Podcasts about Clopidogrel

Kiera is joined by the tooth-healer himself, Jason Dent! Jason has an extensive background in pharmacy, and shares with Kiera where his pharmaceutical experience has bled over into dentistry. This includes the difference between anti-quag and anti-platelet and which medications are probably safe, what to do to shorten the drag time in the pharmacy, how to write prescriptions most efficiently, and more. Episode resources: Subscribe to The Dental A-Team podcast Schedule a Practice Assessment Leave us a review Transcript: The Dental A Team (00:00) Hello, Dental A Team listeners. This is Kiera and today is a really awesome and unique day. It is, think the second time I've had somebody in the podcast studio with me live for a podcast and it's the one and only Jason Dent. Jason, how are you? I'm doing well. Good morning. Thanks for having me. It is crazy. I I watch Instagram real like this all the time where people are like in the podcast and they're hanging out on two chairs and couches and now look at us. We're doing it. Cheers. Cheers.   That was a mic cheer for those of you who are only listening, but yeah, Jace, how does this feel to be on the podcast? It's weird. Like I was not nervous at all talking about it. I got really nervous as soon as you hit play. So if I stumble over my words, please forgive me ahead of time. Well, Jason, I appreciate you being on the podcast because marketing had asked me to do a topic about teledentistry and I was like, oh shoot, that's like not my forte at all. so   You and I were actually chatting in the hot tub. call it Think Tank session and you and I, we have a lot of good ideas that come from that Think Tank. A lot of business. no phones. That's why. We do leave our phones out. But I was talking to Jason and this is actually a podcast we had talked about quite a while ago. Jason has a lot of information on pharmacy. And if you don't know, Jason isn't really, we were going through all of it last night. It's kind of a mock in the tub. And I think it's going to be great because I feel like this is an area, I'm working at Midwestern and   knowing about how dentists, pharmacology was surely not your favorite one. Jason actually helps a lot of dentists with their clearances. And so we were talking about it and I like it will just be a really awesome podcast for you guys to brush up on pharmacology, different things from a pharmacist's side. So Jason, welcome. Thank you. Yeah, no, we were talking about it and here's like, what should I talk about on the podcast next? I have all these different topics and she's like, what do you know? And the only real interaction I have with dentists is doing clearances for procedures. We get them all the time, which makes sense.   Lots of people are on blood thinner, I've always told Kiera, like, hey, I could talk about that. Like, that's kind of a passion of mine. I'm not a dentist. Or my name is Jason Dent. So in Hebrew, Jason means tooth. No, no, no, sorry. Nerves are getting to me. Jason means healer and Dent means tooth. So my name means tooth healer. So, here's a little set. Hold on, on, hold Can we just talk about? I brought that up before you could talk about it more. So.   My name means tooth healer but I did not become a dentist. I know you wanted me to become a dentist. did. I don't know why. I enjoy medicine. I know what you're going to get to already. The things you're going to ask me. There's been years of this. But nevertheless, that's my name. We'll get that out of the way. But you did give me a great last name. So I mean, it's OK. You're All is fair and love here. SEO's up for that. But yeah, Jason, I'm going to get you right into the show. And I'm going to be the host. And we're going to welcome to the podcast show. Jace, how are you?   Good, good, good. Good, good, good. So by getting into clearances, right? This is what you're kinda talking about with you know, before we get to clearances, I actually wanted Jason, for the listeners who don't know you, who haven't talked to you, who don't know, let's kinda just give them like, how did you go from, Kiera wanted you to be a dentist, to now Jason, you are on the podcast talking as our expert on pharmacy. fantastic. I've always really loved medicine, a ton. As a kid getting headaches and taking Excedrin, like you just feel like a miserable pile of crap.   and then you take two pills and all of a sudden you feel better. Like that's amazing, like how does that happen? Also getting ear aches as a kid, just being in so much pain and then taking some medicine and you start feeling a lot better. I always had a lot of appreciation for that. I've always been mechanically inclined. I went to, started doing my undergrad and took biology and learned about ATP synthase, which is a spinning enzyme that's inside the mitochondria, like a turbine engine. I used to work on small engines on my dirt bike and thought that is so cool. So I really got wrapped up into chemistry.   All the mechanics of chemistry really pulled me in. I'm not getting goosebumps. checking. I usually get goosebumps when I think about chemistry. But it's so cool. You think an engine's awesome, like pistons and camshafts and pressures, the cell is the same thing. It's not as loud, so it's not as cool. But it's fascinating. that's why we're like. ⁓   chemistry and really got into coagulation. So I did my residency after pharmacy school. we went to Arizona for three years. ⁓ You did and your main focus, you were never wanting to be the guy behind the counter. No, I haven't done that. Yeah. No, I love them though. I've always really want to go clinical. ⁓ But I love my retail ⁓ pharmacists. They're amazing resources. And ⁓ I use the retail pharmacist every day still to this day, but I went more the clinical route, really love the chemistry aspect of it.   did my doctorate degree and then I did my residency in Reno. Reno's kind That's how we got here everybody. Welcome to Reno. Strategically placed because I was really interested in critical medicine and where we're located we cover a huge area. So we pull in to almost clear, we go clear to Utah, clear to California, all of Northern Nevada. We get cases from all over. So we actually are kind like the first hub of care for lot of areas. So we really get an eclectic mixture of patients that come in that need-   all kinds of different cases that are coming to them. So it's what I really wanted. So I did my residency in critical care there. And then for the next 10 years, I worked in vascular medicine with my final five years being the supervisor of the clinic. Ran all the ins and outs of that. So my providers, two doctors were on our view. So when we talk about dentistry, talk about production, those kinds of things, totally get it. My doctors were the exact same way, my vascular providers. ⁓   There's some pains there, right? You wanna be seeing patients as much as possible, being able to help as many people, keeping the billing up. And had other nurse practitioners, four practitioners, a fleet of MAs, eight pharmacists. We also had that one location we had, going off the top of my head, I think we had eight locations running as well. And we took care of all the different kinds of vascular cases that came to us. Most common was blood clots, ⁓ which is just a...   which is an easier way of saying VTE. There's so many different ways to say a blood clot. Like you might hear patients say, I've had a PE or a DVT or a venous thromboembolism or a clot in my leg, right? They're all clots, but in different locations. Same with an MI, and MI can be a clot as well. ⁓ there's a lot of, everybody's kind of saying the same thing, but sometimes the nomenclature can make it sound hard, but it really is actually pretty simple.   No. And Jason, I love that you went through, you've been in like, and even in your, ⁓ when you were getting your doctorate, you were in the ER. You also worked in retail pharmacy. remember you having a little sticker on your hand. And retail pharmacy, I have a lot of respect for those guys. They have a lot of pressure on them. and then you also, ⁓ what was that test that you had to take that? I don't know. You were like studying forever for it. ⁓ board certification for, ⁓ NABP. Yeah. So I did that board certification as well.   And now you've moved out of the hospital side onto another section in your career. Now in the insurance, right? So it's really, really interesting. So now I'm on the other side reading notes and evaluating clinical appropriateness and trying to help patients with getting coverage and making those kinds of determinations. So yeah, I've really jumped all over. Really love my clinical days. I know. don't I don't I do miss them. But yeah, kind of had a good exposure to a lot of.   pharmacy a lot a lot of dentists actually with all the places that come through which Jason I really appreciate that and honestly I know you are my spouse and so it's fun to have you on but when I go into conversations like this I don't know any of this information and so finding experts and Jason I think here's me talk more about dentistry and my business than I do hear about him on pharmacy so as we were chatting about this I really realized you are a wealth of knowledge because you've been on the clinical side so you've done a lot of patient care and you've seen how   medications interact and I know you've had a few scares in your career and ⁓ you've known some physicians that have had a few scares and ⁓ you've seen plenty of patients pass away working in the ER and gosh in Arizona drownings were such a big deal. I remember when you were in the ER on your rotations I'd be like who died today? Like tell me the stories and you've really seen and now going on to the insurance side I felt like you could just be such a good wealth of knowledge because I know dentists are sometimes so   I would say like maybe just a little more anxious when it comes to medications. I know that dental students from Midwestern were like here was like four months and we had to like pass it, learn it. And Jason, you've done four years plus clinical residency, plus you've been in it. And something I really love about Nevada Medicine is they've been so collaborative with you.   like your heart, your cardiologist, they diagnose and then they send to you to treat with medicine and... Yeah, I've been really lucky being here in Reno too. The cardiology team has been amazing to work with. We started a CHF program, sorry, congestive heart failure program for patients. So we would collaborate with cardiologists. They'd see the cardiologists and then they send them to the pharmacist to really manage all the medications. So there's pillars of therapy ⁓ called guideline directed medical therapy and the pharmacist would take care of all that. So that's gonna be your...   your beta blockers, your ACEs, your ARBs, your Entresto, which would be a little bit better, spironolactone. So just making sure that all these things are dosed appropriately, really monitoring the heart, and make sure that patients are getting better. we've had real positive outcomes when the, sorry, this is totally off topic. do, talk about that study. When we looked at when patients were coming to see our pharmacists in our clinic that we started up, the patients were half as likely to be readmitted. And this was in 2018, and our pharmacists,   We're thinking about all the medications. We're usually adjusting diabetes medications too at the same time. Just kind of naturally just taking care of all the medications because we kind of got a go ahead from the providers, a collaborative practice agreement that we could make adjustments to certain medications within certain parameters. So we weren't going rogue or maverick, but we were definitely trying to optimize our medications as much as possible. And then years later, some studies came out with, I'm sure you've seen Jardins and Farseegh. not trying to, I'm not.   I don't get any kickback from them. I have no conflicts to share. But because our pharmacists were really optimizing that medication, those medications were later shown to reduce hospitalizations and heart failure, even though they're diabetes medications. Fascinating. So it wasn't really the pharmacists. It was just the pharmacists doing as much as they can with all the tools that were in front of them. And then we found out that the patients were going back to the hospital.   half as much as regular patients. So, yeah, being here, it's been so amazing to work with providers here. the providers here want help, want to help patients, don't have an ego. I mean, I just, it's awesome. I love it. I do love how much I think Jason sees me geek out about dentistry and I watching Jay's geek about his pharmacy and how much he loves helping patients. And ⁓ really that was the whole idea of, all right.   Dentistry has pharmacy as a part of it. And I know a lot of dentists are sending in clearances and I know working in a chair side, it would be like, oh no, if they're on warfarin or on their own blood clot, you guys, honestly don't even know half of what I'm talking about because this is not my jam, which is why Jason's here. But I do know that there was always like, well, we got to talk with their provider. And so having Jason come in and just kind of explain being the pharmacist that is approving or denying or saying yes or no to take them off the blood thinners in different parts, because you have seen several dental   I don't know what they're called. What is it? Clarence's? that what comes to you? don't even know. All day my mind, it's like, here is the piece of paper that gets mailed to you to the pharmacist and then you mail it back. So whatever that is. But Chase, let's talk about it because I think you can give the dentist a lot of confidence coming from a pharmacist. What you guys see on that side. When do you actually need to approve or disapprove? Let's kind of dig into that. Yeah. Well, first of all, I think I'm not a replacement for any kind of clinical judgment whatsoever. Every patient's different. But the American Diabetes Association, you   I work with diabetes a lot. American Dental Association has some really great guidelines on blood thinners and I would always reference them. I actually looked at their website today. Make sure I'm up to speed before I get back on this again. They have resources all around making decisions for blood thinners. And I think the one real important thing in putting myself in the shoes of a dentist or any kind of staff that's around a patient that's in a chair, if they say I'm on a blood thinner, right, a flag goes up. At least in my mind, that's what goes up.   Like, okay, how do we get across this bridge? And I think the important thing to really distinct right then when they say they're on a blood thinner is that is kind of a slang word for a lot of different medications, right? Like it's the overarching word that everybody pulls up saying, I'm on a blood thinner. It's like, okay, but I don't know what say. It's like, I have a car. You're like, okay, do you have a Mazda? Do you have?   Toyota, Honda, what do you have? or even worse it'd be like saying I have a vehicle, right? So when somebody says they're on a blood thinner, it opens up a whole box of possibilities of what they're Blood thinners are also, doesn't, when they're taking these types of medications that are quote unquote a blood thinner, it doesn't actually thin the blood, like adding water to the blood, if that makes sense, or like thinning paint, or like thinning out a gravy, right? It doesn't do the same thing. Blood thinners, really what they're doing is they're working on the blood, which.   which is really cool, try not to tangent on that. ⁓ When they're working on the blood, it's not thinning it per se, but it's making it so that the proteins or platelets that are in it can't stick together and make a cloth quite as easy. So whenever somebody's on a blood thinner, I usually ask, what's the name of the blood thinner that you're on? It's not bad that they use that slang, that's okay, on the same page, but it's really broken into two different classes. There's anticoagulant and antiplatelet.   And a way to kind of remember which is which, when residents would come through our clinics, the way that I teach them is a clot is like a brick wall. You know, it's not always a brick wall. Usually the blood is a liquid going through. But once they receive some kind of chemical message, it starts making a brick wall with the mortar, which is the concrete between the and the bricks, the two parts. When it's an anti-quagent, it's working on that mortar part. When it's an anti-platelet, it's working on the bricks part, right? You need both to make a strong clot or strong brick wall.   But if you can make one of them not work, obviously like if your mortar is just water, it's not working, right? You're not gonna make a strong brick wall. So that's kind of the two deviants right there. So that's what I do in my mind real quickly to find out because antiplatelets are usually, so that's gonna be like your Plavix, Ticagrelor, Brilinta. And hold on, antiplatelets are bricks? Good job, bricks. They're the bricks. And so the reason I was thinking you could remember this because I'm, antiplatelets, it's a plate and a plate is more like a brick.   And anti coagulant, I don't know why quag feels like mortar to me, like quag, like, know, it's like slushy in the blood, like it's coagulating. It's a little bit of that, like, honestly, I'm just thinking like coagulated blood is a little bit more mortar-ish. And so platelet is your plate, like a brick, and anti-quag is like.   the gilly between the bricks. Okay, okay, I got it. Yeah, so there's an exception to every rule, but when they're on that Don't worry, this is Kiera, just like very basic. You guys are way smarter listening to this, and that's why Jason's here. No, no, you helped me pass pharmacy school. When we were doing all the top 200, you helped me memorize all know what flexorill is, all right? That's a muscle relaxant. Cyclo? I don't know that part. It's a cyclo, because you guys are cycling and flexing. I don't actually know. just know it's a muscle relaxant, so that's about as far as I got. When we're looking at antitick platelets, so that's the brick part, so that's going to be your, you know,   Hecagrelor, Breitlingta, Clopidogrel is the most common one. It's the cheapest one, so probably see that one the most. Those, I mean, there's an exception to every rule, but that's generally being used after like a stent's placed in the heart. It can be used for VTE, there's some out there, but that's pretty rare. But also for some valves that are placed in the hearts, it can be used for that as well. So antiplatelet, really thinking more like a cardiac event, right? Like I said, there's always an exception to every rule, but that's kind of where my mind goes real quickly, because we're gathering information from the patient.   They're on anticoagulant. Those are like going to be the new ones that you see commercials for all the time. So Xeralto, Alequis, those are the two big ones right now. They're replacing the older one. And also we were supposed to do a disclaimer of this is current as of today because the ADA guidelines do change. this will be current as of today. And Jason, as a pharmacist, is always looking up on that. I had no clue that you are that up to speed on dental knowledge. so just throwing it out there that if you happen to catch his podcast,   a few years back that obviously check those guidelines for sure. But the new ones are the Xarelto and Eloquist. They're replacing the older ones of warfarin. Warfarin's been around for a really long time. We've seen that one. Those are anti-coagulants. So when you're looking, when a patient says that, generally they're on that medication because they've possibly had a clot in the past or they have a heart condition called atrial fibrillation. Those are kind of the two big ones. Like I said, there's always caveats to it, but that's kind of where my mind goes real quickly. And then,   as far as getting patients cleared, the American Dental Association has really good resources on their website. You can look at those and they're always refreshing that up. They even say in their own words that there's limited data around studying patients in the dental chair and with anticoagulants or anti-platelets. It's pretty limited. There's a few studies, some from 2015, some from 2018. There's one as recent as 2021, which is nice. But really, all of those studies come together and it's really more of an expert consensus.   And with that expert consensus, they have kind of simplified things for dentistry, which is really nice. ⁓ comparing that to, we have more data for like total hip replacement, total knee replacement. We have a lot of data and we know really what we should be doing around then. But going back to dentistry, we don't have as much information, so they always say use clinical judgment, but they do give some really great expert guidance on that. So if a patient's on an anticoagulant, ⁓   they generally recommend that it doesn't need to be stopped unless there's a high bleeding risk for a patient. as a provider or as a clinician in the practice, you can be looking at high bleeding risk. Some things that make an oral procedure a little bit lower risk is one, it's in the compressible site, right? Like we can actually put pressure on that site. That's the number one way to stop bleeding is adding pressure. It's not like it's in the abdominal cavity where we can't get in and can't apply pressure. So number one, that kind of reduces the bleeding risk.   is number one. Two, we can add topical hemostatic agents. Dentists would know that better than me. There's a lot of topical ways to do that. So not only pressure, but there's those things as well. And also, but there are some procedures that are a little bit more likely to bleed. And that's where you and dentists would come in hand in What's the word in APO? Oh, the APOectomy. I got it right. Good job. like, didn't you tell me last night that the ADA guideline was like what?   three or four or more teeth? great question. So you can extract one to three teeth is what their expert consensus One to three teeth without. Without really managing or stopping anticoagulation or doing anything like that. I think that's some good guidance from them. I'm gonna add a Jasonism on that though. So with warfarin, I do see why dentists would be a little bit more conservative or worried about stopping the warfarin because warfarin isn't as stable as these newer agents. Warfarin, the levels.   quote unquote levels can go really high, they can go really low. And if the warfarin levels are high, they're more likely to bleed. So I do think it makes sense to have a really recent INR. That's how we measure what the warfarin's doing. I think that makes a lot of sense, but the ADA guidelines really go into the simplification version of all these blood thinners. Generally, it's recommended to not stop them because the risk of stopping them outweighs the benefit of stopping them in almost every case. Almost every case.   ⁓ So when you're with that patient, right, they say I'm on a blood thinner, finding out which kind of blood thinner that they're on, you find out that they're on Xeralto, right? How long have you been on Xeralto for? I've been on it for years. You don't know exactly why, but if they haven't had any recent bleeding, you're only gonna remove one tooth. ⁓ You can do what's called a HasBlood score. That kind of looks at the bleeding risk that they'd have. That'd be kind of going a notch above, but in my mind, removing one tooth isn't a real serious bleeding risk. I'd love to hear from my dentist friends if they...   disagree, right, but ADA says one to three tooth removals, extractions, that's the fancy word. Extractions, yeah, for extracting teeth out. Is not really that invasive. Sure. It's not that high risk, so it's usually perfectly fine. So if a patient was on Xarelto, ⁓ no other, this is in a vacuum, right? I'm not looking at any other factors, which you should be looking at other factors. I would be perfectly fine to just remove one to two.   And when those clearances come in, because dentists do send them, talk about what happens. You guys were working in the hospital and you guys would get these clearances all the time. do. We get them so often. I mean, we get like four or five a day. We'd love to give it to our students, student pharmacists, and ask them what to do. And they would usually look up the American Dental Association guidelines and come up with something. We're like, yep, that's what we say too. In fact, we say it so many times a day that we have a smart phrase.   which just blows in the information real quickly and faxes it right back to the So it's like a copy paste real quick. So what I wanted to point out when Jason told me this is dentists like hearing this and learning this, this can actually save you guys a ton of time to be able to be more confident, to not need to send those clearances on. And we were actually talking last night about how I think this might be a CYA for dentists. like, as we were talking, I think Jason, you seeing so many other aspects of medicine, like you've literally seen patients die, you've seen other areas.   And so coming from that clinical vantage point, we were realizing that dentists, we are so blessed to live in an injury. I enjoy dentistry because possibly there's someone dying, not super high, luckily in dentistry. The only time that I have actually had a doctor have a patient pass away, and it was only when they were completely sedated and doing ⁓ some other things, but that was under the care of an anesthesiologist. And so that's really our high, high risk. And so hearing this, Jason,   That was one of the reasons I wanted him to come on is to give you doctors more confidence of do we have to always send to a pharmacist? I mean, hearing that on the pharmacy side, they're just sending these back and not to say to not see why a to not cover this because you might be questioning like, well, do I really need to? But you also were talking about some other ways of so number one, you guys are just going to copy back the 88 guidelines. So so 88 guidelines. Yeah. And I think that that gives a lot of confidence to a provider or a dentist is that you can go to the 88 guidelines and read them, right? Like you're listening to some   nasally monotone pharmacist on a podcast. Rumor has it, people love him at the hospital. were like, you're the voice, he's been told he has a good radio So for the clinic, I was the voice. Like, yeah, you've reached the vascular clinic, right? And they're like, oh my gosh, you're the voice. But sorry, you me distracted. That'll be your next career, Jace. You're going to be a radio host. OK. I would love that. I love music. But you're hearing from a nasally guy, but you can actually read the ADA guidelines. You just go right to the ADA, click on Resources, and under Resources, it has the   around anticoagulants, I think that's the best way to get a lot of confidence about it because they have dentists who are the experts making calls on these. I'm just reiterating what they say, but I think it makes a lot of sense to help providers. And the reason why my heart goes out to you as well is having the providers that used to work underneath me, they're always looking for our views, which is a fancy way of making sure that they're drilling and filling. Can I say that? Yeah, can say drilling and filling. They're being productive, right? They're being productive, right?   They're always looking to make sure if a patient's canceling, like get somebody in here. Like I need to be helping people all day long. That's how I, we keep the lights on. That's how I help as many people. And so if you have a patient coming in the chair and it has an issue, they say I'm on Xeralto. Well, you can ask real quickly, why are you on Xeralto? I had a clot 10 years ago. my gosh. Well, yeah, we're pretty good to go. Then I'm not worried. We're only removing one tooth or we're just doing a cavity or a cleaning. Something like that. Shouldn't be an issue whatsoever because there's experts in the dental. ⁓   in the dental society, the ADA guidelines that recommend three teeth or less, minimally invasive. They really recommend if it's gonna be really high bleeding risk. And clinically, that's where you would come in, ⁓ or yourself. know, apioectomy is one that's like on the fence line. I don't know where implants set. though, and like we were talking, implants aren't usually like a date of procedure. Most people aren't popping in, having tooth pain, and we're like, let's do an implant. Now sometimes that can be the case, but typically that one's gonna have   a few other pieces involved. And so that is where you can get a clearance if you want to. ⁓ But we were really looking at this of like so many dentists that I know that you've seen will just send in these clearances because they are. And I think maybe a way to help dentists have more confidence is because you know, I love routines. I love to not have to remember things. So why don't we throw it in, have the team member set it up where every quarter we just double check the ADA guidelines. Are there any updates? Are there any other things that we need to do on that? That way you can just see like   getting into the language of this, of what do I need to do? Because honestly, you guys, know pharmacy was not a big portion for it, so, recommending different parts, but I think this is such a space where you can have confidence, and there's a few other things I wanna get to, and I you- I some pearls too. Okay, go. I'm so when she get me into talking about drugs, I'm not gonna stop. So, some other things around that too is these newer blood thinners like Xarelto Eloquist, they now have reversal agents, so a lot of providers in the past were really worried about bleeding because we can't turn it off. We can turn those off. Warfarin has reversal as well, right?   So I'm looking at these patients. It's really low risk. It's in the mouth, generally speaking. Very rarely are they a high bleeding risk. Now if you're doing maxillofacial surgery, this does not apply, right? This does not apply whatsoever. you're like general dentist, you're pediatric dentist. Yeah, yeah, and it's kind of on the fly. So just trying to really help you to be able to take care of those patients on the moment, have that confidence, look at the ADA guidelines, have that in front of you. I don't think it's a bad thing to ever...   check with their provider if you need to. If you're thinking, I feel like I should just check with the provider, I would never take that away from you. But I just want to kind of steer towards those guidelines that I have to help. But what did you want to share? No, yeah, I love that. And I think there were just a few other nuggets that we were chatting about last night that can help dentists just kind of get things passed a little bit easier. So you were mentioning that if they were named to their cardiologist, what was it? was like, who is the last? Great question. Yeah, when a patient's on a blood thinner,   It could be prescribed by the cardiologist. It could be prescribed by the family provider or could have been punted to like a vascular clinic like where I was working. It can go to any of those. And when you send that fax, right, if it goes to the cardiologist and it's supposed to go to the family care provider, like it just kind of goes, goes nowhere, right, from there. So I think it's a really good idea to find out who prescribed it last. If the patient doesn't know who prescribed their blood thinner last, you can call their pharmacy. I call pharmacies all day long.   I have noticed in the last year, they are way easier to get a hold of, which has made my job a lot easier, working on the insurance portion. So reaching out to the pharmacy, finding out who that provider is and sending it to them, because they should be able to help with that. I thought that was a good shift in verbiage that you had of asking instead of like the cardiologist, because that's who you would assume was the one. But you said like so many times you guys would take care of them, and then they go back to family practitioner, and you guys would get the clearances, but you couldn't clear because you weren't overseeing. So just asking the patient.   who prescribed their medication for them last time. That way you can send the clearance to the correct provider. then- And they might not know. You know patients, right? They're like, I don't know, my mom's or else, I don't know who gave it to me. Somebody told me I need to be on this. But at least that could be another quick thing. And then also we were talking last night about-   ⁓ What are some other things that dentists can do when like writing scripts to help them get what I think like overarching theme of everything we discussed is one how to help dentists have less I think drag through pharmacy. ⁓ Because pharmacy can take a little while and so perfect we now know the difference between anti-quag and anti-platelet. We know which medications are probably safe. We know we can check the ADA guidelines so that we were not having to do as many clearances. We also know if they're on a medication to find out and we do need a clearance.   who we can go to for the fastest, easiest result. And now, in talking about prescriptions, you had some really interesting tips that you could share with them. Yeah, so with writing prescriptions, right, pharmacies are pharmacies. So I'm not gonna say good thing or bad thing. There are challenges working with pharmacies. I'm not gonna play that down at all. ⁓ If you're writing prescriptions and having issues and kickbacks from pharmacies, there's some interesting laws around ⁓ writing prescriptions. Say that you're trying to ⁓ prescribe   augmentin, you know, 875 BID, and you tell the patient, hey, I want you to take this twice a day for seven days, and then you put quantity of seven, because you're moving fast, right? You want it for seven days, quantity of seven. Quantity would actually be 14, right? It's not that big of a deal. Anybody with common sense would say if you're taking a pill for twice a day for seven days, you need 14 tablets. But LAHA doesn't allow pharmacists to make that kind of a change, unfortunately. They have to follow what you're saying there. So you're going to get a...   An annoying callback that says, you wrote for seven tablets. I know you need 14. Is that OK? Just delays things, right? So ⁓ I really like the two letters QS. That's Q isn't queen. S isn't Sam. Yeah. It stands for quantity sufficient. So you don't have to calculate the amount of any medication that you're doing. So for me, as a pharmacist, when I was taking care of patients, I hated calculating the amount of insulin they would need for an entire month. So I would say.   Mrs. Jones needs 15, I'd say 15 units ⁓ QD daily. ⁓ And then I say QS, quantity sufficient, ⁓ 90 day supply through refills. So the pharmacy can then go calculate how much insulin that they need. I don't have to even do that. So anytime you're prescribing anything, I like that QS personally. So that lets the pharmacy use ⁓ common sense, as I like to call it, instead of giving you a call. I think that's super helpful. I also thought of one thing too.   going back to blood thinners is when it's kind of like a real quick, like they're not gonna have you stop the blood thinner at all. like you're seeing if you can stop the blood thinner for a patient, there's some instances it's just not gonna happen. And that's whenever they've been, they've had a clot or a stroke or a heart attack within the last three months. Three months. Yeah, that's kind of like the.   Because so many people are like, they had a heart thing like six years ago. And so I think a lot of my dentists that I worked with were like, we got to stop the blood thinners. But it sounds like it's within three months. Yeah, well, I'm just the time. Like this is general broad strokes. What I'm just trying to say is when you want to expect a no real quick. Got it. Right. So because benefits of stopping a blood thinner within those first three months of an event is very, very risky versus the, you know, the benefit of reducing a little bit of blood coming out of the mouth. Right. Like that's not that bad.   when somebody's had a stroke or a heart attack or pulmonary embolism, a clot in the lung, like we can't replace the lung, heart or brain very easily. We can replace blood a lot better. We've got buckets of it at most hospitals have buckets of it, right? So I'm always kind of leaning towards I'd rather replace blood than tissue at all times. So that's kind of a quick no. If they've had one those events in the last three months, we are really, really gonna watch their brain instead of getting.   root canal, right? Like really worried about them. So you'll just say no. And they could the dentist still proceed with the procedure or would you recommend like a three month wait? Or is it provider specific way the pros and cons because sometimes you need to get that tooth out. Great question. think then it's going to come into clinical. That's that's when you send in the clearance, right? Like, and it's great to reach out to the provider who's managing it for you. But I think it's kind of good to know exactly when you get a quick no quick no is going to be less than three months.   ⁓ Or when it's going to be like a kind of a typical, yeah, no problem. If it's been no greater than six months, they're on the typical anticoagulants or alto eloquence. Nothing crazy is going on for them. You're only removing two teeth. This is very, very low risk. But again, I'd urge everybody to read the ADA guidelines. That way you feel more comfortable with it. I'm not as eloquent as they do. They do a real good job. So I don't want to take any of their credit. I think they do a real good job of simplifying that and making you feel confident with providing.   more timely care for patients. Which is amazing. And Jayce, one last thing. I don't remember what it was. You were talking about the DEA and like six month rule. yeah. Let's just quickly talk about that and then we'll wrap this because this is such a fascinating thing for me last night. Yeah. So when comes to prescribing controlled substances, most providers have to have a DEA license. OK. First of all, though, what's your take on dentist prescribing controlled substances? ⁓ I don't think, you know, I worked on the insurance side of things. Right. And I look at the requirements for the   as the authorizations, what a patient, the criteria a patient needs to hit in order to qualify for certain medications. A lot of times for those controlled substances, they have pretty significant issues going on, like fibromyalgia or cancer-related pain or end-of-life care versus we don't, in all my scanning thread, I don't have a ⁓ perfect picture memory. Sure. But I don't usually see oral.   pain in there. There is some post-operative pain that can be covered for those kind of medications but I really recommend to keep those lower and in fact in a lot of our criteria it recommends you know have they tried Tylenol first, they tried, have they filled NSAIDs or are they contraindicated with the patient. So really they should be last line for patients in my two cents but there's always going to be a caveat to the rule right? Of course. comes through that has oral cancer and you're taking   like that would make sense to me. Got it, so then back to the DEA. Yeah, okay. Okay, ready. So as a provider, you should be checking the, if you're doing controlled substances, you should be checking the prescription drug monitoring program, or sometimes called the PDMP, looking to see if patients are getting ⁓ controlled substances from another provider. So it's really just a check and balance to make sure that they're not going from provider to provider to getting too many narcotics and causing self harm or harm to others.   And so with checking that PDMP before prescribing, I think a lot of providers do that. A lot of softwares that I'm aware of, EMRs, electronic medical records, sometimes have links so that you can do that more quickly. However, I don't think it's as intuitive that they need to be checking that every six months in some states. And like here in Nevada, you're supposed to be checking it every six months, not for a patient, but for your actual DEA registration to see if anybody else is prescribing underneath you. Because if you don't check that every six months, you could get in some serious trouble with...   not only DEA, but even more the Board of Pharmacy and your state. Now, I don't know all 50 states, so I check with your state to see if you need to be checking that every six months, but set an alarm just to check that real quickly, keep your nose clean. ⁓ I've had providers, I've had to remind to do that. And if somebody was using your account, prescribing narcotics, you'd never know unless you went and checked that PDMP.   Yeah, I remember last night you were like, and if that was you, I would not want to be you. The Board of Pharmacy is going to be real excited to find you. So that was something where I was like, got it. So, and we all know I'm big on let's make it easy. And Jason, I love that you love this so much and you just brought so much value today. And like also for me, it's just fun to podcast. fun. Yeah. But I got a nerd out on my world a little bit. Bring it into yours. I work with dentists or at least you know, when I was working in Vascular Clinic all day long. Great questions that would come through. Yeah.   So I think for all of us, as a recap on this is number one, I think setting yourself ⁓ some cadences. So maybe every quarter we check our ADA guidelines and we check our, what is it, PDMP. PDMP. so each state, so they call it Prescription Drug Monitoring Program. We need that. Yeah, but there are different acronyms in different states, though. That's just what it's called in Nevada. I forget what it is in California, but you can check your state's prescription monitoring program, make sure that opioids aren't being prescribed under your name. Got it. So we just set that as a cadence.   We know one to three teeth most likely if they're on a blood thinner is According to the 88 as of today is good to go You know things that are going to get a quick know are going to be within the last three months of the stroke the heart attack or the Clot I'm thinking like the pulmonary embolus. Yeah, that's what we're trying to prevent   Those are gonna be quick knows and then if we're prescribing, let's do QS. We've got quantity is sufficient so that we're not getting phone calls back on those medications that we are. And then on narcotics, just being a bit more cautious. Of course, this is provider specific and in no way, or form did Jason come on here to tell you you are the clinical expert.   Jason's the clinical expert on medications. And if you guys ever have questions, I know Jason, you geek out and you want to talk to people so that anyone wants to chat shop. Be sure to reach out and we'll be able to connect you in. we've even talked about possibly, so let me know listeners. You can email in Hello@TheDentalATeam.com of ask a pharmacist anything. I talked to Jason. I was like,   We'll just have them like send in questions and maybe get you back on the podcast or we do a webinar. But any last thoughts, Jace, you've got of pharmacy and dentistry as we as we wrap up today? No, I think that's pretty much it. So check the ADA guidelines. I think it's really good to have cross communication between professions. Right. If you're working with the pharmacy, CVS, Walgreens or something like that or Walmart, I know that it can be challenging. Right. They're under different pressures. You're under different pressure. So I think ⁓ just coming in with an understanding, not being angry at each other.   you know what mean, is super beneficial and working together. When it comes to it, every dentist that I've talked to is actually worried about their patient. Every pharmacist that I've worked with is really worried about the patient as well. So we're trying to accomplish the same thing, but we have different rules and our hands are bound in different ways that annoy each other, right? Like I know Dr. Jones, want 14 tablets, but you said seven. And I know Common Sense says I should give them 14, but I've got to make that change.   knowing that their hands are tied by the law. They can't use as much common sense, which is aggravating. I mean, that's why I love what I gotta do here. I gotta just kind of help a lot more and use common sense and improve patient care. But those kinds of things I think are really beneficial as you work together and then not being so afraid of blood thinners, right? So I think those guidelines do a great job of giving you confidence and not worrying about the side effects. And there's a lot of things that you can do locally for bleeding.   You have a lot of control over that. I think that's pretty cool, the tools they have. Yeah. And at the end of the day, yes, you are the clinician. You are the one who is responsible for this. so obviously, chat, but I think collaborating, talking to other pharmacists, talking to them in your state, finding out what are the state laws, things like that I think can be really beneficial just to give you peace of mind and confidence. And again, dentistry, are maybe a bit more risk adverse because luckily we don't have patients dying That's great thing. Yeah, that's fantastic. I want my dentists to be risk adverse. I think so too. But Jason, I appreciate you being on the podcast today.   And for all of you listening, ⁓ more confidence, more clarity, more streamline to be able to serve and help our patients better. if we can help you in any way or you've got more questions, reach out Hello@TheDentalATeam.com. And as always, thanks for listening. I'll catch you next time on the Dental A Team podcast.  

