung's resignation letterJesse's upshift; Rob's downshift.--Music for Shift Key is by Adam Kromelow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

If you care about decarbonizing the power grid anytime soon, you have to care about data centers. The AI boom and the ongoing growth of the internet have driven a big new cycle of data center construction in the United States, with tech companies trying to buy amounts of electricity comparable to those used by large cities. Peter Freed has seen this up close. As Meta's former director of energy strategy, he worked on clean energy procurement and data center development from 2014 to 2024. He is now a founding partner at the Near Horizon Group, where he advises investors and companies on emerging topics in data centers and advanced clean energy. On this week's episode of Shift Key, Rob and Jesse talk with Peter about whether AI and new data centers are going to blow up the grid and break decarbonization. What are the real-world constraints on developing a data center in 2025? Are tech companies beginning to run out of natural gas to burn? What do their investments in clean energy mean? And could the rise of AI prompt an accidental return to coal? Shift Key is hosted by Jesse Jenkins, a professor of energy systems engineering at Princeton University, and Robinson Meyer, Heatmap's executive editor.Mentioned: A Skeptic's Guide to AI and Energy GrowthPeter Freed and Allison Clement on how to reduce data center speculationExxon's announced plans to use CCS for data centersThe Natural Gas Turbine CrisisJesse's upshift; Rob's downshift.--Music for Shift Key is by Adam Kromelow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Republicans in Washington are pushing for at least two big changes to the country's car-related policies. In Congress, some lawmakers want to repeal the $7,500 tax credit that helps consumers buy or lease a new electric vehicle — as well as a matching tax credit that lets companies buy heavy-duty zero-carbon trucks. And at the Environmental Protection Agency, officials are trying to roll back Biden-era rules encouraging dealerships to sell more EVs through 2032. What will that mean for the climate — and for the slate of new EV and battery factories popping up around the country? On this week's episode of Shift Key, Rob and Jesse talk about new research from Jesse's lab, the REPEAT Project, about what will happen if Congress and the Trump administration get their way. What will happen to America's factory boom? How soon would the effects be felt? And would tariffs stem the bleeding at all? Shift Key is hosted by Jesse Jenkins, a professor of energy systems engineering at Princeton University, and Robinson Meyer, Heatmap's executive editor.Mentioned: The REPEAT Project's new study on repeal of the EV tax credits and EPA clean car rules 94% of Germans say they won't buy a Tesla carWSJ: How Tesla's sales are shifting across the US “Detroit killed the sedan. Trump's trade war will make them wish they hadn't.”Jesse's downshift; Rob's sorta upshift.--Music for Shift Key is by Adam Kromelow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Donald Trump's second term has now entered its second month. His administration is doing much to slow down renewables, and everything it can to slow down offshore wind. Jael Holzman is a senior reporter at Heatmap and the author of our newsletter, “The Fight,” about local battles over renewable permitting around the country. On this week's episode of Shift Key, Rob and Jesse talk to Jael about the bleak outlook for offshore wind, the use of presidential authority to impede energy development, and why solar has been spared — so far. Shift Key is hosted by Jesse Jenkins, a professor of energy systems engineering at Princeton University, and Robinson Meyer, Heatmap's executive editor.Mentioned: The FightHeatmap ProOffshore Wind Faces Its ‘Worst Case Scenario' Under TrumpTrump is targeting Dominion's Coastal Virginia offshore wind project in VirginiaA Wave of Anti-Renewables Bills Hits State LegislaturesNew York's Battery BacklashHow Bad Information Is Breaking the Energy TransitionSolar's Growing “Prime Farmland” ProblemJesse's upshift; Rob's upshift.--Music for Shift Key is by Adam Kromelow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Longtime listeners of Shift Key will recognize the name Intersolar and Energy Storage North America, one of the country's premier solar industry conferences. Shift Key was live at this year's event, hosting a panel on the present and future of the solar industry featuring a pair of marquee panelists: Tom Starrs, currently the vice president for government and public affairs at EDP Renewables, North America, who has more than 30 years of experience in the renewables industry; and Maria Robinson, until recently the director of the Department of Energy's Grid Deployment Office and now the president and CEO of the Interstate Renewable Energy Council. (Robinson is also a repeat Shift Key guest.)On this week's episode of Shift Key, Rob and Jesse talk with the panelists about the momentum propelling solar energy forward in the U.S. and whether the uncertainty created by the Trump administration could put a damper on that. Shift Key is hosted by Jesse Jenkins, a professor of energy systems engineering at Princeton University, and Robinson Meyer, Heatmap's executive editor.Mentioned:Previously: Maria Robinson on Shift KeySolar Was the Biggest Non-Loser of Trump's First DaySolar and storage lead planned new energy additions in 2025Advait Arun on the looming natural gas turbine crisisJesse's upshift; Rob's downshift.--Music for Shift Key is by Adam Kromelow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Congress is still debating the fate of the Inflation Reduction Act, but the Trump administration has already torn up energy and climate policies across the federal government. It's time to step back and try to take stock. How much damage has the Trump administration already done to decarbonization? What's most worrying? What was going to happen anyway? And what might still be saved? On this week's episode of Shift Key, Rob and Jesse go agency by agency to understand the most important changes and try to understand the deeper agenda — including potential points of incoherence or disagreement. Shift Key is hosted by Jesse Jenkins, a professor of energy systems engineering at Princeton University, and Robinson Meyer, Heatmap's executive editor.Mentioned:Trump's effort to undo the EPA endangerment findingThe incoherence of Trump's energy agendaOffshore Wind Faces Its ‘Worst Case Scenario' Under TrumpTrump's effort to block the Greenhouse Gas Reduction FundHow Tesla gets rich selling EV compliance creditsThe next front of Trump's legal war is contract lawJesse's upshift; Rob's upshift.--Music for Shift Key is by Adam Kromelow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The most important energy regulators in the United States aren't all in the federal government. Each state has its own public utility commission, a set of elected or appointed officials who regulate local power companies. This set of 200 individuals wield an enormous amount of power — they oversee 1% of U.S. GDP — but they're often outmatched by local utility lobbyists and overlooked in discussions from climate advocates. Charles Hua wants to change that. He is the founder and executive director of PowerLines, a new nonprofit engaging with America's public utility commissions about how to deliver economic growth while keeping electricity rates — and greenhouse gas emissions — low. Charles previously advised the U.S. Department of Energy on developing its grid modernization strategy and analyzed energy policy for the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory.On this week's episode of Shift Key, Rob and Jesse talk to Charles about why PUCs matter, why they might be a rare spot for progress over the next four years, and why (and how) normal people should talk to their local public utility commissioner. Shift Key is hosted by Jesse Jenkins, a professor of energy systems engineering at Princeton University, and Robinson Meyer, Heatmap's executive editor.Mentioned:PowerLinesMIT's Utility of the Future studyWho's controlling our energy future? Industry and environmental representation on United States public utility commissionsPreviously on Shift Key: How to Fix Utility Bills in AmericaRob's downshift; Jesse's downshift.--This episode of Shift Key is sponsored by …Download Heatmap Labs and Hydrostor's free report to discover the crucial role of long duration energy storage in ensuring a reliable, clean future and stable grid. Learn more about Hydrostor here.Music for Shift Key is by Adam Kromelow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

InterSolar North America is always the first ‘big' clean energy industry conference that kicks off the year! And who doesn't want to kick off the year with a trip to sunny San Diego?!To ensure you are up-to-speed on this year's event, we've curated a "Know Before You Go" episode that will help maximize your experience at InterSolar and Energy Storage North America 2025 next week!With thousands of clean energy professionals gathering at the San Diego Convention Center, this year's event is packed with new features, insightful keynotes, and exclusive networking opportunities. AND, we're proud to announce that we're an official media partner producing the popular HUB stage live on the show floor! Whether you're attending for the first time or are a trade show veteran, this episode will give you everything you need to know before you go.Tune in as we navigate the expo floor, highlight can't-miss sessions and pinpoint the must-attend after-hours events.You'll hear from:Beckie Kier – Events Director at Diversified CommunicationsCandace Letizia – Marketing Director at Diversified CommunicationsChris Crowell – Editor-in-Chief at Solar BuilderRudy Saporite – Program Director at IBTS – Institute for Building Technology and SafetyRyan Davies – Chief Commercial Officer (CCO) at Yotta EnergyIn our "Know Before You Go" episode, we cover:What's new for 2025 – Get the inside scoop on the Product Showcase, Manufacturing Pavilion, and how digital wayfinders will make navigation easier.The return of Solar Battle of the Bands – After a four-year hiatus, this iconic afterparty is back! (Pro tip: Advanced registration is sold out, but a limited number of on-site tickets will be available.)The must-attend keynotes – Hear from top energy leaders like Robinson Meyer, Jesse Jenkins, and Microsoft's Hannah Green as they tackle the future of clean energy.The Hub Stage at InterSolar – For the first time, the Hub will feature live podcast recordings and interviews in partnership with SunCast and Solar Builder Magazine. Don't miss this opportunity to hear from top industry experts on the show floor!Pro networking tips – Learn how to use the AI-powered matchmaking tool to connect with the right people and make the most of networking lunches, happy hours, and the Connection Lounge. Want to hit the ground running at InterSolar 2025? Press play now and get ready!If you still haven't purchased your ticket you're in LUCK, because you can get a 20% discount by using our super-secret code: SUNCAST at checkout or go here! Stop procrastinating and come to San Diego!If you want to connect with today's guest, you'll find links to his contact info in the show notes on the blog at https://mysuncast.com/suncast-episodes/.Our Platinum Presenting Sponsor for SunCast is CPS America!SunCast is proudly supported by Trina Solar.You can learn more about all the sponsors who help make this show free for you at www.mysuncast.com/sponsors.Remember, you can always find resources, learn more about today's guest and explore recommendations, book links, and more than 730 other founder stories and startup...

