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Our guest is PATRICK LENCIONI, NYT best-selling author, founder of The Table Group, advisor to top companies, and founder of the Working Genius Assessment and books like 5 Dysfuncations of a Team, The Advantage, and Ideal Team Player. We discuss his next project, leading today, navigating self awareness, wisdom, teamwork and so much more. Plus, check out the Weekly Top Leadership List and Links. Make sure to visit http://h3leadership.com to access the list and all the show notes. Share them with your team, repost the lists, and follow and subscribe. Thanks again to our partners for this episode: UNITUS – (FOOTWEAR and APPAREL) Unitus is a faith-focused footwear and apparel company started by NBA player, Jonathan Isaac. Visit http://weareunitus.com. Unitus exists to help followers of Jesus honor God in their everyday life. The most recent shoe drop is the Judah 2 - a lifestyle running and athletic shoe featuring Scripture on the back. Choose your favorite shoes, workout gear, hoodies, or leisure wear. Makes a great Christmas present for friends and family. Check them out at http://weareunitus.com. And CONVOY OF HOPE – Please donate to the Jamaica hurricane relief efforts and ongoing work at http://convoyofhope.org/donate. Convoy is my trusted partner for delivering food and relief by responding to disasters in the US and all around the world. Right now, Convoy of Hope is responding to the Jamaica hurricane, Texas Floods destruction, the LA fires rebuilding efforts, providing basic needs like food, hygiene supplies, medical supplies, blankets, bedding, clothing and more. All through partnering with local Churches. Join me and please support their incredible work. To donate visit http://convoyofhope.org/donate.

Do you sometimes over-rely on data to cover yourself instead of trusting your judgment? Episode 257 of At The Table explores why leaders often cling to data, certainty, and predictability—even though business is inherently messy. Pat and Cody discuss how fear of failure drives over-analysis, slowing decisions and weakening judgment. Ultimately, they argue that great leadership is an art fueled by instinct, courage, and human interaction—not algorithms or metrics.Topics explored in this episode: (03:15) Data vs. Instinct in Real Business* Why instinct and common sense dominate real executive decision-making.* The human tendency to return to predictability even when it repeatedly fails.(06:29) When Data Misleads and Context Matters* How statistical predictions often fail to capture real-life variables.* How leaders hide behind numbers to avoid personal responsibility.(09:13) The Power of Seeing the Problem Directly* How over-reliance on data can obscure common sense and slow down problem-solving.(11:40) Business as Art, Not Science* The modern trend toward treating business as a purely scientific discipline.* Why instinct and integrative thinking will never be replaced by either data or AI.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. At The Table is a podcast that lives at the connection between work life, leadership, organizational health, and culture. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/6NWAZzkzl4ljxX7S2xkHvu), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni. Be sure to check out our other podcast, The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3raC053GF5mtkq6Y1klpRU), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via podcast@tablegroup.com. This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.

Go to www.LearningLeader.com for full show notes The Learning Leader Show with Ryan Hawk This is brought to you by Insight Global. If you need to hire one person, hire a team of people, or transform your business through Talent or Technical Services, Insight Global's team of 30,000 people around the world has the hustle and grit to deliver. My Guest: Patrick Lencioni is the founder of The Table Group and a bestselling author of 14 books, including The Five Dysfunctions of a Team and The 6 Types of Working Genius. Behind his achievements (valedictorian, straight A's, business success) were childhood wounds that drove him to prove himself. Key Learnings "I think I'm really good at anticipating people's objections." I think about what they might be thinking and what I need to put out there. Whether talking interpersonally, giving a speech, writing a book, or on a podcast, I like to think about what the other person might be objecting to. Lean into empathy. I always felt like I needed to prove myself in order to be successful and to feel safe. That's not healthy.  "When people tell you they got straight A's and were the valedictorian, the student body president, and got accepted to all the schools they wanted to get into, there's a wound there." Based on my personality type, I shouldn't have done all those things, but it was out of the need to prove myself. Which wasn't healthy for me. My parents had a hard time being affirming because of their own lives. It wasn't until I was 55 years old that a friend who's a psychologist said, "You, my friend, have childhood wounds you've never dealt with." I got good Christian counseling and realized that the way I grew up, I wasn't supposed to grow up that way. It's common in athletes & CEOs to feel like they haven't done enough. They need to do more. "You're a noun, not a verb. You are enough, and you're not defined by what you do." Great achievements come out of fear, but "true greatness is best when it's only in the things that you're meant to be great at, and that you're doing it out of freedom and passion and love, not out of fear of failure." I remember seeing Tiger Woods on the Tonight Show when he was four years old. He was being groomed to be a golfer when he was four. It's best in life when we discover who God means us to be, then we do the things we're supposed to do and we're okay with not being good at the things we're not supposed to. Are we too affirming now as parents? People who are pretty darn good at everything it's usually because they're doing something out of fear. When I was a kid, my parents came from World War II and the Depression. It was like, hey, you got a roof over your head. There was a lot of suffering, and they weren't really attuned to that. Now we are hyper worried of our own kids suffering. No, suffering is actually good. They need to know they're loved and safe, but they're not gonna be protected from what is necessary for their development. The mistake I made was, oh no, I don't want them to feel like I did. Thankfully at my age, I'm now interacting with my mostly adult children and explaining to them what I did wrong. The Teammate Trifecta - How should we use it?: When I wrote The Five Dysfunctions of a Team right after 9/11, I thought, "That's the book on teamwork." Then we realized you need The Ideal Team Player (humble, hungry, and smart) to hire people that fit on teams. Years later, we came up with Working Genius: Are they in the right seat?  3 steps to building a team: Don't let people on the bus if they're not humble, hungry, and smart. Make sure you have them in the right chair based on their gifts. Then teach them the Five Dysfunctions. Pat's Two Working Geniuses: Invention and Discernment "Invention means I love to come up with ideas out of nothing. Discernment means I love evaluating things, curating things. God wired me to do that kind of thing." When people say, "Pat, we have five minutes, and we need a new idea," I just take a deep breath and smile. One man's trash is another man's treasure.  Every new idea I've come up with has been in the field, working with people. I asked Jim Collins, "Jim, you do all this research with data. I go into a room with leaders and just think, What's going on here?" He said, "Pat, that's just as valid as what I do. That's called field research and face validity."  What is Pat terrible at? Finishing things. People say, "Well you finished 14 books." And that's because I had the help of others to make me finish those.  I got a 4.0 in high school. That wasn't my personality. I went to every class in college, never blew off classes. My personality is the kind that should blow off classes that don't matter. But I was so afraid of failing and disappointing my parents and teachers that I did anything they asked. That was not natural; that was fear-based. Can we use fear as useful fuel? "You can use it in the short term, but if you're doing it in your life, no." "We should celebrate what other people are better than we are at things. We should literally celebrate what we suck at." If we have two kids and one's creative and the other's disciplined, we tell the creative one to be more disciplined and the disciplined one to be more creative. No. We have to say, understanding that you're not creative is good for you. That's not who you're meant to be. The hardest thing about being a parent is constantly asking yourself, "Am I pushing them too hard or not enough?" The hardest question you ask yourself as a parent is, "Am I pushing my kids too hard or not hard enough?" This question also applies to yourself.  In Working Genius, should I work on my working frustrations? The short answer is no.  Working Genius is all about knowing what you love to do. Enablement and Tenacity are my working frustrations, and so many of those things fall into parenting. I'd say to my wife, "Hey, Laura, let's outsource some of these things." Out of fear and guilt, she said no because she felt like she'd be a bad mother. Outsource the work you don't enjoy, and when you have to do it, try your best and don't feel guilty with the result. The electrical company turned off our power for not paying the bill. We need to accept our deficiencies and need to be able to laugh at the things we're not good at.  Ryan's Learning Leader Team: When your whole team has Tenacity as their working genius, your team loves to finish things. You will never be flaky. You might stick to something that needs to be changed way before it needs to be. In my company, we're always up for a change in plans, but not great at following through. If your team doesn't have Wonder and Invention, force yourself to borrow from others outside the organization to get new ideas. The Five Dysfunctions of a Team Vulnerability-based trust changes everything in teams. Eric Spoelstra uses Five Dysfunctions with the Miami Heat. He started when they acquired LeBron James. He said, "I don't know what offense we're gonna run this year, but I know we're gonna use the Five Dysfunctions." I love it in basketball, especially because you see them on the court. When people can be so vulnerable that they can say it was my fault, or I need help, or I'm sorry I was kind of a jerk yesterday at practice, it changes everything. But when you have a player who doesn't admit when they made a mistake or who blames everybody else, the ceiling of that team being great is so low. Humble, Hungry, Smart has been a great tool for athletic teams. I define it: no ego, it's about the team (humble). Hungry means I go above and beyond. Smart means I have emotional intelligence. I have the team members say, "Which of those three is your lowest?" It is crazy how people will call out. The goalie said, "I'm not smart. I yell at guys on the field, and I demean them. I gotta get better." Another kid said, "I need to be hungrier. I don't do the workouts at home." Pat phrases it this way when meeting with athletic teams. "Okay, everybody, look around at your teammates and think about the thing they want to get better at. If you want to be a good teammate, when you see your teammate doing the thing he just admitted he wants to get better at, you need to call him out on it." Once people start to have that language, it's amazing how they're coaching each other. And if as a coach yourself, I think you should tell people, "When I was a player, this was mine." They're gonna go, hey, if the coach admits that, I'll do it too. For leaders with Enablement & Tenacity as top geniuses, how do they avoid burnout? You have to be willing to start with "I am prone to burnout if you guys aren't aware of what's going on." The people with enablement and tenacity will say, "I'll just do it," and then they do. We had 12 employees and only one had Tenacity. We said we are going to kill her because every time we have to get something done, we're gonna say, "Jackie will finish." When people have enablement and tenacity, they and everybody else need to say, let's not abuse them. How do we assess a company in a short amount of time without focusing on their financials?  When I go into a company, I find out what their meetings are like. If there's no disagreement and they're not exhausted at the end of a meeting, that's a red flag. If good people are leaving an organization, that's a massive red flag. I like going around and checking interactions. Is there an intensity with people together? Or are they alone and quiet? Also, keep an eye on customer reviews. What are the customers saying? There are two extremes of humility problems: arrogance on one end, and lack of confidence on the other. I first identified humility as a problem when I saw a CEO who didn't care about his company's results, but if he went on TV and answered questions about why they didn't meet their numbers, he would make jokes and make others laugh. If he was happy from that versus getting the results they needed, that's an issue. What specific traits do leaders need to have to get hired? A leader has to simultaneously believe they are no more important than the people they lead. They also have to accept the fact that their behaviors and words ARE more important than others in the company. "The one thing the leader has to do is break the tie." This past Friday, I was in a meeting trying to deal with a strategic issue between two great people. I dropped a curse word and said, "Listen, I'm pulling the CEO card right now. I don't do it all that often, but since I am the CEO, this is where we're going." Because I don't pull it every time, people are glad to have a CEO that will do that. If you're doing it every time, you lose credibility. Advice for young professionals: I wrote a book called The Motive, and what I say to leaders when they're young is: make sure your motive for being a leader is about sacrificing and suffering for others. "I want to help this organization, or I want to be the kind of person that takes on more than others for their good." Leadership is a lonely and selfless thing. It's wonderful, but the personal economics of leadership are not good. If you don't sign up for that, don't be a leader. Too many people say, I want to be a leader. And if you really scratch below the surface, they'll say, I think it would make me feel important, I'd get attention, maybe I'd make money, I'd have power. When that's your motive for being a leader, you're not gonna be a great leader. Reflection Questions Pat says people who were perfect students (straight A's, valedictorian, student body president) often have childhood wounds driving them. What in your past might be driving your current achievements? Are you operating from freedom and passion, or from fear and the need to prove yourself? He teaches his kids' sports teams to identify which of Humble, Hungry, or Smart is their lowest, then hold each other accountable when they see teammates struggling with that area. What would you identify as your lowest, and who in your life could you invite to call you out when you're not living up to it? Pat says the motive for leadership should be "sacrificing and suffering for others," not feeling important or controlling what you work on. If you're honest about why you want to lead (or why you currently lead), what's really driving you? Would people who report to you say you're other-motivated or personally motivated?

