The Locked up Living Podcast

Five years ago, 2021, David Jones and Naomi Murphy began the Locked up Living podcast. Over 400 episodes later we are still going and are proud of the library of conversations we have produced with so many excellent colleagues. This is an extended version of an episode from 2021 previously shared with Dr Fiona Warren and focuses on the closing of the Henderson Hospital. The full episode with Dr Warren features a discussion about the value and meaning of research in a socio-political climate that wants to look elsewhere. This episode features Dr. Christopher Scanlon, a consultant psychotherapist with decades of experience working with complex trauma and mental health services. Chris offers a candid reflection on the evolution, challenges, and possibilities of therapeutic communities, emphasizing the importance of social and relational approaches over purely biomedical models. Key topics: The history and legacy of Henderson Hospital as a pioneering therapeutic community How group and sociotherapy approaches foster belonging, resilience, and growth Critiques of the biomedical model and the limitations of randomized controlled trials for complex social interventions The impact of societal changes, neoliberal policies, and professional rivalries on specialist services The concept of the "unhoused mind" and societal exclusion as a psychosocial phenomenon Lessons from the demise of services like Henderson and what can be learned about service design and relational capacity The importance of community, belonging, and holding space for marginalized individuals How social dynamics and professional hierarchies influence treatment and organizational culture The threat of privatization and market-driven approaches to mental health services The importance of housing, inclusion, and societal belonging in healing trauma Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction to Chris Scanlon's background and work 01:08 - The psychosocial orientation versus psychoanalytic models 02:05 - The role of group analysis and community in treatment 03:23 - Experiences working at Henderson Hospital 04:37 - The interface of community assessment and outreach 06:15 - Challenges of referral and ethical consent in high-security settings 08:11 - Critique of personality disorder label and trauma adaptation 09:37 - Systemic dysfunction and medicalization of complex trauma 11:34 - Attitudes towards difficult patients and systemic resistance 13:19 - The system's reliance on medication and lack of holistic treatment 14:17 - Iatrogenic effects and the failure of biomedical dominance 16:10 - Societal trauma, racism, exclusion, and the "unhoused" state 17:16 - Organizational culture at Henderson and peer influence 18:48 - The significance of social relationships over formal therapy 19:55 - Key moments of social connection as pivotal to healing 20:34 - The decline of sociotherapy in prison and community settings 22:39 - Hierarchies, professional identity, and relational humility 23:23 - The undervaluing of milieu and social space in treatment 24:50 - Difficulties of measuring multi-modal, relational interventions 26:54 - Challenges of evidence-based support and cost-effectiveness 29:56 - The cost benefits of residential and community-based services 32:32 - Political and professional rivalries in resource allocation 35:06 - The impact of commissioning practices on service sustainability 36:11 - Lessons from the closure of Henderson and systemic failure 38:09 - The role of community and relational trust in service efficacy 40:12 - The importance of understanding failure through political and social lenses 43:27 - The influence of market forces and privatization on service models 44:30 - The threat of profit motives and the privatization of mental health in prison 49:53 - The challenge of belonging and power in community settings 57:29 - Building capacity for creativity and resilience through social spaces 60:06 - The importance of trust, shared authority, and authentic relationships 61:52 - The culture of inquiry and the transferential space 66:14 - The significance of presence, continuity, and shared lived experience 68:42 - The concept of the "Hendo" as a transference object and community symbol 73:56 - The "unhoused mind": societal exclusion, trauma, and belonging 76:47 - Society's role in housing and trauma, and the psychosocial lens 78:35 - Broader societal issues: extremism, colonialism, and systemic injustice 80:36 - The healing power of shared community and relational space 81:12 - Personal reflections on the loss of Henderson and current gaps 81:58 - The dangers of societal disconnection and the importance of inclusive belonging

In this episode of Locked up Living, Naomi Murphy and David Jones discuss the life of Keith Grounsell, a veteran police officer with nearly 30 years of experience in the field. Keith has spent much of his career navigating the perilous world of undercover operations, infiltrating drug cartels and exposing corruption at the highest levels. Keith shares his harrowing experiences, from the adrenaline-fueled moments of deep undercover work to the psychological toll of living a double life. He explains how he balanced the constant danger with his commitment to integrity and justice, all while maintaining a strong family life. Keith opens up about the challenges of facing violent criminals, the mental strain of deception, and the sacrifices made along the way. He also discusses the importance of mental health, faith, and writing as tools for coping with trauma. This episode offers a rare glimpse into the personal and professional growth of a man dedicated to making a difference, despite the risks. Whether you're interested in law enforcement, personal development, or the impact of a high-stakes career on family life, this conversation promises to be both enlightening and inspiring. Listen to hear Keith's insights on leadership, resilience, and the ongoing fight for justice in a world fraught with danger and corruption.  keywords law enforcement, undercover operations, leadership, integrity, mental health, crime, drug trafficking, corruption, resilience, public safety  key  topics Deep undercover operations and their psychological impact Leadership challenges and integrity in law enforcement The fight against drug trafficking and organized crime    sound bites "Stress management is crucial for officers" "Undercover work is scrutinized like no other" "Integrity is the foundation of law enforcement" Chapters 00:00 Keith Grounsell: A Journey Through Undercover Work 07:32 The Psychological Toll of Undercover Operations 12:04 The Drive for Excellence and Leadership 16:58 Facing the Consequences of Law Enforcement 22:55 The Struggles of Integrity in Law Enforcement 31:59 Understanding Human Trafficking and Its Roots 33:55 The Impact of Digital Exposure on Youth 34:53 The Psychological Toll of Undercover Work 40:58 The Journey of Writing and Storytelling 45:26 Navigating Relationships Amidst Public Scrutiny 50:06 Faith, Fitness, and Mental Resilience 56:14 The Unyielding Drive for Justice 01:01:23 Ten second outro video.mp4  resources Keith Grounsell's Books - https://grounsellbooks.com/ https://igilacademy.com/   Law Enforcement Leader, Anti-Corruption Advocate, Master Instructor and AuthorWith over 26 years of leadership in law enforcement and international advisory roles, Keith Grounsell has built a career defined by integrity, resilience, and a relentless fight against corruption. As a two-time Chief of Police, former DEA Special Agent, and Senior Law Enforcement Advisor on U.S. Department of State and UN contracts, Keith has led in some of the world's most demanding environments. His leadership has resulted in criminal convictions of corrupt officials, solidifying his role as an advocate for ethical leadership.Keith's deep undercover work, captured in his A Narc's Tale book series, inspired the A&E series Undercover: Caught on Tape, offering audiences raw insights into the challenges of law enforcement. His experiences working with over 30 countries—through post-hurricanes, pandemics like Ebola, civil wars, and more—equip him to speak powerfully on leadership under pressure, crisis management, and strategic planning in unpredictable environments.A published author of eight books, Keith also consulted on an award-winning human trafficking film, underscoring his dedication to justice and human rights. As a speaker, Keith captivates audiences with topics such as leadership, ethical decision-making, perseverance, working deep undercover, human trafficking, and overcoming adversity in challenging environments.His real-world experience and passion for integrity make Keith a sought-after keynote speaker and author. Whether addressing leadership challenges, career development, or community relations, his presentations and books inspire audiences to lead with purpose and create lasting change.

In this episode of Locked up Living, Naomi Murphy and David Jones discuss the life of Keith Grounsell, a veteran police officer with nearly 30 years of experience in the field. Keith has spent much of his career navigating the perilous world of undercover operations, infiltrating drug cartels and exposing corruption at the highest levels. Keith shares his harrowing experiences, from the adrenaline-fueled moments of deep undercover work to the psychological toll of living a double life. He explains how he balanced the constant danger with his commitment to integrity and justice, all while maintaining a strong family life. Keith opens up about the challenges of facing violent criminals, the mental strain of deception, and the sacrifices made along the way. He also discusses the importance of mental health, faith, and writing as tools for coping with trauma. This episode offers a rare glimpse into the personal and professional growth of a man dedicated to making a difference, despite the risks. Whether you're interested in law enforcement, personal development, or the impact of a high-stakes career on family life, this conversation promises to be both enlightening and inspiring. Listen to hear Keith's insights on leadership, resilience, and the ongoing fight for justice in a world fraught with danger and corruption.  keywords law enforcement, undercover operations, leadership, integrity, mental health, crime, drug trafficking, corruption, resilience, public safety  key  topics Deep undercover operations and their psychological impact Leadership challenges and integrity in law enforcement The fight against drug trafficking and organized crime    sound bites "Stress management is crucial for officers" "Undercover work is scrutinized like no other" "Integrity is the foundation of law enforcement" Chapters 00:00 Keith Grounsell: A Journey Through Undercover Work 07:32 The Psychological Toll of Undercover Operations 12:04 The Drive for Excellence and Leadership 16:58 Facing the Consequences of Law Enforcement 22:55 The Struggles of Integrity in Law Enforcement 31:59 Understanding Human Trafficking and Its Roots 33:55 The Impact of Digital Exposure on Youth 34:53 The Psychological Toll of Undercover Work 40:58 The Journey of Writing and Storytelling 45:26 Navigating Relationships Amidst Public Scrutiny 50:06 Faith, Fitness, and Mental Resilience 56:14 The Unyielding Drive for Justice 01:01:23 Ten second outro video.mp4  resources Keith Grounsell's Books - https://grounsellbooks.com/ https://igilacademy.com/   Law Enforcement Leader, Anti-Corruption Advocate, Master Instructor and AuthorWith over 26 years of leadership in law enforcement and international advisory roles, Keith Grounsell has built a career defined by integrity, resilience, and a relentless fight against corruption. As a two-time Chief of Police, former DEA Special Agent, and Senior Law Enforcement Advisor on U.S. Department of State and UN contracts, Keith has led in some of the world's most demanding environments. His leadership has resulted in criminal convictions of corrupt officials, solidifying his role as an advocate for ethical leadership.Keith's deep undercover work, captured in his A Narc's Tale book series, inspired the A&E series Undercover: Caught on Tape, offering audiences raw insights into the challenges of law enforcement. His experiences working with over 30 countries—through post-hurricanes, pandemics like Ebola, civil wars, and more—equip him to speak powerfully on leadership under pressure, crisis management, and strategic planning in unpredictable environments.A published author of eight books, Keith also consulted on an award-winning human trafficking film, underscoring his dedication to justice and human rights. As a speaker, Keith captivates audiences with topics such as leadership, ethical decision-making, perseverance, working deep undercover, human trafficking, and overcoming adversity in challenging environments.His real-world experience and passion for integrity make Keith a sought-after keynote speaker and author. Whether addressing leadership challenges, career development, or community relations, his presentations and books inspire audiences to lead with purpose and create lasting change.

  Join Dr Naomi Murphy and David Jones as they delve into the transformative power of literature within the criminal justice system, through the inspiring insights of Jean Trounstine. An author, activist, and educator, Jean shares her decades of work supporting incarcerated women, the arts behind bars, and her journey creating impactful stories that challenge perceptions of justice and rehabilitation. Her first novel, 'Sounds like trouble to me' is released on 12th May. In this episode, we cover: Jean's personal journey into prison education and theatre The role of arts and literature in fostering rehabilitation Differences between the US and England in prison programming The impact of classic literature, including Shakespeare, behind bars The significance of the Me Too movement in prison reform The process of researching and ensuring authenticity in her writing How storytelling can reveal the humanity of incarcerated women The community and bonds formed among women in prison Challenges and opportunities in addressing sensitive topics like abuse and trauma Jean's current projects and future plans for her writing Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction to Jean Trounstine and her work in prison theatre 02:06 - How literature and theatre started shaping her activism 04:22 - The unique setting of Framingham Women's Prison and its history 05:50 - The decline in prison arts programs in the US 06:42 - Comparing approaches to prison arts in England and the US 08:33 - Plans to bring Shakespeare to women in prison 10:02 - The importance of exposing prisoners to classical texts 12:03 - Jean's pioneering work directing Shakespeare in prison worldwide 13:46 - Her journey from memoir to fiction with her novel “Sounds Like Trouble to Me” 15:20 - True stories inspiring her novel 16:18 - The uprising at Dublin's federal prison and its influence on her work 17:39 - The development of her characters inspired by real women 19:26 - Building authenticity for prison-related details and legal accuracy 22:03 - The storytelling process and discovering the narrative organically 24:14 - The message of hope and resilience in her book, “Sounds Like Trouble to Me” 25:52 - Addressing abuse, trauma, and societal myths about women in prison 29:49 - The impact of her work on understanding and rethinking incarceration 33:07 - The significance of the Me Too movement in her narratives 37:42 - The importance of friendship and solidarity among women in prison 40:54 - Personal stories that highlight vulnerability and connection 43:56 - The influence of risk-taking and building trust through theatre 48:48 - The “Changing Life Through Literature” program and its success 54:22 - Upcoming projects and the future of Jean's writing and activism

Join Dr Naomi Murphy and David Jones as they delve into the transformative power of literature within the criminal justice system, through the inspiring insights of Jean Trounstine. An author, activist, and educator, Jean shares her decades of work supporting incarcerated women, the arts behind bars, and her journey creating impactful stories that challenge perceptions of justice and rehabilitation. Her first novel, 'Sounds like trouble to me' is released on 12th May. In this episode, we cover: Jean's personal journey into prison education and theatre The role of arts and literature in fostering rehabilitation Differences between the US and England in prison programming The impact of classic literature, including Shakespeare, behind bars The significance of the Me Too movement in prison reform The process of researching and ensuring authenticity in her writing How storytelling can reveal the humanity of incarcerated women The community and bonds formed among women in prison Challenges and opportunities in addressing sensitive topics like abuse and trauma Jean's current projects and future plans for her writing Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction to Jean Trounstine and her work in prison theatre 02:06 - How literature and theatre started shaping her activism 04:22 - The unique setting of Framingham Women's Prison and its history 05:50 - The decline in prison arts programs in the US 06:42 - Comparing approaches to prison arts in England and the US 08:33 - Plans to bring Shakespeare to women in prison 10:02 - The importance of exposing prisoners to classical texts 12:03 - Jean's pioneering work directing Shakespeare in prison worldwide 13:46 - Her journey from memoir to fiction with her novel “Sounds Like Trouble to Me” 15:20 - True stories inspiring her novel 16:18 - The uprising at Dublin's federal prison and its influence on her work 17:39 - The development of her characters inspired by real women 19:26 - Building authenticity for prison-related details and legal accuracy 22:03 - The storytelling process and discovering the narrative organically 24:14 - The message of hope and resilience in her book, “Sounds Like Trouble to Me” 25:52 - Addressing abuse, trauma, and societal myths about women in prison 29:49 - The impact of her work on understanding and rethinking incarceration 33:07 - The significance of the Me Too movement in her narratives 37:42 - The importance of friendship and solidarity among women in prison 40:54 - Personal stories that highlight vulnerability and connection 43:56 - The influence of risk-taking and building trust through theatre 48:48 - The “Changing Life Through Literature” program and its success 54:22 - Upcoming projects and the future of Jean's writing and activism

