The Locked up Living Podcast

In this interview, Dr Naomi Murphy and David Jones speak with Richard Buckworth about adoption, identity, and the long shadow of unprocessed trauma. Richard shares how his experience as an adoptee shaped his upcoming book, One Voice, and the therapeutic work he now does with family constellations, journey therapy, shamanic healing, and the Enneagram. The conversation explores belonging, self-worth, secrecy, people-pleasing, inherited trauma, and the importance of facing difficult truths with patience and self-awareness. https://familyconstellationstherapy.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-buckworth-11503966/ Key topics Why Richard wrote One Voice and challenged the belief that adoption had not affected him. The childhood feeling that something was “off,” including depression, disconnection, and not belonging. Emotional shutdown, dissociation, and survival strategies. Adoption-related vulnerabilities, including not looking like anyone in the family and feeling disconnected from one's lineage. The complexity of the adoption triad: adoptees, biological parents, and adoptive parents. Discovering what “adopted” really meant at around age seven. Secrecy, identity confusion, and the experience of having two mothers and two fathers in different senses. Family constellation therapy and its focus on generational patterns and blocked family connections. How Richard combines constellation work with journey therapy, shamanic healing, and the Enneagram. Why truth, patience, and emotional honesty are central to healing. Timestamps 00:00 Introducing Richard Buckworth 02:33 Why Richard wrote One Voice 05:05 Childhood feelings of not belonging 07:28 Emotional shutdown and dissociation 08:41 Coping with bullying and avoidance 10:24 Adoption, identity, and belonging 14:35 Separation at birth and adult mental health 17:13 The adoption triad 18:35 Understanding adoption at age seven 20:46 The confusing story of being “chosen” 23:34 Secrecy and having two mothers 25:24 What might have changed with earlier awareness 29:10 Epigenetics and intergenerational trauma 37:39 What family constellation therapy is 43:51 Somatic healing and listening to the body 47:50 Combining multiple therapeutic modalities 53:57 Advice for people disconnected from their roots 54:18 “The truth will set you free” 57:02 Honesty, family, and the next generation Notable quotes “It takes more effort to not feel than to actually feel.” “The truth will set you free.” “I was so good at lying to myself.” Key frameworks Family constellation therapy: Exploring present issues through family systems and generational patterns. Journey therapy: Releasing emotional blocks and accessing feelings that were shut down. Shamanic healing: Exploring ancestral patterns beyond a traditional seven-generation framework. The Enneagram: Understanding motivation, avoidance, and behavioral patterns    

In this interview, Dr Naomi Murphy and David Jones speak with Richard Buckworth about adoption, identity, and the long shadow of unprocessed trauma. Richard shares how his experience as an adoptee shaped his upcoming book, One Voice, and the therapeutic work he now does with family constellations, journey therapy, shamanic healing, and the Enneagram. The conversation explores belonging, self-worth, secrecy, people-pleasing, inherited trauma, and the importance of facing difficult truths with patience and self-awareness. https://familyconstellationstherapy.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-buckworth-11503966/ Key topics Why Richard wrote One Voice and challenged the belief that adoption had not affected him. The childhood feeling that something was “off,” including depression, disconnection, and not belonging. Emotional shutdown, dissociation, and survival strategies. Adoption-related vulnerabilities, including not looking like anyone in the family and feeling disconnected from one's lineage. The complexity of the adoption triad: adoptees, biological parents, and adoptive parents. Discovering what “adopted” really meant at around age seven. Secrecy, identity confusion, and the experience of having two mothers and two fathers in different senses. Family constellation therapy and its focus on generational patterns and blocked family connections. How Richard combines constellation work with journey therapy, shamanic healing, and the Enneagram. Why truth, patience, and emotional honesty are central to healing. Timestamps 00:00 Introducing Richard Buckworth 02:33 Why Richard wrote One Voice 05:05 Childhood feelings of not belonging 07:28 Emotional shutdown and dissociation 08:41 Coping with bullying and avoidance 10:24 Adoption, identity, and belonging 14:35 Separation at birth and adult mental health 17:13 The adoption triad 18:35 Understanding adoption at age seven 20:46 The confusing story of being “chosen” 23:34 Secrecy and having two mothers 25:24 What might have changed with earlier awareness 29:10 Epigenetics and intergenerational trauma 37:39 What family constellation therapy is 43:51 Somatic healing and listening to the body 47:50 Combining multiple therapeutic modalities 53:57 Advice for people disconnected from their roots 54:18 “The truth will set you free” 57:02 Honesty, family, and the next generation Notable quotes “It takes more effort to not feel than to actually feel.” “The truth will set you free.” “I was so good at lying to myself.” Key frameworks Family constellation therapy: Exploring present issues through family systems and generational patterns. Journey therapy: Releasing emotional blocks and accessing feelings that were shut down. Shamanic healing: Exploring ancestral patterns beyond a traditional seven-generation framework. The Enneagram: Understanding motivation, avoidance, and behavioral patterns.

In this conversation Naomi Murphy and David Jones are joined by Joseph Millson, actor, writer, filmmaker and singer, currently appearing in The Phantom of the Opera in London's West End. He's also the author of Miller Rose Roberts, a novella that moves between psychological realism and something more mysterious while exploring trauma, memory, identity, love, and recovery. In this conversation, Joseph talks about why creativity matters to wellbeing, how writing became a kind of journaling for him, and why he prefers ambiguity over neat explanations. They also discuss resilience, grief, anger, motherhood, and the role storytelling can play in making sense of painful experience. Key topics In this episode, Joseph argues that creativity is not reserved for artists, because everyone uses creative thinking in some form, from mechanics to doctors to chefs. He shares the “right hand and left hand” idea: one side of life handles rent, family, and responsibilities, while the other side protects creative expression and imagination. Joseph explains why actors often feel the urge to move into writing and directing, because acting is usually interpreting someone else's story rather than telling their own. We discuss how writing, especially journaling, can function as emotional processing even when no one else ever reads it. Joseph describes Miller Rose Roberts as a seven chapter novella built around seven year cycles, with the protagonist revisited at ages 7, 14, 21, 28, and beyond. He shares how the book blends realism with magical realism, including the recurring ringing in Miller's ears that becomes an instruction to walk away. They talk about ambiguity in art and why Joseph prefers not to over explain mental health, grief, or the meaning of Miller's experiences. Joseph reflects on writing female characters, saying he is fascinated by women's experiences and by people who carry pain privately rather than sharing it. The conversation also touches on anger management, emotional numbness, and the idea that people need an outlet for grief and pain instead of suppressing it. Joseph closes by explaining how actors can access deep emotion safely through imagination, scaffolding, and play, without relying on unhealthy emotional recall. Timestamps 00:00 - Introducing Joseph Milson and the themes of creativity and wellbeing 00:37 - Why creative work and day jobs often coexist 01:37 - The “right hand and left hand” model of creative life 03:33 - Why acting is a uniquely difficult art form 04:32 - Writing as mental health support between auditions 05:57 - Creativity as something everyone does 07:47 - Why Signs of Life emerges from struggle 08:13 - How Joseph moved from acting into writing and directing 09:14 - Work and Other Four Letter Words and the value of self-reflection 10:33 - Lockdown, screenwriting, and the start of Signs of Life 11:33 - Grief, kindness, and the idea behind the film 12:58 - Why actors eventually want to tell their own stories 15:41 - Journaling as a form of creative processing 18:42 - Writing from a woman's perspective 22:30 - The caravan park, the name Miller Rose Roberts, and the book's origin 23:55 - Seven year cycles and the structure of the novella 24:49 - Tinnitus, the desert, and the magical realist premise 26:51 - Leaving space for multiple interpretations 29:29 - Grief, psychosis, and privacy as a defense mechanism 30:36 - Anger management and the need for emotional outlets 32:15 - Plant medicine, journaling, and looking at what hurts 33:39 - Writer's block and finding the ending 35:08 - Why Joseph chose to write a novella rather than a full novel 37:02 - Stephen King's influence and Joseph's admiration for novella length 38:12 - Why resilience is hard to explain and impossible to reduce 41:12 - Motherhood, loss, and the book's emotional core 44:08 - The deliberate use of “the mother” as a distancing device 46:46 - Researching the 1980s, cigarettes, and period detail 48:24 - Storytelling as a way of healing and narrating our lives 50:42 - How actors protect themselves when working in deep emotional territory Notable quotes “The mistake are mistake. Something a lot of creatives do is put their creative life over here and everything else over there.” “I believe my creative work is my journaling.” “Art is a question mark.”

  In this conversation Naomi Murphy and David Jones are joined by Joseph Millson, actor, writer, filmmaker and singer, currently appearing in The Phantom of the Opera in London's West End. He's also the author of Miller Rose Roberts, a novella that moves between psychological realism and something more mysterious while exploring trauma, memory, identity, love, and recovery. In this conversation, Joseph talks about why creativity matters to wellbeing, how writing became a kind of journaling for him, and why he prefers ambiguity over neat explanations. They also discuss resilience, grief, anger, motherhood, and the role storytelling can play in making sense of painful experience. Key topics In this episode, Joseph argues that creativity is not reserved for artists, because everyone uses creative thinking in some form, from mechanics to doctors to chefs. He shares the “right hand and left hand” idea: one side of life handles rent, family, and responsibilities, while the other side protects creative expression and imagination. Joseph explains why actors often feel the urge to move into writing and directing, because acting is usually interpreting someone else's story rather than telling their own. We discuss how writing, especially journaling, can function as emotional processing even when no one else ever reads it. Joseph describes Miller Rose Roberts as a seven chapter novella built around seven year cycles, with the protagonist revisited at ages 7, 14, 21, 28, and beyond. He shares how the book blends realism with magical realism, including the recurring ringing in Miller's ears that becomes an instruction to walk away. They talk about ambiguity in art and why Joseph prefers not to over explain mental health, grief, or the meaning of Miller's experiences. Joseph reflects on writing female characters, saying he is fascinated by women's experiences and by people who carry pain privately rather than sharing it. The conversation also touches on anger management, emotional numbness, and the idea that people need an outlet for grief and pain instead of suppressing it. Joseph closes by explaining how actors can access deep emotion safely through imagination, scaffolding, and play, without relying on unhealthy emotional recall. Timestamps 00:00 - Introducing Joseph Milson and the themes of creativity and wellbeing 00:37 - Why creative work and day jobs often coexist 01:37 - The “right hand and left hand” model of creative life 03:33 - Why acting is a uniquely difficult art form 04:32 - Writing as mental health support between auditions 05:57 - Creativity as something everyone does 07:47 - Why Signs of Life emerges from struggle 08:13 - How Joseph moved from acting into writing and directing 09:14 - Work and Other Four Letter Words and the value of self-reflection 10:33 - Lockdown, screenwriting, and the start of Signs of Life 11:33 - Grief, kindness, and the idea behind the film 12:58 - Why actors eventually want to tell their own stories 15:41 - Journaling as a form of creative processing 18:42 - Writing from a woman's perspective 22:30 - The caravan park, the name Miller Rose Roberts, and the book's origin 23:55 - Seven year cycles and the structure of the novella 24:49 - Tinnitus, the desert, and the magical realist premise 26:51 - Leaving space for multiple interpretations 29:29 - Grief, psychosis, and privacy as a defense mechanism 30:36 - Anger management and the need for emotional outlets 32:15 - Plant medicine, journaling, and looking at what hurts 33:39 - Writer's block and finding the ending 35:08 - Why Joseph chose to write a novella rather than a full novel 37:02 - Stephen King's influence and Joseph's admiration for novella length 38:12 - Why resilience is hard to explain and impossible to reduce 41:12 - Motherhood, loss, and the book's emotional core 44:08 - The deliberate use of “the mother” as a distancing device 46:46 - Researching the 1980s, cigarettes, and period detail 48:24 - Storytelling as a way of healing and narrating our lives 50:42 - How actors protect themselves when working in deep emotional territory Notable quotes “The mistake are mistake. Something a lot of creatives do is put their creative life over here and everything else over there.” “I believe my creative work is my journaling.” “Art is a question mark.”

This conversation explores Dr Beverley Samways work with people with learning disabilities who have experienced trauma and use little or no spoken communication. The discussion focuses on how self-injury has often been misunderstood through behavioural frameworks, and why a more relational, trauma-informed approach can reveal what people are actually trying to communicate. It also covers the role of grief, culture, power, and co-regulation in care.Beverley Samways, founder of Unique Connections and author of Unspoken Stories, shares findings from her PhD and years of frontline work. Naomi Murphy and David Jones bring in their own clinical reflections, especially around psychodynamic practice, person-centred care, and the importance of really seeing the person in front of you. Unspoken Stories: Learning to Listen to People with Intellectual Disabilities who are Non-Speaking. https://pavpub.com/health-and-social-care/health-autism/unspoken-stories-learning-to-listen-to-people-with-intellectual-disabilities-who-are-non-speaking Key topics In this episode, Beverley explains how Unspoken Stories grew out of her PhD research with three teenagers who had learning disabilities, little or no speech, and histories of self-injury. She challenges the long-standing tendency to interpret self-injury in learning disability services mainly through applied behavioural analysis and “challenging behaviour.” Beverley argues that distress is often rooted in trauma, grief, attachment, and adverse experiences, not just immediate environmental triggers. She describes how, in her research, all three participants had trauma histories and all three eventually communicated more than they had on paper, despite being labelled non-verbal. Naomi reflects on her own shift from a behavioural placement into person-centred and sensory motor psychotherapeutic work, connecting Beverley's account to Valerie Sinason's influence. Beverley shares how communication happened differently with each young person, including drawing and writing with Cassie, and silent co-regulation and bodily attunement with Owen. The conversation returns repeatedly to the idea that people who do not speak still have a unique voice, and that listening long enough can reveal it. Beverley explains that many experiences become traumatic more easily for non-speaking people, especially hospital procedures, restraint, repeated transitions, and hidden grief. The episode also examines why care systems can become harmful, including the role of institutional culture, power, fear of emotion, and the pressure to keep people “happy.” Beverley describes how the sector is shifting slowly toward therapeutic and trauma-informed models, and how Unique Connections is trying to support that change one school and one team at a time. Timestamps (00:00) Introduction to Dr Beverly Samways and her work with trauma, learning disabilities, and non-speaking communication(01:30) How Unspoken Stories emerged from PhD research with three teenagers and their histories of self-injury(05:14) Why self-harm research shows similar patterns across geography and time(05:52) Beverley's background in children's social care, residential settings, and therapeutic training(08:47) The traditional behavioural approach to self-injury and why it can miss emotional meaning(14:08) How trauma exposure is much more common for people with learning disabilities, especially non-speaking people(17:09) Research methods that relied on time, presence, and psychodynamic attunement rather than words alone(19:11) How communication emerged differently with Cassie and Owen through drawing, silence, and co-regulation(21:08) Psychodynamic influences from Valerie Sinason, Anne Alvarez, and Frances Tustin(23:21) Naomi's reflection on person-centred work and the surprise of what the research revealed(24:20) The most striking surprise: all three participants spoke in some form when given enough space and listening(27:09) Trauma in everyday care settings, including hospitals, restraint, transitions, and repeated moves(30:07) Why grief is often mistaken for trauma, and why emotional expression is frequently discouraged in care(32:34) Institutional history, deprivation of liberty, and the long shadow of segregation(34:59) How recovery depends on being seen, heard, and understood rather than treated as a behaviour problem(38:28) Bad actors, harmful systems, and why “bad apple” explanations are not enough(42:44) The emotional impact of the research on Beverley, including sustained sadness and changed assumptions(45:35) Unique Connections' aims and the gradual move from behavioural models toward trauma-informed practice(48:20) How Beverley stays well through relationships, laughter, prayer, presence, and ordinary self-care Notable quotes “If we listen long enough, people will speak. Not necessarily with words, but everybody has something to say.” “We're cutting out an enormous chunk of ordinary human functioning from the way that we are understanding somebody simply because they have a learning disability.”