In this episode of Counsel Culture, Eric sits down with organizational health pioneer Patrick Lencioni for a rich, honest conversation about work, faith, family, and why leadership is far more about responsibility than reward. Pat shares how, at 59, he hit pause to confront long-buried wounds, and how that season of healing reshaped the way he leads, loves his family, and serves the people around him. Pat traces the origin story of The Table Group, his longtime fascination with the workplace, and how his Catholic faith now sits at the very center of his work. From parenting moments that involve teenage traffic tickets to power being shut off at home, he uses real life to illustrate why vulnerability, forgiveness, and humility are non-negotiables, whether you're leading a company or a family. Eric and Pat dig into two of Pat's most influential ideas: meaningful conflict and vulnerability-based trust. They unpack why conflict-avoidant leaders quietly damage teams, how attachment styles show up in meetings, and why the simple words "I was wrong, please forgive me" might be the most powerful leadership tool we have. Pat also explains the Six Types of Working Genius, how his wiring differs from Eric's, and why our gifts and gaps are designed to pull us toward deeper dependence on one another. The conversation closes with a look at culture, both at work and at home. Pat connects his "chaos family" framework with The Five Dysfunctions of a Team, explains how to spot a company's real values by watching executives, and revisits his book The Motive to ask why we pursue leadership in the first place. He finishes with the simple spiritual disciplines that now bookend his day and quietly anchor everything else. In this episode, you'll learn: ·       What it looks like to surrender your career to God's will and rediscover work as ministry ·       How vulnerability, forgiveness, and "owning your stuff" build deep trust on teams and in families ·       Why healthy conflict is about the pursuit of truth, not winning arguments ·       How the Working Genius model reveals your gifts, your frustrations, and your need for others ·       Practical ways to discern the real culture of an organization, beyond the words on the wall ·       The five core responsibilities many leaders quietly abdicate (and how to reclaim them) ·       Simple daily rhythms of prayer that can transform how you lead, love, and live This episode is dedicated to Pat's journey. This conversation is what we make it. This, is Counsel Culture. Learn more at www.ericbrooker.com | www.thetablegroup.com  

How might a layoff create space for you to pursue work that energizes you rather than drains you?In episode 101 of the Working Genius Podcast, Pat and Cody explore why layoffs—while often painful—can become pivotal moments of clarity and reinvention. They also explain how the Working Genius framework provides a roadmap for choosing future roles that offer joy, energy, and long-term career sustainability. Topics explored in this episode: (02:20) What Layoffs Reveal About Misaligned Work* How many people fall into roles based on majors, circumstance, or convenience—not joy and energy.* How Working Genius uncovers transferable strengths that open doors.(04:59) Rethinking Identity and Job Descriptions* How job descriptions often fail to capture the actual genius needed for success.* Employees who thrived after shifting roles, including a lawyer who moved into a technology leadership role using his Genius.(07:50) Why Most People Aren't Working in Their Genius* How few people truly operate within their strengths.* The value of cultural fit, personal interests, and joy—not just salary—when choosing a new role.(14:54) Life Changes and the Power of a Reset* How life transitions and financial considerations can open unexpected possibilities for better-fit work.This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you're able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://workinggenius.me/about Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3raC053GF5mtkq6Y1klpRU), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni. Be sure to check out our other podcast, At The Table with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/6NWAZzkzl4ljxX7S2xkHvu), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via

How does working in a “toxic” culture affect your ability to perform and trust others? Also, if your organization has an unhealthy work environment, how can leaders begin the process of internal correction? In episode 256 of At The Table, Pat Lencioni and Cody Thompson unpack what “toxic culture” really means—and what it doesn't. They explore how toxicity rarely starts at the bottom but usually traces back to the executive team's dysfunction, lack of clarity, or tolerance for poor behavior. They also share the signs, causes, and antidotes of toxic workplaces, encouraging leaders to create environments rooted in honesty and accountability.Topics explored in this episode: (00:20) Defining “Toxic Culture”* The importance of defining “toxic” and challenging the assumption that perks equal health.(04:00) The Source of Toxicity* Toxic cultures almost always originate at the executive level, not among lower-level employees.(08:00) How to Diagnose Toxicity* Cody compares toxic environments to poor sleep—you can feel it without needing a metric.(13:00) What Toxic Cultures Look Like* Key signs: political behavior, tolerated poor performance, and confusion from unclear goals.* How even good leaders can accidentally create toxicity.(17:00) Healing and Hope for Teams* Every organization experiences some level of dysfunction—but honesty and ownership can fix it.* The idea of replacing the word “toxic” with “dysfunctional” or “political,” emphasizing that healing begins with truth.In this episode, Pat and Cody discussed the following study by the employment website, Monster: “Toxic Workplaces Are Worsening: 80% of U.S. Workers Now Say Their Job Hurts Their Mental Health”; https://www.monster.com/career-advice/job-search/news-and-insights/mental-health-in-the-workplace-poll-2025 This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. At The Table is a podcast that lives at the connection between work life, leadership, organizational health, and culture. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/6NWAZzkzl4ljxX7S2xkHvu), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni. Be sure to check out our other podcast, The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3raC053GF5mtkq6Y1klpRU), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via podcast@tablegroup.com. This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.

What happens when we misunderstand or mistype someone's Working Genius? Also, what changes when we finally understand the true genius behind someone's behavior?In episode 100 of the Working Genius Podcast, Pat and Cody explore why an incorrectly identified Working Genius can create frustration, friction, and confusion among teammates. They also dive into factors that often lead to mistyping, and how understanding true genius unlocks better collaboration and more joy. Topics explored in this episode: (03:00) When the Wrong Genius Causes Friction* How teams can inadvertently push people into the wrong types of work.* Metaphors—like ice cream and lactose intolerance—to illustrate the mismatch.(06:25) The Nuances Behind Misinterpreting Behaviors* Examples of people misinterpreting public speaking as galvanizing.* How different geniuses can look similar on the surface but feel different internally.(09:22) Why Some Geniuses Are Commonly Mistyped* Why Wonder and Enablement are often misunderstood.* How environment and personal bias influence self-typing.(13:39) Consequences of Selling the Wrong Genius* Why advertising a genius you don't have creates false expectations.* The importance of accurate self-awareness.This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you're able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://workinggenius.me/about Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3raC053GF5mtkq6Y1klpRU), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni. Be sure to check out our other podcast, At The Table with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/6NWAZzkzl4ljxX7S2xkHvu), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via

In this episode of the Second in Command Podcast, guest host Sivana Brewer sits down with Matthew Rathje, Chief Operating Officer of TrueNorth Companies and long-time member of the COO Alliance.From starting in payroll and claims management to leading operations for a $165M insurance and professional services firm, Matt shares his journey of scaling from the ground up, balancing structure, culture, and human leadership. He offers practical insights on bringing clarity and accountability to fast-growing organizations, structuring meetings that actually move the needle, and building trust without falling into “artificial harmony.”Matt also opens up about navigating personal and professional adversity, from weathering the 2020 derecho storm that destroyed his family's home, to leading through COVID-19, and how those experiences shaped his leadership philosophy rooted in humility, collaboration, and optimism.Timestamped Highlights[00:01:20] – Matt's journey at TrueNorth and how he helped the company grow from a local firm to a $165M organization.[00:05:16] – Lessons from moving between individual contributor and leadership roles.[00:07:00] – How TrueNorth's leadership transition inspired a more unified executive vision.[00:09:20] – Preparing to step into the COO role and finding mentors in the process.[00:10:44] – Why Matt joined the COO Alliance and what he learned from peers in other industries.[00:13:00] – Building clarity and accountability through RIMs and RIOs (Relatable Impact Metrics & Objectives).[00:15:00] – Starting TrueNorth's organizational health journey with Patrick Lencioni's Table Group.[00:17:34] – How Lencioni's framework helped the team prioritize what's most important right now.[00:18:46] – Team effectiveness workshops and how vulnerability-based trust builds healthy organizations.[00:20:35] – How to identify “artificial harmony” and address it before it erodes team commitment.[00:24:32] – Balancing collaboration with decisive leadership.[00:26:03] – Structuring meetings for clarity, speed, and results.[00:29:40] – How personal adversity (a devastating storm) strengthened Matt's leadership perspective.[00:33:54] – Leading with empathy, gratitude, and perspective through crisis.[00:38:52] – Building trust and vulnerability across teams.[00:40:31] – Strengthening the CEO-COO relationship and defining complementary strengths.[00:42:42] – Using Vivid Vision to align the entire company around purpose and feeling.[00:46:14] – Launching The TrueNorth Way: the company's roadmap for a world-class client experience.Resources & MentionsThe Apple Experience by Carmine GalloUnreasonable Hospitality by Will GuidaraMeetings Suck by Cameron HeroldThe Five Dysfunctions of a Team by Patrick Lencioni (and the related Five Behaviors of a Cohesive Team framework)About the GuestMatthew Rathje is the Chief Operating Officer of TrueNorth Companies, a Midwest-based insurance and professional services firm dedicated to protecting and maximizing its clients' assets, resources, and opportunities.Since joining TrueNorth over a decade ago,...