The first few weeks of the new Trump administration have seen an onslaught of anti-climate actions: an order punishing the wind industry, an attempted reversal of the Environmental Protection Administration's climate authority, and a brazen — and possibly unconstitutional — attempt to freeze all spending under Biden's climate laws. Democrats' climate legacy seems to be under assault. How will they respond? Senator Brian Schatz has represented Hawaii in the U.S. Senate since 2010. He is the chief deputy whip for the Democratic Party. A self-described climate hawk, he helped shape what became the Inflation Reduction Act, and he has emerged as an early voice of opposition to the second Trump administration. He was previously Hawaii's lieutenant governor and a state lawmaker. On this week's episode of Shift Key, Rob and Jesse talk to Schatz about congressional Democrats' plan to push back against Trump, what the clean energy needs to do for the next four years, and whether this climate backlash to Trump should be different than the last one. Shift Key is hosted by Jesse Jenkins, a professor of energy systems engineering at Princeton University, and Robinson Meyer, Heatmap's executive editor.Mentioned:The Courts Blocked Trump's Federal Funding Freeze. Agencies Are Withholding Money Anyway.How Government Grants Actually Turn Into CashJesse's downshift; Rob's upshift.--This episode of Shift Key is sponsored by …Download Heatmap Labs and Hydrostor's free report to discover the crucial role of long duration energy storage in ensuring a reliable, clean future and stable grid. Learn more about Hydrostor here.Music for Shift Key is by Adam Kromelow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Over the past 30 years, the U.S. automaking industry has transformed how it builds cars and trucks, constructing a continent-sized network of factories, machine shops, and warehouses that some call “Factory North America.” President Trump's threatened tariffs on Canadian and Mexican imports will disrupt and transform those supply chains. What will that mean for the automaking industry and the transition to EVs?Ellen Hughes-Cromwick is the former chief economist at Ford Motor Company, where she worked from 1996 to 2014, as well as the former chief economist at the U.S. Department of Commerce. She is now a senior visiting fellow at Third Way and a senior advisor at MacroPolicy Perspective LLC. On this week's episode of Shift Key, Rob and Jesse chat with Ellen about how automakers build cars today, why this system isn't built for trade barriers, and whether Trump's tariffs could counterintuitively help electric vehicles. Shift Key is hosted by Jesse Jenkins, a professor of energy systems engineering at Princeton University, and Robinson Meyer, Heatmap's executive editor.Mentioned:Trump's Tariffs are a WarningRob's downshift; Jesse's up-ish-shift.--This episode of Shift Key is sponsored by …Download Heatmap Labs and Hydrostor's free report to discover the crucial role of long duration energy storage in ensuring a reliable, clean future and stable grid. Learn more about Hydrostor here.Music for Shift Key is by Adam Kromelow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On February 1 — that is, three days from now — President Donald Trump has promised to apply a tariff of 25% to all U.S. imports from Canada and Mexico, crude oil very much not excepted. Canada has been the largest source of American crude imports for more than 20 years. More than that, the U.S. oil industry has come to depend on Canada's thick, sulfurous oil to blend with America's light, sweet domestic product to suit its highly specialized refineries. If that heavy, gunky stuff suddenly becomes a lot more expensive, so will U.S. oil refining.Rory Johnston is an oil markets analyst in Toronto. He writes the Commodity Context newsletter, a data-driven look at oil markets and commodity flows. He's also a lecturer at the University of Toronto's Munk School of Global Affairs and Public Policy and a fellow with the Canadian Global Affairs Institute and the Payne Institute for Public Policy at the Colorado School of Mines. He previously led commodities market research at Scotiabank. (And he's Canadian.)On this week's episode of Shift Key, Jesse and Jillian attempt to untangle the pile of spaghetti that is the U.S.-Canadian oil trade. Shift Key is hosted by Jesse Jenkins, a professor of energy systems engineering at Princeton University, and Jillian Goodman, Heatmap's deputy editor. Robinson Meyer is off this week.Mentioned:How the U.S. and Canadian oil industries evolved togetherJohnston on how tariffs could disrupt a finely calibrated relationshipJesse's upshift; Jillian's upshift.--This episode of Shift Key is sponsored by …Intersolar & Energy Storage North America is the premier U.S.-based conference and trade show focused on solar, energy storage, and EV charging infrastructure. To learn more, visit intersolar.us.Music for Shift Key is by Adam Kromelow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The Los Angeles wildfires have killed at least 27 people, destroyed more than 17,000 structures, and displaced tens of thousands. In the next few months, the billions of costs in damage to homes and property will ripple through the state's insurance market — and likely cause its insurer of last resort to run out of money.Benjamin Keys has studied how natural disasters, rising sea levels, and increasing exposure to risk have driven up insurance costs nationwide. He is a professor of real estate and finance at the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton School, and one of the country's top experts on climate change, home values, and insurance markets.On this week's episode of Shift Key, Rob and Jesse talk with Keys about how California broke its insurance market, why insurance costs are rising nationwide, and how homeowners, home buyers, and communities can protect themselves. They dive into President Donald Trump's dizzying first day of executive actions and how they'll affect the future of energy development. Shift Key is hosted by Robinson Meyer, the founding executive editor of Heatmap, and Jesse Jenkins, a professor of energy systems engineering at Princeton University.Mentioned: Keys' testimony to Senate budget committee about climate risks in the housing systemKeys' research on climate risk in mortgage escrow dataThis pre-wildfire reporting on California's insurance system and the site of the Eaton FireRob's downshift; Jesse's downshift.--This episode of Shift Key is sponsored by …Intersolar & Energy Storage North America is the premier U.S.-based conference and trade show focused on solar, energy storage, and EV charging infrastructure. To learn more, visit intersolar.us.Music for Shift Key is by Adam Kromelow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hydrogen. What are you even supposed to think about it? If you've spent serious time focusing on climate policy, you've heard the hype about hydrogen — about the miraculous things that it might do to eliminate carbon pollution from cars, power plants, steel mills, or more. You've also seen that hype fizzle out — even as governments have poured billions of dollars into making it work.On this week's episode of Shift Key, Rob and Jesse give you a rough guide for how to think about clean hydrogen, which could help decarbonize the industrial — even the molecular — side of the economy by storing energy and helping to make clean steel and chemicals. Do we really need hydrogen to fight climate change? Where would it be useful? And why has it failed to take off in the past? What will Trump and China mean for global hydrogen policy? Shift Key is hosted by Robinson Meyer, the founding executive editor of Heatmap, and Jesse Jenkins, a professor of energy systems engineering at Princeton University.Mentioned:How the Haber-Bosch process was transferred after WWIThere's Something for (Almost) Everyone in the Hydrogen Tax Credit RulesThe Hydrogen LadderWhy it's so hard to ship hydrogenThe hydrogen tax credit could have had unintended emission consequences — here's the study about whyJesse on why Biden's hydrogen rules are on the right trackJesse's upshift; Rob's downshift.--This episode of Shift Key is sponsored by …Intersolar & Energy Storage North America is the premier U.S.-based conference and trade show focused on solar, energy storage, and EV charging infrastructure. To learn more, visit intersolar.us.Music for Shift Key is by Adam Kromelow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

With so many confusing narratives unfolding around a fire that is still raging out of control, I wanted to talk to somebody I knew and trusted to get stories like this right. Robinson Meyer is the founder and editor of Heatmap News and a former staff writer at The Atlantic, where he covered climate news and related disasters. We talk about why this Los Angeles fire is so unusual, how it differs from most recent forest fires in California, the role of climate change, and what Los Angeles and other places can do to protect people from the inevitability of future disasters. If you have questions, observations, or ideas for future episodes, email us at PlainEnglish@Spotify.com. Host: Derek Thompson Guest: Robinson Meyer Producer: Devon Baroldi Links: Could More Controlled Burns Have Helped?  5 Startups Working on LA Fires  What Started The Fires?  Why LA's Fires Are Exceptionally Hard to Fight  Does climate change make the Santa Ana winds worse? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

