Podcasts about Dirty John

This week, Leonora is thrilled to welcome not one but TWO incredible multi-hyphenate artists and creators, Christina Moore and Missi Pyle, who also happen to be best friends and collaborators. Christina is an actor and writer whom you remember from Mad TV and That 70's Show… and a million other things, and who is now emerging as a powerhouse producer of films such as Lady Driver, Running Wild, and this year's A Hollywood Christmas. Missi is an actor, writer, and musician; you'll recognize her from Galaxy Quest, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Dirty John… and a million other things. These three old friends talk about career shifts, Missi and Christina's non-traditional routes to motherhood, why mamas make the best producers, and share some good old-fashioned Hollywood goss! Check out their TWO films premiering this holiday season! A Hollywood Christmas -- on HBO MAX - Dec 1st  Produced by Christina Moore / written by John Ducey / Starring Missi Pyle  Official Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpZXbCbJ6M0 https://www.hbomax.com/collections/holiday   I Believe in Santa -- on NETFLIX -- Dec 14th  Starring and produced by Christina Moore with a cameo by Missi Pyle  Official page/ trailer: https://www.netflix.com/search?q=I%20believe%20in%20santa%20&jbv=81477797

Scotland Yard and FBI trained crime analyst Laura Richards, host of the Crime Analyst podcast, co-host of Real Crime Profile and victim's advocate joins "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss her work in coercive control, the unsolved Colonial Parkway Murders and her new venture into motherhood. This is part 2 of 2 parts.Crime Analyst Podcast: https://www.crime-analyst.com/Real Crime Profile Podcast: https://www.realcrimeprofile.com/Paladin National Stalking Advocacy Service:https://www.victims-first.org.uk/crimes/paladin-national-stalking-advocacy-service/Follow Othram's DNA Solves: You can help solve a case. Help fund a case or contribute your DNA. Your support helps solve crimes, enable the identification of John & Jane Does, and bring closure to families. Joining is fast, secure, and easy.https://dnasolves.com/Join the discussion on our Mind Over Murder and Colonial Parkway Murders pages on Facebook.Mind Over Murder on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mindoverpodcastColonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 15,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCaseYou can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murdersMind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:https://www.spreaker.comNew Article in Virginia Gazette: 35 Years Later, Victims' Families in Colonial Parkway Murders Still Searching for Answers, Hope DNA AdJoin the discussion on our Mind Over Murder and Colonial Parkway Murders pages on Facebook.Mind Over Murder on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mindoverpodcastColonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 15,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCaseYou can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murdersMind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:https://www.spreaker.comNew Article in Virginia Gazette: 35 Years Later, Victims' Families in Colonial Parkway Murders Still Searching for Answers, Hope DNA Advances will Solve Case By Em Holter and Abigail Adcoxhttps://www.dailypress.com/virginiagazette/va-vg-colonial-parkway-murders-anniversary-1024-20211022-76jkpte6qvez7onybmhbhp7nfi-story.htmlNew Article in Medium: The Colonial Parkway Murders — A Tale of Two Killers? By Quinn Zanehttps://medium.com/unburied/the-colonial-parkway-murders-a-tale-of-two-killers-1e8fda367a48Washington Post: "Crimes of Passion"https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1997/08/15/crimes-of-passion/0a38e8f9-6d04-48e4-a847-7d3cba53c363/New feature article in the Daily Beast: "Inside the Maddening Search for Virginia's Colonial Parkway Serial Killer" By Justin Rohrlichhttps://www.thedailybeast.com/what-happened-to-cathleen-thomas-and-rebecca-dowski-inside-the-hunt-for-the-colonial-parkway-killerCitizens! Check out our new line of "Mind Over Murder" t-shirts and other good stuff !https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mind-over-murder-podcast?ref_id=23885Washington Post Op-Ed Piece by Deidre Enright of the Innocence Project:"The FBI should use DNA, not posters, to solve a cold-case murder" https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/25/julie-williams-laura-winans-unsolved-murder-test-dna/Oxygen: "Loni Coombs Feels A Kinship To 'Lovers' Lane' Victim Cathy Thomas"Loni Coombs felt an immediate connection to Cathy Thomas, a groundbreaking gay woman who broke through barriers at the U.S. Naval Academy before she was brutally murdered along the Colonial Parkway in Virginia.https://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/loni-coombs-feels-a-kinship-to-colonial-parkway-victim-cathy-thomasYou can contribute to help "Mind Over Murder" do our important work:https://mindovermurderpodcast.com/supportFour one-hour episodes on the Colonial Parkway Murders are available on Oxygen as "The Lover's Lane Murders." The series is available on the free Oxygen app, Hulu, YouTube, Amazon, and many other platforms. https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders Oxygen" "Who Were The Colonial Parkway Murder Victims? 8 Young People All Killed In Virginia Within 4 Years" https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders/crime-news/who-were-the-colonial-parkway-murder-victims Washington Post Magazine: "Victims, Families and America's Thirst for True-Crime Stories." "For Bill Thomas, his sister Cathy's murder is a deeply personal tragedy. For millions of true-crime fans, it's entertainment." https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/magazine/wp/2019/07/30/feature/victims-families-and-americas-thirst-for-true-crime-stories/Daily Press excellent series of articles on the Colonial Parkway Murders: "The Parkway" http://digital.dailypress.com/static/parkway_cottage/main/index.htmlColonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.comPlease subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. 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In the history of Off the Cuff, we've had some really remarkable people drop by to share their stories, experiences, and mental health journeys, all from a range of backgrounds and seasons of life. As we tap into some of Off the Cuff's best episodes, you'll hear snippets from Dr. Charles Corprew on toxic and conservative masculinity, Cooper Chapman on the pressure that can come with professional sports and performance, Hannah Berner on reality TV's impact on her mental health, Gianmarco Soresi on the current landscape of stand-up comedy, Terra Newell's experience with “Dirty John,” and Alyssa Cleland on para-equestrian sports and the disabled community.  These highlights are just the tip of the iceberg, so if you're new to Off The Cuff, you can find each episode on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. If you're a longtime listener, just sit back and enjoy some of our best moments.

Laura continues her conversation with Tonia Bales, John Meehan's first wife of 10 years. In part 2, Tonia details the night her world was shattered forever, when she accessed John's hard drive and read all his emails he had sent to other women - and men. John had feelings for another man, and whilst Tonia was desperately trying to fix her marriage, John was proactively pursuing him and others. We also discuss how John manipulated many people who were taken in by his charm and how they enabled John's behaviour. Tonia's case highlights how important it is to challenge the notion that an abuser's parental right is more important than a child's right to safety.  Tonia walks us back to her 23-year-old self and we unravel how Tonia was the perfect target for John, the red flags and what to look for to avoid a psychopath like Dirty John. You won't want to miss this. Trigger warning: Listener discretion is advised. This episode may be upsetting and/or triggering and it will be angry making.  Listen to Tonia and Laura's in-depth re-investigation ‘The First Wife: John Meehan's Reign of Terror' available only on Audible. https://www.audible.com/pd/The-First-Wife-John-Meehans-Reign-of-Terror-Podcast/B099BYMH4G #ToniaBales #TheFirstWife #Survivor #CrimeAnalyst #Expert #Analysis #Behaviour #TrueCrime #Podcast #DirtyJohn #MaleViolence #Femicide #CoerciveControl #DomesticAbuse #SerialPerpetrator #FamilyCourt Clips  https://extratv.com/videos/mmkj0lpuy4/ Thank you to my sponsor A.J.Rivers: If you are looking for a new book, listen to or read The Girl in Cabin 13 by A.J. Rivers, on Amazon, Audible or iTunes right now. Sign the Petition to Criminalize Coercive Control in America and Complete the Victim's Voice Survey: https://www.laurarichards.co.uk/dv-law-reform/ Crime Analyst Merch  https://crime-analyst.myshopify.com/ Leave a Review If you want to support my work and Crime Analyst and if you enjoyed this episode, please leave a 5-star review here: https://www.crime-analyst.com/reviews/new/

Laura interviews Tonia Bales, John Meehan's first wife of 10 years about her life with John. Tonia had two daughter's, Emily and Abigail, with John. Having listened to the podcast ‘Dirty John' and watched scripted Bravo show of the same name and the documentary ‘Dirty John the Dirty Truth' Tonia realized there was so much she did not know – and she and Laura wanted to go back and re-investigate John.  The re-investigation was documented in the eight-part investigative podcast, ‘The First Wife: John Meehan's Reign of Terror' (available only on Audible) and in this two-part series, Laura and Tonia go behind the scenes of the re-investigation and candidly debrief some of the astonishing revelations including one bombshell that has changed Tonia and her daughter's lives forever. Laura and Tonia also discuss how John tried to further control her using the Family Justice System, a system that seemed to back up and enable John at every turn, despite criminal investigations into John's behaviour and him going to prison.  You won't want to miss this. Trigger warning: Listener discretion is advised. This episode may be upsetting and/or triggering and it will be angry making.  You can follow Laura and her work on: Instagram @crimeanalyst @laurarichards999 TikTok @crimeanalystpod Twitter @thecrimeanalyst @laurarichards999 #ToniaBales #TheFirstWife #Survivor #CrimeAnalyst #Expert #Analysis #Behaviour #TrueCrime #Podcast #DirtyJohn #MaleViolence #Femicide #CoerciveControl #DomesticAbuse Clips https://variety.com/2021/tv/podcasts/dirty-john-podcast-the-first-wife-1235022802/ Sources https://www.audible.com/pd/The-First-Wife-John-Meehans-Reign-of-Terror-Podcast/B099BYMH4G Sign the Petition to Criminalize Coercive Control in America and Complete the Victim's Voice Survey: https://www.laurarichards.co.uk/dv-law-reform/ Crime Analyst Merch  https://crime-analyst.myshopify.com/ Leave a Review If you want to support my work and Crime Analyst and if you enjoyed this episode, please leave a 5-star review here: https://www.crime-analyst.com/reviews/new/

Whether you're single, dating, in a serious relationship, divorced, or have been married for years, you're probably familiar with the judgment and stigmas surrounding dating and one's relationship status in our society.For this episode we've invited our good friend Allison Melody on the mic to help us chat about relationships from a different perspective: that of a single woman who knows what she wants, and is not afraid to ask for it.Points Discussed in this Episode What Alli has learned from her life experiences, like going through a divorce, and what she has learned by allowing herself to be single The fear of being alone, loneliness, and the fear of judgment when it comes to relationships (or being single) Finding support through being open and vulnerable about what you're going through  What you put up with is what you end up with Establish your boundaries and values and don't be afraid to state those and stand by them - in every area of your life How do we know when it's time to move on? Alli describes two terms used a lot in the dating world: gaslighting and love-bombing The 5 Love Languages - which one is your love language? Mentioned in this episode:  Ingrid Bergman in the movie Gaslight (1944) Dirty John series on Netflix The 5 Love Languages by Dr. Gary Chapman Food Heals Podcast and website  Follow Alli on Instagram  If this convo brings up anything for you and you need further help, support, or guidance, check out these resources: Lifeline on 13 11 14 (Australia) Beyond Blue on 1300 22 46 36 (Australia) Headspace on 1 800 650 890 (USA) BetterHelp (USA) Asking for help shows strength.Thank you so much for joining us for this special feature episode with Allison Melody on what being single has taught her.Don't forget to follow or subscribe to Nicole & Kate Can Relate for more episodes like this one! Our mission with this podcast is to share a candid convo one time per week to help provide love, support, and space for women to share without judgment, speak without hesitation, and learn from each other - even when we don't agree.

On October 30, Collier said goodbye to the light of his life, constant companion, and chihuahua child Blondie. She was four months shy of her 18th birthday. While loss is something Collier has dealt with his entire life, this one has cut deep. In this special episode of Moving Past Murder, fellow True Crime advocates Terra Newell, Kelsi German, and Lenora Claire the importance of dogs in their lives and how our fur babies have allowed us to heal from the scars of trauma. •We begin with an interview with Kelsi German, whose sister Libby is one of two victims of the 2017 Delphi murders. After a 5 year investigation, suspect Richard Allen was arrested on October 31, 2022, in connection with the murder of Libby and her friend Abigail Williams. The interview is interrupted by Kelsi's dog, and Collier shares his recent loss of his beloved Blondie. •We segue into a discussion with Lenora Claire, the "Erin Brockovich of Stalking", who shares how dogs have played a massive part in her and other SA and stalking survivors' journey toward healing. •Terra Newell, the better half of the Survivor Squad podcast, shares how her dog Cash helped save her life from her attacker "Dirty John" Meehan. Link to episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/0wY6Ddf-zMs (https://youtu.be/0wY6Ddf-zMs) Follow Kelsi & justice for Libby and Abby on Twitter: @libertyg_sister Follow Lenora on Instagram: @lenoraclaire Follow Terra on Instagram: @terranewell Craving more behind the scenes, extra content, and interviews? Join my Patreon today! https://www.patreon.com/collierlandry (https://www.patreon.com/collierlandry) AFTER THE EPISODE LIVE Q&A with host Collier Landry! TUESDAY'S 11 am PT/2 pm ET on IG LIVE @collierlandry Follow Collier Landry on Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/collierlandry (http://www.instagram.com/collierlandry) Subscribe to my YouTube Channel http://www.youtube.com/collierlandry (http://www.youtube.com/collierlandry) Thanks for watching! Like what you see?