What happens when innovation outpaces our moral compass?In episode 255 of At The Table, Patrick and Cody wrestle with the tension between technological innovation and human dignity in the workplace. As artificial intelligence reshapes industries, they ask whether efficiency has become more important than humanity. This episode invites leaders and consumers alike to seek a moral “true north”—one that values people over profit and connection over convenience.Topics explored in this episode: (02:57) Innovation Without a True North* Concern that the rise of AI could fundamentally displace human work.* Innovation must be guided by ethics and human-centered purpose, not just economic efficiency.(07:15) The Role of Leaders * The need for leaders to assess whether their choices serve humanity.(10:10) The Role of Consumers* Consumers voting with their wallets and resisting convenience that devalues human connection.(14:27) The Convenience Crisis* How people increasingly prioritize ease over meaning.(18:45) Dignity, Work, and the Future* The deeper value of work beyond income—as a source of dignity, growth, and relationship.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. At The Table is a podcast that lives at the connection between work life, leadership, organizational health, and culture. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/6NWAZzkzl4ljxX7S2xkHvu), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni. Be sure to check out our other podcast, The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3raC053GF5mtkq6Y1klpRU), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via podcast@tablegroup.com. This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.

Sam Isaacson saw the rise of artificial intelligence coming, and he was ready for it. With his background in managing technology risk and change, he could see the impact that rapid AI development would have on his current profession as a coach, and in this episode of The Coach's Journey Podcast he addresses some of the most pressing issues facing coaches all over the world.Very few people are as well placed as Sam to speak about the threats and the benefits AI holds for human coaches. After all, he has developed his own AI coaching product, AICoach.chat, which provides its clients with a “distraction-free space for thinking, challenging and reframing, not reacting”.In conversation with episode host Neil Mackinnon, Sam addresses questions of ethics, efficacy and economy that have been brought to bear on the coaching industry by the rise of products like his.The coach, author and founder of The Coachtech Collective offers his perspective on the qualitative difference between being coached by a human and an AI, and the crucial question of what role relationship plays in successful coaching engagements.Sam, who was the first person to ever coach people in virtual reality, describes this and many other remarkable achievements in vivid detail, painting a picture of the limitless possibilities held by emergent technologies.Sam and Neil also talk about:The AI-enabled coaching products and facilities that are available nowThe work Sam has done to align the world of coaching with the world of apprenticeshipsThe pros and cons of content creation as a coachThe coaching conferences Sam recommends (including his own!)In this deep-dive into cutting edge coaching technology, Sam picks out the products that can be of most benefit to your coaching practice right now, and explains the transformative impact they can have.THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN:- Transforming Coaching with AI and Technology with Sam Isaacson – Delenta podcast https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa3q3KqXzhc - Myers Briggs https://www.myersbriggs.org/my-mbti-personality-type/myers-briggs-overview/ - Sam Isaacson – Coach, author, founder of The Coachtech Collective https://isaacson.uk/ - The Coachtech Collective – community exploring coaching + tech https://isaacson.uk/buy/the-coachtech-collective/ - EMCC – European Mentoring and Coaching Council https://www.emccglobal.org/ - ILM – Institute of Leadership & Management https://www.institutelm.com/ - Apprenticeship Trailblazer (UK coaching apprenticeship framework) https://www.instituteforapprenticeships.org/ - Patrick Lencioni – The Five Dysfunctions of a Team, founder of The Table Group https://www.tablegroup.com/ - Challenging Coaching by Blakey & Day https://www.amazon.co.uk/Challenging-Coaching-Transforming-Performance-Organisations/dp/1857885753- “High Support, High Challenge” https://www.maier.co.uk/insights/high_support_high_challenge/ - Toku McCree – Coach, author of “Love on the End of a Sword” https://coachingmba.co/about/- John Whitmore – Coaching for Performance, GROW modelhttps://www.performanceconsultants.com/grow-model - Nancy Kline – Time to Think model https://www.timetothink.com/- Nicholas Janni – Leader as Healer https://www.nicholasjanni.com/book-leader-as-healer/- Video session by Nicholas Janni (theme: presence-based coaching) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuXDCUcDsu4 - WBX / Coaching.com Summit – Global coaching & leadership summit https://www.coaching.com/summit/ - Coaching.com – Coaching management platform https://www.coaching.com/- Alex Pascal – Founder of Coaching.com (in memoriam) https://www.coaching.com/about/ - Coach Is Rising – Coaching organisation & training platform https://www.coachisrising.com/- Digital & AI Coaches' Conference (founded by Sam Isaacson) https://isaacson.uk/digital-and-ai-coaches-conference/- Jonathan Passmore – Coaching psychologist, author, academic https://www.henley.ac.uk/people/dr-jonathan-passmore - Sandra Diller – Editor / academic in coaching and leadership (co-editor with Passmore & Isaacson) (No central site; academic publications: https://orcid.org/0000-0002-8793-1946)- Max Blumberg / Max Brantle (likely Max Blumberg, co-editor of coaching texts) https://www.maxblumberg.com/ - Joel Monk – Host of Coaches Rising podcast (sometimes written as Munch in transcripts) https://www.coachesrising.com/podcast/ - Robbie Swale – Coach & author (How to Start When You're Stuck) https://robbieswale.com/ - The World Humanoid Robot Games https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/cvg3mv3rz60o - AICoach.chat – Sam's AI coaching product https://www.aicoach.chat/ - Make.com https://www.make.com/en - The CoachTech Collective http://coachtech.uk/ BIOGRAPHY FROM SAMSam Isaacson is a coaching thought leader and consultant whose work leans into technology as an enabler for revolutionising coaching strategies and approaches. He has been writing about cutting-edge technologies, including AI, blockchain and the metaverse, for many years and now works with organisations and coaches around the world on their use of technology. Sam's books include several on the impact of technology on the coaching profession, and others on the use of coaching as a strategic tool within organisations. He has regularly contributed to Choice magazine and Coaching at Work, and frequently speaks at respected coaching conferences. Sam lives in West London in the UK, in a home made noisy by his four sons. In his spare time he is deeply involved in the world of tabletop miniature wargaming, where he co-hosts a podcast.

How does being an Inventor-Discerner shape your leadership style when guiding a team?In episode 99 of the Working Genius Podcast, In this episode, Pat Lencioni and Cody Thompson welcome master facilitator Claire Laughlin to unpack the unique strengths and quirks of the Inventor-Discerner (ID) pairing. Together, they explore how people with this Working Genius pairing constantly generate, refine, and iterate ideas in real time. Claire Laughlin is a dynamic trainer and coach who helps teams communicate better and lead with purpose. As one of The Table Group's master facilitators, she teaches the Working Genius model to leaders and organizations worldwide.Topics explored in this episode: (00:30) The Joy of Being an Inventor-Discerner* Claire shares how her brain instantly starts creating when pressure subsides.(05:00) The ID Loop in Action* How invention and discernment happen almost simultaneously.(09:00) How IDs Annoy and Delight Others* How an ID's confidence and quick thinking can overwhelm teammates.(14:00) Feeding Creativity * How IDs can stay connected to wonder instead of jumping straight to ideas.* How curiosity and real-world problems can ignite your genius.(21:00) Living the Working Genius Every Day* How Claire uses Working Genius to solve team problems.Thanks to Claire Laughlin for being on the show! Learn more about Claire: https://www.clairelaughlin.com Connect with Claire on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/clairelaughlin/ This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you're able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://workinggenius.me/about Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3raC053GF5mtkq6Y1klpRU), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni. Be sure to check out our other podcast, At The Table with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (

Have your remote teams been unknowingly breeding politics through silence and distance?In episode 254 of At The Table, Pat and Cody explore how remote work can unintentionally foster politics and erode trust within teams. They unpack why virtual communication creates space for misunderstanding and suspicion—even among well-intentioned people. They also offer practical advice for building connections, restoring trust, and maintaining healthy team dynamics across distance.Topics explored in this episode: (00:00) Understanding Virtual Politics* How “virtual politics” can be thought of as the subtle mistrust that grows when people work apart.(03:30) How Distance Fuels Assumptions* How lack of information makes people fill in the gaps—often with negative assumptions.(06:27) Building Proactive Trust* How frequent, small check-ins can keep trust alive.* Why men and women sometimes handle connection differently and how teams can structure regular contact.(09:43) Efficiency vs. Relationship* How Zoom culture prioritizes efficiency over connection. * Pat introduces the concept of “wasting time well” as essential for maintaining team health.(11:52) The Ladder of Inference * Pat explains the “ladder of inference” and how remote work accelerates false assumptions.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. At The Table is a podcast that lives at the connection between work life, leadership, organizational health, and culture. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/6NWAZzkzl4ljxX7S2xkHvu), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni. Be sure to check out our other podcast, The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3raC053GF5mtkq6Y1klpRU), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via podcast@tablegroup.com. This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.

How can you genuinely honor someone's working frustrations, beyond just being aware of them?In episode 98 of the Working Genius Podcast, Patrick and Cody explore the idea of honoring working frustrations—the tasks that drain energy, even when you're good at them. Using team member Tracy Noble as a case study, they discuss how competence without joy leads to burnout and how leaders can reorganize work to restore energy and dignity. Topics explored in this episode: (01:00) The Cost of Competence* The danger of confusing skill with joy and how it drains energy over time.(03:20) Understanding What Drains Us* How some people excel at things they dislike, leading to burnout.* Recognizing frustration is an act of respect, not weakness.(06:00) Team Reorganization * How team roles at The Table Group were restructured to align with genius types.(09:00) Redefining Productivity and Human Dignity* How long-term effectiveness outweighs short-term efficiency.* Honoring frustrations is essential to dignity and joy in work.(13:20) Applying Working Genius to Real Roles* Cody shares practical ways to match people's genius with job requirements.* Pat reflects on his own burnout and how awareness of frustration fosters empathy.This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you're able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://workinggenius.me/about Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3raC053GF5mtkq6Y1klpRU), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni. Be sure to check out our other podcast, At The Table with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/6NWAZzkzl4ljxX7S2xkHvu), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via podcast@tablegroup.com. This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.