China's greenhouse gas emissions were essentially flat this year — or they recorded a tiny increase, according to a recent report from the Centre for Research on Energy and Clean Air, or CREA. A third of experts surveyed by the report believe that its coal emissions have peaked. Has the world's No. 1 emitter of carbon pollution now turned a corner on climate change? Lauri Myllyvirta is the co-founder and lead analyst at CREA, an independent research organization focused on air pollution and headquartered in Finland. Myllyvirta has worked on climate policy, pollution, and energy issues in Asia for the past decade, and he lived in Beijing from 2015 to 2019. On this week's episode of Shift Key, Rob and Jesse talk with Lauri about whether China's emissions have peaked, why the country is still building so much coal power (along with gobs of solar and wind), and the energy-intensive shift that its economy has taken in the past five years. Shift Key is hosted by Robinson Meyer, the founding executive editor of Heatmap, and Jesse Jenkins, a professor of energy systems engineering at Princeton University.Mentioned:The CREA report: China's Climate Transition: Outlook 2024Chinese EV companies beat their own targets in 2024How China Created an EV JuggernautRob's upshift; Jesse's upshift.--This episode of Shift Key is sponsored by …Intersolar & Energy Storage North America is the premier U.S.-based conference and trade show focused on solar, energy storage, and EV charging infrastructure. To learn more, visit intersolar.us.Music for Shift Key is by Adam Kromelow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Happy new year! On this week's episode of Shift Key, Rob and Jesse answer some of the questions they've received from readers throughout the year. Hot topics include: What happened to the Green New Deal, and is the Inflation Reduction Act part of its legacy? Should U.S. policy prioritize solar manufacturing or solar deployment? And how can normal people keep AI-driven data centers from blowing up the grid? Shift Key is hosted by Robinson Meyer, the founding executive editor of Heatmap, and Jesse Jenkins, a professor of energy systems engineering at Princeton University.Mentioned: How vehicle-to-grid worksCarnegie Endowment report on which clean energy supply chains should be prioritizedJonathan Koomey's skeptical take on AI load growthA new pitch for off-grid solar-powered AI data centers (with gas backup)Jesse's upshift; Rob's upshift.--This episode of Shift Key is sponsored by …Intersolar & Energy Storage North America is the premier U.S.-based conference and trade show focused on solar, energy storage, and EV charging infrastructure. To learn more, visit intersolar.us.Music for Shift Key is by Adam Kromelow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The rise of artificial intelligence and the associated expansion of data centers is driving surging demand for new power supply. Earlier this fall at the annual meeting of Princeton University's Andlinger Center for Energy and the Environment, Jesse sat down with a panel of experts to discuss how society can meet the growing energy demands of AI while staying on track broader decarbonization efforts. How will we power the growing demand from AI and data centers? What role can nuclear power really play? Will AI lock us into a new generation of gas power plants? Are regulators prepared for what's coming? Jesse dives into all this and more with Allison Clements, former commissioner of the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, Matt DeNichilo, partner at energy investment firm ECP, and Lucia Tian, head of clean energy and decarbonization technologies at Google. Shift Key is hosted by Robinson Meyer, the founding executive editor of Heatmap, and Jesse Jenkins, a professor of energy systems engineering at Princeton University. Rob is off this week.Mentioned:More on the Andlinger Center for Energy and the EnvironmentPreviously on Shift Key: A Skeptic's Take on AI and Energy GrowthRob on AI and energy demand--This episode of Shift Key is sponsored by …Watershed's climate data engine helps companies measure and reduce their emissions, turning the data they already have into an audit-ready carbon footprint backed by the latest climate science. Get the sustainability data you need in weeks, not months. Learn more at watershed.com.As a global leader in PV and ESS solutions, Sungrow invests heavily in research and development, constantly pushing the boundaries of solar and battery inverter technology. Discover why Sungrow is the essential component of the clean energy transition by visiting sungrowpower.com.Music for Shift Key is by Adam Kromelow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In 2022, President Biden signed the Inflation Reduction Act, ushering in, by some estimates, nearly half a trillion dollars of investment in green energy and manufacturing. But what will happen to this huge investment as Donald Trump enters office?Jigar Shah is one of the best people to answer this question. As the director of the Loan Programs Office at the Department of Energy, he has spent his career finding new ways to finance green infrastructure. And he's more optimistic than you might expect about the road ahead.In this conversation, guest host Robinson Meyer, a contributing writer for New York Times Opinion and the founding executive editor of Heatmap News, asks Shah for a progress check on decarbonization. They discuss what has changed about the economics and financing of clean energy; what has worked well in the green energy transition, as well as the trade-offs it has entailed; and what may or may not change as Trump enters office.Book Recommendations:Fooled by Randomness by Nassim Nicholas TalebWhat If We Get It Right? by Ayana Elizabeth JohnsonRomney by McKay CoppinsThoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com.You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.This episode of “The Ezra Klein Show” was produced by Rollin Hu [Who]. Fact-checking by Michelle Harris, with Mary Marge Locker and Kate Sinclair. Mixing by Isaac Jones, with Efim Shapiro and Aman Sahota. Our supervising editor is Claire Gordon. The show's production team also includes Elias Isquith, Kristin Lin and Jack McCordick. Original music by Pat McCusker. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

Jennifer Granholm has long been one of the most interesting figures in the Democratic Party. A former federal prosecutor, she was the governor of Michigan from 2003 to 2011, leading the state during the Great Recession and subsequent auto bailout. Since 2021, she has been the 16th U.S. Secretary of Energy. While there, she has overseen the department's transformation from an R&D-focused agency to an aspiring engine of industrial strategy. On this week's episode of Shift Key, Rob sits down with Secretary Granholm in person in New York to conduct an exit interview, of sorts. What climate policies is she most proud of — and what does she hope Democrats do better next time? What does she wish that Democrats understood about fossil fuels? And what does she think the outlook for clean energy is in the years to come? Shift Key is hosted by Robinson Meyer, the founding executive editor of Heatmap, and Jesse Jenkins, a professor of energy systems engineering at Princeton University. Jesse is off this week.Mentioned: Biden's long game on climate change, by RobThe DOE's Earthshots initiativesThe DOE's new Office of Technology Transitions and its liftoff reportsA Governor's Story, by Jennifer GranholmAnd here's a transcript of the episode--This episode of Shift Key is sponsored by …Watershed's climate data engine helps companies measure and reduce their emissions, turning the data they already have into an audit-ready carbon footprint backed by the latest climate science. Get the sustainability data you need in weeks, not months. Learn more at watershed.com.As a global leader in PV and ESS solutions, Sungrow invests heavily in research and development, constantly pushing the boundaries of solar and battery inverter technology. Discover why Sungrow is the essential component of the clean energy transition by visiting sungrowpower.com.Music for Shift Key is by Adam Kromelow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The Chinese electric automaker BYD is entering a new stage in its history. Last month, it sold more than half a million electric vehicles and plug-in hybrids. BYD has already shipped more cars this year than Ford and Honda, and it is fast coming for Volkswagen, GM, and Toyota's crowns as the world's three largest automakers.Earlier this year, Rob and Jesse spoke with Ilaria Mazzocco, a senior fellow with the Trustee Chair in Chinese Business and Economics at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, D.C. She has watched China's EV industry grow from a small regional experiment into a planet-reshaping juggernaut. On this week's episode of Shift Key, we're re-running that conversation — one of our favorites ever to happen on the show. We'll be back with a new episode next week.Shift Key is hosted by Robinson Meyer, the founding executive editor of Heatmap, and Jesse Jenkins, a professor of energy systems engineering at Princeton University.Mentioned:Why Ford and GM are scared of Chinese electric carsPresident Biden's announcement of new tariffs on Chinese EVs.The EU's lower tariffs on Chinese EVsTrouble for Gotion's Michigan plantRob on the Biden administration's China thoughtRob's upshift.