Terra Newell's name became nationally known after she killed her stepfather in self-defense; John Meehan known from Dirty John. Earlier this season, Terra's mother, Debra, came on the show and shared her experience during that tumultuous time. In this episode we hear directly from Terra who shares her point of view. While she experienced massive trauma, she learned how to heal and help others. Listen to part 1 to learn about Terra and fellow survivor Collier Landry's story. Host Information:  Instagram: Dr Ramani's IG - @doctorramani Facebook: Dr Ramani's FB - @doctorramani Twitter: Dr Ramani's TW - @DoctorRamani  YouTube: Dr. Ramani's YT - DoctorRamani Guest Information:  Terra Newell Instagram: Terra Newell's IG - @terranewell Facebook: Terra Newell's FB -Terra Newell Twitter: Terra Newell's TW - @terra_newell Collier Landry Instagram: Collier Landry's IG - @collierlandry Facebook: Collier Landry's FB - Collier Landry Twitter: Collier Landry's TW - @collierlandry YouTube: Collier Landry's YT - Collier Landry Guest Bios: Terra Newell has been called “one of the biggest bad asses of true crime.” She killed “dirty” John Meehan, a con-man and serial predator, in self-defense at age 25. Since then, she's shared her dramatic story on global platforms to raise awareness around domestic abuse. She is the heroine of episode six of the ​Dirty John ​podcast and has been interviewed for ​Dateline, Dirty John: The Dirty Truth, Dr. Oz, The Skinny Confidential, KTLA a​nd numerous additional outlets. She's currently working alongside fellow survivor Collier Landry with a new podcast, The Survivor Squad. Terra also loves to help others by coaching and advocating for victims. Collier is the creator and subject of the Discovery+ documentary A Murder in Mansfield.   He is the host of the Moving Past Murder podcast, and upcoming podcast Survivor Squad with co-host Terra Newell (Dirty John). #NavigatingNarcissism. I want to hear from you, too.  Have a toxic topic you want me to explore? Email me at askdrramani@redtabletalk.com. I just might answer you questions on air.  This podcast should not be used as a substitute for medical or mental health advice. Individuals are advised to seek independent medical advice, counseling, and/or therapy from a health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issue, or health inquiry, including matters discussed on this podcast. Navigating Narcissism is produced by Red Table Talk Podcasts. EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS: Jada Pinkett-Smith, Fallon Jethroe, Ellen Rakieten, and Dr. Ramani Durvasula. Also, PRODUCER: Matthew Jones, ASSOCIATE PRODUCER: Mara De La Rosa. EDITORS AND AUDIO MIXERS: Devin Donaghy and Calvin Bailiff.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Colton Haynes steps Behind The Rope. Colton is here to mention it all. Colton takes us on his journey from his early days in a small Kansas town to modeling at just sixteen for Abercrombie and Fitch to starring roles on two “teen dream” projects, Teen Wolf and Arrow, all while hiding his secret from the world that he was gay. Colton opens up about the industry's involvement in keeping him closeted, coming out, and all the anxiety, depression, addiction, self doubt, insecurity and family loss that went along, in his case, with that. Colton chats about coming out the other side, the effect that had on his career and where he stands with it all today. Colton also chats about his stellar recent project in Swinder Seduction, in which he plays crooked twin brothers who are romantic cons living off the women they fool and steal from. Dirty John and The Tinder Swindler ain't got nothing on Swindler Seduction. Finally, Colton chats about working with Ryan Murphy in AHS: Cult, the current state of being gay and out in Hollywood and his brilliant courageous memoir which captures this all, Miss Memory Lane. @coltonlhaynes @behindvelvetrope @davidyontef BONUS & AD FREE EPISODES Available at - www.patreon.com/behindthevelvetrope BROUGHT TO YOU BY: FIRSTLEAF - TryFirstleaf.com/VELVETROPE (Get 6 Bottles of Wine for $39.95 Plus Free Shipping) ORGANIFI - organifi.com/velvetrope (Use Code velvetrope at Checkout for 20% Off Your Entire Order) ETTITUDE - Ettitude.com/VelvetRope (Use Code VELVETROPE for 20% Off Your First Order) TALKSPACE - talkspace.com/velvet ($100 Off Your First Month) VH1's The Surreal Life (Premieres Monday October 24th at 9/8c) ADVERTISING INQUIRIES - Please contact David@advertising-execs.com MERCH Available at - https://www.teepublic.com/stores/behind-the-velvet-rope?ref_id=13198 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Official The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power Podcast unpacks the most exciting and surprising moments of every episode from Prime Video's ground-breaking new series. Host Felicia Day will share unique details and behind-the-scenes stories through unprecedented front-row access to the cast and crew, including the showrunners, J.D. Payne and Patrick McKay. Listen to all eight episodes of the official podcast for free on Amazon Music now: wondery.fm/TROP_us_hfd_wfd_1014. Download the Amazon Music app today.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In today's episode of Gemini Crime the Podcast, Kristal Yalitza will be interviewing Terra Newell. The interview will focus on how Terra used self-defense in order to survive her attacker, the importance of giving victims a voice, and why the term "Dirty John" shouldn't become the new norm.Terra's story has been featured in an LA Times Podcast titled Dirty John and was then sold to Bravo, turned into a TV show. You can now stream Season 1 of Dirty John on Netflix.Timeline of Events Support Credit: https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture...

Welcome to the Hellmouth Weirdos! Your favorite Morbid hosts Ash and Alaina are branching out from true crime and heading to Sunnydale for the ultimate Buffy the Vampire Slayer Rewatch podcast! Alaina is a Buffy superfan and Ash has never watched a single episode, so whether you're Team Angel, Team Spike, or have no clue who those people are…they've got you covered! Join them each week as they slay their way through the series, episode by episode, re-watching, and watching for the very first time. They'll break down Buffy and her friends adventures through weekly recaps, categories, and awards while Ash takes some (wooden stake) stabs at predicting what she thinks will happen next. They'll also welcome the occasional Buffy cast member, guest star, or celebrity superfan to join in the slaying. Listen to The Rewatcher: wondery.fm/JVC_REWATCHERSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this episode of Moving Past Murder, host Collier Landry reflects on how his mother would be turning 77 years young next Wednesday, September 28th. Naturally, this turns his thoughts back to his father, who still remains incarcerated for her murder. After a recent discussion with fellow survivor Terra Newell (of Dirty John fame), Collier realized that over the time his father has been incarcerated, he has spent at least a year of his life in prison. • After a friend tells Collier about the Netflix documentary "Sins of Our Mother", Collier reflects on his mother would have aged gracefully in her senior years. • A message via Instagram inspires Collier to share how he moves on with his own trauma after the messenger saw his film 'A Murder in Mansfield' • Collier then opens a series of letters from his father from the late 2000s, as he was seeking his first parole hearing and to be released from prison after serving only 21 years for the murder. Craving more behind the scenes, extra content, and interviews? Join my Patreon today! https://www.patreon.com/collierlandry (https://www.patreon.com/collierlandry) AFTER THE EPISODE LIVE Q&A with host Collier Landry! TUESDAY'S 11 am PT/2 pm ET on IG LIVE @collierlandry Follow Collier Landry on Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/collierlandry (http://www.instagram.com/collierlandry) Subscribe to my YouTube Channel http://www.youtube.com/collierlandry (http://www.youtube.com/collierlandry) Thanks for watching! Like what you see?

