Podcast appearances and mentions of Gay Hendricks

Many clinicians are left wondering if their best work lies in the clinical field or the coaching/consulting arena. I've felt this dilemma myself, pondering how to balance my interests, endeavors, and the evolution of family life. I realized that I couldn't sustain multiple paths, and I made the hard decision to give up my clinical work. If you are struggling along those same lines, I hope today's show gives you insights, clarity, and encouragement. Join us to learn more!Our Featured GuestAngela Williams, LCSWAngela Williams is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker in Orlando, Florida. She has made the transition from clinician to coach, and she now works with other therapists who are making the same change in their lives. Angela shares her thoughts about why so many clinicians are leaving for the world of coaching, along with the biggest roadblocks that may come up on this path. She gives her best tips for overcoming those big roadblocks and recommends several books as helpful resources. WebsiteYou'll Learn:Why so many therapists are becoming coachesHow the therapy field, with its inherent regulations, contains many barriers to providing services to clients—and coaching is differentThe biggest mental roadblock for Angela in moving from clinician to coachWhy each clinician feels like the “insecure expert” and has to intentionally build up their confidenceWhy it's challenging to become an online, visible brand rather than a care providerWhat holds clinicians back the most and presents the biggest roadblocksHow a mindset coach can help us rewrite our roadblocks into our success storyHow perfectionism, fear of failure, and standards of success can prevent us from taking actionWhy money blocks and financial literacy play into our beliefs about moneyWhy the fear of success can be just as crippling as the fear of failureBooks recommended by Angela: The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks, Get Rich, Lucky Bitch by Denise Duffield-Thomas, and You Are a Badass at Making Money by Jen SinceroResources:Want to launch your online course?Check out our new membership site that's launching in January! Find out more and join us in Haven here.Mentioned in this episode:Try Alma!Building and managing the practice you truly want can feel overwhelming. That's why Alma is here—to help you create not just any practice, but your private practice. With Alma, you'll get the tools and resources you need to navigate insurance with ease, connect with referrals that are the right fit for your style, and streamline those time-consuming administrative tasks. That means less time buried in the details and more time focused on delivering exceptional care to your clients. You support your clients. Alma supports you. Learn more at sellingthecouch.com/alma and get 2 months FREE—an exclusive offer for STC listeners.

Send us a textAfter eight years of hosting Authors Who Lead, Azul finally sits down again with the man who inspired the show from the very beginning: Dr. Gay Hendricks, author of The Big Leap, Conscious Loving, and his new memoir, Loving Life.In this intimate, spiritually rich conversation, Gay shares the stories behind his memoir, the pivotal moment on the ice that changed everything, the quiet teachers in his family (including his Aunt Kat), and how suffering can open the doorway to your genius. This is more than an interview—it's an invitation to remember who you really are.Timestamp:00:00 – Welcome & intro00:32 – Why the podcast began01:07 – Introducing Dr. Gay Hendricks02:33 – Why he wrote a memoir05:06 – Spiritual moments that shaped him09:27 – Seeking answers at a young age14:43 – Understanding your zone of genius19:10 – Aunt Kat's influence26:29 – Life stages & growth30:17 – The moment that changed everything35:26 – Why Loving Life is transformativeFull show notesCOMMUNITY PROGRAMS

In this special episode, Alex Whitton and Alex Swallow take the reins to interview Robbie about the release of his new book, The Power to Choose: Finding Calm and Connection in a Complex World.What unfolds is a warm, honest and surprisingly vulnerable exploration of choice, mindset, relationships, and the inner work that helps us meet complexity with more skill and less fear.Across the conversation, Robbie shares the nine-year journey behind the book - from a powerful coaching question asked by Joel Monk in 2016 through to the resistance, the rewrites, and the emotional cost of releasing something deeply personal into the world.Together, the three of them explore themes at the heart of both the book and coaching itself.In this episode they explore:Why in almost every moment, there's more choice available than we think.The idea of the Higher Self - and why we all have moments where we forget it.How curiosity becomes an antidote to reactivity and contraction.What really happens when we assume others are doing their best.Why connection and calm matter so much in a complex world.How writing a book becomes its own developmental journey.The castle metaphor for working with shadow parts of ourselves.The stories that shape us - and the ones we get to rewrite.Why none of this work is ever really finished.Robbie also shares two stories that bring these ideas to life in very human ways: a tense exchange with a neighbour, and a moment on a crowded train that turned into a masterclass in choosing calm rather than escalating conflict.This episode is thoughtful, grounded and full of practical wisdom - for coaches, and for anyone navigating the complexity of modern life.For more information about Robbie, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/To buy The Power to Choose, visit http://geni.us/powertochooseFor more information about Alex Whitton, visit http://www.exploregrowbe.com/For more information about Alex Swallow, visit https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexswallow/Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com.Get Robbie's ebook for coaches, An Introduction to The Coach's Journey Flywheel at https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheelMusic by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQgTo support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN:The Power to Choose: Finding Calm and Connection in a Complex World http://geni.us/powertochoose Joel Monk on The Coach's Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching Gay Hendricks' idea, The Zone of Genius https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12-minute-blog/2022/2/3/the-zone-of-genius-the-most-powerful-thought-experiment-for-personal-transformation Robbie interviewing Alex Swallow on The Coach's Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-62-alex-swallow-life-is-better-when-we-choose Jennifer Garvey Berger on The Coach's Journey Podcasthttps://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-42-jennifer-garvey-berger-the-answer-to-either-or-is-both Philip Crocker on The Coach's Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/88-philip-crocker-coaching-is-the-most-natural-thing-in-the-world Minor Arias on The Coach's Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-3-minor-arias-living-by-design-glz56 Robbie on Neil Mackinnon's podcast, Creative Practice https://creative-practice.net/2021/01/29/robbie-swale-coach/ Rising Strong — Brené Brown (referenced re: “everyone is doing their best”) https://brenebrown.com/book/rising-strong/Man's Search for Meaning — Viktor Frankl https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/1033737/man-s-search-for-meaning Useful Not True — Derek Sivers (idea referenced about beliefs & utility) https://sive.rs/useful Robbie's article about Harry Kane https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12-minute-blog/2021/12/15/sometimes-it-doesnt-matter-if-what-you-believe-is-true-it-matters-whether-it-is-useful Meaningful Productivity Blueprint (Robbie's framework mentioned in the conversation) https://www.robbieswale.com/meaningful-productivityAn Introduction to The Coach's Journey Flywheel https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel “It's Not About the Chicken” — Fred Kofman story referenced in the episodehttps://www.robbieswale.com/the-12-minute-blog/2023/2/3/its-not-about-the-chicken-harry-its-about-the-last-20-years The early Choose Your Own Adventure reference https://www.cyoa.com/David Gemmell (author referenced) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_GemmellHow to Start When You're Stuck (12-Minute Method Book 1) https://geni.us/startwhenyourestuck