This conversation explores Dr Beverley Samways work with people with learning disabilities who have experienced trauma and use little or no spoken communication. The discussion focuses on how self-injury has often been misunderstood through behavioural frameworks, and why a more relational, trauma-informed approach can reveal what people are actually trying to communicate. It also covers the role of grief, culture, power, and co-regulation in care.Beverley Samways, founder of Unique Connections and author of Unspoken Stories, shares findings from her PhD and years of frontline work. Naomi Murphy and David Jones bring in their own clinical reflections, especially around psychodynamic practice, person-centred care, and the importance of really seeing the person in front of you. Unspoken Stories: Learning to Listen to People with Intellectual Disabilities who are Non-Speaking. https://pavpub.com/health-and-social-care/health-autism/unspoken-stories-learning-to-listen-to-people-with-intellectual-disabilities-who-are-non-speaking Key topics In this episode, Beverley explains how Unspoken Stories grew out of her PhD research with three teenagers who had learning disabilities, little or no speech, and histories of self-injury. She challenges the long-standing tendency to interpret self-injury in learning disability services mainly through applied behavioural analysis and “challenging behaviour.” Beverley argues that distress is often rooted in trauma, grief, attachment, and adverse experiences, not just immediate environmental triggers. She describes how, in her research, all three participants had trauma histories and all three eventually communicated more than they had on paper, despite being labelled non-verbal. Naomi reflects on her own shift from a behavioural placement into person-centred and sensory motor psychotherapeutic work, connecting Beverley's account to Valerie Sinason's influence. Beverley shares how communication happened differently with each young person, including drawing and writing with Cassie, and silent co-regulation and bodily attunement with Owen. The conversation returns repeatedly to the idea that people who do not speak still have a unique voice, and that listening long enough can reveal it. Beverley explains that many experiences become traumatic more easily for non-speaking people, especially hospital procedures, restraint, repeated transitions, and hidden grief. The episode also examines why care systems can become harmful, including the role of institutional culture, power, fear of emotion, and the pressure to keep people “happy.” Beverley describes how the sector is shifting slowly toward therapeutic and trauma-informed models, and how Unique Connections is trying to support that change one school and one team at a time. Timestamps (00:00) Introduction to Dr Beverly Samways and her work with trauma, learning disabilities, and non-speaking communication(01:30) How Unspoken Stories emerged from PhD research with three teenagers and their histories of self-injury(05:14) Why self-harm research shows similar patterns across geography and time(05:52) Beverley's background in children's social care, residential settings, and therapeutic training(08:47) The traditional behavioural approach to self-injury and why it can miss emotional meaning(14:08) How trauma exposure is much more common for people with learning disabilities, especially non-speaking people(17:09) Research methods that relied on time, presence, and psychodynamic attunement rather than words alone(19:11) How communication emerged differently with Cassie and Owen through drawing, silence, and co-regulation(21:08) Psychodynamic influences from Valerie Sinason, Anne Alvarez, and Frances Tustin(23:21) Naomi's reflection on person-centred work and the surprise of what the research revealed(24:20) The most striking surprise: all three participants spoke in some form when given enough space and listening(27:09) Trauma in everyday care settings, including hospitals, restraint, transitions, and repeated moves(30:07) Why grief is often mistaken for trauma, and why emotional expression is frequently discouraged in care(32:34) Institutional history, deprivation of liberty, and the long shadow of segregation(34:59) How recovery depends on being seen, heard, and understood rather than treated as a behaviour problem(38:28) Bad actors, harmful systems, and why “bad apple” explanations are not enough(42:44) The emotional impact of the research on Beverley, including sustained sadness and changed assumptions(45:35) Unique Connections' aims and the gradual move from behavioural models toward trauma-informed practice(48:20) How Beverley stays well through relationships, laughter, prayer, presence, and ordinary self-care Notable quotes “If we listen long enough, people will speak. Not necessarily with words, but everybody has something to say.” “We're cutting out an enormous chunk of ordinary human functioning from the way that we are understanding somebody simply because they have a learning disability.”

    In this important conversation David Jones and Dr Naomi Murphy talk about why so many boys underachieve at school with Mike Bell. And why has so little research been done on this subject? Mike is a former science teacher, evidence-based teaching trainer, author of Fundamentals of Teaching, founder of the All-Party Parliamentary Group on Men and Boys issues, and lead researcher for the APPG's 2023 inquiry into boys' educational underachievement, explains the findings behind his latest book ‘Yes He Can'. He argues that boys' underachievement is real, widespread, and not inevitable. (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Closing-Attainment-Boys-Secondary-School/dp/1041242158) We discuss the data behind the attainment gap, why the problem is most visible in secondary school, and what six British schools did to close the gap without extra resources or special training. Mike also challenges common assumptions about male teachers, toxic masculinity, and the causes of boys' poor outcomes. Key topics Why Yes He Can is built largely from teacher transcripts and school practice, not theory The size of the attainment gap from school readiness through GCSEs, A levels, and university Why the gap narrows in primary school but widens again in secondary school How primary teachers' close knowledge of pupils creates more individualised support The consequences of boys' underachievement, including disengagement, NEET outcomes, and wider social costs Why some boys become hostile to school when they feel lost, punished, and misunderstood How school culture can become a place where boys actually want to come Why the research base is weaker than people assume, despite widespread concern Why Mike does not see male teacher shortages as the main explanation Why the schools he studied were effective because they shared intentions, not identical methods Timestamps (Approx) 00:00 - Technical setup and Mike Bell's introduction 01:47 - What Yes He Can is about 03:27 - How the APPG inquiry led to the book 06:28 - The attainment gap from primary school to university 09:59 - Why secondary school widens the gap 11:30 - Social consequences of boys switching off 13:42 - Making school a place boys want to come to 15:16 - How school structure affects less able pupils 17:10 - Why boys were once seen as advantaged and girls as disadvantaged 18:57 - How the six schools were found and why primary practice mattered 20:26 - Why the research base on boys' underachievement is so weak 23:33 - What the six successful schools had in common 24:58 - Why male teachers are not the key solution 26:58 - Why he rejects toxic masculinity as the root cause

In this important conversation David Jones and Dr Naomi Murphy talk about why so many boys underachieve at school with Mike Bell. And why has so little research been done on this subject? Mike is a former science teacher, evidence-based teaching trainer, author of Fundamentals of Teaching, founder of the All-Party Parliamentary Group on Men and Boys issues, and lead researcher for the APPG's 2023 inquiry into boys' educational underachievement, explains the findings behind his latest book ‘Yes He Can'. He argues that boys' underachievement is real, widespread, and not inevitable. (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Closing-Attainment-Boys-Secondary-School/dp/1041242158) We discuss the data behind the attainment gap, why the problem is most visible in secondary school, and what six British schools did to close the gap without extra resources or special training. Mike also challenges common assumptions about male teachers, toxic masculinity, and the causes of boys' poor outcomes. Key topics Why Yes He Can is built largely from teacher transcripts and school practice, not theory The size of the attainment gap from school readiness through GCSEs, A levels, and university Why the gap narrows in primary school but widens again in secondary school How primary teachers' close knowledge of pupils creates more individualised support The consequences of boys' underachievement, including disengagement, NEET outcomes, and wider social costs Why some boys become hostile to school when they feel lost, punished, and misunderstood How school culture can become a place where boys actually want to come Why the research base is weaker than people assume, despite widespread concern Why Mike does not see male teacher shortages as the main explanation Why the schools he studied were effective because they shared intentions, not identical methods Timestamps (Approx) 00:00 - Technical setup and Mike Bell's introduction 01:47 - What Yes He Can is about 03:27 - How the APPG inquiry led to the book 06:28 - The attainment gap from primary school to university 09:59 - Why secondary school widens the gap 11:30 - Social consequences of boys switching off 13:42 - Making school a place boys want to come to 15:16 - How school structure affects less able pupils 17:10 - Why boys were once seen as advantaged and girls as disadvantaged 18:57 - How the six schools were found and why primary practice mattered 20:26 - Why the research base on boys' underachievement is so weak 23:33 - What the six successful schools had in common 24:58 - Why male teachers are not the key solution 26:58 - Why he rejects toxic masculinity as the root cause

David Jones and Naomi Murphy meet Kelly Edmondson, healthcare executive, former trauma ICU nurse, board certified grief counsellor, bereaved mother, and founder of Timely Presence. This is a very powerful and moving account as Kelly describes some of the tragic moments that have led to her founding of Timely Presence. Kelly shares how years in high-pressure care shaped her understanding of trauma, resilience, and human connection. She also explains how the death of her son Darius led her to build a milestone-based grief support model that helps people show up meaningfully long after the funeral. We discuss how grief changes over time, why people often struggle to support the bereaved, and the simple principles Kelly uses to help others stay present without saying the wrong thing. This is a deeply personal conversation about loss, purpose, and turning pain into practical support. Key topics Kelly Edmondson's path from new graduate nurse in trauma ICU and burn care to grief counsellor and founder of Timely Presence What caring for patients at the edge of life taught her about fragility, resilience, and the value of relationships Why good clinicians should care deeply, while still maintaining enough emotional protection to keep functioning The moment a young quadriplegic patient and his children reshaped her sense of purpose in care How Kelly's own family life and her son Darius's death changed the way she saw grief, holidays, and time Why the holiday season can be especially painful for bereaved families, and how her family uses “reframing the ritual” The importance of saying a deceased person's name, telling their stories, and keeping their legacy present How Timely Presence was born from a Mother's Day weekend that turned a looming trigger into a meaningful, supported experience Why grief support is often front loaded around funerals, but the hardest moments usually come later The three R's Kelly recommends for supporting someone who is grieving: regulate, respond, remain Timestamps 00:00 - Kelly Edmondson's background in trauma care and grief support 01:39 - Entering trauma ICU and learning from life interrupted 04:44 - A young quadriplegic patient and the emotional weight of care 07:28 - Self-care habits that helped her stay grounded 09:48 - Parenthood, Christmas, and seeing grief through a caregiver's eyes 13:51 - Reframing holiday rituals after the death of her son Darius 16:39 - Why talking about loss matters instead of avoiding it 21:31 - The Mother's Day weekend that inspired Timely Presence 24:58 - How Timely Presence works across the emotional calendar of grief 28:14 - Why people welcome structured grief support for difficult losses 30:56 - Advice for people going through loss and those trying to help 34:49 - The three R's: regulate, respond, remain 37:46 - Closing reflections on Kelly's story and legacy

David Jones and Naomi Murphy meet Kelly Edmondson, healthcare executive, former trauma ICU nurse, board certified grief counsellor, bereaved mother, and founder of Timely Presence. This is a very powerful and moving account as Kelly describes some of the tragic moments that have led to her founding of Timely Presence. Kelly shares how years in high-pressure care shaped her understanding of trauma, resilience, and human connection. She also explains how the death of her son Darius led her to build a milestone-based grief support model that helps people show up meaningfully long after the funeral. We discuss how grief changes over time, why people often struggle to support the bereaved, and the simple principles Kelly uses to help others stay present without saying the wrong thing. This is a deeply personal conversation about loss, purpose, and turning pain into practical support. Key topics Kelly Edmondson's path from new graduate nurse in trauma ICU and burn care to grief counsellor and founder of Timely Presence What caring for patients at the edge of life taught her about fragility, resilience, and the value of relationships Why good clinicians should care deeply, while still maintaining enough emotional protection to keep functioning The moment a young quadriplegic patient and his children reshaped her sense of purpose in care How Kelly's own family life and her son Darius's death changed the way she saw grief, holidays, and time Why the holiday season can be especially painful for bereaved families, and how her family uses “reframing the ritual” The importance of saying a deceased person's name, telling their stories, and keeping their legacy present How Timely Presence was born from a Mother's Day weekend that turned a looming trigger into a meaningful, supported experience Why grief support is often front loaded around funerals, but the hardest moments usually come later The three R's Kelly recommends for supporting someone who is grieving: regulate, respond, remain Timestamps 00:00 - Kelly Edmondson's background in trauma care and grief support 01:39 - Entering trauma ICU and learning from life interrupted 04:44 - A young quadriplegic patient and the emotional weight of care 07:28 - Self-care habits that helped her stay grounded 09:48 - Parenthood, Christmas, and seeing grief through a caregiver's eyes 13:51 - Reframing holiday rituals after the death of her son Darius 16:39 - Why talking about loss matters instead of avoiding it 21:31 - The Mother's Day weekend that inspired Timely Presence 24:58 - How Timely Presence works across the emotional calendar of grief 28:14 - Why people welcome structured grief support for difficult losses 30:56 - Advice for people going through loss and those trying to help 34:49 - The three R's: regulate, respond, remain 37:46 - Closing reflections on Kelly's story and legacy

Dr Naomi Murphy, David Jones and Dr Pawel Szczesny have a conversation about AI. This conversation explores how AI is shaping human thinking, decision-making, creativity, and workplace habits. Dr Szczesny, co-founder and CEO of Impersonato, explains why his company builds synthetic personas as “crash test dummies” for AI systems and why he believes AI should be treated more like a tool than a conversational companion. We also discuss the risks of over-reliance, especially in mental health, the workplace, and personal identity, plus what healthy AI deployment could look like in organizations. Impersonato — AI psychology company. We build psychologically realistic crash-test dummies. Key topics Pawel Szczesny's background and development. He describes a career path spanning experimental biology, computational biology, medical research, pharmaceutical research, pro-cognitive supplements, and psychology of AI systems. Biology taught him humility: theories about complex systems are usually incomplete, and no system works in isolation. Why Impersonato exists How AI mirrors users Why mirroring can become dangerous Creativity: individual gains, collective loss Good AI versus bad AI Jobs, unemployment, and the “mass layoff” narrative Why fluent AI sounds authoritative Pawel says people still confuse polished language with expertise. He warns that AI can produce beautifully written output that is entirely wrong, especially in areas that cannot be externally verified. The “Claude Boys” phenomenon Blurred authorship and reduced enjoyment Who shapes AI systems Ethics belongs to humans, not the model How organizations should use AI How he uses AI personally, he does not use AI outside work.   Timestamps (00:00) Introduction to Dr Pawel Szczesny and why synthetic personas matter for AI safety   (01:05) From biology to psychology through a series of career pivots   (03:58) What Inpersonato does and why AI needs crash test dummies   (06:21) Testing therapy-support chatbots and companion systems   (07:33) How GPT-3 changed Pawel's view of chatbot behavior   (09:25) Why AI mirrors education level, preferences, and psychology   (10:24) When AI reinforcement starts to resemble delusion   (12:29) How AI responds to loneliness and paranoia in users   (14:32) Career changes and subtle language adoption after heavy AI use   (16:44) Individual creativity rises, but collective creativity shrinks   (19:15) Why the healthiest AI should not rely on a conversational interface   (23:28) Lessons from typists, office assistants, and changing work   (24:27) Why mass unemployment is more marketing story than reality   (28:55) Why fluent writing is mistaken for expertise   (31:51) The “Claude Boys” and reverse cyborg behavior   (33:59) How constant AI advice can amplify anxiety   (35:00) Blurred authorship and the loss of creative joy   (37:49) Identity risk when writing or creating stops feeling rewarding   (38:48) Why Claude reflects a narrow entrepreneurial worldview   (43:52) Why ethics belongs to humans, not the AI model   (49:32) How organizations can build healthier AI habits   (53:58) A better internal rollout model: let employees experiment first   (56:04) How Pavel uses AI personally and why he takes breaks  

Dr Naomi Murphy, David Jones and Dr Pawel Szczesny have a conversation about AI. This conversation explores how AI is shaping human thinking, decision-making, creativity, and workplace habits. Dr Szczesny, co-founder and CEO of Impersonato, explains why his company builds synthetic personas as “crash test dummies” for AI systems and why he believes AI should be treated more like a tool than a conversational companion. We also discuss the risks of over-reliance, especially in mental health, the workplace, and personal identity, plus what healthy AI deployment could look like in organizations. Impersonato — AI psychology company. We build psychologically realistic crash-test dummies. Key topics Pawel Szczesny's background and development. He describes a career path spanning experimental biology, computational biology, medical research, pharmaceutical research, pro-cognitive supplements, and psychology of AI systems. Biology taught him humility: theories about complex systems are usually incomplete, and no system works in isolation. Why Impersonato exists How AI mirrors users Why mirroring can become dangerous Creativity: individual gains, collective loss Good AI versus bad AI Jobs, unemployment, and the “mass layoff” narrative Why fluent AI sounds authoritative Pawel says people still confuse polished language with expertise. He warns that AI can produce beautifully written output that is entirely wrong, especially in areas that cannot be externally verified. The “Claude Boys” phenomenon Blurred authorship and reduced enjoyment Who shapes AI systems Ethics belongs to humans, not the model How organizations should use AI How he uses AI personally, he does not use AI outside work.   Timestamps (00:00) Introduction to Dr Pawel Szczesny and why synthetic personas matter for AI safety   (01:05) From biology to psychology through a series of career pivots   (03:58) What Inpersonato does and why AI needs crash test dummies   (06:21) Testing therapy-support chatbots and companion systems   (07:33) How GPT-3 changed Pawel's view of chatbot behavior   (09:25) Why AI mirrors education level, preferences, and psychology   (10:24) When AI reinforcement starts to resemble delusion   (12:29) How AI responds to loneliness and paranoia in users   (14:32) Career changes and subtle language adoption after heavy AI use   (16:44) Individual creativity rises, but collective creativity shrinks   (19:15) Why the healthiest AI should not rely on a conversational interface   (23:28) Lessons from typists, office assistants, and changing work   (24:27) Why mass unemployment is more marketing story than reality   (28:55) Why fluent writing is mistaken for expertise   (31:51) The “Claude Boys” and reverse cyborg behavior   (33:59) How constant AI advice can amplify anxiety   (35:00) Blurred authorship and the loss of creative joy   (37:49) Identity risk when writing or creating stops feeling rewarding   (38:48) Why Claude reflects a narrow entrepreneurial worldview   (43:52) Why ethics belongs to humans, not the AI model   (49:32) How organizations can build healthier AI habits   (53:58) A better internal rollout model: let employees experiment first   (56:04) How Pavel uses AI personally and why he takes breaks  

In this conversation with Naomi Murphy and David Jones Neil shares the raw reality of adopting two siblings in 2023 in this heartfelt episode. From navigating the invasive process to managing the emotional rollercoaster, Neil provides honest insights into a journey many find daunting but rarely talk about openly. If you're considering adoption or simply curious about the unseen side of creating a unique family, this episode offers invaluable perspectives. Key Topics Covered: Neil's motivation for writing his book after adopting two siblings The emotional challenges of the adoption process and post-placement realities How the system's focus on children can overlook the feelings of adoptive parents The impact of trauma responses and differentiating normal toddler behavior from trauma signals Strategies for managing the stress and emotional numbness during early parenting The significance of the two-week rule for coping with work stress and family challenges The disparities in emotional experiences between adoptive parents and their attachment journeys Insights into the training social workers receive and its focus on worst-case scenarios Neil's thoughts on the fairness of resource allocation in fertility treatments The importance of humour and resilience in processing difficult life experiences Neil's involvement in organizing a wellbeing festival and his interest in mental health Timestamps: 00:00 - Neil's story: from infertility to adoption and writing his book   02:17 - Challenges of the adoption process and systemic focus on protecting children   05:03 - Why Neil decided to document his journey for others   09:32 - The emotional complexity of IVF and the invasive procedures involved   12:32 - Feelings of fairness and resource disparity in fertility treatments   15:51 - Managing stress: the two-week rule for coping with family and work challenges   18:22 - Improving adoption training and system efficiency   24:52 - Differentiating trauma responses from normal behaviour in children   27:36 - The emotional numbness during initial parenting and its protective role   29:52 - How different attachment experiences influence adoptive parents' journeys   38:28 - Addressing unspoken gratitude and the myths of family obligations   41:28 - The role of humour in Neil's approach to life's difficulties   43:19 - Decision-making style and embracing uncertainty in challenging situations   46:26 - Neil's journey into being a published author and his involvement in the wellbeing festival   48:19 - Final thoughts and key takeaways Notable Quotes: "The process is very child focused, but understanding your own feelings is a whole other conversation." "You have to think of adoption as a long game—it's about forming attachments slowly, not instant bonds."