In this episode of Moving Past Murder, host Collier Landry reflects on how his mother would be turning 77 years young next Wednesday, September 28th.  Naturally, this turns his thoughts back to his father, who still remains incarcerated for her murder.  After a recent discussion with fellow survivor Terra Newell (of Dirty John fame), Collier realized that over the time his father has been incarcerated, he has spent at least a year of his life in prison. • After a friend tells Collier about the Netflix documentary "Sins of Our Mother", Collier reflects on his mother would have aged gracefully in her senior years. • A message via Instagram inspires Collier to share how he moves on with his own trauma, after the messenger saw his film 'A Murder in Mansfield' • Collier then opens a series of letters from his father from the late 2000's, as he was seeking his first parole hearing and to be released from prison after serving only 21 years for the murder. For exclusive content, Member Only Monthly Meet n' Greets, and extra content, please join my Patreon!  https://www.patreon.com/collierlandry AFTER THE EPISODE LIVE Q&A with host Collier Landry! TUESDAY'S 11 am PT/2 pm ET on IG LIVE @collierlandryFollow Collier Landry on Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/collierlandry Subscribe to my YouTube Channel http://www.youtube.com/collierlandry APPLE: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/moving-past-murder/id1551076031 SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/465s4vsFcogvKIynNRcvGf?si=tkQMOIpFSXO2-xSLNjp3KQ *This podcast contains colorful language that some of our listeners might consider NSFW...even when working from home.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In part 2 of Debra Newell's story exposes the things Debra did to get away from John Meehan. Her main mission was to protect her family; and if there's one thing that really triggers a parent, it's that their children are threatened. Listen and learn about the explosive final moments between John and Debra's family--which involves a fight, a struggle and a dramatic ending. Host Information:  Instagram: Dr Ramani's IG - @doctorramani Facebook: Dr Ramani's FB - @doctorramani Twitter: Dr Ramani's TW - @DoctorRamani  YouTube: Dr. Ramani's YT - DoctorRamani Guest Information:  Instagram: Debra Newell IG - @debraambrosenewell Guest Bio: Debra Newell is an interior designer based in Orange County, California. She's the founder of Ambrosia Interior Design and is a self-made multimillionaire. As a little girl, she was always sick, so she'd spend her time drawing and designing houses. She grew up in a loving family; and although her previous marriages ended in divorce, she was close with her four children. She continues to build her interior design empire today; while spreading the word about domestic abuse and how to look out for red flags. She doesn't believe in victim shaming; so she wrote a book about her experience with her narcissistic, abusive fifth husband, John Meehan. She and her daughter Terra, use their experience to share with those who may be going through the same struggles. #NavigatingNarcissism I want to hear from you, too.  Have a toxic topic you want me to explore? Email me at askdrramani@redtabletalk.com   I just might answer you questions on air.  This podcast should not be used as a substitute for medical or mental health advice. Individuals are advised to seek independent medical advice, counseling, and/or therapy from a health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issue, or health inquiry, including matters discussed on this podcast. Navigating Narcissism is produced by Red Table Talk Podcasts. EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS: Jada Pinkett-Smith, Fallon Jethroe, Ellen Rakieten, and Dr. Ramani Durvasula. Also, PRODUCER: Matthew Jones, ASSOCIATE PRODUCER: Mara De La Rosa. EDITORS AND AUDIO MIXERS: Devin Donaghy and Calvin Bailiff.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Most of us are at least peripherally familiar with the story of John Meehan, a.k.a the infamous “Dirty John,”  the con-artist who terrorized women across the United States. But when the news broke of what happened to John during his final moments, the infamy surrounding his abusive escapades strangely led to several international TV deals, docuseries, and was even the basis for some of the most successful investigative true-crime podcasts ever created. Fortunes were made as a result of his long history of domestic violence and abuse, but the victims of the traumatic events were of the few who never saw a substantial pay day. In this episode we interview Terra Newell - the woman who finally put an end to the despicable “Dirty John.” She provides an eye opening look inside the strangest kind of limelight, discusses ethics and monetization in true crime, and explains what life's really like after being involved in a homicide  that captivated the world.   Written by Michael Dunphy Jr., Executive Produced by Michael Ojibway.  Special Thanks to Terra Newell.   Support Our Sponsors:  Simplisafe: Go to www.simplisafe.com/choir to claim a free indoor security camera plus 20% off with Interactive Monitoring!  Best Fiends: Download Best Fiends on the Apple App store or Google Play!  Hello Fresh: Sign up for America's #1 Meal Kit at www.hellofresh.com/invisible16 and enter code “invisible16” for up to 16 free meals across 7 boxes and 3 free gifts!  Squarespace: Go to squarespace.com/choir for a free trial, and when you're ready to launch, use offer code “CHOIR” to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain!  Upside: Download the FREE Upside App and use promo code “invisible” to get $5 or more cash back on your first purchase of $10 or more!    Visit Invisible Choir on the web:  Patreon - Invisible Choir Premium:  https://www.patreon.com/InvisibleChoir  Website:  https://www.invisiblechoir.com/  Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/InvisibleChoirPodcast/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/invisiblechoir/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/InvisibleChoir   Written/Audio Sources:  Eye movement desensitization and reprocessing - Wikipedia Dirty John True Story Complete Timeline - John Meehan's Real Life Explained TerraNewellSurvival.com Terra Newell (@terranewell) • Instagram photos and videos The Brutal Killing That Rocked Debra Newell's Family Decades Before 'Dirty John' Entered The Picture "I Killed Dirty John." - Interview with Terra Newell About Overcoming Trauma The chilling true story behind 'Dirty John' Meet The Women Drawn Into The Real-Life Mystery Of ‘Dirty John' | Megyn Kelly TODAY How Debra Newell Married A Scammer Despite Warnings John Meehan's First Wife Tonia Reveals Shocking Details She Learned About ‘Dirty John' from His Mom Watch Terra Newell's Newest TikTok Videos Terra Newell Tik Tok: "I Murdered My Step Dad In Self-Defense" Meet The Women Drawn Into The Real-Life Mystery Of ‘Dirty John' | Megyn Kelly TODAY The chilling true story behind 'Dirty John' Meet The Real Life Victim Of The 'Dirty John' Con Artist The Untold Truth Of Dirty John Local woman shares the story behind 'Dirty John'   Music & Sound Effect Sources Opening Track: “Contact” by Panda Music Closing Track: “Zilch” by Jobii Music & Sound Effect Sources All music and sound effects used with express permission under unlimited blanket license authority from Epidemic Sound ® and SoundStripe ®.  Individual sources are available via request at info@invisiblechoir.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Debra Newell became nationally known when the LA Times and Deadline covered her volatile relationship with John Meehan, also known as Dirty John. Debra discusses how she met John, the list of past narcissistic/abusive relationships she's had and how her unawareness of red flags and love bombing made her a vulerable target. Listen to part 1 of 2 episodes of Debra's story; and learn about the steps she took to get out of the relationship safely, while protecting her own family. Host Information:  Instagram: Dr Ramani's IG - @doctorramani Facebook: Dr Ramani's FB - @doctorramani Twitter: Dr Ramani's TW - @DoctorRamani  YouTube: Dr. Ramani's YT - DoctorRamani Guest Information:  Instagram: Debra Newell IG - @debraambrosenewell #NavigatingNarcissism I want to hear from you, too.  Have a toxic topic you want me to explore? Email me at askdrramani@redtabletalk.com   I just might answer you questions on air.  This podcast should not be used as a substitute for medical or mental health advice. Individuals are advised to seek independent medical advice, counseling, and/or therapy from a health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issue, or health inquiry, including matters discussed on this podcast. Navigating Narcissism is produced by Red Table Talk Podcasts. EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS: Jada Pinkett-Smith, Fallon Jethroe, Ellen Rakieten, and Dr. Ramani Durvasula. PRODUCER: Matthew Jones, ASSOCIATE PRODUCER: Mara De La Rosa. EDITORS AND AUDIO MIXERS: Devin Donaghy and Calvin Bailiff. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This interview features Camila Victoriano, Co-Founder and Head of Partnerships at Sonoro.  We discuss how fan fiction taught her to see nerds as heroes, being in the room when Dirty John was pitched to become a podcast, her crash course to figure out the business of podcasting, becoming a first time founder during COVID, why the Mexico audio market is like the US four years ago, Sonoro's growth to a global entertainment company, and why there are no limits to Latino stories.Subscribe to our newsletter. We explore the intersection of media, technology, and commerce: sign-up linkLearn more about our market research and executive advisory: RockWater websiteFollow us on LinkedIn: RockWater LinkedInEmail us: tcupod@wearerockwater.comInterview TranscriptThe interview was lightly edited for clarity.Chris Erwin:Hi, I'm Chris Erwin. Welcome to The Come Up, a podcast that interviews entrepreneurs and leaders.Camila Victoriano:So in 2017, we had a meeting with the editor in chief at the time, and he was like, let me sit you guys down and read you this out loud. And it was what would become Dirty John. That's when we realized there's something here that I think could be our first big swing in audio and in podcasting. And we got to talking and at that point we were like, I think we can do something here. And I think there's a story here to be told in audio. When it launched, it took us all by surprise with how well it did. Obviously we knew it was a good story, but I think you never know when something's going to be that much of a hit. Today, it probably has over 80 million downloads.Chris Erwin:This week's episode features Camila Victoriano, co-founder and head of partnerships at Sonoro. So Camila grew up in Miami as a self-described nerd with a passion for books and fan fiction. She then went to Harvard to study English, literature and history, which led to her early career, starting at the LA Times. While there, she became a founding member of their studios division and a “audio champion”. Then in 2020, she went on to co-found Sonoro, a global entertainment company focused on creating premium, culturally relevant content that starts in audio and comes alive in TV, film and beyond.Sonoro collaborates with leading and emerging Latinx storytellers from over a dozen countries to develop original franchises in English, Spanish, and Spanglish. Some highlights of our chat include how fan fiction taught her to see nerds as heroes being in the room when Dirty John was pitched to become a podcast, her crash course to figure out the business of podcasting, becoming a first time founder during COVID, why the Mexico audio market is like the US four years ago and why there are no limits to Latino stories. All right, let's get to it. Camila, thanks for being on the podcast.Camila Victoriano:Yeah. Thank you for having me. Excited to be here.Chris Erwin:For sure. So let's rewind a bit and I think it'd be helpful to hear about where you grew up in Miami and what your household was like. Tell us about that.Camila Victoriano:Yeah. So I grew up in Miami, Florida, very proud and loud Latino community, which I was very lucky to be a part of, in the Coral Gables Pinecrest area for those that know Miami and my household was great. My dad, he worked in shipping with South America. My mom was a stay at home mom. And so really as most kids of immigrants, I had obviously parents I loved and looked up to, but it was very different than folks that maybe have parents that grew up in America and knew the ins and outs of the job market and schools and things like that. But really great household, really always pushing me to be ambitious and to reach for the stars. So I was, yeah, just lucky to have parents always that were super supportive. Questioned a little bit, the English major, that path that I chose to go on, but we're generally really happy and really supportive with everything that I pursued.Chris Erwin:Yeah. And where did your parents immigrate from?Camila Victoriano:My mom is Peruvian and my dad was Chilean.Chris Erwin:I have been to both countries to surf. I was in Lobitos in I think Northern Peru and I was also in Pichilemu in Chile and yeah, just absolutely beautiful countries. Great food, great culture. So do you visit those countries often?Camila Victoriano:I visited Chile once, much to the chagrin of my father, but Peru, I visited so many times and yeah, they both have incredible food, incredible wine. So you can't really go wrong. I did Machu Picchu and Cusco, and that sort of trip with my mom once I graduated college, which is really great just to go back and be a tourist in our country, but they're both beautiful and yeah, I love going back.Chris Erwin:Oh, that's awesome. All right. So growing up in your household, what were some of your early passions and interests? I know yesterday we talked about that you had an early interest in storytelling, but in some more traditional forms dating back to the ‘90s, but yeah. Tell us about that. What were you into?Camila Victoriano:I was always a huge reader. It's funny because my parents read, but not super frequently. My grandparents were big readers, but I always, always gravitated towards books. I remember, like many people of my generation when I was six, I read the first Harry Potter book and that was just mind blowing for me and I think...Chris Erwin:At six years old? Because I think I learned to read at like five.Camila Victoriano:Yeah. I had help with my mom a little bit but I remember we read it together and we would just mark with a crayon every time where we ended on the page. But I remember that book was like, I think when I first really understood how detailed and how enveloping worlds could be. And I think starting from that point, I just went full on into fantasy, YA, all sorts of books. I was just reading obsessively. It also helped that I was a classic nerd in middle school and high school and all throughout childhood, really. So I think for me, books, literature stories were just a way to see the world, see people like me, a lot of times in fantasy books or in sci-fi books in particular, you have the nerds as heroes.And so I think for me, that was a big part of why I gravitated to those genres in particular. But yeah, I just read all the time and then I did light gaming. So I played the Sims, again, similar idea though. You're world building. You're living vicariously through these avatars, but that was really how I spent most of my time, I obviously played outside a little bit too, but I was a big indoor reader always.Chris Erwin:Got it. This is interesting because the last interview I just did was with Adam Reimer, the CEO of Optic Gaming, and we talked a lot, he was born in the late ‘70s. So he was like a 1980s self described internet nerd as he says, before being a nerd was cool. So he was going to web meetups at bowling alleys when he was just a young teenager. Over through line with you because he was in Fort Lauderdale and you grew up in Miami. So two Florida nerds.Camila Victoriano:Yeah. Nerds unite. I love it.Chris Erwin:Nerds unite. You also mentioned that you also got into fan fiction. Were you writing fan fiction? Were you consuming it? Was it a mix of both?Camila Victoriano:A mix of both. So that's really in middle school in particular, how I really bonded with my small group of friends. I remember my best friend and I, we connected, we were on the bus reading a Harry Potter fanfiction on at that point it was fanfiction.net. And that is also again, similarly because in person with people, it was just like, we weren't really connecting that much. And so that community online was huge for me and my friend. We read all the time, people had comments, you had editors that you worked with and we wrote them ourselves too. And I think, looking back in the retrospective for me, that's where I think I first started to realize the potential of world building really in storytelling and in media and entertainment. It's like, it didn't stop with the canon text. You could really expand beyond that.We loved telling stories about Harry Potter's parents and how they would go to Hogwarts, like super in the weeds, deep fandom. I don't know. I think for me that was just a real eye opener too, of like, oh, there's a whole online community. And I don't think at that point I was really thinking business. But I think for me, that's where I started to redirect my focus much more seriously too of, oh, this isn't just like, oh, I like books for fun. There's people all around the world that are incredibly passionate and spending hours upon hours of time, oftentimes after hours of school to just write and to really immerse themselves in these universes. And I remember writing them and reading them, just realizing how badly I wanted to be a part of creating things that caused the same feeling. And so for me, that was huge in that respect too.Chris Erwin:Well, thinking about fanfiction, literally there are now companies and platforms that are worth hundreds of millions of dollars that foster fanfiction, the communities around them. I think of Wattpad where you have film studios and TV studios, and a lot of the streamers that are now optioning IP from these fanfiction communities to make into long form premium content. Pretty incredible to see. So you go to high school and then you end up going to Harvard. I think you end up becoming an English major at Harvard. Was that always the intent from when you were in high school, it's like, yes, I'm going to go and get an English degree? What were you thinking? How did you want to spend your time in college? And then how did that evolve after you went?Camila Victoriano:I was typical good student in high school, right, but I think the older I got, the more I realized, oh no, my passion really lies in my English classes, my history classes. Obviously, I think math, once I got to calculus, I was like, all right, this might not be for me. And then science never really gravitated towards, so for me, it was always very clear that even though I tended to be a generalist in many things, my passion and my heart really was in writing and reading and stories and in history too, in the real world and how they intersected and how they affected each other. And so I remember when I was applying to schools again, my parents were like, are you sure you want to do English?Because for them, it was in Latin America, many of the schools don't have that many practical degrees like that. You pick something a bit more technical. So I remember I would tell them, oh yeah, don't worry. I'm going to do English, but I'm going to minor in economics, which never happened. Once I got there, I was like, absolutely not, but that's what I would tell them because I was like, oh no, I'm going to be an English major, but I'm going to have some business acumen to go with it. And I think at that point when I was going into college and applying to schools, what I wanted to do was go into book publishing. And I really wanted to, I remember I had seen that Sandra Bullock movie, the proposal where she's an editor and I was like, that's what I want to do. And so at that point I was talking to, we have this really awesome local bookstore in Miami called Books and Books.And I went and met with the owner, Mitchell Kaplan had a conversation with him. And I remember I told him I wanted to get into books. I wanted to get into publishing. And he's like, look, you're young, you're getting into college. I run a bookstore, but I would tell you, don't worry so much about the medium, just follow the content where the content's going. And that was a huge eye opener. Even though it seems now obvious to, sitting here saying that, I think for me at that age where I was, so it's easy to get one track mind of like, this is what I want to do, and there's nothing else, to get that advice from someone who was running a place that I loved and went to so frequently growing up.And I think that for me, gave me a bit more flexibility going into college, just saying, okay, let's see where I gravitate towards. I know I want to do something creative. I know I want to still study English, but maybe he's right and I don't have to just stick to publishing. So when I got into Harvard I still, again, focused my classes, really liberal arts, right, like film classes, history classes. But I was a bit more, when I got there, unclear of what that would actually lead to in an exciting way, I think. But that was probably a really great piece of advice that affected how I thought about what would come next after Harvard.Chris Erwin:Yeah. So following that thread, I really love that advice of, don't worry about the medium, just follow the content. Clearly I think that really influenced a later decision that you made about doubling down on audio. But before we get there, in terms of following the content, at Harvard, it seems like you dabbled in a few different things where you did an internship with the LA Times, which is maybe news and journalistic reporting. You're also a staff writer for the Harvard political review. So what did following the content look like for you when you were at school?Camila Victoriano:So Harvard can be a really overwhelming place. My mom had gone to college, my dad hadn't finished. So it was a semi first gen college experience where I was like, whoa, once I got there. It was incredibly, the first semester and a half were really, really overwhelming. And I had to get my bearings a little bit, but I think once I got there I tried to dabble in a lot of things. And I think there was literary magazine, there was the Crimson, which is a classic. And then there was a few other organizations like the Harvard Political Review at the Institute of politics. And so I sat in a few things and it's crazy. For people that don't know, once you get there, you still have to apply to these things.You haven't gotten there and then you're done and you're good to go and everything's set up. There's a pretty rigorous application process for most of these clubs, which makes it overwhelming. And so for me, what I ended up finding a home in, in terms of just the community and the way they welcomed you in when you came into the club was the Harvard Political Review. And as one does in college, you get a bit more political, you get a bit more aware of what's going on around you, world politics. And so I think I was in that head space already and wanted to flex a little bit of my writing skills outside of class. And so there I was able to really pitch anything. So I would pitch, I remember like culture pieces about the politics of hipsters, of all things, and then would later do a piece on rhinos that are going extinct.So it was really varied and it allowed me to be free with the things I wanted to write about and explore outside of class and in a super non-judgmental space that was like, yeah, pursue it. And we had all these professors that we had access to, to interview and to talk about these things. So it was just a great place to flex the muscles. But I think mainly my focus in college was building relationships with my friends, if I'm totally honest. I think as someone that's super ambitious and super driven, I was very particular and followed step by step exactly what I needed to do in high school to get into the school I wanted to get to. And then once I was there, I was like, let me enjoy this for a second. Let me meet people and have fun and intermurals and just...Chris Erwin:Wander a bit.Camila Victoriano:Wander a bit, 100%. And I think especially freshman year and sophomore year was very much like let me just wander, take random classes. I took a computer science class, which was a horrible mistake, but just giving myself the opportunity to make mistakes. And I think then by junior, senior year is when I realized, okay, no, I still like this path that I'm going on. I like the storytelling. I like literature. I like writing. Maybe I'm leaning a bit more political. Again, that's why I applied junior year for the LA Times internship because was that through line of, I still want to be in storytelling. I still want to be in media, but now in this college experience and getting into young adulthood, I'm becoming much more aware of the political and socioeconomical world around me. Let me go into media, that's maybe pushing that forward a little bit and a bit more public service.Chris Erwin:Clearly it was a positive experience because I believe that after graduation, you decided to commit to the LA Times full time.Camila Victoriano:Yes.Chris Erwin:And just to go back on a couple of points you noted just about wandering. I think, when I review resumes for people that are applying to my firm, RockWater, my first internship was right before my senior year of college. The summer before senior year. I now look at resumes where people start doing internships literally in high school, and they have six years of working experience before they graduate. It's super impressive. My little brother took a gap year before Harvard and I think that wandering around and figuring out what he likes, what he doesn't like is really valuable. And I always tell people, like my own professional career, I did some things early on that I didn't love, but I learned a lot and it helped shape to where I want to point myself later on. So I think that's really good advice for the listeners here.Camila Victoriano:Absolutely.Chris Erwin:I'm curious, so was there any kind of gap period, or did you just get to work at the LA Times right after you graduated?Camila Victoriano:I went straight into it. I took the summer after college to travel a bit. That's when I went to Cusco with my mom, I went to Columbia. So I went a little bit around Latin America, but other than that, that fall went straight into it. But I think to your point, and again, taking a step back a little bit like freshman summer, I went to study abroad in Paris for the summer. So just again, I had traveled outside the country maybe once or twice, but not a lot. And so for me, that was a really, I was like, let me utilize some of these resources that I have. And so it was, again, that wandering and then the sophomore summer I worked at a literary magazine. So again, going more deep into literature. So I did dabble in a couple things here and there before fully committing, but after graduating pretty much went straight into work.Chris Erwin:And so you get there and are you, again, working in the publisher's office?Camila Victoriano:Working more broadly, for the “business side” of the company, right. So I'm working on business development really broadly. What that started as was how do you diversify revenue streams? How do you develop new projects from the journalism? Basically, what are new ways to make money in a digital space? We pursued projects at this time, and I actually got to see through to fruition because I was there full time, an event series within what was called the festival of books. We developed a new zone focused on digital storytelling. So we brought on VR companies, audio storytelling companies, just thinking about how to expand what the company was putting forward as storytelling, which was cool to me.And also an interesting dynamic for me as someone that loved books to be like, let me throw VR into the mix and into the book festival, but it was really fulfilling, and after pursuing a few different things, developing a couple of platform pitches internally, what really stuck with our team and with me was in 2017, a year into that job, audio as a real business opportunity for the newsroom and for the media company. So in 2017, we had a meeting with the editor in chief at the time and he brought us this story and he was like, let me sit you guys down and read this aloud to you. It was very cinematic, but it was what would become Dirty John.Chris Erwin:The editor in chief read this story out loud to your team?Camila Victoriano:Yes. So just literally, it was a team of me and my boss and that was it. And he was like, let me sit you guys down and read you this out loud. And it was what then Christopher Goffard had the journalist had written as what was going to just be maybe a series online for the paper. And I think that's when we realized like, oh wait, there's something here that I think could be our first big swing in audio and in podcasting. And we got to talking and at that point, Wondery had just gotten started to another podcast company that obviously now sold to Amazon music. And so we met with [Hernan 00:17:57] and the early team there and we were like, I think we can do something here. And I think there's a story here to be told in audio.And so again, a year out of college, I'm there helping put together the production team that would create this massive story or what would become a massive story, we didn't know at the time. And what I was able to do was basically help primarily the launch strategy and help the marketing teams and the sales teams put together what's this actually going to look like when we got this out, there was the first time we had done anything like that. And so it was a pretty wild experience. And then of course when it launched, it took us all by surprise with how well it did. Obviously we knew it was a good story, but I think you never know when something's going to be that much of a hit. And I think today it probably has over 80 million downloads and it's been adapted both scripted and unscripted on Bravo and oxygen and had a season two ordered on Bravo.So it was a crazy experience. And I think for me, it was just like the ding ding ding of, oh, hey, remember what Mitchell told you in high school? Which was, follow the content, not necessarily the medium. And for me I had never really explored audio at that time. My parents were not people that listened to public radio in the car. That was not something I grew up with or that environment. So that was really my first entry point into audio and into podcasting. And as I started to dig into it more, I remember I was such a late listener to Serial and to S town. And I was like, oh my God, this is unreal and something that I've never heard of. I've never heard anything like this before. I probably never read anything like this before. And so I remember I asked my boss at the time, I was like, can I do this full time? I was like, can I just work on building out this audio division and this team? And I think at that point, luckily because Dirty John had been such a huge success, everyone was like, yeah, this is worth doing in a more serious way.Chris Erwin:Before we expand on that, this is a pretty incredible story. So you are in the room as your editor in chief is reading you the Dirty John story. So just remind me, with Dirty John, it was initially just a story. It wasn't like, oh, hey, we created this because we want to make this into an audio series or anything else. It was just, hey, Camila, you're looking at different ways to diversify revenue for the company, looking at different mediums for our content. Here seems to be a pretty incredible story. And was your editor in chief recommending that you make it into a podcast or is that something that came up in the room in real time?Camila Victoriano:No, I think he had already been thinking of it and that's to his credit. Right. And he was like, I think this might be it. And how do we get this done? And then I think Chris Goffard in particular is a great journalist. And he writes these amazing, more feature length pieces. And so his style of storytelling really lended itself to that as opposed to a breaking news reporter. And so he had already thought when he got the piece, this might be a good podcast or it might be our good first podcast. And I think he brought us in because we were the R&D crew of two that existed in the organization to really help make it happen. And so again, once we connected with the Wondery team and put the LA Times team together, it was a match made in heaven, I think. And it worked really, really well.Chris Erwin:It seems like you went right to Hernan and the Wondery team, were you like, hey, we should talk to some of the other audio and radio companies that are out there, or did you just go straight to Wondery?Camila Victoriano:We just went straight to them. And to be honest, I think that was something else our editors suggested. And I think to be honest, it did end up working really well because I think, we were coming from a very journalistic perspective and that's where I started to learn a bit more of the different ways to tell stories in audio, right. Start very character driven, really narrative as if you're making a movie. And so I think that it was a great match honestly, and I don't think we may have maybe looked at other things here and there, but it felt like a good fit right off the bat.Chris Erwin:You said you were working on the marketing strategy and the launch, right, of the series. Do you think there was any special things that you guys did? Obviously it's incredible story and it really resonated with audiences at scale, but were there any initial marketing tactics or buzz that really helped tip that into the mainstream?Camila Victoriano:I think what we decided to do, which was perhaps different than how some podcasts had been marketed before, because till then it had really been public radio driven, was I forget who said this, but it was basically like let's market this as if it was a movie or what would we do if we were launching a film? And so we really went all out in splashing our newspaper with these beautiful full page spreads. We were the LA paper, and so we had all this FYC, for your consideration advertising that would, you'd see those spreads for movies all the time. And so we were like, why don't we just make one of our own? And so it was a full team effort with the designers, the marketing team, me and my boss at the time and just putting together this plan where we really went all out.And I think that definitely caught the attention of our subscribers, which obviously were the first touch point to this story. And we did similar things online where we had, what's called a homepage takeover where basically everywhere you look online, you're seeing advertisements for Dirty John for this story. And so we had newsletters and I think a lot of that 360 approach to promoting it online, in print, although that's not as common, but on social newsletters and really just hitting all the touch points is something that definitely I have taken with me in my career. And I think is also just becoming much more common across podcasting as we launch and others launch more narrative nonfiction, fiction series, that sort of thing where they're becoming really entertainment franchises beyond just a really great maybe non-fiction or reported story. But I think absolutely the way we thought about marketing it helped to change the way that our subscribers and then the listeners that came in through more word of mouth, saw the show and understood it for, oh no, this is entertainment. It's journalism driven, but it's entertainment.Chris Erwin:It's a really good note because an increasing challenge for any content creators or content market is how do you stand out through the noise? There is more content across more mediums today than ever before. And so how do you really cut through the noise, drive mass awareness, but also be focused and really go after a niche community as well? It's not an easy formula. Sorry. I wanted to go a little bit back in time, but that was really helpful context. But then to the point where you said, okay, you're talking to your boss, your leadership. And you're like, I think there's something really big here in audio. I want to focus my efforts here full time. I also think this is interesting Camila, because when we were talking yesterday, you said that you took an atypical path in some ways where you followed the content, you followed your passions.It wasn't like, I'm going to go to school. And