Are you unintentionally eroding trust by avoiding hard conversations? Also, what happens to your team when trust goes unexercised?In episode 253 of At The Table, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson unpack why trust isn't something to simply build and preserve—it must be used, stretched, and tested to grow stronger. They explore how leaders unintentionally erode trust by avoiding honest curiosity, mistaking it for suspicion. Topics explored in this episode: (00:00) Curiosity vs. Suspicion* How simple questions like “What are you working on?” can build or break trust.* Why avoiding questions to “protect” trust actually weakens it over time.(04:59) Trust Isn't a Museum Piece* Unused trust is like a car that's never driven—beautiful but purposeless.(09:56) Healthy Relationships Aren't Fragile* How conflict and tension signal healthy trust, not dysfunction.* The importance of exercising trust through candid conversations.(13:28) Trust and Remote Leadership* How distance and fear of misinterpretation can make trust decay faster.(17:16) Leaders Must Take the First Risk* Pat challenges leaders to stop being afraid of awkwardness and exercise trust first.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. At The Table is a podcast that lives at the connection between work life, leadership, organizational health, and culture. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/6NWAZzkzl4ljxX7S2xkHvu), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni. Be sure to check out our other podcast, The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3raC053GF5mtkq6Y1klpRU), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via podcast@tablegroup.com. This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.

How does your work or home environment shape the way you see your Working Genius?Episode 97 of the Working Genius Podcast explores how environment and culture can dramatically influence how people view their own talents. Patrick Lencioni, Cody Thompson, and Matt Lencioni share personal stories and client examples where individuals misunderstood their results because of the strong pull of their surroundings. They also discuss how, when you take the Working Genius assessment, it's essential to put aside what you think you should be doing and instead focus on what brings you joy and energy.Topics explored in this episode: (0:30) Environment and Perception* How our environment can distort our Working Genius assessment results.* Cody describes how people often answer based on workplace expectations instead of core joy.(5:42) Stories of Misalignment* Examples of people whose results were skewed by strong cultural or organizational environments.* A Marine veteran and a priest are highlighted as cases where structure shaped inaccurate results.(15:30) Wonder as the Overlooked Genius* How Matt misidentified his geniuses because of college leadership roles.* Why “wonder” can be undervalued in structured settings.(20:43) Liberation Through Clarity* The relief and freedom that come from discovering true geniuses.This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you're able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://workinggenius.me/about Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4iGGm8u), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni. Be sure to check out our other podcast, At The Table with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3raC053GF5mtkq6Y1klpRU), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via

What happens to a culture when leaders ignore problems?In episode 252 of At The Table, Patrick and Cody explore the leadership principle of running toward the fire. They discuss why leaders often ignore the “smoke” of personnel or cultural issues, hoping problems will resolve themselves. Instead, they argue that credibility, trust, and organizational health are built when leaders courageously confront issues before they spread.Topics explored in this episode: 00:35 – Seeing Smoke* Leaders set the tone by how they respond to problems.03:33 – Defining the Fire* Personnel problems are the most commonly ignored fires in organizations.06:03 – Why Leaders Avoid the Fire* Confrontation feels messy and uncomfortable, especially when emotions are involved.09:45 – The Cost of Avoidance* Ignoring smoke damages credibility, weakens leadership muscle, and sets a bad cultural example.12:20 – Regaining Credibility* Leaders can only rebuild trust through visible action, not promises.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. At The Table is a podcast that lives at the connection between work life, leadership, organizational health, and culture. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4l1aop0), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni. Be sure to check out our other podcast, The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4iGGm8u), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via podcast@tablegroup.com. This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.

How can understanding your strengths and weaknesses through the Working Genius model lead to true confidence?Confidence isn't about pretending to be great at everything—it's about knowing and accepting the truth about yourself. In episode 96 of the Working Genius Podcast, Patrick and Cody explain how the Working Genius framework provides a foundation for authentic confidence rooted in both strengths and weaknesses. They share practical insights on how humility, honesty, and self-awareness create confidence that impacts work, relationships, and life.Topics explored in this episode: 0:30 – Defining Confidence * Confidence is not arrogance, but alignment with truth about yourself.* Humility and confidence complement each other by grounding people in reality.3:40 – The Power of Admitting Weaknesses* Acknowledging what you're not good at frees you to celebrate your real strengths.6:20 – Building Confidence Through Working Genius* The Working Genius framework provides language for identifying gifts and frustrations.10:55 – Humility, Gifting, and Evidence* Confidence is strengthened when you recognize gifts as given, not earned.15:30 – Confidence for the Next Generation* Helping young people discover their genius accelerates confidence and direction.This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you're able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://workinggenius.me/about Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3raC053GF5mtkq6Y1klpRU), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni. Be sure to check out our other podcast, At The Table with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4l1aop0), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via

In what ways can the formula for change be useful for understanding both personal and organizational change?In episode 251 of At The Table, Patrick and Cody explore the so-called change equation, a simple yet powerful formula that explains why some change efforts succeed while others stall. Breaking it down into dissatisfaction, vision, and a first simple step—multiplied together—they show how these elements must outweigh resistance for change to occur. Topics explored in this episode: 0:55 – The Change Equation3:17 – D: Dissatisfaction with the Current State* How leaders and individuals can identify and amplify dissatisfaction.4:38 – V: Vision for a Better Future* The importance of painting a clear and compelling future state.6:52 – F: The First Simple Step* Why a small, achievable action builds momentum and reduces overwhelm.17:59 – R: Resistance to Change* How fear, comfort, and uncertainty fuel resistance.Here are some additional notes that relate to the equation explored in this episode: D × V × F > R. D = Dissatisfaction with how things are now. V = Vision of what is possible. F = First concrete steps that can be taken towards the vision. If the product of these three factors is greater than R = Resistance, then change is possible. Because D, V, and F are multiplied, if any one is absent (zero) or low, then the product will be zero or low and therefore not capable of overcoming the resistance.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. At The Table is a podcast that lives at the connection between work life, leadership, organizational health, and culture. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4l1aop0), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni. Be sure to check out our other podcast, The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4iGGm8u), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via podcast@tablegroup.com. This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.

Leadership may come with titles, pay, and freedom, but it also demands sacrifice, and too often, leaders forget this truth. When they do, organizations slip into coddling cultures, unclear values, and employees unprepared for the realities of work. In this episode, Patrick Lencioni, CEO of The Table Group and bestselling author of The Five Dysfunctions of a Team and Working Genius, breaks down what leadership really requires and why so many organizations get it wrong. We explore why true leadership is rooted in service, clarity, and accountability, not perks or comfort, and caution against the dangers of companies trying to be “everything to everyone.” We also explore the balance between inclusion and responsibility, the widespread misuse of psychological safety, and how overemphasizing well-being can unintentionally weaken resilience. This conversation is a reminder that leaders must be brutally clear about values, hire for humility, hunger, and smarts, and embrace discomfort as the foundation for growth and long-term success.   ________________ Start your day with the world's top leaders by joining thousands of others at Great Leadership on Substack. Just enter your email: ⁠⁠https://greatleadership.substack.com/

What creative analogies can you use to help understand your joy and frustration at work?In episode 95 of the Working Genius Podcast, Patrick and Cody revisit one of their earliest metaphors for the Six Types of Working Genius model: the coffee cup analogy. They explore how it explains joy, competency, and frustration in work—and why new analogies like batteries, bikes, and even shoes can add nuance to the conversation. Along the way, they highlight how interest, energy, and preference intersect with genius.Topics explored in this episode: (3:42) Battery Analogies* How genius can feel like charging a phone.* Whether constant genius work is healthy or limiting.(7:30) Bike Riding Analogies* Cody introduces the uphill, flat, and downhill bike comparison.* Pat adds how electric bikes recharge, mirroring the energy of genius.(9:44) Analogies About Shoes and Household Chores * The difference between genius and personal likes/dislikes.(15:06) The Lunch Analogy * How interest or disinterest in particular subjects or meals shape our energy.This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you're able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://workinggenius.me/about Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4iGGm8u), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni. Be sure to check out our other podcast, At The Table with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4l1aop0), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via podcast@tablegroup.com. This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.

How would your workplace culture change if love and service were driving forces?In episode 250 of At The Table, Pat and Cody introduce the concepts of BaaM (Business as a Ministry) and WaaM (Work as a Ministry). They explore how viewing business and work through the lens of service and love can create healthier workplaces and stronger organizations. Whether you're leading a public company or managing a small team, this conversation will invite how you think about purpose, culture, and results.Topics explored in this episode: (0:32) Business as a Ministry (BaaM) * How businesses can be seen as a way to serve others with love, going beyond just the transactional goal of making money(3:10) The Case for Love in Business* Tim Sanders' book Love Is the Killer App.* How fear-based businesses struggle while love-centered cultures thrive.* The challenge of applying BaaM in public companies.(5:48) Work as a Ministry (Waam)* WaaM can be useful for employees in less purpose-driven organizations.(8:07) Ministry Doesn't Sacrifice Results* John Gordon's belief that love fuels high performance.* Love-driven work produces results, but should be pursued because it's right.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. At The Table is a podcast that lives at the connection between work life, leadership, organizational health, and culture. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4l1aop0), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni. Be sure to check out our other podcast, The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4iGGm8u), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via podcast@tablegroup.com. This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.