Lesley Logan reconnects with fat loss and mindset coach Amy Ledin to talk about the habits that actually stick in midlife. Amy shares how she's been navigating stage four cancer while still honoring her values, her energy, and the daily agreements that keep her grounded. Together, they revisit her 5 for 50 habit framework, explore the power of future self scripting, and break down why identity work—not willpower—is what creates change that lasts and helps you become the person who follows through.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How Amy returned to routines and promises after her cancer recurrence.Why she created 5 for 50 and how doing it as a family builds confidence.How choosing a “test habit” and adjusting early makes hard habits feel doable.Why creating a health character and using rehearsal scripts rewires old loops.How changing your environment reduces decision fatigue and supports long-term habits.Episode References/Links:Amy Ledin's Website - https://www.leanbodiesconsulting.comAmy Ledin's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/amy_ledinLean Bodies Consulting's - https://facebook.com/leanbodiesconsultingF* It Podcast - https://beitpod.com/fitpodEpisode 5: Amy Ledin - https://beitpod.com/amyledinAtomic Habits by James Clear - https://a.co/d/874dad4Book: Your Big Leap Year by Gay Hendricks - https://a.co/d/ick374uJourney To The Heart by Melody Beattie - https://a.co/d/fT1sQ1cWillpower Doesn't Work by Benjamin Hardy - https://a.co/d/f5KQW2vLove Yourself Like Your Life Depends On It by Kamal Ravikant - https://a.co/d/8jKmYAhNicole Lepera - https://theholisticpsychologist.comGuest Bio:Amy Ledin is redefining what it means for midlife women to “look like they train.” As a coach and entrepreneur, she combines strength training, simplified nutrition, and deep mindset work to help women create bodies that reflect their discipline, not their diets. Through her unique tools; the Meal Card Method, Daily Agreement Cards, and Breakthrough Rehearsal Scripts, Amy helps women escape the all-or-nothing loop, rebuild consistency, and sustain results for life.A stage four non–small cell lung cancer fighter, Amy brings a rare blend of resilience and realness to everything she teaches, grounding her coaching in lived experience rather than perfection. She's also a devoted mom of five, a podcaster, and a community leader who believes identity work is the true driver for change. Whether she's guiding her clients or helping them script the actions of their “future self,” Amy's mission is to help women trust themselves again. 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It's after Sarah Blakely. I pretend that I try to show up as her because I'm not as outgoing and as creative and fun and bubbly as Sarah. But when I create that character, my current self doesn't see it as a threat if I just say I'm just playing this role, you know. I'm coming on the podcast, playing a role that helps me show up as my best self. Like, I think a lot of us like forget that we have to, you know, we got to do it enough to become it.Lesley Logan 0:29  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 1:13  Be It babe, holy moly, this episode is one for the books. I mean, her first one was one for the books. She's fabulous and she's amazing. We cover a lot of topics. You can insert whatever it is that you want to be until you see in for what we're talking about in these ideas. Basically, I wanted to have Amy Ledin back, and she is back, and, like, top notch, better than ever. And the reason is, is because we are going to do a really fun series on habits, and Amy is the queen of how she gets people to create habits that are not torturous and also that allow them to really become the person they want to be. And I mean, every different example is a be it till you see it. So this week, it'll be Amy Ledin plus a recap, and then next week I'll kick off a series on how I help people with habits. There are two different ways, but you then can choose the adventure that works for you. And I'm really excited about it. I believe in what we just discussed in this episode so much, and I can't wait to hear what's coming. And then I want you to let us know, like, how are you doing? Are you able to make the habits to help you be it till you see it? So get ready, buckle up. We have a few weeks to talk about this topic. And first, it's the one and only Amy Ledin. Lesley Logan 2:24  Okay, Be It babe. Holy frickin moly. I can't even believe it. I am so freaking excited to see the woman who's on my screen right now. Like, I have saw it on my day. Like, this, is it two o'clock yet? Is it two o'clock yet? Amy Ledin is back. Episode Five. Can you (inaudible) I don't know what number this is but it's over 600.Amy Ledin 2:44  Wow, that's crazy.Lesley Logan 2:47  I know. I know. And you, oh, I have to tell you this, Amy, my mom heard your episode when it came out. She literally still only talks about that one out of all the podcasts. She's like, that woman with the cards, that woman, and then you had, like, the boss, the boss bitch, and like something else, and she's still Amy Ledin 3:06  Oh yeah, your inner bitch, inner boss. Lesley Logan 3:07  Oh yes, she quotes you to this day. It's been four years. Amy Ledin 3:13  I love it. I love it. Lesley Logan 3:15  So Amy, in case people are new to us, which there's probably a lot of people. Can you remind them who you are and what you rock at? Amy Ledin 3:22  Yes. Okay, so I'm Amy Ledin, as you know, and I am a fat loss and mindset coach, is what I would say. That's my forte. But I'm a podcaster. I'm a mom of five kids, you know, I'm a wife, a homeschool mom, you know, all the things you know, I'm someone that has overcome, you know, I've lost 90 pounds. I am a stage four non small cell lung cancer, you know, fighter. I am now, right now, I've been in remission. I wouldn't call real remission, but no evidence of active disease three times, and this fourth time that it's come back, it's spread to my brain. So I'm on all new medications. So I would say that's the biggest update since the last time I've been on here. But I am, you know, I am a perimenopause, menopause, you know, menopause coach, and that's because my audience is growing up with me. You know, I'm 47 so I'm in the thick of it as well. So I'd say that's who I am.Lesley Logan 4:18  Oh my gosh, Amy, I had no idea it had gone into the brain. That is because Brad and I were like, I wonder how she's doing. I wonder if she's back in remission. That has to be hard. Like, is it hard, I mean, or maybe you just don't want to feel sorry, like, maybe it gets annoying to feel sorry for yourself, like, I just want to, like, do you mind if we chat about it a little bit?Amy Ledin 4:34  It is annoying and no, and you know what? I love that you're just like, you ask it, because people don't. So it's been almost a year since I found out that it had spread, and it was a shock. Like, I was really shocked. In fact, I was coming back to my podcast. I'd already recorded several episodes, and then I got that news, and I just, it really did knock me. I really got this, like, just attitude of just, I was really angry. Like, I'm like, I don't get it. Like, what am I doing wrong, which is just the wrong attitude. But that took me a few months to kind of feel sorry for myself. And then it was like going back to all the things that you know I needed to do to, you know, all the things that I always did before. You know, my keeping my promises and having a routine and building these habits and really living in a future, you know, like living as if I am already there. And you know, that helped me kind of come back. But I will say, you know, it's really only been a couple months of me really feeling like myself again, because I've just been battling a lot of that, you know, loops of just, you know, panic and fear, and am I going to be lucky this time? And you know, all of that, so, you know, it's then I've really had to, honestly, just get into a high gear. And this is what I'm always good at, is when, you know, shit hits the fan. I am someone that does the opposite of what most do, and that is, they, they just crumble. Like I said, I had three, I say three months of, like, feeling sorry for myself. I was still operating at what would probably be someone else's like, 85% I think where mine came in was when I don't believe in myself, like, or if I'm having that fear, I can't do, say, podcasting, because it was one of the areas that I have to be super authentic. So it's the first thing that actually goes off the books, and it's actually the thing that I used to love the most, because it was, like my therapy, so I almost have to be in full alignment for me to come back. So like, right now I'm getting ready to relaunch, and I'm actually excited for the first time, because I'm like, Okay, I'm living it. I can share because, you know, you know this yourself, like it's an energy transfer that you're doing right now with other people, and so it is all about having the right energy to really get into that person. And so that's kind of, you know, where, it has been hard. But you know what, like, what makes me feel the best is showing up at a very super high level, levels that people would say, why are you even trying this? And that is just because I am proving that you can do so much.Lesley Logan 7:04  Yeah, I love what you said, like, you know, living as if I'm there, because that's the whole be it till you see it motto, right? Like, it's just, like, we're just getting there. And I just think, like, it's, I feel you in that, like, when something doesn't go my way, like, I am also very good at hitting, like, hitting the fifth gear. Like, when Covid happened, we were in the air coming back from Cambodia. I was like, okay, hold on, what don't they have? They need this. Oh, I can do that. Okay, there's that, right? And that's how we bought this house. Recently, we had a situation, and we got the worst news in the entire world, and the first thing for me to shut down is like, I have to, we talked about this before we hit record, I have to add value. I have to be on integrity. I have to have integrity with my word like that is such a value of mine. So we're going to even though we weren't allowed, what happened is, we're turning around the border with the right paperwork and the right permit, and they still wouldn't let us in. I was like, we're still going to do the event. We're still going to operate integrity. They're still getting everything that they wanted. They just don't get to hug me in 3d but I'm still going to do it. But the thing that had to go away is I couldn't show up on Instagram because I, like, all I wanted to do was, like, cry and go, like, this fucking sucks. But I'm not that person that I'm not the person who does that this fucking sucks. I'm the person who's like, Okay, this is what I went through, and this is what I did, and this is what I'm doing, right? So not that, like, my situation is all brain cancer. I want to make sure the listeners here, I heard that. I can hear that, but like, I can understand, like having to let go of something you love or that you enjoy doing, or that as an outlet for people to get to know you until you're in a place where you can go, okay, how am I going to operate in this way? Amy Ledin 8:36  Well, and no one wants, I mean, I'm not saying it needs to be like this toxic positivity, but day in and day out of someone just like being boohoo is also not a place that's really going to serve anyone, especially myself. I'm really not a big believer in sitting in it, so even when I'm in pain, my family knows I'm rarely going to tell you that I'm hurting or that I'm tired. Just know that's pretty much always for me. But why would I verbalize things like, I mean, your body goes to the direction that you speak to it, and so I just don't do that. So I'll take on the makeup, and I will do my hair and those things, because I see my reflection all day long. I really believe that's a big superpower that people don't realize. Like, you want to see a reflection of what you want to be feeling like, I don't feel that great. But when I see that other reflection of like, I'm like, oh, okay, yeah, versus man, if I didn't do anything, I think it just make me start to go more downhill. And I mean, everybody's different, but I'm a really big believer you got to show up as the person you want to be. Lesley Logan 9:37  Yeah, I love that, and it's true. Like, I not only do I it's not about toxic positivity. We had a really great episode about, like, happiness, and I was, I interviewed her, like, when there was the fires in California, and I said, you know, like, there's a bunch of people who like, why their houses are burning down. They're like, this is gonna mean something. And I'm like, that's not feeling your feelings. Like, yes, I do believe that everything does happen for a reason. I do believe that like, when doors close, it's because another door is going to open. Like, of course, but in the moment, you are allowed to feel the feeling. Amy Ledin 10:06  (inaudible) time. Lesley Logan 10:07  Yeah, like, feel your feelings. Amy Ledin 10:09  No one needs to tell me as I'm getting the news. Amy, this is because you know what, you can handle it. You know what I'm about ready to like, I'm, you know, that was the biggest thing that I really got tired of people like, oh my gosh, you're so strong. Like, I'm actually tired of being strong. You know what I mean?Lesley Logan 10:25  I do know what you mean. I'm going to say you're so resilient. I don't check on you. I'm like, I'm so tired of being resilient over it. But I do, I do think that, like, at what I also cannot handle is, like, why I can't be the person who's like, going to tell you what I'm going through in the process. I don't want the apologies. I don't want the I'm sorry for you. I don't want any of that stuff, because now I have to respond to that, because now I have to say, thank you.Amy Ledin 10:52  Well, I didn't even actually, and, you know, trust me, I'm going through therapy for this exact thing is, I actually didn't tell my family for a few months. I wanted to get like, several treatments, and my, not my, not my immediate family, like Mike's, like my parents and stuff, because I didn't want to go through that cycle right there. I wanted to already have an answer for, like, this is the diagnosis. This is what we're doing. I've already been doing it, and I've even had XYZ because I didn't, you know, you'll not see anything online about it, you know. You know, in our own private, you know, we have a paid group of women, 550 women, that, obviously I did, because I'd lost a lot between one of our training blocks, and I knew they'd see it in the filming. I film every round, you know, videos, and so I was open with them. But otherwise, I'm not that way, because I don't like the I don't like, to go through the phase of, like, let me give you, you know, I'm, I don't need that. Lesley Logan 11:45  Yeah. Well, also, like, it's, you know, you have to feel the feelings. You can grieve, the things that, like, were what you were expecting. And then it's true, we have to go. So what can I do? Like, what are the actions that I can take? Like, what is gonna what if I'm in pain all day, like, what can I do to make myself feel good and like, I agree, like, my days are better when I, like, Get up and get dressed for the day and put things on and like, go, okay, whoa. You know, we nailed that. Amy Ledin 12:11  Yeah. And I mean movement, like, I've had some really rough times over this last year where I've had to learn that if you get no mobility at all, it actually just increases that, the aches, the pains, you know, I had, I think it was like three days that I actually did not leave the house. And finally, like day three of my goal was just to get to the end of our driveway. And I just started to think, like, I mean, even if it's small, that is so much better than and getting sunlight, and, you know, all the things that just, really, honestly, I think, help our body. We're kind of like a plant that we need to, like, get out and, like, get in some soil, and, you know, so that's something that, you know, really, I think, is important, you know, as well. Lesley Logan 12:55  Yeah, I know, like, a body in motion, like, stays in motion, right? Like, it's easier for me. Yeah, I came home from my tour, and my girlfriend saw me like that next morning at the gym. She's like, wow, you're so good at being consistent. I'm like, first of all, I do have a trainer that will not renew with me if I don't check this off on the app. Second, I paid for it, so we're gonna do it. Third, if I use the excuse, oh, I just got home or I have a trip, I will never have, oh, consistent workout, and then I'm always having to start again, and then that is just like, never gonna feel good.Amy Ledin 13:30  And I say that to clients that I'm like, think about the person that's traveling all the time, like you're taking five days to land back into your life from a trip, and then like, five more days to get, like, recalibrated and like, that's just, you know, wasted time, right? So, yeah, and, I mean, you know this yourself, like, having habits, having routine, having structure, is just one more thing that I think helps, like, even your body feel at peace. At least for me, like, that's the last thing I need to be worrying about, is that. So it just feels good to get right back into like, I need to make sure I'm getting my walks in. I need to make sure I'm getting, like, my sleep routine, you know, like, that's a skill in itself, right?Lesley Logan 14:09  Yes. Well, that that is, I mean, like, everyone's like, how's it gonna be back? You must be tired. I'm like, oh no, well rested. Very behind on emails, because my sleep is going to come before my emails. But thank you so like, I'm well rested, all of my all of my Pilates, all of my weight training, all happened, not the emails, you know, you gotta have priorities. Amy Ledin 14:30  (inaudible) with the self-care. Lesley Logan 14:31  Yeah, so, okay, so you brought it up. So kicking off a habits block, because I hate the new year, new you stuff. It's not my favorite thing. I know you like, I've heard you talk about, like, upgrades. Like, I think that each year is a time for us to reflect. And like, we can think about the change what I'm bringing into the new year, but like, you're still you going into the new year with more experiences and and, and also smarter, because you've hopefully reflected on those and you've thought about these things, you experienced them. So I wanted to help people, like, understand how they can be it till they see it with their habits. And of course, you come to mind because people loved Episode Five. It's probably one of the most cited episodes we've had. It's come up many times. People still talk about it. But what are some of the tools that you use to to have habits? Because, my goodness, like, even with you've got five kids, you've got a business, you home school like you have to have habits or probably nothing gets done.Amy Ledin 15:24  Totally and we actually do it as a family. So I'm a big believer, you know, habits are not sexy because they need to be forever. So I'm a big believer in that you've got to make your habits fun, and you got to get creative around gamifying things that help you, like, level up. So you have your like, daily habits that you want to eventually just become forever things like, for me, it's like a daily walk, you know, three liters of water, like things that I just want to be background noise, but for a season, I mean, I may need to put them, like right front and center. And so we started creating something that we call 5 for 50 and it's five habits for 50 days. And the reason we do this is you pick five habits. But the key is, it's five that you need to do for the full 50 days, and four of them you have to intend to keep long term, like, don't start something for 49 days or 50 days that you don't really think maybe, you know, it might be a smaller version of that, but it's daily things. And so we do it as a family, you know, sometimes twice a year, typically like when mom's going through something hard, and I'm like, hey, you know what? Let's do 5 for 50 as a family. Because I always know, then we push ourselves like we just, I mean, I just feel better about myself. And so. (inaudible)Lesley Logan 16:35  And also it sounds like it gives you something else to focus on. You know. Amy Ledin 16:38  It is and and it's fun to see what the kids do like we so we did four that you wanted to do indefinitely, and the fifth one was some personal growth area where you want to dabble in it to see if it's like something you like. So, like one of my son, my 26 year old, he did that he had to draw for 30 minutes every day for, you know, 50 days. You know, my other daughter did guitar. And it also taught them that, like, wow, when you do, you know the compounding effect of this habit over time. And so I like, you know what I like about a timeline on something again, is that habits aren't sexy. They get boring for people. And so when you gamify, or when you do something where you're like, okay, I have a block, I have a start and a finish, what you're hoping at the finish is to drop those off of like you're right in front of you, writing down, and they just have become part of, like, your identity. They've just they you're now just pulled to do those things, because they've just become automatic. Now I test myself once I take them off, if I see that they're not I might reintroduce that like on say, like my DAC cards that I talked about on Episode Five, where I then write them in a structure of, like, these are the things that I'm keeping promises to during the day, but the Five For HIT 50 is really it's a habit one, there I tell my kids, I'm like, these are things that you know, maybe you're even doing them, but now you want to do them with like perfection, because you know how you do anything is how you do everything. Like, I tell people, I anchor my morning with my bed making. And it's funny, because when I make my bed, I literally take everything off. Like, Eric's like, is it seriously that, you know, necessary, to do? I'm like, yes, because it is a metaphor for how I want my day to go and how I want to treat myself, and that I don't cut corners. I don't I treat it like it's a hotel bed where I want the sheet sure. could I pull, like, we hardly move some nights where I literally could probably pull it back, but there's probably some little scenes down in the bottom. And I do find this. I find that it takes I've set a timer once, it only takes me, like three minutes and like 32 seconds, and I'm like the whole time I say mantras to myself, but I say this is a metaphor for how I want to show up. So I tell my kids, maybe they're habits you're already doing. Maybe you're brushing your teeth morning and night, but maybe it's going to be morning and night for the full two minutes, you know, with intention or whatever it may be, right? And what the kids see is these little things that become measurable really build your confidence. They start to think outside of what those are. And they're like, big fingers, you know, I find that my kids start coming up with ideas of, like, businesses, and that's just because they're believing in themselves. You know, like my daughter, she's like, I'm gonna sign up for soccer. And I'm like, Oh, really. Because she's like, going into high school and she's never played, and this was Leilani this last year, and I'm like, I'm so proud of her. Lesley Logan 19:21  She's going to high school? Amy Ledin 19:23  She's grade nine. Can you believe that?Lesley Logan 19:25  I can't Amy because I thought I haven't aged a bit. Amy Ledin 19:30  Yeah. So she, and she decided that, you know, out of the blue, that she wanted to start that, and I knew a lot of it had to do with doing these types of personal development things, where, when you can start measuring these habits like it's inevitable you're going to feel better about yourself. I mean anything from like Atomic Habits that I learned was when you start to even if it's two push ups a day, it's measuring that and seeing that compound effect over time. And it's not about the push ups. I tell people, it's what it represents that you do what you say you're going to do, and that you do it to the fullest. They're not like, half assed, like, that's why when I say what you write, you respect it, like, when you say you're gonna make your bed every morning. Don't just, like, throw it, because that's really how you're going to show up in all these other areas. Are you going to be the person that cuts the corner? Or are you the person that it's like, when I say I'm doing it till 5:30 it's till 5:30. Do you know what I mean, it's not 5:28.Lesley Logan 20:22  I actually really like the idea of like, one of them can be one, you just like, are testing out. Because I do think that when people are creating like habits that they want in their perfectionist tendencies, it's like, it's got to be all or nothing, and they're not giving themselves this permission. It's almost like, let me see like for right now. So I interviewed a girl who talked about tarot, and I said, I've always wanted to know about tarot because I was like, never allowed to play with tarot and and she's like, she's like, she's like, yeah, tarot actually was in the church. It was a way for you to self-reflect. And I was like, oh, well, tell me more. She's like, yeah, no, it was way to self-reflect, and you can actually use it as a tool to kind of figure out what's going on in your heart and your mind. I was like, oh, what a cool way for me to journal. And I have ever since hearing from like, interviewing her. I'm like, maybe I so I was like, I want to learn this, but then when you go to learn something new, it's like, it's hard, it's hard to take in the new stuff when you got the other stuff. And so I've, like, tried different books, and I was like, okay, here's what I do. I'm going to take this app. I'm going to do it for 30 days, but now I'm going to just put as my five for 50, and I'm going to see if, after 50 days, do I still want to learn this. Because it's also okay for me to say, you know, that was interesting and I didn't do what I wanted to do, and that's okay, you know, we can let things go, but we gave it our full effort.Amy Ledin 21:38  And telling your brain you can stop it at 50. Some of these long term habits that, like, let's say meditation, like, let's say you've wanted to dabble in it, but you're like, the idea of knowing it's something you really should implement forever kind of just seems like daunting. I'll be honest. Like, I'm like, oh crap, something I gotta do forever. Let's just wait to do that. But if you tell me, hey, just dabble in it for 50 days, see how you feel now be 100% for those 50 days, because that's the key. Like, it is crazy what happens when you go all in on anything, even if it's five minutes, if you're like, Hey, I'm going to just for five minutes a day, do this like our kids, because we let them choose the duration, and we did allow them within the first week of once we started it, you could change like, like, my one son, he was like, 30 minutes of drawing every day was just too much. I realized within the first few days that like sitting there with something that I'm not even, like, familiar with yet, because he's, like, he's 26 trying to get into it. So he and me, within the first week, we let them redefine the agreement you don't want to wait too long, because sometimes that's just your voice of compromise going, oh, so that's why it's like a seven day window. We say, okay, you've got seven days to come back to the drawing board. And I think he shortened his by 15 to 15 because he's like, realistically, I'm gonna hate it if I tell myself this, whereas, like my other kid was like, I'm gonna bump mine to 20 minutes, because 10 is not long enough or, you know, but it was really good for them to see what they were doing. But the compounding effect, like, I think we had one kid that decided to do, like the tennis bound like every day, just practice the hand eye coordination, which honestly made me realize, gosh, I need to do this, because my hand eye is not that great. He did this for 50 days. You become like a Michael Jordan, like, it is the compounding effect that people do not realize. Like, all you got to do is do something consecutively and like, over and over to get good, but knowing there's an end in sight, like, it helped me get back into journaling. Because I was like, okay, I just got to do it for 50 days. Let's see if this really is, like, worth doing the rehearsal scripts. And at the 50 days, I was like, holy crap. Like, it's actually making me feel better, you know, but I wouldn't have given it a shot, because I'm like, I don't want to add another thing into my life. Lesley Logan 23:42  I love that you said that Amy, because I think you and I, one of the things that, like, we became fast friends, is like, we are committers. We say we're if we say we're gonna do something, we're gonna do it. We show up for it. We have a lot of habits that we're really good at. Some, because we're humans, we like, go up. But I it's also like, for me, I'm like, hold on before I say I'm gonna do that. Like, where is that going to end in my day? Because I don't want to be like, I didn't do that today, because I hate that feeling like, that is my worst feeling. So I too, am like, okay, hold on. But it's like, oh, for 50 days. Well, then I can really see if I like it, and I can also see if I got good at it. I could also see, like, you know, it didn't really change anything. So I can let it go.Amy Ledin 24:21  Totally. And writing it in a scripting way, like I find, like, even with my DACs, one area that I've changed with myself is the way you say things to your brain really matters, and it really needs to be identity shifting, and that you're like, I want to, I'm going to, you know, practice the guitar for 30 minutes every day for 50 days, because I want to show myself that committing to something that typically I resist because it's hard and there's a learning curve, like, go on with the details to yourself so that sticks more, because every day, like growth is hard, like I, I hate to break it to people. It's the only place, I mean, like, hardness is where you actually grow. And, I mean, it freaking sucks, like, when this came back and people are like, Oh, you'll grow. I'm like, you know, I don't want to, but I actually can appreciate after the fact that I'm like, there's another layer to me that I'm obviously, like, uncovering through this. I don't want to be told that right in the moment. I don't think anyone should, and I think that, you know, just and I really hate when people apologize and go, oh, but you have cancer. It is all relative to you. It's like trauma to your body. It doesn't matter if it's like you tripped over a pebble or you got shot by a gun, it's how your body reacted to that and how it sees it. So I never want to discount that, because I feel like my clients have just as big, they feel like just as big of problems in those moments, especially to their bodies, as it does to me. So it's really like trying to be aware of that and seeing your habits, like, why are you making this a habit? You know, what's the reason behind this? Like, I used to be one of those that like make especially when I, you know, probably around when I first met you, it was like making the list and doing the charts. I mean, I have like, seven different journals I was using and trying to, you know, color code. And it just was too much pause and go. I mean, why am I doing this? What is the long term gain of this habit right here? And really try to tie it to the identity that you're chasing. Like, is it gonna help your health character and you becoming like your best self? Is it, you know, or is this just like an ego booster that you're gonna post on Instagram, that you're doing cold plunges? What's the real reason behind it? Because I find that we are so, you know, geared to be like, now we're doing colostrum, next we're doing greens. And my habits to do 30 days of greens. Lesley Logan 26:45  Oh my God, Amy, thank you so much. Everyone is like, on this colostrum kick. And I like, obviously, it's not human colostrum, but like, my sensitivity chart came back, and she's like, human colostrum. And I was like, that's so fascinating. Like, I'm not having that. But I'm also like, I'm also like, not gonna like, now I'm like, I'm like, all there's this. Everyone is like, and now we're on to this now. And it's so funny, because we have been on the on Instagram for work, and we see our friends, and it's like, I do have a cold plunge. I love my cold plunge. I am not going for 15 minutes. I get in there, and the first thing in the morning it wakes me up. That is why I do it. So for habits, why it's like I get it because I I have the hardest time remembering what day it is and why am I up in the morning. And I love the morning. So I get in and I read three books. They're each daily message books, because I wanted to read them. Yeah, I read, Gay Hendrick says, Your Big Leap Year. So I read one page of that. I read, I think it's Melody Beattie's, like Journey to the Heart, and I read someone else's and it's like I read, and they're often different messages, but I whatever one that sticks with me then I think about that as I go on my morning walk, and that's how I do it. And I found that was taking me a long time to get out on the morning walk, so I have a cold plunge for that, but I find, to your point of the why, why are you doing this? Because it's the end thing to do. It's what they're saying the next perimenopausal woman should be doing or shouldn't be doing, because I have people like, you shouldn't be cold plunging. I'm like, back off. It makes me feel good.Amy Ledin 28:12  It's a crazy world. I mean, I'm even in the industry, and I even say, wow, I feel for females these days. Because you know what? You get really bamboozled. I mean, people even, like they're doing a real they'll even show, over here, like a medical journal study, that they'll pop up and go and according to this, you should, well, now, if you're smart like me, and you want to be, you know, funny, you go check what that is. Well, it'll be like a research study on like, 85 year olds. And I'm like, man, context, please. But because they're like, a white coat doctor, and they're coming, you know, like, and they have 100,000 followers. And trust me, I am guilty of it too. When I was looking for back help, I'm not a chiropractor, so, like, I'm at the mercy of what I find. It's just like a person coming to the fat loss space, right? So I'm looking at, like, oh, they have a million followers. I mean, you see this in the Pilates space. Like, it's really, really scary. I think we're going to get back going full circle. It'll start to be referral. People are only going to trust who has because now everyone's been through something, and they've all had an experience. So now they're like, tell me who you (inaudible).Lesley Logan 29:18  I actually agree with you, because of all the AI stuff. Like, now I'm like, I actually go to Brad and go is this real? Do you think this is real before, like, I share it because, like, it's so easy, and now there's so much marketing that's using chat bots and AI that I think people are gonna stop using the socials to find even though that's where they it's been going that way to start finding things. I think people are gonna stop because it's gonna be referral. Because, like, you do. You know a real human who's acting like a real human, and it's but I agree. I mean, you're in the fat loss space. I'm in the Pilates space. I have so many people going, well, this is Pilates, and I'm like, no, honey, it's not, but no, I'm not going to go around telling people what is and isn't, because I'm not here to be in a fight with people. I'm here to help people. So I'm not going to help with an imitation.Amy Ledin 29:59  We're the same. I don't have enough time in my day to come hate on what you're doing. You if you think what you're doing is working for you, do it. I support you. And I think there's more than one way. Now, I think Pilates and I think even strength training, there are certain biomechanical like things to it. But I am not going to be a person that's a coach that sits and just like trashes everybody else you know, and does videos about them. I don't think that that helps, you know, personally, I think, and maybe it does, but the energy that I would be working in in that space would never make me be a creator in the way that I want to be, because I think I'd just be, you know. Lesley Logan 30:35  Oh, I just think in the industry you have, yeah, and I think so I feel like I love the honesty and like, it's so I mean, like most of the people listening are women, it is so easy to be bamboozled, but what I love about you and your ideas here, it's like, what do you want? Like, what do you want? And then why do you want it? Because I actually don't think that your why has to be something stellar, but you do have to know why. Because I think, like, do you want to run a marathon because you want a habit of running? Well, then we can, we should probably don't have to run a marathon. We can change the habit. Or are you wanting to run because you have a friend that you want to keep up? Or is it because you want to, like, what's the why? So that you can, one, test the habit, and your Five for 50, or two, maybe it's the wrong habit, like, maybe that's not the thing that you should be doing. Once you figure out the why, there might be an easier or more accessible one to you.Amy Ledin 31:29  And make the habit something that long term is going to give you the biggest bang for your buck. Maybe it's not following a macro plan right away. Maybe it's actually meal prepping, like I, you know, I tell people, do you have to earn the right to lose fat? So like my daughter Kamele, this last year wanted to go on like, her first diet, and she's 22 and so I said, well, before I'm even going to give you a meal plan that has macros on it, you need to prove to me that you're actually going to live the identity of the fit person. Fit people, they prep meals. Fit people have a fridge full of stuff. They don't come home and have like, I mean, that's just not how they live. They fuel themselves, right? So I said, what I want you to do is just set some meal times improve over the next few weeks that you're going to pack meals. I don't even care if it's I don't care what it is that you're packing. It's the habit of the identity of that person. And then I broke down the macros, and it's great, because she doesn't associate, like being a fit person, because she's lost 20 pounds, because she just dialed in and titrated those meals. But it was all about the identity of that fit person and how now she's like, I don't associate it. She goes, it's funny. In fact, everyone at my work, she works at Lulu, and they're like, wow, Kamele, you started eating more, and now you're like, 20 pounds lighter, because she was, like, packing her meals and being on a set, you know, routine with it, and fueling herself, right? And so, plus, it taught her too, this was it's not about your macro breakdown, honey, because she even lost weight, even just packing the meals and, like, living that way. I said, it's because you were intentional. You were prioritizing protein. You were eating on on a, on a, on a routine, like set times your leptin and ghrelin, like that, like, so find those five like in those habits. Maybe it's something that's going to get you the bigger you know, the lower hanging fruit. And honestly, to the brain, meal prep sounds a lot easier than follow my macros 100% for 50 days. That can seem really daunting to the person that's like, struggled, maybe they've had food issues or binge issues and all that. Lesley Logan 33:26  I think this is I will always highlight. I love when, like, all my friends who are coaches of this space, most people are just not eating enough, and they're not eating intentionally. And so, like, I just, like, want to highlight, yes, well, you can often eat more and lose weight, if that's the journey you want to go on, most people start eating enough or not eating the right things. But I love, you brought up, this a couple times, so let's just break it down. Identity, like the identity of the person. So it's like, it's beyond the why. It's like, who you want to be and what do they do, and then doing that now.Amy Ledin 33:59  Yes, it's totally around your Be It, it's like you need to write. I mean, it's like, we make our clients create a health character. What does she look like? What is she wearing? What does her daily routine look like? What's her fridge look like? What's her closet look like? What size is she wearing? Not that those matter, but they do to your brain to start to really see and paint the picture, because they've done too many studies in all these areas, whether it be, I mean, lottery winners, big, huge studies on why do almost 95% of them go bankrupt after we're talking like tens of millions of dollars if they win. Because, you know what, their identity is, still of a poor person. Right? So fat loss, 95% of people that lose it actually regain, it's already hard enough to lose it, so you work so hard to get there. So I don't, it's why that's such a big part of the component for our clients is the last thing I want to do is see you in two years from now, because you just got really good at disciplining yourself for a season. I want this to be who you are, and you got to commit to who that person is, and what does that look like for that person. You know what I mean?Lesley Logan 35:02  Yeah, yeah. So I think that's, it is totally Be It. It's just like, it's like, I want to start a business. Like, well, what does that person do with okay, the business is working. It's rolling. It's all the things you thought it would be like, how do they get up? What do they wear? What is their schedule like? What is that happening? And then, because you start to do the things or thinking like that. It makes it so much easier to step up the next thing, yeah, no, the macros thing like. Amy Ledin 35:25  It's not a threat. And look at it from a brain standpoint, your brain does not see it as a threat. It comes back to like, it's like the Sasha Fierce with Beyonce, like that was a create a character she created. My business character, I named her Amy Blakely. It's after Sarah Blakely. I pretend that I try to show up as her because I'm not as outgoing and as creative and fun and bubbly as Sarah. But when I create that character, my current self doesn't see it as a threat. If I just say I'm just playing this role, you know, I'm coming on the podcast, playing a role that helps me show up as my best self. Like I think a lot of us, like, forget that we have to, you know, we got to do it enough to become it, right?Lesley Logan 36:05  Yes, yes. Well, I think, like, so many people go, oh, this is like, I don't want to fake it till I make it. You're not because, like, I have found, you know, like, you have a bad, let's just say you have a bad night's sleep, but you have a presentation that day. You don't go and go, guys, I'm so tired, and give you a presentation. No, you step up to the person who could be the person who believes that does a presentation nine times out of 10. You actually feel better when the presentation is over, because you you are acting as if you're the person who was doing a great presentation and became that person. That is what's happening. Yes, yeah.Amy Ledin 36:38  And epigenetics shows us like, you know, if you follow Nicole LePera, I've got to give her credit, she's been doing these, what they call Future Self Journaling, where she believes that every day you should script out your day. We do a version of it in our community where I want them to even script out like their their day as a as their health character. And because of what we've seen in the brain is that the more that you wire that future of like it sure, it's not who you are yet, but it's who you want to be. Your brain actually doesn't see the difference, and they're now seeing that the brain wires that way. So if you're in your 40s, 50s or older, I always say if you have struggled with fat loss, and you are already at this age, you have a rewiring issue that you need to address. Because if 95, 91% of your thoughts every day are the same, statistics will show me, you will continue to come back to this old person that you say you are and talk about and believe in. So if you're trying to become like a business owner and become like owning a Pilates studio or whatever it may be, you have to start scripting. And the older you get, and I just say it's (inaudible). Lesley Logan 37:40  So like, do you just like script out like, 5 a.m. 6 a.m. or do you like go, I am so and so doing this, like, what does it look like?Amy Ledin 37:46  It's doing this, it's more of a behavior like you'll have an outline of, like, I, you know, as I wake up today, I effortlesly, you know, keep my small promises in the morning. And you might at first detail them out, because the whole point is to this doesn't change very often, your script stays the same because you're trying to work on an area of your life, like in therapy. It's like, if you're an overreactor, if you're struggling with worthiness, it's it's a daily thing, because you're trying to show that you can change who you are, and now epigenetics is proving it, which is positive. Because here's the thing, you may have been born into someone because now they're showing with epigenetics, like it's connected even in the womb. So that really was hard for me, because when I got pregnant with Leilani, I was in a really, you know, I it was broke up my family, you know, I'd had an affair. So my pregnancy came in a place where it was a very unwanted pregnancy, and I talked, probably very negatively to myself. Well, this next book that Nicola is coming out with talks all about how they're showing and so those children can actually already be born anxious and have like attachment styles based on just the way that you have talked. So at first I was like, man, what a depressing thing to hear. But her whole point is to teach us like we're all broken humans, like we've all come from some sort of crap. And so the power of this book was to teach us that our brain is actually the neuroplasticity and our ability to change. If you're an introvert, you can become an extrovert. If like you are, you know, you say you're one way, you really can actually change. And it's doesn't take long, you know, it's 50. It's kind of similar to habits. It's about that 60 day mark we're we've tested it out with clients. I've done beta testing, and now we make it a part of our program where for 60 days, I have to do this journaling, because I'm so tired of women grunting their way to reaching their goals. I want it to pull you. I want your identity to pull you to become that. And a lot of them are starting to go why is it suddenly feeling easier to meal prep stuff that I like my lazy self, you know, is always fighting. I'm like, because you're scripting about a new person, and your brain is just seeing that is the place I need to go. It's like, it doesn't even know the difference. It just thinks it needs to do it. So less resistance. So same thing with these habits. Try to find, you know, some connection to that identity, the way you write it because you want to have less resistance. You don't want to be like you know, otherwise you will try to use motivation to do it and it never is lasting. Lesley Logan 40:09  Motivation is this interesting thing that everyone thinks they need. Once I'm motivated, and it's like you just, and we'll talk about this in the habit series I've got coming out. Like motivation is one of the worst things you can it will help with something really hard. Like, if you have to do something that's really difficult, motivation is very helpful to, like, it's like the starter in the car. It only works to start the car, right? This is as far as my car metaphor is gonna go, because that's all I know about cars. And then it's like all the others. It's the gasoline. It's you putting the gas, putting your foot on the pedal, all that stuff. So but people think it's gonna, it's gonna show up every day. I cannot wait to be motivated to do anything. I would get nothing done. Nothing would none of the things I built would have have been built because of motivation. Amy Ledin 40:51  Yep, yep. And it's kind of aligned with willpower. I will say a book, I don't know if you've read it, but you would love it, and he'd be a great person to have on because I think he's a small author. It's called Willpower Doesn't Work, and it is a whole book on he's got studies in there, charts that show essentially that it is all about your environment. Like that is the key that most people it's it's everything, whether it be friendships, it be your actual physical environment, that that is way better than because willpower is finite, and like, you can't count on that. It's why, in the morning the cupcake is less tempting than, say, like, at night. So like, instead of, like, having the willpower of having that cupcake here all day, why is it at night? I want it. You need to see that your environment is more powerful. Hey, decision fatigue at the end of the night, I don't need to have things out that I'm already weak to or, anyways, you would just love it, because it's just made me stop shaming myself for stuff that I'm like, seriously, I need to change the environment. You know, I've even said to clients, the best time to really change a big habit, like a bad habit, like, I had a client, she's like, every night we sit on the couch, we eat a snack. I said, Hey, when's your next time you're out of town? Because having a break from your environment and then coming back into it is the best time to shift into a new habit. Now for the next several days, don't even sit on the couch like let your brain completely because it is all about connection and loops, you know, for most of us at this age.Lesley Logan 42:16  It's true. It's true. This year that I'm doing we talk about how to unravel a habit you don't like, and it's one of the things, and I'll dive deeper in the episode, but it's like, how what is the prompt that starts the sitting down on the couch? There is something that starts that, and if you don't know what that something is, you can get rid of your couch, and you're still gonna find something to sit on, because there's a prompt there. Amy Ledin 42:39  It's true. And yes, because it's it started earlier. I have a client right now that we've realized her overwhelm with work makes her go to any like, highly palette. It doesn't have to be chocolate chips. At first, she's like, it's the chocolate chips. I'm like, girl, no, tomorrow will be something different, but it's not about the pantry. I'm like, it starts earlier. And that you start to see failure in your day and overwhelm, and that loop is when I'm failing okay, this is kind of like my coping mechanism, you know, so much, and so it's interesting. I'm like, man, I feel like we're therapy one on one. But even in, you know, someone that wants to have a business, they're all parallel, all of it, because it's a personal development journey.Lesley Logan 43:18  Everything, whatever it is, like, that's why I like that identity and like you can see yourself in like different things. Anything that you want to do, and how it's like it, it we, it works the same. You, it's you have to prepare the environment. You have to know why you want to do it, and then you have to tell you have to believe that you can. And I think like because like you, you cannot shame yourself into something you want. It will not work. And you talk about, like, the clients, like, grit themselves to getting there, and then they're just be back in two years, because nothing changed, and they didn't become who they wanted to be on that journey. Oh my gosh. Okay. I mean, I, obviously, I could talk to you forever about this, because, like, this is just something I like to nerd about. But I just love that we think the same way on this, because it's really, it's really easy, I think, for people to, like, want to start 17 new things at the same time, or like, they, you know, and like, it's an I have to do it for an hour, and it's like, hold on, like, let's, you know, we got to adjust the timeline of what it is. And I really think, you know, making sure you know why you want to do it. The script thing is a really cool thing to add to it. I have to say, like, I kind of like the idea of like writing yourself a script for the day and how it's gonna go, that's a be it till you see it, and also, like a manifestation and a drawing in, I think that's really beautiful, Amy. Well, we're gonna take a quick break, and we're gonna find out where people can find you, follow you, work with you, and then we're gonna do your Be It Action Items. Amy Ledin 44:36  Okay. Lesley Logan 44:37  All right, Amy, where do you hang out? Where can they stalk you in the best way? Amy Ledin 44:42  I am, I'm on Instagram, you know, under amy_ledin if you are, like, still a Facebook person, though, I will say that is, like, where our business really lands. So it's under Lean Bodies Consulting. I post daily there, and then, you know, by the time this episode's out, my podcast, you know, which is called F* It! so you can find me there.Lesley Logan 45:00  I love your podcast. It's so great. I also want to say, like, I admire that you take pauses when you need to with it, because I think you are so good at podcasting. You're so wonderful at it. All of your episodes I've ever listened to are so good. And you're also allowed to be a human and take time for yourself. You have given us so much already, but you know how the show goes, we need Be It Action Items, bold, executable, intrinsic or target steps people can take to be it till they see it. I mean, the whole episode kind of was one, but anything you want to add or remind us.Amy Ledin 45:29  Well, you know what? I actually tied it to your acronym, to the DACs, and it's like, bold, one agreement that matters, like, pick one, like, maybe you need to start just with one. Executable is your E, you know, like, write it in real words, not vague. So be specific on what you're really shooting for. The intrinsic is link it to how you want to feel, not just like, how much you want to weigh, how much money. Like, how do you really want to feel there? What's the money? What's the scale going to give you? And then targeted, today, not someday. Like, be very specific.Lesley Logan 46:01  Oh, my God, that's brilliant. You're so good. I love it so much, you guys. I can't even wait to hear how this episode goes. It's just so fun to have you back and see what you're up to, and also just be reminded of, like, how powerful we all really are. Our minds are really powerful. And I love the science behind that. That book sounds amazing. I can't wait to read it. I'll have to have it on. You know what, before I go. And I'm gonna say this, because, in case anyone knows this person, I'm trying to get hold of them, there's a book called Love Yourself Like Your Life Depends On It. And I'm gonna, I'm gonna do a little series on, like a self like, a week long series on self-love. Because everybody who talks about, I burnt out, I'm this. And the book the author, he says, You'll never burn out if you actually love yourself. Because if you truly loved yourself, you wouldn't say yes, when you mean no, you would actually, like take time for yourself. And that's so like, I think those two books sound like a nice little bookend, but also, like everything we're talking about here today, it's, it's all part of it, you know, it's all like holistic it's, we're not little compartments. So thank you for being you, Amy. You guys, make sure you check out her Instagram, her podcast, her Facebook. Tell her what your favorite takeaways are. You can tell me, I love it, but also tell her these words of affirmation are our love language also lets us know what your favorite parts are. Share this with a friend who needs to hear it. You know, it's actually kind of difficult to go through all these like 5 for 50 alone. Sometimes it's kind of nice to have some friends to do it with, or your kiddos to do it with. And until next time, Be It Till You See It.Lesley Logan 47:27  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell break down the powerful conversation with keynote speaker and coach John Mollura, exploring how perfectionism, procrastination, and overthinking quietly chip away at your self-trust. They unpack why these three all stem from fear, how they derail the small promises you make to yourself, and why that matters more than you think. This recap is your reminder that confidence isn't a mystery; it's built through honest awareness and daily follow-through.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:The shift from self-judgment to a seeker mindset that opens new direction.How changing lanes later in life reflects growth rather than starting over.The Big Three that derail meaningful actions by operating from fear.Breaking your own commitments as the root cause behind loss of self-trust.Why honoring tiny choices today makes you a hero to your future self.Episode References/Links:Black Friday Cyber Monday Sale - https://opc.me/bfcmOPC Winter Tour - https://opc.me/tourPilates Journal Expo - https://xxll.co/pilatesjournalCambodia Retreat Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comAgency Mini - https://prfit.biz/miniContrology Pilates Conference in Poland - https://xxll.co/polandContrology Pilates Conference in Brussels - https://xxll.co/brusselsPilates on Tour - https://www.pilates.comSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsJohn Mollura's Website - https://www.johnmollura.comJohn Mollura's Free Resources - https://www.johnmollura.com/freestuffEpisode 119: John Mollura - https://beitpod.com/ep119Episode 592: Dr. Jill Allen - https://beitpod.com/ep592 If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! 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And he said, all three of them share the same root. Okay, what is the root of perfectionism, procrastination and overthinking? Lesley Logan 0:15  Drum roll please. Brad Crowell 0:18  Fear.Lesley Logan 0:21  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 1:03  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the encouraging convo I have with John Mollura in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause this now. Go back and listen to that one, and then listen to this one, or listen to this one and then listen to that one. They're fun, back-to-back, to be completely honest, in whatever order you want to do. And John Mollura, he said this is his second time on the pod. Brad Crowell 1:28  Yeah, the first one he was in the hundos. Lesley Logan 1:27  Yeah. I know. Is that crazy? It's insane. Brad Crowell 1:28  Yeah, yeah. Like this probably puts him almost 500 episodes ago. Lesley Logan 1:34  I know. Who else should we bring back? Send it in, guys. Brad Crowell 1:38  Let us know. Lesley Logan 1:38  Today is Thursday, November 27th 2025 and for Americans, it is Turkey Day. Brad Crowell 1:46  It's Thanksgiving Day. Lesley Logan 1:47  Yes, but it's also for Americans and anyone else wants to celebrate, Un-Thanksgiving Day. Brad Crowell 1:54  That's right. Lesley Logan 1:54  Let's, before people get upset, this is what Un-Thanksgiving Day is. It's also known as National Day of Mourning, or Indigenous People's Sunrise Ceremony, is commemorated on the fourth Thursday in November. That is on purpose, because, well, I'll tell you more in a second, this place, it takes a place on November 27th but it just happens on to be on the same Thursday as Thanksgiving, because it's always the fourth Thursday. And it actually there's a big thing over on Alcatraz Island in San Francisco Bay to honor the indigenous peoples of America and promote their rights. And the reason why we do this is because, well, there's also, naturally a mourning is what they do in Boston, but what they do in happened in at Alcatraz is when it was no longer being used as a prison, the indigenous people went and took over the island, and they lived in it and inhabited and controlled it for 19 months. And it's kind of amazing. It's basically them taking their land back, which is very beautiful on we didn't do this because we'll have episodes come on Monday, but I really love that on Columbus Day, the day formerly known as Columbus Day in this household, but known as Indigenous People's Day, somebody, somebody posted a meme that said a reminder that on this day in 1492 indigenous people discovered Columbus lost at sea, or whatever day it was. I don't know if I heard the year correctly, but I love it. It's like, yeah, you fucking discovered this place. You so. So anyways, if you're like me and Brad, sometimes these holidays are kind of hard to celebrate, because, like, of course, I want to spend time with family. Of course I'll spend time with friends. Of course, we need days off, and we do need some joy, but I think finding new ways to educate ourselves and then celebrate those people is wise. Brad Crowell 3:48  Yeah, or just to have some clarity around the history of a holiday, you know, like, like, like, historically, the Romans would take the conquered people's holidays, and, you know, morph them so that the people could still celebrate, and then over time, things would change, you know. And now, all of a sudden, we have, you know, things like Christmas or Halloween or whatever, you know. And they've been, they've been basically taken over, and Thanksgiving is, is, I don't think Thanksgiving was taken over, but Thanksgiving has a different premise.Lesley Logan 4:22  There's a folkloric story about, like, what happened I'm like this, but (inaudible).Brad Crowell 4:25  But it's, well, it's, yeah, it's well, it's, it's that, you know, we came, we saw, we conquered, kind of thing and we did that. But it's a day of thanks, right? Thanks for this new land that we took from people. So, you know, thank you for that.Lesley Logan 4:41  It's like a bully kicking a kid taking a lunch, going, thanks, man.Brad Crowell 4:43  You know, so so I still think that we can have a day where we we are thankful for the things that we have and family and those things. But I think it's also fair to to to recognize that, you know, like that, like for the native people of this continent. They they want to remember their history too, and the genocide of indigenous people that happened when we came over here, so.Lesley Logan 5:12  Yeah, and I just think, like, Hallmark washing, and no offense to that company, but like, just making everything, like this beautiful day to like, you know, go out and buy decorations and all this different stuff. It's like, I think you can have a day of thanks, I think. But I also think, like, it is, it is important that we're educating ourselves about the people that have been hurt by this kind of stuff, and also, like, have a day of thanks and be thankful for them and what they did on, you know, for this land before we got here. Brad Crowell 5:39  Yeah, Thanks for Thanks for going down that journey with us. Lesley Logan 5:42  Yeah, Happy Thanksgiving Day. Brad Crowell 5:44  Yeah, it's intentionally on Thanksgiving every year. It's the fourth, same as the fourth, fourth Thursday of November. Lesley Logan 5:50  So and you know what? Here's the deal, if you're like guys, thanks, totally understand. You know, honor them every day. And I love Thanksgiving. That is very, very cool. But for some people who are having a hard time right now with this holiday, we just gave you one. You're welcome.Brad Crowell 6:04  Yeah, all right. Coming up it is. We are in the middle of our Black Friday Cyber Monday sale right now for OPC, onlinepilatesclasses.com. Just go to, actually check your emails. But I want to say it's opc.me/bfcm, Black Friday Cyber Monday, for the short link for that. In December, in literally a week, we leave and we hit the road. We are driving to Colorado. We're gonna be in Colorado Springs. We're not gonna review all the days and the locations and all the things.Lesley Logan 6:32  There's 23 of them. Brad Crowell 6:33  There are 23 cities, public stops there. And we have, you know, definitely more than 50% sold out. We are more than that already as we're recording this, and you know. Lesley Logan 6:44  Powered by Balanced Body, so we're gonna be bringing our Controlology line with us. We'll have some prizes from them. You don't have to be a Pilates instructor to come. You don't even have to have done Pilates for you to come. (inaudible) my fucking friends have come, and they don't, have never done it before. So you are welcome to bring a family member or ditch them and say that you have something to do for work. It's important. Everyone understands. So go to opc.me/tour for tickets in the remaining stops. And then what's also happening later in December, because we're not doing a Black Friday, Cyber Monday sale for Profitable Pilates this year, we are doing something special December 26th through the 31st so, but you'll need to have the be on the email list for Profitable Pilates. So if you're not on that list, you need to get on that list, yeah, and go do that. And then after our tour is over, we come home. I fix my roots, I change my nails, I launch a mentorship program, and then we drive out to Huntington Beach. Brad Crowell 7:40  I think I'll shave while you're doing all those things. Lesley Logan 7:40  I mean, you'll have your shave going on, but you'll probably need a trim. So we're gonna go, we'll be at the Pilates Journal Expo in Huntington Beach. It's the first time the Pilates Journal is doing an event in the States. It's a humongous lineup of teachers, some that I, who I used to take from when I was a baby Pilates person, and some that I've taught how to teach. So it's kind of crazy. So you'll want to go to the Pilates Journal Expo to join us on that party, xxll.co/pilatesjournal. Then we're home for a little bit, thank goodness, because, like everybody and their mom is wanting to visit in February, and, oh, there's more in January. Brad Crowell 8:05  Yeah, there's more in Jan. So we're gonna be.Lesley Logan 8:12  It's also my birthday. I don't see that on the events list.Brad Crowell 8:17  For those of you who've been interested in joining us on a Pilates retreat where we hang out, we decompress from all the insanity that this life has for us. Each and every one of us is different. Go to crowsnestretreats.com. Get yourself on the waitlist. In January, we're going to be doing our pre sale, our early bird for our retreat for next year, which will be in October at our home in Cambodia. We're actually going to be doing a call at the middle end of January. It's not yet on the calendar exactly, but we're going to have a call, and we're going to interview a couple of our past attendees. We're going to hang out, we're going to talk about the trip and all the things that everybody's ever wanted to know. It's going to be great. So come join us for that, but you got to be on the waitlist for that. Go to crowsnestretreats.com to get on the waitlist. And then in February, something that is really I'm passionate about as well, is Agency Mini. Okay, so as you know, we coach Pilates business owners, and we have a coaching program and all those fun things. But people ask, you know, often look at it and go, I don't know if I'm ready for a six month commitment. No problem. That's why we created Agency Mini, and it's a three-day program. Okay? Used to be seven. We've shrunk it down to three, because we all know how crazy life actually is. It is a really powerful three days, and you should join us for that. Go to prfit.biz/mini prfit.biz/mini. That's profit without the O.Lesley Logan 9:35  And then we get on our plane for the first time in almost six months. Brad Crowell 9:39  Which is insane. Lesley Logan 9:40  Insane but so delicious. I'm sitting here knowing we have six months not. Brad Crowell 9:45  Of no flying. Lesley Logan 9:46  So it's the really ridiculous thing. But I saw it on the day we were at the airport some reel which is like, Have you ever been to the airport and you realize, like, every time I go to the airport, it is everybody's first time on this earth. And so I was just like looking at people, and honestly, I had more empathy for them. I'm like, well, it's their first time here. And then we pull a move where we like, just stop in the middle of the airport, like you did, like, like people do, and then we're just like, turn and like, I'm like, so sorry. Brad Crowell 10:11  Cutting people off. Oops.Lesley Logan 10:11  Like, I was like, oops, I'm so sorry. It's our first time on this planet. They didn't understand what I was saying. But I laugh my heart out. But anyways, we're home for six months, and then when we get on a plane, it's a big deal because we are going to be in three different countries, teaching in the content, continent of Europe, because I can't say the EU anymore, since the Brexit. So school year, we're starting to right, I have to like London and England is its own thing. Brad Crowell 10:37  Almost positive. Lesley Logan 10:38  I have to say, like the European continent, so annoying, but we'll just say,Brad Crowell 10:44  Yeah, it's considered part of Europe geographically. Lesley Logan 10:46  But not the EU. Brad Crowell 10:47  Although technically it's the European continental shelf. Anyway, no, it's not the EU but it is part of Europe.Lesley Logan 10:54  It's like when we were in John o'Groats, and we had to be so specific, we couldn't say we were at the top of the UK. We had to say we're at the top of the mainland UK.Brad Crowell 10:58  Right. Because there are islands north of the mainland.Lesley Logan 11:01  Or top of mainland Scotland. So okay, so in March, we're going to be in Poland at the Controlology Pilates Conference, xxll.co/poland Karen Frischmann is doing that with me, and it's really fun. We haven't been back there in a couple of years. Really, really great time. Really cool people there. So I can't wait to see you guys. And then the next weekend we'll be in Brussels. Els Studio tells and you want to go to xxll.co/brussels same, two teachers, very different workshops, also private sessions. So choose the adventure you want to go on, check out both lineups, and pick the one you want to go to or come to both and hang out with us in two different countries, why not? And then in April, Brad and I will be at the POT in London. We're very excited about it, it's my first POT in London, (inaudible) I know it's, it's gonna be a great time. It's gonna be a really fun to see all those people. So pick the one you want, my European fabulous people, because that's it for 2026. That's all there is. Brad Crowell 11:59  So xxll.co/poland or slash Brussels. Eventually we might have slash London, but they're not. They don't even have a landing page up yet to buy tickets for that. Lesley Logan 12:08  From the time that we're recording this. Brad Crowell 12:08  Yeah, we're just, we're putting it on your radar. So go to pilates.com and go see their continuing education. That's where they have all that information about future POTs Pilates On Tour. Brad Crowell 12:19  All right, so this week, we had a question for you from Natalie. Lesley Logan 12:25  Hit me with it. Brad Crowell 12:27  @nathalieds9011 asks on YouTube about the video, How to Take Your Pilates Practice Outdoors. She said, hey, how about doing Pilates outdoors during winter in Madrid, which is where I am, winter is not extreme. I have a big terrace, which is where I do Pilates. Since inside my apartment, there's just not that much space for me to move.Lesley Logan 12:43  I mean, if you live somewhere where it's beautiful in the winter, fuck yeah. Do it outside. Tag me in a video. Take one of my classes on OPC, or Pilates Anytime or on YouTube. And I want to see your, I want to live vicariously through you, because, let me tell you, I would love being in Madrid in the winter. Instead, I am in the winter places. Brad Crowell 13:04  I'm in the winter places.Lesley Logan 13:04  I'm in the places where winter happens. But I would, love that's great. I mean, like, when I did that video, I was being conscious of, like, if I say, you do it outdoors, I'm gonna get someone say I can't. It's negative 21 degrees here, and it's gonna be 115 here. So I have to, like, you know, be considerate, because some people just don't feel seen. So you, my dear, are in the blessed space. We actually have a couple OPC members who also live in Spain, and they do their Pilates outside all year long. So please, rock on. Do it, but, but basically, when you're doing Pilates outside, there's just things to consider. You can check out that video we did on YouTube, because I'm not gonna list the exhaust, exhaustive list that I gave on there, but we just did Pilates in Cambodia, and something we have to consider is, like bugs, you know, rain. We can do it in the rain there, because we have a covered patio, but as long as the rain isn't going sideways, which can happen, then we have these things that we bring down to make the walls. So it's not so much water on the patio, but the mosquitoes don't care, so we have to we have extra fans that like make it harder for them to land, you know. So there's just things you want to think about when you're doing Pilates outside, and I have blue eyes, it is really difficult for me to do outside Pilates when there's no cover. I was doing, early in the spring, I was doing yoga outside in the morning, and it was fine, as long as I was in down dog, but the moment I came up, the sun was in my face, and I was like, well, this isn't this is terrible. I need sunglasses, but you can't do sunglasses. You can't work out with sunglasses. So like you just it looks stunning. Just make sure you have things set up so that you're not constantly distracted from your workout, about being outside. You know that's all. Brad Crowell 13:06  Love it. Lesley Logan 13:06  If you have a question, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534, or submit them at beitpod.com/questions, where I would like you to send a win as well. I'm being demanding here. Come on. You have a win in your life. You do. You wanna know something, one of our retreaters would. Brad Crowell 13:06  You wanna know something. Lesley Logan 13:06  You wanna know something. One of our, one of our retreaters shared a win one day after our retreat. She said, I only said, I'm sorry two times. It was amazing. Like, if you walk around like, that's a fucking win. Huge win. Instead of walking around, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Like, she just said, excuse me, and then when she needed to, she said, I'm sorry, and she's like, oh, two times it was such a win. So those are the wins I want to hear. I don't need to hear, like, I have my biggest launch ever. Okay, great. That's wonderful. I'm super excited for you, and you can send that in, but like, there were little wins along the way. And if you don't celebrate those you are, you're unlikely to feel fulfilled for a long period of time. So send them in. Brad Crowell 13:37  Yeah, I just looked up on our board we have a win. Lesley Logan 13:37  Great. Brad Crowell 13:37  I'm gonna read it. Lesley Logan 13:37  Oh, okay, okay great. Brad Crowell 13:37  Big win this week. This is from Jordan BB, I've neglected using my Wunda Chair for quite a while now. So I decided it was time to break out my Chair Flashcards. I started working through the order and whatever bits of time I had available each day, starting from the top of the deck each day to get to the to get the repetition. By the time I got to my second week, I started feeling connections in my body that the week previous, I couldn't have even dreamed of. Exercises that felt impossible to move were actually moving. But even better, I felt more connected to myself. Super excited to add my Chair back into my regular rotation. Thank you, Lesley for the amazing flashcards. Lesley Logan 16:32  I mean, I'm so grateful for you. And don't click that off, Brad, because I'm going to say it on FYF so she can hear it on one of those episodes. But thank you like that is so freaking cool. Brad Crowell 16:42  Great job, Jordan. Lesley Logan 16:43  I just want another shout out to Jordan. She is also a listener who, when she discovered this podcast, went back to the beginning and listened to every single one. Brad Crowell 16:51  Wow. Lesley Logan 16:51  I know. So pretty big deal. Pretty amazing win. All right, Jordan, you're amazing. I'll put that in FYF so you're gonna hear it twice, because what if she misses this episode? All right, let's talk about John Mollura.Brad Crowell 17:05  John Mollura. Okay, so stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to talk about John. Brad Crowell 17:11  Welcome back. All right, let's dig into this convo you have with John Mollura. John is a personal coach and keynote speaker who helps people move from fear and hesitation into confidence and action, which I love that. For 15 years he had he led test operations on NASA missions before stepping into a new chapter as an award winning photographer, with work featured in National Geographic. Today, he shares those experiences through coaching and his signature talk, Elite Level Confidence, giving people simple tools to build trust in themselves and take consistent action in their lives. Look, we, Lesley and I have, man, we connected with John three or four years ago now, and. Lesley Logan 17:52  At least, he was in the hundreds. So.Brad Crowell 17:54  Yeah, look, if you like to read newsletters, John's newsletters are great. He really takes time to write enjoyable newsletters, and I read them. Lesley Logan 18:05  You don't read anything. Brad Crowell 18:07  I don't really read anything. So John's newsletters are really fun. So I really like that. I feel like I've been along his journey with him, as he's shifted from engineer to photographer to now being a speaker and a coach, so we're really fired up for him. It's been awesome to have him. He's coming to speak to Agency, our coaching group multiple times, and his content is available for those who are members of Agency. And then we were like, hey, man, would you like to be back on the pod? And we got this epic episode. It's like this episode felt like a mic drop moment on every chapter of the conversation that y'all, y'all were having, you know, talking about confidence, talking about perfectionism, talking about all these great things that, I, I literally listened to it twice. So. Lesley Logan 18:58  I love that, that's so good. Well, thanks for doing that. I mean, it's so fun to have guests back and see where they've gone. Some people have gone further in the same lane. Some people have switched lanes. Some people have reversed and then rewound and, you know, like it's and so he has switched lanes. But really it seems like it all aligns, because he, basically what I like that he said, which goes with what I'm just saying, is that he talked about, it's being really important to be aware. Like, the more aware you are, it's actually a really powerful thing and and it's because when you have a seeker mindset, right? Like, that's going to help you, when you have that curiosity, it's going to help you in what you want to be and what you want to do. So clearly, he was in that seeking mode, that being aware mode, and that's where he's like, Oh, I'm a, I'm an award winning photographer, I'm a NASA engineer, but I actually really want, I'm feeling called, to do this thing over here and it lights me up, and that, you, just going to Gay Hendricks like, that's his genius zone. Like, it would be so easy for him to it's, it's a what does Gay call it, like, your whatever. Like, there's a zone of excellence, which is his photography, but his own genius is this. And I just really loved it. He also said, like, when you are being aware, it's important that you don't judge yourself with your awareness. Like, that's where the critic lives. You like things you'll say is like, well, that's not gonna happen. Or, like, this is never gonna work. But instead, shifting into that seeker mindset and having awareness and curiosity.Brad Crowell 20:23  Yeah, that, so, okay, this part, I thought, was really heartfelt, because he already in his adult life with kids and a wife changed from being a, I'm guessing, stable, high paying government job, where he's an engineer for NASA, to an unstable, potentially high paying, but who knows, job of being a photographer. Now he happens to kick ass at being a photographer, you know, but he said, the engineering job, he quit. He started something else. He got another engineering job, then realized that still wasn't the right answer. Then he started doing something that he found fulfilling. And then after a while, was like, this isn't doing it either. And then decided to make us another change in his adult life. And he's like, I honestly didn't even want to tell my wife, because she'd already been on the journey with me getting out of being an engineer. And now I'm like, thought I was doing the thing I wanted to do, but I'm not feeling it, you know, it's not actually the right thing for me. And and then, you know, and so he has, what I thought was really great, is you threw in there. Well, look, it was maybe we end up thinking that we need to do this thing for because we made the decision, right? For me, this really resonated with my decision to go to college for music, right? And I left. And then my whole time in Los Angeles, for the for the first decade I was there, I was like, I am a musician. That's how I defined myself. It's how I saw myself. I am in a band. I do perform. This is what I do. This is who I am. And when you started, when that started to shift and change and not be that anymore. I was like, well, what do I do now? You know, that I'm not, you know, can I do something else? Like, am I allowed? Because I felt (inaudible), I had literally spent $80,000 or whatever was going to college. I don't even know. A lot of money, you know, going to college to be a musician, you know, am I, am I like, is it okay to not be a musician anymore? You know, while I still can think of myself as a musician today, that's not my primary thing that I'm doing, but it was just one step along the way and and I think it's okay for us to be making these changes in our lives. You know, my I never talked with my friend about this, but my high school buddy went to school to be an engineer, right? He went to Germany, he came back, he was doing all this really fancy engineering stuff, and then somewhere along the way, was like, I this isn't it. And then he went back to school to be a doctor. Like, I was like, wait, you signed up for like, four more years of school after already going to, like four or five years of school. And, you know, now he's a doctor, and I have to imagine he really likes it, or he wouldn't keep doing it. But that is quite a path to jump from one to another, especially when the foundation to become a doctor again, you're, you're starting over, in a way, you know, so.Lesley Logan 20:25  Yeah, I think that's and I think that clearly in that instance, like, he must have had to be a seeker and not a judger in his like, well, this is gonna work. Oh my God, it's four more years of school. Brad Crowell 23:33  Judging himself. Lesley Logan 23:39  Like, using himself, you know, or what like, and this is like, this is the hard part, right? Because when you share some things, it's really, really important who you share stuff with. Like, I think sometimes some of you who are listening, you so badly want someone in your life's love that you're telling them the thing that you're wanting to do, and they are not your cheerleader. It's not because they are an asshole or trying to be an asshole, it's that they are in the critic zone. And so you have to be mindful, like, who you're sharing your dreams with, until you feel the muscle is very strong. And I don't think that that was, like, why he didn't want to share it with his wife, but we were very clear, like he was just was just like, now we're starting all over again. But like, I do think that, like, there are, like, when we told my grandfather we're in Cambodia, he's like, it's not safe there, right? And we're like. Brad Crowell 24:32  What's he, like, all he's doing is projecting his own fear. Lesley Logan 24:34  His own fear, you know, and so, so just be mindful those of you who are listening, who are like, in the curious space, in the awareness space, and you're feeling called, yes, you have excellent investments and other things you've done in your life, but you're being called to do something else. Be mindful that you tell the friends who are like, fuck yeah, you should do that. The other people in your life, you'll tell them when the muscle is a bit stronger, because I would just be afraid that their critic will come out and bring your critic to the party, and we don't need that.Brad Crowell 25:05  Well, I think, I think the high level here, you know, the conclusion of this thought is awareness plus curiosity is a win, right? Awareness plus curiosity, it enables progress, right? So no matter where you are in your life, no matter what projects you're working on, if you have both awareness and curiosity, you will be able to move that ball forward. So love that. And speaking of your grandfather, that leads into what I really loved in a roundabout way, you'll get, we'll get there. Lesley Logan 25:36  I can't wait. I'm excited. I'm looking at these notes. Did you know, my grandfather?Brad Crowell 25:41  I did. So the big three that John talked about, this was a whole nother chapter of the conversation, and this is where I kept saying, these are mic drop moments, you know? He said, hey, look, you know, it's not even about perfection. It's not even about procrastination. He said, in fact, there are the, these are the big three things that I talk about all the time, perfectionism, procrastination and overthinking. He said these three behaviors constantly derail us from doing the things that we want to do, or the things that we say are so important for us. And he said the thing that they're like they don't, all three of them share the same root. Okay, what are, what is the root of perfectionism, procrastination and overthinking? Lesley Logan 26:22  Drum roll, please. Brad Crowell 26:26  Fear. Right? And this is what your grandfather was, was applying. He was, he was projecting his fear on us. And that's when, when you share something with someone, be cautious of that in the sense that they are, they know you really well. They love you. They want the best for you. And they are going to immediately, like, look at it and see what is the problem that that could happen here. And they're going to push that out there and right? And that could be really deflating for you, especially if you aren't yet, like you don't yet have surety in the place you're going, you're feeling it out right, because that, like they don't want you to be hurt or fail, or any of those things and fear is that that root, and it's easy for that to blossom into these things, perfectionism, procrastination and overthinking. And he said, by understanding that fear is the root of these three people, can now get honest with ourselves and begin asking, what is it actually that I'm so scared of? What is it actually? I can't remember who it was, but a couple weeks ago, we had another episode. She was a business coach. Lesley Logan 27:37  Oh, Jill. Brad Crowell 27:39  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it was, I think it was her. She said, what am I afraid of? What's the worst could happen. I could go bankrupt, right? And I was like, well, that's a pretty big deal, you know? But for her, she was like, okay. Lesley Logan 27:52  Jill Allen. Dr. Jill Allen.Brad Crowell 27:52  Dr. Jill Allen, yeah she said, okay, I could go bankrupt. And it's like, well, okay, but she acknowledged that, like, what am I so afraid of, if that's the worst that could happen can that be overcome? Like, is that like, it doesn't it's not something to laugh at. But what if it do? What if it does happen? Lesley Logan 28:10  I don't know. Do I share this, like, my, I remember my trainer when I was, like, thinking of breaking up with my ex, and I was like, just like, not. He's like, what are you afraid of? Like, I don't. He's like, you're not gonna die. Like, he's like, to me, the scariest thing, the thing that, like, the ultimate fear, is death. And you breaking up with him, you're not gonna die. Like, in my situation, I'm sure that that's not the same for other people, but in my I could, he would just let me walk away. And I was like, oh, I'm not gonna die. That is, that is I can do like, I love this question. I think it's really important to reflect on and journal about Brad Crowell 28:40  What am I so scared of? I remember being my first I just moved to L.A. and I had no money, and I got a job at this restaurant. It took me a week to get a job at a restaurant of where I walked around to, I don't know, a dozen more, I don't even know. I would evaluate the restaurant, see how busy they were at dinner, decide, could I make enough money here, and then, do I want to work here? Does this seem cool? And I would put in an application, and I went to all these different places, and I finally got this job, because I went back a second a third time, I really wanted to work at this restaurant. And I then I met these guys, and they offered me a job. And I called my best friend at the time and I said, hey, man, I'm thinking of doing this. And he I said, but I'm worried. I'm worried about, you know, like, they're gonna pay me a salary, but I've, I've, I would be, I would have to give up my restaurant job. And he's like, you can get another restaurant job. And I was like, oh, you're right. Like, that's so true. Lesley Logan 29:37  Yes, yes, even in a shitty economy, there's always an opportunity for something. It might not be, you know, it might not be the the restaurant job, but it would be a restaurant job like, you know, like, there's just, there's, there's options.Brad Crowell 29:52  Yeah, so I just thought that was really astute of John to take these three things, which we all have dealt with, struggled with in our lives, perfectionism, procrastination, overthinking, connect the dots that there's fear is the root of these three things, and then how do we how do we lean into that? What are we so afraid of? What are we so afraid of? Lesley Logan 30:18  Yeah, and your fears are allowed to be like, they could be legitimate fears. And then at least the power is removed when it has air, you know, like the power of fear is really removed when you just, like, put it out on the table. And at least then you can figure out, like, well, what would I do if that happened? You know, so I loved it. I loved, you know, John's, we posted the tour, and we'll be at Rehoboth Beach Delaware. Brad Crowell 30:42  Yeah, it's, it's really close to where he lives.Lesley Logan 30:45  I think it's really close. I think we should finally fucking see him. Brad Crowell 30:53  Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be good. Lesley Logan 30:57  John. Brad Crowell 30:57  We're calling you out, John, we're calling you. Lesley Logan 30:57  We're gonna, we gotta talk. Brad Crowell 30:57  We're gonna call you. Lesley Logan 30:53  We gotta talk about food. How about coffee. How about a happy hour?Brad Crowell 30:57  Love it. All right. Well, stick around. We'll be right back, because we've got some great Be It Action Items from John as well. Lesley Logan 31:04  John, you can also text us. That's fine too. Brad Crowell 31:06  Yeah. All right, we'll be right back. Brad Crowell 31:10  Finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What are the bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items that we could take away from your convo with John Mollura. He said, confidence is the ability to trust yourself. Confidence is the ability to trust yourself. Most of us are showing up for the person we've made a commitment to. Okay, I'll pick you up at six. Okay, I'll do the dishes. Okay, I'll take the trash out, right? You're committing to someone else. I'll do my homework. I'll do this thing, whatever. But we constantly let our own selves down. And it doesn't seem like a big deal. Lesley Logan 31:48  It is a humongous deal. You say you're gonna go to bed at 9 pm and you don't go to bed till 10, you are literally taking a drop out of the confidence bucket.Brad Crowell 31:57  Yeah, and it's subconscious. You might not be like, oh, can't believe it. Oh, I didn't go to bed at nine o'clock.Lesley Logan 32:03  Please, please listen to the habits podcast, and don't do that.Brad Crowell 32:05  In your in in your belief you're chipping away at the foundation of confidence that you have in yourself when you don't uphold your own decisions to yourself, right? And you might not realize that that's happening. But he explained the actual root cause of people's lack of confidence is that they're not showing up for themselves, and meaning that loss of self-trust because we consistently and continually break commitments we made to ourselves time and time again, that will it's it's fascinating, because John is an engineer first, so he still thinks and talks like an engineer, even though he's very creative with photography and now working with his clients and coaching. But he started talking about data, you know, or the data, sorry, and so he said, he said, you why, why don't we uphold these things to ourselves? Because we never have upheld these things to ourselves. But we can change that. We can rectify that by starting to keep these promises to ourselves. When you start to give your brain a new set of data to work with, instead of the old data of broken self-promises, right? So how do we do that? Small, consistent actions that aren't a big thing, but over time, they add up to I am consistent. I do this thing. I do wake up, you know, earlier. I do go all the things that we say we want to go do, but we don't uphold we don't do them. Why don't we follow through? It's because we never have. Well, we can change that by making these small decisions, day by day.Lesley Logan 33:38  Agreed. I loved these, he gave us some questions, and this is really fun thing for you to journal upon. It said, when making conscious decisions on honor one's future self, one must ask, is what I'm going to do or not do going to cause me to be a hero to the future me? I love this like I love this. I look back at the the me in 2013 who made that big decision, go, I'm a fucking hero to myself, like, I thank God I fucking did that when I did it, because my whole life was like the domino effect of like, everything that I wanted. So yes, right? The goal is to ensure that when you meet your future self, you are not staying there tired and disappointed because you failed to go after it. Like if you ever said, oh, by this date, I want to have X thing. And then you didn't do anything, and then you got to that day like, I wanted to be over here by now. Well, the effort thing, it's not like I have missed dates on goals that I was working towards. And there's a difference between actually working towards something and the deadline is further than you thought, than not doing anything at all, and getting to the deadline,Brad Crowell 34:47  I think, I mean, I was thinking about goal setting and all that kind of stuff. Like, okay, this, this quarter in business, we're gonna do $100,000 and you, you know, work, work, work, and you make only $60,000 but it was more than you've ever made before. It doesn't mean that you like didn't make that you didn't keep a promise to yourself.Lesley Logan 35:09  Right. Well, were you, were you the person who could like, did the effort you put towards it, could it have been $100,000 if the stars had aligned? Then, then you should, whatever you land with you should celebrate, because the person that you made yourself be to do those things is the goal, is the journey, right? Is the hero. So the action should result in you high fiving yourself and saying, thank you for honoring me. Thank you for doing that, that the thing in that moment. He also said, you can call him. You guys, I have not like, that's insane, free calls. And he also gave some free resources over on his site, on johnnmollura.com, that's John with an H-N-N.Brad Crowell 35:10  Yeah, J-O-H-N-M-O-L-L-U-R-A dot com, johnmollura.com. Lesley Logan 35:49  Yeah. So check those out. I love it. John, you're such an inspiration. Thank you for sharing your journey with us and the Be It Till You See It babes. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 36:06  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 36:07  Thanks for joining us. How are you going to use these tips in your life? Tag John. Tell us. Send this to a friend who needs to hear who needs to be a hero in their life, and until next time, Be It Till You See It.Brad Crowell 36:17  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 36:19  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. 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Lesley Logan welcomes back personal coach and former NASA engineer John Mollura for a powerful conversation on confidence, fear, and self-trust. Together they break down why so many high achievers feel stuck—and how it's not about time management but the fear hiding underneath. John shares how to quiet your inner critic, lean into a curious 'seeker mindset,' and rebuild trust in yourself one small promise at a time.  If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How fear of failure kept John from setting goals or making plans.The “two-by-four” life moments that forced him to realign his purpose.Why photography revealed a deeper coaching calling after years in corporate life.Why true confidence begins with keeping the promises you make to yourself.Why fear drives the “big three” — perfectionism, procrastination, and overthinking.Episode References/Links:John Mollura's Website - https://www.johnmollura.comJohn Mollura's Free Resources - https://www.johnmollura.com/freestuffEpisode 119: John Mollura - https://beitpod.com/ep119The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks - https://a.co/d/0DUsv01AmeriCorps – https://americorps.govBrand Builders Group – https://brandbuildersgroup.comGuest Bio:John Mollura (pronounced muh-LAURA) is a personal coach and speaker who knows what it's like to feel stuck—despite a resume that says otherwise. For fifteen years he led test operations for NASA missions as a literal rocket scientist before becoming a multi-award-winning photographer, with work featured by National Geographic. But behind the achievements and titles, he battled self-doubt, perfectionism, and the fear of taking the next step. John didn't just break free—he built a framework for lasting change. Through a powerful blend of science, storytelling, and strategy, he doesn't just inspire—he equips people with the tools to take action, build confidence, and create real momentum. Get ready to move from hesitation to action, from fear to confidence, and from stuck to unstoppable. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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Because here's what happens, is we're lying to ourselves. We say I'm going to wake up and go to the gym, or this is the year I'm going to start eating healthier, or I'm going to floss my teeth every night. Like, pick a commitment you've made to yourself. If we continually break these commitments time and time again, well, guess what? Our brain recognizes I can't trust me.Lesley Logan 0:28  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 1:10  Hi, Be It babe. How are you? Oh my gosh. Okay. We have a blast from the past, an amazing person, that every time I hear him speak, I'm just like, yes, yes that, yes this, yes, that, oh, say that one more time. So you guys are gonna want to repeat this. This is an episode on perfectionism, procrastination, overthinking, confidence, fear. It's really good stuff. And our guest is John Mollura, and I'm really, really excited. And if you haven't heard from him on episode 120 I highly recommend, after you listen to this one, go listen to that one, and just see how far people come in such a short period of time, we think three years is a long time, and it's like, you know, like, it isn't, it happens quite quickly. So anyways, you're amazing. John's amazing. This episode is for you. Here you go. Lesley Logan 1:57  Be It, babe. We have a blast from the past, and like the past, I cannot believe that it's I can't believe how long this podcast has been on, because it feels like I just got started, and I'm like, still getting my groove, but John Mollura is our guest today. He was from Episode 120, oh my God, okay. John Mollura, in case people haven't been with us since Episode 120, can you remind them? John Mollura 2:16  And you should go back and listen to all those if you have not.Lesley Logan 2:21  Well, they're gonna have to. Because I think we're gonna share, what I'm excited about is to share a journey. Like, whenever I have a guest back on, it's like, we get to, like, see where you are, and people get to go, oh, wow, behind like, you don't see behind the scenes very much, and you don't like, we just think, like, things just happen, and the light switch just turns on, and everything works out. So tell everyone who you are and what you're rocking at now.John Mollura 2:45  Hey, everybody. So second time guest here on the Be It Pod with my good friend, Lesley. And fun fact is I actually live right up the road from her hubby's parents in the first State of Delaware. Lesley Logan 2:58  It's really hilarious. John Mollura 2:59  Right? Small world, small world. So what I am up to? I am a personal coach, and no one is more surprised to see me in that position than me. Lesley Logan 3:08  I don't know. I had to be really honest. We'll go on with your because, but I just want to say, like, your talk, (inaudible) like, three years ago, about imperfection was so good, like, to me, you were like a coach over a photographer. But anyways, tell everyone why you're more surprised.John Mollura 3:28  Yeah, and I'm talking like, longer than, like, the time you and I have been buddies, but like, just throughout my entire life, dude, I, like Forrest Gump-ed my way through, like, never really had a plan, and I came to realize the reason why I never had a plan is because if you didn't have, like, a plan and a target and goals, guess what, you could never fail. And I was so afraid of failure, like I never wanted to, you know, put my name on something, be like, this is what I want to do. So that is why I say I've, -like, Forrest Gump-ed my way through. And I I'm surprised I'm here, because it was never the plan, because I never had a plan. Lesley Logan 4:05  This is so fascinating. I think people just freaking like, were like, caught, like that, like, caught, you know, because you just said, If you don't have a plan, you can't fail. And I'm afraid of failure. And I think there's a lot of people who have been just like, it's a lot going on, it's really hard to make decisions in this time, like, you know, and it's like you can do that for so long, and at some point, like, there's a calling that you have, the universe is going to force you to do it. Do you feel forced?John Mollura 4:38  So I like to call them two by four moments, Lesley, and these are those moments in life where the universe, or God or who, whomever you believe, is kind of orchestrating all this. If you're not paying attention enough, they whack you upside the head with a two by four. And you find yourself in these situations where it's like you're just forced into these changes, and you know you don't have to answer the call, but the price you pay is that you just have this just spiritual discontent with inside of you, and that is such a yucky and exhausting feeling.Lesley Logan 5:13  Yeah, it really is like, and I think anyone listening like, I can think of times when, like, I feel like I got hit by a back truck, and then you're like, why didn't you tell me before the Mack truck came? And then you look back and you're like, there was a little flashlight right there, and then there was this like thing over here. You ignored those so I had to hit you with a Mack truck to get your attention.John Mollura 5:37  Yeah, yeah. There is a story that I like to tell when I'm doing like a small group, and it's like people are like, you know, they they end up at the pearly gates, and they're like, God, why didn't you save me? And that is like, what are you talking about? It's like, I sent, I told you to leave the house before it flooded. I sent you the news report, and you didn't listen. And then when you climbed on your roof. I sent you a boat, saying, hey, get in the boat. And you said no, and then I sent a helicopter, like, what else do you want? So we don't, we don't pay attention to these signs all along the way.Lesley Logan 6:10  We're expecting it to say, John, this is for you. Like, Lesley, this is yours. And the truth is, is that, like, you know, we all get choice. That's what we were given. We were given this choice to listen or to not to listen, and those choices have consequences. So if you choose not to listen, you get hit by a two by four, hopefully before you drown. Hopefully, hopefully you pay attention before you drown. So, tell, can you take us back to some of the two by fours that kind of shoved you this way? John Mollura 6:40  Yeah. Yeah. So, so my my career again, like starting back with my career after I graduated engineering school from Penn State in like 2001 shout out, Nittany Lions, we are, is I ended up working in the space program. Right?Lesley Logan 6:58  Yeah, which is so badass. It's like the, I mean, it's what every kid grows up to wanting being an astronaut, you got to do that without going to space. But, like.John Mollura 7:06  Space Cadet, yes, astronaut, no, but I did get to work with them, and the reason why I literally fell into that job was because I lost out on an internship with Disney in college and taught rock climbing for the summer, and that actually was what bubbled me to the top of the guy who hired me, who was former Special Forces and he said, Hey, look, I'm like, why'd you pick me? Like, I had, like, a decent grade, other than my shining personality and, you know, rapier wit, why did you pick me, Skip? And he said, I don't need another, you know, gosh darn egg head on this team. I need someone I can send out into the field and not get me or themselves killed. He said, you're smart enough. So again, like, you know, I wasn't planning on ever being a rock climbing instructor, but I was offered the jobs I know other options. That's what bubbled me to the top, where I worked in the space and defense industry for 15 years, leading test operations for NASA and working with elite military units, and a big two by four moment came in 2009 right after our first child was born, where, like, I really felt like I wasn't going to be a good dad, just because, you know, my past trials and traumas. And then right after that, one of my best childhood friends intentionally overdosed and passed away, and I was I was a mess. I was an absolute wreck. And, you know, I can remember thinking, Well, maybe he got it right. Maybe I shouldn't be here. And for whatever reason, I said the Serenity Prayer like it popped in my head.Lesley Logan 8:41  Isn't it funny how we all know that prayer, we all know, like, if that prayer is like, right there, it's like, so like, like, we're, I feel like we're born with it, like it's so good.John Mollura 8:49  Yeah, yeah. And for those of you, you know, here's a variation I love is, you know, accept what is, let go of what was, and have faith in what will be, you know. And like, as soon as I finished it, I felt this warm sensation and like, you know that that's when I found, like, true religion and freedom. But it wasn't like all unicorns and rainbows and stuff like that. It was quite the opposite. It was where, like the proverbial scales fell from my eyes, and I realized what an a hole I was in life to protect myself. So that started me on this journey of faith and getting my, you know, just seeing how the world saw me, and I built up this like superhero exterior, but really just to protect the wounded person inside. And as I really came to terms with that and started healing, I started realizing that, wow, this job that I have, like you said, which is, like every kid's dream, like, you know, former 80s kid, like you we grew up watching Star Wars and, you know, all the things like that. I was like, this job isn't satisfying me. This isn't this isn't where I'm supposed to be. I'm good at it. I'm world class at it. But, man, I'm just not happy.Lesley Logan 9:58  Yeah, yeah, that's what Gay Hendricks would call from The Big Leap, he would call, like, your zone of excellence, but not your zone of genius. And, like, It's uncomfortable to be in the zone of excellence for a long time. People think you're weird, but like, you just don't like, you're like, I this, I can do this in my sleep, but it's not challenging me. It's not making me feel satisfied. John Mollura 10:19  Right? Yeah, that's not bringing life into me. So I went and, you know, did the responsible thing, and as a now father of three, and got another higher paying job in engineering, and was even more miserable and out of alignment. Lesley Logan 10:32  Just wanted to make sure. John Mollura 10:34  Yeah, just wanted to make sure this is definitely not for you. So almost, almost eight years ago to the day. We're recording this in early April, on April 7th of 2017 was when I walked away from corporate life and turned my side hustle photography in my full time gig. And it, you know, it was filled with a lot of ups and downs. You know, I had the opportunity, like National Geographics featured my stuff. I photograph my Grammy winners, like all the cool things, but it never really took off. Right? So here, you know, we're already up to two, two by four moments. There's, you know, the death of my friend and my spiritual awakening. You know, realizing this, like, dream career wasn't serving me. So if you're counting along, that's two, two by fours to the head, I don't catch on real quick. And then, actually, our initial conversation, and I looked it up, was in January of 2022, shout out, Brand Builders.Lesley Logan 11:34  I know, I know. Oh my God, that is, that is, I mean, we met, I guess, that is crazy. This podcast has been on for a long time.John Mollura 11:42  Yeah, and it wasn't even about the podcast that was about a webinar. You had this like, zany idea to be like, Hey, does anybody want to talk about imposter syndrome? I'm like, What's that? So I, like, Googled. I'm like, Oh my God, that's what I had even like as I was getting, like, letters of commendation from the military, like I felt like I didn't deserve it, and I was like, one screw up away from, like, failing and like everyone seeing I was faking it. So during this photography career, as the photography was starting to slow down, that came into my life, that came into my path, and then that turned into a keynote, and then the keynote turned, you know, into another keynote called elite level confidence. And that started getting traction. Meanwhile, my photography business is going down, right?Lesley Logan 12:30  Yeah, I'm going to challenge you on that second two by four. I think that the second two by four is a door, like a bridge or just like a guide, because I think, like, you would never have been in the room that you were in. So I feel like, maybe there's a second, two by four. And just like, hey, this photography thing is a beautiful hobby, and you're really good at it, and it's another zone of excellence. But like, they're, we're calling you over here. But I just think, like, I think, like, the everything happens for a reason, and you were in that room because of photography, you know, or maybe there was something inside you that was like, calling you to go for more, and maybe you knew about this coaching thing sooner. But I think, like, I wonder, like, would you have gone from engineering to elite level coaching? Like, you know what I mean? Like, I.John Mollura 13:14  Right, I mean, it all falls together. You know, when you're looking back at the path, it's like, oh, that makes sense. But yeah, in the moment you're like, what the heck it's going on here? Lesley Logan 13:23  Yeah, so okay, I remember, because I get your emails, I remember when you're like, oh, I'm not doing this for I'm closing my studio. And I was like, wow, I hope he's not going back to engineering. I'm so happy you're not. But you know, like, I was just like, oh, because I've been in this world long enough and like, it's really, it is really difficult to whatever your passion is, whether you're a photographer, listening or not, like one of my dear friends, like she makes her magic happen as a photographer, but it is you absolutely can get paid for your passion, but you also have to remember, it's still work, you know? And if it's not, if it doesn't serve you and your family, then it's not serving you, and you have to, like, change it. So, okay, how did you be it till you see it, from photographer to coach, because that I feel like, you know, like, how did you address that? How did you come to terms with your heart? How did you tell your family? How to tell people that I feel like people get stuck on like that, but what are people gonna say? What? How do I explain why I changed again?John Mollura 14:20  Yeah, and that was a lot of internal dialog when I was like, oh man, I'm starting to feel this, this just spiritual discontent again. And I'm like, I've wrestled with it. I'm like, are you kidding me, John, like, like you already had, like, a dream everybody wants. Like, you worked in the space program. You literally worked with astronauts and fighter pilots. Like, how cool is that? And then I did photography again. A lot of people like that. They're like, my dream is to be a photographer full time. And I'm like, oh, no, this isn't really filling me up anymore. So that was something I really wrestled with, Lesley, like, like, I didn't want to tell my wife, who's been on this, like, roller coaster with me, like, because I was embarrassed. I'm like, what is wrong with me? Why am I just such a like, you know, then all the negative voices start, right? It's like, you're a malcontent. You're never going to be happy, you know, all the things and but what I realized, what I really leaned into, was the truth of the matter, was, especially after Covid, because the photography I did, like headshots, portraits, things like that. So I was always working with people, and I saw such a change in people's demeanor. Like, I get it. Being photographed is not anyone's favorite pastime, really. But, like barely.Lesley Logan 15:31  I love it, but I'm weird. John Mollura 15:33  Right. Yeah, there's a very small percentage of people, but you know, every photo shoot would start the same. Good luck getting a good picture of me. And it's like, okay, yeah, that before, but there was something different, especially after Covid, where people just had this just lack of confidence in themselves. So I started realizing, like I was doing coaching sessions with people, just to get them comfortable being in front of the lens of the photo shoot they paid big money for.Lesley Logan 16:02  That's insane. I can totally see that 100%, yes.John Mollura 16:06  Yeah. So that's, that's what I really started leaning into. So my first coaching program that I came up with a couple years ago was called Authentic Men of Action. Because, you know, Rory Vaden, who actually brought us together through his Brand Builders was, he always says, you're best suited to serve the you that you used to be. And I'm like, God, I was a mess. So I thought, let me create this program to to work with men, to really help them take action and get after what is important to them and best serve people that are in their lives. And again, it kind of took off. But then, like, women started reaching out, like their girlfriends and wives, and they're like, Hey, can, like, we get in on this? And I'm like, okay, you know, cue all the limiting beliefs, you know, tripping up like, Oh, you gotta know what to say. You're gonna know how to help people. John Mollura 16:52  Almost like, you know when to, like, hit the button. You're like, okay, here they are. Like, just come at me.John Mollura 17:01  Yeah, yeah. And my wife's like, she's like, you know, you're a father to two daughters, you're a great husband. Like, why don't you just see how it goes, John, and quit over thinking this. Like, okay, so yeah. Then I opened the coaching up to the women, and then the keynotes started. Were with which turned into elite level confidence, you know? And it's just been a beautiful progression of just listening and seeing what the need is, and then answering the call and not letting those limiting beliefs stop me. Lesley Logan 17:24  Yeah, I think it like it takes, in the ideal world is like each time you get to know yourself and what you want more, and that each time you be it till you see it, like the space between hearing and limiting beliefs and still taking action, ideally, gets shorter. Like, I actually don't think that you they just go away. John Mollura 17:55  They never go away. Lesley Logan 17:56  I think if you're not a narcissistic, egotistical sociopath, like if you are, they never go away. You just recognize it. You're like, Oh, I know this station. I can actually just turn it off. Like, thank you. You know, like, I get to, I get to turn that off now, and I think that's so interesting. I also, like, was want to highlight, like, I do think that there's a massive confidence problem, and no one is like, you know, the coaches I've worked with, because I worked with a lot, since I'm in the fitness world, there's a lot of people who are like, you are, like, creating fitness programs so women feel confident. And the truth is, as my coach, is correct, no one is actually Googling how to get more confident, right? Like they're Googling, like, weight loss or whatever, but what they are wanting, the byproduct is confidence. Now that we've on the other side of Covid, I do think there's a lot of people who reckon, who are like, defeated, you know, and, and because, especially people our age who, like, you know, graduated, like, went to college in 2001 graduated to the recessions, you know, then once we started getting our legs under us, then Covid hit. Like, it kind of can feel like, if your evidence is every few years you get knocked down, you may as well stay in a safe place which doesn't make you more confident, it makes you have some dissonance, and that is where a lack of confidence comes from. So I do think that more and more people are needing it and even more aware, but they're using the word imposter syndrome and and other things to to describe it. Okay, you've done speeches before because, like, you had, like, you've had the career with, with space and all that stuff. But like, what was it like to give your first keynote under this, like, this iteration, this, like, next level, this, be it till you see it version of you?John Mollura 19:40  Yeah, one of my coaches told me something that really resonated with me, and now I share it with with my clients that want to, like, do keynote speaking. They said the best thing you can do to reduce the nerves is not to focus on yourself, because if you go out there with this mindset of, like, Oh my gosh. I need to, I need I need to, I need to not forget any lines. I need to hit my marks on the stage. I need to. I need to just, just, just, just crush this like, that's when it goes completely sideways, yeah? Because it's all inward focused. So being switching the mindset of like, okay, I'm gonna go out here. I'm well rehearsed. I've done the preparation that I need to do, and I'm doing that not so I look awesome, but so I can best serve everybody that's out in the audience. So the first time I gave that talk, you know, I did like the rotary thing, where I talked to rotary groups and get my legs under me and refined it. The first official time I gave it was to a group of people that had just completed a year of service with AmeriCorps, and they were transitioning out of that volunteer space. And now, you know, going a lot of them going back into whatever organizations they helped with, but also taking this knowledge and going forward, and they and they've changed, during these years of service.Lesley Logan 21:06  Yeah. Who they were when they started is a very different person, you know. John Mollura 21:10  Right, right. So I partnered up with AmeriCorps because they were, the leadership realized that when people would leave, they were they they didn't, they were kind of rudderless, because they weren't the same person going back to their lives they had before. So they brought me in to speak to them. And is a very beautiful thing about like ways we can sabotage ourselves with, with just, you know, whether it's it's perfectionism or having this kind of lone wolf mentality, building walls in our relationship, you know, focusing on, like perfectionism that leads to procrastination and overthinking and all the things it was helping them see and just be aware of these, these things that will pop up.Lesley Logan 21:55  Yeah, yeah. I sorry to hit you off. I think like understanding how we sabotage ourselves is one of the biggest things we could ever do for ourselves. So you mentioned perfectionism, lone wolf. What are some of the other like ways we can we can sabotage ourselves because we look at it as like it's happening to us, but really we're doing it to us.John Mollura 22:17  Yeah, yeah, yeah. So and that, that's where you know, my newest free resource that I've is on my website for people, it's The Six Leverage Points for Success, and it talks about, you know, creating legacy for yourself, like, how to honor this future you that is out there. You know, how to build your confidence. And we'll, we'll chat about here in a moment, about, like, the like, the real reason, like, why a lot of folks' confidence is lacking, talking about the ways that we can put more structure into our relationships, because people don't like to say, I'm going to put boundaries up, because that seems, you know, like they're keeping everything else. Like, no, it's not about putting walls up around. It's about putting walls up, but then putting some gates in with some quality guards that are there.Lesley Logan 23:05  Yeah, yeah. There's a lot of freedom in a boundary that people don't see it like they see it like as a cement wall. And it's like, well, it's actually just like, a guideline of how you can treat me in this situation. But okay. John Mollura 23:16  Yeah and then helping people understand the value of like focus, because so often when we're on these journeys, like, what are we doing? We're looking to that person over there, and then we're looking at their Instagram account, and then we're, you know, next thing, you know, you're completely side you know, you've spun yourself into the ground because you're looking at everybody else instead of keeping your eyes ahead. And then then finally, talking about helping people get into action. So that that's, that's kind of, those are kind of the ways that I've realized people have been sabotaging themselves. Like, okay, this is what they are, heads up, because awareness is so powerful. Yeah.Lesley Logan 23:52  Yeah, yeah. I mean, like, I I think, like, every time I think, like, something is like, not working, I can actually, if I just, like, take a moment after being upset about what's not working, so, oh, I actually tried to this by myself, or I guided this, like, focusing on, like, where my marks are. Where am I doing this, as opposed to, like, how is this impacting them? Why is this the thing that they need? Like, I can see, like, where I, like, got inwardly focused and sabotaged myself when really, like, I know the answer. And I guess what the cool thing is, you can actually pivot. You can actually just make changes once you're aware. But you have to be aware of these things to see them, yeah.John Mollura 24:34  Yeah and there and there's, there's, there's another component to that, which I found is really powerful, is that it's not just being aware, then it becomes very important that we're not judging ourselves with our awareness. Because when you're judging yourself and you're aware, like, I call that like, that's where the critic lives. Like, these are the people that have had their hearts stomped on, and they're like, never, this is never gonna work. This won't work. No one will want it like that's being judgmental and aware. Where we want to be is we want to shift into, like, what I call being the seeker mindset, which is where you're aware, but then you use, I know, one of your favorite words, which is curious. When we're aware and curious, man, that's where beautiful things happen, right? Yeah, that's where, like, we're a seeker, and we're like, this is where I want to go. I'm not really sure how I'm going to get there, but I'm going to start embracing this journey and seeing what resources and people I have that can help me get to there. And spoiler alert, that there is probably going to shift a little bit, but at least you're going towards that with awareness and curiosity.Lesley Logan 25:34  Oh, I love that you called out the judgment, because I think we can. It's so easy for us to like then be aware oh, here I am being my lone wolf and like, just like, continue going down the judgment zone, which is not where creativity nor confidence can live, by the way, like, judgment and gratitude can't live in the same place. Like, so yeah, it's a whole, it's a whole, those energies don't coexist very well. Okay, so can we talk a bit about confidence? Because, like, I do think, like, I find, first of all, I'm always shocked that people think that people like you or I struggle with confidence. And I think, like, it's really hilarious because, like, I just personally think that they see in us what they want for themselves. And so there's a projection that's happening, and us just doing the thing scared shitless. Like, like, it's what they think is confidence, and really it's like, well, I'm not going around with a sign on my shirt saying I'm scared shitless while I'm doing this, but also I am doing this because I know that if I do this sooner than I think I'm ready, I'm gonna get feedback, and when I get feedback, I can get better. Like, that's actually and then confidence is a byproduct, like, can we because I feel like people have a misinterpretation of what true confidence is. John Mollura 26:51  Right, right. So what confidence is, you know, the definition is a belief in yourself, a belief in your abilities. And I'm going to start this with a question. If I ask you, or most people, I'm sure your listeners are, listeners are all lovely, wonderful people, if I ask you or your listeners, like, when you make a commitment to somebody, like, do you show up to that person you've made the commitment to? Right? Like, pretty much 100% right? What if I tweak that question and said, How good are you at showing up when you've made a promise just to yourself?Lesley Logan 27:31  See, this is interesting, because this is where, like, I'm really good with myself, but I also know that, like, the time, I'm the first born, firstborn daughter, first born grandchild. There's like, the upholder in me is real. Like, if I don't have to tell anyone to do something, I'm going to do it. But that is also where perfectionism lives, so I have to be very mindful of that. Of like, am I doing it because I'm trying to be perfect, or am I doing it because I, like, I said I would do it so. But I actually know from studies that like the most people listening, they don't, they don't keep it to themselves. They keep it for everyone else but themselves.John Mollura 28:08  Right, and that and that right, there is the root, from all the research I've done that's actually the root of people's lack of confidence, is they're not showing up for themselves. Because here's what happens, is we're lying to ourselves. We say I'm going to wake up and go to the gym, or, I mean, this is the year I'm going to start eating healthier, or I'm going to floss my teeth every night. Like, pick, pick a commitment you've made to yourself. If we continually break these commitments time and time again, well, guess what? Our brain recognizes I can't trust me.Lesley Logan 28:44  Oh, there. It's, that's it. That's confidence. It's the ability to trust yourself. John Mollura 28:50  Right. Right? Right? Lesley Logan 28:53  That's so good, yes. John Mollura 28:55  Right, and people, when we're when we get into this headspace of, like, why can't I just do the thing like, why can't I start working out? Why can't I start this business? Why can't I have this critical conversation with somebody? They're like, what I don't understand, what's wrong with me? I work with them all the time that they say this and I say, what's causing it is, obviously the root is, you're not keeping promises to yourself on whatever it is, but because you keep your promise to everybody else, your brain kind of short circuits, because it's like, wait a minute, I do keep my promises. And it's like, no, you don't. So there's this like, weird dichotomy going on in your head, as they say, the only way to rectify that is just start keeping promises to yourself and start giving your brain a new set of data to work with, instead of this old set of data that that you with these promises that you've broken to yourself.Lesley Logan 29:47  Okay, yes to all that, because we get we allow our phones to get new data all the time. We allow scientists to give us new data. We allow so much grace for people to bring in new data and yet for ourselves were like, no, I'm gonna go on that old operating system, like.John Mollura 30:04  Yeah, you're like, working on a Commodore 64. Lesley Logan 30:06  Yeah, oh, yeah. Wait, so this is a funny example. So we've, we got a used car, car of my dreams. It's used, and it is amazing. It is a 2015 that has more technology than my 2020 does. And we, but we were like, Bluetooth-ing to it, which is kind of amazing for a 2015, car to have Bluetooth, right? Kind of amazing. And we're like, oh, it's skipping. I wonder how we update this thing. And it's got, you guys, it has a DVD player. Okay? Car has a DVD player. I didn't know. I was like, oh, it's got a CD player. Were people playing CDs in 2015? No, it doesn't connect to the internet, so it cannot update its system. Like, cannot. I'm gonna have to find some dude, I'm sure it exists here, who, like, can change an operating system. Well, at least that part of the car, right? I'm sure it exists where I live. But it cannot change. However, if we look at that, like, since 2015 how much has technology changed? How much have you changed? How much have you learned about yourself, and if you're still operating off the 2015 version of you, that is going to that is not going to be fun and also going to cause a lot of issues, because the whole world has updated 10 years.John Mollura 31:16  Right. Yeah. And the beautiful thing is, it might sound daunting, like, oh my gosh, I don't want to have to, like, reinvent myself. And how am I going to keep promises to myself? You know, I haven't done the thing that I said I was going to do. How am I going to even start doing it now? And I say, the beautiful thing is, about your brain is it doesn't recognize the magnitude of the promise you keep to yourself, like it doesn't recognize the difference between the promise of like, I'm going to climb Mount Everest or I'm going to floss my teeth every night. All it's doing is kicking the block saying, done, done, done, done, and then eventually you're going to hit, like, a critical mass where you're like, wait a minute. I'm just kind of doing things that I said I was going to do that's wild, because that's the beauty of taking small, consistent actions.Lesley Logan 32:08  Yeah, yeah. It's like, I love that you brought that up. We think we need, like, some sort of big goal to get going. And really, if you are not already consistently hitting things you say you were gonna do that is, like, a recipe for disaster. Like that is a self-sabotage in itself. Like it is, like, if you are, like, wanting to, like, just make sure you put another sabotage. You'll put a goal on. You'll put a habit on. Like, if you don't go the gym every day, you're like, I'm gonna go the gym five days this week. I don't even need a crystal ball to tell you that you won't. It is impossible to go from never putting your gym bag in the car, going to the gym, hitting the red lights, getting out, knowing where the equipment is, to get in a decent workout, to get the dopamine high that makes you want to go back again. Like it doesn't work. If you live in my town, every other day there's a new construction site. So you don't even get to go the same route, you know, so like, but you have to make it small so it's attainable. That's where you know that perfectionism stuff lies, because then people are like, well, if it's not, if I don't do it, if it's not all or nothing, then it's not worth doing. Like, how do you talk to yourself about doing a small thing? What did you do? John Mollura 33:19  Right. And a lot of that comes down to like that, like, you hit the nail on the head, where people are like, well, I don't have time to get in my hour long workout, so I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it tomorrow, because, you know, I strive for excellence, and I if it's not done right, it's not worth doing at all, which I say, time out. Like, what's better? 45 minutes of exercises, and maybe you don't do the squats and the overhead press for another set or zero? Like, it's perfectionism. This, this kind of all or nothing mentality, and I call these the big three, Lesley, there's perfectionism, there's procrastination, and then there's overthinking, right? Those are three big things that just derail us from doing the things that we want to do, or the things we say are so important from us. And the good news is about these three, perfectionism, procrastination and overthinking, is they all have the same root, like we don't focus on perfectionism because we really care so much about whatever it is. We don't procrastinate because we suck at time management. That's the story we tell ourselves. I'm just bad at time management.Lesley Logan 34:31  Yeah, we're not, because there's plenty of proof that you've, like, nailed some things on time, like. John Mollura 34:35  Right, right. We don't overthink because, you know, it's just so important to us that we think of every considerable contingency. The root of procrastination, perfectionism and overthinking, it's fear, and if we get a handle on fear being the root of procrastination, perfectionism and overthinking, now we can get honest with ourselves. We can start telling ourselves the truth of what am I so scared of?Lesley Logan 35:03  Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's the question of the day. John Mollura 35:08  Yeah. And it, and it goes back to when we first started here. I said I never came up with a plan, because if you don't have a plan, you can never fail, right? You never, you can never miss your target. So it's the same with procrastination or perfectionism. We find, I bet, if we're honest with ourselves, a lot of things we procrastinate the most on or get, you know, tangled up in perfectionism and overthinking are the things that are probably the closest to our heart and perfectionism, procrastination, overthinking are so convenient ways to hide because if you procrastinate for long enough, you never do the thing. And you can never fail. You try to keep making it perfect, which, spoiler alert, perfection doesn't exist, everybody. Excellence does not perfection. We never have to do the thing. And the reason why these are usually so coupled to the things that are so important to us is because one of our greatest fears as humans, I mean, like we're social creatures, right? One of our deepest fears of everybody is just the way we're wired, is to be kicked out of the tribe, the village, the clan, whatever it is. So a lot of times we resist most putting the things out that show the most of us, because we don't want people to reject us, reject what we're doing, because that taps on a very primal fear.Lesley Logan 36:37  Yes, oh, I mean, I mean, so much so, like, I remember not wanting to put out a YouTube video. My husband's like, you should be on YouTube. It's like, you know, 2014, I was like, no, no no, because people are gonna hate it, and they're gonna wonder, who they who am I to do this? There's other people who in my industry who have been teaching longer, and they should have the time. And he goes, I don't know who those people are. I don't care. You need to be on YouTube. And I remember being so scared, and I did the thing because I had to do it kicking and screaming with him, and no one actually got mad. And I was like, oh, then what am I actually afraid of? You know, like I was afraid of being kicked out of, like, the industry, like people would think that I'm some narcissist who thinks she knows everything, and really, what I do get instead, because I did it, is that people love how I show things imperfectly. I'm quite honest and candid about where I am. I'm very direct, and I'm I invite them to go there's actually, like, your body's gonna look different doing this. And so because, because I was, because I should have as me and focus on like the person viewing it, versus like me, it actually turned out to be the best thing I could ever done, because it's so much more authentic. And what I was afraid of didn't happen. In fact, I got brought into the community more, you know, like, and that's but, you know, here's the thing, it is true that whatever you want to do, you might get kicked out of your tribe. You might. There are, there are people who are assholes, and then probably, if you ask yourself, like, do I really, like, want to be in this tribe, not being my authentic self the and you know what I mean, like, I so you're gonna get a two by four to the head, is really what's gonna happen. But your tribe might come with you. You'd be surprised, like, how many people were like, Whoa, John or Lesley really did the thing. And I'm, I'm inspired by them, they actually might join in.John Mollura 38:31  Yeah, there's, there's a quote by CS Lewis that I absolutely love. You know, the dude who wrote The Chronicles of Narnia is he says friendship is born that moment that someone says, Wait a minute, you too? I thought I was the only one. Right? Lesley Logan 38:50  Well, John, I could talk to you forever about confidence and imposter syndrome. I really do love this topic. I'm so freaking glad this is what you're doing, because your journey has brought you here. And one of the reasons I wanted to have you back on the pod is, like, I think people get so hung up on like, well, I said I was going to be the photographer, so I've got to be the photographer. I made that switch. And the reality is is like, that could have just been the first next step for you. And so I really wanted people to see, like, what can happen. Look what can happen in three in three years. Like, that's kind of insane. Like, it sounds like a long time. It's not a long time. I can't believe this podcast has been this long. I feel like I just started it. So even though. John Mollura 39:36  That's really hitting you deep, isn't it? It's like the fifth time you mentioned.Lesley Logan 39:36  I know I might.John Mollura 39:36  Let's unpack that, Lesley. Lesley Logan 39:36  Well, here's what it is. The unpacking is, I actually don't think I'm getting older. I think I'm the same age I was when I moved to Vegas. Like I, actually, we moved here in June of 2020, so in two months, this will have lived here for five years. And It shocks me every day, because I feel like we just moved here. And so when things like this happen, or I meet my friend's kids I haven't seen a few years, I'm like, oh I have gotten older, and, like, not that I'm scared of getting older. That's not it at all. It's just that I actually haven't noticed that. I haven't noticed how much time has flown. And I think one, it's good to notice it, because you can celebrate all that you have done in the last three years. It's kind of epic, right? And then two, time is always going and so what are we doing with that time? You know, if you are procrastin on something, I hope that the five times I mentioned, like, how long it's been, you realize, if you were with us on episode 120 and you still haven't done the thing you wanted to do, like, this is your sign. John Mollura 40:37  Yeah, here's your two by four. Lovingly swung by Lesley and John. Lesley Logan 40:41  Yeah, yeah. I mean, like, I think that's really the unpacking. It's like, I hope that people who have have listened from that episode on have either noticed their sabotaging moments or are going, oh my goodness, it has been three years. Okay. What can I do today? You know, like, what can I do to be it till I see it today? Like, that's what I hope. Let me get this, anyways, we're gonna take a brief break and we can find out where people can find you, follow you, work with you. John Mollura 41:08  Super duper. Lesley Logan 41:10  Hi, John. Where do you hang out? Where can they take your group or your coaching or watch a keynote? Where's it all happening?John Mollura 41:18  Yeah, so they can go to johnmollura.com J-O-H-N-M-O-L-L-U-R-A dot com, and there is a fun little button there that says, schedule a free call with John. And it is truly that. It is a free call with me, because I just love to chat with people and see where they're at. It's not a sales call. It's just, I love having conversations with people about that. So johnmollura.com they can also download the free resources, the six leverage points for success that I talked about, and they can also get my Elite Level Confidence Blueprint. So there's actually two free resources there. They are under the free stuff tab, creatively titled, but yeah. Just love to connect with people. I post regularly on Instagram, little daily things there my thoughts and musings, and sometimes there's just funny stuff or bloopers. So, John Mollura on Instagram.Lesley Logan 42:09  I love it. Okay, you have given us so many things. And obviously those freebies sound like a Be It Action Item all in themselves, but what bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps can people take to be it till they see it? John Mollura 42:19  Right. So when you face these decisions, moment to moment, minute to minute, hour to hour, day to day, when you hit those decision points, you need to ask yourself, is what I'm going to do or not do going to cause me to be a hero to the future you? Is it when I meet the future you in the future, is it going to be standing there like downtrodden, tired, disappointed that we didn't go after it, or when you meet the future you, is it going to just like high five you and give you a big hug and say, thank you for honoring me, thank you for doing the thing in that moment.Lesley Logan 42:19  Oh, I love that. Oh, that's so fun. John Mollura 42:38  Yeah, super deep. Lesley Logan 42:48  That's great. I think that's such an impactful way to explore the fear, too. Yeah, guys, how will you use that tip in your life? Make sure John knows. Make sure you share it with the Be It Pod. Also share this episode with a friend. You know those friends who like keep overthinking the thing or procrastinating send it to them, they will only notice at this moment that why you're sending it to them. But like, you know, sometimes people need to hear it from someone else in a different word or just a different time, and so that's how we actually all rise up. We need to do it together. That's what makes your sandbox with your boundaries a more playful place, because everyone is understanding where that's coming from. So thank you for listening. John, thank you for being here. Fun to catch up with you. It's so good. We'll have to, we have to see each other in real life at some point. But, you guys, you know what to do. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 43:54  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. 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Executive leadership coach and former environmental lawyer Danielle Droitsch spent decades chasing titles before realizing fulfillment comes from what energizes you most—helping others reach their potential. In this episode, she and Lesley explore how identifying your superpowers can reignite passion in your current role without a career overhaul. Discover why tracking energy leads to clarity, how to “job craft” for more joy and impact, and why action—not overthinking—is the real confidence builder.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How Danielle's career pivot revealed her true superpowers.How to spot your superpowers by tracking what energizes you.Why most people mistake learned skills for natural strengths.How the 20% rule can transform job satisfaction and focus.What happens when you overuse your strengths and feel drained.Why “job crafting” lets you reshape your role without quitting your job.Episode References/Links:Time For Well-Being Website - https://www.time4wellbeing.comCareer Clarity Journey: Define Your Career Path - https://mailchi.mp/7b47af821797/3jwkmtvr4yStop Second Guessing Your Next Career Move (Free Training) - https://exclusive.time4wellbeing.comDanielle Droitsch on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielledroitschThe Big Leap by Gay Hendricks - https://a.co/d/8qEawaVBright Side Up by Amy Spencer - https://a.co/d/c5gcIbRGuest Bio:Danielle Droitsch is an executive leadership and career clarity coach with 30 years of experience in managing, directing, and leading. 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And chances are that the things that energize you are actually the things you're really good at, and that's where your actual career growth happens. So there's a correlation between things that bring you energy, so you feel more fulfilled at work, and it happens to be the places where you are that's your superpowers. Lesley Logan 0:24  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 1:07  All right, Be It babe. This is great, this interview, this episode, this whole thing has me lit up. And also, like afterwards, our guest today and I were just chatting, and I, she is just such a bright light and such as her superpower comes through this whole episode, and I can say that having talked to her before this episode, after this episode, and so we're actually talking about that. And I think it's really interesting, some of you might be like, oh, I don't have any superpowers, we talked about that too. We also talked about how you can start to find it, and how the ease of leaning into that can actually change your life, and it changed Danielle's life. So Danielle Droitsch is our guest today. She's an executive coach. She all she used to be an environmental lawyer, and so I'm just like putting that out there, because I think it's so interesting how we can so easily put ourselves in a box or in a track and think that we can't change it's too late for us. We just got to push through. No. The answer is no. There's support out there for you. There's help out there, and there's free resources for you. So here is Danielle Droitsch. Lesley Logan 2:09  All right, Be It babe. This is really fun. I recently got to meet our guest today, and I was so excited talking to her, and then Brad got involved, and we just started chatting about life. And you know, it's going to be a great guest, if like, you can be fast friends. So, Danielle Droitsch, can you tell everyone who you are and what you rock at? Danielle Droitsch 2:24  Hello. I'm so excited to chat with you today. So my name is Danielle Droitsch. I am Zooming in from Salt Lake City, Utah, but from the Washington, DC area. And I am an executive and leadership coach, and I'm all about superpowers. So I'm excited to dive in with you about that today.Lesley Logan 2:43  Oh my gosh, I love it. And like, what a big transition, like DC to Salt Lake. No offense to Salt Lake. It's so beautiful. But like lots of people to spread out, not so many people.Danielle Droitsch 2:55  It was quite it was quite a transition. I'm here to support my aging parents, but yeah, so like, parts of DC I'm happy to leave behind, and very love the outdoors here. And you know, we are part of a small enclave of progressive people that are, you know, trying to do good in the world. Lesley Logan 3:15  I love it. I love it so much. Okay, so you said you're an executive coach and you are a big fan of superpowers. Is this what you went to school for? Like, is this something we can get a degree in? How do we get here?Danielle Droitsch 3:28  No, I totally, like, it was just such a, so I'm basically trained as a lawyer. So I went and had many years of doing what I thought I should do, what success I thought looked like did what my parents thought I should do. And I mean, I still love that I did part of that journey. But what happened was, I was 25 years into my career, working at a major organization, I was a manager, and I just had a wall, and that's when I had this big transformation of, well, if this is it, if this is my career, then, hmm, I don't know. This doesn't quite feel like it. That's not what it was I had aspired to. I was really looking to feel fulfilled. And so I went on this long journey, we could talk about it, but a journey where I eventually figured out that I was not putting my superpowers to work at all, and it wasn't until I figured them out that I figured out that my pathway, that's not true for everyone, but my pathway was not to be a manager and a lawyer and all of that. It was a completely different pathway, but I never would have known it until I figured out my secret sauce.Lesley Logan 4:44  Oh my gosh. I think, like so many of us, can resonate, you know, there's a certain there's a certain group of, especially women, who are, like, definitely told, like, do all these things, check all these boxes, and then you will feel fulfilled. And then we check all the boxes, and we're like, exhausted, check. Fulfilled, what does that mean?Danielle Droitsch 5:05  What does that even mean? Exactly. It's like, it sounds like a great word, but that's the thing you could and then you spend time searching and searching and searching, and we kind of look in all the wrong places. We look on LinkedIn, like, what did that person do? What did my neighbor do? Maybe I need to travel more, maybe I need more money, maybe I need whatever, you know, and we just, we kind of keep trying all these different things on I did, I mean, I was all over the map for years, like I was like, okay, maybe I won't work on this issue. I'll work on that issue. Or maybe I should do this, you know, role at my organization. Or, you know, there were certain things I tried that really, really worked. Meditation was something I tried, and it's been in my life ever since, exercise, same. But there's other things I tried that were like, absolutely no go's. And I remember talking to you and Brad about this, but a lot of what I was trying was like, around mission, like, purpose. And I was like, oh, I should volunteer here, and I should do that. And I actually figured out that spending time on passion wasn't the answer. I'm not at all about, let's not do passionate things. But it, you know, fast forward, it took me, like, three years to figure it out. I felt like, oh my God, like, how many, how much time is this gonna take? And I finally figured out that the answer was had to do with what I was naturally good at. And that's what I mean when I say superpower.Lesley Logan 6:30  Okay, thank you for defining that. Because I actually think that, like, think we even talked about this, but like, I sometimes think that, like, figuring out your purpose or your passion is like, such a heavy lift. It's like, because it kind of feels like there's no going back, like, once I figured this out, that's it, you know, and then you're like, but I haven't even tried trampoline yet. I don't know. It almost, I think some people have a hard time because it could feel limiting, like, once you figured out, also, there's so much pressure, and then, and then what? And then it has to make me money, which I disagree with. I don't think it really does, but I really I want to just go back to like, what you're naturally good at. This, this is something that I think is really hard for people to recognize, because we think it comes so easy to us. So why would it even be worthy? Why would it even be worthwhile? Why would it be valuable?Danielle Droitsch 7:19  Yes, oh my gosh, you just sort of nailed it. And this is, this is when I work with my clients. It's like the, one of the first things I work with my clients on, regardless of what problem or issue or challenge they have, is we start with, where are your superpowers? And that's because they don't know.Lesley Logan 7:40  Yes (inaudible) I already have 10 listeners going, I don't have any superpowers. I was gifted. None of those. My sister has them all.Danielle Droitsch 7:50  My sister would say that she would be like, I have no superpowers. And I've been spent I've spent all these years saying, yes, you do, but it is so natural. They are so natural, they're so innate, they are hidden to you. So if there's one thing that people are listening to right now, I can promise you that you actually unless you've gone through the exercise of actually figuring out your superpowers, you do not likely know them. And I'm telling this to the people who are like, oh, I know my strengths, and they'll say things like, I'm strategic (inaudible) and I'm a great communicator, and I'm like, that's, I mean, that's, that's like a that's like a tiny, tiny, tiny, little bit of a strength. It's really about your innate ability to create impact, and it doesn't have to do with a skill that's different. A skill is learned, like trampoline. You know, you can learn, you can learn word processing, and you can learn, you know, how to put out a podcast, and you can learn lots of like project management. I'm sure people on this call could say, oh, yeah, I can do all those things. That's not your secret sauce. Your secret sauce is in how you create impact in the world, and I didn't know it, and it was only in my 40s that I was actually able to figure out, oh my gosh, like I have been all wrong. I've been focused all this time on my skills and my knowledge, and thought that's how we're success, not saying you don't need skills and knowledge. I mean, for sure, but my fulfillment, my growth, my career directory, my clarity about who I am as a person, everything kind of comes back to that, and it takes a little bit of work, but you can figure it out. And I promise you, that's where you start to feel the energy that helps you feel aligned.Lesley Logan 9:37  Okay, I'm really in because, like so at this household, we're big fans of like string finders. We make all of our anybody we're gonna hire, we want to know what they're like, naturally inclined to do because I'm not going to put someone who is not detail oriented on on my on my assistant team. I am not detail oriented. Everyone who works with me needs to figure it out. But I also agree that, like some of those things that were strong at work are not necessarily things that we were innately born with. We kind of, like, learned them, skilled them over time, and, like, kind of really lean into those things. I also think that a lot of people busy themselves with all the things they're not good at, so they get the feedback at work that they're not a great communicator, and they take all these communicating classes, and they're like, working on these week that that's gonna make you feel so far away from your superpower. Because, like, at least, at least going into the strength skills you have, at least can feel good, at least feel accomplished, but maybe not fulfilled. So I guess, can we talk about, like, how we figure it out? I mean, obviously we need you, but like, can we talk about, like, a little bit of, like, what are some signs we have a superpower, or that we're working with it, or working what do we got?Danielle Droitsch 10:49  Yeah, it is, I mean, and, you know, I definitely encourage taking things like strengths assessments, because they'll just give you some bread crumbs. It doesn't say how you specifically are good, because these assessments can only take it so far, but it gives you some indications. And I did want to, like, quickly jump on this whole idea of weaknesses, because we are trained from like, itty bitty to focus on our weaknesses. Like the minute you come home with a C or even a D on your report card. Your parents are like, on you, they're like, you gotta move it up. You gotta move it up. And we're even doing that to our own kids. Like, now, I've kind of been reprogrammed for my own kid. It's, it's fine. We all when you're learning in school, it's good to build that basic skills. But when you're getting to, you know, your career, and especially in your middle or later in your career, you kind of have already have a lot of skills and knowledge. And so we have a lot of people who are like, oh, I got to figure this out and taking courses. And, you know, I don't, I don't disparage that. I'm all the time like, sure, constantly grow, but your actual growth edge, in terms of your full potential, whether you're thinking personally or you're thinking professionally, is not found in fixing weaknesses, period. We know this from the research. So what we want to do is we want to lean into a strength, and so the strength is not a skill. So I'll use myself as an example. I had a lot of skills in the legal space, in the policy space, and I would try to learn and take some continuing education. And I prided myself on, oh, I knew the latest and whatever is going on the law, and people would give me some feedback on that. So I think, oh, that's what I needed to do. But what was I doing around the office. I had a team. I would meet with them, I would learn about their lives. I cared about their growth. I spent time thinking, okay, how can we make this person better at what they do? And I never gave credence to that part of my role. I was just so focused on more knowledge and more information, and really all around me, I had been the person who actually is really good at helping another person in my office and eventually in my coaching business, help them actually really cultivate their own potential, and that's through conversation and through encouragement and through a whole bunch of like stuff that I would have ever given any sort of like value to I was like, doesn't everybody do that? No, not everybody (inaudible).Lesley Logan 13:30  Doesn't everybody get to know people? Doesn't ever, no, people don't, actually. You're right, I know, but to the point it's something so natural to you. Of course, I want to get to know this person. Of course, I want to hear what their goals are. Of course, wouldn't that be the thing a team leader does is, like, figure out how to help them out. Oh, this is so cool, this is so great.Danielle Droitsch 13:41  Yeah, so you don't so I didn't know that. I was like, literally, I mean, I was always helping my friends out, helping my family out, helping my colleagues out, and I was obsessed with becoming a better, whatever knowledge person in the legal space. And I wasn't really growing in that space. I was okay, but I wasn't extraordinary. And I remember there was a there was a time later in my early my coaching career, where somebody came to me and they after a coaching session, and they were like, you're amazing. You're so good at what you do. I had never heard that kind of feedback when I was in my profession. Never. No one ever came to me at work and said, You are the most amazing lawyer. I was like, you know, got some good reviews, but like, my when I noticed that actually I was I had leaned in to this part of me that I had kind of treated as not very valuable. I was like, Oh, you're just miss relationship person. Well, guess what? That's it. It's relationships, it's cultivation, it's all of that stuff. And so then suddenly I get the feedback that's where your superpower is. So it does take a little bit of time to figure out it's a great practice. And the key way to know your strengths is when you feel energy, you need to follow the energy. Anytime I ever, you know, connected with someone and sort of help them out. I was getting energy from that when I was trying to figure out a legal issue, I wasn't it wasn't even draining me. It was just bah, that's it. So you that's the place where you need to go. Is the energy that is a clue to your superpowers. And it's not just relationship strengths. There's all these different kind of strengths, but at the end of the day, it's when you feel energy and when you notice that you lose time. Lesley Logan 15:31  Yeah, I agree with that. In Gay Hendricks' book, there's a chapter on the big leap. And I remember reading the book going this chapter makes no sense. Why is this chapter in this book. Like, why is there a whole chapter on Einstein Time and Newtonian time? Like, why is this here? And it took me, like, the fifth read. I was like, going through it, and I was like, oh, my god, this is what the book's all about. And the idea is, like, when we are really in the thing that we are meant to do that, like, we're just, it's just innately part of us. You can bend time. Time can expand. You can get so much out of it. You you can get lost in time. Time flies by. It's not like, my god, it's been seven minutes, okay, we're still here, you know, like, it's this whole it's kind of amazing. And so I think that's what a great sign everyone can take away is just to start tracking, like, what part of my day do I feel more energized, or the time flew by? Like, what was I doing? Just, just being an observer in your life. You don't even have to, like, do more than that, I would assume right now. Danielle Droitsch 16:30  Yes, that's it. You just, you just nailed one of the first exercises that I do with my clients is journal, if you can, for like, a week, even better, longer, but just write down and what people, when my clients come back to me and say, I did this, there's usually, and I'm there, there's usually a, you know? Oh, I thought I hated all meetings, which many of us do, like we're just meeting down, right? We're just so tired (inaudible).Lesley Logan 16:56  I work from home, and somehow I'm in meetings all day. Danielle Droitsch 16:58  So it's like I know that some of your listeners are like, yes, this is my debate in my existence. Like, I'm just sitting on meetings. But not all meetings are created equal, right? So what we want to do is sort of like, which makes sometimes you're in a meeting, you're having a strategic conversation with someone, and you're kind of really, you know, getting your brain active. You're thinking problem solving, and that conversation was pretty cool. And you're like, ooh, that goes into we call the lifts and the drains. You have a lift another call. You're like, going through a to do list, figuring out project management. Maybe that's a drain. You're like, I am so tired of going through the project management plan. And then there's other activities, which might be neutral, it's fine like it doesn't. But what we want, and this is the key thing, is the researchers who have kind of studied all of this stuff around fulfillment and engagement at work, if you can get to at least 20% of your day to be in that sort of energy zone, then you're what you're actually able to move the needle considerably on fulfillment. So you don't need for every single hour of your day. Lesley Logan 18:11  Okay, well, that's mind-blowing, because I think that's the other thing, is that we think that, like, the whole day should be in fulfillment. I should just be in my strengths the whole day. I don't, you know like, and the truth is, is that I've even like thought, like, am I, am I, I like, created this whole thing that I love so much. And again, I'm in these meetings, like, did I create a disaster that I have to live in? But actually, like, if 20% if you're, if I spend 20% of my day in my superpower. Then even if the other 80% is not in, I'm still moving the needle forward towards towards fulfillment. I love that. That is so great.Danielle Droitsch 18:48  Yes, it is. And this is what you do. You start with just noticing. A lot of us don't notice. I mean, we're just kind of barreling through a life. And a lot of what I know you talk about Lesley all the time is just waking up to your life. You just got to wake up. You got to just start noticing. And that's kind of key to this whole exercise that I am talking about here, is you cannot just wake up and do your to do list and go through your meetings and then hope and pray that maybe things start to get more fulfilling. You have to start to notice, like, okay, that was draining. That was you don't have to, like, be judgy about it. You don't have to be like, Oh my gosh, I hate my job. You don't have to be like that. You can be like, okay, I'm going to take some time objectively and look, because sometimes people come to me, they're like, I hate my job. And then they realize there's one part of their job that they hate and there's another part of their job they actually really enjoy. They're just not paying a whole lot of attention to it. And they could magnify the part of the job they love, they may not be able to get rid of the part of the job they hate. Let's all be honest, like there's parts that we I don't love. I don't love administration of my business, you know, calendaring, it just drives me crazy, right? So we just have to kind of look for those things that we're able to magnify, that the things that bring us energy, and that is usually the first step to the creating, the creation of more fulfilling work. And what I mean by magnifying is more time, maybe, or just more attention in that space. And what start people have noticed, you know, getting back to the research, is that their actual levels of fulfillment, engagement go up in their jobs. And it doesn't matter what kind of job it can be the most restrictive job out there, and it still creates more energy, if you focus on the 20%. Lesley Logan 20:37  Okay, this is, I do think this is great, because I think it's so easy for us to go, oh my gosh, I'm going to work and I'm stressed out. So work stresses me out. So we just have to, like, create a reason. And really what we're not exploring is like, actually, where my I face a wall at work, and actually, when I have this, when I'm in these meetings, I actually light up because, oh, I'm facing a window. So maybe I just need to change, ask for a change and view of my desk, or maybe I work in that meeting room as much as I possibly can, you know, like different things like that, because sometimes we're just it's all or nothing. It's an all or nothing mentality that so many of us are raised to have. If it's not perfect, it's not good, if everything isn't rosy and unicorns, then it's the wrong path. Like, if you have one door closed, then you're on the wrong path. Like, but I, Danielle, you're giving us so much permission, because first, we're just observing, and I think that's really hard for the perfectionist and overachievers listening, but my dears, like in just observation mode of how your day is going and where your energy is ebbing and flowing, and then it's trying to magnify where the energy flow happened, and then seeing what's going on, because maybe we don't have to quit the job. You know, like, I read this one book a long time ago. Think it was called, like, [Bright] Side Up or something like that. I remember the author's name, name is Amy Spencer, and there's a whole chapter on, like, parking the car or draw like, or driving away, right? But not idling. And sometimes we, like, have, like, think we have to, just like, get rid of the whole job, but, oh, it actually pays all these things I want, so I'll just kind of deal with it when what you're saying is like, well, what if we can magnify that? And that magnification might actually lead to another role, or it might lead to a whole other career. You might actually end up like you did, switching because you leaned in so much. But you don't have to know right away.Danielle Droitsch 22:19  No, and in fact, I would say a lot of people, we all fall into this trap, too, everyone. We all fall into it. But the trap is I will finally be happy when, dot, dot, dot.Lesley Logan 22:32  That's why this podcast exists, for that win. Stop doing the I will finally be happy when.Danielle Droitsch 22:37  Yeah, it's like we've got, and this happens with jobs all the time. I mean, people have most I mean most of the American workforce, 70% of the global workforce, are not happy in their roles. That's incredible. It is a staggering and very unsatisfying statistic. And that's not just pandemic. That is we have a workplace that is so different than our, whateve,r grandfather's or our parents from the 50s, 60s and 70s. So we're, you know, things are broken. I'm, I'll be the first one to say we don't have a great workplace for our people. But the thing I will say right after that is, you have the power, you have the flexibility to actually empower yourself to make that career actually work for you, and the way you do that is first by noticing what energizes you. And it could be something as simple as where you sit. It could be, I really like that person at work, and I'm going to spend more time with them. It could be, I really like this project and I'm gonna spend more time on it. There's a lot of different ways that you can do that, but that is called job crafting. That's the official term. And then you can, you know, whatever you can do to minimize the stuff that's draining you, but you're basically paying attention to what energizes you, and chances are that the things that energize you are actually the things you're really good at, and that's where your actual career growth happens. So there's a correlation between things that bring you energy, so you feel more fulfilled at work, and it happens to be the places where you are that's your superpowers. And then what happens is your job crafting, and you're not maybe you would need to change your job at some point. But you're not waiting. You're not waiting for some big change to happen, because, frankly, you're gonna find drains, lifts and drains in every job. It doesn't matter.Lesley Logan 24:32  Yeah, oh yeah, guys, no. I mean, even I have so many people who are like, I just want to work for myself. And I'm like, working for yourself. Is it is not like, like, I have a girlfriend who's like, hey, you want to do a pool day, and I'm like, oh, no, I'm working today. Like, I would love to do a pool day, but like, I also have a job that I have to do with a schedule, you know, so, like, I absolutely am unemployable. It's clear I've been asked to quit, but people like me, and they're like, we don't want to fire you, but you're not actually doing the job we want. I'm like, no, you're correct. I job-crafted myself out of a job, is what I did. But I think, like, it's, you know, we like to think the grass is greener, and it's just, it's not. But the people I've seen who who work at other places, who are have have really created a life that they're fulfilled, or like that just seems to be enjoyable and have a level of happiness. They are the ones leaning into their superpowers. I have, one of my best friends. You know, she'd been frustrated in her job for a long time, and she said, I just told my team, I'm no longer doing these things for you. You are capable of doing these things. Here's where I come in for your job. And she basically changed what her job is even though, because she couldn't change her job, like, she's like, I really can't go anywhere else, and I really can't change these things. I'm gonna do these things here. And she's having a really great time. Is it perfect? No, still have the same job, yes, but she's doing the things that she's like, I'm really, I'm really good at these things. You can't take these things away from me. Like, this is what I'm the strongest at, and I what I love, what you're saying is we're not waiting. You are more control of how fulfilled you can be than you think, and jobs are going to suck in a lot of places. But if you are aware of how you are in your superpower, you can really create your own path. Danielle Droitsch 26:15  Yes, and I mean, we have, if you are a so called white collar worker, your ability to craft your job, as in, make shifts and changes to how you deploy your work. It doesn't mean you're you're saying I'm not going to do my basic job responsibilities, but there's just tremendous flexibility in how we conduct ourselves. So what your friend did was exactly right. There are, there are things I'm not going to do anymore. I'm not going to do that. You can do that. We're going to get it done, but it's not going to be necessarily on my plate. The kinds of things people are doing are they start to change the number of meetings or the nature of the meetings that they're having. If you're a one to one person, more one to one and less group, if you don't have enough time on your calendar to strategize you really enjoy, sort of getting into the data, then you need to like craft time around having that space and time, because you're going to actually bring a better strategic mind, because you're not sitting in meetings all day. There's lots of different ways you can job craft, but it starts with you. It starts with you knowing where am I energized? What do I enjoy? Where am I drained? What's neutral? And then you just move the needle. And you might be at you might say, Hey, I think I'm at 20% already, which is great, if you are. I want to be 30%. I want 30% of my week to be in that strengths or energy zone. And here's what I'm going to do, to do it. And I promise you, at 10% it might seem like a little number, it's like, oh, just 30% Guess what? You will notice it. You will notice it. You will start to be more fulfilled. You're going to be more engaged in the job. People are going to notice your energy. And then you're going to actually start to sort of deal with that career growth that a lot of people are seeking. They want to, they want to, like, when you said perfectionist, like, a lot of people, want to deliver high performing work. They're, they're, they're trying to bring their best to work. The problem is, is that they're bringing their best selves to work, in terms of, like, quality of work, but they're actually kind of, like, not really deeply engaged. We need to see your superpowers come out, and that's where the 20 to 30% becomes a complete sea change.Lesley Logan 28:25  Yeah, so. And also, like, I recently interviewed someone who is, like, helping people, like, prevent, you know, like, it's like, layoff proof or something like that. Like, if you get laid off, your life is gonna be okay. Because she had said, and I didn't, I did not double check this quote, but I it feels right. She said it by 2032 work will be different than we think, because of AI, right? And I like, I'm not someone who's like, AI is going to like be everything, because I really don't, really don't think so. I think there's a lot that they have to learn. They haven't even figured how to monetize it. I but I also think that, like, it's already here, like apps and tools like that already use it. We've been using a project management tool that basically has AI built into it with these different things. So I do think work is going to change, and where I keep coming back to something that I remember, I think, with Seth Godin, who said it, god, 20 years ago, I heard this. He's like, you know, you cannot like they even though AI is creating stuff, they're creating stuff off things that are existing you, if you are a creative person, if you like the if you are in your superpower, that is not something a robot can take away. Like that is not something AI can take away. And I think like now more than ever, the more we all figure out what our superpower is, the more layoff proof we really are. And because someone's gonna need to run the AI.Danielle Droitsch 29:39  Somebody has to run the AI. But I had a client just a few, few days ago. She was, been in fear of a layoff. And, I mean, it was a real, real fear. I mean, she was given time, like we have this much time. And then she came back to me proudly and said, I just made myself indispensable. So she figured out a way to bring her superpowers forward, so that she had to be the person on the team to help with something. And she's got all these superpowers, and she figured it out. So part of like, what we're talking about here is this idea of career growth, this idea of like, not being stagnant. I come at it from a perspective of, nobody wants to go to a job and hate it like we want to love our jobs. We do not want to go to work and just be like zombies. Do we? For most people, I'll bet most of your listeners, if not all of them, it is not just about a paycheck. And so we really, really want to have, I mean, ideally, love our work, and that's where I come from. But if you're also thinking, I want to love my work and I want to grow. I want to think about where my career is going. Then, yeah, by all means, figure out your superpowers and very quickly, because it is not about skills and strengths. When you're mid to senior in your career, everybody else has those skills and strengths too. And of course, AI is coming to pick them up. It's going to be found in this secret way, this unusual way, for you to manage people, to be a strategic thinker, to influence others. I mean, these are all what strengths are. They're soft, but they're crucial, and you probably don't even know you're doing them, which is why you have to figure them out. Lesley Logan 31:19  Can you tell me, like, what are just like, like, what are some superpowers you've seen in clients? Like, just because, like, name them off, because I think some people are like, thinking of superpower has to be like, I can see, like, I only know that people can, like, articulate what they think a superpower is (inaudible). Danielle Droitsch 31:34  It's a bit of a process. So I'll just pull out some of my big favorites. And these are ones I see in my regular clients, achievers. So achievers are people who they're basically laser focused on getting projects done. It is not just about the project. It's that they are tireless workers to reach a result and that, and they might have examples of that, like degrees they might have achieved or projects. But the achievers are the ones who are the ones who actually get the job done. And then you have the examples of that. Another example would be in the influencing category. We have a whole set of influencing. It's people who are great at activating new project, mobilizing resources, and mobilizing people to actually ramp something new up. Another example would be the developer, which is basically someone who is great at helping someone else reach their full potential. These are the managers. These are the leaders who are great at cultivating teams. Another example. Lesley Logan 32:34  These are the managers. We hope that every manager has a developing.Danielle Droitsch 32:38  So many terrible managers out there, it's unbelievable, anyway. And so, yeah, if you're a great manager, my goodness, you are marketable. Like, that's a transferable skill, because we don't have enough great managers or the ability to bring a team together around a common goal. Yeah, it's great to be able to project manage, but it's the person who's really able to sort of bring a team together and say, we are all rowing the same way. And that's a lot of lot of special little powers you bring to get everybody, usually it's a disparate and very diverse group of people to say together we're doing. And then a final example, and there's, in my world, if there's 34 of them, so I'm not going to, you know, go through all of them, but the final couple would be one is the person in the room who's the strategic thinker who's really able to figure out that pathway. They're thinking, hey, you know what? We have this challenge or this problem, they're the one who just incisively, can cut through all the noise and figure out what the pathway is, and they might be getting there first before everyone else, and they don't understand why no one else figures it out. And then the final one I'll share is the person who is the ideator, the person in the room who is just great at generating ideas, cultivating new things, innovation. Sometimes that's the ad people and the sales people, but sometimes that's just, you know, it's, you're just a person in the room saying, I have an idea. Those are just at a smattering, and there was no skills or strengths. I mean, no skills or knowledge, and anything I just shared with you.Lesley Logan 34:05  I agree. I I'm the ideator around here, and the and Brad walks around going, no, that, we'll take we'll take this idea and that idea, we can do it. It's just, it's gonna cost us a lot of money. And, and I'm like, oh, like, I didn't want to spend that much money on that idea. Like, I just thought it'd be, like, this easy thing to do, okay, but, like, it's quite fun. And I had no idea, because I was someone like, why can't I finish anything? You know? Why do I have all these my head is full of ideas, and I just feel like I can't finish anything. And actually, it's because that's not my strength. It's not my superpower, to finish anything.Danielle Droitsch 34:38  Yeah, you're like, you're the person in the room who generates and I'm sure that in your life and your business, you could point to specific things you're doing that were generated by you, the thing, and this is a little bit of advanced thinking in the in the strength zone, but you may feel like you're weak at something, but actually, it's actually a superpower that's being overextended. So for my ideators, I'll say, they'll they'll come to me and say, I'm so weak at this, this mess. And what it is is that if you're ideating and you have a lot of ideas and you're just constantly throwing them out, the over extension or overuse of a strength is just to know that only a couple of your ideas are going to move forward, and that's it. So sometimes people come to me and they're like, oh, I'm so weak at this. And then we'll look at their strengths and talk, and I'm like, you know what? I don't think it's a weakness. I think it's just that you are trying to exercise a strength a little bit more. And what we want to do is we want to put the strength superpower in the strength zone. Sometimes we may be overextending something. So don't think you're weak just because, you know, I just see it too often, especially with my women clients, like they come in, they're like, I'm so bad. Like, I'll use myself as an example. That I used to think as my relationship strengths, as my weakness, that I was too soft, too emotional. And in fact, what it was was that I didn't have any space or time in my workplace, which is very, you know, kind of masculine and, you know, very corporate, that there was no space for me to be cultivating my emotional intelligence in there. It was just get things done. But in a coaching space, all of my emotional intelligence was really welcome. So you just want to be really aware that it may not be a weakness, it may be a strength. It's just you have to figure out the right place for it. Lesley Logan 36:24  That makes so much sense, Danielle, because, like, it's the same as me telling people, like, well, you're not really supposed to overwork out, like you might actually be working out too much, and that's why you have aches, pains, injuries, high cortisol levels, terrible sleep. Like there is a balance. So that, to me, makes so much sense. This is really refreshing and quite cool and also approachable. And I just want to like highlight, like it really is a be it till you see it, because you get to start an observation mode, and then you get to play in a low percentage you guys have, and that's so, so great for the perfectionist who are practicing recovery to be like, just like, what's this percentage? And how can I dial it up a little bit more and a little bit more at a time until, oh my gosh, you are totally loving what your your day is like. And we I just, thank you, Danielle, for just highlighting all of this for us. We're gonna take a brief break and we're gonna find out where people can find you, follow you and find out their superpowers with you. Lesley Logan 37:02  All right, Danielle, where do you hang out? Where can they learn their superpower? What do you have for us?Danielle Droitsch 37:28  I you find me on LinkedIn, connect with me. Please reach out. Connect with me on LinkedIn, I have a gazillion resources there on everything from leadership to confidence to superpowers. That's the best place to find me. Where I hang out. I also am on a couple of other places, and you can find me on my website at time4wellbeing, the number four, time4wellbeing.com.Lesley Logan 37:48  Perfect, wonderful. You all, go check her out on LinkedIn, and then go check her website for those free resources. We love that. You have given us some great stuff already, but bold, executable, intrinsic, targeted steps people can take to be it till they see it. What do you have for us? Danielle Droitsch 38:02  Yeah, so just follow your energy. That's where your superpowers live. The clarity doesn't come from thinking harder harder. Confidence doesn't come from faking it. I know you. This is something you've said a lot. They come from activating what's true about you.Lesley Logan 38:02  That's beautiful. I couldn't agree more. I really, it's really someone at the end of another podcast, go, you're so confident. And I'm like, and like, how did you get to be so confident? I'm like, I think I just just keep trying to do what I said I was going to do each and every day it doesn't come, you don't you don't get deemed it, y'all.Danielle Droitsch 38:43  No, no. And I mean, honestly, I have led many people to this confidence journey, and we are waiting for this mindset to ship to show up. And we know, again, I'm a research-based gal. Confidence is not built through the mindset. It is built through action and failure and success and getting right back up. And I would say, I've been gone through that gamut, like many of your listeners have. It sounds like you have, too, but it's not through waiting for it. It is really about action.Lesley Logan 39:18  Yes, yes, yes, yes, all things, yes, Danielle, we are so grateful to have you like you just have been so wonderful. And I'm so excited that you figured out what your superpower is so you could be doing this with other people like, thank goodness. I mean, I'm sure you were a great environmental law lawyer, and the environment needed you. But I think all of us, ladies here, and the few good men who listen, need you too. So thank you all. You guys, how are you going to use these tips in your life? Make sure you tell Danielle on LinkedIn. You tag the beitpod, share this with a friend who needs to hear it. Maybe you got a friend who's just not really sure what their superpower is and until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 39:51  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 40:33  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 40:38  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 40:43  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 40:49  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 40:53  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. 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Ever feel like you're great at your job…but not alive doing it? Andrew Hasty dives into what it really means to operate in your zone of genius: that magical space where time flies, energy flows, and work actually feels fun. He unpacks the four zones from Gay Hendricks' "The Big Leap" (Incompetence, Competence, Excellence, and Genius) and reveals why so many leaders get stuck in the "good but not great" zone of excellence.