Barbara Rawlings is a retired sociologist originally gaining her PhD in 1980 from Manchester University with an ethnography of a therapeutic community.  She has specialised in qualitive research in a variety of public sector settings and particularly in therapeutic communities.  These have been in both community and forensic settings, and have been both democratic therapeutic communities and the more hierarchical TCs which  work with drug addiction.  She is a co-opted member of CSAAP (Correctional Services Acccreditation and Advice Panel) and most recently has worked on research into the Living Learning Experience (LLE) which is an international training programme for therapeutic community staff.  summary This interview with Barbara Rawlings explores the world of therapeutic communities, contrasting hierarchical and democratic models, their histories, and their impact on treatment outcomes. Discover insights into staff roles, community dynamics, and the importance of environment in recovery.  keywords therapeutic communities, hierarchical vs democratic, addiction treatment, mental health, prison rehabilitation, community therapy, personality disorders, recovery models  key  topics Differences between hierarchical and democratic therapeutic communities History and origins of therapeutic communities in addiction and psychiatry Role of staff and residents in community dynamics Impact of environment and social time on recovery Challenges and successes in prison therapeutic communities  sound bites "In democratic communities, everyone is almost an equal." "Enabling environments reflect real community life." "Mirroring behavior helps understand and change actions." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Therapeutic Communities 03:16 Understanding Hierarchical vs. Democratic Therapeutic Communities 06:40 The Role of Staff in Therapeutic Communities 10:23 Length of Stay and Treatment Duration 13:54 Research Insights on Therapeutic Communities 18:37 Defining Success in Therapeutic Communities 29:52 The Importance of Aftercare in Reintegration 32:48 Evolution of Therapeutic Communities 34:30 Active Ingredients of Democratic Therapeutic Communities 36:19 Understanding Offence Paralleling Behavior 39:58 Creating a Reflective Environment in Prisons 43:24 Accreditation and Program Integrity in Therapeutic Communities 49:35 The Role of Community and Fun in Therapeutic Settings 52:50 Ten second outro video.mp4

  Barbara Rawlings is a retired sociologist originally gaining her PhD in 1980 from Manchester University with an ethnography of a therapeutic community.  She has specialised in qualitive research in a variety of public sector settings and particularly in therapeutic communities.  These have been in both community and forensic settings, and have been both democratic therapeutic communities and the more hierarchical TCs which  work with drug addiction.  She is a co-opted member of CSAAP (Correctional Services Acccreditation and Advice Panel) and most recently has worked on research into the Living Learning Experience (LLE) which is an international training programme for therapeutic community staff.  summary This interview with Barbara Rawlings explores the world of therapeutic communities, contrasting hierarchical and democratic models, their histories, and their impact on treatment outcomes. Discover insights into staff roles, community dynamics, and the importance of environment in recovery.  keywords therapeutic communities, hierarchical vs democratic, addiction treatment, mental health, prison rehabilitation, community therapy, personality disorders, recovery models  key  topics Differences between hierarchical and democratic therapeutic communities History and origins of therapeutic communities in addiction and psychiatry Role of staff and residents in community dynamics Impact of environment and social time on recovery Challenges and successes in prison therapeutic communities  sound bites "In democratic communities, everyone is almost an equal." "Enabling environments reflect real community life." "Mirroring behavior helps understand and change actions." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Therapeutic Communities 03:16 Understanding Hierarchical vs. Democratic Therapeutic Communities 06:40 The Role of Staff in Therapeutic Communities 10:23 Length of Stay and Treatment Duration 13:54 Research Insights on Therapeutic Communities 18:37 Defining Success in Therapeutic Communities 29:52 The Importance of Aftercare in Reintegration 32:48 Evolution of Therapeutic Communities 34:30 Active Ingredients of Democratic Therapeutic Communities 36:19 Understanding Offence Paralleling Behavior 39:58 Creating a Reflective Environment in Prisons 43:24 Accreditation and Program Integrity in Therapeutic Communities 49:35 The Role of Community and Fun in Therapeutic Settings 52:50 Ten second outro video.mp4  

In this episode Naomi and David explore with Sophie and Nujoji the nuanced experiences of women in prison who are convicted of murder, through the lens of therapeutic community research. We delve into the processes of change, identity reconstruction, and the significance of relational work in high-security settings. In this episode: The motivations behind working in women's prisons and the therapeutic community at HMP Send Unique challenges faced by women convicted of murder and how their identities are shaped by societal labels The importance of being nimble and relational in unpredictable prison environments The role and impact of labels such as "murderer" on personal identity and social perceptions Methodological insights: Why interpretive phenomenological analysis (IPA) was chosen for this research Key themes: honesty, discomfort, turbulence, and their roles in psychological growth The significance of belonging, love, and trust in healing and change processes Staff strategies for supporting women through turbulence and maintaining professionalism amidst emotional challenges Addressing racial biases and the importance of reflexivity within prison-based services How staff self-care and team cohesion foster a therapeutic milieu under complex circumstances Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction to research on women in therapeutic prison communities 02:02 - Nujoji and Sophie's backgrounds and motivations 06:23 - Distinctiveness of the women's therapeutic community and research importance 09:11 - Why interpretive phenomenological analysis was chosen 10:36 - Participants' experiences of being labeled as "murderers" 13:42 - The cycle of labels, fear, and identity 16:00 - Society's role in condemning and the potential for change 20:08 - Constructing the idea of being loved in a prison context 23:22 - Moments of insight and change in therapeutic groups 28:19 - The dynamics of group work and the impact of honesty and discomfort 33:07 - Supporting women in tolerating turbulence and emotional regulation 37:17 - The importance of boundaries and team dynamics in group settings 44:10 - How large community groups help realign therapeutic processes 48:50 - Addressing racial undertones and service reflection 54:18 - The unique position of male staff working with women in prison 58:36 - The relational nature of identity, difference, and race in therapy 60:26 - Protecting staff well-being in emotionally charged environments 64:24 - Concluding thoughts on memory, self-recrimination, and ongoing growth   This episode offers deep reflections on the complexity of prison-based therapeutic work, crucial for practitioners, policymakers, and anyone interested in the transformative potential within high-security environments.

In this episode Naomi and David explore with Sophie and Nujoji the nuanced experiences of women in prison who are convicted of murder, through the lens of therapeutic community research. We delve into the processes of change, identity reconstruction, and the significance of relational work in high-security settings. In this episode: The motivations behind working in women's prisons and the therapeutic community at HMP Send Unique challenges faced by women convicted of murder and how their identities are shaped by societal labels The importance of being nimble and relational in unpredictable prison environments The role and impact of labels such as "murderer" on personal identity and social perceptions Methodological insights: Why interpretive phenomenological analysis (IPA) was chosen for this research Key themes: honesty, discomfort, turbulence, and their roles in psychological growth The significance of belonging, love, and trust in healing and change processes Staff strategies for supporting women through turbulence and maintaining professionalism amidst emotional challenges Addressing racial biases and the importance of reflexivity within prison-based services How staff self-care and team cohesion foster a therapeutic milieu under complex circumstances Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction to research on women in therapeutic prison communities 02:02 - Nujoji and Sophie's backgrounds and motivations 06:23 - Distinctiveness of the women's therapeutic community and research importance 09:11 - Why interpretive phenomenological analysis was chosen 10:36 - Participants' experiences of being labeled as "murderers" 13:42 - The cycle of labels, fear, and identity 16:00 - Society's role in condemning and the potential for change 20:08 - Constructing the idea of being loved in a prison context 23:22 - Moments of insight and change in therapeutic groups 28:19 - The dynamics of group work and the impact of honesty and discomfort 33:07 - Supporting women in tolerating turbulence and emotional regulation 37:17 - The importance of boundaries and team dynamics in group settings 44:10 - How large community groups help realign therapeutic processes 48:50 - Addressing racial undertones and service reflection 54:18 - The unique position of male staff working with women in prison 58:36 - The relational nature of identity, difference, and race in therapy 60:26 - Protecting staff well-being in emotionally charged environments 64:24 - Concluding thoughts on memory, self-recrimination, and ongoing growth   This episode offers deep reflections on the complexity of prison-based therapeutic work, crucial for practitioners, policymakers, and anyone interested in the transformative potential within high-security environments.

Therapeutic Community Elders & the PETT Archive (Planned Environment Therapy Trust) Episode summary: In this conversation, David Jones and Naomi Murphy are joined by Tom Harrison, Sarah Paget, Vicky Gavin, and David Kennard.. Together they explore what the Therapeutic Community (TC) Elders are, why their monthly open forums matter, and what it means for the field that the PETT archive at Toddington is closing. The group reflects on sustaining therapeutic community ideas, making knowledge accessible through a “living archive” (including Vicky's A–Z artwork concept), and how people can get involved. Guests Tom Harrison – Psychiatrist (worked in a therapeutic community in the 1970s); historian of therapeutic communities. Sarah Paget – Director at the Mulberry Bush; supports and coordinates the TC Elders and related activity. Vicky (Victoria) – Formerly worked at The Retreat (Acorn programme) and managed the therapeutic community at HMP Send; also an artist developing an A–Z “living archive” concept. David Kennard – Clinical psychologist; long-standing contributor to the therapeutic community field (including writing/editing roles) and TC Elders participant. In this episode Where the idea of the TC Elders came from and what the group is for. Why the monthly Zoom Open Forums have become a key way of staying connected across countries and services. How the Elders aim to hold a space for thinking, including “negative capability” (the capacity to sit with not knowing). Who the Open Forums are for (not only people in formal therapeutic communities), and what people get from attending. The story and purpose of the PETT archive—and what is being lost (and potentially preserved) as it closes. A “living archive” approach: Vicky's A–Z artwork as a way to invite memories, reflections, and contributions from the wider community. Chapters / timestamps (Times approx.) 01:03 – Welcome and what the conversation will cover (TC Elders and the PETT archive). 01:29 – Introductions: Tom Harrison, Sarah Paget, Vicky (Victoria), David Kennard, Dr Naomi Murphy. 03:51 – What are the Therapeutic Community Elders and why were they formed? 05:51 – The monthly Open Forums: connection, learning, and support across settings and countries. 10:03 – How to access the Open Forums; typical attendance and the “no fee” ethos. 15:26 – Who can be an Elder? How invitations work and why in-person meetings matter. 21:51 – Vicky's A–Z “living archive” artwork idea and how it could become open and collaborative. 28:38 – What is the PETT archive and what has it contained? 32:39 – Why the archive is closing (May 31) and the practical realities of maintaining it. 33:59 – Preserving therapeutic community ideas in a climate that often undervalues long-term, relational work. 40:04 – Closing reflections: why therapeutic community ideas are “common sense” and broader than TCs. Key takeaways The TC Elders are less about “giving answers” and more about holding a reflective space for practitioners and communities. The Open Forums function as a predictable monthly “anchor” that supports people doing relational work in challenging contexts. The PETT archive represents a major collective memory of therapeutic community practice; its closure highlights the real costs of preserving history. “Living archive” approaches (like the A–Z concept) may help capture stories, artefacts, and learning that don't always make it into formal publications. Resources / contact TC Elders contact : Sarah Paget – spaget@mulberrybush.org.uk Host organisation: The Mulberry Bush (hosts the TC Elders). Archive discussed: PETT archive (Planned Environment Therapy Trust archive) at Toddington (noted as closing May 31).

Therapeutic Community Elders & the PETT Archive (Planned Environment Therapy Trust) Episode summary: In this conversation, David Jones and Naomi Murphy are joined by Tom Harrison, Sarah Paget, Vicky Gavin, and David Kennard.. Together they explore what the Therapeutic Community (TC) Elders are, why their monthly open forums matter, and what it means for the field that the PETT archive at Toddington is closing. The group reflects on sustaining therapeutic community ideas, making knowledge accessible through a “living archive” (including Vicky's A–Z artwork concept), and how people can get involved. Guests Tom Harrison – Psychiatrist (worked in a therapeutic community in the 1970s); historian of therapeutic communities. Sarah Paget – Director at the Mulberry Bush; supports and coordinates the TC Elders and related activity. Vicky (Victoria) – Formerly worked at The Retreat (Acorn programme) and managed the therapeutic community at HMP Send; also an artist developing an A–Z “living archive” concept. David Kennard – Clinical psychologist; long-standing contributor to the therapeutic community field (including writing/editing roles) and TC Elders participant. In this episode Where the idea of the TC Elders came from and what the group is for. Why the monthly Zoom Open Forums have become a key way of staying connected across countries and services. How the Elders aim to hold a space for thinking, including “negative capability” (the capacity to sit with not knowing). Who the Open Forums are for (not only people in formal therapeutic communities), and what people get from attending. The story and purpose of the PETT archive—and what is being lost (and potentially preserved) as it closes. A “living archive” approach: Vicky's A–Z artwork as a way to invite memories, reflections, and contributions from the wider community. Chapters / timestamps (Times approx.) 01:03 – Welcome and what the conversation will cover (TC Elders and the PETT archive). 01:29 – Introductions: Tom Harrison, Sarah Paget, Vicky (Victoria), David Kennard, Dr Naomi Murphy. 03:51 – What are the Therapeutic Community Elders and why were they formed? 05:51 – The monthly Open Forums: connection, learning, and support across settings and countries. 10:03 – How to access the Open Forums; typical attendance and the “no fee” ethos. 15:26 – Who can be an Elder? How invitations work and why in-person meetings matter. 21:51 – Vicky's A–Z “living archive” artwork idea and how it could become open and collaborative. 28:38 – What is the PETT archive and what has it contained? 32:39 – Why the archive is closing (May 31) and the practical realities of maintaining it. 33:59 – Preserving therapeutic community ideas in a climate that often undervalues long-term, relational work. 40:04 – Closing reflections: why therapeutic community ideas are “common sense” and broader than TCs. Key takeaways The TC Elders are less about “giving answers” and more about holding a reflective space for practitioners and communities. The Open Forums function as a predictable monthly “anchor” that supports people doing relational work in challenging contexts. The PETT archive represents a major collective memory of therapeutic community practice; its closure highlights the real costs of preserving history. “Living archive” approaches (like the A–Z concept) may help capture stories, artefacts, and learning that don't always make it into formal publications. Resources / contact TC Elders contact : Sarah Paget – spaget@mulberrybush.org.uk Host organisation: The Mulberry Bush (hosts the TC Elders). Archive discussed: PETT archive (Planned Environment Therapy Trust archive) at Toddington (noted as closing May 31).