--This episode of Shift Key is sponsored by …Watershed's climate data engine helps companies measure and reduce their emissions, turning the data they already have into an audit-ready carbon footprint backed by the latest climate science. Get the sustainability data you need in weeks, not months. Learn more at watershed.com.As a global leader in PV and ESS solutions, Sungrow invests heavily in research and development, constantly pushing the boundaries of solar and battery inverter technology. Discover why Sungrow is the essential component of the clean energy transition by visiting sungrowpower.com.Intersolar & Energy Storage North America is the premier U.S.-based conference and trade show focused on solar, energy storage, and EV charging infrastructure. To learn more, visit intersolar.us.Music for Shift Key is by Adam Kromelow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The Inflation Reduction Act, President Joe Biden's landmark climate law, is the biggest investment in clean energy in American history. It is also in danger. In January, the Trump administration and a GOP Congress will take over the federal government — and they have made a variety of promises about how they'll disrupt the law, ranging from full repeal to a more “surgical” reform approach.On this week's episode of Shift Key, Rob and Jesse talk with Kristina Costa, who has worked since 2022 to implement the IRA's climate provisions at the White House. She joins us to discuss what went right about the Biden administration's rush to implement the law, why state government capacity is holding back Democratic policy goals, and why the federal government needs more tools to support energy innovation if it wants to keep up with China. She also discusses how the administration is trying to Trump-proof the law. Shift Key is hosted by Robinson Meyer, the founding executive editor of Heatmap, and Jesse Jenkins, a professor of energy systems engineering at Princeton University.Mentioned: Biden has obligated more than $100 billion in IRA grantsThe administration's three big tax credit goals by the end of the year: hydrogen, advanced manufacturing, and technology-neutral clean electricityJesse's upshift; Rob's upshift. (And here's what's 250 miles from three cities: Newark, Chicago, Las Vegas.)--This episode of Shift Key is sponsored by …Watershed's climate data engine helps companies measure and reduce their emissions, turning the data they already have into an audit-ready carbon footprint backed by the latest climate science. Get the sustainability data you need in weeks, not months. Learn more at watershed.com.As a global leader in PV and ESS solutions, Sungrow invests heavily in research and development, constantly pushing the boundaries of solar and battery inverter technology. Discover why Sungrow is the essential component of the clean energy transition by visiting sungrowpower.com.Intersolar & Energy Storage North America is the premier U.S.-based conference and trade show focused on solar, energy storage, and EV charging infrastructure. To learn more, visit intersolar.us.Music for Shift Key is by Adam Kromelow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It's been a news-filled few weeks — so it's time for a roundup. On this week's episode of Shift Key, Rob and Jesse talk about what Trump's cabinet selections might mean for his climate policy and whether permitting reform could still happen. Then Rob chats with Corey Cantor, senior EV analyst at BloombergNEF, about promising Q3 sales for U.S. automakers, General Motors' turnaround, and how much the Trump administration might dent America's EV uptake. Shift Key is hosted by Robinson Meyer, the founding executive editor of Heatmap, and Jesse Jenkins, a professor of energy systems engineering at Princeton University.Mentioned: Heatmap: Trump's pick for Energy Secretary is a big league fracking executiveChris Wright's 2023 speech to the American Conservation Coalition, a GOP-aligned youth climate groupWhat we know about Trump's “whole of government” approach to energyHeatmap: Trump's OMB Pick Wants to Purge the Government of ‘Climate Fanaticism'California could replace the EV tax credit, but Tesla would be excludedEV sales hit a record high in the U.S. in Q3Jesse's midshift; Rob's upshift.--This episode of Shift Key is sponsored by …Watershed's climate data engine helps companies measure and reduce their emissions, turning the data they already have into an audit-ready carbon footprint backed by the latest climate science. Get the sustainability data you need in weeks, not months. Learn more at watershed.com.As a global leader in PV and ESS solutions, Sungrow invests heavily in research and development, constantly pushing the boundaries of solar and battery inverter technology. Discover why Sungrow is the essential component of the clean energy transition by visiting sungrowpower.com.Intersolar & Energy Storage North America is the premier U.S.-based conference and trade show focused on solar, energy storage, and EV charging infrastructure. To learn more, visit intersolar.us.Music for Shift Key is by Adam Kromelow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Here's the bad news: The world is almost certainly going to miss the Paris Agreement's goal of keeping global temperatures from rising beyond 1.5 degrees Celsius over pre-industrial levels. The needed emissions cuts are too large and the direction of policy too slow to lead to any other outcome. In the next few decades, global warming will slip past the 1.5 degree mark — and temperatures will keep rising.What does that mean? What comes next? And how should we feel about that? On this week's episode of Shift Key, Rob and Jesse chat with Kate Marvel, an associate research scientist at Columbia University and the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies. We talk about why every 10th of a degree matters in the fight against climate change, the difference between tipping points and destabilizing feedback loops, and how to think about climate change in a disappointing time. Shift Key is hosted by Robinson Meyer, the founding executive editor of Heatmap, and Jesse Jenkins, a professor of energy systems engineering at Princeton University.Mentioned: The UN Environmental Program's emissions gap reportThe IPCC's monumental report on the risks of 1.5C of temperature riseJesse's post-Trump op-ed: Trump Is Not the End of the Climate FightRob's piece from 2023 on the “end of climate science”Trump's Energy Secretary-designate Chris Wright's speech at the American Conservation Coalition SummitJesse's downshift; Rob's upshift. --This episode of Shift Key is sponsored by …Watershed's climate data engine helps companies measure and reduce their emissions, turning the data they already have into an audit-ready carbon footprint backed by the latest climate science. Get the sustainability data you need in weeks, not months. Learn more at watershed.com.As a global leader in PV and ESS solutions, Sungrow invests heavily in research and development, constantly pushing the boundaries of solar and battery inverter technology. Discover why Sungrow is the essential component of the clean energy transition by visiting sungrowpower.com.Intersolar & Energy Storage North America is the premier U.S.-based conference and trade show focused on solar, energy storage, and EV charging infrastructure. To learn more, visit intersolar.us.Music for Shift Key is by Adam Kromelow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The rollbacks are coming. Donald Trump's incoming administration is expected to pull the United States out of the Paris Agreement, weaken the Environmental Protection Agency's rules for power plants and tailpipe pollution, and — potentially — rewrite or repeal big swaths of the Inflation Reduction Act. Each of those actions would seem to provide an opening for the world's No. 1 polluter — China — to assert global leadership and zip ahead in the next generation of clean energy technology.How will it respond? On this week's episode of Shift Key, Rob and Jesse chat with Jeremy Wallace, the A. Doak Barnett Professor of China Studies at Johns Hopkins University. Wallace, a Heatmap contributor, helps us understand how China is thinking about Trump, the current state of China's economy, and why China sometimes flexes its climate leadership — but just as often doesn't. Shift Key is hosted by Robinson Meyer, the founding executive editor of Heatmap, and Jesse Jenkins, a professor of energy systems engineering at Princeton University.Mentioned: Jeremy Wallace on how China will respond to U.S. reversalsJeremy's writing on China, clean energy, and tradeRob on how the Biden administration thought about China and clean energy The Draghi report: EU competitiveness: Looking ahead--This episode of Shift Key is sponsored by …Watershed's climate data engine helps companies measure and reduce their emissions, turning the data they already have into an audit-ready carbon footprint backed by the latest climate science. Get the sustainability data you need in weeks, not months. Learn more at watershed.com.As a global leader in PV and ESS solutions, Sungrow invests heavily in research and development, constantly pushing the boundaries of solar and battery inverter technology. Discover why Sungrow is the essential component of the clean energy transition by visiting sungrowpower.com.Intersolar & Energy Storage North America is the premier U.S.