Moving abroad won't magically change who you are — you bring you with you.In this episode, I share what I've learned since moving to Spain: how living in a walkable, sunny place has changed some habits (like walking more and spending time outside), but how others — like overworking — still follow me wherever I go.I share:The myth that moving abroad automatically creates a “slower life”How environment can support change, but not cause itWhy intentionality matters more than locationSetting work-life boundaries as an entrepreneurBuilding routines that match the life you actually wantIf you want your life to change, you have to create that change — no matter where you live.Subscribe and ReviewIf you loved this episode, please take a moment to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts! Your support helps us reach more visionaries who need these insights.

Who better to learn about the power of mindset than an incredible bikini bodybuilder? Today I'm sitting down with Morgan Eldrett, an IFBB Bikini Pro, fitness coach and host of Mindset Lounge Podcast. Beyond bodybuilding, Morgan is passionate about mindset and personal growth which is exactly why I wanted to get her on the show - to talk about what it takes mentally and physically to become a pro athlete, how we can adopt her mindset into our own lives and why mindset is everything. You'll learn: 0:00 - Why Morgan got started in bikini bodybuilding 2:05 - Behind the scenes look into what prep actually looks like for a bodybuilding athlete 4:11 - The most important part of getting in shape (it's not what you expect) 6:27 - Key takeaways for anyone who wants to get stronger and healthier 8:29 - Morgan reveals the most important food group for building muscle 10:20 - Hacks to get more protein naturally into your meals 12:04 - The biggest differences between prep for bodybuilding competitions 10 years ago versus today 15:02 - Morgan's favourite meals when she's getting ready for a competition (her answer will surprise you) 19:11 - The most shocking part of prep that nobody knows 21:03 - Morgan's secret to sticking her goals and not allowing her cravings to ruin her progress 23:38 - The habits bodybuilders shouldn't carry over into their everyday lives 25:17 - The truth about what happens to bodybuilders once a competition is over 31:08 - A glimpse into Morgan's everyday routine 34:25 - How to adopt the mindset and will power of a professional bodybuilder 40:19 - Why Morgan swears by visualisation techniques to help achieve her goals (and it worked!) 46:44 - Where to find and work with Morgan … and SO much more. Watch the YouTube Version of the Podcast here. Want more of Morgan? Follow her on IG @morganeldrett or listen to her own podcast Mindset Lounge on Spotify or Apple.  Find out more about The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks here. If you have any burning questions and want me to answer them, join us on our Facebook page - SynxBody Squad! We do everything from Weekly Q&As, health, wellness and fitness tips as well as exclusive first looks at our new products (with the opportunity to test and review!) Click here to join. Ready to take a step in the right direction and look after future you? Check out the products that will keep your body in Synx here - www.synxbody.com And if you want to see more of the behind the scenes OR you loved the episode let us know over on instagram at @synxbody and @rachael.ferguson  or on TikTok here @synxbody 

Most firm owners try to “fix the business” without ever fixing the real ceiling that's holding them back. The result? Burnout, endless busyness, and a business that feels more like a cage than freedom.In this episode of The Wize Way Podcast, Gay Hendricks, best-selling author of The Big Leap, shares powerful insights on:✅ The Upper Limit Problem that keeps even successful people stuck✅ How stored emotions and limiting beliefs sabotage growth✅ What life looks like inside your Genius Zone (and why most never get there)✅ The simple daily commitment that can unlock extraordinary resultsIf you're ready to stop hitting invisible ceilings and start operating in your zone of genius, this conversation is a must-listen.________________ PS: Whenever you're ready… here are the fastest 4 ways we can help you fix and grow your accounting firm: 1. Download our famous Wize Freedom Strategy Map for FREE - Find out the 96 projects every firm owner must implement to build a $5M+ firm that can run without them - Download here 2. Need to Hire right now? Book a 1:1 FREE discovery call with our WizeTalent hiring coaches to help find your next team member the Wize Way – Click Here 3. Book a 1:1 Wize Discovery Session – Spend 30mins with our Wize CEO, Jamie Johns, a $7M firm owner who is ready to give you his entire business plan to build a firm that can run without you – Find out more here 4. Work with Jamie and our mentors for 8 weeks - Build a custom business plan for your firm - Apply here

On today's episode of The CLS Experience we have a very exclusive treat. Get ready for a transformative journey with the legendary Gay Hendricks, a pioneer in relationship transformation and Body Mind Therapies. With over 30 years of expertise, Gay shares his secrets on nurturing profound relationships, the concept of the 'upper limit' problem, and harnessing your genius zone for ultimate fulfillment. Tune in to discover practical tips on maintaining a healthy lifestyle, the incredible power of supportive partnerships, and how creating space for your creativity can change your life. Let's dive in.3:48 The Power of Relationships11:49 Understanding the Upper Limit Problem20:59 Living in Your Genius Zone28:35 Creating the Hendricks Institute31:13 Impact of Media Exposure35:19 The Power of Honest CommunicationCheck out Gay on Instagram HERE:Check out Gay's website HERE:Check out Gay's Book's HERE:Check out our brand new RISE Framework to unlock your purpose HERE.Check out our partner Belay using our custom link HERE to find the best help available to grow your business!To join our community click here.➤ To connect with Craig Siegel follow Craig on Instagram➤ Order a copy of my new book The Reinvention Formula today! ➤ Join our CLS texting community for free daily inspiration and business strategies to elevate your day, text (917) 634-3796➤ INSTAGRAM➤ FACEBOOK➤ TIKTOK➤ YOUTUBE➤ WEBSITE➤ LINKEDIN➤ X

Send us a textWhat if your greatest contribution to the world lies in the space where joy meets mastery?In this transformative episode of HypeWomen, Sarona Wolter sits down with legendary psychologist, author, and coach Gay Hendricks—whose work has shaped the lives of CEOs like Michael Dell and earned him a seat on Oprah's stage. With over 60 books to his name, including the groundbreaking The Big Leap and The Genius Zone, Gay shares how to break free from self-imposed limits and step into the zone where your deepest purpose lives.

En este episodio exploramos la zona de genialidad, ese lugar donde tu talento natural, tu disfrute y tu aporte al mundo se encuentran. Veremos cómo descubrirla y vivir en ella. Me apoyo en las ideas de “Tu Gran Salto” de Gay Hendricks, en mi experiencia y en la de mis clientes para aterrizarlo con ejemplos y preguntas prácticas. . Link al Club de Krezcamos: https://krezcamos.systeme.io/elclub-sergio . Mi nombre es Sergio del Prado y soy experto en desarrollo personal y profesional. Ayudo a profesionales a vivir BIEN de su emprendimiento y a que aprendan a disfrutar de sus proyectos y de sus vidas. Si quieres saber más de mí y cómo puedo ayudarte, visita https://beacons.ai/sdelprado También puedes seguirme en mi Instagram @sdelprado https://www.instagram.com/sdelprado/