Patrick Lencioni is one of the founders of The Table Group and is the pioneer of the organizational health movement. He is the author of 13 books, which have sold over 9 million copies and been translated into more than 30 languages.As President of the Table Group, Pat spends his time speaking and writing about leadership, teamwork, and organizational health and consulting with executives and their teams.  After more than twenty years in print, his classic book, The Five Dysfunctions of a Team, remains a fixture on national best-seller lists.  His most recent book, The Six Types of Working Genius, was released in September 2022, and he is also the host of the popular business podcast, At The Table with Patrick Lencioni.  In this episode of World of DaaS, Patrick and Auren discuss:Why smart companies fail despite having great strategyThe six types of working genius frameworkHow to run meetings that don't suckBuilding organizational health through productive conflictLooking for more tech, data and venture capital intel? Head to worldofdaas.com for our podcast, newsletter and events, and follow us on X @worldofdaas.You can find Auren Hoffman on X at @auren and Patrick Lencioni on X at @patricklencioni, on Linkedin and on YouTube. Take the Working Genius Assessment here: https://workinggenius.me/showEditing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant (https://thepodcastconsultant.com)

Our book this month is "The Four Obsessions of an Extraordinary Executive: A No-Nonsense Breakdown" by Patrick Lencioni.It's not a new book. It was first published in 2000. The author is founder and president of The Table Group, a firm dedicated to helping leaders improve their organizations' health since 1997. Prior to founding The Table Group, Lencioni served on the executive team at Sybase, Inc. He started his career at Bain & Company and later worked at Oracle Corporation.The core of the book are four obsessions that the author believe are core to a healthy organization.Obsession #1: Build a Real Leadership Team, Not a Social ClubObsession #2: Stop the Confusion and Get ClearObsession #3: Communicate Until You're Sick of Your Own VoiceObsession #4: Put Clarity into the Company's DNA-------------**Real Estate Espresso Podcast:** Spotify: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](https://open.spotify.com/show/3GvtwRmTq4r3es8cbw8jW0?si=c75ea506a6694ef1)   iTunes: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-real-estate-espresso-podcast/id1340482613)   Website: [www.victorjm.com](http://www.victorjm.com)   LinkedIn: [Victor Menasce](http://www.linkedin.com/in/vmenasce)   YouTube: [The Real Estate Espresso Podcast](http://www.youtube.com/@victorjmenasce6734)   Facebook: [www.facebook.com/realestateespresso](http://www.facebook.com/realestateespresso)   Email: [podcast@victorjm.com](mailto:podcast@victorjm.com)  **Y Street Capital:** Website: [www.ystreetcapital.com](http://www.ystreetcapital.com)   Facebook: [www.facebook.com/YStreetCapital](https://www.facebook.com/YStreetCapital)   Instagram: [@ystreetcapital](http://www.instagram.com/ystreetcapital)  

How can the Working Genius model prevent decision-making confusion?In episode 94 of the Working Genius Podcast, Pat, Cody, and guest Krista Kotrla unpack the concept of “crossing the decision line,” exploring how leaders can move from healthy conflict to clear commitments, avoiding the trap of endless discernment and re-decision. Through practical tools like end-of-meeting discipline, clarity over certainty, and understanding the nuances of galvanizing, they discuss how to drive alignment, commitment, and faster execution.Krista Kotrla is a consultant with The Table Group who helps leaders turn healthy conflict into clear commitments.Topics explored in this episode: * 00:00 – Defining the Decision Line* 06:50 – Decision Science vs. Implementation Science* 09:41 – Linking the Decision Line to the Five Dysfunctions* 13:44 – Galvanizing and Communication After Decisions* 16:35 – Real-World Example of Clarity Over Consensus* 21:33 – The Power of Clarity in LeadershipThanks to Krista Kotrla for being on the show! Visit: https://kristakotrla.com/ Connect with Krista on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristakotrla This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you're able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://workinggenius.me/about Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4iGGm8u), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni. Be sure to check out our other podcast, At The Table with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4l1aop0), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via

How can you create a workforce of hungry people who aren't trying to prove their worth by the number of hours they work? And how can you help your coworkers build a sense of ownership and passion around their work? In episode 249 of At The Table, Pat and Cody explore why “hunger wins” when it comes to building competitive, effective teams. They challenge the misconception that long hours translate to productivity. They also reveal how to create sustainable competitiveness that inspires people to go above and beyond—without burning them out.Topics explored in this episode: (0:40) Hunger and Competitiveness* Global trends and misconceptions about competitiveness, including China's 996 work model.(4:12) The Pitfalls of Overwork* Why excessive hours lead to burnout and inefficiency.(7:25) Hunger in Organizational Culture* Hunger can't be legislated or regulated—it must be built into culture.* The importance of avoiding extremes, hiring the right people, and providing flexibility.(10:09) Ownership and Sustainable Competitiveness* How ownership fuels hunger and why pushing employees is sometimes necessary for growth.(15:41) Hiring Right and Protecting Culture* The importance of hiring competitive people and quickly addressing poor fits.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. At The Table is a podcast that lives at the connection between work life, leadership, organizational health, and culture. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4l1aop0), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth and http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni.Be sure to check out our other podcast, The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4iGGm8u), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via podcast@tablegroup.com. This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.

What makes galvanizing more disruptive than other Working Geniuses?In episode 93 of the Working Genius Podcast, Pat and Cody explore why galvanizing is the most disruptive of all the Working Geniuses. They unpack the nature of galvanizing as the only Genius that necessarily involves moving others, making it uniquely powerful—and often misunderstood. Through stories and reflection, they highlight the challenges and the essential value of galvanizers in any team or organization.Topics explored in this episode: (0:40) Why Galvanizing Disrupts by Nature* Unlike other Geniuses, galvanizing cannot happen in isolation—it always affects others.(4:33) Galvanizing * People with galvanizing as a frustration often avoid rallying others or making requests.* Teams without galvanizers struggle to gain momentum.(7:25) Real-Life Galvanizing* Cody shares a college story of galvanizing classmates.* Even unpopular actions can be valuable when driven by a galvanizing instinct.(11:14) Galvanizing Paired with Other Geniuses* Adding G to any Genius makes the combination more action-oriented.* Certain Genius pairings, like IG or GT, can help breakthrough change.(15:03) Leading and Conviction* Sometimes conviction or leadership can be mistaken for galvanizing.This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you're able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://www.workinggenius.com/about/assessment Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4iGGm8u), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth and http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial. Connect with Cody Thompson https://www.linkedin.com/in/cody-thompson-a5918850. Be sure to check out our other podcast, At The Table with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4l1aop0), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Let us know your feedback...

How can leaders resist the ego-inflation that comes with praise and status?In episode 248 of At The Table, Pat and Cody reflect on the viral Coldplay kiss cam scandal—not to sensationalize it, but to draw important leadership lessons from it. They explore the dangers of ego, power, and isolation for leaders, particularly those who fail to stay grounded in their home life and faith.Topics explored in this episode: (0:56) When Praise Becomes Poison* Why the Coldplay incident is more than just clickbait—it's a cautionary tale.(6:44) How Leaders Lose Their Way* "Reward-centered" versus "responsibility-centered" leadership mindsets.* Leaders often start believing praise, inflating their sense of entitlement.(9:08) Home vs. Work* Praise and affirmation at work can distort leaders' expectations at home.* Leaders become vulnerable when they fail to invest emotionally in their families.(14:20) Guardrails and Hard Truths* Say out loud that your family is more important than work—and mean it.(20:26) Building a Life That's Enough* Practical ways to reconnect with your spouse and share a vision at home.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. At The Table is a podcast that lives at the connection between work life, leadership, organizational health, and culture. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4l1aop0), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth and http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial. Connect with Cody Thompson https://www.linkedin.com/in/cody-thompson-a5918850. Be sure to check out our other podcast, The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4iGGm8u), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via podcast@tablegroup.com. This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.

Are you unintentionally discouraging others by calling something “easy”?In episode 92 of the Working Genius Podcast, Pat and Cody explore the pitfalls of assuming that what's easy and fun for you will be the same for others. They explore how working within your genius can make tasks feel effortless and how this can mislead us when advising or leading others. This episode is a reminder to value your own strengths and to honor the differences in how others are wired.Topics explored in this episode: (00:00) The Myth of Easy and Fun* Pat shares a story about someone saying a college major was “easy and fun” without considering individual differences.* The idea that what's easy within your genius can be misleading for others.(03:18) Why 'Easy' Can Hurt* Labeling tasks as “easy” can unintentionally demotivate or discourage others who struggle.* People may feel inadequate or undervalued when they can't replicate what seems effortless to someone else.(06:29) Practice vs. Joy* Mastery alone doesn't lead to fulfillment if you're not working in your genius.* Pat reflects on writing as a gift and contrasts it with skills he's developed that still feel like a chore.(09:29) Self-Awareness and Respecting Differences* How practicing wonder isn't fulfilling for Cody even if he gets better at it.* The need to avoid pushing people into roles they're not wired for.(13:01) Real-World Consequences* Misjudging others' working genius can lead to years stuck in an unfulfilling career.* Parenting and workplace examples that show how important it is to honor different gifts.This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you're able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://www.workinggenius.com/about/assessment Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4iGGm8u), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth and http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial. Connect with Cody Thompson https://www.linkedin.com/in/cody-thompson-a5918850. Be sure to check out our other podcast, At The Table with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (

Why might being “cool” make someone a dangerous person to work for? And why are some of the greatest leaders uncool? In episode 247 of At The Table, Pat and Cody challenge the cultural obsession with being “cool” and examine how it can corrupt leadership. Using a global study that defined six traits of coolness—especially “powerful” and “hedonistic”—they reveal how these values run counter to responsible leadership. Through stories, examples, and hard truths, they make the case that great leaders are often deeply uncool—and that's precisely what makes them trustworthy.Topics Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson explore in this episode: (3:39) The Six Traits of Cool* The hosts list the six cool traits: adventurous, autonomous, open, extroverted, powerful, and hedonistic.* Pat expresses deep concern about “powerful” and “hedonistic” being celebrated.(6:53) Cool Traits* Cody and Pat analyze “open,” “autonomous,” and “adventurous” as potentially valid for leaders.* They debate whether extroversion belongs in either coolness or leadership.(10:28) Why Hedonism and Power Don't Belong* Why hedonism contradicts servant leadership.* The trap of confusing likability or popularity with effectiveness.(16:25) The Dangers of Hiring Cool Leaders* How boards and teams often choose “cool” over capable.* Flipping the script—celebrating uncool, authentic leaders.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. At The Table is a podcast that lives at the connection between work life, leadership, organizational health, and culture. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4l1aop0), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth and http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial. Connect with Cody Thompson at https://www.linkedin.com/in/cody-thompson-a5918850. Be sure to check out our other podcast, The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4iGGm8u), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via podcast@tablegroup.com. This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.