  Together with David Jones and Naomi Murphy Keith shares his harrowing experience of abuse at Grafton Close children's home, the systemic failures of institutions, and the ongoing fight for justice and accountability. This candid conversation sheds light on the dark realities of institutional abuse, survivor resilience, and the need for societal change. keywords child abuse, institutional failure, survivor stories, justice, accountability, systemic abuse, Grafton Close, child protection, trauma, activism key topics Systemic failure in child protection Survivor activism and advocacy Institutional cover-ups and accountability key frameworks Institutional Culture and Child Protection action items Survivors should seek support from trusted individuals and organizations. Institutions must be transparent and accountable for past abuses. Society needs to listen to survivor stories to drive systemic change. Advocate for stronger laws and policies to protect children and support survivors.   Sound Bites "Paedophiles are not just male, they can be female too." "Survivors have nothing to be ashamed of." "We need systemic change to protect children."  Chapters (Timings approx) 00:00 Unveiling Grafton Close: A Dark History 05:06 Personal Accounts of Abuse 11:00 The Role of Staff: Ignorance or Complicity? 16:50 Seeking Accountability from Richmond Council 25:57 The Quest for Truth: FOI Requests and Denials 27:20 The Struggle Against Institutional Barriers 28:42 Uncovering the Past: The Case of Philip Saunders 34:15 Seeking Acknowledgment: The Role of the Council 36:38 The Power of Speaking Out: Waiving Anonymity 39:30 The Need for Systemic Change: Addressing Institutional Failures 42:39 The Stagnation of Justice: Challenges with the Council 47:14 Reflections on the Independent Inquiry: Missed Opportunities 51:24 Coping with the Emotional Toll: The Burden of Advocacy 53:53  

Together with David Jones and Naomi Murphy Keith shares his harrowing experience of abuse at Grafton Close children's home, the systemic failures of institutions, and the ongoing fight for justice and accountability. This candid conversation sheds light on the dark realities of institutional abuse, survivor resilience, and the need for societal change. keywords child abuse, institutional failure, survivor stories, justice, accountability, systemic abuse, Grafton Close, child protection, trauma, activism key topics Systemic failure in child protection Survivor activism and advocacy Institutional cover-ups and accountability key frameworks Institutional Culture and Child Protection action items Survivors should seek support from trusted individuals and organizations. Institutions must be transparent and accountable for past abuses. Society needs to listen to survivor stories to drive systemic change. Advocate for stronger laws and policies to protect children and support survivors.   Sound Bites "Paedophiles are not just male, they can be female too." "Survivors have nothing to be ashamed of." "We need systemic change to protect children."  Chapters (Timings approx) 00:00 Unveiling Grafton Close: A Dark History 05:06 Personal Accounts of Abuse 11:00 The Role of Staff: Ignorance or Complicity? 16:50 Seeking Accountability from Richmond Council 25:57 The Quest for Truth: FOI Requests and Denials 27:20 The Struggle Against Institutional Barriers 28:42 Uncovering the Past: The Case of Philip Saunders 34:15 Seeking Acknowledgment: The Role of the Council 36:38 The Power of Speaking Out: Waiving Anonymity 39:30 The Need for Systemic Change: Addressing Institutional Failures 42:39 The Stagnation of Justice: Challenges with the Council 47:14 Reflections on the Independent Inquiry: Missed Opportunities 51:24 Coping with the Emotional Toll: The Burden of Advocacy 53:53  

Dr. Mariana Brussoni is Director of the Human Early Learning Partnership at the University of British Columbia, professor in the UBC Department of Pediatrics and School of Population and Public Health, Investigator at British Columbia Children's Hospital Research Institute and lead of the Outside Play Lab. Her award-winning research investigates children's outdoor and risky play, focusing on shifting parents' and educators' perceptions of risk, designing play-friendly environments, and changing systems to ensure children have the time, space and freedom to play outside every day. Mariana's new book, Embracing Risky Play at School, co-authored with Megan Zeni, provides simple, actionable strategies for teachers and schools.  Dr. Mariana Brussoni is Director of the Human Early Learning Partnership at the University of British Columbia, professor in the UBC Department of Pediatrics and School of Population and Public Health, Investigator at British Columbia Children's Hospital Research Institute and lead of the Outside Play Lab. Her award-winning research investigates children's outdoor and risky play, focusing on shifting parents' and educators' perceptions of risk, designing play-friendly environments, and changing systems to ensure children have the time, space and freedom to play outside every day. Mariana's new book, Embracing Risky Play at School, co-authored with Megan Zeni, provides simple, actionable strategies for teachers and schools.  https://blackwells.co.uk/bookshop/product/Embracing-Risky-Play-at-School-by-Megan-Zeni-Mariana-Brussoni/9780807783993?srsltid=AfmBOorD7mPo0kZ2_s2XXk8EVtwpTx24uOYOnp4TcWrWgPnyAsJydoL1  summary This conversation explores the importance of risky outdoor play for children's development, the societal shifts that have reduced play opportunities, and how rethinking our approach can benefit children's mental and physical health.  keywords risky play, childhood development, outdoor play, societal change, mental health, play safety, childhood devaluation  key  topics Definition and importance of risky play Evolutionary and developmental benefits of risky play Societal changes reducing outdoor play Impact of reduced play on mental health Strategies to promote safe risky play  sound bites "Children need micro doses of uncertainty to thrive" "Urbanization and screens have reduced outdoor play" "Society undervalues childhood and play" Chapters (timings approx) 00:00 The Importance of Play in Child Development 02:44 Defining Risky Play and Its Benefits 05:34 Gender Differences in Risky Play 07:51 The Evolutionary Need for Risky Play 10:33 The Impact of Overprotective Parenting 13:18 Societal Changes and Fear of Risky Play 16:07 Structured Activities vs. Free Play 18:39 Access to Play for Lower-Income Families 21:27 The Value of Play in Education 23:48 Reimagining Play in Schools 26:29 Addressing ADHD and Learning Challenges 29:17 The Role of Adults in Managing Play 31:44 Finding Joy and Fun in Play 34:40 Encouraging Adult Playfulness  resources Outdoor Play and Learning (OPAL) program - https://www.opalexplorenature.org/ Stuart Brown's work on play - https://www.amazon.com/Play-How-It-Makes-Us-Human/dp/031236553X Ellen Sandsetter's research on risky play - https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Ellen-Sandseter British Columbia's Children's Hospital - https://www.bcchildrens.ca/  guest links LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mariana-brussoni/

Dr. Mariana Brussoni is Director of the Human Early Learning Partnership at the University of British Columbia, professor in the UBC Department of Pediatrics and School of Population and Public Health, Investigator at British Columbia Children's Hospital Research Institute and lead of the Outside Play Lab. Her award-winning research investigates children's outdoor and risky play, focusing on shifting parents' and educators' perceptions of risk, designing play-friendly environments, and changing systems to ensure children have the time, space and freedom to play outside every day. Mariana's new book, Embracing Risky Play at School, co-authored with Megan Zeni, provides simple, actionable strategies for teachers and schools.  Dr. Mariana Brussoni is Director of the Human Early Learning Partnership at the University of British Columbia, professor in the UBC Department of Pediatrics and School of Population and Public Health, Investigator at British Columbia Children's Hospital Research Institute and lead of the Outside Play Lab. Her award-winning research investigates children's outdoor and risky play, focusing on shifting parents' and educators' perceptions of risk, designing play-friendly environments, and changing systems to ensure children have the time, space and freedom to play outside every day. Mariana's new book, Embracing Risky Play at School, co-authored with Megan Zeni, provides simple, actionable strategies for teachers and schools.  https://blackwells.co.uk/bookshop/product/Embracing-Risky-Play-at-School-by-Megan-Zeni-Mariana-Brussoni/9780807783993?srsltid=AfmBOorD7mPo0kZ2_s2XXk8EVtwpTx24uOYOnp4TcWrWgPnyAsJydoL1  summary This conversation explores the importance of risky outdoor play for children's development, the societal shifts that have reduced play opportunities, and how rethinking our approach can benefit children's mental and physical health.  keywords risky play, childhood development, outdoor play, societal change, mental health, play safety, childhood devaluation  key  topics Definition and importance of risky play Evolutionary and developmental benefits of risky play Societal changes reducing outdoor play Impact of reduced play on mental health Strategies to promote safe risky play  sound bites "Children need micro doses of uncertainty to thrive" "Urbanization and screens have reduced outdoor play" "Society undervalues childhood and play" Chapters (timings approx) 00:00 The Importance of Play in Child Development 02:44 Defining Risky Play and Its Benefits 05:34 Gender Differences in Risky Play 07:51 The Evolutionary Need for Risky Play 10:33 The Impact of Overprotective Parenting 13:18 Societal Changes and Fear of Risky Play 16:07 Structured Activities vs. Free Play 18:39 Access to Play for Lower-Income Families 21:27 The Value of Play in Education 23:48 Reimagining Play in Schools 26:29 Addressing ADHD and Learning Challenges 29:17 The Role of Adults in Managing Play 31:44 Finding Joy and Fun in Play 34:40 Encouraging Adult Playfulness  resources Outdoor Play and Learning (OPAL) program - https://www.opalexplorenature.org/ Stuart Brown's work on play - https://www.amazon.com/Play-How-It-Makes-Us-Human/dp/031236553X Ellen Sandsetter's research on risky play - https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Ellen-Sandseter British Columbia's Children's Hospital - https://www.bcchildrens.ca/  guest links LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mariana-brussoni/  

Tom Harrison, a social psychiatrist and author, shares insights from his extensive work on therapeutic communities (TCs), focusing on the history and significance of the now-closed Ingrebourne Centre. Discover how these settings foster healing through social connection, leadership, and community, and their lessons for modern mental health services. Key Topics The history and importance of the Ingrebourne Centre within UK therapeutic communities Core features of therapeutic communities: open communication, safety, and trust Hierarchy challenges in mental health services and the potential for flatter, more collaborative models The social and sociological aspects of TCs, including belonging and mutual aid The role of communal activities like group meetings, psychotherapy, and creative groups Transitional emotional space and the imaginative concept of "Imagined Ingrebourne" Leadership styles in TCs: rebellious pioneers, considered leaders, and authoritarian tendencies The permeable nature of therapeutic communities and boundaries with the outside world Lessons for contemporary NHS and mental health services: community meetings, staff presence, and patient involvement The importance of staff valuing and engaging actively in group activities to foster trust and safety Timestamps (Approx) 00:00 - Introduction to Tom Harrison's background in NHS and therapeutic communities 02:57 - Explanation of therapeutic community features and their importance 04:50 - Impact of hierarchical structures and authority on therapeutic relationships 09:14 - Leadership styles of pioneers and modern NHS parallels 11:23 - The blurred line between staff and patients in TCs and its significance 13:48 - The metaphor of family and belonging in therapeutic recovery 16:11 - How early trauma and childhood wounds can be healed in community settings 17:25 - Types of groups in TCs: community meetings, psychotherapy, recreational activities 20:12 - The "here and now" focus in group interventions and emotional work 23:39 - Spontaneous and creative groups like art therapy and their value 25:58 - Staff reflections, group dynamics, and the role of leadership during crises 28:07 - Harold Bridger's concept of transitional and imagined spaces 30:24 - Boundaries and permeability of the Ingrebourne Centre and other TCs 32:39 - The ongoing life and influence of therapeutic communities after closure 33:37 - The power of mutual aid among patients and peer support's significance 36:19 - Social dynamics, group behavior, and the importance of leadership in TCs 38:10 - Staff engagement in groups and establishing a culture of respect and safety 39:50 - The role of staff bound by care, presence, and boundary-setting 42:34 - The importance of kitchen and communal activities in fostering trust 46:53 - Tensions between psychoanalytic approaches and social methods in the history of TCs 49:15 - Lessons for modern mental health services: community meetings, patient involvement, spontaneous support networks 52:29 - Wrap-up and appreciation for Tom Harrison's insights and ongoing research Resources Richard Crockett — founder of the Ingrebourne Centre, Craig Fees —PETT archive Hamish Henderson — junior doctor influencing early TC practice Maxwell Jones —Henderson Hospital, Dingleton and TCs Tom Main —hierarchy and TC theory, Cassel Hospital Alex Renton — referenced indirectly in discussion of hierarchy and rebellion and in relation to public schools Bertram Mandelbrote — Consultant psychiatrist, Phoenix Unit in Oxford David Clarke — identified as a thoughtful TC leader Cambridge. Andy Roberts — former patient, Kurt Lewin —group dynamics John Rickman — psychoanalyst Wilfred Bion — referenced in relation to Northfield and group theory psychoanalyst Harold Bridger — major figure re transitional space, psychiatrist Jacob Moreno psychodrama Lawrence Bradwick art therapy (≈24:30) [Document | Word] Donald Winnicott — psychoanalyst, transitional space Frederich Nietzsche — philosopher Closing Remarks This episode offers valuable lessons from the history and practice of therapeutic communities, emphasizing the social and relational aspects central to healing. Whether you're a mental health professional, a researcher, or interested listener, Tom's insights inspire a rethinking of how care environments can promote trust, safety, and genuine connection.