Lesley and Brad reflect on their conversation with author and podcast host Wendy Valentine, whose story of rebuilding after divorce and debt inspires bold self-discovery. In this recap, they unpack her perspective on authenticity, why growth requires discomfort, and how carving away what isn't you can reveal your true self. Plus, they connect Wendy's wisdom to practical ways you can face fear and step into the life you really want.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! 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It just doesn't happen in the way. If it was going to happen in the life you're having now, you'd have it already. Lesley Logan 0:13  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:55  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap.Brad Crowell 1:02  I feel caught any of the shit talking that happened before we started. No, you don't even know. You don't even know. Take it away. Lesley Logan 1:12  Brad am I just gonna keep going. I'll just keep going. Brad and I are going to dig into the refreshingly genuine convo I had with Wendy Valentine in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause this now and go back and listen to that one, then come back and join us. You can listen to it twice if you're like Brad, maybe remember, just saying, love you so much. Lesley Logan 1:35  So today is September 25th 2025 and it is One-Hit Wonder Day. One-Hit Wonder Day takes place every year on September 25th.Brad Crowell 1:48  Yeah, I put that stuff in there just so that you have to repeat literally the same.Lesley Logan 1:52  Well, sometimes it's every third Thursday, so it's not exactly the same but, but the day is the perfect excuse to listen to songs that have been in your head since they first aired. So that doesn't make sense. If it's a one-hit wonder, it should just be the day to be honoring other one-hit wonder they flubbed it anyways. I think you should go listen to only one-hit wonders, and I have some good ones for you. So buckle up and get ready to remember all the artists whose names have have been lost to time, but whose works have stayed behind in our minds and hearts. Here's everything you need to know about one-hit wonders and the people who made them. Brad has a list.Brad Crowell 2:26  Well, I don't have a list of everything you need to know about them, but I do have a list of one-hit wonders. So (inaudible) I'm just gonna pick one from each decade. Lesley Logan 2:35  Okay, that's fine. But then can I share my favorite one-hit wonder of the 90s?Brad Crowell 2:38  Okay, when we get to the 90s. All right, so the 1970s, My Sharona. Lesley Logan 2:46  That was a one hit wonder? Brad Crowell 2:47  By The Knack. Yeah, ever heard of The Knack? Lesley Logan 2:50  No, but I heard My Sharona.Brad Crowell 2:55  Okay, from the 80s, all right, we've got, let's see, this is one of my favorite songs of all times, all time, the times, Take On Me by A-ha. Lesley Logan 3:12  A-ha. Take On Me.Brad Crowell 3:14  Take on me.Lesley Logan 3:15  You don't love that because it's you can't actually, that is hurting people's ears, (inaudible) but that's a hard song to sing. It's kind of like Africa. You can't like you like, A-ha, because it's like, Toto like, it's really hard to sing. Take like, like, he changes.Brad Crowell 3:32  Yes, he does, yes he does. It's a very it's like crazy range. 1990s. Lesley Logan 3:38  Hey. Well, why don't you say, well, let's just see if you picked the one I pick.Brad Crowell 3:41  All right. Well, so there's a bunch. Brad Crowell 3:44  There's so many. (inaudible)Lesley Logan 3:45  It also really spans a whole decade, because, like, one of the songs I was like, that was the 90s, I remember being like, in the sixth grade, and the one I picked, I remember, like, knowing in high school. So anyways, clearly, that's what I did in the 90s, was go to school. What do you got?Brad Crowell 3:58  All right. All right. So obviously, Tubthumping by Chumbawamba.Lesley Logan 4:03  Oh, of course, I wouldn't pick that, but yes, Tubthumping was great. But they're not really a one-hit wonder because they had another hit. Brad Crowell 4:09  No, they didn't. Lesley Logan 4:10  Oh, they didn't? Brad Crowell 4:10  I don't think they had another hit. Lesley Logan 4:11  They had another song that, like, made it to my radio in Lodi. It wasn't as good, you're right. Brad Crowell 4:19  I mean, if they did, oh yeah, you know what, I get knocked down. Lesley Logan 4:25  Yeah, that's not Tubthumping? Brad Crowell 4:27  I think it is Tubthumping. How come it's oh, they released it different titles. Lesley Logan 4:31  Okay. Brad Crowell 4:32  No, I think it's the same. So, yeah, I basically, I think that's their song. Lesley Logan 4:35  Okay, all right. Brad Crowell 4:36  That is the only one that I actually know. Lesley Logan 4:38  Okay, so okay, how do you how are you going to pick between Sex and Candy and Closing Time? Brad Crowell 4:43  Oh, Sex and Candy is great. Lesley Logan 4:45  Because did you even listen to Sex and Candy when you were in the 90s? Brad Crowell 4:47  No, on the school bus. Lesley Logan 4:49  Okay. Brad Crowell 4:49  I love sex and candy. Yeah, so, but, but also, listen like there's so many others. Lesley Logan 4:55  Yeah, it's a lot deeper. Brad Crowell 4:57  How about Macarena?Lesley Logan 4:58  Well, no, can't even start with that one. That's not good. It's gonna get in your head. Brad Crowell 5:02  How about Breakfast at Tiffany's by Deep Blue Something? Lesley Logan 5:05  Is Chumbawamba and Tubthumping the same song or different song?Brad Crowell 5:08  Chumbawamba is the band. Lesley Logan 5:10  Oh, I see, I see, I see. Okay. Brad Crowell 5:11  Yeah. How about Semisonic?Lesley Logan 5:14  Well, yeah, that's exactly what I was saying. Closing Time. That's the best song. Brad Crowell 5:19  It's a great song. Lesley Logan 5:20  Did you know? And I think Bitter Sweet Symphony was a one-hit because they, I think they got in trouble with the music. Brad Crowell 5:25  Oh yeah, yeah. Lesley Logan 5:26  Which is such a bummer, because it's such a good song. Brad Crowell 5:28  Um, okay, 2000s. Lesley Logan 5:30  Oh yeah, I guess we have to get out of the 90s. Brad Crowell 5:31  We're moving on. 2000s, there's a couple, but I think my famous, my favorite.Lesley Logan 5:38  Hold on, I have to go back. Save Tonight. That's another one-hit wonder. Brad Crowell 5:43  Yeah. Eagle-Eye Cherry, I would never have been able to tell you the name of the band.Lesley Logan 5:48  Yeah. Okay. Anyways, go ahead. 2000 Brad Crowell 5:49  All right. 2000s. Lesley Logan 5:50  A great time for fashion. Brad Crowell 5:52  Yeah. Teenage Dirtbag by Wheatus. Lesley Logan 5:56  Oh, that. I need. Brad Crowell 5:57  I'm just a teenage dirtbag baby.Lesley Logan 6:00  Dirt bag, baby. Oh, my god.Brad Crowell 6:03  Or Somebody That I Used to Know by Gautier. Lesley Logan 6:07  Oh, yeah. Brad Crowell 6:08  You're just somebody that I used to know. Gnarls Barkley, I don't know if he's really a one-hit wonder, because he has a career and but, but he's also part of another group, all the things.Lesley Logan 6:20  Is this I Wasn't Me? Brad Crowell 6:21  No, crazy.Lesley Logan 6:23  Oh, okay, but isn't he the same person who Wasn't Me? Brad Crowell 6:26  Wasn't me. I don't think so. Lesley Logan 6:29  Okay, this is exactly what people want to hear. They're yelling at us in their videos. I want you, if you're yelling at as right now, tell us who.Lesley Logan 6:36  2010's Psy. Lesley Logan 6:38  Psy. Brad Crowell 6:39  Yeah. Gangnam Style.Lesley Logan 6:41  Oh, that. That's an annoying that's like the Macarena. It makes me mad.Brad Crowell 6:45  I think it became like the most watched YouTube video in history, or something like that. I can't remember. And then here we go. Now we've got other notables. Vanessa Carlton, 1000 Miles. Oh, Mighty Mighty Bosstones, The impression I Get, yeah, that's the 90s. 1000 Miles is 2002. Anyway, if you have a favorite one-hit wonder that we did not cover here, you have to make sure you let us know. Lesley Logan 7:18  I guess, when do we find out it's a one-hit wonder? Because, like, is there any one-hit wonders that are recent, you know, or is it like we don't it doesn't happen because, like, the labels don't even make any, you know, risks, take any risks anymore. You know what? I have a one-hit wonder for everyone. It's not happened yet, but I believe in it. There is a great turkey song that you can all go listen to our dear friend, Geoffro. This is going to be a definite one-hit wonder. He is not a one hit wonder. He is a Grammy Award winning writer, but he has a gobble song that we can all, as a Be It group, make a one-hit wonder, if you go to Spotify right now and listen to this. Brad Crowell 8:00  Really hilarious turkey song. Lesley Logan 8:01  Hilarious Thanksgiving song in September.Brad Crowell 8:06  Geoffro is G-E-O-F-F-R-O. If you're really curious about this, ping us and I'll send you a link. So I looked it up at what time after a band is out, do we decide that it's a one-hit wonder band? There's no official rule, but there is an understood 10-year rule. The music industry observers often consider an artist a one-hit wonder if they fail to produce another significant chart topping hit within 10 years of their initial success.Lesley Logan 8:30  10 you've 10 years to have another hit. You guys, did you hear that?Brad Crowell 8:34  Chart-topping. So that's like getting drafted to the NBA twice.Lesley Logan 8:39  Okay. Regardless, uh, that means, everyone, you are allowed to have two amazing goals happen in 10 years and still be considered ridiculously amazing. And so don't like, don't worry about how long the valley is in between, because you too could have another hit. Brad Crowell 8:57  Ain't no valley. Lesley Logan 8:58  Oh, but that's not a one-hit wonder. That, in fact, is a wonderful song, which we're not going to sing right now because we got to move on. Lesley Logan 9:05  You guys, next week we're going to be in Chicago, P.O.T. Chicago at Burr Ridge. We're going to celebrate our 10-year wedding anniversary. I'm gonna teach at Joe gyms, Joe's gyms. You gotta check it out. I don't think there's any spots left, but if, you should always come by.Brad Crowell 9:19  Yeah, come hang at the booth. Just come say hello, you know.Lesley Logan 9:22  I should always just check because sometimes people can't make it and someone's trying to sell a ticket, so go check it out. Also in October, which is next week. So we're gonna go to Cambodia. We're gonna fly from Chicago to Cambodia. Yeah, I'm shipping clothes home. This is not I'm shipping clothes to somewhere, and I don't even understand the weather that we are doing in this world. Brad Crowell 9:41  Yeah, maybe I'll ship clothes home too. That's not a bad idea. Lesley Logan 9:44  Yeah because, like, what? What are we going to do with Chicago clothes in Cambodia? Yeah. Also, we kind of just stay indoors the whole time so, but whatever, still gonna send some clothes home. You can go to crowesnestretreats.com to sign up for next year's Cambodia retreat. There's an amazing waitlist you can get on. Brad Crowell 10:03  Yeah, get on the waitlist because in January, we're going to be making a big announcement about the dates and all the things and doing the early bird, so.Lesley Logan 10:10  People on the wait list, get the best early bird. Brad Crowell 10:12  People on the waitlist get the early bird. Lesley Logan 10:14  And if it sells on the early bird, well, then that's all. Then we're going to go to, on our way home from Cambodia, we're gonna hit Singapore. We have a long layover. We're going to do a little bit Botanical Garden viewing, but we're also gonna teach some Pilates there. So I'm super, super excited about that. I don't even know if you can go, but I'll be there. Brad Crowell 10:29  No, it's a closed event. Lesley Logan 10:30  It's closed event. But Brad, so Brad just wants to make sure, you know, we're gonna be in Singapore. Brad Crowell 10:33  That's where we're gonna be. Lesley Logan 10:34  And you can't come. Brad Crowell 10:35  No, sorry. Lesley Logan 10:36  Sorry. In December, we're also going to be on winter tour, and we're actually announcing that next week. Opc.me/events, October 1st. Brad Crowell 10:46  October 1st y'all. Get ready.Lesley Logan 10:47  We have people who are like, when is it announcing? When is it announcing? You better be on opc.me/events, because they're gonna get a special email, then our list gets email, then it does get posted on the socials. But you know the algorithm, so you're gonna want to make sure this is gonna be the coolest event, and I want to see you at several locations. I'm just saying, I'm demanding that. So before we get into the amazing. Lesley Logan 11:08  I mean, this past tour, this past summer tour, we had multiple people at multiple events.Lesley Logan 11:12  I think I also just want to announce, can I? I'm going to add two more things, because it's now officially announced, we could talk about it. So January, we're going to be at the Pilates Expo, so that you want to be the Pilates Journal Expo will be there with a booth, and I'll be teaching. And then. Brad Crowell 11:26  Where is that? Lesley Logan 11:28  It's in Huntington Beach. But there it says L.A. so it's L.A. adjacent. It's in Huntington Beach, (inaudible) in January is stunning, wonderful. And we're going to be there. The dates, I don't remember, but they're, they're kind of like that right after we're done with winter tour, we're like, just going to keep the tour bus, going to be completely honest, and then we are going to go, we'll be home for a little bit. Then in March, I'm going to be in Poland at the Contrology conference in Poland, with Karen Frischman, and then Karen, Brad and I are going to do a little backpacking around the lovely Europe for a couple days, and we're going to land in Belgium, and I can officially announce we are teaching in Brussels at Elle's studio. Pillow Tells, and we're having a really wonderful conference with Elle's and Karen and I. So I don't have a link for that in the moment we're recording, but I promise you, if you go, if you just Google.Brad Crowell 12:23  I just want to make a clarification. It's not the Pilates Expo, it's the Pilates Journal Expo. Lesley Logan 12:29  Yeah, I said that. Brad Crowell 12:30  Okay. Pilates Journal Expo, yeah. So search for the Pilates journal Expo 2026, and you'll find the one that Lesley is at. They are tickets are open. I think for that now.Brad Crowell 12:42  Yeah they're open. Lesley Logan 12:43  So yeah, definitely check it out. Yep, and then, and then Poland, and then Brussels, so that takes you all the way into end of March. So Europe, it's not technically a tour, but we got two places, so you better come. You better come I'm telling you, don't even know what 2027 has in store. Barely can keep up with what's going on right now. Just saying. So anyways, okay, now, before we get with Wendy, we have to answer one of the wonderful questions that came in. Lesley Logan 13:13  We sure do. All right, betterdaypilates is asking, hey, I'm not a foot this isn't a footwork question per se, per se, but footwork related, what are your thoughts on an unpadded foot bar? Lesley Logan 13:27  Love it. Brad Crowell 13:28  Betterdaypilates, I can already tell you the answer is, better than a padded foot bar. Why? Feedback. Oh, shoot. Because also safety. Oh, shoot. Brad, jumping in for the win here, okay, you can take over. Lesley Logan 13:42  Yeah, I think some people would argue that the padded bars are less slippery, so they'll there's a, here's a deal on. Brad Crowell 13:48  If your feet are like, crusty or slimy, then sure you're gonna slide, but. Lesley Logan 13:54  Some people have sweaty palms. Brad Crowell 13:56  I mean, I guess so. I personally would just have chalk in the studio for that. I think it would make it stickier, though it's metal. Brad Crowell 14:02  You would, one would think, but I think it depends on the person. But anyway, I agree with you on all of that, just because you can have a better grip on the foot bar with an unpadded bar, you can feel it. It is. We are. We need to teach grip strength. Grip strength does not come from hanging out in wrist. So I love an unpadded foot bar so when your hands are on, you can actually get your forearms on. I love it on the feet. I know people were. Brad Crowell 14:25  You were thinking about with your hands. Of course, I was thinking about it with my feet. Lesley Logan 14:29  Yeah, yeah. So with feet, I love it because you're right feedback, um, a football, a foot pad, a foot bar. It's really easy for you not to notice that your foot is pushing harder on one side than the other. Also, those who think it's gonna be painful. The actual reality is, if you're doing footwork correctly, unless you have a like, like, a literal foot condition, like some sometimes diabetics, or some people with like, neuropathy, you actually are not feeling the metal on your foot because you're not pushing from the knee. You're pushing from the whole center. And so if you're doing it, if you're doing footwork correctly, even on four springs, I do not feel pain. And I used to have, like, like, I kind of don't have any fat on the bottom of my big toe ball of my foot, but it doesn't, I don't feel it as painful I thought I would. I truly did. I remember, I remember the studio when they're like, oh, we're gonna take the pads off the foot bars. I'm like, I just, I just was like, oh my god. I literally thought to myself, they're gonna lose all their business. Like, that's what I thought. I fucking love it. I love it. Take the pad off. I promise you'll love it. If you have an if you've a question and you want to answer to a question, any kind of question, you can go to beitpod.questions and submit your questions, or your win, beitpod.com/question?Brad Crowell 15:41  Yes.Lesley Logan 15:41  Yeah, that's what I said. Brad Crowell 15:43  Say it again. Lesley Logan 15:45  BeItPod.com/questions, yes.Lesley Logan 15:47  Or you can text us at 310-905-5534.Brad Crowell 15:51  310-905-5534Lesley Logan 15:56  We still haven't, see, it's really easy see, we still haven't purchased like, 310 be it pod.Brad Crowell 16:03  We're not gonna do that. Lesley Logan 16:05  Why? I think it's so much more easy to remember. Don't you remember like, the oh, you know, like 805, called, got junk. Like, yeah. All right, let's talk about Wendy Valentine. Brad Crowell 16:19  Stick around. We'll be right back.Brad Crowell 16:21  All right. Welcome back. Let's talk about Wendy Valentine. Wendy is an author and the host of the midlife makeover show, and is often described as a magical beam of light, known for her energy and constant evolving.Lesley Logan 16:36  Please add something like that to my bio. She's often talked about as a magical beam of light, I would like it added to my bio.Brad Crowell 16:44  You're just a red-headed magical beam of light. Lesley Logan 16:46  Yeah. Brad Crowell 16:47  At 45 Wendy overcame divorce, chronic illness and $150,000 of debt, pivoting from unemployment. Pivoting is I hate that word. She figured out a way to get out of unemployment. And then had corporate success, and then she quit her corporate success and to follow her passions, which is pretty (inaudible).Lesley Logan 17:09  Yeah, she like, got in and out and, like, really, yeah, within a couple of years, I think we hate pivot guys, because we are tired of being the pivoters. Like, we're so good at pivoting and like, I can't fucking pivot one more time before I'm turned back the way I started. I'm just gonna say it right now. Brad Crowell 17:22  Well, Wendy pivoted into authoring Women Waking Up: The Midlife Manifesto for PassionPurpose and Play. She's providing guidance through her robust framework for individuals seeking to make significant shifts in their lives, especially during pivotal periods like midlife. Lesley Logan 17:40  That's a better pivotal. Brad Crowell 17:41  That's a better pivotal, that's a pivotal, that's a real pivotal.Lesley Logan 17:45  I don't know why we just started critiquing a bio. Alright. Brad Crowell 17:48  It's a bio we wrote. Lesley Logan 17:49  Yeah, it's a bio we wrote. Brad Crowell 17:51  We wrote it. Lesley Logan 17:51  So that's not how we treat our guests. We wrote that one.Brad Crowell 17:55  Wendy kicks ass and takes names. And it's amazing. You know, it's always, it's always fascinating to me to meet someone who is divorced, because if they're out and about and they're putting their their best foot forward, you're meeting them and you're like, This person is so cool. How could they have been in a relationship that didn't go well, right? And.Brad Crowell 18:21  I agree I understand what you mean, because you. Brad Crowell 18:22  Do you know what I mean. Like, we meet them and we're like, wow, I love this person. How did, how did it, how did it all break down and, and I, I want to say that her bio kind of, I feel like her bio is something that we often overlook in that assumption, and that she pivoted. She made major changes from where who she was and where she was and what she wanted and all the things to who she is today. So now that we're meeting her, she's had this massive life experience that forced change, forced self- reflection, and she's come out the other side a magical beam of light.Lesley Logan 19:05  Yeah, exactly, exactly. And I think, like, you know, especially if you get divorced in your 40s, right? Like she had a kid, like she had a whole life, and, you know, life turned out differently than she expected. And it does when you're when you're into your 20s, like, this is how my life's gonna be. And then you get to your 30s, like, thank fucking god, it didn't turn out like that. But some people got married in there and so.Brad Crowell 19:29  Well, I feel like that, like, and the reason that I, I am reflecting on that is because I feel like that happened for me too in in that. Lesley Logan 19:36  Oh, were you hoping I say how did you get divorced? How could anyone let you go?Brad Crowell 19:40  Yes, this was really just a long fishing excursion for you to compliment me. You're lucky to catch me, babe. No, I even it personally, in my own self-love, who I was before, I thought I knew who I was and I felt confident, sort of, but after that experience, then I actually was like, I had spent the better part of a year just working on me, just thinking about me, thinking about my actions, my thoughts, the things that I was doing, and making decisions on those instead of spending like coasting through or floating through or just not really being attuned to any of that stuff, like we often get into these, these grooves, these ruts, and that don't realize, because you're forced into this, this period of self-reflection and introspection, I feel like you come out the other side feeling better, you know, hopefully, yeah. Lesley Logan 20:46  Yeah. I think so. I think also, anytime something literally changes your life, like you're lit where you wake up, who you wake up with, where you wake up, all that, all that stuff you it has to change you, and if it doesn't, you get to do it again. That's how life goes. Here's I liked. She said she critiques the often big advice, like, be your authentic self. Love her. Brad Crowell 21:10  Be authentic. Lesley Logan 21:11  My god, when we first saw this podcast, you remember like we had so many people whose be it action was like, get to know yourself. Be authentic. And I was like, so we're gonna need to understand, how do you do that? Brad Crowell 21:22  How? Lesley Logan 21:23  How do you do that? Brad Crowell 21:23  How does one get to know themselves? Lesley Logan 21:26  She said, she clarified, it's not learning who you are to become. It's learning who you are not. I love that, because I think a lot of people start with what they want or who they want to be, but you certainly know who you don't want to be. You certainly know what you don't like and what you don't want to be. I think that sometimes it's easier to start with, like, I don't want to be that, so I want to be that. Then what changes do I have to make? If I don't want to be person who who mopes around all the time, well then what are you gonna do? You know? So I really, I really liked that. And she said, oh, she, she, she used an analogy of Michelangelo's carving, David, where he just, is it Michelangelo or David? Brad Crowell 22:08  Michelangelo's carving of David. Lesley Logan 22:09  Of David. Clearly, I'm not. Hello, guys, my family was a was poor.Brad Crowell 22:13  Our history 17 over there. Lesley Logan 22:15  Well, okay, let me just tell you, there was no art history in my schooling. I was a poor girl at public school known art history, and my family doesn't have art because that's expensive stuff. So I am not educated. So Michelangelo's carving of the David, where he just carved everything away that was not him.Brad Crowell 22:35  Yep. Lesley Logan 22:36  You don't like the word of the David. Brad Crowell 22:37  It's not the David. Lesley Logan 22:38  It's just David. Lesley Logan 22:39  It's just David carving dvid, carving of David. Yeah, is this David?Lesley Logan 22:45  Somebody? Where is it? When the one from the Bible? Is it just a random David?Brad Crowell 22:49  I'm pretty sure it's David from the Bible. Let me find out now, because (inaudible).Lesley Logan 22:52  Like David of David and Goliath,Brad Crowell 22:55  they say Michelangelo's David because it's called the statue is called David. But who is David? Michael and David? No one. Lesley Logan 23:10  GDavid is, come on chat GPT. Come on right. Be faster. People are waiting.Lesley Logan 23:18  They're yelling at us. They already know.Lesley Logan 23:20  Doesn't actually say, oh, so we don't it could be any David. Brad Crowell 23:22  No, I don't think so. She was somebody. Lesley Logan 23:22  Like from Schitt's Creek. It's David from Schitt's Creek. Brad Crowell 23:22  No, it's, okay, so, it is from the biblical story of David, the tale of a young shepherd boy who served the Israelites. So David and Goliath. David, pretty sure it's that David.Lesley Logan 23:38  Okay, that David, um, I think we like that. David, all right. Anyways, she advised. Brad Crowell 23:43  Did some good things, did some not so good things. Lesley Logan 23:45  Right, I'm pretty sure later in life. Brad Crowell 23:47  He's human. Lesley Logan 23:48  Yeah, um, we're all allowed to be a little human. Uh, she advised, so he caught so Michelangelo essentially carved everything was not him. And I kind of like that, like, you're just chiseling away at what's not you. Like, it's like when you clean out your closet, like, Jessica Papineau's episode, right? You got to get rid of the clothes that no longer represent who you are.Brad Crowell 24:07  I love that. And I think that's, that's a great comparison. Actually, I love that. Lesley Logan 24:11  Well, it's something we can actually apply to ourselves, since none of us are going on carving statues. I mean, maybe three listeners are. But like, I'm certain.Brad Crowell 24:18  We did end up at a sculptor's studio here in Vegas. And I was, like, intrigued, because she's been doing it for something like 50 or so years. And it was like, Wow. What a it's she made it way more hobby. She turned it into a business. Lesley Logan 24:31  It's called Romancing the Stone. Brad Crowell 24:33  Yes, it is. That's what it's called. That's impressive.Lesley Logan 24:37  Well, it's because I, like, thought about the movie, but I was never like, I just remember sitting in that place going, he's gonna want to take a class here. And I this is a skill set, I can tell you right now don't have, I don't have the patience to carve away what's not this rock. So anyways, she also explained that sometimes we know the things that are not us because we still cling to it for comfort. That's why people stick around to people that treat 'em like shit or a job they hate, because it's comfortable. It's not uncomfortable enough. Brad Crowell 25:11  Yeah, I think it's also fear, you know, fear of the unknown. I think that comfort and fear kind of go hand in hand. Believe it or not, you feel comfortable, but you're actually afraid to make change. Yeah, so you're unwilling to, like, take a risk?Lesley Logan 25:26  What is it? Like, the, the the villain you know, or the, what is it? What's the saying? Like. Brad Crowell 25:31  The devil you know is a. Lesley Logan 25:32  The devil you know it's the devil you know is better than the devil you don't know. But, like, so negative, because, like, you're assuming there's always a double out there. Anyways, there's a story about a dog that. Brad Crowell 25:44  Better the devil you know, than the devil you don't. Lesley Logan 25:47  Yeah. That's, you know what that is, you guys, the patriarchy trying to keep you small. That's what that is. It's like the penny saved is a penny earned bullshit. All those things are bullshit.Brad Crowell 25:57  That's a Malarkey, right there. Lesley Logan 25:59  Yeah. So, um, but, uh, but I also I just think, like, I go, we can go back to Gay Hendrickson. We all have a little bit of fear when we step outside our comfort zone. But you got to do it if you want to have the life that you want to have. It just doesn't happen in the way. If it was going to happen in the life you're having now, you'd have it already, right? Brad Bizjack is going to have an episode coming out really soon in October. Stay tuned. But the other day, he mentioned something like, you know, what got you here won't take you there. Brad Crowell 26:28  Yeah, yeah. I think it's good to clarify that, because if it was going to happen in the life you have right now, meaning, if the thing that you want was going to happen, why wouldn't have it have already happened today, right? Like, why wouldn't it have happened to date?Lesley Logan 26:43  Doing doing the exact same things over and over again, expecting a different result is insanity.Brad Crowell 26:48  So, I mean, that's not, that's yes, but yes, it is not a you have to change in order to get attain, or grow, or any of those things.Lesley Logan 26:58  If you hate your job, but you never look for another job, the likelihood of a job landing in your lap isn't going to happen unless you're telling people, I want a new job.Brad Crowell 27:07  Yeah, yeah. I mean, and putting that out there allows people to start, you know, responding to you, responding to that, thinking about you. You are constantly thinking about that. You know, it's you gotta, you gotta take action. Y'all take action. Lesley Logan 27:27  What do you like? Brad Crowell 27:27  My favorite thing was, when she was talking about comfort zone, we were just kind of covering it. But the comfort zone, it is a beautiful place, but nothing ever grows there, and I'm not and like, it's just another way to talk about, like, what we were just saying that I've never really thought about, I don't know, like we have these goals and what's going to happen, like, we want to get to this place or or build this thing, or have a house, or I don't buy a car, or whatever it is, like, whatever the goal is, Right? And then when we get it, you know, I think, I think that there's a time to we can allow ourselves to enjoy the thing, and we should. It's important to celebrate, right? But that shouldn't be the end of the story, right? We're not going to celebrate forever. We're not going to enjoy it forever. There's, I think, like there. This is where this idea of balance, like there's, there's a, imagine, if you're, let's think about about, like a work week. Imagine if the work week, you take the weekend to enjoy the fishing boat that you bought, because you use it, you go out and you use it. But then during the week, you're doing what you're moving the ball forward with life with, you know, there's you're creating growth. And this idea that the comfort zone is a beautiful place, but nothing ever grows there, you know, unless you're trying to become a pro fishermen you know, or woman, you're not going out on the fishing boat to practice. You're going out in the fishing boat to enjoy. It's a comfort. It's a comfort, but, but nothing's growing there, you know, except maybe your beer belly, right? Because you're just throwing them back. Lesley Logan 29:09  It's an interesting analogy. I can follow it, I think so.Brad Crowell 29:15  She quoted Marianne Williamson. She said, our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. I don't know. I'm like, she's I think she's an interesting lady, yet she's very influential. But I think that, I don't think that people are afraid that they're powerful. I think that's a that's like, that's an interesting, intriguing thing to say, but I don't think anybody thinks about themselves being powerful and being afraid of that, unless maybe, if they're a parent, maybe then they're like, oh my god, I'm in I have I'm responsible for somebody's life. There's power there.Lesley Logan 29:53  I certainly hope every parent thinks that. I really wonder. Brad Crowell 29:56  I really hope so. But. Lesley Logan 29:58  Our listeners, who are parents, do. So I hear you. I don't, because I don't go wrong. I'm so powerful. I'm going to, like, I don't. I often think, like, oh my god, I'm not good enough for this, but I understand the sentiment. And so if we just put a different person's name on there, I think you probably wouldn't doubt it so much. Brad is just showing his true colors on Marianne Williamson, I actually think that is I, I actually think I can explain that sentence too. So many people's goals actually scare them. You don't think of a goal in life that you want to do. Nothing comes to your mind of something that you desire to do unless you had the power to do it right. And so I think their goals are exciting, and then scare the fuck out of them. And so I think that that's what the deepest fear is (inaudible) because they're what they what everybody here believe, like, someday I'm going to be doing X, but then they go, then they have to, like, take the next step, and it's like, oh, how am I going to do that? You know, like, and so I actually think that that's where the line is, but.Brad Crowell 31:03  I just, I just went to a rally where somebody made an announcement that they were going to run for a political office, and and I immediately felt scared for them, of like, oh my god, this is like a really tall order, like, this is a this is a huge this felt intimidating, and it created this fear. And it was really weird, because it was a relatively intimate setting. And she, she jokingly said, Does anybody think I'm crazy? And I raised my hand, and she said, Oh, you have a question? And I said, no, I think you're crazy to the whole crowd. I said, But crazy in a good way. I said, this. This creates a lot of fear in me, but it's the kind of fear that makes you want to go do the thing. It's not like the fear of that, like, incapacitating fear, but it's that, like, it's like, if anybody's ever done skydiving, there's that moment where you're leaning out of the plane and you're like, holy shit, I'm about to do this, right? And, yeah, so, you know, I think, you know, there's something to that, like, that's, that's kind of fear, that is, like, it is motivating, yeah, you know what I mean.Lesley Logan 32:28  Yeah, I do. I think it's really great. I think that, like, I really just like what Wendy said, let's go back to when quoting Wendy, yeah, which is the comfort zone is a beautiful place, but nothing ever grows there. Like, a comfort zone is like laying on your couch every night watching binge watching Netflix, but wishing you had a friend or a partner. Nothing's growing on that fucking couch. Nothing so you know, what else?Brad Crowell 32:52  Yeah. Well, that just made me think of your coffee for two things. I thought, I think it's I just really think it's cool that you were very intentional about how you were building your life so that you weren't just sitting on the couch, or weren't just working yourself to death. You know, in the middle of working hard.Lesley Logan 33:09  I also saved every Thursday night for a date night. Would not let a fry, would not hang out with a friend if nothing had nothing, no one asked. I just went home on a Thursday night. I saved that night and I saved Christmas for a partner. Look what I got.Brad Crowell 33:25  That's right, you're lucky to have me. Lesley Logan 33:26  I got a divorcee who would ever let him go.Brad Crowell 33:32  Wendy said when you get to the other side of that comfort that is more beautiful, and yes, you will then grow. So comfort, I feel like has its place, but it's also it can be like a sticking point. So, yeah, I think it's great. I think, you know, there's a time for it, but there's also a time to keep moving. Yeah. Brad Crowell 33:57  Well, stick around. We, by the way, I don't know if we said this yet, except for the very beginning, but Wendy is a fireball of energy.Lesley Logan 34:08  Oh, if you haven't listened, you need to go, she's like a cold shower in a good way, you know. Brad Crowell 34:13  Yeah, it's such a fun conversation. Lesley Logan 34:16  If you're having a funky day, you gotta go listen to it. You'll have an unfunky day. Brad Crowell 34:20  Yes, love it. Lesley Logan 34:21  I'm pretty sure that this recap is one of the weirdest you've ever listened to, so.Brad Crowell 34:24  Well, stick around. We'll be right back, because we're going to cover those epic Be It Action Items that we got from Wendy, that she made up on the treadmill right before while she's doing her workout, right before your interview. So we'll be right back. Brad Crowell 34:38  All right, so finally, all right, so finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. Say it with me, what bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Wendy Valentine? Lesley Logan 34:52  Well, why don't you start? Brad Crowell 34:53  Yeah, so she made up her own Be It framework, and she said, B become your own BFF. She really is focused on self-love, I think that was one of the things that she learned after going through her midlife crisis. She said you've got to stop that ticker tape of thoughts, the negative thoughts, and replace it with something really good, friendly thoughts. E, envision, envision who you want to become, not just the what, who you want to become, not just the what. Right? I is invite her in, act as if, literally say every single day, act like the woman or person you want to become, right? So invite her in. And then T she said take it. Lesley Logan 35:37  Take action. Brad Crowell 35:38  Take it. She asked how do you get courage? By taking action. Leap and then network will appear, right? So I love it. I think that's a great spin on, you know, bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted.Lesley Logan 35:51  And she gave more. But also I feel like we should like save this, because this is a great way to describe what being it till you see it is. From the beam of light of Wendy Valentine. She defined it for us. She also said she heard Deepak Deepak Chopra say, feel your way through life. Feel your way through life. And so she advised, no matter what we were doing, to ask ourselves, how does it feel, and more importantly, how does it feel to who you are becoming and the life you're creating? Does it does it lie? Does it align? That's, that's not a one-hit wonder, but it's a great song. She also said stop overthinking. Just feel your way through life. I, actually, I know that can scare people, because they're like, I they're like, holding a tight grip on life, because, if they like, let go, chaos is gonna happen. It's gonna fucking happen anyways. That's life. I tell you right now, on one of these days, we'll tell you about how hot the house got and how we had to move a workshop.Brad Crowell 36:48  Oh that was so fun. Lesley Logan 36:49  You know, like, it doesn't matter how planned out your life is, how well you thought about all the things, how many reminders you sent things, the AC can still blow because it's not like it has a warning symbol. So I'm just telling you all, explode. So stop overthinking and feel your way through. Because I promise you, if you can take that like, just feel your way through and then your tight grip on reality, I think you're gonna land right there in the middle. So.Brad Crowell 37:16  It's a win.Lesley Logan 37:17  I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 37:18  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 37:19  Thank you so much for listening to our amazing episode, I have to say, let us know if you like how the wheels fell off today, and if you think it was great, or if you want us to go back to how we've done it before. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 37:33  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 37:35  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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Lesley sits down with coach, author, and podcast host Wendy Valentine to explore radical self-transformation in midlife. Wendy shares how to shed limiting identities, align with your true self, and treat “energy” as a constant evolution. You will hear practical steps to envision who you're becoming, invite her in, and take bold action without waiting for perfect timing.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:Chiseling away identities that are not you to reveal your authentic self.Comfort zones vs. growth: why familiar isn't the same as aligned.Wendy's midlife pivot from breakdown to purpose-driven rebuilding.Her BE IT method: Become, Envision, Invite, Take action.Feeling your way through life instead of overthinking every move.Episode References/Links:Wendy Valentine Website - https://wendyvalentine.comWendy Valentine Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/wendy_valentine_Free Access to FREEDOM Meditations - https://beitpod.com/freedommeditationsThe Midlife Makeover Show - https://wendyvalentine.com/podcastBook: Women Waking Up by Wendy Valentine - https://wendyvalentine.com/womenwakingupEp. 400: Gay Hendricks - https://beitpod.com/gayhendricksStephanie Gass on Cathy Heller's Podcast - https://beitpod.com/stephaniegassGuest Bio:Wendy Valentine is a speaker, certified professional life coach, and author of Women Waking Up—a midlife rebel with a mission to help women reignite their spark and embrace the magic of midlife. As the host of The Midlife Makeover Show podcast, ranked in the top 1% globally and #1 in midlife on iTunes and Spotify, Wendy inspires her listeners to embrace the magic of midlife and live with passion and purpose. Through her transformative group coaching program, F.R.E.E.D.O.M. at Midlife, and her in-person retreats, Wendy helps women kick fear to the curb, reclaim their joy, and live life on their terms. Whether she's soaking up the beauty of Madeira, Portugal, or cruising across the USA in her trusty motorhome, Felicia, Wendy lives for adventure and believes that life only gets better with age. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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And we, deep down, know what those things are, but sometimes we still cling to those things that we are not, right, because it feels comfortable.Lesley Logan 0:20  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:59  All right, Be It babe. I'm so obsessed. I'm so obsessed with today's guest. Like, there's times I'm like, oh, I love all these people. And then there's times I'm like, okay, this guest, I want to be friends with. I want to have coffee with. I want to have a weekly date with. When I enter her, I'd say, like, she is like, this beam of light. And I'm telling you, she's a beam of light, and she really, really, really creates this amazing space for you to step up into the woman that you are wanting to be it till you see it. So Wendy Valentine's, our guest, super, super fun. She's the host of the Midlife Makeover Show, and I was on her show. So if you want to go check out that show to get to know her more. And you know, that's a good episode to start with, because obviously you trust me, so there's that. And then you can, like, go through all of her catalog. She's just so amazing. So I'm gonna let us get into this episode so you can get all the good stuff coming from Wendy Valentine. Lesley Logan 1:45  All right, Be It babe, today's guest and I are already having too much fun. She's only in Sedona right now, so she's not too far off, but I feel like we should be hanging out in real life. Wendy Valentine, you're just, tell everyone why you're just such the magical like beam of light that we all want to be around and be your best friend.Wendy Valentine 2:16  How much time do we have?Lesley Logan 2:21  I mean at least 30 minutes of you telling us why you're so amazing.Wendy Valentine 2:27  There is one word that I hear all the time. It's a word that's used to describe me the most. No, it's not crazy. I do get that sometimes, but it's energy, energy, energy, energy. And I was thinking about this this morning, because, as we know, like, energy cannot be created or destroyed. Yeah, it's only transformed into something else, right? You had an ice cube on the pan back there in the RV, and then it melts into water, and then eventually it goes into steam. And I think that's like, I feel like, for myself right now in my life, like I am becoming that steam and moving into the universe. That sounds all so voodoo, but it's like that constant evolving, which I think is so magnificent, and just moving into the energy of it all.Lesley Logan 3:18  Yeah, I think that's so cool. So how did you become someone who is, like, known for energy? Like, how did this like, have like, were you born this way? Was this your job when you were in your 20s? Did this just happen?Wendy Valentine 3:30  Well, you know, I mean, good question. I mean, as you know, we're all energy, but I think it's when I really started to own, to own it, to own who I am and to create who I wanted to be, not to family and friends and society and all that other crap wanted me to be. It's when I finally stepped into my true self and my true calling. And I think you know what? Like that whole like, be your authentic self, be your true self, that's all like being thrown around a lot these days. We're like, what does that mean? What does it mean, really?Lesley Logan 4:04  I know, but tell me how, but tell me how. Because I was born like I was raised in like, follow these instructions. Do this work. If you do all these things, then everything works out, which is bullshit and so and then people go and then be your authentic self. And I'm like, okay, but how? Because I don't think I've ever been, I was never taught to be authentic. I was taught to follow the rules. Wendy Valentine 4:23  Yeah, you know what though? It's more about it's not learning who you are to become. It's learning who you are not. And I love the analogy of Michelangelo and the beautiful statue of David. Let's all picture him for a moment. Oh yes. But when they when they asked Michelangelo, how did you carve the statue of David? He's like, oh, that was easy. I just carved away everything that was not him. So if you think about it, you should always have that chisel in your hand in the nicest of ways, but constantly and consciously be chiseling away the things that are not you. And we, deep down, know what those things are, but sometimes we still cling to those things that we are not, right, because it feels comfortable. Even though it's uncomfortable, it's comfortable, it's like, but this is who I am. This is my identity, yeah.Lesley Logan 5:14  Well, and I think, like, I think a lot of people, you said it's my identity, it's their identity, to be always going through drama, to be always like, to always have a shit day at work. Like, can you believe it? Can you believe this happened? Like those, it's that's some people's identity. And, like, I get so annoyed with myself when I, like, hear myself repeating the same negative, bad thing that happened, and I'm like, is this becoming something that has, like, a growth on my shoulder, or like, like, is this becoming part of the of like, of the not the costume, but like, what is Lesley? Because it's like, I don't want to hear this anymore, so I definitely don't want to stick around. So I love the idea of a, I go a visual, physical chisel going no, no, no.Wendy Valentine 5:58  Part of you know that is not you. There's that quote from Marianne Williamson, it is my fave, and it's got me through the toughest of times, or gotten me to where I'm at now. And she says, our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness, that most frightens us, because you think about it, if you were to step fully into your light, what does that mean? Like what does that look like? Right? Because that would require, possibly, just like myself, it would require maybe a divorce, maybe quitting a job you hate, maybe moving, maybe buying an RV like I did. Maybe, I mean, it's going to require you to actually move and do some shit in your life if you truly stepped into your light, but, or you could just stay right there in the dark because it's more comfortable, because it's predictable. The darkness is predictable, the the uncomfortable comfort zone is predictable, predictable, right? Yeah.Lesley Logan 7:03  Yeah, I mean, I don't know who said it, but, like, there is, like, that story of, like, why does a dog, like, not move off of sitting on that rock? It's like, well, the rock isn't uncomfortable enough, you know, and so a lot of people wait to, wait so long, and so they're so uncomfortable, and then they shed it all, and then they step into this light. And that, it can be scary. Like we interviewed Gay Hendricks on this podcast, and he is the, I know, I fucking love him, he's such a sweet man. He's just, he, like, every time I go to Cambodia, he's like, did you get some milk fruit? Like, he's just, he's like, it's the best fruit. And he is right. It is the best fruit. And it's only available half of the time, so I'm never there, but I got to have it. But at any rate, he talks about your big leap is, like, because, like, when you are in your comfort zone, you can even, like, he even called like, your your like, zone of genius, and you're like, okay, well, that's a good spot to be in. Like, that's like, amazing, but it's or zone of excellence, excuse me. Like, of course I would like to be there. Like, that sounds really good, but like, that's actually still uncomfortable, but like it's comfortable, like it's actually not where your light is, that you're talking about, it's like, it's like, there's another layer, there's an outer ring, there's that ring of light around Saturn, and you're supposed to be there. Wendy Valentine 7:03  That's just like, dipping your toe in the water. Lesley Logan 7:13  Yeah, but then he and he talks about, like, how, well, when you get to that zone of genius, when you get to that outer ring, you get to your light, then there's, like, a few things that we do to just fuck it all up and bring us back to that comfortable discomfort, you know, like that self-deprivation.Lesley Logan 7:13  And a comfort zone is a beautiful place, but nothing ever grows there.Lesley Logan 8:38  Oh, Wendy Valentine, say it one more time.Wendy Valentine 8:44  Soak it up. Soak it up. A comfort zone is a beautiful place, but nothing ever grows there. So if you want to grow, I know y'all do, you have got to get out of that damn comfort zone. You know, I want to say though, I was on the treadmill this morning, and I was thinking. Lesley Logan 8:58  Do you have a treadmill in your RV or do you go the gym? Wendy Valentine 9:04  No, I'm actually at this nice resort. I mean, RVing has come a long way, y'all, thank God.Lesley Logan 9:09  I mean, we live in our van like it's it's not so bad. Sometimes it's better than the hotel.Wendy Valentine 9:12  We got, we got hot tubs, we got swimming pools, we got food trucks. I mean, we don't mess around over here. But yeah, I was at the gym this morning and I was walking on the treadmill, and I was thinking, I love the name I have since the moment when I met you and I heard about your podcast. I love the name of your podcast. Be It Till You See It. And I got choked, people were probably like, why is that lady over there balling on the treadmill? And you know, right now, I'm reaping the benefits of what I sowed years ago and getting outside of my damn comfort zone. But you know, what's so cool? I might cry right now. I did not put on waterproof mascara, but I am seeing it in my life, all those seeds I planted years ago, and that amount of time. I watered and watered those damn seeds. It's like, I'm seeing it. It's like, it's so freaking cool when you get to that other side, and yes, you will, is so it is beautiful. It's much more beautiful. And, and yes, you will grow when you get to the other side of it. If you want, I can take y'all back to my breakdown to breakthrough. Lesley Logan 10:22  I was just gonna say, I think we need to go back to the seed planting days, or at least, like, the days before the RV, the day before the book, the days before the podcast. Like, what, what? Like, who were you? How did because we love you now. But like, we loved you then. But like, what? What was the reason for all what was the reason for all this, you know, seed reaping? Wendy Valentine 10:43  And we all love a good breakdown and a breakthrough story. Lesley Logan 10:46  Yeah, we do. Wendy Valentine 10:47  But make sure everyone grab your violin, (inaudible) sad song right now. So let's see. For about 45 years old, here I was. I was living in Virginia, going through a divorce, empty nest. I had chronic illness, black mold toxicity, Lyme disease. We'll toss in a little menopause, just, for fun.Lesley Logan 11:10  Yeah. I mean, for sure, probably, yeah.Wendy Valentine 11:13  Yeah, yeah. I was at least 150 grand in debt, unemployed. Let's see what else. Oh, within a six week period, I had to watch my dog die, my cat die, and my brother die. And then from all of that, I started experiencing panic attacks, anxiety, and needless to say, I went into a massive, deep, dark, awful depression. So here I was, 45 years old, and I was like, shit, now what? And, I mean, I kept thinking, I was like, I only turned 50. That's like, like, that, that halfway mark, if you're that lucky that it's an halfway mark, right? And I don't know if anything could have gotten worse for me in that moment. And let's, let's just all imagine the scene. I literally was laying on my bathroom floor, like laying there, bawling my eyes out, feeling sorry for myself, I'll admit, and I was thinking, What the hell am I going to do? And all of a sudden, like, and it was part of me like this, this vision popped in my head, and it was, it was a little bit of an escape, I'll admit, but it was a beautiful escape. And I was like, wouldn't be nice to just get the fuck out of here? You know, like, I just want to escape my my life that I was in. And I was like, I want to drive an RV across the country. And then I'm like, man. And then, of course, that nagging voice in my head was like, yeah, you're broke, you don't have a job. How that? How are you going to do that? And but then I was like, you know, I just want to sit here and think about this dream. It was the only thing that gave me hope. And so I thought, you know what? What the hell like my life. I was already down here. The only way was going up, right? I was like, let's just go for it. What's the worst that could happen? I'm gonna fucking go for it. So I got up and I started applying for jobs all the way across the country, like I was, I was so desperate. I was like, I'll take anything. Okay, I'll sell popsicles in Mexico. I don't care, whatever. So then I get a job offer a week later, selling, you'll probably, you're probably familiar with his name, Pulte, Pulte Del Webb, I got a job offer with Pulte to sell new construction homes in Chicago. And I was like, Chicago. Never been there. I didn't know how to sell homes, but what the hell. I pack off the U-Haul. I drive from Virginia to Chicago. I start my job on Monday. About a year later, I went from making $0 to a half a million dollars. Obviously, paid off all my debt, bought this RV that I'm sitting in right now. Now, mind you, okay, I love Pulte, and it was a great, beautiful company. But I am not a corporate girl. I am not. Like, that's a chisel where I was like, girl listen here, you're not you, you know. And I will have to say, that's a lesson in itself, right there. Don't be afraid to try something. That does not mean if you try something, you can't pivot, okay?Lesley Logan 14:33  Right and also, like, can I just, like, say, like, I mean, clearly, Pulte was, like, quite the bridge to show you what you're capable of, and it get was a one, the fact that in one year, you can make that much money, going from zero to that much money, and not become someone who doesn't like, take your dreams the next level. You actually like, used it to launch yourself. I think it's like, I think it's so cool. Wendy Valentine 14:57  Yes and how easy would it have been for me to stay there. Lesley Logan 15:00  Oh, yeah and so. Wendy Valentine 15:01  Everyone was like, why are you gonna leave this job that you're you're killing it, killing it. I was like, yeah, but this is not for me. The chisel.Lesley Logan 15:09  Well and also, yeah, the chisel, I love that. And also, like, we had a lot of people that are like, I want to do this thing. I'm just gonna go all in. And I'm like, honey, if you can't pay for your bills, you can't pay your food, you are going to put pressure on this dream you have. Go get a job at Starbucks, make sure your bills are paid, have health insurance, all the things, and then use every other minute to make this thing happen. So I actually think it's really cool that not only you did it in a year, but that you, at a year, were able to, like, evaluate and go, I gotta chisel this off, because this isn't me, and not listen to the family who's like, you should just stay and make all that money. Wendy Valentine 15:46  Yes and remind yourself, if you are in a job you don't love, you're you're in a relationship you don't love, you're living in a place you don't love, remind yourself this is temporary. Everything is temporary, right? I mean, all in all, everything is temporary. Just remind yourself like this is just for now. This is just for now. Like, every day when I'd be, like, driving in the snow in Chicago, heading to this job to, like, talk about granite countertops. I was like, It's okay. I can do this. I cant do this. But then, yeah, I was like, all right, well, what am I going to do? I don't want to work for corporate. I and I was like, you know, I've always, I want to be a writer. I always knew I would become a writer. I was like, I want to be a writer. How am I? How am I going to become a writer? And I always wanted to have my own show. So I was like, how am I going to do this? And I had to be able to work remotely. Obviously, because traveling in an RV, I had to be able to work remotely, right? So I was listening to Cathy Heller's podcast and she was interviewing Stephanie Gass. And something, you know, it's like, if you get that funny feeling in your tummy, that gut instinct of like, I need to move on this. I don't know what it is, just do not question it. Just go for it. I hired Stephanie Gass, and within 30 minutes, I knew exactly what my niche was going to be and what my podcast was going to be called. And I was like, that's it. I had I had it. I was like, I'm going to talk about midlife. I'm going to talk about not even just midlife, but transforming your life. Because I did it, like, I was the guinea pig, right? I'm like, I did, I know how to do it. So I kept my day job, and then at night, I started working on my dream business. I started working on the website and then the photography and the the podcast, all, all the stuff, you know, right? Started doing my research and just little by little, and then eventually, the RV, finally, I ordered it like eight months before, finally arrived and it was go time to quit my job and take off into the Sedona sunset.Lesley Logan 17:51  Okay but also, like, I think it's so, I wanted to say, like, I think sometimes we, like, underestimate what we can do in a short period of time, because you just celebrated 50. Am I correct?Wendy Valentine 18:01  Yeah, yeah. So it took me, well, actually, I'm 52. It took me from the moment, like when I moved to Chicago, to taking off in the RV, it took me approximately two and a half years, and then I've been on the road for three so, yes, it takes time. And is it easy? Hell no. Is it worth it? Hell yes.Lesley Logan 18:23  Yeah, yeah. I mean, like, there's, you know, like, I think things happen faster than we think, and some things are a little slower than we expected. Like, the time, we never get the timeline exactly right. But also, like, it would have been so like, could you imagine on the bathroom floor being like, well, it's gonna take a long time. I don't know. Like, I bet, you know what I mean, I think we just take, we talk ourselves out of things so and we also think, well, I'm at this age. I should be already. Like, I should be doing this program. I should have this already. I mean, like, I kind of think it's really cool that you were the guinea pig and you can actually, like, guide so many women who, for sure, are, I said, someone on the podcast, she's like, I'm a bird launcher. I'm not an empty nester. Like, I want I like, I launched some birds. And she's, you know, but you can take the.Wendy Valentine 18:24  That's what I did. I was like, shoo, shoo. Get out. Lesley Logan 19:05  Yeah, get out of the nest. It's mine now. But like, I think that there's a ton of people who work, not given the opportunity or encouraged when they were moms and wives and partners to be selfish and do their thing like I do believe that there's a ton of women who did and so, so if you're listening, yay for you, but I think a lot of people were not, and they had to wait, and then they waited, and then they're like, well, I don't even know who I am, and everyone says to be authentic. And so I feel like you asked to be you to help people so you're right and then you have this amazing podcast, which, I got to be honest, is amazing. And it's like, but it's mid it's called Midlife Makeover. Correct? Wendy Valentine 19:51  Yep, The Midlife Makeover Show.Lesley Logan 19:53  Yes. Okay, so let's talk about like, do you feel like you do what you do? Do you feel like you'll ever run out of topics to talk about when it comes to midlife? Like, what are you and then, and then also turn it into a book. So let's go into, like, how you've, like, really made this whole thing happen.Wendy Valentine 20:10  You know, what I love about my niche is that there's so much going on in midlife. I mean, like, if I had to talk about one topic every day, oh, my God, I could not stand it. I mean, yesterday I interviewed a lady where, like, it was about grief. She lost her daughter. Daughter was 17 years old when she died. The day before, I got to talk about hormones and menopause, and then the day before that, I got to talk about divorce, like there's so, because there is so much going on. And I love, I love being the catalyst to help other people make their dreams come true. I love that I can provide that hope, whether it's with me or with a guest, or whether it's just simply, I mean, right, the best way we can teach others is by example. Like I don't, I don't fluff anything like you, what you see is what you get. Like, I didn't just say I did it or say that I'm gonna do it. Like, here you go, you know. And you know, I, what was I going to tell you? Oh, I did create the acronym for you. I have four little lessons to teach you today.Lesley Logan 21:16  Do you want to teach us now or do you want to put in the Be It Action Items?Wendy Valentine 21:20  I'm gonna teach it to you really quick. Lesley Logan 21:21  Okay, let's do it. Wendy Valentine 21:22  It's, it's the Be It, right? And this is what I just told you, that story, these are four little guide posts that you can follow so that you, too, can actually, no matter if it's a little tweak in your life or a big tweak, a big change, you can make it happen. So the B in Be It is become your own BFF like you have got to be so nice to yourself, and you have got to listen to that ticker tape of thoughts running across in your mind. And you've got to stop that ticker tape of thoughts and replace it with some really good, friendly thoughts. Because this right here, I'm pointing to my head with my large head of hair, this will either be your best friend or your worst critic, and you are the one that decides, not Instagram, not your mom, not your dad, not your partner, not your kids, it's you like that is the one thing that you have, not one, but one of the many things you have control over. And actually starting there, it's a ripple effect of everything else in your life. If you can get that under control, and yes, you can, you change your thoughts, you change your beliefs. We've all heard it before, but do we really apply it and really try it? So, yes, become your own BFF, just love the shit out of yourself. The E is envision. You've got to envision who you want to become, not the what it's great to, to, like, dream about things and RVs and (inaudible) right, but who do you want to become? Journal about it. Think about it. Take a walk and just imagine the woman that you would want to become and without limitation, right? The I is invite her in. You have got to literally, every single day, and this is exactly what I did, because my Aunt Annie said to me, when I was like in the down, down in the dumps, in depression, and I'm sitting on the couch when she goes, darling, you have always wanted to be an actress, so why don't you just start acting like the woman you want to become? And I was like, oh, I can do that. And I thought about that, right? Like we're all we're all brainwashed. We're all brainwashed into whoever we are, but we can brainwash ourselves into becoming whoever the hell we want to be. Lesley Logan 23:39  Yes, yes. Wendy Valentine 23:41  Yep. So I did. I was like, you know what? How, like you, imagine a drone flying over your head and observing you all day long. How is this woman, this powerful, amazing, gorgeous woman? How does she walk? How does she walk into a room? How does she talk? How does she eat? How does she sleep? How does she, what did she do when she first gets out of bed? Like, is she like, oh my god, I think I'm so grateful I'm alive. Thank you. Thank you. Observe her like and and be her like, literally when you put your shoes on, you put your slippers on or whatever, imagine that those are her shoes and that, and literally act like her, even if someone else is like, why she acting so funny? Just keep doing it.Wendy Valentine 24:26  Yeah, no. I mean, let them, let them wonder why you're acting so funny. Wendy Valentine 24:27  Yes, yes, exactly. Lesley Logan 24:28  They'll just wonder. They get to wonder. And if you want to go talk about it to people like, I thank God for my time in L.A., where I learned, like, all publicity is good. Like, there's no such thing as bad, you know. Let them talk on how weird you are.Wendy Valentine 24:45  (inaudible) Yeah. Finally, T is take action. I think you even say that in your intro about taking action, right? You have to, like, how do you get courage? By taking action. Like if you, if you had a jar, an empty jar, and I have an empty jar, how do you fill up your jar of courage? And how do I fill up mine? We each have to do that on our own. I cannot hand courage. It would be great, right? If like, here, here you go, Lesley, let me give you some courage. You have to do that your own. And you do that by taking action, even if you fall on your face, even if you fall on your face. I didn't know how to even drive an RV. I was like, oh my god. So you figure shit out, right? Like, leap of the net will appear. Like, leap you will figure this stuff out. And that's how you become so resilient and strong. And then it's the tiniest of things I don't know about you, it's like the tiniest of little accomplishments. You're like, that's right. I did that. Like, that's right. I just actually figured out how to dump the dumper on the survey (inaudible) things. I'm like, I did that. (inaudible) So don't forget to celebrate yourself.Lesley Logan 25:53  I believe, all of a sudden, I think like, that is where confidence comes in. Like, people think like confidence comes like, you have to wait for you, once you're confident, then you can do the thing. It's like, no, actually, you get confident by doing the thing. Like, I remember we bought our van, which is not even as big as an RV, we don't need a special license for it. It actually fits in parking spaces. I mean, it's the it's the longest and the tallest of the vehicles that you don't need another license for. And the first time we took it on we took we drove it. I had no problems driving out of the gas station. I had no problems. Like, once we were like, pointing the right direction, like, I'm like, I got this. But one time we were needing to go, and Brad was asleep, and I'm like, I have to hit reverse. There's no rear view mirror. Like, I gotta do this with this tall vehicle. I'm super long. I got a white like, I and it has a camera. It's like, just follow the camera. I'm like, I can't even it's like, this big, just the camera? What, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I hope it beeps. If someone's wrong, I like, what if there's a pole, you know, like one of the, so I like, literally, get out of the car, got out of the car and I do a walk around. I'm like, okay, there's no poles. So the worst thing that happens is that someone or something drives behind me while I'm doing this, and it's supposed to beep, and I'm gonna trust that, and now I come back anytime I want, like, but you I had to, I could not, Brad's telling me you can do this. Like you used to drive jeeps, like, you know what you're doing. Like, he's like, you can none of that confidence and courage being told at me helped me get the confidence, like actually reversing the car and doing it myself.Wendy Valentine 27:32  And sometimes it's the tiniest of things that just gives you a little boost. It's a little reminder that, yes, you can do this and keep going and keep going. Yeah, yeah.Lesley Logan 27:41  Okay, you published a book. Now, can we talk about it? I mean, it says, Women Waking Up: The Midlife Manifesto for Passion, Purpose, and Play. Women waking up. Also, I love the colors. It's like every beautiful shade of pink lipstick, like, yes, yes, yes.Wendy Valentine 28:00  I know, isn't she? It's my little baby. This is actually, like, this is the advanced copy. So it's not even a real copy. But yes, I know. It just went into preorder this week. Lesley Logan 28:10  When is it publishing for reals? Wendy Valentine 28:12  Um, it publishes, it comes out on 9-9. Lesley Logan 28:15  Okay. Wendy Valentine 28:16  9-9 is the time, but and you know what? Before I got into writing books and things like that, I didn't know, I was like, why is everyone why don't they do the preorder? Why? Because I don't get the book. I'll give you $500 worth of reasons (inaudible). Literally, right now, pre-order the book. Because here's the thing, you could if you wanted to, you can literally start making changes today, just with the bonuses that you get with the book. Let me tell you what the bonuses are. Lesley Logan 28:44  Tell us, tell us because this is going to come out before 9-9 so you all can take advantage of this. Wendy Valentine 28:48  Oh yeah. You get the Women Waking Up Playbook. It's like 100 plus pages. You can download them. They are cute, colorful and cute and wonderful. You get the Freedom At Midlife Meditations that go along with the book, just to elevate your mind and help you become your own best friend, right? You get the Map At Your Midlife Dream Workshop, your customizable digital vision board. Thank you very much. I love that thing. Love it. I love it. Love it. What else? A $200 voucher to my Freedom At Midlife Program, and my fave, the Women Waking Up Spotify playlist. Yeah, so that's it. You literally get all of that. Lesley Logan 29:30  Before I even read the book. I can change my life before. And then when I read it, I mean, like, reminding me all these amazing other things. Wendy Valentine 29:37  Yeah, I know. And by the time the book arrives, then you'll get to read the rest of the story and then be like, Yeah, I already did that. Check, check, check. Lesley Logan 29:44  Yeah. So you're just putting all these little drops of confidence into your bucket as you read it, and then you get more, oh, I love this. Wendy, we need more time with you. I need, we need to hang out. I'm not, I'm not kidding. Like, is your RV heading my way before it's too hot? Like, I would just like to know.Wendy Valentine 30:01  You know what? I was gonna go to Nevada, because I'm starting this book tour now, but now I'm going up towards Denver. (inaudible) Maybe when I come back.Lesley Logan 30:07  On the way back, on your way back, you can do it. There's a great book shop called Writer's Block. There's some really cute bookstores in Vegas that are, like, great for doing some sort of tour of some kind, I agree, yes. Or you can go to one of my friends' amazing shops, and they'll, they'll host you. So just let me know, because I'll help make it happen. Because there's women here who need you. Oh, my God, we have to take a brief break, and then we'll get all your links and how we can, like, totally like, stalk you and like, the kids call you, stan you, you know, like stalker fan in one, one moment. Lesley Logan 30:34  All right, Wendy Valentine, favorite place to hang out on the internet, where's the links to pre-order the book, like, where, where's give us everything.Wendy Valentine 30:53  Do all the things. Okay. Instagram, it's got to be my fav. And I do share some cool, fun stuff, right? Lesley Logan 30:57  You do. I love watching your life. You carry a dog with in a bag. Wendy Valentine 30:58  I have some valuable content, with fun stuff too. So yes, Wendy Valentine on Instagram, and probably the best hub is wendyvalentine.com and from there, I know a lot of people have freebies, but my freebies really are awesome. Lesley Logan 31:16  Yeah there's 100 page freebie. I'm just gonna tell you right now, you, above and beyond, lady. Wendy Valentine 31:22  Yeah, yeah. So click, there's a freebies tab. You can even take a superhero quiz on there. That's my fav. There's a book tab on there that is where you can get all of your bonuses when you pre-order the book. And the book is everywhere, Women Waking Up, it's Amazon, Barnes and Noble, Target. It's everywhere. And what else? Yeah, that's, that's it. And then, The Midlife Makeover Show, that's everywhere, where you listen to podcasts, even on YouTube, you can even watch the, you know, the playback of of me interviewing people in an RV.Lesley Logan 31:52  Yeah, yeah. You can listen. You can also watch the Be It Pod, you guys, we're on YouTube as well. You know, it's, I know, it's this fun thing. You do this thing for audio, and then people want the visual. So you we gotta do it all. Wendy Valentine 32:01  Give them the visual. Give them the visual. Lesley Logan 32:01  Okay, I love your acronym. So if you want that to be your Be It Action Item, we can replay that, that is totally fine. But if there's anything else we have to give these women that helps them ditch perfection, take that messy action, what bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps should they take, what else?Wendy Valentine 32:23  I would have to say, this is, I'm adopting this from Deepak Chopra, because I used to go to a lot of his retreats. And there was one thing he said to me, it's in his cute little accent, and he goes, you have to feel your way through life. I was like, what does that mean? I was like, feel my way through life, and we're so used to thinking everything through and probably overthinking, right? But ask yourself, no matter what it is that you're doing or thinking about doing, how does it feel to you? And most importantly, how does it feel to this new person, this new woman that you are creating in your life. How will it feel? Does that align with her? Does she like that? Does she not like it? And just enjoy. I mean, this, you get this tiny little we're like little blip of time on eternity in eternity, right? Like, just live it up in this little space and print in these parentheses. Just live it up and enjoy and stop overthinking. Just feel your way through life. Lesley Logan 33:25  I love that. And I actually really love him. He, I listened to him, remember, Oprah would actually release like, interviews on her like, podcast channel? And I listened to him talk about this time when he would go be a monk, right? Like his like, you know, go for like, I don't know, 30 days or something like that. And he the monk, his like, monk guide, was like, Oh, how was it walking through the jungle? And he's like, well, it hurt my feet. You know, it hurt my feet. And he and the guy goes, oh, well, when your foot is not on the ground, does it hurt? And he goes, No, I don't think so. He's like, well, then think about the other foot, right? Anyways, my husband is gonna love it. I have remembered that. Out of everything he said, I have remembered that so much because whenever my husband's like, oh, my knee hurts, I'm like, maybe you should think about your other knee. And I'm sure he's like.Wendy Valentine 33:26  Yeah or yeah, my arm hurts when I move it, like this, well stop moving it. Lesley Logan 33:35  What is your other arm, like, he like, heard something and I like, hit the other arm, and he's like, what are you do doing? I'm like, distracting you. It's from Dee it's from Deepak, fill the other one.Wendy Valentine 34:29  Refocusing, refocusing. You know? Lesley Logan 34:31  But I do agree. I think, like, you know, I know, I know the listeners, and I one of the reasons I want to have you on the show after I met you, is like, I know the women here will love listening to you, because we all came from this like time of overdoing overthinking. Have to map it all out. Has to has to feel like the right time, but not feel because we're not listening to our feelings, we're thinking our feelings and and so thank you for that. Be it actually, because I think we. Actually have to get into the feeling more, the actual feeling more, not the brain thinking feeling more. Wendy Valentine 35:04  Yeah, exactly. And especially since RVing, like, I'm on the no plan, plan like I don't. I used to plan everything in detail, and if I did not have that plan in place, I would not make a move. Now I'm like, I mean, 90 days is probably as much as I can plan, even though I like to dream and envision and things like that. Planning out too much does not leave room for miracles and spontaneity and the fun stuff. So don't forget to have fun and just enjoy, yeah.Lesley Logan 35:31  Yeah. Uh, I adore you. We'll have to run in, we'll run into each other someday, because I also love to get to we're gonna, we're gonna head down on our Summer Tour into Arizona, so maybe if you're still there, you know it's it's a little more than 90 days. So I'll ask you when it's closer, but you know, Wendy, thank you so much. Thank you for being you. Y'all go listen to her podcast. Go pre-order her book. Let us know. Tag Wendy. Tag the Be It Pod. Let us know what your favorite takeaway was. And by the way, I can't think of another episode you could send to like any woman over 40 right now that she will love. 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Lesley Logan shares seven thought-shifting quotes that stop you in your tracks and invite deeper reflection. Alongside Nancy's inspiring community win and the graduation of eLevate's fifth round, this FYF episode is a celebration of growth, connection, and honoring the moments that shape us.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How celebrating wins shifts focus from fear to progress.The seven quotes that sparked fresh perspective for Lesley.Nancy Lawrence's inspiring trip and community connections through eLevate.Reflections on graduating the fifth round of eLevate.A grounding affirmation to step into tomorrow with openness.Episode References/Links:Seven Quotes - https://www.instagram.com/p/DKR5bSlOeBc/Ep. 400: Gay Hendricks - https://beitpod.com/gayhendricksEp. 53: Launa Jae McClung - https://beitpod.com/launajaeEp. 532: Launa Jae McClung - https://beitpod.com/launajae2Submit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questions If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gLesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQProfitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gFacebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilatesLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  It's Fuck Yeah Friday. Brad Crowell 0:01  Fuck yeah.Lesley Logan 0:02  Get ready for some wins. Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:48  Hi, Happy Friday. Happy Fuck Yeah Friday. It's September 19th. It's episode 579. How did we get here? Holy moly. I am so excited. I actually just got back from my trips to the U.K. and it's just like it's good to be home. We're only home for a little bit, but it's good to be home. And so I just want to say, thanks for being here. Thanks for listening. Thanks for checking in on these episodes. They're short, they're sweet, they're full of things to think about, things you didn't know to think about, wins from other people that are supposed to, that I hope, that I intend, for them to remind you of wins that you're having in your life all the time. Because we're all having wins in our life, right? All the time. Like, yes, there's a lot going on in the stuff that's like, not good. Like, it feels really scary. I really know for a fact that it has to do with our lives or brains, like, looking for things that are not going well to make us like, to make sure we're like, not gonna die, so that we like, go, oh, that's like, I can't, I gotta avoid that. So bad things have, leave more of an impression than good things. But that is why, here at the Be It Pod, we celebrate wins, especially on Fridays. I'd love for you to have a gratitude journal of some kind, but if it's only on Fridays, that's also fine. It's okay. We're not here and we're not after perfection in this room, right? Lesley Logan 1:53  So okay, start off with a little inspiration. This is seven quotes that altered my brain chemistry all over again. So I really appreciated some of these. I'm gonna read them to you. The link, if you want them will be in the show notes. This is from Bruce Lee. Pain will leave you when it's done teaching you. Wow, should I read it again? Pain will leave you when it's done teaching you. And this therapist who posted this wrote, which is why it pays to listen to its messages and not avoid them. So then this is from Joe Hudson. Joy is the matriarch of emotions, and she won't visit you until all of her children have been welcomed. And so the therapist wrote, all the noise in my brain just stopped. All the motions in my heart just felt wildly, gorgeously protected. The third thing, this is from Perry Nickelston, @stopchasingpain. Every time you feel alive, you're being shown your medicine. And the therapist wrote, because flow is more powerful than any drug, and if you felt it, you design the rest of your life, creating space for it to show up again and again. If you need more of that, listen to Episode 400 Gay Hendricks. Okay, number four. This is from Rumi. Our task is not to seek love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it. Oh, that is so deep. So the therapist wrote, because I firmly believe that we don't have a hard time finding love. We have a hard time letting it in. Number five, this is from Vex King. You're telling me that every time you thought you couldn't do you couldn't get through something difficult, you did, and now you're back here thinking you won't succeed. Trust your track record, my friend. Yeah, you can't argue with that. Like, yeah, trust your track record like you have survived every fail. I think Launa, Launa Jae, said that on the first interview we ever had with her, like you've survived every failure you've ever had. So you can do this. You can get through it. The sixth one, this is an unknown quote. Healing happens in circles, not line. You'll return to old places with new eyes. I like that. Healing happens in circles, not lines. You'll return to old places with new eyes. So if your faced, this is what the therapist wrote, if you're facing the same test again that you faced before, it's not that you failed, it's that you've been given another opportunity to succeed, this time with more armor. Number seven, this is from Gary Vaynerchuk, so Gary Vee and he's not always my favorite, but he's not not my favorite, like he always has, he says something direct all the time, right? Do your thing, because I'm telling you, when you're 90, you're going to be sad if you didn't do the thing that's in your stomach. So I agree with that. Like when I was in Brazil, I was like, I should I go doing this thing? And I said, well, when I'm older, and I tell people about my trip to Brazil, I'm gonna regret that I didn't do this thing. Am I gonna say, well, I didn't do that thing, and I had the money to do it, I had the time to do it, so I did it, right? Okay, so that that, my friends, is some things for you to think about. Now, let's share one, I would love to know if you like these things, by the way, just tell me if you hate it. You know, that's also information. I don't know that I'll quit it, but you know, it's always good to have the constructive feedback. Lesley Logan 5:07  Okay, so our win today is from Nancy Lawrence. Happy FYF eve. My win this week is that my eLevate besties Ainsley and Jennifer Mason and my daughter, Miranda, also in eLevate, just booked a trip to San Francisco in September. We will spend five glorious days together, touring the city, and we plan on visiting the Balanced Body factory in Sacramento. Along the way, we plan on reaching out to other eLevate members and visit them as well, if possible, the Beauty of Pilates, the eLevate program and yours, Lesley Logan, far surpasses borders and frontiers for me. Through eLevate, I've gained a new family, a set of sisters I never dreamed I would find, not to mention a beautiful, close relationship with my own daughter, who is now becoming an exceptional Pilates instructor. So her daughter is in eLevate this year. Actually, graduates this week, which is really cool. And it sounds like as I read this, they are in they're in San Francisco. So anyways, ladies, have the best time. I love that city. It's so amazing. I I truly love that people can let other people in and then have their lives changed and shared experiences are the things you can never take away from someone. So it's great to text a friend, it's great to call a friend, but you also got to do the things with friends. You got to do them. And I know it takes money, and I know it takes time, and sometimes you don't have those things, but if the person lives in your in your city, then it can be free to just go for a walk in the park. You've, the shared experiences matter. So ladies, thank you for sharing this, Nancy, especially, because not only are you inspiring us at like dedication and investing yourself as is a win, but also, like so as a win, of just planning a five day trip with your friends, right? And, like going places together, that's a win. Planning a trip is a win. So anyways, thank you for that. Lesley Logan 6:51  Okay, my win. We are wrapping up our fifth round of eLevate. This is the first, it's not the first year we've had two rounds. It's the first year we've graduated two rounds at the same time, and because I did a year where they overlapped, and that just doesn't work with my schedule, but it was, you know, The win was that we tried it and we figured out what we liked and we didn't like about it. And this year, we ran two rounds at the same time. I'm going to do that one more time next year, and then we're, we are using next year to kind of change the program a little bit so that we can accept the people that want to be in it and make sure they get the same they get the best results. But my win in celebrating the closure of eLevate round five and graduating all these amazing people is that, like, they taught me as much as I taught them, I hope. You know, even though I'm the expert, their coming to invest in their Pilates teaching and their education and to become a more amazing teacher, it is so incredibly rewarding for me to sit there and reflect on the questions that they're asking and the things that they're being challenged by, and really understand like, okay, how how can I help them? But how can they help themselves? And this group is just so fabulous and so amazing, and they're from all over the world. I mean, they're, every group is, every every group is. We had people from 20 years old to in their late 60s. We had people who are brand new to teaching to people who are getting close to retirement. And every single one of them added something to to this experience, and the win is just that, like we got to take it all in in a non-overwhelming way. And I want to celebrate my team at this point, because I cannot ever do eLevate alone. I want to celebrate the eLevate grads who supported this, and we had so many eLevate grads help me with the weekends auditing to assist me so that I can provide this information and have a great experience for each of these people and celebrate all the people on my team and also my husband and my family out here. Because people come out to our house, and we often need help, you know. So I had friends who loaned me equipment so that I could do this. So I just, I just think that, like, their graduation isn't much a win for them as it is a win for me and my team, because we get to be part of this. And Nancy's win just really inspired me celebrating this in this moment, because Nancy and Ainsley and Jennifer graduated a year ago, and just seeing how they've connected continuously after they graduated, and what they've done with their training just reminds me of why this exists, and I think we have to celebrate the things we do, even if, though, even if it's really the win is theirs. Because, you know, if you're holding space for people to evolve and change and become more of themselves, like, you got to take care of you, and I so did. My team made sure that I was fueled and fulfilled, and my cup was filled, and I had time off before and after, so that I could really take all this in and be present and to celebrate a win of nine months of putting this together and making it so magical that I want to do it again, and I can't wait, we'll do it in January. So anyways, that's my win. You can have, there's just so many different wins you could have in this world. So thank you for that, ladies. And you can send your wins in to beitpod.com/questions. Lesley Logan 10:08  And finally, your affirmation to repeat with me is, I look forward to tomorrow and the opportunities that await me. I look forward to tomorrow and the opportunities that await me. I look forward to tomorrow and the opportunities that await me. I look forward to that for you, too, and for me. Until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 10:29  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 11:11  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 11:16  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 11:21  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 11:27  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 11:31  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

The Uplift app is here! Try it free for 30 days Picture this: you finally land the promotion, your launch hits six figures, your relationship feels like a rom-com—and then boom. Out of nowhere, you start unraveling. You forget the meeting, pick a fight over the dishes, or come down with a mystery illness right before the big presentation.   Sound familiar? You're not alone in this. You're not broken. You're not failing. You're just bumping up against something called the Upper Limit Problem—a sneaky little mindset trap that psychologist Gay Hendricks describes as your brain's way of keeping you "safe" in your comfort zone.   Here's the truth: your mind isn't trying to sabotage you—it's just scared of expansion. It thinks success is risky. But we're not here to play small anymore. It takes courage to step into the unknown, and we have that courage within us.   Today, we're breaking through that invisible ceiling. We're talking about how to stop self-sabotage, stretch your capacity for joy, and step boldly into the life God's calling you to—without shrinking back.   Because the answer isn't hustling harder, it's healing deeper. It's growing bigger from the inside out.   Listen in to learn more:  (01:16) - The Real Reason Smart, Successful Women Self-Destruct (02:44) - The Upper Limit Problem: Why Your Brain Sabotages Your Success (05:18) -Identity vs. Willpower: The Key Shift That Changes Everything (07:36) - The Upper Limit Breakthrough System to Stop Self-Sabotage (13:56) - The 20-Second Courage Rule That Rewires Fear Into Momentum WATCH ALLI  ON YOUTUBE     Links to great things we discussed:    Alli's Fun Recommendation - Discovery Cove Join The Coach School - https://www.thecoachschool.com/    I hope you loved this episode!

Your health isn't a number on the scale—it's how you treat your body every single day. In this recap, Lesley and Brad dive into the wisdom of Amber Romaniuk, an emotional eating, digestive, and hormone expert with over a decade of experience and host of The No Sugarcoating Podcast. This conversation challenges the myths we've been sold about health and inspires you to listen to your body, trust your instincts, and finally put yourself first.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co .And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe.In this episode you will learn about:Why Pilates footwork is a full-body exercise, not just about the feetWhy BMI is outdated and misleading as a health measure.Why we get stuck in suffering because it feels familiar.Daily habits that support hormones and digestion.How to advocate for yourself with providers.Episode References/Links:Follow Amber on IG https://www.instagram.com/amberromaniukAmber Romaniuk Website - https://www.amberapproved.caNo Sugarcoating Podcast - https://amberapproved.ca/podcastP.O.T. Chicago 2025 - https://pilates.com/pilates-on-tour-chicagolandCambodia October 2025 Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comWinter Tour Waitlist - https://opc.me/eventsPilates Expo Journal - https://www.pilatesjournalexpo.com/los-angeles-pilates-expoThe Aligner from Balanced Body - https://opc.me/alignerSubmit your wins or questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsThe Aligner from Balanced Body - https://opc.me/aligner Camp Shame - https://beitpod.com/campshameEp. 400: Gay Hendricks - https://beitpod.com/gayhendricksEp. 177: Lindsay Moore - https://beitpod.com/ep177Ep. 39: Jessica Valant - https://beitpod.com/ep39Ep. 41: Dr. Kelly Bender - https://beitpod.com/ep41Ep. 183: Dr. Kelly Bender - https://beitpod.com/ep183FemGevity - https://beitpod.com/femgevityIf you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! DEALS! https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentCheck out all our Preferred Vendors & Special Deals from Clair Sparrow, Sensate, Lyfefuel BeeKeeper's Naturals, Sauna Space, HigherDose, AG1 and ToeSox https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/memberships/perks/#equipmentBe in the know with all the workshops at OPC https://workshops.onlinepilatesclasses.com/lp-workshop-waitlistBe It Till You See It Podcast Survey https://pod.lesleylogan.co/be-it-podcasts-surveyBe a part of Lesley's Pilates Mentorship https://lesleylogan.co/elevate/FREE Ditching Busy Webinar https://ditchingbusy.com/Resources:Watch the Be It Till You See It podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gLesley Logan website https://lesleylogan.co/Be It Till You See It Podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan https://onlinepilatesclasses.com/Online Pilates Classes by Lesley Logan on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjogqXLnfyhS5VlU4rdzlnQProfitable Pilates https://profitablepilates.com/about/Follow Us on Social Media:Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lesley.logan/The Be It Till You See It Podcast YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq08HES7xLMvVa3Fy5DR8-gFacebook https://www.facebook.com/llogan.pilatesLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-logan/The OPC YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@OnlinePilatesClasses Episode Transcript:Lesley Logan 0:00  If you're feeling overwhelmed by what's going on in the world, because you've got stuff in your own life going on, it is your number one priority to heal yourself, to go figure out, like, what people, what services, what you need to heal so that you can go out there in the world and be this amazing, evolved human who helps and supports and inspires other people. Brad Crowell 0:19  Yeah. Lesley Logan 0:20  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:59  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the beneficial convo I had with Amber Romaniuk in our last episode. Nailed it. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause this now. Go back and listen to that one, and then come back and join us. You guys, I also think last week, I don't even think I said Jon's last name correctly, like I, I gotta you guys.Brad Crowell 1:22  You got close. It's okay. We. Lesley Logan 1:23  Okay, I think it's really important you know, I went to speech therapy, okay, as a child, I had a stutter. I had a lisp. I do think I'm slightly dyslexic. I, I'm doing the best I can here. Brad Crowell 1:37  You're doing great, babe. Lesley Logan 1:39  Today is September 18th 2025 and it's World Water Monitoring Day. And I got some fucking neighbors I'm monitoring. Anyways, every year, around 150 countries come together to honor World Water Monitoring Day. It just rolls off the tongue, don't you think? Brad Crowell 1:55  Yeah. Lesley Logan 1:55  Water, as we've been learning since a young age, is an extremely important source for keeping all living beings alive and well, you can go without food for a long period of time, about three weeks, but your body will most likely start showing signs of shutting down if you haven't had enough water intake for even a short period of time, about three to four days. I can't even go fucking three to four hours without some water. So I just so you know, if I'm ever kidnapped and tortured, I don't think I'm gonna make it three days. I'm gonna I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna drown. I'm gonna die. The human body is, after all, made of 60 to 70% of water. We're like cucumbers, everyone. Water is so important. I have, are cucumbers more than 60% water? Brad, will look it up. Water is so important that much of the space exploration budget is solely dedicated to finding water sources on other planets. A huge chunk of the earth's ecosystem.Brad Crowell 2:47  Cucumbers are 90, 95 to 96% water.Lesley Logan 2:50  Okay, so we're not like a cucumber, but we should act like we're, be it till you see it as a cucumber, guys. A huge chunk of the earth's ecosystem is also made of water, with countless organisms dependent on it, yet things like water pollution and climate change are threatening our water sources, which is why it has become more important now than ever to regularly monitor the water bodies around us. I kept interrupting myself, but I just want to say, like I did do a whole thing, you can drown yourself if you drink too much water, you can it's called hyponatremia,neutramia, nitremia, hyponatremia, nutremia, anyways, it's the opposite, and so.Brad Crowell 3:26  Hyponatremia.Lesley Logan 3:28  Natremia. So here's the deal. You do want to. Brad Crowell 3:35  The sodium levels in your blood become abnormally low because you're (inaudible). Lesley Logan 3:36  If you look at, like, cyclists or marathon runners, they're not just drinking water. They have electrolytes in it, you A.K.A., there's salt. So make sure that you be it till you see it like a cucumber, but put some salt in your water. Okay? Also, you know, while we're at it, research the companies who are putting salt in your water, because some of them are dick heads. Some of them don't believe in science, which is pretty fucked up, considering that they're fucking scientific. They're supposed to be scientific in what they're doing. Brad Crowell 3:59  I think we can call one out. Lesley Logan 4:01  Yeah, LMNT apparently supports MAHA. And I'm pretty pissed off.Brad Crowell 4:04  The two founders are, like, lockstep with RFK doing, you know, like de-science-sizing our science.Lesley Logan 4:14  So anyways, I'm pissed off because I really liked it. However, the great thing about being cookied and like algorithms following us is, I use Brad's phone several times to research different companies that are not LMNT, that don't have stevia or sugar, and not only do we come up with a few because of, like, a chat bot of Brad's, but now he's getting ads for some and I think one of the ads you got is brilliant, and I'm really excited about it, so. Brad Crowell 4:38  Yeah, it's a shame, because I really like their product. It was actually really great. Lesley Logan 4:38  It was really great, but, you know what. Brad Crowell 4:38  It still is great. I disagree with their. Lesley Logan 4:38  Clearly, since they don't believe in science. Brad Crowell 4:39  Well, I disagree with their opinions. Lesley Logan 4:43  But also, since they don't believe in science, there's probably a better scientific electrolytes out there. So we're gonna find those, and once we do, you'll know, because I'll just make us an affiliate, and we'll shout it up from the rooftops. But my fucking goodness, protect your water. Make sure, like, look, make sure that even if you live in a place where the water is abundant, we were, I could not believe how much water is in Idaho. I could not believe the amount of water in Idaho. I'm like, no one. California is like, just wasting water. There's no water. Like, when you live in the southwest, when you live on the west, like it's not exactly like, abundant. Brad Crowell 5:20  It's a desert, hello. Lesley Logan 5:21  Yes, I know. So anyways, it happened in Vegas. We found out that, like, when we use water out of our faucets and our sinks and our showers, like 98% of that, or something like that, is actually able to be reused, like cleaned and all that stuff. So, like, that's really nice.Brad Crowell 5:35  I don't know what the percentage is, but. Lesley Logan 5:36  It was over, it was over 90. Brad Crowell 5:37  Yeah, they're very intense in Nevada about water conservation and reuse. Lesley Logan 5:42  We're doing a great job in Nevada, because, we have. Brad Crowell 5:44  Specifically in Las Vegas. Lesley Logan 5:46  Yes, because our population has increased ridiculous amounts, and we've decreased our water consumption. And you know, the fact that people are fighting for their fucking green lawns pisses me off, because unless you live where it rains all the time, then by all means, like, lawn away, but like, if you don't, you know, lawns don't even capture water. Like, that was the shocking news to me. Brad Crowell 6:08  No. The only thing that grass does is look pretty. Lesley Logan 6:10  Looks pretty. Brad Crowell 6:12  That's it.Lesley Logan 6:12  So clearly, I'm against golf courses. But look, if water is natural where you are, and it rains and it can keep grasses green, then have them. But why are we doing the grass in the desert? It piss, like, those kinds of things are stupid. They don't make sense. It, just going with our you know, talk about believe in science. Anyways, at Be It Till You See It, we believe in science. We just got back from the U.K., literally two days ago. We are home, are catching up on work. We're filming stuff for OPC. We're recording stuff for this podcast, and then we're going to, this is our tour, we're gonna go to Chicago. I will be at POT for balanced body in Chicagoland in Burr Ridge. We're gonna celebrate our anniversary together, 10 fucking years married. Holy moly, can you believe that?Brad Crowell 7:00  That's insane. Lesley Logan 7:01  Yeah. I was like, are you still here? Brad Crowell 7:03  Yeah. Lesley Logan 7:04  So, 10 years married, and then from Chicago, we're gonna go to Cambodia, and we're gonna run our retreat in Cambodia. I'm so excited for the epic humans we're gonna hang out with in Cambodia. It's gonna be so (inaudible) and then we're gonna head up to Singapore on our way home. I'm teaching a workshop there. Go to crowsnestretreats.com for our retreat info. Brad Crowell 7:21  Yeah and if you're if this one is too close, because it literally is a couple weeks away, no problem. Get on the waitlist. Lesley Logan 7:24  You're not spontaneous, but they can't be spontaneous. Brad Crowell 7:31  No, you're allowed to be spontaneous. I get it. But also, like doing an international trip within a month can be challenging. So I understand that, I recognize that, if.Lesley Logan 7:39  My mom's friend did it in two weeks. Brad Crowell 7:41  She did. You're 100% right and you should do that, too. Drop your life and come join us. If that's not an option, then come join us next year, we are going to be doing this again in October of next year. We'll be announcing all the dates in January. So go to the website. Go to the website and get yourself on the waitlist. Go to crowsnestretreats.com.Lesley Logan 8:00  Then, on you on our way home, go to Singapore, and then we come home, we hang out for a month. Brad's parents are finally visiting. It's only been 10 years. Don't throw them under the bus. They're lovely people. Anyways, we love them very much. And I just, I just love this 10-year vacation that we're on. Every 10 years. But anyways, we'll announce the winter tour deets on October 1st, actually. So the winter tour is going to release before you leave for for Chicago. So you want to be on the waitlist. opc.me/events to make sure you get that link. Also, 2026 is literally around the corner. We come home from winter tour. I teach at a Pilates Expo Journal. Brad Crowell 8:35  That's in L.A. Lesley Logan 8:36  That's in L.A. adjacent. I just as an Angeleno, I have a really hard time saying that something is in L.A. when it's not in L.A., because I just feel like it's not in L.A., and then we'll be in Poland. So if you are wanting information about that, check out my Instagram account. I'll put that stuff up there. We'll get the links up here in an upcoming episode. Before we get into Amber's amazing takeaways, what is our question this time, babe?Brad Crowell 9:00  etaine.pilates, yeah, is asking legs in parallel, hip distance apart, legs together, zipped midline, either or both? And this is. Lesley Logan 9:01  A footwork question. Brad Crowell 9:05  A footwork question.Lesley Logan 9:06  We got so many footwork questions. I was like, I'll just and some of them are longer than I can type a character count of Instagram. So here is the deal, footwork from Joe, if you're doing it Joe's way, on the Reformer or on the Wunda Chair or on a Cadillac or anywhere footwork is, you start with heels together, toes slightly apart. Brad Crowell 9:33  But if you're doing it Brad's way, you just put your feet completely 180. Lesley Logan 9:37  Yeah, he does his own way. Brad Crowell 9:38  But don't do that. Lesley Logan 9:39  So don't do that. So slightly apart. Like, people like to say Pilates V Pilates V is not first position. So don't get them confused. There's actually no. Brad Crowell 9:39  First position, meaning dancing. Lesley Logan 9:40  Dancing. It's a little that's a little too externally rotated, so it's a slightly apart. The other thing is, it's like, actually your neutral position of your femurs, like, when the body is in neutral, your femurs are slightly turned out, like, that's what footwork toes is. So that's heels, the other toes apart. Then when you move to arches and heels, ideally, you are zipped, zipping the midline together. However, bodies are interesting shapes. We have some people have bony ankles. Some people have large calves. You know, some people have thigh abundance. Some people are Knock Kneed. So here's the deal, if you cannot zip your legs together and get everything to touch so ankles, you know, knees, thighs, what you can do is. Brad Crowell 10:29  Oh, the zip starts all the way down there? Lesley Logan 10:31  Oh, ideally. Doesn't your zipper start at the bottom of your coat? Brad Crowell 10:34  I don't know, whenever I hear that term, I think it's like zipping from my core, so like from my my belly button up, zipping my ribs and, you know, or. Lesley Logan 10:43  Yeah, you could think that, it's fine. Brad Crowell 10:45  But I didn't think about it all the way down to the heels.Lesley Logan 10:48  Sorry, from the bottom, now we're here, babe. So gotta start from the from the feet up. We are talking about footwork, yes, but if you can't, because of your body shape, Balanced Body makes a really cool thing called the Aligner. You can put that between your ankles or your thighs. They have two different ways you can use it. It's really, really cool. We have an affiliate link for that. We'll toss that in the notes, and then, if that's but if that's more than you need because it is a little bit bigger, just roll up a towel, um, or get a little squishy ball and or get a yoga block. Or, like, get a get the dog's toy, put it between your the place in your body that has a hard time, like that's touching, like you don't like when your ankles touch, or your knees knock, put up between something close the chain, so your inner thighs activate. It's really, really important that the inner thighs activate so that you're not just using quads in your footwork. We want the inner thighs, want the hamstrings, want the glutes to work. So it's a full body exercise. So it's all the things you asked Heather, all of them. Brad Crowell 11:41  It's all the things. Lesley Logan 11:42  If you want to dive in deep to footwork, one, I think I'm teaching a workshop. I taught a workshop in the U.K., so that's passed, missed out on it, but we have free tutorials on our YouTube channel, on any place you can do footwork, and it's in our flashcards, and you'll can hear why I'm obsessed with it. If you have a question, go to you can text us at 310-905-5534, we're plus one country code, I guess, so, +1-310-905-5534, or go to beitpod.com/questions, you can submit a win or a question. I want to shout your wins out. That's what makes a Friday episode fun, is your wins. Brad Crowell 12:17  That is what does it and you should definitely be doing that, so. Lesley Logan 12:20  You should be. If you're not doing that, you're doing life wrong.Brad Crowell 12:22  I mean, y'all, we should have so many wins that we don't, we have to pick between them. So, let's go, step it up. Go to beitpod.com/questions.Lesley Logan 12:30  Here's what people, my win's not very big or I don't want to take up space. You want to know something? That's what the fucking patriarch wants. They want you to not take up space. Because if you're quiet and you're humble and you think your win isn't anything, then you then they get have an easier time controlling you in your life. So take up space. Celebrate your wins. You're inspiring other people to see what they can do, and it makes the world a fucking better place to live in. Ladies, take up some fucking space.Brad Crowell 12:54  Take up some space. Lesley Logan 12:55  Share a win. Brad Crowell 12:59  By the way, the link for the Aligner is opc.me/aligner. Lesley Logan 13:04  Aligner. Good luck spelling that there is a silent G. Brad Crowell 13:07  A-L-I-G-N-E-R Lesley Logan 13:08  What's that comedian who, like, does a whole thing on like this, saying the silent letters in the U.S. and like, the English language, we call it aligner.Brad Crowell 13:15  Oh yeah. I don't know the name of the comedian, but that's hilarious. Yeah, go check it out. All right. Stick around. We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 13:22  Welcome back. Let's talk about Amber Romaniuk. Amber is an emotional, eating, digestive and hormone expert with over 11 years of experience and the host of The No Sugar Coating Podcast, which boasts 1.9 million downloads over 500 episodes and is listened to in over 88 countries. Her mission is to help guide women worldwide towards food and body freedom, a state where they understand and address their physical, hormonal, digestive and blood sugar issues, alongside the habits and mindsets that hinder their healing. Her backstory is very involved with her mission today. Her passion for helping women stem from her own profound struggles, which began at a very young age, and some of it was learned from family. Some of it was due to bullying. She shares a little bit about that on the interview. So if you haven't had a chance to go listen to that interview, definitely go, you know, hit pause. Go back. Listen to that. It's worth a listen. When she was a child, she developed an unconscious emotional connection to food, and it revolved around sugar and processed foods, and it led to full, full blown food addiction. And that's part of the story she shares. It's a bit shocking. And it's also, you know, I actually think it's something that is very relatable. And it's not just women who deal with this stuff, you know as well, food can become an addiction, just like cigarettes, like drugs, like whatever working out can be an addiction. For her, food became an addiction.Lesley Logan 14:47  Yeah, I just it's really interesting, because I, while we were on our tour, I listened to like, every podcast I could, and I actually ran out of episodes to listen to. I can tell we're on tour like I ran out of episodes I found this podcast. Podcast was about a camp that, like, heavyweights was based off of actually. And podcast series is really, really cool. It's called Camp Shame. You want to listen to it. And they did a really great job explaining, like, how, just how, historically, then this became associated with, like, healthiness and how, especially in the US, but in most Western cultures, we have really fucked people up by, including our medical world, by thinking that you just have to lose weight and that has created these food addictions and these other and these other ways of eating disorder addictions. And I think it's just.Brad Crowell 15:41  I think losing weight certainly can be the solution, but how could it possibly always be the solution?Lesley Logan 15:47  Oh, and that's exactly it. Because, like a lot of people who do have, do have a little bit more weight on them, doctors are always like, oh, go lose some weight first, before they even, like, listen to their fucking symptoms. And so then their issues get worse. Anyways, all this to say, I really enjoy that I really like when people are willing to share their stories of healing and then how they're going, because I think it's so important to normalize these conversations so that people can realize that, first of all, your weight often has zero to do with width of your health. And we know that now we have a lot of more information now than we did before, because, actually, of science and people studying these things and. Brad Crowell 16:09  Can you explain that? Because that's not intuitive. How is it that your weight could be? I mean, your weight has to have something.Lesley Logan 16:31  So first of all, everybody thinks a BMI is like your insurance companies will use your BMI to determine if you're healthy or not, and what your insurance rate should be. Your BMI was actually never supposed to be used for what health is? The scientists who did it was for another reason, and it was only sitting on men. And BMI means your height to weight ratio. Well, a bodybuilder could have what would be considered obese BMI because the weight. Brad Crowell 16:53  They could be short and huge, but they're intentionally huge. Lesley Logan 16:56  But their their muscles and their body so their body fat percentage is quite low, right, versus somebody who's the same height and maybe even the same weight, but doesn't work out, right? But, but by the way, we're we're acting like that guy with muscles is healthier than the guy without muscles, because we have been conditioned to think that that is healthy. That person might be on steroids, they might be under eating, they might. Brad Crowell 17:19  They could be starving themselves (inaudible) Lesley Logan 17:21  Correct. Right. And then the other thing is, is that, like, you're, a lot of our health conditions are actually genetic versus, you know, a lot of things, and we are, different races have different body shapes. And so we're saying, oh, if you're not heroin chic, then there's something wrong with you. Because the best way to describe the way that the 90s thought health and wealth and beauty was like fucking stick pencil thin. Those girls were eating cotton balls soaked in orange juice. Literally, you can go watch documentaries on this like that is how they were staying the shape that they needed to be to make money. And then we're all chasing this dream when our bodies actually don't want to look like that. They don't. That's not healthy. And so, at any rate, health, signs of good health, your weight is like, truly not one of them, unless you are on the very, very, very ends of a spectrum, but in the middle, there is a wide range of health that could be and your outside appearance is rarely able to to significant like, the indicator of what your health is, we have to look at your sugar levels. We have to look at like, do you digest sugar? Are you digesting your food? Are you absorbing nutrition? Like your microbiome is a better signifier of health than your weight on the scale. And so it's really fascinating, because we have a humongous population of women and men who are raised to think that I just have to be thinner. And so there's a lot of people, a lot of people, a lo t of people listen to this podcast who probably struggle with, I was at the gym today, right? And this woman, she is so, so sweet. She looks so cute. And she's like, yeah. She's like, I'm carrying 30 pounds more because of an injury. And like, the fact that she felt like she had to tell me that because she's a Pilates instructor. And so she's like, yeah, I was like. I was like, who cares? Like, I listen to her. Who cares. You are having the most fun. You're rocking your Pilates practice. Who cares? So the point is, all this to say, like, we, this country is fucked up, in how it thinks of health, and so people are worrying about what the scale says, versus, like, going to their doctor, getting their lungs listened to getting their heart listened to getting their blood checked, and then researching, like, what is, what's in range, hormones, hormone health, that kind of stuff. But like, we're, we're so obsessed with what the scale says, versus like, what does your blood fucking say? What does your blood say? So anyways, back to Amber. She said, we get comfortable in our comfort zones of suffering. And I think this is really, really important. A lot of us are afraid of being on the other side of whatever our addiction or whatever our thing is, because suffering has become comfortable. We know it. We know what to expect. We like certainty. We'll hear more about certainty in a couple weeks with Brad Bizjack. But like we like knowing these things, but we have to we, our comfort zone of suffering is not uncomfortable enough for us to want to get out of it. She said, we continue to do what is familiar because it feels safe to your brain. You can listen to Gay Hendricks or read his book about like your brain, like wanting to be in this comfort zone we will sabotage right? She described being terrified of the unknown. This is, I am familiar with this, like you're so terrified of, like the unknown, like I'll just stick in my suffering, because the other side, the thing that I want, is actually scary, because I don't know what's it going to feel like and but she said the suffering became bigger than the fear of change, and that is so key. Like, sometimes we just have to figure out what that's going to be for us. And she said your healing is one of the most valuable journeys you can choose, is going to help you grow and evolve in ways you can't even imagine. And I think this is so important, like, whatever is going on in your life, if you're feeling overwhelmed by what's going on in the world, because you've got stuff in your own life going on, it is your number one priority to heal yourself, to go figure out, like, who, what, what people, what services, what you need to heal so that you can go out there in the world and be this amazing, evolved human who helps and supports and inspires other people. Right? Anyways, so many good things in there. What did you love?Brad Crowell 21:32  I was digging where she's talking about, your actual body is always trying to heal. Doesn't matter where you are in your life cycle. And what she was talking about, what I what she was referencing there was the different, like hormonal stages of a female body, specifically with the perimenopause, menopause, you know, post she said, however, we have to look at what is in the way of healing. And it's not, not even just those stages, but it, you know, your mindset is so much a part of this healing, right? And whether you're seeing doctors or not, that's what we can contribute to the fix that we may be getting from an expert, right? But our mindset and our habits, the behaviors that we have. She said, she also, you know, when it comes to age and certain ages, right? I know from just being around people who are older than me, they have this idea that they're set in their ways, and there's nothing that can be done about it. And that's not true, you know, like, it doesn't matter when how old you are, you can start to create change and the internal, the way that we internalize, the way that we think about ourselves and think about the change and the hope and the shift in our health, will contribute significantly to whatever actual like, you know, whether we change our sleep or our food or our workout or our, you know, supplements or whatever, any of that, but the way we think about it is going to change, is going to support that or it's going to make it effective, right?Lesley Logan 23:15  Well, we talked about those habits, right? We have a whole habit series coming out, by the way, in December, so I'll dive in more there. But like, if you shame yourself after doing making a mistake in a change you want to make, your main mindset will keep you from making those changes again. Like you will not be able to do it even though your body wants to do it, even though you say you want to do it, like how your mindset is absolutely a huge part of making the changes and allowing your body to heal. Because your body wants to do it, but you're, you're getting in the way.Brad Crowell 23:43  Yeah and also your mindset of your provider, right? The, it's hard to change a provider, but I, you know the response that you mentioned earlier, oh, just go lose some weight first, and then we will do X, Y and Z, you know, like, that's some bullshit. That's such a cop out. Lesley Logan 24:00  Find a new provider. Brad Crowell 24:01  Yeah, and like, if you're getting told something like that, you are, you absolutely can go get a second opinion. Lesley Logan 24:08  You can also tell them, no, I've already have, like, there, in one of the FYFs, I think I actually brought up, like, things that you can say to a doctor. But like, and unfortunately, people who are in what's considered a larger body, you might have to say to the doctor, but I want you to know, come into this I've already lost X amount of weight. I have had this pain for this long. Unfortunately, no matter who you are, even if weight is not a thing, you're gonna have to say how long things happen. Because some people, some doctors, do not take some symptoms seriously until it's been a significant amount of time. Brad Crowell 24:45  Well, let's, let's, let's think about this here, like from the perspective of a doctor, it's a puzzle, okay, you are a puzzle to them, and they like figuring out puzzles, and they've educated themselves in a crazy way over many, many, many, many years to understand all the variables that are involved so, but, they're still human, right? And they're going to do what brains do, which is the fastest, easiest way to find the answer, the solution. That's what their brain is doing for them. So they're gonna look at it and go, well, step one is, is it fucking plugged in, right? Just like any of the stupid customer service calls. So what are they gonna say? They say, well, you're clearly overweight, so go lose some weight, right? And that is the easy answer for them, but there's more to it than just that. But they can say, well, this is definitely something that has to be solved anyway, and it could be a very likely contributor to whatever the problem is that you have. So what are they going to do? They're going to go to the easiest answer first. Now there could be far more to it, or if you can give them a clearer picture of the puzzle, you can already say, this is how long this thing's been happening. I have already lost X amount of weight. I have already done these other things. I have already changed my eating, my sleeping, my this. Yet the problem persists. Now they have a clear picture of the puzzle, and they can go, hmm, the easy is it plugged in response doesn't work here. What's the next thing on my mental checklist of things? Right? So it's really important to be communicative. It's important to be paying attention to yourself. It's important to have those numbers and statistics and like, you know, things that you've already tried, and to share that information, because otherwise you're gonna get the is it plugged in answer.Lesley Logan 24:53  And they don't, and to their to also like to be on their a little on their side, they are, they have to see a ridiculous number of patients in a day. They have, they're given six minutes with you, and so the more you can have your thoughts organized. Listen to the episode with Lindsay Moore and also Jessica Valant on, like, advocating for yourself in healthcare, but like, have these notes, because it will help your healing process if that's the route you have to go. And if you're going a route of a therapist or something like that, find one like it might take a few different people. And I know that's annoying. I know like, when you're when you are suffering and you're finally ready to make a change, it can be fucking annoying to start over week after week after week with a different therapist until you find what you like. But you have, you owe it to your future self and you owe it to the people that you're going to change their life by being yourself. Brad Crowell 27:05  Yeah, I mean, think about, think about it from the perspective of of a Pilates teacher or a fitness coach or whatever, like, if you are in the Pilates world, what we always coach our clients through Agency. We say not, you are not for everyone, and that's okay. The therapists are for everyone, and that's also okay. You're not going to connect the same way with this, with every person, but there is going to be one or more than one person that you're gonna be like, oh my gosh, I totally vibe with this person, and you'll be willing to connect with them in a in a better way. Doctors are the same way, right, like, so anyway, the Lindsay Moore episode is episode 177 and who else did you say? Lesley Logan 27:47  Jessica Valant, her first episode. Brad Crowell 27:49  Jessica Valant is episode 39 so go back and check out those interviews that both will be very helpful and supportive for this conversation as well. And yeah, the I think that you know, to sum this all up, if you're frustrated with the attention or lack of attention that you're getting from your provider, you are allowed to advocate for yourself. No one is going to advocate for you unless you hire someone to advocate for you or engage you know someone advocate for you, or maybe you have a family member who's willing to to play that role, but you can advocate for you, and it's also okay to go get a second opinion and to dig deeper. You know, you're allowed to do that, you know? So she, she said, we need to recondition ourselves, to normalize investing in our health. And what she's specifically talking about in that is that she's Canadian. They do have health care as a country. She said just because we get health care doesn't always mean that it's great health care, right? When she started having this, these deeper conversations with her doctors, she started cutting out some of the middleman and paying to go directly to the experts. Right, because she said, well, I couldn't get the referral, but I disagreed with them. I went to someone else. And just because the way the system was structured, it wasn't an option. So for me, I had to go straight to the expert, and that meant I had to pay out of pocket, and that sucks, because I did have access. I do have access to a healthcare system, however, that wasn't, that wasn't solving my problem and and I think in the United States, the irony is, we still have to fucking pay for things anyway, because our insurance system is so backwards. So, you know, I would say, you know, I agree with her that we need to recondition ourselves to normalize investing in our health, and that's that's exactly why we encourage people to go work out, too.Lesley Logan 29:44  And then, you know, call your fucking Congress person and tell them how much you would invest. Tell them what you want to see changes are. They work for us. And every country that you have some sort of voting system, the person who represents you is supposed to work for you whether you voted for them or not. So like be something in there, like be in their fucking bonnet about it, but first you have to heal yourself. And that does, unfortunately, there's like a statistic that it's like a ridiculous amount of money that women will spend on their health care versus men, because we are often getting second opinions because, unfortunately, they didn't study women's bodies. Brad Crowell 30:19  I think women also live longer than men. So maybe there's something to it.Lesley Logan 30:29  Especially if you don't get married. There's, like, a lot, so there's a fuck ton of study. Brad Crowell 30:53  Wait a minute. Lesley Logan 30:27  Yes. So it says if you're basically, the science is, if you're a man, you need to be married because you'll live longer, but if you're a woman, you should not get married because you will live longer. And so it's just, like, really interesting thing that, like women actually provided we still get to have our credit cards and our bank accounts and vote. You know, we will live longer if we just live by our like, live on our own or live in a commune with each other. Brad Crowell 30:53  Well, there's that. Lesley Logan 30:54  Sorry, babe. I love you, but.Brad Crowell 30:56  I love me too, so, you know. Lesley Logan 30:57  Okay. Brad Crowell 30:58  All right, stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to dig into those action items. Those Be It Action Items that we got from Amber Romaniuk. Brad Crowell 31:05  All right, so let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your conver conversation with Amber? She said, hey, the best habits for hormone and digestive health, start getting into a mindful eating practice and start having good sleep hygiene. And what she was specifically saying about mindful eating practice, this is really interesting, y'all, because we're glued to our phones, I'm just as guilty of this, like 100%, she said, for eating, put down your phone, sit and eat your food mindfully. Why? What does she actually mean by that? She said, Well, there's two elements to eating, and we're distracting ourselves from one of the two elements when we're not focused on eating. What are those two elements? There's the physical state of eating, and then there's the emotional state of eating. And if we are not paying attention to our food, there's very high chance that emotionally we won't even realize it, and we will just keep eating, because we don't emotionally think, feel, you know, that we're full, right? And also, there's still that, that element with the physical you know, you're not necessarily paying attention to your stomach, you're paying attention to your phone, right? So you could just keep going past the point of being full. So I just thought it was really interesting. It's not the first time we've heard this. In fact, I think Dr, Kelly Bender also mentioned eating and putting your phone away and just focusing on eating. Can't remember which interview that was, because she's been with us for a few, but. Lesley Logan 32:39  Yes, but you can go listen to them. Brad Crowell 32:41  Yeah, she, she was in episode 41 and 183 Dr. Kelly Bender, so we'll put those links in the show notes. But she, she mentions the same thing, like put your phone away while you're eating. And I never thought about it as as a mindful practice, but disconnect from that technology. And she said, same goes with sleeping. And of course, we've talked about this before.Lesley Logan 33:00  Mindfully sleep, put your phone away. You can actually sleep.Brad Crowell 33:04  Yeah, not mindfully sleeping, but like preparing for sleep, like actually preparing for sleep. And I know you went through a couple different extreme things where you would leave your phone in the other side of the house.Lesley Logan 33:16  I know I still want to do that. I just haven't figured out how to do that. Brad Crowell 33:21  It's tough too, because their phones are our alarms all the things. But like, you know, disconnecting from tech, she said 15, 30 minutes before going to bed, you know. And then also, she said sleeping before 11pm especially for women, because optimal hormone balance occurs between 11pm and 1am I don't actually know how that statistic comes to be, I think every body is a little bit different. And so, you know, we all have our own sleeping patterns. So I think it's important to understand your own circadian rhythm, a tool that we use to help us find ours, has been a ring like the ring that monitors your heart, your health, your blood, you know, your blood, all that kind of stuff, your blood pressure, I mean. And then it actually can identify your natural rhythm.Lesley Logan 34:05  We'll have to, we'll have to find out where that is, because I do, there is information that our liver also does its own, like clean, like cleaning out thing around 2 to 4 a.m. and so that's why a lot of people get up at two in the morning having to pee. Like, it's actually, like, there are, there are some things that the body just does at a certain time. Brad Crowell 34:21  But, but also, like 2 to 4 a.m. for me is not 2 to 4 a.m. for somebody else. So that's what doesn't make sense like, because the time zones like so, so I think, I think there's a, there's a there's like a guideline there. But, you know, I think it's obviously different forever. We live in different parts of the world.Lesley Logan 34:37  Luckily, for you, Brad, you can be a lark, you can be up, or whatever it's called, owl, you you don't your hormones will be fine. If you stay up past 11, it's okay.Brad Crowell 34:44  High level, she said, get your hormones tested. So.Lesley Logan 34:47  Get them tested multiple times, multiple times, because they they do change throughout the day, but also throughout your cycle. And also find a doctor, if not working with Amber or FemGevity, find fucking someone who actually gives a fuck. Because it took me, I knew I did not have testosterone for years, and I had it took me forever to find someone who would fucking listen to me, and so it is annoying, and you gotta advocate for yourself, but you need to find someone who actually gives any fucks about hormones. So whatever it is, find the person you're and yes, it takes time. I know you're busy. Brad Crowell 35:11  I think we could talk about FemGevity here. I mean, you probably heard the commercials that we throw in occasionally here. But you know, Lesley has been working with a female telehealth medicine company that is only in the United States. Sorry, Canadians, but.Lesley Logan 35:33  That's why they have Amber and anyone can well, you can be outside the States, outside of Canada, and work with Amber as well, of course, I guess, but yeah, you gotta find people. So if so cannot talk to Amber, contact FemGevity, but contact interview people who and see if they fit your vibe. Do they understand what your goals are? Like are, does it make sense them? If they're not, it's okay. It's not like, oh my god, they're an asshole. They don't get me. They're not the right person for you.Brad Crowell 36:00  Yeah, they're not the right person for you, or they don't have the time for you and so you can find somebody else. What about you?Lesley Logan 36:06  Becoming in tune and learning how to listen to your body, most powerful gift you can give yourself. I think it's kind of free, guys, as well. Yeah, it's free. She said, do a self-assessment. What symptoms are you experiencing? Rate your intensity, a one to attend, to effectively commute with a healthcare professional. So you could just literally take notes on your phone. And when you wake up, you could just, like, ask yourself, like, well, how do I feel? What am I experiencing right now? Like, in the morning, I'm experiencing a runny nose, oh, it's because I need to take my allergy medicine, right like, or, and in the afternoon, might sit down for lunch. You can go, what am I experiencing right now? And it's like, oh, my nose is still running. Maybe this is not allergies, right? Like, you know? And then after dinner, like, what? Instead, it could be part of your gratitude practice like, I'm grateful because I feel hot, I'm grateful because I feel tired, part of it, but start to rate it, so that you have notes, and you can start to see patterns. And then when you actually do talk to a healthcare professional, they can see that you are paying attention to yourself. Yeah, like, you know, it's really hard when you go, I don't know it's been a while since I've been feeling this way. Since when? They're going to know since when? Because a while for some people is three days, and for some people it's three fucking years. So you want to say since January 27th, every night I feel like this. You know, like that is important information. Build a self-care routine, if we I mean, we know that this is a big thing. I'm a big fan of, you know, even if it's just sitting or slowing down and practicing the art of doing nothing. That's a great thing.Brad Crowell 37:29  Oh yeah, that was a whole interesting part of the conversation. She said, we need to take 10 minutes and literally do nothing to regulate our nervous system every day. And I thought, huh, do I ever give myself time to do nothing? No, you know why? Because I've got a damn phone and I'm like, scrolling Instagram. If I, if I'm doing quote, unquote relaxing, I'm still doing something.Lesley Logan 37:55  You know what? Also, even if, like, here's the deal, you can walk your dog, which is going to be doing something, but then do nothing while walking your dog. And like so, but find ways to get bored. You know, our yoga teacher always talked about, when his kids go, I'm bored, he's like, you're so fucking lucky. It was one of the greatest things you could ever be, is bored. And lastly, Amber advised us to be patient and compassionate with our with yourself. Try to build a friendship with your body. Whoo, that one, that one, if you do nothing on this world, but like, build (inaudible).Brad Crowell 38:25  I mean, you asked, like, how do we not be impatient when we aren't seeing immediate results? And that's where she said, be compassionate with yourself.Lesley Logan 38:33  Yeah, if you were your friend, telling your friend, I'm not seeing X, Y and Z results, you your friend, would be like, okay, but how long has it been? Okay, but you. Brad Crowell 38:41  It's been a week. Okay, it took me 40 years to get here. Lesley Logan 38:44  Yeah, be nice. You're not a robot. Speaking of not being a robot, I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 38:49  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 38:51  Thank you so much for listening to this episode. Thank you for sending in your favorite parts of the episode. Thank you for sharing what you love and your suggestions. Send your questions and your wins in to beitpod.com/questions. Share this episode with a friend who needs friend who needs to hear it, especially Amber's interview with your friends who are struggling with their health right now and their health journey. It gets really inspiring. Brad Crowell 39:09  beitpod.com/questions Lesley Logan 39:11  Oh, beitpod.com/questions that's more helpful. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 39:17  Bye for now.Lesley Logan 39:19  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. If you want to leave us a message or a question that we might read on another episode, you can text us at +1-310-905-5534 or send a DM on Instagram @BeItPod.Brad Crowell 40:01  It's written, filmed, and recorded by your host, Lesley Logan, and me, Brad Crowell.Lesley Logan 40:06  It is transcribed, produced and edited by the epic team at Disenyo.co.Brad Crowell 40:11  Our theme music is by Ali at Apex Production Music and our branding by designer and artist, Gianfranco Cioffi.Lesley Logan 40:18  Special thanks to Melissa Solomon for creating our visuals.Brad Crowell 40:21  Also to Angelina Herico for adding all of our content to our website. And finally to Meridith Root for keeping us all on point and on time.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/be-it-till-you-see-it/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

A candid business podcast for growth-minded leaders and entrepreneurs. Hosted by Josh Zolin. The truth about leadership, business, and becoming who you're meant to be. Episode 3 with Dr. Gay Hendricks (The Big Leap): We unpack the Upper Limit Problem and how to spot it in real time, then move into practical tools for living in your Zone of Genius. We cover the fears that trigger self-sabotage, the two questions that reveal your genius, excellence vs genius, how to handle worry thoughts, and why wonder is a leadership superpower. What you'll learn • Upper Limit Problem, in plain English • Four common fears underneath self-sabotage • Two questions to find your Zone of Genius • Zone of Excellence vs Zone of Genius • How to work with worry thoughts and control • Simple ways to befriend fear Guest: Dr. Gay Hendricks - author of 40+ books including The Big Leap; co-founder, The Hendricks Institute Listen on your favorite app Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Podcast page: https://www.blueisthenewwhite.com/podcast

Mike Koenigs is a serial entrepreneur, bestselling author, and media strategist who has founded and sold multiple companies to publicly traded firms. He's the author of Your Next Act and The AI Accelerator, and has written over a dozen bestselling books. Mike co-hosts the podcasts Capability Amplifier with Dan Sullivan and The Big Leap with Gay Hendricks. A cancer survivor and sought-after speaker, he's worked with leaders like Tony Robbins, Peter Diamandis, and Dave Asprey to help entrepreneurs reinvent themselves and build businesses they love.Connect with Mike:https://aiaccelerator.com/Get your Free copy of AI Accelerator Book:https://aiaccelerator.mikekoenigs.com/free/Get your Free copy of Your Next Act Book MikeKoenigs.com/free-----------------------------------------------------------Get Your Free Unstoppable Confidence Module from Peak Life OS: https://confidence.peakhumans.io/Start your day right with AG1, packed with 75 high-quality ingredients that support gut health and overall performance. Get a FREE 1-year supply of Vitamin D and 5 free AG1 Travel Packs with your first purchase. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠drinkAG1.com/naeem⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Welcome to Peak Humans with Naeem Mahmood, founder of Peak Humans and a world-renowned peak performance coach, keynote speaker, and expert in leadership, organizational behavior, psychology of achievement, and sales mastery. Previously a top coach for Tony Robbins, Naeem has delivered over 1,000 talks and trainings across the United States, impacting over 50,000 lives.Connect with Naeem:Instagram:⁠⁠ ⁠https://www.instagram.com/iamnaeemmahmood/⁠⁠⁠X:⁠⁠ ⁠https://x.com/NaeemMahmood⁠

Gay Hendricks is a psychologist, teacher, and an author renowned for his work on relationship transformation. Conscious loving is about more than just romance, it's about clarity, commitment, and growth. With endless advice on the internet on how to optimize your love life, what if the real answer is aligning your expectations and evolving together? Expect to learn what conscious loving is and the difference from unconscious loving, why its important to feel your feeling and tell the truth in a relationship, what good commitment looks like, how to be more proactively benevolent in their relationship and stop “keeping score” in a culture that constantly teaches people to expect the even 50/50 split every level, what co-commitment is and the steps to building a co-commitment relationship, and much more… Sponsors: See me on tour in America: ⁠https://chriswilliamson.live⁠ See discounts for all the products I use and recommend: https://chriswillx.com/deals Get $100 off the best bloodwork analysis in America at https://functionhealth.com/modernwisdom Get 35% off your first subscription on the best supplements from Momentous at https://livemomentous.com/modernwisdom Get the brand new Whoop 5.0 and your first month for free at https://join.whoop.com/modernwisdom Timestamps: (0:00) The Key to Conscious Loving (12:54) 10 Seconds of Sweaty Conversation (16:02) Why You Should Be Truthful in a Relationship (21:54) What are the Main Practical Obstacles in a Relationship? (26:43) Creating a Safe Environment to Receive Truth (37:41) Navigating Your Sense of Self in Conscious Relationships (46:40) What is Co-Commitment? (58:47) Breaking the Victimhood Pattern (01:06:25) Men and Women Bring Different Things to the Table (01:15:45) You are the Common Denominator in Your Life (01:27:02) Find Out More About Gay Extra Stuff: Get my free reading list of 100 books to read before you die: https://chriswillx.com/books Try my productivity energy drink Neutonic: https://neutonic.com/modernwisdom Episodes You Might Enjoy: #577 - David Goggins - This Is How To Master Your Life: https://tinyurl.com/43hv6y59 #712 - Dr Jordan Peterson - How To Destroy Your Negative Beliefs: https://tinyurl.com/2rtz7avf #700 - Dr Andrew Huberman - The Secret Tools To Hack Your Brain: https://tinyurl.com/3ccn5vkp - Get In Touch: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/modernwisdompodcast Email: https://chriswillx.com/contact - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Gay Hindricks is a world-renowned pyschologies who works with executives. Author of numerous books, he is best known for The Big Leap.     Revenues $250K to $50M? Sign up for complimentary Breakthrough Session with JV or his team. Find out exact;y what is holding you back from significantly higher sales, profits and impact. JV can fix this. Use this link     Schedule Your Breakthough Session     Join Host JV Crum III, with 2 exits and over 75M revenues in his companies, he is the Ultra-Performer Coach for 6- to 8-figure owners ready to join the top 1% of performers.     Welcome to Season 12 of the award-winning Conscious Millionaire Show. World's #1 conscious business and performance podcast for foundeers and entrepreneurs who want to become Ultra-Performers. Three episodes each week - M / W / F   Access Conscious Millionaire Show     Millions of Listeners in 190 countries. Inc Magazine "Top 13 Business Podcasts" with over 3,000 episodes and 100 million listeners world-wde. Listen 3X a week.

Gay Hindricks is a world-renowned pyschologies who works with executives. Author of numerous books, he is best known for The Big Leap.     Revenues $250K to $50M? Sign up for complimentary Breakthrough Session with JV or his team. Find out exact;y what is holding you back from significantly higher sales, profits and impact. JV can fix this. Use this link     Schedule Your Breakthough Session     Join Host JV Crum III, with 2 exits and over 75M revenues in his companies, he is the Ultra-Performer Coach for 6- to 8-figure owners ready to join the top 1% of performers.     Welcome to Season 12 of the award-winning Conscious Millionaire Show. World's #1 conscious business and performance podcast for foundeers and entrepreneurs who want to become Ultra-Performers. Three episodes each week - M / W / F   Access Conscious Millionaire Show     Millions of Listeners in 190 countries. Inc Magazine "Top 13 Business Podcasts" with over 3,000 episodes and 100 million listeners world-wde. Listen 3X a week.

Most people are either rehashing the past or obsessing over the future - never living in the present moment. The result? Walking around with major incompletions that keep us from connection, creativity, and wholeness. Carrying unfinished conversations, unspoken words, unresolved feelings, and unfelt experiences. And that robs us of something precious…all the incredible things we could be creating right now! Completion isn't about perfection or checking every box. It's the deep, often uncomfortable practice of letting go of past regrets, imagined futures, buried emotions, and the need to control what can't be controlled. When we learn how to complete and release, we create space for what's trying to emerge right now, and that's where the richest experience can be found. Why is it so hard to live in the present moment? How do we detach from the past and the future? In this episode, Gay Hendricks returns to talk about one of life's most powerful skills: knowing how and when to let go. We discuss how to complete things and why that makes room for essence, energy, presence, and genius.    Things You'll Learn In This Episode  -Why we stay in the past (or worry about the future) What's really behind our resistance to being in the present moment? Why are the past and future safe distractions from the wild creativity of now? -The hidden cost of incompletions How do unspoken feelings, unfinished business, and mental replays block our ability to manifest new ideas, deepen relationships, and feel fully alive? -The 10-second sweaty conversation that changes everything What's the one unarguable sentence that can complete years of stuck emotion, tension, or confusion in a relationship, in just seconds?   Guest Bio Gay Hendricks has served for more than 30 years as one of the major contributors to the fields of relationship transformation and bodymind therapies. Along with his wife, Dr. Kate Hendricks, Gay is the author of many bestsellers, including Conscious Loving, At The Speed Of Life, The Big Leap, and the New York Times bestseller, Five Wishes. Dr. Hendricks received his Ph.D. in counseling psychology from Stanford in 1974. After a twenty-one-year career as a professor at the University of Colorado, he founded The Hendricks Institute and later co-founded its charitable organization, Foundation for Conscious Living. He was also the founder of a virtual learning center for transformation and a publishing company, and was a co-founder of a conscious entertainment company. Throughout his career he has done executive coaching with more than 800 executives, including the top management at such firms as Dell Computer, Hewlett-Packard, Motorola and KLM. His book, The Corporate Mystic, is used widely to train management in combining business skills and personal development tools. Gay is also a mystery novelist, with a series of five books featuring the Tibetan-Buddhist private detective, Tenzing Norbu. In recent years, he has co-created a popular podcast called The Big Leap with Gay Hendricks and Mike Koenigs. He has appeared on more than 500 radio and television shows, including OPRAH, CNN, CNBC, 48 HOURS, and others. Learn about the Coaches Portal here.    About Your Hosts Katie Hendricks, Ph.D., BC-DMT, is a pioneer in body intelligence and conscious loving with over 40 years of experience. Known internationally as a presenter and seminar leader, she focuses on authenticity, responsibility, and appreciation in conscious living. She co-authored 12 books, including best-sellers Conscious Loving and Conscious Loving Ever After, and she has appeared on over 500 radio and TV programs. Sophie Chiche is a seasoned coach and consultant who has worked with thousands of individuals and teams globally. With a focus on helping people live fully expressed lives, she guides clients and facilitates group sessions to remove obstacles and design meaningful lives. Sophie has developed unique methods, mindset shifts, and healing modalities to create lasting change.   Check out this episode on our website, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm, so the show reaches more people!

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What if the one thing standing between you and true success is your own upper limit? Ever feel like every time things start going really well, something inevitably goes wrong? Maybe you land the dream client, but then self-doubt creeps in. Or you finally hit a financial milestone, only to sabotage yourself with burnout. If this sounds familiar, you might be hitting your upper limit—without even realizing it. Dr. Gay Hendricks, author of The Big Leap, is here to break it all down. He'll show you how to stop the self-sabotage cycle and step into a life of abundance, creativity, and success without fear holding you back. BY THE TIME YOU FINISH LISTENING, YOU'LL DISCOVER: Why we unconsciously hold ourselves back from success and happiness. The key signs that you're hitting your upper limit (and what to do about it!). How to shift into your Zone of Genius and unlock your full potential. The surprising way to create lasting transformation in your personal and professional life. It's time to break free from self-imposed ceilings and step boldly into your greatness! CONNECT WITH GAY HENDRICKS: Website: www.hendricks.comInstagram: @hendricks.gay Book: The Big Leap – Available on Amazon and bookstores everywhere. TAKE ACTION

Hello lovelies! Thanks for listening (and reading!)This is a re-release. I'm taking a break/pause for the Summer "slowing down to speed up" and am looking forward to what the Fall will bring!To name a few things that I'm working on are!1. An upcoming Audio Summit (to be launched in the Fall of 2025). 'A Summit for High Achieving Introverts, Empaths and Highly Sensitive People to go from Selfless to Self-love and from Depleted to Dynamic!'2. And an upcoming Audiobook (to be released in February of 2026). It will have the same premise and title as the Audio Summit, except it will be 'A Guide for High Achieving Introverts, Empaths and Highly Sensitive People to go from Selfless to Self-love and from Depleted to Dynamic!'I hope you enjoy this episode!Elizabeth⁠⁠My website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠IG handle⁠⁠⁠⁠All links are ⁠⁠here⁠⁠!⁠⁠⁠Helping High Achieving Introverts, Empaths and Highly Sensitive People To Go from Depleted to Dynamic⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Freebie! Listen to My Summer of Self-love Podcast Series!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Work with Me (Set-up a 1:1 Strategy Call!)⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Get My Newsletter (or Love Letters As I Like To Call Them!) :)⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Send me a DM on IG!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Let's Connect on LinkedIn!⁠⁠~~~~~~~~~~~~~Now, back to your regularly scheduled programming.... ;-)What is your Zone of Genius? Or Zones of Genius plural? This term came from the book 'The Big Leap' by Gay Hendricks. Some say it's our purpose and some even say it's our 'superpower'.The best way for me to describe it is that our Zones of Genius are our traits or things that we're naturally good at (it comes easy for us) and it's things or actions that energize us altogether.So for example, I'm good at planning gatherings but I don't absolutely love the tasks that go into it. This isn't my Zone of Genius because I don't love to do it and I don't feel that it's my purpose. Another way to figure this out is if you don't do any of your Zones of Genius, you feel 'empty' or 'off' or even 'down'.If I don't do at least one of the below every so often I won't feel good and I'll be down and out. I've discovered that my Zones of Genius are (in no particular order): 1. Connecting with others2. Encouraging and Motivating others3. Sharing information with othersIt took the most of my life to figure out what they were. I didn't know before this. Self-awareness is a part of self-love. Do you know what your Zone of Genius is or are? If the answer is no, I encourage you to take some time and to do a brain dump and write down what you absolutely love doing as well as what you're naturally good at. Something that comes easy for you that people always say..."you're really good at this!" or "How did you do this so effortlessly?". Remember it also has to be things that you absolutely love doing, too! If you know what your Zones of Genius is or are, please make a comment below! :) Thanks~~~~~~~~~~~If this or any of my podcast episodes have been of value to you, please subscribe/follow and if you would be so kind as to rate me a 5 ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ review? >>>To do a review on: Apple>>> 1. Click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ >>>and 2. Scroll to the bottom to Ratings & Reviews >>3. Tap to Rate >> how many stars ️️️️️'s and then 'Write a Review'. Thanks! ORon Spotify >>> 1. Click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ >>> and 2. Scroll to the Top and Click on the three dots (...) and 3. Rate Show >> how many stars ️️️️️️'s. Thanks in advance! ~~~~~~~~~~~I talk more about this on my newsletter or my ‘Love Letters' as I like to call them). Wanna get my ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠? Sign-up ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠!I hope you enjoy this episode and that it helps you in some way, shape or form. I podcast for the love of connecting with others, encouraging others and sharing information with others. Cheers to speaking up and for making your voice heardLet's ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Connect⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠! ☎️ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Book a 1:1 Call Here!

Hello lovelies! Thanks for listening (and reading!)This is a re-release. I'm taking a break/pause for the Summer "slowing down to speed up" and am looking forward to what the Fall will bring!To name a few things that I'm working on are!1. An upcoming Audio Summit (to be launched in the Fall of 2025). 'A Summit for High Achieving Introverts, Empaths and Highly Sensitive People to go from Selfless to Self-love and from Depleted to Dynamic!'2. And an upcoming Audiobook (to be released in February of 2026). It will have the same premise and title as the Audio Summit, except it will be 'A Guide for High Achieving Introverts, Empaths and Highly Sensitive People to go from Selfless to Self-love and from Depleted to Dynamic!'I hope you enjoy this episode!Elizabeth⁠⁠My website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠IG handle⁠⁠⁠⁠All links are ⁠⁠here⁠⁠!⁠⁠⁠Helping High Achieving Introverts, Empaths and Highly Sensitive People To Go from Depleted to Dynamic⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Freebie! Listen to My Summer of Self-love Podcast Series!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Work with Me (Set-up a 1:1 Strategy Call!)⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Get My Newsletter (or Love Letters As I Like To Call Them!) :)⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Send me a DM on IG!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Let's Connect on LinkedIn!⁠⁠~~~~~~~~~~~~~Now, back to your regularly scheduled programming.... ;-)What is your Zone of Genius? Or Zones of Genius plural? This term came from the book 'The Big Leap' by Gay Hendricks. Some say it's our purpose and some even say it's our 'superpower'.The best way for me to describe it is that our Zones of Genius are our traits or things that we're naturally good at (it comes easy for us) and it's things or actions that energize us altogether.So for example, I'm good at planning gatherings but I don't absolutely love the tasks that go into it. This isn't my Zone of Genius because I don't love to do it and I don't feel that it's my purpose. Another way to figure this out is if you don't do any of your Zones of Genius, you feel 'empty' or 'off' or even 'down'.If I don't do at least one of the below every so often I won't feel good and I'll be down and out. I've discovered that my Zones of Genius are (in no particular order): 1. Connecting with others2. Encouraging and Motivating others3. Sharing information with othersIt took the most of my life to figure out what they were. I didn't know before this. Self-awareness is a part of self-love. Do you know what your Zone of Genius is or are? If the answer is no, I encourage you to take some time and to do a brain dump and write down what you absolutely love doing as well as what you're naturally good at. Something that comes easy for you that people always say..."you're really good at this!" or "How did you do this so effortlessly?". Remember it also has to be things that you absolutely love doing, too! If you know what your Zones of Genius is or are, please make a comment below! :) Thanks~~~~~~~~~~~If this or any of my podcast episodes have been of value to you, please subscribe/follow and if you would be so kind as to rate me a 5 ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ review? >>>To do a review on: Apple>>> 1. Click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ >>>and 2. Scroll to the bottom to Ratings & Reviews >>3. Tap to Rate >> how many stars ️️️️️'s and then 'Write a Review'. Thanks! ORon Spotify >>> 1. Click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ >>> and 2. Scroll to the Top and Click on the three dots (...) and 3. Rate Show >> how many stars ️️️️️️'s. Thanks in advance! ~~~~~~~~~~~I talk more about this on my newsletter or my ‘Love Letters' as I like to call them). Wanna get my ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠? Sign-up ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠!I hope you enjoy this episode and that it helps you in some way, shape or form. I podcast for the love of connecting with others, encouraging others and sharing information with others. Cheers to speaking up and for making your voice heardLet's ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Connect⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠!

Jackie Boyle returns nearly two years after paying off $200K+ in student loans to share how that milestone shaped her growth. Jackie also discusses mindset shifts, burnout in pharmacy, and her mission to help ambitious women reconnect with their purpose and potential. Episode Summary In this episode, Jackie Boyle, PharmD, returns to the YFP Podcast to share what's happened in the nearly two years since she and her husband paid off over $200,000 in student loans. Jackie and Tim Ulbrich dive into the pressure many pharmacists feel to follow a traditional career path, the mindset shifts required to break free from self-limiting beliefs, and the realities of burnout in the profession. Jackie also opens up about her journey into coaching and the mission behind Jackie Boyle Coaching, where she helps ambitious women reconnect with their purpose and potential. Whether you're feeling stuck, burned out, or questioning what's next in your career, this episode offers honest insights, encouragement, and hope for what's possible. Mentioned on the Show YFP YouTube Channel YFP 331: How One Couple Paid Off $208k of Student Loans Standard University “Imposter Syndrome” Turning Pro by Steven Pressfield The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks 10x is Easier Than 2x by Dan Sullivan Jackie Boyle Coaching   Jackie Boyle LinkedIn Profile

André, The Impulsive Thinker™, sits down with serial Entrepreneur Mike Koenigs to tackle a question so many ADHD Entrepreneurs face: what's next when your business just isn't lighting you up anymore? Mike shares his own raw experiences with losing identity after selling businesses and how to break free when you're stuck, bored, or feeling unseen. This episode dives into finding purpose after a business exit, the real risks of staying idle, and Mike's simple framework to figure out your next act. If you're ready to stop drifting and start designing what's next, this one's for you.  

E se você parasse de tentar controlar tudo e começasse a viver o que já foi desenhado pra você?Nesse episódio, conversamos sobre o que muda quando vivemos alinhados ao nosso mapa no Desenho Humano. Ana Marsh compartilha como decidiu ser projetora de propósito, e como isso transformou sua forma de manifestar, agir e confiar.Falamos sobre fé, entrega, controle e os 6 arquétipos de personalidade do Desenho Humano e como é viver alinhado (ou não) com quem você realmente é.Um papo profundo sobre viver com mais presença, coerência e confiança na Inteligência Divina que te criou.

Lesley and Brad recap Lesley's informative conversation with Matthew Lesko, the iconic question-mark-suit-wearing advocate for free government resources. Learn how to get support for your business or personal goals, shift your mindset around asking for help, and tap into programs that already exist to empower you. This episode breaks down key takeaways, including how Lesko's mission began and the tools you can use to take action today. If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How to modify a Reformer with a stationary headrest for safer workouts.How Matthew Lesko redefines success by staying true to his heart.Why injecting fun into your work creates motivation and momentum.The types of government resources most people overlook—and how to find them.Why booking a real appointment beats filling out forms online.Episode References/Links:eLevate Workout and Q&A - https://lesleylogan.co/elevatewaitlistAgency Mini - https://prfit.biz/miniOPC Summer Tour - https://opc.me/tourUK Mullet Tour - https://opc.me/ukCambodia October 2025 Waitlist - https://crowsnestretreats.comSubmit your questions - https://beitpod.com/questionsYouTube: How to Choose a Reformer - https://beitpod.com/choosingareformerBook: Big Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert - https://a.co/d/9qFidcWMatthew Lesko's - https://beitpod.com/leskohelpEp. 400: Gay Hendricks - https://beitpod.com/gayhendricksEp. 196: Beate Chelette - https://beitpod.com/beatecheletteFind Local Help for Basic Needs – https://www.findhelp.orgGovernment Contracting Support (Apex Accelerators) – www.apexaccelerators.usSmall Business Support (SBA Local Assistance) – www.sba.gov/local-assistance If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! 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You're gonna have to care about the problem that you're solving. Lesley Logan 0:12  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started. Lesley Logan 0:51  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the endearingly fun convo I had with Matthew Lesko in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause us now, go back and listen to that one, because you've missed out. Brad Crowell 1:09  So you could also have said the wise, happy old man convo I had, who drops a lot of F bombs. Lesley Logan 1:14  And also, when we say old, I just want to say, like, there's nothing. He is not like slow.Brad Crowell 1:20  No, he does not come across that old. And he said PSM 81. I was like, what? Really?Lesley Logan 1:26  Yeah, yeah, he's feisty and fun, and. Brad Crowell 1:29  Heck yeah. Lesley Logan 1:29  And like, working so hard for everyone. And I was just so excited. And then when we I was like, I had just interviewed him that day, and our friend Michael and Brogan was here at the house, and I was like, oh my God, I just interviewed someone. You should have him on your show. And I just started describing him and our friend Michael was like, Matthew Lesko? And he was like, he's like, the guy with a question mark suit. And I'm like, yeah, that's him. And he's like, stop right now. I want him on my show. So anyways, super, super fun. We'll get into that episode in just a second. But today is July 3rd 2025 and it's National Compliment Your Mirror Day. National Compliment Your Mirror Day is on July 3rd. We live in an image-driven world. Sometimes this can cause us to not notice and compliment a very important person in our lives, ourselves. This day motivates us to look in the mirror and recognize all those things that make us exceptional, inside and out. So go look yourself in the mirror and give yourself a compliment. Brad Crowell 2:25  Go do it. Lesley Logan 2:25  Do it now. You can use your phone as a camera if , as a mirror, if you want. But sometimes I do that. Okay, literally, next week. Is it next week? I guess it's July 3rd, so maybe a little after a week. Brad Crowell 2:38  Well, Happy July 4th for those in the United States. Lesley Logan 2:41  Those who celebrate. Brad Crowell 2:42  The independence that we are on the brink of not having. Lesley Logan 2:47  You guys, I'm just going to be really honest, we're recording this while L.A. is being taken over by people. A lot of misleading information, a lot of bad stuff. Make sure always, always, always, always get news from the people who are on the ground, because people like to spend things. And so anyways, if you're celebrating the Fourth of July, Happy Fourth of July. But, in exciting news, on July 9th, I'm hosting a free workout for those people who are interested in eLevate, my mentorship program. And we'll have a Q&A, we'll have eLevate grads on there who will tell you why they love it so much. And you just want to go to lesleylogan.co/elevatewaitlist to get on, get the invitation, and come to that. We have, like, I don't know, at the time we're recording this, like, eight spots left, I think, which is not a lot of spots at all. Brad Crowell 2:47  It's not a lot of spots, y'all. Lesley Logan 3:27  No, and we're actually, like, gonna be, you know, pretty soon, starting to work out who has what time slot. Brad Crowell 3:40  I mean, there are hundreds of people on the waitlist. Lesley Logan 3:43  Yeah, like, like, several hundreds. Like, for eight people. Brad Crowell 3:47  Eight spots, right? Because we started.Lesley Logan 3:49  But don't let that deter you. That means you should go be one of those eight people. Brad Crowell 3:53  100%Lesley Logan 3:54  Yeah. Brad Crowell 3:54  Yeah. And you're welcome to reach out, you know now, so, but yeah, July 9th, it's gonna be a super good time. We're going to have a free class, answer questions, have some alumni on there, but guess what I'm really excited about, too.Lesley Logan 4:07  Yeah, we're doing Agency Mini, our coaching program that we do, where we. Brad Crowell 4:12  Bringing it back. Lesley Logan 4:12  We help as many people as possible. Brad Crowell 4:12  Bring it back to me. Lesley Logan 4:13  Yeah, and we're doing it in three days, so you don't have to be overwhelmed by a week-long situation with like, the Facebook, none of that stuff. So if you've heard of Mini before, this is a new Mini. Brad Crowell 4:28  If you've done Mini before, you should come back and do that. Lesley Logan 4:31  Yeah, we used to have a rule that you couldn't and now you can. Brad Crowell 4:34  Yeah, we're, this is a special invite. Special invite because it's different. You know. We're, we're taking the concept and we made it better, we made it shorter, we made it easier, we made it faster, all the things. And so, you know, you really can learn a lot in just three days with us. And then, you know, there's also opportunities for coaching calls, which we never offer outside of our coaching group. Or you can book a coaching call with either Lesley or with me. It's a Round Robin. So you'll be surprised at who you get, because it's just based on our availability. But basically.Lesley Logan 4:58  Oh, that's cool. So they're just booking it and, like. Brad Crowell 5:07  They're just booking a call and getting aside. Lesley Logan 5:08  Cool. It's like speed dating.Brad Crowell 5:10  Kind of, but it's gonna be great because, you know, we, we don't have, we don't set aside the time to coach people who are not in our coaching group, because it's already a lot, right? And so what we've done differently this time is we're creating that space that time we actually are leaving, you know, time during six days where you can book a call with us. And you do that when you register for Agency Mini, so when you're going through and it says, like, oh, do you want to join Agency? Say yes. And then during the checkout, you'll say, oh yeah, and yes, I would like to add a coaching call and so, you know, we'll, we'll be able to chat. It's gonna be awesome. I'm looking forward to it. I'm looking forward to meeting everybody. I love hearing all the different things that are going on. I just had a coaching call with a new Agency member, and she's opening up a bigger space, like a much bigger space than her current space. Lesley Logan 5:56  Oh, is it, who I think it is? Brad Crowell 6:03  No, not at all. So, you know, and they, they were, they're trying to figure out, like, you know, all the mechanics behind that. And what's so fun is that Lesley and I've been able to be there for this conversation many, many, many, many times over the years, plus we've done it ourselves, right? So anyway, come join us. Go to Agency Mini, prfit.biz/mini P-R-F-I-T dot biz, that's profit without the O dot biz slash mini. Then, we're hitting the road.Lesley Logan 6:33  Yeah, after Mini, we literally pack up the van and we're gonna go on tour, you guys, 15 cities and like, 20-something days. Our tour is powered by Balanced Body, and many of the events are sold out, like a lot of them are sold out and so but also on this one, there is an opportunity to join a virtual so if I've never come to a city near you, you've never had the time to drive a half hour across town, all that stuff, you can actually get tickets to the virtual events we're doing in Calgary. So go to opc.me/tour to see the lineup, the cities. I can name them for you. We're doing Phoenix, San Diego, Los Angeles, Santa Barbara, San Francisco, Sacramento, Eureka, Portland, Seattle, Vancouver, Kamloops, Calgary, McCall, Idaho, Salt Lake in Las Vegas.Brad Crowell 7:18  That's right, I'm impressed you just rattled that off I think that's 16, right? Something like that. 15?Lesley Logan 7:22  Some people keep saying 15, whenever I counted. It feels like 16, so I don't know. Brad Crowell 7:28  Yeah. Well, anyway, it's a bunch. It's exciting. We've got a lot going on, and we can't wait to meet you in person. So come join us. Go to opc dot me slash T-O-U-R that's opc.me/tour. And then.Lesley Logan 7:41  We had a lot of people in the U.K. jealous of this tour. And I'm like, hold on, we're coming your way in September. So we come home, we acclimate, then we go into the U.K. We have two city locations in the U.K. for our Mullet Tour, which means business in the front Pilates in the back. Don't worry, the business is also like life skills. So.Brad Crowell 7:59  It's not like super deep business in a studio. So you can.Lesley Logan 8:02  No, you can be a non-teacher. Brad Crowell 8:04  One of them is about scheduling, and you can apply that to any element of life, like. Lesley Logan 8:14  One of them is about habits. Brad Crowell 8:14  And the other's about habits. That's right. So. So anyway, it's gonna be awesome. Go to opc.me/uk.Lesley Logan 8:15  We'll do Leeds and we'll do Essex. And right now we have three spots left in Leeds. No, they're not days passes yet available for Leeds. There's only three weekend passes left, so we're not breaking those up. In Essex, we have day passes because it's during the week. Or you can save money by getting two day pass. So go to opc.me/uk you can come to both. There's only, like, two workshops that cross over. So.Brad Crowell 8:37  You could come to Leeds and then to Essex, yeah, you totally could do that, and then you can continue the conversation. Because often, when you do a workshop and you leave, how often do you immediately revisit that content? Imagine being able to revisit it right away and just take it even deeper, hear it again and, like, really dial it in. So that's also an option. Then, in October, guess where we're going? Lesley Logan 9:01  Back to Cambodia. Brad Crowell 9:02  That's what we're doing. We can't wait. Obviously, we love Cambodia. We love going there. We love helping people experience another world altogether. It is just the coolest place.Lesley Logan 9:13  I love just like getting some time away from the life and chaos that's going on that you like, absorb all the time, and you're dealing with all the time to just like, to just fill your cup up and be amazed about what community can look like in a village, and what it can look like to see temples that took hundreds, if not thousands of people over, you know, several years working together. And sometimes when I just feel like there's just no way we're going to solve this problem, that I go there and I'm like, well, they did this, and if they did this, I can solve a problem. So, like, I just it's always very, It's humbling, but also grounding, and then it really allows you to step away from what's going on and get a bigger, get a better understanding and come back into it.Brad Crowell 9:57  I love it. Well, you're not wrong. It is mind-blowing it is one of those trips that will change your perspective of life in general. It's amazing. So you should join us. Go to crowsnestretreats.com crowsnestretreats.com. Come join us. There are still spots for this October, and it's not too late to get the plane tickets. I think Lesley and I just basically bought ours recently. Lesley Logan 10:18  We have haven't bought them yet. No. Brad Crowell 10:19  We've been looking at them. Lesley Logan 10:19  We're looking at them. Brad Crowell 10:19  So we haven't bought them yet, right? So don't worry, there's room, okay, there's time. So come join us. But, before we get into the Matthew Lesko question mark jacket, he didn't wear it in the interview. But he. Lesley Logan 10:33  Yes, he did. Brad Crowell 10:34  He wore his question mark jacket? Lesley Logan 10:36  Oh, yeah, you didn't watch? Brad Crowell 10:37  No, I did watch, but I kept looking at his epic blue glasses.Lesley Logan 10:41  No, there was question marks on that suit that clearly-fitted-to-him suit. Brad Crowell 10:46  He's a badass. Lesley Logan 10:47  Wonderfully fitted to him. Brad Crowell 10:48  Well. Anyway, before we get into that, we have an audience question @MarleneBroek on YouTube says, I wish I could do a Scottish accent, because I think her last name is Scottish, but I'm not going to try. She said hello, I already have a Reformer, but my head rest is stationary. Any recommendation for a separate headrest, such as the kind that forms to one's neck, interesting, or one that is flat to go on top of it. Thank you so much for your time. All right, Marlene, get ready, because I already know what's coming.Lesley Logan 11:22  So unfortunately, you all, many, many people are now making Reformers who've never done Pilates before, and they don't know that these things make a difference. So I'm super, super glad you're curious, because your headrest is not supposed to be stationary. So what I don't know from this is, if your headrest is stationary up or stationary down. My hope is that it's stationary down, because then we can get like a wedge pillow of some kind that will mimic a head rest being up. But then you could take that, that insert away, and then you could actually still do overhead exercises. If it is stationary up, you cannot do any overhead exercises. No, there's nothing we can do. I don't even know that what you can do, because I don't have a picture of your Reformer, don't know if it has hinges, if you could add anything. Unclear. So what I will say is, I'm just going to assume your headrest is stationary down for the rest of this conversation. You don't want a pillow or headrest that forms to your neck, because we're not actually trying to support the neck in that way we're, actually, when we have the headrest up, it's meant to tilt your head in just a way, so your neck can relax, but your upper abs can engage without us even telling you. That's why the headrest is up for footwork, for frogs and circles, for running, for pelvic lift, that your headrest is up so that your you just have this nice little support to help you engage your upper abs without you using your neck. It's really quite cool. He's very fast. So anyways, and it's down when you're not using that. So you can do overhead exercises. You get your box on top, things like that. So I would look into, Marlene, some sort of like foam wedge that you can cut to the size of your headrest. Brad Crowell 13:00  And firm foam. Lesley Logan 13:01  I would definitely say something firm. You don't want to be like a pillow.Brad Crowell 13:05  Right. So, so, like, I'm thinking about your baby chair and that little funny wedge that you have for the baby chair. Kind of would be like that. So, like, and that wedge, you're sitting on it, and it doesn't move, like, it doesn't give, it, literally, is intended to level out the baby chair. So in this case, you would want something that's firm like that as well. Lesley Logan 13:23  Yeah, very firm, like, you can even.Brad Crowell 13:26  Like, you basically just taking it on and off.Lesley Logan 13:27  I mean, I would imagine, like, if you have someone handy in your life with, like, a really cool saw that could, like, take a yoga block and, like, slice it from. Brad Crowell 13:37  That's a good texture, yoga block. I bet you could modify a yoga block to make your own wedge. Lesley Logan 13:42  Yeah. And I think that some yoga blocks even come like that. So, like you, I mean, like, there's a lot of things out there, but that's what I would do. Brad Crowell 13:50  What kind of angle are we talking about here?Lesley Logan 13:52  Let me just get my protractor out. It's, it's not as.Brad Crowell 13:59  If there's a right angle, is it halfway? Lesley Logan 14:01  No. Brad Crowell 14:02  No. It's 1/3 of the way? Lesley Logan 14:03  One-third, maybe. Your eyes are still able to look at the ceiling. You're not looking at your toes. Brad Crowell 14:09  Got it. Lesley Logan 14:10  Yeah. Brad Crowell 14:10  Cool. Lesley Logan 14:11  Yeah. So Marlene, I hope this helps you. This is why I did the Reformer, you know, how to choose a reformer video. And this is why these are things we have to think about when it comes to what, what changes did an engineer make when making your rReformer, you know, like, did they change the springs for bungee cords? Did they change the foot bar that moves to a fixed vertical foot bar? Did they change that there's no head the headrest doesn't go down or doesn't go up? Did they change the shoulder rest so that they're round and not actually something that like allows your shoulders to be wide, or your foot to be against something that like fills their foot out like the Contrology shoulder blocks actually fit the shape of your foot. That's why they're (inaudible). That's why they're made the way they're made. So.Brad Crowell 14:53  I was like, what?Lesley Logan 14:55  So anyways, I don't think you have to go buy a whole other Reformer, Marlene, but I would do this, and then I would have a little savings account for the another, the next Reformer. And trust me, someone will buy this off you for the same thing you paid for it, because everything goes up in price and they're not paying tax on shipping.Brad Crowell 15:10  No doubt. Well, and then when you're ready to go shopping, reach back out to us and we'll connect you with Balanced Body, where we've got a discount code for you there. So yeah, all right. If you have a question.Lesley Logan 15:21  Send it to the beitpod.com/questions. Brad Crowell 15:24  That's right. Send it to beitpod.com/questions beitpod.com/questions. If you have a win, and you want us to cover that win on the FYFs on Friday, you can also submit it right there as well. So thanks for asking that. Stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to dig into the question mark-filled convo with Matthew Lesko. Actually, it's more like mind-blowing convo. He has said wealth of information and exuberance for life. I really enjoyed it. So we'll be right back. Brad Crowell 15:50  Okay, welcome back. Let's talk about Mr. Matthew Lesko. At the age of 81, Matthew is still rocking those question mark suits and has spent four decades helping people find free resources that they did not know existed, which I kind of think is amazing. He has written over 100 books, y'all, he's written 100 books. He has appeared on shows like Oprah, Larry King, The Good Morning America, and built a thriving online community that connects people to grants, businesses and funding and overlooked financial support. PS, I did math while I was listening, his, his community is like 5000 plus people. Yeah, that's crazy. From a string of failed businesses to becoming a recognizable voice for everyday people, Matthew has made it his mission to make support accessible. And it proves it's not about luck. It's about knowing where to look. So we're fired up about that. That was amazing. Tell me one of your favorite things about this convo. Lesley Logan 16:47  Okay. How many things can I talk about? But first I want to just like he emphasized, there's no single formula for success. He talks about how life and starting anything new, this is important, means dealing with failure, struggle and a lot of guesswork. My perfectionist, here it is from someone who's written 100 books and is 81 years old and seen it all. You know, it come like success actually comes from dealing with failure, struggling, a lot of guesswork. And he believes success doesn't come from knowing everything, but from possessing the energy and willingness to keep trying and learn from failures. Hold on. I have to, I have to say this. He strongly advocates that you follow your heart. Stated, he says the way to get anything done is your heart has to be in it. He also said your heart is smarter than your brain, and to trust that more than anything. And I love this, because I think, like a lot of people, like, well, what's specifically when we coach people on their Pilates business, I'm like, oh, you know, who do you want to help? Well, that's, I want to help everyone. Brad Crowell 17:45  Me, too. Lesley Logan 17:45  Right. But like, who do you want to help? Because if your heart's not in it, you're gonna really be annoyed helping the person that you don't want to help. And then you're if your heart's not in it, you're gonna start resenting them and, like, start going, oh, this becomes another job, right? Like, your heart has to be in what you're doing.Brad Crowell 18:01  Yeah, definitely. You know, it's so funny. We were just talking about this recently, where I feel like there's the two extremes, like I'll do anything for money. I'll only do it if I love it. And, you know, I know I kind of flip flopped over this, you know, during my life. And he has a very compelling argument to follow your heart, and I think also too, you know, he's very savvy. He's very business savvy. So he's been able to figure out how, by following his heart, can he also make money. And he's turned it into like a mission, and that mission has attracted other people who are like-minded. And, I mean, that is like the ideal scenario. Lesley Logan 18:45  Well, and also, if you realize, like, you know, first of all, you know, Big Magic is a great book for everyone to read. And some of your things that you love to do, that you're like, are creative, aren't meant for making money on. So that's, we're not. I don't think that Matthew or us are advocating that you like if you love pottery, that you go or you only make pots, and that's how you make money. That whatever you are setting yourself up to do, to go through the struggles, to go through the obstacles, to go through the failures, you'll, you have to actually want to do it. You can have to care about the problem that you're solving. If you don't care, you're not gonna be able to handle those obstacles. You're not gonna be able to go through it. You're gonna, you'll get, you'll get a door slam on your face and just go, okay, well, I'm not into it, right? So I think that's what he means, that your heart has to be in it. Like not everything you love doing will be a thing you make money on, but you gotta care about what you're doing. Gotta have care for it to be successful.Brad Crowell 19:40  Yeah, and I think there was something he said that just went right out of my mind. But he, he, he was talking about the when his, when he first, he actually, first off, I had no idea, he was in the military, but apparently he was in the military after he got out, he started.Lesley Logan 20:02  81 (inaudible). I don't think you get to be 81 and you weren't, unless you're an asshole, draft dodger dickhead. Anyway.Brad Crowell 20:02  That's fair. So he, he said he started a bunch of businesses and they failed. He started another business and they failed, and then he became a consultant, and that somehow, you know, was working, but then he was making millionaires billionaires. And he was like, that sucks. You know, he's like, these people don't care about anybody except for themselves. And he was not and he was not really enjoying it. And you know, he said he had this moment though, where he's showing up for the job, and he's like, uh, someday it's gonna be better and more fun, and then hopefully when I'm retired, I'll be able to go enjoy life. And he said, wait a minute. Why? Why should I keep doing something that I hate just hoping that someday it'll make it'll be better, it'll I will enjoy it more, or it's gonna pay me what I want to pay. He's like, I only have one life to live, and I'm better. I should start enjoying what I'm doing now. How do I do that? How do I do that? You know? So he said he flipped the script and decided to prioritize having fun. And he said having fun is contagious. He said it's a little contagious. In fact, you know, just his approach to the podcast was contagious and fun and joyful, you know. And he said it's also when you're doing something that feels fun, you are naturally motivated to work harder, right? So, you know, instead of like, kicking yourself to go get the thing done, that you have to do, what if you could do something that is fun, you know, you're gonna do it well, because you love doing it?Lesley Logan 21:37  Yeah. Yeah. It made me think a little bit about Gay Hendricks is, like, zone of genius kind of a thing. Like, I feel like. Brad Crowell 21:44  Sure.Lesley Logan 21:44  I feel like they're very similar, except for this one is, like, except for Matthew is teaching us how to get the money we need to go do the thing we love.Brad Crowell 21:54  Yeah, it's, it's very true, and he's encyclopedic with that, as well. He was very impressive. Lesley Logan 21:58  I will say. Like, if you listen to episode 400, Gay Hendricks will help you figure out what your zone of genius is. And then Matthew Lesko will give you all the websites for where you can get paid to do your zone of genius. I think that these are two must listen tos.Brad Crowell 22:12  Who knew that kind of a thing, just, mind-blowing. Lesley Logan 22:12  And I think that each state has that. You have to figure out, like, how does your state, how does your state make money? Right? Because every state's a little different. How they tax, what they tax. So like, obviously Nevada is not excited to help us unless we are a casino. So since we are not one of those things, we're not getting that. But at the same time, there's still going to be things we can reach out to figure like, find ways, because this, they do have local people who need.Brad Crowell 22:40  Yeah, gambling and tourism, that's how Nevada makes money.Lesley Logan 22:43  Yeah. So that's how that makes money. So, like, but we can figure out, like, okay, well, how, what does the city need, right? Because we actually don't live for, the strip is not part of Las Vegas, surprising. It's technically paradise, but, but, but you can figure out what your city needs to get, what your county needs to get, what state needs, and then go, oh, well, what are they? They're paying for that, they're giving out grants for that. Like, yeah, you do the paperwork. But like, not many people are. Brad Crowell 23:06  Not many people are. Lesley Logan 23:07  Remember, I forget her name, B-D B-D. Brad Crowell 23:12  B-E-A-T-Y? Lesley Logan 23:14  Yeah. No, no, B-E-A-T-T-E. She was on our on an episode of The Be It Pod, and she got a, she got an SBA grant because she filled out the fucking paperwork.Brad Crowell 23:26  Yeah, I. Lesley Logan 23:27  B-D Brad Crowell 23:28  Don't have her name there.Lesley Logan 23:30  Well, she's in the two hundreds. Let's see how.Brad Crowell 23:35  Oh, B-E-A-T-E Chalet, Chalet. She was, she,her interview was 196. I'm very proud.Lesley Logan 23:43  Ah, I was so close. And I was thinking, Beate Chelette, but I was like, no, I was confusing her with Aletta Rochat. And I was like, no, but actually, I should have said it out loud, because I was right. Anyway, so close, so close. Yeah, but she, if you guys listen to her episode 196 she actually got an SBA grant for her business idea. You know? Brad Crowell 24:05  I love that. Lesley Logan 24:05  Because she did the thing that Matthew said to do, make the appointment, sit down with the people like, fill out the thing. Anyways.Brad Crowell 24:13  Impressive. All right. Well, anyway, stick around. We'll be right back. We're going to dig into that amazing convo you had with him about the Be It Action Items, which y'all literally, you have to take notes like, it is, it's 100% you have to go back. You slow it down, listen to it twice, write down all the things he said. But we're gonna talk about it so. Lesley Logan 24:31  And it's also in the transcripts. Brad Crowell 24:33  Oh yeah, we'll put the links in the transcripts, but stick around. We'll be right back. Brad Crowell 24:37  Okay. Finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. Say it with me Mindi. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Matthew Lesko. He shared an abundance of untapped government resources, both state and federal. By the way, it's not just the federal.Lesley Logan 25:00  And I guess for the people who live internationally, I imagine these things probably exist in a lot of places you live. Brad Crowell 25:05  I'm 100% sure about Canada. In fact, I have a lot of musician friends who would get grants in Canada where the Canadian government was willing to sponsor. Lesley Logan 25:14  Yes. We have had guests who do that. That is amazing. Brad Crowell 25:16  Yeah. And that that like, I don't even maybe that's available here too. I have no idea, but I'll tell you. You know, that was seemed to me like, like my college friends were like, I want to make an album. And they literally applied to the Canadian federal government, and they got like, 10 grand to make an album. And I was in college going, how the hell, why can't I get 10 grand? Lesley Logan 25:36  I mean, they were Canadian, obviously. Brad Crowell 25:38  Yeah, they were, they were obviously Canadian. So anyway, he shared a bunch of untapped resources. He said that 40% of everything in our economy are organizations that give you free money to solve a problem. I don't really understand that statistic, and I can't actually validate that, but he's been doing this for four decades, y'all, so he knows all these things. He emphasized that these programs are already paid for with our tax dollars. So it's on us to take advantage of them, or the money just sits there, it doesn't get used, right? And also, it might not be the kind of thing that they get to they don't just hoard it and pile it. It might be like, hey, you can give up to $2 million away, but if they don't, they don't get to keep it, right? So basically, it's on us to go take advantage of what is available to us. And it was fascinating to listen to him talk about the different reasons that someone might want to go get a talk to these organizations and go through the process. He emphasized that, well, yeah, there, and this stuff is already funded. It's already paid for. He advised the to seek out free government and nonprofit resources directly, rather than relying on standard search engines like Google, specifically, because they don't actually do SEO, or they're gated searches, you can't actually search them with outside search engines like Google. Right? And so basically, he gave us examples like findhelp.org which is amazing. It's about local finding local help for things like food, housing, health, money.Lesley Logan 27:04  That, right there is so amazing how many people are struggling to afford groceries right now. Like, maybe, maybe you're not someone who is it, but maybe someone you know is. You can send them that information. Brad Crowell 27:15  findhelp.org you know, and there will be links in the show notes. So there's more links in the show notes. Lesley Logan 27:22  So many. Brad Crowell 27:22  Yeah. He talked about the SBA. He talked about Apex Accelerators, which I've never heard of before. He talked about career and job training. Lesley Logan 27:30  Oh, and turn your VPNs off, y'all. Brad Crowell 27:31  Yeah, yeah. They're, you know, if they're a government side, it might have trouble if you have a VPN on. He talked about HUD, which is like another United States government, housing urban development, and he said, there's free financial and debt counseling, right? And they can help you get out of debt.Lesley Logan 27:48  I mean, I had no idea, because, like so many of my friends and everyone had, like, use those companies that can, like, you know, supposedly help, but it could affect your credit at the same time. Like, who? Who knew if you use the government agency, maybe it would have been different.Brad Crowell 28:02  I wish I had known when I when I had a failed business. It would have been really helpful. Wish I had known. So anyway, what about you? I mean, all those things and there's still more. Lesley Logan 28:11  Okay, so we said it already. We're gonna say it again, because it's a Be It Action Item. Once you find a resource, book an appointment, okay? Matthew said, everybody just wants to fill out on application online, and wait for the money. You can't do that, he said, because you don't know. Brad Crowell 28:23  What did everybody wants to say what? Lesley Logan 28:23  Everybody wants to just fill out the applications online. Like, you know, like, oh, let me just do it online. It's just copy paste, copy paste. And he's saying, don't do that, because you don't know how the application should be filled out. And, like, there's always the little nuances, right? Like, we're currently working with lawyers who are filling out legal forms for us to go to Canada. So if we had done it ourselves, we wouldn't know the insight and the nuances to like, oh, actually, put this instead of that, because this will get you across. And that is actually going to be like, we have enough of those. So like, you want to make sure that you're working with someone who's like, fighting for you to fill it out correctly will tell you what certain things mean. I mean, sometimes I don't even know. It's like, you're like, oh, I think that's where I put my business name, and it's not, it's where you put your account number or something like that. So, you know, just work with the people. They're in the office I'm talking, I'm sure it'll brighten their day to hear what you're working on, right, what you need help with. Also, they often know the other people in the area, the community, the other resources to help you, right, like, oh, if I'm not the right resource, this person is, if you're starting a business or a nonprofit or side hustle, the smartest move is to call your local SBA office and speak with a counselor. Again, not something online, not a chatGPT. You gotta go and talk to someone. And then he also said, talk to experts who.Brad Crowell 29:42  SBA stands for Small Business Administration, right? So that's a federal government thing, but they have local offices around the country, so you can actually go in and make an appointment to to their office. In fact, also too, not that I'm like, a huge fan of the big banks, but big banks actually often have training programs for business owners, too.Lesley Logan 30:02  Yes, but we're not fans of big banks because they won't help you get an SBA.Brad Crowell 30:05  Almost never will they help you get a loan. But, you know, there are resources available there too, but the SBA is actually, like, trying to help you get the money. Lesley Logan 30:13  Yeah, I would fuck the big banks.Brad Crowell 30:17  If the big banks, like, honestly, the SBA doesn't let you apply for SBA funding directly through the SBA. You have to apply through a bank. You don't necessarily need to apply through a big bank, though. So that's the difference there.Lesley Logan 30:30  Right. So, and then also make sure you have the experts who can help you, help people like you, guide you to the right programs and the paperwork, and they usually do this for free. And you know, he's someone who loves to help people. So, like, there's, there's things out there. You're not on your own. Your friends and family might not be the best people to ask, but, you know what? Go to these offices and go, oh, they can't help you. Do you know who? Do you know who will, who can? Like, what else should I search? What should I be searching? Because I get the right thing. Like, they'll, they'll even, even at the DMV people help me, if you just ask the right questions and you're really nice. So trust me, people want to help people. Brad Crowell 30:34  Yeah, it's true. It's true. Well, what a wealth of information. Also, he has like, here's like, books that are like, $20 so, like, even if you're, you know, look, if you're looking for more and you, you know, want to check out his resources. He has that community. The community he built is like people trying to help people find the right stuff. So, I mean, it's just curious. It's just fascinating.Lesley Logan 31:29  Sounds super positive. Brad Crowell 31:30  It sounds really positive, yeah. Lesley Logan 31:31  Yeah. Who doesn't need that in their life? Anyways, share this with a friend who needs to hear it. Brad Crowell 31:36  Share it. Send it.Lesley Logan 31:37  This is the episode to share. There's so much in there for people, everybody.Brad Crowell 31:41  Episode 545, y'all, share it. Lesley Logan 31:43  545Brad Crowell 31:44  545Lesley Logan 31:44  I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 31:45  And I'm Brad Crowell. Thanks so much for being here. Lesley Logan 31:48  Oh, okay, you totally did. Show. We already said to share this. So now, go Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 31:55  Bye for now.Lesley Logan 31:57  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. 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We often treat money as the finish line. We chase it, measure ourselves by it, and let it shape our choices. But in doing so, we lose sight of the real question: What are we trading our money for—and is it making us truly flourish?As we live in a world that often celebrates achievement, it's easy to build wealth while unintentionally bankrupting other parts of our lives, such as our time, our energy, and our relationships. In this episode of the Happiness Squad Podcast, Ashish Kothari sits down with Tom Shepard to unpack the frameworks and habits that can transform how you relate to money, not just to grow your wealth, but to help you flourish.Tom Shepard is the Founder and CEO of Shepard Financial and author of Money Isn't Everything, Everything Is Money. With over two decades of experience, Tom brings a human-centered approach to financial planning, helping individuals align their money with what truly matters. His book introduces the Seven Financial Natures framework—a practical guide to transforming your relationship with money by valuing not just wealth, but also time, energy, and connection.Many of us follow money patterns inherited from the past, without ever pausing to ask if they align with the future we hope to create. That's why even though we live a life that looks "successful," it doesn't really feel fulfilling.Today, you can change that. Tune in to learn how to stop letting money control your story, and start using it to write a more fulfilling one.Resources:• Money Isn't Everything, Everything Is Money: https://tomshepardeverythingismoney.com • Shepard Financial's website: https://www.shepard-financial.com• Currency Camp: https://www.currencycamp.com/ Books:• Money Isn't Everything, Everything Is Money: A Personalized Approach to Valuing and Trading Time, Energy, Relationships and Money by Tom Shepard : https://a.co/d/h69psqf • The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks: https://a.co/d/5FBeEpE • Hardwired for Happiness by Ashish Kothari: https://a.co/d/8Lj9uZy

Welcome to the Essential You podcast, where executive coach Mark Mathia guides listeners in discovering their true potential. In this episode, Mark delves into the concept of upper limits, those invisible barriers we set on our joy, success, and love. Drawing insights from Gay Hendricks' book, The Big Leap, Mark explores why we self-sabotage through these barriers and how they keep us from fulfilling our dreams. Listeners will learn how to identify and break free from their upper limits to tap into their zone of genius. Mark shares personal experiences and actionable techniques, including the Ultimate Success Mantra, savoring positive feelings, and practicing Einstein time, to help individuals elevate their lives. Tune in to uncover how you can expand in abundance, success, and love and inspire those around you to do the same.

Most women don't realize how uncomfortable they are with feeling good—until things start going too well. That's when the sabotage creeps in. A snappy comment. A skipped workout. An unnecessary glass of wine. In today's episode, Colleen breaks down the concept of the “upper limit problem” from The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks—and explains how perfectionists and people-pleasers unknowingly block joy, ease, and success by clinging to struggle. You'll learn how your emotional thermostat gets set in childhood, why guilt and discomfort with pleasure keep you stuck, and how to reset your internal baseline so peace and happiness stop feeling unsafe. This episode is a powerful reminder that you don't have to earn your joy. You just have to stop arguing for your limitations.  

In today's MasterMind, Rachel Hollis delves into the complexities of relationships, intimacy, and emotional connections in this insightful episode. Featuring guests like Emily Nagoski, Emily Morse, and relationship psychologists Katie and Gay Hendricks, the episode explores the science of desire, the importance of emotional safety, and practical advice for enhancing communication and pleasure in relationships.Get your copy of Rachel's New Book Here: Audible, Amazon, Barnes & Noble, Books-A-Millon, Bookshop.org, or wherever books are sold!00:25 Welcome and Subscribe!01:19 Diving into Relationships02:51 Understanding Sexual Desire04:29 The Dual Control Mechanism09:22 Navigating Relationship Challenges15:32 Exploring Sexual Myths20:09 Prioritizing Pleasure22:37 Balancing Intimacy with Parenthood23:10 Scheduling and Prioritizing Sex24:43 Understanding Sexual Health and Desire26:49 The Role of Honesty in Relationships31:06 Meeting and Recognizing True Connection38:11 The Power of Responsibility and CreativitySign up for Rachel's weekly email: https://msrachelhollis.com/insider/Call the podcast hotline and leave a voicemail! Call (737) 400-4626Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/RachelHollisMotivation/videosFollow along on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/MsRachelHollisTo learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices.

Two years ago, Gay and Mike sat down and recorded an incredible podcast with their dear friend, Arielle Ford, about her debut novel “The Love Thief”. It was such a deeply insightful and moving episode – they decided to share it again. Why the 'revisit'?Well, because Arielle's novel, The Love Thief, has been scooped up and re-released by Hay House! This romantic, spiritual thriller—part love story, part transformational journey—now comes with a brand-new cover, a soul-stirring audiobook, and some seriously juicy preorder bonuses.In this episode, Arielle, Mike, and Gay dive into the real-life inspiration behind the story, the spiritual teachings woven through the plot (think Eat, Pray, Love meets Dirty John), and why heartbreak can be the gateway to healing.See, Arielle is one of the world's leading experts on love, relationships and the greatest manifester Mike has ever known. She's written numerous bestselling non-fiction books like “The Soulmate Secret” and “Turn Your Mate Into Your Soulmate,” but this is her first foray into fiction - and what an adventure it's been!And in this episode, Arielle takes Gay and Mike behind the scenes of how this book came to be.It all started with a crazy idea from her husband, Brian, involving aliens and operatic singing! But soon, the characters began “talking” to Arielle, almost driving her crazy. She found herself acting insecure for the first time in her career, constantly seeking reassurance from friends about her writing.Eventually, Arielle surrendered to the muse and let this wild story download through her. The result is a juicy tale of love, betrayal, spiritual awakening, and sweet revenge. Part Eat, Pray, Love, and part Dirty John, Arielle calls it "a romantic, spiritual thriller with a surprise happy ending."Mike won't give away all the details, but let's just say one of the characters was inspired by HIM! (It won't be hard to figure it out.)Mike and Gay were fascinated and inspired to hear about Arielle's creative process. Even though writing this novel was torture at times, she learned a ton about herself along the way.And you have to hear her vision for the audiobook (something she hopes to turn into a Grammy-winning production). Just like her manifesting powers, Arielle's imagination knows no bounds!Whether you're an aspiring writer, novel lover, spiritual seeker, or just a fan of Arielle's work, Mike highly recommends giving this interview a listen. Arielle's joy is contagious. He knows you'll be inspired.The Love Thief is for anyone who's loved, lost, raged, and risen. It's a story of revenge, redemption, and rediscovering your worth.You'll laugh, cry, and maybe even book a flight to Rishikesh.Key Takeaways(04:09) Arielle never wanted to write a novel and how it came about(09:31) The moment Arielle thought she was schizophrenia because characters started “talking” to her(13:19) The process of writing the book(23:09) Her dream for the audio book and winning a Grammy!(34:46) The spiritual practice of channeling characters and storytelling(45:05) Who is the perfect buyer of this book?Praise for The Love Thief“A spiritual love story that leaves you gasping with all the feels… A must-read.”— Sheri Salata, former Executive Producer of The Oprah Show“An emotional ride through betrayal, healing, and rediscovery. Well done,Arielle!”— Iyanla Vanzant“So satisfying you'll want a hypothetical cigarette.”— Natalie Ledwell, bestselling authorBONUS ALERT: With your purchase of The Love Thief, you'll get access to The Healing the Heart Yoga Series, featuring 10 world-renowned yoga teachers including Seane Corn—designed to help you release heartbreak and restore wholeness.Order your copy + claim your bonuses now: Get Arielle's New Book, “The Love Thief” and your bonus content here: http://www.thelovethief.comAdditional ResourcesJoin The Big Leap Experience! http://www.bigleappodcast.com/Apply

It's time for some real and raw behind-the-scenes sharing. In this personal episode, I'm opening up about important shifts happening in my work and why I'm choosing to honor what feels authentic rather than what I think I "should" be doing.Big Announcement: Shifting to Biweekly EpisodesAfter almost three and a half years of weekly episodes, I'm transitioning to biweekly releases. This isn't coming from lack, but from a deeper desire to walk my talk. I've been feeling like I "should" post every week, and that energy doesn't align with surrendering to what feels right in each moment.This shift gives you more time to integrate and reflects my belief that less is more. Interestingly, I originally committed to biweekly episodes when I started - so this feels like returning to my authentic intention.The True Sidereal JourneyI'm sharing my shift from tropical to true sidereal calculations in human design and astrology. Traditional human design uses tropical astrology, which shows where celestial bodies appeared about 2,000 years ago. Due to the precession of the equinoxes, there's been a gradual shift over time - almost a whole sign difference now.When I look at the actual sky, it doesn't match what tropical astrology says is there. I always thought my sun sign was Aquarius, but in the real sky when I was born, it was in Capricorn - and this feels much more accurate.What This MeansThe shift to true sidereal calculations has been profound. It's like getting a chiropractic adjustment - suddenly everything fits better. What's fascinating is that human design already acknowledges this through Global Cycles, yet personal charts still use the old tropical system.Exciting Updates ComingI'm collaborating with Body Graph to create a reliable way for people to pull true sidereal human design charts. We're in testing phase, and it should be available in the next 2-3 months. This process has taken longer than expected, but I trust the universe is putting the right people together at the right time.The Big Leap Year JourneySince January, I've been sharing daily videos on YouTube going through Gay Hendricks' "Your Big Leap Year" book. This practice of focusing on my zone of genius directly connects to shifting to biweekly episodes - letting go of anything that feels like a "should."This episode is perfect for anyone following my work, curious about true sidereal astrology, or needing permission to trust their own timing and make authentic changes rather than expected ones.Get your comprehensive True Sidereal Astrology Report for 50% off HERE.Follow my Big Leap Your Journey HERE on YouTube.How to work & connect with Analena:Book a 1-on-1 True Sidereal Human Design or Gene Keys Reading to expand into your Genius: https://calendly.com/analenafuchs/Analena's Website: https://www.analenafuchs.comAnalena's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/analena.fuchs/#HumanDesign #GeneKeys #TrueSidereal #ZoneofGenius

How do we keep working when tragedy shakes our lives? If seismic events disrupt our foundations, is it possible to build something new with confidence?For Ellie Scarf, suffering a heartbreaking loss led to profound changes that have moved her from her zone of excellence into her zone of genius, where she draws upon her experiences to offer her coaching clients an approach and a service that is uniquely her own.In this episode of The Coach's Journey Podcast, Ellie recounts the steps that took her from working as a lawyer in top tier legal firms to becoming a national sales coach for a billion dollar company. She describes how her coaching work was in the midst of a booming resurgence after the COVID-19 pandemic when tragedy struck.In conversation with host Ruth Saville, Ellie explains how she integrated her profound emotional experiences into a new way of working, turning her pain into a point of connection that deepened her client relationships.Now, alongside the client work that brings her joy every day, she also runs the Corporate To Coach Accelerator, building foundations for people on the runway to launching a business, and supporting coaches who are pivoting to leverage their skills in new ways. She is also CEO of Lucent Global coaching consultancy, which supports leaders and companies through significant periods of transition.She also has her own podcast, The Business of Executive Coaching Podcast, where she is just as inspiring a host as she is a guest in this episode.In this episode, Ellie and Ruth also talk about:· A brilliant strategy to solve the problem of building business development into your schedule· How to meet your clients where they're at on their particular developmental journey· What happens when non-directive coaching comes into conflict with a knowledge gap· How many coaching programmes selling quick pathways to success prey on people's fearsEllie also shares one crucial tip for anyone coach who is struggling to bring in business at the moment, offering a tried and tested way to make progress during lean times.Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):- Tony Grant https://www.sydney.edu.au/science/news-and-events/news/2020/02/07/vale-professor-anthony-grant.html- Dr. Suzy Green https://instituteofcoaching.org/suzy-green- Masters course in Coaching Psychology at the University of Sydney https://www.sydney.edu.au/handbooks/science-pg/coursework/psychology-coaching.html#:~:text=The%20Master%20of%20Science%20in,working%20with%20non%2Dclinical%20populations.- The Positivity Institute https://thepositivityinstitute.com.au/- The Positivity Prescription https://thepositivityinstitute.com.au/product/the-positivity-prescription/- Dr. Susanne Cook-Greuter https://instituteofcoaching.org/author/cook-greuter-susanne- Robert Kegan's theory of adult development https://aliveandthriving.substack.com/p/kegans-theory-of-development-framework- Bill Torbert's development theory https://developingleadership.net/bill-torbert- The GROW model https://www.performanceconsultants.com/resources/the-grow-model- The House of Change model https://www.thevirtualtrainingteam.com/articles/change-management-models-the-change-house/- Dr. Louise Kovacs https://au.linkedin.com/in/louise-kovacs-9ba55a- Myers Briggs overview https://www.myersbriggs.org/my-mbti-personality-type/myers-briggs-overview/- Dr. Saba Hasanie https://www.linkedin.com/in/saba-hasanie-dprof-mcc-icf-1747572?originalSubdomain=sg- The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks https://www.harpercollins.com/products/the-big-leap-gay-hendricks?variant=32205677625378- Lucent Global https://www.lucentorg.com/about- Corporate to Coach Accelerator https://www.elliescarf.com/cca- The Coaching Business Flywheel https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel- Ellie's podcast episode on metrics for coaches https://www.elliescarf.com/podcasts/the-business-of-executive-coaching/episodes/2148566834- Tim Ferriss' billboard question https://medium.com/@podclips/the-top-25-answers-to-tim-ferriss-famous-billboard-question-3f19fba1a49c- The upper limit problem https://melodywilding.com/are-you-unconsciously-afraid-of-being-happy-why-we-self-sabotage-with-the-upper-limit-problem/

What if wealth wasn't a number in your bank account, but an emotion you could embody right now? I'm giving you a behind the scenes look at my evolving relationship with money and sharing the unexpected truths I've uncovered about what it really means to feel wealthy. For years, I chased the numbers, the income goals, and the business milestones. And yet, I still didn't feel wealthy. Spoiler alert: It's not about the 6-figure milestones or some dream income goal. It's about what wealth symbolizes for you: freedom, peace, safety, self-worth, and how to unlock that feeling.  Because wealth isn't a reflection of how much money you actually have. There are people who feel abundant with $5,000, and there are people who feel scarcity with $1 million. Why is that? If you've ever felt like you're “doing everything right” financially but still feel stuck, anxious, or behind, this episode will meet you right where you are and challenge you to redefine what wealth really means for you. This is one of the many topics we'll go deep on inside of Euphoric the Club, my brand-new membership for successful, alcohol-free women. Join me and other high-achieving women for $59 per month!   IN THIS EPISODE: The radical way to feel rich right now, no matter what's in your wallet (and how to interrupt your scarcity loop) Why wealth is less about digits on a screen and more about self-worth, freedom, and giving yourself permission to take up space The inside scoop on Euphoric the Club, where emotional wealth, community, and somatic rituals combine to help you embody abundance every single day What would you do differently in your morning routine if you had $10 million in the bank? Rush less? Appreciate more? Be more present? How to break through the Upper Limit (for more, listen to my episode with Gay Hendricks!)   LINKS/RESOURCES MENTIONED Listen to Episode 167 about the money mindset for AF women and Episode 273 with Gay and Katie Hendricks about the Upper Limit. Read Creating Money by Sanaya Roman and Duane Packer (and for more book recommendations on this topic, DM me on Instagram!) Euphoric the Club is the ultimate alcohol-free space for successful women who don't drink (and the women who are becoming them)! Imagine 365 days of nourishing the alcohol-free body, mind, and soul that fuels your dreams, with soft girl wellness challenges and trainings with me to remember how powerful and limitless you are. When you join for only $59 a month, you'll get access to over 170 classes. Awarded the most empowering book in the sober curious genre, be sure to get your copy of Euphoric: Ditch Alcohol and Gain a Happier, More Confident You today and leave your review.  Follow @euphoric.af on Instagram. And as always, rate, review, and subscribe so we can continue spreading our message far and wide.

In this vulnerable and refreshingly honest episode, I'm sharing something that might surprise some of you: I've started working a 9-5 corporate job! After five years of running my online business, I've made a significant life change that I'm actually incredibly excited about.I dive deep into my journey as an online entrepreneur - from the highs of location freedom and six-figure years to the challenging reality of feeling disconnected from my work despite outward success. I explore that uncomfortable space of "being unhappy in a business that everyone else is impressed with" and how I tried everything to fall in love with my business again.During our trip to Italy earlier this year, sitting in our dream Airbnb with a hot tub on the balcony overlooking Puglia, I had the stark realization: "What am I doing with my life?" Despite achieving the freedom lifestyle I thought I wanted, something fundamental was missing.I share the exact moment when I finally stopped ignoring my intuition and decided to explore a new path. You'll hear about my job search process (with zero corporate experience!), how I found a sales role that perfectly matches my skills, and how I'm navigating this major transition.For those wondering - no, I'm not shutting down my business! I'm currently balancing both, working about 10-15 hours per week on client projects alongside my full-time job. This episode is for anyone questioning if they're on the right path, feeling stuck in their zone of excellence instead of their zone of genius, or curious about transitioning from full-time entrepreneurship to corporate life.Remember to tune into your intuition - sometimes the right path doesn't make sense on paper, but feels completely right when you follow it.Resources from this episode:Book recommendation: "The Big Leap" by Gay Hendricks (exploring the concept of zone of genius vs. zone of excellence)Connect with Sam:Website: https://www.systemswithsam.com/services Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/systemswithsam/ ​​LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samwhiz/

Do you ever feel like things are going too well and then something pulls you back down? In this episode, Chris and I talk about a concept from one of my ultimate favorite books, The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks. We dive deep into how we've both experienced self-sabotage after hitting new levels of success, and the subtle ways it shows up. I share how I caught myself spiraling on a rare day off, and what I did to shift my focus and break the cycle.  Check out our Sponsors: Brevo - Meet the all-in-one marketing and CRM platform for your business. Get started free or save 50% for 3 months with code HAPPY at brevo.com/happy Airbnb - Start making money by listing your home on Airbnb with an experienced Co-host, find a co-host at airbnb.com/host Shopify - Try the ecommerce platform I trust for Glōci, Sign up for your $1/month trial period at shopify.com/happy The RealReal - Buy and sell luxury clothing, bags, and more on The RealReal. Get $25 off your first purchase when you go to therealreal.com/happy HIGHLIGHTS The glōci ingredient that supports your energy and digestion. The subtle ways we self-sabotage when things feel too good. What the “Upper Limit Problem” really is. How success triggers procrastination, guilt, fights, or illness. The mindset tool I used 30+ times in a single day to stop spiraling. RESOURCES Join the most supportive mastermind on the internet HERE! Check out our FREE 90-Day Business Blueprint HERE! Listen to my free SECRET PODCASTS SERIES - Operation: Rekindle This B*tch Get glōci HERE Use code: HAPPY at checkout for 25% off! FOLLOW Follow me: @loriharder Follow Chris: @chriswharder Follow glōci: @getgloci

Ever wondered how to unleash your inner genius and transform your life? This innate desire to tap into our fullest potential often leads us on a journey of self-discovery, where we explore the depths of our abilities and aspirations. Renowned psychologist and personal development guru Gay Hendricks has dedicated much of his work to addressing precisely this question. Through his insightful teachings and the concept of the “Zone of Genius,” he guides individuals on a journey of self-discovery and empowerment. He believes that within each person lies a unique set of talents, passions, and abilities.  In this episode of The Greatness Machine, Gay joins Darius to talk about his enlightening journey, reminiscing an “out of Hendricks” moment triggered by an unexpected fall on ice. Gay candidly discusses his personal struggles with obesity, emphasizing the profound impact of conscious food choices on one's transformation.  The conversation unravels the intricacies of identifying and transforming limiting beliefs, highlighting the pivotal role of openness to learning. Gay also offers insights into cultivating genius and finding your unique “genius zone,” a place where passion and contribution intersect.  Topics include: Gay looks back experiencing “out of Hendricks” moment after a fall on ice Gay opens up about his personal struggles with obesity The importance of choosing actions that align with a deeper sense of consciousness Gay underlines the transformative power of conscious food choices Family influence on body image and shame Gay shares a method of replacing shame with positive affirmations Family influence and overcoming past conditions Identifying and transforming limiting beliefs The significance of being open to learning Cultivating genius and finding your “genius zone” Gay details his upcoming book Your Big Leap Year And other topics… Sponsored by: Brevo: Get started free or save 50% for 3 months with code GREATNESS at brevo.com/greatness.  Huel: Try Huel with 15% OFF + Free Gift for New Customers today using my code greatness at https://huel.com/greatness. Fuel your best performance with Huel today!  Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/DARIUS. Notion: Get Notion Mail for free right now at notion.com/machine.  ShipStation: Go to shipstation.com and use code GREATNESS to sign up for your FREE trial.  Shopify: Sign up for a $1/month trial period at shopify.com/darius.  Connect with Gay: Website: https://hendricks.com/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gay-hendricks-195a90  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hendricks.gay/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/gayhendricks/  Connect with Darius: Website: https://therealdarius.com/ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dariusmirshahzadeh/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/whoompdarius/ YouTube: https://therealdarius.com/youtube Book: The Core Value Equation https://www.amazon.com/Core-Value-Equation-Framework-Limitless/dp/1544506708 Write a review for The Greatness Machine using this link: https://ratethispodcast.com/spreadinggreatness.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode, we're tapping into the kind of wisdom that only comes with experience—but lucky for us, we don't have to wait decades to access it. Inspired by the life philosophies of Gay Hendricks, Anne Lamott, Dr. Edith Eger, and John Maxwell, we'll explore powerful truths about love, loss, leadership, forgiveness, and living in alignment. Whether you're navigating a new chapter or simply craving more meaning in the day-to-day, this episode is your invitation to slow down, listen deeper, and consider the advice your future self would thank you for taking today.Get your copy of Rachel's New Book Here: Audible, Amazon, Barnes & Noble, Books-A-Millon, Bookshop.org, or wherever books are sold!Featured Episodes 319: Gay Hendricks | 594: Anne Lamott | 163: Dr Edith Eger | 82: John Maxwell despite distractions and criticisms.00:00 Introduction: Embracing Criticism and Building Your Wall00:41 Welcome and Podcast Subscription Request01:34 Mastermind Series: Wisdom from Our Elders02:56 Gay Hendricks: The Upper Limit Problem14:00 Anne Lamott: Writing and Overcoming Perfectionism25:06 Dr. Edith Egger: Positive Thinking and Action26:53 Rewriting Your Script and Reclaiming Your True Self27:31 The Power of Forgiveness and Freedom28:35 Self-Love and Compassionate Listening29:44 Embracing Change and Growth33:35 The Uphill Journey to Success34:19 The Difference Between Winners and Whiners38:24 The Price of Achieving Your Dreams42:15 Overcoming Criticism and Staying Focused46:27 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsSign up for Rachel's weekly email: https://msrachelhollis.com/insider/Call the podcast hotline and leave a voicemail! Call (737) 400-4626Watch the podcast on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/RachelHollisMotivation/videosFollow along on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/MsRachelHollis To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices.

I am SO excited to welcome bestselling author and counseling psychologist, Gay Hendricks, to the show to talk about themes from two of his books, The Big Leap and Conscious Loving. Gay has been a huge inspiration for me personally and professionally, and he makes psychological concepts easy to understand.  We talk about upper limit problems (self-sabotage) first, and then move into how to create epic relationships. Throughout the conversation, Gay shares invaluable wisdom from his own life. I hope you enjoy it as much as I did! Read the show notes for today's episode at terricole.com/704