then I'm also going to get a dual computer science degree or economics or some quantitative math. And then I'm going to go do two years at McKinsey or an investment bank. And I think you following your heart it then puts you into these serendipitous moments, like being in the room when your editor in chief comes with Dirty John, and then you're like, hey, I've been working on these passion projects. I think there's something to do here in audio, let's go forth together. And then you just happen to be in the room at these incredible moments and then you're raising your hand for where your heart is telling you to go. And it's obviously put you on an incredible path, which we're going to talk more about. That's something that I'm just taking away here from hearing your story.Camila Victoriano:Thanks. That's a great way to put it. It's following my gut a little bit, and I think it just goes back to again, how I was raised and I think my parents were always, there's this funny saying in Spanish, [foreign language 00:25:29], which is like, if you don't cry, you don't get fed, basically. And so I took that to heart and like, yeah, I have a passion. And I think that part of me, the inclination is like, oh, if I work really hard, it'll get noticed. But sometimes it is like, no, you have to really actively say it out loud. And I think sometimes for people that are younger, like I was the youngest by like 10 years in a lot of the spaces I've been in, it's hard sometimes to do that and to raise your hand and say, I want this. But I think when I really felt that I did it and I think it's something I've just been working on in general.Chris Erwin:So you raise your hand and you say that you want to focus on what you perceive as a big audio opportunity for the LA Times. What does that look like for next steps?Camila Victoriano:Really, what that meant was I was the only person working full time on the business side, on this project, which was daunting, but also great because I got to have different touchpoints with all the teams. And so for me, it really became, how do I build essentially a mini startup within this legacy organization and how do we make something that moves quickly and can be nimble and can be experimental in an organization that, as I said earlier is nearly 140 years old at this point? So it was really exciting and really daunting. And so what I did first and foremost was figure out a good cadence to meet with my colleagues in the newsroom. And what it allowed me to do was really focus on offering them insight into the content that was really working well in the space that perhaps is maybe a bit more data driven, I would say.I was really looking at what was working well and also working with our data and product teams to see what were the types of stories that listeners or in our case, readers were gravitating towards and offering that insight to the journalist and to the editors and really working hand in hand with them to figure out based on that, what were they excited about turning into audio or what were they excited about putting resources behind? And so I was focusing a lot on content strategy in the very beginning of how do we follow up this phenomenon, which was also, I think for everyone, you have this huge hit, you want the sequel to be just as good.Chris Erwin:And to be clear. So the data that you're looking at is both in terms of the content that the LA Times is putting out. Like your articles, I'm not sure if you were also doing video as well, looking at who's consuming that, how often are they consuming it, is that type of content performing well relative to other content? In addition, looking at metrics for just podcasting overall, what genres are performing well, what do the formats look like? Is it short form or long form audio? So you are taking that for your own understanding and then educating a lot of the writers and the journalists in the newsroom. Because then when you put that information together, better ideas can start to germinate within your business. Is that right?Camila Victoriano:Absolutely. Yeah. And then what they would be able to offer me was insight sometimes into maybe investigations they were conducting, or they would be able to tell me, yeah, that is a great story, but maybe the sources aren't going to speak on audio. So it was a really wonderful collaboration between the business side and the newsroom in a way that was really organic and really respected the work that they were doing, but also offered them a bit of insight into, hey, we're exploring this new thing together. Here's how we might do it in the best way. And so I was doing a lot of that in a lot of that more high level content strategy, basically to guide the editors into figuring out what might come next. And then also just doing everything else, basically that the journalists weren't doing, right, or that they couldn't do because they were busy reporting amazing stories, which was building on an actual business model for what this might look like, which was difficult, because it was very early days and our sales team had never sold a podcast before.They had sold digital, had sold print, had sold events. And also marketing is like, how do we replicate what we did with Dirty John in a way that was sustainable and in a way that, how do we replicate that by tracking what actually worked well from that experience? Right? Because we could always splash all of our pages and flash all of our online presence with images and with links to the show, but figuring out how to basically make a report of what actually worked to drive listeners. And so it was a lot of in the very beginning, trying to digest and figure out what are the things that we could replicate and what is the “formula” that worked in Dirty John and others. Some of the stuff is hard to quantify and you can't measure, but trying to measure as much as I could to be able to build out a plan for, okay, we think we can make this many more shows and they have to hit these particular metrics. And I was doing a little bit of everything. Literally, like I said, my sales team or the sales team at the LA Times, they had never sold podcasts before. So I was literally calling podcast agencies and selling ads.Chris Erwin:You were selling ads yourself?Camila Victoriano:Yeah, I was. I remember I called ad results. We were doing a show about Bill Cosby, which is not an easy subject to pitch to sales, but I was getting on the phone, calling people and selling ads into the show. So it was really scrappy.Chris Erwin:Yeah. So essentially a one person team where you're creating the vision and the business plan and then also executing against it as well. That's a lot. Did you have a mandate from your leadership, which is like, hey Camila, we believe in your vision here, but we want within one year we expect like X amount of revenue or within three months. Come with a clear business plan and how much capital you need to grow it and then we're going to green light it. What were the expectations from your boss?Camila Victoriano:Yeah. It wasn't anything that specific to be honest, I think mainly the main mandate very broadly was like, Hey, this needs to make money after a certain point. Right. And it can't go on for so long of just, because a lot of people while making podcasts is cheaper than making a pilot, it's also very resource intensive. So while maybe it's not a lot of cash out the door, it's a lot of time from a lot of people to make something that is high touch investigative, like a year of reporting sometimes. And so I was asking a lot of the newsroom and the journalists. And so I had to work with our finance team at the time to build out a model that basically showed at least break even for year one and then started to make some profit after that or some revenue.And so it wasn't as super strict thing, but I think obviously they wanted it to be revenue generating and relied on me and my counterparts on finance department to put that model together. And again, I was an English major. I had never made a spreadsheet. I had never made a model V lookup, it was very new to me. All of that was the first time I was doing any of that. So for me, those next three years or so were an incredible crash course into all of the practical skills that perhaps I hadn't learned in the English major was those were all learned in that time period of building a business model, putting together business plans, content strategy, and then executing marketing plans and sales plans at the same time.Chris Erwin:So I have to ask, clearly your love and your passion is for storytelling, right? So now you're figuring out the business plan for how can you actually create a new sustainable business that's going to tell stories in a different way on new mediums. Did you enjoy doing some of that business work or was it more of like, eh, I don't mind doing it because it allows me to execute towards this primary goal or were you starting to see like, oh, I actually like using both sides of my brain, operating on both sides of the house. What did that feel like for you?Camila Victoriano:I think it was definitely the latter. I think I never expected to “business” as I had always thought of it. Right. I think there were certain things that I could really do without, I did not love sales calling and pitching. I was like, I could do without ever doing this again. But I think for me, what I realized during that time period and working with the folks on the finance team, our COO, our sales, I was like, these guys are all really creative and actually figuring out how this is going to work and how this is going to be sustainable is actually weirdly fun and interesting and challenges my brain. And it's funny to put it that way, but again, as an English major, as someone that didn't grow up with parents or in a community where people were doing really traditional jobs or working as high powered business executives, I had never been in that space.And so I think for me, the brainstorming of what are we going to do, what types of shows are we going to make? How is it going to make money? How are we going to make stuff that's meaningful and powerful and makes a difference, but also not go broke? That was actually really fun for me and really creative in a weird way. Business can be creative. And at the same time, I got a lot of joy from just sitting in newsroom meetings and hearing their stories that they wanted to tell and working with, call them creatives, but the journalists really.And I think that's when I realized, oh, I can be in this space. I can be in this creative space as a facilitator of all these people that maybe have the boots on the ground, making the stories. And I actually really enjoy the operational part weirdly. And I think my brain does like being in both sides where I can brainstorm stories and I can be a part of green light meetings and I can have my opinion based on obviously personal taste, but also what I understand about the market and at the same time, really enjoy putting spreadsheets together, which sounds so lame, but it was fun.Chris Erwin:Hey listeners, this is Chris Erwin, your host of The Come Up. I have a quick ask for you. If you dig what we're putting down, if you like the show, if you like our guest, it would really mean a lot if you can give us a rating wherever you listen to our show. It helps other people discover our work. And it also really supports what we do here. All right, that's it, everybody. Let's get back to the interview.I think you're hitting on a couple notes, which are important. So just one, I think I can just sense from our listeners, some tears of joy, we are calling finance professionals and the FP&A teams at these media businesses that they have creative aspects to their work. I think they really appreciate that, but I think it is true. And I think, look, I've seen this because I started after my banking career, I was very early in the YouTube MCN, digital video days. And there's all these incredible visions of how to build these new modern media businesses, but the actual business fundamentals of how do we make money? How do we have sustainable profit where we can keep doing this year over year? I feel like a lot of those big questions were not addressed. Now that's fundamentally changed 10 years later, but I think people with your mindset is there's a chance to bring great content to these new audiences that want to consume content in different ways.But we got to find a way where there's business sense here, right, where there's going to be money pouring in from partnerships and from brands or from investors or from the fans themselves. And that allows you to keep building, to keep iterating, to create something beautiful and great and different. So clearly you have a really sharp mind for this. This is a good transition to talk about how you ended up going over to Sonoro and meeting Josh and being a co-founder of that business. To tie a bow in your LA Times experience, where did you essentially eventually take the business before you decided to do something else?Camila Victoriano:By 2019 or so, we had launched about eight or nine different shows. They were true crime limited series, but also what was important to us was to have some more recurring community driven projects. We did a really wonderful show called Asian Enough with two of our reporters, Jen Yamato and Frank Shyong. And it was just about what it means to be Asian enough and how that question is something that they asked themselves a lot and other people in the community asked themselves a lot. And I think that's an in general question that I, as a Latina can relate to. So there was a lot of also really, I don't want to say public service, but really community driven projects as well that I was really proud of. And then also of course, we had Chasing Cosby men in the window, Detective Trap, all these really awesome, true crime series that were our bread and butter by the end.And luckily all of them did really well. They all would hit the top of their charts. A couple of them I believe are in development for TV. And I was just really excited to see more than anything too, that the process of brainstorming those ideas and of bringing them to life was so much smoother by the end. Our sales team was total pro that's selling podcasts by the end. Now they still have a podcast salesperson. I think what I was most proud of from year one to year three basically, was that it wasn't anymore a struggle to push these things through, it was very much LA Times studios as we called it was really embedded in the organization and podcasts were a real serious part of the business of the LA Times and still are.And we got to make some amazing shows. All of them had advertisers when they launched, which was again for us a huge success metric. We were able to sell things before they even came out because advertisers trusted us to make it successful. And I think that was a huge success point for me having been on those calls in the beginning. I feel like that's a little bit why too, again, making this jump into Sonoro, why after that point I felt good about leaving because I was like, I feel really great about what I've built and what I've helped set up here. And I feel okay that I can step away now.Chris Erwin:Okay. And so were you planning on transitioning out or did this opportunity to work with Sonoro come up and you're like, hey, this is hard to turn down?Camila Victoriano:It was a little bit of both in my head. I was itching for something bigger, a bigger challenge, how I mentioned LA Times studios was really this mini mini startup within a legacy organization. I had gotten the itch of building something from the ground up and feeling really excited about that. And so I think at that point, I had been at the LA Times total, including my internship probably for close to five years. And so it had been a really solid run. And I think I was ready to look for my next challenge and as I was in that head space, just so happens, got introduced to Josh through our mutual friend, Adam Sachs. And when I met him, I think our energies, just to jump right into it, but our energies really, really matched well. We met over zoom a couple times.Chris Erwin:And when was this Camila?Camila Victoriano:This was in early, early, early 2020. So gearing up for what was to come unbeknownst to me.Chris Erwin:It was right before COVID.Camila Victoriano:Yeah. Yeah. And so we had met a couple times and I'm a real detail oriented person. And I think what was exciting to me about working with someone like Josh was he came in and had a really inspirational vision for what he wanted to achieve. And I got very excited and felt very aligned with that vision and what I had been thinking about recently over the last few years, just being in the audio space and in media.And I thought, might as well go for it. I felt like it was the right time for me to do something from scratch, to take honestly a risk. And what seemed like a risk at the time, because I had been working in a very sort of traditional company that probably wasn't going anywhere. And in general, I think in my life had been pretty risk averse. I think I had just done everything the way I was supposed to do it. Right. And so I think that for me this was, okay, I'm going to take a risk. I feel like I've gained a lot of confidence over the last five years and a lot of skill sets and I'm ready for the challenge. So, yeah, chose to jump in it with him.Chris Erwin:Camila, what's the quick elevator pitch or overview of Sonoro?Camila Victoriano:So, Sonoro is a global entertainment company that creates audio content with the goal of developing it into TV, film, books, other audio derivatives, and our community focus is 500 million global Spanish speakers and US Latinos. So our entire shows are made by Latinos and our entire team is a hundred percent bilingual and bicultural.Chris Erwin:In terms of being inspired by the vision, were there things from the outset where you're like, hey, Josh, I love this idea, but here's what I would do a bit differently? Was there any of that in the beginning?Camila Victoriano:What I was able to offer was the experience being in the industry. Right. And so I think my eagerness really came from wanting to try shows that were outside the podcast norm "a little bit". We had done a lot of true crime at the LA Times, but I was really excited to try stuff that would resonate. For Sonoro, it's really our core consumer are the 500 million global Spanish speakers and the US Latinos. Again, I came from Miami. I'm a Latina. What was exciting to me in general about creating stories that were empowering Latino creators was let's not set a boundary about what the narrative that they have to tell is. Let's let them tell sci-fi stories, fantasy stories, horror, thrillers, that maybe don't have anything to do with being Latino, but are just feature Latino characters in it like they would any other sci-fi.And so I think for me, what was really exciting was pushing those boundaries a little bit and leaving that creative flexibility to the creators and trusting them and their experiences, knowing that if we really relied on the specifics of their experience and their story, inherently, that would have a universal impact. What we Josh and I talked a lot about in the beginning was the success of shows like Money Heist, and those that hadn't come out yet reaffirmed our point later in the year, like Squid Game and Lupin, that more and more people were consuming global content.That was, if you're a French person watching Lupin, there's probably so many inside jokes that I totally missed, but I still really enjoyed it. But they're going to enjoy it even more because it's culturally specific to them. And so I think that's what a little bit what I was really trying to push forward in the early shows that we made and still today of we can be really culturally specific, so that if we're making a show set in Mexico, Mexicans, they're like, oh yeah, this is really made for me, and I get this, and this sounds like where I'm from and who I am. But someone that is listening in the Bronx can still really enjoy it and have a sense of cultural community with the story, but it's more universal in that sense.Chris Erwin:Got it. Very well said. So, you align on visions with Josh, but you also have your distinct point of view. And then is it like, hey, within one to two months of meeting, you joined the Sonoro, and you helped co-found the company and build it to what it is today, or was there a longer [courting 00:43:24] period?Camila Victoriano:I think we literally talked on Zoom twice.Chris Erwin:And then it was like, all right, Camila's on board.Camila Victoriano:Yeah. I don't know. We just, we really got along really well and we clicked really easily. And I was like, I think this can work. I think we have a good rapport. We always joke, we're both Capricorns, so I think that that helps.Chris Erwin:What are the attributes of a Capricorn?Camila Victoriano:Very driven, very type A, very low BS. So I was like, okay, I think we can understand each other. So I don't know. It just felt right. It felt like everything was aligning. I was getting that edge to go and build something and start with... In general, I was just saying, I want to start with a really young team. That's what I wanted to do. That's as far as I had gotten in my head space about it, and then to get this connection from Adam, literally as that was happening, it just felt way too serendipitous to pass up.And also then to have honestly such an immediate connection with Josh of like, oh, okay, I think we can work well together, and I think we understand each other and how we like to do things and how we like to work, that still to this day nearly three years in is true. I think it checks so many boxes that I was like, I just have to, again, it was the first big risk I've taken, honestly; career wise or school wise, if I'm looking that far back. But it felt right, and it felt like the right time to do it. So I just went for it.Chris Erwin:Well, so it's funny that you say all this. I've known Josh for a few years now. And in terms of how you describe him of like he's very ambitious, very driven, very direct, no BS. Camila Victoriano:Yeah.Chris Erwin:And as I'm getting to know you, I get that sense as well. And literally just, I think we spoke for the first time yesterday, but I'm also seeing just how complimentary the both of you are in working together. So I think that explains a lot of the recent success that we've seen with Sonoro over the past few years, not surprised. After a couple Zoom meetings, you guys partner up and then what do you first start working on?Camila Victoriano:So the first year that we really started, and we really formally kicked things off, kid you not, March 2020. So it was weird timing. But really what we were first trying to do is test out if we could actually make things that people loved. That is all we cared about. We were like, can we make shows that people love, that people binge into the deeps in the middle of the night? And can we do it well? And can we do it at a high quality? Because I think that was important to both of us is in general when you're seeing, especially in Latin America and the US, content for Latinos, like traditional telenovelas, the production value just isn't there. And so that was really important to us. And so the first year we launched a lot of traditional bread and butter podcast, chat shows that really quickly climbed up the charts.Personal interviews, comedy, wellness, your traditional categories in Mexico specifically, and started to build out our network there really quickly, because I think a lot of the creators that were more independent there saw us as a reliable resource to help them grow their shows and to really be; for us, it was like, we want to be the partner of choice for any creator podcast or media company, executive director that wants to work and make really great content that just so happens to be created by Latinos.And so that along with let's make stuff people love were our two big mandates in the beginning, and it worked really well. Our first original scripted series launch that we did was a show called Crónicas Obscuras. It was a horror franchise that we launched in October. And that came off of a similar premise, which was Latinos over index and horror. We love horror movies, horror shows, anything. But most of the horror shows or movies that do really well are either based on European legends and European horror stories or feature zero to no Latino characters that, and if they're there, do they make it towards the end? Maybe not. And so-Chris Erwin:They get killed off early.Camila Victoriano:Yeah, definitely not the final character left. So for us, it was like, this is one genre that we know already has a huge gap in terms of how Latinos consume it and how it's being made. And so we said, this is going to be our franchise where we're going to tell Latin American legends, set in Latin America with Latin American characters. And so our first season of Crónicas was about these things called Los Nahuales, which are basically werewolves, but they also turn into other characters like snakes and things like that. And the show, we did it super high production value. We recorded with this thing called binaural audio where you literally have a mic that looks like a head and people can walk around it. And so if you're wearing headphones, the show, you can feel things coming up from behind you, but it's just because of the way that we recorded it with this special mic.And we had the voice actor who's done Homer Simpson in Mexico for 20 years. That was our big celebrity for that season star in the show. And the show ricochet up to number one podcast in general in Mexico. And it did really, really well. And that was our first success of this is an original show that Sonoro produced fully in-house, wrote, direct, production, casting, marketing. And we were able to launch it and people really, really loved it. Next few months after that, we launched a few similar series. The big one, of course, is a show called Toxicomanía, which launched in April of '21, which was, again, similarly mission driven, but always entertaining. It was based on a true story. A Mexican doctor in the 1940s that convinced the president of Mexico to legalize all drugs for six months, which no one knows happened.For six months in Mexico, all drugs were legal and you could get them in government mandated dispensaries. And it was this doctor's way of saying, hey, this is how we build a progressive society. This was an obvious one. Again, it's like the combination of our mission, which is, this is a story about Latinos, in particular Mexicans and drugs that you haven't seen before because when you think Mexico or drugs in media, you think Narcos, but this was actually something very different. But then what we did is we turned it into a really entertaining dramatic thriller. We were inspired by movies like The Big Short and things like that, where it was like it was teaching you something about history, but in a way that was really, really entertaining.And then we partnered with the actor, Luis Gerardo Mendez, who's an amazing Mexican star and really starting to come into his own in the US to executive produce and star in the project. And that show did insanely well. We launched it on 4/20. So again, it was the combination of mission, entertainment, production value, the right partner, and also a really strategic marketing launch of this is obviously a story that people are going to love and it's about drugs, so we're going to launch it on 4/20. And it did really, really well. It was number one in Mexico across Latin America. Number two in the United States in fiction, even though it was only in Spanish.And now we just announced earlier this year that it's going to be developed into a film at Paramount+. And so that to me is a perfect case study of what we really tried to do that first year is let's partner with the best creators. Let's make the best content and see if people love it. And I think we proved that to ourselves that first year, year and a half.Chris Erwin:When you entered the, call, the Mexican creator and audio landscape, was it competitive? Were there a lot of other production companies that were either Latin America based, Mexico based, or from the US that were trying to operate in that market? And two, follow up question, was there a sense of with the creators that were there, did a lot of them want to create in audio and to expand their creator ambitions, or was it something like, oh, we didn't even know that we can do this, but then after talking with you Camilla and your team, they're like, oh yeah, typically, I just create a bunch of videos on YouTube or whatever else, but I'd love to do something in a more scripted or [premium 00:50:55] or narrative form in podcasting. Let's figure out what that looks like together?Camila Victoriano:Yeah. I think in terms of the landscape, there were very few to none established. There were a lot of independent creators. So we actually are head of production; Andrés Vargas. He is this great heart of the Mexican podcast creator network. He was really a first mover there for sure. And I think we worked together really to bring on a lot of these early chat show podcasts into our network to kickstart that, but there wasn't a lot of established companies there. There weren't any. And so for us really, it was a mainly an education challenge, not so much the creators. I think there were, like I said, independent comedians or wellness experts that had already started to realize, oh, this podcasting thing is makes a lot of sense for me to expand into. And we focused on working with them, but really more so for the talent.So for our scripted projects is explaining that, hey, you don't have to have hair and makeup. You can just go into the studio for literally four hours and you make a whole series. And I think for us, that was how, especially when we were early on unknown, reaching out to these huge stars like Luis, being able to pitch it as this is still a really... And this is what I love about audio, right? Is like it's still, even though it's been around for a good chunk of time and you could argue all the way back to radio dramas and radio plays, it still feels like such a creative and experimental space. And I think that's what got a lot of the talent in particular that we were speaking to for our scripted projects excited, that they could try something different. This wasn't your traditional production, where you had to go in with a 5:00 AM call time.It was very much, especially in early COVID days. It's like you could do it from your house. We'll send you a kit. No worries. We'll do it over Zoom. But it was a lot of education really for them, for their managers, but people were excited. I think they thought this is a chance for me to play and for me to have fun and for me to do something different and which made the whole experience, especially of those early recordings, just really special.Chris Erwin:So going back to a point that we talked about with your experience at the LA Times, it was follow the content, but then figure out the business model. How do we make this sustainable? So what did that look like for you working with Josh and the team of like, okay, we found this incredible creator community. We have these shows that are becoming number one in their local markets and they're crossing international borders into the US and more. But how do we actually generate sustainable revenue for this? And what are the right revenue streams beyond what everyone just talks about for podcast ad sales, et cetera? So what was some of the initial work? What did that look like for you guys? And where does that look like going forward as you think about the medium and monetization differently?Camila Victoriano:Yeah, absolutely. I think in Mexico, in particular, again, it was all about education, education, education. And I think for us, since we focused that first year really on just launching great shows and making sure that they were hits, then our counterparts in Mexico were able to go to brands and say, hey, look, we already know this works and explain a little bit the medium and how to interact with consumers and how to write an audio ad. So it's still early days in that market, but we've been able to work with really amazing brands like McDonald's, like Netflix. A lot of CPG brands in particular are really excited about this space. And so I think we're really, the more we talk to brands every month, it gets easier. And I think where the podcast market in the US was maybe four years ago is where they're at right now.And I think we're reaching those innovators in the brand space that are excited to try something new and it's working really well for them. And we're getting a lot of people that come back, come back again because the audience for podcasting is the traditional ones that you see here in the US. They are younger, they have more disposable income typically. And so I think a lot of the brands are really excited about that. And then the US, of course, it's a totally different game. You have your direct response advertisers, which are the bread and butter of podcast advertising, but what we're really excited about is bigger brand presenting sponsorships, especially in our fiction series. That is where we're really looking to double down on in this year. For example, we had a show called Princess of South Beach, which was a 36 episode telenovela in English and in Spanish, and [Lincoln 00:55:02] came on as a presenting sponsor. And we produced this really incredible integrated piece into the content itself.So it was a funny telenovela set in Miami, and we created a chat show or a TV show basically like an Enews called Tea with Tatianna, where she was talking to people around the family that the show was about while integrating Lincoln in a really seamless way. So for us, it's always about thinking a few steps ahead of what's the market going to look like in a year or two, and how can we get ahead of that? And how can we be really, really creative about the way that we integrate brands, so that it doesn't disrupt the content; number one, but also it gives them better value and it gives them much more seamless integration with the content that we already know listeners are loving. And so that's really what we're focused on in the US in particular is those bigger integrations into, in particular, our scripted content.Chris Erwin:Camila, as a young rising leader, where you raised your hand and essentially got to be at the helm of what is the new LA Times studio division, where you're helping to tell stories in different ways. And now you're a co-founder at Sonoro. Looking back on your young career, what are some of your leadership learnings to date, upon reflecting of you as a leader earlier on, maybe a few years back to the leader you are today? What have you learned and what do you want to keep working on?Camila Victoriano:The main thing I've learned has probably been more about human interaction, how you work with people and how you build a team. I think at the LA Times in particular, newsrooms are tough, because it's the business side traditionally and over the years has never... hasn't always been super friendly. And so what I learned really well there and also building a team over Zoom these last few years is communication is critical. And over communicating and making sure everyone knows what they're supposed to be doing, why, and just offering up the opportunity to answer questions and to be there as a leader that listens to people and to listens to maybe questions they have about work, about their life. I think for me, that's always really important and something that I've valued from mentors in my life of they're there to listen and they're not going to... I was a very precocious early career person.I was always like, why is this happening, or what's going on? And I wanted to know as much as possible. And so communication, I think, is something that I always valued as a younger employee or as an early career. And so that's always what I'm trying to communicate or to convey to our employees now and to back then the newsroom is like, I want to be someone that they have a lot of FaceTime with and that communicates a lot with them about strategy and about what we're doing, what we're doing and gets them really excited.Chris Erwin:I like that. I run a lean team, but I realize, I can never overcommunicate. So things that I just assume that the team knows, the reality is that they don't. These things are in my head. And so every day it's important to just remind the team, what is our mission? What are we focused on? What were wins from yesterday? What are learnings and what are we maybe changing? That is literally a daily conversation. And I would much rather over-communicate than under-communicate. So I think that's very well said. Another point here is you now have investors. Yo