Tom Harrison, a social psychiatrist and author, shares insights from his extensive work on therapeutic communities (TCs), focusing on the history and significance of the now-closed Ingrebourne Centre. Discover how these settings foster healing through social connection, leadership, and community, and their lessons for modern mental health services. Key Topics The history and importance of the Ingrebourne Centre within UK therapeutic communities Core features of therapeutic communities: open communication, safety, and trust Hierarchy challenges in mental health services and the potential for flatter, more collaborative models The social and sociological aspects of TCs, including belonging and mutual aid The role of communal activities like group meetings, psychotherapy, and creative groups Transitional emotional space and the imaginative concept of "Imagined Ingrebourne" Leadership styles in TCs: rebellious pioneers, considered leaders, and authoritarian tendencies The permeable nature of therapeutic communities and boundaries with the outside world Lessons for contemporary NHS and mental health services: community meetings, staff presence, and patient involvement The importance of staff valuing and engaging actively in group activities to foster trust and safety Timestamps (Approx) 00:00 - Introduction to Tom Harrison's background in NHS and therapeutic communities 02:57 - Explanation of therapeutic community features and their importance 04:50 - Impact of hierarchical structures and authority on therapeutic relationships 09:14 - Leadership styles of pioneers and modern NHS parallels 11:23 - The blurred line between staff and patients in TCs and its significance 13:48 - The metaphor of family and belonging in therapeutic recovery 16:11 - How early trauma and childhood wounds can be healed in community settings 17:25 - Types of groups in TCs: community meetings, psychotherapy, recreational activities 20:12 - The "here and now" focus in group interventions and emotional work 23:39 - Spontaneous and creative groups like art therapy and their value 25:58 - Staff reflections, group dynamics, and the role of leadership during crises 28:07 - Harold Bridger's concept of transitional and imagined spaces 30:24 - Boundaries and permeability of the Ingrebourne Centre and other TCs 32:39 - The ongoing life and influence of therapeutic communities after closure 33:37 - The power of mutual aid among patients and peer support's significance 36:19 - Social dynamics, group behavior, and the importance of leadership in TCs 38:10 - Staff engagement in groups and establishing a culture of respect and safety 39:50 - The role of staff bound by care, presence, and boundary-setting 42:34 - The importance of kitchen and communal activities in fostering trust 46:53 - Tensions between psychoanalytic approaches and social methods in the history of TCs 49:15 - Lessons for modern mental health services: community meetings, patient involvement, spontaneous support networks 52:29 - Wrap-up and appreciation for Tom Harrison's insights and ongoing research Resources Richard Crockett — founder of the Ingrebourne Centre, Craig Fees —PETT archive Hamish Henderson — junior doctor influencing early TC practice Maxwell Jones —Henderson Hospital, Dingleton and TCs Tom Main —hierarchy and TC theory, Cassel Hospital Alex Renton — referenced indirectly in discussion of hierarchy and rebellion and in relation to public schools Bertram Mandelbrote — Consultant psychiatrist, Phoenix Unit in Oxford David Clarke — identified as a thoughtful TC leader Cambridge. Andy Roberts — former patient, Kurt Lewin —group dynamics John Rickman — psychoanalyst Wilfred Bion — referenced in relation to Northfield and group theory psychoanalyst Harold Bridger — major figure re transitional space, psychiatrist Jacob Moreno psychodrama Lawrence Bradwick art therapy (≈24:30) [Document | Word] Donald Winnicott — psychoanalyst, transitional space Frederich Nietzsche — philosopher Closing Remarks This episode offers valuable lessons from the history and practice of therapeutic communities, emphasizing the social and relational aspects central to healing. Whether you're a mental health professional, a researcher, or interested listener, Tom's insights inspire a rethinking of how care environments can promote trust, safety, and genuine connection.

keywords child abuse, whistleblower, child protection, exploitation, Voice for the Voiceless, systemic issues, care homes, ritual abuse, societal implications, justice  takeaways Jon Wedger is a retired police detective and whistleblower. He specialized in child abuse investigations, focusing on children from care homes. Jon's investigations revealed systemic issues in child protection. He faced significant pushback from the police for his findings. The care system often fails to protect vulnerable children from exploitation. Jon founded Voice for the Voiceless to give a platform to abuse survivors. He has encountered numerous cases of ritual abuse during his work. Child abuse is a pervasive issue that transcends social classes. Jon emphasizes the need for a dedicated focus on child protection in policing. His personal journey has been marked by trauma and resilience.  summary In this conversation Naomi Murphy and David Jones meet Jon Wedger, a retired police detective and whistleblower. He shares his harrowing experiences investigating child abuse within the care system, the systemic failures in child protection, the challenges he faced as a whistleblower, and the formation of his campaign, Voice for the Voiceless. Jon highlights the prevalence of exploitation and ritual abuse, emphasizing the need for societal change and a dedicated focus on child protection. His personal journey is marked by trauma, resilience, and a commitment to giving a voice to the voiceless. https://jonwedger.org/blogs/b/give-a-voice-to-the-voiceless  sound bites ""I was told to shut up about my findings."" ""Child abuse is a rotting society."" ""Child abuse knows no boundaries.""   Chapters (Timings approx.) 00:00 The Voice for the Voiceless: Introduction to Jon Wedger 05:26 The System's Failures: Cover-Ups and Consequences 13:13 The Fight Against Institutional Abuse: A Personal Account 19:57 Voice for the Voiceless: Raising Awareness and Advocacy 27:18 The Intersection of Power, Abuse, and Society 36:26 The Disparity in Justice 47:14 The Impact of Advocacy on Identity

keywords child abuse, whistleblower, child protection, exploitation, Voice for the Voiceless, systemic issues, care homes, ritual abuse, societal implications, justice  takeaways Jon Wedger is a retired police detective and whistleblower. He specialized in child abuse investigations, focusing on children from care homes. Jon's investigations revealed systemic issues in child protection. He faced significant pushback from the police for his findings. The care system often fails to protect vulnerable children from exploitation. Jon founded Voice for the Voiceless to give a platform to abuse survivors. He has encountered numerous cases of ritual abuse during his work. Child abuse is a pervasive issue that transcends social classes. Jon emphasizes the need for a dedicated focus on child protection in policing. His personal journey has been marked by trauma and resilience.  summary In this conversation Naomi Murphy and David Jones meet Jon Wedger, a retired police detective and whistleblower. He shares his harrowing experiences investigating child abuse within the care system, the systemic failures in child protection, the challenges he faced as a whistleblower, and the formation of his campaign, Voice for the Voiceless. Jon highlights the prevalence of exploitation and ritual abuse, emphasizing the need for societal change and a dedicated focus on child protection. His personal journey is marked by trauma, resilience, and a commitment to giving a voice to the voiceless. https://jonwedger.org/blogs/b/give-a-voice-to-the-voiceless  sound bites ""I was told to shut up about my findings."" ""Child abuse is a rotting society."" ""Child abuse knows no boundaries.""   Chapters (Timings approx.) 00:00 The Voice for the Voiceless: Introduction to Jon Wedger 05:26 The System's Failures: Cover-Ups and Consequences 13:13 The Fight Against Institutional Abuse: A Personal Account 19:57 Voice for the Voiceless: Raising Awareness and Advocacy 27:18 The Intersection of Power, Abuse, and Society 36:26 The Disparity in Justice 47:14 The Impact of Advocacy on Identity

Summary In this conversation Naomi Murphy and David Jones explore the nature of leadership, emotional intelligence, and the impact of childhood experiences on leadership styles. Piers Cross and Chris Braitch share insights on how leadership can be developed, the importance of compassion, and the societal implications of leadership behaviors.  Here is a link to their upcoming online workshop, https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/leadership-under-pressure-how-you-can-manage-pressure-better-tickets-1982772564114?aff=oddtdtcreator   And to their website: https://compassionateleadersglobal.com/    keywords Leadership, Emotional Intelligence, Compassionate Leadership, Childhood Trauma, Organizational Culture, Leadership Training, Management vs Leadership, Wounded Leaders, Societal Impact, Personal Development.   key  topics Leadership development and the nature vs nurture debate The impact of childhood trauma and adverse experiences on leadership styles The importance of emotional intelligence and compassion in leadership Differences between management and leadership The societal and organizational implications of leadership behaviors  sound bites "Leaders aren't just born, they are made." "Leadership is a teachable skill set." "Business success depends on compassionate leadership." Chapters 00:00 The Nature of Leadership: Born or Made? 04:45 Learning Leadership Through Osmosis 08:48 The Impact of Childhood on Leadership Styles 11:37 Distinguishing Leadership from Management 18:14 Institutional Experiences and Leadership Development 24:32 Consequences of Suppressing Emotions in Leadership 24:54 The Fall of a Leader: Personal Struggles and Realizations 27:04 The Command and Control Leadership Style: Pros and Cons 29:57 Compassion in Leadership: A Necessary Shift 32:26 Pressure Reveals True Leadership: The Impact of Stress 38:44 The Dark Side of Leadership: Accountability and Vulnerability 43:09 Creating Compassionate Leaders: A New Approach to Leadership Development 48:57 Ten second outro video.mp4   Chris Braitch has a mission to move himself and the world around him towards connection and compassion. He works as an emotional health coach, leadership coach with Compassionate Leaders Global, and as a founding director of Seen & Heard, a not-for-profit offering wellbeing support to past and present pupils of the private school system, many of whom have experienced institutional abuse and neglect. After two decades in sales, marketing, and management for global consumer goods companies, Chris's life was upended by unresolved childhood trauma, the grief of losing his young son and mother, and addiction, leading to a breakdown in 2021. Through coaching, men's groups, Emotional Freedom Technique, and a spiritual awakening, he rebuilt his life. Now addiction-free, he has found his purpose, transformed his parenting, and is committed to serving others with  compassion and authenticity. https://seenheard.org.uk/ "Piers Cross is an author, coach, and documentary producer specialising in boarding school trauma. He is also the founder of Compassionate Leaders Global, an organisation dedicated to developing emotionally intelligent, compassionate leaders for the future. https://www.piers-cross.com/  resources Compassionate Leaders Global - https://compassionateleaders.global Emma Seppälä - Stanford Professor on Stress and Leadership - https://www.stanford.edu Doris Kearns Goodwin - Leadership and Emotional Intelligence - https://www.amazon.com Steven Spielberg's Lincoln Movie - https://www.youtube.com The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk - https://www.amazon.com/The-Body-Keeps-Score-Psychiatry/dp/0143127748

Summary In this conversation Naomi Murphy and David Jones explore the nature of leadership, emotional intelligence, and the impact of childhood experiences on leadership styles. Piers Cross and Chris Braitch share insights on how leadership can be developed, the importance of compassion, and the societal implications of leadership behaviors.  Here is a link to their upcoming online workshop, https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/leadership-under-pressure-how-you-can-manage-pressure-better-tickets-1982772564114?aff=oddtdtcreator   And to their website: https://compassionateleadersglobal.com/  keywords Leadership, Emotional Intelligence, Compassionate Leadership, Childhood Trauma, Organizational Culture, Leadership Training, Management vs Leadership, Wounded Leaders, Societal Impact, Personal Development.   key  topics Leadership development and the nature vs nurture debate The impact of childhood trauma and adverse experiences on leadership styles The importance of emotional intelligence and compassion in leadership Differences between management and leadership The societal and organizational implications of leadership behaviors  sound bites "Leaders aren't just born, they are made." "Leadership is a teachable skill set." "Business success depends on compassionate leadership." Chapters 00:00 The Nature of Leadership: Born or Made? 04:45 Learning Leadership Through Osmosis 08:48 The Impact of Childhood on Leadership Styles 11:37 Distinguishing Leadership from Management 18:14 Institutional Experiences and Leadership Development 24:32 Consequences of Suppressing Emotions in Leadership 24:54 The Fall of a Leader: Personal Struggles and Realizations 27:04 The Command and Control Leadership Style: Pros and Cons 29:57 Compassion in Leadership: A Necessary Shift 32:26 Pressure Reveals True Leadership: The Impact of Stress 38:44 The Dark Side of Leadership: Accountability and Vulnerability 43:09 Creating Compassionate Leaders: A New Approach to Leadership Development 48:57 Ten second outro video.mp4   Chris Braitch has a mission to move himself and the world around him towards connection and compassion. He works as an emotional health coach, leadership coach with Compassionate Leaders Global, and as a founding director of Seen & Heard, a not-for-profit offering wellbeing support to past and present pupils of the private school system, many of whom have experienced institutional abuse and neglect. After two decades in sales, marketing, and management for global consumer goods companies, Chris's life was upended by unresolved childhood trauma, the grief of losing his young son and mother, and addiction, leading to a breakdown in 2021. Through coaching, men's groups, Emotional Freedom Technique, and a spiritual awakening, he rebuilt his life. Now addiction-free, he has found his purpose, transformed his parenting, and is committed to serving others with  compassion and authenticity. https://seenheard.org.uk/ "Piers Cross is an author, coach, and documentary producer specialising in boarding school trauma. He is also the founder of Compassionate Leaders Global, an organisation dedicated to developing emotionally intelligent, compassionate leaders for the future. https://www.piers-cross.com/  resources Compassionate Leaders Global - https://compassionateleaders.global Emma Seppälä - Stanford Professor on Stress and Leadership - https://www.stanford.edu Doris Kearns Goodwin - Leadership and Emotional Intelligence - https://www.amazon.com Steven Spielberg's Lincoln Movie - https://www.youtube.com The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk - https://www.amazon.com/The-Body-Keeps-Score-Psychiatry/dp/0143127748

  In this episode David and Naomi meet with Lawrence Collins-Willis who shares his disturbing personal story of childhood abuse, recovery, and the ongoing journey to heal from trauma. His openness offers insight into the complex process of memory recovery and the importance of self-awareness, resilience, and professional support. Key Topics The impact of adopting children later in life and personal childhood histories Recognizing triggers and embodying emotional regulation The role of therapy, including EMDR and somatic approaches, in trauma recovery Memory recovery: how traumatic memories emerge piecemeal and the disorientation involved Physical manifestations of trauma: scars, surgeries, and bodily effects The importance of self-compassion and patience during healing Challenging stigma around male trauma and abuse Supporting others who experience or process trauma The importance of trauma-informed therapy and support options for men Timestamps 00:00 - Introduction to Lawrence's story and its significance 02:01 - Pre-adoption life: grounding and functioning well 04:38 - Experiencing and recognizing emotional triggers during parenting 06:26 - Professional interventions and the importance of therapy 08:13 - The breakthrough moment in therapy and uncovering repressed memories 11:13 - The harsh reality of childhood abuse and the process of memory recovery 13:13 - The details of traumatic events, betrayal, and ongoing impact 16:25 - The body's physical response: scars, surgeries, and bodily trauma 19:44 - The emotional toll and identity shifts following trauma 22:56 - The importance of support systems and handling suicidal thoughts 28:38 - Disorientation of memory flashing back and sensory triggers 30:46 - The somatic effects of trauma on the body and physical health 33:08 - How trauma influences identity and self-image 36:49 - Managing triggers and feeling safer in everyday life 38:24 - The lasting impact of trauma and ongoing vulnerability 42:01 - The challenges of feeling safe and concerns about future behavior 43:33 - Addressing fears around abuse and the importance of trauma-informed support 45:43 - Navigating the landscape of mental health support and barriers to access 47:19 - The dark moments: suicidal ideation and seeking help 50:06 - Breaking down stigma and supporting men's mental health and trauma recovery 52:14 - Advice for survivors: emotions, anger, and self-kindness 54:37 - Contemporary trauma therapy approaches and their effectiveness 55:48 - Final reflections: acceptance and the ongoing journey of healing

