ChurchPulse Weekly

David Kinnaman and Carey Nieuwhof share insights and ideas about the future of the Church and some exciting news about what's next for the podcast. Stay tuned for more to come in the new year!   - Follow Barna at: Instagram: @barnagroup Twitter: @davidkinnaman | @barnagroup Facebook: Barna Group Youtube: Barna Group   Relevant Links: Barna Access Plus Gloo: Find out more about the He Gets Us initiative at hegetsuspartners.com/churches

David Kinnaman and Carey Nieuwhof sit down in-person and look back on starting ChurchPulse Weekly in March 2020, what they have learned from leaders through the years of the pandemic and the trends they have seen in the research. Part 1 of 2. - Follow Barna at: Instagram: @barnagroup Twitter: @davidkinnaman | @barnagroup Facebook: Barna Group Youtube: Barna Group   Relevant Links: Barna Access Plus Gloo: Find out more about the He Gets Us initiative at hegetsuspartners.com/churches.

Our guest is Matt Tresidder, co-founder and CEO of Leadr, a tech startup providing software for people development. Matt also spent several years as the VP of Sales at Pushpay and has insights on both the startup world as well as the tech space. We discuss the challenge of leading a startup, why developing your people matters, lessons from his leadership journey and more. Plus, check out the list of 7 Podcasts. Make sure to visit http://h3leadership.com to access the list and all the show notes. Thanks again to our partners for this episode: Operation Christmas Child—join in on the Shoebox Campaign this fall at http://samaritanspurse.org/occ. Be a part of sending the Gospel around the world by packing a shoebox Christmas gift! Millions of boys and girls around the world will be impacted and invited into the Greatest Journey discipleship course. Find everything you need to get started by visiting http://samaritanspurse.org/occ. And Harper Leadership—check out the new book Charging Ahead at http://chargingaheadbook.com. The story of how Mary Barra, one of the most influential female executives in the world, is revolutionizing General Motors, one of the most iconic companies in the history of the US. Learn more about her forward-thinking vision and approach to leadership with your copy of Charging Ahead, available now at all major book retailers. Visit http://chargingaheadbook.com to learn more and purchase.

Stephen Chandler (senior pastor of Union Church) sits down with Carey Nieuwhof to talk about how he responds to pushback as a leader, finding rest amidst the busyness of ministry and redefining success within your church.   -   Barna's Resilient Pastor Cohort: Sign up at Barna.com/pastorcohort, and use the code CPW15 for a listener discount!   Follow Barna at: Instagram: @barnagroup Twitter: @davidkinnaman | @barnagroup Facebook: Barna Group Youtube: Barna Group   Relevant Links: Barna Access Plus The Union Church Connect with Stephen at stephenrchandler.com Stop Waiting for Permission by Stephen Chandler

Lisa Bevere (speaker and author) joins Carey Nieuwhof to talk about what has changed in discipleship over the past five years, how to activate the contributions of women in your church and learning the balance for younger generations between deconstructing and destroying.    -   Barna's Resilient Pastor Cohort: Sign up at Barna.com/pastorcohort, and use the code CPW15 for a listener discount!   Follow Barna at: Instagram: @barnagroup Twitter: @davidkinnaman | @barnagroup Facebook: Barna Group Youtube: Barna Group   Relevant Links: Barna Access Plus Barna's Resilient Pastor Initiative Fiercely Loved: Discover God's Wild Thoughts About You

Bryan Loritts (president of the Kainos Movement) sits down with David Kinnaman to discuss fatherhood and Juneteenth. Together they talk about the challenges fathers are facing, the role of mentors in the lives of fathers and the ongoing journey within the church towards racial equity.    -   Barna's Resilient Pastor Cohort: Sign up at Barna.com/pastorcohort, and use the code CPW15 for a listener discount!   If you have any additional ChurchPulse Weekly feedback or thoughts for our team, send an email to carey@carenieuwhof.com with the subject “CPW Feedback.”   Follow Barna at: Instagram: @barnagroup Twitter: @davidkinnaman | @barnagroup Facebook: Barna Group Youtube: Barna Group   Relevant Links: Barna Access Plus The Dad Difference by Bryan Loritts The Intentional Father by Jon Tyson

Grant Skeldon and Luke LeFevre join Barna VP of Church Engagement, Joe Jensen, to talk about next generation discipleship, the differences between Millennials and Gen Z and the key questions younger generations are asking.   –   Follow Barna at: Instagram: @barnagroup Twitter: @davidkinnaman | @barnagroup Facebook: Barna Group Youtube: Barna Group   Relevant Links: Sign up for Barna Access Plus (use promo code CHURCHPULSE for discount on annual subscription) Connect with Grant Learn about Q Ideas Connect with Luke Learn about Consecrate 2022

John Eldredge sits down with David Kinnaman to reflect on how to address loneliness and isolation after the pandemic, building resilient friendships and listening for the voice of God.   –   Follow Barna at: Instagram: @barnagroup Twitter: @davidkinnaman | @barnagroup Facebook: Barna Group Youtube: Barna Group   Relevant Links: Barna's Resilient Pastor Initiative Wild at Heart Resilient: Restoring Your Weary Soul in These Turbulent Times by John Eldredge

Pete Greig meets with David Kinnaman to talk about growing a culture of prayer in your church. Together, they discuss how to hear God's voice, rediscovering the practice of lectio divina and practical tips for leading a great prayer meeting over Zoom.    –   Follow Barna at: Instagram: @barnagroup Twitter: @davidkinnaman | @barnagroup Facebook: Barna Group Youtube: Barna Group   Relevant Links Pete Greig's website How to Hear God: A Simple Guide for Normal People by Pete Greig Lectio365 app

Aubrey Sampson (church planter and author) joins David Kinnaman to discuss the opportunities and obstacles she's seeing for discipleship, the role of friendship in hosting difficult conversations and encouraging the everyday disciplemakers in your church.   –   Follow Barna at: Instagram: @barnagroup Twitter: @davidkinnaman | @barnagroup Facebook: Barna Group Youtube: Barna Group Learn more about Aubrey Sampson's latest book, Known: How Believing Who God Says You Are Changes Everything.

Ed Stetzer (author, speaker, professor) sits down with Carey Nieuwhof to discuss shifting trends in church attendance throughout the pandemic, engaging your congregation in the church's mission and finding new ways to measure church success.   –   ChurchPulse Weekly Audience Survey: To access the survey and have the opportunity to win a Barna monograph, go to Barna.com/cpwsurvey!   Learn more about Barna's ChurchPulse assessment, available for free in Barna Access.   Follow Barna at: Instagram: @barnagroup Twitter: @davidkinnaman | @barnagroup Facebook: Barna Group Youtube: Barna Group

Dr. Thema Bryant (president-elect of the American Psychological Association) talks with Carey Nieuwhof about collective trauma and finding healing in the Church. She shares practical ways to recognize the signs of trauma in your congregants as well as advice for leaders as they walk their own journey towards healing.    –   ChurchPulse Weekly Audience Survey: To access the survey and have the opportunity to win a Barna monograph, go to Barna.com/cpwsurvey!   Follow Barna at: Instagram: @barnagroup Twitter: @davidkinnaman | @barnagroup Facebook: Barna Group Youtube: Barna Group Connect with Dr. Thema Bryant and get a copy of her latest book, Homecoming: Overcome Fear and Trauma to Reclaim Your Whole, Authentic Self.

Matt Markins (President and CEO of Awana) sits down with Carey Nieuwhof and David Kinnaman to talk about what's changed in children's ministry over the years, how to disciple kids towards a resilient faith and the role parents can play in their kid's spiritual growth.    –   Check out Awana's Child Discipleship Forum to learn more about the work they're doing.   Follow Barna at: Instagram: @barnagroup Twitter: @davidkinnaman | @barnagroup Facebook: Barna Group Youtube: Barna Group

Andy Stanley (senior pastor of North Point Ministries) sits down with Carey Nieuwhof to discuss pastoral burnout and political polarization in the Church. He shares new ways he's thinking about attendance during the pandemic, what he's learned from preaching to an empty room and why Christians have become more passionate about ideology over theology.   –   To watch other extended interviews with State of Your Church contributors and read the full report, go to Barna.com/Access and use the code CHURCHPULSE to receive 20% off an annual subscription.   Follow Barna at: Instagram: @barnagroup Twitter: @davidkinnaman | @barnagroup Facebook: Barna Group Youtube: Barna Group

Brad & Leah Leach (pastors at City Life Philly) talk with Carey Nieuwhof and David Kinnaman about celebrating the volunteers in your church. They discuss practical ideas for volunteer support and retention, as well as an element of fun as a way to honor the people who serve in your church.    –   Lyrics from the Onesies.    Follow Barna at: Instagram: @barnagroup Twitter: @davidkinnaman | @barnagroup Facebook: Barna Group Youtube: Barna Group

Albert Tate (Lead Pastor of Fellowship Church) joins Carey Nieuwhof and David Kinnaman to discuss how to engage in conversations on racial justice within the Church and the importance of extending unconditional empathy towards those with different perspectives.    –   Order a copy of Albert Tate's latest book How We Love Matters: A Call to Practice Relentless Racial Reconciliation wherever books are sold.   Follow Barna at: Instagram: @barnagroup Twitter: @davidkinnaman | @barnagroup Facebook: Barna Group Youtube: Barna Group

Andy Byrd (leader with University of the Nations, YWAM Kona) shares about the zeal he's seeing within Gen Z, how he's answering teenagers' questions around identity and what he's doing to empower and channel the passion of one of the most missionally-focused generations.   –   Want more Barna research on Gen Z & evangelism? Go to Barna.com/Access to access Barna's full library of resources, and use the promo code CHURCHPULSE to get 20% off an annual subscription today.   Learn more about the work Andy is doing at ywamkona.org and thesend.org.     Follow Barna at: Instagram: @barnagroup Twitter: @davidkinnaman | @barnagroup Facebook: Barna Group Youtube: Barna Group

Michael Phillips (education advocate and former pastor) shares with Carey Nieuwhof his reflections on the challenges Black pastors are facing, the importance of local churches in meeting community needs and why he believes empathy is the greatest tool for social justice.    –   Want more Barna research around similar topics? Go to Barna.com/Access to access Barna's full library of resources, and use the promo code CHURCHPULSE to get 20% off an annual subscription today.   Hear more from Michael:  Learn more about Phillip's latest book, Wrong Langes Have Right Turns, at PenguinRandomHouse.com.   Follow Barna at: Instagram: @barnagroup Twitter: @davidkinnaman | @barnagroup Facebook: Barna Group Youtube: Barna Group

Dr. Heather Thompson Day (speaker, writer and professor) joins Carey Nieuwhof to discuss how to use social media as a tool for hope and encouragement in a polarized world. She shares some practical ideas for cutting through the noise online to have real influence as well as her personal rhythms around engagement.   –   Hear more from Heather:  Check out her latest book (It's Not Your Turn) and tune into her podcast, Viral Jesus.   Want more data & resources from Barna? Sign up for Barna Access Plus at Barna.com/Access.   Follow Barna at: Instagram: @barnagroup Twitter: @davidkinnaman | @barnagroup Facebook: Barna Group Youtube: Barna Group

Patrick Lencioni (author and founder of The Table Group) talks with Carey Nieuwhof and David Kinnaman about building a healthy team culture and how churches can better engage and retain their volunteers.   – What is Your Working Genius? Discover Your God-given Talents By Taking The Six Types of Working Genius Assessment. Go to www.workinggenius.com and enter promo code ChurchPulse to receive 20% off.   Follow Barna at: Instagram: @barnagroup Twitter: @davidkinnaman | @barnagroup Facebook: Barna Group Youtube: Barna Group

Bob Goff sits down with Carey Nieuwhof and David Kinnaman to talk about finding new, hope-filled perspectives for the Church, what he's learned from mediating conflict and how pastors can focus their time and attention on what matters most.    Pick up a copy of Bob's book, Undistracted: Capture Your Purpose. Rediscover Your Joy; available today wherever books are sold!   –   Follow Barna at: Instagram: @barnagroup Twitter: @davidkinnaman | @barnagroup Facebook: Barna Group Youtube: Barna Group

Tyler Staton (Lead Pastor of Bridgetown Church) joins Carey Nieuwhof to talk about his own leadership transition, cultivating prayer rhythms that sustain through the pandemic and finding spiritual renewal amidst fatigue.   -   BELAY: Text the word PULSE to 55123 for BELAY's free resource download, ‘5 Ways A Church Bookkeeper Can Transform Your Day.'   State of Your Church: Barna's State of Your Church webcast will give you new data-informed insights into how people are growing in their faith and will equip you with powerful tools to help you measure what matters in your own church ministries. This free 90-minute webcast is airing on Tuesday, March 1st at 1:00pm ET, hosted by Carey Nieuwhof, Nona Jones and David Kinnaman. To sign up today, go to Barna.com/stateofyourchurch.   Follow Barna at: Instagram: @barnagroup Twitter: @davidkinnaman | @barnagroup Facebook: Barna Group Youtube: Barna Group

Glenn Packiam (pastor at New Life Church, Barna fellow) sits down with David Kinnaman and Carey Nieuwhof to discuss how to cultivate resilience in your leadership and the five types of relationships every pastor needs.   –   Go to Barna.com/ResilientPastor to learn more about The Resilient Pastor book and listen to the new podcast hosted by Glenn Packiam.   Watch this episode on Youtube: Barna Group   Follow Barna at: Instagram: @barnagroup Twitter: @davidkinnaman | @barnagroup Facebook: Barna Group

Sandra Van Opstal (pastor, author and activist) joins David Kinnaman to talk about the transformative power of the Enneagram, why self-reflection is essential for every leader's development journey and how the Church can move beyond relief work into pursuing justice.    –   State of Your Church: Barna's State of Your Church webcast will give you new data-informed insights into how people are growing in their faith and will equip you with powerful tools to help you measure what matters in your own church ministries. This free 90-minute webcast is airing on Tuesday, March 1st at 1:00pm ET, hosted by Carey Nieuwhof, Nona Jones and David Kinnaman. To sign up today, go to Barna.com/stateofyourchurch.   Watch this episode on YouTube: Barna Group   Follow Barna at: Instagram: @barnagroup Twitter: @davidkinnaman | @barnagroup Facebook: Barna Group

Levi Lusko (Pastor of Fresh Life Church) joins Carey Nieuwhof to talk about reaching the next generation, the power of physically gathering and what he's learning about church attendance through the pandemic.   –   State of Your Church: Barna's State of Your Church webcast will give you new data-informed insights into how people are growing in their faith and will equip you with powerful tools to help you measure what matters in your own church ministries. This free 90-minute webcast is airing on Tuesday, March 1st at 1:00pm ET, hosted by Carey Nieuwhof, Nona Jones and David Kinnaman. To sign up today, go to Barna.com/stateofyourchurch.   MVMNT Conference: To learn more about Fresh Life Church's MVMNT Conference, go to mvmnt2022.com.    Watch this episode on Youtube: Barna Group   Follow Barna at: Instagram: @barnagroup Twitter: @davidkinnaman | @barnagroup Facebook: Barna Group

098: Juliet Funt Globally-renowned keynote speaker and author, Juliet Funt, talks with Carey Nieuwhof about what pastors need to do to maximize productivity. Together, they unpack some of the root causes of burnout, the role of rest in fostering creative work and how to set boundaries with your congregation.   –   BELAY: Text the word PULSE to 55123 for BELAY's free resource download, ‘5 Ways A Church Bookkeeper Can Transform Your Day.'   State of Your Church: Barna's State of Your Church webcast will give you new data-informed insights into how people are growing in their faith and will equip you with powerful tools to help you measure what matters in your own church ministries. This free 90-minute webcast is airing on Tuesday, March 1st at 1:00pm ET, hosted by Carey Nieuwhof, Nona Jones and David Kinnaman. To sign up today, go to Barna.com/stateofyourchurch. Learn more about Juliet Funt's work at julietfunt.com.

Jenni Catron (Founder of the 4Sight Group) sits down with David Kinnaman to discuss why strategic leadership matters for the church, leadership lessons from The Great Commission and how to take a proactive approach with your vision in times of crisis.    – State of Your Church: This 2022 initiative kicks off with a free 90 minute webcast on Tuesday, March 1st at 1:00pm ET. Join Barna president David Kinnaman and hosts Carey Nieuwhof and Nona Jones by registering for free at Barna.com/stateofyourchurch

Ashlee Eiland (Co-lead Pastor of Mars Hill Bible Church in Grand Rapids, MI) joins Carey Nieuwhof this week to talk about shepherding a church through difficult leadership transitions, managing a team in the pandemic and setting healthy boundaries when doing ministry alongside a spouse.   – State of Your Church: This 2022 initiative kicks off with a free 90 minute webcast on Tuesday, March 1st at 1:00pm ET. Join Barna president David Kinnaman and hosts Carey Nieuwhof and Nona Jones by registering for free at Barna.com/stateofyourchurch.

To kick off the new year, Mark Batterson (Lead Pastor at National Community Church) joins David Kinnaman to talk about setting habits and goals that will last for the new year. He shares lessons he has learned from the past year, how he sees spiritual formation as a process of habit formation and what it looks like for leaders to incorporate rhythms of Sabbath into their own lives.   – State of Your Church: This 2022 initiative kicks off with a free 90 minute webcast on Tuesday, March 1st at 1:00pm ET. Join Barna president David Kinnaman and hosts Carey Nieuwhof and Nona Jones by registering for free at Barna.com/stateofyourchurch.

Dave Lomas (Pastor of Reality SF) talks with Carey Nieuwhof and David Kinnaman about the role of friendships in ministry, how preaching has changed over the past couple of years and the challenges of doing discipleship in a hybrid church model.   –   State of Your Church: This 2022 initiative kicks off with a free 90 minute webcast on Tuesday, March 1st at 1:00pm ET. Join Barna president David Kinnaman and hosts Carey Nieuwhof and Nona Jones by registering for free at Barna.com/stateofyourchurch. Medi-Share: Go to medishare.com/churchpulse to calculate your cost savings and see how much you could be saving on health insurance by switching to their services.

Worship leaders DK Kim (Mariner's Church) and Abby Burley (New Life Church) join Carey Nieuwhof and David Kinnaman to discuss Christmas worship services in a hybrid church era. They offer practical ideas for worship services for any church size and talk about the shifts they're seeing as worship moves online.   --   Text the word PULSE to 55123 for BELAY's free resource download, ‘5 Ways A Church Bookkeeper Can Transform Your Day.'   Go to medishare.com/churchpulse to calculate your cost savings and see how much you could be saving on health insurance by switching to their services.

Church planters, Amy Gannett & Justin Kendrick, sit down with Carey Nieuwhof and David Kinnaman to talk about why theology matters for the next generation, the limitations of program-centered church models and why leaders can never graduate from discipleship.   --   Go to medishare.com/churchpulse to calculate your cost savings and see how much you could be saving on health insurance by switching to their services. Check out Barna's PeoplePulse to learn more about how your congregants are flourishing today.

Keri Ladouceur and Katie Matsumoto Moore join Carey Nieuwhof and David Kinnaman to discuss practical ways to mobilize volunteers around causes in your community, redefining engagement beyond a church building and how your church can better serve your city as you head into the new year.   -- Go to medishare.com/churchpulse to calculate your cost savings and see how much you could be saving on health insurance by switching to their services.

Dr. Matthew D. Kim (author and professor at Gordon-Conwell) sits down with Carey Nieuwhof to talk about preaching to people in pain. Matthew shares about how he has dealt with grief and pain in his own life, ways to connect biblical narratives with the pain people are feeling and how to answer the difficult question of how a good God can allow suffering.   --   Learn more from Matthew Kim in his latest book, Preaching to People in Pain: How Suffering Can Shape Your Sermons and Connect with Your Congregation. Go to medishare.com/churchpulse to calculate your cost savings and see how much you could be saving on health insurance by switching to their services.

Rick Warren joins Carey Nieuwhof to discuss why he's focusing on missions in this next season of life, practical tips for preaching on missions and the vision behind his new initiative, Finishing the Task.    PLUS check out Barna's YouTube channel for the extended version of this interview with Pastor Rick.   --   Text the word PULSE to 55123 for BELAY's free resource download, ‘5 Ways A Church Bookkeeper Can Transform Your Day.'   Go to medishare.com/churchpulse to calculate your cost savings and see how much you could be saving on health insurance by switching to their services.

Carey Nieuwhof and David Kinnaman discuss a brand new statistic revealing that 38% of pastors have seriously considered quitting full time ministry in the last 12 months. Their conversation offers insights into why this finding matters and how to encourage them to persevere.

Aaron & Michelle Reyes sit down with Carey Nieuwhof to talk about making space for difficult conversations as church planters of a multiethnic church. Together, they discuss how they navigate racial and political differences within their congregation, what they have done to meet their community's needs and future innovations they dream about for their physical gathering space.    -- To get a FREE copy of Carey's new book, At Your Best, for Pastor Appreciation Month this October, visit Aspengroup.com/churchpulse today!

Ben Windle (Australian pastor, author and Barna contributor) and Jay Kim (author of Analog Church) sit down with Carey Nieuwhof to discuss making space for community in the digital era. They discuss what you can't get from doing church online, the importance of building “lingering spaces” into your church buildings and opportunities to reimagine digital discipleship.   -- To get a FREE copy of Carey's new book, At Your Best, for Pastor Appreciation Month this October, visit Aspengroup.com/churchpulse today!

Jo Saxton (author, speaker and entrepreneurial coach) joins Carey Nieuwhof to talk about making space for meaningful relationships in a digital age. She shares how the pandemic has shaped her personal relationships, the possibilities and limitations of digital discipleship and the unique impact the pandemic has had on women.   --   To get a FREE copy of Carey's new book, At Your Best, for Pastor Appreciation Month this October, visit Aspengroup.com/churchpulse today!

Skye Jethani (author, ordained minister and co-host of the Holy Post Podcast) and Rev. Kimberly Deckel (Anglican priest and executive pastor at Church of the Cross in Austin, TX) sit down with David Kinnaman to talk about the theology of physical space. Together, they offer ideas to make worship an embodied practice, find a liturgy that reflects the values of your gatherings and innovate new focal points in your church services.   -- To get a FREE copy of Carey's new book, At Your Best, for Pastor Appreciation Month this October, visit Aspengroup.com/churchpulse today!

Derwin Gray (Pastor of Transformation Church) joins Carey Nieuwhof to talk about making space for prayer. He shares how the Lord's Prayer, in particular, has radically reshaped how he thinks about intimacy with the Father and why he believes physical space is needed to connect us with a larger narrative.    --   To get a FREE copy of Carey's new book, At Your Best, for Pastor Appreciation Month this October, visit Aspengroup.com/churchpulse today! Derwin's new book, God, Do You Hear Me? can be found anywhere books are sold.

Carey Nieuwhof is in the guest seat today as David Kinnaman flips the mic on him to talk about making space for rest and healthy rhythms for leaders. Carey talks about designing physical spaces for productivity, managing your energy to avoid burnout and fostering relationships after years in ministry.    --   To get a FREE copy of Carey's new book, At Your Best, for Pastor Appreciation Month this October, visit Aspengroup.com/churchpulse today!

Jim Sheppard (Generis CEO) and Julie Bullock (Senior Generosity Strategist at Generis) join Carey Nieuwhof and David Kinnaman to talk about generosity. They explore common barriers to giving, the root struggles pastors face around money and how to disciple your church towards generosity.   --   Sign up for the Accelerating Generosity CoLab today at Barna.com/CoLab!   Text the word PULSE to 55123 for BELAY's free resource download, ‘5 Ways A Church Bookkeeper Can Transform Your Day.'

Rachel Cruze (national bestselling author and financial expert at Ramsey Solutions) sits down with Carey Nieuwhof and David Kinnaman to discuss financial flourishing. Together, they talk about mistakes every generation makes around debt, practical ways for leaders to speak with Gen Z and Millennials about giving and how pastors can deal with financial pressures in their own lives.    --   Sign up for the Accelerating Generosity CoLab today at Barna.com/Colab!   To get more practical financial advice from Rachel, check out her latest book, Know Yourself, Know Your Money. Read more about the study Ramsey Solutions did on the state of debt at Ramseysolutions.com.

Dr. Stephanie Shackelford (senior Barna fellow and author) joins David Kinnaman to talk about vocational discipleship within the Church. Drawing from recent Barna research, she debunks the common myths Christians believe about finding happiness and explains why the conversation on vocation matters for both younger and older generations.    --    Order your copy of Dr. Shackelford's new book, You On Purpose, at Barna.com/YouOnPurpose today!   Text the word PULSE to 55123 for BELAY's free resource download, ‘5 Ways A Church Bookkeeper Can Transform Your Day.'

John Mark Comer returns to talk with David Kinnaman about the opportunities and challenges the Church is facing in the current cultural moment. In particular, he discusses a new form of church membership, dealing with people leaving the church and trends in prayer practices emerging from the pandemic. Part 2 of 2. --    Visit Barna.com/Access to find more resources on leading your church through cultural change.

John Mark Comer (author and founding pastor of Bridgetown Church) sits down with David Kinnaman to discuss the three enemies of the soul, cultural trends he's seeing in the next generation and the difficult expectations pastors face when leading through the pandemic.   --    To find more resources on cultural trends and leading the next generation, visit Barna.com/Access today!

Bestselling author and speaker, Rebekah Lyons, sits down with Carey Nieuwhof and David Kinnaman to talk about setting healthy rhythms amidst the pandemic. Together, they discuss how embodied practices (such as sleep and physical exercise) can help leaders address mental health challenges and pursue a more holistic well-being.   --    Check out Barna's report, Restoring Relationships, to learn more about well-being from Rebekah and other leaders. Get your copy today at barna.com/restoringrelationships!

Rob Peabody (CEO of VOMO) and Derek Sanford (Lead Pastor of Grace Church in McKean, PA) join Carey Nieuwhof and David Kinnaman to talk about engaging volunteers digitally and in-person. In particular, they unpack how volunteer ministry can draw in younger generations and help churches discover their unique method for reaching their neighborhood.   -- Sign up for the “Activating Missions Barna CoLab” at Barna.com/CoLab, and use the promo code CHURCHPULSE15.

Bill Willits and Libby Hempen join Carey Nieuwhof to share about their experience leading small groups in a hybrid church context at North Point Ministries. Together, they discuss how to lead conversations amidst political tensions, generational trends in attendance through the pandemic and how shortened attention spans have shaped their curriculum choices.   --   Sign up for the “Activating Missions Barna CoLab” at Barna.com/CoLab, and use the promo code CHURCHPULSE15.   Visit WaterBrookMultnomah.com to get Andy Stanley & Bill's book, Creating Community: Revised & Updated Edition.   Text the word PULSE to 55123 for BELAY's free resource download, ‘5 Ways A Church Bookkeeper Can Transform Your Day.'

Jon Tyson (Lead Pastor at Church of the City New York) returns to talk with Carey Nieuwhof & David Kinnaman about the possibilities of online evangelism, creating a culture of prayer and a new approach to discipleship. Part 2 of 2.   -- Visit Barna.com/IntentionalFather to pre-order The Intentional Father. Additionally, register for the free Intentional Father Summit with new Barna data and discussions with Jon Tyson and David Kinnaman about how to be an intentional father.