-based conference and trade show focused on solar, energy storage, and EV charging infrastructure. To learn more, visit intersolar.us.Music for Shift Key is by Adam Kromelow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Last night, Donald Trump secured a second term in the White House. He campaigned on an aggressively pro-fossil -fuel agenda, promising to repeal the Inflation Reduction Act, Biden's landmark 2022 climate law, and roll back Environmental Protection Agency rules governing power plant and car and truck pollution.On this week's episode of Shift Key, Jesse and Rob pick through the results of the election and try to figure out where climate advocates go from here. What will Trump 2.0 mean for the federal government's climate policy? Did climate policies notch any wins at the state level on Tuesday night? And where should decarbonization advocates focus their energy in the months and years to come? Shift Key is hosted by Robinson Meyer, the founding executive editor of Heatmap, and Jesse Jenkins, a professor of energy systems engineering at Princeton University.Mentioned: Rob's post-election story: Trump Won. Now the Fight Over the Clean Energy Economy Begins.Heatmap's rundown of climate election results around the countryHow clean energy stocks are faring post-Trump's win--This episode of Shift Key is sponsored by …Watershed's climate data engine helps companies measure and reduce their emissions, turning the data they already have into an audit-ready carbon footprint backed by the latest climate science. Get the sustainability data you need in weeks, not months. Learn more at watershed.com.As a global leader in PV and ESS solutions, Sungrow invests heavily in research and development, constantly pushing the boundaries of solar and battery inverter technology. Discover why Sungrow is the essential component of the clean energy transition by visiting sungrowpower.com.Intersolar & Energy Storage North America is the premier U.S.-based conference and trade show focused on solar, energy storage, and EV charging infrastructure. To learn more, visit intersolar.us.Music for Shift Key is by Adam Kromelow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It's all happening. The presidential election is a week away, and our cohost Jesse Jenkins is back from vacation. There is so much to talk about in the world of decarbonization and energy. So we tried to catch up on all of it. Are EV sales starting to rebound in the U.S.? What's up with the Cybertruck? And what about Senator Joe Manchin's permitting reform bill? On this week's episode of Shift Key, Jesse and Rob attempt to discuss all those questions and more. Peak oil demand — the IRA's focus on manufacturing — the emerging political economy of decarbonization — we hit it all. Or we try to, at least. Shift Key is hosted by Robinson Meyer, the founding executive editor of Heatmap, and Jesse Jenkins, a professor of energy systems engineering at Princeton University.Mentioned: Q3 EV sales; GM beats expectationsIs Tesla struggling to convert Cybertruck preorders? Jesse was wrong about Cybertruck sales: Exhibit 1, Exhibit 2The IEA projects peak demand for fossil fuels.The importance of local PUC electionsNew York's hydrogen hub is on iceJesse's upshift; Rob's upshift.--This episode of Shift Key is sponsored by …Watershed's climate data engine helps companies measure and reduce their emissions, turning the data they already have into an audit-ready carbon footprint backed by the latest climate science. Get the sustainability data you need in weeks, not months. Learn more at watershed.com.As a global leader in PV and ESS solutions, Sungrow invests heavily in research and development, constantly pushing the boundaries of solar and battery inverter technology. Discover why Sungrow is the essential component of the clean energy transition by visiting sungrowpower.com.Intersolar & Energy Storage North America is the premier U.S.-based conference and trade show focused on solar, energy storage, and EV charging infrastructure. To learn more, visit intersolar.us.Music for Shift Key is by Adam Kromelow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Over the past two months, the country's biggest tech companies have announced a flurry of deals with advanced and conventional nuclear companies. At the same time, Democratic candidates running for federal office — including Kamala Harris and a handful of Senate candidates — have touted their support of building new nuclear power plants. Has nuclear's moment finally arrived?On this week's episode of Shift Key, we have Josh Freed, the senior vice president of Third Way's climate and energy program, discussing why nuclear might be about to boom, why Democrats are embracing nuclear, and whether a Trump administration could derail the investments. This episode of Shift Key is hosted by Robinson Meyer, the founding executive editor of Heatmap, and Jillian Goodman, Heatmap's deputy editor. Shift Key co-host Jesse Jenkins, a professor of energy systems engineering at Princeton University, is out this week.Mentioned: What Makes Amazon's Big Nuclear Deal DifferentMicrosoft's Mega Deal Is a Massive Victory for Nuclear PowerGoogle's deal with Kairos EnergyDemocrats Embrace Nuclear Power In Heated Senate Races, by Alexander KaufmanJillian's upshift/downshift, Rob's upshift.--This episode of Shift Key is sponsored by …Watershed's climate data engine helps companies measure and reduce their emissions, turning the data they already have into an audit-ready carbon footprint backed by the latest climate science. Get the sustainability data you need in weeks, not months. Learn more at watershed.com.As a global leader in PV and ESS solutions, Sungrow invests heavily in research and development, constantly pushing the boundaries of solar and battery inverter technology. Discover why Sungrow is the essential component of the clean energy transition by visiting sungrowpower.com.Intersolar & Energy Storage North America is the premier U.S.-based conference and trade show focused on solar, energy storage, and EV charging infrastructure. To learn more, visit intersolar.us.Music for Shift Key is by Adam Kromelow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

What's next for the Biden administration — and for climate policy in the United States? Should Democrats negotiate with Republicans over permitting reform, even if it means making concessions to fossil fuel interests? And how should the country's trade policy handle the problem of carbon pollution? On this week's episode of Shift Key, Rob speaks with Ali Zaidi, the national climate advisor to President Joe Biden. Zaidi leads the White House Climate Policy Office, which coordinates domestic climate policy across federal agencies. Before joining the White House in 2021, Zaidi was the state of New York's deputy secretary for energy and environment. This interview was recorded live on October 10 in New Haven, Connecticut, at the Yale Clean Energy Conference. Shift Key is hosted by Robinson Meyer, the founding executive editor of Heatmap, and Jesse Jenkins, a professor of energy systems engineering at Princeton University. Jesse is out this week.Mentioned: Rob on housing policy as climate policyHydrogen Tax Credit Rules Will Be Done by the End of the YearRob's upshift, and his other upshift.--This episode of Shift Key is sponsored by …Watershed's climate data engine helps companies measure and reduce their emissions, turning the data they already have into an audit-ready carbon footprint backed by the latest climate science. Get the sustainability data you need in weeks, not months. Learn more at watershed.com.As a global leader in PV and ESS solutions, Sungrow invests heavily in research and development, constantly pushing the boundaries of solar and battery inverter technology. Discover why Sungrow is the essential component of the clean energy transition by visiting sungrowpower.com.Intersolar & Energy Storage North America is the premier U.S.-based conference and trade show focused on solar, energy storage, and EV charging infrastructure. To learn more, visit intersolar.us.Music for Shift Key is by Adam Kromelow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