In this episode David and Naomi meet with Lawrence Collins-Willis who shares his disturbing personal story of childhood abuse, recovery, and the ongoing journey to heal from trauma. His openness offers insight into the complex process of memory recovery and the importance of self-awareness, resilience, and professional support. Key Topics The impact of adopting children later in life and personal childhood histories Recognizing triggers and embodying emotional regulation The role of therapy, including EMDR and somatic approaches, in trauma recovery Memory recovery: how traumatic memories emerge piecemeal and the disorientation involved Physical manifestations of trauma: scars, surgeries, and bodily effects The importance of self-compassion and patience during healing Challenging stigma around male trauma and abuse Supporting others who experience or process trauma The importance of trauma-informed therapy and support options for men Timestamps 00:00 - Introduction to Lawrence's story and its significance 02:01 - Pre-adoption life: grounding and functioning well 04:38 - Experiencing and recognizing emotional triggers during parenting 06:26 - Professional interventions and the importance of therapy 08:13 - The breakthrough moment in therapy and uncovering repressed memories 11:13 - The harsh reality of childhood abuse and the process of memory recovery 13:13 - The details of traumatic events, betrayal, and ongoing impact 16:25 - The body's physical response: scars, surgeries, and bodily trauma 19:44 - The emotional toll and identity shifts following trauma 22:56 - The importance of support systems and handling suicidal thoughts 28:38 - Disorientation of memory flashing back and sensory triggers 30:46 - The somatic effects of trauma on the body and physical health 33:08 - How trauma influences identity and self-image 36:49 - Managing triggers and feeling safer in everyday life 38:24 - The lasting impact of trauma and ongoing vulnerability 42:01 - The challenges of feeling safe and concerns about future behavior 43:33 - Addressing fears around abuse and the importance of trauma-informed support 45:43 - Navigating the landscape of mental health support and barriers to access 47:19 - The dark moments: suicidal ideation and seeking help 50:06 - Breaking down stigma and supporting men's mental health and trauma recovery 52:14 - Advice for survivors: emotions, anger, and self-kindness 54:37 - Contemporary trauma therapy approaches and their effectiveness 55:48 - Final reflections: acceptance and the ongoing journey of healing

Joining us today is Crispin Thorold - a British-Canadian international communications specialist and former BBC foreign correspondent who has spent the past 25 years specialising mainly on conflicts, post-conflict situations and crisis areas. He has worked in more than 40 countries, including six war zones and multiple post-conflict regions. As a BBC correspondent Crispin was based in Northern Ireland, India, Afghanistan and the Middle East. As a comms leader he has worked closely with survivors of terrorism, torture and war. Now retraining as a psychotherapist and psychologist, he plans to build on his previous experience, to work with men who have been affected by conflict. His interest areas include trauma and addictions.   keywords journalism, crisis reporting, mental health, trauma, psychotherapy, conflict, emotional toll, news consumption, storytelling, human experience  summary Crispin Thorold, a former foreign correspondent now training as a psychotherapist, talks about his progress through crisis reporting, the emotional toll it takes, and the transition to understanding trauma from a psychological perspective. He discusses the challenges of reporting in conflict zones, the responsibility felt towards the affected populations, and the importance of mental health awareness in journalism. The conversation also touches on the impact of news consumption on society and the need for a more thoughtful approach to engaging with current events.  takeaways Crispin's journey into journalism was not planned but evolved from his interests. His background in history and international relations shaped his career. The emotional connection to the places and people he reported on was profound. Journalists often feel a responsibility to tell the stories of those suffering. The cycle of reporting can be mentally exhausting and challenging. Crispin highlights the long-lasting mental scars from war reporting. He emphasizes the importance of self-care for journalists. Transitioning to psychotherapy has allowed him to explore trauma more deeply. There is a growing awareness of mental health issues in journalism. Crispin advocates for a more thoughtful approach to news consumption.    sound bites "You feel a real responsibility." "The mental scars that it can leave on you." "I think there's a lot more awareness now." Chapters (timings approx.) 00:00 Introduction to Crispin Thorold's Journey 02:32 The Path to Foreign Correspondence 05:23 Understanding Conflict Through Personal History 08:03 The Responsibility of Reporting 11:25 Challenges in War Reporting 15:52 The Emotional Toll of Conflict Reporting 19:50 The Human Element in Journalism 23:59 Trauma and Dissociation in Journalists 25:28 Experiencing Trauma in War Zones 27:40 Coping Mechanisms and Personal Healing 30:23 Transitioning from Journalism to Advocacy 33:11 The Impact of Trauma on Journalistic Work 35:35 Organizational Support for Journalists 38:59 The Need for Accessible Mental Health Resources 40:51 Rethinking News Consumption 48:25 Concluding Thoughts on Trauma and Healing 49:16 Ten second outro video.

Joining us today is Crispin Thorold - a British-Canadian international communications specialist and former BBC foreign correspondent who has spent the past 25 years specialising mainly on conflicts, post-conflict situations and crisis areas. He has worked in more than 40 countries, including six war zones and multiple post-conflict regions. As a BBC correspondent Crispin was based in Northern Ireland, India, Afghanistan and the Middle East. As a communications leader he has worked closely with survivors of terrorism, torture and war. Now retraining as a psychotherapist and psychologist, he plans to build on his previous experience, to work with men who have been affected by conflict. His interest areas include trauma and addictions.   keywords journalism, crisis reporting, mental health, trauma, psychotherapy, conflict, emotional toll, news consumption, storytelling, human experience  summary Crispin Thorold, a former foreign correspondent now training as a psychotherapist, talks about his progress through crisis reporting, the emotional toll it takes, and the transition to understanding trauma from a psychological perspective. He discusses the challenges of reporting in conflict zones, the responsibility felt towards the affected populations, and the importance of mental health awareness in journalism. The conversation also touches on the impact of news consumption on society and the need for a more thoughtful approach to engaging with current events.  takeaways Crispin's journey into journalism was not planned but evolved from his interests. His background in history and international relations shaped his career. The emotional connection to the places and people he reported on was profound. Journalists often feel a responsibility to tell the stories of those suffering. The cycle of reporting can be mentally exhausting and challenging. Crispin highlights the long-lasting mental scars from war reporting. He emphasizes the importance of self-care for journalists. Transitioning to psychotherapy has allowed him to explore trauma more deeply. There is a growing awareness of mental health issues in journalism. Crispin advocates for a more thoughtful approach to news consumption.   sound bites "You feel a real responsibility." "The mental scars that it can leave on you." "I think there's a lot more awareness now." Chapters (timings approx.) 00:00 Introduction to Crispin Thorold's Journey 02:32 The Path to Foreign Correspondence 05:23 Understanding Conflict Through Personal History 08:03 The Responsibility of Reporting 11:25 Challenges in War Reporting 15:52 The Emotional Toll of Conflict Reporting 19:50 The Human Element in Journalism 23:59 Trauma and Dissociation in Journalists 25:28 Experiencing Trauma in War Zones 27:40 Coping Mechanisms and Personal Healing 30:23 Transitioning from Journalism to Advocacy 33:11 The Impact of Trauma on Journalistic Work 35:35 Organizational Support for Journalists 38:59 The Need for Accessible Mental Health Resources 40:51 Rethinking News Consumption 48:25 Concluding Thoughts on Trauma and Healing 49:16 Ten second outro video.

Summary In this conversation, Kate Eves shares her extensive experience in researching and investigating deaths in custody, discussing the complexities and challenges faced by professionals in this field. She highlights the importance of understanding the human stories behind the statistics, the impact of media narratives on public perception, and the need for transparency and accountability in death investigations. The discussion also touches on the emotional toll of this work, the inquest process, and the lessons that can be learned from past investigations. Keywords death, custody, investigations, mental health, media narratives, transparency, accountability, inquests, criminal justice, coping mechanisms Bio: Kate has over 25 years' experience of conducting research, inspections and investigations within custodial environments, in the UK and the US. Kate has worked with HM Inspectorate of Prisons, the Prisons and Probation Ombudsman, the Forum for Preventing Deaths in Custody and HM Prison Service, where she led on the national strategy for reducing violence in custody. Kate has also worked with numerous prison and jail systems in the United States to improve detention conditions and increase accountability following deaths and serious violence. Kate recently chaired the UK government's first statutory inquiry into mistreatment in immigration detention, during which she found evidence of abuse contrary to international human rights legislation. She is a member of the Independent Advisory Panel on Deaths in Custody, a group of experts who advise the UK government on the prevention of deaths in all forms of state custody. Takeaways Kate Eves transitioned from law to criminology, focusing on the aftermath of criminal cases. Investigating deaths in custody requires a balance of objectivity and empathy. The emotional impact of reviewing traumatic cases can be significant for professionals. Media narratives shape public understanding of policing-related deaths. Transparency in death investigations is crucial for accountability. Inquests serve as a fact-finding exercise but can be intimidating for families. Blame and shame can complicate the inquest process. Learning from past investigations is often hindered by systemic issues. Coping mechanisms are essential for professionals in high-stress roles. Death is the ultimate leveller, affecting everyone regardless of status.  sound bites "I think it is really easy to kind of forget that." "The ultimate leveler, isn't it?" "You just have to be very aware of it." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Kate Eves and Her Career 08:00 Exploring Policing Related Deaths 15:48 Investigating Deaths in Custody 20:45 Challenges in Death Investigation 23:57 The Inquest Process and Its Emotional Toll 26:42 Understanding Inquests and Their Challenges 30:18 The Role of Blame and Shame in Inquests 33:49 Learning from Inquests: Challenges and Opportunities 35:28 Confronting Death: Perspectives and Insights 40:40 Finding Hope in Difficult Work 45:26 Coping with Moral Injury in Challenging Environments

Summary In this conversation, Kate Eves shares her extensive experience in researching and investigating deaths in custody, discussing the complexities and challenges faced by professionals in this field. She highlights the importance of understanding the human stories behind the statistics, the impact of media narratives on public perception, and the need for transparency and accountability in death investigations. The discussion also touches on the emotional toll of this work, the inquest process, and the lessons that can be learned from past investigations. Keywords death, custody, investigations, mental health, media narratives, transparency, accountability, inquests, criminal justice, coping mechanisms Bio: Kate has over 25 years' experience of conducting research, inspections and investigations within custodial environments, in the UK and the US. Kate has worked with HM Inspectorate of Prisons, the Prisons and Probation Ombudsman, the Forum for Preventing Deaths in Custody and HM Prison Service, where she led on the national strategy for reducing violence in custody. Kate has also worked with numerous prison and jail systems in the United States to improve detention conditions and increase accountability following deaths and serious violence. Kate recently chaired the UK government's first statutory inquiry into mistreatment in immigration detention, during which she found evidence of abuse contrary to international human rights legislation. She is a member of the Independent Advisory Panel on Deaths in Custody, a group of experts who advise the UK government on the prevention of deaths in all forms of state custody. Takeaways Kate Eves transitioned from law to criminology, focusing on the aftermath of criminal cases. Investigating deaths in custody requires a balance of objectivity and empathy. The emotional impact of reviewing traumatic cases can be significant for professionals. Media narratives shape public understanding of policing-related deaths. Transparency in death investigations is crucial for accountability. Inquests serve as a fact-finding exercise but can be intimidating for families. Blame and shame can complicate the inquest process. Learning from past investigations is often hindered by systemic issues. Coping mechanisms are essential for professionals in high-stress roles. Death is the ultimate leveller, affecting everyone regardless of status.  sound bites "I think it is really easy to kind of forget that." "The ultimate leveler, isn't it?" "You just have to be very aware of it." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Kate Eves and Her Career 08:00 Exploring Policing Related Deaths 15:48 Investigating Deaths in Custody 20:45 Challenges in Death Investigation 23:57 The Inquest Process and Its Emotional Toll 26:42 Understanding Inquests and Their Challenges 30:18 The Role of Blame and Shame in Inquests 33:49 Learning from Inquests: Challenges and Opportunities 35:28 Confronting Death: Perspectives and Insights 40:40 Finding Hope in Difficult Work 45:26 Coping with Moral Injury in Challenging Environments

Keywords childhood trauma, MDMA therapy, sexual abuse, repressed memories, family dynamics, forgiveness, healing, survivor stories, therapy, mental health Summary In this conversation, Daniel shares his profound journey of healing from childhood trauma and sexual abuse. He discusses the complexities of uncovering repressed memories, the role of MDMA therapy in his recovery, and the challenges he faced in disclosing his experiences to his family. Daniel emphasizes the importance of understanding grooming and conditioning, the struggle with forgiveness, and the significance of sharing one's story as a means of reclaiming dignity and sovereignty. He also offers valuable insights for therapists working with survivors of trauma, highlighting the need for compassion and understanding in the healing process. Takeaways Daniel's journey began with a struggle against self-hatred and trauma. MDMA therapy played a crucial role in uncovering repressed memories. The process of reliving trauma can be both painful and transformative. Family dynamics can complicate the disclosure of abuse. Grooming and conditioning are key factors in understanding abuse. Forgiveness is a complex and personal journey for survivors. Setting boundaries is essential for healing and self-preservation. Support networks are vital for survivors of trauma. Sharing one's story can be empowering and healing. Therapists should approach survivors with compassion and understanding.   Chapters (timings approx) 00:00 Introduction to Daniel's Journey 01:46 Uncovering Childhood Trauma 05:11 The Role of MDMA Therapy 08:37 The Impact of Repressed Memories 12:25 Family Dynamics and Disclosure 17:33 Understanding Grooming and Conditioning 21:48 The Complexity of Forgiveness 26:13 Advice for Therapists Working with Survivors 30:18 Finding Healing and Support 42:50 The Power of Sharing Your Story

Keywords childhood trauma, MDMA therapy, sexual abuse, repressed memories, family dynamics, forgiveness, healing, survivor stories, therapy, mental health Summary In this conversation, Daniel shares his profound journey of healing from childhood trauma and sexual abuse. He discusses the complexities of uncovering repressed memories, the role of MDMA therapy in his recovery, and the challenges he faced in disclosing his experiences to his family. Daniel emphasizes the importance of understanding grooming and conditioning, the struggle with forgiveness, and the significance of sharing one's story as a means of reclaiming dignity and sovereignty. He also offers valuable insights for therapists working with survivors of trauma, highlighting the need for compassion and understanding in the healing process. Takeaways Daniel's journey began with a struggle against self-hatred and trauma. MDMA therapy played a crucial role in uncovering repressed memories. The process of reliving trauma can be both painful and transformative. Family dynamics can complicate the disclosure of abuse. Grooming and conditioning are key factors in understanding abuse. Forgiveness is a complex and personal journey for survivors. Setting boundaries is essential for healing and self-preservation. Support networks are vital for survivors of trauma. Sharing one's story can be empowering and healing. Therapists should approach survivors with compassion and understanding.   Chapters (timings approx) 00:00 Introduction to Daniel's Journey 01:46 Uncovering Childhood Trauma 05:11 The Role of MDMA Therapy 08:37 The Impact of Repressed Memories 12:25 Family Dynamics and Disclosure 17:33 Understanding Grooming and Conditioning 21:48 The Complexity of Forgiveness 26:13 Advice for Therapists Working with Survivors 30:18 Finding Healing and Support 42:50 The Power of Sharing Your Story

In this episode, renowned neurophysiologist Jonathan Cole meets David and Naomi and shares insights on how our physical body shapes our sense of self, communication, and emotional life. We delve into how physical conditions influence identity, the importance of embodiment, and the nuances of non-verbal communication in human experience. Key topics: The role of neurophysiology in understanding sensory and motor deficits How loss of movement or sensation affects personal identity and social perception The impact of facial paralysis, disfigurement, and cosmetic surgery on social interaction and emotion The significance of gesture, posture, and body language in communication Differences in experiencing congenital vs. acquired conditions like blindness and deafness How embodiment influences mental health and self-awareness The societal implications of physical diversity and discrimination Timestamps: (Approx)  00:00 - Introducing Jonathan Cole: Neurophysiology and accessible science 02:20 - How the nervous impulse explains bodily function and its narrative in literature 03:48 - Living without proprioception: Ian Waterman's story 06:30 - The curiosity-driven career bridging science and literature 08:37 - Embodiment and our automatic movements 10:22 - Practical challenges faced by those with proprioception loss 12:55 - The daily marathon of adapting to bodily disabilities 15:07 - Embodiment's effect on self-identity and social perception 16:47 - How social identity shifts with physical conditions like disfigurement or paralysis 18:48 - The importance of societal acceptance and personal resilience 22:03 - Visual vs. auditory vs. congenital vs. acquired sensory loss 25:10 - The process of adapting after spinal cord injuries and the role of community 27:29 - How embodiment influences verbal and non-verbal communication 30:49 - The role of body language and prosody in expressing emotion 34:22 - Embodiment and emotional expression: stories of women regaining feeling 37:10 - Cosmetic interventions, aging, and emotional expression 41:07 - Gesture impairments and their impact on relationships 43:20 - How physical expression (or lack thereof) influences support-seeking and social support 46:37 - Recognizing true character beyond facial cues 47:49 - Society's empathy and inclusion for embodied diversity 50:10 - The importance of understanding psychological and physical impairments Resources & Links: Hard Talk by Jonathan Cole https://blackwells.co.uk/bookshop/product/Hard-Talk-by-Jonathan-Cole/9780262049566?srsltid=AfmBOop5VwVWOtq9Q9DYvXR7jan_GAkc9HX_yJGbT294qjKQlQBgbM7V Chekhov's Sakhalin Journey: Doctor, Humanitarian, Writer (Paperback). Jonathan Cole https://www.waterstones.com/book/chekhovs-sakhalin-journey/jonathan-cole/9781350367517   Note:  The discussion underscores the profound connection between our physical embodiment and our emotional, social, and psychological selves. Recognizing and accommodating physical diversity enhances societal empathy and supports human connection.

In this episode, renowned neurophysiologist Jonathan Cole shares insights on how our physical body shapes our sense of self, communication, and emotional life. We delve into how physical conditions influence identity, the importance of embodiment, and the nuances of non-verbal communication in human experience. Key topics: The role of neurophysiology in understanding sensory and motor deficits How loss of movement or sensation affects personal identity and social perception The impact of facial paralysis, disfigurement, and cosmetic surgery on social interaction and emotion The significance of gesture, posture, and body language in communication Differences in experiencing congenital vs. acquired conditions like blindness and deafness How embodiment influences mental health and self-awareness The societal implications of physical diversity and discrimination Timestamps: (Approx)  00:00 - Introducing Jonathan Cole: Neurophysiology and accessible science 02:20 - How the nervous impulse explains bodily function and its narrative in literature 03:48 - Living without proprioception: Ian Waterman's story 06:30 - The curiosity-driven career bridging science and literature 08:37 - Embodiment and our automatic movements 10:22 - Practical challenges faced by those with proprioception loss 12:55 - The daily marathon of adapting to bodily disabilities 15:07 - Embodiment's effect on self-identity and social perception 16:47 - How social identity shifts with physical conditions like disfigurement or paralysis 18:48 - The importance of societal acceptance and personal resilience 22:03 - Visual vs. auditory vs. congenital vs. acquired sensory loss 25:10 - The process of adapting after spinal cord injuries and the role of community 27:29 - How embodiment influences verbal and non-verbal communication 30:49 - The role of body language and prosody in expressing emotion 34:22 - Embodiment and emotional expression: stories of women regaining feeling 37:10 - Cosmetic interventions, aging, and emotional expression 41:07 - Gesture impairments and their impact on relationships 43:20 - How physical expression (or lack thereof) influences support-seeking and social support 46:37 - Recognizing true character beyond facial cues 47:49 - Society's empathy and inclusion for embodied diversity 50:10 - The importance of understanding psychological and physical impairments Resources & Links: Hard Talk by Jonathan Cole https://blackwells.co.uk/bookshop/product/Hard-Talk-by-Jonathan-Cole/9780262049566?srsltid=AfmBOop5VwVWOtq9Q9DYvXR7jan_GAkc9HX_yJGbT294qjKQlQBgbM7V Chekhov's Sakhalin Journey: Doctor, Humanitarian, Writer (Paperback). Jonathan Cole https://www.waterstones.com/book/chekhovs-sakhalin-journey/jonathan-cole/9781350367517   Note:  The discussion underscores the profound connection between our physical embodiment and our emotional, social, and psychological selves. Recognizing and accommodating physical diversity enhances societal empathy and supports human connection.    

Keywords boarding school, trauma, recovery, family dynamics, sexual abuse, journalism, heritage, slavery, mental health, societal change Summary In this conversation, journalist Alex Renton discusses the profound impact of his boarding school experiences on his life and career. He reflects on the trauma associated with his time at school, including issues of abuse and the challenges of speaking out. Renton also explores the complexities of family dynamics, particularly in relation to his own experiences and the legacy of his family's involvement in slavery. Throughout the discussion, he emphasizes the importance of openness, empathy, and responsibility in addressing these difficult topics and fostering healing. Takeaways Alex Renton reflects on the lifelong impact of negative boarding school experiences. His career as a journalist was influenced by his skepticism towards authority. Alex began writing about boarding schools after learning about abuse cases at his former school. He emphasizes the importance of speaking out against abuse and the challenges that come with it. The conversation highlights the need for empathy towards survivors of abuse. Family dynamics play a crucial role in how individuals cope with trauma. Alex discusses the prevalence of abuse in boarding schools and the need for systemic change. He explores his family's history of involvement in slavery and its emotional implications. The importance of openness and transparency in healing from trauma is emphasized. Alex advocates for better communication and understanding in addressing issues of abuse.   Sound bites "I think, you know, I mean, I do talk people do." "I think we still sending children into danger." "I think we have to talk and we have to open."   Chapters (Timings approx) 00:00 The Impact of Boarding School Experiences 09:11 The Long-Term Effects of Trauma 18:08 Navigating Relationships with Parents 21:22 Stereotypes of Boarding School Education 24:43 Encouraging Disclosure and Support 27:44 The Prevalence of Abuse in Boarding Schools 29:47 Barriers to Disclosure: The Male Perspective 32:25 Societal Attitudes Towards Male Victims 34:30 Exploring Family Legacy and Historical Injustices 39:16 Healing Through Openness and Responsibility 43:26 Current Projects: A Hopeful Future for Child Safety 46:54 Ten second outro video.mp4

Keywords boarding school, trauma, recovery, family dynamics, sexual abuse, journalism, heritage, slavery, mental health, societal change Summary In this conversation, journalist Alex Renton discusses the profound impact of his boarding school experiences on his life and career. He reflects on the trauma associated with his time at school, including issues of abuse and the challenges of speaking out. Renton also explores the complexities of family dynamics, particularly in relation to his own experiences and the legacy of his family's involvement in slavery. Throughout the discussion, he emphasizes the importance of openness, empathy, and responsibility in addressing these difficult topics and fostering healing. Takeaways Alex Renton reflects on the lifelong impact of negative boarding school experiences. His career as a journalist was influenced by his skepticism towards authority. Alex began writing about boarding schools after learning about abuse cases at his former school. He emphasizes the importance of speaking out against abuse and the challenges that come with it. The conversation highlights the need for empathy towards survivors of abuse. Family dynamics play a crucial role in how individuals cope with trauma. Alex discusses the prevalence of abuse in boarding schools and the need for systemic change. He explores his family's history of involvement in slavery and its emotional implications. The importance of openness and transparency in healing from trauma is emphasized. Alex advocates for better communication and understanding in addressing issues of abuse.   Sound bites "I think, you know, I mean, I do talk people do." "I think we still sending children into danger." "I think we have to talk and we have to open."   Chapters (Timings approx) 00:00 The Impact of Boarding School Experiences 09:11 The Long-Term Effects of Trauma 18:08 Navigating Relationships with Parents 21:22 Stereotypes of Boarding School Education 24:43 Encouraging Disclosure and Support 27:44 The Prevalence of Abuse in Boarding Schools 29:47 Barriers to Disclosure: The Male Perspective 32:25 Societal Attitudes Towards Male Victims 34:30 Exploring Family Legacy and Historical Injustices 39:16 Healing Through Openness and Responsibility 43:26 Current Projects: A Hopeful Future for Child Safety 46:54 Ten second outro video.mp4

  Summary Rochelle Marashi, a psychotherapist, discusses her research on stalking and coercive control, emphasizing the importance of not labeling women as victims but as targets. She shares insights on the challenges of identifying stalking, the role of media in shaping perceptions, and the need for a multidisciplinary approach in therapy. Rochelle also highlights the psychological impact of stalking and the importance of therapists understanding the nuances of such experiences. Check out Rochelle's website for more information, https://metacog.co.uk/ Khttps://metacog.co.uk/eywordshttps://metacog.co.uk/   keywords Rochelle Marashi, stalking, coercive control, psychotherapy, media influence, psychological impact, multidisciplinary approach, victim vs target, therapist awareness, safety planning Takeaways Rochelle Marashi prefers the term 'targets' over 'victims'. Stalking is calculated and targeted, not by default. Media often romanticizes stalking, affecting public perception. Therapists should name stalking to help clients understand. Stalking can lead to terror, trauma, and isolation. A multidisciplinary approach is crucial for support. Therapists' awareness can aid in client disclosure. Stalking isn't always recognized by clients or therapists. Therapists should use minimal notes to protect clients. Understanding stalking's escalation is vital for safety.   Sound bites 'Stalking is calculated and targeted.' 'Media romanticizes stalking.' 'Therapists should name stalking.' 'Stalking leads to terror and trauma.' 'A multidisciplinary approach is crucial.' 'Therapists' awareness aids disclosure.' 'Stalking isn't always recognized.' 'Use minimal notes to protect clients.' 'Understanding escalation is vital.'

Summary Rochelle Marashi, a psychotherapist, discusses her research on stalking and coercive control, emphasizing the importance of not labeling women as victims but as targets. She shares insights on the challenges of identifying stalking, the role of media in shaping perceptions, and the need for a multidisciplinary approach in therapy. Rochelle also highlights the psychological impact of stalking and the importance of therapists understanding the nuances of such experiences. Check out Rochelle's website for more information, https://metacog.co.uk/ Khttps://metacog.co.uk/eywordshttps://metacog.co.uk/   keywords Rochelle Marashi, stalking, coercive control, psychotherapy, media influence, psychological impact, multidisciplinary approach, victim vs target, therapist awareness, safety planning Takeaways Rochelle Marashi prefers the term 'targets' over 'victims'. Stalking is calculated and targeted, not by default. Media often romanticizes stalking, affecting public perception. Therapists should name stalking to help clients understand. Stalking can lead to terror, trauma, and isolation. A multidisciplinary approach is crucial for support. Therapists' awareness can aid in client disclosure. Stalking isn't always recognized by clients or therapists. Therapists should use minimal notes to protect clients. Understanding stalking's escalation is vital for safety.   Sound bites 'Stalking is calculated and targeted.' 'Media romanticizes stalking.' 'Therapists should name stalking.' 'Stalking leads to terror and trauma.' 'A multidisciplinary approach is crucial.' 'Therapists' awareness aids disclosure.' 'Stalking isn't always recognized.' 'Use minimal notes to protect clients.' 'Understanding escalation is vital.'

Keywords forensic psychology, ADHD, prison system, independent practice, emotional wellbeing, mental health, trauma-informed care, psychological assessments, private practice, risk assessment Summary In this conversation, Jo West, a consultant forensic psychologist, shares her journey from working in the prison service to establishing her independent practice. She discusses the challenges and differences she observed between male and female prison environments, her experiences with ADHD, and the importance of emotional wellbeing in her field. Jo emphasizes the need for trauma-informed care and the complexities of psychological assessments, particularly in the context of ADHD diagnoses. Takeaways Jo West transitioned from the prison service to independent practice. She found the prison environment both daunting and rewarding. Jo emphasizes the importance of trauma-informed care in women's prisons. She has a passion for supporting individuals with ADHD. Jo's late diagnosis of ADHD provided clarity on her life experiences. She highlights the challenges of working in private practice without a team. Jo believes in the importance of thorough psychological assessments. She uses mindfulness and DBT skills for her own emotional wellbeing. Jo discusses the pressure of expectations in ADHD assessments. She finds fulfillment in reducing the chance of reoffending through her work.   Sound bites   "I think it was really trauma-informed." "I think it can be frustrating." "I had to come to terms with all that."   Chapters   00:00 Transitioning from Prison Service to Independent Practice 01:32 Journey to Forensic Psychology 04:19 Experiences in Men's vs. Women's Prisons 07:42 Current Work as an Independent Psychologist 08:37 Navigating Parole Hearings 13:02 Challenges of Private Practice 16:12 ADHD Diagnosis and Its Impact 19:16 Expectations Around ADHD Assessments 21:40 Emotional Wellbeing in Forensic Psychology

Keywords forensic psychology, ADHD, prison system, independent practice, emotional wellbeing, mental health, trauma-informed care, psychological assessments, private practice, risk assessment Summary In this conversation, Jo West, a consultant forensic psychologist, shares her journey from working in the prison service to establishing her independent practice. She discusses the challenges and differences she observed between male and female prison environments, her experiences with ADHD, and the importance of emotional wellbeing in her field. Jo emphasizes the need for trauma-informed care and the complexities of psychological assessments, particularly in the context of ADHD diagnoses. Takeaways Jo West transitioned from the prison service to independent practice. She found the prison environment both daunting and rewarding. Jo emphasizes the importance of trauma-informed care in women's prisons. She has a passion for supporting individuals with ADHD. Jo's late diagnosis of ADHD provided clarity on her life experiences. She highlights the challenges of working in private practice without a team. Jo believes in the importance of thorough psychological assessments. She uses mindfulness and DBT skills for her own emotional wellbeing. Jo discusses the pressure of expectations in ADHD assessments. She finds fulfillment in reducing the chance of reoffending through her work.   Sound bites "I think it was really trauma-informed." "I think it can be frustrating." "I had to come to terms with all that."   Chapters (Times are approx) 00:00 Transitioning from Prison Service to Independent Practice 01:32 Journey to Forensic Psychology 04:19 Experiences in Men's vs. Women's Prisons 07:42 Current Work as an Independent Psychologist 08:37 Navigating Parole Hearings 13:02 Challenges of Private Practice 16:12 ADHD Diagnosis and Its Impact 19:16 Expectations Around ADHD Assessments 21:40 Emotional Wellbeing in Forensic Psychology

Summary In this conversation Feminist Criminologist Kathryn Whiteley discusses her extensive research on women who commit serious crimes, focusing on their unique experiences, the impact of sentencing, and the role of trauma and motherhood. She emphasizes the importance of feminist criminology in understanding women's pathways to crime and the influence of media on public perceptions. Kathryn also shares insights from her podcast and documentary, highlighting the need for authentic representation of women's stories in the criminal justice system. Throughout the discussion, she reflects on the challenges and rewards of her work, maintaining a positive outlook despite the difficult subject matter. https://www.kathrynmwhiteley.com/ Keywords women, crime, incarceration, sentencing, trauma, motherhood, feminist criminology, media influence, research methodology, podcast   Takeaways Kathryn's research began with a fascination for women and crime. Volunteering in prisons shaped her research agenda. Each woman's story is unique; generalizations are misleading. Sentencing length varies significantly across countries. Hope and identity are influenced by the length of sentences. Many women in prison face abandonment from families over time. Feminist criminology focuses on understanding women's pathways to crime. Media portrayal often sensationalizes female offenders. Kathryn's podcast provides a platform for women's voices. Maintaining positivity comes from gratitude and learning from women.     Sound Bites "I'm fascinated about women and crime." "Not all women in prison are victims." "Media can re-traumatize victims' families." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Women and Crime 03:32 Volunteer Work and Research Foundations 06:12 Comparative Analysis of Women's Incarceration 09:10 Sentencing and Its Impact on Hope 11:33 Faith and Resilience in Incarceration 14:17 Research Questions and Methodology 17:08 Key Findings and Insights 19:59 Understanding Victimization and Offending 27:49 Understanding Feminist Criminology 29:17 Challenges of Feminist Criminology 31:12 Building Trust with Incarcerated Women 36:00 The Role of Follow-Up in Research 38:22 Ethics and Integrity in Research 40:58 Giving a Voice to Incarcerated Women 45:33 Media Consumption and Female Crime 51:27 Podcasting and Documentaries on Female Offenders   Kathryn M. Whiteley Ph.D. Consultant: Feminist Criminologist (Ph.D. from Queensland University of Technology,– Brisbane Australia) Internationally acclaimed: Feminist Criminologist – consultant, academic, documentary producer and podcast host and co-producer. Originally from Australia and has now lived in Pennsylvania in the United States for almost 20 years. She has taught in academia in Australia and the United States for over 20 years. Her research focuses on Gender and Crime, specifically women who commit violent crimes. I.e., women who commit murder and or sexual offenses. Has over two decades of experience, navigating administrative procedures, entering and conducting individual interviews in women's prisons across three countries - Australia, the United States and Ireland. She has personally interviewed over 100 women, and engaged with many more, beyond her research, who are incarcerated for long to life and life without parole sentences, predominately in Pennsylvania and Texas, in the United States. A qualitative researcher, who presents a platform for incarcerated women's life stories through a narrative analysis approach. Women share their pathway to criminality and the life they now endure, from behind bars. Many until they die. She has published in peer reviewed journals, book chapters and produced an educational documentary, and a podcast series in women's maximum-security prisons. She is currently writing a book which shares life stories of women incarcerated for life in the United States. Her goal is for incarcerated women who have committed violent crimes to “have a voice!” Website: kathrynmwhiteley.com LinkedIn: Kathryn Whiteley Documentary (YouTube): Until We Have Faces (Women Serving Life)

Summary In this conversation criminologist Kathryn Whiteley discusses her extensive research on women who commit serious crimes, focusing on their unique experiences, the impact of sentencing, and the role of trauma and motherhood. She emphasizes the importance of feminist criminology in understanding women's pathways to crime and the influence of media on public perceptions. Kathryn also shares insights from her podcast and documentary, highlighting the need for authentic representation of women's stories in the criminal justice system. Throughout the discussion, she reflects on the challenges and rewards of her work, maintaining a positive outlook despite the difficult subject matter. https://www.kathrynmwhiteley.com/ Keywords women, crime, incarceration, sentencing, trauma, motherhood, feminist criminology, media influence, research methodology, podcast   Takeaways Kathryn's research began with a fascination for women and crime. Volunteering in prisons shaped her research agenda. Each woman's story is unique; generalizations are misleading. Sentencing length varies significantly across countries. Hope and identity are influenced by the length of sentences. Many women in prison face abandonment from families over time. Feminist criminology focuses on understanding women's pathways to crime. Media portrayal often sensationalizes female offenders. Kathryn's podcast provides a platform for women's voices. Maintaining positivity comes from gratitude and learning from women.   Sound Bites "I'm fascinated about women and crime." "Not all women in prison are victims." "Media can re-traumatize victims' families." Chapters (timings approx) 00:00 Introduction to Women and Crime 03:32 Volunteer Work and Research Foundations 06:12 Comparative Analysis of Women's Incarceration 09:10 Sentencing and Its Impact on Hope 11:33 Faith and Resilience in Incarceration 14:17 Research Questions and Methodology 17:08 Key Findings and Insights 19:59 Understanding Victimization and Offending 27:49 Understanding Feminist Criminology 29:17 Challenges of Feminist Criminology 31:12 Building Trust with Incarcerated Women 36:00 The Role of Follow-Up in Research 38:22 Ethics and Integrity in Research 40:58 Giving a Voice to Incarcerated Women 45:33 Media Consumption and Female Crime 51:27 Podcasting and Documentaries on Female Offenders   Kathryn M. Whiteley Ph.D. Consultant: Feminist Criminologist (Ph.D. from Queensland University of Technology,– Brisbane Australia) Internationally acclaimed: Feminist Criminologist – consultant, academic, documentary producer and podcast host and co-producer. Originally from Australia and has now lived in Pennsylvania in the United States for almost 20 years. She has taught in academia in Australia and the United States for over 20 years. Her research focuses on Gender and Crime, specifically women who commit violent crimes. I.e., women who commit murder and or sexual offenses. Has over two decades of experience, navigating administrative procedures, entering and conducting individual interviews in women's prisons across three countries - Australia, the United States and Ireland. She has personally interviewed over 100 women, and engaged with many more, beyond her research, who are incarcerated for long to life and life without parole sentences, predominately in Pennsylvania and Texas, in the United States. A qualitative researcher, who presents a platform for incarcerated women's life stories through a narrative analysis approach. Women share their pathway to criminality and the life they now endure, from behind bars. Many until they die. She has published in peer reviewed journals, book chapters and produced an educational documentary, and a podcast series in women's maximum-security prisons. She is currently writing a book which shares life stories of women incarcerated for life in the United States. Her goal is for incarcerated women who have committed violent crimes to “have a voice!” Website: kathrynmwhiteley.com LinkedIn: Kathryn Whiteley Documentary (YouTube): Until We Have Faces (Women Serving Life)

Keywords mental health, psychiatry, obstetrics, quantum theory, love, consciousness, education, spirituality, prevention, emotional well-being Summary This episode of Locked Up Living explores how two doctors from very different specialties, a psychiatrist and an obstetrician/paediatrician, came together to change the way we understand and approach mental health. Shivam Dubey and Salel Gupta share their unique journey, discussing the urgent need for preventive mental health care and the ground breaking MindSync curriculum they've developed for schools. They highlight the lack of emotional education in traditional healthcare and school systems, and reveal how their program brings evidence-based life skills, resilience training, and social-emotional learning directly to children and adults in India, Dubai, and the US.   The discussion also takes a deep dive into the relationship between love, quantum theory, and mental well-being. Drawing from both Western science and Eastern philosophy, Dr Dubey and Dr Gupta examine how consciousness and compassion can reshape the way we think about health, learning, and adversity. If you're curious about holistic approaches to wellness, or how culture, spirituality, and modern medicine intersect in the quest for better mental health, this episode brings fresh insight and practical ideas for individuals, educators, and communities. Takeaways The collaboration between psychiatry and obstetrics can enhance preventive mental health. Love has a profound impact on mental health and healing. Quantum theory offers a new perspective on spirituality and consciousness. Mental health education is crucial for children and should be formalized in schools. Self-awareness and emotional skills are essential for personal development. Adversity can be a teacher if we reflect on our experiences. Compassion should be prioritized over competition in education. The Mind-Sync curriculum aims to integrate mental health education into schools. Mighty Champions of Mental Health empowers adults to support their communities. Selfless love is a key component of emotional well-being. titles Exploring the Intersection of Love and Quantum Theory The Healing Power of Love in Mental Health Sound Bites "Love is the healing factor." "Selfless love is the ultimate goal." "Adversity is meant for you to learn." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Dr. Dube and Dr. Gupta 02:34 The Journey of Dr. Dube and Dr. Gupta 07:29 Exploring Love and Quantum Theory 13:44 The Intersection of Science and Spirituality 26:21 The Need for Mental Health Education 31:55 Exploring Spirituality and Quantum Effects 37:21 Introducing the Mind-Sync Curriculum 43:41 Mental Health Education for All Ages 47:52 Mighty Champions of Mental Health 52:14 Self-Care and Emotional Well-Being 53:55

Keywords mental health, psychiatry, obstetrics, quantum theory, love, consciousness, education, spirituality, prevention, emotional well-being Summary This episode of Locked Up Living explores how two doctors from very different specialties, a psychiatrist and an obstetrician/paediatrician, came together to change the way we understand and approach mental health. Shivam Dubey and Salel Gupta share their unique journey, discussing the urgent need for preventive mental health care and the ground breaking MindSync curriculum they've developed for schools. They highlight the lack of emotional education in traditional healthcare and school systems, and reveal how their program brings evidence-based life skills, resilience training, and social-emotional learning directly to children and adults in India, Dubai, and the US.   The discussion also takes a deep dive into the relationship between love, quantum theory, and mental well-being. Drawing from both Western science and Eastern philosophy, Dr Dubey and Dr Gupta examine how consciousness and compassion can reshape the way we think about health, learning, and adversity. If you're curious about holistic approaches to wellness, or how culture, spirituality, and modern medicine intersect in the quest for better mental health, this episode brings fresh insight and practical ideas for individuals, educators, and communities. Takeaways The collaboration between psychiatry and obstetrics can enhance preventive mental health. Love has a profound impact on mental health and healing. Quantum theory offers a new perspective on spirituality and consciousness. Mental health education is crucial for children and should be formalized in schools. Self-awareness and emotional skills are essential for personal development. Adversity can be a teacher if we reflect on our experiences. Compassion should be prioritized over competition in education. The Mind-Sync curriculum aims to integrate mental health education into schools. Mighty Champions of Mental Health empowers adults to support their communities. Selfless love is a key component of emotional well-being. titles Exploring the Intersection of Love and Quantum Theory The Healing Power of Love in Mental Health Sound Bites "Love is the healing factor." "Selfless love is the ultimate goal." "Adversity is meant for you to learn." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Dr. Dube and Dr. Gupta 02:34 The Journey of Dr. Dube and Dr. Gupta 07:29 Exploring Love and Quantum Theory 13:44 The Intersection of Science and Spirituality 26:21 The Need for Mental Health Education 31:55 Exploring Spirituality and Quantum Effects 37:21 Introducing the Mind-Sync Curriculum 43:41 Mental Health Education for All Ages 47:52 Mighty Champions of Mental Health 52:14 Self-Care and Emotional Well-Being 53:55 Outro 

  In this episode of the Locked Up Living podcast, prison nurse Natalie Miller joins hosts Dr Naomi Murphy and David Jones to give an unfiltered look inside the world of UK prison healthcare. Sharing insights from her roles at High Down, Brixton, and Wormwood Scrubs, Natalie opens up about the realities and challenges of providing medical care in prison settings, ranging from understaffed healthcare teams to the daily pressures of emergency response and managing patients with complex needs. The conversation explores vital topics like staff-prisoner relationships, the impact of bureaucracy and double-documentation, working with older and vulnerable prisoners, and the emotional resilience required for this unique nursing role.   Listeners get a front-row seat to stories about advocating for the most forgotten populations, overcoming systemic barriers, and why compassionate, trauma-informed care is critical inside the justice system. Natalie also reflects on how her experiences have shaped her commitment to speaking up for prisoners' voices, both through her work and her recent TEDx talk. Whether you're interested in the intersection of healthcare and criminal justice, prison reform, or the human impact of institutional systems, this episode offers a deep, honest conversation packed with insight for healthcare professionals, prison staff, and anyone curious about life and work on the inside. Takeaways Natalie fell into nursing during a chaotic time in her life. Her passion for prison nursing stems from the people she serves. Building relationships with prison staff is crucial for effective healthcare. Communication barriers exist due to the unique prison environment. Bureaucracy can hinder the delivery of quality healthcare in prisons. Medication management poses significant challenges in prison settings. The emotional toll of prison nursing can be overwhelming. Advocacy for prisoners' rights is a key aspect of her role. Healthcare in prisons is essential for rehabilitation and reintegration. Maintaining well-being is vital for those working in challenging environments. Titles Inside the World of Prison Nursing The Heart of a Prison Nurse Sound bites "It's just about helping them." "It's a thankless role." "It's great, we have each other."     Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Nursing Journey 02:44 The Unique Challenges of Prison Nursing 05:35 Experiences in Different Prisons 08:07 Building Relationships in a Prison Environment 10:58 Communication Barriers in Prisons 13:32 Navigating Bureaucracy in Prison Healthcare 16:22 Medication Management Challenges 19:05 Coping with Chaos in Crisis Situations 21:56 The Importance of Compassion in Care 24:45 Advocating for Prisoners' Rights 27:29 The Role of Healthcare Staff in Rehabilitation 30:02 Maintaining Well-Being in a Demanding Role 32:50 Future Improvements in Prison Healthcare