This week, Leonora is joined by her friend, colleague, and mentor, Maggie Kiley. Maggie started as an actor, became one of the best acting teachers around, and now directs shows like Keep Breathing, Dirty John, Dr. Death, and Pretty Little Liars. She and Leonora discuss how they apply their Atlantic Theater Company Acting School training in their filmmaking, the nature of mentorship, learning on the job as a director, breastfeeding on set, and raising really creative kids. Also, Leonora wonders - for the first time ever - if Maggie is mad at her.

In this episode, Laura interviews survivor and shero Debra Newell from the podcast “Dirty John,” Bravo show of the same name and Oxygen documentary, “Dirty John, the Dirty Truth,” which Laura served as consultant producer on. Now Debra has written a book called “Surviving Dirty John” to set the record straight about what really happened. Laura and Debra discuss how Debra went to four different police stations, desperate for help. Despite Debra's 319-page report about John's history, the police told her it was a civil matter and to go home. This is exactly why Laura and Debra have been lobbying for coercive control law reform and a register for serial perpetrators in America.  Laura unravels coercive control including the red flags and her indirect assessment of John Meehan using the Psychopathy Checklist Re-visited. Debra shares her investigation into her sister Cindi's murder and reads out the message she sent police the day before her daughter, Terra Newell, was attacked by John Meehan. You won't want to miss this. Trigger warning: Listener discretion is advised. This episode may be upsetting and/or triggering and it will be angry making. You can buy Debra Newell's book here: https://www.amazon.com/Surviving-Dirty-John-Story-Murder/dp/1953295509 Sign the petition to Criminalize Coercive Control in America https://www.laurarichards.co.uk/dv-law-reform/ Sign the petition to Criminalize Coercive Control in Australia https://www.change.org/p/criminalise-coercive-control-in-australia Complete the Victims Voice Survey if you have experienced coercive control: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/LLW6XZ3 You can follow Laura and her work on Instagram @crimeanalyst @laurarichards999 TikTok @crimeanalystpod and Twitter @thecrimeanalyst @laurarichards999 #DebraNewell #DirtyJohn #CoerciveControl #CindiVickers #TerraNewell #CrimeAnalyst #Expert #Analysis #Behaviour #TrueCrime #Podcast #MaleViolence #Femicide  Clip Dirty John, the Dirty Truth Thank you to my amazing sponsor Babbel: Right now, get up to 55% off your subscription when you go to BABBEL.com/crimeanalyst  Leave a Review If you want to support my work and Crime Analyst and if you enjoyed this episode, please leave a 5-star review here: https://www.crime-analyst.com/reviews/new/

Betty Broderick was convicted of murdering her ex-husband, Daniel T. Broderick III, and his second wife, Linda (Kolkena) Broderick, on November 5, 1989. At a second trial that began on December 11, 1991, she was convicted of two counts of second degree murder and later sentenced to 32-years-to-life in prison. http://www.drinkingthecoolaid.comRESOURCES:Watch Betty Broderick | Snapped (oxygen.com)Friends Bid Slain Couple a Bittersweet Farewell - Los Angeles Times (latimes.com)Betty Broderick: Shocking Case Featured on Oxygen's 'Snapped' (people.com)‘Dirty John': Who Was Linda Kolkenna, Dan Broderick's Second Wife? | True Crime Buzz (oxygen.com) Betty Broderick's prison love letters found in San Diego | cbs8.comThe Strange Truth About The Betty Broderick Story (nickiswift.com)

100 WOO HOO! What the actual! We made it to 100 episodes! Happy Birthday to us! Who'd have thought that when we started back in November 2020 that we'd still be here, swearing up a storm talking about all things real life, true crime and supernatural!!     To celebrate this insane milestone, we've put together a bit of a pick'n'mix hotchpotch mishmash of some of our fave bits from the last 100 episodes, so if you hear the theme tune a couple of times or some references to Covid, well, that's cos it's a throwback episode! With a twist… and maybe a special guest appearance from Ben Mendlesohn! You'll have to listen to find out what the F is going on including the great Eric Bana mixed up with Dr Eileen Banana… Speaking of which, a massive shout out to Dr Banana who created our theme tune – you da best!   But before all that, Geordie & Michelle just want to thank all our amazing Eavesdroppers who've listened, liked, downloaded, shared and laughed along to our little podcast. And special shout outs to our unpaid interns and researchers including Al Tegart, Neil The Scientist, Tameera The Modern Mystic, Natty J, Hazel The Psychic Real Estate Agent, Jen The Hen, Ren, Anna & Fran, Stephanie Margherita, Lucy Beacon, Janika, Ben, Linda… and anyone who's ever contributed to the podcast… We love youse all!   And for anyone who wants to hear the full episodes featured in this week's podcast, just click the links below J   The one about Tardigrades… Yes, we talk about tardigrades, which Geordie thinks look like poo on legs and the time tardigrades were shot off in a rocket to crash on the moon. Thanks Tameera the Modern Mystic for the hot tip! https://eavesdroppinpodcast.com/podcast/35-weird-addictions-drinking-wee-bee-stings-eating-disorders-pica-tardigrades-fecal-transplants-more/     The one where Carrie from Colorado drinks her own wee… Yes, she drinks and bathes in her own wee – a yellow lemonade! Easier to drink than water apparently. With bits and pieces… https://eavesdroppinpodcast.com/podcast/35-weird-addictions-drinking-wee-bee-stings-eating-disorders-pica-tardigrades-fecal-transplants-more/     The one about the Nullo movement… The men with no nipples who also remove the balls. Yes, we talk about the OG Japanese dick and ball chomper and The Eunuch Maker. https://eavesdroppinpodcast.com/podcast/8-catfish-murders-the-eunuch-makers-killing-for-cash-the-nullo-movement-more/     The one where an Australian guy believes he's the secret love child of Charles and Camilla… Listen now to hear Geordie's impression of Prince Charles, it's a corker! https://eavesdroppinpodcast.com/podcast/42-whos-the-daddy-charles-camilla-ted-bundy-liv-tyler-steve-jobs-eric-clapton-jack-nicholson-more/     The one where Geordie & Michelle remember the time they met Clive James… Also, hear Geordie sing like Margarita Prakatan! https://eavesdroppinpodcast.com/podcast/48-voices-from-beyond-gef-the-mongoose-poltergeist-clairaudience-haunted-phones-talking-to-dead-people-more/     The one where Michelle talks about the woman that hoarded dead cats in her kitchen fridge/freezer…TRIGGER - the cats got liquefied… L https://eavesdroppinpodcast.com/podcast/14-hoarders-grim-cases-and-a-look-at-the-psychology-behind-it/     The one about Geordie's husband drinking a mystery liquid from a jar on the street… Find out what it was! https://eavesdroppinpodcast.com/podcast/14-hoarders-grim-cases-and-a-look-at-the-psychology-behind-it/     The one where NattyJ wrote in… Yes, it's the one where we talk about NattyJ's step-mum being an empath and seeing dead people… https://eavesdroppinpodcast.com/podcast/4-empaths-ufos-shaun-ryder-empath-stories-aliens-uaps-more/     The one where Geordie talks about Shaun Ryder the UFO hunter…  Are we just an intergalactic service station? https://eavesdroppinpodcast.com/podcast/4-empaths-ufos-shaun-ryder-empath-stories-aliens-uaps-more/     The one where we debate how to say gamut… Michelle thinks she knows the correct way to say it but it's all down to Al Taggart… https://eavesdroppinpodcast.com/podcast/30-psychic-detectives-reincarnation-and-communicating-with-the-dead-spirits-in-the-material-world/     The one where Sting got stung… Listen to Geordie talking about how Sting got swindled by his accountant, plus the Dirty John story with Eric Banana! https://eavesdroppinpodcast.com/podcast/11-true-crime-part-1-deception-con-artists-and-melissa-caddick-the-missing-millions/     The one about Melissa Caddick… The story that kicked off Michelle's obsession with Melissa Caddick's missing foot. https://eavesdroppinpodcast.com/podcast/11-true-crime-part-1-deception-con-artists-and-melissa-caddick-the-missing-millions/     The one with Hazel The Psychic Real Estate Agent… where Geordie recounts the tale of a little Italian man sitting next to Hazel in the passenger seat – or was he? https://eavesdroppinpodcast.com/podcast/40-ghostie-whosties-ghost-stories-haunted-houses-robbie-williams-loretta-lynn-mama-cass-ghostbusters-more/   We hope you enjoy this week's episode and remember, wherever you are, whatever you do, just keep Eavesdroppin'!   *Disclaimer: We don't claim to have any factual info about anything ever, soooooorrrrrryyyyyyyy   Get in touch with your stories and listen, like, subscribe, share etc…  Or email us at hello@eavesdroppinpodcast.com      Listen here: www.eavesdroppinpodcast.com Or here:  https://podfollow.com/1539144364   WE ARE NOW ON PATREON :) Support your favourite podcast over on Patreon – you have to use this link to find us apparently, otherwise we get lost in the masses…  https://www.patreon.com/eavesdroppin   EAVESDROPPIN' ON SPOTIFY : https://open.spotify.com/show/3BKt2Oy4zfPCxI7LDOQLN4   APPLE PODCASTS : https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/eavesdroppin/id1539144364   GOOGLE PODCASTS : https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkLnBvZGJlYW4uY29tL2VhdmVzZHJvcHBpbi9mZWVkLnhtbA?hl=en   YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqcuzv-EXizUo4emmt9Pgfw   Our Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/eavesdroppinpodcast   Or wherever you normally listen…   #stardigrades #melissacaddick #ghosts #sting #dirtyjohn #cults #hoarders #drinkingwee #shaunryder #UFOs #empaths #clivejames #charlescamilla #nullomovement #nullos #reallife #podcast #comedy  #comedypodcast #truestories #truelife #storytellingpodcast #eavesdroppin #eavesdroppinpodcast               

Alison Robertson is an actor, personal development coach, and author. Most recently starring in two Lifetime movies, and she has appeared in: West Wing, Dawson's Creek, Criminal Minds, For the People, and Dirty John. As a coach, she also works with actors, creatives, and entrepreneurs to help them build confidence to be successful. Her book, ‘Enoughness: The Simple Truth to Embracing You' has since been on the Forbes list twice. Alison loves what she does, and that comes through in this interview! ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ Alison Robertson ⌲ IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0731712/ ⌲ IG: https://www.instagram.com/thealisonrobertson/?hl=en ⌲ Website: https://alisonrobertson.com/ ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ The Moving Spotlight Podcast ⌲ iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-moving-spotlight/id1597207264 ⌲ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7cjqYAWSFXz2hgCHiAjy27 ⌲ Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/themovingspotlight ⌲ ALL: https://linktr.ee/themovingspotlight ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ #DawsonsCreek #CriminalMinds #DirtyJohn #WestWing #Enoughness #Forbes #Writer #Book #Confidence #Emmys #TVTime #iTunes #Actor #ActorsLife #Believe #Success #Inspiration #Netflix #Hulu #Amazon #HBO #AppleTV #Showtime #Acting #Artist #Theatre #Film #YourBestBadActing #Content #CorbinCoyle #JohnRuby #RealFIREacting #TMS_Pod --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/the-moving-spotlight/support

Now before the Feast of the Passover, when Jesus knew that his hour had come to depart out of this world to the Father, having loved his own who were in the world, he loved them to the end. 2 During supper, when the devil had already put it into the heart of Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, to betray him, 3 Jesus, knowing that the Father had given all things into his hands, and that he had come from God and was going back to God, 4 rose from supper. He laid aside his outer garments, and taking a towel, tied it around his waist. 5 Then he poured water into a basin and began to wash the disciples' feet and to wipe them with the towel that was wrapped around him. 6 He came to Simon Peter, who said to him, “Lord, do you wash my feet?” 7 Jesus answered him, “What I am doing you do not understand now, but afterward you will understand.” 8 Peter said to him, “You shall never wash my feet.” Jesus answered him, “If I do not wash you, you have no share with me.” 9 Simon Peter said to him, “Lord, not my feet only but also my hands and my head!” 10 Jesus said to him, “The one who has bathed does not need to wash, except for his feet, but is completely clean. And you are clean, but not every one of you.” 11 For he knew who was to betray him; that was why he said, “Not all of you are clean.”12 When he had washed their feet and put on his outer garments and resumed his place, he said to them, “Do you understand what I have done to you? 13 You call me Teacher and Lord, and you are right, for so I am. 14 If I then, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also ought to wash one another's feet. 15 For I have given you an example, that you also should do just as I have done to you. 16 Truly, truly, I say to you, a servant is not greater than his master, nor is a messenger greater than the one who sent him. 17 If you know these things, blessed are you if you do them. 18 I am not speaking of all of you; I know whom I have chosen. But the Scripture will be fulfilled, ‘He who ate my bread has lifted his heel against me.' 19 I am telling you this now, before it takes place, that when it does take place you may believe that I am he. 20 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever receives the one I send receives me, and whoever receives me receives the one who sent me.”1.     What are the situations in which you like or expect to be served?  What are the situations in which being served makes you feel uncomfortable?2.     Do you feel/see how social gravity flows up?3.     Of the three following, which attitude do you have more of when it comes to letting Jesus wash you?  “I'm ok, why do I need cleansing?”  “I'm ashamed and embarrassed, and don't want to be known.” “I'll take care of it myself, then I'll welcome Jesus.”  4.     In what ways might you make yourself ‘greater' than Jesus? 5.     “Our church is only as strong as the love we show to the weakest link.”  Do you agree?  How are we doing in that department?6.     Do you believe that serving in Jesus' name will bring you the blessing of knowing Jesus more?  Is knowing Jesus more worth it to you?  

Today's guest, Terra Newell, was only 25 when she survived a knife attack at the hands of serial predator and con man John, whom she killed in self-defense.  The shocking incident became the subject of 2018's smash TV hit “Dirty John,” and Terra has gone on to share her story – and raise awareness for domestic abuse – on Dateline, Dr. Oz, KTLA, and more. Six years after defending herself from John, Terra is still working through the trauma.    “[Everyone says], ‘Well, you know, we need everyone's stories because it's not just your story, you know, it's your mom's, it's this, that.' I understand that they all have stories, but the reason why [John] isn't here today is because of me. And I have to hold onto that trauma and I have to live with that. And I am the only one that has to live with that.” – Terra (27:05)    Today, Terra joins me to share her story – including when she realized something wasn't right about John, the “master manipulator” tactics she witnessed him using on her mother, and how her relationship with her mom has changed.  She also speaks candidly about being a trauma survivor, how C-PTSD has altered virtually every aspect of her life – from dating to physiological changes to getting through the day – and techniques she uses to cope.    “It's still like, I wish I didn't have to do that. Like I wish the cops could have handled it, but you know, everything happens for a reason. And I have to lean on that reason when those days come up because you know, I wanna be normal some days. I wanna be as normal as I can.” – Terra (44:06)   For Terra, something that helps her own journey to recovery is helping other trauma survivors, which she does through her trauma healing work.    “I get the people [who are at their] last resort. They're like, ‘I've gone to therapy. My therapist, I haven't learned anything from her.' I'm like, ‘Well, I have been through a lot of stuff and I've gone through the process of it. So let me show you what has worked for me.' … There's the commonality that everybody has been through. Something everybody has been hurt. And so I don't love to get to know people's hurt, but I love to bond with people over that, for sure. I know that we're all not alone.” – Terra   In This Episode (01:51) Terra's story: “My mom married a psychopath”  (03:59) The point that she knew something wasn't right about ‘Dirty John'  (09:40) Love bombing, gaslighting, and other tactics of a master manipulator (21:05) Being triggered as a trauma survivor (23:38) America's obsession with sociopaths  (28:21) A day in the life: How Terra copes with C-PTSD (38:07) The healing role of animals in a trauma survivor's recovery (42:19) How Terra's relationship with her mom has changed (48:14) Dating with C-PTSD (55:39) EMDR therapy and coping techniques (1:03:03) The physiological effects of trauma  (1:06:27) Terra's work as a trauma life coach (1:10:45) “I know this is my purpose”    Our Guest Terra Newell helps other survivors cope through her work as a trauma life coach and is the host of her own podcast, Time Out with Terra, and true crime podcast The Survivor Squad. Currently, Terra is working with criminal behavior analyst Laura Richards to help pass laws against coercive control in the United States. With her help, one such law has already passed in California.   Resources & Links Off The Cuff https://www.offthecuff.fm/ https://www.youtube.com/c/OffTheCuffwithDannyLoPriore https://www.instagram.com/1and1otc/ https://www.instagram.com/dannylopriore/ Terra Newell https://www.instagram.com/terranewell/ https://terranewellsurvival.com https://audioboom.com/channels/5001278 https://www.instagram.com/thesurvivorsquadpod/ https://www.instagram.com/terraspups/

Sadie grew up in a picture perfect family...or so everybody thought. What lied beneath was a deep dark family secret that nobody knew about - leaving scars that would affect everybody for years to come.Content Warning: This episode discusses soliciting underage girls, mental health, stalking, suicide and physical abuse.DO YOU HAVE YOUR OWN STORY TO SHARE? EMAIL US at ExWivesUndercover@Gmail.comLIKE THE PODCAST? If so, please give us a 5-star rating and help us spread the word and protect other women from falling victim to these types of men.VISIT OUR WEBSITE: www.ExWivesUndercover.comFollow Ex-Wives UndercoverInstagram: https://bit.ly/3sMY949Facebook: http://bit.ly/365dZxfPrivate FB Group: https://rb.gy/nufn9eTikTok: https://rb.gy/6zw1myWere You Raised By Wolves?Etiquette, manners, and beyond! Practical advice to help you through every situation.Listen on: Apple Podcasts Spotify The Proffitt PodcastThe podcast that shows you tips & strategies to create content with confidence!Listen on: Apple Podcasts SpotifySupport the show

The terrorist attacks on September 11th, 2001, took a large toll on America's sense of security. In the dawn of this new era, Congress moved to take swift action by creating the Patriot Act. The stated goal was to identify and strike back against terrorists, but in practice, the law had much wider-reaching effects. But everything changed in 2013 when an intelligence contractor named Edward Snowden decided to expose the truth, leaking more classified documents than any whistleblower in American history.This four-part series from American Scandal follows Edward Snowden's transformation, from a respected intelligence officer, to the most wanted whistleblower in the world. This is just a preview of Edward Snowden from American Scandal, but you can listen to the rest of this episode at wondery.fm/AS_JoeExotic.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week: Apple's funding podcasts, brand safety tech continues to divide advertisers, what more can and should ad agencies do to support journalism, Edison's Latino Podcast Report, and Spotify bundles Chartable and Podsights access for Megaphone users Apple Ramps Up Its In-House Podcasting Efforts with Studio Deal Manuela: Rumors of Apple getting into podcasting bore fruit last week with official confirmation. At least, sort of. Ashley Carman and Lucas Shaw's Bloomberg piece from last Wednesday explains:  “The investments have been led by Apple's TV studio, rather than its podcast division. Despite being one of the biggest distributors of audio in the world, the company's podcasting unit has avoided funding individual shows or buying networks because it wants to be seen as a neutral platform.”  That TV division has entered into a deal with Futuro Studios to fund the creation of podcasts while Apple retains first-look rights on film and TV adaptations. In essence, the deal creates a pilot-factory for Apple to generate new IP and test them in the world of podcasting before graduating to the more expensive filmed version.  “Apple hasn't pumped nearly as much money into original podcasts as Amazon and Spotify Technology SA, which have each spent more than $1 billion acquiring companies and programming. Spotify, Apple's rival in music streaming, has made some of the most popular podcasts in the world exclusive to its service and thus unavailable to the competition.” Podcasting is becoming a relatively affordable testing ground for IP instead of fully committing to a TV pilot, along with the added bonus of any successful IP getting a built-in audience of fans before the first day of shooting. Successful shows like Netflix's Dirty John adaptation are proving the method can work and work well.  ‘A key impediment': Brand safety tech continues to divide advertisers into haves and have-nots Shreya: This Monday Seb Joseph of Digiday posted an article detailing the growing divide in how advertisers handle being posted to news sites when big, predominantly negative stories break. Nobody wants to be the next viral sensation getting roasted worse than Mr. Peanut when Planters' ad campaign temporarily killing their mascot coincided with the death of Kobe Bryant.  In a world full of dangerous news cycles, brand safety tech companies like Integral Ad Science are able to impart more granular control over what content is considered brand-safe in a timely manner.  “Then there are those marketers who don't use the technology. Take British newspaper group Reach plc, for example, which has said the war in Ukraine significantly dampened advertiser demand. This won't surprise anyone. The truth is the downside is too steep and the upside too obscure for many marketers to do anything but avoid the polarizing news. That said, not every marketer sees it this way. And if they could afford to, they would advertise on news sites — just in a more nuanced manner.” An unintended side effect of advertisers deciding what topics are acceptable to block ads on is that some of the biggest news stories are also cutting off some of the potentially best-written journalism of the moment. Joseph quotes Zefr EVP of Strategy and Marketing: “We actually don't accept or use keyword blocklists as a policy in our company, because they end up causing the same damage to over-blocking quality voices over and over again and they just don't work well in UGC environments. We instead apply the GARM [Global Alliance of Responsible Media] models for debated sensitive social issues as a way to keep brands in front of suitable content while avoiding the issues that they're concerned about.”  Ad Agencies Can, and Should, Do More to Support Journalism Shreya: Between hedge fund buyouts dissolving seemingly bulletproof institutions and ad dollars drying up when negative stories drop, things are looking rough for journalists. Ricardo Baca writes an impassioned plea for ad agencies, stressing the importance of not only collaborating with journalists but also supporting them with ad buys and subscriptions. He writes from the perspective of having worked on the other side of the fence as a journalist himself years prior.  “To be clear, agencies are partly to blame here. We're stuck on the same vicious treadmill as everyone else: We see the web traffic going to social media, so that's where we buy our ads, further siphoning away support from journalism, the snake eating itself. And with news outlets struggling mightily on the revenue front no matter their size—from local alt-weeklies to major metropolitan dailies—I am making a plea for agencies to step up.” Baca suggests treating relationships with journalists not as transactional, but symbiotic instead. Value their time and they will value yours. Don't hold grudges when well-researched reporting generates something the client isn't happy with. Then there's the fact that journalism has evolved beyond gumshoe reporters all working for a monolithic outlet. With more forms of professional journalism becoming the norm, so to must go the advertising support.  “Keep in mind that revenue models have shifted. Consider an agency sponsorship for a Substack newsletter, for example. Sponsoring other popular media formats like podcasts, recognizing both a shift in consumers' habits as well as the continuity involved—someone's got to be paid to create the stuff—is another way to directly support the trade.” Gabe's Section Manuela: The third annual Latino Podcast Listener Report was published on Tuesday, following a webinar discussing the results presented by Gabriel Soto, my co-host on La Descarga and Senior Director at Edison Research, and Elsie Escobar, Director of Community and Content at Libsyn and co-founder of She Podcasts. Supported by Adonde Media, LWC Studios, Libsyn, PRX, and SXM Media this year's report revealed many interesting trends as well as new findings. The study finds that 59% of Latino adults have ever listened to a podcast, up from 56% since last year and up from 45% since 2020.  The lack of Spanish podcast promotion was a recurring theme of the report, and an opportunity exists to bridge such content with foreign born Latinos. The report highlighted the listening gap between Latinos born outside of the U.S. and their U.S. born counterparts. 37% of Latinos born in the U.S. listened to a podcast in the last month, while 29% born outside of the U.S. say the same.  A new statistic released this year revealed seventeen percent of Latino Monthly podcast listeners identify as LGBTQ+. For comparison, the report cited the Gallup poll's 2021 estimate of 11% of Latino adult population who identify as LGBTQ+  The benefit of advertising on Latino podcasts was also discussed. According to the report, 64% of monthly listeners of Latino-hosted podcasts, say they ever purchased a product or service as a result of hearing a sponsorship or advertising on a podcast, compared with 25% of those who have never listened to a podcast hosted by Latinos saying the same. .  As Gabriel Soto put it, “Latinos in the U.S. control an impressive $1.9 trillion in purchasing power, and today's data demonstrate how advertisers who support Latino podcast content are benefitting, while those who don't are missing out,”.  The Latino Podcast Listener Report serves as an invaluable resource to many creators in the podcast space. We're happy to see the effort continue. You can download the Latino Podcast Listener Report for free at the link in the show notes. Spotify Launches New Bundle For Megaphone Users, Adding Access To Chartable And Podsights Shreya: In an email sent yesterday, Spotify has announced they are bundling enterprise access to recently-purchased services Chartable and Podsights into Megaphone.  “With this updated offering, you will be able to easily apply attribution measurement to showcase the value of your podcast promotional efforts as well as your direct sales campaigns. All Megaphone clients will now be able to obtain unique insights about their podcast audience while also measuring the audience growth impact of their promotional campaigns through tools like Chartable SmartPromos and SmartLinks.”  Attribution and growth marketing are the major focus in the world of podcast adtech. One of the largest enterprise-focused hosting platforms acquiring two of the top attribution and analytics solutions and offering them for free to existing users is a big deal budget-wise. Though it is worth noting there are strings attached: they're free for the first four million impressions.  Since the big Spotify purchase of Podsights and Chartable there's been a massive hole for third party attribution. Companies like Claritas, Veritonic, and Artsai who've started to take on that challenge have had an uphill battle. Both Podsights and Chartable are great pieces of tech, but first-party is not neutral. Offers like this will make it even harder to extract them from their hold on the space and jeopardizes third party measurements value in podcasting.  A good deal, but one to keep in mind when considering the future of podcasting as an industry.  Quick Hits: Recommended Weekend Reading Manuela: Finally, it's time for our semi-regular roundup of articles we're calling Quick Hits. These are articles that didn't quite make the cut for today's episode, but are still worth including in your weekend reading. This week's three great reads are: How alt.NPR's experimentation shaped the early podcasting landscape starting in 2005 by Shirley Liu. They didn't invent podcasting, but NPR was definitely a pioneer. Podcasting opened up NPR to experimentation and launched the careers of so many podcasters. Ad Disclosure: Podcast Sponsors Aren't Off the Hook from last Thursday's PodMov Daily. A story of meal replacement brand Huel getting in hot water over host-read advertising. Podcasting, given its position at the crossroads between radio and influencer marketing, will start to see quite a few stories like this as it continues to enter more mainstream content channels. Unpaid Internship Rebrands as a $4,000 "Training" by Skye Pillsbury. This issue of Pillsbury's can't-miss newsletter The Squeeze covers a story exactly as bad as the headline sounds. A true must-read. The Download is a production of Sounds Profitable. Today's episode was hosted by Shreya Sharma and Manuela Bedoya, and the script was written by Gavin Gaddis. Bryan Barletta and Tom Webster are the executive producers of The Download from Sounds Profitable.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week: Apple's funding podcasts, brand safety tech continues to divide advertisers, what more can and should ad agencies do to support journalism, Edison's Latino Podcast Report, and Spotify bundles Chartable and Podsights access for Megaphone users Apple Ramps Up Its In-House Podcasting Efforts with Studio Deal Manuela: Rumors of Apple getting into podcasting bore fruit last week with official confirmation. At least, sort of. Ashley Carman and Lucas Shaw's Bloomberg piece from last Wednesday explains:  “The investments have been led by Apple's TV studio, rather than its podcast division. Despite being one of the biggest distributors of audio in the world, the company's podcasting unit has avoided funding individual shows or buying networks because it wants to be seen as a neutral platform.”  That TV division has entered into a deal with Futuro Studios to fund the creation of podcasts while Apple retains first-look rights on film and TV adaptations. In essence, the deal creates a pilot-factory for Apple to generate new IP and test them in the world of podcasting before graduating to the more expensive filmed version.  “Apple hasn't pumped nearly as much money into original podcasts as Amazon and Spotify Technology SA, which have each spent more than $1 billion acquiring companies and programming. Spotify, Apple's rival in music streaming, has made some of the most popular podcasts in the world exclusive to its service and thus unavailable to the competition.” Podcasting is becoming a relatively affordable testing ground for IP instead of fully committing to a TV pilot, along with the added bonus of any successful IP getting a built-in audience of fans before the first day of shooting. Successful shows like Netflix's Dirty John adaptation are proving the method can work and work well.  ‘A key impediment': Brand safety tech continues to divide advertisers into haves and have-nots Shreya: This Monday Seb Joseph of Digiday posted an article detailing the growing divide in how advertisers handle being posted to news sites when big, predominantly negative stories break. Nobody wants to be the next viral sensation getting roasted worse than Mr. Peanut when Planters' ad campaign temporarily killing their mascot coincided with the death of Kobe Bryant.  In a world full of dangerous news cycles, brand safety tech companies like Integral Ad Science are able to impart more granular control over what content is considered brand-safe in a timely manner.  “Then there are those marketers who don't use the technology. Take British newspaper group Reach plc, for example, which has said the war in Ukraine significantly dampened advertiser demand. This won't surprise anyone. The truth is the downside is too steep and the upside too obscure for many marketers to do anything but avoid the polarizing news. That said, not every marketer sees it this way. And if they could afford to, they would advertise on news sites — just in a more nuanced manner.” An unintended side effect of advertisers deciding what topics are acceptable to block ads on is that some of the biggest news stories are also cutting off some of the potentially best-written journalism of the moment. Joseph quotes Zefr EVP of Strategy and Marketing: “We actually don't accept or use keyword blocklists as a policy in our company, because they end up causing the same damage to over-blocking quality voices over and over again and they just don't work well in UGC environments. We instead apply the GARM [Global Alliance of Responsible Media] models for debated sensitive social issues as a way to keep brands in front of suitable content while avoiding the issues that they're concerned about.”  Ad Agencies Can, and Should, Do More to Support Journalism Shreya: Between hedge fund buyouts dissolving seemingly bulletproof institutions and ad dollars drying up when negative stories drop, things are looking rough for journalists. Ricardo Baca writes an impassioned plea for ad agencies, stressing the importance of not only collaborating with journalists but also supporting them with ad buys and subscriptions. He writes from the perspective of having worked on the other side of the fence as a journalist himself years prior.  “To be clear, agencies are partly to blame here. We're stuck on the same vicious treadmill as everyone else: We see the web traffic going to social media, so that's where we buy our ads, further siphoning away support from journalism, the snake eating itself. And with news outlets struggling mightily on the revenue front no matter their size—from local alt-weeklies to major metropolitan dailies—I am making a plea for agencies to step up.” Baca suggests treating relationships with journalists not as transactional, but symbiotic instead. Value their time and they will value yours. Don't hold grudges when well-researched reporting generates something the client isn't happy with. Then there's the fact that journalism has evolved beyond gumshoe reporters all working for a monolithic outlet. With more forms of professional journalism becoming the norm, so to must go the advertising support.  “Keep in mind that revenue models have shifted. Consider an agency sponsorship for a Substack newsletter, for example. Sponsoring other popular media formats like podcasts, recognizing both a shift in consumers' habits as well as the continuity involved—someone's got to be paid to create the stuff—is another way to directly support the trade.” Gabe's Section Manuela: The third annual Latino Podcast Listener Report was published on Tuesday, following a webinar discussing the results presented by Gabriel Soto, my co-host on La Descarga and Senior Director at Edison Research, and Elsie Escobar, Director of Community and Content at Libsyn and co-founder of She Podcasts. Supported by Adonde Media, LWC Studios, Libsyn, PRX, and SXM Media this year's report revealed many interesting trends as well as new findings. The study finds that 59% of Latino adults have ever listened to a podcast, up from 56% since last year and up from 45% since 2020.  The lack of Spanish podcast promotion was a recurring theme of the report, and an opportunity exists to bridge such content with foreign born Latinos. The report highlighted the listening gap between Latinos born outside of the U.S. and their U.S. born counterparts. 37% of Latinos born in the U.S. listened to a podcast in the last month, while 29% born outside of the U.S. say the same.  A new statistic released this year revealed seventeen percent of Latino Monthly podcast listeners identify as LGBTQ+. For comparison, the report cited the Gallup poll's 2021 estimate of 11% of Latino adult population who identify as LGBTQ+  The benefit of advertising on Latino podcasts was also discussed. According to the report, 64% of monthly listeners of Latino-hosted podcasts, say they ever purchased a product or service as a result of hearing a sponsorship or advertising on a podcast, compared with 25% of those who have never listened to a podcast hosted by Latinos saying the same. .  As Gabriel Soto put it, “Latinos in the U.S. control an impressive $1.9 trillion in purchasing power, and today's data demonstrate how advertisers who support Latino podcast content are benefitting, while those who don't are missing out,”.  The Latino Podcast Listener Report serves as an invaluable resource to many creators in the podcast space. We're happy to see the effort continue. You can download the Latino Podcast Listener Report for free at the link in the show notes. Spotify Launches New Bundle For Megaphone Users, Adding Access To Chartable And Podsights Shreya: In an email sent yesterday, Spotify has announced they are bundling enterprise access to recently-purchased services Chartable and Podsights into Megaphone.  “With this updated offering, you will be able to easily apply attribution measurement to showcase the value of your podcast promotional efforts as well as your direct sales campaigns. All Megaphone clients will now be able to obtain unique insights about their podcast audience while also measuring the audience growth impact of their promotional campaigns through tools like Chartable SmartPromos and SmartLinks.”  Attribution and growth marketing are the major focus in the world of podcast adtech. One of the largest enterprise-focused hosting platforms acquiring two of the top attribution and analytics solutions and offering them for free to existing users is a big deal budget-wise. Though it is worth noting there are strings attached: they're free for the first four million impressions.  Since the big Spotify purchase of Podsights and Chartable there's been a massive hole for third party attribution. Companies like Claritas, Veritonic, and Artsai who've started to take on that challenge have had an uphill battle. Both Podsights and Chartable are great pieces of tech, but first-party is not neutral. Offers like this will make it even harder to extract them from their hold on the space and jeopardizes third party measurements value in podcasting.  A good deal, but one to keep in mind when considering the future of podcasting as an industry.  Quick Hits: Recommended Weekend Reading Manuela: Finally, it's time for our semi-regular roundup of articles we're calling Quick Hits. These are articles that didn't quite make the cut for today's episode, but are still worth including in your weekend reading. This week's three great reads are: How alt.NPR's experimentation shaped the early podcasting landscape starting in 2005 by Shirley Liu. They didn't invent podcasting, but NPR was definitely a pioneer. Podcasting opened up NPR to experimentation and launched the careers of so many podcasters. Ad Disclosure: Podcast Sponsors Aren't Off the Hook from last Thursday's PodMov Daily. A story of meal replacement brand Huel getting in hot water over host-read advertising. Podcasting, given its position at the crossroads between radio and influencer marketing, will start to see quite a few stories like this as it continues to enter more mainstream content channels. Unpaid Internship Rebrands as a $4,000 "Training" by Skye Pillsbury. This issue of Pillsbury's can't-miss newsletter The Squeeze covers a story exactly as bad as the headline sounds. A true must-read. The Download is a production of Sounds Profitable. Today's episode was hosted by Shreya Sharma and Manuela Bedoya, and the script was written by Gavin Gaddis. Bryan Barletta and Tom Webster are the executive producers of The Download from Sounds Profitable.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Welcome to the Badass Babes of Entertainment! On our fifteenth episode of season 2, we interviewed Michele Hanisee has been a Deputy District Attorney for the County of Los Angeles for 22 years.  She has tried over 100 jury trials including 44 murders.  She spent five years in the Hardcore Gang Division and the past ten years in the Major Crimes Division.  She is author of the “California Gang Crimes Manual.”   She co-authored Proposition 66, the Death Penalty Reform and Savings Act of 2016, which was enacted by the voters.  She is currently the President of the Association of Deputy District Attorneys, which represents nearly 900 Los Angeles Deputy District Attorneys.As a quick bonus we interviewed several great guests at a local event called “Meet in Malibu”; where Brenda Fisher was joined by Badass co-Host Terra Newell, who took down Con man Dirty John. This week we included our chats with Brittany Brown and Erin Hill. Enjoy the bonus chats with these Badass Babes. ABOUT THE PODCAST: Brenda Fisher and Meghan Ketz of Badass Babes of Entertainment bring you all the guest interviews, casting tips, and industry news in one captivating podcast. Brought to you this week by Roasted Luxury and Rogue Matter - Download the app  ►Join the Movement.Sponsored by: https://roastedluxury.com/  Promo Code BABES15 for a discount on your entire order!▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬Listen to the podcast in audio form on every major podcasting app.▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬Spotify ► https://open.spotify.com/show/2VRABRKopxehGDfiymXFwOApple ► https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/badass-babes-of-entertainment/id1547723790Google Podcasts ► https://tinyurl.com/4s3v9zksiHeart ► https://iheart.com/podcast/98566932⇩ Follow the Rogue Matter network ⇩Website ► https://www.roguematter.com/Twitter ► https://twitter.com/rogue_matterFacebook ► https://www.facebook.com/weareroguematterSoundcloud ► https://soundcloud.com/roguematterYouTube ► https://youtube.com/roguematter Twitch ► https://twitch.tv/weareroguematter▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬Brittany Brown's Social:
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From tech bro scammers to fake heiresses, there's a scammer story for everyone... nearly everywhere. In this week's episode, Host Mariah Smith digs into our fascination with conartists with the podcast that kicked off the latest craze... Dirty John. Featuring interviews with Los Angeles Times Reporter Chris Goffard and Huffpost Reporter Caroline Bologna. A Neon Hum Media and Sony Music Entertainment production. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts to binge all episodes now or listen weekly wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visitmegaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode survivor Terra Newell details the attack that nearly killed her and how she fought off and took down Dirty John. Terra and I go on to discuss what healing has looked like, therapy types, bumps in the road and many things in between. Terra is an amazing human who speaks with such authenticity, it gives so many other survivors permission to speak on their own terms. Thank you Terra for coming on, absolute warrior woman. Make sure to reach out to Terra & check out her story in more detail on her TikTok!Connect with Terra NewellTikTokInstagramTime Out With Terra Podcast InstagramWebsite - https://terranewellsurvival.com/ Connect with Reclaim Me / Madeleine HeatherReclaim Me Linktree For advice and support in Australia please reach out to: LifelineFor crisis support please reach out to LifelinePhone: 13 11 14Website: www.lifeline.org.au/ 1800 RESPECTFor sexual assault and domestic abuse support services please reach out to 1800 RESPECTPhone: 1800 RESPECT - 1800 737 732Website: www.1800respect.org.au Centre Against Sexual Assault (CASA)Phone: (Victoria) 1800 806 292 (Nationally use 1800 RESPECT)https://casa.org.au/ Connect with services in Canada Sexual Assault Centres, Crisis Lines, and Support Serviceshttps://endingviolencecanada.org/sexual-assault-centres-crisis-lines-and-support-services/ Connect with services in America National Sexual Violence Resource Center The National Sexual Violence Resource Center (NSVRC) is the leading nonprofit in providing information and tools to prevent and respond to sexual violence.Website: https://www.nsvrc.org/ RAINNUS based Rape, Abuse, Incest National Network for survivorsWebsite: https://www.rainn.org/ National HotlinesLive chat option available on the websiteNational hotlines can help connect victims, survivors, and their support networks connect with local resources.Phone: - 855-484-2846 - Connect with services in the UK Rape crisis UKWebsite: https://rapecrisis.org.uk/ See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

When Emily Gellis hears rumors of people suffering horrible side effects from a trendy diet she springs into action. Armed with over a hundred thousand Instagram followers, Emily launches a social media crusade to expose F-Factor and its founder, Tanya Zuckerbrot. It's the start of a feud that will attract trolls, lawyers, and, eventually, national media all because of fiber. From Wondery, this is a story about wealth, wellness, and influence narrated by Casey Wilson.Listen to Fed Up: wondery.fm/JE_FEDUPSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Join us in the Ol' Dirty Basement as we break down the life , divorce, and murders  that surrounded the Broderick family back in 1980s. This story was made into a series that aired on the second season of Dirty John starring Amanda Peet and Christian Slater. Enjoy!! Thanks to The Tsunami Experiment for the theme music!!Sounds:https://freesound.org/people/Sami_Hiltunen/sounds/527187/ Eerie Background Musichttps://freesound.org/people/okieactor/sounds/415912/ Gunshothttps://freesound.org/people/Feibel1/sounds/548632/ Calculator TypingSources: https://www.latimes.com/la-broderick-sg-storygallery.htmlhttps://allthatsinteresting.com/betty-broderickhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betty_Broderick

Claire's feature film set decoration work includes: Taken, Grown Ups, Just Go With It, Bliss, and Greta Gerwig's Little Women. Her television work includes the series: Castle, American Horror Story, 9-1-1, and Dirty John. Claire's most recent feature films include: Hustle, with Adam Sandler, and the Noah Baumbach's upcoming, White Noise. 

Unfortunately due to technical difficulties there will be no new episode of The Wild West Extravaganza today. But don't you worry none, I'll be leaving you in the very capable hands of Lindsay Graham, the host of History Daily. You may know Lindsay from the excellent audio drama 1865. Or maybe American History Tellers. American Scandal, American Elections: Wicked Game, Dirty John, Doctor Death, Business wars. And on and on. Lindsay Graham knows how to make a great podcast and he most definitely knows his history, as is evidenced by my personal favorite work of his, History Daily. If you're not familiar, at History Daily - a co-production from Airship and Noiser - they do history, daily. Every dang weekday, Lindsay Graham takes you back in time to explore a momentous event that happened ‘on this day' in history. Whether it's to remember the tragedy of December 7th, 1941, the day “that will live in infamy,” or to celebrate that 20th day in July 1969, when mankind reached the moon, or of course important events from the old west, History Daily is there to tell you the true stories of the people and events that shaped our world—one day at a time. So, if you're stuck in traffic, bored at work, —wherever you are, listen to History Daily to remind yourself that something incredible happened to make that day historic. Listen to History Daily!!!! https://www.noiser.com/history-daily    

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Megan and Michelle welcome Mimi in doozy of an episode about cheating, gaslighting, parallel trauma, hidden minivans, overlapping calendars, love bombing, future faking, half truths, the revolving drawer, pity parties, tantrums, lots of lunches, and our side of the bed.Want to support Prosecco Theory?Check out our merch, available on teepublic.com!Follow/Subscribe wherever you listen!Rate, review, and tell your friends!Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook!****************Ever thought about starting your own podcast? From day one, Buzzsprout gave us all the tools we needed get Prosecco Theory off the ground. What are you waiting for? Follow this link to get started. Cheers!!

Megan and Michelle feel the fire around dirty fucking liars, lack-of-Independence Day, managing expectations, assault ruffles, quiet disappointment, bleeding hearts, bunker TVs, and being brave.Want to support Prosecco Theory?Check out our merch, available on teepublic.com!Follow/Subscribe wherever you listen!Rate, review, and tell your friends!Follow us on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook!****************Ever thought about starting your own podcast? From day one, Buzzsprout gave us all the tools we needed get Prosecco Theory off the ground. What are you waiting for? Follow this link to get started. Cheers!!

Debra Newell had a few failed marriages and went looking for love on a dating website. She came across a man named John Meehan. She thought he was a charming, successful anesthesiologist, handsome, and kind. In actuality, he was none of those things.John, better known as “Dirty John”, had a scary past that Debra and her family didn't know about. Eventually, John began to tear Debra's family apart. However, she was being love bombed and psychologically manipulated to the point she couldn't see what was really happening for a while.As their relationship progressed into marriage, there were red flags that Debra did open her eyes to and she was scared. She was living in fear and went to one of her daughter's apartments to stay to get away from him. John began stalking Debra and her family.One of Debra's daughter's, Terra Newell, joins me today and talks about this traumatic experience. Terra killed John in self defense during a terrifying attack. She's a courageous, smart, strong, inspiring human being and I admire her so much.•Follow her socials:Instagram: https://www.Instagram.com/terranewellTwitter: https://www.Twitter.com/terra_newell PROMO: True ConsequencesTwitter: https://www.Twitter.com/ReverieCrimePodInstagram: https://www.Instagram.com/ReverieTrueCrimeTumblr: https://reverietruecrime.tumblr.comFacebook: https://www.Facebook.com/ReverieTrueCrimePatreon: https://www.Patreon.com/ReverieTrueCrimeMerch: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/reverie-true-crime-store?ref_id=17247 Website: https://reverietruecrime.wixsite.com/podcastContact: ReverieTrueCrime@gmail.com