In this conversation with Naomi Murphy and David Jones Neil shares the raw reality of adopting two siblings in 2023 in this heartfelt episode. From navigating the invasive process to managing the emotional rollercoaster, Neil provides honest insights into a journey many find daunting but rarely talk about openly. If you're considering adoption or simply curious about the unseen side of creating a unique family, this episode offers invaluable perspectives. Key Topics Covered: Neil's motivation for writing his book after adopting two siblings The emotional challenges of the adoption process and post-placement realities How the system's focus on children can overlook the feelings of adoptive parents The impact of trauma responses and differentiating normal toddler behavior from trauma signals Strategies for managing the stress and emotional numbness during early parenting The significance of the two-week rule for coping with work stress and family challenges The disparities in emotional experiences between adoptive parents and their attachment journeys Insights into the training social workers receive and its focus on worst-case scenarios Neil's thoughts on the fairness of resource allocation in fertility treatments The importance of humour and resilience in processing difficult life experiences Neil's involvement in organizing a wellbeing festival and his interest in mental health Timestamps: 00:00 - Neil's story: from infertility to adoption and writing his book   02:17 - Challenges of the adoption process and systemic focus on protecting children   05:03 - Why Neil decided to document his journey for others   09:32 - The emotional complexity of IVF and the invasive procedures involved   12:32 - Feelings of fairness and resource disparity in fertility treatments   15:51 - Managing stress: the two-week rule for coping with family and work challenges   18:22 - Improving adoption training and system efficiency   24:52 - Differentiating trauma responses from normal behaviour in children   27:36 - The emotional numbness during initial parenting and its protective role   29:52 - How different attachment experiences influence adoptive parents' journeys   38:28 - Addressing unspoken gratitude and the myths of family obligations   41:28 - The role of humour in Neil's approach to life's difficulties   43:19 - Decision-making style and embracing uncertainty in challenging situations   46:26 - Neil's journey into being a published author and his involvement in the wellbeing festival   48:19 - Final thoughts and key takeaways Notable Quotes: "The process is very child focused, but understanding your own feelings is a whole other conversation." "You have to think of adoption as a long game—it's about forming attachments slowly, not instant bonds."

In this conversation Naomi Murphy and David Jones explore how systems thinking, internal family systems, and leadership mindset shifts can transform organizations from within. Francisco Baptista shares insights on addressing systemic dysfunction, fostering resilience, and the power of small interventions to create culture change. In this episode: The significance of systemic and relational approaches in leadership coaching How physics and systems thinking reveal organizational dysfunctions missed by psychological lenses The role of systemic resilience versus individual resilience and how organizations often shift burden onto individuals Recognizing early warning signs of a culture approaching a breaking point The importance of naming, making explicit, and working through organizational trauma and ghosts of past events Practical strategies for leaders to influence culture through small yet impactful interventions The integration of internal family systems (IFS) and parts work in organizational contexts How decision-making and responsibility influence resilience and momentum Protecting personal well-being while delivering tough messages in consultancy Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction to systemic coaching and Francisco Baptista's background 01:10 - The shift from technical mastery to relational systemic work 02:22 - How physics and systems thinking provide unique insights into dysfunction 03:49 - Bringing physics into coaching to address organizational culture 04:22 - Systemic resilience versus individual resilience and organizational burdening 06:49 - How organizations unconsciously set their breaking points through tolerated behaviors 07:39 - Recognizing early warning signs of a culture crisis 09:25 - The slow process of cultural degradation and importance of naming trauma 10:50 - The presence of organizational ghosts and collective trauma 12:36 - Dealing with organizational wounds that are hard to talk about 13:30 - Distinguishing genuine change from surface-level coping 14:12 - The influence of coaching on transformation, not just problem-solving 16:18 - The embodied change versus purely intellectual approaches 17:36 - How transformative contact challenges AI and enhances human relational qualities 18:12 - Strategies to help executives navigate systemic thresholds and internal dilemmas 19:58 - Exploring polarity, polarization, and how to shift perspectives 21:36 - Recognizing grey ground and parts work in coaching and organizations 22:13 - Why internal family systems (IFS) works well both individually and collectively 23:37 - Integrating parts and understanding internal managers in organizational contexts 25:50 - Addressing the myth of bad parts and collective scapegoating 27:19 - Leaders' blind spots: projecting harshness onto the market instead of themselves 29:15 - The importance of slack time for organizational learning and innovation 30:08 - Differentiating external pressure from internal stress and building boundaries 32:36 - Handling organizations that resist change through personal responsibility and decision-making 34:22 - Advice for individuals in brutal systems: ownership and decision sovereignty 36:00 - Small interventions with the potential for cultural shifts, exemplified by leadership and visibility 37:55 - The impact of values like grit on organizational burnout and pace 39:07 - Protecting coaches' well-being while delivering tough truths 40:14 - Cultivating purpose, fulfillment, and alignment in coaching practice 41:16 - The role of inner walls, transgenerational beliefs, and breaking down barriers 42:31 - Overcoming organizational trauma echoes from penal systems to corporate environments 42:53 - Final thoughts: systemic work as a pathway to resilience and transformationResources & Links: Conference of the Birds ;  https://www.franciscobaptista.com/conference https://ifs-institute.com/

In this conversation Naomi Murphy and David Jones explore how systems thinking, internal family systems, and leadership mindset shifts can transform organizations from within. Francisco Baptista shares insights on addressing systemic dysfunction, fostering resilience, and the power of small interventions to create culture change. In this episode: The significance of systemic and relational approaches in leadership coaching How physics and systems thinking reveal organizational dysfunctions missed by psychological lenses The role of systemic resilience versus individual resilience and how organizations often shift burden onto individuals Recognizing early warning signs of a culture approaching a breaking point The importance of naming, making explicit, and working through organizational trauma and ghosts of past events Practical strategies for leaders to influence culture through small yet impactful interventions The integration of internal family systems (IFS) and parts work in organizational contexts How decision-making and responsibility influence resilience and momentum Protecting personal well-being while delivering tough messages in consultancy Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction to systemic coaching and Francisco Baptista's background 01:10 - The shift from technical mastery to relational systemic work 02:22 - How physics and systems thinking provide unique insights into dysfunction 03:49 - Bringing physics into coaching to address organizational culture 04:22 - Systemic resilience versus individual resilience and organizational burdening 06:49 - How organizations unconsciously set their breaking points through tolerated behaviors 07:39 - Recognizing early warning signs of a culture crisis 09:25 - The slow process of cultural degradation and importance of naming trauma 10:50 - The presence of organizational ghosts and collective trauma 12:36 - Dealing with organizational wounds that are hard to talk about 13:30 - Distinguishing genuine change from surface-level coping 14:12 - The influence of coaching on transformation, not just problem-solving 16:18 - The embodied change versus purely intellectual approaches 17:36 - How transformative contact challenges AI and enhances human relational qualities 18:12 - Strategies to help executives navigate systemic thresholds and internal dilemmas 19:58 - Exploring polarity, polarization, and how to shift perspectives 21:36 - Recognizing grey ground and parts work in coaching and organizations 22:13 - Why internal family systems (IFS) works well both individually and collectively 23:37 - Integrating parts and understanding internal managers in organizational contexts 25:50 - Addressing the myth of bad parts and collective scapegoating 27:19 - Leaders' blind spots: projecting harshness onto the market instead of themselves 29:15 - The importance of slack time for organizational learning and innovation 30:08 - Differentiating external pressure from internal stress and building boundaries 32:36 - Handling organizations that resist change through personal responsibility and decision-making 34:22 - Advice for individuals in brutal systems: ownership and decision sovereignty 36:00 - Small interventions with the potential for cultural shifts, exemplified by leadership and visibility 37:55 - The impact of values like grit on organizational burnout and pace 39:07 - Protecting coaches' well-being while delivering tough truths 40:14 - Cultivating purpose, fulfillment, and alignment in coaching practice 41:16 - The role of inner walls, transgenerational beliefs, and breaking down barriers 42:31 - Overcoming organizational trauma echoes from penal systems to corporate environments 42:53 - Final thoughts: systemic work as a pathway to resilience and transformationResources & Links: Conference of the Birds ;  https://www.franciscobaptista.com/conference https://ifs-institute.com/

Rhia Canady (Video); Building Bridges: How Fly Girl Foundation Supports Women Post-Incarceration In this episode Naomi Murphy and David Jones meet Rhia Canady who shares her powerful journey from incarceration to founding Fly Girl Foundation, highlighting resilience, community support, and the importance of targeted interventions for women with lived experience of the criminal justice system. https://www.flygirlfoundation.co.uk/ keywords; prison reform, women empowerment, lived experience, social impact, Fly Girl Foundation, rehabilitation, community support key topics Rhia Canady's personal journey through incarceration and trauma The founding and mission of Fly Girl Foundation The importance of support systems for women leaving prison Challenges faced during legal proceedings and reintegration The role of community and mentorship in recovery and empowerment Experiences of prison life and the impact of routine and relationships The significance of early intervention and prevention for at-risk youth Rhia's work with Eastwood Park and prison reentry programs The emotional toll of trauma and coping strategies The importance of self-care and professional support for social workers and advocates takeaways Support networks are crucial for women reentering society after prison Early intervention can prevent women from entering the criminal justice system Routine and community connections aid in recovery and reintegration Self-care and professional support are vital for those working with trauma Legal battles can be navigated successfully with determination and evidence Sound Bites "Prison's awful, but it teaches resilience." "Routine and community support aid recovery." "Support networks are crucial for women reentering society." Chapters 00:00Introduction to Rhia Canady and her background 02:09Rhia's journey through trauma and incarceration 04:03Reflections on prison life and emotional challenges 05:56Reentry into society and the start of Fly Girl Foundation 07:52The impact of community support and mentorship 09:47Experiences of legal battles and overcoming obstacles 11:54The importance of early prevention and intervention 14:00Supporting women and young girls through education and empowerment 16:02Returning to Eastwood Park and reflections on progress 18:14The emotional toll of trauma and coping mechanisms 19:50The role of physical activity and routine in healing 22:10Supporting women at the moment of release from prison 23:48The significance of community and peer support 26:09Legal challenges and fighting for justice 27:59The importance of self-belief and resilience 29:46The future of Fly Girl Foundation and ongoing projects 32:03Advice for others working in social justice and support 33:52Closing thoughts and message of hope

In this episode Naomi Murphy and David Jones meet Rhia Canady who shares her powerful journey from incarceration to founding Fly Girl Foundation, highlighting resilience, community support, and the importance of targeted interventions for women with lived experience of the criminal justice system. https://www.flygirlfoundation.co.uk/ keywords; prison reform, women empowerment, lived experience, social impact, Fly Girl Foundation, rehabilitation, community support key topics Rhia Canady's personal journey through incarceration and trauma The founding and mission of Fly Girl Foundation The importance of support systems for women leaving prison Challenges faced during legal proceedings and reintegration The role of community and mentorship in recovery and empowerment Experiences of prison life and the impact of routine and relationships The significance of early intervention and prevention for at-risk youth Rhia's work with Eastwood Park and prison reentry programs The emotional toll of trauma and coping strategies The importance of self-care and professional support for social workers and advocates takeaways Support networks are crucial for women reentering society after prison Early intervention can prevent women from entering the criminal justice system Routine and community connections aid in recovery and reintegration Self-care and professional support are vital for those working with trauma Legal battles can be navigated successfully with determination and evidence Sound Bites "Prison's awful, but it teaches resilience." "Routine and community support aid recovery." "Support networks are crucial for women reentering society." Chapters 00:00Introduction to Rhia Canady and her background 02:09Rhia's journey through trauma and incarceration 04:03Reflections on prison life and emotional challenges 05:56Reentry into society and the start of Fly Girl Foundation 07:52The impact of community support and mentorship 09:47Experiences of legal battles and overcoming obstacles 11:54The importance of early prevention and intervention 14:00Supporting women and young girls through education and empowerment 16:02Returning to Eastwood Park and reflections on progress 18:14The emotional toll of trauma and coping mechanisms 19:50The role of physical activity and routine in healing 22:10Supporting women at the moment of release from prison 23:48The significance of community and peer support 26:09Legal challenges and fighting for justice 27:59The importance of self-belief and resilience 29:46The future of Fly Girl Foundation and ongoing projects 32:03Advice for others working in social justice and support 33:52Closing thoughts and message of hope

In this fascinating episode, Naomi and David talk with Leon Towers who shares his extraordinary journey from a challenging childhood in foster care to becoming a multifaceted professional, including roles as  a performer, dog behaviourist, and advocate. His story highlights resilience, forgiveness, and finding purpose in helping others, all while navigating complex personal struggles. Main Topics Covered: Leon's early life in foster care and the childhood adversities that shaped him The impact of childhood trauma on trust, vulnerability, and social relationships How therapy, self-awareness, and forgiveness foster healing and growth The significance of purpose: from dreaming of TV stardom to helping people and animals Transitioning careers: from boy band vocals to dog hydrotherapist and behaviouralist The lessons dogs teach about human emotion, trauma, and forgiveness The importance of freedom, boundaries, and letting go of toxic relationships Insights into resilience, resourcefulness, and making meaningful change The role of spirituality, kindness, and love in mental and emotional wellbeing Practical advice for those feeling trapped by their past to find hope and change Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction and Leon's background in overcoming adversity 01:06 - Childhood in care: stigma and early influences 02:04 - How media influenced perceptions of childhood adversity 03:03 - Impact on friendships and social environment 04:31 - Childhood labels and their emotional weight 05:22 - Lessons from difficult childhood: trust and vulnerability 05:52 - How childhood experiences shape adult trust and suspicion 07:19 - Vulnerability and naive trust: the risks of openness 08:47 - Managing social perceptions and approaches to trust 09:46 - Dealing with rejection and misunderstanding in social settings 10:25 - Healing through rehab and EMDR therapy 11:23 - Rediscovering kindness and emotional expression 12:50 - Life transitions: from music and entertainment to dog therapy 13:09 - Personal spiritual visions and purpose at age 8 14:38 - Childhood resourcefulness: using imagination as a survival tool 16:37 - The accidental journey into dog hydrotherapy 18:07 - Learning and qualifications in dog behaviour 19:59 - Working with challenging dogs and trust issues 21:22 - Making sense of seemingly unrelated career paths 22:36 - The impact of negative foster experiences and finding a voice 23:34 - Childhood silence and the significance of expression 24:33 - Imaginary escapes and how fantasy helped survive trauma 26:01 - Forgiveness and emotional detachment as pathways to freedom 27:28 - Resourcefulness: focusing on hope and survival 28:51 - Letting go of hate and embracing emotional resilience 29:19 - Instinctive kindness and natural forgiveness 30:19 - The importance of freedom in healing and life choices 32:18 - Parallels between human and dog behaviour in trauma response 34:13 - Lessons from dogs about emotional health and human behaviour 35:12 - Reinventing careers: courage and inevitable fear 36:02 - Moving beyond toxicity and the importance of self-belief 37:56 - The cyclic nature of life journeys and purpose 39:22 - Defining a purposeful life: helping others and spiritual growth 40:20 - Following love's guiding principle in decision-making 41:04 - Advice for those feeling trapped by their history 42:01 - How change begins within: inner transformation as key 43:24 - Personal stories of survival and resourcefulness 44:50 - Words to younger self: focus on identity, self-belief, and authenticity 46:09 - Reflections on growth, change, and staying true to oneself 47:07 - Closing notes and gratitude https://www.linkedin.com/in/leon-towers-6899791ba/ https://thepowerofdog.com/ https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fix-Your-Three-Easy-Steps/dp/1788405005