In this episode of the Locked Up Living podcast, prison nurse Natalie Miller joins hosts Dr Naomi Murphy and David Jones to give an unfiltered look inside the world of UK prison healthcare. Sharing insights from her roles at High Down, Brixton, and Wormwood Scrubs, Natalie opens up about the realities and challenges of providing medical care in prison settings, ranging from understaffed healthcare teams to the daily pressures of emergency response and managing patients with complex needs. The conversation explores vital topics like staff-prisoner relationships, the impact of bureaucracy and double-documentation, working with older and vulnerable prisoners, and the emotional resilience required for this unique nursing role.   Listeners get a front-row seat to stories about advocating for the most forgotten populations, overcoming systemic barriers, and why compassionate, trauma-informed care is critical inside the justice system. Natalie also reflects on how her experiences have shaped her commitment to speaking up for prisoners' voices, both through her work and her recent TEDx talk. Whether you're interested in the intersection of healthcare and criminal justice, prison reform, or the human impact of institutional systems, this episode offers a deep, honest conversation packed with insight for healthcare professionals, prison staff, and anyone curious about life and work on the inside. Takeaways Natalie fell into nursing during a chaotic time in her life. Her passion for prison nursing stems from the people she serves. Building relationships with prison staff is crucial for effective healthcare. Communication barriers exist due to the unique prison environment. Bureaucracy can hinder the delivery of quality healthcare in prisons. Medication management poses significant challenges in prison settings. The emotional toll of prison nursing can be overwhelming. Advocacy for prisoners' rights is a key aspect of her role. Healthcare in prisons is essential for rehabilitation and reintegration. Maintaining well-being is vital for those working in challenging environments. Titles Inside the World of Prison Nursing The Heart of a Prison Nurse Sound bites "It's just about helping them." "It's a thankless role." "It's great, we have each other."     Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Nursing Journey 02:44 The Unique Challenges of Prison Nursing 05:35 Experiences in Different Prisons 08:07 Building Relationships in a Prison Environment 10:58 Communication Barriers in Prisons 13:32 Navigating Bureaucracy in Prison Healthcare 16:22 Medication Management Challenges 19:05 Coping with Chaos in Crisis Situations 21:56 The Importance of Compassion in Care 24:45 Advocating for Prisoners' Rights 27:29 The Role of Healthcare Staff in Rehabilitation 30:02 Maintaining Well-Being in a Demanding Role 32:50 Future Improvements in Prison Healthcare

Dan, Andy Woodward, Rafael Viola, Joe Sabien, Tobi Tarquin Summary This conversation features a group of five men discussing their experiences with male sexual abuse and the project 'Inside the Boys Club'. They emphasize the importance of raising awareness, creating a supportive community, and the need for justice and accountability. Personal stories highlight the long-lasting impact of abuse and the challenges of speaking out. The group aims to empower male survivors and foster collaboration for change, while also addressing the inadequacies of the judicial system and the importance of therapy in the healing process. Keywords male sexual abuse, awareness, support, mental health, collaboration, healing, justice, Inside the Boys Club, personal stories, community Takeaways The project aims to raise awareness about male sexual abuse. Boys comprise a significant number of sexual abuse victims. It takes men a long time to disclose their experiences. The importance of creating a supportive community for survivors. Collaboration among survivors can lead to greater impact. The judicial system often fails to support victims adequately. Therapy and professional help are crucial for healing. Speaking up can be a vital part of the healing process. There is a need for more awareness and support for male survivors. The project aims to create a platform for male voices.   Sound bites "We need to break the silence." "This is a global epidemic." "We're not alone anymore." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Inside the Boys Club 02:45 The Importance of Addressing Male Sexual Abuse 05:30 Personal Stories and Experiences of Abuse 10:58 The Need for Awareness and Support 13:40 The Role of Society and Institutions 16:34 The Impact of Power Dynamics on Abuse 22:15 The Broader Context of Abuse Across Demographics 27:49 The Challenges of Disclosure and Support 33:10 Advice for Survivors Seeking Help 37:23 The Ripple Effect of Speaking Up 39:27 Judicial System Challenges and Victim Support 43:37 Reclaiming Voice and Agency 45:43 The Struggle for a Voice in Inquiries 48:28 The Importance of Speaking Up 50:46 Post-Traumatic Growth and Resilience 56:23 Future Directions and Collective Action

Summary This conversation features a group of five men discussing their experiences with male sexual abuse and the project 'Inside the Boys Club'. They emphasize the importance of raising awareness, creating a supportive community, and the need for justice and accountability. Personal stories highlight the long-lasting impact of abuse and the challenges of speaking out. The group aims to empower male survivors and foster collaboration for change, while also addressing the inadequacies of the judicial system and the importance of therapy in the healing process. Keywords male sexual abuse, awareness, support, mental health, collaboration, healing, justice, Inside the Boys Club, personal stories, community Takeaways The project aims to raise awareness about male sexual abuse. Boys comprise a significant number of sexual abuse victims. It takes men a long time to disclose their experiences. The importance of creating a supportive community for survivors. Collaboration among survivors can lead to greater impact. The judicial system often fails to support victims adequately. Therapy and professional help are crucial for healing. Speaking up can be a vital part of the healing process. There is a need for more awareness and support for male survivors. The project aims to create a platform for male voices.   Sound bites "We need to break the silence." "This is a global epidemic." "We're not alone anymore." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Inside the Boys Club 02:45 The Importance of Addressing Male Sexual Abuse 05:30 Personal Stories and Experiences of Abuse 10:58 The Need for Awareness and Support 13:40 The Role of Society and Institutions 16:34 The Impact of Power Dynamics on Abuse 22:15 The Broader Context of Abuse Across Demographics 27:49 The Challenges of Disclosure and Support 33:10 Advice for Survivors Seeking Help 37:23 The Ripple Effect of Speaking Up 39:27 Judicial System Challenges and Victim Support 43:37 Reclaiming Voice and Agency 45:43 The Struggle for a Voice in Inquiries 48:28 The Importance of Speaking Up 50:46 Post-Traumatic Growth and Resilience 56:23 Future Directions and Collective Action

Keywords   psychology, debate, societal issues, equality, justice, racism, diagnostic systems, therapy, mental health, resilience Summary This conversation explores the state of psychology, focusing on the lack of serious debate within the field, the challenges of addressing societal issues such as racism and inequality, and the role of diagnosis in therapy. The speakers discuss the medicalization of everyday life, the historical context of psychological practices, and the importance of understanding individuals as whole beings rather than mere categories. They also reflect on the evolution of diagnostic systems and the implications for mental health treatment. Takeaways There is a significant lack of serious debate in psychology. Psychology often avoids discussing major societal issues. The medicalization of everyday life is a growing concern. Psychology tends to focus on individual solutions rather than systemic issues. Racism and institutional biases persist within psychological institutions. Diagnosis can provide comfort but may also mislead individuals. The relationship between therapist and client is crucial for effective therapy. There is a need for a formulation approach over traditional diagnosis. Psychology has a history of tolerating race science and needs to address it. Future directions for psychology should focus on equality and justice. Sound bites "We don't see nearly enough debate." "We need to change the way we work." "Diagnosis can provide comfort to individuals." Chapters 00:00 The State of Debate in Psychology 05:04 The Role of Psychology in Society 11:01 Personal Responsibility vs. Social Context 14:58 Values of Equality and Justice 17:05 Institutional Racism in Psychology 25:42 Reflections on Progress and Complacency 27:34 The Debate Within Psychology 30:35 The Business of Psychology 34:21 Therapeutic Relationships and Effectiveness 36:09 The Evolution of Diagnostic Systems 42:35 The Comfort of Diagnosis 48:36 Rethinking Diagnosis in Psychology 54:02 Outro Oct 23  2.mp4

Keywords psychology, debate, societal issues, equality, justice, racism, diagnostic systems, therapy, mental health, resilience Summary This conversation explores the state of psychology, focusing on the lack of serious debate within the field, the challenges of addressing societal issues such as racism and inequality, and the role of diagnosis in therapy. The speakers discuss the medicalization of everyday life, the historical context of psychological practices, and the importance of understanding individuals as whole beings rather than mere categories. They also reflect on the evolution of diagnostic systems and the implications for mental health treatment. Takeaways There is a significant lack of serious debate in psychology. Psychology often avoids discussing major societal issues. The medicalization of everyday life is a growing concern. Psychology tends to focus on individual solutions rather than systemic issues. Racism and institutional biases persist within psychological institutions. Diagnosis can provide comfort but may also mislead individuals. The relationship between therapist and client is crucial for effective therapy. There is a need for a formulation approach over traditional diagnosis. Psychology has a history of tolerating race science and needs to address it. Future directions for psychology should focus on equality and justice. Sound bites "We don't see nearly enough debate." "We need to change the way we work." "Diagnosis can provide comfort to individuals." Chapters 00:00 The State of Debate in Psychology 05:04 The Role of Psychology in Society 11:01 Personal Responsibility vs. Social Context 14:58 Values of Equality and Justice 17:05 Institutional Racism in Psychology 25:42 Reflections on Progress and Complacency 27:34 The Debate Within Psychology 30:35 The Business of Psychology 34:21 Therapeutic Relationships and Effectiveness 36:09 The Evolution of Diagnostic Systems 42:35 The Comfort of Diagnosis 48:36 Rethinking Diagnosis in Psychology 54:02 Outro Oct 23  2.mp4

  Introduction: In this episode, we are joined by Andrew MacLeod, a passionate advocate and lawyer who has dedicated his life to addressing the complex issues surrounding children born of war and the injustices they face. With a background in law and a personal journey marked by profound loss, Andrew has transformed his experiences into a powerful mission to help those in need. He is the founder of the organization "Hear Their Cries," which focuses on advocacy, legal support, and raising awareness about the plight of these vulnerable children. Andrew's resilience and commitment to finding solutions in the face of adversity shine through in this candid conversation, where he shares insights into his work, the emotional toll it takes, and the importance of building a legacy for future generations. Key Discussion Points:** - Andrew's personal journey and the impact of his mother's passing on his career choices. - The concept of Founder's Syndrome and the importance of succession planning in advocacy work. - The emotional challenges faced by whistleblowers and advocates in the field. - The role of pro bono lawyers in supporting vulnerable populations. - Insights into the organization "Hear Their Cries" and its mission. - The psychological and societal implications of the work surrounding children born of war. - Andrew's thoughts on resilience and coping mechanisms in the face of adversity.

Introduction: In this episode, we are joined by Andrew MacLeod, a passionate advocate and lawyer who has dedicated his life to addressing the complex issues surrounding children born of war and the injustices they face. With a background in law and a personal journey marked by profound loss, Andrew has transformed his experiences into a powerful mission to help those in need. He is the founder of the organization "Hear Their Cries," which focuses on advocacy, legal support, and raising awareness about the plight of these vulnerable children. Andrew's resilience and commitment to finding solutions in the face of adversity shine through in this candid conversation, where he shares insights into his work, the emotional toll it takes, and the importance of building a legacy for future generations. Key Discussion Points:** - Andrew's personal journey and the impact of his mother's passing on his career choices. - The concept of Founder's Syndrome and the importance of succession planning in advocacy work. - The emotional challenges faced by whistleblowers and advocates in the field. - The role of pro bono lawyers in supporting vulnerable populations. - Insights into the organization "Hear Their Cries" and its mission. - The psychological and societal implications of the work surrounding children born of war. - Andrew's thoughts on resilience and coping mechanisms in the face of adversity.

Keywords Oxfam, safeguarding, sexual exploitation, whistleblowing, autism, media coverage, aid sector, leadership, moral injury, charity Takeaways Helen Evans was the global head of safeguarding at Oxfam. She uncovered systemic issues of sexual exploitation and abuse within the organization. Despite her efforts, she faced resistance from senior management. The media coverage of Oxfam's issues came after the Me Too movement gained traction. Helen experienced PTSD due to the stress of her role and the lack of support. There is a significant stigma attached to whistleblowers in the UK. Many survivors of abuse do not report due to fear of not being believed. Helen advocates for mandatory safeguarding measures in aid organizations. She now works as the CEO of a charity focused on a rare neurological condition. https://cavernoma.org.uk/about/our-team/ Summary In this conversation, Helen Evans shares her harrowing experience as the global head of safeguarding at Oxfam, where she uncovered systemic issues of sexual exploitation and abuse. Despite her efforts to address these issues, she faced significant resistance from senior management, leading her to take her concerns to the Charity Commission. Helen discusses the impact of her experiences on her mental health, including a diagnosis of PTSD, and reflects on the stigma surrounding whistleblowers. She advocates for improved safeguarding measures in the aid sector and emphasizes the need for a dedicated regulator to hold organizations accountable. Now serving as the CEO of a charity focused on a rare neurological condition, Helen continues to champion the importance of ethical practices in aid work and the need for organizations to prioritize safeguarding vulnerable populations. Sound bites "This was a systemic issue." "I had to relocate. I lost my home." "I think there have been improvements." Chapters 00:00 Uncovering the Truth at Oxfam 03:59 The Impact of Whistleblowing 06:53 The Role of Media and Public Awareness 09:48 Courage and the Personal Cost of Speaking Out 12:51 The Intersection of Autism and Advocacy 15:45 Challenges in the Aid Sector 18:51 Improving Safeguarding Practices 21:59 The Need for Accountability in Charities 24:42 Reflections on Leadership and Change 27:39 The Future of Safeguarding in Aid Work 30:36 Personal Healing and Moving Forward 44:38 Outro Oct 23  2.mp4  

Keywords Oxfam, safeguarding, sexual exploitation, whistleblowing, autism, media coverage, aid sector, leadership, moral injury, charity Takeaways Helen Evans was the global head of safeguarding at Oxfam. She uncovered systemic issues of sexual exploitation and abuse within the organization. Despite her efforts, she faced resistance from senior management. The media coverage of Oxfam's issues came after the Me Too movement gained traction. Helen experienced PTSD due to the stress of her role and the lack of support. There is a significant stigma attached to whistleblowers in the UK. Many survivors of abuse do not report due to fear of not being believed. Helen advocates for mandatory safeguarding measures in aid organizations. She now works as the CEO of a charity focused on a rare neurological condition. https://cavernoma.org.uk/about/our-team/ Summary In this conversation, Helen Evans shares her harrowing experience as the global head of safeguarding at Oxfam, where she uncovered systemic issues of sexual exploitation and abuse. Despite her efforts to address these issues, she faced significant resistance from senior management, leading her to take her concerns to the Charity Commission. Helen discusses the impact of her experiences on her mental health, including a diagnosis of PTSD, and reflects on the stigma surrounding whistleblowers. She advocates for improved safeguarding measures in the aid sector and emphasizes the need for a dedicated regulator to hold organizations accountable. Now serving as the CEO of a charity focused on a rare neurological condition, Helen continues to champion the importance of ethical practices in aid work and the need for organizations to prioritize safeguarding vulnerable populations. Sound bites "This was a systemic issue." "I had to relocate. I lost my home." "I think there have been improvements." Chapters 00:00 Uncovering the Truth at Oxfam 03:59 The Impact of Whistleblowing 06:53 The Role of Media and Public Awareness 09:48 Courage and the Personal Cost of Speaking Out 12:51 The Intersection of Autism and Advocacy 15:45 Challenges in the Aid Sector 18:51 Improving Safeguarding Practices 21:59 The Need for Accountability in Charities 24:42 Reflections on Leadership and Change 27:39 The Future of Safeguarding in Aid Work 30:36 Personal Healing and Moving Forward 44:38 Outro Oct 23  2.mp4