Clopidogrel Monotherapy in Chronic Coronary Artery Disease   Guest: Keri Zieminski, APRN, C.N.P., D.N.P. Host: Sharonne Hayes, M.D.   This episode of Mayo Clinic's “Interviews With the Experts” will give an overview of clopidogrel monotherapy in patients with chronic CAD that are not on anticoagulation. Discussion will include why there has been a shift towards redefining antiplatelet medical therapy for this patient population, brief overview of recent trials, and how to manage a patient on clopidogrel monotherapy that needs to undergo noncardiac surgery.   Topics Discussed: Why has there been a shift towards redefining antiplatelet medical therapy in patients with chronic CAD? What's changed? Recently published trials that highlight clopidogrel monotherapy. What is your process for managing a patient on clopidogrel monotherapy that needs to go for noncardiac surgery?   Connect with Mayo Clinic's Cardiovascular Continuing Medical Education online at https://cveducation.mayo.edu or on Twitter @MayoClinicCV and @MayoCVservices. LinkedIn: Mayo Clinic Cardiovascular Services Cardiovascular Education App: The Mayo Clinic Cardiovascular CME App is an innovative educational platform that features cardiology-focused continuing medical education wherever and whenever you need it. Use this app to access other free content and browse upcoming courses. Download it for free in Apple or Google stores today! No CME credit offered for this episode.   Podcast episode transcript found here.

Join Kate, Gary and Mark (Henry has the day off) as we discuss 3 useful new studies: colorectal cancer screening reminders, aspirin or clopidogrel for secondary prevention of CV events, and lipid lowering drugs and dementia risk

Commentary by Dr.  Jian'an Wang.

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A large meta-analysis in The Lancet found clopidogrel superior to aspirin for long-term secondary prevention in coronary artery disease, reducing major cardiovascular events by 14% without added bleeding risk. The REBOOT trial in NEJM showed no benefit of beta-blockers in post-MI patients with preserved ejection fraction, and even potential harm in women on high doses, prompting reevaluation of routine use. Finally, a phase 2 trial in JAMA Internal Medicine showed daily azelastine nasal spray reduced COVID-19 incidence by 67% and shortened illness duration, though larger studies are needed to confirm its prophylactic role.

Approval of first-generation devices, the ticagrelor controversy, ICD longevity, the PRAGUE-25 trial (one of the most important trials of the year), and some thoughts on the end of EP as a profession are the topics John Mandrola, MD, discusses in this week's podcast. This podcast is intended for healthcare professionals only. To read a partial transcript or to comment, visit: https://www.medscape.com/twic I More Ticagrelor Controversy BMJ Investigation Finds More Concerns in Ticagrelor Trials https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/investigation-bmj-raises-more-concerns-about-ticagrelor-2025a1000gh3 Ticagrelor PLATO study https://www.bmj.com/content/389/bmj.r1201 Ticagrelor vs Clopidogrel https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa0904327 Review of the Ticagrelor Trials Evidence Base https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/JAHA.123.031606 The Plato Trial: Do you believe in magic? https://doi.org/10.1093/eurheartj/ehp545 ONSET/OFFSET Antiplatelet Effects https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/circulationaha.109.912550 RESPOND Study https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/circulationaha.109.919456 II ICD Battery Longevity Variability in ICD Battery Longevity https://doi.org/10.1016/j.hrthm.2025.05.031 PRAGUE-25 Trial of AF Ablation vs LFM PRAGUE-25 Trial https://www.jacc.org/doi/10.1016/j.jacc.2025.04.042 You may also like: The Bob Harrington Show with the Stephen and Suzanne Weiss Dean of Weill Cornell Medicine, Robert A. Harrington, MD. https://www.medscape.com/author/bob-harrington Questions or feedback, please contact news@medscape.net

Clopidogrel Versus Aspirin for Long-term Maintenance Monotherapy in Patients with High Ischemic Risk After Percutaneous Coronary Intervention

In this podcast, Dr. David Kao discusses the AJHP Descriptive Report, “Implementation of clopidogrel pharmacogenetic clinical decision support for a preemptive return of results program,” with host and AJHP Editor in Chief Dr. Daniel Cobaugh. The information presented during the podcast reflects solely the opinions of the presenter. The information and materials are not, and are not intended as, a comprehensive source of drug information on this topic. The contents of the podcast have not been reviewed by ASHP, and should neither be interpreted as the official policies of ASHP, nor an endorsement of any product(s), nor should they be considered as a substitute for the professional judgment of the pharmacist or physician.

N Engl J Med 2010;363:930-942Background By 2010, dual antiplatelet therapy had been established as beneficial during and after percutaneous coronary intervention for acute coronary syndromes. Optimal dosing however remained unknown. This included the best loading dose of clopidogrel and optimal dose of aspirin.Cardiology Trial's Substack is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support our work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.The Clopidogrel and Aspirin Optimal Dose Usage to Reduce Recurrent Events−Seventh Organization to Assess Strategies in Ischemic Syndromes (CURRENT–OASIS 7) trial was designed to determine whether a doubling of the loading and initial maintenance doses of clopidogrel is superior to the standard-dose regimen and whether higher-dose aspirin (300 to 325 mg daily) is superior to lower-dose aspirin (75 to 100 mg daily) in patients with acute coronary syndromes referred for an early invasive strategy.Patients Adult patients who presented with a non-ST-segment elevation acute coronary syndrome (ACS) or an ST-segment elevation myocardial infarction. Patients had to have had coronary angiography with a plan to perform PCI within 72 hours. Major exclusion criteria were an increased risk of bleeding or active bleeding and a known allergy to clopidogrel or aspirin. Baseline Characteristics Nearly all patients had angiography. About 68% had PCI and 32% did not have PCI due to lack of significant (≤70%) stenosis. About a quarter of patients had coronary-artery bypass surgery. The average age of patients was 61 years; 27% female sex, and 70% had a diagnosis of unstable angina or NSTEMI. The median time to randomization in patients with unstable angina/NSTEMI was 3.4 days vs 0.6 days in patients with STEMI. About 60% of patients were white, and 22% were Asian. The co-existing cardiac risk factors, such as smoking, hypertension, diabetes and previous MI were similar in all the trial arms, and typical of most trials at the time.Procedures The CURRENT-OASIS 7 trial had 2x2 factorial design. First, comparing in a double-blind fashion, a double dose vs standard dose clopidogrel regimen. In the second component, patients were randomly assigned in an open-labeled fashion to higher- or lower-dose aspirin.Immediately after randomization and before coronary angiography, patients randomly assigned to double-dose clopidogrel received a loading dose of 600 mg on day 1, followed by 150 mg once daily on days 2 through 7. Patients assigned to standard-dose clopidogrel received a 300-mg loading dose on day 1 before angiography, followed by 75 mg once daily on days 2 through 7. On days 8 through 30, both the double-dose and standard-dose groups received 75 mg of clopidogrel once daily.Patients randomly assigned to lower-dose aspirin received 75 to 100 mg daily on days 2 through 30, and those randomly assigned to higher-dose aspirin received 300 to 325 mg daily on days 2 through 30. An initial loading dose of aspirin 300 mg was used in both arms on day 1. Other therapies, such as anti-thrombotics were left to the discretion of the treating doctors. Endpoints The primary endpoint was cardiovascular death, myocardial infarction, or stroke at 30 days. The sample-size calculation estimated an event rate of 11% at 30 days with standard-dose clopidogrel or lower-dose aspirin. That would have led to 14,000 patients to have 90% power to detect a 16% reduction in the primary endpoint. Lower-than expected event rates required an increase in sample size to 25,000 patients. This allowed for an 80% power to detect a 16% reduction in the primary endpoint.Results  A primary outcome event occurred in 4.2% of patients in the double-dose clopidogrel group at 30 days, as compared with 4.4% in the standard-dose group (hazard ratio, 0.94, 95% confidence interval [CI], 0.83 to 1.06; P=0.30). The rate of death from any cause did not differ significantly between the double-dose and standard-dose groups (2.3% and 2.4%, respectively; hazard ratio with the double dose, 0.96; 95% CI, 0.82 to 1.13; P=0.61). Major bleeding occurred more often in the double-dose arm (2.5 vs 2.0% HR 1.24; 95% CI 1.05-1.46).For the aspirin comparison, the rate of primary outcome events did not differ: 4.2% in the higher-dose arm vs 4.4% in the lower-dose arm. Death from any cause was not statistically different in either arm. Major bleeding rates were also similar in the two aspirin arms (2.3% in both arms).The authors described a “nominally significant” interaction between clopidogrel dose and aspirin dose for the primary outcome. Among patients assigned to higher-dose aspirin, the primary outcome occurred in 3.8% of patients in the double-dose clopidogrel group, as compared with 4.6% of patients in the standard-dose clopidogrel group (hazard ratio, 0.82; 95% CI, 0.69 to 0.98; P=0.03). But in the lower dose aspirin group, there were no significant differences in the primary outcome between double-dose and standard-dose clopidogrel (4.5% vs 4.2% HR 1.07 95% CI 0.90-1.26, respectively). The p-value for the interaction here was 0.04. Subgroup analyses showed generally consistent results. One possible heterogenous treatment effect in the double- vs standard-dose clopidogrel comparison turned on whether the patient had PCI or did not have PCI. In the 68% (≈17,000) of patients who had PCI, double dose clopidogrel reduced the primary outcome by 15% (3.9% vs 4.5%) vs increasing it by 14% in the no PCI group (4.9% vs 4.3%). The p-value for interaction was 0.03. There were no indications of heterogenous treatment effects depending on aspirin.Conclusions In patients with ACS, double dose clopidogrel or aspirin compared to standard dose did not significantly reduce the composite endpoint of cardiovascular death, MI or stroke. Double dose clopidogrel did increase major bleeding with a NNH of approximately 200 patients. Treatment effect heterogeneity, favoring the double dose clopidogrel strategy, was suggested for patients undergoing PCI.This trial serves as a good example of the limitations of surrogate endpoints in predicting hard outcomes. Previous studies had demonstrated that higher doses of clopidogrel led to faster and more substantial platelets inhibition. The observed increase in bleeding events with double-dose clopidogrel supported these findings. Nonetheless, it did not correspond to better ischemic outcomes.As for the dose of aspirin, there was no added benefit (or increase in bleeding) with higher dose aspirin beyond 75-100 mg. Cardiology Trial's Substack is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support our work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to Cardiology Trial's Substack at cardiologytrials.substack.com/subscribe

N Engl J Med 2012;367:1297-1309Background: In patients with acute coronary syndrome, clinical guidelines recommend early angiography particularly in those deemed moderate to high risk. However, a proportion of patients do not undergo revascularization, and these patients have poorer outcomes compared to those who do undergo revascularization.Cardiology Trial's Substack is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.The TRITON-TIMI 38 trial demonstrated that prasugrel, when compared to clopidogrel, reduces ischemic events in patients with acute coronary syndrome undergoing percutaneous coronary intervention (PCI). Notably, in the TRITON-TIMI 38 trial, 99% of the patients underwent PCI at the time of randomization.Expanding upon the findings of TRITON-TIMI 38, the TRILOGY ACS trial sought to test the hypothesis that aspirin plus prasugrel is superior to aspirin plus clopidogrel in patients with acute coronary syndrome, without ST segment elevation, who are managed medically without revascularization.Patients: Patients were enrolled if they had unstable angina or non-ST elevation myocardial infarction and were treated medically without revascularization, within 10 days of the index event. Patients with non-ST elevation myocardial infarction had elevated cardiac biomarkers. Patients with unstable angina had ST-segment depression of more than 1 mm in two or more electrocardiographic leads and negative cardiac biomarkers. Patients had to have one of the following: age of 60 years or older, diabetes mellitus, prior myocardial infarction or prior revascularization with either PCI or coronary-artery bypass grafting (CABG). Main exclusion criteria were history of stroke or TIA (this group had net harm with prasugrel in TRITON-TIMI 38), renal failure requiring dialysis and patients taking oral anticoagulants.Baseline characteristics: The trial enrolled 9,326 patients at 966 sites in 52 countries. The average age of patients was 66 years, with 78% were below 75 years old, and 61% were men. About 70% of the patients had non-ST elevation myocardial infraction as their index event. The average GRACE score was 122. About 82% had hypertension, 59% had hyperlipidemia, 38% had diabetes, 43% had prior myocardial infarction and 20% were current or recent smokers. The majority of patients were stable, with 88% classified as Killip class I.Angiography before randomization was performed in 41% of the patients. Medications at randomization included beta-blockers in 78% of the patients, ACEi or ARB in 75%, statins in 83% and proton pump inhibitors in 25%.Procedures: The trial was conducted as double-blind double-dummy study. Patients who underwent randomization within 72 hours after the first medical contact received a loading dose of 30mg of prasugrel followed by 10mg daily. The maintenance dose of prasugrel was 5mg daily for patients aged 75 years or older or patients who weighed less than 60 kg. Patients who underwent randomization after 72 hours of the first medical contact received open label clopidogrel before randomization and the maintenance study drug after randomization. Clopidogrel was given as a loading dose of 300mg followed by a maintenance dose of 75mg daily. Aspirin was given in all patients and the recommended dose was 100mg per day or less. Study drugs were given for a minimum of 6 months and a maximum of 30 months.Endpoints: The primary efficacy endpoint was a composite of death from cardiovascular causes, nonfatal myocardial infarction or nonfatal stroke among patients < 75 years old. Safety endpoints were bleeding not related to CABG based on Global Use of Strategies to Open Occluded Coronary Arteries (GUSTO) criteria for severe or life-threatening bleeding and Thrombolysis in Myocardial Infarction (TIMI) criteria for major bleeding, and neoplasms.Analysis was performed based on the intention-to-treat principle. The trial was event-driven. To ensure 90% power to detect 22% relative risk reduction of prasugrel over clopidogrel with a two-sided alpha of 5%, a total of 688 patients,

Commentary by Dr. Valentin Fuster

Note to readers: Since going live with Cardiology Trials Substack in January of 2024 we have been exclusively covering trials that we have categorized as belonging to the major subject heading “Acute Coronary Syndrome” belonging to the subsection “Medicines”. Our indexing scheme was described in one of our original posts and we encourage our audience to read it if you have not already. This is pertinent because the next several trials being presented may seem to come out of the blue but we assure you there is a method.N Engl J Med 2007;357:2011-15.Background Up to now we have presented trials involving major foundational medical therapies for acute coronary syndrome which include aspirin, thrombolytic agents and anticoagulation, but not those involving percutaneous coronary intervention (PCI) as they are reserved for another section. But, by the turn of the 21st century, PCI had become the dominant up-front strategy for revascularization in many countries around the world. Clinical trials demonstrated it improved outcomes, the main one being re-infarction, compared to thrombolysis in patients with STEMIs, and there was an evolving evidence for it in non-ST-segment elevation acute coronary syndrome (STEACS) as well, where thrombolysis had not demonstrated any significant benefits.As PCI became dominant, antithrombotic strategies for optimizing outcomes following PCI evolved along with it. These early trials generally involved a mixture of patient phenotypes (acute vs elective PCI) and were relatively small and of limited quality by comparison to many of the seminal trials presented thus far. Instead of presenting each of these smaller studies, we direct readers to a narrative review that nicely describes the evolution of dual-antiplatelet therapy for PCI and other indications.Briefly: dual-antiplatelet therapy with aspirin and ticlopidine, an antiplatelet agent belonging to the drug class of thienopyridines, which inhibits platelet aggregation induced by ADP, was found superior to aspirin alone or aspirin plus anticoagulation when PCI was performed; however, there were concerns about its safety. Clopidogrel was developed after ticlopidine; it had a similar mechanism of action but less safety concerns and could be given as a loading dose to produce more rapid effects. Despite limited evidence from clinical trials comparing it head-to-head with ticlopidine it became the dominant thienopyridine agent on the market and still has a prominent role in the management of cardiovascular diseases today.Following PCI and dual-antiplatelet therapy with aspirin and clopidogrel, patients continue to have an elevated risk of coronary events, in general, and in-stent related coronary events, in particular. Some of this risk has been attributed to limitations of clopidogrel itself. Clopidogrel has modest antiplatelet effects (compared to other thienopyridines) with substantial interpatient variability due to genetic polymorphisms that impact clopidogrel metabolism and antiplatelet efficacy. Clopidogrel also has a delayed onset of action, which is especially relevant regarding its ability to protect against the dreaded adverse event of early in-stent thrombosis.Prasugrel is a thienopyridine—developed after clopidogrel—that inhibits platelet aggregation more rapidly, consistently and to a greater extent. The Therapeutic Outcomes by Optimizing Platelet Inhibition with Prasugrel–Thrombolysis in Myocardial Infarction (TRITON–TIMI) 38 trial sought to test the hypothesis that prasugrel would reduce major cardiovascular events compared to clopidogrel in patients with acute coronary syndrome undergoing PCI.Cardiology Trial's Substack is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support our work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.Patients Eligible patients had either moderate-to-high risk unstable angina (UA) or NSTEMI or STEMI. UA and NSTEMI were defined by ischemic symptoms lasting 10 minutes or more and occurring within 72 hours before randomization, a TIMI risk score of 3 or more, and either ST-segment deviation of 1 mm or more or elevated levels of a cardiac biomarker of necrosis. STEMI was traditionally defined. Key exclusion criteria included an increased risk of bleeding, anemia, thrombocytopenia, a history of pathologic intracranial findings, or the use of any thienopyridine within 5 days before enrollment.Baseline characteristics The median age of patients was 61 years with 13% being ≥75 years and 74% were men; over 90% were white. The index event was UA or NSTEMI in 74% and STEMI in 26%.  PCI was performed in 99% of patients and split evenly between those receiving bare metal or drug eluting stent(s).  18% of patients had a prior MI, 23% had diabetes, 64% had hypertension and 38% were tobacco users. Only 11% of patients had CKD defined as a creatinine clearance ≤60 ml/min.Procedures A loading dose of prasugrel 60 mg or clopidogrel 300 mg was given in a double blind manner anytime between randomization up to 1 hour after leaving the catheterization laboratory. In order to be randomized, the plan for PCI had to be known. This could occur before going to the cath lab for planned PCI, if the anatomy was already known or occur in the cath lab during the case where anatomy was determined and PCI was performed. If PCI was planned, patients were eligible to undergo pretreatment with the study drug for up to 24 hours prior to PCI.Treating physicians determined the vessels treated, devices used, and adjunctive medication administered to support PCI. After PCI, patients received maintenance doses of either prasugrel 10 mg daily or clopidogrel 75 mg daily. Use of aspirin at a dose of 75 to 162 mg daily was recommended. Study visits were conducted at hospital discharge, 30 days, 90 days, and 3-month intervals thereafter, for a total of 6 to 15 months.Endpoints The primary efficacy endpoint was a composite of cardiovascular death, nonfatal MI or stroke during the follow up period. A prespecified “landmark” analysis was undertaken to compare the primary endpoint event rate up to 3 days following randomization and from day 3 to the end of the study. The sample size calculation was event-driven and it was determined that 875 primary endpoint events would provide 90% power to detect a relative risk reduction of 20%. A prespecified analysis performed after 650 events revealed a lower than anticipated event rate and the investigators increased the sample size accordingly.Results A total of 13,608 patients (10,074 with UA or NSTEMI and 3534 with STEMI), from 707 sites in 30 countries were enrolled. There were 6,813 patients assigned to the prasugrel group and 6,795 assigned to clopidogrel. The median duration of therapy was 14.5 months. Prasugrel significantly reduced the primary composite endpoint compared to clopidogrel (9.9% vs 12.1%; HR 0.81; 95% CI 0.73-0.90; P

N Engl J Med 2001;345:494-502.Background The established medical treatments for acute coronary syndrome reviewed so far include aspirin and thrombolytics along with a smaller role for short-term anticoagulation. Angiotensin converting enzymes inhibitors and, to a lesser extent, beta blockers were also found to reduce recurrent ischemic events and death as well as heart failure and ventricular remodeling. The EPHESUS trial, which studied Eplerenone in this patient population was not published until several years later.Cardiology Trial's Substack is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support our work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.Despite the benefits of the above therapies, patients who experienced an ACS event were still at a substantially higher risk for experiencing recurrent events compared to patients who never experienced an ACS event. Significant interest remained in finding additional agents to reduce “residual risk” (i.e., the risk of recurrent events that is left over after initiating effective therapies). Imagine a heart attack survivor has a 20% risk of experiencing death, non-fatal MI or heart failure over the next 5 years. Now imagine that all known effective therapies cumulatively reduce that risk by 30% (a 6% absolute reduction in risk); the residual risk for events over 5 years would still be 14%, which is still high, and significantly higher than patients who never experienced an ACS event (e.g., primary prevention patients).Thienopyridine derivatives, including clopidogrel, are antiplatelet agents with a different mechanism of action than aspirin. Up to this point in time they demonstrated efficacy in patients who had received a coronary stent for reducing myocardial infarction compared to either aspirin alone or warfarin. The Clopidogrel in Unstable Angina to Prevent Recurrent Events (CURE) trial sought to test the hypothesis that 3 to 12 months of clopidogrel plus aspirin versus aspirin alone would reduce the rate of cardiovascular events (a composite endpoint) compared to aspirin alone in patients with ACS and no ST-segment elevation.Patients Patients were eligible if they had been hospitalized within 24 hours after the onset of symptoms, who had either ECG changes or an elevation in cardiac enzymes at entry, and did not have ST-segment elevation. Exclusion criteria included a contraindication to antithrombotic or antiplatelet therapy, high bleeding risk or severe heart failure, those who were taking oral anticoagulants, and those who had undergone coronary revascularization in the previous 3 months or had received intravenous glycoprotein IIb/IIIa receptor inhibitors in the previous 3 days.Baseline characteristics No information in the main manuscript is provided on the ratio of patients eligible to those enrolled, which limits our ability to make inferences about external validity. The average age of participants was 64 years of age and nearly 40% were woman, which is historically higher than the trials reviewed up to this point. The average time from pain onset to randomization was 14 hours. The diagnoses at study entry were unstable angina in 75% and MI in 25%. Many patients in the trial has a history of MI (32%) or revascularization (18%) in the past and the majority were either current or former smokers (61%). Most patients (94%) had some ECG abnormality; the most common being ST depression (42%) and T-wave inversion (36%).Procedures Immediately following randomization patients were administered a 300 mg loading dose of clopidogrel or matching placebo followed by 75 mg per day of clopidogrel or matching placebo for 3 to 12 months (the mean duration of treatment was 9 months). Aspirin was started or continued simultaneously with the study drug or placebo. Follow-up assessments occurred at discharge, at 1 and 3 months, and then every 3 months until the end of the study (12 months).Endpoints The first primary endpoint was the composite of death from cardiovascular causes (death for which there was no clearly documented nonvascular cause), nonfatal MI (which required at least 2 of 3 findings: ischemic chest pain, elevation of cardiac markers or ECG changes consistent with MI) or stroke (new focal neurological deficit of vascular origin lasting >24 hr and was subdivided into intracranial hemorrhage, ischemia, or uncertain cause) at 12 months. The second primary endpoint was the composite of the first primary endpoint or refractory ischemia. Secondary outcomes included severe ischemia, heart failure, and the need for revascularization. Safety related outcomes included life-threatening, major bleeding (requiring transfusion of ≥2 units of blood) or all other bleeding.The study was initially designed to include 9000 patients, with an anticipated primary event rate of 12-14% in the placebo group; however, because the event rate was lower than anticipated, the size of the study was increased as the trial was ongoing, with an adjusted rate of 10% in the placebo group. A final sample size of 12,500 patients was based on an anticipated 17% risk reduction for the primary composite endpoint with 90% power and a two-sided alpha level of 0.045.Results 12,562 patients were included in the final analysis; 6,303 in the placebo group and 6,259 in the clopidogrel group. During the initial hospital stay, 21% of patients in the clopidogrel group and 23% of patients in the placebo group underwent revascularization. At 1-year clopidogrel significantly reduced the occurrence of the first primary composite endpoint (RR 0.80; 9.3% vs 11.4%; 95% CI 0.72-0.90) and second primary composite endpoint (RR 0.86; 16.5% vs 18.8%; 95% CI 0.79-0.94). These differences were driven primarily by reducing nonfatal MI (RR 0.77; 5.2% vs 6.7%; 95% CI 0.0.67-0.89). There were no significant differences in death from cardiovascular or non-cardiovascular causes, stroke or refractory ischemia.Compared to placebo, clopidogrel significantly increased major bleeding (RR 1.38; 3.7% vs 2.7%; 95% CI 1.13-1.67). However, there was no significant excess of major bleeding in patients undergoing CABG surgery (RR 1.48; 1.3% vs 1.1%; 95% CI 0.93-1.71). The median time for clopidogrel discontinuation before CABG surgery was 5 days.Results from various subgroups are presented for the first primary composite endpoint and suggest the possibility of important treatment effect heterogeneity. Patients with a history of revascularization represented a minority of patients in the study (18%) and experienced higher rates of events but derived a significantly greater benefit from clopidogrel compared to those not previously revascularized (RR 0.58 vs 0.89).Patients >65 years of age made up about half of study participants, and experienced event rates >2x higher than those ≤65 years of age, but derived less benefit from clopidogrel (RR 0.87 vs 0.71). The same was true based on risk tertiles. Patients at low and intermediate risk of experiencing events based on risk scores, experienced similar risk reductions from clopidogrel of 76% and 69% respectively; however, those at the highest risk received less benefit (RR 91%). Finally, women appeared to benefit less than men (RR 89% vs 76%).Notably, there was no evidence of treatment effect heterogeneity based on whether patients underwent revascularization or not following randomization.During the trial, clopidogrel was discontinued temporarily (≥5 days) in 46% of patients mainly due to the need for a surgical procedure. A total of 21% of patients discontinued clopidogrel permanently compared to 18% in the placebo group.Conclusions In patients admitted to the hospital for unstable angina or NSTEMI, clopidogrel for 3-12 months plus aspirin, reduced the rate of a composite primary endpoint compared to aspirin alone and was associated with a number needed to treat of approximately 50 patients. This benefit was driven almost entirely by reducing nonfatal MI. Clopidogrel increased major bleeding with an NNH of approximately 100 patients.In our opinion, the benefit conferred by clopidogrel in this patient population is modest and the external validity is uncertain as no information is provided on patients enrolled compared to those who were eligible/screened. Patients with prior histories of revascularization derived the greatest benefit; however, several higher risk subgroups including older patients (>65 years of age) and the third of patients who were at the highest risk of experiencing events derived significantly less benefit. Women, also derived less benefit. In the groups less likely to benefit, we would expect them to experience higher rates of adverse events as well and thus, it is possible they derive no net benefit from clopidogrel or could even experience net harm.While thienopyridines have come to be considered a foundational treatment for ACS, evidence of their benefit from the CURE trial is modest at best; based mainly on reduction of a nonfatal endpoint.The CURE trial results should be translated cautiously, especially for patients who are older, frail and more susceptible to adverse events.Cardiology Trial's Substack is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support our work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to Cardiology Trial's Substack at cardiologytrials.substack.com/subscribe

Welcome to the Transatlantic series, a co-production of Audible Bleeding (a publication of the SVS) and the ESVS podcast. In today's episode, we explore the intersocietal guidelines on peripheral arterial disease in patients with diabetes and foot ulcers authored by the International Working Group on the Diabetic Foot (IWGDF), the European Society for Vascular Surgery (ESVS), and the Society for Vascular Surgery (SVS).   Dr. Robert Fitridge is a Professor of Vascular Surgery at University of Adelaide in Australia. He is a member of the IWGDF and is also a member of the steering committee for the Global Vascular Guideline on the management of Chronic Limb-threatening Ischaemia.    Dr. Vivienne Chuter is a Professor in the Department of Podiatry at Western Sydney University and Honorary Professor in the School of Health Science at The University of NewCastle. She is a member of the IWGDF. She has published extensively on diabetic foot disease and leads a clinically based research program focusing on the prevention and management of diabetes-related foot disease for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people and for non-Indigenous Australians.   Dr. Nicolaas Schaper is an emeritus professor of Endocrinology at Maastricht University Hospital in the Netherlands. Dr. Schaper was the coordinator of the European diabetic foot research consortium, Eurodiale. He is Chair of the 2023 Diabetic Foot Symposium (ISDF 2023) and is Chair of the IWGDF.   Dr. Joseph L. Mills is a Professor of Vascular Surgery at Baylor in Houston, Texas. He is a member of the IWGDF. Dr. Mills is a leader in the vascular surgery global community, has served as president of the Peripheral Vascular Surgery Society, and is currently a member of the Surgery Residency Review Committee of the ACGME.   Further reading and links:   The intersocietal IWGDF, ESVS, SVS guidelines on peripheral artery disease in people with diabetes mellitus and a foot ulcer. Global vascular guidelines for CLTI Best-CLI Engaging patients and caregivers to establish priorities for the management of diabetic foot ulcers A systematic review of multidisciplinary teams to reduce major amputations for patients with diabetic foot ulcers A vein bypass first versus a best endovascular treatment first revascularisation strategy for patients with chronic limb threatening ischaemia who required an infra-popliteal, with or without an additional more proximal infra-inguinal revascularisation procedure to restore limb perfusion (BASIL-2): an open-label, randomised, multicentre, phase 3 trial Release of the National Scheme's Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Health and Cultural Safety Strategy 2020-2025; the impacts for podiatry in Australia: a commentary Editor's Choice - European Society for Vascular Surgery (ESVS) 2023 Clinical Practice Guidelines on Antithrombotic Therapy for Vascular Diseases Results of the CAPRIE trial: efficacy and safety of clopidogrel. Clopidogrel versus aspirin in patients at risk of ischaemic events Low-Dose Aspirin for the Primary Prevention of Cardiovascular Disease in Diabetic Individuals: A Meta-Analysis of Randomized Control Trials and Trial Sequential Analysis Diabetes, Lower-Extremity Amputation, and Death Outcomes in patients with chronic leg wounds in Denmark: A nationwide register‐based cohort study Pedal arch patency and not direct-angiosome revascularization predicts outcomes of endovascular interventions in diabetic patients with critical limb ischemia Effectiveness of bedside investigations to diagnose peripheral artery disease among people with diabetes mellitus: A systematic review.  Performance of non-invasive bedside vascular testing in the prediction of wound healing or amputation among people with foot ulcers in diabetes: A systematic review. Effectiveness of revascularisation for the ulcerated foot in patients with diabetes and peripheral artery disease: A systematic review. The Society for Vascular Surgery Lower Extremity Threatened Limb Classification System: Risk stratification based on Wound, Ischemia, and foot Infection (WIfI). Surgery or Endovascular Therapy for Chronic Limb-Threatening Ischemia. A vein bypass first versus a best endovascular treatment first revascularisation strategy for patients with chronic limb threatening ischaemia who required an infra-popliteal, with or without an additional more proximal infra-inguinal revascularisation procedure to restore limb perfusion (BASIL-2): an open-label, randomised, multicentre, phase 3 trial.   Mobile Applications:   Society for Vascular Surgery Mobile App for Staging of Chronic Limb-Threatening Ischemia.  European Society for Vascular Surgery Clinical Practice Guidelines Mobile Edition.   Hosts:    Dr. Naveed A. Rahman is a chief surgery resident at SUNY Upstate in Syracuse, NY. He will pursue a vascular surgery fellowship at the University of Maryland starting in 2024. His Doximity profile is https://www.doximity.com/pub/naveed-rahman-md. Twitter: @naveedrahmanmd Dr. Suzanne Stokmans is a fifth-year vascular surgery resident at the Isala Hospital in Zwolle, the Netherlands. Dr. Ezra Schwartz is a medical graduate from McGill University currently completing a Master of Medical Science in Medical Education at Harvard Medical School. He is an aspiring vascular surgeon and surgical education researcher. Twitter: @ezraschwartz10   Follow us @audiblebleeding Learn more about us at https://www.audiblebleeding.com/about-1/ and provide us with your feedback with our listener survey.

Lancet 2005;366:1622-32Background Beta blockers were routinely used for the early management of patients with AMI; however, their efficacy and safety remained uncertain in this clinical scenario. Recall that in the BHAT trial, propranolol reduced death 2 years following an AMI with an NNT of approximately 33 but the cohort was highly selected, the drug was started, on average, 14 days following admission and those over the age of 70 were excluded. ISIS-1 found that atenolol reduced death with an NNT of approximately 100 when started immediately in lower risk AMI patients but treatment effect heterogeneity was observed in patient subgroups with higher risk features. The ClOpidogrel and Metoprolol Infarction Trial (COMMIT) sought to test the hypothesis that early beta-blockade with metoprolol would reduce cardiac events and death in a broad population of patients with AMI.Cardiology Trial's Substack is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support our work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.Patients Patients with suspected myocardial infarction, who presented with ST elevation, left-bundle branch block, or ST depression within 24 hours of symptom onset were eligible. Patient eligibility was ultimately determined by the responsible physician but protocol guidance suggested the following relative contraindications: persistently low blood pressure (SBP

Impact: SAPT 1 year after PCI

MedLink Neurology Podcast is delighted to feature selected episodes from BrainWaves, courtesy of James E Siegler MD, its originator and host. BrainWaves is an academic audio podcast whose mission is to educate medical providers through clinical cases and topical reviews in neurology, medicine, and the humanities, and episodes originally aired from 2016 to 2021.Originally released: Jan 18, 2018When it comes to stroke, treatment is dependent on the stroke mechanism. But most patients wind up on aspirin anyway. Or Plavix (clopidogrel). And sometimes both. The question this week is, Why? I hope you're hungry for some fruit because we're comparing a bunch of apples to oranges in this episode of the BrainWaves podcast.Produced by James E Siegler. Music by William Ross Chernoff's Nomads, Steve Combs, Rui, Little Glass Men, and Peter Rudenko. Voiceover by Erika Mejia. BrainWaves' podcasts and online content are intended for medical education only and should not be used for routine clinical decision-making. Even if this episode is all about choosing aspirin or clopidogrel when you're treating stroke patients. Always talk with your doctor, and if you are a doctor, you should rely on institutional policies and your own clinical judgment when treating patients.REFERENCESAntithrombotic Trialists' Collaboration. Collaborative meta-analysis of randomised trials of antiplatelet therapy for prevention of death, myocardial infarction, and stroke in high risk patients. BMJ 2002;324(7329):71-86. Erratum in: BMJ 2002;324(7330):141. PMID 11786451Bhatt DL, Fox KA, Hacke W, et al. Clopidogrel and aspirin versus aspirin alone for the prevention of atherothrombotic events. N Engl J Med 2006;354(16):1706-17. PMID 16531616CAST: randomised placebo-controlled trial of early aspirin use in 20,000 patients with acute ischaemic stroke. CAST (Chinese Acute Stroke Trial) Collaborative Group. Lancet 1997;349(9066):1641-9. PMID 9186381Collaborative overview of randomised trials of antiplatelet therapy--I: Prevention of death, myocardial infarction, and stroke by prolonged antiplatelet therapy in various categories of patients. Antiplatelet Trialists' Collaboration. BMJ 1994;308(6921):81-106. Erratum in: BMJ 1994;308(6943):1540. PMID 8298418CAPRIE Steering Committee. A randomised, blinded, trial of clopidogrel versus aspirin in patients at risk of ischaemic events (CAPRIE). CAPRIE Steering Committee. Lancet 1996;348(9038):1329-39. PMID 8918275Diener HC, Bogousslavsky J, Brass LM, et al. Aspirin and clopidogrel compared with clopidogrel alone after recent ischaemic stroke or transient ischaemic attack in high-risk patients (MATCH): randomised, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial. Lancet 2004;364(9431):331-7. PMID 15276392Hong KS, Lee SH, Kim EG, et al. Recurrent ischemic lesions after acute atherothrombotic stroke: clopidogrel plus aspirin versus aspirin alone. Stroke 2016;47(9):2323-30. PMID 27418597Jauch EC, Saver JL, Adams HP Jr, et al. Guidelines for the early management of patients with acute ischemic stroke: a guideline for healthcare professionals from the American Heart Association/American Stroke Association. Stroke 2013;44(3):870-947. PMID 23370205Kennedy J, Hill MD, Ryckborst KJ, et al. Fast assessment of stroke and transient ischaemic attack to prevent early recurrence (FASTER): a randomised controlled pilot trial. Lancet Neurol 2007;6(11):961-9.

GLP-1s and BaroStim Neo revisited, a new drug for transthyretin amyloid CM, clopidogrel vs ASA years after PCI and stent, and statins are the topics John Mandrola, MD, discusses in this week's podcast. This podcast is intended for healthcare professionals only. To read a partial transcript or to comment, visit: https://www.medscape.com/twic I. GLP-1s and Obesity, BaroStim Neo Revisited FDA Expands Label for CVRx Barostim System in HF https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/fda-expands-label-cvrx-barostim-system-hf-2023a1000wsx JAMA Cardiology Special Communication – BDP https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2810726 II. ATTR Cardiomyopathy ATTRibute-CM NEJM paper https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2305434 Circulation Review of TTR https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.111.078915 ATTR-ACT (Tafadimis) https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMoa1805689 III. Clopidogrel vs ASA Years After PCI Long-term Clopidogrel Has Advantages After Coronary Stenting https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/long-term-clopidogrel-has-advantages-after-coronary-stenting-2024a10000c8 Stop DAPT Original Trial STOP DAPT at 5 Years https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jacc.2023.10.013 Network Meta-analysis of P2Y12-I vs ASA https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jcin.2022.08.009 IV. Statin Use Statin Use Remains Low for At-Risk Patients https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/999043 Annals of Internal Medicine Observational Study https://doi.org/10.7326/M23-1915 You may also like: The Bob Harrington Show with the Stephen and Suzanne Weiss Dean of Weill Cornell Medicine, Robert A. Harrington, MD. https://www.medscape.com/author/bob-harrington Questions or feedback, please contact news@medscape.net

Commentary by Dr. Valentin Fuster

Welcome to my podcast. I am Doctor Warrick Bishop, and I want to help you to live as well as possible for as long as possible. I'm a practising cardiologist, best-selling author, keynote speaker, and the creator of The Healthy Heart Network. I have over 20 years as a specialist cardiologist and a private practice of over 10,000 patients. The episode discusses common cardiac drugs and some potential drug interactions. It covers aspirin, warfarin, clopidogrel, proton pump inhibitors, beta blockers, ACE inhibitors, digoxin, nitrates, and amiodarone. Notably, grapefruit can increase serum levels of beta blockers, calcium channel blockers, and some statins, potentially leading to toxicity. Warfarin's effects can be altered by foods high in vitamin K like leafy greens. Clopidogrel's effectiveness may be reduced when taken with proton pump inhibitors like omeprazole. Combining nitrates with phosphodiesterase inhibitors like sildenafil can cause profound blood pressure drops. The host recommends being aware of possible drug interactions and maintaining regular communication with doctors.

Join us as we review recent articles and news featured in The DIGEST #45 and #46, including semaglutide in HFpEF and obesity (STEP HFpEF), TCAs for irritable bowel syndrome (ATLANTIS), clopidogrel versus aspirin as long-term secondary prevention after PCI (HOST-EXAM), statins in HIV (REPRIEVE), weight changes and diet, and heavy metal exposure in cannabis users. Fill your brain hole with a delicious stack of hotcakes! Featuring Drs. Paul Williams (@PaulNWilliamz), Nora Taranto (@norataranto), and Matt Watto (@doctorwatto). Claim free CME for this episode at curbsiders.vcuhealth.org! Episodes | Subscribe | Spotify | Swag! |Mailing List | Contact | CME! Credits Written and Hosted by: Nora Taranto MD; Paul Williams, MD, FACP, Matthew Watto MD, FACP Cover Art: Matthew Watto MD, FACP Reviewers: Nora Taranto MD; Paul Williams, MD, FACP; Matthew Watto MD, FACP; Sai Achi, MD MBA Technical Production: Pod Paste Showrunners: Matthew Watto MD, FACP; Paul Williams MD, FACP Show Segments Intro, disclaimer STEP HFpEF: semaglutide for HFpEF in obesity  TCAs for IBS  HOST-EXAM and post-PCI  clopidogrel versus aspirin after DAPT  REPRIEVE and pitavastatin in HIV Starchy vegetables and weight changes  Cannabis and heavy metal content  Outro Sponsor: Uncommon Goods To get 15% off your next gift, go to uncommongoods.com/CURB Sponsor: Locumstory  Get a comprehensive view of locums and decide if it's right for you at locumstory.com.

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In the first of our special guest episodes, Professor Virginia Luis Fuentes from the Royal Veterinary College, London, joins Kieran and Jose to talk about treating cardiomyopathy in cats - beyond furosemide and clopidogrel. Listen in as Prof Luis Fuentes, a world-renowned expert and thought leader in feline heart disease, describes how she approaches a variety of treatment situations in cats, and the current thinking in human and feline medicine.

The Power of PharmacogenomicsJeff explains how pharmacogenomics, the study of how genes affect a person's response to medications, can revolutionize healthcare. By understanding a patient's genetic makeup, healthcare providers can prescribe the right medication and dosage, reducing trial and error, improving treatment effectiveness, and minimizing side effects. This approach acknowledges that each person is unique and recognizes the complex interplay of genetics and non-genetic factors to determine health outcomes. Real-World Impact of PharmacogenomicsJeff provides real-world examples of how pharmacogenomics can impact medication management. He discusses the role of the medication Clopidogrel, used with patients who are recieving a stent. He explains how genetic variations can affect the response to this medication, highlighting the importance of pharmacogenomics in ensuring effective treatment. The Future of HealthcareJeff discusses the future of healthcare, including the potential of wearable and implantable devices. He emphasizes the importance of giving healthcare professionals more tools to react in real-time and make informed decisions about patient care. He also discusses how companies like Coriell Life Sciences offer comprehensive medication management programs, highlighting the importance of scalability and accessibility in the adoption of pharmacogenomics.

"...we will take a look at how Strokes are diagnosed and then how Strokes the treated and managed the diagnosis of a stroke is and with imaging techniques being used to Aid in that diagnosis a big part of stroke diagnosis and management is the early recognition and tools such as and Razia a used Fast involves facial drooping arm weakness and speech disturbances while T is for the time indicating the need for timely action the Razia score which stands for recognition of stroke in the emergency room is similar and involves looking for any loss of consciousness or seizure activity which counts against a stroke diagnosis as well as facial arm or leg weakness speech disturbances or visual disturbances it physical exam should also be done which will cover the NIH SS school including levels of consciousness motor function sensory function language and attention generally suspected stroke patients will undergo a CT of the head without contrast as coagulated blood will appear hyper-dense on these scans however ischemia may not be seen in the early stages there for a CT scan is done more commonly to rule out further investigations may involve an MRI of the head which is more sensitive for chronic hemorrhages and areas of ischemia usually appear hyper-intense on diffusion-weighted a Doppler ultrasound of the Carotid may be done and if the stroke was suspected to be caused by an aneurysm and angiogram may also be done as well as lab investigations including lipids and coagulation screens you may have heard the expression time is brain in the early stages ischemic stroke the aim is to restore cerebral blood flow as fast as possible as this results in fewer brain cells dying according to the nice guidelines patients with non disabling stroke or t.i. a should have early carotid Imaging and Urgent in data Rekha me as well as stenting if they have carotid stenosis in patients who have an acute ischemic stroke 150 to 300 milligrams of aspirin should be given orally or rectally if the patient is dysphasic this 150 to 300 milligram should be continued for two weeks following the stroke until long-term antithrombotic treatment has been prescribed in patients with an allergy to aspirin Clopidogrel may be used and a proton pump inhibitor should be added in patients with a history of dyspepsia in cases of venous sinus thrombosis anticoagulation..." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"...we will take a look at how Strokes are diagnosed and then how Strokes the treated and managed the diagnosis of a stroke is and with imaging techniques being used to Aid in that diagnosis a big part of stroke diagnosis and management is the early recognition and tools such as and Razia a used Fast involves facial drooping arm weakness and speech disturbances while T is for the time indicating the need for timely action the Razia score which stands for recognition of stroke in the emergency room is similar and involves looking for any loss of consciousness or seizure activity which counts against a stroke diagnosis as well as facial arm or leg weakness speech disturbances or visual disturbances it physical exam should also be done which will cover the NIH SS school including levels of consciousness motor function sensory function language and attention generally suspected stroke patients will undergo a CT of the head without contrast as coagulated blood will appear hyper-dense on these scans however ischemia may not be seen in the early stages there for a CT scan is done more commonly to rule out further investigations may involve an MRI of the head which is more sensitive for chronic hemorrhages and areas of ischemia usually appear hyper-intense on diffusion-weighted a Doppler ultrasound of the Carotid may be done and if the stroke was suspected to be caused by an aneurysm and angiogram may also be done as well as lab investigations including lipids and coagulation screens you may have heard the expression time is brain in the early stages ischemic stroke the aim is to restore cerebral blood flow as fast as possible as this results in fewer brain cells dying according to the nice guidelines patients with non disabling stroke or t.i. a should have early carotid Imaging and Urgent in data Rekha me as well as stenting if they have carotid stenosis in patients who have an acute ischemic stroke 150 to 300 milligrams of aspirin should be given orally or rectally if the patient is dysphasic this 150 to 300 milligram should be continued for two weeks following the stroke until long-term antithrombotic treatment has been prescribed in patients with an allergy to aspirin Clopidogrel may be used and a proton pump inhibitor should be added in patients with a history of dyspepsia in cases of venous sinus thrombosis anticoagulation..." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Visit: https://nursing.com/140meds to request your free copy of "140 Must Know Meds" Generic Name Clopidogrel Trade Name Plavix Indication Atherosclerotic events, MI, CVA, PVD, acute coronary syndrome Action Inhibits platelet aggregation Therapeutic Class Antiplatelet agent Pharmacologic Class Platelet aggregation inhibitors Nursing Considerations • May cause GI bleeding, neutropenia, hypercholesterolemia • May increase risk for bleeding in warfarin, aspirin, heparin • Can increase risk for bleeding with garlic, ginkgo, ginger • Monitor for signs of bleeding • Monitor bleeding times • Monitor CBC and platelet count • Discontinue use 5-7 days before surgery

 In this week's View, Dr. Eagle discusses the value of the balloon pulmonary angioplasty procedure for patients with chronic thromboembolic pulmonary hypertension. He then reviews the sub analysis of the HOST EXAM trial assessing the benefit of aspirin versus clopidogrel as a maintenance strategy after coronary stenting.    Finally, Dr. Eagle explores the BIOVASC trial weighing in on immediate versus staged complete revascularization in patients presenting with acute coronary syndrome and multivessel coronary disease.    Subscribe to Eagle's Eye View  

Commentary by Dr Michael Spartalis

Title: ASA and Clopidogrel - When is it Too Much of a Good Thing? Host: Sabine von Preyss-Friedman, MD, FACP, CMD Guests: Nicole Orr, MD Recorded (in front of a live audience): March 11, 2023 Resources: Aspirin Use to Prevent Cardiovascular Disease (JAMA) ACC/AHA CV Risk Calculator  (for ages 40-79) Learn More About AMDA's Drive to Deprescribe Initiative Available Credit: The American Board of Post-Acute and Long-Term Care Medicine (ABPLM) issues CMD credits for AMDA On-The-Go and affiliate podcast episodes as follows: Claim CMD Credit

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Commentary by Dr Davide Capodanno

A quick review on PANTHER study

Trade – PlavixClass – Antiplatelet MOA – Blocks platelet aggregation by antagonizing the IIb/IIIa receptors Indications – ACS, chronic coronary and vascular disease, ischemic stroke.Contraindications – Hx of intracranial hemorrhage, GI bleed or trauma.Side effects – Nausea, Abdominal pain, hemorrhage. Dosing : Unstable angina pectoris or non Q wave AMI.Adult – Loading dose 300-600mg POPedi – Not recommended for pedi patients

Commentary by Dr Jack Tan

ALS treatment news; Evusheld fact sheet update; an at-home epilepsy diagnostic aid gets cleared; drug recalls; and a laser therapy for fibromyalgia.

Peripheral Artery Disease (PAD) Treatment Guest: Robert D. McBane, II M.D. Host: Stephen Kopecky, M.D. (@DrSteveKopecky) Most patients, who have Peripheral Artery Disease, do not experience the symptoms right away. However, patients affected with PAD will likely experience symptoms such as pain in the legs during walking and loss of hair. PAD limits the blood flow from the vessels to the heart. Without the proper treatment, the effects of PAD can lead to amputation of the foot or legs. Major amputation can potentially lower the life expectancy of patients that are affected with PAD. Joining us today to discuss Peripheral Artery Disease (PAD) Treatment is Robert D. McBane, II M.D. professor of medicine in the department of cardiovascular medicine at Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota. Specific topics discussed: How do you define PAD? Is invasive or noninvasive imaging diagnosis required? Or can be based on ABI?  Or is physical exam adequate with a bruit in the carotids, renals, or femorals? In PAD, are risk factors the same as in cardiovascular or cerebrovascular disease? Why is having PAD a greater risk factor for cardiovascular morbidity and mortality than coronary artery disease or cerebrovascular disease? Do any risk factors predominate in PAD? (e.g., is smoking more prevalent?) Are you checking lipoprotein a in patients with PAD at an early age? Has treatment of risk factors been shown to significantly reduce CV morbidity or mortality in patients with PAD? When is ABI indicated and when is toe-brachial index indicated? (What is the definition of noncompressible vessels?) When should we do exercise ABI? For treatment, other than treating the risk factors of lipids, smoking, hypertension, diabetes, or other treatments indicated such as anti-platelet and if so his aspirin adequate, what dose, or other anti-platelet agents indicated? Clopidogrel should be added when? Can be given in place of aspirin? When is cilostazol recommended? Can you give with heart failure-HFpEF and HFrEF?  Does this improve outcomes-walking distance or also overall morbidity and mortality? What home walking program is best to recommend for patients with PAD? Do patients with PAD get as aggressive treatment for risk factor control as do CV or cerebrovascular disease patients? Why are patients with PAD less often treated aggressively for risk factor control? Is that the patient or the caregiver? Any other new drugs available that are beneficial? When is revascularization helpful to consider? There is emerging evidence that lower LDL cholesterol (LDL less than 60) significantly benefits patients with CAD-is there any evidence lower LDL is beneficial in PAD? Connect with Mayo Clinic's Cardiovascular Continuing Medical Education online at https://cveducation.mayo.edu or on Twitter @MayoClinicCV. NEW Cardiovascular Education App: The Mayo Clinic Cardiovascular CME App is an innovative educational platform that features cardiology-focused continuing medical education wherever and whenever you need it. Use this app to access other free content and browse upcoming courses. Download it for free in Apple or Google stores today! No CME credit offered for this episode. Podcast episode transcript found here.  

WarfarinTrade: CoumadinUse: Anticoagulant Glipizide Trade: GlucotrolUse: Diabetes Clopidogrel bisulfate Trade: Plavix Use: Platelet inhibitor 

Download the cheat: https://bit.ly/50-meds  View the lesson: https://bit.ly/ClopidogrelPlavixNursingConsiderations    Generic Name Clopidogrel Trade Name Plavix Indication Atherosclerotic events, MI, CVA, PVD, acute coronary syndrome Action Inhibits platelet aggregation Therapeutic Class Antiplatelet agent Pharmacologic Class Platelet aggregation inhibitors Nursing Considerations • May cause GI bleeding, neutropenia, hypercholesterolemia • May increase risk for bleeding in warfarin, aspirin, heparin • Can increase risk for bleeding with garlic, ginkgo, ginger • Monitor for signs of bleeding • Monitor bleeding times • Monitor CBC and platelet count • Discontinue use 5-7 days before surgery

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00572-9/fulltextOld calculators use old studies and can over exaggerate the calculated effecthttps://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33970197/We know when to start medication but it is so hard to prospectively know when to stop medication like anticoagulationhttps://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34074830/2 Kiwi a day will increase your bowel movementshttps://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34100866/We want to believe routine checkups work but realistically they don't work for patient oriented outcomes--but they make people 'feel good'-- what we do isn't always the doing, it's just being therehttps://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)01063-1/fulltextDAPT following a stent-- but then just maybe we should stay with plavix and not aspirin

Dr. Ebell and Dr. Wilkes discuss the POEM titled ' DAPT with aspirin plus clopidogrel for 30 days is the best option after minor stroke or TIA '

The comparison of Clopidogrel and Aspirin monotherapy after PCI (HOST-EXAM trial)