What makes the Genius of Enablement (“E”) such a crucial part of team implementation?Episode 91 of the Working Genius Podcast dives into the Enablement Genius with guest Tracy Noble, Chief Development Officer at The Table Group. Pat, Cody, and Tracy explore the subtle power of Enablement—how it brings relational glue to implementation and drives team cohesion. They also unpack the differences between Enablement and people-pleasing, and how to regulate Enablement without shutting it down.Topics explored in this episode: (0:52) The Complexity of Enablement* Tracy describes how her Discernment constantly informs her Enablement.* How Enablement is often misunderstood.* Enablement goes far beyond just being helpful or friendly.(4:35) Implementation, Not Just Helping* Enablement starts implementation with people, not tasks.* Teams without E often operate in silos.(9:09) Virtue Versus Genius* Enablement isn't the same as kindness—it can be self-serving in a good way.* Tracy shares why Enablement energizes her when it serves others.(13:44) Enablement in Action * Enablement plays out in both personal moments and strategic leadership.(17:21) Regulating the E* Even Geniuses need regulation—especially Enablement.* Recognizing when Discernment is needed over Enablement.Thanks to Tracy Noble for being on the show! Connect with Tracy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tracy-noble-025b40a/ This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you're able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://www.workingGenius.com/about/assessment Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4iGGm8u), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth and http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial. Connect with Cody Thompson https://www.linkedin.com/in/cody-thompson-a5918850. Be sure to check out our other podcast, At The Table with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify

How does the broader culture of your location influence your organization's internal culture?In episode 246 of At The Table, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson explore how meta-culture—the broader geographic or societal environment—shapes the internal culture of organizations. From experiences at the DMV to moving company headquarters, they share insights on how values interact with location. Topics explored in this episode: (2:44) Organizational Culture Exists Within a Larger Culture* The macro culture of a city or state can either support or resist company values.* Remote work and multiple locations complicate maintaining a cohesive culture.(6:15) Moving Your Company* Leaders should consider not just financials but cultural fit when moving.* The meta-culture can affect hiring, operations, and team morale.* Certain locations make it easier to find people who reflect your values.* Some environments create cultural friction, while others foster cohesion.(9:35) Navigating Meta-Culture* Leaders should actively ask how geography is influencing their organization.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. At The Table is a podcast that lives at the connection between work life, leadership, organizational health, and culture. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4l1aop0), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth and http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial. Connect with Cody Thompson https://www.linkedin.com/in/cody-thompson-a5918850. Be sure to check out our other podcast, The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4iGGm8u), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via podcast@tablegroup.com. This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.

Patrick Lencioni: The 6 Types of Working Genius Patrick Lencioni is founder and president of The Table Group, a firm dedicated to protecting human dignity in the world of work, personal development, and faith. Pat is the author of twelve best-selling books with over seven million copies sold. The Five Dysfunctions of a Team remains a national best-seller and he's also the author of The 6 Types of Working Genius: A Better Way to Understand Your Gifts, Your Frustrations, and Your Team. Many of us have heard the invitation from Jim Collin's book _Good to Great_ to get the right people on the bus. But once the right people are on the bus, how to do you find the right seat for each person? On this episode, Pat and I discuss how to utilize the Working Genius model to find the right work for the right team members. Key Points When addressing burnout, the type of work someone does is more significant than the volume of work. Three stages of work are present for almost every team: ideation, activation, and implementation. A cup of coffee in an excellent thermos can stay hot an entire day — that's true of us when we're aligned with our working geniuses. Finding the right work for a team member is far easier than finding the right person culturally. Before you look elsewhere, be sure they are in the right seat. To fill gaps in your team's geniuses, you can hire, borrow, or find people where competence will suffice for now. Resist the temptation to immediately jump to hiring. Resources Mentioned The 6 Types of Working Genius assessment The 6 Types of Working Genius: A Better Way to Understand Your Gifts, Your Frustrations, and Your Team by Patrick Lencioni Interview Notes Download my interview notes in PDF format (free membership required). Related Episodes How to Get the Ideal Team Player, with Patrick Lencioni (episode 301) How to Lead an Offsite, with Tom Henschel (episode 377) The Mindset Leaders Need to Address Burnout, with Christina Maslach(episode 609) Discover More Activate your free membership for full access to the entire library of interviews since 2011, searchable by topic. At an inflection point? Request an invitation to apply for the Coaching for Leaders Academy in September.

How can recognizing the “lowercase” application of your Working Genius improve your contributions to projects and increase your job fulfillment?In episode 90 of the Working Genius Podcast, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson explore the distinction between “uppercase” and “lowercase” expressions of the six Working Geniuses. Joined by Matt Lencioni, they unpack how to apply your genius even when it's not the dominant need in a situation. Topics explored in this episode: (0:53) Introducing Uppercase and Lowercase Genius* Using your genius in its "uppercase" glory or a "lowercase" supportive capacity.(4:34) Applying Genius in Different Contexts* Examples of uppercase geniuses, like a "Wonder" (W) initiating a new project or an "Inventor" (I) developing a new product.* How lowercase W or I contributes to a launch meeting by wondering and inventing within the launch's context.(8:16) Self-Regulation and Team Trust* The difference between unhelpfully disruptive uppercase contributions and service-oriented lowercase ones.(12:55) Shared Language * Applying lowercase genius to prevent individuals from dominating.* How Working Genius provides a shared language for feedback, fostering trust.* Knowing one another's working geniuses allows for intentional delegation and contribution, leading to greater joy and fulfillment.A note for new listeners/viewers: In this episode, Pat and Cody dive deep into the Six Types of Working Genius, a model that helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. If you're new to our framework, perhaps consider checking out some earlier episodes of The Working Genius Podcast. Or, if you're interested, you can take The Six Types of Working Genius assessment, which is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://www.workinggenius.com/about/assessment Refresher: The initials discussed in this episode refer to: W = Wonder. I = Invention.D = Discernment.G = Galvanizing.E = Enablement.T = Tenacity.This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you're able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://www.workinggenius.com/about/assessment Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4iGGm8u), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on

Patrick Lencioni Founder of The Table Group. TG focus is on leading a movement to make organizational health a reality in companies and organizations everywhere. That's because we are utterly convinced that a healthy organization achieves greater results, builds a more loyal customer base, and develops fulfilled employees.What I learned in my conversation with Pat:How Pat and his wife Laura grow their marriage through long drives together. Be responsive to the voice of God and the Holy Spirit will lead you. Learning to respond in a way that is alignment with him and your gifting will lead you to flourish. How achievers and pleasers may not even be aware of their dark side because it gets rewarded in our organizations.The simple truths are the foundations of healthy organizations and a thriving life.The false narrative that exists when high performance is only measuring external outcomes. The addiction of high performers to please others is a dangerous path. Be excellent at your job and allow the joy of Jesus to be the overflow.Learn about yourself through assessments, coaching, and get curious about the behaviors that are not consistent with the gifts that God gives you. Pray regularly and pause throughout the day to delight in the one who created you.--Are you reaching your full potential as a leader?To start working with Lantz as your professional coach, take the free assessment at www.lantzhoward.com --If you found this encouraging please share with a friend you care about and leave a review to help others find the path the show. --Follow Lantz on LinkedIn.

What are some universal traits of successful leaders that any leader in any field can emulate? In episode 245 of At The Table, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson reflect on a remarkable leader they consider one of the greatest CEOs they've encountered—Tony Mazzella of Mazzella Companies. Tony's approach to leadership is rooted in humility, deep responsibility, and a relentless desire to learn, all without seeking fame or recognition. This conversation breaks down the traits that make a truly great CEO, far beyond what the public eye ever sees.Topics explored in this episode: (2:42) Humility in Action* Tony's humility is evident in how he shares credit and doesn't perform for attention.(5:50) Identity & Integrity* Tony's peace stems from knowing his identity isn't tied to performance.(8:06) Responsibility and Motive* Tony makes tough calls because he cares deeply for people; there's no entitlement—just ownership of his role.(10:28) Curiosity & Continued Growth* Tony proactively pursued his Working Genius certification.(13:41) Organizational Health * True heroes of organizational health are the leaders who consistently put in the hard work of implementation.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. At The Table is a podcast that lives at the connection between work life, leadership, organizational health, and culture. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4l1aop0), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth and http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial. Connect with Cody Thompson https://www.linkedin.com/in/cody-thompson-a5918850. Be sure to check out our other podcast, The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4iGGm8u), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via podcast@tablegroup.com. This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.

How often do you assume someone's behavior is a flaw in their character instead of a feature of their genius?In episode 89 of the Working Genius Podcast, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson unpack the “Fundamental Attribution Error” and how it damages relationships at work and at home. They explain how people often misjudge each other's actions as flaws rather than features of their unique Working Genius. By walking through all six Geniuses, the hosts show how greater understanding can lead to less guilt, less judgment, and better collaboration.Topics explored in this episode: (0:35) Understanding the Attribution Trap* The fundamental attribution error leads us to blame others' character while excusing our own behavior.* Working Genius helps reframe annoying behaviors as strengths expressed out of context.(5:35) Wonder and Invention* Wonderers can be misjudged as unfocused, skeptical, or afraid to commit due to their questioning nature.* Inventors might be seen as flaky, ego-driven, undisciplined, or impatient due to their constant flow of new ideas.(12:38) Discernment and Galvanizing* Discerners are often misjudged as overly judgmental due to their evaluative nature.* Galvanizers can be perceived as overly enthusiastic, insincere, or bossy.(21:26) Enablement and Tenacity* People with enablement might be seen as unwilling to say no or even dishonest due to their eagerness to help and affirm.* People with tenacity can be unfairly seen as unsympathetic or afraid to fail because of their focus on finishing tasks.This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you're able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://www.workinggenius.com/about/assessment Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4iGGm8u), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth and http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial. Connect with Cody Thompson https://www.linkedin.com/in/cody-thompson-a5918850. Be sure to check out our other podcast, At The Table with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (

Are you missing out on innovation because you're avoiding discomfort? How can you embrace the tension that's required for innovation? In episode 244 of At The Table, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson explore the crucial link between tension and innovation. They argue that real creativity requires discomfort—whether from interpersonal friction or environmental urgency. Through personal stories and business examples, they offer practical ways to embrace conflict and drive change before crisis strikes.Topics explored in this episode: (1:14) Tension Can Be Beneficial* Innovation is universally desired but rarely pursued.* True creativity demands both environmental and interpersonal tension.* Most teams avoid conflict until a crisis forces change.(3:52) Manufacturing Tension and Creativity* Cody discusses how companies often manufacture environmental tension to force innovation, especially when complacency sets in. * Pat connects innovation to creativity, drawing on his experience as an author and screenwriter. (9:17) Does Every Business Need to Innovate?* Innovation applies to all types of companies in different ways.* Entrepreneurs often thrive on tension, but most leaders need to learn it.(14:15) Manufacturing Urgency* Crises like COVID accelerate innovation by necessity.* Teams can simulate pressure by setting rallying cries or tight timelines.(19:24) Fear or Joy Can Drive Innovation * A team's willingness to engage in healthy conflict is directly tied to innovation potential.* The best employees crave meaningful tension and will leave if it's missing.Resources mentioned in this episode: * Only the Paranoid Survive: How to Exploit the Crisis Points That Challenge Every Company, a book by Andrew S. Grove. This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. At The Table is a podcast that lives at the connection between work life, leadership, organizational health, and culture. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4l1aop0), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth and http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial. Connect with Cody Thompson https://www.linkedin.com/in/cody-thompson-a5918850. Be sure to check out our other podcast, The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4iGGm8u), and YouTube (

How can your understanding of Myers-Briggs add to your Working Genius? In episode 88 of the Working Genius Podcast, Pat and Cody dive into the relationship between Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI) and the Six Types of Working Genius. They explore how MBTI describes who you are (the noun), while Working Genius describes what you do best (the verb). Through examples and insights, they show how combining both tools can improve self-awareness, team collaboration, and career decisions.Topics explored in this episode: (00:40) Nouns vs. Verbs: The Core Difference* MBTI describes your personality preferences—the "noun" of who you are.* Working Genius identifies the activities you love—the "verb" of what you do.(04:30) A Crash Course in MBTI* The four MBTI dimensions: E/I, N/S, T/F, and J/P.* How these traits affect decision-making and communication.(7:31) No Overlap, But Total Alignment* Working Genius and MBTI have no direct correlation—and that's a strength.* Personal anecdotes show how people with the same MBTI have different Working Geniuses.* The pairing of both tools unlocks richer insight into how someone works and thrives.(18:59) Real Examples* Stories from The Table Group that contrast MBTI and Working Genius. .(24:46) Advanced Nuance and Practical Use* The concept of a "secondary MBTI type."This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you're able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://www.workinggenius.com/about/assessment Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4iGGm8u), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth and http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial. Connect with Cody Thompson https://www.linkedin.com/in/cody-thompson-a5918850. Be sure to check out our other podcast, At The Table with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4l1aop0), and YouTube (

In this episode of Uncover the Human, Cristina and Alex chat with Matt Ley—consultant, former pastor, and author of Manager Gaps: Reclaiming the Awesomeness of Management. Matt shares lessons from his diverse career path and how it shaped his view on the critical, often overlooked role of middle management.Matt explains that great managers do more than delegate—they multiply value, build culture, and support people through clarity, communication, consistency, and care. He goes into the importance “fulfillment ROI” and how leveraging the Six Types of Working Genius model by the Table Group shows how energy and strengths can be aligned to make work more sustainable and joyful.With humor and sharp metaphors (including a tubing analogy you won't forget), Matt helps reframe management as a human-centered craft. He warns against “golden rule burnout” and encourages practicing the “platinum rule”—leading people based on their needs and strengths.Whether you're a new manager or a senior leader rethinking your org design, this episode offers practical insight into what it really means to support others—and yourself—at work.

Why do so many successful leaders struggle with the feeling of "not being enough"? And how can leaders shift away from a scarcity mindset?In episode 243 of At The Table, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson explore the pervasive feeling of inadequacy among leaders. They discuss how a "not enough" mindset can drive individuals to seek validation through constant achievement. The conversation emphasizes the importance of vulnerability, self-awareness, and shifting from a fear-based to a joy-based approach to life and work.Topics explored in this episode: (0:49) The Prevalence of "I'm Not Enough"* Many leaders share a common feeling of inadequacy, often tracing it back to their youth. * This feeling can create a cycle of constantly striving to prove yourself, hindering your ability to find satisfaction in accomplishments. (5:04) The Impact of Vulnerability* Sharing your feelings of inadequacy with others can normalize these experiences, encouraging them to acknowledge their own struggles and seek support. (9:07) The Scarcity Mindset* Believing "I'm not enough" can lead to a scarcity mindset, affecting your perceptions of time, success, and resources. (14:23) The Illusion of Control* The pursuit of control over outcomes can lead to anxiety and prevent you from embracing the present moment. (18:36) Finding Peace in the Journey* Reframing your perspective can help you foster a sense of peace. * Embracing the journey and finding joy in the process can lead to greater fulfillment than solely focusing on the result.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. At The Table is a podcast that lives at the connection between work life, leadership, organizational health, and culture. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4l1aop0), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth and http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial. Connect with Cody Thompson https://www.linkedin.com/in/cody-thompson-a5918850. Be sure to check out our other podcast, The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4iGGm8u), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via podcast@tablegroup.com. This episode was produced by Story On Media:

How can understanding and embracing your Working Genius help you redefine your concept of “work” and “retirement”?In episode 87 of the Working Genius Podcast, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson take on the increasingly common desire to quit work or retire early, questioning whether it's truly the job people want to escape—or the lack of fulfillment in how they work. Pat and Cody also explore how Working Genius can offer clarity and help people rediscover joy and meaning in their work. Topics explored in this episode: (00:00) Rethinking the Desire to Quit* How many people want to quit their jobs or retire early, yet the issue often isn't the job itself but a misalignment with a person's genius.(03:15) What Retirement Is Really About* Unpacking cultural assumptions about retirement and how it often becomes a symbol of freedom.* Pat warns that early retirement can be a form of escapism that leads to purposelessness.(06:24) The Role of Working Genius in Fulfillment* Working Genius can help you diagnose dissatisfaction at work.* Cody encourages people to use their genius as a compass, not a constraint.(09:54) The Gift of Work* The hosts reflect on how work is meant to be a gift, not a punishment.* Leaders are encouraged to help others find purpose in their work by matching genius to roles.(13:14) The Real Cost of Quitting* Quitting or retiring too early can rob people of meaningful impact.This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you're able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://www.workinggenius.com/about/assessment Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4iGGm8u), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth and http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial. Connect with Cody Thompson https://www.linkedin.com/in/cody-thompson-a5918850. Be sure to check out our other podcast, At The Table with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4l1aop0), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via podcast@tablegroup.com. This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.

How do we as business leaders not be discouraged by hard times and instead see the good that can result from them? In episode 242 of At The Table, Patrick Lencioni welcomes legendary financial expert and leadership voice Dave Ramsey for an unfiltered conversation about hard times. As Pat mentions in the intro, this is not your average interview. They discuss the current economic and cultural moment, explore the importance of values-based leadership, and call out the failures of transactional mindsets. This episode challenges leaders to hold the line on integrity, even—and especially—when things get tough.Topics explored in this episode: (2:46) The Ubiquity of Adversity* Leaders should expect to face new forms of adversity as they grow their business. * Adversity can distort one's perception, making challenges seem more overwhelming than they are. (8:24) The Genesis of a Calling* How Dave's bankruptcy led him to discover his calling in helping others manage their finances. * Helping others through hardship can transform personal struggles into a meaningful career. (17:24) Developing Resilience* How previous challenges can build resilience and provide perspective on current difficulties. * Leaders must work through challenges rather than avoid them. (22:50) Navigating the Stages of Business* Dave outlines the five stages of business growth: treadmill, pathfinder, trailblazer, peak performer, and legacy. * Each stage presents unique challenges and requires different strategies for success and progression. (31:09) Continuous Learning* Effective leaders are lifelong learners who integrate insights from various sources and generously credit others.Thanks to Dave Ramsey for being on the show! Learn more about Dave and his company Ramsey Solutions: https://www.ramseysolutions.com/ Follow Dave on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ramsey-dave/ Get Dave's books mentioned in this episode: * Build a Business You Love: Mastering the Five Stages of Business: https://store.ramseysolutions.com/business-and-career/books/build-a-business-you-love-by-dave-ramsey/ * EntreLeadership: 20 Years of Practical Business Wisdom from the Trenches: https://store.ramseysolutions.com/business-and-career/books/entreleadership/ This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. At The Table is a podcast that lives at the connection between work life, leadership, organizational health, and culture. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4l1aop0), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Follow Pat...

What does “preemptive vulnerability” mean, why is it essential in leadership, and how can it build trust within a team?In episode 86 of the Working Genius Podcast, Patrick and Cody explore the concept of "preemptive vulnerability"—the practice of leading with humility before you're forced to. They reflect on how leaders can build deeper trust and connection by proactively admitting weaknesses, asking for help, and owning mistakes. With real-life examples and signature humor, they unpack how this small but courageous step can change everything for teams.Topics explored in this episode: (00:36) Why Vulnerability Matters More Than Ever* How some leaders wait for a fall from grace before showing humility.* Vulnerability, when modeled early, builds lasting trust and safety.(06:33) The Power of Going First* Why we appreciate leaders who admit flaws before they're exposed.(13:12) The Psychology Behind Vulnerability in Leadership* Pat compares preemptive vulnerability to a “hack” that bypasses defensiveness.* Leaders who go first create a ripple effect across their teams.(20:14) Real-World Examples * Pat and Cody talk about CEOs who earned loyalty by owning their shortcomings early.(27:30) What You Can Do Today* Simple starting points for practicing preemptive vulnerability.This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you're able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://www.workinggenius.com/about/assessment Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4iGGm8u), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth and http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial. Connect with Cody Thompson https://www.linkedin.com/in/cody-thompson-a5918850. Be sure to check out our other podcast, At The Table with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4l1aop0), and YouTube (