In this fascinating episode, Naomi and David talk with Leon Towers who shares his extraordinary journey from a challenging childhood in foster care to becoming a multifaceted professional, including roles as  a performer, dog behaviourist, and advocate. His story highlights resilience, forgiveness, and finding purpose in helping others, all while navigating complex personal struggles. Main Topics Covered: Leon's early life in foster care and the childhood adversities that shaped him The impact of childhood trauma on trust, vulnerability, and social relationships How therapy, self-awareness, and forgiveness foster healing and growth The significance of purpose: from dreaming of TV stardom to helping people and animals Transitioning careers: from boy band vocals to dog hydrotherapist and behaviouralist The lessons dogs teach about human emotion, trauma, and forgiveness The importance of freedom, boundaries, and letting go of toxic relationships Insights into resilience, resourcefulness, and making meaningful change The role of spirituality, kindness, and love in mental and emotional wellbeing Practical advice for those feeling trapped by their past to find hope and change Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction and Leon's background in overcoming adversity 01:06 - Childhood in care: stigma and early influences 02:04 - How media influenced perceptions of childhood adversity 03:03 - Impact on friendships and social environment 04:31 - Childhood labels and their emotional weight 05:22 - Lessons from difficult childhood: trust and vulnerability 05:52 - How childhood experiences shape adult trust and suspicion 07:19 - Vulnerability and naive trust: the risks of openness 08:47 - Managing social perceptions and approaches to trust 09:46 - Dealing with rejection and misunderstanding in social settings 10:25 - Healing through rehab and EMDR therapy 11:23 - Rediscovering kindness and emotional expression 12:50 - Life transitions: from music and entertainment to dog therapy 13:09 - Personal spiritual visions and purpose at age 8 14:38 - Childhood resourcefulness: using imagination as a survival tool 16:37 - The accidental journey into dog hydrotherapy 18:07 - Learning and qualifications in dog behaviour 19:59 - Working with challenging dogs and trust issues 21:22 - Making sense of seemingly unrelated career paths 22:36 - The impact of negative foster experiences and finding a voice 23:34 - Childhood silence and the significance of expression 24:33 - Imaginary escapes and how fantasy helped survive trauma 26:01 - Forgiveness and emotional detachment as pathways to freedom 27:28 - Resourcefulness: focusing on hope and survival 28:51 - Letting go of hate and embracing emotional resilience 29:19 - Instinctive kindness and natural forgiveness 30:19 - The importance of freedom in healing and life choices 32:18 - Parallels between human and dog behaviour in trauma response 34:13 - Lessons from dogs about emotional health and human behaviour 35:12 - Reinventing careers: courage and inevitable fear 36:02 - Moving beyond toxicity and the importance of self-belief 37:56 - The cyclic nature of life journeys and purpose 39:22 - Defining a purposeful life: helping others and spiritual growth 40:20 - Following love's guiding principle in decision-making 41:04 - Advice for those feeling trapped by their history 42:01 - How change begins within: inner transformation as key 43:24 - Personal stories of survival and resourcefulness 44:50 - Words to younger self: focus on identity, self-belief, and authenticity 46:09 - Reflections on growth, change, and staying true to oneself 47:07 - Closing notes and gratitude https://www.linkedin.com/in/leon-towers-6899791ba/ https://thepowerofdog.com/ https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fix-Your-Three-Easy-Steps/dp/1788405005

   Discover how strength training can revolutionize health, aging, and self-confidence through evidence-based insights from Dr Lynette Ewart. This episode explores the intersection of medicine, coaching, and the psychological power of physical resilience. In this episode, we discuss: Lynette's journey from NHS GP to strength coach and health advocate How strength training can serve as a cornerstone of preventive healthcare The psychological transformation that comes with building physical strength The barriers that prevent people from adopting healthier habits Myths around weight, health, and beauty standards online The importance of function, capacity, and resilience over appearance The impact of social media on health perceptions and misinformation The differences in fitness culture across genders and generations How to rebuild trust in one's body after injury or trauma Strategies for shifting from coping to thriving in health and life Lynette's upcoming book on strength as a central pillar of health Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction to Lynette Ewart and her mission 01:14 - Transition from GP to strength coaching 02:38 - The magic of weightlifting in health 04:13 - Medicine vs coaching: understanding behavior change 05:57 - Challenges faced by GPs in motivating patients 07:35 - Realities of system constraints on doctors 08:57 - The mental health of healthcare professionals 10:36 - How social media influences health perceptions 12:19 - The risk of early GP retirement and workforce shifts 13:54 - The influence of online coaching and misinformation 16:16 - Myths about weight and fitness 18:22 - The psychological effects of feeling physically strong 22:41 - Overcoming body shame through strength 24:55 - The importance of functional fitness in aging 26:26 - Rebuilding trust in your body after injury 30:35 - Self-compassion and managing self-critical voices 34:43 - Moving from punishment to restorative activity 37:12 - Gender and generational differences in fitness culture 39:00 - Shift from appearance to function in health 43:50 - The evolving goals around health and confidence 44:23 - The psychology of stepping into a new identity 50:12 - Moving from coping to thriving in life 52:12 - Lynette's upcoming book on strength and health 54:24 - Final thoughts and meeting in October https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-prescription-strength-podcast/id1762298788 https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61555348196566&locale=en_GB https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-lynette-ewart-23323b80/

Discover how strength training can revolutionize health, aging, and self-confidence through evidence-based insights from Dr Lynette Ewart. This episode explores the intersection of medicine, coaching, and the psychological power of physical resilience. In this episode, we discuss: Lynette's journey from NHS GP to strength coach and health advocate How strength training can serve as a cornerstone of preventive healthcare The psychological transformation that comes with building physical strength The barriers that prevent people from adopting healthier habits Myths around weight, health, and beauty standards online The importance of function, capacity, and resilience over appearance The impact of social media on health perceptions and misinformation The differences in fitness culture across genders and generations How to rebuild trust in one's body after injury or trauma Strategies for shifting from coping to thriving in health and life Lynette's upcoming book on strength as a central pillar of health Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction to Lynette Ewart and her mission 01:14 - Transition from GP to strength coaching 02:38 - The magic of weightlifting in health 04:13 - Medicine vs coaching: understanding behavior change 05:57 - Challenges faced by GPs in motivating patients 07:35 - Realities of system constraints on doctors 08:57 - The mental health of healthcare professionals 10:36 - How social media influences health perceptions 12:19 - The risk of early GP retirement and workforce shifts 13:54 - The influence of online coaching and misinformation 16:16 - Myths about weight and fitness 18:22 - The psychological effects of feeling physically strong 22:41 - Overcoming body shame through strength 24:55 - The importance of functional fitness in aging 26:26 - Rebuilding trust in your body after injury 30:35 - Self-compassion and managing self-critical voices 34:43 - Moving from punishment to restorative activity 37:12 - Gender and generational differences in fitness culture 39:00 - Shift from appearance to function in health 43:50 - The evolving goals around health and confidence 44:23 - The psychology of stepping into a new identity 50:12 - Moving from coping to thriving in life 52:12 - Lynette's upcoming book on strength and health 54:24 - Final thoughts and meeting in October https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-prescription-strength-podcast/id1762298788 https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61555348196566&locale=en_GB https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-lynette-ewart-23323b80/  

summary In this episode which is a bit outside of our usual conversations, we meet  Max Schurer who shares his multifaceted relationship with comedy, exploring what makes things funny, the purpose of comedy, and its impact on society and individual well-being. We look at the art of stand-up, societal boundaries, and how comedy can both divide and unite. keywords comedy, stand-up, societal boundaries, humour, mental health, cultural boundaries, comedy festivals, audience engagement key topics What makes people laugh and the subjectivity of humour The purpose of comedy beyond entertainment The role of comedy in reflecting and challenging society Different genres of comedy including stand-up and TV comedy The relationship between comedy and mental health Cultural boundaries and societal norms in comedy The craft of performing and the importance of audience reading Using comedy for societal healing and community engagement Sound Bites "What makes one person laugh can insult another" "Comedy can challenge society and hold a mirror up" "Laughter releases chemicals that are good for you" Chapters approximate 0:00Introduction to Max Schurer's Background 01:00Max's Relationship with Comedy 02:36What Makes People Find Things Funny? 04:54The Purpose of Comedy 06:38Genres and Forms of Comedy 07:07Timelessness of Certain Jokes 09:05Repeating Comedy Acts and Audience Loyalty 10:28Visual Comedy and Persona (Tommy Cooper) 10:57Defining 'Good' Comedy and Cultural Boundaries 12:02Different Forms of Comedy: Stand-up, TV, and Sketches 15:26Comedy's Role in Well-being and Happiness 17:03Offense, Boundaries, and Audience Reactions 19:21Comedy and Audience Expectations 20:56Performance Variability and Audience Reception 23:42The Challenges of Being a Comedian 25:37Mental Health and Comedy 33:14Power Dynamics in Comedy 35:35The Challenge of Being Funny on Demand 38:40Authenticity and Boundaries in Comedy 41:52Societal Boundaries and Evolving Norms 45:39Comedy as a Reflection and a Tool for Society 51:40Max's Work in Promoting Comedy and Well-being

summary In this episode which is a bit outside of our usual conversations, we meet  Max Schurer who shares his multifaceted relationship with comedy, exploring what makes things funny, the purpose of comedy, and its impact on society and individual well-being. We look at the art of stand-up, societal boundaries, and how comedy can both divide and unite. keywords comedy, stand-up, societal boundaries, humour, mental health, cultural boundaries, comedy festivals, audience engagement key topics What makes people laugh and the subjectivity of humour The purpose of comedy beyond entertainment The role of comedy in reflecting and challenging society Different genres of comedy including stand-up and TV comedy The relationship between comedy and mental health Cultural boundaries and societal norms in comedy The craft of performing and the importance of audience reading Using comedy for societal healing and community engagement Sound Bites "What makes one person laugh can insult another" "Comedy can challenge society and hold a mirror up" "Laughter releases chemicals that are good for you" Chapters approximate 0:00Introduction to Max Schurer's Background 01:00Max's Relationship with Comedy 02:36What Makes People Find Things Funny? 04:54The Purpose of Comedy 06:38Genres and Forms of Comedy 07:07Timelessness of Certain Jokes 09:05Repeating Comedy Acts and Audience Loyalty 10:28Visual Comedy and Persona (Tommy Cooper) 10:57Defining 'Good' Comedy and Cultural Boundaries 12:02Different Forms of Comedy: Stand-up, TV, and Sketches 15:26Comedy's Role in Well-being and Happiness 17:03Offense, Boundaries, and Audience Reactions 19:21Comedy and Audience Expectations 20:56Performance Variability and Audience Reception 23:42The Challenges of Being a Comedian 25:37Mental Health and Comedy 33:14Power Dynamics in Comedy 35:35The Challenge of Being Funny on Demand 38:40Authenticity and Boundaries in Comedy 41:52Societal Boundaries and Evolving Norms 45:39Comedy as a Reflection and a Tool for Society 51:40Max's Work in Promoting Comedy and Well-being

Simon Scott 2 (Video); The Hidden Emotional Toll on Families of Long-Sentenced Prisoners This episode examines the often-overlooked emotional and social consequences faced by families of prisoners serving lengthy or life sentences. David Jones and Naomi Murphy talk with Simon Scott, a researcher with lived experience, about his groundbreaking PhD study on the ripple effects of incarceration on loved ones and society. Main Topics: The emotional burden and "dark sentences" borne by families of long-term prisoners Challenges and systemic absurdities within probation and criminal justice support systems The societal stigma, moral contamination, and moral judgments attached to familial ties with convicted individuals The concept of a "dark sentence" and its relational impact Recommendations for recognizing families' roles and improving systemic support structures Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction to Simon Scott's background and research focus 02:46 - Exploring why family impact of long sentences is vital to understand 04:28 - Methodology: research with family members of prisoners 06:00 - The importance of closeness and confidentiality in research 08:33 - The theme of family as emotional "punch bag" and displacement 11:09 - Family members' roles in absorbing emotional blows 13:24 - Use of phenomenological language like "Kafkaesque" to describe systemic absurdities 14:11 - Real-life examples of systemic absurdities impacting families 16:06 - The political and systemic obstacles to compassionate policies 17:13 - Society's difficulty in understanding and supporting families of prisoners 18:49 - The systemic assumption that more conditions equate to safety 20:20 - The absurdity in supporting evidence requests and policy inconsistencies 21:22 - Emotional distress, grief, and stigma experienced by families 23:03 - Coping mechanisms: silence, peer groups, and advocacy 24:49 - The social and relational "dark sentences" that extend beyond incarceration 27:16 - The concept of "dark sentences" and their emotional weight 30:07 - The relationship between families and probation services 32:56 - The societal tendency to stigmatize and judge loved ones of offenders 34:42 - The moral contamination of families associated with serious crimes 36:19 - Media influence on public attitudes and policy priorities 37:38 - What needs to change: recognition and systemic support for families 39:12 - Practical suggestions for offering support without systemic fear of repercussions 41:02 - Community-led and peer support networks as vital resources 42:07 - Personal reflections from Simon on the emotional toll of research 44:57 - Final thoughts on change and systemic reform 47:13 - Closing remarks and appreciation for sharing this challenging and vital research Resources & Links: Partners of Prisoners (POPs) Probation Services – Official UK Gov Site This episode examines the often-overlooked emotional and social consequences faced by families of prisoners serving lengthy or life sentences. David Jones and Naomi Murphy talk with Simon Scott, a researcher with lived experience, about his groundbreaking PhD study on the ripple effects of incarceration on loved ones and society. Main Topics: The emotional burden and "dark sentences" borne by families of long-term prisoners Challenges and systemic absurdities within probation and criminal justice support systems The societal stigma, moral contamination, and moral judgments attached to familial ties with convicted individuals The concept of a "dark sentence" and its relational impact Recommendations for recognizing families' roles and improving systemic support structures Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction to Simon Scott's background and research focus 02:46 - Exploring why family impact of long sentences is vital to understand 04:28 - Methodology: research with family members of prisoners 06:00 - The importance of closeness and confidentiality in research 08:33 - The theme of family as emotional "punch bag" and displacement 11:09 - Family members' roles in absorbing emotional blows 13:24 - Use of phenomenological language like "Kafkaesque" to describe systemic absurdities 14:11 - Real-life examples of systemic absurdities impacting families 16:06 - The political and systemic obstacles to compassionate policies 17:13 - Society's difficulty in understanding and supporting families of prisoners 18:49 - The systemic assumption that more conditions equate to safety 20:20 - The absurdity in supporting evidence requests and policy inconsistencies 21:22 - Emotional distress, grief, and stigma experienced by families 23:03 - Coping mechanisms: silence, peer groups, and advocacy 24:49 - The social and relational "dark sentences" that extend beyond incarceration 27:16 - The concept of "dark sentences" and their emotional weight 30:07 - The relationship between families and probation services 32:56 - The societal tendency to stigmatize and judge loved ones of offenders 34:42 - The moral contamination of families associated with serious crimes 36:19 - Media influence on public attitudes and policy priorities 37:38 - What needs to change: recognition and systemic support for families 39:12 - Practical suggestions for offering support without systemic fear of repercussions 41:02 - Community-led and peer support networks as vital resources 42:07 - Personal reflections from Simon on the emotional toll of research 44:57 - Final thoughts on change and systemic reform 47:13 - Closing remarks and appreciation for sharing this challenging and vital research Resources & Links: Partners of Prisoners (POPs) Probation Services – Official UK Gov Site

This episode examines the often-overlooked emotional and social consequences faced by families of prisoners serving lengthy or life sentences. David Jones and Naomi Murphy talk with Simon Scott, a researcher with lived experience, about his groundbreaking PhD study on the ripple effects of incarceration on loved ones and society. Main Topics: The emotional burden and "dark sentences" borne by families of long-term prisoners Challenges and systemic absurdities within probation and criminal justice support systems The societal stigma, moral contamination, and moral judgments attached to familial ties with convicted individuals The concept of a "dark sentence" and its relational impact Recommendations for recognizing families' roles and improving systemic support structures Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction to Simon Scott's background and research focus 02:46 - Exploring why family impact of long sentences is vital to understand 04:28 - Methodology: research with family members of prisoners 06:00 - The importance of closeness and confidentiality in research 08:33 - The theme of family as emotional "punch bag" and displacement 11:09 - Family members' roles in absorbing emotional blows 13:24 - Use of phenomenological language like "Kafkaesque" to describe systemic absurdities 14:11 - Real-life examples of systemic absurdities impacting families 16:06 - The political and systemic obstacles to compassionate policies 17:13 - Society's difficulty in understanding and supporting families of prisoners 18:49 - The systemic assumption that more conditions equate to safety 20:20 - The absurdity in supporting evidence requests and policy inconsistencies 21:22 - Emotional distress, grief, and stigma experienced by families 23:03 - Coping mechanisms: silence, peer groups, and advocacy 24:49 - The social and relational "dark sentences" that extend beyond incarceration 27:16 - The concept of "dark sentences" and their emotional weight 30:07 - The relationship between families and probation services 32:56 - The societal tendency to stigmatize and judge loved ones of offenders 34:42 - The moral contamination of families associated with serious crimes 36:19 - Media influence on public attitudes and policy priorities 37:38 - What needs to change: recognition and systemic support for families 39:12 - Practical suggestions for offering support without systemic fear of repercussions 41:02 - Community-led and peer support networks as vital resources 42:07 - Personal reflections from Simon on the emotional toll of research 44:57 - Final thoughts on change and systemic reform 47:13 - Closing remarks and appreciation for sharing this challenging and vital research Resources & Links: Partners of Prisoners (POPs) Probation Services – Official UK Gov Site This episode examines the often-overlooked emotional and social consequences faced by families of prisoners serving lengthy or life sentences. David Jones and Naomi Murphy talk with Simon Scott, a researcher with lived experience, about his groundbreaking PhD study on the ripple effects of incarceration on loved ones and society. Main Topics: The emotional burden and "dark sentences" borne by families of long-term prisoners Challenges and systemic absurdities within probation and criminal justice support systems The societal stigma, moral contamination, and moral judgments attached to familial ties with convicted individuals The concept of a "dark sentence" and its relational impact Recommendations for recognizing families' roles and improving systemic support structures Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction to Simon Scott's background and research focus 02:46 - Exploring why family impact of long sentences is vital to understand 04:28 - Methodology: research with family members of prisoners 06:00 - The importance of closeness and confidentiality in research 08:33 - The theme of family as emotional "punch bag" and displacement 11:09 - Family members' roles in absorbing emotional blows 13:24 - Use of phenomenological language like "Kafkaesque" to describe systemic absurdities 14:11 - Real-life examples of systemic absurdities impacting families 16:06 - The political and systemic obstacles to compassionate policies 17:13 - Society's difficulty in understanding and supporting families of prisoners 18:49 - The systemic assumption that more conditions equate to safety 20:20 - The absurdity in supporting evidence requests and policy inconsistencies 21:22 - Emotional distress, grief, and stigma experienced by families 23:03 - Coping mechanisms: silence, peer groups, and advocacy 24:49 - The social and relational "dark sentences" that extend beyond incarceration 27:16 - The concept of "dark sentences" and their emotional weight 30:07 - The relationship between families and probation services 32:56 - The societal tendency to stigmatize and judge loved ones of offenders 34:42 - The moral contamination of families associated with serious crimes 36:19 - Media influence on public attitudes and policy priorities 37:38 - What needs to change: recognition and systemic support for families 39:12 - Practical suggestions for offering support without systemic fear of repercussions 41:02 - Community-led and peer support networks as vital resources 42:07 - Personal reflections from Simon on the emotional toll of research 44:57 - Final thoughts on change and systemic reform 47:13 - Closing remarks and appreciation for sharing this challenging and vital research Resources & Links: Partners of Prisoners (POPs) Probation Services – Official UK Gov Site  

summary Dr Coral Westaway (Video); Why Should Modern Psychology Embrace Energy and Spirituality?   In this conversation Dr Naomi Murphy and David Jones meet with Dr. Coral Westaway and explore the world of energy psychology, its techniques like EFT, and its integration with traditional psychology. She shares her personal journey, the importance of holistic health, and how energy work can transform mental health practices. Dr Coral Westaway is a Clinical Psychologist and Energy Psychotherapist with over 20 years of experience at the intersection of psychology, spirituality, and holistic health. Known as The Energy Psychologist, she brings together doctoral - level clinical training with energy psychotherapy, conscious connected breathwork, and body practice; creating a bridge between mainstream psychology and the energetic and spiritual dimensions of our lives. Coral's work is rooted in a simple but radical belief: that the body holds our truth, and that real transformation happens not just in the mind, but through the whole system. Her own journey with stage 3+ colon cancer in 2021 deepened this understanding profoundly, and now informs everything she does. Alongside her individual therapy and supervision work, Coral runs The Receiving Revolution : a 7 - week group programme for therapists, psychologists, and helping professionals who chronically overgive. These are the helpers who understand their patterns intellectually but find they cannot shift them at the level of the body and energy. The Receiving Revolution supports them to readdress that imbalance, reconnect with their own wisdom, and build lives and practices that are sustainable and genuinely nourish them. You can find Coral at www.theenergypsychologist.org, and there is a growing library of free sessions for conscious therapists on her YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/@TheEnergyPsychologist. To find out more about The Receiving Revolution, visit her website or find her on Instagram @theenergypsychologist.  keywords   Energy Psychology, EFT, Holistic Health, Mind-Body Connection, Spirituality in Psychology, Energy Medicine, Conscious Breathwork, Chakra, Meridian, Healing Techniques      key  topics   Energy psychology techniques like EFT and meridian work The integration of spirituality and science in mental health Personal journey into energy medicine and holistic health    sound bites   "Energy is in motion in everything." "Blocks to energy flow limit our potential." "The future of holistic health is energetic."   Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Energy Psychology 06:18 Personal Journey into Energy Medicine 09:15 Bridging Science and Spirituality 14:22 The Receiving Revolution Program 18:14 Understanding Overgiving and Caregiving 22:52 The Importance of the Body in Mental Health 26:33 Exploring Love and Heart Energy in Psychology 30:32 The Future of AI in Therapy 33:54 The Evolution of Energy Psychology 35:35 Ten second outro video.mp4    resources   Energy Psychology Institute - https://energypsychologyinstitute.org/ Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT) - https://www.palaceofpossibilities.com/

summary In this conversation Dr Naomi Murphy and David Jones meet with Dr. Coral Westaway and explore the world of energy psychology, its techniques like EFT, and its integration with traditional psychology. She shares her personal journey, the importance of holistic health, and how energy work can transform mental health practices. Dr Coral Westaway is a Clinical Psychologist and Energy Psychotherapist with over 20 years of experience at the intersection of psychology, spirituality, and holistic health. Known as The Energy Psychologist, she brings together doctoral - level clinical training with energy psychotherapy, conscious connected breathwork, and body practice; creating a bridge between mainstream psychology and the energetic and spiritual dimensions of our lives. Coral's work is rooted in a simple but radical belief: that the body holds our truth, and that real transformation happens not just in the mind, but through the whole system. Her own journey with stage 3+ colon cancer in 2021 deepened this understanding profoundly, and now informs everything she does. Alongside her individual therapy and supervision work, Coral runs The Receiving Revolution : a 7 - week group programme for therapists, psychologists, and helping professionals who chronically overgive. These are the helpers who understand their patterns intellectually but find they cannot shift them at the level of the body and energy. The Receiving Revolution supports them to readdress that imbalance, reconnect with their own wisdom, and build lives and practices that are sustainable and genuinely nourish them. You can find Coral at www.theenergypsychologist.org, and there is a growing library of free sessions for conscious therapists on her YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/@TheEnergyPsychologist. To find out more about The Receiving Revolution, visit her website or find her on Instagram @theenergypsychologist.  keywords   Energy Psychology, EFT, Holistic Health, Mind-Body Connection, Spirituality in Psychology, Energy Medicine, Conscious Breathwork, Chakra, Meridian, Healing Techniques      key  topics   Energy psychology techniques like EFT and meridian work The integration of spirituality and science in mental health Personal journey into energy medicine and holistic health    sound bites   "Energy is in motion in everything." "Blocks to energy flow limit our potential." "The future of holistic health is energetic."   Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Energy Psychology 06:18 Personal Journey into Energy Medicine 09:15 Bridging Science and Spirituality 14:22 The Receiving Revolution Program 18:14 Understanding Overgiving and Caregiving 22:52 The Importance of the Body in Mental Health 26:33 Exploring Love and Heart Energy in Psychology 30:32 The Future of AI in Therapy 33:54 The Evolution of Energy Psychology 35:35 Ten second outro video.mp4    resources   Energy Psychology Institute - https://energypsychologyinstitute.org/ Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT) - https://www.palaceofpossibilities.com/

 This episode Highlights an urgent situation that we would like you all to act upon by following the links below and doing what you can. In particular sign the petition. Jeffrey Lee is due to be executed 11th June and the podcast with Laurel Hattix sheds light on the urgent and complex issues surrounding the death penalty, wrongful convictions, and criminal justice reform in Alabama through the story of Jeffrey Lee. Laurel Haddix, an Assistant Federal Defender, discusses the systemic failures that contributed to his case and advocates for justice and change.   KEY TOPICS The case of Jeffrey Lee: history, legal challenges, and imminent execution How Alabama's system of judicial override led to wrongful sentencing The impact of underfunded public defense, especially in capital cases Racial disparities in the death penalty system and jury selection The untested method of nitrogen hypoxia as a new form of execution The importance of community, faith, and resilience among death row inmates Legal and legislative efforts to abolish or reform judicial override The role of public advocacy, petitions, and clemency in justice campaigns Systemic failures: racial bias, lack of mental health resources, and structural injustice How Alabama's practice of "death qualifying" juries affects fairness in trials The emotional toll on inmates, families, and advocates fighting against the death penalty Timestamps: 00:02 - Introduction to Jeffrey Lee's case and the significance of systemic injustice 00:31 - Details of the crime and initial trial background 01:21 - Flaws in legal representation due to systemic underfunding 02:45 - The impact of inadequate defense in capital cases 04:02 - Jury decision for life without parole vs. judicial override for death sentence 04:32 - Explanation of Alabama's judicial override system 05:47 - The political vulnerability of judicial override decisions 06:44 - Reforms in Alabama: abolition of judicial override in 2017 07:36 - The retrospective impact of the reform and ongoing cases 08:54 - Challenges in current legal appeals and the role of clemency  09:57 - Advocacy strategies outside the court system 11:25 - Public perceptions of jury decision-making and justice transparency 12:57 - Community responses and why the process is misunderstood 14:24 - The mental health struggles of Jeffrey Lee and systemic neglect 15:46 - Jury selection biases and the effects of "death qualification" 18:11 - Development and disparities in Alabama's death penalty practices 30:30 - The untested method of nitrogen hypoxia and its dangers 36:43 - The hope and faith of Jeffrey Lee's resilience and advocacy 37:42 - How listeners can get involved and support the cause 38:48 - Closing remarks and call to action for justice and reformResources & Links: Life for Jeffery Lee — Learn more about Jeffrey Lee's story and how to help https://www.lifeforjefferylee.com/action   PETITION Project Hope to Abolish the Death Penalty — Organization leading advocacy on Alabama's death row

 This episode Highlights an urgent situation that we would like you all to act upon by following the links below and doing what you can. In particular sign the petition. Jeffrey Lee is due to be executed 11th June and the podcast with Laurel Hattix sheds light on the urgent and complex issues surrounding the death penalty, wrongful convictions, and criminal justice reform in Alabama through the story of Jeffrey Lee. Laurel Haddix, an Assistant Federal Defender, discusses the systemic failures that contributed to his case and advocates for justice and change. KEY TOPICS The case of Jeffrey Lee: history, legal challenges, and imminent execution How Alabama's system of judicial override led to wrongful sentencing The impact of underfunded public defense, especially in capital cases Racial disparities in the death penalty system and jury selection The untested method of nitrogen hypoxia as a new form of execution The importance of community, faith, and resilience among death row inmates Legal and legislative efforts to abolish or reform judicial override The role of public advocacy, petitions, and clemency in justice campaigns Systemic failures: racial bias, lack of mental health resources, and structural injustice How Alabama's practice of "death qualifying" juries affects fairness in trials The emotional toll on inmates, families, and advocates fighting against the death penalty Timestamps: 00:02 - Introduction to Jeffrey Lee's case and the significance of systemic injustice 00:31 - Details of the crime and initial trial background 01:21 - Flaws in legal representation due to systemic underfunding 02:45 - The impact of inadequate defense in capital cases 04:02 - Jury decision for life without parole vs. judicial override for death sentence 04:32 - Explanation of Alabama's judicial override system 05:47 - The political vulnerability of judicial override decisions 06:44 - Reforms in Alabama: abolition of judicial override in 2017 07:36 - The retrospective impact of the reform and ongoing cases 08:54 - Challenges in current legal appeals and the role of clemency  09:57 - Advocacy strategies outside the court system 11:25 - Public perceptions of jury decision-making and justice transparency 12:57 - Community responses and why the process is misunderstood 14:24 - The mental health struggles of Jeffrey Lee and systemic neglect 15:46 - Jury selection biases and the effects of "death qualification" 18:11 - Development and disparities in Alabama's death penalty practices 30:30 - The untested method of nitrogen hypoxia and its dangers 36:43 - The hope and faith of Jeffrey Lee's resilience and advocacy 37:42 - How listeners can get involved and support the cause 38:48 - Closing remarks and call to action for justice and reformResources & Links: Life for Jeffery Lee — Learn more about Jeffrey Lee's story and how to help https://www.lifeforjefferylee.com/action   PETITION Project Hope to Abolish the Death Penalty — Organization leading advocacy on Alabama's death row

In this episode, Dr. Steph Davies shares her extensive experience working at the front lines of death investigations, challenging assumptions, and uncovering hidden truths in suspicious and staged scenes. Her insights highlight the importance of meticulous forensic analysis and the pressing need for improved training and procedures in the UK's coronial system. Stephanie Davies is a former Senior Coroner's Officer and now an independent inquisitorial death investigator. She has a forensic science and forensic psychology background, and she has been investigating deaths for over twenty years. She is now studying for a doctorate and she consults on complex cases on behalf of families and lawyers.    To find out more about Steph, please visit: www.deathinvestigator.co.uk     Key topics: The roles and responsibilities of a coroner's officer versus a coroner Steph's journey from forensic science and psychology to death investigations Challenges faced by deaf professionals in forensic fields Bloodstain pattern analysis and staged crime scene recognition Investigating suspicious deaths and recognizing red flags The Wilmslow murders case: forensic re-evaluation and uncovering potential serial offenses The importance of critical thinking and attention to detail in forensic investigations The false narratives and misinterpretations in high-profile cases like Lucy Letby The systemic issues and misconduct in police investigations and whistleblowing experiences Comparing US and UK practices in death investigation and training gaps The value of independent forensic consultancy in complex cases How working with death emphasizes the significance of life and the importance of truth Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction to Steph Davies and her forensic background   02:43 - Role of a coroner's officer and how it differs from a coroner   05:16 - Steph's career journey and forensic interests   07:31 - Misconceptions about New York Police and forensic work in America   09:39 - Living with a hearing impairment and its impact on Steph's career   12:36 - Day-to-day responsibilities of a coroner's officer and investigations   15:54 - Specialized training in staged crime scenes and bloodstain analysis   17:09 - Collaborating with police and other investigators on complex cases   18:41 - What drew Steph to investigate suspicious deaths and her inquisitive nature   22:39 - The Wilmslow murders: forensic re-examination and uncovering inconsistencies   27:53 - The potential presence of a serial offender and systemic investigation issues   32:13 - Re-evaluation of a series of suspicious cases and red flags   37:17 - The controversy and systemic flaws in police investigations and investigations' aftermath   41:54 - Leaked reports, police misconduct, and challenges faced as a whistleblower   48:32 - The Lucy Letby case: forensic misinterpretations and miscarriages of justice   52:02 - Developing a moral compass and fighting systemic injustice   55:07 - Ongoing studies in coronial death determination and international practices   57:33 - Independent consulting work and future plans in complex forensic cases   60:02 - The impact of working with death on valuing life and pursuit of truth Resources & Links: Coronial Manner of Death Determination in Equivocal Deaths and Staged Crime Scenes (Doctoral Research) (replace with actual URL)   Note: This episode sheds light on the intricacies of forensic death investigations, emphasizing the importance of critical analysis, scientific rigor, and ethical responsibility in uncovering truth and justice.

In this episode, Dr. Steph Davies shares her extensive experience working at the front lines of death investigations, challenging assumptions, and uncovering hidden truths in suspicious and staged scenes. Her insights highlight the importance of meticulous forensic analysis and the pressing need for improved training and procedures in the UK's coronial system. Stephanie Davies is a former Senior Coroner's Officer and now an independent inquisitorial death investigator. She has a forensic science and forensic psychology background, and she has been investigating deaths for over twenty years. She is now studying for a doctorate and she consults on complex cases on behalf of families and lawyers.    To find out more about Steph, please visit: www.deathinvestigator.co.uk     Key topics: The roles and responsibilities of a coroner's officer versus a coroner Steph's journey from forensic science and psychology to death investigations Challenges faced by deaf professionals in forensic fields Bloodstain pattern analysis and staged crime scene recognition Investigating suspicious deaths and recognizing red flags The Wilmslow murders case: forensic re-evaluation and uncovering potential serial offenses The importance of critical thinking and attention to detail in forensic investigations The false narratives and misinterpretations in high-profile cases like Lucy Letby The systemic issues and misconduct in police investigations and whistleblowing experiences Comparing US and UK practices in death investigation and training gaps The value of independent forensic consultancy in complex cases How working with death emphasizes the significance of life and the importance of truth Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction to Steph Davies and her forensic background   02:43 - Role of a coroner's officer and how it differs from a coroner   05:16 - Steph's career journey and forensic interests   07:31 - Misconceptions about New York Police and forensic work in America   09:39 - Living with a hearing impairment and its impact on Steph's career   12:36 - Day-to-day responsibilities of a coroner's officer and investigations   15:54 - Specialized training in staged crime scenes and bloodstain analysis   17:09 - Collaborating with police and other investigators on complex cases   18:41 - What drew Steph to investigate suspicious deaths and her inquisitive nature   22:39 - The Wilmslow murders: forensic re-examination and uncovering inconsistencies   27:53 - The potential presence of a serial offender and systemic investigation issues   32:13 - Re-evaluation of a series of suspicious cases and red flags   37:17 - The controversy and systemic flaws in police investigations and investigations' aftermath   41:54 - Leaked reports, police misconduct, and challenges faced as a whistleblower   48:32 - The Lucy Letby case: forensic misinterpretations and miscarriages of justice   52:02 - Developing a moral compass and fighting systemic injustice   55:07 - Ongoing studies in coronial death determination and international practices   57:33 - Independent consulting work and future plans in complex forensic cases   60:02 - The impact of working with death on valuing life and pursuit of truth Resources & Links: Coronial Manner of Death Determination in Equivocal Deaths and Staged Crime Scenes (Doctoral Research) (replace with actual URL)   Note: This episode sheds light on the intricacies of forensic death investigations, emphasizing the importance of critical analysis, scientific rigor, and ethical responsibility in uncovering truth and justice.

Following last weeks expanded conversation with Chris Scanlon about the Henderson Hospital Dr Fiona Warren discusses her journey through her research career which involved personality disorders, therapeutic communities, and service effectiveness. This episode, an expanded version of the original from 2021 explores the historical context, research challenges, and the future of treatment approaches. It complements the conversation with Dr Chris Scanlon. ' I have worked in the NHS and academic psychology teaching and researching “Personality Disorders” and related aspects such as impulsive behaviours and self-harm; offending; attachment styles and mentalization; treatment outcomes and staff training since early 1990s, including ten years in Clinical Psychology Training. Having trained more recently in coaching, I am also interested in contributing to the evidence base in coaching psychology. I have taught and examined both quantitative and qualitative methodologies. Doing much of my "growing up" as a psychologist and researcher in a Democratic Therapeutic Community, I am committed to the involvement of those with "lived experience" in Clinical Training, research and service development.' Key topics: Fiona Warren's career path from Henderson Hospital to university research and coaching. The significance of Henderson Hospital in pioneering personality disorder treatment. Challenges and ethics of conducting research in sensitive settings. Qualitative versus quantitative research methods in mental health. Cost-effectiveness studies of Henderson Hospital and their implications. Evolving understanding of trauma-informed care and its impact on research. The influence of therapeutic community principles like democratization and reality confrontation. Political, social, and structural factors affecting mental health service provision. The debate around what defines a therapeutic community and research standardization. Personal reflections on growth, healing, and the importance of nature and literature. Timestamps: 00:00 - Fiona Warren's background and career journey 02:23 - Heritage and research at Henderson Hospital 04:33 - Balancing research independence and clinical activity 06:58 - The importance of familiarity in research settings 07:52 - Using qualitative methods in personality disorder research 10:14 - Impact of trauma-informed conceptualizations on research 11:37 - Cost effectiveness of Henderson Hospital 13:03 - Service use reduction and economic implications 15:10 - Trauma, challenging behaviors, and the role of therapeutic environments 16:37 - Therapeutic pessimism and education in mental health treatment 17:42 - Gender differences in trauma disclosure and treatment receptivity 20:11 - Factors influencing the longevity and impact of research 21:15 - Political and social influences on Henderson's closure 23:23 - Challenges of replicating and scaling therapeutic communities 30:47 - Fiona Warren's review of treatment for personality disorder 35:32 - Debates around defining therapy and research standards in therapeutic communities 40:49 - Reflections on Henderson Hospital's closure and its legacy 55:06 - Personal sources of nourishment and resilience outside workResources & Links:

Five years ago, 2021, David Jones and Naomi Murphy began the Locked up Living podcast. Over 400 episodes later we are still going and are proud of the library of conversations we have produced with so many excellent colleagues. This is an extended version of an episode from 2021 previously shared with Dr Fiona Warren and focuses on the closing of the Henderson Hospital. The full episode with Dr Warren features a discussion about the value and meaning of research in a socio-political climate that wants to look elsewhere. This episode features Dr. Christopher Scanlon, a consultant psychotherapist with decades of experience working with complex trauma and mental health services. Chris offers a candid reflection on the evolution, challenges, and possibilities of therapeutic communities, emphasizing the importance of social and relational approaches over purely biomedical models. Key topics: The history and legacy of Henderson Hospital as a pioneering therapeutic community How group and sociotherapy approaches foster belonging, resilience, and growth Critiques of the biomedical model and the limitations of randomized controlled trials for complex social interventions The impact of societal changes, neoliberal policies, and professional rivalries on specialist services The concept of the "unhoused mind" and societal exclusion as a psychosocial phenomenon Lessons from the demise of services like Henderson and what can be learned about service design and relational capacity The importance of community, belonging, and holding space for marginalized individuals How social dynamics and professional hierarchies influence treatment and organizational culture The threat of privatization and market-driven approaches to mental health services The importance of housing, inclusion, and societal belonging in healing trauma Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction to Chris Scanlon's background and work 01:08 - The psychosocial orientation versus psychoanalytic models 02:05 - The role of group analysis and community in treatment 03:23 - Experiences working at Henderson Hospital 04:37 - The interface of community assessment and outreach 06:15 - Challenges of referral and ethical consent in high-security settings 08:11 - Critique of personality disorder label and trauma adaptation 09:37 - Systemic dysfunction and medicalization of complex trauma 11:34 - Attitudes towards difficult patients and systemic resistance 13:19 - The system's reliance on medication and lack of holistic treatment 14:17 - Iatrogenic effects and the failure of biomedical dominance 16:10 - Societal trauma, racism, exclusion, and the "unhoused" state 17:16 - Organizational culture at Henderson and peer influence 18:48 - The significance of social relationships over formal therapy 19:55 - Key moments of social connection as pivotal to healing 20:34 - The decline of sociotherapy in prison and community settings 22:39 - Hierarchies, professional identity, and relational humility 23:23 - The undervaluing of milieu and social space in treatment 24:50 - Difficulties of measuring multi-modal, relational interventions 26:54 - Challenges of evidence-based support and cost-effectiveness 29:56 - The cost benefits of residential and community-based services 32:32 - Political and professional rivalries in resource allocation 35:06 - The impact of commissioning practices on service sustainability 36:11 - Lessons from the closure of Henderson and systemic failure 38:09 - The role of community and relational trust in service efficacy 40:12 - The importance of understanding failure through political and social lenses 43:27 - The influence of market forces and privatization on service models 44:30 - The threat of profit motives and the privatization of mental health in prison 49:53 - The challenge of belonging and power in community settings 57:29 - Building capacity for creativity and resilience through social spaces 60:06 - The importance of trust, shared authority, and authentic relationships 61:52 - The culture of inquiry and the transferential space 66:14 - The significance of presence, continuity, and shared lived experience 68:42 - The concept of the "Hendo" as a transference object and community symbol 73:56 - The "unhoused mind": societal exclusion, trauma, and belonging 76:47 - Society's role in housing and trauma, and the psychosocial lens 78:35 - Broader societal issues: extremism, colonialism, and systemic injustice 80:36 - The healing power of shared community and relational space 81:12 - Personal reflections on the loss of Henderson and current gaps 81:58 - The dangers of societal disconnection and the importance of inclusive belonging

In this episode of Locked up Living, Naomi Murphy and David Jones discuss the life of Keith Grounsell, a veteran police officer with nearly 30 years of experience in the field. Keith has spent much of his career navigating the perilous world of undercover operations, infiltrating drug cartels and exposing corruption at the highest levels. Keith shares his harrowing experiences, from the adrenaline-fueled moments of deep undercover work to the psychological toll of living a double life. He explains how he balanced the constant danger with his commitment to integrity and justice, all while maintaining a strong family life. Keith opens up about the challenges of facing violent criminals, the mental strain of deception, and the sacrifices made along the way. He also discusses the importance of mental health, faith, and writing as tools for coping with trauma. This episode offers a rare glimpse into the personal and professional growth of a man dedicated to making a difference, despite the risks. Whether you're interested in law enforcement, personal development, or the impact of a high-stakes career on family life, this conversation promises to be both enlightening and inspiring. Listen to hear Keith's insights on leadership, resilience, and the ongoing fight for justice in a world fraught with danger and corruption.  keywords law enforcement, undercover operations, leadership, integrity, mental health, crime, drug trafficking, corruption, resilience, public safety  key  topics Deep undercover operations and their psychological impact Leadership challenges and integrity in law enforcement The fight against drug trafficking and organized crime    sound bites "Stress management is crucial for officers" "Undercover work is scrutinized like no other" "Integrity is the foundation of law enforcement" Chapters 00:00 Keith Grounsell: A Journey Through Undercover Work 07:32 The Psychological Toll of Undercover Operations 12:04 The Drive for Excellence and Leadership 16:58 Facing the Consequences of Law Enforcement 22:55 The Struggles of Integrity in Law Enforcement 31:59 Understanding Human Trafficking and Its Roots 33:55 The Impact of Digital Exposure on Youth 34:53 The Psychological Toll of Undercover Work 40:58 The Journey of Writing and Storytelling 45:26 Navigating Relationships Amidst Public Scrutiny 50:06 Faith, Fitness, and Mental Resilience 56:14 The Unyielding Drive for Justice 01:01:23 Ten second outro video.mp4  resources Keith Grounsell's Books - https://grounsellbooks.com/ https://igilacademy.com/   Law Enforcement Leader, Anti-Corruption Advocate, Master Instructor and AuthorWith over 26 years of leadership in law enforcement and international advisory roles, Keith Grounsell has built a career defined by integrity, resilience, and a relentless fight against corruption. As a two-time Chief of Police, former DEA Special Agent, and Senior Law Enforcement Advisor on U.S. Department of State and UN contracts, Keith has led in some of the world's most demanding environments. His leadership has resulted in criminal convictions of corrupt officials, solidifying his role as an advocate for ethical leadership.Keith's deep undercover work, captured in his A Narc's Tale book series, inspired the A&E series Undercover: Caught on Tape, offering audiences raw insights into the challenges of law enforcement. His experiences working with over 30 countries—through post-hurricanes, pandemics like Ebola, civil wars, and more—equip him to speak powerfully on leadership under pressure, crisis management, and strategic planning in unpredictable environments.A published author of eight books, Keith also consulted on an award-winning human trafficking film, underscoring his dedication to justice and human rights. As a speaker, Keith captivates audiences with topics such as leadership, ethical decision-making, perseverance, working deep undercover, human trafficking, and overcoming adversity in challenging environments.His real-world experience and passion for integrity make Keith a sought-after keynote speaker and author. Whether addressing leadership challenges, career development, or community relations, his presentations and books inspire audiences to lead with purpose and create lasting change.

In this episode of Locked up Living, Naomi Murphy and David Jones discuss the life of Keith Grounsell, a veteran police officer with nearly 30 years of experience in the field. Keith has spent much of his career navigating the perilous world of undercover operations, infiltrating drug cartels and exposing corruption at the highest levels. Keith shares his harrowing experiences, from the adrenaline-fueled moments of deep undercover work to the psychological toll of living a double life. He explains how he balanced the constant danger with his commitment to integrity and justice, all while maintaining a strong family life. Keith opens up about the challenges of facing violent criminals, the mental strain of deception, and the sacrifices made along the way. He also discusses the importance of mental health, faith, and writing as tools for coping with trauma. This episode offers a rare glimpse into the personal and professional growth of a man dedicated to making a difference, despite the risks. Whether you're interested in law enforcement, personal development, or the impact of a high-stakes career on family life, this conversation promises to be both enlightening and inspiring. Listen to hear Keith's insights on leadership, resilience, and the ongoing fight for justice in a world fraught with danger and corruption.  keywords law enforcement, undercover operations, leadership, integrity, mental health, crime, drug trafficking, corruption, resilience, public safety  key  topics Deep undercover operations and their psychological impact Leadership challenges and integrity in law enforcement The fight against drug trafficking and organized crime    sound bites "Stress management is crucial for officers" "Undercover work is scrutinized like no other" "Integrity is the foundation of law enforcement" Chapters 00:00 Keith Grounsell: A Journey Through Undercover Work 07:32 The Psychological Toll of Undercover Operations 12:04 The Drive for Excellence and Leadership 16:58 Facing the Consequences of Law Enforcement 22:55 The Struggles of Integrity in Law Enforcement 31:59 Understanding Human Trafficking and Its Roots 33:55 The Impact of Digital Exposure on Youth 34:53 The Psychological Toll of Undercover Work 40:58 The Journey of Writing and Storytelling 45:26 Navigating Relationships Amidst Public Scrutiny 50:06 Faith, Fitness, and Mental Resilience 56:14 The Unyielding Drive for Justice 01:01:23 Ten second outro video.mp4  resources Keith Grounsell's Books - https://grounsellbooks.com/ https://igilacademy.com/   Law Enforcement Leader, Anti-Corruption Advocate, Master Instructor and AuthorWith over 26 years of leadership in law enforcement and international advisory roles, Keith Grounsell has built a career defined by integrity, resilience, and a relentless fight against corruption. As a two-time Chief of Police, former DEA Special Agent, and Senior Law Enforcement Advisor on U.S. Department of State and UN contracts, Keith has led in some of the world's most demanding environments. His leadership has resulted in criminal convictions of corrupt officials, solidifying his role as an advocate for ethical leadership.Keith's deep undercover work, captured in his A Narc's Tale book series, inspired the A&E series Undercover: Caught on Tape, offering audiences raw insights into the challenges of law enforcement. His experiences working with over 30 countries—through post-hurricanes, pandemics like Ebola, civil wars, and more—equip him to speak powerfully on leadership under pressure, crisis management, and strategic planning in unpredictable environments.A published author of eight books, Keith also consulted on an award-winning human trafficking film, underscoring his dedication to justice and human rights. As a speaker, Keith captivates audiences with topics such as leadership, ethical decision-making, perseverance, working deep undercover, human trafficking, and overcoming adversity in challenging environments.His real-world experience and passion for integrity make Keith a sought-after keynote speaker and author. Whether addressing leadership challenges, career development, or community relations, his presentations and books inspire audiences to lead with purpose and create lasting change.

  Join Dr Naomi Murphy and David Jones as they delve into the transformative power of literature within the criminal justice system, through the inspiring insights of Jean Trounstine. An author, activist, and educator, Jean shares her decades of work supporting incarcerated women, the arts behind bars, and her journey creating impactful stories that challenge perceptions of justice and rehabilitation. Her first novel, 'Sounds like trouble to me' is released on 12th May. In this episode, we cover: Jean's personal journey into prison education and theatre The role of arts and literature in fostering rehabilitation Differences between the US and England in prison programming The impact of classic literature, including Shakespeare, behind bars The significance of the Me Too movement in prison reform The process of researching and ensuring authenticity in her writing How storytelling can reveal the humanity of incarcerated women The community and bonds formed among women in prison Challenges and opportunities in addressing sensitive topics like abuse and trauma Jean's current projects and future plans for her writing Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction to Jean Trounstine and her work in prison theatre 02:06 - How literature and theatre started shaping her activism 04:22 - The unique setting of Framingham Women's Prison and its history 05:50 - The decline in prison arts programs in the US 06:42 - Comparing approaches to prison arts in England and the US 08:33 - Plans to bring Shakespeare to women in prison 10:02 - The importance of exposing prisoners to classical texts 12:03 - Jean's pioneering work directing Shakespeare in prison worldwide 13:46 - Her journey from memoir to fiction with her novel “Sounds Like Trouble to Me” 15:20 - True stories inspiring her novel 16:18 - The uprising at Dublin's federal prison and its influence on her work 17:39 - The development of her characters inspired by real women 19:26 - Building authenticity for prison-related details and legal accuracy 22:03 - The storytelling process and discovering the narrative organically 24:14 - The message of hope and resilience in her book, “Sounds Like Trouble to Me” 25:52 - Addressing abuse, trauma, and societal myths about women in prison 29:49 - The impact of her work on understanding and rethinking incarceration 33:07 - The significance of the Me Too movement in her narratives 37:42 - The importance of friendship and solidarity among women in prison 40:54 - Personal stories that highlight vulnerability and connection 43:56 - The influence of risk-taking and building trust through theatre 48:48 - The “Changing Life Through Literature” program and its success 54:22 - Upcoming projects and the future of Jean's writing and activism

Join Dr Naomi Murphy and David Jones as they delve into the transformative power of literature within the criminal justice system, through the inspiring insights of Jean Trounstine. An author, activist, and educator, Jean shares her decades of work supporting incarcerated women, the arts behind bars, and her journey creating impactful stories that challenge perceptions of justice and rehabilitation. Her first novel, 'Sounds like trouble to me' is released on 12th May. In this episode, we cover: Jean's personal journey into prison education and theatre The role of arts and literature in fostering rehabilitation Differences between the US and England in prison programming The impact of classic literature, including Shakespeare, behind bars The significance of the Me Too movement in prison reform The process of researching and ensuring authenticity in her writing How storytelling can reveal the humanity of incarcerated women The community and bonds formed among women in prison Challenges and opportunities in addressing sensitive topics like abuse and trauma Jean's current projects and future plans for her writing Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction to Jean Trounstine and her work in prison theatre 02:06 - How literature and theatre started shaping her activism 04:22 - The unique setting of Framingham Women's Prison and its history 05:50 - The decline in prison arts programs in the US 06:42 - Comparing approaches to prison arts in England and the US 08:33 - Plans to bring Shakespeare to women in prison 10:02 - The importance of exposing prisoners to classical texts 12:03 - Jean's pioneering work directing Shakespeare in prison worldwide 13:46 - Her journey from memoir to fiction with her novel “Sounds Like Trouble to Me” 15:20 - True stories inspiring her novel 16:18 - The uprising at Dublin's federal prison and its influence on her work 17:39 - The development of her characters inspired by real women 19:26 - Building authenticity for prison-related details and legal accuracy 22:03 - The storytelling process and discovering the narrative organically 24:14 - The message of hope and resilience in her book, “Sounds Like Trouble to Me” 25:52 - Addressing abuse, trauma, and societal myths about women in prison 29:49 - The impact of her work on understanding and rethinking incarceration 33:07 - The significance of the Me Too movement in her narratives 37:42 - The importance of friendship and solidarity among women in prison 40:54 - Personal stories that highlight vulnerability and connection 43:56 - The influence of risk-taking and building trust through theatre 48:48 - The “Changing Life Through Literature” program and its success 54:22 - Upcoming projects and the future of Jean's writing and activism

Barbara Rawlings is a retired sociologist originally gaining her PhD in 1980 from Manchester University with an ethnography of a therapeutic community.  She has specialised in qualitive research in a variety of public sector settings and particularly in therapeutic communities.  These have been in both community and forensic settings, and have been both democratic therapeutic communities and the more hierarchical TCs which  work with drug addiction.  She is a co-opted member of CSAAP (Correctional Services Acccreditation and Advice Panel) and most recently has worked on research into the Living Learning Experience (LLE) which is an international training programme for therapeutic community staff.  summary This interview with Barbara Rawlings explores the world of therapeutic communities, contrasting hierarchical and democratic models, their histories, and their impact on treatment outcomes. Discover insights into staff roles, community dynamics, and the importance of environment in recovery.  keywords therapeutic communities, hierarchical vs democratic, addiction treatment, mental health, prison rehabilitation, community therapy, personality disorders, recovery models  key  topics Differences between hierarchical and democratic therapeutic communities History and origins of therapeutic communities in addiction and psychiatry Role of staff and residents in community dynamics Impact of environment and social time on recovery Challenges and successes in prison therapeutic communities  sound bites "In democratic communities, everyone is almost an equal." "Enabling environments reflect real community life." "Mirroring behavior helps understand and change actions." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Therapeutic Communities 03:16 Understanding Hierarchical vs. Democratic Therapeutic Communities 06:40 The Role of Staff in Therapeutic Communities 10:23 Length of Stay and Treatment Duration 13:54 Research Insights on Therapeutic Communities 18:37 Defining Success in Therapeutic Communities 29:52 The Importance of Aftercare in Reintegration 32:48 Evolution of Therapeutic Communities 34:30 Active Ingredients of Democratic Therapeutic Communities 36:19 Understanding Offence Paralleling Behavior 39:58 Creating a Reflective Environment in Prisons 43:24 Accreditation and Program Integrity in Therapeutic Communities 49:35 The Role of Community and Fun in Therapeutic Settings 52:50 Ten second outro video.mp4

  Barbara Rawlings is a retired sociologist originally gaining her PhD in 1980 from Manchester University with an ethnography of a therapeutic community.  She has specialised in qualitive research in a variety of public sector settings and particularly in therapeutic communities.  These have been in both community and forensic settings, and have been both democratic therapeutic communities and the more hierarchical TCs which  work with drug addiction.  She is a co-opted member of CSAAP (Correctional Services Acccreditation and Advice Panel) and most recently has worked on research into the Living Learning Experience (LLE) which is an international training programme for therapeutic community staff.  summary This interview with Barbara Rawlings explores the world of therapeutic communities, contrasting hierarchical and democratic models, their histories, and their impact on treatment outcomes. Discover insights into staff roles, community dynamics, and the importance of environment in recovery.  keywords therapeutic communities, hierarchical vs democratic, addiction treatment, mental health, prison rehabilitation, community therapy, personality disorders, recovery models  key  topics Differences between hierarchical and democratic therapeutic communities History and origins of therapeutic communities in addiction and psychiatry Role of staff and residents in community dynamics Impact of environment and social time on recovery Challenges and successes in prison therapeutic communities  sound bites "In democratic communities, everyone is almost an equal." "Enabling environments reflect real community life." "Mirroring behavior helps understand and change actions." Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Therapeutic Communities 03:16 Understanding Hierarchical vs. Democratic Therapeutic Communities 06:40 The Role of Staff in Therapeutic Communities 10:23 Length of Stay and Treatment Duration 13:54 Research Insights on Therapeutic Communities 18:37 Defining Success in Therapeutic Communities 29:52 The Importance of Aftercare in Reintegration 32:48 Evolution of Therapeutic Communities 34:30 Active Ingredients of Democratic Therapeutic Communities 36:19 Understanding Offence Paralleling Behavior 39:58 Creating a Reflective Environment in Prisons 43:24 Accreditation and Program Integrity in Therapeutic Communities 49:35 The Role of Community and Fun in Therapeutic Settings 52:50 Ten second outro video.mp4  

In this episode Naomi and David explore with Sophie and Nujoji the nuanced experiences of women in prison who are convicted of murder, through the lens of therapeutic community research. We delve into the processes of change, identity reconstruction, and the significance of relational work in high-security settings. In this episode: The motivations behind working in women's prisons and the therapeutic community at HMP Send Unique challenges faced by women convicted of murder and how their identities are shaped by societal labels The importance of being nimble and relational in unpredictable prison environments The role and impact of labels such as "murderer" on personal identity and social perceptions Methodological insights: Why interpretive phenomenological analysis (IPA) was chosen for this research Key themes: honesty, discomfort, turbulence, and their roles in psychological growth The significance of belonging, love, and trust in healing and change processes Staff strategies for supporting women through turbulence and maintaining professionalism amidst emotional challenges Addressing racial biases and the importance of reflexivity within prison-based services How staff self-care and team cohesion foster a therapeutic milieu under complex circumstances Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction to research on women in therapeutic prison communities 02:02 - Nujoji and Sophie's backgrounds and motivations 06:23 - Distinctiveness of the women's therapeutic community and research importance 09:11 - Why interpretive phenomenological analysis was chosen 10:36 - Participants' experiences of being labeled as "murderers" 13:42 - The cycle of labels, fear, and identity 16:00 - Society's role in condemning and the potential for change 20:08 - Constructing the idea of being loved in a prison context 23:22 - Moments of insight and change in therapeutic groups 28:19 - The dynamics of group work and the impact of honesty and discomfort 33:07 - Supporting women in tolerating turbulence and emotional regulation 37:17 - The importance of boundaries and team dynamics in group settings 44:10 - How large community groups help realign therapeutic processes 48:50 - Addressing racial undertones and service reflection 54:18 - The unique position of male staff working with women in prison 58:36 - The relational nature of identity, difference, and race in therapy 60:26 - Protecting staff well-being in emotionally charged environments 64:24 - Concluding thoughts on memory, self-recrimination, and ongoing growth   This episode offers deep reflections on the complexity of prison-based therapeutic work, crucial for practitioners, policymakers, and anyone interested in the transformative potential within high-security environments.

In this episode Naomi and David explore with Sophie and Nujoji the nuanced experiences of women in prison who are convicted of murder, through the lens of therapeutic community research. We delve into the processes of change, identity reconstruction, and the significance of relational work in high-security settings. In this episode: The motivations behind working in women's prisons and the therapeutic community at HMP Send Unique challenges faced by women convicted of murder and how their identities are shaped by societal labels The importance of being nimble and relational in unpredictable prison environments The role and impact of labels such as "murderer" on personal identity and social perceptions Methodological insights: Why interpretive phenomenological analysis (IPA) was chosen for this research Key themes: honesty, discomfort, turbulence, and their roles in psychological growth The significance of belonging, love, and trust in healing and change processes Staff strategies for supporting women through turbulence and maintaining professionalism amidst emotional challenges Addressing racial biases and the importance of reflexivity within prison-based services How staff self-care and team cohesion foster a therapeutic milieu under complex circumstances Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction to research on women in therapeutic prison communities 02:02 - Nujoji and Sophie's backgrounds and motivations 06:23 - Distinctiveness of the women's therapeutic community and research importance 09:11 - Why interpretive phenomenological analysis was chosen 10:36 - Participants' experiences of being labeled as "murderers" 13:42 - The cycle of labels, fear, and identity 16:00 - Society's role in condemning and the potential for change 20:08 - Constructing the idea of being loved in a prison context 23:22 - Moments of insight and change in therapeutic groups 28:19 - The dynamics of group work and the impact of honesty and discomfort 33:07 - Supporting women in tolerating turbulence and emotional regulation 37:17 - The importance of boundaries and team dynamics in group settings 44:10 - How large community groups help realign therapeutic processes 48:50 - Addressing racial undertones and service reflection 54:18 - The unique position of male staff working with women in prison 58:36 - The relational nature of identity, difference, and race in therapy 60:26 - Protecting staff well-being in emotionally charged environments 64:24 - Concluding thoughts on memory, self-recrimination, and ongoing growth   This episode offers deep reflections on the complexity of prison-based therapeutic work, crucial for practitioners, policymakers, and anyone interested in the transformative potential within high-security environments.

Therapeutic Community Elders & the PETT Archive (Planned Environment Therapy Trust) Episode summary: In this conversation, David Jones and Naomi Murphy are joined by Tom Harrison, Sarah Paget, Vicky Gavin, and David Kennard.. Together they explore what the Therapeutic Community (TC) Elders are, why their monthly open forums matter, and what it means for the field that the PETT archive at Toddington is closing. The group reflects on sustaining therapeutic community ideas, making knowledge accessible through a “living archive” (including Vicky's A–Z artwork concept), and how people can get involved. Guests Tom Harrison – Psychiatrist (worked in a therapeutic community in the 1970s); historian of therapeutic communities. Sarah Paget – Director at the Mulberry Bush; supports and coordinates the TC Elders and related activity. Vicky (Victoria) – Formerly worked at The Retreat (Acorn programme) and managed the therapeutic community at HMP Send; also an artist developing an A–Z “living archive” concept. David Kennard – Clinical psychologist; long-standing contributor to the therapeutic community field (including writing/editing roles) and TC Elders participant. In this episode Where the idea of the TC Elders came from and what the group is for. Why the monthly Zoom Open Forums have become a key way of staying connected across countries and services. How the Elders aim to hold a space for thinking, including “negative capability” (the capacity to sit with not knowing). Who the Open Forums are for (not only people in formal therapeutic communities), and what people get from attending. The story and purpose of the PETT archive—and what is being lost (and potentially preserved) as it closes. A “living archive” approach: Vicky's A–Z artwork as a way to invite memories, reflections, and contributions from the wider community. Chapters / timestamps (Times approx.) 01:03 – Welcome and what the conversation will cover (TC Elders and the PETT archive). 01:29 – Introductions: Tom Harrison, Sarah Paget, Vicky (Victoria), David Kennard, Dr Naomi Murphy. 03:51 – What are the Therapeutic Community Elders and why were they formed? 05:51 – The monthly Open Forums: connection, learning, and support across settings and countries. 10:03 – How to access the Open Forums; typical attendance and the “no fee” ethos. 15:26 – Who can be an Elder? How invitations work and why in-person meetings matter. 21:51 – Vicky's A–Z “living archive” artwork idea and how it could become open and collaborative. 28:38 – What is the PETT archive and what has it contained? 32:39 – Why the archive is closing (May 31) and the practical realities of maintaining it. 33:59 – Preserving therapeutic community ideas in a climate that often undervalues long-term, relational work. 40:04 – Closing reflections: why therapeutic community ideas are “common sense” and broader than TCs. Key takeaways The TC Elders are less about “giving answers” and more about holding a reflective space for practitioners and communities. The Open Forums function as a predictable monthly “anchor” that supports people doing relational work in challenging contexts. The PETT archive represents a major collective memory of therapeutic community practice; its closure highlights the real costs of preserving history. “Living archive” approaches (like the A–Z concept) may help capture stories, artefacts, and learning that don't always make it into formal publications. Resources / contact TC Elders contact : Sarah Paget – spaget@mulberrybush.org.uk Host organisation: The Mulberry Bush (hosts the TC Elders). Archive discussed: PETT archive (Planned Environment Therapy Trust archive) at Toddington (noted as closing May 31).

Therapeutic Community Elders & the PETT Archive (Planned Environment Therapy Trust) Episode summary: In this conversation, David Jones and Naomi Murphy are joined by Tom Harrison, Sarah Paget, Vicky Gavin, and David Kennard.. Together they explore what the Therapeutic Community (TC) Elders are, why their monthly open forums matter, and what it means for the field that the PETT archive at Toddington is closing. The group reflects on sustaining therapeutic community ideas, making knowledge accessible through a “living archive” (including Vicky's A–Z artwork concept), and how people can get involved. Guests Tom Harrison – Psychiatrist (worked in a therapeutic community in the 1970s); historian of therapeutic communities. Sarah Paget – Director at the Mulberry Bush; supports and coordinates the TC Elders and related activity. Vicky (Victoria) – Formerly worked at The Retreat (Acorn programme) and managed the therapeutic community at HMP Send; also an artist developing an A–Z “living archive” concept. David Kennard – Clinical psychologist; long-standing contributor to the therapeutic community field (including writing/editing roles) and TC Elders participant. In this episode Where the idea of the TC Elders came from and what the group is for. Why the monthly Zoom Open Forums have become a key way of staying connected across countries and services. How the Elders aim to hold a space for thinking, including “negative capability” (the capacity to sit with not knowing). Who the Open Forums are for (not only people in formal therapeutic communities), and what people get from attending. The story and purpose of the PETT archive—and what is being lost (and potentially preserved) as it closes. A “living archive” approach: Vicky's A–Z artwork as a way to invite memories, reflections, and contributions from the wider community. Chapters / timestamps (Times approx.) 01:03 – Welcome and what the conversation will cover (TC Elders and the PETT archive). 01:29 – Introductions: Tom Harrison, Sarah Paget, Vicky (Victoria), David Kennard, Dr Naomi Murphy. 03:51 – What are the Therapeutic Community Elders and why were they formed? 05:51 – The monthly Open Forums: connection, learning, and support across settings and countries. 10:03 – How to access the Open Forums; typical attendance and the “no fee” ethos. 15:26 – Who can be an Elder? How invitations work and why in-person meetings matter. 21:51 – Vicky's A–Z “living archive” artwork idea and how it could become open and collaborative. 28:38 – What is the PETT archive and what has it contained? 32:39 – Why the archive is closing (May 31) and the practical realities of maintaining it. 33:59 – Preserving therapeutic community ideas in a climate that often undervalues long-term, relational work. 40:04 – Closing reflections: why therapeutic community ideas are “common sense” and broader than TCs. Key takeaways The TC Elders are less about “giving answers” and more about holding a reflective space for practitioners and communities. The Open Forums function as a predictable monthly “anchor” that supports people doing relational work in challenging contexts. The PETT archive represents a major collective memory of therapeutic community practice; its closure highlights the real costs of preserving history. “Living archive” approaches (like the A–Z concept) may help capture stories, artefacts, and learning that don't always make it into formal publications. Resources / contact TC Elders contact : Sarah Paget – spaget@mulberrybush.org.uk Host organisation: The Mulberry Bush (hosts the TC Elders). Archive discussed: PETT archive (Planned Environment Therapy Trust archive) at Toddington (noted as closing May 31).

  Together with David Jones and Naomi Murphy Keith shares his harrowing experience of abuse at Grafton Close children's home, the systemic failures of institutions, and the ongoing fight for justice and accountability. This candid conversation sheds light on the dark realities of institutional abuse, survivor resilience, and the need for societal change. keywords child abuse, institutional failure, survivor stories, justice, accountability, systemic abuse, Grafton Close, child protection, trauma, activism key topics Systemic failure in child protection Survivor activism and advocacy Institutional cover-ups and accountability key frameworks Institutional Culture and Child Protection action items Survivors should seek support from trusted individuals and organizations. Institutions must be transparent and accountable for past abuses. Society needs to listen to survivor stories to drive systemic change. Advocate for stronger laws and policies to protect children and support survivors.   Sound Bites "Paedophiles are not just male, they can be female too." "Survivors have nothing to be ashamed of." "We need systemic change to protect children."  Chapters (Timings approx) 00:00 Unveiling Grafton Close: A Dark History 05:06 Personal Accounts of Abuse 11:00 The Role of Staff: Ignorance or Complicity? 16:50 Seeking Accountability from Richmond Council 25:57 The Quest for Truth: FOI Requests and Denials 27:20 The Struggle Against Institutional Barriers 28:42 Uncovering the Past: The Case of Philip Saunders 34:15 Seeking Acknowledgment: The Role of the Council 36:38 The Power of Speaking Out: Waiving Anonymity 39:30 The Need for Systemic Change: Addressing Institutional Failures 42:39 The Stagnation of Justice: Challenges with the Council 47:14 Reflections on the Independent Inquiry: Missed Opportunities 51:24 Coping with the Emotional Toll: The Burden of Advocacy 53:53  

Together with David Jones and Naomi Murphy Keith shares his harrowing experience of abuse at Grafton Close children's home, the systemic failures of institutions, and the ongoing fight for justice and accountability. This candid conversation sheds light on the dark realities of institutional abuse, survivor resilience, and the need for societal change. keywords child abuse, institutional failure, survivor stories, justice, accountability, systemic abuse, Grafton Close, child protection, trauma, activism key topics Systemic failure in child protection Survivor activism and advocacy Institutional cover-ups and accountability key frameworks Institutional Culture and Child Protection action items Survivors should seek support from trusted individuals and organizations. Institutions must be transparent and accountable for past abuses. Society needs to listen to survivor stories to drive systemic change. Advocate for stronger laws and policies to protect children and support survivors.   Sound Bites "Paedophiles are not just male, they can be female too." "Survivors have nothing to be ashamed of." "We need systemic change to protect children."  Chapters (Timings approx) 00:00 Unveiling Grafton Close: A Dark History 05:06 Personal Accounts of Abuse 11:00 The Role of Staff: Ignorance or Complicity? 16:50 Seeking Accountability from Richmond Council 25:57 The Quest for Truth: FOI Requests and Denials 27:20 The Struggle Against Institutional Barriers 28:42 Uncovering the Past: The Case of Philip Saunders 34:15 Seeking Acknowledgment: The Role of the Council 36:38 The Power of Speaking Out: Waiving Anonymity 39:30 The Need for Systemic Change: Addressing Institutional Failures 42:39 The Stagnation of Justice: Challenges with the Council 47:14 Reflections on the Independent Inquiry: Missed Opportunities 51:24 Coping with the Emotional Toll: The Burden of Advocacy 53:53  

Dr. Mariana Brussoni is Director of the Human Early Learning Partnership at the University of British Columbia, professor in the UBC Department of Pediatrics and School of Population and Public Health, Investigator at British Columbia Children's Hospital Research Institute and lead of the Outside Play Lab. Her award-winning research investigates children's outdoor and risky play, focusing on shifting parents' and educators' perceptions of risk, designing play-friendly environments, and changing systems to ensure children have the time, space and freedom to play outside every day. Mariana's new book, Embracing Risky Play at School, co-authored with Megan Zeni, provides simple, actionable strategies for teachers and schools.  Dr. Mariana Brussoni is Director of the Human Early Learning Partnership at the University of British Columbia, professor in the UBC Department of Pediatrics and School of Population and Public Health, Investigator at British Columbia Children's Hospital Research Institute and lead of the Outside Play Lab. Her award-winning research investigates children's outdoor and risky play, focusing on shifting parents' and educators' perceptions of risk, designing play-friendly environments, and changing systems to ensure children have the time, space and freedom to play outside every day. Mariana's new book, Embracing Risky Play at School, co-authored with Megan Zeni, provides simple, actionable strategies for teachers and schools.  https://blackwells.co.uk/bookshop/product/Embracing-Risky-Play-at-School-by-Megan-Zeni-Mariana-Brussoni/9780807783993?srsltid=AfmBOorD7mPo0kZ2_s2XXk8EVtwpTx24uOYOnp4TcWrWgPnyAsJydoL1  summary This conversation explores the importance of risky outdoor play for children's development, the societal shifts that have reduced play opportunities, and how rethinking our approach can benefit children's mental and physical health.  keywords risky play, childhood development, outdoor play, societal change, mental health, play safety, childhood devaluation  key  topics Definition and importance of risky play Evolutionary and developmental benefits of risky play Societal changes reducing outdoor play Impact of reduced play on mental health Strategies to promote safe risky play  sound bites "Children need micro doses of uncertainty to thrive" "Urbanization and screens have reduced outdoor play" "Society undervalues childhood and play" Chapters (timings approx) 00:00 The Importance of Play in Child Development 02:44 Defining Risky Play and Its Benefits 05:34 Gender Differences in Risky Play 07:51 The Evolutionary Need for Risky Play 10:33 The Impact of Overprotective Parenting 13:18 Societal Changes and Fear of Risky Play 16:07 Structured Activities vs. Free Play 18:39 Access to Play for Lower-Income Families 21:27 The Value of Play in Education 23:48 Reimagining Play in Schools 26:29 Addressing ADHD and Learning Challenges 29:17 The Role of Adults in Managing Play 31:44 Finding Joy and Fun in Play 34:40 Encouraging Adult Playfulness  resources Outdoor Play and Learning (OPAL) program - https://www.opalexplorenature.org/ Stuart Brown's work on play - https://www.amazon.com/Play-How-It-Makes-Us-Human/dp/031236553X Ellen Sandsetter's research on risky play - https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Ellen-Sandseter British Columbia's Children's Hospital - https://www.bcchildrens.ca/  guest links LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mariana-brussoni/

Dr. Mariana Brussoni is Director of the Human Early Learning Partnership at the University of British Columbia, professor in the UBC Department of Pediatrics and School of Population and Public Health, Investigator at British Columbia Children's Hospital Research Institute and lead of the Outside Play Lab. Her award-winning research investigates children's outdoor and risky play, focusing on shifting parents' and educators' perceptions of risk, designing play-friendly environments, and changing systems to ensure children have the time, space and freedom to play outside every day. Mariana's new book, Embracing Risky Play at School, co-authored with Megan Zeni, provides simple, actionable strategies for teachers and schools.  Dr. Mariana Brussoni is Director of the Human Early Learning Partnership at the University of British Columbia, professor in the UBC Department of Pediatrics and School of Population and Public Health, Investigator at British Columbia Children's Hospital Research Institute and lead of the Outside Play Lab. Her award-winning research investigates children's outdoor and risky play, focusing on shifting parents' and educators' perceptions of risk, designing play-friendly environments, and changing systems to ensure children have the time, space and freedom to play outside every day. Mariana's new book, Embracing Risky Play at School, co-authored with Megan Zeni, provides simple, actionable strategies for teachers and schools.  https://blackwells.co.uk/bookshop/product/Embracing-Risky-Play-at-School-by-Megan-Zeni-Mariana-Brussoni/9780807783993?srsltid=AfmBOorD7mPo0kZ2_s2XXk8EVtwpTx24uOYOnp4TcWrWgPnyAsJydoL1  summary This conversation explores the importance of risky outdoor play for children's development, the societal shifts that have reduced play opportunities, and how rethinking our approach can benefit children's mental and physical health.  keywords risky play, childhood development, outdoor play, societal change, mental health, play safety, childhood devaluation  key  topics Definition and importance of risky play Evolutionary and developmental benefits of risky play Societal changes reducing outdoor play Impact of reduced play on mental health Strategies to promote safe risky play  sound bites "Children need micro doses of uncertainty to thrive" "Urbanization and screens have reduced outdoor play" "Society undervalues childhood and play" Chapters (timings approx) 00:00 The Importance of Play in Child Development 02:44 Defining Risky Play and Its Benefits 05:34 Gender Differences in Risky Play 07:51 The Evolutionary Need for Risky Play 10:33 The Impact of Overprotective Parenting 13:18 Societal Changes and Fear of Risky Play 16:07 Structured Activities vs. Free Play 18:39 Access to Play for Lower-Income Families 21:27 The Value of Play in Education 23:48 Reimagining Play in Schools 26:29 Addressing ADHD and Learning Challenges 29:17 The Role of Adults in Managing Play 31:44 Finding Joy and Fun in Play 34:40 Encouraging Adult Playfulness  resources Outdoor Play and Learning (OPAL) program - https://www.opalexplorenature.org/ Stuart Brown's work on play - https://www.amazon.com/Play-How-It-Makes-Us-Human/dp/031236553X Ellen Sandsetter's research on risky play - https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Ellen-Sandseter British Columbia's Children's Hospital - https://www.bcchildrens.ca/  guest links LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mariana-brussoni/  

Tom Harrison, a social psychiatrist and author, shares insights from his extensive work on therapeutic communities (TCs), focusing on the history and significance of the now-closed Ingrebourne Centre. Discover how these settings foster healing through social connection, leadership, and community, and their lessons for modern mental health services. Key Topics The history and importance of the Ingrebourne Centre within UK therapeutic communities Core features of therapeutic communities: open communication, safety, and trust Hierarchy challenges in mental health services and the potential for flatter, more collaborative models The social and sociological aspects of TCs, including belonging and mutual aid The role of communal activities like group meetings, psychotherapy, and creative groups Transitional emotional space and the imaginative concept of "Imagined Ingrebourne" Leadership styles in TCs: rebellious pioneers, considered leaders, and authoritarian tendencies The permeable nature of therapeutic communities and boundaries with the outside world Lessons for contemporary NHS and mental health services: community meetings, staff presence, and patient involvement The importance of staff valuing and engaging actively in group activities to foster trust and safety Timestamps (Approx) 00:00 - Introduction to Tom Harrison's background in NHS and therapeutic communities 02:57 - Explanation of therapeutic community features and their importance 04:50 - Impact of hierarchical structures and authority on therapeutic relationships 09:14 - Leadership styles of pioneers and modern NHS parallels 11:23 - The blurred line between staff and patients in TCs and its significance 13:48 - The metaphor of family and belonging in therapeutic recovery 16:11 - How early trauma and childhood wounds can be healed in community settings 17:25 - Types of groups in TCs: community meetings, psychotherapy, recreational activities 20:12 - The "here and now" focus in group interventions and emotional work 23:39 - Spontaneous and creative groups like art therapy and their value 25:58 - Staff reflections, group dynamics, and the role of leadership during crises 28:07 - Harold Bridger's concept of transitional and imagined spaces 30:24 - Boundaries and permeability of the Ingrebourne Centre and other TCs 32:39 - The ongoing life and influence of therapeutic communities after closure 33:37 - The power of mutual aid among patients and peer support's significance 36:19 - Social dynamics, group behavior, and the importance of leadership in TCs 38:10 - Staff engagement in groups and establishing a culture of respect and safety 39:50 - The role of staff bound by care, presence, and boundary-setting 42:34 - The importance of kitchen and communal activities in fostering trust 46:53 - Tensions between psychoanalytic approaches and social methods in the history of TCs 49:15 - Lessons for modern mental health services: community meetings, patient involvement, spontaneous support networks 52:29 - Wrap-up and appreciation for Tom Harrison's insights and ongoing research Resources Richard Crockett — founder of the Ingrebourne Centre, Craig Fees —PETT archive Hamish Henderson — junior doctor influencing early TC practice Maxwell Jones —Henderson Hospital, Dingleton and TCs Tom Main —hierarchy and TC theory, Cassel Hospital Alex Renton — referenced indirectly in discussion of hierarchy and rebellion and in relation to public schools Bertram Mandelbrote — Consultant psychiatrist, Phoenix Unit in Oxford David Clarke — identified as a thoughtful TC leader Cambridge. Andy Roberts — former patient, Kurt Lewin —group dynamics John Rickman — psychoanalyst Wilfred Bion — referenced in relation to Northfield and group theory psychoanalyst Harold Bridger — major figure re transitional space, psychiatrist Jacob Moreno psychodrama Lawrence Bradwick art therapy (≈24:30) [Document | Word] Donald Winnicott — psychoanalyst, transitional space Frederich Nietzsche — philosopher Closing Remarks This episode offers valuable lessons from the history and practice of therapeutic communities, emphasizing the social and relational aspects central to healing. Whether you're a mental health professional, a researcher, or interested listener, Tom's insights inspire a rethinking of how care environments can promote trust, safety, and genuine connection.

Tom Harrison, a social psychiatrist and author, shares insights from his extensive work on therapeutic communities (TCs), focusing on the history and significance of the now-closed Ingrebourne Centre. Discover how these settings foster healing through social connection, leadership, and community, and their lessons for modern mental health services. Key Topics The history and importance of the Ingrebourne Centre within UK therapeutic communities Core features of therapeutic communities: open communication, safety, and trust Hierarchy challenges in mental health services and the potential for flatter, more collaborative models The social and sociological aspects of TCs, including belonging and mutual aid The role of communal activities like group meetings, psychotherapy, and creative groups Transitional emotional space and the imaginative concept of "Imagined Ingrebourne" Leadership styles in TCs: rebellious pioneers, considered leaders, and authoritarian tendencies The permeable nature of therapeutic communities and boundaries with the outside world Lessons for contemporary NHS and mental health services: community meetings, staff presence, and patient involvement The importance of staff valuing and engaging actively in group activities to foster trust and safety Timestamps (Approx) 00:00 - Introduction to Tom Harrison's background in NHS and therapeutic communities 02:57 - Explanation of therapeutic community features and their importance 04:50 - Impact of hierarchical structures and authority on therapeutic relationships 09:14 - Leadership styles of pioneers and modern NHS parallels 11:23 - The blurred line between staff and patients in TCs and its significance 13:48 - The metaphor of family and belonging in therapeutic recovery 16:11 - How early trauma and childhood wounds can be healed in community settings 17:25 - Types of groups in TCs: community meetings, psychotherapy, recreational activities 20:12 - The "here and now" focus in group interventions and emotional work 23:39 - Spontaneous and creative groups like art therapy and their value 25:58 - Staff reflections, group dynamics, and the role of leadership during crises 28:07 - Harold Bridger's concept of transitional and imagined spaces 30:24 - Boundaries and permeability of the Ingrebourne Centre and other TCs 32:39 - The ongoing life and influence of therapeutic communities after closure 33:37 - The power of mutual aid among patients and peer support's significance 36:19 - Social dynamics, group behavior, and the importance of leadership in TCs 38:10 - Staff engagement in groups and establishing a culture of respect and safety 39:50 - The role of staff bound by care, presence, and boundary-setting 42:34 - The importance of kitchen and communal activities in fostering trust 46:53 - Tensions between psychoanalytic approaches and social methods in the history of TCs 49:15 - Lessons for modern mental health services: community meetings, patient involvement, spontaneous support networks 52:29 - Wrap-up and appreciation for Tom Harrison's insights and ongoing research Resources Richard Crockett — founder of the Ingrebourne Centre, Craig Fees —PETT archive Hamish Henderson — junior doctor influencing early TC practice Maxwell Jones —Henderson Hospital, Dingleton and TCs Tom Main —hierarchy and TC theory, Cassel Hospital Alex Renton — referenced indirectly in discussion of hierarchy and rebellion and in relation to public schools Bertram Mandelbrote — Consultant psychiatrist, Phoenix Unit in Oxford David Clarke — identified as a thoughtful TC leader Cambridge. Andy Roberts — former patient, Kurt Lewin —group dynamics John Rickman — psychoanalyst Wilfred Bion — referenced in relation to Northfield and group theory psychoanalyst Harold Bridger — major figure re transitional space, psychiatrist Jacob Moreno psychodrama Lawrence Bradwick art therapy (≈24:30) [Document | Word] Donald Winnicott — psychoanalyst, transitional space Frederich Nietzsche — philosopher Closing Remarks This episode offers valuable lessons from the history and practice of therapeutic communities, emphasizing the social and relational aspects central to healing. Whether you're a mental health professional, a researcher, or interested listener, Tom's insights inspire a rethinking of how care environments can promote trust, safety, and genuine connection.

keywords child abuse, whistleblower, child protection, exploitation, Voice for the Voiceless, systemic issues, care homes, ritual abuse, societal implications, justice  takeaways Jon Wedger is a retired police detective and whistleblower. He specialized in child abuse investigations, focusing on children from care homes. Jon's investigations revealed systemic issues in child protection. He faced significant pushback from the police for his findings. The care system often fails to protect vulnerable children from exploitation. Jon founded Voice for the Voiceless to give a platform to abuse survivors. He has encountered numerous cases of ritual abuse during his work. Child abuse is a pervasive issue that transcends social classes. Jon emphasizes the need for a dedicated focus on child protection in policing. His personal journey has been marked by trauma and resilience.  summary In this conversation Naomi Murphy and David Jones meet Jon Wedger, a retired police detective and whistleblower. He shares his harrowing experiences investigating child abuse within the care system, the systemic failures in child protection, the challenges he faced as a whistleblower, and the formation of his campaign, Voice for the Voiceless. Jon highlights the prevalence of exploitation and ritual abuse, emphasizing the need for societal change and a dedicated focus on child protection. His personal journey is marked by trauma, resilience, and a commitment to giving a voice to the voiceless. https://jonwedger.org/blogs/b/give-a-voice-to-the-voiceless  sound bites ""I was told to shut up about my findings."" ""Child abuse is a rotting society."" ""Child abuse knows no boundaries.""   Chapters (Timings approx.) 00:00 The Voice for the Voiceless: Introduction to Jon Wedger 05:26 The System's Failures: Cover-Ups and Consequences 13:13 The Fight Against Institutional Abuse: A Personal Account 19:57 Voice for the Voiceless: Raising Awareness and Advocacy 27:18 The Intersection of Power, Abuse, and Society 36:26 The Disparity in Justice 47:14 The Impact of Advocacy on Identity