How can you fight climate change in your daily life? Last month, Heatmap published our attempt at answering that question: Called Decarbonize Your Life, it's a series of stories and guides to help you make decisions that nudge the energy system away from fossil fuels. We consulted studies, ran our own analysis (with help from some friends), and used our expert judgment to arrive at six big, high-leverage actions you can take to fight climate change.On this week's episode of Shift Key, Jesse and Rob speak with Heatmap's deputy editor Jillian Goodman and founding staff writer Emily Pontecorvo about what those actions are, how the guide came together, and why big choices matter so much more than small ones. Shift Key is hosted by Robinson Meyer, the founding executive editor of Heatmap, and Jesse Jenkins, a professor of energy systems engineering at Princeton University.Mentioned: Decarbonize Your LifeQuantifying the potential for climate change mitigation of consumption optionsEmily on WattTime's work with AppleEmily on heat pumpsJillian on the climate food rulesRob on switching to an EVRob and Emily on why we don't include flyingJesse's downshift (sorta); Rob's upshift.--This episode of Shift Key is sponsored by …Watershed's climate data engine helps companies measure and reduce their emissions, turning the data they already have into an audit-ready carbon footprint backed by the latest climate science. Get the sustainability data you need in weeks, not months. Learn more at watershed.com.As a global leader in PV and ESS solutions, Sungrow invests heavily in research and development, constantly pushing the boundaries of solar and battery inverter technology. Discover why Sungrow is the essential component of the clean energy transition by visiting sungrowpower.com.Intersolar & Energy Storage North America is the premier U.S.-based conference and trade show focused on solar, energy storage, and EV charging infrastructure. To learn more, visit intersolar.us.Music for Shift Key is by Adam Kromelow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This is a special Hurricane Helene edition of Shift Key. Our regular programming will resume next week.Nearly a week after Hurricane Helene made landfall, we are still coming to terms with the scale of its destruction. The storm killed at least 182 people, making it the deadliest cyclone to make landfall in the continental United States since Katrina. From Tampa Bay to Asheville, North Carolina, it caused the worst hurricane-related damage in a century.Why was Hurricane Helene so bad? Why did it cause such horrible flooding in western North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Georgia? And did climate change have anything to do with its destruction? To answer these questions, Rob and Jesse speak with Gabriel Vecchi, a Princeton geoscientist and one of the world's top experts on hurricanes and climate change. Shift Key is hosted by Robinson Meyer is the founding executive editor of Heatmap, and Jesse Jenkins is a professor of energy systems engineering at Princeton University.Mentioned: Vecchi's study on how hurricanes will get wetter as the climate warms An early attribution study on Hurricane Helene and climate changeThe Wall Street Journal: Why Helene Devastated an Area So Far InlandThe Average U.S. Hurricane Kills 7,000 to 11,000 PeopleIn terms of organizations on the ground, we like World Central Kitchen and the North Carolina Disaster Relief Fund.--This episode of Shift Key is sponsored by …Watershed's climate data engine helps companies measure and reduce their emissions, turning the data they already have into an audit-ready carbon footprint backed by the latest climate science. Get the sustainability data you need in weeks, not months. Learn more at watershed.com.As a global leader in PV and ESS solutions, Sungrow invests heavily in research and development, constantly pushing the boundaries of solar and battery inverter technology. Discover why Sungrow is the essential component of the clean energy transition by visiting sungrowpower.com.Intersolar & Energy Storage North America is the premier U.S.-based conference and trade show focused on solar, energy storage, and EV charging infrastructure. To learn more, visit intersolar.us.Music for Shift Key is by Adam Kromelow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In just over a month, America will elect hundreds of thousands of people to state, county, and municipal offices. While those elections might lack the splashiness of the race for the White House or Congress, they could shape how and whether the United States fights climate change. So which elections matter most?On this week's episode of Shift Key, Jesse and Rob speak with Caroline Spears, the executive director of Climate Cabinet, a group that tries to do ‘Moneyball for climate policy,' analyzing the races that could matter most for the country's decarbonization. A winner of the Grist 50 award, Spears formerly worked in the solar industry and now leads the growing organization. We dive into which offices have the most sway role over adaptation and mitigation and which races deserve your attention in 2024. Shift Key is hosted by Robinson Meyer, the founding executive editor of Heatmap, and Jesse Jenkins, a professor of energy systems engineering at Princeton University.Mentioned: Climate CabinetRob's upshift, Jesse's downshift.--This episode of Shift Key is sponsored by …Watershed's climate data engine helps companies measure and reduce their emissions, turning the data they already have into an audit-ready carbon footprint backed by the latest climate science. Get the sustainability data you need in weeks, not months. Learn more at watershed.com.As a global leader in PV and ESS solutions, Sungrow invests heavily in research and development, constantly pushing the boundaries of solar and battery inverter technology. Discover why Sungrow is the essential component of the clean energy transition by visiting sungrowpower.com.Intersolar & Energy Storage North America is the premier U.S.-based conference and trade show focused on solar, energy storage, and EV charging infrastructure. To learn more, visit intersolar.us.Music for Shift Key is by Adam Kromelow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It's potentially one of the most important — but least understood — provisions in the Inflation Reduction Act, and it's finally out in the world. Last month, the Environmental Protection Agency spent $27 billion to set up new green banks across the country. These new lending institutions could direct billions of dollars to supercharging decarbonization, financing new solar farms, geothermal projects, EV chargers, and more. They'll also recycle their funding indefinitely, meaning they will likely last longer than any other provision in the law. On this week's show, Rob and Jesse bring you a user's guide to these new green banks and what they might mean for decarbonization. The episode features two conversations: First, Rob speaks with Jahi Wise, the former director for the Greenhouse Gas Reduction Fund program at the Environmental Protection Agency. Second, Rob and Jesse chat with Dawn Lippert, the founder and CEO of Elemental Impact, a climate tech investment and nonprofit organization. Shift Key is hosted by Robinson Meyer, the founding executive editor of Heatmap, and Jesse Jenkins, a professor of energy systems engineering at Princeton University.Mentioned: The EPA's $27 billion GGRF announcementThe three big new green banks: Climate United, Coalition for Green Capital, Power Forward CommunitiesElemental's $100 million in new funding from GGRFJesse's upshift (and the new facility in Flint, Michigan); Rob's upshift.--This episode of Shift Key is sponsored by …Watershed's climate data engine helps companies measure and reduce their emissions, turning the data they already have into an audit-ready carbon footprint backed by the latest climate science. Get the sustainability data you need in weeks, not months. Learn more at watershed.com.As a global leader in PV and ESS solutions, Sungrow invests heavily in research and development, constantly pushing the boundaries of solar and battery inverter technology. Discover why Sungrow is the essential component of the clean energy transition by visiting sungrowpower.com.Antenna Group helps you connect with customers, policymakers, investors, and strategic partners to influence markets and accelerate adoption. Visit antennagroup.com to learn more.Music for Shift Key is by Adam Kromelow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Geothermal is getting closer to the big time. Last week, Fervo Energy — arguably the country's leading enhanced geothermal company — announced that its Utah demonstration project had achieved record production capacity. On the whole, enhanced geothermal — which borrows drilling techniques from the oil and gas industry — seems poised to become a player on America's coming clean, 24/7 power grid. Why is geothermal so hot? How soon could it appear — and what advantages does it have other zero-carbon technologies don't? On this week's episode, Rob and Jesse speak with Sarah Jewett, the vice president of strategy at Fervo Energy, which she joined after several years in the oil and gas industry. Wilson Ricks is a doctoral student of mechanical and aerospace engineering at Princeton University, where he studies macro-energy systems modeling. Shift Key is hosted by Robinson Meyer, the founding executive editor of Heatmap, and Jesse Jenkins, a professor of energy systems engineering at Princeton University.Mentioned: Fervo's Tech Day announcementThe Department of Energy's Pathways to Commercial Liftoff: Next-Generation Geothermal reportWilson's preprint paper on flexible geothermal in Nature Energy Is Geothermal About to Become the Solar of the 2020s?Jesse's upshift, Rob's upshift.--This episode of Shift Key is sponsored by …Watershed's climate data engine helps companies measure and reduce their emissions, turning the data they already have into an audit-ready carbon footprint backed by the latest climate science. Get the sustainability data you need in weeks, not months. Learn more at watershed.com.As a global leader in PV and ESS solutions, Sungrow invests heavily in research and development, constantly pushing the boundaries of solar and battery inverter technology. Discover why Sungrow is the essential component of the clean energy transition by visiting sungrowpower.com.Antenna Group helps you connect with customers, policymakers, investors, and strategic partners to influence markets and accelerate adoption. Visit antennagroup.com to learn more.Music for Shift Key is by Adam Kromelow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Maybe you've never heard of it. Maybe you know it too well. But to a certain type of clean energy wonk, it amounts to perhaps the three most dreaded words in climate policy: the interconnection queue. The queue is the process by which utilities decide which wind and solar farms get to hook up to the power grid in the United States. Across much of the country, it has become so badly broken and clogged that it can take more than a decade for a given project to navigate. On this week's episode of Shift Key, Jesse and Rob speak with two experts about how to understand — and how to fix — what is perhaps the biggest obstacle to deploying more renewables on the U.S. power grid. Tyler Norris is a doctoral student at Duke University's Nicholas School of the Environment. Claire Wayner is a senior associate at RMI's carbon-free electricity program, where she works on the clean and competitive grids team. Shift Key is hosted by Robinson Meyer, the founding executive editor of Heatmap, and Jesse Jenkins, a professor of energy systems engineering at Princeton University.Mentioned: Tyler's study on “energy only” interconnection rulesHeatmap's Matthew Zeitlin on the big problems with PJMFERC Order 2023Advanced Energy United's report on unsnarling the gridSubscribe to Heatmap PlusRob's downshift; Jesse's upshift.--This episode of Shift Key is sponsored by …Watershed's climate data engine helps companies measure and reduce their emissions, turning the data they already have into an audit-ready carbon footprint backed by the latest climate science. Get the sustainability data you need in weeks, not months. Learn more at watershed.com.As a global leader in PV and ESS solutions, Sungrow invests heavily in research and development, constantly pushing the boundaries of solar and battery inverter technology. Discover why Sungrow is the essential component of the clean energy transition by visiting sungrowpower.com.Antenna Group helps you connect with customers, policymakers, investors, and strategic partners to influence markets and accelerate adoption. Visit antennagroup.com to learn more.Music for Shift Key is by Adam Kromelow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

You don't need us to say it: The 2024 election will have enormous stakes for America's climate policy and the planet's climate. But how well can we quantify those stakes? What would a Trump presidency — or a Harris presidency, for that matter — really mean for the country's emissions trajectory? On this week's episode of Shift Key, Jesse and Rob speak with Sonia Aggarwal, the chief executive officer of Energy Innovation, a climate policy think tank that operates across North America, Europe, and Asia. She was previously special assistant to the president for climate policy, innovation, and deployment under President Joe Biden, and she co-chaired the Biden administration's Climate Innovation Working Group. She and Jesse — another top-notch modeler — dive into what the data can and can't tell us about the election and how to think about energy system models in the first place. Shift Key is hosted by Robinson Meyer, the founding executive editor of Heatmap, and Jesse Jenkins, a professor of energy systems engineering at Princeton University.Mentioned: The REPEAT Project's annual report on U.S. emissions pathwaysEnergy Innovation's report: “The Second Half of the Decisive Decade”Jesse's upshift; Rob's upshift.--This episode of Shift Key is sponsored by …Watershed's climate data engine helps companies measure and reduce their emissions, turning the data they already have into an audit-ready carbon footprint backed by the latest climate science. Get the sustainability data you need in weeks, not months. Learn more at watershed.com.As a global leader in PV and ESS solutions, Sungrow invests heavily in research and development, constantly pushing the boundaries of solar and battery inverter technology. Discover why Sungrow is the essential component of the clean energy transition by visiting sungrowpower.com.Antenna Group helps you connect with customers, policymakers, investors, and strategic partners to influence markets and accelerate adoption. Visit antennagroup.com to learn more.Music for Shift Key is by Adam Kromelow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It's time to start talking about a big year for climate politics and policy: 2025. No matter who wins this fall's elections, next year's executive and legislative climate policy will be huge for America's decarbonization strategy. Congress is all but guaranteed to negotiate over key parts of the country's tax code, and whoever controls the White House will have to finalize the Inflation Reduction Act's last few big programs. On this week's episode of Shift Key, Jesse and Rob are joined by Josh Freed, who leads Third Way's climate and energy program, to game out the most likely scenarios. If Trump wins with a Republican Congress, will they repeal the Inflation Reduction Act? What if Trump wins but Democrats take the House? And what would Kamala Harris do with a trifecta? Shift Key is hosted by Robinson Meyer, the founding executive editor of Heatmap, and Jesse Jenkins, a professor of energy systems engineering at Princeton University.Mentioned: Jesse's article for Heatmap: Manufacturing Is Back, BabyThe IRA's Labor Provisions Look Like They're WorkingTo Win a Climate Election, Don't Say ‘Climate'Are Pollsters Getting Climate Change Wrong?What are the Trump tax cuts expiring in 2025?The $500 million grant for Ohio's Middletown WorksJesse's and Rob's downshift.--This episode of Shift Key is sponsored by …Watershed's climate data engine helps companies measure and reduce their emissions, turning the data they already have into an audit-ready carbon footprint backed by the latest climate science. Get the sustainability data you need in weeks, not months. Learn more at watershed.com.As a global leader in PV and ESS solutions, Sungrow invests heavily in research and development, constantly pushing the boundaries of solar and battery inverter technology. Discover why Sungrow is the essential component of the clean energy transition by visiting sungrowpower.com.Antenna Group helps you connect with customers, policymakers, investors, and strategic partners to influence markets and accelerate adoption. Visit antennagroup.com to learn more.Music for Shift Key is by Adam Kromelow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Democrats are gathering in Chicago this week for their quadrennial convention and to celebrate Kamala Harris's nomination for president. This year's convention will look different from 2020's for many reasons — but one of them is that we're likely to hear far less about climate change. Unlike in 2020, when President Joe Biden described global warming as one of “four overlapping crises” confronting the country, Harris has been more subtle when discussing it.So … is that a problem? Should we be freaked out? On this week's episode of Shift Key, Rob and Jesse discuss the modern electoral politics of climate change. We talk about whether the electorate's interest in climate issues has faded, how the Inflation Reduction Act could affect voting, and why a “quiet on climate” strategy might be okay. Shift Key is hosted by Robinson Meyer, the founding executive editor of Heatmap, and Jesse Jenkins, a professor of energy systems engineering at Princeton University.Mentioned: Jesse on how the IRA is actually bringing back American manufacturingRob on how housing could be Kamala's housing policyThe IRA's labor provisions look like they're workingThe Harvard Institute of Politics poll on young voters in 2024Jesse's upshift; Rob's downshift--This episode of Shift Key is sponsored by …Watershed's climate data engine helps companies measure and reduce their emissions, turning the data they already have into an audit-ready carbon footprint backed by the latest climate science. Get the sustainability data you need in weeks, not months. Learn more at watershed.com.As a global leader in PV and ESS solutions, Sungrow invests heavily in research and development, constantly pushing the boundaries of solar and battery inverter technology. Discover why Sungrow is the essential component of the clean energy transition by visiting sungrowpower.com.Antenna Group helps you connect with customers, policymakers, investors, and strategic partners to influence markets and accelerate adoption. Visit antennagroup.com to learn more.Music for Shift Key is by Adam Kromelow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Two years ago this week, President Joe Biden signed the Inflation Reduction Act, the largest investment in clean energy and climate mitigation in American history. It contained roughly two dozen new or expanded tax credits that will — if the forecasts bear out — provide hundreds of billions of dollars in funding over the next decade. The administration is now rushing to finalize those provisions before the November election. Perhaps no official has been more central to setting up those tax credits than Wally Adeyemo, the deputy secretary of the U.S. Treasury Department. He is also the Treasury's No. 2 official and chief operating officer. Adeyemo has led the agency's effort to implement the climate law, overseeing a group of tax lawyers and political appointees who are critical to the legislation's ultimate success. He joins Shift Key this week to help us kick off our second season and talk about how the effort to implement the climate law is going, what could stand in its way, and why he wants some kind of permitting reform.Shift Key is hosted by Robinson Meyer, the founding executive editor of Heatmap, and Jesse Jenkins, a professor of energy systems engineering at Princeton University.Mentioned: The First IRA Tax Credit Data Is InSenator Manchin and Senator Barrasso's permitting reform proposalWhy Energy Wonks Love the Permitting DealThe Inflation Reduction Act: A SummaryJesse's upshift, Rob's shift.--This episode of Shift Key is sponsored by …Watershed's climate data engine helps companies measure and reduce their emissions, turning the data they already have into an audit-ready carbon footprint backed by the latest climate science. Get the sustainability data you need in weeks, not months. Learn more at watershed.com.As a global leader in PV and ESS solutions, Sungrow invests heavily in research and development, constantly pushing the boundaries of solar and battery inverter technology. Discover why Sungrow is the essential component of the clean energy transition by visiting sungrowpower.com.Antenna Group helps you connect with customers, policymakers, investors, and strategic partners to influence markets and accelerate adoption. Visit antennagroup.com to learn more.Music for Shift Key is by Adam Kromelow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The world uses about 30 billion tons of concrete every year — more than any other material except water. It is the most ubiquitous human-made substance in the global economy. It's also a huge climate problem. Producing cement, which is the key ingredient in concrete, generates roughly 8% of global annual greenhouse gas emissions.Cody Finke has a plan to change that. He is the chief executive officer and cofounder of Brimstone, a startup that says it can cheaply produce ordinary Portland cement — the kind used in construction worldwide — without carbon emissions. This week, Rob chats with Finke about why cement's carbon emissions aren't from fossil fuels, why there are fewer cement plants than you might think, and the all-important difference between cement and concrete. This episode of Shift Key is hosted by Robinson Meyer, the founding executive editor of Heatmap. Jesse Jenkins is on vacation. Mentioned: BrimstoneThere Will Soon Be More Concrete Than Biomass on EarthProjecting future carbon emissions from cement production in developing countries--This episode of Shift Key is sponsored by …Watershed's climate data engine helps companies measure and reduce their emissions, turning the data they already have into an audit-ready carbon footprint backed by the latest climate science. Get the sustainability data you need in weeks, not months. Learn more at watershed.com.As a global leader in PV and ESS solutions, Sungrow invests heavily in research and development, constantly pushing the boundaries of solar and battery inverter technology. Discover why Sungrow is the essential component of the clean energy transition by visiting sungrowpower.com.Music for Shift Key is by Adam Kromelow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Shipping is the backbone of the modern economy. At least 80% of all goods worldwide are shipped as ocean cargo, and the global economy rises and falls on the free movement of gigantic ships across the sea. But container ships and bulk carriers burn what's known as bunker fuel, one of the dirtiest fossil fuels. The international shipping industry generates 3% of global carbon emissions, a proportion that's projected to rise through the century. Most proposals to decarbonize ocean freight have focused on using ammonia or other zero-carbon liquid fuels. But Fleetzero, a Bill Gates-backed startup, is trying to use the only technology that it says can get cheap enough to compete with oil: batteries. The Alabama-based company is building batteries big enough to hybridize — and, eventually, power outright — the world's largest ships. This week, Rob chats with Steven Henderson, the cofounder and CEO of Fleetzero and a graduate of the U.S. Merchant Marine Academy. They talk about Steven's history in the oil and gas industry, why batteries will beat liquid fuels, and how to put out a fire in the middle of the ocean. This episode of Shift Key is hosted by Robinson Meyer, the founding executive editor of Heatmap. Jesse Jenkins is on vacation.Mentioned:FleetzeroThe Emma Maersk, the world's largest ship at the time of its construction in 2006The legal and regulatory background on the Jones Act--This episode of Shift Key is sponsored by …Watershed's climate data engine helps companies measure and reduce their emissions, turning the data they already have into an audit-ready carbon footprint backed by the latest climate science. Get the sustainability data you need in weeks, not months. Learn more at watershed.com.As a global leader in PV and ESS solutions, Sungrow invests heavily in research and development, constantly pushing the boundaries of solar and battery inverter technology. Discover why Sungrow is the essential component of the clean energy transition by visiting sungrowpower.com.Music for Shift Key is by Adam Kromelow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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There’s a lot of buzz about a slowdown in the electric vehicle market. EV sales, while still growing, are not accelerating at the pace of just a few years ago. At the same time, EV makers from Tesla to General Motors and Ford are pushing back EV plans. So, what gives? On the show today, Robinson Meyer of Heatmap explains what’s really happening with the U.S. EV market, what it’s going to take to rev it back up, competition from China and whether moves by the Biden administration will be enough to help domestic EV producers pull ahead. Then, can robots make the meatpacking industry safer? Plus, in celebration of Monday’s solar eclipse, a planetary scientist answers the Make Me Smart question. Here’s everything we talked about today: “What happened to EVs?” from Business Insider “Opinion | China's Electric Vehicles Are Going to Hit Detroit Like a Wrecking Ball” from The New York Times “The key to growing EV adoption is cars with lower sticker prices. They may be on their way.” from Marketplace “Here Comes the Flood of Plug-In Hybrids” from Wired “How Americans view electric vehicles” from Pew Research “Tesla's Sales Drop, a Sign That Its Grip on the E.V. Market Is Slipping” from The New York Times “The U.S. Urgently Needs a Bigger Grid. Here's a Fast Solution.” from The New York Times “Meet the Robots Slicing Your Barbecue Ribs” from The Wall Street Journal “Dogs can understand the meaning of nouns, new research finds” from The Guardian We want to hear your answer to the Make Me Smart question. You can reach us at makemesmart@marketplace.org or leave us a voicemail at 508-U-B-SMART.

There’s a lot of buzz about a slowdown in the electric vehicle market. EV sales, while still growing, are not accelerating at the pace of just a few years ago. At the same time, EV makers from Tesla to General Motors and Ford are pushing back EV plans. So, what gives? On the show today, Robinson Meyer of Heatmap explains what’s really happening with the U.S. EV market, what it’s going to take to rev it back up, competition from China and whether moves by the Biden administration will be enough to help domestic EV producers pull ahead. Then, can robots make the meatpacking industry safer? Plus, in celebration of Monday’s solar eclipse, a planetary scientist answers the Make Me Smart question. Here’s everything we talked about today: “What happened to EVs?” from Business Insider “Opinion | China's Electric Vehicles Are Going to Hit Detroit Like a Wrecking Ball” from The New York Times “The key to growing EV adoption is cars with lower sticker prices. They may be on their way.” from Marketplace “Here Comes the Flood of Plug-In Hybrids” from Wired “How Americans view electric vehicles” from Pew Research “Tesla's Sales Drop, a Sign That Its Grip on the E.V. Market Is Slipping” from The New York Times “The U.S. Urgently Needs a Bigger Grid. Here's a Fast Solution.” from The New York Times “Meet the Robots Slicing Your Barbecue Ribs” from The Wall Street Journal “Dogs can understand the meaning of nouns, new research finds” from The Guardian We want to hear your answer to the Make Me Smart question. You can reach us at makemesmart@marketplace.org or leave us a voicemail at 508-U-B-SMART.