What happens when the external validation of your success conflicts with your internal values and purpose? In episode 241 of At The Table, Pat Lencioni and Cody Thompson explore the hidden dangers of traditional success metrics. They also discuss how businesses and individuals can lose their way when they chase recognition that doesn't align with their original purpose.Topics explored in this episode: (0:40) The Michelin Star Story* How a small restaurant in Italy gave up its Michelin star to stay true to its identity.(4:51) Aligning Success With Intentions* Why companies lose their way when they follow external expectations.* The importance of anchoring decisions to the question: "Why do we exist?"(8:46) Success and Personal Growth* Arthur Brooks' wisdom about valuing the process over outcomes.* How personal definitions of success change over time, especially in creative fields.(13:02) The Cost of Chasing the Wrong Goals* How woundedness can drive people to seek approval through achievements.* Reflections on athletes and leaders who chose integrity over external trophies.* Why true success means being proud of who you're becoming, not just what you achieve.(17:53) Staying Grounded Amid Temptation* Lessons from early Table Group decisions to resist the IPO craze.* The ultimate call to stick to your "why" for lasting fulfillment.Books mentioned in this episode: * Unreasonable Hospitality by Will Guidara.* The Advantage: Why Organizational Health Trumps Everything Else In Business by Patrick Lencioni.* From Strength to Strength by Arthur Brooks.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. At The Table is a podcast that lives at the connection between work life, leadership, organizational health, and culture. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4l1aop0), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth and http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial. Connect with Cody Thompson https://www.linkedin.com/in/cody-thompson-a5918850. Be sure to check out our other podcast, The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4iGGm8u), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via

Patrick Lencioni is co-founder and President of The Table Group and is the pioneer of the organizational health movement. He is the author of 13 books, which have sold over 8 million copies and been translated into more than 30 languages. As President of the Table Group, Pat spends his time speaking and writing about leadership, teamwork, and organizational health and consulting with executives and their teams. Prior to founding the firm in 1997, Pat worked at Bain & Company, Oracle Corporation and Sybase. On this classic episode, his second appearance on ⁠the Elevate Podcast⁠, Patrick returned to the show to discuss the role company leaders should play in sociopolitical issues, how to set proper expectations with employees and customers about where a company stands on social issues, and why leaning on values is as crucial as ever in leadership today. Special Thanks to the Sponsors of the Elevate Podcast Shopify: Sign up for your $1/month trial period at ⁠shopify.com/elevate⁠ Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at ⁠Indeed.com/elevate⁠. NPM Tech Unheard Podcast: Tune into Tech Unheard from Arm and NPM—wherever you get your podcasts. Northwest Registered Agent: Don't wait—protect your privacy, build your brand, and set up your business in just 10 clicks and 10 minutes! Visit ⁠https://northwestregisteredagent.com/elevate⁠ today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Why is it dangerous to "fake it till you make it" when it comes to your Working Genius?In episode 85 of the Working Genius Podcast, Pat and Cody explore the pitfalls of "faking it till you make it," particularly in the context of the six Working Geniuses. They discuss how pretending to possess certain geniuses—especially Galvanizing, Enabling, and Tenacity—can lead to burnout and dissatisfaction, even if it seems successful in the short term. They also emphasize the importance of aligning work with your natural geniuses for long-term fulfillment and success. Topics explored in this episode: (00:51) Faking It Undermines Team Trust* Faking a role outside your genius may temporarily fool others but drains energy and joy.(3:48) When Observation Misleads* People often mistake visible productivity for true capability and fulfillment.* Internal processes like Discerning or Inventing can't be copied just by watching someone do the work.(7:36) Success in the Wrong Game* Achieving mastery in an area outside your genius often leads to burnout, not true fulfillment.* Mimicking Tenacity or Enablement might bring professional praise but leaves people feeling empty.(11:24) Misalignment at Work* Many early career roles overvalue G.E.T. work, unintentionally alienating people with W.I.D. geniuses.* Discovering the Working Genius framework helps reframe these challenges as fixable, not personal flaws.(15:12) The Cost of Faking It* People often carry unnecessary guilt when they struggle in roles that don't match their genius.* Leaders can free people from burnout by helping them realign with their natural gifts.A note for new listeners/viewers: In this episode, Pat and Cody dive deep into the Six Types of Working Genius, a model that helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. If you're new to our framework, perhaps consider checking out some earlier episodes of The Working Genius Podcast. Or, if you're interested, you can take The Six Types of Working Genius assessment, which is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://www.workinggenius.com/about/assessment Refresher: The initials discussed in this episode refer to: W = Wonder. I = Invention.D = Discernment.G = Galvanizing.E = Enablement.T = Tenacity.This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4iGGm8u), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth/ and http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial.Connect with Cody Thompson on

Why is it so difficult to reform government inefficiencies? And what can organizations and households learn from eliminating waste in large, public institutions? In episode #240 of At The Table, Pat and Cody explore the concept of government efficiency through the lens of organizational health. Drawing comparisons between the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), the federal government, and dysfunctional teams, they highlight the painful necessity of accountability and cutting waste. Topics explored in this episode: (01:04) Reframing DOGE * The goal is to explore waste and accountability without partisan heat, looking instead at structure and culture.(6:09) Government vs. Private Sector* The federal government is not set up to be a team like private sector organizations.(10:47) The Storage Unit Analogy* Cody shares a story of trying to help a hoarder consolidate two storage units, which becomes a metaphor for government systems that resist change.(15:24) Accountability * Leadership requires doing what is right, even when it's unpopular or emotionally difficult.(20:44) Mistakes Will Happen* Even a well-intentioned cleanup will result in some regrettable losses.* Without a willingness to risk minor mistakes, the entire system remains unsustainable.(25:31) DOGE in Your Organization* The hosts discuss applying DOGE at the Table Group. * Even healthy organizations benefit from periodically eliminating waste.This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. At The Table is a podcast that lives at the connection between work life, leadership, organizational health, and culture. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube. Follow Pat Lencioni on LinkedIn and YouTube. Connect with Cody Thompson on LinkedIn. Be sure to check out our other podcast, The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube. Let us know your feedback via podcast@tablegroup.com. This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co/

How does humility enhance the application of your Working Geniuses in both personal and professional settings?Humility is the secret ingredient that elevates teamwork, leadership, and productivity. In this episode, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson explore how humility acts as a booster within the Working Genius framework. They also discuss why embracing humility allows you to work more effectively within your strengths while also building stronger, more cohesive teams.Topics explored in this episode: (02:15) What is Humility? * Humility enhances an individual's ability to utilize their natural talents.(11:40) Why Humility Matters * Leaders who embrace humility build stronger, more resilient teams.(21:05) Team Collaboration* Teams with humility communicate more openly and work through challenges effectively.(30:50) Recognizing the Absence of Humility* A lack of humility leads to dysfunction and conflict within teams.(41:30) Cultivating Humility* Simple steps individuals and teams can take to develop humility.(50:10) Humility in Organizations* How organizations can embed humility into hiring, training, and leadership development.This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you're able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work.Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube. Follow Pat Lencioni on LinkedIn and YouTube. Connect with Cody Thompson on LinkedIn. Be sure to check out our other podcast, At The Table with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts, Spotfy, and YouTube. Let us know your feedback via podcast@tablegroup.com. This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co/

How can we start to address unresolved challenges in our lives that impact people profoundly and sometimes in painful ways? In this episode, Patrick Lencioni and Cody Thompson discuss the podcast's return after a six-month break, and a shift in content to include broader societal and cultural issues. Pat also shares his personal journey of self-discovery, focusing on addressing his own wounds and trauma, and explores how this deeply personal work relates to leadership and organizational health.Topics explored in this episode: * (8:04) The Impact of Wounds on Leadership* How fear can drive leaders. * (11:58) The Catalyst for Self-Discovery* Pat's realization that running from his issues was more painful than confronting them. * The temptation to deny your own wounds. * (16:34) The Universality of Wounds* Everyone has wounds, such as neglect, shame, rejection, and abandonment. * Healing is a lifelong process. * (21:14) Encouraging Healing* Addressing wounds sooner rather than later. This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. Subscribe to At The Table on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube. Follow Pat Lencioni on LinkedIn and YouTube. Connect with Cody Thompson on LinkedIn. Do you know about our other podcast? You can subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube. Let us know your feedback on this episode via podcast@tablegroup.com.This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co/

In today's episode, we uncover the secrets of leadership and team dynamics with Patrick Lencioni, a renowned expert in organizational health and teamwork. As the founder and president of The Table Group, Patrick has spent decades helping leaders build stronger organizations through practical tools and strategies. He's the author of numerous bestselling books, including The Five Dysfunctions of a Team and his latest, The Six Types of Working Genius: A Better Way to Understand Your Gifts, Your Frustrations, and Your Team.  Get ready for an eye-opening conversation with Patrick Lencioni as he unpacks the powerful framework behind The Six Types of Working Genius. What if the key to unlocking your true potential—and that of your team—lies in understanding the types of work that energize and frustrate you? Patrick shares his groundbreaking model for identifying your natural talents, improving collaboration, and reducing burnout in every aspect of life, from your career to your relationships. We'll explore how these six types of genius impact team dynamics, decision-making, and personal growth, and how embracing your strengths can lead to greater productivity and fulfillment. Whether you're a leader or simply looking to work smarter, this episode is packed with practical insights to help you thrive. What to Listen For Introduction – 00:00:34 What inspired Patrick Lencioni to develop The Six Types of Working Genius framework? How did personal struggles at work lead Patrick to uncover the six types of genius? Why understanding your working genius is crucial for building a fulfilling career and personal life. The Six Types of Working Genius Explained – 00:04:41 What are the six types of working genius, and how do they relate to the phases of any project? How can identifying your working frustrations help prevent burnout and dissatisfaction? Why does every successful team need a balance of all six geniuses? Applying Working Genius to Team Dynamics – 00:10:13 How can leaders use this framework to optimize team collaboration and performance? What steps can you take to identify and leverage each team member's genius? How did a real-world software company transform its innovation process using this model? Overcoming Miscommunication and Conflict – 00:19:33 How can understanding your working genius improve communication in personal relationships? What are the common misconceptions about other people's work styles, and how can this framework resolve them? Why do working frustrations often lead to conflict, and how can teams overcome this? Practical Applications Beyond the Workplace – 00:27:02 How can The Six Types of Working Genius help with tasks like planning a vacation or running a household? Why understanding your genius is the next evolution beyond love languages in personal relationships. How can couples use this framework to reduce stress and improve collaboration at home? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices